Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes talk realignment and Hall of Fame!

Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes talk college conference realignment, Ja’Marr Chase’s preference for his QB’s return date, Kerry’s “Roads” to the Super Bowl, the Hall of Fame enshrinement ceremony, whether offensive systems benefit players or if players make the system better, Anthony Richardson taking first team snaps with the Colts, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Happy Saturday to you, Carrie Rhoads. How are you, Dan?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm doing well, beautiful Saturday morning, early, but ready to
get after it.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Okay, let's be honest here. We are about to embark
on the enshrine into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
The busts are going to be unveiled, speeches are going
to be given. Do you still have withdrawal at this
time of year, like knowing that it's early August and
you're not putting on the pads, you're not putting on
the helmet, or has that gone away for you? Carrie?

(00:48):
Is this a tough time of year or is it
a great time of year?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
This is like a nice spa day for me right now.
Not happened to be out there and that's sun especially
the last couple of years in Arizona, it was just unbearable,
unbearably hot, and so the thing about not putting on
the pads and the helmets and you know, in all
the all the extra padding for the guy that's getting.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Older in age, it feels Bill's kind of good right now.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
You know, It's funny because Brett Favre would, you know,
tease retirement year after year, and well what it would be.
It would be like Farv's body would hurt so much
at the end of the year. He'd be like, I
don't know if I want to do this, and then
summertime would come along and he'd start getting the itch.
But from everything like that, I'd never played anywhere near
your guys' level. Yeah, but I just know when my

(01:32):
summers in high school were winding down and football was
coming up, I was kind of like, oh man, my
summer's over with and so like I never understood, like
I get like apparently far just like got the itch
and others get the itch in July, but I felt
like that itch would come like late August, early September
when the real games are going because I just don't
know who would have an itch to show up for

(01:53):
training camp or two a day's back, you know, when
you play like I have no idea why anybody would want.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
To do that, Dan, I don't think it's about the
it's football. I think is about the itch of getting
out the house. There's a different there's a difference. So
I think that probably, you know, kind of helps to
give them the extra boost to get out. But I
don't think anybody, well, I would say from experience, I
don't think anybody really relishes the dog days of camp.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
So that's where we are right now in the NFL.
And speaking of getting out of the house, Arizona, Arizona
State in Utah got out of their house. Oregon and
Washington got out of their house as well, those schools
leaving the PAC twelve. And it's the story that everybody
is talking about today. Carrie, I know you went to Louisville.
I'm a big ten guy. Iowa, Sam and our staff
obviously a big ten guy as well. These sort of things.

(02:40):
Your conference where Louisville right now has kind of been untouched.
There are some rumblings of what could happen with the ACC,
but the PAC twelve is now in shambles. Oregon Washington
on their way to the Big Ten, and as I mentioned, Arizona,
Arizona State in Utah on their way to the Big twelve.
All of this is happening in the last twenty four

(03:00):
hours or so, and I am just so amazed at
something that is so massive, Carrie, that makes no one
really happy, Like I have not heard even from Utah
fans who maybe didn't want to go to the Big twelve.
They were maybe like one of the last holdouts to
try to make the Pac twelve work, And I think

(03:21):
that they're kind of resigned to the fact. Oregon and Washington,
I think, are just happy that they're not getting left out.
Maybe they do relish an opportunity for the Big ten
and to play in that conference. But it is such
a massive, massive undertaking, and I am so surprised that
there are so few people that actually are embracing the
realignment that we see in college sports.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, the embracement part is going to take some time
obviously when you leave. You know, the Pac ten PAC
twelve is such a historic conference and had so much
it had so much reality around it. For me, it
seems like it always you know, you think about the
old school broadcasts in the Rolls Bowl and having no
situations happened man into uh see. The realignment obviously is

(04:03):
gonna cost a lot of money for schools as well,
even though they're gaining some some some some some money
as well. But I mean all the travel traveling to
play these teams across countries, it's gonna be weird. And
you know, it all boil all boils down to money, correct,
So it's just yeah, it starts to take away from
the periody of the game as well, And it's just
I think when you talk about shambles, I think the
whole thing is in shambles. I think college sports is

(04:26):
in shambles as well.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's I think it's a matter of time before the
ECC ends up having the changes, and it maybe maybe
a decade maybe sooner. Florida State maybe trying to get
their own way out, but if they are able to
do so, I would think that others maybe then try
to follow as well, possibly to the SEC you mentioned,
you know, the the games at the Rose Bowl, and

(04:49):
it's not just USC U c LA, so we're talking
about Rose Bowl games, We're talking about Big ten and
Pac ten and Pac twelve. Then in the in the
later years, and I know the college Football Playoff came
and there were years that the Rose Bowl held the
national championship. It's funny, though, Carrie, because that has been
one of my sticking points of and I love college football,

(05:10):
love I love the pageantry of it. I like bowl games.
I used to love bowl games. It's a little different now,
but I think I'm one of those people that still
loved the Rose Bowl. And when all of this was
happening and we were looking at a twelve team playoff
in college football and not the four team and the
Rose Bowl was wondering how they were going to fit in.

(05:31):
I would argue, and I would say it on this
network and I would say, you know, like I just
I don't want the Rose Bowl to be ruined. I
don't want that to I don't want that tradition to
go by the wayside. And I people come up to
me and even on this network, say, Dan, the Rose
Bowl has been gone for years, you know, like the
Rose Bowl that I grew up on, or you grew
up on, or the people that grew up on watching
the Rose Bowl hasn't been around for years. But still

(05:54):
like to now think to now think of these great
usc Ohio state matchups that throughout the years in the
seventies and and even carrying out into the eighties are
now conference matchups. Ohio State and Oregon have played in
recent Rose Bulls, Wisconsin and Oregon have played. Now they're
conference matchups. The demise of the Rose Bowl because of
the demise of the Pac twelve is actually something that

(06:15):
I'm really really having a tough time dealing with.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, that's the one thing that sticks, you know, comes
to mind for me right away, just that, like I said, there,
it's just it has such a regal feel to it.
I mean, even the broadcast at that time it was
old school. It felt like you're having an experience, right,
So it kind of that kind of leaves off the
table a little bit here with all these all this
real alignment and all the the juxtapization and all the

(06:39):
things that they're trying to shuffle up there. Man, So
it's it's becoming just a business, and obviously that's kind
of where everything is heading too. But you know, I'm
a purist at heart. I'm an old school guy, even
though I'm not as old as I think I am.
But I'm an old school guy. So I like to
stick to some of those tradition things.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Iowa. Sam is our technical producer of the show, and
as I mentioned, a huge uh you know college football fan,
huge Big ten fan. Io Sam, you you popped in
the way. You also are going to be sad about
missing the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Absolutely. I was just thinking, you know, the even the patch,
the rose patch or the embroidery on the jersey, it's
like almost like a wax seal on some kind of
like medieval decree or you know. It's it's something that
like you look at it and it's got this it's
got this historical uh you know, specialness to it.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I guess if that's even.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, when they reveal, when they reveal the uniforms that
they're gonna wear and the patch and we see this
on social media, it is there's something to it, right.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yes, absolutely, I mean it just it just it means
more than like, you know, your your Gasparilla bull patch
or whatever, because that doesn't have any real historical meaning
or value. The rose bull patch goes the rose emblem
and it's changed over the years, but it's always that
beautiful red.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Rose and it does mean something.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
It means something for college football in a new year.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Sam, I think it's kind of neck and neck with
a little Seasars bawl, right, right?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Is that what the sulu?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
They should put two patches for the little Caesars. That
that's what they should be on both sides if you're
getting two pizzas. And this this is a heavy comment
carry from Sam because Sam's most recent Rose Bull memory
of Iowa is them down thirty five nothing to Stanford
at half times.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
But it was so that's how much that's how much
memorable to.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Him going through the gate, like it's still meant something
to be involved in that game. It was I think
either thee hundred and first or one hundred and second
rose bul And yeah, I wasn't even in my seat
yet and it was twenty one nothing and then by
the time I blinked, it was thirty five nothing at half.
But it was still like you still kind of count
the amount of rose Bulls that I always been to
in the last forty five years, and it's four, So
you're talking about something that they average once a decade

(08:44):
if that, so it's it is something special, And like
Iowa hasn't won a Rose Bull since nineteen fifty nine.
So you're like, it's like something that's always out of grasp.
It's just like, and you know what, the only way
I think that the Rose Bull can be saved and
it'll look different and won't have the same feel is
if it's a playoff game and it means something on
your march to the national championship game. Other than that,

(09:04):
I don't know how really you can save the Rose Bowl.
The Rose Bull itself as a venue will always be there.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
But I agree, I agree that the Rose Bull is
going to be around and it's going to be a
part of of the College Football Playoff. However, the only
thing that I would just say to that is it's
just it's it's not going to be the same. It
never is, like there is there is never going to
be a part. You know, I sat there and wondered,

(09:29):
all right, will Arizona actually be able to make it
to a Rose Bowl? Doesn't matter anymore? And now they're
not even we don't even know all the conferences are
going to set up. But even if they wouldn't make
it in the College Football Playoff, it's not doesn't come
with the gravitas of winning your conference and having that
victory like that's that Oregon State hadn't been there in years,

(09:51):
and you're wondering, all right, was this see the year
that they were going to be able to do it?
And hopefully it's not matching up in a year where
they're you know, the National Championship game would have been
like there's just a lot a lot at play. But
you had these schools that especially in the Pac twelve
that we're trying to get back to Pasadena because it
was a lot of USC, Oregon, Washington and as of

(10:13):
late now Utah. But you're never gonna have that. It
is completely gone. And that's the toughest part of me
to because really, when you look at how college football
has been over my lifetime of forty six years and
looking at like the Rose Bowl was one of the
constants and even though it was a different reiteration of
what we've had over the last ten years or so

(10:34):
or maybe fifteen, it still was what we all revered.
That's gonna be the toughest toughest part for me.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, it's one of those things where you still throughout
the whole bowl process, you wanted to see who was
playing at the Rose Bowl. Matter, It didn't matter what
it is. Even last year, you're like, who's playing at
the Rolls Bowl. So that's always been a sticking point
with me as well. It's always been a bread winner
in my eyes.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Five o'clock Eastern time, two Pacific was the kick. So
at the start of the fourth quarter, you could see
the sun setting and the beautiful on the San Gabriels
and behind the Rose Bowl, and that's one of the
classic shots in college football. There. The game gotten so
big there was no competing bowl game against it. It was
just the standalone bowl game. And now we're gonna end
up losing the Rose Bowl. There's a much that's one

(11:18):
of the small casualties in all this. Carrie, I am
curious as a former student athlete. Ye, the travel has
become such an issue. Do you think that the travel
will end up maybe making these schools make changes? How
much of an issue do you think that plays in,
especially for the Big Ten now with four schools on

(11:41):
the West Coast and the rest of the conference, you know,
in the Midwest or the East Coast. How much do
you think travel is gonna end up wearing on these athletes?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Travel is going to be a huge problem for those guys.
On a professional level, Arizona had trouble going to the
East Coast and vice versa. East Coast teams coming to
the West Coast have issue. It's just it's part of
the nature. The body doesn't wake up the bodies, you know,
It's it just it takes time to get to get
to that step and get to the process where you

(12:10):
can handle those things. And so you're telling seventeen, eighteen,
nineteen year old kids to be professionals and to be
able to fly across country and be ready to play
and be focused enough to get the job done. And
it's just it's not realistic now, I mean, especially in
this first year. It's going to give the teams that
are traveling to those destinations an unfair I mean disadvantage.

(12:33):
And so you talk about home Field being such a
major player now in its re alignment time, it's going
to be crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
It's not. It's just not an easy thing to do.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I just you know, I don't know what your recruitment
was was, like, I'm not it wasn't in your shoes
at the time, but I do know that you know,
a lot of times you're selling if you're in that
conference and you're from southern California and you say that
you're going to Utah or you know, you're going to
Arizon on a state, You're like, hey, we're gonna be
We play in LA every year. You know, we play
against the schools that you watched these you know, recruiting

(13:07):
grounds that you no longer for the Big Twelve sake
of you know, southern California and bringing in athletes is
no longer going to be there. Now Texas is open
up to those schools much more than maybe it would
have been previously without a Texas representative. But I wonder
too how much that is going to play into it.
How much is it going to play you know, into
Oregon and Washington. And it was one of the things

(13:29):
that USC reportedly why they didn't want Oregon to come
to the Big Ten is because they wanted to keep
those top athletes from Southern California at USC to have
that national brand, and they didn't want Oregon to have
those the advantages that they have and being a Southern
California school and wanted to keep kids at home. And
instead the Ducks are coming down here bringing in top

(13:51):
talent and LA times reported on it this past week.
But now, at least for the Oregons in Washington's if
you are a kid in southern California, you can go
to those schools, but there are spots now in other
places that maybe you once recruited that you no longer can.
And that's I think the case for Arizona and Arizona State,
in Utah and even Colorado. When it comes to southern California,

(14:12):
you're now not going to be playing any schools from
those conferences you know that that are based in that area.
So maybe your recruitment ends up changing, maybe it shifts
over to Texas that that that could be maybe the
only parallel, but there are going to be changes when
it comes to recruiting as well.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
That's a great point.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, the lure of playing, you know, checking that roster
and knowing that you're gonna have those those story teams
on your roster and have a chance to kind of
play the teams that you felt passed up on you
or didn't give you a legit shot to come in. Yeah,
it's definitely gonna ramp up some guys going to teams
in other situations just to uh, you know kind of
even that out, even the score out with that. So

(14:48):
definitely going to change that as well. And I think
it does open up the recruitment to a lot of
other other teams also that may not have had a chance.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
All right, So I'm gonna put you on the spot.
Do you remember the bowl games that you played in
that that you went to it at Louisville.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I do, I don't. I don't remember it in order,
but I know the only reason I know some of
them is because of the guys that I played against.
So I think two thousand and one we played Byron
Leftwich and Marshall and the g MAC, the GMC Bowl
we played. We played against Boise State, the undefeated Boise

(15:26):
State team in two thousand and four in the Liberty Bowl,
and you won. Yeah, we were the number three. We
finished the number three ranked team in the country. That hear, Louisville.
We had I think on that team we had maybe
twenty draft picks on it. I mean, we had a
lot of talent on the team at the time. At
the time, we were recruiting Florida and Alabama heavy and

(15:47):
so we had a lot of talent. I mean on
that team alone, it was me Harry Douglas, Elvisdoomerville, a
Moobia Coyer Twe Harris played a corner in Atlanta. Brandon
Johnson play linebacker in Cincinnati. I mean, the talent we
had that team was it was it was pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
We had Brian brom quarterback, We had Stefan la Four's,
we had Eric wood center from Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I mean we were loaded.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
So yeah, yeah, normally lost one game that year.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
We lost one game.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
We lost to Miami in the Orange Bowl, but we
were up in that game twenty four to seven at
the half and they came back and won at the end.
But it was so we had a we had a crazy,
crazy team that year.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sam, did you did you did you want to dive
into Liberty Bowl? Passed? Are you good? Carrie?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Were you on that team, that Louisville team that had
Brian Brohm and ray Rice?

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Was that the next year.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Went to rut Oh I'm sorry, excuse me? All right?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Sorry, yeah, I was thinking out.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
But you left after when they went to the Orange Bowl? Right?
That was that was the year after.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
The year after Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right right before they right before
the switch to the to the Big East.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yes, Yes, you went to a Gator Bowl played against
Virginia Tech as well. Yes, and now Virginia Tech is
your conference rival in the ACC. There, that's a perfect
way to put a bow on it. He's carry Roads.
I'm Dan Byer. You can hit Carry up at Carrie
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(17:21):
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(19:23):
carry I'm gonna put you not to the test, but
I'm we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna rattle off some
NFL teams, okay, and I want to know if if
there is an actual road uh to the Super Bowl
for them. So we're gonna play it off your last name,
and that's gonna come up in about twenty minutes or so,
we'll rattle some of them off to you rapid fire,
and you can tell us that they actually have a
legitimate shot at getting to the super Bowl, not winning

(19:46):
a Super Bowl, just getting there. Yeah, into the AFC
or NFC. You up to that? You up for that?

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Definitely up for that?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
All right? Cool? And then in five minutes or so,
we're gonna hear something amazing that jamar Cha said that
could be the future of the NFL, And I don't
think he realized what he was saying, but it could
be the future of the National Football League. But I
do want to put a bow on something because Iowa, Sam,
it's been kicking himself for the last six minutes thinking
that ray Rice was a member of the Louisville team

(20:14):
and only really really Sam, Right, this was like a
two minute like faux paw in your brain. This is
a two minute essentially brain fart. Right, Yeah, that's what
it was.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I crossed the streams a little bit in historically.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
It's totally fine.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I am not.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I don't want to harp on that. It's I would.
I would. I'd be the same as Sam as being like, man,
why did I do that? That was? That was crazy.
What I wanted to do, though, is bring up the
point and Carrie mentioned it. It was the first year
that they were in the Big East. Was the year
after you left, right, Kerry Right. So that season that
Sam had it mixed up, you had Rutgers, West Virginia,

(20:54):
and Louisville all in the race for the Conference Crown,
and I had to I remember I covered the blackout
game at Louisville when they played West Virginia on the
Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I was there.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Were you and I were there? We were probably I
was at the media. There were so many media in
that game, and at that time the stadium was a
little smaller, maybe wasn't equipped. Yes, I had to sit
outside on a perch because they didn't have seats inside
the press box for everybody.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, that was crazy, Dan, Yeah, me and I think
it was a bideek for me. Me and Jonathan Billmore
went to the game. So it was actually actually fun.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah. Yeah, and you guys won. And then it was
the next week though that then you ended up going
to Rutgers and then at Louisville did not you, but
the Louisville Cardinals went to Rutgers, I believe. And that's
when Jeremy Edo kicked the game winning field goal and
pointed to the skycam. That one of the memorable moments
in college football because they had the skycam over the
field and he makes the field goal and immediately points

(21:53):
to it. Two things they just wanted to point out.
Number One, that was seventeen years ago. It seems like
it was yesterday. But think of what I've mentioned. Louisville
in the Big East, right, Louisville now in the ACC West,
Virginia in the Big East, they're in the Big twelve,
Rutgers in the Big East, they're in the Big ten,

(22:13):
and the Big East doesn't play football anymore. Like that is,
like it is crazy to think like that was seventeen
years ago. It's fresh in our memory. But how things change.
Maybe that puts a little bit of what just happened
over the last twenty four to forty eight hours into perspective.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Listens, let's not take Sam all the way off the hook. Yes,
I really look up. I really look up to Sam's information.
He's very quick with it, he's very accurate with it.
He came over apologize. I accept his apology. But you know,
let's not put him completely off the hook.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Dan oh Man, the red uniforms probably it was a
red and red.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, to all this movement, these teams. You know, Miami
was in the Big East once upon a time. Finally
you had all you know, and the Big East is
now a Jesuit basketball league, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
And man, that's crazy though, I just I was thinking
about that. I'm like, gosh, look at where all these
teams at one point in their paths through college sports
all intersected at this point in like two thousand and six.
All Right, we're gonna get to what Jamar Chase said.
In just a second, Carrie, do you want to throw
it over to Isaac Longcron, who is here with the
latest on the Saturday morning. I know buss are starting

(23:20):
to be unveiled in so much more. What's going on, Isaac.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
Indeed, as we speak at the Pro Football Hall of
Fame induction ceremonies, the first to be inducted linebacker Zach Thomas.
He is up on the podium right now and he
was presented by his former head coach Jimmy Johnson. Meanwhile,
New Orleans Saints head coach Dennis Allen just announced that
running back Eno Benjamin has been diagnosed with a torn
achilles extra notable, of course, given the fact that Saints

(23:43):
running back Alvin Kamara was suspended yesterday for the first
three games of the season. Atlanta Falcons head coach Arthur
Smith said today that cornerback Jeff Okuda is expected a
return early in the regular season from an ankle injury.
He was carted off the practice field yesterday after sustaining
that injury. The Indian Outs Colts today signed free agent
running back Kenyan Drake. On Friday, the Pack twelve Conference

(24:05):
went from nine teams to four teams. First, it was
Oregon and Washington, leaving for the Big Ten. Arizona, Arizona
State and Utah followed them out the door for the
Big twelve conference, and Dan and Carey I have obtained
exclusive audio of Pack twelve executives discussing yesterday's developments.

Speaker 9 (24:25):
Listen, when can we get on the way?

Speaker 10 (24:27):
Demi's five compartments?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
She can stay afloat with the first four compartments breach,
but not five, not five.

Speaker 10 (24:34):
There's no stopping it.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
But this shift counts.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I assure you she can and she will.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
It is a mathematical certain team.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
Hopefully for Pac twelve fans heart there, their hearts will
go on. Finally, the knockout ro out of the Women's World
Cup kicked off overnight. Spain defeated Switzerland five to one.
Japan a three to one victory over Norway. Japan will
face either Team USA or Sweden in the quarterfinals. The
USA Sweet match kicks off at five am Eastern Time

(25:02):
on Sunday morning. Japan, by the way, four and oh
at the World Cup and has outscored its opponents fourteen
to one.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
Dan and Carrie back to you.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Thank you very much, Isaac. It is Fox Sports Saturday.
If you want to reach us out on social media.
Hit us up. I'm at Dan Byron Fox on X
and you can find Kerrie at Carrie twenty five Roads.
Did you hear what Jamar Chay said earlier this week
on the NFL Network carry.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I missed it, but I'm excited to hear.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
You're about to hear it. Is he sat down with
Andrew Siciliano and Brian Baldinger and they were talking about
Joe Burrow's calf injury and the health of Joe Burrow
and the start of the regular season. This was that
exchange earlier on the NFL Network.

Speaker 9 (25:43):
Do you have any doubt that he'll be there week one?

Speaker 11 (25:46):
I told him. I told him that, with all honesty,
I don't want him there. You don't want him to
play by one. Same thing with me mom last week
and week twenty exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (25:57):
And I sat out an extra game just to let
my hip hill up.

Speaker 12 (26:00):
Man.

Speaker 11 (26:01):
You know you don't want to cause no other problems
later on in the season. You know, I told him,
as long as you're there at the week five and on,
you know, we're good.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Brother. What did he say to that? I'm sorry?

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Did he did he respond to that.

Speaker 11 (26:11):
I mean, he just told me. You know, he's going
to see how he feels when Tom comes. You know,
he doesn't know when he'll be back, but you know
he'll be back soon. And you know what time will do.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Would it be wise for the Bengals to play it
super safe with Joe Burrow and hold him out not
maybe not even one, but five games to what Jamar
Chase said, or is Jamar Chase crazy?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Chase is crazy? I mean it's it's not he doesn't
have that much time. I mean, the the AFC is
it's really good. If he missed five weeks, they will
be so far behind the eight ball that they may
not be able to make it up. So he's that good.
He's the guy that obviously makes that engine. It makes
an engine run, makes that team go. So five weeks

(26:54):
is a little much.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I think it's I think that I agree with you there.
I do think he's onto something. Though he talked about
his own hip injuries and you know, and I gave
a little time. I think you can. I think you
could do that with a lot of positions in the NFL. Yes,
you just can't do it with the quarterback. You can't
keep out a guy for five weeks and be like
we're gonna be okay, like that, that can't happen. And

(27:17):
we know a quarterback, by the way, could hit get
hurt on the first snap after missing the previous five weeks.
So there's there's always the danger of your quarterback getting injured.
But I do think that there when the NFL, when
the talk about the NFL going to eighteen games and
expanding in the regular season, and you know we're gonna
do double bye weeks, remember the proposition that was, well,

(27:39):
guys could only somebody was proposing that maybe players could
only play sixteen games of a seventeen game schedule or
seventeen games of an eighteen game schedule. I think it's like,
on the surface, it seems really crazy, But being being
careful with these guys, I don't think that Jamar Chase
is too far off of what we now see in

(28:00):
the NFL because I think the added week carry has
made the season much much longer. And now when you
see the success now Kansas City did just come off
of a super Bowl win against the top seeded Eagles,
I understand that, but the previous season we saw the
Rams and Bengals make crazy runs to the Super Bowl.

(28:22):
Buccaneers the year prior got hot at the end of
the year. I think that to set up and Brian Baldinger,
Brian Baldinger even jumped in saying like, yeah, you want
them week twenty, And I think that that's the premise
that Chase was getting to and Baldinger was agreeing to.
It's you want to make sure that your guys are
ready towards the end of the season. So while it
may sound crazy for Jamar Chase to say that his

(28:44):
quarterback should miss the first five weeks of the season,
if there are other players, I think you're gonna see
that more and more with training camp injuries of guys
being held out just because of the absolute grind that
it is now with the extra added game.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh that was a percent. Yeah, you want to be careful.
You don't want to rush back from injuries. You want
to make sure your guys are ready to go. You
know when the games, you know when you really need
them and it really really counts. But football is such
a different animal because you lose a couple of games, uh,
in the in the NFL season and you're so far
behind the eight ball that it makes it. It just

(29:19):
makes it unrealistic. Unrealistically, You're not going to get in it.
You're not going to get back in in in a
place to make noise. So you always want to be
able to make noise in the NFL. And so five
weeks Cincinnati really good team, but we all know Joe
Burrows is the is the guy that stirs that coffee.
So five weeks is a bit much. Being costs is

(29:40):
a different story, though.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
There's there's a reason why I think that he said
five weeks.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
What's the schedule? What's the schedule?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know where this is going. You know where this
is going at Cleveland to open up now, big rivalry game, obviously,
don't want to miss it week to the Those are
two games. I'm sorry you need Joe Burrow for those games.
But afterwards it's the Rams on Monday Night football and
a Super Bowl Super Bowl rematch of Super Bowl fifty six.

(30:12):
Then you're at Tennessee in at Arizona. Okay, those are
your first five games, and that is why I think.
And then you have the Seahawks, Niners, Bills, and you
get into a stretch where you start to face the Ravens,
you face the Ravens again, and you have the Steelers
in Jaguars. So but I think that there was a
reason why Jamar Cha specifically said five games, and I

(30:35):
think that that was probably the reason why Dan.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So, if Joe doesn't play those first five games, what
do you think that's their record would be?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Right now? Because I have my opinion already, but go ahead.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I would say, I would say, I don't think that
they would be Cleveland or Baltimore. And I would say
I would say two and three. There'd be a game
in there that we thought maybe that they would win,
but they didn't. So I'd say two and three.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
That's exactly what I would say. We're right on.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, I don't know which game would like catch them
by surprise, you know if you will. But I think
that Jamar Chase did look at the schedule, and so
I also give him kudos and the thumbs up for
doing prep work on his quarterback's injury and being like,
all right, when the Seahawks come around, then then you
can be ready because then the week after you have

(31:20):
the forty nine ers, And he set it up that way,
but you have that stretch against the Rams Titans and Cardinals, who,
by all means who knows, could be fighting for the
number one pick in the NFL draft come next spring.
But Jamar Chase kind of knew what he was talking about.
I think you're gonna see I think you're gonna see, guys.
Rest But as long as the second half of the
season and the other the other obvious point is the

(31:41):
point you just made off the top, you could maybe
maybe get away with that in the NFC. There's no
way that is happening. In the AFC this year.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
There's no shot. I mean, it's so many good teams.
I mean in the in the AFC East alone that
there's four teams that can make the playoffs. Yeah, and
then you think about the AFC go although, guys, yeah,
it's crazy, Like.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I think Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh's gonna be better. You know,
we know Cincinnati and Baltimore will be there, right, and
then you'd have Cleveland off the gate. Weird scheduling and
I hate that the NFL does this. The Bengals start
their season with the Browns and end their season with
the Browns. It's it's too big of a gap to play,
you know, a huge in state rival. There is a
point where that Week eighteen game could be meaningless and

(32:24):
that's a shame with the two in state rivals. But
the NFL has their scheduling ways. That's for another day.
He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer in for the up
on Game crew here on Fox Sports Sunday. All right,
who has that easy road to the Super Bowl. We'll
tell you next year on Fox Sports Radio. He's the
NFL VET carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. It's Fox Sports Saturday.
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up at Carry twenty five roads. On the artist normally
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(33:52):
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Speaker 2 (33:54):
Really yes, man, I didn't pay attention, so now you're
giving me bad news on this Saturday morning.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
It is very weird.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
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super Bowl, that want to get to the super Bowl.

(34:25):
But realistically, there's only a select few that have actual
opportunities and real life expectations of maybe getting to play
in Super Bowl fifty eight in Las Vegas. And now
you get the opportunity to tell us like who is
real and who is fake. I'm not going to give
you all thirty two teams. In fact, I'm even leaving

(34:45):
out the Chiefs and Egles because we feel that heck,
they were in last year's Super Bowl, they're super Bowl
contenders again. But I've got a list of about ten
or twelve teams, and I'm curious if you feel they
actually have a chance at making it the Super Bowl
fifty eight. You ready to do this?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Let me get a let me get drum roll, Let's
go it.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Let's do it right. All right, here we go, Kerrie.
We are on the road. We are cruising the Las
Vegas all right, let's start it out. How about the
Buffalo Bills spend a little crazy offseason, especially with Stefan
Diggs and Josh Allen maybe not being on the same page.
What are the Buffalo Bills? Do they do? They have

(35:23):
the do you believe they have a chance to get
the Super Bowl fifty eight and Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I do not, really, I do not.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, I think there's a where there's smoke, there's fire,
there's a lot of things going on behind closed doors
that with that organization right now. I think with their
high profile players, I think now they're getting to that
point where they haven't maxed out that that ceiling yet
and now it's starting to get I think they're starting
to feel the pressure of it.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
It's that roller coaster and now they're they're on the
way down to kind of hit that dip. What about
the Cincinnati Bengals team we just talked about, Jamar Chase
says Joe Burrow should miss five should miss five games
if it was up to him. Bengals, they have a
chance to get to Super Bowl fifty eight.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
They have a chance to get to Super Bowl fifty
eight if Joe Burrows comes back before Week five.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
So what about what about the Chargers?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
The Chargers, they do they do have a chance. I
think they've been on the cusp there. They've been really
good offensively, defensively, they had to catch up a little bit.
If their coach stop stop using the analytics analytics so much,
they'll have a chance to make it.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Obviously, a change at offensive coordinator as well as Kellen
Moore is their Last time we saw the Chargers was
then blowing a lead against the Jaguars in the AFC
Wildcard Round. What about Jacksonville? Does Doug Peterson's team have
a chance to get to Super Bowl fifty eight?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
They have a slim chance to get there.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I'm not putting them on that's for sure, for certain,
but I do like the way they ended last year.
I think that they finally found Trevor Lawrence's comfortable spot
in that offense where he can really show his true colors.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
And yes, I think they have a chance.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
And so many people are high on Calvin Ridley coming
back from his suspension and being added to that offense
that already has tons of weapons with Travis Etn and
Christian Kirk and having Ingram and yeah, it'll be It'll
be an exciting season in Jacksonville, for sure. Lamar Jackson
is safe and sound in Baltimore's got his money. Odell

(37:19):
Beckham Junior is there. What about the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
The Ravens definitely have a chance. I think they've been
really good regular season team when Lamar is healthy, haven't
performed well in the playoffs. But now the new offense,
the new weapons, a chance for him to really unleash
it and be be special. Give him a chance to
be special. I think he can so.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Baltimore, Yes, Carrie says that the road to the super
Bowl could go through Baltimore. What about Pittsburgh Steelers Kenny
Pickett second year as a starter?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Now, I don't think they have enough yet. I think
Kenny Pickett's definitely on the rise and hearing all the
comments from camp and where he is now from in
his second year. Sam's really really good, and I love
Mike Tomlin as well. But I don't think they're a
super Bowl team.

Speaker 12 (37:59):
All right.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
You know what's now, it's the j E. T S Jets,
Jets Jets not led by Aaron Rodgers. What about them
going to Vegas?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
They definitely have a chance. I can't say they don't.
They have a chance. You got you got the one
of the best triggerman in the game on your team.
You can feel the energy, you can feel the guys
really buying, buying what he's selling and what that team
is selling. So I would say yes, and I'm not
being a homer. I really think they can.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
All right, one more from the AFC that will hit
the NFC, which doesn't have as many contenders. What about
Bill Belichick and those Patriots?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
No chance, no chance?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
And Belichick's great, obviously, but I think we need to
see if he can get it done without Brady and
that hasn't been the case so far. So we'll see,
but I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Forgive me Dolphins and Raiders and Broncos fans time permitting
your team just did not get mentioned. Let's jump to
the NFC Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott. Do
they have a chance to go to Super Bowl fifty eight?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
In the NFC they have a chance. If they're in
the AFSC, see, I would say no way, But NFC
they have a chance.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
I hope that.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Dak's been open about his interception problem from last year.
He's hopefully, hopefully he's not thinking about that too much
and just comes out and plays. But yes, they have weapons,
they got a good defense. I love Dan Quinn. They
have a chance.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
A couple more for you, what about the Giants? Sakwon
Barkley now on a contract, Daniel Jones has his deal.
Can the Giants make it the Super Bowl fifty eight?

Speaker 2 (39:22):
The Giants there, they're they're the kings of looking like
they can't make it and make it in those Eli years.
And I just, you know, Daniel Jones reminds me of
him a little bit as far as he's under the
you know, he's he's okay, and then he's good, then
he's okay. So I don't know, but I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
And two more, Uh, the Lions. Everybody's favorite to win
the NFC well not everyone's, but a lot of favorite
to win the NFC North.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, I think they.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I think they will win in the NFC North, but
make the playoffs yet super Bowl No.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
And the Vikings last one. Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. Could
they be in sin City in mid February?

Speaker 3 (39:58):
The Kirk Cousins story.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I love him now seeing him on the Netflix show Quarterback,
really became a fan.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
But they will not get it done. I don't think
they have a chance either.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
There. It is Carrie's Roads to the super Bowl. Heading
into the twenty twenty three NFL season. It is Fox
Sports Saturday. I'm Dan Bayern, He's Carrie Rhoades coming out next,
Hall of Fame and Shriman ceremony going on or is
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(40:52):
did miss was Carrie saying that he does not miss
the start of the NFL season and training camp. That
is something that he does knock a decade, about a
decade removed from the game and still does not have
the itch to go through any of it. Do you
think at any point in your life you're gonna be like, man,
I kind of wish I was I was at camp?
Or is that just not physically possible?

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, Dan, that ship has sailed. It's it's the rocky
waters are steel and calm and feels so much better
on this side. But you know what, but you know what, man,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I'd be remiss if I don't wish my buddy the
real reeve is a great enshrinement.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Today.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I was actually invited out and couldn't get out there.
My birthday just passed, so I had some stuff to
do here and happy birthday, Thank you Dan. Yeah, so
I couldn't get out there, but I want to send
him as flowers. The best cover corner I've been around.
Seeing pleasure to call my teammate a guy that came
in right away, took him under my wing. He wanted
to learn the game, learned it well, and just took off.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Man, it was. It was a beautiful thing to see.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I remember a buddy of mine telling me he's also
in the in the media business. But he was based
in South Florida and there was you know, he was
at some football camp with fellow wide receivers. And this
was before Revis I think became Revis Island, and you know,
the question was asked. I don't know if it was
asked privately in a private conversation or if they were

(42:18):
you know, doing a broadcast or something. But you know
who was the best, you know, toughest corner that the
receivers had to face, and a couple of receivers that
were there without hesitation, said Derell Reevis. What made him
so great? How did you know of his greatness? Because
it wasn't like straight out of pit He's mister lockdown

(42:40):
corner and Revis island like it seemed to take a
little while, but it felt like it felt like one
of those one of those things that the league knew
about it, but everybody else didn't know about it. When
did you know about it?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well, I mean early on, man, I he I remember
coming in two thousand and seven, he was he was
holding out a little bit to get his get his
deal done, and so you started getting that negative, you know,
vibe around this kid coming in thinking these you know,
bigger than everybody else, or you know, you just have
those moments when you're in a team where things don't

(43:13):
look good. Coming in, you see that and you kind
of feel that energy. But I remember as soon as
he got in the building, he was just locked in.
He's just one of those guys that legit was all
about football and locking in to be the best version
of himself every day. And I was a guy that
learned when I came in early that you had to
study to really be really good in this league and

(43:34):
to separate yourself. Because we're all talented, we're all athletic,
we all have the gifts, but that's why we're there.
But to separate yourself, you needed to study the game
and be a student of the game. And he came
in right away, I mean literally literally wouldn't leave my side.
Wanted to study, like learn, learn, learn, And then you
could see like how he started to break down film
of receivers and guys. He was so intent on knowing

(43:58):
what could be happening to him on the field and
putting himself in the best positions to succeed. And so
that's what stood out the most. But also a physical
presence at the line. He just does not lose. He's
so patient, and a lot of guys, even when they
get beat or they get beat off the line, they
have that they lose their calm, they lose their wits.

(44:20):
He never did, I mean even if he even if
the guy got him off the line, he could play
through it and get back and always play calm. But
just very I think, as sure of himself. And I
think that was the biggest thing about you know, lockdown
baby Reeves at the time.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
And Revis, I believe, and my opinion and interested in yours.
If Dion Sanders had his way and there was a
second floor and upper level penthouse suits of the Hall
of Fame, I think Darrell Reeves would be in that
penthouse suite like this is this is where the discussion

(44:55):
of the Hall of Fame or is it the Hall
of very good kind of comes into play. Dion has
made a point over the last couple of years of saying,
you know, they're listen, there are a bunch of great
guys that played football players, but they're elite football players
that are in the Hall of Fame, and to mix
them with maybe some of the others Dn's not not

(45:16):
a huge fan of I think Revis would be in
that penthouse level that Dion talks about. Do you feel
the same.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
One, Yeah, the penthouse level thing is a little bit.
That's a little weird of a comment for me from Dion,
even though I know what you're saying, and if that's
the case in the sake of that argument, yes, Darrell
does belong to that, but the you know, the time,
the time periods, the way the game was played, all
of that changes. It's all different. So a person you

(45:46):
know from the forties or the fifties obviously wouldn't stack
up athletically to the guys you know in this age now,
and even the way the game has changed or blossom, right,
So with the advancement of the game, the advancement of
how you know, big, big and physical, these guys are now, like,
it just doesn't compute. So to try to separate the levels,
it's kind of hard. Obviously, I think there are some

(46:08):
guys in the Hall of Fame that you know, maybe
maybe got their off reputation and stuff like that, But
at the end of the day, it's it's it's such
a hard thing to do and filter out. So I
just want to celebrate all the guys.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
You know, yeah, yeah, And I'm not going to put
you on the spot or make your name names, but
I am going to point out a couple of things.
And this kind of lends to the fact of what
Dion is talking about. For a while, when the NFL,
prior to the NFL Honors Show, they used to have
a special ceremony as special press conference on the Saturday

(46:45):
before the Super Bowl because I had to cover a
bunch of them carrying the media on Super Bowl weeks
where the Hall of Fame class was revealed. And now
they they reveal it and they do the videos and
they do the Knox and the players kind of know
a few days, you know in advance that they you
know that they are going into the Hall of Fame.
But usually it was guys are waiting in hotels, they're

(47:06):
waiting for that call, and then if they get the call,
they're rush to the convention center where the press conference
is and then they're brought in and you know, sometimes
guys are there, sometimes are not there, but it was
usually a Saturday afternoon sort of thing. And the reason
I bring it up is because I remember covering it
and they would tell you that the maximum number, you know,

(47:28):
for enshrinement was such and such, but it doesn't mean
that they were going to enshrine that many players. Well,
there hasn't been a year, I think in the last
fifteen years where they haven't used the maximum slots. Like
there is never a point where they're saying, guess what,
only three guys got in this year. And it was
just a little over a week ago that in Cooperstown,

(47:48):
New York, when they made the Baseball Hall of Fame
that Scott Roland, Scott Roland and Fred McGriff got in,
but McGriff got in on a different vote. It was
he was voted in on it essentially a senior comit,
a committee of Hall of Famers and others. Wasn't in
on the general ballot that you normally get in. Scott
Roland was the only player voted in on the normal

(48:11):
original ballot. And there were years that some guys in
Major League some years where the Hall of Fame didn't
have anybody you know in And that's the part where
I think, like that where I agree with Dion is
I'm not gonna pooh pooh on anyone's career because I
don't want to do that. However, the point is is
I know that there are some years where there are

(48:32):
more Hall of Famers than others, and that tells me
that those other years where there's not, maybe you don't
have to fill the class. Maybe that's just the opportunity
to get the guys who are maybe backlogged in other years.
And it just seems like that the NFL or excuse me,
the Pro Football Hall of Fame is just trying to
kind of make everyone happy, and baseball is a little

(48:53):
bit more difficult with stats. But I there's always been
a full class for the fifteen or so years, and
I just don't know if that's the case when it
comes to really determining Hall of Famers that we've had
that many.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, I think the the exclusive the exclusivity of it
is being dampened by you know, all the all the
people coming in and you know, all the discussions of
who deserves it, do they deserve it? Do the numbers
stack up? Obviously, Again, like we said, the era of
football has changed so much, so the numbers these guys
are putting up now it looks like these it looks

(49:24):
looks like they're Hall of Famers obviously. I mean, the
numbers are are astronomical, but it's it's it's hard. I
think the eye test. I think there's so many factors
that go into place with you know, identifying a really
really really really really special football player. And sometimes sometimes
you don't win the Super Bowl. Sometimes you don't get
the high stats because of the style of play your

(49:46):
team plays, on, but that doesn't mean you're not a
Hall of Fame type player. So I think there's I
think it's hard. Obviously baseball, it seems like it's the
hardest to make. Yeah, and uh, they're very they're very
non lenient with their guys.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
So and baseball is obviously such a numbers game because
it's it's even if you're you know, a pitcher, your
your numbers are there, Hitters numbers are there. You can
even look at fielding, like what are the numbers for
a guard? You know, like exactly in the world, Like
how would you like post those numbers up to somebody else?

(50:23):
Like you? You can't do it? And it's it's I'm
glad that you brought that up because the position maybe
outside of quarterback, that has the most numbers are way
the numbers that maybe pop out are what is wide receiver, right,
and it is tough for wide receivers to get into

(50:44):
the Hall of Fame. This has now been a thing
for the past ten or fifteen years, and I don't
know if it's because the NFL has become more quarterback friendly,
but I think even our bar of letting quarterbacks in
it was funny. We were at Rams Camp on Thursday
for the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio Night.
I'm on Dog Show during the week, you know, and
Doug brought up the fact he goes he thinks that
Matthew Stafford is going to get into the Hall of Fame,

(51:06):
and at first blush I was like, well wait a sec.
Then that kind of thought back on a Super Bowl win.
You got stats, you've got you know this and that.
I'm like, you know, and he probably will be, but
we don't, like, we don't take that same thing with
that same sort of leniency with wide receivers, And in
fact it's the opposite. So you have Dion who's talking
for an upper class in the Hall of Fame, and

(51:27):
there are wide receivers. Tory Holt's not in the Hall
of Fame, or it u Wayne's not in the Hall
of Fame. Andre Johnson's not in the Hall of Fame.
I know. They're like ballots are early and at some
point Andre Johnson's probably going to get in. But Tory
Holton reg Wayne have been waiting a little while. But
their quarterbacks are sure as heck in the Hall of Fame.
The guy that lined up on the other side of
the field. Is the wide receivers in the Hall of Fame.
I just I found the wide receiver position and then

(51:49):
you defended wide receivers. It was it was what they
paid you to do in the National Football League. What
when you like hear like a you know a Tory
Holter or Reggie Wayne is not in the Hall of
Fame and you've played it against these guys, does it
make you mad?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Is like?

Speaker 1 (52:03):
What are you what are your emotions towards it?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, I don't have any emotions towards I think the
I think, like what you said, it's really hard because
in passer friendly offenses, Tory Holt Reggie Wayne are going
to get numbers. I mean they're playing with Peyton Manning
and Kirk Warner, right, So you're gonna have those chances
to to make plays get the ball. It doesn't mean

(52:26):
that their Hall of Fame special. Reggie Wayne is he's
I'm sure he's going to get in at some point.
But the number one receiver on that team was Marvin
Harrison and it wasn't even close. Like you go, you
go into the game plan on on on Sunday, and
you know you have to start stop Marvin Harrison. So
Reggie Wayne benefited from some of that, right, So again

(52:49):
the complex nature of the game and how good these
guys really are and not just system players. I'm not
saying they're both system players, but the system helped them.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Sure, what about a guy like Steve Smith or Heinz Ward.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Oh you know, like yeah, yeah, yes, Steve Smith would
have a higher chance than hines Ward just because heines
Ward's a really good player. Again, numbers wouldn't stack up
to those guys heart and soul, somebody that they really
really needed to be successful and win, not a Hall
of Fame player, Steve Smith saying, I don't think he's
a Hall of Fame player, but Numbers are definitely better

(53:26):
and definitely a guy that you had to pay attention
to on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
So I'm not sure. I'm sure he may have a.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Chance as well, But you know, it's it's so hard, man,
That's it's hard.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, I think Heinz Ward. And the only thing is
that going to bring him up is I did read
an article where they were talking about you know, snubs
if you will, or guys that haven't gotten in, and
his name was included and I was, you know, I was,
I was a bit surprised, like he's he's definitely you know,
Steelers Hall of Fame worthy, oh for sure, you know,
and it's such a beloved member of that Steelers team.

(53:59):
But it it's the same, it's the same argument I
think when you look at someone like Julian Edelman and
you're talking about you know, his Hall of Fame candidacy. Yeah,
and you know, like obviously loved and made some enormous
place for the New England Patriots. But on the grand
scheme of things, I just don't I don't think I

(54:21):
don't think he's a Hall of Famer and I don't
think that he's you know, a pro football Hall of Famer,
great career. And again I feel so I feel so
bad saying this stuff, Carrie, and I can't, you know,
because these guys you know, you know, gave their body
up for ten years you know in the national football
just like you did. And I'm like, well that's not
good enough. Sorry, But truly, like that's that's what that's

(54:41):
the point that Dion is also trying to make, you know,
with all of this. So the wide receiver position is
just crazy, I think on the guys that that the
familiar names maybe that aren't in. Some that should be
knocking in, and then there's a handful of guys that
maybe aren't, but because of what they did for their teams,
people think maybe have a better shot than they reallyistically do.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Right, Dan, what do you think about Frank Gore.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
I think he has to go in. And the reason
why is because I am a big Carrie I've when
it comes to the Hall of Fame, I feel like
I have this. This could be like my seventh annual
rant about running backs in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
I feel guys like Fred Taylor, Ricky Waters, Warwick Dunn,

(55:25):
Tiki Barber, the guys who were dual backs running and
receiving put up crazy video game numbers. Those guys should
be put into the Hall of Fame. And I think
when we look at running backs, the running backs now
different in the National Football League, obviously in the current state,

(55:47):
but someone like like Jerome Bettis got in years ago.
And I'm always pick on Jerome Bettis, and Jerome Bettis
probably hates me for it, but he was a one
dimensional back on a team that everybody loved, and he
wasn't a great goal line back, so he accumulated a
lot of stuff and then his final game was a
Super Bowl win and everybody loved them because it was

(56:07):
in his hometown.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I think that Jerome Bettis got into the Hall of Fame.
And if you really look at what the Hall of
Fame is, I don't know if he should be in
the Hall of Fame. But since Jerome Bettis is in,
then to me, that lowers the bar for the you know,
for the Tige Barbers, for the Fred Taylors and those
guys that did both. And so when you bring in

(56:29):
Frank Gore, who kech had more yards than Jerome Bettis,
he's third. Like, I think he will be in the
Hall of Fame because you just can you can't ignore
the numbers that he put up over his career.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
So oh man, that's yeah, that's a tough one. That's
a tough one for me because I love I love Frank,
and I you know, I've played against him for I
mean since college, right, and yeah me, so I've had
a chance to see him and know what he went
through and to even have the career that he had
after the injuries he had in college to play sixteen
years of tackle football is just it's crazy. I can't

(57:02):
even fathom it. And to have sixteen thousand total yards
like the I mean, equals of thousand yards a year.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
It's it's hard.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I just it's I don't think he is a Hall
of Fame level running back. I think he's a Hall
of Fame level things, had a Hall of Fame level career,
which is the crazy part about it though.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Yeah, I just he's I think he's going to get
in because of the numbers. Yeah, and when you say
sixteen thousand yards rushing, it is exactly sixteen thousand yards.
It's not sixteen zero zero one. It is sixteen zero
zero zero. I just I think when they when he
gets up for enshrinement, it may not be first ballot,

(57:44):
could be a couple of years afterwards. I think that
that maybe could be the process. But when you look
at where everybody is, and by the way, the running
backs in the Hall of Fame are going to be
getting fewer and fewer throughout time because of what is
now happening in the National Football League. Every single player
who is top sixteen and rushing in the NFL all

(58:04):
time is in the Hall of Fame except for Frank
Gore and Adrian Peterson who are not eligible. And so
I think that tells you who is going to get
in and who is in and the guy that is seventeenth,
Fred Taylor, you know, and so again it just kind
of goes to Stephen Jackson, you know, former Rams running back,
you know in Saint Louis is eighteenth all time in rushing,

(58:27):
and so I think, like those names, I just think
that the duel back, you know, back in the early
two thousands, you know, Marshall falk was so good. Yes,
you know obviously with the Rams, and he is a
Hall of Famer, but I feel like other guys were
doing that as well, and we don't necessarily look at
the running back class as fairly as we should because
I think a lot of guys are getting short changed.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
And you talk about the its Marshall Faulk is a
Hall of Famer, you know what I mean, Like, it's
not even a question like and so I think there
are guys like that that pop off the screen where
you there are no doubters. And then I think for
the it's really just what is the criteria? What are
you really looking at and how are they making these
claims to be Hall of Fame, and I think if
it was more clarity around what that entails it to

(59:12):
make it a little bit easier for us to digest.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
He's carried roads. I'm Dan Byer in for the Up
on Game guys here on Fox Sports Radio. It's a
Fox Sports Saturday as we're live from the Tireq dot
Com studios. Coming up next, there's a story developing with
one young quarterback in the National Football League. Plus, I'm
going to put a bow on our Hall of Fame
discussion because there was one guy that's in the Hall
of Fame that I think is the biggest debate of
them all. So we'll put a bow on that. We'll

(59:36):
talk the future of the NFL and so much more
next year on Fox Sports Radio. It's Fox Sports Saturday.
I'm Dan Byer. He's carry a road sitting in for
the Up On Game crew. TJ. LeVar Plexico out tonight.
So Carrie's carrying all of the NFL experience on his
shoulders today. You know the name that I wanted to

(59:57):
just talk about quickly because the Hall of Fame in
shrim and ceremonies are going on and we talked a
lot about wide receivers, talked a bit about running backs
and the point carrier that I wanted to make about
the running backs, and I mentioned, you know, my thoughts
on Jerome Bettis, and it's not personal. I just I
feel he was a one dimensional back and you get
an advantage for playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Terrell Davis

(01:00:20):
is in the Hall of Fame, and there's no doubt.
And I know you didn't play against Terrell Davis. He's
about a decade before you came into the league. But
for three years in the National Football League, there probably
wasn't a better player. Was the NFL MVP in nineteen

(01:00:41):
ninety eight when he ran for two thousand yards, then
had the knee injury and it was basically done after
that was that was it. So you had three like
outstanding years, a thirty six month window basically where Terrell
Davis was the best player you know in football or
top running back. And he's in the Hall of Fame.

(01:01:01):
The two Super Bowls help. He was such a big
part of those Super Bowls. I absolutely get it. But
it is such a short career, and so when you
talk about the guys who did both the priest Homes
of the world. You know, you mentioned that, you know,
Reggie Wayne and Tory Holt maybe being looked at as

(01:01:22):
guys who were in systems and they weren't the number
one guys in those systems, right, And I kind of
feel it's the same way with a guy like Priest Holmes.
But I just don't understand it. It's I don't expect
you to have the answer. I don't know who's going
to have the answer. But it's like what Mike Shanahan's
you know, offense wasn't a system, you know, you know
what I mean, Like when he's getting those opportunities, Like,

(01:01:43):
that's the problem that I have when I feel like
some guys are are being you know, left out and
other guys are getting in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Yeah, I think, yes, Mike Shanahan system is a system
for sure, but I don't think everybody. I don't think
you could have placed another running back and that's in
that system to be as productive as as TD.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
So there's a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Again, I think it broils down to the eye test again,
seeing how explosive he was, seeing how much the system
helped him, but how he made the system better as well.
So there's a combination of really looking at football and
being a part of the moment with someone and seeing

(01:02:28):
that that person's special. Right, Priest Holmes, I love him,
Priest Holmes is special. They didn't have the team success
that the Dinner Broncos had, right, So you also have
a situation where he's with another Hall of Famer in
John Elway, that obviously boosts boosts boosts him up on
a different pedal store as well. So it's a lot

(01:02:49):
of right time, right place, circumstance. It's so many elements
that go into it. Dan, It's like if there was
a way that we, like I said earlier in the
previous segment, that there was a criteria that you know,
after all these ingredients are culminated, culminated at the end,
it looks like a Hall of Famer, and you know

(01:03:11):
that's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
It'll be a lot simpler.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Yeah, the the you know, and Terrell Davis is really
kind of the exact opposite of Frank Gore. Yes, you know,
in terms of where you are. And I had mentioned
how when you look at the top sixteen running backs
all time rushing in the NFL, the only two that
aren't in the Hall of Fame just aren't eligible yet,
and that's Frank Gore and Adrian Peterson. When you go

(01:03:34):
and try to look for the Terrell Davis in terms
of where he is in the rushing category of it,
you're scrolling for a little while, like you are, like
you're going down. You're like, wait this, and they go
there is there is at fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
He's fifty eight, and he's just.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Higher than Jamal Charles, who spend a little bit longer
in the National Football League, but also was that dual
back and preestyle actually has more rushing yards than him.
Priest Holmes played longer in the National Football League. Yeah,
the two thousand yard year really does, you know, stand
out for Davis? And you know what you brought up
a point that I had never really thought of, is
that we had thought of Mike Shanahan's offense of being

(01:04:15):
plug and play, and I feel like even Kyle Shanahan
you kind of have some of that, but you see
the levels it can go to with Christian McCaffrey as
opposed to maybe Elijah Mitchell or Jeff Wilson, And no
disrespect to those guys, exactly, it's a little bit a
little bit more like we think of orlandis Gary and
Mike Anderson and guys who were put into that system
and had successful numbers. They didn't have seventeen hundred yards.

(01:04:39):
They didn't have two thousand yard season.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
And that's and that's the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
So yeah, I mean systems are great, and systems are
gonna know if they're really good, they're gonna put guys
in the best position to be them to be the
best version of themselves. And you get that, and then
you get a special player like TD on top of it,
then it's that's when it's special.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
He's carrier on. I'm Dan Byer. Let's jump to the
news desk. Isaac Lohenkron going to give us the latest
of what is happening on. This is Saturday Enshriven ceremonies,
and I don't know if there's a whole lot going
on outside Women's World Cup. I know earlier today you
can dive into in little.

Speaker 8 (01:05:16):
Baseball, including a potential international incident.

Speaker 9 (01:05:21):
In the Women's World Cup.

Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
We will get to that shortly, but as you mentioned,
the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty
three being inducted. As we speak in Canton. The most
recent to complete their induction pass Rusher at DeMarcus Ware
who is presented by Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.

Speaker 12 (01:05:36):
I've been thinking about it a lot for.

Speaker 8 (01:05:37):
Shower, indeed, and then where himself took the stage.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Deshrinment, by definition, is to cherish the sacred. I cherish
every trial and tribulation that has gotten me here. I
am his sacred work. This is and has been God's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Work through me.

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
Jet's defensive lineman Joe Klecko on the podium giving his
induction speech as we speak. New Orland Saints head coach
Dennis Allen announced today that a running back Eno Benjamin
has been diagnosed with a torn achilles extra notable, of course,
because Saints running back Alvin Kamara suspended yesterday for the
first three games of the season. Jacksonville Jaguars offensive lineman
Tyler Shadley back at practice today after experiencing an irregular

(01:06:21):
heartbeat earlier this week. Two major League baseball games going
on right now. Astros and Yankee scoreless in the bottom
of the second inning. Tampa Bay A won nothing lead
at Detroit in the top of the second knockout round
of the Women's World Cup kicked off overnight Spain over
Switzerland at five to one. Japan advancing to the quarterfinals
with a three to one victory over Norway, so Japan

(01:06:42):
will face either Team USA or Sweden in the quarterfinals.
The USA Sweden match kicks off at five am Eastern
Times Sunday morning in Melbourne. And Team USA has actually
found itself in controversy what it referred to Melbourne as
Melby in a social media post, and apparently many people

(01:07:02):
in Melbourne found this offensive, including a woman who lives
in Melbourne named Dorothy, who tweeted and I quote, no,
our wonderful city has never ever been called Melby. Many
neutral supporters may well now jump on Sweden's bandwagon as

(01:07:23):
a result, and you only have yourself to blame unquote.
Looks like for Dorothy, there's no place like home anyway
this Carrie thought, Yeah, well, Carrie, you obviously studied the
film on me before this one. So this controversy escalated

(01:07:44):
all the way to the point where tem USA star
Alex Morgan was actually asked about it during a news
conference today.

Speaker 13 (01:07:52):
I didn't know there was a stir cause from shortening
in a city's name I mean they say so. I
thought Melby was just the next continuation of that. But
we'll call them whatever they want.

Speaker 9 (01:08:07):
You can't make this step up, guys, back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I will say this as someone who was born and
raised in Wisconsin, I never heard the term scannie.

Speaker 8 (01:08:18):
Used or whiskey whiskey would would you get offended?

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Heard?

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Though heard?

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
I heard whiskey a little bit, but I never heard scannie.
And then I moved out to California, and I don't know,
I feel like it's been in the last ten years,
like there are t shirts that now say Scott. I
never had ever ever heard of that. I heard a
little whiskey, but never Scannie, Dan and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Dan, and I'll tell you I'm sorry, sorry to cut
you off, Dan. But the Melbourne I've been there quite
a bit. They are very prowderful, very prideful, and if
something irks him they will let you know about it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
So they were definitely irked. And it adds up as he.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Probably when San Francisco people hear people say Frisco, that's
an annoying one that they don't like either. They are
not a fan, not a fan of that. Never heard,
but I've never heard Scannie until I until I left
the state Dan And apparently now Melbourne has heard Melby,
Iowa Sam is here.

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
I have jumped in here. Scannie makes me cringe a
little bit. I don't know, it's awful. I get Scannie
is just cool. Cringe cringey.

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
By the way, wasn't Melby one of the Spice girls?

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Very very good? Oh Man and drama at the at
the World Cup? All right? Get Isaac on Ax at
Isaac Lohankron, you can hit Carry Rhodes and myself up.
I'm at dan Byer on Fox. You can find Kerry
at Carrie twenty five Roads. Anthony Richardson was drafted fourth
overall by the Indianapolis Colts. They brought in Gardner Minshew

(01:09:55):
this offseason, but it has been Richardson getting the first
team snaps and it sure seems seems like he is
on track to be the Colts starting quarterback in Week
one of the NFL's regular season. The reason I bring
this up, Carry is because of all the conversation that
we had had I don't know what three four months

(01:10:15):
ago and leading up to the NFL draft, and what
can Anthony Richardson do? And at one point. I thought
that Anthony Richardson should have been the first overall pick
in the draft if people were as high on his
ceiling as they were. But the common theme was, you know,
let the guy sit because he's young, because he was inexperienced,
and let him do his thing. And that does not

(01:10:36):
seem to be the case in Indianapolis right now. Are
the Colts doing the right thing of the doing the
wrong thing with Anthony Richardson and making him, you know,
get all these first team snaps in training camp.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Well, they got the blueprint right. They had a guy
who came in as a rookie. Sylan was really high.
A lot of people were high on what he could
do and what he could bring to the franchise. And
Peyton Manning right, he thought was out there from day one.
He had his bumps and Bruce has learned terrible first year.
But I won't say terrible. I mean it's just terrible.
A lot of interceptions, yes, yes, wise, but you know,

(01:11:08):
I'm sure the the you know, having the experience of
getting out there and getting it going, what's good for him.
I think what the Colts are doing right now, though
I don't know if Anthony Richardson is ready or not.
I don't know if it's the best decision, but right
now they're in a place where they need to have
some hope, they need to have some some butts in
the seats, and so he will do that, and he's

(01:11:30):
their number one pick. He'll give them a chance to,
you know, have something to root for. But right now,
I think that's more what it is. It's about giving
that that city a chance to come and see possibly
the future of what this team can can bring.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
I think that there are two things at play in here.
Number one when it comes to Jonathan Taylor. And I
felt this when he asked for his trade request that
Jonathan Taylor knew that Anthyin and Richardson is going to
be a part of that offense this year and likely
going to be the starter. And you know whose numbers
go down when you have a running quarterback, it's very
likely that it's the starting running back. So when you're
Jonathan Taylor and people are gonna say, oh, wait, you

(01:12:05):
were injured in twenty twenty two, and then your numbers
decreased in twenty twenty three from your great season in
twenty twenty one, you know, we don't think we should
pay you as much. I get why he would want
to be traded or would be not happy, or would
want a long term deal. I completely understand that. But
I also think that there's another part of this that
isn't Jonathan Taylor related, and it's actually the future of
the NFL where if Anthony Richardson works out, if this

(01:12:29):
is the plan there, you know, there are guys like
when Dirknovitsky was drafted and then became so great and
won a title and Hall of Fame career for twenty years. Heck,
I think people are still trying to do it now,
trying to draft the next Dirk, or maybe they're trying
to draft the next Giannis. And I think that could
be the case that you would get in the National

(01:12:49):
Football League, that the raw talents, the guys that would
have limited experience, but you know, could have that ceiling.
If Anthony Richardson has any sort of success this year,
is the cold starting quarterback, I think that's going He's
going to start a trend in the NFL in the
draft where you're seeing these quarterbacks that you know, have
all the skills but maybe just not the experience and

(01:13:11):
have this raw ability. They're gonna be the guys going one,
two and three, and maybe not so much the more
polished Bryce Young's and c J. Strouds. Because of the
success that Anthony Richardson would have had in his rookie
season by getting to start right away. We had thought
four months ago, we had thought Richardson is probably gonna
sit out the whole season or maybe probably later on
and then but now if he's number one, I mean, you're,

(01:13:31):
you know, the number one quarterback and getting starts, I
think that could change the the future of how teams
look at quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
The whole thing is the old MJ quote, right, the
ceiling is the roof. I think it goes. I think
it goes through the routh. With with Anthony Richardson. Richardson
and his potential, it's always a sackey and and you know,
could be suspecting to throw throw a guy out there.
I mean, the quarterback position in such a frodict one
confidence is fleeting and uh it's very hard to get

(01:14:00):
back once you lose it, So you just got to
be careful.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Give him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I think if they're giving him the chance to do
what he does best, and not play traditional quarterback to
start this thing. Then he has a chance. But if
they throw him in the fire and tell him to
go straight into the pro style offense and make all
the reads and do all that, it can be a
It can be a long haul for him. So hopefully
they treat him right, give him a chance to be successful,
and then maybe, yeah, maybe you're right when it comes

(01:14:26):
to drafting. You know more potential, you know, guys with
bigger ceilings and than the guys that are just going
to come in and be plugging play.

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He's carried roads. I'm Dan Byer in for the Upon
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you don't have LeVar, you don't have TJ, you don't
have Plexico. You do have Carry, though Carrie Rhoads is
our NFL player representative, I'm Dan Beyer sitting in with
Carry today hanging out, and I figured Carrie, the best

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way to wrap up the show, since this show is
about the opinions and the thought of guys who played
the game just like you. I also played the game,
but just not to the level that you did, all right,
and not even close to the level that you did.
We're talking, we're talking high school and that was it.

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But Carrie, what I have done is I've compiled moments
from your career in my career, and we're going to
see how Iowa Sam and bo Benson do and determining
who did what during our games. Okay, so they're going
to have to decide if the stat or the tidbit
that I give them happened to you and your career

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or me and my playing career. Is that fair?

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Let's do it's all right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Let's do it. All right, Let's see how well bo
Iowa Sam. Are you guys ready for this? You're working
as a team.

Speaker 10 (01:16:45):
Not against each other absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Which you normally are. Okay.

Speaker 14 (01:16:49):
I feel like as long as you don't ask us
where Ray Rice played football?

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Oh man with teammates like that enemy all right? Who
started every game in his first three years? Was that Carry?
Or was that me?

Speaker 14 (01:17:08):
I think that's so like some of these are gonna
be designed to get to trip us up. That's gonna
sound like a Dan byer to me.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
I don't I think that that's I think that's Carrie.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
All right, we're gonna need a five answer from.

Speaker 10 (01:17:22):
The team, all right, I'll let Sam have this one.
Let's go with Carry, Let's go with Carrie.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
It is correct. In fact, Cary started with the first
uh for the uh every game in the first four
years of his of his pro football career. So one
for one in that one. That's quite accomplishment right out
the gate. You're starting as a rookie and pulled on
to that starting spot. Yep, it's not too bad. And
then what the next year? Sixteen games again, and then

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in Arizona sixteen games? All right, they're off to a
good start. Carry all right? Who let his league in
fumble recovery tds in this season.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go h opposite side of the
coin here, and I'm gonna go with Dan.

Speaker 10 (01:18:05):
Yeah, that's Dan. I'm gonna say Dan too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Carrie Roads did and yeah led the NFL and fumble
recoveries for tds by a defensive player with the Cardinals.
What did it just fall into your bread box?

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Or you know, I'm one of those guys, Dan, I'm
always around the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
I know you. I'm looking. I'm looking at them by
the accident like this. You know, when you're good, you
make your own luck exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
All right? One of two, one of two, all right?
In his junior year, I had two interceptions. Junior year
had two interceptions. Was it my junior year in high school?
Or was it Carrie's junior year at Louisville.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
I'm gonna say that's Dan.

Speaker 10 (01:18:52):
Yeah, let's say that one of the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Car Carrie had three year at Louisville. But yes, two
picks for an OH to nine Meryl Blue Jays squad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
All right, did you take went back?

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
What did you take it back?

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
No one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
I got completely blind sided, like all of a sudden
turned my head and there's a guard about to level men.
All right, who wore number twelve in school? We're number
twelve in school. I think that was your carry Roads.

Speaker 10 (01:19:27):
I think that's Dan.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
That is correct. All right, you guys are three for four.
But Carrie and I could have something in common. Carrie,
you are what number at Louisville.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
At Louisville, I wore nineteen and one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Number one, so you were atop the program. Yes, we
didn't have single digit numbers. We only had them starting
at twelve. So they asked me what number, and I said,
I want my name first on the program, so I
took twelve. So that's what Carrie Roads and I have
in common. That's our game today. This has been up
on game Carrie, it's been five.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Dan amazing your Saturday YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
But later

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Mhmm.