Mike Harmon & Dan Beyer talk USA vs Sweden, MLB Fight night, and NFL!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Greetings and welcome in. Not often we get live and
in living color reaction. I've had an hour to stalk
the facilities, walk around my car, and take deep breaths
as we lament the early exit for the women's national
team on penalty kicks early this morning. Welcome in. It

(00:26):
is a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday, except for that results
seem beautiful for you. No, well, I mean it's a
good day. I mean I can't find my wallet and
the US loss, but other than that, I woke up.
I'm luckier than well so many.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I saw Isaac in the parking lot and I said
good morning, and he's like, are you sure? Because he
was not happy as well.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
A salted that's the way it goes. I mean, he
broadcasts for Angel City. He's got the the soccer in
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
I still would say tweet. There's no more retweets. It's
all reposting.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Hosts and changing the vernacular. It's not gonna work. It
is what it is like. Staple Center is still it
never became dot com. It is Staple Center. But the
big story today we got so much in the books.
We got you know, the fallout and the college football crumbling, caving, realignment,
some details that over the weekend started to come out

(01:45):
a little more on the financial aspects of things as
related to the PAC twelve and why it went so
wrong so fast. But we talk about the US women's
national team, and it's something Smith and I in our
evening show, me being you know, soccer dad with my
kid and being fully immersed going all the way back
to my days at Yahoo helping with the men's World

(02:08):
Cup website all those years ago, and through her playing
now and Jason having coached his daughter for a while.
We get into this on on maybe a little different
level than than most of your your hosts will across
the network. So I'll do my lamentation if you you'll
indulge me for a few minutes here, Dan. One of

(02:30):
the things you know, you never let it go to
the judges. Right, we had a big boxing match with
the Paul brothers. Between WWE and boxing. You've got just
the idea of finish what you can, right, never let
it go to the judges. For me, it's never let
it go to penalty kicks, which I think is the
worst form of a conclusion to a sport there ever

(02:50):
is other than you know, calling something a tie, which
just still doesn't work for me. But you know, penalty
kicks after the extra period, right, play an extra half
hour of soccer and still nothing decided in this game,
but nil nil, going to penalties and look, I watch

(03:11):
it with my daughter's team. At times the offense, you
get a lot of chances, You have a lot of opportunity,
in this case, a lot of possession for the US,
a bunch of shots you can't find the back of
the net. But you can't expect your defense to pitch
a shutout every time out. And that's where we got
with this women's national team is you had the explosion

(03:31):
from Sophia Smith as the in the group play, but
other than that it's been an awful lot of silence
and crickets for the United States offense. And now they
head out of the match, now out of the tournament.
And now we're watching Netherlands in South Africa. Twenty eight
minutes in one nothing, Netherlands scoring in the ninth minute.
But for the US, the dreams of the three peat

(03:54):
I think Io pat Riley money are gone. And this
is the play that sealed their fate.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Partag waiting the signal. You've gotta be kidding, they're waiting, They're.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Gonna check there, kept hitter being I.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Couldn't talk from here. I thought it was going in,
but it happened so quickly.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Wow, swivelings, big Fox on the call, the save or
what looked to be a save, and then the spin
of the ball back and up and over and an
I mean we're talking waffer thin to steal the old
Monty Python.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I say wafer But that's okay, Yeah, I mean I went.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
With the Brits on it here. Uh, that's it right.
You got the video review that we get to see.
You said no, var, but you've got the technology and
the ball and along the goal line, and the whole
ball's got to go over, and I mean, there's you
can't put a piece of paper between the edge of
the ball and the goal line. Dan.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
It took him a while too for to see that.
Usually it's a lot quicker at Wimbledon, and this was
you were waiting. You were waiting because Alyssa Enaer thought
that she had saved the ball that it did she
was jit it said no, no, And so you're waiting
to see that replay. And the great thing about that
replay not the outcome for you, Mike or for you Isaac.

(05:39):
It's the drama. We knew it was in. But it's
the drama when the graphic is panning at an angle,
like when you're on Google Earth and you go two
D to three D. There's the movement of it and
you're like, how close was it to your point of
like along that line and you're like, okay, it looks out,
looks out, looks out, and then it stops and you're like, wait,

(06:00):
that's in, And it was, and and match over. Great
call by the way, Sweden wins. Just a great line
after the drama and it works on TV as well.
But the US had their opportunities, like there's you know,
you don't want to say the c h o K
E word, but they had opportunities in that penalty, you know, Mike,

(06:21):
Megan Rappino missed her. Sophia Smith had a chance to yes, yes,
and you know, I know that there were opportunities in
extra time. But it's it's a tough one to take.
But as you had talked about it, and you had
said and you had mentioned you and Jason had talked

(06:42):
about this, isn't isn't this the way that it was
going to end? Right? That's your that's your point. And
when you see opportunities missed, like it's it's just not
gonna happen. You can do this, and can do this
to any sport. Runners on second and third nobody out
and you don't score, You're like, well that is going

(07:03):
to cost us. That's going to come back now obviously
not to the drama of you have the opportunity to
win a a match at the World Cup in advance
to the quarterfinals sort of miss that's just when you
have Really it's two opportunities Rapinas at the time, Sweden
still would have had life, but it kept them back

(07:27):
in it. It would have kept the pressure completely on
Sweden for having to make the remainder of their kicks
and hoping for a US miss. But Rapinos missed open
the door. Smith's miss would have would have, you know,
clinched it, and they just missed.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Hits the post, yes, right, three times three misses, no
saves to sail over the top, and O'Hara hits the
post when the only guesses of the net right, And
that's you know, kind of talking it out, having watched
way too many of these things in youth soccer, and
the drama is certainly there, right. You go to these

(08:05):
big tournaments, a lot of parents and grandparents and everybody
is there along the sideline. There's an energy that goes
over into this whole other thing. But oftentimes it's not
a matter of the goalie making some great sprawling stay
save and occasionally you do, but for the most part,
it's a you hit wide because you tried to be
perfect to the upper corners or to the lower corners,

(08:28):
or you know, you sail it over the top, as
we saw with both Smith and Rapino, and then you know,
for the United States, Nayor gets her hand on the
ball but not enough enough spin to go over the
line and the way you go. The one thing the
US did, I mean controlled possession right, nearly sixty percent

(08:49):
of possession time, a lot of shots on goal. Sweden
they had to make eleven saves, so I mean you
got attack and you can't finish like that. That was
the consistent thing, right, the speed at which the United
States was able to play, you know, those breakouts of
years past, not there any longer for crisp opportunities. But defensively,

(09:12):
the US did a great job of Sweden coming into
the match like they dominated, like their their calling card
was on set plays. United States only allowed three corners
to them, so limiting those big potential blows and what
they'd been so successful through the group phase and throughout

(09:33):
all international competitions, so set themselves up in the best
chance you needed one and you couldn't get one. And
we watched the struggles to find that clear shot and goal.
A couple of times in the group stage you had
runs as like no offside pretty clearly. And that technology
is all other thing, yep. You could see the point

(09:54):
of the elbow is ahead of the last defender, so
it's it's a whole other math. I mean, I wish
you had that. Yeah, yeah, it's all of those like
it's just a it's a game of inches literally. Uh.
And now they go home, they reset. Look, they were
missing a lot of players because of injuries, would be
stars like Macario. Uh. But it doesn't matter, right, it's

(10:18):
all for not uh and for some of these women
that this is probably the last big dance on the
international stage. You've got some that will try to cling on.
I have no doubt. I did not say cling on.
So don't get those treky's all at me, but try to,
you know, keep keep moving because I mean that's what
you've known, right, And rip the jersey, rip the kit

(10:40):
off me at the end of it. But just one
of those crushers for me. You know, this family, extended
family in Sweden on on my my ex wife's side
and all all of that. So there's that that extra
juice to this match. Uh. And so it's a tough
loss for the US and ends what has been a

(11:00):
spectacular era.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
If it works, if it would have worked out, if
it let's say, we're piano scores smith scores done on pks,
was it was it just a matter of time though?
Does it happen in the quarters. Does it happen in
the semis? Was it just a matter of time for

(11:24):
this to happen?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
To this?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
See my old US wishing, wanting, hoping was saying this
was the best game they played by far out of
what they did in the group stage into this like
this was the most we've seen US women's like soccer.
So you would have hoped that momentum would carry. But
watching some of these other teams with the way they're
just rolling, and watching Japan and what they did, and

(11:48):
you see Netherlands rolling, it's a different step up in class.
I don't know if they it's score with them. The
other thing is go win your group because then you're
not in this position and facing sure, absolutely take care
of your business early, you know, and don't playing and
wish and hope. Set yourself up for the best position possible.

(12:11):
This is the old you know, playoff seeding jockeying that
we we will get into as we go through the
NFL season, and we do it for the NBA probably
more than anything of who do you want to play,
who do you want to avoid? In short series, et cetera.
This is one where you could have avoided Sweden, but
here we are on the short end.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
And you never obviously want to lose. That's a that's
an obvious statement. But to the point of I think
that there there are times where you may be crushed
by a loss or there may be a play. You know,
just just in my in my fandom, Mike, when Ohio
State lost to Clemson in the Fiesta Bowl a few
years back, when Sean Wade got ejected for the targeting

(12:53):
on Trevor Lawrence kind of spurred Clemson's comeback and then
Justin Fields through the interception and the end zone on
him and Olave weren't on the same page that one,
like that one burned, like that one was like man,
But then you think about it, You're like, would they
have beaten LSU in the National Championship game because LSU
was a machine that year with Joe Burrow, And you're like, Okay,

(13:16):
maybe it would have. Maybe that was just the unstoppable force.
You would like the opportunity and you would like to believe.
But there's also times that you're saying, maybe that was
and maybe that's the case of the US. If it
wasn't going to be against Sweden in this match, it
maybe could have been in the quarters, could have been
in the semis. Still a tough way to no doubt,
and it's going to be remembered. And I actually think

(13:38):
that for how much conversation there was about the reset,
you talk about players wanting to hang on if you
make a run to the finals, I think they're more
apt to hang on, but you because we were so close,
we're almost there. But now you get ousted in the
round of sixteen, it's a different message and it gives
you more of a reason to maybe hit that reset

(14:00):
and move on to a different era.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, and as you're talking, I mean, you've got what
four or five players that were not available for this tournament.
But it goes back to that. You know, first match
going up against Vietnam, it was a three nil win,
a lot of shots, but it didn't feel right right,
It didn't feel crisp, and part of it I think
needs to be a reevaluation of how you come together

(14:23):
for these moments. I mentioned Ilo doing work for Angel
City in the National Women's Soccer League. They basically said,
all right, you come from all over the globe, we'll
get out of flight here and head across the world.
You're not doing months long training camps you're not getting
to know. And they integrated a bunch of young players.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
We've got the old stalwarts we talk about Alex Morgan
and Rapino and such, but you've got a lot of
new faces that you're trying to integrate. Get that timing,
and you can't tell me that happens over a couple
of days, right, And you've got a coach who, let's
face it, not exactly the most expressive uh in terms,

(15:06):
and I like each team is going to respond to
guys as they will. But you win three nil over
Vietnam and we watch them just get absolutely rolled in
other matches. You have the one to one tie with
Netherlands and then a scoreless draw with Portugal. Like you
weren't going to suddenly get yourself into a track meet,

(15:26):
we can outscore you. Kind of situation. And that was
pretty evident from the opening minutes of certainly the Netherlands game,
unless you want to go back to the Vietnam game
and look at chances and shots squandered. But yeah, did
it seem inevitable? Sure, but you know you just want
a chance.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
It doesn't mean that, it doesn't mean that, it doesn't hurt,
and that's usually to Mike, it's hindsight when you're looking
back on it, and it's also a way to make
you feel better about a little better about the loss,
maybe like it just wasn't our team, you know, may
or maybe that team was just so good there was
nothing that we could do. But still in the moment,
you would like a shot, You would like that opportunity

(16:07):
to get there.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, I get that, and I know people are gonna
dance on their loss. I mean, certainly Megan Rapino a
very polarizing figure in the larger sporting and outside the
sporting world. When you start talking about you know, her
bat battles, you know, equal pay and gender equity, and
go on down the line. I know there's been a

(16:30):
lot of commentators that will revel in this. This wasn't
about that they just couldn't score, Like there's nothing about
the Kubris about arrogance. When they celebrated getting through the group,
you know what succeed and proceed. I'm a big guy
of you know, if if I advanced to the playoffs,
I may get ousted in round one, But damn it,
we made it. We fought through a long season and

(16:50):
we got through.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
I'll just say say this to that point, I think
that the the angst gets turned up maybe two eleven,
you know, on that when maybe there was the macs,
that maybe there's a little bit more because of that.
But I do think Mike, you know, I use the
words c hok. I don't want to say it, but

(17:15):
when you talk about the opportunities in how it played out,
it's just difficult for me because they made their first three.
Yeah it was it was their Sweden misses, and now
it's advantage us, and then you miss your next two
and allow Sweden in Sweden when their backs were against
the wall at least on the final pe kick, the

(17:38):
PK kick of their penalty kick of the round of
the first five, they needed to make their last one
otherwise it was over right and they did. Us needed
to make theirs prior and they went and they didn't.
And that's what it comes down to.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Multiple opportunities to to finish it off, and certainly for me,
the post is the one that's gonna That one hurts
the most, Like obviously in the game flow and what
you could have clinched, but you know, there's nothing worse
than you guess completely wrong, and I found the post.
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Speaker 2 (19:38):
Got that, you know, early morning vitriol and I think
a pretty astute observational analysis of the US women's national
team being sent home in penalty kicks by the team
from Sweden. O'Hara, that's that's the one, because she also
substituted in very late. So hey, come on in, now,

(19:58):
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We just saw some of the exit interviews from players,
tears in their eyes as you would expect. But the
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com slash matched Dan. Last week we talked a lot
about the Big twelve and big doings and change. In
the Big Twelve, you had your your whiteboard out. You
were putting everybody into their region. We could do the pods.
And now we get to the next iteration. The end

(21:02):
of the week. I take Friday off to take my
daughters to Taylor Swift and all hell breaks loose.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
We have to get that story, by the way, at
some point in this show. It truly was a tremendous jacket.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
You want to talk, Yeah, you want to talk about
a conversation starter I got fim.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
The top top of the next hour.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, well, we'll do a little bit of a breakdown
of that. But the so I take the day off
and all of a sudden, the Pac twelve just crumbles
all together. We knew Colorado was leaving uh. And then
you had the Oregon head coach, Dan Lanney. He took
his shot. He's like, well, you know, they're not so important,
et cetera. And that was Thursday. He made that like
you've been there for one season. You shut up, like

(21:42):
you got no history here. Just because you got hired there.
It doesn't make you the mouthpiece. You might as well
try it out. Mike Bollati. He at least has some
legs in the conference. You're like, you're a one year
guy and you're throwing shade at what Colorado.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
That's what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
So you try to try to make yourself a hero
in that process. But on Friday we get the news
and like no shock that, you know, the next dominoes
to fall Oreon and Washington will head to what will
become the Big twenty. Really glad I registered that domain
name and the big B number one G twenty dot com.

(22:24):
Harmon squatting on that one, waiting for his analysis to go.
But in the interim you got Washington and their president
just said, look, we need a stability, and a lot
came out in the last forty eight hours because there
were rumors and we talked about it would have been
Thursday Night about Apple and the potential play for media
rights for the PAC twelve, and all the initial reports

(22:47):
had the idea that there was a linear i e.
Old school television attachment, i e. Apple's gonna pay this,
but they can still sell off pieces to Fox and ESPN.
Over the weekend that was ilarified. Two that didn't exist.
That it was here's the deal, a baseline deal from
Apple with a lot of wishing, wanting, hoping that you'll

(23:09):
find traction and more people will get involved and due
to the popularity, we can charge more and the rights
go up. And as we know in the streaming world,
it's been for many of these companies a blood bath
in terms of what it costs to produce content versus
what they're bringing in from a subscriber base now that
we've got the fractionalized app world and streaming world. But

(23:33):
for the PAC twelve and for Washington, they just looked
at it and just very matter of factly said, this
is about stability, and that's one thing you know you
have with the big ten.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yes, And I think that is the key point in
all of this. The PAC twelve didn't die on Friday.
The PAC twelve died the day that USC and UCLA
left for the Big Ten. Sure that it was a
matter of time. And if you want to point and say, well, look,
the Big Think twelve survived without Oklahoma and Texas remaining

(24:04):
in that league, that's fine. But the schools and the
just the sheer location mic And you may say, why
does location matter when now the Big Ten stretches from
New Jersey all the way to southern California and up
to the Pacific Northwest. There is no way that the
pac twelve was going to be able to survive in

(24:25):
any form once those two schools left. They could have
hung around for a while, but at some point it
was just inevitable that if you were Oregon, or you
were Washington, or you were another school, you were going
to be looking for the greener pastures of the Big
Ten or the SEC or maybe even in this case,

(24:46):
the Big Twelve at some point. But the day that
those schools left USC and UCLA was what really ended it.
There was no way it was going to be viable.
There aren't other schools that you can add, especially location
one eyes in the West, that are going to make
a difference. One of the great things with the Big
Twelve has really been the emergence of you know, Central

(25:09):
Florida over this last twenty years. Sure of that being
of like a school, like there's no school out west
that you're saying like, okay, well that's the sleeping giant,
that's the one that could really do something. And so
when the Big twelve expands, not that it's all about
Central Florida because it's not. There just weren't any other options.
How is the PAC twelve going to get better if

(25:32):
you added San Diego State and SMU just wasn't going
to And so so the stability comment is one hundred
percent accurate. Just took him a while to finally agree
to it. And I know that the other member institutions
feel stabbed in the back that it ended up kind
of being Oregon in Washington's movement, even though Arizona seemed

(25:55):
like they were a while yeah to move on in
the When USC AT U, c l A left for
the Big Ten, that's the day the PAC twelve died.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, I mean I would trace it back to perhaps
even just going to the media rights when you watch
with the SEC and what the Big ten were doing.
The largest of those contracts not to mention the land grab.
Going back to what you're saying before, right, you get
the Florida markets, you pull, you pull them in. You

(26:26):
know when you talk about central Florida for the Big ten,
I mean it always was odd, right, going back to
when penn State came in and then Rutgers. But you're
grabbing New York. You're grabbing Pennsylvania like you you're spanning
c to sea, coast to coast, and now you grab
southern California with the history that you have. And look

(26:46):
at U c. L A, Basketball and everything else more
than the football side. That's where you know, this gets
a little wonky when you start talking about non basketball
and football sports and where you know, you start doing
a little bit of handwringing about what happens when we're
talking about student athletes, that term that became a pejorative

(27:07):
for so many years heading into the nil and even
now you still got fights on Congress and you know,
now we're we're watching the whole conferences shutter in a
matter of days, like long leaning right, it's then it's
inevitably gonna fall like that tree out in your yard.
You're watching it rot, You're like I can go pull

(27:27):
it down, I get chop it up. But it's kind
of cool watching it go inch by inch by inch
and then finally you hear the crack and down it goes.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
I'll say this, one of the points has been what
about the other sports? Because this is football driven? But
how is it gonna affect all of the other athletic
departments around and and another. There there were comments made
by Eli Drinkwitz, the Missouri head football coach, and know
we're gonna hear from him, I believe later on in

(27:56):
the show, and just the comments that he made. But Mike,
there's there is a part of it where this movement
is already going on. You know, when when college baseball
is played, unless you are playing indoors in the in
the Upper Midwest, which very few teams have those facilities,

(28:17):
You're going to play tournaments in Florida, You're going off
to play tournaments in Arizona, You're going off to play
tournaments in California. Though like those, it's not every sport.
But I don't think it's as dire as the picture
that is being painted. I figure that they will figure
it out in some way, but it's not it's not

(28:39):
just this. Oh my goodness, how is this going to happen?
Teams travel a lot. I think you're playing you know,
you're playing golf in the you know, middle of February
and in Minnesota. No, it's not happening.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, but there were a lot of Pac twelve softball
players in particular that came up on on social media
talking about, hey, I picked this place because the family like, Okay,
well you got to You're you're on a plane an
extra forty minutes right to your point, right, like, you're
still traveling for games. It's one more time zone. Okay, sleep, sleep,

(29:14):
I get it. It's important. Trust me, as a guy
who's physically and mentally had his challenges because of his
inability to sleep and and get his brain to relax,
I recognize that quite well. It's uh, it does not
come without a cost. But you know, when we're we're
talking about the overall viability of these things, schedules can

(29:35):
be worked. You got in theory a lot of smart
people figuring this out.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
You know, I'm just just taking a look. My alma
mater is Wisconsin. The Wisconsin softball team opened up their
season in early February. With a series in Port Varta.
They then ended up playing about four or five games
in Atlanta, Georgia. They then ended up playing four or
five games in Boca Raton in Florida. They were gone

(30:01):
the entire month of February on the road in these
warm weather climates. Now, UCLA Arizona, Arizona, well, let's just
say UCLA one of the top softball programs you know
throughout history. There's their travel may be affected now because
now what's going to happen in April and May conference wise,

(30:24):
But like there are a lot of other schools that
were traveling in February. In March, they were just coming down. Yes, yes, well,
but that's what changes.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
But that's it, right, that's the dirty little secret. We
could talk about the the players and their schedules and
mental health, but the home field advantage, the time zone advantage,
all of those things create a little bit more of
a level playing field.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
So not something that necessarily the students are going to
ponder immediately, but certainly administration is.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
My point is not to poo pooh their complaints because
I think they're legitimate complaints, and I think that there
are legitimate concerns My point is this isn't as foreign
as they're trying to make it seem. That is my
point is there's a way to work it out, and
there may be some extra stuff, but it's not like
some of these teams don't travel. And I know for

(31:17):
each sport, Mike, it's different. But in some of these
sports that we talk about and that we you know,
we hear about on a larger scale, more people are
going to be affected. But it's not like no one
was affected by this prior because they were so.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Giant moving organism. Will keep on this as the show continues.
Some other angles and decisions, because how soon does my
school get relegated? We'll talk about that as the show
goes on. It was once a punchline maybe two three
months a year ago. Now well maybe maybe, uh, there's

(31:54):
something that could be in play. We've also got some
fantasy football for you as the show goes on. Mike
Rman Dan Byer with you here on Fox Sports Sunday.
But now it's time to continue the lamentation of the
defeat of the women's national team with our guy Isaac Lohencron,
who looks like he's just forrepped. Yeah, okay there, buddy.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Hi. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Now I think actually the quote was I said good
morning to Isaac and he goes, you mean bad morning.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
That's the line, and the reason, indeed, is because Sweden
eliminated Team USA from the Women's World Cup today in
the round of sixteen and a penalty kick shootout, scoreless
after regulation and ot Sweden won the shootout five to four,
the shootout winning goal making it over the line by
the margin of a gene Sterotare index card. Now, earlier fellas,

(32:45):
you played the call of the Sweden shootout winning goal
and the var review to confirm it on Fox. Here
is how it sounded on the Swedish broadcast. See this
is the call on radio Sporting, which I assume in
Swedish means radio sports. Anyway, you're gonna hear the play

(33:08):
they think they won, then the confusion while they wait
for the v A R and then the ultimate celebration.
Here it is how they heard it in Sweden.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Did we have a Hicks dramatic.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
That's their host. Let me scroll for a little bit.
Sorry about that, all right?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
He just eliminated all noise, not background, and.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
Focus on not much drama.

Speaker 8 (33:35):
He that's that nigid in that Gordian and Borghi du
Mont store will put off them a boardroom.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
That istitis, it's gotta be.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
That's great.

Speaker 7 (34:18):
And in English, apparently Google Transit says that translates into
do you believe in miracles?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (34:23):
Anyway, it's the earliest team USA has ever been eliminated
from the Women's World Cup. In Major League Baseball, Saturday night,
the Seattle Mariners one over the Angels in Anaheim, three
to two. Mariners of one twelve of sixteen. Padre scored
seven of the bottom of the eighth for an eight
three win over the Dodgers. White Sox won in Cleveland
seven and four, bench clearing brawl in the sixth inning
between the White Sox Tim Anderson in Cleveland's Jose Ramirez,

(34:46):
leading to six total ejections.

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(36:27):
in the sporting universe and it's increased insurance premiums by
the number of pickleball weekend warns. An estimate by UBS
analysts say that two hundred and fifty to five hundred

(36:47):
million dollars will be tied up in emergency room visits,
clinic visits, doctor visits, surgeries because of pickleball injuries.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
The HBO Real Sports maybe a year ago did a
did a good piece on pickleball, and it truly is
taking over. There's a tennis club near where I live.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Uh, And.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I'm gonna be honest, it's right by the Domino's Pizza.
So I I that's that's.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Well, that's how I know. You gotta have a landmark
right just yet. So I tell my daughter she's learning
to drive. You gotta learn to do it without all
the navigation, like all of that stuff. You gotta have
a landmark.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Well, it just it sounded really snobbish by saying there's
a tennis club where I live, and I just, I
just I couldn't live with myself. I had to be honest.
It's right by the dominoes. They have good carryout deals.
So that's how I know this.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's a victory.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
The the times that I would park and go and
get get the food. You could see through the see
through the fence, Mike, and you could see tennis courts.
And now when you park, all you hear is because
they've been all the like, not all the tennis courts,
but a lot of the tennis courts have been replaced
by pickleball courts within that club. And I know that

(38:13):
that is not that club is not alone throughout this country.
So it does not surprise me that that there are
injuries because I think it looks like it's easy, just
like when you think, like.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Oh, just a bigger version of table tennis.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Sure I can run a forty yard dash even though
I haven't done it in fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
And then by hamstring exactly, the meniscus, all of that. Yeah,
So off of this survey, the UBS survey, they say
one third of the nearly twenty two million. And that's
you know, put an asterisk. We're doing estimations our seniors,
and they're saying, in generally affluent, i'd the household income

(38:57):
more than one hundred thousand. But here's the here's the
data that I up predicting for the year ahead. Sixty
seven thousand emergency department trips. So you can think about that.
You know, say you got off the couch, someone said
to go play pick a ball. You haven't done anything
in a while. You know, it's the old Homer Simpson
and the occasional heart attack that comes with shoveling snow. Yeah,

(39:17):
that's what you have. Three hundred and sixty six thousand
outpatient visits, eighty eight hundred outpatient surgeries, forty seven hundred hospitalizations,
and twenty thousand post acute episodes. Well don't know what
that means, but yeah, they're saying. They're saying, somewhere in
the vicinity of four hundred million dollars is the guess

(39:39):
of what it's going to cost in healthcare.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
I joked about the forty yard dash. I am being
serious about this. You want to know what really leaves
you when you haven't done that activity for a while.
The ability to stop, like when you're going for something
and diving. And that's where I think injuries are is
you're going for a ball, maybe out of reach, and

(40:01):
you just keep going and you end up falling, breaking
your collar bone injuring your hip. That's where I think
like these injuries happen in addition to all the knees,
achilles and quad muscles.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Oh, attempting that abrupt stop. Oh, your body doesn't do
it anymore.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
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that gifts keeps on going, right. It's the end of
the summer coming up here, Dan, a lot of weddings,
maybe some child you know, baptisms that you're heading to
and all of that. You know what, here's a card,
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(41:43):
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Speaker 3 (41:46):
It's also free, the point.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yes, free, free, free, get in there and sell, sell, sell.
So lot's going on in the sporting world. Obviously still
in the immediate aftermath the chaos with the United States
women's national team being sent home in the round of
sixteen losing on penalty kicks to Sweden. I'm gonna hear

(42:09):
about it. I'm sure as people are waking up family
members to give me grief with my ex wife's side
of things, being from Sweden, very good relationship with her folks.
So we'll exchange some soccer notes a little bit later
on and maybe he could translate her dad can translate
with that. Announcer said word for word that we heard

(42:31):
last hour with Ilo. But a big week and Friday night,
and we referenced it last hour. It's like I got
to go to Sofi. No football game, but something of
a grand magnitude, the Taylor swift Eras tour, part of
a six day extravaganza here in Los Angeles, and blessed

(42:52):
and capable and really lived it up with these Swifties
on Friday night, das so was that the first show.
A second one they did Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Okay, and then Friday night. Now, not to reveal too much,
but as of last week, your two girls were gonna
go yeah, and you were going to be on the
outside looking in. How did you end up getting in?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Well, the wonderful world of the secondary marketing, all right,
there is what everybody loves.

Speaker 7 (43:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Look, I sent out all the begging, pleading messages, thinking, hey,
I'm quote you know talent, and iHeart media. Someone's got
to be able to help me. Nah, company told me
to beat it.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
So but yeah, I have no problem with that, and
I actually can appreciate that. I know when we were talking,
you were like, you know, maybe the girls would go
into the stadium and you'd hang out, but there's some
rules in California that don't allow you to hang out
in the parking lot, so you maybe you'd go to
a local establishment while the show was going on. And

(43:58):
then the next thing I know, I see you all
glammed out. I was ready in the gear and in
the arena, if you will, and so I was very
very happy for you. And I think it's worth it.
I think this is this is I look back and
I wonder, all right, in twenty thirty five, when CNN

(44:19):
does their retrospective on the twenty twenties, what is going
to happen in twenty twenty three, What are the things
that those you know, that everybody's going to talk about.
And this tour, I think is going to be one
of the things that you look back at ten, twelve,
fifteen years back and say, remember that, remember, and that
was just the hottest thing going on and you got

(44:41):
to be a part of it. And so I think
it's absolutely worth it.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
I'll tell you what, I debated going again yesterday. That's
how much I enjoyed it. Really, it really was something.
It was about a five to five and a half
hour affair between the opening acts, and she does over
three hours, so learning at the feet of the masters
of Springsteen and Cartney and all these bands that do
mega sets, and so it's the Aras Tour. So it's

(45:05):
a couple of songs from each of the albums, different
backgrounds and lots of lots of theatrics on the stage.
But it really just a great community. Like to do
all the friendship bracelets, so that my daughters and I
were while watching movies, hanging out during the day on
their home for summer, we built friendship bracelets and we're
exchanging with people, We're hearing where they're from. Folks coming

(45:27):
from Canada from all over to try and get tickets
because obviously it's an elusive, highly priced thing once you
hit the secondary market, Like I paid more from my
standing room only ticket than I paid for my daughter's
tickets to get in combined. I got lucky when they
did the bot throwout all those months ago with the

(45:50):
ticket Master thing, we were able to buy two at face.
Probably could have sold it and had a nice early
in vacation, but legitimately got in and wearing and for
those that haven't seen it at Swollen Dome across Socials,
glitter hat and I'd procured a seth Rollins WWE inspired

(46:12):
glitter heart jacket, one of those where you can rub
it up and down. It's silver on one side, red
on the other, and it's got hearts and all. And
so that was a very popular thing to come and
feel me up, which was getting kind of weird. After all,
I think people were playing tic tac toe on my
back in the merch line. No, it was great. I
mean I talked to more people in one night, I

(46:33):
joked with a friend of mine than I usually do
it about two months. That's that was the kind of night, right,
making friends in the merch line and all of those things.
But literally yesterday right the girls were off doing their thing.
My daughter has started a nurse's assistant program, and then
the younger one had some things with friends, and I'm
looking around and starting to get towards time, and I'm

(46:55):
tired by the time I got out of that parking
lot and everything, I didn't get home to like two
thirty in the morning, coming in Saturday morning. But I'm like,
let's see what tickets are going for. And I saw
that SROs were actually a little lower than what I
paid on Friday. I'm like, like, no, I don't have it.
Like the girls aren't with me in some capacity, it
wasn't going to be the same. So we're just eyeing

(47:16):
Dublin for next June. Oh wow, Yeah, we're gonna do
We're gonna do it in style for my daughter's sixteenth
and make that part. We were going to plan to
go to Ireland to visit some of the heritage next
year anyway. But yeah, last night she actually did. She
does like an acoustics surprise two songs. Some people have

(47:37):
been tracking it and they've been playing fantasy games. We'll
get the fantasy football here in a few minutes, but
they've been tracking them and trying to predict and she
played yesterday, We're like two of my favorite songs. So no, no, no,
Yesterday Friday, we got our song and second ones Escaping Me.

(48:01):
But yesterday where's two of my favorite Death by a
thousand Cuts and the fun and exciting. You're on your own, kid,
and you always have been. Which is the shirt I
was actually wearing the Tailor's swift shirt on Friday. That's
the tagline on the shirt because it gets down to it.
A lot of people come in and out of your lives,

(48:21):
and you would address as you can and try to
be the best you can, but in the end, you
got yourself.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
There was there was an act that my wife and
I went and saw a few years ago, and we
had such a great time at the concert. It was
really really enjoyable, and we said, you know, the next
time they come to town, we're gonna go. I'm not
gonna say the act. And it was the same act

(48:47):
that they did a few years ago. It's a band
of the been around a while, so they're they're playing
their hits and it was Mike. It was so much
so that my favorite song by them, It was so
exact that it was the second song that they played
in both shows. So you knew that, all right, not
much didn't change now for them, and for the people

(49:09):
that are going, it wasn't a you know, nobody in
the arena, nobody else probably really even realized it. But
for me it was a little less. And it's stuff
like that that makes it intriguing. I had no idea.
My wife's a big U two fan, and so when
we were dating, she had we had gone to some
concerts and she had tried to tell me some of

(49:30):
the things that are going, you know that that can happen,
and the song forty by You two is one that
they don't play at every concert. And what I did
not realize was that there are shows where you got
the forty show like that was like that was a
big deal. I had people different reach out to me

(49:50):
yeah and say like, oh my, oh my goodness, you
are so lucky you got to go, you know, because
you know, you two would do you know, three nights
in LA and on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Maybe
the forty show was the Saturday. You know, it wasn't
gonna but that was something built in and so that's
what makes it very very unique. And I think that's great.
I think the three hours are great. I think the

(50:12):
little they're not an Easter egg, but something to be like, Okay,
which ones are gonna be ours? What are the two
they're gonna be? All of that works and it's why
it's such a phenomenon. I mean, like the music or
don't like the music, you have to appreciate the hustle
like it is. And then it has done so well.
And then the other thing I was just gonna say
is I remember this from Super Bowl fifty four, was

(50:34):
the j Lo Shakira halftime the.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Greatest halftime show in the super Bowl's history, hands down.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
He loved it, huh, absolutely great. What I loved about
it was how the people loved it, especially Shakira, like
the fans that were in the stands, that they were
going crazy about it. That's what I appreciated. I might
not have known the songs or loved the songs, but
when you see the other people going crazy about it,
that's the vibe. And I can imagine that it was

(51:04):
probably times one hundred like well and that.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
And that's the thing, right, is that you just have
everybody that knows these and they're screaming them. They're not
singing them, they're screaming them at the top of their lungs,
which is kind of funny. A couple of the folks
that were around me, it's like, you're not even attempting
to sing anywhere near on key, but you just fired
up to be there.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
I know you got s ros and I'm not sure
where the you know, where the seats were. But in
some of your videos that I saw on social media
and on TikTok and whatnot, like these, everyone is dressed
to the nines. Yeah it's yeah, well, and that's just it.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
That was my whole thing. It's like, if we're going
to go in, we're gonna lean all the way into it.
And the glitter thing. My daughters, we've laughed forever. It's
like I missed my calling, as it would be WWE
wrestling manager or being out in front of a stage
somewhere else. I have it here, but I don't know
that that camera works all the time as you and

(52:00):
Nice City are on a Sunday morning game. But just
the idea of that energy that you know group, I
don't know that community that came together, right, people dressed
from the different whatever their favorite albums were, They picked
out song lyrics and did costumes accordingly. You know, You've
gotten me with the heart jackets. So it's like you've

(52:21):
got the album Lover, You've got the Heartbreak. You know, Prince,
You've got the It's like, which one are you? I'm like, well,
what do you need tonight? You know? That was my
response and it went over well. I got pretty good
at the extemporaneous random people that were half in the
bag asking me questions about the outfit. But that was it. Like,
it's just you know, and I've talked about it a

(52:41):
lot with you, Dan and those that have listened to
any anything I've done here at Fox Sports Radio live
events to me or are everything right? Most of the
rest of the world energy, it's divisive, it's polarizing, and
sporting events, yeah, you got a little of that, but
you're still there to celebrate a game, right. You may

(53:02):
hate the other team, you may hate players on that
team for any myriad reasons, but you're still there in
celebration of a sport and these things. It's your favorite songs,
your communal singing. It's like, you know, we joked about
making what would be the book according to Taylor right,
taking it like a hymndal because you've got most of
the set list, which is pretty much the same, and

(53:24):
then you've got those secret songs. So those are the
blank pages in the back. But like everybody's on board
and the energy is just positive and everybody's looking to
help each other out. How did you get your tickets?
You know, what's your favorite? Something like you just can't
match that. And that's where I love going to games
when I get the opportunity. You guys were at rams
Camp the other day. There's something special about being in

(53:45):
the mix camp.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Taylor Swift say no, but just from.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
The point of you're immersed into a place and a
space where there's just all that energy is going in
the same direction. Yes, boy, just to pull it together. Yes,
Rams Camp did not have seventy thousand people, but it's
just that idea.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
I also, you know, saw this on the local news,
and I'm sure throughout the tour every local news had
a field day of speaking with fans in line. And
you know, there's a girl who's there that went last
night and she said, you know, I also have tickets
for Tuesday. It reminded me of golf tournaments. You know,
you said the US opening ton and you know here
in La A couple months back. And while it's old

(54:29):
hat for me, someone like you, not the hugest golf
fan that's going to travel around the country, but you know,
you're there on a Tuesday, you're there on a Sunday,
or they're checking out on different days because there are
different things going on and it allows you to see
different things. And so so I get all that. I
love all that. I think it's I think it's great.
I think it's great to experience it and then then
you could play it out how you want to play out.

(54:51):
And yeah, I mean it truly is a phenomenon, Like
we use that word sometimes, maybe a little bit too loosely,
but to see how how everyone is responding these lines
of merchandise really really crazy.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, I mean look good for you to go well,
but generally I go to events like that and I
start seeing just the dollar signs and I see people
as all right, the average get in plus their merch
plus whatever, and it doesn't matter. It's a machine, yeah,
and you buy in, and it's a cultural phenomenon. You
talked about the retrospective in twenty thirty five. This year,
From an entertainer's perspective, there's three things. Barbie Oppenheimer, Taylor Swiszer.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I tell people all the time, if you've never been
to Augusta National, do not shy away from the secondary
market ticket price. If you can go, if you don't,
if you aren't lucky enough to win the lottery, it
is a story that you will continue to tell for
the rest of your life. It may be four digits
for the ticket, for the grounds pass for a day.
It's worth it. It truly is. If you're a golf fan,

(55:49):
like it is money that is so well spent. We
talk a lot about fantasy football or pools that you're in.
I've even had this discussion Jason Steworty, executive producer The
Gottlieb Show. We're in a baseball sort of thing, and
he says, you know what, I don't know. I don't
have to I don't have to come out ahead on it.
He goes, if it occupies my attention span for three

(56:10):
or four months, that's that's worth the money putting in
the entertainment.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Absolutely, Maybe you don't, maybe you don't win the grand prize.
Maybe it just falls short. Either way, if it was,
if if that entrance was able to occupy you and
keep you interested. Then it's well worth the money. And
there's certain things that Yeah, on the surface, the number
is jarring, but when you have a lifetime of stories
to tell, you go to Augusta National anytime you go

(56:37):
golfing and if you have a Master's hat on somebody
like you've been on the Master's you say yes, and
then you just start talking about like it's it just it.
It pays itself over and over again.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Oh where my black hoodie that I bought the other day?
Next week of the Taylor Swift experience, you'll go to
somebody will.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Find you, you know, in line for a coffee. Do
you go to the hill?

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You like?

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(57:22):
whether it's on the highways and byways and backtrails of
hiking's your thing. Go do it, find out. We'll probably
smoke some meat. You can do that too. That always
brings people together, no question about it. Coming up next,
we get into the fantasy realm as we ponder running backs.
Alvin Kamaraz suspended, We still have holdouts. What's it mean?

(57:43):
Where do you find some value on your draft board?
By the way, everybody in the room already doing drafts.
So it is that time of year, people, and we'll
celebrate it next year on Fox. The best there is,
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(58:06):
I've already completed two drafts. I have a guillotine league
starting later on today. You had your draft yesterday. Jay
said he had his draft yesterday. And Sam's just trying
to cobble together a unit from Iowa that isn't going
to get caught up in a gambling scandal. That's kind

(58:29):
of where we're asking. Oh it's true. Yes, I'm a
Northwestern guy. I got many a rant about the way
things have been done, and I've got a lot of
questions about the back and forth and legal process there,
But for fantasy football, I mean it's the research time,
the podcasts and everything, the magazines on the stands, the

(58:51):
pomp and circumstances that are there with the arrival of
training camp. Hard Knocks Episode one tomorrow we have the
Hall of Fame game. You got through your first draft.
This is the one we talked about a couple of
weeks ago, trying to get everybody together. How did it
end up playing out?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
It's just really weird when you have an early draft
to wait a month for the season to go like
it really is like Thursday night. Yeah, it kind of
got you a little bit closer to football, but still
not in football mode. I'll be honest. I felt like
I took one for the team, and I feel like
a couple of the other guys who couldn't make the

(59:30):
get together right took one for the team. And if
you're just listening to the show, the dilemma about a
month or two ago that Mike and I were discussing
was our fantasy football league has been together. This is
our twenty sixth season, and the weekend of the draft
is the only excuse for some of the guys to
get away from their families for a weekend like it

(59:52):
is because we have been doing it for so long.
The family say okay, the wife gives permission. All right,
it's the annual thing, you know about it, and if
you were to ever break it and not go, it's
like it's over with, Like you don't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
No, sure, you got to keep that continuity.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
And this was the only weekend where the guys that
were going to get together could get together. And that's
me being they're all back in the Midwest, so some
are coming from Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Wisconsin, like all in
that area, so there's drives for some. That's why we
decided yesterday to have the draft. So it's very weird

(01:00:29):
in that aspect of being a month out and having.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
It because now there's a lot of holding your breath
with each training camp report yea positive negative, We'll get
deeper into real versus imagine because there's some important distinctions
right people are tweeting it's like, oh no, this guy
did this again. It's like, hold on, let's find context
of it all. But also the hey, that guy just
pulled up, that guy just walked to the cart. That

(01:00:53):
guy is like, okay, I drafted him in the fourth round.
What do I got?

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I don't know if you remember, but there were a
lot there was a lot of hype about Alvin Kamara
when he was drafted by the Saints out of Tennessee,
and there was a lot of hype about him in
the in training camp. And remember I think they wouldn't
play the Chargers. I think that's it was at the
at the complex, the old stub Hub Center.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Sure, and broke off like a sixty yard run or
something like that in the preseason game. And I think
after that, like Sean Payton didn't play Kamara, but like
your draft value in that preseason game, Mike just immediately
shot up. Sure, but we had had and I can't
remember exactly when it was. All I know is I

(01:01:41):
had drafted Kamara like in the twelfth round prior to
that run happening, And so I was fortunate because now
people are seeing that run in the like, Wow, Camara
is really emerged. He probably shot up five six rounds
because just of that, knowing what the Saints are going
to do, that is the that is the benefit, Like

(01:02:01):
you could get a sleeper in the draft, maybe the
value of someone emerges in the preseason in very good,
good value. But there's the other side of it that
there are guys that you didn't take that will emerge
over these next three weeks and maybe have great games
that you wish you would have had a chance to
draft and maybe and then you ended up not doing so,

(01:02:22):
So you're so you have you're resigned to the fact
of maybe getting him through waiver wire.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Well, you mentioned Alvin Kamara, and he's the jumping off
point for this particular discussion in the Fantasy realm Dan
when we talk about running backs and it's a different position.
We we've done a lot with Josh Jacobs. He's a
whole other story and curiosity as he's yet to report
to camp and and what measures might be out there

(01:02:47):
for him going forward, both team wise and his decisions
to make later on. But Alvin Kamara, suspended three games
for violating the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy, pled no contest
to charges that fight long ago February twenty two in
Las Vegas. He took responsibility. Quote poor judgment on my end,

(01:03:08):
Definitely a bad decision, But I'm a man. Anything I've
done in my life, I've stood on it. I can
take accountability for good statement, he's gonna miss three weeks,
and that was in the offing. And that's one of
the points, right, wondering just because legally things have been
pushed to the side. We know that the hammer of

(01:03:28):
the NFL was always there, so I expected a punishment.
Didn't know whether you'd get two games, four games. They
settle on three and you pushed forward. Well, that means
Jamal Williams comes front and center, a guy I've always
liked watching him run over my Chicago Bears defense as
as a member of the Green Bay Packers. But now
you're looking at a guy who emerges at least for

(01:03:49):
the first three weeks as a viable all right, he'll
be an RB two for sure, but his value on
the draft board overall, because now Camaro will be suspended
a couple of weeks. Does he come back full tilt
right away? What do they do in that process? But
it gets you to thinking about the running back position,
where we already have these tandems or triads in someplace,

(01:04:10):
and where you might find some more promited value. So
just off the thought process, and this was all done
during the Taylor Swift Show. By the way, is thinking
about backup running backs and where you might find yourself
with the diamond in the rough or a guy who
takes enough of a workload to create chaos in the

(01:04:32):
fantasy realm.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yeah, I think that there are guys like Green Bay,
for example, Aaron Jones and aj Dillon are going to
be decent draft picks. There's a two back system that
you've got in green Bay. We don't know how the
Saints are exactly going to play out, but you know
a guy like in Detroit, in David Montgomery. I think

(01:04:54):
that the glitz and glamorous Jamiir Gibbs, and I think
it gives is the guy that because he's the first
round there's equity in him. But when you look at
what the Lions had been over the past few years,
I think you're trying to say to yourself, all right,
who fills what role? Who takes the role of DeAndre Swift?
So that's probably Gibbs, who's going to fill the role

(01:05:15):
of the aforementioned Jamal Williams who's now in New Orleans.
Maybe that's David Montgomery in that aspect. So there could be,
you know, in that duo for the price that you're
going to get I would think that Montgomery would be
a guy that I know in our draft that we
had last night gives one a heck of a lot
higher than I thought. And Montgomery lasted a heck of

(01:05:36):
a lot longer than I thought that he would. That's
one spot in Seattle who traditionally cannot keep a running
back healthy. And that's the situation in this camp. Kenneth
Walker's not dealing with a groin injury that Pete Carroll
called week to week. Here we are a month out
and that's not a lot of day to day is
a lot different, more different in camp than week to

(01:05:56):
week in camp. But Zach Charbaday had had a shoulder issue,
but he's back on the practice field. He was the
second round pick, could be an opportunity there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Yeah, so it's trying to find those and Montgomery was
one of the guys that was first in my brain
because well, just leaving Chicago, Williams obviously making his run
through the NFC North I was really hoping to see
another stop there before he goes to New Orleans. But
you know, you look at Montgomery. If the Lions are

(01:06:25):
supposed to be live up to the height, then there's
a lot of guys that are gonna get fed, yeah,
and rookies you always wonder how many touches are in
the legs and just philosophy. For Dan Campbell, I would
think if the offense is explosive as we expect it
to be, you're gonna kind of grind out some clock
down the road, and that would lend more of a

(01:06:47):
role for Montgomery. Guy that we've talked about a little bit,
Jalen Warren in Pittsburgh. You know, Najie Harris being drafted
a rout where Gibbs is in that early RB two area.
But warn a guy that we saw in limited duty
and we've talked about him a little bit on the
show before Dan that I think there might be a
bigger role again Pittsburgh expecting to take a step forward

(01:07:11):
with Kenny Pickett in year two. Damien Harrison Buffalo. As
much as I love James Cook and hope he thrives,
let's face it, Harris has been a good between the
tackles and goal line rusher during his years in New
England and then Denver, which is interesting because it ties
back to the Josh Jacobs story with samajp Ryan showing

(01:07:33):
up there. Javonte Williams is back and healthy, but coming
back off a very big injury. Again, we start talking
about workloads management and what Sean Payton's done in the
past with the running back position. But for p Ryan,
a good receiver out of the backfield in spots, but
certainly a tough runner and knows for the goal. But

(01:07:55):
it goes back to the Jacobs thing because there's the
report that the considering and how much of this is
fact versus fxion, you know, taking back the franchise tag,
and they're saying that the two leading teams to vulture
him would be in Division, looking at the Kansas City
Chiefs and the Denver Broncos, which is why I don't

(01:08:15):
think it was I don't think it makes sense on
any level unless you're already punting the season before you've
even started.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
The Chiefs to me are interesting because there was actually
a team I was going to bring up Mike just
for experience. If you've ever had Patrick Mahomes or Travis
Kelcey on your fantasy team, you know how awesome it
is to have them on your fantasy team. But if
you've had any other Kansas City chief and I'm not
talking about Tyreek Hill. He's different and he's now on

(01:08:42):
the Dolphins. You know how much of a head scratcher
it can be. You've got Pacheco who seems to be
the one dimensional guy, but you still have Jerick McKinnon there,
who's valuable before Pachecko came on at the end of
the year of being more of the lead back, but
McKinnon again, more of your third down guy and doing
different things. If you were to add Jacobs to that,

(01:09:04):
that's more of a ding I believe on Pacheco and
his value than it would be of Jack McKinnon. I
still think that Jack McKinnon would have the role, but
I don't know again, if you're Kansas City and why
except to just maybe pour salt in the wound, I
don't It's nice to have depth, but I do think
that they have got a nice piece in Pacheco as

(01:09:25):
there at least first and second dollary.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
The other part is, you know, and we can always
play games with moving monies around and whatever, but he's
not getting anywhere near the ten million. He would make
no with the Raiders, so any move would make no
sense for him in terms of you know the philosophy
of what you're battling for to then go play for
a third of that with incentives or whatever. The monies

(01:09:51):
that could be worked out would be.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
The incentives would be tricky just because how much do
you use them?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yeah, that's just it, like there's a myriad thing. So
I see that report, I'm like, all right, and it's
it's good in theory. You know, Hey, Mark Davis, out
of spite does this, but a torpedoes his team. But
on the Josh Jacobs side, you're giving up ten point
one million or I mean, look, if you end up

(01:10:17):
winning a ring somewhere else than great, but otherwise it's
another year on your body. Yeah, the year closer to
the end of things and a lot less cash in
your pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
I think in the end that he will probably end
up signing that franchise tender.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yeah. I put a big bet on you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Know, take it away.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Yeah, my auction draft. I paid nineteen for him on
the idea that he's showing up eventually.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
I'll give you one other spot that I think is interesting. Baltimore. Okay,
so you got new offensive coordinator Tom Hawkins in there,
but JK. Dobbins wants a new deal along those lines,
they've signed Melvin Gordon, Gus Edwards like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah, you know I've got myriad guys and is going
to run for eight um.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Yeah. Yeah. Dobbins was really good at the end of
last year. But right now him not being there and
not taking part in camp, doing the sit in sort
of holdout. Don't know, just could could be interesting in
Baltimore and how that plays out, especially with Dobbins in
his injury history. Maybe you would hope that he gets

(01:11:21):
into camp sooner rather than later.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
A guy that you love to watch, but the injury
history makes me back away. Yeah, not to mention Gus.
The bus is always lurking. He's dan byer and and
now Dobbins is better. But yeah, well but it's enough
to where it gets split up and curious to see
with all the receivers Munkins now got at his disposal
because Da Costas said, yeah, you complain about receivers. There's

(01:11:44):
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Mike and Dan.

Speaker 7 (01:12:02):
They're breaking out the pickled herring in Helsinki because on Sunday,
Sweden eliminated Team USA from the Women's World Cup in
the round of sixteen and a penalty kick shootout. They
were scoreless after regulation and overtime, and then Sweden won
the shootout five to four. Shootout winning goal by Sweden
crossed the line so barely that it had to be
confirmed by var And here is how those moments sounded

(01:12:26):
on Fox.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Heartag waiting the signal, You've gotta be kidding, Well, they're waiting,
They're got a check.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
Var kem kenneredy. I couldn't tell from here. I thought
it was going in, but it happened so quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Wow, sneaking.

Speaker 7 (01:13:01):
It's the earliest the Team USA has ever been eliminated
from the Women's World Cup. They came in having previously
won in twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen, so their quest
for the three peat is over. In Major League Baseball,
on Saturday, night, the Seattle Mariners defeated the Angels in
Anaheim three to two. Mariners have on twelve of sixteen.
Padres scored seven of the bottom of the eighth for

(01:13:22):
an eight to three win over the Dodgers. Manny Machado
a solo home run and a two run single against
his former team, White Sox what in Cleveland seven to
four in a game that featured a bench clearing brawl
in the sixth inning squaring off Tim Anderson of the
White Sox against Cleveland's Jose Ramirez, and Ramirez knocked out
Anderson with a right cross and props to someone on

(01:13:44):
social media fellas named Adam Schmidt. Adam Schmidt found a
very ironic tweet posted by Tim Anderson, who got knocked
out on August seventeenth, twenty nineteen. The tweet and I
quote never let them not awe your pivot unquote.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Oh I thought you were gonna reference the I'm gonna
sleep now because he deleted that. Oh that's right.

Speaker 7 (01:14:07):
That was another one. Yeah, boil boy, truly, nothing ever
goes away on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Gary in Tucson can find that one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
He's on the case.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
I love these random tweeters that Isaac finds.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
He's the best. I mean, leaving no stone unturned.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Marge and new Haven.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Good stuff, Vilah, Sam would like the floor. What do
you need? Sam?

Speaker 9 (01:14:33):
Just momentarily here can we say that Tim Anderson's career
possibly peaked when he hit the walk off home run
at the Field of Dreams game, and ever since then
it's been kind of a downward two nightmares.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
He's been in the cornfield ever since. Yeah, it's been
children in the corn.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
I don't know. But until two or three days ago,
he was hitting like four hundred. After the break, I know,
somebody didn't get traded.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
He's getting hit now, he's getting hit. That White Sox
haven't been doing so well.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Wow, that's the understatement of the year, saying, oh they're
they're not good at all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
It's under Harmon's skin.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
No, because they're I'm just saying.

Speaker 9 (01:15:07):
I'm just saying in injuries and stuff. Oh no, Jim
Anderson's had kind of a rough go. None of that
magical moment in uh Dyersville, Iowa. It all comes back
to Iowa.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Sorry, it does for me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
It's all in my brain. It's an orbit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
So the last Tim Anderson thing that Sam, that's not sure.

Speaker 9 (01:15:25):
That's not him, and then him getting knocked to the
ground and getting knocked out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
There's a lot of stuff that happened in between.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
It's a blank space and I did that. Taylor Swift
references as we go in. Mike Garbat Dampier with you
live here from the tyrac dot com Fox Sports Radio Studios,
and once upon a time it was a really big deal.
Next on Fox, Welcome back in, Mike carbon Dampier Live
from the tyrac dot com Fox Sports Radio Studios. It's

(01:15:52):
Fox Sport Sunday coming up in about ten minutes. We've
got to do a little bit of a corrections note
World Cup because the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
It in Wisconsin is tweeted in.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
The tweets are coming. Frank here, ucla Dodger. Frank a
big fan of what we do here at Fox Sports
Radio and a member of our extended family wrote in
as well. So we'll have to uh to do a
quick update. Something we both kind of heard, but in
the interest of time, and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
I missed it.

Speaker 7 (01:16:20):
Yeah, I heard, and I just watched the interest of time,
I just let it go. Get to that ten minutes.
This is the all timer. You were gonna want to
stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
All right, But now I hand the stick microphone over
to Dan Byer because everybody's in the room.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Yeah, and there's only top eight answers on the board.
As the Fox Family is here. Mike Harmon, Shay's our
executive producer. Iowa with Sam and Isaac make up the
Fox Family today. We play it like the few. There
is a pass available if you don't know the answer,
I'll reveal one and you can move on in the game. However,
the past then would be used and no one else
can use it. Three strikes and you're out. A lot

(01:16:57):
of conference shake ups going on. You got you remember
the Big Eight Conference. I hope you do, because I
want to know the eight members that were a part
of the Big Eight when it ended up ceasing operations
in nineteen ninety six. The old Big Eight Conference is
no more. I want to know the eight schools that
were in the league when it ended. Mike Carmon, we

(01:17:18):
start with.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
You off the witching and hoping, because my memory is terrible.
Is Texas Texas?

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
All right? Is it Texas? Nor all right? Off the jump?
They were in the Southwest Conference? Oh hey, Shay, over
to you. Eight members of the Big Eight conference that
ended before you were born.

Speaker 9 (01:17:40):
I think I only think I know this because they
were in the PAC twelve until recently the Colorado Show
me Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Yeah, the buffs were in there, all right, one of
the eight. Fifth down over to Iowa. Sam, give me
the cyclones of Iowa State. All right, show me Iowa State.
There they are back on track. Let's head over the
Kilsinki and Isaac loohen Kron Stockholm University.

Speaker 7 (01:18:10):
I'm gonna get another one wrong, not as wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Uh, the Big Eight.

Speaker 9 (01:18:21):
TCU? Is it TCU? They are also in the Southwest Conference. Yes,
and more recently the Mountain West right. Yes, yes, yes,
back around to Mike Carmen. Pass is still available. We
only have two of the six schools. Show me Kansas Jay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Hawk to you there, all right? All right, Chay back
around to you. No more safety net and we have
two strikes on the board passes available in a guess,
Kansas State. Show me Kansas State. All right, jay keeping
it alive. You got half of them. Over to Iowa. Sam,
let's go with Oklahoma. Show me the Sooners. Boomer Sooner

(01:19:02):
Sooners on the board, one of the members of the
Big Eight when it ended back around.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Why is it low and cross Oklahoma State?

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Show me Oklahoma State. There are all right, we are
making great time, Mike Carmen back around to you. Pass
is still.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Available and Mike has no idea, So for once I
will actually take the pass.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
All right, the pass Missouri. Missouri is one of those
schools then they jumped to the SEC after going to
the Big twelve. Shay, it's up to you. The one
remaining school that was a member of the Big Eight
when it ended in nineteen ninety six. Man pressure man, Yes,
come on Sha for the vacationing Ethan millerte is it Utah?

(01:19:48):
Nebraska's Iowa Sam one of on the on deck circle.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
He's Dan a Mike. That was my failed effort at
the feud. I'll go back and read my college football history.
But coming out next we get back into the business
of practice fights, you know, Dan, Other than penalty kicks,
nothing more anxieties and anxiety producing than when your kid
has gotten their driver's license and they're first doing their

(01:20:18):
solo driving to different things. My daughter started a nurse's
assistant program, so she's driving herself down to Orange, so
a good thirty mile jaunt on the Highway, and I'm
like waiting out of the text, waiting all I got here.
I'm good, but like the whole time in your throat,
kind of like watching a goalie trying to save a piece.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
If you want to know what life is like for
Mike Harmon, this has been his past week. And I
hope I'm not revealing too much, Mike, But yeah, your
star soccer player daughter got a head butt to the eye. Yeah,
And so then you're dealing with that laceration. You go
to Taylor's, your other daughters now driving to work after

(01:21:04):
she just graduated high school, and now you have to
wake up at two o'clock local time to watch the
US women play to a scoreless draw all the way
through extra time and then losing penalty kicks. So it
is all over the map. The high of Taylor Swift,
the low of your daughter with the cut eye, the

(01:21:26):
angst of your other daughter driving to work, this is
this is all over the spectrum.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
It's an emotional roller coaster. I gotta give a shout
out to the Radies Children Hospital down in towards San Diego.
They could not have been kinder and more efficient to
get her back on the pitch as she wanted to
trying to win a big tournament, Dan shouting instructions to
her defensive mates after she'd gone off. But yeah, she

(01:21:53):
went up to head a ball and girl caught her
as she was coming down and it was like a
boxer's cut. And they start giving tips about how to
avoid scarring. She goes, I don't know, I think a
scar there would look cool, like you were just a
different kid.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Let me tell you a week a day in the
life of Mike Harmon. A week in the life of
Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Oh so much though, But it's all good, all good things.
Playing at a high level, achieving their Taylor Swift and
even though the US women's national team failed us a
lot of shots on gold sweet Sweden's goalie was fantastic,
by far the best player of the match. And we

(01:22:33):
we had our opportunities. And you know, if the the
low is we come in and we talk about sports,
Dan and I get to hang out with you for
four hours on our team here, I think we did okay.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
And your co worker thought Helsinki was in Sweden.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Yeah, I was trying to push that aside a second, Well,
we do need to address it. Because it's come up
during during the update we had ILO and and he
went for the one liner, which I thought I got
confus used on thinking it was there was some some
other meaning to it here.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Yeah, this is this is the great part about this
because we all had our role in it. Isaac said
it and none of us corrected him, and I will
fully admit, and I'm embarrassed to admit this. I wasn't
listening to him when he said it, so I had
missed the line. And the only way that I found

(01:23:24):
out and I looked at you know, you had you
had a little side eye, and I thought it was
for something else. And then Janet from Wisconsin tweeted in
Helsinki is in Finland. That would be my mom. So
my mom was listening and her tell Isaac is in Finland.
And then Frank tweeted in yeah Iowa Sam even said.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
A geography right, geography man I awa Sam? So yeah,
we uh.

Speaker 7 (01:23:50):
I'd like to take this opportunity to personally apologize to
Prime Minister Ulf Christson, Yes, Minister for just gunner Stromer,
Minister for Foreign Affairs Tobias Bilstrom, and finally Minister for
Social Affairs yakub Force med Now, I am so sophisticated

(01:24:16):
that I was actually trying to make the point that
soccer is such a popular international sport that they were
actually enjoying pickled hearing him Helsinki in solidarity with nice sweet, but.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Yes it is. It is the greatest blue firm. How long?

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
How long will this bother you? How long will like this?
Like by tomorrow, as it offers, it's still going to
stick in your brain.

Speaker 7 (01:24:45):
It will stick in my brain ten years from now
when the kids get a little louder later on today.
And you know, from time to time I get invited
to these journalism schools and the title of the lecture
is usually something like quote, don't let the happened to you?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Uh, this will be.

Speaker 7 (01:25:03):
This will be the keynote, anecdote from here on in.
And you know what, one of the fun things about
what we do, and especially here, because you know, we
have fun, because it's supposed to be fun and entertaining.
Is as mortifying as it is, it's kind of funny,
let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Yes, no, I was going to ask you what the
joke was, because I really thought there was another, Like
I'm like, all right, what's the hell sinky? But in
the interest of time, because we wanted to get back
for the feud that I failed at miserably that you know,
we moved on what you got.

Speaker 9 (01:25:35):
I was saying, Oh, I was just telling Isaac during
the break that yesterday I said ray Rice went to Louisville.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
So listen.

Speaker 9 (01:25:41):
I was embarrassed about that today. No, actually, I feel
much better now that Isaac had stepped in it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
So you know, it's no longer anything. Taylor Swift ad
there from Dan and shaking it off.

Speaker 7 (01:25:53):
Swedish Minister of Culture Parisa lil Strahan has just issued
a scathing statement denouncing me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
So we'll be following that an international incident. Yeh here
on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, Gunner, how great a name
is that?

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
It's good names, little Let's one of my exes cousins
is a Gunner and an ar Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
And then now you got the young prospect for the
Orioles Gunner Henderson. Yes, so yeah, it all comes full circle.
I Lo, we love you picked up one of his cards.
I think in series two, Mike, whoa look at you
getting after it a little twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Three series just a base card. I believe. Yes, okay,
it was for sure, but just to go along in
your in your line of thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Yeah, I failed in a U. I had a box
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(01:27:07):
we go through the process of training camp and notes
and following our favorite beat writers and try to get
our arms around for fantasy purposes, for your would be
gambling picks, whatever the case may be, and just for
our sake. You at the news desk and working on
the Doug Gottlieb Show and Covino and Rich Me working

(01:27:29):
with Smith, You're trying to get as much information as
you can, right the guests you're gonna talk to and
be as as deep in your knowledge based as you can.
But it's a dangerous thing. In training camp one for injuries, right,
A lot of precautionary Hey that guy left, is it
really serious?

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
Nah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
You also had a tea time or something to get
to along the way. But what's also dangerous is the
number of reports of how poorly or how well someone
is performing in camp owing to you see a little
bit in preseason games. All right, it's still a game scenario.
But as we know more and more, it's like, all right,

(01:28:06):
what are we working on? Kind of like those combined practices,
you know, what kind of drills are we going to do,
what kind of circumstances. So yesterday it was a big
deal in Ravens camp because it was just report after
report of another interception by the defense, another big play,
Lamar picked off again, and everybody's losing their minds, and

(01:28:26):
then reporters after asking Isaiah Likely and others going, so
what we you know we saw the defense? Now, I
was like, well, we were working third and long situations,
so pin your ears back and yeah, and just different
coverages and working through. Does it look great for the
offense overall? No, But you got to give it context
as to why the circumstances, the down the distance, it

(01:28:50):
was a more difficult path to navigate versus hey, we're
just going eleven on eleven. Let's strap it up and
get it on. And I think that's always the dangerous thing,
because the quick react is, oh, that got through another
couple of picks. Down in Tampa, a lot being made
about how many interceptions Baker Mayfield's thrown and whether he
and Kyle Trask are truly neck and neck for the

(01:29:12):
starting job. Maybe maybe not, but certainly, and coaches are
always going to say, hey, it's you know, everybody's battling
for a job, the old Steve Pete Carroll kind of line,
like everybody's in competition here, yes, right, you're competing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
I wonder if his name was Mike, for example, if
you would have been as strong with compete as he is.
I think he loves compete because his name's in it.
That's why I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Think he would sell shirts of it if he could,
Dan and I wouldn't doubt it after this airing if
he doesn't. But just the idea that we take so
much out of each of these individual practices not really
knowing the rhyme or reason. It's kind of like when
we try to analyze game, what did this guy blow?
His assignment? Is the cornerback's fault, the safety's fault? We
don't know what the defense was that was called? What

(01:29:58):
wrinkle was there, and we try to to analyze slash
guess as best we can. Likewise, in these circumstances, some
of the uh, the knee jerk reactions to a big
prick like George Pickens, this is the other one, like oh,
look at this highlight reel catch. It's offensive pass interference
on every one of the big catches.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Shut up, I drafted George Pickens.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Yes, I like it, all world talent. Shut up, I
picked it. I have.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
I have no problems with interceptions being thrown, fumbles stuff
like that in training camp. My big red flags MIC
are just always the distraction stuff someone you know, maybe
on the off day speeding ticket or something like that,
you know, you know, ends up getting cited for something,

(01:30:44):
or if there's friction. I have no troubles with working
out kings, as you said, working out third and long.
You know, I think Denver was another spot that that
you wanted to pinpoint. Really, you mean Russell Wilson and
the Broncos offense don't have Sean Payton's entire offense down
pat right, you know, like two weeks into training camp,
Oh my goodness, you know what do you know? Like

(01:31:05):
there's I just you're right, like it's there's stuff that
gets overblown. I think there's stuff that you can really
take with legitimacy, like the Anthony Richardson situation with Indianapolis
and the amount of first team reps that he's going
that is that could be a signal of what's to come.
But just because you're throwing again, as you said, interceptions

(01:31:27):
in third and long situations or maybe don't have the
entire offense down pat right now, to me is not
something that fans should worry about and does get overblown.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Take it bit by bit and look, if you're doing
your fantasy drafts now, where our perfect scenarios were not
right you for as you laid out last hour, for
myriad circumstances, your group twenty six years together had to
get it done. This week, I've done a couple of
things that are industry ones that go up on different

(01:31:59):
websites and get evaluated and written about so people can
mock us and whatever. Would I want to do them
at the end of July as you're reporting to camp. No,
not at all. I mean injuries, guys that fall out
of favor, the young guy break like all of those
breakthrough things like we talked about last hour. Likewise, try
to get through the noise of the first week plus

(01:32:20):
of camp. Right, defenses are going to be ahead of offenses,
and that's whether you're installing Sean Payton's offense or one
that's been there for a couple of years because so
many different moving parts. The other is you don't really
have a lot of continuity with coordinators anymore either, So
that's a whole other thing. You get your off season workouts.
But because in the CBA, off days are the biggest

(01:32:44):
carrot for players that they miss out on some other things, well,
that limits the amount of days that you're getting together
to actually start installing and working on things and convincing
guys to give up vacations and family time to go
hang out at a Cores backyard to run drills or whatever.
How addicing is that if you're in year five of your.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
NFL crewer here not as much.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Yeah, if I'm a rookie and I'm trying to get
your eye. Yeah, if I'm the new guy that came
over from another team and I know we gotta I'm
gonna be counted on to be the number one because
I got paid commensurately then, yes, But all that other
stuff it falls into the you guys agreed on this
work time and workspace, and it changes the complexion of
what an offseason was long ago.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
And you know, Russell Wilson is gonna see that preseason
action for the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Bronckett and we'll get into that, you know, because that's
curious like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
That, like but but I have no problem with that.
Like he probably does need some reps and and so
like that. That doesn't worry me. Those sort of things
don't get me concerned. I would get concerned if it
was further along in camp and maybe certain things are
popping out. But we're still here in early August. August

(01:34:01):
sixth is still early August, and it will work itself out.
If we're like this in two weeks, maybe a little
different story. But I do not fret.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Yeah, not that I want to quote Aaron Rodgers more
than I have to, since I have to listen about
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swing back in the other direction when we look at
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Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
Yes, it's got to keep that up. I have not been.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
I'm trying to be better.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
I did I saw your couple of year, Taylor Swift one.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Just trying to jump back in. I went for the
easy re entry, figuring that just by a hashtag Taylor,
you'd get a couple of people that would at least
come on board a little bit, and maybe we get
him to stay, maybe we can create some scintillating fantasy
football content. Or I'll just keep talking about my favorite
Taylor Swift songs because I figure there's a good market
for that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Top five it's a huge market, right Top.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Five, Harmon says, and then all the Swifties will turn
on me as well. But it's like, but I went
to the show. I'm one of you. Hey, at the
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of our last exchange here on the NFL DAN the

(01:36:21):
news that Sean Payton's gonna have Russell Wilson first line starters,
get out and get some reps in the preseason opener.
A little bit of an about face from what we've
seen trending these last couple of years in the National
Football League. Even Sean mcvayh talking about changing up his
strategy for this year and getting some guys a lot

(01:36:44):
of position battles and shuffling out on new offensive line
and trying to get those continuity concerns a laid as
quickly as you can, or realize whether you truly have
some problems to address in the final weeks of camp.
I kind of like that the pendulum swttle bit might
make you a little nervous, but you'll actually see some
of the names, So I wonder if the invisible hand

(01:37:06):
of the NFL isn't behind it to a degree of Hey,
preseason still got to be an event too, because we
watched the Hall of Fame game, or at least I
did the other night. And as much as I liked
watching Dorian Thompson Robinson run around, as we realized and
Steve de Seger was in with us, we all made
the same joke finally out of eligibility at UCLA that

(01:37:27):
he came in and beat the Jets and I got
to have Smith do all his spin. Look, it was
a season opening game, but most of your stars were
on in street clothes. Right, just hanging out doing interviews
and doing much of nothing in what was a marquee. Hey,
welcome back to the NFL moment.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
I felt like Sean McVay was the one who actually
started this and what you saw years back. I remember
the Rams were playing a Monday night game against the
Raiders in Oakland, and really it took them a half
to get adjusted, and then they were often running in
the second half, So they sacrificed thirty minutes of the
regular season's game time to get into the swing of things,

(01:38:07):
as opposed to putting themselves in harm's way of or
during the preseason for what was then four games, and
if you were playing in the Hall of Fame game,
it may have been five preseason games. That's what it
was back then. So the Rams, I felt, were ahead
of the curve with that. I don't think it's the
NFL pushing it. I think the NFL would be wise

(01:38:29):
to use the preseason to try to promote some of
the young talent that you're seeing do it in that
sort of way. What I do think it is is
I think it's Sean Payton remembering what happened last year,
and it may have just been a super Bowl celebration hangover.
The whole season seemed to be a Super Bowl hangover
for the Rams, dealing with a lot of different injuries

(01:38:49):
and some weird situations with cam Akers Heck, basically being
run out of town or being you know, left off
the roster, you felt, and then all of a sudden
at the end of the year, he's one of the
bright spots on a team that's quarterback by Baker Mayfield.
Like it was so weird for the Rams, but if
you remember that opening night, like, Buffalo is Buffalo on

(01:39:11):
all cylinders, and maybe the Rams could have used some
of that. So I think that's one of the things
Sean McVay is is probably looking back at U saying,
you know what, we didn't come out as sharp and
maybe in years past we play a not so ready
Raiders team and could get away with it. But if
you're playing better teams in the NFL, maybe you can't.

(01:39:31):
And you know who they're playing in Week one there
it's a division game in Seattle against the Seahawks, so
you don't want to have rust in that situation, So
that could be an opportunity. But Mike also for the
Rams in this case, just mentioning their injuries. There are
a lot of guys that didn't have snaps last year.
They kind of need to get some game snaps going,
no matter how long you've played in the National Football League.

(01:39:53):
So that's where I think, at least in the Rams case,
and with Sean Payton and the Broncos and playing Russell Wilson,
you're trying to get the those reps in as well.
So I think each team has their own sort of
needs to deal with. And McVeigh moving back towards, as
you said, the pendulum swinging the other way.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Yeah, I wonder you know another factor to it, and
we talk about trying to assess a squad talking about
the Ravens before right, Todd Munkin comes in New OC.
You know how many new offensive coordinators there are this year?

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
Do you want me to guess or should I just
say how many?

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
Sixteen?

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Okay, half the league? All right, I was going to
say ten, but.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
I mean half the league changed out coordinators, which means
any extra rep you can get with your first unit
together is a learning experience, right, a learning process because again,
owing to off season workouts, you don't get as many
days you certainly are doing two a days like in
the same fashion, right, you still got meetings, you still
got film study, But in terms of actual physical let's

(01:40:55):
get after it. The rules of engagement changed in the
cbas and what's been fought for and those concessions. You
could say it's good from a physicality standpoint and that
you're not out at one hundred and two degrees, you know,
in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, at three o'clock in the afternoon, the
same way you would have back in the day. But
it's also, you know, not physical reps. We could do

(01:41:17):
the mental reps to we're blue in the face, it's
not the same as getting out there running routes, press coverages,
et cetera. So I think when you start going into coordinators,
like you're facing your own squad and you get a
couple of these days with another team, and we've seen
more of those practices scheduled across the NFL DAN, But

(01:41:38):
when you change out that many coordinators and play callers,
that I think you need more of the practice time
to run it up and match wits.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
Yeah, you know, you mentioned earlier that we were out
at RAMS camp on Thursday, and one of the themes
was how many new guys they have and you're trying
to incorporate, you know, thirty different guys, young guys in
in trying to get it to work. They're gonna need
to and guess what they're gonna be playing with the
veterans of Matthew Stafford and when Cooper Cup's healthy and

(01:42:07):
Van Jefferson and get adjusted that sort of way. You
have an offensive line that was injured. And I'm talking
specifically about the Rams here, but I think it goes
for all the other thirty one teams as well. And
I'd also say this, Mike, Obviously, there's nothing that you
could do with a season ending injury. There's you know JK. Dobbins,
you know, a couple of years ago and that game

(01:42:28):
against Washington and Baltimore keeping their preseason undefeated streak. You know,
going you're wondering, like what's happening, But you know, their
success at least of making the playoffs was tough to
argue with. When you had four preseason games, you basically
had a little over a week. You would play on
a Thursday night and then you'd have basically a week

(01:42:49):
and a half to get ready for Week one. And
if you were playing that Thursday night game, you only
had a week. Now, with the three games in the
way that it's scheduled, you've got a little bit more time.
So if there is a soft tissue injury or an
ankle injury that you suffer in the second preseason game,
you got an extra week or two to be able
to nurse that injury. So the drawbacks. Obviously season ending

(01:43:14):
is a different story. But if you were to suffer
a twisted ankle or something, you'd have a little bit
more time to get back and maybe wouldn't miss as
many games as you would previously, so that could be
another factor.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
The other fun that we always get into is near
misses in practice and the number of fights, and certainly
some smack talking came in when Eli Apple joined the Dolphins.
Tyreek Hill, Oh, he's gonna wear it every day because
they have their history for sure. But the near misses
are the ones that I think are interesting. Where you
had in Jets camp near Aaron Rodgers, you had in

(01:43:50):
forty nine Ers camp a near rockberty of a defender
nearly getting to the danger zone. Right, we were supposed
to have that six halo of don't touch this guy.
To where a lot of let's just say, anxious moments
on those sidelines of will they or won't they? Almost
like it's put together like a good Hollywood movie, like

(01:44:13):
all right, we get there and now we'll go to
the commercial break. Did he get hit or didn'ty you'll
find out after the break. But we're seeing a lot
of those reports and I put them into the category
of what we're getting into a little bit earlier of
the try not to read too much into it, but
the fact that you've got a bunch of the beat

(01:44:35):
reporters other than looking for maybe a click or two,
noting that guys are like into season form of trying
to round off and a butt for one step here
or there. You're starting quarterbacks getting drilled is problematic.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Here's here's the flip side of all that, though, of
the worriedness of the injury or the reinjuring of the injury,
how much how far will that little deal with brock
party go because he blew it, he downplayed it in
the you know, in speaking with reporters after. But how

(01:45:12):
far does that go in helping him in his mindset?
And I don't like to talk about mindset a lot,
because I think it's just a general term that reporters
throw out, what is the mindset? But if in the
back of your mind you're worried about your elbow and
you're worried about something happening again to your elbow or
on a hit that hit there and you got past

(01:45:33):
it is now something that you don't have to deal with.
So week one, if you're out there, you're brock purty
or whenever you make your return, we always hear it. Hey,
it was good to get hit on that first player
to take a shot kind of wakes you up. I
think something like that with party can do you know,
could do wonders for him now that it has already happened.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
No, it's funny, right, it's that first play. Afterwards, we've
certainly seen it. Like playing sports growing up, right, you
go through different injuries, got to get back out. I
broke a leg and I became very gun shy of
a lot of things because contact. You know, I kind
of got threatened that I might not have the bottom
half of my leg if it went bad again. So

(01:46:13):
it kind of changes your outlook and and how you
play and how you you adapt. But you got to
try still got to try to get out there. Yeah, right,
And and certainly for all athletes, and we've we've certainly
seen some crazy injuries through the years. Hell, DeMar Hamlin
with everything he went through last year, the fact that
you know earlier this week he's like, yeah, he picked

(01:46:33):
off a ball in camp. Yea, and right, it's a bit.
It's a big celebration moment. And exhale. He's on the field,
he's playing away. You go to the big hit he
took what As soon as he walks back on the field, it's,
you know, take that next big hit.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
He gets up, he's patting the guy on the head.
He's like, okay, everybody, exhale and move forward to your point.
Get that, get that in the rear view as fast
as you can.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
It's it's good to at least when you're not injured.
Hindsight's twenty twenty. But if you can, if you can
get away with it and escape without injury, it can
do wonders for you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
That you know, I want the stars playing Dan because
then I can really if they don't show well, I
can eviscerate them here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
Hey, I think it's one or two games just to
let them see little action whether it's game one or
game two, but in week three or the third game
for most of the teams, Yeah, you're not gonna see
You're not gonna see anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Operation shutdown, no question at Dan Byron Fox where you
find Dan on Twitter, slash x and find me over
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Fox Sports Radio of Fox Sports Sunday. Yeah, we got
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to hear the audio from it. It is about as
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(01:47:50):
Isaac lowin Crown. He's got what's trending in our sporting universe.

Speaker 7 (01:47:54):
And felas we actually begin with an NFL note, the
Buffalo Bills have just activated defensive tackle Jordan Phillips off
of the physically unable to perform list. On Sunday, Sweden
eliminated Team USA from the Women's World Cup in the
round of sixteen and a penalty kick shootout. They were
scoreless after regulation and overtime, and then Sweden won the
shootout five to four. The shootout winning goal by Sweden's

(01:48:16):
Lena Hertig closed the line crossed the lines so barely
it had to be confirmed by a var replay review.
And here's how those moments sounded on Fox heartag.

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
Can it go ahead?

Speaker 4 (01:48:31):
Waiting for the signal? You've gotta be kidding, Well, they're waiting.

Speaker 5 (01:48:39):
They're gonna check var kem Hitterdy. I couldn't help from here.
I thought it was going in, but it happened so quickly.

Speaker 7 (01:48:56):
Wow, swigerrass And with that Lena, Hurtig, Dan and Mike,
joining the ranks of such Swedish sports legends as table
tennis star jan Ove Waldner, kayaker Gert Frederickson and heptathlete
carolinat Klott. Anyway, it's the earliest team USA has ever

(01:49:17):
been eliminated from the Women's World Cup. In this match,
they had eleven shots on target to just one for Sweden.
Team USA alloted just two shots on target the entire tournament,
but they would score just one goal over their final
three matches. In Major League Baseball, on Saturday night, the
Seattle Mariners beat the Angels in Anaheim three to two.
The Mariners have won four straight twelve of sixteen. Padres

(01:49:39):
scored seven to the bottom of the eighth inning for
an eight three what over the Dodgers at San Diego.
Former Dodger Manny Machado a solo home run and a
two run single, twins over Arizonta twelve to one. Ryan
Jeffers hit two home runs, Michael Taylor homer for a
third straight game. Minnesota leads the ANL Central by three
and a half. Oriols over the Mets seven to three.
Balt Moore's one seven of nine and now leads the

(01:50:01):
AL East by three over the Tampa Bay Rays.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
Back do you guys? Thanks so much? Ilo, I figured
you'd go for Annika Sorenstam being a Dan's a big
golf fan. Go back to history, the hok and Lube, Yeah,
Peter Forsburg, Yeah, Bill Anderson, from Mama Mia, Thomas Ravelli.

Speaker 7 (01:50:22):
It just goes to show you the rich tapestry that
is Sweden and Swedish sports stars.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
That was a big stuff on EDG fan back in
the day.

Speaker 7 (01:50:29):
Matts Vielander.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
See how we're getting everybody in. Yeah, we're gonna we're
gonna play that game. We're now we're gonna name Famous.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
Sweet Corporation Edinburgh Allo.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Brilliant things along the way. Uh but yes, uh, Sweden
over the US. Remember a listener also made a penalty
kick along the way right, So to do its day
a weird wild game. We're watching it again here. It
was on Fox now FS one. It will be on
in perpetuity over the next couple of days as we

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(01:51:48):
in Sports. My White Sox don't generally farewell in this category.
We'll talk about it next here on Fox Welcome back
in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Short Sunday coming up
in about fifteen minutes. We'll get into it, Pope Pirie
of things, Baseball, Fight Night, Summer Slam, and the question

(01:52:09):
for the meaning of life. All of that comes together
is we're here in the Tyraq dot com Fox Sports
Radio Studios, Mike Rman, Dan Bayer with you. The show
is moving really quickly today, Dan, I don't know what
it's the caffeine, the fact that it didn't sleep much.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Now I'll tell you what it was is you had
to you sat through one hundred and twenty minutes of
a scoreless draw. Yeah, that's that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Not now we're on the edge of your seat. But
there was just you know, missed opportunity, missed opportunity, and
it's not what happened in this show.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
A lot of big saves from the Swedish goalie eleven
over the course of regulation opportunities there how many were
glorious chances. Well, you can fight about that and decide
where you want to put those in the category. All
it meant was a big nil nil into PK's as
we've been playing, and you'll hear the call again as
the show goes on. But we did have fight Night,

(01:53:04):
which got eclipsed by everything going on in boxing, wrestling,
and of course the women's national team. Tim Anderson, who
I always sam, said it right, I mean really the
field of dreams and his batting title is about as
good as it gets. A guy who struggled, he's had
some off field things and look, couldn't hit the broadside

(01:53:26):
of a barn hit his first home run literally just
a week ago of the year, hitting well.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
Something can't hit.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Well, that's that's where we're getting too nicely done. That
was well done, because well, let's just well, just hear
the audio from the Cleveland side of things.

Speaker 10 (01:53:45):
And another hustle double right over the bag at first. Now,
Hoosey and Anderson's square off. They're fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
They're swinging down, Go.

Speaker 10 (01:53:56):
Sanderson, down't go Sanderson. Ramirez went in with a head
first slide. Hosey never gets upset about anything. They came
up sewing. Anderson squared off Hosey dectum. It's a five

(01:54:19):
to one Chicago Lee, but everybody from the dugouts and
the Bullpence congregated around second base. You never see Jose
Ramirez get upset like that. Guardians Radio Network on the call.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
I probably watched this twenty times Dan before I finally
just had to put it to the side. Now Anderson
gets rocked, has to be helped off by teammates. The
freakis continues to where he tries to re enter the field,
and Andrew Vaughan picked him up much like you'd pick
up Brody just I no, you're done. I know it's
time out. Time let's move it back. It seemed like

(01:55:04):
he was upset about perhaps a hard tag slides in,
gets slapped on the head, try to make a play
and they kind of stood over him a minute. So
they have the quick words and wondering how much more
of an origin story, the frustration of Anderson's year, all
of that, but gets absolutely rocked and knocked to the

(01:55:24):
ground with the quick punch from.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
Ramiro, right hook out of nowhere, and it seemed that
Ramirez was even off balance a little bit. And I
threw the clip up on X if you will. If
you missed it, you could go at Dan Byer on Fox.
I need people to see it because the clip portion
that I loved was the umpire who just stepped back

(01:55:48):
and was like, all right, just get it. Only it
was like a Mills Lane moment he stepped back, I
almost sudden he took his hands like together and said,
all right, fight, just do it back.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
It was amazing. It was, But it wasn't that not
only that he didn't he tried to break it up
at first, but then it was almost like instead of
being like I don't want to be caught in the
middle like it was, it, I felt like he was
encouraging it, like he was, yeah, let's let's do this guys,
and Anderson is squaring up and uh yeah, it's just

(01:56:22):
oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
Well we are into the dog days of August, so
I mean, umpires need their entertainment. Two uh and look,
normally you don't get that kind of blow. Certainly for
me as a White Sox fan, I've got three in mind,
including this one obviously, the Nolan Ryan Robin Ventura. We
just had the anniversary of it on Friday. YEP, from

(01:56:45):
all those years ago, where Robin Ventura did what a
lot of players never had the guts to and and
you could see it properly the cattle rustling. Nolan Ryan
put it, put it quick work on him.

Speaker 3 (01:56:57):
This is I'll tell you what Robin Ventura amazing career
in college at Oklahoma State, hitting streak, top prospect in
Major League baseball, manager had you know, had a very
good career in Major League Baseball, and the one thing
he is known for is getting beat up by Nolan Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
Uh. You know Jose Bautista and Rignano Door, Yeah, right,
Like you talk about that one, like Bautista was the
bat flip in you know, pull home run shots. Now
you look back and if you were to say Jose Bautista,
he'd say, oh, I remember he took one from Odoor
and then against the Ranger. This is like we joke

(01:57:37):
about the Field of Dreams thing being the high point
of Tim Anderson's career. It seems like this is going
to overshadow that. Like this for now on is what
Tim Anderson is going to be known for, to getting
knocked out, And honestly, this may be what Jose Ramirez
will be known for. Yes, we talk about an MVP candidate,

(01:57:59):
perennial All Star, but this could be the moment like
this is this is crazy. This is gonna live on
and again the ref even back pedals like he's about
to the ump, back pedals. It is crazy, this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
Well, here's here's probably the best of it, and you
take it for what it's worth. Here's uh Francona after
the game, addressing it.

Speaker 8 (01:58:21):
What did you think?

Speaker 11 (01:58:23):
Left hook, right hook?

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
Right?

Speaker 11 (01:58:31):
You know it's not it's really it's not funny. But
when I came in, I'm listening to Hammy, it's hard
not to chuckle. I mean, it's but you know, again,
it's not funny.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
But pause, boys will be boys, no noise will be
nois me.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
Derek Anderson, It's not funny. That's what I kind on
thinking of when Francona was saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
So Terry Francona, that was his addressing it right, corrects
the Hey, this is the hand he actually got him with.
But then it's not funny. But you know, you know,
I mean the clip we played from the Guardians, I
mean Sam last, I mean we all laughed when we
heard it, like, wow, that's like you know, over the
top wrestling, Gorilla Monsoon kind of calling something, or Howard

(01:59:19):
Cosell with the Great fights of our time.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
By the way, if you go to my x page
or tweet page, like my Rose Bowl tweet from a
few days ago, it's got zero likes and zero retweets,
So while you're there, check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
I got you coming out next. A veritable Pope Pirie
A big sporting events this weekend on Fox. Greet Eggs
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(01:59:53):
on the network Monday through Friday, and of course we
gather the family together here on Sunday morning six to ten.
We appreciate you being with us here as we roll
on trying to pick from the veritable potpourri of subjects
and storylines that have emerged over the course of the
last twenty four to forty eight continuing saga and college football.

(02:00:17):
Will get back into that in a little bit here
as we continue. The women's national team losing in PKS,
Rapino Smith both miss over the top of the goal
mount you had O'Hara with the poster on her attempt
a listen naire with the near save that wasn't did

(02:00:40):
make our penalty kick though, so you know, contributing in
all different ways, but Sweden advances and psychologically this is
going to be a hard one for me, Dan, just
the scoring, the lack of punch from the US women's
national team, bunch young players that are injured on the
comeback trail. But it don't you know, take any shine,

(02:01:02):
any light and happiness on what we witnessed here with
the early exit from the US as the nil nil
tie loss in PKS.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
I know that you weren't a fit. You are not
a fan of the PK. I wait, would you like
so when obviously you go to extra time and you
play the two fifteen minute extra halves, would if they
were to do ten minute sudden death segments, would you
be fine with that? Would that be something that would.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
Or yeah, I guess when you get to this stage
of a tournament, because you do have the extra thirty minutes,
at some point you can't run for days. It's kind
of like college football where it's like, all right, now
you have to go for two. Like at some point
we need to push the action, hence the PK world.
Just I feel deflated win or loss on PK's it's

(02:01:57):
not a I guess to me truly presentative of what
you just did. But I'm also not a guy that
likes the ghost runner on second in Major League Baseball,
I don't you know, I don't like that they outlawed
the shift hit around it, but you know, things like
of that nature. So you can't play forever, and I
guess that's that's where I would come out on in

(02:02:18):
my ideal world. Yeah, another another ten minute, but how
many of those can you play before you're like, all right,
there's nobody left. We've used all our substitutions, and they're
literally dropping from cramping and all the issues on the pit.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
That's why I thought, Mike, maybe a sudden death instead
of playing out the ten minutes and allowing just if
one goal got in in that time that then it
just it ends at that point. So I thought, maybe
that could that could be something, And maybe the goal
was scored because someone is cramping or someone is tired out,
But it does seem that it would be more legitimate

(02:02:54):
if it was in gameplay.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:02:56):
The thing about like you talk about baseball. I I
for a while with the ghost runner, and I'm fine
with it now, But I thought, I have no problem
if you want to put a guy on at first,
but when you put them on in scoring position immediately,
that to me is you know single ends up right,

(02:03:19):
you know could not end the game, but it's going
to give you quite the advantage. I've warmed to it
now now I get why it's at second, seen it
played out enough, I have no problem with it. The
halftime or the excuse me, the overtime. For college football,
in starting automatically in field goal range, that is what

(02:03:39):
I have a problem, sure, Like I I wish you
would start at the thirty five.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
Yes, like a normal touchback would be where.

Speaker 3 (02:03:50):
Even then, because no matter what in the current situation,
you're going to get an attempt at a field goal,
which is what I think we kind of get here
in college kickers. You can have a whole conversation about, sure,
the roller coaster of the life of a college kicker,
and to have that, you know, be the be the

(02:04:13):
determining factor. That's the issue that I have. I would
like to rather see an offense be like, Okay, we
got in the field goal range, and maybe the weapon
that we have is we have a guy that can
kick a fifty two to fifty three yarder, because honestly,
there's there's kickers in college football that aren't don't have
that range for certain teams. So like, maybe use it
as an advantage there if you were to start at

(02:04:35):
the thirty five yard line and couldn't get anything done.
But it also makes you, Mike, if you start at
the thirty five yard line and you get sacked, you're
on a field goal range and now you're kind of like,
all right, what do we do? And I think that
would add more to it in college football. I mean,
they don't want to branch off on.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
The ways, but it's in that vein. Yeah, absolutely, And
for this, look, these are the rules of engagement. And
two of your best players, most known and well regarded player,
Sophia Smith on the rise Rapino finishing her World Cup
run with this. I mean they both sailed it over
the crossbar. Goalie who had made eleven saves during the match,

(02:05:14):
guess completely wrong, and they sail harmlessly over the top.
The O'Hara kick guess completely wrong, went to the other post,
hits the post. You know, it's just those kind of
circumstances and you think of the missed opportunities, even though
you took a lot of great things, it will look
like a more cohesive unit, a dedicated you like all

(02:05:36):
the criticism that went out, and maybe it was in
response to that of like it just it was a
better effort. I don't know if it was a succeed
and proceed kind of situation in the group stage of
we're getting through. Well, it cost you because then you
had to play Sweden and you met a foe that
was game and ready for it. And certainly all the

(02:05:57):
metrics were you dominit quote dominated the game? You didn't score?
How much did you dominate time of present? Because I'm
seeing all the write ups, it's like the time of
possession and all of these completed passes and shots on goal,
they're all finding good. If you don't score, you don't score.
You can score, shoot until the cows come home. If

(02:06:18):
you're a scattershot all above and around the net, or
you hit it harmlessly to me like it's a magnet,
it doesn't matter. It's all still a bunch of zeros
getting put up.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
Do you think they choked?

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
I like that word.

Speaker 3 (02:06:34):
It's a harsh word. It's very, very very harsh.

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
Opportunity, right, opportunity in pks to finish it, didn't finish it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:42):
That's that's the part of their They're three for three
and I know it's not the same person, different person
each time with the attempt, but on their fourth attempt
they had a chance to really really put the pressure
on Sweden. You make the fourth attempt, Sweden's has to
make their next two and then obviously hope that you
miss and they missed it. They gave them a little life. Well,

(02:07:04):
then Sweden didn't miss their next kick, so now the
US has the advantage again. And Sophia Smith like they
put the camera on her and if you didn't see it,
there there was a look on her face of and
you knew it, like, Okay, this is her moment.

Speaker 2 (02:07:22):
It's a moment, yeah, the moment everybody was waiting to
crown her. Yes. Yeah, And and.

Speaker 3 (02:07:29):
Then you have the miss and it opens the door
and Sweden makes their kick to then go into sudden
death and yeah, it's just the US had opportunities and
the choking aspect of when you make the first three again,
I know, it's such a harsh word, but I don't
know how you can describe it any other way. When
you miss your last two that you just you needed

(02:07:50):
one of them, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
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(02:08:12):
get back into college football, the changing landscape coming up
in about ten minutes. Dan, But we did a little
bit of baseball there, ghost runner and rules changes, et cetera.
We just had the trade deadline and a lot of
high expectations, and we didn't see the big names moved
around like perhaps many were hoping. Yes, the Mets were

(02:08:33):
able to get rid of Scherzer and Verlander and just
right off. Literally, they'll write it off as a bad season.
Cohen with his letter to the season ticket holders saying, hey,
you know, we will get back at it. We'll we'll
look and reevaluate, but don't think we're going away. As
we get into this offseason, I e. Your deposits doing

(02:08:55):
about two weeks. Don't think about jumping off this bandwagon now.
But one of the big stories here locally and nationally
internationally was Shoheo Tani and whether he'd get dealt or not.
And for me, a lot of it. You know, I
didn't look at the standings as much as the just
big business pragmatism, and for Arti Marino basically saying I'd

(02:09:16):
rather lose them in free agency because we couldn't be
the draw versus I got a handful of magic beans
of guys who might become something in Major League Baseball someday.
Because my thought was, with any contender you were going
to trade him to so he could go win or
even a part time rental, what are you getting back
in return? Right, any contenders not trading you a bunch

(02:09:39):
of pieces for their team that's viable to win now
and the prospects. I mean, we watched that year after year,
but all of a sudden, you know, they've lost five
and five in a row, They're three and seven in
their last ten, and all the feel good hype it's
kind of gone to the background.

Speaker 3 (02:09:57):
I hate to do this, Mike, but I feel bad
for the Angels. I actually feel bad for the Angels
and their fans. And I know Dodger fans in southern
California are are loving this. Yeah, they love this slide
with the Angels. But to me, it's the Angels aren't

(02:10:19):
the Yankees, They're not the Red Sox. They're they're not
the Dodgers. Where say what you want about you know,
ownership and how the team is run. There is a
fan base there and it may not be the biggest
in Major League Baseball, but you're just you need something
good to happen. And you know what, they went and

(02:10:39):
they did the right thing. They went for it instead
of you know, like eighty percent of the Ale Central
did move off of guys and not do anything and
end up making trades. The Angels are like, all right,
we're gonna give it a shot. And I agree. There
was there was no price tag for all the time
there's a deal couldn't be done because you just it
just couldn't be done, couldn't give up the amount that

(02:11:01):
the Angels would need to get rid of them. It
just was not possible. But they did try to add,
they tried to do different things. They brought in Giolito.
They got, you know, a great chuck and chron from
the Rockies. But now to have it end so quickly.
The tread dead wasn't even a week ago, Mike, and
now you've lost your last five like it is, and

(02:11:22):
so now you're just riding out the string of moves
that you made, hoping that you could turn it around. Actually,
in a way, I feel bad for them. I feel
sorry for him because they did what your fan base
would want and to try to keep Otani around and
added to it to try to make it better. And
it's just it's it's gone in a heartbeat. It's sad.

Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
The other story is sad, sad, no, but certainly look
when you watch a team go in, especially with a
talent like Otani at the head of it. Mike Trout's injured, right,
we don't know when he's coming back. Is that they
had a unchure's chance and now you see Texas adding
on whatever sures there is for them, and Houston got

(02:12:06):
healthy and are getting healthier, right or Kidi's coming back,
Alvarez who'd missed time is back. All of those things
to wear down the stretch run, they become that much
a bigger obstacle. You know, it's just tough, right. You
were hoping that there'd be some drama to it, and
maybe there still is this offseason, because it seems like

(02:12:27):
it's a FATA complete that he becomes a Dodger, at
least from all the experts in all the polling and
whatever else. But like, I wanted to see the Angels
at least fighting to the end, and who knows, maybe
they can go on a run, but to where in
the final week it's still in the balance of competitive baseball,

(02:12:47):
which feeds the narrative of all, right, does Otani see
what he likes here enough to re up or if
that's your best shot, is he done?

Speaker 3 (02:12:58):
I wanted them to get to mid August because you
have series against the Rangers and Astros coming up where
that yes, it would have mattered. It could have been
a big deal. If Trout comes back. Guess what that
is also all of a sudden, if the Angels were
in it, Trout's return is such a huge boost. Now
you're like, wow, and now we're playing well, we're in

(02:13:20):
the thick of it, and now we get Mike Trout back,
Like this is this is great And it's just completely
fizzled out. I'll give credit to John Ramos, Fox Sports
Radio technical producer Big Baseball Fan has pointed out this
stretch of the Angels that they were about to embark
on for the next twenty five games or show was
going to be brutal, and it has been absolutely brutal.

(02:13:43):
I mean it's been atrocious. They lost two of three
in Toronto, took the first one in Atlanta, and they
haven't won sins like it's losers of their last five.
And maybe this is who they were the whole time,
but I just wish those deals would have at least
allowed a little bit more of a of a stay,
if you will, and holding off their collapse as opposed

(02:14:03):
to not even a week old since the trade deadline.

Speaker 2 (02:14:06):
Little more angels in the outfield than what we've got
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(02:14:30):
collegiate landscape. We talked about it briefly earlier in the show.
I want to bring back the quote from the Missouri coach,
kind of thinking about the other levels at play in
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going on many years, Dan, where we've seen schools realigne

(02:15:33):
and conferences expand contract boot members. Maybe not so much
as a here's a statement. We're tired of you go
beat it, but behind the scenes, you know what's desirable
what's not. It seems like we're doing a lot of
handwringing this time around, much like the coaches did with
nil and all of those things. The crying, for lack

(02:15:59):
of a better term, coming out of you know, Pac
twelve country, which we're part of. Even going back to
when USC and UCLA announced their departure for the Big ten,
it's it's been very loud and it seems like a
lot of folks are trying to kick the can down
the road to the next guy of who's to blame?
How these this timeline really can't because it's not as

(02:16:21):
accelerated as it looks. Right. It's like the water drips,
drips and drips, and then eventually, you know, your ceiling
caves in from being waterlocked. It's kind of the same
thing here. It just all happened and finally gets announced
in that short period of time.

Speaker 3 (02:16:37):
Yes, and I think the USC and UCLA departures where
the that's the pipe breaking and then whether the ceiling
ends up caving in like it did or having the
tiles fall through this Pack twelve conference. Realistically, I don't
think Mike could have survived any magnificant length of time

(02:17:01):
without those two schools.

Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
Well, and they probably get booted out, like just based
on relevance from any consideration of the college football playoffs
and such. Right, you've got deals in place, but as
we know, contracts and everything can be ripped up, rewritten,
and reworked. Here's your buy out beat it, which is
what all these schools are looking at. But the idea

(02:17:24):
that you know, bringing in any school West Coast or
whoever you poached or or added from another part of
the country, where's going to keep you in the top
standing that upper tier. I mean, this is ranking quarterbacks
for your fantasy sheet. This guy doesn't rank as a
teer water or Tier two. And for the Pac twelve,

(02:17:45):
that's where we're at. So the question becomes, when does
that new conference with Cal and Stanford and Northwestern and
Vanderbilt and those other schools start to get put together.

Speaker 3 (02:17:55):
Yeah, it's a good question, Mike, because maybe that's where
we're headed, and there's there are a couple of things
that are still hanging out there. The Big Ten is
now at eighteen eighteen schools, So is eighteen the number
you want to sit at or does twenty seem to
be more of the number that you want to go to,
or is twenty four that number that you want to

(02:18:17):
go to? Eighteen to me just seems odd. I've never
heard anybody say we want to expand to eighteen schools,
even in talking with the SEC when they expand to
sixteen with Texas and Oklahoma coming on board. Add if
you added Florida State and Clemson, I think that you'd say,
all right, well that goes the ACC. Who else can
we get from the conference and the SEC? And all

(02:18:41):
of this is interesting to me because they are quiet.
Some people have noticed that they haven't been is maybe active.
And when we found out that they were scheming behind
the Big twelves back and trying to determine a college
football playoff, all while raiding Oklahoma and Texas from from
their closet, I wouldn't I wouldn't put anything past the SEC.

(02:19:03):
And what's going on, so much drama happening right now
in Tallahassee at Florida State putting up a stink about
their future. I think North Carolina is a school that
both the Big Ten and SEC would love to have,
But the SEC being quiet, in all of this is
to me really interesting. Not that they were to add

(02:19:24):
a PAC twelve school, but I just don't think that
they would. I just don't think that they would stand
pat And with the noise that's going around Florida State
right now, I just find that their silence is a
bit eerie.

Speaker 2 (02:19:37):
Yeah, the Florida State North Carolina verbal slap fight back
and forth and statements was kind of entertaining, little side
stage kind of thing exhibition. You know, Florida State talking
about their value and like you go deep into the numbers.
I guess it's there from the performance of the main
athletic programs that we're talking about football and basketball, some

(02:20:02):
success at least tournament births from the basketball side. From
the football side, you had your first good year in
a while, yet you're chirpy. It's kind of like the
Oregon head coach. I've been here a year, but I
represent a school with great passion and history, so I'm
going to kick these guys on their way out the door.
But it just becomes the interesting dominoes. So if Florida

(02:20:25):
State were say to leave, well, what's to say, you know,
Clemson's not next, and and where do they get sucked
up into this world. You know, are they the you know,
eighteenth team for the SEC When it's all said.

Speaker 3 (02:20:39):
And you know, it is said in the Board of
Trustees meeting for Florida State, one of the people that
spoke said, listen, we don't we don't sell out our
stadium unless Miami's coming to town and Clemson's coming to
town and so and that that's a reflection. It's it's
a it's it's a slight reflection on Florida State, but

(02:20:59):
it's the bigger reflection on what the ACC is bringing
in opponent wise for you. That's the issue. I have
a buddy who has season tickets, you know, to Wisconsin games,
and he keeps them, but there are certain years that
there weren't games that he would go to.

Speaker 2 (02:21:16):
You'd have one or two games out of a full
home slate that would be worth going.

Speaker 3 (02:21:19):
That's you know, like like may like if Michigan and
Ohio State weren't on the home schedule, which they weren't,
You're in and year out and you're at Iowa. You know,
maybe the home game against Minnesota ends up being the
best game of the year, and it's like, why am
I I don't I don't care that Illinois is coming
to Camp Randall, you know, and and so like there

(02:21:41):
are like there are times where some of these schools
have lost seasons schedule wise, Mike, And when you go
to the SEC, it's not going to be lost. It
will not be lost. And I'm I'm talking about a
Big Ten school that's dealing with that. So, you know,
it's more reflection about the ACC and and what they
don't provide. And I think that the ACC, realistically, outside

(02:22:02):
of the run that Clemson had, that the Big Twelve
has been the better conference in its recent you know,
additions than what the ACC has provided. I mean, the
success of Oklahoma, the success of Baylor, the success of
TCU getting to this National Championship game, like it's all comparable,

(02:22:23):
and if you look at it as a whole, I
think that the Big Twelve provided more for college football
than the ACC did. And so if I am one
of those proudy CEC schools in Florida State and Clemson
and you know, North Carolina or Miami, I would be
looking elsewhere because there's only so much your league's going
to provide.

Speaker 2 (02:22:40):
Well, I think you got to have to, right just
in general, you should always be looking to improve your lot,
whatever the case may be. Right, we're all looking at
jobs and your careers whatever you do out there. However
you're listening. We appreciate you being part of the family,
but you're always trying to figure out how to better
your job. Even if you're staying with the people that
you're working for. Four, how do you make it a

(02:23:01):
more challenging and lucrative place for you? And certainly the
college landscape, it's always evolving. It's just a matter of
whether it's the glacial move or something that happens quickly.
And right now you're at an opportunity and a weird
place in the history. Look, I love tradition as much
as the next guy. We celebrate the the colors and

(02:23:24):
pageantry of these old school logos and uniforms and end
zones and stuff, and you and I talk about that
a lot. But change is inevitable and you're either on
board or you're left behind. And that's life in general.

Speaker 3 (02:23:36):
And I would also say this, for as great as
things are with the Big twelve right now, realistically, if
you gave any of those schools an invite to the
Big ten or the sec they would go.

Speaker 2 (02:23:47):
They's gone in a heartbeat. Yes, yeah, those are the
behemoths when you get down to it. Hey, we want
to take a moment. We want to welcome in our
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Charlotteville's Fox Sports one oh two point nine FM and
fourteen fifty AM. Welcome to the party. Continued expansion. I
want to talk a little bit more college college football,
college sports talk about Missouri's head coach joined in December

(02:24:32):
of twenty nineteen. He had some thoughts about the secondary
costs to this, right, dollars and cents, because we're talking
about TV deals. Here's fifty million dollars here, twenty million
dollars there, what's Apple offering all of these things? He
pulled back and he wanted to make sure we addressed
the student part of this process.

Speaker 3 (02:24:50):
I thought the portal was closed, Oh, that's just for
the student athletes. The adults in the room get to
do whatever they want apparently, and it's look, my question is, did.

Speaker 4 (02:25:03):
We count the cost.

Speaker 3 (02:25:04):
I'm not talking about a financial cost. I'm talking about
did we count the cost for the student athletes involved
in this decision?

Speaker 1 (02:25:11):
We're talking about a football decision.

Speaker 3 (02:25:13):
They based off football.

Speaker 2 (02:25:14):
But what about softball and baseball who have to travel
cross country?

Speaker 3 (02:25:20):
Do we ask about the cost of them?

Speaker 8 (02:25:21):
Do we know what the number one indicator of symptom
of or cause who mental health is.

Speaker 3 (02:25:26):
It's lack of rest and sleep traveling in those baseball
softball games.

Speaker 8 (02:25:32):
You know those people, they travel commercial, They get done
playing at four, they got to go to the airport.

Speaker 2 (02:25:37):
They come back, it's three or four in the morning,
they got to go to class.

Speaker 3 (02:25:43):
I mean, did we ask any of them?

Speaker 2 (02:25:47):
Well, I mean, look, if you ask them, maybe look
at anybody. If my schedule is going to be affected
to some degree, then yes, as an individual, I may
bristle as in certainly if I am into my creature, comforts,
et cetera. Is that where we're at? I mean, I
don't think there's a player's union to say, hey, you've

(02:26:09):
got to talk to us, right this isn't the NFLPA,
the you know for franchise tags and all of those
things that you collectively bargain. It's like you took a
scholarship subject to the rules and schedules. I recognize, Look,
you don't want to be cold about it, but you know,
how much would you accomplish necessarily from that other than

(02:26:31):
here's the schedule that I keep on a daily basis. Well,
we already know that because coaches run their schedules of
practice and film study around it.

Speaker 3 (02:26:41):
There's I appreciate Eli Drinkwitz saying that he is concerned
for the student athlete and the mental wellbeing. And I
think that is a big deal, and it shouldn't just
be because of what is happening. It should also be
in their current in general. Sure, I mentioned the Wisconsin

(02:27:03):
softball schedule earlier in the show on Where They're Gone,
I brought up Purdue baseball. Purdue baseball started this past season,
Mike on February seventeenth, playing in Sugarland, Texas. They ended
up playing four games there. The next weekend they were
in North Carolina. They were playing you know, four or
five games there. Then they ended up going to North

(02:27:26):
North Carolina again. Then they were in Oxford, Mississippi. They
didn't play a home game or a game in their
own backyard until March fifteenth. She had a full month
of the season where they're away and not just next door,
you know, down in Mississippi, down in Texas, over in
North Carolina. And granted, I get that the flight from

(02:27:49):
West Lafayette, you know, to North Carolina is maybe an
hour and a half, give or take, and it's different
than a five hour flight, but we have taken these
schools that are cold weather schools, and when you play
spring sports, you are gone for places for a month.
So it's not it's completely out of the realm of

(02:28:09):
something that they haven't dealt with before. There are others
track luckily as indoor, and so there's indoor facilities that
they can and there's stuff to move. I understand travel's
going to be a big part of it, but this
isn't just anything that's just new. You think it was
easy for Nebraska go to Rutgers, you know, as it
was like, yeah, that's a problem enough for you to
deal with.

Speaker 2 (02:28:29):
Yeah. I think the other part of it is, you know,
much like we've talked about it a lot with the
changing face of academics online and the ability to do coursework,
and certainly during COVID, the good, the bad, the ugly
of that got highlighted. In my own house. I watched
that go in two very different directions with my daughters,

(02:28:49):
one who loved it because, well, if the teachers are
kind of going half tilt on it and giving you
time to do your homework in classicis what you were
done as soon as the final bell rang and you
had the rest of the day to yourself. My older
daughter struggled with it a little bit needed just these
people in the physical space to keep that engagement full on.

(02:29:10):
Folks are going to react differently, but it doesn't change
the fact that I can sit in my underwear at
home and get a college degree if I put in
the time. Likewise, here you're in a place for multiple days.
You're not flying all right, one game here at one
game there, when like you know, we talk about football
and basketball, it's like, all right, you're in the city,
you fly there, you play your game, fly back, or

(02:29:32):
maybe you're there for a day. This is your setting
up shop for a few days, which means you can
get your study habits down you can get your course.
I mean I watch it with my daughter's travel soccer team.
It's all right, here's homework time, and there's a block
put into their day and if you don't utilize it,
well though, well that's on you. And we all love

(02:29:53):
our creature comforts. But part of it, and the thresholds
that you have as an athlete in college, high school,
going all the way through is adaptability and your resolve
and resiliency. And that's just part of it. Is it
a test, no question, but it's a test that you've
been passing all the way through.

Speaker 3 (02:30:12):
You You can also say that he was able to
make the comments because it was not his conference at
this time that is making those additions. And it's not
like the SEC is going to go to the Pacific
Northwest and bring in Oregon State and Washington State. Now
that's not going to happen. Their expansion is likely to
just be a little bit broader, whether it be you know,
if they end up doing so. So I think that

(02:30:32):
makes it easier for him to make those comments. I
just not to sit on the fence about it, Mike.
He's got legitimate points about the health and well being
of it, but it wasn't his conference doing it, And
there is enough travel going on around right now that
maybe you know too much in college sports, so it's
not necessarily new a new thing that they're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (02:30:53):
Well, and check your house now as to how your school,
your conference addresses those concerns which are already present turn
your day. So maybe that's a call to action for
his school and for the SEC as well. He's Dan Byer.
I'm by Carbon here Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio.
Coming up next, we've got to Fight Night, some Pokemon

(02:31:15):
shenanigans from an ex NFL player, and the play of
the day. But first we got to hear from Isaac Lologrow.

Speaker 7 (02:31:20):
Give it up the much trending and unfortunately, as much
as we wish it was just a middle of the
night nightmare, it was the reality. Because on Sunday, Sweden
eliminated Team USA from the Women's World Cup in the
round of sixteen and a penalty kick shootout. They were
scoreless after regulations, scoreless after overtime, and then Sweden won

(02:31:41):
the shootout five to four. The shootout winning goals scored
by Sweden's Lena Hertig crossed the line, so minimally that
it actually had to be confirmed by a var replay review.
Now earlier we played you how those moments sounded on Fox.
Here is how the shootout goal, the hesitation and then

(02:32:02):
the ultimate confirmation sounded in Sweden. Here are Andreas Motts
and Johann Elmander on Radio Sporten in Sweden.

Speaker 12 (02:32:14):
It's heynique to that team. Then we put bag any
monus to Florida.

Speaker 7 (02:32:29):
Stud It is the earliest to Team USA has ever
been eliminated from the Women's World Cup. They were seating
a three beat in this match. By the way, they
had eleven shots on goal to just one for Sweden.
In fact, Team USA allowed just two shots on goal
the entire tournament in four matches, but offensively, they scored

(02:32:52):
just one goal over their final three matches. In the NFL,
the Buffalo Bills today activated defensive tackle Jordan Phillips off
the physically able to perform list, and one Major League
baseball game going on right now. The Chicago White Sox
a two nothing lead at Cleveland in the top half
of the third inning. No fights yet to report back
to you, guys.

Speaker 2 (02:33:13):
I was gonna say they got the opening below with
that two nothing lead. Let's go see how the counter
comes back at Isaac Low and Gron where you find him.
He's got some highlights of his calling the NWSL Angel
City Squad as well, so check that out. Give him
some love at Dan Byer on Fox Find me at
Swollen Dome in the World of It Twitter slash x.

(02:33:37):
I'm still having trouble with it, just say X. But yeah,
we've got the play of the night, play of the
day as it were, because it was overnight into the
early morning, and then we talk a little fight night
coming up. I love Spectacle. I sat and watched SummerSlam. Yeah,
that's how I prepped for the US women's national team.
I'm proud of it. And we'll talk about all of

(02:33:58):
that as we wrap up up for our time here
on Fox Sports Sunday. Next hearteg.

Speaker 4 (02:34:07):
To go in waiting the signal. You gotta be kidding,
they're waiting.

Speaker 3 (02:34:17):
Bire gonna check.

Speaker 5 (02:34:19):
Var cam hitter being I couldn't talk from here. I
thought it was going in, but it happened so quickly. Wow,
Swig wins. That's your progressive play of the day.

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Big Fox on the call. Maybe you're just waking up
to the news that the United States has been eliminated
from the Women's World Cup nil nil regulation overtime and

(02:35:02):
to lose in PKS Sophia Smith, something we talked about.
We just watched the replay of it again. The stare,
the thousand yards stare of this moment is immense, and
so sailes it over the bar. Megan Rapino, whatever you
think of her in the moment, she makes the critical

(02:35:25):
error over the bar.

Speaker 3 (02:35:27):
Hadn't missed a penalty kick since twenty eighteen in the NWSL.
That was the last time she missed a penalty kick
until earlier today.

Speaker 2 (02:35:38):
So Sweden advances. We've been watching the rest of the
entertainment of the Round of sixteen US now gone goes
back to the old rules.

Speaker 1 (02:35:49):
Up.

Speaker 2 (02:35:49):
Take care of your business, right, just like you want
to win your division in your respective sport. Of course
I don't have divisions in our Big ten anymore, Dan,
but you know you have. You got to take carry
of business. They didn't win their group, so they get
a different start time. We'll talk about the schedule. A
lot made about the TV schedule that was to come. Well,

(02:36:11):
it doesn't matter anymore because you're gone.

Speaker 3 (02:36:13):
I there is a sense and if you are moving
eras and there are going to be new names in
twenty twenty seven. So losing the round of sixteen, I
do think in the long term, Mic and I know
it's how they lost today, and you wonder what could
have been, but if this would have happened in the
final match, Not that it's not going to stick with them,

(02:36:36):
but I just think it's harder to change eras. I
think this happening, how it played out, actually makes that
transition easier. It's not easier today, reset, Yeah, and it's
not easier for those who have maybe played their last match.
You know, Julie RT's retiring, it's done. You know, Megan
Repino's going to be done. It's may not be easier
for them, but I think on the grand scheme of things,

(02:36:59):
it will end up being easier that way.

Speaker 2 (02:37:01):
Now you've got Smith who will now grow no doubt
from this. You've got Thompson, you've got Mercario that'll come
back from injury. So you've got some some bass going forward,
but you recognize that the rest of the world, while
you've kind of had this this machine running, has caught
up a bit and now in some ways has passed you.

(02:37:23):
Sweden moves on and we talk about the rest of
the World Cup that you'll be able to see on
Fox and FS one. Dan Jake Paul fought last night
against Nate Diez. And every time there's an event like this,
people wring their hands about the state of a sport.
It's just an exhibition. It's just it's like good because

(02:37:44):
people actually talk about your sport for a minute. Sure,
no disrespect to people that are hardcore boxing fans. I
think the two can run in parallel. It's like cash
grab eyeballs, social media wins. As long as you figure
out a way to tie it together and tie them
back to you in some respect, you get you can
get some shine off of what they do.

Speaker 3 (02:38:06):
I think that when you look at boxing, just you
don't have to even go back to yesterday. Just go
back to a week ago the Crawford Spence fight. I
mean everybody was talking about that. So the fight last
night is not an a diatment on boxing. I think
it's just fine. And as he said, it actually can help.
There was a time where golf was dying and they're like, oh,

(02:38:27):
foot golf, Well that's a joke. This golf who cares
it may not put you on the course to swing
a set of clubs, but there are ways to keep
you involved. And yeah, I'm totally fine with it. Just
live with it, accept it for what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:38:41):
Yeah, it's you know, they had the great doubleheader, did
the Paul Brothers, because you had summer slam with a
little bit of brass knuckle on it to win a matchup,
and trying to get the man's name, you know, fiance
to announce him as the winner. She was reticent.

Speaker 3 (02:38:58):
I missed that.

Speaker 2 (02:39:00):
Yeah, yeah, I'll catch up. Plenty of time to do
that as we go. And then Blake Martinez remember him
playing in the NFL, started flipping Pokemon cards. Evidently, he said,
got some shenanigans going on there. We'll update that story
because legal practice is coming into play. He's Dad, I'm Mike.
He got Steven Rich coming up next year on Fox.

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