September 5, 2022 • 41 mins
Doug Gottlieb and TJ Houshmandzadeh filling in for Dan. Doug and TJ talk about the wild finish in the LSU-Florida State game Sunday night. Doug asks the question: would you go to the Rose Bowl in record heat to watch your team play Bowling Green. Senior Writer for Sports Illustrated Pat Forde joins the guys to break down what happened in week one of college football. Doug and TJ discuss the Cowboys and their issues on offense going into the season.
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Welcome in Satan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio with TJ.
Hushmans out. I'm Doug Gottlieb. Happy Labor Day to you.
We have a lot planned for you again. We're filling
in myself. TJ. Housman's out of Doug gott Leave The
Dan Patrick's Show. Hopefully we can give you guys a
great show. And we're just gonna get this going right
now and talk the Los Angeles Rams this Thursday night
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against the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford defended Super
Bowl champ going against who many perceive or expect to
be this year's champion of Buffalo Bills. This is the
kickoff once we get this game. Yeah, NFL Sunday every
single weekend. I hear you, I hear you. But but
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the thing that's interesting to me is you watch this
weekend obviously, and it preps you and you get into
football season, you get in the football watching mode. Um,
But I don't know you like um to me, like
I get super excited. I do think that you forget
how the difference in the college and the pro until
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you see next week. Right, Like I watch that Florida
State LSU game last night right where um, I mean
LSU loses the game on a muff punt, but then
Florida State fumbles on the one yard line and then
Florida State comes Uh? Was that LSU comes down to
scores and then miss is an extra point? Not not
that errors don't happen in the in the NFL games,
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not that there's not a misque or a missed extra
point or whatever, but the level of play, it's interesting.
Like I do feel like because we're so happy football's back,
the level of play this weekend wasn't very good, but
we'll give it a pass because we're happy football's back.
You know what I mean? You know what that game
last night between the LSU. I watched pretty much every
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snap of that game. I've trained quite a few guys
that played for Florida State I know some guys that
played for LSU. Obviously my daughters attend LSU. That that
game was defensively, LSU couldn't get off the field on
third downs. I believe Florida State win eleven and seventeen
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man quarterback for Florida State. Dude looked very, very he
was impressive. But the thing is, I was a part
returner and I've dropped punts. And I said this to
a buddy of mine's last I've dropped punts. Some elite
neighbors like I've been in those situations in the National
Football League. When you drop a punt that next point,
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every part return or can attest it. This that next
punt that's in air, you like, don't drop it. Don't
drop That's what you're thinking. As the punt's in the
air and he's playing in a dome, it's no wind.
Don't drop it. Don't drop it, don't drop it. When
you're a young kid like that, as a coach, you
have to know your player. Just replace him, just replace him.
As that punt was going in there, I was saying
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to the people that are at my house, he should
just let it drop. Don't catch this ball. Just let
it drop and then he drops it and then on
the pat You're always taught protect the inside out. You
know how many times I hurt that in special teams,
meaning from Darren special teams called Cincinnati. Protect inside, protect inside,
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protect inside. They get beat on the inside. And I'm
not gonna call him out who it was because he's
a kid, but you gotta reinforce that in that situation,
make sure you protect inside. These kids don't learn from it.
They gave us a hell of a football game, but
LSU has to get better. Great job to state. They
did a hell of a job in that game offensively
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and defensively. Right, there's a couple of things I'll take
away from that. But here's here's one that I think.
I think it's going to be an interesting watch, and
it happened last year with Oklahoma and Spencer Ratler. Now, look,
Oklahoma is a big time college football state and the
University of Oklahoma is obviously a gigantic college wall program.
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So there's always been a lot of I don't know, discussion,
you know about quarterback who should play, and you know
there's grumbling when grumblings when when they do have occasionally
a quarterback who doesn't play well. But the way that
Spencer Ratler I felt like was handled last year, A
good portion of it is because he was making money
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because he's I think, and you tell me if I'm wrong, DJ,
But people view it's like you said, hey, I don't
want to call the kid out. I don't want to
call the kid out. I do think the way in
which we view college football, not maybe the Mountain me
and you as much, but I do think kind of
the cabin average fan looks at it differently. Now they
look at him as professionals. It's different, like, hey man,
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you get paid to make that catch. Like, no, I don't.
I'm a college get like no, no, no, you get
paid to make that catch. But it's I mean, look
amazing insight to think of what it's like to be
a punt return. I mean, I've we've all thought of
what that's like to see the ball coming our way.
But I'm I'm just telling you. I feel like they'll
be there will always now be people who watch college
football differently, their expectations, their reactions. There'll be a lot
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more negativity towards some of the players because hey man,
you're getting paid to mate to that play. Now. This
is not just a freebee system and that and that's okay,
even if you weren't getting paid, you should make that play.
When you're playing at the highest level of college football.
Number one, the player expects to make that play. As fans.
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I mean, I'll watch a game now and I'll draw
plenty of balls, and I'll watch a game now when
somebody drops the ball, I'm like, damn me catch the ball.
You We're not trying to drop it. It happens. And
so for me, I say this, Spencer Ratler is getting paid,
so what, so what, he's one of the chosen few
that can. So what if you're mad at it, you
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should have tried to bean Spencer Ratler. No, no no, no,
I don't think anybody's mad at it. I think and
you're taking us. I'm saying that that people that fans again,
that's always gonna even if they're not getting paid, they're
gonna find any excuse to be rate you or talk
about you if you're not playing well. Right it is.
It's a different energy towards it. Though. There's the percentage
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of people that go man and he's just a kid.
That just happens, right, happens, and I've been twenty years old.
Last thing you're thinking of is what you're supposed to
do and can you screw it up? Right? Job? Just
it's just the change in college football, which has not
yet really hit right because we don't have the super
conferences yet, but we have seen the change in the NIL,
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but the change in college football, which is kind kind
of coming. I would say that some of the energy
towards players when they don't play well, or when they
transfer out, or when they're benched, or when or when
they make a mistake is different. Now, it's not different
for everybody. And I also think that, look, the percentage
of its different now that that sports betting is more
and more legal, right because look, dude, when there's money
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on the line, and again, all of these things have
always occurred TG. I'm not saying guys haven't always gotten paid.
They have. I'm not saying people haven't always bet on
college football. They have, of course, But when it's above
board and when everybody knows what's going on and people
are talking about the lines, it's a little it's just different.
And I do think at times, the energy towards watching
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a college sporting event is different, by the way, for
people who missed the game, here's the final call. So again,
basically a succession of events is LSU finally gets to stop.
They had no offense until late in the game, finally
gets to stop. Then they muff a punt at you know,
it's like their own, I don't know, five yard line,
and then Florida State's going into score fumbles at the
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one yard line. LSU rutches all goes all the way
down the field, and then they scored. There's a lot
on the last play, right they ran on a bound
one second ago. Like literally, I mean it's a very
average game, a very poorly played, defensive minded game, right
where look clunky. All of a sudden, there's crazy succession
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of events. So LSU scores. All they gotta do is
kick the extra point, go to overtime. And here's the
call from the Florida State radio network. Oh I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. I thought I thought we thought we had
that cut all right. Anyway, I mean it was a
that's one of those if you're watching, you're like, this
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is the craziest thing ever. That game was. It was
a really good game. A lot of things need to
be cleaned up. I mean you, Florida State, Like I said,
quarterback played well, but in that situation, that third down,
Please explain to me Water doing a tall sweep. Why
are you doing a tall sweep? Hand the ball off?
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Why are you doing a tall sweep unless you scores
with no time left on the clock. You had already
had a punt blocked earlier. I mean a punt, a
field goal blocked earlier. Understand that as a coach and say, okay,
let me remind my players protect the inside. Do not
give up the inside. Were always thought that they blocked
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the punt or field goal, they're gonna come inside, protect
the inside. They didn't protect the inside, and the field
goal was blocked. Florida State made the play when they
needed to make it. LS you new head coach, new
coaching staff, new quarterback transfers in from Arizona State, and
it was tough. Ka sewn Booty preseason All American, one
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of the best receivers in the country. You get frustrated
when you get as many targets as you get last
year and then you come into this season you don't
get your first catch until the fourth quarter. I'm telling
these coaches. When you're a receiver, you feel like you're
not part of the game if you're not giving me
the ball. Just let me touch the ball in the
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first quarter on a bubble screen, a hitch something. The
fourth quarter. I'm supposed to be the best offensive weapon
we have and I don't get a catch till the
fourth quarter. Just little things like that. In the coach
hassen off. You want the players involved in the game,
get them going early. When you do that, they're gonna
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play hard. And yeah, you should play hard anyway, that's
just not how it works. Man. You gotta get you
gotta get digit look early in the game. Get them going.
It's just like quarterbacks, right, you gotta get him a
rhythm throat again, same thing, same same thing. Due the
LSU quarterback, if I'm not mistaken, had thirty seven yards
passing in the first half. Like, what are they doing?
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This is high level college football. I know it's the
first game. I know it's a new team, but when
you're playing at that level, you must be better. But
football every weekend, I'm looking forward to what I love it.
I love his time of the year. All right, all right,
coming up next. This is just a question. Okay, cut
up next. It's just a question, Um, what would it take?
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What would it take to get you to go to
the Rose Bowl two days ago in one hundred degree heat? Okay,
that's that's the question. TJ. Hushman's and I'm dog Gotli.
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We're in Fox Sport Radio with t J. Hush Benzada,
I'm Doug Gottlieb Toby. Are getting ready for a great
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Labor Day. It's always interesting that we celebrate Labor Day
by not laboring, but grill will be hot. There's still
more college football to come, and of course we are
three sleeps away from the NFL season, so so TJ. Look,
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people in this tweet, actually I had kind of people
in crazy when I tried to explain. Look, I've I
actually have a ton of experience with UCLA football as
my brothers and alum. My sister was a cheerleader for
three years and on the dance squad for a year.
So during those four years, and then in the subsequent
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years after I've been to a ton of football games
at the Rose Bowl. Her first game ever cheerleader Like
this is kind of we're dating ourselves. They played Oklahoma
and it was similar to this past Saturday where it
was over one hundred degrees and it was so hot.
I'll never forget that. When UCLA scored a touchdown, they
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used to have four male cheerleaders and they would have
a U A c an L A sign and they
would run around the inside of the bowl right on
the grass with the flags when they'd score a touchdown.
And you know, we're sitting in front of where the
cheerleaders are stationed. That's where they give you their tickets,
like at the twenty yard line on UCLA sideline, and
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you look across the field and all of a sudden
you see U LA and one of the male cheerleaders
like passed out, right, He's like running around the field.
He just like passed out. And at the time, it
was really funny. This past weekend, it was crazy hot
in California. Now you get these you get people in
the Midwest and the Southeast and you tell them, a man,
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it's too hot to go to football game and you
get the roll your eyes. Ucla versus A Bowling Green
drew like twenty seven thousand people, But those are twenty
seven thousand sold tickets, sold tickets. I mean it looked
like friends and family over. Here's my question, anybody, why
would you go to UCLA Bowling Green game? It's not
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the Rose Bowl is awesome. There's nothing wrong with the
Rose Bowl, but it's there's very little shade outside of
that coming from the press box. It you cook, you know,
if it's one hundred and two outside, it's one hundred
and twenty in the bowl. Okay, but it's not convenient.
It's not near really where anybody lives or very few
people who live that's a football fan or like UCLA fan.
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It's a beautiful, nice, quaint little town in Pasadena, right, Like,
it's really nice, and it's not close to campus. It's
not close to where a lot of sports fans live.
It's UCLA versus Bowling Green. Like, I actually think, instead
of being critical towards UCLA football fans, you should be
critical towards other people who buy tickets to see terrible
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games in the eat. That's a tough situation to be
in number one. UCLA is on a quarter system. Their
students are not here in town. School hasn't started yet,
So that's first or foremost, the student section part of
it is gonna be slim pickings. Nobody's in school. And
then you factor in the weather. It's not a plus,
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it's gonna be extremely hot. And then you factor in
the opponent also, so it's the weather. The opponent in
school's not in man, they should have thought about that.
But is anybody gonna expect it to be a hundred degrees?
I can't recall the last time it's been a hundred
degrees at least in that area of California. Then you
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get to the valley in the desert, but not not
in Pasadena. Okay, So here's the clay you love. The
thing I love about you is you love football the
way I love ball. Right, And if there's a football game,
there's a football workout, you'd go, right. I just I'm
just for people to understand, like you work with kids,
you are with pros or college guys, but you love ball.
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You love ball? What would it take to get you
to have gone on list past Saturday? Because it was
ridiculously hot? And I understand, like I've lived in Oklahoma,
so it was one of those type of hot a
little bit more human, more human that we're used to,
and like really next level heat in California. What would
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it have taken to get you to go to that
game to sit in the stands and watch UCLA versus
Bowling Green like who decides on a noon kickoff? As well?
It would have had to have been a family member
or a close friend or somebody that I'm really close
with plan on either team, or if they had given
me a sideline pass, I would have gone, I could
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get in a show silent you can't watch remember, like
that's a that's a it's a five hour commitment. At
least I was driving there and getting Huh. I was Saturday. No, No,
I'm saying Friday night. I went to a high school
football game for first time I had gone to a
game in a while. UM enjoyed a good game between
Mission Viajo and Long Beach Polly. But in that in
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that weather, Doug, It's it would have to be somebody
that I'm close with, family member, like I said, a friend,
somebody I've trained. It's hot, it's hot, and no that's
a that's a no thing, and I don't I don't respect,
no disrespect to Bowling Green, but you kind of already
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know the outcome, and so it's like that that that
plays a part in it as well. It's U c
l A Bowling Green, you like, I kind of no
is gonna win his games, probably not gonna be that competitive,
and do I want to sweat it out? And so
that plays a part in it, and I get it.
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I get it. Just hopefully moving forward, it doesn't stay
that way. When you're a college student, you look forward
to these what is it seven weekends that you get
home games. Sure, you look forward to that. That's part
of the experience of being a college student. And so
I foresee that changing in the future. But man, I mean, man,
do you know so their next game is now granted,
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next games at night, but it's five in the I
mean perfect time, it's five at night. They play Alabama State,
But I mean, can you imagine the crowd and then
they play South Alabama and they'll be a better crowd
because people will show up in students will be there
or whatever. But part of it is the schedule, which
which I guess does lead us to Hey, they're gonna
expand this thing. They're gonna be in the Big Ten.
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And you have lots of schools that are sitting there,
you know, organ stating they're going like, look at our
stadium would be full no matter who we play Ucla.
They don't care. Why are they in the Big ten? Oh,
it's just the TV market. This is I do think
that UCLA is going to be a little bit Chargers
like unless they have a couple of great a great
year before that happens, and Chargers like in that that
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stadium will be full when they're in the Big Ten.
But it won't be full with UCLA football fans. It'll
be you know, the siety. If you win, they'll come
out and watch you play. If you put on and
you put a team on the field that's giving you
a reason to want to watch them, they're gonna come
out and play. And that's the thing about when you
play in California. There's just so much to do in
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southern California. There's just so much to do. And so
if the team is doing well, I mean, you look
at what USC just did. That's how you start off
your tenure here at USC and Lincoln, Ronniey that that's
how you started off. You get some excitement, you get
people looking forward to watching you play. And so Ucla
they have a veteran team, the quarterbacks coming back COVID year.
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If I'm not mistaken, yep um DRT or DTR business
his sixth year. He he's a veteran and that's an understatement.
He's been in college football a long time, and so
Ucla should be a p a good team. You know
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what's really weird about this? As as a player, when
you look into the crowd, it's like, oh, man, like
your energy is so different when it's game time, and
then you look in the crowd you're like, oh man,
is it when they coming midway? First quarter? Set quarter?
Were they still not here? So that's a problem that
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they're they're not they're not not coming. Pat Forty joins this.
Of course, he's covered college football for years at College Sports.
You're a senior writer at Sports Illustrated. Pat, I was
trying to describe um to people, like I understand how
you living in Louisville, there's a different a view of
college football, college sports in the heat. But it's like
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I almost think that more of UCLA football fans because
they didn't show up. He's like, why would you go
to UCLA bowling Green when you saw that, When you've
seen those pictures of the UCLA game, what was your
first thought? My first thought was whether that was a
referendum on how UCLA fans feels about going to the
Big Ten. I don't know if it was or if
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it was simply, yeah, you know what, it's hot out
and the stadium's a long ways away and we've got
a million other things to do in California, and no,
we're not going to go. But yeah, whatever the reason,
it's a patent cook. Yeah, I don't. I don't think
it's the Big ten thing. I really don't. The Big Ten.
This is what we're bringing into our conference. Yeah, but
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the Big ten's go oh boy budget. You do have
us LA basketball and and and and banners, Pat forty
joining us All right, Pat, let's um. There's so many
things to get to Ohio State. You know, down at
half finds a way to win, shuts down Notre Dame.
Notre Dame offensively not particularly good, but a much more
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competitive football game then the veggest line would lead you
to believe your biggest takeaway Ohio State Notre Dame. Ohio
State's a tougher team this year. That was a man
basically from Ryan Day. He went out and got a
new defensive coordinator and told him, we need to be tougher,
We need to be more intense, we need to be
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more energetic and play faster on that side of the ball.
And they did offensively. They were able to run the
ball and kill the game in the last quarter when
they needed to. And like Ryan Day was just tickled afterwards.
I was there because they didn't win, you know, with
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a bunch of big, spectacular, chunk passing plays they won
six yards at a time, four yards at a time
and then stop the other team, which you know, quite frankly,
the knock on o'house State was that they were a
soft team last year and this was not a soft
performance by them. So that was the biggest takeaway. Is
Marcus Freeman going to make America really liking root from
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Notre Dame? Like that? Is that going to happen? It
feels like it feels like And look, obviously went to
Notre Dame. I don't have any will towards Notre Dame,
but you know there is Notre Dame loses. It's kind
of like when Duke loses, like people celebrate and I
almost feel like Marcus Freeman is the Zion Waves and
like Zion Wamson was just such a happy kid. You
kind of rooted for Duke and Marcus. It just seems
to be about such the good things. You're just like
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I can kind of find myself rooting for Notre Dame football,
kind of stretching and breaking downto a hives. There is
nothing not likable about Marcus Freeman. I mean, he's he's admirable,
he's respectable, and he's he is he's extremely likable. The
question he's got to do is figure out some second
half adjustments to the adjustments, so to speak. I mean,
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if you go back to the Fiesta Bowl, which look,
that was a fire drill situation he had just taken over,
but they were up twenty eight to seven and got beaten,
got out scored twenty three to seven in the second half,
lost to Oklahoma State. This game, you're up ten to seven,
and probably that was overachieving right there, but still shut
out in the second half. And I think they've they've
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got a long way to go offensively, but they're going
to play very hard for him. He's rooting extremely well
and we'll see if people can still like him in
Notre Dame's winning a bunch of games. But for right now, yeah,
he's easy to root for. What do you make of
Brian Kelly ten years, ninety five million? Offensively? They could
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not move the ball when he's that Notre Dame quarterback.
Didn't play well. He was quick quick to take him out.
Will we see Jane Daniels play this entire season? When
you see Garrett Neusmeyer getting in there. If it continues
to stay this way, good question, t J. I mean,
if it stays this way, they'll have to make a change.
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I mean they were fortunate to score twenty three points.
You know, a lot of very artage came in one
miraculous drive at the end. But before that, yeah, Jade
Daniels was not good. The receiving car was not good.
That was a brutal offensive performance. Their line was horrible.
So they've got a lot to fix there. And there's
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no way at a place like LSU, the most perhaps
impatient fan base in the country. I don't think you
can just sit there and say Yeah, we're just going
to kind of bring this along slowly. They don't they
don't really do that down there, so there will be
an imperative for them to get better. The thing is,
you're you're playing in the SEC West. It's gonna be
hard because there every week, so they're gonna have to
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get better quickly. You know. The thing that I noticed,
guys and um is you know whether Jade Daniels, who
goes from Arizona State where his teammates like helped him pack,
right to LSU, to bow Knicks, who, of course his
dad played Auburn. He started as a freshman Auburn, but
but neither were great at their previous stop. Both lost
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their job at their previous stop and they transfer. And
because you don't have to sit out like I don't,
why are we surprised at the same guy. Yeah, no,
it's a fair question. I can't I can't believe. I
can't believe that bow Knicks is not as good good
as like he. It's like what you see, it'd be
better if you give me a year to work on
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the game. There's rushed the plan right away. No, you're
you're right. The absolutely that especially in bone next I
think Bonnix is who he is. He's just not that
good at quarterback. You know, he can improvise some plays.
He's fairly athletic, you know, but it's not that great
a quarterback that there's a long body of work now
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from the Auburn days and through game one here that
you're gonna get what you get from him. So if
he was the day one starter at Oregon, I think
it says something about where that program is from a
quarterback standpoint. And I think you say the same thing
about Jade Daniels at LSU pat forty nine to three,
twenty nine, twenty six, Oregon loses a Georgia, Utah loses
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the Ford and Utah the top ten team. Where does
the Pac twelfth go? Where do they go? They hope,
like hell, that USC is really good. Otherwise it's it was.
It was a rough start for the teams that are
expected to be at the top. Um. You know, Utah
Florida was a really good game. And perhaps we shoveled
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too much dirt on Florida coming into the season, like,
oh they're rebuilding, don't that much talent, blah blah blah
blah blah. Anthony Richardson is a special talent. Yeah yeah,
and they've got a lot of other, you know, players
who can play. So you know, you go to the
swamp heck of a game, really a very good game.
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Utah always starts the season slowly. Unfortunately. You can't really
avoid that too much in the in if you want
to try to make the college football playoff out of
the pack twelve. But this loss is not necessarily season
ruiner for them for Oregon, Hole and Moli. That was bad.
And that's a team with a veteran offensive line and
some really good players in the front seven defensively and
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they just got steamrolled. Now, maybe that says Georgia can
win it all again, and I think that's possible. But
my goodness, that was a sobering performance by Oregon. Do
you think people watch college football differently with the kids
collecting the type of money they're making in Nio. I
think that's possible. Yeah, yeah, you know. I mean I
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made a point of saying on Twitter after the East
Carolina kicker miss some extra point in the field goal
and they lose by one point in a Carol last
State kickers or college kickers or people too, and then
last night, I found myself repeating that, saying college punt
returners or people too, after the LSU punt returner dropped
two of them, and some of the replies were like,
now these guys are getting money now, and you don't
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really doubt the East Carolina kickers getting any money, and
I'm not sure about the pencil so the LSU punt
returner too. But I think there is a little bit
of a different attitude of like, we don't have to
go so soft on the kids anymore because they're semi professionals.
So you know, that's part of the landscape. You guys
know how this goes you as athletes, and if you
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are in the spot light and you are being compensated
for your efforts, people are going to feel like they
have the right to criticize you. Pat Patty join us
here Doug Gottlieb T J. Husman's in for Dan dan
Z Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Trade. Of course,
Pat forty longtime right now is Sports Illustrated. We haven't
discussed with you since it happened. Since it happened late
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in the week. The expansion of the college fotball playoff,
which I think we all knew was coming, but then
last year it was like a psych not coming right.
So now it's what's been announced is again and it's
going to depend on what the conferences look like. But
twelve teams in top four seeds get a buy six
top conference champions. Okay, well we'll qualify automatically. Just you know,
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what do you think of the format? Well, first of all,
let's just say you had another PR triumph five of
college football playoff. People. You have this great news, and
it's big news, and people have been waiting for this,
and it somehow comes out at four pm on Friday
of Labor Day weekend going into the first week of Friday.
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It's the kind of thing you put out, Yeah, when
your programs immersed in scandal, not when you have good news.
But that's that's what we've been dealing with for years. Um.
The secondly, yeah, I mean I think it's great. I
think it's going to be really good. I think it's
it's it's good for the overall health of the sport,
for people in the a SEC, in the Big twelve,
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in the PAC twelve who have been getting squeezed to
the side by the giants in the in the Big
ten and in the SEC. It's good for the group
of five. It's gonna be great to have playoff games
on campuses. The thing that I still think is a
glaring weakness in it is quarterfinals at full sights as
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opposed to having quarterfinals on campuses too, you know. And
I think I do think you're gonna get to a
point where like Alabama and George are gonna be like, hey,
we want to host a game. We don't want to
go to Texas to play our quarterfinal. We want to
host that quarterfinal in our stadium. So maybe they will
eventually iron that out. But on the whole, look, it's
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a great thing. And it is ridiculous that it took
fifteen months too, look long for it to happen, but
it's happening. It took one hundred years or to happen. Yeah,
Like there's one hundred years, one hundred years to make it.
It's it's almost like universal healthcare what happens. Like, Look,
I get it's not the greatest that there's there's flaws
to it, but man is a long there's a long
slog to get here to a play like we had
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dual national champions in this century. We had two teams
that got to claim a national championship twenty years ago.
That's that. That's crazy to anyone else but the college
froobody like, yeah, that did happen. That's that we used
to do that. We always did it that way, so
we have to always continue to do it. Well, Look,
the bull thing, the bull things is because you're playing
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to so many masters, right, you have like you can't
destroy all the bulls, even though he destroyed most of
the bulls. And then but you say, that's why you
have to have those quarterfinal games otherwise those polls go
away and there's just you know, too much money tied
into those the cities. I guess. So, but how do
you as a fan think about if you're a fan though,
if you if you go to a conference like you
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go to so you go to a conference championship game?
Right now? Do you go to the conference because then
the next week you have you might play, if you win,
you might not play, you might have a buy it
just does at some point you get fans that travel
so well, it'll become a TV only sport. Because I
get that. We all think like everybody's just got money
to spend week after week after week. But at some
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point in college town you're like, hey man, I had
to shell out all this money in donation for the
season tickets, then for the conference championship game. Then I
had to decide, all right, do I wait till the
semifinals the finals? Do I go? Right? I want to
go to the first one. I do think there will
be and then the other. The other interesting part, Pad
is you know some of those teams can play sixteen games.
That's a lot. That's a lot of football, and some
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of those bodies, yeah, potentially even right seventeen, I think
if you get into that first round and go all
the way. But you know, and you're one hundred percent
correct about just squeezing the fans dollars and time as
much as you can. But that's another reason I have
quarterfinals at home, you know what, playing half the fans
and say all right, we'll just drive down the road
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to Tuscaloosa from Birmingham or whatever the case may be,
and it's not going to cost as much. Pat, great stuff.
Can't wait to read your next piece. Thanks so much
for joining us in the Dan Patrick's Show. Hey my pleasure, guys.
Thank you all right. Coming up next, we are three
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and he'll join us from our Oklahoma State star quarterback,
first round pick of the Browns. He'll he'll join us
next hour. TJ. You've seen this video of the is
J Stewart were work? This is called the Freefall Tower, right?
Or is that is that the actual name? Or is
that what people are calling it? M I've seen it
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called a free fall tower or a drop tower. Both
of them are or literal in this video. Oh yah,
so it's in it's in India. It's addie either. It
looks like a theme park. Doesn't look like like one
of those pop up up you know. I don't know
if do they have carneys in India. I have no idea.
There feels like a lot of jokes. I could get
me in a lot of trouble with the carneys in
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India type of deal. Um. But but here's what I
saw is it's one of those towers where everybody sits
on top of like it's like a platform. You're like
stacked up, and then it rises to the top, you know,
and I don't know, what do you think? Five six seven,
who knows how many stories? Spins around and then drops down,
only to stop right before it gets to the bottom. Right,
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we know what those those are like. Well, this one
did not stop and it hits it hits the base
of it and people obviously, and it's now this It
says no one died and at least ten people were injured.
First of all, thankfully nobody died. It's crazy because when
you when you see it, You're like, oh, there had
to be this is how can I watch this video?
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This is somebody dying. Nobody died. That's why I don't
get all rides dug just because of that. I don't ride,
don't anymore. This is hard for me because so my
son and I we started a tradition last year and
we're going to try and keep it going. Is Russia
Shunna right, Jewish New Year? It's not a day of
that's not a day of sorrow. It's day you're not
supposed to so you can do everything you got to do.
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In the morning, we went to Six Flags Road to
every ride except for two, every roller coaster except for two,
and the only reason we left before riding two of
them was because he had to get to tackle football practice,
which was like, you know, two to two and a half,
three hours away, and we didn't want to be late.
This year, no such problem. We're going. But I genuinely
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people ask like, would you a skydive? Would I won't
skydive a one bungee because if that's one of those
if one thing goes wrong, you die. I don't feel
that's the case at like a six Flags. But now
I'm I'm I'm second. Guess I can't decide whether I'm second.
Can pay me to skydive you couldn't. There's no amount
of money that you could pay me to Scottive, have
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no desire. I used to always get on a ride
and it was years ago, as a teenager, got on
a ride the Magic Mountain that's six Flags, and it
stopped and I'm like, what's going We set up there
for like twenty minutes. I'm like, oh, I'm done, Ryan
Ryan's but my kids ride them, so it just it's unfortunate.
I'm not even gonna send this to my kids because
it's fae scarm But man, I feel for those people
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that thing just it goes down, they're probably like, man,
we're going down. I'm pretty fast and then boom, that's
that's top five nightmare. And then did you read the
operators that were operating it? They in the movie you
know you don't messed up? Right? They ran, They took
off running read the article. They ran because they knew
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they messed up. So I don't even believe it malfunctioned.
I believe the humans malfunctioned. They ran. They didn't even
stay there to see if everybody was okay, they got
up out of there because they knew they made a mistake.
I just I'm I mean, I can't believe nobody will
you can? You can just Google search this video and
you're sitting there going, oh my god. I mean, the
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fact that nobody died is a is a miracle, an
absolute miracle. And then the way it's reported j STU
where it's like, uh uh, at least ten people are injured.
You're like, that's it injured? Like how is that? That
video is harrowing? That video is I saw an updated
report where it says at least sixteen women and children
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were injured. Yeah, I don't I don't understand the women
and children reporting. This is not like a hostage situation, right,
like just anybody being hurt don't have to be a
woman and a child being hurt is a bad is
a bad thing. It's like, well the women and children like, yeah,
it's a theme park, but so so TJ. If you
go to if your kids go to the Magic Mountain, right,
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they ride with each other and you just sit there
and watch. I just sit down when I dude, we
go to the Orange County Fair. I just sit there
and watch them. We go to the fair every year.
I just sit there and watching. I'm trying to come
my son. He not trying to get on the scary rides.
He wants no part of Him'm like, ahead and try it,
bro like, just get on it. You gotta get on
and see what he's like. No, no, no, I'm pushing
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him to do it. I gotta do. You want to
do it yourself? You want to hold his hand? Na? Na, no, no,
I'm done with that. I'm done with it. I mean
I did it when I was younger, and so I
want him to get that experience. But right now he
don't want the experience. And so after seeing that, I
see why he doesn't want the experience. And so I'm
gonna leave him alone. When it comes to that, he'll
ride his rise that he feels comfortable with. My oldest
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daughter don't matter to her, she getting on any and
everything like that ride right there, should have got on
that shit. For her, It does not matter. She is
not afraid to get on any right. She's an adventurous
so she she's gonna give it a go. No. I mean,
like my my dude, my son is like that. He's
he's thirteen. But what's what's interesting is so I took
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him to Magic Mountain with him and like what his
best friends and I remember, and it was it was
like only maybe four weeks after my knee surgery last
year's side town it. So I did I think I
a wore brace that day or whatever? Maybe I didn't
wear a brace anyway, I remember the first ride we
were on. I remember getting up and you get to
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the top of him, and it goes like, why did
I do Why did I subject myself to this? Like
I don't actually think I like this, you know, and
then you get through the first run, You're like, Okay,
that's good. I kind of like that that pit of
your stomach feeling, and you know, then it kind of
gets good to you. But there was definitely a moment
during that ride and maybe the first couple where I'm like,
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I'm not really sure why I signed up for this.
I mean, I'd like seeing my son's smile, but not
that much because I'm a softy. It's the heights thing
that that does me in. All right, we'll turn it
back to football coming up next. What can we legitimately
expect from the Cowboys with the injured and mangled mess
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that is their offense. We'll discuss upcoming next with TGM
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against the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford defended Super
Bowl champ going against who many perceive or expect to
be this year's champion of Buffalo Bills. This is the
kickoff once we get this game. Yeah, NFL Sunday every
single weekend. I hear you, I hear you. But but
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the thing that's interesting to me is you watch this
weekend obviously, and it preps you and you get into
football season, you get in the football watching mode. Um,
But I don't know you like um to me, like
I get super excited. I do think that you forget
how the difference in the college and the pro until
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you see next week. Right, Like I watch that Florida
State LSU game last night right where um, I mean
LSU loses the game on a muff punt, but then
Florida State fumbles on the one yard line and then
Florida State comes Uh? Was that LSU comes down to
scores and then miss is an extra point? Not not
that errors don't happen in the in the NFL games,
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not that there's not a misque or a missed extra
point or whatever, but the level of play, it's interesting.
Like I do feel like because we're so happy football's back,
the level of play this weekend wasn't very good, but
we'll give it a pass because we're happy football's back.
You know what I mean? You know what that game
last night between the LSU. I watched pretty much every
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snap of that game. I've trained quite a few guys
that played for Florida State I know some guys that
played for LSU. Obviously my daughters attend LSU. That that
game was defensively, LSU couldn't get off the field on
third downs. I believe Florida State win eleven and seventeen
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man quarterback for Florida State. Dude looked very, very he
was impressive. But the thing is, I was a part
returner and I've dropped punts. And I said this to
a buddy of mine's last I've dropped punts. Some elite
neighbors like I've been in those situations in the National
Football League. When you drop a punt that next point,
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every part return or can attest it. This that next
punt that's in air, you like, don't drop it. Don't
drop That's what you're thinking. As the punt's in the
air and he's playing in a dome, it's no wind.
Don't drop it. Don't drop it, don't drop it. When
you're a young kid like that, as a coach, you
have to know your player. Just replace him, just replace him.
As that punt was going in there, I was saying
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to the people that are at my house, he should
just let it drop. Don't catch this ball. Just let
it drop and then he drops it and then on
the pat You're always taught protect the inside out. You
know how many times I hurt that in special teams,
meaning from Darren special teams called Cincinnati. Protect inside, protect inside,
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protect inside. They get beat on the inside. And I'm
not gonna call him out who it was because he's
a kid, but you gotta reinforce that in that situation,
make sure you protect inside. These kids don't learn from it.
They gave us a hell of a football game, but
LSU has to get better. Great job to state. They
did a hell of a job in that game offensively
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and defensively. Right, there's a couple of things I'll take
away from that. But here's here's one that I think.
I think it's going to be an interesting watch, and
it happened last year with Oklahoma and Spencer Ratler. Now, look,
Oklahoma is a big time college football state and the
University of Oklahoma is obviously a gigantic college wall program.
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So there's always been a lot of I don't know, discussion,
you know about quarterback who should play, and you know
there's grumbling when grumblings when when they do have occasionally
a quarterback who doesn't play well. But the way that
Spencer Ratler I felt like was handled last year, A
good portion of it is because he was making money
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because he's I think, and you tell me if I'm wrong, DJ,
But people view it's like you said, hey, I don't
want to call the kid out. I don't want to
call the kid out. I do think the way in
which we view college football, not maybe the Mountain me
and you as much, but I do think kind of
the cabin average fan looks at it differently. Now they
look at him as professionals. It's different, like, hey man,
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you get paid to make that catch. Like, no, I don't.
I'm a college get like no, no, no, you get
paid to make that catch. But it's I mean, look
amazing insight to think of what it's like to be
a punt return. I mean, I've we've all thought of
what that's like to see the ball coming our way.
But I'm I'm just telling you. I feel like they'll
be there will always now be people who watch college
football differently, their expectations, their reactions. There'll be a lot
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more negativity towards some of the players because hey man,
you're getting paid to mate to that play. Now. This
is not just a freebee system and that and that's okay,
even if you weren't getting paid, you should make that play.
When you're playing at the highest level of college football.
Number one, the player expects to make that play. As fans.
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I mean, I'll watch a game now and I'll draw
plenty of balls, and I'll watch a game now when
somebody drops the ball, I'm like, damn me catch the ball.
You We're not trying to drop it. It happens. And
so for me, I say this, Spencer Ratler is getting paid,
so what, so what, he's one of the chosen few
that can. So what if you're mad at it, you
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should have tried to bean Spencer Ratler. No, no no, no,
I don't think anybody's mad at it. I think and
you're taking us. I'm saying that that people that fans again,
that's always gonna even if they're not getting paid, they're
gonna find any excuse to be rate you or talk
about you if you're not playing well. Right it is.
It's a different energy towards it. Though. There's the percentage
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of people that go man and he's just a kid.
That just happens, right, happens, and I've been twenty years old.
Last thing you're thinking of is what you're supposed to
do and can you screw it up? Right? Job? Just
it's just the change in college football, which has not
yet really hit right because we don't have the super
conferences yet, but we have seen the change in the NIL,
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but the change in college football, which is kind kind
of coming. I would say that some of the energy
towards players when they don't play well, or when they
transfer out, or when they're benched, or when or when
they make a mistake is different. Now, it's not different
for everybody. And I also think that, look, the percentage
of its different now that that sports betting is more
and more legal, right because look, dude, when there's money
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on the line, and again, all of these things have
always occurred TG. I'm not saying guys haven't always gotten paid.
They have. I'm not saying people haven't always bet on
college football. They have, of course, But when it's above
board and when everybody knows what's going on and people
are talking about the lines, it's a little it's just different.
And I do think at times, the energy towards watching
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a college sporting event is different, by the way, for
people who missed the game, here's the final call. So again,
basically a succession of events is LSU finally gets to stop.
They had no offense until late in the game, finally
gets to stop. Then they muff a punt at you know,
it's like their own, I don't know, five yard line,
and then Florida State's going into score fumbles at the
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one yard line. LSU rutches all goes all the way
down the field, and then they scored. There's a lot
on the last play, right they ran on a bound
one second ago. Like literally, I mean it's a very
average game, a very poorly played, defensive minded game, right
where look clunky. All of a sudden, there's crazy succession
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of events. So LSU scores. All they gotta do is
kick the extra point, go to overtime. And here's the
call from the Florida State radio network. Oh I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. I thought I thought we thought we had
that cut all right. Anyway, I mean it was a
that's one of those if you're watching, you're like, this
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is the craziest thing ever. That game was. It was
a really good game. A lot of things need to
be cleaned up. I mean you, Florida State, Like I said,
quarterback played well, but in that situation, that third down,
Please explain to me Water doing a tall sweep. Why
are you doing a tall sweep? Hand the ball off?
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Why are you doing a tall sweep unless you scores
with no time left on the clock. You had already
had a punt blocked earlier. I mean a punt, a
field goal blocked earlier. Understand that as a coach and say, okay,
let me remind my players protect the inside. Do not
give up the inside. Were always thought that they blocked
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the punt or field goal, they're gonna come inside, protect
the inside. They didn't protect the inside, and the field
goal was blocked. Florida State made the play when they
needed to make it. LS you new head coach, new
coaching staff, new quarterback transfers in from Arizona State, and
it was tough. Ka sewn Booty preseason All American, one
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of the best receivers in the country. You get frustrated
when you get as many targets as you get last
year and then you come into this season you don't
get your first catch until the fourth quarter. I'm telling
these coaches. When you're a receiver, you feel like you're
not part of the game if you're not giving me
the ball. Just let me touch the ball in the
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first quarter on a bubble screen, a hitch something. The
fourth quarter. I'm supposed to be the best offensive weapon
we have and I don't get a catch till the
fourth quarter. Just little things like that. In the coach
hassen off. You want the players involved in the game,
get them going early. When you do that, they're gonna
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play hard. And yeah, you should play hard anyway, that's
just not how it works. Man. You gotta get you
gotta get digit look early in the game. Get them going.
It's just like quarterbacks, right, you gotta get him a
rhythm throat again, same thing, same same thing. Due the
LSU quarterback, if I'm not mistaken, had thirty seven yards
passing in the first half. Like, what are they doing?
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This is high level college football. I know it's the
first game. I know it's a new team, but when
you're playing at that level, you must be better. But
football every weekend, I'm looking forward to what I love it.
I love his time of the year. All right, all right,
coming up next. This is just a question. Okay, cut
up next. It's just a question, Um, what would it take?
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What would it take to get you to go to
the Rose Bowl two days ago in one hundred degree heat? Okay,
that's that's the question. TJ. Hushman's and I'm dog Gotli.
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Labor Day. It's always interesting that we celebrate Labor Day
by not laboring, but grill will be hot. There's still
more college football to come, and of course we are
three sleeps away from the NFL season, so so TJ. Look,
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people in this tweet, actually I had kind of people
in crazy when I tried to explain. Look, I've I
actually have a ton of experience with UCLA football as
my brothers and alum. My sister was a cheerleader for
three years and on the dance squad for a year.
So during those four years, and then in the subsequent
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years after I've been to a ton of football games
at the Rose Bowl. Her first game ever cheerleader Like
this is kind of we're dating ourselves. They played Oklahoma
and it was similar to this past Saturday where it
was over one hundred degrees and it was so hot.
I'll never forget that. When UCLA scored a touchdown, they
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used to have four male cheerleaders and they would have
a U A c an L A sign and they
would run around the inside of the bowl right on
the grass with the flags when they'd score a touchdown.
And you know, we're sitting in front of where the
cheerleaders are stationed. That's where they give you their tickets,
like at the twenty yard line on UCLA sideline, and
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you look across the field and all of a sudden
you see U LA and one of the male cheerleaders
like passed out, right, He's like running around the field.
He just like passed out. And at the time, it
was really funny. This past weekend, it was crazy hot
in California. Now you get these you get people in
the Midwest and the Southeast and you tell them, a man,
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it's too hot to go to football game and you
get the roll your eyes. Ucla versus A Bowling Green
drew like twenty seven thousand people, But those are twenty
seven thousand sold tickets, sold tickets. I mean it looked
like friends and family over. Here's my question, anybody, why
would you go to UCLA Bowling Green game? It's not
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the Rose Bowl is awesome. There's nothing wrong with the
Rose Bowl, but it's there's very little shade outside of
that coming from the press box. It you cook, you know,
if it's one hundred and two outside, it's one hundred
and twenty in the bowl. Okay, but it's not convenient.
It's not near really where anybody lives or very few
people who live that's a football fan or like UCLA fan.
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It's a beautiful, nice, quaint little town in Pasadena, right, Like,
it's really nice, and it's not close to campus. It's
not close to where a lot of sports fans live.
It's UCLA versus Bowling Green. Like, I actually think, instead
of being critical towards UCLA football fans, you should be
critical towards other people who buy tickets to see terrible
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games in the eat. That's a tough situation to be
in number one. UCLA is on a quarter system. Their
students are not here in town. School hasn't started yet,
So that's first or foremost, the student section part of
it is gonna be slim pickings. Nobody's in school. And
then you factor in the weather. It's not a plus,
(15:18):
it's gonna be extremely hot. And then you factor in
the opponent also, so it's the weather. The opponent in
school's not in man, they should have thought about that.
But is anybody gonna expect it to be a hundred degrees?
I can't recall the last time it's been a hundred
degrees at least in that area of California. Then you
(15:40):
get to the valley in the desert, but not not
in Pasadena. Okay, So here's the clay you love. The
thing I love about you is you love football the
way I love ball. Right, And if there's a football game,
there's a football workout, you'd go, right. I just I'm
just for people to understand, like you work with kids,
you are with pros or college guys, but you love ball.
(16:02):
You love ball? What would it take to get you
to have gone on list past Saturday? Because it was
ridiculously hot? And I understand, like I've lived in Oklahoma,
so it was one of those type of hot a
little bit more human, more human that we're used to,
and like really next level heat in California. What would
(16:24):
it have taken to get you to go to that
game to sit in the stands and watch UCLA versus
Bowling Green like who decides on a noon kickoff? As well?
It would have had to have been a family member
or a close friend or somebody that I'm really close
with plan on either team, or if they had given
me a sideline pass, I would have gone, I could
(16:45):
get in a show silent you can't watch remember, like
that's a that's a it's a five hour commitment. At
least I was driving there and getting Huh. I was Saturday. No, No,
I'm saying Friday night. I went to a high school
football game for first time I had gone to a
game in a while. UM enjoyed a good game between
Mission Viajo and Long Beach Polly. But in that in
(17:06):
that weather, Doug, It's it would have to be somebody
that I'm close with, family member, like I said, a friend,
somebody I've trained. It's hot, it's hot, and no that's
a that's a no thing, and I don't I don't respect,
no disrespect to Bowling Green, but you kind of already
(17:30):
know the outcome, and so it's like that that that
plays a part in it as well. It's U c
l A Bowling Green, you like, I kind of no
is gonna win his games, probably not gonna be that competitive,
and do I want to sweat it out? And so
that plays a part in it, and I get it.
(17:52):
I get it. Just hopefully moving forward, it doesn't stay
that way. When you're a college student, you look forward
to these what is it seven weekends that you get
home games. Sure, you look forward to that. That's part
of the experience of being a college student. And so
I foresee that changing in the future. But man, I mean, man,
do you know so their next game is now granted,
(18:15):
next games at night, but it's five in the I
mean perfect time, it's five at night. They play Alabama State,
But I mean, can you imagine the crowd and then
they play South Alabama and they'll be a better crowd
because people will show up in students will be there
or whatever. But part of it is the schedule, which
which I guess does lead us to Hey, they're gonna
expand this thing. They're gonna be in the Big Ten.
(18:35):
And you have lots of schools that are sitting there,
you know, organ stating they're going like, look at our
stadium would be full no matter who we play Ucla.
They don't care. Why are they in the Big ten? Oh,
it's just the TV market. This is I do think
that UCLA is going to be a little bit Chargers
like unless they have a couple of great a great
year before that happens, and Chargers like in that that
(18:57):
stadium will be full when they're in the Big Ten.
But it won't be full with UCLA football fans. It'll
be you know, the siety. If you win, they'll come
out and watch you play. If you put on and
you put a team on the field that's giving you
a reason to want to watch them, they're gonna come
out and play. And that's the thing about when you
play in California. There's just so much to do in
(19:20):
southern California. There's just so much to do. And so
if the team is doing well, I mean, you look
at what USC just did. That's how you start off
your tenure here at USC and Lincoln, Ronniey that that's
how you started off. You get some excitement, you get
people looking forward to watching you play. And so Ucla
they have a veteran team, the quarterbacks coming back COVID year.
(19:40):
If I'm not mistaken, yep um DRT or DTR business
his sixth year. He he's a veteran and that's an understatement.
He's been in college football a long time, and so
Ucla should be a p a good team. You know
(20:01):
what's really weird about this? As as a player, when
you look into the crowd, it's like, oh, man, like
your energy is so different when it's game time, and
then you look in the crowd you're like, oh man,
is it when they coming midway? First quarter? Set quarter?
Were they still not here? So that's a problem that
(20:24):
they're they're not they're not not coming. Pat Forty joins this.
Of course, he's covered college football for years at College Sports.
You're a senior writer at Sports Illustrated. Pat, I was
trying to describe um to people, like I understand how
you living in Louisville, there's a different a view of
college football, college sports in the heat. But it's like
(20:47):
I almost think that more of UCLA football fans because
they didn't show up. He's like, why would you go
to UCLA bowling Green when you saw that, When you've
seen those pictures of the UCLA game, what was your
first thought? My first thought was whether that was a
referendum on how UCLA fans feels about going to the
Big Ten. I don't know if it was or if
(21:07):
it was simply, yeah, you know what, it's hot out
and the stadium's a long ways away and we've got
a million other things to do in California, and no,
we're not going to go. But yeah, whatever the reason,
it's a patent cook. Yeah, I don't. I don't think
it's the Big ten thing. I really don't. The Big Ten.
This is what we're bringing into our conference. Yeah, but
(21:27):
the Big ten's go oh boy budget. You do have
us LA basketball and and and and banners, Pat forty
joining us All right, Pat, let's um. There's so many
things to get to Ohio State. You know, down at
half finds a way to win, shuts down Notre Dame.
Notre Dame offensively not particularly good, but a much more
(21:48):
competitive football game then the veggest line would lead you
to believe your biggest takeaway Ohio State Notre Dame. Ohio
State's a tougher team this year. That was a man
basically from Ryan Day. He went out and got a
new defensive coordinator and told him, we need to be tougher,
We need to be more intense, we need to be
(22:08):
more energetic and play faster on that side of the ball.
And they did offensively. They were able to run the
ball and kill the game in the last quarter when
they needed to. And like Ryan Day was just tickled afterwards.
I was there because they didn't win, you know, with
(22:29):
a bunch of big, spectacular, chunk passing plays they won
six yards at a time, four yards at a time
and then stop the other team, which you know, quite frankly,
the knock on o'house State was that they were a
soft team last year and this was not a soft
performance by them. So that was the biggest takeaway. Is
Marcus Freeman going to make America really liking root from
(22:51):
Notre Dame? Like that? Is that going to happen? It
feels like it feels like And look, obviously went to
Notre Dame. I don't have any will towards Notre Dame,
but you know there is Notre Dame loses. It's kind
of like when Duke loses, like people celebrate and I
almost feel like Marcus Freeman is the Zion Waves and
like Zion Wamson was just such a happy kid. You
kind of rooted for Duke and Marcus. It just seems
to be about such the good things. You're just like
(23:12):
I can kind of find myself rooting for Notre Dame football,
kind of stretching and breaking downto a hives. There is
nothing not likable about Marcus Freeman. I mean, he's he's admirable,
he's respectable, and he's he is he's extremely likable. The
question he's got to do is figure out some second
half adjustments to the adjustments, so to speak. I mean,
(23:33):
if you go back to the Fiesta Bowl, which look,
that was a fire drill situation he had just taken over,
but they were up twenty eight to seven and got beaten,
got out scored twenty three to seven in the second half,
lost to Oklahoma State. This game, you're up ten to seven,
and probably that was overachieving right there, but still shut
out in the second half. And I think they've they've
(23:54):
got a long way to go offensively, but they're going
to play very hard for him. He's rooting extremely well
and we'll see if people can still like him in
Notre Dame's winning a bunch of games. But for right now, yeah,
he's easy to root for. What do you make of
Brian Kelly ten years, ninety five million? Offensively? They could
(24:15):
not move the ball when he's that Notre Dame quarterback.
Didn't play well. He was quick quick to take him out.
Will we see Jane Daniels play this entire season? When
you see Garrett Neusmeyer getting in there. If it continues
to stay this way, good question, t J. I mean,
if it stays this way, they'll have to make a change.
(24:36):
I mean they were fortunate to score twenty three points.
You know, a lot of very artage came in one
miraculous drive at the end. But before that, yeah, Jade
Daniels was not good. The receiving car was not good.
That was a brutal offensive performance. Their line was horrible.
So they've got a lot to fix there. And there's
(24:59):
no way at a place like LSU, the most perhaps
impatient fan base in the country. I don't think you
can just sit there and say Yeah, we're just going
to kind of bring this along slowly. They don't they
don't really do that down there, so there will be
an imperative for them to get better. The thing is,
you're you're playing in the SEC West. It's gonna be
hard because there every week, so they're gonna have to
(25:20):
get better quickly. You know. The thing that I noticed,
guys and um is you know whether Jade Daniels, who
goes from Arizona State where his teammates like helped him pack,
right to LSU, to bow Knicks, who, of course his
dad played Auburn. He started as a freshman Auburn, but
but neither were great at their previous stop. Both lost
(25:43):
their job at their previous stop and they transfer. And
because you don't have to sit out like I don't,
why are we surprised at the same guy. Yeah, no,
it's a fair question. I can't I can't believe. I
can't believe that bow Knicks is not as good good
as like he. It's like what you see, it'd be
better if you give me a year to work on
(26:04):
the game. There's rushed the plan right away. No, you're
you're right. The absolutely that especially in bone next I
think Bonnix is who he is. He's just not that
good at quarterback. You know, he can improvise some plays.
He's fairly athletic, you know, but it's not that great
a quarterback that there's a long body of work now
(26:25):
from the Auburn days and through game one here that
you're gonna get what you get from him. So if
he was the day one starter at Oregon, I think
it says something about where that program is from a
quarterback standpoint. And I think you say the same thing
about Jade Daniels at LSU pat forty nine to three,
twenty nine, twenty six, Oregon loses a Georgia, Utah loses
(26:50):
the Ford and Utah the top ten team. Where does
the Pac twelfth go? Where do they go? They hope,
like hell, that USC is really good. Otherwise it's it was.
It was a rough start for the teams that are
expected to be at the top. Um. You know, Utah
Florida was a really good game. And perhaps we shoveled
(27:12):
too much dirt on Florida coming into the season, like,
oh they're rebuilding, don't that much talent, blah blah blah
blah blah. Anthony Richardson is a special talent. Yeah yeah,
and they've got a lot of other, you know, players
who can play. So you know, you go to the
swamp heck of a game, really a very good game.
(27:32):
Utah always starts the season slowly. Unfortunately. You can't really
avoid that too much in the in if you want
to try to make the college football playoff out of
the pack twelve. But this loss is not necessarily season
ruiner for them for Oregon, Hole and Moli. That was bad.
And that's a team with a veteran offensive line and
some really good players in the front seven defensively and
(27:52):
they just got steamrolled. Now, maybe that says Georgia can
win it all again, and I think that's possible. But
my goodness, that was a sobering performance by Oregon. Do
you think people watch college football differently with the kids
collecting the type of money they're making in Nio. I
think that's possible. Yeah, yeah, you know. I mean I
(28:15):
made a point of saying on Twitter after the East
Carolina kicker miss some extra point in the field goal
and they lose by one point in a Carol last
State kickers or college kickers or people too, and then
last night, I found myself repeating that, saying college punt
returners or people too, after the LSU punt returner dropped
two of them, and some of the replies were like,
now these guys are getting money now, and you don't
(28:37):
really doubt the East Carolina kickers getting any money, and
I'm not sure about the pencil so the LSU punt
returner too. But I think there is a little bit
of a different attitude of like, we don't have to
go so soft on the kids anymore because they're semi professionals.
So you know, that's part of the landscape. You guys
know how this goes you as athletes, and if you
(28:59):
are in the spot light and you are being compensated
for your efforts, people are going to feel like they
have the right to criticize you. Pat Patty join us
here Doug Gottlieb T J. Husman's in for Dan dan
Z Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Trade. Of course,
Pat forty longtime right now is Sports Illustrated. We haven't
discussed with you since it happened. Since it happened late
(29:21):
in the week. The expansion of the college fotball playoff,
which I think we all knew was coming, but then
last year it was like a psych not coming right.
So now it's what's been announced is again and it's
going to depend on what the conferences look like. But
twelve teams in top four seeds get a buy six
top conference champions. Okay, well we'll qualify automatically. Just you know,
(29:46):
what do you think of the format? Well, first of all,
let's just say you had another PR triumph five of
college football playoff. People. You have this great news, and
it's big news, and people have been waiting for this,
and it somehow comes out at four pm on Friday
of Labor Day weekend going into the first week of Friday.
(30:07):
It's the kind of thing you put out, Yeah, when
your programs immersed in scandal, not when you have good news.
But that's that's what we've been dealing with for years. Um.
The secondly, yeah, I mean I think it's great. I
think it's going to be really good. I think it's
it's it's good for the overall health of the sport,
for people in the a SEC, in the Big twelve,
(30:30):
in the PAC twelve who have been getting squeezed to
the side by the giants in the in the Big
ten and in the SEC. It's good for the group
of five. It's gonna be great to have playoff games
on campuses. The thing that I still think is a
glaring weakness in it is quarterfinals at full sights as
(30:50):
opposed to having quarterfinals on campuses too, you know. And
I think I do think you're gonna get to a
point where like Alabama and George are gonna be like, hey,
we want to host a game. We don't want to
go to Texas to play our quarterfinal. We want to
host that quarterfinal in our stadium. So maybe they will
eventually iron that out. But on the whole, look, it's
(31:11):
a great thing. And it is ridiculous that it took
fifteen months too, look long for it to happen, but
it's happening. It took one hundred years or to happen. Yeah,
Like there's one hundred years, one hundred years to make it.
It's it's almost like universal healthcare what happens. Like, Look,
I get it's not the greatest that there's there's flaws
to it, but man is a long there's a long
slog to get here to a play like we had
(31:32):
dual national champions in this century. We had two teams
that got to claim a national championship twenty years ago.
That's that. That's crazy to anyone else but the college
froobody like, yeah, that did happen. That's that we used
to do that. We always did it that way, so
we have to always continue to do it. Well, Look,
the bull thing, the bull things is because you're playing
(31:53):
to so many masters, right, you have like you can't
destroy all the bulls, even though he destroyed most of
the bulls. And then but you say, that's why you
have to have those quarterfinal games otherwise those polls go
away and there's just you know, too much money tied
into those the cities. I guess. So, but how do
you as a fan think about if you're a fan though,
if you if you go to a conference like you
(32:15):
go to so you go to a conference championship game?
Right now? Do you go to the conference because then
the next week you have you might play, if you win,
you might not play, you might have a buy it
just does at some point you get fans that travel
so well, it'll become a TV only sport. Because I
get that. We all think like everybody's just got money
to spend week after week after week. But at some
(32:36):
point in college town you're like, hey man, I had
to shell out all this money in donation for the
season tickets, then for the conference championship game. Then I
had to decide, all right, do I wait till the
semifinals the finals? Do I go? Right? I want to
go to the first one. I do think there will
be and then the other. The other interesting part, Pad
is you know some of those teams can play sixteen games.
That's a lot. That's a lot of football, and some
(32:57):
of those bodies, yeah, potentially even right seventeen, I think
if you get into that first round and go all
the way. But you know, and you're one hundred percent
correct about just squeezing the fans dollars and time as
much as you can. But that's another reason I have
quarterfinals at home, you know what, playing half the fans
and say all right, we'll just drive down the road
(33:18):
to Tuscaloosa from Birmingham or whatever the case may be,
and it's not going to cost as much. Pat, great stuff.
Can't wait to read your next piece. Thanks so much
for joining us in the Dan Patrick's Show. Hey my pleasure, guys.
Thank you all right. Coming up next, we are three
sleeps away from NFL football. What are we to make
of the Dallas Cowboys and their offensive issues heading into
the season. Find out Next to t Jasmins on Doug
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In a second, we have this uh we go. I
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(34:26):
we'll continue on tonight. In in a second, Brandon Wheed
and he'll join us from our Oklahoma State star quarterback,
first round pick of the Browns. He'll he'll join us
next hour. TJ. You've seen this video of the is
J Stewart were work? This is called the Freefall Tower, right?
Or is that is that the actual name? Or is
that what people are calling it? M I've seen it
(34:48):
called a free fall tower or a drop tower. Both
of them are or literal in this video. Oh yah,
so it's in it's in India. It's addie either. It
looks like a theme park. Doesn't look like like one
of those pop up up you know. I don't know
if do they have carneys in India. I have no idea.
There feels like a lot of jokes. I could get
me in a lot of trouble with the carneys in
(35:08):
India type of deal. Um. But but here's what I
saw is it's one of those towers where everybody sits
on top of like it's like a platform. You're like
stacked up, and then it rises to the top, you know,
and I don't know, what do you think? Five six seven,
who knows how many stories? Spins around and then drops down,
only to stop right before it gets to the bottom. Right,
(35:30):
we know what those those are like. Well, this one
did not stop and it hits it hits the base
of it and people obviously, and it's now this It
says no one died and at least ten people were injured.
First of all, thankfully nobody died. It's crazy because when
you when you see it, You're like, oh, there had
to be this is how can I watch this video?
(35:51):
This is somebody dying. Nobody died. That's why I don't
get all rides dug just because of that. I don't ride,
don't anymore. This is hard for me because so my
son and I we started a tradition last year and
we're going to try and keep it going. Is Russia
Shunna right, Jewish New Year? It's not a day of
that's not a day of sorrow. It's day you're not
supposed to so you can do everything you got to do.
(36:13):
In the morning, we went to Six Flags Road to
every ride except for two, every roller coaster except for two,
and the only reason we left before riding two of
them was because he had to get to tackle football practice,
which was like, you know, two to two and a half,
three hours away, and we didn't want to be late.
This year, no such problem. We're going. But I genuinely
(36:34):
people ask like, would you a skydive? Would I won't
skydive a one bungee because if that's one of those
if one thing goes wrong, you die. I don't feel
that's the case at like a six Flags. But now
I'm I'm I'm second. Guess I can't decide whether I'm second.
Can pay me to skydive you couldn't. There's no amount
of money that you could pay me to Scottive, have
(36:54):
no desire. I used to always get on a ride
and it was years ago, as a teenager, got on
a ride the Magic Mountain that's six Flags, and it
stopped and I'm like, what's going We set up there
for like twenty minutes. I'm like, oh, I'm done, Ryan
Ryan's but my kids ride them, so it just it's unfortunate.
I'm not even gonna send this to my kids because
it's fae scarm But man, I feel for those people
(37:17):
that thing just it goes down, they're probably like, man,
we're going down. I'm pretty fast and then boom, that's
that's top five nightmare. And then did you read the
operators that were operating it? They in the movie you
know you don't messed up? Right? They ran, They took
off running read the article. They ran because they knew
(37:39):
they messed up. So I don't even believe it malfunctioned.
I believe the humans malfunctioned. They ran. They didn't even
stay there to see if everybody was okay, they got
up out of there because they knew they made a mistake.
I just I'm I mean, I can't believe nobody will
you can? You can just Google search this video and
you're sitting there going, oh my god. I mean, the
(38:00):
fact that nobody died is a is a miracle, an
absolute miracle. And then the way it's reported j STU
where it's like, uh uh, at least ten people are injured.
You're like, that's it injured? Like how is that? That
video is harrowing? That video is I saw an updated
report where it says at least sixteen women and children
(38:22):
were injured. Yeah, I don't I don't understand the women
and children reporting. This is not like a hostage situation, right,
like just anybody being hurt don't have to be a
woman and a child being hurt is a bad is
a bad thing. It's like, well the women and children like, yeah,
it's a theme park, but so so TJ. If you
go to if your kids go to the Magic Mountain, right,
(38:47):
they ride with each other and you just sit there
and watch. I just sit down when I dude, we
go to the Orange County Fair. I just sit there
and watch them. We go to the fair every year.
I just sit there and watching. I'm trying to come
my son. He not trying to get on the scary rides.
He wants no part of Him'm like, ahead and try it,
bro like, just get on it. You gotta get on
and see what he's like. No, no, no, I'm pushing
(39:10):
him to do it. I gotta do. You want to
do it yourself? You want to hold his hand? Na? Na, no, no,
I'm done with that. I'm done with it. I mean
I did it when I was younger, and so I
want him to get that experience. But right now he
don't want the experience. And so after seeing that, I
see why he doesn't want the experience. And so I'm
gonna leave him alone. When it comes to that, he'll
ride his rise that he feels comfortable with. My oldest
(39:32):
daughter don't matter to her, she getting on any and
everything like that ride right there, should have got on
that shit. For her, It does not matter. She is
not afraid to get on any right. She's an adventurous
so she she's gonna give it a go. No. I mean,
like my my dude, my son is like that. He's
he's thirteen. But what's what's interesting is so I took
(39:53):
him to Magic Mountain with him and like what his
best friends and I remember, and it was it was
like only maybe four weeks after my knee surgery last
year's side town it. So I did I think I
a wore brace that day or whatever? Maybe I didn't
wear a brace anyway, I remember the first ride we
were on. I remember getting up and you get to
(40:15):
the top of him, and it goes like, why did
I do Why did I subject myself to this? Like
I don't actually think I like this, you know, and
then you get through the first run, You're like, Okay,
that's good. I kind of like that that pit of
your stomach feeling, and you know, then it kind of
gets good to you. But there was definitely a moment
during that ride and maybe the first couple where I'm like,
(40:36):
I'm not really sure why I signed up for this.
I mean, I'd like seeing my son's smile, but not
that much because I'm a softy. It's the heights thing
that that does me in. All right, we'll turn it
back to football coming up next. What can we legitimately
expect from the Cowboys with the injured and mangled mess
(41:00):
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