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Brian No, former Penn State All American, Rich Hornberger, and
fs are betting analyst Jared Smith. Oh what's going on everybody?
Hope you're enjoying your Saturday morning As we inch closer
and closer to Super Bowl fifties seven, raring to go
over right here, a lot of NBA trade deadline news,

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and then it's like, oh, yeah, the Super Bowl is
almost here, Almost time for that big game. Finally, how
do you gents doing today? I'm starting to become a
big and ball slap over here, how about you guys? Yeah,
I'm I'm pumped up, I'm excited, I'm feeling uh, I'm
almost feeling misty eyed that the football season is cruising

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to a halt here because I've had so much fun
with you guys talking ball week after week. And then
the other side of it is these storylines. I mean,
they're consistently getting better in the NFL. You just mentioned
the trade deadline in the NBA, pop your popcorn every
single year, because there will be just momentous changes that

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could um that could either crumble your hopes and faith
in your team or give you new life. You know.
That's what the trade deadline is all about in the NBA.
And the NFL has seen what the NBA has done
around the trade deadline for years and years and years,
and they went, you know, we want to do that too.
We we want to we want to put our star
players on the move too, you know. And and maybe

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it's not the NFL, right, The NFL is probably too
global of a term because the NFL resembs represents thirty
two ownership groups. It's really the players. They've noticed what
the players in the NBA have done for many, many
years and the strength of their union and all the
things that come with that, and so as a result,
you just get better storyline. So if there's one thing

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I'm gonna miss the most is waking up in the
morning and having no idea what somebody's gonna say or do.
That's going to completely shift the landscape of the sport
as we talk about it on a daily basis. Yeah,
it continues to grow, and I think this show and
all the other shows that that kind of cover the
different angles of football. It's such a big industry now

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that there's shows for all types of things, including gambling,
which is obviously what we love to do. I'm nostalgic
to this week. The first week after the Champion games,
you almost just take your breath because it's twenty consecutive
weeks and then you get a little bit of a gap,
and now this week you do start to feel those
you know, game week vibes. Right. Um, But when I

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got back from from Phoenix yesterday, guys, I had a
very special delivery waiting for me. Um. Roger while I
was away, delivered the Super Bowl script to me directly,
UM to my apartment here in Vegas. So I have it.
I'm ready. I have everything that's going to happen on Sunday,
and obviously gonna share it with you find folks here
today so we can make some money off it, right,

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that's great. That's great. We always love when you share
the NFL script with us. That's awesome. Let's start with
the the QB matchup here, because there are a lot
of angles to go, and we'll go through most of
them on the show today. But if you start with
my Homes and Jalen Hurts and just a note on
each of them. If you look at my Homes, he
wins his second NFL m v P award. So it

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was just voted on. It was unveiled at NFL Honors
on Thursday night. He received forty eight of the fifty
first place votes and interestingly enough, Jalen Hurts got one
of the other votes and Bill's quarterback Josh Allen got
the other vote. But Mahomes gets his second m v P.
We all know about his credentials on the other side,
Jalen Hurts. I ran across an interesting quote from Bruce

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Feldman covers college football. He's done it for a long time.
He had a column on the Athletic and he was
talking about covering Jalen Hurts once he transferred from Alabama
to Oklahoma, and he said Hurts was different. He seemed
to be a lot older than all the other college stars.
Some Heisman hopefuls are going on ore are like twenty

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one going on twenty five. Hurts was twenty one going
on Saban. I love that line so much that talking
about the maturity of Jalen Hurts, and we saw it
when he was benched for two a tongue of iloa
in the National Championship game against Georgie. Hurts was benched
at halftime, would not have been more gracious, more like

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happy for two of like I'm so glad he came
in and saved the day, and it really spoke to
his maturity. I'm so curious how each quarterback performs tomorrow.
And my big question is how much is Hurt's gonna
have to do because he hasn't had to do a
whole lot in the previous two playoff wins against the
Giants and the forty Niners. Perspective leaks. You have to

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always throw that in there. How much will he have
to do against the Chiefs for the Eagles to win?
That's a huge question in this game. Well, I'm not
disagreeing with you, um, because he did less than he
had in the regular season, but he still did a
lot because Jalen Hurts is so heavily relied on um
to make this whole thing go for the Philadelphia Eagles.

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You know, if you look at the Eagles, the success
they've had in the run game is largely predicated around
the success that Jalen Hurts has had as a rushing
quarterback or as a potential run threat. Even in the
passing game when you have a dual option, and the
RPO is something that people talk about all the time,
Oh RPL, RPL. You don't see it a ton in
the NFL. You see, it's some you see more than

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you're used to, but you don't see that the clip
that the Philadelphia Eagles are running at it. They they've
ran one hundred eighty five plays of the r p
O during this season. That's league leading. And so when
you look at how important he is not just in
the passing game, but in the total offense of this

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Philadelphia Eagles team, that's when you start to think to yourself,
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, those videos I remember from when
he was at Oklahoma squatting six hundred pounds, that's the
reason why he's being used the way and utilized the
way he's been in Nick Siriani's offense, because if you don't,
then what's special about Jellen Hurts sort of starts falling

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by the wayside. He truly is a dual threat quarterback.
You know, he truly is a guy who's going to,
you know, make You have to be be honest about
protecting against the run, which opens up things for Smith
down the sideline and Brown and Goddard over the middle
of the field because you're sucking all of these defenders
up closer and closer to the line of scrimmage. So

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you know, we'll spend hours and hours and hours talking
about the greatness of Patrick Mahomes, and we should because
he's just one of the most sensational players we've ever
seen play the game. Jalen Hurts is carrying this Philadelphia
Eagles team on his back. I think the word that
I'll use for him, I'm fascinated to see how much
of a willing runner he is in this game, because

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there's a chance that he might be the more banged
up of the two quarterbacks. We don't really know the
injury status is of both Hurts and Mahomes. I think
both guys have these kind of shrouds of mysteries around
very key body parts ankle and shoulder, and as evident
as it was for Mahomes with the limp in the
championship game, there were some moments I remember in the

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Energy Championship game where Alan hurts his running and he
gets up and he's little wins just a little bit.
And the willingness of him to be a runner I
think is huge in this game because the read option,
which is probably the toughest when when you have a
willing quarterback runner. I think the read option with the
past threat off of it, which obviously the Eagles have,

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is probably the toughest thing to defend in the NFL today.
You we saw it with Lamar Jackson. They exploded and
that was his MVP year, and you know they've they've
kind of adjusted to it a little bit. I don't
think he's as good of a throwers as Jalen, and
I think Jalen since the shoulder injury, the throwing element
to his game has also been a little bit less

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than what we expect of an m v P caliber quarterback.
To be um, the numbers are weird. He actually hasn't
had a really successful time throwing it to the right
since the shoulder injury too, which is that's his that's
his arm side. So there's some things in this game
I think physically I'm worried about with Jalen mentally, Obviously
it's his first Super Bowl, it's Nick Serrianti's first Super Bowl.
How does he handle those emotions, those butterflies that will

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inevitably be there before kickoff? But I think with Jalen
it's it's how willing of a runner he is and
how aggressive Nick Sirianni is with calling those those read
option plays, because I think that's that's gonna put the
Chiefs defense in a in a bind if he is
able to pull it and and be the runner. Yeah,
that's the question is I think for both quarterbacks, how

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effective will they be running the football? Right? Because you
laid it out very well Jared the shoulder injury. With
Jalen Hurts, i think let's go for broke time for
Jalen Hurts. In terms of running the football. For Mahomes,
how much did the two weeks help his ankle out
and how much more effective is he running the box?
We know in a matchup like this, if Mahomes is

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one against a really good pass rush. He's a threat
running the ball, and he's done that routinely in big games.
But I don't know that you're gonna see that same
mahomes Uh tomorrow, not being one percent. The other thing
is when you look at Jalen Hurts throwing the football
in the playoff wins, he hasn't had to do a
whole lot. He had a hundred twenty one passing yards

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against the forty Niners, which, don't get me wrong, I'm
not calling him out for it. That's exactly what he
should have had the way the game played out. So
I think that in some people's minds, they're they're selling
him short a little bit because we haven't seen him
had those big playoff performances. We haven't had to. They
blew out the Giants, they blew out the forty Niners.

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It doesn't mean he can't do it against the Chiefs.
And if you look at the Chiefs pass defense one
of the worst in football, one of the worst where
the bottom in the NFL. So styles make fights, and
I think that there is an argument because you have
seen at times, even though Hurts hasn't had to do
a whole lot in these playoff wins. When he's had
an opportunity, sometimes he's missed a J. Brown was wide

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open for a big game against the forty Niners and
he sailed it. He overthrew the guy. So I get
that there's some especially when the other quarterback is Mahomes.
There's like Hurts out. I don't know, but against the
Chiefs defense in a close game, which should be, he's
gonna have to do a lot more and I think
he's capable of it. We just have to see if
he can do it. Yeah. By contrast, Patrick Mahomes through

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for three twenty six against the Cincinnati Bengals in the
NFC Championship Game. You combine the two playoff games for Hurts,
He's only thrown for two D seventy five yards. So
it goes to show you just how reliant the Chiefs
were on Patrick Mahomes to get them to the Big Dance.
And and maybe from just a passing standpoint um the

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fact that the Philadelphia Eagles, and some of it was circumstantial.
Hassan Reddick knocked out Brock Purty, Josh Johnson gets knocked
out during the game, party goes back out onto the
field and the NFC Championship game with a noodle for
an arm, he couldn't even complete a pass beyond five
yards of the line of scrimmage. So the Philadelphia defense
or uh didn't have to worry about about the deep

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threat at all. But it is, it is what it is.
You know, the numbers don't lie when you look at
passers in the NFL. Mahomes the type of quarterback who
if the Chiefs are down ten in the fourth quarter,
the game is far from over. The Philadelphia Eagles has
spent more time leading in terms of score during the

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course of their season than any other team in the NFL.
They've spent more time with a lead than any other team,
and so we haven't had too many of those spectacular
Mahomes moments for Jalen Hurts this season, and for good reason,
because they've been playing with a comfortable lead. So you
can lean on the run game, you can lean on
your your your rushing offense in order to get ws.

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And I'm very curious, right you know, if if we
took a poll right now on this show, if the
Philadelphia Eagles are trailing by ten, what what level of
faith do you guys have in the Eagles to win
that football game, versus if the Chiefs are trailing by ten,
how how much faith do you have that they could
potentially win that game? And and sometimes those those disparities

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determine outcomes. I think it's a very simple answer to
that question, very little faith. And I think it's because
of who Mahomes is and his reputation compared to what
Jalen Hurts. His reputation right now is, and the numbers
back up a very strong view. The lens of Jalen
Hurts is if the game script does not trend positive,

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the Eagles struggle. When the Eagles have a fifty percent
or less win probability in the game, Jalen Hurts, his
efficiency numbers drop off a cliff. It's just and a
lot of that is correlated. If they have a high
wind probability, obviously they're playing well, so the efficiency numbers
would naturally be higher in those scenarios. But unlike Mahomes,

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who seems to rise to the occasion, we haven't seen
that with Jalen Hurts. It's been when things are rolling,
the running game is rolling, it's easy. I can make
the one read. It's a paint by numbers offense. With
this Eagle's offense, it's very much one read, get it out,
move the football, run the ball. You've got your playmakers,

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get it to them quickly and efficiently. I haven't seen
a lot of big time throws, a lot of deep
throws since the injury. That's been the one thing I've
noticed has dropped off dramatically. As well. The number of
scrambles has dropped off dramatically. Again, I unlike Mahomes, who
we have seen him raise his game when the times
are toughest and the adversity is coming, we have not

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seen that with Jalen Hurts. When the adversity has come,
it hasn't come a lot, but when it has come,
he hasn't handled it well. And I think that's the
issue that I have with with backing the Eagles in
this game is I don't see this being a bowl
out like the first two games, where it's natural that
this is going to be a close game. At some point,
the Eagles are probably going to be behind, maybe they're

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behind by two scores. That's where Jalen Hurts I think struggles,
and I don't think the maturity and just the experience
I'm not saying that he's immature, but comparatively, speaking to
Patrick Mahomes, you're never going to be more clutch than
he is not at this stage of his career. So
I just I think that's where I struggle a lot
with the Eagles is we're we're We're. I think that's

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gonna be a close game, and if it is, that's
where Philly is kind of struggle a little bit to
be efficient with the football. Jalen Arts specially, you know,
I want you to set your Cassio watches, your role
X is whatever, uh about an hour from now the
top of next hour. I'll give you a few reasons
why I have more faith in Jalen Hurts than I

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in Super Bowl fifty seven tomorrow. But of the last
twenty one Super Bowls, the opening kickoff has not been
a touchback. So like eighteen of the last twenty one
Super Bowls, it has not been a touchback, which blows
my mind. We see touchbacks routinely. In the NFL. Of course,

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they moved up the kickoff line to the thirty five
yard line, so a lot of kickers just booted straight
out of the end zone. And uh, that hasn't been
the case for the opening kickoff. Now, the footballs that
they use at the very beginning. Pat McAfee laid this
out on his radio show a couple of years ago,
where they don't work in the football's like normally the

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equipment guy will scuff it up pretty good, work it in.
You can boot the heck out of that thing. These
are sort of like commemorative footballs. They get hauled off
straight to the Hall of Fame right after the opening kickoff,
and so it's like kicking plastic. They don't travel as far.
I find that to be really interesting. Also, take this
for what it's worth. Harrison Butker, he's the Chiefs kicker.

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He and Jake Elliott the Eagles kicker. Their touchback rate
is about sixty. But Butker in the uh the Super
Bowl before when he kicked off, I can't remember if
it was. I don't know if he was the kicker
for both super Bowls. Have to go back and look,
but at least against either the Box or the Niners.

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His initial kickback was returned. Even though he's normally a
touchback guy, his initial kickoff was returned. So you're getting
plus money for no touch back at plus one thirty,
inviting and inviting possibility right there. If you think about dabbling,
I think it's really cool. Um. So one of the
things that players know because we'll spend a lot of

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time with equipment managers. Those dudes are pretty cool. They
also hook you up with your gear. Uh So, you
spend a lot of time with those, um with those guys,
you know, getting uh you know, getting your your T shirts,
your shorts, launder new cleats, new helmets, whatever your issue is,
you know, mainly its equipment. You'll go and see those guys,

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you know, and um and and so. And by the way,
the equipment room in the NFL looks like the I mean,
it's just like a toy store, you know what I mean.
You walk back there and like you just wander through
these aisles of cleats that have been shipped in from
the you know, the various sports manufacturers, whether it be

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you know, at the time I was playing, Reebok was
still big involved, but under arm or Nike or whoever,
Jordan brand like, they will have all those cleats and hey,
try these on, try these on. These are the new ones.
Here's the gloves, here's the stuff, you know, here's the hats,
you know, whatever it is. Anyways, those guys will sit
down with a football and will work on a quarterback's

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footballs for hours. That's not that's not an overstatement. Like
you will have and and it'll be one guy usually
in the equipment room, trained to do it the way
the starting starting quarterback likes it done. And so it's
this whole process. It's first to take it off that
shiny then near like cherry red uh polished layer of

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the ball, and getting down to the raw leather, and
then working mud, like legitimate real mud into the ball.
They'll buy mud and and it'll come into can and
they'll moisten it and they'll wipe it all over the
ball several times. And they're just trying to create friction basically,
So when you've got a ball in your hands, it's

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not gonna slip out on you during a rain game.
It's not gonna slip out on you if you get sweaty,
you know. So it's just as important for kickers. Though.
You'll see kickers do this thing where the the points
of the ball right, they'll take their knee and they'll
kneel down on the ball. What what they're trying to
do is create a bigger sweet spot in the ball right.

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So just you know, you hear about at or in
in baseball talk about the sweet spot of the bat
where you have this this spot on the bat where
you get the most pop. Well, that's the same thing
for a kicker. They're trying to increase their odds of
hitting the sweet spot and ball by making them the
center of the ball fatter and so the same way
an equipment manager will work a ball out for a quarterback,

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the kickers, the punters, they'll do the same. So it's
an odd stat but Brian, you bring up a great point,
I mean key on that stat because you could make
some cash that way. I uh, the twelve year old
in me had to. I had to fight back like
giggling during that segment. Rich just it was just the
idea of equipment manager a ward. Quarterbacks like their balls

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like ruffed up in a certain way, like mud on
their balls. They always have literally for years I've been
around the game. You know, quarterbacks love some muddy balls.
Oh man, But you're so right, because there's there's such
a and it goes. I don't want to bring up
the deflate gate stuff, but it kind of is in

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that vein where the quarterbacks they like their balls in
a certain way and they want them to be so yeah.
Perfect when you see when you hear, when you listen
to him coming out of someone else's mouth, it's hard
to not laugh. Right. Perfect. Anyways, where where where were we? Um? Yes,

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I looked it up Brian during during that little ball
uh you know vibe there that it was Butcker, But
it was actually Bucker was the kicker from the cheese
both Super Bowls. But it was actually the Niners that
kicked off in and and that was both of those
were returned last year. Was the touchback? Um, it was

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McPherson did did kick off through the end zone and
it was a touch back last year. So yeah, I
think the if you want to get into the mental
dynamics of it, it's the freaking Super Bowl. I want
to return this kick like I want to be the
Devin esther and you know whoever's back there, I don't
know whichever return guy will be. But there's a bit

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of a you know, a brivosy to it as well,
you know, maybe a little bit of of of false brivosy.
But I do think you you want to see guys
take it out and and and and run. You know,
you want plays in the super Bowl. You you want
as many opportunities as possible to show case your talent.
And I do think it as long as it's not

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through the end zone, like if it's a I think
Devin Hester said once, even if it's nine yards deep,
I'm bringing it out, um. And I think that's kind
of the attitude that a lot of these guys probably
will have in that moment um. But man, that's a
tough The reason that I struggle with the like the
instant I mean, they're really fun and I love it.
Don't let me stop you from betting the coin toss

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and the stuff that's like instant gratification, touch back, that
kind of stuff. But I feel so cheated afterwards. It's
like the game just started and the bets already over.
It's a very it's a weird it's a weird feeling.
But um, if I were to bet that market. Absolutely,
I would say the no touchback. What's so interesting to
me is some of this stuff I don't think about beforehand.

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Like I knew if you if you get a new football,
I've gotten a new like NFL football over the years,
it would be like a Christmas present or I just
want a football this year or birthday present. And it is.
It's slick. It's super slick, and it's hard to grasp
and just throw it. It's just it needs to be
roughed up a little bit. I know that from throwing
the ball. I didn't know it had an effect on

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kicking it. I just don't. You don't kick the ball
around as much as you throw it. And so I
find that to be really interesting. And I never really
thought about this either. You think about the Super Bowl
last year being in l A, and you always hear
like a fast track that's more of the field turf,
you know, close to astro turf. Not quite, but it's

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closer to astro turf that it is real. Asked what
you were on last year, and I wonder because you
always hear about a defensive line they're faster when it's like,
you know, astro turf or whatever. I wonder, for a kicker,
does that help you get a little bit more torque
when you boot the like really you're on natural well

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close to natural grass in the Super Bowl this time,
I wonder if the surface has anything. Now we're getting
ridiculous over here. Well let's go with this. Eighteen the
last twenty one no touch back. That's a pretty good
that there's not gonna be a touch baby. The astro
mechanics thinking, and also you gotta you gotta remember, like
from the same point that you were making Jared, the

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idea of like bravado and like really want to be
the man in the moment. There's also that feeling and
I felt this before in big games, and it's a
weird feeling, man, where you kind of you're so nervous
that you're losing sensation to your extremities. I don't know
if anybody's ever felt this, Like some people reported on
their weddings, some people both faint on their wedding day

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where like all of a sudden, they're like I lost
my legs, Like I just I can't feel my legs.
Sometimes it's your feet, like literally like not on your
wedding day, but like in sports, like you're like, my feet,
I don't quite know where my feet are. You gotta
regain them. It's crazy, It's really weird. It is. And
so when you have a moment where you know something
takes your breath away, you know you're super scared or

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you're super nervous, your body goes into that fight or
flight mode. And for the most part, as a football player,
you're trained in these big moments and you've been through
them before, and and you really do you sort of
just hone in on the task and you almost become
the task, Like you just you forget about yourself and
you just like, all right, what do I gotta get
done on this play? But right before kickoff, like when

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you think about it, like the what the kicker has
to do is start the game. Nothing's happened yet, Like
you gotta go out there and kick this football to
get this thing underway. That's a lot of pressure, that's
a lot of nerves and the ash bulbs that go off,
Like can we see from the aerial shots of every
Super Bowl? I think some of some of that status

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on Friday night, the Dallas Mavericks want at Sacra about
one fourteen, Kyrie Irving twenty five points and ten assists,
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tied a career high with forty four and Oklahoma Cities
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eleven rebounds. In the Sixers one nineteen to watah eight
victory over the Knicks and the Cleveland Cavaliers. What in
New Orleans one eight teen to oh seven, Donovan Mitchell
scored thirty the Calves on a five game wedding street.
The Washington Post reports That's Sixers owner Josh Harris is
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the Commander's facility. In college hoops, finally, New Mexico State
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One of the most entertaining stories of the entire week
was Roger Goodell, the NFL Commissioner, gave his State of
the NFL Union address, if you will, and he defended officiating.
Officiating has been a big topic, was not pristine, shall

(29:20):
we say, Particularly in the a f C Championship game
between the Bengals and the Chiefs a lot of missed calls.
But Goodell said he doesn't think officiating in the NFL
has ever been better, is what he said. I don't
know about you, guys. It's one thing to defend officiating.
It's another thing to go to the links that Goodell
went to. If you said something like, hey, look, it's

(29:44):
a really tough job. I really appreciate what they've done.
Sure we look for ways to be more accurate. Stuff
like that, like kind of had their back, but not
not they're his arm around their shoulder. I don't think
it's ever been better. How can you say that with
a stray face when the last football game we saw
had multiple blown calls. That's just a joke to make

(30:06):
a statement like that. I wish that this statement went
like this. We are completely aware of some of the
the bigger errors that the officiating staffs have made over
the past few consequential games in the NFL, especially in
this postseason, and we're efforting to fix those issues. I

(30:29):
wish that was a statement. I mean, one sentence and
you will appease the entirety of the fan base, whether
it's true or not. I mean, like to like. For example,
when you're married and your wife brings a problem to
your attention, doesn't matter what it is. It doesn't matter
what it is. What you want to know is that
you are going to have very least try to make

(30:51):
a change right, doesn't matter what it is. Don't ignore
or completely off the skate responsibility by saying, oh, nothing
to see here, hunt, you're crazy, I'm perfect. That works
never so like the fact that Roger Goodell was like, listen,
listen everybody, thank you for your comments, but we're great

(31:17):
and moving on, Like what are we doing? That was ridiculous. Yeah,
there's a term for this in the relationship world, and
I've been I've unfortunately experienced it many times in my
past while I'm still single. It's called gas lighting. It
pretty common phrase. Yeah, it's basically saying I'm sorry you

(31:38):
feel that way, instead of I'm sorry for the refereeing
being so bad. I'm sorry you feel that the refereeing
is bad, but we don't have a problem. Um. Yeah, Unfortunately,
it's just par for the course. With Roger. I think
he's so living in this fan to see land of

(32:00):
what the NFL really is compared to how the average
human being. Let's be honest. Roger Goodell makes tens of
millions of dollars. He is not the average fan watching
the games every week. He views it through very rose
colored glasses, through the lens of his business, his his life.
And I guess he just doesn't watch the same games

(32:21):
that we did. And that's the only explanation that I
have for him saying that, is he because there have
been multiple occasions this year where the league has come
out and said, yeah, we screwed that up, and for
him just to completely gloss over that and to make
it seem like all it' hunky. You know what. It
reminded me of the scene the Naked Gump Leslie Nielsen
when like everything's blowing up behind him. He's like, no,

(32:42):
nothing to see here, Everything's okay. Um, that's what it
reminded me of. It was just it was delusional. I
I don't gaslighting is really the nicest way of putting it.
It reminds me of Star Wars. I think he just
tries to pull a Jedi mind trip from time to time.
I'm really do or he's like yeah, and he expects

(33:04):
it has to be like you know what, I think
He's right. I think it's ever been better. Dude, Seriously,
just saw all those blown calls. What are you talking
about here? I think Adele thinks he's a Jedi master
and he's not. But rich working in obfuscating enough to you,
I can't just gloss over that. That is well, tie

(33:26):
brow over there. Well, I appreciate it, you know. I
I try to give my football commentary with a side
of mirth. There's listen, here's here's the reality of officiating
in the NFL is this is going only going to
be more important because of shows like ours like think

(33:46):
about what has changed over the past five years in football, Well,
you could say a lot and you wouldn't be wrong,
but specifically sports betting. Sports betting has exploded state to state.
It's being legalized. We have apps now, aiming apps where
I can open my phone and I could I could
leverage serious amounts of money on any given play, any

(34:06):
given game. So when the States get get get lifted
to the extent that they are on a daily basis
for many of your fans, officiating has never been more important.
I think the fix to this problem is make that
job one of the most sought after jobs. In the country. Yea,
make officiating in the NFL one of those jobs where

(34:28):
you are a millionaire as soon as you sign up
for the job. I want. I want lines of referees.
I want people excited to go out and umpire, you know,
their kids little league game because maybe one day they
can get to the major leagues. I want people lined
up to be on the peewee football field throwing yellow
flags and getting getting better at it so that they
can work their way up through the big tent and

(34:49):
maybe one day make it to the pros. I want
this to be one of the most sought after jobs
that they actually have refereeing colleges, you know. I I
want that. That's that's what needs to have up in
order for this to get better, because right now it's
really bad. Well I'll just say super fast. Is there's
a reason the saying is bigger, faster, stronger, and not smaller,

(35:11):
slower or like you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
it's just such things are happening so fast, And I'm
with you, Rich, that's a good idea. But my thing is,
thanks are happening so fast, and they're only gonna be faster.
You're gonna miss stuff. You need eyes in the sky,
you need a sky judge. They're dabbling with this video assist,

(35:35):
you know. I think they just need to take it
has worked well at times, but I think they need
to take another giant step in that direction to just
fix the egregiously missed calls. I'm not expecting every call
to be like forever. Yeah, that's that's the one that's
that's got to be corrected. Yeah, absolutely has to be. Hey,
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sorts of rambunctious here on Super Bowl Eve. What do
you see in your parlay pladder here? Well, last week
we gave a more conservative parley. It was three legs.
It was kind of just random bets that I liked,

(38:24):
and we kind of mushed them all together into a
four to one parlay. This time we're getting nuts, we're
throwing and I do there's every Super Bowl. This is.
If you were going to bet the two parlays, I
would put significantly less on this one because it is
a massive long shot. But it's all touchdown scorers and
two guys that you probably would expect and and you know,
I think our decent bets are scoring this game. And
then one guy that's completely off the beaten path that

(38:46):
if it hits aybute Um, Patchecko and Sanders. Again, those
are kind of the two studs I would say on
these rosters with the running game. Um, I know Kenneth
Gaine has got a lot of love over the last
week or so, and rightfully so we talked about him
last week. He's been fantastic. But I think in tight games,
I think you're gonna see a little bit more of Sanders.
And that's why I would lean on him, uh in

(39:07):
the running game for the touchdown prop and in Pacheco
again in the in the red zone. The Eagles defense
actually running wise, is a little bit worse than than
they are, you know, comparatively speaking for the full uh,
you know field, So I would put Pacheco and Sanders
in there. And here's the here's the crazy one days.
This is the sprinkle sprinkle on the nut job one.
Justin Watson returning from his health scary had a bit

(39:31):
of a sickness last week, didn't play. There are two
weeks ago in the h Championship game, and the Chiefs
run a lot of thirteen personnel, and I think that's
the personnel we're gonna see a lot of in this game.
That's one running back, one receiver, three tight ends. With
Watson back in the mix, I think you see a
lot more thirteen personnel in this game. And I think
Watson gets a look near the bow line, and I mean,

(39:52):
this is forty five to one hundred bones, what do
you think Justin Watson, Pacheco and Miles Sanders dutchdown. Definitely
a long shot. It's definitely a long shot. But I
liked your reasoning. You have to, you know, like two
running backs that could very well score and Pacheco and
Miles Sanders. And if Justin Watson just bolt of lightning,

(40:15):
Like where does this guy come from? Yeah? I like
That's how I mean, I have some fun with these guys,
have some fun, pick some players that you don't think
you're gonna score and you never know. Crazy stuff these
anytime t dum props. I'm liking them more and more
as weeks go by because you can sort of hone
in on the players you think are gonna get the
most action down near the goal line, especially in a
big game, because you're gonna want to take away the

(40:37):
main threats for these quarterbacks. And you went off the
beaten path, My friend, you do. Watson by himself is
is like one so rich brought this up down by
ten points? Which QB do you trust more? I think
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Happy Saturday morning to you. Super Bowl fifty seven right
around the corner. We are goodness, But kickoffs about six
thirty Eastern time, eight eight plus, so we're about thirty

(41:22):
two and a half hours away. There you go, there's
your official countdown. Thirty two and a half hours away.
We are inching closer and closer over here. Now, rich
orn Berger, he does have a shaved clavical and he
comes up with brilliant questions from time to time, you know.
And he came up with one in the first hour here.
He said, down by ten points. It's a good way

(41:45):
to really gauge how you truly feel about something, you know,
And he said, down by ten points, how do you
feel about Patrick Mahomes? Down by ten points? How do
you feel about Jalen Hurts? And it's a good way
to put it because it does really put you You're
I don't know what you could say, you're uh truffinity

(42:09):
for yeah, your trust and Jalen Hurts, and uh, I
look at it this way. I always go back to
styles make fights. And if Mahomes is going up against
the number one past defense in football, the Eagles gave
up the fewest passing yards in the entire NFL. That's
really impressive. When they're fourteen and three. A lot of

(42:31):
teams are trying to throw the ball against them when
they're down late in games. Yet they gave up the
least amount of yardage through the air if you look
at the Chiefs, not the same situation. And that's why
I think it's a lot closer than I would assume
most people would think it is. I think a lot
of with oh Mahomes, my homes maybe by a country mile,

(42:53):
and I don't think that's the case. If Mahomes is
going up against the Chiefs pass defense, Okay, he's got
up again, is the Eagles past defense. If Jalen Hurts
is going up against his own past defense, it's a
different ball game. He's going up against the Chiefs pass defense.
And when you look at the tail to the tape,
it is much different. If you look at the Chiefs

(43:13):
um passing completions. They allowed twenty in the NFL passing
touchdowns allowed dead last, they allowed the most passing touchdowns
in the entire NFL. So what Jalen Hurts specifically going
up against the Chiefs pass defense. Yeah, I think it's
a lot closer the tale of the tape between Hurts
and Mahomes. Who you trust more? Down by ten. See,

(43:35):
here's the interesting thing about the Philadelphia Eagles, and I
don't often times like to reference this, but it's worthwhile
in a in a vacuum, like when we're talking about
one game. The Philadelphia Eagles have had success defending the past,
but then you go and you look at some of
the teams and the quality of the passing offenses that

(43:56):
they faced this season during the regular season, and you
realize the compilation of that season has benefit that benefited
them greatly. I mean, the the NFC East in Division,
I mean, look, it is what it is. It's not
it's not a terrible division, but you're going against the
likes of Carson Wentz and Taylor Heineke. You're going against

(44:19):
the likes of Daniel Jones in division. I mean, the
Dallas Cowboys definitely can pass the football around, but other
teams included the Green Bay Packers who had a rough
year throwing the ball, the Tennessee Titans who have Tannehill
and Malik will Willis. I mean there there there were
a lot of examples of teams have really struggled advancing
the football in the past game throughout the course of

(44:41):
their regular season, and they had a great regular season.
I want to take nothing away from especially that front
seven and the rush that they've put on a lot
of these pastors throughout the regular season. But that is
a compilation, you know. So when when you go against
a Kansas City and this is the first time they
faced Kansas City this season, you have to you have

(45:03):
to put it through the prism of like, right, They've
had success against a lot of these teams I just mentioned,
but a lot of these teams aren't Kansas City and
can't do what Patrick Mahomes can do. And so that's
that one variable is super duper important. You know. As
a matter of fact, they faced Daniel Jones three times
this season, you know, if we're including postseason, So it's

(45:26):
it is what it is. You can only play who
you can play. I'm not taking I'm not taking too
much away from the Philadelphia Eagles defense. But I am
putting in the caveat that you know they are going
against a different breed and and that word trust, that
that word trust is super important when you talk about
quarterbacks because it is one of the most important um

(45:47):
analytical tools that we use when we look at any relationship.
You know, I was just talking about marriage a minute
ago with the idea about Roger Goodell's affinity for the officiating,
and you know, you can't lie to your wife, right,
you can't hide from the truth. That's that's the reality
of the situation with with the fourth quarter down by ten,

(46:08):
with Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes. I want to say
that I can trust Jalen Hurts in that situation. I
want to because I like him a lot. I think
he's got a great personality. I think he's a great leader.
I think he's a great player. But I've seen Patrick
Mahomes down by ten in the fourth quarter and steam
back and steal a game that they were supposed to lose.
So I trust Patrick Mahomes more. Yeah. Uh. The Eagles

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have played the easiest schedule of opposing passing offenses this season,
the easiest no other defense has faced an easier schedule
of passing offenses all season. Here the quarterbacks that the
Eagles defense has faced since Halloween. Josh Johnson, Brock Parody,
Daniel Jones, Davis Whobb, Andy Dalton, Justin Fields, Daniel Jones,
Ryan Tannehill, Matt Ryan Taylor, Heineck, Davis Mills, Kenny Pickett,

(46:55):
Dak Prescott allowed forty points three and forty seven passing yards.
Aaron Rodgers they allowed thirty three points in that game.
Those are the facts. You want to say that doesn't
matter because they did this, and that that's fine. I
just read you the list of quarterbacks the Eagles have
faced since Halloween and the two worst games they had defensively,

(47:15):
we're against Dak Prescott and Aaron Rodgers. And guess what, guys,
Patrick Mahomes is better than everybody on that list, and
it ain't even close. Maybe it's close with Rogers, that's
the only one that it's probably close with, but it's
really not that close at this level, at this stage
of their career. So that's the game within the game.
How does Jonathan Gannon slow down? What is the best

(47:39):
offense in the league? Efficiency wise? You know, I test
wise with Mahomes doing wow factor things. I don't know
the answer to it. Here's what I can say. Last year,
jonathanan And almost lost his job after Derek Carr torched
the Eagles for like five hundred yards. So I don't
know why this year it's all of a sudden. John

(48:01):
and Gannings, you know this genius um. I think he
is fortunate that Jalen Hurts is on a rookie deal
and they were able to go out and sign a
lot of really good defensive players and brought them into
the mix, and they've played really well. But I think
when you get down the brass tacks the names of
the names of quarterbacks I just read to you, they
can't do nearly what Patrick can. So I don't I

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think this is a very easy answer for me, downten.
Jalen Hurts is not the guy Patrick Mahomes is. And
if the Eagles are down in this game and the
game script flips and they have to throw and you
put them into obvious passing downs, I just I don't
see a path to victory for Philly if that's the
game script. You know, I would like my nickname to

(48:46):
be changed to Brian the shovel. No, because every now
and then I gotta dig deep. YouTube guys over here, right,
you're just looking stiff this level. Let's look at the
opposing quarterbacks. Let's look deep here than just the opposing
quarterbacks over here, Let's look at the opposing pass catchers. Okay,
this is important. Look at who the Eagles have faced.

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They have faced some elite pass catchers. Justin Jefferson of
the Vikings did nothing against the Eagles. That was early
on what was it like week two, very beginning of
the season. Kirk Cousins through for a lot of yards.
We wouldn't say that he's the top five guy, but
he threw for a lot of yarded Justin Jefferson did squat.
There was a joke that Justin Jefferson did a good

(49:30):
job covering Darius Slay that night. But look at the division.
Look at Ceedee Lamb. Who do the Chiefs have to
catch the ball? They have Travis Kelsey, who's elite, and
they have a collection of just guys. Okay, who do
they have that's as good as Ceedee Lamb? The Cowboys receiver?
No one? Who do they have as good as Terry McLaurin,
The Washington receiver No. One. So yeah, Mahomes is way

(49:54):
better than that bad list of quarterbacks you rattled off there, Jared.
It was just like, goodness, I have nightmares after hearing
that list. But we've been on a lot of those
guys this year, so I'm gonna have nightmares. But when
you start looking at the past catchers that didn't do
great against Phillies defense, I think you gotta take that

(50:15):
into account. And I would also throw in we've seen
this time after time again in the Super Bowl, where
a top offense gets shut down by a top defense.
I don't know if the Eagles are gonna do it
to that degree, but we certainly have seen it a
couple examples. Think about Super Bowl forty two the Patriots
an ungodly amount of team points, did nothing against the

(50:37):
Giants and a great pass rush, right, what do the
Eagles have? Great pass rush? Think about Super Bowl forty eight,
Broncos most points in NFL history, did nothing against the Seahawks.
Latest example, probably you go to Super Bowl fifty three
the Rams. They scored three points three against the Patriots.
That is Jared Goff though, Okay, that's Peyton Manning. That

(51:02):
pretty good and Tom Brady, who's the goat, and those
guys did nothing in those respective super Bowls that I
rattled off there. So we're waxing poetic about Mahomes. Don't
be shocked if he isn't as stellar as some people
think he's gonna be. Well, And I think that's a
fair counterpoint, I really do. I I think game plan
and the commentary of styles make fights that you brought

(51:25):
up earlier are going to be hugely important when we
look at, you know, the autopsy of this game on Monday. Uh,
we're going to realize, like every Super Bowl, that the
two weeks leading up to the game we're almost as
important as the entirety of the season because you get
to prepare for one team and one team alone. You know,

(51:45):
you can fire all the rest of the shots left
in the chamber because you're not saving anything on film
for the next week. Well you know, I mean you
just don't care, You don't I mean, what are you hiding? What?
There is nowhere to hide. Uh, everything's gonna be sanitized
in the daylight of the bright lights of the Super
Bowl comes Sunday. So yeah, yeah, man, I I'm with you.

(52:06):
I'm not saying that Patrick Mahomes can't have an off
night on Super Bowl fifty seven. I'm not saying that
Jalen Hurts won't play out of his shoes and cement
his legacy as one of the next great players at
the position, the most important position in sports. But if
you go back and you look at history, and you

(52:27):
look at some of the names you mentioned, like the
Payton Mannings and the Tom Brady's, the reason why they're
gonna be in the Hall of Fame one day is
because consistently in those big moments, they delivered. And that
is the case with Patrick Mahomes already. So when I'm
thinking fourth quarter down by ten, who do I trust more?

(52:49):
It's it's not absurd to say, well, Patrick Mahomes, And
it's not even close because we haven't yet seen Jalen
Hurts do it. It doesn't mean he can't. And it
doesn't mean that that Philadelphia deef isn't gonna shut down Mahomes,
because that's a possibility too. But who do I trust
more today? You know, September, September today, February eleven, It

(53:12):
is without a question, uh, Patrick Mahomes, because he I mean,
how many times have we seen him in those types
of situations? I I don't know. I mean the proof,
the proof is already out there, we have. I would say,
real fast, before you go, Jared, You're good. We would
have said the same thing about Super Bowl forty two.
Who do you trust more? Tom Brady or Eli freaking man?

(53:35):
Exactly realize the guy leading the winning touchdown drive? You know?
So it can work out that way? It can't. And
I agree that. I think if the pass rush for
Philly is gets home, then this is going to be
a game that is going to be dominated defensively. And
and I'll be honest, I think we haven't talked about
him once yet. It's been about an hour plus. I
hope at some point we give them some flowers. I

(53:56):
think the Chiefs defenses serves a little bit of love
to Steve Specknoll's about the coach in his fourth Super Bowl.
And I think this Chief's defense is playing a lot
better than people think. And I think the story on
Monday might be the Chief's defense won them this game.
Maybe not like M v P kind of performances, but
certain plays throughout the game, the scheme being able to

(54:17):
throw Jalen Hurts some some curveballs and getting Steve Spagnola's
brain into what is a kind of a interesting um
you know, secondary, very young secondary with some with some
really good up and coming players. And on the other
and then up front, I think defensively, they've they've got
some dudes up front that can get after you two.
So I think both defenses are going to have their

(54:39):
say in this game. It's just a matter of who
makes the play at the time, at the timely moment.
I just I don't know how we're having a conversation
about who's the more clutch of these two quarterbacks, though
I I know that Jalen has had a great year.
But I think if this is a close game, and
it's a tight game back and forth and Mahomes has

(54:59):
it asked, I feel a lot differently than I would
have Hurts has to make the throw to win them
the game. I don't see that happening to me. The
game script for Philly has to be they have to
have success running, and they can because they've had success
running it all year and they do a great job
running the ball, and the Chiefs at times have been
susceptible to the run. So I could absolutely see Jalen

(55:23):
Hurts playing well because the running game is also working
for him. But I don't it has to think that's
not mutually exclusive both of those things. I think the
running game has to be good in order for Jalen
Hurts to play well with Mahomes. It doesn't matter running game,
no running game. He I think he is going to
play well. And I think that's the difference of how

(55:43):
I feel about this specific matchup. It's Hurts needs the
running game, he needs some extra help. I don't thin
Patrick Mahomes cares who his receivers are. I don't think
it matters if he has a receiver as good as Ceedee,
Lamb Hill, the hot Dog Vendor guy. If he's open,
that's how good he is. Whereas Hurts, I think Knee
everything else around him to be working well in order
to have success. Man, I don't know. We're just gonna

(56:05):
view it differently. Um. I think, Look, Mahomes has the credentials.
We know all about that, but we also saw him
get out played by Jimmy Garoppolo for three quarters in
a Super Bowl matchup against the forty Niners. So we're
talking about a game and as we know, anything can
happen in a game over the course of Mahomes been
at this for five years. He has been freaking tremendous.

(56:27):
If you look over the course of the next I
don't know what three years as Jalen Hurts being a
starting quarterback, is that gonna arrival what Mahomes has done
his first five No way, no chance. But it doesn't matter.
It's just one game, you know. And I don't know
why we're treating Jalen Hurts like he's some broken down misfit,
like I'm not see option or something. I'm not saying that,

(56:48):
but when you compare him to Patrick Mahomes and listen
and listen, you know, I I hate to point this out,
but this is a quarterback who in college was benched
during a championship game. You know, I I I I
know that that is not who he is today. I mean,
he is obviously a far cry from the player he

(57:09):
was at Alabama. But it's it's interesting, man, Like you know,
there are certain mental obstacles that every player needs to
get past over the course of their career, and there's
no question in my mind that in his mind that'll
come up either because interviewers will ask questions about it. Hey,
last time you were in a game of this magnitude X,

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Y or Z happened. So I mean, is that it
all on your mind? Well, it wasn't until you asked me,
you know. I mean, it's it's it's like it's a
part of the history. So you know again, I you
you mentioned it, and I think it's perfectly stated. You're right.
Mahomes can be outdueled at times, and he was for
three quarters in that Super Bowl that the Chiefs ended

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up winning, his only Super Bowl win so far. But
in the fourth quarter he showed up. And that was
the question, who do you trust more in the fourth quarter?
And there's no question in my mind I trust Patrick
Mahomes more trailing in the fourth quarter than Jalen Hurts. Hey,
and Jimmy Garoppolo didn't, right. Jimmy Garoppolo is the guy
who overthrew Emmanuel Sanders. Maybe that's what age of what

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happens with Jalen Hurts, who overthrew a J. Brown the
last time we saw them on the field. But I
don't know. Man against that specific defense, I give him
more of a shot if he is down like Allah
Eli Manning. If he's down by four late one final drive, yeah,
I think hurts again against that defense can pull it off.

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I think he's capable. And uh, well, we'll settle on this.
He has to for a lot of people to truly
buy in on the guy. That's what he asked. He
has to play better than he did two weeks ago,
that's for sure. And two weeks ago we're very, very mediocre.
And something got on the phone with David Tyree because

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No coming up next. We gotta talk about keys to
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and pipe charts and everything. But the biggest key to
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to win? This sounds like nerd talk about. I think
it's good and I'll make it simple for you guys,
because we've gotta get to Shamus McGee and see if

(01:00:25):
he's got sacred heart or I can't wait to hear
what he's got. There's a bunch of college hoops going
on today's UM I look at it this way. For
the Chiefs, not the only key, but the biggest key
to win. I think it's protect my homes. If you
give my homes consistent time to do what he does,
He's eventually gonna make place like that's just he's too

(01:00:48):
good not to. And I think on the counter to that,
I think it's very similar. For Philly. The biggest key
to a win, not the only, but the biggest is
put heat consistently on my let your pass rush eat.
If you get him off of his spot and he's
compromised a little bit with that ankle, that is advantage

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Philly all across the board. So for the Chiefs to
protect Mahomes for Philly, put heat on fifteen. I think
it's that simple. Yeah. Yeah, If you don't get to
Patrick Mahomes, you're not winning this football game. I mean,
that is as simple as it gets. If if Patrick
Mahomes is upright for the majority of this game, or

(01:01:29):
not running for the majority of this game, you're in
a lot of trouble. And I forget where I heard
it from. It might have been you Brian, it might
have been you Jared, But I I remember somebody just
discussing mahomes ankle and the thought process of getting him
to range to his left side, because if you think
about it anatomically, in order to get anything on a

(01:01:51):
football when you're running away from your throwing side, you
gotta throw off of your inside ankle, which would be
his right ankle. So if he's gonna get any sort
of mustard on a ass um if he's ranging out
to his non throwing side, he's gonna have to rely
on the bulky injured leg. And that would be a
great test, Like if you could somehow manufacture rushes to

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come into his right side and push him out of
the pocket to his left and at the same time
spy him enough to contain him and not have him,
you know, threatening you by running straight line down the
field and getting yards on the ground where he can
and forcing him to throw. In those situations, you may
get him off balance enough, or or throwing off of
a weak leg where you can't put enough on it

(01:02:35):
and float some balls out there and get some interceptions
that way. I agree about pressure. I mean there's a
reason why the pressure rates and and who generates the
most pressure is a massive, massive part of my handicap
every week. And when you look at running the football,
that's the other part of this that I think is key.
Um early downs, especially right we we've discussed early downs

(01:02:59):
and why first and second down are more predictive of
how good of an offense, you are third downs more volatible,
four thousands, even more volatile. Uh early down rushing success.
No one does it better than the Eagles. Can they
have that success? And can they set Jalen Hurts up
into third and manageable situations so it's not obvious passing

(01:03:20):
downs and you don't just have the pressure flying in
his face and you can allow the versatility and the
flexibility of the Eagle's offense to work. On the other side,
I think the way that the Chiefs will combat pressure
is what I said earlier in the touchdown props segment
thirteen personnel three tight ends. You have Watson now back
on the field, who's like a tight end. Instead of

(01:03:42):
trying to block us on Reddick with just one tight end,
they might use two tight ends. They might chip with
thirteen and then try to get him on that tackle.
So I think the personnel groupings giving Andy Reid time
to prepare for the scheme and the formation that the
Chiefs are gonna run a lot of their base stuff
out of. I think you're gonna see a lot of
three tight end stuff. And then again on the Eagle side,

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you have to be able to run the ball the
Niners did not do a good job in closing up
the A gap. They ran a wide nine technique with
kin Lawn Armstead outside of the guards and Rich I'm
sure you have experienced this. Jason Kelsey, the center had
a free release. He likes the pull, he likes to
get up in the gap, and he did whatever he wanted.
They ran it down the middle. They ran out of
three wide receiver sets, they ran weak side away from

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three wide sets. So they were very creative in the
running game against the Niners. Can spags draw up some
creative ways to get Chris Jones in the A gap
and try to, you know, combat some of those very
difficult to prepare for runs. So I think it's the
running game for Philly, and I agree it is. It
is the protection and how you keep Patrick Mahomes up right.
I'm just surprised forty Niners head coach Kyle Shanahan didn't

(01:04:48):
get called out more for getting two quarterbacks killed. Like,
what is he thinking, Alex block Hassan Reddick with the
tight end, we should be good? What was that? I'm
surprised we haven't. We've heard more of like, oh, a
poor unfortunate forty Niners and the game was stolen from them,
and all that be as It's like, how about Kyle
Shanahan do something more brilliant than Alex put our backup

(01:05:10):
tight end on Hassan Reddick, who's tied for a second
in sacks in the NFL. A, what was that? I'm
surprised you didn't get called out more for that. But
there's no calling this guy out because he's uncalled out
of bull That's right. He's Isaac Lowan Kron and he's
as close to perfect as you can get. You can
only go downhill from here after that introduction, Thank you

(01:05:31):
so much. That is all is quiet as we speak
at Super Bowl fifty seven in Arizona, and that is
precisely how both teams want it. So at this stage
there's only sort of offbeat news, and we found it.
So there's a county in Pennsylvania. It's Lehigh County. It's

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about sixty two miles north of Philadelphia, and yesterday the
Lehigh County Corners Office issued a report of deaths, and
fifth on the list on the Lehigh County Corners Office
Report Kansas City Chiefs various age ranges, Kansas City, Missouri.

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The Kansas City Chiefs will be crushed and laid to
rest on Sunday, February twelfth at State Farm Stadium. Pronouncement
will be completed by the Philadelphia Eagles upon completion of
the Super Bowl. Go Eagles there. It is in the
official Corners report from the Lehigh County Coroners. Have we

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have we learned nothing from the Cincinnati makes What are
we doing? Precisely? For that is a great point TBD
on his re election prospects. By the way. In the
NBA on Friday Night, the Dallas Mavericks what at Sacrabatto
one two to one fourteen, Kyrie Irving twenty five points
and Ted Asis the Mavericks now two and oh since

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acquiring Irving there in the honeymoon phase shake gil Just
Alexander tied a career high with forty four and Oklahoma
Cities one thirty eight to win at Portland's Jimmy Butler
the game winning slam dunk with point three to play,
as the Miami Heat defeated the Houston Rockets ninety seven
to ninety five, and the Philadelphia seventy six ers rallied
from thirteen down to beat the Knicks one nineteen to

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want await Joel and beat thirty five points and eleven rebounds.
Actually fellas I remember the time the Eagles played in
the Super Bowl against the Patriots and Super Bowl thirty nine.
Bill Belichick actually, uh put the Philadelphia plans for their
championship parade on the screen as part of his pregame
motivational speech. So we've seen stuff like this before. Backfire

(01:07:48):
back to you. Absolutely, Yeah, that was great. I if
you ever watched America's game on NFL Network with a
chronicle super Bowl winning team's entire season, they showed that
footage of Belichick. He was like in front of the
projector and he's like and he went in great detail,
it's supposed to start on Main Street and then we're

(01:08:10):
gonna take a ride on Swanson and what if you
guys are interested in that. He went through the whole
plan of what the championship parade was supposed to be.
And something else that was funny about that game he
went to the wrong bench initially, Like when the game
was about to start, he went to the Eagles bench
and he's like, oh, shoot, we're on I'm on the
wrong sideline. I think it's funny. How if the Patriots

(01:08:31):
lose that game. We might have made a big deal
out of that, like Belichick wasn't ready, he went to
the wrong sideline, and that that was a team that
was ill prepared. You know what I mean, we just
take it and run. Sometimes, well, you know it's it
is look, details matter, right and um there are certain
times where when when a detail is missed and it

(01:08:52):
doesn't cost you a game, unless it's glaringly obvious, then
you don't worry about it too much. Like for example,
like ma Her isn't gonna get off easy missing four
straight extra points and it never happened in NFL history before. Um,
But but it didn't cost the Cowboys the game, so
it wasn't as much of a talking point the next

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day after that that Cowboys win over the Buccaneers. And
it also was an easy win. I shouldn't say easy.
Nothing's easy in the NFL. But it was a big
It was a big spread of a win for the
Cowboys over the Buccaneers. So when when you miss a detail,
it is emphasized after a loss. You know, when you
are spot on when you're playing bang up, like hey,

(01:09:35):
everything was battened down. That also is probably highlighted too
much because you can win ugly in this league, and
we see it more often than we see teams win pretty. Um,
So yeah, I I get it. I mean, that's that's
such an interesting point though, where you know you could
see one gaff, one misstep, one one critical moment on

(01:09:55):
the sideline, like you know, to use Brady as an example,
you know, lambing down an iPad and all of a
sudden you're like, oh, oh, well, he's he's he's lost it.
You know, he's he's really frustrated. This is going to
have an effect on the next drive. And then he
goes and you know, scores a beautiful passing touchdown on
next drive. But it it details matter in the NFL.

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Um we would throw tablets if we didn't hear from
our guys Shamus McGhee this morning. So thankfully let's get
to this right here. Follow the money, real good money. Yes,
let's follow the money with Jamis McGhee, team lead of
sports Trading at bet MGM. Welcome in here, Shamus, Good
to be with you again. Man prop bets, prop bet
scalore outside of the coin toss, Shamus, is there a

(01:10:41):
prop bet that's getting a lot of traction this year
bringing in a lot of cash. Well thanks for having
me back, guys. Aside from uh correct score, which is
just the leaked script came out, that's been a it's
been pretty popular. If it's the Eagles thirty four, it's
it's not gonna be a pretty book for the game.

(01:11:02):
But Kelsey first touchdown score is I think comfortably the
most easily the biggest most step props so far, um
outside of the you know those correct score markets. So
I'd say that coin tosses up there, there is a
decent handle on the first kick. Will the opening kick
be a touchback? With a lot of people saying no,

(01:11:25):
there it is, I was gonna say that was that's
Brian's best picket a day right there, and we might
see that in the rapid fire segment. Is there anything shame?
Is that surprised you? With the market so far opened
kind of a pick up, I guess in some spots
that chief's your favorite. And then we saw that Eagles
money right away, and it hasn't really been a whole
lot of movements since it. Does that surprise you or

(01:11:45):
do you think maybe tonight into tomorrow as the limits
continue to expand, we will start to get a little
more sharper money in this market. That will kind of
move things, or do you think one one and a
half fifty and a half fifty one kind of the
closing numbers here? It has been really steady Eagles money
for two weeks now, and that that surprised me a
little bit. I mean, this is Patrick mahomes is an

(01:12:07):
underdog were talking about here. I guess people are a
little worried about the ankle perhaps, um, but it's I
did think we would see a little bit more cheaps money.
I mean it's been big, huge bets coming in on
the Eagles as well and some of our retail shops. Um.
I think today in tomorrow you should see a lot more.
Is a good amount of big six to seven figure bets.

(01:12:30):
Maybe there are so many prop bets on Rihanna, it's
dizzy ng. I mean, what what color her hair is
gonna be, whether or not she's going to have a tablet,
a computer or a phone as a part as a
prop during her Super Bowl halftime act, whether or not
she's going to expose her butt cheeks, whether or not
she's gonna be bear breasted. At one point, I'm not kidding,

(01:12:52):
like these are actual props. You could go to actual
sports books and bet on. I have to ask you,
like around the Super Bowl these inane halftime show prop bets.
How much money do these books actually make? Are they
just novelty items that are sort of splashy to look
at but not actually bet on or do you guys
make or books in general? Do they make tremendous amounts

(01:13:15):
of money on props like that? So I can't speak
to our my experience booking halftime props because not no
legal regulator I believe at the moment UH is allowing
bets on the halftime show. But I would imagine that
some of these off short places at off from the
limits are pretty low. Um, I'm guessing you're getting like

(01:13:37):
the casual uh, you know, most first time betters looking
at that like they look to go there for the
Super Bowl because they know they have those props. Um.
I'm not sure how much action they probably take. It's
mainly just a thing that goes around social media. Get
the little buzz, gets people on their sites, for sure. UM,
I don't even know if they make money on them.

(01:13:58):
I can't imagine settling some of the mets um. But yeah,
I mean it's they definitely. I mean they go around
every prop sheet. I feel like you go to a
Super Bowl party, they have some sort they have a
bunch of like halftime show related things. So they're definitely popular.
It reminds me like super Bowl betting reminds me of
the old Fleetwood Max song. You can go your own way.

(01:14:20):
There are so many different ways you can go here, Shavis,
I'm just curious what's your general approach for Super Bowl
fifty seven, whether it's side total props, how are you
approaching it? So, I like the Eagles when the Lyne
first open um at it, like when they were a
dog for a brief moment when the line open. Then

(01:14:43):
they went favorite. And the weeks have passed, and if
I'm getting a healthy Patrick Moles, I just keep thinking
about it, I'm starting a lean more towards the Chiefs
right now. Um. I knew everyone's gonna be talking about
the Eagle strength of schedule for a lot of the year.
I didn't really care all that much about I thought
they were just like a really good football tea. The
sudden the schedule came out. But I mean, you look
at mahomes numbers against elite defenses this year, it's the

(01:15:07):
second best season of all time. We're talking about almost
in terms of efficiency. So I'm leaning towards the Chiefs
as we go in there. In terms of props, I
think my favorite props that I've seen is any punt
to go into the end zone for a touchback at
plus one fifty one bounce. But that that's a great

(01:15:29):
example of the type because those bets are not offered
during regular season games or even you know, regular playoff games,
but in the in the in the playoffs, in the
super Bowl, you get these additional menu items and it
probably drives you guys through a tizzy, not only dealing
with people all of a sudden thinking that the gatorade

(01:15:49):
color is a lock. At this stage of the game,
we've seen that market get steamed and we start to
see these other little ancillary props. Everyone has their opinion
on something. It is fascinating. Speaking of the gatorade color, Brian, I,
I know you asked me about this the other day.
I've got to ask Shamus. It's all been yellow green money, right,
and that that's down to the favorite at this point,

(01:16:10):
yellow green money for the gatorade and tails, the same
thing everything. Yeah, and you know, we were talking about
some of these like offshore props, but in general, I mean,
is the psychology around putting so many props on the
super Bowl just to get is it almost like uh,
is it almost like the Gateway bet Like you're trying

(01:16:31):
to get people to the books to bet on like
you mentioned a touchback on a punt um in order
to get them betting some of the the the the sides,
the totals. Maybe getting people who aren't used to betting
on the apps, you know, to the sports book windows
so that later on when it comes to March Madness,

(01:16:52):
there's gonna be a higher level of interest or less
of a barrier to to put your money on some
of the basketball teams that you may be interested in
seeing make their way through the bracket. Definitely, I'd say
it's the American market is so competitive right now, and
the super Bowl is is a huge, huge event to
get first time betters, uh, to get people who don't

(01:17:15):
really bet they haven't they have some of the apps,
but they really only gamble on like the super Bowl
or like, uh, like the finals, big events like that.
So these these markets you create. It's just the way
to get him through the door. See what's on the site,
take a look around and then yeah, you're right. And
about a monch time. We got March Banness, so that's
another event. Everyone, even the was casual better loves to

(01:17:37):
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bet MGM. You guys like to be risky. You like
to take risks in s dand gambling, yea gambling. I
got a couple of risk taking propositions for you. How
about this first quarterline nine and a half risky? Risky

(01:19:09):
either way. We've had some slow starting Super Bowls in
the past here and this could be another one. Um,
you know, I'll know about Tom Brady and right like
zero points in the first quarter consistently. Also, how about
this first score the game? Could be a field goal?
It's hit in five of the last six Super Bowls.

(01:19:31):
But that's the question for me. If the Eagles get
the ball first, they've been so great scoring touchdowns immediately,
where that first quarterline is risky and also the field
goal being the first score is risky as well. What
do you guys think about that? I? You know what, Yeah,
those are risky props. I think I lean more towards
the under in the total for the first quarter rather

(01:19:53):
than the field goal being the first score. And the
only reason being is because, like you mentioned, the Phildelphia
Eagles are really good attacking defensive weaknesses and the Kansa
City Chiefs are almost automatic in the red zone. So
I kind of feel like the field goal prop goes
out the window with that yeah under first quarter, but
I would buy it up the ten and a half.

(01:20:14):
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s R to listen live. Oh what's going on everybody?
Hope you're enjoying your Saturday morning as we inch closer
and closer two Super Bowl Sunday over here. Can't wait
for Super Bowl fifties seven. The question on my mind,
one of them is what will the conversation be like
if Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes lose another Super Bowl?

(01:21:01):
Another one? As DJ Khalid says, I think this is
a perspective game because it shifts dramatically. If Andy Reid
and Mahomes win a super Bowl, that puts them in
elite company. Mahomes, there are not many two time m
vps of the regular season and two time Super Bowl champions.

(01:21:22):
He'd already be on a very, very elite list. You
look at Andy Reid, getting his second Super Bowl win
puts him in much more elite company. If Andy Reid
loses this game and he drops to one in three
in the Super Bowl, you start looking at him a
lot differently. You start looking at what he didn't accomplish
instead of what he did. And especially if he loses

(01:21:45):
against the Eagles, a team that he took to one
Super Bowl and lost it, never won a big game
over there. If he loses to that team specifically, I
think it hurts even more and you're gonna start hearing
from some the over rated line that's to me, the
huge gap. And it all depends on how exactly it

(01:22:08):
goes down. You know, is this a close game, is
this a final field goal by the Eagles to win
it in traumatic fashion? You won't have as many, you know,
angry comments. But if they drop again without knowing exactly
how it goes down. Yeah, dramatic shift between winning and losing.
How both of those guys will be perceived big Red

(01:22:29):
in particular Andy Reid, I think I uh, I only
disagree from this standpoint. I think the outcomes will be
the same in terms of I think he'll still be
a Hall of Fame coach one day. I think that overall,
whenever he does lay down the sword for good and retire,
UH to just feast on cheeseburgers whenever he wants, not

(01:22:50):
just after big wins. Um. I think, I think, uh.
I think the narrative on Andy Reid was one he
was one of the the greatest offensive minds this game
has ever met. I really do. I think the legacy
that he leaves on football is one of uh evergreen inventiveness.
I've never seen anybody who at his age, Because we

(01:23:13):
gotta factor that in. There's a lot of coaches who
get stale. There's a lot of coaches who just can't
keep up with the times. There's a lot of coaches who,
you know what, they say, Hey, look we've had success
doing it this way in the past. We're gonna stick
to the formula. He hasn't. He hasn't. He's amended things.
He's welcomed in different types of talent at really important

(01:23:35):
and crucial positions and found way to highlight those talents.
So I don't think. I don't think overall it will
have a grand effect on his legacy. However, in the
short run, talking heads pundits like us, we'll we'll talk
about Andy Reid and the homes and the success rate
that they've had together, because it's a narrative and it's

(01:23:56):
something that people will sort of chew on and and
we'll be interested in hearing others opinions about. But I'll
give you my opinion. It'll be this opinion now, It'll
be this opinion after this game is over, regardless of
the outcome, and regardless how this game looks and plays.
Patrick Mahomes is the most talented quarterback I've ever seen

(01:24:17):
play this game. I mean, I don't care. I don't
care if he's only done it for five years starting
this league. I've never seen anything like this. And Andy
Reid will go down as one of the most inventive
brains that's ever graced the coaching ranks in football history.
And and I know those two opinions will not change
based on the results of of one game. Yeah, I

(01:24:39):
totally agree with that. Um, He's played in eight games
in his career. UM, And that this is it goes
back to gambling. You know, you make a hundred bets
throughout the course of the year. The last bet that
you make is a disaster at the loss. Yeah, that's
what you'll remember for the next few months until you

(01:25:00):
make your next football bet. But it shouldn't take away
from the other bets that you made throughout the course
of the regular season, because the sample size in gambling
in sports is everything in life, it's everything. You have
one bad day, Does that mean you're had a bad
life and you're a bad person. Uh No, it just

(01:25:21):
is a bad day. And I think it goes back
to the discussion that we had about on any given day,
Jalen Hurts could outduel Patrick Mahomes. Of course, on any
given roll of the dice, anything could happen. Does that
take away from the whole of what Mahomes have been
able to accomplish? Absolutely not. Andy Reid's on the back nine.
I mean I I don't think there's really anything at
this point, Um that can take away from Andy Reid's career.

(01:25:44):
I mean, he's done it what for two decades now, um,
and if you want to go back to his assistant
coaching career and all the other stuff that led up
to the Eagles, you know, the success in the early
two thousands with McNabb and all that and and and
then of course later on with the Chiefs. But this
is very much a legacy game for Patrick Mahomes. I
do agree with that. Whereas if he wins this game,
will become one of now thirteen quarterbacks. There's twelve currently

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that have won multiple Super Bowls. It's a short list,
and we haven't had an m v P. And let's
be honest, if the Chiefs win this game, Patrick Holmes
could be the m v P. I mean, I can't
fathom a scenario where that doesn't take place unless there's
like three pick sixes or some just absurd situation. But
the Mahomes m VP regular season, Mahomes MVP super Bowl

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that hasn't happened in like twenty years. It was Kurt
Warner the last duel m VP regular season in Super Bowl.
So again, this is very much a legacy game in
year five for Mahomes. Frandy Reid, I I really don't
think winning this or losing this will change anyone's opinion
on him. For Mahomes, I do think graduating to that
level where now you are a two time multiple super

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Bowl winner, I do think, as hard as it is,
raises his profile even more. I could not be in
more firm disagreement when with you guys than I am.
You guys are acting like this is week five or
something like. It doesn't change my opinion either way. This
is the freaking super Bowl, like because the Chiefs are

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gonna win anyway. So no, but look at this, Look
look at look at how dramatically our opinions have swung
with multiple players. Eli Manning is gonna be a Hall
of Famer, like we can argue against. He shouldn't mean
he's going to get in, and it's because of the
super Bowl and he's got two rings. Look at the

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conversation where he raised his game in the super Bowl
where you're fine, but from the point is the super
Bowl matters huge? Of course, Look a look at Mahomes.
Great example, we were dogging Mahomes for the first three
quarters because he was getting out played by Jimmy Garoppolo.
If he doesn't finish the deal there, imagine what we're

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saying about the guy now, Jimmy Gary blows a good
If he came through in the super Bowl, imagine how
the rest of his career would play out to this
point right now. Imagine how this offseason would play out
if he hit Emmanuel Sanders and he's a super Bowl champion.
So this idea of Andy Reid, I think there's a
massive difference. Yeah, he's still gonna be a Hall of Famer,

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he's still gonna be one of the most inventive offensive
minds ever. Win or lose, That part is true. But
this idea of if he wins or loses, my opinion
doesn't change a whole lot. What what my opinion changes massively?
I think if he loses this one, he's the most
overrated coach in the history of the NFL. If he
loses this game the most. He's an underdog. Ever, you're

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an underdog, care great. If you are what everybody makes
you out to be, great, offensive mind, really imaginative, all
those things are true. You gotta win more than one
super Bowl. Your next door to Mike McCarthy, who's waxing
poetic about Mike McCarthy. All I hear are glowing things
about Andy Reid. You better step up and show that

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you're worth all of that by winning this game. If
he loses. I think this is a lot like Peton
two different teams to the Super Bowl. Though, I think
this is a lot like Peyton Manning. If I can
finish one thought, Um, I think we look at Peyton
Manning and say, well, he's the best in the regular season.
That's a backhanded diss. The reason we're saying that is

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because he wet himself numerous times in the playoffs. And
if Big Red ends up with only one Super Bowl win. Yeah,
when we're just waxing poetic and going off about the
guy in a positive way, you gotta have more than
one ring to bring to the table. I'm sorry, I
disagree vehemently. I think that Handy Reid is one of

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those one of those guys, one of those characters that
you can't write the history of the end NFL without,
you know, and uh And as a result, due to
that impact, I don't know how you could possibly over
rate them, you know what I mean? Like that he
has been intertwined into the storylines throughout the past thirty

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years of NFL history, going back to his days on
Homegrin Staff. I mean this, this is just the story
of his coaching career. He success has followed Andy Reid
wherever he's been and that's both in the regular season
and the postseason, and that's been proven true. Now, had
you pose this argument before he won a Super Bowl
with Patrick Mahomes, I would have agreed with you to

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a certain extent. But we can't pretend that history doesn't exist,
and so we're operating in a completely different space than
we were. You know again, I guess you know. I mean, obviously,
you know, a meteor could hit the earth, you know,
I we some some anything, anything can happen that would

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change your outlook on anything forever in an instant. But
the most likely outcome of this Super Bowl is, even
if the Chiefs lose, even if it's Patrick mahomess fault,
it's not going to be a complete and utter meltdown
because there's also safeguards that you put in place to
prevent that from happening. You know, even if even if

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the Chiefs lose this game and it's Andy Reid's poor game, plan.
I don't see the Eagles absolutely mopping them for four quarters.
I I assume they'll be able to put up some points,
some sort of a fight outside of you know, horrific
levels of injuries that the forty niners were faced with.
It's it's you know what I mean, Like, so I

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think we're we're arguing in a we're arguing a hypothetical
that I I almost find unreasonable. It's just it's the
outcomes are gonna be closer than all of that. And
and so to assume that not only will the Chiefs lose,
but they'll lose so ugly that it's going to change

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our perception and Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid forever based
on one game, one appearance. I just have a hard
time with that. I I mean, the the it's not
a baseless argument. I assume anything could happen, but it's
it's it's just the realities of those outcomes are so
slim to none that it's almost not worth wasting the

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breath to argue with. He's coached in over four hundred
twenty three games and won one Super Bowl, But I
don't understand how one game can change your opinion and again,
their their face, they're they're not even favored in the game.
They're not even supposed to have dogs. It's there, but
they're not. But again, how could we take what he's

(01:32:43):
done over the course of twenty five and thirty years
and he's wearing down a one game because he's got
one ring. That's why I don't understand how you could
take I I just it makes absolutely no sense of
I'll say this, and I mean and and I I
have this debate with a lot of people about a
lot of different players. People don't respect the journey. People.

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And I'm not saying you because you've been You've been
watching football for a long time. You've been doing this.
You follow the sport as close as anyone I know,
so I know this isn't the case with you. But
the like getting there, the getting there is really difficult
to so the amount of appearances in the playoffs, I mean,
I I tabulate that like that matters to me. You know,

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greatness sometimes falls short of the ultimate accomplishments from a
team wide standpoint, but where we I I will never
just place the blame solely on one player. Now, there's
no question a coach a great coach, a great player
like a Patrick Mahomes, especially at a quarterback position, or
any great coach or quarterback, you can certainly elevate a roster.

(01:33:48):
And we've seen what bad coaches and bad quarterbacks can
do to a good roster. That happens often also um
But the path, the journey to get to championship games,
to win playoff games, to to fight and and to succeed,
even if it's at a lower level than ultimately winning
a Super Bowl, I still think it matters. I know

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there's a lot of people who don't, who don't believe that,
and they they say, hey, listen, show me the rings
are nothing else matters. But for me, like part of
the story of Tom Brady isn't the fact that he's
won seven Super Bowls. It's also how many overall he's
played in. Nearly fifty percent of his career ended up

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in that game. So the losses to me are just
as impressive as the wins to a certain degree, because
I'm not going to adjudicate a man's career just on
how he performed in one quarter of one game or
one game ultimately to decide whether or not he was
a great or you know coached in that one game.

(01:34:50):
I hear you on all of that. The journey is
the NFL is hard. It's hard to win consistently, especially
at the biggest height, which is winning a super Bowl.
But it's just funny how that card is played with
certain coaches and not others. You know, are we saying that,
Look look at Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick has what six

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super Bowl rings as a head coach, and if he
loses a playoff game with Tom Brady, remember they lost
at home to the Titans. That was the last playoff
game for them when they were on the same franchise.
There it was Tom Brady throwing a pick six when
it was essentially like a goofy sort of like razzle dazzle,
Hail Mary type situation, and it was Belichick losing a

(01:35:34):
playoff game. It's like, we expect excellence from Brady and
we expect excellence from Bill Belichick. It's revealing when we
don't expect excellence from Andy Reid. That's my point for
all these credentials. And it's like, this is baffling that
crazy pants no is even bringing this up where blah
blah blah blah blah. It's like, we don't expect excellence

(01:35:58):
from the guy. That is revealing. When you are elite,
we expect you to win this game. Are you saying
that with Andy Reid? You expect him to win this game?
And the answer is no, you don't. Like that's the
truth of it, because you would be dogging this guy
if he doesn't get it done and it turns into well,
but he had those fancy place where they pirouetted one

(01:36:21):
time and that was kind of cool. Or what it's like, bro,
if you expect excellence and don't get it, we go
freaking ballistic. That's what we did with Belichick. That's what
we did with Tom Brady. We didn't do that with
Mike Tomlin or Sean Payton or Mike McCarthy. Those guys
are good coaches and they had success by winning one
Super Bowl. But with Andy Reid, we we treat him

(01:36:41):
like he's our buddy. He's like, it's kind of level.
Boy likes cheeseburgers and I like to how about those chiefs.
We like him, but we don't expect excellence from the guy,
and we don't hold his feet to the fire when
we don't get it. Well, here's what I'll say this,
and this is a really unpopular opinion, but Mike McCarthy
is a Hall of Famer. Like Mike McCarthy is, That's

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what they look like. That's what a Hall of Fame
coach looks like. And a lot of people will say, well,
he's a terrible game manager, rich and well what about
what about the fact that he couldn't get it done
with Aaron Rodgers outside of one time one arguably one
of the most talented quarterbacks ever graced the planet Earth. Ever,
he only got one Super Bowl title out of Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,
but look at me. He's replicated success with a brand

(01:37:25):
new team. Now. I mean, this guy has brought the
Dallas Cowboys to the postseason twice since joining this new
franchise as a head coach. There is something about what
Mike McCarthy does that reminds me a lot of Andy Reid.
Because Andy Reid, if you remember, prior to Patrick Mahomes,
the big knock on Andy was in big games or

(01:37:45):
in moments where it came down to his decision making
with timeouts or play calling or clock management. That's where
he failed. I think he started fixing that when Alex
Smith was his quarterback in Kansas City. He got better
at it than it's been better now with Mahomes than
it's ever been in his entire career. But I see
them as pretty similar guys. But both to me are

(01:38:07):
Hall of famers once more likable. So it's an easier
argument to be like, how about them, Juice, Like you said,
like people like Andy Reid, people do not for whatever reason,
like Mike McCarthy. They don't like the vibe, they don't
like the press conferences. He's not as relatable as Andy Reid.
But we're talking about splitting hairs. We're talking about some

(01:38:28):
of the best to have ever done it ever, And
so when we're talking about that, it's hard for me
to use the word overrated because Andy Reid, you can
make the argument and you wouldn't have a hard time
is a top ten all time coach. So I I
just I can't. I can't describe a top ten all

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time coach is overrated? I can, I can't. I'll do
it for you, you know, it's just like, what what
do you say overrated? Like a lot of people miss
this message. I'll make a very quick point. A lot
of people misinterpret this when I'm saying overrated. I don't
mean like can't coach at all, like no success whatso,

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I it's the the mainstream opinion. What's the mainstream opinion,
it's glowingly positive. Is the reality does it match the perception?
And if the reality doesn't match that perception, then you're overrated.
And that's what will be this game. Perception is reality,
you know what I'm saying, Like, to a certain extent,

(01:39:34):
what you see is what you get. And so I mean,
don't get me wrong. Beauty is in the eye of
the beholder, and you may see it differently than the
rest of the planet. And that's fine. That's I've been
on no Island before. It's I'm comfortable here. But that's fine,
you know. I mean, it's just it's such a unique

(01:39:54):
take from the standpoint of I yeah, but I I
can com I hear your argument, and I know where
you're coming from, but it is uh yeah, I mean,
it's uh, I just I can't I can't get there.
That's fine. We got rich or State all American Jared

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MGM app. So, fellas, the dogs have been barking big
time on the Kansas City side. While Patrick Mahomes been
the quarterback the last five years, the Chiefs as an
underdog seven one and one against the spread. They've been

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very good as an underdog against the spread. The two
times that it hasn't worked out, you know, a cover
for them is it was Week six this season against
the Bills, remember that, that home loss against Josh Allen company. Um,
they were underdogs at home and they didn't cover the spread.
And it was that crazy game inen the fifty four

(01:42:10):
to fifty one game to shootout against Jared Goff in
the Rams. That was a push. So those are the
only two times in nine situations. Amazing. They've only been
underdogs nine times in five years as Mahomes being the quarterback.
But in those nine times they are seven one and
one against the spread. That's incredible, that's I mean, which

(01:42:31):
goes to show you, first of all, betting against the
Chiefs probably not the best idea in general, but um yeah,
I think there are certain coaches that use the spread
to motivate their teams, and I guarantee you Andy Reid's
one of them, and a lot of the coach great
coaches that I've played for, they do that when the

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public sentiment or the Vegas sentiment is against you. They'll
bring it up multiple times throughout the week or two
weeks in this case that you have leading into a game,
and so yeah, that is uh, that is a great motivator,
the fact that the world's the world's betting against you,
so to speak. And I've felt that psychology work on

(01:43:13):
me many times as a player. I think this is
the first time in the playoffs he's ever been an underdog.
I think Mahomes I might be wrong about that, um,
but this is just this is one of those moments
where yeah, you have to kind of you have to
kind of grit your teeth and say, well, he's that.

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That's the biggest part of this game that I struggle
with from a handicapping perspective, because the Eagles have the
better team. There's there's no debate on that. And you
can do that when your quarterback is making I think
four million dollars this year. You could sign a lot
of players that are very good and you could fill
a lot of holes on your roster when your quarterback
is not making the kind of money that Patrick Mahomes is.
So there there's zero debate that that the Chiefs um

(01:43:58):
in terms of their roster one through fifty three, your
inferior to the Eagles. But I'm just I keep flash forwarding,
you know that, So every time I go there, in
my mind, I'm like, Oh, let's bet the Eagles for
the game. But then I I flash forward to Monday,
and I think to myself, how upset with myself will
I be if the Chiefs win this game and I'm

(01:44:19):
sitting there on Monday saying, you could have bet Patrick
Mahomes and the Super Bowl as an underdog, like this
might be the only chance we ever get to bet
this quarterback who. I know that there's been debate in
this show, but I think there's no debate that he's
that he's the best quarterback on the planet. Um, and
he's the best player in the NFL. How could I
not take points or take him in an underdog price

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considering how important that position is to the to the
success of your team. As good as the Eagles are
one through fifty three, the one at the top of
Kansas Cities list matters a lot more and it's weighted
a lot more. So. Yeah, I think the underdog nature
of this game only makes it more appeasing for me
to to to look to Mahomes and I I will

(01:45:05):
not be able. I will be able to live with
myself on Monday if I passed up the Eagles at
the price that they're currently offered at. If I pass
on the Chiefs and they win this game, I might
have to retire my my gambling card because I just
I won't be able to live with myself on Monday,
knowing that I could have been on Patrick Mahomes is
an underdog, I didn't and they ended up winning. I
think I have to set the record straight. I don't

(01:45:27):
know if there's some your wax over there, Jared Smith
or what's going on, but with Mahomes up, he is,
let me be very clear, he is the best quarterback
in the NFL. If it's uh, if Mahomes is down
by ten versus Jalen Hurts being down by ten, yeah,
I would expect more and I would bet more on
Mahomes coming through sooner than Jalen Hurts. Let's establish that

(01:45:48):
very very clearly. But the point I would make is
when you're going up against the number one pass defense
like Mahomes, if Jalen Hurts is in a situation where
he's got a score and he's going up against the
the chief suspect past defense. Yeah, I think it makes
it closer than most would say, but I would still
expect more from Mahomes. So, uh, that's my official position

(01:46:11):
as far as that goes. But my official position is
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(01:47:42):
into this plays. Yes, we love the prop bets over
here for sure. Let me start with one here and
you guys can go in any direction you want. Major
line move it. I never thought I would say this
major line movement in the color of the gatorade bath

(01:48:06):
over here. I don't I don't know what someone knows
and he's been sharing it with the general public here,
but yellow slash green pull vaults to the top of
the list. It was at plus three fifty, it's down
to plus one fifty, so it was like a three
and a half to one dog. Now it's a one

(01:48:27):
and a half to one dog, and there you go.
Yellow Green, for some reason, is a trendy bet right
now in the Gatorade bath market. I like it. I
like it a lot. I have three player props that
I have fallen in love with, and I'm really curious here,
guys take on these. So Miles Sanders one and a

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half receptions is the total. I think the Philadelphi Eagles
are gonna have to slow down the pass rush at times,
and I think they're gonna do it with the screen
game and get Miles Sanders, who's not often used as
a passing threat involved that way. So I'm gonna give
Miles Sanders the over on the one and a half
Harrison Bucker, I think Philadelphia is gonna make some stops. Uh.

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One and a half is the total on field goals made.
I'm going over on that player prop as well, and
another over Hassan Reddick three and a half total tackles.
I'm taking the over there as well, and the reason
being he's averaged four tackles in these games so far
through the postseason, and he's a problem off the edge

(01:49:30):
getting to the backfield. I think the chief strategy is
gonna be mostly to throw it. I'm assuming this is
gonna be a close game, so I look at I
look at that tackle total as being um not not
an overwhelming win, but it feels like a good bet
three and a half. I'll take it over there as well.
He has ready to have some funt with these Oh yeah,

(01:49:51):
not a lot of sharp insight here. This is just
sprinkles and things that I want to see happen in
the game, things that I think we'll see that we'll
see in the game. The aime tied after zero zero.
I bet this every year always. Yes, I love this prop.
I could be three, three, could be seven or seven.
Boom game over prop prop done you win two point

(01:50:11):
conversion attempt. Yes, it's minus one fifteen. Both of these
coaches pretty aggressive, and again the way that the games
have played out, they don't have to get its attempt one.
If you want to bet the conversion success, it's like
plus two fifty or something like that. I would bet
that too, but just for the attempt I think is
a good bet. It's basically minus one tent on both sides.

(01:50:33):
I got minus one fifteen. By the way, players, I
was gonna say real fast though I like to pick.
Doesn't it show how much the NFL has changed that
that's minus money. That's crazy. It is this one. I
really love Chiefs players with a rush attempt over four
and a half. Let's count it out. McKinnon, Pacheco, Mahomes definite.

(01:50:55):
Then the other guys. You've got sky Moore, Ca, Darius,
Tony and maybe Travis Kell. See they like to run
that where the tight end takes the snap under center.
That's six right there, and I see a lot of
jet sweeps and Tony and sky Moore having an impact
in the running game. So Chiefs players over four and
a half with a rush attempt really like that. Finally,
these are fun. Total penalties over ten and a half.

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Cheffers has the most penalties called in the league this year,
got about that and total first downs in the game
over forty two and a half. I really like this
one because I do think both offenses are going to
have success, and unlike prior games where the Eagles were
basically in neutral in the second half, they're they're going
to have to move the ball and they're gonna have
to be aggressive in the second half. So total first

(01:51:37):
downs in the game over two and a half. Yeah,
that's one of those props where you're like, whoa, that
is just a daunting number until they started picking up
first downs left seven on one drive. Yeah, yeah you can.
And I think that it's gonna be a lot of
think and dunk from the chief. I think it can
be a lot of quick passes, yeah, might hit. I

(01:51:59):
like all of those. The one that I struggle with
and I appreciated you building in the fact that it
would be direct snaps to Travis Kelsey and almost like
a planned QB rush for him to get credited is
because a lot of times when they do those Jets
sweeps in those uh those fast hitting plays with receivers
carrying the football, they look like rushes there but their

(01:52:19):
shovel pass. Yeah, yeah, you're right. So yeah, that's the
only one where I was like, yeah, yeah, that would
be unfortunate if we got hosed on that. Imagine And
thank you for just implanting that thought in my brain.
I'm sorry, but literally I loved all that. It's a
good point. It is. Yeah. Yeah, but they they'll they'll,

(01:52:41):
you know, it'll be direct snap to Mahomes and then
he does that quick two handed like it almost looks
like a point a point guard. Just a quick two
hand passed two. You know could Aias flying across his
face and accounts as a forward pass. Crazy, absolutely crazy,
the prompt beat I love the most. You ready for this?
I just saw it on bet MGM. First half field

(01:53:03):
goals for the Chiefs. I love the over just point five, like,
give me one. That's it. Think about this because the
Eagles they're gonna be fresh, their front four is fresh
at the beginning of the game. You're telling me you
don't see Butker kicking one field goal in the first half.

(01:53:23):
I see it. It's a minus one. Yeah, lay a
little bit more. But I love that. That's one of
those bets where if it doesn't hit, I'm just like
I even met it didn't hit. I feel so strongly
that it will hit. I don't mind losing if it
doesn't hit. That to me is a good bet. That's fair.
Don't gonna give a couple more random ones. A couple
of players like Nick Bolton over ten and a half

(01:53:46):
tackles and assists. If the Eagles run, run the heck
out of the ball. That's the guy in the middle
that gets all the tackles for the Chiefs. Hassan Reddick
not to have a sack at plus money, I think
that's being over baked into the market that he's definitely
going to get a sack. I think the Chiefs are
gonna check up and they're gonna make his life a
lot more difficult. And the one that a very sharp
group here in town gave out this week that I

(01:54:06):
respect a lot. You have to pay for it, but
I think it's a good bet. Quiz Watkins under one
and a half receptions. He has not been part of
his offense in recent weeks, and I think the fact
that it's gonna be a close game is gonna take
him out of it. He's also the deep threat and
Jalen Hurts kind of struggled to push the ball down
the field lately. So uh, Watkins under one and a
half receptions. And another one that's gotten a lot of

(01:54:27):
love in the market this week. I'll give you one
that you might not even bet on this one, but
I find it fascinating just to watch. Is Mahomes first
Russia attempt? Is it gonna be over or under three
and a half yards and you start thinking about that,
and it's like, well, he's not one you take that
into account. But he doesn't sneak it, right, They don't

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do that with him. And if he's got to scramble
a little bit, I think after these two weeks he's
gonna be healthy enough where I can see him rushing
for four plus yards attempt. His rushing at Hamps Prop
I think is a good bet to the over as well,
especially if knees at the end of the game come
into account. Yeah, oh gosh, can you imagine if that's

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the way you get there. I've gotten there before with
other guys. It's great. I got there with a Josh
Allen one a few weeks ago, with with with with knees.
I keep looking at this rushing yardage total for Jael
and Hurts, just to sneak one last one in fifty
and a half feels high. If you think about what
Spags is probably telling this defensive unit, like shut down

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the run. If I'm if I'm, if I'm the Chiefs.
The whole goal defensively is we are going to commit
to making jail and Hurts beat us with his arm,
and if we lose, fine, we'll all be able to
at least sleep at night knowing that we we came
in with the right attitude. So I would take the
under fifty and a half feels high for Jail and

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hurts to hit in terms of rush yards game. I'll
give you a super brief story because we had Shamus
McGee from bet MGM on the show as we do
every Saturday, and he said he's got his eye on
will there be a punt that results of yeah. He's
He's like, I just need one bounce, one bounce. But

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remember Thomas Morristead, he was a punter for the Saints
when they were really really good, and various other teams.
But I interviewed Thomas Morris at one time and I
was like, how difficult is it to not kick the
ball in the end zone? And he just goes to me,
he goes, it isn't really, I see it happen all
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over here, Jared, what do you like for Super Bowl Sunday?
Dallas Goddard over fourty and a half receiving yards, Chiefs
thirty one and d v O A against passes short
the intermediate middle. About god, its yards come from that

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area on the season. The Chiefs are gonna have more
sacks in this game. Patrick Mahomes, the best quarterback in
the NFL at avoiding the sack. Take it with the Chiefs.
I'm telling you, Jalen Hurts might be a little balky
early in the pocket. And of course, if I think
the Chiefs are gonna win the game, Patrick Mahomes go
when the m v P. It's basically a Chiefs money
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a half. I think that anytime you're betting the chief
says an underdog, as we proved out there seven one
and one against the spread as dogs, it's a smart bet.
Super Bowl total, I'm going under fifty and a half.
I think that this is gonna be a close game.
I think we're gonna see more scoring in the second half. However,
I do feel that Jalen Hurts any time first half

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touchdown is great value, so bet that. Okay, I'll go
quick first half field goals for the Chiefs they get
at least one over half minus one. Give me the
Eagles minus a point and a half. Jalen Hurts on
his rookie contract plus reminds me a Super Bowl forty
eight where Seattle was just better than Denver. The Eagles
are just a better team, Hurts. Take his over passing

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yards to thirty eight and a half. You've got the
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