Week 10 of Red Zone Radio with Steve Hartman and Rich Ohrnberger!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:34):
forty nine Ers at the Jaguars, Browns at the Ravens.
Uh so interesting today our studio cast. First of all, Richie,
you're here, yes, which is great to see you. Iowa,
Sam has made a return. Loo and Sam, how are
you today?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
This is usually when I'd be winding down for night,
my day of sleep. Yes, but I I've adjusted and
I'm here and I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's good to see you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
He's got like the Lion king hair right now, getting
really he's really going bush.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's like young Simba.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
I work in a cave with by candle light, so
there's no need to train my facial hair or my
hair in general.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
So yes, well, Sam, it's great to have you out here.
At course, Bo and Monci already as well. Six games rich,
but on paper, at least, these are some really good matchups.
Remember last week we are sort of complaining about the matchups.
Turn out, we had two unbelievable finishes with that CJ.
Stroud comfort behind wind for the Texans and the Joshua

(01:38):
Dobbs miracle for the Minnesota Vikings. But we got these
six games going on right now. I want to start
with that Vikings game go against the Saints. Well, hang on,
hold on, we get to any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
While I was on the ride up from San Diego
to Los Angeles to the Fox Sports radio studio with
the whole family in the car, you know, we had bash,
we had high in the back seat, my beautiful wife
Annie flanking me in the patch of your seat. What
did I turn on but a really riveting Colts Patriots
game all the way from Germany.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay, I almost wanted to skip it, because I mean,
week after week after week, I mean last week, you
are actually making an argument that the Patriots still had
a path to get to the postseeds.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Right, and that ship has sailed. That is officially, I
mean there is no path. This is a two and
eight football team.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
That is, that is two games clear of every other
team in the AFC for the worst record in the AFC.
Look you work for the organization. The interceptions thrown at
the end of this game were unreal. Like I'm thinking,
it can't get worse than that Mac Jones interception, a little.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Floater over the middle in the red zone.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Until I saw the Bailey Zappi fake spike throw into
triple coverage and the look on Bill Belichick's set it
all well.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
In today's NFL, if you don't have an offense, you
can't win football games. And the problem with the Patriots
is the defense can't hold serve the way it used to,
and it's due to a couple of different things, complicating
issues with injuries this season, and obviously Chickens have come
home to roost in a big way in terms of
the amount of money that they spend on prior rosters.

(03:22):
Similar situation, but not exactly the same to what's happening
to the Rams this year. And you just think about it.
It's really bad offensively. It's okay defensively at times, but
when you can't muster more than ten points, when your
offense can't be trusted just to score more than ten points,

(03:44):
that's all she wrote. We have our first touchdown of
the day and it is a tipped pass and a
touchdown for the Baltimore Ravens. Hamilton tips the ball to
himself off of Deshaun Watson's pass. The first play from
scrimmage for the Cleveland Browns goes the opposite direction for
a pick six, and the Ravens extra point is good.

(04:06):
Seven to nothing lead in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's the beginning of what is going to be a
long day for the Browns.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I have a feeling.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I know the Browns is a city at five and three,
but I've said this yesterday, i said it last week.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I'm going to say it again.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
The best team right now in the National Football League
is the Baltimore Ravens. They had blowout wins against Seattle,
blowout win against Detroit. They are winning impressively. They got
a cooking right now. Lamar Jackson is back to an
MVP level. Defensively, they're always been outstanding. But in the moment,
Sorry Eagle fans, sorry Bo, the best team right now

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is the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean, they are a vicious defense and that's been
a trademark of John harbaugh teams for a long time.
They have established a run game that can hang just
about with anybody in this league. And now on top
of it, what Todd Munkin has done as a new
offensive coordinator in Baltimore is he's added some new wrinkles
to the passing game. I think Lamar Jackson has looked

(05:05):
better than he has in years and more comfortable in
the pocket throwing the football. And also that's a maturation process.
You can't give all the credit to Todd Mounkin. Lamar
Jackson is working on these things in the offseason. Clearly,
he's a hard working guy. We saw that at Lowellville.
We've seen it so far through his NFL career. He's
getting better and better. The problem I have crowning the

(05:27):
Baltimore Ravens anything in the regular season, or the Dolphins
for that matter. My problem with it is injuries that
quarterback have haunted these two franchises, especially late in the season.
So with Tua and with Lamar, do you really trust
that these two quarterbacks are going to say, perfectly healthy
through seventeen games. I really have hesitance to commit, you know,

(05:49):
and any sort of long term hope that that's going
to be the case.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I want to get to the Dabs situation in Minnesota
because people are reminded again that Joshua Dobbs is one
of those guys been floating around from team to team.
He's only twenty eight years of age. And when you say, well, okay,
he had a few moments. He beat the Cowboys earlier
this year with Arizona obviously an incredible performance last week,
having not taken a single snap of the first team

(06:16):
offense and leading that Vikings come from behind victory. But
every time people doubt whether a guy like Dops could
actually make it, I have.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
One name for you, Gino Smith, right right?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I mean Gino Smith floated for ten years in the
league and I didn't even know he was still in
the league when Seattle signed him handing the ball and
had the run to a Pro Bowl season a year ago,
and asked Seattle playing great again this year? The reason
I mentioned that is you got a quarterback Kirk Cousins
that just blew his achilles, which is always dicey. You

(06:47):
don't really know how he's going to come back. And
then there's a situation with this forty nine er team
right now, Brock Purdy. They come into this game with
Jacksonville on a three game losing streak, Jacksonville's on a
five game winning streak. Both teams were off last week
with the bye. By the way, the forty nine Ers
driving right down the field. But I mentioned this with
Kirk Cousins, and we speculated if it doesn't work with

(07:09):
Brock Purdy, could he be San Francisco bound with his
ties to Kyle Shannon hamback from their washing days. So
there's a lot of play and there's a pass in
the end zone and that is a touchdown forty nine
ers Ayuk right there.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
With the score. Yeah, Brandon Ayuk, And that's Perdy and
Ayuk getting back on the same page that they left
prior to the bye week really early season. I you
kind of disappeared on their way into the by And
I'm glad he's back because that was a great hookup
for Purty early in his career last year. And then
well he's still early in his career, but early this

(07:46):
season they had a lot of success, so they're getting
back to it. Wow, that's a dangerous throw. Brandon Ayuk
did a lot of the work there. So Brock Purdy
rolled out to his non throwing side, to his left side,
and it was up for grabs two Jacksonville defenders near.
He threw a back across the field to the middle
of the end zone. Au comes down with the past
extra point is good. San Francisco leads in Jacksonville seven

(08:09):
to nothing. And you mentioned josh Dobbs, Well, he's drove
the length of the field with this Vikings offense.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Now they have a fourth and four now at the
New Orleans twenty two yard line, so it looks like
they're gonna go for a field goal here.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, they'll settle for a field goal there. Jordan Addison,
since since being without their star receiver for weeks now,
has really stepped up and accepted the challenge and he
was a big reason why they got that win last
week and already had a huge play for Joshua Dobbs
in this game. They lead three to nothing against the

(08:43):
New Orleans Saints, who have a top five defense in
this National football.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, the Saints team, by the way, looking pretty good
at five and four. Both these scenes five and four
coming into this game. Meanwhile, with the Steelers are on
the board, Najee Harris just got into the end zone
on a four yard run. So the Steelers jump on
the Packers early seven nothing lead. We talk about the
Steelers week after week after week. There's nothing that says

(09:07):
that Kenny Pickett is special at quarterback.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yet they're sitting at five and three right now, trying
to jump on another team that they should be at
least at home. The Packers to get to six and three,
early seven nothing lead, and we keep talking about Mike
Tomlin and understanding how to win games.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
The Bengals just on the board.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
By the way, Irwin with the thirty two yard reception
from Burrow. I was listening to Brian Know this morning.
His play this morning was Irwin over thirty one and
a half yards receiving. He just got thirty two yards
on that play. He's over, so be no congrats man.
That was his prop play he thought with Erwin in

(09:50):
for Higgins today. Burrow likes him and just on one
play literally the over on it was thirty one and
a half receiving yards, thirty two yard touchdown seven nothing bit.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
So there you go, a good, good pull from Brian
Now on the prop bet. They're seven to nothing lead
ball in Cincinnati over the Texans, who, by the way,
have arguably the best quarterback going in the NFL. Right now,
do you know how many quarterbacks have had three hundred
twenty five plus yard games twice this season? How many? One? Wow?

(10:24):
And that's CJ. Stroud. Only one other quarterback has had
a three hundred and twenty five yard plus game so
far this year. He is establishing himself as the sole
reason the Texans really have a heartbeat this season, and
out of the AFC South. I mean, if I'm going
to pick a division winner just based off of momentum

(10:45):
and what I've seen so far this year, I would
take the Texans. At this point, at the midpoint of
the season, I would take the Texans.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, they're gonna have a hard time today against a
Bengal team that has a healthy Joe Burrow and they
are back in action. Opening drive for Burrow seven of
eight sixty yards and that touchdown pass no big deal.
And the Bengals where are my preseason pick to win
the Super Bowl. So they are beginning to look like
the team I thought they would be all along. All right,
we're just getting started. Wow, a lot of scoring early on.

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Speaker 1 (12:16):
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the Ravens have added to that pick six a touchdown
run of thirty nine yards by Keaton Mitchell. So just

(12:38):
like that, ten minutes to go in the first quarter
in the Ravens all over the Browns by a score
of fourteen and nothing. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.
Steve Harbin and Richard Ormberger with you. We are live
from the tyraq dot com studios. Deshaun Watson zero for
three with a pick six. That's a passer rating of
zero point zero to start this game. Browns with two

(12:59):
backup offense of tackles. I don't think you want to
be digging a fourteen hole, fourteen nothing hole to the
Ravens on the road. Not a good not a good
start for Cleveland in division rivalry.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Baltimore is just going nuts early in this NFL Slate here. So, yeah,
what you said about this, this Baltimore offense is absolutely true.
They are just dominating people right now. It's not It's
not even close. How the past couple of weeks have
gone for Baltimore, Lamar Jackson went healthy easily one of

(13:33):
the most devastating athletes and quarterbacks to deal with. And
I separate the two because even dual threat quarterbacks like
Deshaun Watson used to be, I don't really view him
quite the same way as I did when he played
for Houston. Like, like we know many players, Patrick Mahomes
can be lumped into that discussion, justin Herbert. He has athleticism,

(13:55):
even Daniel Jones to a certain extent before the injury,
you could consider him a dual threat guy because there's
athleticism there. But Lamar Jackson, it's like a human joystick.
You can't hit him. He just disappears on you. He's agile,
he's super fast. I mean, there are some people who
speculate he's arguably one of the fastest players in the league.

(14:17):
We never got an official forty time because he refused
to run one because he was worried that they'd make
him a wide receiver if he ran a forty so
Lamar and this Ravens offense, when he's healthy, they're pretty
close to unbeatable if you're trying to prepare it for
them on a short week or just a normal game week,
because how do you prepare for Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Nobody's like him, no, nobody, and when he's healthy, and
he's healthy right now, that's been the only question marks
durability over the last couple of years. But a healthy
Lamar Jackson is a nightmare for opposing defenses. The Packers
right now a third and seven at Pittsburgh's eight yard line.
Steel is leading this game by a score of seven
and nothing. The audition continues for Jordan Love. Packers are

(15:00):
three and five right now, one in three on the road.
He's four for five for fifty two yards so far
in this game, so he's looking decent.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
But at some point the.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Packers have to decide is their future Jordan Love or
should they go in an entirely different direction. Titans have
an early three to nothing lead on the Buccaneers. Buccaneers
still have to be reeling after the way they lost
that game to the Texans last week, and speaking of
the Texans opening drive produced nothing. CJ Strod one completion

(15:29):
for seven yards and that opening drive, Joe Burrow is
absolutely carving them up right now.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Touchdown Packers if that counts. That was a corner route
and yeah, Romeo Dubbs, the Packers' second year receiver, was
able to come up with a big catch in the
corner of the end zone against this Steelers defense. Nice
little route concept. He had separation on his defensive back
and the pass was on the money. Give Jordan Love
credit for that pass. Well, give him a lot of

(15:56):
credit for last week too against a Rams defense where
he had twenty for twenty six Day two, twenty eight
through the air, no mistakes, he threw it for a touchdown.
That's probably his best passer rating, let me look through it. Yeah,
second best passer rating of the year so far. And
he was sacked four times, so it wasn't perfect upfront
with the protection. Some of that obviously can be blamed

(16:18):
on the quarterback too, but Jordan Love is starting to
figure it out at this level in the second half
of this season.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
It looks like.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Bad start for the Jags, So Jags at home. This
was sort of one of those do you believe in
Jacksonville five game winning streak coming off of bye week
taking on a forty nine er team with three straight
losses coming off the bye week. This one has been
all forty nine ers that got the early touchdown on
the touchdown pass from brock Perty to Brandon Ayuk, and
now they are driving again. They are at the thirteen

(16:49):
yard line. Deebo Samuel is back for the forty nine ers,
so they're at full strength offensively. Total yards in this
game so far, San Francisco one hundred and six, Jacksonville
negative one.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, not going well offensively for the Jags. And this
is exactly what I'm sure Kyle Shanahan hoped for coming
off of the bye week, a refreshed rock party, maybe
got some of the cobwebs knocked off. He definitely had
some injuries that he was dealing with, namely the concussion
going into the bye week, and so he's looked sharper today,

(17:25):
and really the San Francisco defense has looked sharper today
as well. You have Chase Young with the bye week
to sort of get acclimated playing across from Nick Bosa,
a revamp group up front for the forty nine ers
on defense.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
All right, big play by Jacksonville. Though they are able
to sack rock Party and force a fourth down, so
we're gonna get a field goal attempt coming up with
the forty nine ers. Also, the Texans forcing a punt
for the Bengals after the Bengals scored on their opening drive,
so the Texans will get the ball back. Trailing the
Bengals by a score of seven to nothing. Vikings with

(18:01):
the only three to nothing lead against the Saints. Obviously,
the big story there is Joshua Dobbs and whether or
not he can lead this team to the postseason. It's
gonna be Dobbs play. I'm sure it was interesting for
him this week in practice working out with the first team.
Probably had to still introduce himself. Oh yeah, with several
of the players who he probably did not know their

(18:22):
names when he jumped into that huddle unexpectedly last week.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, well, he said that that's what this week is
for actually learning my teammates' names, because when he went
into the huddle, not only did the majority of the
starting offense not really know who he was, they hadn't
even heard him give a cadence yet, right, so they
had him practicing his cadence on the sideline with the
starting offense before taking the field after Jaron Hall went

(18:49):
down with the injury following the Kirk Cousins Achilles tear.
So and it really is insane.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I mean we were talking about this yesterday with Adam
Kaplan and Ephram the idea of never taking up with
the first string offense, Like you said, just the cadence, yeah,
I mean trying to be on the same pace throwing
passes the receivers you've never thrown the ball to in practice,
much less in a game situation.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, credit to Kevin O'Connell, well, Joshua Dobbs first and foremost,
I give all the credit to Joshua Dobbs. It takes
a special type of player, a special level of intelligence
and football intelligence to accomplish what he accomplished. I mean,
this is one of the smartest guys in the league,
because there's very few humans who could even compare to

(19:34):
the level of execution that he performed in that game.
But also to Kevin O'Connell, in part because he was
translating his offense into words that Joshua dobbed or excuse me,
that Josh Dobbs could understand before each play, you have
fifteen seconds basically after getting the play call out to

(19:54):
say to him, Okay, now on this one, you're gonna
be looking to the flat because you're gonna have the
running back free. If he's not, here's your second read
on this throw Ready break and you know the coms
go out in the headset and you let Jesus take
the wheel. It was an unbelievable collaboration between quarterback and
coach that got that w when he got into the game.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
We said on the air, look all right, let's you're
gonna have to make this simple.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You know, look for an open receiver.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
If you don't have one, run right, Yeah, I mean
that's what else can you do?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
And Kevin O'Connell said that in his postgame press conference.
He was saying, look, you know there were times where
I would get in his years and I would say, hey,
we're gonna be looking corner here and don't forget you've
got legs and you can use him on this one too.
He did very effectively.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
So right now, Minnesota with the early three to nothing
lead against the Saints, Titans and Buccaneers, so We've been
talking a lot about the Baker Mayfield comeback with the
Buccaneers still sitting at three and five. But Will Levis
is the other guy that everyone's talking about now, the
Titans quarterback, and he's off to a hot start in

(20:58):
this game six seven fifty eight yards. He has been
sacked a couple of times. But I reiterate what I
said about Will Levis even a couple of weeks ago.
I know he had the four touchdown game, but even
in their loss with Levis at the helm, the thing
that impresses me immediately about Will Levis yep, is that
he looks like a quarterback who belongs. Yeah, he just

(21:19):
has that presence. It doesn't seem too big for him.
He can make throws. I mean this guy, I mean
you talk about he's got a real arm. There are
very few quarterbacks in this league that can effectively make
any kind of throw, whether it needs some jews, throw
the deep ball, a little bit of a touch on
the shorter passes. Levis seems to have that kind of arsenal.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
No, he really does. I've been impressed with Will Levis
his level of composure taking over as the starting quarterback
and with that states. Because it happened in very quick succession.
He gets his first start, he gets his follow up back,
and gets announced the starter. It means that this team
around him believes in him. It's it's not just you know,

(22:03):
whatever media narrative that we want to direct or people
like us, whether it's writers or it's sports talk show
hosts out in Tennessee or nationally. No, like, this guy's
got real talent. And as a result of that, you're
seeing this team rally around him. And frankly, you know,
we knew this was coming. Tannehill's days were numbered in
Tennessee when they drafted you know, the liberty quarterback and

(22:28):
then they went to Will Levis in in back to
back years. They were looking to replace him. It was
just a matter of finding somebody talented enough to step
in there. Well, Levis got his opportunity really shined.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.
And she is sporting Charger gear today. So you and Chris,
did you have any wager on this game with his Lions,
Because he's at the.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Game, let's get making his SOFI.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Deputis take on the Chargers later on.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, no, I'm wearing a charge happened. I definitely didn't
pick them to win.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
You're not picking them, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
So they're not playing against the Bears or the Jets, right,
two of the worst offensive teams in the league.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
They're actually playing a real office.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
I'm still expecting them to charge, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (23:14):
Right, So, I know, I know they just won, but
it's like I'm still expecting them to charge.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
One game doesn't change what they've shown, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I asked Isaac Lohnkron, who does locally the pre imposed
Chargers talk, and I said, Ilo, when is the last
time the Chargers beat a quality team?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
He walked out with that. Okay, Okay, I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
And but today would be that kind of win today, Yeah,
because the Lions are definitely a quality team.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
I agree, And if I'm proven wrong, I'm not gonna
be upset.

Speaker 10 (23:48):
But I did take the Lions yesterday with Alex Curry,
we both took the Lions to be the Chargers. But
you yeah, anyway, I just I like to root for
teams that, you know, the charge, charge, the Clippers, Clipper, you.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Know, like those are my teams, guys.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I don't know what else to tell you you have
attached yourself to teams that they now have verbs based
on their their team names.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Just quicker reminder on your Clippers, what's their record so
far since the arrival of James Harden?

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Oh in like ten? All right, yeah, no it's not great.

Speaker 10 (24:20):
Well, yeah, because he is the system. That's why he
is the system of the downfall. Anyway, Okay, six games
currently going on in the NFL. I'm gonna start with
the Browns and the Ravens. Ravens are all over the Browns.
They started with an immediate pick six and they're up
fourteen zero. But rookie running back Keaton Mitchell, who went
undrafted in April, a thirty nine yard rushing touchdown. Ryan

(24:44):
and I ran Berschinger, who's getting all of our sounds
right now. We're talking about we picked him up in
separate fantasy leagues and we bump didn't play him, and
then he had thirty nine rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
So good for you.

Speaker 10 (24:54):
Running back Keaton Mitchell, rookie for the Ravens, and the
Browns did.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Just hit a field goal, So it's fourteen to three.

Speaker 10 (25:00):
The forty nine Ers are beating the Jaguars ten zero
three minutes to go in the first quarter, and that
one the Titans up on the Buccaneers by just a
field goal. They're about to end the first quarter. The
Packers and the Steelers are tied at seven apiece. First
it was Najie Harris rushing touchdown for the Steelers and
Jordan Love finds Romeo Dobbs to tie the game in
the end zone.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
Less than two minutes ago in the first.

Speaker 10 (25:20):
Quarter, Vikings up on the Saints by just a field goal.
As well, you guys were talking about Joshua Dobbs.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Did you guys see or hear that?

Speaker 10 (25:29):
He was on a podcast and he said that Jonathan
Gannon looked him in the eye and was like, you're
not going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
I'm not trading you.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (25:37):
And then was so like when I heard that, I
was even more impressed at what he did arriving in Minnesota,
you know, five days after being traded, not knowing anyone's name,
like you guys were talking about.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
But that is crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Well, it also was a couple of the fact that
Kyler Murray wasn't ready to come back, so they literally
had no quarterback last week and they scored zero points.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You know, we're really critical of rookie quarterbacks, rookie head coaches.
They have their moments too, where it's you're learning on
the Josh, sure, I'm sure Gannon that's the first time
he's gone through this experience. And sure, I'm pretty certain
somebody stepped in over the top of Gannon and said, hey, listen, buddy,
whatever you said to your quarterback, we're trading Josh.

Speaker 11 (26:17):
Tha.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
That's terrible. Oh, that's awful.

Speaker 10 (26:20):
The Saints did just tie the game with the field
goal against the Vikings.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
They're about to end the.

Speaker 10 (26:24):
First quarter, and the Bengals are beating the Texans. Speaking
of a rookie quarterback and a rookie head coach that
are doing pretty well in Houston, but Cincinnati up seven zero.
They're also about to end the first quarter. And in
college football, Jimbo Fisher was fired as Texas A and
m's head football coach.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Buyout too much money seventy million dollars Like, yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Think it's seventy or seventy six or.

Speaker 12 (26:47):
Something like that.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Seventy five million. I mean, way to go if you're
Jimbo Fisher. Josh McDaniels, Yes, no, man, oh man, that.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Means like, think about that. Somebody can't stand thank you
so much that they're willing to spend seventy million dollars.
It's for you never to spend. There's a huge win.
They're way one, like fifty one to ten over Mississippi State. Yeah,
and they're six and four. I know that they they're
going to be in a ball game. They didn't even
finish the season.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
And they're like, Okay, you just won fifty one to ten. Goodbye,
seventy five billion, here's the check.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Goodbye.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
I mean I would take that.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I'll take that.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Not bad, all right, Monzie, thanks so much. We'll check
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(27:43):
There's a review on the field right now in the
Bengals Texans game. They have a fourth and one at
they the Texans at the Bengals nine yard line. However,
a completed pass is being reviewed. I didn't think he
had control when he got both feed down. I think
this one's gonna come back.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, look like Tank Dell had. He was lifting off
with his inside foot before getting his second foot in
the ground. So I I mean, look, I don't was
the was the play on the field called the completed pass.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
It was called a completed pass to set up a
fourth and one.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
It not that ir you know whatever, It is irrefutable
evidence to the otherwise. Do you feel like that's irrefutable
that he doesn't have two feet down?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I think he had possession of the ball. I mean
he was, he's sort of one hand. If he watched
the replay once again, he goes up with two hands.
So then the ball, but the ball is sort of
fumbling around. He had to regrip the ball. There's no
way he had both feet down. He had to regrip
the ball. He sort of cupped it and then regripped it,
and the call stands. They're gonna say it's a reception.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's wow, That's what I'm saying. It's just it's so
difficult to tell, to tell me that there's enough evidence
to turn that over. I mean, this is why.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Here he sort of cup the ball. He didn't really
have the ball until right there. That's one foot, yeah,
but hang, it's not two feet.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Can we get back to the days, because I know
when you break it down frame by frame and we're
looking at whatever, a frame rate of one hundred and
twenty frames per second.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Right the way, just quickly, here a fourth and one
at the nine yard line. The Texans will go for
it here on fourth and one instead of going for
the field goal.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
And C. J. Stroud drops the ball and that is that. Yeah,
that looked like he was supposed to go out the
back door. And if they would have gotten that center
quarterback exchange going, it would have been a great play
for the Texans. But unfortunately, a fumbled snap ends the
first quarter with Cincinnati ball deep in their own territory,

(29:48):
leading by seven over the Texans at home.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Here's a problem, here's a problem for boot out to
that how often during the course of a game in
his career is Stroud taking the ball under center? It's rare, rare,
And was he pulled out too quickly and did not
abb his hands firmly on the ball, dropped the ball,
and so Cincinnati takes over.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, these are things skills that you know. It used
to be in the NFL everybody was under center for
fifty percent or more of the snaps during an NFL game.
But now many of these college quarterbacks, and I mean
many of them, never take an under center snap in
their college career, so unless they're taken a knee at
the end of a game. So when they come to

(30:27):
the NFL like they want to do the majority of
the snaps from the shotgun. I don't blame these offensive
coordinators because you're trying to teach a foundational skill set
that is has almost vanished in youth league football, high
school football, in the college game. So some of these
quarterbacks get to the NFL having never, not once taken

(30:51):
a snap under center. So yeah, a mistake there costly
in the scoring range for the Texans. Seven to nothing
lead for Cincinnati at home hosting Houston. Yeah, you know,
it's It's an interesting thing what happens at the midpoint
of the season, right because the Texans were exciting for
the first half. They're a five hundred football team. But

(31:11):
this is where the rubber meets the road and Joe
Burrow in the Cincinnati Bengals. There's a lot of faith
that they're going to get out of the basement of
their own division and rise and ascend in the AFC
because they've been there so many times. They have that
leadership and they have that they've learned how to win.
That franchise knows how to win. Do the Houston Texans
know how to win? Does Demko Ryans know as a

(31:34):
rookie head coach had to guide a franchise to have
success in the second half, we'll find out.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Well, you mentioned the Texans is a possible, you know,
run to the playoffs, and if you look at their
schedule after this road game against the Bengals, obviously an
underdog today, but then they have three straight home games
against the Cardinals, the Jaguars, and the Broncos. They hit
the road with the Jets and the Titans, home against
the Browns and the Titans, and then they fish at

(32:00):
the Colts. I mean, there's a lot of winnable games
that I just rattled off on their schedule. So yeah,
this is a real possibility for the Texans. But you
can't be making mistakes like that on the road against
a good team like.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
The bat If you have Keaton Mitchell. Okay, yeah, if
you have Keith Mitchell on your fantasy roster after he
had that breakout game two weeks ago, you're very happy
because so far in the first quarter he has one
carry for thirty nine yards in a touchdown, and he
has one reception he just got on a screen pass
to the far side of the field for thirty two yards.

(32:35):
He is absolutely dominant in this in this Ravens multiple
offense that they run.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
All right, I have an update on Deshaun Watson. Early
I told you it was zero for three with a
pick six. That's a passer rating of zero point zero.
Let me give you a Deshaun Watson update. He's one
for nine, one for nine, and his passer rating is
holding steady at zero point zero. You mentioned earlier, this

(33:03):
Deshaun Watson bear's zero resemblance to the Deshaun Watson we
saw in Houston.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
This will go down as the worst contract in NFL history.
There's a lot of people in New York talking about
the Daniel Jones contract. They're like, oh my gosh, how
are they paying this guy forty million dollars a year? Well, look,
I mean at a certain level if you're a top
twenty quarterback in this league and you're resigning a contract,
you're going to be paid in the realm of thirty

(33:32):
plus million dollars per year. That's just the going rate.
That's that's how expensive that that property is on that
block these days, if you want to compare it to
real estate. But Deshaun Watson signed a unique contract. He
has owed the full two hundred and thirty million dollars.
That is guaranteed money. Deshaun Watson just has to find
a way not to get fired with cause, I guess,

(33:56):
which is rare in the NFL. And he's going to
collect every single dollar of that contract, and much of
that money was given to him upon signing. So Deshaun Watson,
if he doesn't start producing, and I mean in a great,
big hurry for the Cleveland Browns, this is shaping up
to be the biggest anchor contract any organization has ever

(34:17):
signed with any quarterback. And go figure, it's the Cleveland Browns.
In some ways, it serves you right, you do a
deal with the devil, this is what happens.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
But in spite of that, they're five and three. Well,
it's very much in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's all thanks to Schwartz, their defensive coordinator, and that
defense has played sensational football, and frankly it's it's also
thanks to PJ. Walker and dtr who were the backup
quarterbacks who, in my opinion, have looked better than they're
two hundred and thirty million dollar man Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Meanwhile, the Ravens no incomplete on a third and five
at the Cleveland nineteen yard line, so leading fourteen to three,
the Ravens are going to settle for a field goal
attemp right now, all right, It's been a very very
exciting start to our day today, no doubt. Six games
around the NFL, another Patriots loss in the book.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
For all the latest, keep it here. This is Fox
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Speaker 8 (35:13):
A shotgun snaps, he catches at the thirty seven drops
back to the forty firestone, Oh pat at the fam
by Trenton Irwin.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Touchdown.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Wait Bengals as Burrow delivers a.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Perfect strike and Trenton Irwin takes it in for the
Bengals touchdown. That's seven hundred WLW Bengals Radio Network. But
the Texans have answered on a CJ Stroud touchdown pass
is first of the game. He's seven eleven eighty six

(35:47):
yards and a score that one to Tank Dell. That
is a game that we're keeping our eye on six
games right now. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio,
Steve Harbin and Rich Ornberger with you live from the
tai iraq dot com studio. So the Texans offense has
outgained the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
In this game.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
This game is in Cincinnati, one fifty eight to ninety three.
So once again, CJ. Stroud and I made this argument
yesterday with Adam Kaplan. I mean offensive Rookie of the Year. Okay,
that's a gimme. How about MVP. Yeah, name any player
in this league that is more valuable to their team

(36:27):
than CJ. Stroud.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Nobody. Look, I'll tell you right now there are very few,
and I'm talking about some of the best quarterbacks in
this league. Very few. Take Patrick Mahomes, take two a
tongue of Iloa. Take Jalen Hurtz, take Justin Herbert, take
Joe Burrow and put them with the Houston Texans what
they're working with over there, and tell me that the

(36:49):
results would be similar. I don't think very many of
those names I just mentioned can do what CJ. Stroud
has done this year. There is a certain level of
self confidence and belief that is otherworldly with CJ.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
Stroud.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
This guy is connected quickly with these receivers, with this team.
Demiko Riins he deserves Coach of the Year looks and CJ.
Stroud he deserves MVP looks. This team is unbelievably overperforming
their roster right now. It's because of CJ.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
Stroud.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Vikings have a ten to three lead over the Saints.
Joshua Dobbs. If you thought last week as a fluke,
think again. Eight of eleven eighty nine yards passer rating
of ninety six, and he's got the Vikings in the
lead ten to three in that game. Steelers have a
fourteen to seven lead over the Packers. Steelers just find
a way. Kenny Pickett is six of seven for a

(37:41):
whopping thirty six yards passing.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I mean, I mean, I've been three football team.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
There is nothing about Kenny Pickett that's impressive other than
the fact that he's winning more games than he's losing,
which is what this is all about.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Well, Kenny Pickett is doing one thing that I think
if you if you got a hold of Mike Tomlin
and you got him completely honest, Like I don't know,
Sodian Penthethal, I bet you, he tells you. Look, the
one thing that I like about him is overall he
doesn't make the mistake that kills us. Do we wish
that he was better?

Speaker 6 (38:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Do we wish that he didn't make any mistakes? Yeah,
because he's made some. But overall he's only thrown four
interceptions on the season.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Well, that's what his job is to do. Just don't
throw picks, don't throw picks, don't make mistakes. Let our
defense handle it. And if you're Mike Tomlin, you'll figure
it out.

Speaker 13 (38:34):
Now rest Now, he's only thrown six touchdowns on the season,
which which you know, I mean, Okay, that's gotta be
a little soul crushing if you're Matt Canada, who literally
throughout this season there have been chants from Heinz Field
fire Matt Canada just raining down on the field from
from the heavens.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
But at the same token, it's a winning football team.
Mike Tomlin has found a way to doctor this thing
into a somehow winning formula.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Playing Steeler footballs, they run the ball, they play defense.
Just don't screw it up if you're the quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So out of place these days, though, when you turn
it really does a football game, it just doesn't look
like it's of this generation.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well, it's probably not a secret for success in the postseason,
but it can get you through a lot of regular
season games and get you to the postseason.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
All right.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Right now, the Jacksonville Jaguars are looking for some answers.
Trevor Lawrence has been sacked as many times as he
has completions.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
In this game.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
He has three for six or twenty two yards against
his forty nine or defense. We got twelve and a
half minutes ago. In the half there, he's been sacked
three times. They have nine net yards passing. I really
want to believe in Jacksonville. I really want to believe
that Jacksonville is all that.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Well, tell me why you're rooting for him.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
And by the way, we just got a turnover, So
brock Purty, just let me watch a replay here. He
got hit as he threw the ball. Ooh, I didn't
see copilition out of play.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I believe hit. He got hit as he threw, so
that ball was a floating duck. I don't know, no,
that ended up falling in compete with an incomplete pass.
They just punted the football and they've downed it at
the Jacksonville one yard line. So after getting sacked all
those times, now Trevor Lawrence is going to be taking

(40:25):
snaps in his own end zone.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
All right, six games around the NFL. We got previews
of games coming up a little bit later on. In
other words, we have it all covered for you. This
is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

Speaker 12 (40:37):
A couple of receivers left two out to the ride,
including Nikhil Harry ty Chandler. He takes the direct snap
Princeville left.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Touch down.

Speaker 12 (40:50):
Ty Chandler his first National Football League touchdown has given
the Minnesota Vikings pay nine pre lead.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
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Radio Network. Make it ten to three Vikings and by
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rack dot com the way tire buying should be. So yeah,
Joshua Dobbs first half against the Saints today and we
still got five and a half minutes to go. In
the first half, He's twelve of fifteen for one hundred
and fifty eight yards. Oh ready, in this game, Derek
Carr is forty nine yards passing for the Saints. So
Dobbs one hundred and fifty eight yards, car forty nine

(41:45):
yards vikings, leading ten to three and about to make
it more.

Speaker 14 (41:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I don't really understand how the offense hasn't clicked at
all in New Orleans this entire season. I like Derek Carr.
I think Derek Carr is a pretty earn good quarterback
and has been for a long time in this league.
But this season he's looked mediocre. Oh yeah, I mean
he's looked very average. He may sneak into the top

(42:11):
twenty statistically in terms of being a quarterback operating in
this league this year, but I mean it's just barely,
if at all. I mean, he he has just not
looked in sync with these receivers, with this with this
offensive coordinator. They even helped him out this offseason. They
got a familiar face in John Gruden down there in
New Orleans to work with this offense, and it just

(42:34):
it hasn't geled yet. Their defense is the only reason
why the Saints have a pulse in the NFC South
Right now.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
All right, the Browns are trying to get going here
as they are trailing the Ravens by a score of
seventeen to three. Has been a rough start for Deshaun Watson,
just three of twelve passing. They have a third and
sixteen right now at the Baltimore nineteen yard line, So
we'll keep you up to date on that game and
see if the Browns can get back into it. You
gotta feel like the Browns defense is going to find

(43:00):
a way to try to stay in that game, but
it's not gonna matter. So here we go, third and
sixteen right now for the Browns. They in the red zone.
They tried a screen pass. It was snuffed close to
the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
But there's a flag down on the play, so we'll
see what happened in Djoku was the one who caught
a game maybe two yards and we have an off
side no illegal Let see you I llegal procedure against
the offense, so bad turns to worse for the Browns.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, so they're facing a four down situation right now
for sure.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
All Right, So Bengals right now in the Texans.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
This is a game that look early like the Bengals
were going to be in complete control of this game.
They went right down the field on their opening drive,
got a touchdown. But the Texans have been able to
get their offense going. They've actually outgained the Bengals in
this game, in fact passing yards so far.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
CJ.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Strout as one hundred and thirty nine yards passing and
Joe Burrow has just seventy nine. Almost all of that
was on their opening drive. So the Texans aren't just
about CJ. Strout now. They actually have some defense and components.
Will Anderson obviously added to that defense.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
They were taking two and three overall right in this
year's draft, and.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
They took Stroud, They took Will Anderson out of Alabama
and Demiico Ryans. Everyone kept saying, this is a guy
that has what it takes to be a quality head coach.
We were just questioning, why would you take the Texans job.
I mean if you're if you're high in the list
of a lot of different teams, why would you take
a job that had what three consecutive coaches won and

(44:38):
done well.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I think it was the commitment that Texans made to him,
signing a longer term contract with the Texans, very similar
to Dan Campbell in Detroit. You can make the same argument, Yeah,
we get it. Dan Campbell wasn't considered one of the
prized picks in terms of a head coach in this league,
and frankly, Demico Ryans, I don't think was, you know,
extraordinarily high on a lot of people's list either, but

(45:03):
you know, in that second tier of coaching hires, he
was definitely a part of it. Well, Dan Campbell is
completely gentrified and turned around this Detroit Lions offense and defense,
and the same thing looks like, in fact, maybe on
a faster track happening in Houston right now.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
All right, the Browns got the field goals, they still
trailed the Ravens seventeen to six, seven and a half
minutes to go in the first half in that game. Meanwhile,
the Jaguars trailing the forty nine ers ten nothing, really
had not gotten much going offensively in this game. They
have a third and four now at the San Francisco
nineteen yard line. So you had Jacksonville on a five

(45:44):
game winning streak, you had the forty nine Ers on
a three game losing streak. The game in Jacksonville and
the forty nine Ers are three point favorites. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And I said, you know again, Vegas knows what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
We know that time and time again.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
But now all of a sudden, Jacksonville's defense has settled
down a little bit. They got to get some points
on the board right now. Trevor Lawrence is nine to
twelve for ninety three. Got a card touchdown in this
Green Bay Packers game. Nice pass, Jayden Reed.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Jordan Love threads the needle there deep down the left
sideline connect. So we have a seventeen to thirteen ballgame
in Pittsburgh right now waiting for the ensuing extra point.
And also we're waiting to see what's gonna happen with
this Jordan Addison pass. It was a second and thirteen
down near the goal line. Addison was able to catch it.

(46:35):
The debate is where exactly he was when he caught it,
If it is a catch and if so, where they're
going to spot this football right now? In that game
Minnesota leading ten to three at home hosting the Saints.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
By the way, anybody predicting an offensive shootout between the
Steelers and the Packers today, No, no, no, I mean
that is the highest scoring game going on right now.
After the Packers score.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
And you know, for everything we said about Kenny Pickett,
I mean right now, seven of eight forty eight yards,
I mean, he hasn't thrown a touchdown. He hasn't thrown
a pick either.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
What he got?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
What do you got?

Speaker 6 (47:13):
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Our first missed extra point of the day blocked, So
the Packers get the score, but they don't get the
extra point. So Pittsburgh retains a seventeen to thirteen lead.
But we have our first miss extra point of the day.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yes, there it is. Okay, So Pittsburgh, in a very
Steelers esque way, takes a four point lead over Green
Bay with the blocked extra point. So, yeah, seventeen thirteen
ball game there all right.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Jaguars get a field goal, so they're on the board
trailing the forty nine Ers ten to three right now,
four to twenty to go in the first half, of
this game.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
I just I wanted to quick detour.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Right now because by the way we're gonna get Tom
Rinaldi's gonna give us a preview of the Giants Cowboys
game coming up a little bit later on fact coming
up in our next segment. But I want to get
back to the number one overall pick in this draft.

Speaker 13 (48:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Sure, and Caleb Williams has now lost four of his
last five games.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
That's right now.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
You could say, well, their defense is atrocious, and it is.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
How about this.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Oregon's first two pass completions yesterday were for two touchdowns
on one hundred and sixty one yards eighty four yard
touchdown seventy seven yard touchdown bow knicks rolling it up.
Have you seen anything though, in Caleb Williams over the
last month in his game that could cast any doubt
about his status of being not just the number one

(48:37):
overall pick in the draft, but literally a generational talent
about to enter the league.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Well, look, he had a rough one this pass game
against an Oregon's duck. Oregon Ducks defense that plays defense. Yeah,
you look around the Pac twelve and there's not a
lot of great defense being played. However, he has performed
well against better defense against Notre against againstxcuse me against Utah.

(49:04):
He had a good game in terms of accuracy, but
he didn't score a single touchdown. He didn't throw a
pick either. Against Notre Dame, which is pretty good defense.
You know, Foreman's got that that group rolling on that
side of the ball held them to twenty points. He
threw three picks in that game, and against a better
Ducks defense. Then a lot of people actually advertised because
like you said, that offense is so prolific up there

(49:25):
in Oregon. He only threw a touchdown and he only
completed fifty his.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
PA I got news for his last game of the
regular season is next week against UCLA, which has no offense,
but UCLA definitely has one of the better defenses in
the country. I just wonder, I mean, is you know
we were just you know, it's faea complete the Caleb
Williams not just the number one overall pick, but you know,
if if the team holding that pick wants to tradeed

(49:53):
minimum three first round picks and everything else, Yeah, is
Caleb Williams stock still at that level?

Speaker 6 (49:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Well, here's what you're forgetting is we have a full
offseason of hype that we are going to undergo. So
a lot can change in a very short amount of time.
But one thing that's pretty consistent with quarterbacks is their
stock doesn't fall during the offseason leading up to the draft.
He usually gains momentum. So unless another quarterback like becomes

(50:21):
the clear cut, overall best option on the board, I
think it's still Caleb Williams, and I think actually it's
going to age more gracefully when you take a look
at his entire breadth of work at the college football level.
He has a very poor offensive line, The USC offense
has struggled with certain injuries at times, and so I

(50:42):
think there's some excuses that valuators will make. And Lincoln Riley,
I mean, to his credit, you know, he's he's helped
produce some stars at the next level. And we're not
just talking at the quarterback. We're talking about the skill
position player or skill positions.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Also, all right, we got a game coming up later
that is predicted to be ugly. Cowboys seventeen and a
half point favorites at home against the Giants. Taught me
Devido to me DeVito who still lives with his parents,
by the way, and he loves it. I love that
going against Dak Prescott, who I guess does not live.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
With his parents. By the way, Josh Jobbs just ran
it in for a Vikings touchdown. Look at Dobbs sixteen
to three lead Minnesota Vikings over a top five defense.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Kirk Cousins, his days is the Vikings quarterback are over?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Over? It is now Joshua Dobbs team. All right.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Well, on the other side, we'll do a little preview
and talk about this Giants team because they could be
the one city with the number one overall pick. They
paid Daniel Jones a lot of money the season ended.
ACL would they take Caleb Williams. We'll get the thoughts
of Tom Ornaldy. He'll be on the sidelines. This is
Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

Speaker 12 (51:56):
Dops out of the shot done on third down, Cam
Jordan got around the right tackle.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Dobbs looks, she's nothing now he runs out.

Speaker 7 (52:03):
To the left.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
He points to somebody, turns No.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Five to the incredible Josh Dobbs.

Speaker 12 (52:13):
With a rushing touchdown has run Minnesota to a sixteen
three lead.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
That's k Fan one hundred point three FM Vikings Radio Network.
How about MVP Joshua Dobbs seventeen to three over the
Saints inside ten minutes ago in the first half in
that game. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We're
live from the ti iraq dot com studios. Steve Hartman

(52:42):
and Rich Ormberger with you. All right, let's get ready
for a little preview of the upcoming game between the
Giants and the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (52:54):
It's time for the NFL Fox Focus.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Join is right now.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Ye know, he is as good as it gets when
it comes to man in the sidelines and talking about
what's happening around the National Football League. Our dear friend
Tom Arnaldi joins us once again here on Fox Sports
Red Zone Radio. Tom, I'm not going to pretend to
try to make a game out of a game that
will not be a game today, you know, and try
to say, oh gee, how the Giant's gonna make a

(53:20):
game of this?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Wait, this man, this man has to go out there
on the football field, on the gridiron and bring entertainment
to the mask.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Well, and if anybody can do it, it's Tom arnaldy.
But Tom, I want to go next step with the
Giants right now. I mean, it has been a catastrophe
of a season after signing Daniel Jones to that huge contract,
he had played sub far par football. He gets hurt,
he comes back season ending injury. Giants have a real
shot right now to have that number one overall pick

(53:49):
from once you gather right now, how committed are they
to Daniel Jones? And if there was an opportunity for
them to go after oh, I don't know a Caleb
Williams in the upcoming NFL draft, would they consider making
a change at quarterback?

Speaker 11 (54:06):
Well, all that quarterback discussion, guys, and you did not
say the name Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Wears and everything else.

Speaker 11 (54:15):
Yeah, I just I'm forgive you the disclaimer. I have
to get with him. If he walks out, guys, I'm
just gonna jump, no disrespect, and then I'll circle back
with you. Listen, Brian Tables started the call with us
this week. I thought in a great way. He just said, guys,
this is let's not turn this call into a funeral.
We're not going to do that. We're not going to
do that in the facility. I don't do it in

(54:36):
the facility. I've been on other teams where.

Speaker 7 (54:38):
Things go wrong.

Speaker 11 (54:40):
How about this line, and you're in the cafeteria and
the people serving the food won't make eye contact with you.
We are not going to go through the rest of
the season that way. We are disappointed, of course, but
we're not discouraged. We're going to do everything we can.
They're very much living in the present. I understand the
concern about Daniel Jones, a very popular teammate. Guys in

(55:02):
the building, so there's the emotional hurt there as well
as the fact that the performances weren't happening the way
everybody wanted them to. But right now there's just a
determination to try to see what they have with the
veto listen. I can't tell you. It's a week to
week league. We don't know what will happen. It's the

(55:23):
point spread says what Vegas thinks will happen. But it's
a great opportunity for Jersey guys. How much we know.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Oh, you're not kidding. And this Timmy DeVito story, Okay,
so I gotta ask you, all right, So Dallas with
Dan I should say New York with Daniel Jones. When
Dallas played against the Giants week one, they absolutely dominated
the Giants. I mean it was seven sacks for the
Cowboys defense. It was three turnovers for the Giants offense.

(55:52):
I think I think it was only one hundred and
seventy yards of total offense that day for the New
York team. And how does Tommy DeVito fail better, especially
without Darren Waller this week?

Speaker 11 (56:04):
Yeah, I listen, it's a genuine question. But this is
one thing that we heard throughout the entire week through
the building that he's not going to play scared. They're
not going to coach scare. Now, that's easy to say,
right everybody has a plan until he gets it in
the mouth. But at the same time, I would not
expect any quick pull for Tommy DeVito if it's twenty

(56:24):
one to nothing at the end of the first quarter. Guys,
I don't think you're going to see Matt Barkley. Why
would you necessarily unless Tommy DeVito's in harm's way. I
think the Giants need to see what they have for
the next few weeks. Tyrod Taylor came out this week
and said he does not believe his reve injury to
be season ending. He does believe he will return. He
made the trip. He's been supporting Devido as Jones has.

(56:46):
But you're going to see Tommy DeVito sink or swim
here against a team that doesn't lose at home with
an elite defense, and if they fall behind, which is
likely to happen, that's going to be a big challenge
for the Giants offensively, on top of what's already been
a difficult season.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
All Right, we have wasted enough time on Tommy Devino.
I'm sorry, you guys are out of your mind with
this Tommy DeVito. Let's talk about the Cowboys for a second, Luga.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
There's no future of Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
I mean, he barely passed the test in college at
Syracuse and Illinois, hie. So let's talk about the Cowboys,
because tom year after year after year after year after year,
we always seem to bring the Cowboys in the conversation
as a contender, and every time they seem to have
one of those you know, big time games that wow,

(57:40):
they really look good, then they all of a sudden
take that step back. They were competitive against the Eagles
on the road, they end up losing that game. Give
us an argument on why we should bide into the
fact that the Cowboys are a contender, not a favor,
but a contender to make a deep run in the
postseason this year.

Speaker 11 (58:02):
I think that's a very legitimate question, and they would
tell you that themselves. They would tell you that they
need to prove it. They know that. But I will
tell you this, the spirit in the building this week, guys,
on our calls fuckings coaches and players is very high.
I think they came out of that game believing did
they win?

Speaker 9 (58:20):
No.

Speaker 11 (58:20):
We know there's no moral victories, but they also know
that for a couple of plays which really were inches
wide literally by measure, they could have won that game.
And they know they went toe to toe with the
best team in the league on the road in a
hostile environment, and guys, here's the news. Go look at
the numbers. Dak Prescott plays so well against the Eagles,

(58:45):
and they believe they're going to see the Eagles in
the postseason later and that could share what they need
to win one of those games. They tell you that themselves.
Did they win last week? No, but they came away
from there with a lot of spirit and belief even
though they didn't come away with the victory.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
How much faith do you have at this point, the
halfway point of the NFL season that Mike McCarthy if
Dallas doesn't I don't know, have a deep playoff run
whatever that means a win, two wins in the postseason,
that Mike McCarthy is going to last as the Dallas
Cowboys head coach because his name has been rumored to

(59:22):
be on the hot seat. Now multiple years into this
contract with the Cowboys, are are you convinced that he
is going to be a long term figurehead at the
front of this franchise.

Speaker 11 (59:37):
It's the Cowboys, guys. They have to see how they
do in the postseason without questions. Now you want to
take a look to the numbers, the bold moves and listen.
It was bold to let Kellen Moore go considering how
incredibly productive they were offensively. But now in the last
few weeks, look at what's happened since San Francisco the Cowboys.

(59:59):
They have really turned it on offensively, Dak Prescott playing
it at an elite level, Ceedee Lamb entering his name
in the conversation, the best receiver in the league. They
look potent, but nothing will matter if they don't advance
and make a meaningful, considerable run in the postseason. And
everyone in that building, including Mike McCarthy, knows it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
All right, so he I get a sense from Tom
Rinaldi's predicting that Tommy DeVito will be the talk of
the NFL after leading the Giants to an unbelievable upset
on the run against the Cowboys.

Speaker 11 (01:00:33):
Listen to the out of context comic Chary. Oh yeah,
listen and speak of the man. He's coming, guys, I
got a hop.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Okay, all right, Jo, We always appreciate it. Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
The great Tom Ronaldi Johnny is right there. He's manning
the sidelines for this battle between the Giants, uh and
the Cowboys. I had to remind myself about Tommy DeVito
and his college experience. He was at Syracuse, he had
one decent year and then he lost his starting job.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
He ends up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Going a bonus year at Illinois, where he played passable football.
But to predict that, Hey, let's see what we have
you know for Brian Dable, Wow, I mean, everything looks
so good a year ago, lived up to the hype,
exceeded expectations, got into the postseason, got a postseason win,
remember against that Vikings team on the road, and they

(01:01:22):
signed Daniel Jones to this contract, and you feel like,
all right, the Giants are in good hands for Brian
Dabele to sit there and address the media saying, hey,
we're not gonna go there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
We'll go there if we decide to go there. That's
not up to you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
We're not gonna sit here and try to make the
play that Tommy DeVito is gonna hold this team together
in the absence of Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Look, I mean, i'm if I'm Mike McCarthy. All you
have to do the Cowboys facing the Giants to turn
on the film and say, this is what we did
to them the last time. We should expect nothing less
of ourselves this time now. Can Tommy DeVito go out
there and have give the Dallas Cowboys a different look

(01:02:05):
and maybe have a different game plan, a simplified game
plan that helps him have success early in this game. Yeah? Sure,
but we know this league. It's very difficult to play
at this level. It's really really hard to be good
at this level. It's even even more difficult to do
that on such short notice. The fact that their season's

(01:02:28):
hopes come down to Tommy DeVito is not a good
thing for the New York Football Giants. Let's put it
that way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
In playing English all right, I'm gonna answer the question
I asked of Tom Ornaldy. If the Giants sit there
with a top pick in the draft, would they go quarterback?
My answer is yes, yes, they would take Kleb Williams.
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right now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
So, manci are you blown away that a quarterback starting
this week in the NFL still lives at home with
his parents?

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
I mean, no, how old is he? Like twenty three?

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yeah, he's young.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
He's young.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
He's in his early.

Speaker 10 (01:03:24):
And it's just more normal and like he's a rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
He's twenty five years old.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
He's the exact same age as my younger son who's
living at home.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
This again, well hang on, hang on, and then wait,
how old is your oldest son? Twenty seven? It's moving home.
He's moving back home. Yeah, look at this is look,
this is your son still living at home. And I'll
tell you what they're bumps. Yeah, I'm tired of it.
And I had a conversation as we were driving up here.
I'm like, you guys need to start looking for job.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
Yeah, to get an apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
How old are they now? Eight and five? Yeah, I'm
tired of their freeloaders. Yeah, and I'm yeah, so the
struggles real, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
I feel like it's super normal. Like if my if
my brothers.

Speaker 10 (01:04:03):
Who were both married, were like or if I told
my parents any of us we're going to move back
on my PRIs and be like, okay, come on over,
like it's cool.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Like, no, I don't think it's a big deal at all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
And also I think it's I think it's Frankly, I
think it's really cool because the one thing, the one
thing that helped you is keeps it keeps the concentration
on the main thing, which is good point, which is
he doesn't have to worry about anything other than learning
his playbook. And like, I don't know, maybe have the

(01:04:33):
guy stop hiding his stuff because he's a rookie. Yeah,
like you know you guys, guys, Yeah, what do you got?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
So when I turned twenty, Yeah, my dad made it
clear I was out of the house.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I was going to say, no, no, no, no, But how
about this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
So when I got my divorce and I was in
limbo with my career, I had an apartment that I
had the lease up, and I called my parents and
I said, guess who's moving home?

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
Mom?

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Dad age fifty five at the time.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I And I'm very because my mom passed away a
year later, my dad a few years after that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
So retrospect, I'm really happy I shared this time on
my parents.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, but for four months I lived under their roof
in my old room.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
No, less, that's even better.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Of course it did look like my old room. They
had changed the room, but physically the same room. So yeah, No,
it's always a good time to hang out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
That's it's not forever. It's temporary.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Parenting is forever.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
Parenting is forever. But I'm saying, like living with your parents,
it's very just temper.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I'm pretty such my mom loved doing my lunch. I bet, yes,
I don't have a lot of you really.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Love that, Yes, something that might not be temporary.

Speaker 10 (01:05:46):
Joshua Dobbs being the Vikings quarterback, he looks good is him?
As the kids say? He just threw a touchdown to TJ.
Hawkinson and he has a rushing touchdown, so he has
two hundred and twenty yards in the air. I mean,
what can't he do? And he's been there a minute.
Bikings up on the Saints twenty four to three at halftime.
Most of these games are at halftime, if not starting

(01:06:08):
the third quarter. The Texans took the lead against the
Bengals with the field goal ten to seven.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
Is the score. CJ.

Speaker 10 (01:06:14):
Stroud doing what he can thirteen of twenty one, one
hundred and ninety eight yards and a touchdown. Joe Burrow
fourteen of eighteen, ninety four yards and that touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Plenty of game to go.

Speaker 10 (01:06:24):
The Steelers have a slight lead over the Packers seventeen thirteen,
also at halftime. The Buccaneers and the Titans just got
going in the third quarter. A low scoring game, but
Tampa Bay up seven to three. Baker Mayfield has thrown
for one hundred and thirty seven yards, one touchdown, one interception.
Will Levis nine of thirteen just for eighty two yards,
but no interception. So there's that forty nine Ers beating

(01:06:44):
the Jaguars thirteen to three at halftime and the Ravens
all over the Browns.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Still, the Browns had a chance to score.

Speaker 10 (01:06:51):
But Deshaun Watson could not in the red zone, and
the Ravens are up seventeen to nine. They're about to
head in to halftime. Now, in college football, we chatted
about this already, Jimbo Fisher being fired as Texas A
and M's head coach. He is going to get nineteen
point two million within the next sixty days. Then he

(01:07:12):
will get seven point two million annually through twenty thirty one.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
Okay, that's nice, guys, Okay that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
It reminds me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
It reminds me when when Charlie White got fired as
the head coach in Notre Dame. He had all this
deferred salary and the check would arrive right before Christmas
and he and his wife would have a toast. I
mean about they would literally the check would come for
millions of dollars and they would little champagne toast uder Dames.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
I would do that too.

Speaker 10 (01:07:45):
Now, Penn State did fire their offensive coordinator, Mike your sitch.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
What happened there? Well, I mean, did you watch the
Michigan game.

Speaker 6 (01:07:52):
Yeah, I think we all know what happened.

Speaker 10 (01:07:54):
Yes, so I am not as good as Jimbo Fisher's situation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
No, No, I'm guessing his exit clause wasn't nearly nearly
like Jimbo's. Yeah, I mean, the only thing I'll say
is a nitny lion. I can't tell you how many
text messages and phone calls I fielded after that game
from teammates of mine during my time at Penn State.
And also people are like, hey.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
You good, you all right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
You want to you need anybody to talk to after
that one? That was a rough watch this Saturday.

Speaker 6 (01:08:25):
Yeah, Michigan dominated.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
All right, Well, Monzie, thank you. We'll check in with
you once again a little bit later on. By the way,
I just saw the latest a peepole come out in
college football. Obviously, no change at the top. Georgia is
still number one. I again, I'm I'm trying to figure
this out on why Ohio State was number one in
the playoff rankings. It was based on a win against

(01:08:48):
Notre Dame, a team that's lost three games.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Georgia just blew out Old Miss.

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
I mean, blew the doors off of Ole Miss.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
And they're on a twenty six twenty seven game winning stream.
George is the number one team of the CUTCHA. I'm
done until somebody knocks them off. They got to be
number one. And what was the more impressive victory the
Michigan winning on the road against Penn State. I mean,
Ohio State rolls it up at home against Michigan State.
But I'm gonna be anxious to see how those playoff

(01:09:18):
holes because that thing is so tainted anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
The only thing I'll say, the only thing I'll say
is Penn State's record against Ohio State and Michigan should
be the only thing that gives anybody pause when they
get together and they come up with the CFP rankings,
because the reality is James Franklin has not performed well
against those two programs since he's taken over as a
head coach. I think I think the numbers at four

(01:09:42):
and seventeen as a head coach against Ohio State and
Michigan four and seventeen, it's something like that. It's absolutely absurd.
For whatever reason, he can beat every other team in
the Big Ten handily. His record outside of Michigan Ohio
State is phenomenal, but it's just absurd how he can't
get over that hump and against top ten teams, the

(01:10:06):
record is extremely poor. So for whatever reason, the Penn
State Nittony isonds. Every time they get close to the
sun on those wings of wax that Icarus put together,
they just falter. Well you brought in the acres.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
By the way, who do you think should be ranked higher,
Florida State or Washington?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Oh, probably Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
And yet Florida State is ranked ahead of them. Well,
Florida State is undefeated, so is Washington. Yeah, they're both ten.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
And oh oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Yeah, and Washington has that right against Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Resume wise, I think Washington's resume is more impressive, so
I would put them ahead because Florida State can't help it.
I think they are an excellent football team. Their schedule
has really held them back. I mean Miami maybe that's
their biggest win of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
That's not bigger than a winover Oregon. By the way,
next week, Washington on the road against Oregon State.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah, now that's not going to be Convallas.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
And they've been a little bit shaky. But Washington still
undefeated by the way their first ten.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
And defensively tough guys. Oh very I broadcasted a game
from Corvallas earlier this season. Dju, he's got that offense
going a little bit. They have some shifting oui angla
ouie ungle la lay. Yeah, and uh yeah, I'll tell
you what that's. That's a well coached, really difficult team
to prepare for. So that's a that's a big test

(01:11:27):
on the road for Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
All Right, So halftimes around the National Football League. One
game not quite at the half right now, the Ravens
and the Browns, And as dominant as the Ravens were
early in this game, we predicted this Browns defense would
tighten up. It has and they're keeping the Browns in
this game. So they have eighteen seconds to go in

(01:11:49):
the half. They're at the Baltimore forty two yard line.
They have a third and ten here. It's been a
rough half for Deshaun Watson. But if you make a
quick play here, at the very least, you might be
able to get a field goal. So he is scrambling
and he's running for his life, throws it away and
that is not going to be field goal positions. So
they're gonna probably have to go for it here. But

(01:12:11):
you know, again, it's still a one score game. Yeah,
and that Browns defense is for real, Yeah, only reason
that this Browns team is city at five and three,
it certainly has nothing to do with their quarterback play.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Well, I mean the right now, the Ravens, for all
the points today scored, are oh for four on third down.
So the Browns has stepped up in a major way
on those critical downs. But then you look at the
other side and you say, well, what's worked for the
Browns offensively really outside of the run game? Nothing. I mean,
Deshaun Watson has really struggled in this game. He just

(01:12:47):
looks ordinary. He I mean the whole the whole aspect
to his game when he was with the Houston Texans
was he could beat you with his arm, he could
beat you with his legs. He was a real He
was really good inside of that Billy O'Brien system. But
he has been fragile and he's been win available without injury.

(01:13:07):
He's been unproductive as a starting quarterback in Cleveland. I'm
asking us, and it looks like he's walking off the
field early with another injury against the Baltimore Ravens. Here now,
he's been savaged in this game. This offensive line hasn't
done a great job of protecting him, and he took
a big hit on that failed attempt there on that

(01:13:28):
third down pass. But I mean, Deshaun Watson is not
the same quarterback he used to be. And my guess
is he's gonna be unavailable for this second half because
if anything we've learned about him since he's been in
Cleveland is he's usually unavailable.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Well, it's not really gonna make a difference in the
Browns offense. So not great with him, and they're certainly
not great without him. It's all about their defense. All right,
We roll on six games around the NFL. We're actually
into the second half of a few of these games.
For all the latest scores, stats, everything you need, keep
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five yards passing, two touchdowns and zero interceptions. George kittle
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back BACKA McCaffrey. They got everybody back and the forty
nine ers have dominated this game against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
So the Jags came in with a five game winning

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streak and we're just starting the second half with the
forty nine ers. Who you know, we were sitting here
Rich when they got to five and zero and just
blowing everybody out. Wow, I mean, how long will it
take before they lose a game? Will they lose a
game this year? And then the wheels fell off. They
had some injuries. Perdy all of a sudden looked humane.
But now that he has a full arsenal and they

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had a week off with the buye, they have regrouped
and at least.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Based on what we've seen so far.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Now, all of a sudden, the forty nine Ers looked
like the team we saw earlier this year.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'll say this about the
forty nine Ers is brock Perdy can still be an
elite level quarterback in this league, even though he looked
way more human, way more mortal. However you want to
describe him without some of his best weapons, because let's
be very honest with each other, what quarterback doesn't weren't

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we saying the same thing about Patrick Mahomes to start
the season with a new crop of receivers. He looked
pretty pedestrian for a couple of weeks, as his offense
was still gelling and he was figuring it out. A
lot of those wins were close wins early in the
season for the Chiefs, they were a bit out of sink. Now,
if two of those wins were losses to start the season,

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they started an zero to three hole. I think everybody's
sounding the panic alarms. But they were able to get wins,
and at the end of the day, God's all that
matters in this league is w's. There were two close
losses for the forty nine Ers in those three games
on that losing streak. One of them was very winnable.
In fact, Party in Cleveland was able to get them

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within field goal range and Jake Moody missed that kick.
So I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't sitting here thinking like,
oh my gosh, the forty nine ers are dumb with
Party has gotten figured out. No, he was just missing
some weapons and then he got dinged up before the
bye week. But now back one hundred percent healthy or
as close to it as you could be at week
ten of the season, I think the forty nine ers

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are ready to roll again, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
The Texans had a touchdown nullified by a penalty illegal touching.
We're still trying to figure out that call, so they
settled for a field goal, increasing their lead to thirteen
to seven over the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
CJ.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Stroud is sixteen of twenty six, two hundred and forty
three yards passing and a touchdown. Joe Burrow has ninety
four yards passing right and CJ. Stroud has two hundred
and forty three yards passing. And by the way, the
touchdown that was nullified to Robert Woods was as good
a pass as you're going to see. Woods was blanketed

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would double coverage and Stroud literally put the ball in
the only spot he could have caught it. It was
a clear touchdown, but callback because of penalty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
So for whatever reason, Robert Woods he was an eligible receiver,
and so did CJ. Stroud because he wasn't supposed to
be and shouldn't have touched the ball on that play.
So that's the reason why that gets called back and nullified.
How is he illegal? Is a wide receiver? You can
you can have formation set up where receivers are ineligible

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because you add extra lineman or you have an extra.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
So he's on the line and then there's someone outside
of him and on the line, which makes him obviously
an interior line.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Exactly right, which sounds bizarre, but it absolutely can be.
So so yeah, somebody messed up. Somebody messed up their alignment,
and so unfortunately for CJ. Stroud in this Texans offense,
that one comes off the board.

Speaker 6 (01:18:40):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I wanted to bring this up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I saw this quote yesterday from Michael Parsons of the Cowboys.
So he says it is time for the NFL to
increase the number of officials on the field because it is
runaway blatant holding.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Going on throughout the league.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Right now, now, there's a former offensive lineman in the
National Football League, Michael Parsons, one of the top edge
guys in this league. Right for him to say it
is time to like double the size of the officiating
crew in the NFL so that all these blatant holding
calls actually get called. Are you with him or is he?

(01:19:25):
Are you crying tears for the guys?

Speaker 9 (01:19:27):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Here here's Does he have a real gripe? Yeah, he
definitely does. However, because holding is a subjective penalty, and
because defenders are guilty of subjective penalties on every single play,
I don't think you want to open that Pandora's box.
What you think the NFL the product that the National
Football League is going to be better with more penalties called?

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
How about how about like a dozen holding calls called
each game on each team?

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
How that look that? That sounds like torture? So no,
Michael Parsons, I mean I defend the point he's making,
because he's absolutely right, there's uncalled holding penalties on every
single plays in the NFL. In fact, I've admitted to
it throughout my career. I was a cheater. Yeah, I
held on every single play I was involved on during

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my NFL career, But if you have extra officials, it'll
make for a worse product. So I vehemently disagree with
that that concept.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Vikings may score again. Joshua Dobbs is absolutely unstoppable. So
are we much more coverage of the NFL coming up?
This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Rolling along on another.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Crazy week in the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
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this week ten of the National Football League? And the
two hottest quarterbacks in the league are CJ. Stroud and

(01:21:00):
Joshua Dobbs. So both of them led remarkable come from
behind victories last week.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Today, c J.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Stroud on the road against the Bengals seventeen to twenty seven,
two hundred and fifty four yards and a score.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
No picks, by the way, he's throwing what one pick?

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
The entire season, and they are leading at Cincinnati twenty
to seven. Meanwhile, Joshua Dobbs last week, who had not
taken a single snap with the first string offense, came
in led a huge come from behind victory for the
Vikings Today as his follow up nineteen to twenty five,
two hundred and thirty six yards, one touchdown, no pick.

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He's also run for forty yards and his score, and
the Vikings are wiping out the Saints by a score
of twenty seven to three. So right now, these are
the two hottest quarterbacks in the league. CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Stroud and Joshua Dots. Yeah, just as we suspected. Yes,
this season is on drugs. This season makes no sense.
We've seen a lot of turmoil at the quarterback position
due to injury and poor play. I mean, Deshaun Watson,
if it weren't for injuries, I mean, it's it's possible

(01:22:14):
that at some point this season he could be benched
because he's just it doesn't even look like he's the
best option in Cleveland. It's really really strange what's going
on around the NFL. And yeah, I will I will
say this, the Houston Texans, what Demiko Rans is doing
Bobby Slowick is a name that you're gonna start hearing

(01:22:35):
making the rounds in terms of head coaching candidates. Here
the offensive coordinator in Houston. This team is, I mean,
they are unbelievably impressive. I don't know how the Texans
have been able to do this so quickly, but they
are expediting this timeline of rebirth or growth or whatever

(01:22:57):
you want to call it. They hit the reset button
and they drafted a second overall on offensive dynamo in c. J.
Stroud and a very capable defender in Will Anderson Junior,
and they really haven't looked back. They're making stars out
of Nicocollins and Tank Dell and Devin Singletary. This season

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makes no sense, but here we are. And then Joshua Dobbs.
They're now The nickname going on him is the Pastronaut. Yeah,
I mean, because he came in from outer space and
he is just absolutely dominant with the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
He is unreal how good he has been in such
a short amount of time for this Vikings team. But again,
this is a guy who led the Cardinals that they're
one victory of the ear over. The Cowboys played a
very competitive game against the forty nine ers. Then the
wheels came off in Arizona. But wow, it is a rebirth.
Can you say, Geno Smith, That's what Joshua Dobbs looks
like right now. Meanwhile, the Ravens have added to their

(01:23:56):
lead a forty yard touchdown pass Lamar Jackson to Odell
Beckham Junior, and the Ravens lead the Browns by a
score of twenty four to nine. And that is a
big hill to cline when your quarterback Deshaun Watson is
six of twenty passing for seventy nine yards and a
pick six.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Now, something I want to point out because you mentioned
Gino Smith in the same voice, or I should say
the same breath as you did Joshua Dobbs. And now
what's happening in Minnesota right career journeyman finds the right spot. Okay,
So when you look at Gino Smith and his recent success,
what do you attribute it to the most?

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Well, I My thinking on every quarterback in this league
that has success is a coaching staff that recognizes what
is their strength and will actually design an offense to
amplify what they do best. In other words, we're going
to actually try to put them in a position where

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they can succeed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Culture building head coaches, Yes, culture building head coaches, Andy Reid,
his success with Alex Smith, who was a cast off
from San Francisco, his success with Patrick Mahomes, his success
prior to that in Philadelphia with Donovan McNabb, Bill Belichick,
with Tom Brady, Pete Carroll, now with Russell Wilson and
Gino Smith. You look around the NFL, Doug Peterson with

(01:25:22):
Carson Winson, Nick Foles and now moving on to Trevor Lawrence.
When you look around the NFL, and this is both
recently an end of the pass with Jimmy Johnson and
Troy Aikman, I go back as far as you want,
Bill Walsh in Montana. You need a good culture builder,
you need a great quarterback. If you have those two things,
you have successful equations. So you mentioned Gino Smith, good

(01:25:42):
culture building head coach in Pete Carroll, you mentioned Joshua
Dobbs finding his way to Minnesota and having success. Kevin O'Connell.
We cannot discount what he's gotten out of Kirk Cousins
over a season and part of another. With this season
in Minnesota, it's the best Kirk Cousins have ever looked.
I was a rookie head coach last year, won tons
of close games and everybody said that bubbles about to burst. Well,

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I believe in Kevin O'Connell. I think he's a really
talented guy. And you're seeing it happen again with Joshua Dobbs.
Which brings us to the New England Patriots, who lost
earlier today in Germany to the Colts. They dropped to
two to eight in the season. Mac Jones is not
a special quarterback. Mac Jones is not a special quarterback.
Bill Belichick's a special head coach. So for anybody thinking

(01:26:26):
that Bill Belichick is toasting this league like he's part
of this bygone era, re go look at Pete Carroll,
Go look at Andy Reid. Guys who people were starting
to talk about being over in the NFL. Andy Reid
had a rebirth in Kansas City. Pete Carroll, they were
talking about the end of the Russell Wilson era in Seattle,

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like he should be on the hot seat. Look what
he's done with Gino Smith. Great coaches need great quarterbacks
to be great. So I look, I get it, there's
gonna be a lot of pitchforks and torches in New England.
But if you think Bill Belichick isn't a good coach
because Mac Jones can't carry a football team, I got
another thing coming for you. You're wrong. Well, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
By the way, Belichick of course made a late game
quarterback change. He benched mac Jones after that ill timed
interception and brought in Zappi, who threw another outrageous I
don't know what the play call was. It was a
first down, you're down four, yeah, and you do a

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fake spike. And by the way, it wasn't. Normally, if
you're going to do a fake spike, you would take
the direct snap and then throw it down. But Zappy
actually backed up a few steps, then did a fake spike,
threw it over the middle, triple coverage throws the interception.
Belichick after the game was asked by your favorite reporter

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in Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Who is it, Mike Reese? No, the Podo guy? Uh oh, Tom, No, shoot,
I know you're talking, go ahead and yes by him.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
He was asked about what the coach quarterback situation is
going to be next week, and Belichick's answer was a
quick retort, We'll worry about next week next week.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Of course that'schick ben Volan, Oh Ben Vollen with the
bust and glove.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Yeah, so Ben Voleen and his answer to him was,
we'll worry about next week next week.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Look, that's that's the way it's always been in New
England and now now, don't get me wrong, I think
I do think that with Tom Brady and obviously with
Mac Jones earlier in his career in New England, there
would be a little bit more rush to defense, like
you know, Max are starting quarterback. Tom's you know, there
have been times in his past where he's had to

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answer questions about this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
By the way, yes, for the record, next week they
have a bye, So I'm gonna guess no quarterback and
the bye.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Yeah, but how was this bye week going to work
for the Patriots. It's gonna be absolutely awful. It's going
to be torturous. But again, if Patrick Mahomes was in
New England, would things look different right now? If if
Gino Smith even was in New England, would things look
different right now? Well, we're talking about a guy that
had a great rookie season. If Derek Carr was in

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New England, would it look like Mac Jones gone backwards
after his rookie Speaking of which, we have a Saints
update from Monty.

Speaker 10 (01:29:25):
Derek Carr is no longer in the game right now.
He had a hard hit from Daniel Hunter. Jamis Winston
went in through a touchdown pass to Chrystal lave Alvin
Kamara with a successful two point conversion. So now the
Saints are still down, but on scoreboard officially twenty seven
to eleven hours the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
So what we're trying to say is is that this
is a plus for the Saints that Derek Carr is
out and Jamis Winston is in.

Speaker 10 (01:29:48):
What we're saying, I'm just saying in this moment, things
are looking up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Okay, So I'm just I mean, I did a little
clarification right there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
We had a play in the San Francisco forty nine
Ers game. It looked like the forty nine Ers strip
was at Ombre Thomas. It was stripped one of Jacksonville's
receivers and then dove on the football and then the
rest of the defense was like, dude, nobody downed you.
You can get up and run the football. So he
jumped to his feet, ran the length of the football field.

(01:30:16):
It's counted as a fumble return for a touchdown as
it stands. Right now, they're reviewing whether or not he
went out of bounds when he was downed, and no,
it doesn't look like so. Trevor Lawrence made a diving
attempt to stop him before the end zone. But that'll
be good for six and right now the forty nine
ers have a significant lead. It'll be twenty six.

Speaker 6 (01:30:38):
To three if this score stands.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Did you see Trevor Lawrence tackling the guy after he'd
already scored on the back of his legs.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Thomas was like two yards into the end zone and
Trevor Lawrence still dove at his running gear. That was
that A little bit dirty? Little bit dirty to say
the least.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
The Bengals got a field goal, but still trail the
Texans twenty to two. We got three minutes to go
in the third quarter in that game. All right, We're
rolling along here, heading toward the ends of these third quarters.
Which games will have an exciting finish? It happens every
single week to find out. Keep it right here. This
is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
First and goal inside the six Stroud under center and
here's motion. CJ pushes the ball the singletary right side
run and deep it is in touchdown Houston singl Terry
with the rushing TD.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
That's the Texas Radio network right there. Texans at that
point with a twenty to three lead on the road
against the Bengals. But uh, guess what, actually twenty to
seven lead. Things have changed. Will update you on that
in a moment. Once again, this is Fox Sports Red
Zone Radio. We are live from the tire rack dot
Com studio. Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger with you. So,

(01:31:55):
the Bengals got a field goal to make it twenty
to ten, and you have to remind yourself who the
Bengals quarterback is. His name is Joe Burrow. You may
have heard of the guy, and he's really good. And
so he just had an incredible play where he scrambled
to his left, stopped, threw the ball down the field

(01:32:16):
and found his favorite target, Jamar Chase sixty four yard
touchdown pass and just like that, the Bengals are down
three as we come to the end of the third
quarter in that game. So, I mean, the CJ. Stroud
story continues to just be mind blowing. But again, this
is a different Bengals team than we saw earlier in

(01:32:37):
the year, and it's all due to the health of
Joe Burrow. Now we are seeing the Joe Burrow and
why he's special and why he.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Never is out of a game.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
That's that rarefied era of quarterback where you're always sort of,
you know, until the final gun, you'd never say you're
out of a game.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
And that was that kind of play.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Joe Burrow now twenty at twenty five, one hundred ninety
one yards, two towns, no picks well.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
And this is also a special tandem because Burrow and
Chase played together at the college level. Like Jamar Chase
has no question that he can make this throw. So
Joe Burrow is rolling out at his own thirty yard
line and being chased by a Houston Texans defensive end.
That ball landed in the arms of Jamar Chase at

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the Texans twenty five yard line like he threw a
frozen rope from his non throwing side of the field,
basically leaping off his feet to get enough on it,
and the ball it came out of his hand like
it was shot from a gun. It was unbelievable. I
mean Joe Burrow. Like you said, it's a rarefied talent.
This is you don't see guys come to the NFL.

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Even his rookie season, we saw how special he was.
Now it was shortened due to a hillacious knee injury,
but we saw a special he could be and he's
only gotten better. All Right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
The Browns trying to get in this game against the
Ravens and they are in the en zone.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Hunt gets in, he backs his way into the end
zone and that was a beautiful run. Pretty well blocked
up front, well defended also by the Baltimore Ravens. Had
to stop to had a chance to stop Hunt before
pushing his way over the goal line. But that was
a hard fought drive for the Cleveland Browns. What was
that like fifteen plays it took them to get down there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Well, again, they're having to do it with an ineffective
quarterback Deshaun Watson is just not throwing the ball. Well,
he has only one hundred and twenty five yards passing
in this game, So they're gonna go for a two
point version.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
They're down to nine at reventeen plays, seventy five yards.
That just took ten minutes off the clock. They've basically
held the ball the entirety of the third quarter so far.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
Jerome Ford, by the way, has had a really good
game running the ball for Cleveland thirteen carries eighty three yards,
Kareem Hunt eight for twenty six, so they gotten the
job done on the ground, averaging about five yard to carry. Again,
it's about their defense, it's about their running game, it's
about everything other than their passing game, because they just
don't have a passing game right now with Deshaun Watson.

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So they're down nine, they're going to go for the
two point conversion. I think this is the right call
two and a half minutes ago in the third quarter
in that game, By the way, the closest game right
now is the Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Green Bay game.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Maybe a little more offense than we actually expected in
this game, Pittsburgh hanging on to a twenty to nineteen lead.
The difference here is a missed extra point, actually a
blocked extra point earlier in the game. Jordan Love has
played well. Rich thirteen to twenty four, hundred and seventy
one yards, two touchdowns, no picks, so he's playing well.
Kenny Pickett is Kenny Pickett twelve of eighteen hundred and

(01:35:46):
eighteen yards. Here's the key stat no interceptions.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Yeah, past two weeks the Jordan Love Show, it's kind
of arrived to town.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
Two point conversion is good, by the way for the Browns.
So they are now down seven on the road against
the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
Yeah, and I don't blame them for calling this play.
It looked like it was setting up to be a
passing play, but it could have been a plan QB
draw either way. Deshaun Watson not trusting his arm more
so his legs saw smart a pass lane open up.
He took it and rushed it in himself for two points.
So it's a twenty four to seventeen ballgame in Baltimore,

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Ravens over the Browns. But yeah, back to this Jordan
Love Green Bay Packers offense. It's really it's really something
to behold all of a sudden, like he's it's starting
to come together for him and Matt Lafleur for years
had success with Aaron Rodgers, so you know they have
some belief in him as a coordinator, as a head coach.

(01:36:41):
It truly is a tryout for Jordan Love and if
he can't get this thing figured out. They'll go into
the draft and they'll figure it out for themselves. So
the Steelers trying to put together a drive. They just
had a big run, got them a first down near midfield,
and like you said, they own a one point lead
twenty to nineteen in Pittsburgh over the Packers.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
One game we haven't spoken a lot about that really
hasn't been much going on is Tampa Bay and Tennessee.
The Bucks lead this game by a score of seventeen
to six. We're inside twelve minutes to go in the
fourth quarter. Another good game for Baker Mayfield. Seventeen to
twenty seven, two hundred and seventy three yards, two touchdowns.
He did throw a pick in this game. Mike Evans
another big day, six catches, one hundred and forty three

(01:37:24):
yards and a score. The rookie Will Levis for Tennessee
not much fifteen to twenty four hundred and thirty three yards,
no touchdowns, no picks. Baker Mayfield's future in Tampa obviously,
he's one of those chip on the shoulder, back to
the wall careers on the line, and he finds a

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way to respond right. But can Tampa build a future
around Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
No, I don't think that's the plan. I doubt if
that's the plan. I mean, he's on a one year deal.
You know, everybody knew what this was when Baker signed that.
You know, Baker is not the future at Tampa Bay.
He's a band aid on the salary cap issues they
have due to the Tom Brady contract.

Speaker 6 (01:38:09):
They're still paying a portion.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Of touchdown Houston see J. Stroud on the keeper. So
after the big pass play from Joe Burrow to Jamar Chase, CJ.
Stroud leeds Houston right down the field.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
How did they How did they get all the way
down there? They were at their own twenty a second ago.
This was a five six play, seventy five yard drive. Yeah,
but hang on, go to the play before that CJ.
Stroud score. What the heck just happened?

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
All right? So the big play in this drive was
a thirty six yard pass oh Noah Brown to Brown
to Noah Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Okay, so they get down to the Cincinnati thirty six
and then yeah, Stroud rushes it in for an eight
yard scramble.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Singletary's had a really nice game for them on the
ground today. Singletary as twenty one carries for one hundred
and twelve yards and a score. It's always a lot
easier to run the ball when you have an effective
passing game. And Stroud two hundred ninety four yards and
a touchdown and now he just scored one on the ground.
So twenty seven seventeen, Houston back to a ten point

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lead inside thirteen minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
And again, when you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Look at things that separate an average quarterback from an
elite quarterback is how do you respawn after the other
team makes a big play?

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
And listen, no offense to Baker Mayfield. Because I think
Baker Mayfield is a fine quarterback in this league. He's
probably going to remain a starter. He's probably earned himself
another shot the way he's performed so far for the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I just think they're probably I mean,
let's see how this season goes. I don't want to

(01:39:52):
call this season over. And frankly, Tampa Bay is over
performing this year with them with him, and who knows,
maybe he is the bridge quarterback to the future in
Tampa Bay if they want to make a move in
the draft or something like that, or potentially if they
get hot in the second half of the season, who knows.
But right now he's a band aid to a bigger problem,

(01:40:13):
a contractual issue, a salary cap issue in Tampa Bay,
and he's overperformed. There are three and five football team though,
so I don't want to get too far over our skis.
They're playing against a team with a brand new starting
quarterback and Will Levis and they're they're beating them for now.
We'll see how the rest of this game goes. But
if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to they drop to three

(01:40:34):
and six on the season, I mean, I mean, what
are we selling here?

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
You know? I mean Baker Mayfield, that's I mean, there's
five going into the stag. It's not like you know,
they have a winning record anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
I mean, will they give them another deal if they
don't have any other options? Maybe if he gets offers elsewhere.
I don't know who else would offer him a deal.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
It would almost make more sense for Tampa Bay if
they lose this game to bench Baker. I mean to
be perfectly honest with you, because look at the Cardinals,
Like it's almost confounding that the Cardinals are going to
play Kyler Murray at all. Like you, You almost feel
like they should just leave him on the shelf and
find a way to continue to plummet your draft stock

(01:41:18):
like you've tried to do all season. Anyways, You've either
cut or traded away your best options at quarterback, and
now Kyler Murray's gonna come back and play. It's weird.
So I some of these franchises, it's almost like for
these fan bases, it's mixed messaging.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Just be bad this season, get better for next year.
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.
I saw Monsey jumping up and down. That mean something
positive is happening with their fantasy football?

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
What's going on? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:41:45):
No, is that the pizzas arrived?

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Oh holy man? Why are we even talking right now?

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
I don't know because you called on me. But that's
the celebration. You saw that the pizza has arrived. So
thank you, but just you?

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
And mean how because Rich left rich Bot, so he
has had option he.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
Should be the first one to grab a slice of pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
He did treat a slice of pizza. Well have you
seen Rich eat?

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
He's on a diet.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
He is skinny, Well not going to be on a
diet today.

Speaker 5 (01:42:17):
I promise you that's a cheat day.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Yeah, Rich's classic.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
As long as I know Rich, you know, he's had
up and down so this weight and everything else, and
then he would have like cheat days that would become
cheat weeks and cheat months.

Speaker 5 (01:42:30):
Fully understand that. Yeah, it just keeps rolling over.

Speaker 10 (01:42:36):
Well, let's talk about that Texans and the Bengals here,
because Joe Burrow connected with Jamar Chase for a sixty
four yard touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:42:43):
But then CJ. Stroud has just rushed for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
He's incredible, so good, Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
It's crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:42:53):
So the Texans are beating the Bengals twenty seven seventeen
early in.

Speaker 5 (01:42:57):
The fourth quarter. But ye, CJ.

Speaker 10 (01:42:59):
Stroud twohun in ninety four yards, one touchdown in the
air and one touchdown on the ground.

Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
Also incredible.

Speaker 10 (01:43:05):
Joshua Dobbs, He's thrown for two hundred and forty six
yards and one touchdown. The Vikings are beating the Saints
twenty seven to eleven, also early in the fourth the
close game. It's been a close the entire time between
the Packers and the Steelers. Pittsburgh's still up twenty to
nineteen early in the fourth, so we'll see how that
one ends. Baker Mayfield, He's thrown for two hundred and

(01:43:25):
seventy eight yards, two touchdowns, he has one interception. Mike
Evans six receptions, one hundred and forty three yards and
a touchdown, and the Buccaneers are beating the Titans seventeen
to six, and they are also in the red zone.

Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
Forty nine ers.

Speaker 10 (01:43:38):
That touchdown that we thought was a touchdown didn't actually count,
but they did score again. So the forty nine ers
are up on the Jaguars twenty seven to three. It's
been all forty nine ers after losing three in a row.
Brock Purty two hundred and fifty four yards and two
touchdowns in the air, George Kittle three receptions, one hundred

(01:43:59):
and sixteen yard on one touchdown, and then the Ravens
are still up on the Browns twenty four to seventeen,
about one minute left in the third quarter. In NBA news,
Lebron James will miss his first game of the season
today for the Lakers against the Blazers with a left
calf contusion.

Speaker 5 (01:44:17):
Well, he's been playing every minute.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
You know, all their game plan about limiting his minutes
early in the year. He's playing more minutes now than
he's ever played before.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
He's been he's been playing basketball since the Clinton administration,
and he's playing more minutes than anybody in the league.

Speaker 5 (01:44:35):
Round right, It's nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
But no, one, if you're a Laker fan, you don't
give a crap about games in November.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
No, but the Lagers live by two.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
Rules, as Kobe used to say to me back in
the day, flex they're two greats A.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Or embel Bragg.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
Either you win a championship or you don't win a
championship period. Yea, that's Lakers.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
Yes. Can we tell James Harden that it was hard?

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
And that was what did I tell you?

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Your owner is one of the ten wealthiest people in
the world, apparently does not take an account brain powers
because it made zero sense to give up what they
had to give for a thirty four year old James Harden.

Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
If you're the Beard dog, no, yeah, we fear it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Go home, Go home.

Speaker 5 (01:45:21):
The forty nine ers just scored again. Thirty four to
three is a score. That's the Jaguars, and Rich's enjoying
the pizza. So that's my turn back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
Guys, it is your turn, and it'll be my turn
when we get to our expert.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Yeah, the forty Ninja turtle. I mean, I'm pretty sure
I could survive only on.

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
Pieces me too.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Oh my gosh, Nazi's a big dude. This is I
haven't had so long. This is like lifeblood. It's coursing
through me. I feel stronger better. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Forty nine Ers thirty four to three. Wow, this was
almost a guarantee. Uh. I was doing TV last night
and they asked me outside of the local teams. I
was gonna pick the Bye over the Rams, but I
thought the better of it anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Yeah, I said, what other game do you like? You
give us a third game.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Because you canna pick the Chargers game, the Raiders game.
I said, let's let's go with that forty nine Ers
Jags game. I'm forty nine ers. That's three point favorites
on the road. Everyone's like, should I believe in the Jags?
I believe in the Jags.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Oh, Burrow just through a pick? Now, I Joey just
through a pick. They were going down the field looking
for his tight end and the Houston Texans come up
with a timely interception, this leading by ten on the
road at Cincinnati, Joe Burrow just through an interception bounced
off the hands of his tight end into the waiting

(01:46:44):
arms of a safety. Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Texans lay that game twenty seven to seventeen. We're inside
ten minutes ago in the fourth quarter. Texans win this game. Okay,
let's take a look right now at the standings in
the AFC South. You had the Jaguars at six and two.
That's about to become six and three. The Colts get
a gift today by playing the Patriots. They're at five

(01:47:10):
and five. Sure, Texans win would get them to five
and four, and the Titans are trailing, they would drop
to three and six.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
Well, they beat the Jags heads up earlier in the season, right.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Right, So in the playoff picture right now, which is
the only thing that really actually matters, Texans are right
now the ten seed, but they could move up to
the eighth seed with a victory today, which would put
him right on the edge of getting in the postseason.
I mean, this would be unreal because, again, outside of CJ.

(01:47:47):
Stroud and maybe Will Anderson on the defense, I mean,
this is an anonymous roster.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Whoa, whoa, what about Tank Dell, Tank Dell, how about him?
What about Devin Singletary? Singletary had a.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
Pretty decent college card, but he had over one hundred
yards today on the ground Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
I really thought the Bengals were back. Nico Cones never
heard of him, He's a three year pro sieve.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Yeah, Steelers right now, clinging to that one point laid
over the Green Bay Packers were about nine and a
half minutes ago. Steelers have the ball, they will start
at their own thirty three yard line. Meanwhile, the Saints
offering little resistance here on the road against a Viking,
still trail twenty seven to three. We're underway in the

(01:48:33):
fourth quarter. And then they interest you in a little no. Well,
Nico Collins is how about Noah Brown? Former cowboy? Yeah again,
I want to offer a preview of a game coming
up a little bit later on. Moncey is sporting her
Chargers cap today, and well, we have a guy that

(01:48:56):
usually is part of the show. Now we bring a
ia am today and Chris is a diehard Lions fan.
You know, we always talk about Chargery, right, how Chargers
find a way to lose games. Let's not forget that.
In my lifetime, which is a long lifetime, the Detroit
Lions of one playoff game in my lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
The Detroit Lions. Yes, they're not very good. They have
been awful. They've been awful. I mean, like, if there's
one thing, well, actually I should say it's death taxes
and Detroit screwing it up.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
Well, that's my point soever franchise is that find ways,
when it seems like they're trending in the right direction,
find a way to screw things up, which makes it
an interesting matchup.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
If there's one thing Detroit really got right this time around, Yeah,
and what feels very different is Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Okay, how many playoff games has he won so far?

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
Well, that's gonna be zero. Now that's because he hasn't
been to the playoffs, that is correct. But he's well
on a this year. Yeah, look, Dan Campbell, I think
he's done it the right way. Detroit. Frankly, the franchise
has done it the right way. They put a guy
in place, they gave him enough leash to get this
thing right. They weren't very good as rookie year. I mean,

(01:50:14):
did they win they won one game? Did they win
to his rookie year? They were awful record wise, but
I think everybody who saw Detroit on film, every game
that you watch where Detroit was a part of it,
you went, you know what, there's something there. That team
plays hard and they're one of the most dangerous teams
in the NFC. Well in year two, you saw what
they did last year, all of a sudden starting to

(01:50:36):
string together some wins, some success this year in his
third year as a head coach. I think Detroit's one
of the most dangerous teams out of a pretty crowded NFC.
And I mean, if I'm going to choose a side,
it's hard to it's hard to bet against Detroit on
the road here.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
Well, Eva Monsi says she's going with Detroit. She said
that on her national radio show show, so I know, right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And there was not a recording that
was Monty responding live shots definitely not eating pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:51:09):
I mean, do you feel the pressure now that you
and Alex have this national show that when you're you
understand when you're on the record with a pick and
take it from an expert, okay, because people will never
let you forget when you make a really bad pick.

Speaker 5 (01:51:23):
Yeah, No, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Yeah, well that's the only thing you can say is
that you can't.

Speaker 5 (01:51:27):
I mean, I'm not telling you. I'm not telling you,
like what does Rob Parker say, I'm not telling you
who to pick. I'm just telling you what I would pick. Yes,
that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
But some people will see a trend if you start
making some good picks, right then people put their money
down on your pick.

Speaker 5 (01:51:41):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (01:51:42):
I had like a couple of good weeks and I
had a friend that like was following my picks, and
then last week I was no bueno.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Yeah, so yes, well rich Richards and eyewitness to my
locks in the past where people literally are begging for
a lock so they can go the other way.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
Steve is famous, famous for picking the wrong side. I
mean it's unreal. I mean I loved Jags today. That
was one of my kicks on TV left.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
I purposely picked that game because we had the Raiders,
we had the Chargers, but no Rams game this week,
so they said, give us a third game that you
really like.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
I go, I love the.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
Jags over the forty minute love. I made that pick
at midnight touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Justice still gets him for the Ravens, however, there's a
flag on the play. We'll see where it came in
from the defensive side, so we'll see what this is on.
But Baltimore trouncing the Browns in.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
Yeah, it's always a one score game that goes well,
and that's against the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
So take that off the board. They put that one
up all of a sudden, it's two score game. But okay,
so that one comes off the ball off the board.
You got a Baltimore Ravens offensive lineman guilty of holding
their center.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Now they have a first and goal the sixteen yard line. Again,
still a one score game and plenty of time left
in this game. The problem for Cleveland is they can't
make any big plays well passing the ball, and that's
kind of the reason.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
Early on it was dominant. I think they rushed out
to a seventeen to nothing lead. If I'm not mistaken,
it might have been seventeen to three, and then they've
added since. But the Cleveland Browns the reason why I
say the Baltimore Ravens have been dominating and now facing
a first in goal from the Cleveland thirteen yard line here,
the Baltimore Ravens will after that penalty is because this

(01:53:26):
game it's felt one sided. The Cleveland Browns offense can't
get anything really going.

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Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
We're all the latest. Keep it here. This is Fox
Sports Red Zone Radio. Here's Lakefield shotgun. Look looks right,
hop back too left, those towards left.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Caughtbaull Levens at the five point two what touchdowns? Have
a bay there you go. Fire the cannons by Kevins.
That's ninety eight Rock Buccaneers or Radio Network Buccaneers lead
the Titans twenty to six right now, three and a half,
two minutes to go, currently in the fourth quarter of
that game. Steve Hartman and Rich Armberger, this is Fox
Sports Red Zone Radio. We are live from the tire

(01:54:18):
Rack dot Com studios and man oh Man. Joe Burrow
just threw another interception the Houston Texans are in control.
They have a ten point lead and the ball inside
four minutes to go in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
C J.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Stroud, who, by the way, is thrown one interception this
year as a rookie, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
Pretty sure the Baltimore Ravens have been facing first in
goal or a goal to go. Are they still in that? Yeah?
Since noon? Yeah? What is going on? There must have
been three penalties called. There was the one on the
lineman that backed it up to the Cleveland thirteen. Now
it's second goal and now it's touchdown Raves. Is that
Justice Hill again? Who got in there? Gus Edwards? You know?

(01:55:04):
So after Keaton Mitchell got his early in the game,
Gus gets his. And so it's a thirty to seventeen ballgame.
Finally in Baltimore. As they take the lead over or
I should say they had the lead, they add to
their lead over the Browns.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
All right, So here are the scores right now. Six
games around the NFL. Bengals trailing the Texans twenty seven
to seventeen, three forty to go on the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
There inside Tim and Crowd just threw an interception after
Joe Burrow throws his its first and goal for the
Bengals at the Houston inside the five yard line. Oh
my goodness, watch this throw. This is a second interception
of the year. What was he doing? He throws late
to the platte looking for Tank Dell, and Tank Dell

(01:55:50):
tackles the corner who is ded up on him in
man coverage, saving the touchdown return. That is unbelievable. What
just happened there.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
So the Texans again with a ten point lead and
the ball inside four minutes to go, seemingly in control
and Stroud that is the worst pass that he has
thrown all season long. So first and goal for the
Bengals at the four yard line. Burrow looks and throws.

Speaker 6 (01:56:16):
A bad throw.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
Throw he was looking for Irwin was wide, and it's
either Irwin look. I mean, Irwin's getting some reps here.
And I know that Joe Burrow likes him, but you
blame that on the receiver in the situation, because I
guess he was supposed to run kind of a wheel
route up to the corner of the end zone and
he flattened out at the goal line and he knows it. Yeah,

(01:56:40):
that was on number sixteen, And so Joe Burrow gets
a second goal opportunity after what would have been a
I mean a gimme touchdown pass.

Speaker 1 (01:56:49):
All right, Burrow's second down, they need a touchdown quick
and he throws to the end zone out of the
end zone and there's a.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Flat defensive pass interference on the Houston Texans, so they'll
get you on goal distance because.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
Once in the end zone will be first and goal
at the one.

Speaker 6 (01:57:05):
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
So while that's going on, Vikings leading the Saints still
inside ten minutes to go in the fourth quarter, but
it's a one score game now. Vikings were up twenty
seven to three in this game, and then we saw
Derek Carr go.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
Down with an injury.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
Jameis Winston came in and he has led a Saints comeback.
So they're down eight inside ten minutes to go in
the fourth quarter. There, Steelers still hanging on to a
four point lead over the Backers, twenty three to nineteen,
three and a half minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
Two minute warning. In Tampa, this one's going to be over.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
Buccaneers have the ball and a twenty six lead over
the Titans. It's been all forty nine Ers today and
they're trying to add to it up thirty four to
three on the road against the Jaguars. They have a
second goal at the jags nineteen nine yard line and
the Ravens in control to score lead thirty one to
seventeen over the Browns eleven a half minutes to go.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
There y penalty right now. Yeah, it's going to be
DPI against Houston. And it looks like why are they
declining it? It looks like Cincinnati decline. Why would you
decline an automatic first down? Oh wait a second, Wait
a second, they're calling on Sincy offensive pass interference.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
No, it was a defensive pass interference. Oh no, they
did take his first and goal at the one yard line. Yeah,
here we go, all right, here we go. So the
Bengals trying to get back in this game, run it
up the middle touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
So just like that, the Bengals, seemingly out of this game,
are right back in this game with the score Joe
Mixon getting the one yard score. So extra point penning
right now. But we've got potential back to a three pointo.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
Mistakes are everything in this league if you can minimize them,
like clearly the Pittsburgh Steelers have throughout this season where
they have a twenty three to nineteen lead in the
fourth quarter hosting the Green Bay Packers. You know, I
mean Kenny Pickett. He's not a world beater at quarterback,
zero interception, but he's he's only thrown four on the season.

(01:59:11):
You know, he keeps it clean. Now, he doesn't wow you.
He's only had six touchdown passes so far this year.
But he's not making the mistakes that bite you. And
by the way, CJ. Stroud hasn't this season either.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
No, this is only the second interception he has thrown
the entire year.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
But mistakes can kill you, especially in games against quarterbacks
like Joe Burrow, because he will make you pay. And now,
all of a sudden, it's a three point game here
as Cincinnati has to kick off to the Houston Texans
with three eighteen left in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:59:41):
All Right, you mentioned the Steelers, they had the ball
and the lead at home against Green Bay, trying to
go to six and three. Can you pick at one
hundred and twenty six yards passing. Yeah, no touchdowns, no picks.
But Jalen Warren twelve carries eighty nine yards in a score.
Nowjee Harris sixteen carries eighty two yards in a score.
They almost have two yards rushing. That's how the Steelers

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do it along with their defense.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
Crazy, It's just crazy. It's I mean, it's so consistent
with the Steelers' game plan. It's played great defense, possessed
the football, play keep away.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
All right, we got some finishes coming up. Who's going
to win that Bengals Texans game? Keep it right here
for the answer. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

Speaker 14 (02:00:21):
Watson out of the gun. In the backfield is Elijah Moore.
Watson takes the snap, drops back to past pressures coming
moving to his left pump Swantz throws inside the tennis.
Got more to go, one into the end zone. Touchdown Browns.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
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Browns have narrowed the Ravens lead thirty one to twenty four.
Still nine minutes to go in that game. Once again,
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Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Be Oh my goodness. So Greg Newsom picks off Lamart
Jackson takes it all the way to the house.

Speaker 11 (02:01:11):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:01:11):
It is a thirty one thirty ball game in Baltimore.
The Browns are about to tie this ball game if
they go for one, if they go for two, they
take the one point lead. After the tip pass falls
in the hand of the corner and he takes it
for about thirty five to the house. All right.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
So while that's going on, the Bengals, who were trailing
by ten and had just thrown an interception inside four
minutes to go in the game, Texans turn the ball over.
Bengals score, Bengals get the ball back. Oh ma, he
just missed the extra point.

Speaker 13 (02:01:47):
Yes, So the Browns went for the extra point and
the tie, and they missed the extra point.

Speaker 2 (02:01:54):
What is going all right? So thirty one thirty Ravens.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
But there's still a lot of time left in that game,
sixteen a lot less time in this game in Cincinnati.
So on first down from their seven yard or the
seven yard line of the Texans, Joe Burrow got sacked
for a seven yard loss. So it's now second and
goal at the fourteen yard line.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
Again, they're down three, one forty six to go.

Speaker 1 (02:02:18):
This would be an incredible comfort behind victory for the Bengals,
especially after the big Oh and they're running a quarterback
draw for a zero game. What kind of call is that?

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
A plan QB draw for no game? The defensive tackle,
I mean, just swallowed up Joe Burrow at the original
line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
Third and goal from the thirteen yard line. Now good,
that was a weird call.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
I can't believe that. Playing that Cleveland game.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
Oh, look at that they're showing a replay of it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so so Lamar Jackson on the ensuing
drive after the Cleveland score throws the football. It looked
like it was just gonna be tipped out the line
of scrimmage, but it bound so behind the air was
anybody's football, And so there you go. But yeah, back
to Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals team that are leading.

(02:03:09):
Really an unexpected comeback considering how well Houston had been playing.
But CJ. Stroudman made one mistake. You make one mistake
against a quarterback like Joe Burrow, all of a sudden,
the script could flip.

Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
All right, Well, third and golden owt the thirteen yard line.
If they don't get a touchdown here, it'll be a
game time. And it is drop.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
Oh, get it out of the hands. Was that Boyd?
That was Boyd? Now the hands of Tyler Boyd, who
earlier in the drive was the one who caught the
football and got them down to the Texan seven yard line.
Replay in this pass. So the pass was right there.

Speaker 1 (02:03:44):
Oh, it was right on the money, and he dropped it,
put it on his eyebrows.

Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
All Boyd had to do was squeeze both his hand.
How do you drop the ball with these gloves on? Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
Man, do you have no idea how sticky these gloves are?
That is inexcusable. So now the Bengals have to settle
for a field goal to tie this game. And we
saw what happened last week with CJ. Stroud when he
s evenly had lost the game. The field goal is good,
So plenty of time, one and a half minutes to

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go in the fourth quarter, twenty seven to all. And
if I'm the Bengals, this is not where I want
to be going up against CJ.

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
Strutt. Now, this guy's got ice water running through his veins.
Instead of red blood like the rest of us. This
guy he just is calm, cool, low heartbeat dude in
these situations inarguably, and it's a young career, but the
biggest moment, especially considering who's quarterbacking across the field from
you in his career. But what a game, what a

(02:04:45):
comeback for Cincinnati, and Tyler Boyd is furious. He just
threw his helmet coming off the field. He's got teammates
coming over and consoling him on the sideline. Yeah, that's
gonna be one that haunts him tonight, especially if Cincinnati
finds a way to lose it football game after tying it.
I mean, think about it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
He scores, they're up four, they're up four, all your
rushers are in Houston. They would have to score a
touchdown to win the game. Instead, they end up tying
the game and only need a field goal now to
come away with a victory. So these games are going on.
A couple other games still one score games. The Saints
have the ball trailing by eight on the road against
Minnesota with four minutes plus to go in this game.

(02:05:25):
Joshua does has been outstanding for Minnesota once again. Two
hundred and sixty eight yards passing forty four yards on
the ground.

Speaker 2 (02:05:33):
But the story of.

Speaker 1 (02:05:34):
This game has been Jameis Winston, who came in for
an injured Derek Carr and has shown two touchdown passes
for the Saints to get him back in this game.

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
All right, let's see what CJ. Stroud does.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
It is one thirty three to go in the fourth quarter,
tie game right now on the road against the Bengals. Obviously,
all they need to do is get in the field
goal position to get the victory. One mistake though, by CJ.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
I mean, it's just it. It's the way it goes
in this league. It's so consequential. Every single penalty, every
single turnover. It's just they are so consequential because all
these players are so good, especially when you're facing a
Bengals team with a all Pro quarterback like Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
By the way, final seconds here, Packers down four, have
a first down to the Pittsburgh sixteen yard line.

Speaker 2 (02:06:25):
It's a twenty seven and I'm back.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
This is at fourth down, play, last chance for the Packers.
They get a first down. No, this is at the sixteen.
All right, I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:06:34):
Ahead of this.

Speaker 6 (02:06:35):
Oh, you're ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:06:36):
I got ahead on this one here, So Packers have
the ball, spike it there you go. Okay, So at
the sixteen yard line they just spiked it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:43):
Three seconds left, So basically you have a shot, one
shot at the end zone. Correct down by four, they
need a touchdown here. Pittsburgh leading Green Bay twenty three
to nineteen, and all you need.

Speaker 2 (02:06:54):
To do is call QB draw for the win. That's it,
just like the Cincinnati Bengals. Six second in goal to
go from the thirteen yard line.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
All right, so one chance for the Packers to win
this game. Jordan Love does he have the magic?

Speaker 2 (02:07:11):
Look? He's played really well over the past two weeks.
I mean, he's got as good a shot as he doesn't.
And here we go, second and ten. Ooh, timeout called timeout. Timeout.
Looks like the Steelers want to take a closer look
at this one. I don't blame him. Holy smokes. If
the Steelers pull off this victory and they move to
six and three, it's all smoking mirrors. By the way,
Third and six for Houston.

Speaker 1 (02:07:32):
They have not been able to move the ball yet
on this drive tight NI game. With forty five seconds,
the clock is running. Third down and Stroud looks over
the middle, throws the ball and it's complete. It's god,
it's at the forty six yard line. Houston still has
one time.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
Comes up with the catching grab across the fifty yard line.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
Since he's forty six, they are letting the clock run.

Speaker 7 (02:07:58):
Though.

Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
Now they have a timeout twenty seconds left. They're not
in field goal range left. They still need to play.
They throw the ball and that's got to be out
of bounds. With still forty one yard line, that's a
long way away.

Speaker 2 (02:08:10):
From the field goal. They preserve. Here we go message a.

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
Final play for the Packers. They throw it to the
end zone. It is intercepted. That might go all the
way back the other way.

Speaker 5 (02:08:19):
And that is it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
The game is. Oh was that Matt Canada? He just
took out his own coach. What happened? He got a
promh Yeah. One of the green Bay Packers' offensive linemen
went flying out of the Steelers sideline.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
Oh, we have a brawl. He's overgas. Defeated green Bay
twenty three to nineteen. Dude, al right, back to this game.
He will get back to it. Here we go, all right,
second and five, bros. It's complete and he's off and running.

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
That is it. The clock's running seven six five cold timeout,
get down, cold time out, time out, Houston.

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
Tax seconds left. They're gonna line up lower field goal
to win the game.

Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
And there's a Cincinnati Bengal riving around on the ground.
Oh no, it's Trey Hendrickson. Oh no, that is bad.

Speaker 6 (02:09:09):
That is bad news.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
Yeah, he is face down. He's moving, but he's face
down and.

Speaker 1 (02:09:14):
He is in obvious pain right there.

Speaker 2 (02:09:17):
Meanwhile, Cincinnati's best pass rusher for anybody keeping checking home,
He's one of the pressure leaders in the league.

Speaker 1 (02:09:24):
Right now, another game up for grabs, Ravens Browns. The
Ravens just punted, so the Browns are gonna get the
ball at their own twenty five yard line, down by
one after the miss extra point five minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
Dude, what is happening right now? This is the best
finishes we've had all season long. We've waited till week ten.

Speaker 1 (02:09:45):
Well, we had games last week, Rich, we had games
last week.

Speaker 2 (02:09:48):
I mean we did. I mean we had the Dobs game,
we had the Stroud game. Maybe it's a pizza. It
is the pizza. Must be the pizza.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
By the way, A couple of games just underway. Falcons
at the Cardinals yeay, and then Lions at the Chargers.
And the Lions on their opening drive going right down
the field against the Chargers and they have the first
down at the Charger twelve yard lines. The Lions wasting
no time carving up that Charger defense.

Speaker 6 (02:10:13):
Yeah, no kidding, all right, So.

Speaker 1 (02:10:14):
We're going to get a field goal attempt by the Texans.

Speaker 2 (02:10:19):
Very makeable. Let's see my seconds left in the game,
tied to twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (02:10:23):
This is going to be thirty seven yard field goal
for the Texans.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
Oh, by the way, is Kayimi fair Barren back? I
haven't looked to see who was kicking for them all
game long, but he got injured last game and it
was dare Ogunbowale who took over the backup running back.
Did they sign a kicker in during the week.

Speaker 6 (02:10:44):
They brought in Matt Amondola.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
Okay, okay so, and he is lining up right now.

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
Officially it's going to be a thirty eight yard field
goal attempt for the win, and we are waiting on
the snap. The snap is there, the kick is up,
and the kick is good. Wow boy, almost push.

Speaker 2 (02:11:05):
I'm expiring the Houston Texans and CJ. Stroud lead a
come from behind drive to win the football goal tid well,
either way to win the football this okay, Dimiko Ryans,
can we just give them coach of the.

Speaker 1 (02:11:21):
Year already that that is a guarantee. They are five
and four right now. C. J. Stroud finishes the game
twenty three of thirty nine, three hundred and fifty six yards,
one touchdown, one pick.

Speaker 2 (02:11:31):
He also ran for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
How about Devin Singletary thirty carries, one hundred and fifty four,
one hundred and fifty yards rushing and a score. Joe
Burr ended up with three hundred and forty seven yards,
two touchdowns, but also two costly interceptions. So the Bengals,
seemingly back on track, end up losing at home to
the Houston Texans Real thirty to twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
Okay, So after the interception return for a touchdown by
the Cleveland Browns on the second play from scrimmage for
Lamar Jackson in the Baltimore offense, the missed extra point
after that touchdown leaves to score thirty one to thirty.
Baltimore goes back on the field after Cleveland kicks off.

(02:12:16):
They go six plays in out have to punt after
only gaining sixteen yards. So it's Cleveland ball again, and
they do this steady ready for this. Deshaun Watson, after
going six for twenty passing in the first half, is
thirteen for thirteen in the second half. He is heating up.
Just converted on a short pass to Ford on third
and one and he sacked on first and the ball loose?

(02:12:39):
Did they recover it by Cleveland?

Speaker 10 (02:12:41):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:12:42):
Holy smill?

Speaker 3 (02:12:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:12:43):
After a six for twenty first half, Deshaun Watson is
thirteen for thirteen passing in the second half, Okay, which
is why Cleveland's back in this game.

Speaker 2 (02:12:51):
So that was Queen right defensive end for the or
left defense end for the Baltimore Ravens was able to
sack to Shawn from the blind side stripsack, but Teller,
offensive tackle for the for the Cleveland Browns was able
to dive on it. So they trailed by one thirty
one to thirty ball game in Baltimore. And like you said,
Deshaun is playing some good football here.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
He playing really good football. Right now they're trying to
get into field goal position.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
And that is a completed pass.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
He's now a fourteen for fourteen in the second half.

Speaker 2 (02:13:21):
Also, two minutes to go. The clock is taking toward
the two minute warning thirty nine yard line.

Speaker 1 (02:13:25):
Yeah, Browns have two timeouts remaining right now, and again
they're down one. So what they're trying to do is
get in the field goal position to steal this game.
You got in this game you thought was over, oh yeah,
dead thirty one seventeen and then that pick six just
change everything. By the way, the Lions end up with

(02:13:46):
a field goal on their opening drive against the Chargers.
So three nothing Detroit early in that game out at
a SOFI stadium. All right, So two minute warning right now,
Browns with the ball. They have a third and two
at their own thirty nine yard hard line. Mentioned, they
still have a couple of timeouts remaining. Meanwhile, the Saints

(02:14:06):
still have them all they're at midfield right now. Actually
got a first down at the Minnesota forty six yard line.
They were down twenty seven to three, and Jameis Winston
came into this game, led a couple of touchdown drives,
a couple of two point conversions.

Speaker 2 (02:14:22):
They're down eight. All right, let's take a minute warning.
Holy smokes, I think we could take a break here,
all right, dudes, and finishes.

Speaker 1 (02:14:29):
All right, Well, much more coming up. Stay with us
exciting finishes around the NFL every week. This is Fox
Sports Red Zone Radio.

Speaker 3 (02:14:35):
Wow, thirty eight yard field goal of tep from the
left hash mark for the victory for matt Amandola. Here's
the snap, here's the spot, here's the kick.

Speaker 2 (02:14:45):
Plenty of leg.

Speaker 5 (02:14:46):
And it's good.

Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
The tux Sans walk off with a win Cincinnati. They
take a thirty to twenty seven Madamntola at the buzzer.

Speaker 1 (02:14:59):
That's XENS Radio Network. Unbelievable win today on the road
against the Cincinnati Bengals, led by their superstar rookie c J.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
Stroud. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

Speaker 1 (02:15:11):
Steve Harbin Rich Ornberger with you live from the Tirack
dot Com studios. All right, we got a field goal
attempt coming up from the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (02:15:21):
And by the way, we were.

Speaker 1 (02:15:22):
Talking about just how bad Deshaun Watson was, and he
was atrocious to start. He was one for nine to
start this game. But in the second half he has
been the Deshaun Watson. They got that huge contract. Unbelievable, Like,
didn't throw an incomplete pass. Yeah, scrambled for a huge

(02:15:42):
first down breaking tackles, and so this comes down to
a field goal attempt. Hopkins, who missed the extra point,
gets a second chance three seconds left, almost the same
position he was for the extra point.

Speaker 2 (02:15:58):
Nearly the same spot of the feel. It's about forty one,
SOI and the kick is good.

Speaker 1 (02:16:04):
Good. The Cleveland Browns have won on the road against
the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 2 (02:16:11):
By the way, is there a greater kiss of death
in me?

Speaker 1 (02:16:14):
I proclaim that the Ravens are now way, we got
a flag on the play?

Speaker 2 (02:16:17):
What's the flag? We got a flag on the play.
Depending on who this is against, we have a very
different outcome potentially.

Speaker 1 (02:16:25):
So that's clapping on they're clapping on this sideline.

Speaker 2 (02:16:28):
They're not this be off sides by the Baltimore Ravens
penalty decline. It is todd Yeah, that's good. That is it?

Speaker 1 (02:16:36):
So the Cleveland Browns, as soon as I proclaim the
Ravens are right now the best team in the National
Football League. They had a set fourteen point lead in
this game, seemingly in control a Ravens offense that showed nothing,
I mean nothing in the first half, and Deshaun Watson

(02:17:00):
in the second half goes fourteen for fourteen.

Speaker 2 (02:17:05):
He was sensational in the second for fourteen in the
second half, final for two to six of.

Speaker 1 (02:17:11):
Twenty in the first half, fourteen for fourteen of the
second half.

Speaker 2 (02:17:14):
I mean a huge turnaround, unlievable, huge turnaround. Also, by
the way, made some huge plays on the ground. He
had that sixteen yard scramble to save the drive to
set up Dustin Hopkins. There so another example of a
special talent having a special day. However, since he's arrived

(02:17:34):
in Cleveland, it has not looked special. In fact, this
is the first time to my memory that Deshaun Watson
has really taken over any half of play since becoming
a Brown and it was timely. They needed this win
in division against a North rival, the Baltimore Ravens, especially
on the road. They advanced to five and three on

(02:17:55):
the season.

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
All right, we have another final. The Saints comeback falls short.
The Minnesota Vikings moved to six and four on the season,
defeating the Saints twenty seven to nineteen. Joshua Dobbs does
it again, twenty three of thirty four, two hundred and
sixty eight yards, one touchdown, no pick. He ran for
forty four yards and a score. Anyone that thought the

(02:18:16):
Vikings season was over after the blowing Achilles at Kirk
Cousins think again. They got a quarterback. He's good enough.
Vikings have a lot of you know, positives.

Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
Hockinson, by the way, I'm glad you know Sam over
here is Iowa guy eleven catches one hundred and thirty
four yards on the score.

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
I guess so you find out what his name was? Yeah, yeah,
Kittle and Hockinson? Yeah, I mean Sam can't even stand up, right, Yeah,
you shouldn't stand up.

Speaker 1 (02:18:43):
Please, you're too excited. But anyway, so the Vikings get
to six and four. I'm trying to unravel right now.
The standings around the National Football League was in who's
out this? And and I know you do? You know
you're gambling shows and everything else. I don't know how
you guys did mean. Seriously, there's no rhyme or reason.
There's no way that Cleveland, with both their starting offensive

(02:19:07):
tackles and a seemingly subpart Deshaun Watson goes into Baltimore
and wins like that is not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:19:15):
The NFL, typically the bastion of parody in professional sports
in our country. In no season has ever exemplified more
parody than this season. Anybody can win the Super Bowl
this year in my opinion. Now I don't mean anybody,
but like it. Look the Chiefs look mortal. The Philadelphia Eagles,

(02:19:37):
even with all their wins, look mortal. You have a
constant shifting of the bottom of the playoff picture in
both of these conferences. Nobody in the NFC really particularly
looks to even match the Philadelphia Eagles, and frankly, the
Philadelphia Eagles don't even feel like the Philadelphia Eagles from
a year ago. This is anybody's league this year. All right?

Speaker 1 (02:20:01):
Here is an update to the moment in the AFC playoffs.

Speaker 6 (02:20:05):
Oh ready for this?

Speaker 2 (02:20:06):
Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:20:07):
So the top four seeds are the division leaders. So
the one seed is the Chiefs, two seed is the Ravens,
three seed is the Jaguars, four seed is the Dolphins,
the three wild cards in the moment, Steelers, Browns, Texans.
Texans won a tiebreak against the Bengals and the Bills.

(02:20:29):
I love it so right now in the moment, the
Houston Texans.

Speaker 2 (02:20:35):
Are a playoff teams. Yeah, yeah, I saw the Steelers.
I thought I would be vehemently opposed to expanding the
season by a game. I thought it would be vehemently opposed,
and I was when this first was announced to expand
the playoff bracket by two more teams and welcome in
seven each conference as opposed to six and having two

(02:20:56):
teams with buys to start the postseason. And I was wrong.
I was wrong. One team on a by each conference
to start the postseason. Oh my goodness, the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
That is a be stepped out.

Speaker 6 (02:21:12):
Oh it's it okay.

Speaker 2 (02:21:13):
So the line was that Gibbs who got in? Oh
my gosh, or.

Speaker 1 (02:21:17):
This has been very nearly The Chargers give up more
big plays just about ad It's.

Speaker 2 (02:21:23):
A lot of explosive plays.

Speaker 1 (02:21:25):
Huge plays. So they have a first and goal right now.
The Lions, by the way, the Vikings are now comfortably
in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:21:33):
I mean, you might want to challenge this. Maybe it
was out at the half yard line, but Jamiir Gibbs
has woken up for this Detroit Lions team, and he's
been looking really good past couple of weeks and adding
to it here with that huge run from scrimmage for
Detroit against the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (02:21:49):
Games's definitely out before he scored. So the balls at
the one yard line right now, Lions looking to take
the lead. Ty score right now with the Chargers and
a walk in touchdown.

Speaker 2 (02:22:00):
Yeah, Gibbs to the left side. It was just a
little running back truck play. You had a big tackle
pull out to the short alley, gets a kickout block,
Gibbs follows his big fella in for the score. So
it's a nine to three ball game right now. But
but yeah, man, the Houston Texans just to get back
to this playoff picture. The fact that they're in and

(02:22:20):
the fact that we have competitive football with a ton
of parody with an expanded regular season and more teams
in the playoff only makes this league more fun to
watch them.

Speaker 1 (02:22:31):
Just wait till they have a twenty five game regular season.

Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
It's coming. It's coming.

Speaker 1 (02:22:35):
It's gonna be huge money. It's gonna start in July,
and it's gonna go all the way. Yeah, all right,
let's find out what is trending right now. Again, if
you listen to her national show, you should not be
surprised by the Lions leading this game against the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
Yeah, you pick the Lions. I did. Despite her allegiance
to the charge.

Speaker 10 (02:22:53):
Well, you know, sometimes you have to think logically not emotionally,
even though I'm a very emotional person.

Speaker 1 (02:22:59):
Right, I mean, you're catering to everybody, right when you're
doing professional show.

Speaker 10 (02:23:03):
Yes, you know, I also did pick the Bengals, so clearly,
like you said, nothing makes sense, nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:23:10):
Makes lose a home to the Texans and the Ravens
lose at home to the brush.

Speaker 10 (02:23:16):
And in just weird ways, you know, like unbelievable, the
Lions scored and also the Commander scores. Sam Howell found
Brian Robinson Junior for a touchdown. They missed the extra point.
But the Commanders are up on the Seahawks early six zero.
Giants and the Cowboys were expecting a blowout.

Speaker 5 (02:23:34):
Guys, but knowing what's happened today, maybe the Giants pull
this off.

Speaker 10 (02:23:38):
This just got going. They are scoreless. How about Kyler
Murray back from almost what three hundred and something days
after getting injured. He is six of twelve for sixty
four yards so far. The Cardinals up on the Falcons
three zero late in.

Speaker 5 (02:23:52):
The first quarter.

Speaker 10 (02:23:53):
But yes, the Texans they beat the Bengals thirty to
twenty seven. Texans had in one more than five games
since twenty nineteen. They just won their fifth game.

Speaker 5 (02:24:03):
CJ.

Speaker 10 (02:24:03):
Stroud ended with three hundred and fifty six yards and
a touchdown in the air. He only had one interception.
He also had a rushing touchdown. The Vikings defeated the
Saints twenty seven to nineteen. Danil Hunter who sacked or
hit mister Derek Carr and he ended up leaving the game.

Speaker 5 (02:24:19):
Jameis Winston came.

Speaker 10 (02:24:20):
In while he recorded his eleventh sack of the season
that earned him a one million doller incentive.

Speaker 5 (02:24:26):
He leads the NFL in sacks.

Speaker 10 (02:24:28):
Joshua Dobbs ended with two hundred and sixty eight yards
in the air, one touchdown and one rushing touchdown.

Speaker 5 (02:24:34):
No picks.

Speaker 10 (02:24:35):
I don't know how, but the Steelers held on to
be the Packers twenty three to nineteen. Jordan Love did
throw an interception with three seconds left in the game.
The Buccaneers defeated the Titans twenty to six. The forty
nine Ers crushed the Jags thirty four to three. The
forty nine Ers did everything they could to get Christian
McCaffrey in the end zone at the.

Speaker 5 (02:24:55):
End of that game.

Speaker 10 (02:24:57):
It wasn't even they weren't even trying anymore. Brock perty
is out of the game. There are straight plays.

Speaker 5 (02:25:01):
They gave him the ball and he couldn't get in
the end. So the streak is over at seventeen. If
you would have by the way, it would have worked in.

Speaker 10 (02:25:08):
The record, the record it broke the he's tied right
now with seventeen. It would have broken the record with eighteen,
which is why they've tried so hard. But the Jags
knew exactly what they were doing, so wherever he stood,
they just all shifted. There he is, they all shifted.

Speaker 5 (02:25:22):
It was four in a row, no joke. He couldn't
get in.

Speaker 7 (02:25:25):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (02:25:26):
And as you mentioned the Browns, they came back to
beat the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (02:25:29):
Thirty three to thirty one. It's just was funny, you know,
it ended.

Speaker 10 (02:25:32):
It started with the Ravens pick six and it kind
of ended with the Browns pick six again.

Speaker 1 (02:25:38):
Deshaun Watson tail of two halves twenty in the first half,
fourteen for fourteen in the second half.

Speaker 10 (02:25:44):
Yeah, ended with two hundred and thirteen yards, one touchdown
in one interception.

Speaker 2 (02:25:47):
Yeah, get that guy beside.

Speaker 1 (02:25:49):
I mean, there was a lot of work he did
look a little banged up, so he has a lot
of options.

Speaker 2 (02:25:57):
Well maybe that you know what. On second though, I
just remember bad idea, bad idea. Yeah, okay, sorry, gang,
all right.

Speaker 1 (02:26:05):
Well, great stuff as always FROMONCI.

Speaker 2 (02:26:10):
We appreciate it, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:26:12):
So the Cowboys right now have a first and goal
at the Giants four yard line. We had Tom and
Aldi to preview this game. We weren't even trying to
pretend to make it a game. Cowboys coming in seventeen
and a half point favorites. You don't see that kind
of number very often in the NFL. Seventeen and a
half point favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:26:33):
Although I will say this right now, scoreless the two
win Giants, they're holding, they're holding firm.

Speaker 1 (02:26:41):
Well, they're trying Tommy DeVito at quarterback for the Giants.
How about the Commanders, Hey, another miss extra point? We've
been talking about how few miss extra points we've had
this year. Commanders score to take the six to nothing lead,
miss extra point?

Speaker 2 (02:26:55):
Well, listen, it's laying the season. The balls are getting
hard out there, yes, temperatures dropping makes the kicking game
a little bit more difficult. The wind is a whipping
around the northeast of this great coun justin Herbert just
throw an interception. Yes, it appears he did. Now, yeah
he is look at that yep, yep, yeah that's in. Yep.

(02:27:17):
The leg is down. So so a.

Speaker 1 (02:27:20):
Pick for Herbert seemed to be a miscommunication there and
the Lions, already leading that game ten to three, now
have the ball back at the Chargers thirty four yard
line really quick.

Speaker 2 (02:27:34):
Again, just for anybody who missed it, if the season
ended right now after that early slate of games, Chiefs, Rais, Vins, Jaguars, Dolphins, Steelers, Browns,
Texans in.

Speaker 6 (02:27:45):
Yes, on the.

Speaker 1 (02:27:46):
Other side, the Browns are in, Texans are in, Steelers
are in. Bills are not right, Bill's not out, Bengals
not out. So Bengals Bills. Okay, go into the season
as two of the prohibitive favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:27:58):
You know, it's like that triumphant, you know, Chiefs, Bengals, Bills.

Speaker 1 (02:28:02):
Right, those three, and two of those three in the
moment are not in the top seven.

Speaker 2 (02:28:09):
NFC Eagles, Lions, Niners, Saint Seahawks, Cowboys, Vikings.

Speaker 1 (02:28:14):
Yeah, Vikings with Joshua Dobs a quarterback, Vikings in, Vikings
in who is your league MVP?

Speaker 2 (02:28:21):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (02:28:22):
If you had to vote, I mean league MVP, it's
got to be CJ. Shroud, I mean, first of all. Okay,
so no other team has benefited from having their quarterback
more than the Houston Texas. He is more valuable to
his team than any other quarterback.

Speaker 12 (02:28:39):
In the league.

Speaker 2 (02:28:40):
And that's if we're following the criteria and both by
the valuable player. And it's not like we're giving it
to him because he's been a great game manager. He
has single handedly, felt like, changed the fortunes of the
felt like it is, it's an accurate statement. He single
handedly changed the fortunes of a franchise that looked like
they were left for dead after last season.

Speaker 1 (02:29:02):
Well, hold on his second heart's let's check in with
our resident Eagles fan.

Speaker 6 (02:29:06):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (02:29:08):
So, you know the Eagles off this week.

Speaker 1 (02:29:12):
Do you believe Jalen Hurts is the most valuable player
this season in the NFL?

Speaker 6 (02:29:18):
Oh No, he had that terrible game against the Jets.
You can't. You can't have that bad of a game
and be the MVP. I'm sorry, So.

Speaker 2 (02:29:26):
Are you with us on this c J.

Speaker 1 (02:29:29):
Stroud hype for Most Valuable Player Rookie of the Year? Well,
who's more valuable?

Speaker 6 (02:29:36):
Now you're you're getting into the weeds with the value.

Speaker 2 (02:29:39):
Try again define value to me.

Speaker 6 (02:29:42):
Yeah, I mean it's all different interpretations, but we all
know it goes with the best player on the best team. Generally.

Speaker 1 (02:29:47):
Well, who's the best team in this league? That's what
I'm trying to figure out. If we have such parody
in this league that week to week, I thought the
Ravens and Lamar Jackson would probably have been my choice
going into this week as most valuable player and he
gots badly out played in the second out by Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 6 (02:30:06):
I mean, if you're gonna do best player, best team,
then I think you might have a wide receiver in
AJ Brown.

Speaker 1 (02:30:11):
AJ Brown's put up a lot, but you know that's
the offensive and defensive Player of the Year awards.

Speaker 6 (02:30:16):
I also have to admit I was a little distracted
by the Cowboys getting stood up on fourth and goal
by the New York Giants.

Speaker 2 (02:30:22):
I mean that's the Tommy DeVito. Yeah, I mean, you
can't teach that is he calling the plays on defense
as well. I think he might.

Speaker 6 (02:30:29):
Actually maybe his mom is calling the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:30:33):
She makes a mean chicken.

Speaker 1 (02:30:34):
Honestly, did you know Tommy Devita was in a defensive tackle.

Speaker 2 (02:30:38):
He jumped in there. Oh stop, yeah, to do the
stop no stop it Now, that's just that's mythology. That
all right.

Speaker 1 (02:30:44):
So the Cowboys end up with nothing on their opening
drive with Dak Presk got four or five forty six yards.

Speaker 2 (02:30:50):
Now the Giants will take over. I'll be damned. He
made all four tackles on that goal line. Stand by
the is literally a one man team.

Speaker 1 (02:30:59):
The Falcons trailing the Cardinals three to nothing. The return
of Kyler Murray right again. I was in Arizona this
past week and they were I happened to be listening
to the Cardinals show.

Speaker 2 (02:31:13):
Can I ask a question? Yeah, like like, what was
the parade like for Kyler coming back? Not much? No
no oh.

Speaker 1 (02:31:22):
And when they were asked like what do you expect
from Kyler Murray, they really didn't have an answer, like,
we don't know what we're going to see. He's been
out for an extended time. He had a serious injury.
He's been nursing it. By the last couple of weeks. Remember,
we kept saying, this is the week, this is the week,
this is the week. Finally, this is the week. So

(02:31:44):
we don't know. And then, of course the question is
if Arizona has the number one pick in the draft,
which is a real possibility predicted before the season, do
they say bye bye to Kyler Murray.

Speaker 2 (02:31:55):
I mean, I don't even really understand. Here's what I
would do if I were the Arizona Cardinals from a
franchise standpoint. From a franchise standpoint, do what the Raiders
did with Derek Carr last year. Give him a couple
of starts, and assuming he looks good healthy, you know,
check a box for NFL teams that are interested in
trading for him, bench him the rest of the year. Okay,

(02:32:19):
so you have Colt McCoy take every single one of
your first team snaps as you're starting quarterback in the preseason.
You cut him days before the start of the season.
Josh Dobbs comes in and plays way over anybody's expectations
and actually gets a win against the Dallas Cowboys. And
I'm not saying keeps the wheels on because Arizona Cardinals

(02:32:39):
are a one win team, but looked good. They trade
him away at the deadline on Halloween. Okay, Kyler Murray
comes back and you're gonna start him the rest of
the year. This makes no sense. What if he gets
hurt again. If you were really trying to tank for
Caleb Williams or one of these other starting quarterbacks at
the college level who's coming out this year, and there's

(02:33:00):
plenty of talent coming out this year. If Caleb does
want to come to the Desert, fine, you'll be able
to find someone else. Why on earth would you start
Kylie of the rest of the season. Give them two
games so the NFL the rest of the GMS can
check that box he's healthy, and then bench him the
rest of the year, like the Raiders did to Derek
Card the final two or three weeks of the season
last year.

Speaker 1 (02:33:19):
By the way, the Lions had a third and six
at the twenty yard line of the Chargers, and they
ran the ball and they got five yards. Okay, so
now they have a fourth and one at the Chargers
thirteen yard line, already leading this game by a score

(02:33:40):
of ten to three.

Speaker 2 (02:33:41):
That was a curious call. Yeah, five yard game by
David Montgomery. Third and six, they're gonna go for it
on fourth and one.

Speaker 1 (02:33:48):
I'm not why are you going for it this early
in the game. They're gonna run widow and they're got
the first down barely, but they got the first down,
all right, So no flags on the play.

Speaker 2 (02:33:58):
Amon Ross Saint Brown by the way on the carry there,
and you're right, yeah, that was that was an interesting
third down call. And I mean, I understand the fourth
down call. It was a good play and they outleveraged
the Chargers defense. But a strange, strange concept there. Down
in the red zone.

Speaker 1 (02:34:15):
Taylor Heineke is just throwing a touchdown pass to give
the Falcons a seven to three lead over the Arizona Cardinals.
We're coming down the stretch for our show. We got
still a lot of NFL action going on. This is
Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Here come the Lions now,
first and goal from the two. They give it to kids.

Speaker 5 (02:34:32):
Into the end zone.

Speaker 1 (02:34:33):
Such down Detroit Lions with big Jonah Jackson back and
leading the way over the left side. That's ninety seven
to one the Ticket Lions or Radio Network Lions with
a ten to three lead right now over the Chargers.
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thank the crew today. Of course, See doing a phenomenal

(02:35:18):
job with her bold prediction of the Lions winning today.

Speaker 5 (02:35:22):
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Speaker 1 (02:35:25):
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Today Bo has the week off with his Eagles on
a bye this week.

Speaker 2 (02:35:33):
Yeah, yeah, so he took the day off here.

Speaker 1 (02:35:36):
He did well, he's been He's been hanging out with
our dear friend.

Speaker 6 (02:35:41):
I had just been the day with Sam.

Speaker 2 (02:35:43):
That's Iowa. Sam made his triumphant return today. Same. How
long has it been a couple of months? Okay, all right,
well i'll tell you what the share. It's only been
a couple of months. Yeah, early September and you haven't
shaved or cut your That's correct. You look like Tom
hangs on Cassaway. It's happening in real time. But you

(02:36:03):
do have a great, Tam, thank you. Yeah, and I've
gotten very good at spear fishings.

Speaker 1 (02:36:08):
Yes, well, Sam. This craziness around the National Football League
insane craziness.

Speaker 2 (02:36:16):
I mean, is it is?

Speaker 1 (02:36:18):
It never fails for you to say, what is the
most unlikely scenario of all the games this week? Like
give me, give me a game, like there's no way
that team is going to beat that team.

Speaker 2 (02:36:33):
I mean to me, the Browns.

Speaker 1 (02:36:35):
Winning at Baltimore today without both of their starting offensive tackles,
with Deshaun Watson going six of twenty in the first half. Yeah,
and then he goes fourteen for fourteen the second half
and they come from behind a win.

Speaker 2 (02:36:48):
If you gave me the first half statistics, I would
have agreed with you, But just you know, on its
face this season, I disagree to a point because it
is Baltimore. It just feels like there's more already in
this league than there ever has been.

Speaker 1 (02:37:02):
So what was more unlikely Cleveland's win at Baltimore or
Houston's win at Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (02:37:08):
Well, definitely Cleveland's win at Baltimore because I have a
lot of faith in CJ. Stroud, I just really do.
I said it before these games kicked off. I said
it to you. I was like, look, I think very
easily the Houston Texans can beat Cincinnati. And at one
point they had a ten point lead in the fourth quarter,
they gave it all back after this shrowd interception. But

(02:37:31):
my goodness, to have the intestinal fortitude to drive the
field and set up your kicker, brand new kicker by
the way, who really rose to the moment there and
knocked it through for Houston to advance a five win season,
an unlikely five win season, mind you. Really incredible win,
but still I mean believable. So yeah, I guess in

(02:37:51):
that early slate, Cleveland getting the win on the road
in Baltimore probably be the most unlikely.

Speaker 1 (02:37:56):
Now, the most unlikely scenario would be the game being
going on right now between the Giants and the Cowboys.
Giants seventeen and a half point underdogs. Tommy DeVito at quarterback,
and he is perfect so far, one for one four yards. Well,
say Kwon Barkley has four carries for negative two yards.
That means the Giants have two total yards and they're

(02:38:17):
tied with the Cowboy.

Speaker 2 (02:38:19):
Well, if I if I said it once during this broadcast,
I'll say it. I'll say it a million more times
today it's it's the Tommy DeVito game. Yeah, like this
is the one, This is the one that will look
as his storied in historica franchises, the New York Football Giants.
I think this is one of those games we'll all, well,
we'll turn back the clock maybe a decade or two

(02:38:42):
from now and say, remember when Tommy DeVito first stepped
on the field as a starter in New York.

Speaker 1 (02:38:48):
Tommy DeVito, by the way, played six years of college. Well, yeah,
five at Syracy is one of Illinois. It's doctor DeVito.
You and twenty five year old rookie. Right, we get
a lot of these twenty five year old rookies now.

Speaker 2 (02:39:00):
Well now with COVID. So I'm calling games at the
college football level. I was on a broadcast in Fort Collins,
Colorado last night. I was calling the Colorado State our
San Diego State game, and I can tell you there's
a lot of six year and in certain cases seven
year players on a good amount of these rosters. As
a result of the extra year some of these players got.

Speaker 1 (02:39:21):
Yeah, they took over for twenty twenty lee interesting moving forward,
I mean, you talk about just the changing landscape of
college football.

Speaker 2 (02:39:29):
It's mind boggley.

Speaker 1 (02:39:30):
Yeah, you know, we haven't we really talked about the
Harboy situation. But honestly, if I were in Michigan right now,
I would say we're leaving the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (02:39:37):
I would join the NFL if I were Michigan.

Speaker 1 (02:39:39):
I mean they might be able to. I'm on the
barn with the ACC, the SEC, the Big twelve. Maybe
not the Pac twelve, but yeah, I'm saying, hey, they
don't want us here.

Speaker 2 (02:39:49):
You say not the Pac twelve, you don't want to
join Oregon State and Wazoo.

Speaker 1 (02:39:53):
Well you might dominate that conference, no question about that.
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