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This is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, a mental health podcast
helping you out of the gray and into the blue.
Now here's Jay Glazer. Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental health
podcast with Jay Glazer. I am your host, Jay Glazer,
and the person I have on right now is somebody
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who actually changed my life, and she changed my life
in a way that I wasn't expecting. She is a nutritionist.
She's the nutritionist for Unbreakable. Denise Alve Welcome in, Denise. Hello,
thanks for having me and the reason why I wanted
Denisan Today you're saying nutrition, huh, Well, your gut is
your second brain. So I didn't know how much what
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I was consuming, what I was eating was affecting what
goes on between my ears. So I wanted to come on.
She has so much wisdom and knowledge to give us
about what we eat and the inflammation that it causes,
the anti inflammation that certain foods can actually help you with,
could affect our brains and con affect our mental health.
And so she has something for everybody for you know,
people who can afford price, people who can't afford her price.
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So but I want to get into my journey. Okay,
which blew my mind. And I did a blood test,
which is not a food allergy test, right, it's a
food sensitivity test to determine what is affecting what's causing
me inflammation? Right? And folks, I was blown away the
things that were not just affecting me, but these were
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like killing me. Right. Were I'll tell you what for
me it was bad for me? Was spinach, green apples, lemon. Wait,
there's something else in there that would blow your mind. Spinach,
green apples, lemon, ginger, No, soy peanuts was was in there? Carrots? Right?
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These were killing me. They were causing me all sorts
of inflammation. And it was also turned out they were
causing me to have plaques, arriasis, sorrisis across my chest.
It's coming on my head. I was taking an inject
Doble and a pill to slow my psoriasis. Denise found
out by this blood test what was causing me all
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its inflammation, and within thirty days my psoriasis is completely gone.
My body fat was choop like I just the size
of my head shrank noticeably. And you think that if
I told you I was going to go on a
cleanse and just have green apples, spinach, carrots, and lemon.
You think I be the healthiest guy in the world.
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Instead it was killing me. So to these chime in here. Yes,
So when it comes to food sensitivities, there can be
a delay in a response. So you might be eating
foods and feeling fine right now, but you might experience
symptoms a couple of hours from now or a couple
of days. So for you, if you're eating something like
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apples and not I do great with apples, but you
might actually be releasing what are called chemical mediators towards apples.
Just to break it down, because your body is protecting you,
it's an immune response that is pro inflammatory, which then
over time causes symptoms. So that could be something that
was causing the plaque, psoriasis, or even it could be
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bloating or headaches. In so many different ways that you
wouldn't connect to food. When you first got me on
and I was and I've done it twice now because
I did with you, and then when I went to Thailand,
I had to do it again. And but when I
did it, I remember I was I was hosting Bella
to R M M A and the producers came out
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and said, we don't know what you're doing, which the
clearest you've ever sounded. Yeah, it definitely can help brain fog,
focus energy. It's fascinating. I felt like it was also
making my vocal cords inflamed, yeah, inflammation, and getting me
to slur. And I used to think I slurred a
lot from getting hit the head so much, and it
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turned out it was more from this than getting my
you know, my head beat in for all those years.
So you know, again, give us and this is just
for me, folks. It doesn't mean that green apples are
bad with your, spinach is bad with you. And there
are things that, by the way, like lamb was great
for me, right, there are things that were like you'd
be like, what, how could this be red meat? Oh
my gosh, no, And I know you try to get
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me off red meat. She also makes you when you
do it, you can't drink for that month, no bread whatsoever, right,
no deal whatsoever. So why is that? What are you
trying to do to my my whole system? So what
we did is we tested a hundred and seventy different foods, chemicals,
and flavor enhancers. So it could be anything from caffeine
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main foods such as you know, it could be chicken, salmon,
and flavor enhancers all the way down to the nitty
gritty of black pepper, garlic, rosemary, these things that you
wouldn't think would cause an immune response, but they can.
So once we looked at that full profile of all
the hundred and seventy items we tested, we get a
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report back that lets us know if you had an
immune response to any of them, and that immune response
is pro inflammatory, and then that's where symptoms over time
start to build up. Now, out of the hundred and
seventy foods that we tested, we took all the foods
that you had no immune response to, and you only
ate those for the first couple of weeks almost a month,
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so we could calm down that inflammation start healing your system.
And then during that time we also keep out all
the untested items because there's over forty thousand ingredients in
a grocery store, so obviously we can't test all of those,
so you're having only the low you know, non responsive foods,
no untested items, no alcohol, which is inflammatory, so we
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have full control to calm down your system. Now when
it comes to dairy, even individuals that may not come
back sensitive to cow's milk or yogurt or any dairy products.
We still keep it out at the beginning because a
lot of how is our grass fed but grain finished
and in the grain could be corn, could be wheat,
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and other foods that you are sensitive to. So we
get it down to that small detail. So we do
have full controlled common inflammation that is food induced. How
did you get involved in this in the first place. Well,
I've I've been a dietitian now for almost eighteen years,
and I specialize in two areas. I am a certified
specialist in sports dietetics, so I work with professional athletes,
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and I'm also a certified lifestyle, eating and performance therapist
working with food sensitivities. Now, when I worked with athletes
for fourteen years, some of these individuals have a great team.
They have a personal chef, they have a dietitian, they
have coaches, performance specialists, and I would notice that their
performance and their recovery wasn't where it should be. So
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I noticed, you know, if you're eating quote unquote perfectly
and you have all these great team members helping you,
and if you're not getting the results that you really
should be. There was a piece that was missing, So
that's when I went back and started researching food sensitivities
to find that missing piece. Talk about your brain, yes,
it absolutely does. Um there's also what's called a gut
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brain access and that's a two way communication. So if
we have inflammation and it's food induced. To any inflammation,
really it can interrupt and cause disturbances between cell communication,
nerve communication, and systems. All the communication gets out of
whack and the brain might not be able to produce neurotransmitters,
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which are serotonin, dopamine GABA. Those are your feel good,
your your mood enhancing neurotransmitters. So if the inflammation is
not allowing our brain to produce those neurotransmitters, it can
affect our mood. But also if inflammation is present, it
can break down the bacterial floor. Are the good bacteria
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in our gut, and that bacteria does produce serotonin itself
up to the serotonin in your body is produced in
your gut, and also that bacteria metabolizes it and directs
a certain amount to the brain. So if you don't
have good amounts of healthy bacteria from inflammation being present,
it can affect the amount of neurotransmitters that are released
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for people who don't have to, you know, use your
your services, give us a you know a lot of
things that can help us from gods that can just
help the normal person absolutely. So first of all, cleaning
up the diet the best that we can. So we
may not know the triggering pro inflammatory foods, but we
want to make sure that we're increasing fiber through good
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whole grains, fruits, vegetables. We also want to make sure
that we are decreasing sugars, decreasing unhealthy fats, and there
are some supplements that can help with healing the intestinal
track and also boosting different neural transmitters. So we could
bring in some probiotics the healthy bacteria. The fiber feeds
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those so that keeps them very healthy and producing what
we need them to produce. And also we want to
make sure that if we're experiencing a lot of GI distress, bloating, cramping,
you know, any of those GI symptoms. We also want
to make sure that we are hydrating that some supplements
such as L glutamine that might help with the healing
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of the intestinal track. Bringing some of those items in
and It really depends on each person. I always make
sure that there's no family history or any allergies that
we would have to make sure to alter the protocol
for the supplements. Where where does my good health affect
my depression the most? Um Well, if you are eating
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foods that are inflammatory, so ones that we find out
through the testing, or if we don't through the testing,
we look at anti inflammatory foods and boosting those, so
it's gonna fluence your depression. If you're not eating well,
then we're not able to have our systems functioning well.
So your central nervous system isn't working well either, so
that gut brain connection. Individuals with depression, it is very
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common that your brain might communicate to your gut that
you're not hungry. You might lose your appetite others, so
you're losing nutrients that also fuel the brain. Now, individuals
with anxiety, your brain might trigger the intestinal track to
stimulate diarrhea because it just makes you feel angst and
it can cause diarrhea. Now, again, calming down inflammation by
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eating good foods, hydrating, exercising, even good breathing techniques, it
can boost all of this so that your mood can
can go up. Is there any food because I'm talking
about foods that seem like they're be great for people
that cause me inflammation? Are there any foods that are
universally great for all of us? Yes? I mean there
are a lot of foods such as avocado, eggs, salmon, pineapple,
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whole pumpkin seeds, Sesamese seeds. They have a good amount
of L tyresin, which is actually an amino acid that
can boost neurotransmitters. Okay, what about the supplements that all
of us supplements? Yeah, probiotics. Um, you have me on
like a gut health regimen, yeah, and which would help
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me a lot because that you also, we found out
that I had leaky gut. Yeah, leaky gut syndrome. Right, Yes,
leaky gut is a lot of things can influence leaky gut.
It's not a scientific term. It's more of a nickname
for when you're intestinal lining becomes uh horace, so things
can slip through into the blood and that triggers an
immune response as well. So when it comes to leaky gut,
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individuals can can have that due to genetics, can be
due to a lot of antibiotic use as a child.
Let's say chronic air infections are struck throat um. It
also can be influenced by the foods that we eat
and food that might be causing a pro inflammatory response.
So what happens is partially digested food slips into the
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blood stream and you have an immune response. Food should
be fully digested all the way down to the small intestine,
absorbed into the bloodstream and then we have nutrients for
energy that will fuel your brain. Now for leaky gut,
we have to definitely clean up our diet and some
supplements that we gave you, um L glue tomine, We
gave you vitamin D, probiotics, fish oils, and yours. We
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look specifically I revived. Yeah, so that had that had
multiple components in there that were the L glue tomine,
especially that we're helping heal your gut, so that we
didn't have things slipping through causing another immune response that's
pro inflammatory. And when you first told me, I had
it with the leaky gut and there's something else you
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guys called it what was the other thing? Candida? Right,
So with both of them, you're you and our friend
Ja who helps me with my brain, helpful at all.
So I was like, Hey, this is what's causing a
lot of your system to be off, and that's causing
you to overcompensate with a lot of your anxiety, with
a lot of your depression. That your your systems off,
starting in your gut to everything else is going to
be off as a result. Yes, So candida is yeast,
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so a yeast over growth um in your intestinal track,
and that's just showing there's dyspiosis, meaning an imbalance of
bacteria yeast. And again the bacteria is helping us and
helping our brain. So if we have bad guys coming in,
it's suppressing the good guys. And you've been working on
something else requently also kind of the other day you're like, oh,
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I want to give me another week because I'm learning
about something else new because it's it's kind of yes,
so it's very new when it comes to research, So
I'm not gonna go to in depth. But they are
looking at something called leaky brain where chemicals are actually
going through the blood brain barrier, which is causing disruptions
in the brain as well. No, I want you to
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get more specific than the how do you know this? Like,
how do we we don't know. It's you know, it's
all about it's all about calming down the system. So
right now they don't know exactly how this might be happening,
and that's where the research is new. So if chemicals
are going into the brain where there should be a
barrier that that should not be happening. If chemicals are
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going into the brain, it's causing disruptions and that goes
back to the brain in the central nervous system, communicating
to all systems of the body, and that can affect depression, anxiety,
and other mental health conditions. Before I let you go,
give me if you give me some examples of like
the biggest transformations you've seen by people just figuring out
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what was causing them inflammation and taking it out. Absolutely,
there's such a variety. It could be individuals that have
been experiencing extreme stomach pain and in intestinal pain since
they were little and now they're in their thirties and forties,
only a few weeks on the program of calming down
the system, it is gone. The pain is actually gone.
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They've been going to doctors for years and years and years,
so that gastro intestinal pain goes down. Other individuals that
experienced severe migraines um getting a couple of them per month,
and they could last a week, so they're debilitated there
in bed in the dark. The migraines almost completely go
away by calming down that inflammation. But some of the
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ones that were the most interesting to me, the most actually,
I have an individual who had a bump on his leg. Okay,
he came to me for gastro intestinal distress, but he
did tell me I have this random bump on my
leg and I went to the dermatologist and she said,
it's benign, will track it, don't worry about it. We're
not sure what it is. After two weeks on the program,
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it was gone, and it had been there for two
and a half years. That was the one that really
blew me away. So a pocket of inflammation, like what
is that? It's inflammation and the tissue. The dermatologists that
I have no idea how this program made that go away,
but keep doing what you're doing. And a couple others
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that were really eye opening to me. I worked with
someone who had restless leg syndrome and one of the
chemicals that we tested was sorbic acid. So the another
name for that in foods is sorbital. Have you seen sorbital.
It's a sugar alcohol. You even have it in let's say,
toothpaste to make it sweeter, but it's not sugar. You
find it in a lot of different supplements. You find
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it in different products. If it's protein, powders um process products.
And she was taking a vitamin C pack in the
morning to boost her immune system. And she's seventy five
years old. She's been taking this for years. And she
looked at it and she said, oh my goodness, it
has sorbital, and I am highly responsive on the food
sensitivity test to sorbital. She took it out and her
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restless leg syndrome completely calmed down. She's able to sleep again.
So little things like that, tiny changes, you know, the
big getting as you know, the program is hard at first,
but we transition it into a lifestyle. So that one
really stood out to me. And I'll give you one more.
I have a seventy eight year old client client and
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I have I work with one year old up to
seventy eight right now, and the seventy eight year old
client has been having a lot of dental work done
and he's been going in every few months, and he
went in last month and the dental hygiena said, what
have you been doing differently the inflammation in your gums.
They're not bleeding, they're not swollen. What have you been doing?
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And he said, the only thing that I've done is
this program to identify foods that were causing inflammation in
my body. It really is. I mean, I could go
on and on. I'm fascinated by it. It's It's completely
changed how I've looked at nutrition. Again, I've almost been
a dietitian for twenty years and this has It's been
life changing for so many So it's something that I'm
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so passionate about because I I take off of helping people.
I want to personally thank you. And that's why I'm
having you on here, because he changed my life. Man
certainly helped me. And I look, I fell off the
wagon halfway through the football season because that's just just
happens during football. But I'm going back to Thailand the
day after the shoot ball, getting back on exactly, back
on your regiment and anything, hoping to make that more
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of a lifestyle change for me when I come back
from Thailand and not in the middle of the season,
and I've already seen how much it's It's helped me
again between the years, its depression, anxiety, the brain fog
by vocal cords. I ute to be real raspy, and
all of a sudden now I'm not as raspy because
of this. The psoriasis all gone. So if anybody wants
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to sign up your program to have Denise tell people
how to get in touch with you. Yeah, I mean well,
you can reach out to me via email It's Denise
at end as a Nancy p is and Paul and
as a Nancy three six five dot com, or give
me a call at seven to eight nine six seven seven. Denise,
I appreciate you so much, and again for everybody out there,
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I'm gonna bring whatever right hand to the table to
help us in any way with what's going on between
our ears, and again, our our gut is our second brain.
So Denise, thank you so much for walking. Let's walk together.
You're very welcome. Thank you for having me on