Brian Noe and Bucky Brooks Discuss the Shape of the NFL Draft

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Happy Sunday to you. Brian No and Bucky Brooks talking
some ball and beyond today. Very excited, Bucky. How was
the Uh? How are the NBA All Star Saturday festivities
for you? Did you partake? Did you get down and everything?
I didn't. I get down, but I didn't sit there

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and watch it. I thought the dunk contest was cool.
Max McClung doing his thing. Uh, It's kind of funny
to watch him go from being, I would say, kind
of like a Internet Instagram social media sensation to being
able to do it on the big stage. It was
really cool. That was really cool, man. Mac McClung put
on a freaking show. That dude. He's played two NBA

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games in his career. He basically got a call up
so he could wear a seventy sixers jersey during the
dunk contest, right like he'd been playing for a G
league team, and then they called him up to the
seventies sixers and he just went ballistic. He had three
perfect fifties and it was just it had to be
a thrill. You had this guy who's a total no

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name when it was announced. It's like Mac McClung, what
are we doing here in the dunk Contest? This is
what it sunk to, right, And then he's doing all
these high flying dunks. He's getting all this praise from
all these superstars Janice, It's just like, did I did
I just see what you just did? Shack's going crazy.
Dr J presents him with the trophy. That had to

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be such a thrill from Mac McClung. Yeah, it was
a thrill. And I think anytime you can infuse some
of the young guys into the dunk Contest, you can
get some of that, particularly guys that unheralded. And so
he goes out he does uh something that we hadn't
really seen. He had a lot of juice, He had
a lot of energy. You could tell he put a
lot of thought into what he wanted to do and
then he was able to execute it. I think the

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dunk Contest is at his worst when the guys can't
make dunks, like when his miss after miss after miss
with the running clock, and so I'm just excited that
he was able to get his dunks down and he
had a little has a little flair with him. Yeah,
they he definitely did. Uh. And it's funny too because
it's the same song and dance every year, Bucky. Because

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going into the Dunk Contest, it was all about John
Moran and some of the other stars like hey, the
world was begging them, Hey, hey, John, you think about
doing the Dunk Contest next year, and he's like this,
I'm not doing a dunk contest that that. I love
to laugh at the end too. That's like the heart
the hopes and dreams of some of the people hoping

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to see stars in this thing. It's like, yeah, yeah, no,
it's not having I'm laughing at your hopes and dreams
over here. Zion said if he's ever to do it,
it will be what next year, I think, is what
he said. So and the next year he has say
to be next year, Yeah, yeah, open to the Dunk
Contest and uh, if it's not that time, it might

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not happen at all. I don't know. I guess we're
gonna see McClung next year. He committed to it. Bucky.
You Oh, he said, I'll be back to defend my
crown if you'll have me. So that's that's kind of cool. Yeah,
I mean it look at it. It is cool. I
think the bigger thing that came out of it, I
don't know if you checked your social Twitter, uh, the
Harrold Minor signing. That was the big thing. There a
lot of people taking shots at Harrold Minor Baby Jordan's

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as he was once known affectionally in the league. Harrold
Miner showed up. And I didn't know this, but Harrold
Miner was a two time Slam dunk contest When did
you did you only want it twice? It was a
long time ago, but yeah, Harold Monner, Yeah he dunked
with some fury man. He had like the power and

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he was a smaller guy at the time. That's why
my first reaction was they kept panning over to the
judges and some of these it was just obvious. I'm like, okay,
it's Lisa Leslie. I would know that anywhere. And then
they pan to like this new guy and I'm like,
who is this and they're like Harold Minor too. I'm
like baby Jordan's. My first thought was baby Jordan's turned

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into like plump Jordan or something, you know, And I
always I always threw that on Twitter. I'm like yeah,
I might not want to throw that out there. Man,
that might be a little bit too much for the
way things have evolved lately. But yeah, hey man, he's
enjoying life. Put on a couple of LB's. That's all right,
we all we all gain gain a few he he
definitely put on a few LB's. But it was good

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to see him. He was in Salt Lake. He was
kind of doing his thing, I guess because the last
time he when he wanted was he wanted in Salt Lake.
And so it was cool. We got a chance to
see the normal stars Dr Jay and stuff like, just
kind of hanging out man and Karl Malone. He looked good.
He was the opposite of Baby Jordan. Looks like Karl
Malone's doing P ninety X or something. It looks great. Yeah,

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he's still He's still hanging still. I loved Karl Malone,
the hater um. I don't know. Score of the evening
Trey Murphy. I thought it was a gorgeous tunk. He
kind of flipped it to himself, caught it in mid air,
did a windmill. It looked good. Malone was like, yeah,

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I know, it's so. It's so. It looked the judges
are hard. The judges are hard on folks. Now it
is funny, particularly when you get some of those old
guys with a lot of accolades who are doing the
judge and they certainly do not give you easy, easy grades.
They don't. I left the three point shootout, man, I
still think that that was one of the I'm glad
that we can finally say that wasn't the headlining event

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after All Star Saturday, because the dunk contest was a
lot of fun. Mac McClung brought it. But Damian Lillard
of the Blazers, he won the three point shootout and
it literally came down to the final shot for Dame
to have the better score than Buddy Healed. So the
three players were Buddy Healed, Tyrese Haliburton, both teammates with

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the Pacers, and then it was Damian Lillard. Dame went
second in the order and he had to beat Buddy
he Olds score and he needed his final shot to
do so, and he got it. It was that close.
Haliburton wasn't close on his final attempt, But I thought
that was a lot of fun. Matt Julius Randall, that
was the other thing from the knicks, just clanging shots

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left and right to the point where his son is
in tears, like, oh this is awful. Hate what's happening here? Yeah,
Like I thought, we have to take these things for
what it is, like just like the Pro Bowl games
and all the other stuff, like it's an exhibition. And
so I think sometimes were on the outside, get two
caught up and what it is. We want to see
the stars, you want to see You just gotta understand. Look,

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it's All Star weeken. Everyone's trying to let their hair
down and let loose. It's a chance for like some
of the other guys to kind of step center stage,
guys that we never talked about, Like we we never
really talked about mc mclough and some of these other guys,
and so it was a great chance to see those guys,
do there deal? Yeah, absolutely it was. And I do
like how Dame that was his third attempt in the
three point shootout and he said before that he was like,

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I just want to get one so I can retire,
And he got it, and he retired immediately. It's like
I'm done with this thing. I just wanted to get
that one, and he got it. You know what, did
you think, Bucky, you brought up the Pro Bowl games?
What did you think about that whole thing this year
for the NFL? So I would say, uh, the whole
thing for the NFL with the Pro Bowl games, Like
there was so much outrage about the way the game

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was being played. People want to see real football, right,
They want to see the violence that is normally associated
with regular season and play of football games. But that's
never gonna happen in the postseason, in the in the
in the in the Pro Bowl, because guys have got
through the grind of the year and some of them
are impending free agents. Some of them are big money
players who are not trying to mess up their money
in an exhibition. And so the league transition in the

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game over the flag football served a couple of purposes. One,
you got a chance to kind of maybe eliminate some
of the risk factor when it came to injuries. You
don't have the bangs. Basically it was a flag football
game before. And then the second thing is d NFL
if I don't know if you paid attention, but the
NFL is making a big push for flag football. Um,
the NFL is uh really behind girls flag football? And

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what you're trying to do if you're the National Football
because you're trying to create a different generation of fans
and a more diverse fan base. And so if you
promote flag football and you let it know that it's
cool to play flag football, well now you've opened it
up to bring a legion more fans in to watch
your game and be a part of the game. And
if you're seeing any football is football. Whenever you've created

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an opportunity to enhance your revenue streams, to bring more dollars,
to bring more fans to the game. And so that's
why it was a big push I think behind the
scenes to make sure that you have flag football included. Yeah,
I you know the game itself, well, the flat football
games they had basically three of them. I thought it
was pretty entertaining, you know. And look the Pro Bowl.

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I remember back in the day when Sean Taylor rest
in peace, He's blasting punters like this is a real game.
It used to be, and it just evolved into or
devolved into this is unwhy you bowl. I used to
watch the Pro Bowl every year, Bucky, and I was
all right, it was just I knew what it was.
I knew it wasn't gonna be like playoff intensity, so

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I thought of it of as like sports radio with
a weird backdrop, is really what it was. You do
a bunch of interviews and I would watch it every year,
but the final season, like last year, it really was unwatchable.
It was that bad. So it makes a lot of
sense to go to a flag football game for all
the reasons you explained. And they had that two minute

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commercial during the Super Bowl with the girl that played
flag football. I was trying to tackle her. That was fun.
That was really smart, And they're just trying to get
a lot of kids involved in the game where they
might not step foot on an NFL field at all,
but they might be better fans, they might be born
invested in the game. It's really smart. All I ask
is get rid of that big air whatever that is.

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It's kind of like they're dunk contest where you jump
on a trampoline and catch the foot that was a disaster.
Put that out to pastor immediately. Well, you know, some
of that is just experimentation, them trying to figure out
what works, what resonates. But I think flag football is
definitely there to stay positive remarks, and when you look
at the numbers in terms of how many people watch

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the Pro Bowl games compared to the regular Pro Bowl, Uh,
it was only a noticeable drop off. And so I
think you see more of that format going forward. Isn't
that amazing too? This is probably an unfair I know
it's an unfair comparison, but think about the XFL. We
saw a couple of games yesterday. They're just trying to
get it off the ground. It's not going to be

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filled the capacity or anything. But you think about like
the lack of attendance the Pro Bowl games. We're talking
flag football. They had like sixty five thousand people in
Vegas in the Raiders Stadium. That's amazing to me that
you would have that type of attendance for a flag
football game. Man. But I mean, I think it just
shows like how football is keying. NFL football in particularly

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is Key. It doesn't matter what we say, how much
you try and kill it off, like, continues to be
a huge ratings bonanza for networks. That's why they can't
get enough of it. That's why I expect eventually, uh,
you continue to see more uh NFL games on different days.
We saw that during the COVID year. They will continue
to try and slice it off until they can't get

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any more out of it. But people just love NFL football.
By the way, Bucky, I hate to even throw this
at you, but it's been talked about right after the
super Bowl. You ever see the Super Bowl being a
pay per view event? I don't think so. Um, I
don't think so. I mean, look, I think there's a line,
and I'm sure people will pay for it, but I
think there's a line that they would drawn to say

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and say, Okay, that's that's a little much. I never
can see that. Um. I can see the streaming services.
I can see how they did Sunday Ticket because Sunday
Ticket is a draw because you want to get a
chance to see your team in your area. I can
see those things continue to be like subscription base. But
in terms of the super Bowl, I think they make
too much money off a new and audit other stuff

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to kind of miss with it. Yeah. Yeah, I hope
you're right, because I'm just seeing the headline of that
in the discussion and I'm like, oh no, please don't
do that. I'd be griping, but you know I would
get it. The atmosphere, but then you know I would
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We have four hours today, Bucky. We're gonna do NFL
traft stuff. Go Laura. I don't know if you're ready
for this, Bucky, but a little bit later next hour,

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it will be the most important evaluation you make in
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Sports Sunday. We're gonna get to our trusted producer Ryan
Burr Singer jacking up his back yesterday. Bucky, that's definitely
we gotta get into that. He'll do it, dive. But
let's turn our attention to the NFL for a few
minutes here and the draft. We're about what two and
a half, not even less than two and a half

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months away from the NFL Draft, and uh, count me
ready for I know you're all invested in this. Let
me throw a thought at you because I'm thinking about
the Indianapolis Bolts that might be the wild card team
at the top of the NFL Draft for a couple
of reasons. They have the number four overall pick right now,
will they do something bold and trade up to the

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number one overall pick. They've had these retread veteran quarterback
stop gap guys. Did they just say, you know what
the heck with this? Bryce Young's our guy? Or who
have c J. Strouds our guy? Did they move up
to that number one spot? The Colts owner Jim Ursay
the other day he said he likes the Alabama quarterback
quote unquote, you had Colts GM Chris Ballard joke about

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maybe trading back in the draft. Colt said, coach Shane Styke,
And how about this, the coach the quarterbacks that he
has been successful with. Think of these varying styles. Philip
Rivers completely immobile, Justin Herbert, who is an athletic guy
but doesn't use his legs a whole lot, and then

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Jalen Hurts. You can't get much different stylistically than Phil
Rivers and Jalen Hurt. So who do stike in one
is the quarterback in the draft? That's why I have
my eyes on the Colts as maybe the wild card team.
What are they gonna do? I think it's that team
where you say there are a lot of possibilities of
which way they might go. Yeah, there are a lot

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of possibilities in terms of where they could go, and
a lot of it though, will be determined on what
what happens in front of them. When you think about
the top quarterbacks in this draft class one, you've got
to sort out what style are you looking for? Okay,
because we'll just talk about I have a different top
three than most, but let's just talk about the top
four guys. Okay, Um, you have c J. Straut, who
is six three more your prototypical quarterback, big arm, natural thrower,

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can make any throw that you want to see. In
the college football semifinal, the playoff game, he showed his
athleticism where he can move around and do more than
we've seen him do throughout his time at Ohio State. Yeah.
Bryce Young at Alabama who might be the best player
of them all. Uh, he can make all the throws.
He's a great field general, comes through in the clutch
that they great job on a big stage down at Alabama.

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The problem is he might be a tick under six foot.
He's only a hundred and eighty five pounds and we
haven't seen a quarterback in the National Football League hold
up at that size. Uh. You have people that will
talk about Will Levice from Kentucky. To think about Will
Levice like people will make the comparison to Josh Allen,
big physical athletic playmaker. You can see him kind of
run through bodies as a wild card runner, but then

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he is up and down as a passer and when
you look at the last year, a lot of turnovers,
a lot of sacks taken, and he has a tendency
the lock on this primary read, so can he grow
his game like Josh Allen did? And then the other
guy is Hendon Hooker, who played well at Tennessee, but
he's twenty five, almost twenty six years old. He's dealing
with the a c L injury that he heard at
the end of the season, and in that system, which

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is like the Baila offense, we've never really seen a
quarterback grow from that, even though he's super talented and
super polished. And so with all of those different issues,
the cost have to sort out who's the right fit
for me personality wise, who's the right person from a
character standpoint to take over this situation right now? Who
does Shane Stiken want to work with in terms of
how does he envision his office evolving. That's a lot

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to sort out, and right now they don't have the power,
so they have to be comfortable with three or four
different guys and then kind of take what's available if
they're not able to trade up and get the guy
that they want Number one. Isn't that an amazing spot
because think about it, the coaching search that they just had,
it was well chronicled, where fourteen candidates x amount of

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like a hundred and thirty two hours between zoom interviews
and in person interviews and all that type of stuff
and exhaustive search. It might be more exhaustive what they're
gonna do with the quarterback that they're going to draft
because of their history, and we all know how important
it is to get that right. But what a spot
there is, because like you said, Bucky, right now at

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number four, you have to be comfortable with a few
quarterbacks if you choose to stay there, because there could
be two, there to be three guys taken before you
pick at number four, and then it becomes, well, we
gotta get a QB. Do you like a quarterback enough
to move up knowing the price tag that's attached to it.

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They might like Bryce Young a lot, but do you
like them enough to go all in and start throwing
other assets, other draft picks, future draft picks in there
to move up and get the guy you might not?
Then what do you do? What do if you do
if you really like a couple of the prospects but
not enough to try to trade up for them and
they're long gone by time you pick. It's a tough

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position to be in for them. It is a very
difficult situation for them to be in. And it's one
of those things where as we're looking at the draft
and trying to figure out who's who and what was
what um this draft is weird because I would say,
like it is loaded with second and third round talent,
it is not as uh plentiful with with like blue

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chip upper end guys. And when you think about the quarterback,
and I know, like for TV and media purposes, we
always talk about quarterbacks get pushed up, but in reality,
in meeting rooms, like that's that's not what happens. And
so when you grade the players for what they are,
is there a guy that you view as a superstar?
Do you see a Joe Burrow in this class? Is

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there a guy that can make U immediate contributions and
the impact like a Justin Herbert in this class? Do
you even have a Trevor Lawrence in this class? So
guys have to grade the quarterbacks right because if you miss,
if you miss up high, you look at what the
Jets are dealing with with Zach Wilson. Uh, it hurts you.
And so you got to get the right guy in
the building and then figure out what you can do

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with him to put him at his best. And you
gotta put him at his best early because the biggest
Super Bowl window that you have is a quarterback on
a Ricky contract. So you've got five years to figure
this out. And so that's why it's really important to
make sure that the quarterback that you have has some
superpowers that will allow you to get him on the
field while you're building up the team around him. Yeah. Man.
And I think the timing of the draft is so

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interesting too, because is there are some years where it's
just obvious. It's like, well, we're gonna draft Andrew Luck
it's obvious, or Trevor Lawrence, or take the NBA when
Lebron was coming out, it was a no brainer, right.
And there are other years where you're like, oh, gosh,
I guess Anthony Bennett is who we're going with that, right,
Like it happens in the NFL also, and uh, you

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look at this year's NFL draft, there isn't that player
that you're like, Okay, clearly, this dude is the number
one overall pick at the most important position, and so
the timing of it is really really interesting. When teams
just happened to find themselves with the number one or
number two pick and they're like, this isn't a draft
like some other drafts were just obvious. It makes it

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a lot more difficult. So that thing is always interesting.
And just to shoehorn this in there, you mentioned the
Jets and the mess they have with Zach Wilson. How
crazy is that You go back a couple of years
the Jets hosted Jacksonville in a game late in the season.
The Jets won that game, and that basically allowed Jacksonville

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to have the first overall pick. If the Jets lose
that game, they might have had Trevor Lawrence this whole time.
It's amazing to go back and think about it like that.
It is amazing to think about it like that. But
then the other thing that you would wonder, what would
they have done with Trevor Lawrence, right, because we saw
Trevor Lawrence the year before under Urban Meyer and he
certainly didn't look like the same player that he looked

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like under Doug Peterson. So it is the player, but
it's also a lot about the coaching and which coach
is going to nurture the young quarterback and help him.
When I look at Jalen Hursts and how Jalen Hurst's
game has really popped and flourished on a Nick Sirianni. Yes,
Shane Styken will get that, but Nick Sirianni had to
be the one who set the vision for how he
wanted this team to play. In mid year, uh last year,

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the Philadelphi Eagos changed how they played and it enabled
Jalen Hurst to become well. Look on the verge of
being the start that he is a guy who we're
talking about now as a friend's top five quarterback in
this league. When he was when he entered the league
from from Oklahoma after transferring from Alabama, no one viewed
Jalen Hursts like that. And so as much of it

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his is the player, a lot of it is also
the coaching in the scheme that goes with it. That's true. Man.
Can you imagine that if the way Trevor Lawrence looked
in year one with Urban Meyer, you're saying, we might
have seen the same guy in year two if he
was with the Jets the whole time, right, like, yeah,
it could have been the way it went down, but
thankfully it's with Doug Peterson. I'm sure he would he

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would tell you that as well. Okay, we gotta get
to the wild card player of the draft and also
a a significant back injury from our producer Ryan bur Singer.
First though, Nick Cope, he's got the latest. What's going on? Nick?
Good morning, guys. We do have some NFL news this morning.
A report from NFL Media says the Cardinals are hiring

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Drew pet Sing as their offensive coordinator. Who's Drew Petsing well.
He spent last season as the Browns quarterbacks coach, and
he previously worked alongside Jonathan gan In in Minnesota. At
the NBA All Stars Saturday festivities, mac McClung won the
Slam Dunk Contest just days after the Sixers signed him
on a two way contract. He posted three perfect scores

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on his four dunks, dominating the competition. He becomes the
second undrafted player to win the Slam Dunk Contest. In
the three point shootout, Damian Lillard just out shot Buddy Healed,
and golf Tiger Wood shot a four under sixty seven
in the third round at Riviera in Los Angeles. That's
his best round in relation to par since the Masters

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in November of He is currently in a tie for
twenty six. John Ram is your leader entering the final
round of three shot lead at fifteen under. Tiger will
be teeing off just after eight am Pacific today. Ram
and the leaders go at ten am Stadium Series game
in the NHL played at NC States Football Stadium and
the host Hurricanes dispatched the Capitols four to one. College

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basketball just one upset in the top twenty five yesterday
that was Kentucky being a number ten Tennessee in like
Seaton sixty six and fifty four Markie game in the
day saw number five Kansas e raised a thirteen point
halftime deficit and run away from number nine Baylor eighties
seven seventy one. Rest of the top ten, Number one Alabama,
number four U c l A had dominating wins. Narrow

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victories for number six Texas and number seven Virginia and
number eight Arizona also a winner ten point win over Colorado.
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I was just feverishly doing a Google search because that
was a nice nugget from Nick there. Bucky said that
mc McClung the second undrafted guy to win the Dunk Contest.
So I'm like, well, who's the other guy. Who's the
other guy over there, Darre Jones Jr. Who's now with

(25:02):
the Bulls. He won the Dunk Contest a couple of
years ago in But that would be your other undrafted
free agent contest. Yeah, whether if you put me on
day if we're playing a tribute game for Bucks, I
would have lost out on that one. I don't even
remember him doing that. It was two years ago, like twenties,
three years ago. I don't remember that happening. I don't. Yeah,

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oh man, that when I was in Portland doing local radio.
He played for the Blazers, and that guy he literally
got a trampoline in his shoes. He is tremendous in game.
He's with the bulls right now. But that dude cannot
shoot threes. Oh my gosh. And the Blazers were like,
you know, let's have you shoot three. Let's let's expand
your game. And I'm like, stop doing that. He cannot

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shoot threes, but man, he can dunk. He can definitely
fly in the air. He just not not throwing the
ball through the air through the hoop. It just doesn't
work out the same White Bucky. Well, that's why. I
just find something that you can be great at. There's
nothing wrong with it. Like this, find something that you
can be great at. Like there's this theory that we
have in my family. We like the French horn. So
when you go and play in the band, no one

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wants to play the French horn. But if you grab
the French one and you become great at it, you're invaluable.
So maybe when you're talking about him Duncan, maybe he
just become the best in game Duncant that we were
ever seen it, and he will spend his time uh
in the league as the end game Duncan that everyone
goes to when you break out, he runs out and
he slams there you go. Man. I love that we
might have that in the upcoming NFL draft, who's the

(26:31):
French horn player right the upcoming draft? How about this?
You mentioned this guy's name, Hendon Hooker, the Tennessee quarterback.
I think he's the wild card player of this entire
draft because we saw how great he played at Tennessee
this past season. But you mentioned it the age. He's
almost twenty six years old. That's old for an NFL

(26:53):
rookie soon to be. And then you think about that
torn a c l which obviously muddies the waters in
terms of, Hey, we need a quarterback, when do we
get him? If this is our guy, I'm just I'm
fascinated to see where he goes, when he goes and
who he goes goes above If that's the way it
shakes out with some guys like Anthony Richardson or some

(27:16):
other quarterback prospects on the board, what do you think
about Hendon Hooker and what might happen in a couple
of months draftwise? Here? So here's the thing, I am
an unabashed Hendon Hooker fan. When you watch him play,
he plays the game the right way. He can make
all the throws, he can throw a touch timing and anticipation,
He can drive the ball, he can put you down
the field. Uh. He's a great leader, but he should

(27:37):
be because he's an older player. And so some will
view that as a knock, but at the quarterback position,
it really isn't a knock when you see a quarterbacks
play into their forty forty five years old. And so
the thing about Hooker that you have to figure out. One,
where is he when it comes to the rehab of
his knee. When would he be available to your team?
Do you have the luxury have not necessarily needing him

(27:57):
in your one? But you view him as a long
term option? Uh? Down down the line. Two. The system
that he played in, I mean it is a big
place system. I mean they pushed the ball down the field.
They stress you. From a schematic standpoint, so he had
a lot of easy throws. What does he look like
when he has to play in a more traditional offense?
Can you figure out what he knows from an i

(28:20):
Q standpoint? When you have them in meetings and you
put them on the board and you look at the tape,
and how advanced is he when it comes to his
football acumended i Q? But in terms of playing the game.
He's a better player than will Levis in terms of
how they play. Will Levis gets to benefit of the
doubt because everyone is trying to make sure they don't
miss out on Josh Allen two point oh like they

(28:42):
missed out a few years ago. But who knows if
he can develop at that rate. But to me, he's
no worse than the third best quarterback in this class,
injury or not. And so I just think that someone
could get us steal if they get him at the
right value and they have time to wait on him
to get all the way back to full him. That's
the thing to Bucky is really interesting to me? Is

(29:03):
I like that you have him ranked number three out
of your top five QB prospects. I think it would
be nearly universal had he not gotten injured, had he
not had the torn a c L that he would
most likely be at least in the top three with
most people evaluating the quarterback position. But it's it's crazy
to me too. Is now this is we're talking about?

(29:25):
Is that like the nineteen sixties with the torn a
c L, You know what I mean? And Hendon Hooker
for a guy that, yeah, he utilizes his legs he
utilizes his athletic ability. We shouldn't act like this dude
is significantly his game is gonna be significantly altered going forward.
You know, it could alter his rookie season a bit
in terms of his availability in the offseason. Workout stuff fine,

(29:49):
But if you're hoping to have this guy for the
next decade, I don't know why a torn a c
L would completely scare you off to the point where
you're gonna draft him, maybe like a full round, laid
er than what you normally would. I just I don't
understand the way that thought process will work out. And
some teams I think they'll fall victim to just that. Oh,
they absolutely will fall victim to it. Like this one

(30:10):
requires you to be a visionary to have enough perspective
to understand where he could be not necessarily in three,
but what could he be doing in Do you have
the luxury of having a quarterback in place where you
can do it? Not the same player, but we'll say
maybe a similar circumstance. The kN City Chiefs took Pat
Mahomes while they still had a pro bowled quarterback and

(30:31):
Alex Smith. Pat Mahomes had the luxury of being able
to play on the sidelines and play in practice and
do all those other things to experiment and rEFInd his game.
Do you have a situation like that where you have
a quarterback who maybe nearing the end of his time
where you're like, Okay, this is a perfect spot for
us to get a quarterback when we don't need it. Like,
think about going to the grocery store. Right, you're probably

(30:52):
a more prudent and frugal shopper when you're fooled before
you go to the grocery store as opposed to having
to hunger pains going in there by up all the
chips and snacks or whatever. So this is a situation
where you want to be a a nice, thrifty shopper
where you have an opportunity to add a quarterback at
a position, the most important position of prospect that can

(31:13):
maybe play at a high level for you when you
don't need it. It gives you currency. And people laughed
at how he roseman years ago when he took Jalen
Hurts when they had Carson Wentz. But now when you
look back on that, uh, that was great. And he
talked about we want to be a quarterback factory where
the factory produce a Super Bowl appearance. I think others
should think about that when they dig into this draft class,

(31:34):
particularly when it comes to looking at Hendon Hooker. No
doubt about that. By the way, I went to the
grocery store yesterday, Bucky. Take a guess what the grocery
bill was. And I wasn't even hungry at the time. Oh,
at a minimum, it has to be a hundred dollars
at a minimuent, you're not getting out of the grocery
store without spending a C note or less. It had
to be. It has to be. You're right, you just

(31:55):
have to double it. It was too hondo and a
cat wasn't even hung ree, Bucky. I'm like, what has
happened to you? Know, like you fancy? You fancy me
as like I kind of fancy is one of those
guys that likes to go to those high end grocery stores.
So like you kind of strike me as like, you
know what, we can make sure we have all organic everything.

(32:15):
So we're gonna go into one of the the upper
end grocery stores in the town and make sure we
get the fancy stuff. And no, no, no, we're not
going to get the chicken that is already prepackaged. We're
gonna go right to the butcher and make sure he
chops up the whole chicken forest so we can put
it on the skewer. That's funny. That's how I that's
how I sense you kind of going to the grocery store.
So yeah, like two hundred is probably about right based

(32:39):
on how you kind of like definer things in life.
You know what's funny is, I'll give you two very
quick stories. So my sister, because my nephews, they've had
to have a very specific diet um it's like health
related that type of thing. So she's gotten like organic
and that type of stuff throughout most of their lives,
and uh everything, I just head in my head for

(33:00):
the longest time like organic sucks, you know, like what
are we doing over here? And so she would I'd
go over to her house and she'd be like, hey, here,
try this, and I tried them. It's good. She'd like
you like it, it's organic. That was the running joke.
And the other funny thing is the Fox Sports radio studios.
It's right down the street from Whole Foods. And I

(33:22):
was starving one day. I was doing a show, they're
in person, and I'm like, I gotta get some snacks.
I went to Whole Foods. Great store. Great Store's not
for me. I'm going up and down the aisles, up
and down them like that sucks. I don't want that.
No thanks, that's too healthy. No now, I couldn't get anything,
but yeah, I think I walked out with like some
saltine crackers or something. But oh, I know what it is, Briano.

(33:45):
You were missing. You wanted like funyans and Dorito's normal stuff,
Like you just wanted some real good like trash juke
food to make you feel good about yourself, like right
before you like when you sat behind the mike in
between breaks, you all you little stuff. But no, you're
sitting there and you're having to get the rice cakes
and the popcorn crisps and there from hopefuls. Yeah, and

(34:07):
I didn't satisfy your palette. I get that. Man, that
was eye opening from my diet. I'm literally walking down
all these healthy aisles like, no, thanks, Nope, wouldn't do that,
don't want that, don't want that either. I'm like, I
need to start eating more healthy over here. It was
eye opening experience. Okay, we got a lot to do.
We gotta get to back injuries around the corner, and

(34:27):
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(35:37):
yesterday as the appetizer before Mac McClung in in prime
time with the Dunk Contest. But watching Walder Wall college
hoops yesterday and something stood out to me. Maybe I'm
late arriving to the party, but it got me thinking
about the sports world as a whole. I'm watching some
of the zany stuff happened. Where take the Kansas Baylor game,

(35:59):
for in stints, right, So, Kansas got out scored in
the first half by thirteen points against Baylor. Baylor was
given it to him pretty good. And then after halftime
Kansas turned around and outscored Baylor by twenty nine points
in the second half and they won comfortably. And I
just started thinking, I'm like college basketball, it was pretty psychotic.

(36:22):
We see these crazy outcomes in the same game, right,
we see these crazy swings in the same game or
from game to game. I just started thinking about March
madness and single elimination, forty minutes, three point line. Almost
anything can happen. You had a sixteen seed and u
MBC beat Virginia the number one overall seed by twenty

(36:44):
points a couple of years ago. You know you're not
gonna see the equivalent in some other sports or other levels.
And I started thinking, March Madness has gotta be the
hardest to predict of all the postseasons. I'm not saying
every postseason is easy, but you compared to the NBA
at best of seven series, it's easier to predict. Even

(37:06):
in the NFL, where there's a lot of parody and
there are upsets. It's not the same thing as March Madness,
where every year you're gonna have one region where your
bracket is just freaking destroyed, you know, And I think
it's by far the hardest to predict. Would you agree
with that? Oh, it absolutely is the hardest. And the
reason it's the hardest because you've got young people playing

(37:26):
in a semil elimination tournament that have so many variables.
Sometimes this year night, sometimes regardless of what the defense
is doing, you just can't hit a shot um And
that's why if you were a team like for instance,
I'm I'm a Tarho fan. I've rocked with titar Hio
since I was a little right now there, up and down.
But the only thing I keep telling myself is all

(37:47):
they have to do is get into the tournament. Because
once you get into the tournament, you only have to
be hot for six games in the n C Double
A Tournament to win it. And we have seen teams
who have been up and down get hot at the
right time and find their way into the final four.
And so I think the beauty of March Madness and
college basketball is that as much as we think we know,

(38:08):
you never know. And when we see one in sixteen
and we see the occasional six team, see knockoff, you
see two and fifteen, that happen more often than not,
and so you just don't know. And the way college
basketball is now where you have a mix of teams
that are doing the one and done deal, you have
other teams who have four and five years seniors that

(38:28):
are either homegrown or their graduate transfer, so they have
that experience and maturity. You really don't know is it
the talent or the toughness and experience that wins out.
That's why the tournament is fascinating, and that's why we're
seeing more parody and college basketball than ever before, because
there's so many different ways to build a team and

(38:49):
you only have to be hot for a six game
stretch man. Do you remember the Mark Wahlberg movie Shooter.
You ever see that one? It's pretty good. But there's
a line in that movie from an another actor that
I love that applies to march madness. Here's the line,
moment you thank you guys figured all right, Like that's
march madness in a nutshell right there where. Yeah, I've

(39:11):
seen name one of the top teams. Alabama is a
good example. Alabama. The previous game they lost to Tennessee
to fifty nine. They scored fifty nine points in that game.
And then yesterday against a bad Georgia team, they scored
a hundred and eight points. That's almost unheard of in
the college basketball games. Well, I see them and they

(39:32):
live and that by the three. I watched him play
l s U one night and before I could even
sit down and you know, get your derrito's ready and
my drink down, they had hit like eight to ten
threes and I'm like, what is going on? They shooted
like as a layup, like they lighted up, and when
it's going they'll run you right about the pain. And

(39:52):
so that's also the beauty of college basketball. The three pointer,
the three point line is the equalizer. If you have it.
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I should be transparent with you and the audience and
everybody out there. You know, I got fired from ti
Iraq True Store. Yeah, it's all good. I was fired
twice in my life and ti Iraq was no hard feelings,

(41:01):
hard feelings, but I drove I drove like they called
it a picker cart. I thought I saw someone driving
down the road like a van and it had a
picture of that cart on it, and I'm like, oh man,
I remember those days. But I drove this cart because
you would get these tires in the warehouse, huge warehouse
of tires, and so I was doing what they called

(41:23):
customer pickup because you know me, Bucky, I was fast.
I was fast on the picker cart, baby, And so
the people would come into the store to get their
tires put on. So if you got this label was
like a gold label. You had to get it real quickly,
you know. And so I went to go get these tires,
and you hit this button to go online where you

(41:44):
don't have to steer. It was at the very end
of the aisle where they're just tires on one side,
and so I thought I was online, so I wasn't
even steering. I'm like, you know, hitting the gas while
I'm scanning my next label and all that stuff, and
boom boom, right into the huge barricade of tires I went.
So I was on like probation for a little bit.

(42:06):
It happened again. I was sick to my stomach, Buckey,
but they were like, you know, I'm sorry, we have
no choice. He damaged the cart. We gotta let you go.
So they lets you go because your damage the car.
We don't we don't get an opportunity to make mistakes.
I had one free pass and then they put me
back on. I made another mistake, and hey, when you
cost them money tires not screwing around over here. We're

(42:29):
not in the business of letting you just damage our
cards for no good reason. You know, you gotta go.
You'll find something else out there. No, maybe Fox Sports Radio.
I don't know. So it worked out, okay, But yeah, yeah,
that's the that's uh, that's tough. First thing I wanted
to did you get proper training? Did they train you?
Did they take you through like a continuing education class

(42:50):
to make sure you knew how to how to operate
to pick er? You know? Did they did? They? Yeah,
like an apprenticeship that you could have served before they
gave you all of those responsibilities. I I just want
to make sure they exhausted all of their options before
they put it on. You were like, hey, man, you're
not good enough, gonna let you go. See you know
what this is why you're awesome, Bucky Brooks. It's not

(43:11):
just because you give us great NFL draft insight and beyond.
It's because you're default setting is it's gotta be tire
Rex fault. It can't be Brian Know's fault over. It's
gotta be tire Rex. That's beautiful, right, But no, I
think I was trained well enough. It's totally my fault
and uh cost me. But I do feel good about

(43:32):
one thing, Bucky, because I went into the the manager's
office right when it happened. One of the managers came
up and said, were you online? Because they were like
after the first time, they were like, you have to
be online. Make sure you're online. You don't have to steer,
you don't make a mistake. And so the guy ran
up to me and he's like, were you online? And
I'm like, no, I wasn't. And so I went into

(43:53):
the office with the other manager and that he let
me know they had to let me go, and I'm like,
I feel like I'm getting fired because I told the
tr ruth where I told you that I wasn't online,
and he was like, oh, we can tell if you
were or not. There's a setting on the cart that
lets us know. Yeah. Yeah, and so I'm like, oh gosh,
So not only would I have gotten fired, I would

(44:15):
have been exposed as a bold faced liar. If I
had said I was online and they could have told
that I wasn't, that would have been even worse, Bucky.
At least I told the truth. I mean, you told
truth got the same outcome. I mean, yea, I makes
you feel better, like, hey, your noble is still intact,
but the result was the same. Yeah, it was. Yeah.

(44:37):
I don't have the you know, the scarlet lying letter
on me saying I was online when I wasn't. Okay,
let's get to the NFL here, Bucky, enough about me,
Let's get to uh. Aaron Rodgers in darkness Aaron Rodgers,
the darkness retreat? Is that what we're calling it? I look,
I don't know, Like the last the last four to

(45:01):
five years with Aaron Rodgers have been a lot to
deal with. I can only imagine what it's like in
the building to deal with the the change that they've witnessed. Um,
the darkness Retreat would be one. I just can't imagine
the flour being like all right, Aaron, like what you
knowing what your plans. Yeah, man, I'm gonna take four
days and just going to dark. Oh you're just gonna

(45:21):
leave social No, no, no, no, I'm going to sit
in the room like I'm in the hole in the
whole like yeah or something. Yeah, yeah, Like they're just
gonna They're just gonna send food and kind of shovel
it up under the thing. Like what are you doing
in the dark? I mean, do we have a night
light so we can at least see what we're eating? Like,
what what does that entail in the dark? I have

(45:42):
no idea. I don't know, but yeah, I just start
thinking of Andy Dufrayne and Sham. That's another two weeks
in the hall and they see him emerging, Like, oh gosh,
it's so bright, you know. Is that how Roger's gonna
look when he comes out of this? Like he might
be out already. I'm not sure. I haven't gotten the
latest updates. But in any event, four days in total darkness.

(46:03):
You brought up a great point, Bucky. Before we get
into the other layers of this, It has been a
lot the last couple of years, just the stuff we
know of what they were in Rogers on a day
to day basis, you already know it's so much worse
than it's gotta be. You know, if he is acting
out like we believe he's acting out, you can only

(46:24):
imagine how bad it is in the building. You know,
just just all of the stuff and the thing about it.
You know, having spent three years up in Green Bay,
they'll tell you, like when you walk into doors bright
like they're all these pictures of the great Um Lombardi teams, right,
and they always talk about it being the team. And
I remember distinctly in a preseason game, like you make
a play and you jump around and maybe you you

(46:47):
pound your chest or whatever, and I remember him stopping
the table like, oh, yeah, we don't do that here
that there's legitimate Fritz Sherman defense coordinate is like, yeah,
we don't. We don't get down like that, Like we're
about the team. You go round with your teammates. So
what I was like, Oh, you know, so everything up
there has always been about the team because they always
harken back to the sixties, their most successful period, and

(47:09):
that's how they want the team to go. Look, the
uniforms haven't changed, I mean, nothing changes. The town is
still stuck back in the sixties and seventies in terms
of like how they view football. And so with this quarterback,
you have a guy who's a me guy, you know,
and like they can say, oh, he's a great teammate, Yah,
he had a YadA. Some of his older guys will be,
but he's a me guy. And so it really goes
against what the Packers have stood for when it comes

(47:31):
to how they win in the tradition and the team
and all that other stuff. And so I have to
know that there's some old timers that love what he
brings as a player, but they probably hate what he
brings as a person. Probably. Yeah, I think it's well set.
And think about that. You laid it out. He's going
against the culture that they want and that they've developed

(47:54):
over decades. Is like he wasn't there for the offseason
workouts last Year's right? Good? Okay, So no white receivers,
no Davante Adams, we got rookies all over the place.
I'm good. I don't feel like it, Okay, So think
about it this way. Pat Mahomes loses Tyreek Hill, they

(48:15):
bring a brand new set of I mean, let's be real,
unheralded pass catchers right, Juju Smith, Schuster, Marquez Veldescandley who
worked with Aaron Rodgers, uh Justin Watson who comes from
Tampa Bay as a special team and they draft Scott More.
Pat Mahomes has those guys down in Texas working out
before they even get back to the off season program.

(48:38):
Andy Rees said that all those guys were ready to
go when we got the phase two where we could
get on the field and do it because Pat Mahomes
sacrificed the time to make sure that his guys were right.
Aaron Rodgers does none of that, goes to the mandatory mindicamp,
and then in the middle of the season he's complaining
about the young guys playing and I'm like, what are
we talking about? Yeah, you're not around. He goes against everything,

(49:03):
everything that you typically want from your QB. One, the
franchise quarterback is supposed to be there all the time.
He's supposed to give of himself to make sure that
everybody else is right because he's the most important person
on the franchise outside of the head coach at the
GM and this guy is on his own plan. It's hard, man,
it is, It's very hard. So with all that as
the backdrop. Listen to this rumor here. So Bob McGinn,

(49:26):
he's covered the Packers for decades. He was on a
podcast recently, and so he said he cited someone who
has firsthand knowledge of the Packers and then also relied
on his own instincts knowledge of the league, that sort
of thing. He said, they are done with Rogers. He's
not coming back. I mean, they're disgusted with him and
they're done with him and they're moving on. That could

(49:47):
very well be the case. But where it goes from Okay,
that's reasonable too, that's totally unreasonable. He said. If Rogers
is back with the Packers, he'll be the backup to
Jordan's love. Now here's the thing, Bucky, this is where
we get into crazy territory. Like he's not gonna make

(50:07):
all of that money to hold the clipboard. And you
talk about think about some of these passing of the
torch situations we've had, like Drew Bledsoe where he got
benched for Tom Brady right after becoming the highest paid
player in the NFL just about seven months prior. Professional graceful, right,

(50:29):
Like I remember him at his lockers saying I don't
like it, But I gotta be a team guy over here.
Tony Romo getting benched for Dak Prescott, Like, there are
many situations where that has happened. Aaron Rodgers is not
one of those quarterbacks to think team first and to
handle it professionally and gracefully. It would be a freaking

(50:51):
disaster for Jordan's Love, who the Packers are hoping is
their quarterback of the future if that's what they end
up doing keeping Rogers on the bench. There's no way
they would put Jordan's Love in that position with Rogers
and his diva self on the bench. They would want
to put Jordan's Love in the best position to succeed.

(51:12):
Having Aaron Rodgers there is not it. So he's either
the starter or he's traded. There is zero chance Aaron
Rodgers is on the roster and being the backup. No way. Yeah.
The thing about it, like the trade like really crushes
him from a salary cap thing because all that is
accelerated to the cap. But I could see either being
done with him now. I don't know if m the
Fleur is done with him, but I can see everyone

(51:34):
else in the building. Uh. Look, Brian Gutikus Uh, you know,
Mark Murphy got because he's a lot and they have
basically allowed him to do stuff and put it with
things they would never put up with another player. There's
no other player who would have been able to take
them through the hurdles and jump hoops and all this
other stuff that they're doing with him. And so I

(51:55):
do believe that there's some desire to seize control of
the france As again, even if it cost him to
step back, because remember this year, you put up with
all of it and you didn't make the playoffs. So
what's the point, Like, if I'm gonna put up with
all that, uh, you better learn, you better be able
to win. It's very similar in a different way to

(52:16):
Antonio Brown. Look, man, as long as your talent is
at a level where you produce, they'll tolerate certain things.
But when your talent slips, then the toleran's also goes away.
And I think we're at that point with the Green
Bay Packers. They're gonna tolerate a whole much a lot
of this if the performance is sliding like we saw
last year. Yeah, no, no doubt about that. And I

(52:38):
just to put one more layer on that rumor just
being ridiculous of Rogers if he is back being the backup.
Can you imagine when Rogers was in his first year
as the starter for the Packers. Can you imagine if
the Packers brought back Brett Farve to be the backup, Like,
there's no way they would do something like that. Like

(52:59):
Farv was either going to be the starter or he
was gonna be elsewhere. It's the same situation with therein Rogers.
He's either going to be the starter or he's going
to be somewhere else. What's your money on, though, Bucky,
you got a gut feeling you think Rogers is back
for another go with the Packers. You think they ship
them off somewhere else. I think he's I think he's
gonna I think he goes somewhere else. I think they're
rather I think they'd rather take a step back, put

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the young gut on the field, see what exactly they
have because they have to make a decision on him,
you know. I mean, he's been there three years this
time it's time to see if he can play or not.
So yeah, I think this is the year that Jordan
Love has an opportunity to run out because even at
his worst, he's a better teammate than Aaron Rodgers. And
sometimes the guys in the locker room like no one

(53:40):
is saying anything. But I am sure that when he leaves,
I bet you those young guys have a bunch of
stuff to say about how they treat how you treat it.
I bet you're right. You go back to like you said,
around the middle portion of the season where and I
can't remember his passive aggressive comments about you know, the
young guy eyes and alluding to running the right routes

(54:03):
or catching the ball or whatever. And you heard, you
heard that some of these guys are not happy with
what Aaron Rodgers has to say. And so I know
that is true. I know there's a lot of man
this dude over here. I can can you imagine in
the locker room are or like outside of the facility
where you know, like teammates hang out with teammates. I

(54:26):
would love to hear those conversations about man this dude
over here. Can you believe these polling this or whatever
they're talking about? That would be entertaining for sure. I mean,
he just just so extra when it comes to it.
How about Aaron Jones, he reworked his contracts. So the
running back over there in Green Bay, he'll be back
in three so and eleven million dollar salary. It includes

(54:50):
an eight point five million dollar signing bonus. So they
rework his deal. Aaron Jones very good running back, the
one to combo with A J. Dillon, So he'll be
back in the fold. Always interesting, man, these these running
back contracts, Bucky, who gets what? And how big of
a percentage of the offense are are they relying on?

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You know that player for so Aaron Jones back? Will
Aaron Rodgers be back? I'm curious if it's Jordan's Love
and Aaron Jones in the backfield instead of Aaron Rodgers
and Aaron Jones. We shall see, well, we shall see,
and we have an opportunity to see not only um
those two guys, but all those picks that when people
were complaining about, you know, the Packers have not given

(55:32):
Aaron Rodgers enough firepower where they haven't added enough weapons
when have those young guys should be at the point
where they're mature enough to start making plays, and so
can we see Christian Watson and Romano Dubbs and uh
A J. Dillon and Aaron Jones and then maybe Jordan's
love kind of a new generation of Packers kind of
stepped to the forefront and make plays. Because ultimately, when

(55:52):
you're the Packers, that's what you're hoping for, you hoping
those guys would grow up and blossom together with the
young quarterback. Uh. So we'll see if works out. Yeah,
we absolutely will. Okay, we've got a ton to do.
I swear we gotta pay off the back injury of
Ryan Burr Singer. It's like the audience is like, dude,
I've stopped around here. Even I am hanging around like, hey,

(56:15):
what what what happened? What happened to my guy? Sorry,
it was just an impromptu uh me getting fired story,
you know, and we had to re reshape things here.
So we will get to Ryan bur Singer's uh bulging
disc or whatever he's got going on back there. And
then also, is this a good fit? Simple question? Is

(56:36):
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Tiger Woods here in a second, and I feel like
it's a good place before we get to Tiger to
talk about a true star, which would be our producer,
Ryan Burr Singer. Not to say that Tiger isn't, but
you know, it's a start Fox Sports Radio over here,

(57:19):
and it's a good thing. Tiger has been dealing with
injuries and so it's a good tie in. Ryan bur Singer,
He's dealing with a back injury over here, Bucky Ye
back injury. Yeah, like like so like rushing them come in.
I was like, man, he looks okay, But I know babe,
slow starterists early, you know what I'm saying, Like, but okay,
I need to be enlightened on what is going on. Yeah.

(57:41):
Uh So I went to a concert last night. Um
I saw a couple of metal core acts. So north
Lane one of my favorite bands. They're out of Sittney, Australia,
and uh, well hold on, you saw metal core? Yes,
so this is like I'm not sure, like a like
a heavy metal type thing. What is this exactly? Yeah, yeah,

(58:02):
it's uh yeah, I already know what happened already. Are
seen this before. Yeah, So apparently I've hit the stage
in my life where I need to start hanging back
a little bit, you know. Uh, I was a little
I was a little sore this morning, and then when

(58:22):
I got here and got out of the car, I
pulled my bag out of the out of the car
and just like tweaked a muscle in my upper back
and I had to like stand there next to my
car for a minute, going, I think I think I'm
stuck here for the rest of the day. I don't.
I don't think I'm leaving the spot. Uh. So I'm
feeling a little better right now because I I popped

(58:43):
some tail and all, and so I'm getting a little
more motion at the moment. But yeah, it's so you
didn't tweak it until you get out of the car
in the parking lot. Yeah, it was. I woke up sore,
but it was manageable. Then when I got out of
the car. That's when it set on fire. Okay, so

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I have to ask this because okay, so it was
it was a heavy metal thing. So I'm assuming there's
a bit of a is there mash pit? Yes, yes,
I don't want to reveal. How old are you? You
know you two ought to be jumping into Yeah, I
know that's a that's a young person. You can't go

(59:26):
full on belly flop into a sea of arms and
people like we have to leave that in our twenties. Yeah,
we can't do that anymore. Yeah. I think this is
the first time where I'm like, you know what, it's
it's time to hang it up a little bit. I
swing the other way. Ryan, I think you just gotta
throw more elbows, you know, you gotta you gotta protect

(59:47):
you gotta protect yourself a little bit more and be
a little more aggressive if you're going in there, you know,
or or or you have to start training to go
to concerts. Yeah, three or four week before you get
a story like stretching out, like how yoga's nearby? Like,
maybe get some of that stuff in. Maybe lift a
little ways, a little squat, dad, lift, can't get your

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body ready to engage in that because you just can't
go out there flimsy and limpy like that's that's that's
what happened. You get your mind right, you know. I'll
tell you two things here, Ryan, this might be helpful.
Now this comes from a guy. I've had a couple
of like minor back injuries, but this is when you
know you're getting old. Bucky. So, I was in Albany,

(01:00:31):
New York doing radio over there, shout out to the
five on eight. But I literally I just was sitting
at a in a chair and the phone rang and
I just reached across the desk to answer the phone,
and I heard in my back boom, I like a firework,
and I was just like my back was on fire.

(01:00:53):
I'm not even choking. For three days, I don't know
what happened. For three days, I could not stand completely
up right. I was not lunched over. So that's the backdrop.
Now you fast forward to this was what about six
months ago or so. So my girlfriend is from Mexico City.
I'm in Mexico City visiting her. I was doing a
radio show on a Sunday morning, just like today with

(01:01:16):
Andy Ferman. I'm sitting in a chair and I'm feeling
this thing in my back, but it's not that uncomfortable.
So I just kept sitting the way I was after
the show, same thing my back. I couldn't stand upright,
I'm punched over like we're standing in the middle of
the road. I'm like, I can't walk yet. I just
can't walk yet. We went to like just a massage place,

(01:01:39):
like a legitimate professional massage, and they hooked it up Ryan.
I was cured, dude, you might just need that. Go
get to get a massage that might help you out.
I would love that. Yeah. I have had a couple
of back injuries like that, and yeah, every one of
them feels so stupid. Like I I pulled my muscle

(01:01:59):
here at work opening a door once and I was
pushing the door open and I pulled the musle in
my back and for like ten seconds, I couldn't breathe.
And I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever done. Like,
we gotta get running ee, we gotta get you all
some lap pull down. You gotta get you some dumbell roads.
We gotta get you all some different things to build up.
You're a lot about you have an issue. We gotta
get you some app core work. Um, just next door,

(01:02:21):
you know, I think you can go see Maya. I
think my May's over there running the class. You can
go over to get your lat you can get stretched out.
It might be good for you. Perfect in all areas. Perfect,
yes works. You know it's funny. You get a kick
out of this. They all beening New York thing. Um,
when I messed my backup. Of course I talked about
it on the show I was doing, And so we
would go out to businesses and bring them lunch. It

(01:02:46):
was just the thing that we did. And so we
went to this It was like an automotive place, kind
of like a tire place. They'd fixed cars, that type
of thing. So they heard me talking about my back injury.
And I got there and they say, hey, man, we
heard you talking about your back injury. They brought me
might all is what they did as a joke, uh
with my my back injury. And it was just funny.
It was just a funny gag that they did. But

(01:03:09):
those were fun times, man, fun times. Okay, we gotta
get to Tiger Woods. Who is he had a great
round three? A man who has had injuries sort of
like Ryan Burr singer. You know, we'll get to him
around the corner and talk some ball as well. First though,
our main man, Nick Cope, who I think is impervious
back injuries or injuries of other not not totally, but

(01:03:30):
it is such a wake up call that that first
time you tweak your back, You're like, oh, I am
I'm not a kid anymore. I am fully and adult.
And after listening to you guys, I'm suddenly sitting up
much straighter in my chair right now. He was such
a little bit, So we we gotta avoid that. Yeah,
you mentioned Tiger Woods. He shot a four under sixties
seven in the third round at Rivieria yesterday. That's his

(01:03:52):
best round in relation apart since the Masters in November
of He's currently in a time for twenties six x.
John Ram is your leader entering the final round. He's
been red hot lately, a three shot lead at fifteen
under for Rom. Tiger is set to tee off about
eight fifteen am Pacific Times, about forty five minutes from now.

(01:04:13):
Rom and the other leaders. They will tee off at
ten am at NBA All Star Saturday. Mc McClung won
the Slam Dunk contest just days after the Sixers signed
him on a two way contract. He had three perfect
scores out of four. Second undrafted player to win the
Slam Dunk contest in the three point shootout, Damian Lillard

(01:04:33):
just getting by Buddy Healed. He made one more shot,
then healed in the final round twenty six to twenty five.
There so Lillard gets to win something, he said. There's
always a dream of his Stadium series game in the
NHL played at NC States Football Stadium, Carolina Hurricanes dispatch
the Capitals four to one. In the NFL. Some coaching

(01:04:54):
news this morning, a report from NFL Media says the
Cardinals are hiring Drew pets Ng as offensive coordinator. He
spent last season as the Browns quarterbacks coach. He worked
alongside Jonathan Gannon when they were both with the Vikings
a few years ago. College basketball, we had just one
upset in the top twenty five yesterday. That was Kentucky
beating number ten Tennessee in Lexington sixties six to fifty four.

(01:05:18):
The biggest game of the day saw number five Kansas
come back from down fifteen lane in the first half
and they run away from number nine Baylor eighties seven
seventy one rest of the top ten. Number one Alabama
dismantling Georgia. Number four U C. L A a a dominating
win over cal Narrow wins for number six Texas and
number seven of Virginia and number eight Arizona also a winner.

(01:05:41):
Now let's go back Brian No and Bucky Brooks. Thanks Vick,
good stuff, man. I'm Brian No. He's Bucky Brooks here
on Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Um, okay,
So we got Tiger Woods here, Bucky Tiger with a
great round three yesterday, four under at the Genesis Invitational.
That's his best round since. And we'll hear from Tiger

(01:06:04):
some of the things he had to say after that round.
But my takeaway is this, Bucky, I just think it's
a different perspective the way we look at Tiger Woods
right now, and it's refreshing because you go back years ago.
Tiger had fourteen major wins in two thousand eight. Right
by two thousand and eight, he had fourteen majors, and

(01:06:25):
it just seemed like it was a matter of time
until he surpassed Jack Nicholas, and year after year it
was just like what he wasn't doing you know what
I mean, like, he's not winning. What the hell? What's
going on? Why is he not winning? And now after
all these injuries like the Ryan ber Singer back injury,
you know, the Nie stuff, like all these things that
he's had and the car accident major injury almost crushed

(01:06:49):
his leg. Now that Tiger's back, we view him so
much differently. It's just, hey, man, Tiger, what around four
h like what around three four under? That's cool, but
we're not like he's in twenty sixth place. This isn't
good enough, This isn't Tiger Woods. It's so different now,
and it makes a lot of sense why it is.

(01:07:09):
My point is just it's refreshing that we're finally here
and we just we're appreciating when he does do well
instead of just going berserk when he doesn't. Our expectations
has completely changed. They have completely changed. And you know,
some of this is due to the fact that we've
always been um of late, like it's always hot take right,

(01:07:31):
and so hot take culture was always a take the
biggest star enlist polk holes in the game, and so
we did with Lebron, we did it with Tiger, we
do in anybody and everybody who's on top, and so
in doing that, what we do is we lose an
appreciation for how talented they are. And the best thing
that probably happened to us as golf fans is we
got a chance to see the Tour without Tiger and

(01:07:53):
it's different. It doesn't have as much sizzle. It doesn't
make you, um, come in on Sundays and watch it
from beginning to in because it lacks our power. And
I know, we put a bunch of different guys in
that number one spot and talked about this is the
next one or whatever, but none of these guys have
staying power. When you think about Tiger Woods winning when
he won those fourteen majors by the time, uh every

(01:08:14):
two thousand and eight, there's a level of dominance and
excellence that we grow to appreciate but also to stay
and so that made for compelling TV. That's why we
watch and since then we haven't had that, and golf
is a lot better when Tigers in the mix, regardless
of whether he's competing for the championship. There's something about
watching guys who have been great and just hoping that

(01:08:36):
we know, maybe this is the weekend that he just
dusted off, he turns back to clock and gives us
one of those memorable moments. And so I think that's
why everyone is excited to see Tiger just back, make
the cut, just participating, because we miss we missed that
flamboyance and that flair that we used to see from him.
Absolutely we do, and it's great to get a glimpse
of that. We saw it in round three. This is

(01:08:58):
one of the things that Tiger had to say after
his round yesterday. But I haven't walked and played a lot,
and so that's the challenge and the ebb and flow
of adrenaline. You know, I haven't had adrenaline in my
system in a while. Yeah. He also he expanded on
that with just getting around. He was Tiger talking about

(01:09:20):
that too. Well, the golf part I can do. It's
just a matter of whether I can get get from
point to point b Um. That's been the struggle part
of it. I can hit shots, I can hit balls
on the range, I can chip, I can put um,
it's just getting from point A point b has been
the biggest challenge. It's interesting, right, Bucky was one to
parts that we never think about it. Right, Let's so

(01:09:41):
let's be honest, like, I don't know how many I
don't know if many of us view golf as a
strenuous sport in terms of physical exertion. Uh. We talked
about the mental part, like how can be taxing in
those things, how you have to concentrate. Um, you know,
you're talking about sixty to seventy plus shots being able
to be locked in and focus, but physically moving around. Now,

(01:10:04):
I don't know. Are you a golfer? Do you do? You?
Do you like to get on the links? Are you?
I'm good at a miniature golf, Bucky terrible at like
adult golf. Okay, okay, so look I am. I am
not a great but I do enjoy going and playing
around and I do prefer to walk around. Uh. Some
of it is just like a little meddle thing, like
in terms of being able to reset. But when you

(01:10:26):
think about walking around, I don't know, sixty five hundred
or so, like like that's a lot. That's a lot.
And so for a tiger up and down to terrain
and doing all that, and you you listed out the injuries,
that is a lot for him. And so that's the part.
And who knows if you'll ever be able to get
physically in shape enough to be able to endure that

(01:10:48):
with all of his injuries. But it's one of the
things that we don't think about the fact that he's like, oh,
I can still swing it, like don't don't get twisted.
And so now I know, like if you're ever in
one of those things, like those celebrity things where you like, hey, Tye,
you want to play skins know because he can run
around on the thing. It is just the endurance part
of having to deal with the physical challenges that he
he has right now before you know, I can just

(01:11:12):
picture some golfers or some people like yelling at me
for this, But I'm just thinking about what we're saying here, Bucky,
and you've got arguably the greatest golfer ever in Tiger Woods, saying,
oh no, I the golf part isn't the problem over here.
The tough part is just walking around what I'm saying.

(01:11:32):
You're saying, hey, why why don't we just put the
cars man, Why don't we just let them let them
play in cars so we can see Tiger at his best.
I mean just that if you're talking about the ratings
aren't the same the interest isn't the same, nothing's the
same without Tiger. Why is it that the challenging part

(01:11:52):
is required where you gotta walk around do all this
like everybody being carts. I know some people will hate that,
but if you're golf off, isn't that a better situation
to be in instead of Tiger hanging it up a
year or two earlier because he's got to be walking
around all these hills and stuff. I bet I know
a tour they would engage in that if Tiger decided
to even want to go, If to live tour, we're

(01:12:13):
able to ye, I'll play if you let me ride
around the cart man. You know that, Tiger, you don't
even need a cart. We'll get you the premium sports car.
We don't even care about the grass. You know what,
We'll get you decked out over here. But right, does
that make a little bit of sense? I mean, maybe

(01:12:34):
maybe they should have more what we call exhibitions where
then you can use the card. It's not quote unquote competitive,
but we get a chance to see Tiger and some
of the other top guys play, and maybe they do
allow them to use a card to move around. That
might be fun. Remember when Casey Martin the golfer. Yes,

(01:12:54):
it was a huge thing, like disability. Yeah, this really
this serious leg him he lost one of his legs eventually,
but at the time he had this leg problem, and
it was like can he use a car? Should he
be allowed to use a car, And there were people like, no, no, no,
all these other people gotta walk around. You gotta walk
around too. I get it, but I don't know. Man.

(01:13:17):
It's just interesting hearing Tiger in that sound bite talking
about Oh no, man, I can still swing it, no problem.
The problem is getting from point A to point B.
My immediate thought is like, well, why is it required
to get from point A to point b? You know
what I mean? Yeah, I mean I'm uh. And there
there may be a conversation or two if you keep
looking at these ratings and they're drastically different with Tiger uh,

(01:13:38):
and we've seen it. Look, it's different with Tigers on
UH available on Sunday and when he's not. And so
maybe there's a little conversation privately about how we can
do some of these things to give him a chance
uh to play. Yeah, maybe interesting stuff. Okay, we got
a lot to do coming up next. This might be
the most important evaluation we got. Bucky Brooks breaks down

(01:14:01):
all these NFL prospects. This might be the most important
evaluation of Bucky brooks entire life. I don't want to
put too much pressure on the guy, but we're gonna
see what happens around the corner. Okay, I'm Brian, though,
he's Bucky Brooks. It's Fox Sports Sunday, right here on
Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Sunday, right here

(01:14:22):
on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian, No, he's Bucky Brooks.
Bucky does an amazing job evaluating soon to be NFL
talent all of these draft prospects. And so I had
a goofy idea, had a silly idea. I'm like, let's
do it live on the air where Bucky Brooks is

(01:14:43):
evaluating one of my old highlight tapes from high school. Okay, so, Bucky,
I played quarterback way way way back in the day.
And what I think would be funny is if you
not just give me, uh like the good. Mean, there
might be a couple of good, all the bad all man,
you're slow? No, what is there? Like that sort of thing,
But I think it would be fun Just tell me

(01:15:06):
what you see, you've got the video in front of
you going back to the LaSalle Lion shout out, and
like you might have to adjust for era Bucky because
this is uh, well before the advanced passing nowadays. Here
all right, So first things first, The first thing you
do when you go to a game and you evaluate
the quarterback, the first thing is you do what we
call a body description. So what you do is you

(01:15:28):
want to look at you want to asses us or whatever.
And I'm gonna say, I don't know what's up with
these socks that you're wearing, the little legs that you have.
You got like a little nie leave on your right um,
your jersey doesn't look completely filled out, and your shoulder
pads a very big four quarterback. So first thing I'm
gonna say, it's like, I don't know, maybe trying to
ask some size. You look a little light. How about

(01:15:49):
your way back then hundred seventy five eighty pounds if that? Yeah,
probably less? You're right light light. It's okay. So I'm
looking right hand, right handed thrower over the top delivery
about three quarters um. Right now, I'm saying you're you're
a little high school ish in terms of a baby

(01:16:10):
brought purty, A lot of checkdowns, a lot of a
lot of balls to the backs, a lot of swings.
I haven't seen you pushed the ball down the field
beyond five yards. Oh, there we go. So then we
got a deep shot wide open. Number twenty four. I
mean it's a blowout, but that what what's your debt?
A lot of slants? Yeah, you're you're kind of baby

(01:16:30):
purty is ball balls, balls coming out quick. I mean
you're hey, Brian, you don't like getting hit huh because
the ball is out. I mean it's one to I
mean it is out because it's it's a quick rhythm
passing game. That is an emphasis on quick. Don't know
how much rhythm I mean. And number thirty four, you're back,

(01:16:50):
my guys, store if you threw for three thousand yards
he might have accumulated for I mean, it is a
lot of swings. Thirty went twenty four, your main guys.
A lot of dump downs. Holy smokes, Hopefully there's something
pushes there. Rule against press coverage out here, like what

(01:17:11):
I mean, they say, are you are you saying this?
I mean this is it is literally like a flag
football contest. It's swings slams and swings. Maybe it was
his own coverage in Indiana at that time. Oh, there
we go. We see a deep shot. Nice throw. You
dropped that one down to Chimney. That's that's not man.

(01:17:34):
The ball is out though, Okay, it's yeah. Did your
coach did y'all do anything beyond three step drops? Because
anything that seems like one to three junior year, we
didn't have five step until like senior year. I don't
mean no play action, a lot of quick rhythm stuff.
Ball is out, I will say. I will say the

(01:17:55):
ball is family accurate. Oh are y'all running the beer? Brian? No,
just ran. He just kept the ball on a verer
option play. Holy smokes, look at you. I think I
was just too slow to get it to the running back.
I think it was a bust actually on that one. Yeah, no,
you just threw a bomb the number one, number one

(01:18:16):
long strides it in four ends rollo. That was the
only time we ran play action. He was wide open
on that, like you kind of fake to sweep and
spun around and just threw it up. But it was bought.
Not not bad. Okay, So oh man, you're gonna see
a bad haircut here coming up here, this this might
ruin the draft after holy what? Okay, so Brian, So

(01:18:39):
there's the thing uh in in in the scouting world
where they call it like the face test, right, and
so franchise quarterbacks normally have like a great face, like
normally your your franchise quarterbacks are like great looking. Do
so when you think about like Tom Brady, you think
about Jimmy Garoppolo, they have great face. Um now, I

(01:19:00):
can't say anything about your facial features. But this haircut, this,
this part, this part is is deep. It was angry.
It was an angry part. And the comb over is
so it's almost gene Katie ish. I don't know if
people gene Katie from it's really flopped over. It looks

(01:19:21):
like it's as jet black as gene Katie's here. Yeah,
so you know, on on the scale, we would give
you some developmental potential. Uh maybe draftable in a quick
for them offense that is like all checkdowns. But the
man your cohanger show does give me a problem. Draftable though, draftable,

(01:19:42):
gonna have to hit the weight room. Gonna have to
hit the weight room. Good stuff, fuck you alright, Coming
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All right, Bucky? How about this? So, Kevin Durant and
Kyrie Irving, they have been defending their trade requests that
we just saw over the last couple of weeks, and
it's been an interesting topic. It's NBA All Star weekend
and the NBA Commissioner, Adam Silver said that public trade

(01:20:47):
demands our quote unquote corrosive to the system. Okay, that's
what Adam Silver says. Now, I thought this was at
um the All Star festivities. So what Kevin Rant had
to say in response to that check this out. I
don't think it's bad for the League's bringing more ays
to the league, more people are more excited. The tweets
that I got in the news, hits that we got

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from me being traded, Kyrie being traded, just bring more
attention to the league. And that's really what makes you
money is when you get more attention. So, um, I
think it's great for the league to be honest. Team
has been trading players and making acquisitions for a long
time now. When a player can you know, uh kind
of dictate where he wants to go and leaving free

(01:21:32):
agency demand, the trade is just part of the game now.
So I don't think it's a bad thing. It's bringing
more and more excitement to the game. Okay, so I'll
throw it to you, Bucky. Are you more team Durant
with what he just said right there or are you
more team Adam Silver where he says public trade demands
are corrosive to the system? Ah? Man, this is tough. Um.

(01:21:52):
Probably more partial to Adam Silver and pro you know,
team just in terms of you don't necessarily want uh
your guys asking out all the time because one of
the things that you've done, uh the NBA is different
than the National Football League. The National Football League is
Soldjohn Uh, the jersey, the helmet, UH, the team as

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opposed to the player. The NBA is built on the player.
And so you don't want players running to the mic
and always asking out because it just makes it hard
to build a level of connuity amongst the fan base.
And so all those Brooklyn Vans that bought season tickets
or um bought packages hoping to see Kyrie and Kevin
Durant where they come up short. And so now how
does the league, you know, satisfy them? You know, what

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are they going to do to field those seats when
you don't have those players there? And so I understand
why the league wants those things that, Hey, keep it quiet.
If you're gonna make these requests, let's not go public
with him because it does impact the bottom line. I
also see Katie east point, but I think the bottom
line is more effective when the player goes public as
opposed to the news hitting the market. Yeah, now, I
hear you. It's interesting because with what k D said

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had I totally understand it and I agree with it.
If the team can just trade you whenever they want to, basically, well,
why is it a bad thing that the player has
similar or equal power to say I want out. As
far as that goes, I'm with him on that. The
thing here that Adam Silver is underlining, and your underlining

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as well, is public trade demands. It's one thing to
go to your team and say, like Matthew Stafford with
the Lions, right like, hey, I I think we should
move on. He didn't go to the the media and
say I'm out of here. Give me out of I
don't want to be here, because what's the difference. It
impacts the value you can get in return. If Kyrie

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Irving goes public and says I went out of here,
I'm not getting the long term extension in Brooklyn that
I desire. That hurts Brooklyn's ability to get as much
value for the guy if they do trade him. So
I get it. It's part of what players do now
to force their way out. But the point is when
it's publicized, it does hurt the team that they're on

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what they can get in return for that guy. That's
what Adam Silver is talking about publicly making those trade demands. Yeah,
I mean, he's certainly talking about like a conversation and
draft hall and and whatever it is that you're getting
from the team that is interested inquiring the player. But
I'm sure he also is talking about the fans, because
you don't want a fan base that's apathetic to the team,

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you know, And you have to be careful when your
players because you have to remember the overwhelming majority of
people that are uh buying the tickets and doing things
are employees and they don't have the same luxuries to
be able to go to their boss say you know what, man,
I don't like the way you treat me. I don't
like the way this is. I'm ready to go. And

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so what happens is you can have the perception of
looking like entitled little breads. You don't want your way,
you take your ball and you run. And so it's
that fine line between we want to keep the um
I guess, the ideal view of what sports are while
also maintaining the business part of it. And so what
Adam Silver is doing is he's trying to make sure

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that it's always business before his personal That's absolutely right.
And we also have to remember that Adam Silver, like Goodell,
is employed by the team owners. And so you know,
ownership is in his ear, Like, man, are you serious
right now? Yeah, Kevin Durant was in the middle of
a four year, nearly two hundred million dollar contract with

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the Nets. Kyrie was making about thirty nine million dollars
in his final year with the Nets. And Kyrie is
making it public. And you know, over the years, there's
been plenty of players that have done this publicly. You know,
ownership is in Adam Silver's ear, and if that's who
he's employed by, that's who he's gonna side with. And
he might honestly think that's what's best for the league

(01:25:53):
as a whole as well. But I think he's always
gonna lean on an issue like this. I think he's
gonna lean on the ownership side because that's who's in
his ear and that's who's being his checks. Also, you
have a CBA negotiation that is upcoming. Uh. You know,
they can opt out of the agreement by the end
of March. Uh. You know, owners are not upset with
the quote unquote player empowerment movement, uh in terms of

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all these players asking out and so they're trying to
put a kabash on that some way, shape or form,
and so what you want to do is make sure
that you don't want to kill the golden goose. Right,
everyone's making a ton of money, the league is kind
of popping and flourishing. You just want to make sure
you don't you don't mess it up. And so I
am sure this is kind of setting the floor for
what is going to be probably a very testy negotiation

(01:26:40):
when it comes to trying to extend the c b
A from the National Basketball Association. I always love the
you know the or what question? You know? Like you, uh,
I don't know. If you've been in a parking lot
and there have been two people and they don't see
eye to eye, maybe someone took the parking spot first,
and uh, you know, someone says like or what like

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what are you gonna do about it? You know what
I mean? So like that point, Bucky, I hear you.
Ownership would love to do away with these public trade demands.
But what are they gonna do about it? Let's say
that it's in the new cb A, players can't make
public trade demands. What if they do, what do they
get penalized? Like? Is it a fine? Like it might

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be better off for a player like Kyrie Irving, whatever
the fine is for making a public trade request. I mean,
he's better off taking that fine and still forcing his
way out if that's what he wants to do. So
I don't know how you could put it in the
c b A where we really do get rid of this,
you know what I'm saying, Like, how would you put
that in the c b A. Look, it'd be interesting

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because I'm sure they're gonna put some poison pills in
these things, because as much as everyone has celebrated player empowerment,
for the owners, man, it's not it's not what they want.
They don't want to have to deal with that. Remember,
they're used to controlling the product, controlling the players in
the air, regard, controlling player movement, when now you have
all these other things that are going on, the backlash

(01:28:08):
from people and teams, constructing these super teams, all of
that stuff, actors in and so this would be a
very contentious, uh negotiation that we'll see in the coming months.
But yeah, Adam Silver is probably trying to kind of
assess some parameters, established the floor on what we're want
to talk about. When those guys go back and forth.
I would love the rule of it was a public

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trade request there for it's setting stone. He can't leave
a good luging that the CB Kyrie makes a public
trade requests. Well, you just sealed your faith. You're with
the Nets for the rest of the season, you know
what I mean? Like, I would love to hear what
they come up with. I'm Brian No, he's Bucky Brooks
here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get back to ball.

(01:28:50):
How about this Derek Carr this weekend visiting the New
York Jets, former Las Vegas radas quarterback. He's been released
by the Silver and Black. He's on the open market
visiting the Jets. What do you think of the fit? Bucky?
First off, if he were to go over there to
game Greenland, do you like it d Car with the Jets? Well,

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that's from there is some familiarity with Derry Carr and
some of the coaches there. Todd Downing, who is a
past game coordinator for the Jets. He just came over
from Sinnesse Titans. He was a former quarterback coach and
offensive coordinator for Derrek Carr back when he was with
the Oakland Raiders, and so he understands who he's bringing
in the building and what they're doing. The one thing

(01:29:33):
that I worry about with Derry Carr going to New
York is he tough enough to deal with all the
things that come along with playing in New York, the pressure,
the cotton scrutiny, all of those things. This is a
different environment. It is certainly not like playing in Oakland.
It definitely isn't like playing in Las Vegas. Is he
ready to handle that? Because when he comes over, he's
stepping into a team that feels like they are quarterback

(01:29:56):
away from being a Super Bowl contender. Now, whether that's
real or not, that's what the expectations will be. And
if they don't upgrade it offensive line, he has to
play with a bunch of young wire receivers. Can Derek
Carr elevate the squad? You're talking about a guy who
has only led his team to we lead him to
two postseason appearances, but only really played in one postseason.

(01:30:18):
Is he that guy? That's the question that I have.
Is he really that guy is capable of elevating his
squad and helping him reach higher heights? Yeah? I think
a lot of things. I'll try to go cliffs notes
on you here, because the first question, is he tough
enough for that environment, I think. So I would go
back to the disastrous year where Jon Gruden is ousted

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because of the emails being leaked, Henry Ruggs accidentally commits murder, right,
and he fought through all of that stuff. That's a
lot to fight through in one year, and they were
a playoff team that season. So I think that Derek
Carr could handle the New York media and all the
expectations over there. The other part is, I think it's
refreshing that we're looking at Derek Carr differently now because

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when he was in the a f C West, same
division as Mahomes and Herbert, and we're looking at him
compared to the best quarterbacks in the game beyond the
division as well, Allen, you know, Joe Burrow, whoever you
want to throw in there. That's how we always looked
at Derek Carr. Now that he might go to the Jets,
it's switched. You're looking at what Derek Carr brings to

(01:31:23):
the table, how much better he is than a guy
like Zach Wilson. So I like that part of it.
But the other thing to swing another way is how
much better is he gonna be with the Jets. We
know that the team could be better because their defense
is way better. The Jets defense way better than the Raiders.
But look at the weapons that he has to throw too,

(01:31:44):
and compare them to what he just laughed with the Raiders.
You've got some stuff to work with. Garrett Wilson was
very good young receiver, offensive Rookie of the Year. But
he's not Davonte Adams like Tyler Conklin. He's all right,
He's not Darren Waller, you know what I mean. And
so Derek Carr last year. His numbers were okay, but

(01:32:04):
he was twenty four and passer rating Bucky. He's looking
up at guys named Mariota, Jacoby Brissette and Taylor Heineke,
you know what I mean. And he's surrounded by a
lot of talent. He's gonna be surrounded by less talent
with the Jets. And so even though the defense is
better and they might go further, I don't know that
he's gonna put up numbers that are much better than
what he just did. There's something to be said for that.

(01:32:26):
He's a nice story. A lot of people love the story.
They love Derry carry. Look, he's been one of the
guys that um for whatever reason, like he's resonated with
um people in the football world. But when you go
back and you really do the deep dive, like what
is he really delivered? You know, one year he played
at a high level, he had the broken leg right
at the end they played a playoff game. Uh uh

(01:32:50):
cook former Michigan State. Oh yeah, had he end up
playing in the game and they lose. And then you
had you know a season ago when they go to
Cincinnati and they lose down the stretch. But you know,
Derek Carr, you look at his record, Mandy, and I
know people get mad like quarterback wins on a team
stead Well, I know we judged the quarterback based on
whether they win the Super Bowl or not. So it

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has to be something The quarterback has to be a
big part of the solution. And is Derek Carr that guy?
This would be the first time that we'll have a
chance to see. All right, Derek, let's see if you're
really a forty million dollar quarterback, they can put the
squad on your back and lead them. I don't know,
I have some reservations about whether he's able to do it. Yeah,
it's it's the difference of if you look at this

(01:33:30):
past Super Bowl. It's one thing to look at Jalen
Hurts who accounted for four touchdowns and over three hundred
passing yards and say, hey man, the defensive holding call
was a little shaky, he didn't get the ball back.
That that's a good game to point to where you
could say not his fault, right, But the the Derek
Carr playoff game a year ago against the Bengals and

(01:33:54):
he throws an interception to Jermaine Pratt when they had
a chance at the end, that that goes to Derek Carr.
For sure, it does go to him. And here's the
thing when we look at the quarterbacks and we look
at the change in nature of court, what is Derek
Carr right now? Is he a top ten quarterback? Is
he top fifteen? Okay? So if he's top fifteen, so

(01:34:18):
we're seeing top fifteen, like they're with thirty two teams
in the league, So that's right around midpoint. That's average.
Am I paying top of the market money for an
average quarterback? Like? That's where we have to get to
because if I pay him forty million dollars, that means
I can't pay other spots and if I can't pay
other spots, is he going to elevate it? Um My

(01:34:39):
podcast partner Danny Jeremiah, we've always talked about On Move
to six, we talked about quarterbacks are in two different categories.
They're either trucks or trailers. Trucks they either carry the
squad trailers the squad carries them. What is Derek Carr?
Is he a truck or trailer? If he goes to
the Jets, we'll find out real quick which category deserves
to be in. Man, if he's a truck, he's like

(01:35:02):
a diesel, you know what I mean. We don't have
hauling capabilities quite like the other dude. He's not a
he's not he's a ranger. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
not a heavy guy. Yea. But that's the true question.

(01:35:25):
We just saw it, Bucky, we saw in the Super Bowl.
I don't know why more teams don't try to mimic
what the Chiefs did. I know that there aren't. Patrick
mahomes is running around on Earth readily. But the concept,
I'm surprised that hasn't been copied, where you're like, Okay,
we're good at quarterback, let's try to be special. And

(01:35:46):
I think Derek Carr he falls into the good category,
but he's not special. So if you're the Jets, why
aren't you trying to be special at quarterback instead of
just trying to be good? You know what I mean?
But I think and they're comparing it to Zach Wilson
and like, can we just get someone serviceable back here? Yeah?
And that's the thing, and that's the thing that you
have to be careful of because if you pay big

(01:36:07):
money for good, if it come and get you, because
when when you're the Jets, see because one thing that
I would do if if I'm part of the Jets,
let's look at the AFC landscape and the quarterbacks that
it did that you have to knock off to beat him,
Like we're talking about Instanteina's but no, it's two quarterbacks.
So in your division, you gotta deal with Josh Allen
out West, you gotta deal with Patrick Mahomes. You have
to deal with Justin Herbert. You have Joe Burrow who

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is in Cincinnati and they've been the back to back
championship games. Uh. You have Lamar Jackson if he's deal
with the Baltimore Ravens who's played at the m v P.
So right now we're already talking about six or so
quarterbacks that you have to deal with. And I'm not
even talking about Russell Wilson because I don't know if
Sean Payton can fix him or not. But that's another one.

(01:36:51):
Is Derek Carr worthy of being in that conversation over
top of those guys, because right now, if we ranked him,
he doesn't rank over any of those guys except for
maybe Russell Wilson said, Yeah, I think it's a pretty
decent fight between Derek Carr and Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, right,
like yeah, like that's what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah.

(01:37:11):
F one alright, coming up next is being undersized a
big concern. We'll dive into that. I'm Brian No. He's
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Bucky Bryce Young, Alabama quarterbacks soon to be drafted here.
Curious where you come out on this guy because he's
uber talented. But you mentioned earlier in the show under

(01:37:56):
six feet tall, about a hundred eighty five pounds. We
had some fun with you evaluating my high school film.
It's hard to stay healthy at slightly lesser size in
high school, let alone the NFL. So it's being undersized
a big concern in your eyes, because it's sure is
in mind. So now I have to like, now, what

(01:38:18):
what I'm worried about. I'm worried about being on TV
and I'm worried about being asked to talk about Bryce Young,
and I'm worried about calling him a young Brian. No,
I'm really worried about I'm really worried about that. So
I'm gonna trying. I'm gonna try and forget that I
just evaluated your tape, um, and I'm gonna try and
make sure I give him his flowers and not call him,

(01:38:39):
you know, like like baby. No. Um, yeah, No, it's
it's a concern, and it's amazing concern because you haven't
seen uh anyone of that stature play. And I know
people say, well, oh baby can get up to one
to two hundred. But I think the big thing is
I talked about one of the first things you do
as a scout, You go and you do the body types.
You look at how they're built, look at see from

(01:38:59):
a frame standpoint, how much weight can he had. I
mean when you see him, look, he's a slender kid, Like,
even if he's two hundred, like, he's not going to
ever be a guy that is to thirty that can
hold it. Uh, He's not a Russell Wilson type. He's
just built different, and so is he going to be
able to like stay healthy. And when we've seen smaller
guys in our league play the position, it's hard for

(01:39:22):
them to stay um up. Think about what we've seen
from to a tongue about la. I mean, brock Purdy
is six ft, but he's two hundred eighteen twenty pounds.
He gets hurt. And so even though he's talented and
maybe the most talented quarterback in this class, that's gonna
be a serious debate because if you take him, you

(01:39:43):
understand the risk of the position because you can't keep
him in bubble rap, he's going to get hit. And
I know he played in the SEC and he dealt
with all of that and and played in splendid fashion.
But it's a major concern. It's gonna be hard for
some old school evaluators to get past the frame and
so you would be on the board, but it'd be
hard for them to really consider him as a franchise

(01:40:03):
quarterback at the top of the board where you have
to take him, no doubt about it, and on top
of it to possibly trade up to get the guy,
knowing the price tag that it would be to do so.
We talked about the Colts and Jim Rsey said, I
like the Alabama quarterback. If they think about getting bold
and moving up to the top of the draft to
guarantee that they can get Bryce Young, if that's the

(01:40:25):
quarterback that they fall in love with, that's a heavy
price tag. Are you willing to spend that type of
draft capital to get a guy who is just flat
out undersized? And think about recent NFL stuff Bucky This
past season, Lamar Jackson gets hurt again for the second
straight year, and it recks the Raven season to a

(01:40:47):
tongue of Voloa look at the Dolphins if to a
tongue of Voloa is healthy throughout the season. He missed
the better part of six games and the playoff game
that they almost beat Buffalo on the road with the
rookie seventh round court her back. If he's healthy throughout,
we might be having a different conversation about how far
the Dolphins advanced in the playoffs. You gotta take that

(01:41:08):
into account, and there's just there's less margin for error.
If you think about Josh Allen, the Bill's quarterback, in
his frame, some of the hits that Toua took this
past year, Josh Allen probably just bounces right up from
and you might see that. The difference between c J.
Stroud in the NFL and his frame compared to Bryce

(01:41:30):
Young and his frame, it's just something that you absolutely
have to weigh when you're trying to figure out which
quarterback you should go with. Yeah, it is something that
you have to weigh and consider. And you know, it's
funny because you've heard analysts made the comparison with Bryce
Young and Steph Curry. I don't know if you remember,
do you remember what happened with Steph Curry early in
his career you know, early in his career, Steph Curry

(01:41:50):
had to deal with an assortment of injuries. Oh, his
ankles were brutal. Yeah, right Now, he eventually blossom and
became to Steph Curry that we know now that would
go down as one of the as players that we've
ever seen in our lifetime. But it took a long
time for Steph Curry to be able to do an
In fact, they talked about moving him and trading him
and all this other stuff in It wasn't until they

(01:42:11):
came in and put a system that allowed them to
play differently that Steph Curry was able to flourish. Are
you going to have the patients and the creativity to
do the same thing with Bryce Curry? That's the thing
that I will worry about. Uh. It's a lot easier
to go with the guy that is bigger, Uh has
more the prototypical stuff than the outlier. Uh. And so

(01:42:32):
that's that's the debate that everyone has to have as
we come in through the combine and as we get
closer to the draft. Man, no doubt, more draft stuff
right around the corner. And UH, just building off of that,
a lot of different directions to go and We're gonna
go in a great direction right now, though, Bucky, We're
gonna go on the inner state of Nick and Cope

(01:42:53):
and get caught up in the sports world. What's going on, Nick, Well,
we're keeping an eye on Tiger Woods. He just birdie
the par whole, the part five first hole as he
got his fourth round underway at Riviera. So he's currently
at four under for the tournament. He's not in contention.
John rom is your leader entering the final round. He
is at fifteen under and he's got a three shot

(01:43:15):
lee that at the Riviera country Club in Los Angeles.
Some NFL coaching news and this report just coming across
from ESPN moments ago that their own NFL analyst Rex
Ryan had another interview with the Broncos for their defensive
coordinator job. He is considered to be one of the
favorites for the job. Also in the mix is former

(01:43:35):
Denver head coach Vance Joseph, so we'll see how that
progresses in the coming week. A report from NFL media
earlier this morning saying the Cardinals are hiring Drew pets
Ng as their offensive coordinator. Spent last season as the
Browns quarterbacks coach. And previously worked alongside Jonathan Gannon with
the Vikings. At NBA All Star Saturday, Mac McClung stole

(01:43:56):
the show in the slam Dunk Contest. He had three
perfect scores and just earlier in the week was signed
bhy the Sixers on a two way contract. Damian Lillard
won the three point Contest, just beating out Tyrese Haliburton
and Buddy Heal. In college basketball, just one upset in
the top twenty five yesterday, Kentucky knock it off Number
ten Tennessee sixty six fifty four, had Number five Kansas

(01:44:19):
erase a thirteen point halftime deficit and runaway from number
nine Baylor eight seven seventy one, and the rest of
the top ten. No drama. For number one Alabama and
number four u c l A. They were big winners.
Tight wins, however, for number six Texas and number seven Virginia.
Number eight Arizona a double digit winner as well. Brian
Bucky back to you guys, great stuff. Nick. Appreciate that

(01:44:40):
it's Brian now and Bucky Brooks here with you on
Fox Sports Radio. I'm selfishly rooting for Rex Ryan to
be the Broncos defensive coordinator Bucky. Just the entertainment value
aspect of it. Uh, if you look at Rex Ryan
versus Vance, Joseph Jeff nothing football related, just entertainment wise.
It's not a fair fight. And to be slightly awkward,

(01:45:01):
just a little awkward, advanced Joseph the former head coach
of the Broncos now being the defensive coordinator of the Broncos.
Just a little bit right. I mean, I would think
you'd be a little awkward. The only the only reason
why it might work. He's had a lot of ties
to the area, played at Colorado, former head coach there
has been there a few different times, so maybe he's like,
look from a family consideration, that makes sense. Yes, I

(01:45:23):
don't necessarily like the way the organization treated me in
the past. Different ownership, better situation. I get a chance
to do what I love. I'm hey coach, I'm the
de coordinator, So who knows. Maybe works. You know what's funny,
we never really talk about it like that. We always
talk about, Hey, what's a good job for a head coach,
whether it's the NFL or college football. We're always talking

(01:45:46):
about it like that. We rarely talk about for a
defensive coordinator. What's a great gig and what isn't But
being that Broncos defensive coordinator that is an outstanding gig.
They have a lot of talent to work with. They've
been good for a while. So whether it's Rex, Ryan Vance,
Joseph for somebody else, that's a great gig to get.

(01:46:06):
If you can be the de coordinator of the Broncos
under Sean Payton, and who knows what Sean Payton is
gonna do with Russ. If he can get Russ back
in working order, there you got even more to work with.
So really interesting to see what happens with Denver. That's
a big boomer Bus type team there very much. So, uh, look,
it's amazing. A year ago we were talking about this

(01:46:28):
team challenging the kN City Cheese for supremacy in the division,
maybe their super Bowl team with Russ. Uh, there's a
lot to go back. The one thing that we do know,
Champagne is great with quarterbacks and he is doing his
previous role with Fox. He talked about what he would
do with Russ and how they would try and find
a way for him to just play the hits, so
finding his best plays and recycling those plays over and
over and over again. When now we get a chance

(01:46:50):
to see it, and we'll see what he does with
that that opportunity to take Russell Wilson maybe help him
get back to being the player that we remember. I'm
so curious to see how that shape out, because I
just I don't think we're gonna see the Russ from
from here on out. I just don't think he's gonna
be that bad from here on out. I don't know

(01:47:12):
it's gonna be vintage Russ again. I just can't see
him being that bad going forward. Yeah, it'll be interesting
to see which Russ shows up. You know. Um the
thing about Russell, uh, has he been humbled enough to
come back as a different player, you know, to come
back as a guy that is more compliant with how

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you know, because the way he views himself might be
different in the way the coaches view him and how
he plays. And before he had that currency where you
could say, hey, Russ, we're gonna let you do your thing. Well,
now he doesn't coming off that year. He has to
buy into what Sean Payton wants. And you also have
a different type coach that is going to challenge Russell
to play at a at a different level. So maybe
we do get the best of Russell. I don't know

(01:47:54):
what that is because I don't think he can move
like he used to move. And if he can't move,
I don't know if he ever was good enough to
be a guy that can strictly deal from the pocket.
He's not Drew Brees in terms of like a timing
rhythm player. Maybe he can develop that, but he hasn't
shown that throughout his career. Yeah, you know, we always
talk about cornerbacks having short memories. If they get burned

(01:48:16):
for a touchdown, just have to have a short memory.
I hope that Russell Wilson has a short career memory,
meaning that if he looks at himself as the version
instead of the guy who wanted super Bowl and put
up all these numbers with the Seahawks and accomplished all
these things, want a bunch of games, come back, wins
all that stuff. If he looks at himself less as

(01:48:39):
hey man, I've had a great career and more as
I sucked last year and I gotta do everything possible
to make sure that doesn't happen going forward. If he
views himself like that, I's got a great chance to
be a lot better. Yeah, I think the other thing
he has to figure out because you remember in Seattle,
the movement was let Russ cook. Russ campaign for more
opportunity us to throw the ball around because he wanted

(01:49:01):
to be viewed like Tom Brady and Drew Brees and
those guys have viewed. These guys that carried the team.
Even though it had been demonstrated over and over again,
the Seattle Seahawks were better when they had a balance attack,
when they ran the football and they set up opportunities
for Russell to throw off play action and those things.
The Denver Broncos, what kind of offense does Seanpagne put in?
Does he go all the way back and look at

(01:49:22):
what was successful for Russ in Seattle and say, oh, Russ,
we're gonna let you be a complimentary piece to a
dominant running game and set you have to throw off
play actions so you'll get the accolades for winning. But
this isn't going to be about Russell thorn to ball
forty five times and everyone is amazed at how you
carried us. Now we've seen it. Last year, you try

(01:49:43):
to carry it, you couldn't do it. So now this year,
we're gonna be ald a more balanced team and maybe
then you can get back to the level of success
that you had in Seattle. I think it makes a
lot more sense to attack it that way. The question
is does it blow up in their face the way
it did the Green Bay Packers this past season because
they were built just like what you said, running game

(01:50:03):
defense not as good as Denver, but kind of just
mixing Aaron Rodgers in there instead of, like you said,
being pulled by him as if he's a HEMI engine truck,
you know. And it did not work, and it might
not work in Denver either. But I think that's the
best approach, is what you just explained. It has me
the best approach. And you put the artists on Russell Wilson.
He has to improve because liking and I, they're married

(01:50:25):
to him. They paid him big books. He's there, so
you gotta figure out a way to get him more. Hey,
how about this getting back to the draft. I'm so
interested in this as well. If you look at the
Houston Texans or any of these other teams towards the
top of the draft, they need a quarterback, Like, don't
don't fall into this. Davis Mills is the future that

(01:50:45):
he's not. Okay, they need a quarterback. The question is this,
did they go for a QB this year or do
they say, you know what, just not sold for whatever
reason on Bryce Young, little, undersized c J. Strouded. I
don't know. They either trade down, get more assets, or

(01:51:06):
pick another position with that number two overall pick and
they look toward next year's draft with Caleb Williams from
USC Drake May from North Carolina. Do you think the
Texans or another team that needs a quarterback might say,
we're gonna defer to the second half if you will,
We're gonna wait until the next draft instead of this
one to address that. That might not be a bad idea.

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There might not be a bad take if you don't
If you don't have a quarterback who's graded at the
level where you picking, then you don't take him. There's
some good players in this draft on the other side
of the ball, Will Anderson, Jalen Carter, Uh. That could
be a conversation. Let's get great at once side of
the ball and figure it out. You don't have to
force to fit at quarterback. Now, somebody ultimately has to

(01:51:51):
do it. And this is potentially where free agency could
come in. This is where Jimmy Garoppolo's relationship with Nick
Casario could come and play from their time together in
New England. Those things are available. Maybe we get a
short term solution because remember Damiko Ryan's is also coming
from San Francisco. So maybe get a short term solution

(01:52:12):
to allow us to build up the defense, and then
we come back and find the quarterback. Maybe it's next year.
You're like, you're saying, but now, I don't want to
suck enough to be picking one or two next year
where we have to get Caleb Williams. But yeah, it
definitely should be in consideration. You know what's interesting too,
is if you compare two teams in the same division,
Houston Texans Indianapolis Colts. Texans have the two pick, Colts

(01:52:36):
have the fourth pick, and I think they're in completely
different zip codes, if you will, because if you look
at the Colts, they've had all of these older stop
gap quarterbacks from you know, uh, Carson Wentz, Matt Ryan,
Philip Rivers, and so that town collectively is like not

(01:52:59):
another veteran. Please, for the love of all that's holly,
get a rookie quarterback. In there. There's a lot more
pressure to do that right here, right now then there
is with the Houston Texans. What's interesting, though, is it
still comes down to if you go that direction, do
you truly, honestly believe this is the guy that can

(01:53:21):
get you there and be the face of your franchise,
be a franchise quarterback, or do you just want that
to be the case, Because if you, deep down don't
believe it, you might be doing more harm than good
to just say, well, we gotta get a rookie though,
and hopefully it works out. You might be causing a
lot more damage taking that approach. Yeah, you might be
causing a lot more damage taking that approach. Um, if

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you go in, if you're going get the young guy,
you still gotta live through the groin pains. You still
gotta figure out how you're gonna get this going. Um
can't shanet I can take a young guy and get
them going immediately. See the difference is when they got
Javon Hurst. Jason Hurst wasn't a rookie. He's still have
been in the league a little, but he going through
the practice routine of those things. But a rookie fresh

(01:54:02):
out of college depending on the rookie that you play.
How much college experience does he have, number of snaps
that he logged, number of things that he's been exposed to.
All of that factors into the decision. It also factored
into the preparation and what you can expect when they play.
So there's a lot of things to consider, uh, when

(01:54:22):
it comes to to that pager. Yeah, without a doubt,
the Coots have to get a young quarterback. It doesn't
matter when he's gonna be ready to play. Decisions man,
big time decisions over there. And it's not like Chris
Ballard has a long leash if you will to have
just a horrible season this year without any promise for
the future. So I can't wait to see what they do.

(01:54:45):
The Texans do these quarterback needy teams at the top
of the draft. It's gonna be a lot of fun, alright,
cover it up next. It's not a hot take if
the man is telling the truth. An interesting story on
the way, I'm Brian No, He's Bucky Brooks. Keep it
locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. Brian No, He's
Bucky Brooks here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, Bucky,

(01:55:06):
what's your favorite non football sport to follow and talk about.
Um in the baseball and basketball, I would probably lean
towards basketball, okay, but baseball it was a close running there.
Huh yeah, very close. Very who's your baseball team? Oh,
I mean you're talking about the Dodgers. Man. Guy, who's

(01:55:30):
your basketball team? Uh? Now, this is weird. Um. In
the NBA it would be Miami, it would be the
Heat Um. I know, like, I feel like I'm they
jump around guy like. But I didn't grow I grew
up in North Carolina, so we didn't have all the
sports on the teams I grew up. The only team
that was locally was like Baltimore in Atlanta where the
closest teams, and then the Hornets didn't come until I

(01:55:52):
was like at the end of high school. So I
get it. I get it. Hey, man, I'm from South Bend, Indiana,
and I've always loved the Miami Dolphins. I have no
idea why. It's just always been that love the uniforms. A. J.
Dewey was my guy. I'm dating myself years. I remember A. J. Dewey.

(01:56:12):
Remember the game he had in the playoffs? Yeah? You
do remember some A J. Dewey actually touchdown machine back
in the day. All right, we gotta throw it to
Nick cop here real fast. Got some news for us, Yeah,
not super breaking news, but Bucky your heat. They just
signed Kevin Love. He got the buy out done yesterday
with the Cavaliers. He was the favorite. Miami was the
favorite to land him. They were talked that the Sixers

(01:56:35):
were involved as well. He he apparently met with both
teams and he will go to Miami. Now, well, I
know why that happened, Nick, because mc McClung is on
the seventies six. They don't need him anymore, even though
he's a guard and Kevin loves a forward. But I
mean when he can leap that high, he's he goes
from about six two to he plays about six tents. Yeah,

(01:56:56):
the future is McClung. We don't have room for Kevin Love.
And really there, how about that's a nice get for
your your Miami Heat there, Bucky, not bad, I know,
like maybe his shots on the outside, ad Lisson Jay buckets,
you know. And I'll tell you what the Miami Heat.
They play like the Iowa Hawkeyes in college football. You know,

(01:57:17):
they just played defense and sometimes the offense is just
a freaking eye sore. It's like old school, like nineties.
Remember the Knockdown Dragon. I know, you do the playoff
series between the Nicks and the Miami Heat where p J.
Brown is hip tossing Charlie Ward. It's like a flashback
to some of those games. I see these scores under
a Hunter, I'm like, wow, what is happening over here

(01:57:39):
with Miami. You know, it's funny because uh, I think
that's depart that you like is, particularly when you had
a chance to watch the team in the bubble, like
the toughness, to to nasty, all the other stuff. And I
I don't know, we have like free movement and stuff
like that in the NBA. But I do kind of
miss those old boys series where he had a good
playoff out and some one down and you have a

(01:58:01):
little blood. I know it. I missed that. I missed
that parter basketball. The beating that Jordan took against the
Pistons in those playoffs series. Oh my gosh, like you'd
have players getting thrown out these days for doing the
same thing. It's just a different day, all right. How
about this? Did you catch Jabari Smith of the Houston Rockets?

(01:58:21):
He had some interesting things to say about playing Michael
Jordan's one on one. Check this out, Bucky me and
my Michael Jordan. Y me. How old is he? I
think he early early six years. He's not beating me
right now. He's six today, Today's birthday, Okay, Happy back day,
m J. I'm I'm beating you in one on one right?

(01:58:42):
Getting might make something, I mean, but I don't know.
I don't think he need not beat me. For sure.
If a six year old beat me, I need to
I need to hang it up. Fuckey. He's totally right.
He is so right here. I love some of these headlines,
like Jabari Smith's wild m J take does it wild
at all? He would school Michael Jordan's hold on now

(01:59:05):
on now like because they still say MJ every now
and down a dust off those Jordans to go down
a three years and deal with the horns. Javari needs to.
He needs to be careful because he may find himself
in a one on one game with Michael. And we
saw the last dance we saw Michael gets. He took
it personal. He takes a personally. Might not be a
great day for Jabari. That's what I want at the
end of the All Star Game today. I want Jabari

(01:59:26):
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you close out the All Star weekend festivities. That would
be tremendous. Al right, coming up next. It's a promotion technically,
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all right, Bucky? So Eric b enemy just want another
Super another one like DJ Khalid, Right, another Super Bowl
with the Chiefs. And he's getting a head coaching job, right. No, No,
He's going over to the Washington Commanders as the assistant

(02:00:34):
head coach slash slash offensive coordinator it's a two year deal, Bucky,
What the hell man like? You go from the Chiefs first,
and a lot of important offensive categories points per game,
yards per game total QBR. Washington is near dead last
in all those categories. And that's where Eric b Enemy

(02:00:57):
has to go. What's going on here? Well, a few
different things, um Eric and obviously has heard a lot
of the noise about why he hasn't had an opportunity
to be a head coach. There's a lot of conversation
about what Eric b Enemy didn't call plays. Uh Andy
Reid is the one really running the ship. So even
though he is the offensive coordinator, how much influence does

(02:01:20):
he really have on the outcome of the game. The
other thing is Eric b Ennemy has been coaching on
a series of one year contracts, meaning at the end
of the regular season he's up for free agency. And
so as a coach, it's hard to live in that
world where you don't have job security, where every year
you have to kind of hope that you get resigned.

(02:01:41):
And so this was probably an opportunity for him to
kill two birds with one stone. I want to get
a chance to go and run my own show. I
get to show people that I'm more than capable are
putting together an offense and having success with that offense too.
I get a chance to have another year tacked onto
the deal. So if we do get fired after one year,
I still have another year making substantial money to be

(02:02:03):
able to um feel secure about my spot in the profession. Now,
I will say with all of that, being a play caller,
being an offensive coordinator is not a determining factor. It
shouldn't be a determining factor in whether you're head coach.
The guys that worked for Andy Reid previously, UH, Doug Peterson,
Matt Naggie respectfully didn't call plays and they got head

(02:02:24):
coaching jobs. Andy Reid himself was not a play called
In fact, I was in Green Bay with Andy Reid.
Andy Reid was a position coach. He started as a
tight end coach and then he was a quarterback coach.
When he got the job in Philadelphia. He has become
the best play caller, or one of the best play
callers in football, and so it's not a prerequisite, but
it's what it is. Eric being to me is trying

(02:02:44):
to answer to the noise, and so we'll see if
it works out. For him man a lot to unpack
right where. The first thought I have is if he
doesn't have a successful year in Washington, I don't know
what the conversation is going to be like, whether it's
fair or not. It's like, oh, he was just simply
the byproduct of Patrick Mahomes. It's like, well, maybe not

(02:03:05):
automatically when you go from the penthouse to the offensive outhouse,
it might not just be about Eric bi enemy. But
you know as well as I do, that's what people
are gonna say if that ends up being the case,
and that's what he was willing to take. He's taking
willing to take the risks now because I would say
those coordinators who have success um have to have sustained

(02:03:27):
loves of success to continue to be a high candidate.
I've seen this a time when it comes to minority coaches,
going all the way back to uh sem Lewis, who
I believe Eric B Enemy is following. Sharm Lewis, if
you don't know, was the offensive coordinator from Mike Homer
with the Green Bay Packers. When he was the offensive coordinator,
sharm Lewis watched John Gruten, Andy Reid, Steve Mariucci all

(02:03:52):
get here coaching John's before he even got a sniff.
So Eric b Enemy is in a similar plight. And
so even though people say, hey, man, he just has interviewed,
he's interviewed with fifteen teams and must be something wrong
with with him. Maybe maybe the interviews, but I saw
awkward Nick Sirianni have a pressor the first time he
got introduced as the Philadelphia Eagles head coach. Turn around

(02:04:14):
two years later his team is in the Super Bowl.
So whatever the answers are, whatever the reasons are, he
hasn't been able ginning done, and this won't guarantee that
he will get one. But he wanted to see it differently.
He want to see if he could do it on
his own and maybe get some respect put on his
name when it comes to the creativity and the level
of ingenuity. Did it brings to the position? Man, this
would sure do it. If he's able to have success

(02:04:34):
in Washington when they're coming off a season where they
were thirty in points per game, thirty one in yards
per game, and total q b R. If he gets
them above average, I don't know what else you need
a lot of people would argue, I don't know what
else you need right now to get the head coaching job.
I mean, if you get through it, cut right to

(02:04:55):
the chase here, Bucky and the lack of diversity that
the NFL had us at the head coaching position, Like,
I do you think it's something more than the color
of the skin. I have a hard time believing that
NFL front offices would see Eric bi enemy as this
difference maker and they're just like, but he's black, so

(02:05:16):
no thanks, But but like, what else is that play
beyond that? Because a lot of people don't want to
talk about it because it seems like you're just grasping
for other factors instead of looking at the racial component.
You know, I won't go out and say, oh, it's
a racial deal that's keeping Eric Enemy from doing that.

(02:05:37):
I will say a couple of things when it comes
to minority coaching hires. UH, A lot of for years,
this goes all the way back to the sixties or whatever. Um,
the coaches that are now coming in the National Football
League go on the offensive side of the ball for
years and years on end. UH. Those coaches have a
quarterback background. Well in the sixties and for most of

(02:05:58):
the seventies, blacks weren't allowed to play those positions, so
blacks didn't necessarily develop a level of expertise in the
traditional football world to be looked at and viewed upon
that and so some of those old stereotypes and things
play out because you don't see many black offensive coordinators
or quarterback coaches, and so that's where head coaches are

(02:06:18):
coming from. Eric B. Enemy is certainly different because he
is an offensive coordrominator. Even though he does come from
a background where he was a running bass coach, he
has a sented to that role. The problem that you
might have is, I don't know, like we all are stubborn, right.
Can you imagine getting beat over the head and someone
telling you, Brian, you gotta do this, you gotta do that,
you gotta do this, you need to hire this, you
need to hire that. Well, you're talking about billionaire owners

(02:06:42):
who have been successful running their businesses based on how
they view things. They are not going to succumb to
the pressure of being told you need to hire this
man right now. And so I feel like the more
attention we put on Eric B. Enemy, the more ownership
might dig dear heels in and say, yeah, you're gonna

(02:07:03):
make me hire this guy. I'll find my own candidate
to hire. An interesting take, and sometimes sometimes the attention
might work against Eric b Enemy at this point. Yeah,
it was right after the Super Bowl where Andy Reid
he mentioned Eric B Enemy's name a couple of times.
He did it on this stage when they were being
presented the Lombardi Trophy. It's one of the first comments

(02:07:25):
he made. And the other interesting part is the Chiefs
didn't give him this role, you know what I mean,
Like he had to go to Washington to get the
assistant head coach slash O c Gig. So it's one
of those deals where I'll go in a slightly different direction.
Because I saw a tweet from you yesterday, Bucky, and
I thought it was really smart. You were talking about
how sometimes former players turned head coaches, they have former

(02:07:48):
players on their staffs, which increases the diversity. I just
wanted to bring that up because I thought that was
a really, really smart tweet from you. So if you
just look around, you know, and it's one of the
things so did with different things that have always been
in playing within the National Football League. So people are
talking about the racial component. But for a long time, Uh,
it was hard for former players to get jobs within

(02:08:10):
the league, because what happens is, and I'll say this
because people always say, just because you're a former player
doesn't mean you'd be a great coach, correct, And just
because you're not a former player also doesn't mean that
you're gonna be a great coach. Like you have to
have a level of uh teaching expertise and knowledge to
be able to do it. That's it. Former players were
often shut out from high end jobs for whatever reason, right,

(02:08:33):
And so what I'm seeing and what has really been
a parent of late the last couple of cycles, the
former players who have ascended to head coaching roles. Let's
talk about Dan Campbell, Let's talk about Doug Peterson. When
you open up the media guy and you look at
their staffs, it's a lot of scope of people that
are coaching. And some of that is due to those
guys have been in NFL locker rooms. And so when

(02:08:54):
you say that the NFL is about seventy or so
percent black, um, those guys have been around it, and
so they're less likely to maybe have some of those
I would say, maybe even unknown prejuices when it comes
to hiring people and putting people in position of power
in those things. Because the football team, you have all

(02:09:14):
different types of people in charge. And I just think
that when you hire former players who kind of understand
what the locker room looks like, they naturally tend to
find and build a coaching staff that has more diverse
voices and perspectives. And some of that is just from
playing between the lines. Yeah, hey, I hear you, man,

(02:09:35):
I hear you loud and clear. It's an interesting thought.
I'm Brian, No, he's Bucky Brooks here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
while we're sticking with football over here, Bucky, there was
one thing I wanted to throw at you because I
saw this and I'm curious for you. Stand. So the XFL,
they're doing away with an NFL rule that I think
is just absurd. You know, when a ball carrier fumbles

(02:09:57):
the ball out of the end zone, the other team
automatically gets possession at its twenty yard line. They'll just
get it at the spot of the phone they get at.
The XFL is like, yeah, that's stupid, We're not doing it,
which I think is a breath of fresh air. So
the way the XFL is doing it, if the team
that fumbles like they retain possession at the spot of

(02:10:18):
the fumble. The other team doesn't automatically get the ball.
I that is a welcome change. I don't know why
the NFL has taken so long. What do you think
about that? Oh? No, no, no no, See, you and I
are different. We are no no like so so Brian,
if you're you're playing for me and you and all
your fancy little uh socks, and you need braids, like

(02:10:39):
if you phone with a ball, like I'm gonna tell you,
hey man, every time you touch the ball, you're you're
running around with the Church's money. So you cannot depart.
You cannot part ways with the church's money. And so
down at the goal line where we're talking about the
Promised Land, you cannot put the ball on the ground
and let it trickle out of the end zone. So
it should be punitive if you're going to phone, we're

(02:11:00):
going in. I shouldn't give you a pass for not
taking care of the football going into the end zone.
Take care of it's something that should be baked into it.
If you have tremendous ball security, you won't fumble the ball.
I should be a nine issue. And so no I
don't want them to, uh make it okay for you
to put the ball on the ground. It's never okay

(02:11:20):
to put the ball on the ground, and so if
you fumble, there should be some consequences. Bucky, we were
getting along so well until now. Unbelievable. No, I can't
believe you. You're such a smart guy to have This
is terrible by you, Bucky. Now here's the thing, the
Church's money. I can fumble the church's money out of
bounds at the guess what, I still have the church's

(02:11:42):
money or anywhere else on the field. But just because
it trickles out of the end zone the other team
without recovering it, they automatically get the church's money. I
hate it. It should be punitive, it should be severe.
There should be some consequences all of that. Yeah, Like
you put the ball on the ground like it's a
no no turnovers at the number one decided fact in

(02:12:03):
who wins or loses games. And so if you're gonna
go down and you're gonna put the ball on the ground,
oh yeah, this should be consequences, and you're not touching
it again for a little while. We gotta make you
think about it. Man, that's that's rough right there. We
are on two opposite sides of the fence on that one.
I just think that you might even if you disagree
with the my reasoning of the rule, you might agree

(02:12:25):
with this part of it. The rule unintendedly in the NFL,
it's discouraging highlight reel type touchdowns. If you get now
near the goal line, if you reach for that pylon,
that's not a smart play. No, it's not, because if
you lose control of that ball, you get hit, what
have you. It's no longer your ball if it goes

(02:12:46):
out of the end zone. Why would the NFL want
to discourage highlight plays that. They shouldn't want to do
that at all because they know it's a dumb play.
Don't don't extend the world unless you know that you
can do it. They already have all the rules going
towards the offense. Everything they already say the goal line
is a play to glass. All you have to do

(02:13:07):
is just penetrated to play to glass and you score
a touchdown. All the other stuff like the pieline cam
and all of that. That is one thing that they
can do for the defense. If you are able to
knock the ball the way down to the endzone, he
goes out the back of the ends on the defense
should be rewarded for something. I mean, what else goes
into defense favor nothing offside? You can still get back

(02:13:28):
on side. That's it. That's it. That's nothing all the way,
like you, we reward them with something. I have seen
defensive players, like after a takeaway get burned by this
stupid rule where they lunched. Now, this is absolutely the exception, right,
and it's almost always an offensive player that fumbles. But

(02:13:48):
every now and then there will be a defensive player
that lunges for the end zone and loses control of
the ball and the offensive team retains possession at the
I hate at too. I don't want to argue for offense.
I'm arguing for logic here, Bucky. I would like the
record to state as much I'm arguing on the behalf

(02:14:09):
of logic. You got to recover the football to get possession.
That's what I say, even in the end zone. I
understand all of that stuff. You need to take care
of the football. You don't need it, you know, you
probably like, But I don't understand why automatically would go
back to the spot of the infraction when you formed
the ball out of the back of the end zone,
it seems because it does everywhere else. Yeah, well, I

(02:14:31):
mean that's the other parts of the field, and so
the parts of the field like past interference changes down
to the end zone. Um, you know, you bring it
had half the distance and those things. I am fine
with it. Don't just don't like to me, the simple
solution is don't fumble the ball going into the end zone.
Like everyone is talking about that point of it. Hey,

(02:14:51):
it's really simple. Take care of the football. Uh huh.
I just hate that you have to recover it every
are on the field. That's like I could switch that
around and say, hey, defense, you want the ball, then
recover it. Oh but if it's in your end zone,
I don't even worry about it. We'll just gift it
to you. You know. I feel like we have to

(02:15:13):
rally over here, Bucky. We gotta find something that we're
in alignment with, some common ground, because I I feel
detached from you right now. This is just driven a
wedge between us and our budding friendship. Here is driven
a wedge because you like to reward gas for mistakes,
where I'm like, no, you got some consequences for your

(02:15:33):
your your bad acts to your reward zone did the
next play, he gets the ball back and he scores
a touchdown. Feel like get a reward for free? You
don't get a reward for just showing up like Derek Carr.
I remember Derek Carr doing this a couple of times

(02:15:53):
with the Raiders. He fumbled against the Cowboys. I actually
want to bet because he fumbled out of the end zone.
And I still hate that rule. He played against the Cowboys,
fumbled out of the end zone. It helped me, and
I I still hate that rule. Like, you don't get
a free meal just for showing up. You gotta do
something for it, Like, yeah, the defense gets a free

(02:16:15):
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(02:16:38):
up next, is this guy a trend setter? Or the exception?
Bucky and I will compare notes I'm kind of hoping
we agree on this one. I'll see what happens. I'm
Brian No. He's Bucky Brooks. Keep it locked right here
on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian No. He's Bucky Brooks
here on Fox Sports Radio. You know, Bucky. As we

(02:16:58):
look at the quarterback market in the off season, we
got a number of quarterbacks up for monster extensions. And
you just have to think about the deal that Deshaun
Watson got with the Browns. We all know it, two
hundred thirty million dollars fully guaranteed. When you start seeing
some of these quarterbacks Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, former m

(02:17:21):
v P, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts of the Eagles, he's
up for a contract extension, I'm curious how you think
about this. I don't think we're going to see any
of those quarterbacks get to thirty fully guaranteed. I think
that's the exception. I don't think Deshaun is a trend
setter as far as that goes, getting fully guaranteed money

(02:17:41):
over two hundred million dollars. What do you say to that?
Because some people see the opposite. So here's the thing
that everyone has to understand. Um, the thing about the
guarantee money wise, really so prohibitive for some owners. Some
owners don't have the cash to then put in the escrow.
So when you guarantee money like that, that money has
to go on an escrow account, meaning you gotta have

(02:18:03):
the cash. You can't use your credit card. You have
to have the cash available to put away. And so
most owners don't have that much liquid to be able
to just kind of freeze away. Jimmy has them and
d as them. They have the cash so they could
make that deal. That's where the sticky point really is.
They argue behind the guarantees and not wanting to do that.

(02:18:26):
It's a cash flow problem. You don't have the ability
to put the cash away, um, because you're not that liquid.
That's what part of it is. And then the other
thing is the Shawn Watson gets it. And look, man,
whatever your feelings are, someone will say that from a
moral standpoint, he shouldn't have been the guy to kind
of break the bank like that. He shouldn't have been

(02:18:47):
the guy to kind of take us into a new
frontier or quarterback play. But it is what it is,
and we are we are there now and so with
the next generation of quarterbacks that are inline Burrow, Herbert
Mark Jackson is still including in that um. They're gonna
push the envelope when it comes to the amount of
guaranteed money. What I will say to ownership and the

(02:19:09):
general managers, you're not obligated to pay every quarterback. And
just because the quarterback is the next quarterback doesn't mean
that he gets into the fifty million dollar club. That
has really been the issue. You've been overpaying for mediocrity.
You have to make it harder for those guys to
get their money because they have to be worthy of it.

(02:19:30):
Isn't general manager or an owner. Are they willing to
take a hard line stense. We're like, yeah, we're good,
I'm not paying that. Here's what I pay you if
you don't sign it, and go somewhere else to see
if you can get it. Because when you overpay for
a mediocre quarterback, it kills your team. We've talked about that.
We talked about Derek Carr, not necessarily in this conversation,
but when you pay forty million, oh, it's there's a
level of expectation that comes when someone gets that level

(02:19:53):
of compensation, and if they can't deliver to that conversation, Mark,
You're always gonna be chasing uh, chasing ghost. Yeah, and
we saw that a little bit with Lamar where the Ravens,
you're talking about a hardline stance at least last year
they did where that was on the heels of DeShawn
getting to thirty full and guaranteed, and the Ravens offered

(02:20:14):
Lamar one hundred thirty three guaranteed and Lamar was like,
say what and he said, no, thank you, and let
me explain, Let me explain, God, let me explain why
Lamar Jackson said no, thank you at that point, So
what people also have to understand, and this is where
people had a tough time. I want to say, at
the point Lamar Jackson knows that playing on the franchise

(02:20:37):
tag um the numbers were I think it was like
thirty three. Then the next tag would have been like
forty five, then fifty four. And so when you add
that up, you are already talking about a hundred and
thirty two million guaranteed on a three year deal. Why
would I give you more years when the guaranteed money

(02:20:58):
is the same. So when everyone is putting it there,
he's looking like, nah, I can do the Kirk Cousins
thing and get this much guaranteed on a shorter term.
You have to give me incentive to lock in for
more years. That has to be a part of the equation.
And so it's the same thing to happen with that.
When everyone's like, oh, he's not getting I said, well,

(02:21:19):
if you add up those two franchise tags or three
franchise tags, that's where the negotiations starts, because I know
I'm as sort of getting at least that much if
I just play a year to year to year to year. Yeah,
it makes total sense, and I see both sides of it.
I totally agreed with Lamar saying yeah, thanks, but no thanks.
One thirty three compared to two thirty, No, no, no,

(02:21:42):
we can't do that. I can also see the Ravens
saying we can't do two thirty because of your style
where you take a lot of chances, you're injured quite
a bit. So I can understand why they didn't go
up to two thirty. One thirty three was just disrespectful
when you're talking about relatively speaking among top quarterbacks and

(02:22:02):
the guaranteed money that they command. The reason I don't
see Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert getting those type of
Deshaun Watson deals. It's not to say that they aren't
as good. I would argue there better, But it's Shawn Watson.
That's what is different. Like Burrow is just negotiating with
the Bengal Herbert is just negotiating with the Chargers. When

(02:22:26):
you look at Deshaun Watson, you had five teams vying
for his services. The Browns were reportedly out of the
sweep steaks, right, and they had to sweeten the deal.
That's what's different with these other extensions. These quarterbacks are
just dealing with one team and not five teams trying
to get trying to get that quarterback at the same time. Yeah, there,

(02:22:48):
that is something to that. And so the leverge certainly
drives up the price. Um I will I will say
with Lamar Jackson and with all these guys, they should
have done the deal sooner. What teams are learning the
quarterback price never goes down, and so the Baltimore Ravens
should have took care of Lamar Jackson early. It would
have been a very cheap deal, you know, much like

(02:23:10):
we looked like it was crazy when the Buffalo Bill
signed Josh Allen to that big deal. We never don't
even blinking Josh Allen making three million dollars whatever it
is he's making, that's just the cost of doing business.
Kyler Murray signs for forty six million annually. You can
put the video game clause in or whatever, but it's
forty six million dollars annually. And so if you're Lamar
Jackson and you're looking around at the landscape, he has

(02:23:32):
to look and say, what has Kyler Murray done that
that surpasses what I've done in this league? I've been
in m v P, so I at least have to
get more than him. What is Josh Allen done that
surpassed me? Josh Allen has never been recognized as the
m v P. Yeah, he's gotten this team into the playoffs,
but look at my record compared to his record, it's
the same. I at least have to get well above that.

(02:23:53):
And so that's where you're at. And so that's where
the Baltimore Ravens messed us up. They should have went
on and paid him, Just bite the bullet and pay him,
because you stuck where you either should have drafted a
quarterback a year ago or two years ago, or you
have to just overpay him now because it's not the same.
Quarterbacks are not in this class, and so you stick. Yeah,

(02:24:13):
you're in a rough spot right now. But we are
not in a rough spot when we have Nick Cope here,
you know what I mean, that's the opposite of a
rough spot. He's gonna bring us up to date. But
everything in the sports world include I got you, guys,
you're not. We're not in a rough spot. It's all good.
We are. We are on the fairway. And Tiger Woods
right now is on the green here at the fifth hole.
He's one under so far in his fourth round and

(02:24:36):
going for a part put here to stay at four
under four the tournament. And so we'll keep an eye
on him throughout the day. But Tiger not in contention
here at Riviera in Los Angeles. That's because John rom
has been outstanding. He is the leader here entering this
final round fifteen under and a three shot lead for Rom.
He and the other leaders. They're gonna get underway just

(02:24:57):
in about thirty minutes from now. In the NBA s
in reports, Kevin Love intends to sign with the Miami
Heat he finalized a buyout with the Cavaliers on Saturday
and ultimately chose Miami over the Philadelphia seventy sixers. In
the NFL report from ESPN this morning that their own
NFL analyst Rex Ryan interviewed a second time for the
Broncos defensive coordinator job on Saturday. He is considered one

(02:25:20):
of the favorites for the job. Former Denver head coach
Vans Joseph also in the mix for that position as well.
NFL Media reports the Cardinals are hiring Drew pet Sing
as their offensive coordinator. Spent last season as the Browns
quarterbacks coach, and he previously worked along signed Jonathan Gannon
with the Vikings. That's all I got, guys, Brian No,

(02:25:41):
Bucky Brooks back to you. Thanks Nick, good stuff. But
it's Brian No and Bucky Brooks here on Fox Sports Radio.
You know I'm thinking about this too, Bucky. If you
haven't noticed, I am longing for football over here. You know,
first Sunday following the football season, you're gonna get down
with the Daytona five hundred. You're gonna watch a little

(02:26:01):
college hoops. What are you gonna do at All Star festivities? Tonight.
What's on the agenda today? So this is a college
basketball day. Uh, North Carolina plays NC State at one
o'clock easton. So I checked that out, and then I
may kind of glance at some of the XFL stuff
to kind of see what's going on. Seeing the new
rules that you approve of, I think I'm more fascinated
with the three point play, uh, a three point conversion,

(02:26:24):
because man, that would be fun to add to the
National Football League. You already have people blowing their minds
with two pointers. Imagine if you can get three points
for conversion, that's a game changer. That would be interesting.
You know, our guy Paxton Lynch got benched yesterday. I
saw the headline where the former Broncos quarterback now in
the XFL got benched in his XFL debut. That's rough, Bucky,

(02:26:47):
That goodness, that is like, maybe maybe they should be
an acknowledgement that maybe some people were all from Paxton
Lynch slightly pick maybe just maybe, um that coffee was
a little rich man. I'll tell you what, you could
hit a grand slam evaluating all these other positions, Bucky,

(02:27:10):
you could hit at like a an ungodly clip like
this guy's gonna pan out. This guy have a little skeptical.
But if you get those quarterbacks wrong, that's all anybody's
gonna remember. Isn't that crazy? Oh? Yeah, I mean it is.
It is nice if you mess up, and you mess
up like in a major way. Yes, it's all bad.
It's not good at all. How about this? As we

(02:27:34):
looked to the off season in the NFL, the major
curveball that could occur at the quarterback position, you think
it's more likely that it happens in the draft or
via trade? Is it like whoa Aaron Rodgers ended up
on that team? Or whoa c. J. Stroud ended up there?
Which do you think it is? Is that the draft

(02:27:56):
or trading? Mm? I think it's more so trading. I
think trading having having a marquee, a big name move all.
Aaron Rodgers certainly will be the name that you have
to associate with it. Where is he going to end up? Uh?
Does he end up in Vegas? Does he end up
in New York? Does he go elsewhere? Uh? He's the
big Domino. He's the one that you look at and

(02:28:18):
say that is nuts because he's an icon in Green Bay.
Love him or hate him. He's an icon, He's done
a lot of things. He'd be a Hall of Fame,
be a Hall of Famer, and so he'll be the biggest,
biggest domino. This is one of my favorite parts of
the show. Today, Bucky, I gotta tweet from rog He
tweets me and it just says question for Bucky, not

(02:28:40):
like and I'm curious what your two cents are to no, nothing, nothing,
didn't tweet You tweeted me a question for you. I
love that. But he's it's a good question, he says.
Let's say the jet Jets have their pick, whether it's
Aaron Rodgers or Derek Carr. Would you rather have Rogers
the drama and having the trade for the guy, or
Derek Carr, who isn't as good but no drama and

(02:29:02):
he's a free agent. Which direction would you go in?
That's a tough one. You. I would take Derek Carr
in this scenario only because I'm probably more likely to
get him from multiple years. If I take Aaron Rodgers,
I may only get him from one year, and I
need more so Derek Carr for two while I'm grooming

(02:29:22):
another quarterback. I'll do it. Even though they say that
Aaron Rodgers and Zach Wilson, they may have a good
relationship because Zach Wilson has always wanted to be your
pattern his game. After Aaron Rodgers, maybe he can mentor
a young guy. Maybe. I don't. I don't anticipate Rogers
being the let me take you under my wing here,

(02:29:43):
young fella. You know what I mean? Maybe, like maybe
four or five days and dark has made him a
little more selfless now, a little more receptive to being like,
you know what, I think I'm gonna share a little more,
share my talents. Yeah, you know, one of the rumors
that a lot of people seem to be warmed up about.
I'm not And this isn't just to swim upstream or

(02:30:06):
go against the grain. I just don't see it. I
hear a lot of people saying, you know, the Titans
and Aaron Rodgers, I could see Mike Verybo'm like, wait what,
I don't see that at all? Right, Like, look at
the weapons that Rogers was surrounded by last season. Look
at the weapons he would be surrounded by with the Titans.

(02:30:27):
Who is he throwing too? You've got Traylan Burke's and
what you like? But yeah, I do like Bob Trees
over there, But come on, it's not like Davonte Adams
that where he just had and then he went back
to a bunch of rookies, Like, is he honest question?

(02:30:49):
Is he upgrading with who he's throwing to going from
the Packers last year to the Titans next season? At all?
Not at all? Because Christian Watson looks like he has
some star potential. Not at all. So so how would
that be super appealing to Rogers? I see that and
hear that a lot. Buck He was like, I don't
know the Titans, man, it's a team to look I

(02:31:10):
could see Rogers. I don't see that at all. I
definitely don't see that at all. I don't see where
that's a good but I will. It would be funny
to see Mike Vrabel have a little situation like he
looks like he can get a pin you pretty good.
He doesn't mind having a little little little confrontation, you know, man,

(02:31:34):
can you imagine Vrabel dealing with a little bit of
or a lot of Rogers Diva tendencies? You know? Oh man,
that would be fly on the wall material, right, Ah,
that would be tremendous, no doubt about it. We're gonna
close it in style. Coming up next mahomes Trey Lance,

(02:31:56):
who could impact thinking more and we'll have some fun
before we get out of here as well. I'm Brian No,
He's Bucky Brooks. Keep it locked right here on Fox
Sports Radio. I'm Brian No, He's Bucky Brooks here on
Fox Sports Radio. Props to the crew over here. The
crew did a magnificent job as always. Iowa Sam technical producer, extraordinary.
Nick Cope on the updates, Ryan Burr Shinger, our trusted

(02:32:18):
producer and his ailing back. He's having a stretch out
on the ground at stages during this show Bucky to
try to alleviate some back pain over there. Good, not great?
What was it? What was he like? A metal show?
What were you at Ryan last night? What's it called again?

(02:32:38):
Metal core? Yes? Yes, a little uh, a little metal
core action? Was I love that? By the way. Peek
behind the curtain our girl Moncy bolang Jos, who's like, yeah, yeah,
to a tongue of blo is gonna be NFL m
v P next season or whatever she's talking about? And
then I hear Ryan's talking on the air right now.

(02:33:00):
That was beautiful, right. I love it that. Don't be
sorry at all. Monsey. We love you, we love you.
Talking in the background, it's all good, nothing wrong with
that at all. Top of the hour, Steve Hartman and
Rich orn Berger keep it locked right here on Fox
Sports Radio. The conversation continues, Okay, so let me throw
some football at you, Bucky, and then we'll goof around
before we get out of here. How about this. I

(02:33:21):
was thinking about this. Which quarterback do you think might
affect the thinking more when the NFL draft rolls around here?
Our teams more prone to go Mahomes just one another
super Bowl. Let's swing for the fences like the Chiefs did.
Maybe we don't find a quarterback as special as Mahomes,
but we might find a quarterback that's more special than

(02:33:43):
the current guy we have. They could think like that,
or maybe they think a little bit like what happened
with Trey Lance, where the Niners they packaged a boatload
of picks to move up to get Tray Lance, and
it's like, what do they really have? So do you
think one or the other the Mahomes model or the

(02:34:03):
Trey Lance model could potentially impact the thinking more when
the draft rolls around. I am actually going to go
behind door number three. There you go. The model that's
going to impact it more will be brock Purty because
the forty nine is able to find someone in the
seventh round and he led them to the championship game.

(02:34:23):
Everybody and their mom is looking for that, that next
player that can be the next brock Purty, who can
be the underrated, the hidden gym that can come out
of nowhere and got us And what things can we
take from brock Purty success. Oh, brock Purdy was a
three or four year starter. He had over this amount
of starts, and he had this and he got better
and better throughout the process. You're more likely to see

(02:34:46):
a flurry of quarterbacks drafted on Day three than ever
before because everyone is going to be chasing the brock
Purty model. Wow, the Brock And you might be right
about that. Certainly we'll see some loose three quarterbacks get
select did yeah the Brock forget this Mahomes model that
we the brock pretty model that Wow, you could be

(02:35:07):
right about that. Yeah, the baby Brian. No one is
looking everyone everyone is looking for that. They're looking for
that guy that can come from underrated status because the
two guys brought pretty to be one, Jalen Hurts would
be the other. And the reason why Jalen Hurts was
a guy that was lightly regarded as a prospect. When
the Eagles took him in the second round, people were like,

(02:35:29):
what are the Eagles doing? But what you have witnessed
from Jalen Hurts every year he's become a better player.
So who has the physical traits but the intangibles and
the football character to improve like Jalen Hursts has been
able to improve. That's where you would get some of
that um. Some somebody will benefit from that. Maybe that's

(02:35:53):
uh Anthony Richardson, who benefits being an athlete? Who and
maybe we develop him, maybe he has the right stuff
of YadA, YadA YadA. Maybe he becomes a guy that
can play like that, and so you'll see more of
those guys. Mahomes. I mean, look, you're chasing the genie
gene in the bottle. It's gonna be hard to find
another guy like that. Oh way hard. Yeah, you know

(02:36:13):
what's hilarious about today, Bucky is I have for months
been saying Brock Purty is fool's gold. He's food gazy.
He's not a true franchise quarterback. And the one guy
my comp when you saw a little bit of my
high school football stuff, you go, you know, like a
lot of brock Purty, and that was I couldn't have

(02:36:34):
There was crushing. There was crushing. There was crushing to
you to bring to compare, you can compare you to
a cyclone to talk about like, hey, Brian, that you
remind me a little bit of you know, that was
just hilarious. Just need your opportunity, like yeah, and Shanahan,
how many games could it? That is the one If
you were the joystick that he was playing his video
games with, what could have been? Man? What could have been?

(02:36:56):
How about this Bucky the NBA All Star Game tonight?
How about out the total? If you're thinking about making
a selection gambling wise or just prediction wise, the total
is three twenty six and a half. Are you taking
the over or the under? When it's Team Lebron against
Team j Honest, I'm going over, going over. I'm going over.

(02:37:16):
And this goes counter to what I normally doing. Prices right,
prices right for everyone on I won't want to say
one dollar, but I'm going over on this one. You
might be right about that. Man, It is uncomfortable to
take the under in an NBA All Star game, and
you feel like a moron if that's your prediction and
it's wrong. But there's that elam ending in the fourth

(02:37:37):
quarter now, or the team that's leading, they just have
to score twenty four points and the game is over.
So you might have a lot of scoring in the
first three quarters but come up short because of that
fourth quarter. You know, the kind of grinds to a
halt a little bit. I know, I gotta keep it
in mind. How about this, Bucky Um. Are you more

(02:37:57):
likely to go out and see Cocaine Bear in the
theater or the New ant Man movie, which is more
of your speed? There? Probably Cocaine Bear. I can't wait
for Cocaine Bear. It looks hilarious and it's like ray Liotta,

(02:38:17):
ray Leota has unfortunately passed away. He's in that movie.
Every time I see the trailer, I'm like, Ray, it's
probably our last glimpse of ray Leota in a movie, right, yeah,
last one. Wow. I'm so glad as you said that,
because I was like, when you brought up ray Leioda,
I was like, I think he passed away, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah right, but he's there with the weird glasses and

(02:38:38):
he's like the bear did what or whatever? He says,
I saw the new ant Man movie. It's good. I'm
not gonna ruin anything. But here's my thing, Bucky, these
movies will never end. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
We were talking about the over under for the NBA
All Star Game. If the over under is three twenty
six and a half, how many more of these like

(02:39:00):
Marvel and man Thing movies will be made. It's it's
gonna soar over by, like you know, four years from now,
because end, because you guys keep going out there looking
at him and everybody. Everybody's doing it like some of
these guys I don't remember hearing. But now we can
talk about it next week. A man for sure know
that it was a pleasure, Bucky. A lot of fun

(02:39:21):
with you. Man. Everybody, have a good day. We'll catch
you soon.

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Brian Noe and Bucky Brooks Discuss the Shape of the NFL Draft