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Jason Martin, what's going on, man? How you doing? Doing well,
doing a lot better than it was last week. UH,
last week was not great. Our family has just been sick,
all of us in some way, shape or form, including
my daughter, for about a week and she's finally coming
out of it. So it's been it's been a little Harry,
but we've watched a lot of full ball over the
last week. Obviously I wasn't here when cool stuff was
happening last Saturday and of course here we are right

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in this time slot. You've got Oklahoma certainly in a
dog fight, you've got, as you mentioned, Texas A and
M in Arkansas in a pretty nice ball game, and then,
of course you've got some some of the obvious stuff
where some of the dominant teams are looking dominant. But
there's just a lot happening. There's a lot happening in
college ball, there's a ton happening on the professional gridiron.

(01:27):
There's stuff going on in the NBA in the offseason.
Aaron judge is going for Roger Marris's record, like it,
it's it. There's just it's crazy right now. No, it
is today. I was thinking about this as I was
kind of prepping for the show and you know, all
of this stuff with with Pooh holes hitting seven hundred
last night. Um, you know, you you just think about
everything going on. It feels like this is the first
time I fell in a while. Man, we're not gonna

(01:48):
be able to get to everything even in four hours
that we have, as I said, taking until two a
m eastern. Uh, as you just said, Jason, a couple
of interesting scores right now. Kansas state up early in
the third quarter twenty four twenty on number six ranked Oklahoma. Oklahoma,
of course, coming off that big, dominant win against Nebraska.
will discuss that. Texas A and M and Arkansas is

(02:08):
a close back and forth game. Texas A and M.
Twenty three, twenty one. I want to start with one
game that isn't close, though, Jason, and that is Ohio
state at home, up thirty eight to seven on the
Wisconsin Badgers. And why? It's worth noting a couple of things. One,
Ohio states without their best wide receiver, Jackson Smith, and
Jig but you may remember him from the Rose Bowl when,

(02:29):
I think, the three d forty seven yards receiving. There
down a starting cornerback and they are just absolutely rolling
over a Wisconsin team that, at the very least, has
always played good defense, top twenty defense across the board.
This year they actually had the number one defense in
college football last year, a year that was dominated by Georgia.
And so why I want to start here, Jason, is

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because during our pre show text chain with producer Bo uh,
you know, we talked about Uh. Well, you and Bo
talked about there being a very clear, obvious top three
with Georgia, Ohio state in Alabama, and this dumb guy
over here pushed back by saying, well, is Ohio state
that good? I know they put up a million points
last week against Toledo. But all of a sudden that

(03:12):
Notre Dame game doesn't probably look that Notre Dame win
probably doesn't look as good as we thought two or
three weeks ago with Notre Dame losing to Marshall. Well,
fast forward they are up thirty eight to seven on Wisconsin.
I don't know if they are the definitive too, if
they should be ranked one. All I know is that
I did have a few questions coming into this game
and they have answers for all of them tonight. Jason. Yeah, look,

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I think it's fair to have questions. Um, there's a
lot that we don't know about these teams and there
have been kind of moments where you've looked at the
mill like ain't about a lot of these teams across
the country. But I looked at it. My My pushback
to your pushback when we were in the text chaine
earlier was just okay, so the Notre Dame win doesn't
look as great right now, but who else like what

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outside of Georgia and what they did to Oregon? That's
the one that still stands out as being incredibly impressive.
Even Alabama beating Texas isn't that impressive, considering when yours
went down. It felt like a different game pretty much
at that moment. So I think that it's still relatively
early and they're still winning games. The one thing that
we have seen all day today is a lot of

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teams that haven't looked like these weren't a plus efforts
from Michigan and Clemson, and we'll see what over Georgia does.
Even Georgia exactly right, but they did win these ball games.
They're still undefeated and maybe that's sort of the takeaway here,
is the style points maybe weren't there in some of
these cases today, but I don't think that you knocked

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Georgia because it's thirty nine two against Kent State. You
know they maybe they did kind of sleepwalk through that game.
They still wanted by seventeen points. They're still undefeated and
we still remember what they're capable of. So I look
at the same way with Ohio state and I think
it also helps them that Michigan didn't look particularly good
today against Maryland either. Yeah, I would. I would add
a couple of things. On the Ohio state thing. I

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think what stands out to me is a couple of things. One,
the offense is humming without Jackson Smith and Jig but,
but, but but, what really stands out, and Jason, you know
you and I were we started doing this show last
year and with Ohio state they were really good for
big stretches, but they also lost to Oregon at home.
They got destroyed by Michigan Uh in a game that
was dominated at the line of scrimmage. Even the Rose Bowl.

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They wanted, but Utah moved the ball up and down
the field on them. And I know it's Wisconsin and
I know Wisconsin, you know, historically has not been the
most offensively inclined team and I know that they already
have a loss to Washington state on the schedule earlier
this year. But just looking at this game, what is
impressive to me, Jason, is I do think that at
times in this Ohio State era with Ryan Day uh

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they've gotten too reliant on just the big play, especially
in the passing game, and when you have quarterbacks like
Justin fields and C J Stroud. Uh. It's hard to
blame a coach for wanting to get creative and show
off the whole playbook when you have C J Stroud,
when you have Garrett Wilson, who had two touchdown catches
last the other week for the New York jets, when
you have all of these guys that are difference makers
on offense. What stands out to me about this game, Jason?

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First of all, Ohio state right now, as we speak,
again up thirty eight seven, a hundred nine nine yards rushing,
six and a half yards per carry. On top of that,
Wisconsin with a hundred thirty total yards of offense and
they are really struggling to move the ball. So I
think the big conversation bigger picture, and you're right, it's

(06:28):
too early to know too much on pretty much anybody
at this point. But at the same time what we
wanted to see out of Ohio state after last year
was is this a trend of this is kind of
a finesse team that puts up a lot of points
but can't win games at physical with the Line of scrimmage? Well,
they seem to have addressed it in the off season
with some of the coaching changes. They brought in Jim Knowles,

(06:49):
the the defensive coordinator, and it's showing on the field
where they are winning this game by dominating the line
of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Yeah, so
I'll mention one thing, and this is not gonna make
certain listeners happy, but can we stop trying to make
Wisconsin a thing, like can we stop annually crowning them
like they're like they're just on the cusp of being

(07:11):
national title contenders, like they're a good program? They've been
a good program for a very, very long time. This
shouldn't surprise anybody now the fact that it is as
lopsided as it is. You can't ask for more than
what Ohio State is giving you at home tonight against Wisconsin.
Don't get me wrong, but Wisconsin is not that good.

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Like every year, it seems like here they are in
the top fifteen again. I don't know exactly where they were,
if they were preseason ranked this year or not, but
usually they are given this benefit of the doubt, despite
the fact that usually when you get to the end
of the season, as long as there has been, you know,
the East and the West and the way it's all
set up. UH, they've been there for the big ten

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championship only to get absolutely brutalized by whether it's Ohio
state or it's Michigan, or it's Penn state or it's
Michigan State, it doesn't matter. Like Wisconsin is one of
those good, above average, you know, top fifteen ish kind
of programs that has absolutely no chance whatsoever mattering in

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the national title contendership. Well, a couple of things. One,
they were ranked number eighteen in the preseason. So so
that's one I should mention. By the way, Texas A
and M up twenty. What was it? Twenty three? They did.
Just missed the field with one. Excuse me, just missed
a field goal that would have put them up five.
Arkansas has the ball six minutes left, trailing twenty three

(08:33):
to twenty one in that one. Will keep you updated
on that one, Um. But you know what I would
say to that JAS? I don't disagree that. Like they
are who they are at this point. Right and and
you know we have this conversation in sports sometimes. Like
Wisconsin is who they are. They're gonna run the ball,
they're gonna play defense, they're gonna probably Um lose the
game that they shouldn't. They're gonna not beat themselves whatever.

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The only counter that I would have to that is
the one thing that they have been really good the
last couple of years, even as the offenses struggled, has
been really good defensively and this year is no exception.
They came in allowing two hundred forty eight yards per
game through the first three games, and the competition wasn't great.
Ohio state has over four hundred early in the midway

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through the third quarter, I should say. UH, coming into
this coming into this game, they were allowing as a
team somewhere in the neighborhood of eight points per game.
They have Ohio State has scored thirty eight here, midway
through the third quarter. So that's really my only thing
with this is it's not to say that Wisconsin, they're
not even ranked coming into this one. It's not to

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say there's some world beater juggernaut. I guess what I
would just say is if I'm an Ohio State Fan,
because Ohio state, and you know, I think there's a
lot of programs that we claim have, you know, national
title or bust, kind of expect Ohio State. It really
is like like last year when they lost to Michigan,
didn't win the big ten. It was code read. Silent
the alarms. We have problems. And so again it's early,

(09:58):
it's Wisconsin. The schedule is gonna get tougher. You have
to play at Penn State, you have to play Michigan
later in the year. But for what you wanted out
of this game, and there's still five and a half
minutes left in the third quarter. Stuff can change by
the time this thing goes final. I just think it's
what you've wanted to see out of this team early on. Jason. Yeah, now,
that part I completely agree with. Like I said, you
can't ask for more than what Ohio State is doing

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tonight to we get look, I'm not calling him a scrub.
They're they're a quality opponent. I just stopped short of
acting like holy cow, they're beating Oklahoma. Holy Cow, they're
beating Alabama like easy, easy Wisconsin. This is just generally
like Wisconsin. Treker right now is two in one. They
beat in Illinois State, New Mexico state and lost to
Washington state. I'm pretty sure if Nebraska had that schedule

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they would also be two in one. That's what I'm saying.
I know, I know, but even even Scott Frost, I think,
could beat Illinois State and New Mexico state, who they
beat sixty six to seven. Wisconsin did. Washington state today
equated themselves well and a close loss against to Oregon
when Oregon made to come back. Seventeen fourteen. No Real

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slouch there to lose to a pretty game team. But
I just don't look at Wisconsin is anything better than
around the number eighteen team in the country. This is
what if you're a real contender, if you're a legit Juggernaut,
which is the word that you use, this is what
you do to the Wisconsin Badgers. And in two thousand
twenty two, you go out and you make a statement

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in prime time on national television. And that's exactly what
Ohio state is doing. They're planning their flag and saying
here we are stayed up thirty eight to seven, four
minutes left in the third quarter. Rolling There Kansas State
Up Twenty four to twenty on Oklahoma. Will keep you
updated on that one. And then the big one that
is coming down the stretch here, the southwest classic at

(11:45):
Jerry World. Arkansas is driving down twenty three to twenty one.
Five minutes left. It looks like they may already sort
of be in field goal range if it comes down
to that. So we will keep you updated on that
busy night in college football. Coming back we will discuss
the teams that Jason mentioned, Clemson, Michigan. They get the winds,

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get caught up on something here. A M is up
twenty three, twenty one on Arkansas. They had a field
goal attempt. I'm I somehow missed it live, even though
I've been watching this game. It appears as though the
the goal, the the kick, hit the top of the upright.

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I'm trying to get video on it. It hit the
top of the upright and went the wrong direction. Texas
A and Ed with the lead with one thirty left.
Jason Marron, have you seen video of this? This is crazy. No,
I looked up and saw Max Johnson fistbound, so that
that was kind of I was actually doing some research
for some lines that we're gonna do later on in

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the shows. I gotta do something, man Um Yeah, so
I'm gonna have to. I guess they'll show it when
they come back out of this break, but that's based
on your description of it. That's not the kind of
thing that you see every day. So and that's bad news,
obviously if you're Arkansas, F M, because they needed that

(14:12):
one to take the lead, still trailing by two with
a minute and a half left. That might be it.
And Look, a and M, I said I sent a
message and then apparently they saw the text that I
sent you, guys, I sent you a text at Fourteen A.
Nothing said. A and M better be real careful right now,
because it looks like Arkansas was just gonna take this
game and run off into the hills with it. Credit

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to a and M. and I think we have two
situations in the state of Texas that I would like
to quickly mention, and that's just this. Let's do it.
Hudson Card and Haynes King. What like? What? What is it?
I knew within five minutes. I know I was sick
last week. I'm sitting there with a fever trying to
pay attention to Texas A and M Miami. I knew

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within five minutes Max Johnson was better than what I
had seen from Texas A and M PRI that's why
I just realized he was the better player. And we
could see within a drive that Quinn, you or should
be the guy for Texas before we went down with
that injury. Either it's smoke screens or this is much
harder to diagnose and practice and some of these guys
look good in practice and then can't do it in

(15:17):
the game. Because it seems to me that Max Johnson
should have been playing from the very get go. I
had that thought as I was watching the early part
of this game. Um, I think not starting Max Johnson
to start the season is a much more firable offense
than actually losing to APP State for Jimbo Fisher. So
the the kick does go off the top of the

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upright and out. I should get you caught up on
a few other scores. Kansas state kicks a field goal.
They're up twenties seven. Twenty number six ranked Oklahoma. Ohio
state has scored again, forty five to seven. Uh. And also,
US see, how about this down seven, nothing at Oregon State. Unfortunately,
it's on the PAC twelve network and many of us,
including those of us here in the tirect dot com studios,

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do not get packed twelve network. Nout. Jason Martin in
Nashville and Arnie Spaniard in in Burlington Vermont get it
no problem, but here in the TIREC DOT COM studios.
No luck there. So I'll keep you I'll keep you
up to date. You know. Look, man, we're big time
packed twelve fans here in the music city. What does
that mean? I'm kidding. Okay, okay, Oh, I thought I

(16:22):
thought there was some like weird us like, you know
with all the realignment stuff. You know how I'm like, Oh, yeah,
I'm just sitting here in big ten country with uh
here in Los Angeles, big ten country. I thought there
was some kind of hidden you know, I I root
for this team because it's good for my team. You
don't you know how that is sometimes in sports. Jason
is like, yeah, we're big fans of this team because
they beat that team that we hate. So I didn't

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know if there was like an unintended joke there. By
the way, we, they, we, they. We have seen video. Yes,
Arkansas's kicker kicks, it hits the top of the upright
and is no good, falls on the inside. So A
and M has the ball. One twenty seven left. UH,
Arkansas has no time outs left. So it appears as

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though if a and M does not fumble the ball here, uh,
they will hold on to beat Arkansas in the southwest classic.
You know what, Jason, really quickly, while you mentioned it,
Texas did take the loss to Um to Texas tech
today in overtime. Um. I want to talk about two
kind of losses that happened today, but let's start with
the Texas one. Are you. We were texting and you know,

(17:25):
I think it's easy to kind of do the is
Texas back joke? No, they're not. Blah, blah, blah, Blah Blah.
But they did lose as a as a favorite against
Texas Tech. Is is pretty much anything that happens with
Texas until Queen Yours comes back. Is it just Nolan void?
Because the way that I look at it is, Um,
I didn't have expectations of them coming in and then
they were awesome with Queen Yours and then the second

(17:46):
that Queen Yours got hurt against Alabama, was like Oh, this,
this backup quarterback, as you just said, is nowhere near
what the starter was. Um. So do you I mean,
is there anything to take out of Texas losing, or
is this just until you have your starting quarterback that,
it was very clear, was every bit the five star
he was hyped to be. You really can't make much

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out of Texas. Look, I really can't add to what
you just said, because I couldn't agree more. I'm exactly
the same way. I didn't know what to make of
Texas coming into the season. We were all extremely excited
to see what Quinn Yours could actually do on the field,
and then we saw it. I'm giving Sark a complete
pass right now, complete like it's. It's like when Colt
McCoy went down in the national title game and Bama

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ended up winning it. Like what Texas supposed to do
without cult McCoy? Like, I know they have a lot
of talented players Um in Austin, but yours was really
something special when you could see it in that Alabama game,
and I think that was the plan. And once that
plan went or I you lose your quarterback, you lose
a lot. Like I'm not gonna dog out brandon stay

(18:50):
if Justin Herbert's out for the season or something like that.
I'm not comparing. You were exactly like. You just can't
at this point. I'm certainly not somebody that that is
prone to be pro Texas. Their fan base and everything
else makes it kind of hard to root for them.
Most of the time, but in this case I just
feel bad for Sarka, feel bad for everybody associated with Texas,

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because I think they may have had something going there,
but without their quarterback, I just can't look at them
and kind of point any kind of finger of derision.
I just say that's rotten luck. All right, so let's
stay in the state of Texas, because Texas A and
M has taken a knee. They're gonna be able to
essentially run out the clock here Um and beat Arkansas.
It looks as though Arkansas cannot stop the clock at

(19:34):
this point and it does not appear as though Arkansas
will be able to get the ball back. Let's let's
do the Texas A and M thing. You feel awful
for the kicker who you know is having trouble holding
it together. Texas A and M is going to win
twenty three to twenty one. Jason, I don't you know,
I don't know really what to make of Texas A
and M. I mean they're they're obviously three and one.
Now they have the terrible loss to APP state, and

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I'm sorry, with due respect to APP state, it is
terrible loss if you're Texas A and M Um. They
have beaten back to back ranked teams. Now Miami loss today.
We'll talk about Miami here in a minute. Do we
like Texas A and M? Do we not like Texas
A and M? I? I I really I don't know what
to make of this team. As they get to win
twenty three to twenty one is the final, Texas A

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and M improves to three and one. I like them
better with Max Johnson and I like Devon a chain
and a chain ran wild against Miami. He actually was
critical to them near the end of the first half tonight,
just kind of getting things moving, and really I mean
he he is important to the flow of what they do.
I don't know what to make of them either. I

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don't think they're a contender. I don't think they're complete enough.
I don't think they're experienced enough to be a contender.
What I find them to be right now is kind
of a flying the appointment team. They're a team that's
gonna be really annoying for other contenders in the southeastern
conference throughout the rest of the year. I don't know
what that means in terms of a record. It might
still mean four losses, but they're gonna be a tough out.

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They're gonna show up and I think that I think
Max Johnson changes the way that if they still were
rolling out there with Haynes Kang. First of all, I
don't know at that point in time if they even
have the record that they have right now. I just
kind of look at them and say they're a dangerous team.
They're certainly interesting to me. Now, I would stop short
of saying more than that. Yeah, it's it's I just

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I don't know what to make of them because I
will say this right and we can talk about the
N I l accusations, we can talk about whether Jimbo
Fisher is a good coach or not. You can see
the bare bones of why people would like this team.
You can see it because they have the steady quarterback,
they do have the guys at the skill positions and

(21:39):
the defense gave up fourteen early and gave up, you know,
one touchdown over the final three quarters of this game,
and so it's just a weird one where, you know,
and maybe as we talk it out over the next
three hours I'll come up with something better, but you know,
one you're supposed to be about three and one at
this point. I mean I I think again, nobody thought
that they were. I most people thought they were still

(22:01):
probably a year away, but at the same time, Um,
I don't know, it's too close wins. The offense still
isn't humming. But I guess that's just what I would say, Jason.
You can see the bare bones of a really good
team coming together, even if it's not there yet. And again,
I I don't know if that's okay by Texas, by

(22:23):
the standard that Texas A and M has set for
itself as a program right now, but you can see it,
but it's definitely not there yet. Yeah, I would just
say they're gonna be irritating to beat. I think the
teams will continue to beat them at least a few
more during the course of this season, but they're gonna
play hard and they're gonna run the ball effectively. Their
defense has kind of been spotty, but over the last
few weeks, when they've needed to, they've been able to

(22:45):
come up with some crucial stops. I credit them for
at least righting the ship. And Look, eventually you gotta
get the quarterback thing right from the get go and eventually,
if you're getting all these high end recruits and and
all this. One of them needs to be at the
most important position. And I'm American Team Sports, but at
least you've figured it out quick you've got one loss
in your Texas a and M, and you play in

(23:06):
the one conference where it's possible to have a loss.
If you go on it, if you go on the
run that you have to go on through that conference,
you could still potentially do something special here. Do I
think you can get back into the top four? Probably not,
because that loss is not like you lost to Alabama
and that's your one loss. You lost to Appalachian State.
But I do think that a and M is on

(23:27):
a pathway towards something and they are starting to show
I think that your description of it is probably right.
You can see sort of you could see the nuts
and bolts. You can see the skeleton of something dangerous,
something special. H I don't think it's fully formed yet, though.
This since Fox Sports Radio Eron torge Jason Martin, coming

(23:48):
to you alive from the tire rack dot com studios.
Coming up we will get to some of the other
big stories across college football. Weird Day to day where
a bunch of teams were on the brink of upsets.
It didn't, not quite happen, but a couple of teams
are on the break of upsets right now. For that
let's throw it over the news desk with Steve to
Sega with what's trending, what's up to sea? Hello, gentlemen,

(24:08):
with a minute and a half to go at Arlington, Texas,
Arkansas was kicking to take the lead, and the field
goal attempt at the top of the right upright and
m holds on for a twenty three one victory. Wow.
Number Eight Kentucky beat Northern Illinois Thirty One twenty three.
And Number Twelve N C stayed all over Yukon, one

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to ten. I bring that up just because it happened
to just now finish, not that it has anything to
do with the two people on this show. True Freshman
backup quarterback, top two running backs, top three wide receivers
are heard here. It would have been forty one to
twenty otherwise, by the way. Yes, and state's got Clemson
next week. I'm just saying that's true. Believe me, we

(24:49):
know all about a textile bowl baby at Clemson next
Saturday h Washington. The late Games are starting to get underway.
Eighteenth ranked Washington is on fs one tonight, about to
start hosting Stanford. Number Thirteen, Utah's at what's left of
Arizona State and Wyoming is playing at Number Nineteen B
Y u. That is underway. Meanwhile, Oregon State, at three

(25:10):
and Oh this year, lead seventh ranked USC seven to
nothing early in the second quarter. On Fox TV. Final
seconds of the third quarter, Kansas State is still leading
at sixth ranked Oklahoma, twenty seven to twenty. At number
three Ohio state, it's Buckey's forty five seven over Wisconsin,
which is driving. For what it's worth, with ten minutes
to go and five minutes left. Number two Alabama now

(25:32):
at forty eight three over vanderbilt. Also in progress. Per
due has taken the lead of twenty over Florida Atlantic
with eight minutes to go. Middle Tennessee one at Miami,
forty five to thirty one. Texas tech in overtime beat
Texas thirty seven thirty four. Sixteenth ranked old Miss Eventually
put away Tulsa, thirty five to twenty seven. You referenced

(25:55):
earlier game on Fox. Number Fifteen Oregon was trailing but
came back to win at Washington and state. Forty one
wins in the top ten for Georgia, for Michigan and
for number five Clemson. In double overtime it wakes force
fifty one, forty five, despite six touchdown passes from Sam Hartman,
and Tennessee, ranked eleven this week beat Florida eight, thirty

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three two. Major League Baseball, the Yankees won their six
straight games, seven five over Boston. Aaron judge went over
for three. So was batting average down to three fourteen.
Now leading the American League is Xander Bogart's of the
Red Zux, who had two hits in his batting three.
Judge still at sixty homers. We have over a week
left in the regular season. Oakland beat the mets and
Jacob degrom ten to four, while the braves were winners

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for Atlanta, and the braves are just a game and
a half back of the first place mets in the
NL East. Milwaukee and Toronto each one on the road.
Cleveland as well. The guardians have won six in a row.
Titans left tackle Taylor Lawan is out for the year
with a knee injury. Tennessee hosts the raiders tomorrow. Las
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one game we haven't gotten to yet. Jason, what did
you make of Miami Middle Tennessee state, while while Tennessee
itself was almost just giving away a win to Florida,
which I don't know is there by the way. Is
there a takeaway from Tennessee Florida? I mean it was
mostly a good effort by Texas A and M or

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by Tennessee, but then they almost completely gave it away.
I don't you live in Tennessee. was there a takeaway
from the Tennessee game before we get to Middle Tennessee,
Texas A and M, I would say that the takeawayle Tennessee, Miami,
not Texas. Yeah, I'd say the takeaway is just Tennessee
hadn't be in Florida in five tries. This was a
game that they were favored by ten by the time

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it got to kick off. I expected them to win
this game. I expected their offense to look the part.
Anthony Richardon has still had less than half a dozen
starts as the Florida quarterback and he was running all
over them. I think that there I think Tennessee's win
is still impressive because it's Florida and that's just a
giant monkey to get off your back. That's the that's
one of the Big Three in the SEC that you

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have to start to take down. If you want to
join the upper ruschelant, you gotta beat Florida. Then there's
Georgia and Alabama. You'RE gonna get your crack at both
of them before the end of the year. That offense,
I think, could give Georgia some trouble. At least. I
want to see what George's defense can do to Tennessee's offense.
I find that game to be pretty, pretty fascinating. But look,
you win in the SEC, you beat a hated rival,

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you do so scoring a lot of points in the game. Yeah,
it got kind of close there and got kind of
hairy there at the very, very end. Tennessee was the
better team. I feel like they're a little further in
their kind of rebirth than Florida is with Billy Napier.
So I can't say anything other than they're a ten
to fifteen ranked team. Tennessee is because I don't trust

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the defense to be consistent enough. At times. They flash
and looked apart. The offense is going going to score
a lot of points against just about anybody they play.
I think it was relatively impressive just because that opponent
has been a Boogeyman for Tennessee for quite a while. Well,
they almost were again late, late lead that you know,
Florida recovers the onside kick late. They do get the win.

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All right. Let's get to the other one that I
just mentioned. Miami at home and they went to Texas
A and M last week and we all watched the game. Jason,
I know you were a little under the weather, but
um largely outplayed Texas A and M. I mean in
that game they finished with nine points, but they outgained
Texas A and M by over a hundred yards. They
had about five yards per carry, ran the ball right
at Texas A and M Um. They didn't get the

(29:57):
win and then they go home today and lose to
Middle Tennessee state Um again. It's like, you know, I
want to have a stuer like. I don't know. I
don't know what people expected from Miami this year under
year one, under Mario Cristo Ball. I know they brought
back Tyler Van Dyke, the quarterback who had a ton
of success late last year. Was Actually Bench today. Obviously
this is inexcusable, but I guess what I would just

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say is to be disappointed by this game from Miami
you had to have actual expectations from Miami, and I
don't know that I did have actual expectations from Miami.
I didn't either, but look it up. What was their
preseason right, because I'm pretty sure that it was much
higher than they are right now. Were they top fifteen?

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Somewhere in that neighborhood? Don Brown knows they were number sixteen,
maybe sixteen six right there. All right. Anybody believe there's
a sixteen best team in the country? Anybody believe that
last week? Anybody believe that before. Last week one of
the things we did the top story lines of the
things that we were interested to see this year. One
of them from me was is Mario Kristo Baal just

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an elite recruiter or is he also a great football coach,
like day of meaning can he get the job done
XS and o style, or is he James Franklin, which
has been one of the Knox and Pin State is man?
He can get kids there. He's got everything that you want,
the momentum, the rallying, all of that kind of stuff,
and then you get the game day and it can
sometimes be a little bit ragged. It can be a

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little bit average and a little bit underwhelming. Krista Ball,
look had success at Oregon now, he said, and of
course he was under the saving try before that. Now
he's at Miami. That's a conference that's right there for you.
There's only a couple of teams that you really have
to look out for. MIAMI. We're gonna see when they
bring in their joes, because basically at this point, Krista

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ball is what Jimbo Fisher without a national championship. That's
kind of like you bring him to Miami, he's supposed
to be the guy. He's supposed to be the Pie
Piper for you. I'm not seeing that as of yet.
But to your point, I have no idea what Miami
was gonna be either, and I certainly did not believe
that they were the sixteenth best team in the country
going into the season. Here's a hot take. I don't

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think many Diaz was that bad, like like you know. So, so,
going back to last year, they finished seven and five.
They get smoked by Alabama game one. Okay, big deal.
They lose to Michigan State, ends up being not as
bad of a loss as we thought. Other three losses,
by two to Virginia, by three at North Carolina, by
three at Florida state. Like, like you know, I don't like.

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So I get when I guess there's a lot of
times when a coach gets fired and I get it
and it's not that I like, I'm gonna sit here
and like throw my body on like you know, the
many Diaz is the greatest coach ever grenade, but like,
I don't know, like I just it was one where
I think you know, and the story is pretty well known,

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but but Kirk Curb Street called out Miami on College
Game Day said they're not committed financially the way they
need to be. The school president kind of calls up
his his kind of guys and girls and says what
do we have to do to be competitive? And they
said get rid of that Guy, go get Mario Cristo Ball.
And it was the weird thing, Jason, and I know
you remember this part, but they didn't fire many Diaz

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until they knew they had Mario Cristo Ball. And if
you remember, it was like this weird three or four
day thing where many Diaz is still the head coach
but they're actively recruiting Mario Crista Ball. And if they
don't get Mario Christina Ball, if he wants to stay
at at Oregon, then they're not gonna fire Manny Ds.
So you know, it's just one where many DAS recruited. Well,
they were, they were close to being a respectable team.

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Um and I don't know, like I I just like
you said, I think for us to sit here and
call it the worst. Now you can't lose to Middle Tennessee,
I get that that's bad. It will be bad. It
will always be bad if you're Miami. But again, it
goes back to what I just said a minute ago. Um,
I just think that like to to be like critical
and like crushed, and this is the most embarrassing thing ever.

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It's to presume that we thought Miami was good, and
I didn't think my who was that going to beginning?
So I keep making the comparison with Miami and a
and M Um Jimbo went from the A C C
to the SEC and then of course you have Mario
coming all the way across the country from the pack
twelve to the A C C. But what's your point
about Manny Diaz? That whole situation was a bad look.

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The whole thing was horrible. It looked bad for the
university and Diaz looked like he was just getting royally
screwed in the process. And then I look at a
and M and I'm just like it was different, certainly
in terms of how how it came about, but I
never thought Kevin Sumle was that bad either. Like I
kind of look at it in a similar context and

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just say, who did you get? How much better did
you get of an actual head coach than you had? Because,
to your point, Mario Cristo Ball's biggest skill was recruiting.
That's the thing that he's known to be able to
do the absolute best, and you just said Manny Diaz
was a good recruiter. So what did you do? You
just love up your Pokemon, basically, but you didn't necessarily

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And Jason, one game that we've kind of neglected, certainly
we we've neglected as Ohio state scores again. They have

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now put up fifty two points on a Wisconsin defense
that came in averaging allowing eight points per game. Oklahoma,
number six in the country, destroyed Nebraska the week after
Scott Frost got fired and we all thought, you know, I,
I certainly in this time slot last week, kind of
crowned them. They're contender, they're legit, they have a real

(36:07):
defense to go with an offense that hasn't missed a
beat without Lincoln Riley. They're down twenty seven to twenty
to Kansas State at home and Kansas State is driving
here midway through the fourth quarter. The game is on
Fox for people who are not in front of a television.
Uh Left, Kansas State driving on Oklahoma here midway through

(36:28):
the fourth quarter. Yeah, look, before the season and and
probably in the last six weeks prior to the start
of the regular season, I started to see more and
more people kind of being heavy on Kansas State and
saying there they could win the big twelve, like they're
a trendy big twelve championship pick. They're dangerous team. Well,

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this would be much more interesting if Kansas State hadn't
lost to two lane last week, because you would have
to three and o football teams instead of a two
and one Kansas state team with an awful us that
they have no excuse for against the number six team
in the country. But you'd have two undefeated teams in
this situation and you'd be able to back this up
a little bit more. That said, Oklahoma shouldn't lose this game,

(37:12):
not based on what you saw, because what you saw
last week didn't feel like a mirage. What you've seen
to this point in the season look legitimate. That said,
what I've been watching and I've had this thing. Basically
this has been the only game since and M Arkansas ended.
This is the one that I've been focused completely on. Uh,
there's a whole lot of completions on third down keeping
Kansas State on the field. And the biggest thing ten

(37:34):
Oklahoma penalties. One that just happened that gave them an
automatic first down on what would have been an incompletion.
They've got ten penalties in the game, does Oklahoma? That's
how you get beat in a game like this, and
right now we're under ten minutes left and they may
be up, and by day I mean Kansas State, maybe
on the verge of going up multiple scores. Well, and Um,

(37:55):
you're exactly right. Seven ten penalties for seventy two yards.
U Uh. Kansas state has converted six, six third down attempts.
You know what's interesting, Jason? If if Oklahoma were to
lose this game, there'd be, well, I guess, a few undefeated.
You know, Kansas would be undefeated, uh, four and oh
in league play. So I thought they might be the

(38:17):
only undefeated team. Oklahoma state is undefeated at three, and
Oh TCU is undefeated as well after beating smu today.
But but yeah, no, this is this is weird. Um as,
that was a big play, but it looks like it was.
It was a lot of role. But now, okay, I'll listen.
I'll say this about Oklahoma. I was a buyer. I
was even more of a buyer after last week. Uh,

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and this looks ugly. I mean, you know, I guess
everybody is prone to these kind of games, but I
do think Oklahoma was a team that that really had
its site set set on winning the big twelve title. Um,
you know, making a playoff run, proving Lincoln, approving Lincoln
Riley wasn't the only factor in their success, and that
that a lot of talent was left behind. Obviously, losing
tonight doesn't preclude you from me of that, but it

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would put them way behind the eight ball. Is there? UH, frankly,
two weeks, two weeks away from Texas, as was that
Adrian Martinez running it in. So Adrian Martinez, the former
Nebraska quarterback, has run, has run it in. Kansas state
now up thirty three to twenty, eight minutes to go.
As the number six team in the country, Oklahoma is

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down Jason's. Yeah, look, if Oklahoma were to be able
to come back in this game, you can look at
it and say again, as we mentioned earlier, Michigan didn't
look that impressive, but they won. Clemson was able to
escape Winston Salem with a victory, beating wake forest. I
thought you was able to get this win, everything would
probably be okay. Not a lot of style points today.
The problem is now you're down two scores with eight

(39:44):
minutes left and you have not exactly been torching them
up and down the field, and at this point you
make one more mistake, this ball game is over. Yeah,
eight minutes left in that game. Kansas State up thirty
four to twenty. Couple other scores for you right now.
Utah has just started against Arizona State. Arizona State, of course,
Um last week fired her Edwards, their head coach. Utah's

(40:07):
up seven nothing in that one. Alabama has just closed
out a forty eight to three victory over over, excuse me, over, Vanderbilt.
Ohio state just rolling past Wisconsin, fifty two to fourteen,
seven twenty one left in the third quarter, and Oregon
State up seven to three on USC early in that game.

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B Y, you also done three nothing early on Wyoming.
Coming up more college football. We will get to some
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Tom the way tire buying should be. Uh To say,
you just told you number six Oklahoma on the ropes,
but they have just scored. Cuts the lead to thirty.

(41:10):
What is the thirty four to twenty seven extra point pending?
Is that right, Jason Martin? Right now? So I so
thirty eight, thirty four twenty six. Extra point pending. Obviously
there is just about five minutes left in this game,
so we will keep you updated on this. Oklahoma trying
to rally and avoid an upset. They were about a

(41:31):
twelve point favorite coming into this one. Kansas State still
leads thirty four to twenty seven. We got you updated
to say you just got you updated on everything that
you've missed here since we went to break. Ohio state
is going to close out the victory. They have the
backup quarterback in fifty two, twenty one. Couple of late,
late starts. Uh Utah Driving on Arizona State, up seven nothing,

(41:53):
B Y U up seven three on Wyoming. So Jason.
A couple of teams that we did not talk about
played in the early window. And you know what was
I gonna say? Um Uh, Oklahoma may fit into this
depending on how this goes, but but it was like
almost upset Saturday. To kind of open the day, Clemson
wins in overtime. Michigan wins by a touchdown against against Maryland.

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Let's start with Clemson. So Clemson, just a wild game
right and it's it's ironic that you know Oklahoma's playing now.
Brent Venables, the Oklahoma head coach, is the former clemson coordinator.
Clemson could not get a stop to save their lives today,
as wake forest has almost four hundred fifty yards of
total offense, eleven yards per completion. UH, Clemson, ten penalties,

(42:38):
a hundred twenty yards. They had about a million pass
interference penalties. They just had no answer for that wake
forest offense. But I'll say this credit to DJ UI
Angela Lay Um, a guy that has been much maligned.
Three hundred seventy one yards passing five touchdowns. Clemson escapes
and I think, as we discussed to lead the show,

(42:59):
we're STAR gonna get into that time a year where
we're teams are starting to separate themselves. Maybe we thought
Oklahoma was something, but they're not. Maybe we thought this
team was better than they were, but Clemson gets to win.
They survive against wake fource. Yeah, maybe, but also maybe
they actually still are. Also when it comes to Oklahoma, Clemson,
some of these other kinds of teams that I still
would say are they're a tier below the teams that

(43:22):
we sort of see in a different light. But to
your point, we Golay had a really nice day. He
needed to because it was two gatling guns basically firing
at one another four sixty minutes in Winston Salem. Clemson
to defense was not as advertised this that performance today
was not indicative of what we have been told their

(43:42):
defense was going to be to open this year when
they were in a lot of people's top three, or
certainly top four, if you looked at a lot of
the national guys and how they predicted the season to
go through. But wake does this to everybody. Wake puts
up a thoul some points on just about everybody and
they give up. That's the thing. Like causon's offense at

(44:06):
wake forest with Hartman at quarterback has been truly special
the last couple of years and all credit to that
program because it's been ages since they've been even near
relevant and it's a lot of fun there. And I
lived in that city for a long time, like five
miles from that campus. It was a basketball it was
a basketball city, it was a basketball team, it was

(44:27):
a basketball program, it was a basketball university outside the academics,
of course. Uh Now it has flipped completely and what
they're doing on the Gridiron is pretty impressive. Given up
a tony yards to wake doesn't bother me as much
because their offense can do this. I think this was
more you gotta survive. They went on the road to
one of their toughest opponents of the year, a team

(44:50):
that was borderline top twenty at worst in wake forest,
that was certainly going to score on them, and we're
actually able to outdule them in a shootout. That's the
way like, the way they won, is not how you
would anticipate clemson being able to win that game. Yet
they did, and they changed their defense in the second
half and, if you noticed, Hartman went wild for three

(45:11):
quarters and then clawson started running the ball more and more,
and the reason why, and this was this was mentioned
on the broadcast, is because clemson changed, they altered the
way that they were scheming defensively and it actually made
clawson have to go to the ground. So I hadn't
really thought about it like this until we just started
talking right now. Could you argue, and I'm not necessarily

(45:33):
saying I believe this, but I just wanted to enter
the conversation, is it possible that this was kind of
a best case scenario for Clemson? Let me explain why,
because you don't want defense to ever give up forty
five points. I didn't even mention the game went into
double overtime, but the whole conversation about clemson dating back
to the day last season ended, was this defense is

(45:54):
going to be elite, but if they don't get improved
quarterback play, none of it is gonna matter. Um, the
defense was not elite today, but wake forest is a
very good offensive team. Could I not argue that to
win a game like that, to have your starting quarterback
with the confidence of throwing for almost four yards and
five touchdowns and your team needed everything? This isn't five

(46:16):
you know four yards and five touchdowns against Furman. It's
not Boston College, it's not Um you know Louisville. This
is a game where you needed every single one of
those points and you do not get the win if
you do not get every single one of those points
in yards. I don't even know that I fully believe it,
but I do think you could make the argument that that,

(46:36):
while Dabbo certainly doesn't want to give up forty five
points in a million yards, the offense is really good.
It wasn't an outlier performance by wake forrest and the
offense came to play for Clemson in a way that
I don't think any of us knew if they were
actually capable of or not. Yeah, the only thing that
I would say. I like the idea and I like

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what you're like where your mind is. The only thing
I would say is waste defense is not very good,
hasn't been for the last couple of years. That said,
you winning the game with your weakness instead of your
strength is always going to be a positive to take away.
If for nothing else, that offense probably has some confidence now,
even though it was waskes defense. It wasn't like you

(47:19):
were playing against one of the greatest defenses in the country.
If they had one of the great defenses, then they
might be the best team in the country because of
what they can do offensively and what they've done for
the last couple of years. But they gave up a
ton of points last year. They give a ton of
points this year, but clemson could score gets almost anybody.
Last year they weren't putting up points against anybody. So
you take this on the road in that scenario where,

(47:41):
if you're the offense for Clemson, you have to assume
that the defense can't be counted on to get you
a stop, not against that offense, not against that quarterback,
not against everything that you had seen even during the game.
You won a shootout against a team that is built
to win shoot doubts. That, to me is impressive. That,

(48:02):
to me, is impressive as well. Clemson does get the win,
it will get interesting for Clemson they have coming up.
They have an NC state next week. NC State, of course,
it's easy to forget, is ranked in the top fifteen nationally.
They've improved, or they are in the process of improving,
to four and oh or they just closed out of victory,
hard fought over the University Connecticut. And then two weeks

(48:24):
after that Clemson goes to Florida state, which I think
people forget. Like like, I was actually surprised as I
was prepping the show today. So Florida State, as we were,
as we are on air here, is up forty four
to seven against Boston College. They're about to close out
that win, I think because because lsu whatever. Let me

(48:45):
just put it this away. I was surprised that Florida
state is not ranked. Like when I was just going
through notes and get ready for the show, Florida state's
about to be four. No I'm a little bit surprised
that they weren't ranked. Obviously had that that that win
over Lsu to open the season, but those are clemsons.
Two of their next three N C stayed at home
Florida state, which I suspect will be ranked come tomorrow.
So the road does get a little bit tougher for

(49:06):
Clemson Jason Martin after after today. Yeah, but they have
a hundred and seven votes in the coach's poll and
eighty five they were second. Really like Michigan State had
more votes than them on one side and Pittsburgh had
more votes than them on the other side. Yeah, I
think they'll be ranked this year this week. NC states solid.
They've got a really good quarterback. They've got a much
better defense than does wake. For us, Um that's a test,

(49:29):
that's a challenge and we knew it was gonna be
a challenge going into the year because Doran has done
an outstanding job. They've done a great job at bringing
in good offensive Lineman that can play on Sundays and
they've had a few quarterbacks in a row and leary
can flat out sling it. So we will see. We
will see Clemson's defense is gonna have to be as
advertised at some point, because I still don't think you

(49:52):
can count on Clemson's offense to give you forty plus
points on a weekly basis. This could be maybe we
look back at this and say this is when the
offense really grew up and then they just went on
a tear for the rest of the year. You'RE gonna
find out how good Clemson is in that NC state game.
That's how you're that's when you're gonna find out whether
or not there for real or whether or not number

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five might as well be number twenty. Well, and that's
why it's it's tough for me because I don't know
how to react to Dj today, because I think it's
easy to sit there and say, Oh, you know, he's
finally figured it out and he showed the flashes two
years ago, but he was really bad last year. I mean,
let's not forget week one against Georgia Tech, that Monday
night game. Nineteen of thirty two passing, UH, one touchdown

(50:33):
in that game, and so uh, you know, even last week,
seventeen of twenty nine two touchdowns. So it's not as
though he has been lights out at any point other
than today. But but you know, it's it's an interesting
one and I will say you know, if they get
even like B plus quarterback play out of him, Um,
I don't think the defense is going to face a

(50:54):
better offense until probably the College Football playoff, frankly, um.
So I just think that that if you can get
even a b plus effort from Dj, I do think
you're gonna be okay. Clemson improves to four and oh,
as we said, a top twenty five showdown with NC
state next week. Tell you what, Jason, we will. Uh.
I want to come back and we will. We should

(51:16):
have just about a final in this Oklahoma Game. Kansas
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radio APP presented by Bet Mgm Jason Uh. It looks
as though nothing's officially yet, but I think we're about
to have a top ten upset here in our time
Slot Kansas state. Since we last went off fair Adrian
Martinez sprints down the length of the field punches it
in Kansas State up forty one to twenty seven on Oklahoma.

(52:23):
Oklahoma is driving, but there's just a minute left in
Oklahoma is gonna need a prayer and a miracle to
pull out pull off this one. Here. Third and sixteen
and Somehow Martinez rents for like sixty yards. They have
five hundred and ten yards of offense against Oklahoma tonight.
Does Kansas State doing? Gabriel's look good? He's about the potential.

(52:43):
I mean he's got three touchdowns, he hasn't have many
incompletions in the game and he's played well here down
the stretch. They found themselves down multiple scores with one
time out, which means even if they score, they're gonna
have to get the on side now. We've seen it
on side already today where Florida had their opportunity against
ten to see. But Kansas State seems to be nutting
up a little bit when it comes to just making

(53:04):
sure that all these yards are difficult and they're trying
to keep them in bounds as well. So you're right,
like Kansas State's certainly right now in the driver's seat.
And again, probably the most telling thing, outside of not
being able to stop Martinez on the ground and the
fact that Kansas State has two hundred and seventy six
rush yards, is eleven penalties for Oklahoma, at least three
or four that I've seen in the second half a

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loon that have extended drives that otherwise might have been killed.
And now you've got one sixteen left from a pretty
big upset. So let's let's just talk big picture here because, Um,
you know, a loss at this juncture of the season
doesn't mean anything, right. I mean any team, you know,
if you have that one loss, can come back. But
I will say, Um, obviously it puts you pretty far

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behind the eight ball, Um, as far as what what
you could do. Obviously Oklahoma essentially would probably history tells
us need to win out from here. Um, just in general,
do you think that there is a top tier right?
I mean Ohio state looked awesome today. Georgia, for the
most part, has looked awesome. Alabama really, I don't think
we've really seen them in anywhere except Texas, where they

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actually did struggle for most of that game and, as
we said, probably would not have one if it weren't
for Quinn Yours, I assume. Do you have that as
pretty you're pretty definitive top three? And then what would
that next tier be? Because, you know, Oklahoma looks like
they're on the brink of losing. Clemson could have lost today.
Michigan did not look great. We haven't even talked about
them yet. Um, it feels like after that top three,

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and I will now include Ohio State, I was I
wasn't totally sold on them coming into the year. It
feels like this thing is pretty wide open. Yeah, and look,
those are the three that when we were doing our
preseason predictions in our four um I said there were
three teams and then I didn't know after that. And
guess what? That's exactly how I feel right now. George
is the best stay in the country. I like Ohio
state a little bit more than I like Alabama right

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this second, I think, but even that I even waver
thinking about that. Um and original like super impressive today,
but I honestly don't care. Like I mean, they still
want a game by seventeen and it might have been
hard to get up for Kent's state. Quite frankly, Um,
all of them are gonna have their opportunities to stumble
going forward. I think it's trying to figure out four.
That's where we've got some issues. Now. We need to

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see what happens with SC in this Oregon State game
as that one goes down, but it looks like Oklahoma
might be out of the running for this. And then
you start looking at Michigan and Clemson and outside of
that I don't know that there's anybody else that I
would even come close to making a case for. And
I don't think that whoever that number four team is
stacks up at all. I think there's a clear, definitive
top tier and maybe there's an entire building with those

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three teams, and then down the street there's a couple
of like, I don't know, double wides for whoever number
four is. So really quickly Michigan. UH, they they do
beat Maryland thirty four to twenty seven today. Um, I
felt like for a big part of that game Maryland
had Michigan on its heels. UH, Maryland fumbles the opening kickoff.
Michigan scores a few seconds into the game. After that

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it was, by definition, a a you know, a back
and forth, essentially a tie ball game. Um, Michigan did
officially make the change that starting quarterback, J J McCarthy.
If you if you just look at the box score,
J j McCarthy Eighteen of twenty six, two touchdown passes.
I thought he looked a little bit overwhelms not the

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right word, but he missed some passes. He had some
weird Um, you know, some weird uh, you know, held
the ball on too long in the in the you know,
in the pocket. Michigan wins, but you know, they dominate
the first three games and I know the competition was bad,
but I think coming out of this one, you know,
a big tent opener at home, obviously things are only
gonna get tougher from here. I am not sold on

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Michigan the way that I was even a week ago. No, look,
it's rints repeat with them. It's exactly the same thing
that I've felt about them for five years. Who was
the quarterback? Like McCarthy? Is Decent, he's pretty good, but
today you certainly saw you're not looking at bryce young,
you're not looking at C J Stroud, you're not looking
at one of those guys. What did they do last year?
Really effectively. They played defense and they were in the ball.

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Haskins was a beast. Well, Korham ran for two hundred
and forty three yards and two touchdowns today, which is
the most for anybody wearing a Michigan uniform since Denard
Robinson did it over a decade ago. It's still a
team that runs the ball and plays defense. Can that
win in the big ten? Yeah, we've seen it because
they made it to the College Football playoff last year

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and mcnamarall was again. Mcnamaryll was good, but he certainly
was not elite, and I think McCarthy might be a
little better than McNamara. That's how he's gotten the job
over McNamara. But at the same time I still think
it's gonna be the defense and it's gonna be the
running game and it's gonna be that way. And Look,
they're going to cannic next week. They're playing at Iowa,

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which and we'll talk to Bernie later on in the show.
Who knows Bernie Freda, who knows Michigan really well and
knows that conference really well. That's been a horror show,
if I'm not mistaking for Michigan going to iole uh,
that's that's just not a fun place to play. That's
gonna be an ugly slog kind of game. That's where
you're gonna find out a lot about J j McCarthy

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and what this past attack can do with Michigan, because
I'm very, very it's very incomplete for me how I
feel about Michigan and certainly the past game of the
quarterback is the lead charge of we talked about how
this whole gimmick deal where you were letting all letting
both guys play to figure out who could play and
all this other stuff. Pick a guy because you're kind

(58:29):
of giving away that neither one of these two guys
is particularly special. Well, and now you're kind of in
your backs against the wall and mcnambre apparently got hurt
last week and so he might not even be available.
But you know, you you benched a guy that won
you the big ten to go with the higher upside
guy and it's like, well, now it's kind of gotta
work out. I mean in theory it appears you can

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go back to it. By the way, Oklahoma has scored
a touchdown with thirty five seconds left, cut the lead
forty one to twenty. Thirty three extra point pending. Excuse me.
So we will see an on side kick. Obviously Oklahoma
will need to get the ball back. But with with Michigan,
it is funny right because I mean, I mean I'm
sure there's plenty of scenarios like this and I just

(59:12):
can't remember them. But I mean the Kate mcmare literally
brings you the best season in this century, I mean
literally twenty years. And you know, since the turn of
the century, ninety seven, I think, was the last time
they had won a big tension or not, the last
time they had, you know, had this kind of level
of success. And you know, you kind of leave it
open all spring and you kind of leave it open

(59:33):
all summer and you know, I listen, I get it's football,
I get its sports. You know it's competition. You don't
just hand things to people, but to to actively give
away the starting quarterback job, uh to uh, you know,
to the higher upside guy when you have a guy
that just one of the big it's one thing if
you went nine at three and you lost to Ohio State. Again,
it's another thing you're coming off the best season in

(59:55):
program history. So again don't want to overreact to one game.
Trying to kind of keep it all in per sspective
with all of these games, not just Michigan, but you know,
it makes it that much tougher now to go back
to the bench because then you're in you know, you're
in a pickle with McCarthy. So I'll also say this
to Jason, is that it does kind of speak to
the craziness of kind of the world of college football

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that we live in with this transfer portal, because you
know you're trying to keep everybody happy. You don't want
anybody to transfer you this. That the other thing, and
I'm not saying that either one of those guys definitively
would or will, but you have to wonder if that
was a little bit of a factor as well, trying
to keep both of them happy early so neither of
them wants to leave in the off season and then
next thing you know, you maybe have a situation where

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where you know you picked the wrong guy for when
it matters most. Yeah, it just seems like you're still
gonna have somebody leave, though. It just it's what are
you doing? You're kicking a can down the road, but
what are you effectively pulling off here? I'm not sure
you're pulling off anything. And why do you care? If
the guy that, if the guy is not as good
as the one that you want at quarterback, then you're
taking him. So you've got a what elite back up like.

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Clearly that guy is not the one that you want
going forward. He's not the one that you want in
your future. He's the Britat glass in case of emergency quarterback.
So at that point still make your decision because, whether
he transfers in week one or week six, you would
anticipate when a guy knows the job is not his
and he still wants to play. Because of the way

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everything is set up in college football, that can happen
pretty much instantaneously at any point. So Oklahoma did line
up for an on side kick. It is recovered by
Kansas State and it does appear as though we will
have a top ten upset. Kansas state up forty one
to thirty four on Oklahoma. All they gotta do is

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take one knee and this game is over. The headset
is already being handed to the assistant coach by head
coach Chris Klemen. We're gonna come back react to that,
but before we do, for the second time this evening,
let's get to Steve to Sega with what's trending, what's
up to sea and the key play in this game
occurred with two and a half minutes to go, the
third and sixteen run by K state quarterback Adrian Martinez

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X of Nebraska, which means he lost a lot of
close games in his career, not this one. He runs
on Fox TV on third and sixteen at Oklahoma. Didn't
have time to throw it down the field. He runs instead.
Martinez has the first town tree and Martinez real effort

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tonight for Kansas States. Here it is our new kidding
really quick. Credit to the guys in the back for
getting us that sound right away. Thank you to the
guys in the back. Go ahead to say that that's
really good stuff and so that is a final. Now
officially Kansas State Forty one thirty four the win at
sixth ranked Oklahoma Martinez with a touchdown pass and on

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the ground. Four TVs twenty one carries, a hundred, forty
eight yards rushing for the winning quarterback. Meanwhile, USC's quarterback,
is he gonna be the winning quarterback tonight? SC ranks
seventh in country, is still trailing seven three at Oregon
state early in the third quarter. Trojan's QB, Caleb Williams,
just six of nineteen passing sixty four yards. Now first

(01:03:11):
downs are even in this game. Total yardage about even,
but the trojans just don't have the time of possession
to get anything going and no touchdowns yet and they're
down seven three at three and Oh Oregon state in
the third. Wyoming is leading ten seven at Nineteen Rank
B Y U, late second quarter. Currently thirteenth ranked Utah's

(01:03:31):
up fourteen nothing at Arizona state in the second and
on fs one it's already Washington, ranked eighteenth, leading ten
nothing against Stanford. Early second quarter. Wins in the top
ten for Georgia and Alabama, for Ohio State in Michigan
and for fifth rank Clemson, which one in two overtimes
at wake forest. Fifty one, Forty Five, Kentucky and Tennessee

(01:03:52):
with wins Texas A and M A winner in Arlington,
Texas tonight, beating number ten Arkansas. Twenty one is Arkansas
barely ust to late field goal. Oregon came back to
win at Washington state. Texas tech in overtime, beat Texas middle.
Tennessee was a winner at Miami, forty five to thirty one.
Buffalo Bill Safety Micah Hyde is out for the year

(01:04:12):
with a neck injury. Titans left tackle Taylor Lauan out
for the year with a knee injury. In Major League Baseball,
the Yankees won their sixth straight game. Seven five over Boston.
Aaron judge went over three, Atlanta one, and the mets lost.
The braves are just a game and a half back
of the first place mets in the NL East, just
over a week left in the regular season. Cleveland won

(01:04:33):
at six in a row. Houston has just won. The
Houston Astros were eleven ten winners at Baltimore. The stros
now one hundred and fifty three on the season, and
that's not good news for the Orioles. There now four
games out of the final Ale wild card spot behind
the mariners, who won, and the MS gave picture Louise
Castillo a five year extension back to you. Thank you,

(01:04:55):
Steve Seger. This is Fox sports radio, Fox sports Saturday
errand towards Jason Martin, coming to you from the tire
AC DOT COM studios. Really quickly, Jason, let's just put
a bow on this Oklahoma Kansas state game. For people
who just missed the Sager's update, Kansas State does pull
off the upset, forty one to thirty four, beating the
sixth ranked Oklahoma sooners, as the saga also just told you,

(01:05:16):
incredible game for the much maligned Adrian Martinez, former Nebraska quarterback.
Hundred forty eight yards rushing, four touchdowns, another touchdown passing.
He accounted alone for close to four hundred yards of
total offense when you include the rushing offense and the
passing offense. Jason, really quick. First of all, I think
we're all happy for Adrian Martinez. It was a tough

(01:05:37):
career at Nebraska. Um, you know, did not work out well.
But then, on top of that, Jason, Oklahoma takes the
loss and I'll tell you, Um, this was a team
that that Arnie and I really in this time. Thought
last week when you were sick, we're singing their praises.
Are they up there in the top of the sport,
you know, as far as elite teams that can compete
at the highest level? They did not look at tonight,

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and I'll add this I'm a little surprised by the
effort of the defense after looking so good just a
week ago against Nebraska. Again, NEBRASKA CAN'T STAY UTAH. Look,
you you ran into someone who first off very much
in Martinez, not to mention Kansas State. Is Not a
big fan of Oklahoma either, but he even saw his

(01:06:20):
old mates get trounced last week. And Kansas State again,
was a team that coming into the season some people
were very, very high on and then they had that
inexplicable loss to Tu Lane last week, which I think
took the luster off of this matchup. But let's look
at the rest of Oklahoma schedule. You've got at TCU
coming up next week. Then you've got the Texas game which, unfortunately,

(01:06:45):
yours is not going to be there. So that's not
gonna be I don't think he is. Do you think
he could be back by then well, he dressed for
the game today. So I mean so I don't I
wouldn't play him now. I certainly wouldn't play him until
that game. That's what I was gonna say, is the
fact that he was even dressed and in theory ready
for today. I would have been stunned if they brought

(01:07:05):
him back. But but that leads me to believe that
he might be ready for that game. Jason, okay, if
he is, then that's gonna be a whale of a game.
Then you got Kansas, the undefeated Jayhawks, Kansas and Kansas
State winning today, Um, Iowa state, and then you've got Baylor,
who's got one loss, Oklahoma state, they're always gonna be
tough late in the year, Texas Tech, who beat Texas today,

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West Virginia, who's kind of up and down. But I
do think you're in a scenario if you're Oklahoma, and
you mentioned this earlier, Aaron, you're gonna have to win
out from here or you're not going to be a
part of the discussion when it comes to the College
Football playoff. This is the loss, okay. This is the
one that maybe you overcome if you win the conference
and you see some kind of carnage take place in

(01:07:47):
a few of these conferences where you could have seen
multiple bids. But you have put yourself in a scenario
where I'd no longer believe you necessarily control your own destiny.
If you're Oklahoma and you go undefeated, you're getting into
the College Football playoff, but once you've lost one, now
I think you're gonna need some help, not to mention
you can't have another blemish for the rest of the year. Yeah,
now that you know, you look at the schedule and

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you mentioned some of the early games and I think
some of the concern would be with some of the
early games is that even like the Kent State Game,
if you watch that game or not, even if you
didn't watch the game, if you just followed it, they
were up seven three at halftime. So so this offense
has gone through lolls. This defense did not look good
today and you know, again this was a team that
Arnie Spanier and I were singing their praises just a
week ago. I think if I had to project right now,

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I find it very hard to believe that they're going
to actually go through this schedule with just one loss. Uh,
you know, and and and, you know, compete for a playoff.
Berth Um, you know, first of all, TC was undefeated.
They play them next week. But Texas, if Quinn Yours
is back, we saw what they're capable of. Kansas certainly
is in a walkover. Iowa state at Iowa state is
tough to play. Baylor's ranked. Oklahoma state is a very

(01:08:54):
good team that beat Oklahoma last year. So, Um, you know,
I I know it seems silly for know, for people
who who don't follow college football regularly or whatever. For
people who are listening to us are saying, why are
you overreacting after one loss? It's because it's not overreacting,
it's because this is what makes college football, especially in
its current iteration, pre twelve team playoff. That's what makes

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the sports so fascinating. Is You can't have it off night.
You can't have a bad night, especially this early in
the year, especially against the team that you should beat,
because it puts you behind the eight ball all year.
And so when I look at this Oklahoma Team and,
more importantly, when I look at what's left on the schedule,
if I had to venture guests, Um, I would venture
to say I find it hard to believe that with

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the ebbs and flows, the ups and downs that they
have already had this season, I find it hard to
believe that they'll make it through the schedule undefeated and
and be in position late in the year to make
the playoff. Yeah, to see, I agree with you. I mean,
I don't look at that schedule and say I think
Oklahoma is going to run the table from here on.
I think you could easily lose to Texas and I
think you probably will lose to either Baylor or Oklahoma state. Okay,

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so let's say you get by Texas and you lose, though,
to either your in state rival or Baylor and Randa's
awesome program. Those are I mean, those are both good losses.
Problem is, you can afford the good loss, you can
afford the ranked loss, all that kind of stuff in
a close ball game, but you can't afford it after

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you've already handed away all your free cash tonight. That's
your issue is now that you've lost to Kansas State.
I don't care if Oklahoma state's top five and Baylor's
top seven by the time you play them, you still
gotta beat them or you've got two losses in a
conference that's not the SEC and unfortunately for you, you're
not there yet. If you were too lost in the SEC,
maybe we'd have a different discussion. I don't think it

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will be that way in the SEC either, but that's
the only conference where you can sustain that and overcome it.
That that's bad news for Oklahoma. They are now on
an uphill climb. We should mention, by the way, Oklahoma's
former head coach, Lincoln Riley. They're down seven three at
Oregon State and I'll tell you just punting the ball.

(01:11:01):
I'm watching it. Oh Are you? You gotta keep us
updated here in Fox Sports Radio Studios. We don't get
the pack twelve network. Caleb Williams struggling nine of twenty
three passing a hundred thirteen yards. UH The the the the
run game is very effective and the USC's credit. On defense,
they did force yet another turnover. They came into the
game leading in turnover margin. For those of us who

(01:11:21):
can't watch it, Jason, I know you've been flipping back
and forth. What what are your early impressions? What is
what is wrong with SC here? Against Oregon State? They
just don't seem to be able to get into any
kind of rhythm. Like Caleb Williams has had a couple
of really brilliant moments where he's been able to will
something out of nothing. It feels like like the Big
Bang or something like that, on a third down and

(01:11:42):
keep a drive alive, and he's he's done some of
the things that you expect at Caleb Williams to do
in a game like this. But I'm looking at the
environment now. Obviously I'm watching it on mute because we're
hosting a radio program the environment. They look lit and
the team on the field looks lit as well, like
they are it hard. And one thing that you're seeing,
and you hadn't seen this to this point for SC

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this season due to wrapping up and making tackles wearing
Oregon state uniforms like they are not allowing too much escapability,
at least in in what I've been able to see
thus far. So with, you know, four and a half
minutes or so left in the third that got the
lead and they just got the ball back. It's inside
their own five. So here's the spot where you talk
about USC and turnover differential. This is where you want

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to lure Oregon state into doing something foolish where you
can take a maybe a pick six or certainly a
short field and handed back to Kayla Williams, who, by
the way, through a pass in his own inside his
own twenty about two minutes ago and that thing was
deflected into the air and was nearly picked off and
run into the end zone. So this is a Game

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Oregon State team that showed up not really caring who
was on the other side. They're here to win. This
is Fox sports radio errant towards Jason Martin, coming live
from the entire rack dot com studios. Coming up, there
is one other game I want to talk about featuring
two unranked teams that we more normally want to get to,
but I do think there were some interesting things that

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came out of it. We'll discuss that next keep you
updated on these late games and, of course, get you
ready for next week, next tomorrow I should say, in
the NFL. Aeron towards Jason Martin. This is Fox sports tredio.
Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio Aeron towards Jason Martin
company live from the Ti Iraq dot com studios. We
are almost through the eleven pm eastern time. Our taking

(01:13:33):
you up to midnight some college football on the West Coast.
Several ranked teams still playing. Washington up seventeen nothing on Stanford,
Utah up seventeen three on Arizona state. Both of those
games are late in the fourth quarter. B Y U also,
by the way, late fourth quarter, late, late second quarter,
I should say. Uh B Y U is up thirteen

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to ten. And US see the Trojans in the third quarter,
down seven three to the Rigan state beavers. Will keep
you posted on that one. You know, Jason, it's not
often that in this time saw with everything that goes
on in college football, that we talked about a pair
of unranked teams. But there was a game for two
different reasons, that I think we should hit on very

(01:14:15):
quickly here to end our two and that was Minnesota,
the fight in PJ flex row the boat going to
Michigan State and winning thirty four to seven, and I
want to talk about it for two reasons. One, I
think everybody doesn't really like P J fleck because he
does all the weird sayings and everyone thinks he's a
phony and oh my goodness he's Blah Blah, blah, blah,

(01:14:36):
this and that. But then also, Jason Michigan State's two
and two and Melt Tucker is four and three overall
since signing a ninety five million dollar guaranteed contract. Jason Martin,
you mentioned Bertie Fratty. You mentioned he's from Michigan. That
is one question that I will be asking him when
we get into our four. You think there's any buyer's

(01:14:57):
remorse on Melt Tucker's ninety five million dollar a contract
right now? We kind of looked at this, look good
for him, first of all. Like Melt Tucker seems to
be a really likable guy and he's done good things
with that program. But even at the time you kind
of looked at it and said, wait, did you just
pay him because he beat one team, because it felt

(01:15:20):
like one win all of a sudden elevated Melt Tucker
into a new stratosphere. I'm not surprised at all by this.
I'm really not. Like they're now two and two. They've
lost him back to back weeks. Washington is better than
we thought they were gonna be. I do think that's true,
but not just losing to Minnesota, getting drupped by Minnesota

(01:15:40):
thirty four to seven. Then you start to look at
and you say how much of what Michigan State did
last year was Kenneth Walker really like, I mean, I
mean think about their quarter how many quarterbacks in the
history of Michigan State can you name? Not many. There's
a few, Um, you know, Kirk cousins, there's a couple,
but generally speaking it was all Kenneth Walker last year

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and of course they played pretty good defense also. But
Melt Tucker is one of those guys and there are
a handful of them, maybe even more than a handful
of them, where it seems like they get these extensions
and these giant contracts and it's just like for what, like,
what has he exactly accomplished at this point to necessitate
ninety plus million dollars? More power to him, because someone

(01:16:24):
was willing to pay him that, but I'm not surprised
at this point that it has not gone to an
undefeated Michigan State team that's sitting in the top five.
That didn't seem to be in the cards. It seemed
to be a pay based on what he had done
in a short amount of time and in a short
kind of window, but really wasn't indicative of where that

(01:16:47):
program was going to be going forward. And two and two,
and with all that money on the line, probably a
lot of Michigan state fans right now are kind of
side eyeing. Yeah, it's it's one of those it is
you know, it's it makes for a great topic on
a day like today, but it is also context does
matter and, Um, you know, first of all, it was
one of those really where it felt like to me

(01:17:08):
at the time, like the cliche. Two things can be true,
like did he deserve? Of course, first of all, does
any coach deserve ninety five? Who knows? This is the
world that we live in. But you had some high
profile jobs open up. He had ties to Lsu from
his early coaching days. was He ever really a candidate
L S U? Only a handful of people know, but

(01:17:29):
you certainly don't want to lose them, especially with the
history of obviously Michigan state losing a really good coach
to l s u a million years ago, named Nick Sabans.
So you understood why it happened. But at the same
time I looked it up and and here it was
melt Tucker's resume to that point. Five and seven in
one year in Colorado. Okay, it's Colorado whatever. Two and
five during the covid year. Okay, whatever they were at

(01:17:51):
the time, nine and one when he got that extension.
They did not play Ohio state at that point and
got destroyed by Ohio State. But you know, you get
why the contract was handed out. It didn't have to
be ninety million, I don't know, but you had to
give him a number where he isn't even gonna consider
going anywhere else, and so it's a tough deal. But
it is exactly what you said, Jason. They had a

(01:18:12):
a super dynamic running back that they sort of kind
of lucked into in the transfer portal. Um, it was
a situation where you go back to last year, they
won a lot of close games at home. Um, you know,
where a lot of things went their way. I think
this the stat was four wins by six points or less,
three wins by three points or less. Uh, and a
bunch of three of the four games were at home,

(01:18:35):
and so they were probably realistically closer to Uh. They
finished the regular season ten and two. They're probably closer
to like an eight and four team. And then even
if you're in four, is that? You know, do you
give the money that that you were willing to give up.
So it's a crazy deal. Um, we'll talk to Bernie
about an hour. Four. I don't think you can yet
have buyers remorse and and and you know, the alternative

(01:18:57):
was you potentially lose a coach that's winning you eleven games,
UH in year two. And so I kind of understand
it from that perspective really quickly. What what is your
stance on Fleck, because I'll just say this, man, you know,
the guy gets so much flak because of again, he's different,
he says weird stuff, he's super you know whatever. But
then at the same time, eleven wins in nine wins

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last year, four and oh this year, and in a
weird big ten west where Wisconsin doesn't look good, Iowa
doesn't look good, that's a team that could be playing
for a big ten championship in Indianapolis. By the way, quickly.
Travis died just ran it in on fourth down and
SC took the lead with fourteen eighteen left in the fourth.
That was a that was a drive. That that was tough.

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That's why they went forward on fourth down, I think,
instead of well, other than the fact that if you
kicked the field goal, you're still down one, but guess what?
That's more points off of turnover for USC they now
have sixty six points on the season off of turnover.
So we'll keep an eye on that as we go forward. UH,
in terms of Fleck real quickly. I'm not down with

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cliche stuff. It makes me roll my eyes, gives me
a headache, makes me need to grab some a leave
or something out of that. But at the same time,
those records at Minnesota. If I'm a Minnesota alum or
something like that, I'm over the moon about P J flex.
I understand why you would like him, because you shouldn't
be able to do what he's been able to do
with Minnesota. I don't care if it's cliches or not.

(01:20:23):
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Weird Ish Day in college football. I guess in theory

(01:21:05):
the big story was probably Oklahoma losing. Number six ranked Oklahoma,
the Siger just told you, fell forty one to thirty
four to Kansas State. Jason, we just spent a ton
of time talking about this. If anybody missed it, go
back and check out the PODCAST. I don't know what
else to say. You know, Oklahoma was weird early. They
had weird lulls in their first two games, which were

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largely dominant wins, but but you know, struggled offensively in
one game, struggled defensively another game. Then they look so
good against Nebraska last week and then tonight at home
give up five nine yards of total law offense. Adrian Martinez,
the former Nebraska quarterback, hundred forty eight yards rushing, two
d thirty four yards passing five total touchdowns. Oklahoma season

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is far from over, but with Oklahoma state still on
the schedule, Baylor still on the schedule, a Kansas team
that looks interesting and of course Texas could have Quinn
youers back by the time they play. All of a
sudden it appears as though, in my opinion, that Oklahoma
season is on the brink. Yeah, I think that's the
right way to put it. Certainly they could run the table.

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They're talented enough to run the table. I don't think
either one of US feels particularly bullish on their ability
to actually do it, though. It's it's a we can
in theory discuss it, but they're gonna have to go
on the field and beat, as you said, a top
twenty Baylor team, a top ten ranked right now Oklahoma
state team that always gives them a game, even when

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they're not good, and they've been good for a long
time under gundy. And then Texas, who may have Quinn
your's back, and if they do, I might favorite Texas
in that matchup. That, I think season on the brink
is the right way to put it. Like, if they
lose another game, then the season is over. If by
the season being over you mean national championship, I don't
think you can do it at that point. Well, and

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it's funny because for all the flat that Lincoln Riley got,
by the way, USC is only up ten seven in
the fourth quarter, as the say you're just told. But
you know, you could kind of get a sense that that.
You know there was some friction between Lincoln Riley and
the fan base by the end of last year, even
before he left for USC but you know, this was
a program that obviously made three straight college football playoffs

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and then on top of that last year, I mean
they started the season nine and O. I mean I
think it's easy to forget that because they went one
and two in their final, UH, three games and they
lose to Oklahoma state on the final day of the
regular season. They lose a chance to win the big twelve.
Lincoln Riley leaves the next day. But like he had
them in the playoff conversation deep into last year, even

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if there were some real clear kind of holes and
problems with that team. And so Oklahoma obviously, as we
just said, uh, you know, season isn't on the brink,
but I do think the honeymoon is largely over for
Brent Venables loses at home as close to a two
touchdown favorite. One team that did not lose at home
by any stretch of the imagination. That was, of course,

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the Ohio State, Buckazz. I mean, if you're looking for
maybe a lead story out of today, yes, Oklahoma losing
is huge. I do think Ohio State, fifty two to
twenty one, putting up fifty two points on a team
that was allowing an average of Eight, eight points allowed
per game early and I know the competition wasn't good,
but they were the number one ranked defense last year.

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Wisconsin is limited offensively, but the defense has been a
a strength of this program for years and it seems
to have really picked up over the last, you know,
year to three under Jim Leonard, the former NFL players
the defensive coordinator. Ohio state five hundred thirty nine yards
of total offense, six yards per carry and I think,

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most importantly, Jason, what you're seeing is a program that
last year it felt like they got a little bit soft.
Lost to Oregon at home, got pushed around. Definitely got
pushed around by Michigan. Ohio state five thirty nine yards
of total offense, two fifty eight yards rushing. I know
Wisconsin is limited, but I off this was a statement

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game for the Ohio State Book. It was, even though
anytime you beat Wisconsin I'm not as impressed by it.
As many others are. But it's a conference win. It's
a win by, you know, thirty points and it wasn't
even that close. It is a well coached Wisconsin team.
They always play hard. It can be a nuisance kind
of game and Ohio state needed this kind of victory

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to sort of be a part of that separation. We're
starting to see kind of the cream separate right now,
like it's expired, like you need to throw it out
because you're seeing it in the coffee and there's like three,
there's three kind of bubbles right now. There's Alabama, there's
Ohio state and there's Georgia. And Ohio state state their
claim to officially be there tonight, not because Wisconsin is

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like beating a top five opponent, but you dropped the
conference opponent. That is a a legit school like. That's
a win, that's one that actually matters. That is a
much more impressive win at this stage, certainly than the
Notre Dame win, which has been summarily disvalued over the
last two weeks. What about Texas A and and M Arkansas?
So so that one was a wild one. Texas A

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and M of course, you know, you talk about season
on the brink. They lose. Two weeks to go to
APP state. Um, you know, everybody appears to be turning
on Jimbo Fisher. And the last two weeks, you know,
back to back wins over ranked opponents. Now last week
they beat Miami. Miami loses today to Middle Tennessee, so
maybe that one doesn't look as good. And this one
with Arkansas easily could have gone the other way. Arkansas

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actually did out game Texas A and M UH and
Arkansas missed a late field goal that literally hit the
top of the upright. Kicked it up, went came down,
hits the top of the upright, falls no good. That
is how Texas A and M wins. You know, football,
I guess, is a game of inches sometimes, just like baseball,
and Texas A and M gets to win. And and

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you know, I guess what I would say from that game,
as weird as it sounds, and and and I don't
want to dismiss the fact that, to say a M
did lose to APP state. Jimbo Fisher is a nine
and a half million dollar a year coach. And you
can't do that when you lose. When, when? When you
you can't do that when you're nine, nine when you're
making that much money. But I bring it up to

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say the quarterback is at the very least statistically he's
not great, but he has steadied this team. Um, they
the offense or the defense, excuse me, was really good
after the first quarter? Arkansas fans will tell you they
they lost that game. Texas A and M didn't win it.
But man, Texas A and M has back to back
wins over ranked teams and all of a sudden you

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look at that schedule that looks so daunting just a
few weeks ago. Florida doesn't look as good as we thought.
LSU was obviously up and down. Auburn might not even
have a coach by the time that uh, by the
time that they play Texas A and M. I'm not
saying we need to forgive the APP state game, but
all of a sudden this team is back on track
to potentially be that nine win team, ten win team
that we thought coming into the season. Yeah, I think

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nine ten wins is probably about right. Credit to Jimbo
for not being stubborn and making the move that he
had to make. The problem, though, is you can't figure
out who qb one is on the field because of
bad performance, like you have to figure that out before
when you're making that kind of money. If I'm somebody
that's helping shell out that money or if I'm somebody

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that's an alumna down there and I care, I'm just wondering.
It's just like, dude, you gotta get this right from
day one, like you have to know who qb one
is before you guys suit up week one. The Michigan
thing notwithstanding, that was weird, and those opponents were obviously lessers,
but you would have thought the same thing about state
and you still found a way to lose that game.

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You had to know. And the thing that was weird
about it, and we even said this in the moment
when Haynes King was given the keys, it's like, wait,
I wasn't that impressed with him last year before he
got hurt. Like I understood will be heard about him,
but this wasn't like we saw what Quinn Yours did
against Alabama and now we completely understand why you would
want to roll with him. If you're Steve Sarkisian, this

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is like that dude didn't blow us away, then he
got hurt and then you're giving the ball to him.
And here's the thing. You look like a genius if
that works, but if not, you have idiots like me
second guessing you all night long, and that's what I've
been doing, because I'm watching Max Johnson and saying, how
did you watch this during the off season? How did

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you watch this during practice and during camp and not
recognize that this guy is much more a leader on
the field and much more equipped to win you games
the way you want to win them, which right now
seems to be him. Do enough, don't make big mistakes,
run the ball effectively with a chain and play defense.
By the way, I keep a score updated from earlier,

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unless you're seeing something else different, Jason, on your TV screen,
because I cannot get this in the Fox Sports Radio Studio.
USC Up ten to seven on Oregon State about fourteen
minutes left in the fourth quarter. Bunch yeah, but they're driving.
Oregon state right now is just outside the red zone.
It's a third and long after a bad penalty here,
but they're in field goal range already, so this game

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could be tied here in just a moment. It's funny
because that's another team that Arnie Spanier and I talked
about last week of I'm not saying it's gonna Happen,
but the path is there for that team to make
a real run, potentially to a playoff. I'm talking about
USC it sounds crazy. You're one lincoln, Riley, all that stuff,
but they don't play Oregon, they don't play Washington. Um,

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they do have to play Utah on the road. I
actually think U C L A is maybe a little
bit better than people realize. But you know, you talk
about just it would be certainly a very interesting dynamic
if USC were to lose on the same day that
Brent Venables in Oklahoma did. Um, I don't know, I'm
just you look at USC. That offense I thought was

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so potent, but all of a sudden maybe, you know,
maybe Stanford there with their big one a few weeks ago,
maybe it wasn't quite as good as we thought. Fresno state,
their quarterback got hurt. I don't know. I was impressed
by this USC team. Um, you know, I was impressed
by this USC team coming out of last week. I
thought they were ahead of schedule. Maybe I was a
little bit ahead of schedule in kind of crowding USC. Well,

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I mean I think that you knew that we were
going to see some really good things this year, but
you wondered if it was going to be consistent throughout
the season. And that's what you're seeing. You're seeing some
good stuff, but you already knew, uh yeah, the transfer
portal was gonna make this a more seamless transition, and
maybe that's why you take that job if you're Lincoln Riley.
But he's still got it's still a bit of a

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process for him. But I think the biggest thing tonight
is credit to Oregon State. Cayleb Williams is eleven of
twenty five hundred, twenty three yards, by the way. They
are lighting up for a forty six yard field goal
attempt and it is on the way and it is
wide right. So USC holds onto their three point lead.
With a thirty four left. USC holds onto their lead

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eight thirty four left. B Y U up fourteen to
ten over Wyoming. Washington cruising at halftime. Watching looks really
good here, and Utah up twenty four two six over
a s us. How about that? In the late window,
the pack, twelve after dark window, by the way, maybe
a testament to the fact that the pack twelve is
a little bit better than we want to give them
credit for. We have four ranked teams playing right now,

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including three from the pack twelve. We will keep you
updated on all of those. But coming up we switch gears.
Obviously week three of the NFL's coming up. A lot
of interesting stuff going on and I'm sure we're also
going to talk about the big story in the NBA
as well, emay a dooka suspended for a season. Plenty
more coming up. We'll keep you update on the college
football as well. This is Fox sports radio. Welcome back everybody,

(01:32:34):
Fox sports radio. Our three of four Aeron Torrest, Jason Martin.
Four ranked teams in college football are playing. The big score.
USC Holding on for Dear Life, up ten seven on
Oregon State. Midway through the fourth quarter. USC UP TEN
to seven. Jason, I want to get to the NFL,
but but before we do really quick I do want

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to get to what but frankly, turned into the a
story of the week in sports and Um, you know,
not a fun one to talk about, but you know
it's not. It's not always fun and games when it
comes to doing what we do. But it's obviously the
story of EMADOCA, the head coach Boston Celtics. By now
we all know the situation, but I think it was
Tuesday night, Wednesday night, something like that. Report comes out

(01:33:19):
that he could potentially be suspended for violation of of
organizational policy and nobody really knows. And then credit shops,
Trania from the athletic first reports, uh, a consensual relationship
with a CO worker. Um, and I'll just say this,
if it was just that simple, Um, I don't know
that I want to talk about it. But but why

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I want to talk about it, Jason, is because it
has been interesting to me to see the reaction of
people and and in some ways I do get it. Um,
you know, he has been suspended for a year. The
Celtics have a press conference yesterday where they say, Um,
that right now, uh, nothing has been finalized. So it
is a minimum of a one year susp mention, and

(01:34:00):
he could ultimately not return as the Celtics head coach.
But I have been a little bit surprised by some
of the reaction from people in our business, Um, that
have essentially said this is unfair, that he shouldn't be suspended, Um,
that it's a personal matter. Where do you stand? On
the email Doka story, suspended for one year as the
Boston Celtics head coach. I think that's a prime example

(01:34:21):
of why we should all stop before we start talking
when we don't know half of the story, because we've
seen multiple people step into it making social commentary or
just saying, Hey, I know this guy and there's information
I've got and I promise you all this kind of stuff.
Like no, there's a lot of stuff that we flat
out did not know and still don't know about this situation.

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When you hear consensual that makes you think that shouldn't
have gone public, but you realize it was a subordinate.
So you have one level of person and then you
have someone that's lower on the totem pole. Professionally. That's
not allowed and virtually any company in the country as
far as I'm concerned. But suspended for a year just
for that. I have no idea. There's probably a lot

(01:35:08):
more here. Matt Barnes had originally come out in favor
of Adoka and then backed off those comments. Yesterday apologized
and said this is one hundred this was his quote.
This is one hundred times uglier than we all thought.
I don't know what that means. But this whole thing
is it's sorted, but I think it's a it's a

(01:35:30):
it's a big time red flag. It should be for
everybody in our industry to just stop. There's no reason
to have a take on this until we know what's
going on. There's no reason to drag any of the
females into it, there's no reason to bury anybody until
we actually have some semblance to the reality of the situation.

(01:35:51):
I think a lot of people stepped in it that
didn't need to, because that's what our industry has unfortunately become.
I don't really know what to say about this right now, Aaron.
So I mean I kind of just went in around
about to get to the same point, which is I
still want to know exactly what happened here before I'm
willing to actually step out and talk about it more

(01:36:12):
than that. Yeah, it's it's a tough one, Um, and
a few things one. I do give credit to Brad
Stevens for saying something that you just referenced. Um. You know,
we can like and dislike certain elements of this story,
but people speculating on which female employee was with the
Boston Celtics and sharing pictures and names. Um, you know,

(01:36:33):
I'm not a Mr Moral High Horse Guy, but that
was pretty disgusting behavior and you know, I hate that
that it came down to that. And credit to Brad
Stevens for calling out the people who did that. So
that's one Um and to you know, it is interesting
because as much as we've learned, and it feels like
there's been a new layer every single day, it also
doesn't feel like we have all the facts. And even,

(01:36:54):
like you know, there was a report by the athletic
that hasn't really been picked up as much as I
would think it would be that in addition to their
maybe at one point being a consensual relationship, there were
some things that email Adoka said as a superior and
that's what it comes back to. For me. Is like
like I I I will say, you know, I'm not
often surprised by stuff that happens in our industry. I

(01:37:18):
am kind of surprised by people defending EMA Adoka from
the perspective that, as you said, what he did, he
is one of the most you know authority, you know,
high ranking officials in that organization Um, and no matter
what he did, it is a major hr violation, and
I understand it was consensual, but at the same time

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there is a reason that this is written into the
by laws. And, Oh, by the way, it's an organizational
policy that he knew. And what I found ironic about
all this conversation that has been had over the last
couple of days, email Adoka was the first one to
apologize and say my behavior was unacceptable. And so that's
the part that I don't get is why are people
defending email Doka and why are people calling for email

(01:38:02):
Adoka to keep his job or not be suspended at all,
when he readily admits I messed up, I broke policy,
I deserve whatever punishment that comes to me, and so
that's the disappointing part, is that, Um, I'm not saying
I'm perfect, I'm not saying I've never made a mistake
in my life, but Um, but at the same time,
this is something that every I think, male and female,

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that work in an office setting know about these policies,
know what's at stake and, independent of the fact that
he's obviously in a he has been in a long
term relationship with a very famous, uh, you know, fiance like,
this is the policy. We know what the rules are
in literally every company in the in the in the

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United States, and so I have zero sympathy for this
guy and whether it is the end for him in
Boston or not, it's like I just can't feel bad
when you know what's at stake, you know the rules.
You every company in America has the same policy and
you decided to break him anyway. I would say this,
and backing up everything that you just said. If he's

(01:39:06):
not going to try and defend himself, then what hell
are you trying to defend him like? What's the point
in that if he's actually stepping out? He's not asking
for your sympathy, so why are you granting them any?
Clearly he's in the wrong. Clearly he did something wrong.
He violated policy. Let me tell you what doesn't happen
very often. A dude that just took its team to

(01:39:28):
the NBA finals, that looks like one of the rising
superstars in coaching in American sports. You don't just suspend
that guy for a year on a whim. It's not
like this dude just finished a twenty win season with
the Boston Celtics. This was a team that was supposed
to contend again next year and will contend and you

(01:39:50):
still remove that guy from the situation. Something went wrong here.
I I agree with you. I don't know exactly why
I'm not. I don't believe blanket leave all women, because
women lie just like men lie. I believe all women
who are telling the truth. In this scenario. There's not
a side of the story being put out there. Like

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Udoka is being wrongfully accused here. He, as you mentioned,
apologize first. So I accept his apology, but I'm certainly
not defending the conduct. That makes no sense whatsoever. None whatsoever.
And Oh by the way, uh in a major development
in college football, Oregon State has just taken the lead,

(01:40:35):
fourteen to ten over USC four forty one left. It
is so funny, Jason, you myself bow. We prepared for
this show all week. We take very seriously what we
do and I brought up the fact. Well, you know
that the PAC twelve can't do anything right. I feel
bad because the PAC twelve is actually good. This year
we got a ranked Washington team on TV, of ranked

(01:40:56):
Utah Team on TV, of Rank B Y U team
on TV. This was not the weekend to put USC
on the pack. Twelve, network or maybe in theory it was.
Wait a second, if you're the higher ranked team, you
don't want to be on in our window. It seems
like right like everything that you just mentioned is taking
place during our time slot here on Saturday nights on
Fox sports radio, right here in this prime spot, like Oh,

(01:41:17):
you going down? USC is certainly on the ropes. They're
gonna have the opportunity to try and win this game,
but you're seeing some teams, some brand names, that aren't
responding well to being under the pressure of Torres and Martin. Oh,
I like that. I like that. So, so us. So
Caleb Williams being eleven for twenty eight right now as
a pastor, that he's just feeling the heat of. He

(01:41:38):
knows Taurres and Martin are gonna talk about him, good
or bad, depending on how this thing goes. That's exactly
what I'm saying. All Right, I'll tell you what. We'll
come back. We'll actually we probably won't have much time
to talk about that. We got some NFL to get to,
a mega showdown, obviously tomorrow and Tampa. We'll get to
the NFL before we do them. Well, I'm just keep
you updated on the USC and Oregon State. Speaking of updates,

(01:42:00):
let's get to our main man, Steve De segers. I
mean I I kind of just stole your thunder there.
It's breaking news. Yes, I'm speaking seriously. I have been
on shows where hosts speak as if nothing else is
going on right now. It's radio, we're live. If it
happens right now, feel free go for it. If I
am a listener, that's exactly what I would want. And

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this apparently was set up by USC punting from its old,
old goal line and a short punt. Horrible, it was
one of the worst punch you will ever see. The
thing landed on the thirty yard line, so the drive
started inside the SC two plays later, Oregon State takes
a fourteen ten leading. We have under five minutes to
go in this game, Ladies and Gentlemen, a battle of

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three and O teams in the PAC twelve in corvallis. Course,
Oregon state very familiar with upsetting USC at that locale,
travis die of the Trojan Seventeen carries, a hundred thirteen
yards in a touchdown. Oregon states thrown three interceptions, but
again they have just taken the lead with under five
minutes to go. Meanwhile, how Stanford doing? Well? A year
ago Stanford had an upset win of Oregon. Since then

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Stanford is Oh and eight. Well, they did have a
win against Colgate, but their oh and eight against FBS opponents. Stanford,
early third quarter is losing on fs one. Tonight it's
eighteenth rank Washington, seventeen seven in the lead, nineteenth rank
B Yu. Now I had twenty one ten over Wyoming
in the third quarter and in the third. Thirteenth Rank
Utah leads at Arizona State six. Just last weekend a

(01:43:30):
s you fired its head coach, herm Edwards. You know,
I am old enough to remember when Marshall won it
Notre Dame two weeks ago, and then tonight's Marshall Loses
at Troy Sixteen to seven. Notre Dame gotta Win at
North Carolina. Today for thirty two. Kansas is four and
oh after beating Duke thirty five to twenty seven. UCF

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defeated Georgia Tech, Florida State all over, Boston College in
the top five, wins for Georgia and Alabama, wins for
Ohio State, aid in Michigan and fifth rank Clemson one
in double overtime at wake for five, despite six touchdown
passes from Sam Hartman. Number six, Oklahoma lost tonight at
home on Fox TV to Kansas State. Forty one. Thirty four.

(01:44:15):
Adrian Martinez, the former Nebraska quarterback now at k state,
had five total touchdowns. Twenty one carries, a hundred forty
eight yards rushing form. Number Eight, Kentucky beat Northern Illinois.
Thirty one, twenty three. Number ten, Arkansas loss, missing that
late forty two yard field goal attempt in Arlington. Texas
A and M Beats Arkansas. Twenty three one victories for

(01:44:37):
Tennessee and NC state. Wins for Penn State and Number
Fifteen Oregon. The ducks were trailing at Washington state today.
Twenty seven fifteen to start the fourth quarter. Ducks win
the game. Forty four. Forty one victories for old miss
and Baylor, for Pitt and Texas Tech, which beat Texas
in overtime. Thirty seven, thirty four and Middle Tennessee was

(01:44:57):
a winner at Miami. Forty five to thirty one. Las
Vegas running back Josh Jacobs traveled to the Game Tennessee tomorrow.
Skip the team flight yesterday due to illness, but he
is now with his team, but wide receiver of the raiders,
Hunter Renfrow, is out with a concussion. Titans left tackle
Taylor Lawan out for the year with a knee injury.
Buffalo Bill Safety Micah hide out for the year with

(01:45:19):
the neck injury. Buffaloes at Miami tomorrow. The dodgers have
won the late ball game six two over St Louis.
That's a hundred five wins for the dodgers, still over
week left in their season. Hundred six victories is the
franchise record. Milwaukee earlier gonna win. Cleveland won at six
in a row. Yankees won their sixth straight. Aaron judge
went over three, Atlanta one, and the mets and Jacob

(01:45:40):
degrom lost ten to four at Oakland. So the mats
first in the NL East, just a game and a
half ahead of the Atlanta braves. Updating. It's about three
and a half minutes to go at Oregon State and
the beavers are leading seventh right to USC fourteen to ten.
Back to you to say or you will keep us
updated on that one here in about in minutes when
we come back for our extended segment. What else do

(01:46:02):
you have for us? I assume a lot of college
football absolutely, including a score you will not believe, and
in fact a stat from baseball last night that you
will not believe. Those butts lots of college football together.
I think I know what that score is because our
producer threw it in a text, like a photo of it.
I don't even know if that was the final but

(01:46:23):
that was one of the more disgusting things I've seen
in a while. A notable score, shall we say. We'll
flush out the details in a few minutes. Alright, very good. Well,
thank you, Steve to Sager, Fox sports radio, Fox sports Saturday,
Aaron Torres, Jason Martin here. Um, I'll tell you what,
Jason Run you know what? Let's let's let's do the
Tampa Green Bay. Actually, let's do this. I'm gonna ask

(01:46:45):
you a question and I think I know the answer.
But I think you can make the case for the
other one game you're more excited about tomorrow. Green Bay
at Tampa, buffalo at Miami, go buffalo at Miami. Okay, okay, okay, see,
I thought Green Bay Tampa was too obvious, so explain
to me why. I think I'm kind of infatuated with

(01:47:08):
the new right now. I've seen brady and Rogers, for
it seems like half my life, and privileged to do so,
might I add. But after watching Miami last week and
the Comeback Against Baltimore, we already knew buffalo was really good.
What they did to Tennessee was borderline criminal like. That

(01:47:29):
was just unbelievable to witness those two offenses going against
one another. I just can't imagine anything being better from
a pure entertainment standpoint than that's gonna be. So that's why.
So I am too, and it's for the exact same
reason that you said. Is that, again, Rogers, Brady, Alzheimer's.

(01:47:51):
We get it, but we've seen them play at an
elite level against elite competition, against each other, uh, for
a long time. I am infatuated with this game for
two reasons. One, because Buffalo, I mean, they have looked
like the super bowl favorites that they were, you know,
positioned to be in the preseason. And one thing that
I know that I talked about quite a bit on

(01:48:12):
these air waves is I got why buffalo was the
preseason favorite, but it was kind of interesting right because
usually the preseason favorite the reigning Super Bowl Champ, the
reigning super bowl runner up, a team coming off some
weird major injury. A you know that? That that has
a guy coming back right that wasn't available. Um, you know.

(01:48:32):
You you talk about a team maybe like the bucks
a few years ago that got Tom Brady, the browns
the year that they got Odell and all those guys.
The bills in their current iteration had never made it
past the A F C championship game and in the
one a F C championship game they they were in,
they got absolutely housed. Okay and so, and I understand
all time great performance against the chiefs in the division

(01:48:54):
round last year, but it was interesting to me that
I didn't never remember a team that had really accomplished
so little as a group being labeled a favorite coming
into the year. Well, through two games they are very
much playing like the best team in the NFL and
that has me excited because they're playing up to those expectations.
The flip side is Miami. I think we all saw
the pieces on paper to it was really good late

(01:49:17):
last year, but it was against inferior competition. Um, you know,
tyree hills resume speaks for itself. Jalen waddle was already there,
but what would happen when it all came together, and
what we see is one of the most potent offenses
in the NFL. Really quick on too, let me ask
you this. Have you like like? So I'm I'm I'm
myself a little bit torn onto it because, on the

(01:49:39):
one hand, I've always been a to a guy. I'm
happy to see him having success and I do think
he's proving a lot of the doubters wrong. And again,
this was a guy that won a ton of games
last year had Miami in the position to potentially make
the playoffs. They didn't make it whatever. So on the
one hand I'm happy to see him have success. On
the other hand, I also do look at it and say,

(01:50:01):
is he that good, or would a lot of quarterbacks
be putting up similar stats and be too? No, when
you have Jalen, Jalen waddle and tyreek hill as your
one and two wide receivers. So has this run through
two weeks and it is only two weeks and they
did have a while comeback last week. Is it any
confirmation for you on two? What did you already think

(01:50:21):
TWA was good? Does this think? Does this not prove
anything to you about to at all, because the wide
receiver talent is so good. What does this run make
you feel about for Miami through two weeks? It makes
me feel for to uh and what you just said,
I think, is is really illuminating, because how does to
a win other than just getting to keep his job,

(01:50:42):
because if he does well, it's all going to be
credited to the weaponry. If he struggles, it's all gonna
fall on him. Like I don't know exactly how he
wins here, because no, I'm certainly not sold on to
ah but watching what he did last week makes me
feel like, and I had kind of workshopped in my

(01:51:02):
head a new segment for us called my bad, where
we were just like you know what, that's on me.
I think I might have been wrong about that. And
the thing, obviously, the easiest one, would be Miami being
this good at this point. First off, I think they've
got an excellent head coach. I think they've got an
offensive minded guy, a different guy, but a dude that
you want to run through a brick wall for. I
think that could be very, very dangerous. Uh, as George

(01:51:24):
Addison scores a touchdown for USC thirteen left to take
the league. Just so you know, just to go ahead
and throw that one out there. But I look at
it and I just say I don't know how too
is supposed to win here, because I don't know how
I even you get to the end of the year.
It's like we know, we'll look at all the weapons
that he had right and you could throw other quarterbacks there,
but he was able to accomplish that feat. If indeed

(01:51:47):
we get there. He couldn't have done more to help
his case than he did last week. But we also
know it was wattle and it was hill for the
most part. That just came too much for that Baltimore Secondary,
which was just way too poor us. This is Fox
sports radio, aeron towards Jason Martin here. As Jason Just

(01:52:09):
told you, USC has taken the lead sixteen fourteen at
Oregon state extra point pending. Just a few minutes left
in that one. We will keep you updated on that.
We will also bring in Steve De Sager to get
you caught up on everything that you missed throughout the
day in the world of sports. Aeron towards Jason Martin.
Steve disager coming up. This is Fox sports radio. Welcome

(01:52:32):
back everybody. Fox Sports Radio. Aeron Torres. Jason Martin coming
to you from the tire rack dot com studios. UH,
at this time every week we do go to Steve
De Sager for an extended update. In disagre. I do
believe we have a one game that went just about
final a moment ago. I correct. Do we have confirmation
of an SC interception at the end? It's over? Okay, Jason,

(01:52:57):
four and four interceptions owl and Lincoln Rowley is talking
on the field games. Seventh ranked USC now four and
oh surviving on the road for this game. We have
so much college football to get to. But one MLB
note that I passed along on the last night show
found from the folks who follow stat cast, which of
course measures everything on a baseball field in recent years.

(01:53:21):
MLB RANDOM STATS says that this was the night that
Albert pooles hit two home runs, giving him seven hundred
for his career. He did not homer in l a tonight,
but his average home run trot recent years, as tracked
by Stat Cast, about twenty six seconds. So if you
extrapolate that over his full career, Albert poololes has spent
just over five hours of his career simply running the

(01:53:42):
bases after hitting home run. That's how long this guy
has been around there. Stunning. Is this the spot that
I should admit that I had tickets to the dodgers
game last night and we couldn't find and I didn't go.
You did not. I did somebody that that works for
the dodgers who may work for Fox Sports Radio Help
me get him and UH, didn't end up going. So
they were not outfield seats. I don't know where they

(01:54:04):
were because I didn't go, but I'm gonna assume they
weren't and just hoped they weren't because, and I'll tell you,
can't make that up. I'll tell you what, an hour
four we're gonna talk about that seven hundred home run ball,
Steve Di Seger and Jason Mark, because I want to
know what you would do if you caught seven hundred
or Aaron judges sixty two. I would not trade it
for a bat. Okay, so we'll keep that conversation going

(01:54:26):
an hour four. And I love memorabilia, but no, I
would not give me money hollowed out with money in it.
And then we can have a conversations hard cash. More
than I love anything. So well, I found out this
college football score from Wat Conference football. I didn't know
the WAT conference. Well, I guess they've rejoined but they're
not in FBS. But Anyway, a WAT conference team, Stephen

(01:54:48):
F Austin, was playing an AI opponent, warner, you know
dreaded Warner, and in acadochious Texas. The final score was
to nothing. Stephen F Boston used four quarterbacks. They combined
for eight touchdown passes, apparently the FBS record. Nine. Wyoming
won a game scoring one oh three, one oh three

(01:55:12):
to zip against northern Colorado. That's the largest win in
FBS history. What was Georgia Tech Cumberland to or something?
It was like two to nothing and they kept running
the clock towards the end to get the thing over.
In the old old days, I mean score a hundred
years ago. Yeah, it's kind of like the comment with

(01:55:32):
the red SOx Yankees last night that somebody made one
of the beat writers that Rich Hill was on the
mound for Boston and of course he realizes the history
at stake here with Roger Marris record nearly being tied,
because he's of course a contemporary of Roger Marris. He's
been in the major league anyway. Apparently the last FBS
team to score at least ninety eight points in a

(01:55:54):
game was nineteen sixty eight, Houston beating Tulsa one hundred
to six. So it's Today we had a Stephen F
Austin Ninety eight nothing route of an n a I
a opponent. And then you have this retweeted tonight from
the athletic that on Reddit someone said on a day
where Texas and Oklahoma both lose, it simply says big twelve,

(01:56:15):
two traders nothing. Those two leaving the conference in a
few short years. Texas tech in overtime beat the Texas
longhorns thirty seven, thirty four and tech a trail thirty
one seventeen late in the third quarter, took the lead
late in regulation. Texas kicked the tying forty eight yard
field goal end of regulation, but on the first play

(01:56:36):
of overtime the Longhorn star running back be Jean Robinson fumbled.
Tech shortly after that wins the game and Robinson had,
on sixteen carries, a hundred one yards rushing, two touchdowns.
LONGHORNS lose. Texas tech will be at Kansas state next week.
K State wins at number six Oklahoma, forty one to
thirty four, a third loss for the sooners to the

(01:56:59):
wildcats in the past four seasons at Oklahoma Starts, Oh
and one in conference play for the third time in
the last decade or so. Meanwhile, cal had a freshman
running back, Jaden Ott, run for two hundred seventy four yards,
which cal says is the most in a single game
by anybody in fbs so far this season. Cal Winds

(01:57:19):
up beating the Arnie Spaniards Arizona wildcats. That's right there.
When they play like that there, they don't get the
big growl that aren'tie. This is the wildcats. Cal beat
him forty nine to thirty one, and the kid only
had nineteen carries for the two D seventy four yards
for the crushing result there. You mentioned U C L

(01:57:40):
A earlier. I'm not sure if they're good or not still,
because they've had this is their weakest schedule in twenty years.
They've had four games against four complete nobodies and they
wanted win loss Colorado today. They were supposed to have
Michigan on the schedule this year. Is that would happened? Yeah,
I think they filled it in with like an Alabama state,
South Alabama. They almost lost to last week at the
Rose Bowl. But yeah, it's it's just been four cupcakes

(01:58:04):
to that. I do not know. I'll do some googling.
You can. You keep going, happy to meanwhile, we had
opposite the Thursday night nfl this past week, which was
streaming only on Thursdays. Of course it's still got a
good rating, but baseball with Aaron Judge in the Yankees
against the red SOx on Thursday night. And No, it

(01:58:24):
didn't beat football, of course not. NFL beats everything. But
it was baseball's highest rated game of this season and
three point two million viewers on Thursday night on Fox.
It had been three point one million for the field
of dreams game cubs reds last month. That had been
the high mark and in fact, just this is how
powerful NFL is for your ratings. Just airing adjacent to

(01:58:48):
NFL coverage last weekend was the NHR A nationals. It
got one point seven million viewers, the largest for hot
rod audience any any network live taped of just by
being near Atl converage, because people fell US watching the
game and then it was all after the fact and

(01:59:08):
you get the tertiary benefit of that. By the way,
really quick to Seger. Michigan canceled the series three against
U C L A. UH, the Hawaii game is who
they replaced Michigan U C L A with this year.
Next year it's East Carolina. If you want to plan
your schedule according and of course this wasn't it, sec
told Oklahoma they have to cancel games because they're going

(01:59:30):
into the SEC. You know how things are laid out
now in conference, so many years in advance. Well, some
of those non conference for the sooners are going to
wind up being conference opponents. So they had to lay
low on a couple of those. X them off their
list for future years. Alright, Steven Seger. Well, we appreciate everything.
A lot of good college football still going on. Utah

(01:59:50):
Rolling Past Arizona State, B Yu in control of Wyoming and,
as the segretors told you, U C L A. Oregon
State is a F U Se Oregon States the final
come up. We go to the NFL. Plus Bernie Fratto
joins us. This is Fox sports radio. Welcome in everybody,
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(02:00:53):
Oregon state by the skin of their teeth and it
was a busy day across college football. If you missed
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it is time to turn our attention to week three
of the NFL. Uh You heard during the break Colin
talking a little bit about that Thursday night Cleveland Pittsburgh game.
We don't really need to recap that one, but we

(02:01:15):
three is underway and the big one of course, will
come tomorrow, Sunday, about four eastern time in Tampa Bay.
Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay packers traveling to Tampa,
potentially the final time we see Rogers versus Brady. By
the way, do you feel this could be the final
time we see Rogers versus Brady from this perspective? This

(02:01:36):
week we you know, the Tom Brady Melodrama that all
of a sudden every week it's something new with Tom Brady.
He's supposed to have Wednesdays off, that he shows up
on Wednesday and I understand that Mike Evans has suspended
and they're breaking in a bunch of new wide receivers.
It's weird in Tampa. But I I still believe, based
on everything we've seen, I do think this is gonna

(02:01:57):
be Tom Brady's last year, which of course, would mean
that there is a very good chance, depending on how
the playoffs play out, that tomorrow would be the final
time we see brady versus Rogers. Yeah, I think it's
very possible. I would probably predict the answer is yes.
I increasingly and even in the moment when it happened,
but certainly with what we've seen this offseason, where Brady

(02:02:20):
has been so UN Brady like over the last few
months because he's actually been a bit of a distraction
to his own team for things that have nothing to
do with football. It's been things going on with personal
life and taking time off and not working with a
couple of new receivers when he had some turnover at
the receiver position. You would think you would want to
be there with work with those guys. same thing with
Aaron Rodgers, by the way, um, but it didn't turn

(02:02:41):
out to work, you know, in the same fashion. But
I increasingly believe he shouldn't have come back, and it's
not just from the perspective of Um, whether or not
they can win a super bowl and all this. For me,
it's definitely, at least when it comes to my own life.

(02:03:02):
If it was something that was gonna affect my personal life,
my relationship with my wife and my family, I'm out
like that. They're gonna be number one. Now this may
indicate that Brady was just unable to do that. He
tried or whatever, but everything that's happened with her being
estranged and going to the compound in Puerto Rico and
all that kind of stuff. The bigger issue is. Can

(02:03:24):
you then push that to the side mentally and then
go play high end football in a in a maybe
not in in conference, but certainly in a league where
the quarterback play is so deep, where the offenses are
so skilled and where your chances of winning a super
bowl are a little bit diminished? Probably you have a

(02:03:45):
better chance to get there from the NFC, but the
a F C, whoever staring at you at that point
in time, is gonna be a whale of an opponent.
And you even saw last week against the saints. For
three quarters plus they were unable to do anything off
offensively against New Orleans, even with Jamie's plan, with all
the issues with this back and all the things that
were going on in the defense, basically winning that game

(02:04:07):
for them. I don't think you should have come back
because I think his mind's in a bad place. His
personal life is not in the best place either, and
I look at the bucks and say I just don't
think what they're doing is sustainable. I'm not particularly impressed.
I don't think their defense is gonna be that good
that they can just win every game defensively, not against

(02:04:30):
this league. So I the only part that I would
studo disagree with is I just don't think that if
he was still unsure, he should have retired in the
first place. But I'm with you. Once the decision gets made,
it just feels like there's a lot going on. And
and you know, it's funny because you know, I've kind
of had the stance of, you know, Arnie and I
argued about this for years. Has Arni said, you know,

(02:04:51):
what else does he have to prove? Blah, blah, blah,
this and that, and I always said, as long as
he's competing at the highest level. Um, you know, he's
not sticking around at forty five be a backup for
the Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean he's still playing at a
really high level, but it is clear, Um, that it
is having friction in his personal life and and that
that's my stance, is that I think that if you're

(02:05:12):
an all time great, if you are the greatest ever,
do it and you're you're doing it at a high level,
forty five and keep playing right up until you might
lose your entire family because of it. So I'm with
you from that perspective and I'm also with you from
the perspective of I think it's easy to look at
Tampa and say, oh, they're two and oh brady does
it again, can't miss a meat. Well, week one, and

(02:05:32):
I know they were up comfortably before Dak Prescott got hurt,
but Dak Prescott did get hurt. And then week two,
last week. I think it's easy to sit there and say, well,
they took care of business against Tampa. Are Against New Orleans.
Excuse me, it was three to three going into the
fourth quarter and Tom Brady is on the sideline throwing
ipads like he was furious, like in a way that
you haven't seen a long time. Not just the ipads there,

(02:05:52):
but how many times did you see a shot of
him yelling at a wide receiver on the field? It
happened probably half a dozen times. I was watching red zones.
It's not like I was keyed in on that matchup throughout,
and I even saw it half a dozen times. Well,
and it's funny. I had this thought is that I
do think in life, Um, not to get existential here,

(02:06:13):
but I do think at certain points in your life,
no matter what it is, a job of school, of
this and that, whatever, you just it's time to move
on and and you know it right Um, I've given
this example, but so everybody knows. You know I went
to Yukon, but what a lot of people don't know
is after I graduated I actually got a job at
Yukon in the Athletic Department, and I've told this story before,

(02:06:34):
but Um, for a year I worked at Yukon after
I graduated and all my friends had left and you know,
after a year of doing that I was like, I
don't want to be here the rest of my life.
All my friends are gone. Uh, this is not what
I want to do. And so I bring it up
because I was thinking about Brady u when it pertains
to this season. Is he comes to Tampa, Um, but

(02:06:56):
he brings he brings Gronk with him. Um. You can
criticize Antonio Brown for how it ended, but clearly he
was Brady's guy. He was literally living with Brady. Um.
You know, to start it seems as though Brady had
a good relationship with Bruce Arians and now he's playing
for a different coach. And so I I look at
the situation with Brady is, I think it's exactly what
you said. Is. I don't think he thought about it

(02:07:18):
like this and I and I do think part of it,
I really do, and this might sound stupid, I think
part of it was he wanted to play until forty
five to prove to himself that it could be done right.
Because what other reason do you have? You you've you've
won super bowls, you won your super bowl without Belichick,
and now I just look at a guy that that,
you know, I kind of feel like he knows, like

(02:07:40):
you said that, that he probably should have stepped away.
Like I said, I just think in life sometimes you
know it's time for me to move on, it's time
for me to go, and when you factor and no GRONK,
no Antonio Brown, and then, on top of that, Um,
you know, just seems unhappy, you know, seems distant. Said He.
He literally did say I have a lot to you know,

(02:08:00):
what going on in my life outside of football. When
he left during fall camp, it just feels like probably
should have left that, you know, after last season. Yeah,
so this is interesting because of the weekend in which
it happened, because what happened yesterday is kind of an
indicator of what you just said. Someone who knew when
it was time to walk away. Roger Federer. Roger Federer

(02:08:22):
at the Labor Cup, finishing his career in doubles. He
got the send off that you want right. He didn't
take a long victory tour. It wasn't something like season
long retirement or anything else. He made the call and
then he played his last match and he spoke afterwards
and one of the things that that really stood out
to me in his comments was giving so much credit

(02:08:44):
to his wife and saying you could have told me,
you could have stopped me years and years ago, but
you let me chase my dream. There's something to be
said for that relationship and the wife being supportive, if
just sell no longer is, and she has been for
a long time, but at the same time she's had
to put many of her dreams on hold, despite being

(02:09:06):
the breadwinner in the family, as crazy as that is,
considering it's Tom Brady we're talking about. She's put her
dreams on hold and she's been the mom and she's
been the wife and she stayed at home throughout all
of this kind of stuff. I looked at the Federer
thing and I thought, man, that's how I will know.
That's how I'd want to go out and so and
it's so hard and I think it's even harder if

(02:09:28):
you're that great, if you're as great as a federer
or a Jordan's or a Tom Brady or an Aaron
Rodgers or one of these kind of guys. It's hard
to actually acknowledge that I need to step away, especially
if you think you can still go. And in Brady's
case he can, but there are other factors in his

(02:09:49):
life that he has to take into consideration and I
don't think he got the green light from just sell
the way that Federer maybe did for the last two
or three years. And you saw Roger step away. Roger
steps away as gracefully as you could possibly imagine. Well,
and it's ironic because you know you have a guy
like Aaron Rodgers who clearly has said I'm not playing

(02:10:11):
Tilm forty, until I'm his age, and Aaron Rodgers has
other interests outside of football. That's Broun with Tom Brady.
He doesn't have any other interests outside of football outside
of being the greatest to ever do it really quick
on the field. What what do you expect to see
tomorrow and Tampa? I'll just be honest. Is I look
at this from the perspective that we just talked about
is that Tampa, to me, has been relatively unimpressive. There

(02:10:33):
is no Mike Evans. I know the Games would pick
him and I know Tampa's at home and Um, you
know you never bet against Brady. Blah Blah, blah, Blah Blah.
I don't know. I'M gonna bet against Brady. I know
that that that Green Bay has banged up too. I
know that that obviously they're still adjusting the life without
Davante Adams. Looked really bad against Minnesota, looked really good
against Chicago. I just I just think this Tampa team

(02:10:53):
is I don't know, I'm I'm underwhelmed by them, despite
the two and old record. What do you expect tomorrow
at Raymond James Stadium? I definitely don't like to taste
that that Tampa leaves right now like it's a bad aftertaste,
but I just don't want any part of this game, honestly,
like I mean not not watching it, I mean but
in terms of having action on it. If I were

(02:11:14):
a Gambler, I would want no part of this at all.
Like I was looking at it and it's what plus one.
I think it's like a one point for Tampa, which basically,
as you mentioned, is just to pick them. So I
look at im just I don't know. I mean I
think that Green Bay, if they can run the ball,
they can win that game. I just still don't trust
what's going on with their receiving situation. LAZARD had two
catches last week. I don't I think that Green Bay

(02:11:37):
is closer to the team that we saw against Chicago,
because we know that they're skilled pretty much everywhere else
on the field except that the wide receiver talent. That's
a little bit sketch at this point in time. But
I also watched what happened in that week one game
and it's just I don't love either one of these teams.
I love both of these quarterbacks. So it's kind of

(02:11:57):
one of those games where it's like the old Brady
Roethlisberger Games and stuff like that, where we'll just see
which quarterback makes place or is it gonna be a
defensive game? So a defensive game and both of them
have good defenses. I think Tampa probably wins it, but
it's one that I'm just gonna kind of watch and
not speak on very much as I watch it because
I'm destroying my shoulders. I don't know what's gonna Happen

(02:12:19):
in that game, but I don't like the taste right
now from Tampa Bay at all. I'm totally with you.
I'm totally with you on Tampa and I do think
there's something bigger going on there. Just feels like there's
a lot of tension. I mean even with the Mike
Evans stuff last week and you know, you kind of saw,
you read his lips. You know, says something about you know,
that's Tom Brady. That's Tom Brady, and you know, kind
of trying to justify why he acted the way he

(02:12:40):
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(02:13:02):
Eron torrest Jason Martin Company from the Tirect Dot Com
studios and when you hear pig Pimpin at one twenty eastern.
As I said last week, it could mean a lot
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You can hear him at the top of the hour,
the Bernie Fretto show from two a m eastern to

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six AM. And of course Bernie hosts Friday evenings, Friday
evenings into Saturday as well. Bernie Fretto, what's going on,
my friend? How you doing? You know. Thanks, guys, for
updating the USC game. There's a certain irony. The USC
Oregon game in Las Vegas had more action on that
single game than any game on the board today or

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in the NFL tomorrow, and yet hardly any of us
can see it. Why? Bernie, I saw that. Why was
is it an l a thing? What? Why? Why is
that so? A couple of things. First of all, the
books put up a sharp line six. They wanted to
see if they could create equal action. It turned out
to be the perfect number and UN inexplicably, one certain

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book put up Oregon State plus thirteen. What? So you yes,
and it got corrected, but not before there was what
you call a lot of arbitrage. So folks were laying
six on one side and taking a thirteen on the
other side, which brought in a ton of action. But
once the line settled around six and a half six,
it became an argument. All right, is S C for real?
Can they really keep up the magic? They had forced

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ten turnovers so far this year, hadn't turned the ball
over once. They were a hundred percent on fourth down conversions. Meanwhile,
if you look at the history of USC and Corps Alice,
even going back to the Reggie Bush days, they've had
their season ruin there more than once. So tonight, you know,
it lived up to the building but because of equal
action on both sides, there was that was the biggest

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handle money game in the board, even in the NFL.
So you mentioned NFL, and something I've been thinking about
all week and looking forward to asking you is Trey Lance.
It's done for the year. So Jim Garoppolo, luckily for
the forty niners and for their fans, is still there.
What changed in terms of Vegas, like how did the
odds get affected when Garoppolo was named the starter, obviously

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with Lance being out right good question. So two things
first of all, their Super Bowl odds shortened from twenty
to one down to sixteen to one. And the biggest
thing is the game this week in Denver. Now there's
a thing in Las Vegas called the look aheadline, meaning
before the week three games are even played the week

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or the week two games were even played. The week
three games. There's a look aheadline every Wednesday at the
West Gate. So before last Sunday's kickoff and Trey Lance
got hurt, the look aheadline was San Francisco getting two
and a half points at Denver. Once it was announced
that Lance was out for the year and Jimmy G
would be the starter, the line moved for full points.

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Now San Francisco using one and a half point favorite.
So Jimmy G's worth four points to the line as
it pretends to replacing Tree Lance. So Burn, uh, you know,
we we, we mentioned this quite a bit, but you
did live in Michigan for twenty plus years and and
I I remembered this time last year you were all
over the Malt Tucker Story. You said if he leaves

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it will not be over money. UH, Michigan State has
lost one famous, you know, infamous coach to the SEC
that was obviously Nick Saban. They are going to make
sure it does not happen again. So I bring that
up to sat melt Tucker gets his money. Um, everybody
is happy, at least in January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August,
early September. But now Michigan State is two and two.

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They got destroyed by Ohio state late last year when
that contract was consummated. Has there been any buyer's remorse
from your sources out there in Michigan? Well, the shorter
answer is no, but let me context you aalize this
and and and give you some additional information. And you
really have to go back to about a year ago now,
when Michigan State started off seven and Oh word got

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out that Baton Rouge was going to release at orge
run and Bruce Feldman, a very respective reporter, said that
Michigan State's head coach, Melt Tucker, was being banded about
as the replacement. And Melt Tucker has ties to Baton
Rouge and it looked like Baton Rouge was gonna polly
up about dollars. Well, Michigan State has multiple billionaire benefactors.

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Everybody knows about Dan Gilbert. There's another guy, Matt Ishbia,
who was on the two thousand National Championship team, Steve
Saint Andre. These guys are big timers. They're billionaires and
their Michigan state alarms and their benefactors. So the contract
itself has been largely funded and subsidized by Matt Ishbia
and Steve Saint Andre. Had Melt Tucker left town, there

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would have been a lot more teeth gnashing now again.
This is when they were seven and Oh and we
know how it ended in their tune two this year.
But the second that Tucker beat Michigan State two times
in a row. No other coach in the history of
Michigan State had beaten Michigan their first two tries. So
he could walk on water there. But then you've got
to remember, you have to put this in context, that

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once Melt Tucker signed the chain reaction reverberated across the
sport Brian Kelly got a hundred million deal over ten years.
He Bolted Notre Dame, went to L S U. Mario
Cristo Ball got eighty million to leave Oregon for Miami.
How the Hell's at working out? And he didn't exactly
let it up with Justin Herbert. I know we had
a good record, but look what Justin Herbert's done since

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he left Oregon. Meanwhile, James Franklin got a ten year,
seventy five million dollar extension just to stay at Penn State.
I don't know what Lincoln Riley got, but he got
a boatload. And let's not forget Kirby Spark. He's leaving
everybody in the dust. What did he get? A ten
year deal with an average of eleven million dollars. The
moral of the story is you raised a really good
question because from the outside looking in, they made fun

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of him at Washington. He's getting trolled big time. It's
low hanging fruit. They made fun of him this week Minnesota,
all along their fan boards. But so far there it's
it's a non event and the only people that would
be upset would be MATT SHP and Steve Sant Andrea,
who wrote the check, and I don't think they are.
So there's a couple of notes that you had given

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us about things that were interesting that you had kind
of noted. One of them, and I'm not even sure
how to set it up, but FCS teams favored over
FBS teams. I am fascinated by this. Well, yeah, that's right,
I forget. You were hope you hope you're feeling better.
Last week Aaron asked a really good question because he
was on with Arnie and the North Dakota State Arizona

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State was going on in North Dakota State is obviously
their powerhouse, but they're an FCS team. They were actually
laying two and a half points at Arizona. Arizona pulled
out late but it looked like North Dakota state was
gonna win. So you've got an FCS team favored over
an FBS team, and Aaron asked a great question. How
often has that happened? Well, since two thousand seven when

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APP state beat Michigan. Of course they were a big
underdog that day. It's actually happened nineteen times whereby an
FCS team was favored over an FBS team. And, believe
it or not, in those situations before note Dakota state
didn't cover, those FCS teams were actually fifteen and four
when they were favorite over an FBS team. Now a
lot of those are of the variety Idaho favorite over

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old dominion, et Cetera, or vice versa. But nonetheless that's
the case. So there's a lot of parody in college football.
And if you look at, for instance, real quickly James Madison,
which is also an FCS powerhouse, they traveled to APP
state today and they were getting a touchdown. That was
one of the big favorite plays amongst sharps because, uh,
James Madison getting two points. Because look this roller coaster,

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this emotional roller coaster for APP state. I mean they
scored forty points in the fourth quarter against North Carolina.
They beat Texas A and M out right as a
nineteen point dog. Then obviously, last week to Hail Mary
Against Troy. How long could just keep up? They led
Jack's or James Madison ten at a half ended up
losing on right. So there's actually a lot of parody

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in college football, more than we realize. So Burn Um
one game Tomor or I'm curious about bill's Dolphins Um,
just real quick. Dolphins Um does does do the sharps
by the dolphins or because one thing Jason and I
were talking about is do you give credit to Tou could?
Could a lot of quarterbacks do it too? It did

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last week six touchdowns with with tyreek Hill and Jalen waddle.
What do the sharps think of Miami? Well, it's always
a week to week league guys. You know that. Right
now the sharps love Miami on Sunday. Originally they got
them plus six. It's down to four and a half.
There's an interesting dynamic here. And let's not forget buffalo
got banged up a little against Tennessee. They got four

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starters out on defense Sunday. But here's a trend. It's
only taken place seven times in the last four years.
Buffalo opened up on a Thursday night. In one didn't
they played Monday night in one. Now they're back to
this Sunday NFL normal schedule. That's only happened seven times
in the last four years, where a team is won

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on Thursday, one on Monday night and then traveled to
play on Sunday. In those situations, those teams Oh and
seven against the spread. Why? We're all creatures a habit
and the buffalo bills get out of the routine. It's
also gonna be hot in Miami and Miami's proven they
can stretch the field and score a lot of points.
Their comeback last Sunday at Baltimore was sole historic. In

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twelve years there have been seven hundred eleven occasions where
a team in the NFL has trilled by twenty one
points or more in the fourth quarter, and in those situations,
the team that was leading seven hundred eleven and Oh
until last Sunday, when Miami pull it out, I think
too is for real. Listen, I've always been in a
tune to a corner for a couple of reasons. First

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of all, I think he's far more dynamic than he
gets credit for. You two terrible injuries heading into the
NFL that took the better part of a year to recover.
He inherited in nightmare in Miami. Now he's got weapons,
he's got a good coach who's taught him how to
think between the years when he gets hot and it's
hard to breathe, and he's got a situation where he's
got the best support system he's ever had, and I

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think he's gonna be able to really come through this year.
I think Miami's a playoff team. Last one burn obviously, uh.
You know, you have a vegas background. You live in Vegas,
and something that I can't speak for anybody else on
this show. But is is intriguing to me California. I'll
tell you this. I live in California. Bo can speak
to this. Every commercial is prop this prop that vote

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for legal gambling. Don't vote for legal gambling. What is
the latest on sports betting in California? So there are
two props that will be on the bout in November,
prop and prop real. Simply, crop is basically a retail
proposal that would allow in person sports books in California,
namely travelic casinos and race tracks, to set up shot

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brick and mortar. The other prop, twenty seven, would legalize
online sports betting with no numerical cap on any betting sites,
meaning essentially you've got one. If prop twenty seven passes,
you'll be able to bettle electronically. If prop twenty six passes,
you'll be able to walk into a casino or travel
casino or a race track if they've got a sports book.

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End Up Story. Now it's deeper than that because there
are a lot of factions fighting against each other and
there's a tremendous tug of war, which I'm going to
break down tonight. So both sides have their, you know,
their backers. And both sides have their opponents and a
hell of a lot of money is being spent. I
will tell you as of August two there's been almost
two hundred millions spent to get prop twenty six passed,

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but there's been a ton on the other side spent
that it won't be passed. So it's a real tug
of war. That is very interesting. Bernie Fritto, you can
hear him at the top of the hour the Bernie
Fratto show. He will be taking to six am eastern preview,
previewing what will be a busy week three in the NFL. Bernie,
we very much appreciate your time, my friend, and we
will talk to you uh next week and we'll listen

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to you at the top of the hour. Okay, thanks, guys.
I always enjoy it. Thanks so much. That was Bernie Fritto. Again,
you can hear him at the top of the hour
the Bernie Fratto show. Also make sure to follow him
on twitter at Bernie Freddo coming up a little bit
more on week three of the NFL. Jason and I
ripped through some of these other games on the slate
before that. The final time this evening. Let's get to

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Steve to Seger with what's trending in college football tonight.
Three Games still going in the top twenty. Under three
minutes to go. Thirteenth ranked Utah leading thirty four six
at Arizona State on fs one. Eighteenth rank Washington up
forty to fifteen now against Stanford, under eight minutes left
and about five and a half minutes to go. At
Nineteen Rank B Y U cougars, thirty five seventeen over Wyoming.

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Number seven USC survived the battle of three and O teams,
winning at Oregon State. Seventeen fourteen on a touchdown pass
which just over a minute ago. Oregon State through four interceptions.
The athletic points out the USC so far with the
new coaching staff. Fourteen takeaways, zero turnovers and they've started
four and oh, I don't know if you saw earlier

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the Missouri game today. That was so close. How did
we miss that? How did we not talk about this?
Two unbelievable things happened in that game. It was astounding
that all they needed was this twenty six yard field
goal at the end to win on the road. They
bring on their big fat kicker and he misses it
and I was astounded to hear the sideline reporters say

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before the play, before the fact. You know, I haven't
seen this kicker warm up or try to practice kicks
at all. The Guy is listed at five eleven to
fifty five. Kicker, wears number ninety two for Missouri, called
Thicker Kicker, and I'm thinking, what are you there for,
if not warming up? You think you could just waltz
onto the field and kick the game winner and be

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the hero on campus? And he misses a twenty, six
yard or wide right. It's it was an astounding turn
of event and that was only the second worst thing
that happened to him in that game. What happens doing
overtime was worse. Auburn eventually wins the game in overtime.
Seventeen and go ahead. Oh No, I want I wanted
you to tell did you not see it, Steve? I

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did see the Auburn game. Okay, did you see the
very end of it where the Missouri player was about
to win the ball game fumbled as he was going
into the end zone and that's how they lost. Missouri
reached toward the goal line and it slipped out of
his fingers before he reached the goal line. He fumbled
into the end zone to lose the game. Auburn recovered it,

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so it was just an l all the way around
for the how was that not in Nebraska? This is
my only question. Yeah, stand by only we mentioned earlier
that Colorado lost badly at home to U C L A. Well,
Colorado State is no great shakes either. A P pointing
out that those two are combined. Oh and eight and
so far had been outscored by their opponents about three

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forty to ninety in the eight games combined. Colorado State
lost at home to Sacramento State Forty one to ten.
Also involving the mountain west, San Diego State Edge Toledo,
said event team to fourteen. New Mexico state beat Hawaii
last night. You tap over Boise state. And also we
had in the top five wins for Georgia and Alabama,

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for Ohio State in Michigan. Number Five, Clemson one in
double overtime at wake four is fifty one forty five.
Dj Ngola a five touchdown passes, three hundred seventy one
yards through the air. Clemson had tied this game on
a fifty two yard field goal with about four minutes
left in regulation. And an upset on Fox TV tonight.
Kansas State wins at number six Oklahoma. Forty one thirty

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four quarterback Adrian Martinez, yes, the one who seemingly played
seven years for Nebraska five total touchdowns. For K state
he had twenty one carries for a hundred forty eight yards. Texas,
A and M beat tenth ranked Arkansas's. Arkansas missed a
late forty two yard field goal attempt that hit the
top of the right upright and one. The final Tennessee

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over Florida. Oregon came back to win at Washington state.
Texas tech in overtime, beat Texas and Middle Tennessee at Miami.
Three late in the first half beat him up one
hurricanes with three turnovers allowed over five hundred yards. This
is the Middle Tennessee team that lost its opener at
James Madison Seven. I believe James Madison scored two fourth

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quarter touchdowns to win an APP state. Today, by the way,
Yankees won their six game in a row. Cleveland won
at six in a row. Dodgers and padres each one
tonight and the twins lost. Are ended a five game
losing streak, but it's probably too little, too late. Just
over a week left in the season. Notable the NL
East standings. Oakland beat the mets and Jacob degrom ten four,
while Atlanta was a winner at Philadelphia, six, three behind

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Kyle Right, who's twenty and five braves, just a game
and a half back. However, rookie pitcher for Atlanta, Spencer Strider,
goes on the injured list with a strained oblique. Back
to you. Thank you very much, Steve De Seger. This
is Fox sports radio, Fox sports Saturday errant towards Jason Martin,
taking you to the top of the hour. Jason, really
quick let's just rip through some of these other games
in college football or in the NFL. Excuse me, U

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talked a little bit about the Green Bay Tampa game.
Let's get to the other game that obviously everybody is
intrigued by, you said in many ways, and I agree
with you, at least from my perspective. I am as intrigued,
if not more intrigued, by buffalo versus Miami. What are
your thoughts on this one, now that the game is
actually going to be played on the field to two
and oh teams, two teams that have looked very good,

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two offenses that are very exciting. Man. I don't know.
I mean Mica hide being out and then being down
four players from the short week and the tough just
I mean it's a physical game, despite how domino it
was for buffalo over Tennessee Miami with the emotional high
of that insane comeback over Baltimore, and now they've got

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to go play maybe the best team in the NFL.
I have no idea who's gonna win this football game.
I tend to think buffalo is because I think they're
the best team in the league. But after watching Miami
last week, Micah high going down, what you don't want
is your secondary to be in any way depleted, especially
not losing a I of that caliber, dealing with the

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speed and maneuverability of the targets for two a Tongo Voloa.
I will. I will take the bills to win the game,
but I don't feel great about it because I have
been impressed with Miami. I guess I'm just a little
hesitant because I've seen quick starts in the NFL before.
It's a week to week league. If I was just
looking at the rosters one to fifty three, I'm still

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taking Josh Allen and his crew. By the way, they
say you know you've seen everything. Right now, the Stanford
Washington game is currently in a delay on fs one
was six minutes left because there is a drone flying
over the stadium right now. So you talk about a
world where you know, you think you've seen everything. Jason Martin,

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we got a college football game, by the way. We
had Iowa Nevada UH delayed three times in the fourth
quarter because of of weather last week. We have a
drone flying over Washington stadium currently, or Husky Stadium I
should say, currently delaying this game really quick. One of
the NFL game I want to get to before the break.
You mentioned Miami, that Big Rally Against Baltimore. Baltimore now

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going on the road against New England. New England, of course,
coming off that Nice win last week against Pittsburgh. That
one is intriguing to me as well because, on the
one hand I could see Baltimore having a nice bounce back,
on the other, you know, New England. It just feels
like I'm I don't love them, but this just this
does feel like a spot where you kind of get
a wounded team kind of questioning themselves. Could have one

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should have won. How do you see this one shaking out?
What are they getting? Two and a half. I think
New England is I like the Ravens is actually the
first one that I wrote down that we were going
to talk about when we get back out of the break,
but it doesn't matter. I had enough written down to
to sketch this one out now. I think they're going
to bounce back because I was impressed of what I
saw from them offensively last week, the exploits that Miami

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had against their secondary, particularly in the second half of
that game during the comeback. I just don't think New
England possesses those weapons. So that's where I stand on that.
You could see this is a kind of game that
belichick finds a way to win, but I don't think
this Belichick and this patriots team I liked. I liked

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watching Lamar throw the ball last week and I like
some of the targets that he has out there, Duvernet
and some of those guys. So I like Baltimore to
bounce back and win the ball game. This is Fox
sports radio er towards Jason Martin. One segment left. We
Bank our NFL picks. Also one story. I want to
get to a Jason before we wrap the show. That's

(02:33:34):
all coming up next. This is Fox sports radio. Welcome
back everybody, Fox sports radio. Final segment of the show.
Eron towards Jason Martin coming to you live from the
tire rec dot com studios top of the hour, Bernie Fretto.
He will have so much on the nfl the college
football weekend. That just happened to Bernie Fretto. Show coming
at the top of the hour, Jackson. Before we get

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to our picks really quick, I wanted to ask you
a little hypothetical. Okay, we saw it. We we saw
a kind of an interesting scenario play out in major
league baseball this week. UH, Aaron Judge, going for history,
hits his sixty home run and the fan who caught
the ball decides to give it back, says it's not his,
he's a fan of the Yankees, he loves Aaron Judge, Blah, blah, blah,

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Blah Blah. Then last night at Dodger Stadium game that
I had tickets to and did not go, Albert wools
it's his seven hundred home run and according to Ben
Verlander of our Fox sports uh, he is not. The
Fan that caught the ball is not planning on giving
it back. Said I'm not giving it back, I got
a price. Blah, blah, Blah Blah. If you caught a

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historic home run ball, which direction would you would you
be gone? I guess it would depend on how much
money I already had. I think that that might change
how I felt about it. I understand the idea of
being a gigantic fan and wanting to do this thing.
That's really noble and right by that organization. It's given

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you so much joy, so much excitement and entertainment through
the years. I can understand that rationale. I also really like, Um,
to have more money than to have less money. How
many opportunities are you going to have, exactly? And you're
going to get something out of it? Like I think

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that a lot of the people that would then point
their finger at you and say, look at you, greedy,
and all this kind of stuff, like yes, so would you.
You know, the vast majority of people, if they thought
this thing was worth this amount of money, they would
do that. They would like just because, all right, so
you've got something rare, right, but you're gonna put it
on Ebay for twenty bucks just because, you know, I

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want to make sure that somebody really gets it and
all of this other kind of stuff. You can do
that if you're Warren Buffett, but if you but if
it's me and I catched that ball, yeah, you're gonna
have to come off of something to get that, because
I know you have that. Like I know you have
that money. I know it's not mine, but I was
the one who caught it. It's a lottery ticket, like
you said, and I would ask somebody to pay up. Yeah,

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it was funny. I was on with Dan buyer this weekend.
We talked about it. Is the the only scenario where
I would feel a little bit bad, and I know
don't feel bad for a major league or making millions.
I'd feel bad extorting the individual player, right like like
you know, the the Aeron judge thing, like you know,
supposedly he gave the autograph Bads, he did this, he
did that. Um, I wouldn't want, if I caught Aaron

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Judge's home run ball, to be like hey, Aaron, uh
million dollars or I'm walking now. You know, if he's
got the financial cloud of the New York Yankees behind him,
then you don't feel so bad. Same with pooholes. If,
if it comes down to the cardinals cutting a check
to you as opposed to Pooholes, like that was the
only thing. Is like like somehow the way that the

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judge story was framed when number sixty was the idea
that basically it was Aaron judge. You know, Aaron Judge
would have had to pay out of his pocket if
if you were going to get the ball from him.
So that may said a little bit different, but for
the most part I'm with you. I'm not gonna BE UH,
I'M NOT gonna get high and mighty, uh and and
you know, take one for the team when you're sitting

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on a winning lottery ticket. If I can make six
or seven figures off a historic baseball, then I will
do that. Jason, you mentioned having some notes for your picks,
so let's get to some picks. Wrap the show really
quickly down. I'll take we'll take a little bit of
music if we can. Uh, Jason, it seems like you
you did some homework for this one, so I'll start
with you. What's what's one of your favorite bets in tomorrow? Well,
this one is not one of my favorite bets just

(02:37:28):
because it's my football team. But at Denver Sunday night
football with San Francisco with Jimmy G, they're giving one
and a half to the broncos. Now, Um, I like
them to win by more than that. I am very
kind of concerned about my Guy Nathaniel Hackett at this
point in time. I'm not blown away or enamored with
anything I've seen offensively from Denver. They just and they're

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they're just beating up to they lost a bunch of
guys in the offseason. They keep losing guys. It seems
like it's a work in progress. I think San Francisco
is better with Jimmy g than they were Trey Lance,
at least in the short term, and so I like
them to win that game by more than one and
a half. As I told Dan buyer this week, if
we label literally everyone an offensive genius, then by definition

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nobody is, and I'm worried that Nathaniel Hacketts on the
wrong side of that equation. I'll say this one. You know,
Kansas City open is a five and a half point
favorite at indie. It's down to two and a half.
I don't get it. I don't think indie's good. I
don't trust Frank Reich. They're on their million different quarterbacks
since Andrew Luck retired and Kansas City is rolling man
long week, extra week or extra couple of days of prep.

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I was out on Casey coming into the year. I
feel like I was dead wrong on that. Give Me
Kansas City to win convincingly in Indie. Yeah, see, I'm
with you. I would have liked him at five and
a half right now, like I mean, Jonathan Taylor is
not running the ball in particularly well. The offensive line
is a work in progress at best. Matt Ryan's a
statue and unfortunately that's okay as long as Pittman or somebody,

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as long as you've got weapons. But they just don't
have anything right now and I don't see any reason
to leave that they're going to all of a sudden
wake up against Kansas City. The other one that I
really like, even though it's a big time number, is
Philadelphia minus six and a half against Washington. Washington's defense
has not been good this year, like at all. They've

(02:39:15):
played against decent offense. Is like Detroit is much improved.
I think Jacksonville is a better team that people think
they are, but at the same time the eagles are
Rolland Jalen hurts and especially against the ground. They haven't
been able to stop anybody on the ground. So I
like the Eagles to win big against Washington on the road.
One word, yes or no answer. Jacksonville the best team
in the ANFC south? As as crazy as it sounds,

(02:39:36):
I think it's. I think the fact that you can
even pose the question says it all. I think the
titans are the best team in the A F C
south right now. Also think they could be Oh and
three tomorrow and lose to the raiders. I'm not sure,
but I tend to agree. Jacksonville is on the camp.
We gotta go. Thank you to Don Bo for Jameson Marrow.
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