November 10, 2020 • 34 mins
It's The Best Of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob get into a heated debate about the NFL's decision to pass a resolution that would incentivize the grooming and hiring of minorities, explain why the Dallas Cowboys would be crazy not to consider taking a quarterback at the top of the NFL Draft to replace Dak Prescott, and tell us why Brett Favre's infatuation with Nick Foles is really odd.
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You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brussa and Rob Harker. Rob, let's start with the NFL.
Obviously it is. It is all NFL right now, and
as the season is right in the midway, unless you
have a dui other than that all NFL talk. Yeah,
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well we will get to that. We will get to
that dui. Um and you're I know you're raring to
go on that one, so um. But yeah. The NFL
owners approved a plan to reward teams for developing racial
minorities as head coaches and gms. And the plan is
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this that if you if a coach or executive from
your team is hired by another team, now he has
to have been with your team for at least two years.
But if he's hired by another team, Rob, you actually
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get benefits. So like if Eric b enemy gets hired
this next season as a head coach, the Chiefs will
get benefits. They will get two third round draft picks,
one in twenty twenty one and one in twenty twenty two. Now,
remember this is counter The first proposal they had several
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months ago was that the team that hired the minorities
as a head coach or gim would get draft incentives.
Like you know, I can't remember what the specific picks were,
and I don't even know if they were totally determined,
but you would get draft picks for hiring a minority coach.
That got some pushback, and now this is what they've
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come up with. How you feel about it. I think
it's embarrassing. I feel bad for the NFL, and I
don't know, I don't look at it the same way
as trying to introduce or bring new people into the business.
These black people already work in the NFL. The league
is almost seventy percent black. There's a pool of talented
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people who do who know the game, who should be
hired on their own merits. And this shouldn't be this
whole notion that you got to coax people into into
doing the right thing. They've have other leagues that don't
have that kind of representation, that didn't need those kind
of incentives. You know why, because after a while, people
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just did what was right. Branch Rickey and the Brooklyn
Dodgers didn't hired, uh put Jackie Robinson on. And then
other people just decided, you know what, they are pretty
good and they can't play, and we can win. And
they started bringing people along, and people got hired, and
people became managing based coaches. A lot of black managers
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in bases they've had enough where it's not an issue
where where you have to know. I'm just saying from
the pool of people, I'm insulted by the whole thing.
I would never ever ever take a token interview or
somebody told me, oh, well, they're already gonna hire this dude,
you should just go for the experience, or you should
just so you don't just go rule either. No, I
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think the Runey rule is embarrassing. It's the same exact thing,
you know, and you don't you don't need those those places,
those things in place, Chris. If the players took it
upon themselves and refused to work for organizations that didn't
hire black people or didn't promote black people, it would change.
You don't need that if you find out that an
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organization has never had a black front office person. As
a player, I don't want to play there. I don't
want I'm not going there as a free agent. That's
how you get to change. And people understand that we're
not just going to be players and there's no future
for us. And as long as we allow these owners
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to do that, then that's what they're gonna do. And
I don't expect any huge jump in numbers because of this.
I don't I feel differently. Number one. I don't. This
confuses me a little bit, this rule, because you're now
you're incentivizing teams for quote unquote developing black head coaches
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and executives. But if they're really developing somebody who's good,
number one, you might want to keep him in your
own organization. And what is developing mean? Like, does that
mean that the black you know, head coach on your
or not head coach, but the black coach on your
staff or you know the handful of black coaches on
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your staff? Are they going to get some type of
extra training in being a head coach? Are they gonna
spend more time around the head coaches. He gonna take
them under their his wing, and you know or even executives.
That to me is paternalistic. I don't want that. If
I'm a black coach on the staff, I just want
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to be treated like everyone else. And I want to
be able to do my job, no obstacles to me
doing my job, and if I'm really good at it,
I get promoted and stuff. I also think, so I
don't and I don't think that the coaches are gonna
get the black coaches would get extra time. I'm kind
of saying that tongue in cheek because it just doesn't
really make sense. But then the other thing is it
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actually could work as a disincentive for some teams to
hire black coaches. For instance, Eric Being to me, the
offensive coordinator for the Chiefs. He should definitely get ahead
coaching job next season, no question about it. Should be
the Jets. They better get up on it and and
do something about it. But anyway, if if if the
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Chiefs are obviously a great team, so is another competitor
going to feel some kind of way by empowering the Chiefs.
So if I hire Eric Being to me, the Texans
he'd be another another great place wherehim with Desha Watson
are the Texans. Tho't gonna be like I like being
to me. I like this other guy too. I think
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they're both pretty equal. But if I go with the
other guy, I don't have to give the Chiefs don't
get two extra draft picks. The Chiefs got enough talent
they don't need two extra draft picks, so it could
work as a disincentive. So I don't. I don't. This
is a little baffling. The way that they went robed
to me. The idea that you that you can't figure
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it out and which way it would make sense tells
you all you need to know. I just well, well,
but you don't know. You just said you don't know
which way. It just didn't say that. I just said
you said you don't this. I just said this one
doesn't make sense. I do have an idea. I was
just giving you a chance to talk. Yeah. No, I'm
talking about the idea you just said, if if it
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would be if someone would be discouraged from doing it
because they're gonna help the other team. Well, I'm just
saying the idea this isn't clear cut, right, So it
could That's what I'm talking about, that you don't you know,
you're in favor of it, but you don't even know
if that's gonna be good or bad. If a team says, well,
we're not going to do that because I'm not giving
the chiefs any other players, Okay, we don't know. So
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that that that tells me right there that that that
doesn't work. I'm just saying I've never been a part
of the whole notion. I understand about giving people equal
opportunity to stuff, but this whole idea that you know,
you got to bribe somebody to hire black people that
make up seventy percent of the workforce, I just have
a problem with it. If you're talking about other other
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jobs where where maybe we weren't it involved or we
never have been a part of it, airline pilots or whatever.
The numbers and they and they have really minuscule numbers,
and you're trying to INCENTI trying to get people into
the into the business of it. But that's our business.
I hate to break it to the owners. The NFL
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is our business. That's that is. I actually like the
first proposal better incentivizing the teams, and I and I
agree with you that it shouldn't be. It should not
be an issue. You're absolutely right. We're seventy percent of
the NFL, seventy five percent of the NBA. Hiring black
coaches and executives should not be an issue. But guess
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what it is. It's been proven that we will not
hire black coaches in represent into the numbers. And I
don't think it should be seventy percent, but it should
be much higher than three, which is what they started
the season. When they started this season, of thirty two
head coaches, three were black. Ron Rivera's a minority, so
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four were minorities, three were black. That's not even ten percent.
It should be up to the players, though I hear
what you say should be. It should be. It should
be up to the league to do the right thing.
Should be able to be great if the players took
a stand. We've talked about that before. I'm just talking
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about not working for racist people that do not hire
people who look like us. That is not their responsibilitysibilities
how you make things change. No, you got black people
in the front that work in the league office that
are saying this is how you make the change. If
you're not gonna hire blacks, then we're gonna make you
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hire blacks by incentivizing you to hire blacks. It's so
different than and let me talk. I've been letting you talk.
It's no different than the government giving tax incentives to
people that invest in minority owned businesses. It's not like
we can't do that. It's it's no different than you know,
uh SAT scores. You know, we know that some African Americans,
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including me, got into college with a lower SAT score.
But I could do the work and I was not disadvantage.
I wasn't coming up in a poor neighborhood. But my
SAT score wasn't that good. But at being black helped
me get in because it's been proven that they won't
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bring us in or hire us or whatever in less
they're forced to. And this is saying you're right, you
shouldn't be that way, but it is. And whites don't
apologize for getting quote unquote affirmative action. Is Joe Judge
when when you know all the black coaches and executives
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in the league are saying, can you believe this? Behind
closed doors, they saying, this thirty eight year old kid
who's coach special teams for ten years is getting a
head coaching job. And when they say Cliff Kingsbury, this
dude who had didn't do anything in Texas Tech just
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got a head coaching job. And Adam Gaze, who failed
in Miami miserably, just got another head coaching job. That's
affirmative action for whites. They don't apologize though they don't
feel this in Salt Team, Kyle Shannonhan you think he
thinks it's a salting because he got a job because
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his last name Shannahan. So I'm a we not apologizing.
We earned it and if you're not gonna give it
to us, didn't. Unfortunately, shame on you that we have
to put things in players to make a pipe dream.
Yeah you are that some damn draft picks are gonna
make these racist owners change their ways. Well, I don't
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believe it at all. Next year because the picks. Because
the draft picks, Chris, tell me how many black guys
are gonna be head coaches next year? Because I'm getting
a third round pick, They're still gonna do what they
may do first. And if you would have told me
you would better, And if you would have told me
that a couple of players coach would have said, Joe Judge,
the Giants would have said, we're not playing for that
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guy possibility. It is the players to make plays. The
players can make sounds happen. The players having a moment
powers and they do and they do have power. They
do have power. Rob, You're I've agreed with you on that.
You and I have both talked about that at nauseum.
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But that's how you didn't change not by draft picks.
Should not it's just body. It's a charade, Chris. It
should not be the responsibility of the player. It's great
that they do it, Chris, Ship has to White players
don't have to do it, that's right. But it's their
businesses white players. Why do the black players have to
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do it? But because you know why, Because it's their future.
It's about their future after they can't play anymore. They're
vested in it. It's about black players. It's about when
I can't play anymore and I want to go into coaching.
That's worth fighting for having a job after I can't
play or after I get injured. It's all about the players.
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It's about their future. Yeah. Look, I it's like, no
damn draft picks. It's worth a try. It's better than
what we got because right now, we got less than
ten percent of the head coaches were black when you
started the season. It's for your stun. It ain't gonna
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ain't gonna be nothing. I'm telling now, they ain't gonna
change anything. Well, they dinna make somebody's sign if you're mad,
because there's draft picks. Oh yeah, oh, let me go
get Eric b Enemy now, I'm gonna get a third
round pick. Oh my god, let me hire. Let's fill
the staff with black people now and get third round picks.
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That ain't gonna happen. So you don't do nothing. You
just sit there and be mad. I think you told
And if it what you know, if the players don't,
then what then what? Because you've been saying, the players saying, y'all,
I'm just telling you. But if you really want to
make change, and it's not the plays possibility to run
the league, it'd be great if they did, but it's not.
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Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
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Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeart Radio app. The Dallas Cowboys that some pick to
make the Super Bowl. I'm glad I wasn't in that camp.
I was. I was last year, yes, but not to No.
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I picked him to win the division though, which it's
sadly it's still because Brady took over and you you
left Dak and the lurch because Brady came to the NFC. No,
I wouldn't have picked him even if I hadn't picked Tampa.
If Tampa wasn't, who would you have picked? Probably New Orleans? Okay,
probably New Orleans. Um. But anyway, Dallas rob is two
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and seven. They're tied for the worst record with the
Washington football team in the NFC for the worst record,
and it got the third worst record in the league, which,
of course in NFL means that they would have the
third pick in the NFL draft if the season ended today.
Now there are those throwing it out there, Hey, it's
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a good quarterback draft. You might want to look at somebody.
But Jerry Jones, the owner of the Cowboys ROB is saying,
no way, no, how here's Jerry on one or five
point three in Dallas talking about that prospect. Is it
crazy to bring up the idea of taking a quarterback
with the third pick or the second pick, if you
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may have it. Yes, you asked me if it's crazy
to bring the idea of that mantrire Yes, playing games here, guys,
but it's not the thing to be talking about it all,
you know, Dak is our quarterback? All right, Rob, you
you want to tackle that first, you could do it.
Go ahead. Um, Look, I think that this is the
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smart thing to say, right if you're Jerry Jones, he
said the smart thing. He said, Dak's our quarterback. He
said that's not, you know, the thing to do. But
he also said, that's not the thing to be talking about.
He's right. They don't know how the season is going
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to end. They almost beat Pittsburgh on Sunday. What if
they win five games and then they finished with the
eleventh pick or whatever it might be, and then you
don't have a chance at Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields
and you're obviously gonna go with Dak. Now you've put
your foot in your mouth, and Dak will probably even
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want to drive the price up higher than it already
is going to be. So I think Jerry said the
right thing. But Rob, and you know, I like Dak Prescott.
But I've never said Dak Prescott is an Aaron Rodgers
or a Tom Brady or somebody that can put the
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franchise on his back. He's a franchise quarterback. I've said
he is in route to be an elite, but he's not.
And I if I'm the Dallas Cowboys Rob, if I
was Jerry Jones Stephen Jones, I'm gonna be honest, I
would be thinking if I get a chance to get
Justin Fields, if we got the second, the third, the
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fourth pick, and Justin Fields is on the board, I'm
drafting because Trevor Lawrence is not gonna be on the board.
We know that. But if I could get Trevor Lawrence
or Justin Fields, I would do it as much as
I like Dak. And here's why. Money. We know the
Cowboys have spent all this money on all these other players.
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And if they franchise Dak next year, which if they
don't get a quarterback, they should do. But if your
franchise him, it's gonna be at about thirty eight million dollars,
You're probably gonna have to cut some other guys who
are making good money, some guys that your team needs
and it also kind of hamstrings you in terms of
what else you can add in the future. And obviously
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what they have doesn't look like it's enough. And so
if you get as many of these other teams that
the Kansas City did with Pat Mahomes and Baltimore, when
you have that rookie quarterback on that rookie scale salary
not making a ton, you can build around him him better.
And we've seen Kyler Murray now to a tongue of viral.
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I'm not gonna go overboard on two. It's only been
two games. But Joe Burrow, justin Herbert, these young boys
are coming in bawling, balling, and so if I can
get one of them, yeah, I gotta be honest, I
would do it. Well. I mean, obviously the conversation is
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going to happen. Uh, it makes sense that they would
ask him about it, and uh, you know, Jerry, instead
of playing coy or saying that you know, he shouldn't
be talking about it or whatever, should just I mean,
he could play it straight. But the problem is you
think he should have. If he's thinking what I said,
you think he should say that. No, So he could
just say, we'll have to see when we get there.
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We're not there yet. That's all I mean. I'm not
gonna tell you. I'm not even that leaves you know,
you know what I'm just saying. I don't know. I
would just saying no but that. But to me, that's
realistic though I don't I don't think that that that's vigilent,
you know, like like we're not there. We don't have
a great pick for me to sit here and give
you a fantasy to make you feel good. I don't
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know what our pick will be. I don't know if
we'll catch trying at the end of the year. We're
trying to win. The Cowboys are not in the tanking.
We're trying to win every single week. If you make
that argument and say, after that's all over and we
see where we are, then we'll take a look and
see what's going to be. We're going to do what's
best for the Dallas Cowboys to deliver a championship. Who
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could argue with that, Chris nobody, nobody, But given their
history and what they've done the last quarter century, he's
probably showing his cards that they won't do anything and
that they'll just bring Dacked back and they'll overpay him.
I don't know. I you know, there was other situations
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where they could have taken other players that they were
trying to move up. And they've made some mistakes and
they've done some good things drafting. But I'm telling you,
if you're if you're terrible, if you're terrible, and you
have a chance to get a quarterback on the cheap,
and it's not just that Dak got hurt, Let's just
be honest. You guys hadn't been Dak hadn't been beating
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any of the good team where you're trying to get to,
so you could say, oh, look at the numbers. He
threw for four hundred and fifty yards and a loss.
They've been losing the last two years, even with Dak
last year. So I'm sorry. I mean, I just can't
see how you could just act as if everything's gonna
turn around or you can't take a look at somebody
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else at some point. So if I'm the Cowboys, all
my chips are on the table, I'm gonna take a
look at what's gonna be best. And I don't know
if I'm paying thirty eight million dollars for a guy
coming back off of serious injury, who hasn't hasn't beaten
good teams over the last year and a half. Yeah, Look,
Dak is far him. Their biggest problem, you know. I mean,
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their defense obviously is atrocious. Ezekiel Elliott doesn't look like
the Ezekiel Elliott of old, and the offensive line is
injured and banged up. I mean, they got a lot
of problems that are worse than Dak Prescott. You could
do much worse than Dak Prescott. But but but shouldn't
it tell you a little bit? Even though even when
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Tony Dungee said what he said, Chris, it spoke volumes
because Dak was throwing the hell out of the ball
four hundred and fifty yards fifty five hundred yards, four
or five touchdowns. He was bawling, And Tony Dungee said,
and it came off in sensitive because it was after
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an injury, right, that it might be blessing in disguise
because when they were he meant it because they're gonna
run because But but what he was saying was the
Cowboys were better when it was about Dak Prescott. I mean,
when it was about his feel Elliott, they were That's
when they went to the playoffs. That's when they beat Seattle. Chris,
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It's true. No, I look, I agree, I mean, can
I do think you could win a super Bowl with
Dak Prescott, like if you're strong as all get out
everywhere else, Because we've seen Rob pretty good, court, Joe Flacco,
a Brad Johnson, we've seen quarterback Trent Diler. But overall,
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he's a you know, he's he's pretty good. He's not great,
but I mean, you know, it happens. I'm just saying
in general, they aren't. You don't always need a superstar
quarterback to win the Super Bowl. And I do think
Dak is a winner. I think he's got good intangibles.
I think he's a leader, and I think he's good
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enough physically with the arm, with the legs to help
you win a super Bowl. But he is not going
to just put the team on his back like some
of these really awesome quarterbacks are where if you're Kansas City,
if you're a Green Bay, if you're you know, uh, Baltimore,
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if you're even now Arizona and some of these other teams,
you're not thinking about a quarterback that is not that.
And again, I like him, but he's not that I've
never said tried to say he's that. He's not. And
even when he was at his best, Rob, you still
got what one playoff win. So no matter how much
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you like Dak, you can't nobody can sit here and say,
if they get a chance to draft a quarterback who
looks like he'll be at least as good as that
and possibly better and he's gonna cost you a lot
less money, you can't say, well, you know, definitely we're
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not looking at that that's not even signed. If that
had accepted that contract five years thirty three conversation, right
then you're having a different conversation. Yeah, so we'll see.
I mean, like you said, I think they're trying to
win games. Obviously they almost beat Pittsburgh. But what could
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be a blessing in disguise for them as if they
end up getting one of the top picks and having
a shot at one of those top quarterbacks, because you know,
then then you won't have to be tied up with
all the Dack's money and you can spend it elsewhere
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listen live. Brett Farve, one of the all time great quarterbacks,
was on ESPN First Take today and he was talking
about Carson Wentz and Nick Foles, and here's what he said.
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I actually he thought that they should have kept Nick
Foles rather than Carson Wentz, just based off of production
and where they got to. You know, they won a
super Bowl with Foles and that was a little bit surprising.
But they're obviously banking on his upside. You know, how
many more years do you you let it linger before
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you you stick with him? Where you cut bait? That's
a question they only can answer. Rob. This came at
an odd time, obviously, because it's the most ridiculous take
I've heard. And I didn't see First Take this morning, Chris,
But I hope that somebody pushed back. I hope that
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they updated Brett Farve on what's going on currently because
it doesn't sound like it. Yeah. I don't know if
they did or not. I didn't see it either, but
that's the thing, the timing of this had he said this,
Yeah he did. In fairness to him, he did say
it last year. But Nick Foles is struggling mightily in Chicago,
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and this is after struggling mightily in Jacksonville. He got
bench last year. It is Brett farm not remember that, Chris.
My thing is I get it that he said it before,
but to repeat that now after he got the contract
in Jacksonville, right, and he failed and he got bench
and he gets the job. He has that big game.
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Let's not forget that big game came against Atlanta and
everybody beat Atlanta, right, So maybe it wasn't that big
of a deal when you think about it. And ever
since they gave him the job, he's been awful. He's
been bad, Yeah, because Nick Foles. It just is what
he did. And look in fairness to him, and even
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far of in this case, falls had a great run.
Foles had a magnificent run in Philadelphia when route to
that Super Bowl, and even the next year he was good.
But you gotta understand what Nick Foles is and he's
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proven it time and time again. I could equate it
to Robert Doory. Robert Doory hit some humongoa shots in
the playoffs in the finals for the Spurs, for the Rockets,
for the Lakers. But Robert Ory wasn't a great regular
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season player. He was a guy that's played his best
ball in the playoffs. He was a guy. And I
say there's respectfully, but there are some guys that like
like they don't want that pressure or they don't play
well under that pressure of having to deliver game in
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and game out. There are a lot of guys in
the NBA that have a great game here there a
great season, particularly in a contract year, but then when
they get the big money or when you people start
counting on them. I need you to give me twenty
three points and nine rebounds a night like you did
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last year when nobody expected it from you, And once
the expectations are on them, they can't deliver it. And
that's Nick Foles. Rob It's yes, yes, it's happened. Chris.
I know I've said it a million times. He's fine
when you lend them the keys to go get some milk,
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but when you give him the car, he crashes it.
That that that Jacksonville job was supposed to be perfect
for him, right They needed a quarterback. Couldn't hold on
to that in Chicago, Oh, let's make the change. They
drafted Mitch Trubisky, right, didn't they did? They trade up
for him, trade it up together, They trade it up
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for him. And now that they subbed you out and
they basically say, Mitch, whatever, thanks, no thanks, We're gonna
move on. And you still can't make them like that
was the right decision. Now that question and what what
what did they do that? It tells you all you
need to know. Yeah, when you look at folds Um
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the back the years he's come in because the starter
got hurt, he's been very good eight and two in
twenty thirteen, when he came in six and two and
twenty fourteen. But then he goes to Saint Louis right there,
thinking that this guy looks good, stood right, and he
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goes four and seven. Now, yeah, he had Jeff Fisher,
but still he went four and seven, goes to Kansas City,
only starts one game one and oh h goes to
Philadelphia behind Carson Wentz and we all know what happen.
He came in and made magic. He made Bubby never
duplicate that great Super Bowl game. He made it. And
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even though the whole run, Yeah, he went to the
regular seasons, yea. Yeah. And then and he did it
the next year. I mean they didn't get to the
super Bowl obviously, but he played well. But again it
was the same situation. The season's over, Carson's hurt. You know,
nothing's expected anything. We get his gravy and he delivered.
But then he, as you said, it goes to Jacksonville,
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starts oh and four, gets benched. Now in Chicago two
and four in the games he started rob and I honestly,
I think they should go to Trubisky. So you're ready
to make the chance this, yeah, And then that's funny.
They got a great because you gotta shift. You could
shift the offense around him, you know, do what he
can do. You got the great defense, play ball control.
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That's what I think. But but but that's what I'm saying, Chris.
You're talking about making a change. And like I said,
we didn't see the show, so I'm gonna be fair, Okay, right,
but if I was on that show, I would have
been like, dude, have you watched uh, have you watched
Nick Foles lately? Do you? Like seriously, like we're talking
about him, right, you just bring up that what we
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just said to Farve Brett, this is a guy that's
proven that when it's expected. Yes, like you said, right,
when he's given the keys, he just don't want it.
And there are guys like that. There are there plenty
of guys, Chris. We talked about it. You mentioned the NBA.
There are guys who, uh and you've watched them, don't
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want the ball at the end of the game, Chris.
They're they're they're defending the defender. Yeah, you know what
I'm talking about. They're defending the defender because they want right,
they want no part of it, right right, Hot potato,
Hot potato. But yeah, it's it was just interesting timing
for Brett Farve. Now now he said I thought they
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should have gone and fall if you want to try
to you know, did he possibly mean you know at
that time, but not now. But he did go on
and look went went does have to play better and
wins it said that. Obviously he's got a lot of injuries, um,
and that's hurt him. But he has not been that
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guy that started eleven and two, and as you've said before,
he was on the MVP pace and ever since he
got injured and then Folds of course came in. But
you know, he's had moments because last year had a moment,
you know, when he got them to the playoffs, but
he might have been that consistent guy did. Here's my
only thing. We don't know what Carson Wentz is gonna
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be ultimately Chris and if he's gonna win one or whatever.
We don't, okay, but we kind of we know what
Nick Foles is and we do we do know and
that's the difference. And I'm not saying that he can't
get hot. And when you're three or four games and
he was great and we saw it. Yes, we gave
you the parade, we threw the confetti, acc build a statue, right,
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all of that. But but but his career was kind
of carved out, don't We don't we know what he is?
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Chris Brussa and Rob Harker. Rob, let's start with the NFL.
Obviously it is. It is all NFL right now, and
as the season is right in the midway, unless you
have a dui other than that all NFL talk. Yeah,
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well we will get to that. We will get to
that dui. Um and you're I know you're raring to
go on that one, so um. But yeah. The NFL
owners approved a plan to reward teams for developing racial
minorities as head coaches and gms. And the plan is
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this that if you if a coach or executive from
your team is hired by another team, now he has
to have been with your team for at least two years.
But if he's hired by another team, Rob, you actually
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get benefits. So like if Eric b enemy gets hired
this next season as a head coach, the Chiefs will
get benefits. They will get two third round draft picks,
one in twenty twenty one and one in twenty twenty two. Now,
remember this is counter The first proposal they had several
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months ago was that the team that hired the minorities
as a head coach or gim would get draft incentives.
Like you know, I can't remember what the specific picks were,
and I don't even know if they were totally determined,
but you would get draft picks for hiring a minority coach.
That got some pushback, and now this is what they've
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come up with. How you feel about it. I think
it's embarrassing. I feel bad for the NFL, and I
don't know, I don't look at it the same way
as trying to introduce or bring new people into the business.
These black people already work in the NFL. The league
is almost seventy percent black. There's a pool of talented
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people who do who know the game, who should be
hired on their own merits. And this shouldn't be this
whole notion that you got to coax people into into
doing the right thing. They've have other leagues that don't
have that kind of representation, that didn't need those kind
of incentives. You know why, because after a while, people
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just did what was right. Branch Rickey and the Brooklyn
Dodgers didn't hired, uh put Jackie Robinson on. And then
other people just decided, you know what, they are pretty
good and they can't play, and we can win. And
they started bringing people along, and people got hired, and
people became managing based coaches. A lot of black managers
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in bases they've had enough where it's not an issue
where where you have to know. I'm just saying from
the pool of people, I'm insulted by the whole thing.
I would never ever ever take a token interview or
somebody told me, oh, well, they're already gonna hire this dude,
you should just go for the experience, or you should
just so you don't just go rule either. No, I
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think the Runey rule is embarrassing. It's the same exact thing,
you know, and you don't you don't need those those places,
those things in place, Chris. If the players took it
upon themselves and refused to work for organizations that didn't
hire black people or didn't promote black people, it would change.
You don't need that if you find out that an
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organization has never had a black front office person. As
a player, I don't want to play there. I don't
want I'm not going there as a free agent. That's
how you get to change. And people understand that we're
not just going to be players and there's no future
for us. And as long as we allow these owners
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to do that, then that's what they're gonna do. And
I don't expect any huge jump in numbers because of this.
I don't I feel differently. Number one. I don't. This
confuses me a little bit, this rule, because you're now
you're incentivizing teams for quote unquote developing black head coaches
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and executives. But if they're really developing somebody who's good,
number one, you might want to keep him in your
own organization. And what is developing mean? Like, does that
mean that the black you know, head coach on your
or not head coach, but the black coach on your
staff or you know the handful of black coaches on
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your staff? Are they going to get some type of
extra training in being a head coach? Are they gonna
spend more time around the head coaches. He gonna take
them under their his wing, and you know or even executives.
That to me is paternalistic. I don't want that. If
I'm a black coach on the staff, I just want
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to be treated like everyone else. And I want to
be able to do my job, no obstacles to me
doing my job, and if I'm really good at it,
I get promoted and stuff. I also think, so I
don't and I don't think that the coaches are gonna
get the black coaches would get extra time. I'm kind
of saying that tongue in cheek because it just doesn't
really make sense. But then the other thing is it
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actually could work as a disincentive for some teams to
hire black coaches. For instance, Eric Being to me, the
offensive coordinator for the Chiefs. He should definitely get ahead
coaching job next season, no question about it. Should be
the Jets. They better get up on it and and
do something about it. But anyway, if if if the
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Chiefs are obviously a great team, so is another competitor
going to feel some kind of way by empowering the Chiefs.
So if I hire Eric Being to me, the Texans
he'd be another another great place wherehim with Desha Watson
are the Texans. Tho't gonna be like I like being
to me. I like this other guy too. I think
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they're both pretty equal. But if I go with the
other guy, I don't have to give the Chiefs don't
get two extra draft picks. The Chiefs got enough talent
they don't need two extra draft picks, so it could
work as a disincentive. So I don't. I don't. This
is a little baffling. The way that they went robed
to me. The idea that you that you can't figure
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it out and which way it would make sense tells
you all you need to know. I just well, well,
but you don't know. You just said you don't know
which way. It just didn't say that. I just said
you said you don't this. I just said this one
doesn't make sense. I do have an idea. I was
just giving you a chance to talk. Yeah. No, I'm
talking about the idea you just said, if if it
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would be if someone would be discouraged from doing it
because they're gonna help the other team. Well, I'm just
saying the idea this isn't clear cut, right, So it
could That's what I'm talking about, that you don't you know,
you're in favor of it, but you don't even know
if that's gonna be good or bad. If a team says, well,
we're not going to do that because I'm not giving
the chiefs any other players, Okay, we don't know. So
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that that that tells me right there that that that
doesn't work. I'm just saying I've never been a part
of the whole notion. I understand about giving people equal
opportunity to stuff, but this whole idea that you know,
you got to bribe somebody to hire black people that
make up seventy percent of the workforce, I just have
a problem with it. If you're talking about other other
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jobs where where maybe we weren't it involved or we
never have been a part of it, airline pilots or whatever.
The numbers and they and they have really minuscule numbers,
and you're trying to INCENTI trying to get people into
the into the business of it. But that's our business.
I hate to break it to the owners. The NFL
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is our business. That's that is. I actually like the
first proposal better incentivizing the teams, and I and I
agree with you that it shouldn't be. It should not
be an issue. You're absolutely right. We're seventy percent of
the NFL, seventy five percent of the NBA. Hiring black
coaches and executives should not be an issue. But guess
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what it is. It's been proven that we will not
hire black coaches in represent into the numbers. And I
don't think it should be seventy percent, but it should
be much higher than three, which is what they started
the season. When they started this season, of thirty two
head coaches, three were black. Ron Rivera's a minority, so
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four were minorities, three were black. That's not even ten percent.
It should be up to the players, though I hear
what you say should be. It should be. It should
be up to the league to do the right thing.
Should be able to be great if the players took
a stand. We've talked about that before. I'm just talking
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about not working for racist people that do not hire
people who look like us. That is not their responsibilitysibilities
how you make things change. No, you got black people
in the front that work in the league office that
are saying this is how you make the change. If
you're not gonna hire blacks, then we're gonna make you
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hire blacks by incentivizing you to hire blacks. It's so
different than and let me talk. I've been letting you talk.
It's no different than the government giving tax incentives to
people that invest in minority owned businesses. It's not like
we can't do that. It's it's no different than you know,
uh SAT scores. You know, we know that some African Americans,
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including me, got into college with a lower SAT score.
But I could do the work and I was not disadvantage.
I wasn't coming up in a poor neighborhood. But my
SAT score wasn't that good. But at being black helped
me get in because it's been proven that they won't
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bring us in or hire us or whatever in less
they're forced to. And this is saying you're right, you
shouldn't be that way, but it is. And whites don't
apologize for getting quote unquote affirmative action. Is Joe Judge
when when you know all the black coaches and executives
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in the league are saying, can you believe this? Behind
closed doors, they saying, this thirty eight year old kid
who's coach special teams for ten years is getting a
head coaching job. And when they say Cliff Kingsbury, this
dude who had didn't do anything in Texas Tech just
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got a head coaching job. And Adam Gaze, who failed
in Miami miserably, just got another head coaching job. That's
affirmative action for whites. They don't apologize though they don't
feel this in Salt Team, Kyle Shannonhan you think he
thinks it's a salting because he got a job because
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his last name Shannahan. So I'm a we not apologizing.
We earned it and if you're not gonna give it
to us, didn't. Unfortunately, shame on you that we have
to put things in players to make a pipe dream.
Yeah you are that some damn draft picks are gonna
make these racist owners change their ways. Well, I don't
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believe it at all. Next year because the picks. Because
the draft picks, Chris, tell me how many black guys
are gonna be head coaches next year? Because I'm getting
a third round pick, They're still gonna do what they
may do first. And if you would have told me
you would better, And if you would have told me
that a couple of players coach would have said, Joe Judge,
the Giants would have said, we're not playing for that
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guy possibility. It is the players to make plays. The
players can make sounds happen. The players having a moment
powers and they do and they do have power. They
do have power. Rob, You're I've agreed with you on that.
You and I have both talked about that at nauseum.
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But that's how you didn't change not by draft picks.
Should not it's just body. It's a charade, Chris. It
should not be the responsibility of the player. It's great
that they do it, Chris, Ship has to White players
don't have to do it, that's right. But it's their
businesses white players. Why do the black players have to
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do it? But because you know why, Because it's their future.
It's about their future after they can't play anymore. They're
vested in it. It's about black players. It's about when
I can't play anymore and I want to go into coaching.
That's worth fighting for having a job after I can't
play or after I get injured. It's all about the players.
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It's about their future. Yeah. Look, I it's like, no
damn draft picks. It's worth a try. It's better than
what we got because right now, we got less than
ten percent of the head coaches were black when you
started the season. It's for your stun. It ain't gonna
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ain't gonna be nothing. I'm telling now, they ain't gonna
change anything. Well, they dinna make somebody's sign if you're mad,
because there's draft picks. Oh yeah, oh, let me go
get Eric b Enemy now, I'm gonna get a third
round pick. Oh my god, let me hire. Let's fill
the staff with black people now and get third round picks.
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That ain't gonna happen. So you don't do nothing. You
just sit there and be mad. I think you told
And if it what you know, if the players don't,
then what then what? Because you've been saying, the players saying, y'all,
I'm just telling you. But if you really want to
make change, and it's not the plays possibility to run
the league, it'd be great if they did, but it's not.
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iHeart Radio app. The Dallas Cowboys that some pick to
make the Super Bowl. I'm glad I wasn't in that camp.
I was. I was last year, yes, but not to No.
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I picked him to win the division though, which it's
sadly it's still because Brady took over and you you
left Dak and the lurch because Brady came to the NFC. No,
I wouldn't have picked him even if I hadn't picked Tampa.
If Tampa wasn't, who would you have picked? Probably New Orleans? Okay,
probably New Orleans. Um. But anyway, Dallas rob is two
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and seven. They're tied for the worst record with the
Washington football team in the NFC for the worst record,
and it got the third worst record in the league, which,
of course in NFL means that they would have the
third pick in the NFL draft if the season ended today.
Now there are those throwing it out there, Hey, it's
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a good quarterback draft. You might want to look at somebody.
But Jerry Jones, the owner of the Cowboys ROB is saying,
no way, no, how here's Jerry on one or five
point three in Dallas talking about that prospect. Is it
crazy to bring up the idea of taking a quarterback
with the third pick or the second pick, if you
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may have it. Yes, you asked me if it's crazy
to bring the idea of that mantrire Yes, playing games here, guys,
but it's not the thing to be talking about it all,
you know, Dak is our quarterback? All right, Rob, you
you want to tackle that first, you could do it.
Go ahead. Um, Look, I think that this is the
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smart thing to say, right if you're Jerry Jones, he
said the smart thing. He said, Dak's our quarterback. He
said that's not, you know, the thing to do. But
he also said, that's not the thing to be talking about.
He's right. They don't know how the season is going
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to end. They almost beat Pittsburgh on Sunday. What if
they win five games and then they finished with the
eleventh pick or whatever it might be, and then you
don't have a chance at Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields
and you're obviously gonna go with Dak. Now you've put
your foot in your mouth, and Dak will probably even
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want to drive the price up higher than it already
is going to be. So I think Jerry said the
right thing. But Rob, and you know, I like Dak Prescott.
But I've never said Dak Prescott is an Aaron Rodgers
or a Tom Brady or somebody that can put the
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franchise on his back. He's a franchise quarterback. I've said
he is in route to be an elite, but he's not.
And I if I'm the Dallas Cowboys Rob, if I
was Jerry Jones Stephen Jones, I'm gonna be honest, I
would be thinking if I get a chance to get
Justin Fields, if we got the second, the third, the
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fourth pick, and Justin Fields is on the board, I'm
drafting because Trevor Lawrence is not gonna be on the board.
We know that. But if I could get Trevor Lawrence
or Justin Fields, I would do it as much as
I like Dak. And here's why. Money. We know the
Cowboys have spent all this money on all these other players.
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And if they franchise Dak next year, which if they
don't get a quarterback, they should do. But if your
franchise him, it's gonna be at about thirty eight million dollars,
You're probably gonna have to cut some other guys who
are making good money, some guys that your team needs
and it also kind of hamstrings you in terms of
what else you can add in the future. And obviously
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what they have doesn't look like it's enough. And so
if you get as many of these other teams that
the Kansas City did with Pat Mahomes and Baltimore, when
you have that rookie quarterback on that rookie scale salary
not making a ton, you can build around him him better.
And we've seen Kyler Murray now to a tongue of viral.
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I'm not gonna go overboard on two. It's only been
two games. But Joe Burrow, justin Herbert, these young boys
are coming in bawling, balling, and so if I can
get one of them, yeah, I gotta be honest, I
would do it. Well. I mean, obviously the conversation is
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going to happen. Uh, it makes sense that they would
ask him about it, and uh, you know, Jerry, instead
of playing coy or saying that you know, he shouldn't
be talking about it or whatever, should just I mean,
he could play it straight. But the problem is you
think he should have. If he's thinking what I said,
you think he should say that. No, So he could
just say, we'll have to see when we get there.
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We're not there yet. That's all I mean. I'm not
gonna tell you. I'm not even that leaves you know,
you know what I'm just saying. I don't know. I
would just saying no but that. But to me, that's
realistic though I don't I don't think that that that's vigilent,
you know, like like we're not there. We don't have
a great pick for me to sit here and give
you a fantasy to make you feel good. I don't
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know what our pick will be. I don't know if
we'll catch trying at the end of the year. We're
trying to win. The Cowboys are not in the tanking.
We're trying to win every single week. If you make
that argument and say, after that's all over and we
see where we are, then we'll take a look and
see what's going to be. We're going to do what's
best for the Dallas Cowboys to deliver a championship. Who
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could argue with that, Chris nobody, nobody, But given their
history and what they've done the last quarter century, he's
probably showing his cards that they won't do anything and
that they'll just bring Dacked back and they'll overpay him.
I don't know. I you know, there was other situations
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where they could have taken other players that they were
trying to move up. And they've made some mistakes and
they've done some good things drafting. But I'm telling you,
if you're if you're terrible, if you're terrible, and you
have a chance to get a quarterback on the cheap,
and it's not just that Dak got hurt, Let's just
be honest. You guys hadn't been Dak hadn't been beating
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any of the good team where you're trying to get to,
so you could say, oh, look at the numbers. He
threw for four hundred and fifty yards and a loss.
They've been losing the last two years, even with Dak
last year. So I'm sorry. I mean, I just can't
see how you could just act as if everything's gonna
turn around or you can't take a look at somebody
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else at some point. So if I'm the Cowboys, all
my chips are on the table, I'm gonna take a
look at what's gonna be best. And I don't know
if I'm paying thirty eight million dollars for a guy
coming back off of serious injury, who hasn't hasn't beaten
good teams over the last year and a half. Yeah, Look,
Dak is far him. Their biggest problem, you know. I mean,
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their defense obviously is atrocious. Ezekiel Elliott doesn't look like
the Ezekiel Elliott of old, and the offensive line is
injured and banged up. I mean, they got a lot
of problems that are worse than Dak Prescott. You could
do much worse than Dak Prescott. But but but shouldn't
it tell you a little bit? Even though even when
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Tony Dungee said what he said, Chris, it spoke volumes
because Dak was throwing the hell out of the ball
four hundred and fifty yards fifty five hundred yards, four
or five touchdowns. He was bawling, And Tony Dungee said,
and it came off in sensitive because it was after
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an injury, right, that it might be blessing in disguise
because when they were he meant it because they're gonna
run because But but what he was saying was the
Cowboys were better when it was about Dak Prescott. I mean,
when it was about his feel Elliott, they were That's
when they went to the playoffs. That's when they beat Seattle. Chris,
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It's true. No, I look, I agree, I mean, can
I do think you could win a super Bowl with
Dak Prescott, like if you're strong as all get out
everywhere else, Because we've seen Rob pretty good, court, Joe Flacco,
a Brad Johnson, we've seen quarterback Trent Diler. But overall,
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he's a you know, he's he's pretty good. He's not great,
but I mean, you know, it happens. I'm just saying
in general, they aren't. You don't always need a superstar
quarterback to win the Super Bowl. And I do think
Dak is a winner. I think he's got good intangibles.
I think he's a leader, and I think he's good
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enough physically with the arm, with the legs to help
you win a super Bowl. But he is not going
to just put the team on his back like some
of these really awesome quarterbacks are where if you're Kansas City,
if you're a Green Bay, if you're you know, uh, Baltimore,
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if you're even now Arizona and some of these other teams,
you're not thinking about a quarterback that is not that.
And again, I like him, but he's not that I've
never said tried to say he's that. He's not. And
even when he was at his best, Rob, you still
got what one playoff win. So no matter how much
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you like Dak, you can't nobody can sit here and say,
if they get a chance to draft a quarterback who
looks like he'll be at least as good as that
and possibly better and he's gonna cost you a lot
less money, you can't say, well, you know, definitely we're
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not looking at that that's not even signed. If that
had accepted that contract five years thirty three conversation, right
then you're having a different conversation. Yeah, so we'll see.
I mean, like you said, I think they're trying to
win games. Obviously they almost beat Pittsburgh. But what could
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be a blessing in disguise for them as if they
end up getting one of the top picks and having
a shot at one of those top quarterbacks, because you know,
then then you won't have to be tied up with
all the Dack's money and you can spend it elsewhere
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was on ESPN First Take today and he was talking
about Carson Wentz and Nick Foles, and here's what he said.
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I actually he thought that they should have kept Nick
Foles rather than Carson Wentz, just based off of production
and where they got to. You know, they won a
super Bowl with Foles and that was a little bit surprising.
But they're obviously banking on his upside. You know, how
many more years do you you let it linger before
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you you stick with him? Where you cut bait? That's
a question they only can answer. Rob. This came at
an odd time, obviously, because it's the most ridiculous take
I've heard. And I didn't see First Take this morning, Chris,
But I hope that somebody pushed back. I hope that
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they updated Brett Farve on what's going on currently because
it doesn't sound like it. Yeah. I don't know if
they did or not. I didn't see it either, but
that's the thing, the timing of this had he said this,
Yeah he did. In fairness to him, he did say
it last year. But Nick Foles is struggling mightily in Chicago,
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and this is after struggling mightily in Jacksonville. He got
bench last year. It is Brett farm not remember that, Chris.
My thing is I get it that he said it before,
but to repeat that now after he got the contract
in Jacksonville, right, and he failed and he got bench
and he gets the job. He has that big game.
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Let's not forget that big game came against Atlanta and
everybody beat Atlanta, right, So maybe it wasn't that big
of a deal when you think about it. And ever
since they gave him the job, he's been awful. He's
been bad, Yeah, because Nick Foles. It just is what
he did. And look in fairness to him, and even
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far of in this case, falls had a great run.
Foles had a magnificent run in Philadelphia when route to
that Super Bowl, and even the next year he was good.
But you gotta understand what Nick Foles is and he's
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proven it time and time again. I could equate it
to Robert Doory. Robert Doory hit some humongoa shots in
the playoffs in the finals for the Spurs, for the Rockets,
for the Lakers. But Robert Ory wasn't a great regular
(28:31):
season player. He was a guy that's played his best
ball in the playoffs. He was a guy. And I
say there's respectfully, but there are some guys that like
like they don't want that pressure or they don't play
well under that pressure of having to deliver game in
(28:54):
and game out. There are a lot of guys in
the NBA that have a great game here there a
great season, particularly in a contract year, but then when
they get the big money or when you people start
counting on them. I need you to give me twenty
three points and nine rebounds a night like you did
(29:15):
last year when nobody expected it from you, And once
the expectations are on them, they can't deliver it. And
that's Nick Foles. Rob It's yes, yes, it's happened. Chris.
I know I've said it a million times. He's fine
when you lend them the keys to go get some milk,
(29:36):
but when you give him the car, he crashes it.
That that that Jacksonville job was supposed to be perfect
for him, right They needed a quarterback. Couldn't hold on
to that in Chicago, Oh, let's make the change. They
drafted Mitch Trubisky, right, didn't they did? They trade up
for him, trade it up together, They trade it up
(29:58):
for him. And now that they subbed you out and
they basically say, Mitch, whatever, thanks, no thanks, We're gonna
move on. And you still can't make them like that
was the right decision. Now that question and what what
what did they do that? It tells you all you
need to know. Yeah, when you look at folds Um
(30:21):
the back the years he's come in because the starter
got hurt, he's been very good eight and two in
twenty thirteen, when he came in six and two and
twenty fourteen. But then he goes to Saint Louis right there,
thinking that this guy looks good, stood right, and he
(30:42):
goes four and seven. Now, yeah, he had Jeff Fisher,
but still he went four and seven, goes to Kansas City,
only starts one game one and oh h goes to
Philadelphia behind Carson Wentz and we all know what happen.
He came in and made magic. He made Bubby never
duplicate that great Super Bowl game. He made it. And
(31:02):
even though the whole run, Yeah, he went to the
regular seasons, yea. Yeah. And then and he did it
the next year. I mean they didn't get to the
super Bowl obviously, but he played well. But again it
was the same situation. The season's over, Carson's hurt. You know,
nothing's expected anything. We get his gravy and he delivered.
But then he, as you said, it goes to Jacksonville,
(31:22):
starts oh and four, gets benched. Now in Chicago two
and four in the games he started rob and I honestly,
I think they should go to Trubisky. So you're ready
to make the chance this, yeah, And then that's funny.
They got a great because you gotta shift. You could
shift the offense around him, you know, do what he
can do. You got the great defense, play ball control.
(31:43):
That's what I think. But but but that's what I'm saying, Chris.
You're talking about making a change. And like I said,
we didn't see the show, so I'm gonna be fair, Okay, right,
but if I was on that show, I would have
been like, dude, have you watched uh, have you watched
Nick Foles lately? Do you? Like seriously, like we're talking
about him, right, you just bring up that what we
(32:06):
just said to Farve Brett, this is a guy that's
proven that when it's expected. Yes, like you said, right,
when he's given the keys, he just don't want it.
And there are guys like that. There are there plenty
of guys, Chris. We talked about it. You mentioned the NBA.
There are guys who, uh and you've watched them, don't
(32:27):
want the ball at the end of the game, Chris.
They're they're they're defending the defender. Yeah, you know what
I'm talking about. They're defending the defender because they want right,
they want no part of it, right right, Hot potato,
Hot potato. But yeah, it's it was just interesting timing
for Brett Farve. Now now he said I thought they
(32:50):
should have gone and fall if you want to try
to you know, did he possibly mean you know at
that time, but not now. But he did go on
and look went went does have to play better and
wins it said that. Obviously he's got a lot of injuries, um,
and that's hurt him. But he has not been that
(33:11):
guy that started eleven and two, and as you've said before,
he was on the MVP pace and ever since he
got injured and then Folds of course came in. But
you know, he's had moments because last year had a moment,
you know, when he got them to the playoffs, but
he might have been that consistent guy did. Here's my
only thing. We don't know what Carson Wentz is gonna
(33:35):
be ultimately Chris and if he's gonna win one or whatever.
We don't, okay, but we kind of we know what
Nick Foles is and we do we do know and
that's the difference. And I'm not saying that he can't
get hot. And when you're three or four games and
he was great and we saw it. Yes, we gave
you the parade, we threw the confetti, acc build a statue, right,
(33:56):
all of that. But but but his career was kind
of carved out, don't We don't we know what he is?
Oh yeah,
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