Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes talk college ball and Caitlin Clark!

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Some Sunday fun, Yukon and Purdue having fun in the
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Tellreq dot com the way tire buying should be. Iowa
and South Carolina playing their women's national championship at three
o'clock Eastern time. You know how I knew that? Carry roads?
How did you? Because last year I thought it was
at night when LSU and Iowa were playing, and then
all of a sudden I turned the channel and I
just happened upon the game as it was just starting

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at around for us on the West coast, around noon,
and I'm like, geez, I thought this thing was like
at five o'clock at night. No, it's an afternoon. It's
on network TV. Iowa and South Carolina will have our attention.
We'll get into that obviously, Caitlin Clark's always a discussion.
But we are coming off of a national semi final
night in the final four where Chalk held the top

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seeds did their work. Purdue takes care of NC State,
Yukon runs away from Alabama at the end, and here
we are with the two number one seeds in the
final four. The top overall seed in Yukon Purdue is
actually the third overall. But let's not ruin a good story.
We've said that they were probably the two best teams

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in college basketball throughout the season, and now they meet
for a national championship. It really doesn't get better than that.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's funny how it always seems to work out right sure,
through all the chaos, through all the upsets, through all
the talk throughout the tournament, which makes it fun. Most
of the time, the top teams are going to make
it to the national championship game. So it's good to
see great matchup two bigs that are really good eating
and klinging. You got a supporting cast on both teams

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that you know, I would probably get the ads to
Yukon and supporting cast, but Purdue, there are no slouts
on that side either.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
And it's going to be a fun game. I think
Yukon is going to crush Purdue once you do. But
that is just that is just me. But that's not
even that's that the grenader I did. I just I
felt like I needed to say it three minutes into
the show, and I think, I don't know if that's
the prevailing thought, but it's part of this bigger picture
because I mentioned the women's game that we have coming

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up later this afternoon, and I still think that has
everyone's attention. You think so, No, I was just I
just think the people have been waiting for this in
time and time again, whether it be Monday night against LSU,
whether it be Friday night against Connecticut. This Iowa team
and Caitlyn Clark always deliver. And I know that Caitlyn

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Clark didn't ever greatest, greatest game against Yukon, but boy
did that drama deliver and the numbers showed it. We
found out the TV ratings were the most watched basketball
game in ESPN history, like men's women's NBA really most
watched basketball game in ESPN's history, with over fourteen million.

(03:07):
The game is going to be on Network TV, It's
going to be on ABC today, and I still think
that the success of that women's game has overshadowed what's
going on in the men's tournament. And it's crazy. It's
the I know there's no empathy or sympathy, but the
guys can't catch a break here. Like just when you

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think you have it's set up perfectly carry it. A week ago,
we were on the verge of having Yukon, Alabama, Purdue,
and Duke in the final four, like you'd have two
top teams, you'd have Duke Alabama, big program, fun team
to watch, like that is a really really good final four,

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and I felt people just really didn't care. They're more
worried about what LSU and Iowa we're going to do.
And now you have a scenario here where I just
get the sense, and I don't know if you get
the sense or not, but with tomorrow's National championship game,
I just still think that people care more about what's
gonna happen this afternoon than what's gonna happen in the

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men's tournament, when when we have probably the best matchup
that you could possibly dream of in the men's tournament.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, we're we're prisoners of moment of the moment rights,
that's our society, that's who we are as humans right now.
Like whatever the hot topic is, whatever the story is,
it's gonna take it's gonna take the lead for us.
And that's what it is. Right not to say the
product of the women's game isn't exciting this year, because
it really is. I mean, you're you're really dialed in
to watch and see what happens. But is it more

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about the basketball or is it more about the storylines?
And I think that's the issue with me when I
watch it. So I'm a basketball peurist. I love basketball
to the full list, my favorite it's my favorite sport. Yeah,
And so I've noted a history. I've seen it all.
I've seen the years when Yukon were dominant on the
women's side, and you had the Tennessee's and you had
you know, the Stanfords, and you had all these you know,

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these big time women program that were always good and
had great players, but we didn't care about them.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Caitlyn Clark's exceptional.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
One of the best players we've ever seen on the
women's side of the women's side of basketball. But is
she better than Diana Tarassi, which we I mean, who's
been in the news about certain things recently, like is
she better than her? I don't think so, but in
this era of appreciating the game a little bit differently,
I mean, she's on a pedestal where we've never seen before,
so it's exciting to see. But I don't know if

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that translates as a game being better better than the
men's right now or not. I just think it's the
story in Kitlyn Clark and what it represents right now.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Do you draw parallels to Steph Curry's emergence as a
superstar to Kaitlyn Clark's. Sure, yeah, I do too, and
I think that I think many people do. And I
also actually find some of the backlash that she gets
as similar to what Curry got and people trying to
really accept the type of game that it was, and

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then Steph needing to prove, And honestly, I think that
there are still people feel that, you know, Steph still
has stuff to prove, which is pretty absurd because you
get Kevin Durant and it's like, well you won with
Kevin Durant and you know, okay, well Kevin Durant left.
Then everybody went through their injuries and he came back,
and you want another one. But there always feels like
there's there's something to prove. And I think that there's
people that feel that Keaitland Clark needs to win it

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all this afternoon to be that best player. They've asked
other players. Daunce Daily, the opposing head coach, was asked
about it Brianna Stewart, who many feel is the greatest
women's player, you know, in their history. She said the
same thing. So there's still a lot going against Kaitlin Clark.
But I would also argue this that I think that

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there's a lot going against the men's game, and from
last night, I still just can't get over if you
and I three plus weeks ago, when the brackets come out,
three weeks ago and the brackets come out, we write down,
all right, this is who we want in the final four,
this is who we want in the championship game. That
it's come to its fruition and we still don't care.

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And I think it's to your point about the storyline
of it all. For as great as Yukon is, for
as great as Purdue and Zach edr there's just never
been that storyline and I actually felt bad for the
men's game last night because you had two teams. The
games weren't great last night in terms of drama. I

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think that Yukon at times showed how great they can be.
And they did that and they're thirty nothing run against
Illinois and they did it in you know, spurts last
night against Alabama. But that's not going to keep you
in and that's not necessarily going to draw you in.
And I've hated that the games are on TBS. I
think they should all be on CBS. I get the
whole media deal, But in a way, Carrie, I felt
bad because I feel like the men's game inadvertently has

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taken such heat this year because of what they aren't
and for what the women's game has provided. Like it's
not a it's not a what is it?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Is?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
It?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
High tide lifts all boats. The women's game has risen
in every opportunity to criticize the men's game has come about,
and now here the men's game. It's the best case scenario.
And again I think more people really are just care
about what's happening today and won't really give a bleep
about what's happening tomorrow unless they're still in their bracket pool.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, the men's game has taken a fundamental hit because
of obviously there's no real allegiance to the universities anymore
for the players, right and our in the golden day.
In the golden day for us with collegiate basketball, you
fell in love with the universities. First the players came along,
and most of those players are going to stay around

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for a couple of years, and so then you fell
in love with those players as well. There's no loyalty
there anymore. There's flexibility for the players to go out
and test the waters and transfer year to year, and
so good for them having the opportunity to opportunity to
do that. But it hurts the game because if you're
not invested in the university anymore, which I mean we're

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grown men now, were agent, we kind of lose that
allegiance to the university and you want to see players
do well at that university. But if they're not staying there,
then that means you're rooting for players that are going
to different teams in situations. So it's not as die
hard like I'm a die hard Duke fan, is not
that anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
You know, yeah, I think I think local markets still
have that. Like obviously, Purdue fans have been waiting for
a for a Final Four forever. But if you, you know,
are a casual basketball fan, you're won. On a national level,
I don't think Zach Edy brings you in to watch
every single week, even if he's the national player of
the year. I have said of Zach Edy was launching

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thirty seven foot threes like Caitlyn Clark, like Steph Curry.
I think that Perdue would be that story. We've seen
it before. Trey Young was an example that you know,
we've brought up on this network and just on when
he was at Oklahoma, the buzz that he caused, and
they weren't even that good, right, you know, like like
there was there was a buzz about it. And having

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your best player in college basketball be seven to three
and camping out two feet from the basket just isn't good.
It's not good for the NBA in terms of how
we look at Jokich. For as great as Yokich is,
and it's maybe not the best example because there is
range in his game, but there is something about guard play,
the center play in NBA history is littered with absolute greats,

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but centers have never really captured the imagination like a guard.
Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
And it just even Steph Curry again, Yeah, it was
that Davison, right, so the run that he had. But
I think with collegiate basketball, the thing that you'll find
as dominant as the big men can be in certain
situations like Nedie right, he's still what he's He's been
the best player in this tournament. He's averaging twenty and ten,
which is whatever, it's great, it's beautiful, but the guard

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play is still going to be the way that you're
going to win the game. So it's going to be
it's going to be predicated off of that. I mean
exactly what you're saying. The guard play is going to
win the national championship, right, Santras are gonna They're gonna
do their thing, but the guards have to get them
the ball, the guards gotta make shots, they got to
run the show.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
So it's still the guard guard driven league always there,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Lance Jones was actually probably the biggest boilermaker that there
was because of his ability to hit threes, and he
hit a huge three when they were playing in the
in their game against Tennessee in the regional final. I
do have some good news. I do have some good
news I made. I made a list of I made
a list of things for the men's game that that
is good. I also have a list of bad news.

(11:32):
So I'll quick give you the bad news first. I
don't know how the men's game tops this, Okay, I
don't know how you can top Yukon Purdue. I think
you just need that individual superstar. Maybe it's Cooper Flagg,
who's coming in the freshman that's going to be at
Duke next year. Maybe he's the one that has that
Zion sort of effect. But I just don't know, Like

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if you were again this isn't the three seed against
the four seed, or like last year when you had
Yukon go on their run where you really weren't paying
attention to Yukon and all of a sudden they're playing
San Diego State in the final, which nobody saw coming.
This is one versus one with the top two teams
that we've seen throughout the country. I don't know how
they top this. I also feel that the momentum of

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the women's game while it won't be at this peak,
has made taken steps forward and that will continue to happen.
I don't think there's going to be a Kaitlyn Clark.
I expect some regression a little with the women's game
next year. Yeah, but we've seen how the high tide
again lifts all boats in the women's game. Caitlin Clark
brings up Paige Beckers, brings up Juju Watkins, brings up

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Hannah Hidalgo, all these other players. I think that the
women's game will be stronger, so the men are going
to have to compete with that. Here's the good news.
I do think nil will play a difference. I do
think if you have players that are worth keeping in
college that now you have a little bit more of
an opportunity to do so. The lure of the NBA

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is always probably going to win out, but I feel
like you have more of a fighting chance than you
did ten years ago, and keeping somebody on campus, especially
if they're a borderline first round pick and a great
college player, there may be reason for them to stick
around a little bit longer. For sure. Here's another good
news tidbit. Caitlin Clark's going to be in the WNBA,
So like for the progress that at least that the

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women's game is going to make, you're not going to
have that head, that super duper star to grab the attention.
So maybe you get a little breathing room without Caitlin
Clark dominating everything and the other thing. And I don't know,
I'm curious and your thoughts on this is if Ukun
wins tomorrow, are they now the story because it was

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basically a completely different team from a year ago. A
couple of pieces still there. But now you've won back
to back tournaments, You've got a head coach that people
are starting to get to know and get to know
a lot better. You go through these dominant runs. I
think that Yukon going for that three peat, going for
another championship, trying to do something that you know, we

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haven't seen in a long long time. I think that
is good for the men's game. If you kind of
can get it done tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
That would be good for the game. I don't think
it's going to happen. I'm actually against you on you
think is going to win. I think Purdue is gonna win,
and u Con is a better team. I think overall,
for sure. Purdue has that Virginia dust on them right now.
They lost They lost that one seed to the sixteen
seed a year ago, complete failure, and we know that

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in this tournament you have to go through those failures,
you have to go through those moments. Zachar ed player
of the year last year, didn't do anything in that
in that game last year. I can't remember who they
lost to, but Billy Diggs sixteen seed.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
They come back.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
They have a little scare early in that first sixteen game,
which always happens because you think history's gonna repeat it.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Bubble guts, Yeah, you know, they end up handling business.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
They get through it, They get all the way through now,
they hear it at the championship game. I just I
really feel it's Purdue's time, and I think the story
of that, even though I love your story about having
a chance to three peop which would be awesome, I
just feel the redemption story always prevails in our time
and it's one of those things that I think if

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Purdue wins, the story will be big on that and
Edie will have a chance to ride out into the
sunset and hopefully get picked in the draft, and then
we get to see that. But I think Purdue's got
a chance to win this some and I think they will.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
If that's the case, I would put that in the
bad news. Then then would stop all momentum for the
men's game to continue this because Edie then would be
gone and here's Purdue and they're not necessarily the same team.
I'll say this about Purdue. I felt last night they
were destined to win, not because they were gonna play
NC State, but like Gonzaga, when we saw when Gonzega

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couldn't make it to a final four, they ended up
making it to the title game when they actually did,
And I felt that that Prdue's hurdle was to get
to the final four, and not that yesterday was gravy,
But I felt like some of the pressure was off
so they could play a little bit, you know, looser,
that they would feel a bit more comfortable despite being

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in the big stage that they were. And sorry, I
know NC State won nine in a row and they
tried to convince this that it wasn't the same team
that was seventeen and fourteen. Still would rather play NC
State than Alabama, you know, in that national semi final.
But I thought that that yesterday, I didn't feel that
Purdue was feeling the pressure because I felt like they got,
you know, the monkey off of their back by beating

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Tennessee to just get to the final four. I'm now
curious on how they respond in a game with all
the marbles.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
The crazy part is if the games were switched yesterday,
Alabama beats Purdue.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
But it's all about matchups. Sure, it's all about matchups.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I don't think Purdue would have been able to take
the punches that Alabama gave Yukon yesterday. But again, the
one game situation this week tomorrow. I mean, I just
zachiat he's better than Clinging, and not by much. He's
Clinging's really good, and I think that advantage being able
to slow down the tempo just a little bit to
get Yukon in the game. That's more half court with

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the best player on the court. But Due has a
chance to win this one. Do you think that there's
a light at the end of the tunnel for the
men's game.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I do. I think that.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think what you said earlier about Cooper Flag coming
back to Duke that gives I mean, this Duke class
that's coming in this year crazy. And if they get
the big seven to one guy, come on as well.
He's committed, but he's just a hard committee hasn't signed.
If they get him, those two guys are a legit

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lottery picks. And it reminds me of those the Zion
R J Camra years. And so you know, when when
Duke's really good, that helps the game because they're so
hated and so loved. Sure that that brings attention back
to the game. But stuff like that, I think they
have a chance to come.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I think it's I think it's a really good points
no disrespect as I'm about to disrespect Produe Yukon and Houston.
But it is different when the top three teams in
the country are Kentucky, Kansas and Duke, like there is
there is a different feel to it. And I'm just
wondering if Yukon can cross into that threshold if they
were to win again, are they now Are they now

(18:21):
entering that threshold where we consider them all here's Yukon again,
because honestly, their resume, I was just about to say, yes,
you know, respects it, Yeah, like deserves it. I think
that that's the question. I just I just kind of
felt sorry for the guys last night. I did like,
I'm like, this is a huge story. It can't get
any better, and all anybody cares about is what's going
to happen today at three Eastern time. By the way,

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deservedly so. I mean, the women deserve their props, but
all our eyes are going to be on Iowa and
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Yeah, I'm up there. I'm creeping to the top. I
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Your champ is out, That's what I'm saying. All Right,
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But let's go to Isaac Low and Cron who's giving
us the latest on what is championship Sunday in women's
basketball and so much more. What's going on Isaac, indeed,
Dan and Carrie and so much more.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
Include some fresh NFL news on this Sunday, New England
Patriots safety Kyle Dugger agreeing to a four year, fifty
eight million dollar extension. At the men's final four Saturday night,
Yukon topped Alabama eighty six to seventy two. Freshman Stefan
Castle scored twenty one Donovan Klingen added eighteen points and
four blocks. It'll be you Caught against Perdue for the

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men's National Championship Monday night after their sixty three to
fifty win over NC State Produce. Zach Eedy played all
forty minutes, finishing with twenty points, twelve rebounds, four assists,
and two blocks. Women's National Championship game tips off today
at three pm Easter in between Iowa and South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
With that in mind, the.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Contrast between the men's tournament and the women's tournament this year,
of course, been a big topic of conversation that even
extended to the opening of Saturday Night Live with the
takeoff of Ernie Johnson, Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley's postgame
show Last night.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Fellows initial reactions to what we saw in the court tonight.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
D Can I be real?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Wichard?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I didn't watch it.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
Either.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
You know, it's just hard to get excited when there's better.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Games on or you mean the NBA the.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Women's turn to me, its soil catering.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
I got so come in to okay final, Let's just
get it out the way.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, the men's final. It is Monday, is I believe
between equiment at College versus Northern Southern State. Neither of
those are real schools.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's actually Purdue Connecticut's right.

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Speaker 2 (23:11):
Dan, here's my problem with it. And honestly, I saw
that skit lived as in the East Coast feed. My
wife likes SNL sol it was on That's a Good Life,
by the way Harry is and and I thought that
they were catering for cheers, like we know. This is
where I felt like the men's tournament ended up being

(23:34):
the butt of the jokes. But I felt like they
were doing the jokes for the cheers. And I have
no I have no issue whatsoever with I watched the
national semifinals of the women's tournament, I watched the Elite eight,
I've watched all these games. I felt though that they
were trying to cater to the crowd. Well, you know, yeah,
taking shots at the men's game, a little gut punts.

(23:55):
But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
It's so like it's pop culture now and when it
gets to that point for me, I know, it's about
the storyline, you know what I mean. The game is
the game, and the games and the men's side have
been good as well, and it's just.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I hate it. I hate that and their joke, their
joke about whatever whatever college is. Yeah, I thought they
were That's what I thought. I thought they were. Yeah,
But I'm like, we have Yukona pernew like they're both
number one seeds. That's pretty good. It's not a who's
this and who's that.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yukon has won a bunch of national championships. This isn't
some team that's buying forwards. First one. This is a
good thing.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
They did have. Uh gosh is it? And I forget
Heidi Gardner is that she did the Kim Malky. She
actually did Kim Malky. So that was there making fun
of Kim Malky.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Oh, I want to hear that one. I want to
see that one. Was that a good one? It was
part of the bit later on she had one of
the flashy jackets. But uh, but here's here's the other
part about the men's term and then we'll get to
the n CUB. But since Isaac that I don't think
that the like the men's game hasn't been high on

(25:06):
their hog for the last ten to fifteen years, outside
of maybe the Zion year. I think we would look
at college men's college basketball in a way because all
of the best players were either were wanting donees and
then just leaving for the NBAH. So as a college
basketball fan and someone who's always enjoyed men's college basketball,

(25:30):
and I don't even admit it waned a little bit
for me at one point and now has comeback. But
it's not like that the men's game was.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Thriving, thriving on a level where you could sit there
and make fun of them and be untouchable. Like I
felt like there are issues within the men's game and
now we're sitting there taking more shots at them because
maybe it's not as good as the women's and I
just don't I don't think that that. I don't like that.
I don't like that as a as a lifelong fan
of men's college basketball, I think it's awesome that the

(25:58):
women's game, but it's not like the mens game was
super super healthy to be able to be picked on
and poked at and said this is wrong. Obviously changes
needed to be made, but it's not like like when
we make fun of the NFL. We know that the
NFL is the top dog and there's nothing that really
can do with it. Like there are issues with the
men's game, and even when it's good, like pretty and

(26:19):
Yukon playing in the National Championship, we don't care. And
I kind of feel that's a bit of a problem.
So that's why I think it's stinks. Dan.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Do you think it's more peripheral challenges with the game
or you think the game itself, like the product is bad?
Because I think that's the real question for me. I
mean there's you know, I guess pre existing things that
happened with the game as far as like I said,
the NIL team guys moving, there no loyalty from you know,
organization to player, coach whatever that whatever that pot stands from,

(26:48):
you know, that big pot that conglomorate. Or do you
think it's bad basketball? Like what do you think? I
think that the basketball is good? And I think if
you watch you con you know, you watch something what
Dan Hurley's doing on out of bounds plays right is great.
What I think hurt the college game was the one

(27:11):
and done's when everybody was leaving, Like, realistically, maybe six
kids should should leave after one year of college, realistically,
like for how good they are. But instead, I don't know,
maybe you have twenty thirty kids into the draft, which
really took a hit from college basketball. And even when
there wasn't a you know, a one and done, maybe

(27:34):
you had more of an opportunity for guys to stay.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
The problem to stay longer. The problem is now I
think guys who are twenty two and twenty three years
old get looked at as maybe being I don't want
to say past their prime. But you'd much rather take
the unknown of an eighteen or nineteen twenty year old
kid where you think that he could become something, than
to take someone who spent three or four years in

(27:57):
college and it's kind of maxed out. And that's sort
I think is a huge problem with the game of
h and where it's hurt the men's game. That's a
great point. I talk about that a lot.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
There's this notion that you draft potential, but when I
see guys like the three year four year guys that
go to the league, they're already league ready, and those
are gonna be the team. Those are gonna be the
guys that go to your team, and they're gonna be
if they're not, if they don't break out and be superstars,

(28:30):
they're going to be key rotational pieces for you to
win championships in that league. I mean it's just a
gibven sure. I mean you have your guys like I
go back to those Villanova great teams with Jay Wright
and obviously Jalen Bronson has become a superstar, but in Dallas,
in his first stint there, he was a role player,
really good. One thought he'd be, you know, a backup
point guard forever and be somebody to be a key piece.

(28:52):
Goes to a different situation where it's his team and
now he's a superstar. The kid has he learns, he
knows how to win. He was coach well, plays basketball well.
Even on that same team, you had Bridges, who is
another guy that you'll have as a key rotational piece
on a championship team here eventually. I know he's with
the Nets now, but he won't be there for long.

(29:13):
Even on that same team, you have Josh Hart. All
these guys who stayed in school for three years at
minimum go to the league and they're ready to play.
Then you draft these guys off potential. Let's say a
Cam Reddish who obviously he looks like he should be
the next prominent superstar in the league bodybuild, can hand,
look and shoot, and never really panned out because he

(29:35):
didn't get the time or spend more time in college,
which he probably should have. Yes, just that idea, So
I agree with you on that point. But also there's
one more thing about the advanced age in college. I
think they need to do away with the super super seniors.
I think that's hurting the game as well, because you're
getting these guys are a grown man playing kids, and

(29:55):
so obviously in a street fight in one game, those
older guys not be better, but they can beat you
in that game.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yes, what was this? That was it Houston's lineup that
was older than or that was basically the same age
as Oklahoma Cities. I think it was one. Yeah, it
was one of those where it was it was the parallel.
I just you know, and I'm so glad that Isaac
played that clip because that was part of as I
was thinking last night, I'm like, it's not like the

(30:23):
men's game has been thriving. It's not like it's been
this juggernaut and all of a sudden it gets it,
you know, and it's been barreling over now. Maybe in
the grand scheme of things, the men's game has overshadowed
the women's game for so long, and that's also where
like some of this comes. But it's just also been
such a great story for the women's game to get
the notoriety. But I just I don't think that the
men's game has been thriving, thriving to take this sort

(30:46):
of heat that it has gotten.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
There.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
There are a lot of problems. There have been a
lot of problems, and maybe some of those things are
getting better. I think NIL can help. I also think regionally,
I think regionally Kentucky always cares about Kentucky, like there's
no doubt. Like they lose to Oakland, it's probably a
bigger deal than if they would have made the Sweet sixteen.
Because now you're wondering what's happening with cal Like everything
in Big Blue you know, Nation is going crazy, Same

(31:09):
thing with Kansas, you know, same thing. You know, Yukon
is probably a bad example. But you know, even UCLA
and their fan base out here of them not making
the tournament, Like, there's still fans that want to know
what's going on, and the transfer portal is something to
keep them interested. I just don't think that as an
overall thing for people who move in and out of
college basketball. You know, they'll watch the NBA, then they'll

(31:31):
maybe slide out because there's another sport. I think we've
lost some of those fans, and I think that's where
college basketball is really really taking a hit. And so
that's why maybe I get a little defensive when we
come to criticizing the game.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, just give the props to the ladies. They're playing
well and it's fully deserved. It don't have to best
the guys though, and in turn for them to seem
more incredible.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yes, yes, because I don't think it's as healthy, you know,
as maybe it seems on the surface. All Right, he's
Carrier Roads. I'm Dan. I want to get Carry's thoughts
on Stefan Diggs. He's no longer a member of the
Buffalo Bills. He's now a member of the Houston Texans,
but as a new funky contract to go with it,
hit him up at Carrie twenty five Roads. You got
me at Dan Byron Fox. That's next year on Fox
Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday. He's Carrier Roads the NFL VET.

(32:17):
I'm Dan Byer, getting you set for a great Sunday
that includes a national championship handed out in women's basketball
a little over the two hours away from now Iowa
in South Carolina. I don't think many people realize on
just how much of a revenge factor this is South Carolina.
Not only last year were they trying to go back

(32:38):
to back, they were upset by Iowa. And now this
year you try to complete your undefeated season and guess
what you got The team that beat you last year
in the national semifinals, you get them in the title game.
So much of the conversation is about Caitlin Clark and
coming up in about twelve minutes or so, make it
thirteen minutes, I'll tell you why Caitlin Clark's actually underrated,

(33:00):
but we don't talk about South Carolina in their possible
date with history. Should be a great, great watch. And
even though I thought on Monday that the LSU Iowa
TV ratings were going to be the highest that we
would see, that was incorrect because they were topped on
Friday night with Yukon and Iowa, and we expect the
game today to break that record that was just set

(33:23):
on Friday. He is carry Rhodes. Hit him up at
Carrie twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan
Byer on Fox. A big trade shook up the NFL
earlier this week, with the Houston Texans and Buffalo Bills
doing a deal. And I don't know if we should
be surprised surprised that the Bills ended up doing this deal,
but still there is a bit of a shock when

(33:43):
you take about thirty million dollars in dead cap money
and you trade a wr one a way, especially when
you're trying to compete for the Super Bowl. But that's
exactly what the Buffalo Bills did, sending him to the
Houston Texans in a swap that essentially is two a
second round pick in twenty twenty five. Even Bill's GM

(34:03):
Brandon Bean admitted that he doesn't know if they're a
better football team now than they were before they did
the trade. They're not going to have this pick coming
up in this year's draft, as I mentioned, It's gonna
be in the year following. But how surprised were you
carry that the Buffalo Bills finally moved on from Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
No surprise, No surprise in Carrie here. I thought this
was going to happen last year, and I think it
was a year too late for me. I think he
was a guy that obviously wasn't happy in his role there.
There was rumblings after the season. Obviously they did a
good job of keeping it in house, you know of
him and Josh Allen having you know, very heated conversations

(34:44):
after losses, and I mean early in the season, like
wek want, like having these heated conversations about not getting
the ball and not getting touches.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
So I mean it was inevitable.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I think for Josh Allen this is actually going to
be a better situation for him once they can get
some more players and to help him. And I think
it's gonna be a better situation for dates as well,
because he goes into situations, new situations, and he allows
those things that usually take place, and he's as a
model citizen usually and he's going to play well.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's when you look back at the history and Tim
Graham of The Athletic did a great job and pointing
out on all these little things, and it may not
seem little when you're talking about a quarterback and a
wide receiver having arguments, but it just felt like, all right,
there was the training camp episode, there was what Diggs
was doing after the loss to the Bengals couple of
years ago in the playoffs, and you have all of

(35:37):
these things end up brewing social media, what Digs his
family is saying, and Tim outlined like all these things
and then you add them up and you're like, wow,
he has a major problem with us, you know, or
for us right now. So that's why you also take
the hit of thirty one million dollars in dead cap
money to make the situation better. Do you think that

(35:57):
the Bills are going to be better without Stefan Diggs
talent wise? I think it's tough to argue that they are.
But could the substraction of him make that team better
than they were just because his presence is not there?
The subtraction of.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Him, if they add a few more pieces to help
them to help their quarterback out, yes, I mean when
you have and I'm not going to call them a
cancer in the locker room. I don't know the situation
that well, but when you have a situation where your
star players aren't seeing eye to eye, that's going to
affect the tam It's just it is what it is.
So if you remove if you remove one of those

(36:37):
problems and you don't have that problem, essentially, yes, you
can be in a healthier place. And we're gonna finally
get to see I feel Josh Allen's real worth with
that team. Obviously we know how good he is, but
he's going to have a chance to now show that
he can bring other players up to his level and play,
and that's the true sign of a true winning quarterback

(36:59):
in our league. So I'm excited to see that.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, And I think when you look at what the
Bills were in the second half of last season, yes,
and in the second half of last season is when
Stefan Stefan Diggs's numbers significantly dropped. They went a different direction.
I think the emergence of Dalton Kincaid, the first round
pick last year, of him being a viable target. Now,
if you have him and Dawson Knox, you're obviously going

(37:22):
to need someone on the outside. They did bring in
Curtis Samuel, However, you also lost Gabe Davis. You let
him go, I shouldn't say you also lost, because it
felt like Gabe Davis knew that he wasn't going to
be back in Buffalo anyway. So Buffalo may have had
this plan. You wonder if they're going to do something
in the draft in terms of another weapon. But they
were a better team without Diggs's production in the second

(37:45):
half of the season. And while I don't think you
can have Josh Allen to run around everywhere and be
everything for the next ten years and just don't think
that's sustainable. I do think I am with you. I
think that they will be a better team without Stefan
Diggs in that locker ro.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
The only thing I do wonder is if they knew
that they were going to I mean, I'm sure they
had a plan in place, but if they were going
to actually execute that plan and get you get off
of Stefan Diggs, I wonder if they would have kept
Gabe Davis In hindsight. I don't know if that's the case,
but I would have kept Gabe Davis in that situation
if Stefan Diggs was leaving.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
It's interesting that one other point that Chris Simms said
that the Bills allowed Diggs to look for trade partners
and his reps, and the only team that they were
to block a trade to would be Kansas City. And
we're not going to do in trade all the Kansas
City Chiefs and put Stefan Diggs there. But then you
wonder from the Texans perspective, honestly, that was my kind

(38:42):
of question. If you have a quarterback, if you have
a wide receiver that's not happy about getting the football
from his quarterback. In Buffalo when Stefan Diggs was by
far and away the clear number one. Now you go
to Houston, where Nico Collins and Tank Dell were coming
off of seasons where they were very very strong seasons,
even with Dell getting hurt. How does that fit in?
And that's why I think that the contract of Diggs

(39:03):
is a good job by Houston. If there is a
bigger issue there, then they can just move on from
him after the season. But I do think that it's
a bit of a risk for Houston.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I think the funny thing about what you just said
about Houston in that situation, stepping into a room where
there are two other dogs.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
He'll know that.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
And I don't think I mean obviously he I'm sure
he has a supreme confidence in himself as being the
top dog as a receiver. I think of going that room,
and you respect those other guys, and I don't think
those other guys getting balls will affect him as much
as it did in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Who gets to a super Bowl sooner? The Buffalo Bills
of the Houston Texans to Houston Texans for sure, really
for sure, for sure? Both made it to the AFC
Divisional Playoffs. I'm I don't know you're a Buffalo fan. No,
I'm not a Buffalo fan. I just I do want
them to get back. I do want them to get

(39:58):
back to a super Bowl. I'd love to see them
win one. And they were more competitive in their game
against the Chiefs. Even though the you know, the Texans
and Bills made it the same amount to the same level.
Texans were blown out by the Ravens. I still think
there's some work there. But you like the Texans, I'll
say Buffalo, I think that the addition by subtraction will

(40:20):
help them out. He's carry roads. I'm Dan Byer live
from the Tyrek dot Com studios. If you can believe
it or not, Caitlin Clark is underrated. We'll tell you
why next on Fox All Pro. I didn't realize that, Yeah, yeah,
was it first team? Yeah? Had all Pro years man, Dan, Yeah,

(40:41):
I was all right. I have done my day. We
have done shows with each other for probably the past
year or so, and I've never realized it until now.
And I would always just call you the NFL VET.
I heard you, and I know that you were good.
I know that you were good, but there is a
difference when you are all Pro.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Dan, You're a slighting me too. I just let you
let it ride because I like you, but you know,
it is what it is. I am accomplished, I'm accomplished.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Well I knew you were accomplished. I just didn't realize
it was accomplished. Accomplished, that's all. It just ended up.
It just ended up sliding past me. Forgive me. I've
been too many I've been too busy watching Caitlin Clark
and Iowa, you know, And the only thing to realize
that that Carrie Roads was wasn't all Pro. And by
the way, if you're second team All Pro, you're still

(41:27):
all Pro. But there's a difference of being Pro Bowl
and All Pro for sure. Yeah, but even if you're
All Pro, All Pro, first Team, All Pro, kudos to
one carry Rhoades. You know what.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
I like to thank my mom, my, dad, the Academy
for those all those stupid quarterbacks that tried to test me,
all those running backs that thought that they could run
by me, and like to thank them as well, like
to thank them.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
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order today. We're gonna get to that in just a
little bit, but I do want to say something. I

(42:14):
actually think that Caitlyn Clark is underrated, and the reasons
are many, but I think of what we have just
seen in the past week, I feel that for as
much as I feel that the men's game has been
unfairly treated as of late and has been the butt
of jokes, I also don't think that the women's game

(42:38):
truly appreciates what Caitlyn Clark has done, and in fact,
in just scrolling through social media over the last day
or so, even saw Lynette Woodard making comments about how
she still should be the all time leading scorer in
women's basketball because back then there weren't three points shots.

(43:00):
People weren't recognizing the game. And so now again we're
having like there's fights within the fights you have, is
she the really scoring champ? And then I felt that
the Pete Marrivitch thing was just completely made up. I
felt it was unnecessary. I didn't feel it was organic.
But now you're trying to compare Caitlyn Clark to people
that we've never compared each other before. But Caitlyn Clark

(43:24):
has always been the center of this. I mean, you
ask now in terms of her greatness. You're asking we
mentioned this earlier, but you're asking Don Staley, the opposing
end coach, and you're not asking Don Staley on how
do you stop Kitlyn Clark. You're asking Don Staley on
if Kitlyn Clark is the goat because of how accomplished
Staley was not only as a coach but also as

(43:47):
a player in her college day. Yes, so you're getting
that opinion of how do you look at it. You're
asking Brianna Stewart, you're asking Kelsey Plumb, You're asking all
these people that she needs to win a national championship
to prove that she's the greatest of all time. And
I don't know if you can take what Brianna Stewart

(44:08):
did and her accomplishments and compare them to what Caitlyn
Clark did, because you have championship after championship after championship.
I just know those Yukon teams were stacked, were stacked.
They were completely stacked, like like you know, one over,
I mean it was one to five. You look at
the recruiting classes and heck, Yukon just got a top
recruit over the weekend as well. So GINO or I

(44:30):
am not slowing down, but those teams were just significantly
better than everyone else in college basketball. So I think
that begs the question as well, like, well, how good
were they really if you were at such an advantage
that you had all the best players in the world.
And here Kitlyn Clark truly is a one man show.
Are you old enough to a one woman show? Are

(44:51):
you old enough to have listened to tapes. Did you
ever listen to cassette tapes when you were younger? For sure?
For sure, this is no disrespect because i WHAT has
some nice players, But Iowa reminds me of that side
a of a tape that had one good song, okay,
like it was a great, great song, and there are

(45:11):
other songs there, like it is all about Caitlin Clark. Yeah,
and I feel that the the the height of this game,
of Monday's game against LSU Angel Reese, isn't a story
if Kitlyn Clark isn't there in the first place, if
she doesn't do your you can't see me back to
Caitlin Clark in point the ring at Caitlin Clark, it

(45:33):
is not a story. Paige Becker's. For as great as
as of a player, Page Beckers was, and coming back
from the injury, she did not garner the attention only
until Yukon had to go up against IOWA and Caitlin
Clark was well, Hey, Yukon's got Page Beckers as well. Again,
the high tide lifts all boats. That is Caitlin Clark.

(45:54):
So for everybody who's trying to take her down, all
of these viewership numbers are because of Caitlyn Clark. If
it's South Carolina and Yukon today, it would not sniff
what Iowa in Yukon got on Friday. It just wouldn't.
And so like in that aspect, I actually think we
are underrating Caitlin Clark. And I think some people are

(46:16):
trying to undermine Caitlyn Clark and take away for what
she's done, but in a weird way with all of
these numbers, and some think we can get more than
twenty million viewers watching today because it's going to be
on Network TV. I actually think we are underrating Caitlin
Clark's performance.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Okay, I think we're underrating the importance of Caitlyn Clark
for the game. I don't think we're underrating her. I
think there's a difference of what that represents. Right as
a player, we've seen we've seen players like her before,
We've seen really great players. She's great, So not taking
away from that, but we're underrating the gravity the gravitas

(46:55):
that she's brought to the women's game, which is a
separate thing. And that's because of what you're saying. The
Yukon great teams. There was multiple w NBA players on
those teams. Those teams were stacked, they were loaded. Even
in the early Tennessee day. It's like we talked about
that those teams, those teams are NBA Layton, right, So
we know that with IOWA, the only person going to

(47:16):
pro on that team is Caitlyn Clarkon. And so the
importance of what she brings to her team and to
the collegiate the women's collegiate game is astronomical. But I
think it's because of that, because of her being that
that superstar, that standalone superstar on a team that outside

(47:36):
of her, we would not be watching IOWA. Sure, you
know what I mean. So I think it's the gravity
that she brings as that I guess that symbol for
the women's game, But as a player, I don't think
Berondre Ratner And I think that's my kind of push
back on that store.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
And Maya Morris trending today because now everybody is saying
for everybody wants to talk, you know, do we forget
about Maya Moore and what not only what she did
in college but in the NBA and then took time
away from the NBA, Like there's all of that is
all of that is legit. I would go back to

(48:11):
the point and I get what you're saying, but I
think you'll agree with me on this. Maya more isn't
trending today if it's not for Kitlyn Clark. Sure right
for playing today and playing in this game and doing
the comparisons, and when we mentioned and of how Caitlyn
Clark is just runs the show for Iowa and how
these other teams have talent around her. When you look

(48:33):
at what we know in college basketball and who we know,
and I know Kim Malky's been criticized for her defensive
plan against Caitlin Clark, But here Gino Oriyama just got
beat by Iowa and Caitlin Clark and Hannah Stalk ends
up having twenty three points where I'm pretty sure a

(48:54):
majority of those came a foot from the basket. And
it's because of what Caitlin Clark does passing the ball
and the pressure that she puts on and she's she's
a really good passer. Sometimes turned the ball over. It
happens at times. But I also I feel like there
are just very very few players, maybe Paige Becker's you
could put in that category that move like Caitlyn Clark

(49:15):
moves on a basketball.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Juju Watkins moves that way. But the other thing about that,
what she's doing right now is just that standalone, that
stand alone nature that she has with the game.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
She controls everything.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
And I think from the standpoint of what we see
now in basketball in general, if we talk about the
professional game, we even talk about the men's game, which
I don't like to even compare all these things at all,
but I'm just just the nature of basketball. She's playing
a brand of basketball that relates to us as viewers
because we see it on every other level. And the

(49:50):
fact that she can do it for the women's game,
the way that she's done and excelled the way she has,
it's a beautiful brand of basketball that she plays. She's
one of She's she's really like a uh I hate
compare them, but she's like she's a female Luca in
the way that she controls the game.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I mean a lot of pick and rolls.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
She can shoot off the she can shoot off the screen,
off the dribble, she can shoot off the catch, she
can make the pass off the dribble, just like any
guy or any any other women has done. No woman
has done before, in my opinion, and it's just the
way it looks in those times, even with those great
dominant Yukon teams, it was a team brand of basketball.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Even though those guys.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Those women, those women were really really good, it was more,
you know, I guess game plan, play calls. It was
coaching that got them open and got those shots where
she does it on her own and it looks totally
different than what we've seen before.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I found it so funny in hearing the discourse on
Friday night when Caitlyn Clark threw it off the back
of Pagebeckers, because I said to my wife as they
were inbounding, because there's one point one second stuff, like us,
she should just throw it off of it that. Yeah,
Like that's and And the the point is I'm making

(51:04):
is this is I think basketball people, And I'm not
trying to say I'm a basketball person. I just I
just I saw the plan and I felt it was
gonna happen. I think like a lot of people did.
But people who are just coming to the sport or
coming to the women's game are like, that was the
greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. You know,
when it's been a part of basketball for a long, long,

(51:26):
long time. Yeah, it reminded me of taking the safety
when you're up six in a game and you're backed up,
you know, on the one yard line. Yeah, figure out
a way to take more time off of the clock
and have it not hurt you. And that was a
scenario where perfect like and Caitlin Clark didn't need to
grab the ball off her back and go and score,
which we've seen in other cases on inbounds underneath the basket.

(51:49):
But you know, for whatever she does is thought of
as by some the greatest thing in the world. Never
say that. But then you also have people where they're like, nah,
that was you know, like everybody's done that. So like
there is this pull of it. So for as many
people that want to build her up that you think
that we're putting her on this pedestal, I think that
there seemed to be another group of people that are

(52:10):
just trying to take her down as well. Yeah, And
I just think that the negativity that you're playing, that
you're playing with her at least trying to avoid, is
something that is more powerful. You hear more of the
criticism than you do with the good stuff. Yeah, and
so that's even for as great of a ride it's
been for Caitlyn Clark, It's probably something we haven't discussed
too much.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Dan, you're asking Hall of Fame women basketball players, is
Caitlyn Clark the best basketball player they've ever seen? Like,
these are the questions that reporters ask. Of course they're
not going to say she's the best player they've ever seen.
They've seen great players, and they're great players themselves. I mean,
you can give a healthy respect for what she's done,

(52:51):
and you can acknowledge how great she is. But to
say that to them is this kind of it's belittling,
and to be honest, the people that they're asking are
so accomplished. Of course they're not going to say that.
So the discourse cansane negative, and I think that's where where.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
We are right now with that. By the way, I
loved on the Alternative Alternate broadcast of the game on Friday.
It was the Sue Bird Diana Tarossi's broadcast. Yeah, and
you had Diana Sue and Brianna Stuart, three Yukon players. Yeah,
watching their team, Yeah, fok's the best watching their team

(53:31):
have a foul called against them. That you know, again
divided America on whether it was a foul, whether it
should be called or not. But yeah, that should have
just been your TNT. In the past, they used to
do like the home broadcast. I don't know if they
still do it, but they would. You could turn the
channel and you can watch it was all about your
team like that felt like it was just the Yukon broadcast,

(53:52):
like there was no alternative. Maybe they felt that the
the ESPN broadcasters were just for Iowa anyway, but it was, uh, yeah,
it was. It was funny to think of Okay Yukon,
Yukon Yukon, but it also shows again on how dominant
Yukon was and how some of those teams were constructed.
You just said, the best of the best playing with
each other instead of having it more spread out, right, and.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Think about the uh and think about the coaching jobs
you know, Ariyama did for that team. They were missing
five players off off that Yukon team that would have
helped him in that's place, and they still made the
final four. So I mean kudos to them as well
for being there. But it is funny that they had
those three Yukon stars call it doing that little broadcast deal.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
They missed last year and they didn't have the COVID year. Otherwise,
they had made the Final four every year since two
thousand and eight.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
And I'm a Louisville grad obviously, which you know. Yeah,
they beat us in the finals twice, so we made
it twice and they beat us twice, but yeah, they've
been doing it for a long time.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Carry Roads second Team All Pro says oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here it is pro football reference. My apologies to the
All Pro. We were not going to let it happen again. Dan.
It wasn't that I that I purposely ignored it. But
I knew there was greatness. I just didn't realize it

(55:11):
was All Pro greatness by the way, Manzi, you know
has The thing I realized was she likes to bring
in breakfast for everyone. Manzi, did you get the heisman
from someone on a special breakfast order? I see that
there's some eggs and bacon and cheese just sitting in
a tray. Well, see, I look out for everybody.

Speaker 7 (55:29):
So our editor Eddie, he can't have flour tortillas, and
so I just put it in a bowl in case
he wanted it, because that's how kind.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Of and he didn't want it, and he did it,
but I also didn't ask him. I just did it out.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
Of the just to try it, you know, no pressure
on him. And so we had a conversation a couple
weeks ago and he told me that.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
So I was like, I'll just try it. I want
to surprise him. Yeah, look at that. Sweet. Yeah sweet,
it's just like I surprised you.

Speaker 7 (55:52):
But you turned me down. I've been turned down all night.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Carrie turned me. He's turning me down. Hey. And I
was offered. I was offered two burritos and it was
under the carry Rhoades rule because apparently you got one
of each, you would get like a potato and bacon.
Im I didn't know, No, I didn't know how it worked.
I did it.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I thought it was combined dan or like potato and
you know, the whole thing together.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
And it was two and I was like, this is
just a lot, but I love it. They're not that big, No,
they're not that big. I think it would have been
awesome if Eddie was like, yeah, i'll take you know,
some bacon and eggs, just put it in a plate.
And then he shows up and he's like, Noah, I'm good.

Speaker 7 (56:28):
I just yeah, I didn't even tell him about it, so.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I just tried it out, just pinky out and I'm good. Yeah,
he told you. I told you to spend the money.
And now I'm not even gonna exactly. But hey, if
anybody wants bacon and eggs, there's someone you talking about.

Speaker 8 (56:41):
They already ate it.

Speaker 7 (56:42):
Bo and Christophett I was like, I know this isn't
going to go to waste.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I know between the two of me, you'll figure it out.
What does that mean?

Speaker 7 (56:49):
I tell you, guys what I just said to carry
that they're not that big burritos, and I knew that
somebody would eat it.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
I already ate the second the second want my name
out there, I didn't know anything.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
I don't get to have a I don't get to go.
Do you hear the defensive pit's going on right now?

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
This is great, of course it's really good.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
Trust me, Ricky would have been Ricky has sneakily taken.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
A burrito or two.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
If if Ryan Berschinger, the other Foxworts radio producer, was here,
I would probably have to fight him over this bowl
that's here.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
That side of the glass puts the eat in Burrito.
That is what it does. It is Fox Sports Sunday.
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(57:39):
the MVP's one man's to lose and as one team
free falling as the postseason is going to begin in
a couple of weeks. He's carry Rhoads, the all Pro
I'm Dan Bayer. That's next year on Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports Sunday. He's the all Pro. Carry Roads. I'm
Dan Bayer. Hanging out. We have a game of easy
as one, two, three, four, Yeah, Carries in the hot seat.

(58:00):
Lifelines of Chris Purfett, Bo Benson, and Monty Blagos will
be available. Manti gonna give us the update of what's
happening in about five minutes or so, a quick look
at what's happening in the NBA and lo and behold,
there's a new top team in the Western Conference. It's
only percentage points, but when you only have four or
five games left of the NBA's regular season, I think

(58:20):
it means something. The Denver Nuggets of taking over the
top spot half game up on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Denver
getting Jamal Murray back last night in a huge win.
For as much as everything that has happened throughout the
NBA this year, and I know we focus so much
on the Lakers and the Warriors and what they're doing

(58:41):
in the play in Tournament, this is bad news for
the rest of the Western Conference. If Denver is now
rounding in the form Murray's healthy, and now this team
is ascended to the top of the West to be
the defending champs, I think it's bad news for everybody
in the Western Conference.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Yeah, they're a top team out West. I think that's
I think that's been proven. They won it last year,
they came back this year, and they seem to have
laser focus coming into this year as well. And even
coach Malone coming into this year, I mean, he said
this isn't We're not satisfied. We're coming and we're trying
to continue to win and win big. And they're doing

(59:19):
that they have the best player in the league in
joke its I don't think that actually equates to being
the MVP. We'll talk about that later, but best player
in the league right now. You have a closing lineup
with him and Murray, that two man game which has
been unstoppable for the last couple of years. And they're
confident as well, and I see them being the major threat.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
But they have some competition.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
In that West that I would like to throw out
there once we get deeper into this conversation.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
No, I know, are you talking about Am I talking
to mister mav here? Is that who I'm talking to?
That's one of them, but not the only? Okay, all right, okay,
so yea Mavericks. Yep. Here's here's what I'll say. I
think teams need to peak in and I'll get to
the Mavericks sit in a second. Yeah, I think teams
need to peak over the final two months of the season.
I think they need to peak in March and then

(01:00:06):
heading into April. I do think there's a lot of
bad basketball. This is where the teams that are out
of it just don't care anymore. It doesn't stop the
Bucks from losing to those teams. But hey, that's a
completely different story. Here in a row. The Mavericks are
playing really good basketball and now in the five spot. Uh,
Luca is one of the contenders. You think to Jokic

(01:00:26):
for the MVP, I do. I think if if.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
If Luca and those guys would have started this run
a little bit earlier, he would be the front runner.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
No, he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Jokic is, but you just can't discredit what he's done.
I think the numbers speak for themselves. But now the
winning has come along with that as well. I mean
they're winning at a pace where I think they're they
have what is it eleven and they're eleven and one
in their last twelve, but I mean in their last
twenty one, I think they were nineteen and two. I

(01:01:01):
could be a little off of the numbers, but playing
really good basketball with the combination of him and Kyrie
being healthy. I think those two we talk about Yo
Kitchen Murray in that two man game and what they represent.
No team has been more clutch than the Dallas Mavericks
and clutch games. They have the highest percentage of highest
winning percentage of those type of games, and so in

(01:01:21):
the playoffs when it's slow down and you need to
win close games and tough games. You have two of
the top guys in Luke and Kyrie that can finish.
So I think they have a really good chance to
compete and do well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
I'd fall back to the sixth spot and then you
don't have to worry about Denver in the semifter. I know,
strategy come in the play If you get past the
Clippers in the first round, they'll beat the Clippers in
the first round. I know that hurts Montsi, but that's
all right. They'll beat the Clippers in the first round.
She's talking to Steve Hartman right now, So you heard me.
That's the pre show that nobody hears. It's to an

(01:01:53):
audience of zero, but it's going on right now. The
other point, I want to make Lakers winners of their
last four. Well, they are playing well, Yeah, does it matter?
I don't think it does. You don't think it does.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
You think they'll lose, You think they make the playoffs
when they lose in the play in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
I just this is a team that made it to
the conference finals last year exactly, and we're swept by Denver,
and so anything that is less than that, I think
is a failure. And whether you're the seven or eight.
If you're the eight, guess who you may have in
around number one. Yeah, the Denver Nuggets. And I don't

(01:02:33):
think that they win that series. It would really behoove
them if they were to win the play in, if
they were in that eight to seven matchup, and then
you can be at the other side of the bracket.
But yeah, I just I don't think it matters for them,
and I don't think it matters for the Warriors. I
think we spent so much energy on these teams that
are in the play ins because of their brand names. Yeah,
I just don't. I don't think that in the end

(01:02:54):
it matters.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
I agree, No, I mean those teams. I mean, if
you're getting that seventh spot, I mean, the Lakers can
beat all those teams out there and make it to
the Western Conference Finals. Again, I don't think they will,
but they can. And so I mean for me, I
look out West Phoenix is finally starting to play well
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Also, Sacramento has now got injuries. Sacramento's done. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't think you have to worry about them, But.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Watch out of Phoenix. They're playing really good basketball right now.
All three of their stars are healthy. I think they're
obviously top top heavy. They don't have a bent stat's
really good. But I mean, those three guys are dangerous.
These carry roads. I'm dan Byer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Carry just took a shot at Moncey belanias Clippers, saying
that the Clippers don't have a shot against the Mavericks.
Let's go to Mancy and then Mancy will be a lifeline.
Who knows if she'll be a good one for Carrie.
Oh no, she may sabotage him purposely the easiest one,
two three, Yeah, I know that's going to happen. So
just ask me, ask me for help, carry and see
what happens. But you know I care about you. It's

(01:03:54):
all good. I just stand the Clippers.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
No, no, no, no, there's no there's bad blood now, Carrie,
there is a thereusually be bad blood now, you know,
never never, no more burritos for you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Wo personal that got that got a reaction.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
That got a reaction.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
He was very mad about. That's shocked. Shocked.

Speaker 7 (01:04:12):
Listen when the Clippers, I don't want to see the
maps in.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
The first to see them in the first round, I
like the maps.

Speaker 7 (01:04:19):
You know that like the MAVs, so I don't want
to see them in the first round because I like
the Maps, so I you know, and if I see
them in the second round, we're gonna take them down.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
So don't worry. Don't worry.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Who's gonna take who down?

Speaker 7 (01:04:30):
Between Iowa and South Carolina, that's the big question for
todave Fellas the Women's National Basketball Championship tip off three
pm Eastern time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
We are getting closer to it. This is a revenge game.

Speaker 7 (01:04:43):
There's so much going on here, you know what I'm saying,
Like I'm nervous, and I truly don't care, and I
I'm nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
What's the bigger story?

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
South Carolina going undefeated or Kaitlyn Clark winning all Kaitlyn
Clark nine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
As that is. It's crazy, but it's true.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
It is true.

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
And it's just because in eighty games, this is the
only loss that they have ever suffered has been to
Iowa in eight It's just like so much as writing
on it, it's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I cannot wait.

Speaker 7 (01:05:13):
In other college news for the women's basketball side of things,
Tennessee has found their new coach.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
They're hiring Marshall coach Kim Caldwell to be the new
Lady Bulls head basketball coach.

Speaker 7 (01:05:25):
This is the first time they're actually going outside of
the family since the late pat Summit stepped away.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
When you saw how they defended South Carolina in the
SEC championship game and they fouled them and time would
have ran out, they would have beaten the game Cocks,
that was cause for dismissal. Yeah, they fouled because they
had to followed the gift thinking it was the right
play and set it up for South Carolina. Then the
guard I mean left their wid.

Speaker 7 (01:05:47):
Oh yeah, wid though, But I mean I understood the
logic like in the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
But you're right, the logic to foul was was absurd. Yeah,
like just let the time run out. They didn't have
a timeout. I'm not going to make a sixty right Yeah, no, No,
you're right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
When you're right, you're right. So yeah, well we've bat
to the NFL today.

Speaker 7 (01:06:07):
New England Patriots safety Kyle Dugger a great to a
four year, fifty eight million dollar contract extension. It can
be worth up to sixty six million. In baseball, we
got lots of games going on, but the Guardians in
the Twins game in Cleveland has been postponed due to
whether the Braves officially play Spencer Strider on the fifteen day.
I l with that right elbow, U se L Sprain.
I think they're trying to figure things out. And another

(01:06:28):
baseball news, Stephen Strasburg officially announced his retirement. He hasn't
played in a little bit because of injuries, but he
was the twenty nineteen World Series and the MVP. Let's
check on the Texas Open and it is still Akshay Batiya. Yeah,
got right, seventeen under par through three holes for today.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
He's been in the lead this entire Open. I feel, yes,
like the.

Speaker 7 (01:06:54):
Entire time and he's and he has a six stroke lead.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
So wired wire, Yeah, yeah, he's. But back to you guys,
don't like Carrie. I have an update. Kerrie isn't kicking
as much butt as we thought in our bracket challenge.
What happened? The Fox Sports Radio Instagram post was old.
They didn't give the updated standings. So you are so
you're in fourth right now. It says you're in third,

(01:07:19):
but you're in fourth. Chris Plank and Aaron Torres are
tied for first, Jared Smith is second, and then Carry
Rhodes is. Oh, Covino just fell off that last game. Yeah,
that Yukon game. Yeah he needed Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
What's the numbers now, Dan, you're you're at ninety one,
ninety ninety one points, Plexico Buris is behind you, and
the aforementioned Steve Hartman is currently in fifth with eighty
four points.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
So you guys ready to play easy as one, two, three, four?
All right? Carrie Rhodes is in the hot seat. He's
got three lifelines. I give him four questions. He doesn't
have to give me all of the correct answers, just
some of them. A perfect score of ten is our
goal the over under today. I think you're going to
do really well with this eight and a half. The
topics men's college basketball, women's college basketball, and the NBA. Okay,

(01:08:06):
all right, are you ready to go? And just remember
the first question doesn't mean it's the easiest. It just
requires the fewest amount of answers. Got it? Here we go.
Lifelines of Chris Burfette, Bobentz, and a Manzi Bolanos available
to you name one and not Steve Hartman. He's the
cheat code. He's the down, up, down, A B A

(01:08:27):
B of this game. Name one of two schools that
are currently in the Big Ten that have won a
national championship in women's basketball and women's basket in women's basketball.
One of two schools that are currently in the Big
Ten that have a national championship to their name? Do
you want any one lines Ohio State? Wait? Let me uh,

(01:08:51):
anybody races nobody, nobody out. Let me say Big Ten,
Big Ten.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
This is the toughest question of the full I know
Ohio State's made it to the final.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
One of two schools currently in the Big Ten. Man
two schools currently in the Big Ten that have won
a women's national champion champ ten in college basketball. Sometimes
you have to listen to the wording of the question
one more time, say time, most that are currently in
the Big Ten, in the Big Ten that have won
a national championship in women's basketball? Steve, where are you at? Steve?

(01:09:31):
He's banned from the game. He's banned from the game.
You only need one of the two. You only need
one of the two. I'm just gonna say Ohio State.
I For some reason, that name keeps sticking up to me.
I know you're an Ohio State fan, so maybe you
would throw that in the mix. Let's find out is
it Ohio State? It is not. As a good guest said,
they were a two seed this year. Yeah, Katie Smith

(01:09:51):
on some good teams back in the day as well.
We were looking for Purdue who won in nineteen ninety
nine and Maryland when they were.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
The as we knew something had to be doing with currently.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Yes, yeah, that was yes, So when not when they
remember the Big Ten? But they won in two thousand sact.
So there it is all right, off and running. Don't worry.
You still have the ability to hit the over name.
Two of three schools carry aside from Purdue, from the
state of Indiana that have played in the men's NCAA
Championship Game. Two of three schools from the state of Indiana,

(01:10:26):
aside from Purdue that's going to do so tomorrow night, Indiana,
Indiana State. Those are final answers. Yeah, show me Indiana, Yeah,
they've been there six times. Show me Indiana State. Yeah,
there's there's just steal by bird. That's my Nolan Richardson.
I love that. Nolan Richardson's speech when he was inducted
in the Hall of Fame talking about Larry Bird the
other I think we all remember Butler. Yes, yes, yeah,

(01:10:49):
two points for carry. Rhodes didn't even need his lifelines
on that one. Carrie Rhads named three of four NBA
teams that new Hall of Famer Chauncey Billups played the
most games for. Congratulations to Chauncey Billups, who will be
a member of the Basketball Hall of Fame. Name three

(01:11:09):
of the four teams that he played the most games
for in his NBA career. Three of the four. We
got Detroit, we have Denver. It's gonna be Yourn, anyone,
bueler Bo, Chris Moncio, you got you got this last

(01:11:31):
the absolute wrong person I would say.

Speaker 8 (01:11:35):
I would say the Los Angeles Clippers would be the
third option there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Yeah, he played with the Clippers. Yeah, I'll do that.
NBA teams that new Hall of Famer Chauncey Billups played
the most games for Detroit, Denver, and the Clippers. Those
are your final answers, Yes, all right, show me the
Detroit Pistons. Yeah, of course, mister big shot played for
the Pistons, Chauncey. Yeah, show me the Denver Nuggets for sure, Yes,

(01:12:02):
for sure, absolutely, two stints. I believe with Denver this
was a.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Little tricky because he played with so many teams early on.
So because he played, he got he didn't get drafted anyway.
Go ahead, do you think Dan, that's all right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah? And finally, is it the Clippers? I didn't think
it is not your baby? Sounds like it's not the Clipps. No,
it's the one he got drafted to the Clippers. It's not.
It isn't who is it? The Timberwolves were third, So
Billups played four hundred and eighty two games of the Pistons,
two hundred and fifty nine games of the Nuggets, the
Timberwolves he played one hundred and fifty nine games, and

(01:12:35):
then actually it was the Boston Celtics fifty one games.
The Clippers were just on the outside looking in on that. Yes,
the Clippers. I think he played forty two games with
the Clippers in his career. Also stints with the Knicks
and Raptors. That's all right. This is score of two.
You have an opportunity to get a respectable eight. Okay,

(01:12:56):
well you were gonna find out if you can. You
could get that. On the side, he's Chauncey Billups his
excuse me, He's carry Rhodes. If we had Chauncey Phillups'd
be quite a show, would be a great guest. It'd
be like good Jobo Benson, good Booking. He's carry Rhoads
all pro Roads. Hit them up bag, Carrie, twenty five Roads.

(01:13:16):
You can find me at dan Byer on Fox. Will
wrap up the game and have our predictions for Championship
Sunday moon lighting this Chauncey Billups next on Fox Sports Sunday,
Fox Sports Sunday. Here on Fox Sports Radio. Whoah's Happy Sunday,

(01:13:38):
Happy Sunday. He's carry Roads. I'm dan Byer, Carrie smack
dab in the middle of a game of easy as one, two,
three four. Actually you're three quarters of the way through. Yeah.
I loved hearing your feedback today, including my buddy who
texted me when you were giving Yukon credit with their
injured players. My buddy rights, Yeah, missing five star players
only left them with seven five star players. True, true, true,

(01:14:05):
Poor Gino, poor Jena. All right, you got four points.
You have an opportunity to max out at eight. Are
you ready for your final question of easy as one, two,
three four? I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
So even though I'm a little I guess underwhelming, Let's
do it. Let's let's let's finished off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Let's then we're gonna wrap up the show with how
Major League Baseball dipped into the world of the NFL.
Final question, Kerrie Rhoades named four or five NBA teams
that new Hall of Famer Vince Carter played the most
games for. You thought Chauncey Billups played in a lot
of places, and the reason when you said the team
he was drafted when I was originally writing the questions,

(01:14:43):
because Chauncey only spent one season in Boston. Basketball Reference
lists the seasons next to it, so I was gonna
say multiple seasons, but then it didn't add up because
he had partial seasons in Minnesota. And I'm like, all right,
we're gonna go. We're gonna he cheated me, Dan, That's
what it is. I'm gonna say, you cheated me. Then
I didn't cheat you, but you did very well. Make it.

(01:15:06):
Thank you? All right? Name four of the five teams
that Vince Carter played the most games for.

Speaker 9 (01:15:11):
So we're gonna go Toronto, We're gonna go Nets, We're
gonna go Dallas, and we're gonna go We're gonna go Hawks.
But wait, but wait, let me think that. Okay, do
you want any lifelines? You want any anybody's opinion? It

(01:15:33):
doesn't look like it doesn't look like it. I'm gonna stay.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Yeah, I'm gonna have moth anyway, just to hear what
she says, just a hero of voice.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
But I don't like the Hawks answer. I'm not gonna
lie to you. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
I feel like he wasn't there that long.

Speaker 7 (01:15:47):
But I could be wrong. But out of the ones
you said, the Hawks were the ones that I was like,
I feel like it was later in.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
His career so we remember it. But I don't think
he was there that long. But who would be the
substitute there? No said, I'm just telling you, I don't
like it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:04):
This is She could also be lying to you, Carri.
She heard you talk about the right You're trying to
sabotage man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Oh no, I could, but I'm just telling you.

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
When you said the one, I was like, I don't
I don't like the Hawks answer.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
I'm being honest.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
All right. Let me let me all right, let me
replay this one time really quickly in the head Okay,
definitely Toronto. Definitely the Nets, the Mavericks for sure, and
I mean I don't even know where where I'll see
the Hawks. He was in San Antonio for a quick spell, right.

Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
I think he was a King for a second, but
a second so I don't have an answer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
I'm going to go at those four. We gotta we
gotta roll. Wait, wait, we got hold on? Lets can
we go to Chris? Yes, absolutely, let's go to Chris.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
Could it be the Memphis Grizzly Grizzlies? It could be,
like I'm trying to remember. I think he played there
like three years, but I'm trying to remember if he
was healthy for all three?

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Uh, this is games play, right Dan? Games played? Yeah?
Number of games play?

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Yeah, Like I you're you're good on the first three.
I'm just wondering if it's either Hawks, we got rizz.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
We gotta go. I'm actual I'm gonna go with Chris.
I'm gonna go Memphis, all right, all right, show me
the Toronto Raptors numero.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
You know, by the way, the Raptors did a cool logo.
Did you see that? It's their their raptor doing the
between the legs dunk to honor Vince Carter getting into
the Hall of Fame. That's cool, very dope. Show me
the New Jersey Nets. Yes, there they were three hundred
and seventy four games. Yeah, played four hundred and three. Yes,

(01:17:39):
that's right. Show me the Dallas Mavericks two and twenty
three games for Vince Carter and to sweep this category
and finish with a score of eight. Show me the
Memphis Grizzlies. There they are one nine, option five. The
Atlanta Hawks at one hundred and thirty six games. His

(01:18:00):
tenure with the Orlando Magic, Phoenix Suns and Sacramento Kings
did not make the list. I completely forgot that he
was in Orlando, and it's fitting because I think people
have forgotten Orlando's in the NBA and they're the fourth
best team in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
Hawks is where he gave that great quote that I've
got one more in me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yes, yeah, yep, yeah, So good job, carry Roads. I
had to finish straw, Thank you again. The toughest question
was the first question. There was no doubt about that.
But Chauncey Billups and Vince Carter also played for a
lot of teams. Yes, that's what happens. Why do I
think Major League Baseball ventured into the world of the
NFL and this is perfect for the All Pro carry

(01:18:41):
roads because last night, getting crushed by the New York Yankees,
Vladimir Guerrero Junior crushed a home run for Toronto, made
it nine to three at the time, and vlad ronted
the bases and did the sh gesture and then heard
it from Yankee Stadium because this team was getting crushed.

(01:19:02):
Asked after the game, let's says, I always do that.
It's always been something and it may be so. But
when you're getting beat like you were in that scenario,
bad timing. You know what? It reminded me of defensive
backs when a quarterback overthrows his wide receiver by forty
yards and you and your brethren are Carrie's flexing, doing

(01:19:26):
the incomplete wagging your finger. No, this is the no
fly zone. No, you had nothing to do with it.
It was that the quarterback chucked at forty yards past
his receiver.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
No, Dan, we had everything to do with that. Oh man,
the life of a dB man, We're so confident.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
I love it. A dB will give up three straight
twenty yard completions and then the fourth one in the
end zone is batted away, and he will give you
the folded arms sort of pose. And the new thing
is you put the seat belt on, you lock them down.
That's what it is. Oh, I like it. That's right,
that's really good. I always wondered because it was very

(01:20:05):
sword like. I didn't know if they were putting a
sword in, but the seat belt, the seat belt. Uh,
it's been fun with you the next two hours. Enjoy
today's Championship Games four Carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer live
from the tyreq dot com studios, Steve Hartman and crew.
Next year on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah,

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