June 28, 2023 • 34 mins
Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental health podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. On today's episode, Best Selling Author, and Keynote Speaker Jon Gordon joins Jay to discuss his new book The One Truth. If you are looking for practical strategies to elevate your mind, unlock your power and live life to the fullest then this is the podcast for you.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast
helping you out of the gray and into the blue.
Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer, and today we are our very first
repeat guest, very first in the history of the Unbreakable podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Before we get into who he is.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
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learn that one in five adults in this country experience
mental illness last year, yet far too many failed to
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something about it. They understand that behavioral health is a
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and social needs in tandem. Carolm behavioral health raising the
quality of life through empathy and action. With that, I
want to bring in somebody who really has raised the
of my life, my mental health, my relationship help. My
friend John Gordon, you may know him from the Energy
Bust Power Positive Leaderships, just come out with a new
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book called The One Truth, which I have right here
and sitting next to Rosie's bedside as well. So look,
there's a lot of things I want to dive in
with you with this book and with some of the
other things that you're working on as well.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But first, just a big hello. How are we doing
doing great?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Jay? And thanks for making me the repeate guest, the
first one you've ever had. That that means a lot,
that is that is awesome, what a great honor. And
I got to tell you, Jay, people love your podcast.
People listen to me on it. I had so many
comments from people who do listen to your podcast, and
even people who may not have followed you for a
long time, they're following you now. They're like, Jay's doing
amazing work with mental health. Like you're getting noticed beyond
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the world of sports, just with people who care about
mental health. They're listening to this podcast and it's a
game changer for their lives.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I appreciate them, and I think, you know, we were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It differently than most right, Like I certainly have a
different voice on it than everybody else. I'm coming from
the person who's going through it then, who's messed up,
who's good with his messed upness and on a journey
to get better, to live in the blue and to
beat that grave back, which I think we're not used to.
Usually when we go to someone it's for help, it's
it's an expert who can help someone like me. So
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this is the first time I think we've had a
voice like mine. We could describe it and give it
words now, so we could all have the conversation better,
so we could understand teachers like you that much better.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
And I think as people are listening to you that
going oh, if Jay's suffered from this, I mean, Jay's
godless fame, all this success, right, I watch him all
the time on TV, and if he's going through it, God,
you know it's normal, Like it's something that you know.
I'm not crazy for going through this. There's nothing wrong
with me. I'm not broken. I'm just going through a
tough time. So they're able to relate to you and
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connect with you, and then they're able to see within
themselves that there's a possibility for them to heal too,
because they about your healing journey, how you've been healing,
how you've been growing. Which I think you're a huge
lamp post and a light post with so many people
that lights up what is possible for them.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
By the way.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I am crazy, definitely crazy, but there's nothing wrong with me.
You're which is a different way for me to think
of myself. I always thought of myself was that man,
there's so many things wrong with me, and just beat
up myself all the time. And I get caught in that.
You know that, Hamster real if you will, One Truth
is your twenty eighth book.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It will be my twenty eighth book when it releases
on June twenty seventh.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Okay, so before we get in that, I want to
go back because we didn't hit this last time, and
I asked this to you and for people out there.
John speaks to Sports Team after Sports Team. I'm met
through Chip Kelly. And not only did I meet through
Chip Kelly, Randy Cotuur's at my house and Chip said,
I want to introduce you a friend of mine and
John Gordon, And all of a sudden, Randy Cotour went
John Gordon the energy bus, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Like you know there was that same night you went,
We're at my house.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
John Schneider called after a loss. I said, here I
have somebody who could pump you up a little bit more.
John Gordon.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
He's like John Gordon the coffee mean John Gordon like.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He was pretty cool to see what people's reaction is
towards you. But I dove into how you got your
start in that first night. I don't think people know this.
They know you as the positivity guy and the guy
who's building up businesses and build businesses, bring in to
help fledgling businesses.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But how did you get your start and.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Say I'm going to go write my first book because
you had a completely different career path.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, I was really miserable. Negative wife gave me the
ultimatum I change or whereover. I was dealing with depression,
a lot of anxiety, that constant pit in your stomach,
that angst that you have, And when she threatened to
leave me, I remember saying, what am I born to do?
Why am I here? And writing and speaking? Came to me.
I'm okay, I'm going to write and speak. I'm gonna
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start doing this work. I don't know why, I don't
know how. It literally just came to me, and I
knew at that moment that I was going to go
do this work, start writing and speaking somehow someway. I
didn't even know what I was going to write about Jay,
but I knew that I wanted to be more positive,
so I started to research ways I could be more positive.
And this is during the emerging field of positive psychology.
So here's the guy wanted to be more positive and
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you were working?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Where were you working? Where it's time?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Well, at the time, I had just literally gotten laid
off from a dot com that I was working for,
so I was gonna make my fortune. I had one
hundred thousand shares of this company and the dot com crashed.
And before that, I was in the restaurant business in Atlanta.
I owned a bunch of bars and restaurants in Buckhead.
So at twenty four, I opened up my first bar
in Buckhead. I was involved in a Phoenix organization. We
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volunteered and raised money for youth focused charities. Actually started it,
ran for city council, walked door to door to seven
thousand houses. Lost the election, but became close to winning.
Thought my life was over, went to law school, quit
after a year and a half because they said this
is not for me. And then I went to go
work for that dot com thinking I'm gonna make my fortune.
Still had the restaurants while we're for this dot com.
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But then sold back to my partners the restaurants in
the bar, and then basically moved to Jacksonville, Florida from
there because my wife wanted to live near the water,
so we looked at Tampa, Jacksonville, San Diego. We moved
to Jacksonville because it was only five hours away from
from Atlanta, and basically we had all these friends in Atlanta,
so we moved down there. I have this job and
then next thing you know, the company crashes and so
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lose my job, don't know how many to pay the bills,
just bought a home. Scariest time in my life, and
Jay I was crumbling, like I was literally in a
fetal position. I was crumbling from the inside out, like
how am I going to support my family? How will
I support these little kids. I'm thirty one years old
when this happens and everything is just falling apart. And
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that began my journey of trying to lift myself back up,
become more positive. I want to be more mentally tough,
mentally stronger. I wanted to handle this in a better way.
Catherine almost leaving me was that that ultimatum that impetus
to say, Okay, I've got to change, and I've got
to get better and I've got to figure this out.
And that's started the walks of gratitude every day. I
think we talked about this last time, is practicing gratitude
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and saying what I was thankful for and doing that
every single day, day in and day out. I'm convinced
that began this journey of enhance mental health, more positivity,
and to the point where now I rarely go towards
the gray, as you would call it. I rarely grow
towards the negative and the One Truth the new book. Literally,
when I'm writing this book, I'm going, you know what,
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that's why that stuff worked. I'm able to explain it
in The One Truth and explain why that stuff worked
and what I was doing. I was tuning into the
positive every day instead of tuning my brain into the
negative every day, and that that really is where the
healing started to take place. And then next thing, you know,
I start writing about this. How do I get my story?
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I literally started a weekly positive Tip two thousand and two.
I'm setting out a weekly positive tip every single day.
Five subscribers. Initially my mother, a brother, you know, best
friend from college, you know, your buddies. They weren't even
reading it, but I'm setting it out. But eventually people
started to share it and it started to grow, and
then I had I had like a thousand, then two
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thousand and then five thousand. This was back in two
thousand and two. No one was doing email newsletters. Then
it was one of the first of its kind. Companies
started to actually get it from their employees. Next to
you and I say, I get invited to speak, then
I get another speaking engagagement, then I get another one.
Then I got on the Today Show, did a week
series called Get Energized Today. All the way back in
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probably two thousand and four, two thousand and five that
I got on the Today Show for that four week
series and that started you. No, No, I had not
the Energy Bus had not come out yet, but I
had gotten on the Today Show. But after that, after
I get on Today Show, Everyone's say like, oh man,
it was awesome, your career is going to take off.
It was an energy makeover. I was coaching these four
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people enhancing their energy and their optimism for their work
and their career, their life. And it went really well.
But then after that everything just like sort of dried up.
And I'm like, what is going on? I just had
this great appearance. They said my career was going to
take off, and it didn't. I was thinking at that point, Okay,
what am I going to do? Get another job, figure
something out. And while I'm walking one day and really struggling,
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the Energy Bus came to me and I wrote that
book in three and a half weeks of pure inspiration.
And then that book was rejected by thirty publishers.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Eventually got already publishers. Yeah, don't let that gout thrown away,
brother thirty. Everybody after listen. The Energy Buss, his most
prolific book was rejected by thirty publishers, has since sold
over four million copies.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Right, yeah, thank you, four million copies worldwide, worldwide.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
By over thirty publishers. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
And so that book then all of a sudden gets
published eventually by John Wallly and Sons. After a lot
of time of really thinking it's not going to happen.
Your dream is not going to happen, a lot of fear,
what am I going to do? A lot of uncertainty,
wrestling with those negative thoughts and the anxiety and the worry. Again,
I've gotten better. At that time, I'm working on myself.
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I'm taking these walks of gratitude and I'm doing a
lot of self talk during that time. Just keep going,
keep making a difference, keep trusting. Somehow, some way it's
gonna work out. Kept on praying, believing, trusting, meditating, all
of it, you name it. And eventually I'll never forget
getting the call from John Wiley that they wanted to
do the book. And even then, though Jay it comes out,
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no bookstores carry the book, not one bookstore. It wasn't
like a Jay Glazer book where everyone wants to carry it. Like,
no one wanted to carry this book. And I went
on a twenty eight city tour to promote the book
and five people one city, ten people another, twenty another.
We have one hundred people in Des Moines, Iowa. They
thought Jeff Gordon was coming. True story. True story. I
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got home, didn't know what the future held, but I knew, okay,
I got to live this mission vision every day. And
what happened was Jack del Real got a hold of
that book from Mike Smith. It was given to them
by Mike Ryan, the trainer at the time Aguars, who
was the trainer for the giants when you were probably
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Covering them.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, it all fits did I didn't even know each other.
Mike gave him the book. Jack reads it and Mike's
bean to speak to the jaguars, and after that then
the book just sort of took off. After that, like
that was like a defining moment in that way, companies
started reading at schools and ever since I've been doing
all these talks and all these engagements with companies organizations
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based on the books.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Wait wait, wait, you shipped over one part though. It
started selling, but not here right right.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It was a huge hit in South Korea, not North Korea,
but South.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Luckily not North Korea. Korea. Good.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, my publisher, My publisher has called me the David
Hasselhoff of South Korea because I was like huge in
South Korea, but but not in the United States. Here,
I'm like, yeah, literally top five best seller in South Korea.
Think about that. But Bookstorts went and carry it initially
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So now because they it was so big in South Korea,
is that what got Bookstorts carried here?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
No? Oh no, it was the tour. It was going
around and then it was speaking to some companies, organizations,
and then eventually bookstores started to carry it. But one
thing I did was a really good technique is I
would actually do these engagements and bring Barnes and Noble
in for instance, to come to the event to sell
books at the event and get book sales from it,
and then they would actually go back and then bring
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the books within the store and that started to help.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Incredible, incredible. That's why I want people here. Every one
of us have had success. It doesn't happen overnight. We
get knocked down and knocked down and knockdown and knocked down,
and eventually one good thing happens. Then you got knocked
down again, and then something else happens, and then there's silence,
and then you get knocked down twenty more times.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And that's how you get to where you need to go.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But you have to understand too. Look look how proudy
John is telling the story. The pot of gold at
the end of the rainbow is not all the sales
at the end.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It's this journey that you go on without a test.
There's no triumph without struggle, there's no reward and there's
no victory. So if everything was easy, we wouldn't appreciate
the journey. The fact that it was hard makes everything worthwhile.
And even with mental health, even with my attitude, now
knowing what I was like, knowing what I had to
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go through, knowing the angst I had, makes me appreciate
every day when I'm feeling more positive, when I do
feel hopeful, when I do feel optimistic. Now do I
still wake up at times and I'll have one of
those bad days or bad mornings, Yes, but they are
more far and few between. So now it's like it happens,
But now I'm recognizing what's going on, and it makes
you appreciate the good days and also let you know
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it's a bad day, but this too shall pass. Just
keep moving forward. Don't jump off the roller coaster. You're
on this roller coaster life. Don't jump off. We often
want to escape more at the bottom of the roller
coaster because we think we're going to crash. Now, just
keep riding that roller coaster and you'll ride it right
back up to a better future. So I now know that,
and it makes you again appreciate what you had to
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go through along the way.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I want to get into one truth here, because we
shot down for dinner the night myself and and John
here and his wife Catherine, and my fiance Rosie and
her identical twin, Renee, which was like a heck of
a dinner the other night, quite a kick out of right,
you get to see the twins. But you shot down again.
I've known you not for a while. You shot down.
You're like, this is the book, this is the book.
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Everything leads to this this. I'm so excited for this one.
It's the easiest book I've written because everything just kind
of flowed out of me.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Jump in and explain exactly why you're so excited about
this one.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, first I have to say, you know, having dinner
with you all was just was just awesome. And Rosie
and Renee, they're just they're just incredible, like such such
great energy, like just full of life, so happy, so positive. Yeah,
my wife and I just just loved them, like they're
just so great to be around and so much fun.
And I know, I know, uh, you know, I know
much how much you love them.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So they're a freaking walk in reality show. Trust me,
folks there are hilarious.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
They do need to have their own reality show and
have your own Jay, no doubt yeah, you need to
have your own, but the one truth I am. Yeah,
I'm so passionate and excited about this message because one
I've been sharing this message for a year now and
I've shared it with a lot of our mutual friends.
You've shared it with different coaches and players, and it
really is transformative. When they hear the message and they
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get it, it makes so much sense to them and
they're like, man, I'm saying things that we know intuitively,
but we don't have words too, when we haven't put
a framework around. And this helps people understand how thoughts work.
It helps them understand how to get to a higher
state of mind instead of being in a lower state
of mind. It helps them realize that there's a lot
of clutter of thought that creates that lower state of mind.
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And we have clarity and not a lot of clutter.
We have a lot of focus, we have a lot
of positivity, we have a higher state of mind. And ultimately,
the book comes down to oneness and separateness. When you
realize that everything comes down to that, it gives you
a new lens in which how you see the world
like oneness and separatists. Do I feel separate? Do I
feel disconnected, isolated, alone, And when you feel that way,
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you feel powerless and you feel fearful. When you feel oneness,
you feel connect you feel love, you feel power, you
feel joy, you feel peace, And everything comes down to that.
And the root for the Greek word for anxious means
to separate and divide, And so when you feel anxious,
you actually feel separate, you feel divided. When you feel one,
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you don't feel like that. When you feel one, you
feel power, you feel connected, you feel hopeful. Think about teams,
you know, teams jay. Teams that are disconnected and divided
are very weak. Teams. Teams that are connected and united
are powerful. It's the same way with us, and that
really explains in many ways our mental health, our happiness,
our wholeness, and how well we're actually able to navigate
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the journey of life and the challenges of life. And
my goal is to help people get back to oneness
instead of feeling so separate, because as you move from
oneness to separateness, what happens is you actually move from
positive to negative. Every mental health issue, every mental health disorder,
reports feelings of aloneness, isolation, and disconnection. Think about it.
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They feel separate. We never say, oh, someone has a
mental health probably they have too many positive thoughts. Why
do they all move towards negative thoughts as we have
mental health issues. What's the correlation between the brain and
the thoughts that we're thinking? And this is what I
explained in the book In some ways it's there's a
lot of layers to the book. But part of the
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book is explaining that I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Use an actor.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And I know Look and John I have both big
faith gods. Because this is not a book we're're pushing
religion on you or pushing all right, this could be
used whether they have faith or not. Right, so you
but you're an acrot. On the other day, you're trying
to explain to us.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, tune, oh ho, there's tune and there's hold. Tune
is really cool. Tune is is trust and truth because
you've got to tune your brain into a positive frequency.
So here's the key. Your brain is an antenna and
every day you are either tuning into a negative frequency
or a positive frequency. That's why everything comes down to
positive and negative, like oh, so and so is positive
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or so and So's negative. It comes down to those
two major frequencies and your brain is either going to
tune into that negative or that positive. And the more
we tune into negative thoughts, what happens is we start
to get more negative thoughts. It's like we're tuning that
dial and that station becomes much more clear as we're
listening to it and we hear it more loudly. So
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the key is, how do we tune into more positive
thoughts to uplift ourselves rather than the negative thoughts that
actually wring us down. And if you look at negative thoughts,
they will create doubt, they will create discouragement. They will
actually distort things and take truth and distort it with lives.
So you have all these negative thoughts like I'm not enough,
the future is hopeless. It will make you believe all
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these things that are bad instead of what is possible.
You'll look at the worst case scenario and you'll be
pessimistic instead of optimistic. That's what negative thoughts do. They
create all this clutter in your mind. You have all
these thoughts and they start to race, and that creates
more distractions and then then that anxiety and then ultimately,
as I said earlier, division, so you actually feel divide.
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You feel separate. What divides, fear divides, and so are
you going to tune into the thoughts that make you
fearful and divide you and weaken you, or you're going
to tune into the positive thoughts that uplift you, encourage you,
and make you feel powerful. So we've got to tune
into the positive. How do we do that? Trust and truth?
Trust and truth, trust instead of doubt, speak truth to
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the lies. You unite with love. Love cast out fear.
So anytime you focus on love, the minute you do,
fear will dissipate. Fear has no power when love is present,
so bring love to it. And this is my greatest
performance tool for athletes. The minute you focus on loving
the competition, loving the moment, loving playing, loving the battle
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doesn't mean you're not a warrior. You know you're a
warrior loving the battle. The minute you focus on that,
fear will dissipate. Because if you're worried about the outcome
and fearful of the outcome, you're not going to perform
very well. But if you're saying, you know what, I'm
loving this moment, let's go, let's see what you got.
Bring it on. I'm gonna love it. Let's see what
I can do here in this moment. I'm not gonna
worry about the outcome. I'm just gonna love competing right here,
right now. The minute you do that, you'll move to
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a higher state of mind, You'll move to more oneness. Why.
Love creates connection. Connection creates clarity, Clarity creates confidence, and
confidence creates courage. So that's key. Unite with love, that's
the you. Then there's end neutralized and negativity essential. To
neutralize the negativity, negative thoughts come in. No, I'm not
gonna listen to it. I'm not gonna listen to the lies.
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You neutralize it, and then you elevate. You elevate your thinking,
and you elevate it with optimism, with hope, with belief,
with gratitude. When we appreciate, you elevate. You elevate your mood,
your performance, the people around you. And also I'm a
big fan of focusing on your success of the day.
Like every night you go to bed, you write down, Hey,
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what's the one great thing that happened today, not all
the things that went wrong, all the things that you
did that went right. And every day you go to
bed feeling like a success. Guess what happens. You wake
up ready to take on the day, feeling like a
success and creating more successes. And I know, Jay, you've
done some of these on your journey. I know you're
writing about these kind of things, like they really do
work and they're so powerful. But why they tune your mic? Okay,
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everyone talks about these things, but why do they work?
And the one truth explains why because it elevates the
state of your mind and tunes your antenna into a
higher frequency. And the more you do that, you start
to move more wholeness and oneness instead of separateness.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I love that, man, I now practice that at night,
doing that every night, going to bed, kind of have
a thrown a party in my heart and wake up
with a gratitude list.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Once we do that, we start our day in gratitude.
It's a much better way to start your day. But look,
my problem had always been to give too much thought
to the negativity of Like, man, I'm almost a victim, Like.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
How do I get it out of my head? So
listen to this really helps me.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, And I had to teenager. I had a teenager
sixteen years old, suicidal and he was in the er.
Two nights before I went to go meet with him,
I knew his mom, and I said, let me talk
to him. He didn't want to talk to me. I said,
let me talk to him. I can help. So I
go to meet with him and now I'm talking to him.
We're having a great conversation. And I said, your negative
thoughts come from you, and he said, of course, they're
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in my head. Here's my next question. If you believe
your negative thoughts come from you, who would ever choose
to have a negative thought? He's like, no, I wouldn't
choose a negative thought. I said, exactly, would you ever
choose a thought that says you don't have it today?
The future is hopeless, You're not going to make it.
The health diagnosis is not going to improve, the relationship
is not going to get better. You're not smart enough,
pretty enough, good looking enough, successful enough. Would you ever
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choose any of those thoughts? No, they're always coming in,
like when you're dreaming having a nightmare. Are you choosing
those thoughts? No? So where do they come from? Consciousness?
Spiritual place right, the internet, cloud of consciousness. The brain
is the hardware, It's where the activation happens. But these
thoughts are coming in from a spirit internet cloud of software,
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and we're always downloading these thoughts to our brain. The
brain is where the activation happens. So when the thought
comes in, it's often a negative thought that will cause
you to feel doubtful, discouraged, deceived, distracted, cluttered, fearful, and
you name it, all the things that bring you down.
For all, these thoughts come in all the time. So
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I was sharing that with the young man and he understood,
and I said, you have a lot of thoughts in
your head. He said, oh, so many. He said. They
bombarred me all the time. I said, do they accuse
you and attack you? He said yes. It makes me
want to give up. I have tears as I'm thinking
about the conversation we had. I let him know, nothing's
wrong with you, nothing is broken. You're just having these
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negative thoughts that are lowering your state of mind and
causing you to feel separate. But guess what, your whole
and there's nothing wrong. You just have to remember these
negative thoughts are not coming from you. Stop beating yourself up.
He did. He stopped feeling shame and guilt. Wow, But
the thoughts that were in his head that were not
from him. See, the thought comes in, he believed it.
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He felt shame and guilt and then beat himself up.
So it got worse and worse and worse, and he
was spiraling more and more downward. Once he understood this,
everything changed. The next day, his parents like, what did
you do? I just share with him the truth so
we can understand how thoughts work. And that's what I knew.
I need to write this book asapaig.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I got to teach this to everyone it can, and
I've since taught it to several other teenagers who were
depressed and down turned them around immediately too. Just reached
out to this young man. It's been over a year now,
how you doing, high state of mind? Mister Gordon doing great, great,
best feeling in the world feeling. That's much work.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I love that, Absolutely love that.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Absolutely pres And yeah, and like John is saying, too,
all of us have heinous thoughts that go across our
minds and we tend to think, man, this must make
me a really bad person.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I'm the only one having these thoughts.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
No, we all have them. We all have them. It's
just obviously are you. I was to not act on
them and you don't act on them. You're a good
person if you act on them. And you may do
some stuff that gets you in the other category.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, but we all have them.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, And you don't want to believe the lies that
they're telling you, right, and try to get you to
act on right. Jay. So their thoughts, these thoughts are
always coming in and they will lead to your destruction
if you believe them, if you listen to them and
you let them dictate you. But here's the thing, Like,
you have the power to take control of your thoughts,
take every thought captive, renew your mind, tune in every
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day to the positive. It's hard at first because you've
been programmed for a long time towards the negative. So
you got to change that dial and keep tuning in
every single day. And this is what I did. I
took that walk of gratitude every day years ago, over
eighteen years ago. Now not knowing what I was doing,
I look back, That's what I was doing, practicing gratitude
every day, appreciating, and slowly but surely I start to
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tue my mind more towards the positive, more positive, less
negative thoughts. And so instead of that that that highway
to negativity or that highway to hell. We want to
keep that highway going to the positive and we want
dirt roads to negativity.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Give me the whole acronym I.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Love whole because hole was a big part of this book.
And that's the goal. Like the reason why we struggle
so much is we all have a wound within us.
We have a hole in our soul h O l A.
And when you have that hole in your soul, it's
a sign letting you know that you need to be healed.
And we all have wounds of our past. We all
have things that happen to us. We all have trauma
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in some way that that that causes this hole. And
we go through life trying to fill that hole with
all these things that will will make us feel good,
but it always leaves us feeling more and more empty.
And there's only one thing that we're really seeking is
to fill the whole w h oil with wholeness, with love,
with k.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
L.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Right, we want to be whola. And what you said,
if you don't have the w then you're gonna be
going through life with the hila. And again, this is
not a religion, this is spiritual and I would say
when you ask people, and all studies and research shows
most people believe in a higher power. Ninety nine percent
of people I believe believe in some sort of higher power. Well,
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I call that higher power God, and so holds an acronym.
Where the W is where you begin to walk with God.
And God is a god of love, and this God
of love wants to heal you. That's the h So
you're walking with God. The goal is to heal the
wound that you have and to heal the hole in
your soul. So what so you could become one, so
you don't feel separate. So you become one, and that's
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the goal. God wants you to experience oneness, and that's
the oh is oneness. You walk with God, you heal
and as you're healing, that separation gets smaller and smaller,
and you start to experience this oneness that you're meant
to go through life with. You're meant to be connected
with your creator. You're not meant to be separate from it.
You're not meant to be separate from anybody or anything.
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You're meant to be one and connected, and that's where
you find wholeness and healing. Research shows we heal in
a loving relationship. Think about that. So as you heal
in a loving relationship, you become more whole. So we
w walk with God. H we heal. Oh, we experience oneness.
When you're experiencing oneness, you know what flows from you? Love?
That's the l Love is now flowing from you because
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you are one. So there's no separation, where fears coming in,
where anxiety is coming in, where hates coming in. Now,
in oneness, there's only love because God is a God
of love. And in that love, that then e elevates
your mind, elevates your soul, It renews you, it heals you.
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And that's the power of what we're talking about here.
Finding that oneness, that wholeness, that connection will make you
more whole and then lead to more power and lead
to you living this purpose that you have in this world.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I've always viewed God as like my best friend parent.
What do you want from a best friend parent? Somebody
will just listen and be there and love you. Not
I don't ask God for this job to make get
me money or make sure I get this happen to
me or that happened to me.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I'd t how you end up scapegoating.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
God, you know, And man, I wouldn't want to be
around someone that's constantly asked me for stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
But that's it. I just asked, said, listen, my choice
to have faith.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I never felt alone, and all the years it's been
a very lonely existence with the depressions I've had, but
I've chosen my choice to believe that I have this loving,
best friend type parent who's always with me, and I'm
always say I'll I'll do the work, just pick me up,
brush me off, and let's keep walking this walk together.
So I love the lesson that you get. But again,
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it doesn't hurt anyone else from me to have faith.
I'm not push your religion on you.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I understand where people get upset about that, but this,
just if I have faith makes me feel good, Why
would it bother somebody else. I never understood that. So
it helps you, it helps me. You haven't given a
shy give it a shot, Jenny.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Have you been doing this by yourself and you haven't
been feeling good and you're feeling worse and worse, and
you're feeling more and more disconnected, and you're feeling powerless.
That means in most cases, you're trying to do it alone.
So why not give the shot of a greater power,
a greater connection, a greater wholeness that actually uplifts you.
And here's the deal, Jade, say there's no God someone listening? Okay,
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there's no God. Is there still suffering? Okay? So there's
no God, there's still suffering? Who's responsible? There's still war,
there's still responsible for the suffer. Who's responsible for it?
Guess what? Because we are divided and we are separate.
That leads to the war, It leads to the fighting,
it leads to the separation. And so what God wants
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is he knows we're feeling separate, knows we're disconnected. He's
trying to big bring us back to this oneness and connection.
But we're actually believing the lie that it's him causing
the suffering. Now he's trying to bring healing wholeness. It's
a lie, and it's the forces of darkness that are
always trying to divide and separate us and bring us
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the other way.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I always tell people that when you try and blame
God for things, listen, God gave us ten commandments, right,
let's just look at those.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's really kind of eight, right, because a couple of
them are the same.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Lord shall have no Lord besondes me, don't you know,
pray false tihles, things like that. So it's like hate them,
you know, But they're like, don't kill anybody, don't steal,
don't slip your neighbor's wife, right, take a day off, right,
and imagine how great the world will be if we
follow these eight ten simple rules. That's it, ten simple rules.
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The world will be filled with a lot less war
and famine and anger, anger and anguish. But we can't
do it no matter what you know, what religion you are,
wherever you go, the most of most of the people
in that congregation just aren't following all ten.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So it's not God's fault. It's not us that's doing that.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Think about this, the standards that God has for humanitative
that he's had to say, don't tell, right, don't steal, yeah,
don't steal, don't sleep with your neighbor's wife. Like God
clearly understands the humanity right and understands what's in our
hearts at times when there can be this this nature
to actually do things that we shouldn't do. And that's
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what I love about you, Jay. You have such a
great heart. You have such a big heart. You care
about people, and that's what that's what we're meant to do.
We're meant to love others, care about others, serve others,
impact others. And here's the cool thing. The more you
feel one, you want to go help the one. The
more you feel separate, you want to focus on yourself
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because you want to protect yourself, and you don't care
about anyone else because you don't feel connected to them.
But the more you feel connected to God and yourself
and others, there's this oneness that makes you want to
go serve others, help others, and love others. So guess
what you want to be a better person, Try to
experience more oneness.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Man, I love it so much And I love you brother,
always love having you all my friend. Yeah, tell everybe
the whole name of.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
The book, it's called The One Truth. You can get
the book at getwetruth dot com Get One Truth. I
hope you read it. I hope you understand separateness oneness.
I guarantee my promise is you read this book. I've
been asked, what's the promise. John the promise is you
read this book, You're not going to go through life
knowing that or believing that something's wrong with you. You're going
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to see what's happening. We live in a world where
so many feel cluttered, anxious, worried, chronically stressed all the time,
and we're not meant to go through life that way.
It's almost become normalized because so many people are dealing
with mental health issues right now. It's okay to feel
that way, and we're all going to go through it
at different times of our lives. But it's not meant
for us to go through life that way. What we
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are meant for is purpose and oneness and wholeness and
to feel love and connection and power and joy and peace.
And I truly believe as you read this book, you're
going to recognize that, and you're going to start to
tap into that, and you're going to move from separateness
to oneness, which is going to give you more power
in this world. And that's my goal as you read it, Man, I.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Am proud to be connected to you the one truth.
Elevate your mind, unlock your power, heal your soul.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
By my good friend John Gordon. Please go out and
get it.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
John.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I always say this about my podcast guest, but man,
I'm always so proud.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Of walk this walk with you.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
May walk together, brother, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You know that w you walk, you walk, but you
also walk with your friends and having friends along the
way and great friends like you. That's what makes life
so great. And you're one of my great friends.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I appreciate your brother, Love you, John Gordon. Pick it up.
The One Truth
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast
helping you out of the gray and into the blue.
Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer, and today we are our very first
repeat guest, very first in the history of the Unbreakable podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Before we get into who he is.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
If you're like many people, you may be surprised to
learn that one in five adults in this country experience
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and social needs in tandem. Carolm behavioral health raising the
quality of life through empathy and action. With that, I
want to bring in somebody who really has raised the
of my life, my mental health, my relationship help. My
friend John Gordon, you may know him from the Energy
Bust Power Positive Leaderships, just come out with a new
(01:10):
book called The One Truth, which I have right here
and sitting next to Rosie's bedside as well. So look,
there's a lot of things I want to dive in
with you with this book and with some of the
other things that you're working on as well.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But first, just a big hello. How are we doing
doing great?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Jay? And thanks for making me the repeate guest, the
first one you've ever had. That that means a lot,
that is that is awesome, what a great honor. And
I got to tell you, Jay, people love your podcast.
People listen to me on it. I had so many
comments from people who do listen to your podcast, and
even people who may not have followed you for a
long time, they're following you now. They're like, Jay's doing
amazing work with mental health. Like you're getting noticed beyond
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the world of sports, just with people who care about
mental health. They're listening to this podcast and it's a
game changer for their lives.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I appreciate them, and I think, you know, we were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It differently than most right, Like I certainly have a
different voice on it than everybody else. I'm coming from
the person who's going through it then, who's messed up,
who's good with his messed upness and on a journey
to get better, to live in the blue and to
beat that grave back, which I think we're not used to.
Usually when we go to someone it's for help, it's
it's an expert who can help someone like me. So
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this is the first time I think we've had a
voice like mine. We could describe it and give it
words now, so we could all have the conversation better,
so we could understand teachers like you that much better.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
And I think as people are listening to you that
going oh, if Jay's suffered from this, I mean, Jay's
godless fame, all this success, right, I watch him all
the time on TV, and if he's going through it, God,
you know it's normal, Like it's something that you know.
I'm not crazy for going through this. There's nothing wrong
with me. I'm not broken. I'm just going through a
tough time. So they're able to relate to you and
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connect with you, and then they're able to see within
themselves that there's a possibility for them to heal too,
because they about your healing journey, how you've been healing,
how you've been growing. Which I think you're a huge
lamp post and a light post with so many people
that lights up what is possible for them.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
By the way.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I am crazy, definitely crazy, but there's nothing wrong with me.
You're which is a different way for me to think
of myself. I always thought of myself was that man,
there's so many things wrong with me, and just beat
up myself all the time. And I get caught in that.
You know that, Hamster real if you will, One Truth
is your twenty eighth book.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It will be my twenty eighth book when it releases
on June twenty seventh.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Okay, so before we get in that, I want to
go back because we didn't hit this last time, and
I asked this to you and for people out there.
John speaks to Sports Team after Sports Team. I'm met
through Chip Kelly. And not only did I meet through
Chip Kelly, Randy Cotuur's at my house and Chip said,
I want to introduce you a friend of mine and
John Gordon, And all of a sudden, Randy Cotour went
John Gordon the energy bus, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Like you know there was that same night you went,
We're at my house.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
John Schneider called after a loss. I said, here I
have somebody who could pump you up a little bit more.
John Gordon.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
He's like John Gordon the coffee mean John Gordon like.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He was pretty cool to see what people's reaction is
towards you. But I dove into how you got your
start in that first night. I don't think people know this.
They know you as the positivity guy and the guy
who's building up businesses and build businesses, bring in to
help fledgling businesses.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But how did you get your start and.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Say I'm going to go write my first book because
you had a completely different career path.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, I was really miserable. Negative wife gave me the
ultimatum I change or whereover. I was dealing with depression,
a lot of anxiety, that constant pit in your stomach,
that angst that you have, And when she threatened to
leave me, I remember saying, what am I born to do?
Why am I here? And writing and speaking? Came to me.
I'm okay, I'm going to write and speak. I'm gonna
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start doing this work. I don't know why, I don't
know how. It literally just came to me, and I
knew at that moment that I was going to go
do this work, start writing and speaking somehow someway. I
didn't even know what I was going to write about Jay,
but I knew that I wanted to be more positive,
so I started to research ways I could be more positive.
And this is during the emerging field of positive psychology.
So here's the guy wanted to be more positive and
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you were working?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Where were you working? Where it's time?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Well, at the time, I had just literally gotten laid
off from a dot com that I was working for,
so I was gonna make my fortune. I had one
hundred thousand shares of this company and the dot com crashed.
And before that, I was in the restaurant business in Atlanta.
I owned a bunch of bars and restaurants in Buckhead.
So at twenty four, I opened up my first bar
in Buckhead. I was involved in a Phoenix organization. We
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volunteered and raised money for youth focused charities. Actually started it,
ran for city council, walked door to door to seven
thousand houses. Lost the election, but became close to winning.
Thought my life was over, went to law school, quit
after a year and a half because they said this
is not for me. And then I went to go
work for that dot com thinking I'm gonna make my fortune.
Still had the restaurants while we're for this dot com.
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But then sold back to my partners the restaurants in
the bar, and then basically moved to Jacksonville, Florida from
there because my wife wanted to live near the water,
so we looked at Tampa, Jacksonville, San Diego. We moved
to Jacksonville because it was only five hours away from
from Atlanta, and basically we had all these friends in Atlanta,
so we moved down there. I have this job and
then next thing you know, the company crashes and so
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lose my job, don't know how many to pay the bills,
just bought a home. Scariest time in my life, and
Jay I was crumbling, like I was literally in a
fetal position. I was crumbling from the inside out, like
how am I going to support my family? How will
I support these little kids. I'm thirty one years old
when this happens and everything is just falling apart. And
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that began my journey of trying to lift myself back up,
become more positive. I want to be more mentally tough,
mentally stronger. I wanted to handle this in a better way.
Catherine almost leaving me was that that ultimatum that impetus
to say, Okay, I've got to change, and I've got
to get better and I've got to figure this out.
And that's started the walks of gratitude every day. I
think we talked about this last time, is practicing gratitude
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and saying what I was thankful for and doing that
every single day, day in and day out. I'm convinced
that began this journey of enhance mental health, more positivity,
and to the point where now I rarely go towards
the gray, as you would call it. I rarely grow
towards the negative and the One Truth the new book. Literally,
when I'm writing this book, I'm going, you know what,
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that's why that stuff worked. I'm able to explain it
in The One Truth and explain why that stuff worked
and what I was doing. I was tuning into the
positive every day instead of tuning my brain into the
negative every day, and that that really is where the
healing started to take place. And then next thing, you know,
I start writing about this. How do I get my story?
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I literally started a weekly positive Tip two thousand and two.
I'm setting out a weekly positive tip every single day.
Five subscribers. Initially my mother, a brother, you know, best
friend from college, you know, your buddies. They weren't even
reading it, but I'm setting it out. But eventually people
started to share it and it started to grow, and
then I had I had like a thousand, then two
(08:06):
thousand and then five thousand. This was back in two
thousand and two. No one was doing email newsletters. Then
it was one of the first of its kind. Companies
started to actually get it from their employees. Next to
you and I say, I get invited to speak, then
I get another speaking engagagement, then I get another one.
Then I got on the Today Show, did a week
series called Get Energized Today. All the way back in
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probably two thousand and four, two thousand and five that
I got on the Today Show for that four week
series and that started you. No, No, I had not
the Energy Bus had not come out yet, but I
had gotten on the Today Show. But after that, after
I get on Today Show, Everyone's say like, oh man,
it was awesome, your career is going to take off.
It was an energy makeover. I was coaching these four
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people enhancing their energy and their optimism for their work
and their career, their life. And it went really well.
But then after that everything just like sort of dried up.
And I'm like, what is going on? I just had
this great appearance. They said my career was going to
take off, and it didn't. I was thinking at that point, Okay,
what am I going to do? Get another job, figure
something out. And while I'm walking one day and really struggling,
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the Energy Bus came to me and I wrote that
book in three and a half weeks of pure inspiration.
And then that book was rejected by thirty publishers.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Eventually got already publishers. Yeah, don't let that gout thrown away,
brother thirty. Everybody after listen. The Energy Buss, his most
prolific book was rejected by thirty publishers, has since sold
over four million copies.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Right, yeah, thank you, four million copies worldwide, worldwide.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
By over thirty publishers. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
And so that book then all of a sudden gets
published eventually by John Wallly and Sons. After a lot
of time of really thinking it's not going to happen.
Your dream is not going to happen, a lot of fear,
what am I going to do? A lot of uncertainty,
wrestling with those negative thoughts and the anxiety and the worry. Again,
I've gotten better. At that time, I'm working on myself.
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I'm taking these walks of gratitude and I'm doing a
lot of self talk during that time. Just keep going,
keep making a difference, keep trusting. Somehow, some way it's
gonna work out. Kept on praying, believing, trusting, meditating, all
of it, you name it. And eventually I'll never forget
getting the call from John Wiley that they wanted to
do the book. And even then, though Jay it comes out,
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no bookstores carry the book, not one bookstore. It wasn't
like a Jay Glazer book where everyone wants to carry it. Like,
no one wanted to carry this book. And I went
on a twenty eight city tour to promote the book
and five people one city, ten people another, twenty another.
We have one hundred people in Des Moines, Iowa. They
thought Jeff Gordon was coming. True story. True story. I
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got home, didn't know what the future held, but I knew, okay,
I got to live this mission vision every day. And
what happened was Jack del Real got a hold of
that book from Mike Smith. It was given to them
by Mike Ryan, the trainer at the time Aguars, who
was the trainer for the giants when you were probably
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Covering them.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, it all fits did I didn't even know each other.
Mike gave him the book. Jack reads it and Mike's
bean to speak to the jaguars, and after that then
the book just sort of took off. After that, like
that was like a defining moment in that way, companies
started reading at schools and ever since I've been doing
all these talks and all these engagements with companies organizations
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based on the books.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Wait wait, wait, you shipped over one part though. It
started selling, but not here right right.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It was a huge hit in South Korea, not North Korea,
but South.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Luckily not North Korea. Korea. Good.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, my publisher, My publisher has called me the David
Hasselhoff of South Korea because I was like huge in
South Korea, but but not in the United States. Here,
I'm like, yeah, literally top five best seller in South Korea.
Think about that. But Bookstorts went and carry it initially
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So now because they it was so big in South Korea,
is that what got Bookstorts carried here?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
No? Oh no, it was the tour. It was going
around and then it was speaking to some companies, organizations,
and then eventually bookstores started to carry it. But one
thing I did was a really good technique is I
would actually do these engagements and bring Barnes and Noble
in for instance, to come to the event to sell
books at the event and get book sales from it,
and then they would actually go back and then bring
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the books within the store and that started to help.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Incredible, incredible. That's why I want people here. Every one
of us have had success. It doesn't happen overnight. We
get knocked down and knocked down and knockdown and knocked down,
and eventually one good thing happens. Then you got knocked
down again, and then something else happens, and then there's silence,
and then you get knocked down twenty more times.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And that's how you get to where you need to go.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But you have to understand too. Look look how proudy
John is telling the story. The pot of gold at
the end of the rainbow is not all the sales
at the end.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It's this journey that you go on without a test.
There's no triumph without struggle, there's no reward and there's
no victory. So if everything was easy, we wouldn't appreciate
the journey. The fact that it was hard makes everything worthwhile.
And even with mental health, even with my attitude, now
knowing what I was like, knowing what I had to
(13:12):
go through, knowing the angst I had, makes me appreciate
every day when I'm feeling more positive, when I do
feel hopeful, when I do feel optimistic. Now do I
still wake up at times and I'll have one of
those bad days or bad mornings, Yes, but they are
more far and few between. So now it's like it happens,
But now I'm recognizing what's going on, and it makes
you appreciate the good days and also let you know
(13:34):
it's a bad day, but this too shall pass. Just
keep moving forward. Don't jump off the roller coaster. You're
on this roller coaster life. Don't jump off. We often
want to escape more at the bottom of the roller
coaster because we think we're going to crash. Now, just
keep riding that roller coaster and you'll ride it right
back up to a better future. So I now know that,
and it makes you again appreciate what you had to
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go through along the way.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I want to get into one truth here, because we
shot down for dinner the night myself and and John
here and his wife Catherine, and my fiance Rosie and
her identical twin, Renee, which was like a heck of
a dinner the other night, quite a kick out of right,
you get to see the twins. But you shot down again.
I've known you not for a while. You shot down.
You're like, this is the book, this is the book.
(14:17):
Everything leads to this this. I'm so excited for this one.
It's the easiest book I've written because everything just kind
of flowed out of me.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Jump in and explain exactly why you're so excited about
this one.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, first I have to say, you know, having dinner
with you all was just was just awesome. And Rosie
and Renee, they're just they're just incredible, like such such
great energy, like just full of life, so happy, so positive. Yeah,
my wife and I just just loved them, like they're
just so great to be around and so much fun.
And I know, I know, uh, you know, I know
much how much you love them.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So they're a freaking walk in reality show. Trust me,
folks there are hilarious.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
They do need to have their own reality show and
have your own Jay, no doubt yeah, you need to
have your own, but the one truth I am. Yeah,
I'm so passionate and excited about this message because one
I've been sharing this message for a year now and
I've shared it with a lot of our mutual friends.
You've shared it with different coaches and players, and it
really is transformative. When they hear the message and they
(15:10):
get it, it makes so much sense to them and
they're like, man, I'm saying things that we know intuitively,
but we don't have words too, when we haven't put
a framework around. And this helps people understand how thoughts work.
It helps them understand how to get to a higher
state of mind instead of being in a lower state
of mind. It helps them realize that there's a lot
of clutter of thought that creates that lower state of mind.
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And we have clarity and not a lot of clutter.
We have a lot of focus, we have a lot
of positivity, we have a higher state of mind. And ultimately,
the book comes down to oneness and separateness. When you
realize that everything comes down to that, it gives you
a new lens in which how you see the world
like oneness and separatists. Do I feel separate? Do I
feel disconnected, isolated, alone, And when you feel that way,
(15:55):
you feel powerless and you feel fearful. When you feel oneness,
you feel connect you feel love, you feel power, you
feel joy, you feel peace, And everything comes down to that.
And the root for the Greek word for anxious means
to separate and divide, And so when you feel anxious,
you actually feel separate, you feel divided. When you feel one,
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you don't feel like that. When you feel one, you
feel power, you feel connected, you feel hopeful. Think about teams,
you know, teams jay. Teams that are disconnected and divided
are very weak. Teams. Teams that are connected and united
are powerful. It's the same way with us, and that
really explains in many ways our mental health, our happiness,
our wholeness, and how well we're actually able to navigate
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the journey of life and the challenges of life. And
my goal is to help people get back to oneness
instead of feeling so separate, because as you move from
oneness to separateness, what happens is you actually move from
positive to negative. Every mental health issue, every mental health disorder,
reports feelings of aloneness, isolation, and disconnection. Think about it.
(17:02):
They feel separate. We never say, oh, someone has a
mental health probably they have too many positive thoughts. Why
do they all move towards negative thoughts as we have
mental health issues. What's the correlation between the brain and
the thoughts that we're thinking? And this is what I
explained in the book In some ways it's there's a
lot of layers to the book. But part of the
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book is explaining that I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Use an actor.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And I know Look and John I have both big
faith gods. Because this is not a book we're're pushing
religion on you or pushing all right, this could be
used whether they have faith or not. Right, so you
but you're an acrot. On the other day, you're trying
to explain to us.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, tune, oh ho, there's tune and there's hold. Tune
is really cool. Tune is is trust and truth because
you've got to tune your brain into a positive frequency.
So here's the key. Your brain is an antenna and
every day you are either tuning into a negative frequency
or a positive frequency. That's why everything comes down to
positive and negative, like oh, so and so is positive
(17:58):
or so and So's negative. It comes down to those
two major frequencies and your brain is either going to
tune into that negative or that positive. And the more
we tune into negative thoughts, what happens is we start
to get more negative thoughts. It's like we're tuning that
dial and that station becomes much more clear as we're
listening to it and we hear it more loudly. So
(18:20):
the key is, how do we tune into more positive
thoughts to uplift ourselves rather than the negative thoughts that
actually wring us down. And if you look at negative thoughts,
they will create doubt, they will create discouragement. They will
actually distort things and take truth and distort it with lives.
So you have all these negative thoughts like I'm not enough,
the future is hopeless. It will make you believe all
(18:42):
these things that are bad instead of what is possible.
You'll look at the worst case scenario and you'll be
pessimistic instead of optimistic. That's what negative thoughts do. They
create all this clutter in your mind. You have all
these thoughts and they start to race, and that creates
more distractions and then then that anxiety and then ultimately,
as I said earlier, division, so you actually feel divide.
(19:03):
You feel separate. What divides, fear divides, and so are
you going to tune into the thoughts that make you
fearful and divide you and weaken you, or you're going
to tune into the positive thoughts that uplift you, encourage you,
and make you feel powerful. So we've got to tune
into the positive. How do we do that? Trust and truth?
Trust and truth, trust instead of doubt, speak truth to
(19:27):
the lies. You unite with love. Love cast out fear.
So anytime you focus on love, the minute you do,
fear will dissipate. Fear has no power when love is present,
so bring love to it. And this is my greatest
performance tool for athletes. The minute you focus on loving
the competition, loving the moment, loving playing, loving the battle
(19:49):
doesn't mean you're not a warrior. You know you're a
warrior loving the battle. The minute you focus on that,
fear will dissipate. Because if you're worried about the outcome
and fearful of the outcome, you're not going to perform
very well. But if you're saying, you know what, I'm
loving this moment, let's go, let's see what you got.
Bring it on. I'm gonna love it. Let's see what
I can do here in this moment. I'm not gonna
worry about the outcome. I'm just gonna love competing right here,
right now. The minute you do that, you'll move to
(20:10):
a higher state of mind, You'll move to more oneness. Why.
Love creates connection. Connection creates clarity, Clarity creates confidence, and
confidence creates courage. So that's key. Unite with love, that's
the you. Then there's end neutralized and negativity essential. To
neutralize the negativity, negative thoughts come in. No, I'm not
gonna listen to it. I'm not gonna listen to the lies.
(20:33):
You neutralize it, and then you elevate. You elevate your thinking,
and you elevate it with optimism, with hope, with belief,
with gratitude. When we appreciate, you elevate. You elevate your mood,
your performance, the people around you. And also I'm a
big fan of focusing on your success of the day.
Like every night you go to bed, you write down, Hey,
(20:54):
what's the one great thing that happened today, not all
the things that went wrong, all the things that you
did that went right. And every day you go to
bed feeling like a success. Guess what happens. You wake
up ready to take on the day, feeling like a
success and creating more successes. And I know, Jay, you've
done some of these on your journey. I know you're
writing about these kind of things, like they really do
work and they're so powerful. But why they tune your mic? Okay,
(21:18):
everyone talks about these things, but why do they work?
And the one truth explains why because it elevates the
state of your mind and tunes your antenna into a
higher frequency. And the more you do that, you start
to move more wholeness and oneness instead of separateness.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I love that, man, I now practice that at night,
doing that every night, going to bed, kind of have
a thrown a party in my heart and wake up
with a gratitude list.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Once we do that, we start our day in gratitude.
It's a much better way to start your day. But look,
my problem had always been to give too much thought
to the negativity of Like, man, I'm almost a victim, Like.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
How do I get it out of my head? So
listen to this really helps me.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, And I had to teenager. I had a teenager
sixteen years old, suicidal and he was in the er.
Two nights before I went to go meet with him,
I knew his mom, and I said, let me talk
to him. He didn't want to talk to me. I said,
let me talk to him. I can help. So I
go to meet with him and now I'm talking to him.
We're having a great conversation. And I said, your negative
thoughts come from you, and he said, of course, they're
(22:20):
in my head. Here's my next question. If you believe
your negative thoughts come from you, who would ever choose
to have a negative thought? He's like, no, I wouldn't
choose a negative thought. I said, exactly, would you ever
choose a thought that says you don't have it today?
The future is hopeless, You're not going to make it.
The health diagnosis is not going to improve, the relationship
is not going to get better. You're not smart enough,
pretty enough, good looking enough, successful enough. Would you ever
(22:41):
choose any of those thoughts? No, they're always coming in,
like when you're dreaming having a nightmare. Are you choosing
those thoughts? No? So where do they come from? Consciousness?
Spiritual place right, the internet, cloud of consciousness. The brain
is the hardware, It's where the activation happens. But these
thoughts are coming in from a spirit internet cloud of software,
(23:02):
and we're always downloading these thoughts to our brain. The
brain is where the activation happens. So when the thought
comes in, it's often a negative thought that will cause
you to feel doubtful, discouraged, deceived, distracted, cluttered, fearful, and
you name it, all the things that bring you down.
For all, these thoughts come in all the time. So
(23:23):
I was sharing that with the young man and he understood,
and I said, you have a lot of thoughts in
your head. He said, oh, so many. He said. They
bombarred me all the time. I said, do they accuse
you and attack you? He said yes. It makes me
want to give up. I have tears as I'm thinking
about the conversation we had. I let him know, nothing's
wrong with you, nothing is broken. You're just having these
(23:43):
negative thoughts that are lowering your state of mind and
causing you to feel separate. But guess what, your whole
and there's nothing wrong. You just have to remember these
negative thoughts are not coming from you. Stop beating yourself up.
He did. He stopped feeling shame and guilt. Wow, But
the thoughts that were in his head that were not
from him. See, the thought comes in, he believed it.
(24:06):
He felt shame and guilt and then beat himself up.
So it got worse and worse and worse, and he
was spiraling more and more downward. Once he understood this,
everything changed. The next day, his parents like, what did
you do? I just share with him the truth so
we can understand how thoughts work. And that's what I knew.
I need to write this book asapaig.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I got to teach this to everyone it can, and
I've since taught it to several other teenagers who were
depressed and down turned them around immediately too. Just reached
out to this young man. It's been over a year now,
how you doing, high state of mind? Mister Gordon doing great, great,
best feeling in the world feeling. That's much work.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I love that, Absolutely love that.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Absolutely pres And yeah, and like John is saying, too,
all of us have heinous thoughts that go across our
minds and we tend to think, man, this must make
me a really bad person.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I'm the only one having these thoughts.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
No, we all have them. We all have them. It's
just obviously are you. I was to not act on
them and you don't act on them. You're a good
person if you act on them. And you may do
some stuff that gets you in the other category.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, but we all have them.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, And you don't want to believe the lies that
they're telling you, right, and try to get you to
act on right. Jay. So their thoughts, these thoughts are
always coming in and they will lead to your destruction
if you believe them, if you listen to them and
you let them dictate you. But here's the thing, Like,
you have the power to take control of your thoughts,
take every thought captive, renew your mind, tune in every
(25:34):
day to the positive. It's hard at first because you've
been programmed for a long time towards the negative. So
you got to change that dial and keep tuning in
every single day. And this is what I did. I
took that walk of gratitude every day years ago, over
eighteen years ago. Now not knowing what I was doing,
I look back, That's what I was doing, practicing gratitude
every day, appreciating, and slowly but surely I start to
(25:57):
tue my mind more towards the positive, more positive, less
negative thoughts. And so instead of that that that highway
to negativity or that highway to hell. We want to
keep that highway going to the positive and we want
dirt roads to negativity.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Give me the whole acronym I.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Love whole because hole was a big part of this book.
And that's the goal. Like the reason why we struggle
so much is we all have a wound within us.
We have a hole in our soul h O l A.
And when you have that hole in your soul, it's
a sign letting you know that you need to be healed.
And we all have wounds of our past. We all
have things that happen to us. We all have trauma
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in some way that that that causes this hole. And
we go through life trying to fill that hole with
all these things that will will make us feel good,
but it always leaves us feeling more and more empty.
And there's only one thing that we're really seeking is
to fill the whole w h oil with wholeness, with love,
with k.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
L.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Right, we want to be whola. And what you said,
if you don't have the w then you're gonna be
going through life with the hila. And again, this is
not a religion, this is spiritual and I would say
when you ask people, and all studies and research shows
most people believe in a higher power. Ninety nine percent
of people I believe believe in some sort of higher power. Well,
(27:22):
I call that higher power God, and so holds an acronym.
Where the W is where you begin to walk with God.
And God is a god of love, and this God
of love wants to heal you. That's the h So
you're walking with God. The goal is to heal the
wound that you have and to heal the hole in
your soul. So what so you could become one, so
you don't feel separate. So you become one, and that's
(27:44):
the goal. God wants you to experience oneness, and that's
the oh is oneness. You walk with God, you heal
and as you're healing, that separation gets smaller and smaller,
and you start to experience this oneness that you're meant
to go through life with. You're meant to be connected
with your creator. You're not meant to be separate from it.
You're not meant to be separate from anybody or anything.
(28:06):
You're meant to be one and connected, and that's where
you find wholeness and healing. Research shows we heal in
a loving relationship. Think about that. So as you heal
in a loving relationship, you become more whole. So we
w walk with God. H we heal. Oh, we experience oneness.
When you're experiencing oneness, you know what flows from you? Love?
That's the l Love is now flowing from you because
(28:29):
you are one. So there's no separation, where fears coming in,
where anxiety is coming in, where hates coming in. Now,
in oneness, there's only love because God is a God
of love. And in that love, that then e elevates
your mind, elevates your soul, It renews you, it heals you.
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And that's the power of what we're talking about here.
Finding that oneness, that wholeness, that connection will make you
more whole and then lead to more power and lead
to you living this purpose that you have in this world.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I've always viewed God as like my best friend parent.
What do you want from a best friend parent? Somebody
will just listen and be there and love you. Not
I don't ask God for this job to make get
me money or make sure I get this happen to
me or that happened to me.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I'd t how you end up scapegoating.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
God, you know, And man, I wouldn't want to be
around someone that's constantly asked me for stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
But that's it. I just asked, said, listen, my choice
to have faith.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I never felt alone, and all the years it's been
a very lonely existence with the depressions I've had, but
I've chosen my choice to believe that I have this loving,
best friend type parent who's always with me, and I'm
always say I'll I'll do the work, just pick me up,
brush me off, and let's keep walking this walk together.
So I love the lesson that you get. But again,
(29:44):
it doesn't hurt anyone else from me to have faith.
I'm not push your religion on you.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I understand where people get upset about that, but this,
just if I have faith makes me feel good, Why
would it bother somebody else. I never understood that. So
it helps you, it helps me. You haven't given a
shy give it a shot, Jenny.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Have you been doing this by yourself and you haven't
been feeling good and you're feeling worse and worse, and
you're feeling more and more disconnected, and you're feeling powerless.
That means in most cases, you're trying to do it alone.
So why not give the shot of a greater power,
a greater connection, a greater wholeness that actually uplifts you.
And here's the deal, Jade, say there's no God someone listening? Okay,
(30:23):
there's no God. Is there still suffering? Okay? So there's
no God, there's still suffering? Who's responsible? There's still war,
there's still responsible for the suffer. Who's responsible for it?
Guess what? Because we are divided and we are separate.
That leads to the war, It leads to the fighting,
it leads to the separation. And so what God wants
(30:45):
is he knows we're feeling separate, knows we're disconnected. He's
trying to big bring us back to this oneness and connection.
But we're actually believing the lie that it's him causing
the suffering. Now he's trying to bring healing wholeness. It's
a lie, and it's the forces of darkness that are
always trying to divide and separate us and bring us
(31:06):
the other way.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I always tell people that when you try and blame
God for things, listen, God gave us ten commandments, right,
let's just look at those.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's really kind of eight, right, because a couple of
them are the same.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Lord shall have no Lord besondes me, don't you know,
pray false tihles, things like that. So it's like hate them,
you know, But they're like, don't kill anybody, don't steal,
don't slip your neighbor's wife, right, take a day off, right,
and imagine how great the world will be if we
follow these eight ten simple rules. That's it, ten simple rules.
(31:37):
The world will be filled with a lot less war
and famine and anger, anger and anguish. But we can't
do it no matter what you know, what religion you are,
wherever you go, the most of most of the people
in that congregation just aren't following all ten.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So it's not God's fault. It's not us that's doing that.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Think about this, the standards that God has for humanitative
that he's had to say, don't tell, right, don't steal, yeah,
don't steal, don't sleep with your neighbor's wife. Like God
clearly understands the humanity right and understands what's in our
hearts at times when there can be this this nature
to actually do things that we shouldn't do. And that's
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what I love about you, Jay. You have such a
great heart. You have such a big heart. You care
about people, and that's what that's what we're meant to do.
We're meant to love others, care about others, serve others,
impact others. And here's the cool thing. The more you
feel one, you want to go help the one. The
more you feel separate, you want to focus on yourself
(32:35):
because you want to protect yourself, and you don't care
about anyone else because you don't feel connected to them.
But the more you feel connected to God and yourself
and others, there's this oneness that makes you want to
go serve others, help others, and love others. So guess
what you want to be a better person, Try to
experience more oneness.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Man, I love it so much And I love you brother,
always love having you all my friend. Yeah, tell everybe
the whole name of.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
The book, it's called The One Truth. You can get
the book at getwetruth dot com Get One Truth. I
hope you read it. I hope you understand separateness oneness.
I guarantee my promise is you read this book. I've
been asked, what's the promise. John the promise is you
read this book, You're not going to go through life
knowing that or believing that something's wrong with you. You're going
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to see what's happening. We live in a world where
so many feel cluttered, anxious, worried, chronically stressed all the time,
and we're not meant to go through life that way.
It's almost become normalized because so many people are dealing
with mental health issues right now. It's okay to feel
that way, and we're all going to go through it
at different times of our lives. But it's not meant
for us to go through life that way. What we
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are meant for is purpose and oneness and wholeness and
to feel love and connection and power and joy and peace.
And I truly believe as you read this book, you're
going to recognize that, and you're going to start to
tap into that, and you're going to move from separateness
to oneness, which is going to give you more power
in this world. And that's my goal as you read it, Man, I.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Am proud to be connected to you the one truth.
Elevate your mind, unlock your power, heal your soul.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
By my good friend John Gordon. Please go out and
get it.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
John.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I always say this about my podcast guest, but man,
I'm always so proud.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Of walk this walk with you.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
May walk together, brother, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You know that w you walk, you walk, but you
also walk with your friends and having friends along the
way and great friends like you. That's what makes life
so great. And you're one of my great friends.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I appreciate your brother, Love you, John Gordon. Pick it up.
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