Up On Game: Hour 2 – Deshaun Watson

LaVar, Plaxico, and TJ enjoy a Legendary Moment with former Rams RB Steven Jackson, talk about Deshaun Watson’s (preseason) debut with the Cleveland Browns, the QB battle in Pittsburgh, and Roquan Smith’s trade request from Chicago.

 

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of our affiliates out there that support us and allow
us to be on the airwaves with you. Okay, let's
jump into this. Uh Steven Jackson, Fellas, how much you
all know about Big Steve? Uh? To me, I mean,
Steve Jackson was a freight train of of a physical specimen.
We're talking about the running back. I mean, it's funny.

(02:43):
I tried to get some some interesting quotes out of
them on on t J, knowing that you know, they're
both Beavers, um, and he just talked about you know,
he had nothing. Well, I'll let him tell you, but
I'll tell you what. You're older than he. You're older
than Steve. I left as he was coming in. What's
what was your Yeah? What? What? What was your opinion

(03:07):
of Steven Jackson as as an Oregon State Beaver? Like,
what what do you think of him? Steven Jackson one
of the best running backs at that time in pack
ten history in the history. Yeah, he had grown man business,
big and fast, I mean big and fast out of Vegas.
I mean he's a military guy. They moved to to
Vegas when when when I think, I believe his family

(03:28):
is from Arkansas originally, but he ended up playing at
school called El Dorado in Vegas. And I would have
never thought, you know, up until recent years where you
start to hear about Bishop Gorman. I don't know of
any other programs really out of Vegas. But it was
interesting that one of our our in his era of time,

(03:50):
that was one of the best backs, not only in college,
I was one of the best backs in the league.
And he was a very dominant figure in the St.
Louis And they got Marshall Falk. He man, listen, Stephen Jackson,
punish you bro trying to dance around you. He would
if he if he needed to, but he wanted to
run you over. He was named to three Pro Bowls.

(04:12):
He was the second team All Pro twice in his career.
I mean, it's a very consecutive thousand yards. It's a
very very accomplished career that that he had. And I
made the point, I said, does it is it interesting
to you, you're almost he almost represents the ai of
of the NFL. And in terms of came in you

(04:34):
see what the old style of running back looks like
and what their look is. And Marshall foulk very buttoned up,
very traditional type of movement with him and then hair
comes a dreadlock right all the tats. You know what
I mean. He's big, he's strong, he had the visor
and I mean he was like you hadn't seen anything

(04:56):
like that. The other big back that you saw side
of like the bus, I mean big back looking like
that was Eddie George. There wasn't I mean you didn't
you know that he's not he's tall. I mean you're

(05:17):
talking Steven six three, six four, like, yes, every bit
of it. Stephen Jackson six three and like yoked up
big Fred Taylor sneaky but six two six two six three.

(05:37):
Well I guess so I always say Fred Taylor is
the most deceptively big dude because of how quick and
how fast he was as a player. Um, this was
stave Stephen Jackson, but he was different because he came
with that new look. Like now you see a guy
it's the name. Give me a difference between him and

(05:57):
Derrick Henry right like big dude yoked up like that
drat tats grown man in the out of the backfield.
There's still an anomaly about the big back and and
Stephen Jackson was one of those guys. Without further ado,
let's jump into our legendary moment. GA Game presents conversations

(06:23):
with a Legen and now this is your legendary moment.
You grew to popularity really quickly coming into the league
and you were on that that I want to say
that the last of the Mohicans before it went bad
kind of sort of for St. Louis and they ended
up leaving. So what was that like for you? Being

(06:45):
not like you took over the mantel, like what's gonna
be easy to do it with Marshall folk being the
guy he was, and you know Arlen was up in
the mix out a point in time. But what what
was that like for you? He was you know, everything
you said was it was an upward battle, upward hill
battle because you know, you have two times officer an

(07:05):
MVP and Marshall and some of the other things he
able to accomplish while he was still there. He was
still there being you know, uh and here I come.
I'm not clean cut. You know, I had these long hair,
uh tattoos, So I looked the polar opposite of what
they've grown to uh love. And for me to come
in and challenge that, it wasn't going to be easy.

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And it wasn't. You know. They had their opinions on me,
and what I did know and what was always drilled
was driven in me from high school, was to be
reflected on this. I was a hard work It was
why I got this. I got a chance to escape.
So regardless of how beat writers wrote about me or
how fans felt about this new this new kid trying
to take their favorite player's job, I knew that if

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I continue to just consistently work hard and me just
show up, they eventually get to see the other side
of me. And that's eventually what I just did, you know,
and it it almost made made even more sense becau
blue collar people are that way. You know, my work
athy reflected what their life really is. Yeah, it made
more It made their guard come down, and it made me,

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I guess, seem more process. I'm a rat with this.
I'm a rat with this. But going into Oregon State
is there anything on t J. Hushman's OUTA, I have nothing,
don't have nothing behind nothing. He's a good brother. He
went on further to say some very very very flattering things.

(08:31):
I felt like he was lying because you know, I
know t J. Hushmans Atta. But you can hear the
whole whole interview at at up on Game Presents conversations
with allegend uh, Stephen Jackson, Mad's Matt respect. You know.
The one thing that in the journey of doing these
interviews with with all of our legends, which Plexico still

(08:51):
has yet to do the interview, which would be it
will be interesting. Um. T J has been a part
of it. And and just the one thing that I've
always taken away is I'm super proud of how we
represent ourselves. You know. It's one thing that like, you know,
we'll talk about Deshaun Watson um coming out of the

(09:12):
next break in moments. In fact, we'll we'll touch on
that situation. I keep saying touch on will we'll weigh
in on that situation. Uh. But for the most part,
people don't realize how how well we represent ourselves. And
sometimes I feel like it goes without saying, but maybe
it should be mentioned that you'll see somebody and you'll

(09:35):
think one thing about them, or you see the way
that they played, or you'll see the way you know.
There might be an interview during the course of time
where you know you're talking and and and it doesn't
you know, necessarily comes from a fiery passionate maybe disappointed,
you know, feeling you know, let down place or whatever.
And people judge us based upon what they expect us

(09:56):
to be, how they expect us to speak, how they
expect us to have had no things super articulate. Stephen
Jackson is super super intelligent. Um, he has an academy
that that actually is for barber Like it's a barber
school academy that he's opened up. And and it's like

(10:17):
it's a school, you know, right, No, no, no, I
don't believe he has He don't have dress no more.
Yes he does. He's he's starting to grow them back,
growing back. But but a dude that he's real close
with that he grew up with. Um, they wanted to
open up a shop, open up a store, open up
a school where they could train, you know, young people,

(10:40):
give them a trade, create opportunities for them. And and
it was through you know, barber Barbership, I should call
it um just amazing. He started his own clothing line, Originals. Yeah, yeah,
so so I just I'm super proud of what he
what he is as as a civilian, as someone who's

(11:01):
outside of the game. But it just ultimately, for me,
it's just always really really cool to talk to us
as legends and and here our stories and and get
a sounding board of of how it went when they
played and how things are going now. But anyway, it's
it's just like I have good moments, and he's somebody

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I was a big fan of when he was playing.
He was coming out so and it was like kind
of like, really the first time I had decided to
start watching Oregon State football, because up until then it
was just kind of like, who like the Beaver's, Like,
I'm not, I'm not gonna watch a team that hadn't
watched before that because we finished. I'm not. I'm not,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna watch a team that's

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that has a a mascot that's the Beaver, like the Beavers.
And I went in college football long but I finished
hiring you. Wow, I thought I'm gonna say right long.
Oh yeah, they always want to take shots at one thing.

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Steve Jackson said, it was the amount of school pride
that that t J had for Oregon State. So now
that I know that it's true and it's confirmed, I'm
gonna go even harder on the Oregon State Beavers. You
know the beavers. Uh, speaking of the beavers, We're gonna
take a quick break, you know what I mean. So
you might want to take a you know, a little

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bite out of your your your your breakfast burrito, or
you know, you might want might want to have some
of them steaking eggs with some of them home fries
next to it, a little bit of hot sauce maybe
from catch up on it, you know, take some some bites,
some nibbles. We're gonna take a quick break. And on
the other side, we're gonna talk about Deshaun Watson. Oh,

(12:48):
he played, he touched the field. I guess every single
time that I'm talking about d Watts, I gotta figure
out a different way of approaching the topic of conversation, because, yeah,
I get it. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll
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the show. Is up on game. It's been an interesting
show so far. Let's let's jump right into this next
topic of conversation. Uh, I know, I tell you on
d what Uh yeah, let's stay with it. Let's stay

(14:15):
with it. So Deshaun Watson played I think a lot
of people debated would the NFL pressure for a decision
to be made on his his situation, his his his
new punishment, or at least what the punishment the NFL
is is seeking. It did not come down in time enough.

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There was nothing said to keep him off the field.
So DeShawn Watson got onto the field and played. They
won the game twenty four thirteen over to Jacksonville Jaguars. Uh.
He threw the ball five times, completed one for seven yards.
But the most interest thing takeaway from from the game,

(15:02):
at least for for me, was the audio of the
hecklers that were there saying you sick explicit um. And
that was the chance that they were saying when they
were close enough for for Deshaun Watson to to hear them.
I mean, I guess that would have been the chair

(15:23):
or chant that it seemed to catch on amongst the
fans and and was was put chanted towards him. I mean,
we said that this was going to be the case, right,
He's gonna have to deal with the type of of
scrutiny and heckling and and uh, you know, aggressiveness coming

(15:45):
towards him the same way that Mike Vick did when
he came back from from his his situation. Um, I
don't know. I'm not I'm not comparing them in terms of,
you know, severity of situation that that's for interpretation to
any of you you're out there or you know what,
whoever is weighing in on it. But I will say

(16:08):
this is one of those deals where I'm curious too
will he be able to perform and handle the amount
of weight that comes with the way he's going to
be approached every single time he comes into an arena
and has to play. And for what it's worth, we

(16:28):
talked so much about mental health and emotional stability. I
can't even imagine what he has to deal with on
a daily basis in terms of when somebody sees him
and recognizes him, you know, not even talking about the footballs.
This is going to be something that he's going to
have to deal with and be able to digest from
a mental standpoint. Um, you know, he's gonna have to

(16:52):
have like quote unquote armadillo skin to basically, you know,
be able to block this out and to be able
to go on the football field and perform. And unfortunately
for him, he plays a position in the quarterback that
is so glaring to every mistake that he makes it's
going to be over generalized, and it's gonna be it's

(17:14):
gonna be tough for him to play through, no doubt
about it. And every arena, maybe even at home, that
he steps into play people are not in favor of
everything that has happened to him over the past couple
of years and the things that he's done. And from
a personal standpoint, if I can give him something advice,
there's there's nothing further to speak about, like, let the

(17:37):
people have their opinion, don't give them any thing to,
you know, to compound what you've done. Let them have
their own opinion about you. And it's time to move forward.
He sat out last year and you know, uh, he
says that, you know, he's sorry. There's no need to

(17:58):
further explain yourself and to give you know, condolescence to
whoever you may have impacted, and it's time to play
football and it's time to put it the rest. I
know that he just said that he's willing to accept
the eight game suspension and to be able to be fine.
I don't know how many millions it is and move on,

(18:21):
But for him, it's going to be tough to move
on mentally. But he's gonna have to be able to
do it, and he's gonna have to play at a
high level, and I wish him the best of luck. Um,
I've been through situations where you have to come back
from adversity and just you know, some time for us,
the football field can be our sanctuary and and and
and and that's our healing ground and and I think

(18:43):
that's what he's going to have to do on the
football field to be to be able to put everything
to the side and say, you don't know what, I'm
just gonna focus in him and put the blinders on,
and I'm gonna go out and perform and play football
no matter what anybody says. Everything that the shot on
Watson we'll do will be over analyzed and scrutinize that.

(19:05):
That's just the situation that he's in. If he's not
a mentally tough individual, it's gonna eat him up. It's
gonna eat him up because every game that he plays
in he's gonna get that. That's what he's gonna get.
The best thing that he can do is play well

(19:27):
and try to ignore the noise when they ask you
about your situation. I've already commented on that I'm not
going you know, I'm not doing it any longer because
the more it has brought up, the more he has
to think about it. But it's mental toughness, um and
his ability to But we're human beings, bro, We're human beings.

(19:49):
Nobody wants to be disliked. I don't care who you are.
You can play the villain. You really don't want to
be the villain. Nobody wants to be disliked. Now, I
don't care if people don't like me, but I'm like, damn,
but I'm not trying for it. When when you go
into a game and they they're scrutinized you when they

(20:11):
cursing you out, Yeah it's because you're on the opposing team,
but for you it has more meaning when you're Deshaun Watson.
So he's gonna have to block that out and if
he can do that and play well, because if he
plays well, eventually that noise will stop and then they
will shut up that that that will stop. But he's
gonna have to play well, but he's gonna have to

(20:32):
be mentally tough as he travels down that road. That
was gonna be my next question. Uh. One name that
came to mind was ray Lewis. I mean if you
would have thought that from where he was at at
the super Bowl in Atlanta. But it's just like the
scrutiny in the instant news of today so different than

(20:56):
what it was like. But he did play himself out
of the you know, the feelings some people just aren't
ever going like because they felt they thought, if it's
not on TV, it's on Twitter, it's on instantra, it's
on tiktokrack. Then it was TV and on on on

(21:18):
the internet. Now it's everything, and so it's just completely
different to me. He he can't even get on social
media to shann wants you know, how any messages do
get that is disrespectful. He can't even get on it.
He probably gets death threats, not just disrespect he probably
I know for me right like old retired dude we

(21:38):
get into a scuffle at a seven on seven tournament
and my son is getting death threats. Like that's how
That's how crazy the information of things pops off and
how quickly it gets distributed. And today's today. Yes see,
I can't go so I can't even imagine. You can't.
You can to find what you can't find find them

(22:00):
because they used as cowards that that in fact they
were calling up they called my parents house, whoever, whoever,
who whoever these people were, they looked up my parents
are old school. They life is that boring where they
do all the calling up my parents and said where

(22:20):
is he talking about me? Will take his life and yours?
It ain't nothing to us like over over something that
took place and the seven on seven ties people are crazy, man,
So I just wonder how how crazy is the scrutiny
or how crazy is the approach of of of this?

(22:40):
And can he can he outplay it? Do you guys
think he can outplay He has the talent to do it.
But mentally do we know do we know the type
of person Deshaun Watson is when this type of adversity,
this is a different type of adversity it is we

(23:01):
don't know like this, We love this magnitude because people's
opinion of him, if it matters, it's gonna eat him up.
If other people opinion matter, it's gonna eat them. Think
about just you know, just being like, how are you
going to do that? How are you going? You got

(23:23):
to have a secure detail all kinds cause you're not
safe if he like us, you go if I go
out with my family and somebody say something, you would
they called in the police, straight up and down. I'm
not going for I'm not going for That's a horrible
position to be in because you're going to end up.
I'm not going for that. I ain't going for that.

(23:44):
But then, but then now your life is altered, right
like it impacts as a job, and it's always the
ones that said that it's going to be the one time,
Like there's the one time, all right, you let it go,
the one time you let it go. This time I
didn't let it go. But then now you're altered by
and there's still going to be people every single time.
Deshaun Watson. I get, I get being a fan and

(24:07):
and trolling people, but you can cross the line. And
if you can't, crossing the line is coming into somebody's
personal space and talking crazy to them. Is gonna have
to have security. That security gonna costs him a thousand
dollars each time you go out. It's well worth it,

(24:29):
it's well worked it. If you want to go out
in public, you gotta have security. And I'm sure he's
smart enough to do it. I mean, you can't run
away from your actions, your entire life, you know what
I mean, Like, you can't run away like he's got
to walk through airports, he's gonna have a fly private.
I mean, you can't run away your entire libar. He's
express remorse, he's done that. All he can do is

(24:53):
continue to try to be a better person and people
will see that and eventually this will start to go away.
So you do think it could start to go away? Yes?
I mean O J. Simpson can walk crying. If O J.
Simpson can walk around and move around, I mean, and
I feel like anybody else should be able to walk

(25:14):
around and move around, right, I mean he got a point.
I mean O J. B posting like, you know, having
opinions like if it were me in that situation, Like
we know if you're in that, we know you the
coldest gangster of them all, Like we we know this.
I just don't. I'm sad man. You know, ultimately, man, listen,

(25:35):
he's gonna have to play well, bottom line, and mentally,
you know he's going to be tested. His character is
going to be tested, and uh, you know he's going
to go through some some tough stretchers and people are
not going to be saying good things to him, and
he's gonna have to you know, white white those comments

(25:55):
off and stay focusing. It's gonna be a challenge for him.
I know. Is is one thing to take heckling when
it's like you suck you suck, Hey, you you're a
bitch warmer. You can't play like. That's one thing. But
I was taking up when you're taking a swipe at me,
and I know it's not football related here in the

(26:17):
game though, I didn't hear the talking, didn't until that
did until after the players after Like he's in his
cadence and stuff going on, he don't hear. He's not
hearing that. And beyond that, when he's on the bench

(26:37):
and he's sitting there bro so that that's gonna when
he's on the bench, and that's the way. That's when
it's the worst. People hold up though, Well, they start
doing what the NBA is doing, disrespect, they're gonna get
rid of you gotta go. They start doing that, they're
gonna shut their mouths. Be interesting. They start doing what

(26:57):
the NBA is doing because it only your product. You
don't want your product. Summer so much a guy could take.
You keep going and going and going. Eventually somebody gonna
gonna turn around, Peters, Peter, what you want to do
if it turns into that, you gotta go so once.

(27:22):
I wonder where they prep I wonder where they prep
them fans before they sit down. Like, if you have
the team, you will be removed from start getting removed.
It's gonna let everybody know. Okay, if I was Deshaun Watson,
I would buy every single ticket that was near me.
On on that can't do that. I'm filling it all

(27:45):
with Deshaun Watson lovers. All right, let's go to ten
roles for a row. All right, let's go highlowing crowding
for trending. Go to hallo, guys, if anybody messes with you,
any trolls mess with any of you, three, we're gonna

(28:08):
call you. Let me know. Yeah, we will call llow.
I'll take care you have special special special skills. Yea, yeah,
I like that, great verbal dexterity, special skills across the board.
Just yeah, I'll take care of Let's take care of
what's trending. The New York Post reporting today the Jets

(28:29):
quarterback Zach Wilson gonna miss two to four weeks with
a bone bruise and a meniscus here. He will need
to have a procedure done on his meniscus, but it's
gonna need a trim and not a full repair again.
According to the New York Post, bad news out of
Cleveland fellas Cleveland Brown's head coach Kevin Stefanski just announced
that the Browns starting center Nick Harris is likely going
to need season ending knee surgery. Yeah, he was better

(28:52):
go resign you no money. The injury occurred in last
night's preseason opener at Jack's. Big Nick get a chance
to start? Boy? What what let it get? So many
of those downers news right now? In the opening games
of the preseason, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson speaking to reporters
a short time ago and said that Week one of

(29:14):
the regular season is going to be the cut off
for the current round of negotiations to extend his contract. Now,
we have two games going on as we speak to
Carolina Panthers with a tend nothing lead at Washington with
one o two left to play in the first quarter,
opening drive presiding over it, Baker Mayfield and he led
Carolina to a field goal. He completed four out of

(29:36):
seven passes for forty five yards. Then Sam Donald went
out there for a series, completed both passes he attempted
for sixteen yards, including an eight yard touchdown pass to
Richard Higgins. The Kansas City Chiefs a seven fair competition.
When you throw seven balls and not throw two, that
ain't fair. Well, Donald still probably gonna play another series,

(29:58):
I I guess to kind of balance things out. At
Soldier Field. The Kansas City Chiefs as seven nothing lead
at Chicago, thirty five seconds left to play in the
first Wait a minute, Why in the world is Patrick
Mahomes playing today? Well, I guess because he can do
something like this second down to go for the Chiefs
at the five. The cannon in there. Now they fake
to him. They run a tight end screen writes high

(30:19):
touchdown Kansas City the belldozer on the right side tight
end screen. He has yet to have a regular season
touchdown in his career of eight years, but now he
has a preseason touchdown and a postseason touchdown. The bell
dozer Blake Bell with a touchdown reception. Mahomes six out

(30:39):
of seven four sixty yards, including that five yard touchdown
past the venerable Mitch Holt is the call on w
D A F. Mahomes Day is done. Chad Henny in
there at quarterback now for Kansas City Fellows. Back to you.
Appreciate Hill, Appreciate you, my guy. All right? Uh, Cherbiski
was named the starter. What y'alls what y'alls take? I mean,

(31:02):
what what does this mean for the Pittsburgh Steelers that
your Bhisky wins the starting job? I mean, I have
a I'm just wow, You're shocked. I am that I
have so much on my mind about this decision. This,
you know, does nothing. There's nothing that mental to Biscuit

(31:24):
has shown me. Um over the last two years. You know,
let me backtrack. He hasn't played in two years to
show he's been a backup to Josh Allen last year.
Over the past two years, last year, nothing has clean up, dude,
that has shown me that he can actually deliver the
deliver the football to the spaces that he needs to

(31:47):
deliver the football. And I don't think that the Pittsburgh
Stealers and Mike Tomlin brought him in to be the starter.
And I don't know who I'm getting to be the starter.
I'm thinking that Mason Rudolph is going to be the starter. Listen,
I don't if Ifski is the best option for the

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Pittsburgh Still is to be the starting quarterback, then they
have a long way to go. If Mason Rudolph for
the last two or four years, I think Mitchell Tobinsky
and market the quarterback in the NFL. Rudolph every good

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doesn't matter. He's been in the system for the past
for I think that Mike Tomlin and it's still has
bought Mitchell Tobiski and to be the insurance program is
ready to go, right. I didn't think that they didn't
think that he would be named the starter, But I
also believe that that Mike Tomlin has named him the starter.
Mike Thoman dost things like this to push Mason Rudolph

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to be the starter opening day. You know what you're
getting with Mason Rudolf, what you get with Mitchell Drobiski.
He's a better quarterback than Mason Rudolf. I don't believe so, Hey, Chicago,
Massive Rudolf is not an accurate quarterback. He took the

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Bears blake. The Bears went to the Whiskey is not
a shot quarterback. Are you're gonna put in the backfield
to throw the ball forty times of games went to
the playoffs. We're going to hide him with in the
running game, rollout left, rollout right, play action to the
running back. He is not going to stand in the
pocket and read defenses and throw the football accurately and consistently.

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For man, he's led a team to the playoffs. He's
led a team he's gonna be talking is not Chicago.
They ain't go to the playoffs last year? Who pits Purger? Well,
what does that mean? We're talking about mr mrs starting
quarterback and he led a team, the Chicago Bears, to

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the playoffs as a starter. That Mason Rudolph got popped
upside of his head by by uh Miles Garrett. That
that year he played, they played a whole lot of football.
How well did he do when he was in the game.
I don't believe he'll be the start on opening Day.
I just don't. I just don't see Mason Rudolph is

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your starter. I can I can honestly say, you say,
Mr Bisky, I'm like, I'm intrigued. There's a possibility something
good do you as far as quarterback, this is not hot. Listen,
this is a thing seeing what Mason Rudolph can do
when the system doesn't play the two years. They want

(34:51):
to see why you keep saying two years his game
is bisky was just when he's been a backup. He Josh,
he cannot. Man, y'all must know somebody don't screwed off
in some tracks not and he's not a good quarterball Listen,

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quarterback period point, they draft Kenny Pickett, you gotta start
Trabinsky because it's easier to bench the veteran than it
is to bench the first round rookie. You've seen what
Mason Rudolph can do in your system. You want to
see what Mitchell Trobisky can do in your system. That's

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all they play. You can't walk in the room on
Mason Rudolph's I'm just room Mason Ruter having been in
the system for the past four or five years and
watching the way that Rufflisberger has played the position and
knowing and understanding the offense that he is a better option.

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You know what you're getting from Mason Rudolf. At this point,
you do what are you What are you getting? You
don't know, and that's to me, that's more valuable than
putting in Mason Rudolf, who is giving you absolutely no
reason to think that he should be that that's what
I just said, has led his team to the playoffs.
Why do you keep saying that because it's a fact.

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You're acting like he ain't even take a team to
the playoffs. He's not a good quarterback. Plexo. He threw
with touchdowns seven touchdowns? What does Mason Rudolf ever done?
Was that? Two touchdowns a game? That? All right? He
thought one of how you throw one and a half

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touchdowns a game? How do you throw one point five
eight team in the national for the playoffs? Come on, man,
he led a team. If you don't throw thirty touchdowns
in a season as a quarterback, there's something wrong. Hey,
Mason Rudolf, one of the half touchdails again half from

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two thousand nineteen one has a total career high of
two thousand, three hundred sixty Hey, we're gonna go take
a plug to go, don't you? Two thousand and sixty
six yards. It is high season over three seasons. That's
Rudolf's career. He been, He's been a start. He hasn't bag.

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I wish I could see Plexico. We're gonna take a break.
We're gonna day, We're gonna take a break, and we're
gonna We're gonna said Mitchell was Aaron Rodgerson Brady, but
he can get it done, all right, man, real Kwan
Smith trade demands. Uh, we'll talk about that on the

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other side of this break. I'm ill go take a walk.
I gotta get away from Plexico for two minutes. Bad.
Uh you're listening up on Gay Well, we'll be right
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Up on Game again. If you missed anything, make sure
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(38:18):
out up on Game Presents. Got some dope content on
there as well. Uh, if you missed it, you know
there was the discussion of well, shoo, Kareem Hunt get
a bigger contract? Why does John Harball win so much
in the preseason, Tom Brady leaving uh for some personal
matters that had already been agreed upon. We had a

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legendary moment with running back Rams, legendary running back Stephen Jackson.
Uh Trabiski that was a spirited conversation uh named starter
in Pittsburgh, and of course the heckling of Deshaun Watson fellas.
The last conversation before we wrap it up and turn
things over is the roque On Smith trade demands he

(39:02):
does not want to be a Chicago Bear. Um. The
coach comes out and had some interesting comments about it,
you know, almost basically like blaming it on ro Kuan.
Ro Kuan isn't on pup list anymore. He's not here,
so if you want to ask him any questions about
why he's not here, you need to go ask him
to me. I thought it was poor leadership on on

(39:24):
the coach's behalf. I thought it actually establishes the fact
that if you can act that way towards ro Kwan
Smith and in his situation, who is an esteemed player
for your team, an elite player for your team? How
how would the other players feel knowing that a coach
came out and had these things to say? How? How

(39:46):
how impactful can that be? Guys? Real quick in terms
of terrible by the head coach. He knows it's terrible.
He should say I want all the players to make
what they can Hopefully we come to an agreement. He
didn't say that. Man. Nobody's gonna respect this dude, especially
when they start losing. Dude, like you roll with your
players and they're gonna roll with you as soon as

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they hit adversity. Nobody's rolling with him. Brand day Ball,
get real quantsm with on the phone, and we will
take Kareem Hunt in New York. We'll take them both
MB to trade him dumb. He's a very good player
taking for them anymore. So we'll see what happens. Plaques,

(40:29):
the GM just spoikes come to the Big City. Baby.
There you go. Well for t J. Hushmon's out of
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