September 16, 2021 • 35 mins
Chris and Rob discuss how much pressure is on Dak Prescott to keep the Dallas Cowboys afloat while they deal with this sudden rash of injuries. Plus, former NFL defensive back and host of the 'Man to Man' podcast Darius Butler swings by to discuss the realistic expectations for Carson Wentz this season, why he thinks the Detroit Lions should give Calvin Johnson his money, and much more! And, Super Bowl champion and FOX Sports Radio NFL analyst Greg Jennings checks in to discuss what went wrong for Aaron Rodgers and what we can expect from him in week 2.
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s R. You're listening to the best of the Odd
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I Couple. Chris and Rive come into you live from
the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Our next guest is a
former NFL defensive back now the co host of the
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Man to Man podcast. Darius Butler joins the show. Darius,
how are you man? What's happening? Chris? Chris rods up?
We are good, man, We're good. Now, look before we
get into the football. So you got the Man to
Man podcast? Is it just you or do you have
a partner? Oh no, it's me and our Antoinea Day,
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fourteen year NFL vent Super Bowl champ, multiple Pro Bowlers,
So yeah, it's my former teammates. So it's me and him.
We go back there. We talked football, basketball, I mean,
everything going on in sports world. So Oh yeah, my
first love. Wow. So how's the foray into the media
treating you? How you liking it? The transition? Man? You
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know what, it's been fun. I never would have thought, um,
you know, in a million years that you know, I
would have been in this space. Always had you know,
a great respect especially for like the local writers. I
always had a good relationship with him because I know
how tough their job was, you know, trying to get
a story every day. But I never thought, you know,
I would be on this side every but kind of
how this media as a whole is kind of moving too,
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this digital space where you know, you kind of own
the build your own platforms and you know, not necessarily
you know, be stuck to these FCC airway rules. Um,
it's been fun, man, opens It's real dialogue. So I'm
enjoying it. You know, when I stop enjoying it, that's
when I stopped doing it. How how difficult is it
to criticize people? I think the biggest thing that separates
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athletes who want to get into this business is a
lot come and go because they have a hard time
being critical of other you know, other players. I'm not
saying you gotta trash people. But if somebody doesn't play well,
you gotta be willing to say it, right, you got to,
you got you gotta call them how you see it.
And you know, athletes, you know, it's it's part of it.
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It's what comes with it. You know, somebody's telling the truth.
And it's not coming from you know, a bad or
a hateful place. It's just kind of it's part of it.
So usually if I pay something bad about someone, you know,
especially in the football, I'll give something, hey, maybe they
could do this to make it better, especially if we're
talking about DPS defense or something like that, and I
do some breakdowns and some coverages and things like that.
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But I'll also go into kind of like a teaching
place as well, because as athletes, that's what we do.
We're getting critics sides literally every day after practicing games,
we're going to those meetings. So I've been all right
with that, and a lot of times when I do it,
the player the person will reach out and be like, hey,
you were you were dead ass right about that, and uh,
you know, I appreciate it and keep it going. But
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as long as you come from the right place, uh,
you know, it hasn't been a problem so far, all right,
So now it's time to trash somebody. The Giants do.
They have a quarterback Danny Dimes thing called Daniel Jones,
and I'm I'm I'm looking. Something's missing here. Is he
the quarterback of the future for the Giants because their
offense is abysmal? Absolutely? Not absolutely. I mean, you see
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him and you can watch me, and you can say, hey,
this kid's got potential. He's got an arm, he can
make all the throws. He's athletic. You know, some people
call him sneaky after he's just puriently athletic. Um. But
it's just it just hasn't come together. And you know,
you can blame it on whatever you want to blame
it on, but it's a result of results oriented business.
And that was Antoine's former teammates. So he called him
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Danny DVEs. I told him a calling what his mom
and name is, Daniel Jones to feel proved otherwise. And
I haven't seen anything close to Danny Dimes. So obviously,
I'm always hopeful for players that they can turn around.
But how it looks now, man, they're gonna have to
address that quarterback position. They won't have a chance, you know,
to really compete, not only in that division, but you know,
to be a real contender. You played the bulk of
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your career in Indianapolis, so they have a reclamation project
that quarterback with Carson Wentz. He was okay in Week one,
but obviously they lost, so it's all for not. But
do you think he is the guy there that he
can kind of resurrect his career and get back to
or even close to the MVP for me showed back
in twenty seventeen. Yeah, I thought, and you know, he
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gets the most hyper credit for an MVP that he
never warned than anybody else's sports. But he did have
a good year, and he had that good year with Frank, right,
so I thought, you know, kind of even midway through
last season, you know, you kind of saw that writing
on the wall and he was he was sticking it
up and everything around him was as well. And I
saw that, you know, I thought that it looked Frank,
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and not only Frank, but being in Indianapolis, been in Midwest,
you guys, know, you covered sports forever. Being in Philly,
that's a totally different beach coming from North Dakota, So
you get out there in m D. You know, that's
just better for a psyche, you know, this type of
thing that he's into hunting and things like that. So
I think ultimately he can't turn his career around there,
but he will maybe never be an MVP type quarterback.
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But I think that building that team, I think they're
built to be a winner long term, and I think
it will be some stability there. They just locked up
Jim and the head coach, so I think he'll be
all right there. I don't I don't see him being
an MVP type guy, but I do see him potentially,
you know, taking those guys down. And you know the
stretch of the playoffs. What did you make of Week one?
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Aaron Rodgers Obviously a terrible game, coming off of an
unbelievable MVP season he had, but he didn't you know,
he talked a lot during the off season, a lot
of noise, and then he laid a stinker in Game one. Yeah,
he laid the egg. He laid an egg. And the
start the season, especially a season like this, it'll be
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a lot of teams who came out and stunk it up,
or who came out and looked like Super Bowl champions.
In Week one and week two he'll look completely different.
So I think, you know, kind of after that first
four or five games of the season, will really have
a grip on who everybody is. But I mean, this
is just Aaron Rodgers were talking about. I think he'll
definitely turn around and that team will be all right.
He'll be all right. I think the Saints did a
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great job with everything that's going on outside of football,
you know in Louisiana with her Cane Iida and you know,
being displaced, and you know, choosing Florida to be the
place to bring a rod too, and then the defense,
you know, coming out handling the business from white to wire,
putting Jamis in great situations. I thought Jamis would have
a great year this year. He started off, you know,
you could start off better than five touchdowns no picks.
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So I think that was more about New Orleans just
I mean, just executing a game plan on all three
phases of the game to a t and Green Bay
never really got comfortable. It kind of looked very similar
to when they got walked up on early in the
season with the Bucks last year. But I think green
Bay lb all right. Then Rogers always seems to have
a bad game. There's a really bad game in the
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mix somewhere during the season. He had it at Tampa Bay.
A couple of years ago. He had a stinker at
San Francisco and San Diego, you remember that. I mean,
and against the Chargers. So he always squeezes one in.
But I think, if you're the Lions on Monday Night,
you better be ready. The DBS, you better be ready.
Oh yeah, you better, you better be ready. And the Lions.
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You know, the Lions shows some fight. Man. I was
kind of, you know, proud of the Lions. You know
they I turned turned that game off. Actually everything on
I think thirty eight seventeen. I turned back on thirty
one thirty eight. So they showed some fight, golf shows
and fight. I kind of wrote golf off. But we'll see.
You can see what MCDC does out there with their
new regime. It got a new GM so you know,
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we'll see. But I think they hold it down at
Green Band at home and they get back on the
winning ways. Speaking of Detroit, they obviously had the new coach,
Dan Campbell, and he's different, you know, talking about bite,
kneecaps and as a player, you know, we're from the
outside looking in. But if you're a player, are you
guys mocking that making fun of it in the locker room? Uh?
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Think it's corny or do you respect it? And you
know he's a football player and that's football talk, you know, like,
how do you read? How do you how do you
think most players look at that stuff? Honestly, it's just
about the results. Man, if you're building a winner, if
you're showing you know, if guys are bought in, and
you know, week in week out, regardless if you're winning
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the game or now, it's always it's not always kind
of about the result. But if you can see that
process and then kind of where your team is. You know,
do you have an older veteran team, do you have
a guy a team that's kind in the middle. I
think you have a quarterback in golf who's trying to
resurrect and almost you know, long as somebody's believing in him,
you know him and the rest of the guys who
are believing him. So I don't have a problem with
with Dan Campbell, but you know, if they get to
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three and eleven in the season, they're not competitive and
you're not showing any progression. Okay, now we gotta get
it out, get him out of here and get something
more you know, traditional or whatever. But if he has
quirky ways and crazy things and it's actually working in
the fan base is buying in the team, and it's identity.
That's a blue collar city. So as long as they're
they're showing competitive and fighting in something. You know, Lions
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that those fans have been struggling for a while. So
if they're showing something, that's a progress. Way before you
got one playoff wins, way before I can document it.
I covered the Lions for twenty years. I saw so
many losses in the NFL. But the only good thing though,
was that I could start writing my column at halftime.
Because again, man, they gotta pay They gotta pay cch
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his money. Man, they gotta give him that blood. No way,
I know, I'll debate you left and right. No way
does he deserved that money. He quit, he quit. There's
no way that they delioned. You give a guy money
who quit, honor, No, you know this guy went out. No,
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I ain't buying them, so uh they put together come
and do twenty eight hours of appearances and this and
that like but they're being nice. They shouldn't even give
him the money back. Barry Sanders gave back like ten
million dollars to the Lions or whatever it was. Do
you know that won't be right. They won't be right
until they They haven't. They haven't been right way before Calvin.
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Let me tell you something. If it if the roles
were reversed and the Lions weren't paying Calvin Johnson because
he because he quit or you know, tried to hold
money from him, people would go crazy. They don't owe
Calvin Johnson and Nickel. They paid him all the money
he deserved. It's not always about what you look what
you know are he tore shoulder. We know how he
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messed his shoulder up. He he retired before. No, he
didn't quit, you know million anyway, you laid it on
the line. Go enjoy your new kid, and don't quit
because he couldn't think he was heard. Guys. Well, unfortunately
we got to move on, and we want to because yeah,
I already got him. You're good man, you're doing your thing,
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keep it up and you're gonna be You're gonna be
fine in this media space. So we will get you
on again. Man, We really like you. Hey, appreciate you.
Guys happening man, yea peace. He's good, Rob, He'll say
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New York Giants, both teams in need of a victory
and Danny Jones in need of a good game because
New York is getting in patient with him. And Spencer Rattler,
who I know is off to a rough start at
Oklahoma right now, but he is projected by many to
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be the top quarterback in this draft. And the thing
is Oklahoma They've produced Jalen Hurts, Kyler, Murray Baker Mayfield,
so lately their quarterbacks have done their thing at the
next level. So Daniel Jones better start producing or the
Giants might start looking toward the future with somebody else.
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We got Greg Jennings, super Bowl champion and body builder supreme.
That's right, also a Fox Sports NFL analyst. He will
join us at the bottom of the hour and another
playing tonight. Huh, he's activated. Okay, finally he is playing. Well,
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you know, he played last week, but they've kind of
partially played him. Um didn't do much. Okay, I didn't.
I didn't know that they had activated him. I thought
they were still waiting on him. Well, he played, but
then coming out of that game they were he was
questionable for tonight. I guess on the short rest. But still,
but Rob, let's go to the I mean, my goodness,
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And I know, you know, people like to make fun
of the Dallas Cowboys, and they're so much to make
fun of. It's been what, Rob, twenty five years since
they they've won four playoff games? Is that it? In
the last twenty five years haven't won a Super Bowl.
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I mean, this is a team that was as everybody
knows because they're still quote unquote America's team, But they
actually were good back in the day when we were
growing up, starback and Tony dors said, Hollywood Henderson, Drew Pearson,
two Tall Jones, all those guys, and now they are
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basically running on fumes. But I picked them to make
the playoffs this year and have a nice season, and
they looked pretty good and losing to the defendant Super
Bowl champions Tampa Bay Buccaneers on opening Night last week.
But Rob, I mean, this is the type of thing
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that makes you wonder, are they snake bitten under Jerry
Jones now? Because DeMarcus Lawrence rob their best pass rusher,
he broke his foot in practice on Wednesday. He's out
six to eight weeks. Their second best pass rusher, Randy Gregory.
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He is on the COVID protocol, so he's likely to
be out as well on Sunday. Not only that, Michael Galloped,
their third receiver, was placed on injured reserve with a
cash strain that he suffered in the game against Tampa Bay.
Right tackle Lyle Collins. Lyle Collins was suspended five games
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for violating the NFL Substance Abuse Poe. This came out
like a day after the game, and they already were
without Zach Martin, their great offensive lineman in Game one
because of COVID. Now he'll be back. But Rob the
insult to injury leon. Let remember him a Super Bowl infamy.
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He's one of their coaches. Now. He injured his knee
in practice. I don't know what in the world he
was doing. He had ball and he was running down
the field, and not only did his did the ball
slip out of his hands, his knee gave out and
he fell out. But this, I mean, it just Rob.
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If it's not one thing with the Cowboys, it's another.
I look, and I'm sticking with him as the pick.
I mean, I think that's a bad division. Philly looked
much better than everybody expected. But we'll see if that continues.
But you know, they got a light schedule, so I
think they still can have a good year. In fact,
I'm gonna say that. You know, I came on last week.
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I came on last Friday, and after Dak threw up
four hundred plus yards in a loss to Tampa Bay,
I said, all right, it's been two years into making
I was calling him in route to elite, and I
said it last Friday. Rob, Dak Prescott is now elite.
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I'm convinced and I'm gonna put this on him if
he's now elite. And I'm not the only one that
feels that way. You know, I'm not saying he's in
the class of Brady and Rogers and Mahomes and those guys,
but he you know, there's another class of elite below them.
That's where he's at. But if he is indeed in
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that class, Rob, no excuses. I just read off a
litany of injuries and COVID missus and all that. I
don't care. If you're elite, there are times when you
can lift your team. I'm not saying you lift them
by yourself to the super Bowl, but you can lift
them to some regular season victories. And Rob, he's got
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to show it. We all we've talked about it at
nauseum that he can beat some winning teams. I know
it's Week two, but the Chargers are a winning team.
They're winning. Oh, so I'm saying, Dak Prescott, they're O
and one ride. We talked about the O and two.
What that means Dak Prescott needs to go out and
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lift the Cowboys to victory over the Chargers. If he's elite,
I think at some point you do have to win
those games. You can't always it's the NFL. People are
hurt every week, so you can't just use that as
your crutch. Oh we didn't have this, We didn't have that.
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There are certain games they have to win. If they
lose this week, then you'll start to look and go, well,
what's actually happened here? They played well in losing or
you know, a close game, but a game they need.
They just it's like they know what's stacked up against them.
I know the division is weak. They should win the division.
I don't have to make the playoffs. It's a big
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game for Washington because Washington they have a defense and
I don't know where they're where they're going with the
you know quarterback who he looked goods. They played in
the playoffs against Tampa Bay, right, and Taylor hook decent
and Taylor what is it heine Taylor Heineke? Yeah, yeah,
and he looked decent. But the defense is the strength
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of that team. And the Cowboys. I don't know. I
think it's a mixed bag. Mike McCarthy, I'm not game
on him. I'm not keen on him. Um, they gotta
get a more balanced attack. They gotta run the football.
Dak is putting up numbers, but they don't win. They
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don't win when he puts up those numbers. And that
if I if I'm looking at at it, I don't
know if they're analytics about it, is somebody looking to
say because this is what Tony Dungee pointed to when
Dak got hurt. So this is not me or some
other talking head or just somebody who doesn't know football.
This is Tony Dungee won a Super Bowl and he
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said it. It sounded like a slight of Dak when
he said it, but he was like, this may be
a blessing in disguise. This might be great for the
Cowboys from the standpoint that they'll go back to running
the football, which is when they were at their best.
And I get it. Ezekiel Elliott's not the same guy.
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That's what I was gonna ask you, Rob, is he
do you think he can carry them like he did
his first few years. I don't know, but I think
they need to try if because I would say to you,
Dak puts up big numbers and they lose again and
Ezekiel Elliott has twenty five yards or he doesn't do anything.
At some point, you got to figure out something with
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the running back because I don't think they're going to
get where they want to get to without running the
football effectively. Well, you need some balance, there's no doubt
about it. And Kellen Moore, the offensive coordinator for the Cowboys, Rob,
he said they called twelve other plays running plays for Ezekiel,
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and Dak checked out of him. You know, Zeke's best friend.
So I don't think he was doing it. You know,
he wasn't doing it to keep it from Zeke, but
that's what the defense looked like they were giving him.
And he thought that those were, you know, better suited
for pass plays. But they do have to get some balance.
The interesting thing, Rob, is that Ezekiel Elliott he statistically
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you asked about, like the analytics, statistically, he gets better.
He's best at his best between Carrie's eleven and twenty.
He's he's much better at eleven through and he is
at one through ten. He had eleven. I believe he
hadn't even get warmed up. Eleven carries for thirty three
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yards exactly, and they I think you gotta get him
at least fifteen carries and get that back and you
know what else, Rob, Tony Polard's not bad. He's not
in every down back, but I like Tony Pollard too.
So however they do it, if they have to do
it running back by committee, I think they can do that.
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But I do think Rob that the days of the
running game being their primary focus. Like they're not obviously
the Ravens, but they're not even the Browns. And I
say even I shouldn't have even thrown that in there,
because the Browns have a tremendous running game, but that's
not who the Cowboys are. I do believe Rob Dak
is going to have to carry him. He doesn't have
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to throw for four hundred yards and all that. But
I just think that they've transferred from being a running
team with a game managing quarterback who could make some
plays here there, which is what Dak used to be too.
Now I think he is. When I say elite, that's
part of the elite description for me. You can you
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put the team on your back and problem. He's got
to show it. I get it. But that doesn't mean
they won't win, you know, So I think he can win.
Putting up those numbers. The numbers against Tampa Bay were
not stat path for numbers, you know, to use your phrase.
They weren't in a blowout when they're desperate and the
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defenses in a soft prevent and all that. They were
legitimate numbers. I mean, they moved the football up and
down the field on Tampa Bay. So I do think
he can do that. They'll get need some help from
the running game. But I do think Da can do
it by himself, and he's just got to go out
and prove it. Rob. Yeah, well it starts this week
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and they got to start winning some games. It's just
you can't keep filling the stat sheet but not winning games.
And that's where the Cowboys are. And I know they've
had injuries and all kinds of stuff. New coach. The
defense was horrible last year and sometimes he had no
choice but to throw it. You can't be down twenty
one points and run the football, So I get that,
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but they need to start the games with a little
more balance and try to get Ezekiel. You just said it.
He's better between eleven and twenty carries, so he only
got eleven. He need more. You gotta see if this
guy has anything left. And that was Tampa Bay's a
great run defense, arguably best in the league. So you
know you would expect him to get more shots and
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have more success against the charges. But we'll see. That's
the game you gotta be watching out for. Thanks for
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He don't eat food no more. He don't. I don't know.
I don't know what he's eating, but it's just unbelievable.
I don't know. What do your kids say when they
see you? I mean, you look like verb or something
from do you remember the cartoon verb? Greg Jenny's what's
up man? What's happening? Man? Look? I eat food? Yeah?
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What kind of food? What do you call food? Dinner?
Last night he had four cash you nuts and some water.
Absolutely not. My last meal was seven ounces of steak
and about one hundred and fifty grams of Brussels props.
My next meal, My next meal is about to be
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six ounces of chicken with a small little mixed salad
with tomatoes, kale, laruga cucumbers. Yeah, man, I'm eating. Okay,
all right, you're gonna wash it down with some molten
chocolate cake. I'm gonna wash it down with a nice
thirty two hundreds of glass of water, actually a gatorade. Hey. Hey,
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let me ask right now, Chris, if he ate a
piece of chocolate cake, he would gain forty pounds. That's
where he is at. My metabolism would it would literally
just burn it. Let me ask real talk. If you
ate like this during your career, do you think it
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would have made a difference. Um, I definitely think it
would have made a difference. Energy level, being able to
sustain and have that level of endurance, um with with
with knowing what's going into your body versus every single
day you're switching it up and you're peeking high. One
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day you're high, next day you're low because of all
the suits and the just a different caloric intake. Um,
it would make a difference that way. As far as performance,
I mean, it is what it is. I was a baller,
that's right, no doubt about. Hey, let's start here the
Giants and and uh Washington, they're playing Daniel Jones. What
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are you making? Touchdown? Rob? He's looking good on the
first drive. I was wondering was the whole play by
play during the game. But but, but, but Daniel Jones
just just where he is. If you're the Giants, are
you concerned? Are you not? Is it is he the fumbles?
Greg thirty fumbles eighteen loss in his first twenty eight game?
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What is that about? Yeah, well, that definitely is something
you can turn yourself with when we're talking about the fumbles,
because at the quarterback position, you got to protect the football.
Like if we can't have if we can't rely on
you to protect the football. And I'm not even talking
about throwing the interceptions. You're the one that has the
ball in your hand on every offensive snap, and so
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we got to be able to trust that you're gonna
do You're gonna do good by us, meaning protect the football.
But Daniel, he's shown flashes and he's so young. I
think the league is just it's changed because of all
the rules and the expectations we have because we've seen
young players at the quarterback position come in and have
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immediate success. Like the Joe Burrows and guys like that,
like and so our expectations become based on the few
that actually live up to all the extra heights and
expectations set. And Daniel Jones, he's had some great games,
and he's obviously had some poor games. He just had
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a great drive. They moved the pocket, he used his feet,
he threw the ball. He had a time where he
should have thrown the ball. Let it go. A young
mental mistake, but you're gonna have that. When you're talking
about a guy who's in year three. You hope that
he grows out of it. But the fumbles, the turnovers,
you can't live with that, you can't win with that.
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Let's go Greg to a veteran who had a bad
week one and one of your former teammates. You guys
won a Super Bowl together, Aaron Rodgers. Do you know him?
Do you think I've heard all manner. Everybody's got a
view of what happened. I've heard some guys say just
one game, just a bad game to worry about, and
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others have said it is more a sign that he's
not all in that when you look at what happened
in the offseason, you know, he's just not all there.
Where are you at on what happened in Week one
and moving forward, well, I'll start hearing he's definitely in
it to win it. Now as far as how far
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in it, he's not as far in because based on
what he showed us this off season, it was him
being removed from the team and him not going through
the off season problem. All those things that he typically
does he didn't do. So there is something there. Period.
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There is something to be said when a guy doesn't
do that and then he performs like that. What I
will say is this, it's no difference than a guy
getting paid what happened to Aaron Rodgers. And this is why, guys,
this is why I never was one to really speak
out and to put my quarterback on blasts or a
teammate for that matter, because the expectations you have now
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of yourself are set higher and it's because of you,
because of what you have done, or because of what
you chose not to do. And so that's what we're seeing.
Aaron Rodgers shose not to show up this offseason. He
chose to make it about whatever it was about. And
with that being the case, you can't afford to come
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and play like that because everybody's now going to directly
relate it to he wasn't there, He's not all the
way in. That can very well be the case, but
it can very well not be. But what can't happen
is you give us that ability to kind of perceive
it that way based on your performance, because it says, yeah,
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I might, I should, I should have had more time,
or I wasn't as prepared or what the case, whatever
the case may be. But I think he's gonna be fine.
I think the Packers are going to be fine. It
was not a good showing. I think it was a
poor showing, not only by Aaron Rodgers, but by that
defense um their inability to be prepared for Jameis Winston
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and what that offense is going to look like. How
about the tour? Did he went over some people in Miami.
I know it's only week one, but you know they've
been so down. They didn't vote him a captain and
they talked about drafting another quarterback. It was even talking
about trading to Sean Watson for to Miami, and that
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the Textians didn't want to in the trade. I'm just
trying to figure out, Uh, where's Tah at this point? Well,
I think Ta has a lot more maturing to do.
He has. He's gaining experience. The more playing time he gets,
the more starts he gets underneath his belt. They've obviously
put the weapons around him, so they're what when when
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you see organizations surround quarterbacks with what they need, they're
eliminating all the excuses. Now it's on you. It's on
you to make it work. And with Ta, it is
on him. We've seen what you look like when you
had a bunch of weapons in Alabama. We've seen what
it looked like when you were able to run the
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type of offense that made you comfortable. That's what they're
doing now in Miami. It's it's basically going to be
on tour. It's to make or break. Anytime you see
them surrounding an individual with talent. We taught with Dak
Prescott and we said, up all the talent around Dak,
they're making back Da better. Well, now we see it
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wasn't just that they were making Dac brother, he was
making everybody around him better as well. All Right, that's
our man, Greg Jennings. We appreciate the knowledge is always brother.
I appreciate you guys. Enjoy that Kale was it? Yeah?
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Sounds tape, magnet oil a delicious, A little larugla on
my scalp. I went to the do amatologists. I'm good now,
all right, great, thanks brother, to see you next week.
All right, Thank you guys,
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former NFL defensive back now the co host of the
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Man to Man podcast. Darius Butler joins the show. Darius,
how are you man? What's happening? Chris? Chris rods up?
We are good, man, We're good. Now, look before we
get into the football. So you got the Man to
Man podcast? Is it just you or do you have
a partner? Oh no, it's me and our Antoinea Day,
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fourteen year NFL vent Super Bowl champ, multiple Pro Bowlers,
So yeah, it's my former teammates. So it's me and him.
We go back there. We talked football, basketball, I mean,
everything going on in sports world. So Oh yeah, my
first love. Wow. So how's the foray into the media
treating you? How you liking it? The transition? Man? You
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know what, it's been fun. I never would have thought, um,
you know, in a million years that you know, I
would have been in this space. Always had you know,
a great respect especially for like the local writers. I
always had a good relationship with him because I know
how tough their job was, you know, trying to get
a story every day. But I never thought, you know,
I would be on this side every but kind of
how this media as a whole is kind of moving too,
(01:48):
this digital space where you know, you kind of own
the build your own platforms and you know, not necessarily
you know, be stuck to these FCC airway rules. Um,
it's been fun, man, opens It's real dialogue. So I'm
enjoying it. You know, when I stop enjoying it, that's
when I stopped doing it. How how difficult is it
to criticize people? I think the biggest thing that separates
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athletes who want to get into this business is a
lot come and go because they have a hard time
being critical of other you know, other players. I'm not
saying you gotta trash people. But if somebody doesn't play well,
you gotta be willing to say it, right, you got to,
you got you gotta call them how you see it.
And you know, athletes, you know, it's it's part of it.
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It's what comes with it. You know, somebody's telling the truth.
And it's not coming from you know, a bad or
a hateful place. It's just kind of it's part of it.
So usually if I pay something bad about someone, you know,
especially in the football, I'll give something, hey, maybe they
could do this to make it better, especially if we're
talking about DPS defense or something like that, and I
do some breakdowns and some coverages and things like that.
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But I'll also go into kind of like a teaching
place as well, because as athletes, that's what we do.
We're getting critics sides literally every day after practicing games,
we're going to those meetings. So I've been all right
with that, and a lot of times when I do it,
the player the person will reach out and be like, hey,
you were you were dead ass right about that, and uh,
you know, I appreciate it and keep it going. But
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as long as you come from the right place, uh,
you know, it hasn't been a problem so far, all right,
So now it's time to trash somebody. The Giants do.
They have a quarterback Danny Dimes thing called Daniel Jones,
and I'm I'm I'm looking. Something's missing here. Is he
the quarterback of the future for the Giants because their
offense is abysmal? Absolutely? Not absolutely. I mean, you see
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him and you can watch me, and you can say, hey,
this kid's got potential. He's got an arm, he can
make all the throws. He's athletic. You know, some people
call him sneaky after he's just puriently athletic. Um. But
it's just it just hasn't come together. And you know,
you can blame it on whatever you want to blame
it on, but it's a result of results oriented business.
And that was Antoine's former teammates. So he called him
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Danny DVEs. I told him a calling what his mom
and name is, Daniel Jones to feel proved otherwise. And
I haven't seen anything close to Danny Dimes. So obviously,
I'm always hopeful for players that they can turn around.
But how it looks now, man, they're gonna have to
address that quarterback position. They won't have a chance, you know,
to really compete, not only in that division, but you know,
to be a real contender. You played the bulk of
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your career in Indianapolis, so they have a reclamation project
that quarterback with Carson Wentz. He was okay in Week one,
but obviously they lost, so it's all for not. But
do you think he is the guy there that he
can kind of resurrect his career and get back to
or even close to the MVP for me showed back
in twenty seventeen. Yeah, I thought, and you know, he
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gets the most hyper credit for an MVP that he
never warned than anybody else's sports. But he did have
a good year, and he had that good year with Frank, right,
so I thought, you know, kind of even midway through
last season, you know, you kind of saw that writing
on the wall and he was he was sticking it
up and everything around him was as well. And I
saw that, you know, I thought that it looked Frank,
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and not only Frank, but being in Indianapolis, been in Midwest,
you guys, know, you covered sports forever. Being in Philly,
that's a totally different beach coming from North Dakota, So
you get out there in m D. You know, that's
just better for a psyche, you know, this type of
thing that he's into hunting and things like that. So
I think ultimately he can't turn his career around there,
but he will maybe never be an MVP type quarterback.
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But I think that building that team, I think they're
built to be a winner long term, and I think
it will be some stability there. They just locked up
Jim and the head coach, so I think he'll be
all right there. I don't I don't see him being
an MVP type guy, but I do see him potentially,
you know, taking those guys down. And you know the
stretch of the playoffs. What did you make of Week one?
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Aaron Rodgers Obviously a terrible game, coming off of an
unbelievable MVP season he had, but he didn't you know,
he talked a lot during the off season, a lot
of noise, and then he laid a stinker in Game one. Yeah,
he laid the egg. He laid an egg. And the
start the season, especially a season like this, it'll be
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a lot of teams who came out and stunk it up,
or who came out and looked like Super Bowl champions.
In Week one and week two he'll look completely different.
So I think, you know, kind of after that first
four or five games of the season, will really have
a grip on who everybody is. But I mean, this
is just Aaron Rodgers were talking about. I think he'll
definitely turn around and that team will be all right.
He'll be all right. I think the Saints did a
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great job with everything that's going on outside of football,
you know in Louisiana with her Cane Iida and you know,
being displaced, and you know, choosing Florida to be the
place to bring a rod too, and then the defense,
you know, coming out handling the business from white to wire,
putting Jamis in great situations. I thought Jamis would have
a great year this year. He started off, you know,
you could start off better than five touchdowns no picks.
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So I think that was more about New Orleans just
I mean, just executing a game plan on all three
phases of the game to a t and Green Bay
never really got comfortable. It kind of looked very similar
to when they got walked up on early in the
season with the Bucks last year. But I think green
Bay lb all right. Then Rogers always seems to have
a bad game. There's a really bad game in the
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mix somewhere during the season. He had it at Tampa Bay.
A couple of years ago. He had a stinker at
San Francisco and San Diego, you remember that. I mean,
and against the Chargers. So he always squeezes one in.
But I think, if you're the Lions on Monday Night,
you better be ready. The DBS, you better be ready.
Oh yeah, you better, you better be ready. And the Lions.
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You know, the Lions shows some fight. Man. I was
kind of, you know, proud of the Lions. You know
they I turned turned that game off. Actually everything on
I think thirty eight seventeen. I turned back on thirty
one thirty eight. So they showed some fight, golf shows
and fight. I kind of wrote golf off. But we'll see.
You can see what MCDC does out there with their
new regime. It got a new GM so you know,
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we'll see. But I think they hold it down at
Green Band at home and they get back on the
winning ways. Speaking of Detroit, they obviously had the new coach,
Dan Campbell, and he's different, you know, talking about bite,
kneecaps and as a player, you know, we're from the
outside looking in. But if you're a player, are you
guys mocking that making fun of it in the locker room? Uh?
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Think it's corny or do you respect it? And you
know he's a football player and that's football talk, you know, like,
how do you read? How do you how do you
think most players look at that stuff? Honestly, it's just
about the results. Man, if you're building a winner, if
you're showing you know, if guys are bought in, and
you know, week in week out, regardless if you're winning
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the game or now, it's always it's not always kind
of about the result. But if you can see that
process and then kind of where your team is. You know,
do you have an older veteran team, do you have
a guy a team that's kind in the middle. I
think you have a quarterback in golf who's trying to
resurrect and almost you know, long as somebody's believing in him,
you know him and the rest of the guys who
are believing him. So I don't have a problem with
with Dan Campbell, but you know, if they get to
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three and eleven in the season, they're not competitive and
you're not showing any progression. Okay, now we gotta get
it out, get him out of here and get something
more you know, traditional or whatever. But if he has
quirky ways and crazy things and it's actually working in
the fan base is buying in the team, and it's identity.
That's a blue collar city. So as long as they're
they're showing competitive and fighting in something. You know, Lions
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that those fans have been struggling for a while. So
if they're showing something, that's a progress. Way before you
got one playoff wins, way before I can document it.
I covered the Lions for twenty years. I saw so
many losses in the NFL. But the only good thing though,
was that I could start writing my column at halftime.
Because again, man, they gotta pay They gotta pay cch
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his money. Man, they gotta give him that blood. No way,
I know, I'll debate you left and right. No way
does he deserved that money. He quit, he quit. There's
no way that they delioned. You give a guy money
who quit, honor, No, you know this guy went out. No,
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I ain't buying them, so uh they put together come
and do twenty eight hours of appearances and this and
that like but they're being nice. They shouldn't even give
him the money back. Barry Sanders gave back like ten
million dollars to the Lions or whatever it was. Do
you know that won't be right. They won't be right
until they They haven't. They haven't been right way before Calvin.
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Let me tell you something. If it if the roles
were reversed and the Lions weren't paying Calvin Johnson because
he because he quit or you know, tried to hold
money from him, people would go crazy. They don't owe
Calvin Johnson and Nickel. They paid him all the money
he deserved. It's not always about what you look what
you know are he tore shoulder. We know how he
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messed his shoulder up. He he retired before. No, he
didn't quit, you know million anyway, you laid it on
the line. Go enjoy your new kid, and don't quit
because he couldn't think he was heard. Guys. Well, unfortunately
we got to move on, and we want to because yeah,
I already got him. You're good man, you're doing your thing,
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keep it up and you're gonna be You're gonna be
fine in this media space. So we will get you
on again. Man, We really like you. Hey, appreciate you.
Guys happening man, yea peace. He's good, Rob, He'll say
something I like that. Thanks for listening to The Odd
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New York Giants, both teams in need of a victory
and Danny Jones in need of a good game because
New York is getting in patient with him. And Spencer Rattler,
who I know is off to a rough start at
Oklahoma right now, but he is projected by many to
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be the top quarterback in this draft. And the thing
is Oklahoma They've produced Jalen Hurts, Kyler, Murray Baker Mayfield,
so lately their quarterbacks have done their thing at the
next level. So Daniel Jones better start producing or the
Giants might start looking toward the future with somebody else.
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We got Greg Jennings, super Bowl champion and body builder supreme.
That's right, also a Fox Sports NFL analyst. He will
join us at the bottom of the hour and another
playing tonight. Huh, he's activated. Okay, finally he is playing. Well,
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you know, he played last week, but they've kind of
partially played him. Um didn't do much. Okay, I didn't.
I didn't know that they had activated him. I thought
they were still waiting on him. Well, he played, but
then coming out of that game they were he was
questionable for tonight. I guess on the short rest. But still,
but Rob, let's go to the I mean, my goodness,
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And I know, you know, people like to make fun
of the Dallas Cowboys, and they're so much to make
fun of. It's been what, Rob, twenty five years since
they they've won four playoff games? Is that it? In
the last twenty five years haven't won a Super Bowl.
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I mean, this is a team that was as everybody
knows because they're still quote unquote America's team, But they
actually were good back in the day when we were
growing up, starback and Tony dors said, Hollywood Henderson, Drew Pearson,
two Tall Jones, all those guys, and now they are
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basically running on fumes. But I picked them to make
the playoffs this year and have a nice season, and
they looked pretty good and losing to the defendant Super
Bowl champions Tampa Bay Buccaneers on opening Night last week.
But Rob, I mean, this is the type of thing
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that makes you wonder, are they snake bitten under Jerry
Jones now? Because DeMarcus Lawrence rob their best pass rusher,
he broke his foot in practice on Wednesday. He's out
six to eight weeks. Their second best pass rusher, Randy Gregory.
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He is on the COVID protocol, so he's likely to
be out as well on Sunday. Not only that, Michael Galloped,
their third receiver, was placed on injured reserve with a
cash strain that he suffered in the game against Tampa Bay.
Right tackle Lyle Collins. Lyle Collins was suspended five games
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for violating the NFL Substance Abuse Poe. This came out
like a day after the game, and they already were
without Zach Martin, their great offensive lineman in Game one
because of COVID. Now he'll be back. But Rob the
insult to injury leon. Let remember him a Super Bowl infamy.
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He's one of their coaches. Now. He injured his knee
in practice. I don't know what in the world he
was doing. He had ball and he was running down
the field, and not only did his did the ball
slip out of his hands, his knee gave out and
he fell out. But this, I mean, it just Rob.
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If it's not one thing with the Cowboys, it's another.
I look, and I'm sticking with him as the pick.
I mean, I think that's a bad division. Philly looked
much better than everybody expected. But we'll see if that continues.
But you know, they got a light schedule, so I
think they still can have a good year. In fact,
I'm gonna say that. You know, I came on last week.
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I came on last Friday, and after Dak threw up
four hundred plus yards in a loss to Tampa Bay,
I said, all right, it's been two years into making
I was calling him in route to elite, and I
said it last Friday. Rob, Dak Prescott is now elite.
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I'm convinced and I'm gonna put this on him if
he's now elite. And I'm not the only one that
feels that way. You know, I'm not saying he's in
the class of Brady and Rogers and Mahomes and those guys,
but he you know, there's another class of elite below them.
That's where he's at. But if he is indeed in
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that class, Rob, no excuses. I just read off a
litany of injuries and COVID missus and all that. I
don't care. If you're elite, there are times when you
can lift your team. I'm not saying you lift them
by yourself to the super Bowl, but you can lift
them to some regular season victories. And Rob, he's got
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to show it. We all we've talked about it at
nauseum that he can beat some winning teams. I know
it's Week two, but the Chargers are a winning team.
They're winning. Oh, so I'm saying, Dak Prescott, they're O
and one ride. We talked about the O and two.
What that means Dak Prescott needs to go out and
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lift the Cowboys to victory over the Chargers. If he's elite,
I think at some point you do have to win
those games. You can't always it's the NFL. People are
hurt every week, so you can't just use that as
your crutch. Oh we didn't have this, We didn't have that.
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There are certain games they have to win. If they
lose this week, then you'll start to look and go, well,
what's actually happened here? They played well in losing or
you know, a close game, but a game they need.
They just it's like they know what's stacked up against them.
I know the division is weak. They should win the division.
I don't have to make the playoffs. It's a big
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game for Washington because Washington they have a defense and
I don't know where they're where they're going with the
you know quarterback who he looked goods. They played in
the playoffs against Tampa Bay, right, and Taylor hook decent
and Taylor what is it heine Taylor Heineke? Yeah, yeah,
and he looked decent. But the defense is the strength
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of that team. And the Cowboys. I don't know. I
think it's a mixed bag. Mike McCarthy, I'm not game
on him. I'm not keen on him. Um, they gotta
get a more balanced attack. They gotta run the football.
Dak is putting up numbers, but they don't win. They
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don't win when he puts up those numbers. And that
if I if I'm looking at at it, I don't
know if they're analytics about it, is somebody looking to
say because this is what Tony Dungee pointed to when
Dak got hurt. So this is not me or some
other talking head or just somebody who doesn't know football.
This is Tony Dungee won a Super Bowl and he
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said it. It sounded like a slight of Dak when
he said it, but he was like, this may be
a blessing in disguise. This might be great for the
Cowboys from the standpoint that they'll go back to running
the football, which is when they were at their best.
And I get it. Ezekiel Elliott's not the same guy.
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That's what I was gonna ask you, Rob, is he
do you think he can carry them like he did
his first few years. I don't know, but I think
they need to try if because I would say to you,
Dak puts up big numbers and they lose again and
Ezekiel Elliott has twenty five yards or he doesn't do anything.
At some point, you got to figure out something with
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the running back because I don't think they're going to
get where they want to get to without running the
football effectively. Well, you need some balance, there's no doubt
about it. And Kellen Moore, the offensive coordinator for the Cowboys, Rob,
he said they called twelve other plays running plays for Ezekiel,
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and Dak checked out of him. You know, Zeke's best friend.
So I don't think he was doing it. You know,
he wasn't doing it to keep it from Zeke, but
that's what the defense looked like they were giving him.
And he thought that those were, you know, better suited
for pass plays. But they do have to get some balance.
The interesting thing, Rob, is that Ezekiel Elliott he statistically
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you asked about, like the analytics, statistically, he gets better.
He's best at his best between Carrie's eleven and twenty.
He's he's much better at eleven through and he is
at one through ten. He had eleven. I believe he
hadn't even get warmed up. Eleven carries for thirty three
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yards exactly, and they I think you gotta get him
at least fifteen carries and get that back and you
know what else, Rob, Tony Polard's not bad. He's not
in every down back, but I like Tony Pollard too.
So however they do it, if they have to do
it running back by committee, I think they can do that.
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But I do think Rob that the days of the
running game being their primary focus. Like they're not obviously
the Ravens, but they're not even the Browns. And I
say even I shouldn't have even thrown that in there,
because the Browns have a tremendous running game, but that's
not who the Cowboys are. I do believe Rob Dak
is going to have to carry him. He doesn't have
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to throw for four hundred yards and all that. But
I just think that they've transferred from being a running
team with a game managing quarterback who could make some
plays here there, which is what Dak used to be too.
Now I think he is. When I say elite, that's
part of the elite description for me. You can you
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put the team on your back and problem. He's got
to show it. I get it. But that doesn't mean
they won't win, you know, So I think he can win.
Putting up those numbers. The numbers against Tampa Bay were
not stat path for numbers, you know, to use your phrase.
They weren't in a blowout when they're desperate and the
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defenses in a soft prevent and all that. They were
legitimate numbers. I mean, they moved the football up and
down the field on Tampa Bay. So I do think
he can do that. They'll get need some help from
the running game. But I do think Da can do
it by himself, and he's just got to go out
and prove it. Rob. Yeah, well it starts this week
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and they got to start winning some games. It's just
you can't keep filling the stat sheet but not winning games.
And that's where the Cowboys are. And I know they've
had injuries and all kinds of stuff. New coach. The
defense was horrible last year and sometimes he had no
choice but to throw it. You can't be down twenty
one points and run the football, So I get that,
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but they need to start the games with a little
more balance and try to get Ezekiel. You just said it.
He's better between eleven and twenty carries, so he only
got eleven. He need more. You gotta see if this
guy has anything left. And that was Tampa Bay's a
great run defense, arguably best in the league. So you
know you would expect him to get more shots and
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have more success against the charges. But we'll see. That's
the game you gotta be watching out for. Thanks for
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Podcast and wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we
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from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Hit it. And if
you're wondering why we play the sultry sounds of Diana
Ross the Boss, it's because he's a lean, mean, bodybuilding machine.
(26:16):
He don't eat food no more. He don't. I don't know.
I don't know what he's eating, but it's just unbelievable.
I don't know. What do your kids say when they
see you? I mean, you look like verb or something
from do you remember the cartoon verb? Greg Jenny's what's
up man? What's happening? Man? Look? I eat food? Yeah?
(26:40):
What kind of food? What do you call food? Dinner?
Last night he had four cash you nuts and some water.
Absolutely not. My last meal was seven ounces of steak
and about one hundred and fifty grams of Brussels props.
My next meal, My next meal is about to be
(27:00):
six ounces of chicken with a small little mixed salad
with tomatoes, kale, laruga cucumbers. Yeah, man, I'm eating. Okay,
all right, you're gonna wash it down with some molten
chocolate cake. I'm gonna wash it down with a nice
thirty two hundreds of glass of water, actually a gatorade. Hey. Hey,
(27:25):
let me ask right now, Chris, if he ate a
piece of chocolate cake, he would gain forty pounds. That's
where he is at. My metabolism would it would literally
just burn it. Let me ask real talk. If you
ate like this during your career, do you think it
(27:48):
would have made a difference. Um, I definitely think it
would have made a difference. Energy level, being able to
sustain and have that level of endurance, um with with
with knowing what's going into your body versus every single
day you're switching it up and you're peeking high. One
(28:11):
day you're high, next day you're low because of all
the suits and the just a different caloric intake. Um,
it would make a difference that way. As far as performance,
I mean, it is what it is. I was a baller,
that's right, no doubt about. Hey, let's start here the
Giants and and uh Washington, they're playing Daniel Jones. What
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are you making? Touchdown? Rob? He's looking good on the
first drive. I was wondering was the whole play by
play during the game. But but, but, but Daniel Jones
just just where he is. If you're the Giants, are
you concerned? Are you not? Is it is he the fumbles?
Greg thirty fumbles eighteen loss in his first twenty eight game?
(29:00):
What is that about? Yeah, well, that definitely is something
you can turn yourself with when we're talking about the fumbles,
because at the quarterback position, you got to protect the football.
Like if we can't have if we can't rely on
you to protect the football. And I'm not even talking
about throwing the interceptions. You're the one that has the
ball in your hand on every offensive snap, and so
(29:22):
we got to be able to trust that you're gonna
do You're gonna do good by us, meaning protect the football.
But Daniel, he's shown flashes and he's so young. I
think the league is just it's changed because of all
the rules and the expectations we have because we've seen
young players at the quarterback position come in and have
(29:45):
immediate success. Like the Joe Burrows and guys like that,
like and so our expectations become based on the few
that actually live up to all the extra heights and
expectations set. And Daniel Jones, he's had some great games,
and he's obviously had some poor games. He just had
(30:07):
a great drive. They moved the pocket, he used his feet,
he threw the ball. He had a time where he
should have thrown the ball. Let it go. A young
mental mistake, but you're gonna have that. When you're talking
about a guy who's in year three. You hope that
he grows out of it. But the fumbles, the turnovers,
you can't live with that, you can't win with that.
(30:30):
Let's go Greg to a veteran who had a bad
week one and one of your former teammates. You guys
won a Super Bowl together, Aaron Rodgers. Do you know him?
Do you think I've heard all manner. Everybody's got a
view of what happened. I've heard some guys say just
one game, just a bad game to worry about, and
(30:50):
others have said it is more a sign that he's
not all in that when you look at what happened
in the offseason, you know, he's just not all there.
Where are you at on what happened in Week one
and moving forward, well, I'll start hearing he's definitely in
it to win it. Now as far as how far
(31:14):
in it, he's not as far in because based on
what he showed us this off season, it was him
being removed from the team and him not going through
the off season problem. All those things that he typically
does he didn't do. So there is something there. Period.
(31:35):
There is something to be said when a guy doesn't
do that and then he performs like that. What I
will say is this, it's no difference than a guy
getting paid what happened to Aaron Rodgers. And this is why, guys,
this is why I never was one to really speak
out and to put my quarterback on blasts or a
teammate for that matter, because the expectations you have now
(31:59):
of yourself are set higher and it's because of you,
because of what you have done, or because of what
you chose not to do. And so that's what we're seeing.
Aaron Rodgers shose not to show up this offseason. He
chose to make it about whatever it was about. And
with that being the case, you can't afford to come
(32:20):
and play like that because everybody's now going to directly
relate it to he wasn't there, He's not all the
way in. That can very well be the case, but
it can very well not be. But what can't happen
is you give us that ability to kind of perceive
it that way based on your performance, because it says, yeah,
(32:44):
I might, I should, I should have had more time,
or I wasn't as prepared or what the case, whatever
the case may be. But I think he's gonna be fine.
I think the Packers are going to be fine. It
was not a good showing. I think it was a
poor showing, not only by Aaron Rodgers, but by that
defense um their inability to be prepared for Jameis Winston
(33:05):
and what that offense is going to look like. How
about the tour? Did he went over some people in Miami.
I know it's only week one, but you know they've
been so down. They didn't vote him a captain and
they talked about drafting another quarterback. It was even talking
about trading to Sean Watson for to Miami, and that
(33:26):
the Textians didn't want to in the trade. I'm just
trying to figure out, Uh, where's Tah at this point? Well,
I think Ta has a lot more maturing to do.
He has. He's gaining experience. The more playing time he gets,
the more starts he gets underneath his belt. They've obviously
put the weapons around him, so they're what when when
(33:48):
you see organizations surround quarterbacks with what they need, they're
eliminating all the excuses. Now it's on you. It's on
you to make it work. And with Ta, it is
on him. We've seen what you look like when you
had a bunch of weapons in Alabama. We've seen what
it looked like when you were able to run the
(34:09):
type of offense that made you comfortable. That's what they're
doing now in Miami. It's it's basically going to be
on tour. It's to make or break. Anytime you see
them surrounding an individual with talent. We taught with Dak
Prescott and we said, up all the talent around Dak,
they're making back Da better. Well, now we see it
(34:31):
wasn't just that they were making Dac brother, he was
making everybody around him better as well. All Right, that's
our man, Greg Jennings. We appreciate the knowledge is always brother.
I appreciate you guys. Enjoy that Kale was it? Yeah?
(34:52):
Sounds tape, magnet oil a delicious, A little larugla on
my scalp. I went to the do amatologists. I'm good now,
all right, great, thanks brother, to see you next week.
All right, Thank you guys,
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