October 2, 2020 • 34 mins
It's The Best Of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio weekend host Ephraim Salaam is in for Rob, and the guys explain how LeBron James and Anthony Davis could evolve into the next Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, tell us why Dak Prescott has it backwards when he says he wants the Dallas Cowboys offense to remain explosive and pass-heavy, and take Kyrie Irving to task for throwing shade at LeBron James and then trying to blame the media afterwards.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Cup Off with Chris Rush and Rod Harker. Lebron James
spoke yesterday and he may have been making this comment
in reference to Kyrie Irving, his former teammate, who said
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some things yesterday about, you know, not trusting any of
his former teammates to take that last shot like he
now will do with Kevin Durant. We'll get into all
that later. Whatever sparked it, Lebron James talked about the
relationship on the court and off with him in a
d Anthony Davis. Here's what he said. We're not jealous
of each other. That is the absolute contrary of where
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we are, and we want the best seriously every single day,
both on and off the floor for one another. We're
not jealous of one another. You're aligning that will respect.
I think the sky's the limit, all right, So let
me do my due diligence, because we do have an
NBA Finals actually being played, whether it feels like that
or not. Lakers up one, ooh, I picked him in five.
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That may have been one game too many. Skip Bayliss
joked earlier after Game one. We're on undisputed together. He's
predicted now he changes prediction from Lakers in five to
Lakers in two, meaning that after tonight's games, both teams
tired of being in the bubble just say, you know what,
just just give the Lakers the championship. Let's go home.
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So I think this is over, especially because Bam ad
to Bayou arguably the Heat's best player. I mean, it's
probably Jimmy Butler certainly with the inspiration, but Bam is
huge for them All Star and then Goren Drajachus, their
quarterback on the floor, had a great year for them.
They're both out with injuries. So I know, sometimes you know,
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guys step up the opponent takes you lightly. But I
just feel like Lebron is so focused on this fourth ring,
which he knows is huge for him, that he's just
not even gonna let that happen. They might not blow
him out like they should, but the Lakers will win.
And I think this thing is over pretty quickly. But
so we had to say that just because it's Newsy.
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But what I want to ask, what I want to
say to you from A nine, get your thoughts. I
know you're a long time Lakers fan growing up in
southern Kyle. I believe if Lebron and Ad can keep
this attitude that Lebron says they have, and I believe
they have, then they could be the reverse version, almost
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a Zoro World version, if you If you remember that
from the Seinfeld shows of Magic and Kareem in Showtime,
of course, Magic was the younger point guard, ran everything.
Kareem was the older guy who Magic's brilliance help prolong
Kareem's career and him when he won his last championship
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at forty one. Believe it or not, in this situation,
it'd be the reverse the older player, Lebron the point guard,
and Ad becomes the man like Magic became the man
midway through Showtime, and you know, the big is the
younger guy, and they can win more tight, they can win.
They're gonna win this one. They have at least in
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my view, I'm not guaranteeing it. I'm just saying they
should at least be able to win one more and
maybe two, maybe more than one more. So. I but
I think Key is keeping this attitude. I want to
tell you a quick story about Magic and Kareem that
Magic told me that illustrates their attitude. You know, I
worked with Magic closely on the Old Network. We did
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the NBA Countdown show together, and we would just talk
between hits for hours, and one thing I came away
with feeling. Now, we all know Magic's got a healthy ego,
but one thing I came away understanding was when it
came to basketball. Now, obviously he wanted his props like
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every superstar does, but he was he really did not
care about stats. From all the talks we had, I
really came away from that feeling Magic was strictly about winning.
He didn't care if he score eight points as long
as they win. And he told me a story where
it right before the eighty six eighty seventh season when
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pat Riley came to him before the season and said, look,
we need you now to Kareem's getting older, we need
you to be our number one score scoring option. Going forward,
you gotta be the offense. You gotta look more to score.
And Magic said, did you talk to Cap about this
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Cap being a Kareem? And Riley said, yep, I talked
to him. It's all good. Magic said, all right, let's
let's me and you go talk to Kareem about this
right to make sure. And Magic was like, we don't
want any beef. We don't want any tension. I don't
want to be the number one option if it's gonna
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rub Kareem the wrong way, because that will hinder our
chances of winning the championship. And obviously they talked it out.
Kareem was cool with it. Magic led the team in
scoring for I think the first time in three years.
He ended up leading him I think three years in scoring,
but that was the first time he averaged a career
high twenty almost twenty four points a game. They won
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the next two championships. So my point is, if Lebrin
and Ad can have that relationship and ship from where
Lebron don't care that people are now will be saying
a D's the best on the team. AD might win
an MVP Award, not Lebron. Where if Lebron don't care
about that, and they they can win at least another title,
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if not more. Your thoughts, I agree with that sentiment. Now,
this was kareem aging Kareem Right, who's guy who just
quite was in hooking like it used to? Lebron James
currently is still playing at a level on par with
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his entire career, the spand of his career. First, first,
it's very close. First time really taking over the point
guard position. Although he has been ball dominant his entire career,
we get that, but now truly being a point guard,
and he leads the league and assists in You're seventeen. Right,
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at any moment, Lebron can get his shot, whether it
be at the basket, right, physically dominating an opponent who's
too small to guard him, are too slow to stay
in front of him. Right. He understands that about his game. Now,
That's why he said nothing on the basketball court surprises me, Right,
nothing scares me. Is nothing a team can do to
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me to make me worry. I've been through it and
seen it all right, So his understanding of that and
how unguardable his cohort is right the brow, Anthony Davis,
he understands that also is a mismatch. So moving forward,
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he can directly run the offense through Anthony Davis and
his skill set right, But Lebron James, because he is
ball dominant, he can still get his shot off. He'll
always be able to do that. So with him not
feeling like he has to carry the load of the game,
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Lebron James comes out of the game every game at
the six minute mark. He's gonna get his break because
you have Anthony Davis on the court and they can
run the offense through them. Now, on the topic of
them winning more than this one, we have to figure
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out what the ancillary pieces are going to be because
this was a hodgepodge of guys cut and pasted and
put together and all year that's been people's biggest knock
on the Lakers. They don't have a very deep team,
they don't have great shooters around Lebron and Anthony Davis.
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Now they've since you know, the last few games of
the playoffs, those guys who weren't necessarily First of all,
I'm still waiting for Danny Green to show up to
the playoffs, but anyway, well, he had two big three
two threes from Danny Green. That's not what they do
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is is two of those ancillary parts as you call it,
Kuzma uh uh, Danny Green, can Tavis Carwell, Poe Alex
Caruso two of the rondo. Two of them has to
show up fairly big, relatively big for them. You know.
It just has to be consistent per game, right, like
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we can be a different too, but two of them,
because you can't all the focus on the court every game,
every minute when Anthony Davis and Lebron on the court
are on those two, So anyone else, any of the
other three players are going to have wide open shots, period. Yes,
you have to be able to capitalize on that. And
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he from they're going to have next year. I do
believe Lebron probably and he may not win the finals MVP,
which is fine, But Lebron probably enters next season as
the best player in the world. Okay, but let me
ask you, this is top five or six. He just
made a statement. You said, Lebron's probably not going to
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win the FRON No, I said he may not. I
think it's very possible that he did. He won't win
the finals MVP. Right, So now you opened up a
whole another can of worms in terms of, well, what
does that mean about his legacy. Be sure to catch
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We just were talking about the Browns and are there
budding issues in that locker room with their receivers o
BJ and Jarvis Landry wanting the ball more having complained
about it. But as Ethan said, just the fact that
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it's a topic of conversation is not it's problematic. Let's
leave it at that. They've got a big game against
the Cowboys this weekend. And I'll tell you what. And
the Browns are two and one, the Cowboys one and two.
I from this is one of the games I'm most
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looking forward to this weekend. And interestingly, it kind of
includes two teams that I guess, for lack of a
better phrase, are searching for their identity. Now maybe the
Browns have found it and that they've been a running
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team for the first few weeks and they got these
two flamboyant receivers are well known receivers. One of them
is flamboyant in obj but they're better off running the ball.
And then you've got so where how are they gonna
deal with that tension, that dynamic. And then with the Cowboys,
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I mean, Dak Prescott is racking up stats as far
as yards, like he's Dan Marino. He's leading the league
in passing yards. They're leading the league in yards, and
now they're not leading them in points. They're eighth in
points per game at twenty nine, which I think is
more important than yards because we know yards, you know,
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sometimes you can be being blown out. Team goes into
preventing all that, so you can rack up yards that
kind of meaningless yards. But nonetheless it is an explosive offense.
And they though with Ezekiel Elliott, one of the best
running backs in the league, a guy that when he
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rushes for one hundred yards at least, they're twenty three
and five since twenty sixteen, and he has not rushed
for a hundred yards in any of the three games
this year, first time in his career. And Dad said
today though yesterday, I'm sorry that he wants to keep
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pushing the explosive offense. He said, they want to play
up tempo regardless of you know, the score, regardless of
whether they're winning a blowout or trailing or whatever the
case a closed game. He wants to keep the foot
on the gas when some are thinking, you know what,
you need to let up a little and hand the
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ball off to your your bell cow name Ezekiel Elliott.
Where are you at on this? And and could this
be problematic in Dallas? Well it is problematic, that could be.
It is which is indicative of their their one and
two records, which should be owing three. Uh, we're not
for that was a tremendous The kick was great, but
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the lack of knowledge by the Atlanta Falcons and their
players on the receiving end of that kick, it just
blows my mind. And that was quickly, do you think
because I don't know. Maybe they came out and said it,
but the last thing I heard was they knew they
could jump on it, but they didn't want to because well,
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actually I know. I was talking with Brandon Marshall about it.
He was on the hands team back in the day.
He said, you're wait. You want to wait because you
don't want to pounce on it and lose it. And
then it's a live ball. Before the ten yards, I
thought that was crazy. You gotta jump on the ball.
But if you have coaching, to me, what it is
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is if you can recover the ball, recover it right now.
Don't dive at it and hit it the back the
other way. But if you can recover the ball, so
it wouldn't have been hard to handle it, because what
can happen is one of those Atlanta Falcon players could
have just walked over to it because it was moving
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so slow. They could have walked over to it at seven, eight,
nine yards and fell on the ball. Period. It was
nothing Dallas could have done in that moment. But once
it got to ten yards, what is the point of
diving on it? Now? It's a live football right right,
And so if it weren't for that blunder by the
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hapless Atlanta Falcons, the Dallas Cowboys would be all in three.
So when I look at what's going on there, and
Dak Prescott is impressive, Yes, impressive numbers. He's thrown for
a lot of yards, is he because the summers just
saying summer. Some are are like you, and I agree
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with you. I think he's been impressive. If others are
like uh, But he still can't win or he's not.
I get that, but I'm just talking individually, right, Dak
Prescott is almost close to seventy percent of completion percentage
eleven hundred and eight, almost twelve hundred yards in three games,
eight point three yards a completion, right, four twenty yards
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a game right, five touchdowns, two interceptions, those in three weeks.
Those are tremendous numbers. Right. But what happens is the
Dallas Cowboys are built to run the football. They always
have been built to run the football. That's why they
gave Ezekiel at ninety something million dollars. So when you
don't do that and you do open it up and
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air it out like they're you know, Dak Prescott loves
to do this. The problem is your defense isn't good
enough to sustain that. The more your defense is on
the field, the worst hit will be for you. Dallas
has been behind trying to play catch up in these
games because their defense is having problems stopping people. How
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do you alleviate that you run the football, you win
the time of possession, you control the down and distance
with the running game. When the Dallas Cowboys aren't doing that,
this is the result a one and two start. Does
Mike McCarthy not see that? Because I agree with you totally.
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We got a good running game. Let's keep our defense
off the field because our defense is horrible. That's why
they're one into The defense is atrocious. When your best
player hasn't played football in four years, when your best
defensive lineman hasn't played football in four years, then I've
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been speaking of Alden Smith, like you have to adjust.
You have to be like, okay, well, hey, Alder Smith
has four sacks, right, nobody else on the team has
more than one, and only two other guys have one.
Think about that. Someone you know and your highest paid
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player doesn't have one on the defensive side, DeMarcus Lawrence.
So when you know these things as a coach, you
have to say, hey, look, we have to number one,
give our defense extended time to rest, recover and make adjustments.
But here what I gotta ask you, and I guess
maybe you answered it, and that they're getting down early
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and they gotta throw. But dak is leading the league
in past attempts? Is that? Like I said, it's not
Mike McCarthy being a dufus. It's the fact that their
defense just they get in the hole and then you
gotta throw. Is that it? What happens is when both
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sides of the room, meaning offense and defensive sides, are
not on the same page. You get this, right. You
get an offense that's let's go, let's go where Ferrari
let's go, let's go, let's go. And then you have
a defense which is a station wagon. You line a
Ferrari in the station wagon up on the freeway, the
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station WAYI is not gonna be able to keep up
with the Ferrari, right right, So instead of everybody just
getting in the in the station wagon and going together,
offense is often running. We're doing it. We're gonna put
the ball up in the air. Dak Prescott had four
hundred and seventy some yards last game, right right. Of
course they needed him to do that, but there were
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times in that game where they could have seized control
of the game and they didn't. That's the problem. It's like, look, hey,
we get it. We understand that that was the one
that was the one possession game. Because on the opposite
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it's Seattle. Now we know that Russell Wilson is racking
up all these touchdowns fourteen and three games, unbelievable, a
record fourteen. He is eighteenth in the league in past attempts.
He's got forty fewer pass attempts than Dak Prescott. And
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I'm looking at Pete Carroll the opposite. I'm not saying
he's gotta throw fifty times a game, but he should
be throwing more. This is what we're talking about with
let Russell Cook. This is a tangent. I don't want
to get away from the Cowboys, but I'm just saying, like,
sometimes I don't get it. You brought up having the
defense and the offense on the same page. How uncommon
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is that where they're not on the same base. Obviously
it's the head coach's job to make sure that their
philosophies are uniformed. But how common is it. You bring
up a good point, I mean you would it seems
like they're not communicating. It happens. That happens. That happens,
and you can tell the teams that aren't on the
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same page. When you watch New England, you know that
they're on the same page. Right when you watch a
team like New England, you watch a team like Kansas City.
Remember a couple of years ago, Kansas City's defense was terrible. Ye, right,
they knew, you knew, right, we gotta put the ball
and then we have to outscore our opponents. Right, So
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when you're when you know, when you don't recognize the
deficiencies in your football team on either side of the ball,
or even special teams, because you need all three to
really be successful, when you're not addressing those issues, when
you don't come into the offensive team room or install
room and be with the OC and say, hey, look
this is what we have to do. All right, we
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gotta run this ball. We have to manage to clock,
we have to we have to eliminate the time that
our defense spends on the team on the on the field. Right,
All of these things go together. You can't have one
without the other, or even attempt to navigate that without
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understanding who you are as a team. That's all McCarthy
to me, it is. Of course, it all starts with
the head coach. Of course, yes it does us. Now,
now I would say this before we move on, I'll
tell you this now. They just got rid of Jason Garrett, right,
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His not was he's not always dialed in, right, excuse man, right,
So now they bring him McCarthy just won a Super Bowl,
He's had success, right, what's gonna happen? Now they lose
to the Browns this weekend, which is possible. I think
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I think Dallas will win, but it is possible. I
think they win a close game. But you're right if
but you know what, I think it'll be on Jerry
because Jerry brought in the guy that he could dictate
things too. It's all on Jerry. You brought in a
guy who could dictate to Fox Sports Radio has the
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But let's stick with the NBA e from and Kyrie Irving.
So Kyrie calls quite a stir yesterday when he said
something he didn't name Lebron, but come on, he said
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something that obviously was not just geared toward Lebron, but
geared toward all these former teammates. And he said as much.
And then he backtracked on it or tried to clean
it up later. But here's the first comment that got
all of the NBA world in an uproar. One thing
I've always been comfortable with is, you know, I felt
like I was the best option on every team I
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played for, you know, down the stretch. This is the
first time in my career where I could look down
and be like that make that shot too, all right
nowt That bleep was Kevin Durant, And he's right about that.
Kevin Durant can make that shot too. Kyrie or Durant,
either one of them is a great option in the clutch.
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And I have nob with Kyrie saying he's always felt
he was the best option down the stretch, even though
he played with Lebron. That's fun. You want a guy
to think that way, especially when he can't deliver, which
Kyrie has hit one of the greatest shots in NBA history.
But after the people rightly said hold up, hold the phones,
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Kyrie played with Lebron James, and he said, this is
the first time he's ever felt like he had a
teammate who could also hit a big shot. Naturally, we
thought of Lebron. Then way down the line, you also
thought of Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown and the other
guys he's played with. But first of course, was Lebron
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and Kyrie caught wind of of it, and here's how
he tried to clean it up. Why must have always
be brother against brother? Why if I'm addressing anyone, I'll
say their name. Come on, y'all, don't listen to the
false narratives. Let people live their lives. It's just the game,
all right? From you go first? Because I okay, I
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got you. So this is the problem that athletes have
a lot, right They they walk themselves into situations and
then they turn and say, why why I got to
be like that? Because you open the door to it.
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So you have to be cognizant of what you're saying
right when you're saying it, because when you leave it
up for interpretation, this is what you get. People are
going to let me ask you this that even interpretation. No, no, no, no,
it's not. But but I'm saying and in the largeness
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of general in general, right, you have to be specific
of what you're talking about. If you say, this is
the first time I've ever been on a team. Taking
case in point, they've never played together in a nets
game ever. All right, ever, so what are you talking about? Anyway?
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I'll get to that. Maybe later. So when you make
a statement like this is the first time and my
career a playing basketball that I can look and say
that teammate, Oh, he's clutched like I'm clutch, And you
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don't think that people are immediately going to compare you
compare that statement to Lebron James, who you played and
won a championship with. The naivety of that is ridiculous
to me, right, and then you you try to fight
back by saying, why has it always got to be
like that? Right? Because you made it like that. You
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can't make open blanket statements like that and not expect,
especially when you've played with a great player, arguably the
second best play in the NBA history. That's like Scottie
Pippen when he went to Portland looking down to Black,
this is the first time I've ever been on the
team where somebody was dependable in the fourth quarter. What's
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the first thing's gonna happen? Right, What's the first thing's
gonna happen? Exactly right? The first thing you do is
check Scottie Um when Shaq k Scott when Shaq went
to Miami and he said, when I'm playing with Dwayne Wade,
this is the first time that I know. Ye I
know for a fact that he's gonna take over in
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the fourth quarter, like all of that type of stuff.
Like the first thing that's gonna happen is, well, what
about Kobe I from You made a great point and
we've had it happened on the show, you know, I've
had it happened in my career as a journalist robe
pass too. There are times when athletes make statements and
they're being honest, you know, and they're just talking and
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then it becomes a big deal and they didn't realize
it was gonna become such a big deal, you know,
like like and then they're like, oh my god, and
then they backtrack. And you have to understand that when
you say something, you you got to be able to
back it up. And it's fine. I get it initially
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if an athlete's new to the media or he's new
to the league. You know, a young guy who really
hasn't dealt with that type of pressure and pressing all
that before. I get it then, But Kyrie, come on,
he's been in long in the same guy who's been
alienating locker rooms everywhere he goes. He's in Cleveland. He
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decides he wants to leave Cleveland because he wants a
team himself. He's tired of being little brother, playing second fiddle. Right,
he doesn't have the pedigree to be out. Fuck, I
don't care what you say. Great ball handler can finish
big shots. He doesn't have the pedigree because he doesn't
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have the leadership ability. Right. He goes to Boston. They
got some young guns over there, Tatum Brown, they clicking. Right,
he gets there. They don't like him there without him
about it. They went to you know, they went to
the Eastern convers Final without him, without him when he
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was injured. When he came back out in five in
the second round struggle, it doesn't work, and they they
came out of the locker room. They don't even know
how to relate to him and respond to him or
talk to him. Right. He goes to Brooklyn, b K,
stand up britt. Right, he goes to Brooklyn. He's in
that locker room. It comes out this year in that
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locker room that he's alienating guys. Right, Guys don't know
whether to talk to him, when to talk to him,
or any of that. Because he he's hot, called moody, Right, right,
guys don't know how to how to how to deal
with that. So my thing is how much owner can
you put this guy who this is the same guy
who thinks the Earth is flat? Come on, I mean
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another right, he thinks, but he made an argument for
a flat earth. Okay, it is going to be interesting
to say the least. What what's going on in Brooklyn
this uh this year? But I look one thing, and
I generally do like Kyrie. I mean, he's got you know,
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he does his stuff, but but this is uh, I
don't like you trying kind of putting this on the media, right, Like,
come on, sees Lebron. Whenever he bumps into Lebron again,
he's gonna be like, man, you know the media, man,
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they brew that out of proportion. No, it wasn't. You
said it on a podcast, The Kevin Durant podcast actually
put that out the quote out as their lead quote
to get people to listen. The questionnaire who asked you
the question about who's gonna take the last shot prefaced
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it by saying, now it's gonna go viral. Come on,
and it's our fault you said it. Don't don't give
me the I didn't mention his name, So that's not
who I was talking about. Come on, man, we're not stupid.
If I say if next week I do a show
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with George Reister, right, and I say, man, and I'm serious,
say I say it seriously. Man, it's good to have
a football player on who know basketball? Do I have
to say your name to that beat for that to
be a shot at you? Shots fired? You know what
I'm saying. And I'm coming and I'm coming for you
if if you and I'm coming for you know I
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you know, I call a show randomly. I call a
show randomly. You do all is you would call it?
And you know I'd never say that because you knew,
no your your who. But but that's my point, Like, yeah,
I said it on I said on TV today. When
I go on TV and I say Michael Jordan's the goat,
I'm saying Magic's not, Lebron's not, Kareem's not, Wilke's not.
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I don't have to say their names. No you don't,
So don't give me the you know, Bill Clinton. It
depends on what the definition of is is, you know,
not don't give me any of that stuff. So that's
that's what bothered me the most. You're trying to pass
the buck for what you said. If you I say,
I ram if you and you've been in the business
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long enough, you've been on the airwaves long enough. If
you're man enough to say it, you got to be
bad man enough to back it up and handle the repercussions,
because you know, and and a lot of times I
from athletes will come at us, right, and we are
doing I've told some of them we ain't doing nothing
different than any sports fan, including y'all. Do y'all just
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do it or a random sports fans just do it
in the barbershop or in the in the crib watching
the game with your boys. When it's not going public.
We do it publicly. So we have to be able
to back up or or answer for what we say. Right,
you say it in the barbershop, ain't no, you know
what I mean? It might be some arguing the barber
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might mess your fade up, but other than that, there's
no repercussions. And look, you have to understand this, right,
this isn't the first misstep in the media Kyrie's had. Right,
this is this is this isn't like it didn't shock
me when I saw that. Right, he likes attention, he does,
and that's fine. But what he has to realize is
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he has to be careful of that because now he's
playing with one of the most sensitive superstars we have
in basketball with Kevin Durant. Yeah, you have to remember
that he has a hit history of alienating people. Teammates now,
as much as they wanted to play together, they never
played together.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Cup Off with Chris Rush and Rod Harker. Lebron James
spoke yesterday and he may have been making this comment
in reference to Kyrie Irving, his former teammate, who said
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some things yesterday about, you know, not trusting any of
his former teammates to take that last shot like he
now will do with Kevin Durant. We'll get into all
that later. Whatever sparked it, Lebron James talked about the
relationship on the court and off with him in a
d Anthony Davis. Here's what he said. We're not jealous
of each other. That is the absolute contrary of where
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we are, and we want the best seriously every single day,
both on and off the floor for one another. We're
not jealous of one another. You're aligning that will respect.
I think the sky's the limit, all right, So let
me do my due diligence, because we do have an
NBA Finals actually being played, whether it feels like that
or not. Lakers up one, ooh, I picked him in five.
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That may have been one game too many. Skip Bayliss
joked earlier after Game one. We're on undisputed together. He's
predicted now he changes prediction from Lakers in five to
Lakers in two, meaning that after tonight's games, both teams
tired of being in the bubble just say, you know what,
just just give the Lakers the championship. Let's go home.
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So I think this is over, especially because Bam ad
to Bayou arguably the Heat's best player. I mean, it's
probably Jimmy Butler certainly with the inspiration, but Bam is
huge for them All Star and then Goren Drajachus, their
quarterback on the floor, had a great year for them.
They're both out with injuries. So I know, sometimes you know,
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guys step up the opponent takes you lightly. But I
just feel like Lebron is so focused on this fourth ring,
which he knows is huge for him, that he's just
not even gonna let that happen. They might not blow
him out like they should, but the Lakers will win.
And I think this thing is over pretty quickly. But
so we had to say that just because it's Newsy.
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But what I want to ask, what I want to
say to you from A nine, get your thoughts. I
know you're a long time Lakers fan growing up in
southern Kyle. I believe if Lebron and Ad can keep
this attitude that Lebron says they have, and I believe
they have, then they could be the reverse version, almost
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a Zoro World version, if you If you remember that
from the Seinfeld shows of Magic and Kareem in Showtime,
of course, Magic was the younger point guard, ran everything.
Kareem was the older guy who Magic's brilliance help prolong
Kareem's career and him when he won his last championship
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at forty one. Believe it or not, in this situation,
it'd be the reverse the older player, Lebron the point guard,
and Ad becomes the man like Magic became the man
midway through Showtime, and you know, the big is the
younger guy, and they can win more tight, they can win.
They're gonna win this one. They have at least in
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my view, I'm not guaranteeing it. I'm just saying they
should at least be able to win one more and
maybe two, maybe more than one more. So. I but
I think Key is keeping this attitude. I want to
tell you a quick story about Magic and Kareem that
Magic told me that illustrates their attitude. You know, I
worked with Magic closely on the Old Network. We did
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the NBA Countdown show together, and we would just talk
between hits for hours, and one thing I came away
with feeling. Now, we all know Magic's got a healthy ego,
but one thing I came away understanding was when it
came to basketball. Now, obviously he wanted his props like
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every superstar does, but he was he really did not
care about stats. From all the talks we had, I
really came away from that feeling Magic was strictly about winning.
He didn't care if he score eight points as long
as they win. And he told me a story where
it right before the eighty six eighty seventh season when
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pat Riley came to him before the season and said, look,
we need you now to Kareem's getting older, we need
you to be our number one score scoring option. Going forward,
you gotta be the offense. You gotta look more to score.
And Magic said, did you talk to Cap about this
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Cap being a Kareem? And Riley said, yep, I talked
to him. It's all good. Magic said, all right, let's
let's me and you go talk to Kareem about this
right to make sure. And Magic was like, we don't
want any beef. We don't want any tension. I don't
want to be the number one option if it's gonna
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rub Kareem the wrong way, because that will hinder our
chances of winning the championship. And obviously they talked it out.
Kareem was cool with it. Magic led the team in
scoring for I think the first time in three years.
He ended up leading him I think three years in scoring,
but that was the first time he averaged a career
high twenty almost twenty four points a game. They won
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the next two championships. So my point is, if Lebrin
and Ad can have that relationship and ship from where
Lebron don't care that people are now will be saying
a D's the best on the team. AD might win
an MVP Award, not Lebron. Where if Lebron don't care
about that, and they they can win at least another title,
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if not more. Your thoughts, I agree with that sentiment. Now,
this was kareem aging Kareem Right, who's guy who just
quite was in hooking like it used to? Lebron James
currently is still playing at a level on par with
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his entire career, the spand of his career. First, first,
it's very close. First time really taking over the point
guard position. Although he has been ball dominant his entire career,
we get that, but now truly being a point guard,
and he leads the league and assists in You're seventeen. Right,
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at any moment, Lebron can get his shot, whether it
be at the basket, right, physically dominating an opponent who's
too small to guard him, are too slow to stay
in front of him. Right. He understands that about his game. Now,
That's why he said nothing on the basketball court surprises me, Right,
nothing scares me. Is nothing a team can do to
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me to make me worry. I've been through it and
seen it all right, So his understanding of that and
how unguardable his cohort is right the brow, Anthony Davis,
he understands that also is a mismatch. So moving forward,
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he can directly run the offense through Anthony Davis and
his skill set right, But Lebron James, because he is
ball dominant, he can still get his shot off. He'll
always be able to do that. So with him not
feeling like he has to carry the load of the game,
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Lebron James comes out of the game every game at
the six minute mark. He's gonna get his break because
you have Anthony Davis on the court and they can
run the offense through them. Now, on the topic of
them winning more than this one, we have to figure
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out what the ancillary pieces are going to be because
this was a hodgepodge of guys cut and pasted and
put together and all year that's been people's biggest knock
on the Lakers. They don't have a very deep team,
they don't have great shooters around Lebron and Anthony Davis.
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Now they've since you know, the last few games of
the playoffs, those guys who weren't necessarily First of all,
I'm still waiting for Danny Green to show up to
the playoffs, but anyway, well, he had two big three
two threes from Danny Green. That's not what they do
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is is two of those ancillary parts as you call it,
Kuzma uh uh, Danny Green, can Tavis Carwell, Poe Alex
Caruso two of the rondo. Two of them has to
show up fairly big, relatively big for them. You know.
It just has to be consistent per game, right, like
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we can be a different too, but two of them,
because you can't all the focus on the court every game,
every minute when Anthony Davis and Lebron on the court
are on those two, So anyone else, any of the
other three players are going to have wide open shots, period. Yes,
you have to be able to capitalize on that. And
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he from they're going to have next year. I do
believe Lebron probably and he may not win the finals MVP,
which is fine, But Lebron probably enters next season as
the best player in the world. Okay, but let me
ask you, this is top five or six. He just
made a statement. You said, Lebron's probably not going to
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win the FRON No, I said he may not. I
think it's very possible that he did. He won't win
the finals MVP. Right, So now you opened up a
whole another can of worms in terms of, well, what
does that mean about his legacy. Be sure to catch
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We just were talking about the Browns and are there
budding issues in that locker room with their receivers o
BJ and Jarvis Landry wanting the ball more having complained
about it. But as Ethan said, just the fact that
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it's a topic of conversation is not it's problematic. Let's
leave it at that. They've got a big game against
the Cowboys this weekend. And I'll tell you what. And
the Browns are two and one, the Cowboys one and two.
I from this is one of the games I'm most
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looking forward to this weekend. And interestingly, it kind of
includes two teams that I guess, for lack of a
better phrase, are searching for their identity. Now maybe the
Browns have found it and that they've been a running
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team for the first few weeks and they got these
two flamboyant receivers are well known receivers. One of them
is flamboyant in obj but they're better off running the ball.
And then you've got so where how are they gonna
deal with that tension, that dynamic. And then with the Cowboys,
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I mean, Dak Prescott is racking up stats as far
as yards, like he's Dan Marino. He's leading the league
in passing yards. They're leading the league in yards, and
now they're not leading them in points. They're eighth in
points per game at twenty nine, which I think is
more important than yards because we know yards, you know,
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sometimes you can be being blown out. Team goes into
preventing all that, so you can rack up yards that
kind of meaningless yards. But nonetheless it is an explosive offense.
And they though with Ezekiel Elliott, one of the best
running backs in the league, a guy that when he
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rushes for one hundred yards at least, they're twenty three
and five since twenty sixteen, and he has not rushed
for a hundred yards in any of the three games
this year, first time in his career. And Dad said
today though yesterday, I'm sorry that he wants to keep
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pushing the explosive offense. He said, they want to play
up tempo regardless of you know, the score, regardless of
whether they're winning a blowout or trailing or whatever the
case a closed game. He wants to keep the foot
on the gas when some are thinking, you know what,
you need to let up a little and hand the
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ball off to your your bell cow name Ezekiel Elliott.
Where are you at on this? And and could this
be problematic in Dallas? Well it is problematic, that could be.
It is which is indicative of their their one and
two records, which should be owing three. Uh, we're not
for that was a tremendous The kick was great, but
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the lack of knowledge by the Atlanta Falcons and their
players on the receiving end of that kick, it just
blows my mind. And that was quickly, do you think
because I don't know. Maybe they came out and said it,
but the last thing I heard was they knew they
could jump on it, but they didn't want to because well,
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actually I know. I was talking with Brandon Marshall about it.
He was on the hands team back in the day.
He said, you're wait. You want to wait because you
don't want to pounce on it and lose it. And
then it's a live ball. Before the ten yards, I
thought that was crazy. You gotta jump on the ball.
But if you have coaching, to me, what it is
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is if you can recover the ball, recover it right now.
Don't dive at it and hit it the back the
other way. But if you can recover the ball, so
it wouldn't have been hard to handle it, because what
can happen is one of those Atlanta Falcon players could
have just walked over to it because it was moving
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so slow. They could have walked over to it at seven, eight,
nine yards and fell on the ball. Period. It was
nothing Dallas could have done in that moment. But once
it got to ten yards, what is the point of
diving on it? Now? It's a live football right right,
And so if it weren't for that blunder by the
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hapless Atlanta Falcons, the Dallas Cowboys would be all in three.
So when I look at what's going on there, and
Dak Prescott is impressive, Yes, impressive numbers. He's thrown for
a lot of yards, is he because the summers just
saying summer. Some are are like you, and I agree
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with you. I think he's been impressive. If others are
like uh, But he still can't win or he's not.
I get that, but I'm just talking individually, right, Dak
Prescott is almost close to seventy percent of completion percentage
eleven hundred and eight, almost twelve hundred yards in three games,
eight point three yards a completion, right, four twenty yards
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a game right, five touchdowns, two interceptions, those in three weeks.
Those are tremendous numbers. Right. But what happens is the
Dallas Cowboys are built to run the football. They always
have been built to run the football. That's why they
gave Ezekiel at ninety something million dollars. So when you
don't do that and you do open it up and
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air it out like they're you know, Dak Prescott loves
to do this. The problem is your defense isn't good
enough to sustain that. The more your defense is on
the field, the worst hit will be for you. Dallas
has been behind trying to play catch up in these
games because their defense is having problems stopping people. How
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do you alleviate that you run the football, you win
the time of possession, you control the down and distance
with the running game. When the Dallas Cowboys aren't doing that,
this is the result a one and two start. Does
Mike McCarthy not see that? Because I agree with you totally.
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We got a good running game. Let's keep our defense
off the field because our defense is horrible. That's why
they're one into The defense is atrocious. When your best
player hasn't played football in four years, when your best
defensive lineman hasn't played football in four years, then I've
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been speaking of Alden Smith, like you have to adjust.
You have to be like, okay, well, hey, Alder Smith
has four sacks, right, nobody else on the team has
more than one, and only two other guys have one.
Think about that. Someone you know and your highest paid
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player doesn't have one on the defensive side, DeMarcus Lawrence.
So when you know these things as a coach, you
have to say, hey, look, we have to number one,
give our defense extended time to rest, recover and make adjustments.
But here what I gotta ask you, and I guess
maybe you answered it, and that they're getting down early
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and they gotta throw. But dak is leading the league
in past attempts? Is that? Like I said, it's not
Mike McCarthy being a dufus. It's the fact that their
defense just they get in the hole and then you
gotta throw. Is that it? What happens is when both
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sides of the room, meaning offense and defensive sides, are
not on the same page. You get this, right. You
get an offense that's let's go, let's go where Ferrari
let's go, let's go, let's go. And then you have
a defense which is a station wagon. You line a
Ferrari in the station wagon up on the freeway, the
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station WAYI is not gonna be able to keep up
with the Ferrari, right right, So instead of everybody just
getting in the in the station wagon and going together,
offense is often running. We're doing it. We're gonna put
the ball up in the air. Dak Prescott had four
hundred and seventy some yards last game, right right. Of
course they needed him to do that, but there were
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times in that game where they could have seized control
of the game and they didn't. That's the problem. It's like, look, hey,
we get it. We understand that that was the one
that was the one possession game. Because on the opposite
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it's Seattle. Now we know that Russell Wilson is racking
up all these touchdowns fourteen and three games, unbelievable, a
record fourteen. He is eighteenth in the league in past attempts.
He's got forty fewer pass attempts than Dak Prescott. And
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I'm looking at Pete Carroll the opposite. I'm not saying
he's gotta throw fifty times a game, but he should
be throwing more. This is what we're talking about with
let Russell Cook. This is a tangent. I don't want
to get away from the Cowboys, but I'm just saying, like,
sometimes I don't get it. You brought up having the
defense and the offense on the same page. How uncommon
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is that where they're not on the same base. Obviously
it's the head coach's job to make sure that their
philosophies are uniformed. But how common is it. You bring
up a good point, I mean you would it seems
like they're not communicating. It happens. That happens. That happens,
and you can tell the teams that aren't on the
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same page. When you watch New England, you know that
they're on the same page. Right when you watch a
team like New England, you watch a team like Kansas City.
Remember a couple of years ago, Kansas City's defense was terrible. Ye, right,
they knew, you knew, right, we gotta put the ball
and then we have to outscore our opponents. Right, So
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when you're when you know, when you don't recognize the
deficiencies in your football team on either side of the ball,
or even special teams, because you need all three to
really be successful, when you're not addressing those issues, when
you don't come into the offensive team room or install
room and be with the OC and say, hey, look
this is what we have to do. All right, we
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gotta run this ball. We have to manage to clock,
we have to we have to eliminate the time that
our defense spends on the team on the on the field. Right,
All of these things go together. You can't have one
without the other, or even attempt to navigate that without
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understanding who you are as a team. That's all McCarthy
to me, it is. Of course, it all starts with
the head coach. Of course, yes it does us. Now,
now I would say this before we move on, I'll
tell you this now. They just got rid of Jason Garrett, right,
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His not was he's not always dialed in, right, excuse man, right,
So now they bring him McCarthy just won a Super Bowl,
He's had success, right, what's gonna happen? Now they lose
to the Browns this weekend, which is possible. I think
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I think Dallas will win, but it is possible. I
think they win a close game. But you're right if
but you know what, I think it'll be on Jerry
because Jerry brought in the guy that he could dictate
things too. It's all on Jerry. You brought in a
guy who could dictate to Fox Sports Radio has the
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But let's stick with the NBA e from and Kyrie Irving.
So Kyrie calls quite a stir yesterday when he said
something he didn't name Lebron, but come on, he said
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something that obviously was not just geared toward Lebron, but
geared toward all these former teammates. And he said as much.
And then he backtracked on it or tried to clean
it up later. But here's the first comment that got
all of the NBA world in an uproar. One thing
I've always been comfortable with is, you know, I felt
like I was the best option on every team I
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played for, you know, down the stretch. This is the
first time in my career where I could look down
and be like that make that shot too, all right
nowt That bleep was Kevin Durant, And he's right about that.
Kevin Durant can make that shot too. Kyrie or Durant,
either one of them is a great option in the clutch.
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And I have nob with Kyrie saying he's always felt
he was the best option down the stretch, even though
he played with Lebron. That's fun. You want a guy
to think that way, especially when he can't deliver, which
Kyrie has hit one of the greatest shots in NBA history.
But after the people rightly said hold up, hold the phones,
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Kyrie played with Lebron James, and he said, this is
the first time he's ever felt like he had a
teammate who could also hit a big shot. Naturally, we
thought of Lebron. Then way down the line, you also
thought of Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown and the other
guys he's played with. But first of course, was Lebron
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and Kyrie caught wind of of it, and here's how
he tried to clean it up. Why must have always
be brother against brother? Why if I'm addressing anyone, I'll
say their name. Come on, y'all, don't listen to the
false narratives. Let people live their lives. It's just the game,
all right? From you go first? Because I okay, I
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got you. So this is the problem that athletes have
a lot, right They they walk themselves into situations and
then they turn and say, why why I got to
be like that? Because you open the door to it.
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So you have to be cognizant of what you're saying
right when you're saying it, because when you leave it
up for interpretation, this is what you get. People are
going to let me ask you this that even interpretation. No, no, no, no,
it's not. But but I'm saying and in the largeness
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of general in general, right, you have to be specific
of what you're talking about. If you say, this is
the first time I've ever been on a team. Taking
case in point, they've never played together in a nets
game ever. All right, ever, so what are you talking about? Anyway?
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I'll get to that. Maybe later. So when you make
a statement like this is the first time and my
career a playing basketball that I can look and say
that teammate, Oh, he's clutched like I'm clutch, And you
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don't think that people are immediately going to compare you
compare that statement to Lebron James, who you played and
won a championship with. The naivety of that is ridiculous
to me, right, and then you you try to fight
back by saying, why has it always got to be
like that? Right? Because you made it like that. You
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can't make open blanket statements like that and not expect,
especially when you've played with a great player, arguably the
second best play in the NBA history. That's like Scottie
Pippen when he went to Portland looking down to Black,
this is the first time I've ever been on the
team where somebody was dependable in the fourth quarter. What's
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the first thing's gonna happen? Right, What's the first thing's
gonna happen? Exactly right? The first thing you do is
check Scottie Um when Shaq k Scott when Shaq went
to Miami and he said, when I'm playing with Dwayne Wade,
this is the first time that I know. Ye I
know for a fact that he's gonna take over in
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the fourth quarter, like all of that type of stuff.
Like the first thing that's gonna happen is, well, what
about Kobe I from You made a great point and
we've had it happened on the show, you know, I've
had it happened in my career as a journalist robe
pass too. There are times when athletes make statements and
they're being honest, you know, and they're just talking and
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then it becomes a big deal and they didn't realize
it was gonna become such a big deal, you know,
like like and then they're like, oh my god, and
then they backtrack. And you have to understand that when
you say something, you you got to be able to
back it up. And it's fine. I get it initially
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if an athlete's new to the media or he's new
to the league. You know, a young guy who really
hasn't dealt with that type of pressure and pressing all
that before. I get it then, But Kyrie, come on,
he's been in long in the same guy who's been
alienating locker rooms everywhere he goes. He's in Cleveland. He
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decides he wants to leave Cleveland because he wants a
team himself. He's tired of being little brother, playing second fiddle. Right,
he doesn't have the pedigree to be out. Fuck, I
don't care what you say. Great ball handler can finish
big shots. He doesn't have the pedigree because he doesn't
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have the leadership ability. Right. He goes to Boston. They
got some young guns over there, Tatum Brown, they clicking. Right,
he gets there. They don't like him there without him
about it. They went to you know, they went to
the Eastern convers Final without him, without him when he
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was injured. When he came back out in five in
the second round struggle, it doesn't work, and they they
came out of the locker room. They don't even know
how to relate to him and respond to him or
talk to him. Right. He goes to Brooklyn, b K,
stand up britt. Right, he goes to Brooklyn. He's in
that locker room. It comes out this year in that
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locker room that he's alienating guys. Right, Guys don't know
whether to talk to him, when to talk to him,
or any of that. Because he he's hot, called moody, Right, right,
guys don't know how to how to how to deal
with that. So my thing is how much owner can
you put this guy who this is the same guy
who thinks the Earth is flat? Come on, I mean
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another right, he thinks, but he made an argument for
a flat earth. Okay, it is going to be interesting
to say the least. What what's going on in Brooklyn
this uh this year? But I look one thing, and
I generally do like Kyrie. I mean, he's got you know,
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he does his stuff, but but this is uh, I
don't like you trying kind of putting this on the media, right, Like,
come on, sees Lebron. Whenever he bumps into Lebron again,
he's gonna be like, man, you know the media, man,
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they brew that out of proportion. No, it wasn't. You
said it on a podcast, The Kevin Durant podcast actually
put that out the quote out as their lead quote
to get people to listen. The questionnaire who asked you
the question about who's gonna take the last shot prefaced
(31:12):
it by saying, now it's gonna go viral. Come on,
and it's our fault you said it. Don't don't give
me the I didn't mention his name, So that's not
who I was talking about. Come on, man, we're not stupid.
If I say if next week I do a show
(31:33):
with George Reister, right, and I say, man, and I'm serious,
say I say it seriously. Man, it's good to have
a football player on who know basketball? Do I have
to say your name to that beat for that to
be a shot at you? Shots fired? You know what
I'm saying. And I'm coming and I'm coming for you
if if you and I'm coming for you know I
(31:55):
you know, I call a show randomly. I call a
show randomly. You do all is you would call it?
And you know I'd never say that because you knew,
no your your who. But but that's my point, Like, yeah,
I said it on I said on TV today. When
I go on TV and I say Michael Jordan's the goat,
I'm saying Magic's not, Lebron's not, Kareem's not, Wilke's not.
(32:19):
I don't have to say their names. No you don't,
So don't give me the you know, Bill Clinton. It
depends on what the definition of is is, you know,
not don't give me any of that stuff. So that's
that's what bothered me the most. You're trying to pass
the buck for what you said. If you I say,
I ram if you and you've been in the business
(32:40):
long enough, you've been on the airwaves long enough. If
you're man enough to say it, you got to be
bad man enough to back it up and handle the repercussions,
because you know, and and a lot of times I
from athletes will come at us, right, and we are
doing I've told some of them we ain't doing nothing
different than any sports fan, including y'all. Do y'all just
(33:05):
do it or a random sports fans just do it
in the barbershop or in the in the crib watching
the game with your boys. When it's not going public.
We do it publicly. So we have to be able
to back up or or answer for what we say. Right,
you say it in the barbershop, ain't no, you know
what I mean? It might be some arguing the barber
(33:29):
might mess your fade up, but other than that, there's
no repercussions. And look, you have to understand this, right,
this isn't the first misstep in the media Kyrie's had. Right,
this is this is this isn't like it didn't shock
me when I saw that. Right, he likes attention, he does,
and that's fine. But what he has to realize is
(33:50):
he has to be careful of that because now he's
playing with one of the most sensitive superstars we have
in basketball with Kevin Durant. Yeah, you have to remember
that he has a hit history of alienating people. Teammates now,
as much as they wanted to play together, they never
played together.
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kelvin washington
Rob Parker
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