Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes talk Celtics and Anthony Edwards!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
We may have a longer break between the conference finals
and NBA Finals than an actual NBA offseason. Celtics are
about to get out the brooms. They'll try to tomorrow night.
We'll look back at last night and then tonight a
big Game three where the Mavericks could take an overwhelmingly
huge lead on the Minnesota Timberwolves, or the Wolves could
fight back and show some life and get back into

(00:27):
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The Dallas Mavericks are being praised for the moves that
they made at the trade deadline carry roads. But in

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twenty minutes you will tell us the real reason why
Dallas is two wins away from the NBA Finals. But
we start in Indianapolis. Game three last night, Pacers Celtics,
a game where the Pacers led a majority of the
way pretty much from start to finish until the actual finish,
when Boston ends up taking the lead in the final minutes,

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Pacers blow an eighteen point lead played without Tyre's Halliburton
and Boston on the shoulders and the hands of Drew Holiday,
especially in those final couple of plays, end up getting
a one to fourteen, one to eleven victory, Boston up
three to zero in the series, and in a game
where we figure that they were going to win, this

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wasn't necessarily the fashion that I thought that they were
going to win. But in the end, Boston's went away
from the NBA Finals. Yeah, this game had trouble written
all over it, with them saying Halliburton being now obviously
the level of concentration, attention, attention to details, and literally

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having that killer instinct. I knew that would be an
issue in this game once I saw he was out.
Boston played with their food way too much this game.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
They found a way to win down the stretch because
they're the a better team. But again, it's kind of
it kind of always lends its hands to the same
questions and same concerns for us when it comes to Boston, Right,
will they be able to play well enough long enough
to win the NBA Finals. They've gotten there, they've getting

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to the conference finals, They've shown flashes of really brilliant
basketball obviously throughout the year, the best record, all the things,
but it always sends us down that same path if
they can get it done. And so they were able
to win this one and they're going to sweep Indiana,
but it's just so much call to concern with this same.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Do you think that we know who the Boston Celtics are?
I don't know. I don't think that we do. I
don't know. And this is like in going forward, if
Christaps porzingis yes, your buddy ends up making it back.
We obviously feel that the Celtics are going to be
in a much stronger pause position. But I don't know

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if we've learned anything from these first three series. I mean,
I mean, in a series where Jimmy Butler wasn't available
for the Heat, here's gonna be a theme. I mean,
everybody's talking about it. You know, Donovan Mitchell ends up
getting dinged up for the Calves. I don't think that
ended up meaning anything in the end. And now you
have Tyre's Halliburton hurt for the Pacers, which by the way,
this is a six seeded Pacers, It's not the second

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seat of Dicks, who, by the way, wouldn't have had
Jalen Brunton available if they would have won that game
seven exactly. And who knows if the third seed, the
Milwaukee Bucks would have even have gotten to this point
and what Giannis's status would have been moving forward as
he was unavailable to them. It's just been an absolute
mess in the Eastern Conference. So in terms of like

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talking about where Boston is right now, I think it's
difficult to do. But I mentioned the Bucks, and that's
the thing, and it was so on display last night
of when I look back and I look at that team.
Here you have the Milwaukee Bucks trying to figure out

(04:03):
a way to shake things up to try to go
and repeat or try to get back to the NBA
Finals and win a title like they did in twenty
twenty one. Dorian, this is not a Milwaukee Bucks topic,
but it is the trade of Damian Lillard that set
up a team to win an NBA title. But that
team was the Boston Celtics. Yeah, you know, and like
in terms of when we look at these dominoes that

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fall and we're going to talk about the MAVs and
talk about those deals. Like, truly, if you look at
where Boston wins the series, even if they end up
not coming through last night, if Holliday doesn't get you know,
the three point play and the steal on Nemhard, if
he doesn't get any of that, I still think they
probably win the series in five games. But it magnified

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last night. Like what his addition did is Milwaukee had
to get rid of Drew Holliday to make room for
Damian Lillard, which they thought was the right move at
the time, and then you know gets released what by
Portland and then picked up by the Celtics, and that
was the other piece then that came in because when

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you have enough scoring around him, with Tatum, with Jalen Brown,
with a healthy Porzingis, and obviously the emergence of Derek
white Is, you know, made it even even less of
a requisite that Drew Holliday be that score. Like when
we look at all the moves that are made, and
if Boston makes the NBA Finals and ends up winning

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the title, it's giving me the Damian Lillard trade that
I think wins it for Boston because of how important
Drew Holiday spent for them.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Of course, And then you get a guy like Jew
Holliday in your system. Obviously, in his past and his heyday,
he can give you twenty twenty a night. He's been
an All star doing that. But again, you get a
guy like you just said, you get Jew Holiday into
that system. He plays his role, and his role there
isn't the score, you know, so to speak. He plays defense.

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He's a floor leader, floor general. Perfect guy for that.
I mean just his character alone. When you see him,
he just looks like a steady enforce and he gives
that off all the time. And so to have that
presence and to also have that presence with the accolades
and already winning an NBA championship, he has the pedigree.

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So when things do get rough or the game does
get a little up and down murky, and you know,
the situation becomes a little tense for guys that haven't
done it before, haven't been there. To have a guy
like that that can do that for you, steady the ship,
make the big plays down the stretch to win your game.
That's all you can ask for it. And you think

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about who they had before. Marcus Smart similar, but doesn't
have that championship pedigree, right, and so to have that
pedigree helps a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Here he's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer. It is Fox
Sports Sun. They hit him up at Kerry twenty five Roads.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. At
the start of the series, I told you, I don't
think we said this on the show last week because
I feel the series is just starting that point. Well, yeah, yeah,
because it was game yeah, the Game sevens that were
last week. It was Championships Sunday Championships on Fox Sports

(07:08):
Radio exactly. You said if the Pacers win, Pacers will
get one game against Boston. That's it. Now. I said,
I thought that they could win two games.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Then you said game seven You said something like Boston
to give them one, and that could have been the one.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like I said, Boston would give them one. Yeah, and
and I thought that Rick Carlisle would win them one.
But if they if without Tyree Tyre's Halliburton, that is
I feel like I'm I'm exempt from sticking to my
pick because I think Indiana could have won last night.
And let's also be honest, is we're trying to We're

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trying to get a sense of who the Boston Celtics are,
and even if Kristaps Porzingis does come back, you do
have to question how much of a contribution you could
actually make. For sure. This is a Pacers team that
had a three point lead with ten seconds left in
Game one, ended up throwing it away on a bad
turnover and a huge shot by Jalen Brown. This is

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a Pacers team that led by eighteen in the second
half without their best player last night. So there's this,
there is this true jury still out on the Boston Celtics,
and I think that you can even take these examples
and don't I don't think that they learn from this carry.
I think this is who they are. And so when

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if they were to go on and face Dallas, so
they would go on to face Minnesota whoever. We assume
Boston's gonna make it to the NBA Finals. But if
you get to that point, it's I don't know how
you don't pick the team from the Western Conference for
the simple fact of it's not just of who the
Celtics have beaten and who they haven't had. It has

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been the momentary lapses like most of Game three last night.
I mean, they're really They played really well on the
defense for about fourteen minutes of that game, and that's
and that was enough to be the Tyrese Halliburton led
Indiana Pacers team. You're not going to be able to
do that against either of the opponents of the Western Conference.

(09:12):
They won't. But the crazy part about Boston for me is.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
When they're at their best, and we don't see that
all the time, but when they're their best, and they're
they're top and they're at their top tier effort and
they're doing everything right and everything's clicking. They're top five
in both categories offense and defense. So it's not one
of those things where they have to outscore you or
they need to be in a slow, grind out game.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
They can beat you in any way.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
And so the only concern I have right now with
Boston if they go to the finals is yes, we
don't know who they are, that's the big question. But
we do know who they are when they're their best.
And the only concern I have is the Porzingist thing.
If he's not if he doesn't get some type of
run in and get in shape here and get in
the game. I know people are talking about keep him

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out if he's healthy for Game four because they'll be
ready for the finals. I understand the thinking of that,
but you need to play as well. So if he's ready,
he needs to play. So I'm worried about that.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's not only for him, for everybody else around him
to figure out how you're going to manage this, you know,
And maybe the most important guy last night for Boston
outside of the plays that Drew Holiday made, was a
couple of plays that Drew Holiday made Al Horford in.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
The seven seven.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'll tell you talk about an underrated career, yeah, in
terms of and when he shows up and what he's done.
Member of those really good Hawks teams for a while
back to back in Florida, obviously. Yeah, that's yeah, so
that you know, Yeah, I was getting to getting to
that point, and it's been quite a quite a run
for Al Horford and stepping up when the Celtics needed

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him the most last night. He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Beyer.
Doug Gottlieb on the Doug Gottlieb Show that I worked
with on weekdays here on Fox Sports Radio has a
line where he goes, feels like this one's kind of over.
I think he said that after Game one of this series,
and I was like, I don't think he's right to
used Gottleib's words. Now feels like this one's kind of over?

(11:15):
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to the Dallas Mavericks. We'll find out tonight. Carry Rhodes
tells us next the real magic beyond the Mavericks. Hit
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Maverick's up two to oh hosting the Minnesota Timberwolves tonight
in Game three of their series. I don't want to

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say to to pull back the curtain. I don't want
to give any caveats. You are a Mavericks fan though,
right like this is this is you know a lot
of what you say will be true. But I do
feel like it is necessary for the listener to let
them know that you are a fan of the Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Don't put that caveat out there, Dan, what are you doing?
I'm just I'm just saying, because you're about to heep
a whole bunch of praise on a team that, again
is two wins away from the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Okay, yeah, So I just want everybody to know how
special this team is and how how great they've been
since they all start breaking.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I think all those things are true. Now.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I do have an affinity for them because I am
a Dallas Maverick fan, but I think outside of that,
when you watch this team play, you have to understand
the dynamic of what they're doing and how they're doing it. Right,
their whole identity was offense before before they all start breaking.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
They came after they all star break. They made too.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
They made a trade which changed the makeup of their
whole team. They bring in PJ. Washington, They're bringing Daniel Gafford.
They get bigger, They get more athletic, and that's part
of their new makeup. They playing defense now, and once
a team starts to play defense, that way, their stars
have to buy in. Their stars buy in. People said,
Luca Kyrie can't play defense. They both the two ball dominant,

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they can't make it work. I think all that has
been put the rest. I think the reason this team
has won is the dynamic between those two superstars, Luca
and Kyrie. Kyrie has been, you know, considered a problem
that most places he's been after his Cleveland days, and
I think some of that is warranted, warranted it right,

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But for him to reinvent himself and go into a
situation with another superstar and fit and do the things
essential to win, to help a team win, it's just
been way more than admirable. I think it's been like
it's just been such a beautiful surprise to see for
him later in his career, the way he's fit in there.
And I think that's the reason they've won. There's a
real affinity between those two superstars. You can see them

(15:18):
embracing after games, you can see them helping each other up,
and I don't know if some of that is for
us and for the cameras to see. But it looks
like it's a real deal. And I love that about
what this team has become. And now they're two wins
away from competing at the ultimate level in the NBA Championship.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I think I think it's one hundred percent genuine. And
I also say this, and I was doing it jokingly
in a way, that you're a Mavericks fan, but I
also that tells you two things. Number one, that you've
seen a lot of Mavericks basketball this season. But also
number two, I also think that there are two types
of fans. Of the fans who think that their team
is way better than they really are, and then there's
fans who think that their team is not nearly as

(15:56):
good as everybody else is saying. I always, I can
always and the negative in the in the teams that
I like, in the teams that I follow, but the
you know, the Kyrie just him and the conversation. We
even touched on this a little bit last week, and
if you missed it, just more about in free agency
of there was actually a dilemma on where he would go,
not because of all of the options he had, it

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was because of the lack of options that he had,
and so, like, I don't want to say that Dallas
fell into him because that was not the case, but
it was just the fact of here's a scenario where
Dallas seems to be the only, the only spot that
he can really go, especially after you know they swing
the deal to end up bringing him in. There's there's
a lot to that they are. They are on a

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hot streak because it's not only gafferd and PJ. Washington,
it's Derek Lively and the tanking that allowed them to
get Derek Lively, you know, and to to keep their
top ten picks, so they were able to make that
draft pick the trade before. Like they have. They have
hit on everything, and it doesn't hit on everything if

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Kyrie and Luca don't work together all of that, Like,
it doesn't matter how good Daniel Gafford did is. It
doesn't matter how good PJ. Washington is. It doesn't matter
that they drafted Derek Lively. If Luca and Kyrie are
not on the same page, none of this is happening.
None of it works.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
And for them to in such a short amount of time,
it's still not even two full years yet that they've
been in the same building working together, right, and so
for them to genuinely start, I mean they genuinely like
each other and you can see it. I mean they're
doing press conferences together, you know, the other speaks about
the others so glowingly and which it's it's it's charming

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to see and so yeah, man, it's it's been crazy.
But I also want to give a little credit to
Jason Kidd as well a lot of coaches in that situation,
with him being a point guard, both of those guys
being essentially point guards. To have that relationship as well
and to see the game from the eyes of another
point guard and know how to kind of stack those

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minutes of being aggressive and knowing when to be aggressive,
knowing when not to be aggressive. I think a lot
of that goes to Jason Kidd as well.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
You also have a guy in Kyrie Irving who once
said they didn't need a coach exactly in Brooklyn. And
that's here's the thing with Kyrie and I have. I
have loved Kyrie's game for so long and he's always
been in my top four. If you're playing one on one,
I want him on my team. I don't care that
he's not six ' ten or six eleven. He will

(18:32):
score on anybody, and and it is he truly is
an unbelievably skilled basketball player. And it's it's proving itself again.
But what ended up clouding it? I think we're a
couple of things. There were Obviously his COVID situation was
one of them. There's also on how he handled things

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in the bubble and not wanting the team to play.
There was his time in Boston that didn't go over well.
And then when actually things were good in Brooklyn for
the small time that they were, he and Kevin Durant
were getting swept by the Celtics two years ago in
the playoffs, and then in the series where they had

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in the year prior against the Bucks, he ends up
getting hurt and that kind of derails where they are
they would have won that series probably, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that's I think that's fair to say. So
you have all these things, you have all these boxes,
and you realize that you know, Carrie's been in the
league for a decade, but you nobody's ever going to

(19:38):
forget the shot in twenty sixteen. But there were so
many things that were also going on since that point,
on the court and off the court, and I just
mentioned a bunch of them. Yeah that you get away
from how good of a player you know he truly is.
And then to see what he said, and I believe

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it was at the end of Game one when he
was talking with inside the NBA and he said, like
Charles asked him, like, you need to be a leader,
and he said that sitting home last year and not
being in the playoffs, not being in the postseason was
kind of a wake up call. So he even admits himself,
it's not everyone else's fault or it's not that the

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world is flat, it's not you know, like, it's not
like we shouldn't play. He's accepting responsibility of where they
are and where they weren't, which was in the postseason.
And again it was better for them to not make
the play in tournament and go to the playoffs, then
they could keep their first round pick. They added Derek
Lively and he has been he's been really good for them.

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But it's also Kyrie admitting, like I need to become
a leader, and that change in the last year or so.
And I think that's why you've got Dallas now. Two
wins away from the NBA Finals. Yeah, it's a great
thing to be humbled, right, I think we all need
to be humble. Ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I don't No, I don't think he was humbled.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
You don't think he was humbled. I think he just
grew up that part as well. Yeah, you know, like
I think there's a difference because there's because you know,
you'd be humbled if you were swept by the Celtics
in twenty twenty two, like he and Kevin Durant work.
They were both great in the series, but they had
nothing else around them. There's there's there're numbers. I think
they were both scoring in thirty five a game, but
the nets are only scoring eighty as a team, Like

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it was.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
You know, I think it was sort of that thing.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I just think that he grew up, like at some
point you all, like I think everybody gets to that
point where you're just like, okay, it's time to be
an adulter in this case, time to be a leader.
And I think that's where I think that's where he got.
So I don't think I don't think he was humbled
by the losing. I think he was probably had a
realization that all right, I'm now now where he is

(21:48):
in the league again, He's now a decade well into
the league. Yeah, so this is this is his role,
his opportunity.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, I think the when I say humble in the situation,
I don't mean humble by the losing. I mean humbled
by life and experience. No, sure, okay, yeah, that's what
I mean. Yeah, And so there's a level of getting
knocked down in real time, and especially for a pro
athlete like that who's obviously being monitored and watched a

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lot of their lives and a lot of their time
during the day, so the mistakes that they make are
in real time and we see them, whereas a normal
human being that's not in the spotlight every day has
those same things happening and go through the same experiences,
but people don't know about them, right, And so for
your information to be made public like that, you have
to be aware of it.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
And if you don't give.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
The respect to being in that public spotlight and creating
it and creating the atmosphere that this thing is not
just about me, it's not just about what I feel.
Because if you think that you're going to say some
of the things that he says, and people are going
to take it the way they take it. There's a

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there's a situation where if you're humble with that and
understand that the perspective is bigger than mine, then you
can change the course of how you respond and hy
to wack to certain things.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
And that's kind of what I mean about it. I'll
also say this because the conversation is there. You hear
it on the broadcast talking about this is the greatest
offensive backcourt that we've seen in the history of the NBA,
and the reason the reason for it is Kyrie's change.
And the reason I say that is because I think
it would have been difficult when you talk about offensively

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and who they are, and maybe it's how these two
play off of each other, but I just think it
would be difficult to find a better one than James
Harden and Kyrie Irving, Right Like when you think of
like of what they actually do and what they did,
but at no point did we ever even think of
that because of how they did or didn't play well together,

(23:53):
how things did or didn't go well in Brooklyn there, Like,
there's the positions that they actually played. But if you're
to find two offensive. You know, the two of the
best offensive players of the past twenty years in their
individual games, I think you would have to put James
Harden in that conversation just didn't work in the team aspect.
Now it's working with Luca and we see what Luca does.

(24:15):
Leads a league in scoring, and is is great and
it is better than what it would be. But we
didn't even have that conversation, Like it wasn't even a
thought process. And maybe we're just prisoners of the moment now,
but it's really tough to argue considering how good those
two have been.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Dan, let me ask you a question really quickly, the
uh that question, that backcourt question.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Who do you think do you have? Do you have
uh all time favorite? I was I was running, like
I was thinking about it last night and I'm like, who, Like,
is there anybody that that I could, you know, put
up against it? Yeah, And I do think like and
I'm and I'm thinking championship teams, you know, I'm trying
to think Stephen Clay was the obvious other one that

(24:57):
was brought up, Yeah, in terms of and I think
that's very fair. But I think the funny thing about
that is Staph could get knocked on this defense, but
clayon Clay was was magnificent on defense. So when you're
just talking straight offense, not that they weren't, like obviously
Curry's transcending what he's done in the game, and Clay

(25:18):
pretty darn good in his own right. Yeah, that would
that would that would be the one that would I'd
probably stack up.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Why does Clay not get enough attention now because of
how bad he is now or how far how far
he fell off the cliff right now, or people don't
really think about him as being one of the best
two guards ever in theory, we know he's a good
two way to two guard, but do you think he's
what is he rank?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I know we're going off a lot. No, I'm fine
with it. I I I think it's I think it's difficult,
and I don't think he played in the shadow, but
of who Steph is to be along alongside that, like
like Joe Dumars is probably a way better player, and

(26:05):
we thought Joe Dumars is really good and locking up Jordan,
but then you're also playing next to Isaiah Thomas a
little bit like like, so there's there's some of that
like there's you know, Dumars has his moments, You're like, wow,
Joe Dumars. And I almost feel like it's the same
thing with Clay because then Steph goes and does his thing.
But that's that's kind of I would say, probably because
he and Steph have been on the same team. And

(26:28):
here Luca comes from one way and Kyrie comes from
the other way and they end up joining forces, and
we look at it. We've seen both their individual ground. Yes, yeah, yeah,
I think that's probably why we've done so. I don't
think it's as much as I think. I will say this,
I do think that we will appreciate Klay Thompson more
and more, uh over the years for what he's done.

(26:50):
I could be completely wrong about that. Maybe we'll go
and forget what he's done. But defensively, I mean, there's
he's better than all, you know, all three of the
other guys that we're talking about. He's carry I'm Dan Byer.
Let's jump over to the news desk, guys, he glowing
crown is giving us the latest, and then we'll talk
about somebody who is not happy in the WNBA.

Speaker 8 (27:10):
What's going on, Isaac, Good morning, Dan and Good morning
to you, Carrie. We start in golf, where today the
parents of two time PGA Tour winning golfer Grayson Murray,
who died yesterday morning at the age of thirty, issued
a statement through the PGA Tour announcing that his cause
of death was by suicide. Eric and Terry Murray said

(27:32):
in the statement, quote, although he took his own life,
we know he rushed peacefully. Now please honor Grayson by
being kind to one another. If that becomes his legacy,
we could ask for nothing else.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Unquote.

Speaker 9 (27:47):
We have two Major League Baseball games going on right
now in Detroit. The Tigers have a four to nothing
lead over the Toronto Blue Jays headed to the bottom
of the third inning. Tigers scored all four in the
bottom of the second on a two run double by
Hobber Bias and a two run single by Andy Ebanyez.
Coming up about ten minutes from now, the green flag
drops on the greatest spectacle in racing, one hundred eighth

(28:10):
running of the Indianapolis five hundred. Scott McLaughlin holds the
pole position. Coming up today at three pm Eastern in
the Stanley Cup Playoffs, Game three of the Eastern Conference Finals,
from Florida with the Panthers and New York Rangers tied
at one win apiece. Then tonight at eight pm Eastern,
Game three of the NBA's Western Conference Finals from Dallas,

(28:30):
with the Mavericks up two games to none over the
Minnesota Timberwolves. Dan and carry back to you.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Thank you very much, Isaac. It is Fox Sports Sunday
as we're a lot forth Tirech dot Com studios hit
carry up at Carrie twenty five ro olds. You can
find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Superstar Dad says,
I disagree with you. Carrie A by Irie and Luca
can score in their sleep. They were doing this last year.
The difference now is you can't score on Dallas. Their

(28:56):
bigs are too physical, too bouncy on defense in Lobbs
City type threats on offense.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Oh no, I agree with that. I think we were
just talking about the main reason why they're winning. It's
the chemistry between their two stars, and I think I
think that's accurate.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
So, yeah, if there was, if it was oil and water,
it doesn't matter how bouncy Daniel Gafford or PJ. Washington
is and and yeah they wouldn't they wouldn't beat two
wins away from the NBA Finals, but they they they
did add they did add something to it, for sure.
I always look at things in ways of of of

(29:34):
food and when you can end that little bit of spice,
you know, whether it be salton pepper to make something
taste a little bit better. Maybe maybe under selling the
role of Daniel Gafford and and PJ. Washington, but I
think that could be a similar case of what you
got with. You know, if you mess up the mashed potatoes,
no matter how good that salton pepper is or the butter,

(29:56):
the mashed potatoes are still going to stick like it's
still yeah, it's not going to work. But these are nice,
creamy whipped mashed potato, right yeah, nah, go down smooth.
I think everyone is getting fed up with talking about
Caitlin Clark. I do think WNBA players for a while
were fed up. But we had heard everybody is weighing

(30:19):
in on the Indiana Fever guard who got their first
win of the season on Friday night against the Los
Angeles Sparks. But Saturday night, the Fever ended up playing
in Las Vegas against the Aces took another l but
it was Prior to that that Aces head coach Becky
Hammon made headlines as she had a little bit of
a presser with Asia Wilson next to her talking about

(30:43):
the Caitlin Clark drama and what surrounded the superstar from
Iowa coming to the NBA. Here's Ace's head coach Becky
Hammon earlier this week.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
We love Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 10 (30:55):
I think she's amazing. I watched every time I possibly
clear in our league.

Speaker 11 (31:00):
Love her.

Speaker 10 (31:00):
This has nothing to do We're just doing our job.
We're gonna show up. What's effort on the other team
is on the other team, We don't really care.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
We're gonna show up and do us.

Speaker 10 (31:10):
And so I think this narrative of like everybody, everybody
hating on Katelyn Clark and even the black and white thing,
knock it off. It's not there. So shut down the noise.
And by the way, what is she twenty two? She's
a twenty two year old woman with a lot of pressure.
She's not perfect. She's a rookie in this league, like

(31:32):
back off, back going and.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Growing just like everyone else.

Speaker 12 (31:34):
I feel like that's what people don't give her a chance.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
This is growth.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
We tell our rookies every single day.

Speaker 9 (31:39):
This is new.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
You're coming into a full another new world.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's starting over.

Speaker 13 (31:43):
So it's the questions are only annoying because it's like
she's young.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
She's a rookie.

Speaker 13 (31:48):
I keep asking us these questions as if she's a
grown ass woman that's been in this league for years.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Like, no, she's doing her job. We're doing ours and
at the end of.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
The day, that's how we grow. It is when we
get better and you do things like that.

Speaker 13 (31:58):
So yeah, I'm just exact sit over the conversation because
I know she's exhausted.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I can't only imagine.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
And so far as the charters and that I don't
care if Kermit the Frog made the change, have you been.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Fighting for this?

Speaker 10 (32:10):
I mean, I've played in this league at ninety nine
and we were traveling the same way, and I'm like
I said, I don't really care who's bringing this or
who's bringing the crowds. What I care is that they're
there and they're on eyes and they see how great
women's basketball is.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
That's what I care about.

Speaker 10 (32:25):
And that's a mic drop.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Okay, all right. I don't know if we were coming
from the same place, but I felt like we had
the same energy. I think as players and obviously as coaches,
they're asked about it so much or they see what's
going on. I don't know if Becky Ammond was really
truly coming to Caitlyn Clark's defense in all of this
is as much as she just wanted to stop talking
about Caitlyn Clark and I don't And what happens is

(32:51):
I think she's She's obviously frustrated with where the discourse
is gone. And Angel Wilson was so frustrated she dropped
twenty nine to fifteen last night, and Caitlin Clark had
just eight points, going two of eight from the floor
in twenty nine minutes. The way that Becky Hammond spoke,
you can feel the emotion, and I think that's how

(33:12):
a lot of us are feeling when it comes to
this drama always surrounding Kitlyn Clark and the Indiana Fever
Star guard. Yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
It is draining and for her to literally have come
from a NCAA Championship final in less than a month,
maybe be playing professional basketball, and you know, expect it
to be the face of a franchise, in the face
of a league at twenty two. It's just not going

(33:42):
to happen, right, It's not going to happen instantly. I
don't care how good a player any of these players
are on any level. Once it comes to the pro game,
there's a right of passage, the right of passage that
has to happen. And right now she's going through that.
She's going through the bumps, bumps and the ebbs and
flows of coming a professional and being becoming a really
good professional. Let her give her the grace to do

(34:04):
that and stop anointing anointing her. And I know those
established WNBA players are tired of it as well, because
they've already done the work to be who they are.
So like, lay off that for a little bit. Angel
Reese had a tweet this week that was taken down.
She also said something yesterday that was very very interesting.
You're going to hear from Angel Rees and what she

(34:25):
had to say as she was also getting a taste
of the WNBA and why certain things and certain numbers
in sports don't really reveal what exactly they should reveal.
We're going to explain what that means. He's carry roads.
I'm Dan Byer.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's next here on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.
He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Bayer. As everybody is sick
of talking about Caitlyn Clark, we continue to here on
Fox Sports Radio. Hit him up, Carrie at Carrie twenty
five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.
Buddy Roy from Kentucky tweets in he feels that Kaitlyn

(35:00):
Clark talk crementium of the Jeremy Lynn phase of the NBA,
not that Linsanity wasn't great. I think this is a
bigger deal. I think it's lasted longer. It started brewing
in her early years in Iowa because we hadn't seen
women pull up from thirty five feet like Steph Curry.
And then it just took on a life of its

(35:20):
own when they upset South Carolina and then the first
National Championship Game and then all of last season. That's
when it's built up. So I do think that is
a little bit longer standing than the insanity era.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, the Lincanity era was actually it was. It was
pretty fun. I didn't get tired. I didn't get tired
of that situation. It was one of those ones where
it didn't last long enough for it to be irritating,
and obviously I was still I was still in New
York at the time, so I was there a lot,
so I actually see it and feel that energy there.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
It was, It was fun, it was infectious. Angel Reese
did take down a tweet earlier this week that appeared
to be critical of Caitlyn Clark. Angel Reese, there was
something that happened this past week that I'm gonna get
to in a second because it is connected with with
Caitlin Clark. But Angel Reese yesterday was fouled pretty hard

(36:10):
in their loss to the Connecticut son in a game
where angel Reese again was in double figures. This was
angel Reese after taking a hard foul after yesterday's loss.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's not just because I'm a rookie. I'm a player.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I'm a basketball player. They don't give a damn if
I'm a rookie.

Speaker 14 (36:26):
I mean, I want them to come at me every day.
I want them to come at everybody. I mean, they're
not supposed to be nice to me. I hope you
I know that they're not supposed to be nice to
meet or lay down because I'm Angel Rees or because
I'm a rookie. Like thank you eighty percent of the
message to me because I got back up and I
kept going with to and kept pushing like me and
at have been cool since we were I've been so
I know it's not no harpings, and I appreciate it

(36:46):
for going at me every day incident.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
How much do you think that that was directed at
all of the people who are I guess making excuses
for Caitlyn Clark or supporting Caitlyn Clark. Do you think
that those comments by Angel Reese had anything to do
about the conversations that we've had over the last week

(37:09):
and a half in the start of the w NBA season.
I don't think so, I won one hundred percent think so.
You think the reporter had phrased it in the question
of like as a rookie, and then she just started
to go off of like, no, that's not how it is.
I think it's one hundred percent. I think I think

(37:29):
that Angel Reyes should lean into the villain role in
terms of we're still talking, you know about her, and
she's had a good start to her WNBA career. But
I think that was one hundred percent directed at the
conversations about Kitlyn. Wow.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Do you think that I it might be, it might
be a veiled shot at it, but I think she's
also trying to identify herself and I think distinguish herself
from Caitlyn.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Clark, right.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I think that I think that could be a converse
surrounding that. For me, it's like they've been grouped together,
you know, because of what happened in their college days.
And obviously they tried to pit it as a rivalry,
which I mean they only played once twice, yeah, and
consecutive years back to back, and so they don't really
have a real history beyond that. So but being you know,

(38:21):
coming out in the same year, being in the same
draft class, they're going to be put together for a while,
and so I think she may be trying to distinguish herself.
But maybe maybe maybe you're right there. I didn't look
look at it that way, but maybe I should.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
There was a tweet sent out by Michelle Steele of ESPN,
and Michelle Steel does a does a great job, but
it was the wording of this tweet that that bothered me,
and it was the fact of it. I think that
we we all can sometimes tend to do this. But
the tweet was about Angel Reaes making your home debut yesterday,
which which what that sound bite was after after that

(38:55):
loss to the Connecticut Son and the tweet said, the
only player in this year's rookie class to score and
double digits in every game so far, Angel Reese is
maximizing her time in the WNBA and beyond. And this
is the part of it is that drives me crazy,
is what kind of status that that the only do

(39:18):
you know how many games that they played at that point?
They played three games, so we're three games and she
was the only rookie, Yeah, the only rookie in the
WNBA to score double digits in every game. Her high
was thirteen, like, so it wasn't like she had twenty
two and eighteen and twenty one. But it is an
indirect response to Caitlin Clark, who's had the roller coaster

(39:42):
twenty points eight points, you know, twenty points eight point like,
That's that's what it is in response to. So even
when people like there's a people may think that there's
an over correction in giving Caitlyn Clark the benefit of
the doubt, but there's also this other complete overc as
well in trying to say, look, we're not. We don't care.

(40:04):
It's not just only Caitlyn Clark. But then you're using
that sort of language to boost up everybody else. It's
such a weird dynamic. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I think those some of those players are definitely deserving
of the praise they're getting, and I think the undervalue
of some of the players outside of Caitlyn Clark is
probably an issue for them, and so they're going to
try to find any way they.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Can to get the other guys and other women involved.
It's cherry picking stats, and later on on the show
today we will cherry pick stats of one Carrie Rhodes.
He is Carrie Rhoads. I'm Dan Beyer. Coming up next,
it's time for Anthony Edwards to become a professional easy
as one, two, three, four, Another hot and fresh game
coming up in about twenty minutes or so here on

(40:46):
Fox Sports Radio. Also getting set for a game three
tonight between the Minnesota Timberwolves and Dallas Mavericks in the
Western Conference Finals. And it's time for Anthony Edwards to
put up or shut up, or maybe just grow up.
We're gonna get to that in a matter of seconds.

(41:06):
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get off my lawn guy, Carry Rhodes. I do not
want that at all. When people say that, that means
that's what they're saying, though, Dan, this is not the case.

(41:30):
Because I love what Anthony Edwards does on the court, yep.
And I think that Anthony Edwards is so unique, and
I think many other people have seen that so much
so that they were drawing comparisons to Michael Jordan. And
I don't know if those comparisons are really fair to

(41:50):
Anthony Edwards. In fact, they're not fair to Anthony Edwards.
But this is not me being a hater. This is
not me being a get off my lawn guy. This
is me being someone from a ways away in distance,
in seeing something in a player that is truly special,

(42:13):
in not wanting to see it go wasted. Okay, that's
where this is from. Okay, that's the point where I
am starting with all of this. Yeah, I sent you
a sweet as we go back and forth during these
NBA playoffs, and it was pointed out specifically by Dave
mcmahamon of ESPN, who said that during the time Anthony

(42:35):
Edwards was checked out of Game two in the fourth quarter,
from just under eight minutes to five and a half minutes,
he put on a face mask to receive oxygen in
the tunnel by the Minnesota bench. Right now, that may
seem like the guy is working. The guy is. The

(42:56):
guy is doing excuse me, what he needs to do,
and the guy is doing it on the offensive end,
and he's doing it on the defensive end. But at
the end of the game, when Anthony Edwards needed to
be there for his team, he was gassed, right He
was gassed in Game one. And so now you're saying

(43:17):
to yourself, how when you're in the Western Conference finals,
have you run out of gas? And I think it's very,
very important to realize the history of Anthony Edwards because
this is what I mean by grow up, and there's
a lot with Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards was reprimanded once
for making a homophobic slur on a video, apologized for

(43:41):
that last year at the end of the playoff lost
to the Denver Nuggets, ran off the court through a
chair in the tunnel. There was an incident following that
not bringing these up to be Gotcha's just telling you
that it's time to grow up. And one of the
biggest things that we fall in love with Anthony Edwards
that we probably shouldn't fall in love with Anthony Edwards

(44:03):
is Anthony Edwards talking about his love of certain foods.
This was from February of twenty twenty two. Anthony Edwards
about the start of press conference but instead would rather
talk about Ronald McDonald.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
What's that next?

Speaker 15 (44:21):
You?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Hello, y'all, don't ask no questions. Say, I'm trying to
put an order in McDonald's. There, what's what's hello?

Speaker 14 (44:30):
Hold?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I got one more named Cheeves? Oh hello, way crusts,
no ice?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Okay, there's there's Anthony Edwards ordering McDonald's mcchickens, Yes, chickens,
all right, Okay, yeah, don't worry. Uh uh this was uh.
This is Anthony Edwards a few years ago as well,
talking about the uh, the wonderful cuisine that I definitely
love Popeyes.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Do you have Popeyes?

Speaker 14 (44:59):
Aunt?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (45:00):
Man? I had frost they too.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
All right, So this this is Listen, everybody's laughing because,
guess what, it's funny. It's a young kid, but this
is also a team Timberwolves at the time that are
trying to make their way, trying to build up, make
the playoffs and have a run. Now it's a little different.
Now you're contending for the Western Conference and you're a

(45:31):
three seed in the Western Conference. Times are different now,
back then, it's funny. Funny.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yes, someone who wasn't.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Laughing last year when those comments were made about popeye'es
was Karl Anthony Towns.

Speaker 15 (45:41):
And was just telling us that he puts a lot
of this on him and he's got to be better
in back to backs that he has not done that
so far. Can you help him through that? Or just
is a a young player trying to figure out what
to do in this league and how to how to
answer the bell two nights in a row.

Speaker 11 (45:55):
I mean, you know, maybe I could do a better
job of teaching him how to take care of his body,
you know, dying everything. So I'll be on me. I
know y'all think it's funny up here when he talks
about pop Eyes and all that. You know that that doesn't.
That doesn't make me happy to hear. You know, we're
high level athletes, so you know I gotta work. I

(46:15):
got work too too. But also you know it falls
on me too. You know, throw cliche, you know it
falls on you. You know, everyone wants to take the blame,
but you know it's.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
All over it.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
So that was Karl Anthony Towns. Wow, yeah, weighing on
his teammate. That was last October. This is the previous season.
So this now is Anthony Edwards talking with GQ magazine
and a profile done with GQ about his love for
another stack another snack, Chester hot fries.

Speaker 13 (46:46):
I mean since I was probably like five years old,
I preferred these over eighty chips in the world, probably
like three days.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
You do the math?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Is that twenty one bags?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah? He probably more depending on how long I Okay,
So I started off as like, get off my lawn, guy,
now do you see where I'm coming from? When? And
and the point is is we laughed. I laughed at
all this. Yes, like gosh, he eats like me, you know,
like it's you know, like not twenty one bags of

(47:15):
Chester hot fries. I was like, okay, that's like but
he is a top, top level athlete. And even though
we've heard that Anthony Edwards has done better with his diet,
Rudy Gobert made some comments, you know, during the season
that that anth has gotten better. It's difficult for me

(47:37):
to forget that when he's getting oxygen during the timeout
or during when he's not in the game in the
fourth quarter because he's completely gassed. Like that is the point.
That is the point that I bring up of why
Anthony Edwards needs to now become a professional. And listen,
it's not going to happen in the next two weeks. No,
it has to happen this offseason, whether it's then being

(47:58):
around Tamosa or finding out this is the point. Your
team has arrived. You have arrived. Now is your time
to become that guy. That's why I say Anthony Edwards
needs to grow up become a professional. His personality is magnificent,
it truly is. And we laugh and we have fun,
but we're also laughing at what's your favorite Popeye's order?

(48:23):
You know, where do you rank their fries? Where you
know you get mcchickens and twenty one bags of Chester
hot fries a week, Like all of that is ha
ha ha, until you're gassed in the fourth quarter of
a must win game in the Western Conference Finals. That's
why I say about Anthony Edwards, it's time to become
a professional. Because what goat carry Roads do we look

(48:46):
at and say, you know what, they could have gotten
more out of their career, maybe maybe Tiger Woods without
the scandal and injuries. But you are never questioning his
work ethic. You're never questioning Michael Jordan's work ethic. You're
never questioning Lebron James's work ethic. You're never questioning Tom
Brady's work ethic. You are never questioning that if you're
gassed in the fourth quarter, like and now's the time,

(49:09):
by the way, like this is, you're still young in
your career, you're about to take off. That's why Anthony
Edwards needs to be a pro and Anthony Edwards needs
to grow up to become the great one that he
could possibly be.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, it's always you live by the sword, you die
by the sword. So the stuff that we respect about
him and admire about him, his openness, his candidness, it's great.
But in the same breath of those those words that
I just said about him, can be the reason that

(49:43):
we pick him apart as well. And so when you
talk about growth and talk about being starting to mature
and understand that, yes, we want you to be you
because that's what we fall in love with you about.
But you have to understand that people are laughing and
key King and Hahan with you in those moments, but

(50:05):
in the same breath they can use that against you.
And I think that is a part of growth, that's
a part of maturing, but also with his work ethic
and the stuff that he needs to do to become
a better player and have the energy and not be
gassed in these situations. A lot of that stems from
when he got there. That team didn't have anybody that
was a leader on that team or a guy that

(50:26):
you can be like a super vet where not to
have Mike Conley, a guy that's a strong voice in there.
You said you played the bit of Karl Anthony Townell
talking about it like people are starting to recognize that, yes,
this is funny, but you better understand that people will
talk about it like this and it's warranted it.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
It's not like a it's not a job.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
You're right, those things are out there because you said that,
and so understand that in the same breath word's cute,
it could be damaging to you. And so I think
he's starting to understand that as good as he looks
and as well conditioned as he looks, the stuff if
you're putting in your body, we'll damage and harm you.
And I know that coming in as a rookie, I

(51:05):
had a pro that taught me how to do that
right away in Curtis Martin. So like being able to
have those guys there to show you the ropes and
tell you, hey, I remember making fun of older guys
before the practice. I would see him over there warming
up and doing knee jerks and rolling their knees and
their bad I'm like, what are you doing, Let's go
play football. But he's like, all right, young fella. In

(51:27):
seven years, right, you're going to want to do that.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
There was a bunch of audio on, a great job
by our staff and Ian and Bo and Chris for
everybody putting that together. I didn't tell you what we
were all gonna play. You were a little surprised that
it kept going and going. So as a pro athlete,
there's a former pro athlete when you're hearing that When
did it stop being When did it that audio that
we just played? When did it stop being funny?

Speaker 11 (51:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (51:51):
The first one? Yeah, I'm done. Really Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
The rest of it's like, I think him trying to
be cute. So I don't know if it's I don't
even know if it's accurate, to be honest with you,
I think he's playing up to that, and so he
got to laugh and people thought it was funny, You're
cute the first time. So now it's oh, I'm sell
you what else I can do and I can go
ahead and drop forty on you, which it makes him

(52:15):
seem like he's he can do whatever you want to
still do what he does. That's what I get from it,
because why other than that, why would you indulge in
that conversation?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
So that's what I feel from it. Personally, it's a.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
It's cute and I can do this, you can't do this,
and I can still go drop forty. So it's it's
a little bit for me, I would call it cute
or a little bit of arrogance. I don't think it's
one hundred percent accurate in what he's doing, So that's
what I get from it.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
There may be people who are saying Anthony Edwards has changed,
Anthony Edwards is a different guy. Yeah, those clips were
taken from the last season and then the season before.
But there's a couple of things that you need to remember.
Number One, again, he was needing oxygen during a timeout
in a fourth quarter of Game two of the Western

(53:05):
Conference Finals playoff game. He was gassed in game one.
This isn't, by the way, being gassed in Denver. You
know why he wasn't gassed in Denver because he wasn't
chasing Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncic around even in the
thin air. He didn't have to. He didn't have to
worry about that sort of stuff, so you weren't getting gassed.
But what that says is if anybody wants to say, well,

(53:25):
yeah you got to chase Luca and Kyrie, of course
you're going to be tired. That's now your bar. That's
who you are trying to pass. And it reminds me
of when Michael Jordan in the late eighties was getting
the crap kicked out of him by the Detroit Bistons.
Jordan says, you know what, I need to get bigger
and stronger. I need to build up. I need to
put muscle mass. I need to be able to handle

(53:47):
these beatings because you know why, I have to get
through Detroit if I want to be an NBA champion
and then on my way to the greatest of all time.
And he did that. And that's the message to Anthony
Edwards is like, now is the time. It may not
work out this series, it may not happen, but next year,
if you make it back to the Western Conference Finals,

(54:08):
you can't be gassed in the fourth quarter in games
one and two. Yeah, that is just you can't do that.
So for the problems that that Minnesota is having and
not being able to close out the game like they
did against Dallas in Game two, Anthony Edwards needs to
bear that responsibility. This is just a blip on the screen.
He's now got a decision to make. You can go.

(54:29):
You can go this way, or you can continue to
go that way the way that you're going. And that's
why I say Anthony Edwards needs to grow up and
become a professional. I love it, No, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
It's it's like I said, it's all cute and fun
and fun and games until you meet somebody that's up
to up to your skill level and up to par
with you and can beat you and so and show
you what you need to do to become that next
tier of person.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
You want to be sure. And I'm sure somebody's gonna
say Luca sits there and smokes all the time.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
And houkah, who could nautch it?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
But Luca is not needing oxygen with four minutes to
go in the fourth quarter. You know Luca is up
to oh in this series right now. And guess what
if the roles reverse in ants given Luca the business
next year, Maybe Luca ends up making some changes or
doing stuff like that. But for Anthony Edwards, it's out
there right now. You see what the competition is doing.

(55:23):
You see where the competition is and what you need
to pass. It's time to be that guy. He's carry Rhods.
I'm Dan Byer. We are broadcasting glut Forth Tireck dot
Com Studios, Mavericks Timberwolves tonight in Dallas in Game three
of the Western Conference Finals. Coming up next. We may
have the most difficult easy as one, two, three, four

(55:45):
you have ever seen, but there is a silver lining.
He's carry Rhoads. The all Pro. I'm Dan Byer. That's
next year on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. He's
the all Pro. Carry Rhods. I'm Dan Byer, hanging out
with you on a three day weekend. It is Memorial
Day weekend, so we do ask that in your time
and starting your unofficial start of summer high school graduations,

(56:06):
everybody's having fun, please take time out to remember those
that gave the ultimate sacrifice this weekend, because that's what
this weekend is for. Yeah, I'll be safe out there
as well. Hit carry up at Carrie twenty five Roads.
You got me at Dan Byer on Fox on X
and all right. Chris purfettis here, Bo Benson is here,
Kevin Wyrets is at the news desk. Those are your

(56:26):
three lifelines, Carrie Rhoades, you're looking at them right there.
I'm looking as we play easy as one, two, three, four.
It's a game where I give Carrie a topic of
I don't know four subject matters. You don't have to
give me all of the correct answers. Just give me
some of them. And today, because I do feel that

(56:48):
this is a tough one to build out, because I
want to make it relevant. I want to make it timely.
The over under is just six and a half today. Yeah,
I know it's hard.

Speaker 11 (56:57):
It is.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
It is.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
It's a little difficult cult. But but there is also
something I'm adding new to the game today and only today.
Remember Staples had that easy button. You just hit the
easy button. Yes, that's easy as one, two three four.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
That was easy. That was easy.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
There you go for fet that's You're gonna have one
of those, okay, And if you want a correct answer revealed,
like I'm not gonna give you all of it, just
like one of the answers, one of the right answers.
Just hit that easy button. How many do I have one?
You have one of them? They have one of them,
and it's not this dump button right here, but it's

(57:36):
very similar to what that looks. You have an easy
button today? Are you ready to play easy as one, two,
three four. I'm gonna make my nephew kJ prow all
right doing it for kJ name one of two carry
all time leading scores for the Boston Celtics. We're gonna
go all time leading scores. So there are a lot

(57:58):
of great names, a lot of great names. Maybe you
want to work shop it with any of your time
leading grades. I mean you have to go. I mean
I'm gonna go. Jason Tatum up there, all time leading
scores for the for the Boston how many, I guys,
just one or two here? One? You just need one?

(58:20):
One here? All time leading scores.

Speaker 14 (58:23):
Go.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Uh, John Hablacheck, can we go there? Sure? Is that
your final answer? That's my final answer?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Show me?

Speaker 2 (58:30):
John Halachack Numero UNO twenty six, three hundred and ninety
five points. I'm glad you didn't say Jason Tatum. He
hasn't even cracked the top ten yet. Paul Pierce's second
Wow is Paul Pierce Second Wow twenty four twenty one.
Larry Bird is third. I knew Larry was up there.
I didn't think. But even Bird, like you think of

(58:51):
the career of it, you know, we still look at
Larry's career. We almost say like it was cut short
because of the back injuries, but still gonna to almost
put up twenty two thousand points in his career. Robert
Parrish was fourth, Kevin Mchali's fifth, all right, one for
one four carry Rhoads, Yeah all right. Carrie named two
of three schools that have won the most women's college

(59:15):
World Series titles. This isn't softball right now, We're in
the thick of it. Two of the three schools that
have won the most women's College World Series titles in history.
You got three lifelines there, Kevin Kevin.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yeah, Kevin is nodding his head over there like he
really knows what's going on.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
I know Oklahoma has to be one of them.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
They are one of them for I think too, Oklahoma, Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Do you have another guest? I think LSU. But let
me Bo per fat anybody, let me see. Let's go
at bo. Bo's doing the side like the little French boom.

Speaker 12 (59:55):
Yeah, I mean Oklahoma. Shout out to Chris Plank. Of
course they're on there. I would say probably Ucla sounds
like a team that might be up there too. I
think Ucla is a college here is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Looking I mean winning. Let's go Ucla and let's go Oklahoma.
All right, show me Oklahoma. Ah, the Sooner seven national titles,
a bunch of them recently, Show me Ucla.

Speaker 14 (01:00:22):
Oh. Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
They topped the list with twelve, Sandwiched in between Arizona
Arizona Arizona Wow. With eight NCAA championships in the women's
college World Series.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Wow, listen to you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
You are often running. Even is connected with his comrade.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Here at Arizona. He had to jump down.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
He was just depressed with Carrie Rhoades. I thought he
was too. I would take that over the Yeah, the
home team thing. Yeah all right, yeah, you're three for
three right now. This is where it may get a
little tricky.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Oh my god. Name three of four most common matchups
we've seen in the conference finals that involves active NBA teams.
So there are there are four matchups that have occurred
four times in the conference finals. I want to know

(01:01:20):
three of them. So not the NBA Finals, but the
conference conference East and West included. Huh. Who did we
see a lot in conference finals? Boston, Miami, Boston Knicks.
Let me think about that. Uh, Boston current teams. Don't worry,

(01:01:44):
it's not gonna be the Saint Louis Hawks, don't worry. Boston, Philly.
What do you like?

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I'll do Boston, Philly, Boston and Philly. Uh, let me
go to Chris. Let's go to Chris pet here. Let's
see what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Let's see here. I remember at least a couple Miami, Boston.
I don't know if We're going to hit the four
of marsh and I'm trying to think, could it maybe
be No, Detroit, Cleveland wasn't around that much.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
What about Dallas and Antonio? What do you think about
that one?

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
That might be a good one. Actually, Dallas San Antonio,
I think I think you're onto something there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Is that what you want? Mav Spurs, Bo Benson, Kevin Wyret?
You want to tell what you about Kevin?

Speaker 16 (01:02:37):
I'm guessing the Bulls and Pistons in the eighties because
I know Michael Jordan had an issue getting was that
in the conference finals?

Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
It was conference finals? Probably, but it was like, yeah twice?
Was it three times? It was three times?

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Well, it'd be the East sometimes it would be Pistons
and Celtics. Fact that would show up too.

Speaker 12 (01:02:52):
If we're doing conference finals, I would I would have
to think the Lakers somewhere. Yeah, maybe the Lakers Spurser's sons.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Did Houston end up playing a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Of there are That's why this is a tough one.
Give me, give me one easy buck. Okay, you're gonna
hit the easy button one of those. I'm actually gonna
reveal the toughest one. Thank you Lakers. Versus Nuggets. It's
happened four times, nineteen eighty five, two thousand and nine.
I would have never thought that nine, yeah, twenty twenty

(01:03:24):
and last year, I never thought that one. No, no,
you're welcome. There's your easy button. Okay, so we got
one of Blaker's nuggets. Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
We feel good about Boston film for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I think, I mean, who the you guys are actually are,
Like I just said, like you the way that you
are workshopping, this is really good. Like like you are,
you are on the scent, like figuring this out. You're
not off on some wild trail.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
This is tough. It's over eras. And I think like
when we start thinking, like you know, MAVs and Spurs
were spending thinking of a specific era. But as Dan
brought up with the easy button, that's that that Nuggets
Lakers was spread over quite a few years.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
All right, let's let's some we can speak it up.
I'm going I'll say, just give me two others. Two
you already got the correct one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Yeah, I do think it's I do think it's Maths
and Spurs one. I just for some reason I feel
and it's it's pretty relevant at the moment right now
with Dallas being in there, so possibly, come on, Chris,
give me one more.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
You did say you have Boston Philly? Yes, well, yes,
so those two are those two good? Yes? Okay, that's
what i'd written up. Yeah, all right, show me Boston
and Philly. Yes, they have met four times in the
conference finals, all in the early eighties, nineteen eighty, nineteen
eighty one, nineteen eighty two, and nineteen eighty five. Yes,
and is it Maverick Spurs Fike. Our buzzer is off

(01:04:56):
for the three day weekends, so we oh, I have
That was rude, correct, So it's not correct. You guys
mentioned it Laker Spurs, Lakers Spurs four times eighty two,
eighty three, then one and eight. Celtic's heat also mentioned
Ia four times twenty twelve, twenty twenty, twenty twenty two,

(01:05:20):
and of course twenty twenty three. That's all right, you
guys got two points. Final question in our Memorial Day
edition weekend edition of easy as one, two, three, four,
This may go back. You'll have to go on the
way back machine. Name four of the five players that

(01:05:41):
made up the Pacers starting lineup when they went to
the two thousand NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
I got two thousand, Rick Smith's, Reggie Miller, Dale Davis,
Antonio Davis.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Okay, those are your final answers. Those are my final answers.
All right, show me Reggie Miller, all right, there he
is obviously the starter. Show me Rick Smith's yes, manning
the post in the middle, Show me Dale Davis. That
is correct? And for a score of nine, is it?
Antonio Davis, Dalen Rose, Jaylen Rose, and the other Mark Jackmon. Yes,

(01:06:26):
that was your starting lineup in the two thousand they
faced the Lakers. Antonio Davis coming off the bench. Yes,
he would start later in his career, but that season.
But still a score of eight when the over under
was six and a half. That's pretty good, Carrier Roads,
that's a very good look at that. I'd like to

(01:06:49):
thank everybody that was easy. I really actually was impressed
with the way that you guys sniffed out those conference
finals book, because he did mention Celtics s heat. You
mentioned Lakers spurs. We took three days, so it helped.
And to let you know, Lakers suns happened three times,
Celtic's calves happened three times. You mentioned Celtics Pistons. That

(01:07:10):
happened three times, Bulls Pistons eighty nine ninety ninety one,
that happened three times. That's right. And uh, don't forget
Pacers Nicks and Lakers Blazers was a three time one.
Those were the most common conference finals matchups that you've
had in the NBA. Wow, all right, he's Carrier oads

(01:07:31):
in him up back Carrie twenty five roads, find Chris
Prophet at Chris Perffett, find bow at bo not Jackson?
Is that still in effect?

Speaker 11 (01:07:37):
B E A U?

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
And what is it? What the it's k dub I
always get wired Twitter handle messed up. Kevin Wirt is gonna,
by the way, bring us the latest of what is happening.
I've got it right here, but I've also what's the
what's the kub AMFF That's what it is? I almost
said AMPM like the convenience star. Kevin. Yes, that's where

(01:08:01):
you can get it. We're gonna go to Kevin now
for the latest. What's happening there?

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
It is?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah, k dov AMFM k dub AMF exactly.

Speaker 16 (01:08:10):
Maybe it sounded like radio call lenders, so yeah, well that's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Actually really good. That never dawned on me. That is
really good. That's really good. All right, take it away, keV.

Speaker 16 (01:08:21):
Anyway, the Indianapolis five hundred, they call it the greatest
spectacle in racing, but it is delayed. They have inclement
whether in Indianapolis. A severe thunderstore warning is in effect,
and there has not yet been an update on when
exactly this race will begin. Another racing tradition on the
Sunday of Memorial Day weekend, the Monaco Grand Prix, Charles

(01:08:43):
Leclair winning it. It was his home race. He was
born and raised in Monacone. He wins it for the
first time. Wasn't he able to get on the podium
the last few times he raced, But he was able
to hold off race long pressure from Oscar Piastree to
win the race the first again in his home country.
In PGA Golf, we have an update on that tragic

(01:09:03):
news regarding the death of Grayson Murray yesterday passed away
at the age of thirty, his parents issuing a statement
through the PG two we're saying that his death was
by suicide.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
So very very tragic news there.

Speaker 16 (01:09:17):
As for the action on the course, Davis Riley at
the Charles Schwap Challenge at fourteen hundred. He leads it
four strokes ahead of Scottie Scheffler. They're both set the
tee off in about fifteen minutes or so. In the
NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs, puck is supposed to drop at
three o'clock Eastern time. Rangers and Panthers Game three. That
series tied at one game a piece. Major League Baseball,

(01:09:40):
we have a handful of games going on right now.
Tigers and Blue Jays. It's Detroit on top eight five.
They're in the middle of the sixth inning over in Detroit.
Red's leading the Dodgers for nothing. They're going for the sweep.
In Cincinnati, end of the fifth inning, Brewers and Red Sox,
they're just getting started at Fendway.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
They're scoreless.

Speaker 16 (01:09:57):
Same for the Mariners and Nationals at the Nation's Capital,
they are scoreless and they're trying to get things started
in at the South side of Chicago Orioles and White Sox,
but that is delayed because of rain.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Got you, guys, Kevin stick around for a second year
because I'm gonna I want to. I want to, I
want you to stay in on this conversation. I want
to get Ball and Chris's thoughts as well. I'm gonna
start out with Kerry Rhoads. Last night, Arizona won the
PAC twelve baseball title, beating USC in the championship game,
the final event of the PAC twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
That is over. What are you going to miss about
the the PAC twelve? Pac ten? Now that that conference, well,
it may exist in some form, but it's not going
to exist. Like we on the knew it right and
loved it. What are you gonna miss about the PAC twelve?
Me personally, personally, not much. I don't have much history

(01:10:51):
with the BACK twelve. I mean, I'm a Southern boy
and you know, was a part of.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Conference USA when I was playing legendary league. Yes, and
then we went from Conference USA to the Big East
on my way out, and so I saw that part
of it. The conference realignment stuff is just confusing. It's
it's sad that the history of the granddaddy of them all,
and you know, those type of conversations are really not

(01:11:19):
here anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
So that would be the one. I want Fox Sports
Radio to put out a graphic with Carrie's picture and
it's like, what will you remember most about the PAC
twelve and then just not much, not much. Chris Purfet
Toledo kid lives out here on the West coast. I
went to USC What what are you gonna miss most

(01:11:42):
about the PAC twelve?

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Christ A few things. I don't know if he's first's
start with basketball because it'll be the least of my
list here, but.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Let's start with the most because we're crunched on time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
How about well, okay, yeah, let's well first off, then
I PAC twelve title hopes and dreams dying thanks to
Utah I or late nights, late nights in Corvallis. Pack
twelve after dark was a thing and that's just not
going to be the case moving forward. And then to
go to basketball real quick. Bill Walton, Bill Walton just
mumbling over whatever he so wishes. I'm sure he's still

(01:12:14):
gonna get work. But when it's not Pack twelve basketball,
it loses a luster.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
I did have Bill Walton written down as well, Bob Benson,
he got Southern California.

Speaker 12 (01:12:21):
Yeah, Pack twelve after dark one. There's nothing like watching
like a team go into Corvallis or a team go
into Pullman and have their season, you know, on the line,
and for whatever reason, that's the night that Oregon State
or Washington State decided to play the best game of
their lives. And I do like speaking of those towns,
I feel bad for those towns that relied so heavily

(01:12:43):
on these teams, these big name teams coming into their
city and infusing them with life. And not that they're
dead towns or anything like that, but it is different
when USC comes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Up to down especially those two schools you just mentioned,
the Pullman and Corvallis, the two schools who were basically
left out of the dance from the Pack twelve.

Speaker 12 (01:13:01):
And if you're a hater, there is a joy to
watching a team like Oregon or USC go to Oregon
State and lose in a game. I remember before I
went to USC, I got a huge kick out of
I think the Mark Sanchez Trojans going up to Oregon
State and losing a game while they were the number
one team in the country. That was hilarious to me.
And so you're not gonna really see that anymore, especially
where college football is going overall.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Kevin Wirtt, what are you going to miss about the
Pac twelve?

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Definitely the Pac twelve after dark games.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
It's a generation.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
It really is.

Speaker 16 (01:13:28):
Yeah, even when I lived in North Carolina for a
few years, I mean, it would be closing time at
the bar and there'd be a PAC twelve game in
the fourth quarter. Like it was awesome for us in
Samniacs who just couldn't get to sleep before two o'clock
in the morning because I always stayed on West Coast
time even though I lived out there, so I'd be
up to one two o'clock in the morning every night
watching Dodger games or in this instance PAC twelve after dark.

(01:13:49):
So that became a big part of my viewing. And
one Bill Walton is another one who another reason I
will miss the PAC twelve because of I just found
him so entertaining and knowing about the Conference of Champions
and talking so much about that that in itself was
a big form of entertainments. All missed that part as well,
and just being a West Coast guy in general. It

(01:14:10):
was a West Coast pride thing in major college athletics
growing up. I was a Notre Dame fan growing up,
but it was that and the PAC twelve was what
we had on TV, so that's what I grew up
watching a lot. It really had a sense of community,
a sense of pride here on the West Coast because
it gets overlooked a lot the college football and basketball
programs out here. I know, the SEC, the ACC, the

(01:14:31):
Big Ten, they're great conferences, they have great teams, but
people overlook the ones on the West Coast. And the
Pac twelve was always that major conference out here that
showed they have real football, they have real basketball, they compete.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
At the top level.

Speaker 16 (01:14:44):
And now they're just being absorbed into conferences based back east,
and it just feels like it loses that regional appeal
sure that really had that they really had for.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
All my life for centrals.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Absolutely absolutely. I'm going to miss the Thursday Saturday college
asking Like when you would watch, say Oregon State was
at Arizona on a Thursday, You're like, okay, well then
Oregon Arizona is on Saturday, and Oregon State will be
at Arizona State because the scheduling that they did, because
everything was two and two. You know, you played in
Washington on the weekend, or you played in Oregon, you

(01:15:16):
played in the Bay Area. I'm gonna miss that. And honestly,
and I was told this just the Rose Bowl, Like
me being a big ten Midwest guy, And I was
told that the Rose Bowl wasn't the same for the
last twenty years. Yes and no like, but it was
still the Rose Bowl. To not have to not have
Arizona be able to break through and play in like
a Rose Bowl, as the PAC twelve champ Er Oregon

(01:15:37):
State like we had, you know, thought those schools had
come close, you know at times over the past thirty years,
maybe a one off year here or there. But to
have those things, just the PAC twelve, Big ten Rose Bowls,
what I'm gonna miss and anything.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
And even though I say it not much, I said
the same thing, the granddaddy of last Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
He's Carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. Coming up next. We
put Carrie Rhodes career in perspective in a way that
no one else ever has. My God a lot Fromthtirec
dot Com Studios. That's next year on Fox Sports Sunday,
Fox Sports Sunday. He's Carrier Roads. I'm dan Byer. Big.
Thanks to Kevin Wyert, Isaac Loewenkron, Chris Purfett, and Bo

(01:16:15):
Bentson for helping put together today's show. Ian Roddy as
well for doing some of our pre production stuff you're
gonna hear from Bo Benson in a set carry Roads
because we are piggybacking off of our conversation earlier. You know, like,
not all triple doubles are the same, right, thirty three points,
twelve assists, ten rebounds much more impressive than twelve, eleven
and eleven. Right, Like it's it's just a different sort

(01:16:38):
of story. And there was there was a stat put
up about Angel Reese's debut in the WNBA that was
completely intended to take a shot at Caitlin Clark, and
I thought it was just such a cherry picking stat
where Angel Reese was the only rookie in the WNBA
this season to have double scoring in all games. There

(01:17:02):
were three games at the time, now four because she
did have it last yesterday's loss to the Sun she
had thirteen. So she's still the only WNBA rookie this
year to score in double figures all game, but the
most she scored is thirteen points. Like, we're just like
clearing the top. So we decided here on Fox Sports
Sunday that we are going to cherry pick stats for

(01:17:24):
Carrie Rhodes. All right, let's get the band together. Bo Benson.
You have some numbers on our all pro safety here
that very very few can match. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:17:38):
Carrie Rhoads is one of two safeties NFL, one of two.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
All the safeties that have played in the game, only
two people have accomplished what he's about.

Speaker 12 (01:17:50):
Three extremely unique. One of two safeties in the NFL
with ten plus interceptions, thirty five plus passes defended, three
plus sacks, two one hundred and forty plus tackles and
singles released on streaming music acts wo.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Wow two.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Who's the other one?

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
CJ.

Speaker 12 (01:18:11):
Gardner Johnson of the Philadelphia Eagles, He's the other one.
We just released this song and I think he's releasing
a disc track against Antonio Brown, So is it really Yeah?
You might want to get to work on that too.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
I got it. I've got like ten in the chamber. Good,
I'm ready to go. If you want to make him
one of one bow uh and to not fight with
all of his teammates and opponents, that would be that
would that would set you in the one of one category.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
I may have had one fight with a teammate, so
I don't know about the opponent thing, but yeah, I
guess the fill Do.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
You know that Carrier Roads is one of two players
in the history of the NFL to recover four fumbles
in a season, score three career defensive touchdowns, pick off
more than twenty passes in his career, start in seven
plus seasons, and be born on All second one of

(01:19:02):
two players, Burgess Owens the other. But what sets you
apart from the great New York Jet and former Raider
that is Burgess Owens is that you are the only
player in NFL history to have all those stats and
be born on August second, and have more than one

(01:19:24):
career sack fourteen sacks for you, Owens just had one.
So Carrie Rhoades the only player in NFL history to
recover four fumbles in a season, score three career defensive touchdowns,
pick off more than twenty passes, start seven or more seasons,
have more than one career sack, and be born on August.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Second, and the partridge in the pear tree. Yet, Wow,
how about that. That's some That's that's that is the
rarest of air. You are the only one up there.
Wow with those numbers. Yeah, that's I didn't know that
And that's pretty cool. Thank you guys for stoking my
ego today and sending me off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Well, imagine my surprise when I searched August second birthdays
and was rattling off stats and there was someone going
toll for toe with him up until we finally got
to career stats. I'm like, I thought, Geez, August second
would narrow this down. And there's Burgess Owens. He's not
losing any steps until carry Rhoads pulled away. Yes, have
a happy Memorial Days. Say next week he's carry Roads.

(01:20:25):
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