December 2, 2020 • 33 mins
Chris and Rob get into a heated debate about whether or not the 11-0 Pittsburgh Steelers are legitimate Super Bowl contenders, and argue if the addition of Russell Westbrook makes the Washington Wizards a playoff team in the East. Plus, 4x Super Bowl champion Charlie Weis swings by to share his thoughts on all the biggest NFL headlines
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Pittsburgh nineteen, Baltimore fourteen,
now Baltimore, of course, I mean it's coming off. They
hardly could practice for the past week or so. They
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define they didn't have Lamar Jackson. They had to start
RG three Robert Griffin the third and we'll get into
him later, but hit he was horrific, horrific, although he
did have one nice run, my goodness talking about it
far from grace. But anyway, Uh, he was bad. But
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the Steelers won. And now Rob they are eleven and old.
And I gotta give props to Mike Tomlin. He remember
a few years ago it was all the rage was
to rip Mike Tomlin. He's shaky, he didn't know what
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he's doing. What are you talking about? Right? That's what
I'm talking about, you know, but when you look at
what Antonio Brown's done away from Pittsburgh, as far as
you know, the trouble he's caused, you gotta get I
think you give Mike Tomlin credit for you know, handling
that for several years. Uh what's his name? Levian Bell
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has not done a thing outside of Pittsburgh. Now, obviously
he's with the Jets, so he didn't have much blocking,
but still he hasn't done anything outside of Pittsburgh and
a team that last year they went eight and eight
without Ben Roethlisberger for the most part, with no quarterback,
and now they're eleven and old with an old Ben Roethlisberger. Rob,
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I gotta get Mike Timelin props, But that's not the story.
You you you you you you you are. I'm gonna
do you. I'm gonna do you. Stop it. They are
the worst eleven and old team I've ever seen in
the National Football League. And then nicknames Steelers is right
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because they're stealing and acting as if there's some juggernaut
they're not. The performance they put on today was shameful.
Through three quarters, they led ten to nothing, hadn't scored
an offensive touchdown against the Baltimore Ravens, who were without
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eighteen players Chris and had a quarterback who hadn't played
since Moby Dick was a guppy. I mean, let's just
be honest. I'm getting tired, all right, I'll find something else.
I need a new writer. My bottom line known you
my bottom line. You may say that this Fred knew
you that. My bottom line is that if you're if
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you're the Steelers and you want to rejoice and feel good,
and my team is eleven and old, and I've looked
at their schedule. I saw that piss poor win against
the Dallas Cowboys. I saw that other game against the
Ravens where the Ravens turned the ball over four times,
so Pittsburgh can win by four and we could go
through up and down the schedule. I get it. You
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gotta play was in front of you. But when you
talk about what they did today, they should have demolished
the Ravens, who were ravaged by COVID nineteen, who weren't
able to practice, who had to turn to a quarterback
at that been exiled from playing in the National Football League.
And that's the stinker you turn in. That's your afternoon delight.
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I wouldn't skip work. I'd rather go back to work
and work a double shift if that's my afternoon delight.
It didn't do a thing for me. It didn't move
the world. I didn't feel good after it. I didn't
want a cigarette or baby oil. I wanted nothing to
do with that. It was awful, Chris. The Pittsburgh Stealers
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should be ashamed in themselves. What the worst eleven and
old team in NFL history. And if they think they're
going to challenge the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC
will win a super Bowl with this team, you could
forget about it. This is gonna be a regular season, Charlie.
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That's what this will be. And they will go just
like they have in years gone by under the great
Mike Tomlin and go play a real AFC team and
get their clocks clean because they're not winning anything. Playing
the way that they played today today was an embarrassment.
All right, all right, all right, give give him an
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give him her hand. He he's proud of himself. Yeah, yeah,
he stood up. The only thing that was missing was
the patriotic music or the dirt dirt bad boy music. No,
we're good, We're good. We don't want to. I'll give
you this, Rob Parker. You had a few good lines
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in there, a few funny lines in there. And I
don't often get to say that, but you had a
few funny lines in there outside of that. Stop it?
Are you kiddy? I'm disappointed in you, Rob Parker. You've
been how long you been a sportswriter forty years? Thirty
five coming up on thirty five? Five years. You've covered
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enough professional games, whether it's baseball, basketball, football, to know
that it's a short menu wins and losses. A win
is a win is a win. That's it. You have
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bad weeks, you have bad Sundays, you have bad Monday nights,
and you definitely have bad Wednesday afternoons. But you shouldn't
put too much into it if you win. Green Bay
had a bad Sunday against Tampa Bay. Are they done?
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New Orleans had a bad Sunday against Green Bay? Are
they done? No? You shouldn't know. But you sound like
a novice. You sound like a guy who's been covering
prep sports for four years and you just got to
the NFL. Don't talk about your career. I can't believe
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you and you want to talk about strength of schedule.
First of all, your pick, your pick, mister Rod Parker
to get to the Super Bowl. The hockless Baltimore Ravens.
The Steelers swept him and you right off the day
all you want, because they had RG three at the quarterback.
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But they beat the Ravens like a drum earlier in
the season. And you keep throwing this all the Ravens
had to give them four turn those eight twenty eight
to twenty four is a drum, Chris. If you remember
the game, park was completely in control. Yeah, bade them
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turn it over. They cannock their lunch money. They grabbed
them by the collar, threw them up against the wall
and said, give me that change and your Super Bowl pick.
Tuck Tale and Ran Can I give you their schedule.
I want you to listen to this schedule. This is
the eleven and old Pittsburgh Steelers. They beat the Giants
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under five hundred, They beat Denver under five hundred, They
beat the Texans under five hundred, they beat the Eagles
under five hundred. They beat the Ravens twice and right,
and they beat Dallas under five hundred. They beat Cincinnati
under five hundred. They beat Shackonville under five hundred. You
know many teams they've beat Chris they have a winning
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ncor They only have to You only have to wins. No,
you're wrong, you're doctoring the list. They beat Tennessee when
Tennessee was five and old and Tennessee and Tennessee missed
the field goal. But if you remember that game, Patrol
was winning big time and they never him. Come back
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game Tennessee, Parker, don't give me short menu. It's eleven
wins if come against teams over five hundred. It's not
just the short menu when it suits your narrative. It's
a short menu, period. And they beat Tennessee held Derek
Henry the seventy five yards on twenty tots, twenty carries.
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Who does that? They beat Baltimore twice. They beat Cleveland
which is eight and three. Knock the snot out of Cleveland.
They have beaten three teams with winning records. And you
want to rip schedules, Let's rip some schedules because Green Bay.
Guess how many teams they've beaten with winning records one,
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Seattle two, New Orleans two or one? Really, Tampa Bay twice.
So get off your hide horse. The Steelers. They beat
more teams with winning records than most of the contenders
you play with in front of you. And they've watched twos.
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In one of them there were fraudulent eleven and no.
Because of the schedule. This is a schule. It is
a schedule eleven and schedule is full of bad teams.
Steelers are craud I'll give you this. I mean, obviously
I think Kansas City is much better. I'll give you
when I think of the undefeated teams that come to mind.
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I mean, you had the Colts under Tony Dungee. They
were better than this Steelers team. You had the Patriots
with Randy Moss and Tom Brady they were better than
this Steelers team. And you had obviously the Dolphins in
seventy two. Was that Coloch team was Jim Carwell. That
was fortune. Okay, you had to so I'll give you.
I mean, I'm not saying this is some historically great
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team in oh wild they're eleven and oh. I'm just
saying give them. You gotta give them the respect they deserved.
They are Nobody thinks they're gonna be Kansas City. They
might not even be Tennessee again. But you gotta give
them credit for what they've done. That's all I'm saying,
especially when they have treated your your super Bowl pick
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like a bunch of Patsy's. That's right, I said it.
In fact, Alex, give me the bongos. Alex, don't do that,
hey seven seven ninety seven seven nine nine sixty three.
Give Chris just because Chris is. He's so needy, he's
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always begging for it. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker
weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. He's a four
time Super Bowl champion. Now he's in our line of
work for Serious XM NFL Radio. Charlie Weiss, Charlie, welcome
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to the US up. Charlie. Yeah, yeah, I'm officially. I'm
officially a loser now I'm on the I was gonna say,
you don't sound too proud about He sounds like he's wow, Charlie,
is that what you're losers? And I'll tell you what.
You know, what's good? I get up in the morning
because of satellite radio for I'm serious. I get up
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going on a computer for a while, then I get
to talk about NFL football till lunchtime every day. So
the good life, good work, if you can get it.
That's right. You're living in South Florida. You're wearing a
pair of shorts and a T shirt with no shoes on,
and you know so, I mean, who can complain about that?
I mean, no complaining, jolie. I'm complaining though, after this
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game that we saw this afternoon delight, I think it
was supposed to be, but it wound up being a disaster.
I think the Pittsburgh Steelers are the worst eleven and
old team I've ever seen. The Ravens were down eighteen
players with COVID had to start start RG three who
hadn't he hadn't played in years, and looked terrible doing it,
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and barely beat them and just looked awful. What is
up with the Steelers is are they as good as
that eleven and old record? Or is that because of
that easy schedule that they have? Well? Two things. Is
there anyone in the free world that's objective that wasn't
pulling for Baltimore at the end of the game. I
mean it would have been nice. If I don't root,
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I don't root for anyone, and I was, and I
was rooting hard for Baltimore. You know, on that third
on that pacity floated up there that they got the
first down on, I was hoping that was intercepted. They
took it in and won the game. I said, what
poetic justice would that have them? Because and when you're
a really good football team, I mean, you never apologize
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for a win. I'm sure you know that that's going
to be the party line come out of Pittsburgh. But
when you're a really good football team, you don't play
down two opponents this often. Now, psychologically you do occasionally,
you know, because you can't get up for every week,
regardless that what people think. It's impossible, but so psychologically
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there are going to be let down throughout the year.
But there's just too many games for a team that's
eleven and oh there's too many games where Pittsburgh, let's
the opponent, you know, have a chance to win the game.
And it's going to come back to sloppy in the
face when it's all said and done. No doubt about
Rob mentioned RG three and obviously several years now removed
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from his rookie year. But how does a guy, I
mean even you know, immediately after he came back, he
just was never the same player. How does a guy
going go from taking the league by storm to like
what looks like even a bad backup at this point. Well,
the only thing, it's probably the only team in the
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league where he fits. So I think when you when
you're a team like the Ravens and are going to
run an offense like the ray Evans are running, it's
not necessarily getting the best back up, it's getting a
guy who fits what they do. Now, unfortunately, he doesn't
have much much left much, you know, in the passing game.
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You know, McSorley might have been a better answer to
use in the game, to be honest with you. But
but that being said, it's the one place where if
you're looking for a poor man's lamar, that's what he has.
He's a poor man's lamar. So, I mean, it's the
only I can't see him playing for another team, another
offense in the league based on you know what I
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see out there right now, Charlie. Did Tom Brady not
do his due diligence or realize what he was getting involved?
In when he decided to go to Tampa and play
for Bruce Arians. Bruce Arians has aired out players before.
This is not new like what he's done publicly, and
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all the guys who play for him all suffered through
their career most interceptions because he likes to air the
ball down. Feel uh And now you know you look
at Brady people thinking Bruce Arians is and using them correctly,
and and they're appalled that Bruce Arians has called him
out because he hasn't played well. What do you make
of this relationship? And and Tom Brady picking Tampa. Well,
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I hammered all over Arians here in the last couple
of weeks because what head coach. I don't care how
much of a loose scanning you are with media, what
head coach throws his quarterback publicly under the bus? I mean,
I've never heard of it before. Have you ever heard
of it before? Well, Bruce Arians, but I've never I've
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never heard of it before. Hey, look it, here's the deal. Okay,
when things go bad, I've been I've been an offensive coordinator,
I've been a head coach. When things go bad, you
stand up there and say it all starts with me,
and it rolls downhill from here. I have to go back.
I can review this, but I obviously didn't do a
good enough job. That's what you say publicly, Okay, Then
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you go get all the information, you go watch the tape,
you talk to all the assistance, you talk to the players,
you make sure you know, you know that any communication
issues that came up, and then you levy. You know,
you're lower the you know you're you go lower the punches,
you know, but those should all be privately, they shouldn't
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be publicly. I don't get it, and I can't see
any intrinsic value it brings to your team when you're
doing that publicly publicly. I mean, if it makes them
feel good, fine, but I'm totally opposed to that attact. Now, Charlie,
the story came out. I think Brady even said it
came out today that their relationship is fine between him
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and arians. But you know time obviously you spend time
with him in New England. How do you think he
is taking this? I mean, he's professional, obviously, is he
going to play and play the best he can? But
you know what I mean, like inside, how do you
think this is bothering him or is he really just
been Chriss, what let me ask you a question, Chris,
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what would you expect him to say? Right? You know,
he's not gonna pay, He's not going to go there.
I mean I was with that organization since, you know,
since we first went to New England. That's just not
the way that the business was ever done. Every hand
one handled it, you know, and everyone handled it professionally. Now,
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anyone who knows Tommy one bit, your question is rhetorical
because you know what he's thinking. You don't have to
ask me. You don't have to have been around him,
you don't need to know him. You just know what
guys like this are like, and they don't like it
one bit. You know it, I know it. And you'll
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never hear one word out him publicly about this subject.
How about the idea that you know, this thing ends badly,
or maybe they get knocked out in the first round,
or they don't somehow don't make the playoffs or whatever.
Is there any chance that maybe tom doesn't come back
for a year or two, or as Bruce arians fired
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after this year, if things don't work out and there's
a rub because one of those guys not be back
if this thing ends badly, look look at. I don't know,
I don't know you know who makes all the decisions
in Tampa. But I can tell you this, Tommy will
walk away when he thinks she doesn't happen anymore. And
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until that he's going to keep playing. So as long
as he thinks that he can play at a high
level and have a chance to win championships, so'll keep playing.
The day he thinks that he's starting to fall off
the wall, like everyone thinks he's falling off the wall,
he can't throw the ball twenty yards down the field
that was to complaint a week ago. Right then he
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goes throws three or four completions twenty yards down the field,
and we don't we are raised that one again. I mean,
but when when he feels when hey, look at, he'll
walk away. Not because of the situation. He'll walk away
what he thinks that he can't do it anymore. Charlie,
we got about a minute left. I want to get
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from you right now. Who's the best team in the
NFC and then the AFC. Who do you think is
the best challenger biggest challenger to Kansas City? Um? I
think I think the leader in the clubhouse in the
NFC is Green Bays slash New Orleans. You know, although
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I'm not really sold on Green Bay's defense. I mean,
you watch Green Bay is I think is underestimated by
a lot of people. But so I think it's Green
Bay slash New Orleans. And what was the question about
the AFC, who's the biggest challenge of the Kansas City.
I don't know if there is the biggest challenger. They're
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pretty their head and shoulders above the rest. I mean,
I mean, you could say Pittsburgh, but I think I
think it's a I think it's a one horse race.
That's what I think. Well by default, because the Steelers are,
to me, are fraudulent. They're the worst eleven and old
team I've ever seen. You know, there's a couple of
dangerous teams that literally don't want to play. Tennessee is dangerous.
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You know, Buffalo could be dangerous, Miami could be dangerous.
I mean, there's some teams that can be dangerous. But
in reality, you know, in reality, I think Kansas City's
clearly the best team. I think they're clearly the best
team in football. All right, that's Charlie White. Super Bowl
Champ check him out on Serious XM NFL Radio. Charlie,
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thanks a lot, all right, take care of Be sure
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Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four
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Breaking news, the Houston Rockets trade Russell Westbrook to the
Washington Wizards for John Wall in a first round draft pick.
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Wow wow. Now obviously, Rob, remember this came out well
maybe two two and a half weeks ago, shortly after
the news broke that Westbrook wanted out. This came out
as a possibility, and I said at the time, and
I feel this way. Good move for Washington. Good move.
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Now you're not winning a championship, but in the Eastern
Conference robe with Russell Westbrook and Bradley Bill. Now, Bill,
did you know with wal hurt? Bill got used to
handling the ball. I think he averaged six assists last year.
He was he was. He turned into a nice little playmaker.
But he obviously is a very good shooter. Can play
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off the ball. Westbrook will create all types of you know,
havoc and draw double teams and get Bill open shots.
So that's a nice duo in the East. That Look,
if you're Washington, you've been irrelevant for a long time,
you probably get into the playoffs. And so you know,
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the contract is the same as Walls. I think they
both have three years by one thirty left on it,
one thirty one, so good for them. For Houston man
Walls coming off the knee injury then he got hurt
with the achilles during his rehab, he's probably I mean
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could he and I mean obviously like he has the
ball in his hands. So the question is, does this
mean they're gonna trade Harden if I'm them, not necessarily,
I'm not just getting rid of. In fact, now I
got John Wall now for three years a huge money.
So do I keep Harden and try to compete. Look,
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if I get blown away with an offer, then yeah,
I'll trade Hardened. But for now I'm probably saying, look y'all,
we're gonna work it out, you know. But it's interesting
they're not a fit either. I mean, Wall can't really shoot.
He's used to having the ball in his hand, so
that's really no better. I actually think, as crazy as
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this might say, Westbrook might have been a better fit
with hardened because at least he gives you a different look.
I think it's bad all the way around, and a
if I'm a Rocket season ticket holder, they basically through
the towel in and uh, you know, like that trade
because I don't think that makes him any better and
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then you give them Do you think it definitely makes
them worse? Yeah? I do. John Wall's like, I think
it makes them worse. I agree, I think. I mean,
he just hasn't been healthy and he's got other issues
Chris that's gone on with with Washington after they signed
them to that big deal. I bet you if you
could be yeah, yeah, I'm just saying it's just been
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a bad look all the way around, Okay, the whole thing.
And he's not one of the players who you feel
good about when you get him on your team. You
could have sympathy for a guy who's been through through
some issues health wise. John Wall doesn't come off to
me that way. I'm just telling you the whey. If
I'm a Rocket fan, what did John Wall do to you? Nothing?
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He didn't do anything to me. I just wouldn't feel
good about it if I was a Rocket, I do.
I don't think they did anything great for the organization.
I think they they said, you take our garbage, your garbage.
That pig better be great, that pig better be like
only top three protected or something. I mean, really, I'm
sure I'm good, but sure it is it doesn't fit,
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you know what I mean, Like, I agree with you
as much as I didn't Westbrook and hard and obviously
didn't fit. But at least they gave you different looks,
different things to worry about, and so you know, you
could be a decent playoff team in the West. But
I don't think they can be. I don't know that
they can beat that, especially without D'Antoni. And here's the
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other part. If you're Westbrook, you're officially been dumped, like
like seriously, like they sent you to like one of
the worst teams for one of the worst guys in
the league. Like and I know Bill is there, Chris,
he's a good player, but really, like, like, okay, you're
being dumped to the Washington Generals. That's what just happened
to you. No, the Washington Wizards, No Washington Generals. That's
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what I said that you oh, you you gonna really
tell me they have no shot at making the playoffs. No,
I don't think so. Really, I shot, I'm not guaranteeing it. Really. No,
it's the East right now. I know the East has
gotten better. The East isn't what it was a few
years ago. I I it's you know, Milwaukee's tough, Brooklyn obviously, Philadelphia, Boston, Miami,
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Indiana's okay, that's six or with teams. No, that's ay.
You just how many teams. Indiana was seven? If you
go okay those, that's seven teams. So there's one spot
for Washington, Charlotte, Orlando. That's what I'm saying, Man, Chris
or Atlant has made all these debases as well. Okay, Atlanta,
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but is not guaranteed either. Like what they've done. They've
done some really nice things. That's what I'm saying. I
would take them. But I think Washington's got a shot.
I don't think. I don't think Washington's making the playoffs.
And I think you're basically if you're if you're Westbrook,
you gotta feel like they put you out the pasture,
like you're going to like one of the worst organizations
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that can't get it right, just as floundering. You got
to me it wasn't like, oh, a new change of scenery.
This is gonna be great for me. If I'm Westbrook,
I feel like I got dumped. I got dumped. I
got sent to NBA Siberia. That's what Washington in this
NBA Siberia, and that's where Westbrook is now. And NOWA
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because I'm tight, No, I'm serious, Chris, no here. But okay,
I hear you, Rob, and again I'll give him a shot.
I do like a landa better, but I am not
back in office. Washington has a shot to make the playoffs.
Now they'll get bounced quick fasting in a hurry. But
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they got a shot to make the playoffs. But I
hear where you're coming from. But here's the problem. If
Westbrook didn't know this, shame on him, Rob. No where
else was he going. We all we were trying to think.
Rack our brains. Okay, he should have kept his mouth
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shut and stayed in Houston. Get to the second round
of the playoffs. Be exciting, be dynamic, be must TV.
You know they made you know, I don't know if
I wasn't gonna say, they might be playing on Christmas.
But you know him and Harden with you know, teams
you want to watch. They were a duo you wanted
to watch. And now no contender wanted him. No bad
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team that you know was was had a bunch of
young stuff, so you had to where else. New York
Timbodo wanted him because Timberdot was a coach, right, and
he wants the best players he can get to win
in that moment. But the front office was like, nah no,
because you know what, Chris, if they if the Knicks
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did that, they would be right back in the same
pegree keep doing it. And you gotta break out of
that habit if you're ever gonna win a championship since
nineteen seventy three, My god, you can't do it. And
you're right. The coach always wants talent, no matter what.
I'll get him. I'll whip him in the shape I'll
get him. Eric Rose right, I'll put a bunch of
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defenders in right, play hard around him, and he'll be
the stud. You know, but I hear you're right, Rob,
I mean going to Washington. Obviously it's nothing. He was
in a better situation in Houston. He's in the worst situation,
in the worst situation, and now you know what, like
like Chris, you want to talk about both of us.
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We praised Westbrook because when he got those triple doubles,
especially when it's ok seat, they used to win, right,
And now he's gonna be putting up numbers for a
team that doesn't win, and it might like like water
down the way you look at him, like just just
like they were relevant. Yeah, he had a triple double.
They lost again. I'm telling you, this is like the
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worst thing. He's not an old guy. These are like
the next three years it could be could be horrible
for him playing in that spot, especially where the East
is and who knows. I just I have no good
feelings about the Wizards. Just I'm or down. I hear again.
I'm not gonna act sit here and act like he's
going to a tremendous situation. But I think that wall
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is in much worse, a much worse situation. Like Rustbrook
probably is done playing significant playoff games for the rest
of his career. Where Jane ain't good. I give you that,
But Westbrook in the East still has a good shot
at making All Star teams. And I know that's not
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what it's all about, but but that does mean something,
means something to players, mean something to your legacy. He
still can put up numbers, probably make all star teams.
Is Ji Wall making an All Star team in the West?
Nohow right? Right? I mean it's not even gonna go together, right,
You're right, Chris, it's going to it's going to clash.
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It's going to be an issue. If I'm James Hard
and I'm like, what what did you just do? Yeah? Seriously,
I want out, double out right now, you really want out.
But the thing is, I still and I want your
opinion on this. I still if I'm Houston, I'm not
saying I won't trade him. I will trade him if
I get a good deal. But I'm still not giving
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him away just to get rid of him. No, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't give him away. He's a talent. And when
people do buy tickets again, Chris, if they ever do, right,
he's worth the price of admission, Like, like, this is
a business too, right, Let's be honest. Absolutely absolutely, it's
a business. You got it all time? Great, you know what,
I don't just give him away for some kids and
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a bag of balls and go, well we'll just go
this route. No, No, you won't, especially when you got
John Wall locked up for the next three years, you
know what I'm saying, Like, man, it's I don't really
understand why Houston did again that pick better be something special.
They might have been just tired of Westbrook and just said,
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you know what, we just we're not going to go
through this, you know what I mean? And you know
they got a new GM down there, coach and coach, right,
and they probably just said, dude, you know what, I've
always believed in this, Chris, And I'm with you, though
I don't. I wouldn't give anybody away, but I don't
even want people want to be be with me, Like like,
if you don't want if you don't want to be,
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you're not gonna get the best out of people when
they don't want to be where they are. You know,
as soon as you let me know you know you
don't want to be here, then fine. I mean, you know,
when Rob g wanted to go to seven ten or whatever,
you know, we're like, like, good, dude, please, here's the door.
Don't let you don't let the door hit you where
the good lords. You know, I'm gonna bring up all
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Pittsburgh nineteen, Baltimore fourteen,
now Baltimore, of course, I mean it's coming off. They
hardly could practice for the past week or so. They
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define they didn't have Lamar Jackson. They had to start
RG three Robert Griffin the third and we'll get into
him later, but hit he was horrific, horrific, although he
did have one nice run, my goodness talking about it
far from grace. But anyway, Uh, he was bad. But
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the Steelers won. And now Rob they are eleven and old.
And I gotta give props to Mike Tomlin. He remember
a few years ago it was all the rage was
to rip Mike Tomlin. He's shaky, he didn't know what
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he's doing. What are you talking about? Right? That's what
I'm talking about, you know, but when you look at
what Antonio Brown's done away from Pittsburgh, as far as
you know, the trouble he's caused, you gotta get I
think you give Mike Tomlin credit for you know, handling
that for several years. Uh what's his name? Levian Bell
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has not done a thing outside of Pittsburgh. Now, obviously
he's with the Jets, so he didn't have much blocking,
but still he hasn't done anything outside of Pittsburgh and
a team that last year they went eight and eight
without Ben Roethlisberger for the most part, with no quarterback,
and now they're eleven and old with an old Ben Roethlisberger. Rob,
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I gotta get Mike Timelin props, But that's not the story.
You you you you you you you are. I'm gonna
do you. I'm gonna do you. Stop it. They are
the worst eleven and old team I've ever seen in
the National Football League. And then nicknames Steelers is right
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because they're stealing and acting as if there's some juggernaut
they're not. The performance they put on today was shameful.
Through three quarters, they led ten to nothing, hadn't scored
an offensive touchdown against the Baltimore Ravens, who were without
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eighteen players Chris and had a quarterback who hadn't played
since Moby Dick was a guppy. I mean, let's just
be honest. I'm getting tired, all right, I'll find something else.
I need a new writer. My bottom line known you
my bottom line. You may say that this Fred knew
you that. My bottom line is that if you're if
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you're the Steelers and you want to rejoice and feel good,
and my team is eleven and old, and I've looked
at their schedule. I saw that piss poor win against
the Dallas Cowboys. I saw that other game against the
Ravens where the Ravens turned the ball over four times,
so Pittsburgh can win by four and we could go
through up and down the schedule. I get it. You
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gotta play was in front of you. But when you
talk about what they did today, they should have demolished
the Ravens, who were ravaged by COVID nineteen, who weren't
able to practice, who had to turn to a quarterback
at that been exiled from playing in the National Football League.
And that's the stinker you turn in. That's your afternoon delight.
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I wouldn't skip work. I'd rather go back to work
and work a double shift if that's my afternoon delight.
It didn't do a thing for me. It didn't move
the world. I didn't feel good after it. I didn't
want a cigarette or baby oil. I wanted nothing to
do with that. It was awful, Chris. The Pittsburgh Stealers
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should be ashamed in themselves. What the worst eleven and
old team in NFL history. And if they think they're
going to challenge the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC
will win a super Bowl with this team, you could
forget about it. This is gonna be a regular season, Charlie.
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That's what this will be. And they will go just
like they have in years gone by under the great
Mike Tomlin and go play a real AFC team and
get their clocks clean because they're not winning anything. Playing
the way that they played today today was an embarrassment.
All right, all right, all right, give give him an
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give him her hand. He he's proud of himself. Yeah, yeah,
he stood up. The only thing that was missing was
the patriotic music or the dirt dirt bad boy music. No,
we're good, We're good. We don't want to. I'll give
you this, Rob Parker. You had a few good lines
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in there, a few funny lines in there. And I
don't often get to say that, but you had a
few funny lines in there outside of that. Stop it?
Are you kiddy? I'm disappointed in you, Rob Parker. You've
been how long you been a sportswriter forty years? Thirty
five coming up on thirty five? Five years. You've covered
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enough professional games, whether it's baseball, basketball, football, to know
that it's a short menu wins and losses. A win
is a win is a win. That's it. You have
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bad weeks, you have bad Sundays, you have bad Monday nights,
and you definitely have bad Wednesday afternoons. But you shouldn't
put too much into it if you win. Green Bay
had a bad Sunday against Tampa Bay. Are they done?
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New Orleans had a bad Sunday against Green Bay? Are
they done? No? You shouldn't know. But you sound like
a novice. You sound like a guy who's been covering
prep sports for four years and you just got to
the NFL. Don't talk about your career. I can't believe
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you and you want to talk about strength of schedule.
First of all, your pick, your pick, mister Rod Parker
to get to the Super Bowl. The hockless Baltimore Ravens.
The Steelers swept him and you right off the day
all you want, because they had RG three at the quarterback.
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But they beat the Ravens like a drum earlier in
the season. And you keep throwing this all the Ravens
had to give them four turn those eight twenty eight
to twenty four is a drum, Chris. If you remember
the game, park was completely in control. Yeah, bade them
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turn it over. They cannock their lunch money. They grabbed
them by the collar, threw them up against the wall
and said, give me that change and your Super Bowl pick.
Tuck Tale and Ran Can I give you their schedule.
I want you to listen to this schedule. This is
the eleven and old Pittsburgh Steelers. They beat the Giants
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under five hundred, They beat Denver under five hundred, They
beat the Texans under five hundred, they beat the Eagles
under five hundred. They beat the Ravens twice and right,
and they beat Dallas under five hundred. They beat Cincinnati
under five hundred. They beat Shackonville under five hundred. You
know many teams they've beat Chris they have a winning
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ncor They only have to You only have to wins. No,
you're wrong, you're doctoring the list. They beat Tennessee when
Tennessee was five and old and Tennessee and Tennessee missed
the field goal. But if you remember that game, Patrol
was winning big time and they never him. Come back
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game Tennessee, Parker, don't give me short menu. It's eleven
wins if come against teams over five hundred. It's not
just the short menu when it suits your narrative. It's
a short menu, period. And they beat Tennessee held Derek
Henry the seventy five yards on twenty tots, twenty carries.
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Who does that? They beat Baltimore twice. They beat Cleveland
which is eight and three. Knock the snot out of Cleveland.
They have beaten three teams with winning records. And you
want to rip schedules, Let's rip some schedules because Green Bay.
Guess how many teams they've beaten with winning records one,
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Seattle two, New Orleans two or one? Really, Tampa Bay twice.
So get off your hide horse. The Steelers. They beat
more teams with winning records than most of the contenders
you play with in front of you. And they've watched twos.
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In one of them there were fraudulent eleven and no.
Because of the schedule. This is a schule. It is
a schedule eleven and schedule is full of bad teams.
Steelers are craud I'll give you this. I mean, obviously
I think Kansas City is much better. I'll give you
when I think of the undefeated teams that come to mind.
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I mean, you had the Colts under Tony Dungee. They
were better than this Steelers team. You had the Patriots
with Randy Moss and Tom Brady they were better than
this Steelers team. And you had obviously the Dolphins in
seventy two. Was that Coloch team was Jim Carwell. That
was fortune. Okay, you had to so I'll give you.
I mean, I'm not saying this is some historically great
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team in oh wild they're eleven and oh. I'm just
saying give them. You gotta give them the respect they deserved.
They are Nobody thinks they're gonna be Kansas City. They
might not even be Tennessee again. But you gotta give
them credit for what they've done. That's all I'm saying,
especially when they have treated your your super Bowl pick
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like a bunch of Patsy's. That's right, I said it.
In fact, Alex, give me the bongos. Alex, don't do that,
hey seven seven ninety seven seven nine nine sixty three.
Give Chris just because Chris is. He's so needy, he's
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always begging for it. Be sure to catch live editions
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work for Serious XM NFL Radio. Charlie Weiss, Charlie, welcome
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to the US up. Charlie. Yeah, yeah, I'm officially. I'm
officially a loser now I'm on the I was gonna say,
you don't sound too proud about He sounds like he's wow, Charlie,
is that what you're losers? And I'll tell you what.
You know, what's good? I get up in the morning
because of satellite radio for I'm serious. I get up
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going on a computer for a while, then I get
to talk about NFL football till lunchtime every day. So
the good life, good work, if you can get it.
That's right. You're living in South Florida. You're wearing a
pair of shorts and a T shirt with no shoes on,
and you know so, I mean, who can complain about that?
I mean, no complaining, jolie. I'm complaining though, after this
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game that we saw this afternoon delight, I think it
was supposed to be, but it wound up being a disaster.
I think the Pittsburgh Steelers are the worst eleven and
old team I've ever seen. The Ravens were down eighteen
players with COVID had to start start RG three who
hadn't he hadn't played in years, and looked terrible doing it,
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and barely beat them and just looked awful. What is
up with the Steelers is are they as good as
that eleven and old record? Or is that because of
that easy schedule that they have? Well? Two things. Is
there anyone in the free world that's objective that wasn't
pulling for Baltimore at the end of the game. I
mean it would have been nice. If I don't root,
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I don't root for anyone, and I was, and I
was rooting hard for Baltimore. You know, on that third
on that pacity floated up there that they got the
first down on, I was hoping that was intercepted. They
took it in and won the game. I said, what
poetic justice would that have them? Because and when you're
a really good football team, I mean, you never apologize
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for a win. I'm sure you know that that's going
to be the party line come out of Pittsburgh. But
when you're a really good football team, you don't play
down two opponents this often. Now, psychologically you do occasionally,
you know, because you can't get up for every week,
regardless that what people think. It's impossible, but so psychologically
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there are going to be let down throughout the year.
But there's just too many games for a team that's
eleven and oh there's too many games where Pittsburgh, let's
the opponent, you know, have a chance to win the game.
And it's going to come back to sloppy in the
face when it's all said and done. No doubt about
Rob mentioned RG three and obviously several years now removed
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from his rookie year. But how does a guy, I
mean even you know, immediately after he came back, he
just was never the same player. How does a guy
going go from taking the league by storm to like
what looks like even a bad backup at this point. Well,
the only thing, it's probably the only team in the
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league where he fits. So I think when you when
you're a team like the Ravens and are going to
run an offense like the ray Evans are running, it's
not necessarily getting the best back up, it's getting a
guy who fits what they do. Now, unfortunately, he doesn't
have much much left much, you know, in the passing game.
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You know, McSorley might have been a better answer to
use in the game, to be honest with you. But
but that being said, it's the one place where if
you're looking for a poor man's lamar, that's what he has.
He's a poor man's lamar. So, I mean, it's the
only I can't see him playing for another team, another
offense in the league based on you know what I
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see out there right now, Charlie. Did Tom Brady not
do his due diligence or realize what he was getting involved?
In when he decided to go to Tampa and play
for Bruce Arians. Bruce Arians has aired out players before.
This is not new like what he's done publicly, and
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all the guys who play for him all suffered through
their career most interceptions because he likes to air the
ball down. Feel uh And now you know you look
at Brady people thinking Bruce Arians is and using them correctly,
and and they're appalled that Bruce Arians has called him
out because he hasn't played well. What do you make
of this relationship? And and Tom Brady picking Tampa. Well,
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I hammered all over Arians here in the last couple
of weeks because what head coach. I don't care how
much of a loose scanning you are with media, what
head coach throws his quarterback publicly under the bus? I mean,
I've never heard of it before. Have you ever heard
of it before? Well, Bruce Arians, but I've never I've
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never heard of it before. Hey, look it, here's the deal. Okay,
when things go bad, I've been I've been an offensive coordinator,
I've been a head coach. When things go bad, you
stand up there and say it all starts with me,
and it rolls downhill from here. I have to go back.
I can review this, but I obviously didn't do a
good enough job. That's what you say publicly, Okay, Then
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you go get all the information, you go watch the tape,
you talk to all the assistance, you talk to the players,
you make sure you know, you know that any communication
issues that came up, and then you levy. You know,
you're lower the you know you're you go lower the punches,
you know, but those should all be privately, they shouldn't
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be publicly. I don't get it, and I can't see
any intrinsic value it brings to your team when you're
doing that publicly publicly. I mean, if it makes them
feel good, fine, but I'm totally opposed to that attact. Now, Charlie,
the story came out. I think Brady even said it
came out today that their relationship is fine between him
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and arians. But you know time obviously you spend time
with him in New England. How do you think he
is taking this? I mean, he's professional, obviously, is he
going to play and play the best he can? But
you know what I mean, like inside, how do you
think this is bothering him or is he really just
been Chriss, what let me ask you a question, Chris,
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what would you expect him to say? Right? You know,
he's not gonna pay, He's not going to go there.
I mean I was with that organization since, you know,
since we first went to New England. That's just not
the way that the business was ever done. Every hand
one handled it, you know, and everyone handled it professionally. Now,
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anyone who knows Tommy one bit, your question is rhetorical
because you know what he's thinking. You don't have to
ask me. You don't have to have been around him,
you don't need to know him. You just know what
guys like this are like, and they don't like it
one bit. You know it, I know it. And you'll
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never hear one word out him publicly about this subject.
How about the idea that you know, this thing ends badly,
or maybe they get knocked out in the first round,
or they don't somehow don't make the playoffs or whatever.
Is there any chance that maybe tom doesn't come back
for a year or two, or as Bruce arians fired
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after this year, if things don't work out and there's
a rub because one of those guys not be back
if this thing ends badly, look look at. I don't know,
I don't know you know who makes all the decisions
in Tampa. But I can tell you this, Tommy will
walk away when he thinks she doesn't happen anymore. And
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until that he's going to keep playing. So as long
as he thinks that he can play at a high
level and have a chance to win championships, so'll keep playing.
The day he thinks that he's starting to fall off
the wall, like everyone thinks he's falling off the wall,
he can't throw the ball twenty yards down the field
that was to complaint a week ago. Right then he
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goes throws three or four completions twenty yards down the field,
and we don't we are raised that one again. I mean,
but when when he feels when hey, look at, he'll
walk away. Not because of the situation. He'll walk away
what he thinks that he can't do it anymore. Charlie,
we got about a minute left. I want to get
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from you right now. Who's the best team in the
NFC and then the AFC. Who do you think is
the best challenger biggest challenger to Kansas City? Um? I
think I think the leader in the clubhouse in the
NFC is Green Bays slash New Orleans. You know, although
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I'm not really sold on Green Bay's defense. I mean,
you watch Green Bay is I think is underestimated by
a lot of people. But so I think it's Green
Bay slash New Orleans. And what was the question about
the AFC, who's the biggest challenge of the Kansas City.
I don't know if there is the biggest challenger. They're
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pretty their head and shoulders above the rest. I mean,
I mean, you could say Pittsburgh, but I think I
think it's a I think it's a one horse race.
That's what I think. Well by default, because the Steelers are,
to me, are fraudulent. They're the worst eleven and old
team I've ever seen. You know, there's a couple of
dangerous teams that literally don't want to play. Tennessee is dangerous.
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You know, Buffalo could be dangerous, Miami could be dangerous.
I mean, there's some teams that can be dangerous. But
in reality, you know, in reality, I think Kansas City's
clearly the best team. I think they're clearly the best
team in football. All right, that's Charlie White. Super Bowl
Champ check him out on Serious XM NFL Radio. Charlie,
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Breaking news, the Houston Rockets trade Russell Westbrook to the
Washington Wizards for John Wall in a first round draft pick.
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Wow wow. Now obviously, Rob, remember this came out well
maybe two two and a half weeks ago, shortly after
the news broke that Westbrook wanted out. This came out
as a possibility, and I said at the time, and
I feel this way. Good move for Washington. Good move.
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Now you're not winning a championship, but in the Eastern
Conference robe with Russell Westbrook and Bradley Bill. Now, Bill,
did you know with wal hurt? Bill got used to
handling the ball. I think he averaged six assists last year.
He was he was. He turned into a nice little playmaker.
But he obviously is a very good shooter. Can play
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off the ball. Westbrook will create all types of you know,
havoc and draw double teams and get Bill open shots.
So that's a nice duo in the East. That Look,
if you're Washington, you've been irrelevant for a long time,
you probably get into the playoffs. And so you know,
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the contract is the same as Walls. I think they
both have three years by one thirty left on it,
one thirty one, so good for them. For Houston man
Walls coming off the knee injury then he got hurt
with the achilles during his rehab, he's probably I mean
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could he and I mean obviously like he has the
ball in his hands. So the question is, does this
mean they're gonna trade Harden if I'm them, not necessarily,
I'm not just getting rid of. In fact, now I
got John Wall now for three years a huge money.
So do I keep Harden and try to compete. Look,
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if I get blown away with an offer, then yeah,
I'll trade Hardened. But for now I'm probably saying, look y'all,
we're gonna work it out, you know. But it's interesting
they're not a fit either. I mean, Wall can't really shoot.
He's used to having the ball in his hand, so
that's really no better. I actually think, as crazy as
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this might say, Westbrook might have been a better fit
with hardened because at least he gives you a different look.
I think it's bad all the way around, and a
if I'm a Rocket season ticket holder, they basically through
the towel in and uh, you know, like that trade
because I don't think that makes him any better and
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then you give them Do you think it definitely makes
them worse? Yeah? I do. John Wall's like, I think
it makes them worse. I agree, I think. I mean,
he just hasn't been healthy and he's got other issues
Chris that's gone on with with Washington after they signed
them to that big deal. I bet you if you
could be yeah, yeah, I'm just saying it's just been
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a bad look all the way around, Okay, the whole thing.
And he's not one of the players who you feel
good about when you get him on your team. You
could have sympathy for a guy who's been through through
some issues health wise. John Wall doesn't come off to
me that way. I'm just telling you the whey. If
I'm a Rocket fan, what did John Wall do to you? Nothing?
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He didn't do anything to me. I just wouldn't feel
good about it if I was a Rocket, I do.
I don't think they did anything great for the organization.
I think they they said, you take our garbage, your garbage.
That pig better be great, that pig better be like
only top three protected or something. I mean, really, I'm
sure I'm good, but sure it is it doesn't fit,
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you know what I mean, Like, I agree with you
as much as I didn't Westbrook and hard and obviously
didn't fit. But at least they gave you different looks,
different things to worry about, and so you know, you
could be a decent playoff team in the West. But
I don't think they can be. I don't know that
they can beat that, especially without D'Antoni. And here's the
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other part. If you're Westbrook, you're officially been dumped, like
like seriously, like they sent you to like one of
the worst teams for one of the worst guys in
the league. Like and I know Bill is there, Chris,
he's a good player, but really, like, like, okay, you're
being dumped to the Washington Generals. That's what just happened
to you. No, the Washington Wizards, No Washington Generals. That's
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what I said that you oh, you you gonna really
tell me they have no shot at making the playoffs. No,
I don't think so. Really, I shot, I'm not guaranteeing it. Really. No,
it's the East right now. I know the East has
gotten better. The East isn't what it was a few
years ago. I I it's you know, Milwaukee's tough, Brooklyn obviously, Philadelphia, Boston, Miami,
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Indiana's okay, that's six or with teams. No, that's ay.
You just how many teams. Indiana was seven? If you
go okay those, that's seven teams. So there's one spot
for Washington, Charlotte, Orlando. That's what I'm saying, Man, Chris
or Atlant has made all these debases as well. Okay, Atlanta,
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but is not guaranteed either. Like what they've done. They've
done some really nice things. That's what I'm saying. I
would take them. But I think Washington's got a shot.
I don't think. I don't think Washington's making the playoffs.
And I think you're basically if you're if you're Westbrook,
you gotta feel like they put you out the pasture,
like you're going to like one of the worst organizations
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that can't get it right, just as floundering. You got
to me it wasn't like, oh, a new change of scenery.
This is gonna be great for me. If I'm Westbrook,
I feel like I got dumped. I got dumped. I
got sent to NBA Siberia. That's what Washington in this
NBA Siberia, and that's where Westbrook is now. And NOWA
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because I'm tight, No, I'm serious, Chris, no here. But okay,
I hear you, Rob, and again I'll give him a shot.
I do like a landa better, but I am not
back in office. Washington has a shot to make the playoffs.
Now they'll get bounced quick fasting in a hurry. But
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they got a shot to make the playoffs. But I
hear where you're coming from. But here's the problem. If
Westbrook didn't know this, shame on him, Rob. No where
else was he going. We all we were trying to think.
Rack our brains. Okay, he should have kept his mouth
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shut and stayed in Houston. Get to the second round
of the playoffs. Be exciting, be dynamic, be must TV.
You know they made you know, I don't know if
I wasn't gonna say, they might be playing on Christmas.
But you know him and Harden with you know, teams
you want to watch. They were a duo you wanted
to watch. And now no contender wanted him. No bad
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team that you know was was had a bunch of
young stuff, so you had to where else. New York
Timbodo wanted him because Timberdot was a coach, right, and
he wants the best players he can get to win
in that moment. But the front office was like, nah no,
because you know what, Chris, if they if the Knicks
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did that, they would be right back in the same
pegree keep doing it. And you gotta break out of
that habit if you're ever gonna win a championship since
nineteen seventy three, My god, you can't do it. And
you're right. The coach always wants talent, no matter what.
I'll get him. I'll whip him in the shape I'll
get him. Eric Rose right, I'll put a bunch of
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defenders in right, play hard around him, and he'll be
the stud. You know, but I hear you're right, Rob,
I mean going to Washington. Obviously it's nothing. He was
in a better situation in Houston. He's in the worst situation,
in the worst situation, and now you know what, like
like Chris, you want to talk about both of us.
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We praised Westbrook because when he got those triple doubles,
especially when it's ok seat, they used to win, right,
And now he's gonna be putting up numbers for a
team that doesn't win, and it might like like water
down the way you look at him, like just just
like they were relevant. Yeah, he had a triple double.
They lost again. I'm telling you, this is like the
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worst thing. He's not an old guy. These are like
the next three years it could be could be horrible
for him playing in that spot, especially where the East
is and who knows. I just I have no good
feelings about the Wizards. Just I'm or down. I hear again.
I'm not gonna act sit here and act like he's
going to a tremendous situation. But I think that wall
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is in much worse, a much worse situation. Like Rustbrook
probably is done playing significant playoff games for the rest
of his career. Where Jane ain't good. I give you that,
But Westbrook in the East still has a good shot
at making All Star teams. And I know that's not
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what it's all about, but but that does mean something,
means something to players, mean something to your legacy. He
still can put up numbers, probably make all star teams.
Is Ji Wall making an All Star team in the West?
Nohow right? Right? I mean it's not even gonna go together, right,
You're right, Chris, it's going to it's going to clash.
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It's going to be an issue. If I'm James Hard
and I'm like, what what did you just do? Yeah? Seriously,
I want out, double out right now, you really want out.
But the thing is, I still and I want your
opinion on this. I still if I'm Houston, I'm not
saying I won't trade him. I will trade him if
I get a good deal. But I'm still not giving
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him away just to get rid of him. No, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't give him away. He's a talent. And when
people do buy tickets again, Chris, if they ever do, right,
he's worth the price of admission, Like, like, this is
a business too, right, Let's be honest. Absolutely absolutely, it's
a business. You got it all time? Great, you know what,
I don't just give him away for some kids and
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a bag of balls and go, well we'll just go
this route. No, No, you won't, especially when you got
John Wall locked up for the next three years, you
know what I'm saying, Like, man, it's I don't really
understand why Houston did again that pick better be something special.
They might have been just tired of Westbrook and just said,
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you know what, we just we're not going to go
through this, you know what I mean? And you know
they got a new GM down there, coach and coach, right,
and they probably just said, dude, you know what, I've
always believed in this, Chris, And I'm with you, though
I don't. I wouldn't give anybody away, but I don't
even want people want to be be with me, Like like,
if you don't want if you don't want to be,
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you're not gonna get the best out of people when
they don't want to be where they are. You know,
as soon as you let me know you know you
don't want to be here, then fine. I mean, you know,
when Rob g wanted to go to seven ten or whatever,
you know, we're like, like, good, dude, please, here's the door.
Don't let you don't let the door hit you where
the good lords. You know, I'm gonna bring up all
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the Rob's dirty come contract
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