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April 28, 2024 • 157 mins

On a new episode of the Bernie Fratto Show, Bernie opens the show recapping the latest slate of NBA playoff games. Denver radio personality Chad Andrus joins the show to talk Nuggets basketball. National NBA reporter Mark Medina joins for some weekly "Midnight Medina Magic"! Bernie and the crew also put a bow on a record-setting NFL draft, going over some of the most noteworthy storylines from across all three days and discussing who of the six first-round quarterbacks could wind up a bust. Plus, more fun with new editions of "What Kind of Brand New Fool Are You?" and "What My Name?"

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jam pack show for you tonight will cover it all.
The twenty twenty four NFL Draft is in the books.
I'll have a lot of comprehensive coverage on that as
the show goes on, plenty of takeaways. At one am sharp,
I'm going to deliver what I will believe is a
fairly pointed commentary on why drafting a successful NFL quarterback

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is an inexact science and inexact art, especially in the
first round, and when you hear the numbers and the
chances for success, you'll be scratching your head. And this
goes back to nineteen sixty seven, and we have even
new data since the rookie salary cap era started in

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twenty eleven, so we'll have that for you coming up
at one am, and before then, lots of other draft
stuff as well, But we have to start with the
NBA playoffs because what would have been a pretty significant story.
I think if the Lakers had been swept Saturday night
for the second year in a row to the same team,

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I think that would have been headline material. But that
didn't happen. The Lakers earned a trip back to Denver,
and by the way, coming up at about fifteen minutes
or so, we'll have Chad Andrews from Denver weighing in
on that. He covers the Nuggets as well. We'll have
him talk about, of course the Broncos and Sean Payton,
the quarterback Whisperer. But the NBA playoffs are really starting

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to take now, and I think they'll be drawing a
lot more attention that the NFL Draft is in the books,
and there are actually some significant observations I had from
Denver's eleven point loss Saturday night at Crypto dot Comerno.
And by the way, the interesting thing about this series,
as we now have four games in the books, is,

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as Yogi Barrett would say, all four of these games
had different similarities. The Lakers led by double digits at
halftime in all four games. So what would happen Saturday
night after witnessing what happened Thursday and the other three games,
and of course last year. These are my observations. And

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does this carry over to Monday? I don't know. I
don't think so. But got to give the Lakers some
credit because they presented a major problem to Denver's paint defense.
It was a problem in Game three the Lakers scored
seventy points in the paint, but it continued to be
a problem against Saturday Anthony Davis and the crew, they

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actually surpassed that number. Saturday Lakers scored twenty four over
their first They checked that twenty four of their twenty
eight first quarter points in the paint, and by halftime
the Lakers had a decided advantage in the paint in
points forty two to twenty four. They finished the game

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the Lakers did with seventy two points in the paint,
topping the seventy points in Game three. Denver only had
fifty two points in the paint. This is something to
watch Monday, because if Denver doesn't want to have to
play Los Angeles in Los Angeles for a Game six,

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They're going to have to make some adjustments to defend
the interior better and give it up to Anthony Davis
twenty five points, twenty three rebounds on Saturday night. And
we'll talk to Chad Anders about this, but I'm pretty
sure that Mike Malone had designs getting a sweep. He
wants his team rested heading into the next series, as
the playoffs only get tougher. The second observation, Denver has

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no one to blame but themselves. Yes, the Lakers dominance inside,
you know, near the hoop and as far as in
the paint is you know, been evident, and they had
you could call it at home court advantage tonight if
you want to call it that. On or Saturday night.
The Nuggets actually shot twenty five free throws and the

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Lakers only shot sixteen before they started falling intentionally in
the final forty seconds. Of course, the LA crowd started
channing refs, you suck after Nakola Jokik got Denver's twenty
and twenty first free throws late in the third quarter.
The Lakers had just eight free throws at that time,
so Laker fans repeated the chant later when Yoki got

(04:56):
back to the line for his eight to ninth free
throws of the game. Something to look at if if
the Lakers can have that kind of performance at home,
well that kind of deficit and get into the free
throw line again. Just something to watch on Monday. Now
Denver's an eight and a half point favorite on Monday.

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I don't expect the Lakers to force the game six
and we'll talk to Mark Medeena about that at midnight.
By the way, give it up to Michael Porter Junior again.
He is certainly the batman to the robin for Nicole Jolkick.
He is clearly Denver's second best player if there was
ever a debate. Double doubled in the third quarter, started

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the fourth quarter with twenty five points and ten rebounds,
finished with twenty seven points, eleven rebounds, and just for fun,
threw an assist and even got a steal. Played forty
minutes and even got four three pointers. Only he was
the only Nugget to get more than then two to

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you know, two three point. So the bottom line, the headline,
the Lakers. They led wire to wire. By the way,
that's another thing. They avoid the sweep. The Lakers avoid
the sleep. They led by five to start the second quarter,
All of a sudden, Denver falls by eleven. In the
second Lakers lead by thirteenth a half. This time it
was the Lakers that did the closing out, not Denver.

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And what was hidden behind all this? Nikolejoki gets his
nineteenth playoff triple double thirty three points, fourteen rebounds, fourteen assists.
But if I'm being honest, Joki was not great defensively,
especially in the paint, and I think one of the
key differences in this game and why Denver wasn't able

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to pull the rabbit out of the hat in the
fourth quarter. Aaron Gordon did not match his productivity from
Game three. He had playoff career highs of twenty nine
points and fifteen rebounds in Game three, but believe it
or not, Aaron Gordon only had seven points Saturday night.
So I think at the end of the day, even

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if you are Denver right now and you're up three
to one and you're flying home wishing you had to sweep,
you can probably start focusing on a second round matchup.
It looks like it's gonna be the Timberwolves for my money.
But ball Arena Game five Monday night. You still gotta
play the game. Yep, you still gotta play the game. Finally,

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by the way, give it give it up to the
Boston Celtics. I mean, Miami had that crazy twenty three
or forty three from behind the arc in Game two,
and I think the Celtics were caught by surprise watching
Miami launch forty three to three point attempts in Game two.
And for reasons I don't know that I completely understand.

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The Celtics are only four and seven at home in
their last eleven playoff games at home. I guess I'm
gonna call that Celtic culture. I don't know, maybe they're
not ready for prime time. You know, on paper, they
got the best roster and the East looks like theirs
for the taking. But I will tell you in Miami
on Saturday night, Boston pressured the heat all over the

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court from ninety four feet. They were as intense as
say Ben. Miami did attempt twenty eight three pointers, including
fourteen in the first half, and they hit a few.
But the Celtics they contested everything. They didn't give a
lot of free catches in space. They played very intense defense,
and so look without Jimmy Butler and Terry Roseier, Miami

(08:35):
could not you know, they had no solutions for Boston's defense.
Boston's defense was much tighter. And you know, I heard
some pundits on the radio, that's why you gotta be careful. Well,
you know, Boston loses at home when they are nine
and a half point favored on the road, and people
lack like the game has already been played. Well, Boston
hung that number without much issue, one oh four to

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eighty four. Do I think Miami can win another game
in the series. I do? And do I think the
Celtics can stumble before getting to the NBA Finals? I do,
But you still gotta play the games. Those to me
are the two most interesting series right now. Coming up,
we'll take you out to Denver. We'll talk about the
Nuggets tonight or what happens Saturday night and going forward.

(09:19):
And we'll talk about Sean Payton in their new quarterback
room in the Denver Broncos. Some very interesting names. I'm
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six am Eastern. It's Walcome in a gentlemen. One of
my favorites comes to us from Denver, one oh four
point three. The fan has his finger on the pulse
very much of all things, Denver, say hello to Chad
address Chad, always appreciate you coming on. How you doing tonight?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I'm well. Bernie Day finished that hockey game out there
in the desert just in time so it could pop
on with you.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
So you're keeping your bad eye on that one as well.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Huh, well, if I'm gonna be up, yeah, I mean
that's that's good as a guess. I mean, what's better
than the playoff hockey?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I guess you could say it was a must win
for Dallas. So we'll see what happens from here. But
I digress before I get to the draft, because I've
got a lot of stuff there. So did it surprise
you that the Lakers finally prevailed? The question I have
for you is the amount of points the Nuggets are

(11:29):
giving up in the paint. What does Mike Malone do
to correct that on Monday? And how surprised would you
be if the Lakers were able to force a game six?

Speaker 5 (11:39):
I'd be pretty surprised. I think the Nuggets are are
primed to get the ship righted at home, and the
Lakers have to get on a plane, come back play
here at elevation again. Look the longer I know it
sounds strange to say this after what happened today in
a Game four, but the longer you go in a

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series against the Nuggets, the harder it is for you
to win, because they're going to wear you down and
wear you out just by the sheer way they make
you play. Aren't all five positions on the court. They
exhaust you. Yokic runs you to death and pounds you
to death when you're a big guy. So it's harder
the longer a series goes on to play against this team.

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So for them to come back and do it again
at elevation just you know, with one day of rest
in between, that's asking a lot of Lebron, James Anthony Davis,
and it's asking a lot of the other guys. You know,
with Austin Reeves Indiania or Russell playing well in a
game tonight, could do that again on the road. You know,
I don't expect them to force a game six, but hey,

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you know, nobody had ever come back from three to
one before Lebron did that. You know, nobody had ever
led Brandive like Cleveland before the championship. Lebron did that,
so I mean, yeah, I guess anything could happen. I
would just be stunned if it did.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
No, I'm an agreement, and I also agree with your assertion.
The longer you get in the ring with Denver, they
wear you out. Case a case in point, the Nuggets
led all four games by double digits in half. The
first three the Nuggets closed them out. The Lakers managed
to close out the Nuggets partly because there was I
think there's a big drop off from Aaron Gordon. He

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had twenty nine on Thursday, only seven to night. But
I agree with your assertion. Do you expect Denver to
come out like a house of fire or lolly gate
around and be behind at halftime.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
I think they will come out with much more focus
and much more resolve on the defensive end of the
four in the first half. What I can't promise is
that you're going to get to Jamal Murray that you
got in the postseason last year, and that I think
right now for the Nuggets has to be the biggest concern,
not so much in closing out the Lakers. I think

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they're going to do that. I think the franchise is
pretty comfortable. They've won eleven out of twelve games against
the Los Angeles Lakers. I don't think that they're too concerned. Again,
barring an injury that takes somebody out of the series,
about closing this one out. The concern comes when you
have to play Minnesota next That's that's going to be
the bigger concern. But no, it wouldn't shock me at

(14:17):
all if the Nuggets just absolutely up the endy and
drop the hammer and the Lakers, We're actually going to
accept that fate on Monday, to be honest with you, Barning. Look,
they won and all the credit tonight. Absolutely, But part
of me is looking at these postgame interviews with Lebron
and D'Angelo Russell wearing those bucket hats and making me

(14:39):
think that they thought they were already going fishing.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, I'm in agreement with all that. I think Denver
flexes on on Monday night, and I think the Minnesota
series will be interesting. All right, let's talk about your
Denver Broncos, because I think there are a lot of
storylines Chad heading into the season, not the least of
which Denver's gone eight secutive years without making the playoffs.
And Sean Payton is regarded as a quarterback whisperer, and

(15:07):
that's where we start. You've got a really interesting quarterback room.
And before I even get to your draft choice, how
surprised were you that the Braco was made a trade
to acquire Zach Wilson.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Not too surprised. I mean, it really doesn't cost them anything.
They swapped picks in what the sixth round, so they
moved back, and then they're only paying like half of
the salary. So it's basically a free spin on a
guy that, honestly, the draft profile three years ago, he
had a higher grade than bo Nicks did. He did
had a higher grade than then a lot of these

(15:41):
other other quarterbacks that you've seen. You know, guys get
second chances. Damn darnold. You know he went number two overall.
He's got talent. But I think the other thing that
plays into this, and it plays into the draft pick
of bo Nicks as well, is for for lack of
a better term, and as kindly as possible, I think

(16:05):
there's an extreme element of we'll call it cubris with
Sean Payton, who was ready to prove that, yeah, he
may have failed before, but Look, he was playing for Hackett,
the guy I called that said did the worst coaching
job in the history of the NFL. Look what I'm
going to be able to do with him? And I
think it was more of an insurance policy trading for

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Zach Wilson in case something went wrong and awry and
they didn't get their guy on Thursday night. But now
that they did draft Bownecks, I fully expect him to
be the guy. The way they are approaching this.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
In the way they're talking about talking with Chad Andrews
one O four point three to Fan in Denver, let's
talk about bow Knicks because I am told Sean Payton
never really got over not being able to get to
Patrick Mahomes several years ago. He had a man crush
on him. But I heard he asked the same kind
of man crush on bow Knicks and the due diligence

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that Denver did, and Bnick seem to pass all the tests,
and so Sean Payton was held bent on getting him.
Is it true that he really had his eyes on
Bullnecks more than any of the other prospects.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Well, we're never going to find out, because that was
the only choice they had left. Oh, I think it
would have been interesting if you would have had a
choice with JJ McCarthy Michael Pennix on the board, or
if you just wouldn't have went on a five game
winning streak and you would have been in position for
Jayden Daniels or Drake May. You know, we're never going
to know the truth in that regard. They're going to

(17:34):
stick with that company line that it was Nicks all along.
I think what is absolutely true in this situation the
experience Sean Payton had with Russell Wilson pushed him to
the brink so far to an extreme that it may
not necessarily be about the talent and who has the

(17:54):
most potential upside as an individual player, but more about
who was a guy that I most want to work
with and is going to do it the way I
want it done. And again that goes back to that
word Hubris with Sean Payton is this is a guy
who's going to do what I tell him to do,
and he's not going to hang out of the ball
and take sacks and lose yardage and take us out

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of drives. He's going to do it the way I
want it done. And I'm good enough to make us
a winning team if he does that.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Chad. The reason I made you bring up a very
valid point. We're never gonna know because these options were
limited by the time they got to, you know, pick
number twelve. But I'm told also that Sean Payton really
like Bownicks because he believes he's a fit for his offense.

(18:44):
Can you speak to that.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, I think it's you know, a little bit of
what I just alluded to is he wants somebody who
is going to run the plays that are called and
get the ball out of his hands. I think Russell
Wilson drove him so insane by trying to extend plays
and resulting in sacks and turnovers at times that Sean

(19:07):
Payton couldn't take it anymore. I think it literally made
him crazy, so much so to eat the largest dead
cap in NFL history with eighty five billion dollars over
two years. And he wants someone who is going to
run the play that he calls and get the ball
out of his hands, and bon Knicks fits that. Bill.
He picked up on all of the whiteboard stuff, all

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the playbook stuff that they gave him, and when they
sat down and started talking football, bon Nicks was able
to answer the question. Sean Payton asked the way he
wanted to hear those answers, and I think again it
comes back to not necessarily is he the most talented player. No,
but he's the guy who's going to do it the
way I want done.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
So Chad, We've got Zach Wilson, We've got Bonnicks, and then,
of course the odd man out, although he started the
final two games of the season last year after Russell
Wilson was benched, jaredstead of fast forward to opening day,
who do you expect to be under center?

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Hey, it'll be Bo Nicks, Okay, And yeah, the way
they're talking about him, the way they drafted Troy Franklin,
one of his you know, his best receiver at Oregon,
the way they are positioning this, and the way the
fan base is starving for an answer at quarterback since
Peyton Manning retired, it will be Bo Nicks. Personally, if
you ask me, I think Zack Wilson is the more

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talented player, and if Sean Payton is the quarterback whisperer
and could get the most out of both guys, I
think you have a higher ceiling with Zach Wilson, But
I think that was more of an insurance policy if
they weren't able to get a guy in the draft.
It is going to be mixed, I think from the
get go, and very worst case scenario, we're talking week six,
week eight, whatever it is, he will start the bulk

(20:52):
of the games for the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
First of all, I must plead guilty. I'm glad you're
on your objectivity with Zach Wilson because I defended him
coming into the draft. I saw video of his pro
day and he has a lot of tremendous physical tools.
Now he might have a ten set head and maybe
they can work on that in Denver. But I'm in
agreement with you. He's very physically gifted, more than people realize.

(21:16):
But you bring up a great point about Troy Franklin.
They get him in the fourth round, a tremendous quality
value pick four four forty, one of Bowenickx's top receivers
in Oregon. I understand he had a private workout for
the Broncos lit it up as well. Do you expect
bow Knicks and Troy Franklin to be an item right
out of the gate. It's part of Shawn's offense.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
I think it's some buddy that he'll have a level
of comfort with, and I don't know that you can
say that about anybody else on this roster. Tim Patrick
is their most talented pass catcher. He hasn't played in
two years. Portland Sutton had their best season in the
red zone with Russell Wilson, but he's not happy being
here right now. So it's very much and up in
the air wide receiver room. They drafted another get from

(22:00):
Utah a little bit later on, and they've got a
couple other guys that have shown flashes and Brandon Johnson
Jalen Virgil, but the team isn't as high necessarily on
those guys as the fan base is. So you know,
with Jerry Judy being traded with Courtland Sutton potentially not
being here, if he wants to really throw a stink
by the time at the end of the summer rolls around,
then yeah, you're gonna have to put somebody out there.

(22:23):
Because Marvin Mims, as flashy and as talented as he
is as a returner, he runs two routes right now
as a receiver, so he's got a lot of rooms
still to grow. And to get somebody in there that
Nix is comfortable with. Yeah, you are going to see
Franklin on the field right away.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Last thing for me, Sean, as we wind it down,
I'm sorry I called you, Sean. I'm thinking I got
Sean Payton on the brain. We're talking with Chad Andrews
one or four point and three, the fan of Denver.
You draft a stud running back out a Notre Dame
under the radar. This is a big, tough, physical kid
who I think can spelled Javonte Williams. You know, Sean
Payton has always said young quarterback's best friend is a

(22:59):
good running game. Do you expect audriyk Estein to hit
the field sooner rather than later in the backfield for
Sean Payton.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
I think he will. Somebody is going to be the
augment out. It's probably going to be samaj p Ryan
unless they don't see you, unless they're missing something. With
Javonte Williams this year, what I think is odd about
the selection is he is a very similar back to
what Javonte Williams is right now. And I don't know

(23:28):
that you need two of those guys. It may be
nice to have, you know, a constant battering ram when
you're playing a rookie quarterback to have that to lean on,
but I don't know if that's going to be sustainable
for more than one season, having two of the same
model of running back chat.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I really appreciate your time because I really, I truly
believe the Denver Broncos will very much be in the
national spotlight more than people realize this year. Sean Payton
is not a patient man in the Denver Bronco fan
base is losing patients, so God forbid, come out of
the gates slow. That might be quite so proper.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah, I don't expect them to be contending for a
playoff spot, but let's make no mistake about it. Sean
Payton doesn't want to take a kind of throwaway here, right.
He is operating under the mindset that they are going
to win and try to compete to get in the playoffs,
regardless of playing a rookie quarterback or not. And it's

(24:24):
part of the reason why bo Nicks was drafted now
because Peyton doesn't believe he's going to be picking in
the top twelve anymore. Again, back to the hubrits idea,
I am too good to be picking this low, so
I have to get a quarterback now.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Spot on, my friend. I appreciate it as always, Chad,
stay well, enjoy the rest of your weekend, all right,
have a good night, Bernie. Thanks that as Chad Andrews
one oh four point three to fan of Denver and
as you can see, very much has his finger on
the pulse. Will see if the Nuggets make it back
to the finals and probably get him back and certainly
when the NFL season rolls around coming up. The one

(25:02):
highlight headline of the draft in the first round that
is absolutely undeniable. We have to revisit it again. It
clearly leaves you scratching your head wondering what were these
knuckleheads thinking. But first let's go to our guy, the chef,
Kevin Wyer with the latest.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yeah, Bernie, just down the street from you, it's gone final.
The Dallas Stars Vegas Golden Knights went to overtime in
with about four minutes ago. A little under four minutes
ago in that first overtime period, Whya Johnson getting the
game winning goal, giving the Dallas Stars a three to
two victory and their first win in this best of
seventh series. It is Vegas still head though two games

(25:41):
to one. Now Elsewhere in the Stanley Cup playoffs, the
Bruins and Maple Leafs, Boston going ahead three games to
one in a three to one win in a Toronto
Panthers and Lightning, it's Tampa Bay staying alive in this series.
They beat the Panthers six to three, so it's three
to one in favor of Floor This best of seven

(26:01):
first round series double overtime on Long Island as the
Isles and Hurricanes ballowed it out and it is New
York getting the game winning goal three to two. They
win it, and it is Carolina had in this series
three games to one. Elsewhere in the NBA, the Lakers
get their first win of their best of seven series

(26:22):
with the Denver Nuggets, snapping a seven game playoff losing
streak to Denver, winning it one nineteen to two to
one O eight Anthony Davis twenty five points and twenty
three rebounds. The thunder gonna win in New Orleans one
oh six eighty five, Oklahoma City ahead three games to nine,
Boston up two to one after an easy one oh

(26:42):
four eighty four win at Miami and the Orlando Magic
dominating Cleveland one twelve eighty nine, tying that first round
series at two games apiece. Dutfold for tomorrow's Milwaukee, Indiana game,
Giannis he hasn't been able to play and it looks
like he's gonna have a hard time. I'm making it
on the court tomorrow as he's still dealing with a

(27:02):
strained calf. Damian Lillard also questionable or also doubtful as
he's dealing with a strained achilles. The Clippers Kawhi Leonard
listed he has listed as questionable for their game against
the Dallas Mavericks. He's dealing with knee inflammation. The NFL
Draft ended with rams four through seven on Saturday. In
the fifth round, South Carolina quarterback Spencer Rattler going to

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the Saints, so he was the first quarterback taken since
Bo Nicks in the first round, the twelfth overall pick,
so that's the largest gap between quarterbacks taken in NFL history.
Fourler State quarterback Jordan Travis going to the Jets. Washington's
signing undrafted quarterback Sam Hartman from Notre Dame, the Colts
getting undrafted to quarterback Keidan Slovas from BYU. Major League

(27:50):
Baseball Angels have now lost seven of their last eight,
and Boston as a fall to the Twins. Boston won
seventeen tozzing against the Cubs, games won fifteen to three
at Milwaukee. Houston wins its game in Mexico City twelve
four over Colorado. The Dodgers win their sixth straight game,
four to two against the Toronto Blue Jays as Mookie

(28:11):
Betts three more hits. He's batting three ninety one on
the season. Cleveland one in eleven ings at Atlanta four two,
White Sox winning ten innings, versus Tampa Bay eight to seven,
Pittsburgh winter and ten innings, and San Francisco four to three.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Back to you, Burney, all right, Jeff so Thursday night
rolls around about five to fifteen Pacific time, the ball
gets rolling, Roger Goodell walks out on stage the gratuitous booze.
And while I acknowledge that Roger Goodell has done amazing
things with the NFL in terms of building an international

(28:46):
brand and bringing revenues not seen the likes have seen
that I can ever remember in almost any sports league,
schoals to build them to a twenty five billion dollar
to and I think he's gonna do it. He walks
out on stage, and you know he's always got that
look on his face like he just smeled a bad fart.
But that's Roger Goodell. But for about an hour, things

(29:10):
were clicking along, kind of boring, no mega trades, no
real shocks in the top five, and then ish got real.
There was not one, but two picks that I will
think about certainly when next season rolls around, and maybe
for years. Obviously, the Falcons, who just signed their new
franchise quarterback Kirk Cousins to a massive contract, had to

(29:34):
be sitting there in amazement, and he was. I guess
he was tipped off it was gonna happen when the
Falcons drafted a quarterback, not just a quarterback, but Michael
Pennix Junior at eight. Overall, that's the stunner on many
levels for me. There's no other way to say it,
because it raises questions, is the team have such little

(29:55):
faith in Kirk cousins achilles tendon. Remember he had surgery
in the November, but no one seemed too worried about
it and worried about his health when Atlanta guaranteed him
one hundred million dollars just minutes after free agency opened up,
got ninety million up front. So what is Penix an
insurance policy? Do you draft an insurance policy quarterback? And

(30:18):
the top ten win? If he were to get on
the field in twenty twenty four, it would only mean
bad news for the Falcons. Means either're stinking it up
between the hash marks or Cousins got hurt again. And
by the way, the Falcons explanation did make a whole
hell of a lot of sense. Dana Rassini reported that

(30:38):
Cousins was very dismayed by the surprise. Look, it's not
about job security. He's got that he's gonna start. I'm
convinced you'll start, and he's got an extra one hundred
million guaranteed. But why do you waste a high draft
pick on a guy who won't help the team this season? Now,
I covered the draft for the Lions and official capacity

(31:01):
between ninety eight and oh eight, and I saw many
Matt Millan blunders. But when you have a high first
round draft pick in the first ten picks, you want
that guy to know he's gonna get on the field
this year and contribute this year and pencil him in
for five to seven years, and most of those being

(31:22):
the Pro Bowl years. And I remember when Matt Millan
elected to pick Calvin Johnson in two thousand and seven.
Very early in the draft, people asked me what I
thought of it. I said, well, I like the player,
but I don't like the pick. The Lions needed help everywhere.
You don't build your team on the periphery. Obviously, the

(31:43):
Lions number won a playoff game with Calvin. You know,
we put up some cartoon numbers apparently, by the way,
for what it's worth, the Falcons told Cousins they would
draft the quarterback in later rounds, and then they drafted
him eight overall. Michael Penicks. This is not about Michael Penix.
No b with Michael Pennix, although there are some questions.
He turns twenty four May eighth, not forty four twenty four.

(32:06):
He did separate his left throwing shoulder in twenty twenty one.
Three years prior to that, he tore his right acl
and in twenty twenty he located or checked that he
dislocated his right non throwing shoulder in twenty nineteen, So
he separated his left throwing shoulder, his right non throwing shoulder,

(32:27):
and tours ACL in twenty eighteen. Now, from a pure
skill standpoint, he's one of the best quarterbacks on the board,
and he does have arms drinking all the intent. I
have everything you'd want. But if you're not going to
get him on the field this year, what are you doing?
What the hell are you doing? I get it. Kirk
Cousins is thirty five and he's coming off a torn
Achilles ten. But Atlanta has him signed through twenty twenty seven,

(32:51):
and from everything I've heard, Atlanta's loading up to make
a playoff run this year in a very winnable division.
Atlanta will also have a fifty year option for Michael
Penicks in twenty twenty eight, who can be around a
while most likely, and he will. You know. The bottom
line is, I guess you could say his contract overlaps

(33:13):
the amount of years that Cousins will be there. Given
the right still half for Mike Pennis. The only thing
I can rationalize is what if Kirk Cousins, God forbid,
got hurt this season? But I call the NFL the
now Football League, now forget later football League, the not
for long league, which everybody else calls it. See, your

(33:34):
first round pick should contribute year one. Pennsylvani as a
five year starter should be a pro bowler, So I
think this pick is odd. I don't see how the
Falcons benefit any time soon. Less panics he's the field
this season, and if that would have happened, that means
something bad has happened to the Falcons. But that ain't all.
That ain't all because that allowed Denver to get bow Nicks.

(33:58):
But here's the deal. While the Raiders, with all their respect,
in the first round, and unless Tom Telesco basically said
their new GM, We're just gonna grab the best player
available regardless, they get Brock Barers out of Georgia, who's
a big time stud. But remember he's a tight end.
But remember the Raiders used a second round pick on

(34:18):
tight end Michael Mayer last year before his injury put
him on injurieserve. Missed the final three games, so he's
not able to run through the halls of his high school.
See what I did there. But if you're the Raiders,
you have other question marks. How about offensive tackle, how
about cornerback? They were much bigger needs at every stud

(34:40):
cornerback was still on the board when the Raiders elected
to take Brock Bowers. You have to wonder why another
tight end and you got multiple mouse to feed beyond
DeVante Adams and another tight end and a couple of
other good wide receivers. So I think it's those are
two confine picks if he asked me, But don't ask me,

(35:04):
but I figured I would throw my two cents in anyway.
Coming up, I gotta say if something happened and I
talked about this last night, I might delve into it
later about this anonymous scout who had the comments about
KAYLEB Williams and essentially basically attacked him as a person
not a player, questioned his NFL readiness and some things

(35:25):
about his personality that bothered him. But I gotta tell you,
Kyle Williams said something today that made me wonder, is
what is he auditioning to be? Mickey the duntz. He
should have done it and it could come back to
haunt um. I'll explain. Coming up, I'm Bernie Frattle, who
comes to your life from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,
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(35:46):
listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Don're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
I were back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Come to your life from the tarret dot com studios
here in a Las Vegas. You know, be careful what
you say. And you heard me share with you some
comments from an anonymous scout talking about Caleb Williams. And again,

(36:14):
it's against a lot of practiceychology with a license. So
Caleb Williams deserves his day in Courtlet's see what he does,
what he gets on the field, Okay, in Chicago. But
he did something that he said something Saturday that I thought,
you know, people thought was cute. But for me, I'm
going to file it under the category of what are
you trying to be? Mickey the duntz. Let's go back.

(36:38):
Let's have a little history lesson here. Do you remember
Josh Rosmen coming out of UCLA. It was literally six
years ago to the day he was drafted. He's the
fourth quarterback drafted and he was pissed off, said nine
teams made a mistake. Okay, Edward interviewed him and he says,
I'm more motivated than ever that I've been in my

(36:59):
entire life. You know, that was the year Baker Mayfield
went number one. Sam Donald went number three, Josh Allen
went number seven, and Josh Rosen fell behind all of
them on a draft day. And you know he had
some supporters. I was not a Josh Rosen fan. You

(37:20):
win a lot of games at UCLA and he proceeds
to run his mouth. Oh, by the way, Baker Mayfield,
Sam Donald, and Josh Allen are all gainfully employed in
the National Football League, whereas is Josh Allen. So maybe
he shouldn't have gone on and said I'm the best
quarterback in the draft. A lot of guys are flash here,
but I think I'm the most efficient. I'm monotonously consistent

(37:42):
in this draft. Aaron Rodgers assen flair. But if you
watched Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees, there's nothing explosive.
It just quarterbacking. Blah blah blah. Rosen sufficed it to
say was very upset about the position he was taking
in the draft and the fact that he was passed
up for other quarterbacks and he was actually at the
time entering a great situation in Arizona. Okay, Josh Rosen

(38:07):
didn't cut the mustard, period, but I guarantee you lots
of people remember those remarks. I certainly do. Now, look,
Cayleb Williams is just getting out of the blocks and
he's got all the talent in the world. But show
us with your arm, show us in your labe, show

(38:28):
us on third down, the money down, show us in
the fourth quarter, show us in the red zone. Okay, Now,
why am I setting this up to bring you the
point I'm trying to make. The Bears drafted a punter
out of Iowa. Guy by the name of Tory Taylor,
big time punter, legit weapon, Okay, won the reg Guy

(38:52):
Award for the best punter in college football, set a
single season record for punting yards. He had broken a
record that stood for eighty five years. And I get it.
Iowa really did punt a lot last season. So when
you punt for forty five hundred yards and your average
is forty nine yards of punt and your career average
is about almost forty seven yards of punt, which, by

(39:13):
the way, we're also INCA records, you're going to get attention.
And by the way, a punter is very important in
the National Football League. And the Bears, who I thought
had an excellent draft, added to that draft by getting
a punter out of Iowa because Iowa's offense couldn't score
the women's prison with a fifth full of fifties. And

(39:33):
Tory Taylor was a hell of a weapon. So what
does Josh And by the way, it's rare to see
a kicker a punter go as high as Tory Taylor
was drafted fourth round. Doesn't really happen a whole lot.
So what does Caleb Williams proceed to do? He sends
him a text, He says, hey, you're not going to

(39:56):
punt too much here. Well, even if Caleb Williams and
his proclamation, which is oozing with bravado and hubers and confidence,
is right, you still want to have a good punter.
The pairs paid up to get a punter and they
know what they're getting. So think before you talk, Caleb,

(40:17):
don't do this man, Don't be Mickey the Dunce. Talk
with your actions while you're on the field. Remember before
Justin Fields got there, you had a guy he was
twenty five and thirteen, got to the playoffs two or
three years, would have won a playoff game had there
not been the double doing field goal, and they ran
him out of town. He completed sixty to seven percent
of his passes. It was Mitch Trubisky. Careful, Caleb, careful

(40:38):
what you wish for? Coming up? Mark Medina will talk
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The NBA playoffs are raging, sometimes competitive, sometimes not so much.
But anyway, there's plenty of storylines. And that's why when
you get to Saturday night at midnight the Bernie Frattle Show,
three words, it's that time. We bring in Mark Medina,
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(41:31):
Frattle Show. Mark Medina is in fact our Fox Sports
Radio NBA gourgu You hear them all around the network. Mark,
how are you on this fine Cyrillian Blue Sky Sunday morning.

Speaker 7 (41:42):
Well, you know, the drama is good. When I'm talking
to you, we get to talk about the NBA. I
am pleasantly surprised. Well, I don't have a rooting interest
in it, but I am surprised that I did see
some basketball that resulted in a Lakers win. That's been
a first for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Well, let's give credit credits due. I asked you last Saturday,
would the Lakers still be alive when your hit came
on tonight? And they, in fact are. And what's interesting,
Mark is the Lakers have actually held the lead for
one hundred and thirty six minutes in this year. And
you know, if it's in buts for candy and nuts,
you know the drill. This series could be too too.

(42:21):
Having said that, even in spite of the fact the
Lakers seventy two points in the paint tonight after seventy
on Thursday, I think they had the Denver money and
they're headed for a bus off. But you might have
a different thought your thoughts.

Speaker 7 (42:35):
Yeah, I don't think that the Lakers are going to
make NBA history here, but I did think even with
how bad Game three was if I had to predict,
I thought that they would get a Game four win
because Lebron, James, Anthony Davis, they have a lot of
pride and while the rest of the supporting cast you
never quite know what you're going to get with them,
I thought that they would at least give a fighter chance,

(42:58):
I think with the Denver Nuggets, so it's ironic with
them as well. They are a well oiled machine with
their talent, depth, continuity, and they have a lot of resiliency.
We've seen that. You know, they've been showing the championship
complacency with having to dig out double digit we heed,
so I thought that they would relax a little bit,
and that's exactly what happens. So it was the perfect

(43:19):
combination of Lebron and AD showing up, finally getting some
help from Daniel Russell, Austin Reeves, and then the Nuggets
just kind of going through the motions. So I don't
think that will continue in Game five, but at least
it allows the Lakers to say face and I got
swept for the second consecutive season.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Spot on about A d and Lebron. They combined for
fifty five points Saturday. It feels like it lets some
steam off the kettle, because if the Laker's been swept
for the second year in a row, it would have
been an incredibly dismal offseason. I believe one takeaway from
the game, and I had to get your thoughts. Lebron
was seen visibly yelling about halfway through the fourth quarter
because Darvinham didn't challenge it. Hall even dropped an F bomb.

(44:02):
I think, what's the situation there? I believe I'm told
Darvin Ham's coming back, But what are your thoughts and
why are people so down on him?

Speaker 7 (44:10):
Well, I'll walk you through this. Why Lebron James is
upset about Darvin Ham not challenging the call was because
he should have challenged it. It was clearly out of bounds.
And then there was some confusion and all of a sudden,
Jamal Murray had an open look at the rim. I
look at that as just genuine frustration and Lebron trying
to show up Darvin Ham or make a message. Lebron

(44:32):
is a calculated person, but he's also a competitive person,
so I tilt toward it being more about the ladder
than the former. Why people are down on Darvinham? I
think that you know, the surface level answer that question
is that in professional sports, especially with the Lakers, the
coach is always going to be the fall guy. But

(44:54):
I think in fairness to this, there's a feeling that
he's been not making the best in game adjustments, not
making the best of his rotations. And while I would
argue that the Lakers struggles mostly have to do with
the fact that the role players that they have are
good role players, but that are inconsistent and that's not

(45:16):
good enough in today's MBA, Darvin surely could have done
a better job this season with making the most out
of his roster and not taken almost until half the
season to finally find the right starting lineup. But again,
you know, it's more roster construction anything else. And I
think what's ironic about the roster construction is I always

(45:39):
was of the belief from last summer that this was
the better lane to take than to get Kyrie ovin
because of his unpredictable nature, just the fact that you
don't have a lot of depth in your leaving the
roster vulnerable in case lebron Nad aren't healthy. But clearly
the continuity card hasn't worked because these role players just

(46:00):
aren't consistent.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Players talk about Mark Medina, our Fox Sports Radio NBA
guru talk a lot about heat culture. Let's talk about
Celtic culture. Therefore, have it at home in their last
eleven home games, but they did re establish their dominance
in Miami. You wouldn't expect Miami would make twenty three
three pointers again, But who are the real Boston Celtics.

(46:24):
They physically bullied Miami Saturday night. But it's hard for
me to put my finger on what this team really is.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
Well, I think it is really talent. There's people around
the league that also point to that stat that you
mentioned that they have a great home court record this
regular season, but where you're looking at their playoffs, not
so much. But I think that when you're looking at
this season, I don't think that they're going to lose
to Miami for a second consecutive season. The heat culture

(46:56):
is real, but they can only do so much with this.
But this is a potential warning sign for down the
line that it's probably unrealistic to expect any team to
just run the table and go undefeated and sweep every opponent.
But if they're having to put so much work into
each round, but it's time they get to the NBA Finals,

(47:18):
maybe the War of attrition catches up to them. And
if they're facing Denver or Minnesota or Oklahoma City, those
are all teams that really could challenge Boston. So I
think they're much improved in last season. The chrisos Worzingis
pickup has been great. Their offense has been a lot
more efficient this season. I think, as we saw in

(47:39):
Game three, they can have quick bounce back performances. But yeah,
they sometimes play with their food a little bit too
much and showed the signs of championship complacency when they
haven't won a championship yet. So they are an interesting
riddle to say the least.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Boston was able to take Taylor Hero out of his rhythms.
But I watched this series. One of my great laments
are all the injuries to keys key players. What would
this series look like if Miami had a healthy Jimmy.

Speaker 7 (48:08):
Butler, Well, it would be dramatically different because Jimmy Butler
is a much different player in the playoffs, like he
really raises his game to another level. Now does that
mean I think that they would have beaten Boston in
the seven game series? In the first round. No, but
they would have really had to account for him. And

(48:28):
I think that the larger part is that that war
of attrition and I talked about that they would escape
the first round in you know, six games, but really
feel worn out in the second round, and that has
kind of a compounding effect if this team gets the final.
So I think that's where of the difference.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
With the Moon another key player missing. Without Zion Williamson,
obviously you lean heavily on CJ. McCollum and Brandon Ingram
in Oklahoma City not only looking very impressive, looking sure
beyond their years. Could they make several noise in this tournament?

Speaker 7 (49:04):
Yeah, they very well could. I mean, they got the
number one seed for a reason. It wasn't by accident.
And you know, my sense being around them is that
they are young, but they are mature. They have you know,
sharp basketball minds, They play the right way. They have
a lot of depth. Each player like fills a positional need,

(49:25):
you know, shake out, go Tos. Alexander's that MVP candidate
who can do everything on the floor, how he scores
at the rim, three point range, mid range, great leader,
lou Dort, really all great defender one through five. He's
really physical, fight through screens.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Now.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
I was talking with him earlier this season. He literally
tracks notes and close of every defensive assignment that he
has on his iPad, and when the game's over, he
opens up the iPad and updates it. Chet holmern Holah
is why that loves basketball. And even though he's thinned that,

(50:04):
he's shown that that's kind of overstated because there has
a lot of skills, so they have the right ingredients
to make a run. I just think that, you know,
once they face Denver, that whole you know, continuity, depth,
talent will overcome it. But if the Thunder get there,
I'm not going to be surprised by any means. And
if they do fall short to Denver, it's not because
they're overwhelmed. It's just that Denver, you know, they're a

(50:26):
much better team. But yeah, the Thunder could very well
be in that mix.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
The Clippers continue to be their own worst enemy. Paul George,
no type of shooting rhythm you over. The other night
we saw what happened with Russell Westbrook, Kawhi Leonard is hurt.
Is that serious for all intents and purposes, over.

Speaker 7 (50:48):
It's not over. But like with everything with the Clippers,
there are always day to day you know, Kawhi, Leonards
and Listen is questionable. The playing game four, I think
that because of the playoffs, you know he's going to
push to play, but he was very limited in game
three and in game two, and I think in game
two there was a comfortable understanding of well, this is

(51:09):
the integration process and even though it comes with the now,
you need to have him back so that he can
help you win games. After that and Game three, you know,
he was so limited with minutes and ineffectiveness and the
fact that no one else took up the man was disappointing.
Paul George got in foult trouble. You know, some of
them you could debate, but regardless, he wasn't available. Russell

(51:31):
Westbrook's allowing the emotion to get the best of them,
get the ejected that's on called for. James Harden has
forty four minutes and while it is the playoffs, that's
probably too much for even him to assume. So, yeah,
the series isn't over. They can very well tie this
tomorrow on Sunday, but you know they're very vulnerable right now,

(51:52):
and it's just ironic because this has been their whole
story every single season. There's always something injury related that
comes up that the rails their potential.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Well, it's always something in The Clips are on the
verge of losing their second consecutive first round series. Paul
George seven points in thirty minutes, with all due respect,
that's just not going to cut it. You've you've really
got to make your bones in the playoffs and more injuries.
It's really a bummer. Yiannis. Obviously we know what happened there,
and now it looks like Damian Lillard is out Sunday.

(52:24):
Things got to be looking bleak for Milwaukee.

Speaker 7 (52:26):
Yeah, I mean very blique because they're list this doubtful
and you know, when you're looking at the whole injury
report lingo with the NBA, doubtful is considered like the
worst grade you can have other than completely ruling them out.
And so with that, the audience should think that they
probably won't play Game four, and it's it's I don't

(52:50):
want to say it's fitting because these are injuries, but
when you're looking at the Bucks, they've been dealing with
so much inconsistency and so many overlapping, you know, injuries
with their core players, is that it's not surprising. And
you had the fact that Indiana they're a team that
can really challenge them because of their fast paced offense
led by Tyrese Halliburton. It seems like they're right on

(53:11):
the walls there that Indiana is gonna win.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Do you expect Kevin Durant to seek an exit from Phoenix?
I really thought matt Ishbia was putting something together and
now you look at them on paper and yeah, you know,
it's just a disaster in Phoenix with what's happening there.
Do you expect Kevin Durant to be there next year?

Speaker 7 (53:33):
I guess you never say never, because it's Kevin Durant,
and you know, he's he's become a mercenary, and you know,
I think for the most part, I understand why.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (53:45):
Mean, he hasn't had h he hasn't had much roots
because of the way his career has played. I think
that he stays only because even though the Suns clearly
need to make some change. Is I don't know how
they dig themselves out of this, because yes, they already

(54:05):
had a coaching change, they already decided to go all
in with their big three, and I know that, you know,
shuffling role players doesn't fundamentally change these things. But it's
really hard for me to think that Kevin does this. Yeah,
it's just confounding. I'm not giving you a clear answer
just because it's captured, just how I'm trying to come

(54:27):
to groups with this. Clearly, matteshb is going to need
to make a change, but you know how he does
it or where he does it, that's hard for me
to think of because they've dug themselves such a big
of a hole here.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Well, you're not kidding. Let's just take Bradley Beal. They
all them one hundred million in the next two years
have a dead cat value of fifty million. I mean,
if matt Ishbi you could turn back the clock, do
you think you would have signed that deal with Bradley Beal?

Speaker 7 (54:53):
Well, I guess you. You know, if you always know
what your choose adventure outcome is going to be, you
don't choose that adventure, right. But I think that in
real time they're thinking, well, Chris Paul, he's at the
tail end of his career, and if you're you know,
I guess relatively wane durability. You know, Bradley Beale could

(55:13):
be considered a relatively better option. You know. The other
the other thing is deal and DeAndre Ayton, Like they
didn't necessarily have to do that. And I think that
when you're looking at Frank Vogel, there is a thought that, Okay,
with a new head coach and someone who has defensive chops,
that you know, he can help DeAndre raise his game
to another level. But they just felt as inevitable that

(55:37):
Aiden's going to get continue to get frustrated with not
having a larger offensive role. And even though Juice of
Jerks is not a great defender, he's great everywhere else
as far as you know, being a great passer, screen setter,
floor spacer. And because the offense is going to revolve
around three other stars, uh, he can help be the

(55:57):
guy that helps oil that machine. So yeah, I mean
they made a lot of risk that could have worked,
but it didn't and now we see how they clean
up that mess. I'm glad I'm not you know, I
guess Matt Ashbie can cause a lot of envy because
he's a billionaire, But I'm glad I'm not him because
he has a pretty tough job on the sand well.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
And I'm not here to bash him hindsight, he's always
twenty twenty and historically Phoenix didn't spend money. Matt Ishbi
had changed all that. But the Sunset four players making
over thirty million this season, Bradley Beal making fifty million. Look,
he's a good player, but I don't know if you
pay him if he's one of the game's greatest, and
I think that's that's a problem. So that's just my

(56:38):
two cents. Last thing for me, who's the biggest threat
in the west of Denver? Is it Minnesota, OKC or Dallas?

Speaker 7 (56:48):
I'd say it slipped your coin between OKAC and Minnesota.
I mean with Minnesota, we've seen Anthony Edwards just blossom
before our eyes. Karl Antone Towns has been great as
a one A or one player. You know, Rudy Gobert's
becoming defensive player of the year candidly he was in Utah,
and Mike Conley is showing that he's still is a

(57:08):
really good point guard. They have a complete team. I mean,
they have some other good role players like Jane McDaniel.
So yeah, from top to bottom, they're deep. I do
give still the edge to Denver because of you know,
their continuity from the championship last season. But with Dallas,
while they certainly haven't improved, you know, with Luka Doncic

(57:30):
and Kyrie irving their chemistry, they're both playing like defense
and they also have a better supporting cast, most notably
with PJ. Washington with now not only being a good defender,
being a good outside shooter, but now being Luka Doncic's
bodyguard and enforcer. I don't think they're at the same
level as Minnesota and Oklahoma City. And even though we're

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talking about the Clippers and their issues, I could still
see the Clippers winning that series because you know, all
At makes his Kawhi a circuit in a rhythm, and
then you know he's off to the races her.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
With all the respect, he's playing on one leg. I've
watched him too many times I saw it would say Data,
he's not the same guy. Something. I think it's a
meniscus or something, but something's wrong with that knee. He's
just not the same guy.

Speaker 7 (58:16):
Well, you know, look, you never can rule anything out
with Kawhi and his injuries, and you obviously can't run
anything out because the Clippers operate like they're the CIA
when it comes information. But for what it's worth, they
say that his knee is structurally fine. You know, it's
unlike the meniscus or the ACL, where structurally a need

(58:38):
of procedure. They say it's inflammation and inflammation you know,
that's more serious than soreness. But that is something that
can be managed. And so he didn't go through contact
practice today. That's another troublesome sign. But yeah, but well,
I would say it's not like the meniscus tear in
the ACL. But again, I get it, we're splitting hairs. Probably.

(59:02):
I'm just saying that there is a pathway for him
to play better. I do still have the skepticism that
you have. But I think the general point I was
making is that Minnesota and Oklahoma City I'm more bullish
on them than Dallas's. But yeah, it's a while. While
West and the Clippers certainly contribute to that.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I would just say this, We've seen this movie too
many times, including last year when I believe the Clippers
would have beaten the Suns last year had Kawhi not
gone down, and we're seeing a replay of that. I
think against a much more formidable Dallas team with Luca
who's a triple double machine.

Speaker 7 (59:41):
Yeah, I mean, I agree, they would have been the
Suns if Kawhi Leonard didn't get hurt. But you know,
I think it goes back to you know what it
could have should in. We know that with Kawhi, this
is what you sign up for, and I don't fault
the Clippers for sign up for me. He's a great player,
and even though it's not ideal that you don't know
when he's available, the alternative options aren't that great. But

(01:00:06):
I think any notion that you know when Kawhi came
back that oh, the Clippers are finally whole and healthy
again and this is their chance. I mean, anyone who
would think that just hasn't followed the Clippers the last
few years, because they have always operated day to day
regular season playoffs. That you know, for whatever encouraging signs

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you see with them, all it takes is for another
game to show otherwise because they've had such a bad
injury history.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Mark great Stuff is always already looking forward to next Saturday.
Enjoy your week ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:00:39):
Likewise, appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
That is Mark Medina Medina Magic or Fox Sports Radio,
NBA and Guru. All right, we got to talk some
football too much, too well, too much news. That's not
proper syntax, but you know what I'm trying to say.
Could the Jets maybe move on from Aaron Rodgers sooner
than people might have expected? I'll give you the latest

(01:01:02):
coming up. I'm Bernie fraddlewer Kemedy Lyve from Las Vegas,
Fox Sports Radio, Tirerack dot Com Studios. Kevid Lock here
listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports
Radio Comedy Lyve from thee tirerack dot Com studios here
in Las Vegas. Could the Jets move on from Aaron Rodgers? Hmmm,
Parish have thought, well, you know, I don't know. Uh.

(01:01:25):
Rogers indicated he would like to play several more years
for the Jets, but he might not be invited back
if the twenty four season goes in the tank. I
get it. The Jets traded Zach Wilson, which means they
do not have a potential quarterback of the future on
the roster, but they have plenty of time to find
one if Rogers remains on the team. For three or

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four more seasons, but things could get real interesting if
the Jets struggle this year. According to Rich Semini, he
wrote a couple of weeks ago, the Jets could quote
be looking for an organizational reset if the twenty twenty
four season is not going well for them. Now, the
Jets do have a solid roster, so a lot of
folks assume they should be a playoff contender if Aaron

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Rodgers is healthy. However, we still have no idea truly
what that offense looks like with Rogers under center, and
he only played what four or five snaps last year
before tearing his achilles, so it's all theoretical at this point. Remember,
Rogers turned forty in December. You can't ignore that. You
also can't ignore the fact that Rogers contract is not

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guaranteed beyond twenty twenty four. I think for now the
Jets are all in on Aaron Rodgers. But if Aaron
Rodgers does not play at an elite level and the
Jets missed the playoffs, you have to agree a complete
rebuild simply might make more sense. Don't like to create
problems that don't exist yet. Don't like to create or

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you know, cause you know, creates that aren't true. But
I will say this that where there's smoke, there's fire.
And I think there's a lot of pressure in New
York because this whole Aaron Rodgers situation is a highly
charged one now, especially with what Jordan Love you know,

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did in Green Bay this last year. Again, don't want
to create dispersions. However, people close to the Jets believe
that it's not a foregone conclusion that Aaron is your
quarterback at infinitum, in perpetuity. Twenty twenty four will be
a very pivotal year. You know, we talk a lot
about the pressure of drafting a quarterback in the first

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round and drafting players in general, and I know that
a lot of sizzle runs out of the draft when
you get to Day three. And by the way, top
of the R one am I'm going to give my
dissertation on why drafting a successful quarterback in the NFL
is such an inexact science and inexact art, and the
numbers bear that out. But if you're paying attention to
Day three, and if passed this prologue neatly in the

(01:04:00):
sixth round, in the seventh round, might be some future stars.
I will share with you what has taken place in
the past and give you a who's who it names
that I bet you didn't know. We're all drafted very late.
But first let's go to our guy, Kevin Wire at
the chef with the.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Least Yeah Busy sports Day on Saturday, NBA Playoffs and
the Lakers getting a win on their home court against
Denver one nineteen to one away to extend their series
to a game five. It's Denver still ahead three games
to one, Anthony Davis showing up in a big way
twenty five points and the twenty three rebounds the Oklahoma

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City Thunder, where they commanding three nothing series lead, they
beat the New Orleans Pelicans one zero, six to eighty five.
Boston Celtics a dominating win against the Miami Heat. Of course,
Miami without Jimmy Butler, and the Celtics do win at
one o four to eighty four to take a two
to one lead in that series. The Magic they dominate
the Cleveland Cavaliers one to twelve to eighty nine.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
That first round.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Series is tied at two games apiece, doubt full for
tomorrow's game between the Bucks and Indiana Pacers. Giannis he's
got a string cass so his return is still in question.
Damian Liller dealing with a strained achilles and as of
about twelve fifteen hours ago, he was observed walking in
a boots, so we'll see if he can be able

(01:05:23):
to suit up on Sunday. The Clippers Kawhi Leonard listed
as questionable for the for LA's playoff game against Dallas.

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
He's dealing with knee inflammation.

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
In the Stanley Cup playoffs, the Dallas Stars get a
win on the Strip, beating the Vegas Golden Knights in
overtime three to two, getting the game winning goal about
four minutes ago in that first overtime period. The Islanders
extend their series as they go to double overtime to
get a win against the Carolina Panthers three to two,
so it is Carolina on top three to one in

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that series. Florida has their lead cut as Tampa Bay
stays alive, winning it six to three. Into the NFL Draft,
it was rounds four through seven on Saturday. Spencer Rattler
went in the fifth round to the Saints and was
the longest gap between quarterbacks taken in NFL history. The
last guy Last quarterback taken before Rattler was Bo Nicks

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at number twelve overall by the Broncos Forest State quarterback
Jordan Travis. He went to the Jets. Washington end up
signing undrafted quarterback Sam Hartman from Notre Dame, the Colts
signing undrafted quarterback Kevin Slovas from a by you.

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
Boston.

Speaker 6 (01:06:36):
In Major League Baseball, the Boston Red Sox win seventeen
to nothing against the Cubs. The Yankees a demolished a
dominating win against the Milwaukee Brewers. They demolished them fifteen
to three. Houston wins its game in Mexico City twelve
to four against the Colorado Rockies. Dodgers make it six
wins in a row, four to two. They win at
Toronto as Bookie Betts had another three hit performance. He's

(01:06:58):
batting three ninety one on the season. Cleveland an eleven
inning win against Atlanta. Fod too, the White Sox get
a win. It's only their fifth win of the season,
but they do get a victory against Tampa Bay eight
to seven. Pittsburgh a extra inning a win against San
Francisco four to three. Back to you, Bernie all Right,
chef an hour from now look forward to your baffo performance.

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All right, So you may or may not have watched
Day three of the draft, but you might want to
pay attention. You never know, because if you take a
close look at some of the best late round picks
in NFL history, and I'm talking after the fifth round,

(01:07:41):
sixth round, seventh round, you might be surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Now, you already know about Tom Brady. Okay, you're probably
sick of hearing it. One hundred and ninety ninth pick overall,
the sixth round of the two thousand draft. Seven Super
Bowl Championships, five Super Bowl MVP Awards, You get Brady.
We don't need to talk about Tom Brady. But I
bet you didn't know that. Terrell Davis, the legendary running
back of the Denver Broncos, wasn't drafted until late in

(01:08:07):
the sixth round, one hundred ninety sixth overall back of
the nineteen ninety five draft. He exceeded all expectations became
one of the most dominant running backs of his era.
And make no mistake, Terrell Davis played a pivotal role
and finally getting the Broncos to their Super Bowl victories
in ninety seven and ninety eight, John Elway was able
to ride off on a white horse. By the way,

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Terrell Davis was also a Super Bowl MVP. His career
could have been longer, cut short by injuries, but Terrell
Davis had so much impact on the game, here into
spot in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Terrell Davis
wasn't drafted until the sixth round. Another gentleman, you see
him everywhere in the media. He's omnipresent gentleman by the

(01:08:51):
name of Shannon Sharp. Also drafted by the aforementioned at
Denver Broncos. Shannon Sharp was drafted in the seventh round,
one hundred and ninety second overall back in the nineteen
ninety NFL Draft. He emerged clearly as one of the
most prolific tight ends in NFL history, also a key

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contributor to the Broncos championship teams in the late nineties.
No doubt about it. Shannon Sharp a big, physical stud,
but he had receiving skills and he had athleticism not
typically seen in the tight end position back in that era.
In fact, some believe that Shannon Sharp actually revolutionized the

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tight end position. Another guy, Shannon Sharp drafted in the
seventh round Super Bowl champion was recognized in twenty eleven
for his exceptional career. He was inducted into the Pro
Football Hall of Fame. Another guy you also see in
the media, well sort of. He's a fixture on Monday
Night Football. And he said quite a career and a

(01:09:57):
very outspoken guy. Obviously, that's the department of redundancy department
talking about Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman back in twenty eleven,
was drafted one hundred and fifty fourth overall. He lasted
till the fifth round by the Seattle Seahawks. Sherman obviously
established himself as one of the league's premier cornerbacks. He

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was maybe one of the best covermen in the game.
Known obviously for his competitive fire like to run his mouth.
He was a key cog in the Seahawks legion of
boom defense and obviously was a key contributor in Super
Bowl forty eight. Look or was it Super Bowl forty

(01:10:39):
eight or fifty whatever whatever they had I think a
Super Bowl forty eight when the Seattle Seahawks won in
crushed Denver. He had multiple Pro Bowl selections and multiple
All Pro honers. Again, Richard Sherman, another guy not drafted
until the fifth round. Finally, now this gentleman, I think

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his legacy has been tarnished by his goofy oddball off
the field behavior and even he's on the field behavior.
You get my drift. I'm talking about Antonio Brown. Antonio
Brown lasted all the way to the sixth round in
the twenty ten NFL Draft, one hundred and ninety fifth overall.
But if you can set aside all the Michigas with

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his feet getting frozen in the helmet situation and running
off the veil with his shirt and some of the
off the field foibles he's had, if you're being honest,
Antonio Brown was one of the most electrifying wide receivers
in the history of the National Football League. He ran
routes with precision, he had exceptional hands, he had exceptional

(01:11:44):
playmaking ability, and he also accumulated a lot of accolades,
multiple Pro Bowl selections, Pro Bowl honors. Antonio Brown was
a world class athlete and put up big numbers in
the NFL. So if you watched today Saturday again, all
the glitz and sizzle from Thursday night was gone. Friday

(01:12:05):
was you know, in the shadow of Thursday. Saturday is
and also ran. Not a lot of people probably watched today.
A lot did, but a lot didn't. You never know.
Could there be an Antonio Brown or a Richard Sherman,
or a Shannon Sharp or Terrell Davis. Who knows, maybe
even a Tom Brady because there were actually many more
quarterbacks selected today. Am I predicting that? No, But don't

(01:12:30):
be surprised if someone emerges from Saturday's draft that you'll
be talking about not only this year in the National
Football League, but in years to come. By the way,
I want to remind everybody shortly after the show a
podcast to be going up. If you missed any of
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(01:12:51):
be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,
just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast,
and you'll see this show posted right after we get
off the air. Ian Roddy, my guy will be taking
care of that coming up. There's been a lot of
talk about women's basketball this year, and justifiably so, and
there's gonna be even more. It's the WNBA seasons getting

(01:13:13):
ready to start. But how about women's golf. A name
has emerged that conjures up memories of the late great
Byron Nelson, who once won eleven tournaments in a row.
I will share with you her story. She's taking the
weekend off, but you need to know what's going on

(01:13:34):
because it's worthy of major news. I'm Bernie Frattle her
Company live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirack
dot Com Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the
Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. We're back on
the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio Comedy live from
the Tarrat dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. We'll

(01:13:54):
take you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern.
A lot of stuff to get to, including the top
of the hour. We've just witnessed the really interesting, I
think draft because we started out with fourteenth straight offensive
players picked. Six of the first players picked where quarterback,

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or six of the first twelve players picked the quarterbacks
for the first eight were quarterbacks. We had the Michael
Pennock situation in reality is going to set in now
holp Spring's eternal but in the modern era of the
NFL since nineteen sixty seven there have been one hundred
and thirty quarterbacks have been selected in the first round.
How many made a playoff game? How many were all Pro?

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How many got to a Super Bowl? The numbers are
going to surprise you. They're going to surprise you. And
I'll give you my theories as to why it is
so hard to draft the quarterback, and draft the quarterback
in the first round and predict their future success. Speaking
of success, say hello to Nelly quarter Now golf.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Would you know?

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Golf's really not talked about a hell of a lot,
And I get it. You gotta play the hits on radio.
Tiger Woods is really not a factor anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
There are a couple new heroes emerging, including on the
men's side, But let me start with the women. Nelly Korda.
Let's go back a week because there was a tremendous
amount of anticipation last week as Nelly Korda entered the
Chevron Championship. Guess what she wanted? What's significance about that?

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Significant about that? It was her fifth straight LPGA win.
That streak ties the longest in LPGA history. Annika Saorumstam
did it what nineteen years ago? In two thousand and five.
Nancy Lopez did it in nineteen seventy eight. Of course,
she ended up marrying Cincinnati Red's third baseman, Ray Knight.

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So you're talking about generational performance here winning five tournaments
in a row. And by the way, it wasn't easy.
The first two wins, Korda had to win in a
playoff hole and last Sunday's win came just by two
strokes and she bolgie two holes on the back nine,
But she still got her second major victory and it

(01:16:08):
was very stressful, but her fifth straight LPGA Tour victory. Now,
the Jam Eagle LA Championship has played this week in
Las Vegas, and there was a lot of anticipation as
to could Nelly Korda win that tournament that would have
been her sixth straight win. Well, she decided to withdraw

(01:16:28):
to rest. So Nelly Korda anyway has sliced it. I mean,
Byron Nelson has the one sports record that they'll never
be broken. He won eleven golf tournaments in a row.
And why do I say it'll never be broken with
such confidence, because golfers don't even enter eleven tournaments in
a row anymore, much less win them. On the other hand,

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Scotti Scheffler is lighted up his as well. At this
time last weekend, Scotty Scheffler was on his way to
competing to win his fourth win in five starts, but
on Sunday the RBC Heritage Tournament was called due to darkness.

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He was up five shots with four holes to play,
and Scotty Scheffler would be the first golfer since Bernhard
Longer forty years ago to follow a master's win with
a victory of the next week. Well, guess what he
did it. Scottie Scheffler did it. He had to wait
an extra day to make it official, but last Monday morning,
Scottie Scheffler finished off one of the greatest seven week

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runs in modern golf with a street He won the
RBC Heritage by three strokes. So you're talking about a
guy that's only twenty seven years old and he is dominating.
Scotty Scheffler is dominating at at a pace and really
probably not getting the run that he should be getting.

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By the way, a fifteen year old finished in the
top at the corn Ferry Tour event. And he's not
only a fifteen year old, but it's his first ever
pro start ever. The kid's name is Miles Russell, right,
he finished fourteen hunder par, became the youngest player to

(01:18:15):
make a cut at a corn Ferry event. And oh,
by the way, he's a lefty. Can't make this stuff up.
And one final thing. When Nelly Cordo won the Chevron
Championship last Sunday, she jumped into the lake after the victory.
Why people do that, I don't know, but I guess

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it's a tradition. One of the things that's also a
tradition is the hopes and dreams of sitting in the
peanut gallery while watching your team draft what you hold
is your next franchise quarterback. But the truth of the
matter is connecting on that and having the kind of

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success you hope for in getting that NFL franchise quarterback. Well,
it's simply put very few and far between. Hope springs eternal,
but reality usually sets in Thursday night, several teams drafted
that next hope, that next great hope of the envisioned

(01:19:23):
savior of the franchise. We're talking about a position that's
the hardest to play in all of professional sports and
has the highest rate of failure. I'm gonna give you
the numbers, and I'm gonna give you my theory as
to why drafting a successful NFL quarterback is an inexact
science and an inexact art. Keep it locked. You're listening
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The NFL drafted in the books Hope Springs Eternal. Six
quarterbacks are drafted in the first twelve picks. You can't
tell me there aren't high expectations. There always is, from
front offices to rosters to fan bases. Hope Springs Eternal
and Thursday Night. The teams that drafted their next hope

(01:20:38):
of a franchise savior, Well, we won't know for a
while how it's going to pan out. But we do
know this. We have a lot of data that we've
amassed going back to nineteen sixty seven, and the truth
of the matter is that the numbers, the numbers, frankly
are daunting. In the modern era of the NFL draft,

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since nineteen sixty seven, there have actually been one hundred
and thirty quarterbacks selected in the first round. But of
those one hundred and thirty, only sixty one, that's forty
six percent, actually won a playoff game as a starter.
More than half never even won a playoff game. These
are first round draft choices. Fifty eight of those quarterbacks,

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forty four percent made to the Pro Bowl, but only
thirteen out of one hundred and thirty won a Super
Bowl as a starter. And of those thirteen, two didn't
win the Super Bowl with the original team that drafted them.
It merely proves predicting the future is impossible. Why Well,

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it's simple. College offenses and defenses differ so greatly from
those on the NFL level, it's virtually impossible to project
what's going to happen when you get to the big leagues.
There are a lot of reasons, but let me start
with one that a lot of folks don't really talk
about college and professional football, where they're played with different

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spacing thanks to different hashmark alignments and Colinson chalk markings
that indicate where the ball will be snapped, whether forty
feet apart, but in the NFL that distance is just
eighteen feet, meaning the ball is near the center of
the field, so it's easier to scheme receivers open in college,
while NFL passing windows are much tighter because of the

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narrow hashmarks and obviously faster better defenders. Right now, all
of that requires faster decision making and greater accuracy, which
is what I thunk I think sunk justin fields now.
Takes time for any rookie at any position to adjust
to a faster place game in the NFL. I get that,

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But when you throw in the responsibilities you heap on
a quarterback, the huddle presence running a huddle, maybe for
the first time, you're doing that every play because in
college you run allowed to no huddle offenses. You've got
to learn how to read more complex defensive coverages. You've
got to make and understand the protections and schemes and

(01:23:14):
all the play call changes and know how to do
that act the line of scrimmage. The amount of information
an NFL quarterback has to process in such a very short,
constrained amount of time is virtually indescribable. And oh, by
the way, you're looked at as a leader and all
the other intangibles as well. Now, NFL coaches, NFL scouts,

(01:23:38):
they have to be clairvoyant. They have to look into
the future, they have to look into the crystal ball.
They have to determine if a college prospect has the
ability to make that leap. Most don't, even though they
look like they do. Bottom line, you can look great
in college, but does that translate to what you're really

(01:23:59):
going to be asked to do when you prosecute an
NFL offense. So when scouts and personnel directors and coaches
evaluate a quarterback, they look at the trades first, and
then they go back and they try to apply those
traits and envision doing certain things that maybe they'll be
asked to do. But they don't even know they're doing

(01:24:19):
at the time. They're able to do it, they're just
not realizing it yet because they haven't had to do
it on the pro level. Okay, how do you explain CJ.
Stroud the Offensive Rookie of the Year last year. He
played at the top five level his first year while
presiding over at Houston Texans offense, whose concepts and responsibilities

(01:24:42):
were completely different from the system CJ. Stroud ran at
Ohio State. You got to give him a ton of credit.
And there were a lot of doubters last year. Remember
that goofy test he took. CJ. Stroud was incredible. Most
people didn't see that coming. By the way, Lamar Jackson
when he was at Louisville, and I was all in

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on Lamar Jackson because I saw the games he had
against the best competition, and you could not not note
that speed and that athleticism and that elusiveness, and there
was no question that Lamar Jackson would even terrorize an
NFL defense as a runner. But a lot of folks

(01:25:25):
faced outs about Jackson's passing ability because he didn't have
to make a lot of NFL type throws during evaluations,
nor did he at Louisville. Now, in his first six
pro seasons with the Baltimore Ravens, Lamar Jackson has twice
won the MVP and he has been among the league
leaders in passer rating. So those are two. Even though

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that had doubters that broke the mold. Here's the kicker.
You can do all the due diligence in the world,
but there's never a sure thing. Do you remember JaMarcus Russell.
We got to go all the way back to two
thousand and seven, but heading into the two thousand and
seven draft, Jamar Russell, JaMarcus Russell was a guy who

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had and I say this and quotes it, he had
the it factor six six, two hundred and fifty six pounds,
big time megastarred LSU and he was as big as alignment,
and he had after the athleticism of the two guys

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I just mentioned. And by the way, Lamar JaMarcus Russell
had a winning pedigree. The LSU was top ten in
his sophomore and junior seasons. By the way, when it
came to his pro day, JaMarcus Russell was performing in

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front of one hundred NFL talent evaluators. It was down
in bat Rouge and Sports where the ball just exploded
out of his hand and he only ran a four
eight forty, But you remember six six, two fifty six,
and he was running faster than other quarterbacks that were
much smaller. There are NFL analysts and they're paid to

(01:27:16):
do this. They described JaMarcus Russell's pro day as the
best they had ever seen. Say what, enter the Oakan Raiders.
The Oakan Raiders fell in love with JaMarcus Russell and
he was the first overall pick in the NFL draft
in two thousand and seven. Three months later, exactly three

(01:27:41):
years later, JaMarcus Russell was out of the NFL. There
has been no sightings of JaMarcus Russell in the NFL
since twenty ten. Well, how did this happen? Well? Al
Davis was mesmerized by JaMarcus Russell because he had incredible
physical gifts. But the Raiders missed all the red flanks

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and then add to that, there was a lengthy contract
called out that really thwarted his development process. Then you
come to find out it was reported that JaMarcus Russell
had a very poor work ethic, He had problems with
substance abuse. And JaMarcus Russell will go down. You know,

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he got the label as one of the biggest busts
in the NFL draft history. JaMarcus Russell has become a
cautionary tale about the dangers of falling in love with
the player based on his pro day performance. But JaMarcus
Russell wasn't the first player to have his draft status

(01:28:45):
inflated because of one magnificent workout that had all the
scouts watching in wonderment. And he won't be the last.
And by the way, way before JaMarcus Russell, let's go
back to nineteen ninety. I know you folks should remember
Jeff George and his pro day. He blew everybody away.

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I'm told Jeff George to the ball like ninety six
yards of his pro day. He convinced the Indianapolis Colts
to draft him first overall, gave him a fifteen million
dollar contract, which, by the way, in nineteen ninety was astronomical.
He had a strong arm, but he was very erratic
and here it is again, peewee, very undisciplined. Jeff George

(01:29:31):
was never more than anything other than a journeyman. He
won thirty seven percent of his games as a starter,
did get to the playoffs. He was one and two
as a starter in the playoffs. Now you heard me
earlier with Chad Andres we were talking about Zack Wilson.
If you're being honest and you remove your subjectivity. Zack

(01:29:53):
Wilson's performance at his pro day in twenty twenty one
sparked comparisons to Aaron Rodgers, and the Jets took Zach Wilson,
who had a good career at BYU with the second
to pick overall. But then reality sets in Zach Wilson.
He proved he was simply unable to adjust to the

(01:30:14):
leap from college to the NFL. Not just the developmental
plan that was subpar around him, and that didn't help matters,
but the leap in the level of competition seemed to
bother Zach Wilson. Not always he had his moments and
lo and behold, here we are just his past week.

(01:30:36):
The Jets basically gave him to the Denver Broncos for
what amounted to a back of footballs Now. I know,
you know the Ryan Leaf story. He washed out after
parts of three NFL seasons in San Diego and Dallas.
And again he had a great Pro day as well.
He had everything going for him as well. But the

(01:30:57):
truth of the matter is, I think Mike Tyson said
it best. Everybody has a plan, so they get punched
in the mouth, all right, All of a sudden you
started facing these six to seven two hundred and eighty
found pass rushers with trackstar speed or an all Pro
safety who jumps the route when you sure the guy
was open. They got better ball skills of both. You

(01:31:20):
know many collegs wide receivers. All of a sudden, you
come off on the sideline after a bad series, and
you got a coach be rating, you got a teammate
be rating you. And the truth of the matter is
quarterbacks who had had nothing but success in their life,
all of a sudden find themselves in in crisis mode.
See here's the thing. When you draft a franchise quarterback.

(01:31:43):
And obviously we're looking at a crop this past week
of who's who in college football from twenty twenty four,
from Caleb Williams to Jade and Daniels right on down
the line, right, But a franchise quarterback is someone who
you are going to win because of john not just

(01:32:03):
win with. That's the idea behind a franchise quarterback. Patrick
Mahomes is that Troy Aikman was, that Steve Young was,
that Warren Muhon was that even though he never won
a Super Bowl, the distinction is at a quarterback he
might throw a couple interceptions the cards winning the games
out of hand. How does he react? A franchise quarterback

(01:32:26):
is going to be able to compartmentalize that. He's going
to have a kind of a quiet mind. He's going
to filter out the mistakes and he's going to go
back in the next series and elevate his level of
play in the most crucial time and critical circumstances when
it matters most, and he's going to guide his team
through through the adversity. That's the kicker. Gauging a quarterback's

(01:32:47):
ability to handle adversity in the NFL is incredibly hard.
That's why it's an inexact science, and it's an inexact
art because very few prospects, and we're talking among the best,
brightest athletes on their teams all the way since they
were back in middle school, nothing will ever compare to
the pressure and what life is like on the day

(01:33:10):
to day basis that you're going to experience in the NFL,
and you don't know until the guy gets there and
the real bullets starting to fly. Coming up more on
this subject, we're gonna go through history. We're gonna talk
about who made it, who didn't, why they did, why
they didn't, and what you can expect coming up. I'm

(01:33:31):
Bernie Fraddle. We're come to your life for the Las
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(01:33:52):
away two am Pacific, five am Eastern. The Dance Sensations
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Thursday night quarterbacks flew off the board, six of them
going in the first twelve selections. Caleb Williams first overall

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to the Bears, Jaden Williams or Jaden Daniels excuse me,
to the Washington Commander's second, Drake May, third to the Pats,
Michael Pennix, the head Scratcher to Atlanta, eighth, J. J.
McCarthy to the Vikings, tenth, and then bow Nix to
the Broncos. Twelve. That matches the historic nineteen eighty three
quarterback draft for most quarterbacks taken in the first round.

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But you've never had six gone in the first twelve
as fast as they were Thursday night. Some of these
quarterbacks they're going to start right away. Others might sit
for a bit, but all of them, they are the
symbol of hope. Is there a brighter day I had
for your franchise? Could they be your savior? You see,

(01:34:58):
you don't know what you got until the real bullets
start to fly. One of the biggest I think comparisons
and juxtapositions in terms of trying to project how a
quarterback is going to do when it looks like he's
got stardom written all over him. Let's go back to

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nineteen ninety eight, because you know all know about Peyton
Manning and Ryan Leaf. All right, Ryan Leaf, Now I
was in Michigan, was covering Michigan football. That was the
year Michigan won the mythical National Championship. They beat Washington
State in the Rose Bowl that year. I believe it
was twenty one to sixteen with the final score. But
Ryan Leaf was an unreal He was tremendous and probably

(01:35:45):
my worst sports prediction of all time might not be
the only one, but I got to take my medicine.
I actually thought Ryan Leaf would have the better career
than Peyton Manning. YEP, can't lie. Ryan Leaf was even
signed and recruited by the legendary sports agent Steinberg because scouts, agents,
personnel directors many believed that Ryan Leaf possessed far better,

(01:36:12):
greater physical gifts and the measurables were far more impressive
than Peyton Manning, who actually ended up going number one
to the Indianapolis Colts. I mean, obviously you know what
the history was, so I don't need to remind you.
But after being selected second overall by the San Diego Chargers,

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Ryan Leaf played portions of only three NFL seasons. He
started twenty one games and only won four, four and
seventeen as a starter. In his entire career career, he
threw just fourteen touchdown passes and thirty six interceptions, got
sacked sixty five times. Why adversity, You didn't see it coming.

(01:36:59):
Leif was very charismatic during the Super Bowl or a
Rose Bowl against Michigan for somewhere, for some reason. Again,
it's against the law of practice psychology without a license,
and I'm not going to try to do it. But
when adversity showed up, for some reason, Ryan Leaf recoiled,
he receded, he became more isolated, he felt embarrassed. And

(01:37:25):
Ryan Leaf actually had a great training camp, really good
training camp, had a really good couple of preseason games.
Then the regular season started and everything could just completely
came apart. And obviously, in Ryan Leaf's post career, you
know about his foibles, you know about his situations, even

(01:37:47):
in some jail time. Now it's all behind them, and
he's very articulate. He actually is unabashed about telling his story.
He's trying to help other people. He's twenty five years
removed from the situation. Meanwhile, Peyton Manning, Hall of Famer,
won Super Bowls with two different franchises. Predicting the future

(01:38:10):
in drafting quarterbacks is virtually impossible. It's an inexact science.
It's an inexact art. College football and professional football through
two different games, including the spacing on the field, the athletes,
the pressure, the money. It's incredible. Now for some reason,

(01:38:33):
maybe Green Bay has the cheek code in their approach
because they've nailed now nailed it three times in a row.
They did it with Brett Farvre. Well they didn't draft Green.
Let's be fair. You go back to the early nineties.
Brett Favre was a wild stallion. He was with the

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Atlanta Falcons for a minute, ended up with the Packers,
but the Packers acquired him. The Packers acquired him, and
by that time there had been, you know, an opportunity
for there to be development at the position. But the
Packers have repeatedly drafted quarterbacks before their starter, their current starter,

(01:39:15):
and their play drops off. So the coaches don't feel
the pressure to just rush some young prospect on the
field prematurely. They've actually had succession plans now from Brett
Favre to Aaron Rodgers to now Jordan Love, which is
interestingly enough, led to stability for three decades. But the

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Packers are the outliers. And oh, by the way, before
you know, we have a Packer parade here. Only two
Super Bowl wins since nineteen sixty seven. Remember, it's an
inexact science and it's an inexact art. It's interesting and
coming up after after the chef's update. It's not just

(01:40:03):
since nineteen sixty seven, You got to remember thirteen years
ago there was a change in the wage scale for
rookie deals. The NFL changed the Collective Bargaining Agreement. What
that did was make it more affordable to draft a quarterback.
There was less risk. If a memory serves, and I

(01:40:24):
know the knuckleheads who line wait will tweet at me
if I'm wrong, I believe Sam Bradford was the last
of the mole egans, getting the fifty million dollars deal
before he ever took a snap. That all changed in
twenty eleven. Well, including Thursday Night, there have been forty
four quarterbacks drafted since twenty eleven. Now, six have never

(01:40:46):
even suited up for their team yet or never even
had an official workout with their team, But thirty eight
have How have those thirty eight done in the last
thirteen years, given the fact that the risk of drafting
a quarterback is diminished given the new rookie wage scale. Again,
the numbers are going to surprise you. These are first

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round players where all the you know, the brightest minds
in the world put their heads together and try to
ascertain who's going to be the savior. How have they done?
I'm going to share with you. But first let's go
to a guy Kevin Wire, the chef with the latest.

(01:41:27):
We've got to handle the ball better.

Speaker 9 (01:41:30):
You've got to hold your football like you would hold
your lever. Gently, get ferrible.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
You want to be.

Speaker 9 (01:41:37):
Both murdering and cleaning up the same time. Oh yeah, Ski,
love to the footballing be not the foot ball spanky
Gary Spanky.

Speaker 5 (01:41:58):
Uh some.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Chef another baffo performance and staying with the times as
we are just removed from the NFL.

Speaker 8 (01:42:07):
I think that's good advice.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
You gotta submit this chef to the Peabody people.

Speaker 6 (01:42:10):
Yeah, I think that's good advice to give out to
all of the two hundred and fifty seven draftees out
in the NFL draft today, as it did conclude rounds
four to through seven on Saturday. Spencer Ratler taken in
the fifth round by the Saints. He was the first
quarterback taken since Thursday, when Bo Nicks went number twelve
overall to the Broncos. So that wide gap from the

(01:42:32):
first round to the fifth round four rounds the longest
time or the longest gap in NFL history between quarterbacks
taken in the NFL Draft. Other notable picks quarterback Jordan
Travis from Florida Stay. He went to the Jets Washington,
signing Sam Hartman from Notre Dame Colt signing undrafted quarterback
Keaton Slovas from b YU NBA playoffs on Saturday, the Lakers'

(01:43:00):
den their season. They gonna win against the Denver Nuggets
one nineteen, oneh eight, so Denver ahead in that series
three games to win. Anthony Davis a big performance twenty
five points and twenty three rebounds. The Thunder ahead three
nothing in their series. They gonna win at New Orleans
one oh six eighty five. Boston an easy one oh
four eighty four victory against the Miami Heat. They're up

(01:43:21):
two games to one in that series. Orlando a dominating
win against the Cavaliers one twelve eighty nine, so the
Magic and Calves tied at two games apiece. Some injury news,
Yiannis doubtful for tomorrow's Milwaukee Bucks at at Milwaukee Bucks
at Indiana Pacers game. He is trying to make his

(01:43:42):
return for the postseason, but looking not likely as he's
dealing with a strained CAF. Damian Lillard he's been seen
in a walking boot. He's had a strained to Kayley's
also listed as doubtful. The Clippers Kawhi Leonard. He's listed
as questionable for their game against the Dallas Mavericks. He's
dealing with the inflammation. NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Stars

(01:44:04):
get their first win. They go to Vegas and get
an overtime victory, winning it three to two, so they
cut the deficit in that series to two games to one.
The Boston Bruins now up three games to one against
toronlod They get a three to one victory against the
Maple Leaves the Islanders. They extend their season a double
overtime win against the Carolina Panthers three to two. Tampa

(01:44:26):
Bay staying alive with a six to three win against Florida.
Major League Baseball Boston blowing out the Chicago cub seventeen
to nothing. Yankees a dominating whin at Milwaukee fifteen to three.
Houston goes to Mexico City to beat the Rockies twelve
to four. Dodgs make it six in a row as
they beat the Blue Jays four to two. Mookie bets
three hits. He's hitting three ninety one on the season.

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Back to Berney all right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
Jeff another BAFO performance. Remember twenty seven minutes coming up,
We'll bring in the chef, We'll bringing in We're bringing
Mark the dance sensation sweep in the nation. What kind
of brand new fool you followed by? What my name?
All Right? I've talked about the history going back to
nineteen sixty seven. Well, we're in a bit of a
new era, okay, because the NFL introduced a rookie wage

(01:45:14):
scale in twenty eleven, and it reduced the liability and
the risk, you know, relatively speaking on bringing in a quarterback.
I mean, you know, you're bringing a Sam Bradford, you're
paying fifty million dollars before he's ever taken a snap.
And it wasn't just him, the guys before that. It
was it was a system that was you're just incredulous

(01:45:37):
to hear these numbers when you're getting this kind of
money and you're being paid more than guys who maybe
had won Super Bowl. All right, so now you've got
this new deal where you get a rookie quarterback, you
get him on a cheap rookie deal, and that's the
new model, right, get your quarterback on a rookie deal
and build the roster around him, and so now we're

(01:45:57):
seeing more quarterbacks than ever drafted in the first round. Okay,
but half things substantively changed. It turns out where there
have been forty four quarterbacks now drafted in the first
round since twenty eleven, and that's the key year because
that's the year that the NFL put together a new

(01:46:19):
collective bard Inning agreement, and what that did was completely
recalibrate the weight scale for rookie deals. Okay, six of
the forty four quarterbacks have never taken a stat so
let's deal with the thirty eight who have. Well, the
gun news is those thirty eight first round quarterbacks since
twenty eleven, they have made almost two thousand starts in

(01:46:42):
the NFL. Their accumulative record, wait for it, one game
under five hundred. These are the first round show ponies.
One game under five hundred. By the way, only one
of those thirty quarterbacks led the team do Super Bowl victory.

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That would be mister Patrick Mahomes. Now, in fairness, we'll
never know five six years ago, had Nick Foles not
stepped in to save the day and get the Eagles fly,
Eagles fly their Super Bowl, We'll never know what Carson
Wentz might have done. He was having quite a year

(01:47:27):
okay with ever No, but he got hurt, which again
is part of the equation. You know, ability, and part
of ability is availability. Now, also, to be fair, of
the thirty eight quarterbacks drafted in the first round in
the last thirteen years, another new wage scale, they're still
ten on the rookie deal. So that leaves twenty eight. Well,

(01:47:49):
believe it or not, here's another thing. You draft the
guy in the first round. Well, how many of those
twenty eight performed well enough to earn the right to
be offered a second deal with the team after them?
Eleven out of the twenty eight, seventeen didn't. That means
sixty one percent of the time these quarterbacks didn't didn't

(01:48:12):
warrant getting a second deal with their team, even though
they warranted be in a first round draft choice. Some
of them were cut out right. Most just saw their
rookie deals expire and had to find employment elsewhere. So
forget getting to a super Bowl, forget getting to the playoffs,
forget being a winning quarterback. You're a rookie first year.
Check it out, you're a first round quarterback on a

(01:48:34):
rookie deal. You're not even getting a second contract sixty
one percent of the time. Now do you think that
teams expect to have this rate of failure? No, of
course not. Look at the six that are drafted the
first round. Now pick which ones. I'm not going to
catch as persians, but as a next weekend I'm gonna
get I'm going to get heavily into the biggest question

(01:48:57):
marks that scouts have on these quarterbacks, including Caleb Williams.
Obviously the most talented quarterback prospect we've seen in years.
Credible alarm talent, credible playmaking ability, clearly the best of
this class. Right, But scouts have questions about whether or

(01:49:19):
not Caleb Williams can really play in structure and limit
negative plays because when he was at USC, it was
like a freelance improvisation. Apparently, according to a gentleman, there's
this great research a got by the name of Nick Aldridge.
I'm probably pronouncing his name wrong. I'm sorry. Apparently Caleb

(01:49:43):
Williams had fifty dropbacks this year at USC where he
had more than six seconds to throw. That's unheard of.
That was not only the most in college football, that
never happens in the National Football league. So looking at
a guy Caleb Wiams, and he was the number one
guy overall. He played out of structure so often that

(01:50:05):
you don't know if he can play in structure, and
you don't know. Now, maybe he'll make liars out of me.
I'm not saying he's not. He's not gonna make a
liar out of me. You get my point. Maybe this
will be moot, he'll adjust, he'll be developed. But he
had a terrible pressure to sack ratio and he turned
the ball over a lot because he tried to play
hero ball too much. Part of that is decision making

(01:50:26):
and try to keep him plays alive in and outside
of the pocket. But he's your franchise, he's your hope
for the Bears. Even called the putter said, don't worry
about it. You're not gonna be punting a lot this year.
I think that was stupid. Okay. The bottom line, even
in recent years with the new wage scale, thirty eight
quarterbacks drafted. Most have only got about three and a

(01:50:48):
half years and they were gone. Why poor performance, And
the truth of the matter is only nineteen percent of
the time did the teams who drafted these quarterbacks in
the last thirteen years even make the playoffs. Now, as

(01:51:08):
I mentioned earlier, only one actually won a super Bowl,
and maybe the super Bowl is too finite a goal,
and only one rookie quarterback or checked that only one
quarterback on his rookie deal has led his team to
the Super Bowl. So and this is in recent times
with the new wage scale. All right, by the way,
Jared Goff, Joe Burrow, Cam Newton led his team to

(01:51:29):
a super Bowl, but he's not on the rookie deal
at the time, so maybe you want to dial it back.
Only six of the thirty eight quarterbacks who were drafted
in the first round even got to the conference championships
on the rookie deal. Give them credit. Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow,
Jared Goff, Josh Allen lost, Blake Boroles lost, Andrew Luck lost.

(01:51:52):
So we're talking about big time studs here, and we're
talking about risk. Remember the Lion the Niners Ta Trey
Lance had to trade three first round picks and a
third round pick Robert Griffin third. Washington had to trade
two first round picks and a second round pick. Meanwhile,
the Texans just broke the bank to get to Shan

(01:52:14):
Watson Okay, right on down the line. These are quarterbacks
revaluated and scrutinized and believed to be the next franchise guy.
I've got no beef with Sam Darnold. I think he's
been in back situations. But the Jets had to trade
a first round pick and three second round picks to
get him. You heard what I said about Josh Rosen earlier,

(01:52:38):
and the worst news is the Cardinals had to trade
a first round pick and a third round pick and
a fifth round pick just to get Josh Rosen. And
he was still pissed off because three quarterbacks are draft
that I had up, by the way, are all still
working in the National Football League. The Bears, they're all
giddy about. Now we've come full circle. The Bears giddy
giddy about kayleb Williams, and maybe that excitement will be justified.

(01:53:03):
But let's go back even before, justin Fields, the Bears
had to trade a first round pick, two third round picks,
and a fourth round pick to move up to get
Mitchell Trubisky. And by the way, Trubisky, Trubisky twenty five
and thirteen as a starter got to the playoffs two
or three years, wouldn't won a playoff game. If not
for the double doink field goal completed sixty seven percent

(01:53:25):
of his passes wasn't good enough. I'm not mixed enough,
mixed up. Trubisky was never going to get the Bears
so a Super Bowl. I get that. So look, we
will see what we will see coming up, all right.
The average age of starting quarterbacks in the last fifteen
years is twenty eight years old. The average age of

(01:53:46):
starting quarterbacks in the playoffs is twenty nine years old.
The average starting quarterback who won a playoff game and
then actual football league is thirty. This is a tough, tough,
tough deal. As I said, and I've repeated it ad
nausea now, projecting a quarterback. Drafting a quarterback in the

(01:54:09):
first round is inexact science. And yes, it is certainly
in exact art coming up. One of the real stars
of the draft night was a guy. Well, he won't
even be on the field this year. I guarantee you

(01:54:30):
that he's too old, But polly was he a star
on Thursday night. I'll explain Kevin up. I'm Bernie Fraddlewar
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What my name? Before I get into the emerging star
on Thursday Night's NFL Draft, even though he will play
it down this year. You'll see why in a minute.
I want to digress for a second. I talked about
Nelly Corter winning five straight championships, closing in on Byron Nelson,

(01:55:16):
and the reason I brought it up is because of
the history she's making, and then she of course his tradition.
She jumped into the water afterward, and I made the statement,
I don't know why they do that, and I didn't.
I was clunky. I was clunky because I know that
this is done. The context of which I was saying
it is I don't know why they do it in
the first place, but my executive producer, Mark Ramsey has

(01:55:39):
some insight. Mark take it away.

Speaker 10 (01:55:42):
So from what I understand of that tournament, I think
it's what used to be held in Lakinta and whatever
the course was. At the very end of the tournament,
the winner is, you know, thinking everybody and then her
team they all jump into a pool. I think it's
called Poppy's Pond. So I think it originated when way

(01:56:06):
back when they were playing it, one of the winners
just did it impromptu, just jumped in because they were
so happy, they jumped in the pond. So years after
that a winner would just do the same same thing.
They would just follow suit and everybody would jump in.
One year one of the winners jumped in and she
happened to break her leg, so it became a weird thing,

(01:56:27):
but they just kept doing it. And since it moved
from Lakinta to a different location and they changed the
name of it. But I think it used to be
the Diana's Shore, and now that's like it's got a
sponsorship championship. Now they do it in a different location.
But that's the reason for that, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
I appreciate that, and I there's always history, and I
appreciate that I made the statement just sort of in
a flip and throwaway statement. I don't know why they
do this knowing that it's been traditioned, Mark, why, knowing
that it's done every year. But you may be interested
to note that Nelly Korda in doing it, and by

(01:57:07):
the way, she nailed, she did a cannonball. There was
a minor problem, Mark, Believe it or not. She was
worrying a watch that was designed by a Swiss designer
named Richard mill one of her sponsors. The watch she
jumped into the water with on her wrist worth three
hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 10 (01:57:25):
Yeah, I noticed that in the picture she had her
watch on.

Speaker 11 (01:57:28):
She took her shoes up when she left a watch on.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
How ironic is that? Three hundred times no word as
if the watch is waterproof. By the way, look, Bill
Belichick wasted no time Thursday night critiquing his old team's
new quarterback. And it's funny because they drafted Bill Belichick
as the star was a rising star, you know. He
basically he gave Drake May some props as being a

(01:57:53):
very talented kid with a good size and the good arm.
And he can run, but he does it too often
and he's got some this he bails out the pocket
too quick. But it cracked me up because Drake may
has compared himself to Josh Allen. What did Bill Belichick
sagas well? We'll see about that. There's similar in terms
of size, But come on, Josh Allen is a special player.

(01:58:15):
Belichick was phenomenal. He's got a future in this But
I'm gonna make a prediction Belichick will be back coaching
in the NFL in twenty twenty five. We shall see.
But he was sure a star with his as was
Nick Saban. But you knew Sabin was, but he hadn't
seen Belichick in this role much right, And he did
not pull any punches. And Bill Belichick has more of
a sense of humor than people realize. Coming up, what

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sometimes are very innocuous and just silly and stupid. Other
times they're far more dangerous, even nefarious, and many times
can even land you in jail. However, no matter what

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these behaviors are, when people engage in these events and
these activities, you always are left scratching your head and
asking yourself, what kind of brand new fool of you?
While it's not uncommon during the Burning Frattle Show when
we talk about what kind of brand new fool of you,
that we travel down to Florida and that's where we

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take you this week. Now, a lot of people dream
of winning the lottery. It's amazing to see lined up
around the building when these prizes get to be fairly
well astronomical. But even if it's just a poultry million
dollar prize, it can cause people to do things that
leave you scratching your head. Meet Kira Enders and her

(02:00:38):
boyfriend Dakota Jones, Well, they really, really, really really wanted
to win the lottery, so they devised a scheme that
would trick lottery officials. They wanted that million dollar prize.
They found two tour and scratch off tickets and managed
to splice them together to form a winning ticketket. According

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to the authorities in Pensacola, what happened was the two
tickets were ripped horizontally, with the top of one half
a ticket in the bottom half of the other. They
carefully pieced them together and it showed that they would
in fact be the one million dollar prize winner, which
is according to the police report cited by the Pensacola
News Journal. However, and they referred to this ticket as

(02:01:24):
a Frankenstein ticket didn't exactly fool anybody, because these two
fine folks, Kira and Dakota, they forgot to check the
serial numbers of the two different scratch offs. According to
law enforcement, they took two tickets with different One side
had a serial number, the other side had another serial

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number on it. That kind of screwed the whole thing up.
They were pretending like they'd one a million dollars right, Well,
the Florida Lottery sort of went along with it, because
they showed up several days later and submitted the ticket
to the Florida Lottery apparently, and they drove to meet

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with a lottery agent to follow up about the possible winnings.
But instead of being handed a big check Karen Dakota,
they were quickly escorted into custody, separated and questioned separately
once they arrived. And this part's the beauty to me.
The rest of it's stupid as hell, but this is

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the part to me that's the beauty. Miss carr Enders
allegedly claimed, well, hew, the ticket fell out of her
car and then it got rained on. The police report
wrote that end there, and then she told authority she
tried to scratch it before it was drying, was forced
to tape it together to keep it from getting further ruined.
Well after Miss Enders was confronted about the mismatching backsides

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of the serial numbers of the two half, she said,
what they don't go together? She acted confused, and she
argued the ticket wasn't taped the right way. According to
the police report, she said she was going to share
the winnings with mister joneson she'd hope to open up
a hairstalon at any rate. These two knuckleheads, they realize

(02:03:14):
that they weren't going to get the million dollars, and
once mister Jones said the ticket was scratched, he was like,
no freaking way. And by the way, he threw his
girlfriend under the bus, saying they did not buy the ticket.
He doesn't know what Enders said, but that's the truth. Anyway.
It gets worse from there. They're both arrested, charged with forgery,

(02:03:35):
alteration of a lottery ticket with intended to fraud, passing
a forged altered state lottery ticket, larceny, grand theft of
one hundred thousand dollars or more. They in trouble Cure
Enders and Dakota Jones. What kind of brand new fools?
Are you.

Speaker 5 (02:03:54):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
Chef?

Speaker 8 (02:03:55):
You're up all right?

Speaker 6 (02:03:57):
Well, theme, I've been going way when I play this
game is people using corpses to try to get money.
And we have all yes, we have another instance of this.
We go down to Brazil.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
World last week. But you need to take it again.
Take it again.

Speaker 7 (02:04:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:04:10):
Woman brought a sixty or eight year old man in
a wheelchair into a bank branch to try to get
him to sign for a loan. However, he had been
dead for several hours. She reeled the cadaver into the
bank in a Rio suburb on Tuesday, and she told
the teller that the man wanted a loan for the
Brazilian equivalent of thirty two one hundred dollars. She held

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a pen and even moved his hand forward with it
with no response, which kind of kind of caught the
attention of the teller, and then she was even like, uncle,
are you listening. You need to sign And then she's like, oh,
don't worry about it. He's always like that's how he is.
And then she's like, hey, if you're not okay, I'm
going to take you to the hospital. And staff like
they were looking at her do that, and they got suspicious,

(02:04:57):
especially since the man's head kept falling back when the
w would stop holding it up, and that caused him
to call the police. They arrested her and charged her
with fraud. The corpse was taken to the morgue. Her
lawyer actually even tried to argue that the man was
actually alive when he was wheeled in, but died in
the bank itself. However, the police forensic lab determined that

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he had actually died earlier that day while lying down.
So woman in Brazil, what kind of brand new fool
are you?

Speaker 2 (02:05:31):
Yeah, they had the whole thing on videotape. It's just
just a credible all right, chef, good stuff, Ian Roddy,
you're up, my man.

Speaker 12 (02:05:40):
That's like a Weekend of Bernie situation right there. But anyway,
so for me, our story begins in Brooklyn, New York,
which is actually where I'm from originally, so you know,
close to home.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
There, but great cities.

Speaker 12 (02:05:54):
Yeah, So today's fool is named Antonio Rosario, a thirty
five year old who has actually served prison time for
attempted murder before. So already not off to a great
start to the story here. But so Rosario walked into
a Dunkin Donuts intending to order six pumpkin donuts. I
don't know if that was for friends or all for him,

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but either way, unfortunately, the dunkin Donuts only had five left,
and that was very unfortunate for the workers themselves, which
you know, I say that because Rosario became beside himself
with anger when they told him that they only had
five they were one short, and he was so mad

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that he started screaming at the workers that they were
going to make another bleeping pumpkin donut. They were scared
for their lives, saying he was, you know, appearing intoxicated.
Reports that he briefly pulled out a gun before sticking
it back into his pants, so the terrified employees naturally
called the police. Rosario left the Dunkin Donuts without hurting anyone, thankfully,

(02:07:00):
but the police found him at a nearby deli and
confirmed he did have a loaded gun on him. And
now because of that over a pumpkin donut, he's facing
up to seven years in prison.

Speaker 11 (02:07:11):
My goodness, because as.

Speaker 12 (02:07:12):
A you know, as a former felon, you're not allowed
to have a loaded weapon on you like that, and
let alone brandish it in public. So Antonio Rosario, what
kind of brand new fool are you?

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
And all over a freaking donut A donut? All right,
good stuff, guys. As always, another resounding edition of what
kind of brand new fool of you is in the books,
which allows us to now segue into our second favorite
bit that we lovingly refer to as what my name?

(02:07:49):
All right, we'll start with a little NFL draft theme.
As you saw Thursday night, JJ McCarthy was drafted in
the first round by the Minnesota Vikings. But before JJ McCarthy,
I'm actually the last Michigan quarterback should be drafted in
the first round of the NFL draft. Mark Ramsey, What
my name? Bo Sham Beckler Boa Shim Beckler, former legendary

(02:08:14):
Michigan coach love the names. Before JJ McCarthy, I'm actually
the last Michigan quarterback to be drafted in the first
round of the NFL draft. Kevin Wire at the chef.
What my name?

Speaker 8 (02:08:26):
I'm going to guess Jim Harbaugh.

Speaker 2 (02:08:27):
It is, in fact, Jimmy James, Jim James, Joseph Harbaugh. Yes, sir,
off to a rousing start, all right. I just got
drafted by the Buffalo Bills this past week as a
wide receiver. But guess what I haven't played six games
for Tom Izzell at Michigan State. Ian Roddy, what my name?

Speaker 11 (02:08:49):
That would be key On Coleman.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
That is exactly right, Key Coleman. You guys just showing off.
Now off to a rousing start. What's upon a time?
I was drafted in the NFL. But you know, back
in nineteen eighty nine, I hit thirty two home runs
and then I averaged five point five yards per carry
in the fall playing in the NFL. Mark Ramsey, what

(02:09:14):
my name?

Speaker 10 (02:09:16):
Bo Jackson?

Speaker 2 (02:09:18):
You guys are killing it tonight, absolutely killing it. That's
what we like to see, all right. I now currently
have hit more home runs in Major League Baseball than
any other Japanese born Major League Baseball player, the chef

(02:09:41):
Kevin Wire. What my name? Once again, you guys are
just lining him up and knocking him down, making a mockery,
tearing it apart. That is four in a row, all right, Well,
Shoheotani broke my record for most lifetime home runs any
Japanese born Major League baseball player. Ian Roddy, what my name?

Speaker 12 (02:10:05):
Oh, vary at risk of breaking our streak here of four,
but I'm gonna guess.

Speaker 11 (02:10:09):
Hideki Matsui and.

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
Your guess is correct. It's a good one, as Regis
phil When used to say, you guys are gonna make
it six in a row. Because I tipped this off
earlier in the show. I won my fifth straight LPGA
tournament last week to tie the all time record mark Ramsey,

(02:10:33):
whatn't my name?

Speaker 8 (02:10:35):
Nelly Korda, Nellie Korda.

Speaker 2 (02:10:39):
It's getting hot in here? See what I did there?
All right? That was a Nelly reference? Yeah, thank you
very much, Thank you very much. Two show Saturday, folks.
Opening up for sky Green and the Catskills next week.
Don't forget to try to semi boneless spaghetti. Okay, I
hold the all time PGA record. I have won eleven

(02:11:00):
tournaments in well, let me that's the clunky way of
reading it. I hold the all time PGA record having
won eleven tournaments in a row. Kevin Wyre, what my name?

Speaker 8 (02:11:13):
Hmm, I'm gonna guess Jack Nicholas.

Speaker 2 (02:11:17):
Not Jack Nicholas. I hold the all time PGA record
by winning eleven tournaments in a row. Ian Roddy, what
my name?

Speaker 12 (02:11:25):
I'm I'm second guessing myself because I feel like usually
the safe guest with any record like that In golf
would be tiger Woods.

Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
Not tiger Woods. Interesting, not Tiger Woods. I hold the
all time PGA record by winning eleven tournaments in a row.
Mark Ramsey, What my name?

Speaker 10 (02:11:45):
Byron Nelson?

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
It is, in fact, Byron Nelson, the legendary Byron Nelson. Alrighty,
back to football with all the quarterback talk. Well, I'm
actually the first ever professional quarterback to throw for four
thousand yards in a season in professional football. Kevin Wirett,

(02:12:07):
what my name?

Speaker 6 (02:12:08):
The first ever professional quarterback to throw four thousand yards
in a season? Yep, ah, I'm gonna guess Joe Montana.

Speaker 2 (02:12:18):
Not Joe Montana. For a minute there, I thought you
had it. First ever quarterback to throw for four thousand
yards in professional football in a single season. Ian Rotti,
what my name?

Speaker 12 (02:12:30):
You can't ask a Jets fan something like that, very
It's too easy.

Speaker 11 (02:12:33):
That's Broadway. Joe Namath, you got it, my.

Speaker 2 (02:12:35):
Man, you got it? All right, We're this close to
a clean sweep nine for nine. All right, I'm actually
the first quarterback in professional football to throw for five
thousand yards in a season, Mark Ramsey, what my name
is it?

Speaker 8 (02:12:55):
Brett Favre not Brett farv.

Speaker 2 (02:12:59):
I'm actually the first professional quarterback to this department, to
redundancy department. I'm actually the first quarterback to ever throw
for five thousand yards in a single season in professional football.
The chef Kevin Wyret, what my name?

Speaker 8 (02:13:13):
I'm gonna go Peyton Manning.

Speaker 2 (02:13:14):
Not Peyton Manning. I am the first quarterback to throw
for five thousand yards in a single season in professional football.
Ian Roddy, what my name?

Speaker 5 (02:13:25):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (02:13:25):
Dan Marino?

Speaker 2 (02:13:26):
It is Dan Marino. And at the end of the show,
I will have a quick anthology all of that legendary
quarterback class whereby six quarterbacks were also drafted in the
first round. And man, this quarterback class has a tough
act to follow. When I tell you, by the way,
Friday was April twenty six, it was April twenty six

(02:13:47):
to the day, forty one years ago that six quarterbacks
were drafted in the same draft. Some real big household names.
By the way, shortly after the show tonight, our podcasts
to be going up. If you miss any tonight show, well,
be sure to check it out the podcast and just
search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Be
sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Again, just

(02:14:09):
search Fox Sports Radio. Wherever you get your podcast, you'll
see the show posted right after we get off the air.
Ian Radio will take care of that. Listen to my
podcast coming up. I want to bring the crew in.
I know this is a little weird and perhaps not
too congenial. I want to hear from the three guys,

(02:14:30):
all of the six quarterbacks drafted in the first twelve,
which one do you think has a chance to be
the biggest bust. My answer is gonna surprise you. I'm
Bernie fradlew Comany live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports
Radio Tireck dot Com studios. Don't go away you listening
to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. We're
back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. I

(02:14:53):
want to go round the room. Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels,
Drake May, Michael Pennix, Junior, JJ McCarthy and Bonix or
the six quarterbacks drafted in the first round. All right,
this may cost some people to gnash their teeth, But

(02:15:17):
the question I have for the guys, which one do
you think is the most likely to be the proverbial
quote bust? Chef will start with you.

Speaker 6 (02:15:27):
I think Jaden Daniels, I think is the most likely
to bust. He's a guy who seems to take a
lot of hits when he's throwing a long time to
throw the ball. Dan Quinn's a defensive minded coach in Washington,
So I'm not sure exactly what the coaching situation is
going to be offensively for Washington regarding his development, But
just a way that I saw him play in college

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and the fact that he's going to a franchise that
really has not had a good reputation in developing quarterbacks
over essentially my lifetime, I think it's a tough situation
there in Washington.

Speaker 2 (02:16:01):
Good point. It's a good point taking the franchise into consideration,
which is always a consideration. One of the questions a
scout had he threw over four hundred passes, but over
thirty word between the ash marks, So see in the
middle of the field may or may not be an issue.
And I know that when he was pressured, Daniels looks
to scramble a little bit instead of maneuvering in the

(02:16:22):
pocket making his throws. That was justin field's problem. So
we shall see. Mark Ramsey your thoughts.

Speaker 10 (02:16:29):
I'm gonna take my mentality from an old TV commercial
with a name like Smuckers, it has to be good.
I'm gonna go with bow Nicks. If your last name
is Nicks, you might not be good.

Speaker 2 (02:16:43):
I see what you did there at a little wordplay, right.

Speaker 10 (02:16:47):
That's what I'm going with.

Speaker 2 (02:16:48):
Yeah, I like it. Look, there's some questions that that
bow Knicks scouts had about fitting the ball into tight
windows and all you have in these tight windows, and
you gotta be careful. Sometimes you look like you got
a an open receiver on the opposite hash and all
of a sudden, the defender jumps the route and makes

(02:17:10):
a play on the ball, or your receive breaks up
the pass. So that's one of the concerns that scout
has Scout's half.

Speaker 12 (02:17:17):
All right, Yeah, a little different reasoning than Mark. But
I'm also gonna I'm also gonna go with Bonnicks as
who I think would be the biggest chance of busting there. Look,
there were six quarterbacks in the top half of the
first round, and there are not gonna be six star
quarterbacks coming out of it, Like some of these guys

(02:17:37):
are going to bust. So I think this is actually
a great question, a great talking point, Bernie, But yeah,
my pick's Bonnix just be like, honestly, in large part
it's it's the the Broncos themselves, Like they don't have
any receivers besides Courtland Sutton, but they might be trying
to move him.

Speaker 11 (02:17:52):
They don't really have much of an offensive line.

Speaker 12 (02:17:55):
I like Sean Payton, but it's, you know, like, how
much is he gonna be able to to cover up
Bonex when, let you know again, most of his college
production came at or behind the line.

Speaker 11 (02:18:06):
Of scrimmage throwing. So it's I don't know.

Speaker 12 (02:18:10):
I can see a reality where he pans out, especially
with what Sean Payton was able to get out of
Drew Brees late in his career. But to me, Bonex
has the highest chance of busting.

Speaker 2 (02:18:22):
Okay, fair enough, and we all know Sean Payton is
not a patient man, and they're not patient fans in Denver,
and why would they be. They haven't gone to the
playoffs in eight years. And to your point, we don't
know the weapons he's going to have, So we have
two for Boonix and one for Jade Daniels. All right, guys,
put your seatbelts on. I'm about to break up the party.
First of all, this guy has been compared to Patrick Mahomes.

(02:18:44):
The only reason they do that is because he works
off script. But I don't know anything really about his
huddle presence and some of the other intangibles. And I
don't want to catch his versions. And let me preface
what I say with the fact that I hope I
him dead wrong. When the Bears are good, football's better.
It just is okay, And there's a really low bar.

(02:19:07):
They've never had a quarterback throw for four thousand yards.
They get that or thirty touchdowns. I love Jim McMahon.
If you didn't see Jim McMahon, show yourself out, check
out of the argument. I'm tired of hearing about Sid Luckman. Okay,
Jim McMahon could play. It was a different it was
a different league then. But trust me, McMahons, you know,
flung the ball around the lot at BYU and he
could pass. The Bears didn't need to with that forty

(02:19:28):
six defense. I love Jim McMahon. The bars low, they
say in Chicago because they don't have prolific throwers, but
you better win. Now back to Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes had
all the intangibles, and he got to sit behind Alex
Smith for a year in Andy Reid's system. And Patrick
Mahomes was the son of former Major League baseball pitcher
Pat Mahomes, spent a lot of time in major league

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clubhouses growing up, had the big league mentality, an incredibly
well grounded kid, checks every box. So you're comparing Kayleb
Williams to Patrick maho Holmes because of his ability to
work off script and out of structure. You're not gonna
get to do that as much in Chicago. I don't
think you're gonna get to do it Harley at all.
And he had a pressure to sack ratio, which wasn't great.

(02:20:11):
He turned the ball over a little bit more, tried
to play a little hero ball. He's gonna have to
clean up his decision making. But when you're drafted number
one overall, you got the weight to the world on
your shoulders. And I don't like what he did earlier,
texting the punter, You're not gonna have to punt much.

Speaker 1 (02:20:25):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:20:27):
Okay again, I hope I am dead wrong, dead wrong.
But when you line up Kayleb Williams, Drake May, Jadeen Daniels,
JJ McCarthy, Michael Pennix and bow Nicks. When you juxtaposed
expectations versus what might actually happen and the situations you're

(02:20:47):
going into, I think, and again, I hope I'm dead wrong.
Kayleb Williams has the best chance in his group to
earn the label bust. Prove me wrong. I'll be the
first to admit, and I'll be glad to do it.
Just my opinion, is Dennis Miller want to say, of course,
it's just my opinion. I could be wrong coming out

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Chris Perhfet's World of Soccer. But first go back to
a guy, the chef, Kevin Wyant.

Speaker 6 (02:21:12):
With the latest NBA playoff action on Saturday, the Lakers
extend their season. They stay alive in their first round
series against the dever Nuggets, winning it on their home
court one nineteen to one away behind twenty five points
and twenty three rebounds from Anthony Davis. Denver' still ahead
in the series, however, three games to one. The Thunder

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ahead in their series three games to nine after they
beat the New Orleans Pelicans one oh six eighty five.
The Boston Celtics lead their series two to one after
an easy win in Miami one oh four eighty four,
The Magic a dominant win against the Cavaliers one twelve
eighty nine, so that series now tied at two games
a piece. Some injury news. Yannis doubtful four Sunday's game

(02:21:55):
between the Bucks and Indiana Pacers. He's dealing with a
string calf that is a side him at least the
past couple of games, and Damian Lillard's been seeing in
a walking boot, at least he was on Saturday, he's
been dealing with a strain Achilles injuries. Also doubtful for
Sunday's game. Kawhi Leonard listed as questionable with a knee
inflammation knee injury. Has been dealing with knee inflammation and

(02:22:18):
questionable for that game. Against the Dallas Mavericks NHL Stanley
Cup Playoffs, they go to overtime in a couple of
the games today, and each team getting their first win
in overtime, Dallas Stars making it a two to one
series by beating Vegas three to two, and the Islanders
making it a three to one series lead for the
Carolina Hurricanes. They avoid elimination by winning it three to

(02:22:40):
two in double overtime and the Tampa Bay Lightning six
to three win over the Florida panthersday it is still
Florida though, on top in that series three games to one,
and with the NFL Draft concluding on Saturday. Just an
interesting note that the last quarterback taken before Spencer Ratler
was selected in the fifth round by the same was
Bo Nicks at twelve overall in the first round, so

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it was the longest gap between quarterbacks taking in the
draft in NFL history. Jordan Travis of Florida State going
to the Jets, Washington signing undrafted quarterback Sam Hartman and
Cold signing undrafted quarterback Keaton Slovas.

Speaker 2 (02:23:17):
Back to you, Bernie, all right, chef mother bafo performance tonight. Well,
we're just less than ninety days away from the Paris
Olympics and soccer will be back on the international stage.
But we don't need that to report on it, because
whether it's on the field or off the field, in
season or on a season, there is always news to report.

(02:23:40):
And I gotta tell you can't listen to the Leicester
story without a little bit of a twinkle in your eyes.
Why we bring you this time every week we bring
you Chris profets World of Soccer.

Speaker 13 (02:23:55):
The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the International drum.

Speaker 8 (02:24:07):
Poli.

Speaker 3 (02:24:11):
It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

Speaker 14 (02:24:14):
Well, it took a little bit of searching, Bernie, but
it looks like Liverpool has there a man lined up
to replace Jurgen Klop when the man retires here at
the end of the season. Liverpool has been very popular
in America, one of those teams that just screams Emeric
to Americans in a lot of ways, blue collar north

(02:24:36):
of the country. Everything about Liverpool just seems to attract
American fans. And I know many Americans among soccer fans.
I know who are Liverpool fans, so this story has
something of a lot of attention for me. Liverpool did
not fare well over this weekend in their pursuit of
a Premier League title, stumbling very badly in in the

(02:25:01):
Mercyside derby against longtime rivals Everton, which now puts them
about three points coming into the weekend behind the eight
ball on Arsenal, who clings a one point lead over
Manchester City. All those due to change his games get
played here on Saturday and Sunday. But the important thing
for Liverpool here is particularly in the mid term, not

(02:25:22):
as much in the short term where they still have
a season to go, is that they now have a
manager to replace Yurkin Club. Ar In Slought is his name.
He is, he was, or is until the end of
the year, the manager for the Dutch club at Feyanord,
a club that has kind of really come on under
his guidance and had quite a bit of impression to it.

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Faean Ord has been in the Europa Conference League final
in twenty twenty two, losing to Aroma, and that was
the first year of Slot's management at Fayanord, and then
in subsequent seasons would go on to win the Dutch
League title and the Dutch's KNVB Cup, all remarkable feats

(02:26:04):
for a club in a country, in a division really
that has been dominated for so long by ajas a
super club there in Amsterdam. Fan Nord out of Rotterdam
was able to carve out quite the place for themselves
under arn Slought. He has a bit of a job
coming in here. There's a lot of momentum still to

(02:26:26):
be maintained. If you are Liverpool, questions to be asked
about contracts for players like big time players like Mohammed
Sala and questions about the finances of the club, if
they can continue to spend and remain among the big
boys in England, not having the same pockets of say
a Manchester City, and yet nevertheless has had a lot

(02:26:47):
of success, but not often as much as their talent
should indicate. They have still of course the title under
Jurgen Klop and some Champions League's accolades, a lot of
stuff that I think at Jurgen Klop is well lauded for.
But if you're new coming in, if you're someone like
Arden Slot, the question is can you live up to
that legacy. It's a big one to lead up to.

(02:27:09):
And it sounds like Liverpool is also willing to be
giving out a lot of money looking for it, like
about live around twelve million dollars US according to the
rumors of what Liverpool would be paying Feyanord to get
their manager Slot with two years left on his contract
with the Dutch side staying in the Premier League. We

(02:27:31):
do have to welcome back Bernie old friends Leicester City.
They have secured promotion here this week. Coming into the
weekend and the Foxes will be returning to the Premier League.

Speaker 8 (02:27:43):
If you do recall they were.

Speaker 14 (02:27:45):
Relegated back in May of last year, so their removal
from the Premier League is not very long at all.

Speaker 11 (02:27:54):
Again, good to have them back.

Speaker 14 (02:27:56):
They are one of the surprises of Premier League history. Obviously,
of course, winning that title back in twenty sixteen at
the longest odds ever recorded for any kind of Premier
League club to win a Premier League title. And look,
it's a different team now. They leaned heavily on Jammie Vardi,

(02:28:16):
and Vardi is much older at this point. They have
some young players still there. I didn't even think that
they were really that bad enough to be relegated last year.
They just kind of got a bad luck of the
draw where it came to their points to several injuries
that they had sustained. I thought they were better than
the relegation zone last year. Leicester City hasn't clinched the

(02:28:39):
EFL Championship title. They could maybe do that here in
the coming weeks, but nevertheless, no matter what happens, they
have clinched promotion back to the Premier League, which is
ultimately the source of pride for Leicester City is to
be back among the big boys. And finally, Bernie, let's
turn our attention to Major League Soccer, where Into Miami
is going up to Foxborough on Sunday to play the

(02:29:01):
New England Revolution. This is kind of first in the
East against the last in the East, and it's really
much of it. It's really a news story here, mostly
because there was always questions whether the top European players
that Inter Miami has invested in, like Lionel Messi and
Luis Suarez, would play on an artificial turf like the
one they have at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough. This has

(02:29:25):
been kind of a point of contention for a lot
of players who've been coming over from Europe lately to
MLS following Lionel Messi. Artificial turf is usually not suitable
for soccer, even more so than it's not suitable for
American football in a lot of ways, but the injury
possibilities are amplified in soccer Inter Miami and Lionel Messi

(02:29:48):
and Lionel Messi did play on artificial turf earlier in
the year in Charlotte. However, it's always been wondered whether
Lionel Messi aging already having some injury concerns in the past,
should be playing on a surface that quite honestly, soccer
should just not be played on. And it continues a
question of how long it's going to take the National

(02:30:08):
Football League and their stadiums to realize they should probably
be using regular grass instead. But from a manager for
Inter Miami, Tata Martinoz shut down and he doubts about that. Said,
the players are available, those who healthy, are healthy will travel.
So we will wait and see if Lionel Messi and
lu Suarez will be playing on Sunday on artificial turf.

Speaker 2 (02:30:30):
Well, there you have it. By the way, I get,
I believe that game would be played at Gillette Stadium,
where the New England Patriots also have their home games.
Gotta love the story Leicester City. They're relegated, now they're promoted.
It's amazing. Every year you expect the unexpected, and of course,
back in twenty sixteen, six thousand to one, they win

(02:30:50):
the Premier League. No one saw that comment change the
way sportsbooks said odds forever trust me. Coming up, we
take a walk down memory lane. This isn't the first
time that six quarterbacks have been drafted in a single draft.
I know our good buddy Andy Furman will remember exactly
what I'm about to share with you a generation later.

(02:31:11):
The results are in and when you hear these names,
they're not only household names in what they accomplished on
the field, what they continue to do in reshaping the
league for a generation off the field. On Bernie Frattle
her Company live from the Las Vegas and Fox Sports
Radio Tirack dot COM's studios. So keep it locked right here.

(02:31:33):
You listened to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie
Frattle Show. We are comedy live from the Tarak dot
Com studios here in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio. Before
I go any further, I want to thank my broadcast team.
They are back in Los Angeles. Patrick Sweek had got

(02:31:55):
to the first hour as our executive producer, and Ian
Roddy to go from there the last three hours. Thank you,
and of course our man on the updates, Kevin Wyre
at the chef. Another baffo performance as always in Mark Ramsey,
our technical producer, a great job tonight. Guys could not

(02:32:17):
do the show without the teamwork and should be noted
the team nine for nine tonight on what My Name
another Baffo Baffo performance. I of course, will be back
on these airwaves next Friday, May third, at eleven pm
Pacific for the Friday Show, followed by the Saturday Show,

(02:32:37):
also at eleven pm Pacific. There will be plenty to
talk about. There always is. So we just finished the
NFL draft, and Friday two days ago was April twenty sixth,
forty one years ago to the day Friday, April twenty sixth,
nineteen eighty three. They were Also there was also a

(02:32:57):
run on quarterbacks, as that was the the of the
now legendary nineteen eighty three NFL Draft, which I know
my good buddy Andy Furman will remember well. So speaking
of record quarterback halls, which we just saw Thursday night
six in the first twelve picks the start of the
nineteen eighty three drafts well, it featured a complete epic

(02:33:21):
run on guys who would become star passers. John Elway
went number one to the Colts. Now you remember what
happened there which created the argument with you know, Mel
Kuiper and John Elway's dad and the Ursay family. He said,
don't draft this now. He got nothing. And John Elway
actually went and played a year in Oneonta short season

(02:33:45):
rookie ball. You know, he had actually played basketball. Baseball.
Stafford George Steinbner liked him, actually brought him into an
off one day, projected him as the right fielder in
nineteen eighty five. Look, let's not go down that road.
The bottom line is, you know, Lway ended up with Denver, right,
but he was drafted number one overall. That's what the
record was going to show by the Colts. Then right

(02:34:06):
after that, Todd Blackledge out of Penn State was drafted
by the Chiefs, followed by Jim Kelly the Buffalo Bills,
And of course says, you know, Jim Kelly had signing
with the Houston Gamblers of the USFL, the legendary USFL
that was so good back in the mid eighties that
the year after the league folded, one hundred and thirty
six players the very next year found their way on

(02:34:29):
the NFL roster, as many became Hall of famers, including
Jim Kelly. So you start with John Elway, Todd Blackledge,
Jim Kelly, followed by Tony Easton out of Illinois, who
went to the New England Patriots. Now Easton was not
a Ham and egger either. He actually helped get the
Patriots to the super Bowl. They lost in Super Bowl
twenty to the Chicago Bears and Buddy Ryan's forty six defense.

(02:34:51):
But Tony Easton had some success. Kenny O'Brien out of U. C.
Davis surprised with a lot of people, but he went
to the New York Jets. It was a serviceable starter
for the New York Jets. And then finally, last, but
not least certainly the first man to ever throw for
five thousand yards in professional football, Dan Marino went to
the Miami Dolphins. He had to wait. He was the

(02:35:11):
sixth quarterback drafted overall that year and never won a
Super Bowl, went to one Super Bowl, set all kinds
of passing records, and in retrospect, I think Dan Marino
really benefited by falling that far because number one expectations
were thwarted, not as many expectations when you're the last

(02:35:31):
guy drafted in the first round versus in terms of
the quarterbacks ranked ahead of him. Didn't you go to
Miami who'd been to the Super Bowl the year before?
They got a Super Bowl roster, and he got Don
Chulo right that group overall, by the Way Elways rights
again I just mentioned, were traded to Denver sixteen year
playing career there. But this group shaped the league for
nearly a generation. Eleven of the next sixteen AFC teams

(02:35:55):
in the Super Bowl were quarterbacked by one of the
signal callers I just mentioned, and Elway, Marino, and Kelly
each made it to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Can you imagine of three of the six quarterbacks that
were drafted Thursday night make it to the Hall of Fame. Now,
the NFL has since shifted to a much more greater
passing centric offensive culture, all right, And I think a

(02:36:18):
lot of it had to do with the prolific passing
arms of the John Elways and the Jim Kellys and
the Dan Marinos. I truly believe that, not only that,
it wasn't just what these guys did on the field,
and they went a long way in making the NFL
a more favorable TV product. And it wasn't just on

(02:36:39):
the field, because the business impact of this draft, this
epic draft back in nineteen eighty three, includes many other
notable things, including John Elway later became the president of
football operations for the Denver Broncos and even crafted another
Super Bowl winner as an executive when he brought in
Peyton Manning nine years ago. Dan Marino served as an

(02:37:00):
advisor to the Dolphins. He also had a lengthy run
as a broadcaster, became a household name, and who can
forget Dyson tone or gloves. Of course, Todd Blacklitch has
become one of the NBC Sports top college football announcers.
The truth of the matter is this draft class was
so prolific. They were chronicled on ESPN in one of
their thirty thirty documentaries entitled Lway to Marino. It's one

(02:37:24):
of the best of the documentaries. I suggest you watch it.
So yeah, there were six quarterbacks drafted, but they got
a tough act to follow. That'll do it for the
Bernie Froters Show, Keep It Locked Up Next, They're great.
Andy Furman, Fox Sports Radio,

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