September 29, 2020 • 29 mins
It's The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob discuss why Lamar Jackson tends to struggle so much against the Kansas City Chiefs, and former NBA 6th Man of the Year swings by to explain why he thinks LeBron James is the best all-around player in NBA history. Plus, the Odd Couple Callers deliver another award-winning edition of Trash Talk.
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R Party. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right,
it is the Odd Couple, Chris and Rob. And of
course this is a what Rob? What day? Is this
trash talking? Junesday? That's right. You'll be able to call
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in and about fifteen twenty minutes and you could trash
anyone or anything in the world of sports. You got
about thirty to forty seconds, So kid, take into that
time frame. But but do it well, comes strong, come hard.
That's how we do here on The Eye Couple, Rob,
we talked about Pat Mahomes. Obviously, Lamar Jackson said something
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that a lot of people have been making a big
deal out of. After the game, a reporter was asking
him a question about, you know, just the Chiefs, who
who he's owing three against. He's twenty one and one
against every other team in the league, but owe and
three against the Chiefs and Lamar himself. The reporter didn't
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use this word, but Lamar throughout the word kryptonite. There
are kryptonite. Um, what a lot of people are, you know,
jumping on him for that or just making a big
deal out of it. What were your thoughts on that.
I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
Used the term to haven't been able to beat him,
and until they do, people are always gonna make them
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second tier. So you know, maybe maybe you didn't win
this game and you haven't won in the past. If
they beat him in a big playoff game, then they'll
they will have slaved their cryptonite and we'll be able
to move past it. So I think, I don't. I
just think that on a night like that, it wasn't
like it was nip and talk and they had a
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bad break or whatever. They lost. They were down big. Yeah,
they were down big. So at this point, considering that
they had one fourteen in a row and it was
child's play against everybody else so far, Chris, we talked
about it, right, the first couple of games was like,
this is ridiculous. It's so easy, you know, very little stress.
So the first big game of the year, they played
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poorly and they got beat um. So I didn't have
a major problem with what he said. I don't. I
don't know about you well as a guy, they picked
the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I gotta be honest.
I would like to come here and be like Lamar
doesn't believe. See he says, there there Crypto Nite, they
can't beat them. He knows it, like and some guys
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took that approach. But I looking at the press conference
and the way he said it, I don't think that
would be fair. I don't think that would be the
correct interpretation. Now. Maybe I don't know what was in
his mind, but looking at his body language, the way
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he said it, he kind of chuckled when he said it.
I don't think he I didn't get the impression that
he just was defeated, you know, like we can't beat
this team. They're better than us, they're too good. I
think he was just you know that the reporter was
talking like, hey, they've beaten you three straight times. They
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obviously had their way with you last night. You know
any throughout you know our Crypto Nite. You know, I
don't I would love to come up here and say
he knows they can't beat them, but I just don't
think that that would be the proper interpretation of what
he's saying. But I will say this, Rob, there's issues there.
Like Lamar dominates everyone else. I mean it is you.
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You know Rob every Sunday he's having a huge game
running and throwing. He was completing like over seventy percent
of his passes going into this game. And yet when
it comes to the Chiefs, they got no answers last year.
I mean, this should have beating them three straight. Last
year they the score was thirty three twenty eight. So
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people might look at the final score and say, oh,
that wasn't that bad. It was fairly closed. No, the
Chiefs rupp thirty to thirteen with two minutes left in
the third quarter. And as they've kind of done in
their losses Rob ridicularly the playoffs. You know, they get
down big the Bravens and then they kind of score
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a couple of touchdowns or whatever to make it look
like it was spectable, but they can't catch the team.
It's generally over and there's something there. I tell you what.
The Chiefs defense surprised me. And I know the defense
was probably better than most people gave them credit for.
But I thought that the Ravens defense, and you know,
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as you said, I did pick the Ravens to win.
It doesn't mean I think they're a better team, but
I thought last night they get to win at home,
and you know, it meant more to them because the
Chiefs had beaten them too straight. But I thought that
the Ravens defense would would shine and really play well
and do a good job against my homes. And I
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thought that the Chiefs defense would have their hands full
with Jackson. But it was the exact opposite. I mean,
Lamar Jackson through for ninety seven yards and obviously the
Chiefs were just toying with that great Ravens defense. So
I think there's something there. I don't think Lamar doesn't
believe in all that. I don't think he's got mental
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problems when it comes to dealing with the Chiefs, But
I do think that they kind of have the Ravens
number and when they meet, if they meet in the playoffs, um,
there's gonna be a little bit of an advantage there,
just because you sock them around for three straight games. Yeah,
I don't know. We'll see as a season progresses. And
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what happens and what plays out, but that might be
their ultimate moment to finally be able to do something
like that, you know, is the you know, it's like
the NBA we used to see all the time. Remember
the Pistons couldn't get past the Celtics and the Bulls
couldn't get past the Pistons. You know what I mean, Chris,
we could go through that and then eventually you break
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through and maybe that's what they need. Maybe that's that's
where they'll get and that'll be the time that they
finally are able to slay them and take their place
and move forward. So we'll see. I mean, obviously you're
not gonna win every game. That won fourteen in a row.
Had they won, I would have been really like, wow, Okay,
fifteen in a row and they beat the Chiefs, you
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would have had to look at them in awe. Almost
that they almost have a full snow. I'm talking about
the Chiefs and a No, I'm talking about winning the Ravens.
I'm talking about winnings nothing. Nah nah the d I disagree.
It's hard to do that. It's hard to do that.
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It's hard to do that in the NFL. To win. Everyone.
That's harder win a super Bowl. No, it's it's harder
to win fourteen game. Anybody can win one game. Yeah, No,
I'm talking about a super Bowl game. One game. I'm
talking about one game, two or three. No, I'm talking
about winning the super Bowl three. But you don't just
wake up. Wow, that's not I'm just saying how hard
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it is game. If it was that hard, then a
lot of team would win fourteen and fifteen in a row.
And I'm talking about great teams in the Super Bowls. No,
it's how hard to win a lot of games. That's
just my opinion. I think it tastes more to win.
It's not row ridiculous, that's that's your point of No,
I've seen I've seen Trent Dilford win a Super I've
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seen Trent Dilford win a Super Bowl. I've seen fits
I said. I said, I saw Brad Johnson win a
Super Bowl. And I know. But I'm telling you who
I saw win. You're gonna see here on national radio
and pooh pooh a super Bowl. That's not what I said. Now,
you're twisting my words. Man, That's not what I said.
Brajo and Trent Dial that belittles the Super Bowl. No,
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I'm just saying, but don't act as if winning that
many games in a row it's hard. In this league,
it's hard. It's a it's a rarity league. It's hard
to win every week. That's my only It's harder to
win as hard to than point. You could get high
and win two games and win a super Bowl. That's
the Patriots recipe. Yes, to win three games in a
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row is not hard, Chris, three games in a row
is not hard. The Patriots get a buy, they win
two games, and then they win a super Bowl? And
ain't that hards? How many Patsis didn't get that hard
beat in those fourteen games? Not many. I can't believe
that you're gonna sit here and say it's harder to
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win some regular season games. That's not what. And you
know what, they didn't even find your dad what I said,
you did. That's not what I said, Chris. They didn't
even win a playoff games, not what. That's not what
I said. My point was, no, Chris, do not twist
my words. He stopping, stop it to get your narrative across. Okay,
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we get it. That did you love Patrick? My whole
and they can't. Just did he chase? My god, do
you sound like a freaking fan boy stopping? Okay? When
they won a super Bowl? And when he gonna get
a ridiculous crass what you sound like a win? Fourth season?
Godd did the summer it already? My god? Oh day everything,
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Oh my god. Nobody's ever thrown a pall like that.
No one's ever thrown fifty taught down, nobody ever had
an admity weapon, nobody ever had the greatest goat you
ever coached, nobody ever had who came from a biracial family.
Nobody else. Stop it, Chris, You come your loss badly
when you're going to Nobody ever had a supporting cast
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like this. Never said that, nobody ever had a coaching
staff like this, never said that nobody ever had a
biracial family. Really, that's what you had to resort to.
Come on, man, you know admitted fourteen season regular season
games is great. It's impressive. I'm not denying that, But
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you said it was more impressive than winning a super Bowl.
That's what's ridiculous. Come on, you know that you wish
you could take it back. I'm not gonna hold it
against you. It's just a wrong statement. I don't care
if you win thirty regular season games straight. If you
don't win the Super Bowl, it means nothing. You always
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are killing the Buffalo Bills. They got the four straight
Super Bowls, they didn't win it, and you don't give
them any credit. But you're gonna get Baltimore credit for
winning fourteen straight regular season games and not winning a
playoff game during that stretch. Come on, man, come on,
that's all I'm saying. My point was you were gonna
say if Baltimore won a fifteenth straight game, you'd had
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to give them props. Well, I'm saying Heck, Kansas City
won a Super Bowl and then blasted the second best
team in the AFC, and you can't give them props.
Come on, let's just keep it real. Let's keep an objective.
This ain't about fandom. Sure, I think Patrick Mallows is great.
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I picked the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl, so
we glow, we go back and forth when they win,
we take bragging rights and all that. But this ain't
about fandom. And Pat Ramon's falls on his face. I'll
be the first to say it. You won't say that
about Aaron Rodgers. You won't say that about Wincey Gonna
win a game again, all right? Eight seven seven ninety
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nine on Fox A seven seven nine ninety six sixty
three sixty nine. We got our man, former NBA six
Man of the Year, Eddie Johnson coming up next. He
says on Twitter that Lebron is the best all around
player he's ever seen. Now he played in the Michael Jordania,
so we're gonna ask him about that. But first be
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eight hundred nine four seven Auto. The only hard part
is figuring out which way is easier. Again, we got
Eddie Johnson, the former NBA sixth Man of the Year,
coming up serious XM NBA radio host Rob Did you
see his tweet uh where he called Lebron the best
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all around player ever? No, I did not. But I
don't know what that means. Either you're the best player
or you're not. I mean, is that couching? Is that?
Is that? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know why guys do that.
Just say it is and then let people tell you
that they think it's Michael Jordan. I mean when we
had uh Channing Fries the same thing. Scared you put
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him on the carpet, you like, called him on the carpet.
I don't believe. I don't believe in that. I just
don't either call a guy what does that mean? You
know what I mean, if you're the best best two
way player, why do you why do you have to
Why do you have to put that in there? He's
the best player or he's not the best player? That right?
What are you afraid of? I can't wait for that case. Well,
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I saw his tweet and you know, I like Eddie
and I think the last time we saw Okay, here
he is. Last time I was saying we saw him
was that the Michael Jordan Party All Star Weekend And uh,
he's a great guy. I love going back and forth
with him. Formers NBA sixth Man of the Year series
x M NBA Radio host Eddie Johns and Eddie to
the couple. Brother. Yeah, y'all, y'all, y'all are an on
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couple and we are that we will let me. But
but I think y'all getting ready to try to pound
on me. And I'm good, I'm ready. You better be ready,
be ready. So all right, So Eddie, let's let's get
right to it. Then. All right, So, so here's what
what prompted me to call you, And I'm glad he
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did because it's great to have you on the show.
But Mike Breen made this statement, I don't know if
you can find a more complete player who's ever played
in the NBA. He was talking about Lebron and you
retweeted that and saying, real talk best all around ever. Now,
Robb and I are trying to figure out what do
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you mean best all around? That mean? We think that's
couching it. You could easily say, well, Michael Jordan's the
best ever, Lebron's the best all around every No, we think, look,
what is the best all around? You should just be
the best player. Why is it he the best player?
So what do you mean? Is he the best? Period
to go? Okay, here's here's been my argument over the
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last few years. And I'm a I'm a preface this
by saying M Jay's a friend, Okay, but I'm honest.
I've always been honest. I think if you all interviewed
me doing my career, I told you what was on
my mind. I don't circumvent anything. I want you to
just reflect back on my career and get you all
to understand how I view things, Okay, because we all
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look at people differently with our eyes our land. Right, Okay,
Eddie Johnson, how did Eddie Johnson persevere in the NBA? Well,
he played with guys like Kevin Johnson. He played with
guys like Gary Payton. He played with guys leaving like
a muggsy Bowls Larry Drew. What did Eddie love about them?
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Reggie thieves? Because they was They got Eddie the ball,
they kept me in balls. I felt like I was
a part of the team. So when I listed my
greatest ever, right, magic is always number one for me,
always because playing with Magic he made the game beautiful.
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All everybody had something in it. I mean just wasn't
watching him. It was like him involving everybody. That was
the beautiful part of magic. Now when you fast forward
into the day's game, that's Lebron. Look if I'm looking
at a player that I want to play with that
I think is unbelievable, it is him. If I wanted
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to play with a guy where I can just sit
over there in the popcorn and watch him pick thirty
five shots, that's mj. He's the greatest score ever, without
a doubt. Hen down Edie, Eddie, I think I think
you're mischaracter categorizing Michael Jordan as if nobody else did
anything like Steve Kerr or Paxson, where he told those guys,
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hold on, Eddie, I'll let you go to be ready.
I'm gonna pass you the ball. Be ready because the
players come in real way. So don't act like don't no,
no no, don't act like Michael never got anybody else involved.
And you know what, I'd rather Michael Jordan have the
ball in his hand then pass up a shot to
give it to somebody else who you know is better
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than him. And Eddie, Michael Jordan for all of nom
just let me just finish mine and then I'll let
you come back. I just it ain't like Michael just
won championships. He played both ends of the floor. He
also made players better and pushed them. I just went
when people trying to use that as a knock against
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Michael Jordan's I think that's I think it's wrong. I
really do. He was more than just that. Well, I'm
not saying he wasn't. I didn't say he was one dimensional.
I say, if you want to list guys as like
in what they were great at, well you kind of
saying it just took thirty five shots a game. And no. No, look, look,
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I think Clay Thompson is better coming off screen shooting
the ball. But I say Steph Curry is the best ever.
All Right. All I'm saying to you is this, I'm saying, No,
Michael did a lot of stuff. I'm not saying that.
But when when when Mike Breen says he's the best
all around? Look at the number? Looks what Here's what
I say, though, Okay, best all around? Okay, but I
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I say this because people think it's just rings. It now,
rings is part of the right. Jordan didn't tell me
a weakness because we thought that. I'm using your phrase
all around or Jordan, there's nothing I can't point to
a weakness in this game Lebron again all around, I
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can point to some weaknesses. One, how about he's not
a good free throw shoot. He's a poor free throw shooter,
or meet no grad best too. He doesn't really have
a go to shot or move. His goal to is
either get it all the way to the rim and
lay it in or shoot along three. Because he doesn't
have that mid range pull up that you know it
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is so important You lived off that. Jordan lived off,
that Kawhi lives off that Lebron doesn't have. That. Lebron
doesn't fit as well into a system as he just
becomes the system, and that kind of affords his gods
to a diet to him. So I think those are
weaknesses that when somebody says all around game, I say,
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wait a minute, Like, what was Jordan's weakness? What could
not Jordan LeBris a better passer, will wait court vision,
all that, but what else? I mean, He's bigger than Jordan,
so he gets a few more rebounds. But Jordan no
weaknesses as far as I could tell, did he He
had no weaknesses as an individual player. Of course, guys,
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I'm not saying that to you. I preface this whole
conversation about my lens and I'm talking about Steve. I'm
talking about what twelve guys with twelve guys? When you
lift twelve guys? Because you remember what I told you
we first started the argument, who's my best player ever?
Magic guying? Did he have weaknesses? Oh? Yes he did?
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But what he did he missed it? Everybody you know Magic,
He wasn't better than Jordan. James Worthy's my boy. What
happens when Magic left him? What happened to hold it?
By the way, by the way, by the way, who
got drafted third in the draft out of Michigan State
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next to Magic? How love did he last? That's my point.
My point is, but hey, lift they lift. Let me
say this, they list guys up to a level that
that right there, that gives them a high number. Look
Michael Jordan's individually one game, I mean he had. Look,
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he's the most relentless, maniacal guy I have ever met.
Trust me, I played, I competed against this guy for
most of his career. I'm not hating on him. Jake.
What when I when I make it? When I just
like what people say? What it's no insult to Lebron
to say where he's second, well to me, in my mind,
it's no insults to him. Jay the same he second,
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because I both look at him the same way. But
what I'm saying to you is that if you had
a choice, if you want to enhance your game, and
you wanted a chance to get paid, who you playing with?
Chris Lazar, with Michael Jordan and Edie? Edie, here's what
I hear. I think, here's what I'll say. And I
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wouldn't even want Lebron on the pre throw line to
win a championship. I wouldn't even want him getting paid, Eddie.
How about you're not getting how about this? How about this, Eddie?
If if I'm a role Eddie, how about this? If
I'm a spot up shooter right who can't create my
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own shot, or I'm a post guy that can't get
my own stuff. Yes, I'd rather have Lebron because he's
gonna create shots for me. But what about that third star?
Do you think it helped Chris Bosh? I mean, Chris
Bosh won, but or Kevin leg you he became a player, Yes,
he became obscure. All right, Hey, Eddie, we gotta we
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gotta bounce. We gotta bounce. We agree, we'll have We'll
do this again. Appreciated. I felt like Lebron today. I
got that's all right, that's what we do on the couple.
We appreciate Jazz brother. We love you man, Thanks a lot.
All right, gods tune? All right, my man piece. All right,
you know what time it is. This is why Rob
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was getting rid of Eddie. It's trash talking Tuesday's right,
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All right, let's get right into it. Wastes no time.
It is time for trash talking Tuesday. Don't you talking
about trash talking Tuesday? It's I don't know whether to
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smile AT's you kick a field? Oh man? All right,
let's get to it. All right, let's kick it off
with Hank in Virginia. You're on the odd couple Fox
Sports Radio. Who are you trashing? Hank Man? Hank it's
great to be on with you. Guys are awesome. I'm
trashing Dak Prescott man. This is second game he's killed
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the Cowboys team. And here's what I'm talking about. You
want to say that the defense has been bad, I
don't know that they allowed twenty points against the Rams
and Dak was one for seven for eleven dollars in
the second half. It sounds like a losing quarterback to me.
Then you go into Seattle, get the ball with three
time out, and remember people questioning why mccarthon just to
stop the clock and preserve some time. Why because Dad
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didn't need that much time to turn the ball over
and give Seattle the points and then him he needed
one play to sum on the first play of the
second half and put the Cowboys down by fourteen points.
So look, Cowboys fans who were backing Deck and that
then like you know, he's all world and slinging the
ball all over the field. That might be great, but
he is not good in the hutch. And the previous
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regime got hammered for every game that the Cowboys lost.
It's trying to start putting the thing back a little
bit more. All right, there we go, Max and Georgia.
You're in the couple of Fox Sports rating, Who are
you trash and Max? Hey, guys, always a pleasure to
trash Lebron James, let me tell you, I'm getting sick
of this guy. I don't know how the NBA fans
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haven't gotten sick of this guy. It's the same movie
over and over again. The ratings are down for a reason.
We're tired of seeing this guy try to play the
hero and then fail at the end. This year, he's
facing the heat. It's the best chance we got. We
didn't see the Clippers go the Clippers. Let us down, Lebron.
The narrative is concrete. But let me just say this.
Let's stop acting like it's tough. You got in on this.
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You said you wanted to come back. Your team said
that we're gonna go home in August for the Milwaukee shooting,
but it didn't happen. You want to be here, you
want the chief title. Come on, Jimmy Butler, come on, Heat,
Let's do it. Turn the heat up, let's do it.
Let's go. Wow. All right, Tony in Los Angeles, you're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Tony, who
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you trashing. Hey, what's up? What's up? Chris? Hey, We're
gonna let my homes have you to day. You know
what I'm saying today, I'm gonna be objective and trash
my own Los Angeles charges Anthony Lynn, how dare you
hit your wagon? And Tyrod Taylor who Baltimore, Buffalo and
Cleveland kick to the curt he re steals the sign
Cam Newton. The only reason Tyler I didn't play was
because management hired doctor could work in who posted so
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many holes? And Tyrod Taylor's run as the x Y
technician at the hospital. Say, man, you're runs, but like
Stephen A. Smith poked it out, tied Rob, take your
boy to Ross or wherever you go and get him
a tight rocking Wow. All right, Tony A. Mire in Philly,
you're on the Oyd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. Mir
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who you trash? Better be trash and wins. No, no, no,
no no, I can't trust my boy. I'm trusting the
media and you guys for the coverage on my boiler
brun games. Lebron is the only player I've ever seen.
When he wins, he should have won, And when he loses,
he's not that good. And if he does win, people
still tear him down. He's not better than this guy's
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not better than that guy. He's not better than injured.
But when everybody else wins, no matter how they did it,
they could join the team. They blew a three one
league too, with three all the families. Oh, they bet
on Lebron or they can be injured depleted Warreson. Oh
my god, he's better Lebron. Everybody else wins, they build
him up. When Lebron wins, it doesn't matter. And just
fourteen days ago, the same people are Sandison cakewalk Literally
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we're saying that just the Clippers were gonna beat them,
and they had faith in the Clippers when it games
seven and beating the Lakers. Oh my goodness. It's just
a bunch of walking back every single year with this guy.
People want it. They said Portland's gonna take him seven, Stephen,
they said that, but he's gonna beat Miami at five.
Somebody makes sense of it. Ron, Please, Wow, that's a
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good some truth to that, though. I'm I'm give a
mirror some props on them. Joseph and Indiana, you're in
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who are you
trashing on trashing the former king Lebron James, now known
as Chairman James. This man is not going to carry
the legacy of Kobe, Magic, Jack, Jerry West, all the
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great Lakers. This man's gonna be a death of the
NBA because the way he truths the media where you
think he's the next coming of Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan,
it's almost coach Michael Jordan. Michael Jordans coach Lebron James
is pure trash, my good trash. That's a little too
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far right, just a little bit wow, all right, well
for trash t wow. Yeah, I'm surprised some my people
didn't trash the Indians with all that pitch got robbed.
I picked Indians to win. It was a bad day
for me baseball wise. No. I picked the Indians and
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I picked the with the freaking Twins to get to
the I picked the Twins too, not to get to
the World Series, but to win this series. I did. Dude,
I didn't think they've lost the row now, my god,
I just and you think, you know, obviously these guys
weren't around for those losses, but you would think so. Yeah.
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I think the way they lost to day with that
error bases loaded wise, so that that will make you
start thinking something. This is thing real, like you know
what I mean like. And the other part is the
Yankee Bats. They're healthy again, Chris, and they're streaky so
they might be in one of those good streaks now,
so they could be uh in for something big. All right,
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R Party. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right,
it is the Odd Couple, Chris and Rob. And of
course this is a what Rob? What day? Is this
trash talking? Junesday? That's right. You'll be able to call
(00:50):
in and about fifteen twenty minutes and you could trash
anyone or anything in the world of sports. You got
about thirty to forty seconds, So kid, take into that
time frame. But but do it well, comes strong, come hard.
That's how we do here on The Eye Couple, Rob,
we talked about Pat Mahomes. Obviously, Lamar Jackson said something
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that a lot of people have been making a big
deal out of. After the game, a reporter was asking
him a question about, you know, just the Chiefs, who
who he's owing three against. He's twenty one and one
against every other team in the league, but owe and
three against the Chiefs and Lamar himself. The reporter didn't
(01:39):
use this word, but Lamar throughout the word kryptonite. There
are kryptonite. Um, what a lot of people are, you know,
jumping on him for that or just making a big
deal out of it. What were your thoughts on that.
I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
Used the term to haven't been able to beat him,
and until they do, people are always gonna make them
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second tier. So you know, maybe maybe you didn't win
this game and you haven't won in the past. If
they beat him in a big playoff game, then they'll
they will have slaved their cryptonite and we'll be able
to move past it. So I think, I don't. I
just think that on a night like that, it wasn't
like it was nip and talk and they had a
(02:22):
bad break or whatever. They lost. They were down big. Yeah,
they were down big. So at this point, considering that
they had one fourteen in a row and it was
child's play against everybody else so far, Chris, we talked
about it, right, the first couple of games was like,
this is ridiculous. It's so easy, you know, very little stress.
So the first big game of the year, they played
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poorly and they got beat um. So I didn't have
a major problem with what he said. I don't. I
don't know about you well as a guy, they picked
the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I gotta be honest.
I would like to come here and be like Lamar
doesn't believe. See he says, there there Crypto Nite, they
can't beat them. He knows it, like and some guys
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took that approach. But I looking at the press conference
and the way he said it, I don't think that
would be fair. I don't think that would be the
correct interpretation. Now. Maybe I don't know what was in
his mind, but looking at his body language, the way
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he said it, he kind of chuckled when he said it.
I don't think he I didn't get the impression that
he just was defeated, you know, like we can't beat
this team. They're better than us, they're too good. I
think he was just you know that the reporter was
talking like, hey, they've beaten you three straight times. They
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obviously had their way with you last night. You know
any throughout you know our Crypto Nite. You know, I
don't I would love to come up here and say
he knows they can't beat them, but I just don't
think that that would be the proper interpretation of what
he's saying. But I will say this, Rob, there's issues there.
Like Lamar dominates everyone else. I mean it is you.
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You know Rob every Sunday he's having a huge game
running and throwing. He was completing like over seventy percent
of his passes going into this game. And yet when
it comes to the Chiefs, they got no answers last year.
I mean, this should have beating them three straight. Last
year they the score was thirty three twenty eight. So
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people might look at the final score and say, oh,
that wasn't that bad. It was fairly closed. No, the
Chiefs rupp thirty to thirteen with two minutes left in
the third quarter. And as they've kind of done in
their losses Rob ridicularly the playoffs. You know, they get
down big the Bravens and then they kind of score
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a couple of touchdowns or whatever to make it look
like it was spectable, but they can't catch the team.
It's generally over and there's something there. I tell you what.
The Chiefs defense surprised me. And I know the defense
was probably better than most people gave them credit for.
But I thought that the Ravens defense, and you know,
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as you said, I did pick the Ravens to win.
It doesn't mean I think they're a better team, but
I thought last night they get to win at home,
and you know, it meant more to them because the
Chiefs had beaten them too straight. But I thought that
the Ravens defense would would shine and really play well
and do a good job against my homes. And I
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thought that the Chiefs defense would have their hands full
with Jackson. But it was the exact opposite. I mean,
Lamar Jackson through for ninety seven yards and obviously the
Chiefs were just toying with that great Ravens defense. So
I think there's something there. I don't think Lamar doesn't
believe in all that. I don't think he's got mental
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problems when it comes to dealing with the Chiefs, But
I do think that they kind of have the Ravens
number and when they meet, if they meet in the playoffs, um,
there's gonna be a little bit of an advantage there,
just because you sock them around for three straight games. Yeah,
I don't know. We'll see as a season progresses. And
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what happens and what plays out, but that might be
their ultimate moment to finally be able to do something
like that, you know, is the you know, it's like
the NBA we used to see all the time. Remember
the Pistons couldn't get past the Celtics and the Bulls
couldn't get past the Pistons. You know what I mean, Chris,
we could go through that and then eventually you break
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through and maybe that's what they need. Maybe that's that's
where they'll get and that'll be the time that they
finally are able to slay them and take their place
and move forward. So we'll see. I mean, obviously you're
not gonna win every game. That won fourteen in a row.
Had they won, I would have been really like, wow, Okay,
fifteen in a row and they beat the Chiefs, you
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would have had to look at them in awe. Almost
that they almost have a full snow. I'm talking about
the Chiefs and a No, I'm talking about winning the Ravens.
I'm talking about winnings nothing. Nah nah the d I disagree.
It's hard to do that. It's hard to do that.
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It's hard to do that in the NFL. To win. Everyone.
That's harder win a super Bowl. No, it's it's harder
to win fourteen game. Anybody can win one game. Yeah, No,
I'm talking about a super Bowl game. One game. I'm
talking about one game, two or three. No, I'm talking
about winning the super Bowl three. But you don't just
wake up. Wow, that's not I'm just saying how hard
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it is game. If it was that hard, then a
lot of team would win fourteen and fifteen in a row.
And I'm talking about great teams in the Super Bowls. No,
it's how hard to win a lot of games. That's
just my opinion. I think it tastes more to win.
It's not row ridiculous, that's that's your point of No,
I've seen I've seen Trent Dilford win a Super I've
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seen Trent Dilford win a Super Bowl. I've seen fits
I said. I said, I saw Brad Johnson win a
Super Bowl. And I know. But I'm telling you who
I saw win. You're gonna see here on national radio
and pooh pooh a super Bowl. That's not what I said. Now,
you're twisting my words. Man, That's not what I said.
Brajo and Trent Dial that belittles the Super Bowl. No,
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I'm just saying, but don't act as if winning that
many games in a row it's hard. In this league,
it's hard. It's a it's a rarity league. It's hard
to win every week. That's my only It's harder to
win as hard to than point. You could get high
and win two games and win a super Bowl. That's
the Patriots recipe. Yes, to win three games in a
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row is not hard, Chris, three games in a row
is not hard. The Patriots get a buy, they win
two games, and then they win a super Bowl? And
ain't that hards? How many Patsis didn't get that hard
beat in those fourteen games? Not many. I can't believe
that you're gonna sit here and say it's harder to
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win some regular season games. That's not what. And you
know what, they didn't even find your dad what I said,
you did. That's not what I said, Chris. They didn't
even win a playoff games, not what. That's not what
I said. My point was, no, Chris, do not twist
my words. He stopping, stop it to get your narrative across. Okay,
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we get it. That did you love Patrick? My whole
and they can't. Just did he chase? My god, do
you sound like a freaking fan boy stopping? Okay? When
they won a super Bowl? And when he gonna get
a ridiculous crass what you sound like a win? Fourth season?
Godd did the summer it already? My god? Oh day everything,
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Oh my god. Nobody's ever thrown a pall like that.
No one's ever thrown fifty taught down, nobody ever had
an admity weapon, nobody ever had the greatest goat you
ever coached, nobody ever had who came from a biracial family.
Nobody else. Stop it, Chris, You come your loss badly
when you're going to Nobody ever had a supporting cast
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like this. Never said that, nobody ever had a coaching
staff like this, never said that nobody ever had a
biracial family. Really, that's what you had to resort to.
Come on, man, you know admitted fourteen season regular season
games is great. It's impressive. I'm not denying that, But
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you said it was more impressive than winning a super Bowl.
That's what's ridiculous. Come on, you know that you wish
you could take it back. I'm not gonna hold it
against you. It's just a wrong statement. I don't care
if you win thirty regular season games straight. If you
don't win the Super Bowl, it means nothing. You always
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are killing the Buffalo Bills. They got the four straight
Super Bowls, they didn't win it, and you don't give
them any credit. But you're gonna get Baltimore credit for
winning fourteen straight regular season games and not winning a
playoff game during that stretch. Come on, man, come on,
that's all I'm saying. My point was you were gonna
say if Baltimore won a fifteenth straight game, you'd had
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to give them props. Well, I'm saying Heck, Kansas City
won a Super Bowl and then blasted the second best
team in the AFC, and you can't give them props.
Come on, let's just keep it real. Let's keep an objective.
This ain't about fandom. Sure, I think Patrick Mallows is great.
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I picked the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl, so
we glow, we go back and forth when they win,
we take bragging rights and all that. But this ain't
about fandom. And Pat Ramon's falls on his face. I'll
be the first to say it. You won't say that
about Aaron Rodgers. You won't say that about Wincey Gonna
win a game again, all right? Eight seven seven ninety
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nine on Fox A seven seven nine ninety six sixty
three sixty nine. We got our man, former NBA six
Man of the Year, Eddie Johnson coming up next. He
says on Twitter that Lebron is the best all around
player he's ever seen. Now he played in the Michael Jordania,
so we're gonna ask him about that. But first be
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eight hundred nine four seven Auto. The only hard part
is figuring out which way is easier. Again, we got
Eddie Johnson, the former NBA sixth Man of the Year,
coming up serious XM NBA radio host Rob Did you
see his tweet uh where he called Lebron the best
(13:20):
all around player ever? No, I did not. But I
don't know what that means. Either you're the best player
or you're not. I mean, is that couching? Is that?
Is that? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know why guys do that.
Just say it is and then let people tell you
that they think it's Michael Jordan. I mean when we
had uh Channing Fries the same thing. Scared you put
(13:48):
him on the carpet, you like, called him on the carpet.
I don't believe. I don't believe in that. I just
don't either call a guy what does that mean? You
know what I mean, if you're the best best two
way player, why do you why do you have to
Why do you have to put that in there? He's
the best player or he's not the best player? That right?
What are you afraid of? I can't wait for that case. Well,
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I saw his tweet and you know, I like Eddie
and I think the last time we saw Okay, here
he is. Last time I was saying we saw him
was that the Michael Jordan Party All Star Weekend And uh,
he's a great guy. I love going back and forth
with him. Formers NBA sixth Man of the Year series
x M NBA Radio host Eddie Johns and Eddie to
the couple. Brother. Yeah, y'all, y'all, y'all are an on
(14:35):
couple and we are that we will let me. But
but I think y'all getting ready to try to pound
on me. And I'm good, I'm ready. You better be ready,
be ready. So all right, So Eddie, let's let's get
right to it. Then. All right, So, so here's what
what prompted me to call you, And I'm glad he
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did because it's great to have you on the show.
But Mike Breen made this statement, I don't know if
you can find a more complete player who's ever played
in the NBA. He was talking about Lebron and you
retweeted that and saying, real talk best all around ever. Now,
Robb and I are trying to figure out what do
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you mean best all around? That mean? We think that's
couching it. You could easily say, well, Michael Jordan's the
best ever, Lebron's the best all around every No, we think, look,
what is the best all around? You should just be
the best player. Why is it he the best player?
So what do you mean? Is he the best? Period
to go? Okay, here's here's been my argument over the
(15:40):
last few years. And I'm a I'm a preface this
by saying M Jay's a friend, Okay, but I'm honest.
I've always been honest. I think if you all interviewed
me doing my career, I told you what was on
my mind. I don't circumvent anything. I want you to
just reflect back on my career and get you all
to understand how I view things, Okay, because we all
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look at people differently with our eyes our land. Right, Okay,
Eddie Johnson, how did Eddie Johnson persevere in the NBA? Well,
he played with guys like Kevin Johnson. He played with
guys like Gary Payton. He played with guys leaving like
a muggsy Bowls Larry Drew. What did Eddie love about them?
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Reggie thieves? Because they was They got Eddie the ball,
they kept me in balls. I felt like I was
a part of the team. So when I listed my
greatest ever, right, magic is always number one for me,
always because playing with Magic he made the game beautiful.
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All everybody had something in it. I mean just wasn't
watching him. It was like him involving everybody. That was
the beautiful part of magic. Now when you fast forward
into the day's game, that's Lebron. Look if I'm looking
at a player that I want to play with that
I think is unbelievable, it is him. If I wanted
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to play with a guy where I can just sit
over there in the popcorn and watch him pick thirty
five shots, that's mj. He's the greatest score ever, without
a doubt. Hen down Edie, Eddie, I think I think
you're mischaracter categorizing Michael Jordan as if nobody else did
anything like Steve Kerr or Paxson, where he told those guys,
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hold on, Eddie, I'll let you go to be ready.
I'm gonna pass you the ball. Be ready because the
players come in real way. So don't act like don't no,
no no, don't act like Michael never got anybody else involved.
And you know what, I'd rather Michael Jordan have the
ball in his hand then pass up a shot to
give it to somebody else who you know is better
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than him. And Eddie, Michael Jordan for all of nom
just let me just finish mine and then I'll let
you come back. I just it ain't like Michael just
won championships. He played both ends of the floor. He
also made players better and pushed them. I just went
when people trying to use that as a knock against
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Michael Jordan's I think that's I think it's wrong. I
really do. He was more than just that. Well, I'm
not saying he wasn't. I didn't say he was one dimensional.
I say, if you want to list guys as like
in what they were great at, well you kind of
saying it just took thirty five shots a game. And no. No, look, look,
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I think Clay Thompson is better coming off screen shooting
the ball. But I say Steph Curry is the best ever.
All Right. All I'm saying to you is this, I'm saying, No,
Michael did a lot of stuff. I'm not saying that.
But when when when Mike Breen says he's the best
all around? Look at the number? Looks what Here's what
I say, though, Okay, best all around? Okay, but I
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I say this because people think it's just rings. It now,
rings is part of the right. Jordan didn't tell me
a weakness because we thought that. I'm using your phrase
all around or Jordan, there's nothing I can't point to
a weakness in this game Lebron again all around, I
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can point to some weaknesses. One, how about he's not
a good free throw shoot. He's a poor free throw shooter,
or meet no grad best too. He doesn't really have
a go to shot or move. His goal to is
either get it all the way to the rim and
lay it in or shoot along three. Because he doesn't
have that mid range pull up that you know it
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is so important You lived off that. Jordan lived off,
that Kawhi lives off that Lebron doesn't have. That. Lebron
doesn't fit as well into a system as he just
becomes the system, and that kind of affords his gods
to a diet to him. So I think those are
weaknesses that when somebody says all around game, I say,
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wait a minute, Like, what was Jordan's weakness? What could
not Jordan LeBris a better passer, will wait court vision,
all that, but what else? I mean, He's bigger than Jordan,
so he gets a few more rebounds. But Jordan no
weaknesses as far as I could tell, did he He
had no weaknesses as an individual player. Of course, guys,
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I'm not saying that to you. I preface this whole
conversation about my lens and I'm talking about Steve. I'm
talking about what twelve guys with twelve guys? When you
lift twelve guys? Because you remember what I told you
we first started the argument, who's my best player ever?
Magic guying? Did he have weaknesses? Oh? Yes he did?
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But what he did he missed it? Everybody you know Magic,
He wasn't better than Jordan. James Worthy's my boy. What
happens when Magic left him? What happened to hold it?
By the way, by the way, by the way, who
got drafted third in the draft out of Michigan State
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next to Magic? How love did he last? That's my point.
My point is, but hey, lift they lift. Let me
say this, they list guys up to a level that
that right there, that gives them a high number. Look
Michael Jordan's individually one game, I mean he had. Look,
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he's the most relentless, maniacal guy I have ever met.
Trust me, I played, I competed against this guy for
most of his career. I'm not hating on him. Jake.
What when I when I make it? When I just
like what people say? What it's no insult to Lebron
to say where he's second, well to me, in my mind,
it's no insults to him. Jay the same he second,
(21:52):
because I both look at him the same way. But
what I'm saying to you is that if you had
a choice, if you want to enhance your game, and
you wanted a chance to get paid, who you playing with?
Chris Lazar, with Michael Jordan and Edie? Edie, here's what
I hear. I think, here's what I'll say. And I
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wouldn't even want Lebron on the pre throw line to
win a championship. I wouldn't even want him getting paid, Eddie.
How about you're not getting how about this? How about this, Eddie?
If if I'm a role Eddie, how about this? If
I'm a spot up shooter right who can't create my
(22:34):
own shot, or I'm a post guy that can't get
my own stuff. Yes, I'd rather have Lebron because he's
gonna create shots for me. But what about that third star?
Do you think it helped Chris Bosh? I mean, Chris
Bosh won, but or Kevin leg you he became a player, Yes,
he became obscure. All right, Hey, Eddie, we gotta we
(22:56):
gotta bounce. We gotta bounce. We agree, we'll have We'll
do this again. Appreciated. I felt like Lebron today. I
got that's all right, that's what we do on the couple.
We appreciate Jazz brother. We love you man, Thanks a lot.
All right, gods tune? All right, my man piece. All right,
you know what time it is. This is why Rob
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was getting rid of Eddie. It's trash talking Tuesday's right,
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It is time for trash talking Tuesday. Don't you talking
about trash talking Tuesday? It's I don't know whether to
(23:58):
smile AT's you kick a field? Oh man? All right,
let's get to it. All right, let's kick it off
with Hank in Virginia. You're on the odd couple Fox
Sports Radio. Who are you trashing? Hank Man? Hank it's
great to be on with you. Guys are awesome. I'm
trashing Dak Prescott man. This is second game he's killed
(24:19):
the Cowboys team. And here's what I'm talking about. You
want to say that the defense has been bad, I
don't know that they allowed twenty points against the Rams
and Dak was one for seven for eleven dollars in
the second half. It sounds like a losing quarterback to me.
Then you go into Seattle, get the ball with three
time out, and remember people questioning why mccarthon just to
stop the clock and preserve some time. Why because Dad
(24:41):
didn't need that much time to turn the ball over
and give Seattle the points and then him he needed
one play to sum on the first play of the
second half and put the Cowboys down by fourteen points.
So look, Cowboys fans who were backing Deck and that
then like you know, he's all world and slinging the
ball all over the field. That might be great, but
he is not good in the hutch. And the previous
(25:01):
regime got hammered for every game that the Cowboys lost.
It's trying to start putting the thing back a little
bit more. All right, there we go, Max and Georgia.
You're in the couple of Fox Sports rating, Who are
you trash and Max? Hey, guys, always a pleasure to
trash Lebron James, let me tell you, I'm getting sick
of this guy. I don't know how the NBA fans
(25:22):
haven't gotten sick of this guy. It's the same movie
over and over again. The ratings are down for a reason.
We're tired of seeing this guy try to play the
hero and then fail at the end. This year, he's
facing the heat. It's the best chance we got. We
didn't see the Clippers go the Clippers. Let us down, Lebron.
The narrative is concrete. But let me just say this.
Let's stop acting like it's tough. You got in on this.
(25:44):
You said you wanted to come back. Your team said
that we're gonna go home in August for the Milwaukee shooting,
but it didn't happen. You want to be here, you
want the chief title. Come on, Jimmy Butler, come on, Heat,
Let's do it. Turn the heat up, let's do it.
Let's go. Wow. All right, Tony in Los Angeles, you're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Tony, who
(26:05):
you trashing. Hey, what's up? What's up? Chris? Hey, We're
gonna let my homes have you to day. You know
what I'm saying today, I'm gonna be objective and trash
my own Los Angeles charges Anthony Lynn, how dare you
hit your wagon? And Tyrod Taylor who Baltimore, Buffalo and
Cleveland kick to the curt he re steals the sign
Cam Newton. The only reason Tyler I didn't play was
because management hired doctor could work in who posted so
(26:28):
many holes? And Tyrod Taylor's run as the x Y
technician at the hospital. Say, man, you're runs, but like
Stephen A. Smith poked it out, tied Rob, take your
boy to Ross or wherever you go and get him
a tight rocking Wow. All right, Tony A. Mire in Philly,
you're on the Oyd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. Mir
(26:50):
who you trash? Better be trash and wins. No, no, no,
no no, I can't trust my boy. I'm trusting the
media and you guys for the coverage on my boiler
brun games. Lebron is the only player I've ever seen.
When he wins, he should have won, And when he loses,
he's not that good. And if he does win, people
still tear him down. He's not better than this guy's
(27:12):
not better than that guy. He's not better than injured.
But when everybody else wins, no matter how they did it,
they could join the team. They blew a three one
league too, with three all the families. Oh, they bet
on Lebron or they can be injured depleted Warreson. Oh
my god, he's better Lebron. Everybody else wins, they build
him up. When Lebron wins, it doesn't matter. And just
fourteen days ago, the same people are Sandison cakewalk Literally
(27:36):
we're saying that just the Clippers were gonna beat them,
and they had faith in the Clippers when it games
seven and beating the Lakers. Oh my goodness. It's just
a bunch of walking back every single year with this guy.
People want it. They said Portland's gonna take him seven, Stephen,
they said that, but he's gonna beat Miami at five.
Somebody makes sense of it. Ron, Please, Wow, that's a
(27:59):
good some truth to that, though. I'm I'm give a
mirror some props on them. Joseph and Indiana, you're in
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who are you
trashing on trashing the former king Lebron James, now known
as Chairman James. This man is not going to carry
the legacy of Kobe, Magic, Jack, Jerry West, all the
(28:22):
great Lakers. This man's gonna be a death of the
NBA because the way he truths the media where you
think he's the next coming of Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan,
it's almost coach Michael Jordan. Michael Jordans coach Lebron James
is pure trash, my good trash. That's a little too
(28:43):
far right, just a little bit wow, all right, well
for trash t wow. Yeah, I'm surprised some my people
didn't trash the Indians with all that pitch got robbed.
I picked Indians to win. It was a bad day
for me baseball wise. No. I picked the Indians and
(29:04):
I picked the with the freaking Twins to get to
the I picked the Twins too, not to get to
the World Series, but to win this series. I did. Dude,
I didn't think they've lost the row now, my god,
I just and you think, you know, obviously these guys
weren't around for those losses, but you would think so. Yeah.
(29:26):
I think the way they lost to day with that
error bases loaded wise, so that that will make you
start thinking something. This is thing real, like you know
what I mean like. And the other part is the
Yankee Bats. They're healthy again, Chris, and they're streaky so
they might be in one of those good streaks now,
so they could be uh in for something big. All right,
(29:47):
see you guys tomorrow. Pass
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