April 13, 2024 • 38 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress talk about the drama brewing in Dallas with CeeDee Lamb and Micah Parsons, the passing of OJ Simpson at 76, Jared Goff’s thoughts on the Detroit media, and more!
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a lot of time. But one thing I'm sure you
guys will all be happy about.
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Well, we're all on the show. We're all back, TJ.
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Plex, Stretch, Armstrom, Pateen, Man, everyone's back.
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How's everybody doing, man, how y'all feeling? Man?
Speaker 6 (01:40):
I'm good man, just been doing a little ripping and
running here, just trying to see what's out here, you know,
y'all how y'all being man?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, traveling?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
We got uh this crazy to see Elijah out here,
get these offers and then first track meet blowing people's
doors off. You know, see little Man man doing the
same thing. It's just it's evolution of these kids. Man,
right in front of our eyes. Man, they just growing
and growing, and that means we're getting older and older older.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Man. Just like you say, man, I's been on the groove. Man.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Like the last month I went down to you know
Ndeed know the Dame for the spring, and then last
weekend I was in Cleveland on Hio. My daughter was
playing in the All American Basketball Game and the woman
n CUAA final four. This this weekend, we me and
me and myself and little Man, we just got out
here to Charlotte, North Carolina. So we're gonna be going
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to the Rivals football camp tomorrow nice and put a
stamp on it. So, man, just all over the place
right now. But you know what this Saturday, Voltron is
back to Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody's back together. We can
fight evil.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And when you know what I mean, we got it.
We got it going on.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And speaking of fighting evil, and when it fellas I
wanted to start off the show with the discussion.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Been hearing reports.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Out of Dallas that Cde Lamb could potentially be a
holdout candidate for this upcoming season. And also we'red from
inside that there's multiple people, more than people would would
imagine that are saying they would have no problem if
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if Dallas were to part ways with Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I wanted to start that.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I wanted to start to show off with this and
get y'all's perspective on first, Let's start with cdee Lamb.
Is this a good Is this a good move for
Cede Lamb? If they don't extend him. He did wait
another year, he didn't get an extension this past season.
Uh so this will be the final year of his contract.
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Is this the right move for cdee Lamb to to
potentially hold out, if if not even in up holding
out for a new contract.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Listen, man number one. The Cowboys need to start being
proactive instead of reactive. Meaning when you have a young
player and you know he's a cornerstone player, Sonny, what
you waiting on? You didn't learn from Dak Dak Prescott's
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contract didn't teach you guys a lesson.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
You wait, you wait, and you wait, and that means
it's greater later.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
You're gonna pay way more later than you would pay
if you get out in front of this, Like, you
can't let a guy in see thee Lamb yet you've
drafted high in the first round.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
You can't let him go. You have to sign them.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
And the longer you wait, the more you're going to pay.
Like it's almost crazy that they haven't negotiated something with
he now because it's, oh, we don't want to pay
him this, Well, guess what you're gonna pay him later
more than this.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And so.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
If I'm City Lamb, it's a business because the way
the Cowboys are approaching this right now, they're approaching it
as a business. But when the player approaches it as
a business. Oh why are you holding down? You gonna
be with your teammates and be for the team. No,
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you approach it the same way they approach it as
a business. And so for City Lamb, he'll be playing
on this fifth year option this season, which would be
just just a tad under eighteen million dollars. But he's earned,
he's earned a long term deal, and so would I report.
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I would probably report. But the smart thing for him
to do is to hold out, like I'm not going
I'm not going to OTAs.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm going to everything that's mandatory. That's me.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
But in today's game, with what as much money as
these kids are making now, man, you have to do
what's best for you and approach it as a business
because they always approach it that way.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I mean, the number is going to be what the
number is. I mean, that's just the going rate for
all star wide receiver in this league.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's just what it is now.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
And from Dallas, I just I really just don't understand it,
because I mean, if you're the Dallas Cowboys, we're talking
about CD Lamb, he's arguably your best player on offense.
We know what the numbers are, we know what the
Justin Jeffersons are looking for the Jamar Chasers, all these
guys getting ready to come through the ranks. But for
Dallas Cowboys, without of cde Lamb, you don't have an offense.
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So do you think that you're going to try to
set a president in not negotiating or trying to sign
Cede Lamb to bring him back to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Go out there and find somebody better. I don't think
that's gonna be the case at all, because when we're
talking about cde Lamb, he is easily one of the
top five players at his position, and you just don't
go into the draft or try to get somebody in
free agency because there's probably only three or four, maybe
two or three guys in the world that are better
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than him than what he does. So if you're the
Dallas Cowboys, what else are you going to do? What
else are you going to do except sign them?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And the man?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Just like you said, DJ, the man has earned a
long term deal. And that's what these players are doing.
They listen, They basically have all the leverage these days.
And not to say that he has not earned it,
He has earned the right to say, you know what,
I'm not going to attend mini camp. OTA's I may
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be a hold out going in the training camp.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I just don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
But why wouldn't the Dallas Cowboys not sit down with
Ceedee Lamb and his asient and try to rectify this
before these things go south.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'm pretty sure he wants to stay in Dallas. He
wants to remain in Dallas. But for them to not.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Exercise the option of giving this man a long term deal,
it just makes no sense at all.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
All right, Let's quickly transition into Michael Parsons and the
conversations coming from within being.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Leaked supposedly allegedly.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
That there are multiple people more than people would imagine
that are basically saying that he's become difficult to deal
with or whatever, and that they wouldn't you know, whoever
these who they are people are, they wouldn't have a
problem if Michael Parsons wasn't in the building as a
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as a Dallas Cowboy in the in the future, once
he's uh, you know, able to become a free agent
or something else may happen. I don't know, I find
out to be crazy. But what I mean what's y'alls,
what's y'all's take on that?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Trade them? Trade them? Then?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
If you really feel that way, it's almost Uh. I
don't understand, man, why these teams put these narratives out there?
Speaker 7 (09:26):
Man?
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Because honestly, when that story comes out, why don't the
Cowboys get out in front of that as soon as
it comes out and says, oh, no, no, no, no,
no no, we don't have a problem with Michael. We
don't know where this is coming from. Why have it
Why has it been radio silence since that report was
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first leaked?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Why?
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Why because now players can do a podcast during the season.
Why because players can get their truth out, their story
out from their point of view, you don't have.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
To go through them.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Why why I try to assassinate the man's character in
who he is and oh, it's his act is kind
of just running thin.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's wearing people out. Okay, trade them, trade them.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
If you don't like the way he's acting, trade them,
And if it's not true, come out and say something
to say that it isn't true. Because you do it
any other time, You do it any other time, and
so why not do it now with your best player?
He's the best player on Dallas Cowboys offense and defense.
He's the best player on the team. And so if
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you were to trade him, guess what you can get
a king's ransom for a guy that has rubbed.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
People the wrong way.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
So if people don't like them, why not get a
king's ransom and get rid of a nuisance. That's what
I would do, right of course you would, no, And
so like I just he's up for a huge contract.
They're gonna pay him. He probably the highest paid defensive
player ever in the history the league. They're trying to
lower his value by assassinating his character and that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Man.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
We're talking about Michael Parsons. Yes, we're talking about Michael
Parsons and the possibility of him not being a Dallas Cowboy.
He is one of those one of these generational athletes
and players playing the defensive end position that we have
seen over the last twenty years. Ar could be one
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of the best right now. And if you're Jared Jones,
you have to be halfway crazy if you want to
get rid of or part ways with Michael Passons. It's
like you said to that you can get a Kings transformed.
But for the next ten years, you'll probably be the
worst team in the division. So it makes no sense
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for us even to be entertaining the fact that Michael
Passs is not going to be a part of this
football team. It's like you said, they are trying to
assess fascinate this man's character because these contracts that these
guys are getting defensively or who just signed the biggest
contract as a defensive alignment?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Who was that? Bos was the one I got? Yeah, Bosa?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And can we not sit here and say today that
you think that you don't think Michael Parsons is a
better player than Bosam.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You can make the argument either way. You can make
the argument. As long as you can make the argument,
then the argument is. The argument is the argument. So
let's just so let's just stay there and say that.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
If it's an argument, if we have an argument that
one is one A and one is one B, then
the contract is what it is. Nobody's going to be
able to get away from giving these guys these contracts
because they have created this themselves, the players rightfully so,
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and the owners to these players are recognizing that, you
know what, I have an opportunity to do something financially
that even when I started playing this game on coming
into this league.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It's even bigger than what I thought it was.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
And these players are going to do everything in their
power to get everything that they deserve. And Michael Parsons,
if Bosa is the highest played defensive player in the league,
then Michael Parsons he needs to be right there with
them or being paid more than a Bosa.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'll say that's heading into the break Fellas.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Both topics put together, and a conclusion coming from it
is this just speaks to what apparently looks to be dysfunction,
and the dysfunction that you would say you equate to
why a team that has so much talent can't win.
You go from you go from big name player the
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big name player, and it just seems like when you
hear things like this, if that's what's what's coming from
inside of the offices of the facilities of the team itself,
take Dallas out of the equation. If you're hearing that
from any team out there or any organization out there,
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that says total dysfunction to me, why would you allow
for that, as you mentioned TJ, why would you allow
for that to be a narrative that isn't combat.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It addressed immediately upon hearing it, and it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
So maybe they did it internally, but that still doesn't
do anything for those two young men externally as it
applies to how the fan base and how the media
are taking hold of it. But it'd be interesting to
see how that plays out. You're listening to up on Game.
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gonna talk about Jared goff.
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In a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
He had some interesting things to say about the Detroit media.
I'm curious about what you guys think about that. But
first let's visit the conversation of OJ Simpson passing away
this past week dies at seventy six. I'm just I'm
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trying to think of what direction to take the conversation
in Fellas, and I guess the most maybe most relevant
one would be, is OJ Simpson the most despised hated
sports hero that you can think of in the history
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of sports? Because I can honestly say I have not
heard too much, if any, narratives that would be considered
to be positive about OJ Simpson. The biggest story and
the biggest conversation point with OJ Simpson is clearly and
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obviously the double murders that took place, that he was
accused of and found innocent of doing it. Now, granted,
keep in mind, the burden of proof is to prove
that that's what you did.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Without a doubt.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I think that's how you said, I don't know, but anyway,
it's not the fact that I don't know. Anyways, I
don't want to get into the legal jargon of it all.
Is this guy the most hated, Like he's dead now,
he died, he passed away, and yet people are are happy,
They're super happy that he's died. They're they're they're right
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raveling and the reveling and the idea of him, you know,
being dead and having no sympathies towards it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Is this the right approach? How how do you feel
about it?
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Man? This is this is tough, LeVar, because when when
you when you talk about oh J. Simpson a football player,
one of the greatest running backs to ever play.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But it's hard to just talk about oh J.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Simpson a football player without bringing up and at least
being aware of what he went to trial for Although
he was found not guilty, many including myself, felt he
was guilty. I mean, you don't hop in the Bronco
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and get on the ninety one freeway. I mean he
would rolling right by my house. And so if you
don't do that, and it sucks for the families of
the victims, his children, himself. But he was found not
guilty of it, and again many people thought he was guilty.
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And I felt like society got him back when he
ended up having to go to prison. Although he was
able to come out of prison and it looks like
lead somewhat of a productive life.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
But when you.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Take the lives of two people, and again, although he
was found not guilty, this is just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Man.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
It's tough that when you hear that name, that's the
first thing I think about it. I don't even think
about the football player anymore. I think about kids that
don't have their mother any longer and parents that don't
know they no longer have their children, And so that
there is tough. It's hard to uh think of that
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name and not have the empathy towards those that were affected.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Man, it's it's kind of you know, uh, you know,
mixed emotions. I think all across the board. I've know,
I've met Ojay and you know, sat down and had
conversations with him. But but the people, a lot, most
of the people that that I know who are friends
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of oj You gotta remember, like back in you know,
his time man they say as a hero.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You know, he was a hero.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
He was more recognizable than the president at one time
based off of you know, his college career at USC
Heisman Trophy and obviously you know, being the first running
back in history to run for two thousand yards back
in you know the seventies, and you know, all of
those things and then you know, everything transpired. I think
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that the the saddest part about it is that like
nobody got any closure, like those people that were passed away,
and now you know, he has perished, and it's just
unfortunate that, you know, I don't know who, I don't
have an opinion, but it is a legacy of himself
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is what it's going to be. It just depends on
you know, what side of the fence you are, you know,
with O. J. Simpson as far as you know, just
like you said, TJ, like you know, everybody has their
own you know, speculation or opinion of him, but he
went to court and he was felt not guilty, but
that would never be enough, I feel like, so it's
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kind of for me I have. I had a chance
to meet him and sit down with him a few
times man, and you know, obviously I have some good
conversations with him. But at the end of the day,
I mean, just like you said, people, parents, his legacy
will go on as whatever you portray it to be
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or however you feel you know about him, and that's
what is always going to be for Oj Simpson. It's
just this unfortunate thing for him and in his family
extended family who are still living. Those are the people
that are going to have to live with that and
carry that on with them too, for the rest of
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their lives.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
You know. The first thing I kind of when I
sat on when this happened, because I had to talk
about we were on air on two Pros and a
Cup of Joe when the well, we were doing the
Dan Patrick Show when the news broke. Don't y'all find
it kind of strange that there was never a very
very assertive effort and attempt by Oj Simpson.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Two really really clear up the fact that he did
not do it felt like I mean, obviously, again this
is my opinion.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
He felt like.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
The trial was it cleared up everything that that's what
he felt. I mean, obviously, why would he come out
and say something because he went.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
To trial, because the world continued to say exactly what
you are saying and saying the and spewing the hate
towards him that that it did. Why wouldn't he make
an assertive effort to like, why would you come out
with books if I were to do it type stuff?
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Like why were these narratives coming out? I just to myself,
you were such a major sports figure. You were nicknamed
the juice. Everybody. Everybody knew who he was, Like you said, plex,
everybody was a fan.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I mean him and Jim Brown were one of the
first two football players that kind of turned into movie stars.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean he was a movie are brot? Yeah, I
mean he was on that level. He was on that level.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
The majority of society had already formed an opinion prior
to the trial. They had already formed an opinion he
was guilty, he did it. Why did he run? If
you not, if you're not guilty, you're not running and
so a lot of people had already formed.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
And by the way, another another major piece of that
is he I mean, he had a gun and was
talking about he was going to end it.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You know what. You got a gun in the backseat
of the car for in the truck, and you're about
to end it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And it's kind of crazy to me that, in knowing
that you had the opportunity to have one of the
most iconic legacies connected to sport, you turned into one
of the most polarizing, infamous people maybe ever in the
history of sports. And I just find it intriguing that
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this is this is one of those those stories where
it's like this man just died, like he just passed away,
And I don't I almost feel like there was like
a collective sense of relief that the man passed away.
I don't know that I've ever felt or heard or
experienced anything like this in my entire life.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Hey, Lava, let me ask you something. Let me ask
you a question. Let me ask you a question. How
do you feel about the fact that, to my knowledge,
that not one teammate that he played with put anything
out on social media about him as being the man
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little football player that they played with not one teammate
said anything.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I mean I did, and I didn't really see anything
coming out that outside of like the obvious, like the
family statements, stuff like that. There was nothing positive that
came out about him. Nothing and you could you could
throw in there, like you know, contemporaries like Marcus Allen,
you know, different things like that. You know, I think
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that the Hosmotrophy posted something which I thought was was
was crazy nice about about that, But from a teammates standpoint,
not one.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Because teammates knew him before you played with yea in.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
College and in professional and nobody that had my man
back to say anything good about him as a man
or a football player.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I mean, I don't know if Marcus put something on
his story and I missed it, but I know he
didn't put nothing on his on his I g about it.
That would have been the one I would have, you know,
I looked for and wanted to see what that, what
that looked like, what that represented that that didn't take place.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I really feel like, I really feel.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Like in this instant, in this instance that again I
think the the over overwhelming conclusion to his passing was
that people were relieved that he was gone.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Like, that's crazy to me and Laura.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That's exactly what it is. Yeah, mistake about it because
you're not the only one. You have said it and
put it out for everybody here. You are exactly right.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
But when the majority of society believed it was guilty,
of course, that's going to be the feeling of most
is Hey, you.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Know what's crazy, TJ.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Not to step on you, but what's crazy about what
you continuing to say he was he was, he did
this and he wasn't found guilty. You know what the
craziest thing is, I almost feel like if if he
had committed the crimes and went to jail, people would
have been like, oh, OJ died this and that. I
(29:27):
think the fact that he was found innocent, yes, and
was able at some point to actually walk around as
a free man and enjoyed life. And it looked like
he was living it up too, Like you said, productive,
it looked like he was. He was just golfing and
talking talking what he's talking his talk with Cameron and Mason,
(29:48):
Like it just seemed like the fact that he got
off and you know how big of a star he was.
It's like some people actually were in some cases bigger
than the law.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
They were above the law.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
And I would say that if there was, you were
drawing a conclusion just based off of all of the
given evidence that we were we were because I mean, man,
I was in grade school when that happened. I can't
where that was at bro I can remember this joint. Man,
it divided the entire country nineteen ninety four. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It turned into like black versus white, white versus black.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
I was first off, I was like, I'm not in
no black versus white, white versus black thing over nothing
somebody else than done. Like this was not no civil
rights type stuff going on. This was murder Like is
he innocent or is he guilty? That's all I'm saying.
I never understood why it turned into a black white thing.
(30:51):
And you know, being black meant being innocent, being being
white meant he was guilty. I never understood why the
narrative aren't so like aggressively and violently into this racial divide.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It was just a matter of did he do it
or did he not do it?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
And it was like, I ain't gonna lie to you
when he was found innocent, and people like, if you
were black, you were celebrating that he was innocent. If
you were white, you were just appalled at the fact
that he was was found innocent. I was like, I
was like walking around nervous. I can remember what I
(31:30):
was ay bad, Like I was like it was open
season on me, like I ain't do it. I can
recall feeling like like being nervous to be black because
OJ Simpson was found innocent.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Man, it was a lot of things about that that
I didn't understand the time. I was what fourteen fourteen
or fifteen fifteen, No, it was before then.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
It was before. It was nineteen it was nineteen ninety four.
Was it ninety four? Yes, I was fifteen nineteen ninety
I graduated. I thought it was he thought I was. Man,
you graduated high school.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yes, something may maybe that's why it was worse. Maybe
we wise dang, Yeah we were in high school. I
was a sophomore in high school. Yeah when it happened. Yeah,
you just thought you were younger than what you thought
you were.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's so long, hey, bro, that I had I have
what's that call post traumatic syndrome.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Thirty years ago, thirty eight. That's crazy man. All right,
let's get it, let's take a break. I think the
conclusion is the conclusion. I mean, it's it's hard to
kind of celebrate the man's life. It's hard to celebrate
the man's life. But nonetheless, that's crazy man. Whatever snide
you fall on on O. J. Simpson's passing, he passed
(32:54):
away at seventy six, once a football like con turn
an American pariah of sorts of infamous uh former athlete.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And that's I guess that's that's how it ends, uh,
for for O. J. Simpson and in his life and
and his his legacy.
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Quick segment here, but I wanted to ask you guys
about Jared goff Uh, taking aim at the Detroit media,
said that the Detroit media quote relish and negativity. I
find that to be interesting because sometimes a city's personality is,
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what's that?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Do we have sound on it? Oh? Perfect? Perfect? Let
let's listen to the sound on it. I love to
get y'all's response on it.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
I have this, like I probably need to drop it
pretty soon here because I'm gonna hopefully be in Detroit
for a long time. But I have this thing with
our local media where like they they almost like relish
in negativity at times, and maybe that's what gets clicks
and that's what sells. It's it's it's no longer what
they need to live in. Like, hey, guys, like we
have a good team, We've had success, Like we can
(34:43):
be happy about that, we can celebrate that and not
have to write about how like we're constantly the underdog,
Like no, like teams are gonna be gunning them for
us now, like we won the division and all that,
and I'm probably overthinking in my head just because it's
the chip on my shoulder and the the competitor and me.
But in that moment, I was just giving that guy
a hard time. I actually really like him.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
How you guys feel about that.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I'm welcome to Michigan, Yeah, and welcome to the Welcome
to the city of Detroit, and a lot of good
things to talk about in Detroit. That's just that's just
the reality of life up there to three to one
three and on the east, on the east side and
the south side and the west side and everything that
(35:27):
they got going on. Now, over the last couple of years,
this Detroit Lines football team has been winning games, but
the thirty previous prior seasons they've been absolutely awful. And
look at what in this state, the state of the
Detroit Pistons right now. They came with a ball game.
(35:51):
It used to be a hockey town. Back in the
eighties and the early nineties, it was Detroit Pistons. Now
you're talking about the media in Detroit is all they
talk about.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Isaive. A negative, negative is being negative?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Well, fix it and and and in all actuality and reality,
the only way that you're going to fix it if
you be consistent and continue to win and maybe hoist
a Lombardi one day. But until then, the media, they
are going to be who they are. This is Detroit.
(36:27):
This is not Santa Barbara, it's not Sonny Our's beach.
We're talking about Detroit. So so, Jared Golf, if you
have a problem with the media, go out and win
some football games and then they will continue, hopefully or
(36:48):
maybe they say good things about you and this football team.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
The Detroit Lions have been They've been a bad team
for years now the last couple of years are changing.
That narrative started because a Beat writer asks Jared Goff
prior to their game against the forty nine ers, man,
are you guys concerned they have all this talent? And
Jared Goff is like, we have talent as well, like
(37:13):
we have quite a few first team All pros, And
that bugged him that here you are asking me about
how great of a team of forty nine ers are
and you're not talking about us, and you're not talking
about our players, and that that bugged them.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
But it's what you just said.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
But the Detroit Lions have historically been bad, the last
couple of years they've been good. If they continue to
win the narrative will obviously it will change.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It will change, but you have to do it.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
And be consistent as a winner as a franchise, and
maybe you can do that, then it changes.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Did But do you know that what.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Jared Goff just did to himself moving forward, he has
he put himself in a position to have no change,
go out and be good or great or stella every
single weekend because what he just said and put out
that to the media that right there is going to
come back to bite him during the season. Jared Golf
attacked the people, the same people that he's going to
(38:16):
want to support his team exactly, and so the only
way they're gonna support him now is if you do well,
you attack those people.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
You better ball out. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I wanted to get your take on it perfect, but
we got to get to the break. Listen, you gotta
be willing to deal with guys who have negative takes.
It is just part of the business, part of the game.
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I'm good man, just been doing a little ripping and
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y'all how y'all being man?
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Yeah, traveling?
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We got uh this crazy to see Elijah out here,
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doors off. You know, see little Man man doing the
same thing. It's just it's evolution of these kids. Man,
right in front of our eyes. Man, they just growing
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Man. Just like you say, man, I's been on the groove. Man.
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Like the last month I went down to you know
Ndeed know the Dame for the spring, and then last
weekend I was in Cleveland on Hio. My daughter was
playing in the All American Basketball Game and the woman
n CUAA final four. This this weekend, we me and
me and myself and little Man, we just got out
here to Charlotte, North Carolina. So we're gonna be going
(02:33):
to the Rivals football camp tomorrow nice and put a
stamp on it. So, man, just all over the place
right now. But you know what this Saturday, Voltron is
back to Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody's back together. We can
fight evil.
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And when you know what I mean, we got it.
We got it going on.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And speaking of fighting evil, and when it fellas I
wanted to start off the show with the discussion.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Been hearing reports.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Out of Dallas that Cde Lamb could potentially be a
holdout candidate for this upcoming season. And also we'red from
inside that there's multiple people, more than people would would
imagine that are saying they would have no problem if
(03:25):
if Dallas were to part ways with Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I wanted to start that.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I wanted to start to show off with this and
get y'all's perspective on first, Let's start with cdee Lamb.
Is this a good Is this a good move for
Cede Lamb? If they don't extend him. He did wait
another year, he didn't get an extension this past season.
Uh so this will be the final year of his contract.
(03:52):
Is this the right move for cdee Lamb to to
potentially hold out, if if not even in up holding
out for a new contract.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Listen, man number one. The Cowboys need to start being
proactive instead of reactive. Meaning when you have a young
player and you know he's a cornerstone player, Sonny, what
you waiting on? You didn't learn from Dak Dak Prescott's
(04:26):
contract didn't teach you guys a lesson.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
You wait, you wait, and you wait, and that means
it's greater later.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
You're gonna pay way more later than you would pay
if you get out in front of this, Like, you
can't let a guy in see thee Lamb yet you've
drafted high in the first round.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
You can't let him go. You have to sign them.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
And the longer you wait, the more you're going to pay.
Like it's almost crazy that they haven't negotiated something with
he now because it's, oh, we don't want to pay
him this, Well, guess what you're gonna pay him later
more than this.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And so.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
If I'm City Lamb, it's a business because the way
the Cowboys are approaching this right now, they're approaching it
as a business. But when the player approaches it as
a business. Oh why are you holding down? You gonna
be with your teammates and be for the team. No,
(05:30):
you approach it the same way they approach it as
a business. And so for City Lamb, he'll be playing
on this fifth year option this season, which would be
just just a tad under eighteen million dollars. But he's earned,
he's earned a long term deal, and so would I report.
(05:54):
I would probably report. But the smart thing for him
to do is to hold out, like I'm not going
I'm not going to OTAs.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm going to everything that's mandatory. That's me.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
But in today's game, with what as much money as
these kids are making now, man, you have to do
what's best for you and approach it as a business
because they always approach it that way.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I mean, the number is going to be what the
number is. I mean, that's just the going rate for
all star wide receiver in this league.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's just what it is now.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
And from Dallas, I just I really just don't understand it,
because I mean, if you're the Dallas Cowboys, we're talking
about CD Lamb, he's arguably your best player on offense.
We know what the numbers are, we know what the
Justin Jeffersons are looking for the Jamar Chasers, all these
guys getting ready to come through the ranks. But for
Dallas Cowboys, without of cde Lamb, you don't have an offense.
(06:52):
So do you think that you're going to try to
set a president in not negotiating or trying to sign
Cede Lamb to bring him back to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Go out there and find somebody better. I don't think
that's gonna be the case at all, because when we're
talking about cde Lamb, he is easily one of the
top five players at his position, and you just don't
go into the draft or try to get somebody in
free agency because there's probably only three or four, maybe
two or three guys in the world that are better
(07:25):
than him than what he does. So if you're the
Dallas Cowboys, what else are you going to do? What
else are you going to do except sign them?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And the man?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Just like you said, DJ, the man has earned a
long term deal. And that's what these players are doing.
They listen, They basically have all the leverage these days.
And not to say that he has not earned it,
He has earned the right to say, you know what,
I'm not going to attend mini camp. OTA's I may
(07:59):
be a hold out going in the training camp.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I just don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
But why wouldn't the Dallas Cowboys not sit down with
Ceedee Lamb and his asient and try to rectify this
before these things go south.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'm pretty sure he wants to stay in Dallas. He
wants to remain in Dallas. But for them to not.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Exercise the option of giving this man a long term deal,
it just makes no sense at all.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
All right, Let's quickly transition into Michael Parsons and the
conversations coming from within being.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Leaked supposedly allegedly.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
That there are multiple people more than people would imagine
that are basically saying that he's become difficult to deal
with or whatever, and that they wouldn't you know, whoever
these who they are people are, they wouldn't have a
problem if Michael Parsons wasn't in the building as a
(09:00):
as a Dallas Cowboy in the in the future, once
he's uh, you know, able to become a free agent
or something else may happen. I don't know, I find
out to be crazy. But what I mean what's y'alls,
what's y'all's take on that?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Trade them? Trade them? Then?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
If you really feel that way, it's almost Uh. I
don't understand, man, why these teams put these narratives out there?
Speaker 7 (09:26):
Man?
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Because honestly, when that story comes out, why don't the
Cowboys get out in front of that as soon as
it comes out and says, oh, no, no, no, no,
no no, we don't have a problem with Michael. We
don't know where this is coming from. Why have it
Why has it been radio silence since that report was
(09:48):
first leaked?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Why?
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Why because now players can do a podcast during the season.
Why because players can get their truth out, their story
out from their point of view, you don't have.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
To go through them.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Why why I try to assassinate the man's character in
who he is and oh, it's his act is kind
of just running thin.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's wearing people out. Okay, trade them, trade them.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
If you don't like the way he's acting, trade them,
And if it's not true, come out and say something
to say that it isn't true. Because you do it
any other time, You do it any other time, and
so why not do it now with your best player?
He's the best player on Dallas Cowboys offense and defense.
He's the best player on the team. And so if
(10:35):
you were to trade him, guess what you can get
a king's ransom for a guy that has rubbed.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
People the wrong way.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
So if people don't like them, why not get a
king's ransom and get rid of a nuisance. That's what
I would do, right of course you would, no, And
so like I just he's up for a huge contract.
They're gonna pay him. He probably the highest paid defensive
player ever in the history the league. They're trying to
lower his value by assassinating his character and that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Man.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
We're talking about Michael Parsons. Yes, we're talking about Michael
Parsons and the possibility of him not being a Dallas Cowboy.
He is one of those one of these generational athletes
and players playing the defensive end position that we have
seen over the last twenty years. Ar could be one
(11:28):
of the best right now. And if you're Jared Jones,
you have to be halfway crazy if you want to
get rid of or part ways with Michael Passons. It's
like you said to that you can get a Kings transformed.
But for the next ten years, you'll probably be the
worst team in the division. So it makes no sense
(11:50):
for us even to be entertaining the fact that Michael
Passs is not going to be a part of this
football team. It's like you said, they are trying to
assess fascinate this man's character because these contracts that these
guys are getting defensively or who just signed the biggest
contract as a defensive alignment?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Who was that? Bos was the one I got? Yeah, Bosa?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And can we not sit here and say today that
you think that you don't think Michael Parsons is a
better player than Bosam.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You can make the argument either way. You can make
the argument. As long as you can make the argument,
then the argument is. The argument is the argument. So
let's just so let's just stay there and say that.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
If it's an argument, if we have an argument that
one is one A and one is one B, then
the contract is what it is. Nobody's going to be
able to get away from giving these guys these contracts
because they have created this themselves, the players rightfully so,
(12:59):
and the owners to these players are recognizing that, you
know what, I have an opportunity to do something financially
that even when I started playing this game on coming
into this league.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It's even bigger than what I thought it was.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
And these players are going to do everything in their
power to get everything that they deserve. And Michael Parsons,
if Bosa is the highest played defensive player in the league,
then Michael Parsons he needs to be right there with
them or being paid more than a Bosa.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'll say that's heading into the break Fellas.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Both topics put together, and a conclusion coming from it
is this just speaks to what apparently looks to be dysfunction,
and the dysfunction that you would say you equate to
why a team that has so much talent can't win.
You go from you go from big name player the
(14:01):
big name player, and it just seems like when you
hear things like this, if that's what's what's coming from
inside of the offices of the facilities of the team itself,
take Dallas out of the equation. If you're hearing that
from any team out there or any organization out there,
(14:23):
that says total dysfunction to me, why would you allow
for that, as you mentioned TJ, why would you allow
for that to be a narrative that isn't combat.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It addressed immediately upon hearing it, and it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
So maybe they did it internally, but that still doesn't
do anything for those two young men externally as it
applies to how the fan base and how the media
are taking hold of it. But it'd be interesting to
see how that plays out. You're listening to up on Game.
That's TJ. Hitchman's out as Flexiko Burd's. I'm LeVar Arrington.
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gonna talk about Jared goff.
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In a little bit.
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He had some interesting things to say about the Detroit media.
I'm curious about what you guys think about that. But
first let's visit the conversation of OJ Simpson passing away
this past week dies at seventy six. I'm just I'm
(17:35):
trying to think of what direction to take the conversation
in Fellas, and I guess the most maybe most relevant
one would be, is OJ Simpson the most despised hated
sports hero that you can think of in the history
(17:58):
of sports? Because I can honestly say I have not
heard too much, if any, narratives that would be considered
to be positive about OJ Simpson. The biggest story and
the biggest conversation point with OJ Simpson is clearly and
(18:23):
obviously the double murders that took place, that he was
accused of and found innocent of doing it. Now, granted,
keep in mind, the burden of proof is to prove
that that's what you did.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Without a doubt.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I think that's how you said, I don't know, but anyway,
it's not the fact that I don't know. Anyways, I
don't want to get into the legal jargon of it all.
Is this guy the most hated, Like he's dead now,
he died, he passed away, and yet people are are happy,
They're super happy that he's died. They're they're they're right
(19:05):
raveling and the reveling and the idea of him, you know,
being dead and having no sympathies towards it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Is this the right approach? How how do you feel
about it?
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Man? This is this is tough, LeVar, because when when
you when you talk about oh J. Simpson a football player,
one of the greatest running backs to ever play.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But it's hard to just talk about oh J.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Simpson a football player without bringing up and at least
being aware of what he went to trial for Although
he was found not guilty, many including myself, felt he
was guilty. I mean, you don't hop in the Bronco
(19:56):
and get on the ninety one freeway. I mean he
would rolling right by my house. And so if you
don't do that, and it sucks for the families of
the victims, his children, himself. But he was found not
guilty of it, and again many people thought he was guilty.
(20:17):
And I felt like society got him back when he
ended up having to go to prison. Although he was
able to come out of prison and it looks like
lead somewhat of a productive life.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
But when you.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Take the lives of two people, and again, although he
was found not guilty, this is just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Man.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
It's tough that when you hear that name, that's the
first thing I think about it. I don't even think
about the football player anymore. I think about kids that
don't have their mother any longer and parents that don't
know they no longer have their children, And so that
there is tough. It's hard to uh think of that
(21:02):
name and not have the empathy towards those that were affected.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Man, it's it's kind of you know, uh, you know,
mixed emotions. I think all across the board. I've know,
I've met Ojay and you know, sat down and had
conversations with him. But but the people, a lot, most
of the people that that I know who are friends
(21:31):
of oj You gotta remember, like back in you know,
his time man they say as a hero.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You know, he was a hero.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
He was more recognizable than the president at one time
based off of you know, his college career at USC
Heisman Trophy and obviously you know, being the first running
back in history to run for two thousand yards back
in you know the seventies, and you know, all of
those things and then you know, everything transpired. I think
(21:59):
that the the saddest part about it is that like
nobody got any closure, like those people that were passed away,
and now you know, he has perished, and it's just
unfortunate that, you know, I don't know who, I don't
have an opinion, but it is a legacy of himself
(22:22):
is what it's going to be. It just depends on
you know, what side of the fence you are, you know,
with O. J. Simpson as far as you know, just
like you said, TJ, like you know, everybody has their
own you know, speculation or opinion of him, but he
went to court and he was felt not guilty, but
that would never be enough, I feel like, so it's
(22:45):
kind of for me I have. I had a chance
to meet him and sit down with him a few
times man, and you know, obviously I have some good
conversations with him. But at the end of the day,
I mean, just like you said, people, parents, his legacy
will go on as whatever you portray it to be
(23:05):
or however you feel you know about him, and that's
what is always going to be for Oj Simpson. It's
just this unfortunate thing for him and in his family
extended family who are still living. Those are the people
that are going to have to live with that and
carry that on with them too, for the rest of
(23:26):
their lives.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
You know. The first thing I kind of when I
sat on when this happened, because I had to talk
about we were on air on two Pros and a
Cup of Joe when the well, we were doing the
Dan Patrick Show when the news broke. Don't y'all find
it kind of strange that there was never a very
very assertive effort and attempt by Oj Simpson.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Two really really clear up the fact that he did
not do it felt like I mean, obviously, again this
is my opinion.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
He felt like.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
The trial was it cleared up everything that that's what
he felt. I mean, obviously, why would he come out
and say something because he went.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
To trial, because the world continued to say exactly what
you are saying and saying the and spewing the hate
towards him that that it did. Why wouldn't he make
an assertive effort to like, why would you come out
with books if I were to do it type stuff?
(24:34):
Like why were these narratives coming out? I just to myself,
you were such a major sports figure. You were nicknamed
the juice. Everybody. Everybody knew who he was, Like you said, plex,
everybody was a fan.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I mean him and Jim Brown were one of the
first two football players that kind of turned into movie stars.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean he was a movie are brot? Yeah, I
mean he was on that level. He was on that level.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
The majority of society had already formed an opinion prior
to the trial. They had already formed an opinion he
was guilty, he did it. Why did he run? If
you not, if you're not guilty, you're not running and
so a lot of people had already formed.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
And by the way, another another major piece of that
is he I mean, he had a gun and was
talking about he was going to end it.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You know what. You got a gun in the backseat
of the car for in the truck, and you're about
to end it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And it's kind of crazy to me that, in knowing
that you had the opportunity to have one of the
most iconic legacies connected to sport, you turned into one
of the most polarizing, infamous people maybe ever in the
history of sports. And I just find it intriguing that
(26:08):
this is this is one of those those stories where
it's like this man just died, like he just passed away,
And I don't I almost feel like there was like
a collective sense of relief that the man passed away.
I don't know that I've ever felt or heard or
experienced anything like this in my entire life.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Hey, Lava, let me ask you something. Let me ask
you a question. Let me ask you a question. How
do you feel about the fact that, to my knowledge,
that not one teammate that he played with put anything
out on social media about him as being the man
(26:52):
little football player that they played with not one teammate
said anything.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I mean I did, and I didn't really see anything
coming out that outside of like the obvious, like the
family statements, stuff like that. There was nothing positive that
came out about him. Nothing and you could you could
throw in there, like you know, contemporaries like Marcus Allen,
you know, different things like that. You know, I think
(27:21):
that the Hosmotrophy posted something which I thought was was
was crazy nice about about that, But from a teammates standpoint,
not one.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Because teammates knew him before you played with yea in.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
College and in professional and nobody that had my man
back to say anything good about him as a man
or a football player.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I mean, I don't know if Marcus put something on
his story and I missed it, but I know he
didn't put nothing on his on his I g about it.
That would have been the one I would have, you know,
I looked for and wanted to see what that, what
that looked like, what that represented that that didn't take place.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I really feel like, I really feel.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Like in this instant, in this instance that again I
think the the over overwhelming conclusion to his passing was
that people were relieved that he was gone.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Like, that's crazy to me and Laura.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That's exactly what it is. Yeah, mistake about it because
you're not the only one. You have said it and
put it out for everybody here. You are exactly right.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
But when the majority of society believed it was guilty,
of course, that's going to be the feeling of most
is Hey, you.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Know what's crazy, TJ.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Not to step on you, but what's crazy about what
you continuing to say he was he was, he did
this and he wasn't found guilty. You know what the
craziest thing is, I almost feel like if if he
had committed the crimes and went to jail, people would
have been like, oh, OJ died this and that. I
(29:27):
think the fact that he was found innocent, yes, and
was able at some point to actually walk around as
a free man and enjoyed life. And it looked like
he was living it up too, Like you said, productive,
it looked like he was. He was just golfing and
talking talking what he's talking his talk with Cameron and Mason,
(29:48):
Like it just seemed like the fact that he got
off and you know how big of a star he was.
It's like some people actually were in some cases bigger
than the law.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
They were above the law.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
And I would say that if there was, you were
drawing a conclusion just based off of all of the
given evidence that we were we were because I mean, man,
I was in grade school when that happened. I can't
where that was at bro I can remember this joint. Man,
it divided the entire country nineteen ninety four. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It turned into like black versus white, white versus black.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
I was first off, I was like, I'm not in
no black versus white, white versus black thing over nothing
somebody else than done. Like this was not no civil
rights type stuff going on. This was murder Like is
he innocent or is he guilty? That's all I'm saying.
I never understood why it turned into a black white thing.
(30:51):
And you know, being black meant being innocent, being being
white meant he was guilty. I never understood why the
narrative aren't so like aggressively and violently into this racial divide.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It was just a matter of did he do it
or did he not do it?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
And it was like, I ain't gonna lie to you
when he was found innocent, and people like, if you
were black, you were celebrating that he was innocent. If
you were white, you were just appalled at the fact
that he was was found innocent. I was like, I
was like walking around nervous. I can remember what I
(31:30):
was ay bad, Like I was like it was open
season on me, like I ain't do it. I can
recall feeling like like being nervous to be black because
OJ Simpson was found innocent.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Man, it was a lot of things about that that
I didn't understand the time. I was what fourteen fourteen
or fifteen fifteen, No, it was before then.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
It was before. It was nineteen it was nineteen ninety four.
Was it ninety four? Yes, I was fifteen nineteen ninety
I graduated. I thought it was he thought I was. Man,
you graduated high school.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yes, something may maybe that's why it was worse. Maybe
we wise dang, Yeah we were in high school. I
was a sophomore in high school. Yeah when it happened. Yeah,
you just thought you were younger than what you thought
you were.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's so long, hey, bro, that I had I have
what's that call post traumatic syndrome.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Thirty years ago, thirty eight. That's crazy man. All right,
let's get it, let's take a break. I think the
conclusion is the conclusion. I mean, it's it's hard to
kind of celebrate the man's life. It's hard to celebrate
the man's life. But nonetheless, that's crazy man. Whatever snide
you fall on on O. J. Simpson's passing, he passed
(32:54):
away at seventy six, once a football like con turn
an American pariah of sorts of infamous uh former athlete.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And that's I guess that's that's how it ends, uh,
for for O. J. Simpson and in his life and
and his his legacy.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
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Speaker 1 (33:51):
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Speaker 4 (33:53):
Quick segment here, but I wanted to ask you guys
about Jared goff Uh, taking aim at the Detroit media,
said that the Detroit media quote relish and negativity. I
find that to be interesting because sometimes a city's personality is,
(34:14):
what's that?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Do we have sound on it? Oh? Perfect? Perfect? Let
let's listen to the sound on it. I love to
get y'all's response on it.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
I have this, like I probably need to drop it
pretty soon here because I'm gonna hopefully be in Detroit
for a long time. But I have this thing with
our local media where like they they almost like relish
in negativity at times, and maybe that's what gets clicks
and that's what sells. It's it's it's no longer what
they need to live in. Like, hey, guys, like we
have a good team, We've had success, Like we can
(34:43):
be happy about that, we can celebrate that and not
have to write about how like we're constantly the underdog,
Like no, like teams are gonna be gunning them for
us now, like we won the division and all that,
and I'm probably overthinking in my head just because it's
the chip on my shoulder and the the competitor and me.
But in that moment, I was just giving that guy
a hard time. I actually really like him.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
How you guys feel about that.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I'm welcome to Michigan, Yeah, and welcome to the Welcome
to the city of Detroit, and a lot of good
things to talk about in Detroit. That's just that's just
the reality of life up there to three to one
three and on the east, on the east side and
the south side and the west side and everything that
(35:27):
they got going on. Now, over the last couple of years,
this Detroit Lines football team has been winning games, but
the thirty previous prior seasons they've been absolutely awful. And
look at what in this state, the state of the
Detroit Pistons right now. They came with a ball game.
(35:51):
It used to be a hockey town. Back in the
eighties and the early nineties, it was Detroit Pistons. Now
you're talking about the media in Detroit is all they
talk about.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Isaive. A negative, negative is being negative?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Well, fix it and and and in all actuality and reality,
the only way that you're going to fix it if
you be consistent and continue to win and maybe hoist
a Lombardi one day. But until then, the media, they
are going to be who they are. This is Detroit.
(36:27):
This is not Santa Barbara, it's not Sonny Our's beach.
We're talking about Detroit. So so, Jared Golf, if you
have a problem with the media, go out and win
some football games and then they will continue, hopefully or
(36:48):
maybe they say good things about you and this football team.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
The Detroit Lions have been They've been a bad team
for years now the last couple of years are changing.
That narrative started because a Beat writer asks Jared Goff
prior to their game against the forty nine ers, man,
are you guys concerned they have all this talent? And
Jared Goff is like, we have talent as well, like
(37:13):
we have quite a few first team All pros, And
that bugged him that here you are asking me about
how great of a team of forty nine ers are
and you're not talking about us, and you're not talking
about our players, and that that bugged them.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
But it's what you just said.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
But the Detroit Lions have historically been bad, the last
couple of years they've been good. If they continue to
win the narrative will obviously it will change.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It will change, but you have to do it.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
And be consistent as a winner as a franchise, and
maybe you can do that, then it changes.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Did But do you know that what.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Jared Goff just did to himself moving forward, he has
he put himself in a position to have no change,
go out and be good or great or stella every
single weekend because what he just said and put out
that to the media that right there is going to
come back to bite him during the season. Jared Golf
attacked the people, the same people that he's going to
(38:16):
want to support his team exactly, and so the only
way they're gonna support him now is if you do well,
you attack those people.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
You better ball out. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I wanted to get your take on it perfect, but
we got to get to the break. Listen, you gotta
be willing to deal with guys who have negative takes.
It is just part of the business, part of the game.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
This is up on game.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
This Fox Sports Radio Hour two is coming at you.
We're gonna start off the next hour with some Tiger
Woods talk. All right, make sure you stay tuned, and
we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right
back for hour two.
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