September 30, 2021 • 34 mins
Chris and Rob debate whether or not New England Patriots fans should boo Tom Brady in his return to Foxborough this Sunday, and tell us why they wouldn’t make a trade offer for Deshaun Watson – even if the Houston Texans are suddenly willing to strike a deal. Plus, 'Brother from Another' on Peacock TV host Michael Smith swings by to discuss Brady's return, what led to Brady's departure in the first place, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Huge ticket. Everybody obviously is talking about this game. You
got a huge book coming out. You know, it's better
to be feared by Seth Wickersham. It's already you know,
we talked a bit about it yesterday and everybody's been
talking about different excerpts from the book on their different shows,
radio and TV. But um, let me let me throw
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this at you, because you know I have my thoughts,
but I want to get yours. How do you think
that the Boston fans should react to Tom Brady. I
think it's simple. I think fans of Boston should stand
up and boom Tom Brady from top to bottom. They
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should boom Benedict Brady as much as they can. He's
the one who decided it was about him and not
about the organization. He's the one who turned his back
on the Patriots uniform, on the Patriots fans, on what
they had built there, and decided it wasn't enough to
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be a part of something special and a great run
in NFL history. No, Tom Brady had to go elsewhere
to prove it's about him. He's the most selfish player
on the planet. It's always about Tom Brady. People of Boston,
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New England. Unite on my arm, grab each other's hands,
and boom loud and strong and let him know you're
wearing another uniform. We don't care about Tom Brady anymore.
When he was wearing the home team Jersey, we loved
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everything about Tom Brady. Tom Brady was supposed to be
Derek Jeeter. He was supposed to play twenty years in
the same uniform. He was supposed to retire as a
New England Patriot. That's when he should have got his
flowers and people should have stood up and revered him. Instead,
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he walked out on the city of Boston and the
people of New England to go to some Mickey mouse
town like Tampa Bay. That's what he decided. He should
have never wore another uniform. He should have held that
organization and his twenty years in Boston a sacred. Michael
Jordan made that mistake. Others have made that mistake. Derek
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Jeeter was smart, He was a Yankee through and through.
Nobody could ever have anything to say about Derek Jeeter,
and that's the way it should have been about Tom Brady.
Tom Brady should have never had split allegiances where people
would turn their nose to him and think, look at
this papous ass. It was about him. He didn't care
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about winning, about us. Why would he need to go anywhere?
Wasn't enough? He needed more? It was crack winning a
Super Bowl for Tom Brady. Stand up in boot Boston
and do it loud and hard like the meaning I
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think the boozer for that take. Are you serious, Rob Parker?
Will you stop it? This is outright foolishness. My goodness,
I hope you enjoyed yourself. I'm watching you smiling. You're
tickling yourself, and you know you tickled pink with yourself.
You taped it. You had a little tape recorder playing.
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You're gonna play it back tonight and help yourself fall
asleep on the play. Oh I told off Tom Brady.
I'll tell you that. Don't mess with Rob Parker. I
should have been Tom Brady hater number one. You gave
it to Max Kellerman. I told you. You You can't believe that.
I was devastated by that. Yes, and this was your
get back, rob Let. Let's just keep it real. Um,
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they should not boo Tom Brady. You can boom him
during the game, but Boston fans show your class. Rob
wants you to show you. I want you to show
your class. All right, it rhymes with class. That's I
don't know, but but that's what Rob wants you to show.
I want you to show some class, and I think
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you will. Before the game, I assume they're gonna do
a video montage, and what a mintage it will be
with not one, not two, not three, not four, not nine,
keep it coming, keeping come six? Six? Is it six championships?
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Six game winning drives, That's what it'll be. And you cheer,
your arms and legs and throats off. You show him
you appreciate him making you a championship city. The New
England Patriots were darn near a joke before time Brady
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got there. I'm a winning season here there, get to
a super Bowl here there, but never win. Your claim
to fame was Steve Grogan. That's it. And he came
there and made you the biggest franchise in the NFL.
You cheer him. Heck, it might even work in your favorite.
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Maybe you get him so emotional that he can't play
his game. I doubt it, but hey, it's worth a try.
And then once the game starts, hey, half at it.
He is the enemy. Then you boom when Mac Jones
throws a touchdown pass. If Mac Jones throws a touchdown pass,
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you cheered Brady? Who? Brady? Who? When Brady's on the field,
you boom so he can't they can't hear his snap
he's snap count. He already has a hoarse voice. If
you listen to his interview today, that's how you do it.
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But show your class and not your ass. You don't
owe him anything. You already cheered him first. You already
gave him, You already gave him parade, You already showered
him with love. You did all that. You don't owe
him anything else. He don't care about the city of
Boston or New England. He washed his hands, Say that's
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who he washed his hands. But Michael Jordan didn't care
about the city of Chicago. We're talking about Tom Brady.
James didn't care about the city of Cleveland. We're talking
about Tom Brady. And you know, whatever you want, I'm
talking about Tom Brady. He shunned you, He told you
you weren't good enough. You can't care about the KI
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cared about him? Off your Miss Reddy Bill Belichick, Missreraddy
Bill Belichick. Thought he was done, and now he's been embarrassed,
and he's about to be embarrassed the more on Sunday.
That's the reason he's not there. How much is a
man supposed to take? You talk to me like I'm
a sophomore in high school. You won't give me any
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extension that I want. You won't get me the skilled
position players we need. So yeah, I left, and guess
what I want? A super Bowl? That's what he's saying.
Derek Jeter, He's better than Derek Jeter. Stop it. He's
way above Derek Jeter. As great as Jeter is it
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ain't It ain't nineteen fifty nine, not even nineteen seventy nine.
Players move. Lebrine has been all over the place. His
legacy is awesome. Jordan left, his legacy is awesome. Mintana left,
His legacy is awesome. It happens. So you cheer the man,
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and then, heck, when he's demolishing your team with four touchdowns,
my prediction, maybe it cheer him. Then. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard
and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern, four pm
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(08:52):
I'm Doug Gottliep. But the podcast is called All Balls.
We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
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golib on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or ever you
get your podcast. It's our next guest, longtime friend of ours,
longtime colleague, Mike does a tremendous job, and he is
now the co host of Brother from Another pet And
that's how you say it, not brother from another Brother
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from Another on Pete Cock our man Michael Smith, Am
I wrong? Am? I That's how I wanted to spell it,
But it was like, all right, now you going too far? No,
But that would have been good. You know what, Mike,
I'm the only one on local TV news history. When
I did the ten PM Sports in Detroit, I had
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a segment called Homeboy Highlights and Homeboy was spelled with
an eye. That was on the news in Detroit Homeboy
with an Eye. Could you believe that? Actually, yes, we
can believe it. And the fact that you still got
the Homeboy highlights on MLB bro dot com. Uh, Rob, Mike,
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if you didn't know, Rob just continues to use the
same old cliches and wherever he goes. He had a
show in Detroit called The Eye Couple. We got various
days TV theme songs, third Trash Talking Tuesday. He's at
all these elsewhere he plays, he plays the hits. He
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came on brother from another couple of days ago. It
hit me with the no way no how I mean
you know he plays the hits man. No, we we
just caught off the other day. It's good to be
with y'all. Chris, I know you mad busy man, but
man looking forward to have him both the I want
to do a four box. Yeah, we got that on
the That would be great. I had a lot of fun.
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And if you haven't checked out the show, you need
to do that on Peacock. So yes, so all right, Mike, Mike,
look to it. Yeah, you you are very familiar with Boston.
You worked there, what you still live in Boston. I'm
in Connecticut now, but you and you've been there. Yeah,
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So we were just talking and Rob was saying he
thinks that I disagree with him, but he was saying
he thinks that the fans should boo Tom Brady. Um.
Talk about your feelings on that and how you what
reaction you think there. I know you're not surprised what
reaction you actually think the fans will get Brady. I mean,
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I think if anybody a shifted to boo Tom Brady
at any point in the game, I think they'd probably
be escorted out and escorted as a nice word, uh,
the scored out of Gilette stadium. Um. Because not only
can you, not only are you obligated, in my opinion,
if you're a New England sports fan or a Patriots fan,
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I'm only obligated to shower this man with praise and
worship for the dynasty that he helped build. Okay, he
gave them a twenty year run of excellence and six
Super Bowl championships and nine appearances the narrative, and he's
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winning the PR battle. He's won the PR battle, you know,
like since he left, nobody's blaming him. Usually when usually
when the guy comes back and you know, we know
about the jersey burning and everything like that. Usually when
the guy comes back, they come, they get booed because
they decided to leave. I e Lebron, I'm taking my
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talent to South Beach. Right, the narrative and even with
Seth Ricker Shamble's book is better to be feared coming
out the narrative and the spin is that they didn't
want him back, or they didn't try hard enough to
keep him, or they gave him the choice but to
leave because they mistreated him or didn't treat him with
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the respect that he deserved towards the end. So he goes,
wins the Super Bowl somewhere else, and the only people
that look bad to the fans right now, at least
based on what I could tell, is Belichick and by extension,
Craft for letting him go. So I just don't know
why any legitimate Patriots fan, many of whom have named
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their children or pets after Tom Brady, would boo Tom Brady.
If anything, it should be like coming to America. They
should be dropping rolls pedals at this man's feet on
his way out the locker room to the field. Dude,
they gave him goodness, I mean enough already he's not
wearing the home team uniform. He was supposed to be
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Derek Jeter and players entire career in pinstripes and represent
New England, represent Boston. Didn't didn't you give him a parade?
Didn't you? Sound with love? Whose fault is it that
he didn't finish his career? And it was his he
left because you know this, Mike, It's always been about
Tom Brady. He wasn't satisfied. I need to go and
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let everybody know that. It wasn't about the defension time
and Adam Venitary, it wasn't about me. So I take rob.
I love that take because you could say he spurned
them and they were no longer good enough for him,
or he wanted a chance, or or you could be
like they left me no choice. Look at the doctor.
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The roster around me was deteriorating. I wanted a two year,
fifty million dollars deal like Drew Brees got in New Orleans.
But they wouldn't sign me until I was forty five
years old because the genius head coach thought I was done.
Oh guess guess he was wrong about that. You know,
I wanted to stay, but he wanted to continue to
treat me like I was twenty years old. Like again,
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that's what I mean about to spin like the pr
machine is in full effect right now, suggesting that he
would have finished his career in New England had the
Patriots done a little bit more to keep him, even
something as minute as well, when Brady, this is in
seth book, When Brady decided that he wasn't going, that
he was gonna leave, Belichick, Oh, the nerve of Belichick
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did not meet him in person. He talked to him
on the phone on the way out, even though Brady
was the one leaving. So I hear you, Rob, But
I don't believe the fans see it that way. They
see a guy who is still at the top of
his game who Belichick decided to let go because Belichick miscalculated. Mike,
let me ask you this, and look, Belichick's legacy is set.
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You know, there are a lot of the greatest coaches
Chuck Noel, Don Shuler, Tom Laird, you go on and
on their careers didn't in you know that well, they
weren't winning at the end for several years, so his
legacy set. But in New England, what do you if
they don't and they're long ways away from a super
Bowl obviously, if they don't win another super Bowl, and
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if they aren't even perennial playoff contenders, how much of
a hit do you think Belichick will take in real time? Again,
his legacy will be set, but in real time, how
disgruntle do you think the fans up there will be
discruntel with his legacy or with him? How long before
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they're talking about making a change When you mean yeah,
I just mean like, will they really begin complaining about Belichick?
And will he take a hit in the present because
they're not winning and who knows radio winning for a
couple of reasons. One um, and they've been waiting twenty
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years for it. The media will not be patient with him.
They've been waiting twenty years to be able to, you know,
knock him down a peg or two. Given the way
his relationship with the local media, So you'll have no
friends in the media. You'll have zero friends in the
media if these struggles continue last year, transition year, okay,
first first losing season, and you know since two thousand,
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you get a pass. But if this continues or they'll
definitely be called for them to move on that the
game has passed him by, or that he's being exposed,
if they're not already, by the way, if they may
be already those those whispers, right fans, I don't think
anybody is going to I think it's gonna tarnish his legacy.
And they're so spoiled here in New England and in Boston,
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They've enjoyed such a long period of winning. I don't
think that they're gonna have a short fuse with him,
per se. What I think is most fascinating is that
we never thought we would ever get anything close to
an answer. It's like which came first to chicken or
the egg? Like, I don't think that there's an answer
to that, right a point, who's more responsible, Brady or Belichick.
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The point wasn't to arrive at an answer. But with
Tom going to Tampa Bay and winning a Super Bowl
the very first season, and if he continues, I've already
predicted that he's gonna build another dynasty in Tampa and
he continues on the course that he's on while the
Patriots continue to struggle in his absence, it's gonna go
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a long way to being like, well, wait a second,
you know, Belichick in Cleveland, was I at best in
two dollars he was five and eleven. He gets with
Brady and their dominant Brady Leeds and Brady keeps doing
this thing and Belichick doesn't like maybe it was Brady
all along. I know, I know, Rob. I'm sorry, Rob,
you already, man, I may come on like like Bill
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Belichick helped booth that Giants defense that won two super Bowls,
and then and then the first three super Bowls, Tom
Brady had like four touchdowns and in the playoffs and
then point yes by Adam Venetarry's foot and if Adam
Venetarry missed three field goals in the Super Bowl, you
wouldn't even mention Tom Brady's name. But they come on
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like let's be honest, like like brought me on the show.
That brought me on the show just to have help him,
because like I hope you'll have a break out. Probably
got to go to the bathroom and throw up. Yes,
you see what I deal with every single day. I mean,
this week has been crazy because we had Jack, we
had to fight night. It's like a week long Brady
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loved and then Sunday it was Stafford against Brady. So
that was another day for me. It's been a rob
Are you gonna be rooting extra hard for the Patriots
to win on Sunday? Well, you know it doesn't matter
who wins. Yes, and don't even watch the game, but
it'll be what's good now, you know, I'll watch it
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with the sound turned down because I can't, you know,
you know, like it will be over the top disgusting,
you know, like like fawning all over Tom Brady. Let
me just say I will say this though, listen to
answer the question more precisely or concisely, Like everybody's legacy
is secure, Like you know, neither one of them would
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have been what they are without the other one. But
I'm just saying in terms of perception, you know, Brady
being successful apart from Belichick certainly helps Brady's case, But
Brady isn't the guy that's having a success in Tampa
without what he learned from Belichick or what he did
with Belichick. Like all of the idea that Brady once
again got with a great defense that helped Patrick Mahomes
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to no points in the Super or look at the
NFC title game against you born Aaron Argers, right, didn't
have his best day. He had we picked in the
second half and could have coughed up the game. It
didn't happen. But but again, I just say, like, I know,
people want to give the quarterback all the credit. I
think Brady gets too much, that's all. But I think
you would. I think you would agree he's the most
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accomplished quarterback, no doubt. He's to say it all the time.
Most of them gonna be really fun. All the drama
in history and dirty laundry aside. Bro, We're gonna get
to see Belichick game plan for Tom Brady. That's gonna
be so much fun. It's gonna be great. It's gonna
be great. Speaking of fun, this has been fun. Mike, yes, man,
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and we gotta get you on again in the future
for the show anytime. I love y'all so much, man,
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Deshaun Watson situation not playing in Houston still got the
legal issues, which look like at least in the courts
um they won't be an issue until February. I believe
it is, but after the season still possibility. I guess
that he could end up on the commissioner's exemple list,
but there's really no sign of that either. We don't
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know where things stand with that. But our own Jay Glazer,
RB Fox Sports NFL Insiders one of the best in
the business. He tweeted out yesterday a series of interest
in tweets. Here's what he said. On Sunday, I shared
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that the Texans stance on trading Deshaun Watson has softened
where they weren't even returning calls from teams in camp.
That has changed ask for teams. To me, Miami makes
the most sense and probably has the best chance to
pull it off if Capitol letters a deal gets done.
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Keep your eyes on this situation. Hashtag scoopage, all right,
So basically, Rob, he's saying that, you know, early on
Houston was even taking calls or in trading Deshaun Watson.
Now they are at least taking calls and engaging in
discussions with other teams, and Miami looks like the front
runner before we go on, right, I gotta say this, Rob,
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I'm baffled by Houston's handling of this situation. We both
agree on this. We both agree they obviously have to
know something we don't know, because just on the surface, Chris,
just looking at it on the surface without knowing and
the inner workings or what have been done behind the scenes,
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it doesn't make sense, right, anybody got it all. You
don't have to be an NFL GM. You don't have
to be a head coach, you don't have to be
an agent. You don't. It doesn't on the surface. Now,
if they got some grand plan, or maybe they kicked
it down the camp down, you know the block, Chris,
and figure we'll get to it when we get to it,
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that's something else. But just on the surface, it's it
doesn't make sense. Well, especially considering Rob that the Texans,
who we all thought, well most of us, I'm not
sure you were there, but most of us thought they'd
be the worst team in the league. They actually look
like they'd be a pretty solid team. If they had
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Deshaun Watson. They were pretty solid, right, Chris. They were
in games. What if the games they beat Jacksonville handily,
They they played Cleveland tough. They were tied at fourteen
at the half before Tyrode got hurt. Hurt, right, They
were in that game, right, So so I gotta you
gotta give props. Look, it's early, but so far David
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Culley and his staff has done a good job with
that team. They're playing hard under some tough situations. But Rob,
if I've got a team that's competitive, I'm sorry. I'm
throwing Deshaun Watson in there. And I'm playing him because
there's for several reasons. One, until we trade him, maybe
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we can win some games. Two maybe, And I'm not
bending over backwards to please this dude. I'm a grown
man if I'm David Culley. But maybe you're just impressing right.
Maybe he likes you, maybe he sees the changes, maybe thinks,
you know what, this is a good staff. We actually
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got something something I like here. And maybe it's odds
he wants to stay so they should be playing and
we both agree on that. But let's look at it
from these other teams standpoint, whether it's Miami or someone else.
I get it. I mean, Deshaun Watson is great, and
he's better probably than twa ever will be. I mean it,
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maybe too, I'm not ready to throw in the towel
onto a Rob who's hurt right now. But I'm just saying,
even if TWA ends up being really good, I doubt
he's gonna be as good as Deshaun Watson. And so
I get I believe that, right, Not not at this point. No, no.
And but here's the thing. If I'm Miami, I I'm
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I'm I don't think I do it, Rob. And here's why.
Number One, I don't know if I'm gonna have him
for the future. Man. Even if I can have him
for the rest of this season, I don't know if
I'm gonna have him for next year and the year
after that and so on and so forth. And if
I give up three first round picks and a second
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plus a player, whatever the deal might be, and I lose,
I don't get Deshaun Watson for the future. I'm not
getting those picks back. Yes, his contract will be voided, Fine,
that's good, But I'm not getting those draft picks. Oh,
you made a deal, right, the deal's done. You're you're
you're I mean right, you can't, Chris. And that's the problem,
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because you know what God forbid. But the day they
come in and take Deshaun Watson out is the day.
You might as well pack up your office too, because
that'll be right right as Jim follow him right out
the door. Because you set the franchise back and you
can't get those picks back, Chris. And that's why it's
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too big up a risk and you could wind up
losing even if your owners on board, Robbing. The talk
is that the owner in Miami is on board, right.
He wants to shune even if he's on board, though,
and he's like, look if it if it blows up
in our face, I got you. I still I gotta
be honest, right, I mean, I guess look, if the
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owner's gonna make you do the deal, I guess you
gotta do the deal. But I'm just saying I wouldn't
even trust that, rob because if it does blow up
in your face, guess what the owner's gonna be looking for,
escapegoat and then they think he's gonna trade, fire himself
or sell a team. No, people will be crying bloody
murder and they'll be like, well, the general manager didn't
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talk me out of it, So you're the lame. You know,
you're the general manager, and you should have You should
have stuck to your guns and told me not to
do it. I mean that, or be like, hey, I
only I only own the team. I don't run football opera.
I don't know football. You're the football guy. You should
have told me. Nah, you're right. So and then here's
the other aspect of it, Robert and I maybe I'm
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grasping for straws, I don't know. But Number one, we
haven't seen Deshaun Watson played all season. Now, I'm sure
he's still a great quarterback. But you know it's gonna
take him a few weeks, right to get in shape,
get going. We're already in week four. And then Rob,
you don't know what his mental frame of mind is
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going to be. Now, some guys, I remember covering Kobe
Bryant in the midst of his trial in Colorado, and
he was trying, Yeah, flying Rob to Colorado for try
for court and flying back and playing in the game
that day or the next day again playing. Can you
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imagine that happening now, Chris, the team playing for that
a great case. Think about that where it's a different
America right now, right, that wouldn't happen. Yeah, But so
some guys will thrive off that. We all heard the cliche,
and it is true. Some guys the court, the field,
the diamond, whatever is their sanctuary, all right, but not
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everybody's like that. What if what if Deshan has trouble
focusing because he's concerned about his future, He concerned about
going to jail? You know what if he's not what
he used to be just mentally because of this situation,
and you might only have him for this year. So
I don't even know that it's a win even if
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you just get him for this year. Rob, So all
that being the case, as great as he is, I
wouldn't mess with if I'm another team, I wouldn't mess
with unless I got him for just some super cheap deal.
But otherwise I'm not messing with him. It's it's too risky.
And I think unless you're willing to stake your reputation,
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Chris and your future like as a GM, that's the
only way you make it. Because it's not only that then, Chris,
you also have the general public and your fan base
to sell them that this is okay, that this is cool. Right.
You gotta also there's a cell job yep, right, absolutely,
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you in Miami, just you just mentioned it the way
the country's changed. Right, what if Florence just said we
want people with character? Right, that's what I'm just I'm
giving you his words, ye ye, And then you're gonna
sell that to the fan base. And who's not saying
I'm not saying he's in he's guilty, right, Chris? Right?
And who knows what unsavory details could come out? I
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don't know that it's already been some stuff that's a
little out there, you know, but what what who knows
what could come out in the trial? And so you
you mentioned it. I mean, this isn't, thankfully the same.
It's it's it's bad. Both both the allegations are bad.
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But it's not quite the same as Uh, Trevor Bauer
with the Dodgers and did he play again for them?
Chris no been suspended the whole year, the whole season.
When what do you think? What do you think is
gonna happen to him? Let's say he doesn't end up
doing you know, getting legal punishment? Yeah, right, I think
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he'll be he won't come back to the Dodgers. Uh.
I think he might be out for a little while
and then um, after some sort of apology and his
behavior or whatever, you know what I mean, Like after
people feel like he put in some sort of punishment,
then I think he'll get another opportun somebody will give
him one. But he has to be contrite, you know
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what I mean. If if it, he has to come
back rehabilitated those exactly like like I've changed my ways,
I've done some stuff that I'm not proud of, and
I made a mistake and I'm looking for another opportunity
and to do right. I don't. I'm not one of
these people think that the people make mistakes and that's it.
People make mistakes all the time. But you got up, Chris.
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I say this all the time. If Pete Rose would
have apologized and said I made a mistake. I never
meant to hurt baseball. I didn't mean to gamble on
the game, and I'm gonna get help right for gamblers anonymous,
he would be in the Hall of Fame right now, Yeah,
he would, right? Yeah? People a people give in this country.
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Was he on the ballot? Was ever right? Right? Because
he was bamed? But you get my point is that
he never fessed up to it. Right, Well, it looked
like at a point he might get back get on
the ballot. Well, because they let him. You remember when
they let him come back to Cincinnati for the for
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the All Star Game, and then he came out with
a book right after that, Chris to make money, saying
that he did it after all that, right, right, But
you know, Rob, you know back then, I mean, they
made a lot lot of money for that time, but
it wasn't an amount of money that you could still today.
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So he probably needed money. But why that's no excuse.
But I'm just saying, oh no, it's totally that he
didn't make that much money. Back to right, I was
doing a thing about Dave Winfield when he signed a
big contract to come to the Yankees. He signed a
ten year, twenty three million dollar con Just think about that.
It was ten years. He was the highest paid player
in baseball ten years, Chris twenty three million, And think
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you you really only get half of that, right, and
that's your earnings. That's why these guys, you know, they're
they're gonna be done making money, you know. I mean,
obviously there are things they can do after the game,
but they're they're gonna be done making the bulk of
their money. In most cases at thirty five years old, ye,
So they gotta make what they can
Huge ticket. Everybody obviously is talking about this game. You
got a huge book coming out. You know, it's better
to be feared by Seth Wickersham. It's already you know,
we talked a bit about it yesterday and everybody's been
talking about different excerpts from the book on their different shows,
radio and TV. But um, let me let me throw
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this at you, because you know I have my thoughts,
but I want to get yours. How do you think
that the Boston fans should react to Tom Brady. I
think it's simple. I think fans of Boston should stand
up and boom Tom Brady from top to bottom. They
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should boom Benedict Brady as much as they can. He's
the one who decided it was about him and not
about the organization. He's the one who turned his back
on the Patriots uniform, on the Patriots fans, on what
they had built there, and decided it wasn't enough to
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be a part of something special and a great run
in NFL history. No, Tom Brady had to go elsewhere
to prove it's about him. He's the most selfish player
on the planet. It's always about Tom Brady. People of Boston,
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New England. Unite on my arm, grab each other's hands,
and boom loud and strong and let him know you're
wearing another uniform. We don't care about Tom Brady anymore.
When he was wearing the home team Jersey, we loved
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everything about Tom Brady. Tom Brady was supposed to be
Derek Jeeter. He was supposed to play twenty years in
the same uniform. He was supposed to retire as a
New England Patriot. That's when he should have got his
flowers and people should have stood up and revered him. Instead,
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he walked out on the city of Boston and the
people of New England to go to some Mickey mouse
town like Tampa Bay. That's what he decided. He should
have never wore another uniform. He should have held that
organization and his twenty years in Boston a sacred. Michael
Jordan made that mistake. Others have made that mistake. Derek
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Jeeter was smart, He was a Yankee through and through.
Nobody could ever have anything to say about Derek Jeeter,
and that's the way it should have been about Tom Brady.
Tom Brady should have never had split allegiances where people
would turn their nose to him and think, look at
this papous ass. It was about him. He didn't care
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about winning, about us. Why would he need to go anywhere?
Wasn't enough? He needed more? It was crack winning a
Super Bowl for Tom Brady. Stand up in boot Boston
and do it loud and hard like the meaning I
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think the boozer for that take. Are you serious, Rob Parker?
Will you stop it? This is outright foolishness. My goodness,
I hope you enjoyed yourself. I'm watching you smiling. You're
tickling yourself, and you know you tickled pink with yourself.
You taped it. You had a little tape recorder playing.
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You're gonna play it back tonight and help yourself fall
asleep on the play. Oh I told off Tom Brady.
I'll tell you that. Don't mess with Rob Parker. I
should have been Tom Brady hater number one. You gave
it to Max Kellerman. I told you. You You can't believe that.
I was devastated by that. Yes, and this was your
get back, rob Let. Let's just keep it real. Um,
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they should not boo Tom Brady. You can boom him
during the game, but Boston fans show your class. Rob
wants you to show you. I want you to show
your class. All right, it rhymes with class. That's I
don't know, but but that's what Rob wants you to show.
I want you to show some class, and I think
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you will. Before the game, I assume they're gonna do
a video montage, and what a mintage it will be
with not one, not two, not three, not four, not nine,
keep it coming, keeping come six? Six? Is it six championships?
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Six game winning drives, That's what it'll be. And you cheer,
your arms and legs and throats off. You show him
you appreciate him making you a championship city. The New
England Patriots were darn near a joke before time Brady
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got there. I'm a winning season here there, get to
a super Bowl here there, but never win. Your claim
to fame was Steve Grogan. That's it. And he came
there and made you the biggest franchise in the NFL.
You cheer him. Heck, it might even work in your favorite.
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Maybe you get him so emotional that he can't play
his game. I doubt it, but hey, it's worth a try.
And then once the game starts, hey, half at it.
He is the enemy. Then you boom when Mac Jones
throws a touchdown pass. If Mac Jones throws a touchdown pass,
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you cheered Brady? Who? Brady? Who? When Brady's on the field,
you boom so he can't they can't hear his snap
he's snap count. He already has a hoarse voice. If
you listen to his interview today, that's how you do it.
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But show your class and not your ass. You don't
owe him anything. You already cheered him first. You already
gave him, You already gave him parade, You already showered
him with love. You did all that. You don't owe
him anything else. He don't care about the city of
Boston or New England. He washed his hands, Say that's
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who he washed his hands. But Michael Jordan didn't care
about the city of Chicago. We're talking about Tom Brady.
James didn't care about the city of Cleveland. We're talking
about Tom Brady. And you know, whatever you want, I'm
talking about Tom Brady. He shunned you, He told you
you weren't good enough. You can't care about the KI
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cared about him? Off your Miss Reddy Bill Belichick, Missreraddy
Bill Belichick. Thought he was done, and now he's been embarrassed,
and he's about to be embarrassed the more on Sunday.
That's the reason he's not there. How much is a
man supposed to take? You talk to me like I'm
a sophomore in high school. You won't give me any
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extension that I want. You won't get me the skilled
position players we need. So yeah, I left, and guess
what I want? A super Bowl? That's what he's saying.
Derek Jeter, He's better than Derek Jeter. Stop it. He's
way above Derek Jeter. As great as Jeter is it
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ain't It ain't nineteen fifty nine, not even nineteen seventy nine.
Players move. Lebrine has been all over the place. His
legacy is awesome. Jordan left, his legacy is awesome. Mintana left,
His legacy is awesome. It happens. So you cheer the man,
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and then, heck, when he's demolishing your team with four touchdowns,
my prediction, maybe it cheer him. Then. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard
and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern, four pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Hey,
(08:52):
I'm Doug Gottliep. But the podcast is called All Balls.
We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
more about the stories about what made these people love
their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.
We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell
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golib on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or ever you
get your podcast. It's our next guest, longtime friend of ours,
longtime colleague, Mike does a tremendous job, and he is
now the co host of Brother from Another pet And
that's how you say it, not brother from another Brother
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from Another on Pete Cock our man Michael Smith, Am
I wrong? Am? I That's how I wanted to spell it,
But it was like, all right, now you going too far? No,
But that would have been good. You know what, Mike,
I'm the only one on local TV news history. When
I did the ten PM Sports in Detroit, I had
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a segment called Homeboy Highlights and Homeboy was spelled with
an eye. That was on the news in Detroit Homeboy
with an Eye. Could you believe that? Actually, yes, we
can believe it. And the fact that you still got
the Homeboy highlights on MLB bro dot com. Uh, Rob, Mike,
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if you didn't know, Rob just continues to use the
same old cliches and wherever he goes. He had a
show in Detroit called The Eye Couple. We got various
days TV theme songs, third Trash Talking Tuesday. He's at
all these elsewhere he plays, he plays the hits. He
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came on brother from another couple of days ago. It
hit me with the no way no how I mean
you know he plays the hits man. No, we we
just caught off the other day. It's good to be
with y'all. Chris, I know you mad busy man, but
man looking forward to have him both the I want
to do a four box. Yeah, we got that on
the That would be great. I had a lot of fun.
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And if you haven't checked out the show, you need
to do that on Peacock. So yes, so all right, Mike, Mike,
look to it. Yeah, you you are very familiar with Boston.
You worked there, what you still live in Boston. I'm
in Connecticut now, but you and you've been there. Yeah,
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So we were just talking and Rob was saying he
thinks that I disagree with him, but he was saying
he thinks that the fans should boo Tom Brady. Um.
Talk about your feelings on that and how you what
reaction you think there. I know you're not surprised what
reaction you actually think the fans will get Brady. I mean,
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I think if anybody a shifted to boo Tom Brady
at any point in the game, I think they'd probably
be escorted out and escorted as a nice word, uh,
the scored out of Gilette stadium. Um. Because not only
can you, not only are you obligated, in my opinion,
if you're a New England sports fan or a Patriots fan,
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I'm only obligated to shower this man with praise and
worship for the dynasty that he helped build. Okay, he
gave them a twenty year run of excellence and six
Super Bowl championships and nine appearances the narrative, and he's
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winning the PR battle. He's won the PR battle, you know,
like since he left, nobody's blaming him. Usually when usually
when the guy comes back and you know, we know
about the jersey burning and everything like that. Usually when
the guy comes back, they come, they get booed because
they decided to leave. I e Lebron, I'm taking my
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talent to South Beach. Right, the narrative and even with
Seth Ricker Shamble's book is better to be feared coming
out the narrative and the spin is that they didn't
want him back, or they didn't try hard enough to
keep him, or they gave him the choice but to
leave because they mistreated him or didn't treat him with
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the respect that he deserved towards the end. So he goes,
wins the Super Bowl somewhere else, and the only people
that look bad to the fans right now, at least
based on what I could tell, is Belichick and by extension,
Craft for letting him go. So I just don't know
why any legitimate Patriots fan, many of whom have named
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their children or pets after Tom Brady, would boo Tom Brady.
If anything, it should be like coming to America. They
should be dropping rolls pedals at this man's feet on
his way out the locker room to the field. Dude,
they gave him goodness, I mean enough already he's not
wearing the home team uniform. He was supposed to be
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Derek Jeter and players entire career in pinstripes and represent
New England, represent Boston. Didn't didn't you give him a parade?
Didn't you? Sound with love? Whose fault is it that
he didn't finish his career? And it was his he
left because you know this, Mike, It's always been about
Tom Brady. He wasn't satisfied. I need to go and
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let everybody know that. It wasn't about the defension time
and Adam Venitary, it wasn't about me. So I take rob.
I love that take because you could say he spurned
them and they were no longer good enough for him,
or he wanted a chance, or or you could be
like they left me no choice. Look at the doctor.
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The roster around me was deteriorating. I wanted a two year,
fifty million dollars deal like Drew Brees got in New Orleans.
But they wouldn't sign me until I was forty five
years old because the genius head coach thought I was done.
Oh guess guess he was wrong about that. You know,
I wanted to stay, but he wanted to continue to
treat me like I was twenty years old. Like again,
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that's what I mean about to spin like the pr
machine is in full effect right now, suggesting that he
would have finished his career in New England had the
Patriots done a little bit more to keep him, even
something as minute as well, when Brady, this is in
seth book, When Brady decided that he wasn't going, that
he was gonna leave, Belichick, Oh, the nerve of Belichick
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did not meet him in person. He talked to him
on the phone on the way out, even though Brady
was the one leaving. So I hear you, Rob, But
I don't believe the fans see it that way. They
see a guy who is still at the top of
his game who Belichick decided to let go because Belichick miscalculated. Mike,
let me ask you this, and look, Belichick's legacy is set.
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You know, there are a lot of the greatest coaches
Chuck Noel, Don Shuler, Tom Laird, you go on and
on their careers didn't in you know that well, they
weren't winning at the end for several years, so his
legacy set. But in New England, what do you if
they don't and they're long ways away from a super
Bowl obviously, if they don't win another super Bowl, and
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if they aren't even perennial playoff contenders, how much of
a hit do you think Belichick will take in real time? Again,
his legacy will be set, but in real time, how
disgruntle do you think the fans up there will be
discruntel with his legacy or with him? How long before
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they're talking about making a change When you mean yeah,
I just mean like, will they really begin complaining about Belichick?
And will he take a hit in the present because
they're not winning and who knows radio winning for a
couple of reasons. One um, and they've been waiting twenty
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years for it. The media will not be patient with him.
They've been waiting twenty years to be able to, you know,
knock him down a peg or two. Given the way
his relationship with the local media, So you'll have no
friends in the media. You'll have zero friends in the
media if these struggles continue last year, transition year, okay,
first first losing season, and you know since two thousand,
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you get a pass. But if this continues or they'll
definitely be called for them to move on that the
game has passed him by, or that he's being exposed,
if they're not already, by the way, if they may
be already those those whispers, right fans, I don't think
anybody is going to I think it's gonna tarnish his legacy.
And they're so spoiled here in New England and in Boston,
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They've enjoyed such a long period of winning. I don't
think that they're gonna have a short fuse with him,
per se. What I think is most fascinating is that
we never thought we would ever get anything close to
an answer. It's like which came first to chicken or
the egg? Like, I don't think that there's an answer
to that, right a point, who's more responsible, Brady or Belichick.
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The point wasn't to arrive at an answer. But with
Tom going to Tampa Bay and winning a Super Bowl
the very first season, and if he continues, I've already
predicted that he's gonna build another dynasty in Tampa and
he continues on the course that he's on while the
Patriots continue to struggle in his absence, it's gonna go
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a long way to being like, well, wait a second,
you know, Belichick in Cleveland, was I at best in
two dollars he was five and eleven. He gets with
Brady and their dominant Brady Leeds and Brady keeps doing
this thing and Belichick doesn't like maybe it was Brady
all along. I know, I know, Rob. I'm sorry, Rob,
you already, man, I may come on like like Bill
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Belichick helped booth that Giants defense that won two super Bowls,
and then and then the first three super Bowls, Tom
Brady had like four touchdowns and in the playoffs and
then point yes by Adam Venetarry's foot and if Adam
Venetarry missed three field goals in the Super Bowl, you
wouldn't even mention Tom Brady's name. But they come on
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like let's be honest, like like brought me on the show.
That brought me on the show just to have help him,
because like I hope you'll have a break out. Probably
got to go to the bathroom and throw up. Yes,
you see what I deal with every single day. I mean,
this week has been crazy because we had Jack, we
had to fight night. It's like a week long Brady
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loved and then Sunday it was Stafford against Brady. So
that was another day for me. It's been a rob
Are you gonna be rooting extra hard for the Patriots
to win on Sunday? Well, you know it doesn't matter
who wins. Yes, and don't even watch the game, but
it'll be what's good now, you know, I'll watch it
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with the sound turned down because I can't, you know,
you know, like it will be over the top disgusting,
you know, like like fawning all over Tom Brady. Let
me just say I will say this though, listen to
answer the question more precisely or concisely, Like everybody's legacy
is secure, Like you know, neither one of them would
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have been what they are without the other one. But
I'm just saying in terms of perception, you know, Brady
being successful apart from Belichick certainly helps Brady's case, But
Brady isn't the guy that's having a success in Tampa
without what he learned from Belichick or what he did
with Belichick. Like all of the idea that Brady once
again got with a great defense that helped Patrick Mahomes
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to no points in the Super or look at the
NFC title game against you born Aaron Argers, right, didn't
have his best day. He had we picked in the
second half and could have coughed up the game. It
didn't happen. But but again, I just say, like, I know,
people want to give the quarterback all the credit. I
think Brady gets too much, that's all. But I think
you would. I think you would agree he's the most
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accomplished quarterback, no doubt. He's to say it all the time.
Most of them gonna be really fun. All the drama
in history and dirty laundry aside. Bro, We're gonna get
to see Belichick game plan for Tom Brady. That's gonna
be so much fun. It's gonna be great. It's gonna
be great. Speaking of fun, this has been fun. Mike, yes, man,
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and we gotta get you on again in the future
for the show anytime. I love y'all so much, man,
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Deshaun Watson situation not playing in Houston still got the
legal issues, which look like at least in the courts
um they won't be an issue until February. I believe
it is, but after the season still possibility. I guess
that he could end up on the commissioner's exemple list,
but there's really no sign of that either. We don't
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know where things stand with that. But our own Jay Glazer,
RB Fox Sports NFL Insiders one of the best in
the business. He tweeted out yesterday a series of interest
in tweets. Here's what he said. On Sunday, I shared
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that the Texans stance on trading Deshaun Watson has softened
where they weren't even returning calls from teams in camp.
That has changed ask for teams. To me, Miami makes
the most sense and probably has the best chance to
pull it off if Capitol letters a deal gets done.
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Keep your eyes on this situation. Hashtag scoopage, all right,
So basically, Rob, he's saying that, you know, early on
Houston was even taking calls or in trading Deshaun Watson.
Now they are at least taking calls and engaging in
discussions with other teams, and Miami looks like the front
runner before we go on, right, I gotta say this, Rob,
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I'm baffled by Houston's handling of this situation. We both
agree on this. We both agree they obviously have to
know something we don't know, because just on the surface, Chris,
just looking at it on the surface without knowing and
the inner workings or what have been done behind the scenes,
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it doesn't make sense, right, anybody got it all. You
don't have to be an NFL GM. You don't have
to be a head coach, you don't have to be
an agent. You don't. It doesn't on the surface. Now,
if they got some grand plan, or maybe they kicked
it down the camp down, you know the block, Chris,
and figure we'll get to it when we get to it,
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that's something else. But just on the surface, it's it
doesn't make sense. Well, especially considering Rob that the Texans,
who we all thought, well most of us, I'm not
sure you were there, but most of us thought they'd
be the worst team in the league. They actually look
like they'd be a pretty solid team. If they had
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Deshaun Watson. They were pretty solid, right, Chris. They were
in games. What if the games they beat Jacksonville handily,
They they played Cleveland tough. They were tied at fourteen
at the half before Tyrode got hurt. Hurt, right, They
were in that game, right, So so I gotta you
gotta give props. Look, it's early, but so far David
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Culley and his staff has done a good job with
that team. They're playing hard under some tough situations. But Rob,
if I've got a team that's competitive, I'm sorry. I'm
throwing Deshaun Watson in there. And I'm playing him because
there's for several reasons. One, until we trade him, maybe
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we can win some games. Two maybe, And I'm not
bending over backwards to please this dude. I'm a grown
man if I'm David Culley. But maybe you're just impressing right.
Maybe he likes you, maybe he sees the changes, maybe thinks,
you know what, this is a good staff. We actually
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got something something I like here. And maybe it's odds
he wants to stay so they should be playing and
we both agree on that. But let's look at it
from these other teams standpoint, whether it's Miami or someone else.
I get it. I mean, Deshaun Watson is great, and
he's better probably than twa ever will be. I mean it,
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maybe too, I'm not ready to throw in the towel
onto a Rob who's hurt right now. But I'm just saying,
even if TWA ends up being really good, I doubt
he's gonna be as good as Deshaun Watson. And so
I get I believe that, right, Not not at this point. No, no.
And but here's the thing. If I'm Miami, I I'm
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I'm I don't think I do it, Rob. And here's why.
Number One, I don't know if I'm gonna have him
for the future. Man. Even if I can have him
for the rest of this season, I don't know if
I'm gonna have him for next year and the year
after that and so on and so forth. And if
I give up three first round picks and a second
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plus a player, whatever the deal might be, and I lose,
I don't get Deshaun Watson for the future. I'm not
getting those picks back. Yes, his contract will be voided, Fine,
that's good, But I'm not getting those draft picks. Oh,
you made a deal, right, the deal's done. You're you're
you're I mean right, you can't, Chris. And that's the problem,
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because you know what God forbid. But the day they
come in and take Deshaun Watson out is the day.
You might as well pack up your office too, because
that'll be right right as Jim follow him right out
the door. Because you set the franchise back and you
can't get those picks back, Chris. And that's why it's
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too big up a risk and you could wind up
losing even if your owners on board, Robbing. The talk
is that the owner in Miami is on board, right.
He wants to shune even if he's on board, though,
and he's like, look if it if it blows up
in our face, I got you. I still I gotta
be honest, right, I mean, I guess look, if the
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owner's gonna make you do the deal, I guess you
gotta do the deal. But I'm just saying I wouldn't
even trust that, rob because if it does blow up
in your face, guess what the owner's gonna be looking for,
escapegoat and then they think he's gonna trade, fire himself
or sell a team. No, people will be crying bloody
murder and they'll be like, well, the general manager didn't
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talk me out of it, So you're the lame. You know,
you're the general manager, and you should have You should
have stuck to your guns and told me not to
do it. I mean that, or be like, hey, I
only I only own the team. I don't run football opera.
I don't know football. You're the football guy. You should
have told me. Nah, you're right. So and then here's
the other aspect of it, Robert and I maybe I'm
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grasping for straws, I don't know. But Number one, we
haven't seen Deshaun Watson played all season. Now, I'm sure
he's still a great quarterback. But you know it's gonna
take him a few weeks, right to get in shape,
get going. We're already in week four. And then Rob,
you don't know what his mental frame of mind is
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going to be. Now, some guys, I remember covering Kobe
Bryant in the midst of his trial in Colorado, and
he was trying, Yeah, flying Rob to Colorado for try
for court and flying back and playing in the game
that day or the next day again playing. Can you
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imagine that happening now, Chris, the team playing for that
a great case. Think about that where it's a different
America right now, right, that wouldn't happen. Yeah, But so
some guys will thrive off that. We all heard the cliche,
and it is true. Some guys the court, the field,
the diamond, whatever is their sanctuary, all right, but not
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everybody's like that. What if what if Deshan has trouble
focusing because he's concerned about his future, He concerned about
going to jail? You know what if he's not what
he used to be just mentally because of this situation,
and you might only have him for this year. So
I don't even know that it's a win even if
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you just get him for this year. Rob, So all
that being the case, as great as he is, I
wouldn't mess with if I'm another team, I wouldn't mess
with unless I got him for just some super cheap deal.
But otherwise I'm not messing with him. It's it's too risky.
And I think unless you're willing to stake your reputation,
(30:13):
Chris and your future like as a GM, that's the
only way you make it. Because it's not only that then, Chris,
you also have the general public and your fan base
to sell them that this is okay, that this is cool. Right.
You gotta also there's a cell job yep, right, absolutely,
(30:36):
you in Miami, just you just mentioned it the way
the country's changed. Right, what if Florence just said we
want people with character? Right, that's what I'm just I'm
giving you his words, ye ye, And then you're gonna
sell that to the fan base. And who's not saying
I'm not saying he's in he's guilty, right, Chris? Right?
And who knows what unsavory details could come out? I
(31:00):
don't know that it's already been some stuff that's a
little out there, you know, but what what who knows
what could come out in the trial? And so you
you mentioned it. I mean, this isn't, thankfully the same.
It's it's it's bad. Both both the allegations are bad.
(31:20):
But it's not quite the same as Uh, Trevor Bauer
with the Dodgers and did he play again for them?
Chris no been suspended the whole year, the whole season.
When what do you think? What do you think is
gonna happen to him? Let's say he doesn't end up
doing you know, getting legal punishment? Yeah, right, I think
(31:41):
he'll be he won't come back to the Dodgers. Uh.
I think he might be out for a little while
and then um, after some sort of apology and his
behavior or whatever, you know what I mean, Like after
people feel like he put in some sort of punishment,
then I think he'll get another opportun somebody will give
him one. But he has to be contrite, you know
(32:03):
what I mean. If if it, he has to come
back rehabilitated those exactly like like I've changed my ways,
I've done some stuff that I'm not proud of, and
I made a mistake and I'm looking for another opportunity
and to do right. I don't. I'm not one of
these people think that the people make mistakes and that's it.
People make mistakes all the time. But you got up, Chris.
(32:24):
I say this all the time. If Pete Rose would
have apologized and said I made a mistake. I never
meant to hurt baseball. I didn't mean to gamble on
the game, and I'm gonna get help right for gamblers anonymous,
he would be in the Hall of Fame right now, Yeah,
he would, right? Yeah? People a people give in this country.
(32:48):
Was he on the ballot? Was ever right? Right? Because
he was bamed? But you get my point is that
he never fessed up to it. Right, Well, it looked
like at a point he might get back get on
the ballot. Well, because they let him. You remember when
they let him come back to Cincinnati for the for
(33:08):
the All Star Game, and then he came out with
a book right after that, Chris to make money, saying
that he did it after all that, right, right, But
you know, Rob, you know back then, I mean, they
made a lot lot of money for that time, but
it wasn't an amount of money that you could still today.
(33:30):
So he probably needed money. But why that's no excuse.
But I'm just saying, oh no, it's totally that he
didn't make that much money. Back to right, I was
doing a thing about Dave Winfield when he signed a
big contract to come to the Yankees. He signed a
ten year, twenty three million dollar con Just think about that.
It was ten years. He was the highest paid player
in baseball ten years, Chris twenty three million, And think
(33:52):
you you really only get half of that, right, and
that's your earnings. That's why these guys, you know, they're
they're gonna be done making money, you know. I mean,
obviously there are things they can do after the game,
but they're they're gonna be done making the bulk of
their money. In most cases at thirty five years old, ye,
So they gotta make what they can
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