February 7, 2023 • 36 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's Official Fantasy Football Podcast! Dan Beyer, live from Radio Row in Phoenix, and Mike Harmon take a deep dive into the impact of Tom Brady's retirement. Mike may have changed Dan's mind on the value of the new Pro Bowl Games. The guys give their analysis and picks ahead of Super Bowl 57. Plus, the guys complete their Fantasy Year in Review with their biggest takeaways from the fantasy season in the Western divisions of the AFC and NFC!
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will join us a little bit later on in the
podcast as we wrap up our NFL team review when
it comes to fantasy football, looking at the NFC West
and the a f C U S. But Mike, it's
Super Bowl Week, the Pro Bowl in the rear view mirror.
There's a lot simmering in the NFL when it comes
to quarterbacks. We're talking a lot more than just Chiefs
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Eagels at this point of the year. It's that fun
part of the year, right all the silly season. Tom
Brady retires, I go see a d for Brady. It
was master thespian performance by Brady. Uh and the core cast.
I mean you see it, said, and I went and
saw it Sunday night. Uh. Theater was maybe a third full.
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It ended up being number two at the box office
for the weekend. They did a good job selling discounted
tickets and trying to appeal to an older too. Arthritic
thumbs up is what you give it. Yeah, I mean
I do already have one arthritic thumb, but yeah, I'd
say it worked right. A bunch of sneaky, funny little
one liners. Yeah, there's a lot of cheese and contrivances
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and and whatever else. But if you don't enjoy Lily
Tomlin and Jane Fonda, Sally Field and Rita Marino getting
after it and I you're you're, the premise is not
gonna get you in. All right. You're gonna get a
little bit of Tom Brady, a couple of little nods
and winks to uh, you know, the histories, and and
making fun of the Atlanta Falcons. Uh. And Rob Cordrey
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as a podcaster might have might have stolen the show him.
Guy Fiertti Uh and Marshawn Lynch shows up. So a
little Seattle Seahawks love for you? Did I did I
tell you my eighty for Brady story? Have I told
that this on this podcast? How I had the scoop
on e d for Brady and completely sad on it? Yes? First,
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do you know the story? It sounds vaguely familiar. I
don't think you've told it on here though. Okay, so
last year Tom Brady retires. It was on a Saturday,
and you know, obviously Brady retired, and we'll talk about
you know that and how it plays into everything. But
last year when Brady retired, I went to the golf
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club to go hit some golf balls at the driving range,
you know, on a Saturday. Why not why not try
to get some of the kinks out. And I was
there and I was able to break the news to
the people at the at the club, at the range
and I said, yeah, Tom Brady retired. I actually told
one of the guys at the club, and then somebody
overheard me. They're like, what Brady retired? And so it
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kind of started to spread throughout the range. In two
hitting bays down there was a guy who goes, yeah,
we're working on a movie. It's it's it's it's with
these old ladies, like these four old ladies that love
Tom Brady and it's called A D for Brady. And
I thought to myself, boy, is this movie sounds like
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it's gonna suck, you know? But I didn't say that's
say that but he told me about it. And then
do you remember like a month or two later, like
last spring, when this came out, like this was breaking
news and I had known about it for two months,
but I didn't think it was a big deal that
they were actually making a movie. And he's like, yeah,
we're shooting some of the scenes down at so far.
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So I had the scoop on A D for Brady
and I just completely sad on it, and yeah, could
the world. But and I'll let you you give it
two thumbs up, though you give I'd say it was
it's an hour and thirty eight minutes. It's not a
huge investment of your time. Uh, And I thought, I
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thought it was a cute movie. And at the end
of it, right, is it is it award worthy and
all that? No? Uh, schlocky no, But you know, you
get the usual friendship themes, mortality themes both for him
as a player and uh, you know them dealing being
over eighty right, relationships and all of that fun stuff.
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And Brady actually does have one scenes where it's like,
all right, they taught him to act a little bit.
This is pretty good. It wasn't bad. I'm like, all right,
One or two lines were a bit you know, extra
cheese kurds, but otherwise I thought it was pretty solid.
I give it a good look. First, you're a movie guy,
do you have any interest in seeing eighty for Brady? Um?
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Probably not in theaters, but maybe on streaming later on.
It might be something I might actually check out at something. Well.
I heard that that's where it will get some love.
I heard some theaters had earlier showtimes to cater to
the older audience. I'm not kidding, you know, you're you're right.
They discounted like the move like a MC today on
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Monday announced that they were going to start charging different
pricing based on seating, Like if like you were at
a concert or something, all right, here's the prime seeds
for the audio and whatever else. But for this they
actually discounted in a lot of cases extended you know,
like if you go to a mattenee a lot of
times what is it burst or something like that off
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tickets that that they did the deep dive deeper into
the day as well, uh, to try to get people in.
What do you think about Brady's retirement? What was your
initial I was kind of bummed. I mean again, I
mentioned the mortality thing with with him, and look, I've
had a couple with scares. We don't need to go
into home, my home medical world. But it just like,
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as so long as he was still playing Dan, I
didn't feel so old. Now it's another link to that
that group. I was like, all right, all those guys
are now wiped off in terms of their playing careers.
And there were a lot of times this year where
I'm like, all right, he's still a top ten guys
with some of the throws. And as the year went on, timing,
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it's like, how much do you go to the line,
how do you go to the lack of run game,
how much of all of that? And then you know,
you embrace brace yourself through the cold, hard facts with
some of those throws not made against Dallas, right if
he if he doesn't throw the interception in the end, zone.
Is it a different game and Rigo maybe a different
feel to the end of the season or was he
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just done right? I mean, that's that's the part I
the billion dollar question. I know he talked to Colin
coward Um on Monday morning and talking about when you're
done and all that stuff, but like for me, it's
the Catharsis of letting all that go. And I found
myself kind of doing that same thing, like damn man. Yeah,
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the you know, the funny thing that you mentioned about
the throw and the interception is it's not that specific play, Mike,
But I just wondered if there were points throughout the
season where Brady knew Maybe we didn't know, but Brady knew.
I can't make this throw anymore. I can't like that
throw is no longer in my repertoire. If I'm if
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I'm going to have to make that throw, I'm gonna
have to do something that I haven't done before, or
just you maybe know that you're slipping, you know. Maybe
that's the thing. I don't know if it caught Peyton
Manning off guard, but I don't think that Tom Brady
wanted to go out the way that Peyton Manning ended
up going out. Yeah, I you don't want to find
that Steve steep cliff right, So many athletes do. And look,
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I'm I'm always a guy as much as a player
or coach can decide when it's their time. Outside of
jim beehe I'm complaining about everything and shaking his fists
like a grumpy old man anymore. Um is that you
know it's I'd love for everybody to be able to
go out on their own terms. And I wondered for
Brady and again, owing a little to my own personal
life and some choices decisions history that I don't need
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to go in here. Eventually I'll end up on a
couch talking through it all. Is that maybe a year later,
some of the decisions he made to come back he
regrets and and maybe there there's some of that weight
that finally is like between that and a decrease in
the accuracy and ability on the field, that that that
compounds into a all right, it's time, it's time to
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let it go. I think that number forty five, that
age he had brought it up. I always felt that
that was the mark that he wanted to reach, That
was the one that he was going to go for
and so then he did it and then maybe he
felt he was slipping. Maybe he didn't feel he was slipping,
but it was it was just to get the forty five.
It was always his goal. And when I think of
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forty five, we've heard Russell Wilson and before the before
the season against before him joining the Broncos, when he
was with the Seahawks, and they're talking about Brady's legacy
and his longevity, and Russell Wilson's like, yeah, you know,
like I want to play till I'm forty five. And
now we look at it and I'm like, well, somebody
has to want you until you're forty five, because I
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don't know if they want you right now, Russell Wilson.
So so it puts it even more perspective about Brady
and how long he ended up playing. And to play
into your mid forties is just absolutely crazy because guys
were talking, oh, I'd love to do that and blah
blah blah. But to actually be viable and to be
relevant and heck, you get an m v P vote,
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you know, you know, just a couple of years ago.
So that's even more of a testament at the time right.
I think as we move on, we'll even be more
enamored with what he did later in his career, but
not completely shocked. They still thought that there was maybe
one year in him, especially honestly because he was now,
you know, post divorce. I thought maybe he needs something
to fill his life and you know, his time with
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and that maybe football would be it. But uh so
I was a bit caught off guard by it. But
I think in a few years we are going to
be really amazed at what Tom Brady did. Yeah, that's
where That's where Unfortunately, all the all the roads with
Tom Brady, we can commiserate on some of those decisions, uh,
and discussion points, Dan, but uh, you know, at some
point I got I'm asking you. I've got a chance
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to go to an event in March through some n
f T thing I bought into kind of cool, a
lot of programs and interviews or whatever, and it's it's
in Tampa. I will be there earlier in that week.
It would require me to stay several days later. Should
I go on the off chance that I get to
harass Brady at this thing? Yeah? Absolutely? Why not? There
you go? Yeah, decision made a live on a podcast.
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It is Super Bowl week and the Pro Bowl did
take place in Las Vegas on Sunday. Just a quick
hit on that, Mike, I, I, I don't know what
the hell they were doing in Las Vegas. I don't
know what the blief that was. I'm I'm looking on
a TV and I understand that people can't catch on
the tennis scoring easy. Uh. I understand tennis scoring. We're
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sports fans. I had no idea how they were scoring
the Pro Bowl. It's six six and they're saying the
game is twelve twelve. They're playing a first half and
they're playing a second half and it's like a best
of three. I didn't I didn't understand the scoring fifty
yard field it was. I'm sorry, I hate it. I
couldn't stand it. And then what made me even more
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bad is the day after I go and I look
and I see I see this headline on on UH.
It was on ESPN, and it says Pro Bowl hits
with players flag foot. This is the exact this is
the exact headline flag football a hit with players at
new Pro Bowl. That that was the title. That was
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the title headline right under it. From Josh Jacob saying
this sucks. That's exactly at this point. Bleep is stupid,
this is this is what Gino Smith said. I didn't
know what to expect, but I think it turned out
pretty well. It got very competitive at the end, and
I think that's what they wanted. Is that a rain review? Um?
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Christian McCaffrey said, I definitely don't need to take more hits,
so I'm a proponent of it. Well, that's a ringing endorsement. Um,
you know it's a hit man. It's not negative speech.
It's like, I, you know what, my body's not gonna
hurt as much finishing. I'll let your Tyreek hill because
he got cleaned down. That you know, that would be
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like hit record, hit record by Guns and Roses. Uh,
some of the songs were good, you know like that
that would be like my review. Mike Harmon says some
of the songs were good, and Dan Buyer said, well
track three was cool like that. That's what That's what
it would be. That that's the type of review that
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you got from these players. Like these comments don't mean
it was a hit. These it's mean that they just
didn't want to get hit. That's all that it meant, well,
that was really well done because it was in Monday.
Is Axl Rose? Sixty's a good job by you? You
know how I knew that. You know how I knew
that stat because Cavino and Rich were recording their podcast
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this morning and you're gonna be in Vegas later this
week broadcasting at Jason Smith on Fox Sports Radio. I'm
in Phoenix right now for Super Bowl Week, and they
were recording their podcast in one of the rooms either
above me or below me, and so I heard Cavino,
I'll be like Axel Rose today. I'm at the top
of this recording February six, Axl Rose, the six D one.
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That's how I knew because I could hear them next
door recording their podcast. My goodness, I'm sorry the show, no,
I just the So we we look at the the
Pro Bowl from h in theory, right. I do this
with Smith a lot. It's like, I like what you're
saying in theory, and then I go on to a
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this rate, what is our hum it is? In this case,
I'm looking at it from the bigger picture, like the
players and how much they love or hate it whatever,
get over it. It's kind of like loving you're hating
a seventeenth game and eventually got signed on to it.
Get over it. Uh. Same thing here is that you
know it's a bigger business picture, and you know, me
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being the nerd that I am about it, with more
people not wanting their kids, at least initially playing tackle football.
I started at age eight, and I've got the knees
to show for it. Uh. And and my longevity in
doing any of that was shut down. But the the
idea that you're not doing that, but you're playing flag football,
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because I'm seeing it all over where I am. I'm
sure if you go out to the park with your son,
you you see the the the people lined up. There's
a lot of soccer, but you're seeing teams practicing flag
football all over and California. Uh last week, you know,
a week before we get into the Pro Bowl and
Super Bowl, UH commissioned it that they're looking at it
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as a high school sport for girls coming forward. So uh,
the growth in that side of things. Yeah, you're trying
to monetize it, so you may not be ready to play,
uh even as you finished college. Right, you may create
another viable league for guys that all right, You're not
to tackle on the side of the NFL, but you're
a damn good flag football player. And for guys that
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are running around college campuses and whatever else, maybe there's
a whole other industry that pops up. And let's face it,
if you can make a television show out of it, uh,
live sports programming where you can bet always wins. Yeah,
you know it's it's actually a really good point by you,
a really good point because I think I'm being maybe
selfish and saying all of that. And I heard the
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c I F stuff, and I, you know, I thought
it was great. My niece actually tried out for the
football team and in her hometown like a year ago.
She loved football y and and and I'm not I'm
not saying this jokingly, like I this is like a
true story. And she she lasted one practice. She understood, now, okay,
this is what tackle football means. And she was done,
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like she's like, all right, this is not for me.
And I was super proud of her for doing that,
because to even have the guts to be like, you
know what, I yes, absolutely, and you know what. I
hated football, you know, we like we talked about it.
I could not stand football practice. I hated every second
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of it. And and that's why I've always said, like
with that sport, it is something really that you have
to love and and you know, and I look at
at a sport that I do love in golf. And
you know, golf's taken a great boom since COVID, but
prior to that, they were trying to find ways anyway
to get people out on the golf course. They're having
foot golf. We obviously know about disc golf. They're making
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holes bigger. You know, they're saying, you know, go out
and just play nine holes, go out and play five,
you know plays. They were trying to do any thing
to get someone to play the sport, to get anybody
to play the sport. So I guess when I sit
there and criticize the Pro Bowl, you have a much
better perspective and a much more correct perspective than than
I did, because I just pissed and moaned honestly about
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the game, and I got to realize that it's not
about me. So your your observations were very astute, and
I think of have changed my look out everything. Now. Look,
you're you're entitled. I mean, I'm not saying aesthetically, it
was what I wanted to sit and watch Peyton. Peyton
crying like a like a baby at the end like
he would have been doing as a player, was great.
And Eli loading was great. Hey, can't take a knee,
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that's a legal that's against the rules. You know, all
of that kind of stuff was fun. Like I I
just think back to like thinking about your your niece
is the for me, I had the the double wammy. Physically,
I was already getting beat up um unfortunately. But the
other part was I just hated my coaches, Like I
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just had bad experience after bad experience. So I'm like,
am I gonna subject myself to more of this? Like
my my daughter had a bad experience with her first
soccer coach, and I tried to encourage her because I
knew she was going to move away from from this
individual pretty fast. Life all my life's a circle in
a lot of ways, and with some of this, but
when with this, like she gave it another shot, found
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a coach that was more. Uh. I mean, she's eight
years old. Like, you can't come out of a season
hating You shouldn't hating a sport when you're eight years old,
and so she gave it another another chance, and now she's,
you know, defending national champion and doing all this other
crazy ass stuff. And it was almost rude because the
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guy was such a jerk. So I'm glad she at
least gave it a chance because I didn't. I stopped
and said, I'm not putting up with this my It
was one time where I did step in from my
mental and physical health to say I'm not subjecting myself
to the next rounded jerks. I I just I football
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is a tough sport to love. So I have so
much respect for anybody that plays D three, you know,
D two, because you you really have to love the
sport to be able to do that, and to to
play and go and play, you know, a school with
no scholarship, and to be able to go through the
practices and the work and the level and the hits,
and and a sport where they say the injury rate
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is so to be able to have that sort of uh,
you know, love for the game. Tip of the cap.
But you know your your version on the Pro Bowl
is right. I've got to realize everything is not about
me and follow Now we just have to figure out
how we could profit off it, buddy. That's all man.
So the Pro Bowl is done, it is, it is
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Super Bowl weak, and after the Super Bowl Mike Bursh
and I will end up doing a Super Bowl recap
and also give you our draft, our first draft of
the fantasy football season. That will come in our next episode,
in our final episode of the I Want Your Flex Podcast.
But before we we do that and look ahead the
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next week's episode, before we do our divisions. To wrap
this episode up, what do you think about Chiefs Eagles?
How do you think it plays out on Sunday? Well,
my homes will be healthy, hurts should be healthy. Er
can can the Chiefs d D line make some hay?
Because that's where I'm having a lot of fun. Like,
I love the skill position player. Let's talk about Kelsey crap.
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It's all about the offensive and defensive lines here. Who's
able to hold up? Because you've got the two best
sacked teams in the National Football League Number one Seeds,
all of these things. Eagles dealing with a bunch of
injuries on the old line. I mean, how many headlines
do you have? You have Lane Johnson, I think I'm
gonna be able to go. I think I'm good. I
think I get through one. More like, how much is
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that as ropa dote versus this guy is as we
were just talking about, injured to the point where, all right,
I'm dragging myself to the finish line, because if that's
the case, then you might make some hay and get
after Hurts early and often. The run game for Philly
obviously huge. I pick Kansas City before the year. It's
awful tough to to go away from them here, but
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a little concerned about the secondary UH for Kansas City,
but enough up front that I think that makes a difference.
Gimmy casey um, let's go thirty four, Okay, all right,
I'm going Philly. I just think that they're gonna be
able to run and continue to run and run, whether
it be Boston Scott, whether it be Kenneth Gainwell or
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Miles Sanders are obviously Jalen Hurts. You mentioned, you know,
the secondary and Lagarius needs status at the time of
the taping UH still up in the air just because
of the concussion that he suffered in the UH in
the a f C Championship game. I just think the
Eagles are just better up front on both sides to
to your point, and I don't fault you at all
for sticking with your pick, because my picks lasted the
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total of one game in the playoffs had the Packers
and Chargers. Packers didn't make it, Chargers blew their lead
against the Jaguar. So I actually have the the car
blanche to move off of a pick or pick a
different team. I'm going Eagles. I'm gonna go. I kind
of want Mike. I kind of wanted to pick a
funky score of a two point conversion here or there. Um,
So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go thirty three. And
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I think that with the two point, does someone get
the octopus? That's one of the prop bets. It's plus
six the octopus. But you score the touchdown and then
you score the two point conversions. Oh wow, I'm like
thinking NHL throwing, you know, throwing it onto the ice
and what Detroit? So yeah, exactly, let me throw one
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more at you, scoring drive of less time than the
national anthem takes from Chris Stapleton. Oh yeah, I would.
I would hit that for sure, I think so right? Yes,
is minus one eight nos plus yep, fifty eight seconds
left in the half, someone you can go down and
score something quick and then Bucker you go shoo portone
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with him and make a make the field goal. Ryan Burser,
our executive producer, do you have a Super Bowl pick
for Super Bowl fifty seven? I am picking the Eagles
as well. Um, I think that they They're just an
incredibly strong, well rounded team. Obviously. I think what's interesting
with both teams is I think both teams kind of
make a case for being the underdogs. So they're both
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going to come in with that mentality, which is really
bizarre when they're both fantastic teams. So but I I
will go with the Eagles. I will say, how about
let's get weird? Can the mayor of Cincinnati says something
to piss off the Chiefs? Again? The question, I gotta
find the pictures. Once upon a time, I had the
Eagles kind of as the adopted non Bears team. So
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I used to run around in a Jeworski shirt from Sears,
and I had one of those Eagles bikes, Eagles bikes
out of this Sears catalog that the logo and everything
front and center and then the uh the frame was
the color of your whatever team you want. Oh man,
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I can't believe you are going against your Eagles bike
Mike and Super Bowl fifty seven. Really, I'm out on saws. No,
I'm just kidding. I just said the old BMX Huffy
that was by the way, in Saints colors. It was
black and gold. Yeah. One one of my one of
my highlights of childhood was driving on that. That will
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be a mix bike. Alright, So Harmon's got the Chiefs,
Burch and I taking the Eagles and some funky scores.
There is your Super Bowl fifty seven preview and predictions. Alright,
as we hit the home stretch here on I want
your flex. Get Mike on Twitter at Swallen. Home from
Ryan Burschinger on Twitter at Ryan Burschinger and you can
find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox. Let's
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finish our division review of fantasy football. We take each
NFL team and we picked something about that team and
what happened fantasy wise throughout the season. Sometimes we double up,
so those we triple up. Sometimes we all have unique ideas.
We haven't done the Western divisions in the a f
C or NFC. Let's start with the a f C Western.
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Let's start with these Kansas City Chiefs. Mike Harmon, what's
your biggest fantasy takeaway from the Chiefs this past season. Well,
I mean it's just the overarching thing of Hey, Tyreek
Hill doesn't make a team. Uh. You had eight players
with at least two hundred fifty receiving yards, which meant
you had a lot of guesswork beyond Travis Kelsey in
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terms of setting your fantasy lineup. First, Um, yeah, I
mean you have both Mahomes and Kelsey finishing and number
one at their position. I'll focus in on Travis Kelsey
because he just absolutely dominated all tight ends, of course,
finishing with hundred yards. Uh. The next closest tight end
had eight, that's t J Hawkinson. Uh. With touchdowns, he
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had twelve. The only tight end to reach a double
digit touchdowns. I think Tasso No George George Kittle had nine.
Thankfully it's not Taston Hill that second. Um and uh yeah.
So the the complete and utter dominance that Travis Kelsey
provided at the tight end position, I'm sure won a
lot of people titles. Well, I I was going to
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triple up and I'm going to triple up on Travis
Kelsey For the point of this. I thought he was
gonna stink, not not stink. I thought that there was
going to be a drop off. I thought that you
saw signs last year in his usage that the Chiefs
were limiting a little bit because the snaps were down,
and I actually thought that was going to continue. And
I thought you were going to get a much bigger
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boost from Juju Smith Schuster, from Marquees Valve Scantling. I mean,
Kadarius Tony wasn't there at the beginning of the year,
so I can't say that, but I thought that that
was going to be an opportunity. And guys, for me,
it always goes back to Clyde Edwards Hilaire as well,
because I thought he was going to pick up some slack. Now,
Isaiah Pacheco and Jerk McKinnon, um, you know, did some
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of that, but I just completely I was I was
ready to sell on Kelsey and there couldn't have been
a worse decision. And you're benching Joe Mixon in one
point game, all right, Yeah, Denver broncos Um, I mean
Bell unlock step like I guess the only let me
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let me just say this just for time. The Javante
Williams injury and how that running like that backfield like
just all of a sudden completely dissolved because you have
this fifty fifty split and then all of a sudden,
Latavious Murray is your like key back at the end
of the year like that he had I think all
of the Russell Wilson It was hid by the Russell
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Wilson junk that we just talked about in the week up.
But it's funny coming into the season, right when we
were talking about him, like they're gonna resign Melvin Gordon?
What they do? They resigned Melvin Gordon and then he
couldn't hold on to the football, Like what the hell happened? Man?
And so uh and then Williams gets hurt and it
all goes asunder and really quickly. I drafted Albert oh
(27:56):
in a couple of weeks. That zero you in fantasy
that that was. That was a rough one, Thank you,
Albert oh Man. I did play some dulcitch later on
a li will say that what about the charge of
a sleeper that never woke up any what about the
Chargers first want to start with with the alighting bolts. Yeah,
(28:17):
I don't think It's talked about enough that Justin Herbert
was actually a pretty big disappointment and fantasy this season. Uh.
He was drafted as QB three, which is crazy because
he finished his QB twelve. Uh. If you ended up,
you know, just sitting and taking Geno Smith off of
free agency way later, who we'll talk about at some point. Uh,
you ended up with a much better position. So unfortunately,
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and I think a part of that, of course, is
the injuries that happened at wide receiver for the Chargers.
Harmon Chargers stake. H Well, I look at the Chargers,
you just have the number of injuries. Mike Williams uh
still dominant, even though the yards per catch were down. Uh,
he just can't stay on the damn field. So the
story the song remains the same. Just steal from led Zeppelin. No,
(29:01):
I am with you with that. I think Austin ekeler
Um for uh, for the value if you are if
you are drafting Austin ekeler Um, where you did, um, great,
you know it worked out, But I am not almost
looking ahead to next year if they actually have a
competent running game. Kellen Moore coming in there on what
(29:24):
the value of Austin Ekeler could be I think there
could be even be brighter days ahead. Um, because they
weren't great running the football, but Eckler still was able
to put up points because it was a cool threat capability. Well,
you get Slater back, you know, make some changes there.
There's a lot of potential flux in the receiving corps
Keenan Allen and Gerald Everett and others that may be
(29:44):
on their way out. I mean, it would be remiss
to not mention Josh Pulver though d Ad himself a
nice year. Seventy two catches, seven sixty nine and three
h guy would have been undrafted in virtually every league
and put up some good numbers. Also a dream fantasy
player for people this season. Finishing as RB one and
being RB one in Week seventeen fantastic. Yeah. For as
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bad as they were, he was, he was worth it.
I mean, you know, like like statistic wise, you know,
we talked about their run game, but fantasy wise, I mean,
Ekeler was it and things could be getting better, which
is crazy. So let's go to the Raiders. Anybody want
to start, I'll start with the Raiders. The fall off
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of Darren Waller um injury wise. Obviously Davante Adams coming
in um has an effect of that. But there it
was just a few short years ago that I thought
Darren Waller could be te one in the entire National
Football League, and then that is that has fallen off.
You want to go where Josh Jacobs? You know, he
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was drafted his running back twenty two and finished his
RB three. Phenomenal season for Josh Jacobs. He saw a
chance to get that bag and he got it. Guy
really done? Uh? And then Adams still finishing top three
despite the inefficiency, inefficiency, ineffectiveness of Derek Carr and the
demotion and the fact that Waller and renfrom missed so
(31:12):
much time. I mean, Jacob's obviously the beneficiary of Adams
being out there. Whatever new contract he signs, he should
send up a gift gift basket. All right, that's the
a f C West, NFC West. Let's start with the
San Francisco forty Niners. Mike Harmon Europe. I'll take the
mid season acquisition that crushed everybody else. Just Christian McCaffrey
(31:35):
stayed healthy. Lad you down the way and if you
had drafted wishing, wanting hoping that he would find a
better team in situation he did, uh and maybe carried
you to a title on the On the connection of that,
you know, Debot took a hit. Um. You know, he
was so good last year. He really was. But I
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felt that McCaffrey coming in would end up having a
trickle down effect with others. And I felt that it
did happen with the likes of of Deebo Samuel, So
Diebo Samuel was not the same as he was Um
a year ago. He's still great, He's still really good,
but just not the same effect. And I think McCaffrey
took away some of that and George Kittle still being
a very valuable asset at tight end. As I said,
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nine touchdowns and unfortunately I have to correct myself, Taysom
Hill did have nine touchdowns overall. So thanks damn it,
burs It's all good. Yeah, the the week that I
don't play him is when he lights up the Seahawks.
So that was still still bitter in my heart. What
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about what about the Seattle Seahawks, My Seattle Seahawks, Bursch.
I'll let you have the have the floor on this. Sure,
well it is it is Geno Smith's coming out party
right finishing his quarterback six. Just an incredible season for
Gino really really awesome. Uh over four thousand yards. It's
a twenty nine touchdowns, I mean, just a great season
(32:59):
for Gino Smith, lifting up an offense that people were
very low on coming into the season. I'll take Tyler
Lockett finishing on the edge of the the back end
of w R one the I'll take Kenneth Walker. But
Ken Walker did trail off at the end of the year,
and it's kind of funny because he hit a rookie wall,
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but he wasn't the man at the start of the season.
So it is something to watch, at least in Seattle.
Maybe that changes. But the emergence of Kenneth Walker, I
I'm really curious to see where he goes in drafts
next year, just because of what you didn't have the
beginning of the season because he was hurt and Rashard
Petty was there. Then he takes over and burst out
of the scene. But the latter part of the year
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was not as effective and not as productive fantasy wise
as he was during the middle part of the season.
So I'm curious where Kenneth Walker goes, what about those
Arizona Cardinals Here I'm in Phoenix, is it is it
just Kyler Murray and everything else when it comes to
the Cardinals burn it all down the fact DeAndre Hopkins
got himself suspended and then was useless because well, Arizona
(34:06):
was useless down the stretch. So he finished as uh
w R forty nine on Fantasy Pros final scoring for
the year. He came out like gangbusters, but then you
had you know, him and Kyler beefing, and then he
had the injury and so it was, yeah, it was
downhill from there. I do want to mention James Connor
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when he came off of his injury. Uh, the second
half of the season, he was a very strong fantasy asset.
Had four top ten finishes at running back from Week
ten on. UH, so really strong finished for Connor. They
figured out, you know, once they didn't have Kyler Murray
in there, just hand the ball off to Connor. He
was a reliable running back and it worked out. Didn't
have the touchdown to match the years, right, you know prior,
(34:48):
but uh did work out alright. Finally, those l A
Ramshi should we just punt you don't you know what,
I'm that was their best asset. The cam Akers STI
he is the one that blows me away, I mean
from being inactive and on the outs too. Then you
know being resurgence. I'll take cam Akers for the way
and the fantasy playoffs suddenly had value for you. Just
(35:11):
like the tight end position that didn't the whole year.
Higbee did enough at the end to finish as tight
end fifteen. I do think it's very important though, to
note that when Cooper Cup was healthy, he was still
a top flight fantasy asset the first half of the season.
He he had five top ten finishes in his first
nine weeks, and of course he played ten games. Technically
(35:31):
his tenth game he had like negative one receiving yard
and he was out for the rest of the season.
You look at the games that he did play in,
he had that gigantic workload. Still a great fantasy ascid.
There shouldn't be any hesitation in drafting him next season.
All right, there it is. We have got all thirty
two teams in. Feel free to go download the other
episodes if you've missed it, see what we thought. If
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I want your flex. Alright, guys, we've got one more
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be our review of Super Bowl fifty seven and then
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(36:14):
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will join us a little bit later on in the
podcast as we wrap up our NFL team review when
it comes to fantasy football, looking at the NFC West
and the a f C U S. But Mike, it's
Super Bowl Week, the Pro Bowl in the rear view mirror.
There's a lot simmering in the NFL when it comes
to quarterbacks. We're talking a lot more than just Chiefs
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Eagels at this point of the year. It's that fun
part of the year, right all the silly season. Tom
Brady retires, I go see a d for Brady. It
was master thespian performance by Brady. Uh and the core cast.
I mean you see it, said, and I went and
saw it Sunday night. Uh. Theater was maybe a third full.
(01:25):
It ended up being number two at the box office
for the weekend. They did a good job selling discounted
tickets and trying to appeal to an older too. Arthritic
thumbs up is what you give it. Yeah, I mean
I do already have one arthritic thumb, but yeah, I'd
say it worked right. A bunch of sneaky, funny little
one liners. Yeah, there's a lot of cheese and contrivances
(01:46):
and and whatever else. But if you don't enjoy Lily
Tomlin and Jane Fonda, Sally Field and Rita Marino getting
after it and I you're you're, the premise is not
gonna get you in. All right. You're gonna get a
little bit of Tom Brady, a couple of little nods
and winks to uh, you know, the histories, and and
making fun of the Atlanta Falcons. Uh. And Rob Cordrey
(02:08):
as a podcaster might have might have stolen the show him.
Guy Fiertti Uh and Marshawn Lynch shows up. So a
little Seattle Seahawks love for you? Did I did I
tell you my eighty for Brady story? Have I told
that this on this podcast? How I had the scoop
on e d for Brady and completely sad on it? Yes? First,
(02:30):
do you know the story? It sounds vaguely familiar. I
don't think you've told it on here though. Okay, so
last year Tom Brady retires. It was on a Saturday,
and you know, obviously Brady retired, and we'll talk about
you know that and how it plays into everything. But
last year when Brady retired, I went to the golf
(02:51):
club to go hit some golf balls at the driving range,
you know, on a Saturday. Why not why not try
to get some of the kinks out. And I was
there and I was able to break the news to
the people at the at the club, at the range
and I said, yeah, Tom Brady retired. I actually told
one of the guys at the club, and then somebody
overheard me. They're like, what Brady retired? And so it
(03:13):
kind of started to spread throughout the range. In two
hitting bays down there was a guy who goes, yeah,
we're working on a movie. It's it's it's it's with
these old ladies, like these four old ladies that love
Tom Brady and it's called A D for Brady. And
I thought to myself, boy, is this movie sounds like
(03:34):
it's gonna suck, you know? But I didn't say that's
say that but he told me about it. And then
do you remember like a month or two later, like
last spring, when this came out, like this was breaking
news and I had known about it for two months,
but I didn't think it was a big deal that
they were actually making a movie. And he's like, yeah,
we're shooting some of the scenes down at so far.
(03:56):
So I had the scoop on A D for Brady
and I just completely sad on it, and yeah, could
the world. But and I'll let you you give it
two thumbs up, though you give I'd say it was
it's an hour and thirty eight minutes. It's not a
huge investment of your time. Uh, And I thought, I
(04:16):
thought it was a cute movie. And at the end
of it, right, is it is it award worthy and
all that? No? Uh, schlocky no, But you know, you
get the usual friendship themes, mortality themes both for him
as a player and uh, you know them dealing being
over eighty right, relationships and all of that fun stuff.
(04:37):
And Brady actually does have one scenes where it's like,
all right, they taught him to act a little bit.
This is pretty good. It wasn't bad. I'm like, all right,
One or two lines were a bit you know, extra
cheese kurds, but otherwise I thought it was pretty solid.
I give it a good look. First, you're a movie guy,
do you have any interest in seeing eighty for Brady? Um?
(04:59):
Probably not in theaters, but maybe on streaming later on.
It might be something I might actually check out at something. Well.
I heard that that's where it will get some love.
I heard some theaters had earlier showtimes to cater to
the older audience. I'm not kidding, you know, you're you're right.
They discounted like the move like a MC today on
(05:20):
Monday announced that they were going to start charging different
pricing based on seating, Like if like you were at
a concert or something, all right, here's the prime seeds
for the audio and whatever else. But for this they
actually discounted in a lot of cases extended you know,
like if you go to a mattenee a lot of
times what is it burst or something like that off
(05:43):
tickets that that they did the deep dive deeper into
the day as well, uh, to try to get people in.
What do you think about Brady's retirement? What was your
initial I was kind of bummed. I mean again, I
mentioned the mortality thing with with him, and look, I've
had a couple with scares. We don't need to go
into home, my home medical world. But it just like,
(06:04):
as so long as he was still playing Dan, I
didn't feel so old. Now it's another link to that
that group. I was like, all right, all those guys
are now wiped off in terms of their playing careers.
And there were a lot of times this year where
I'm like, all right, he's still a top ten guys
with some of the throws. And as the year went on, timing,
(06:25):
it's like, how much do you go to the line,
how do you go to the lack of run game,
how much of all of that? And then you know,
you embrace brace yourself through the cold, hard facts with
some of those throws not made against Dallas, right if
he if he doesn't throw the interception in the end, zone.
Is it a different game and Rigo maybe a different
feel to the end of the season or was he
(06:47):
just done right? I mean, that's that's the part I
the billion dollar question. I know he talked to Colin
coward Um on Monday morning and talking about when you're
done and all that stuff, but like for me, it's
the Catharsis of letting all that go. And I found
myself kind of doing that same thing, like damn man. Yeah,
(07:07):
the you know, the funny thing that you mentioned about
the throw and the interception is it's not that specific play, Mike,
But I just wondered if there were points throughout the
season where Brady knew Maybe we didn't know, but Brady knew.
I can't make this throw anymore. I can't like that
throw is no longer in my repertoire. If I'm if
(07:29):
I'm going to have to make that throw, I'm gonna
have to do something that I haven't done before, or
just you maybe know that you're slipping, you know. Maybe
that's the thing. I don't know if it caught Peyton
Manning off guard, but I don't think that Tom Brady
wanted to go out the way that Peyton Manning ended
up going out. Yeah, I you don't want to find
that Steve steep cliff right, So many athletes do. And look,
(07:52):
I'm I'm always a guy as much as a player
or coach can decide when it's their time. Outside of
jim beehe I'm complaining about everything and shaking his fists
like a grumpy old man anymore. Um is that you
know it's I'd love for everybody to be able to
go out on their own terms. And I wondered for
Brady and again, owing a little to my own personal
life and some choices decisions history that I don't need
(08:16):
to go in here. Eventually I'll end up on a
couch talking through it all. Is that maybe a year later,
some of the decisions he made to come back he
regrets and and maybe there there's some of that weight
that finally is like between that and a decrease in
the accuracy and ability on the field, that that that
compounds into a all right, it's time, it's time to
(08:38):
let it go. I think that number forty five, that
age he had brought it up. I always felt that
that was the mark that he wanted to reach, That
was the one that he was going to go for
and so then he did it and then maybe he
felt he was slipping. Maybe he didn't feel he was slipping,
but it was it was just to get the forty five.
It was always his goal. And when I think of
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forty five, we've heard Russell Wilson and before the before
the season against before him joining the Broncos, when he
was with the Seahawks, and they're talking about Brady's legacy
and his longevity, and Russell Wilson's like, yeah, you know,
like I want to play till I'm forty five. And
now we look at it and I'm like, well, somebody
has to want you until you're forty five, because I
(09:19):
don't know if they want you right now, Russell Wilson.
So so it puts it even more perspective about Brady
and how long he ended up playing. And to play
into your mid forties is just absolutely crazy because guys
were talking, oh, I'd love to do that and blah
blah blah. But to actually be viable and to be
relevant and heck, you get an m v P vote,
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you know, you know, just a couple of years ago.
So that's even more of a testament at the time right.
I think as we move on, we'll even be more
enamored with what he did later in his career, but
not completely shocked. They still thought that there was maybe
one year in him, especially honestly because he was now,
you know, post divorce. I thought maybe he needs something
to fill his life and you know, his time with
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and that maybe football would be it. But uh so
I was a bit caught off guard by it. But
I think in a few years we are going to
be really amazed at what Tom Brady did. Yeah, that's
where That's where Unfortunately, all the all the roads with
Tom Brady, we can commiserate on some of those decisions, uh,
and discussion points, Dan, but uh, you know, at some
point I got I'm asking you. I've got a chance
(10:21):
to go to an event in March through some n
f T thing I bought into kind of cool, a
lot of programs and interviews or whatever, and it's it's
in Tampa. I will be there earlier in that week.
It would require me to stay several days later. Should
I go on the off chance that I get to
harass Brady at this thing? Yeah? Absolutely? Why not? There
you go? Yeah, decision made a live on a podcast.
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It is Super Bowl week and the Pro Bowl did
take place in Las Vegas on Sunday. Just a quick
hit on that, Mike, I, I, I don't know what
the hell they were doing in Las Vegas. I don't
know what the blief that was. I'm I'm looking on
a TV and I understand that people can't catch on
the tennis scoring easy. Uh. I understand tennis scoring. We're
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sports fans. I had no idea how they were scoring
the Pro Bowl. It's six six and they're saying the
game is twelve twelve. They're playing a first half and
they're playing a second half and it's like a best
of three. I didn't I didn't understand the scoring fifty
yard field it was. I'm sorry, I hate it. I
couldn't stand it. And then what made me even more
(11:27):
bad is the day after I go and I look
and I see I see this headline on on UH.
It was on ESPN, and it says Pro Bowl hits
with players flag foot. This is the exact this is
the exact headline flag football a hit with players at
new Pro Bowl. That that was the title. That was
(11:50):
the title headline right under it. From Josh Jacob saying
this sucks. That's exactly at this point. Bleep is stupid,
this is this is what Gino Smith said. I didn't
know what to expect, but I think it turned out
pretty well. It got very competitive at the end, and
I think that's what they wanted. Is that a rain review? Um?
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Christian McCaffrey said, I definitely don't need to take more hits,
so I'm a proponent of it. Well, that's a ringing endorsement. Um,
you know it's a hit man. It's not negative speech.
It's like, I, you know what, my body's not gonna
hurt as much finishing. I'll let your Tyreek hill because
he got cleaned down. That you know, that would be
(12:35):
like hit record, hit record by Guns and Roses. Uh,
some of the songs were good, you know like that
that would be like my review. Mike Harmon says some
of the songs were good, and Dan Buyer said, well
track three was cool like that. That's what That's what
it would be. That that's the type of review that
(12:55):
you got from these players. Like these comments don't mean
it was a hit. These it's mean that they just
didn't want to get hit. That's all that it meant, well,
that was really well done because it was in Monday.
Is Axl Rose? Sixty's a good job by you? You
know how I knew that. You know how I knew
that stat because Cavino and Rich were recording their podcast
(13:18):
this morning and you're gonna be in Vegas later this
week broadcasting at Jason Smith on Fox Sports Radio. I'm
in Phoenix right now for Super Bowl Week, and they
were recording their podcast in one of the rooms either
above me or below me, and so I heard Cavino,
I'll be like Axel Rose today. I'm at the top
of this recording February six, Axl Rose, the six D one.
(13:38):
That's how I knew because I could hear them next
door recording their podcast. My goodness, I'm sorry the show, no,
I just the So we we look at the the
Pro Bowl from h in theory, right. I do this
with Smith a lot. It's like, I like what you're
saying in theory, and then I go on to a
(13:59):
this rate, what is our hum it is? In this case,
I'm looking at it from the bigger picture, like the
players and how much they love or hate it whatever,
get over it. It's kind of like loving you're hating
a seventeenth game and eventually got signed on to it.
Get over it. Uh. Same thing here is that you
know it's a bigger business picture, and you know, me
(14:19):
being the nerd that I am about it, with more
people not wanting their kids, at least initially playing tackle football.
I started at age eight, and I've got the knees
to show for it. Uh. And and my longevity in
doing any of that was shut down. But the the
idea that you're not doing that, but you're playing flag football,
(14:39):
because I'm seeing it all over where I am. I'm
sure if you go out to the park with your son,
you you see the the the people lined up. There's
a lot of soccer, but you're seeing teams practicing flag
football all over and California. Uh last week, you know,
a week before we get into the Pro Bowl and
Super Bowl, UH commissioned it that they're looking at it
(15:01):
as a high school sport for girls coming forward. So uh,
the growth in that side of things. Yeah, you're trying
to monetize it, so you may not be ready to play,
uh even as you finished college. Right, you may create
another viable league for guys that all right, You're not
to tackle on the side of the NFL, but you're
a damn good flag football player. And for guys that
(15:23):
are running around college campuses and whatever else, maybe there's
a whole other industry that pops up. And let's face it,
if you can make a television show out of it, uh,
live sports programming where you can bet always wins. Yeah,
you know it's it's actually a really good point by you,
a really good point because I think I'm being maybe
selfish and saying all of that. And I heard the
(15:44):
c I F stuff, and I, you know, I thought
it was great. My niece actually tried out for the
football team and in her hometown like a year ago.
She loved football y and and and I'm not I'm
not saying this jokingly, like I this is like a
true story. And she she lasted one practice. She understood, now, okay,
this is what tackle football means. And she was done,
(16:09):
like she's like, all right, this is not for me.
And I was super proud of her for doing that,
because to even have the guts to be like, you
know what, I yes, absolutely, and you know what. I
hated football, you know, we like we talked about it.
I could not stand football practice. I hated every second
(16:29):
of it. And and that's why I've always said, like
with that sport, it is something really that you have
to love and and you know, and I look at
at a sport that I do love in golf. And
you know, golf's taken a great boom since COVID, but
prior to that, they were trying to find ways anyway
to get people out on the golf course. They're having
foot golf. We obviously know about disc golf. They're making
(16:52):
holes bigger. You know, they're saying, you know, go out
and just play nine holes, go out and play five,
you know plays. They were trying to do any thing
to get someone to play the sport, to get anybody
to play the sport. So I guess when I sit
there and criticize the Pro Bowl, you have a much
better perspective and a much more correct perspective than than
I did, because I just pissed and moaned honestly about
(17:13):
the game, and I got to realize that it's not
about me. So your your observations were very astute, and
I think of have changed my look out everything. Now. Look,
you're you're entitled. I mean, I'm not saying aesthetically, it
was what I wanted to sit and watch Peyton. Peyton
crying like a like a baby at the end like
he would have been doing as a player, was great.
And Eli loading was great. Hey, can't take a knee,
(17:36):
that's a legal that's against the rules. You know, all
of that kind of stuff was fun. Like I I
just think back to like thinking about your your niece
is the for me, I had the the double wammy. Physically,
I was already getting beat up um unfortunately. But the
other part was I just hated my coaches, Like I
(17:57):
just had bad experience after bad experience. So I'm like,
am I gonna subject myself to more of this? Like
my my daughter had a bad experience with her first
soccer coach, and I tried to encourage her because I
knew she was going to move away from from this
individual pretty fast. Life all my life's a circle in
a lot of ways, and with some of this, but
when with this, like she gave it another shot, found
(18:19):
a coach that was more. Uh. I mean, she's eight
years old. Like, you can't come out of a season
hating You shouldn't hating a sport when you're eight years old,
and so she gave it another another chance, and now she's,
you know, defending national champion and doing all this other
crazy ass stuff. And it was almost rude because the
(18:39):
guy was such a jerk. So I'm glad she at
least gave it a chance because I didn't. I stopped
and said, I'm not putting up with this my It
was one time where I did step in from my
mental and physical health to say I'm not subjecting myself
to the next rounded jerks. I I just I football
(19:00):
is a tough sport to love. So I have so
much respect for anybody that plays D three, you know,
D two, because you you really have to love the
sport to be able to do that, and to to
play and go and play, you know, a school with
no scholarship, and to be able to go through the
practices and the work and the level and the hits,
and and a sport where they say the injury rate
(19:23):
is so to be able to have that sort of uh,
you know, love for the game. Tip of the cap.
But you know your your version on the Pro Bowl
is right. I've got to realize everything is not about
me and follow Now we just have to figure out
how we could profit off it, buddy. That's all man.
So the Pro Bowl is done, it is, it is
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Super Bowl weak, and after the Super Bowl Mike Bursh
and I will end up doing a Super Bowl recap
and also give you our draft, our first draft of
the fantasy football season. That will come in our next episode,
in our final episode of the I Want Your Flex Podcast.
But before we we do that and look ahead the
(20:05):
next week's episode, before we do our divisions. To wrap
this episode up, what do you think about Chiefs Eagles?
How do you think it plays out on Sunday? Well,
my homes will be healthy, hurts should be healthy. Er
can can the Chiefs d D line make some hay?
Because that's where I'm having a lot of fun. Like,
I love the skill position player. Let's talk about Kelsey crap.
(20:27):
It's all about the offensive and defensive lines here. Who's
able to hold up? Because you've got the two best
sacked teams in the National Football League Number one Seeds,
all of these things. Eagles dealing with a bunch of
injuries on the old line. I mean, how many headlines
do you have? You have Lane Johnson, I think I'm
gonna be able to go. I think I'm good. I
think I get through one. More like, how much is
(20:48):
that as ropa dote versus this guy is as we
were just talking about, injured to the point where, all right,
I'm dragging myself to the finish line, because if that's
the case, then you might make some hay and get
after Hurts early and often. The run game for Philly
obviously huge. I pick Kansas City before the year. It's
awful tough to to go away from them here, but
(21:09):
a little concerned about the secondary UH for Kansas City,
but enough up front that I think that makes a difference.
Gimmy casey um, let's go thirty four, Okay, all right,
I'm going Philly. I just think that they're gonna be
able to run and continue to run and run, whether
it be Boston Scott, whether it be Kenneth Gainwell or
(21:31):
Miles Sanders are obviously Jalen Hurts. You mentioned, you know,
the secondary and Lagarius needs status at the time of
the taping UH still up in the air just because
of the concussion that he suffered in the UH in
the a f C Championship game. I just think the
Eagles are just better up front on both sides to
to your point, and I don't fault you at all
for sticking with your pick, because my picks lasted the
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total of one game in the playoffs had the Packers
and Chargers. Packers didn't make it, Chargers blew their lead
against the Jaguar. So I actually have the the car
blanche to move off of a pick or pick a
different team. I'm going Eagles. I'm gonna go. I kind
of want Mike. I kind of wanted to pick a
funky score of a two point conversion here or there. Um,
So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go thirty three. And
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I think that with the two point, does someone get
the octopus? That's one of the prop bets. It's plus
six the octopus. But you score the touchdown and then
you score the two point conversions. Oh wow, I'm like
thinking NHL throwing, you know, throwing it onto the ice
and what Detroit? So yeah, exactly, let me throw one
(22:39):
more at you, scoring drive of less time than the
national anthem takes from Chris Stapleton. Oh yeah, I would.
I would hit that for sure, I think so right? Yes,
is minus one eight nos plus yep, fifty eight seconds
left in the half, someone you can go down and
score something quick and then Bucker you go shoo portone
(23:00):
with him and make a make the field goal. Ryan Burser,
our executive producer, do you have a Super Bowl pick
for Super Bowl fifty seven? I am picking the Eagles
as well. Um, I think that they They're just an
incredibly strong, well rounded team. Obviously. I think what's interesting
with both teams is I think both teams kind of
make a case for being the underdogs. So they're both
(23:21):
going to come in with that mentality, which is really
bizarre when they're both fantastic teams. So but I I
will go with the Eagles. I will say, how about
let's get weird? Can the mayor of Cincinnati says something
to piss off the Chiefs? Again? The question, I gotta
find the pictures. Once upon a time, I had the
Eagles kind of as the adopted non Bears team. So
(23:44):
I used to run around in a Jeworski shirt from Sears,
and I had one of those Eagles bikes, Eagles bikes
out of this Sears catalog that the logo and everything
front and center and then the uh the frame was
the color of your whatever team you want. Oh man,
(24:05):
I can't believe you are going against your Eagles bike
Mike and Super Bowl fifty seven. Really, I'm out on saws. No,
I'm just kidding. I just said the old BMX Huffy
that was by the way, in Saints colors. It was
black and gold. Yeah. One one of my one of
my highlights of childhood was driving on that. That will
(24:26):
be a mix bike. Alright, So Harmon's got the Chiefs,
Burch and I taking the Eagles and some funky scores.
There is your Super Bowl fifty seven preview and predictions. Alright,
as we hit the home stretch here on I want
your flex. Get Mike on Twitter at Swallen. Home from
Ryan Burschinger on Twitter at Ryan Burschinger and you can
find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox. Let's
(24:47):
finish our division review of fantasy football. We take each
NFL team and we picked something about that team and
what happened fantasy wise throughout the season. Sometimes we double up,
so those we triple up. Sometimes we all have unique ideas.
We haven't done the Western divisions in the a f
C or NFC. Let's start with the a f C Western.
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Let's start with these Kansas City Chiefs. Mike Harmon, what's
your biggest fantasy takeaway from the Chiefs this past season. Well,
I mean it's just the overarching thing of Hey, Tyreek
Hill doesn't make a team. Uh. You had eight players
with at least two hundred fifty receiving yards, which meant
you had a lot of guesswork beyond Travis Kelsey in
(25:28):
terms of setting your fantasy lineup. First, Um, yeah, I
mean you have both Mahomes and Kelsey finishing and number
one at their position. I'll focus in on Travis Kelsey
because he just absolutely dominated all tight ends, of course,
finishing with hundred yards. Uh. The next closest tight end
had eight, that's t J Hawkinson. Uh. With touchdowns, he
(25:51):
had twelve. The only tight end to reach a double
digit touchdowns. I think Tasso No George George Kittle had nine.
Thankfully it's not Taston Hill that second. Um and uh yeah.
So the the complete and utter dominance that Travis Kelsey
provided at the tight end position, I'm sure won a
lot of people titles. Well, I I was going to
(26:12):
triple up and I'm going to triple up on Travis
Kelsey For the point of this. I thought he was
gonna stink, not not stink. I thought that there was
going to be a drop off. I thought that you
saw signs last year in his usage that the Chiefs
were limiting a little bit because the snaps were down,
and I actually thought that was going to continue. And
I thought you were going to get a much bigger
(26:32):
boost from Juju Smith Schuster, from Marquees Valve Scantling. I mean,
Kadarius Tony wasn't there at the beginning of the year,
so I can't say that, but I thought that that
was going to be an opportunity. And guys, for me,
it always goes back to Clyde Edwards Hilaire as well,
because I thought he was going to pick up some slack. Now,
Isaiah Pacheco and Jerk McKinnon, um, you know, did some
(26:53):
of that, but I just completely I was I was
ready to sell on Kelsey and there couldn't have been
a worse decision. And you're benching Joe Mixon in one
point game, all right, Yeah, Denver broncos Um, I mean
Bell unlock step like I guess the only let me
(27:13):
let me just say this just for time. The Javante
Williams injury and how that running like that backfield like
just all of a sudden completely dissolved because you have
this fifty fifty split and then all of a sudden,
Latavious Murray is your like key back at the end
of the year like that he had I think all
of the Russell Wilson It was hid by the Russell
(27:35):
Wilson junk that we just talked about in the week up.
But it's funny coming into the season, right when we
were talking about him, like they're gonna resign Melvin Gordon?
What they do? They resigned Melvin Gordon and then he
couldn't hold on to the football, Like what the hell happened? Man?
And so uh and then Williams gets hurt and it
all goes asunder and really quickly. I drafted Albert oh
(27:56):
in a couple of weeks. That zero you in fantasy
that that was. That was a rough one, Thank you,
Albert oh Man. I did play some dulcitch later on
a li will say that what about the charge of
a sleeper that never woke up any what about the
Chargers first want to start with with the alighting bolts. Yeah,
(28:17):
I don't think It's talked about enough that Justin Herbert
was actually a pretty big disappointment and fantasy this season. Uh.
He was drafted as QB three, which is crazy because
he finished his QB twelve. Uh. If you ended up,
you know, just sitting and taking Geno Smith off of
free agency way later, who we'll talk about at some point. Uh,
you ended up with a much better position. So unfortunately,
(28:39):
and I think a part of that, of course, is
the injuries that happened at wide receiver for the Chargers.
Harmon Chargers stake. H Well, I look at the Chargers,
you just have the number of injuries. Mike Williams uh
still dominant, even though the yards per catch were down. Uh,
he just can't stay on the damn field. So the
story the song remains the same. Just steal from led Zeppelin. No,
(29:01):
I am with you with that. I think Austin ekeler
Um for uh, for the value if you are if
you are drafting Austin ekeler Um, where you did, um, great,
you know it worked out, But I am not almost
looking ahead to next year if they actually have a
competent running game. Kellen Moore coming in there on what
(29:24):
the value of Austin Ekeler could be I think there
could be even be brighter days ahead. Um, because they
weren't great running the football, but Eckler still was able
to put up points because it was a cool threat capability. Well,
you get Slater back, you know, make some changes there.
There's a lot of potential flux in the receiving corps
Keenan Allen and Gerald Everett and others that may be
(29:44):
on their way out. I mean, it would be remiss
to not mention Josh Pulver though d Ad himself a
nice year. Seventy two catches, seven sixty nine and three
h guy would have been undrafted in virtually every league
and put up some good numbers. Also a dream fantasy
player for people this season. Finishing as RB one and
being RB one in Week seventeen fantastic. Yeah. For as
(30:07):
bad as they were, he was, he was worth it.
I mean, you know, like like statistic wise, you know,
we talked about their run game, but fantasy wise, I mean,
Ekeler was it and things could be getting better, which
is crazy. So let's go to the Raiders. Anybody want
to start, I'll start with the Raiders. The fall off
(30:29):
of Darren Waller um injury wise. Obviously Davante Adams coming
in um has an effect of that. But there it
was just a few short years ago that I thought
Darren Waller could be te one in the entire National
Football League, and then that is that has fallen off.
You want to go where Josh Jacobs? You know, he
(30:51):
was drafted his running back twenty two and finished his
RB three. Phenomenal season for Josh Jacobs. He saw a
chance to get that bag and he got it. Guy
really done? Uh? And then Adams still finishing top three
despite the inefficiency, inefficiency, ineffectiveness of Derek Carr and the
demotion and the fact that Waller and renfrom missed so
(31:12):
much time. I mean, Jacob's obviously the beneficiary of Adams
being out there. Whatever new contract he signs, he should
send up a gift gift basket. All right, that's the
a f C West, NFC West. Let's start with the
San Francisco forty Niners. Mike Harmon Europe. I'll take the
mid season acquisition that crushed everybody else. Just Christian McCaffrey
(31:35):
stayed healthy. Lad you down the way and if you
had drafted wishing, wanting hoping that he would find a
better team in situation he did, uh and maybe carried
you to a title on the On the connection of that,
you know, Debot took a hit. Um. You know, he
was so good last year. He really was. But I
(31:56):
felt that McCaffrey coming in would end up having a
trickle down effect with others. And I felt that it
did happen with the likes of of Deebo Samuel, So
Diebo Samuel was not the same as he was Um
a year ago. He's still great, He's still really good,
but just not the same effect. And I think McCaffrey
took away some of that and George Kittle still being
a very valuable asset at tight end. As I said,
(32:18):
nine touchdowns and unfortunately I have to correct myself, Taysom
Hill did have nine touchdowns overall. So thanks damn it,
burs It's all good. Yeah, the the week that I
don't play him is when he lights up the Seahawks.
So that was still still bitter in my heart. What
(32:38):
about what about the Seattle Seahawks, My Seattle Seahawks, Bursch.
I'll let you have the have the floor on this. Sure,
well it is it is Geno Smith's coming out party
right finishing his quarterback six. Just an incredible season for
Gino really really awesome. Uh over four thousand yards. It's
a twenty nine touchdowns, I mean, just a great season
(32:59):
for Gino Smith, lifting up an offense that people were
very low on coming into the season. I'll take Tyler
Lockett finishing on the edge of the the back end
of w R one the I'll take Kenneth Walker. But
Ken Walker did trail off at the end of the year,
and it's kind of funny because he hit a rookie wall,
(33:20):
but he wasn't the man at the start of the season.
So it is something to watch, at least in Seattle.
Maybe that changes. But the emergence of Kenneth Walker, I
I'm really curious to see where he goes in drafts
next year, just because of what you didn't have the
beginning of the season because he was hurt and Rashard
Petty was there. Then he takes over and burst out
of the scene. But the latter part of the year
(33:42):
was not as effective and not as productive fantasy wise
as he was during the middle part of the season.
So I'm curious where Kenneth Walker goes, what about those
Arizona Cardinals Here I'm in Phoenix, is it is it
just Kyler Murray and everything else when it comes to
the Cardinals burn it all down the fact DeAndre Hopkins
got himself suspended and then was useless because well, Arizona
(34:06):
was useless down the stretch. So he finished as uh
w R forty nine on Fantasy Pros final scoring for
the year. He came out like gangbusters, but then you
had you know, him and Kyler beefing, and then he
had the injury and so it was, yeah, it was
downhill from there. I do want to mention James Connor
(34:26):
when he came off of his injury. Uh, the second
half of the season, he was a very strong fantasy asset.
Had four top ten finishes at running back from Week
ten on. UH, so really strong finished for Connor. They
figured out, you know, once they didn't have Kyler Murray
in there, just hand the ball off to Connor. He
was a reliable running back and it worked out. Didn't
have the touchdown to match the years, right, you know prior,
(34:48):
but uh did work out alright. Finally, those l A
Ramshi should we just punt you don't you know what,
I'm that was their best asset. The cam Akers STI
he is the one that blows me away, I mean
from being inactive and on the outs too. Then you
know being resurgence. I'll take cam Akers for the way
and the fantasy playoffs suddenly had value for you. Just
(35:11):
like the tight end position that didn't the whole year.
Higbee did enough at the end to finish as tight
end fifteen. I do think it's very important though, to
note that when Cooper Cup was healthy, he was still
a top flight fantasy asset the first half of the season.
He he had five top ten finishes in his first
nine weeks, and of course he played ten games. Technically
(35:31):
his tenth game he had like negative one receiving yard
and he was out for the rest of the season.
You look at the games that he did play in,
he had that gigantic workload. Still a great fantasy ascid.
There shouldn't be any hesitation in drafting him next season.
All right, there it is. We have got all thirty
two teams in. Feel free to go download the other
episodes if you've missed it, see what we thought. If
(35:52):
your team, they're always available wherever you get your podcasts.
I want your flex. Alright, guys, we've got one more
episode of the season to go, and uh it will
be our review of Super Bowl fifty seven and then
our draft, the first draft of the fantasy football season. Fun,
all right, enjoy the game, so for my joy, Arizona. Yes,
(36:14):
we'll do. And you enjoy Vegas and Burst, you enjoy
Sherman Oaks. If we're Ryan bur Singer and my garment,
I'm Dan Buyers. We'll talk to you next time right here,
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