July 15, 2023 • 41 mins
LaVar Arrington and Plaxico Burress talk about the latest on the NFL running back market, LeBron James announcing his return to the NBA, the Chiefs being named the best team at the ESPY’s over the Denver Nuggets, and more!
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and you know it's a good Saturday. I won't say
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Plex running Backs running Backs Bo tell us the latest
Joe Mixing the latest running back to basically be a
casualty of being a running back? What's what's the latest
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on that? And think I do believe Austin Eckler had
some some strong words to say about it as well.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
So, yeah, yesterday, Joe Mixon is the latest running back
to kind of redo his contract. Ian Rappaport of the
NFL Network has the details. Basically, Mixing took a four
point four point four million dollar pay cut this year
and a four point seven million dollar pay cut next year.
His twenty twenty three base salary is five point five
to one. He can make an extra two million in
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incentives and he now can possibly stay with the team
next year. But yeah, he did take a pay cut
to remain in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That's a haircut, not a pay cut.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
So before you before you comment on this, here's what
Austin Eckler had to say about the state of running backs.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
It's gonna take something, right, whether some guy stands out again,
whether it's this year or some you know, one of
these guys holds out and get the big contract. But
we need that needle to move to push us over
the edge. Because here's the deal. The salary cap goes
out every single year, right, and so you see new
highs in every single position. And I'm not saying we've
had another Christian McCaffrey type guy who's gonna even you know,
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blow up the market and the running back and put
a new high. We've had people that have.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Been closed for sure.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Maybe you could justify that there has been, but there's
no one even been close to those contracts, not even close.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
M where's that sound from bo rich Eisen? So? All right?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
We got so that was Austin Eckler on the rich
eisend soho plex and it just sounds like it's a
very very dramatic and just very very turbulent time for
the running back position. Do you do you agree with
what what Eckler is saying in terms of it's just
gonna take somebody who can move the needle and get
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that that blockbuster deal.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I agree with him one hundred percent. I've been an
advocate and speaking about the trend that's been going on
for the past couple of years with the running backs,
and he's exactly right. And you look, you look at
Joe Mixon and he basically cutting salary in half, but
he can make two million dollars in incentives to just
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stay with the to just stay with the team, And
that doesn't help the Austin Ecklers of the world, or
the Josh Jacobs and the Tony Paula's and the and
the sa Kwan Barkley's because all it all it's really doing,
is what Christian mccraffley said a month ago, is that
they're just devaluing the position with some of the moves
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that they made. Listen, I understand that it's business, but
to go from a nine million dollar salary down to
a five million dollars, that's basically they cutting your salary
in half. And I know that Cincinnati is a very
good football team that he wants to remain on, but
at some point in time, that's like Austin Eckler says,
somebody don't have to stand up and say, listen, we
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cannot continue to go out there and give these teams
this kind of production and not be paid accordingly. And
if you look at Austin eckler stats and what he's
been able to do over the past few years, man,
his stats are basically similar to what Christian McCaffrey has
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been able to do over the past few years. And
I just you just just mind boggling how these teams
and these organizations what's happening at the position. But at
the same time, man, the business side of it, these
NFL teams are going to continue to get the best
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players at the lowest price that they possibly can. And
it just happens to be at the running back position.
And it's just taken away from from the great players
that deserve it. And now we're sitting here looking at
a situation where you know, Joe Showing and the general
manager from the New York Giants, they have to get
a deal done by Monday. If they think Saquan right,
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it's going to play in the opening game against Dallas
on Sunday Night Football. And listen, I talked to Saquan
last week, and he's basically at a position where, listen,
he wants to be compensated for what he thinks he deserves.
He's not trying to break the market or set the market.
He just wants to be paid what he thinks he
deserves and that's the best way for him to go
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about it. But you know, Joe Shawan going into a
second year as a GM, they have to find a
way to get this deal done Monday by four o'clock
to get him a long term deal and not sign
a franchise tag because listen, if they don't get him
signed Monday, I don't think we're going to see him
suit up Sunday night against the Dallas Cowboys in Giant Stadium.
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How big of a deal is that If he doesn't
shoot out, man, it really doesn't give the Giants a
chance to win. I mean, you look at Dallas defense
and what they've been able to bring to the table.
They're going to continue to get better. And he's the
best player on the team. Man, take care of your
best players. And it's not like the kid. He's a
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great kid. Man, And you just don't understand why and
how these teams will look at a guy like sau
and he's basically your whole entire offense, and he makes
Daniel Jones better and he when you don't have him
in the backfield, it just takes away from the whole
entire offense. And plus you don't want to have this
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guy sitting at home being the scruntled and be like, listen,
they don't even want me, really want me.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
They don't really want me.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
And that's not a bad that's not good for anybody,
giants or him. But they got to get this deal done.
If they not, I don't think we'll see him for
the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Wow. Wow. All right, So here's my take on it.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
While I agree with what Austin Eckler is saying, while
I agree with what you're saying, you see outliers, right,
Like McCaffrey got his sixteen million. That's what Saquon asked
for for sixteen million, I believe, And they don't want
to give them to sixteen. I think they offered them thirteen.
I believe. I think it was fourteen. They offered him fourteen. Yeah,
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and that would have been up from what from ten
I believe something to that effect, Right, if he's not
trying to reset the market, but he's trying to get.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
What he's valued at.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Do we place Saquon in the same category as what
McCaffrey is.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I believe that he is from a performance standpoint from
being productive on the football field. I believe that it is.
But we don't really know the the you know, the
contract is. Was it not enough guaranteed money or it
sounds like to me the annual base sally was there.
They offered fourteen, but we don't know what to guaranteed
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money was. Yeah, that's offer. That is fair.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
I just I just think that if they offered you
fourteen and you were trying to get sixteen, are we
really like and listen? I mean, I'm you know, I'm
pro Saquon all day for obvious reasons. But if you're
at fourteen and they're saying, Okay, this is the best
offer we're going to give you, and we're going to
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take it off the table. If you don't take this
and you're at fourteen and you asked for sixteen, I mean, plex.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I mean, am I wrong?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
At at age forty five, I'm sitting here and I'm
just being honest. If that's my son. I'm telling my
son taking we're taking this contract, and the reason why
we're taking this contract is we're going to do what
we need to do with how you invest in yourself
and take care of your your coins and your pennies
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and your nickels and your dimes, and you're going to work.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
We're gonna work like we'll do what we need to do.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Sometimes you got to look at your value and understand
that your value is betting on yourself and knowing that
you can create and generate your own value within a business.
If I'm at fourteen million, if I'm at fourteen million,
I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Don't I don't take that deal.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
But then I had that conversation with with the organization saying, listen,
I've had I've been here, I've had two productive years.
I've had I've had two years where I've been injured.
You base what you do off of what have you
done for me lately, and what I've done for you
lately is been a catalyst for this team winning.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
If you want to use.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
My health history as as a reason for having a
little bit of trepidation or a pause on doing this,
then let's get this done.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Let's make it a short term deal.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Let's make it a short term deal, and let's revisit
it and make that short term deal worthwhile. If it's
if it's not, if it's not a good enough long
term deal. I mean the ten million at the salary
or at the franchise tag, I feel like that's too low.
So it's not there's not a sweet spot here for
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a runner. You're saying, fourteen is the medium. Basically, that's
what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like. And
if they if they offered you fourteen million, and that's
too off, two million off from where where McCaffrey is,
Like you said, I don't know what the guarantees are
within what they're offering him, and how feasible it is
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for him to get to the fourteen million a year.
But if it's close, if the contract reads like let's
just say for the sake of discussion, the contract reads
the same exact way that Christian mccaffreyes reads and he's
getting fourteen million, I'm taking that deal.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I'm taking that deal. Yeah, And there's other ways around it.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Just like when Joe Mixon restructured this contract, he gets
two million dollars probably easy to reach incentives. Give sakuon
two million dollar roster bonus or workout bonus or whatever
or whatever it may be to help him to get
to sixteen million.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Yeah, well we'll see how that all plays out. But
like you said, clock is ticking. You know who else
is clock is ticking?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Lebron James, Lebron James.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Yeah, he had an announcement to make. I don't know
if y'all heard it, but we'll talk about it, and well,
what was our opinions on that? I mean, you know,
you know it was the anniversary of the decision. Anyway,
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You know what.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
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Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, he is the King of the Man. I mean
aka AKA, I ain't got no socks on today, Aka,
I don't.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I don't think I have anything on right now. Yeah, yeah,
you know AKA stick city Man. Yeah, I mean La
var you know, La Style, Hollywood. Yeah, I mean it's
a few of them. You have me ghetto, you know,
we got you know, we got a lot of nicknames
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when you're from certain places in the world. Speaking of
humble beginnings, Uh, your boy, you know. On the on
the eighth of this month, mark the thirteenth anniversary, thirteenth
year of the decision, when Lebron James went on to
ESPN and announced that he would be taking his talents
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to South Beach.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Well, Lebron did it again.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
You know, thirteen years later, a lot of questions were
swear Lincoln surrounding would Lebron James come back? Which I
have the slightest idea as to why that would have
been being debated and discussed. We do know he kind
of said he didn't know after they lost the series,
but to the Nuggets. But I mean, let's be clear,
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I mean we I think we all knew what we knew,
and he made it official, he announced that he's not retiring.
But my biggest question here is was that was that corny?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Was it? Was? It? Was that a Was that a
lame move?
Speaker 6 (17:34):
I mean, does it like, yeah, it matters if he's
coming back, but he could could he have just told
everybody and the Lakers organization I'm coming back and and
just kind.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Of left it at that.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
That's what I'm saying. So did it did it matter
for him to come out in publicly? And listen, you
got to be a big ass star in the grand
scheme of things for this to even be a topic.
But I mean, let's be clear, he caught a lot
of flak and a lot of heat. You know, he
caught a lot of a lot of for doing the decision. Now,
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this wasn't quite like the decision, not at all. But
I mean, he did do it on a large platform
and he let people know he was coming back.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I mean, how did you take it. I really don't
see what the fuss is about. I don't see what
the problem is. I think that a lot of people
wanted the story.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
They wanted to be.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It happened, his decision, happened on live television again, and
it took us back to the to the whole Miami
Heat thing when he made the decision on National International TV.
And you know, it was a whole big deal, a
whole big deal for him joining the Miami Heat. But
I just think that people had a problem with it
because they wanted to be a story and somebody wanted
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the story, but not just to come out live in
the setting that he did and announced it in front
of everybody. But I just don't see what the problem
is with him saying that. Listen, he just said a
month ago to Mark Malone that the sun is I'm
the sun. He's ever gonna shine and he's the all
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time leading scorer in NBA history, And everybody knew that
when he got swept by the Denver Nuggets that he
was coming back for another season.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
He's not going out like that. We all know that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
And he does still have a lot to give to
the game of basketball. He's not he's not the best
player in the world anymore, but I would say he's
still a top ten player in this league.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So why would you retire and walk.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Away when he can still you know, get up, get
up and down the court pretty good. You know, he
can give you twenty five thirty points. But I just
don't see what the problem is with everybody with the
decision that he made. I just think that, you know,
people wanted the story for themselves and to have it
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be a bigger, you know, story than it was with
him announcing it at the Espies.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
All right, So, and he gave some I think he
gave some clear, concise reasons as to why he's staying
and why he hasn't left yet, And I kind of
I thought it was kind of dope, to be honest.
Here's what he had to say. Here's the SoundBite. If
you didn't get a chance to hear it.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
I don't care how many more points I score or
what I can and cannot do on the floor. The
real question for me is can I play without cheating
this game. The day I can't give the game everything
on the floor is the day I'll be done. Lucky
for you guys, that day is not today. I mean
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lucky for you guys. And they clapped. So you talk
like that, Lebron James, he knows his audience. I'll tell
you that. I mean, he'd let him know.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
I'm driving to put these two feet down, these ten
toes and I'm gonna get to work again. So I listen,
there's there's always two sides to every coin. I don't
I don't know that MJ had another side that was
as hateful towards him as Lebron James does. And listen,
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it's a different day and age, it's a different time.
So I get that social media has transformed the way
UH fans handle things. It's, you know, the social media
UH seen as such a negative cesspool of just just
people that just seem to hate their lives and and
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and hate others and just hate hate everything, and and
they have a platform to be able to tell people
direct that they hate it or they hate them or
whatever it may be. So maybe that's, you know, the
symptom that that Lebron has to deal with on the
other side of how much some people hate him. I've
even been accused of being a Lebron James hater. I'm
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far from a Lebron Lebron James hater. I don't hate
him just because I think that is the greatest player
of all time. I would just say that I think
that MJ is the greatest basketball player of all time,
and that's my discussion point on it. But you know,
I think that Lebron James has done an excellent job
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of continuing to pull the NBA forward and keeping them relevant.
You know, now you got the entry of Winbin Yama
into the league. They need They need Lebron James the NBA,
that is. I believe they need Lebron James to give
them at least enough time for the NBA to figure
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out who is going to be the next person or
people that can actually continue to drive this game mainstream
and internationally continue to drive it forward.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
I don't is there another personality and I don't know
that Winbin Yama is the personality to go with the
talent that Lebron James is.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I wouldn't speak I wouldn't say that from a personality standpoint,
But I would say from a standpoint of playing basketball
that I believe that, you know, we have some guys
that can, you know, continue to you know, carry the torch.
And you know Yannis and Joker, and you still have
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Steph Curry and those guys out in Golden State.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
You've got a Steph Curry, And I don't believe that
the NBA isn't a bad and in a bad state.
If Lebron continued, If if Lebron Leon chooses to retire
next year, Joel embiid, I mean, we have some guys
that can carry the league.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I don't know, man, and I say, talent wise, yes,
you got Joker. It's it's horrible to look at like
You don't look at Joker and feel it's horrible to
look at it. It's horrible to look at like those.
It's boring to look at how's it boring? Joker's game
is born, Joker points game about fascinating, twenty assists, and
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you don't see his.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Game is fascinating.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
He literally to look at him, don't you say to yourself,
how in the hell does he have to a man
of his stature, continue to dominate at the level that
he does A.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Plax, you be ten seconds into the game, he already
got ten points.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yea, I'm I don't see watching the.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Playoffs and the man, damn they had a triple double
in the first quarter.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't. How's that boring? Yeah,
I don't. It's it's boring because I can't see it.
They play an exciting brand of basketball.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Ju Murray and Paul Murray's exciting to watch play because
you can see on.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
The same team.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I can't just single him out and say, oh, the
joke is boring to watch.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
He is born watch what is? What is? Yannis isn't
boring to watch.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
But I think they're starting to figure out just just
don't let Yannis get to the to the to the cup,
you know, like, just just make them beat from the outside.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
He needs to involve his game a little bit. I
understand that.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
And and to that point, I think Jannis is a
great personality, But is he the personality that can carry
the league.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
John Morant look like he might.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Have been able to head into the like almost like
like the still the like the the AI version. Yeah,
I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that,
but I mean, he's going to have to grow up
if he's going to be that type of a guy
to that type of this type of a corporation. Who
else are we talking about? Joel Embiid. That's a no.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You know, he's just not That's what he's said.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
We're talking about mega stars that are going to drive
this game forward. Those are not the type of mega
stars that of Michael Jordan or Lebron James are.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
They're like not that.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
If Lebron James and Michael Jordan are the standard of
the type of players that have driven this game and
carried this game forward, there's not one person in the
NBA right now?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Are you not mentioning Stephen Curry because it's because he's six?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
No.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
I did give Stephans props when you said him the
first time I did.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
He's six and he doesn't have the stature of a
Michael Jordan and a Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I'll say this, who I probably had.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
He probably had more of an impact on the NBA,
in the basketball game as a whole, more than probably
any other player that's played.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Thank you very much that I'm not debating that now.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I believe what it's all said and done that Steph
Curry will be the all time leading score in NBA history.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Oh oh wow, he's only in what he's eleven twelve
year If he.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
If he continues to score at the rate that he's scoring,
and he plays eighteen nineteen years, like Lebron James, he
will be the all time leading scoring NBA history.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Look at where he's at right now. I don't, I don't.
I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
That that's a lot of so when you say Lebron James
and Michael jordan nobody talks about Steph curk because in
the manner that he's doing it in, it's not that,
oh my gosh, he just dunked on so and so,
and it's not going through the land that the final
switching from the right hand.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
The game has changed.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
But you know what, Lebron James and Kobe Bryant and
Michael Jordans, they built that larger than life persona off
of the style and the charisma and the way they
played the game and the things that they did off
of the court. That's what that's what So the game
has changed somewhat. But if you get a guy that
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comes into the league and can do the things that
Lebron James has done historically, what Kobe has done historically,
what Michael Jordan has done historically, that's that's a guy
that can get to the rim like a Yiannis, a
guy that can shoot some j's and and show like
a mid range game, but show an excitement that you
(28:25):
can get excited about.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
And that's a Jahn Morrant. I think that's a Jahn Morant.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
And he seems to have the personality, but he's got
to grow up if he's going to be that large
of a figure where he could transition, like I would
make him comparable, Like he's a comp to AI, And
you know what, AI was revolutionary and evolutionary to the
NBA and to the game. AI had an impact on
and off the courts as basically an iconic legendary figure.
(28:54):
I think John Morant has that type of sweat. I
don't think he's a Lebron or Kobe or Mike, but
I do think that he is that that other like
that other, that other star.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I can see John Moritt winning the m V P
one day.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I can see that. I can see. I believe he's
that good of a player. I don't disagree with that.
I don't. I don't disagree with that at.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
All, But I will say he's he's got to learn
to be an m v P off the off the
court as well.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
He's got to be an m v P off the court.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I can't believe we actually agree on something basketball related.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, well, you know, I'm just saying. I'm just say
I was watching the Summer League.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
There's a lot, like you know what's interesting, plex there
are a lot of really really gifted and talented players
that are coming into the league, like a lot. I
mean that the skill level, the talent level of these
players is pretty profound, and I think it's going to
be in in in like real like real time, real regard.
(29:57):
It's going to be harder for guys to separate themselves
to be a mega star with the amount of talent
and the type of talent that's coming into the league.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
That's gonna be hard enough. Man, it is really getting tough.
If you look at some of those draft pick these
you know, a Men Thompson and the Stoop Twin brothers
that went five and six. What about their family life
changed like back to back. I mean that was just
that was just sick men. But just piggyback off what
(30:30):
you said. Man, watching this NBA Summer League and it's
only what thirteen fourteen slots on the NBA team, it
is tough, man, because everybody is trying to get to
be that next Lebron James, just like you said, Steph Curry,
Kobe Bryant, and the talent level is just it's unforgiving,
(30:51):
and you have to be really good these days to
make an NBA roster. And you look at these these
guys in the summer league. What are these guys? Are
they all rookie's or G league players and there's no
guarantee that they're going to make an NBA roster.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I mean, it's correct.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
It happens every summer, and you have to be at
your best in a short period of time to get
recognized by the head coach and that organization to put
you on that roster. And it's probably already nine or
ten guys that are slotted on the NBA roster before
(31:27):
you even get there. And now you competing with another
thirteen or fourteen guys on a summer league team to
make that five slot roster on the NBA team man,
and it is it is getting tough.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
And then you got a Lebron James who's turning fifty
years old that that's still able to get up and
down the court. Don fifty there, he's not really turning
fifty years old. And neither is our man, Isaac lowin
Krown because he's.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
A backwards baby. Let's get a trend date. What you got?
Speaker 9 (31:57):
I lo oh right, you are fellas and we'll go
backwards in history because it was made at Wimbledon today
in the ladies singles final by unseated Marquette von Drusiva
against six seed ons Jibor.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Championship point for the world number forty two down the center,
the backhound return just about clear thanet Jabot.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
With the attective boss.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
It's a folly winner, Lamar Ketzevon Drusiva. It's a stunning achievement.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
The first unseated woman to win the Wimbledon title and
only the third all time. Boris Becker did it in
nineteen eighty five. On the men's side, Goron Ivanissovitch did
it in two thousand and one is Von Drusiva won
in straight sets over the sixth seed Jabor six four
sixty four. In Major League Baseball on Friday night, the
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Houston Astros defeated the Los Angeles Angels in Anaheim seven
to five. Angels on a six game losing streak. The
Colorado Rockies over the New York Yankee seven to two.
It's the latest in a season that the Yankees have
been tied for last place since nineteen ninety two. Kitting
I wish I was the Boston Red Sox had six
home runs adding insult to injury and an eighty three
(33:08):
win over the Cubs at Wrigley Boston on a six
game winning streak and finally fellas on Thursday. Newly signed
inter Miami soccer superstar Leonel Messi went viral when he
went shopping at a public's grocery store in Miami. Well, yesterday,
Messi caused another stir when he ran a red light
(33:31):
and nearly got into a collision with another car. And
if you can believe it, when it happened, his commute
was being televised live back in his native Argentina on
an all sports TV network called Tyic Sports. Listen to
this and you really need no translation for me?
Speaker 10 (33:52):
Then no, no, no, no, WHOA.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Don't find out anybody.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
So we really need to step up our game in
this country. We need to start televising the commute's home
of our superstar athletes.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I mean that's insane. Man. They was really into it too.
I understood a few of the words. Think about this.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I don't know televising they are televising him riding bruh.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Any dude that turns out what what? He turned out?
One six billion? Yeah? Man, everybody got turned down that
for what thirty four?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
What was it? Fifty million? Here the dude would to
published like he's just a regular guy. He's he is
the guy. Who does he think we're talking about? Well,
I'll tell you what. On the other side of the break,
we're gonna talk a little best team, best team of
(35:05):
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In the SPS? This is up on game. That's Plexico
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hour and the Chiefs they won best team at at
the SP's. Now, a lot of people I saw a
lot of feedback and a lot of blowback that it
(37:21):
should have been the Denver Nuggets, and I gotta say
I agree, And just from my perspective, I think the
reason why I agree, stretch is because the Denver Nuggets
have never won a title in basketball in Denver. Kansas
City has, and Kansas City has done it with the
(37:43):
same coach and the same quarterback that that got it
this year. I mean, to me, I thought that it
would have made a lot of sense that, you know,
bucking all the odds and ending up being on top
of the NBA at at the end of the SAS
and the way they did it, I kind of felt
as though it should have been Denver that that got
(38:06):
the award.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, man, no doubt about it. I mean, kudos to
Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey any read in the Kansas
City Organization man for what they've been able to do.
But just like you said, I just think that the
way the Denver Nuggets went about winning their World championship
and sweeping the Los Angeles Lakers, nobody picked the Denver
(38:31):
Nuggets to even get to the Western Conference finals. And
just like you said, the Jokers boring to watch. But
I'm just it just it baffles me at how they
cannot be the best team, you know, in the espies
if my memory serves me correctly, when we went to
(38:53):
the SBS in O seven, we didn't win best team either.
We won Bigger It's upset and uh, the Boston selves
and KG and and Rondo and Paul piss they won
the best team, which I thought we were the best team.
I could be a little bit biased, but I do
understand that everybody that gets invited basically is going to
(39:16):
win an award. You just don't know which one is
gonna be. But definitely, Uh, the first NBA championship in
dem the nugget history to win in this in the
manner that they did.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
The Miami Heat won one game out of out of
the out of the series, pretty dominant, and they basically
lost one game in the last two series and it
was just dumb. So they definitely should have won the award. Yeah, man,
I tend to think that that was the case. But
(39:54):
but okay, now, then that now leads me to the
next question or or kind of like a spin off
to it is if that's any other market, if that's
the Lakers and Lebron.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
James won, is it? You know?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
I think that you know, they would have won all
the awards probably, so they would have won biggest Upset,
best team, most likely to succeed, best smile, that's everything, everything,
that's everything. Best meet me after the after the awards. Yeah, man,
(40:29):
best meet me at the bar.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
They don't want everything, man, they would have won it all,
you know, they would have. That's come on, man. Yeah, yeah,
well that is what it is.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
And I listen shots out to the Chiefs and shots
out to the NFL and standing up against other sports,
especially the NBA, and still being able to be what
it ended up being. But but I digress. Well, we're
gonna take a quick break. That's the end of the
first hour. That's Plexico Burst. I'm LeVar Arrington, T J.
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Quinn Williams coming up in hour two, so make sure
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Joe Mixing the latest running back to basically be a
casualty of being a running back? What's what's the latest
(04:21):
on that? And think I do believe Austin Eckler had
some some strong words to say about it as well.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
So, yeah, yesterday, Joe Mixon is the latest running back
to kind of redo his contract. Ian Rappaport of the
NFL Network has the details. Basically, Mixing took a four
point four point four million dollar pay cut this year
and a four point seven million dollar pay cut next year.
His twenty twenty three base salary is five point five
to one. He can make an extra two million in
(04:49):
incentives and he now can possibly stay with the team
next year. But yeah, he did take a pay cut
to remain in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That's a haircut, not a pay cut.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
So before you before you comment on this, here's what
Austin Eckler had to say about the state of running backs.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
It's gonna take something, right, whether some guy stands out again,
whether it's this year or some you know, one of
these guys holds out and get the big contract. But
we need that needle to move to push us over
the edge. Because here's the deal. The salary cap goes
out every single year, right, and so you see new
highs in every single position. And I'm not saying we've
had another Christian McCaffrey type guy who's gonna even you know,
(05:31):
blow up the market and the running back and put
a new high. We've had people that have.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Been closed for sure.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Maybe you could justify that there has been, but there's
no one even been close to those contracts, not even close.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
M where's that sound from bo rich Eisen? So? All right?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
We got so that was Austin Eckler on the rich
eisend soho plex and it just sounds like it's a
very very dramatic and just very very turbulent time for
the running back position. Do you do you agree with
what what Eckler is saying in terms of it's just
gonna take somebody who can move the needle and get
(06:07):
that that blockbuster deal.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I agree with him one hundred percent. I've been an
advocate and speaking about the trend that's been going on
for the past couple of years with the running backs,
and he's exactly right. And you look, you look at
Joe Mixon and he basically cutting salary in half, but
he can make two million dollars in incentives to just
(06:33):
stay with the to just stay with the team, And
that doesn't help the Austin Ecklers of the world, or
the Josh Jacobs and the Tony Paula's and the and
the sa Kwan Barkley's because all it all it's really doing,
is what Christian mccraffley said a month ago, is that
they're just devaluing the position with some of the moves
(06:54):
that they made. Listen, I understand that it's business, but
to go from a nine million dollar salary down to
a five million dollars, that's basically they cutting your salary
in half. And I know that Cincinnati is a very
good football team that he wants to remain on, but
at some point in time, that's like Austin Eckler says,
somebody don't have to stand up and say, listen, we
(07:15):
cannot continue to go out there and give these teams
this kind of production and not be paid accordingly. And
if you look at Austin eckler stats and what he's
been able to do over the past few years, man,
his stats are basically similar to what Christian McCaffrey has
(07:36):
been able to do over the past few years. And
I just you just just mind boggling how these teams
and these organizations what's happening at the position. But at
the same time, man, the business side of it, these
NFL teams are going to continue to get the best
(07:56):
players at the lowest price that they possibly can. And
it just happens to be at the running back position.
And it's just taken away from from the great players
that deserve it. And now we're sitting here looking at
a situation where you know, Joe Showing and the general
manager from the New York Giants, they have to get
a deal done by Monday. If they think Saquan right,
(08:21):
it's going to play in the opening game against Dallas
on Sunday Night Football. And listen, I talked to Saquan
last week, and he's basically at a position where, listen,
he wants to be compensated for what he thinks he deserves.
He's not trying to break the market or set the market.
He just wants to be paid what he thinks he
deserves and that's the best way for him to go
(08:43):
about it. But you know, Joe Shawan going into a
second year as a GM, they have to find a
way to get this deal done Monday by four o'clock
to get him a long term deal and not sign
a franchise tag because listen, if they don't get him
signed Monday, I don't think we're going to see him
suit up Sunday night against the Dallas Cowboys in Giant Stadium.
(09:06):
How big of a deal is that If he doesn't
shoot out, man, it really doesn't give the Giants a
chance to win. I mean, you look at Dallas defense
and what they've been able to bring to the table.
They're going to continue to get better. And he's the
best player on the team. Man, take care of your
best players. And it's not like the kid. He's a
(09:26):
great kid. Man, And you just don't understand why and
how these teams will look at a guy like sau
and he's basically your whole entire offense, and he makes
Daniel Jones better and he when you don't have him
in the backfield, it just takes away from the whole
entire offense. And plus you don't want to have this
(09:48):
guy sitting at home being the scruntled and be like, listen,
they don't even want me, really want me.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
They don't really want me.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
And that's not a bad that's not good for anybody,
giants or him. But they got to get this deal done.
If they not, I don't think we'll see him for
the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Wow. Wow. All right, So here's my take on it.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
While I agree with what Austin Eckler is saying, while
I agree with what you're saying, you see outliers, right,
Like McCaffrey got his sixteen million. That's what Saquon asked
for for sixteen million, I believe, And they don't want
to give them to sixteen. I think they offered them thirteen.
I believe. I think it was fourteen. They offered him fourteen. Yeah,
(10:35):
and that would have been up from what from ten
I believe something to that effect, Right, if he's not
trying to reset the market, but he's trying to get.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
What he's valued at.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Do we place Saquon in the same category as what
McCaffrey is.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I believe that he is from a performance standpoint from
being productive on the football field. I believe that it is.
But we don't really know the the you know, the
contract is. Was it not enough guaranteed money or it
sounds like to me the annual base sally was there.
They offered fourteen, but we don't know what to guaranteed
(11:19):
money was. Yeah, that's offer. That is fair.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
I just I just think that if they offered you
fourteen and you were trying to get sixteen, are we
really like and listen? I mean, I'm you know, I'm
pro Saquon all day for obvious reasons. But if you're
at fourteen and they're saying, Okay, this is the best
offer we're going to give you, and we're going to
(11:43):
take it off the table. If you don't take this
and you're at fourteen and you asked for sixteen, I mean, plex.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I mean, am I wrong?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
At at age forty five, I'm sitting here and I'm
just being honest. If that's my son. I'm telling my
son taking we're taking this contract, and the reason why
we're taking this contract is we're going to do what
we need to do with how you invest in yourself
and take care of your your coins and your pennies
(12:12):
and your nickels and your dimes, and you're going to work.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
We're gonna work like we'll do what we need to do.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Sometimes you got to look at your value and understand
that your value is betting on yourself and knowing that
you can create and generate your own value within a business.
If I'm at fourteen million, if I'm at fourteen million,
I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Don't I don't take that deal.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
But then I had that conversation with with the organization saying, listen,
I've had I've been here, I've had two productive years.
I've had I've had two years where I've been injured.
You base what you do off of what have you
done for me lately, and what I've done for you
lately is been a catalyst for this team winning.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
If you want to use.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
My health history as as a reason for having a
little bit of trepidation or a pause on doing this,
then let's get this done.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Let's make it a short term deal.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Let's make it a short term deal, and let's revisit
it and make that short term deal worthwhile. If it's
if it's not, if it's not a good enough long
term deal. I mean the ten million at the salary
or at the franchise tag, I feel like that's too low.
So it's not there's not a sweet spot here for
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a runner. You're saying, fourteen is the medium. Basically, that's
what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like. And
if they if they offered you fourteen million, and that's
too off, two million off from where where McCaffrey is,
Like you said, I don't know what the guarantees are
within what they're offering him, and how feasible it is
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for him to get to the fourteen million a year.
But if it's close, if the contract reads like let's
just say for the sake of discussion, the contract reads
the same exact way that Christian mccaffreyes reads and he's
getting fourteen million, I'm taking that deal.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I'm taking that deal. Yeah, And there's other ways around it.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Just like when Joe Mixon restructured this contract, he gets
two million dollars probably easy to reach incentives. Give sakuon
two million dollar roster bonus or workout bonus or whatever
or whatever it may be to help him to get
to sixteen million.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Yeah, well we'll see how that all plays out. But
like you said, clock is ticking. You know who else
is clock is ticking?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Lebron James, Lebron James.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Yeah, he had an announcement to make. I don't know
if y'all heard it, but we'll talk about it, and well,
what was our opinions on that? I mean, you know,
you know it was the anniversary of the decision. Anyway,
you're listening to two pros of the Cup of Joe.
That's Plexico Birds. I'm LeVar Arrington, TJ's This is Up
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
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aka King of Man.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, he is the King of the Man. I mean
aka AKA, I ain't got no socks on today, Aka,
I don't.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I don't think I have anything on right now. Yeah, yeah,
you know AKA stick city Man. Yeah, I mean La
var you know, La Style, Hollywood. Yeah, I mean it's
a few of them. You have me ghetto, you know,
we got you know, we got a lot of nicknames
(16:28):
when you're from certain places in the world. Speaking of
humble beginnings, Uh, your boy, you know. On the on
the eighth of this month, mark the thirteenth anniversary, thirteenth
year of the decision, when Lebron James went on to
ESPN and announced that he would be taking his talents
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to South Beach.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Well, Lebron did it again.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
You know, thirteen years later, a lot of questions were
swear Lincoln surrounding would Lebron James come back? Which I
have the slightest idea as to why that would have
been being debated and discussed. We do know he kind
of said he didn't know after they lost the series,
but to the Nuggets. But I mean, let's be clear,
(17:16):
I mean we I think we all knew what we knew,
and he made it official, he announced that he's not retiring.
But my biggest question here is was that was that corny?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Was it? Was? It? Was that a Was that a
lame move?
Speaker 6 (17:34):
I mean, does it like, yeah, it matters if he's
coming back, but he could could he have just told
everybody and the Lakers organization I'm coming back and and
just kind.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Of left it at that.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
That's what I'm saying. So did it did it matter
for him to come out in publicly? And listen, you
got to be a big ass star in the grand
scheme of things for this to even be a topic.
But I mean, let's be clear, he caught a lot
of flak and a lot of heat. You know, he
caught a lot of a lot of for doing the decision. Now,
(18:08):
this wasn't quite like the decision, not at all. But
I mean, he did do it on a large platform
and he let people know he was coming back.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I mean, how did you take it. I really don't
see what the fuss is about. I don't see what
the problem is. I think that a lot of people
wanted the story.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
They wanted to be.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It happened, his decision, happened on live television again, and
it took us back to the to the whole Miami
Heat thing when he made the decision on National International TV.
And you know, it was a whole big deal, a
whole big deal for him joining the Miami Heat. But
I just think that people had a problem with it
because they wanted to be a story and somebody wanted
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the story, but not just to come out live in
the setting that he did and announced it in front
of everybody. But I just don't see what the problem
is with him saying that. Listen, he just said a
month ago to Mark Malone that the sun is I'm
the sun. He's ever gonna shine and he's the all
(19:16):
time leading scorer in NBA history, And everybody knew that
when he got swept by the Denver Nuggets that he
was coming back for another season.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
He's not going out like that. We all know that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
And he does still have a lot to give to
the game of basketball. He's not he's not the best
player in the world anymore, but I would say he's
still a top ten player in this league.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So why would you retire and walk.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Away when he can still you know, get up, get
up and down the court pretty good. You know, he
can give you twenty five thirty points. But I just
don't see what the problem is with everybody with the
decision that he made. I just think that, you know,
people wanted the story for themselves and to have it
(20:00):
be a bigger, you know, story than it was with
him announcing it at the Espies.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
All right, So, and he gave some I think he
gave some clear, concise reasons as to why he's staying
and why he hasn't left yet, And I kind of
I thought it was kind of dope, to be honest.
Here's what he had to say. Here's the SoundBite. If
you didn't get a chance to hear it.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
I don't care how many more points I score or
what I can and cannot do on the floor. The
real question for me is can I play without cheating
this game. The day I can't give the game everything
on the floor is the day I'll be done. Lucky
for you guys, that day is not today. I mean
(20:45):
lucky for you guys. And they clapped. So you talk
like that, Lebron James, he knows his audience. I'll tell
you that. I mean, he'd let him know.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
I'm driving to put these two feet down, these ten
toes and I'm gonna get to work again. So I listen,
there's there's always two sides to every coin. I don't
I don't know that MJ had another side that was
as hateful towards him as Lebron James does. And listen,
(21:14):
it's a different day and age, it's a different time.
So I get that social media has transformed the way
UH fans handle things. It's, you know, the social media
UH seen as such a negative cesspool of just just
people that just seem to hate their lives and and
(21:34):
and hate others and just hate hate everything, and and
they have a platform to be able to tell people
direct that they hate it or they hate them or
whatever it may be. So maybe that's, you know, the
symptom that that Lebron has to deal with on the
other side of how much some people hate him. I've
even been accused of being a Lebron James hater. I'm
(21:55):
far from a Lebron Lebron James hater. I don't hate
him just because I think that is the greatest player
of all time. I would just say that I think
that MJ is the greatest basketball player of all time,
and that's my discussion point on it. But you know,
I think that Lebron James has done an excellent job
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of continuing to pull the NBA forward and keeping them relevant.
You know, now you got the entry of Winbin Yama
into the league. They need They need Lebron James the NBA,
that is. I believe they need Lebron James to give
them at least enough time for the NBA to figure
(22:37):
out who is going to be the next person or
people that can actually continue to drive this game mainstream
and internationally continue to drive it forward.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
I don't is there another personality and I don't know
that Winbin Yama is the personality to go with the
talent that Lebron James is.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I wouldn't speak I wouldn't say that from a personality standpoint,
But I would say from a standpoint of playing basketball
that I believe that, you know, we have some guys
that can, you know, continue to you know, carry the torch.
And you know Yannis and Joker, and you still have
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Steph Curry and those guys out in Golden State.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
You've got a Steph Curry, And I don't believe that
the NBA isn't a bad and in a bad state.
If Lebron continued, If if Lebron Leon chooses to retire
next year, Joel embiid, I mean, we have some guys
that can carry the league.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I don't know, man, and I say, talent wise, yes,
you got Joker. It's it's horrible to look at like
You don't look at Joker and feel it's horrible to
look at it. It's horrible to look at like those.
It's boring to look at how's it boring? Joker's game
is born, Joker points game about fascinating, twenty assists, and
(24:09):
you don't see his.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Game is fascinating.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
He literally to look at him, don't you say to yourself,
how in the hell does he have to a man
of his stature, continue to dominate at the level that
he does A.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Plax, you be ten seconds into the game, he already
got ten points.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yea, I'm I don't see watching the.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Playoffs and the man, damn they had a triple double
in the first quarter.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't. How's that boring? Yeah,
I don't. It's it's boring because I can't see it.
They play an exciting brand of basketball.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Ju Murray and Paul Murray's exciting to watch play because
you can see on.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
The same team.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I can't just single him out and say, oh, the
joke is boring to watch.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
He is born watch what is? What is? Yannis isn't
boring to watch.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
But I think they're starting to figure out just just
don't let Yannis get to the to the to the cup,
you know, like, just just make them beat from the outside.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
He needs to involve his game a little bit. I
understand that.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
And and to that point, I think Jannis is a
great personality, But is he the personality that can carry
the league.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
John Morant look like he might.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Have been able to head into the like almost like
like the still the like the the AI version. Yeah,
I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that,
but I mean, he's going to have to grow up
if he's going to be that type of a guy
to that type of this type of a corporation. Who
else are we talking about? Joel Embiid. That's a no.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You know, he's just not That's what he's said.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
We're talking about mega stars that are going to drive
this game forward. Those are not the type of mega
stars that of Michael Jordan or Lebron James are.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
They're like not that.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
If Lebron James and Michael Jordan are the standard of
the type of players that have driven this game and
carried this game forward, there's not one person in the
NBA right now?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Are you not mentioning Stephen Curry because it's because he's six?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
No.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
I did give Stephans props when you said him the
first time I did.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
He's six and he doesn't have the stature of a
Michael Jordan and a Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I'll say this, who I probably had.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
He probably had more of an impact on the NBA,
in the basketball game as a whole, more than probably
any other player that's played.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Thank you very much that I'm not debating that now.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I believe what it's all said and done that Steph
Curry will be the all time leading score in NBA history.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Oh oh wow, he's only in what he's eleven twelve
year If he.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
If he continues to score at the rate that he's scoring,
and he plays eighteen nineteen years, like Lebron James, he
will be the all time leading scoring NBA history.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Look at where he's at right now. I don't, I don't.
I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
That that's a lot of so when you say Lebron James
and Michael jordan nobody talks about Steph curk because in
the manner that he's doing it in, it's not that,
oh my gosh, he just dunked on so and so,
and it's not going through the land that the final
switching from the right hand.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
The game has changed.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
But you know what, Lebron James and Kobe Bryant and
Michael Jordans, they built that larger than life persona off
of the style and the charisma and the way they
played the game and the things that they did off
of the court. That's what that's what So the game
has changed somewhat. But if you get a guy that
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comes into the league and can do the things that
Lebron James has done historically, what Kobe has done historically,
what Michael Jordan has done historically, that's that's a guy
that can get to the rim like a Yiannis, a
guy that can shoot some j's and and show like
a mid range game, but show an excitement that you
(28:25):
can get excited about.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
And that's a Jahn Morrant. I think that's a Jahn Morant.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
And he seems to have the personality, but he's got
to grow up if he's going to be that large
of a figure where he could transition, like I would
make him comparable, Like he's a comp to AI, And
you know what, AI was revolutionary and evolutionary to the
NBA and to the game. AI had an impact on
and off the courts as basically an iconic legendary figure.
(28:54):
I think John Morant has that type of sweat. I
don't think he's a Lebron or Kobe or Mike, but
I do think that he is that that other like
that other, that other star.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I can see John Moritt winning the m V P
one day.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I can see that. I can see. I believe he's
that good of a player. I don't disagree with that.
I don't. I don't disagree with that at.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
All, But I will say he's he's got to learn
to be an m v P off the off the
court as well.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
He's got to be an m v P off the court.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I can't believe we actually agree on something basketball related.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, well, you know, I'm just saying. I'm just say
I was watching the Summer League.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
There's a lot, like you know what's interesting, plex there
are a lot of really really gifted and talented players
that are coming into the league, like a lot. I
mean that the skill level, the talent level of these
players is pretty profound, and I think it's going to
be in in in like real like real time, real regard.
(29:57):
It's going to be harder for guys to separate themselves
to be a mega star with the amount of talent
and the type of talent that's coming into the league.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
That's gonna be hard enough. Man, it is really getting tough.
If you look at some of those draft pick these
you know, a Men Thompson and the Stoop Twin brothers
that went five and six. What about their family life
changed like back to back. I mean that was just
that was just sick men. But just piggyback off what
(30:30):
you said. Man, watching this NBA Summer League and it's
only what thirteen fourteen slots on the NBA team, it
is tough, man, because everybody is trying to get to
be that next Lebron James, just like you said, Steph Curry,
Kobe Bryant, and the talent level is just it's unforgiving,
(30:51):
and you have to be really good these days to
make an NBA roster. And you look at these these
guys in the summer league. What are these guys? Are
they all rookie's or G league players and there's no
guarantee that they're going to make an NBA roster.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I mean, it's correct.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
It happens every summer, and you have to be at
your best in a short period of time to get
recognized by the head coach and that organization to put
you on that roster. And it's probably already nine or
ten guys that are slotted on the NBA roster before
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you even get there. And now you competing with another
thirteen or fourteen guys on a summer league team to
make that five slot roster on the NBA team man,
and it is it is getting tough.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
And then you got a Lebron James who's turning fifty
years old that that's still able to get up and
down the court. Don fifty there, he's not really turning
fifty years old. And neither is our man, Isaac lowin
Krown because he's.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
A backwards baby. Let's get a trend date. What you got?
Speaker 9 (31:57):
I lo oh right, you are fellas and we'll go
backwards in history because it was made at Wimbledon today
in the ladies singles final by unseated Marquette von Drusiva
against six seed ons Jibor.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Championship point for the world number forty two down the center,
the backhound return just about clear thanet Jabot.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
With the attective boss.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
It's a folly winner, Lamar Ketzevon Drusiva. It's a stunning achievement.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
The first unseated woman to win the Wimbledon title and
only the third all time. Boris Becker did it in
nineteen eighty five. On the men's side, Goron Ivanissovitch did
it in two thousand and one is Von Drusiva won
in straight sets over the sixth seed Jabor six four
sixty four. In Major League Baseball on Friday night, the
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Houston Astros defeated the Los Angeles Angels in Anaheim seven
to five. Angels on a six game losing streak. The
Colorado Rockies over the New York Yankee seven to two.
It's the latest in a season that the Yankees have
been tied for last place since nineteen ninety two. Kitting
I wish I was the Boston Red Sox had six
home runs adding insult to injury and an eighty three
(33:08):
win over the Cubs at Wrigley Boston on a six
game winning streak and finally fellas on Thursday. Newly signed
inter Miami soccer superstar Leonel Messi went viral when he
went shopping at a public's grocery store in Miami. Well, yesterday,
Messi caused another stir when he ran a red light
(33:31):
and nearly got into a collision with another car. And
if you can believe it, when it happened, his commute
was being televised live back in his native Argentina on
an all sports TV network called Tyic Sports. Listen to
this and you really need no translation for me?
Speaker 10 (33:52):
Then no, no, no, no, WHOA.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Don't find out anybody.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
So we really need to step up our game in
this country. We need to start televising the commute's home
of our superstar athletes.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I mean that's insane. Man. They was really into it too.
I understood a few of the words. Think about this.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I don't know televising they are televising him riding bruh.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Any dude that turns out what what? He turned out?
One six billion? Yeah? Man, everybody got turned down that
for what thirty four?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
What was it? Fifty million? Here the dude would to
published like he's just a regular guy. He's he is
the guy. Who does he think we're talking about? Well,
I'll tell you what. On the other side of the break,
we're gonna talk a little best team, best team of
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the year. What was your choice? Did they get it right?
In the SPS? This is up on game. That's Plexico
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Speaker 3 (36:37):
Thank you man, thank you Yeah. Yeah. Uh so pretty cool.
You're you're your man.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
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Speaker 3 (36:58):
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Speaker 6 (36:59):
But you we will talk to the big Q dog
week in the next out. Yeah. But before we get
to the next hour, we got to wrap up this
hour and the Chiefs they won best team at at
the SP's. Now, a lot of people I saw a
lot of feedback and a lot of blowback that it
(37:21):
should have been the Denver Nuggets, and I gotta say
I agree, And just from my perspective, I think the
reason why I agree, stretch is because the Denver Nuggets
have never won a title in basketball in Denver. Kansas
City has, and Kansas City has done it with the
(37:43):
same coach and the same quarterback that that got it
this year. I mean, to me, I thought that it
would have made a lot of sense that, you know,
bucking all the odds and ending up being on top
of the NBA at at the end of the SAS
and the way they did it, I kind of felt
as though it should have been Denver that that got
(38:06):
the award.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, man, no doubt about it. I mean, kudos to
Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey any read in the Kansas
City Organization man for what they've been able to do.
But just like you said, I just think that the
way the Denver Nuggets went about winning their World championship
and sweeping the Los Angeles Lakers, nobody picked the Denver
(38:31):
Nuggets to even get to the Western Conference finals. And
just like you said, the Jokers boring to watch. But
I'm just it just it baffles me at how they
cannot be the best team, you know, in the espies
if my memory serves me correctly, when we went to
(38:53):
the SBS in O seven, we didn't win best team either.
We won Bigger It's upset and uh, the Boston selves
and KG and and Rondo and Paul piss they won
the best team, which I thought we were the best team.
I could be a little bit biased, but I do
understand that everybody that gets invited basically is going to
(39:16):
win an award. You just don't know which one is
gonna be. But definitely, Uh, the first NBA championship in
dem the nugget history to win in this in the
manner that they did.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
The Miami Heat won one game out of out of
the out of the series, pretty dominant, and they basically
lost one game in the last two series and it
was just dumb. So they definitely should have won the award. Yeah, man,
I tend to think that that was the case. But
(39:54):
but okay, now, then that now leads me to the
next question or or kind of like a spin off
to it is if that's any other market, if that's
the Lakers and Lebron.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
James won, is it? You know?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
I think that you know, they would have won all
the awards probably, so they would have won biggest Upset,
best team, most likely to succeed, best smile, that's everything, everything,
that's everything. Best meet me after the after the awards. Yeah, man,
(40:29):
best meet me at the bar.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
They don't want everything, man, they would have won it all,
you know, they would have. That's come on, man. Yeah, yeah,
well that is what it is.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
And I listen shots out to the Chiefs and shots
out to the NFL and standing up against other sports,
especially the NBA, and still being able to be what
it ended up being. But but I digress. Well, we're
gonna take a quick break. That's the end of the
first hour. That's Plexico Burst. I'm LeVar Arrington, T J.
Huschman Zade is out. This is up on game yeah,
(41:11):
and we're gonna take a quick break. But on the
other side of it, we're gonna get back to it.
Quinn Williams coming up in hour two, so make sure
you stayed locked in and dialed in.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
It'd be great to hear from him. We'll be right
back
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