Up On Game: Hour 2 - Baker Mayfield Brings the Same Old Song and Dance

LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress react to recent comments from Matt Rhule and DJ Moore and explain why all signs point to Baker Mayfield suffering from the same issues that he's always had. The guys preview Sunday night's matchup between the Chiefs and Buccaneers. The guys talk the impact of being drafted to the wrong place, as LaVar chats with former Browns QB Tim Couch in this week's Legendary Moment.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yep, our two we
got legendary moments coming at you. Tim Couch. I went
and saw him in the Bluegrass State. We had a
great conversation. You'll be able to hear some of that
coming up shortly. Matt Rule, d J. Moore. They need
to get open better. Huh. Well, apparently they feel as

(00:24):
though Baker needs to throw the ball better. We'll talk
about that. I know we got two receivers that I
have some opinions on that, the Chiefs and the Bucks.
They're coming off of losses. Who do you think is
gonna have the better chance of bouncing back after that loss?
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Al Right, fellas, Uh, we got a legendary moment here.
And I I don't know how much y'all know about
Tim Couch. Uh. Yeah, I mean he was you know,

(03:19):
he was one of like he was up there with
you know, Peyton Manning coming out of coming out of college.
I mean he was the number one overall draft pick,
uh in the ninety nine draft. I had the opportunity
to play against him in his last college game Um,
it's funny we were talking about Will Levis. I think
the last quarterback to be so highly rated from Kentucky

(03:40):
was Tim Couch before Will Levice's time here. Now, um,
dude was a dope. Dude. Man, he is jacked up.
I mean he and I am mean and whoa, bro,
you can't walking in It made me start rethinking my
life decisions. Man. Like, It's like one thing. I'm like, man,
you know, I go on a little yeah, bro, I

(04:01):
went on a little family vek with t J. You know,
I'll be seeing plex plex gout that that Javon curse.
Look now he looked. He went from looking like a
receiver looking like a defense And I mean, I mean,
I just you know, all these dudes around me, y'all
all be getting in shape, and I'm like out here
looking puny and flabby and weak. I don't know, but
dog Tim Couch looked like like he like could go compete,

(04:25):
like bodybuilding compete not I don't know about football. Man.
He in the gym every single day, That's all that is. Bro.
He getting right out here. Him and his brother are
running a very very successful um financial company affirm where
where they manage they do money managing and doing an
excellent job. Have some really really big accounts that they're

(04:45):
they're doing. I mean, dude is a legend. I mean
when I tell you, the way the people react to him.
So let me give you a little bit of insight
on on on this right. Dude is not only like
a dude that brought the team to prominence in in
in Kentucky Lexington, but so there when the floods took
place in July, if y'all recalled, there was flood flooding

(05:07):
in July, uh in eastern Kentucky on and that's where
he's from, and he jumped, he jumped to it, you know,
brought his resources, um, brought his time, his money is
energy and contributed it to the relief effort and in
the flooding. So he's not only been a hero on
the field, he's been a hero off of it. So

(05:27):
it's it was really cool to be able to go
catch up with him. Um, do you have any memories?
I tell couch I remember couch Man not we all
came out the same year and they say none of
these six And if I'm if my memory serves me correctly,
he was the best, best player in the country that year.
That's correct, that's correct. Yeah, so anyway, but it was him,

(05:48):
Odell James, uh you, Courtney Brown, myself, Joe Ham will
tell me how I mean that class of nineties that
came out of high school, man was it was really
If you look at that list, I believe probably the
top out of the top fifteen players in the country

(06:10):
of nineteen I believe ten of them played in the NFL.
See look at that list. It's pretty impressive. You know what,
it was just unfortunate for him. Man, when you get drafted,
the teams that haven't had success is dysfunctional from the
top to the bottom, and you just collateral damage along
the way. Man, And so it's unfortunate. Brotunate A. T J.

(06:35):
What an amazing segue. Here we go up on game
legendary moment. Game game presents conversations with the legion and
now this is your legendary moment. You go number one
and to the A f C. North I can relate

(06:59):
to you went through a lot of people can't relate
to going into a scenario which Cleveland continues to be
that and Washington continues to be that type of dysfunctional organization.
Coming out. It's exciting to want to be a top

(07:23):
draft pick, to be the number one draft pick, but
with that blessing there comes a curse. It's almost disheartening
to think about when guys that are as talented as
you were and and had so much potential to be

(07:44):
a Hall of Famer at that level end up at
a dysfunctional organization. Yeah, it's it's unfortunately. Like you said,
you know, you're your top pick, but that means you're
going to the worst team. And for me, it was
even harder that year because the Browns were an expansion team.
You know, they just came back in the league. They left,
became the Multimore Race, and then they come back. So
I was the first player ever drafted and then you curachize,

(08:06):
so literally starting from the ground up with this organization. Um,
you know, and Lucky said LaVar Man. When you go
in you all you all you can hear is number
one pick, And of course I want to be in
the number of picnic draft. You're not thinking about how
tough the road is gonna be of being a quarterback
learned expansion team and that kind of thing. Um, But
it hit me pretty quickly the reality of how tough
that was gonna be. Uh. You know my rookie year,

(08:27):
I got sacked fifty six times and fifteen starts, um,
you know, which was an NFL record at the time,
and it was just so it was a beating physically,
but it also takes a toll on you mentally, um,
you know, because at that point, I had never dealt
with failure. If it's not Super Bowl, if it's not playoffs,
it's automatically your bus automatically automatically they're already like I

(08:48):
was called a bus. I made three Pro Bowls. I'm
still called a bus. We're called we're being called bus.
But your quarterback, that pressure level is different. How Like
what or some of the things you had to to
deal with in order to be able to try to steal,
thrive and that type of environment. Yeah, that's that's a

(09:09):
good question. You know. I think you know, when you
come in as a number one pick, there's so many
expectations on you immediately, you know, from your from your fans,
from the media, even your own teammates. You know, your
teammates were sitting in the locker room like, hey man,
you're a No. One pick. We're counting on you. You
gotta go win these games for us and you know,
get us over the hump, you know, kind of get
us going. So that's a lot of pressure. And I
was only twenty years old when I went to the
NFL um in training camp that year. Um, so I

(09:33):
was a young kid out there, man, And you're in
the huddle with guys that are, you know, thirty years
old for ten years, got families and stuff, and it's
a it's a big difference in being in a in
a college huddle. Yeah, man, I mean it was a
great conversation. You could get the whole conversation at up
on game presents. Uh, conversations with a legend. Uh, he's

(09:54):
an impressive dude, man, very humble dude. I really enjoyed
talking with him. Uh what I mean, you guys, what
we considered Cincinnati a dysfunctional organization when you were there,
I'm not sure. I'm I don't know how. I mean,
I've heard when I was saying, I would say I
didn't believe. So as you get out of that and

(10:17):
you go to other teams and you say, you say, yeah,
did you start to realize how dysfunctional it was? Uh? Yeah,
I mean, and there's so much better now, and it's
just one man, and from top to bottom, everybody has
to be on the same page. I remember one time, man,
and I don't even know if this is true or not,

(10:39):
but we ran up play. I want to say. It
was a preseason and literally Will the coach said we
were gonna run this play. He said to us, the
owner wants to run this place, so we're gonna run
it in the first fifteen plays in the game. And
it was a double reverse pass and we got sacked.

(11:01):
And I'm sitting here like like, all right, No Lot
handed it to me. I handed it to Chad. Chad
toss it back to Carson. Sack. Don't look it up.
There's in a prison, No Lot. He told us the
owner wants to run it, and so we ran it.
But I will give him the credit. Things have changed
so much. Marvin Lewis came in there, and he had

(11:22):
a lot to change, and he gradually got it to
where it needs to be. And I don't believe the
dysfunction is there any longer because generally doesn't happen. But
Marvin took dude, y'all, don't under like we didn't have
water or gatorade in the locker room. Bro, when I
got there, like people, like every team had that. I'm

(11:44):
sure the Bankers didn't have an endoor for a cility.
Other right they still don't. Oh my god. So we'd
be outside practicing, bro when it gets like range, no,
hell of blow, they all. I got two pairs of
wets on, I got tights underneath. I got a hoodie own.
I could barely move. But you just that one not?

(12:09):
Do you know how you had the heaters outside during games?
We've had heaters out there for practice. Oh wow, that
ain't it for practice? Wow? Hey man, that was best man.
I played for two of the best organisms, and that's
what I was about to ask you. Now, you played
for two, but you went to one that may be
considered dysfunctional. How different is that? How different is not

(12:31):
when he was playing there? The Jets? The Jets, man,
I don't even he don't count that. But let me
ask you, but let me that that might be the
whole the whole idea of it is is that you
got selective memory for the one team that did that.
Wasn't that imagine if you played you're pretty much your

(12:53):
whole entire career at one dysfunctional place. And you gotta
have that selective memory laws, right. So I only played
I only played four games in the National Football League.
People don't know this. I only played three or four
games in the National Football League because I only played
for the New York Giants. Really, that's all I can remember.
It was so bad. It was so much drama and trauma.

(13:17):
When at the first part it's like a concussion. I
don't even remember the first part of my career. I
just remember the last four games. That's it. That's it, man.
It was. It was just it was more of a business,
isn't for me at that point, um, you know, because
I didn't want to relocate from league uh leaving New
Jersey to go play but for for the forty nanas.

(13:41):
So it was more of a business, isn't the media?
Stay to stay local and lot and not know relocate
my family. So that was the reason why why I
went to the Jets. But how was that like interaction
like the I explained it to everybody, as you know,

(14:03):
when I was in Pittsburgh and even when I went
to the Giants. When you walk in the door in
the morning, did your that attitude is you know what
we're gonna kick. Somebody asked this weekend. It didn't matter
who it was. But for some strange reason, when you
walk through that door and Flooring Park and you go
and you're walking down the hallway, you in your mind

(14:27):
you're just thinking to yourself, I hope we win this week.
And it's just that kind of crazy aura from when
you come from Pittsburgh, the you know the tradition, and
you go to the New York Giants, the way those
two teams run their organizations, and you get there, your
mindset as a player is just, man, I hope we

(14:48):
win a game this week. And that is not the
way you want to be going into into every Sunday.
M hm TJ. It's changed. You feel good about it.
I believe things, which is they're different. And I've been
there in the last few years and they're different. I'm
sure some things remain the same, but but as far

(15:10):
as what I experienced and what I've seen when I'm there,
it's completely different. And I say this, you gotta give
so much credit to Marvin, because only the people that
were there before Marvin. In there with Marvin, we saw
the changes. We didn't. You're gonna laugh at this too.

(15:30):
We didn't. My first two years in the league. We
didn't stay in hotels for home games. We stayed at
the crib. Bro, So imagine we all youngest myself is
Chad as Peter Warrick is Ron Dugan's what you think
we're doing on Saturday night before the game that was out?
We was out, We were out. We didn't stay at hotels.

(15:52):
We stayed at home. And so I mean to like,
I never forget one time. I don't drink right, but
one time guys went straight from the club that was
the name of it, to the facility to the game,
straight from the club to the game, speaking out the

(16:15):
hotel was finding their way out of the hotel. Do
we didn't even have to do that, bro. We was
at the house. Gods was at the house. Dude, I
got a call free game Mills straight from this. I
gotta call LaVar. It was like three thirty in the morning.
I was at home, sleep. I'm like, why my phone
at home at the hotel? Sleep? I'm like, why my

(16:35):
phone keep ringing? Because I stayed in the hotel my
Rickie year. I finally answer it. Somebody called me I
needed to beil somebody out of jail. They got arrested
Saturday night, so I went to Bellam Mount m I
went to Bellam out and they to the stadium and
I went straight to play. Yes, true story. That's a
true story. Hell, you're listening up on game. That's t J.

(16:56):
H's out of Plex coberst that. Oh did you do know?
That's this function though the way my time there, though,
it was so renegade, it was fun. It was fun.
I enjoyed it. I'm not gonna I wouldn't one a
different path, man, it was. My time in Cincinnati was

(17:16):
like no other man the city. I'm still cool with
a lot of people to this day. Um, and they're back.
So here you go. All right, well and here we go.
We're gonna take a quick break. On the other side
of this break, Matt Rule, d J. Moore, let's talk
about it. Is it Baker? Is it the receivers? I
don't know, maybe t J and Plex. Dude, this is

(17:38):
up on game. We'll be right back Fox Sports Radio. Welcome.
Man shouts out to the homie COOLi oh man, man, Yeah,
you know, shouts out to them. You know he's from mendescent.
He was born in mendessent were I had no idea
he was in Pittsburgh, dude. And he ended up in
Cali obviously, but he was born in the Burgh. Shout

(18:00):
south to coolio man, thoughts and prayers to the family. Uh.
Do was a dude in the music industry. Uh, and
welcome back into Up on Game. We're live from the
tiraq dot com studio. I'm LaVar Rington alongside t J
and Plexico. Well that's t J. Wishman's out of and
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Let's code up on Game only at Draft Kings sports Book. Uh. Fellas,
I got some sound here, you know, Sammy and and
and birds put some sound together. I want you all
to listen to this. This is the head coach of

(18:43):
the Carolina Pathers. Yes, my teammate from college, Matt rule
Um and d J Moore. They're talking about what's going
on and how they can make things a little better.
And uh in Carolina I mean, are they on the
same page, are they on different pages? Um? Is what
Matt Rules saying. What it is there is, it's something
different about what D J. Morris says. Let's take a listen.

(19:06):
When Baker gets ense pressure, there's not many guys who
have a better feel for stepping up. Um. You know,
I think it was a challenge and some you know,
the in the second game because of the Bliss package. Um,
I think you know, as we said, we just have
to do a really good job. The line has to
do a good job of just making him feel really
confident with the pocket in front of him. And the
part of its just the time you guys getting open
and being where they're supposed to be. You know, there's
you know what, every play kind of tells its own story.

(19:27):
You know, there's plays where we turn on and someone's
supposed to be running into the window and they're not
quite whe they're supposed to be, and Baker's looking there,
and so all that always falls on the quarterback. You know,
it always falls on the on the play caller. But
we kind of just need everybody to understand that, you know,
they're the most important person on every play. They just
have to do their job and and I think you'll
see those those plays start to happen. It all go handed.

(19:47):
Pretty much. What he said is you gotta get it
on the same page, no matter what. But it really
I don't really got no in depth on on it.
So I just gotta get open. So why aren't you
on the same page. Why doesn't have to be on
the same page. You know, just pitch and catch. It's

(20:08):
still the kids game at the end of the day.
Years it was surprising to hear that, is it surprising?
Got that from him? That don't matter from like, it
don't matter to me. Getting open is getting open? Open
is one yard point five yards open? Is open in

(20:31):
this league? Like quarterback, he doesn't see it that way.
It's cool, they're going to the next read, next person
is open. That goes for everybody in the hard room.
Everybody can get open. It doesn't matter. Where is d J.
Moore from man, because that sounds like he was in
the courtroom and he was making sure that nobody he wanted.
He wanted to get some off his chest, but he

(20:53):
definitely hid. He didn't want to say it. But I'm
gonna tell you this. Anybody that that that knows anything
about this about this league, is that an NFL quarterback
can throw a wide receiver open. I mean, Matt Rude
goes on the goals on the interview and says, you know,

(21:13):
Baker's are well prepared. Just because he's well prepared doesn't
mean he's gonna play well. And I'm so tired of
these uh offers. These are head coaches and owners pointing
the fingers and making other people the scapegoat. I mean, look, look,
let's not pretend that Matt Rule is this exceptional head coach.
And let's not pretend that Ben McAdoo is this elite

(21:36):
play caller who who hasn't coaches two thousand and seventeen
and the and the Giants were ranked in a whopping
twenty seven in the NFL, and and he had Victor
Cruz or Odell Beckham Jr. Sterling Shepherd and Eli Manning
and and he couldn't do nothing. And he couldn't do
nothing with that. And don't let's not pretend that you

(21:59):
thought that Baker the Field was gonna come in and
change his organization around. Baker Mayfield is who he is.
Uh Brown, Cleveland Brown can't change the stripes. Oh my bad,
they ain't got no stripes. So let's not act like
Baker Mayfield. Is this elite quarterback changing organizations and and
you know everybody and everything is going go as playing

(22:23):
and you're gonna win the division. Nobody thought about the
Carolina Panthers. Hey, d J. Morris from Philly and went
to Maryland. He one hundred percent answered that question like
Meek mill or State. Do you know what? You know what?
Spark shots out the Beanie seagull? You know what? And
let me say this, Uh, Robbie Moore is coming off

(22:45):
of three straight thousand in yall season with New York Jet,
so don't tell me he can't get over and d
J Moore He's ranked fifth in the NFL in the
last three years, behind Cooper Cup, Davante Adams, Stefan Dagan,
Travis Kels with thirty us. So don't tell me they
can't get open, get to the who to get to
the who to the problem rule? Or is it the quarterback?

(23:08):
Oh this quarterback after or is it both? It's Ben
McAdoo and Baker Mayfield the blind leading the blood. Wow.
See this is the thing. It's the same song and dance.
Did he not? Were they not just saying this last
year in the same song. What Plex said is a
quarterback and throw you open. Yes, Baker wants to see

(23:31):
you open. How many clips did we see if O
b J opened last year and he wouldn't pull the trigger,
he would not throw the ball. That's just not something
he's comfortable with. And what rubbed DJ Moore wrong was
Matt Rule was basically saying, it's the receiver's fault. It's
not Baker's fault. That's basically what he was saying. It's

(23:52):
the receiver's fault that we're not having his success throwing
the ball. It's not the quarterbacks fault. So before you
guys blame the quarterback, let's look and everything. And so
he was biting his tongue like I'm open. I played
with lesser quarterbacks at least from a draft status, and
I've done work. I played with Teddy Bridgewater, I played

(24:14):
with Sam Donald, I played with p J. Walker, and
I've done well in my career. Why can't I play
well with Baker Mayfield. He does not feel comfortable throwing
the ball unless he sees you wide open. That that's
just basically what it is. Baker Mayfield is not the
answer in Carolina. We knew he was gonna be the

(24:37):
starter once they traded for him. He's not the answer.
Will be a whole new regime up there. Next year,
that role will be gone, Baker will be gone, and
they'll be rebuilding again or restarting, however you want to.
But Baker Mayfield is the same song and dance is
last season. Guys are open, He's not throwing him the ball.
It can't be two years in a row the same situation.

(25:00):
But it's only one constant. It's one common denominator. That's
Baker Mayfield of being a quarterback in both of those situations. Uh,
if I'll tell you this, if it doesn't work out
in some ways, somehow, Matt Rule loses his job, I
feel like this is it for Baker? Like this, this

(25:21):
is is it for Matt Rule too? If they don't
fix it. If they don't fix it, that's that's that's
a rap. But here's the thing. Though Matt Rule was
is a fine college football coach, it doesn't always. I mean, man, listen, man,
start giving these other dudes that have been grinding chances.
They keep recycling the same people. If you have to
find college football coaches should have stage of button college. Yeah,

(25:44):
well he probably gonna end up taking in five years. Yeah, well,
we'll see what happens. I know who's find out what
they do and it is up for no debate. He's
one of the greats. He's the legendary Isaac Loewing cron
Watch this, Watch how well he does. Watch how he crush.
He's gonna crush this outdate. Let's let's let's hear what

(26:06):
you got, what fine and what I do And let's
face it, just fine in general, gonna be honest, fine man,
big fine man. Indeed, biggest story in college football right now.
Number eighteen Oklahoma, five minutes out of the second quarter,
losing at TCU thirty four. Hello, did you see that

(26:27):
hit that number nine put on Dylan Gabriel? Oh, he
should be thrown out the next two three? He's playing football. Hey,
the dude was He was sliding way before he got hit.
They'll be aftermath in that. In the meantime. On the
offensive side of the ball, though, TCU quarterback Max Duggan

(26:51):
twelve out of eighteen for a hundred fifty nine yards
That includes a seventy three yard touchdown pass to Taye
Barber dugging himself. Also a ran for a sixty seven
yard at touchdown. Fourth rank Michigan a thirteen to nothing
halftime lead at Iowa. Also at halftime, Number fourteen Old
Miss leading, seventh rank Kentucky nineteen to twelve per Due

(27:14):
a ten three lead a Number twenty one Minnesota with
twenty eight seconds left to play in the second quarter.
Number twenty five Kansas State a thirteen to ten halftime
lead over Texas Tech. In the NFL today, the Cleveland
Browns officially ruled out defensive end Miles Garrett for Sunday's
game at Atlanta. Garrett sustaining a sprained left shoulder and
a right viceps strain, as well as cuts and bruises

(27:36):
in a single vehicle crash on Monday. The New England
Patriots ruled out receiver Jacobe Myers for Sunday's game at
Green Bay due to a knee injury. In Major League Baseball,
the Yankees and Orioles are underway at Yankee Stadium after
half an hour rain delay. There In the top of
the first hitting no score, Aaron Judge will go for

(27:57):
number sixty two leading off the bottom of the first
inning for the Yankees, who before the game places left
handed relievers Zack Britton on the sixty day injured list
with left shoulder fatigue, ending his season finally fellas in
the NBA, New Orleans Pelicans forward Larry nance Jors agreed
to a two year, twenty one million dollar extension. Back

(28:18):
to you, alrighty, back into the show. Appreciate that man.
How tc you got thirty four points nine minutes left
in the second quarters. Thirty four points and they probably
lose his offense. Wow? And Brett Venables he supposed to
be his defensive guru. Huh. Well, speaking of manses and

(28:40):
and offenses and all that stuff. Chiefs in the Bucks,
let's talk about it. Uh, they got each other Sunday night.
Who has the better shot of bouncing back from their
Week three losses that the Chiefs is at the Bucks? Wow?
This this both teams, Uh need this win. The Chiefs

(29:04):
are playing good football defensively, offensively, It's it's a struggle
for him man without Tyreek Hill. It's a struggle that
they're not creating big plays. They're not getting those chunk
yardish players that are used to my Homes is playing better,
I mean playing better. He's still playing well, but just
that big chunk that fear that I believe defense is

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played when they played the chief They're not playing with
that fear any longer. The Bucks are beat up man,
Mike Evans will be back. Well. I don't believe God's
gonna play and believe Hudio is gonna play. I would
take the Bucks in this game just because I believe
defensively they're gonna make him play with one hand and
they're gonna stop the running force from to throw the ball.

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They don't have Tyreek Hill out there, so that they're
gonna really just play, man and man it's gonna I
believe the Bucks will win, but just the way that
the Chiefs are winning. But man, they're being forced to
play a brand of football that would haven't seen them
play now since Patrick Mahomes have been has become the quarterback,
and it's gonna be interesting to see if they can
sustain this all year, just dink and dunk type offense. Yeah,

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it's been an adjustment period for the for the UH,
for the Chiefs moving forward without Cheetah, but the guys
that they bought in mvs and and Juju Smith Schuster,
those guys are just not getting open. And the Tom
Tempa Bay Buckers Temp Bay has has the best defense
in football. But this this is a game that I

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think the Chiefs will definitely when. I just don't think
the Bucks gonna bounce back from that from that lost
last week and green Baby where they playing at Campam. Yeah,
I'm going with Kansas City for this woman that they
have to get on track if if they want to
win the a f C U West, which which I
which I picked, m hmm, I'm going with I really

(30:55):
am going to go with Casey on this one. I
think it'll be tight. Uh. I don't think that it
will be a runaway game, but I do believe that
just based off of what I'm watching. While I have
a lot of of you know, confidence and a lot
of um, well, I guess I really like a lot
of the players. I mean, David and and White on

(31:18):
that that Tampa defenses is amazing. I like the defense
affront um, but Clark and and those guys you know upfront,
Chris Jones up front. I just think that that's going
to be a difference when when when Tom Brady can't
get rid of that ball very quickly the way that
he wants to and efficiently, it recks the entire offense

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of game plan for them. And and so that that really,
you know, Tom Brady is really a guy that's based
off of having that rhythm, having that timing, and knowing
exactly where he wants guys to be and when he
wants them to be there. When guys are flashing in
his ace, you know, and you got you gotta make

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shift offensive front. You know, you got some guys that
are banged up on the front. Smith is banged up. Um.
I just don't see them being in the proper, proper
place personnel wise to be able to get through a
game with the type of team that Kansas City you know,
can be and what they are. So while I think
they are different and and not as good, not as

(32:25):
explosive as they were, I mean, how could they be, um,
But I do think that they will be able to
get through Tampa Bay on this game. So I think
it's more likely for the Bucks to bounce back. But
put this on you guys, after this break, we're gonna
do up on game down on games. So the cool
thing you just said you like the Chiefs, but you

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think the Bucks gonna bounce that. I'm sitting I'm the
Chiefs are gonna win. I'm so I'm sitting here reading
my nose because I'm getting us to break. Um. We
got up on game down on Game coming up, my badge,
it's the Chiefs. I'm taking the Chiefs. All My reasoning

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is for the Chiefs. That's for the Chiefs to bounce
back against the Bucks. My apology. But with that being said,
we do have up on Game down on Game coming up,
and you know, as you all heard, you know they
like to pick on me because well I'm the best
add up on game down on games. So you know,
we'll make our picks when we get back on the
other side. To wrap the show up, Uh yeah, we're

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And let's break this up. Let's back at all down
on game alright, Ryan be tell him who's one in first?

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And then let's get into it. Man, Who's who's in
the league, Who's who's out in front? You know, all
of you guys did well last week. It was actually
a pretty solid week. LaVar. You went to two and
one on your picks and two and three on the totals.
We we put in the player props into the totals there,
Uh t J two and one on your picks, three
and two on your totals, editing Plaxico three and oh

(35:16):
on the picks four and one on the totals will
go come home. It's still in the first place, in
the first place. Uh well, t J's hit the most
picks correctly. Of course, of course that's what I do.
Three and four. Let's go, all right, let's go, let's

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go start us something started. Some placks will go first
on this one. Bills at Ravens. Bill's favorite minus three
Draft King Sports Book over under here is fifty one,
so Plaxico taken away. I'm going over fifty one, and
I am taking the Ravens. Oh LaVar, I'm taking the

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over on the points and the Bills will cover. The
Bills are gonna wins, the Bills will cover. Okay, I'm interesting.
I'm gonna take the over. This is a tough game
choose from. For sure, I believe it will be more
than fifty one points. And because the Ravens uh are
playing at home, they're getting three points. I'm gonna take

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the Ravens with plus three. Yeah, I'll take the Ravens
plus three over all, right, and let's focus in on
this match up here. Stefon Diggs. His receiving yard total
is said at eighty three and a half LaVar will
start with your under over. There's a reason why they're
going to win. And keep in mind the stats. The

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stat says that if if Stefon Dicks catches for over
a hundred yards, the Buffalo Bills wins. So I'll be
over a hundred. I'm going under eighty three for stuff
on Wow Blacks Wow, we're thinking the same thing. I'm
going under as Well's where I take the lead. Here's
to be me where I take it back. Here we go.

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Uh t J will start with you on this one.
Patriots at Packers package favorite minus nine over under, here's forty.
I'm gonna go with the under. Neither team shown a
propensity to score a lot of points. Uh Man, Brian
Hire is gonna be the starter nine minute NFL Man,
I'm taking the Patriots. It's a lot of points. I'm

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taking Green Bay. I'm taking over the points. I believe
Green Baby with apology school of thirty four or thirty
five points and the Patriots will score a touchdown. So
that's gonna be over forty and I'm taking Green but seven. Yeah,
I'm gonna go with I'm with plex on this one.
I'm taking it over and I'm taking the point. That's
where I take the lead. Right there. We'll do one

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more here, uh plaques taking away rams at forty niners
Niners favorite minus one and a half over under forty
two and a half. I'm taking over on the forty
two and a half and I'm taking the RAMSI's rams
and over. I agree, I agree, So there you go.
All right there, it is all right. Thank you Ryan Beat,

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thank you Sam Burst, thank you Ilo for me, for
t J and Plex. Hey, you've been put up one game.
Make sure you stay tuned in. Jonas Notch show is
coming up next. Is fine content, great dude, I know
him pretty well. All right, this is it for us.
We're gonna watch some football, y'all. Enjoy y'all weekend man. Peace,