Steve Hartman and Rich Ohrnberger talk NBA Season Finale and more!

Steve Hartman and Rich Ohrnberger talk about the end of the NBA season and the likely Finals matchups, how close Tiger Woods is to the end as he fades out at The Masters, the wild card of the 2024 NFL Draft, the future of the Los Angeles Lakers as they try to avoid being the 10 seed, updates on The Masters, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:30):
teams are in action today, fifteen games to wrap up
the regular season. And let's put it this way, we
could take the entire three hours to try to explain
all the different playoff scenarios. I've never seen an NBA
season end with so many uncertainties as far as who

(00:52):
is going to play who in both the play in
tournament and the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Uh, it's pretty magnificent when you really think about it. However,
I will say this, does this not annoy everybody else?
You know, I get that there's intrigue, I get that
there's you know, just about every single NBA market can
have a claim to the postseason down the stretch of

(01:19):
the season. But that makes the regular season less important overall.
Of course, down the stretch of the regular season, games
become way more urgent, but it absolutely makes the postseason
less special because twenty teams get a legitimate shot in
your postseason to make it to the championship round, or

(01:40):
I should say, or win a championship. So I'm bothered
by how the NBA has structured the end of their
season and the beginning of their postseason because it's not special.
It doesn't feel like you got to be an incredibly
gifted team. In fact, there's gonna be probably sub five
hundred team's getting into postseasons here and now and into

(02:03):
the future.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well last year, remember we had the Heat go from
the play in round all the way to the NBA Finals,
and we had the Lakers from the play in round
make it to the Western Conference finals. So you know,
it's like the first four in the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
I understand what you're saying. I mean, at the professional level,
that you have twenty of the thirty teams extend their

(02:26):
season beyond the regular season is excessive. The idea that
they I mean, they're going to point to what's happening
on this final day of the regular season saying.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Hey, it works. Look at this, I mean, look at it.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I mean, let's just talk about the Los Angeles Lakers
and their scenario right now. So the Lakers go into
the final day as the eighth seed. Now under the
old format, that would qualify and for the playoffs, they.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Would be the eighth seed.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
By the end of the day, they could be back
to the ten seed. The Lakers are on the road
against the Pelicans. The Pelicans have to win to guarantee
them not being in the play and round, because if
the Pelicans lose and the Suns win, the Sons would
be the sixth seed. Pelicans go into the play in round.
So the Lakers on the road against a team that

(03:10):
needs to win today. Meanwhile, the Warriors are home against
a Jazz team that's already out of the playoffs, and
the Kings are home against the awful Blazers.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
So you got to believe that.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
The Kings and Warriors at home are gonna win games
against teams that have nothing to play for. And if
the Lakers lose on the road to the Pelicans, which
they probably will, then the Lakers are ten seat And
then all of a sudden, you got Lebron and Anthony
Davis on the road against either the Kings or Warriors,

(03:43):
and if they lose their out, I mean again, you
want to keep your stars in the spotlight as much
as possible, and this could be counterproductive for the NBA.
So again, we're not gonna try to sit here and say, well,
if this team wins, I mean it would take all
day to try to figure out the scenarios. I just
look at this NBA Playoffs and I say to myself,

(04:06):
based on the eyeball test, this should end up, after
all said and done, a matchup between the Celtics and
the Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean the Celtics obviously have just steamrolled through the
Eastern Conference unless I don't know how a team in
the East is going to beat them in a four
out of seven series. No, and the Nuggets, obviously, even
though I know, look Oklahoma City, Minnesota, they're great stories,
but they don't have a proven track record like the
Nuggets have after winning the championship year ago.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
So unless there's.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
A colossal upset, I mean, that's where I think we're
going in terms of an NBA Finals matchup.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, it's one of those one of those things in
Boston where Brad Stevens left the bench and became one
of the best basketball executives in the sport, and that
transition I think gives you even more perspective on how
to be a great executive, knowing what it feels like
to be the guy who's at the you know, on

(05:03):
the last seat on the bench and making all the
decisions on the court. And so I think the Boston
Celtics are one of the most hemmed up franchises in
the league right now, and it's going to be tough
to beat them, not now, but also what it is
tough to beat them now but also into the future
because they're a very stable franchise. And then the Denver Nuggets,

(05:25):
they're doing it the same way, but it's starting at
the ground level with the players. You know, with Jokic,
I mean, he's steady Eddie. He is going to be
the same star every single season. You know, of course,
you're going to want to count your blessings that he's
not not incurred any major injuries or anything like that

(05:46):
to slow down what has been a dominant span. But
that's absolutely a player you can build around, and I
don't see him going anywhere. I don't think this is
the type of player or the personality who's going to
chase fame and stardom around the NBA like Lebron James did.
I don't think he's he wants to have the multi

(06:09):
franchise championship tag too his legacy.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I don't think it matters to him.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I think that this is what you see, what you
get with Jokich, and what you see as a guy
who's dedicated to winning and to the sport and to
playing great basketball and then going back to his home
country of Serbia and I guess buying horses in the
offseason and then come back and do it all over again.
And like I said, with Boston, they just have a
very stable franchise. So until further notice, this is what

(06:39):
the West and the East in the NBA is going
to look like.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
All roads go through those two cities.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
That's a problem though, when you talk about Jokich from
a basketball standpoint, he is near perfection. When do you
think about it again, look at his numbers this year,
as he is most likely gonna win his third MVP
Award in the last four years, twenty six and a
half points a game, twelve and a half rebounds a game, nine.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Assists a game.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean, these are remarkable numbers for a by and
large non athletic basketball player, which is why he was
a second round pick. But obviously we're talking about a
guy whose basketball IQ is literally off the charts and
does he's like Tim Duncan was with San Antonio, and
he's more of a passer than Duncan.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
But you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
So funny we talk about this Caitlin Clark situation. Fred Ridley,
I don't know if you saw this. Fred Ridley, who's
the chairman of the Masters, was asked a question by
Christine Brennan of USA Today and on the LPGA tour

(07:48):
right now.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
There is a.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Woman that has won four straight tournaments and she was
asking why this US play who's won four straight tournaments
is not getting the kind of attention that Caitlyn Clark got.
And I thought, Fred really fred Ridley said it best
he goes when it comes to athletes. And by the way,

(08:13):
this Nellie Korda is her name, Nellie Cordy. She's won
four straight tournaments and she's, you know, a US golfer
and everything.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I mean, she checks a lot of boxes here, he said,
no one knows who she is.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
And so he said, look, you can't explain why it
is that certain athletes like a Michael Jordan back in
the day, like a Tiger Woods, why it is they
literally move the needle. But Caitlin Clark has the it factor.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
It can't. It's not just doing well.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
There's a lot of great athletes to do special things
in their individual sports. But why do certain athletes move
the needle? He goes, I'll be honest with you, I
don't watch women's basketball. I watched her last three games.
I mean, the women's final got a bigger number than
the men's and it wasn't even close.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Although the women's final, I mean it started encroaching into
the territory or beating some of the numbers that we
see for primetime NFL game.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes, yeah, I mean it blew away the average on
Thursday night football. I have eighteen million people are watching
that South Carolina Iowa game. But that gets down to
a guy like Jokic, as great as he is, he.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Ain't moving the needle. No, I mean we had that run.
You and I were a big part of that.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
You know, when we had Steph versus Lebron in four
consecutive NBA finals. That moved the needle. You know, you
had Lebron and Steph. Those guys moved the needle. Yeah,
when they get on the biggest exactly. But it's even
more than that. You gotta be Steph Curry is that
next level star, Lebron is that next level star. Because

(09:50):
then what happens is to me, if you're moving the needle,
it has to be on both ends.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
In other words, you're you're so polarizing.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And Caitlin Klars is experiencing this where she has obviously
a lot of fans, but a lot of detractors.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, well that's.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
When you know you're really moving the needle.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
When you are a star, whether you like it or not,
you're going to have just as many many people who
hate you as you have people who love you. But
you'll have all of the people, or i should say
all of those people interested in you. And see, that's
the thing that a lot of people struggle with because
it's difficult to handle that life. You got to have

(10:31):
rhino skin. You got to be able to continue performing
in your given sport. We're talking, of course about a
sports star there's obviously stars in every business. There's stars enacting,
there's stars in politics, there's stars in many in music,
in many different professions that are of interest to a
wide stretching.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Sampling of people.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
And in sports, the problem for a basketball player, the
problem for a baseball player, the problem for even a
football player is whether it's seventeen games or one hundred
and sixty two or eighty two nights, you got to
go out there and perform like a star. And if
you don't, well, you're gonna lose your stardom because people
are gonna be like, ah, as soon as the lights

(11:15):
turned on, they couldn't handle it. You know, they were
a great but they were great when they didn't receive
all the attention that a star receives. And then as
soon as the heat started again turned up on this player.
And this has happened in the past, We've seen it
many times, all of a sudden, the play started to suffer. Well,
Caitlin Clark, to her credit, she's an absolute star. She

(11:37):
could handle the spotlight and she performed arguably even better
with the spotlight on her.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
A guy like.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Jokic, now everybody would love to make him a star.
But he doesn't want it, and there are ways to
avoid it. There are ways to throw water on it,
and he's done everything in his power to throw water
on it. He's done it. Another NBA or in Kawhi
Leonard has done it any chance that there was to

(12:05):
make him into a superstar. And trust me, media outlets
and sports stations have wanted to do this for years
and he only does the press that's required of him.
Same with Jokich. He only answers questions the way he
wants to. He never thinks about the fan or what
would the fan think is fun or cool? Or how

(12:27):
to make myself more available to the fan. No, he's
not interested in that. You know, Kawhi Leonard just wants
to be a basketball player, and that's okay. You know,
Jokich all he wants to be as a basketball player
and in the offseason he wants everyone to just leave
him alone. And that's okay, except if you're an NBA
executive and you realize, oh my gosh, for the next
three years, it feels like we may have Jokic winning

(12:50):
finals and finals MVPs and it does nothing for anybody.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, I mean, and that's the problem. If the face
of your Tim Duncan was white. This way with San Antonio.
I mean every time the Spurs were in the finals,
the ratings dropped dramatically. I mean, if you look at
their five championships, every one of those years, those ratings
for the NBA finals were way down. And and you know, again,

(13:17):
Tim Dugget didn't care. Greg Papavisch didn't care. They were
out there to win championships. But this is where the
NBA is right now. If the Nuggets win another championship,
which I still think if it's if it's a Nugget
Celtics final, I'm taking the Nuggets. I just think they
have more depth and they have the dominant player on
the court in Yokich. All right, coming up on the
other side, we're going to talk about what maybe the

(13:41):
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You'll see this show posted right after we get off
the air. All right, so the final three groups in
this year's Masters are about to tee off. I'll have
Bryson De'shambeau, Xanderschaffle, Max Homer and Ludwig Oberg, and then

(14:25):
the final pairing of Scotti Scheffler and Colin Morikawa.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
It should be a great day.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
By the way, There's been already a couple of good
scores posted today, So after a couple of tough days,
a lot of winning everything else, it looks like today
has got perfect day out of Augusta National. So it
is a very possible day for somebody to shoot a
low score and come away with that green jacket. One
guy that will not walk away with a green jacket
and has secured his spot at the bottom of the

(14:54):
list in this year's Masters is Tiger Woods. Of the
sixty golfers that made the cut this year, Tiger will
finish dead last, as he finished at sixteen over par
shot a seventy seven today after yesterday's eighty two, which
was his Sia score.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
At the Masters, he of course made the cut, which
was a record twenty fourth consecutive year that he made
the cut. And Rich Yesterday, Montsie and I were talking
about this Tiger Woods situation, and she brought up the
fact that, you know, this might be the last Masters
he ever plays, because he broke this record, you know,

(15:31):
most consecutive cuts. I mean he has, you know, he's
never gonna get Let's put it this way. I mentioned
Arnold Palmer to her, who played in fifty consecutive Masters,
and I think he missed the cut the last twenty
five years, and he was okay with that. You know,
he'd go and play a couple of rounds, he'd wave
to the crowd. Arnold was always a fan favorite, but

(15:53):
Jack Nicholas didn't do that because Jack was of the mindset,
if I don't feel like I have a chance to win,
I'm not going to be some ceremony, and I.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Don't think Tiger is that as well.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I mean, I give Tiger immense credit for playing those
twenty three holes he had to play on Friday just
to make the cut, and the fact that he didn't
withdraw like as painful as it was to watch him
the last couple of days. He made it to the
finish line, and I have nothing but admiration for the
man that has moved the needle like no man has

(16:24):
ever done will ever do again in a sport like golf.
But I just get a sense, and I think I
agree with what Montzi said. I would not be surprised
if Tiger announces, Hey, I'll be there for the Champions Dinner.
I'm there to support the Masters any way I can.
But I just can't. You know, with a fused ankle,
fuse back and everything else he has gone through. He's

(16:47):
forty eight years old. I can't see him putting himself
through this again.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, he would have to be different, meaning he would
have to be healthier. He would have to change the
way he plays again. You know Tiger Woods. If there's
one thing about his game that's still there, is he
plays like Tiger Woods. And I think he's gonna have
to walk back some of the risks that he's willing

(17:14):
to take on a golf course, walk back some of
the length that he's going to go off the t
box if he wants to sustain health through an entire tournament.
You know, he just can't. He can't swing them three
hundred yards and expect his body to stay together for
a full round of golf.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
He just can't do that anymore.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Or really, I guess he could put together a full
round or maybe even two full rounds of golf. He
was playing about par golf before he really fell apart
on Saturday. And it's it like you said, it's sad
to watch.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
It's sad to see.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
But you know, if he has to take I don't
know what fifty yards off his drive, you know, if
he has to take like you know, start to play
a little bit more old man senior PGA golf, like
where you know, it's two hundred and fifty yards, but
it's straight down the fairway every time, nice easy swing.
I mean, yeah, it's not gonna be the Sunday Tiger

(18:07):
that we're used to, but you can still be. You
could still transition into a game that you shoot low,
that you could still play on the PGA Tour with
you just you just have to change again who you
are in this game. You have to evolve from who
you've been in this game. I don't know if he's
willing to make those changes, because you even see him

(18:29):
at the driving range. I mean, he's hitting his driver,
you know what, like twenty something times, and every single
one is three hundred yards down range, and he's you know,
he's working on our right. Am I gonna draw this one?
And I'm gonna fade this one slightly? Am I gonna
pipe this one straight down the middle? High shots, low shots,
you know, depending on what type of fairway he's attacking.

(18:49):
He's working on all that still, and so it's not
just the t shots all throughout the week while he's
actually playing. It's the whatever it is, one hundred, two hundred,
three hundred practice tee shots he's taking before the Masters
are during the Masters. So I agree with you, it's sad.
But at the same time, it showed a lot of

(19:10):
guts the fact that he was able to finish four
rounds of golf.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
No question about that.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I mean, again, he'd only played one round of competitive
golf this year.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, one round, and then he drew up there at
Jennet Riviera, and so.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
You know, and he admitted, well, again, he had to
play the five extra holes on Friday because of the
delay with the weather on Thursday, and for him to
play twenty three holes on that course, which every golfer
is acknowledged, is the toughest walking court you'll ever see.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
I mean it is.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
There's just no flat round once you leave the tea box.
There is no flat round the rest of the way
until you get to the next tea box. So yeah,
I mean, look, Tiger obviously owes nothing to anyone. He
is given back ten times more than he can ever
receive in terms of his value to the game of golf.
And he got this record, you know, twenty four consecutic

(20:07):
cuts made, which is remarkable in itself. But are we
going to see him at the US Open. We're going
to see him next week next month at the PGA,
the Open Championship. I'm sure he'll try, But what we're
seeing is for his body right now to get through
four full rounds of golf and play at a level
that makes him competitive to win that tournament, it just

(20:29):
doesn't seem likely at this point.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
And again, he had a near fatal car accident.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
It's one thing for him to overcome the four back
surgeries he had in order to win that miraculous Masters
in twenty nineteen, but the devastation of that leg of
the injury he suffered in that car accident.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
That probably was it well.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
And remember there was one point during the tournament where
he was I don't know, I guess he was waiting
for an approach.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
You know, they're waiting for the green to clear.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
And I don't know if it was on the broadcast
or if it was you know, on the ESPN Plus brought,
you know, whatever it was. But there's you know, obviously
you can follow some of these groups the entire way
you can follow specific golfers. So there's a camera on
Tiger Woods the entire round of golf. I believe this
was on Saturday, And so there was one point where

(21:26):
he's literally stripping off his he's unbuckling his pants and
he's got icy hot or some sort of like you know,
Ben Gay or some you know, and he's rubbing it
on his lower back and on his hip, and he's
trying to get you know something, you know, to probably
knock down some of the pain he's feeling, because yeah,
I understand like he injured that leg during during that

(21:49):
car accident. The leg, the leg honestly during golfing, you know,
it made it may be the least painful because you
got to remember, with a back that's been surgically repaired
four times over, you got into an accident that does
no favors for your back, and then on top of it,
you're walking with a limp because you're still recovering from
a leg injury. And he really didn't let that leg

(22:11):
injury completely hill before he was golfing again.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
So what does that do to your spine? What does
that do to your back?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I'm sure this guy is lit up in pain every
single time he swings a golf club. And the fact
that he was able to make it was his twenty
fourth consecutive cut, yep. I mean, I'm that's again an
accomplishment that may never be beaten. And then you when
you start thinking about all of the accomplishments that he's

(22:38):
been able to pile up. I don't know how many
more we have left to see. But this one wasn't
lost on me. I appreciated it, and like you said,
like you talked about yesterday, this could very well be
the last time we see Tiger Woods play at a
master's Yeah, I just I.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Don't see him being a ceremonial guy, which Palmer was
for years, which was great for Palmer. But Tiger plays
to win, Nicholas played to win when Nicholas felt like,
I can't do this anymore because I can't honestly say
to myself I have a chance to win this tournament.
And I just and I know Tiger's admiration for Nicholas
and his legacy, and I think he wants to follow
in those footsteps if I don't feel like I because

(23:18):
he was thinking, you know, after Friday, hey, I have
a chance here, and then the reality said it on Saturday,
what he had put his body through just to make
the cut. Uh, and there was no gas left. All right,
let's find out what is trending right now? And Monsy
is here rich and now you and Monsey have something

(23:38):
in common.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
What we've both been to Hartman's chateau.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, so you were up there.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
I was.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
I was, Oh yeah, just hanging out, having a little dinner,
a little wine, a little you know, baked goods. Said
and that just makes you want to, you know, cry,
because they're so good and it's just not fair how good.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
They are, you know, you know, oh, I know, yeah
he has really been there, done that. Yeah, yeah, I know,
actually made chocolate chip cookies.

Speaker 9 (24:16):
No, not this, not this time.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
She made some snicker doodle deliciousness along with this banana
bread thing.

Speaker 9 (24:25):
Of magic that just makes you wonder how it's possible.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
And then she made these other muffins that were like
a mix of like chocolate chip, a little bit of.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Was it also a banana but also vegan? These are
these are vegan?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Yes, you know, so no calories basically exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Well, I was talking to your boyfriend Sean about this one.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
He had said that somebody else had advertised himself as
the best banana bread ever.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
And he said this put a to shame.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, that was an even And and I said, well, Sean,
I'm sure you're an entrepreneurial spirit in you.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
What about you know, maybe doing some business here right? Yes?

Speaker 7 (25:02):
And he was He's like, oh, I'm going to take
this to set. I'm gonna make this be a thing
for all the shows that he's.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
A part of.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I mean, if there's Missus Fields, you know, well, and
the I guess the other thing that sort of shocked
her is Denise calling me daddy, which you're well aware.

Speaker 9 (25:19):
Exactly he says it all right now literally they daddy.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm known as Daddy Steve Steve Hartman's kids,
you know, Drake, Garrett and Uh, and of course in Paris, uh,
they all call him daddy.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
And then also his ex wife Denise calls him daddy.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
So good, it's so good. And then our buddy Danny
Woodhead would call me daddy.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well that's right, yeah, yeah, we we might promoted this
on our show, and all of a sudden we brought Danny.
Daddy wouldhead join us ride Now, what's going on, Danny,
what's happening Daddy?

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Like, you know, it was so good, it was so
good to hear it throughout the night.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
I was like, how am I I'm gonna start accidentally
calling him daddy just because I heard.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
It so much.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
I never buddy's daddy. That's okay, I could take that.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I bullieve me.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I've been called a lot worse than daddy.

Speaker 9 (26:06):
I believe that.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I believe that is Well, we had a wonderful time,
and you guys are amazing.

Speaker 9 (26:12):
Likewise, No, we.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
Had a lovely, lovely fun time. Yes, even though it
was raining, we still had a great great time.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, they didn't get to enjoy the backyard, but outside
of that, everything else was killed yeo, incredible.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
It really really was.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
All right, let's check in on the NBA because so
much is going on.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, can you break down every playoff scenario?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (26:30):
I can't, but I'll do the basics.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
How about that Milwaukee, New York, Cleveland fighting for the
second seed in the East. So right now, the Bucks
are losing to the Magic at halftime, well, actually halfway
through the third quarter, they're still losing in Orlando eighty
sixty two to fifty five. Again, halfway through the third quarter,
the Knicks are beating the Bulls sixty four to sixty two.
Halfway through the third as well, the Calves are beating

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the Hornets ninety six to eighty eight. They're about to
start the fourth quarter. Then there's the other side where
you have Orlando, Indiana, Philly and Miami trying to take
the fifth seed. So then Heat are right now beating
the Raptors seventy five to sixty one. Halfway through the third.
The seventy six Ers playing without Joel and beat as
a precautionary reason, he did tweak his knee on Friday

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against the Magic.

Speaker 9 (27:18):
But the Sixers are beating the Nets seventy to fifty six.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
Late in the third quarter, and the Pacers are currently
up on the Hawks at home one oh four to
eighty six.

Speaker 9 (27:27):
Halfway through the third the game.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
That doesn't really matter, Celtics are beating the Wizards ninety
seven to seventy four, also late in the third quarter.
A little roundup of what's happening in Major League Baseball.
Tyler O'Neill now leads the league in home runs. He
just hit his seventh home run for the Red Sox,
but the Red Sox are tied with the Angels at two.

Speaker 9 (27:47):
Apiece bottom of the third inning.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
The Birds and the Orioles are tied at three apiece
top of the fourth, Pirates and Phillies tied at one
apiece bottom of the fourth.

Speaker 9 (27:55):
Blue Jays blanking the Rockies three zero.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
Top of the fourth. The Braves have added some more runs.
They're up on the Marlins five to one. Top of
the fourth. The Twins are shutting out the Tigers three zero.
Bottom of the fourth. Aaron Judge a three run homer
for the Yankees. They're currently beating the Guardians three to
two top of the fourth. Jose Altuve just hit a
home run for the Astros.

Speaker 9 (28:16):
They're up on the rangers one zero top of this second.
A lot going on today.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
You mentioned already Tiger Woods finishing five over for the day,
sixteen over for the entire tournament, and soon we will
have Scotty Scheffler and Colin Morikawa t enof. It should
be any minute, maybe a couple of minutes or so,
but there's at to tee off any minute.

Speaker 9 (28:34):
Who are the leaders of the tournament?

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Back to you, guys, I have an update, Scotti.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Scheffler just did tea off and Marikawa was about to
tee off right now. Scheffler's dribe right down the middle
to start his final round, and of course he has
a one shot laid over Colin Marikawa in this year's Masters.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Monci, It's great to see you guys.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Last year.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
We're checking with you a little bit later on Jaz
all right.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Speaking of Scotty Scheffler, rich as fathers ourselves, he had
made it clear his wife is not due for a
couple of more weeks with their first child, but he
said if she should go into labor, he would immediately
withdraw from.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
The Masters to be by her side.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Now, let's say he has a three shot lead at
the turn today. Let's say he's through nine holes and
he has a three shot lead, and all of a
sudden he gets noticed that his wife has gone into
labor with nine holes to play in a three shot
lead at the Masters, Yeah, because you still would have

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at least a couple hours left in your round. I mean,
even at the turn, you're still two hours away from
the finish line. Do you really believe that he would
immediately withdraw with a three shot lead with nine holes
to play for his second green jacket to be there
for the delivery of his first child.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
There is no chance he will walk off that.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Course.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
There is no chance now if he does.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I mean, frankly, and I know this is an unpopular
opinion for a lot of people who think, like, well,
it's a once in a lifetime event having a kid,
and that's not true because you could have more than
one kid. And then also, now, don't get me wrong,
it's for that child, and it's for your first child.
And I understand how special and how you know how

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serious childbirth is and how unbelievable it is when you
meet your first child and all those things. I went
through it, and trust me, I took time off from work,
and trust me, I was at my wife's side while
she was giving birth. But if I were, like, for example,
to use my sport that I came from as a comparison,

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if I was the starting center for a team that
was playing in the Super Bowl and at the start
of the fourth quarter, I found out that my wife
was going into labor, and I had the choice to
either finish the game or to leave the building and
go run to maybe even a local hospital to see

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the birth of my first child. I'm finishing the game,
and she knows that. And guess what, her whole family
knows that, and everybody I love knows that, and everybody's
gonna be supportive of that. And for anybody who can
understand that, that's fine. You, I mean, but you have
to understand that this is different. Like when you have

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an opportunity to cement yourself and your family in a
leg and your family's name, you know, in a legacy
that very few human beings have ever been able to
do in the world of sports.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Like you're gonna finish that tournament.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
And so I don't know any I don't know anybody
who would really who plays sports, you know or understands them,
who would really disagree with that. I know there's a
lot of people who on the on the concept, they
would say, no, no, no, no matter what, you're there
for your wife. And that is true, except there are exceptions,
like there are exceptions like if you are in the

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final round of the Masters and you are you have
a three stroke lead, you stay and you finished the round.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Well.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
There was one of the great what ifs on this
very subject matter back in nineteen ninety nine at the
US Open, when Payne Stewart and Phil Mickelson were in
the final pairing. There was a one shot difference going
into the final hole. Payne Stewart ended up burning that hole,
but conceivably they would have tied and had an eighteen

(32:44):
hole playoff the next day. That's back when they had
eighteen hole playoffs at the US Open and Phil Mickelson
was expecting the birth of his first child, and he
had said along the lines what Scotti Scheffler had said,
that if my wife goes into labor, I'll be with her.
And as a turned out, the next day was the
day that his daughter came into the world. Now, that

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would have been unbelievable if he had walked out of
a playoff to win the US Open, and he had
never won a major at that point, and of course,
as it's turned out, he's never won the US Open.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
He's had six runner roughs, never won the only major
he never won.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Can you imagine if if he had made that decision
to walk away from a playoff and then go on
to never winning the US Open, and we look back saying, dude,
you were in a playoff, I mean you would you
had a chance.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
To do it that year.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I mean, the fact that Scheffler's already won a Master's
I think is a little bit different, you know, because
he's already got his green jacket. He's set to be
at Augusta National forever. But look, I'm not gonna take
away I cut the court on all three of my children.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Okay, So I.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Every every time that you are in the presence of
the birth of a child is obviously a day you'll
never forget, especially the first one.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Surreal situations.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Oh yeah, it's I mean, like like rich, if we
were in the middle of our show, yeah yeah, no,
and I'm like, all right, final hour of our show
and all of a sudden you get the you know,
notice that your wife has gone into labor.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
You're like, honey, look, I got to finish the show.
I mean, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Ohand exactly not quite the same thing, by the way.
So Scheffler, Maricawa, the final pairing have teed off. So
everybody is in the mix right now in this final
round of the Masters. All right, we've got all the
NBA news.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
To get too.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
We got the Masters going on, and can you believe it, folks,
we are less than two weeks away from the NFL Draft.
A quick update on the other side. This is Fox
Sports Sunday, Steve Harman and Rich Nberger Here Fox Sports Sunday.
We're live from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. Scottie
Scheffler call, callin Maricawa. Both part of the first hole.

(34:56):
So Cheffer is still with the one shot lead. One guy,
make a little bit of a move. Cameron Smith, the
former Open Champion now with the Live Golf Tour. He
eagled the second hole. He is at three hundred bar a,
still four shots out of the lead. So Rich, it
is a countdown to the NFL Draft. Yesterday, Adam Kaplan,

(35:16):
our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider, joined us and.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I said to him.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
It's been a little quiet, right. I mean, last year
we had all kinds of craziness going on. You know,
we thought, all right, we know Bryce Down's going to
go one, most likely CJ. Stroud's going to go to
Will Anderson three. But all of a sudden, no, no, no, no, no, no,
my draft Dave is like Will Levis is going to
be the second pick in the draft, and Will Anderson.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Oh no, he's dropping man.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
And then the draft played out and we went back
to the original idea. Those were the top three picks
in the draft in Bryce Young, c J. Stroud, and
Will Anderson. And you know, obviously in the situation with
the Texans, they made the right choices. So here we
are sitting once again where we got the top repicks
seemingly in cement right with Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels and

(36:06):
Drake May those three quarterbacks going respectively to the Bears,
the Commanders, and the Patriots. Then we get to the
next quarterback that's going to be taken. JJ McCarthy is
the real wild card in this year's draft, because if
you hear the draft evaluators of McCarthy, they say he's

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a solid second round pick.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
He's not a first round he's not where those other three.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Quarterbacks are, But that doesn't mean he's going to be
a second round pick, and most likely he's going to
be a first round pick. The question is who's going
to bite hard on the apple to move up or
sit where they are in order to get a guy
like JJ McCarthy. So you and I have been through
a lot of these drafts right now, and I think

(36:55):
last year, I think we were not suckered into some
of the hot rumors out there.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
How do you go about it?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
When you start evaluating where guys are going to go
on the draft and you start hearing rumors all over
the place, what's real and what's not real?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Well, I would suggest anybody who is going to take
rumors at face value, you know, things that haven't been
stated publicly by front offices, and even some of those
by the way, and I'll get back to that point
as fact, you are sorely mistaken.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
This is a liar's game draft time.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
It's all about having people float out suspicions that this
guy's draft stock is getting boosted. And here's why. So
if all of a sudden there is a team that
has intrigue. For example, I don't know, maybe the Vikings,
after signing Sam Darnold as a security blanket this offseason
at the quarterback position, maybe they really do have eyes

(37:53):
for JJ McCarthy. And maybe the longer they mullet over
inside the walls of their franchise war room, maybe they're
loving them more and more and more. And all of
a sudden, you hear that, well, JJ McCarthy, his draft
stock is rising, and there's other teams, there's multiple teams
interested in potentially trading up to get him. After the

(38:15):
first two quarterbacks or maybe first three quarterbacks are off
the board, well, maybe that encourages the Vikings to jump
up the board and trade with somebody who's looking to
trade down. So who could be floating that, I don't know,
Maybe the Arizona Cardinals, you know, maybe they're looking at
trade down. They already have a quarterback, so trading down
to eleven's no sweat for them. But if they can

(38:37):
get maximum value from a team like the Vikings or
any team who's looking for a quarterback who's starting to
hear that, a team may leapfrog above them to get
JJ McCarthy, And that's what happens every year. There's a reason,
there's a why, and you have to think about why
am I hearing all of this about JJ McCarthy. In
my opinion, I think JJ McCarthy probably will.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Be a late first round or early second round quarterback.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
But the reason why we're hearing so much about him
is because it feels like some of these other quarterbacks
are slated. They're slotted, they're going to go when they go.
But he's a wild card and he may be able
to encourage somebody to take a bite at the lore
and trade up so that they could go get him
and somebody else, and you know that elbows somebody else

(39:24):
out of the picture frame. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I look at the Vikings, who I think were blindsided.
I think they really felt Kirk Cousins was coming back.
They had no clue Atlanta was going to give him
everything and beyond to lead. They not only have the
eleventh pick in the draft, they had the twenty ninth
pick in the draft. And if I'm the Vikings right now,
I'm going to give them advice just stay where you are,

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Stay where you are. I don't think McCarthy's going to
go in the top ten. I really don't. And if
you like him, take him at eleven. If you don't
like him, you get another quarterback at twenty nine. Right,
all right, coming up, we have much more on the Masters,
a big day the NBA, and the passing of a legend.

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Scottie Scheffler one shot lead over Marikawa and Max Homer
right now.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
By the way, interesting.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Story here with the guy that's in sole fourth place,
two shots out of the league, Ludwig Oberg.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
It's got an a, but I guess it's like an
o Oberg out of Sweden.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
This guy has already won a PGA tournament, He's won
a European tournament. He has played in the Ryder Cup.
He is ranked ninth in the World Golf rankings. He
has never played in a major golf Championship. This is
his first major golf championship. I don't know how how
do you play in the Ryder Cup before actually ever

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playing in a major golf championship. That's how good this
guy is out of Sweden. Right now, he's in sole
fourth place in the final round of the Master. So
this is like a name to remember, Ludwig Oberg.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, it's It's pretty impressive when you see certain names
get close to the top of the lead aboard or
sustained throughout a tournament, especially one with as many eyes
on it as the Masters, because what it immediately does
is make you think, oh, my goodness, well maybe this
launches them a little more confidence. You know, they get
out to the US Open, the PGA Championship.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
The the other majors.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
You know that the Open, you know, used to be
the British Open, but they just called the Open Championship.
Like when when you have when you have a top
ten finish and you're sort of one of those guys
who's starting to get a name for himself at these majors,
it feels like, well, that's it, that's that's that's your

(42:04):
your on ramp to having a launch and some success.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
And it doesn't always work out for guys like that.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
You know, how long has it been now Ricky Fowler
has been you know, having these top five finishes or
top ten finishes.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
He's he was destined.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
It felt like to be the I don't want to
say the next tiger Woods or anything close to it,
but one of the next biggest golfers on tour. And
it just it just never really came together that way.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Scott A.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Scheffler just hit it into the crowd on his second
shot of the second hole, and that does not sit
well with the patrons there. They're all comfortable in their
seats and everything, and all of a sudden it's on
right in the crowd and they got to move everybody.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
To get ready for his third shot on that par five.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
All right, I want to talk about the passing of
one of the most famous socio paths in the history
of the world, OJ Simpson. This is this is something
that's very generational for those of your generation. Anyone that's
under the age of forty really knows OJ Simpson as
a double murder And by the way, there are no

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conspiracy theories in any of this.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
He murdered two people that's one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
And in fact, there were those that say that he
actually admitted to his crimes when he got arrested. He
said he was in some kind of cocaine infused rage.
She couldn't believe that he had done it, but he
did it. There's no question that he murdered two people.
That being said for people of my generation, and I
was nine years old when he started his collegiate career

(43:39):
at USC and he was one of my first sports heroes.
My dad went to USC, so I was a Trojan
fan as a kid, and Oj was the biggest name
in the sport. And then he went to the Buffalo
Bills where he dominated. And people have always said, how
is it that you can see someone in two different lights?
And for those that remember his playing career, we're following

(44:02):
his playing career when it was happening, I say, it's
quite easy. What did you think of the Pro Football
Hall of Fame with the flag at half staff with
the passing of OJ Simpson, What did you make.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Of that look? I think that.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Boy, well, hey, I completely agree with what you with
what you just said about his guilt, I think that's obvious.
And also I think with a conscious that that bared
the weight of knowing that he got away with double murder.
I think many times, while skirting obvious legal ramifications, if

(44:44):
he did one hundred percent come clean, it felt like
many times over he tried to tell us exactly how
he did it. Yeah, you know, there was that interview
you remember he sat down when he was promoting the
new book where they said, Okay, Ojay, why don't you
just pretend it's somebody else, But why don't you tell
us exactly how somebody else would would have killed Nicole

(45:07):
Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. And he did, in great
detail describe exactly what he did. And it was gruesome
and it was I mean, it's still available. You can
find it on the internet. You just research that interview
and you'll hear oj Now he's talking in the third person,
and a couple of times he gives like a sly

(45:28):
look at the cameras to be like, of course, this
would be if I actually were to commit this murder,
how I would do it. And there were a couple
of moments where you could see him getting lost in
the story and he would shift away from the third
person regaling of this talent he would put himself back
into the first person because.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
He was there that night and he did those things.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
But okay, you put that enormous item on the shelf
for a second and you talk about what he meant
to football.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
I mean, OJ.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Simpson was, I mean is one of the greatest football
players to ever walk planet Earth.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Not only one of the greatest football players, one of
the biggest stars.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
No question that the NFL.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
He was the first African American star to go mainstream
with national products to be promoted, you know, the Hurts
rent a car. I mean we had never I mean,
like Joe Namath was one of those stars, but we
had never seen an African American athlete none well, none

(46:34):
of these, none of these will He made nobody until
OJ Simpson was accepted mainstream.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
He was a brilliant athlete. He turned into a very
credible and talented broadcaster who turned into an unbelievable rising
star in movies. His role in the Naked Gun movies
was hysterical, and then he was asked before Arnold Schwarzenegger

(47:04):
was asked to be Terminator or I guess cornered James
Cameron and forced him to consider him for the role O. J.
Simpson turned down the terminator role. Yeah, so like his
star was on the rise. He was a Hollywood star
already at the time he committed these murders, and then
the low speed chase and the White Bronco and then

(47:27):
the first time that we were ever really to take
a long look into a courtroom with video cameras. Judge
Edo allowed video cameras during the O. J. Simpson trial.
And I mean it was two acts. The first act
of his life, he was a superstar athlete who turned

(47:47):
into a superstar movie star. And then in the second
act of his life, like you said, he was guilty
of or I should say, he was acquitted of double
homicide with obvious guilt and ended up losing the civil
case and then ending up going to prison on attempted
robbery charges out in Vegas.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
And that sort of felt like in the sports world,
a makeup call.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Hey, we didn't get you on the double homicide, but
at least we got you on that attempted Vegas robbery.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Well, again, the reason he was found not guilty. And
I've seen interviews with Marcia Clark afterwards. You know, I
obviously was doing my radio show through this entire thing.
In fact, the morning that they discovered the bodies, yep,
I was working with Chet forty, who was my loose
cannon partner back in the day. Chedd of course, the

(48:35):
famous director of Monday Night Football. He had directed Ojay
on Monday Night Football when he was briefly a part
of the broadcast team there.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
And I walked in.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
We were doing a morning show and of course there's
no internet. I mean, this is nineteen ninety four, right,
And so I walk in and he said, there have
been something over the wire. He goes, did you hear
about Nicole Simpson? I said, no, what happened to the goal?
And he goes, she's been murdered.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
I said what.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
He goes, yeah, I mean she and some guy that
found their bodies. And I said, so where's Oj? And
I said I don't know, but I mean he looks
at me and this is someone that you know, really
knows OJ. And I got to know Oj because when
I worked for the La Raiders, he was around all
the time. Our marketing director was in his inner circle
of friends, Mike Ornstein, and then of course Marcus Allen

(49:24):
was a good friend. So we saw OJ all the time.
It wasn't like uncommon to see the guy and and
she looks at me and he says, wow, he I
think he did it. And my initial reaction is why why?
I mean, you're kiddy, I mean being Oj Simpson's like
the one of the greatest things you have, no asda

(49:45):
Like I remember we in nineteen ninety pat Riley walked
away from his job as the Lakers head coach, and
I ended up at sort of this you know, celebration
of Riley as you know, this great coach of the Lakers.
And I was at this big party. I was actually
sitting at a table. This is nineteen ninety, so there'd
be four years before the murders with, among other people,

(50:08):
Marcus Allen, and we were sitting there and OJ and
Nicole walk in. Now, even in a room of stars,
I mean all the Lakers stars are there. Everybody's there,
OJ was next level, like he was next level. So
he walks by, Nicole walked by, and then OJ's behind
her and he stops because he sees Marcus and I'm

(50:29):
just sitting there and it's like a fly on the wall,
and he looks at Marcus.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
He goes the great.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Marcus Allen and then he just walked away. Now I
looked at Marcus, I said, what was that about. He goes,
I don't know, the guy's hiring a kite, you know.
I mean, he was, he's he was associopath. He was.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
He was one of those guys. When you think about this,
he was.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Probably the greatest high school running back of his class.
And yeah, and he had to go two years of
j seball. No one would touch this guy. He was
bad news. He was like like your former teammate Aaron Hernandez.
He was one of those guys that everyone knew was
a bad apple. The USC was determined to get him in.

(51:18):
I don't know if he ever attended a class. I
don't even know what he did in those two years
when he was at USC, other than obviously break all
kinds of records as a running back. But believe me,
there was always a dark side to OJ Simpson. He
knew how to turn on the charm when the lights
were on. That he was a bad apple. He was

(51:38):
always a bad apple. And then it exploded on that night. Yet,
as I sit here all these years later, and now
that he's passed away, I just found an interesting one.
The heisman trust, you know, acknowledged his passing. And I'm like, really,
because when he was a FI tieth anniversary at Heighso Winnard,

(52:01):
they made no mention of his name. The National Football Foundation,
which oversees the College Football Hall of Fame, of which
he's a member, has made no mention of his passing
because they immediately put out any kind of acknowledgment when
any member of the College Football Hall of Fame passes,
way they did not for Oj the Pro Football Hall.

Speaker 10 (52:20):
Of Fame did.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
It just it's it's insanely complicated. But he was both.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
He was one of the greatest running backs ever to
play the game of football, and he was a double murderer.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah, and that's that is the legacy of OJ Simpson.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Well, listen, I think there's a lot of people who
they draw the line with this, like how dare anybody
celebrate his greatness on the football field. Meanwhile, he was
guilty of these atrocities against two people, and it was
such a famous and public trial. And like I said,
he admitted guilt in the past, you know, even though
he never really legally admitted that guilt. Here's the deal.

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There's a lot of people who can justify enjoying an R.
Kelly song even though he had a dark personal life.
There's a lot of people who can enjoy Michael Jackson's
music even though he had a dark personal life. There
are a lot of people who appreciate, you know, the
liberties that our forefathers, you know, gave us here in

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this country, you know, with the Declaration of Independence and
the work that was done during the Revolutionary War. And meanwhile,
many of them made some really awful decisions at the
time with what was acceptable by law. You know, you
look at it through the modern lens and it's it's
inconceivable what they were doing to human beings at that time.
But I guess the point is, like, however anybody wants

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to acknowledge, this is their own subjective.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Freedom.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Like I don't really care that the Pro Football Hall
of Fame celebrated him in any way, you know, lowering
a flag or whatever they did to acknowledge Ojason since passing,
because that's their own business. And a lot of people
make those decisions, you know there. Like I said, the music,
you listen to, the art, you enjoyed them, the movies
you watched. How many movie stars in the past or

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present have been accused of or guilt found guilty of
awful things, you still go and watch their movies, you know.
So I'm just saying, like, I'm not gonna sit here
with like and say one hundred percent of the time
I draw the line, and I know where my line is.
And but in my opinion, I'm not going to sit
here and celebrate OJ Simpson because I think he he

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was a murderer, you know. So, I you know, it's
it's a little bit of one of those things where
it's like, as great as he was at football, I mean,
he also was guilty of something horrible.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
And uh and you know, I can I can do both.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
I can live in both worlds where I can say
I can acknowledge that he was inarguably one of the
most talented athletes in the history of the sport. I mean,
and that's not that's not o rating his significance and
importance to the world of football, both collegiately and professionally.
But then also say he was also guilty of something

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horrific and should have been punished more for those crimes.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah, it's complicated, but it is a generational thing. And again,
just a bottom line. He was found not guilty for
one reason. It was the fallout from the Rodney King situation,
which had just happened a couple of years before.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
And I heard Marcia Clark.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
You know, they had all this DNA at evidence, they
had everything everyone, and literally I'm on the air when
they break for the announcement of the verdict. Remember this
was an eight to nine months trial and the jury
only convened for four hours, and we.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Would thought, wow, that was quick.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
I mean, it's such an overwhelming evidence, DNA evidence, everything
else that he's guilty. While they didn't take them long,
and when they said not guilty, the one person that
was not surprised was Martia Clark. She said when she
looked at that jury, she knew almost from the get go,
he's gonna walk. No matter what we say, no matter
how much evidence we present, he is going to walk.

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So it's still it was the trial of this century
and it was unbelievable. But that is the legacy complicated,
to say the least of one. O'renthal James Simpson, all right,
speaking of legacies, what's the legacy of Shoheo Tani. Some
latest developments in his case, and still a lot of
unanswered questions.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Will break it down.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin and Rich Armberger
Here Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the Tairaq
dot Com studios. Scottie Scheffler just birdied the third hole. However,
on the par three fourth hole, his tea shots sailed
the green. Right now, Marikawa and Homa are two shots back. Deshambo,

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who had two bogies early, now back to back birdies
to get him back to under parts. So we have
a long way to go on this final day of
the Masters Show. Hey Otani, rich I guess we at
least now can acknowledge based on these text messages between
his interpreter and his bookie that indeed this guy was

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operating quite a scam to say the least. Uh And
there doesn't seem to be any real mention of Otani,
so at least in terms of Otani be involved in
the gambling aspect, he seems to be clear of that.
But there's still a lot of unanswered questions. I'm trying
to figure this all out. Maybe you have the answer here, Okay,
all right, So here's a guy that you've been with

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for six plus years, who is essentially attached to your hip.
I mean that's I mean the description from people that
covered the Angels in Otani six years with the Angels
would tell you that this interpreter guy was with him,
side by side the entire time.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
So what we now know a little more.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Detail about the extent of this gambling, and by the way,
he only met this bookie supposedly in twenty twenty one.
They're only talking about like a three year span where
hundreds of millions of dollars were gambled, hundreds of millions,
and that he stole sixteen million dollars from Otani in

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an effort to cover his gambling debts. So here are
two questions I have, even if Otani wasn't directly involved
in the gambling. Question Number one is this, you're side
by side with this guy twenty four to seven. Seemingly,
and according now to these official records, he was placing

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as many as twenty five bets daily every day, seven
days a week, from ten dollars to up to one
hundred and sixty thousand dollars on a bet. And you
have no clue this is going on with someone that
you were literally attached to by the hip and then
the other part. And I guess this would be a
bigger question from his wife's standpoint now that he's newly married.

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This guy stole sixteen million dollars out of your bank
account and you're completely unaware of this. How did he
have this kind of access to your money? And because
the reason I would ask that is is that I'm
sure there are a lot of people scammers out there
that are a whole lot smarter than his interpret saying wow,
I mean, if shoey Otani has such little regard to

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his own personal finances, maybe we could take advantage as well.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
He doesn't seem to.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Be really paying any attention to all of it. So
I mean, yeah, in some respects, it's it's not gonna
hurt Otani. In terms of his playing career. He's been
hitting the ball great. He seems to be unaffected. But man,
oh man, could could you really be that blind to
something that's happening to you for years?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I just it blows my mind.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Well, look, I agree, it does blow my mind to
that that Otani he had no idea that he was
being I mean, essentially, essentially, he had the majority of
the money that he earned over the course of his
playing career contract money. I'm again I'm excluding endorsement money

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because sho heeo Tani, I mean, there are some conservative
figures that say that he he's been earning at a
forty million dollars a year clip through endorsements basically since
he's been in Major League Baseball. So that's a significant
chunk of change, even after taxes in this country, and
I'm sure overseas as well. And this of course is

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also I'm not commenting on what he made when he
was a member of the professional ranks in Japanese baseball,
but since he's been to the United States, he's he's
grossed about forty four million dollars. So if Mitsahara, if
he gambled away sixteen million dollars worth of sho Heo

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Tani's money, that means virtually all of the money that
shoe Heotani earned via contracts through the through Major League Baseball,
his contracts with the Angels is gone, all of it.
So I don't know how he was able to do it,
but there Look, I've and I've been bringing this up

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a lot around this topic, but my grandfather when I
was a kid had a saying where, look, you can
fool some of the people all the time, you can
fool everybody for some of the time, but you can't
fool everybody all the time. And what this was was
was Ibe Mitsuhara fooling everybody for some of the time.

(01:01:41):
He had everybody fooled that his resume was good, that he.

Speaker 11 (01:01:44):
Worked with other professional baseball players, that he was on
the up and up the whole way, And he fooled
show Heotani for the three years that apparently he was
gambling away his money.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
But eventually you get caught, like, you cannot fool everyone
all the time. So am I willing to believe that
sho he Otani is naive enough being a new person
in a new country, trusting this guy like one hundred
percent with his life and all of his dealings, that
maybe he was able to sneak off with millions and

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millions and millions of dollars without show Hey knowing up
until this expose came out. I guess, I guess. But
at the same token, I am still there is still
in the far reaches of my creative conscious, there's still
that feeling of like, yeah, but this seems this seems
unfathomably naive, Like this seems hard to believe that show

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Hey Otani had no idea that this was going on
the entire time. Like that is a lot of money.
That is an astounding amount of money to have disappear
from your account and have no awareness of it whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
John Paul Morosi will join us in the next hour.
I definitely want to get his re on that. Right now,
Let's find out what's trending.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
If you're going to be critical of show Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
O'twani, one person that is not going to take it,
well is Monty belagyas well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Duh yeah, well dub.

Speaker 7 (01:03:12):
But right now, you guys, my brain hurts trying to
figure out this playoff scenario.

Speaker 9 (01:03:17):
So let me tell you what I have figured out
so far.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Well, theaster coffin seems to be set.

Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
Now, well, there's a game in ot so not yet,
but some stuff is set, yes, all right. The seventy
six ers they beat the Nets one oh seven to
eighty six. The Heat defeated the Raptors one eighteen to
one oh three. But because Indiana, Philly and Orlando one
Orlando beat the Bucks, that means that the Heat are
going to travel to Philadelphia in a seven eight playing

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game on Wednesday. What does this mean, Jimmy Butler once
again against Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yes, we love that.

Speaker 9 (01:03:49):
We love that, so that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
The Pacers, they crushed the Hawks one fifty seven, one fifteen.
Indiana will be the sixth seed in the East. The
Hornets defeated the Calves one to ten. Cleveland had a
chance to secure the second seed, they now fall to
the fourth seed. They sat Donovan Mitchell, they sat Darius Garland,
they were in the lead in the fourth quarter and
lost to the Hornets. So now they are the fourth seed.

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That's what's happening there. The Celtics, they beat the Wizards,
doesn't matter when they're two to one twenty two.

Speaker 9 (01:04:18):
The Bulls and the Knicks, they are currently in overtime
in New York.

Speaker 7 (01:04:22):
Chicago is currently up one twelve to one oh nine,
about four less than four minutes to go in the
overtime portion of this game.

Speaker 9 (01:04:31):
So that's what I've got so far.

Speaker 7 (01:04:33):
Now on the Western Conference, I got at least some
details With the Suns. It's still super complicated, and I
got this from a beat writer for the Suns. So
the Sons are taking on the Timberwolves. The Lakers are
taking on the Pelicans, the Jazz and Warriors, Blazers, and Kings.
If the Suns win and the Pelicans lose, the Sons
are the sixth seed. If the Suns lose Pelicans lose,

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the Suns are the seventh seed. Lakers are the eighth seed.

Speaker 9 (01:04:56):
If the Pelicans win, Kings win, Sons are the seventh seed.
Kings are the eighth seed.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
The Pelicans win, Kings lose, Warriors win, Sons are the
seventh seed.

Speaker 9 (01:05:05):
Warriors are the eighth seed.

Speaker 7 (01:05:06):
Pelicans win, Kings lose, Warriors lose, Sons are the seventh seed.

Speaker 9 (01:05:10):
Lakers are the eight seed. This is complicated.

Speaker 12 (01:05:14):
I have no idea where I am at the fact
that guys, we're gonna have See basically, it was an
easy setup today because we've got the Eastern Conference games
played first, correct, and then we'll have the Eastern once.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
That Nick's Bulls game is over, then everything will be
done in the East. Then we turn to the West.

Speaker 9 (01:05:31):
Yeah, it's just it's too much, but it's fun. It's fun, sure,
all right. A little check in on baseball. We already
had a Grand Slam by Jack.

Speaker 7 (01:05:41):
I'm gonna maybe maybe I'm gonna mispronounce his name, Jack
so Winski, Maybe not. He plays for the Pirates. Already
had a Grand Slam. They're beating the Philly six to two.
It's the bottom of the seventh inning. The Birds are
up on the Oriels four to three. Bottom of the seventh.
The Red Sox time now taking the lead over the
Angels five to bottom of the six, Blue Jays blanking
the Rockies four zero, top but the seventh. The Marlins

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have taken the lead over the Braves. Seven six is
the score. Bottom of the seventh, Twins blanking the Tigers
three zero, top of the eighth. It's a tie game
now in Cleveland between the Yankees and the Guardians. They're
tied at four piece. Top of the seventh, all raised
against the Giants seven to one, top of the sixth,
Reds up on the White Sox six two bottom of
the fifth, and the Astros out of another run. Jose

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Altova actually with the second homer.

Speaker 9 (01:06:23):
Already for the game. They're beating the Rangers five to two, bottom.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
Of the fifth and at the Masters, You guys, so
much going on today?

Speaker 9 (01:06:31):
How are we keeping up?

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
Scottie Scheffler still in the lead, seven under par. Overall,
he is even for the day through four holes. Max Homa,
Colin Morikawa one shot back.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Still okay, all right, you get it all.

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
Now, what did I say about the Suns?

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
You were you were all kay, you were okay on
the east.

Speaker 10 (01:06:52):
But when you started going to the west, I mean,
I hold on, sorry, Montie, I was distracted doing some
work in the back. Can you just repeat everything?

Speaker 6 (01:07:02):
It probably already changed, Chris from when I said it.

Speaker 10 (01:07:07):
Mercury just went into retrograde everything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
For b asroid gonna hit brain as a little scrambled.
We're gonna let you rest your blame for the next update. Okay,
so we'll explain more Monsey great stuff as always.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
All right, here's what we know right now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
As far as the playing round on the East, let's
just start with the playing round.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
That's the first thing is the playing round. The heat
will be in Philadelphia and the Hawks will be at
the Bulls. So those are the play in games.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
First.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I remember the way this works. Seven plays eight plate,
nine places ten. The loser of the nine to ten
game is out done finished. The winner of the nine
to ten game will then play the loser of the
seven eight game. So again it's Miami at Philadelphia. That's
the seven eight matchup. It's the Hawks at the Bulls
in the nine to ten matchup. So that is now

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set in the East.

Speaker 10 (01:08:00):
Know that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Do we know on a tie break between the Bucks
and the Knicks?

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Do we have that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Because right now the Knicks are playing the Bulls. If
the Knicks lose that game, If they win, they're definitely
the two seed. If they lose, they would be tied
with Milwaukee.

Speaker 7 (01:08:15):
Who has the tiebreak, Milwaukee, So the Knicks have to
win if the Knicks win, or the second seed.

Speaker 9 (01:08:21):
If they lose, it goes to Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Okay, so then they would be the third seed and
the Bucks would be the two seed. That's where we
are in these as far as the West, I mean again, quit,
I don't know, yeah, don't even Let's let's just hold
off on that. By the way, Scotti Scheffler did bogie
that fourth hole after sailing his tee shots, so again
he just has the one shot.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Lead going there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
I want to talk a little bit here about the
Lakers situation because if you had said before the season,
Rich that Lebron James would play seventy one games and
Anthony Davis would play seventy six games, and both at

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all star levels, you know, putting up big numbers, all
NBA type numbers. And again, if the Lakers lose at
New Orleans today and the Warriors and the Kings both
win at home against teams that are out of the playoffs,
the Lakers would be a ten seed.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Ten yeah, with seventy one games. Basically a healthy Lebron
and ad the entire year. They just took off a
few games on back to backs, that's it. They would
Neither one of them had any serious injury the entire year.
I mean, I don't how how do you retain Darvin
Ham his insistence on playing Torrian Prince for the first

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half of the season. I was like, why is Hatchimura
on the I want to get Bowen to this conversation.
For second, here are steam producer, because he's a big
time Laker fan. I mean, look, Hatchimura was sitting on
the bench early on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
DLO.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Wasn't getting the minutes that you had your lineup at
the end of last year with Austin Reeves and Hachimura
and d Loo and Lebron and Ad and yet they
start the season with all those guys on the roster
and we're looking at what toryon Prince cam Reddish that
was going on.

Speaker 13 (01:10:18):
That'll be the question for the ages after the post mortem,
you know, when the post warning comes after the season,
that'll be fresh on everybody's minds because that is ridiculous.
There's that they went like five and thirteen after the
nd season tournament and that really doomed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Remember that they win that nd season tournament. They were
they remember this rich we they rather like five or
six wins in a row. They were rolling along and
then they just went into a nosedive with Tory and
Prince and cam Reddish getting an unbelievable amount of minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I don't know how Darvin Ham survives the season.

Speaker 13 (01:10:48):
I don't think he will.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
No, I don't think he will either.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
I also think that anybody who looks at Darvin Ham
as the biggest problem here is probably mistaken because let's
be honest with each other. Lebron James if he wants,
if he wants anything done differently with the Lakers, it's
up to him, you know. So I realize that Darvin
Ham is the head coach, and I realize that essentially

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he is, you know, the final stamp of approval on
any roster decisions or any game time decisions. But let's
be very honest, if Lebron James wants to veto any
of those decisions, he can, and he's done it in
the past. So I have a hard time suspending disbelief
and pretending that Darvin ham is the reason why the

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Lakers win or lose any games or any titles.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
For that matter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Can I jump jump in, like, are you going with this?

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Do we think that Frank Vogel won the Lakers their
most recent championship? Are we giving him the flowers for
that championship?

Speaker 13 (01:11:50):
It is kind of weird, though, because there have been
instances where the Lakers have very clearly not listened to
Lebron and for the worst, because I mean, at the
start of it, if they had listened to him, like
Tyler would be the coach right now and we wouldn't
be talking about that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Well, if you don't make the Anthony Davis trade, think
about the roster you have right now. Right here's the fact,
regardless of what happens today, Lebron six years with the Lakers,
they've either entirely missed the postseason or been in the
play and Round all but one year out of six,
and that was, of course, the year they won the

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championship and the bubble down in Florida. I guess my
question would be this, I mean, if they end up
like if they end up losing today and then get
them eliminated in the nine to ten game with a
road loss against the Warriors or Sacramento, two teams by
the way that owned the Lakers this year for the
most part, I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Mean, forget the Darvin Ham situation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Right now, Lebron James this contract, he has a player
option this year. It's his decision whether or not to
remain with the Lakers next season. Do you really blow
this whole thing up if you can, well, well, here,
I mean you say goodbye Lebron.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
But that's my point.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
That's my point, Like for anybody who's sitting here and
like legitimately defending that it Darvin Ham's.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
The problem here. That's like that you just said it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Like there's the Lakers are making so much money having
Lebron James be a part of their Franchiseely the Lakers
prior to Lebron getting there. Their their hope to save
the franchise was Lonzo Ball. Okay, yeah, after the retirement
of Kobe, there was that era. They had the second
pick in the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
You know, they took d lo they you know, remember
they had brandon Ingram, they had obviously Ball.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
I mean, they were taking all these young guys. It
wasn't moving the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
I get the idea of having to have a star,
especially with the Laker organization, but you're not winning with it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Look look yeah, but no. But see that's the thing.
They are winning.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
They are on top because we're talking about the Lakers,
and we wouldn't be talking about the Lakers right now
if it weren't for Lebron James. And that's the truth,
because the Lakers were desperate for their next star. And
that's the reality of the Los Angeles Lakers. And they've
done a fantastic job of bridging eras over the years.
You know, when you they were winning with Magic, they

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went they won with Kobe, they won with with Kobe
and Shaq. They they're winning with Lebron. And whether you're
winning actually winning championships or you're just winning in the ratings,
fight for you know, interest in your franchise, Like that's
that's still winning. You're still selling those tickets.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
That's a hard sell. If you're a diehard Laker fan,
you're still winning. I mean, there is a standard for you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Teams like the Celtics and Lakers that have dominated the
history of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
They're talking about fanzell, I'm talking about the organization. Well,
you're asking two different questions, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
Trying to keep.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
The Lakers forever.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
And this is the reality of the situation from the
franchise standpoint. This has nothing to do with the fan.
The franchise standpoint is the fans are showing up, they're
buying tickets, they're reloading season tickets. Everybod but he wants
to see Lebron in LA. Yeah, and that's a great business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
It's just a disgrace it that you think this is
good enough, if you're not a Laker fan, if you
think this is good enough, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
I'm telling you right now, then you just called Genie
bus not a Laker fan because she thinks this isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Understand why Genie's doing it.

Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
Mostly, I think most Lakers fans would actually agree with
Rich there. Yeah, well really, well they're not really they're
not fans of Genie Bus. Well, they're not fans of
Genie bus right at all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Well, see, and this is my point is you you've
got to understand that, yes, they're looking to win championships,
and they're obviously looking to win a lot of basketball games,
but you know what they're looking for more is money. Yeah,
and Lebron James prints money for this franchise. So anybody
who's blaming Darvin Ham acting as if he has any
control over this roster, the game time that players receive

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on this roster, you are, i mean, completely missing the
whole thing. This is Lebron's team. He's got a player option.
He can lord that over them anytime he wants the
decision made. So any of the by the way, any
of the praise you want to give the Lakers directed
toward Lebron, any of the blame though, also directed toward Lebron.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
All right, last matchup in the Eastern Conference, Knicks have
a one point lead over the Bulls fourteen seconds ago,
and again a Knicks win, they're the two seed. A
Knicks loss, they will be the three seed. The Bucks
will be the two seed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
We roll off with much more to this incredible busy
Sunday here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Arnberger here
Fox Sports Sunday. So the Laker Pelican game is underway
and the Lakers are off to a hot start here Rich.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
To start this game.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
They lead eleven to four, and again, this is a
huge game for both of these teams. Pelicans win secures
the sixth spot and they avoid the playing round. But
if the Pelicans lose and Phoenix wins, then the Pelicans
would have a rematch against the Lakers in the seven

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to eight matchup. That game would be in New Orleans,
and so the Lakers, obviously, if they win, would avoid
the nine to ten game, which would then be Sacramento
and Golden State, regardless of their games later on today.
So there's a huge match up here between the Pelicans
and the Lakers. And right now the Lakers seemingly are
in control, playing their a game, and Austin Reeves just

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missed a three that would have been big, all right,
So we got that going on. Of course, we have
this masters going on right now. Let me ask you this,
I think quick question here. We don't have a lot
of time before the top of the hour, we're talking
about this yesterday, tradition. I'm an old school guy, rich
and I don't know if you know this. I'm sort
of into the history of sports.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Yeah, that's actually ought to hear that from you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Yeah, I know very much. So I just want to
hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Yeah, I just want to get Yeah, most stats a
big part of it, the only part of it anyway.
But I just wonder when we talk about tradition, because
we've been we can argue about the Masters, and it's
you know, with Tiger no longer a factor, you know,
just how big is the Masters? And every golfer, any golfer,

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any golfer, will tell you the reason the Masters is
the tournament that it is and has the prestige that
it has, is that it has the tradition. You can
feel it the second you walk on the grounds. And
this could be you know, if you're a seventy year
old golfer, a twenty year it doesn't matter. It's all
of It's literally golf's nirvana. But let me ask you

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this from the perspective of today's athlete. Does tradition matter?
Let me just end the question, right, now, does tradition matter.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Yeah, my answer is simple, it absolutely does. I think
that there's a lot of traditions that have recently been
turned upside down. I mean, just look at college sports
in general, but especially college football and basketball with name,
image and likeness and some of what's going on, and
you can you can see some of that, but it does.

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You know, super Bowl victories and championships, those are traditionally
important things.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
That's not going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
The majors in golf, those are traditionally important things. So
even though there's a new league called Live Golf, all
of those lift golfers still want a green jacket. So yeah,
tradition for any of the modern athletes, not all traditions,
but many of them still very much don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Yeah, I just I hope so because there is something.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
I mean, sports is still a generational pass down from
generation to generation, and I don't think that ever changes
some of the traditions. I actually agree with people and
say some traditions need to be changed. New traditions are
be informed.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
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Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
I'm just sorry of throwing a number out. There's probably
more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
And we are keeping our eye on the scoreboard right now.
In the NBA, So the Eastern Conference you heard from
Monse during the update, playoff matches are set, although we
still have to determine obviously the seven and eight seeds
in the Eastern Conference. As far as the West is concerned,
all these games are going on right now. The Lakers

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with a six point lead on the road against New
Orleans and that is a huge matchup there. But we're
keeping our eyes especially at the top. We have three
teams tied at one, two, three, I mean we're talking about,
you know, what's happening at the bottom of the bracket
in the Western Conference. How about a three white tie
at the top of the Western Conference going into the

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final Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it's everything you want. You want,
a competitive round of golf on Sunday. And I think
some of the more familiar faces from more recent golf
pass like you know, Mickelson and Woods and you know,
even you know, like we were talking about a little
bit Ricky Fowler and Roy McElroy, who have you know,

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have been in some ways replaced by some of the
other younger golfers coming up, like a Colin Marikawa, who
if he wins we're talking about his then second Master's victory,
his third major victory.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Is no, Marikawa has not won the Masters, oh ye
when he won the Open Championship and he won the PGA,
that would give him three of the four, three of
the four, so his his major, his Masters and would
only be a US Open away from the career Grand Slam,
which again, only five golfers have ever won all four
of the majors during the course of their careers.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
If Scheffler wins it, he improves his major count to three.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Right, No, shefferd just won the Masters.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
He just won the Masters. I was off, But I'm
going to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Tell you right now talking about time, that we're gonna
have Ludwig Oberg is gonna win the Masters. Now he
is two unner on the days. One shout out of
the lead. Scheffler just hit his drive on seven into
the woods right now. I don't know even if his
wife is not ready to deliver today, it's got to
be sort of on your mind, right And I mean

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the the soon to arrive first child. I don't know
how what was your mindset in the days, uh leading
that to the birth of Tie, your your first son.
I nerve he distracted at all.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
I mean yeah, I mean I didn't have a whole
lot going on at that point because I had Ty
was born in June of twenty fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
I had season ending back.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Surgery on a one year deal with the Chargers.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
The year before.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Is he really going to be nine?

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
He's going to be about to be nine. He's about
to be nine? Yeah, I know, dude, time flies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
The hell's going on here?

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
We were We've been working together for a very long time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
I've found wow.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Yeah, well, I remember when Sebastia was born, obviously your second,
so yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
I mean it's uh, it's pretty it's pretty amazing when
you think about it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
I was blessed because I had the opportunity to really
I throw myself into parenthood without the distraction of having
to work at that time, because I.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
Had just really retired from football.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Even though I was trying to get workouts going with
certain teams, my only job at that point was just
sustain in good enough shape that if any team's called me,
I would be ready to, you know, sort of parachute
in and help it to win from the moment I
got there. So I was keeping my weight up, I
was working out and keeping in shape. But you know,
the reality of the situation is when you're an unrestricted

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free agent in the NFL looking for your next opportunity, you're.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Basically unemployed, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
So that's where I was at in twenty fourteen, or
I should say the summer of twenty fifteen when my
firstborn was what came along. And and but I can
tell you it was all encompassing. When you're down the
home stretch when your wife is very pregnant and you're
getting ready for the date. It's it's all you can
think about, really, So it might be good in some

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ways that Scottie Scheffler has, you know, a little bit
of an important distraction going on, because if she doesn't
go into labor while he's in augusta, well, he gets
to kind of have the best of both worlds. He
gets to finish out what will end up being undeniably
a high finish or a victory for the second time
at the Master, or you know, and then have a

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baby or you know. I mean, you know, even if
he kind of flames out, even if I see how
he finishes twentieth, if he gets to finish the Masters,
I mean, it's kind of it's kind of impressive that
during this time he was able to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
So I don't know, this.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Sort of feels like a win win for Scottie Scheffler
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Again, after hitting into the woods, he hit his second
shot into the bunker. He just had out of the bunker,
and he's got a lengthy par putt here, and if
he were to miss that, then we are going to
have at least a three way tie at the top
of the lead aboard, and so this is the kind
of finish you want, you know, it's and then you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
Get to that back nine of the Masters.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
It really is amazing when you think about how, you know,
Bobby Jones and that whole group that put together Mackenzie,
the guy that was the architect of this course, you know,
put it together of the risk reward of the back
nine at August National, and then you amp it up
obviously on Sundays with the final round. It just never fails.

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I mean, that's why it's it's such a special tournament
in that respect. And I've shared stories again from people
that I've known that golfers over the years that have
won this tournament, and I ask them all, I mean,
why why the Masters?

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
What's the suspecsion? They said, it's everything.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Every little detail of this golf tournament makes it Golf's
nirvana for a golfer. There's a reason, there's a reason
why they still actually send out a formal invitation to
every golfer that's invited. It's an invitational to play in
the Masters. You get a card in the mail, it's

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a formal invitation. You're invited to play in the Masters,
even though you'd already know you're in it. It's not
like a secret, you know how you qualified it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
And these guys that have played, you know, if you're
a former champion, you play thirty forty years, I mean,
you just keep playing in this thing, and they say
it's still give some goosebumps every time they get that invitation.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
And well, how could it not. I mean, look again,
you asked me a question about do modern athletes and
I look, I hung up my cleats in football about
ten years ago. You're still but I mean, having played recently,
I guess. And you asked the question, is tradition important?
And that's the answer to that question. Like the fact
that it doesn't matter where these golfers are coming from,

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what tour they're playing on, whether it be PGA or
Live or any of them amateur ranks who get an
opportunity like this, Neil Shipley, The fact that you get
a formal invitation to go play at one of the
most esteemed and exclusive country clubs on the planet, and

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where all of your golf heroes have played. You know
how many you know, like majestic moments have occurred on
the greens and the fairways and the t boxes over
the core of the history of golf at that tournament,
at that very same course. It's it's something that's still gripping.

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It's something that's still important. And like you said, there
are certain traditions in sports that need to change, that
need to go away. There are certain traditions that have
been holding back certain sports. I think baseball is guilty
of many of these things. I think baseball has been
attempting recently to give itself a bit of a facelift,
to get a little bit more of the stodginess out

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of the sport and become a little bit more accepting
of the times wherein and golf maybe the same way.
You know, there's obviously a lot of that same very
prim and proper feeling associated around golf, and some of
those walls are coming down to. But traditions, the important ones,
the ones that will stand the test of time, are
still important to modern athletes. And I think the Masters

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and some of the other majors really they really exemplify
that and they highly and this week and the finish
to this week with a bunch of young guys at
close to the top of this leaderboard with Scheffler, more,
Kawa and Homa.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
You know, these these are good. This is the next
generation of golf.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
All these guys are like basically thirty or younger who
were talking about in contention.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
On Sunday, I was listening to a talk show hosted
by a woman. I'm not sure who she was, but
she sounded fairly knowledgeable, so I tuned in for a
little bit and she was talking about the Master's golf tournament,
admitting that she knows nothing about golf.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
She goes like, I don't get this at all, this
whole golf thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
But she said, what I really don't understand is how
do you get away with a golf tournament named the Masters?
H How does that fly in twenty twenty four? And
I'm like, it's an interesting spin that I'd never thought about. Yeah,

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I mean, she goes, so the name of this tournament
is the Masters. Yeah, And I'm like, they never really
thought about that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
I mean, I guess there's a lot of phrases that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
You know, and oh this in this world, I mean,
everything has been twisted, you know that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Yeah, I was gonna say, though, I think I think
there's a lot of phrases that have been you know,
re examined under the current lens, you know, whether it
be the boy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Well, remember they don't like to use the term owners anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
In basketball in the NBA, they're referred to as governors.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Yeah, they you're no longer an owner because of I
guess perceived reference. Uh so you're now a governor and
that I think she was following up without like masters. Really,
I was like, can we just stop and just it's
a golf tournament, okay, and you got the best golfers

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in the world and they're competing for a green jacksually
goes what's up with that green jacket thing?

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
And I'm like, oh, case stop. Then I turned the channel.
I was like enough.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Lakers, by the way, are leading the Pelicans twenty eight
twenty four at the end of the first quarter. The
Thunder are in the driver's seat to be the one
seed in the West if they win today, and they
have doubled up on the Mavericks forty four to twenty two.
Second quarter just underway there. Meanwhile, apparently the Timberwolves, who

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conceivably be the one seed if they won in the
Thunder loss, they're getting blown out at home by the Suns.
Sons are desperately trying to get out of that seventh seed,
so if they win and the Pelicans lose, the Suns
will be the sixth seed. They avoid the playing round,
and then the Pelicans and the Lakers have a rematch.
We'll have much more on that, but we're gonna take
a little detour on the other side and check in

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with our MLB insider, John Paul Morosi will join us.
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It is time to check in with one of our
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Is also mister Hockey, among many, many, many other things.
The great John Paul Morosi is joining us right now.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
JP.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
I want to actually ask you a hockey question. First,
sure about the future of the Coyotes franchise. So the
question is, are they going to move to Utah, and
if they do, does Arizona get an expansion team, because
there's been talk about a new arena to try to
keep the NHL in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
How is this going to play out?

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
Well? Good afterdon gentlemen. It is a big topic right
now in hockey circles, and it does appear, based on
what we know publicly, that that a move to Utah
is likely as long as the league and the current
Coyotes ownership and the incoming Utah ownership can get everything

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organized this week. And Elliott Freeman reported last night on
Hockey Night in Canada that the hope is that they'll
have an announcement by the end of this week. So
things are moving quickly. I think the NHL just simply
was not comfortable waiting for the result of the land
auction later on this year. Of course, there was at

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one point in time a vote in Tempe that would
have been mixed use and a full entertainment district that
they had very high hopes for, but the voters of
Tempe rejected that proposal, and so once that proposal failed,
there really wasn't a clear spot for them to go.
And that's why the land auction had become their best

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option at this stage. But the NHL has been down
this road with Arizona so many times. They just simply
couldn't wait, and they knew they had a very eager
ownership group in Utah, one that would coincide with, of course,
Salt Lake City, we believe will be hosting a future
Winter Olympic Games with NHL pleas Ole Sports. They've also

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expressed an interest in baseball as well, so I think
the NHL saw an opportunity and it's it's sad. I
really I feel for the fans of Arizona because there
has been a very core loyal group of fans of
the Coyotes for a long time. But the lack of
a viable, long term NHL home there, I think was

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just in the end too big of an obstacle. And
they've had some great moments. And then let's not forget
the best player, the best American player right now, Austin
Matthews grew up in Scottsdale. And if the Coyotes don't
exist the Maple Lee, we don't have their superstar player,
and Team USA doesn't have the superstar player at the

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next Olympics. So we owe we as American hockey people,
owe a great debt of gratitude to the commissioner for
having a franchise there and the Coyotes group and the
Junior Coyotes that that have done a lot to develop
young talent there for a long time. It's just I
think the NHL just can't wait any longer, and it
looks like by the end of this week we could

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have an NHL franchise in Salt Lake City.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
Switching gears to Major League Baseball. You accurately predicted last
week when we finished our interview that it wouldn't be
the last time we were talking about shoe Heyo Tani
and his interpreter, Ipe Mitch O'Hara and the alleged at
the moment theft of millions of dollars. Well, that amount
has now ballooned up beyond that four and a half

(01:35:51):
million dollars that was reported originally to over sixteen million
dollars of show Heyo Tani's money stolen from him to
I guess pay for what was a degenerate gambling addiction
by Mitsuhara, and he was using a illegal sports book
to place his bets and the bets ranged from ten

(01:36:13):
dollars to hundreds of thousands of dollars. His average bet
was somewhere in the range of thirteen thousand dollars. I
I'm willing to believe that somebody can be naive and
be convinced by a con man that you're that that
that everything's on the up and up, that they're operating

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com with with you know, any disregard to truth or
feeling or empathy for the person that they're affecting, and
that that potentially show Hey Otani had no thoughts that
anything below board was happening with ipe Mitzuhara, but but
he didn't notice that sixteen million dollars was missing at

(01:36:54):
any point. It was there was no inkling that that
ip A mitz Ohara was involved in anything other than
just being his interpreter. That this was I mean from
everything I've read and maybe you know more than I
do on this one, JP, but this was a complete
shock to show Hey at the time that these revelations
were brought to the general public, but he had he

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had no prior notice that anything was happening.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
Is is that is that the report as it stands, Yes,
it is and It really.

Speaker 5 (01:37:26):
Is a striking time in American sports to process what
has happened. And what I think is important to point
out Rich is that what Shoi Otani said publicly at
the very highly attended and broadly broadcast statement that he

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gave a Dodger Stadium before opening day, that what he
said that day checks out with the results of the
federal investigation. And so in every possible way, based on
what we have available to us at the moment, show
A has been completely exonerated in terms of any questions

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that were sent his way about his extentive knowledge. And
I think, to me, it's a reminder, and you've lived
this in professional sports when when you gain a level
of fame and prosperity in the pro game's there's people
around you. People are aware of how much pro athletes make.

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And I think that this certainly is a very strong
bit of reminder, cautionary tale for all athletes to double check,
triple check your financial well being, to consider the people
who are around you and have access to your accounts.

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Hueer trusting because obviously it was not just SHOWE who
had implicit trust in in epay. It was Show's representatives
that c AA also had the same level of trust
in Epay, and Ipay had built up this goodwill all
over the place, and clearly he betrayed that trust, and

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and that to me is something that is a profound
cautionary tale. Obviously, there's going to be still the criminal proceedings,
and there's the jurisprudence aspect of all this that has
not yet been finalized. But I think whenever the book
is closed on Epay and and what happened there, the

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conversation will remain about pro athletes, who's around them, who's
advising them, what the best practices are, and also honestly
the best practices of teams, and who is allowed to
be in the circle of trust, because clearly this is
a profound hardship that show is now going through. Clearly,

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his play has been phenomenal through it is he's expert
at compartmentalizing, clearly, but there's there's personal pain here, and
I think that that, to me is something that is
going to linger as a great lesson to everybody involved
in sports. When when this uh, when this particular controversy
is in the rear view mirror of the of the

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public consciousness.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
JP were barely three weeks into the season and pitchers
are dropping like flies, I mean, season ending injuries, pictures
going on the I l.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
How much of this, if any, has to do with
the pitching clock, Steve, I really believe.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
It is almost nothing to do with the pitching clock.
And listen, these are nuanced topics. It's difficult when you
think about the human body for for anyone to say,
injury A is the clear consequence of factor B. Period,
There's no other element going on here. But I think

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that the important thing to keep in mind here is
the trend of velocity and spin and sports specialization and
teenagers having Tommy John surgery, and teenagers and younger specializing
in one sport and playing a year round. Those trends
were in play, and those trends were having militarious impacts

(01:41:21):
on pitcher health long before the pitchtimer became an element
of the game. And so I think it's just a
little bit disingenuous to say that that's the cause of it.
Could it be having some small impact, I suppose as possible,
but I don't see it in the numbers and in
the data, because the just look at the number of

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two hundred inning pitchers that we have in any given year.
In twenty twenty two, which was the last year before
the pitch timer came into being, compare that to twenty twelve,
Compare that to two thousand and two. It's become a
different game in the last twenty years, and that, to
me is a question that's going to have to be

(01:42:05):
reckoned with by MLB and the players. But no, I
do not think this is an issue of the pitch timer.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Hey JP, It's becoming more prevalent where you see umpires
making I don't know, poor judgment calls behind home played,
especially with balls and strikes.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
And we know the human condition. We know that sometimes
you know, vindictiveness.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
Or tired eyes, or you know, a variety of different
reasons can lead to bad calls being made.

Speaker 4 (01:42:35):
But it's just becoming easier to see these bad calls,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
So as much as it's been a part of the
game for I mean well over a century now, it
feels like we're getting closer and closer to that being
the next major change in Major League Baseball to have
a system in place where these home played umpires are
overruled or at least challenged by robotic umps and then
potentially ultimately replaced by robotic ms.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
How close are we though, Well, I do think that
in the next three to four years we will see
some element of the automated ball Strike system ABS, as
it's called it in the minor leagues. Whether it's next
year is I think still to be determined. It seems
to me that based on surveys and what's been said

(01:43:24):
that minor league players like the challenge system, whereby if
there is an egregious miss during your ad bat, you
tap your helmet and you say, I want to review this,
and within ten seconds there's a new call if it
was missed, and the umpire makes the adjustment. I think

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that's the fairest way to do it, because there are
still times where by the letter of the law, a
ball should be considered a strike. Let's say a catcher
sets up inside to a left handed batter, but the
pitcher misses a spot by a foot and the catcher
has to lean over to the other side of the

(01:44:05):
of the plate to catch it. The ball technically eclips
the strike zone, but that has not been a strike
in the old history of baseball because the pictures the
spot by a foot and along those lines that if
it's the challenge system, the catcher is not going to
ask for a challenge there because because that's just never

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been a strike and you would not think to do that,
and because if you only get three a game, you
want to be darned sure that you're going to get
the call when you when you ask for the challenge.
And so that's where I think it's going. Where it
seems that the minor league hitters they like the consistency
of the strike zone and in a lot of ways

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they like they still like having some element of the
of the human part of the game. The umpire gets
to keep his part of the game. He's got a
little bit of a bad stop behind him, but it's
still part of the game. And the catcher importantly, pitch framing, calling, presentation,
they're still part of the game. You just have a

(01:45:10):
little bit of a helper if a call is missed egregiously.
And I think that, honestly, is what brought instant replay
into our game to begin with. It was avoiding the
perfect game spoiling call or the game changing miss on
the basis it was not to be fair the call
that we see sometimes where the replay tries to catch

(01:45:34):
the glimpse if the runner slid and lost contact with
a base and second base for a fraction of a second,
but was safe otherwise and is now getting called out.
That's not why we brought in replay. It's still fair,
that's what happens, but that's not the reason why we
got it. And I think that this would be a

(01:45:55):
part of the game to prevent the egregious miss Even though,
as I have said many times, my friends, the umpires
are as good now and as accurate now as they've
ever been. We just didn't really have social media forty
years ago to capture and descend through the internet every
miss that a whole plan umpire makes.

Speaker 1 (01:46:14):
Yeah, well again, strike ball, fair, foul, safe out.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
All can be done electronically. I would eliminate umpires, but that's.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
Just me, that's just I.

Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
See. We could disagree with I know, I know many
things we don't aligned on, but this is not one
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
We have no fouls, we know, I have no penalties
to call. All could be done electronically.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
JP.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
You are the best of the best, and whatever we
talk about with you, we'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
Thanks so much, my pleasures, gentlemen, What.

Speaker 5 (01:46:40):
A great week for baseball and hockey coming up. And congratulations,
by the way, the University of Denver frozen four Yes
last night, David Carl wins the World Junior gold medal
and the NCAA Championship as the head coach of the
same year, great great hockey coach.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Yeah, still waiting for UCLA to win their first hockey
champions I don't think it's gonna okay now that now
that u c l A. We're a Big ten school.

Speaker 5 (01:47:04):
Now join the Big ten and it's and why welcome
hol of you to the Midwest. Welcome, Welcome in the Midwest.
I know you always want to be like us. Anyway,
tonight please Midwesterners, and so welcome to the Midwest. Let's
get it. And by the way, I gotta say this,
I gotta say this, a hockey game between UCLA and
usc would feature two awesome hockey sweaters. I'm telling you

(01:47:30):
those those the script. I want to see the script
U c l A and the and the block sc
on a hockey game. Sign me up, put down the
ice of Paul Pavilion.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
I'm there, all right, we're all big ten people here.
The Michigan fan, mister Penn State, mister UCLA.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
We're all in the same house these days, all right, JP,
We'll talk to you next week. Love you guys, Thanks
so much, John Paul Morosi.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Let's find out what is trending right now, and she
has been responsible for trying to make sense of what's happening. Diday,
a crazy final day of the regular season in the
NBA plus the Masters.

Speaker 9 (01:48:05):
Yea, yeah, no, the Masters is also getting crazy right now.

Speaker 7 (01:48:07):
We have a three way tie Scotti, Scheffler, Colin Morrikawa,
and Ludwig.

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
Heil Olberg Oberg. Yeah, it said a, but it's like
over Okay, it's.

Speaker 9 (01:48:16):
A three way tie.

Speaker 7 (01:48:17):
They are all seven underpar overall, plenty of game left
at the Masters.

Speaker 9 (01:48:22):
Okay, now we're gonna head to the NBA fellas for
the first time ever.

Speaker 7 (01:48:26):
In the Western Conference, there's currently a three way tie
for the top seed in the West between the Nuggets,
the Timberwolves, and the thunder.

Speaker 9 (01:48:34):
Let's say that they all win or they all lose.
The number one seed would be the Thunder.

Speaker 7 (01:48:41):
Then the Timberwolves would be the two seed, and the
Nuggets would be the three seed. That's if they all
lose if they all win. The Nuggets right now are
beating the Grizzlies sixty four to fifty one. They're headed
to halftime. The Timberwolves are losing to the Suns. The
Suns want to win. It is sixty six fifty three
at halftime. The Thunder crushing the Mavericks eighty two to
forty one at halftime. So let's say this scenario sticks

(01:49:06):
and the Timberwolves lose, but the Nuggets and the Thunder win.
Then the Thunder would be the number one seed, the
Nuggets would be the two seed, and the Wolves would
be the three seed. But anything can happen, fellas, so
much game left, the other games going on. Lakers on
top of the Pelicans sixty to forty three, three minutes to.

Speaker 9 (01:49:24):
Go in the first half.

Speaker 7 (01:49:26):
At halftime, Spurs playing without Victor Wan Banyama are beating
the Pistons.

Speaker 9 (01:49:30):
Nobody really cares, but why not?

Speaker 7 (01:49:32):
Sixty three forty Warriors Jazz Warriors on top sixty three
fifty six, also halftime, just like in LA, where the
Clippers are up on the Rockets fifty one to forty eight.
The Kings also trying to win this one at halftime,
up on the Trailblazer sixty five to thirty seven.

Speaker 9 (01:49:48):
We do know what's happening.

Speaker 7 (01:49:49):
In the Eastern Conference playoffs, New York secured the number
two seed after defeating the Bulls in overtime. They're gonna
face the winner of the seven to eight playing game
between the Heat and the seventy six ers on Wednesday.
Chicago is gonna host the Hawks as the nine ten
seeds on Wednesday as well. The Magic beat the Bucks,
but Milwaukee secured the third seed. They're gonna face Indiana,
who is the sixth seed. And then the Hornets defeated

(01:50:12):
the Calves, so the Calves fall to the fourth seed.
They're gonna take on Orlando as the fifth seed. Too
much going on, We've.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Got based When you repeat that, I'm shy.

Speaker 6 (01:50:24):
I try to make it as simple as possible.

Speaker 7 (01:50:26):
No scores, just their seeds, no scores of who they beat,
because it doesn't matter anymore. In Major League Baseball, we're
in extra innings in Cleveland between the Yankees and the Guardians,
with Anthony Rizzo with an RBI single puts the Yankees
on top it seven to five. Bottom of the fifth
again in Cleveland, Reds beating the White Sox ten to three,

(01:50:47):
bottom of the seventh, Astro still beating the Rangers.

Speaker 9 (01:50:50):
At home eight to two top of the ninth, and
the Cubs with the early lead against the Mariners. It's
one zero.

Speaker 7 (01:50:56):
They're about to start the bottom of the second inning.
Victory is also for the Red Sox and the Orioles.
The Pirates give Andrew McCutcheon his flowers his three hundredth
career home run as they beat the Phillies. Blue Jays
also won braves over the Marlins, Tigers over the Twins.

Speaker 9 (01:51:11):
And the Rays beat the Giants.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
What a day.

Speaker 9 (01:51:14):
I need a drink.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
You take a break, one seed, you take a break,
because I hate to tell you got a lot more coming.

Speaker 9 (01:51:24):
Yeah, I'm still here, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
By the way, it's it's great to see the Mavericks
really show up today. So Dodger sits Yeah, and they're
down eighty two to forty one at half time.

Speaker 9 (01:51:37):
Right, yeah, yeah one at the half Clippers.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
You think dodgon Ch has an effect.

Speaker 4 (01:51:44):
On that team?

Speaker 9 (01:51:44):
Maybe maybe he may be the MVP.

Speaker 13 (01:51:46):
Can I throw a thought out to you guys?

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:51:48):
Yeah, okay, So based on the way everything is falling
right now, right now, Thunder would be the one seed,
right correct, Yes, if I am the Los Angeles Lakers.
If I'm the seventh seed, do I throw the first
playing game?

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Okay, So here's the deal right now.

Speaker 13 (01:52:02):
So since eat seed and avoid the Nuggets.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
Exactly so again right now, since the Mavericks didn't show
up today, the Thunder will be the one seed in
the West. The Timberwolves are losing right now by thirteen
and a half and the Nuggets are winning by twelve
at the half on the road against the Grizzlies.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
So if the t Wolves lose and the.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Nuggets win, and Okase is already going to be the
one seed, that would make the Nuggets the two seed,
meaning the winner of the seven to eight game, which
right now looks like it's going to be a rematch
between the Lakers and the Pelicans. The winner of that
game will match up against the Nuggets. That is not
a team the Lakers want to see in the first round.
The Nuggets haven't lost to them in.

Speaker 1 (01:52:44):
What three years? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
I mean, I mean well two years. I'm regular season.
I guess they beat them last year, but they got
swept in the playoffs. They lost every game the Lakers
this year to the Nuggets. So you're right now, if
they lose the seven eight game, then the Lakers is
to play the winner of the nine to ten matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
But that's not a good deal for them as well.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
The Kings have owned them this year. And if it's
the Warriors, I don't know if you really want to
take a shot against the Warriors.

Speaker 13 (01:53:12):
I would take the Warriors at home against the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
Look, if you're the Lakers and you have a healthy
Lebron James and a healthy Anthony Davis like you have
right now, any have Hatchamur and you got Reeves and
you got you know, d Low, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
You shouldn't have to fear the Nuggets. You're gonna have
to beat.

Speaker 13 (01:53:29):
Them any I'm honestly not of I'm not of the
I would.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
Rather play the Nuggets in the first round, to be honest.

Speaker 13 (01:53:35):
And people forget that. Yeah they got swept, but those
games were all close until the other games.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
I would get the Nuggets, you know, if, especially if
you've got a game under your belt in the playing round,
maybe get a little momentum going into the series.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
Maybe steal a game in Denver. I'd rolled my dice.

Speaker 13 (01:53:51):
I just think the Lakers would beat the Thunder in
a playoff series. I really do.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Well, maybe, but I mean again, if you're if you're
end game is to win the NBA Championship, it's not
whether the Lakers are not of the mindset like, wow,
let's win a playoff series.

Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
No, obviously not.

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
That's not.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
Well the goal here here, here's reality. With the players
they have, they should be able to win any series.
But the problem is you look at the regular season.
You say, well, then why is their regular season so
poor record wise, because for the most part Ad and
Lebron have been pretty healthy this year.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Yeah, well, I mean it's because they were mismanaged early
in the season. They dug a hole they've been trying
to crawl out of it. Plus, by the way, the
Western Conference is just loaded this shack all right. On
the other side, we'll put a wrap on things for us.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Ri Tronberger, Fox
Sports Sunday. We're live from the tai IRAQ dot Com
studios are amazing a plus supporting cast doing it today.

(01:54:56):
Moncey of course exhausted. Let's hear Moncey's recap of what
she's done so fun.

Speaker 7 (01:55:04):
I just want there's smoke coming out of my ears, yes,
because I.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Feel you've been working over time.

Speaker 9 (01:55:13):
It's just in bot.

Speaker 6 (01:55:14):
I'm trying to keep it as like simple as possible.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
To you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
And by the way, trying to solve the three body problem.

Speaker 9 (01:55:21):
I already figured it out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Now. You were nice enough to bring some tequila last night.
I did, but you didn't drink any well, you know,
I was drinking wine. You were drinking wine with me.

Speaker 7 (01:55:30):
Yeah, you brought it, and I know, I know, And
then I wasn't sure, like you know, if we're going
to party till two in the morning or whatnot.

Speaker 9 (01:55:35):
So I just brought the tequila to be safe. But
now next time I'm invited, it'll be there.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Well, it is there, It is there waiting for you.
A great job as always, Moncey, Thank you so much.
Bo of course, uh Mann. In the situation, we're just
talking about the Lakers situation here. So if the Lakers win,
they'll have a rematch against the Pelicans in New Orleans
in the seven eight game, and then if they win
that game, most likely right now we'll be playing the

(01:56:00):
Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 13 (01:56:02):
Well, you know what has been on my mind all day. Actually,
I guess my invite for your house last time must
have got lost in the realm.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
We space it out, that's what we did.

Speaker 4 (01:56:14):
There was not enough space for both.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Well, well, of course you could do what Iowa Sam
did and just invite himself.

Speaker 13 (01:56:22):
Yeah, that sounds like Sam.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
Is exactly what Sam did.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
My over, Well, what happen was my sister who has
lived in Iowa for forty years, the valley girl from
California to move to Iowa.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
He wanted to meet her, you know, and so.

Speaker 4 (01:56:37):
What was I gonna argue with that.

Speaker 13 (01:56:38):
That's a good excuse from Sam. That's creative.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
So that was very good.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
And I'm very happy that Chris has a new fridge,
which was a big story this week for.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
I don't want to come over to your place.

Speaker 10 (01:56:49):
I just want to go out for beers.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
Yes, and we are going to do that eventually, We're
going to get all.

Speaker 10 (01:56:53):
That nice conversation at liquor.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
But yes, I do have a fridge.

Speaker 10 (01:56:56):
Finally, after my landlord finally found the part of the
least said they don't have to paid to repair my fridge.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Okay, right, so you had to dig into your own
pocket to get that fridge.

Speaker 10 (01:57:05):
Now, God blessed Low's in twelve months, same as cash financing.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
I guess, well, all your goodies are there.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
I don't have to worry about fridge because I never
have any food in my place period any accurate by
the way, So Scotty Scheffler and Colin Morikawa were tied
at minus seven going into the ninth hole. They walked
away from the ninth green Scheffler at minus eight and
Maricawa at minus five. Scheffler birdied, Moricawa double bogied. So

(01:57:33):
Scheffler now is one shot lead over Oberg and Homa.
Max Homa, who's never done anything in majors like he's He's.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
Won several times on the PGA Tour.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
I think he finally had his first top ten at
the Open Championship last year. I guess he tied for tenth.
We've been waiting for a guy like Homa to show
up in a major, and he's doing it right now.
So Scheffler with that one shot lead as they have
made the turn and head to the back nine of
the Masters, which.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
Is always a throw, always a throw.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
I mean, can you imagine the knee knocking that goes
on when you realize you're at the top of the leaderboard.
You know, the crowds are now, I mean they're it's
all distilled down to that final group making its way.

Speaker 4 (01:58:17):
Oh my gosh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
I don't know how anybody performs under the that's where
you do that. I mean, when you when you're standing
over one of those putt. Now, this happened a couple
of years ago with Scheffler when he was trying to
wrap up and did wrap up his first Masters championship.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
He was feeling it on eighteen. Oh yeah, try.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
I mean, he had the luxury of a couple extra putts,
but he missed one. Was like wo okay, breathe, breathe.

Speaker 10 (01:58:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Yeah, I don't know how they did. I mean that
that whole like, if you have like a five foot putt,
you know you have to make it. And this was
Tiger in his heyday. Man. You remember the putty rolled
in at Tory Pines in the eight US Open to
force the playoff. I mean that holes guy looked.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
Like a beaty hole, right yeah, and he just drained it.
And that was the beauty of it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
Whether or not we'll ever see Tiger again again. If
you missed, and he shot seventy seven, tod He actually
finished last among the golfers that made the cut this year.
Roy McElroy, by the way, another year of not winning
the Masters, A very forgettable trip to Augusta for him.
But if it's at it for Tiger, guess what he
owes the game nothing. I just you know, I hope

(01:59:27):
it's not the end.

Speaker 3 (01:59:28):
But but yeah, like you said earlier in the show,
this could have been our last chance to see Tiger
out of Masters.

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
That's very sad. But thanks for the memories. If that's
the case.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Yeah, all right, So we'll keep us updated.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Without Without us, you'll not know what's going to happen
in the NBA and the Master, So keep it right here.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
A lot more coming up. This is Fox Sports Radio.