November 12, 2022 • 40 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress discuss Davante Adams' recent comments on the state of the Las Vegas Raiders. The guys examine if the Chargers are mishandling the talent of Justin Herbert. Rhett Butler of Pritty Left Hook Podcast joins the guys to preview UFC 281 and discuss Jake Paul defeating Anderson Silva. LaVar chats with NASCAR Star Joey Logano in this week's Legendary Moment, and the guys make their picks for Week 11 in the NFL!
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yep. Legendary moment. This week.
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Joey Lagano, NASCAR Cup Series Leader. We're also gonna touch
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talk about the big UFC fight coming up and Silva. Yeah,
well we'll talk about that, Paul. Yep, that's that's that happened.
Uh So we're gonna get to that. We're gonna get
to Steve Young and what he believes the Chargers mishandling
of Justin Herbert, which is interesting considering t J thinks
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Tell a friend. Uh some good conversation that took place
in the first hour. We talked about Jeff Saturday and
what he had going on. J J. James Jackson got
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on the Jets doubters. Uh, seems like Plexico Stilla Hayter
nonbeliever of the Jets. Davante Adams. Uh, Well, we didn't
get to that, did we. But we didn't pay off
that one, but we did pay off the Russell Wilson,
Pete Carroll, uh and the Wrist Band. So we got
a lot to get to. In fact, let's start the
hour off with Davonte Adams being upset before we go
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to our legendary moment with NASCAR Cup Series leader Joey Logano.
I gotta pay off the pay off the tease? Uh, Ryan,
What what did Davonte Adams had to say in terms
of the struggles with the Raiders. I mean, we talked about, uh,
what's taking place with Jeff Saturday. They are ironically or
coincidentally enough, going to play the Raiders this week. What
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did Davonte have to say? Well? Per Adam Hill of
the Las Vegas Review Journal, Uh, Davante was talking about
if things don't change in Las Vegas. Quote, I've got
no business being in this building. If you think that
the only way I'm going to get the ball is
when I'm singled up, then I'm going to have four
catches on the year. I think that when you have
certain players, you do what you can to get them opportunities.
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And that's why I'm here. That's why they paid me
to come here and make plays. Mm hmm uh. The
translation is y'all, y'all suck. Throw me the dawn ball
is translation, I don't damn if I'm in single coverage
with double code. Ye give me an opportunity to make
a play. That's exactly what he's saying. Told me to downball, Derek.
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I don't huh, I don't understand it. We had this
conversation when when the great number seventeen what out of
the building in Green Bay, and I remember him saying
something to the extent of, I left green Bay to
pursue my best possible opportunity to win a championship. Now
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Adams is my favorite whide receiving all the football. I'm
a little bit biased also because he wears number seventeen
and some of the you know, the movements and some
of the gracefulness that he moves with it reminds me
of myself. But that's neither here nor there. What I'm
saying is I listened. I heard what he said, but
he didn't mean it that way, because there's no way
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you uproot yourself out of Green Bay. You go to
Las Vegas Raiders and play with Derek car and you're
saying that you're giving yourself the best opportunity and when
to the Super Bowl. I didn't believe that when he
made that remark, and now it's all kind of playing
out not exactly the way that I thought it would be.
Because I thought that the Raiders would be more competitive
this seas and with Hunter went thro Darren Waller and
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DeVante Adams. Those three guys group together, I thought that
they would have one of the most explosive offenses in
all of football. But he's in a situation to where
when he makes that comment, where he doesn't need to
be in the building. Nothing changed here soon In Las Vegas,
Aaron Rodgers would throw him the ball in double coverage
and he would throw them open. Devanta Adams will make
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spectacular plays that nobody on this earth would make, and
the uh, Derek Carr is not giving him that those opportunities.
But when you're talking about elite and good quarterback, and
there's a major difference, because Aaron Rodgers would put the
ball into places to where he could throw DeVante Adams
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open and single coverage, in double coverage, Derek car doesn't
have that kind of ability. I mean, there's nothing that
I don't have anything against him, But when you put
the two guys on a scale. I mean, it's it's
glaring that who is the more elite quarterback making the
decision and throwing him to football and both teams are struggling,
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Green Bay and the Raiders. But for Davante Adams, I
can say that he is a better player and a
better wide receiver than what the that the Las Vegas
Raiders are putting in front of him. He's saying, you
know what, just put it all on me. I can
handle it, and I love that as a player as
a wide receiver. But as far as where he's at
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right now with eight nine games into the season, I've
said to myself when I watched the Raiders play, if
Davonte Adams is in senior coverage, I don't give a
damn what routers on the table. You throw him to football,
and then there's a quarterback. You make decisions and going
into the game if you want to make that decision
to throw him the ball in a double coverage or
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to throw him open, or whatever the case may be.
And I understand his frustration, but as far as him
saying that, I don't need to be in the building
and if anything changes in the near future, homeboy, you
ain't going nowhere. You locked in for a little bit
of time. So you and Derek Carr need to get
on the same page. Y'all need to get comfortable because
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you're gonna be paying together for the next you know,
four or five years of your career. And now you're
in the prime of your career. So I don't know
what they need to do to fix it, but seventeen,
you ain't going nowhere. You and Derek Carr need to
figure it out. T J. It's uh. I said it
when he left Green Bay. Green Bay was gonna fall
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off a cliff. I said it. Aaron Rodgers was not
gonna perform well, I said it, And they don't know.
He's gonna elevate everyone. Davante Adams has had five really
good games this year, really good and so it's not
as if he's an playing well. The problem is his
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really good games are followed by one catch for three yards.
So he'll have ten catches for a hundred fifty and
then the next game one catch for three yards on
two targets. You're like, huh, how you have three catches
for a hundred and twenty five yards against the Kansas
City Chiefs, three catches what and so this is not
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on Derek Carr. This is on Josh McDaniels. This is
on Josh McDaniels. Stop calling plays and called plays for players.
It's not about your plays, bro, It's about the players.
And when you think it's your plays, it's when you've
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gone wrong. It's about the players. Hunter Renfro has been out.
I believe he's on I R now again, or he
he missed games because it's concussion, but now he's on
I R. Darren Waller has been out. Now he's on
I R. And so right now all they have is
Davante everybody knows that as well, and they need to
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figure this out. But that's all we had in Green
Baby was But Aaron Rodgers is talented enough to where
and they played together for a long time. Yeah, you
play with car in college. It's been a long time
since you've played with him. You gotta rekindle that relationship,
so to speak. It's not just gonna happen overnight. But
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Josh McDaniels needs to put Davontae Adams in situation to
where the ball is gonna come his way often. He
needs to get twelve to fifteen targets every single game.
I don't care how you do it. Get it done.
I don't care how you do it. Get it done. One.
You don't give up what you gave up, and you
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don't pay them what you pay them not to do that.
And so this to me, if it was on Josh M. Daniels,
it's not on Derek Carry. And they may want to
pay Derek Carry is as de Vellain. And this is
a guy that said fault. Yeah he's a quarterback. But
everybody that's in that huddle knows when that play is called.
Who this balls designed to go to. We all know it. Oh,
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you line up as coverage, I ain't getting the ball.
You're just from looking at the corverage on this ball
ain't coming to me. That shouldn't matter. I feel exactly
what you're saying because when I was in Prisburg, I
was in a position to where I was just an
X Y receiver and we would tag routes on the backside.
It will be plex, plex, plex, and and that men.
If I got to roll up corner the cover too,
no matter what route I have, if it changes outside
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a quick game, I was running the dig because I
had half field coverage. And now now I go to
New York and we made the adjustment to I was
getting so much double team, which I had never been
in the slot before. Kevin Gilbert would put me in
the stop on third down and that opened so many
things up with him in the offense, because all you
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could do from an in side slot perspective was brackting
me with a linebacker the safety. And now now I
have Smithy, I have Steve Smith, I have a Monty
tumb of Germany shocking guys on the outside who are
drawing single coverage. And now that puts everybody on the situation. Well, listen,
I gotta beat one man. And the offense started to grow.
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So then going into the season, as a season progressed,
they will put me in third down on the slot,
and teams had to make a decision, and it just
opened our offense up to the point to where, you
know what, if they're gonna put him in the slot
on third down, We're gonna bracken him and put everybody
else in the man a man situation asked them to
beat us, and that was one of the main reasons
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why our offense took the step that it did because
Kevin Gilbride recognized that, just like Devanti Adams was going through,
you put them on the edge one third down, they're
gonna take them away. But now when you put them
in the slot, you're forcingto the defense to make a
decision if they want to double le bracken them. And
now everybody else on the outside has an opportunity to
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work man on man and y'all have now just been
put up on Game Jeez. I love the breakdown of it.
I love the analysis of it, and it makes total sense.
So Josh McDaniels, I hope he was taking a little
bit of time or somebody took a little bit of
time to hear this segment so that you could take
some of that extraordinary offensive prowess that you have going
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on percolating in your head and make that adjustment. All right,
here we go, we're gonna take a quick break. On
the other side of the break, we're gonna get to
a legendary moment with current NASCAR Cup Series leader Joey Logano,
and we're gonna bring on Rep Butler from Pretty Left
Hook podcast on up on Game Network. Alright, Sugar Radio, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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it is. Yeah, Hey, but Aaron nor Davante are on
sugar Hill right now. It's more like, well that's Hilltops
really doing real well at all. It's all day. We'll
be right back a second second. Right, you welcome back
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do it all. You know, we should get a segment
to what we just you know, get some new music
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of that, we got Ret Butler of up on Game
coming up with pretty left hook after the update. But
right now you mentioned different genres, different categories. Let's jump
into uh yeah, this week's legendary moment with Joey Logano
and NASCAR check it out on the game presents conversations
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with a legend. It's a two times champion. This is
your legendary moment? What got you into Nascar? Like Hermie
Sadler is one of my close friends. He's a legend
in the game. He's been around for a while. The
Sadler family are are are people of my dear friends.
(15:52):
It's interesting to hear the stories of how people get involved.
While I used to ride my my big Will, and
my big Will felt good to me, and then it
turned into a goat card and then next thing you know,
it went from there or whatever. What was your journey
into NASCAR? Honestly similar to that. I had a I
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loved cars, right, I was a kid that that loved
a lot Rods. I loved just you know, seeing cars
around um and then I gotta go cart for Christmas
one year that was that was it as a little
yard cart. And every day I got home it was
like plockwork. I got home, I jumped in my goat
cart and I'd go tear up the yard and neighbor's yards,
their mailboxes, whatever was in my way. I knocked it over.
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I promised you that, and I loved it. Like my
parents realized that, hey, Joey's isn't a love feeling this.
I don't know. They didn't have any racing background. I
was the board in Connecticut, I you know, I was
living up there, and um, you know, they realized that
I had passed for it. And over time you start racing,
you know, different series, is a lot of different things
that kids can do for you know, start raising a
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little leite type type racing stuff. Was cars got quarter
midgets and legends cars and different things than as you
get older than cars get bigger and more powerful and
all that stuff. Um, and eventually you hope to land
a job at a big race team, right and um,
for me, been at Team Pensky here for over ten years.
We've had Shell on the car for that long as
well as four two and and everything's just really clicking now, um,
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mean and obvious, there was a lot of there's ups
and downs, just like any other U sport. And you
learn a lot in land light and one makes judgments
on that and that's just part of the sport and
part of this growing up in this type of world.
But um boy, it's cool to live out your dream, right.
This is it. When I was six years old and
Santa Claus brought that go card, this was it, Like
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NASCAR Champion. That was the goal from that day on.
There was never a plan B. There's never a thought
of doing something else. Is that's what I want to
do and was able to just kind of focus in
and do that and to see it all, you know,
come to life over the years. And being able to
celebrate with your family after winning a championship, there's no
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better moment than that. You know, it is like the
first you know, fifteen minutes or so after you win
a championship, if you'll see your team there, uh and
you see everybody hanging out that that really is part
of it. And then you see your family and that's
just wheneverything you just break down, right, that is just
everything comes together and it's the cool, very cool moments.
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ain't fooling with us. For fooling with us, I'm trying
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trying to make my work. But you know who ain't
fooling with the chargers? And how Justin Herbert's being handled
right now? Your boy Steve Young? Well okay, well there
you go. Uh here's what Steve Young had to have
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had to say about it. I'm interested to hear what
you guys think about it. He is that guy, but
I don't believe he's got the help. And we just
talked about how you need help and he's not getting it.
He's not getting yet philosophically, he's also not getting your talent.
But he's also that, you know, just the strategically, what
who are we? Who are the Chargers? And if you, Adam,
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if you had to say you who are the Chargers?
They're gut their team offensively, I mean offensively, they're I
don't know, they're a little bit more like the Hardinals,
like I always make fun of the Cliff Kings were
very uh Kyler Murray kind of winged offense like hey,
you know, well we're winging it. Who knows? And I
feel like the Charges are that way with less of
(20:11):
a plan, Like so I'm you can tell I'm I'm
not for the like I'm not for the Chargers, and
I don't think they're really doing a great job of
taking care of a generational talent. And I'm worried about that.
I'm worried that the people there that don't understand it,
that don't understand what needs to happen and how they're
being lapped by other teams who do. M H. Now
(20:33):
that's them. With some harsh words from Steve Young and
and you know, obviously speaking of of Justin Herbert and
and the lack thereof of development or whatever it may be,
culture identity of of this. Uh. This Chargers saying now,
t J, you just put them in the playoffs and
said they were the wild card team coming out of
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the a f C West doesn't sound like Steve Young
fields the same way Steve Young is basic when when
I look like Anthony Lynn was their head coach, they
were better with Anthony Lynn than they are now. And
they said Anthony Lynn can't do a good job of
developing Herbert. The offense wasn't uh progressing the way they've liked.
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Let's see what they do now. Uh. This is an
indictment on Joe Lombardi, his ability to be creative, his
ability to bring the best out of Justin Herbert. This
this is all Joe Lombardi because we know Brandon Staley
is a defensive guy. When you're a defensive coach, you
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spend the majority of your time on that side of
the ball. You're in those meetings, you run those meetings,
and you check in with that offensive staff just to
make sure. But this is on Joe Lombardi. But it's
gonna fall on Staley because he's the head football coach.
They need to get creative. They have way too much
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talent the Chargers do, at least on paper to play
their way they're playing in I don't understand where. Oh yes,
Justin Herbert is a generational talent, but at some point
in time when you're a generational talent and you're not
good of a player, sometimes you know, it's like, it
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don't matter what the coach do. I got it. It
don't matter what he called. I got it. I totally
disagree with Steve Young, I really do, because I believe
offensively that Justin Herbert has all the weapons that you
could possibly have. I mean, granted, uh, Keenan Allen has
been hurt throughout the season. He is Mike Williams is out.
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Author Ekela is statistically one of the top five backs
in all of football. And it all comes down to coaching.
And it's one thing about the the the Charges that
has resonated with them since the beginning of the time,
since Rodney Harrison and Junior of the late great Junior
and Say has passed on, is that the Charges off.
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Next team, we're gonna throw the football, We're gonna mix
in some run obviously when they had a Daney and
that that was a whole different, uh, realm of players
and involved generation one of the best backs of all time.
But defensively, you could do anything that you wanted to
against the Charges because they just weren't a physical football team.
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And that's just the nature of maybe, uh the Charges
have been over the last you know, twenty years as
I can remember it. If the Charges want to compete,
I believe that they will make the playoffs. Like you said,
Lombardi is gonna have to put Herbert in some better
situations as a quarterback. Are they failing him as far
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as the growth is concerned, I don't think so. I
just think that the Charges have to play better defense,
and they recognize that when they bought Khalil mackin and
they already have Derban James. They just have to find
a way to play some defense they can score points.
So I don't know if if Steve Young is a
die hard Charges fan or not, But offensively, I think
when everybody is healthy, they have everything that they need
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to take that step and to maybe not win the
a FC West, but to get into the playoffs. I
do believe that. So justin Herbert. He's on this way up.
He hasn't even become into his prim yet. He may not.
He may not even be a Charger in the next
four or five years of depending on what's gonna happen.
I'm not worried about him as a player. He's going
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to continue to grow because he's that talented. But from
an offensive and defensive standpoint for the Charges, they just
gotta find a way to stop people. They got everything
that they need offensively to win football games. We got
up on game down on game coming up in a
matter of we'll say thirteen minutes or so. But right
now we're gonna get a trending topics from our man,
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Isaac blow Akron, and we'll have Rhett Butler on the
other side of this. What we got we got Number
seven l s You having a tough time at Arkansas Fellas. Yeah,
they just went to half time. LSU has the lead,
but only six to three over Arkansas. Arkansas had five
sacks in the first half. Number two Ohio State of
twenty eight to seven over Indiana. The final minute of
(25:22):
the first half. Fifth rank Tennessee has just scored a
touchdown to go up twenty eight to fourteen over Missouri
three thirteen left to play in the second quarter. Number
twenty Notre Dame now leading it over Navy thirty five
to thirteen with one ten left to play in the
second quarter. Today, NFL Players Association President J. C. Trader
(25:42):
issued a statement calling for the immediate replacement and ban
of all silt film turf, which is a type of
synthetic turf that Trader says is associated with higher injury
rates than all other types of surfaces. Trader says silk
film turf is used in the home stadiums of the Saints, Vikings, Bengals, Colts, Lions, Giants,
(26:04):
and Jets. A number of NFL players tweeting their support
of Trader's statement already today, including Giants safety Landon Collins,
who tweeted, quote billions made off the game, and yet
we can't get safe playing surfaces to do our jobs.
Enough is enough unquote. Finally, in Major League Baseball, ESPN
(26:25):
reported today the world champion Houston Astros reliever Rafael Montero
has agreed to a three year, thirty four million dollar extension.
Fellas all yours, we appreciate that. Il A lot going
on in the world of sports, and we'll keep that going.
With UFC to eighty one, we got our man Rep
Butlers Uh, Pretty Left Hook podcast of knowledge is about
(26:50):
to be dropped on your head ready for the Big
States like an upper cut to the chip. Here's Red
Butler from Pretty Laptop. I ain't worried about just keep hate.
I ain't worried about keep hating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,
(27:12):
we got a man Rep Butler in a pretty left
book podcast on up on Game Presents Network. What's going
on with you? My guy m J. Plex fault was good,
baby Farms. Congrats on your college Football Hall of Fame
and joke well deserved, appreciate, Thank you, little job. Hey,
(27:32):
so we got some some some fireworks in the making
with this this UFC UM matchup in eight to eighty one.
Just give us, give us your take on it. What
should we be looking for? What? What's exciting? You know,
what's what's what's the word on it? Absolutely first and foremost,
(27:52):
this is Israel Otisania's time, the last style bender straight
out of Aukland, New Zealand by way of Nigeria. This
guy is a problem, you know what I'm saying. Connor
McGregor obviously really lit M M A on fire with
what he's done in the game and since his injuries,
and you know, he has a one in a few years.
As we all know, Israel Otison has been holding it
down for the UFC and this is a major moment
(28:12):
for him because this guy, Alex Pereira, has defeated him
twice in kickboxing. Many people don't know, Israel Otisan, you
had an extensive career as a kickboxer around the world.
He's had like almost a hundred kickboxing matches. Alex Pereira
has his number though. In kickboxing he's beat him twice.
Second time he knocked him out with a pretty left
(28:33):
hook which was apropo in the third round um under
a minute. So Pereira is walking to this feeling pretty confident,
especially because right now Israel is the golden boy to UFC.
He has the best energy, the best charisma, and they're
doing this in Madison Square Garden tonight main event. So
all lies on him. But I think for Israel, he
knows this is time to really show that he's gonna
(28:56):
dead all past transgressions. Hey, Red, let me tell you something.
I got invited to go to the UFC fight tonight
as Madison square guard, and I said, absolutely, I'll be there.
I had no idea who was fighting until you just
told me you got a good one. But I'll be
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in a building front check me out, hey, Red I
I actually went back and watched uh the second fight
a couple of a couple of days ago. I to
sign you had him on the roads, bro he was.
He had Pereira pretty much out on his feet, and
then kickboxing they gave him a standing eight count. Got
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you got the gloves on, they gave him a standing
eight count, which allowed Pereira to recover, and then the
next round he caught him with the left hook in
it and if you watch it, to sign you was
kind of pulling back a little bit trying to get
his right hand back, and it's perfectly time punched. With
that being said, when I watched the fight, that second
(30:01):
fight out of he dominated him. He dominated him. So
now you go to the UFC smaller gloves, bigger ring,
which was which is an octagon. I feel like outa
Sign is gonna win this fight rather easily because so
much has been made of these kickboxing victories. It's completely
different ballgame. You got smaller gloves, and I was listening
(30:23):
to the great Daniel Cormier say, pere comes down from two,
so he's a big man. Well, that play a part
in it, just him shrinking down and wait, he's big
power and out of sign. You may have some type
of ghosts, but I thought he was dominating that second fight. Yeah,
I think you're absolutely on point. I mean, first of all,
(30:43):
the weight has already played a part because if you know,
Alex Perreira almost didn't make weight yesterday. So this man
took the last last two minutes of um the way
in to make weight. He went in the first time,
didn't make it. They left commission normally gives you, like
up to two hours to how to take a dump,
do what you gotta do to lose that last found
and it took him to the last two minutes before
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the fight would have not been a title fight. So
let's be clear, you were right on point with this information.
This man already might have drained himself, we do not know,
but if they had, he had to give stripped all
the way down to get into the black box to
make that wait. So that's first second. I absolutely agree.
The first fight out of Sania claims that he got
robbed by the judges. I would tend to agree. I
thought that fight um out of saying you looked just
(31:27):
as good as he did in the second fight. Obviously
in the second fight it was a well placed left hook,
But to your point, anybody could have won that fight
if that if that punch didn't happen, and it was
leading more towards Autosania at that point in terms of
the cards. So I think in this game number one,
let's be clear, Alex Perreira does not have the inn
cage experience that Ezra Outisania does and kickboxing is very
(31:47):
different to your point, So I believe Outisani is going
to dominate as well. I think he's in his bag
right now and I don't see no fight taking him off.
I want to I want to talk about this Anderson
Silver Jake paul I was there. I mean, Anderson the
Spider is one of the most legendary UFC fighters. He's
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one of those guys where your respect factor for him,
your admiration factor for him, like he's he's like going
like that whole like Macheetah and you know, like the
O G s of O G s in in the
fight game. He gets into the ring with Jake Paul
in a boxing match. You say you were there, Just
(32:30):
give me. I mean, at some point we gotta stop
hating on Jake Paul as if he's like, uh, you know,
as if he's like a gimmick guy. Even though he
hasn't fired a real boxer. He's still the dude. Still
can fight, man, Yes he can. All right, bar, I
got a couple. I'm not God, bro, I'm so glad
you brought this south bar good good. Many things to
(32:51):
tell you. So. First of all, I was at the
fight shoutout to showtime holding boxing and MVP. The hired
me to run the back of house. I've known ed
over for years since his first fight in the UFC
when he destroyed Chris Leban in one round. Let me
tell you first and foremost, all of the conspiracy theorists
ain't no athlete on that level trying to throw no fights,
no games, no nothing. We'll stop playing these games, all right.
(33:13):
At the end of the day, Let's give Jake Paul
his just due. Anderson was given Jake Paul the business.
We all saw that, and if I was their ringside,
Jake Paul was missing a lot of shots. So my
biggest um concerned with that fight was the was the judges.
The scores were egregious. Let's be clear, there's no way
Jake Paul should have won by that margin. Now with
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that being stated, yes I did knock him down, No
I Look, I look at that as a slip with
a perfectly time punch. That's what and the reason. A
lot of times knockdouts are perfectly tips. But look, hey,
but look the surface. Look, I'm not gonna make no
uses for that man. He got up quick, That's what
I'm gonna saying. He got up, he got up on
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his knee, and he was up. But at the end
of the day, I'm not hating on Jake Paul. Look
as a person that is a purist in boxing, I
literally was convinced after working with Jake Paul all week
this kid is legit. I love the way his team,
although extremely deep, they love this guy. He needs that energy.
He deserves the energy. He's working hard, he looks great,
(34:16):
and he's generating money. Like I'm not. I'm not mad
at this new generation of YouTube boxers that they take
it serious. If you're gonna do a side show on
a gimmick, miss me. But if you're gonna put into
work in the time, let Jake Paul. I'm not mad
at you because he did his thing in the face
Anderson Silva and only what six seven fights yo? That
for anybody else, that's a suicide mission. So you gotta
(34:38):
get that man. Respect man, you can find Ratt. We
gotta get out of here. I I apologize, but if
you want to hit him with a quicker one, go
go ahead. Plex God heyd We just keep every time
we have young man, we keep going back to the
same topicord where we say that with that Errol Spence
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in terms Crawford terms, Crawford did a link the I
g and I'll be quick where he said basically the
negotiations broke down because of Al Hayman, Mr ubiquitously powerful
man in boxing. I love Al Hayman. I think what
he's dunkle boxes is amazing. He's made multimillionaires and obviously
even with Floyd, he's still making money in retirement. But
Terence Crawford is now a free agent. He's moving like
his own boss. Look, the equivalent in Terence corporate right
(35:19):
now is like Lamar Jackson. I'm talking to the executives.
I'm making my own deals, and I'm a fit on myself.
He said that nobody want to fight me. Everybody want
to fight him, will fight him. Vergil Ortiz will fight him.
Come on, man, that's cap. Stop saying these dudes. I
don't want to fight you. They're fight you. I'm not
saying no. Terence Crawford wants to fight everybody. He just
knows that he's gonna get played on the deal with
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Errol Spence and he wants to get the right amount
of bread. And I don't think that's wrong. I think
it's a travesty for boxing if the fight gets held up.
But what we're going there right now, to be honest
with you, Black, is it's a difference between pay per view,
which is Al Hayman's mentality, and Terence is like, whoever
got the biggest check I'm trying to take. Terence wants
to guarantee Al Hayman wasn't willing to give one. He said,
better on yourself at the pay per view numbers pay you.
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That's where we're at with this. I hope they don't
money Mayweather Manny Pachi out this, that's what they muck
it up. I hope they don't. This is Ret Butler
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Are you up on games? And let's break this up.
Let's backing up down on game all right, who's up?
Who's up first? Well? Uh? Lavari and t J and
Ply and you know what you guys all did great
last week? You guys all went too and one on
your picks. Uh, LaVar and t J. You went three
and two in your totals plaques. You went two and three, so, uh,
just barely. Plax isn't third on that one, but just barely.
(38:32):
All right, come on, let's go. Let's right. We got
Seahawks at Buccaneers tomorrow morning in Munich. Bucks favorite minus
two and a half over under. Here is forty five.
LaVar will start with you. I think they'll go over
forty five. The Bucks get two and a half on Seattle.
Is that what it is? Two and a half. Yeah,
I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna take uh, I'm gonna take
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Seattle on this one. I'm going to Seattle. Even though
Seattle was averaging over thirty points a game. I'm gonna
take to under. It's gonna be some good defense being
playing this game, but I'm taking the Seattle Seahawks and
I'm going under. I'm going over to points, and I'm
taking Genos. He's taking his talents all the way to Germany.
G M G Geno in Germany. So I'm going with
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the Seahawks. Alright. Come on, Broncos at Titans. Titans favorite
currently minus two and a half over under his thirty nine.
Ryan tan Hills officially questionable, but he was a full
participant on Friday. Uh t J will start with you.
I'm gonna take the Denver Broncos and I'm gonna take
the Under as well. The Titans are hurting on that
(39:35):
defensive front line, so I'm gonna take the Bronchos and Under.
Oh man, I gotta take. I gotta go with Tennessee
even though I want so. I just think that they
just came up with tough lost last weekend. It doesn't
matter if Ron tanis a quarterback. Derrick Henry is the
captain of that ship. So I'm going I'm going, oh
Under and Titans. I'm taking it over and the Titans
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Tell a friend. Uh some good conversation that took place
in the first hour. We talked about Jeff Saturday and
what he had going on. J J. James Jackson got
(02:20):
on the Jets doubters. Uh, seems like Plexico Stilla Hayter
nonbeliever of the Jets. Davante Adams. Uh, Well, we didn't
get to that, did we. But we didn't pay off
that one, but we did pay off the Russell Wilson,
Pete Carroll, uh and the Wrist Band. So we got
a lot to get to. In fact, let's start the
hour off with Davonte Adams being upset before we go
(02:43):
to our legendary moment with NASCAR Cup Series leader Joey Logano.
I gotta pay off the pay off the tease? Uh, Ryan,
What what did Davonte Adams had to say in terms
of the struggles with the Raiders. I mean, we talked about, uh,
what's taking place with Jeff Saturday. They are ironically or
coincidentally enough, going to play the Raiders this week. What
(03:07):
did Davonte have to say? Well? Per Adam Hill of
the Las Vegas Review Journal, Uh, Davante was talking about
if things don't change in Las Vegas. Quote, I've got
no business being in this building. If you think that
the only way I'm going to get the ball is
when I'm singled up, then I'm going to have four
catches on the year. I think that when you have
certain players, you do what you can to get them opportunities.
(03:28):
And that's why I'm here. That's why they paid me
to come here and make plays. Mm hmm uh. The
translation is y'all, y'all suck. Throw me the dawn ball
is translation, I don't damn if I'm in single coverage
with double code. Ye give me an opportunity to make
a play. That's exactly what he's saying. Told me to downball, Derek.
(03:51):
I don't huh, I don't understand it. We had this
conversation when when the great number seventeen what out of
the building in Green Bay, and I remember him saying
something to the extent of, I left green Bay to
pursue my best possible opportunity to win a championship. Now
(04:15):
Adams is my favorite whide receiving all the football. I'm
a little bit biased also because he wears number seventeen
and some of the you know, the movements and some
of the gracefulness that he moves with it reminds me
of myself. But that's neither here nor there. What I'm
saying is I listened. I heard what he said, but
he didn't mean it that way, because there's no way
(04:39):
you uproot yourself out of Green Bay. You go to
Las Vegas Raiders and play with Derek car and you're
saying that you're giving yourself the best opportunity and when
to the Super Bowl. I didn't believe that when he
made that remark, and now it's all kind of playing
out not exactly the way that I thought it would be.
Because I thought that the Raiders would be more competitive
this seas and with Hunter went thro Darren Waller and
(05:03):
DeVante Adams. Those three guys group together, I thought that
they would have one of the most explosive offenses in
all of football. But he's in a situation to where
when he makes that comment, where he doesn't need to
be in the building. Nothing changed here soon In Las Vegas,
Aaron Rodgers would throw him the ball in double coverage
and he would throw them open. Devanta Adams will make
(05:26):
spectacular plays that nobody on this earth would make, and
the uh, Derek Carr is not giving him that those opportunities.
But when you're talking about elite and good quarterback, and
there's a major difference, because Aaron Rodgers would put the
ball into places to where he could throw DeVante Adams
(05:48):
open and single coverage, in double coverage, Derek car doesn't
have that kind of ability. I mean, there's nothing that
I don't have anything against him, But when you put
the two guys on a scale. I mean, it's it's
glaring that who is the more elite quarterback making the
decision and throwing him to football and both teams are struggling,
(06:12):
Green Bay and the Raiders. But for Davante Adams, I
can say that he is a better player and a
better wide receiver than what the that the Las Vegas
Raiders are putting in front of him. He's saying, you
know what, just put it all on me. I can
handle it, and I love that as a player as
a wide receiver. But as far as where he's at
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right now with eight nine games into the season, I've
said to myself when I watched the Raiders play, if
Davonte Adams is in senior coverage, I don't give a
damn what routers on the table. You throw him to football,
and then there's a quarterback. You make decisions and going
into the game if you want to make that decision
to throw him the ball in a double coverage or
(06:57):
to throw him open, or whatever the case may be.
And I understand his frustration, but as far as him
saying that, I don't need to be in the building
and if anything changes in the near future, homeboy, you
ain't going nowhere. You locked in for a little bit
of time. So you and Derek Carr need to get
on the same page. Y'all need to get comfortable because
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you're gonna be paying together for the next you know,
four or five years of your career. And now you're
in the prime of your career. So I don't know
what they need to do to fix it, but seventeen,
you ain't going nowhere. You and Derek Carr need to
figure it out. T J. It's uh. I said it
when he left Green Bay. Green Bay was gonna fall
(07:41):
off a cliff. I said it. Aaron Rodgers was not
gonna perform well, I said it, And they don't know.
He's gonna elevate everyone. Davante Adams has had five really
good games this year, really good and so it's not
as if he's an playing well. The problem is his
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really good games are followed by one catch for three yards.
So he'll have ten catches for a hundred fifty and
then the next game one catch for three yards on
two targets. You're like, huh, how you have three catches
for a hundred and twenty five yards against the Kansas
City Chiefs, three catches what and so this is not
(08:29):
on Derek Carr. This is on Josh McDaniels. This is
on Josh McDaniels. Stop calling plays and called plays for players.
It's not about your plays, bro, It's about the players.
And when you think it's your plays, it's when you've
(08:51):
gone wrong. It's about the players. Hunter Renfro has been out.
I believe he's on I R now again, or he
he missed games because it's concussion, but now he's on
I R. Darren Waller has been out. Now he's on
I R. And so right now all they have is
Davante everybody knows that as well, and they need to
(09:13):
figure this out. But that's all we had in Green
Baby was But Aaron Rodgers is talented enough to where
and they played together for a long time. Yeah, you
play with car in college. It's been a long time
since you've played with him. You gotta rekindle that relationship,
so to speak. It's not just gonna happen overnight. But
(09:33):
Josh McDaniels needs to put Davontae Adams in situation to
where the ball is gonna come his way often. He
needs to get twelve to fifteen targets every single game.
I don't care how you do it. Get it done.
I don't care how you do it. Get it done. One.
You don't give up what you gave up, and you
(09:54):
don't pay them what you pay them not to do that.
And so this to me, if it was on Josh M. Daniels,
it's not on Derek Carry. And they may want to
pay Derek Carry is as de Vellain. And this is
a guy that said fault. Yeah he's a quarterback. But
everybody that's in that huddle knows when that play is called.
Who this balls designed to go to. We all know it. Oh,
(10:15):
you line up as coverage, I ain't getting the ball.
You're just from looking at the corverage on this ball
ain't coming to me. That shouldn't matter. I feel exactly
what you're saying because when I was in Prisburg, I
was in a position to where I was just an
X Y receiver and we would tag routes on the backside.
It will be plex, plex, plex, and and that men.
If I got to roll up corner the cover too,
no matter what route I have, if it changes outside
(10:38):
a quick game, I was running the dig because I
had half field coverage. And now now I go to
New York and we made the adjustment to I was
getting so much double team, which I had never been
in the slot before. Kevin Gilbert would put me in
the stop on third down and that opened so many
things up with him in the offense, because all you
(10:59):
could do from an in side slot perspective was brackting
me with a linebacker the safety. And now now I
have Smithy, I have Steve Smith, I have a Monty
tumb of Germany shocking guys on the outside who are
drawing single coverage. And now that puts everybody on the situation. Well, listen,
I gotta beat one man. And the offense started to grow.
(11:22):
So then going into the season, as a season progressed,
they will put me in third down on the slot,
and teams had to make a decision, and it just
opened our offense up to the point to where, you
know what, if they're gonna put him in the slot
on third down, We're gonna bracken him and put everybody
else in the man a man situation asked them to
beat us, and that was one of the main reasons
(11:44):
why our offense took the step that it did because
Kevin Gilbride recognized that, just like Devanti Adams was going through,
you put them on the edge one third down, they're
gonna take them away. But now when you put them
in the slot, you're forcingto the defense to make a
decision if they want to double le bracken them. And
now everybody else on the outside has an opportunity to
(12:05):
work man on man and y'all have now just been
put up on Game Jeez. I love the breakdown of it.
I love the analysis of it, and it makes total sense.
So Josh McDaniels, I hope he was taking a little
bit of time or somebody took a little bit of
time to hear this segment so that you could take
some of that extraordinary offensive prowess that you have going
(12:26):
on percolating in your head and make that adjustment. All right,
here we go, we're gonna take a quick break. On
the other side of the break, we're gonna get to
a legendary moment with current NASCAR Cup Series leader Joey Logano,
and we're gonna bring on Rep Butler from Pretty Left
Hook podcast on up on Game Network. Alright, Sugar Radio, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(12:47):
it is. Yeah, Hey, but Aaron nor Davante are on
sugar Hill right now. It's more like, well that's Hilltops
really doing real well at all. It's all day. We'll
be right back a second second. Right, you welcome back
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(15:05):
of that, we got Ret Butler of up on Game
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right now you mentioned different genres, different categories. Let's jump
into uh yeah, this week's legendary moment with Joey Logano
and NASCAR check it out on the game presents conversations
(15:28):
with a legend. It's a two times champion. This is
your legendary moment? What got you into Nascar? Like Hermie
Sadler is one of my close friends. He's a legend
in the game. He's been around for a while. The
Sadler family are are are people of my dear friends.
(15:52):
It's interesting to hear the stories of how people get involved.
While I used to ride my my big Will, and
my big Will felt good to me, and then it
turned into a goat card and then next thing you know,
it went from there or whatever. What was your journey
into NASCAR? Honestly similar to that. I had a I
(16:14):
loved cars, right, I was a kid that that loved
a lot Rods. I loved just you know, seeing cars
around um and then I gotta go cart for Christmas
one year that was that was it as a little
yard cart. And every day I got home it was
like plockwork. I got home, I jumped in my goat
cart and I'd go tear up the yard and neighbor's yards,
their mailboxes, whatever was in my way. I knocked it over.
(16:36):
I promised you that, and I loved it. Like my
parents realized that, hey, Joey's isn't a love feeling this.
I don't know. They didn't have any racing background. I
was the board in Connecticut, I you know, I was
living up there, and um, you know, they realized that
I had passed for it. And over time you start racing,
you know, different series, is a lot of different things
that kids can do for you know, start raising a
(16:57):
little leite type type racing stuff. Was cars got quarter
midgets and legends cars and different things than as you
get older than cars get bigger and more powerful and
all that stuff. Um, and eventually you hope to land
a job at a big race team, right and um,
for me, been at Team Pensky here for over ten years.
We've had Shell on the car for that long as
well as four two and and everything's just really clicking now, um,
(17:21):
mean and obvious, there was a lot of there's ups
and downs, just like any other U sport. And you
learn a lot in land light and one makes judgments
on that and that's just part of the sport and
part of this growing up in this type of world.
But um boy, it's cool to live out your dream, right.
This is it. When I was six years old and
Santa Claus brought that go card, this was it, Like
(17:43):
NASCAR Champion. That was the goal from that day on.
There was never a plan B. There's never a thought
of doing something else. Is that's what I want to
do and was able to just kind of focus in
and do that and to see it all, you know,
come to life over the years. And being able to
celebrate with your family after winning a championship, there's no
(18:04):
better moment than that. You know, it is like the
first you know, fifteen minutes or so after you win
a championship, if you'll see your team there, uh and
you see everybody hanging out that that really is part
of it. And then you see your family and that's
just wheneverything you just break down, right, that is just
everything comes together and it's the cool, very cool moments.
Super Doope, super Doope. If you want to hear the
(18:25):
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(19:31):
had to say about it. I'm interested to hear what
you guys think about it. He is that guy, but
I don't believe he's got the help. And we just
talked about how you need help and he's not getting it.
He's not getting yet philosophically, he's also not getting your talent.
But he's also that, you know, just the strategically, what
who are we? Who are the Chargers? And if you, Adam,
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if you had to say you who are the Chargers?
They're gut their team offensively, I mean offensively, they're I
don't know, they're a little bit more like the Hardinals,
like I always make fun of the Cliff Kings were
very uh Kyler Murray kind of winged offense like hey,
you know, well we're winging it. Who knows? And I
feel like the Charges are that way with less of
(20:11):
a plan, Like so I'm you can tell I'm I'm
not for the like I'm not for the Chargers, and
I don't think they're really doing a great job of
taking care of a generational talent. And I'm worried about that.
I'm worried that the people there that don't understand it,
that don't understand what needs to happen and how they're
being lapped by other teams who do. M H. Now
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that's them. With some harsh words from Steve Young and
and you know, obviously speaking of of Justin Herbert and
and the lack thereof of development or whatever it may be,
culture identity of of this. Uh. This Chargers saying now,
t J, you just put them in the playoffs and
said they were the wild card team coming out of
(20:55):
the a f C West doesn't sound like Steve Young
fields the same way Steve Young is basic when when
I look like Anthony Lynn was their head coach, they
were better with Anthony Lynn than they are now. And
they said Anthony Lynn can't do a good job of
developing Herbert. The offense wasn't uh progressing the way they've liked.
(21:17):
Let's see what they do now. Uh. This is an
indictment on Joe Lombardi, his ability to be creative, his
ability to bring the best out of Justin Herbert. This
this is all Joe Lombardi because we know Brandon Staley
is a defensive guy. When you're a defensive coach, you
(21:37):
spend the majority of your time on that side of
the ball. You're in those meetings, you run those meetings,
and you check in with that offensive staff just to
make sure. But this is on Joe Lombardi. But it's
gonna fall on Staley because he's the head football coach.
They need to get creative. They have way too much
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talent the Chargers do, at least on paper to play
their way they're playing in I don't understand where. Oh yes,
Justin Herbert is a generational talent, but at some point
in time when you're a generational talent and you're not
good of a player, sometimes you know, it's like, it
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don't matter what the coach do. I got it. It
don't matter what he called. I got it. I totally
disagree with Steve Young, I really do, because I believe
offensively that Justin Herbert has all the weapons that you
could possibly have. I mean, granted, uh, Keenan Allen has
been hurt throughout the season. He is Mike Williams is out.
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Author Ekela is statistically one of the top five backs
in all of football. And it all comes down to coaching.
And it's one thing about the the the Charges that
has resonated with them since the beginning of the time,
since Rodney Harrison and Junior of the late great Junior
and Say has passed on, is that the Charges off.
(23:06):
Next team, we're gonna throw the football, We're gonna mix
in some run obviously when they had a Daney and
that that was a whole different, uh, realm of players
and involved generation one of the best backs of all time.
But defensively, you could do anything that you wanted to
against the Charges because they just weren't a physical football team.
(23:28):
And that's just the nature of maybe, uh the Charges
have been over the last you know, twenty years as
I can remember it. If the Charges want to compete,
I believe that they will make the playoffs. Like you said,
Lombardi is gonna have to put Herbert in some better
situations as a quarterback. Are they failing him as far
(23:49):
as the growth is concerned, I don't think so. I
just think that the Charges have to play better defense,
and they recognize that when they bought Khalil mackin and
they already have Derban James. They just have to find
a way to play some defense they can score points.
So I don't know if if Steve Young is a
die hard Charges fan or not, But offensively, I think
when everybody is healthy, they have everything that they need
(24:13):
to take that step and to maybe not win the
a FC West, but to get into the playoffs. I
do believe that. So justin Herbert. He's on this way up.
He hasn't even become into his prim yet. He may not.
He may not even be a Charger in the next
four or five years of depending on what's gonna happen.
I'm not worried about him as a player. He's going
(24:35):
to continue to grow because he's that talented. But from
an offensive and defensive standpoint for the Charges, they just
gotta find a way to stop people. They got everything
that they need offensively to win football games. We got
up on game down on game coming up in a
matter of we'll say thirteen minutes or so. But right
now we're gonna get a trending topics from our man,
(24:59):
Isaac blow Akron, and we'll have Rhett Butler on the
other side of this. What we got we got Number
seven l s You having a tough time at Arkansas Fellas. Yeah,
they just went to half time. LSU has the lead,
but only six to three over Arkansas. Arkansas had five
sacks in the first half. Number two Ohio State of
twenty eight to seven over Indiana. The final minute of
(25:22):
the first half. Fifth rank Tennessee has just scored a
touchdown to go up twenty eight to fourteen over Missouri
three thirteen left to play in the second quarter. Number
twenty Notre Dame now leading it over Navy thirty five
to thirteen with one ten left to play in the
second quarter. Today, NFL Players Association President J. C. Trader
(25:42):
issued a statement calling for the immediate replacement and ban
of all silt film turf, which is a type of
synthetic turf that Trader says is associated with higher injury
rates than all other types of surfaces. Trader says silk
film turf is used in the home stadiums of the Saints, Vikings, Bengals, Colts, Lions, Giants,
(26:04):
and Jets. A number of NFL players tweeting their support
of Trader's statement already today, including Giants safety Landon Collins,
who tweeted, quote billions made off the game, and yet
we can't get safe playing surfaces to do our jobs.
Enough is enough unquote. Finally, in Major League Baseball, ESPN
(26:25):
reported today the world champion Houston Astros reliever Rafael Montero
has agreed to a three year, thirty four million dollar extension.
Fellas all yours, we appreciate that. Il A lot going
on in the world of sports, and we'll keep that going.
With UFC to eighty one, we got our man Rep
Butlers Uh, Pretty Left Hook podcast of knowledge is about
(26:50):
to be dropped on your head ready for the Big
States like an upper cut to the chip. Here's Red
Butler from Pretty Laptop. I ain't worried about just keep hate.
I ain't worried about keep hating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,
(27:12):
we got a man Rep Butler in a pretty left
book podcast on up on Game Presents Network. What's going
on with you? My guy m J. Plex fault was good,
baby Farms. Congrats on your college Football Hall of Fame
and joke well deserved, appreciate, Thank you, little job. Hey,
(27:32):
so we got some some some fireworks in the making
with this this UFC UM matchup in eight to eighty one.
Just give us, give us your take on it. What
should we be looking for? What? What's exciting? You know,
what's what's what's the word on it? Absolutely first and foremost,
(27:52):
this is Israel Otisania's time, the last style bender straight
out of Aukland, New Zealand by way of Nigeria. This
guy is a problem, you know what I'm saying. Connor
McGregor obviously really lit M M A on fire with
what he's done in the game and since his injuries,
and you know, he has a one in a few years.
As we all know, Israel Otison has been holding it
down for the UFC and this is a major moment
(28:12):
for him because this guy, Alex Pereira, has defeated him
twice in kickboxing. Many people don't know, Israel Otisan, you
had an extensive career as a kickboxer around the world.
He's had like almost a hundred kickboxing matches. Alex Pereira
has his number though. In kickboxing he's beat him twice.
Second time he knocked him out with a pretty left
(28:33):
hook which was apropo in the third round um under
a minute. So Pereira is walking to this feeling pretty confident,
especially because right now Israel is the golden boy to UFC.
He has the best energy, the best charisma, and they're
doing this in Madison Square Garden tonight main event. So
all lies on him. But I think for Israel, he
knows this is time to really show that he's gonna
(28:56):
dead all past transgressions. Hey, Red, let me tell you something.
I got invited to go to the UFC fight tonight
as Madison square guard, and I said, absolutely, I'll be there.
I had no idea who was fighting until you just
told me you got a good one. But I'll be
(29:16):
in a building front check me out, hey, Red I
I actually went back and watched uh the second fight
a couple of a couple of days ago. I to
sign you had him on the roads, bro he was.
He had Pereira pretty much out on his feet, and
then kickboxing they gave him a standing eight count. Got
(29:39):
you got the gloves on, they gave him a standing
eight count, which allowed Pereira to recover, and then the
next round he caught him with the left hook in
it and if you watch it, to sign you was
kind of pulling back a little bit trying to get
his right hand back, and it's perfectly time punched. With
that being said, when I watched the fight, that second
(30:01):
fight out of he dominated him. He dominated him. So
now you go to the UFC smaller gloves, bigger ring,
which was which is an octagon. I feel like outa
Sign is gonna win this fight rather easily because so
much has been made of these kickboxing victories. It's completely
different ballgame. You got smaller gloves, and I was listening
(30:23):
to the great Daniel Cormier say, pere comes down from two,
so he's a big man. Well, that play a part
in it, just him shrinking down and wait, he's big
power and out of sign. You may have some type
of ghosts, but I thought he was dominating that second fight. Yeah,
I think you're absolutely on point. I mean, first of all,
(30:43):
the weight has already played a part because if you know,
Alex Perreira almost didn't make weight yesterday. So this man
took the last last two minutes of um the way
in to make weight. He went in the first time,
didn't make it. They left commission normally gives you, like
up to two hours to how to take a dump,
do what you gotta do to lose that last found
and it took him to the last two minutes before
(31:06):
the fight would have not been a title fight. So
let's be clear, you were right on point with this information.
This man already might have drained himself, we do not know,
but if they had, he had to give stripped all
the way down to get into the black box to
make that wait. So that's first second. I absolutely agree.
The first fight out of Sania claims that he got
robbed by the judges. I would tend to agree. I
thought that fight um out of saying you looked just
(31:27):
as good as he did in the second fight. Obviously
in the second fight it was a well placed left hook,
But to your point, anybody could have won that fight
if that if that punch didn't happen, and it was
leading more towards Autosania at that point in terms of
the cards. So I think in this game number one,
let's be clear, Alex Perreira does not have the inn
cage experience that Ezra Outisania does and kickboxing is very
(31:47):
different to your point, So I believe Outisani is going
to dominate as well. I think he's in his bag
right now and I don't see no fight taking him off.
I want to I want to talk about this Anderson
Silver Jake paul I was there. I mean, Anderson the
Spider is one of the most legendary UFC fighters. He's
(32:09):
one of those guys where your respect factor for him,
your admiration factor for him, like he's he's like going
like that whole like Macheetah and you know, like the
O G s of O G s in in the
fight game. He gets into the ring with Jake Paul
in a boxing match. You say you were there, Just
(32:30):
give me. I mean, at some point we gotta stop
hating on Jake Paul as if he's like, uh, you know,
as if he's like a gimmick guy. Even though he
hasn't fired a real boxer. He's still the dude. Still
can fight, man, Yes he can. All right, bar, I
got a couple. I'm not God, bro, I'm so glad
you brought this south bar good good. Many things to
(32:51):
tell you. So. First of all, I was at the
fight shoutout to showtime holding boxing and MVP. The hired
me to run the back of house. I've known ed
over for years since his first fight in the UFC
when he destroyed Chris Leban in one round. Let me
tell you first and foremost, all of the conspiracy theorists
ain't no athlete on that level trying to throw no fights,
no games, no nothing. We'll stop playing these games, all right.
(33:13):
At the end of the day, Let's give Jake Paul
his just due. Anderson was given Jake Paul the business.
We all saw that, and if I was their ringside,
Jake Paul was missing a lot of shots. So my
biggest um concerned with that fight was the was the judges.
The scores were egregious. Let's be clear, there's no way
Jake Paul should have won by that margin. Now with
(33:35):
that being stated, yes I did knock him down, No
I Look, I look at that as a slip with
a perfectly time punch. That's what and the reason. A
lot of times knockdouts are perfectly tips. But look, hey,
but look the surface. Look, I'm not gonna make no
uses for that man. He got up quick, That's what
I'm gonna saying. He got up, he got up on
(33:56):
his knee, and he was up. But at the end
of the day, I'm not hating on Jake Paul. Look
as a person that is a purist in boxing, I
literally was convinced after working with Jake Paul all week
this kid is legit. I love the way his team,
although extremely deep, they love this guy. He needs that energy.
He deserves the energy. He's working hard, he looks great,
(34:16):
and he's generating money. Like I'm not. I'm not mad
at this new generation of YouTube boxers that they take
it serious. If you're gonna do a side show on
a gimmick, miss me. But if you're gonna put into
work in the time, let Jake Paul. I'm not mad
at you because he did his thing in the face
Anderson Silva and only what six seven fights yo? That
for anybody else, that's a suicide mission. So you gotta
(34:38):
get that man. Respect man, you can find Ratt. We
gotta get out of here. I I apologize, but if
you want to hit him with a quicker one, go
go ahead. Plex God heyd We just keep every time
we have young man, we keep going back to the
same topicord where we say that with that Errol Spence
(34:58):
in terms Crawford terms, Crawford did a link the I
g and I'll be quick where he said basically the
negotiations broke down because of Al Hayman, Mr ubiquitously powerful
man in boxing. I love Al Hayman. I think what
he's dunkle boxes is amazing. He's made multimillionaires and obviously
even with Floyd, he's still making money in retirement. But
Terence Crawford is now a free agent. He's moving like
his own boss. Look, the equivalent in Terence corporate right
(35:19):
now is like Lamar Jackson. I'm talking to the executives.
I'm making my own deals, and I'm a fit on myself.
He said that nobody want to fight me. Everybody want
to fight him, will fight him. Vergil Ortiz will fight him.
Come on, man, that's cap. Stop saying these dudes. I
don't want to fight you. They're fight you. I'm not
saying no. Terence Crawford wants to fight everybody. He just
knows that he's gonna get played on the deal with
(35:40):
Errol Spence and he wants to get the right amount
of bread. And I don't think that's wrong. I think
it's a travesty for boxing if the fight gets held up.
But what we're going there right now, to be honest
with you, Black, is it's a difference between pay per view,
which is Al Hayman's mentality, and Terence is like, whoever
got the biggest check I'm trying to take. Terence wants
to guarantee Al Hayman wasn't willing to give one. He said,
better on yourself at the pay per view numbers pay you.
(36:01):
That's where we're at with this. I hope they don't
money Mayweather Manny Pachi out this, that's what they muck
it up. I hope they don't. This is Ret Butler
from Pretty Left Hook podcast on the up on Game
Network to get all his materials, all his content on
up on Game Presents podcast feed. Dude is a beast,
I mean, one of the best in the game to
ever do it and still doing it. We appreciate you
(36:23):
coming on. You can find him at Rhett Butler. That's
Reet with two t s, Ret Butler on Twitter, So alright,
make sure you check him out. We're gonna get a
quick break on the other side of this break up
on Game Down on Game. Y'all know I dominate up
on Game Down on Games, So get yourselves ready, strap in,
and we're gonna finish out the show with me smashing
Plex and t J on on our picks for this week.
(36:45):
All right, we'll be right back. I don't know, yeah
for real. All right, welcome back into Up on Game.
We're lying from the tire rack dot com studio. If
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am I messing up here? Give it to me Hush,
It's it's Hush had four wrong. I don't want to
(37:26):
give out the wrong one. What who are you on? On?
I g uh? On Instagram? I don't even know, bro?
You know you know I'm shoot all this man? T
J who shady foe? Okay, there you go, t J
who shady for? That's what got me mixed up? All right?
At at plexico burst on Twitter? Where are you on? Uh?
(37:47):
Your pb burds on on I g right, just spell
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we got a little bit of time. Let's get to
these up on games down on Game nine for some picks.
(38:09):
Are you up on games? And let's break this up.
Let's backing up down on game all right, who's up?
Who's up first? Well? Uh? Lavari and t J and
Ply and you know what you guys all did great
last week? You guys all went too and one on
your picks. Uh, LaVar and t J. You went three
and two in your totals plaques. You went two and three, so, uh,
just barely. Plax isn't third on that one, but just barely.
(38:32):
All right, come on, let's go. Let's right. We got
Seahawks at Buccaneers tomorrow morning in Munich. Bucks favorite minus
two and a half over under. Here is forty five.
LaVar will start with you. I think they'll go over
forty five. The Bucks get two and a half on Seattle.
Is that what it is? Two and a half. Yeah,
I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna take uh, I'm gonna take
(38:54):
Seattle on this one. I'm going to Seattle. Even though
Seattle was averaging over thirty points a game. I'm gonna
take to under. It's gonna be some good defense being
playing this game, but I'm taking the Seattle Seahawks and
I'm going under. I'm going over to points, and I'm
taking Genos. He's taking his talents all the way to Germany.
G M G Geno in Germany. So I'm going with
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the Seahawks. Alright. Come on, Broncos at Titans. Titans favorite
currently minus two and a half over under his thirty nine.
Ryan tan Hills officially questionable, but he was a full
participant on Friday. Uh t J will start with you.
I'm gonna take the Denver Broncos and I'm gonna take
the Under as well. The Titans are hurting on that
(39:35):
defensive front line, so I'm gonna take the Bronchos and Under.
Oh man, I gotta take. I gotta go with Tennessee
even though I want so. I just think that they
just came up with tough lost last weekend. It doesn't
matter if Ron tanis a quarterback. Derrick Henry is the
captain of that ship. So I'm going I'm going, oh
Under and Titans. I'm taking it over and the Titans
(39:57):
I'm taking over on the point. So appreciate everybody that
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