Mike Harmon and Dan Beyer Breakdown NBA Draft & NFL Summer Drama

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good to see you live and in living color in studio,
and you did the quintessential radio elevate yourself to king
status by bringing in a giant box of beautiful, sweet,

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delicious donuts.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
There are donuts here, and I'm sorry if you're listening
and driving in your car doing whatever you're doing, that
you cannot party. And as much as I'd love to
be the hero and all of this, I gotta make guys,
I was really hungry this morning, so I also wanted donuts.
So it's a win win for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
No, that's all right, And I mean that you decided
to just extend that ring because you could have very easily,
as many have done here in the Fox Sports Radio
parking lot, decided to pull in, eat your meal and
pretend it never existed. There's none for anybody else. There's
no you know, it's share and sharel like you said, no, no, no, no, no,

(01:33):
I'm gonna be straight up. I mean, you could have
gone and gotten yourself a giant, giant Danish, giant cinnamon roll,
a couple of glazed donuts, a giant cup of coffee,
and the orange juice chaser, and you could have said
you no, no, no, they don't need anything. No, you decided
these guys needed that spark on.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
A Sunday, which I may have done before. Actually, I've
never sat in my car and ate my stuff. I
have tried to hide it as I walk through the halls,
just in case someone saw me with whatever I had
for lunch that day, because fourteen years ago at Fox
Sports Radio, I was scarred because I bought a I

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bought a pizza for lunch. And it wasn't an enormous pizza.
It was a pizza that could actually fit in the fridge,
And after having what I wanted for lunch and then
putting it on the fridge because I was going to
take it home with me, I came back an hour
later and saw someone eating my pizza in the kitchen.

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And so at that point, I'm like, all right, this
is there Apparently are no rules. There are zero rules.
And I know we've seen episodes about it on TV,
a famous Rass episode and Friends and stuff my sandwich. Yes, yes,
but it hit home that day. It really did. When

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I saw the person with zero remorse, I know who
it is.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I could pretty much guess I've been here long enough.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Well that person is no longer here, so it's true.
So I have a I feel comfortable in saying that
that situation did happen, but it honestly has scarred me,
but not scarred me to the point where I would
eat in the car by myself before I worked, so
nobody else would get it.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay, man, nobody's going to accost you down the hallway now,
that would be bold, That would be bold. But yeah,
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got baseball in an hour, Dan bar live from London.
One of the classic rivalries, and I put rivalries in quotes.
I don't know how you really put it in. They've
been playing against each other forever, right, some great highlights
of going back to Ryan Sandberg, home runs, Bruce Suitor
and all those guys all the way through. But we've

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got Cubs Cardinals coming up at the top of the hour,
Marcus Stroman looking for his tenth win of the year
for the Cubs. Cubs interesting, but baseball is that rejuvenation
and we've got a little bit of juice going into
late June. We've got a lot of storylines that have
done it. Attendance is up. You've got people actually showing

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up for games in Cincinnati a year after the owner
said where are you gonna go? What you're gonna do?
Basically channeling a little bit of whul Cogan with more
derision and mocking. But we're at a point in late
June where the thrill of the ballpark and is Ilo
letof in his update, You've got the Angels scoring twenty

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five runs and maybe holding out hope that Sho heeo
Tani will still like it in Nanaheim.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I think it's I think it's been an amazing start
to the season, and there may have been a point
where there was a little lull, but I can't even
use the word start, because Mike, this we're going to
be at the halfway point. Rays have played eighty games already,
the Rockies have got shelled, played seventy nine. So at
some point this season they're going to break past the
At some point this week, they're going to break past

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that eighty one game halfway mark. And that's where we are,
and the rest of the league is going to do
so as well. And when you think about where baseball
has been, and I'll even go back, Mike to the
point of, you know, when Derek Jeter retired, and I
remember trying to figure out who is the star in baseball?
And even though like Derek Jeter was retiring, Derek Jeter

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was still the face of Major League baseball, And really,
I understand why, but it was. It was actually a
problem in the NFL we thought could have when you
had Brady Manning and Breeze end up moving on. But
now you have Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts,
those guys filling in that role and filling in that spot,

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and now the NFL ends up moving seamlessly. I don't
think it's happened like that major League Baseball. And there's
a lot that's been going on with Judges sixty two
last year. That was his story, but that was one player.
And I just think that the sport as a whole
is better. And I don't know if it's because of

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the rule changes, but I know we talked a lot
about the rule changes for the first couple of weeks
of the season. We talked about the World Baseball Classic.
There was a lot of momentum of Major League Baseball,
and heck to have a game last night where a
team scored twenty five home runs, scored twenty five runs,
excuse me, hit three consecutive home runs on three consecutive pitches.

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That's great? Like that is that is? I hate the conversation, Mike,
is this good for baseball? Is that good for baseball
because it's so general and it's not talking about the sport.
But baseball has been great for the first half of
the season. And last night, in a game in Colorado
that didn't have any hype going into is just a
normal game. You have another great story coming through, and

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I think that's what's been so awesome about this season.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah. I mean, we've had so many different parts to
this season. It's segmented. Even as we get to the
halfway point. You mentioned the Tampa bay Rays. It was
a surprise for about three weeks. Everybody's excited. Yeah, and
it got to a month it's like cool. Now, it's like,
all right, they're good. Push them to the side. We'll
see where they are come September. Right, it's not a
daily tracking. I mean, the biggest story out of Tampa

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right now is what they're doing with Wander Franco, trying
to make sure his ego and being a good teammate,
whatever that means in their eyes, stays in check where
he actually got benched for such. So you've got that
going on. You've got a couple of divisions that are
more or less terrible, right, My beloved White Sox. Great story,

(07:46):
Liam Hendrix, You've seen it all across the different channels
pretty much everybody doing an interview or a little breakdown
of it as he returned from cancer treatments and now
back in the big leagues and all of that. But
the White Sox are miserable. Luis Robert Junior has nineteen
home runs. That was a guy that was gonna be
one of those breakthrough guys. He can now go have

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a great year. Nobody cares because the team has been awful,
right and you look at the other side of that,
we talk about the Cardinals and the Cups. Cardinals have
been dismal, absolutely atrocious, thirty one to forty five. But
they have a great young player in Jordan Lawler. He
was on one of the featured interviews as you're hyping
the game today and looking at the crowd getting all

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fired up as they're there in London. But he was
a guy that came up in April, a lot of hype, struggled,
had to go to the miners, and since he's been back,
he's been fantastic. Now, people that speculate and work in
the trading card memorabilia world, they're very well apprized of
who Jordan Lawler is a lot of hype, a lot
of push. But in that division, now you've got the

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Cincinnati Reds made the quick snide joke there before, but
now they're selling out. You got the Braves in down
and you've got Elie de la Cruz who's just been
lightning in a bottle since coming up, all the wind streak,
all the great performances. You know, we had the thing
Smith and I were talking about. He goes, well, why
can't he come up and just cut through the clutter

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and win an MVP. So we're already kind of looking
at it from the larger perspective of you know, it's
a meteor kind of thing, right of how we got this.
It's a new story breaking through, which is what we
always want.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
The even the part of the al Central. And I
know you're not happy with your White Sox, but.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's a race.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
But yeah, I like it or not. But the Tigers,
who I think it was a nine game slide a
couple of weeks ago. We're playing five hundred baseball. Up
until that point, they're four and a half games back.
At least if the division stinks, you've got competition. There's
there has been so much and and and I'd love
to hear from from you the listener on what is

(09:55):
the best part of this season? Hit Mi gup ayt
swollen Dome, hit me up on Twitter at Dan Byer
on Fox, because I can think there have been so
many you just hit on a bunch. The Pirates have
kind of fallen off, But how about the Pirates in
April and May in the story that they were so far?
The Texas Rangers not doing this without Jacob de Gram's
services for a majority of the season and for the

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rest of the season. Can Houston make it back? The
Arizona Diamondbacks hot, maybe cool off a little bit, and
then the Young Corps back at it atop the division.
The Giants have been hot as of late, coming off
of a series. Really swept the Dodgers last weekend. So
there's there's what he how many Giants went ten in
a row? Is that what it was like? There's I mean,

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you can go up and down the standings and you
can pick out something that stands out. All of this,
By the way, without Aaron Judge, the guy who carried
the baseball story last year, and we have no idea
when he's going to come back. So there's that is it.
It's bad for Aaron Judge, it's bad for Yankee fans.
That is a very good thing for baseball fans to

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have these storylines coming through, and it makes for a very,
very exciting second half of the baseball season, as we'll
end up reaching it at some point this week. But
I just think that last night's twenty five to one
Angels victory over the Rockies is just another great piece
of what we've gotten so far in this first half

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of this Major League baseball season.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
As everybody kept tweeting at Russell Wilson, they've scored more
runs than your offense generated most of last year. How
do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
The Rockies deserve to have twenty five put on them
with that uniform cover. I know that we've seen it before.
I know it's their city connector or whatever it is,
but it is not a good look. So you deserve
to have twenty five put up. The great part about
last night was not that it was twenty five runs
and then they would score eleven, say in the eighth inning.

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It was that it was twenty three nothing at the end.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Of four twenty one hits three four innings.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I like that is that is amazing? That would be like, hey,
I gotta watch this. I gotta see if they're gonna
get up to thirty or I gotta see it.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Because we do it all the time with football. Are
they gonna score sixty points?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Or basketball? Hey, is this guy gonna score eighty? The
most deflating thing, though, right from the fantasy world and
gambling world, is the struggles of show. Hey Otani yesterday? Ah, yes, right,
because you see those guys run totals yes, over the
course of a game. You're getting all excited. Hey, you
know what I bet Otani to do X y Z.
It's like, wait a minute, he didn't fare in any

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of this, How dare you?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
I read what Phil Nevin said after the game, and
it is the most Mike. It is the most coach
speak that I have I that I can remember in
recent history. I understand the coach speak of it in
a twenty five to one game, But what was kind

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of lost in all of this was that Griffin Canning,
the Angels pitcher, went six scoreless and struck out seven.
And the most coach speak thing Phil Nevin said and
again I get it, and the Angels are going to
go anywhere. They're going to have to do it with
their pitching, which is something they haven't had in a

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long time outside of Otani. But Nevin said, quote the
highlight of the night for me was how Griff threw
the ball end quote. Now that is total garbage. Like
there's you scored twenty five runs.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
You will see.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Twenty three of those in the first four innings. That
is the highlight. That is awesome because you are constantly
scoring runs and you are not going to lose the game.
And I get what he's doing, but it is the
most coach speak line that you could ever hear. Well,
I love all Griff through the ball.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Nobody cared. Nobody cared. They wanted to.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
See more home runs. They wanted to see more runs.
I don't even know if Griffin Canning's family cared. He
was going to get the win anyway as long as
he lasted five. But yeah, my biggest takeaway love on
Grip throw the ball. That's that's a bunch of bs.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Griff Brondra under four with that effort three nine nine,
now six and two on the season with a one
to one six whip.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
You ever have a great steak like you know what?
The highlight was actually the the asparagus.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Roasted perfectly seasons I paid much enough fight I pait
one hundred and twenty bucks for this, But the add
on side like that was real highlight.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Just I mean, I know this steak has been aged
for so long, but they're all highlight was what they
did with that asparagus. It was. It was amazing.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
At fifteen dollars baked potato was out of this world.
Pal Let me tell you, oh man, it is. Uh.
It's a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday. Here Dan Byer with me,
Mike Harmon, Welcome in. As Dan said, all your thoughts
on what you've seen through Major League Baseball's first half,
because that's where we're at at Dan Byron, Fox at
Swollen Dome. You want to get in now. We would

(14:57):
be Remassi if we didn't hit the rewind button. Just
a couple of day, we had the NBA Draft. It
was an odd, confusing, confounding draft, and maybe more people
watch because they had no idea who was getting drafted.
We'll talk about it next here on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm much more on Major League baseball at the midpoint,

(15:17):
as we've got a game getting ready to start from
London thirty five minutes from now. I love it. It's,
you know, like we football Sunday when they're playing in
Germany or London and we get to break it down
live as it's happening. It's about as good as it
gets live live events. We've got golf from overseas as well,

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so I mean we get a lot going on here day.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
I am I am. I am a fan of international games.
I've never even I've never attended one, but I do
like the feel. I do like the look. I like
it when the NFL does it in London. Not only
does it provide an extra broadcast window, but actually just
I just like the difference. Is the Germany game was
a hit. I like it when they go to Mexico,

(16:00):
even though they're not doing that this year in the NFL.
I like baseball in London. I appreciate all of it.
Whether you're playing in Australia, Australia like did it years ago,
maybe when you're having games in Japan like they've opened
up the Major League Baseball season has done before. I
am a fan of it. I do enjoy it, and
so I enjoyed watching some Cubs Cardinals game, although quite one,

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quite a one Saturday affair on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, just it's the idea that you've got an event, right,
it's different, It cuts through the clutter you showcase. In
this case, it was all right, we bring out the
big guns on Fox. Here's Derek Jeter joining the pre game,
and he's part of the festivities. A lot of on
my timeline, a lot of folks getting a picture, getting

(16:45):
an autograph, shaking hands, kissing babies, and you get him
and Ortiz together and you're having a blast right on
the set, but trying to figure out how to make
it a one off event. And that bleeds straight back
into the draft from the night in the NBA where
outside of Victor Winn, Bayama, And if you're a fan

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of a certain college team, maybe you followed a player
or two along the way, there are a lot of
names that you don't know but as a casual fan,
because they're coming from all over. We're talking international players,
the arrival of these other upstart leagues that are different
pathways than the traditional college entry point. So I wonder

(17:27):
if that played in because on cable. When you combine
the two channels, they actually have the highest ratings for
a draft that we've seen. Yes, without any drama at
the top.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
When you combine the two. But I think the network
allows you, and I know TV is different than it
was ten years ago and twenty years ago when you
combine them. But the ESPN broadcast got two point seven
million by itself. The College Baseball World Series game I
think got two point one. That's what it so, not

(18:00):
a huge huge gap and that was on ESPN two.
So for the ratings, so the combined ones they will
tout as yes, this is great. I watched the normal
broadcast which was on ESPN, the traditional broadcast host and
two or three analysts, and I think ABC's was a
little bit different with Na Gandhi and Stephen A. Smith

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doing their stuff. There's a lot that plays into it.
And Mike I just feel I feel it's where the
NBA is. I feel it's where college basketball is. It's
where the process of prep basketball and recruiting is. That
none of these they're not on the same path of

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each other. Like right now, college basketball in the NBA
might as well be different sports because one thing is
not correlating to the other there's you know.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
As evidenced by the fact that you had three of
your more decorated players go undrafted. Yes, exactly, guys that
this year. Not Hey we're looking back two or three
years and they had horrible down seasons. No, they just
don't fit with the NBA projections. And we're talking about
prospecting more than anything else.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
You know, Trace Jackson Davis ends up going to excuse
me from Indiana, goes to Golden State, and I know
that there was some stuff with his contract and what
he was going to get from the Warriors as opposed
to maybe other teams, but that was also a name
that we had heard so much about throughout the season,
and he ends up being a late second rounder. I

(19:32):
think I think, I think what encapsulates it the best,
Mike is Kansas, where you've got a Kansas team that
was a number one seed in the NCAA Tournament and
the best player on their team was Jalen Wilson this season,
who goes in the second round, but the best prospect

(19:53):
on their team was Grady Dick. And I think that
you get that. You're getting that a lot now college basketball,
and that's I just I think it's I think that's
why they're different. I also think that the NBA is
changing in ways that made it different. But it was heck,
it's difficult for the casual person. It's not easy for

(20:15):
you and I either, you know, like I fully admit
I didn't really know anything about the Thompson Twins. Didn't
didn't you say a few of their songs? I think
that there was some published Scoot Henderson, you know, there
there was a push. We saw some of him, but
there wasn't that with the Thompson Twins. And that is

(20:36):
something that is you know that that maybe I don't know.
Maybe ESPN needs to do more. And and I was
critical of ESPN's broadcast. The reason I was critical of
it is because I felt that Jay Billis was the
only one who actually knew some of the players. Because,
let's be honest, like the others are all the on
the NBA side of things, and none of these guys

(21:00):
that are entering the draft to played a minute in
the NBA. They're all about to be in the NBA.
So you only had Billis who saw these players and Mike.
It's extra work now when you're adding the Thompson Twins
and you're adding Scoot Henderson when you're adding the other
kid from France, WIMBA NAMA's teammate u R. You know,
so there's you know what you needed. You needed one

(21:23):
of those draft guys, just like ESPN as Melchiper Junior,
just as the NFL network had Mike Mayock and now
Daniel Jeremia. He kind of needed that guy that was
all in on the on the draft and the prospects
sitting at the desk, and they didn't have that on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
See one of my big criticisms of this and the
NFL does it right. It's a long build up. You
get all these montages, you get a lot of player
evaluations team needs, which means you're going to encompass a
bunch of the prospects. Well, they need a wide receiver.
Here's a chance to showcase five different guys that might
be available. With the NBA Draft with so much unknown,

(22:00):
particularly we start talking about the overtime Elite League. The
only thing I knew about it is there was a
card release a couple of months ago, so people had
been kind of picking up the Thompson Twins and a
couple others out of this just pure speculation that they
go early and that it hits and everything's right with
the world. Likewise, the overseas players, you don't know a
lot about them, right, and you could do your due

(22:22):
diligence yourself. And to your point, you got Jay Billis,
who has to now go evaluate a league, not just
those players. He's not gonna go look at a full
league to figure out what do they mean in the
context of this league. But the larger point is you've
got a lot of hours of programming all the way
down to the OCHO. You got a lot of hours
of programming. There were a lot of opportunities to do

(22:46):
five minutes. You tell me you can't get some sort
of numbers from just pulling some highlights and doing little capsules.
Between that and your your websites and social media, it's
a win for days of Hey, this player here there,
Like Grady Dick was a guy that played really well, right,
big prospect until he wore the we're not in Kansas

(23:07):
anymore suit. Nobody knew who the hell he was unless
you're a big college buckets.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah right, yes, So that broke through.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
And all of a sudden, all right, now we get
the due diligence of what he is as a player,
but it's just that kind of thing. You had a
lot of opportunities leading up to Thursday night instead of
just what's Victor gonna do, what's Victor gonna wear? Blah
blah blah blah blah. Here he is. I love that
photo with him and David Robinson, Tim Dunkan. They got
Tim Duncan to pose for a photo, but the fact
that they're so much shorter than he is and his

(23:39):
legs are bent and he's relaxed, Like wow, that's just
not It's like me standing next to any of the
guys that come, like next, standing next to you, Dan
as we're here in the studio. But you had all
this opportunity and build up to really promote all these
players and the product that you were putting out on
Thursday Night. I don't know how that doesn't help the NBA.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
The NBA bends over backwards this past year to hype
wem Binyama. I mean, if you were if you were
to scrub every tweet that they sent, you'd be surprised
at how many wem bin Yama tweets there actually were
from a guy that wasn't even playing in the league, Like,
there was a lot of hype with that. I think

(24:19):
that could be a role that could help a network,
that could help a network partner like ESPN to provide
that sort of access to it. Maybe maybe ESPN was
just putting just a really tough spot because of what
it has become. But it just was so apparent to me,
not even Mike with using you know, Trace Jackson Davis
or Oscar Sheibwey who ended up signing his deal with

(24:43):
the Pacers, I believe, and then Drew Timmy ends up
getting something with the Bucks. Absolutely, Like those are names
that that we followed and we knew from college basketball.
It was just it was the what Kansas was again,
Grady the top prospect, he was considered a lottery pick
throughout much of the year, but Jalen Wilson was really

(25:05):
their best player. And it's just it's two different worlds.
They might als be two different sports with how we
look at him, And I thought that for a while, Mike,
that players And what I'm also saying is I'm not
saying that college doesn't benefit these guys, because I think
it does, and I think it does more so than
people would want to believe. But when you have a

(25:27):
top talent and you see Scoot Henderson and you're like,
all right, well he's a top talent. Scoop probably would
have been great in college hoops and would have been
a name that we would have followed throughout the year.
That sort of talent is undeniable. But I just I
love college basketball and I love what it is, but
it's just right now, it's just not They might as

(25:49):
well be two different sports. I look at Jalen Suggs
from a couple of years ago in the run that
he made with Gonzagats of the championship game, and he
was a top prospect. But the I thought there would
be he would be the guy to be like, look, kids,
look what happens when you go to college. Now you
can end up being a top five pick. And I
just I don't believe that anymore. I've changed my opinion.

(26:10):
I don't think it. I think they're just two different things.
If you want to play in college hoops and make
nil money, go right ahead.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Because that's the other thing is that it's changed tremendously
from the economics of it and what you're trying to
get out of it, because you know, I've long been
a proponent, and I wrote articles all the way going
back to the Maurice Clarett, Mike Williams, uh the I mean,
it's the kindest way to put it. Where they got

(26:37):
bad legal advice and then got absolutely screwed. Now Williams
ended up going again as a top ten pick with
the Lions. But he came into the league and he
looked like a tight end, but he wasn't. That wasn't
his position. That went and he was out of the
league pretty fast. Still signed a decent check to start whatever.
But how much different could his life have been if
they'd gone about this better? Maurice Clarett, we all know

(26:58):
the stories. Here on a road and a new path.
So good for him. But if you can go pro,
go pro, right, and stopping guys from going pro always
seems silly to me. Right, you can go sign up
for this, that the other, but you can't go make
a paycheck. Right. You can dive out of school to go. Hey,
Apple recruited me after two semesters. You know what, you

(27:20):
can have the rest of my scholarship back. I'm out
that kind of thing. So you have all of those
different paths. But now when you talk about NIL, do
you stick around for another year because you're guaranteed. However,
many some of these guys it's a couple of one
hundred thousand dollars. For others it's a couple of million,
which may not be waiting for you at the NBA

(27:40):
level at this point, or you don't want to go
play overseas, which might be one of your other options.
And look, if you don't want a degree, you don't
want a degree. We see so many guys going back
years later promises to mom, grandma or deciding they need
a different path. Schools are never closing, like that's long
been my argument to all this. You don't even have
to wear pats. You can get a degree out of

(28:01):
your house right, never see another person, and then meet
the mailman or FedEx guy at the door and grab
your diploma. Nobody has to ever really see you in
the light of day, and you can get a degree.
So you know, the paths are so varied, and the
change with NIL and all of these rules and these

(28:22):
upstart leagues where you've got some money and some funding
that roll it up that you know it's never going
to look the same. Yeah, we can't unring that bell.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I think the overall point and kind of to sum
it up, Mike is this is I think that the
NBA is going to be fine. They are going to
be okay. You know what college basketball is. Okay, college
basketball is really good right now, really is. And I
think NIL has helped that. I think transfer portal has
helped that. There are some negatives with it, but I

(28:51):
do think that it has gotten you more interested. I
think the casualty just ends up being the NBA Draft sure,
like that's the you know, you've got these gains in
these other places, where are you going to take the hit?
And I think right now it's a broadcast of the
NBA Draft because there is this it's this linear thing
with college football in the NFL, the college football is

(29:12):
at one level the NFL, same path right above it.
You don't have that right now with the NBA because
you have so many different paths that you have so
many different ways now to get to the league. I
just as we watch basketball here in the States, I
think that the NBA drafts broadcast really comes to the
casualty of the NBA getting better and college basketball getting better.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
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(29:57):
US Open. Dan's wearing his hat. Guess what nobody won?
The one I offered. I almost wore it into it,
but maybe next week. But first we got our guy,
Isaac Lowencrown. He's got what's trying to get across our
sporting universe.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Hey, I Low Good morning, fellas, and what's trending? Our
top story and amazing game Saturday night in Major League
Baseball as the Los Angeles Angels one of Colorado twenty
five to one. The Angels led the game after four
innings twenty three to nothing that included a thirteen run
third inning and an eight run fourth inning. The Angels

(30:33):
had five different players with at least three hits at
a home run, and so fellas. In the interest of posterity.
I will now individually chronicle the offensive performances of all
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(30:55):
singles two un ARBI, show Hey Tny one for six
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home one two singles three one FOURBI, mat Fics three
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Hunter Rentro five for five four RBI, and one of
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Speaker 3 (31:18):
Proofs of man Uh if only the camera was on
as Isaac played the role both visually and in the
audio facet.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Smoke is coming from my head sweat as as someone
from HR stands outside the door for a test for
performance enhancing substances. After that, after that spiel, the Washington
Nationals one in San Diego two to nothing. The Dodgers,
on a game winning bock in the bottom of the
eighth inning, defeated the Houston Astros eight to seven, the

(31:49):
Dodgers of one four in a row. Today's action gets
underway at the top of the hour from London, England,
between the Cardinals and the Cubs. Finally, in College of Basketball,
West Virginia named assistant Josh Eilert's interim head coach for
the entire twenty twenty three twenty four season after the
departure of Bob Huggins Fellas.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
What can I say? That was powered by Donuts?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Back to you, Sugar and Isaac Lohangrod At Isaac Lohangrod,
you got a game later on today, Ilo at Houston Dash,
thank you. Here we go the Dash at Isaac Lohangrod.
Check it all out. You can always listen to his
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(32:29):
it'll replay. So I always sync it up to the
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Speaker 2 (33:15):
Hey, welcome back in by Carment Danbyer live from the
tirerac dot com studios. You've got any thoughts on what
you've seen? Major League Baseball twenty twenty three coming up
at the top of the hour, we'll dive back a
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got Cubs Cardinals coming up a little later, and then

(33:37):
Sunday Night Baseball's the Astros in down to play the Dodgers.
A lot of hate a lot of vitriol controversy last night,
what seemed to be pretty much a pretty clear bulk
to me has people up in arms as that's what
allows the winning run to score. So chaos ensues.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Dan Barr Box in Major League Baseball, making the season
even better. I want to wrap up just our point
about the NBA draft. Yeah, Abigail sweet it in and
it's a really good point again, and this is to
the point of what is the draft doing, What is
the draft serving? Who is it serving? And right now,
I think the emergence of college basketball, what the NBA

(34:16):
wants that the casualty right now is the NBA draft.
Her point was the draft was confusing because of all
the trades. Sure of guys being drafted by one team
and then they're gonna be sent for another. And and
that is another part of it. The NFL draft is
not a means to get your books in order or

(34:37):
to you know, to clear this and do that. Like
you are trying to find players and you're trying to
find starters, and it's it's easy to follow. I mean,
it just really is in the NBA a lot more difficult. Okay,
we're gonna do this, you know, just even for the
non casual there's a pickswap here and we're sending these rights.

(34:58):
It is very confusing and again like it comes at
the cost of the draft for the NBA teams to
do their business like that, well.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
And you're offloading all those bad contracts and everything that
goes through. It is always the funny thing because I
hear it at trivia. If you go to a trivia
contest now and again, and the question comes up, especially
locally here in LA who was Kobe Bryant drafted by Yes,
my eye, he's always a Lakers, Like, well he really wasn't, Yeah,

(35:27):
at least for a minute.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
And that's you know, gone on. Heck, as you said,
going back to the mid nineties, it just seems to
be more prevalent now though.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
If sure, well, but then you get the graphics that
don't make any sense because there's thirty seven things on
the screen. It's like, how do we simplify this, what's
the what's the endgame of what really happens for fans
to understand as opposed to a bunch of language about contracts,
future swaps whatever for the coming year. What does it mean?

(35:57):
How does my team get better break that down for me.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, simple as that, simple as you go.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
All right. US opened last week. We were there La
Country Club, great host to US Media Center. Was a blast.
The food spread was good. That these little chicken sandwiches
that really just wanted to stack them up like a
pyramid and work your way down to the base.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Mini chicken sliders Isaac loahing kron if Isaac lowing kron
is available, Mini chicken sliders, Crispy Chicken sliders over under.
How many did I have sliders? Now? Not mini chicken sliders.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
I hope you don't get offended.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Eight.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Hey, that did offend me? Under under five.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'll take the under on that. I didn't watch it,
watch you eat, but I'm gonna guess it was under No.
I saw a couple other guys. They they might have
been tipping to the over Oh now, one thing that
was there. I didn't get anything else. It was the
only thing that I ate. It was the only The
barbecue sandwich was pretty good. Beef with the barbecue sauce

(37:03):
was pretty good. Yes, he was gone it as well.
But then there was a snack table, and I have
to wonder because we had a couple of folks come
from Fox Sports Radio that were around as well. There
were a couple of uncrustables hanging out in the fridge
when I went to grab one of my you know, beverages. Yes,
I'm like, all right, we filled our pocket with uncrustables
or is this a coincidence? Hey?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
There for everybody, I know that there was a lot
of a lot of goodness. I don't think Ethon even
made it to the media center, did you. No, he didn't,
So I.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Just wanted, all right, so, all right, he's clean and
blameble so that regard he could do the whole Vegas
blackjack dealer thing. But we get down to it, Wyndham
Clark rolls away with the victory. Ricky Fowler, seemingly still angry,
goes and shoots a sixty at the Travelers this week. Right, Yes,

(37:53):
found found his stroke and had one of those rounds
that I mean we were talking about Tom Kim when
we were on site last week and the front nine
that he had had, which was just a blistering pace
follower comes back. But all of that energy for Foller,
for McElroy, I kind of felt bad to a degree,
only slightly for Wyndham, Clark, because I don't think he

(38:14):
got the same love he might have otherwise because people
were so much on the storyline, yes, enveloping those other
two golfers.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I'll I'll just say this, and you're right about that,
but that is kind of the cost of doing business,
because it reminded me in twenty seventeen when brooks kept
Goo won at the US Open. And now you look
at Kopka and you're like, oh, jeezus, five time major winner.
You know this is he's one of the best. But
at the time brooks Keptko was a one time major
winner and a leader board that now you look back

(38:44):
out and you look back on and say, wow, it
was amazing. But that week was so heavily criticized. Two
wide fairways, scores were too low, you know, who are
all these players? And now you look back on it
five six years later, you're like, that was pretty good.
US Open. I don't know if we're going to get
that here. I just I get the atmosphere. I get
it's different. Maybe there wasn't a big winner, but I

(39:05):
still don't know how you can't become engaged when Rory
McElroy is in the hunt and he just didn't get
it done on Sunday, which is a story in itself.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, I think just the casual conversation. There was just
so much animous with the club itself that it bled
into everything else. Back in the Major League Baseball twenty
twenty three X Welcome in our two of the program,
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(39:53):
in for everybody. Iowa. Sam already bouncing off the walls.
He just got here.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
He is, He's going crazy, And I'm glad. I'm glad
the donuts or puts some good use. Started with thirteen.
Well it's twelve, and they gave you a little extra.
That gave the old baker's dozen donut holes.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
On top of that, some donut places have lost that tradition.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Not this one, sad, not USA Donuts, not just up
the street from the Fox Sports radio studios. They give
you the Baker's Dozen, and we are greatly appreciative of it.
I think we're boring, Yes, yes, de grease, but I.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Mean, look at this crowd. It's like we talk about
all the time. It's radio and it's food. You just
drop it in the center of the table, put a
little time laps camera on. It'll go. Doesn't matter what
it is, what's this in the bowl, doesn't matter. It'll
get eaten.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yes, yes, if it Maybe I'm not eight donuts in
like the sliders Isaac thought I had, and I'm also
not five donuts in. We're going to cap it at
too today.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
That you were into full gluttony mode. And in my
house growing up, though it was an idea, was never
be a shame to pile it on because you had
three growing boys, which means you know you were fighting
for that last pork job.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
It amazes me. It amazes me. I'd love to hear
some harmon family story.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
We've got some good ones that'll be in my book.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
It amazes me yet again on how much people don't
understand in playing the game. It was set up there
for Isaac to give a load number like three, because
then I come over the top with the enormous number.
It's like if you're if you're talking with a buddy
and you're saying, you wouldn't believe how much that house

(41:38):
sold for. You don't want to high end it because
it completely takes away the thunder of the answer. Yeah,
you purposely lowball it, so then he can come over
the top rope with the you go one million, He'm
like two point eight million dollars. That's that's what you do.

(41:59):
So what I said I had eight, It was then
I couldn't be like I had five because I had
to go, oh, no, I had five.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
You were looking at that thousand square foot to beds
or one bath place to him.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
That's because I expected that he would uphold the reputation
of sports radio gluttony by saying, actually, I had ten
because free food and sports talk radio it leads to
you know ten. And they were many sliders. They were
many sliders.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
They were they were just yeah, they were sliders.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
That would have been on the low end for some
people in our business.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
They weren't many sliders, they were sliders, because many sliders
then would be like the breakfast biscuits at Chick fil A.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I would ask this question though, to labor this point,
because it's fun thinking out there. If you've got a
gluttonys story you'd like to share at dan byro on Fox,
at swollen Dome on Twitter. But I think there's a
difference between a media center gluttony and a press box gluttony,
right because press box, everybody's going back to work. In

(43:05):
the media center where we were, it was like a
nice leisurely everybody's sitting at a table, drinking their beverage
and talking about whatever they're talking about. Media Center, I
should say, press box, you go grab your food, you
go back and sit out. Nobody's really tracking clocking you
as to what you're doing here. You might feel a
little self conscious if you really pile it on, But

(43:27):
in the press box you can go up for like fifths.
Nobody's gonna think maybe you had to go to the bathroom,
maybe needed to refill his water bottle. Meanwhile, you're just
sliding back with no pun intended, sliding back with a
bunch of many sliders, and all of a sudden you
know the over is achieved.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
I just love the game, the number play on it.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Well, especially because it no it's a great point about
press box and media center because, as you guys know,
but our listeners might not be familiar with, one of
the perks of covering games at Dodgers Stadium is free
Dodger dogs in the press box after the fifth inning,
and some of our contemporaries in the sports media have
seriously gone after more hot dogs and sliders, if I

(44:12):
can put it that way.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
They show up in the fifth as well, because that's
what the free food.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Well, that's it. I mean, the game doesn't get interesting
to the fifth unless you're watching the Anaheim Angels or
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim do they still go by
that town? So either way, the twenty five to one
final bludgeoning of the Rockies in their terrible uniforms, and
then upon that, the Angels also said, you know what,

(44:38):
We're gonna take Mike Mustakus from you as well, so
he becomes the second player acquired this week, and Escobar
comes over from the Mets trying to do everything they
can to shore up this roster. Give up a little
bit of the riches, i e. The number of pitchers
that they drafted the last couple of years, trying to

(44:58):
shore up that part of the squad, but all of
it in the attempt of let's make a run this year.
And if Shoheo Tani decides to leave o, there's nothing
we can do about that. We've got baseball from London
coming up. You've got the Cubs, a couple of great stories.
They're playing better baseball, so that's exciting in the city
of Chicago. And you've got the Cardinals who have now

(45:20):
been in the last place. Get this, fifty three straight days,
good in division, Good a team, Matt you know what.
And it's funny because the Astros come to Los Angeles
and obviously everybody's remembering twenty seventeen, wondering when the cheating began,
when it ended. Our guy Bob Schmidt doing the voiceovers

(45:41):
and the lead ins for stuff, talking about, oh, you
don't speak trash, can here? Let me interpret? You know,
those kind of things. So having fun with it still
gets people's blood boiling a bit. Cardinals had some issues too.
They had some some scandal in terms of how they
were going and getting information stuff. But relative to the

(46:02):
other things going on when we look at the Astros
and Rob Manford this week going, you know, I really
shouldn't have given absolution for these guys like you think,
and coming out all these years later, it really it's
really not helping anybody. Yeah, I kind of screwed that
one up. All right, I'm glad you see it now.
But in the moment, you had an opportunity to lay

(46:24):
down the hammer, because that's what we always look for
from a commissioner, to say, all right, you've got to
draw a line that this is actually serious. Yeah, and
the infractions are immant as opposed to Wow, that's a
bad thing that should never happen again. We'll see on
opening day.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Well again, hindsight always twenty twenty, isn't it, Mike, when
it comes to these deals. But yeah, I'll say this
that those comments by Manfred would have been some seasons,
it would have been the biggest story in Major League Baseball,
and I think it was just a even to the
point of where we are since the scandal. But I

(47:00):
think that there are so many other things going on,
good or bad, depending on what side you're on, And
I think a lot of people do think that it's
bad even the Oakland A's, and that story has become
such a part of the conversation. And it's just been
a really good first half of the season. And I

(47:22):
know that the A's. Oakland's about to lose the A's
and it's not great for them, but it has gotten
the conversation going. People are talking about that, and there
are times when baseball gets lost in the shuffle. It's
just another point of what this first half has been.
It's been, It's been very intriguing, it's been very interesting.

(47:44):
You can only hope the second half of the season
is just as good.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, the a Is to me, a lot of it
is is great podcast. You want to, you know, instead
of true crime, you want to do the deep dive
on the politics and the grand standing and all of this.
On both sides. I think it's good for there for
Sports Dog Radio wake me when they move right in
the interim, you know, the reverse the reverse boycott was fun.
Manford's comments about that again kind of toned down, silly,

(48:11):
but it gives us a chance to celebrate what the
A's were. But this is a long time coming, right,
This is this is the We're finally at the one
yard line of what looked to be a seventeen play
long protracted drive. Right that were in the final final
throes of this of what seemed to use the Thano
snap in the Marvel universe inevitable.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I think that I think it's yes, it has been
a long time coming, but it's also been a long
time coming because of the ownership. And I think just
take a look at the Cincinnati Rats. It would be
very difficult to think of Cincinnati without the Reds. Sure,
and by no means are the Reds moving. It's not
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Well, we joked about it last last hour, right, the
owner a year ago in a town hall, going what
are you going to Yes, yes, exactly, kind of joked
about leaving. But you know, all of that saying this
is who we are.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
But imagine imagine the Reds two years from now trading
Ellie de la Cruz right now. It'd be crazy. Right, Well,
that's what the A's did and it may may not
be to that level, but that's what ownership in the
front you know, in the front office, ended up doing.
And so you've got this this push and pull of

(49:25):
you guys didn't show up to the ballpark. Yeah, well
you didn't give us a reason to Yeah, well we
gave you these players. Yeah what you traded like? It
is a back and forth and that is part of
the dialogue as well. Where and there's even just the
question of if is Las Vegas a good enough city
to host Major League.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
That's an interesting you know, that's the interesting component for it.
But it's I think it's independent of the ages. I
think it's just a larger baseball question. Does baseball play
given the everyday nature? It's you know, the belly aching
that folks do with the difference between fantasy football and
fantasy baseball. It's it's hard work, right that kind of schedule,

(50:04):
especially when you get into the summertime. By rolling out
to I mean it's one hundred and fifteen degrees and
granted I'll be in a temperature controlled stadium, but is
that is that I'm spending my day if I'm coming
into the summer at Las Vegas? I mean maybe if
my team you can get a little bit of that
destination for one game, but in general, I don't know

(50:26):
how much it plays.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
I don't know this, and I do know a couple
of people that live in Las Vegas, but I've never
asked them this question. So if you live in Vegas,
you lived in Vegas, I'd love to know how much
does the average resident go to the Strip because I
just I'm curious, like because if I was a local Mike,

(50:48):
like New Yorkers, they're not like, let's go to Times Square,
you know, you know, like that's the part that they
stay away from it.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
I mean we're talking Fremont Street to a degree. Then
there's plenty of other places if you you're still looking
for gaming, action or entertainment where you don't have to
go anywhere near the Strip.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Like if Yeah. So I'm just I'm curious because I
and I don't know Las Vegas that well. But it's
also the point now and you're building, you know, a
stadium downtown, you know, right down the strip. Different than
I think it's different than the Raiders a little bit
because Raiders at leased on the other side of the
freeway and it's a football game. It's different. I just

(51:25):
I'm curious with all of that.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
So anyway, so that becomes a thing, yeah, right, because
there's only eight plus your preseason and if you play postseason,
I mean, it's an event to go play around because
you're a Chiefs fan, because you're a Cowboy fan going there. Uh,
there's an old, dated kind of data here, but you
know my quick googling skills here. Las Vegas Weekly had

(51:47):
asked locals how often they visit the strip for something
other than work. Thirty two percent and they got four
hundred respond so it's a statistically valid poll. Thirty two
percent said they only go when visitors are in town,
and twenty three percent vote almost never. Yeah, which I
would guess right if you're in it, Yes, right, if

(52:08):
you're in I mean, I'm a Chicago kid. If you're
not in the city for work, you can get a
lot of stuff in the suburbs, or you can pop
in and get right back out. Sure right, come into
a game and go down through the l system to
Wrigley Field, see a game, pop back out to the suburbs.
So there's infrastructure in place. I don't think that's the

(52:28):
same when you talk about larger than that.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
In that case, yes, in in the summertime. I think
it's different than the Golden Knights in indoor. I also
think it's different because the Golden Knights are their team. Hm,
the gold Knights didn't come from anywhere else. The gold
Knights started in Vegas. It's their Heck, their slogan is
Vegas Born, so I think all of that place. But
that's been one it's probably been the biggest conversation that

(52:52):
we've had in Major League Baseball this year. I mean,
it's just I'm telling you, throughout the show, you will
be amazed at all of the stories that will pop
into your head of what's going on in the first
two and a half three months of this Major League
baseball season.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
And I mentioned Jordan Walker before three eighty eight over
his fourteen game hitting streak coming into this game against
the Cubs. Cardinals are terrible, but you can always find
a story. It's like we do with fantasy football. You
and ilsity I watch a flex podcast. Your team may
have two wins to their name come early December, but
you know what, at least three of those guys may
have some fantasy relevance on a week to week basis

(53:27):
because you're not getting shut out every week.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I love it. And the Cubs, by the way, threatening
already in the first after their big win.

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(53:59):
hoopla and barnstorming tour. Where's the better fit and why?
We'll talk about it next year on Fox. After getting
drum nine to one yesterday in Game one of the
London Series, Cubs are at it again, beating up on
the Cardinals three nothing, still top of the first We're

(54:20):
now twenty five pitches into the first inning bullpen game
to come here in short order. Yeah, the last place
Cardinals struggling to steal from the great Joe Namath, Mike Garmin,
Dan Byer with you here Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports
Radio Live fromthtyraq dot Com studios. Yeah, this is brutality.

(54:42):
This is starting to look at the Angels against the
Rockies last night. Dan, let's it is.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yes, Cubs not put four on the board in the
first but until you get the eight and the thirteen
or whoever medy.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
It was long road begins with that first step, Dan Byer,
and that's where we've begune. Just like the barnstorming tour
of DeAndre Hopkins after exiting Arizona, a team that I
think if we're we're gonna go down the NBA tanking
for Victor kind of thing, where in the Arizona is
clearly a team that is in the what else do

(55:18):
we have that we can sell for parts kind of mode.
Kyler Murray I would be shocked if we actually see
him on a field. Yes, I would say, hey, he
can move.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
There's no reason because the cardinal schedule by the time
they get Kyler Murray back will not be worth trying
to rush him back onto the field.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Nope. So we'll see if he's in the trade evaluation process,
that would be my guess as they vie for the
potential to go after Caleb Williams. But DeAndre Hopkins exits
stage left, and he's been seen doing a number of
visits along the way, weight rooms and concerts and you
name it all. Diana Rassini of ESPN reporting that Hopkins

(55:55):
is going over offers from the Titans and the Patriots
as we get into this last lull right mini camps
ahead of the full on throws of training camp to
come and beginning of all our fantasy football prognostication, et cetera.
DeAndre Hopkins at this point, I mean, there are some

(56:16):
high points, but he comes with the PD test, he
comes with some injury history and wondering if he can
be that top flight receiver once again. But two curious spots,
right Vrabel or Belichick? And when we look at Tannehill?
Is Tannehill still a Titan? Is he one of those

(56:37):
guys that you know, if a team has an injury
early in training camp, becomes a to the rescue kind
of mode. Or are we looking at mac Jones and
this is the all right, We'll put in an A
list guy to go with the mother money we spent
on other receivers, tight ends, et cetera, to try to
push this thing over the top.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I just find it interesting that it's down to those
two teams teams that he visited, and none of the
teams and the quarterbacks that he mentioned on that podcast
a month or so ago, none of those teams were
interested in bringing him in at all. I look at
DeAndre Hopkins in a unique lens of Mike from my perspective,

(57:17):
because I've always felt I've I've been on the other
side of the coin with him when he was at
the top of his game. I maybe wasn't as much
of a buyer, But when I saw what he did
last year and coming back from those that six game
ban I thought that there was that there was promise

(57:38):
there and it may come through a fantasy football lens,
but let's also be honest, that's a big part of it.
I don't think DeAndre hopkins additions to the Titans or
Patriots is going to make them a Super Bowl contender,
which is one of the reasons why I'm curious and
why are those of the two finalists, And I think
they're the two finalist because they're the only teams that
are interested. And so now i've you're picking between those two.

(58:02):
You look at Arizona's likely needing to go a little
bit further down before bouncing back up, and that's kind
of how I look at the Tennessee Titans, at least
from the offensive perspective of it. I mean, there was
a reason why Derrick Henry was on it was thought
to maybe be on the trading block this offseason, that
that team is going in for a reboot. When you

(58:22):
look at the rest of that division in where Jacksonville
now is atop that division, Houston trying to turn that
corner with c. J. Stroud and Will Anderson and now
Damiko Ryans. The Colts I think hit their rock bottom
last year and now they're trying to bounce on their
way up. I don't think Tennessee has unless Will Levis

(58:44):
is that quarterback of the future. They continually seem to
be searching. It likely it will come down to money wherever.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I think that's the larger point and why some of
these other teams probably didn't get involved.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Sure, but if i'm if I'm honestly picking like New
England to me seems like a much better option than
going to Tennessee. But again, that would be about winning
football games. And I know it's tough division, but still
you're in New England. Mac Jones is capable. It may
not be great, but there's hope that you could maybe

(59:19):
build something there. To me, New England just seems like
a much better option for a Tennessee team that I
have no idea where their direction is.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
No, it's it right. You look at Treylon Burks, looks
like he could be a player. Could a team could
team up there and be a decent one two combination.
The rest of the squad, I don't know when does
Henry hit his his wall. That's part of the evaluation.
And we'll get into Melvin Gordon's comments a little later
on in the show about the running back position, because

(59:47):
we've talked about it for years from fantasy perspective, in
the number of multi back approaches, and this is nothing new,
it's just really been magnified more of these last couple years,
particularly with teams running deep in the playoffs and making
Super Bowl runs with low round draft picks, undrafted players
at that position. That you've got a lot of disgruntled,

(01:00:10):
highly paid players at the position. I get it. You
understand why a Saquon Barkley's frustrated, why Austin Eckler's frustrated.
But the game moves forward, right, and you've got to
recognize your place in it. Sitting out is not going
to help your cause for a year. That's another year
on your body, even if it's not another three hundred carries,

(01:00:33):
you're still a year older. Perception becomes reality when these
two things hit, and when you've got an injury history
and such, it becomes an issue. Going back to New England.
You know, you look at the AFC East, you got
a lot of cannibalism. Right. We think Buffalo probably slides
back trying to figure out what's going on with the

(01:00:54):
Stefan Diggs Josh Allen connection, the Jets. Everybody's darling. That's
suddenly Aaron Rodgers is not only going to perform well
for a full season and he's gonna still act like
the happiest tourist ever to hit in New York, New Jersey,
but that he's also going to figure out how to
play in the playoffs for the first time in a
long time. Yeah, I have to throw the slight. I

(01:01:16):
have to a lot during the during the year, obviously,
you know my guy Smith during the weeknights. A lot
of battling there. But and then you got Miami. Well,
are we trusting what's built? Like you can have all
these skilled position players, right, you can add whatever you
want quarterbacks, how it goes are we're gonna be okay?

(01:01:37):
And we asked that about a lot of quarterbacks. But
we certainly with Tua Tongueva Looa last year, some scary moments,
a lot of questions, armchair armchair, you know, physicians to
some degree and more are our base instincts of my God.
But it's still just a reality of if he goes down,
what's what's there to take over and keep the line.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
The AFC East and the argument of it the best
division in football is one that you could have with
a couple of divisions. I do think that the AFC West,
obviously with the Chiefs Chargers were a playoff team despite
the collapse in that playoff game, and you expect something
better from the Broncos. You also have the NFC East
with what it was last year with the Giants and

(01:02:22):
Cowboys and obviously the Eagles making it to the super Bowl.
That's part of the conversation. But it's funny when you
talk about the Dolphins and you talk about the hierarchy there.
We've talked on the show. I think that the cracks
in Buffalo are significant, and I think that they will
have an effect on this season. Usually when this stuff happens,

(01:02:43):
Mike in the offseason, it's because there are bigger issues,
and the Stefan Diggs issue seem to become a bigger issue.
I don't think that Buffalo is built to withhold this
sort of this sort of friction, if you will. They're
a one dimensional team that was also very different when
Von Miller Tore's acl last year on defense. You know,

(01:03:03):
it's a team that relies. You're so heavy on Josh
Allen and then you don't get after the quarterback and
that's how you end up losing to Cincinnati and the
divisional playoff. And it wasn't like they put Miami away
in that wild card game. But when it comes to Miami,
I look at the Dolphins, Mike, I look at that division,
and I just look at Miami a second. I don't

(01:03:24):
know if the Bills are going to be first. I
don't know if the Jets are going to be first
in that division, but I just don't think Miami is
going to be first. They may be a playoff team
and to a maybe there, but to me, just their
makeup does not scream division winner. Like if I'm picking
someone from that division, I much rather pick the Jets

(01:03:45):
or Bills to win that division that I would the
Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Yeah, I think it just comes back to the cannibalism
and with an addition to the original point of DeAndre
Hopkins and a choice of a squad, all things being equal,
chance to go show out in New England. Whatever the
terms of the deal would be, are certainly there. You
look at the roster as assembled and the style of play.

(01:04:09):
They're always competitive, no matter how ugly it may be.
In the post Tom Brady era. It's not pretty football
most Sundays, but you're still a five hundred team overall.
You've got DeVante Parker, who you and I have been
talking about for years, get excited about him, flashes a
little bit and then falls off. Kendrick Bourne had a

(01:04:31):
nice year. You bring in Juju Smith Schuster. If you
can add DeAndre Hopkins to that from Mac Jones, I mean,
there's no more excuse making either performs or he doesn't. Yes, right,
I mean that's one of the things. You still have
a Hunter Henry there, and Gasicki comes over from Miami.
So additioned by subtraction, right, you know, Hey, we robbed

(01:04:52):
from Miami's riches at the receiving court. Yes, but that's
just it. Right, You go and you plunder it a
bit so and you know the defense is always going
to keep you in games.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Yeah, yeah, I think New England will be okay. And
it's just who's going to give DeAndre Hopkins the most money.
But I don't think DeAndre Hopkins changes any of the
hierarchy in the AFC East. I still would put the Dolphins.
I honestly, as I said will, I will put the
Dolphins second in that division because I just don't think
they have the ceiling of the Bills or the Jets.

(01:05:28):
I know, you hear Jets talk Monday through Friday, and
the hopes are high. They do really have a chance
to maybe let me in a bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
For a very special season with the talent that's assembled.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
But I don't see that with Miami, and I don't
see that with New England. Miami. Miami beat a lot
of bad teams last year, you know, and in the
division matchup because like, well they beat Buffalo and you
know they did beat the Lions, who ended up, you know,
showing quite the effort, played a lot of close games.

(01:06:03):
You had a streak though there a five game losing streak,
three game losing streak sandwiched in between a five game
winning streaking so that they can get streaky. It just
doesn't They don't seem to me to be the team
that can rise to the level of the division. I
think it's going to be Buffalo, and I think it's
going to be the Jets, and if the England ads

(01:06:24):
DeAndre Hopkins. It's just good to make it more difficult,
as you said, for those teams to make it through
because they will cannibalize each other.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
If you had to pick a winner of that division
right now, who would it be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I don't want to pick the Jets on principle because
I hope it falls flat because it's more entertaining five
nights a week for me. If that's the case, take
that out of the equation. But I find it hard
not to pick them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
I am with right I'm looking for and this is
football evaluation. Plus, let's face it, folks, we're trying to
be entertaining and give you information here and honest assessments
and whatever. But there are stories we root for. We
root for things to be big and for the Jets.
It's either got to be It's like the Dallas Cowboys

(01:07:20):
every year. It's either got to be great or it's
gotta be mired in such misery that it becomes the
top story. That way, if they're just eight and eight
going into the final week of the season, we're gonna shrug.
So either I hope it's a great success or it
fails spectacular. Either way, I have to ride the lightning

(01:07:42):
with Smith five nights a week, so for me the
other side, not that I wish any ill health for him,
I think it would be more entertaining for me on
a nightly basis. Probably probably will. Probably will. Even though the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Jets finish the season in awful fashion, there does seem
to be a Tom Brady going to Tampa sort of
feel to it, sure, where it's not only lifting up
the quarterback position and erasing the mistakes that were there,
it's going to lift all boats in New York defense,
special teams, that sort of thing, just like Brady did

(01:08:17):
in Tampa.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Well, and let's face it, we were talking a lot
about Major League Baseball. Do some more. As the show
goes on, with all of the great storylines, we certainly
have to look over at the Yankees, because you've got
their ownership going on radio and podcasts and everything going,
what's the problem here, what's your problem? But with Rogers

(01:08:38):
going to the Jets, not that the NFL is ever
short of storylines, and we have one of manufactured beef
coming up a little bit later on in the show.
That Rogers to the Jets adds a little extra juice, right.
It's like Russell Wilson going to Denver and then opening
with Seattle last year, and now Sean Payton is doing
a media blackout. There's gonna be no local radio coverage

(01:09:01):
at training camp. He's excising all of that and shutting
the doors. But we also have video of Russell Wilson's
now going to be in the greatest shape of his life.

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Dan Byr, I thought he's trying to sell us a product.

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Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
There is actually Fellaws a Twitter account named at Cardinals Misery.
Quite appropriate because at Cardinals Misery has just tweeted woke
up to find out it's four to nothing Cubs in
the first inning, going back to sleep unquote. They are
now in the top half of the second inning in London,

(01:09:55):
the Cubs leaving the Cardinals ford to nothing. All those
runs coming in the first inning on an RBI single
by Dansby Swanson, a two run double off the centerfield
wall by Trey Mancini, and an air by Cardinal third
baseman Nolan Aronato that was one of three Cardinal errors
in the top half of the first inning. Again, now
in the top of the second in London, the Cubs

(01:10:15):
of four to nothing lead over the Cardinals, and the
Cubs have a runner at second base. Meanwhile, speaking of
blowout scores at Cardinals Misery, didn't see anything so far
this morning. Maybe there's a Twitter handle out there at
Rockies Misery because a course field. On Saturday night, the
Los Angeles Angels one at Colorado twenty five to one,

(01:10:37):
a game that the Halos led after four innings twenty
three to nothing. They scored thirteen runs in the third inning,
eight runs in the fourth inning, and the Angels had
five different players with at least three hits and a
home run. The Washington Nationals what at San Diego Saturday night,
two to nothing. The Los Angeles Dodgers over the Houston
Astros eight to seven. The Dodgers scored the game winning

(01:10:58):
run in the bottom of the eighth inning on a
back They're now on a four game winning streak. Finally,
in college basketball, West Virginia named assistant Josh Eilert interim
head coach for the entire twenty twenty three twenty four season,
following the departure.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
Of Bob Huggins. Fellas all yours.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
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(01:11:36):
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Paxton Whitehead, the professor, all week long on the program.
You passed away at the age of eighty five. So
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Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday
Live from the Tyraq dot com studios Mike Carmen alongside
Dan Byer. And it's only appropriate in a week where
game shows are announcing big things out of Television City
and up to Glendale for the prices right, this is
just absurd to me, jeez. But what I'm gonna do

(01:12:27):
is I'm gonna hand you the giants.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
I hear about that. The price is Right is moving.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
They tape their final shows in Television City and they're
moving to a stage in Glendale.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
First Sayjack gonna leave Wheel of Fortune and now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
This stage thirty three is no more.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
If there's one thing you could count on, it's we're
getting the Fox family together for the feud. Good morning
to you, Mike Harmon. Let's go Ethan Miller, Iowa, Sam
and Isaac g Loohinkrown making up the Foxfamily today. Top
nine answers on the board. Three strikes one one pass
is available. If you don't know the answer, you can

(01:13:03):
use the pass. We will reveal a correct answer, but
the pass will not be available any longer in the
game for anyone to use. I also have the authority
to pull the pass from the game at any time.
Top nine answers on the board. I want to know
the nine NCAA schools that had a player picked in
the lottery in the twenty twenty three NBA Draft. So

(01:13:26):
nine colleges represented in the first fourteen picks. Mike Carmon,
we start with you the Crimson Tide. The Crimson Tide.
Going with number two overall, I think show me Alabama. Yes,
Brandon Miller went to the Charlotte Hornets second overall. For
our second answer, we go to Ethan Miller.

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
Oh Man, I'm gonna go with University of Kansas, Kansas.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
It was a topic we talked about earlier today. Was
it even getting lucky or was ethan listening? Show Me
Kansas Grady Dick of the Kansas Jayhawks now a member
of the Toronto Raptors on our board, Over to Iowa, Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Gotta go with the hometown chalk, Iowa.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Iowa?

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Nine NCAA schools had players picked in the lottery. Is
Iowa one of them? No, Iowa was not, you said,
lotteryy lottery. Yes, not in the first round in the lottery,
the first fourteen picks in the lottery, one strike on
the board. You disappointed in yourself, Sam, I wasn't late,

(01:14:36):
I wasn't listening. Yeah, intently, there, It's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
He was enraptured by the futility of the Cardinals. I
think to Chris Murray went twenty three to he just
wanted to get Ioway by that. I gotta admit it was.
It was really just an opportunity to talk. It was
nine picks off ISAAC this year.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
I know it's not UCLA because hawke As went to
the heat outside the lottery. As I tell my kids often,
you're trying to con a con man yukon.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Show Me Yukon. Jordan Hawkins going to Connecticut or went
to Connecticut now going to the Pelicans, fourteenth overall, the
final pick in the lottery. Back around to Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Carmen, featuring prominently in season two of The Bear Former
Duke Blue Devil coach Mike Krzyzewski. I'll go Duke, show me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Duke Derek Lively. Yes, drafted and sent to the MAVs
in a trade. Duke is off the board. Back around
to Ethan Miller. Pass is still available in one strike
on the board. Top nine answers the nine NCAA schools
that had a player picked in the lottery in the
twenty twenty three NBA.

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
Draft For some reason, I'm going University of Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Oh, just kind of out of nowhere.

Speaker 6 (01:15:53):
Yeah, pretty much?

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Oh, shut that shew me Houston. Jeris Walker goes to
the Pacers in a trade. He was drafted in the lottery.
Houston is off the board. Back around to Iowa. Sam, Okay,
I'm gonna be a little more confident here. I'm gonna
say Indiana, Indiana, All right, he's sticking with us Big
ten roots. Did he pick the right Big ten team?
Is it Indiana? No?

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
The Schafino went to the Lakers, I think seventeen minutes overawl.
We talked about TJD a little bit earlier, late second
round pick of the Warriors. Two strikes over to Isaac
Lohan christ sinking the ship. Yeah, there is a past
still available if he wants.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
Yeah, I might.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
I might punch another hole in the bottom of this, guess,
but I'm gonna go Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
You know, it wasn't a great year for Cal's crew,
but they had to have a lottery pick, right. Show
me Kentucky. Cason Wallace in that nice suit that he
wore on Draft night. He's headed to the thunder at
a trade. Kentucky off the board. Three more to go,
Mike Carmen, back around to you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
You know, Smith and I were on Live for the Draft,
and I gotta say, the Howard family really took front
and center. And because it's a Sunday morning show, I'm
just gonna nod and smile and say nothing more. Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Show me Michigan. Jed Howard a lottery pick that is correct.
He's on his way to the Orlando Magic. Two schools left.
A pass is still available. Two strikes over to Ethan Miller.

Speaker 6 (01:17:25):
This should be shocking, but I'm gonna go with Villanova.
You don't want to use the pass now, well, now
I'm gonna use the pass because last time I did
it when I did this, So I'm using the past.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
You are going to use the pass, all right, Let's
use the pass. Right, UCF is off the board. Taylor
Hendricks went to the Utah Jazz. So UCF is off
the board. One answer left, pass is no longer available.
He's zero for two? Can Iowa, Sam, I'm gonna give
you the eight schools that have already been tabbed Alabama, Houston, UCF, Kentucky, Misschigan, Duke, Kansas,

(01:18:01):
and Yukon. Looking for the nine NCAA schools that had
a player picked in the lottery of the twenty twenty
three NBA Draft. What school are we missing? I don't
know if they fell in the top fourteen, but I'm
going to say Belmont, Belmont. That's it's quite a Belmont.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
That's yes here Bella.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Is is he the one to contribute all three strikes?
Or is he the lifesaver? Ladies and gentlemen? Is it Belmont?

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Belmont Island, Indiana?

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Oh, man, I know that they all had first round picks,
but yeah, they were outside of the lottery.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Ironically, that's Alabama's non conference schedule for football in twenty
twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
The answer we were looking for Arkansas Anthony black Men. Yes,
Magic to the Orlando Magic sixth overall.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Well, we did get mentioned for three Big Ten schools. Yeah,
he's dead, Mike, nice work. Team back with more MLB
next on Fox. Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday.
Here Fox Sports Radio. We've got a tie ball game
in London, the Cubs and Cardinals going to the bottom
of the fourth. Good capacity crowd, all the pageantry. One

(01:19:18):
of the things you gotta love about the sending games
abroad is the the extra pomp and circumstance that comes
into it. I did my rant last week pomp and
circumstance and graduations of how we celebrate the Pafo family.
That went over well in the media center at LA
Country Club, no question about it. But we've got a

(01:19:39):
tie ballgame, so the Cardinals showing a little bit of life.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Converted soccer stadium as well, looking very good on TV.
The only thing that always weird to me out is
when dugouts aren't dug out of the ground when they're flat.
No sure with the with the field, it's always been
a weird, weird look for me. I think the that
way in Tampa. I think that's the case, but it's

(01:20:03):
just it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
So we've got that, Dan, We've got some golf going.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
On DP World Tour in Germany.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
We're in Germany, and then we're watching the Dolphins and
the then Washington Redskins getting after it as we replay
Super Bowls. We don't just do it in our minds, Dan,
We've been doing it watching Joe th Eisman throw one
of the worst fakes on an end around that I
think I've ever seen any dove to the ground. But

(01:20:30):
the helmets and just the again, the pageantry, the pomp
and circumstance.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Super Bowl oreous, Super Bowl seventeen. And one of the
things to note from this, this was this season off
of the strike year, so there was the strike in
eighty two, but also the Washington helmet and the helmet
nerds like myself know this, but I don't know how

(01:20:55):
many football fans actually know this, but the feather that
was used in the Washington logo actually curls around the
logo and the only time that it did that was
in the nineteen eighty two season. If you look at
other Washington helmets at that time, the feather on the
back would go straight down. It would just like fall straight.

(01:21:15):
This one actually curves with the circle on the logo
on the helmets the only season. Heck, they win this
Super Bowl. I don't know why they didn't keep it
for the uh, you know, for the other years, but
then it went back to the more traditional one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Yeah, watching the players run around, and you know, we
watch the evolution of players, size, speed, all of those
things and the difference through the years. But some of
the names you've come to know and recognize to the years.
I do have one question out of this, though, Dan,
what's that? Do you have that replica helmet up on
your wall?

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
I don't I have. I have a Commander's No, I
do I helmet. I don't have the eighty two. I
do not have that specific one. I do have. I
do have the normal redskin one that they wore. I
do have a football team one with just the number,
and I do have the commanders, but I just I
don't have the I don't have the curved one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Okay, just as long as it doesn't you know, set
me back majorly in the wallet. Assume it shows up
for your holiday holiday holidays, all right, if you remember
that I wrote it down, it'll go into my calendar.
There are two things. And Don Strack is on my
on my screen.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Yeah, it's because he's about to go into the game.
You want to know why this is? This game stands
out for a couple of reasons. Super Bowl seventeen. Why
it's important. Number one, the John Riggins run, I think
is the one that is is the most what this
is most famous for. This is also the year prior

(01:22:48):
to the drafting of Dan Marino. Sure, David Woodley in
Super Bowl seventeen went four for fourteen. That's it. The
Dolphins completed four pas in this game. So you want
to talk about what Dan Marino did with the Dolphins,
that's that's who. These Miami Dolphins were an atrocious offense

(01:23:10):
at that point. But I would also say, Mike aesthetically,
with the Dolphins uniforms and what Washington is wearing, I
think it could be the second best looking Super Bowl
uniform wise. We've ever gotten my all time favorite with
the field in the uniforms super Bowl twenty two Broncos
against Washington. At that time, the Broncos orange just pops

(01:23:34):
the end zones popped. The maroon offers this great contrast.
But this look with the the aqua of the Dolphins
such a strong, strong look. I would actually if the
Dolphins would have worn these uniforms with their the aqua
in the Super Bowl against the forty nine ers, maybe

(01:23:54):
that one would have been even higher rated.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
You think you'd ever want to expand, so maybe team
up with our friend CHRISA. Thompson and get into the
interior design mode to where maybe you can help with
people's man caves. Get the colors. Yes, there you go,
I'm finding enough.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
I had a display of my mini helmets that I
changed within the past twelve years, went to a completely
different had to throw away all the Ikia shelves that
I bought about that actually my son uses them to stack,
but I've put on many helmet holders. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Well, since you don't have a bunch of cords of
wood around for him, and then you don't work on
a farm, I guess you can get the kid to
do the stacking of planks. I'll have to show you
the display.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Isaac Lohenkron, you want to get in on thisversation.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
I do have a tidbit about super Bowl seventeen, but
I must say that's actually a great idea. I have
just registered man Cavemaestro dot com on behalf of soon
to be billionaire Dan Bayer. You want to talk about
an oni.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
The title.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yes, that is true.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
So super Bowl seventeen, dick Enberg is doing the game
for NBC, and obviously it's the biggest role in our industry.
It's the biggest audience in television every year, so everybody's watching,
and just before a kickoff, there is a technical glitch
in dick Enberg's headset, so he starts hearing himself on

(01:25:25):
a delay, so when he says, Washington will receive the
opening kickoff. When he says kickoff, he's hearing in his
own earphones Washington because of this delay, and he has
to do the Super Bowl before the biggest audience in
the world. He does the whole first quarter that way.
He thinks it's going to be the end of his career,

(01:25:45):
but it turns out to be pretty good. But afterwards
he was completely furious at this technical glitch. Can you
imagine something like that happening just suddenly out of the
blue in the biggest audience that you've ever experienced in
your life.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Yeah, that's happened before.

Speaker 5 (01:26:01):
He says, sarcastically.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Was it the Bonds home run?

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
Oh, that's that's another story.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Yeah, cut out.

Speaker 7 (01:26:10):
Actually good that it did, you know, because it actually
I mean, I do think you can't say too much
of that situation, but you got to let it breathe.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
That really let it breathe on that occasion.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Yeah, someone just holding down that you will not talk
button right now. He's Dan Byer on Mike harmon Fox
Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. You know what, since we
passed the batad to him, let's let them hold it
a little bit longer. Let's kick it over to Isaac
Loewenkron get an update on what's trend to get our
sporting universe.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
The Chicago Cubs and Saint Louis Cardinals are kicking it
all over the yard in London. We had an account
earlier at Cardinals Misery Wake Up, see that the Cardinals
are trailing the Cubs forward to nothing at the top
of the first inning, and at Cardinals Misery tweeted, I'm
going back to sleep. Will somebody wake up at car
Cardinals misery because would you believe They're in the bottom

(01:27:02):
of the fourth inning right now and the Cardinals have
just taken the lead over the Cubs five to four.
So the Cubs four runs at the top of the
first inning and an RBI single by Dansby Swanson, two
run double off the centerfield wall by Trey Mancini, and
an error by Cardinals third baseman Nolan Aronado. But the
Cardinals got back into it three runs at the bottom
of the second inning, Tommy Edmund an RBI infield single,

(01:27:25):
Brendan Donovan a two run single, and then at the
bottom of the third inning, the Cardinals would tie it
when Jordan Walker delivered an RBI single. Walker now on
a fifteen game hitting streak, and moments ago the Cardinals
took the lead. Paul Goldschmid an RBI single, So it
is four to excuse me, it's five to four now
the Cardinals over the Cubs at the bottom of the

(01:27:47):
fourth inning in London, England, a game in which the
Cardinals fell behind four to nothing to the Cubs in
the top half of the first inning. Speaking of a
lot of run scoring, on Saturday night, the Los Angeles
Angels What a Colorado twenty five to one. The Angels
led the game after only four innings twenty three to
nothing that included a thirteen run third inning and an

(01:28:08):
eight run fourth inning. The Angels had five different players
who had at least three hits and a home run.
Also Saturday night, at the Los Angeles Dodgers defeated the
Houston Astros eight to seven, scoring the game winning run
on a bock of all things, in the bottom of
the eighth inning. The Dodgers on a four game winning streak. Finally,
in the NBA ESPN reporting, Josh Hart and the New

(01:28:29):
York Knicks agreed to extend the deadline on his thirteen
million dollar player option until Thursday. The original deadline had
been at midnight Eastern Time. Earlier on this Sunday morning,
Fellas back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Thanks so much, Iilo ed Isaac Low and crowd where
you find him on Twitter. We got the team all here,
Ethan and Iowa Sam making it sound all oh so
pretty this morning. Mark Earlier, he tagged out after a
long overnight dan byer with me, Mike Harmon they just
chased Marcus Stroman from this game. There was a little
bit of an anxious moment though we don't have the

(01:29:02):
sound out obviously in the studio, but a very big
conference on the mound before he exited. As soon as
the trainers come out, you get a little bit nervous.
Nine and four coming into the game. A two two
four era chased from this one, but had an entourage
heading back to the dugouts.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
That's never good. So hopefully the best for Marcus Stroman
and the Cubs, because I mean, he's been obviously one
of their bright spots of this season. That division is
not over with no, not at all by any means.
So I don't know the Cubs have enough to put
anything together, but obviously Stroman's health is going to be

(01:29:41):
of the utmost importance. He was going to be hitted
to the All Star Game. Hopefully, hopefully still he still is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Ye Es shook his hand a bit awkwardly after the
delivery of a pitch. We'll see if there's any update
as we continue here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
I still have just stuck on the replay of Super
Bowl seventeen, and I'll tell you for two reasons, Mike
and we can move off of it. Number One, I
love when the NFL network shows old games. Like last night,
I was flipping around the channels. They were showing the
Dolphins and Niners from this part.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
You get sucked into those, like I get sucked into
a Law and Order episodes. Well I did.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
I didn't want to watch a game that happened seven
months ago or whatever it was, Like, I don't need
to see that one again. I like to see this,
like I like to see the games of you know,
of the yester year that we can that we could
watch and then you're like, oh, yeah, that's right, that happened,
Or maybe watch a cowboy Niners game, you know from
the nineties when they mattered. Yes, absolutely absolutely, but.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
John Riggins, right, the graphic just goes up Super Bowl
record thirty five carries and you're watching him and the
legs are still pumping. He's got three guys attempting to
drag him down. I don't know. It's great to kind
of go back. I mean, one, we were kids, and
so this is you know, bringing that back a little bit,
but also just remembering where the game came from, all

(01:30:57):
those great rivalries and such of the past.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
But I think and that point is so on point, Mike,
because I think it's a bigger picture and you can
take this into anything that we say. And I've had
a buddy tell me this one time, said everything when
you were twelve years old was awesome. So when you
look back at at like the prime years of your life,

(01:31:20):
the sports that you watched when you were twelve, when
you were thirteen, you were fourteen, you will always go
to bat for those. And I feel like that's that's
how it gets when we talk about, you know, Jordan
against Lebron, when we you know, talk about greatest teams,
it's always like you were always taking up for your era.
And I just mentioned earlier that David Woodley completed four

(01:31:43):
passes in the Super Bowl. What I remember from the
Super Bowl again is the John Riggins run. Washington wins
twenty seven to seventeen. What a great victory. We don't
talk about a Super Bowl where a team completed four
passes and within that mic they didn't complete a pass
in the final forty minutes of the game, the final

(01:32:03):
forty minutes of the biggest game of the year, the
Miami Dolphins did not complete a pass. So when we
talk about looking back on it. I look back on
it because I say, Riggins running best uniforms, you know,
Dolphins and then the Redskins and the Hogs, and what
a great era when Miami had such a putrid offense

(01:32:28):
that they didn't complete a pass for the final two
hours of the actual broadcast. Like those things, those things
can get lost in the shuffles, and I think it
happens with a lot of our stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Buddy, I got to a bear super Bowl with Rex
Grossman based on Devin Hester and the defense scoring a
lot of points. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Hey, twenty years snammik, how about that Super Bowl forty
one appearance? Maybe they'll still rip on Rex Grossman.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Well, I mean it's always going to be the one.
I mean, Manning got his, was he great? No? No,
The biggest thing from it was Prince performing purple range Yeah, Rain, Yes,
that will always be the memory of that Super Bowl.
Now for me, the other one you go to twelve
years old, that's nineteen eighty five for me, Yes, and
embars running through now the year before I was laid

(01:33:13):
up with the surgery, so I had to skip football season,
like it was terrible. So the eighty four team that
lost to the forty nine ers, a lot of investment,
a lot of time sitting around watching eighty five. Just
one that lives forever. I think my brother still has
the video tapes that we had of those games with
all the commercials still intact.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
And those are even that's the key, Yes, that's the
good part. And then Washington wins the Super Bowl and
then the next year they get trumps by the Raiders.
You know, they lose thirty eight to nine, and then
so there's it's It's just funny to me because maybe
sometimes when you go back in your memory or you
are thinking, you do forget all of the bad, You

(01:33:55):
forget the negative, you forget like the context that it
was in to have a game that I By the way,
I knew this stat and I'd known it for a while,
but I didn't know it, say growing up. I'd known
it recently because you look back at super Bowls, but
that it's on right now, I think it's a big point.
And how when we're looking back at Michael Jordan, you

(01:34:16):
can nitpick certain things and say that this was great
or this wasn't great, or they were only this, but
at times we kind of just say, oh yeah, everything was.
Everything was either great or everything was awful. Here was
a game that was competitive until Riggins took over, but really,
how competitive can it be if your team's not completing
a pass. I think it ties into how we look

(01:34:39):
at sports and how we debate sports from eras, because
a lot of times the bad ends up getting forgotten about.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
But it's kind of funny. One of the taglines for
the show Smith and I do is always remember in games,
they don't have to be pretty, they just have to
be close. In bidal minutes could be the worstest X
on everything, but if it's close, we care.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
I was it a great game? I will correct people
and say it was a great ending. When Ohio State
when they went undefeated with Murice Coleret you mentioned him
earlier in two thousand and two, and then they played
a game against Perdue that was awful, especially if you're
an Ohio State fan. You know, for fifty nine minutes
and then Greg Crenzel hits Michael Jenkins down the sideline

(01:35:24):
on a fourth down and everything is great, but great ending,
not a great game exactly.

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An active morning. We've got golf and we already have
a lot of activity in that London series, Cubs and Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
It's good that there are runs being scored, just the
Cubs are the ones to score. I'm glad that we
get to show the London fans a little bit more
of an even affair between the Cubs and Cardinals. And
you mentioned this earlier, one of the rivalries that really
is a big part of baseball, and I think we

(01:37:15):
know so much of Giants, Dodgers, obviously, Red Sox, Yankees,
but like Cubs Cardinals is another and the Cubs, you know,
White Sox have their own rivalry. I think Brewers fans
feel they have a rivalry with the Cubs. I don't
know how much the Cubs fans actually feel the other
way with that, but Cubs Cardinals is a is a
real deal rivalry, and I would say, Mike, a top

(01:37:39):
three rivalry in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Top three. So you got Giants, Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Yep at two, Yankees, Red Sox one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
I do like that there was actually some consternation from
within the dugouts of the potential over exposure of Red
Sox Yankees. Why are we on Sunday Night Baseball again,
because that's what everybody has decided that they want, and
ratings for years tell us I agree what should be there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
I agree wholeheartedly. I actually I feel the same way
about the NFC East like I just I don't care
as much about a Giant's commander's game as I think
the network executives feel. However, in saying all of that,
I found myself victim to this. Gosh now eight years
ago and doing the math, we were going to Boston

(01:38:29):
for a vacation, and I felt like I hit the
lottery because the Yankees were in town. Nice to go
to Fenway and to see a Yankees Red Sox game
like there were there wouldn't have been a if you
could pick any team to see, that would be it.
And so so like I, for as much as I
want to complain about it, when I was putting the

(01:38:51):
situation of who would you like to see? Yeah, I
like to see the Yankees come to town.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
I don't have to do that. All the way back
in nineteen ninety eight, we sat in the right field bleachers.
Those are the seats that I was able to procure.
In my particular section. I had seven security guards. Really,
that's how much they expected shenanigans and chaos for that
particular series. I got to see Pedro pitch too.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
It was a little it was a little more subdued
when I went. Although that was the game where I
got up to get a lemonade and a follow ball
came and hit my empty seat.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
Yes, that's the closest, the closest I've ever gotten to
catching a follow ball. I was out getting a lemonade
for my wife.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Good lemonade.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
I don't know, it's hers.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Why didn't she catch the ball?

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
She tried, She did try. He was a guy that
the ball hit My chair fell down to the guy
that was in front of her. I grabbed it, so yep.
Oh wow. After by the way, ricocheg off some lady's head.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
So then that's an important part of the story there, dad. Yes, yes,
that's the seat and the role. Okay, that's fine. Oh wait,
you buried the lead.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
Uh. If I would have gotten the baseball, I would
have given it to her son, because she took one
off the noggin and just and then it shot back
up and there's no joke, no, And it wasn't like
line drive. You need immediate attention.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
She did receive attention because she got hit in the
head with the foul ball, but it wasn't It wasn't
as bad as as it could have been.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Yeah, I mean, you could have pulled one of those
moves like that kid that went viral, gets the ball
and looks at his mom and whispers, and then he's
got the pretty girl sitting next to him and go yeah, yes,
like oh look at him. Uh the charmer ever so
young yet Dan Byron Fox at Swollen Dome asking if
you got any big thoughts on the early part of

(01:40:51):
Major League baseball. What stood out for you. Maybe it's
because your team stinks and you just need to get
a little bit of the vitriol and hate. I mean,
we did to do it every night Smith and I
on the National Show seven to eleven here on Fox
Sports Radio seven to eleven Pacific time, him with the
Mets and me with the White Sox, trying to figure
it out. A month ago, I had actually turned off

(01:41:13):
the notifications because they were so sad time after time
playing some respectable baseball, and as we discussed a little
bit earlier, that division potential is there for the taking.
If you get hot, which is the most dangerous place
to be though, if you're a team trying to figure
out we buyers, are we sellers? Do we have contracts
that perhaps maybe we want to get out of long term.

(01:41:35):
If you're still in the hunt and then you make
that move, you've just got to be used to negative press.
Now in Chicago, Jerry Reinsdorf and the White Sox ownership,
they're no stranger to bad press about a lot of things,
so I don't think it affects them one way or
the other. Remember, Rhinesdorff also owns the Bulls folks, so
plenty of slings and arrows from local media and fans

(01:41:57):
for a long time to come. There one team that
has always enjoyed that bit of celebrity, and like we
talk about the Cowboys in the National Football League, the
New York Yankees. The expectations, right, you go to that
game and maybe you would have been defeated by a
foul ball had you not gone for lemonade.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
We'll never know, We'll never know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
We can do it via AI, we can probably recreate
the moment, but you've got the Yankees. Earlier this week,
how Steinbrenner was on with Michael kay in New York,
and he expressed some confusion with the fact that his
fan base is disgruntled, and Michael Kaye describing it, and
I think rightly so as quote very very set Steinbredder quote.

(01:42:43):
I understand they're upset. We'll confused this year being the
third week in June, why they're so upset, but that
they're upset, they're gonna get my attention. Of course, everyone
needs to know we're working hard on all fronts to
get this back on the rails that start playing the
way we were for that couple week period there in
May now struggled, and obviously it's a division We've talked
about a lot here, Dan of some of the great

(01:43:04):
surprise may not surprise because Tampa Bay always wins its
ninety games, but that they got out of the gate
so blistering hot. And he also ran Orioles or suddenly
having themselves a fine run with a bunch of young
players coming in and performing. Toronto, the bats still waking
up from Vladi Guerrero. Just the other day he hit
his first home home run of the season. But for

(01:43:28):
the Yankees, there was a stat that stood out to
me earlier in the week that aries right Oriyas with
his batting average at four hundred, he had more hits
than the Yankees had as a team if you excluded
Aaron Judge's early season performance. Now we get the update

(01:43:49):
on Judge that he tore a ligament in his toe,
so he's having trouble walking, and their non committal about
how quickly he'll be able to get back in the lineup,
if at all. So that's kind of a big deal
that's swirling under again. With the myriad of other positive
stories and big stories in Major League Baseball, it's kind
of sunk a little bit to the bottom. But the

(01:44:11):
fact that Steinbrenner, who's unlike his dad, doesn't say a lot,
it doesn't pop out of the weeds to do a
lot of a lot of discussion points, interviews or whatever,
must have finally gotten cajoled enough from the message boards
to have a say.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
Well, it's I'll tell you the the Yankees don't have
a chance, by the way, without Aaron Judge, so that
bit of news to them is going to be a jolt.
It is not a jolt to hear Yankee fans complain
because it even felt like for a time, and there's

(01:44:45):
there's a not to sit on the fence, Mike. There's
a positive part about it, and there's a negative part
about it. The part that wears on you if you're
another fan as you're saying, gosh, the Yankees fans are
complaining after all the success that they've had through how
many years, the team is alway pretty good? You know,
my team has you know, had two playoff appearances. And
I'm not saying my team in particular. I'm just saying

(01:45:06):
anybody talking, you know, in the last ten years and
hear the Yankees are like that can get that can
get nauseating as a fan. But there is also something
about fans keeping the expectations of your team, and I
could see why that would be uh frustrating the Steinbrenner
because you know, what can you do in a division
that is loaded. There's there's no question that that is

(01:45:28):
the best division. We were arguing over what was the
best division in the NFL, and you can make arguments
for different ones. There's no arguing that the AL East
right now is the best division in baseball with the
best team in baseball. So you have all of that
at play, and the Yankee fans are still mad and
they're in third. It's not like it's not like they're
the Red Sox, you know, who are in last place

(01:45:50):
in the division and are above five hundred. I just
he's right, it is just June. But now, if you
don't have Aaron Judge, yeah, they're they're not gonna they're
not gonna beat the Rays. They're not gonna beat the
uh Rangers or Astros if you end up having to

(01:46:11):
face them at any point in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
Yeah, I mean, and that becomes the curiosity going forward
with the contracts that you already have out with Judge
and Stanton and Stanton, Like the guy will never be
able to get any bit of positivity because of the
size of that contract, the amount of injury time and
everything else, Like he is set up to be the
sacrificial lamb. And I know folks can say, well, he's

(01:46:34):
got that giant contract, don't feel too bad for him. Like, no,
sometimes the body betrays you. It's like the guys that
get drafted in the NBA draft will get back into
that in earnest top of next hour. But I can't
help that a team drafted be in the top five,
right if it doesn't work out with them, there's a
number of circumstances that have I can still put up
stats and nobody's gonna love me. I mean, my great

(01:46:57):
example is always Christian Laner, who had a pretty good career.
It's not his fault. He was drafted number three overall, sure,
and the expectations were just so immense coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
To do after shack and a lones of morning, right,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Yeah, nice class to come out to, right, But with
the Yankees, the expectation is always and for better or
for worse. Right, I think if you're a fan, you
love that you can have those high standards, as opposed
to for a lot of Major League Baseball, NFL fans,
whatever else. You come into the beginning of the season
with hope and that's really all you got. Yes, like,

(01:47:33):
maybe this will work. Maybe we've cobbled together enough of
a bullpen. Look at what the anks that you've got
here to come across country where we are in Los
Angeles with the Dodgers as we come into action today,
ten games above five hundred, but you're third in the division,
only two games back. But you're third in the division,
a division that you're used to just running away and

(01:47:56):
hiding and taking care of business. But you got a
bullpen that's a disaster most nights. A couple of great
games this last week, but it's the Angels, and I
know it's hard to share. It's just the Angels with
they've played some pretty good baseball, but they're the twenty
five run barrage aside night to night. They're not, you know,
a conga line around the bases, but the bullpen showed

(01:48:18):
up for a couple of games. Stretch is it and up? No,
You've got a bunch of starters coming back from injury
and Clayton Kershaw has been the one guy you've been
able to count on to this point, and you still
every fifth day you're wondering, all right, how many more
starts do you get of that caliber?

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
Just last week there swept by the Giants, but they
were so depleted because you ended up losing Chris Taylor
at one point for a short time max months, he
hasn't been available. You talk about the pitching staff, that
of the of the there's the names that you expected
to be there, and then there's the names that you
didn't expect to be that still should be like a
Walker Bueller when there was a point just a week

(01:48:57):
ago with the Dodgers, truly you had bets In Freeman
batting one two, and then it was a crap shoot
there after the rest of the lineup. Look, yeah, yeah,
you're not counting on J. D. Martinez, you know, to
come through with those huge clutch hits.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
Well, I got a big hit from Vargas the other night.
He had gone one for his previous thirty seven before
were hitting a home run. But given the state of
where the lineup is and the attrition, they've got no
choice but to still put him in the lineup.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
Yeah, and so you know, nobody's feeling bad for the Yankees.
Gihan Collis Stanton has six hits this month. You know
nobody's feeling bad for them, and.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Certainly the Dodgers given their run of success. Folks saying,
all right, who else can step up in this process?
And well, we'll see if some of these great stories
of the first half continue. I do a spot in
Baltimore each week, so finding a little bit of love
to see and the positivity where we're not just moving
into Ravens season quite so fast in our assessment universe.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
It'll be here quick Raven season, even though the Oriels
are great.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
You know yeah, I will talk about Lamar Jackson any
minute now, no question about He's Dan Byron, Mike Carmen Here,
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season's too long for some of these sports. What do
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Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Last summer. I've a bunch of different friends that live
in different areas of the Twin Cities, and one of
them lives of west of town chan Hassen. Actually not
even chan Hassen, but Paisley Park. You go past on
our way, Well, just drove past. So last year took
my wife and because we went and visited some friends,

(01:51:35):
you know, so people the baby, and so we drove past.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Were they impressed by the baby?

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
Friends were?

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
Oh, yes, my wife was impressed with Paisley Park because
just where it's located now, and I mean obviously it's
it's been developed and it's in the burbs basically, but
still a neat thing to go by. I you know,
I even speak. I thought there were tours, but we
didn't take. I don't know if you can take them.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
Well, we got to just figure out how to get
invited into one of the parties that still go down there. Yes,
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(01:52:24):
including the Cardinals now six to four over the Cubs
here top of five from London with Alex Rodriguez and
Michael k on the call. So entertainment certainly there. And
we're still watching the final throws of John Riggans running
people over from Super Bowl seventeen. But as we talk
about running people over and well, running your mouth right,

(01:52:46):
three d hams and other things where you can go
and that's the new craze, like you're gonna be able
to print your meat. Okay, cool, but we print up
hot takes here on a regular basis, and now we've
got some manufactured beef in the National Let's Hear It
Football League. And this was the response from Travis Kelsey,
who likes his fifteen plus minutes of fame right, He's

(01:53:09):
going to extend it as long as he can on
his podcast with his brother responding to Jamar Chase kind
of joking about Patrick Who a little bit earlier.

Speaker 8 (01:53:20):
We got Chiefs be earlier this week, Bengals receiver Jamar
Chase told reporters Pat Who in reference to Bengals quarterback
Joe Burrow, conceding that Pat Mahomes is the best quarterback
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Thought it was a little bold.

Speaker 9 (01:53:33):
Yeah, the guy's a two time league MVP, two time
Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
To say, Pat, who is like.

Speaker 8 (01:53:40):
A little disrespectful?

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Patt didn't like it.

Speaker 8 (01:53:42):
Mahomes tweeted a photo of himself at the Chiefs Rink ceremony,
Glad you guys had fun doing that, rearing his two
Super Bowl rings with the declaration that'soer. I just wish
it would have devolved to who my Holmes?

Speaker 10 (01:53:54):
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Ma Holmes?

Speaker 9 (01:53:56):
I see where you're going with that. I don't know
if that plays here because nobody's name is Mike, and
that's the reference you're going to is Mike Jones.

Speaker 8 (01:54:04):
But ma, who Ma Holmes?

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
No, not letting you go there.

Speaker 8 (01:54:08):
That's want this to be chanted in Chiefs teams.

Speaker 10 (01:54:11):
Homes Holmes, Yeah, man, it is what it is. Doug
who doesn't love some good locker room banter man? Shout
out to Jamar Chase for, you know, holding it down
for his QB. But don't you ever dispect Pat Mahmes?

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
Now, no, I like his brother really trying to sell that,
Come on, Travis one trying Now. The other part was
I really thought it was being the interview is being
conducted in the conversation being directed by David Kector Whammy, Hey, Travis,
we're headed there.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Yeah, that's it's very good.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Kind of where we were going here. It's called Chicken
of the Cave.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
I thought that Travis handled it very well, and I
just I don't think that there is there is There
is a rivalry, But there is a rival because it's
a now a rivalry of the Bengals beating the Chiefs
three times in a row and then the Chiefs getting
their revenge in the AFC Championship game and getting revenge

(01:55:11):
from the previous year's AFC Championship game. That is what
makes a rivalry, Not one wide receiver sticking up for
his quarterback and maybe trying to take a shot at
someone else, which obviously I think Jamar Chase knows he
is not disrespecting Patrick Mahomes, but I think Kelsey was

(01:55:31):
put in the spot to at least defend his quarterback well,
and just.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
Like Mahomes responding with it with the ring ceremony and
all of that kind of fun stuff like you manufacture beef, right,
we celebrate. We talked about legacies of guys like Michael Jordan,
what's the big thing? Always had to create that somebody
slighted him or someone was the rival. And we've heard
that as a motivational thing, plenty of books written on

(01:55:57):
that very topic. Right, to always find something to fuel
you along the way. Here, I think it's just it's
off season slap fighting of let's let's get a little
bit of a chuckle and defend our guys.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
I think I think Bengals chiefs is more of a
rivalry than Bills Chiefs is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
Right now, Yeah, yeah, win a couple of big games.

Speaker 3 (01:56:21):
Yeah, the Bills have beaten them, but they haven't beaten
them when it counted.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
No, that's it, right, You've got to go steal something
from them in a big stage. Bengals were able to
do that, and then they gave away a game at
so far that they should have won.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Yeah, and and and with that, I give them even
more credit, Mike for the season that they had. Like,
if there was anything of telling you about a team
and are they for real or not, it should be
Cincinnati's response, which was last season and how they responded
in losing the super Bowl, Because the super Bowl hangover

(01:56:56):
is a real thing, and for them. To see them
work through their issues and to play as well as
they did and then make it back to the AFC
Championship game tells you that Cincinnati is for real and
they're here to stay. So, yeah, your point of a
game they should have won. To then put that season
together after that really impressive by the Yeah, I was still.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Mad at their fans leaving the stadium because it seemed
like we're happy to be here, like it was inevitability,
We're gonna be here a bunch Like, No, you never
bank on that, No, never, never bank that you're getting
another run. You mentioned Dan Marino earlier getting drafted off
of the futility of this Super Bowl effort. He got
there once very early in his career, never saw it again.

(01:57:39):
So assuming you're gonna you're gonna make another run, just really,
I was more upset, and I think their fans were
curiosity though in their backfield Joe Mixon, they bring in
Trayvon Williams and then you lost some AGP. Run was
a big part of what they were doing there, and
Joe Mixon's a guy that there were a lot of rumors,
just like so many other running backs. As we'll talk

(01:58:00):
about coming up here in the next hour that are
trying to figure out which end is up with their
respective roles, contracts and everything else.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
You know, Jamar Chase is gonna be back. I think
during the season there was a question on what they
were gonna do with t Higgins. True Higgins is back
and that is good news for the Cincinnati Bengals, giving
those three together questions in that backfield.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
And then you bring in IRV Smith Junior. Am I
gonna get suckered into him for Fantasy? Of course?

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
You are absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
He gets me every year, now, doesn't He's Dan byro On,
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(01:59:11):
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football dilemma that we have to talk out in your
very league, Dampire.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
I need I need the input of everyone, because it's
not of who do I draft and what scoring system?
It is how you weigh the drafting of players and
the social aspect of fantasy football.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
We'll get into that coming up about twenty minutes from
now at Dan Byer on Fox where you find Dan
find me over at Swollen Dome this past week, the
pomp and circumstance, the pageantry, the unveiling of the would
be superstars of the next generation of the National Basketball Association.
Yet as you came into the event, there was one

(01:59:57):
man standing tall all puns in ten did Victor Wemman
Yama guy. We've been talking about a bunch I was.
I follow it for multiple reasons right obviously here as
part of the core and the on air prognosticators and
yellers of Fox sports radio, but also I'd love to
dabble in the collectibles and merchandise and trading cards and

(02:00:20):
all those things. Tops did a product whereby after he
threw out the first pitch at Yankee Stadium, they did
jersey cards, sold out in a matter of minutes, selling
online for three to four.

Speaker 3 (02:00:32):
Times from the jersey he wore, threw out the front immediately.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
Yeah, and then they did a part of their Tops
Now campaign. As soon as guys got drafted, had their
hats on, they put up cards so you could buy
the base card, but you can also buy autographs and
you'll randomly get the autograph numbered for women. Yama was
number one hundred and ninety nine or less, so different parallels,

(02:00:56):
different color schemes, whatever. All the way down those sales
through the roof. You know when we're talking. I saw
one exchange uh in the eBay world for twenty five
hundred bucks, so multiply it out. Oh, there's a lot
of money, a lot of interest in the secondary market.
They've had some redemptions for wehn Bin Yama autographs and

(02:01:18):
some other cards that have come through that are short prints.
The amount of push for him, not only from prognostictus, because,
let's face it, some of the hyperbole surrounding this young man,
to me, it's nauseating. I have no idea how he's
gonna play in the NBA, whether he's suddenly gonna be
able to shoot three point shots with great acumen. So

(02:01:40):
to try to say he's got to be this all
time great, because that's where we're going with a lot
of this. It can't be he has a great career,
wins a couple of titles, whatever. No, no, no, he's
got to be the best of all time. He's generational,
the term that we use on somebody seemingly every other year.
There are generational guys like well, that other guy didn't,
that other guy didn't, And he's the guy that break through.

(02:02:02):
Curiosity watching him work through just with like a bigger
base on a guy that large when we've seen so
many ankle, feet, knee kind of issues through the years.
But I got my popcorn ready, I'm ready to watch.
And if nothing else, it gives us more years of
Greg Popovitch giving us great interviews on the sidelines.

Speaker 3 (02:02:22):
Yeah. That's another thing that is added on to all
of this is, yeah, how long is Greg Popovitch going
to stick around, oh with no tanking issues either, no
tanking issues and a draft that honestly was decided at
the draft lottery like That's that was the issue with
I think this draft that we had touched on it
earlier about the problems with the actual draft to really

(02:02:45):
no almost no fault of anybody. Some fault can be
put on some people, but you can always check out
the podcast for that. The drama of this draft went
away when the drama of the draft occurred at the
draft lottery. That's when it was the thing about when
min Yama that I that I feel is I don't

(02:03:06):
think that there's any way he can be a bust.
I don't think that there is. I think that this
is the closest thing that we will get to a
player not being a bust because I think that a
skill set is so unique, it's where it's so Mike,
so the floor starts above bust. It's just of how

(02:03:29):
high does that floor go to? What you're saying, we
don't know how great he is going to be. There
are questions about his schedule, what's going to happen through
an NBA grind. I think the over under and games
is sixty four and a half of games played, so
over then you're eligible for the All.

Speaker 2 (02:03:50):
And that's that's an interesting mark to put it in, right,
does he get that sixty fifth? Tick played forty four
for the for his squad this past year.

Speaker 3 (02:03:59):
But that also then tells you if the line is
sixty four, that there is going to be some rest
that comes that they are not going to at least
we don't think Vegas thinks that there is going to
be rest factor. And you know, Doug Gottlie pointed it
out on a show during the week, and I'm sure
others have as well. But you know, the whole load

(02:04:23):
management started with the Spurs, you know, and so it
would be no different now when you have this sort
of talent to make sure that you get the maximum.
Just it's funny that it wasn't seventy five, that it
is at that number of the All NBA team or
not to be able to make the All NBA team,
which tells you that they likely will rest him. But

(02:04:44):
I just I don't think he can be a bust.
I think that he's that much of a can't miss
prospect and it's just a matter of how big and
how great does he actually end up being?

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
Well, and that's the hope. The other drama that came
out of this, and it's something I pointed out draft
night and it got some steam. It comes to the
world of insiders and the deals that are done and
sponsors and employers. And that's as the number two pick
as to whether it was going to be Scoot Henderson
or Brandon Miller and the sham Sharania tweet about Scoot

(02:05:20):
gaining traction, we'll change the odds. And if he or
fan Duel or anybody associated with any of that thought
that wouldn't be the case, then they're a bunch of liars,
Like flat out, I call shenanigans one hundred percent because
we've watched line movement based on information forever. So to

(02:05:42):
try to say, well, we didn't know that would change
the odds, I mean, you know, it's like this is
what I was hearing. It's like, well, you've got a
responsibility there, because woj came over the top with the
giant for like mulnear Hammer to say no, they were
never off random Miller. What was their guy along?

Speaker 3 (02:05:57):
And I think that's what the betting line showed from
earlier in the week.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
Yes, it was very yes.

Speaker 3 (02:06:02):
And so that's why Shams' tweet was so out of
the norm because Vegas was again telling you something different.
It always goes back to Las Vegas with all of this.
Here's the thing about the Shams, It's a two part thing.
Number One, he got into deep when the NFL Draft.
Remember the Cardinals are going to take Will Anderson. Yeah,

(02:06:24):
and even though Will Anderson did go third, he obviously
went to the Houston Texans because the Texan Texans traded
up for that pick with the Cardinals. That is a
big deal. I'm sorry. Even though you went into that spot,
you're waiting into waters that you're not usually into and
you try to make your spot that that can hurt you.

(02:06:46):
This can hurt you. And what it's not that insiders
don't make mistakes, because everybody makes mistakes, but when you
have something like this, if this happens again, that that's
tough to come not to come back from, but it's
tough to shake. It's tough to lose. That. Not that
you wouldn't believe everything that he says, but this is

(02:07:09):
going to stick around for a while, not only because
of the betting, aspects that you said, but also just
because you feel that a guy is plugged in and
these guys usually don't miss. And now you're wondering, wait,
why is he missing? How is he missing? And are
others now going to try to use him because you know,
for their own for their own purposes, which insiders need

(02:07:30):
to be keenly aware of to do their job.

Speaker 2 (02:07:31):
Sure, it's a long standing thing, right, It's like our
guy Jay Glazer for Fox. If he actually comes out
with something pretty sure, it's already happened. Right, He's not
putting his name on a bunch of random things. And
that's just been the years in the business and learning
how much people are trying to use you. And that

(02:07:52):
doesn't you know, he's got his friendship's connections, whatever, and
people can think what they want there, but it yields positive,
proper in information when it's all said, none, And that's
not to diminish Sham's overall, but for this particular purpose,
it was, you know, as much as I can be
all for hey, grow the pie. When it comes to

(02:08:13):
the betting circles and legalization whatever, this shows the potential
for potential foul play and problems that are fraught from
the insider side of things.

Speaker 3 (02:08:25):
You can you can say Sham's messed up the NFL
draft pick because guess what, he's not an NFL insider,
like you can excuse that to say this. And it
wasn't a concrete report. It was the serious momentum, right, yes,
that that lends to what you are saying. That is

(02:08:48):
the bigger deal in all of this. Plus this is
his wheelhouse, that is that is almost unacceptable and you're like, wait,
how does he not have that? And then it draws
to the connections of the betting lines and those connections
and those connections obviously aren't going away, they aren't it.

(02:09:08):
It did add, by the way, didn't add the drama
because again, the draft was the night of the draft
lottery to find out who was gonna get wembn Yama
and there wasn't a lot. There was more drama last year,
remember Powlo Bank Carol Sure, And that's what the Scoot
Henderson thing kind of made me think of of For
a while. We thought so much, Okay, it's gonna be
Jabari Smith, He's gonna be He's gonna be the first

(02:09:30):
overall pick. That's where the magic are going and then
Poolo the odds ended up changing and then he ended
up being the first overall pick, and that seemed to
happen just hours before the draft. That's what I wondered
if what the scoot thing was, was it like the
year prior, And in the end it wasn't because Brandon
Miller for days had been the Vegas pick to go
to Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (02:09:49):
Yeah, I still say you should do they won. They
shouldn't do the draft lottery in the middle of broadcasting games.
How that's not a standalone event on multiple les just
astounds me.

Speaker 3 (02:10:01):
I'll disagree with you because there's only fifteen there's really
only five minutes of content.

Speaker 2 (02:10:07):
I think you can get twenty two out of them.

Speaker 3 (02:10:09):
Well they do, they do because they bring the guy
up on stage, but really it is a and I
love it. So I love the lottery. I love the
actual drawing and with the drama, but it would just
be Yeah, it'd be really drawn out.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
How about we do it on draft night? Now, that
would be got a half hour. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:10:27):
Everybody knew when Minamo is going to be the pick.
There was no surprise here.

Speaker 2 (02:10:32):
We do the lottery half hour or an hour before
the draft commences. All right, figure it out.

Speaker 3 (02:10:39):
Yes, I like to set our draft order in our league.
We've got other issues to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:44):
Yeah, we'll talk about Dan's fantasy football dilemma.

Speaker 3 (02:10:47):
By the way, this dilemma has nothing to do with
the league. So it's not about my fantasy team or anything.
I think it's stuff that all of us can relate
to you, And it's about your buddies and getting together
with your buddies and trying to hammer out a draft.

Speaker 2 (02:10:59):
I really thought it was going to be about you
trying to be an insider and you gave some guy
some bad intel and sent him.

Speaker 3 (02:11:04):
The wrong that only that only happened once. That only
happened once. We had an insider who was nailing every
single pick. Yeah, and so then I let my buddies in.
I go, you know, we have this guy gives us
some insight, and I remember, I go, he likes the
Browns plus eight against the Ravens and the game ended

(02:11:27):
like forty two to ten Baltimore one. And so like,
I've tried to shy away from doing that because that
was the one missed. The guy was on fire, but
instead of being eight and one, he was seven and
two because of that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:39):
Yeah, that'll do it. He's Dann Bayer on my Carbon
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Speaker 3 (02:12:02):
It's been a magnificent first half of the season, both
the good and the bad. We've had some sticky substances.
Max Schurzer part of that as well, and he hasn't
been able to pitch. It has been. It has been
a great first half of the season. As we reached
the midway point. Teams will be playing their eighty first
games of the season this week all Star Game. Not

(02:12:23):
the halfway point of the midway point of the season.
We're past it at that point. It will come this
week and Mike and I, you know, we started off
the show today and just talking there seemed to be
a lot of momentum with the World Baseball Classic and
then it carries over. Pitch clock games are lasting two hours,
and people are Most people are loving it, some people
are not.

Speaker 2 (02:12:43):
Loving attendance, Yes, viewership is up. All of those things
definitely are are part of this equation, and you can
say that there have been some positive will continue. That
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Speaker 3 (02:13:08):
Think about all the things that have happened so far
in the first part of this baseball season. You mentioned
attendance being up, Red's having a sellout in the act
bad days in this same season where they drew seven
thousand fans to the game earlier this year now.

Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
The month of April, that's what they averaged April.

Speaker 3 (02:13:27):
April weekday games are tough, especially in the Upper Midwest.
Weather doesn't always cooperate. You actually get some teams playing
more day games. School is still in session. That's a
problem with all teams usually in April. Now in the summer,
you we're hoping to see it. You mentioned the Reds
twelve game win streak ends on Saturday, one shy of

(02:13:48):
the race thirteen game win streak that started the season.
Pittsburgh played well. Texas is living up to expectations without
Jacob de Gram for a majority of the season. There's
so much going on. The Angels actually actually may be
for real.

Speaker 2 (02:14:03):
And they made two moves yes right, they make a
trade with the Mets, and then yesterday, in addition to
clubbing the Rockies, they say, hey, we'll take Mike Mustachus
as well.

Speaker 3 (02:14:12):
And and here's another thing, And we touched on this
because we talked about the Yankees. We talked about the
problems that the Dodgers are having. Houston doesn't seem to
be the same Houston. But the teams that we thought
were invincible maybe aren't. Braves look to be pretty good.
But the Dodgers don't seem to be the same Dodgers
of old. A lot of names that you're used to

(02:14:33):
seeing they don't have mentioned Houston. You know, they don't
have Justin Verlander anymore. They've still got some some horses
that you're gonna have to have to deal with, but
there's it's not as much of a of a runaway either.
When you look at maybe Atlanta is the best team
in the National League. But in the American League, I

(02:14:54):
think that it's it's wide open with a bunch of teams,
and the ALE East, for as bad as the AL
Central A we're getting a race. And for as good
as the AL East is, all of those teams seem
to be in contention. So I guess the theme of
today is that baseball has been really, really good to
everyone except the Oakland A's, and they've even been a
part of the story.

Speaker 2 (02:15:12):
Well, they had that big wind streak and now you've
got the moving issues. We talked about it a little
bit earlier, the politics of it put aside. I mean,
there's so much else to it that flows through the
fan base. As much as they cry about, you know,
being jilted. They haven't hit two million in attendance but

(02:15:33):
once or twice in the last twenty years, So you know, again,
small city though right half a million large and we've
already seen a couple of exits. I want to close
with this. We did get a quick reaction from our
discussion of the fantasy football dilemma. Quote telling your wife
about your upcoming fantasy draft you need to attend is

(02:15:54):
like when Indiana Jones has the standoff with the guy
with the sword, going back to the original Raiders of
the Lost art and the guy with the sword does
all this fancy trickery just end up being shot. Oh
there you go. Baseball Biz twenty seven to eleven. I
like that that gem.

Speaker 3 (02:16:12):
Gary. Gary tweeted in that he wanted in on my league,
and I don't know if it's because he wants to
get away from his family for a night or if
he just thinks that the league sounds great.

Speaker 2 (02:16:22):
But the boy, he's expecting someone to get dropped when
they use these. This next week, Mike Carman, Dan Byer
with you. Thanks for hanging out with us here on
Fox Sports Sunday. Stephen Rich coming up next here

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