Steve Hartman and Rich Ohrnberger talk Will Levis and 49ers!

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Speaker 3 (00:27):
The way tire by and it should be now for
anybody who's unfamiliar with Steve Hartman, maybe you uh, you're
driving around at a different time on the weekends, or
you listen to a different station and you're trying this
out for the first time. Hartman is a man of routine.
He is so thrown off by the fact that we're

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in a new studio space. I haven't seen you this
out of sorts in forever.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Here. Just move to another Uh No, I.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Can hear your voice, you can hear me.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I can literally hear nothing right now with something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
But I either take one of your headphones off or yeah,
switch over that mic. We got a new studio over here,
and we're working out some of the kings just like uh,
just like Will Levis.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
All right, Well, we're just gonna have to operate this
way for at least the first opening. You're too deaf
to wear those. Yeah, there you go. So here we
are on this. This is something new. Get those new studios.
What do you think of these new studios? I actually
really enjoy them.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I like the sound of it. I like being in
a bigger room. I feel like there's so much space
to explore and do push ups and like, you know,
maybe a couple jumping jacks we should put in, like
maybe a bar over there. I know, we have a
lot of things in here already. It's so crazy, is
so yesterday? You know me, Rich, I've had the same

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headset forever, right.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And you and I have worked for many, many years.
And my headset was where I could hear everybody except myself. Yeah,
and you know, I'm addicted to my own voice, so
without me hearing myself. I suddenly realized that this was
a problem. And then I went to those studio bikes
and it worked perfectly. And I still hear absolutely nothing. Okay,

(02:13):
we don't learn about it. Hey, we'll fix it. That break.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I wanted to get to something really quick here off
the top. Never mind about the studio, never mind about
your discomfort. Yes, actually it relates because I just brought
him up, Will Levis. If there was anybody who was
more uncomfortable over the weekend than Will Levis, or I
should say, over the short time it took him to
actually get drafted. In his world, it probably felt like

(02:37):
an eternity. But to all of us we're watching the draft,
you're talking about twenty four hours. The guy was the
top pick of the second round. And when you know,
the chips fall where they may, when you really start
to like widen the aperture and look at what happened.
He went to a team with a pretty damn good
head coach, a perennial playoff team, who's got an identity defense,

(02:57):
run game, who where if he actually played he is
any football this year. I mean, you gotta believe that
he's going to be protected by a pretty decent offensive line,
which has been a trademark of the Tennessee Titans, and
he's going to have a run game that's going to
be able to carry him if he struggles. Ryan Tannehill
is nothing more special than a second tier quarterback. If

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Will Levis is smart, he looks at this not as
one of those chips that he carries on his shoulder
for the rest of his career. He looks at it
as a benefit, like so many other quarterbacks who are
drafted to better teams than some of these first and
second and third overall picks, or fourth or overall in
this case.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
All right, I love the fact that you're moving Will
Levis Ford. But let's go back a second here. Sure,
we were talking a week ago about the betting odds
that he may maybe the number one overall pick. I know,
second overall pick. This was yesterday, was talking to Adam
Kaplan about this. I go, what exactly happened here? How
do we go from everybody's after Will Levis to every

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team had a chance to get Will Levis? I guess
a record forty three trades in the draft anyone could
have traded up for Will Levis. Nobody wanted to use
a first round pick on Will Levis. How do we
go from him shooting up to at the least number two,
no more than number four in the draft to completely
falling out of the first round, which obviously was a

(04:19):
smoke screen. Either somebody leaked out something that changed the
betting nods. As far as Levis's status in the draft,
was all kinds of things going on. Let me get
into what Adam Kaplan said. Yeah, that's what it was.
It was hype.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
It was pre draft hype. Well who created the hype?

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
And why did so many of the so called draft
experts fall for it and feed that information to the public.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Well, two things happened at once. One, the internet did
what the internet does sometimes. You had this Reddit post
posted by someone anonymous who just went by by our
Slash sports book. Okay, that said Will Levis is currently
telling his family and is for that. He's going to
be taken first overall to the Carolina and Panthers. It's done,

(05:04):
dot dot dot, You're welcome. That's what the reddit post said.
And maybe it's not exactly verbatim, but that was that
was like, the intent was to get people an early
look at what's happening on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
So that happens.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Then all of a sudden, that spreads like wildfire to betters,
whether it's the public or Sharp's money starts pouring in
on Will Levis and starts increasing his betting odds to
be taken first. Overall, there are certain analysts, and I've
talked to some recently who they stake a lot and
I mean a lot on what the betting odds say.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Because here's what drives me crazy about this. Okay, the
reason it bothers me is there had to be somebody
that was going to step up and say this is
a wrong story. I don't know, because here's what happens.
If you're a so called draft expert, right and you're

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suddenly hearing wild rumors about Will Levis rocketing up the charts,
you just start making your context of the teams at
the top.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
But that's my that's my why, So I know what
you're talking about. Yeah, draft analysts like they got fed
their information from people in front offices, but when they
talked to their contacts, why would a front office. I mean,
and don't get me wrong, I'm sure there were some
front of office people were honest like saying, look, he's
nowhere near the top of our board.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
In fact, he's our fourth quarterback.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Or maybe they're like, hey, look he's our second quarterback,
but we're not even interested in quarterback this year. So
there may have been executives sharing that sort of information
that intel with these draft insiders and then them going
public with that, But what would it benefit you, Like
if you were one of the top one of the
teams or executives of the teams holding one of the

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top ten picks where you may have interesting quarterback to
shoot down this rumor because Will Levis was a brand
new name.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
So my point being, if CJ.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Stroud didn't encourage the sore of trade talk that you
wanted to move off of your pick, or if Bryce Young,
the fact that maybe the Texans take Bryce Young or
c J. Stroud goes first over all, whatever whatever combination
of these two names are going to be taken early
in the draft, isn't encouraging anybody to come up and
make a big trade with you. Well, then what about
Will Levis, Like all of a sudden that name gets

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flooted out there. If I'm holding a top ten pick
and everybody already thinks that I could potentially take Bryce,
I could potentially take Stroud, and then all of a sudden,
Will Levis's name just sort of appears in the ether.
As you don't see a conspiracy theory at all, think
about this. The NFL now is in bed with these
gambling establishments, share time, billions of dollars of being funneled in.

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So you get a rumor out there that all of
a sudden, a hotbed is that will Levis is going
to be one of the top three, top four picks,
maybe in the number one overall pick in the draft.
You have all these NFL insiders, the draft experts, if
you're a draft ack, because as a turn out, the
top three picks were exactly what we said they were
going to be a month ago.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right abe, it was going to be Bryce Young, CJ.
Strou Will Anderson. That was it until like two weeks ago,
all of a sudden, Will Anderson's not the number one
defensive players actually shooting him like thought. At least one
of these draft experts would have contacted some of these
teams at the top saying, am I missing something here?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
You right rewind back even further, and I understand you
meant the combination of three.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
But CJ.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Stroud for a while was presumed to be the first
overall pick to the Carolina Panthers, and then all of
a sudden it was Bryce Young, and he started canceling
his projects.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
And c J.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Stroud fell because all of a sudden he scored an
eighteen on some tests that I had never heard about before.
It's tough to call it a fall. He fell all
the way to two, you know. But again in the
pre draft he was falling off the board. I saw
some final draft projections having him drop out of the
top ten because of some tests that I'd never even
heard before, where he scored like an eighteen, an absolute fail,

(08:59):
rap action time and everything else. No, the fact was
he went exactly where we thought. We thought the top
two quarterbacks were set in some order, it's going to
be Bryce Young and CJ. Straw. But I just this
last couple of weeks, this sudden wave of misinformation just
seemed baffling to me.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
What's interesting is I think you put more stock into
mock drafts than I do. I think my assumption is
always that this is smoke, you know what I mean,
Like until something firm comes out. Like when Bryce Young
started canceling pre draft visits, I was like, oh, he's
the first overall pick.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
No agent in.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Their right mind would allow their client to do that
unless he's already hammering out or she hammering out a
contract with a front office, there's no way, because you
could you could torpedo your player's career before it even starts,
doing stuff like that. But if he gets on the
phone or she gets on the phone and goes, hey, listen,
my client, you know how this goes first overall picks

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and Carolina they need a quarterback. I'm not going to
say anything, but you know we're we're not coming out
for the visit, and everybody understands. Everybody hangs up the phone,
going okay, that's done. So until I heard that, I
was like, well, it's all speculative until there's actual proof,
Like that is proof because if if that went another way,
it would have been a disaster for Young. So he

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goes first overall. I assumed the next quarterback up would
be Stroud, but that's my own.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Assessment, still speculative.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
So the only thing I was sure of going into
this draft was Bryce Young was going first overall. I mean,
this idea of Will Levis being taken in the top ten,
or say the second quarterback taken overall, right, that to
me could potentially be true.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Why what was what was it about? Did you miss
C J. Stroud's performance? Against Georgia, the forty one forty
loss where C. J. Stroud was the reason why they
were in that football game. No, it was the single
best performance by a college football quarterback last season. The reason.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
It only takes one team, right, No, it did only
take one. All it takes is one team to say, hey,
you know what, that's our guy. Everybody else be damned,
are guys coming out of Kentucky this year?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Not Ohio State. It didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
And by the way, if you were going to give
me betting odds to bet on, and you gave me
good odds that it was going to be our favorite,
odds that it was going to be Will Levis early,
I would assured it that bet I would have gone
the other way with that bet, because there's no way
in my mind you But again, all that speculative until
you have actual, concrete proof.

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Speaker 3 (13:18):
I asked Sam to play some soothing music coming in
from break because I mean, well, moments ago, Steve was
apoplectic over the new studio and the fact that he
couldn't hear his own voice. Can you hear your voice?
But can you hear your voice? Most importantly, I think
modest so secondary to your brain. The fact that you

(13:38):
couldn't hear your own voice in your head sat rattled
you altogether.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, I wanted to hear your voice loud and clear.
Fortunately you're as loud as I am, so I was
able to do that. Hey, I want to get into
this game seven to night between the Kings and the Warriors.
There's been an unbelievable series and by the way, just
an overview. You know that I've I have a hard
time with regular season NBA basketball. It's not really watchable.

(14:02):
I will say the playoffs so far have been an upgrade.
I've seen some pretty compelling series, but this series in particular,
I thought this was over. I mean, when Sacramento loses
Game five at home, You're like, all right, the Warriors
gonna wrap this thing up at home. Sacramento not only
wins Game six on the road, they win convincingly, and
suddenly the Warriors looked old, and those fresh legs of

(14:26):
those young Kings players SA Bonus Fox and company took control.
I'm assuming the Kings will win at home tonight. You
know it's gonna be rocket in Sacramento. Gosh, that place
is gonna be going absolutely nuts. But I'm not gonna
discount the Warriors. They are a four time champion, defending
champions right now. But I'm thinking ahead to the Lakers,
who took care of business against the Grizzlies with that

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forty point blowed in Game six. If you're the Lakers
right now, do you have a rooting interest in tonight's game?
Is there one team that would be a preferable opponent
for you? If you're the Lakers, the evil you know
is better than the evil you don't.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's human nature, even if even if you think a
shortcut may be better. You almost would rather like if
say you're you're leaving for work and somebody suggests a
new route to take, and they say, hey, it's ten minutes.
It'll shave ten minutes off your commute. But say you left,
like right at the edge of the time, where you'll
make it on time if you go the route you

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know you're taking, the route you know you're not going.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
You're not traversing some new route.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Like you'll feel and comfort you and be like, gosh,
if this goes wrong, I'll be late and the boss
is really riding me. And the evil you know is
better than the evil, don't You don't change things when
you feel like you've got it knacked. They've been competing
with Lebron and she'd say has been competing against Curry
and Draymond and Thompson in the postseason for a decade.

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He knows exactly what he's getting, and I think he
would probably in his mindset, prefer to see them. Then
this upstart, dangerous, healthy, relentless Sacramento Kings team who has
a fan base who's been starved for two decades to
root on a playoff team.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I'm with you on this one. And when you really
look and break down the Lakers series win against the
Memphis Grizzlies, and talking about Lebron James and Anthony Davis,
now that one of them really put together back to
back individual good games. It was like Ad had a
great game, the bad game, great game, and Lebron was
pretty much the same way. Lebron shot under twenty percent

(16:29):
from threes during that series. What happened. Hatchamura came up
big early in that series. D'Angel Russ obviously had a
huge Game six. So I agree with you. You look
at this Sacramento team right now and they're playing with
what they just showed me in winning this game on
the road against the Warriors. And by the way, Mike Brown,

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who was the unanimous NBA Coach of the Year, it
never happened before, by the way, an award that goes
back sixty years, and it's really so for him to
rally that team after that disappointing Game five loss at
home and went on the road. Impresses me so for
the Lakers because I watched Game six with some Laker fans,
right it was a buddy's birthday that we were celebrating

(17:12):
that night. Then we watched the Lakers game. The Lakers
are winning the championship. I'm slow down, slow down. That
was a big that was a big margin they won. Well,
I mean based on that. If they play like that, yeah,
it's gonna be tough to beat the Lakers. But you
you have to sort of really take a look back
and and this is something we've talked about a lot

(17:34):
rich about the load management and everything else and how
it adversely affects certain players and certain teams. And you
can say, well, you're you're saving yourself for energy in
the postseason. Well, that really hasn't played out well. And honestly,
as we talk about Phoenix last night and their blowout
loss to Denver, there's a lack of chemistry. There's there's
a reason to be on the court together. It's not

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just you know, sort of building strength for the playoffs.
It's also creating a certain level of chemistry and the
idea that you just rest a bunch of players and
then you put them on the court in the postseason,
turn the switch on, and everything is good. There's a
lot of chemistry, especially when you're bringing in a new
guy like Duran and Phoenix or some of these new pieces.
This Laker team, though, has had a chance now to

(18:20):
play with this group, which is why they've had the
best record in the NBA since the All Star break.
But I think that was sort of loss in the
whole load management. It's not about just keeping your star
players healthy for the postseason, but if you don't play
with the rest of the team, you're really lacking that
chemistry you need in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, chemistry and trust are two things that are so
underrated when it comes to talking basketball. At the college level,
we talk about it a lot, you know, especially with
upperclassmen who have been with the same program, same coach
for a while, have understood, you know, their task as
a veteran on their team. But at the pro level,
it's almost like baked into the narrative. In the NBA,

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all you need is stars, that's it. You'll win championships
with stars. And the truth is, well, the Bucks were
once champions and they just got knocked out in the
first round by an eight seed. You know, I'm not
gonna say a five seed advancing is like a huge deal,
but it is a big deal. It's another upset. So
the Knicks are in you know, you look at what's
happening here with this Sacramento Kings Warriors race. Like I mean, granted,

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I think either way you could sort of call it
an upset, whether you're talking about seeding specifically or you're
talking about just the fact that the Sacramento Kings haven't
been in the postseason for two decades and this is
a young group who I mean, Malik mont perfect example.
After the game, he goes, I've never played in a
game seven like that was such like it was. You

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then realize you're like, oh, wow, yeah, you're talking about
like guys who are brand new to all this. But
there's so much energy and enthusiasm And to your point
about load management, nobody on this court understands what that
like either, Like they've had to earn and scrape and
get by on their talent and their chemistry and the

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trust they have in one another, and it's worked for them.
And I don't know if it's going to dawn a
new age in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I doubt it.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I think veteran players are going to take advantage of
this load management rule until they're incentivized not to. But
the Kings, if they do this this year, like and
I mean, do it all Like if this team wins
a championship and puts the rest of the league on
warning that what it takes is to be young and
scrappy and hungry, I bet you front offices will start

(20:34):
recognizing that maybe this, you know, aging veteran max deal
contract stuff isn't the way to go.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Maybe it's maybe it's.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Built a young, hungry group and we may see a
turn or shift in the tides.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I would hope so and again for these veteran players
trying to conserve their energy so to speak, and get
ready for the postseason. If this this completely flames out
for teams like Phoenix and the Lakers and the Warriors,
and some of these veteran teams ida of bringing in
guys on the back end of their careers hoping that
somehow they still have magic. In fact, I want to

(21:06):
get to the Clippers situation because there was a revelation
out of the organization that is just mine blowing to
me about where the Clippers are going with their future.
But right now, let's find out what is trending and
see now we are in a different situation where we
can actually watch Monsy do her work.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
She's still figuring things out.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yes, well, by figuring things out here, let me ask
you this question.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Normally you're used to seeing the goons over there in
the production studio and Sam and the whole crew.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Now you have to look at us, right. Is this
more nerve wracking?

Speaker 8 (21:44):
I just have to make sure that when you say
something stupid, I don't make a face. Wow, come on,
I was trying.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
To be offensive.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I almost unlike Kawhi Leonards.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Exactly exactly. Can't play offensive. You don't play you can't
you right? You're right? No, no, no, that's true. I
do think about that that sometimes I'm like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 8 (22:08):
Before nobody really would be watching me, especially the hosts,
or somebody could come in and I don't see them.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Oh that's another thing.

Speaker 8 (22:16):
Where before I could see people walking in and I
was like, oh, are they coming into my studio or
are they going?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
We need a safe word, like if somebody is coming
to like strangle you or something, and you hear me
shout blueberry pancakes, it means turn around in.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
A hurry, perfect blueberry pancakes.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
I'll have a pen ready, I'll do what I need
to do exactly.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
Well Game one between the Heat and the Knicks is
officially underway again, Knicks playing without Julius Randall because of
that left ankle sprain.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
But the Knicks are up.

Speaker 8 (22:43):
It is late in the first quarter, so plenty of
game left, but New York is up twenty to.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Sixteen against Miami.

Speaker 8 (22:49):
Jimmy Butler only one of four so far from the field,
but he already has four rebounds.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
He's got two points to assist.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
As we know, he's been the savior for the Miami Heat.
We actually I have three game sevens today going on
on this Sunday. Obviously we're talking about the Warriors and
the Kings. That Game seven is set for three thirty
pm Eastern time. But on the ice there's two game
seven The big one is at the Raining Champs. The
Avalanche are going to play the crack In that's at
nine thirty pm Eastern time. But before that, the Panthers

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and the Bruins are going to have their Game seven
that set for six thirty pm Eastern time. There are
a couple of baseball games going on, but the Pirates
and the Nationals are on a rain delay. Shocker, not
really the other game going on. It's the Marlins that
are beating the Cubs three to two top of the
sixth inning. And I'm sure you guys are going to
talk about it, but that the NFL is targeting a Thursday,

(23:38):
May eleventh date to release it's twenty twenty three schedule.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'm excited to hear what the schedule is going to
be excited about the NFL.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Thirty four million people? Yeah, watched that's the first round,
that's all.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
I can't believe that was the number. When it came out,
it was one hundred.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
And twenty five thousand people showing up in Kansas City
to watch all that. So yeah, the NFL just continues
to climb and climb and climb atop the sports board.
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and say at Progressive dot com. Believe it or not, Rich,
I actually have friends of mine that are Clippers fans. Yeah,
you know a lot of people suspect that most Clippers
fans are really Laker haters. So if they live in
the Los Angeles area, the only reason they root for.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
The Clippers is they hate the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
And that is the alternative. But there are actually some
Clippers fans who when this season ended, the disappointment of
Kawhi Leonard and the meniscus stare and everything else that
he wasn't able to finish that series, I was getting
including Monsi saying, let's blow this up, Bac Monsi. Can
we have Monzi back on here talking about the Clippers
here for a second, because Monsei, you are a Clippers fan,

(25:02):
so this latest you're ready for this? Stet boy, here
we go. So in the four years that Kawhi and
PG have been together, they have miscombined two hundred and
eighty two games. Wow, including playoffs, include two hundred and
eighty two games combined missed in four years.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Yeah, it's impressive.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
That's seventy. That's seventy combined miss games per season. All right,
So Laurence Frank, who's the president of basketball operations for
the Clippers, they have another guaranteed here on their contract
next season. Yeah, and then the following year, they have
player options for almost forty nine million each. Laurence Frank
has announced that the Clippers are going to double down

(25:41):
and look to extend the contracts of both Kawhi Leonard
and Paul George beyond the two years they have remaining
on their deal, and they want to get it done asap. Now, MONSI,
you are a die hard Clippers fan, am the idea
that they are doubling down on Kawhi and PG to
get him to where ultimately they want to get and again, money,

(26:04):
He's not an object when you have the wealthiest man
on the planet where ninety billion dollars luxury tax, none
of this means anything to this guy. Understand that. But
are you convinced that's the right move moving forward for
the Clippers to double down and extend the deals for
Kawhi and Paul George.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
I don't see why you would do that, Absolutely not.
I don't get it.

Speaker 8 (26:25):
Honestly, keep one if you want one, keep one, But
why double down on both of them? I think you
need to take advantage of the fact that maybe somebody
still wants Kawhi and I would trade him. I would
take advantage of that because if we go through another season,
another two seasons, and it's the same thing again.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
You're really going to be stuck. So right now, maybe
somebody wants them, why not trade him?

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I will say this, I think I have the answer,
And it all comes down to the investment recently made.
When you're building an arena, when you are trying to
fill seats, and you are going to either hit the
jet button on one or both of these guys and
start any sort of rebuild, because that's what that signals.
Even if it's just one of the two of them,

(27:08):
you're getting draft capital. It's a youth movement. Paul George
or Kuhi whoever's left over, or if both of them leave,
the veterans on the team are left to lead the
young men. And then the assumption is because the veteran
who's left over is going to finish his contract and
move on, So you have to do something that signifies

(27:28):
we're gonna have this solid base of veteran stars. So
when we welcome you to the new arena with the
eleven thousand plus bathrooms, you're gonna get to enjoy Clipper
basketball the way you remembered it when we were over
at Crypto dot Com. It's gonna be Kuhi, it's gonna
be PG in the Gang, and everything's gonna be great
for at at least one more season, all.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Right, But I agree with you, that's the reason why. Absolutely,
And they have one more year at the Crypt, yes,
and then they will move into the new arena in
a couple of years. But I also I told you
about my friend had. These floor seats are three hundred
and thirty six thousand dollars, and there's not a lot
of takers, not based on the seats, because if you
got that kind of money, you're gonna spend the money.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Because it's two hundred and eighty two games.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
The question is the question emerges exactly plus a game
for right, If I'm only going.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
To see those two guys for half the games, why
am I paying the full price on the ticket? So
it could look at it would be a critical year
next year. If I'm Steve Bomber and I'm agreeing to
some kind of extension on these two guys, I need
you to show up next year because if we have
another year like that as we move into the new arena,
and I'm trying to raise the bar even further as

(28:40):
far as selling these tickets that we're away from the
Lakers and we have our own identity. Good luck.

Speaker 8 (28:46):
That's exactly what I'm saying. I don't want to spend money.
I wouldn't invest, I don't know who I'm going to see.
I don't know who I'm going to see, and I
don't care you. I feel like we've been It's like
deja vu every year. Like I I'm tired of it.
It's the same conversation. If anything, I'd be like, all right, Kawhi,
you want an extension, play sixteen games in a row
and then let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
But hang on a second, Kawhi, Leonard could make life
very difficult.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
For you, right.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
We see him do it in San Antonio. So if
you try to go to Kauhi and say, listen, we
want to sign you to a new extension, but we
want to build in playing time incentives where you actually
have to earn a portion of your contract in order
to get the max value, he's going to say, yeah, okay, trade.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Me, Okay, I'll walk great.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
You know I know that that sounds okay for you,
But he also knows that they're they're making money on
his name. This is the same thing to a certain extent,
not the same, but it's it's similar to what happened
at the end of Kobe's career with the Lakers. Like
Kobe gobbled up a tremendous amount of the salary and
he knew he still could because the Lakers were reliant

(29:51):
on him to sell seats and sell jerseys.

Speaker 8 (29:54):
But Kobe, what Kobe is to the Lakers, Kawhi is
not to the Clippers.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh, I get that. But life after Kawhi could get
pretty desperate.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Predy desperate right now. But at least there's hope.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
But we have a solid team without him. You saw it.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Okay, listen, this I the Sacramento Kings. The reason why
they're head coach Mark Brown. Mike sorry, excuse me, Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Mark, I'm confusing with them.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, Mike Brown got a unanimous Coach of the Year
was because he did something that happens so rarely, where
you could take a team like the Clippers minus Kawhi
and Paul George and get them to the postseason. The
chances of lightning striking twice in the West in consecutive years,
where the Clippers they get rid of Kawhi or Kawhi

(30:41):
and Paul George or just Paul George, and they all
of a sudden are successful. Is so slim and none
that these guys know they have the organization over the barrel.
They're going to exploit that fact and make as much
money as they can because they know they're about to
open in two years a new arena, and.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Unfortunate, somebody's got to use the restrooms.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Want somebody, They gotta fill these toilets.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
All right. So you're Steve Bomber, and according to Forbes
right now today, you're the tenth wealthiest person on the
planet right worth over ninety billion dollars, and you have
no control over your basketball team. You signed on the
DOTTA line with Kawhi Leonard. Remember how the Lakers were
going after Kawhi. Yeah, but Kawhi was like, I don't
want to be second fiddle to Lebron James. I want

(31:25):
to have control of a team. Bomber jumps in. They're
coming off, you know, championship in Toronto. What do you want?
I want control? All right, great, you got it. What
do you want? I want Paul George. It's gonna be
tough to get him again. You want me get Paul George.
They trade five number one picks Shay Gildess Alexander who
just averaged over thirty points a game, seven seven picks

(31:50):
to get Paul George because that's what Kawhi Leonard wants.
And now Paul George and Kawhi Leonard both missing. All
this time, there is no backing out of this deal
for Steve Bomber. He's into de KWHI. Leonard will determine
how long this will go. And it just amazing to
me think of a man with that kind of wealth,
that kind of power that comes with that kind of wealth,

(32:13):
really not having control of his own NBA team. He
signed it over to Kawhi Leonard and he just got
to hope for the best.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Say, say you have a nice hand in poker, right,
a nice hand, and you're you're the chip leader, and
you try to bully the pot where you throw a
bunch of chips at this hand pre flop. Uh that
means before the first three cards come out, and then
the small the small chip stack goes ahead and says,
you know what, I'm all in, right, I mean, you're

(32:41):
the bully on the block, so you you match, and
he flips over.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
He's got aces.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
All of a sudden, You're like, great, great, but what
are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Fold?

Speaker 3 (32:49):
No, you gotta see this thing to the river. You
gotta you gotta play the handout. Steve Balmer, to complete
the metaphor, is the bully on the yard. Right, He's
already pushed a bunch of hip. Somebody called him Kawhi
all in and said match me. He said, yeah, sure,
Paul George, fine, we'll trade draft picks, We'll spend money.
We're building an arena. Paul Georgia, quiet, sounds great to

(33:11):
be Now he's gonna fold here.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Now you can't.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
You can't.

Speaker 8 (33:15):
So then we'll be talking about this in a year,
about how Kawhi and Paul George got injured game one
or right at the end of the regular season, and
we're gonna do this again.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I'm with you, it's gonna happen again. From the fans standpoint,
I'm with you. From the business standpoint. I completely understand
what Steve Baumber's conundrum is, because if he backs out now,
it's like throwing bad money or worse money after bad.
It stinks right now. But again, if you're opening an arena,

(33:44):
in two years and you have the dregs of the
West opening that arena with you, where they're like, who
is this? Who do we even what jersey do we buy?
You're in deep, deep trouble.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
The irony, of course, is Steve Bomber could literally buy
the entire league. It could be the National Bomber Association. Yeah,
instead about it, I mean change money to buy every
single team.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
He changes the logo to just to with his hands.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
That hand is like a basketball, right, you know, the
Bomber Association. But again, this guy is going to pay
out because they had the number of highest payroll in
the league this year, number one, and on top of that,
because they were over the cap. He has to play
I think they had. He has to pay out three
hundred and sixty million dollars for a guy worth ninety billion.

(34:33):
None of this matters to him. The money is. This
is what drives me nuts. If I were him right now,
I would sell the stupid Clippers. I would sell I
would sell the arena and buy another team, buy three
or four teams. I mean it's there's like, I don't
understand why he's putting himself through this misery, But.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I would just link up with Shack and like get
in on that general insurance.

Speaker 8 (34:59):
You know, just are the subway or hop John's.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, yeah, you just do that, just that, yeah yeah yeah.
All right. So of the teams that are remaining, we
have nine still because they're still awaiting the outcome of
that Warriors King series. Which team should be considered the
favorite now to win the NBA Championship. We're gonna break
it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Hartman and

(35:27):
Rich Arnberger. This is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are
here live from the tire Raq dot Com studios keeping
our eye on this playoff game between the Knicks and
the Heat, and so far it's all Nicks up to
an early forty to twenty eight le They are about
seven minutes left there in the first half. Of course,
the Heat getting in as an eight seed. In fact,

(35:48):
not only as an eight seed, they actually lost a
play in game and still took care of business against
not only the number one seed, but the team they
had the best record in the NBA this year. The
Walkee Bucks sometimes about matchups, you know, and then for
some reason, sort of like your New England Patriots back
in the day, did not match up well with the
New York Giants. Yeah, in super Bowls for whatever reason

(36:09):
it was. It's not Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
It's not where you start, it's where you finish, right, Yeah,
So a regular season team, to your point, like the
Giants back in two thousand and ten, like they just
got hot, you know what I mean, they were nine
and sevent team that just found their way into the
wildcard round and found their way advancing and found their
way in a super Bowl and winning the damn thing.

(36:33):
Like Jannis getting hurt helps, That helps, you know, because
it encourages this team. But also just the fact that
Jimmy Butler is that guy. I mean, he just whatever
it is, whatever's baked into certain athletes. He has the
clutch geam.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
No doubt about.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
That.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Didn't help that Yanist missed all those free throws in
that last game, ten out of twenty three free throws
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the ramifications of what happened in the NFL Draft coming
up in the next hour. So John Paul Morosi is
going to be join us, Tucker a little MLB as
well as some hockey. Can you believe the Boston Bruins
are down to a game seven right now in the
opening round, A team that broke all the records, and
I mentioned the stat the w rerecord holder for regular

(37:36):
season wins in every major sport. None of them won
a championship. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Sixteen and o Patriots
all time record did not win the championship. Win Warriors,
the seventy three win Warriors, and then the six Cubs
and the two thousand and one Mariners one hundred and
sixteen wins. Neither won the World Series. So we'll see
what happens with the Bruins there. As far as the
NBA's concerned, Rich, I'm not changing for what I thought

(37:59):
a week ago. By the way, Joel Embiid's injury maybe
a little worse than they were expecting. He is very
unlikely for the first game of that series against the Celtics.
I know the Celtics had that hiccup against the Hawks. Uh,
but then they came right back. You know, if Trey
Young hit that incredible shot to knock him out and
bost them and they go to Atlanta win that series.

(38:20):
I still look at the Celtics now as an overwhelming
favorite and that and that being said, in the West,
I don't know how you can augree with Denver right now.
I think the Nuggets so far in these playoffs, much
as they did to get the number one seed in
the Western Conference, they're showing they are the best team
in the West. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Look, the Nuggets are quietly dominant. You know, the Nuggets
are the type of team that you know they'll just
they'll put a team away like the Suns by close
to twenty points, and it won't make headlines because you know,
they're they're they're just not sexy, you know, they don't
they don't have what some of the other teams have.
It would be a much louderation for a Clippers team

(39:01):
in the second round if they had a big win
over Kevin Durant because of all the stars. But Jokic,
I mean, it's just not one of those names that
people get excited about.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
I mean, Yanni's kind of faced this a little bit.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
With the Milwaukee Bucks and their championship run, it kind
of felt like back then Yannis could still sneak up
on people.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
That's what the Denver Nuggets are.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Doing right now, even though they're great, and if you've
been paying attention in the West, especially what they've done,
the Nuggets may win a championship.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I think it's a great analogy of what happened to Giannis,
because remember he had won back to back MVP Awards,
but they're like, what is where is he in the playoffs?
Where's the championships? All of a sudden boom, they win
a championship. Maybe Denver is due flying under the radar
as Milwaukee did a couple of years ago. I think
it's very possible, although I still think when the Celtics

(39:52):
picked up Brogden as well, who ended up six Man
of the Year, that one added piece to that core
that they already have they like the best. So right
now we're watching this Knicks, do you have much interest
in this series? Between the Knicks and etc. Either one
of these teams getting passed either of Boston or Philadelphia
into the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I would love to see Jimmy Butler continue on. I
just love his story. I just love his story. Like
when you have a guy who came from nothing, had
to be adopted because it seemed like nobody wanted him,
and then all of a sudden turns into what he's become.
It's the American dream. Like Jimmy Butler's life is what
everybody's yearning for, you know, regardless of where it came from,

(40:35):
your circumstances, making something special out of yourself with the
support of great people around you.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
And that's what he's done. All right, Much more in
the NBA playoffs, much more, as far as the outcome
of the NFL Draft, and we're going to talk some
Major League baseball. John Paul Morosi will join us. This
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the world. Rich He of course is a man best
known as our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider. But yeah
he does you know MLB Network, NHL Now he does

(41:23):
all the big guys, right, oh yeah, but he takes
that time to join us every week. John Paul Morosi JP,
how are you today.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
Outstanding gentlemen. Good afternoon from the great city of Detroit.
We've got the Orioles and Tigers playing here at America
Park and yes folio where we've got two great Game
sevens coming up in the NHL today. Panthers, Bruins krackin
Avalanche could the cracking in their first ever postseason series
potentially unseat the Raining Cup champs. So some great storylines

(41:54):
across the sports world here today.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Well, we saw Las Vegas in their first season the
NHL make it all the way Stanley Cup Final. I
got to ask you though about the Bruins. I mean,
we were talking about the sixteen to zero Patriots didn't
win a championship, the seventy three win Warriors did not
win a championship, the one hundred and sixteen win Mariners
did not win a championship. Here's a Bruins team that

(42:17):
set all kinds of records this year, best regular season
in NHL history, and they got a Game seven in
the opening round. What the heck's going on here?

Speaker 6 (42:26):
Well, a ton of pressure on them right now, and
I think for poster Knock, he's going to have to
answer with a huge Game seven. At the end of
the day, when you get to this spot, it ends
up being goaltending and can your best players carry the
day in a game seven environment? And I really I'm
a believer in the Bruins, but there's also no doubt
that the Panthers are playing relaxed. They have got zero

(42:49):
pressure on them, and they've got a ton of talent
when you think about Matthew Kachuk and the way that
he played in Game six. So on the ice, talent wise,
top to bottom, Boston's got the better roster. They've got
Macaboy on the back end. For all those reasons, Boston
should win, but they're facing so much pressure on home
ice and a Panthers team that is really finding their

(43:11):
form here in the last couple of games.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
So moving on to baseball.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
This is back on Thursday, I believe, I opened up
my computer to an article about sho Hey. Otani just
shy of another career milestone, making history for hitting for
the cycle in a game that he started as a pitcher.
And I was reminded of his dominance because I had
n't been paying as close of attention to his stat

(43:36):
line and I look it up and as of Thursday,
he was slashing two seventy eight, three forty three, and
five twenty six. And on the mound it may be
going even better. Opposing batters As of Thursday, again, we're
hitting an average less than one hundred against him. I mean,
this guy is just I mean, I know I've asked

(43:59):
you about you hey before, JP, but I mean, is
it even quantifiable? Like I know he's due for a
contract here soon, I mean, what number do you put
on this level of talent?

Speaker 6 (44:11):
Great question, Rich, and I think it's one that we're
going to be debating a lot in the industry for
months to come, And certainly we may get a bit
of a preview at the deadline this year, if the
Angels are out of it and they consider trading him.
We won't know so much the financial component, but based
on the prospects that are offered, will potentially get a
bit of a glimpse at how other teams believe he

(44:34):
should be valued, at least from a prospect value standpoint
in the marketplace. The other thing I would say is
that we have to look at this in two ways.
Number One, there's the historic nature of his talent. There's
never been a player like him. He is doing things
for longer and better than Babe Ruth did. That's a fact.
There's just no denying that he is doing something that

(44:56):
the Bambino himself could not do so in the modern era.
When you consider what Aaron Judge got to be a
brilliant player in one discipline, Otani is I think poised
to surpassed that four hundred million dollar mark in terms
of the total guarantee. I think that's a relatively safe
assumption as long as and here comes the big clause

(45:19):
of the sentence, as long as he remains healthy, because
we have to realize that if if and no one
hopes this is the case, but if there's an injured
list stay at some point in time this year, and
we're reminded of the rather just unprecedented nature of his
talent and how no one's been able to do this

(45:39):
in the past, How does that impact what his market is?
And that's where I think we have to say, if
he remains healthy, if all of the medical information imaging
remains sound, he is a four hundred million dollar player.
And beyond the one thing I would say rich where
teams might be a bit more will to entertain the

(46:02):
incredible contractual risk that would be involved, is that we're
talking about a global sports icon in a way that
very few baseball players I would submit, no current baseball
players are. This is not the same analogy, but I'll
make this point. When you see a soccer player who's
in his mid to late thirties and by that by

(46:24):
the metrics of that sport, is no longer in his prime,
they might still sign this incredibly lucrative deal. You think
about Christiano Ronaldo's last contract. Part of that is the
marketing brand value of the player. And so is there
a team out there that says, wait a minute, we
need to become more of a global sports brand. And
even if Otani has some injury risk in the near term,

(46:48):
he's worth half a billion dollars to me because of
what I want my brand to be. That's the one
area where we can see one team potentially, or two
willing to go to areas that make no sense in
terms of an actual dollar in, dollar out cost benefit analysis.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
All Right, the Pittsburgh Pirates over the last three seasons
have had the worst record in baseball. Right now, they
have the best record in the National League at twenty
and eight. Are they for real?

Speaker 6 (47:17):
They're more real than they're not. And the reason why
I say this is you look at their underlying offensive
numbers and they're coming from younger players who have been
able to prove themselves I think already at the major
league level. Sowinsky's had a great start to the year.
Of course, Reynolds has got the extension, McCutcheon has been
back and really making a huge impact. Castro was filled

(47:39):
in for the injured O'Neil Cruz at shortstop. Cabrian A
is a really great defender at third base. I'm a
believer that because we have so much information out there
about players now that the notion of well, the young
player can fool the league for a year before everybody
catches up to him and he enters a sophomore year.
That's not the same thing nowadays. Players. The book on

(48:00):
players is out there before they even show up to
the big leagues. So I'm a believer that if you're
able to do it for a month, six weeks, then
I collectively have a lot of faith and your team
to keep it going. I think Keller has also been
pretty good in the rotation. Love their bullpen. They've got
an a level closer and David Bednar, whereas on the

(48:21):
rest of the teams of the division, the Cardinals have
some profound pitching issues. I don't think the Reds are
there yet in terms of being competitive at the top
end of the division.

Speaker 9 (48:32):
So I look at the relative to competition metric and
I think the Pirates have a legitimate chance to stay
around here with their young talent, and I believe that
they've got an excellent manager of Derek Shelton and a
front office led by Ben Sherrington that could make an
impactful trade at the deadline.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
We're joined by JP Morossi here on Fox Sports Radio
from the Tyraq dot Com studios. I look at this
international this international series between the Padres and the Giants
down there in Mexico City, and I see a lot
of fans. I see a lot of interest around this game,
A lot of runs obviously being scored. The question comes

(49:11):
up every time we see a team play or teams
play internationally, when is Major League Baseball going to go
to city acts or why? But Mexico City does kind
of make sense in terms of regional interest. Could you
ever see Major League Baseball expanding south of the border?

Speaker 6 (49:29):
It's possible, I don't think it's terribly likely in the
near term, And honestly, Rich, part of the reason is
the score line from last night, the eleven home runs.
It's really hard to have a fair competitive environment at altitude.
Mexico City is at an even higher altitude than Denver.

(49:50):
As we saw yesterday, pitchers really struggle to get their
ball to spin well when you consider pitching at altitude
like that. So for me, Rich, it's a great question.
I just don't think we're going to see a full
time franchise base in Mexico in the next several years.
I do believe we're going to see continual play like this.

(50:12):
In fact, it's already written into the agreement of the
CBA that baseball is going to keep going back there.
So travel logistics wise, I just think competitively it would
be a real issue when you have one ballpark that
would cause such extreme numbers, again, even more extreme than
core steeled. But for this, I think it's a nice
reminder of, honestly, rich how close a lot of major

(50:35):
Mexican markets are to the US. This is not a
flight that's at all a real taxing adventure for these teams.
It's a closer flight and easier flight than going from
Seattle to Tampa. This isn't that's an American League trip
that's always been happening. So I think that logistics wise,
travel wise, it's great. Competitively it gets a little bit complicated,

(50:57):
but there's no question what an important mark Mexico is
to grow the game. We saw it during the World
Baseball Plastic and we're seeing it again this weekend.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
So JP, you talk about pitchers spinning the ball, a
guy that's spinning the ball right now is Clayton Kershaw.
Kershaw basically was given up for dead a couple of
years ago, saying, oh, we'll sign him to the obligatory
one year contract. There's not a lot of interest in
this guy right now. He's got as many wins as
the Oakland A's. He's five and one, he had seven

(51:26):
shutout and he's gave up two hits, nine strikeouts, no
walks yesterday in a one nothing game against the Cardinals.
Sometimes a guy like this you have to wait until
after he retires to fully appreciate his career. His career
era is the lowest of any starting pitcher in the
last one hundred years. Give us your perspective on the
career and where he stands all time. When we talk

(51:50):
about Clayton Kershaw.

Speaker 6 (51:52):
Greatest picture of the generation period, I think that you
can say that comfortably. Obviously got the World Series title
from twenty twenty that was so important to him. It
mattered so much to him. I really believe he was
unfairly criticized for a lot of those postseasons where the
three of us watched that team carefully during those years,

(52:13):
A lot of that was bullpens and ill timed swings
that were given up by the bullpen or later in
games that Clayton was staying in because the Dodgers didn't
trust the bullpen at that point. So I'm really glad
that he corrected that narrative once and for all. And
that was really the last mountaintop, because the regular season
performance has been unsurpassed in this era. I go back

(52:33):
to this too, and we think about where he was
maybe a decade ago or twelve or thirteen years ago.
His contemporary, the guy that he was compared to in
terms of going back and forth for cy Youngs was
Tim Linsecam. Yeah, and just think about the difference in
durability and the permanence of what Clayton has meant. And

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again we talk about the greats of this sport in particular,
it's doing it year after year after year and Linscom
dazzled for the years that he did, but his peak
was relatively short in the fullness of time. For Clayton,
he is now performing at again what's been the peak
that he's had earlier in his career. He's had to

(53:16):
reinvent himself as his stuff has changed. And Steven Rich
the Dodgers need him without Bueler. They just with Gonsolin
being in and out a little bit as a reliever
right now, is he a starter? They need Kershaw to
be Kershaw, and fortunately for them, he has been one
of the key people that have kept him and kept

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this entire team in the National League West race. At
a time when the Diamondbacks appear to be ascended.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Well, if anyone knows about extended dominances. John PALMERROSI, JP,
you're as strong as ever. We always appreciate the time,
and we're gonna check in with you next week. Thanks JP.

Speaker 6 (53:56):
I appreciate it, guys. And by the way, I did
check the upcoming college football schedule. I may have to
call in Rich. That Penn State Michigan game in November
looks pretty good. Rich.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Oh yeah, okay, well listen, we might have to put
something on the calendar here.

Speaker 6 (54:10):
All right, we're doing it. Sounds great. I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
There go hi, JP, that's John Paul Morosi Jonius there, okay,
great stuff. Yeah, I was watching yesterday kershaw Man. He
was filthy. He give me though.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
He was filthy yesterday in a one nothing game.

Speaker 6 (54:28):
All right.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Coming up on the other side, we're going to get
back to the NFL Draft and some of the fallout
as far as teams are concerned. Who really went out
of their way to blow this draft? We'll break it down.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Hartman and a Rich Armburner.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are live from
the tai Iraq dot Com studios. All right, so the

(54:50):
NFL Draft is in the books. Yeah, and there were
two teams I wanted to ask you about because they
did things that were highly unusual. I'm going to start
with the Chargers. Yeah, apparently the Chargers did not see
the championship game between Georgia and TCU. Final score of

(55:13):
that game was sixty five to seven Georgia. The reason
I mentioned it is they took two TCU receivers and
their quarterback. By the way, that has never happened before,
where a team and a single draft has selected a
quarterback and two skilled players from the same school all
in the same draft. Again, they must not have seen

(55:34):
that last game sixty five to seven. The Chargers and
Tom te LESCo and we know them well. Obviously you
were signed by this guy, so you know him very well.
They do have a way of doing things. But this
drafting of Dugan especially, there were so many quarterbacks that
went in this draft. In fact, in the first one

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hundred and fifty picks, a record number of quarterbacks were
actually taken in this draft. For a guy that was
runner up for Heisman and just had an incredible final
season at TCU. Well, remember Sunny Dykes comes in as
the new coach. He wasn't even really deemed the starting
quarterback at the start of the year, even though he
had been that previously. He gained that job and led

(56:14):
his team all the way to that championship game. But
were you surprised that he lasted as long as he did?
Concern you how many quarterbacks went before him? And what
do you make of this apparently married to what we
saw a year ago from TCU and these Chargers draft picks.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Well, I think it was smart. I think that what
we've learned over time is that when you pair quarterbacks
with their former receivers at the professional level, it leads
to a faster uptake by these players because they're used
to speaking their own language and their own locker room
from whatever college program they came from, and they help

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each other translate the new Playbrook. You've heard several guys
talk about this. You look at what happened with the
Bengals with Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow. You look at
what happened with Jalen Hurts and Devonte Smith. You look
at what's happened with Waddle and Tua in Miami. I
think this is really smart. I think it's really smart. Now,

(57:10):
do I expect Max Duggan to get a lot of playtime. No,
because you have Justin Herbert there, But having Max Duggan
as a competent backup for Herbert, who's shown the fact
that he can get hurt. He played through a lot
the ribs and the other injuries from last season.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
But Ken get hurt.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
He's not invincible and he takes some hits. Having Max Duggan,
who's worked before, with two receivers who could be stars
in this system. Quentin Johnston. Look what he did over
the course of that season was he's a star. I mean,
he is a star.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Well, he's another one of those big receivers. Oh yeah,
they love the big receivers. And then the other guy's
your speed guys.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Yeah, Darius bat thank you, yeah, Darius Davis, Daris Davis. Okay, So,
in my opinion, this is what's happening in Los Angeles.
They're looking at Mike Williams and their saying that guy,
for a long time was our big, strong, fifty to
fifty ball speedster on the outside, and he's just been
two injured too often. We need to bring in someone
like that.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
They did.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen was playing when I was there.
Keenan Allen has been in the league for a decade.
Man drafted in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, I mean it's it's look how much longer.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
He's way more yesterdays than he does tomorrow in the
NFL one.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
They picked up the option on his deal.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
So Darius Davis, you know he's going to potentially be
the replacement at the slot. So to me, this was
intelligent drafting because you're gonna get younger and much cheaper
at two positions you absolutely need to fulfill for the
future for Justin Herbert to have continued success with the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
All Right, I'm gonna pick on another team that you
played for. That would be the New England Patriots. It
became the first team since the two thousand Raiders to
draft a kicker and a punter in the same draft.
Of course, the Raiders did it with Janikowski and Lechler.
Lechlo will be in the Hall of Fame. Janakowski obviously
a great kicker for many years, so it actually was
a good duel of picks. But are you surprised that

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Bill Belichick would draft a kicker and a punter in
the same draft. And this is a critical year with
Aaron Rodgers deal finally getting done with the Jets, and
where the Bills are right now and the Dolphins. If
you're ranking these teams, the Patriots that are at the
bottom of the list, this was a critical draft. Does
that surprise you Belichick would use two of his picks

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to get a kicker and a punter.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
No, it doesn't surprise me because he zigs where everybody
else zags. And he has drafted special teamers. I mean,
he's drafted long snappers like he considers the special team
game to be among the most important aspects of football.
And by the way, just the way he spoke about
it when we were in squad meetings team meetings where

(59:50):
he would talk about the kicking game, you could tell
he cares.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
I mean and beyond many of.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
The coaches I played for, he cares. We spent a
lot of time working on kicking game stuff at practice
and it shows because that's a team routinely who shines
on special teams. So it doesn't surprise me. I'll tell
you what's amazing about the Patriots is they don't do
anything to get headlines and They've never wavered. Bill Belichick

(01:00:18):
has never cared if you like his draft. He's gonna
go by what they need and what's the best player available,
and they're gonna draft that way. So Chris Gonzalez a
falling star in this draft. They got great value getting
him at seventeenth overall, and they need a corner. You
look at some of these other picks, I mean, they

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kind of hit it out of park on Day two.
Like you said, they improve their special teams, although they're
going to get a low draft grade because there are
probably better picks out there, higher value picks than a
punter and a kicker on Day three. But you can't
knock it. The formula's worked for so many years. If
mac Jones is competent, this team has a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Well he's got a bank on Bill O'Brien. I mean,
he's got to get that offense right, because that offense
was not right a year ago. Does Belichick survive at
seven and ten, six and eleven season.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Yeah, yeah, Look, I've said it before. He can survive
two rough seasons and then the third of the season
after that, he'll then the conversation about him being in the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Patriots bar for a rough season. Is I mean they
have won a playoff game since Brady left, and even
Brady's last year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
They don't want true, but they did get to the
playoffs Mac Jones's rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Year, but haven't won a playoff game since his last
Super Bowl win I was twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
I get it, But think think about think about what
has happened since then. They got to the postseason, got
knocked out by the Titans twenty nineteen, Brady leaves, Cam
Newton COVID year. I mean, if you're Robber Kraft, maybe
you give the excuse like everybody's struggling with COVID, but
we really got hit hard at times and Cam Newton
got injured. Then you have Mac Jones get to the
postseason his rookie year, and if you look at it,

(01:01:55):
who they got knocked out by, embarrassed by by the
way the Buffalo Bills. They embarrassed them the final regular
season game against the Bills. So if I'm Robert Kraft,
I'm giving him two years to hit the rebuild button
at least because it's Bill Belichick. If he's proved nothing
at over over his tenure, is he knows how to
build a franchise. He did it in Cleveland. He did

(01:02:16):
it again in New England. He's trying to do it
again here in New England at Act two.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Beyond Brady all right, on the other side, I want
to get into who's in a better position right now,
the Jets with Aaron Rodgers or the Ravens with Lamar Jackson.
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We are watching here. You can see she's getting oriented
in the new dig Shirley Love. She just loves looking

(01:03:03):
in here at us.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
I know how cozy you guys are. We're so cozy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
This is out of necessity right now. It may not
always be this way, but for the show to work,
we are literally setting on top of now. I want
it to be so you hear me out of both
micro Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
Yeah, I guess sEH. I was literally watching. I was like,
we'll get out cozy.

Speaker 8 (01:03:22):
They are they're precious as they.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Talk, kind of fight but not really so cute.

Speaker 8 (01:03:29):
Well, this game is definitely definitely trending the Miami he
have tied the game. Max Strus hit two three pointers
in this third quarter to tie the game against the Knicks.
They are tied at sixty one eight minutes to go
in the third. But Jimmy Butler still a little quiet
for Jimmy Buckets. He's got thirteen points, seven rebounds. It's
Gay Vincent who is still leading Miami and scoring. He's

(01:03:52):
got fourteen points. Our Ja Barrett has seventeen points for
the Knicks. Jalen Brentson has fifteen points, but again tigh
game sixty one. This is game one between the Heat
and the Knicks. Game seven is going to be after
this between.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
The Warriors and the Kings.

Speaker 8 (01:04:05):
Tip off his set for three thirty pm Eastern time.
We'll move on to Major League Baseball. Imagine you're first
at bat of the year.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
And you hit a grand Slam.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Nice, nice, right, It.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
Doesn't get any better than that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:18):
That's outfielder Taylor Tremmel for the Mariners, but the Blue
Jays responded with five runs already So the Blue Jays
are on top five to four. They're about to start
the bottom of the third inning. Orioles beating the Tigers
to zero. They're about to start the fourth inning, and
it's the White Sox who have scored first against the
Rays one zero top of the second inning, and officially
the Marlins have beat the Cubs. Final score was four

(01:04:39):
to three. Last thing I'll tell you so you can
keep talking about the NFL. The Athletic is reporting that
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones hinted that the team could re
sign Ezekiel Elliott with all these draft you know, picks
that they had. His quote was, the ship hasn't sailed there.
We haven't made a decision at all as far as
our interest in Zeke. Nothing we did today changes that

(01:05:02):
I haven't ruled Zeke out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
And to quote back to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
All right, Monzie, thank you very much again. Tie score
right now between the Knicks and the Heat. Eight minutes
to go in the third quarter. Actually he just took
US sixty three to sixty one lead. So Knicks at
home would expect to win this game. But this Heat team,
by the way, if you're wondering, there was an eight
seed that actually made it all the way to the
NBA Finals. That was the Knicks back in nineteen ninety nine.

(01:05:28):
Was that shortened year. They ultimately lost that final, so
the Spurs, but they actually made it with Ben Gundy
jeff n Gundalow as their coach all the way to
without Ewing. By the way, it was hurt most of
that year. I didn't know that yet, and they were
in an eight seed and it got to the NBA Finals.
I didn't know that he got an eight seed to
the finals. I remember the time it's happened.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
I remember those Knicks teams being so dominant in the
East with Starks and Ewing and Anthony Mason and who
else I was the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Early nineties with pat Riley was a coach and everything
else Van Gundy. I don't know how they Yeah, it
was the scraps and Ewing was hert but they actually
pull it off.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
But this Heat team could be the next team to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Pull something like that off. They look awfully good. All right.
I want to get into because a big story this
week leading up to the draft was the fact that
the deal finally got done with Aaron Rodgers, the Packers
and the Jets. I said a week ago, and we
were talking about this rich that I would have given
up the two number twos to get the deal done,
just get it done. As it turned out, they gave

(01:06:33):
up one of those twos, swapped the first round picks,
and gave up what looks like potentially likely a first
round pick next year. And a lot of people are
just hammering the Jets that the Packers fleeced him in
this deal. I disagree. They needed to get him in
uniform asap. Don't worry about that. It's Aaron freaking Rogers

(01:06:57):
and the idea that you were getting. Well, yeah, gave
up a second this year in a first next and yeah,
this is Aaron Rodgers. He didn't upgrade yourself over Zach Wilson.
So I think they did the right deal. But I
want to compare their situation moving forward, the Jets to
that of the Ravens, who made Lamar Jackson the highest
paid player in the NFL sebats sing Jalen Hurts, who

(01:07:21):
had just briefly had that title. By the way, he
got it done without an agent, so he ends up
getting his money, but going into twenty twenty three, who's
in a better spot the Ravens with Lamar Jackson or
the Jets with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Well, I mean, if you're if you're looking at track record,
you would say Aaron Rodgers. But I mean Aaron's got
his downsides too. He's been recently injured. He had a
horrible time of it last season. Injuries to his hands,
injuries to his lower body. He had sore ribs at
one point. They didn't really quantify exactly how bad that

(01:07:59):
injury was, but it hampered him and you could tell
that he was completely out of sync with the offense, which,
by the way, all of a sudden had a lot
of new faces around, which he's going to experience again
in New York getting used to his new teammates. So
there's some downside there when you look at Lamar Jackson.
The injury bug obviously has bit hard past two seasons.

(01:08:19):
Lamar Jackson his game is predicated not just around what
he does in the pocket, but also him as a rusher,
and so if they don't protect him, well, if he
doesn't protect himself, well there's limitations, Like we've seen. Who's
got the better chance right now is such an interesting question.
I would say the Jets bizarrely enough, are a better constructed,

(01:08:44):
more balanced team this year than the Baltimore Ravens. They
have a better defense, they've got better skilled position players
on offense, adding Aaron Rodgers. If it is as simple
as you know, instant coffee, hot water and stir, then
the Jets are going to have one of the better
seasons in the AFC because, look, their record allowed them

(01:09:06):
to get a little bit of a softer scheduling even
though they were a very talented team and got stormed
out the gates. But you saw the problem. The weakness
in the armor was at the quarterback position. And everybody
said it like, if they could just get one of
these guys Wilson White Flacco to play just a little
bit over their head, they're gonna be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
But they couldn't. They got terrible QB play and they
fixed it well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
The health of these two quarterbacks, to me, is a
big question, huge huge With Aaron Rodgers, obviously, it's just
the fact that he will turn forty this year. Yeah,
he was talking openly, He was very forthcoming. I love
his interaction with the New York media admitting, you know,
I've been in Green Bay, you Brighten years a little
different media base in Green Bay. Then we're going to
see New York. But you try to be as fourth

(01:09:54):
coming as he possibly could. But he talked about looking
forward to the idea of being a forty year old
quarterback in the NFL. I don't know if he could
come close to duplicating with Tom Brady accomplished in his forties.
But he's got to stay healthy. And then as far
as far as Lamar Jackson, and this really the last
couple of years where he has finished the season injured,

(01:10:16):
you had to think to yourself, all right, an injury's
an injury, right, he can't play. But how much was
that just that he was hurt? And how much was
it the ongoing trauma, potentially physical and mental trauma of
trying to get this deal done to extend his deal
with the Ravens. Now that he is got that he
ends up as the highest paid playing in the league.

(01:10:36):
Are we going to see a motivated Lamar Jackson out
there playing sixteen seventeen games this year? Motivated? Certainly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I mean, if you're made the highest paid player in
the NFL, even if you wanted a fully guaranteed contract
in your contract fell below that line clearly to me
what went on here, and this is either by the
advice from the NFLPA or from trusted advisor that maybe
aren't going to get a cut of this check that

(01:11:03):
he's going to now cash with the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
But it was clear now that the draft was the
do date to get this done.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
I mean, it's very clear to me that Lamar Jackson
put it in his head I will get my contract
done before the draft in smartly so because I'll tell
you this right now, if all of a sudden that
deal isn't finalized by draft day and they locked the
war room door, if I'm Lamar Jackson, I'm sweating out
the next twenty four hours more so than my own

(01:11:32):
draft day, because what happens if the Ravens all of
a sudden go Okay, Lamar, you want to play hardball,
So will we guess what we're gonna do. We're gonna
go ahead and trade some of those picks that you
were asking us to trade to go and get Hopkins
d hop from Arizona, and we're gonna move up and
take a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
How does that feel like? That could very.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Realistically have been what the Baltimore Ravens were going to do,
or even maybe behind closed doors threatened they were going
to do. So it seems to me that Draft day
was always the day for Lamar Jackson to get the
thing done, and he did, and he's being rewarded for
it because he gets the biggest contract in NFL history.
He gets Zay Flowers with the twenty second overall pick.
So clearly Baltimore's building around Lamar for the future. They

(01:12:14):
brought in Odell Beckham Junior on the one year deal.
You have Rashab Bateman, which hopefully if he stays healthy
and he can do what he's been supposed to do
over the course of his career, he does, I mean,
this is a squad, and then throwing Mark Andrews, it's
a squad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
By the way they're showing Aaron Rodgers at Madison Square Garden.
They may want to escort him out of the building.
The Knicks are down eight all of a sudden, not
bringing the good karma. Interesting about this richest contract in
the NFL. So obviously the Deshaun Watson contract still stands
alone as the biggest fully guaranteed contract. But then you

(01:12:51):
had Jalen Hurds get his record deal, and then that
was short lived with the deal that Lamar Jackson got.
And of course we're still waiting on Joe Burrow and
Justin Herbert and the kind of deals they're going to get.
And meanwhile, the best quarterback in the league is Patrick Mahomes. Yeah,
now you know Mahomes. I just wonder, is Mahomes going
to follow the Tom Brady formula where Brady was the

(01:13:13):
best quarterback in the league, winning Super Bowls and was
never the highest paid quarterback in the league, willing to
sacrifice some dollars in an effort to bring in as
much talent around him as possible, or at some point
as Patrick Mahomes and his age at least Steinberg saying,
maybe it's time to relook this contract now that our
quarterback is like the sixth, seventh or eighth biggest contract

(01:13:36):
amongst quarterbacks in the league, when he is clearly now
at the top of the mountain. I just wonder what
the mindset would be for a guy like Mahomes. Is
he a Tom Brady like guy or is he like
most quarterbacks saying, Hey, if I'm at the top of
the mountain, my salary should reflect that stature. Yeah, boy,

(01:13:59):
great question.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
I mean he's only in what year, three year two
of this contract that he just signed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Right, got a long way to go.

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
They signed this long term deal for half a billion
dollars whatever it might be.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Ten year, four hundred and fifty million dollars. And the
deal was this, It was one hundred and forty one
million dollars guaranteed at signing. So of course some of
that will be separated over the span of the contract,
some of it will be given up front. I believe
at signing he got something over sixty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
That's pennies compared to what they're signing now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
But but well, even those guarantees are like the amount
you get at signing versus what you collect over time.
That money is guaranteed, but it's spread out over the
course of the contact a contract after the signing bonus.
The point is this, Yeah, well, maybe the annual value
of the contract pales in comparison. He's he's still locked
in there with a pretty good amount of money. But

(01:14:55):
I'll say this, if they repeat success this year, right,
even if on a tear like a like a ten
to one season type tear. If the Kansas City Chiefs
are smart, they'll restructure before he wins his next Super
Bowl because what price tag do you put on a
guy who, since he signed his most recent quarter contract,
wins you two Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Well look what the Eagles did with Jalen Hurts. Yeah,
I mean just you know, he had one run, yeah,
one run, even win it, just win it. And they
had him at second round money and made him the
highest paid quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
In the league.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Because again, all these quarterback contracts will age gracefully. And
the look in the situation in Kansas City, it's only
going to get worse after Burrow and Herbert sign because
that's just going to push the number even higher.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
All right, Rice Young was the number one pick in
this draft. How long will it take for him and
Frank Reich to deliver a championship? Because ultimately that's the goal,
right to win the Super Bowl? Is that the right
duo to get the job done. This is Fox Sports Sunday,
Leeve Arvin and Rich Armurder. Once again, this is Fox

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when it was all said and done, all the concerns
about si stature height did not matter. The Carolina Panthers
traded up, as it turned out, to get one guy,

(01:16:45):
Bryce Young. That is why they traded up. You know,
when we do. You don't make a trade like that
unless you have your mindset on who it is that
you won in the draft. Frank Reich was brought in
as the new coach of the Carolina Panthers, and he's
certainly a guy that knows quarterbacks. He was a quarterback,
He's handled a lot of quarterbacks over the years, was
a quarterback coach offerensive coordinator before becoming a head coach

(01:17:08):
in this league, and of course had a carousel a
coach at a quarterbacks in his time as the head
coach of the Indianapolis Colts. And I'm sure he looks
at Bryce Young as a guy that I'm not gonna
have to worry about a revolving door. This is a
guy that we can now build around for the next
decade plus to be our quarterback. Are you as certain
as the Carolina Panthers and Frank Reich are about the

(01:17:32):
fact that they have drafted a quarterback that is not
just a franchise quarterback but a championship level quarterback in
terms of an NFL career.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Well, if he does what he did at Alabama, they
have a good chance of this thing really working. You
know what this kind of reminds me of in division,
Also what the Jacksonville Jaguars did around Trevor Lawrence bringing
in Christian Kirk. They recent signed Calvin Ridley, but that
was this pass offseason, you know, having Zay Jones Jamal Agnew,

(01:18:07):
like they had some talent around Trevor Lawrence in receiver
and then Travis at ten. He didn't have his rookie
season due to injury the Urban Ameyer fiasco, by the way,
but in year two with Trevor Lawrence, with Doug Peterson
like a steady head coach at the tiller, like all
of a sudden, everything everything started working for Jacksonville last season.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
It there were some.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Bumps in the road. It wasn't perfect, but it worked.
Like I look at Frank Reich as being that steady
hand at the wheel. I look at the help they
have around this offense with Adam Feelen and DJ Chark
and now bring in Jonathan Mingo was their second pick.
He was a very talented possession type receiver out of

(01:18:51):
the slot for Mississippi last year. Big strong target, not
super fast, but runs great routes. They got Miles Sanders
in free agency. If Bryce Young can play the position
at the NFL level, this could work.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Man, all right, But here's the question about Frank w Reich.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Now, when he was with the Chargers organization, they had
a veteran quarterback obviously in Philip Rivers. And when you
look at his run in Indianapolis, the quarterback he had
the most success with. What's Philip Rivers? Rivers had that
great year for him, Well, Andrew Luck was really good
for him too. Okay, but my point is those are
veteran quarterbacks, yeah, correct, And you have a rookie and

(01:19:30):
no matter how talented you are, no matter what level
you played at in your collegiate career, there is an
adjustment period. Obviously, we saw a Peyton Manning who played
in the SEC and set all these records and then
struggled mightily as a rookie before turning things around his
second year. What kind of mindset does Frank Reich have?

(01:19:51):
What kind of patience does he have in terms of
the obvious developmental time it will take for Bryce Young
to hopefully and their sake, get to that in the
level oh tremendous amount of patience.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
I mean, he was the offensive coordinator for the Eagles
when Carson Wentz came aboard, right, you know, he was
the offensive coordinator for the Eagles when Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Foles had to take over in a Super Bowl. Like,
this guy is a talented quarterback, whisper.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
He got a lot out a lot of the quarterbacks
that he's coached over the course of his career. Veteran
or young player. Bryce Young's in good hands. And by
the way, Hayden Hurst, I forgot to mention him at
tight end. I mean, this is a stacked offense. It
just comes down to whether or not Reich can get
Bryce Young up to the NFL speed or vanilla the
playbook enough to make this work all right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Coming up on the other side, the Los Angeles Lakers
advance to the second round of the playoffs. How much
of a threat are they to win a championship. This
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The way tire buying should be tomorrow is May first.
May is sort of a weird month in sports, very
much because you have the NFL Draft over and now

(01:21:22):
we really sort of have this lull as far as
the NFL is concerned. We've out all the build up
for the draft and there you know, there's a few
pieces that will be moving around, but nothing's going to
be that earth shattering. This is why they really hype
up mayl levels. We'll have the announcement of the NBA schedule.
I'm not exactly sure why that is so critical. We
already know who they're playing, we know where they're playing.

(01:21:44):
The only question is what dates are they playing, right,
because everything else is predetermined on where you've finished in
the standing, So they try to make a hype out
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
So you're sort of in a little bit of limbo
with the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
And then as far as the NBA is concerned, you know,
we're finally getting into the second round the playoffs, and again,
these matchups are good matchups, these four matchups. We'll see
how these playoffs. You know, Baseball, you know it's May,
you know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Mean, wall, Yeah, we're Look, anybody who's gonna make bold
proclamations about the baseball season in April?

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Yeah, I mean because look, if you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Are embedded as a fan of any team, just wait.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
It is way too early.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
The season's way too long to assume you know anything
about the direction things are going yet.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Golf, you got the PGA Championship, which is the least
of the four majors. There is no major in tennis
in the month of May.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
So it's sort of like the stepsister.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
You know, it's not one of those five months. As
far as the sports calendar is concerned. What it does
give us an opportunity, though, is to dig a little
deeper into other things. And right now, the Los Angeles
Lakers are waiting for tonight's matchup between the Kings and
Warriors to find out who they will play in the
second round the playoffs. The Lakers playoff series win against

(01:23:01):
the Grizzlies was their first playoff series win outside of
the Bubble since twenty twelve. That's a long time for
the Lakers, a team that in their first sixty two
years of existence were in the NBA finals half those years,
thirty one out of sixty two. Think about not just
the playoffs. Yep, they made it to the NBA finals

(01:23:22):
thirty one of their first sixty two years in the NBA.
Lebron James, yep, and he's already an uncharted territory in
terms of what he has accomplished in his twentieth season
in the NBA. But as we mentioned earlier, he's had
a hard time doing it back to back. And Anthony Davis,

(01:23:44):
every time he goes down it looks like it could
be a season ender. Right. There's something about Anthony Davis
and how he reacts when you know, he gets hit
or something goes to the ground, he grabs something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Well, it happened in I want to say it was
the opening game of this series against Memphis or this
last series against Memphis, where he had a stinger and
he left the game like I can't feel anything right
before the half and literally said that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
He mouthed it, but we all know what he said.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Yeah, or I should say he said it to a
trainer on his way off the court, but we could.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Read his lips.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
What's crazy about that is there are certain players, and
I played with some of them, who when they're hurt,
you know they're hurt because they don't miss games, they
don't miss time.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
They are hurt. And then there are certain players who
when they're.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Hurt, yeah, yeah, well they're hurt, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
It's a different thing. Anthony Davis, when he's hurt, he's hurt.
It's just it's a it's a completely different flavor. When
Lebron James is hurt, I think he's hurt. I think
Lebron is a missing time unless he really honestly can't go.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
And I feel that way about a couple of guys.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
I mean, Jannis, there's no question in my mind that
that that was a severe back injury. Anytime you honest
is off the court, There's no doubt in my mind
it's because he's nursing something serious. There's a lot of
guys like that, but Anthony Davis, I mean, look, if
he's going to be the backbone of your team moving forward,
you are going to struggle because that's a guy who

(01:25:16):
when he was the backbone of a Pelicans team, they
were hapless because they couldn't count on him. But as
a co star or sometimes as like the star of
an offense or a defense for that matter, when he's
on the court and he has other stars around him
Lebron help, I mean, then he really shines because the

(01:25:37):
focus doesn't have to be entirely on ad to get
the job done.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
I heard somebody say the potential matchup of Sabonis and
Anthony Davis would be the softest matchup of talented big guys.
You know both guys obviously NBA all start talent, but
not exactly the toughest guys. I'd look at this Laker
team and I'm thinking of myself the X fact obviously

(01:26:00):
these Lebron James. You have Lebron James, and the supporting
crew has performed. Hatchamura came up early and then the
D'Angelo Russell was lights out in that game six forty
point blowout of the Memphis Grizzlies. But then you also
think about that Grizzlies series and you say, after the
Lakers went belly up in Game two, which was ugly,

(01:26:23):
when Ja Morant wasn't playing, and then Dylan Brooks opened
his mouth, how much did that do to propel the
Lakers to eventually win that series? As opposed to how
much is that that the Lakers are coming around as
a team that on paper, at least they could be

(01:26:44):
the best team on paper in the Western Conference. If
you look at Denver right now, you know, if you
look at Phoenix certainly the Sun's team we saw yesterday
where they don't have a lot of depth on that team.
They gave up a lot of depth in order to
make the for Durant. And then you have either Sacramento
or the Warriors. The Lakers right now, with this bench,

(01:27:07):
the guys that they were able to acquire since the
All Star Break, on paper, they look like the best
team in the West. The question is will it translate
on the court. And I'm still a wait and see guy,
And a big part of that is in order for
them to get there, they need Lebron to be able
to perform at the highest level Throati Series as he

(01:27:30):
did all those years in Cleveland and Miami and his
return to Cleveland and as he was able to do
in the Bubble and winning that championship for the Lakers.
I'm not sure that he can still do that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Well, there's not a lot of buying from Vegas yet
in what you're saying, because they're plus one thousand on
most books to win a championship. But what about out
of the West, out of the West to appear in
the NBA Finals after watching Phoenix last And the problem
with Phoenix right now is two of your three big
stars are.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
On the down side of the career, Durant and Chris Paul.
I mean, obviously Booker is still there. But who's better
in the West, is it? I mean, well, I'll give
you that right now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Among the betting odds, there are three teams that are
slated ahead of them to win the championships. So the
Denver Nuggets at plus five hundred, the Phoenix Suns at
plus five fifty, the Golden State Warriors at plus nine hundred.
Over the odds that are shown currently for the Lakers.
See so I mean, I guess my point is, Look,
that's Vegas, is what you're saying though in theory like

(01:28:37):
on paper, true, yeah, but you have to this is
what you'd have to guarantee me in order to get
me on the side to believe it's even possible. Lebron
James and Anthony Davis cannot miss another single game like
that is one thing that it's like, not even a
single minute that they're needed. They can't miss time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Well, they not only can't miss a game, but they
can't take off a game, right and we saw that
even in this last series.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Can't happen. The other thing that has to happen is
Austin Reeves and Rui Hachimra have to be who we
think they are through that first series, which are unbelievably talented. Well,
I shouldn't say bench depth because Reeves have cracked the lineup,
but Hochimra off the bench, like, you need to get
that level of play out of them for the remainder

(01:29:25):
of the postseason. If you can promise me these two things,
which are insane promises to try to make given the
recent injury history with Lebron James and Ad and the
fact that these two who I just mentioned, Reeves and
Hachamra are so untested in the postseason. I mean, look,
that's the reason why Vegas is showing what they're showing.

(01:29:47):
It's because nobody has any faith that that's going to
be the case.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Steve, all right, right now, if you had a choice
in the moment of two aging superstars, okay, which duo
would you choose? Lebron James and Anthony Davis or Kevin
Durant and Chris Paul And let me throw in one more, Yeah,
Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. So they're all alive in

(01:30:13):
the West. All these guys are Hall of famers. All
of these guys have had, you know, tremendous careers. Right today,
if you were to choose two players, which duo would
you choose?

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
I mean, look, I again it again, and now it
has to be A D and Lebron.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
I understand your point. I understand by the way, A
D and Lebron right now, I still think have around them.
I don't know how they put this bench together because
they were garbage earlier. I think they have the best
supporting cast around, and Golden State has weapons. I'm not
a big Jordan Poole guy, but I think they're I mean,
and we've seen Reeves step up, We've seen hot Ta

(01:30:56):
Murrow step up. We've seen D'Angel Russell step up. We
don't know yet, like it's so untested.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
But what I do know is that I do trust
that tandem more than I trust Kevin Durant and Chris Paul.
I know that I do trust. I do trust them more,
I mean to a greater, lesser degree. But that's the
close call for me. Is Klay Thompson and Steph Curry.
The amount of championships they've won together, the fact that
at any point either one of them are both can

(01:31:22):
get so hot from three point land that they are
unbeatable when they're firing off like that. But yeah, I mean,
if what would make me feel more comfortable is having
Lebron and ad if I'm picking amongst those three, but
a lot more goes into I think overall, the Phoenix
Suns are a more talented team than the Lakers. And

(01:31:44):
I mean that because Booker has been incredible. It hasn't
just been about Paul and Durant. I feel similarly about
the Golden State Warriors, because you had in Draymond Green
into that equation.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
It hasn't just been those two stars.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
He's been the third wheel and has played fantastic basketball,
being kind of the bully and the defender throughout the
course of their run together. So it's not just choosing
amongst these superstar duos. There's so much more when you
widen the picture and you look at the whole thing
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Back and forth we go between the NBA playoffs and
the NFL Draft on the other side, the single biggest
risk pick in this NFL draft, did the team make
the right decision? We'll tell you who it is. This
is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and rich Arburger, Fox

(01:32:31):
Sports Sunday, and we are live from the tai Iraq
dot Com studios. Right inside four minutes to go down
the fourth quarter and the Heat hanging on Yeah to
a one ninety four lead over the New York Knicks.
This would be a huge win on the road for
the Heat and right now it's an eight seed.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
It feels like watching the Tennessee Titans in the fourth
quarter with the touchdown lead. They are just milking the
clock right, they are leaning on their their on their
running game. They literally just dribbled at the just beyond
the three point arc for twenty seconds before scoring their

(01:33:10):
most recent battle.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
And the Knicks just got called for an offensive foul.
So suddenly the Heat with an eight point lead, three
seventeen to go in the fourth and possession and possession.
So we'll keep our eye on that NBA matchup, of
course later on. I can't wait to watch this game tonight,
Kings Warriors in Sacramento. You talk about a crowd that's
gonna have an impact on a game, you know, I

(01:33:33):
love it when it announces. You watch a game, right, oh,
listen to the crowd and you're like, I'm not really
hearing it. No, no, no, no. In Sacramento, you didn't even
have to say that. I mean, for network programming, you
even watch these games and they try to keep a
little balance. There is no balance. That crowd in Sacramento
was so loud in those first couple of games when

(01:33:54):
they beat the Warriors. I can't even imagine what it's
going to be like tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
I disagree, man like nor I nowadays especially I can
hear the crowd regardless of where the games are being played,
because of how deconditioned I was to the ambient sounds
of a stadium prior to the pandemic, and how much
I missed it during the pandemic. Like I remember watching
broadcasts and when the when the announcer be like, oh wow,

(01:34:19):
the crowd's really into it. You know, it's Collinsworth and
al Michael's from years past on NBC. It's Sunday Night football.
It's an important down in distance play third and fifteen.
You know, a team's trailing by three, it's late in
the fourth quarter, and like the crowd you can just
barely hear, but you can hear Alan Chris, maybe they're
getting a little bit louder at their voices or you know,
Troy and but whoever. Like, it's one of those things

(01:34:40):
where it's one of those things where I didn't realize
how important that was to the broadcast until we were
in the bubble, until stadiums were empty and ballparks had cutouts.
I was like, oh my god, Like, the crowd in
terms of the broadcast is so important. It sounds like
you're doing it from like an empty It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
So so yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
It's louder than any other place in the NBA during
the postseason, than it was in Sacramento, than it is
anywhere else. But I mean the garden right now, are
you kidding me? With the home team trailing by eight,
I mean, you turn this on. The crowd is living
and dying on every possession right now. The lead's just
been extended though, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
That he just went up by ten now inside three
minutes ago. The heat are taking over this game at
Madison Square Garden against the Knicks. All right. Getting back
to the NFL Draft, without question, the biggest risk pick
was not unexpected, but Anthony Richardson fourth overall to the
Indianapolis Colts. By the way, Jim Ersay, the owner of

(01:35:46):
the team, really went out on a limp. This guy's
a whack job. I like him though, he's a good guy.
He put out after they drafted Anthony Richardson on his Twitter,
Hey do you think we should draft Will Levis? You know,
I mean he was being goofy. And then on top
of that, he said that had India had the number
one overall pick, they still would have taken Anthony Richardson,

(01:36:10):
which is all great to say, if you're the owner
of the team, but you've got a rookie head coach
and Shane Steichen, and right now, if you look at
their quarterback roster, it's not like Kansas City had already
Alex Smith. They just signed Gardner Minshew. You got Nick
Foles and you've got Sam Ellinger. Yep, those are your
quarterbacks right now for the Colts. So it's not like

(01:36:30):
you've got some established guy to sort of hold the
place while you try to develop Anthony Richardson. If you're
Shane Steichen, another guy you know from his coaching days
with the Chargers, yep, you're a rookie head coach. You
got an owner on the record saying this is the
best player in this drap period. And you don't have

(01:36:52):
a lot of experience a quarterbacks to fall back on.
I guess Nick Foles has experience, but we haven't seen
a whole lot of Nick won that Super Bowl several
years ago with Philadelphia. How much What do you do
with Anthony richards I mean, do you just throw him
to the fire immediately? No?

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
No, no, Bobby, who is starting a quarterback?

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Well, in the meantime, I think you start Gardner Minshew.
I think that's your only choice. Wow, I think well.
And by the way, it's a new system for Minshew,
new coach. I don't know what Shane Stycken's bring into that.
Darn Minshew is not a terrible placeholder. Gardner Minshew has
won football games, in big games in the NFL. Look,
he is not a starting quarterback. He's a backup and

(01:37:34):
that's exactly the reason why he's there. Frankly, that's the
reason why Nick Foles is there as well. He's been
a career backup outside of moments that that's what you have.
You have a couple of veterans in the room who've
been in some huge moments, have been a part of
some big winning moments in the NFL recently. Who can
show Anthony Richards in the ropes? And why you have

(01:37:55):
Nick Foles? I mean, how are you going to keep
Nick Foles?

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
I meanly, maybe he's on the chopping block now that
the draft has come and gone. I mean Sam Ellinger.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
I mean, if he's in a quarterback room with Gardner
Minshew and Sam Ellinger, how much is he actually going
to learn?

Speaker 4 (01:38:13):
Who's that I mean talking about Anthony Richards?

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Oh yeah, well, I mean, he'll learn a lot. I
don't look, it doesn't matter who the surrounding cast is
that you're you're talking about. You're talking about a guy
who's played high level football for years now. And again,
do you trust Gardner Minshew as much as you trust
to Nick Foles? Maybe as like a veteran counsel in
the room. Maybe not, But is he going to play

(01:38:37):
better for you while you're waiting for Richardson to catch up?
I'd argue, yeah, So I think that's what they would
do if if one's got to go, you got these
four its Ellinger, Richardson a Minshew. Moving forward, it would
be Foles would be the one who falls off for me.
But going back to the Indianapolis Colts draft, like at
number four overall, I kind of feel like they did

(01:38:58):
this the right way, like in terms of what I
saw at the college level and the type of athlete
Anthony Richardson is, and you know, the immediate impact it
is to have a dual threat quarterback come into a system.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
I like the pick. I think.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
I mean, if we're going to say, between him and
Will Levis, who would you rather, again, not knowing Will
Levis could go On and have a Hall of Fame career.
For all we know, Richardson could stink. But I mean today,
if you're asking me today, I think they made the
right choice.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
So I was going back and I needed to familiarize
myself with Anthony Richardson at Florida because I really wasn't
paying a whole lot of attention to the Florida Gators
this year. Why would I? So I went back and
I was looking at some highlights and low lights. Some
of the pluses of mine is with Anthony Richardson. The athleticism,
obviously is there off the charts. What is not there,

(01:39:48):
obviously is his ability to consistently deliver the ball where
it's supposed to be delivered.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
That's a little bit of a misnown and that well
I was watching.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
I mean they were showing situations where he's doing some
checkdowns and guys are open and he's just not putting
the ball where it's supposed to be. What again, it
was his first full year as a start. He's twenty
years old. I'm just wondering what Shane Stiken can do,
I mean, in helping to develop, because unless he can
get him to that level, it's going to be a

(01:40:19):
big challenge for him to be successful at the NFL level. Oh,
there's no question about it. But look at his past.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Shane Steiken has worked with Justin Herbert yep as a
young offensive coordinator in this league. He's worked with Jellen
Hurts as you know, as he's cut his as loll.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
Those guys are sixty five percent passers in college. I
understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
But that's the reason why I said I'll push back
a little bit here because Anthony Richardson when you turn
on the film, his receivers let him down a lot,
a lot tight ends, wide receivers, well placed, balls dropped.
I mean, look, was it every time?

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Are you right that the appraisal and what should be
factored in is that he also was off the money
or off the I'm with some of these throws also, yeah, true,
but he I mean if you look up the drops
that Florida had in some key moments, I mean he
would paint a guy in the chest and it would
just bounce off a face mask. You would talk about

(01:41:15):
like a touch drow to the sideline beyond thirty five
yards forty yards, beautiful high arching pass drop right in
the bread basket and through the elbows of a waiting
receiver trying to guide this thing in.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
It's just it was a frustration.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
I'm sure of his and that coaching staff there with
the Gators that at the NFL level it shouldn't rear
its head as much you would you would assume. I mean,
don't get me wrong. They're a little light at receiver
outside of Pittman Junior, but these are pros. This is
the best college football has to offer at the NFL level.
Even the third or the second receiver on a team

(01:41:50):
on a team with bad receiving depth should be better
than what he had talent wise.

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(01:42:15):
let's find out what is trending right now, Monsei. It
looks like we got a big upset Game one in
this Nick's Heat series.

Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
Are we surprised?

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Not really?

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Ran?

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
Yeah? Like I reuilize the Heat lost I know first
playing Gage, we never have played playing but the.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Way they played the Bucks though, I mean that was
astounding in their com with a full head of steam
in this series.

Speaker 5 (01:42:41):
Yes, but what's trending is not Jimmy. No, because there
was a scary moment.

Speaker 8 (01:42:46):
You guys didn't see me. You guys were, you know,
all cozied up, and you didn't see that. I threw
my hands up. I was like, I can't believe it.
About five minutes left into the fourth quarter, Jimmy seemed
to have rolled his right ankle.

Speaker 5 (01:42:58):
It's like he got stuck on Josh Mart. You guys didn't.
You guys were chatting and I was like making.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
A bunch of him, Hey, I look at him.

Speaker 8 (01:43:06):
Oh no, I'm gonna give you the play. At five
minutes to go, he went in for a close jumper,
but he seemed to get stuck his right ankle under
Josh Hart. He was on the floor for several minutes.
You could tell he was in pain. They went to
a time out because he couldn't get up. Got up,

(01:43:26):
did both free throws, made them and you could see
him kind of limping as he was running.

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
But he stayed in the game.

Speaker 8 (01:43:33):
Why the Knicks did not the next play go at him.

Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
They did it. They did it. They let him kind
of just wobble. He stayed in the game.

Speaker 8 (01:43:40):
He's got twenty five points and eleven rebounds. The Heat
are gonna pull this one off one oh seven to
ninety nine, thirteen seconds to warn the game.

Speaker 5 (01:43:48):
But he was on the floor.

Speaker 8 (01:43:49):
For so long holding onto his ankle, you thought something
way more than just the sprain.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
But he's there. This is this is why you love Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Well, this is what I was talking about with Lebron
and like the difference between Lebron is when he's hurt,
he's hurt. When he's hurt, he's got a paper yeah cut.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
But well, Julius Randall, guys, he's he's really hurt, and
he he he'll play, he'll muscle through some stuff. And
you're right about Randall. I mean that's that. Yeah, that
could be a fact they showed. Yeah, he's not happy.

Speaker 8 (01:44:21):
There's several people at this game, including Aaron Rodgers of
course in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
He's brought some good vibes.

Speaker 5 (01:44:28):
Yeah, he's there, Chris Rock is there.

Speaker 8 (01:44:30):
Dwayne Wade with his wife was there. Yeah, Martha Stewart,
everybody's there, guys, we should be.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
At Madison Square Garden and that is for sure.

Speaker 8 (01:44:42):
But luckily, like I said, Jimmy played even though he
was hobbling up and down the court the last few minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
So hopefully it's nothing crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:44:50):
And that he can play in Game two. But yes,
Miami's gonna win Game one. We're gonna get Game seven
right right after this game between the Kings and the Warriors.

Speaker 5 (01:44:58):
Who do he has got game seven?

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
I mean Kings to me, like I said this yesterday
on Fox Sports Saturday, look that if you like the
Kings on the point spread, because I think it's one
point to spread.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
This game goes to Sacramento and they win it, and
it could be it could be by a large margin.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
I mean, that's a tough place to win right now.
By the way, if the Warriors do lose tonight, is
that officially over for the Warriors?

Speaker 5 (01:45:25):
Like the dynasty?

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Yeah, I mean remember last year they came out of
nowhere last I know, like no one was picking the
Warriors to win the championship. What are those contracts? Football
gods for whatever reason decided to smile on them and
they ended up winning a championship again. But if they
go down, I mean, they got contracts locked in for
a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:45:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
Now they're paying step over fifty million a year, That's
what I mean the next couple of years. There's no
way out of that. How long are they signed through?
I think?

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
Okay, yeah, it's Curry's deal expires in twenty six, Clay's
deal expires in twenty four. Yeah, so I mean there's
a way out there. Draymond's deal expires in twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Yeah. So yeah, you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
But they get bounced in the first round. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
It's it's the end of the road. They gave Jordan
Poole all that money, waste of money. Wow, you know
doesn't like Jordan Poole. Who is Michael Thompson really? Yeah?
You know Clay's dad. I was talking to Michael about
the Warriors and he's like, yeah, he is not a
Jordan Poole fan. He cannot believe they gave him.

Speaker 6 (01:46:28):
All that money.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Way, and neither does Draymond Green because he punched them
in the face of the practice.

Speaker 8 (01:46:33):
It was delimber that right, So maybe mister Thompson was
like you that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Exactly. That's it. Back to you guys. All right, thanks
mon Seeing Wow, yeah, he's not a big fan. Not
a big fan.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
Well, listen, I it's impossible to like everyone on a team.
It's impossible for all the stars to get together. I
think if there's one thing that I will ultimately give
a ton of credit to Steve Kerk for is managing
some insane personalities over the course of the set.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Last year was such an especially without Kevin Durant, because
you know what really happened. They won that first championship
right before Durant. The next year they win seventy three
games one and the Caps win three in a row,
and then they pick up Durant and somehow those two
championships that Durant was like, yeah, was it really Steph

(01:47:23):
and Clay and Draymond or was that Kevin Durant who
played great? And when back to back finals MVPs, then
they go off the cliff. Durant, you know, they had
the worst wreaking the league one year, then they got
bounced and then to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
Yet he was out for two years, No I know,
but that was it. So he got hurt in the postseason.
Well in Toronto win and then Clay was out the
entire year and that was the year that they.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
Come for two years because then Curry got hurt that season.
Two years remember, so twenty twenty they both were out,
yeah yeah, yea yeah, and then twenty one he Clay
was still out yep. And then last year obviously he
came back mid season. They end up winning a championship.
So look, they it's frosting on the cake as far
as they're concern. But we are getting ready for that
matchup and that should be a heck of a matchup

(01:48:10):
coming up here. I want to stay with the NFL
Draft here for a second. We're just talking about the
Indianapolis Colts and how you handle a quarterback like Anthony Richardson.
There were a couple of surprises in this draft running back.
You know, the Detroit Lions certainly got a lot of
looks when they took a back that was not deemed

(01:48:32):
a three down back with the twelfth overall pick in
the draft. So what happened here? Bjhon Robinson. We knew
was going to be a potential top pit ten pick,
which he was, but why did the Lions do what
they It's confounding. I here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
I give the Detroit Lions one of the lowest grades
in this draft. Now, it doesn't mean that Gibbs can't
go on and become a future Hall of Famer. He
certainly can. But I'm saying, you know, if you if
you look where where they could have taken Bijon Robinson.
I guess you could make the argument that if Gibbs

(01:49:14):
ends up working out and they a mere Gibbs and
and they get all that draft capital and some of
those picks work out, well, then they'll look like geniuses.
But what if they don't. That's kind of my point
about risk versus reward. Okay, Bijehn Robinson is one of
the most surefire running backs to leave college football since
Ricky Williams, and and you're and you're, you're, you're skipping

(01:49:38):
on him to get some capital to go down and
pick Gibbs. This could all blow up in your face.
I just thought it was too cute. I think they
outthought the room and then you saw like the war
room cameras pick up the celebration because maybe they maybe
they spotlighted Gibbs as a guy they absolutely wanted, and
they were hoping that they could trade back because they

(01:49:59):
knew he wouldn't be taken in the top ten, and
they felt comfortable at twelve, but were nervous and maybe
maybe maybe they get them. I'm astounded that they did this.
I think there is no value. Even Bijon Robinson at
five to Atlanta was a mistake, in my opinion. I
don't think there's any value to take a running back
anywhere near the top ten. And that has nothing to

(01:50:19):
do with how great they are or could potentially be
in the NFL. They're just so corner, left tackle, quarterback.
I mean, I mean, let's go down the list, wide, receiver,
edge rusher. I can name five positions that have way
more positional value than running back just sitting here thinking
about it. I mean, you can make the argument for

(01:50:41):
defensive tackle before you get to before you get to
running back.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Because especially last year's Lions team arguably the worst defense
in the rule. My goodness, I'm so shocked. I mean,
take a defense, defense and you had not much else.
They won as many games as they did because they're off.
Was that good?

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
A lot of people were, like Chris Gonzalez is sitting there.
I mean, I can't believe they didn't take him. I agree,
like they needed help on the back end of that defense,
and they had running back.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
And think about this, they came in, they had a
couple of ones, a couple of twos, couple of threes.

Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
They could have moved up in this draft, no question.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
They had the mechanism to move up and get a
super stud on the defensive side of the football, and
they didn't, And they use their first pick on a
running back. They ended up getting Handon Hooker. I like
Hendon Hooker. He's not going to probably play much this year,
and he is twenty five years old. He's the same
age as Sam Darnold, by the way, but I like

(01:51:36):
him a lot. I mean as a quarterback of the future,
although he's almost as old as Jared Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
Yeah, what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
But this was a golden opportunity for an organization that's
so starved to get back into relevance. Having the season
they had a year ago, really a breakout here and
have all these draft picks in the first three rounds
and you're looking at at their picks and like, what
was the game plan here? I mean, they signed h
who was it? I would have gone defense, defense, defense, defense, defense.

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
They signed Montgomery right right, you know they could have
gotten a guy like charbon A Sharbonay later. I mean
like they I'm saying, like in terms of draft picks,
Montgomery obviously with the defense.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
Yeah, that's how bad they were.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Look if you want to, My point is, I'm trying
to justify the running back position, like if you wanted
to draft a running back, like that was a goal
of yours, Like if there's one thing we need to
concentrate on, Yeah, positional value is important, but we do
want a running back, Like you're gonna you're gonna go
first of all, you're gonna go with Gibbs instead of
b John Robinson, and you're gonna do it in the
first round. I mean, there could have been potential for

(01:52:46):
Gibbs to fall out of the first round in the
first place. I just don't understand the whole thing. We'll see.
I will say this, the Detroit Lions, over the course
of time that Dan Campbell has been the head coach,
have nothing but doubters, and he's proved them wrong just
about at every turn. So maybe we've got this wrong.

(01:53:07):
Maybe somehow, every single analyst who's observed the draft and
has given the Lions, like I did, a low grade.
Feels different. Maybe they feel differently in house, and maybe
they'll turn things around defensively. But they didn't take a
single defender until their fourth pick. They got Branch out
of Alabama, solid player, but they only added what was it,

(01:53:28):
Broderick Martin out of Western Kentucky later, and that was.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
It Western Kentucky. I don't know. I mean, I thought
the Lions were just gonna go knee deep into defense.
That's what I saw from twenty twenty tweet twenty twenty two.
A big need on the defensive side, all right. On
the other side, one team was so confident that they
really had a set roster that their second pick in

(01:53:54):
the draft was a kicker. That's why you say, we really,
we really don't need anything. But this team may have
overlooked the most important position. We'll talk about the forty Niners.
Are they really set at quarterback? This is Fox Sports Sunday.
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(01:54:17):
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on several occasions. If you eliminate quarterback, their roster is
the equal or superior of every other team in the league.
Doubt if you take out quarterback impact guys on both
sides of the football. I'm not quite sure what their
mindset was in this draft, but they took Jake Moody,
the Michigan kicker, in the third round, which was their
second pick. They of course, had given up their number

(01:55:23):
one pick. I believe in the McCaffrey deal, which paid dividends,
but I keep looking at this forty nine er quarterback
situation and forget brock Perty for a second, and forget
Trey Lance for a second. They picked up Sam Darnald. Yeah.
I want to remind people this, Sam Donald has already
played five years in the NFL. Sam Donald is four

(01:55:48):
months older than Stetson Bennett who was just drafted. He
is seven months older than hen And Hooker who was
just drafted. He's twenty five years old. He's twenty five
years old, and he's already played five years in the NFL.
I don't know about you, but if I were to

(01:56:08):
say who has more talent Sam Donald versus Brock Purty,
I'm gonna guess Sam Donald has more talent. The question
here is how much are the forty nine ers banking
on the fact because right now they're saying, well, I mean,
Trey Lance doesn't even seem to be in the conversation anymore.

(01:56:28):
It's about when is block Perty going to be back
to resume what he did a year ago?

Speaker 4 (01:56:33):
If he can resume what he did a year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
I am so intrigued by Sam Donald because you know,
the forty nine ers five years ago or now six
years ago when he came out of the draft and
that year was at Baker Mayfield or Sam Donald I'm
sure that John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan were big Sam
Donald guys, and now they get him at age twenty
five with five years of NFL experience, good and bad.

(01:56:59):
I'm I'm I think Sam Donald could be the guy.
Listen to me.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
Sam Donald is, in my mind a sympathetic figure. I
think that Sam Donald is one of those quarterbacks who
could potentially have a breakout year with the San Francisco
forty nine ers, and a lot of people would be like, well,
that came out of nowhere. Well, then you haven't been
paying attention to some of the things that have happened
around him. He was drafted to an unmitigated disaster in

(01:57:28):
New York. That was a disaster. They were terrible. Adam
Gase was terrible. Todd Bowles after him was terrible. I mean,
it just was not good. And then he goes to
Carolina where in that first season they fire Matt Ruhle.
I mean, he has been subjected to some of the

(01:57:50):
worst general managing and coaching decisions over the course of
any early career in quarterback history. You could make that
argument Matt r was not a good head coach. Adam
Gaze was worse it was. I mean, it's a calamity
of events that have gotten him to this point. But
he's cheap and like you said, he's experienced, and if

(01:58:14):
he isn't broken, which is possible because he's been through
a lot, but if he is not broken, he could
make a strong case for himself this offseason and be
the starting quarterback for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
And good on John Lynch and good on Kyle Shanahan
for bringing him in because I'm not counting on lightning

(01:58:35):
striking twice with Brock Purdy. There's a lot of people
are believers. I'm not so certain that I am. I
think that defensive coordinators are going to have time this
offseason to see where his limitations are and if they
have talented enough defense to exploit what the forty nine
ers do offensively, there could be in roads where you
can attack this guy. And also, we have no idea

(01:58:56):
what he's going to be like on the other side
of a serious elbow injury.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
If Rock Party in that short amount of time can
execute the Kyle Shanahan offense to the efficiency that he did, Yeah,
I got it again. Why did they Why did they
draft Trey Lance. They drafted Trey Lance because they thought
he had the athleticism to take Kyle Shanahan's offense to

(01:59:22):
a different level than Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, that was the idea,
all right, So we can get this far with Jimmy Garoppolo,
but if we get a more physically talented quarterback, we
can take it at another level. It hasn't worked out.
I just again, if they could do what they did
with brock Perty last year, I can't even imagine what
they could do with Sam Darnold. So it's interesting to

(01:59:43):
me that the forty nine ers really didn't do a
whole lot in this draft. They picked a tight end
like you got Kittle. I mean, it's not exactly a
need position.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
They clearly trust that they have all they need at
the quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
Right, apparently pretty much across the board.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
And then and then the other thing you got you
gotta think about is will they look back on this draft,
like you said, taking a kicker with their first pick
and think to themselves, Oops, we'll find out. But that
was too cute for me. Taking a kicker in the
third round.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
Yeah, I don't care who it is. Your second pick,
that was. I mean, I mean that is what you say.
You know what, we really don't need anything, so hey,
that guy's a really good kicker. Kind of wild. All right,
We got this game going on between Sacramento and Golden State,
which one of these two teams will be a better
matchup for the Lakers. This is Fox Sports Sunday. We

(02:00:37):
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com the way tire buying should be. So again, Sacramento
fans going wild, no question about that. But I hesitated
to go against Golden State. Now, what's what's going to
be interesting in this game is the obvious, and that
is the younger, fresher legs of the Kings. As this

(02:01:21):
game progresses, and then it just comes down to can
the Warriors will themselves figure out a way As many
veteran teams do to just find a way to win
the fact they already won one game on the road
to have to do it again is a tall order.
But these are still the Golden State Warriors.

Speaker 3 (02:01:42):
I just I just looked at that game six and
I saw a tired team. I mean that was that
was a pounding and I understand it. Like all it
takes is, like we discussed earlier in the show, Curry
or Clay to have one of those fire flamethrower knights
from beyond the arc and it changes everything in an instant.

(02:02:03):
We know how the three pointer has redesigned how we
watch NBA basketball.

Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
Ten point leads are nothing anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
I mean ten points leads can evaporate in three possessions
and routinely do. I mean twelve point leads, fifteen point leads.
They just aren't what they used to be. So the
Golden State Warriors are the type of team that if
their backs are up against the wall, they're never really
out of it unless you're leading them by thirty. But
I just don't see the fire igniting for them, especially

(02:02:34):
in a road playoff environment like this. I sooner could
see the Sacramento Kings making the errors that lead them
to losing Game seven than the Golden State Warriors out
playing them so much, like if they turn the ball
over a lot, if they get into foul trouble. Like
that's where I see the Kings losing the game as
opposed to Warriors absolutely dominating them in really any facet

(02:02:57):
Because again, this could have been over already and it's
not well.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
Coaches, and we can see the fact that coaches don't
always weigh in as a huge factor in the series.
But the fact that Mike Brown, after is one with
the Cavaliers and the Lakers, spent most of his coaching
career on the bench with Warriors, so he certainly knows
this Warriors team. Look, here's the thing about the Warriors.
When you have a Steph Curry, when you have a
Klay Thompson, even at this stage of their careers, they're

(02:03:24):
still capable when we've still seen it where they can
just suddenly catch fire. Yeah, and they can be five
or six threes just like that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:31):
It's like fourth quarter, Clay, you know, I mean, it's
been it's been a thing in the postseason before.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
It's just it's just I mean, how many fourth quarters
does he have left?

Speaker 3 (02:03:44):
I mean, does he have any like, here's the reality
of the circumstance. Last year, to your point, it was.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
A miracle run for the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (02:03:55):
Everything fell into the right place at the right time,
and it just felt like an invisible hand. I remember
saying this during that but we talked about it. It
just sort of felt like there was an invisible hand
guiding them through.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
I just don't see that this year. It doesn't feel.

Speaker 3 (02:04:12):
It almost in a way, it sort of feels like
it's Sacramento's time. Like, you know, we saw a dominant
team come out of nowhere in the West in the
very recent past. Well, if we want to call the
last decade the very recent pass in the Warriors, they
were dog meat and they completely changed their fates by

(02:04:33):
drafting well and getting the right coach.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
Look at the Kings, it.

Speaker 3 (02:04:37):
Sort of feels like they're set up to potentially be
the next Warriors.

Speaker 10 (02:04:41):
Have we been.

Speaker 2 (02:04:42):
Remiss in ignoring the XFL playoffs?

Speaker 3 (02:04:45):
I'm so glad you brought this up because we are
just minutes away from halftime and the Seattle Sea Dragons
have a lead on the the.

Speaker 2 (02:04:54):
DC Commanders, Controllers, defunct unders what are they there?

Speaker 10 (02:05:01):
Are?

Speaker 2 (02:05:01):
Actually are those real people in the stands, the DC Destroyers. Bo,
can we look it up? Who knows? What are the
names of these teams?

Speaker 4 (02:05:10):
Flag right now?

Speaker 2 (02:05:11):
Are you watching this playoff game here in the XFL?
Or what's going on here? By the way, I got
the Seattle They are the Sea Dragons Seed Dragons, So
good for you.

Speaker 10 (02:05:20):
Yeah, they're the DC Defenders. They are the DC they
were defundings. No, Sam, Sam put it on for some reason.

Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
Okay, okay, well we'll say it's a spirited Are they
still playing the entire season in one stadium like they did?
You're sure they're in Alabama? Still, right? It's is that
still the same situation? I'm not sure?

Speaker 10 (02:05:40):
I know, Like the XFL or no, the USFL, they're
using like a hub. They're using hub cities, where like
two teams playing one stadium.

Speaker 2 (02:05:46):
But the XFL last year played all their games in
one stadium.

Speaker 3 (02:05:49):
I think it was in Alabama and they played it
was it was all in Birmingham. They were all staying
in the same hotel. Yeah, multiple stadiums though they weren't
just at one place. They kind of bound them.

Speaker 2 (02:05:59):
They had teams with the city names where they actually
didn't play yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
Like the Pittsburgh Scarecrows and the oh the Worcester you know.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
The Four Letter loves to promoting this league obviously because
they carry their games. Yeah. I mean they're they're running
headline stories and they're like, what what is this?

Speaker 3 (02:06:22):
I will say this, I I worked for Spring League
Professional Football, the Alliance of American Football right and still
to this.

Speaker 2 (02:06:29):
Day in the broadcast Hall of Fame for the Alliance
of American Football. Thank you for bringing that up. I
was not going to. But while while we're at it,
I mean I was the.

Speaker 4 (02:06:37):
First entrant, which feels good. I was with you that
entire They gave me a microphone.

Speaker 2 (02:06:42):
Dude. It was unbelievable. I was that last trip. You
weren't actually sure if you were going or weren't going.

Speaker 3 (02:06:48):
I didn't well, first of all, I didn't know if
I was going or not going. And then the whole
league shut down. That game between the San Diego Fleet
and the Salt Lake City Strangers. I don't know what
they of That team was, the ice Hawks, whatever they were,
we weren't sure if we were getting home. I thought
it was suck in Salt Lake. I thought I was
buying my ticket.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
Home.

Speaker 3 (02:07:08):
Anyways, that league completely went upside down. They played a
game road for all the games, though no I missed one.

Speaker 2 (02:07:14):
Game one game. Take it in.

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
But here's the reality of this is I still will
occasionally bring up to people that I worked for the
Alliance of American Football and they'll be like, what the
hell is that they've.

Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
Never even heard of the fact that we have both
an XFL and USFL going on right now.

Speaker 3 (02:07:30):
And it's funny that you mentioned that because somebody at
a wedding I recently went to, which, by the way,
I love dancing. At a wedding, they had this line
dancing coordinator. It was like that a kind of country
like a country western band play on the floor at
one point, and dude, I still got it. Anyways, the
pointer I was like the Montecito cowboy out there. Anyways,

(02:07:51):
the point I'm trying to make is somebody was asking me, like,
you know, why am I seeing so much college football on?
You know, obviously completely unattached to the sports world. They're
like it was and I didn't know what they were
talking about. I'm like, what is this person talking about?
I'm like, I'm sure you were seeing highlights and they're
like no, no, no, And then they started naming teams
and I looked it up and I'm like, oh, I'll

(02:08:13):
be damned, they're talking about the XFL.

Speaker 2 (02:08:15):
That's what they're talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:08:16):
And so we had this short chat about what exactly
the XFL was, and the person who was talking about like,
I would never watch that, Like that was their reaction
to it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
Without even knowing sports. Look, here's my deal. What are
the chances of any current XFL or any current USFL
player making it to the NFL. It's happened before. I mean,
but the what are we talking one out of a thousand?

Speaker 3 (02:08:41):
Oh you mean okay, yeah, the odds aren't great, right, Like,
but they'll sign a bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (02:08:46):
We just had an NFL draft, and we just had
hundreds and hundreds of players sign as rookie free agents
after the draft. And then you add these guys there's
a lot of football players.

Speaker 3 (02:08:56):
Say there's six teams and say, there's I don't know,
fit fifty on each team. Right, so we're talking about
three hundred guys, Like, again, it could be more than that.
Maybe there's eight teams, and maybe there's more than fifty,
But even then that's four hundred guys who they could.

Speaker 2 (02:09:11):
Potentially bring into the league.

Speaker 3 (02:09:12):
I would say, you've got probably to actually make an
active roster in the NFL, probably a ten to four
hundred chance to be one of those guys who make
an active ross.

Speaker 2 (02:09:24):
To ask you this, because you obviously played in the NFL,
all right, so less than one percent. We know that
playing football for an extended period can do tremendous damage
to you correzically. Yes, these guys are getting paid next
to nothing, not that much, very minimal wages to harbor
this dream of one day getting an NFL paycheck, which

(02:09:46):
even at a minimum level is substantial. You really have
to love this game to keep this thing going, don't you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:09:54):
Well, and I will say this, there are talented players
who will play in the league. Whether it's because they
got in troustle in the I should say, the USFL,
the XFL because they got in trouble at the NFL level,
or they got in trouble at the college level. Or
they were talented but maybe played in in a division
or a conference that lacked so much competition they couldn't

(02:10:15):
shine amongst their peers. And this gives them that opportunity
and like I said, for the one percent that will
sign to an active roster, because I'm pretty sure it's
something like that one percent of these leagues that will
sign to an active roster, you could potentially find a
diamond in the rough. Look, it happened with Kurt Warner
out of the Arena Football League. It happens there are guys,

(02:10:37):
I mean, who was the recent I'm blanking on his name.

Speaker 2 (02:10:40):
It's because of the Kurt Warners of the world that
everyone hangs on to that. I mean, he played three
years of Arena football. Oh yeah, Iowa.

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
No, he's bagging groceries. Everybody knows the story. But American underdog.

Speaker 2 (02:10:53):
Okay, there's a reason why he's in the Hall of
Fame because those that's a one in a million. Okay,
that's that's not a one in fifth, one hundred. To
answer your question, one in a million. You gotta love it,
ye oh, gotta love These guys are really going after
it all right on the other side. My pick for
the strangest single draft choice in this year's NFL draft.

(02:11:16):
My pick for the strangest draft choice in this year's draft.
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(02:11:37):
in the half there, so both teams playing pretty good
basketball in this game seven the winner. Of course, we'll
go on to take on the Los Angeles Lakers in
a Western Conference semi finals series. So we've been talking
some NBA today. We talked a little MLB earlier to
John Palm Morosi. By the way, watching the Dodgers. They're

(02:11:58):
hosting the Cardinals right now. Yeah, I went to a
Dodger game a couple of weeks ago. It was a
day game on a Wednesday, right, and predictably there were
a lot of empty seats.

Speaker 4 (02:12:09):
You wouldn't think on a day.

Speaker 2 (02:12:10):
Like today in LA there would be empty seats at
Dodger Stadium on a Sunday day game. There are a
lot of empty seats at Dodger Stadium on a Sunday
day game.

Speaker 3 (02:12:20):
Yeah, it's pretty remarkable. When you look around Major League
Baseball now, there are definitely certain cities that are on fire,
San Diego being one of them in terms of interest
in their team because of the amount of money they
spent recently. I'm sure Pittsburgh starting to fill up PNC
Park with their record this season, and they just what's

(02:12:41):
his name their third basement, just gave him an extension.
You know, you think about you think about the Dodgers though,
what they've been and what they've done over the past
two decades. All they've done is spend money and bring
up guys from their farm system to supplant the major
league talent they have. They didn't do that this year.
They virtually spent zero money. And don't get me wrong,

(02:13:03):
we're going to see some of the youth of this
this farm system get some work here. But it was
a very ho hum offseason and I think LA fans
have gotten very used to the brand new toy What
are we opening this year under the tree? They didn't
get anything last this offseason, so it sort of felt like,
are we just going to wave the white flag this

(02:13:25):
year and wait for show Hey Otani to be a
free agent.

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
They did break up Noah Sindergarten, so you pick up Okay, yeah,
it is about six and a half.

Speaker 3 (02:13:36):
I were sure it's the thor in the Marvel movies.
Where he's drinking a lot of beer and he's back
in Iceland.

Speaker 2 (02:13:42):
All right, I want to give you my choice for
the most bizarre single draft choice in this year's NFL drumming.
There was a lot that he gets a question, but
this one sort of just I'm trying to figure out why, okay.
And that was the Los Angeles Rams fourth round draft
pick Stetson Bennett. All right, all right, So Bennett was

(02:14:03):
on most boards either going to be a late draft
pick like six or seventh round, or just free agent.
There's a reason for that, a couple of reasons. One,
he turns twenty six in October. Yeah, I mean he
played at Georgia four hundred years he did, and yes
he did went back to back national Championshays. But dare
I say he was surrounded by a little talent on

(02:14:26):
the oh A Georgia. Yeah, he had help. Okay, so
I had a little help around him. We also had
this off season incident, you know, where he was sort
of out of intoxicated and is wandering around and you know,
and then he went off on the cops on about
you know what, you're ruining my life whatever. Stetson Bennett,

(02:14:46):
by the way just has. One of the great quotes
was talking about Sean McVay. He says, I hear he's
a genius. Now that's a pretty bold statement from a
fourth round draft pick talking about a super winning coach
and almost in mox and yeah, here he's a genius. Well, okay,
I try to because you and I have talked about

(02:15:08):
this Rams twenty twenty two free fall, coming off a
Super Bowl championship, a lot of injuries, obviously, guys underperforming,
and you pretty much maintained don't be surprised that the
Rams bounce back, maybe not all the way to super
Bowl status, but at least Playoff contention in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (02:15:30):
I'm trying to figure this pick out.

Speaker 2 (02:15:32):
I mean, there were so many quarterbacks available in this draft,
and if you're just lying them up in terms of
talent and everything else, Remember the reason that they got
Matthew Stafford is they felt like he had more tools
to work with than Jared Goff correct, and that's why
they made the deal. I'm trying to figure out why

(02:15:52):
Stetson Bennett, and I mean, it just it doesn't fit.
And I understand a lot of games at Georgia, but
I dare say there were probably other quarterbacks that win
this draft, had they been afforded the same opportunity at Georgia,
could have won as many games. Is this guy a
guy they're developing as a quarterback of the future. Are

(02:16:14):
they looking at him as a solid back of the
Matthew Stafford? Are they pushing the panic button right now? Maybe?
I mean, Stafford's gonna make something like almost fifty Why
would they make this pick and the fourth round.

Speaker 3 (02:16:27):
Fourth rounders, I think they're signing bonuses or something under
a million ball.

Speaker 2 (02:16:31):
You could have gotten Max Duggan in the seventh round.

Speaker 3 (02:16:34):
I understand. I'm just saying Max dugg In and Stetson Bennett.
It wasn't like other teams were looking at Stetson Bennett.
It's like, oh yeah, no, no, no, I'm not gonna
make an argument that he has this insane skill set
and they got him at such a value.

Speaker 4 (02:16:49):
Because don't they need offensive line because of the off.

Speaker 2 (02:16:52):
The off the field stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
No, and yeah, you could spend that value in the
fourth round at other places where they need more help.
And they again the round did you go in? I
went in the fourth round? Yes he did, But they
did spend a Their first pick was on an offensive lineman. Yes,
so you think about it from a need based draft,
Do they need a competent backup for Matthew Stafford, I'd argue, Yeah,

(02:17:15):
could Stetson Bennett be that guy? I could also make
an argument yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:17:20):
Okay Wolford. Still, what's a guy's name?

Speaker 2 (02:17:22):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:17:23):
Yeah, they had a couple. I mean like kind of
known it. But that's my point. This guy comes from
a program that and has a pedigree. Whether you liked
what you saw on film with the interaction with the
police officers, which I'm sure you don't, this guy's got
a lot on film that would lead you to believe
he knows how to handle the moment.

Speaker 2 (02:17:44):
Right the Rams.

Speaker 3 (02:17:45):
The Rams are in a situation where are they rebuilding?
I don't think so. I think they're trying to match
what they did two years ago in this upcoming season
after going through a harrowing affair with injuries upfront on
the offensive line, having huge injuries to huge playmakers like
Cooper Cup and Aaron Donald last season. So if guys

(02:18:06):
remain healthy, which you always have to assume health, and
they improve this offensive line, which a lot of guys
got playing time last year, so it should be better
this year. Almost by default, it should be better this year.
And then they added in the draft. Yeah, if Matthew
Stafford at any point goes down, you need to trust
that somebody can fill in. And I assume that's what

(02:18:26):
they're gonna do. They're gonna groom him as a backup
for now, and if there's any added value in getting
him some game time and seeing what they have in
him at some point this season, all the better.

Speaker 2 (02:18:37):
He just doesn't seem like a Sean McVay quarterback to me,
Well why not? His physical stature. Look how far they
went with Jared Goff. Look, Jacked Goff is a You
want to stand Jared Goff side by side with Stetson Bennett.

Speaker 3 (02:18:54):
Well, no, I don't want to do that because right now,
if you're asking me who I'd rather take, Jared Goff,
say if he was available as a free agent in Detroit,
that he is a really good quarterback. No, no, no, no,
even before that season. I mean pretend like last season
he didn't even happen, right, I mean from a skill
set standpoint, stets And Bennett can't hold a candle to

(02:19:14):
him coming out of cow I mean, like you know,
he is the first pick in the direct Yeah, let's
talk about skill set coming out of college. Stets and
Bennett doesn't hold a candle to him. But in terms
of winning, in terms of clutch gene and handling the
moment and being able to manage a championship environment and
all that comes into it, Bennett can do that. He's

(02:19:34):
proven it many times over the course of a of
a long college career. It's that's the facts. And by
the way, how to overcome some adversity. Georgia didn't want
them Georgia and wantam I understand the whole Bennett's story,
and he was a walk on. He started, just hung
on a little bit. He left the school, came back
to Georgia. I mean, there was never he was never
going to be anything. And then again, imagine imagine the

(02:19:58):
public intoxication thing didn't happen, but.

Speaker 2 (02:20:00):
There's a lot that was what Gino Torretta was at Miami.
Gen Or Toretta won a Heisman Trophy. He never lost
any games, but everyone realized he wasn't a talented quarterback.
That's why he was a seventh round draft pick. You
know what, I'm not going to make an argument that
Stets They're going to be this guy. He was in
the fourth round. But look, Dak Prescott was a fourth rounder.
Russell Wilson was a third rounder. There's I'm not and

(02:20:22):
again I'm not.

Speaker 3 (02:20:22):
These are very talented professional franchise quarterbacks that I'm referring to.
I'm just saying that a lot of times we do this,
we immediately label a guy as not having the potential
to be great at the NFL level.

Speaker 2 (02:20:35):
Before Evo, Well, Tim Tebow was my first round pick.
Moved up for that, by the way, to me, kind
of felt like an obvious he had a lot of
games in college, an obvious no go at the NFL level.
But look again again though even stetson Ben I know,
but even then I'd bite my tongue because I didn't
know as a fourth round pick, as a throwaway pick,

(02:20:56):
I know, I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:20:57):
You're on the borderline, though, You're getting to the borderline
where you can you can gamble on a fourth got a.

Speaker 2 (02:21:02):
Call from the Patriots. I thought, wow, they gambleway pick.
You were not a throwaway pick. Look, they were banking
on you had you not had injuries to be a
contributor as a fourth rounder.

Speaker 3 (02:21:14):
Well, yes, but I'm saying, but you can gamble in
the fourth round. You can take a shot at a guy.

Speaker 2 (02:21:19):
You did have a lot of picks. I think the
Rams had half the draft.

Speaker 3 (02:21:22):
Well, and by the way, the year I got drafted, uh,
we had eleven picks in that draft with the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (02:21:27):
So maybe I was the set's invented of my group
over there in New England.

Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
You're a little bit taller. As far as the police
officers into public intoxication, I think there's some parallels. Once again,
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trending right now. And it's been a different game for
us today because we literally are looking right at Montsey.
She's so enamored that I've done this entire show sitting

(02:22:14):
in Rich's lap. Yeah, I don't know why I chose
to do this.

Speaker 3 (02:22:17):
It feels like a synchronized swimming event.

Speaker 2 (02:22:21):
But I guess so well, it's new, it's a new studio.
We're just trying to figure out where we can do
it best. We'll wait things.

Speaker 3 (02:22:28):
You have to turn your microphone on. I can't hear
what you're saying, Monte. I still can't hear you. I
don't read lips, Moncy.

Speaker 2 (02:22:36):
Yeah, don't her lap are good? Yeah? This feels right.

Speaker 5 (02:22:45):
Okay, there we go, There we go.

Speaker 4 (02:22:46):
Are you saying you know that you.

Speaker 8 (02:22:48):
Guys are so cozy synchronized swimming?

Speaker 5 (02:22:50):
Now we need matching outfits.

Speaker 8 (02:22:52):
We need matching outfits and then maybe a little choreography.

Speaker 5 (02:22:56):
I'll tell you what couple steps.

Speaker 2 (02:23:00):
I'm sorry, isn't there supposed to be some egg plant
delivered today? The egg plan? I've been sitting at this
entire show thinking, is he going to sort of like
spring out the egg plants? There was promise in a
bet that he lost to you. Yeah, where is the
flame thrown egg plant? Okay, I will deliver the egg

(02:23:24):
plant to Mansia. That sounds hang on a say I
will coming back next up.

Speaker 3 (02:23:32):
I am going to make Manzi eggplant. Parmber Johan is
how that sentence was supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (02:23:38):
She was supposed to go and I will.

Speaker 4 (02:23:41):
I'm going to deliver an egg plant.

Speaker 3 (02:23:46):
That's good, okay, and that will happen soon, Yes soon,
he you.

Speaker 2 (02:23:52):
My thing was you had to experiment with the flame
thrower on the.

Speaker 4 (02:23:55):
Egg plant that I have no I have no problem with.

Speaker 3 (02:23:59):
And I I wish I had a better excuse other
than I forgot right.

Speaker 5 (02:24:03):
I didn't put a timetable on it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:05):
It's true, Tah.

Speaker 5 (02:24:06):
So I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (02:24:07):
I'm to set a reminder in my phone because that
was a stake for me, an eggplant for you, and
it still hasn't happened.

Speaker 5 (02:24:14):
Yes, I'm sorry. I'll send you a text. It's fine,
I'll remind you.

Speaker 2 (02:24:17):
Yes, you need to, no problem.

Speaker 8 (02:24:19):
What is trending, though, is a Scott Foster of course,
with people saying that the home court advantage equals Scott Foster.

Speaker 5 (02:24:26):
When it comes to the NBA.

Speaker 8 (02:24:28):
Right now, the Sacramento Kings have the lead against the
Golden State Warriors.

Speaker 5 (02:24:32):
Game seven, win or go home.

Speaker 8 (02:24:34):
Forty five forty two is the score with six minutes
to go in the first half. Steph Curry leading the
way for the Warriors. He's got twelve points for Sacramento.
It's it's Sabonis. You had to want to Sabonis. He's
leading the way. He's got ten points and three assists.
But plenty of game left.

Speaker 7 (02:24:49):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:24:50):
It's the Heat who.

Speaker 8 (02:24:50):
Took Game one against the Knicks in New York, beating
them one away to one on one. Jimmy Butler led
the way. He handed with twenty five points and eleven rebounds.
He did injure his right ankle late in fourth quarter.
This is what head coach Eric Spolstra had to say
about his injury.

Speaker 2 (02:25:05):
You know, you just don't know, you know, Vankal's friends.
I don't even know if we'll know more by tomorrow.
You know, we'll just have to see. It'll be a
waiting game, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:25:13):
But he did not want to come out of the.

Speaker 2 (02:25:14):
Game, you know, so we left him in there.

Speaker 8 (02:25:17):
For Yeah, you left him in there because he's a badass.
That is right in Major League Baseball. Who is a
badass right now? The Rangers, who are just kicking butt
and taking names over the Yankees.

Speaker 5 (02:25:29):
Fourteen to one. Wow is the score top of the
seventh inning. No bueno.

Speaker 8 (02:25:36):
The Giants and the Padres are playing in Mexico City
and it's San Francisco up to zero bottom of the
second and it's a tie game between the Mariners and
the Blue Jays.

Speaker 5 (02:25:45):
This one was back and forth.

Speaker 8 (02:25:46):
They are tied at eight apiece bottom of the ninth inning.
They are playing in Toronto, and Toronto is down to
their last out, so we might be going to extra innings.
It's been fun, guys.

Speaker 5 (02:25:56):
Back to you, hie mon.

Speaker 2 (02:25:58):
Scene, Thank you very much. Sun egg Plants is on
the way all right. By the way, I am watching
the Cardinals take a two nothing leite Cinderguard bo Benson,
bo I got an update for you on Noah Cinderguard's
era as a Dodger. Let's hear it. He is now
at six point seven five, six point seven five.

Speaker 10 (02:26:20):
It's early, it's early. It's okay.

Speaker 2 (02:26:22):
There's a Cardinals team that limped into Dodgers Stadium with
a ten and eighteen record. Wow, the Cardinals not very
good right now. I wanted to bring bow in because
he is sporting proudly his Philadelphia Eagles cap. Once again,
everyone rich is seemingly saying that the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (02:26:39):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:26:40):
Draft, you get Jalen Carter, who many people thought was
the best talent in this draft. And then you get
Nolan Smith who fell from potentially a top fifteen pick
all the way down to thirty. Yeah, three new Georgia
defenders from the two you drafted a year ago. Bo
is it in right now? Are you? Are you hesitant

(02:27:02):
when everyone is heaping praise on your team that they
just absolutely aced it with a draft? Does that give
you pause?

Speaker 10 (02:27:12):
I mean, you can't really win a draft on the
day after the draft.

Speaker 2 (02:27:16):
You can't.

Speaker 10 (02:27:16):
You did four or five years later. Yeah, But to
get Jalen Carter where they did, and I thought for
sure he was going to Seattle.

Speaker 2 (02:27:24):
I thought so too. Yeah, that seemed to be the
scuttle butt.

Speaker 10 (02:27:27):
So to get Jalen Carter where they did, to get
Nolan Smith at thirty without having to move up.

Speaker 2 (02:27:32):
I know he had some injuries, yeah, but but I mean,
and he's not a big guy when you look at
Nolan Smith, But I mean its.

Speaker 4 (02:27:37):
Ability to get to the quarterback whoa My favorite.

Speaker 10 (02:27:40):
Quote that was going around this weekend was Nick Sirianni
asking how he Roseman after he went down to George's
practice to ask him who he liked, and Howie Rosen
was just like the entire defense and it's true because
he has pretty much drafted that entire defense. I thought
Keey Ringo and the third is a really good pick.
I do think like when Howie Roseman took Jalen Rager

(02:28:04):
instead of Justin Jefferson and saw what happened. I think
that just like completely shifted the way he views the
draft because I think ever since then, he's like taken
more SEC players than any other team has, which is
kind of my draft philosophy. So I'll take credit for it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:17):
You know, it's just amazing when you think just a
couple of years ago, what a mess the Eagles were.
Oh yeah, I mean they appeared to be a team
on a complete free fall, you know, the you know,
with Peterson being let go and it just and let's face,
Siriani didn't exactly blow people away with Presser was a joke.
I mean people were just mocking him. Yeah, because ironically

(02:28:39):
they were also mocking Peterson. And if you go back
when Andy Ree was hired by the Eagles, that's three
straight guys that they hired to be head coaches that
were deemed phony offensive coordinators where they weren't play callers.

Speaker 3 (02:28:51):
The the one thing that every team needs to have
if you're gonna have a chance. Yeah, is a really
talented quarterback and they got lucky with Jellen Hurts.

Speaker 2 (02:29:01):
Yeah? And did they get lucky or well? I mean
you could you could say it. I mean I was
always a Hurts fan. You and I were talking when
he went to Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (02:29:08):
But I'm just saying, even if you're you're and we
were fans of his talent at the College of them Boat,
sounds like you were too.

Speaker 10 (02:29:14):
Yeah, I mean I grew you know, I'm an Oklahoma
fan so well.

Speaker 2 (02:29:19):
The way he handled the Alabama.

Speaker 10 (02:29:21):
Seculy, the way he handled that out and you get
benched for an entire year, I was outrageous. I just
didn't think he was going to be an NFL level quarterback.
I at the end of his time at Oklahoma, I
was praying that Spencer Rattler would get in the game
because I don't think Jalen Hurts could do it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:35):
But I asked this question to number of NFL people.
Once the Eagles dropped their Hurts and gave him an
opportunity to play, I go, what's the ceiling on this guy?
Give me a ceiling? I mean, is there a ceiling?
And you know, everyone's like, ah, you know, he's a
serviceable guy. Could anyone that predicted to be the highest
paid player in the NFL or that he would be
the best player on the field as he was in

(02:29:57):
this past Super Bowl? Hard work man, he's a hard worker.

Speaker 3 (02:30:01):
And again, even great talents at the college level cannot
pan out at the pro level. And that's what it was.
I mean, it was it felt like it was going
to be one of those we're just talking about Seton Bennett,
fourth rounder. I mean it's a flyer pick practically for
the Rams. He could end up being a Hall of
Famer one day. You just don't know. I mean, same
with Jellen Hurts. It felt like, wow, you know, second

(02:30:24):
round pick, We'll see if it works out. He's just
gonna kind of be a guy. But it's been so
much more than that. You got a good quarterback, a
talented quarterback, a capable NFL quarterback, and you have the
sort of offensive line and defensive line and a commitment
to building the trenches of your football team the way

(02:30:44):
the Philadelphia Eagles have. You've got everything. I mean, that
is how the San Francisco forty nine ers built their
team with Shanahan, and Lynch. That's the way the Eagles
have done it for years. That's the way the Patriots
did it. They had competence, if not greatness a quarterback
with Tom Braidy over the course of the two decades,
and they constantly invested in the guys up front, building

(02:31:05):
a strong front seven, a great offensive line, and then
the skill position players largely sometimes we're anonymous guys.

Speaker 4 (02:31:14):
Yeah, they made a huge pickup this last offseason.

Speaker 10 (02:31:17):
Yeah, not to mention the guys they drafted, but they
traded for DeAndre Swift over the weekend too. Yeah, they're
going to have him in the backfield with their shot.

Speaker 2 (02:31:25):
Well, let me ask you right now, if you were
to say, uh, who's the better team right now? I've
tried it. I was mentioning this yesterday. I think we
can all sit here right now. The most talented teams
on the NFC side are the Eagles in the forty nine. Yeah,
without question. Is there a third place? I mean seriously,
I mean, is there a Is there a definitive third

(02:31:47):
best roster? I guess that's all you can say right
now in the NFC? Is it the Cowboys?

Speaker 10 (02:31:52):
I would I mean, I would think it's the Cowboys
or maybe the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (02:31:56):
The Seahawks.

Speaker 10 (02:31:57):
Yeah, maybe it's.

Speaker 2 (02:31:57):
Interesting because a year ago I thought they were the
worst team because look at their receivers. The Seahawks are stacked.
What do you think of that sharbon a pick after
they took Kenneth Walker a year ago.

Speaker 3 (02:32:06):
I like it because I love it. If Penny's not there,
I mean, that was that was special. That group in
the backfield was special. But Penny couldn't stay stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (02:32:15):
So I look, right now, you would have the Cowboys,
but that's a distant three.

Speaker 3 (02:32:19):
That is a distant three. And then I get I mean,
look the Rams. You still kind of have to put
them in the conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:32:25):
Still in the conversation, Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald was just
down last year. I understand. Cooper Cup he got hurt.
I get it.

Speaker 4 (02:32:35):
Matthew Staffords gone.

Speaker 2 (02:32:38):
Well and it was time. It was time.

Speaker 4 (02:32:41):
But you're talking about potentially.

Speaker 2 (02:32:43):
That Matthew Stafford is going to be healthy this season, potentially.

Speaker 4 (02:32:46):
Now three Hall of famers I just listed.

Speaker 2 (02:32:48):
That's a pretty talented I'm not arguing about their Hall
of Fame status. And by the way, we're also arguing
how much gas is left in the tank fifth place.

Speaker 3 (02:32:55):
Oh and throw the lines in the mix. I mean,
I I don't love how they draft, but I mean
that's a team that's that is a supremely talented team
that did some confounding things during this draft.

Speaker 2 (02:33:08):
Right because they didn't really upgrade their defense. Didn't upgrade
their defense, but offensively, look the sacked. You know the
team if they're if this team's quarterback can make a
big leap the Bears, when you look at Green Bay
right now with Jordan Love, that's a big question mark
Minnesota is let's face, are they going to go eleven
to zero and one score games like they did last year?

(02:33:29):
I think they will. I don't think that's going to
happen again. I mean, is it possible if Justin Fields
makes a mighty leap the Bears could steal the NFC
North from worst team to first at least in their division.

Speaker 3 (02:33:47):
It's you get an argument could be made. I look,
I the reality is.

Speaker 2 (02:33:52):
Not, that's not a great division, all of them. No,
it's not. The reality is your starting quarterback team all year.

Speaker 3 (02:33:58):
Our cousins golf Fields, And who am I missing cousins?

Speaker 2 (02:34:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:34:04):
I already said Covins Cousins with the Jordan Love, Oh
in Love, thank you Cousins, Golf Fields and Love. I
mean just looking at the quarterbacks, I mean, I mean
who yeah Fields Field.

Speaker 2 (02:34:16):
Let's put it in if he has.

Speaker 3 (02:34:18):
Any progression this offseason, if he ends up improving his
game where he's not just basically an explosive running back
who's also throwing the football sometimes, and he progresses into
becoming a true dual threat at the quarterback position in
the NFL. Yeah, I mean, the Chicago Bears have a chance.

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(02:35:00):
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(02:35:42):
Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the ti Rak
dot Com studios. Got to thank the crew. It's been
an interesting weekend. It's the first weekend in our new studios.
The studios are beautiful, they're they're tremendous of the fact
that we've been able to see Monci. The entire show
is tremendous. Can see Sam and Bo.

Speaker 4 (02:36:02):
Here's a few little things that have to still be
straight now.

Speaker 2 (02:36:05):
But that's that's new. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:36:07):
Yeah, it's like, let's put it this way, even if
you upgrade, when you're driving around a new car for
the first time, yeah, you know, you keep reaching for
the winchol wipers in the same spot as the old
the old Hoopedi wagon you just got out of right,
and you keep you keep turning your blinker on and.

Speaker 2 (02:36:23):
You're like for that driver's man, You're like, what what's
on this car? There's something new to push it around here?

Speaker 3 (02:36:28):
Why does the horn keep going off in the middle
of the night. But that's fine, We're going to figure
it all out.

Speaker 2 (02:36:33):
Well, how are you doing? Sam? Now? Sam again working
a board that he said is about forty years newer
than the previous board thirty years. He didn't have the
wood frame around an old boy. Boy sounds velvety in
these new studios. My goodness, listen to you swinging this.
So all's okay where you're sitting hearing my own voice.

Speaker 4 (02:36:54):
Yeah, it's on the on the board.

Speaker 3 (02:36:57):
It's been going well, I'll tell you right now just
given the computers set up and like like from the
glare on the window, looking do you look like a
Vegas DJ?

Speaker 4 (02:37:07):
Like like you exactly like.

Speaker 2 (02:37:08):
I'm running like the death Star over here Philadelphia Flyers, Jersey.
I got this as a Christmas gift about twelve thirteen
years ago when they were really never seen you wear
that really, samewhere like once a year. Look the exact
same as a middle schooler, Like, I know, I got
like it's banging jersey on, I got this NHL playoff
season years ago. As far as Mon has concerned, promises

(02:37:31):
not kept by Rich. So he still needs to deliver
the egg plant.

Speaker 8 (02:37:35):
Yeah, yeah, patiently waiting patiently.

Speaker 2 (02:37:39):
I guess Moncey mos upset by all the conversation we
had about the Clippers want to extend the contracts, not
not void, but extend the contracts. So Kawhi Leonard and
Paul George.

Speaker 5 (02:37:49):
Yeah, don't extend them. Don't do that.

Speaker 8 (02:37:52):
I know I and I hear what Rich is saying
on the business side of it.

Speaker 5 (02:37:56):
But as a fan, no, why would.

Speaker 2 (02:37:57):
I want that? Tough Sell, though, we're going to be
exact same conversation in the year, we will and it
will be the same thing. It's like he did what
he had to do.

Speaker 10 (02:38:06):
Monty wants to open the new arena with Russell Westbrookford.

Speaker 2 (02:38:11):
He they have they have said they are going to
bring back Russell Westbrook if the price is right. Well
in the post is good. He did tell you the
guy that earn a raises Norman, the guy.

Speaker 4 (02:38:23):
To bring it all that dude, just one Westbrook and.

Speaker 2 (02:38:29):
Norman pell u c L a U c U c
L a Ryan Hollins, it's going to be joining you
on coming up with kid Bo. So you're just sitting
pretty right now, right, I mean, you're on top of
the world. This guy's got to figure it out.

Speaker 10 (02:38:42):
Yeah, I mean, Eagles win the draft, Lakers are chilling
at home waiting for whoever. Uh you know, Dodger's only
down by one.

Speaker 2 (02:38:52):
With sinder Garden on that.

Speaker 10 (02:38:53):
Yeah, life's good, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:38:55):
So Bo's on top of the world right now. Yeah,
all right, So we got halftime right now. The Kings
have a two point lead against the Warriors. I honestly,
I don't think it's gonna matter with the Lakers one
or the other. I agree, obviously the Kings are younger,
fresher legs Warriors. You know, if the Warriors somehow steal
this game seven on the road, and that would make

(02:39:17):
me nervous, im I'm the Lakers, oh sure, because they
still are the Warriors very similar teams obviously, and then
it would come down to who delivers. It would be
Stepping and Clay or would it be Lebron and a
d But I said this earlier. If I just look
at the current rosters, assuming that Lebron and a d

(02:39:39):
are healthy, I think the Lakers have the best roster
in the Western Conference of the remaining teams. Yeah, I
mean they have more guys that can step up and
make a difference in the game, because we saw it
with and l Russell.

Speaker 3 (02:39:53):
But the Suns to me overall the best roster.

Speaker 2 (02:39:57):
Wow. I mean, if we're going they're Big three, but
after that they give up a lot of their big string.
The Big three is a lot. The Big three is
a whole lot. Booker Durant, Paul, that's a lot. Well,
we'll see how that all plays out in the meantime.

(02:40:17):
Don't go anywhere, Ky dub Ryan Hans, they will get
you sick.

Speaker 4 (02:40:21):
Keep rolling right here. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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