August 12, 2023 • 41 mins
TJ & Plaxico talk about Russell Wilson get some extended run in the preseason, Ron Rivera’s comments about Eric Bieniemy’s coaching style, the 49ers contingency plan last year, college realignment, and more!
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Second hour a lot of football, delve into love college football,
but we'll stay in the professional ranks the majority of
the hour and get to some college football later in
the show. A lot of eyes will be on one
Russell Wilson and Sean Payton in Denver.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Seen the first action of them together last night, and it.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Was kind I was surprised, and I said, I was
surprised because Russell Wilson, who's been in the NFL for
quite a while, over a decade, and he played like
you normally don't see guys that have played that long
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in the league and been a starter. Since a rookie
play that much in the prese that doesn't matter if
it's a new head coach or not. And I thought
Russ played well. I know they better figure out that
offensive line because I know they played the Arizona Cardinals
and I haven't heard many say that the Arizona Cardinals
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defensive line was the next coming of the Chicago Bears
eighty five team or the forty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Ers of years past.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
And now they had Russell Wilson under pressure the whole game.
I mean, it was they got to get that figured out.
But if you're Sean Payton, Russell Wilson fans of the Broncos,
what's your takes. Are you encouraged, discouraged or you would
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like to see more? Because he didn't play bad. Russell
Wilson was. He was solid, but again he didn't have
the protection. He was hit a lot seven for thirteen
ninety three yards, but he did throw a touchdown on
Jerry Judy.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I'm looking for rust. I'm looking for the old Russell
Wilson to re emerge, is what I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You think we'll ever see that? I will.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I believe that him playing in Nathaniel Hackett system last year,
it was kind of a shock to his system. I
was just you know, watching some of the games that
he was playing last year and guys were literally standing
like five ten yards in front of him and they
were wide open, but he was throwing the ball elsewhere outside.
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So that showed me that he hadn't grasped the concept
of the offense. And I just think him learning a
new offense, which he is again this year, learning a
new offense last year. When you're in the office for
so long, you kind of it just becomes like breathing,
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It becomes a nature, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
And from a quarter back standpoint, to go from different
terminology to a new team and to a new offense,
new offensive coordinator, and being able to try to put
that all together under duress, UH playing quarterback positions, which
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is which is the hardest position to play in any
professional sport. He he looked like a duck out of water.
And I'm saying to him myself that you know that
they made the thing hacke at escapegoat because I don't
believe that he was a great fit for him UH
in Denver teaming up with Russell. But I just think
that that we call Sean Payton the quarterback Whisperer, and
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I think that's if it's any coach offensively from a
quarterback and standpoint that can get anybody, even a Russell
Wilson back to looking a version of a version of
himself a few years ago, it is Sean Payton, and
I believe you know, he'll be tough on him, and
he would expect nothing but Russell Wilson to come in
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the building every day continuously to work hard and to
get better and to lead this team and to put
a productive product out on a football field on Sundays.
Because last year it was absolutely terrible. I've never seen
Russell Wilson even look like that ever, So I think
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that he'll be better. Sean Payton will make him better,
but that it is in a tough division, man, I mean,
look at the quarterbacks of this division with you, Patrick
Mahomes and Justin Herbert. I think they're still going to
be the third best team in division, but they will
win more than five games that they won last year
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just due to the simple fact that Sean Payton is
now the head coach.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, Sean Payton is a great cause.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
When Sean Payton has shown he can win with so
many different style of quarterbacks. Obviously, when you think Sean Payton,
you think Drew Brees. He won with Drew Brees and
they won big, won a Super Bowl, had a lot
of success in New Orleans. Okay, Drew Brees goes. Let
me get Jameis Winston. I'm gonna win with Jamis. He
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won with Jamis.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Okay, let me get Teddy Bridgwater. I'm gonna win with
Teddy Bridgewater. Let me get Taysom Hill. I'm gonna win
with Taysom Hill and the last three guys. Nobody would
put those guys in the same category as Russell Wilson.
So if Sean Payton can win with Jameis Winston, Teddy
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Bridgewater and Taysom Hill, if he cannot win.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
With Russell Wilson, this won't go on Sean Payton. This
will all be on Russell Wilson. And I believe that's
why he played so much in the preseason last night
is just get a feel for the offense. Let's get
your timing.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's just.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Putting out the plays in the huddle. Santa plays in
a huddle, making sure it's smooth, you're comfortable, because it's
just rare you see a guy of Russell Wilson's accomplishments
and stature play this long in the first preseason game.
And when we played Plex, everybody played the preseason. This
is a different error. Starters don't play the preseason much
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anymore unless you have an old school coach like a
Sean payn to Belichick and Andy Reid type. These new
coaches man starters ain't playing at all. They don't even
play us, they don't even suit up. And so this
will all be on Russell Wilson because Sean Payton is
shown I can do it with any type of quarterback
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it doesn't matter. And I believe again Russell Wilson playing
these preseason games is to get him feeling comfortable in
game speed under what Champayne wants to get accomplished.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But again, it wasn't a.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Bad game, but he's gonna have to be better because
you play the Chiefs, you gotta score points. You play
the Chargers, you gotta score points because we assume those
offenses are going to score points and you got to
be able to keep up with them. So I'm optimistic
that it would work because there's just no way Russell
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Wilson was as good as he was in Seattle, and
he was just that bad last year. You got to
give Pete Carroll a ton of credit. The way Russell
looked with Seattle, the way Gino looked last year, and
then the way Russell looked last year, I mean, you gotta.
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I mean, the common denominator is Pete Curll wasn't with them,
and Pete Curle was with Gino. It's you have to
give him his credit that he knew his players deficiencies,
but he played to their strengths. He knew his weaknesses,
but he played to a stremps. And we didn't really
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like people saying Russell Wilson was a surefire.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Hall of Famer. I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
That's the case now unless he can get back on
one bast season.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It wasn't one bad season.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
It was like whoa, because Russell Wilson is not just
going to play one bad season. If he can't turn
this around, it'd be multiple and then it would be
what everybody was saying, Oh man, the legion to boom
carried that what his teammates were saying, they gave him
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too much credit. All we should have handed it to Marshaw,
went too soon. That's going to be the narrative.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And so if Russell Wilson does not turn it around
with Sean Payton, he might have cost himself a chance
at the Hall of Fame because of that.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, I think he still.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Has some more time, though I don't think that we
and just put him in a box and say was
he a Hall of Famer before he went to Denver?
That's the question that needs to be asked.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But you know how this thing works, I would say
he was.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
But when you fall off that fast, I mean, I
think Chad should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
But he ain't.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
He don't even make the finalists. Chad was one of
the top three receivers in the league for five or
six years.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Straight.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yeah, but look, hey, he can't even be a finalist
because when he went to New England, it was like, wait, wait, wait,
what is this?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Do you see the weight list that's in front of him?
Getting off, getting off topic, We way off to we ate.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
We've been taking tangents all day, so we gonna take
another one.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Bruh.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
You could see the weight list in front of him.
But all those guys that's in front of him, were
they a top three receiver at any point of their
career for five or six years straight? I say no, Reggie,
I say no, Reggie, Andre and t Hoe were they
top three receivers for six years?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
It doesn't it doesn't go that way.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I'm just saying that this is the Hall of Fame now,
Andre Johnson, he should be in the Hall of Fame, bro,
no question. Reggie Wayne has a great case to be
in the Hall of Fame. Reggie Wayne foteen hundred receptions,
fourteen thousand yards plex.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Reggie Wayne can play.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
But you got to understand when Reggie Wayne, I don't less.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I don't look at the numbers because his numbers is there.
You can't go off the numbers with Reggie Wayne. I
think he played sixteen years. You can't go off numbers
with Reggie Wayne because those are there. I go off
of and Reggie I think is going to get in
and he should be in. I will say, let me
say that. What about Tea Hope. That's another thing. And
I didn't notice until you know, you start doing a
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lot of TV plex. Te Hope is part of an
offense that kind of changed the way the NFL started
playing offenses. Te Holt was a six time pro bowler.
They say he was alternate four those six or three
of oh six, some of that nature. So now the
kind of thing is like, WHOA, but you when you
played how many years?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You played twelve? Right plex?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah, when you played thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years, your numbers
are going to be Steve Smith, he played fifteen sixteen years.
When you play that long, you're gonna have the numbers
because they're not letting you play that long if you
not playing. So your Chad played eleven years and from
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two thousand and two to two thousand and seven, he
was a top five receiver every single year that I
just named two thousand and two to two thousand and seven.
None of those guys that we just spoke of can
say that. None of them, Not one of them. Maybe
Andre Johnsondre Johnson, Yeah maybe dra yup, he'd only won.
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Nobody else on that list was a top five receiver
in the league that period of time. So if you
were consistent, only that good, you gotta get in. That's
just my criteria. Now, my criteria obviously isn't the criteria
that they go by, but that's mine. And back to Russell,
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he gonna have to show that he can play without
Pete Carroll as as head coach and running the ball
and defense. And he's gonna have to show that because
last year was so bad. And you can say it
was Nathaniel Hackett, but Aaron Rodgers plays great with Nathaniel Hackett.
Or is just Aaron Rodgers just heading shoulders better than
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Russell Wilson. I mean, there's just so many ways you
can go about this, but I will say this, Sean Payton,
if you can't get it done with him, it's tough.
But yeah, hey, for y'all that are listening. We keep
going off on we making right turns and left turns.
But hey, if the topic takes us there, that's where
we go. But these Hall of Fame conversations, I enjoy
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them because I feel God and obviously I'm biased to
guys that I played with, and I think everybody is.
I think Corey Dillon should be in. He won a
Super Bowl, was a monster. He just he hadn't been
given his just dude, Willie Anderson should be in. As
you see, I'm going with guys that I played with
the Bengals. Those three guys should be in. But Chad
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to me is a no brainer. Two thousand and two
to two thousand and seven. Look up the stats, top
five receiver every single year those years. That's period that
I agree with you. All the fame is greatness for
a period of time. Five years. I think that's a
good period of time. That's just that's just me again.
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buying should be plex I don't know what's going on
with today's player. I hate to say that, like they
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just so different, but the coaching, I believe the seven
on seven everybody wants to win. These kids get pampered
along the way, and these kids in turn turn up
to they grow up to be grown men, and you
just used to having your butt kids, having all coaches
your entire life, kisha butt. And then you get a
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hard nosed coach like Eric beIN and me, and they like, hey, hey, hey,
Coach Rivera, he kind of mean to us. I don't
like this. What's your take on? Just like, why would
Ron Rivera say that publicly? Is it to admonish his
players or is it to tell the enemy? You know,
pull back a little bit. Well, first of all, Ron
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Rivera hired him, so he knew what he was bringing
to the organization. And the offensive coordinator in Eric be
Enemy and you know there has been you know, discussions
of how Eric beni, Eric Bennemy coaches his players and
his offense. Obviously we heard some things come out with
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Deshaun McCoy and you know how he talks to guys
and how he coaches and his approach. And I agree
with you one hundred When I came into the league,
my first head coach was Bill Kauer, and he was
as tough as a head coach on you from a
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football standpoint, because he wanted to get nothing but the
best out of you for the team. And you understood
that the way he went about his job, because he
went about it in a manner that you knew from
a personal standpoint from every player that lined up on
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that team in all three phases, offensive, defensive, a special teams,
that he was actually that teaching you the game of football,
and if it came off to you rather harsh.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Then you had to deal with it. And you loved
that in him because you knew, like there was no
drop off when the whistle blew and we were out
of practice. Man, he was the nicest man that you
had ever met in your life, but on the football
field as far as him coaching and wanted to get
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the best out of you for the team and you
personally to make the team better.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You understood that.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
And that is what has gone away from a younger
generation as players. You know, with everything that has happened,
we've been fighting for these guys to get paid. Now
they getting nil deals and that they're making substantial amounts
of money in college now before they even get to
the pros. So they are getting the ass kissed in
college and going to the pros, and I think it's
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gonna be sweet. So now you run into a coach
like Eric b Enemy and now he's you know, he's
a he's hard nosed and he's getting on you about
the job that you're supposed to be doing and perfecting
your craft. And now the coach is going to the headcase. Yo, man,
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Bene me?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, you know what, Eric Bennemy is proven as officer coordinator.
Look at what he has done in Kansas City. Everybody said,
oh this Patrick Mahomes and his aid to read, No,
this man was actually a play calling for this offense.
I mean, let's get this man the respect that he
deserves as an officer coordinator. But I think that he
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will offensively for Washington. They will turn it around and
he will continue to be him. Like he said he
I'm not going to change. I'm going to coach guys hard,
to let them realize and recognize who they are as players,
to make this officer team better. I'm not here to
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be nobody's friends. I'm here to do a job. And
the young guys have a problem with it. I love
it because when you go to practice every day as
a player and you know that the coach he doesn't
have an off switch when he's on a football field, coach,
you have to bring your best to practice every day
or otherwise you're going to be He's going to talk
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to you in front of the team and let everybody
know that you are not doing your job to the
fullest of your ability. And that is what these young
players have are missing these days in college going to
the professional level, because now it's just you know what
I mean. You come into the league, all right, you know,
I'm trying. I'm trying to get to the bag. I'm
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trying to play a few years whatever, whatever, And that
is what the new generation is.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
But for what Eric beni me.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Is doing as a as an offensive courtinator in Washington,
and the players have a problem with it. I love
it because he's pushing them and it makes them uncomfortable.
You have to be uncomfortable as a player if you
want to continue to get better.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
You know what I don't like plex is the fact
that they went to Ron Rivera, Like, really, bro, you
gonna go to Royn Rivera if you feel this way,
why can't you go to be any me yourself? Like,
be a man. We all men here. Yeah, he's the coach,
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Be a man and go handle it yourself. Why do
you go to the head coach because he's coaching me
too hard. He's showing at me like we come from
an there when coaches all they did was yell at you.
So we were used to that, and I get today's
player they're not used to that, but we are all men.
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You should not have to go to the head coach.
You should go straight to be enemy's office. And the
same thing that you said to coach Ron Rivera, you
should say to being to me, I don't respond well
to all the yelling or whatever it may be that
he's doing that.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
They don't like.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Take that up with the man that's doing it instead
of going to somebody else. That's the only thing that
bothers me. Today's player is different. You can't coach them
the same way we got coached. I get that they're
not used to that, but you do not. And you
should not go behind his back and tell the head coach.
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But you should take that up with him. But I
don't know what Ron Rivera gets out of saying is publicly.
Is he trying to shame as players and say tough enough?
Because Ron Rivera comes from that era of he got
coached hard, I'm sure he coaches hard. Doesn't seem like
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he's much of a yeller, but I'm sure he got
it coming up.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Which that's what we got. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
With that being said, I don't think Ron Rivera would
have hired been the Eric beenemy if he didn't notice
about him. Look at the two different coaches of where
he was and where he's at now in Kansas City.
You didn't hear not one single player saying now that
Eric b Enemy was yelling or screaming or coaching them
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too hard.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
In Kansas City. But but look at what they've accomplished.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Now, you go to Washington where the coaches, where the
coaches is in complete disarray of an organization and trying
to put a product on the football field that can
compete on Sundays. And now look at look at what
these players are saying. That is the first red flag
to me, that's what I don't like. Yeah, that's what
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I don't like is if you're part of that offensive
unit in Washington and the lack of success that you've
had as an offense, because the defense has been pretty
solid in Washington, the lack of success that you've had
as an offense, that you really have the nerve to
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go complain to the head coach because you're being coached
too hard or he's yelling too much.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I don't even want those guys on my team because
you're showing me that you're not trying to push yourself
past a certain limit or you can't take it. So
I don't know who these players are. Are they your
main players on the team, you really rely on them.
It's really nothing you can do, but I'm with you.
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They need that that offen, needs that tough love, that
kicking and you know what to get going. But to
complain about it, I'm like, wow, I wish I knew
who the players were. Ron Rivera does, and those players
better be really good because they won't be.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
In Washington long. They won't be.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Nobody will be in Washington long after this season.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Well, if they don't win, obviously, it's gonna be a
whole new regime.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And that's why you need to change the entire culture.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
And if it starts with coaching them hard, then it
starts with coaching them hard.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Deal.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
It's unfortunate that they put that. Eric ben Mey is
is in this situation that is in because I think
moving forward, Washington knows that they're are worst team in
the division and Kayla City will do well. They will
play well obviously because of you know, Patrick Mahomes as
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being the best player in football and Eric being to
me take it's a job where Damn Snyder's fired. Josh
Harris has gone on the record and say, oh, there
will be changes in Washington and they're not going to
win this year just because of the division that they're in.
They're not gonna make the playoffs. They're gonna be the
worst team in the division. And everybody's going to be
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being saying the same thing. What did I tell you
about Eric b enemy Patrick Mahomes and to remade him.
And he's going to be put in a tough position
after this year if they don't win with Josh Harris
and a new ownership wanted to move on and fall
from Rob Rivera. What's that Once that happens, Eric Binny
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would be out of a job and it's just an
unfortunate situation for him moving forward. He knows it, and
I think everybody everybody knows it that Washington is not
a good football team.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
On himself and I know this point, at this point,
he hasn't been given an opportunity, so he has no
other choice.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Put the bet on himself. What'sh him the best?
Speaker 5 (28:02):
But y'all boys in Washington, yall, y'all gotta shape up
and we got to get the eye low with this
trend in.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
We got two preseason games going on right now to
tell you about. The Buffalo Bills. Fellas have a seven
to nothing lead over the Indianapolis Colts with six minutes
left to play and the first quarter. Colts rookie number
four overall draft pick Anthony Richardson got the start. He
completed his first two passes, his third pass intercepted by
Buffalo's Dan Jackson, who returned at twenty yards to the
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Colt thirteen yard line. The Bill scored two plays later
on an eight yard touchdown run by James Cook. Right now,
Richardson three out of five for eighteen yards. One other
note about this game. We're happy to say DeMar Hamlin
back on the field as we speak for the Buffalo Bills. Meanwhile,
at Soldier Field, Chicago, the Bears and Tennessee Titans tied
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at seven with two seventeen left to play. In the
first quarter, Tennessee got on the board first on a
two yard touchdown run by quarterback Malik Willis. But then
the Bears came back on a sixty two yard touchdown
pass from Justin Field to Dj Moore. So Fields two
of two four seventy three yards, of course sixty two
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coming on that touchdown. A couple of injuries to tell
you about. ESPN reporting today Cleveland Browns linebacker Jacob Phillips
suffered a torn pectoral muscle last night's preseason game against Washington. Yeah,
going to be out for this season. NFL Media reports
Green Bay Packers tight end and Corps special teamer Tyler
Davis tore his acl during last night's preseason game at Cincinnati.
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One major League baseball game going on right now. It's
game one of a doubleheader. The Atlanta Braves a one
nothing lead against the Mets at City Field. In the
bottom half of the first sitting, fellas back to you.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Man, Hey Planks, you say it on the show and
them Todam bomb Dj Moore that number one.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Ros, guys, guys, I got something else tell you just
happened seconds ago in Chicago. The Bears just struck again,
this time a fifty six yard touchdown pass from Fields
to Khalil Herbert's three touchdowns, telling hey.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Hey see when we say some things on the show, it's.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Gonna be when he he said some things on the
show and then bam right, do not be alarmed if
Justin Fields has one of these great seasons that we
didn't see coming. Something just telling me that this boy's
gonna take a leap man, and that's gonna be huge.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
And you know what's so crazy, man, that football is
such a team sport man because you give a quarterback some.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Weapons and then he really looked like he can quarterback.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Oh yeah, he don't have no weapons, just like, oh
hey what what? That's why football it's ultimate team sport man.
You need eleven guys all doing their job. But you
got some of those eleven that could really do their job.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Right you shine.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And I'm gonna tell you this, Corey Davis and AJ
Brown had Ryn Tannehill looking like he could play quarterback too,
And every since those guys parted in Nashville, he ain't
been looking the same.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So I understand it.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
And you know what it is too, one hundred percent
man receivers and they're getting their due now. When we
were playing it, it was a few. But if you
don't have no receivers, I don't care who the quarterback is.
You in trouble and hey, justin fields keep balling. DJ
Moore came to Chicago in that trade, and I guarantee
(31:46):
everybody in Chicago it's like they pounding eight chances.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Silently, like yes, yes, yes, and we.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Gotta go to this because I don't I don't know
if you heard of This is my first time hearing
about this plex. Recently, Kyle Shanahan said, had they made
the Super Bowl, they were gonna sign Philip Rivers to
beat a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Did you hear that? I heard that.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
We got the sound for Shanahan. Lit's hear from the
man himself.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
He was prepared to Yeah, no, and stuff we talked
about throughout the whole year. You know, we would have
had to see how that was for the Super Bowl,
but that was the plan most of the year.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Now, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
This is a crazy part about that because we know
Perty was hurt. Jimmy G has come out and said
I did not have surgery because I was playing in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
How would that have turned out? Is Jimmy G playing in.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
The Super Bowl or is Philip Rivers playing in the
Super Bowl. Man, these teams and organizations be making plans
behind the scenes. Dad, I wish, I really wish that
the four forty nine ers now would have made it
because I just wanted to see how that would have
panned out, How that would have played out, How would.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Full of Rivers have played?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Would the game have been different with Jimmy G had played,
Like there's just so many different variables. But what do
you think about Shanahan just coming out saying it, I.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Mean, moving forward?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I think they it's crazy that they had a plan
moving forward that to get to the Super Bowl, that
Philip Rivers would be the starting quarterback in this game. Like,
when did you start making this decision or playing putting
this play together? Because Brock perty didn't get hurt until
(33:42):
the NFC the Visual Game. So I'm just confused of
how that even came into the ram or their minds
of a decision making process. That if we get to
the Super Bowl, even though we have Brock parties playing
where he wasn't injured at the time because he said
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they had came up with this plan for some time,
then you have Jimmy G on the roster, and he
didn't get Shurchy because he's gonna play in the super Bowl.
But on the back burner you got Philip Rivers, who
hasn't played in a year and a half because he
retired the year before. You got to think that the
season ended in January of what not this year, but
last year. The super Bowl is thirteen months later. What
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would he have looked though, like not playing in a year?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
And he was.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Touching high school football at the time, but you had
a plan for Philip Rivers to come play quarterback. I
just don't understand how you come up with that. And
brock Perty was what seven and er at the time,
and he wasn't even injured, but you had Philip River,
Philip Rivers coming off the bench at home.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Hey, they must have sent Phillip that good old playbook.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You know, they sent them to playbook. You know, they
sent them to playbook and just kind of get a
little understanding of this terminology, and I man, it's really crazy.
Obviously we didn't get to see if Philip Rivers is
probably done unless something like this arises again. But I
(35:20):
would have loved to have seen him go straight from
the sidelines, coaching and straight on the field to playing
just and I mean Philip Rivers one of the best
quarterbacks of our generation and have a chance to win
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
And you know what, Antonio Chrumaldi brought this to my
attention the other day. It has been done before. And
what player has has done that that that the coach
picked up a player he came in for the Super
Bowl won the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Who was that?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I'm trying to think, I don't know, Eric Weddle, Eric Weddle,
see you know when you said that, I'm thinking offense,
I'm like, what offensive player?
Speaker 4 (36:04):
And it was very very recent to Eric Weddle. Yeah,
three years ago. He was at home living in California.
He had retired from Baltimore the year before, hadn't played
football the whole season, and he called him up for
the Super Bowl and Eric Wedder went out, went out
there and got him another ring. He got two championship
(36:25):
rings with Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
And it always you're very raredy, see it happen on
the defensive side of the balls. Always a quarterback. But
Eric Weddle, and he played a big factor, and you
know from a coach and said, if you paid against Eric.
You know that he's he's going to be in halfway
decent shape because he was just one of those guys
(36:49):
that trained crazy in the offseason, and he's not going
to be a guy that's gonna get out of shape.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
And Seanvay picked up the phone and called him. He
played the Super Bowl to Ring That's yeah. I would
have loved to have seen it with Philip Rivers. It
didn't happen. Forty nine ers didn't make it, but man,
that would have been a great story. We gotta take
a break up on game Plexico Burris, I'm TJ.
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Speaker 2 (38:08):
Before we go?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Man, what is going on with this college football? And
no more Pac ten, Pac twelve Pac foe? So Stanford
and Cal tries to get into ACC. And I believe
it was Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, those
four ACC schools, Nah, we don't want you in it.
Those ports schools said, nah, callin Stanford, win, don't want
(38:32):
you win our conference. What do you make of all
this going on in college football?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You know what? Uh?
Speaker 4 (38:38):
When I heard it, the first thing that jumped out
to me was to travel. I think that was a
no go for the ACC because look at where teams
from Oregon and Stanford have to travel to Like every
other week, that east coast West coast trip is easily
going to be six or seven East West coast trips
(39:01):
for either the ACC team or Stanford in Oregon. So
I don't I didn't. I didn't understand that from a
you know, traveling standpoint. But I think that when UCLA
and USC left the PAC ten. I call it a
Pac ten because you know I'm I'm uh. We all
school with it, yeah, we old school with it. When
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they left, it hurt the conference because those are the
two powerhouse teams that are associated.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Hey, Plex, you know what crazy pack you off real quick?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
After SC and U c l A left, ESPN offered
the PAC twin commissioner thirty million dollars per team per year.
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You know this dummy said no, continue He said no. Yeah,
sc and U c l A left and they.
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Were still offered thirty million per tem per year. And
he said, no.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
How do these people get in the position they're in,
and they don't. They might have great sense in the world,
but they don't have common since. Man, listen, I'm an
East Coast guy. I'm from Virginia. But when USC and
UCLA played when I was growing up, I was watching
that football game. It was almost the Miami Florida state
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rivalry that they had going on that I was even
cognitant of as a young kid growing up. So when
they left the conference, that hurt them. And you look
at Texas and Oklahoma they have left the Big twelve
to go to the SEC and now that has hurt
their conference because those are two of the powerhouse teams
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that have left. So I don't know what's going to
happen from a conference standpoint with the Big twelve and
the Pac ten. I don't know what they're going to do.
But clearly the best conference in football is the Big Ten.
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with the commissioners and the Pac ten Pac twelve. Figure
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Second hour a lot of football, delve into love college football,
but we'll stay in the professional ranks the majority of
the hour and get to some college football later in
the show. A lot of eyes will be on one
Russell Wilson and Sean Payton in Denver.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Seen the first action of them together last night, and it.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Was kind I was surprised, and I said, I was
surprised because Russell Wilson, who's been in the NFL for
quite a while, over a decade, and he played like
you normally don't see guys that have played that long
(01:53):
in the league and been a starter. Since a rookie
play that much in the prese that doesn't matter if
it's a new head coach or not. And I thought
Russ played well. I know they better figure out that
offensive line because I know they played the Arizona Cardinals
and I haven't heard many say that the Arizona Cardinals
(02:14):
defensive line was the next coming of the Chicago Bears
eighty five team or the forty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Ers of years past.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
And now they had Russell Wilson under pressure the whole game.
I mean, it was they got to get that figured out.
But if you're Sean Payton, Russell Wilson fans of the Broncos,
what's your takes. Are you encouraged, discouraged or you would
(02:46):
like to see more? Because he didn't play bad. Russell
Wilson was. He was solid, but again he didn't have
the protection. He was hit a lot seven for thirteen
ninety three yards, but he did throw a touchdown on
Jerry Judy.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I'm looking for rust. I'm looking for the old Russell
Wilson to re emerge, is what I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You think we'll ever see that? I will.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I believe that him playing in Nathaniel Hackett system last year,
it was kind of a shock to his system. I
was just you know, watching some of the games that
he was playing last year and guys were literally standing
like five ten yards in front of him and they
were wide open, but he was throwing the ball elsewhere outside.
(03:34):
So that showed me that he hadn't grasped the concept
of the offense. And I just think him learning a
new offense, which he is again this year, learning a
new offense last year. When you're in the office for
so long, you kind of it just becomes like breathing,
(03:54):
It becomes a nature, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
And from a quarter back standpoint, to go from different
terminology to a new team and to a new offense,
new offensive coordinator, and being able to try to put
that all together under duress, UH playing quarterback positions, which
(04:15):
is which is the hardest position to play in any
professional sport. He he looked like a duck out of water.
And I'm saying to him myself that you know that
they made the thing hacke at escapegoat because I don't
believe that he was a great fit for him UH
in Denver teaming up with Russell. But I just think
that that we call Sean Payton the quarterback Whisperer, and
(04:40):
I think that's if it's any coach offensively from a
quarterback and standpoint that can get anybody, even a Russell
Wilson back to looking a version of a version of
himself a few years ago, it is Sean Payton, and
I believe you know, he'll be tough on him, and
he would expect nothing but Russell Wilson to come in
(05:01):
the building every day continuously to work hard and to
get better and to lead this team and to put
a productive product out on a football field on Sundays.
Because last year it was absolutely terrible. I've never seen
Russell Wilson even look like that ever, So I think
(05:22):
that he'll be better. Sean Payton will make him better,
but that it is in a tough division, man, I mean,
look at the quarterbacks of this division with you, Patrick
Mahomes and Justin Herbert. I think they're still going to
be the third best team in division, but they will
win more than five games that they won last year
(05:42):
just due to the simple fact that Sean Payton is
now the head coach.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, Sean Payton is a great cause.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
When Sean Payton has shown he can win with so
many different style of quarterbacks. Obviously, when you think Sean Payton,
you think Drew Brees. He won with Drew Brees and
they won big, won a Super Bowl, had a lot
of success in New Orleans. Okay, Drew Brees goes. Let
me get Jameis Winston. I'm gonna win with Jamis. He
(06:10):
won with Jamis.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Okay, let me get Teddy Bridgwater. I'm gonna win with
Teddy Bridgewater. Let me get Taysom Hill. I'm gonna win
with Taysom Hill and the last three guys. Nobody would
put those guys in the same category as Russell Wilson.
So if Sean Payton can win with Jameis Winston, Teddy
(06:34):
Bridgewater and Taysom Hill, if he cannot win.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
With Russell Wilson, this won't go on Sean Payton. This
will all be on Russell Wilson. And I believe that's
why he played so much in the preseason last night
is just get a feel for the offense. Let's get
your timing.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's just.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Putting out the plays in the huddle. Santa plays in
a huddle, making sure it's smooth, you're comfortable, because it's
just rare you see a guy of Russell Wilson's accomplishments
and stature play this long in the first preseason game.
And when we played Plex, everybody played the preseason. This
is a different error. Starters don't play the preseason much
(07:18):
anymore unless you have an old school coach like a
Sean payn to Belichick and Andy Reid type. These new
coaches man starters ain't playing at all. They don't even
play us, they don't even suit up. And so this
will all be on Russell Wilson because Sean Payton is
shown I can do it with any type of quarterback
(07:39):
it doesn't matter. And I believe again Russell Wilson playing
these preseason games is to get him feeling comfortable in
game speed under what Champayne wants to get accomplished.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But again, it wasn't a.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Bad game, but he's gonna have to be better because
you play the Chiefs, you gotta score points. You play
the Chargers, you gotta score points because we assume those
offenses are going to score points and you got to
be able to keep up with them. So I'm optimistic
that it would work because there's just no way Russell
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Wilson was as good as he was in Seattle, and
he was just that bad last year. You got to
give Pete Carroll a ton of credit. The way Russell
looked with Seattle, the way Gino looked last year, and
then the way Russell looked last year, I mean, you gotta.
(08:40):
I mean, the common denominator is Pete Curll wasn't with them,
and Pete Curle was with Gino. It's you have to
give him his credit that he knew his players deficiencies,
but he played to their strengths. He knew his weaknesses,
but he played to a stremps. And we didn't really
(09:03):
like people saying Russell Wilson was a surefire.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Hall of Famer. I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
That's the case now unless he can get back on
one bast season.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It wasn't one bad season.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
It was like whoa, because Russell Wilson is not just
going to play one bad season. If he can't turn
this around, it'd be multiple and then it would be
what everybody was saying, Oh man, the legion to boom
carried that what his teammates were saying, they gave him
(09:36):
too much credit. All we should have handed it to Marshaw,
went too soon. That's going to be the narrative.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And so if Russell Wilson does not turn it around
with Sean Payton, he might have cost himself a chance
at the Hall of Fame because of that.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, I think he still.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Has some more time, though I don't think that we
and just put him in a box and say was
he a Hall of Famer before he went to Denver?
That's the question that needs to be asked.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But you know how this thing works, I would say
he was.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
But when you fall off that fast, I mean, I
think Chad should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
But he ain't.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
He don't even make the finalists. Chad was one of
the top three receivers in the league for five or
six years.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Straight.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yeah, but look, hey, he can't even be a finalist
because when he went to New England, it was like, wait, wait, wait,
what is this?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Do you see the weight list that's in front of him?
Getting off, getting off topic, We way off to we ate.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
We've been taking tangents all day, so we gonna take
another one.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Bruh.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
You could see the weight list in front of him.
But all those guys that's in front of him, were
they a top three receiver at any point of their
career for five or six years straight? I say no, Reggie,
I say no, Reggie, Andre and t Hoe were they
top three receivers for six years?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
It doesn't it doesn't go that way.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I'm just saying that this is the Hall of Fame now,
Andre Johnson, he should be in the Hall of Fame, bro,
no question. Reggie Wayne has a great case to be
in the Hall of Fame. Reggie Wayne foteen hundred receptions,
fourteen thousand yards plex.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Reggie Wayne can play.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
But you got to understand when Reggie Wayne, I don't less.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I don't look at the numbers because his numbers is there.
You can't go off the numbers with Reggie Wayne. I
think he played sixteen years. You can't go off numbers
with Reggie Wayne because those are there. I go off
of and Reggie I think is going to get in
and he should be in. I will say, let me
say that. What about Tea Hope. That's another thing. And
I didn't notice until you know, you start doing a
(11:47):
lot of TV plex. Te Hope is part of an
offense that kind of changed the way the NFL started
playing offenses. Te Holt was a six time pro bowler.
They say he was alternate four those six or three
of oh six, some of that nature. So now the
kind of thing is like, WHOA, but you when you
played how many years?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You played twelve? Right plex?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah, when you played thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years, your numbers
are going to be Steve Smith, he played fifteen sixteen years.
When you play that long, you're gonna have the numbers
because they're not letting you play that long if you
not playing. So your Chad played eleven years and from
(12:29):
two thousand and two to two thousand and seven, he
was a top five receiver every single year that I
just named two thousand and two to two thousand and seven.
None of those guys that we just spoke of can
say that. None of them, Not one of them. Maybe
Andre Johnsondre Johnson, Yeah maybe dra yup, he'd only won.
(12:51):
Nobody else on that list was a top five receiver
in the league that period of time. So if you
were consistent, only that good, you gotta get in. That's
just my criteria. Now, my criteria obviously isn't the criteria
that they go by, but that's mine. And back to Russell,
(13:13):
he gonna have to show that he can play without
Pete Carroll as as head coach and running the ball
and defense. And he's gonna have to show that because
last year was so bad. And you can say it
was Nathaniel Hackett, but Aaron Rodgers plays great with Nathaniel Hackett.
Or is just Aaron Rodgers just heading shoulders better than
(13:34):
Russell Wilson. I mean, there's just so many ways you
can go about this, but I will say this, Sean Payton,
if you can't get it done with him, it's tough.
But yeah, hey, for y'all that are listening. We keep
going off on we making right turns and left turns.
But hey, if the topic takes us there, that's where
we go. But these Hall of Fame conversations, I enjoy
(13:57):
them because I feel God and obviously I'm biased to
guys that I played with, and I think everybody is.
I think Corey Dillon should be in. He won a
Super Bowl, was a monster. He just he hadn't been
given his just dude, Willie Anderson should be in. As
you see, I'm going with guys that I played with
the Bengals. Those three guys should be in. But Chad
(14:18):
to me is a no brainer. Two thousand and two
to two thousand and seven. Look up the stats, top
five receiver every single year those years. That's period that
I agree with you. All the fame is greatness for
a period of time. Five years. I think that's a
good period of time. That's just that's just me again.
(14:41):
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buying should be plex I don't know what's going on
with today's player. I hate to say that, like they
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just so different, but the coaching, I believe the seven
on seven everybody wants to win. These kids get pampered
along the way, and these kids in turn turn up
to they grow up to be grown men, and you
just used to having your butt kids, having all coaches
your entire life, kisha butt. And then you get a
(17:46):
hard nosed coach like Eric beIN and me, and they like, hey, hey, hey,
Coach Rivera, he kind of mean to us. I don't
like this. What's your take on? Just like, why would
Ron Rivera say that publicly? Is it to admonish his
players or is it to tell the enemy? You know,
pull back a little bit. Well, first of all, Ron
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Rivera hired him, so he knew what he was bringing
to the organization. And the offensive coordinator in Eric be
Enemy and you know there has been you know, discussions
of how Eric beni, Eric Bennemy coaches his players and
his offense. Obviously we heard some things come out with
(18:30):
Deshaun McCoy and you know how he talks to guys
and how he coaches and his approach. And I agree
with you one hundred When I came into the league,
my first head coach was Bill Kauer, and he was
as tough as a head coach on you from a
(18:53):
football standpoint, because he wanted to get nothing but the
best out of you for the team. And you understood
that the way he went about his job, because he
went about it in a manner that you knew from
a personal standpoint from every player that lined up on
(19:15):
that team in all three phases, offensive, defensive, a special teams,
that he was actually that teaching you the game of football,
and if it came off to you rather harsh.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Then you had to deal with it. And you loved
that in him because you knew, like there was no
drop off when the whistle blew and we were out
of practice. Man, he was the nicest man that you
had ever met in your life, but on the football
field as far as him coaching and wanted to get
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the best out of you for the team and you
personally to make the team better.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You understood that.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
And that is what has gone away from a younger
generation as players. You know, with everything that has happened,
we've been fighting for these guys to get paid. Now
they getting nil deals and that they're making substantial amounts
of money in college now before they even get to
the pros. So they are getting the ass kissed in
college and going to the pros, and I think it's
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gonna be sweet. So now you run into a coach
like Eric b Enemy and now he's you know, he's
a he's hard nosed and he's getting on you about
the job that you're supposed to be doing and perfecting
your craft. And now the coach is going to the headcase. Yo, man,
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Bene me?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, you know what, Eric Bennemy is proven as officer coordinator.
Look at what he has done in Kansas City. Everybody said,
oh this Patrick Mahomes and his aid to read, No,
this man was actually a play calling for this offense.
I mean, let's get this man the respect that he
deserves as an officer coordinator. But I think that he
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will offensively for Washington. They will turn it around and
he will continue to be him. Like he said he
I'm not going to change. I'm going to coach guys hard,
to let them realize and recognize who they are as players,
to make this officer team better. I'm not here to
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be nobody's friends. I'm here to do a job. And
the young guys have a problem with it. I love
it because when you go to practice every day as
a player and you know that the coach he doesn't
have an off switch when he's on a football field, coach,
you have to bring your best to practice every day
or otherwise you're going to be He's going to talk
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to you in front of the team and let everybody
know that you are not doing your job to the
fullest of your ability. And that is what these young
players have are missing these days in college going to
the professional level, because now it's just you know what
I mean. You come into the league, all right, you know,
I'm trying. I'm trying to get to the bag. I'm
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trying to play a few years whatever, whatever, And that
is what the new generation is.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
But for what Eric beni me.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Is doing as a as an offensive courtinator in Washington,
and the players have a problem with it. I love
it because he's pushing them and it makes them uncomfortable.
You have to be uncomfortable as a player if you
want to continue to get better.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
You know what I don't like plex is the fact
that they went to Ron Rivera, Like, really, bro, you
gonna go to Royn Rivera if you feel this way,
why can't you go to be any me yourself? Like,
be a man. We all men here. Yeah, he's the coach,
(22:47):
Be a man and go handle it yourself. Why do
you go to the head coach because he's coaching me
too hard. He's showing at me like we come from
an there when coaches all they did was yell at you.
So we were used to that, and I get today's
player they're not used to that, but we are all men.
(23:08):
You should not have to go to the head coach.
You should go straight to be enemy's office. And the
same thing that you said to coach Ron Rivera, you
should say to being to me, I don't respond well
to all the yelling or whatever it may be that
he's doing that.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
They don't like.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Take that up with the man that's doing it instead
of going to somebody else. That's the only thing that
bothers me. Today's player is different. You can't coach them
the same way we got coached. I get that they're
not used to that, but you do not. And you
should not go behind his back and tell the head coach.
(23:50):
But you should take that up with him. But I
don't know what Ron Rivera gets out of saying is publicly.
Is he trying to shame as players and say tough enough?
Because Ron Rivera comes from that era of he got
coached hard, I'm sure he coaches hard. Doesn't seem like
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he's much of a yeller, but I'm sure he got
it coming up.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Which that's what we got. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
With that being said, I don't think Ron Rivera would
have hired been the Eric beenemy if he didn't notice
about him. Look at the two different coaches of where
he was and where he's at now in Kansas City.
You didn't hear not one single player saying now that
Eric b Enemy was yelling or screaming or coaching them
(24:39):
too hard.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
In Kansas City. But but look at what they've accomplished.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Now, you go to Washington where the coaches, where the
coaches is in complete disarray of an organization and trying
to put a product on the football field that can
compete on Sundays. And now look at look at what
these players are saying. That is the first red flag
to me, that's what I don't like. Yeah, that's what
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I don't like is if you're part of that offensive
unit in Washington and the lack of success that you've
had as an offense, because the defense has been pretty
solid in Washington, the lack of success that you've had
as an offense, that you really have the nerve to
(25:27):
go complain to the head coach because you're being coached
too hard or he's yelling too much.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I don't even want those guys on my team because
you're showing me that you're not trying to push yourself
past a certain limit or you can't take it. So
I don't know who these players are. Are they your
main players on the team, you really rely on them.
It's really nothing you can do, but I'm with you.
(25:58):
They need that that offen, needs that tough love, that
kicking and you know what to get going. But to
complain about it, I'm like, wow, I wish I knew
who the players were. Ron Rivera does, and those players
better be really good because they won't be.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
In Washington long. They won't be.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Nobody will be in Washington long after this season.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Well, if they don't win, obviously, it's gonna be a
whole new regime.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And that's why you need to change the entire culture.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
And if it starts with coaching them hard, then it
starts with coaching them hard.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Deal.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
It's unfortunate that they put that. Eric ben Mey is
is in this situation that is in because I think
moving forward, Washington knows that they're are worst team in
the division and Kayla City will do well. They will
play well obviously because of you know, Patrick Mahomes as
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being the best player in football and Eric being to
me take it's a job where Damn Snyder's fired. Josh
Harris has gone on the record and say, oh, there
will be changes in Washington and they're not going to
win this year just because of the division that they're in.
They're not gonna make the playoffs. They're gonna be the
worst team in the division. And everybody's going to be
(27:17):
being saying the same thing. What did I tell you
about Eric b enemy Patrick Mahomes and to remade him.
And he's going to be put in a tough position
after this year if they don't win with Josh Harris
and a new ownership wanted to move on and fall
from Rob Rivera. What's that Once that happens, Eric Binny
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would be out of a job and it's just an
unfortunate situation for him moving forward. He knows it, and
I think everybody everybody knows it that Washington is not
a good football team.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
On himself and I know this point, at this point,
he hasn't been given an opportunity, so he has no
other choice.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Put the bet on himself. What'sh him the best?
Speaker 5 (28:02):
But y'all boys in Washington, yall, y'all gotta shape up
and we got to get the eye low with this
trend in.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
We got two preseason games going on right now to
tell you about. The Buffalo Bills. Fellas have a seven
to nothing lead over the Indianapolis Colts with six minutes
left to play and the first quarter. Colts rookie number
four overall draft pick Anthony Richardson got the start. He
completed his first two passes, his third pass intercepted by
Buffalo's Dan Jackson, who returned at twenty yards to the
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Colt thirteen yard line. The Bill scored two plays later
on an eight yard touchdown run by James Cook. Right now,
Richardson three out of five for eighteen yards. One other
note about this game. We're happy to say DeMar Hamlin
back on the field as we speak for the Buffalo Bills. Meanwhile,
at Soldier Field, Chicago, the Bears and Tennessee Titans tied
(28:55):
at seven with two seventeen left to play. In the
first quarter, Tennessee got on the board first on a
two yard touchdown run by quarterback Malik Willis. But then
the Bears came back on a sixty two yard touchdown
pass from Justin Field to Dj Moore. So Fields two
of two four seventy three yards, of course sixty two
(29:15):
coming on that touchdown. A couple of injuries to tell
you about. ESPN reporting today Cleveland Browns linebacker Jacob Phillips
suffered a torn pectoral muscle last night's preseason game against Washington. Yeah,
going to be out for this season. NFL Media reports
Green Bay Packers tight end and Corps special teamer Tyler
Davis tore his acl during last night's preseason game at Cincinnati.
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One major League baseball game going on right now. It's
game one of a doubleheader. The Atlanta Braves a one
nothing lead against the Mets at City Field. In the
bottom half of the first sitting, fellas back to you.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Man, Hey Planks, you say it on the show and
them Todam bomb Dj Moore that number one.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Ros, guys, guys, I got something else tell you just
happened seconds ago in Chicago. The Bears just struck again,
this time a fifty six yard touchdown pass from Fields
to Khalil Herbert's three touchdowns, telling hey.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Hey see when we say some things on the show, it's.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Gonna be when he he said some things on the
show and then bam right, do not be alarmed if
Justin Fields has one of these great seasons that we
didn't see coming. Something just telling me that this boy's
gonna take a leap man, and that's gonna be huge.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
And you know what's so crazy, man, that football is
such a team sport man because you give a quarterback some.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Weapons and then he really looked like he can quarterback.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Oh yeah, he don't have no weapons, just like, oh
hey what what? That's why football it's ultimate team sport man.
You need eleven guys all doing their job. But you
got some of those eleven that could really do their job.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Right you shine.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And I'm gonna tell you this, Corey Davis and AJ
Brown had Ryn Tannehill looking like he could play quarterback too,
And every since those guys parted in Nashville, he ain't
been looking the same.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So I understand it.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
And you know what it is too, one hundred percent
man receivers and they're getting their due now. When we
were playing it, it was a few. But if you
don't have no receivers, I don't care who the quarterback is.
You in trouble and hey, justin fields keep balling. DJ
Moore came to Chicago in that trade, and I guarantee
(31:46):
everybody in Chicago it's like they pounding eight chances.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Silently, like yes, yes, yes, and we.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Gotta go to this because I don't I don't know
if you heard of This is my first time hearing
about this plex. Recently, Kyle Shanahan said, had they made
the Super Bowl, they were gonna sign Philip Rivers to
beat a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Did you hear that? I heard that.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
We got the sound for Shanahan. Lit's hear from the
man himself.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
He was prepared to Yeah, no, and stuff we talked
about throughout the whole year. You know, we would have
had to see how that was for the Super Bowl,
but that was the plan most of the year.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Now, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
This is a crazy part about that because we know
Perty was hurt. Jimmy G has come out and said
I did not have surgery because I was playing in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
How would that have turned out? Is Jimmy G playing in.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
The Super Bowl or is Philip Rivers playing in the
Super Bowl. Man, these teams and organizations be making plans
behind the scenes. Dad, I wish, I really wish that
the four forty nine ers now would have made it
because I just wanted to see how that would have
panned out, How that would have played out, How would.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Full of Rivers have played?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Would the game have been different with Jimmy G had played,
Like there's just so many different variables. But what do
you think about Shanahan just coming out saying it, I.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Mean, moving forward?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I think they it's crazy that they had a plan
moving forward that to get to the Super Bowl, that
Philip Rivers would be the starting quarterback in this game. Like,
when did you start making this decision or playing putting
this play together? Because Brock perty didn't get hurt until
(33:42):
the NFC the Visual Game. So I'm just confused of
how that even came into the ram or their minds
of a decision making process. That if we get to
the Super Bowl, even though we have Brock parties playing
where he wasn't injured at the time because he said
(34:03):
they had came up with this plan for some time,
then you have Jimmy G on the roster, and he
didn't get Shurchy because he's gonna play in the super Bowl.
But on the back burner you got Philip Rivers, who
hasn't played in a year and a half because he
retired the year before. You got to think that the
season ended in January of what not this year, but
last year. The super Bowl is thirteen months later. What
(34:27):
would he have looked though, like not playing in a year?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
And he was.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Touching high school football at the time, but you had
a plan for Philip Rivers to come play quarterback. I
just don't understand how you come up with that. And
brock Perty was what seven and er at the time,
and he wasn't even injured, but you had Philip River,
Philip Rivers coming off the bench at home.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Hey, they must have sent Phillip that good old playbook.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You know, they sent them to playbook. You know, they
sent them to playbook and just kind of get a
little understanding of this terminology, and I man, it's really crazy.
Obviously we didn't get to see if Philip Rivers is
probably done unless something like this arises again. But I
(35:20):
would have loved to have seen him go straight from
the sidelines, coaching and straight on the field to playing
just and I mean Philip Rivers one of the best
quarterbacks of our generation and have a chance to win
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
And you know what, Antonio Chrumaldi brought this to my
attention the other day. It has been done before. And
what player has has done that that that the coach
picked up a player he came in for the Super
Bowl won the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Who was that?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I'm trying to think, I don't know, Eric Weddle, Eric Weddle,
see you know when you said that, I'm thinking offense,
I'm like, what offensive player?
Speaker 4 (36:04):
And it was very very recent to Eric Weddle. Yeah,
three years ago. He was at home living in California.
He had retired from Baltimore the year before, hadn't played
football the whole season, and he called him up for
the Super Bowl and Eric Wedder went out, went out
there and got him another ring. He got two championship
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rings with Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
And it always you're very raredy, see it happen on
the defensive side of the balls. Always a quarterback. But
Eric Weddle, and he played a big factor, and you
know from a coach and said, if you paid against Eric.
You know that he's he's going to be in halfway
decent shape because he was just one of those guys
(36:49):
that trained crazy in the offseason, and he's not going
to be a guy that's gonna get out of shape.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
And Seanvay picked up the phone and called him. He
played the Super Bowl to Ring That's yeah. I would
have loved to have seen it with Philip Rivers. It
didn't happen. Forty nine ers didn't make it, but man,
that would have been a great story. We gotta take
a break up on game Plexico Burris, I'm TJ.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Houschman Zada.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
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Speaker 2 (37:20):
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Speaker 2 (37:27):
Pro Right up. This was one of the.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Goos, good gun touchdown. Welcome to Chicago, DJ Moore.
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Speaker 2 (38:02):
I'm TJ.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Houschman's out alongside Plaux his birthday Burris.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Before we go?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Man, what is going on with this college football? And
no more Pac ten, Pac twelve Pac foe? So Stanford
and Cal tries to get into ACC. And I believe
it was Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, those
four ACC schools, Nah, we don't want you in it.
Those ports schools said, nah, callin Stanford, win, don't want
(38:32):
you win our conference. What do you make of all
this going on in college football?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You know what? Uh?
Speaker 4 (38:38):
When I heard it, the first thing that jumped out
to me was to travel. I think that was a
no go for the ACC because look at where teams
from Oregon and Stanford have to travel to Like every
other week, that east coast West coast trip is easily
going to be six or seven East West coast trips
(39:01):
for either the ACC team or Stanford in Oregon. So
I don't I didn't. I didn't understand that from a
you know, traveling standpoint. But I think that when UCLA
and USC left the PAC ten. I call it a
Pac ten because you know I'm I'm uh. We all
school with it, yeah, we old school with it. When
(39:22):
they left, it hurt the conference because those are the
two powerhouse teams that are associated.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Hey, Plex, you know what crazy pack you off real quick?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
After SC and U c l A left, ESPN offered
the PAC twin commissioner thirty million dollars per team per year.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
You know this dummy said no, continue He said no. Yeah,
sc and U c l A left and they.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Were still offered thirty million per tem per year. And
he said, no.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
How do these people get in the position they're in,
and they don't. They might have great sense in the world,
but they don't have common since. Man, listen, I'm an
East Coast guy. I'm from Virginia. But when USC and
UCLA played when I was growing up, I was watching
that football game. It was almost the Miami Florida state
(40:14):
rivalry that they had going on that I was even
cognitant of as a young kid growing up. So when
they left the conference, that hurt them. And you look
at Texas and Oklahoma they have left the Big twelve
to go to the SEC and now that has hurt
their conference because those are two of the powerhouse teams
(40:35):
that have left. So I don't know what's going to
happen from a conference standpoint with the Big twelve and
the Pac ten. I don't know what they're going to do.
But clearly the best conference in football is the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
I don't like what's going on incompetence at its finance
with the commissioners and the Pac ten Pac twelve. Figure
it out up on game Fox Sports Radio. We'll see
y'all next week. Ann with a sweet out
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