Bernie Fratto talks Vin Scully and Deshaun Watson!

Bernie Fratto remembers Vin Scully, talks about the decision in the Deshaun Watson suspension and the NFL’s appeal, the Vegas angle on Aaron Judge’s MVP chances, and more!

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keeping us glued together. Tonight as usual, we are packed.
We are even more packed. We've got NFL previews at
about an hour from now. I'm gonna explain in detail
what's going on with the Shawn Watson, how do we
get to this point? Where do we go from here?

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It's likely to happen next and give you all the details.
Got the latest on the l I V. Golf Tour,
Phil Nicholson PGA lawsuit, Levin Golfers joining that lawsuit. We've
got more college football stuff that plus what kind of
brand new fool you? What my name? The world of soccer?
But first I want to give a tribute to a

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man who spent sixty seven years coming into our living rooms,
our backyards, our lives. He was a welcome sight, a
man who I thought would live forever, but in truth
he will. Now. You know, you've heard a lot of
folks the last five days talk about Vince Gully, and

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most of them didn't grow up in Sharloe, California. That
doesn't matter. They heard his voice and knew who he was.
In many cases they met him, had the interactions with him.
So no matter where you were, if you heard Vince
Scully's voice, anywhere you had a ticket to broadcast Paradise.
But if you grew up in summer California like I did,
you had a front row seat. And it all begins

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about nine when Vin in his classmate at Fordham Prep
and a baseball teammate they were in high school together,
a gentleman by the name of Larry Miggans. There were
two of them talking in the school auditorium one day
when they asked each other what they dreamed that, what
they would became, what they would become when they grew up,

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and Miggans told Vince s Gully that he wanted to
be a Major League ball player, And then, of course
he told Larry he wanted to be a sports announcer,
and he had since he was eight years old. Eight
years later, Mayo, Larry Megan's same high school as Vince Gully,
Fordham Prep, playing for the St. Louis Browns, played the

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Dodgers at Abbot's fieldand Brooklyn hit the first of his
two career home runs in the Major Leagues on the
call that day, Vince Gully, Yes, dreams do come true.
Scully later said it was as close to breaking down
doing a baseball game or any other sporting event that
he had ever experienced. By the way, Larry Megans is

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still alive. He turns on August fourth oldest Major League
alive that had played in a Major League baseball incredible.
You know, years ago a guy by the name of
Sam Parker came up with a concept business concepts. He
called it two twelve the Extra Degree, and it goes

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something like this. I wish I had thought of it.
It's ingenious. At two and eleven degrees, water is hot,
very hot, scalding hot. But at two hundred and twelve degrees,
just one degree more water boils, which produces steam, which
can power a locomotive. Just one more degree. And if

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all of us in life gave the effort of that
one last degree, might you in your own life become
a version of Vince Gully. Evince Gully, when I think
of him, gave that one extra degree and everything he
did in his relationships he talked about, quote, the humility
to prepare and the confidence to pull it off. Imagine this.

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In the Brooklyn Dodgers left Brooklyn for Los Angeles. When
they got to Los Angeles, camp set the radio station
that would be airing Dodgers games. They weren't sure they
wanted to hire Vince Scully. Well, Peter O'Malley would not
hear of it, or check that Walter O'Malley would not
hear of it. Can you imagine not having Vince Scully

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see many years earlier? Obviously he'd been hired in nineteen
fifty and there's I'm always fascinated by the circle of life.
I'll get to this a little bit later. But Ernie
Harwell had been working for the uh Brooklyn Dodgers. He
became the Tigers announcer, A man I got to know
very well. Tell a story about him a little later. Dude,

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everything is kind of linked together. He leaves Brooklyn, goes
to Boston. The rest is history. Venn is hired in Brooklyn.
And by the way, I have to be honest, I
can't lie. October fift that's when Gibby hit the home
run off of Dennis Eckersley. I actually was there and
left the game early. Now I'm not mad. I've never

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really been mad, only because I had a hundred dollars
on the A's that night and they were leading heading
into the ninth and I figured we're all good, let's
get out of here, let's beat the traffic. I'm in
the parking lot, and uh, when Gibby hit the home run, well,
I lost the bet. And that's partially I was, you know,
relieved and happy in the sense I didn't have to

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sit there and watch it and lose, and I was
gonna somewhat beat the traffic. But I also realized years
later that while listening to that most iconic call about
you know, in a in a season that's featured the improbable,
we have just witnessed the impossible. Not only did I
hear that I kind of call, I heard it live
from the Dodger Stadium parking lot as it was happening,
so I couldn't really be too mad. I've met Vince

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are Then, when I was coming out of college, my
one of my professors, Terry Bales, wanted me to be
a writer. I've a degree in journalism, and I made
some smart aster remark and those guys don't make any
money field minor league baseball player. I was broke, so
I wanted to make money. Well, he says, why don't
you come to Daughters Stadium and me we'll beat Vince.
Gully said, yeah, I'm all over that like a cheap suit.

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So we we get in the car. We go to
Dodger Stadium and Terry Bales, who was with Associated Press,
he introduces me to Vin, and like everybody who's met Vin,
your mesmerized because you hear that voice coming through the radio,
you hear that voice coming through the TV. But then
you hear the voice in person. Go wait, wait a minute,
that's the real voice. You're completely mesmerized. You're thinking, wait
a minute. I thought this is some man from heaven

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coming down. This is this is real. This is really
his voice. So you know, I was young and I
would like said something really lame to the effect of
all men, it must be great here. You get to
come to work here and Dodger Stadium and call these
baseball games. I can't imagine. I must imagine you you
love baseball more than anything. And Scully looks at me
with a straight face and says, you know, you give

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me a sunny day and afternoon at the ballpark, and
I'm pretty girl by my side, and you can have
the sunny day in the afternoon at the ballpark. And
it busted up the room, and he Florida's he got me,
and that just showed that the range he had, and
that just showed the depth he had and his ability
to come end. And he was so gracious and so
effortless and mesmerizing. I'll never forget that story. And I'm

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sure he's used that line before, but it didn't matter.
It hit it. You know, it landed so strongly it
stayed with me all these years later. What's interesting is
fast forward to two thousand three, the Dodgers had come
to Detroit, were now well into where in the sixth
year of of of of of inter league playing, the
Dodgers come to Detroit for a three game series, which,

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by the way, they swept. This is July two thousand three.
By this time, now I'm a full fledged member of
the media, working for w k r K and Detroit
the flagship of the Tiger Station. Look you don't. I
couldn't wait to get to the ballpark that night because
it had been in the media since ninety four. How
I went there for one reason. I wanted to see
even Scully. I wanted to say hello, I want to

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shake his hand. I come walking in there. Scully didn't
make the trip by night by by by two thousand three,
and he was seventy six years. He didn't make every
trip the last few years he broadcast. He didn't make
every road trip that just happened to be one he
didn't make, and it had been twenty two years. But
the thought was, well, that time in one when I

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met him, it turned out to be the only time
I met him. Unreal, So you just never know, I guess. Um.
The stories in Vince Gully are sil voluminous. Uh, there's
no way to get to all. What I want to
do is before I give my own commentary on on
what I think who I think Vince Gully was as

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a man and as an announcer, and and share with
you all the things he did. It was interesting because
Vince Gully also did in NFL football and he was
very good at it, and his broadcast partner was Hank Stram.
Hank Stram was retiring and CBS wanted to replace him
with the guy I made heard of by the name
of John Madden. So it was between Vince Gully and

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Pat Summer all as to who would get that gig
heading into the eighty two season and who would call
the Super Bowl, which coincidentally was played in Detroit in UH.
In eighty two January of eighty two between the Bengals
and the forty Niners. And it turned out, this is
a little know in fact, in that competition, Scully, Vince
Gully actually lost to Pat Summer all in the Trialt

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and CBS to call NFL games alongside John Madden. But
the network CBS decided to throw a vent a bone.
They they what they did was they they gave him
kind of a consolation. He got one last game in
January of two as a send off. It ended up
being the Dwight Clark catch game. Ben went on to

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be an even bigger icon after calling that. And I
would just say this that that is emblematic of Vince
Scully and what he meant to all of us. He
was the ideal order. He was sort of a modern Socrates,
only more revered. I described Vince Gully this way. He
was an incredible observant, elegant, actual witness and rock and

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tour of history, a guy that painted pictures with words.
And as I told Aaron and and Jason Martin and
Steve di Seger a couple of hours ago in Dodger Stadium,
you'd go, you know, I started going to games. Every
when I was twelve years old, everybody had to transistor
true story. Everybody wanted to hear Vin call the game.
He was omnipresent. Finally the Dodgers smartened up. Not they

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weren't smart before. They created a situation where if you
went to the concession standard you had to go to
the restroom, you could hear Vince Gully being piped through
the stadium, so you didn't miss anything. But there was
so much more to Vince Gully than just calling Dodger games.
Coming up, I'm going to share with you of Vince Gully.
Resume to be amazed at all the things he did

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and who he knew. And I'll tie in the story
to Ernie Harwell, the long time Tiger announcer. They were
kindred spirits. Coming up, You do not want to miss that.
I'm Bernie Fratto, come to you live from the Las
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Fox Sports creator on Bernie Frantle coming to Lina for
the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio students. That's gonna take
after three m Pacific, six am Eastern. I mentioned the

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name Terry Bales. Turns out I'm not the only one
who knows him. Uh. Got a tweet from a gentleman
named Ryan He had Terry Bales as a professor as well.
It's my understanding, Uh, Terry, Uh, he was such a
He was a jovial guy. Uh, kind of a burly guy. Uh.

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You know, Uh, it didn't miss many meals. I say
that in a friendly way. Glass is kind of redhead,
great sense of humor. It's my understanding. He passed away
a couple of years ago, but there's no doubt a
lot of folks had the same kind of experience with
with he. Uh. That I did. And Uh, if you
wanted to be in the media, you would do well
to be tutored under Terry and I was. But I

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didn't go into the media for many years after. But
that's a story for a different day. All Right. I
want to give my take on Vince Gully. It's my turn.
As I mentioned, I think he was an incredibly observant,
elegant man. He was what you you know, he was
a keen observer. He was he was your eye witness
to history. There's just no question. And how do you

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do his resume justice? You cannot do it justice in
four hours? Uh he had. Vince Gully had an incredible resume.
But I'm going to give you a quick sampler, okay
for starters. As you as you know, Vince Gully attended
Fordham University in New York and he played baseball. But
what if I also told you that Vince Gully covered

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Fordham football when a guy named Vince Lombardi was the
assistant coach at Fordham. That got things roll. And he
also again played college baseball at Fordham, but not just
played college baseball. When they played Yale, he played against
former president George H. W. Bush Vince Gully started out

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and he learned at the feet of Red Barber, the
legendary Red Barber, and Barber always told him, he said,
don't copy, don't copy anybody else's style. He will basically
be watering down your own wine. And obviously, when Vin
was broadcasting and the Dodgers beginning of a player by
the name of Jackie Robinson and then befriended Jackie and

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his wife Rachel Robinson. And uh, he was in the
Dodgers clubhouse after the home run by Bobby Thompson off
Ralph Branca, and Vince Gully was very sad that day. Um,
he basically said, you know what I don't understand he heard,
pee Wee. Reese asked Jackie, and Jackie said, what, because

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how coming after all these years of baseball, I haven't
gone insane, Pee Wee told him. But the last out
of the Dodgers only world serious championship, Vince Gully out
of the following words, quote ladies and gentlemen, the Brooklyn
Dodgers are champions of the world. He said. Later again
in typical Vince Gully style, he said, if I would
have said another word, I would have broken down and cried,

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Vince Gully was a type of guy. He met the
Pope more than one pope. He met the president more
than one president. He was neighbors and friends with John
Wooden there all those years in Los Angeles. He called
Colfax has a hitters. But it wasn't just calling a
no hitter. It was absolute poetic perfection. Remember I mentioned

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a minute ago and when Vin lost out on the
competition to Pat Summer All to call NFL games as
John Badden's partner, he got one last game and that
game was quote the catch. He called the catch from
Montana to Dwight Clark, which put them in the World
Series or checked out. The Super Bowl. He called Kirk

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Gibson's home run. He also called Barry bonds seventy first
home run. Vin was also fond about quoting opera and Shakespeare.
He's easily as he could quote Yogi Barra. And yet
never ever did Vince Kelly placed himself above the people
and the events that he was there to broadcast about. Unreal.

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Now here's the connection between Vin and the great Ernie Hartwell.
Now Ernie Harwell, by the way, was Detroit's version of
Vince Scully. He's about ten years older. And I got
to know Ernie very well in Detroit because I was
in the media, and Ernie was a great guy. He
was very similar to Vince Gully, and the two had

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had a great relationship, in part because in ninety nine,
Ernie Harwell's first year in the full first year, first
full year in the Big leagues, while Ernie was broadcasting
for the Brooklyn Dodgers. On April that season, the Dodgers
actually turned a triple play. But after that season, Ernie

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Harwell resigned from the Dodgers to take the job with
the New York Giants, and on that broadcast crew he
joined Russ Hodges. But so to succeed Hardwell Harwell, the
Dodgers hired Vince Scully, who had just he had only
gotten out of Fordham University what uh a year a
year earlier, and so had Harwell not resigned as the

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Dodgers number two announceder to go to join Russ Hodges
and the New York Giants. Maybe maybe Scully' is not
hired by the Dodgers, we don't know. And then Harwell
obviously went on from the Giants to the Baltimore's landed
with the Detroit Tigers. And there's a great story because
the Detroit Tigers acquired Ernie Harwell. There was a trade

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for a catcher, minor league catcher by the name of
Cliff Dapper, and Ernie Harwell would always joke that, well,
the Atlanta Crackers got the better of that deal. Of
course they did, we know. But by the nineties, Harwell
and Scully they had long known each other for decades
and they you know, they were Hall of famers, but

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more important to their listeners. What's interesting is they finally
got to call one game together although they weren't working together.
Here's what happened on June the Dodgers played at Atlanta. Now,
Harwell was doing the game for CBS Radio and he

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was sitting a booth next to Vince Scully. But there
was actually a glass partition between him, because Scully was
doing it for the local Dodger station. And I'm guessing
I'm not sure if I'm guessing it was five seventy nine,
but so picture this. They're both in Atlanta, uh and
Harwell's doing the game for CBS Radio and Scully's doing

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it right next to but there's a glass partition. Here's
where the story takes an interesting turn. In the very
first inning, Atlanta's Chipper Jones lines into a triple play
the events. Scully reported it was the first triple play
turned by the Dodgers since nineteen forty nine, and that coincidentally,
the man who called that triple play was sitting right

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next to him. Then, while Scully was down the air,
leaned out of his booth toward Harwell's booth and beckoned
him to the microphone. Scully asked Harwell about the Dodgers
triple play in and when Vince Scully told his story
again fairly recently, he said, Ernie had kind of that nice,
easy grint, if you can picture it. He goes, Vinny,

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I don't rightly remember, And every now and then Ernie
would would have a Southern accident, not very often. But
what's interesting is that at the moment in Atlanta represented
a milestone beyond a triple play. It was the only
time that Ernie Harwell and Vince Gully were ever on
the air together. Imagine that, you know. Obviously, Vince Gully

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has inspired a lot of broadcasters, but one of the
most notable was Al Michael's and al Michael's freely admits
that when he was starting out he tried to copy
Vince Gully as much as he could and maybe it worked.
Because there's a story about nine when Al Michaels was
broadcasting in Triple A for the Hawaiian Islanders, the Potteris affiliate.

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The Dodgers were managed by the Albuquerque Dukes. That was
a Triple A team there in Hawaii for a five
game series. And who's managing the Albuquerque Dukes none other
than Tommy las sorta. So after the five game series,
it's my understanding, Tommy gets a call from Walter O'Malley
or he was either Walter O'Malley or Al campanis one

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of them, and he says he has a question about
a few prospects. And when they get done with the conversation,
Tommy says to to O'Malley, he says, hey, by the way,
for what it's worth, we just finished up a five
game series here in in Hawaii and I got to
hear this terrific announcer, a guy by the name of
Al Michaels. If you're ever looking for another announcer, you know,

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I'll tell you, you you know we uh, you just never know,
and Uh, of course they said, well, you know, Vin's
our guy, but let's you know, you know, we just
not an extention, but you never know what can happen.
And course, based on that recommendation, uh, al Michaels ended
up becoming the voice of the Cincinnati Rids, the youngest

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I believe played by play announcer for a major league
ball team at that time. But what was interesting, as
a story continues, is, Uh, Peter O'Malley says to Tommy
the sort of wait a minute, Tommy, Uh, if you're
in Hawaii to play a five game series, how did
you hear Al Michaels? And Tommy says, oh, you know
that son of a gun. Although he didn't say son

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of a gun, he might have dropped a couple of
choice words. You know, Tommy, that son of a gun.
Harry wendel Stett was the crew chief that week, and
we don't get along. He ran me four of the
five games, so I had to listen. Back at the hotel,
Tommy would tell that story. But the long and the
short of it is, so there's another influence al Michael's
Ernie Harwell, Vince Scully and one quick Ernie Harwell story.

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By the way, when he was a youngster, he was
ten years old in n I believe, He's leaning over
the rail at Yankee Stadium and yells out to Babe Ruth.
He says, hey, Babe, would can I get your autograph?
And Babe says sure a kid, and he runs over
and he says, Okay, what do you got? You got
a pen, you got paper? What do you got? What
can I sign? And Harvell didn't have anything, so he

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reached took off his shoe if someone gave him a pen,
handed to Babe Ruth, and Babe Ruth signed his shoe.
That became the title of Ernie Harwell's first book, The
Babe Signed My Shoe. Coming up, I gotta tell you
a quick, funny lunch story about Ernie Harwell. That's absolutely
true and it shows the kind of humility yet the
same as Vince Scully. And by the way, in case

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you missed it, a baseball card sold this week for
over seven million dollars. You're gonna want to hear that
as well. And we'll wrap it up with Vince Scully.
But first, that's part of the only update anchor on
the entire network who has the same initials is moui
bien it's look at you. That was pretty good. That's

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what you just gotta keep practicing, but you's not really good. Well,
thank you. Yeah, I cannot believe you left that game,
Bernie the eight eight World Series. I heard you say that,
and I screamed, well, listen, you know Dodger Stadium used
to get into Yeah, I got I'm caught in my
hunter Bucks Dennis Sackers least taking about best closer in baseball.

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Bring bottle bloom, what's over. I'm going to beat the traffic,
not so much crazy crazy, but at least you were
still there, Like, yeah, really you're going to hell on
a scholarship. I'm gonna have to do with it for sure.
I mean, nobody, nobody is like Vince Scully. Nobody will
ever be like Vince Scully. He just had a way
to I don't know, like you know, we fear dead air,

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but with then it was like he just like let
it breathe in such a way that you know, it's
so impressive and we'll never have another Vin. But you know,
he had a great, great, great life. Let's do a
little baseball. Let's keep talking about the Dodgers. They've now
won seven in a row. They beat the Padres again.
Max Munse had a three run homer to put the

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Dodgers up. The Mets they're still killing it too. They
actually swept the Braves in their double header. Uh they
are thirty games over five for the first time since
two thousand and six. Max us Are pitched the second
game and he had a season high eleven strikeouts over
seven innings. Maxchers are still killing it. Yankees not killing it.
They've lost four in a row. The Cardinals are now

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alone in the n AL Central. They are in first place,
especially since the Brewers lost seven five to the Reds.
The Cardinals have won six in a row. That's a
season high for them. The Twins. They beat the blue
Jay seven three, and they still lead the ALE Central
by two games over the Guardians, who beat the Astros
four to one. We also had victories from the Phillies,
the Angels, and the Mariners actually split their double header.

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The Orioles have now five have now won five in
a row. They beat the Pirates, the Royals. They walked
it off to beat the Red Sox five four in
the ninth inning, and the Giants beat the A's. The
Cubs shut out the Marlins, while the Rangers also shut
out the White Sox and other MLB news. But Bio
Bony is infamous New York Mets contract sold for a
hundred and eighty thousand dollars at an auction. Now, normally

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I think it's crazy when people bet stuff like this,
but the winner isn't just getting this contract. The winner
is getting a thirty minute zoom call with Bobby Bonilla,
another one with the agent that broker this deal, Dennis Gilbert,
who actually has had the contract in his possession the
whole time. He also gets a signed baseball, a game
used bat from Bonia's personal collection, and a one on

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one Boniga contract n f T. On top of all that,
this winner is gonna get to spend a day with
Bonilla in New York, including breakfast and a trip to
City Field for batting practice, to watch batting practice, to
watch the Mets game, and then they're gonna have dinner
all in three. So this is one of those things
that I agree, yes, bet on this if you get
all of these other things, but a contract, Bobby Bonia's

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contract hundred and eighty k. Speaking about money, it looks
like Kareem Hunt is upset about his contract. Brown's running back.
He is skipping team drills. He's not happy with his contract.
He is expected to be fined. The Ravens announced today
that a handful of players will not be playing in
the preseason game opener on Thursday against the Titans. That
includes quarterback Lamar Jackson and tight end Mark Andrews, but

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head coach John Harbott would not confirm. He didn't want
to say whether Lamar was gonna miss the other two
preseason games as well. Back to you, Bernie, all right, thanks, Bonsey. Yeah,
There'll never be another Vin, that's for sure. Four years young,
sixty seven years behind the mic. The best I ever
heard described was in the end. The physical presence of

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Vince Kelly's voice was absolutely overwhelming, and like I said,
his quote, the humility to prepare and the confidence to
pull it off. Imagine that when the Dodgers left Brooklyn
for l A k A. PC wasn't sure they wanted
to hire then as their announcer. Can you imagine had
Vince Kelly come to Los Angeles? Check that the Dodgers

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come to Los Angeles without Vince Scully and of course,
his high school best buddy Larry Megans, both going to
Fordham Prep n N. They're sitting around the auditorium talking
about what do you want to do when you grow up.
Larry Megan says, I want to play Major League baseball.
Vin Scully said, I want to be an announcer. I've

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been I've wanted that since I was eight years old.
Nineteen fifty two. Eight years later, Larry Megans is playing
for the St. Louis Browns. They traveled at ebbots Field
to play the Brooklyn Dodgers. Vince Scully on the call.
Larry Miggans hits his first career home run, only two
in his career, but the first one was at ebbots Field.

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On the call, Vince Scully, imagine that the circle of life.
Scully said it was the only time he broke down
on the year. Larry Megan still with us, turns ninety
seven years old on August. Imagine that. And as Monty
told you on October, I outurday night that living in
for me, I had a hundred dollars On the Oakland

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A's jose Can Saco hits one off the camera well
in the first inning. It's three nothing. I'm going this
is gonna be duck soup. Nope, Dodgers winning five with
a great team with a great story. But Oakland had
the lead in the ninth inning. Uh, and then a
sucker's least coming out to the mount and figure out
we got this. I'm not too smart to begin with.

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And that night as just get the hell out of here, truce,
we can beat the traffic. Had to drive all the
way back to Lagoon and a guel and uh, okay,
let's fast forward. I get in the car. Just as
I'm getting in the car, I'm not joking. There walk
he walks Mike Davis. Oh, I had that sinking feeling.
I felt like I had a lit firecracker up there.
Took us and it was the fuse was halfway down.

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Then Mike Davis Steele's second base on contestant and out
of the dug out something out of you know the
natural with Roy Hobbs. Gibby comes walk into the plate
and I hear Scully. You just know something was going
to happen, and it did again. I was and mad.
I lost a hundred bucks, but I didn't have to
witness it in person. The pain and oh, by the way,

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and I was a Dodger fan, but on that night,
I just thought Oakland would win. And I realized later,
not only did I hear them one of the most
iconic calls of all time, I heard it in the
Dodger Stadium parking lot while it was happening hit deep
to right field. In a season that feature the improbable,
we have just witness the impossible something along those lines.
You get it. We're gonna hear that for the rest

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of our lives. Vince Kelly does, in fact, will in
fact live forever. And I gotta tell my quick because
Ernie Harwell and Vince Gully were absolute kindred spirits. They
were cut from the same cloth, elegant, wonderful men that
were from another planet. They're almost like Guardian angels. Now.
I remember when I got into the media Detroit. I
would see Ernie in the press box and one day

(30:50):
I said, could we go to lunch? He said absolutely,
and I, oh, man al and I special. It turns
out Ernie went to lunch with pretty much everybody because
he was a nice guy. Right, So we went out,
we had a blast. But I can still see I
got that on my resume. I had lunch with Ernie Harwell,
who once met Babe Ruth when he was ten. He
got his autograph and he didn't have anything. He didn't

(31:10):
have pen or pencil or anything. And Babe says, well,
what do you kid, what do you want me to sign?
He didn't have anything. He takes off a shoe. Babe
signs issue. Didn't google us. Ernie Hardwell's first book was
The Babe Signed My Shoe. But I want to tell
an even better story about lunch. Um. I almost wish
we had all laugh track at the It's a true story. Now,
Christal know who Mario and Pemba is. Mario and Pemba

(31:34):
is a good dude. He uh called Tigers games many years.
He was part of the broadcast team for Rod Allen
that end and a couple of years ago. Not not great,
but Mario is a good dude, Michigan State guy who
very solid announcer. Actually did some work for the Angels
as well before he got the Detroit I'm gonna say
he got the Detroit like two thousand six issue, and
then in that area. Whatever the year he got there

(31:57):
was Ernie Harwell's last year. So the very first day
of the season, Ernie Harwell comes walking into the booth.
He sees Mario. He goes, hey, Mario, welcome, Why don't
we do this. Let's go have dinner after the game,
my treat. I know you're Italian, I know you like
Italian food. I know there's great Italian restaurant. It's only
about twenty minutes away. Mario and Pen goes, oh, man,

(32:18):
this is cool. Yeah, let's do it. Man. So the
game ends, and it was an afternoon game. They get
all set earning it was all drive, so they drive
to the restaurant. They get there about twenty minutes later,
and as they are pulling up into the restaurant, the
one earning Hardwell is talking about, this is a great restaurant.
You're gonna love it. Your Italian. They pull into the
parking lot of Olive Garden. And by the way, I

(32:39):
like Alive Garden's delicious, right, And I'm a whop hunter
percent Italian. But just that whole scenario, picture, the way
it was set up. I know, and I might have
oversold it, but that just shows you what an interesting, wonderful, simple,
great guy Ernie Harbor was. In many ways, same with
Vince Gully. The pure dichotomy. The quote Shakespeare. They'll quote

(32:59):
you Liberra, but I will tell you I had the
ear button my ear from the time I was twelve
years old, and I realized the power of a broadcast
in the mesmerizing way that Vince Gully could entertain the
world right and deliver us from sometimes the vagaries of
the world while you try to enjoy life. Vince Gully
understood and the world of sports in the in the

(33:22):
mall of life, we were the toy department. No one
did it better and probably well repeat some of these
stories if the Dodgers get to the World Series, etcetera. Uh.
It's amazing, Uh, the impact that Vince Gully had on everybody.
And I don't think I'm overselling that. Speaking of possibly oversold.
The homeless Wagner key Tool six cards sold for seven
point two million last week. I'm gonna tell you this

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significance in that card and why and can you imagine
a baseball card being sold for seven point two million.
I'll tell you and give you the details. I'm Bernie
Frida or come to you live from Last Vegas. Fox
Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to Fox
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and Pacific six Ame Eastern and yes, we play exclusively
motown bumper music. That's what we caught in the business.
Bumper music. Alright. Honus Wagner has been debt since nineteen
Hall of Fame baseball player now at the N one
National Sports Collector's invention of which I was a part
of the promotions team Hannaheim, California along with my partner

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Mike Burkas. God Dressed his soul. The T tool of
six Wagner trading card was sold for four hundred and
forty thousand dollars to Bruce mcnal, who at the time
owned the Kings and the Lakers and Wayne Gretzky. Or
checked that he you know the Lakers, He own the
Kings and Wayne Gretzky. Now fast forward to last week.
This is an incredibly rare s G C two graded

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T two O six Wagner card produced by American Tobacco
Company back in nineteen eleven, and it's sold. It's sold
for seven point two million in a private sale brokered
by the Golden Sports Memorabilia Company run by Ken Golden,
who Mike Burkas knew very well. That's the most ever

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paid for a trading card, and it breaks the industry
record of six point six million for a different three
grade T two O six WONUS Wagner card, which sold
again a few years ago, uh for six point six million.
And the buyers and sellers in these situations currently are anonymous. Now,
Ken Golden, I'll quot him. He went, honestly, I've been

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in this business for a very long time, and yes
he has, and I've seen a lot of incredible trading
cards and pieces of memorability, but there's nothing on earth
like the T two O six card. There's a reason
why no Wagner card has ever sold for less than
it was, you know, previously purchased for the card. He

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quotes is art, it's history, it's folklore, okay. The Teach
Tools six is one of the reasons I do what
I do and why serious collectors around the world love
this hobby so much. To be a part of history
and facilitate the record breaking sale, He's an honor end quote.
So why is this card so valuable. There's a reason

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Honas Wagner, who is a longtime Pittsburgh pirate shortstop, and
the mythology around the card and why it's so rare
stems from the fact. And I know this story has
been disputed, but but I believe it again. These cards
were produced by a tobacco company in nineteen eleven, and

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it's my understanding that Honas Wagner, or the American Tobacco Company,
it's my understanding that Honas Wagner was absolutely deadly, definitely
against any form of tobacco. So when he found out
his name was going to be associated with UH tobacco
for commercial usage, he demanded that he be removed. So,

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so you know, when they produce a full season set
of baseball cards, um, which means it's a it's a
complete set, you know, you know, say nineteen fifty two.
If you own the complete set of nineteen fifty two
every player, every you've got the Mickey Mantel fifty two
tops Rookie card, which is sold for five million. Last year,

(37:24):
by the way, in Cleveland, was in Cleveland Convention where
it's sold for about two hundred and fifty thousand. I'm
telling you, man, it's incredible what's going with hobbies going through.
But what I'm getting at here is Honess Wagner asked
that they halt production, and so only fifty of those
cards were made. So in order to get to complete
nineteen eleven set, you could not get it unless you

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had the Honess Wagner card. And even though they were
probably hundreds of thousands of those complete sets made, there's
only fifty Wagner cards. And if you google and look
at it, it's really distinctive looking, and it's narrow, doesn't
look like a regular baseball card. Uh. And and when
you consider the cream of the cream, the cream of
the crop for the hobby um the homeless Wagoner T

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Tool six card in the nineteen fifty two top Mickey
Mantle again which sold last year for five point two million.
Those two are basically the holy grail of all baseball
cards because so few exist, and the popularity of the
players of those cards and mantles rookie card of course,
and the popularity of the card and the player combined,

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so the training card in sports collectibles space has basically
been on fire since the pandemic pandemic, it's been white
hot on fire, and there's been incredible enormous retail. There's
been incredible enormous resale and the financial numbers because there's
all kinds of new investors coming in and they view
baseball cards is alternative assets like fine line collecting old coins,

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where art, where paintings, that type of thing. So the
T tool six Wagner card which last sold in May
of one for three point seven million, that was then
the record before the mark was just broken last August.
The six point six million, not seven point two incredible. Again.
Wagner was a longtime Pittsburgh Pirate short stop. He's the

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best known for being the face of the world's most
expensive trading card. Again he in The reason that the
car is so rare and so expensive is Wagner had
an opposition to the card and and the fact that
there's so few of them right means that obviously have
a supply and demand issue. But the bottom line is,

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in case you missed it, and I did. Because Almas
Wagner played between nineteen or eighteen ninety seven and nineteen seventeen,
he was in the He was one of the Baseball
Hall of Fames inaugural class of inductees back in nineteen
thirty six, and he uh played twenty one years in
the major leagues, and he led the league in hitting

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eight of his twenty one years. So there you have it.
Bonus Wagener the t two of six cards sols for
a record seven point two million. To get that some perspective.
At the National where I was and sold for four
or forty grand at the time to Wayne Gretzky and
Bruce mcnal, we thought they were nuts thin, but who knew.
Look what happened. Coming up, I break down the Deshaun

(40:23):
Watson saga. Don't miss it. I'll have details on Bernie Fratto.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. The Fox
Sports Sunday train keeps rolling right along. I'm Bernie Fratto,
Comedy Alive in Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio Studios will
take you to three am Pacific, six am Eastern ton
of stuff to get to. You might have to stay

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on a few extra hours tonight, but maybe I won't
be able to. I don't know if Brian Nowen, Nanny
Firman like that. So we're gonna keep motoring right along
because we've got a ton to get through. We haven't
even gotten to Deshaun Watson. So why don't we do
that now? I mean, the Beatles once had a song yesterday.
All my trouble seems so far away. Well, on Monday,

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Deshaun Watson, it looked like he would be facing a
six game suspension, which is a slap on the wrist.
I don't care what anybody says. Uh. Judge Robinson said
the NFL proved their case. She claims that he lied
to the judge and he used she used words like,
while yes, sexual misconduct was proven, but it was nonviolent.

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Get that noise out of here? How about mental anguish?
How about trauma? I will be very disappointed if Deshaun
Watson doesn't get a full year with the fine and
have to face treatment. If if he does not get
a severe penalty, well that's as wrong as rain on
opening day. I will tell you that a lot of

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folks are waiting to see what happens here, because at
the end of the day, look, let's not let's not
kid ourselves here. The NFL waited. They ran up to
trial balloon to see how people would respond to the
six game suspension, and they decided, okay, they're gonna appeal
now because this has always been a there's always been
a pr impetus to this. There's always been a pr component,

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There's always been a pr context or subtext. But regardless
anyway it slice it, I really believe strongly that Deshaun
Watson needs needs to have a much more severe suspension. Again,
let's face it, this is about the NFL getting the
public relations aspect of this ordeal right so that nothing
interferes with their NFL Sundays and Mondays and Thursdays and

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every day. And by the way, and I'll tell you what,
let's dive into this place right Nowledge it stands Okay,
Watson would miss six games Panthers, Jets, Steelers, Falcons, Chargers, Patriots,
he'd be elige, will be back October against Baltimore, that's
right now. And then that six games suspension, Watson would
only lose three five thousand. By the way, do not

(42:58):
give me any of this bologna about how last year
he was prohibited from playing. No, let's set the record straight.
Follow my timeline, don't listen selectively. Deshaun Watson signed with
the Houston Texans, one of the biggest contracts in history
of the NFL about two years ago. He was in tears.
He was so happy, but lit. Not long after that,

(43:20):
he was perturbed that the Texans didn't check in with
him when they were making some personnel decisions, and he
thought that was wrong and fair enough. Maybe they should have.
But he says, I'm never going to play for the
Texas again, and he meant it. So. Last year, Deshaun
Watson was eligible to play, he was eligible to play,
he was on the roster, he refused to play. Paid

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ten point four or five million dollars for his troubles.
They tried to trade him to Miami. It almost happened,
but one of the stipulations on the trade was that
the Dolphins wanted Deshaun Watson to settle his cases before
the trade was consummated. He said no, so the trade
fell out. I've heard people speculated, well, if you'd been traded,
Roger Goodell would have put him on the examplest anyway,

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So he got screwed last year he couldn't play. Not true.
Goodell would only put you on the example list if
criminal charges have been filed, and they weren't. There were
two grand jury hearings the local district attorney decided they
didn't want to go forward. I have a cynical view
of why that happened, But be that as it may.
Let's not get too far in the weeds. Watson could

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have played last year if he wanted to. He was
fully eligible. I don't want to hear about time served.
Simply not true, not true, not true. Uh, he was
paid ten point four or five man and he was
his decision, not the place that he never played for
the Texans, and he meant it and he he didn't.
So now, okay, the NFL after the six games suspension

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at seventy two hours to to reply and they have
all right, the NFL is appealing the Shawn Watson's suspension.
So what now, Well, it's been well documented the NFL
always wanted Watson to receive his suspension of at least
one year. With that in mind, it stands to reason

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that the league will be seeking exactly that when the
appeal process begins. As for how that process will go,
Roger Goodell has chosen his designy and they will have
the last call. Now, it's highly it checked that it's
highly likely that an appeal process that the NFL has initiated,

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and I think they are in control of Deshaun Watson's
destiny right now, and he's gonna get more time added
to his suspension. What's curious here is the fact that
recent reports have vindicated that it really didn't have to
come to this. You see, Watson was reportedly given the
option to settle. What Judge Robinson said, she let she
she got the side together. She gave almost a month,

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and the NFL wanted a full season, and Deshaun Watson's team,
I don't think wanted anything. They settled on X games.
They were kind of happy, they did this happy dance.
They kind of told on themselves, and they were engaged
in the negotiation of a settlement and obviously none was reached.
And that's why, you know, Judge said six games. She
she kind of she kind of used sentencing guidelines, which

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don't really matter in this situation. And allegedly, while the
NFL was intent on seeing Watson suspended for a full year,
the league was prepared to reduce the length of time
through a settlement. So what was the NFL's offer the
NFL offered. According to reports, the final offer was a
twelve game suspension along with the fine of ten million,

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which I think could have been negotiated down to eight.
Watson could be on the field and be done with this.
Now you have to wait till week thirteen, but it
would be behind him. Then Cleveland would half their franchise quarterback.
The next five years they'd be paying to de Shawn
Watson tacks. Coincidentally, he was paid. Remember he was paid
um uh ten point four five million last year. So

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why didn't Watson just accept that offer? Okay, there are
many variables and moving parts to this, but what we
can understand is that Watson's team simply dismissed the idea
of a settlement because they were unwilling to accept any
offer that would see the quarterback suspended for more than

(47:20):
six to eight games. It's also understood Watson indicated he
was not prepared to pay any heavy fines. All g
too bad. You got ten point four million for sitting
around and just signed for two arter and thirty called
cost of doing business. You should have cut your losses.
You blew it. It's like Adam Sandler said that movie,
you blow it all right. So here's here's where we're out.

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I think it's a safe assumption here is that Watson
and his representatives, so fine, We'll take our chances. The
problem is, with things being as they are, it appears
to me, my opinion, this gamble was a mistake. Had
had Watson accepted the offer, he wouldn't be facing an
appeal process and with it the very real possibility of

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even more severe punishment. So what's the bottom line now?
Does Watson have any hope? Ironically, here's there is a
little bit of a silver lining here. Ironically, the NFL
may have inadvertently done Watson a favor. See by starting
the process of appealing and suspension, there's now potentially time

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on the clock again. And if you are hopeful to
see your DeShawn Watson on the field, and you're Cleveland
Brown fan, you would hope that Watson's legal team will
use this time here in an effort to negotiate with
the NFL. And given where things are at, I would
say the best Watson could hope for now is that
twelve game suspension. So you accept the twelve games suspension,

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which was the original settlement offer, and if there's a fine,
you negotiate the fine, you agree to take treatment, and
you're back in business. See. Look, human beings, you can
deal with bad news. They can deal with good news.
What they don't like to deal with his uncertainty. There's
a tremendous amount of uncertainty here, all right. So if
you take the twelve games again, the NFL actually offered

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that quantity of games to Watson in the first place,
which means week thirteen. Yeah, you guessed it. Who would
the Browns play? They play the Texans in week thirteen.
Per Article forty six of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the
Commissioner or is designe will issue a written decision quote
that will constitute full, final and complete disposition of the

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dispute that will be binding upon the players, clubs and
parties to this agreement. The NFL also detailed in its
statement under the Personal Conduct Policy quote, the appeal will
be processed on an expedited basis. What does that mean.
I think it will be within two weeks, limited to
consideration of the terms of discipline imposed and on and

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just a bunch of legalis here. Okay, so they don't
need to go down there. Uh. Look, when when Judge
Robinson recommended six games, she she in essence, she did
her job. Her ruling was correct. It's the punishment that
she dished out seemed to be completely unsatisfactory. And you know,

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the customers of the NFL have spoken out. People have
spoken out, the NFL have heated the trial balloon and okay,
so how does how does watson proposed suspension at six
games compared to others in recent history. Steelers quarterback Ben
Roethlisberger he received a six game expension. It was reduced
to four after he was accused of sexual sexual assault
in Georgia, and like Watson, he was ultimately not charged

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with a crime and involved one woman, not thirty. In seventeen,
Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott also received the six game
suspension despite no criminal charges stemming from the domestic violence accusations. Now,
remember there doesn't have to be criminal chargers. The NFL
personal conduct policy has to do with conduct detrimental. You
don't have to committed a crime. People mix that up

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all the time. Suspensions are handed out under Now those suspensions,
by the way, Roethlisberger and Ezekiel Elliott, they were handed
out under the previous collective barty In agreement, which gave
Goodell the power to make the initial disciplinary ruling, but
under the new cb A, they agreed to jointly approved
disciplinary in this case with Sue Robinson. I know this

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gets convoluted, but the NFL, still in the union, agreed
to this. The NFL could appeal. So what's next. If
you're gonna make a chess move, Well, Deshaun Watson could
copy the Tom Brady move receued the NFL and federal
court that enabled him to play the season. They kicked
the can down the road. Brady missed the first four

(51:43):
games of the season. He recalled that he lost. He
lost that appeal, but he bought himself a year. Ezekiel
Elliott also lost his appeal. If Watson's team is stupid
enough to do this, remember next year, they'll make forty
six million dollars. Deshaun Watson is clear to make four.
He's six million in his contract this year. The way
they structured it, he was just he had you to

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make one million for the entire year, and so he'd
only lose out on about three and salary only. I say,
if they kicked the can down the road and he's
able to play this year, And by the way, according
to Mike Florio and I believe him. I think he's right.
I listened to him. He said that that we're talking
about weeks seven here, because do you remember there's been
a lot of people go on the radio give misinformation. Well,

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you could theoretically be back week one. The way I
understand is the way it's been explained to me. No,
the Union already said they weren't going to appeal. They didn't.
So the six games are there, they're they're there. So
they're talking about week seven now, not week one, and
that's where things stand. Uh, you know how I feel
about this. Um, we're bringing the crew, Let's see what

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they think, uh coming up. What I want to do
is get their thoughts on, uh real quickly, what they
think the NFL will do and what they would do
if they were Roger Goodell's designique. Coming up. I'm Bernie Fratto.
We are coming to your life from the Las Vegas
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Stick and stay. This is Fox
Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on

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Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Bernie Fraddock come in
to your life for the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio
Studios talking to Shaun Watson. On a second, I'm bringing
the crew. I just want to amplify something I've heard of.
Tons of people come onto, Oh it could be back
week one. No, No, I don't think so. Okay. First
of all, there are multiple serious, you know, issues with

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this contention. The NFL did not challenges six game expension
is suspension, and the NFL argued only that six games
weren't enough. By the way, the NFL p A did
not appeal the decision. They said they weren't, and they didn't.
That would have been the best and safest way to
put Week one three weeks six in play for a
corridor that would have allowed Watson to play. But the

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union apparently, you know, they balanced their pr concerns as well,
and they were happy with the six game suspension. Third,
there's nothing in the Personal Conduct Policy that indicates that
an appeal automatically wipes out the prior punishment from the books.
So do I think Deshaun Watson, regardless of what legal
machination happens between now and the next two weeks, will

(54:10):
be their Week one? I do not. Okay. Could I
be standing corrected, maybe, But based on what I know
now and the sources I've talked to, I do not.
I believe the NFL is seeking a full season, a
ten million dollar fine and treatment. That's what I've been told.
Let's bring in the crew, Mossy bos you got the floor,
take it where you want. Well, it should definitely be

(54:31):
a season, of course, I mean we're handling this all
at once, but if you really think about it, let's
say that this was the twenty third time we're dealing
with this, it would be multiple games, more than six,
more than a season. At this point. This is a
type of behavior that any employer should be embarrassed to
have in their employee. He was a predator. I hate it.

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You weren't at the bar trying to pick up on
a girl. You were using your power, your money and
bringing these women who thought we're gonna work and putting
them in a vulnerable position. Go be a player, but
go to the bar and pick them up. Don't do
it the way you were doing it. That is a
terrible quality and it should definitely be a season. I
think the guy what's what's Harvey? What is his name?
The guy that's uh, Peter Harvey. He is the appointed

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who has had experience in the NFL with this stuff.
He had he participated or he had he consulted in
the decision for Ezekiel Elliott back in, so he has
some experience. I think we're going to see a double
digit suspension. I don't know if it will be the
whole season. I hope it is, but I see I
think we're going to see a double digit number. Yeah.

(55:39):
I think if the NFL p a smart to say, Okay,
i'll tell you what, we'll take the twelve games, but
let's negotiate the fine. Yeah, and I think they'll come
back with something that the league will now show that
he's being accountable for the actions. All right, good, good stuff, mon,
Christopher fet your thoughts. This is a hard one for me,
Bernie Um. This has always been a hard topic for me.

(55:59):
I I don't talk about it too much. I myself
am a victim of sexual abuse, so every time these
kind of topics come up, Uh, it's rough on me.
And if it's going to be anything for the NFL,
I think it's just got to go indefinite. I'm saying
that even taking my own personal emotions out of it.
But I think if there isn't anyone who is a

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prototype for the idea of staining the shield it's been
to Shaun Watson so far. It's been how this thing
has been handed for so long. And I think it
was an utter embarrassment for the entire process to have
someone like Sue L. Robinson coming out talking about how
this was and I know she was quoting a lot
of the proceedings saying that these were non violent sexual

(56:40):
of abuse acts, which there's no such thing. How About
how about intimidation, how about how about you know, mental anguish.
That's where I was going to go. Speaking from my
own personal experience, It's something that takes a very long
time to get through. It takes a very long time
to get over it. Uh, your entire persona is kind

(57:03):
of is changed over the years. It happened early on.
For me, it's something I still have not really gotten
over myself. It's something I've still have to deal with
in a lot of different ways. And it it having
this around just sucks. I know this this comes up
all the time in sports. I know every now and
then we get these, but it I I think the

(57:25):
NFL should come down as hard as they possibly can
on Deshaun Watson. You know what throw out throughout the
throughout the gloves on this because just and I think
I think they probably can. And if I'm the nfl
p A, I I agree with what you were saying.
There is like they should punt on this, Like the
pr for defending Deshaun Watson is just not going to
be good. The m l b p A a much
stronger leak punted on the idea of even trying to

(57:47):
defend Trevor Bauer. And I think the nfl p A
probably has to take a page from their playbook as well.
This is a very toxic situation. You've got to make
some sort of defense, but there's nothing nothing you can
do to save your image buying anything to the sky.
And you mentioned indefinite. For me, that is in play,

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and I'm gonna tell you why. There's still one outstanding
suit that hasn't been settled yet. And until that's completely settled,
this is behind him and we are still, I believe,
from my calculations, probably nine months away from the uh,
the the the the uh. What do we call it?

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I just I it's the legal term. The statue limitations,
excuse me, so some of them. Someone could come out
of left field and sue again between now or more
than one between now and the next May. So if
they clear it and he comes back and all indefinite
means it's not a precise amount of time, right, Maybe
they give him the rest of the season, but he
straightened up, flies right, completes. You know, the treatment program

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pays a huge fine in these back week thirteen or something,
but you start out in definite. It's in precise until
these things are are are cleaned up. So that's on
the table. A bull Benson, how's everything? What's up? What
do you? What do you? What are your thoughts on this?
I'm tired of Deshaun Watson and I'm tired of hearing
are m Yeah, it's uh I I I don't think

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that we'll ever hear about any more women coming forward
because I think once DeShawn gets this all settled, that
he'll just quietly settle with anybody that continues to come forward,
which I have to imagine will be plenty of people,
because he's obviously a serial predator and probably shouldn't play again.
But I think if you're not jaded by the NFL

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at this point, you have a much stronger willpower than
like I do, um because Deshawn's gonna play football again.
It's gonna happen. Um, hopefully he gets you know, double
digit game suspension, but I'm just not convinced that he's
going to just because it seems like the NFL had
the opportunity to do so. I don't know if you
guys saw Tony Buzby was on one of the shows

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and he was really kind of giving it to the
NFL for an not giving up as much evidence as
he felt they had to get a higher suspension in
the first place. So I'm I'm not convinced they're going
to do it correctly with the second time, But I
guess we'll see. But the sooner it's over the better
because I'm just tired of hearing about it. Yeah, we're
all sick of it. Um. I think to your point,

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the NFL biff this from the get and I think
they're going for a makeup call now again, I I
at the risk of being redundant. There there's clearly a
PR component to this. Uh, there's a pr impetus. There's
a pr subtext, there's a PR context. The NFL did
not make him accountable. You know, he's gonna come back
and play again in the League. Okay, I do believe

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people should get second chances once he's proven he's worthy. Uh.
These are you know, dissimilar, but similar in that Back
in two thousand nine, I was in the year in
Detroit and when Michael Vick was getting ready to go
to prison. Uh, he paid his debt to society. He's
come out a better man. He's done a lot of
really good things. And he played five six more years
in the f FELUS a Pro Bowl or twice. Um.

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I remember doing shows like this. We would take callers
and you know, the Philadelphia Eagles, we're talking about signing them,
and people said they would blockade the stadium, and I said, look,
the man pays his debt to society, and let's see
if some good couldn't come out of this. One of
the biggest problems for me, and I think everybody probably agree,
is a lack of contrition. Even at the Six Games.

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The the tone deaf press conference and Kevin Stefanski and
the Cleveland Browns gave to me was so weak and
so contrived and so pre programmed. It sounded so insincere
and disingenuous. You know, Shaun's upset about this, dude, I don't.
I don't recall feeling any remorse coming out of Deshaun Watson,
and I think that's one of the biggest issues here.

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It's his demeanor from the get go has been one
of denial, one of he's never he's never shown any
remorse whatsoever for what we all know he did. The
statement they had was very weird. It's like, we accept this,
but also we did not, like theyre trying to claim
this as a victory for there. It was very weird.
Deshaun has shown zero remorse for his actions that we

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all know he did. Because thirty thirty separate women or
I mean really it was something like sixty women that
had encounters with the Shawn all had similar stories, so
they're not all just making it up. He did all this.
It's just, you know the end, I have no trust
personally that the NFL will ever figure this stuff out,

(01:02:28):
based on their past history and what they've done here
with the Deshaun Watson case, based on the past history. Uh,
I understand exactly where you're coming from. I think this
is I said this weeks ago that this is going
to be a referendum on the NFL and their Uh,
their mobility and willingness to take serious cases of sexual misconduct.

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We shall see. I think you'll find out sooner rather
than later, within the next week or two. Coming up,
more legal stuff, a group of Live god offers led
by Phil Nicholson, a total of eleven, have filed an
anti trust lawsuit against the PGA. We'll tell you all
about it coming up. But first, Well, he hit a
three run home run tonight for the Dodgers, and if

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she married him, her name would be Marcy. No, I
don't want that. I don't like it. I don't I've
been asked that before. I don't like it that I
would I would keep Bolano, he would become Max Bolano.
That that kind of rolls off the tongue. Well act, yeah,
Max Bilanyos, That's exactly what we would do. Yeah. He

(01:03:36):
had a three run homer to put the Dodgers up
for their seventh consecutive win. They beat the Padres again. Uh,
listen to Padres. They had that big trade, they got
Juan Soto, but in these last two games they definitely
have not lived up to the expectation Malosi. But we'll
see if they can pick it up. Fernando Tattoos Jr.

(01:03:57):
Is back. He's back on rehab assignment, so we'll see
the Padres can get a little steam going after getting
Juana Soda earlier this week. Now the Mets they're also
killing it. They swept the Braves in their doubleheader. Max
scherz Or eleven strikeouts over seven innings. Pete Alonso ninety
three RBIs for this season. He has tied with Aaron
Judge for the most in Major League Baseball. The Cardinals

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they handed the Yankees are fourth straight loss. The Yankees
are struggling since the All Star Break. They held the
Yankees to just two hits last night, while the Cardinals
they now won six in a row, which is the
season high for them. That one run that the Cardinals
scored was all Nolan Arenaldo. He drove it in with
an RB. I'm they are in first place in the
NL Central with their win, especially with the Brewers lost

(01:04:40):
to the Reds, which was seven to five. The Phillies
they pounded the Nationals eleven to five. We also had
victories from the Orioles, the Royals, who walked it off
in the ninth inning to beat the Red Sox, the Giants,
the Cups, the Rangers. A little bit of NBA news
In case anybody's wondering what Kevin Durant and James Harden
are up to. They are in London um showering Travis

(01:05:03):
Scott wish champagne at his concerts, So if anyone's wondering
what's going on with them, that's what they're doing. They
were all over social media, including all over the Kardashian
what is her name? No Jenner? What is Travis Scott's
girlfriend's name? Why am I blanking out the Jenner girl?
Whatever her name? She posted? Kylie, thank you. Kylie posted
a video and it was James Harden and Kevin Durant

(01:05:25):
spraying him with champagne. So that's what they're doing. They're
not playing basketball there in London, having a little bit
of fun. In the NFL. Exciting news for this for
Saints fans. Michael Thomas wide receiver Michael Thomas. He participated
in eleven on eleven drills for the first time in
nearly two years. So good news for Saints fans. Uh.
Not more good news for the Brown fans. Uh. Kareem

(01:05:48):
Hunt is skipping his team drills because he's upset with
his contract Uh, they thought that he was gonna play
out this year and they were going to talk about
his contract at the end of the year. Nope, he's
skipping team drills. He's probably going to be fined. Matt Stafford,
quarterback of the Rams, he actually practiced and seemed to
be doing okay, told the media that he was just

(01:06:09):
a little sore but that his elbow is okay. This
is what head coach Sean McVeigh had to say about that.
The way that he looked today, Um, I don't think
you would know that anything was going on, and he
felt good, and so I think that's Uh. I know
that I'm gonna sleep better today. So Sean McVeigh is
going to sleep better knowing that Matthew Stafford is doing
okay and throwing pretty good despite the issue with his elbow.

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Back to you, Bernie, right, thanks, Monsey, All right? More
legal stuff. Group of eleven well, I guess you'd call
him live golfers, including Phil Mickelson and Bryson Dsham. But
where they filed in any trust lawsuit against the p
g A last Wednesday and what they are challenging are
the suspensions imposed by the PGA Tour back in June,

(01:06:54):
and many of them are also seeking a restraining order
that would allow him to play in this week's FedEx
Cup playoffs. So what do we make of this situation?
All right? First of all, it's a bit of a
mixed message. On June, uh, Pat Perez blamed the FedEx
Cup Playoffs for missing the birth of his son, pointing
to it as a primary reason why he needed to

(01:07:15):
escape the PGA Tour and it's grueling schedule. On August three,
Perez joined the lawsuit and hopes of being able to
play on the PGA Tour Again, that's a little bit, uh,
you know, hypocritical, but it was inevitable. Look, we've been
waiting for this moment for some time. And and Greg Norman,
in addition to the private jets and the big pay

(01:07:35):
hundred twenty grand just for showing up, they announced, and
we mentioned on the show weeks ago that if the
l i V golfers that have defected over needed to
sue the p G A that the l i V
would provide not only legal representation, but pay for it. Right.
So you've got an injunction filed by Taylor Gooch and
hud Hudson Swofford and Matt Jones. They want to participate

(01:07:58):
in the playoffs. That puts a little bit bit of
urgency into this situation because those playoffs start, I believe
this upcoming week now. The PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan,
he sent a letter to the current tour players and
said Michelson and the rest are basically trying to promote
themselves and to free r out on benefits of efforts

(01:08:19):
of the p g A. And that's probably true, but look, uh,
I restrained trade always bothers me. This whole thing is uncomfortable.
I get it. But what I'm trying to do is
maintain my objective analysis here and and and you know,
they want to compete in the FedEx. What I think
is what the p g A should do is sit

(01:08:41):
back and see if the if you know, the LV
Tour is gonna make it on its owners. Think that. Look.
The Wall Street Journal first reported the players that were
challenging their suspensions, which include in definite suspension for some
players who participated in any l iv golf uh event
without you know, you know there have been conflicts, but
the PGA players would have there's only been one. I

(01:09:04):
think tournament where the two going up against each other.
So the tour announced the PGA Tour, that is, they
announced they would not be granting any such releases for
the eight events to be played this year. Now that
the l IV has already had three events, they got
five more to go. Bryson D. Shambo he's part of
the lawsuit. He's also seeking a restraining order. He wants

(01:09:25):
to play next week at the FedEx St. Jude Invitational
and then follow up with the BMW Championship and the
Tour Championship. And Gucci is currently twenty and FedEx Cup
rating is Jones sixty two s. Bottom line is they
would each easily qualify. So the players are bringing this
action to challenge the PGA. They believe it's anti competitive.

(01:09:45):
They believe those rules are any trust type rules, and
they want to vindicate their rights because they see themselves
as independent contractors to be able to play where and
when they choose, and despite the pj's efforts to stifle competition.
The bottom line is golfers want a golf and listen,
there's some merit to this. I'll be curious to see

(01:10:07):
what happens, which basically starts to beg the question is
it a situation now where because it is disruptive, is
the l i V product any good? And what I
want to do next week is give kind of an
overview analysis of what I think of the overall situation.
But every week there's something new in the news about
the l i V. It never ends. It's never gonna end.

(01:10:30):
And I would say get used to it, because as
long as this season goes, and as long as the
big You've now got nine of the top forty, and
you know there are other players considering jumping over there,
their approaching announcers, they may get a TV contract. It
just ain't going away. Coming up, One particular team hits

(01:10:51):
seven solo home runs Tuesday night and lost. How the
hell does that happened? And by the way, Massachusetts lawmakers
are proved to bill if you look can to bet
legally in the great state of Massachusetts, we might have
some pretty good news for you. Keep it locked right here.
I'm Bernie fraderwere company a line from the Las Vegas
Fox Sports Radio studios going don't go away. You're listening

(01:11:11):
to Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio Now right
back on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio and Bernie
Fraddock Company live in the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio
students and about fifteen minutes to dance Sensation sweeping the Nation.
Of course, what kind of brand new fool are you?
Followed by what my name? By the way, not for nothing,
just a brief history of recent NFL suspensions from Roger Goodell.

(01:11:34):
Remember Calvin Ridley got seventeen games, but that was under
the league's gambling policy. Had nothing to do with the
personal conduct policy. Vontes Berfeckt, former linebacker. He had twelve
games once for targeting twelve games. DeAndre Hopkins, Remember he
got six games for p E d s. Martevius Bryant,

(01:11:55):
He's the one guy who got an indefinite suspension for
we Josh Gordon, former receiver Cleveland Browns five plus games Weed,
Darren Waller, he once got sixteen games for substance abuse.
Raiders tied end. And okay, now we're back to Deshaun Watson.
Currently he's sitting on six games for twenty five sexual

(01:12:18):
misconduct allegations. Accusations. This is not over. And uh, I
think that the crew has spoken succinctly and I'm in
agreement by the way. Uh, the Angels. They had seven
solo home runs and lost Tuesday night? What else can
go wrong for these guys. It's just an incredulous season.

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And when when the team smacks seven home runs in
a night, you typically assume they would win the game.
The Los Angeles Angels, you don't should go back and
just call them the damn California Angels, Like, what's what
they were when I was growing up? But somehow they didn't.
They tied a major league record with seven home runs
in the game, but they lost through their arrival the

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g eight to seven. On Thursday. All seven home runs
were solo home runs. The Angels only lad for the
first two innings. They hit two solo home runs in
each of the first two innings before the Oakland A's
pour it on with a six run third inning. Two
of the seven home runs for the Angels came from

(01:13:21):
Shoho Tani. Now, the Angels tied again a dubious major
league record when they smashed seven home runs, all solo shots,
but they lose eight to seven. This was Thursday night.
They're just the second team in major league history he
hit seven solo home runs and lose. According to ESPN,
stats and information. Also the first team in the majors.

(01:13:42):
They had seven solo home runs and score no other runs.
It just seems to get worse for the Angels. Now
some good news for the fine folks of Massachusetts. Uh,
Massachusetts lawmakers. They approved a bill to legalize sports betting

(01:14:04):
on professional and college sports. So it looks like I
think currently, remember PASPA, the Professional Sports Amateur Act, was
overturned in ten. This is something President George Bush rode
into law in the only state that was legal was Nevada,

(01:14:24):
and I think, well maybe Delaware in New Jersey. But
this is sports betting now. This isn't casino betting, slot
machines and in blackjack and all that. This is sports betting.
Since overturning PASPA in May, currently, I believe thirty two
states have legalized sports betting in some former fashion, many
starting to have the apps to prick and mortar. There

(01:14:46):
are five or six where there's uh applications in place,
as it were, legislation in place. But the good news
is in Massachusetts. Uh. Just this last Monday, the Democrats
of the House and Senate reached an agreement very early
Monday morning Eastern time, on a bill to legalize betting

(01:15:07):
on both professional and college sports. Now the speaker, Ron Mariano,
he tweeted about it and as the news was breaking
right around five am Eastern time, I believe, last Monday,
he said, quote, I am proud to announce that the
Sports Betting Conference Committee has reached an agreement on legislation

(01:15:29):
that will legalize wagering on professional and collegiate sports in Massachusetts,
bringing the immense economic benefits of a legal sports betting
industry to Massachusetts. This is I'm talking about, the speaker
and in the Massachusetts Ron Marianna and the lawmakers did

(01:15:50):
explain that within the proposed bill, betting would be allowed
only though on out of state colleges and universities, but
not those in Massachusetts. Now, they did hint that if
a college basketball team were to make it to March Madness,

(01:16:10):
an exception could be made at that time. So what
Boston College, you mass who Julius Irving went? We'll see.
And also the waiting game isn't isn't completely over? Just
yet not completely over. The bill has to go to
Governor Charlie Baker, who has ten days to either prove

(01:16:32):
it or reject it. And in Massachusetts, they probably shouldn't
be too worried about Baker rejecting the bill, however, because
he was the only one who originally proposed a sports
bidding bill for the stake for the state Massachusetts back
in ten Now, Massachusetts is the latest or check that there.

(01:16:52):
I guess you could say they're they're late to the
legalized sports betting game at this point because, as I
mentioned earlier, about thirty two states have not legalized sports
wagering in recent years. And well, the bottom line is,
they've still gotta get this done, and lawmakers do don
know exactly where betty could start in Massachusetts, although Marianno
noted the casinos are prepared to open now, but they

(01:17:17):
must await these formal regulations and the governor to sign
off on it. A couple of other bits of note.
You know, you know that Joey Chestnut won his fifteen
hot dog eating contests a few weeks back on July four.
That was fifteen in sixteen years. But you know, Joey Chestnut,

(01:17:42):
he didn't he didn't finish there. He's also a world
record holder for eating five or no. He ate twenty
five pound cornedby sandwiches in ten minutes, a hundred eighty
two wings in thirty minutes, a hundred and four, the
one hard boiled eggs in eight minutes, in thirty two,

(01:18:03):
Big Max in thirty eight minutes. Okay, Joey, I love
you man. Anything to drink with that? By the way,
in case you missed it, the Hall of Fame game
is in the books now and the Raiders win twenty
seven to eleven. Turns out the game, the Jaguars were
laying minus one, but Wednesday night professional bettors came in

(01:18:26):
in the line went all the way to the Raiders
minus two and a half. Why did that happen Because
once it was determined that the game was going to
be played on Josh McDaniel's old high school field, or
Kent McKinley High School, where he was a high school
hero and his dad was a coach and a legendary
coach and they won state championships, it clear. It was

(01:18:47):
clear the Raiders were gonna go back and they were
gonna have a situation where they were fired up to
do this. And this is the key to preseason football,
finding those edges. Okay, and what that basically means is
you're and a half times in in preseason football where
one team is more motivated and the other one cares
if they win, the other doesn't care if they win

(01:19:08):
so much uh and and that's what you saw. That's
what you saw. And by the way, the Cleveland Browns,
their odds moved a little bit. They were down thirty
to one, down to twenty to one to win the
Super Bowl. And that was when Deshaun Watson and they
were giddy. He was only gonna get six games. That
could change something. You want to stay tuned for. Something

(01:19:29):
you also want to stay tuned for. Coming up, we're
gonna bring you the dance sensation, swinging the nation, sweeping
the nation, something we affectionately call what kind of brand
new fool? You followed by what my name? So keep
it locked on, Bernie Fratto. This is Fox Sports Sunday
and Fox Sports Radio. The Fox Sports Sunday train keeps
rolling right along. Three down, one to go on, Bernie

(01:19:53):
Fratto or coming you Alive from the Las Vegas Fox
Sports Radio Studios. We've got a packed and I mean
packed final hour for you. But it's at this time
every week that the great ful Nation waits with bated breath,
because every day in this great land of ours that
around the world, people do things crazy, stupid, wacky, and

(01:20:18):
we have turned it into a segment that we affectionately
refer to as what kind of brand new fool are you?
I got one and a half this week, real quickly.
Aubren quarterback t J. Finley was arrested Friday trying to
elude the police, one day after sending a lucrative n
I L deal with Amazon. But I got one better
than that. Look, there was a burglar who broke into

(01:20:41):
the corporate office of a donut company in San Francisco
last week. Not the donut shop itself, the corporate office
the donut shop, not Johnny's Donuts, Johnny Donuts, you got
that up and sent. But and apparently the San raphael
Police Department's looking for the guy. Right there's ad minute
of surveillance footage that shows his suspect walking in and

(01:21:03):
out of the camera's view. He goes back and forth
between rooms and in the storage area multiple times, and
he opened his filing cabinet up and he also took
the keys to one of the delivery bakery vehicles. But
he didn't steer the vehicle. Here's what's crazy. After he
stole what he wanted to steal, he returns to the
crime scene. Surely thereafter we tetreat to retrieve his own keys,

(01:21:27):
which he apparently mistakenly left behind. But here's the kicker.
The guy breaks into the corporate office of a donut
shop Johnny Donut in San Francisco Bay Area to steal
what petty cash? Are you kidding me? What kind of
brand new fool are you? Monty Blogos your next? Al Right,

(01:21:48):
I have a brand new fool and also, let's say,
maybe even a hero along with the fool. So this
happened in Florida. Shocker. There was a woman who just
I did, to get inebriated and then drive her golf
cart into the Inner State of Florida interstate. Uh, she

(01:22:11):
was found or she was seen by a semi truck
driver and then apparently this person called and was like,
you know, there's a person driving a golf cart and
they keep passing out on the freeway while they're driving.
So the truck used the semi truck steered the golf
cart to the shoulder of the Inner State to stop her.
And then once they got to the shoulder. The truck driver,

(01:22:32):
you know, took the keys of the of the golf
car and the woman tried to you know, run away.
She started arguing with them, and the troops showed up.
She insisted that she needed her bag that was in
the golf cart. They went to get this bag and
they found an open bottle of Jack Daniels in it.
So listen, what kind of fool are you? I don't know,
but this truck driver is a hero po show that's

(01:22:54):
got a lot of moving parts. All right, good stuff mine,
Chris Perfett. All right, Berndy, We're taking you to Montana
where a home purchased a re a new home, newly
built home, and they were moving in from Washington state. Uh,
they had they had there. Apparently an aunt was supposed

(01:23:14):
to watch the house. She's the fool in the story
because she did not watch the house. And what happened
is that, Uh, you know, sometimes you get animals that
enter into a home when you're not thinking about it.
You know, maybe you got rats or something, Maybe you
got some cockroaches. How about all how about a bunch
of cows? How about a bunch of cows? That's exactly

(01:23:36):
what happened here. Uh, the aunt was supposed to be
checking on this place, and she did not. A rancher
that week filed a report about missing cattle and had
even checked their barn, but he didn't check the house.
A bad storm had apparently sent the cows into the
house for shelter. Maybe that they either nudge the door
open or that the storm had blown the door open. Anyway,

(01:23:58):
these cattles took residents in the house, and there is
pictures and what was once the pristine white interior of
the house is not very pristine and white. I don't
even think I can see the floor in this picture.
With what's on the floor, you can only imagine. Bernie,
where did this take place with Montana? You said that?
He said at the beginning, I'm sorry, I just got

(01:24:19):
so caught up in the cows. Yeah, I'm like, how
I so? No, so the ends of the full because
at some point you would want to go check on
the house and make sure that cows have not entered
your house and made themselves made that place one giant
litter box, minus the litter and minus the box. Wow,
we're setting records today. Man, This is uh, this is

(01:24:42):
good stuff. Jack Daniels, golf carts, freeways, cows. We're gonna
milk that for all sorts? Oh no, no, who writes
this stuff? All right, good stuff, Chris, all right, both Benson,
you're up? All right. I have a couple of quick ones,
both unfortunately take place on Twitter and the internet. Um.
Number one, why watch the new movie out on Hulu
yesterday called Prey. It's a prequel to a Predator from

(01:25:05):
the nineteen eighties. Very good movie. Uh. It made a
bunch of people mad because it has a woman in
the movie in the lead role instead of a burly guy,
and they don't like that. So that's funny because the
movie is very good. Really though. Um. The fool this
week is uh Genie bus for having her Twitter account
hacked and trying to sell PlayStation five's. Um. She tweeted

(01:25:29):
out this. I think it was like Tuesday or Wednesday,
Twitter family. I have three PS fives for sale for
you guys, DM me to purchase. All proceeds will go
directly towards charity, and everyone that purchases one will have
the chance to attend the Lakers game. Uh it was
not her she was hacked. I think the scary part
is that this is the owner of probably the NBA's
premiere franchise. And I wasn't sure when I first saw

(01:25:49):
it if that was her or not her, But she
did indeed have her account hacked. And I've heard that situation.
Um were people's Twitter or concert hacked and it's somebody
trying to sell place station. Nobody, nobody's safe. It happened
to our very own Arnie Spaniard. I had to tell him.
I had to tell him about that. But but your

(01:26:12):
to your point. Genie tries to turn around and turn
it into a promotion like I'm a good guy type
of thing, and it's it's kind of falling deaf. No,
that was Yeah, she just straight up got hacked. And
so you know, uh, Lakers fans should all feel very
secure with Genie bus running the running the show if
she can't even secure her Twitter accounts. Oh boy, all right,

(01:26:33):
good stuff, everybody good, good good stuff. All right. So
now another week in the books having to do with
what kind of brand new fool you? And then that
is that provides a perfect segue into the second favorite
dance sensation tweep of the nation, the game show We
Call What My Name? All right here we go. We

(01:26:55):
got some easy ones and we got some tough ones.
I think the crew in five for five last week final. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Kevin was here so well regardless, you know what I mean. Hey, hey, hey, alright,
let's go. Let's let's let's let her rip. In nineteen
eighty three, while playing a game in Toronto, while I

(01:27:15):
was with the New York Yankees, playing catch between innings,
I threw a ball that hit a seagull and killed
the seagull. Chris Perfett, What my name, it's not Randy Johnson,
I'll say Randy Johnson. That was course he was pitching.
You smoke that bird right now. He's the only bird
killer I can think that was. That was more recent
alright in three, while playing for the New York Innkies

(01:27:38):
in the game in Toronto, playing catch between innings in
right field, I threw a ball that hit a seagull
and killed and monster. Belongos my name, So the first
name is Dave. I know that, I just cannot think
of the last name. I'm in pressed monse alright three
bowl playing catching right field for the Yankees against Toronto.

(01:27:58):
Killed the seagull. What my name? Don Mattingly, it's not
a bad guest, So okay, man that was look here,
Monsey almost got it was Dave Winfield. I was like, no, no,
I was alver gonna get it, even if you gave
me that option. I was like, you got Dave. Yeah,
I just knew that. I remember that story because it's
a it's a crazy story. It's crazy story. I might

(01:28:19):
have a little bit more to it in a minute.
So in nineteen eighty three, I was Dave Winfield's manager,
managing the Yankees when that whole seagull situation broke out.
Chris Perfette, what my name? Oh? Uh buck show Walter
a little bit before his time, but good guests, all right,
nineteen eighty three, I was managing in New York Yankees.

(01:28:39):
I was Dave Winfield's manager during the seagull incident in
New York. Monter belongs what my name? No idea? Aaron
Boone's grandfather. That would be Ray Boon and actually played
for the Tigers. Alright, alright, uh three. I was managing
in New York Yankees when we played Toronto and Dave
Winfield through that ball that killed the seagull. Uh bo Benson,

(01:29:01):
what my name, Uh, Joe Tory. It's actually Billy Martin.
Billy Martin, you guys remember Billy Martin. Of course, by
the way, this story has a little bit of a twist.
The Ontario Provincial Police took this very seriously and they
interviewed Billy Martin because they were trying to figure out

(01:29:22):
if Dave Winfield did it on purpose. And when they
asked Billy Martin, is it possible that Dave Winfield was
aiming for the seagull? And Billy Martin goes not a chance, Winfield,
hasn't it a cutoff? Man? In years? True story? All right?
We move along. On this day, Nolan Ryan hit me

(01:29:43):
with a pitch and I charged them on. It became
a famous video as he gave me noogies on my head.
Chris Perfette, what my name? Oh no, I know the video?
No I don't, I don't. What's his name? Timm? Alright,
no problem. On this day, Milan Ryan plump me. I
charged the moon. He gave me a few noggies. Mont Blani,
it's what my name? Not even a little bit? All right,

(01:30:11):
on the stage, charged them on, ruling Ryan hit me
with a pitch, Give me a few Nuggies in my head,
Bill Benson, what my name? It's not ace Ventura, but
I do think it is Robin Ventura. Bamn, there we go.
I know we weren't going to get blank nicely done,
you believe it? Twenty nine years ago today, I remember
that LED SportsCenter that night. All right, here we go.

(01:30:31):
This is the first ever we're looking for the name
of a team. Now we're looking for the name of
a team's in nineteen seventy two, my name is Nate Colbert.
Seventy two, I had thirteen rb I s and a
double header against the Dodgers playing for this team. What
my name Chris Perfett? Sorry, hold hold on, uh, I'm

(01:30:55):
gonna say Atlanta Braves. Okay, I'm sorry. Not bad. Not
seventy two. I had thirteen RBIs. My name is Nick
Colbert in a doubleheader against the Dodgers, playing for this
team mont Belan's what my team name? The expose? I
like it? Not bad, not bad? Okay. Nineteen seventy two bowl,

(01:31:17):
I had thirteen RBIs and a double head of My
name is Nick Colbert. I did it against the Dodgers.
I was playing for this team. What my name Pittsburgh Pirates.
I'm sorry. We've talked about this team a lot. Tonight
it's the San Diego Padres, San Diego Padres. Okay, final

(01:31:39):
one on this day, check that throw that out. Honest day.
I got my three thousand hit while playing for the Padres.
Christoper Fette, what my name um, Tony Gwynn. Bam, there
we go. By the way, I realized that I've learned

(01:32:02):
the other day, I was at a total line in
more or something and they had a there is a
Tony gwinn beer named for his batting average. Yeah, he
almost did four hundred. He did, but we batted four
hundred to night. Everybody was two for five. That's four hundred.
That's not bad. There hasn't been a four hundred hitter
in baseball, I think, what since Ted Williams had four

(01:32:22):
h sie. So see, we're making history, all right. Another
rousing edition of what kind of brand new fool are you?
And what my name? Coming up in about ten minutes
fifteen minutes, we'll have Christoph Frets World of Soccer, But
first bring it back out to Vegas. Plenty of ways
to bet Aaron Judge props this year because he's setting.
He's out there front and center, turned down the contract,

(01:32:45):
trying to prove everybody wrong. So we'll we'll feat your
making on Sports and talk about some of the data
surrounding Aaron Judge, IHN, Bernie Fretto were Comedy Alive for
the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked
right here. You're listening to Fox Sports Sunday and Fox
Sports Radio. All right back on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox
Sports Radio, Bernie Freddock, come to your life in the
Las Vegas Fox Sorts Radio studios and UH time to

(01:33:10):
bring you back out to Vegas and uh macin on
Sports McKenzie rivers. We have sort of an interesting dichotomy here,
an interesting juxtaposition because Aaron Uh Judge is having a
prolific offensive year, but his team not so much in
the last month, way under five and as usual on
the betting markets, there are overreactions. Yes, and there was

(01:33:34):
a lot large part of this season where they kind
of dovetailed. Judge was on pace for sixty six home
runs and the Yankees first team to fifty wins, first
team to sixty wins. However, since July six, one of
those trains that kept going down the tracks faster than
ever Aaron Judge a seventeen hundred ops entering today. Just
to put that in perspective, exactly one time in history,

(01:33:56):
in baseball history from the eighteen hundreds on, has someone
done better than that in an entire month. Barry Bonds
in two thousand four. So it hasn't been exactly a month.
It's only been about three weeks with this incredible torrid stretch.
But the market you mentioned it is noticing, and in
my opinion overreacting, shout out to John Hewing of Ben MGM.
He had this stat or I guess he's the only

(01:34:16):
person I would have the stat you know, proprietary data
of the bets at MGM on the Judge prop will
he hit a home run or not? Of the bets
today we're on Judge to hit that home run. That's
why you're seeing crazy prices that I think, I mean,
they're just not realistic. It was almost even money for
Judge to hit home run on Friday. That's like saying

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the guy's gonna hit eighty one home runs in a season.
It's just unrealistic. But we've seen the Yankees kind of
nose dive at the same time, only one nine of
their last fourteen. So that's interesting because the market hasn't
reacted to that. They're still four to one to win
the World Series. What do you think of the make
Yankees season? And do you think the market is uh
kind of giving them too much credit keeping them at

(01:34:59):
four to one when they've beviously done poorly lost today? Yeah,
I do. I'm not so sure they have the pitching
to carry him the postseason. There's a lot of good
teams in this tournament, the National League alone. You got
the Dodgers, Uh, the saame it was, Cardinals look very good.
Look look at the way they teamed with the Yankees
to for twenty eight today against the Cardinals. But moreover,
back to judge, because it's interesting for the odds to

(01:35:22):
be even money you're gonna hit a home run, It's
almost unheard of. What did you go, McKenzie, like twelve
out of fourteen games with a home run? And it
was quite a stretcher, right, he had eleven out of
twelve and I think twelve out of fourteen. Uh, it was.
It was incredible and you saw it in the A
L M v P odds. It was like forty cents
homer every time you hit it. You you look check
back on Vandel and the number was moving from four

(01:35:45):
days and went from minus one ten on July to
minus four hundred for Judge. You hit about three home
runs over that weekend last week, and the market definitely
caught notice, probably too much. So it's probably a little
bit too much fun. There's a little bit too many
people that got paid off betting that Edge will hit
a home run, and that's why you see all that
uh maybe dumb money flood back into the market. Well,

(01:36:05):
and that's what that's what we're seeing here. The book
is always look, it's a misnomer. Vegas is not in
business to predict the future. There in business to manage risks.
So the book is probably can't you know, folks, and
probably cashed a lot of tickets. I'm guessing that blows
me away. The tickets and whether or not Judge we
hit a home run. Now, there's other ways to also
bet Aaron Judge because of his offensive prowess and what

(01:36:28):
he's done. McKenzie. By the way, if you've seen the number,
is it moved on whether or not Judge will hit
more or less than sixty one home runs. I know
the pros were on the under, but I'm wonder if
that's moved now. Yes, for the very first time this
week it blipped where he was a favorite to break
Roger Marris's record of sixty one home runs, the franchise
Yankee record. I haven't checked since he's gone, you know,

(01:36:50):
three days without a homer, pretty rare. Hasn't been reposted,
but I would guess that he's now a slight underdog
to do that after a little bit of a cold
stretch amid this you know, three week stretch of twelve
you know, home run pretty much every game. Well, I
think three or four weeks ago he was minus four
hundred to go under because the theory was at the

(01:37:11):
rest him in July. Yeah, so that's changed, all right.
Let's also talk about the m v P odds because
he seems to be going back and forth with with Shoheyatani.
But it seems to me like Judge is the favorite. Yes,
it's been a two way race since about June, when
Judge was minus one twenty, Shohyotani was four to one

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and nobody else was even twenty to one, and then
Shoheyotani doing something we've never seen. You want to bring
up Babe Ruth. Babe Ruth never did this being a
top twenty hitter and pitcher in the same year. It's
unheard of in baseball history. Well, he's doing it for
a second year in a row. However, his hitting isn't
quite what it was last year. He wouldn't be an
All Star if he was just a hitter. He's a

(01:37:51):
little bit below that level. And as Judges caught fire,
we've seen these odds change. Like I said, it was
minus one twenty in June for Judge to win m
v P Fast We're all the way to the All
Star break. Otani was the favorite. He was minus one ten.
Judge was plus one forty. But it's been nothing but
Judge money the last few weeks. Even when Otani hit
back to back home runs, back to back single home runs,
it was kind of telling because the Angels hit seven

(01:38:14):
home runs in that game and they lost. And it's very,
very hard to vote for a narrative when the narrative
is this guy is on a losing team and they
tend to lose every game, especially when you have a
historic pace that Aaron Judges setting That's why that narrative.
I mean, statistically, you could argue war all those metrics
with the pitching added in Otani's right next to judge.

(01:38:34):
But the narrative of this is the summer to remember
this is this is soasan McGuire, Potentially he could get
up there in the sixties. Potentially absolutely. Uh. Now I
know that he's rookie year and he hit fifty two
year thirty. The All Star break has started to slow down.
I sort of trust a Vegas Markets on this. I
just found it. It turns out that it's still a

(01:38:55):
favorite to go under. He's minus two Hunter, which implies
about a sixty seven percent chance you gonna go under
sixty one and a half. If you're feeling sauce, you
go over sixty one and a half plus one sixty five.
That's about a thirty seven percent chance. But you've got
to play for Sunday's game. Yes, And first of all,
real quick, I'll tend to agree with you that he's
not gonna break Rogers Marris' record, mostly because people are

(01:39:16):
gonna pitch to him different. I mentioned by Bonds Amazing
April two thousand four. Well, that season he had two
forty walks. He had seventy more than anyone else ever had.
Because when he was hitting that sevent ops in April,
they're like, no moss, no moss, we are gonna pitch
around this guy. I think we're gonna see that same
thing with Aaron Judge heading down the stretch. That's why
one of the reasons why I love this bet total

(01:39:38):
bases under one and a half tomorrow. Walks don't count.
This is only hits. So if he gets a double,
I'm I'm done. If he gets a single and nothing else,
that's a winner. And it's plus one oh five. I've
never seen a plus money next to a total basis
number not one and a half. And he's facing Adam Wainwright,
who he has almost no experience against, only two at bats,

(01:39:58):
and Bernie you know this when it's new picture, with
very little experience against the hitter that picture, especially a
guy with curveballs, with a lot of tricky stuff. He
has the advantage. He has the advantage. You don't have
a you don't have a book on him. One final
thing is I find this interesting the odds for Aaron
Judge to win the Major League Baseball home run crowd.
He's minus seven hundred. That almost sounds like free money.

(01:40:20):
He's almost ten home runs. I think he's ten home
runs ahead of Kyle Schwarber. If I'm not mistaken, who's
got the only chance they catch him? You could make
four pent on your money about sixty days. I don't know,
minus seven hunter, would you take it or not? It's
better than if I was considering between that and a
certificate of deposit. I think I would go with Judge.
I think it is probably a better rate of return

(01:40:40):
in that sixty day period. And even if he gets hurt,
you know, God forbid he gets hurt in this magical
season comes to an end. Ten home runs is a
lot to make up with only sixty games left for
most teams. So I think Judge, will you know, call
me crazy, but I think that might MIGHTUS seven hundred
is gonna end up cashing. Yeah, and the other Yeah,
Schwarber's plus seven hundreds, So that's not great odds, you know, Yeah,

(01:41:03):
in terms of you know, you've got to catch Judge,
and what if Judges keeps hitting him, you you might
not be able to catch him. So even if God
forbid Judge can't play, would still be a tall order
to make up those ten tenemarons. All right, thanks a lot, Mackenzie.
I appreciate it. And uh, you mentioned the pitching in
the playoffs is gonna matter a lot. That's why I
don't think the Inankees are gonna win it. Look out
for the Astros. But appreciate you having me on, Bernie. Yeah,

(01:41:25):
very good, and I'm week. We can talk about that
maybe next week. The Astros are very much under the radar,
but not in my book. Okay, thanks a lot, mackenzie.
Coming up, Chris poer Freen's World of Soccer. It is
a World Cup here. There's no shortage of things in
the news. But first to go back to Mons Bolognos
with the latest. As a Dodgers fan, I hate to
admit that the Astros are kind of secretly preparing themselves

(01:41:51):
for something no one is expecting. I hate it. But
they were shopping for trash cans and Home Deeper the
other day exactly exactly. No, they're getting ready, and I
hate to admit it. By the way, Kyle Schwarber has
or Aaron Judge has nine more homers than Kyl Scharber nine.
And there's a fun story on TMZ Sports speaking about

(01:42:13):
uh Roger Marris' record, DMC spoke to Roger maris son,
Kevin Marris, and he actually does not want Aaron Judge
to break the record that his father has. He is
not for it. He's he's like, well, if it happens,
it happens, you know, but it's it's he's saying that
he doesn't he nobody wants the record to be broken
at the end of the day, so he's not necessarily

(01:42:34):
rooting for Aaron Judge to break his father's record of
sixty one. We'll see if it happens. He currently has
forty three, still plenty of games to go. But the
Yankees are definitely struggling. They have now lost four in
a row since the All Star Break. They are six
and ten. The Cardinals handed them that fourth straight loss.
They have now won six in a row, which is
a season high for them. They are in first place

(01:42:56):
by themselves in the NL Central. They had been kind
of going back and forth with the Brewers, but now
that the Brewers lost to the Reds, it is just
the Cardinals on top the n L Central. The Dodgers, yeah,
they've won seven in a row, but you know, we
don't have the best pitching, and pitching is what's gonna
win the World Series. So true, we'll see what happens.
But we've won seven in a row. We beat the
Padres for the second night in a row eight three.

(01:43:17):
Max Monthy had that three run homer to put the
Dodgers up the Mets. They swept the Braves and their
double header. Pete Alonso, he's also killing it. In the
second game, Pete Alonso had three singles, including one with
the bases loaded, to match Aaron Judge for the major
league lead with nine three RBIs. Max Schers are pitching
against doing real well. He had a season high eleven

(01:43:39):
strikeouts over seven innings in Game two. Uh, the Twins.
They beat the Blue Jays, so they still lead the
Ale Central by two games over the Guardians, who beat
the Astros for one. You were talking about the Angels, Yes,
the Angels. You know they're not playing well, but they're
giving the Mariners a hard time. They split their double header,
they beat them the other night, and the Mariners are
trying to get that wild card spot. So it's like, really, Angels,

(01:44:01):
this is when you want to start winning some games
or killing the Mariners. We also got victories from the Orioles,
the Royals, the Giants, the Cubs and the Rangers. And
there was a fight in your hood last night, Bernie.
Where are you at the party? Did you go see
any of it? Did you celebrate at USC Vegas fifty nine?
I was there. Yeah. I was throwing, I was flipping

(01:44:23):
and rolling. Yeah. Yeah. In the main eventually, I was
on a golf car drinking, drinking, going through the fight exactly.
In the main event, which was the light heavyweight main event,
Jamal's Sweet Dreams Hill, he scored a late t KO
over at Thiago Santos. Back to you, Bernie, all right, thanks,
good job to you too. All right, that time every week.

(01:44:45):
This is a World Cup year and there is no shortage.
I even saw a really cool commercial tonight John Hamm
playing Santa Claus in Miami, and it was all about
the World Cup, which is three months away, be here
before you know it. So it's that time. Let's go
to Christopher A World of Soccer, the greatest school thrilling

(01:45:08):
finishes the international drum. It's all here in this report
from the World of Soccer. That's right. I did see
the John hand commercial too. It's funny. He's not happy
as Santa that the World Cups in the winter, but

(01:45:29):
that's the sacrifices we have to make when you're playing
in cut well, when it's a quatar and it's normally
a hundred and thirty eight degrees, so they had to
move it to November. Go ahead, Chris, it's it's and
they're still probably gonna be water breaks even in December two.
It's gonna be uh interesting. But yeah, no, this was
our first week of Premier League back. There's already some
very interesting storylines. That's a small offer coming up in
a second. I will also want to talk about something

(01:45:51):
else involving television, big American actors and the world of soccer.
But I just want to really quit go around the
Premier League because it's back. We got a you know,
the Crystal Palace kickoff that was on Friday and that
was very fun. I think the big storyline from the
weekend was we had just seen Liverpool off to a
horrendous draw with newly promoted side Fulham and Jurgen Klop

(01:46:14):
not happy with the pitch, the grass over there, saying
it was dry, saying twelve out of ten and like
they were losing up until the final minutes of the game.
It was to one going into like they think the
seventy minute before Mohammed Salah equalized. Sometimes a draw can
still feel like a loss even though you managed to
eke out a point afterwards. And that is definitely how

(01:46:34):
Liverpool has started their year. UH. Coming up today, I
think the big games to watch out for Manchester United
playing Brighton, Hove al and Albion after an unsuccessful season
where they tried to get rid of UH Christiano Ronaldo
and nobody would bought, would bite and still the Frankie
de Youong saga seems to be over as Manchester United

(01:46:54):
seems to be tapped out trying to go for the
Barcelona player and they seem I like their chances this season, Bernie,
but it hasn't been a good start and if they
get off the wrong foot, and with Brighton and Hove Albion,
it's not gonna be friendly, It's not gonna be pretty
for them. This is the early, early Premier League season
is where you can get into a lot of trouble,
especially if you were a manager already on the hot

(01:47:17):
seats now from Manchester United it's a new completely new manager.
That won't be the issue. But first impressions back, first impressions, absolutely, Matt.
But um, I mostly want to spend the world with soccer.
To ask you, Bernie, have you heard of a place
a club called Rexas No, I don't think I have,
and I know and I know my soccer, but I

(01:47:38):
I mean Liverpool by the way places Crystal Palace a
week from Monday. That will be a fantastic game. I
think Crystal Palace. They didn't get the result they wanted
on Friday, they did take lost to nothing, but I
feel like they're a club on the rise along with
I mean we. We did also see from the weekend
Nottingham Palace, newly promoted playing the newly Saudi acquired uh
Newcastle United as well. Newcastle won that one to two

(01:48:02):
powers so I think are going to be interesting to watch.
But let's go back to Wrexham. So Wrexham is a
club in Wales. It is in the fifth level of
the English football league system. It's actually in what's called
the National League. That's the fifth tier, fifth tier of soccer.
They've been down there for a very long time. Uh,

(01:48:22):
they've they were in a lot of financial trouble. The
supporters put together a trust and helped to wipe out
the debts of the club, which is incredibly impressive. But
they have some new saviors. They have some new owners
who have come in and to be honest, they don't
have a plan and they tell you themselves. So they
don't have a plan because these two owners are American
actors Ryan Reynolds and Rob mcklehany from It's Always Sunny

(01:48:47):
in Philadelphia and it's part of a new story. Yeah,
I love I love it. It's Always Sunny. It's one
of my favorite shows ever. But this is all part
of this is this is interesting because it's part of
new FX series called Welcome to Wrexhams. It's a docuseries.
You can tell they're probably buying into some of the
feel good that's been kind of popular in this country

(01:49:08):
about soccer when it comes to you know, Ted Lasso
with a fictional Richmond a FC. But I think that
they bought Wrexham and they've kind of said like, look,
they don't really have much of a plan, but it's
clear that they have the investment. It's in the fifth
side of a of of English soccer over there and
they are though committed to making plans to get more

(01:49:29):
involved with the community. For those who don't know, when
it comes to local, very local soccer in the United Kingdom,
there is a window where games cannot be shown on TV.
I think it's like around three PM. I could be wrong,
but the ideas like no games are shown on TV,
no matches are shown on TV, whatsoever. You are supposed
to go out and go to your local club in

(01:49:50):
those hours. So it keeps a lot of these clubs
like Wrexham alive. But even still we're talking about fifth level,
bottom of the dregs, like almost semi professional at this point.
And here comes to American actors who want to buy
your club and also wanted to see how far they
can go, and it's turning into a TV it's a
little self serving. But I saw this gesture this week
from Ryan Reynolds, which I thought was a fantastic gesture.

(01:50:12):
It's the reason I'm bringing up the show because I'm
definitely gonna be checking out the show. I'm really interested
to seats where these guys go. But there was a
Wrexham business owner. This is a this is a town,
you know, Wrexham is a town in Wales. Uh. Who
This man, Rob Clark runs a local uh, a local
movie store in a in the Wrexham Butcher's Market and

(01:50:35):
he just got suddenly approached out of the blue by
Ryan Reynolds who was like, hey, do you want a
bunch of Blu rays and DVDs? He just approached them
on social media out of the blue and Rob was
I was saying, like, apparently Rob Clark then got a
package of over a hundred hundred physical copies of videos

(01:50:57):
sent to him. It's a massive surprise ship and it's
also now going to appear in the Welcome to Wrexham series.
So just acts of generosity across the Wrexham. Reynolds and
mclehanny at least very well know that when it comes
to this level of soccer, soccer is about the community.
Soccer is about not just a big club and a

(01:51:18):
big international brand and how much money you're making. You
are a community good and it's good to see that
Ryan Reynolds, even though these guys have have no real
ties at all two whales itself, that they are going
to make themselves part of the community. I'm hoping they
make themselves part of the community, because it would be
an insanely good story for a club like Wrexham, for

(01:51:40):
guys just swoop in and become part of something that
is bigger than any one person. Well, the you know,
the concept of celebrities owning football clubs is not new
at all. I mean notmous Natalie Portman is an owner,
Lebron James is part owner of Liverpool, Matthew McConaughey, Elton,
John Kate Upton and I think Patrick Mahomes might even

(01:52:05):
be part owner of a team. Yeah, and I know
there's a lot of a lot of them are getting
those part of their investment portfolios. But like what Ryan
Reynolds and mclehanny are doing, they're not going in there
to turn up the valuation of Wrexham. They're just trying
to turn them into a more respectable clus. I think
they're just socker Fansom me. Will Ferrell owns part of
l a f C, who we've talked about a lot

(01:52:26):
on this show. Yeah, it's it's it's a really good gesture.
I'm really excited to check out the series. I know
the trailer came out a couple of weeks ago, but
I just I had to get around this story because
see them doing good in Wales, in the local community
is something that kind of warmed my heart that it's like,
all right, they actually care about the community here and
they want to be part of the understand community at

(01:52:47):
the end of the day, is the heart and soul
of the world's game. It's why so many people come
out all across the world to their local clubs, who
they aren't the biggest clubs in the world, but they
come out there because they're part of something bigger. They're
part of something that just ties everyone together. No pattern.
I mean, I've I've I've seen the Houston Dynamo play
in their own you know, James Harden and Oscar dealer

(01:53:08):
hole or part owners. So not just Premier League, not
just international soccer soccer, but even here Stateside. So there
you have the alright, good stuff coming up. We wrap
up the show and I give my final thoughts on
Vince Scully. Uh, he's loved it when he said, oh hi, everybody,
in a very pleasant, good evening to you wherever you

(01:53:29):
may be. Boy, Vince Gully can't see enough about him.
We'll wrap up the show. I'll give my final thoughts
about the great Vince Scully. I'm Bernie Freddo, coming you
live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep
it locked. You're listening to Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio.
Hull right back on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio.
I'm Bernie Freddo, coming you live from the Las Vegas

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Fox Sports Radio Studios. For go any further. I want
to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles, Monty
Belanos on the updates, Chris Perfett and Bo Benson, uh
manning the fort from our Los Angeles compound, turning all
the dials, keeping us glued together. They've been with me
since eleven pm Pacific time on Saturday night. All right. Uh,

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We've spent a fair amount of time tonight talking about
Vince Gully. And I would just like to say this that, uh,
if you heard Vince Scully's voice anywhere, at any time,
and I know most of the folks that have given tributes,
certainly on these airwaves and around the country and everywhere,
uh we're not from Southern California, didn't grow up listening

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to him. It doesn't matter if you heard Vince Scully's
voice anywhere anytime you had a ticket to broadcast Paradise.
But if you grew up in southern California like I did,
he had a front row seat. There's no way to
do justice in the final minutes of the show as
to all of the things Vince Gully did. But it
all started when he was a senior in high s school,

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sitting with his classmate at Fordham Prep, a baseball teammate
out in the name of Larry Megans. They were sitting
around talking in school auditorium. They asked each other what
they wanted a dream, what they dreamed they would be
when they grew up. Megan said, Vinny, I want to
be a Major League ball player, and vin of course
told Larry he wanted to be a sports announcer. He
had since he was eight years old. Fast forward eight

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years later, May fifty two, Larry Miggans, vin Scully's friend,
baseball teammate at Fordham Prep, was now playing for the St.
Louis Browns and he plays against the Los Angeles Dodgers
at Abbot's Field. Hits a home run that day, the
first of only two career herald runs he hit the
Major Leagues. On the call you guessed it, Vin Scully,

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imagine that they came full circle. Scully later said Coote
it was a it's close to breaking down doing a
baseball game or any other sporting event I've ever experienced,
I think, later admitted he did shed it tier. By
the way, not for nothing, Larry Miggans. He's still with us.
He turns on August. He's the fourth oldest living Major

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League And by the way, what if I told you
in night when the Brooklyn Dodgers moved to Los Angeles, CAMPC,
the flagship station for Dodger Baseball, wasn't sure that they
wanted Vince Gully to be their announcer. Can you imagine
that Peter O'Malley of course stepped in and the rest

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is history. But can you imagine the Dodgers coming west
without Vince Scully By that point point, he'd already been
an announcer for eight years, took over when Ernie Harwell
left in nine two, when when Harwell moved on to
the New York Giants to work with Russ Hodges, and
of course he uh Finney takes over, and prior to

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that he'd worked at the he worked at the feet
of Red Barber. Uh. Yes, nineteen October. I left early.
I was there. I had a hundred dollar bet on
the Oakland A's and figure we had it done. And uh,
Dennis Suckers leavest taking them ount a car and right
field you see the break latch. That was probably me.
But I wasn't mad because when Gibby hit the home

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run and I lost the bet, I said, well, at
least I didn't have to sit in the stadium and
see that now starting to beat the traffic. And later on,
obviously I realized that not only that I hear the
most iconic call, one of the most iconic calls in
the history of baseball, maybe even in certainly in Dodger history,
but I heard it live while it was happening in
the Dodgers parking lot. Wow. I met Vin back. Terry Bales,

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my college professor, introduced me. I told you the story earlier.
I looked at Vinnie and said something, lay. I'm like, man,
you must be must be so cool, you must love
baseball more than anything else. And he says, well, you
give me a Sunday day and afternoon at the ballpark
and a pretty girl by my side, and you can
have the sunny day or check that and you can
have the sunny day in the afternoon at the ballpark.

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He was funny, he was glib. I tried to meet
Vinnie twenty two years later when he came through Detroit
two thousand three. By now I'm a full fledged member
of the media. Vin did not make the trip. It
was the only time I ever got to meet him.
One final thing and one little loan fact. Scully lost
out to Pat summer All in a trial at CBS
to call NFL games alongside John Madden. But they threw

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him a bone. They gave him one last game January
eighty two, is a sendoff and end up being the
Dwight Clark catch game. Yep, that was Vinny. He went
on to become an icon. And there you have it,
Vince Gully. There'll never be another Vince Gully again. All
I can say is we'll close it out like Vince
Gully used to open every one of his broadcasts. Well,
hi everybody, and a very pleasant good evening to you

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wherever you may be. I'm Bernie Fratto. This is Fox
Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Good evening,