Chris Plank and Kerry Rhodes Put a Bow on Week 13 of the NFL Season!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome in on a Fox Football Sunday Arnie Spaniards out
carry rhodes Is And it's been too long, man, how's
it rolling Carry?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I know, Chris, it's been it's been a long time.
But I'm back.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm back in the fold and uh it's a little
late for me, but I'm ready to roll baby.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Man.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
What a what a wild set of topics we have
to get into. We're watching Sunday Night Football and Patrick
Mahomes made a very non Patrick Mahomes type throw that
led to a turnover h and just just past the
outstretched arms of sky Moore, and green Bay is on

(00:42):
the verge of getting a massive win in the continued
maturation and development of Jordan Love. So get an update
on the time. I'm getting all these dramatic slow motion
replays of them putting the jacket on Patrick Mahomes. I've
got four forty four to go in the game. Twenty
four were nineteen. Green Bay has the lead, and Carrie
would like to start with the recap of what we've

(01:04):
been watching.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
So I don't know about you.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I've I've been impressed with shortan Love got a little
lucky on the fourth and one play that he heaved
and led to a touchdown. But Green Bay has been
really good with him over the last few weeks. Yeah,
Jordan Love is starting to, you know, come into his
own here. And you can tell he has commanded the
offense that have a little bit more faith in him
getting them, getting the team into the right play and
making the right check. So you know, that's that's that's

(01:28):
the tailtale sign when you start to feel comfortable about
your your your your your rocket man back there, the
guy that's supposed to get you in all the best plays,
he's seemingly doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
He's not afraid. He's making all the passes, and man,
he looks really good. I mean, green Bay has a
chance to if they win tonight, to get to get
into serious playoff consideration, and then it's from here.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
You never know what can happen. They could be six
and six, yeah, hold out again.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, I'm a fan of the Raiders, so I've lived
many of times whenever we've left Kansas City for dead
and the next thing you know, you look up and
they've won a football game. But tonight, Jordan Love's numbers
twenty four, thirty five, two fifty seven, three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
They've they've run the ball a little bit better, AJJ.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Dillon a little bit better, and listen, I mean Kansas City.
I feel like they've been able to move the ball
almost at will tonight, but mistakes. Mahomes has been sacked
three times here this evening. It's been a little bit
non Chiefs like in some of their execution. And now
Green Bay is just trying to do what they can

(02:37):
to ice this game. And you're right, Carrie, green Bay
gets to win here. I don't know if you're gonna
catch the Detroit Lion. So the line stumbled and stammered
there for a little bit, and even when Derek Carr
went down, it almost looked like they might be in
trouble after that big lead over New Orleans today. So
I don't think you're going to make up the three
games between yourself and the Lions. But you definitely if

(02:58):
you hold on here, you put your off in position
for wild card conversation.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, if they hold on here, they're gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
They win this game.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
They have the Giants, the Buccaneers, the Panthers, the Vikings
and the Bears.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I like their chances.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
So again they found something here with Jordan Love and
you can tell that he's definitely learned while he's been
the backup there behind Aaron Rodgers. Just some of the throws,
some of the arm angles, some of the footwork stuff
that he does. He looks a lot like him, and
it's just he's calm man. And talking about Kansas City.
Kansas City is not the same team and they're not

(03:32):
the same offense. And usually I mean at the at
the point where we are right now, they're eight and three.
They've been winning with defense and running the ball, and
this is not your Kansas the chiefs of Bowls, so
they're vulnerable. And you know how it is in lambeau Field,
and this time in December, magical things tend to happen.
And right now, you know, Green Bay can finish this

(03:52):
off and get a good win.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Here's here's my question for you tonight, Carrie, and I'd
love for you all to get involved Twitter or x
whatever you call at at Plank Show and you can
follow Carrie.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I had a dig man.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I hadn't seen you tweet in a while, so I
was doing a little work to make sure that I
found the proper Twitter handle. It's at Carrie twenty five
Roads if you want to jump in or just you know,
reply to tweet that throughout there for the show, who
should be more concerned or maybe more specifically, who are
you more worried about? Going forward? I want to wait
until Kansas City loses, but they're not the same team

(04:26):
right now, and unless they play the Raiders, then they're amazing.
But are you more worried about Kansas City? Or are
we more worried about Philadelphia? And let's dive into that
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point throughout this season, everyone's had a Oh, it's just
Philly and likely Kansas City because I'll still probably have
home field advantage and the road of the Super Bowl
will go through Kansas City like it seemingly always does.
But with loss tonight, obviously, if Green Bay holds on here,
that's another stub to tow. But the piece of evidence

(05:09):
we do have is Philadelphia getting absolutely boat raced, yes
by San Francisco tonight. What'd you make of that? And
where should the concern level be right now for Eagles fans? Well,
there's a big concern level here.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean, I know their record is ten and two,
and I know they've found ways to win, but they
haven't been impressive of all year to me. I mean,
they've done enough to win and you can't discredit that,
but you can also say, you know, we saw this
last year right with the Vikings, right where they won
all those close games, those one score games, and you know,
at the the end of the season they're thirteen and

(05:42):
four or whatever the record ended up being, and it
looks impressive. But they get into the first round, the
first round of the division round, and lose. And that's
kind of the vibe I'm getting with Philly.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I know that they're way more talented than the Vikings
were as a whole, but you know they're injured, things
aren't as easy and they don't look as dominant. So
I'm more concerned with with with Philly at the moment.
I mean, I could you can go either way here.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
But Philly is one of those teams where you luck
has the runout at some point, and we saw that
tonight with San Francisco. San Francisco showed them. I think
that they are the best team in the NFC, and
and you know, yeah, I have my doubts about Philly. Yeah,
it's it's wild. I was listening to to Mark and
Kyle a little bit earlier. Yeah, and Kyle did kind

(06:28):
of body Mark on his Minnesota Vikings comparison.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
But I think I think the point is well taken.
We're not trying to say, well, it's pretty obvious. Jalen
Hurts is just you know, Kirk cousin them in Minnesota's
got some players.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
The point is just in the way that they look
right ecstatically, And there's been a few games where they've
looked like the old Philadelphia Eagles. They've looked like the
team that is the team to beat in their path
to the Super Bowl. And they smoked Miami thirty one seventeen.
They looked good beating kids the city. Even though it
wasn't ugly, ugly game. They found a way to win late.

(07:04):
But it's just that's it, finding a way to win
late against Kansas City, but then also barely squeaking by Washington.
You know, before the Rams got hot, they were scuffling
with them. I'm not here to suddenly say this guy
is falling in Philadelphia, but Carrie, there's some legit concerns
that this fan base should have going forward.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, I'm picking them to lose next week, and it'd
be a tie in AIGHTFC East with Dallas. So, I mean,
you know, they got through the gauntlet, you know, and
the gauntlet is you know, obviously the names of the teams,
but if you really look closely at those teams, I mean, Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Is not the same.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I mean, it's a big win obviously, but you know
they're losing that game, and they get some favorable calls
in that game where you know that game could have
gone either way. They come into a situation they lost
to the Jets early in the season, which is looking
like a terrible loss at the moment, and then you know,
now they come out here, dropped the ball down the
field early. Instead of getting touchdowns, they have to end

(07:57):
up kicking field goals and once that happen, and you know,
a good team like San Francisco if you let them
hang around and get their footing, they're gonna put up points.
And so yeah, there's there's some concern. And you know,
Jalen's not even you know, he's been playing well and
he's playing at the MVP level, I guess at the
end of the day, but he's still not him. He's
not as explosive as he's been in the last couple

(08:18):
of years. He's dealing with some injuries, and so yeah,
they're just a little bit off there.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
By the way, speaking of injuries, we just saw Christian
Watson crumble to the ground for Green Bay after he
picked up a first down. He went down right away.
Didn't look good. It looks like maybe a hammy. Yeah,
but he was able to walk to the injury tent.
And he's speaking of injuries. Back to the actual topic
at him here Philadelphia. I know, I covered Oklahoma. I cover,

(08:44):
that's that's my job, that's my nine to five. I
covered as soon as I cover college football gets to
the playoffs in a bit, and whenever he was at
Ou in twenty nineteen, you saw that leadership. Now, I
gotta be honest with you, I never thought this was
a possibility. I kind of thought that maybe he'll be
a situationational guy. But he's worked on everything and he's
relentless in his quest for excellent.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
As corny as that sounds. Yeah, but he looks hurt.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean, I know there's reports about things that
he's dealing with. I'm telling you right now that dude
looks hurt, and I don't know if it might take.
You know, sometimes maybe you get a couple weeks off.
I remember he had the shoulder last year and they
gave him a few weeks off and he was fine
for the playoffs. But in what I'm seeing, Carrie, I'm
not seeing a guy that's out there at one hundred
percent right now. And unfortunately for Philly, there's not a

(09:30):
bye week coming up. Back to back weeks against pretty
good defenses. Right even though Seattle and Dallas put on
an offensive show on Thursday Night football, they go to
Dallas for Sunday Night next week, and then they go
to Seattle for Monday Night football the following week.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
You know, you're pretty safe in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I don't know, you don't want to start playing that game,
but I just I feel like they needed He's got
to take a week off or do something.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
He looks hurt to me right now. Yeah, I don't
even think a week's gonna help. I think there's this
is just me speculating. It's definitely something that's actually wrong.
It looks like it, Yeah, it's not. I don't think
it's one of those like he just needs a break
a one week. I don't think that's gonna help him.
But you know, he got he's gonna tough it out,
and you can and you can tell that he and

(10:12):
we all know we can see it from just from
the outside looking in that he's the heart and soul
of that team. So even today leaving the field for
a little bit, possibly being in concussion protocol, but you
no checking for that, he comes back in the game
and right after coming back in, he takes him right
down the field and they score a touchdown. So, I mean,
he's so valuable, But I just I just don't see
that team.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I don't see that.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
That factor with him, that that special nature that we
saw last year when I got in the run you
can kind of fit. You felt like the verve around
the team was really good. I don't it doesn't feel
that way right now.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, it doesn't now on the other side of it,
the other side of it, carry Rhodes.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Holy smoke.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
San Francisco has found something after the last few weeks.
It's almost as if either a doubting them or B
maybe that Deebo Samuel guy being out had something to
do with it, because this streak now that San Francisco
has gone on, has been a four game just absolute
dominating run. Tampa was a little bit tighter, but I
mean thirty four to three over a good Jacksonville team

(11:11):
in Jacksonville, twenty seven to fourteen over the Bucks thirty
one thirteen last week against Seattle in that final score
today forty two to nineteen. They get Seattle again. Next
week they go to Arizona. I mean, I'm starting to
think this team might end up locking up that one
seat in the road to the super Bowl might go
through Santa Clair. They look great today and it was
a grind early on funny story.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Had a kid event.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
My daughter had to play, so I promised my wife
I wouldn't get on my phone during it. A It's
at church, so I would feel terrible about it. Yeah,
So Kara is like, honey, I'm gonna pause this game
and I'm gonna watch it when I get back because
it was still very early. Yeah, And so we went
to the we went to play, did all the stuff. Well,
I got a couple text from people that are like,
you watch this is incredible. So I'm really excited to

(11:53):
get back. Right, I'm like, ooh, what's going on in
this game? Because San Francisco wasn't played all that well
early on, right, Yeah, So I was blown away whenever
I caught up. And by the way, in case you
didn't know it, you can watch a football game in
like thirty minutes without timeouts and without yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Trust me, I know Kerry Roads knows he lived it.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I'm just saying you could probably get a football game
through in about thirty minutes if you get through all
the fluff. But I found I found myself floored to
see the adversity that they overcame today. And not only
did they overcome it after a poor start, they absolutely
kicked Philly's teeth. And there's no defense today from Eagles fans.
There's nothing you can say. You got housed in your

(12:33):
own field, in your own stadium against a team that
you felt like you got the upper hand on. There's
been a lot of trash talk around it. Yeah and
lo and behold, they just put one on you tonight.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
San Francisco came in to prove a point. And and
we know that we've heard the talk. We've heard the chatter.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
You know, even after the playoff game, in the NFC
Championship game last year, they felt they were the better
team if their quarterback was healthy or they had any
quarterback that could throw the ball the end point last year,
right like, they knew that they felt that, and they
wanted to come in and prove that they did that.
I think from the outside looking in again, as fans

(13:13):
and as bystanders watching this game, you could tell that
they were the better team today. And now I think
we have to temper our emotions, our visual reactions to
what we just saw, because sometimes that happens during the season.
But if you look at these two teams right now,
you put them on the same field and you stack
them up player for player, these two teams, San Francisco

(13:36):
is the better team and they have the more dynamic player.
So it's going to be interesting to see if Philly
can even bounce back from this, because it's going to
be hard for.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Them Anders Carlson boots home a forty eight yard field
goal and with a minute nine left to go and
Sunday Night Football, the Packers have a twenty seven to
nineteen lead. We'll keep tabs on this as the show
rolls on tonight. But the question there it is who
are you more concerned about after today? Slash Tonight Philadelphia

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Speaker 2 (16:06):
All right, the stinking genius is out. Carrie Road is
hanging with us to recap week thirteen. The National Football
League got college talk coming up here in a bit,
but real quick, it's been wild, Carrie.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Steve de Seger has been all over it.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Did we just have Isaiah Pachecko get ejected from this
game today?

Speaker 4 (16:22):
It's correct.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
While it looked like a fumble was being returned by
Green Bay, he got into it with an opponent again
away from the play. And but Checko, who has over
one hundred yards rushing in a TV and a T
is off the TV now and off the file. It's
Casey down twenty seven to nineteen, final minute of tonight's game.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Casey has the ball down eight.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
They just missed a passing affairans call there at the
end to wow, oh my god, to tear it.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
And also a miss call on the sideline on this
drive where Mahomes was running for the first down marker
and was still in bounds and they called on necessary
roughness for the defensive.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Hit on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
The NFL reping has been really bad, but this is
just it's getting ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Now again they're down eight, so a field goal does
no good. But the Chiefs are down within the thirty
five yard line now final twenty seconds.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean, somehow, some way, I'll never understand it. The
Chiefs always have a dude that's like running wide open
down the middle of the field in these situations. I'll
never understand it. It will never ever make any sense
to me. But I mean, it even happened right there
with h was that bald Scantling or was that juju?
They got Scantleton's j Yeah, Judas not he's with Patriots.

(17:37):
Now what am I talking about?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, So as Baldas Scantling that ended up.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
You saw a very long hyphenated name on the backs.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Right, and I got shook, I got thrown.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Ooh.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
They got a break too with stopping the clock with
nineteen seconds left.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Incomplete in the end zone.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
You know what you mentioned, Chris, like I've seen this
from the Chiefs before.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
You know.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
In the stat is the Chiefs down fourteen to three
after last week beating the Raiders down fourteen to nothing
early and coming back, the only other time since the
merger over fifty years ago that the Chiefs have won
back to back games, down eleven in each game came
in two thousand and four, and one of those was
against the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Also, yeah, yes, I've lived it. I've lived it all.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
But we're watching the final seconds tick away here on
Sunday Night Football, and as is kind of typical of
this show, Carrie, I have to watch on an app.
So literally, my game's still in the first half while
you guys are watching the final fourteen seconds of it.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, timeout, defense, it looks like with thirteen seconds left.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
All right, twenty seven to nineteen twenty seven nineteen. We'll
let you know. Whenever everything goes final, the Packers would
thrust themselves right into a playoff spot the sixth yeah,
and the seventh seeds in the NFC are six and six, right, yeah,
and the Viking's got to worry about playing the Raiders
next week, so they're in big trouble. Meanwhile, the Chiefs,

(19:03):
after what was I don't know, kind of a chalky day.
I guess you could say in the AFC, well, Houston
beat Denver, but I mean, come on, now, look at
what Houston has become. Yeah, but now suddenly you look at,
you know, at Kansas City, and they won't have that
top spot in the AFC. That's gonna be Baltimore and Miami.
Oh yeah, and Miami. Thank goodness. Arnie's out tonight. Arnie,

(19:24):
who's a diehard Dolphins fan. He's a die hard Dolphins
than Oh well, I mean, I think he changes teams
every year. He has to.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
He has to.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
He can't be die hard. But he claims to have
been a Dolphins fantas whole life. The Dolphins win the
tiebreaker over Baltimore based on best win percentage in conference games. Now,
that's through twelve games, thirteen weeks, with five more weeks
to go in the season and four more games to
get four or five five more games to go in
the season for the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
The Ravens and the Chiefs have.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Not played the same number of conference.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Games Carrack, So that's why it's a little bit skewed
on that front.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
We'll see how it ends up playing out.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
But bottom line right now, if the Packers hold on
he's final fourteen seconds, the Chiefs will fall to eight
and four, and depending on what happens, you know with
the Jaguars, that might be the four seed.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, it's a long way Togo. It's a long way
to go. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, But Kansas City, like we talked about, man, they
are not the kaream of the crop at the moment.
But you know, you can never count them out with
fifteen back there, but yeah, I don't think they're as
feared for sure.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
He's thrown a couple incompletions, ma homes, So it's gonna
be fourth and ten five seconds left. Green Bay at
home leads twenty seven to nineteen. Keep in mind those
first two drives for Kansas City tonight. One went over
seven minutes, the other was over eight minutes long, and
they settled for field goals on both and they missed
a two point run tonight. Yeah, and they're down eight.

(20:44):
That's there's eight right there.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Like I said, numbers wise, statistically, like, oh okay, Kansas
City's they're doing pretty well tonight, but they just they
haven't been that same Kansas City.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
They're gonna throw deep on the final play with seemingly
eight defensive backs in the end zone. So tipped and incomplete.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And it's over, ballgame, ballgame. Congratulations to the Green Bay Packers.
They improved a six and six on the season with
a twenty seven to nineteen win over the Kansas City Chiefs.
How about that Kansas City falls to Green Bay. Suddenly
life is a little bit more crazy in the AFC

(21:27):
right now, right Disager's got a full recap coming up
here in just a bit with Carrie Rhodes. I'm Chris Plank,
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off so we can have more time after the Sager's
update to talk about the playoffs. I did want to
circle back to something we brought up earlier. Carrie and
we were talking about how good and how solid we've

(22:10):
seen Jordan Love become over the last four to five
weeks of the season.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
What have you seen?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
What have you seen in Jordan Love? You mentioned knowing
the system, knowing the checks they showed the shots of
farv and Aaron Rodgers and the way that he kind
of slings it. He's looking more Farvian and a a
ron Ish. But what have you seen in Jordan Love
over the last few weeks that's really helped him find
a little bit of another level.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
It's just it's confidence.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
You got a good time, You got to get opportunities,
opportunity to go out there in battle and have your
and have your mistakes and know that you're still the guy.
It takes that, It takes that sweat equity in games
to become confident. Right We've seen him in small doses.
We know he can throw the ball. We know he's
a really clean, pure passer of the ball. I mean,

(22:57):
he can make all the throws. But it's it's confidence,
because you know, if you feel like every mistake is magnified,
and you think that your a Leish's leash is short,
or any of those things happen and you're just you're
You're You're gonna play a little. You're gonna play not
to lose, play not to lose instead of playing to win.
Right now, he's playing to win. He's becoming a gun slinger.

(23:18):
He's becoming somebody that's confident in his abilities again. And
so that's what I've seen. That's what I've seen these
last couple of weeks. He's making all the throws, but
the confidence that he is, the confidence that he's stepping
up and throwing these balls, and even on the fourth
and one earlier, right just to the gumption to throw
that ball up when he threw it, I thought it
had no chance to be a completion. It falls in

(23:39):
the bread basket and it's a big play for them
and they go on the score. But that's what he's doing.
He's just making those plays look a little bit more routine.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, he's been really smooth. He's been really smooth.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
You go back, you know, five touchdowns including what diou
he finish with tonight. I had the final box score
right up here in front of me with two touchdowns
here this evening. So over the last three get three touchdowns, apologize,
So over his last three games wins over the Chargers,
the Lions, and now the Chiefs, that's eight touchdowns, zero interceptions.

(24:10):
I mean that's that's after a stretch where he when
they had lost four straight games to where he had
thrown seven interceptions. To just four touchdowns, so he's minimizing mistakes,
he's making plays. The Packers are right in the thick
of the NFC playoff. Chase, all right, let's get caught
up on everything else in the world of sports. You
heard him, you know you love and he's still here tonight.

(24:32):
That is Steve de Seger.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Can I just get Chris to the elephant in the room,
the fact that on the day they decide the BOWLD matchups,
Arnie Spanier.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Is not here.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
When his Arizona Wildcats, who he does not stop.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Talking about, even when they're terrible, on and on week
after week, he said, my Wildcats have been so good.
I don't want to play some chump team in a
ball game. I want to play over Who are the
playing Chris Plank in their bowl game?

Speaker 1 (25:02):
That'd be my Oklahoma Sooners.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
It is acts soda in the Alamo Bowl at the
end of the month.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
But I gave Arny the night off, so we.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Have a job.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
Creed maybe Kansas City twenty seven nineteen, we mentioned the
Hail Mary pass at the end that was incomplete. Well,
hail Mary, Yeah, it was thirty three yards away, but
incomplete in the end zone and tipped and fell incomplete,
but multiple replays did show Travis Kelcey in the end
zone absorbing a two hand shove in.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
The back with the ball in the air.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Yet again on Hail Mary's nothing gets called absolutely nothing.
Jordan Loved three touchdown passes, two to Christian Watson, who
left late in the game with an apparent hamstring injury.
Patrick Mahomes finished with one touchdown one interception. Isaiah Pacheco
was kicked out tonight. He had eighteen carries one hundred
and ten yards rushing at a score. Casey falls to

(25:56):
eight and four on the season. Green Bay is six
and six. San Francisco won its game at Philadelphia forty
two to nineteen.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Can I say that I go out loud forty.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Two to nineteen?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yet it was six to nothing.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
They were down San Francisco in the second quarter, and
then they scored touchdowns on six straight drives in LA.
The Rams got sixteen points in the last four minutes
and beat Cleveland thirty six to nineteen. Tampa Bay edge
Carolina twenty one eighteen. Panthers are one and eleven this season.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Well.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Detroit won again on the road nine and three record
now for the Lions thirty three twenty eight and Miami's
nine and three after winning at Washington forty five to fifteen.
Devon Ah Chain, in his first six career games in
the league has nine touchdowns. Now only Eric Dickerson had
a better start. He had ten touchdowns in his first

(26:48):
six career games. Now, granted with the bad knee, this
is not weeks one through six of h Head's rookie year.
Nonetheless fairly impressive. Houston beat Denver twenty two to seventeen.
In wide Receiver Tank Dell reportedly suffered a broken leg.
Arizona won at Pittsburgh twenty four to ten. There were
two weather delays there. Quarterback Kenny Pickett of the Steelers

(27:09):
left with an ankle injury. He could miss two to
four weeks. Indianapolis won in overtime at Tennessee thirty one
to twenty eight. Chargers with a couple of second quarter
field goals, won six to nothing at New England. The
Patriots have lost five in a row. They're two and ten,
so of course they'll be on Thursday Night Football this week.
Atlanta one at the Jets thirteen to eight. Jets have

(27:30):
lost five in a row. Six NFL teams were on
a bye this week. Number one ranked Michigan will face
Alabama in the Rose Bowl semi final. Then it'll be
number two Washington against Texas in the Sugar Bowl on
New Year's Night. Number five Florida State versus number six
Georgia in the Orange Bowl. December the thirtieth no NBA games.
Today in college hoops, Southern University won at number twenty

(27:52):
one Mississippi State with a twelve zero run at the
end sixty to fifty nine wow. And Auburn was beaten
at apple Atchian State sixty nine to sixty four. NHL
victories for LA Boston and the Rangers. X manager Jim
Leland was voted into the Baseball Hall of Fame tonight
by a committee. He got fifteen of the sixteen votes.
And speaking of votes, of the fifty two NBC NFL

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analysts on their pregame show tonight, all of them picked
the Kansas City Chiefs to win tonight. Actually it was
all nine picking the Kansas City Chiefs to win this game.
It just seems week after week like they're hiring fifty
two people. The first half of this game.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
By the way.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
It was one long drive after another first game in
the NFL this season with just six drives total or less.
First two Green Bay long drives touchdowns, first two Kansas
City long drives field goals. So the Chiefs were down
fourteen to six, playing uphill the rest of the night.
So Jordan Love has thrown two touchdown passes on the

(28:54):
first two drives of the game in back to back
games in the last decade. The only quarterbacks have done
that back to back games Joe Burrow and Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Back to you, Oh thanks, Steve, Steve dropping John Jams
the little drop there. Yeah, by the way, Steve, how does.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It feel to do your update without getting questioned or
being interrupted with a smooth it feel good yeah?

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Or somebody actually claiming they have power in the hallways.
That's always the most funny to all of us.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
That's my favorite.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
I give you the day off, I get you you.
I'm not sure management even though you're still here.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I kind of laughed because Arnie Arnie. I think you've
worked with Arnie a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Scary.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, he doesn't really ever take days off, like this
is his only job. In fact, I can't even remember
the last time that he took a day off. But
because he's kinda what's a sugar daddy? Is the dad
that is the guy that takes care of husband, right,
so he's like a sugar husband and he and he
posted on Twitter not too long ago because he's in

(29:55):
what Puerto Rico, that.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Is Costa Rica, Costa Rica?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Sorry, sorry coast or you're right that the total of
lunch was like fifty six thousand, five hundred ninety two dollars,
but I guess, you know, obviously that wasn't in US dollars.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
Yeah, of course, And then was what happened to me
when I went to Central America and I knew a
Burger King and it said the walker was.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Twenty four bucks? And what is going on? And then
it wasn't us.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
That's sorry, that's great, ABC exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
But the best part of it is the lunch was
still one hundred and five dollars, and he's like, looks
like lunch was expensive, and ninety percent of the people
on his benches are like, one hundred dollars for lunch
is really expensive for a lunch anyway, So yeah, it's
not fifty six thousand pesos or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
But it is still one hundred and five dollars.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
So wait, Chris, Chris, was it a solo lunch or
was it all.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
The more time she spends with him happen.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, So Arnie will be back next week and we'll
go uh, we'll go all in on exactly what is
going on in the Alamobile. Everyone's so excited about the
Alamo Bowl in Norman. The rumor is is carry that
we're going to go down and back on the same day.
Now that's that's how you know a group was excited
about a bowl game. Well, let's get to college today

(31:11):
this morning. I'm not gonna say I was shocked. I
don't think anyone was shocked with what went down. Florida
State undefeated Jordan Travis injured. Now I hear this a lot,
and I hate to be literal guy, but it's not
the NCAA that made this decision. So when you're jumping
on Twitter or you're jumping around saying, oh, the NCAA

(31:33):
screwing everyone again, it's not. I mean, in fact, the
NCAA couldn't be less involved with college football when it
came to nil. What did the NCAA do like, you
know what, you guys, take care of this yourself. Right
when it comes to doling out punishments. The NCAA couldn't
be less involved, but all right, sorry, try to be
more involved. Couldn't be less authoritative in it because they

(31:56):
don't want to go to court. This is the College
Football Playoff Committee, right, This is the bulls. This isn't
the nca I'm not defending them, and I'm not saying
that they got it right.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
But when you come around and.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
You're like, oh, take this in CAA, they're getting off, man,
they're getting off.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
This isn't their fault. But Carrie, as you watched.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
The game last night, you're Alma Mater coming up short
against Florida State. Did you have a problem with the
way that this played out here this morning?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, it's tough. I don't have a problem obviously. I
mean I think I just think there needs to be
clear and precise reasons for putting these teams in it, right.
I think that would obviously clean up the optics of it.
Right because at the end of the day, if you're
in the Power five conference, that's supposed to mean something.

(32:45):
If you go undefeated and win that conference, that means something.
And then you look at the conference as a whole.
I know people are saying Mickey Mouse conference acc blah
blah blah whatever. At the end of the day, they
had four teams still ranked right in the top twenty five.
They were six and four against the So when you
stack it up that way, it just doesn't merit that

(33:05):
Alabama should be in over for to say, obviously, me
being from Alabama, I don't mine Alabama being in it.
But I'm just saying, like, for the clarity of everyone
watching or somebody that may not be as invested in
college football, but they see this thing that's a big
reveal that obviously is being put out there for the

(33:26):
attention to grab attention from people that sometimes don't watch
the sport, Right, Yeah, that's what it's for.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
So if you're.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Doing that and you're creating this buzz about you know,
these teams and the reasons for them getting in, just
be clear with that. And I think that's probably the
main reason it's a big thing.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I did a four hour radio show this morning talking
about it on our college channel for those that listen
to Fox Sports Radio over on serious XM channel eighty three,
and there were one of six things, or in this
case multi tude of six things, history was going to
happen today right in some way, shape or form. Texas

(34:05):
had never made the playoff. Before they make the playoff,
the SEC champion has never been left out of the playoffs.
The SEC champion was not left out of the playoffs.
But an undefeated Power five team had never been left
out of the playoffs. They were tonight. There's never been
a year where all four playoff teams were undefeated. We

(34:26):
didn't get that, and we wouldn't have it unless they
were gonna put Liberty in the playoffs. The number one
team in the next to last So are the final
regular season rankings they used that fancy word penultimate rankings
had never fallen out of the top four. That happened
with Georgia, and no team outside of the top six
in the penultimate playoff ranking had ever made the playoffs.

(34:47):
Two of them did wow in these rankings, right, I mean,
it's just it's unbelievable. Here's my thing, and we're going
to talk about it a lot tonight, and we're up
against it.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
But I'm with Kerry.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Give me all this bs leading up to it, right, well,
you know, we'll see about the Jordan Travis injury. I mean,
what a Florida State would have said, Hey, you know,
if there's a chance he could be back? Yeah, right,
what a Florida State would have said, This isn't as
severe as we thought. Yeah, he's gonna be on crutches,
but he could be back sooner rather than later than
what you do, right, But I understand the Florida State frustration.

(35:21):
With that said, I think we're gonna get a much
better game with Michigan Alabama.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Sure. I just I'm sorry, I really truly do.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
And that sucks because Jared Versus that Florida State defense
is legit, yep, but they didn't have Jordan Travis. And
this is in the NFL, where fourteen teams get in
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
The Alliance wanted.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
To try to stop everyone from changing conferences, so they
they made sure we postponed the twelve team playoff until
next year, in a season when it would have been great.
I'm sorry, we're running lay. We'll talk more about this
throughout the night and next with Carrie Roads. I'm Chris Planks,
Fox Sports Radio. Carry Getting old sucks. I'm just I
literally spent that whole Comer Marshall break looking for a

(36:01):
remote that I have in my pocket. I mean, welcome
back Fox Sports Sunday. We're recapping Week thirteen in the NFL.
We got into a little bit of the college football playoffs.
Last segment. I think we're gonna get good games. I
hate the process behind it. I hate that it's a
bunch of guys sitting in a room making that decision.

(36:22):
But I don't think we're gonna up getting a good
four team playoff. I really do think. I think we're
gonna get four really good games.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
MY biggest surprise this weekend, and I don't know what
yours was of the championship games.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I was shocked out Washington just I mean, they had
their way with Oregon.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, and I hated that for a buddy Jeff Schwartz
here on Fox Sports Radio, whom you hear, Oregon A love.
But I mean, I I've doubted Washington all year. I
just filled out my Heisman ballot and it I'm telling
you what I know. Pinnicks had a couple of games
where he disappeared, but it's it's hard not to think
about him on that top spot. That Washington team wowed
me this weekend. Yeah, I was a little prized by

(37:00):
that one too. I mean I definitely thought Oregon was
gonna get get there, get back, so to speak, in
that game, and Washington just proved to be better. And
you know, you gotta put Penis as your favorite for
the Heisman right now. I mean, obviously, I think it's
still Jayalen Daniels right now, Jayden Daniels right now.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
I think that's what I've been hearing as far as favorites.
But yeah, he's he's he's the big money fit.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
He's the big money favorite, right But it's it's hard
for you not to go panis he beat He beat
Bo Nixon, who's going to finish in the top three
probably and beat him twice head to head, and Team
one's in the playoff and you know, his whole story
starting in Indiana and getting another chance in Washington to
write his career and just his story. His story is

(37:45):
really good. It's one of those stories that you root for.
And he's a good player too, So yeah, I just
I can't see Daniels winning, obviously, I can't.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I take that back.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
I can see him winning because of another situation in
the SEC with the quarterback that lost three games and
back in the day mister Tim Tebow. So yeah, I mean,
anything's possible, but I would definitely go bow knicks for
mine as well.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I mean I want Penis sorry Penick, Yeah, Pinis. I
will give Pinis one one little tid bit of credit.
He did what I really wanted to do. He ended
up in college for six years, so I mean that's
it's kind of what you want.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Did you want to do that? Oh my gosh, man,
I want to go back. But see, you had to
really do work right.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
You were what was your first year two thousand at Louisville,
So you were there in two thousand and then one, two, three,
and four, Is that right? That's correct. Hey, you guys
had something. You guys had a team in two thousand
and one and two thousand and four. See, you had
to actually work right. You had to go to workouts,
you had to go to class and all that stuff.
I was living the Van Wilder life. So that's why

(38:47):
I'm always trying to get back. And I think one
of the funniest things in college football this season is
just thinking about the Heisman, which will be they'll announce
the four finalists tomorrow. But should there's no numb usually
it's three, it can be five. But they'll announce the
finalist tomorrow afternoon. But it's wild to think that the
SEC likes to beat its chess. The PAC twelve made

(39:09):
rest in Peace, likes to beat its chess. Arguably the
best quarterback in the SEC was a PAC twelve cast
off that was eight and five at Arizona State and
had ten touchdowns and ten interceptions his final season there
under Herm Edwards in Jane Daniels and arguably the best
quarterback in the PAC twelve two of them. One of

(39:30):
them was a cast off from the SEC and the
other was a cast off from.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
The Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yes, make it make sense, Carrie. All right, we'll sprinklin
more college. You guys have opinions on it on Twitter.
We'll get to him coming up in hour number two.
But we're all about week thirteen of the National Football
League when we come back. Todd Furman is going to
join us a little bit after the top of the hour,
and again on Sunday Night Football, the Chiefs fall to

(39:55):
the Green Bay Packers. I know only got about a
minute here in the first hour. But we've talked about
if Philly and Kansas City haven't quite looked themselves. Do
you see them being able to turn it around?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Do you think Casey Casey's got a favorable schedule down
the stretching.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I think they can get it cooking again. Yeah, I
think Philly can. I mean, they're not going to miss
the playoffs anything, nothing weird like that. They they'll be fine,
and the rest of those schedule kind of lightens up
here after this Dallas game. I think they got Seattle,
but the rest are games that they should be favored
in and favored to win. So they'll definitely write the
ship and make the playoffs. I just don't see them

(40:30):
making the return trip to the super Bowl here.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Well, they get to play the Giants twice, so that helps, yes,
But here's the final five for Philadelphia if you want
to get concerned, at Dallas, at Seattle, home for the Giants,
Home for the Cardinals, at.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
The New York Giants. Exactly. Yeah, they're going to be
favoring probably for those five games.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
All right, when we come back, your tweets and the
great Todd Furman joins us already is on vacation tonight
the legend. Carrie Rhades is sitting in I'm Chris Plank.
Were two next right here on Fox Sports Radio. And
it comes down to the teens that have history. The
teams that people want to see right now are the
ones that they're going to put in there. And I

(41:10):
think that was pretty evident by what happened today. Yeah,
I agree, all right. I like this from Griddles mcblackout,
who writes, interesting that the two entities that ruined college
football as we know it, the Rose Bowl in Texas,
got their dream scenario by you know, I will say,
I know that it wouldn't have worked out because Michigan
was one and Washington was two, but I wouldn't have

(41:33):
minded the Rose bull actually ended up with a good
old fashioned Pac twelve Big ten matchup right. I mean,
that's Pack ten Big ten from back in the day.
I would have loved it. Ahead News, just one more
on this and we'll get to some NFL stuff, he writes,
Hate to say it, but Florida State should have been
ranked sixth. Georgia will work out all their frustrations and
pound the Seminoles into the ground. You can't hide a

(41:56):
third string freshman quarterback against the dogs. Boy, they sure
did try to hide the bless his hard freshman. Find
me another player in college football who starts a conference
championship game and can still preserve his red shirt which
four games and he could have played. And I give
Mike Norvella all the credit. They started running the wildcat.
They tried to do anything last night against Louisville. But

(42:19):
I mean, just you're supposed to evaluate them after the
injury based on what you've seen post injury. And I
kind of been more impressed that they won a game
with their third stringer. But they're not the same team
without Jordan Travis. It's just the reality of and it sucks,
there's no other way to say it.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
And Chris, the other thing about that, the other part
of the equation is he's not going to be the
quarterback that's going to play in a bowl game though,
that's right, And so how did they look with the
other guy? And I know they had to come back
comfort behind to beat the North Alabama I think it was,
and so I mean, and they end up winning that
game pretty handedly. So it's just it's very unfortunate, man,

(42:55):
because I know he looked bad, and I mean, think
about his his situation and right he's a true freshman,
had only thrown four passes all year, and you're playing
an the ACCY Championship game. It's just it's unfathomable, unfathomable
to think about that being your first time. But they
got to win. I think they should have been in.
But again, obviously you can't go wrong with Alabama beating

(43:17):
Georgia and winning the SEC championship, be getting in the
game you get.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Did you get to watch much last night? Were you
diland or did you have other things going on?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I do know I watched it.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, Has Jack Plumber ever played football before? Was that?
Was that the first time he stepped on the field?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Oh my gosh, And credit to Florida State's defense, But
there were some plays to be made. He was just
really bad last He was terrible last night. But but
Jack's like that though.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Jack's either really on and really good or he's really
bad and he usually makes good decisions. Then he doesn't.
It's just it's either hit a miss with him. And
he doesn't help his fact because he doesn't really show
a lot of emotion either, so you can't really tell
if he's invested. Gotcha and he's just one of those
guys that I mean, if you read Louisville fanboards and

(44:07):
stuff like that, and you read the tweets, I mean,
they've been hard on them all year. And you know,
if you.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Look at Louisville at Louisville and the games that they lost,
it was because of him.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
In his turnovers last night, not good.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Just completed thirty eight percent of his passes fourteen or
thirty six sacks seven times, and because they count the
sack yardage, he ended up averaging negative two point five
yards per carry. So not a not a good knight
for him.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
To the NFL.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
With your tweets and reactions so far, here's a couple
of thoughts on the officiating. Our buddy Roger the Engineer
checks in. He writes, So, the myth of the Chiefs
getting all the calls? Are we done with that? I
mean the guy grabbed Valdez Scantling's arm and was riding
his back. How was that not called? The Chiefs are

(44:57):
not doing it with style this year, but in the
end they'll be there, and that kind of how it
always is.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Carrie, Yeah, no, yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess. The
Swifties didn't have their pool tonight in Lambeau. The Chiefs
do get a lot of calls, it seems like during
the season they they definitely didn't get those. Tonight they
got the one on the sideline though that Patrick Mahomes run,
he was still in bound. So it's just been it's

(45:24):
just been bad officiating all around. I don't think it
has anything to do with Kansas City, especially tonight, but yeah,
it was just a bad day.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Well, and I'll add one more thing, is there is
there is there enough bad where the NFL says we've
got to do more or is it about where it
is all the time and it just seems to be
that it happens in the most visible places like tonight
and Sunday Night football with the four or five bad
calls just in that final drive alone. I guess my

(45:54):
point is is it something that has always been there?
In words, you're seeing more angles and replays of it,
and it matters more because when it's happening, or is
it truly worse with the zebras and we've.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Seen no, it's worse, I think, So it really is worse.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I mean even from routine things like spoting the ball
like I've seen that's so much here in the last
couple of weeks, where you know they're left footing it
when a SIPI right's footing it, and it just doesn't
even make any sense making teams have to go forward
on fourth down and one when it's already a first down,
and it's it's bad football, bad officiating. Sorry, yeah no,

(46:29):
and it leads to bad football too. A couple of
others here, this one on the other side of it.
Colin writes the final drive of the Chiefs Packers game
proves the NFL and its officials don't understand what past
interference is and never will. But my Packers once and
no complaining at all.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
It's good when you're only on the side of that.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Right, not sure, Yeah, when your team takes care of business.
I guess I would add to that. There's certain things
that I feel like either a we we try to
clean up or change about every two or three years,
and I feel like past interference was one. Anyone remember
that season when pass interference was a reviewable play where

(47:11):
you could throw a flag and you could challenge past
interference because we overreacted to that play in the Rams
Saints game that led the Rams to their Super Bowl.
I mean, we tend to overreact, We overcorrect, and I
feel like that's kind of happened a little bit with
pass interference. It definitely has with protecting the quarterback and
targeting this year, just it really hasn't leveled itself out,

(47:35):
I think, Carrie to where it's come back to normalcy
with the calls.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
You know, the ironic thing with the pass interference, that
misspass and appearance right there, that's that type of play
where it's becoming one of the most I guess one
of the best plays for an offense to do right
is to throw the under the underthrown deep ball. Right
even in that situation, we see it all the time.

(47:58):
That's an automatic flag. It's not even up for debate.
They're calling that with regularity. Right That ball that Patrick
Mahomes threw to Scantling at the end, there was a
little on the throne, So the dB is running back
and the receiver's trying to come back to the ball
to make it play and the DB's coming through his
back because of the ball being short. So it's just
one of those ones where it's a blatant miss hard.

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I know it's hard to see in full speed sometimes,
but that one was very apparent that it was passing appearance.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I ended one more here on a complete other side
and a game that we haven't talked about yet for
good reason. Calvert at that damn bear on Twitter rights.
Being a New England Patriots fan, there was nothing to
be zappy about after that game today what mac Jones?
What Jones me was being shut out. Belichick needs to go.
The game has changed and we need to start over

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from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Right here.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
We are here, We are an hour and fourteen minutes
into the show, and this is my fault, so I'll
wear it. But we've literally talked about one game in
the NFL. We've talked about the Sunday night football too,
I'm sorry. We've talked about the Packers beating the Chiefs
twenty seven to nineteen is Sunday night football. We've talked
about the forty nine Ers dominating Eagles, and we've talked

(49:13):
about the college football playoffs. What we haven't talked about,
and it's why I love my job so much, is
the Chargers Patriots game. Because I think there was an
edict sitting down for the Fox Sports radio execs that
was to not talk about that game or the Falcons
Jets game because it's set offensive football back so far
six six nothing, six zip?

Speaker 1 (49:34):
How does that happen? Carry?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
I talked about this earlier, so, Chris, so think about
this back in the day, in a low scoring game
like that, right, if you watched, if you watch the
game and you're if you're invested in the game, and
it's a defensive battle, right the whole school eighty five
Bears or the two thousand Ravens, right when defense was

(49:57):
all the raids and people got excited about seeing big
hits and defensive dominating games, and you wouldn't call those
games bad games or ugly games, right. I think at
that time that was acceptable. Now with the way the
rules are being played and the way that defensive can't
be as physical or dominant when these games are this

(50:18):
low score, and you knew it is bad football because
it's not like the defense really has the upper hand
in any of these situations. Back in those days, you
could be handsy, you can hold a little bit, you
can get away with a few things. You can intimidate
receivers and running backs and quarterbacks. You can't do that now,
So If you're not able to score over twenty points

(50:39):
in today's football, it's usually bad football.

Speaker 7 (50:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
I knew this was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
When we had the offensive explosion like we did on
Thursday night with Cowboys and Seahawks combined for seventy six points.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I knew we'd get some games like this. But oof.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, let's spend some time with Todd when we come back,
talking about where the Patriots are and what he thinks
needs to happen. Going Furtherry Roads is in for Arnie tonight,
who's on vacation. Lorrain is grinding through BT running the show.
We got Disaga with an update coming up here in
about twenty minutes from now. But when we come back,
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Oh no, open.

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Speaker 1 (52:18):
Hey Plank, Yes, sir, it's nice to actually be called
a producer this week. Right, Just for those.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Regularly Arnie needs to pretend like he doesn't know anyone
that works on the show.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Carry Brandon is the best guy ever.

Speaker 8 (52:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
He grinds you know what I mean, He grinds, walks
in happy. It's right even when he even when you
know it's a long day or he hasn't been in
the you can you can tell, but he shows up,
does it day after day.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Great guy.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah, I could not argue with that at all, if
Arnie was here, he would roll.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Todd Furman straight out of Vegas hanging out with us
on a Sunday night into a Monday where the portal
is now officially opening college football. But thankfully Todd hasn't
transferred out from our show yet. Todd, I do want
to start college football. What'd you make of the playoffs?
You think they got it right?

Speaker 9 (53:10):
Well, hey, first thing first, there's a good chance that
Arnie's not Fortenning. He doesn't know anybody's name. He legitimately
might not see anybody.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
That's a good point. That's a really good point.

Speaker 9 (53:18):
We have to give him the benefit of the doubt
that it's nothing malicious, that it's just more scatterbrain than
anything else. When you look at the college football playoff Look,
I've been critical of the committee and all continue to
be critical because, in my opinion, they didn't put the
four most deserving teams in, nor do they put the
four best teams into the college football playoffs. So they
didn't stay true to a lot of their central tenants,
and I think it sends a dangerous message to college

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football players across the country. With the transfer portal being
very real. If you're starting quarterback goes down, it doesn't
matter what you accomplish. You may as well hang it up,
decide that the season's over because the committee is not
going to respect your resume and full body of work.
I mean, you look at Michigan yesterday. They must are
two hundred and thirteen yards of offense against Iowa. Florida State.
That everything they possibly could. Yet because they decide that

(54:03):
a third string quarterback didn't do enough to create margin
of victory, Florida State doesn't get a seat at the table.
And I really think it's a travesty that they're on
the outside looking in. Not to say that Alabama wasn't deserving,
but we play the games for a reason, and unless
you know what Florida State was going to do when
they stepped up in class against Michigan and the College
Football Playoff, were left to speculate if they did deserve
an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Todd this carry here? How you doing, man?

Speaker 9 (54:25):
I'm good, Carrie, I.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
So I wonder now?

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Right, So every time there's some kind of controversy here
in collegiate football, right, they expanded, right, So now the
expansion is going to twelve teams, right, So is that
going to be the answer to all our prayers or
to the prayers of all the teams that think they
have a shot to get in. Do you think this
is going to be the remedy or you think that
thirteenth team is going to start crying about not being

(54:50):
in the top twelve.

Speaker 9 (54:51):
I think they're definitely gonna cry about it. But I
think at the same time, when we look at college
football in general, I mean, how often do we believe
the thirteenth team really has a legitimate chan to go
out there and win the national championship? Any different than
all the buzz that we make about bubble teams in
the NCAA tournament. Yes, you get some of those teams
in the playing games that have the improbable run of
the final four, but more often than not, they're not

(55:12):
legitimate national championship contenders. And I think the debate we
would have had if this was a twelve team playoff
would have boiled down to something that I also think
the committee got wrong. Liberty getting in over SMU and
SMU with a backup quarterback would be more than a
field goal favorite. They challenge themselves out of conference, losing
the two teams in the Big twelve in TCU and Oklahoma.
Liberty deserves a world of credit. They went thirteen to oh,

(55:34):
but there are some high school teams in the country
that would have gone thirteen and oh against liberty schedule,
given that they played nobody from a Power five and
you look at the non conference resume, maybe Bowling Green
is the best one that they can boast this year.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah maybe so, Hey, Todd, who are you more worried
with or worried about going forward? Just from a favorite perspective,
Philadelphia or Kansas City?

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Right now? Who do you think is maybe in a
little bit more danger.

Speaker 9 (55:57):
Look, I think both these teams are extremely flow right now,
and I think Kansas City we keep waiting for them
to figure out their offensive identity. And you have to
imagine that Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are going to
find their footing, but they have to get healthy on
the defensive side. And you saw them look to struggle
with communication when they lose Drew Trankwill early in that game.
You have inexperienced players to take over the green to
opposition and that was a major red flag in this spot.

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Whereas Philadelphia, yes they're ten and two. And I know
this game, this earlier today open people's eyes, but this
is a team that's been living on the razors edge.
I mean, in the NFL, you can't consistently put yourself
behind the eight ball and expect to erase deficits as
the games mean more and more and you play better competition.
We can go all the way back to the Washington
Commanders game where the Eagles were down at the half,

(56:41):
they were down against the Cowboys. The list goes on
and on, and I think when you look at Philadelphia,
if you're going to put yourself down and out early,
this defense isn't anywhere close to what we saw last year.
And we're seeing Jalen Hurt struggle a little bit to
distribute the ball the same way. I think Philadelphia is
in a lot more peril in the NFC, even if
it's thinner than Kansas City in the A.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yeah, Todd, I got a question.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
So I think there's a consensus that there's a top
four in the NFC, and we think in AFC it's
a little bit more. It's a little bit more wide
open as far teams being able to get in the
playoffs and possibly make a run in AFC. How many
of those teams from both conferences do you really think
have a chance, a legit chance to win as So
Bowl this year?

Speaker 9 (57:22):
You know, I think it's interesting when you look at
the AFC carrier. Early in the year, I would have
said it was significantly deeper. But I feel like right
now there's a separation of the haves and have nots,
with four teams that are cut above. Miami still lacks
that big time win to define their resume, but the Ravens, Jaguars,
and Chiefs, all on their best day, going to be
difficult out. I think the Colts and Texans are nice stories,

(57:42):
but I don't think anybody believes that Gardner Minshew or
even CJ. Strout, as well as he's playing, is capable
of putting together a Cinderella run. We'll see if the
Bills can figure some things out, because I'm sure there
are plenty of teams that don't want to see them
should they punch their ticket to the postseason. Meanwhile, in
the NFC, I think it's Philadelphia, San Francisco to trade
and Dallas to your point, and then everybody else just

(58:03):
kind of fighting at the back end that maybe if
the Vikings and the Packers or the Falcons were to
get hot, they can pull off an upset.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 9 (58:09):
I think it's four or five teams in the AFC
and probably a clearly delineated top four in the NFC
right now, Tod, can you kind.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Of give us a Vegas perspective on officiating and the
frustration of what we're seeing.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
I mean, it's just it's.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Got to be incredibly enraging because you feel like you
have something set up where you're going to get a
number and then next thing you know, the Zebras are
blown a call.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
How concerning is it?

Speaker 9 (58:34):
I mean, I think it's always a problem, but that's
the human element in any sport, and whether it's college
football or the NFL, whether it's my beloved NHL, or
you never know when a makeup call is coming to
try and even things up on special teams, the ever
changing strike zone that is Major League Baseball and watching
a game with Joe West behind the plate, it's just
a part of it, and you hope that it doesn't
happen in a high leverage situation. And I think tonight's

(58:55):
game between Kansas City and Green Bay, the final minute
taints what was a pretty well official game for the
better part of fifty nine minutes. But you get the
fifteen yard penalty where Mahomes is still in bounds. You
get the pass interference where I mean you call that
in a backyard game on Thanksgiving Day, You're calling that
and giving a spotfall in that instance. And I think
even on the Hail Mary, you see Jonathan Owens get

(59:15):
a full on shove for Travis Kelcey that doesn't give
him an opportunity. Do I think it changes the outcome
of the game. Probably not, But at the same time,
you'd like to see it play a little bit truer
than what it did for the final sixty seconds.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Yeah, the NFL offishing has been really bad. We talked
about it earlier, but I mean it's always had ups
and downs. But I think right now it's just so
apparent to a lot of people. And I think what
you just the points you made Plank about the money
stuff being involved, Right, more and more people are involved
involved in it.

Speaker 10 (59:47):
Right.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
It's not a bird's eye view anymore. It's like we're
in it and we need to know what's going on.
And it's starting to get a little bit fishy, and
I think that's the problem with what's going on right now.

Speaker 9 (59:58):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think anytime you've in some
legalized gambling into the equation, and you know the league
has some partners there, you want more transparency, and I
think the league goes it's to its fans. I mean,
we've seen it in some of the other leagues where
you get to listen in on the communication between the
booths and the officials and how quickly those things get done.
That the more you can peel back the curt and
the more people trust the product. The unfortunate part is

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those people that bet the smallest amounts are the ones
that's screen bloody murder that they've been rough and one
capacity or another. Whereas someone like me who does this
for a living, Yeah, bad call is going to bother
me and it doesn't leave me brimming with confidence or
feeling great when it goes the wrong way late in
a pivotal situation. But at the same time, over thousands
and thousands of trials of doing this, you'll be on
the wrong side of some calls, you'll be on the

(01:00:42):
right side of others, and you just have to hope
it balances out. More for the sports better than it
does for some of these teams and fans.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Quite frankly, that final thought, We'll let you get out
of here. How impressed were you with San Francisco today?

Speaker 9 (01:00:52):
I think this was the kind of forty nine Ers
performance that we were looking for. I don't think they
were capable of doing this in a high leverage spot
in the NFC playoffs last year. Party was healthy. But
everything's set up well. Philadelphia playing their third game in
thirteen days, san Francisco coming in off the mini buy,
and the fact that they were able to hang forty
points after a pretty lethargic first quarter where it looked
like they were going to struggle, just speaks volumes about

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how dynamic this team is on both sides of the ball.
But the forty nine Ers, much like the Rams team
that won the Super Bowl a few years ago, cannot
afford a single injury to a lot of their impact players.
It's one of the finnest rosters in the leagues, and
it's a team that on their best day like today,
can beat the Philadelphia Eagles convincingly, and on their worst
day can struggle with one of the worst coursebacks in
the NFLPJ Walker on the road.

Speaker 7 (01:01:34):
So you've seen.

Speaker 9 (01:01:34):
Opposite end of the spectrum, and I think if the
forty nine ers stay healthy, there is no doubt they
are the most complete team in the league and should
have every opportunity to win the Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
At the Board podcast at Todd Furman on Twitter. You're
the man, Todd. Have a great week. Talk to you
next Sunday.

Speaker 9 (01:01:48):
Always a pleasure, and Plank enjoy your evening working with
a consumment professional instead of being a long time for
the last time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Yeah, that's so nice. I'm not gonna lie on the islander.
It's it keeps growing. It's corazy growing right well, because
we're thanks Scott. We're all relaxed. We're having a good
time tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
We're not being told we're stupid or that no one
knows who works here. It's been and we haven't had
the Dolphins cram down though. It's been beautiful. Steve Sager
is in the house to get us caught up on.
I guess everything's a final now, right, Steve.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
And I should give Arny the night off. Maro, you should, right,
we'll get to the Packers victory. But he mentioned Joe West.
Do you realize the retired umpire was up for the
Baseball Hall of Fame tonight? As the baseball winner meters
you're getting underway at Nashville. There's a Hall of Fame
committee that was meeting. This is for the non players
of the contemporary era. There were eight guys on the ballot.

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The one of the eight that got in, X manager
Jim Leland is officially in the Hall of Fame. There's
sixteen committee members. You needed to get at least twelve
votes out of the sixteen. Leland got fifteen of sixteen.
Ex manager Lou Panella got eleven of sixteen, so he
was just short. Former Executive Bill White got ten out

(01:02:58):
of sixteen. Other that didn't get many votes at all
today Davey Johnson, Cito Gaston, ex umpire Joe West, and
Ed Montague and executive Hank Peters as well. But it's
first time that a manager is getting into the Baseball
Hall in Cooperstown since a decade ago when Joe Tory,
Bobby Cox, Tony LaRussa all got in unanimously. To the

(01:03:20):
NFL and the game in Cold Green Bay tonight, Well,
that's kind of repetitive isn't it cold? Green Bay six
and six record for the Packers now they beat Kansas
City twenty seven nineteen Chiefs mark falls to eight and four.
Patrick Mahomes one touchdown, one interception, Jordan Loved three touchdown passes,
two to Christian Watson who left with a hamstring injury.

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And we got to say it again. Kansas City had
two long drives to start the game and they settled
for two field goals, a huge difference in this game tonight. Meanwhile,
the Packers scored touchdowns on each of their first two
drives for a second straight game. They'd only done that
once in the last twenty plus years. But is hot

(01:04:01):
to put it mildly, and the NFC, let's just say
a playoff spot is gettable. They're six and six and
they're in the mix. A team that six and six
in the AFC is currently not realistically in the playoff picture.
Denver Broncos, for example, close are six and six. Denver
lost at Houston twenty two to seventeen. Houston wide receiver

(01:04:23):
Tank Dell suffered a broken leg. Nico Collins nine catches,
one hundred and ninety one yards and a touchdown. Texans
are five and two at home. And how about the
rookie quarterback c J. Stroud already this season is over
three thousand, five hundred passing yards.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
Only two other guys had reached that mark in his
first twelve games in the league in his career, and
that was Patrick Mahomes and Andrew Luck. So yeah, pretty
good start to the career. Todd mentioned San Francisco. The
final at Philadelphia was forty two to nineteen. San Francisco
did trail six to nothing in the second quarter and
then scored touchdowns on six straight drives, brought Purty four

(01:04:59):
to touchdown passes. He wound up nineteen of twenty seven
for three hundred fourteen yards. The Rams beat Cleveland thirty
six to nineteen. Seems lopsided, but the Rams scored sixteen
points in the last four minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Of that game.

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
Do you know we still got one game left in
this NFL weekend? But so far nine of the twelve
games have been within one score in the fourth quarter,
such as tonight's game, And in fact, this season in
the NFL over seventy percent of all games have been
within one score in the fourth quarter. Even the Colts
were tied somehow in the fourth quarter at Tennessee. They

(01:05:34):
overcame a ten point deficit wound up winning in overtime.
Colts have won fourth straight. That's actually the AFC's longest
current active streak. I must mention the Titans did miss
an extra point kick with about five minutes left. Maybe
it shouldn't have gone to overtime. Detroit nine and three
after holding out at New Orleans, Miami nine and three
after a dominant win at Washington, Tampa Bay beat Carolina

(01:05:57):
twenty one to eighteen, which brings us to the up
date of the NFL draft order. The Carolina Panthers are
one and eleven. Bryce Young, number one overall pick this
past year, had one interception today, sacked four times.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
That's okay, they can draft.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
Somebody else number one overall, right, Well, that would be
possible if Carolina hadn't traded its first round pick for
the coming year to the Chicago Bears. So as it stands,
Chicago would have two top five selections in the first
round in late April. Currently, that pick that belongs to

(01:06:34):
the Bears, because Carolina is one eleven, is just ahead
of New England, which is two and ten. You were
talking about the Patriots. This past hour this I read
that the Pats are now the first team in the
Super Bowl era, and that's fifty five plus years to
in a three game stretch not just go oh to three,
but to go oh and three while surrendering no more

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than ten points in any of those games.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
They lost six.

Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
Nothing at home in the rain to the Chargers, and
running back Ramondre Stevenson left with a sprained ankle due
to the hip drop tackle. If the NFL doesn't address
this in the offseason, I don't know what more they need.
It's yet another injury from that they really got on. Remember,
well we see the horse collar thing called all the time.

(01:07:21):
Now it's an actual rule they got on that. They
gotta at least talk about this in the offseason.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Back to you, thanks, Steve. I was trying to get
us caught up too. Steve was bringing up the draft order.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I always like to get caught up on injuries around
this time too. And it's not looking good for Kenny
Picket ankle injury. Looks like it's going to be two
to four weeks that they're going to be without him.
Now again, I don't think we're necessarily voting Kenny Pickett
for the Pro Bowl, but even pretty effective in late

(01:07:54):
game situations. Yeah yeah, late game only Zealer fans. So
it looks like he's going to be out for a while.
Ramandre Stevenson, Patriots running back. Who I mean, any offense
helps for New England right now. Ankle x rays were negative,
so that's a good sign. And I mean, I don't
know the Saints offensive line I think has a vandatta.

(01:08:16):
They're trying to get Derek Carr killed. Man, we got
that game, so I was doing this college show watch.
I watched that whole game while we're doing the college
show today. And I don't know if I've seen a
quarterback have a worse start than Derek Carr did today.
And the interception wasn't even his fault. It went right
off of receiver's hands. I don't know if I've seen

(01:08:37):
a quarterback play better than Derek Carr did. After the
first quarter, he was unbelievable. And then Bruce Irvin buried
him in the turf. And I don't dude, that's like
the third time he's been knocked out of a game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
This year with the Saints.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Yes, I know that it's easy to always blame the quarterback, right,
and then always praise the quarterback. But places like New Orleans,
if they don't get their offensive line figured out, it
don't matter who their quarterback is, he's not gonna have
a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Yeah, that's most places. Yeah, Chris, it's it starts up front.
That's why those left tackles get paid all that money.
You have to protect the franchise guys. And you know,
the Saints have been a disappointment to me. I thought
they'd be a lot better. I thought their defense would
be a lot better, and it just really hasn't panned out.
But yeah, car, I mean he had to. He had

(01:09:24):
a lot of he had a lot of catching up
to do with with being in a new situation, new team,
new play caller. You could tell he started off a
little slow, But I thought the defense would be good
enough to get them through the point where, like you said,
I mean he has some He's had some great moments
this year as well. He just hasn't had that for
long stretches of time. But when he's on, he's on,

(01:09:45):
and he plays really well and when he's confident, so
if and the crazy part about all that all that
being said is They're still in the thick of it.
They still have a chance to win that division. So
if he can stay upright for a little bit, they
have a chance to still win.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Right now, the sixth and seventh seed in the NFC
are six and six. When we come back to the
ti rack dot Com Studios, more news and notes with
the saga.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Next on Fox Sports Radio, Arnie's out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Carrie Rhodes is in as we recap week thirteen of
the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Say hello to Steve the tyrack dot com Studios. What's
going on, Steve?

Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
Everybody in the building, say.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Along, Steve, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Arnie would sing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
He would sing a song that is not even being
played though. That's what he would do.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
By the way, you had last segment, Chris, a sentence
that started with I don't think I've ever seen quarterback
play start. As soon as you said that, I said,
you know Ryan Lindley, Rynley. We remember he had to
start the playoff game for Arizona. It's been almost a
decade now, but it was yes, yeah, you were there.

(01:10:55):
I was there with Ryan. I haven't heard that name
in a little while.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
San Diego State legend. Yes, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:11:03):
It's right and then overtaken by Kevin O'Connell. Let's I
recall but Lindley had. I looked it up. The Cardinals
that day had seventy eight yards of offense, fewest in
NFL playoff history. Yeah, it's seventy eight yard. I mean
Terry Kill gets that on one play.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Yeah, Steve, we had a game we played. We played
the Jets. It was like my homecoming. It was me
playing against my former team for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I killed him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
I picked off Mark Sanchez in the first play at
a game. I had two picks, I had a force fumble.
The score was the final score of six three. So
you're talking about bas football again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Yeah, it was Ryan Lindley was a part of that too,
all right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:40):
You know we have a Bears fan on the weeknight
show in this slot. Mike Harmon and his Bears, of course,
were on the recent Thursday night game and one without
scoring a touchdown for the first time in thirty years.
So we looked up and we found the ESPN Sunday
highlights from that Bears game. It was with Jim Harball
as quarterback, and it turns out back then Jason Smith,

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Mike's co host here was working and on the highlights
package on that show back in that era. One of
the highlights they showed and we played it on the
air was a punt. It wasn't returned for a touchdown.
It wasn't returned at all. They just showed a punt
because nothing's going on, kind of like most of the
New England Patriots games recently. Although the Chargers did have

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a defense five more sacks today against Bailey Zappi and
six nothing was the final LA Chargers win with two
thirty eight yard field goals in the second quarter. Chargers
as a team on the ground twenty four carries, twenty
nine yards rushing and then there's the forty nine er offense. Yes,
another win. They're nine and three. They beat an Eagles

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team in Philly that had been ten and one this
year forty two to nineteen. The final brock Purty four
touchdown passes. I mentioned that this Niners team scored a
touchdown on six straight drives today, first time they've done
that in a game in over thirty years in the
past decade of the NFL. Apparently, the only other team
that had scored a touchdown on six straight drives Ravens

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in twenty nineteen, so they just buried Philly by the end.
And now brock Perdy just this season has four different
games where he's had a passer rating of at least
one forty and at least three TD passes in the game.
Tom Brady had a season like that, Aaron Rodgers had
a season like that. Only those three guys in the

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history of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Steve was that twenty nineteen Raven game? Was that against
the Dolphins?

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Oh I should have looked at Oh, look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Check that out. Let me know, I think that's the Dolphins.
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
Right, well, we're gonna say something good about the Dolphins
in the absence speacause exactly a reference Tyreek Hill, who
just it's he's almost got fifteen hundred yards receiving already.
They've played twelve whole games, so I mean, that's just silly.
He had one hundred and fifty seven yards receiving as
Miami won at Washington forty five fifteen and this on

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five catches, so two long tds. Meanwhile, Washington's offense eleven drives,
eleven first downs. That's how lopsided this game was. So
the Miami offense so far this season, twenty two rushing touchdowns,
twenty five passing touchdowns already since the merger in nineteen

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seventy only two other teams have reached those numbers already
in your first twelve games of a season nineteen ninety
eight Denver, nineteen seventy five Buffalo. But Tyreek Hill already
at almost fifteen hundred receiving yards. There's a guy named
Lance Alworth who I must mention because what Hill has
done is doing right now has not been done in

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the Super Bowl era. This is more yards than even
Calvin Johnson had at this point of the season about
a decade wow, before the Super Bowl was invented. Lance Alworth,
Chargers Hall of Famer had about this many yards over
fourteen hundred at this point of the season in nineteen
sixty five, and little context wide receivers could get hit
all the way down the field. Beck then it was

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completely different. So it's just crazy. What's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Well, I would think that nobody else on that team
had catches back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
It was all him.

Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
It was all a big offense than today's Chargery exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Hey, thanks Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
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(01:16:07):
never get your Twitter feed, right, is it at Carrie
twenty five Roads?

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Oh, look at me at Carrie twenty five Roads. I'm
going to plank show. But everybody should be following us
at Fox Sports Radio. Now, we've spent a lot of
tonight talking about the four team playoffs, the leading out
of Florida State insertion of Alabama. We'll get to that
a little bit more in depth coming up in our
next segment, but for now, Carrie, let's go through all

(01:16:31):
the games, right. We really have spent a lot of
time on two. The Sunday Night football game and the
Packers beating the Chiefs, and then the Eagles in the
Niners game. In fact, I want to start with the
Eagles Niners game because there is one element of this
game that we haven't talked about yet, and that was
the dust up between dra green Law and Eagle security

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over on the sidelines. Were have you ever had that
happen to you? Did you ever have an issue with
the sideline and nonetheless a coach or a secure guard
or a security guy in this case.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Absolutely not. That was very, very strange. But the fact
that the security guy got thrown out the game, it's
just it's just it's crazy. I can't even really fathom
that that happened. But you know it was. Emotions were
running hind this game. We know that coming in. It
was a lot of chatter. It played out in the field.
It was very chippy, and I guess the security guy

(01:17:23):
wanted to get his licks in too, so that's it's
just part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I mean this, I did not know any I'm sorry
Eagles fans. I knew nothing about Big Dom and I
think that's kind of the whole goal for a security guy. Yes,
but I don't even I don't even know how he
ended up getting involved because it was almost as if
Greenlaw was going for anyone on the sidelines. So here's
Kyle Shanahan talking about what he saw from the opposing

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team sideline.

Speaker 11 (01:17:48):
Oh yeah, that's why I tried my hardest not to
lose my mind. Hopefully it embarrassed myself too bad. But yeah,
once I didn't get to see it all from where
I'm at, but when I start hearing people explain it
to me and stuff, and I just can't believe someone
on involved in a football game Kantana players like that
and put their hands in our guy's face. And from
what I was told, Drey did it back to him,
and I was told that he kind of mashed him

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in the face a little bit, so he got ejected.
But it was a it was a very frustrating play.
I got to watch it to have a true opinion
on it, but I loved how we rallied after it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Yeah, they rallied. But I don't know did did Big
Dom go at him first? Green Law?

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
I don't know who he said something. He said something
to him. I don't know if he actually put the
finger in his face the way that green Law did,
but he definitely said something to him, and it was
along the lines of, you know, green Law hit him
on the sideline, threw him down a little late, and
the security guy said something to him. So I don't
know if there was a physical component to that, but yes,

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he definitely said something first.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
It's kind of wild if you just look at the
final score of this game. Like I was talking about,
I watched the first quarter and then I promised my
kid I wouldn't be on my phone at her play.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
So that's a stand up guy. I cared about my daughter.
You know, she's nine. She was wanting to she was
the star of the show, hard least she thought she was.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
So Daddy was there and literally I could not be
more floored with that Niner team I saw from the
second quarter on that won forty two to nineteen, and obviously,
as you might imagine, Kyle Shanahan was pretty happy with
the way that his team stayed with it.

Speaker 11 (01:19:27):
That was huge, I mean just for us, and I
really feel like we were getting going with some of
the mistakes that we made, and to watch them get
going some of the explosives they made and just moving
the ball pretty well. But it was huge to hold
up to two field goals. And despite all that, the
third possession we got the ball, they scored twice, but
we were only down six and we just got one
drive together and got the lead back. So it was

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a huge deal in a very good feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Did I say we were going to move on to
other games, because real quick, I want to find I
want to kids. I'm just so infatuated with this game tonight,
in this performance.

Speaker 12 (01:19:57):
Here's Jalen Hurts always w that's always a mentality, that's
always the approach, you know, And I think this is
a moment where you go back and you reflect on it,
you learn from it, like every win, and you know,
you treat them all the same. You know, when you
win or when you lose, it's about what can I
learn from this?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Well, I mean he's not wrong, but they'll try to
get things right. Next Sunday night with the Dallas Cowboys. Boy,
that game suddenly becomes for first place in the NFC East.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Yes, and Dallas is going to win. They're going to
be tied for first place after next week.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Two of the biggest surprises in the NFL, I would say,
is Detroit in Houston. Now, I think people expected Detroit
to be good. I don't know if we thought they
would be this good. They beat the Saints. In fact,
they jumped out twenty one zip. A furious Saints rally
had them in position to take the lead. Derek Carr
got hurt once that happened. Well, by the way, I've

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watched a lot of Saints football this year, and I
understand that I am a Derek Carr apologist, but some
of you people see in Jameis Winston. I will never
understand that, dude. Every throw is a yolow play man Carrie,
I mean literally, it should never be made. He makes
it a game, right, car gets hurt, Carr gets hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Winston comes in the game and one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Of his first passes actually tips right off the hands
of a Lion's defender who probably should have picked it
and taken it to the house and land's right in
a lave's hand for a first in goal. It's the
wildest thing I've ever seen. But Detroit found a way
to maintain. Dan Campbell afterwards on how his team persevered, No.

Speaker 8 (01:21:35):
Whatn't idea. You don't always want it to be that way,
but my guy man to be able to hang in there,
and you know, they're able to come back and then
and we can we just answer back and then we're
able to close it out. I mean, it's it's a
hell of a win. Now, I'm not gonna take that
away from.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Us Detroit now looking forward, because that's what we do.
After their thirty three to twenty eight win over the Saints,
first time we've really gotten into this game today.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
They've got three very oneable games.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
They've got Chicago in Chicago next week, then they've got
Denver on Thursday night football, followed by Christmas Eve against
the Vikings. I mean, in fact, two of their final
three games are against the Vikings. So are you surprised
at how good this team has been?

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
No, no surprise here with the Lions, I thought they'd
be this good ninety three it's really really dang one good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
But yeah, I expected that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Houston is the team that I'm definitely, really really high
on and really proud of. I mean, those guys were
projected to win three games coming into the season, right,
and so they've doubled that already and some with with
a lot of football left to play. And I just
got to give a shout out real quick to the
head coach of the Texans, Dimico Ryans. He was my

(01:22:48):
high school teammate in Alabama, and he's just I knew
from day one he's gonna be a great coach and
he's he's living out his dream.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Man. He's doing so well. I mean, what a game
by where and everybody seen as that line.

Speaker 13 (01:23:03):
You talk about tackles for loss, you talk about sacks
putting pressure on the quarterback, like Will he wreck Havoc today,
And that's what so we envisioned when we selected Will
and to see him show up in a big time
game for us, show up really being an impact player
for us. That's who Will Anderson is and he shows
it every single day. So it really happy for Will

(01:23:25):
in the game that he's had, he had a big
time game for us. Calls the interception, one of the
interceptions that Stingle got. He calls the interception. So just
everybody playing together, right, everybody making plays, leaning on each other.
That's good defense.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Will Anderson five tackles, but two of those were sacks,
and both tackles for losses. Obviously when he caused the interception,
it was just a matter of time, right. But I
still when I watch this Texans team play, there's seven
and five and they're in a good spot to make
the playoffs. But and they have I guess now with
Cleveland and Joe Flacco as their quarterback, they could win

(01:24:02):
out just real quick. I hate to get carried away
with it, but Houston goes to the Jets, then they
go to Tennessee. They've got Cleveland at home, then they
get Tennessee again, then they go to Indy. I don't know,
if you watch Tennessee today, they're terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
That's a four and eight football team right now, so
they can make a run. But every time I watch Houston,
all I can think about is how everyone was clowning
them on Draft night.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
It was like, what are you even doing? Trading back up?

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Arizona's gonna have the one and two picks in the
draft because Houston's gonna be so terrible every draft expert
and then lo and behold.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
What do they do?

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
They go out and they're one of the most impressive
teams in the NFL this year. The crazy part about
that interview just hearing the Mitko speak. He's been so worldly.
He's been all over the place, and he still hasn't
lost that southern accent.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
So I'm just so proud of him. It sounds so good.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
But no, no, you're right though, I mean I didn't
know that was Houston's last five games. They definitely can
run the table. And I mean even in the games
that they've lost this year, I mean, they've been so
competitive in some of those they could have won as well.
So I mean it's it's looking like they may sneak
in here and get a playoff berth and they'll they'll
be a tough out. It's it's going to be interesting

(01:25:13):
to see what they can actually do now down the
stretch of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Just move on to the Tampa Bay game. Again, not
a game that we're going to spend a ton of
time time on, but we are going to spend some
time talking about Mike Evans, whom the Buccaneers decided before
the season that they weren't going to try to work
on a contract extension or they couldn't come to an agreement. Now,
by no means was it pretty today against the Tampa

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Bay against the Carolina Panthers. They won twenty one to eighteen,
but Mike Evans his tenth straight one thousand yard receiving season,
crazy one shy of the record held by Jerry Rice. Afterwards,
Todd Bowles talked about Mike Evans.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Oh, I guess this would help it by on me today.

Speaker 10 (01:25:55):
Years now, you know, over sixty catches, ten years in
the row, over a thousand yards. He is in a row,
and you know he's getting the ball and everybody's trying
to stop him, and he makes plays over and over.
It's a credit to him. His work ethic, the way
he approaches the game unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
He's something else. Who's Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans.

Speaker 14 (01:26:12):
I mean he's a special player obviously. I mean that's
off to him. He's done it so consistently for so long,
and that play is just an example of how special
he is. Just the thrown after the catch you know,
the ability to be exactly where he's supposed to be
on that route and then make obviously a huge play
after that. And so yeah, extremely happy for him. We
needed that, we needed it a little spark, and he

(01:26:32):
was the guy to bring it to us. And nobody
better than him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
By the way, I want to go back. The Texans
beat the Broncos twenty two to seventeen. We're bragging on
him and Will Anderson, and we forgot to make I
forgot to mention they won the game. The Buccaneers take
care of the Panthers twenty one to eighteen, and you know, again,
my team stinks. So I'm always thinking about the off season.
Mike Evans is going to be a hell of a
gift for somebody if indeed they can't come to a
contract agreement. I know he's getting a little bit older,

(01:26:58):
but when you're talking about ten eight years, over a
thousand yards, sixty catches, ten straight years, I mean, you're
telling me that he couldn't make a difference right now
to place like I don't know, Pittsburgh. You tell me
he couldn't help about camp. Could you imagine Mike Evans
in Kansas City right now? With Patrick Mahomes not having
the receiver help that he's not getting. Yeah, I think
he's going to be a big catch for someone. Yeah,

(01:27:19):
I think he'll be a definitely a pro. Right, A
guy that's going to come in and work. God, is
going to be consistent. I mean the proof is in
the putting. He's he's done this for ten years and
so I think what this speaks to more than anything
is just his consistency, him being available, because that's a
big deal. And then obviously on the field, I mean
he's a playmaker. He's a guy that you know, deep

(01:27:42):
ball threat that can make plays on the ball, jump ball,
big guy, and even as he gets older and loses
a step, he can also he can also play tight end.
He can play that little eight spac slot type receiver
and move inside and start working working as a little
pseudo tight end position.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
He's got he can play as long as he want.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
I don't have much from the colts thirty one to
twenty eight win over the Titans except to say it
ended up being a good football game. Two blocked punts
in this game from the Indianapolis Colts. Michael Pittman the
game when he touchdown catch. But do you want to
hear Bill Belichick after the six zip win by the Chargers.
I mean, you know he's not gonna answer anything.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
It's as long as he as long as he stays
as monotone as ever. Yeah, play it for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Okay, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie to you.
There was a part of me that thought I'd try
to save Bill Belichick tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
But as I get this cued up, are we watching
the end of him in New England? Is this it?
He's done?

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
It's crazy, right, I've said all along that I've pushed
back against the Bill Belichick is going to get fired
because if Bill Belichick is in say who is in life?

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Your job?

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
With what he's done? But the NFL is what have
you done for me lately? And Bill Belichick was asked
is it is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
It a lost season? Is it now season? In review times?

Speaker 11 (01:29:04):
What do you identify as maybe some of the missteps
you know that have contributed to the offense not producing
this season?

Speaker 15 (01:29:12):
I just I just answered that question.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Mine.

Speaker 15 (01:29:15):
I guess I'm trying to figure list In the season review,
we're talking about the game games just over happy to
talk about the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Game one more here on starting Bailey's appy, the decision
to start Bailey over Mack.

Speaker 15 (01:29:27):
I thought I deserved it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Was it something he did?

Speaker 13 (01:29:30):
Or do you feel his own Mac hasn't delivered on
what you were hoping to get.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Do you feel as though organizationally you've let Mac down
a little bit?

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
Third year, first round quarterback now on the bench.

Speaker 15 (01:29:43):
Yeah, it's hunt the best team we can out there
every week.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
That's him. I'm glad you made me play. That's that's good,
old Belly.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
You could tell that the reporter was amping up his
anger right when he was getting his one word answers.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Finally, it's like, did you let this guy down? You
screwed him?

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
It's your fought Bill Belichick sick zip and I won't
lie to you. I don't have much either from the
Falcons and the Jets, except Robert Salad said something in
his press conference that I don't think I've ever heard before,
where they were talking about trying to find a fourth guy.
Is like, oh, I don't I don't really know what

(01:30:25):
to do with the quarterback position, but.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
They still think they can win some games.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Here was Robert sala afterwards talking about the challenge for
the Jets going forward ball.

Speaker 15 (01:30:36):
At midfield in the NFL, you know, you get a
backed up opportunity now, or say, if you can keep
backed up and you and they pump the ball and
you feel it at the logo, you're supposed to score.
And we need to expect more from ourselves when we're
in those positions to go score.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
It doesn't happen. You're playing your third string quarterback and
he stinks. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
I if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I know he wants to
come back to prove people wrong carry Roads and just
for some reason, that seems to be the thing. I mean,
they're now sitting at four and eight. They're not going anywhere.
They just lost a game thirteen to eight. I know
that it was all exciting this week. Whenever Aaron Rodgers
he can start practicing, why in the world would he

(01:31:20):
try to rush back with his direst things are.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
In New York right now. He's already proved it. He's back.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
He does not need to get out there and play
behind that line and to play with those the weapons
that they have right now. They were overhyped coming into
the season, meaning the weapons, because I thought they had
more weapons I thought the weapons would be definitely viable options.
And you watch them play and they get no separation
the play call and has zero creativity. And so if

(01:31:48):
they can't block for those guys and they can't protect
Aaron Rodgers, he should not play a game this year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
He's already proved that he's back. I know we're up
against it. I want to hit a few more games
when we come back. Then we'll get into what we
learned in week thirteen and the Steelers fell apart. It
was an incredible performance by the Dolphins. We've got the
details coming up next with Carrie Rhodes. I'm Chris playing.
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Football Sunday Sunday Night Football with the way of the Packers.
Forty nine Ers sent a message today injury front not
good on Kenny Picket out two to four weeks. But
we did get the question on Twitter from our buddy
at all right from Jason B.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Diamond.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
He writes, did the Steelers season in today? Getting blown
out at home by the Cardinals? And Kenny they could
getting hurt, which means Mitchell Trubisky has to play two
to four games. I won't bet against coach Tomlin, but
it seems possible that it did. What do you think
carry road season over for the Steelers? It is over
for the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Yeah, I I never vote against my boy or go
against Mike Tomlin as well. I known him for a
long time. I mean ever since I've been in the league.
He recruited me coming out of college, so I've known
him for a while, and so I don't want to
say that, but they've been playing with fires so much
this year, and they've had some remarkable like comeback wins
in the fourth quarter and all those things, but it

(01:33:37):
just won't it won't equate to them actually making the
playoffs this year.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
It was not pretty today you had a good old
fashioned delay and then Kyler Murray and the Cardinals beat you.
Here is Mike Tomlin after Well, you know, that was
a horrible day at the office.

Speaker 16 (01:33:52):
We didn't do much right in that game, to be
quite honest with you, So we got to own that obviously,
starting first and foremost with me, just losing football really was.
You know, we're highly penalized, some pre snap penalties, some
operational penalties, bad snaps, just JV football in a lot
of ways.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Now, let me give you the yeah, but if you
try to end the Steeler season, they're still seven and five. Yeah,
and they're sitting in the fifth spot in the playoffs.
But keep this in mind. The teams at fifth, sixth,
and seventh in the playoffs, they're starting quarterbacks today. Well,

(01:34:34):
Kenny Picktt got hurt, but the quarterbacks who will start
next week in order are Mitch Trubisky, Joe Flacco, and
Gardner Minshew.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Gives credit to the team building right and how they
built their roster because they're able to for the most part,
persevere after injuries. But at some point we saw the
Browns get toasted today. Eventually it took a while, but
they got a by the Los Angeles Rams. I know
the Colts, they've got a very favorable schedule, so they
got a shot with Gardner Minshew. But I just I

(01:35:10):
don't know how the Steelers are going to be able
to do it with Mitch Trubisky going forward. I know
the Browns aren't going to be able to do it
with that going forward that they had today.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Well yeah, I mean you can't blame Flacco for that
when he Flacco actually played pretty well, pretty well. The
defense let him down today. But I think out of
those three you just named, I actually probably believe more
in Minshew moving forward.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
I mean i'd like I like him get back up.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
I like him as the backup anyway, but he always
seems to play good enough, you know what I mean.
And I think, like you said, they have a more
favorable schedule down the stretch, and yeah, I see them
staying in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Actually, yeah, while we were talking about the sixth and
seventh seeds in the NFC are both six and six.
Five six and seven in the AFC are seven and five,
And the team on the outside looking in right now,
if you want to play this game, is seven five
as well. I did like this on Twitter, and I'm
kind of mad that I didn't get to it a
little bit earlier, because I think when you start talking

(01:36:08):
about things we didn't see coming. I love this from Josh,
who hit us up and writes, I've been saying it
for a few weeks now. Week eighteen, Houston at Indy
is gonna be a pretty big game. Yeah, playoffs, possibly
coach of the year. Who would have thought that last
year it was draft positioning, this year playoff position.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Yeah, he's not wrong, is he? He is not wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
That game is gonna be huge, obviously, And man, the Colts.
I definitely did not see the Colts being a factor
at all either, And I definitely didn't see Houston, so
big ups to both of their franchises, and and and
actually I think Anthony Richardson I wish I could have
seen him play the rest of the year of this year,

(01:36:50):
because he's playing really well, really well in the beginning too.
So I think they both know that they have really
good players moving forward, and they and they probably draft correctly,
so that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Can I ask a really maybe too early of a
question to ask about the other side of that? Steelers game,
just because we haven't talked much Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, nor
probably should we. But is it possible because they're not
going to be at least with the way that they're
playing right now. I don't think they're going to be

(01:37:22):
in position to draft either Drake may or Caleb Williams.
Steve had brought up the NFL Tankathon big board right
now and your top five picks or the Bears, the Patriots,
the Cardinals, Washington and the Bears. But is maybe Kyler
Murray is showing that he can be that guy. I mean,
if you're Arizona, you're suddenly saying, if we're picking three

(01:37:43):
and four, can we go get us Michael Marvin Harrison
Junior or a big old offensive lineman to help him
out opposite Paris Johnson. I mean, are they making a
case to keep Kyler around?

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
You think if they're not the worst team and they
get the number one pick, you're not picking the quarterback
over Murray in this draft in my opinion anyway. So
I I mean, obviously he has some stuff that was
going on down the stretch, you know, the last couple
of years. I mean, but before that, when he was
healthy this dude's a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback. Yeah, he

(01:38:17):
can play the game. He can make big plays, he
can make this flast plays. Go out and get some
talent around him and move forward forward. If you're not
the number one pick and getting Caleb Williams none of
the other guys, I would take over him right now, No.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
I can since Big Ben mallor who's coming up next.
I can sense his disappointment coming through the radio right now.
The only other game we haven't brought up, just because
I was trying to spare you guys, at the very
least for one week. The Miami Dolphins use whatever phrase
you want, boat raced, destroyed, blowed out? What is our buddy?

(01:38:51):
Kevin Figures like to say, molly wopped. They absolutely throttled
Washington today. So, first of all, Mike Daniel on just
how good his Miami Dolphins have been.

Speaker 17 (01:39:03):
The connection between Tua and Tyreek, in terms of two
players playing together, is about as good as I've ever
been around. Hence, hence they're the the some of the
players they're able to make each and every week, and
then working together, they're they're finding, you know, two is
able to be super aggressive in certain windows. Because he

(01:39:26):
trusts what Tyreek's going to do. Tyreek's able to be
super aggressive because he trusts to his field vision and
knows that if he's putting a ball up in the
air a little bit over the middle, to just track
it and catch it, because that lead him in hard harms.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
What uh?

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
I think Tyreek Hill is going to start getting a
little MVP buzz when we realize the history that he's making.
But get this, the next two games for the Dolphins
versus the Titans versus the Jets, I mean, they're going
to be eleven and three, probably clinch the division by
that point, but they still wouldn't have a win over
a team with a winning record. Were you coming out

(01:40:07):
right now? Carry on, Miami. It's impressive today, right forty
five to fifteen, but impressive today. But they've been impressive
against bad teams all year though, So I don't think
the needle's been moved with me as far as how
good they are. I know they're good, but are they
Super Bowl good? Don't I don't have that?

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
I heard that, Yeah, yeah, it it hurt a little bit.
I'm not gonna lie, I said, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
I don't know if they're that good, and I don't
think anybody knows that if they're that good yet, but
the record says they're a really good team, and I'll
just keep it at that. They're a really good team
that can score a lot of points and they're getting
healthy on defense, and so we'll see. I'm I'm actually
excited to see what they can do in the playoff
game against a really another really good team.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
All right, when we come back, we'll get into what
we learned after week thirteen. But for one final time, tonight,
Steve the Seger comes strolling into the tyrack dot Com
studios with an update on everything in the world of sports.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
Well he literally does walked into it. It's timing, baby.

Speaker 6 (01:41:15):
We've got a lot of NFL to get to allow
me to say though. No NBA games today and just
the in season tournament quarterfinals coming up on Monday and Tuesday.
As for college hoops, Auburn was beaten at Appalachian State
Southern University with a late twelve oh run, won by
a point at number twenty one Mississippi State, Ohio State,
and hoops beat Minnesota. Clemson won at Pitt Virginia Tech

(01:41:38):
over Louisville ex manager Jim Leland was voted into the
Baseball Hall of Fame tonight. He got fifteen of sixteen
votes from a committee. The annual MLB Winter Meetings are
starting in Nashville. Seattle traded outfielder Jared Kelnick to Atlanta.
Scottie Scheffler was the golf winner in the Bahamas by
three strokes. Tiger Woods finished eighteenth out of twenty at
his Hero World Challenge. NHL wins Boston, LA and the Rangers.

(01:42:02):
As for the NFL you'd mentioned earlier, Mike Evans over
one thousand yards receiving again for the Bucks this year
each of his first ten seasons in the league. Rookie
wide receiver for the Rams, Puka Nakua has over one
thousand yards receiving this season in twelve games in his career.
He's at the same point his rookie season that Justin
Jefferson was in his that Randy Moss was in his

(01:42:25):
rookie year. Meanwhile, Keenan Allen of the Chargers over one
hundred receptions now this season for the fifth time in
his career one hundred catch season. They put up a
graphic that Brandon Marshall had six of these. Antonio Brown
had six different seasons with one hundred or more catches. Yes,
that was the Charger six nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
Win at New England.

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
We're talking about two field goals in the second quarter
and a lot of rain.

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
That's all you got.

Speaker 6 (01:42:51):
So the Patriots who've lost five in a row now
two and ten Thursday night, it's New England at Pittsburgh.
You mentioned Pittsburgh with the Kenny Pickett injury. There's a
report not only that with the ankle he's out two
to four weeks, but that he's due for surgery tomorrow.
Mitch Drubisky with one fumble late touchdown pass. So it
was a twenty four to ten Arizona victory amidst the

(01:43:11):
weather delays. The Cardinals were zero to six on the
road until today. And I must mention James Conner ex
of Pittsburgh from pitt had one hundred five yards rushing
and two touchdowns. If you miss the Jets game, okay,
fill in your own jokes thereout Atlanta. Atlanta beat the
Jets thirteen to eight. Jets have lost five in a row.
Three turnovers, eleven penalties. They scored their points on a

(01:43:35):
safety and two field goals. There were sixteen punts in
this game. The Jets running backs twenty two carries just
fifty one yards. There were six teams on a bye
this week. San Francisco was certainly not one of them.
We mentioned earlier. The Niners scored a touchdown on six
straight drives today. Only one other team in the past
decade in the league had a touchdown on six straight

(01:43:57):
drives in a game twenty nineteen Baltimore. Apparently that was
with the Ravens opener at Miami that year, when they
got out to a forty two to three lead in
the first half. With Lamar Jackson in company, Brock Party
four touchdown passes over three hundred yards through the air.
Niners won at forty two nineteen at Philadelphia against an
Eagles team that had been ten and one. Next Sunday

(01:44:19):
Night Philadelphia at Dallas. Deebo Samuel had three total touchdowns
in this game. Green Bay Tonight beat Kansas City twenty
seven nineteen. Jordan Love three touchdown passes, two to Christian Watson,
who left with an apparent hamstring injury. Rams beat Cleveland
thirty six nineteen. Matthew Stafford three touchdown passes. Joe Flacco
for the Browns two td passes. He had one interception,

(01:44:42):
one safety, and Cleveland's defense did not have a sack today.
Tampa Bay edge Carolina twenty one eighteen. Cuba Hubbard over
one hundred yards rushing two short touchdowns, but the Panthers
are one and eleven, each team with eight punts in
that one. Detroit nine and three after a win at
New Orlands thirty three to twenty eight. Jared Goff couple

(01:45:02):
of touchdown passes. Lions led at halftime twenty four to seven.
Chris Olave did play five catches one hundred and nineteen
yards in the loss. Miami's nine to three for the
first time in over twenty years. After dominating at Washington
forty five fifteen, I got to mention it again. The
Washington offense had eleven drives and eleven first downs. They've

(01:45:23):
lost four games in a row this season at home.
They are one and five. Houston beat Denver twenty two
to seventeen. Wide receiver Tank Dell suffered a broken leg.
Texans led thirteen to nothing late first half. Russell Wilson
of Denver had three interceptions, one touchdown pass one touchdown run.
Indy came back for an overtime win at Tennessee thirty
one to twenty eight. The Titans missed an extra point

(01:45:45):
kick with about five minutes to go. Dereck Henry one
hundred two yards rushing two first half touchdowns, Indy four
for four on field goals there, and they scored on
a block punt late third quarter. That's pretty key in
a game that goes overtime. And we had number one
ranked Michigan announced it will be facing Alabama in the
Rose Bowl semifinal, and then it'll be number two Washington

(01:46:08):
playing Texas in the Sugar Bowl on New Year's Night.
What about thirteen and oh Florida State ranked fifth, they
will play number six Georgia in the Orange Bowl December thirtieth.
December twenty ninth, Cotton Bowl has a top ten matchup
with Ohio State against Missouri this Saturday. There's one more
regular season game Army against Navy in five You're going
to Foxborough.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
I'm going to Foxboro this week. Wow, yeah, wow, a
lot of things. I've never been Army Navy. I've never
been to Boston, so this will be quite the experience
this week and I'm pump man.

Speaker 6 (01:46:37):
You know, except for all the rain in Foxborough today,
I am jealous. That would be a lot of fun,
all the pageantry. The First Bowl games are a couple
weeks away, Saturday, December sixteenth. Among the games that day
Ucla against Boise State in the LA Bowl in the
Rams Stadium. But the National semifinals are on New Year's
this year, and then the National Title game is a
week later, January eighth, in Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Back to you, thanks, Steve. Great job tonight, man, I'm
I'm pumped to get to actually hear a Steve update.

Speaker 6 (01:47:05):
This was this was fun. I'm not I'm not mentioning that,
you know, addition vice attraction.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
But wait, so break this down from you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
So how what happens when Steve is doing is breakdown normally?

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
Well, Arnie wants him to mention his kids hockey game. Yeah,
and then if he doesn't talk enough about the Dolphins,
he's in trouble.

Speaker 6 (01:47:24):
Or if you mentioned the stand about the forty nine
ers scoring on six straight drives, he'll.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
So argue that I don't think I don't think that's true, right,
I don't think that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:47:31):
To me and the people that took time, unlike you
to actually rock it out right right exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:47:36):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
By the way, I think the best tweet of the
night came in just under the radar here before our
final break of the show. Scotty, who I know, it's
been a frustrated Tennessee Valls fansh Scotty writes, and I don't.
I don't have an answer for this. I want to
understand how the Iowa Hawk guys had more punting yards
than total offense this season and still won ten games.

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
I can't wrap my mind around that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
It's worse.

Speaker 6 (01:48:04):
Actually, we brought this up on last night's show. Out
of the one hundred and thirty college football teams or
so at FBS, AP said that there are only two
that have more yards punting than yards of offense. Navy
has about seventy yards more punting, Iowa has one thousand
yards more punting.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
They have a thousand more yards. That's crazy. And they
played the big did championship.

Speaker 6 (01:48:31):
Game last Yeah, because divisions and ten years in a row, one,
you know, West versus East.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
It's just it's not good. But they actually hung in
the game too, Yes, and it wasn't a bad.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
I mean, I mean obviously end up being what twenty two,
twenty three nothing and whatever it was.

Speaker 6 (01:48:44):
But emphasis on the nothing. When that assistant coach is
yelling about the call and.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
You guys haven't scored a.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Point here, storing a point were they're going to be
the first to challenge that. Though, yeah, they're gonna win
a game zero to negative zero, something's gonna be crazy.
I don't get a lot of opportunities to watch games
with friends, right My wife has me on a very
very strict and no friends policy. So last night I

(01:49:12):
was and I these guys aren't gamblers, and I said,
you know, the points spread here in the first half
team total is point five.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
For Iowa, Like, what are you kidding me? Yes, it
was point five.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
So basically you were betting whether or not you thought
they would score, right, And at the end of the
first half, Iowa actually got the.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Ball and was moving.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
They were in Michigan territory and literally the quarterback missed
a wide open receiver and threw a pick. I mean,
we were in You would have thought, Carrie, you would
have thought, Steve, we had money on this game because
we just wanted to see if they were going to
get a point. They weren't field goal range too.

Speaker 6 (01:49:46):
For the whole game, Iowa had thirteen drives and seven
first downs in a conference championship game.

Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
The best stat might have been, aside from the punting.

Speaker 6 (01:49:54):
Yardage, right that Blake korm in that game had two
touchdown runs, which means he by himself has more touchdowns
than Iowa this year.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Unreal.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
All right, when we come back to stuff, Steve, we'll
put a wrap on this episode of Fox Sports Sunday
with some final thoughts and our Progressive Play the Day
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We check back in with Kerrie Rhodes high school teammate.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
Wilson gets the snap, Wilson, Chase Wilson escapes the Sacros.

Speaker 11 (01:50:33):
What's out of the end, So it's are accepted the
Texans habit, Jimmy Ward, Houston's gonna win.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Houston held on to beat Denver Demico Ryans has his
team at seven and five right in the thick of
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(01:51:02):
your protection in one place. Buddle and save it Progressive
dot Com. It's a great story, isn't it. It's the
best story right now. I mean, nobody expected this team
to be in this in this position, and I mean
even me. I mean as a loyal supporter to my
like I said, my high school teammates, you know, wanting
him to be successful.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
And before I.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
Even go into that leak, let me talk about him
and the type of guy he is. He literally flew
out his senior high school class to come to a
game last week in Houston and to you know, chake
out the facilities, get a tour of the whole city.
He did a bowling night with them that Friday night.
Just that's the type of guy he is. So to

(01:51:42):
get those guys that rally behind him and what he's
trying to get accomplished in Houston is just it's just
it's been remarkable.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
The rich friends that I went to school with don't
even do that. Come on, guys, get it together. Let's
go a couple of quick tweets. I mean before and
I want to get your take on Monday Night Football
before we hit it off to Big Ben Mallard.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
We've had this text.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
Or tweet excuse me in some form or fashion throughout
the show tonight. Sharon Guy said, I think Taylor Swift
has brought bad juju.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
To the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
Can't be a coincidence they're losing games, John Rights, I
know this after tonight's result at Lambeau Taylor Swift isn't
returning to Wisconsin anytime soon. Enjoy the fantastic postgame interview.
A security escorts are from Lambeau Field, and literally it's
some dude yelling like, hey Taylor, it's like every single
video you've ever seen of Taylor's swift walking. But I'll

(01:52:33):
come on now, we don't really believe that, all right, Carrie,
No way, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
I mean when they were winning and Steve what's jumping
up and down in the press box, we weren't saying that.
So now they've had a couple of games that you know,
have been going their way. She wasn't that all of them.
So you happened to be at this one and they
lost this one. But I'll give Green Bay the credit. Yeah,
they deserve it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Roger writes, the eye in the sky needs to be
able to overrule these whole horrible calls and non calls.
We can all see it a few seconds after the fact,
so can they. But we don't want it to get
over officiated anymore, do we.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
I'm all in on getting it right, but I do
know we don't want to break up the flow. It's
already some of those calls get lengthy, and some of
those uh looks in the looks at the at the
screen on the side. It's getting a little bit, a
little bit long.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
So yeah, it can mess up the flow for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
Yeah, you don't want to You want to be sitting
there the whole game. Oh, they're going to review this
once again. Uh bake rights, bakes here checks in and rights. Remember,
it's not a college Football Championship, guy, it's a TV
a Guys. It's a TV show called College Football Championship.
The most underrated part of the announcement today was legit

(01:53:50):
right before they announced Bama as for they go, which
they never do. They go, Kirk here, do you think
it's gonna be the fourth team? And it's almost as
if they let Kirk Kurve Street be the bearer of
bad news because he's like, I don't think Florida State's
getting in guys, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
I just I think the injuries too much.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
And then boom, it's it's Alabama that's there at the
four and then mister nobody right. So games don't matter
when it didn't this when it did in the year
both LSU and Alabama made it after the Tigers one,
nine to six in overtime. And how much do good
games really matter? Giving that Joe Georgia boat race Michigan
and TCU to win the last two titles. That was

(01:54:28):
one thing from today that I thought was incredibly made
up and hilarious that suddenly they start saying, well, I
think it's gonna make for a better game.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
Never heard that before the playoff committee. Carrie.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
It's crazy, That's what I'm saying, Like, no real consistency.
So we just we're just along for the ride, that's all.
I just want to watch good football, Kerry Roads. This
has been a blast. I gotta pick on Monday night
football for the Bengals Jaguars. So you think wins, oh,
Jack jacksonbil wins that one by by ten points.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
All I need total fantasy dort, a good night from
Jamar Chase, and I'm happy. Uh, we gotta do this
more often, Carrie, have a great week, man. It's it's
a big week coming up. We've got the transfer Portal
that's opening college football, so you'll hear about guys going
everywhere in the new version of college football free agency.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
Oh and we got an Army Navy coming here. You go.
Have fun, man, have a great rest of your week.
Ben Mallories next on Fox Sports Radio.

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