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Brian Noe and Geoff Schwartz talk about Caitlin Clark and the WNBA after yesterday’s foul drama, their thoughts on the NBA Finals matchup between Boston and Dallas, FSR NFL Insider Adam Caplan stops by, thoughts on the future landscape of college football, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh good afternoon, everybody, Jeff, A pleasure to be with
you here.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
I just thought of this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
You remember the old Jin Blossom's hit, Hey Jealousy? Remember
that song? Is that ring a bell at all? Sure
might have been born the same year that came out.
I'm just gonna do a quick Google search over here,
but it wasn't okay song it came out. It came
out in ninety two. When were you born, Jeff, nineteen

(00:31):
eighty six. Okay, so you were a wee six years
old maybe at the time when Hey Jealousy came out.
But it popped into my head because I'm thinking about
the WNBA and what's going on with the treatment of
Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Lord. We talked about this last week, Jeff. Remember last
week the narrative shifted to, Oh, it's just it's healthy competition.
All these girls want to do is just beat Caitlyn
clar What's wrong with that?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
And then we fast forward to last night and you
had the Indiana Fever facing the Chicago sky. Chicago scored,
and Caitlin Clark is just waiting for the ball to
be inbounded to her and there is. It's not allowed
in the NFL. It was the old hinz Ward blind

(01:22):
side block. You know, that's what happened. Someone from the
Chicago Sky just lays Caitlin Clark out. Yep, and we're
supposed to believe Jeff, this is just healthy competition.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
There's not anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
But Angel Reese jumped up off the bench started clapping
for a teammate, Kennedy Clark. She's the one who laid
out Caitlin Clark. She wouldn't answer any Caitlin Clark questions
after the game.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
This is ridiculous. But come on, dude, this is jealousy,
animosity being threatened.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's a whole gumbo of hater raide and it's obnoxious.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
What's going on right now?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Afternoon, Brian, to talk to you again, to talk to
everyone else? Yeah, what a what an interesting time for WNBA.
I'll say this. I said this yes on social media
the WNBA good, bad, and different. Cheap shot, not a
cheap shot. This has been great for them, Matt. I mean,
when you're arguing about whether the best player or one

(02:21):
of the best players is being treated unfairly, I mean
you have reached territory that every other sport is in
right like, this is just a fantastic spot for them
to be And because we were talking about them again, right,
wrong and different, they're talking about them right like that
people are caring about the WNBA enough to talk about it.
And the reason is Kaylen Clark. That's the reason why.

(02:41):
And there's so many things that play here, right because look,
was it the worst cheap shot I've ever seen? Nah,
that wasn't like the worst, right, And mean, Kaila Clark's fine,
she's not injured, She's finished the game. We've seen worst
cheap shots, right, But it's sort of the culmination of
what feels like in effort to make her life miss

(03:02):
Roles or rookie, which, by the way, it's how most
sports are. It's not this is not any different. The
difference is I think the reasons why right now you
can argue, and I think there's you know, the idea
of like, she's had too much attention and she doesn't
she doesn't deserve the attention yet, Okay, And that's certainly
a fair argument to make, But the people making the

(03:24):
argument are not the ones that aren't getting the attention. Right.
So when you say something like you know, what, she's
getting too much attention too early in her career. That's
sort of you know the the it feels like you
know that that you're saying that I should be getting
the attention instead, right, because she's getting it, but the

(03:45):
the league wasn't getting the attention they're getting without Kaylyn
Clark right now. Yeah, they were getting some attention, absolutely,
and they were getting more attention they weren't getting, you know,
Kaitlin Clark attention. So when you say she hasn't deserve
the attention she's getting, I get it. I understand as
a former athlete. I get it. But she's not taking

(04:05):
away attention from you because you weren't getting it anyways. Okay,
so I don't quite buy the argument. The thing that
is tough when we talk about these subjects because people
turn into race, especially on social media. I asked yesterday
why don't players like her? Right, people say jealousy, which
we kind of just talked about, and people bring up

(04:27):
the fact that she's white, and we've we've seen other
other coaches mentioned this and players mentioned this. I kind
of don't buy that either, because here's why the MVP
of the WNBA is white. The last great rookie, sobridian
Escu also white, so Brian, I don't buy this is

(04:48):
a race thing either. I mean it certainly can be.
I'm not saying it's not a factor at all in this,
but I think it's kind of a not the best factor.
I think in the end, it's jealousy. It's what you said.
I know people are saying, no, no, no, it's not no,
it is that because the other reasons don't make sense

(05:09):
to me, because look, the race thing. Look, I get it.
Maybe they don't like her because she's white. I don't know,
but again, Brianna Stewart's white. Who's the best player in
the league. So I don't believe it it's a race thing.
I just think people are jealous. I think that players
have Again I'm not disregarding this opinion because I understand
this from being from the athlete perspective, but players are

(05:32):
jealous that she's getting the attention that they think that
they deserve. Again, I don't know why they think they
deserve because they weren't getting it beforehand. But she's done
so much good for the league. And and with this too,
is that she herself is not unlikable, right, So if
she was unlikable and sort of put other girls down,

(05:55):
other women down, should say, and talked about other women
a certain way and uplift other women like Okay, fine,
yeah she's she's not a nice person, but just the opposite, Brian,
she's super nice about the whole about like she said
such great things about injuries before the game and Cardosa
before the game. And so it's just jealousy, man, That's
why I've determined it's just jealousy and gets sports that happens.

(06:17):
But it just feels aggressive right now.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, it is. It's aggressive jealousy.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Maybe that's the follow up to hate jealousy for the
gin Blossoms, they come back out, you know, they get
the band back together. I don't know if they've taken
some time aggressive jealousy. That's what we've fast forwarded to.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
And the thing about her too, by the way, Brian
is yeah, she's I've made money fading her. We've talked
this before, but she's doing really well for rookie and
in the WNBA it feels a little more drafted than
in the NBA when rookie struggle because you know, they
they're so good in college. Sometimes we don't really get

(06:57):
that in the NBA game where the players coming from
college or like the best player ever right, because of
the way the structure of college basketball works, so we
see players as rookies struggle. We saw it with again
Sabrina Nescue struggle as a rookie. But Kainga walks everything
like seventeen to seven and five like yeah, as someone
who's her team sucks, her team is bad and not good,

(07:19):
and I will I will end with this. I'm sorry.
I have one more point to make here. I was
I was a little bit upset at her teammates because
her teammates should have gone after Carter and the Fever
need to hire an enforcer whose job is to do
the Jeff Schwartz high school basketball stat line. It's it's

(07:43):
six minutes, five fouls, four rebounds, and one layup. Like
they need that from someone on their team because I
think there her teammates like her. I don't know why
they wouldn't. But you have to show that you are
in complete support of your best player, your friend changing player,

(08:04):
and you just have to Brian, you have to bring
someone in who's willing to and I A get this
is not the sport per se as much anymore. It's
not what basketball is. But you need someone. You need
someone to make sure that other players know if you're
gonna do this to my girl, to my teammate, we're

(08:24):
gonna make you pay for it.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, no, it makes sense. I just think two things.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
The first thing is, and you alluded to this, Caitlin
Clark has done nothing wrong.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
It'd be one thing if she was just I've arrived.
I'm the best.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know, this league is irrelevant without me, And it
just gave these other players a reason to just hate her.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
What's her sin?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Her sin is she was a great player in college
and she's gotten a lot of attention. That's her sin. Yeah,
if you could even call it, which clearly is not one.
But that's the reason she's getting so much hatred directed
at her.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
And the other thing is, look, man, I have no
problem with beefs.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's just own it. I'm a firm believer in just
own it.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
None of these other players, Angel Reese, Chnnity Carter, whoever else,
they don't have to like her. They could hate her.
I just ask that you own it, don't spin it into.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Oh no, it's just healthy competition.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, you guys are making something out of nothing when
she gets decleted and she's not even wearing cleats out there.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Obviously it's basketball.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's an issue that goes above and beyond just healthy competition,
and there's a motive. There's no denying that, So just
own it. I would rather hear in a postgame press conference. Yeah,
I don't like her. Frankly, I hate her. I think
it's been a lot of attention, and I don't think
there's nearly as much substance that warrants all this attention, period,

(10:05):
point blank.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Hard stop.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
I'd have a lot more appreciation for the venom coming
her way, but to spit it into oh no, not us.
I just hate the no, the innocent like Babe in
the Woods routine. It's obnoxious to what's happening in this league.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
And you know, they refuse to talk about it last night,
and I can understand the frustration and getting I would imagine, Look,
the players, he asked a lot about campin Clark and
they don't think that she deserves it and all, you know,
all that, all the kind of the things we always
say about it, right, But do you know how it
would stop. Like if you just didn't cheap shot her,
they want to ask you a question about cheap shot

(10:44):
in her right, Like you know what I mean, Like
it's it's pretty simple. They won't ask a questions about it.
And so if you just didn't do it, then there's
nothing to talk about. And so I don't I don't
think players sort of understand that that idea, you know,
like if you just didn't talk about it, they wouldn't
bring it up. But they they have. And look again,
her go find the club on social media, guys about

(11:05):
you know, she's talking about you know about Angel Reese
and and uh and Camilica Doorsa like she's Cordosa, like
she's taught. She said the nice things about them, and
and again, it's just it's jealousy. It's a bad look.
I don't think people are gonna watch the league less.
People have argued that, I think it says it is
a bad look. It's a bad look. And again, Brent,

(11:28):
I'm I'm sort of okay with the cheat, not okay
with the cheap shot. I don't know how to put it.
It's something in the world. I think people are a
little bit overreacting to to that a little bit, Brian like, yeah,
it's a cheap shot. It didn't injure her in her career,
you know, just sort of some rough ball. But to
deny that it's anything, like, you know, to deny that
there's not anything more behind that, I think is the

(11:49):
wrong thing there, because it certainly.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Is, there's no doubt. But that's an interesting point. Where
is this good or bad for the league? I'd argue
it's more good because we're talking about it, we're focused
on it.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
So yeah, so we started, we started our show Tatena
and again, no it's not like there's football we're missing
to skip out on. But still, I mean we're starting
a show, a national radio show talking about the WNBA.
And again I mean not talking about baseball right now,
or softball or any other golfer. Are you have a
golf wager or ufl or football or backhoege basketball? No,

(12:26):
I mean mea finals start this week. We want to
talk at the NBA finals talking about about WNBA. So
in the end, it's kind of a win for the league.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Oh yeah, I think absolutely. In the end, it's a
win for the league, but not a win for Caitlin
Clark that's ridiculous that.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
She's she's handled like a look of pro though. Man, yeah,
she's doing a good job.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
She's been a pro all across the board, and all
these haters try to trag her down.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
It's insane. What's going on there?

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(13:13):
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(14:36):
joins us to talk some NFL. Jeff in effect. Yeah,
absolutelys think about this. We've got our finals matchup set, yeah,
and we've got the Celtics taken on the MAVs. So
Kyrie Irving will take on one of his former teams,
the Boston Celtics, And it's interesting to me, right, I

(14:56):
give Kyrie credit, Jeff, where he seems to have mature
quite a bit. Yeah, because it's just a couple of
years ago that Kyrie was doing some wild stuff. Yeah,
it was burning sage around the Brooklyn Nets court and
there were there are a lot of things going on, right.
He refused to get vaccinated, so he missed most of

(15:17):
that season. Wasn't able to play home home games for
the Brooklyn Nets.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
That was a big deal.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
What did insane? What insanes?

Speaker 7 (15:23):
Like?

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Can you imagine like thirty years I being like, yeah,
they got he just he only played away games because
it like what what what?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
And he was also suspended eight games in the twenty
twenty two to twenty three season. He posted a link
on social media to a documentary it had anti Semitic material.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
So Kyrie he lost his Nike shoe deal. Like, think
about that, Jeff. He was suspended for eight games and
lost his Nike shoe deal.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
You want to talk about like.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
A progressive, open minded company, that's Nike, and they're like,
let's get rid of this freaking guy. It's too much
over here. So I give Kyrie credit that he has matured.
But the reason I bring this up, Jeff is because
Kyrie has done a magnificent job.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
His team is in the finals.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
And sometimes there's a tendency to look back on those
times and it's like, did we make something out of nothing?
Were we overreacting? It's like, no, we were not overreacting.
He was a complete idiot with some of the things
that he said, did posted, and he's matured. I give
him credit for that, but let's not twist it into
something it wasn't back then. He was an idiot back

(16:34):
then and he's grown from that.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
He certainly has matured. And sometimes maturity is knowing when
to share your opinions and when not to. And you know,
he might believe the things that he talked about two
three years ago, but he's not telling us. And some
of the maturing is understanding your audience and your time
and place to say certain things. And I think he

(16:58):
has not learned as less might be too harsh, but
he certainly is mature enough to make it to where
you know he's going to be. I think a member
of a championship winning team and a member who is important. Right,
he's one of the two guys that is allowed to
close out the game against Boston every night. So I mean,
not only has he sort of rehabbed his image, And

(17:22):
that happens in sports when you play well, and people
might say, well, how do you forgive and forget and
all of this. I'm not sure you forget, Brian, But
just like with everything in sportsman winning sort of cures
all right. You know, he made comments I'm Jewish. There
are things that you know, the leak you talked about,
and the things he might believe and I don't agree
with obviously, and but I try to. I don't know,

(17:44):
sometimes gear forgiveness, but sometimes he just hasn't mentioned those things,
hasn't talked about it. But you forget about those things,
or you give someone a little bit more grace when
they mature in winning. Right, Like watching him play, it's enjoyable,
it's fun to watch him play. It's a basketball player,
plaus well, then have games like those things sort of

(18:04):
you know, you might forget comments people make. I'm not
saying it's right or wrong, Brian. I certainly have forgotten
things he said because I like watching him play basketball.
Maybe that's how he justified in our own brains, right,
But that's sort of the way I look at this
sometimes where winning sort of rehabilitates you. And he's on
the verge of another championship, of being part of a
big part of that championship right where he's sort of

(18:25):
won b to one A which he was with Lebron.
Is they're winning. I think they're winning the championship and
and you know he will have been a big part
of that reason. Why No.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
So a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
There's an iHeart newsletter that they it's like an email
blast and they'll include a couple of clips from Fox
Sports radio shows. And I listened to a clip from
the Dan Patrick Show and he was talking about Kyrie
Irving and the reaction when Kyrie was initially traded to
the Mavericks. Oh sure it's At the time, it was like,

(19:03):
is this even a good idea for Dallas? The reaction
was like, why would anybody trade for this dude who's
been so injured? Does he even want to play basketball?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Right now? Right? Like that was the question.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
And now you look at the trade and it was
like Spencer Dinwitty, Dorian Finney Smith and a couple of
like a couple of draft picks. Look at Dallas now,
it's insane the turnaround. Think about this, Jeff. Last year
they didn't even make the play in. They were in
eleventh place in the West, and we're like, this is

(19:36):
a disaster. And now here they are in the finals
and you think they're gonna win the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Well, this goes back to what we've talked about in
the whole playoffs is you have not only one closure,
but two on the Mavericks. And when you have Luca
and Tyrie, you both those guys. Boston just doesn't have
those guys. Tatum is not that guy. He's not And
if there is a minute left in the game, the

(20:04):
game is tied. I trust Luca and Tyrie over Tatum
and Brown, and a lot of these games are gonna
be close. You know, there was there was a lot
less defense I think played in the first three games
of the of the MAVs Wolf series, and we both
thought I think the under hit both the last I

(20:24):
know hit game four because I wagered on it. I
think game five it hit two because the mat and
Wolves couldn't score. But Dallas can play defense. They have
these two guys, man, that are just Look. The frustrating
part about Tatum right as you end up with with
you know, thirty three, you know, thirty three, ten and
eight at the end of the game, And when you

(20:47):
watch that game, you can't feel that impact. Right, Sometimes
when you watch Luca and Kyrie play, you feel their
impact that they go thirty three, ten to nine, you know,
you feel that. And when there are moments of sort
of panic, right when there are moments when things are
going off the rails for those for those teams, Luca

(21:10):
and Kyrie are the guys that they turn to to
make it happen for them. It Boston, how often does
Tatum just sort of stands forty feet from the basket
when the Pacers are making a fifteen.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
To oh run, Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Again, I know Celtics fans are we're you know, we
went sixty four wins and we're twelve and two in
the postseason. How can you doubt us? It's like, well,
just give me the reasons why, Like this is why
you know you I never will discredit a team for
making it this far when they have to play the

(21:47):
games are supposed to play. But let's be real, the
Celtics have had an easier path than Dallas has had
They've They've done what they should do, which what good
teams do with that easy path. Absolutely no doubt about that.
But Dallas has been much more, has been tested in
a much bigger way, and Kyrie's been tested over the

(22:08):
years as well. Right, winning a championship. Remember the thing
about Luca too. We always talk about players in the NBA,
so are having to be twenty seven right to win
a championship? Well, he played in eighteen professionally like he's
been playing a lot of high leverage basketball for so
many years. So I really, I really think the Mavericks went.

(22:31):
I think it's probably a six game series. That means
they win game six in Dallas. I know that is it?
Is it two to three to two in the finals
or is it? Yeah? Okay, so that so that would
be Game six would be in Dallas. I think they win.
I think they win the championship. The role players for
Dallas I have been a little more reliable at some

(22:52):
points in this series. You know, Boston has a lot
of depth, but you know their games are White doesn't
shoot as well. Horford is he gonna be ready? You know,
Perzinga's coming back is a huge deal.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Brian don't don't, don't doubt my guy Al Horford here.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
We've been having this joke text message Shane for a
long time.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I love Al Horford like.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
I'll fade him. I'll be brought in Al Horford.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Don't get it and uh thin Ice you know, and
so you're ahead.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
I very quick gambling thing. I have the Giants pitcher
Blake Snell under fourteen point five outs plus money plus
one twenty five. He's at fourteen outs right now.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Okay, we're gonna need basis bases loaded. Gona need for
do go to do his thing over.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
If he gets on base, this is probably his last batter.
Bases are loaded two outs in the fifth end. If
he gets through this batter, I lose if he gets
If he if it's bag gets on base, I'm probably
gonna win my wager. I love Gambley just like it
is what you feel, right, It's like it's small wager guys,
like it's not not gonna make a make a break
my day, my life. But now I'm glued to this
baseball I'm a Giants fan anyways, but I'm glued to

(23:57):
this baseball game hoping my actually my team loses.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Because the right.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah there, I love what you just said. It's not
gonna make or break your life. I will act. I'll
give you an example. I had the Royals earlier today,
they're up three to one in the ninth inning. It
just disintegrated, right, I had the I don't know if
I said that, right, I have the Padres beating the Royals,

(24:24):
and they were, Oh.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
No, are you gonna wiggle out of this vet with him?
He's not gonna be able to continue to get that fifty.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Oh my god, Wow, this is wow coming out with.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
The what if he's got to go on the I
L and he's got Oh, he's.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Giving the ball away, Jeff, you're gonna win your wager.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
This is unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I need some of this Schwartz magic.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Wow, it's a one to one count.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I don't know what he's got, like an oblique or
something with his arm felt tightness.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
And they just that's it.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh he grabbed the groin area. I don't know if
that's what's going on, but.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Oh my god, Oh wow, what a what a hit, Brian,
And this was his last Still what a hit?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay, can you can you sprinkle some of the fairy
dust my way, because I've got the Yankees to win.
I took him on a liveline when they're down three
to one, so I need the Yankees little comeback win
and I.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Took him earlier over four and a half runs.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Blake Snell has been freaking awful, right, and he did well,
but we're gonna need Yankees to score some runs over it.
I know it's against your favorite team, so I don't
know if you're willing to participate.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Well, now that Snell's out, I mean, go Giants.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
It is this This series is Yankees Giant. Everyone is
a good reminder for baseball about the importance that stars
play in your lineup and on your team. Now I
go back on my head and win a championship without
a stars. I mean Texas last year didn't have.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I don't know, I.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Guess you're right, Yeah, you're right about that and the
end of the pitching. Last year they also had a
Hall of Fame manager short What I think helps in
the postseason is like, the Giants don't have any of
those guys, right, they have good players, but they're not
And you see Aaron Judge hit a ball four or
five hundred feet the other day, Loon Soto crushed a

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baseball earlier in this game, and then the Giants are
losing this game today. But it you just need those guys.
Like when they play the Dodgers, you see all these
superstars that Giants don't have those guys, and you're just
sort of watching a team that is just gonna be
you know, maybe make the playoffs and the walk oard
team I don't know, don't do anything the postseason. Yeah,

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you see, it's a good example in sports about you know,
when you and super We talk about this with with
with the Mavericks. You need those superstars man to win
championships for a lot a lot of times. And God
remind you in this series about that.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, I don't disagree with you. It's funny because look.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Baseball is a lot more of an individualized team sport
where a guy like Mike Trout can just be unfreaking
believable and not even sniff one postseason series win in
his career. You know, like it takes pitching, it takes
a cast around you. But your point is valid, right.
I think we tend to look at it where it's like, yeah,

(27:39):
you might have a star or two, but that doesn't
guarantee you anything. And that's true. But when you look
at teams like your Giants who don't have that one superstar,
it swings the other way. So I'm with you on that. Hey,
we've got Manzi Bolanos, you talk about superstardom.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
She's with us here this afternoon. What's going on? Monse Hi?

Speaker 9 (27:58):
Guys, happy to be hanging now.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
My allergies are killing me, so I hope you feel
better than I do.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Mazzi.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I only want updates about the Yankees scoring runs and
winning this game.

Speaker 8 (28:09):
Okay, how about I tell you that the bases are loaded,
so that's good, you know, so they do. They have
the chance to bring in some runs and cut the
lead because they are down by two to the Giants.
As you guys were mentioning, it's the top of the
fifth innies. So I'll cross my fingers for you here,
and I hope that they get some runs in on
this inning with the bases loaded.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Jeff Schwartz, that's the advice I have for you.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Got it? Got it all right?

Speaker 8 (28:35):
The Mariners on the scoreboard against the Angels one zero,
bottom of the sixth inning is about to start in Seattle,
and things started well for the Dodgers.

Speaker 9 (28:44):
With a leadoff home run by Mooki Betts. All we
got a hit for the Yankees.

Speaker 8 (28:51):
Might it right into the corner, right into the right field?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Who's the base first? Was that? I can't remember who
got on first base? There's a let out over? Was
it Stanton?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (29:03):
It's like Yankees, can you give us their last name
please somewhere on their jersey please, because we don't know
their numbers like that?

Speaker 9 (29:10):
Yeah, that was Alex Verdugo.

Speaker 8 (29:12):
Yeah, Alex Verdugo ties the game.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
That's right, three to three. Now there you go. All right,
it's San Francisco and the.

Speaker 9 (29:19):
Yankees still have a man on second and third base.
There you go, all right.

Speaker 10 (29:22):
Back to the Dodgers, things started well for them, leadoff
former by Mooky Bets and then won by Freddie Freeman
right after. So the Dodgers are beating the Rockies three
zero top at the fifth inning. Earlier today, the Braves
top the A's three to one. Sean Murphy had the
go ahead RBI double and the seventh inning Kettle Martha
of the Diamondbacks had two homers, including the go ahead
two run shot in the ninth and the Diamondbacks had

(29:42):
a five to four comeback win over the mets Hosa
Siri with the two RBI double in the eighth inning
gave the Rays the lead to beat the Orioles four
to three, but Gunner Henderson did hit his nineteenth homer
of the season, while the Tigers scored four runs in
the tenth inning and beat the Red Sox eight to four.

Speaker 8 (29:58):
At the RBC Canadian Open, Robert McIntyre's still in the lead.
He is now fifteen under part overall. He is one
under through thirteen holes for this round, while Rory McElroy
is now two shots back along with Victor Perez. In
the WNBA, you guys were talking about the Caitlin Clark
fell by Chicago's Kennedy Carter. Well, the league didn't announce

(30:18):
that they're going to upgrade it from a common foul
to a flagrant foul penalty one. Carter will not be fined,
but the league is finding Angel Reese one thousand dollars
for failing to make yourself available to the media after
the game, and they're finding the Chicago organization five thousand
dollars for failing to comply with League media policies. And
there is one w NBA game that wrapped up for
the day, Connecticut Sun a perfect eight and oh to

(30:41):
start the season.

Speaker 9 (30:42):
They just beat the dream sixty nine two fifty. Back
to you guys, good stuff, Matzi.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Likewise, yes, uh runs by the Yankees TI game three
to three, pretty thank Jeff.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
So when the Johnny's played the Yankees, which doesn't happen
every year, I believe in sort of the first time
innerly play the Giants went Yankee Stadium. When inaly play happened,
Barry Bonds hit a ball about eight hundred feet in
Yankee Stadia. I don't you recall that it was it
It went to the upper deck and they estimated only
went They officially gave it three hundred and eighty five feet.

(31:16):
It's the it's in the upper deck and he go
to YouTube, guys and plug it in. It is. It's
one fartherest sor runs you're ever gonna see. I mean,
Barry Bonds again, crush this ball, which is you know,
it's you know, it's part of the fun of interleague
play is you get to these home runs you you're
not gonna get very often, right because the Giants didn't

(31:37):
go to the Yankee Stadium before an interaly play. Uh
and I guess probably back when they were playing in
New York. So he hit he hit this ball like
almost out of the stadium. It was incredible.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I made it to one San Francisco Giants game years ago.
You love this story, Jeff, because you're a degenerate gambler
just like me.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
And I go to the game.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
The Giants are host the Colorado Rockies, and there's a
random guy in the row behind me and he's talking
to his friend. He's like, oh, I love gambling on sports.
He's like, I'm a big NBA gambler. I'm all over it.
And he's just, you know, waxing poetic about himself. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm big on Boveda.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I almost turned up around, like what kind of gambler
are you?

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Oh with the sticker of the new place.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
That was the new place?

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah yeah, wow beautiful. I love Thatveda. You're like, yeah,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I don't know what. Why didn't turn around, Like, are
you serious right now? Man? Come on.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Maybe it's just one of those words that nobody has
said out loud in front of him, and you just
kind of go with it.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
I guess I guess that's certainly fair that maybe he
never said it for anyone. But I'll just tell you this, man,
the people that randomly talk about sports gambling are pretty
bad at it. Like you like if you're just out
and someone's like, yeah, man, I sports gamble, like you
would know that crack gambles, Like how would.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
You know that you would?

Speaker 4 (33:12):
The people that I don't tell my friends, I'm like,
you know what I'm up today, guys. Someone asked me
we they're bringing bright up. I'm like, yeah, sure, A
gamble a lot. I might be like I'm watching this ring.
Like today we had a party at the house for
my daughter's softball team and there was like a put
on a random college baseball game. I was like, I
have the over in this game. I mean, I'm not
like I didn't tell anyone what it was. I'm so like,

(33:33):
I have the over. I hope a lot of run
scoring this game. Yeah. Like I mean people that are
just like in the middle of a football baseball state
and be like, yep, I'm big Bovada. Do you say
boveda big Boveda, Yeah, Boveda boveda gambler. You're like, yeah,
it's like it.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
I don't think you're that much into it. By the way,
how did you?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Because Chris said something that made me think about this.
It's one of those words that you think it's pronounced
a certain way and then you might find out it's
pronounced differently. How do you pronounce like do you say
rye dell? You know, like the helmet brand. I was
watching NFL Network years ago, Jeff, because everybody, anytime I've

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played grade school, high school football, everybody said rye dell.
And I saw a commercial on NFL Network and this
is how they pronounced it. Protect that's the official voiceover guy.
Of course he's pronouncing it right.

Speaker 7 (34:36):
Like.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I was stunned.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
I might have a story about my first time seeing
the word or dervs written down and trying to say it.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
But that that's fair. It's friendships. It's like, that's fine. Wow, right,
listen to that.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Listen Riddell.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I was like, what, it's an eye though.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, I've only heard people say right now there was
a big ry dell because that used to be right
on the front of your helmet.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Yeah, I had bucket Yeah wow, right, Dell changed my world.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
So maybe that's gonna be the same thing for that
guy at the San Francisco Giants game when he's he
hears a commercial it's like Bovada and he's like, whoa,
what I thought it was Boveda all this time? All right,
we got a lot to do coming up next, A
team has an outside the box idea that does make
a lot of sense when you stop and think about it.

(35:35):
We'll share it with you next. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
Now stay with us right here on Fox Sports Radio.
It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
No.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
So the Chiefs Chiefs are thinking outside the box over here, Jeff,
I like it.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
So with the new kickoff rules where it basically penalizes
you if you are kicking the ball into the end zone, right,
if it's a touchback, that's not what you want as
the kicking team. So Dave Tobe, the special teams coach
for the Chiefs, he's thinking of saying, you know what,
instead of having Harrison Butker, who is an outstanding touchback

(36:15):
kickoff guy, right, he can boot him through the end zone,
no problem. That's not good anymore. The rules have changed,
so he's thinking about maybe having his safety Justin Reid
Yea be the kickoff guy where it gives him another
tackler on the field. It makes a lot of sense.
I want to know if they're going to do it
or many other teams start doing it like that.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
So Justin Reid is their backup kicker, and he is
kicked off for them. He has actually made an extra
point for them. So here is one character to this
is the NFL rule. It's different than assent to the
XFL role, which is where this came from. So Sam Schwarztein,
who works for Amazon now, was a former center Stanford

(37:00):
was Andrew Luck center at Stanford, and he created the
rules for the XFL. He tweeted out at schwartz Stein's
the XFL kicker had no restrictions to where they can
run to the NFL kicker. Kicker in the NFL cannot
cross the fifty yard line till the ball is caught.
So that means that they're really not going to be

(37:20):
part of a lot of tackles unless they're as they
are now, sort of the last line of defense, right,
So maybe that would eliminate the need to again to
have to get rid of but Ker to make those kicks.
So now you can argue that if the kicker is
you know, at the fifty and you want someone that

(37:42):
can immediately go run and tackle someone, yeah you will
still keep you still keep reading there. But this is guys,
this is why the Chiefs are so good because they
think of everything. They're they're outside the box organization. Nothing
is off limits as an idea to Andy Reid, and
we hear the way he talks about I mean, look,

(38:03):
since I feel like coaches and belliji interviews, but he
gave an interview to I think it was the Kelsey
Brothers where he mentioned that, you know, he stole a
play from like a high school janet or something right
or like someone you know, like someone drew a play
for him and he used it. Okay, But the fact
is that is who Indy Reid is. When I was
with the Chief of twenty thirteen, he had hired Chris Alt,

(38:23):
the former Nevada coach, to be like a special assistant
sort of consultant, because he wanted to learn how to
run some of that zone read that the Nevada.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Was doing with it was what was it was Colleda
k like the pistol he wanted.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Yeah, the pistol zone read essentially right. It was more
of a front side read than a backside read. And
he has people on staff that are just there to study,
you know, fine plays obviously famously used to play in
the Super Bowl from like the nineteen forty Rose Bowl.
They were fined every way to get better. And this
just shows you when when Dave Tobe there especially Guy Corner,
was talking about how they just study everything and they're

(38:59):
prepared for all these moments better than other teams are.
And if it includes Justin Reid kicking off, and it
will include Justin kicking off, I know people's minds, you know,
turn to the Harrison Bucker stuff and did nothing to
do with Harrison Bucker's speech at the commencement speech. No,
it's not that the Chiefs don't care that they they're
here to win championships. So I thought that was the
unique part about it is that they were willing to

(39:20):
talk about it and be open about their ideas and
the way that they view that that new play.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, no, it makes sense, and it's kind of weird
where it's a lot like a free throw in the NBA, right, Like,
if you're the guy taking the free throw, you can't
cross the free throw line until the ball hits the rim.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
So it's that kind that concept.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
When it comes to Woever's kicking off, you can't cross
the fifty until the ball is picked up. Huh, that's interesting.
I don't I don't love that rule, but I get it.
And even if you I'd rather have Justin Reid as
the last line of defense than Harrison Butker so they
still might do it. But I love to your point
that they're just even thinking about this, right, They're thinking
about every little thing and not leaving anything that could

(40:07):
give you a possible advantage. They're not leaving that on
the the cutting room floor, right, They're gonna use everything.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Again, do you use every advantage they can? So, so
the Chiefs do. I like, by the way, Travis Kelsey's
speech at at the podium and at the Whitehouse of
their day, it was very good, It was good appropriate,
it was very absolutely all right.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Coming up next, it's an experiment that makes sense, But
is it gonna work?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
All right?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
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So we've got the buffalo bills here. Jeff, ouh, gosh,
you're freaking giants.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
What the hell? Nice little two run knock? Goodness? You
got all the luck going your way today? What's up
with this? Jeff?

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I'm sorry that my mediocre baseball team is not helping
you out today.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Oh my gosh, so annoying. I'm just I'm in an
annoyed state of gambling here today. When a couple that
come from behind wins went against me earlier today.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Three of them.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Can you believe that three come from behind wins messed
up different bets from me.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
That's not good.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
I'm very sorry, Brian. I have look baseball, it is
just miserable to bet on it really is. It is,
and there's nothing you can do about it. It just
absolutely sucks.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
The Rays came back on the Orioles. The Diamondbacks came
back on the Mets. The Royals came back on the
pod race. I lost every one of those, and now
I need the He's to come back on the Giants,
and they're like, why would we do that?

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Though?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Why why would we do that? So yeah, that's it's annoying.
The peak of annoyance right there. But let's get to
the Bills here, Jeff, enough about my annoyances. The Bills
they have signed Gable Steveson. So Gable Steveson. He's an
Olympic gold medalist in wrestling. He's a two time NCAA
wrestling champ. He has no prior football experience. According to ESPN,

(42:28):
he put on cleats for the first time when he
worked out for the Bills recently, twenty four years old,
five eleven to sixty six, listed as a defensive tackle.
You're gonna need to bump that weight up here, Jeff,
five eleven two sixty six.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
You played in the trenches. What do you think about
this experience?

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Oh? I love five eleven two sixty six, So splat, No, Look,
this is a byproduct of allowing practice squads to be expanded, right,
you have, I believe sixty twelve to sixteen practice squad
player used to be eight, right, and so now you

(43:08):
can give yourself the opportunity to have a player like
this get through training camp, raise your your ninetieth guy
in the roster, and allows you time to develop. You know,
previously you know you're not keeping a developmental former wrestler
on your practice squad. You're just not. You don't enough
to got to do that. But but now you do.
And you know, maybe it pants out, maybe doesn't. But

(43:31):
I like that outside the box thinking. Look very famously,
Jordan Malatta, the Eagles left tackle right never played football,
so Eagles drafted him so like and he's you know,
it's Pro Bowl, all Pro caliber left tackle now, So
that's not That's not always the case, right, Not every

(43:51):
every story is like that. But I like that they're
being outside the box. And you can afford to do
this now with the way the practice schedules line up.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, I love the experiment. Experiment. I don't know that
it's gonna work. He's got to add a lot of pounds,
which he can do. But five eleven, two sixty six,
just to give you an idea, some of the defensive
tackles on the Bills right now, Daikon Jones. He's listed
at three hundred and twenty pounds is what Daikwon Jones

(44:20):
is listed at.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
So there's that we're gonna have to add some lb.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
He's gonna have to play full back, probably line back
or ish. Even it's five eleven, I mean, that's Aaron Donald,
but that Aaron Donald is the Free Show, so you
can't ever model anything off Aaron Donald.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, I'm looking at Uh, this is weird. I don't
know why they have height listed this way on the
NFL dot com for the Bill's website.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
I thought he was six ' one. It's five eleven. Huh.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
The wrestler Steve said, yeah, he's listed at five eleven,
but twenty four years old was an amazing wrestler. He
was eighty five and two at the University of Minnesota,
and those two losses were when he was a freshman,
two time heavyweight champion right in college, right two time
NCAA wrestling champ, and one of those years was knocked out.

(45:16):
He was number one, but it was a COVID year,
so he might be a three time wrestling champ. So
he's got he's got some tools to work with. But man,
you gotta add some pounds. You're just gonna get shoved around.
I don't care how savvy or quick you are. That's
just too light.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
So I do think again, they're gonna, you know, they'll,
they'll finally put weight on it. But I mean, do
you want Look, this is maybe full offensive defensive lineman
right now, but like if you're just sort of starting
from scratch, it's not the position. It's a good spot,
good position to play if you starting from scratch. So

(45:53):
that makes sense to put him there, and you know
he's not he's not benef my offensive line. Obviously, he's
probably not quick enough to be lined back. You'll get
full back, but the Bills don't really use fullback on
their offense. And maybe they are now, but look, you
bring them in the camp and see what happens. Man,
Why not?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Right not? Yeah, sure, you're taking a flyer on the guy.
If it doesn't work out, doesn't cost you hardly anything.
So why not it doesn't?

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
It made me think of we talked about this, remember
Austin Rivers where he said I can take thirty players
right now in the NBA and throw them in the NFL.
It just made me think, I don't know if he
was like, see here we go, no previous experience, no
cleats that he's in the NFL, getting a shut.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
I was gonna tweet this out, but I didn't because
I just didn't want the dummies to reply to me.
Brian is I watched PJ. Washington player for the Mavericks.
I could do what PJ. Washington doesn't offense.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Yeah, I could sit in the corner and have them
throw me the basketball ten a couple threes. Now, of
course he's better than that. Guys don't come at me.
He drives the lane. He plays defense, but like half
of his possession he just stand in the corner. I
could absolutely stand in the corner, Brian and shoot a
three pointer.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
It's the Celtics offense that we've talked about, right, except
they do that toten.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
The problem is the difference is Luca and Kyrie are
like getting into the lane and then throwing out to PJ.
Washington versus Celtics are five out. Oh my god, you
know what I mean, Like with Tatum fifty feet from
the basket. No, I could definitely PJ. Washington and I
could stand in the corner. Now, couldn't play a defense
I could do. I could. I would be a I
could be a heck of a boxer outer, Brian, you

(47:31):
an't gonna find out.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, better than.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Me at boxing out In high school from Los Angeles.
I played in high school basketball in Los Angeles. We
had in our league. It's just oddly enough Westchester High
School that they were number one in the country for
a long large part of my high school career. To
be is by seventy they'd seven guys go Division one
off one team and they just smoked us. So they

(47:55):
had Trevor Riza was on their team like they were,
they were big. I've played in tournaments, tournament as a kid, like,
played some seven footers before. You know, the box out
doesn't It doesn't really help when you play guys like that. Yeah.
I learned pretty quickly that when you play a team
like Westchester and guy like Trevor Reza or you, uh,

(48:16):
you play a seven footer in a in a in
a big time tournament in Vegas. Yeah, you know what,
being a good box roder doesn't. It doesn't do much
for you.

Speaker 7 (48:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
It's one of those where you're like it's over the
back and they're like, I'm not making any contact with you.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
I can do this.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
I can just reach over the top of you and
get the rebound and it's totally fine.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
But correct.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, and how about this. You've got Bill's head coach,
Sean McDermott. He's a two time national high school wrestling champion,
so maybe it's he loves the wrestling. So maybe with
Gable Stevens Steveson. Now I didn't know this either. I
read up on the dude. He was named after.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
The the the legendary Iowa coach in Gable, so that's.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Where he got his name. Like, think about that. He
went to Minnesota like wrestlings in his freaking blood. He's
he's named after a wrestler.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
But we'll see what happens in football.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
It would be fun to watch up when they when
they eliminate the preseason though, and all the officers and
workouts and stuff. These stories will be hard to come by, Brian,
because you just don't have You won't to have any
time for this for these guys to get better that
that story was earlier this week. Correct the moment. Okay,
we have we got time.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Okay, yeah, we got time.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
I'm checking my clock because I'm gonna go I'm gonna
it's gonna be long.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Let you know, Okay, you're all about clock integrity. The
suits just saluted you with that, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
So, the report came out early this week that the
NFL PA was looking at adjusting the off season schedule.
So as it currently stands right now, the off season
schedule is like the easiest thing that we do is
professional football players. It is quote voluntary. It's not always right.
It's voluntary. Just like your bosses, Hey, it's voluntary to
come in this day. You're like, he kind of wants

(50:06):
me to come in, right. So it's about nine weeks
plus a three day mini camp, okay, And it is
four to six hours a day, and it's three to
four days a week. It's not the weekends. It's you know,
Monday through Thursday, Tuesday through Thursday. That's the schedule. And
during that time it's a you know, casual time to

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do some team bonding, some camaraderie, build up a little
bit of connectivity with your teammates. It's a good time
to learn the playbook without any stress of the regular
season of training camp and the NFL players have tried
for years to get rid of the off season program.
I don't know why, because again it's just a it's

(50:49):
a fun time to be through teammates in the spring,
brind without any stresses of training camp. Well, the regular season.
It's when a lot of the you know, the chemistry
things that we talk about happen in the ausest of program.
It used to start, by the way, in March, mid March,
I go all the way through the basically June, and
it was you know, there were no time on it.
So we've certainly cut back a lot on the Officerson
program over the years because NFL players again don't seem

(51:12):
to like it. And when they have these negotiations with
owners and they say to the owners, hey, we don't
want to do offseason workouts. Brian, what do the owners
state to them? You think.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
The ownership to say that they don't want to do
these offseason workouts. Yeah, I don't know if ownership would care.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
They don't care, Brian. They care zero percent. They care
if you show up on Sunday for Week one. They
make zero dollars off the office and program r zero dollars.
They do not care one bit if the players want
to give it up. So every CBA. We give up
less and less officers and program. And I've seen this
get zero return for it. We don't get like an

(51:57):
extra percent of the salary cap. We get nothing. And the
owners will gladly trade, will gladly trade it. They don't care.
It has nothing to do with them, you know what
I mean. In fact, they'll save money not to pay
us lessa OTAs won't get paid very much, which is
which is fine, but guys have workout bonuses and whatnot.
So the report comes out that players want to eliminate
the officing program in favor of a ramp up period

(52:21):
before training camp that will begin in mid June or
early July. And players say, like they did during COVID, Okay, well, Brian,
during COVID, they did the ramp up period at the
end of July when training camp would normally start. In
this new program, they would do the ramp up period
in mid June. So NFL players who again off January first,

(52:44):
let's say, right, last game of the season, come back
April twentieth, work for nine weeks, go back home for
the summer, come back for training camp. NFL players now
apparently want to start June fifteenth, and go all the
way through January first, and you're trading sort of this

(53:06):
stress free environment for more training camp or training camp.
You're in a hotel, you have you're there from you know,
seven to ten o'clock at night. Like, I don't understand
why players in the simplest form would want to trade
stress free workouts for high stress workouts. Okay, when you

(53:27):
already have you already have training camp coming up, and
then Brian, you're gonna get there in their June fifteenth
and you're thenk it's now going to be July thirty first,
you will have been in training camp for six weeks,
you will not have hit anyone in practice yet, and
you still have three weeks to your first preseason game.
I mean it just from practically speaking, it's a terrible idea,

(53:48):
and it's all because the NFLPA wants to have a
win with its players, because they don't win anything else.
They don't win. Negotiations w hit the owners very off,
and they want to hold this up and say, look, look, players,
we won you guys know more often than workouts. And

(54:08):
it was also framed around the idea that the majority
of NFL players agree with this. The players I've talked
to and the people that I know that have talked
to players, I've heard zero players that want this. So
I don't know where this is at. I don't know
why this is something that the NFL players feel they need. Again.
I don't think there's something they need, and it seems

(54:29):
foolish to give this up for nothing in return. If
you're giving this up for eighteen games, which is I
think certainly gonna happen pretty soon, is that a fair trade?

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Is it a fair trade?

Speaker 4 (54:40):
No? Offson workouts for another whole freaking game week. Now,
If you're telling me that you're gonna get again another
two percent of the salary cap for adding games, great,
that's how it should work. But if you're gonna get
the same percent of the salary cap for eighteen games
and now you have to do offiction program, congratulations, guys.
What a negotiation you guys? Did you know?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
It?

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Just it frustrates the heck out of me, Brian, because
I feel like players they don't think about all the
things that all this sort of how this all affects
them in the long run, right, it's very short term,
which I get it. Look, I was a player, I
understand that. The last part about this too, Brian. I

(55:22):
know you don't have kids, so you know you you
don't follow really a schedule that revolves around your kids'
school right, right, And you know a lot of times
now for players to have kids, right, you know, you're
you're in the offices in program while your kids are
in school, and it sort of ends the same time
that your kids school ends, right for the school year,
and so then the summer months can be spent your

(55:44):
training obviously, but you know, a family vacation right, time
with the wife and kids and whatnot. And it's it's
important because you know, from September through January you're working.
From you know, then again from April May June you're working,
and so having that time with the family I think
is really important and your wife needs need that, right,
Your wife needs a little bit of a break from

(56:05):
probably watching the kids all the time for you to
be home and take them on trips and play time
with your kids. Well, if you go back June fifteenth,
you ain't doing that anymore.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I know, the family part of it is a big deal.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
And and also you know not that no one negotiates
for the coaches and This is not a thing on
the coaches. But you know, July is a month off
for the coaches, right. They don't have the time we
have off. They go from again, we're talking about NFL terms.
People say, well, I don't get it. Two weeks off.
We're not talking about your job. Okay, I'm talking about
NFL job. You know, coaches don't get any break, right.

(56:35):
They go right from the season. They have to review
their players and their film to then draft stuff and
OTAs and everything like that, and July is time for
them too. I had an offensive line coach on a team, Brian.
He had his keys in his pocket on the final
OTA practice and went to his car after practice and
drove to Montana and said and said, if you need me,

(56:59):
here's a number of call me. I'll talk to you
when you get back for training camp. That's right, And
again we're professionals. I don't even talk to my off
it's a line coach every day, so I didn't. I
didn't see him again until training camp started. Like it's
time for coaches to get away too. And I think
that this is not looked. It's just why, what is
the if the purpose is to get a win? Quote unquote, Win,

(57:23):
I just what wain are we getting? Man?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Yeah, no, yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Man, it's a hollow w if this is what ends
up being the case, because yeah, you laid it out.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Don't like it.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
I am pro our prior association. I think they try
the best that they can, but I think it's it's
it's a difficult job because we have seventy hundred players
and seventeen hundred opinions, and it's hard to get everyone
the same page. But I really do feel passionately that
we do not we do not sort of trade things

(57:58):
well enough in the negotiation.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
If this was like a baseball card trade like you got,
Let's put it in modern terms, like like the NFL
got an Aaron Judge rookie card, you know, and the
NFLPA is getting like a couple of utility infielders, and like, eh,
look at what we did, Look at what we pulled

(58:21):
off over here, and you're like, yeah, wow, impressive. Let's
find out what Adam Kaplan thinks about this. Jeff Right
FSR NFL Insider Inside the Birds podcast. He'll join us
next to talk about this issue and more. NFL topics.
That's on the way. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now
keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. It

(58:41):
is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian now
hanging out with you. Like to welcome in Adam Kaplan,
FSR NFL Insider Inside the Birds Podcast.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Welcome in Adam.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
So, Jeff and I were just talking about this the NFLPA.
They are looking to remove spring OTAs in favor of
an extended training camp.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Jeff is passionate against this.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
What are your thoughts on, oh, this move by the NFLPA.

Speaker 11 (59:13):
So, look, I could go back heavy reporting in the
twenty eleven CBA negotiation talking to clubs NFL about it,
and I can just tell you that the owners were
so happy when the players like one of the givebacks
they want is they wanted to light off season. They're like, Okay, yeah,
what do we need to sign good? We want that
good good doesn't cost us money. Then that's just summarizing

(59:34):
the information I got. Look, I don't think it's good.
Coaches hate it, and to be honest with you, they
think it's awful for player development. Gms don't like it,
and I'm gonna be interested to see, you know. I
know I've talked to coaches about it, right, and they're like, no,
I don't want this, but I know I don't have
a say in it for the most part. Well, the

(59:54):
gms do that. I mean they deal with the owner.
Of course, TEA presidents do, but it's really not their call.
But you know, overall, it's it's just the way of
the world. Today's player once a later offseason, they don't
want to be bothered with stuff. I've talked to players
about it as well, particularly in the last couple of years.
They just want to be able to have a real

(01:00:14):
off season where they're.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Not talking football all the time. Jeff could obviously, let's
talk about.

Speaker 11 (01:00:18):
It more as a former player, but that is one
thing that I find consistent going back to the eleven CBA, which,
by the way, those negotiations were brutal. They were very
negative and nasty. I'm talking to both sides. But the
one thing, the one big thing that came out of
the eleven CBA those negotiations with turn of the player
side was they wanted less football in the off season.

(01:00:40):
I'm not saying I'm not taking a side here. That
was the one thing. And then clearly the NFLPA is
looking at that again.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Adam, you know this the twenty eleven CBA, we went
from working you know, coming in March fifteenth and spend
tenless hours there. I hear you, man, I cut off
six weeks and like half of the time. Your your
first point is what I just said to Brian, is
that we keep trading away to the Oxton program for
what What are we getting in return for trading our time?

(01:01:09):
Because the nfls will always give us this time off.
They don't care. They make money about this, so they
will continue to do. What are we getting in return?
Are we getting a percent for the you know, more
for the for the eighteen game schedule. No, We're gonna
get any more money for that. So I'm just tired
of the players trading without the OST program. That is
super easy. It's super easy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
It's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
It's with your teammates, it's like, you know, no pads
are on. It's a good time to learn and camaraderie. Man.
And so from what when I've heard from players, Adam
is they don't know where this majority of players BS
came from. Because the players I've talked to again. They're
older players. They don't want this new schedule. So I
don't know where this is coming from.

Speaker 11 (01:01:49):
Man, uh, I'm not sure, but I could tell you
that I've talked to probably I don't know, nine or
ten coaches about this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
The last week.

Speaker 11 (01:01:58):
Well, they don't want to say to say it has
not gone over Well, look it didn't go over well
the last time in eleven Cbay, they're more willing to understand.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Okay, look, if we have to adust more world, just more.
But let me ask you this, Jeff, as a former.

Speaker 11 (01:02:11):
Player, I kind of well, I don't know you that well,
so I don't want to speak for you, but I can.
I'm interest to see how you're gonna react to this.
Would you rather have a longer training camp because this
is where.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
It's gonna go?

Speaker 11 (01:02:22):
Answer is no, No, say that's got you?

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
What you let me say it?

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Well, madam good? Why would you? Why would you want
to come in June fifteenth and work like again for
months in a row without a Breakty, it'll be in
this it look in the pros News schedule. If we're
assuming it's eighteen games and two preseason games. Okay, yes,
you go back June fifteenth, it's now July thirty. First,

(01:02:52):
you haven't hit a soul in training camp because you
barely have hit anyone, right, because you're not bad yet,
and your first preseason game is not till August twentieth, still,
and you've been there six weeks already. This like again, like,
the players just don't think any of this out, man,
They just they never do. It is not a good idea,
And I'm curious if this actually ends up happening. I
think it will because the NFLPA wants wins and this

(01:03:15):
is considered a win for them. But again, I don't
look the last CBA was ratified about like fifty votes. Man,
Like players are not in agreement with a lot of
what the PA has been doing.

Speaker 11 (01:03:25):
Well, I wish we had more time because I would
like to know your your thoughts on the new director.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
I didn't know how about this. I didn't know we
had a new PA president. Well, I know Trenor was
a player, right, but like like a new d Smith,
they didn't announce it. No one told us. They just
voted in, like got a new person. I didn't know it.
I had no idea, I really no idea.

Speaker 11 (01:03:49):
We can talk some of it maybe one day, you know,
I wish uh, I wish I came out to LA
or we could be together for to do it. Yeah,
just taking an hour or an hour half about Jeff
and I and our stories of dealing with the NFL
and NFLPA.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I don't I call.

Speaker 11 (01:04:04):
Stuff down the middle, but I could just give you
some of the nonsense that I have to deal with
in my career that stuff. You go, this didn't happen.
I go, No, it did happen. Yeah, I like it's
the lack of communication and direction. The lack of communication
is just something that I've I've it's just it's just ridiculous.
But to move this forward, what's going to happen if
this passes? And I agree that that this the fact

(01:04:26):
that PA is bringing this, it should pass. But there's
gonna have to be a break from and if this
starts in twenty twenty five, they'll have to be a
break between training camp and whatever this like mini offseason
is going to be. It's gonna have to be a
break because Jeff, as you say, you're not gonna go
straight without a break.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
From June fifteenth through January like that. It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
That's way too long, right there, no doubt it's Adam
Kaplan with us FSR NFL insider. Let me throw something
non nflpa.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
At you, Adam. How about a couple of wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
They both got extensions this week, Nico Collins with the Texans,
Jayleen Waddle with the Dolphins. You look at both of
them going into year four. Just let's talk stats, let's
talk production. Who do you think has the bigger twenty
twenty four between those two receivers?

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
All right, so let's go to Nico Collins.

Speaker 11 (01:05:13):
So, Nico Collins was a guy in Michigan who was
a big guy that wasn't a speed guy, but could
get separation downfield. He had some nagging injuries the first
couple of years. Also, the quarterback play for CJ. Stratta
had not been good. And I remember talking to a
receivers coach who put me on when he was drafted.
He goes, I'm telling you're gonna look smart if you
talk about him. And I remember talking to the guy
over the first year, so I'm like, man, what has

(01:05:34):
happened to I said, you told me all this stuff
would happen he goes, look, I can't predict injuries, but
you look at the quarterback play before you tell me
I was wrong. I'm like, okay, well see what happened
when he got an elite quarterback. Yeah, I'm saying CJ.
Strata as the lead. He was incredible, maybe one of
the best rookie seasons of covering this. This is is
twenty five years that I've seen and Nico Collins he
was incredible. I mean, he had a great year. He

(01:05:56):
finally started to realize his production. But Jayalen Waddle from
day one, it's been more, way more consistent. So Brian
to move this along here, there's no question that Watle's
just been a better football player. But they play two
different styles of play. I mean, Janleen Wattles more of
what we call Z receiver movement and the guy with
the Texans is h is more of what we call

(01:06:16):
an X receiver, a single side receivers.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
It's it's really a good story.

Speaker 11 (01:06:20):
By the way, Nico Collins, I was like, oh, you know,
I don't know if it's going to happen, and he's
had a breakout season and BOYD talk about urgency.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
He knew it. He had a ball out and he did.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
With the new CBA schedule, Brian, we I mean, Adam,
we will not have offseason workout holdouts. I would imagine
quite quite like we do now any of the guys
and look holdouts a strong term because it's all voluntary.
But you know, the Bengals wide receivers, I you anything
really kind of catch your attention as something that might
you know, extended into training camp.

Speaker 11 (01:06:50):
I'd say this though the mandatory camps. We got about
eight to ten teams that have mandatory camps.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
This week.

Speaker 11 (01:06:56):
We'll learn more about that than the week after and
two weeks or the rest of them. Then they're off
for the sou The players to watch are t Higgins,
who's I'd be I'd be kind of suppressed if he
got an extension. The Bengals are are not a cash
rich team like the Eagles and some other clubs. Brandon
Ayuk the boy the Niners want this deal done. It's
a matter of the value of him and how he
sees in how the club sees it. But he's he's

(01:07:17):
a phenomenal football player. By the way, they drifted, they
have like a lot of receivers. It's kind of interesting
Jamar Chase, watch him ceedee lamb watch him. The big
one is Justin Jefferson. He's got it. He's got to
get better than A J. Brown Steel no offense to
A J. Brown is a great player. Justin Jefferson is
a gold jacket player. He's on a on a trajectory
to be a Hall of Fame player. And it's just

(01:07:39):
ironic that Justin Jefferson should be an Eagle. The Eagles
passed on him and took Jalen Rager and Viking fans
and Rick Spiel and I got to give. I had
to bring it up. He had to bring it up.
And then that's but a J and that necessitary necessary,
maybe the necessary decision for a J.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Brown, A J.

Speaker 11 (01:07:54):
Brown Bible. What a trade that was. Titan fans don't
want to hear about it, but A J. Brown's been
an absolute stud. But AJ Brown's miick at thirty two
million a year, the highest paid receiver turns with average.
I expect Justin Jefferson to beat that when he gets
this steal done, I expected done by training Kip.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
If not well before.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Man, that's just cruel right there, Jalen Rager instead of
Justin Jenness.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
I'm sorry, I know, but that's the truth, man, it
is the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
I'm just saying for Eagles fans, right like, that's a
cruel reality.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
And it was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I was just gonna say John Ross top ten, pig,
he's in camp.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Crazy, but he was trying to.

Speaker 11 (01:08:27):
By the way, I'm there twenty seventeen draft, so her
the Eagles won the Super Bowl. John Ross. I was
at that draft in Philly. Two major things happened, one
to both were not No one expected it. John Ross
got late first round, early second round grades. He went
top ten. And as it was my last year at ESPN,
I told Bill Pollie and my friend, the Hall of

(01:08:49):
Fame general manager, I said, and Bill was not wrong.
New of us was wrong. Two things can actually be right.
At the same time, I told Bill he's going in
the top ten. I didn't know where he was going
to go. Bill strongly said, he goes, he goes. He
thought it was ridiculous, but he explained, because a lack
of starts, he goes. It's a mistake. Bill was right now.
I was ready went number two. You could have pushed
me over with a feather when the Niner When the

(01:09:10):
Niners traded out and the the Bears traded up. Nobody
knew the Bears kept it quiet. That was one of
the shocking things about that drift. I could not believe
that Truisky went number two.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Yeah, I know it. We still can't believe that.

Speaker 11 (01:09:24):
But uh and then in the playoffs, by the way,
real quick, they mean the playoffs of Bears did his
second year in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Yeah, but not quite what you know, Mahomes turned out
to be. No, that was a mistake. No, that looks hindsight.

Speaker 11 (01:09:36):
Yeah, but another thing, and one of these days we'll
talk about the real Mahome story. Let me just how
just how the Chiefs were on them, but other teams
were in the Seahawks and others. It was fascinating when
you really get the truth of how against a lot
of teams were on Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Pretty interesting, Yeah, very interesting stuff. Maybe next week, Cap,
sure you can't feel sure?

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Yeah? Man, all right, Cap, We'll have a good weekend. Man,
We'll see you all right there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
He is Adam Kaplan FSR NFL insider Manzi blans with
us as well. Manzi, what is the latest embracing for
the worst with these freaking Yankees on June second.

Speaker 9 (01:10:11):
You probably should. It doesn't seem to be going that
well for you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
As this that go way at all? What is up
with today? My goodness, something's in the air.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
I told you my allergies, Yankees.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Something's in the air, Brian, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
I don't know. Listen, there's still a chance.

Speaker 8 (01:10:28):
It's top of the ninth inning in San Francisco, Giants
up five to three.

Speaker 9 (01:10:31):
There's still a chance. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 8 (01:10:34):
The Mariners have definitely added some more runs to secure
their win over the Angels. It's five zero, bottom of
the eighth inning in Seattle. The Dodgers also added another
run of Freddie Freeman's sackfly. So it's four zero at
home against the Rockies, top of the ninth inning. Back
to the Yankees Giants game. So Blake Snell was removed
in the fifth inning.

Speaker 9 (01:10:53):
He was a starter.

Speaker 8 (01:10:54):
Apparently he left due to left growing tightness, and you
mentioned that that you could see him kind of grabbing
is growing on his way, So official left growing tightness
is why he left. NASCAR Cup Series just ended. Austin Sindrike.
When's it in the last slap at Gateway out of
Illinois at the RBC Canadian Open. Robert McIntyre yup, still

(01:11:14):
in the lead, sixteen under par overall, Ben Griffin one
shot back, Victor Perez now two shots back, and in
the WNBA the Connecticut Son perfect in and note to
start the season. They officially went today sixty nine to
fifty against the Dream.

Speaker 9 (01:11:29):
Back to you guys, good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Stuff, Matzi, I've got great news for you next hour. Ooh,
I'm excited. Great news for you. Excited might be life changing.

Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Oh no, wow?

Speaker 9 (01:11:41):
Is it about cheese?

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
It's I cannot reveal anything. Jes yet it's in a while.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
They're pretty good.

Speaker 8 (01:11:47):
Really, I think they're like that's this argument we always have,
like if I'm gonna get a cheesy snack, I'm not
gonna pick a cheese.

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
But here's here's the thing. It's your your preference in
snack changes when you have kids, because fair you gain
that that parent fifteen you know.

Speaker 8 (01:12:02):
Stair, I mean, I don't know about that affair.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
It's most yeah, you just because what happens. But when
they're about a year old, they start eating like like
real human food, that solid food you just start eating
like oh, like oh, macaroni is pretty good. Like, you know,
you don't eat macaroni, I would imagine for a couple
of years. You know, if you become an adult and
you start eat macaroni again, grow cheese, sandwiches and cheese,
it's and goldfish like things that you just go eat
for so many years are back in the rotation.

Speaker 9 (01:12:26):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
I get it. That makes sense, it does. It makes
a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
Right, I'm not down to the whole pack of cheeses
by myself, but I might help my kids have something,
you know.

Speaker 9 (01:12:34):
Sure, Yeah, I was a monster.

Speaker 12 (01:12:36):
I was so happy yesterday we gave my daughter some
Golden grams.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Yes, so good.

Speaker 8 (01:12:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Yes. How often have you tried to get something in
rotation through your daughter?

Speaker 12 (01:12:50):
Incredibly often? And it always fails, always fails.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Really because Brian kids are like they'll tell you they
like something, the next day they hate it. It's really
it's very frustrating. Like they'll eat a whole thing of
strawberries one day, a whole container of them, a whole cart,
and I'll go buy more and they will eat them
for two weeks. It's like it's like I just like
it's so and then whatever Costco has in rotation. That's
basically what my kids get now for.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Snacks and what did you call it, like the parent fifteen.
That's a common thing. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, I didn't
know that. It makes sense.

Speaker 12 (01:13:20):
Though, especially now everything's so expensive. Like, I'm not I'll
be damned if I'm wasting any food. So someone's eating that, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
A grilled cheese sandwich on just two pieces of white
bread with like two pieces of American cheese, but you know,
buttered on each side with the bread. Dude, I'm not
letting that go to waste.

Speaker 9 (01:13:39):
Now, yeah, you have to add may.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
I've done the male on the outside yet It's fine.
I'm not I'm not letting that go to waste. So
it goes into my body on top of what I'm
also going to eat. That's how that starts now, you know,
in the yellow four, five, six, and but now you
know now it's like you know chick flame nuggets. Oh
you got a couple left over all you do? Thank you?
You know it goes that direction.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Oh jeff, it looks like triples alley maybe a little uh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Can you put it back on? Is is? Ah?

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Do you get a one run triple?

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
There got one out, sack fly, let's tie this thing up.
What do you say?

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
I mean? It would be very giants. They've had some
some very unique and interesting uh ways to winning lose
games this year. Oh boy, to put it back on,
I turned it out. I was watching softball because uh,
we're a little little softball wager today.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
That's the equivalent of saying it's a lock, you know,
is when you're like, I should be good here, I'm
gonna wag ready, No, I hear you. We got one
at the plate here, we got.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
We're gonna blow this for sure. We got Soto and
then judge right, Soto, Judge Stanton. That's how it goes
for them. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Yeah, So back on now, we've got drama going on
all right. Coming up next, really interesting take from an
FSR campadre. I want to see if you're on board
with this or not. Jeff, we'll throw that all of
your way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Coming up next. It is Fox Sports Radio. Is what
Soto goes yard. Jeff Schwartz and Brian know stay with us.
It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian
No man. I think we were talking about the sequel
for Hey, jealousy. What did we say at the beginning
of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
It's aggressive jealousy?

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
Was that it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Jeff something like, yes, yeah, that's what's going on in
the w NBA, all these players raging against Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
We need the sequel from the Beastie Boys. No sleep
Till Brooklyn, No Sleep Till Bronx huh for the Bronx Bombers.
As the Yankees are going crazy here in the ninth
inning against your Giants.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
It's fitting for the Giants. It really is this. He
goes back to my point about Superstars. Right, so Wan
Soto has two home runs today, Leave Judge has two
home runs in the series, and Stanton has one them correct,
I believe on this and the Giants, I don't know

(01:16:09):
one home run for the series. I don't know zero,
like and I get they tried to get Aaron Judge.
They signed Arson Judge, but they tried to get Aaron Judge.
Do you remember that John Hayman or someone too?

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
It was so good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
The Giants signed Arson Judge, so they tried to get someone.
And I understand playing this ballpark and to be fair, well,
the Giants won the World Series. Those three seasons. It's
not like it was with a bunch of fragents that
I mean they traded for Hunter Pence. But for the
most part in the Barris you know, through like one game,
bas you should justify his whole contract in that one

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post in twenty twelve, I believe it was. But for
the most part it was homegrown players because they had
to have homegrown players. It's hard to sign fragans to
play in a ballpark where the ball doesn't travel as well.
I get that. But this again, this shows this game,
this series and the Yagas are really good though, like
this is they are. They were forty one nineteen heading

(01:17:05):
into this game tonight or today, they have a championship.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Roster, Brian, they really do.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
I think that's the first time we can say this
in a while. I know they've been close, but when
you look at the addition of Sodo and how important
that is to the lineup, and it just frees up
a lot of other players. Right The starting pitching this
year has been a lot better, and they're they're just
stacked this year. Like I would not surprise me if
they were, you know, left standing out of the American League.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Man that that sodo judge one two combo back to
back in the batting order.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
That's freaking nasty. Now let me throw something else at you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Because props to Bo Benz and our trusted producer, he
put this on my radar, so Colin Cowhard he had
to take this week where he was talking about in
the world of college football. He thinks that USC should
no longer play Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Yeah, I heard it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Yeah, now you know me, Jeff, I'm from South Bend,
lead Irish football.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
I was not a fan of this early on. But
the argument he makes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Just listen to this, the argument Coyhurd makes for USC
not to play Notre Dame going forward.

Speaker 7 (01:18:10):
If I was USC, I'd be like, Nah, been there,
done that. You want to join the Big ten Notre Dame,
then we'll play you. But I got Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State.
You ever gone to a Saturday night game in Penn State?
I have the white out, Good luck USC, three thousand
miles in that crowd, James Franklin and all those NFL
athletes Camp Randle on a Saturday night Columbus Eugene Husky Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
And then I got my rival.

Speaker 7 (01:18:35):
At the end of the year, and then I got
the conference championship, then I got the twelve team playoff.
I'm punting Notre Dame out of respect for Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
It makes a lot of sense. I hate to say it,
but man, you look at the new reality for USC
in the Big Ten. That's a lot of talent They've
got to play on top of Notre Dame in the
non conference.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
That's look. His main point of that was that he
said that the college football has killed tradition, right, like
they have no they no longer care about tradition, which
is true. There's no more audition college football. So why
does USC have to have this tradition of playing Notre
Dame Now? The way the schedule works that they play

(01:19:18):
in South Bend in October, and that the return game,
the game next year is in its last game of
the season November, they played home, Right, Notre Dame switches off.
They play the Lazies in game in California VRSUS USC
and Stanford, and they play the game in October at
home against one of those opponents. Right, this was a
reference to us. He's trying to ditch the LSU game

(01:19:40):
week one, which is very funny. Because Pete Carroll's team's
played everyone right now, that's the counter to this, is
Pete Carroll's teams, Man, they weren't shy about playing anyone Brian,
they played. They scheduled hard, you know. But I get
Calart's point. Man, you're playing this tough schedule and you
have LSU and Notre Dame. Yeah, it's a lot of

(01:20:01):
non conference games. It's not supposed to conference. The quickest
way for nerd aim by the way to join a
conference would be for Stanford USA to tell them we're
scheduling you until you join a conference.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Right right, Okay, lots to do. We'll get to the
NBA Finals matchup, Jeff. You and I are on opposite
sides here, huh. We'll go through our reasoning next.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
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The way tire buying should be all right, Jeff, So
your team MAVs in the NBA Finals. I and look,
you and I we've watched these playoffs very very closely,
and I'm I'm Team Celtics in this match. Aw I
am for a few reasons. One thing that stands out

(01:21:01):
to me is I think one of the major reasons
to doubt the Celtics is that they just let you
down too often. If you look at the teams that
they've faced, we look at their warts more than their strengths,
and their path has been cake let's just call it

(01:21:22):
what it is, been.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
A very very favorable path.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
No Jimmy Butler with the Miami series, Donovan Mitchell missed
a couple of games in the Cleveland series. No Jared Allen,
He's an all star that all matters. No Tyrese Haliburt
in the last two games for the Pacers. But you
look up and it's like you need to be reminded
that they've only lost two games in the Eastern Conference playoffs,

(01:21:46):
and we make it sound like they lost, you know,
five or six games, and they've barely skated, They've barely
gotten by in like a.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Close game seven.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
I just think Boston has graduated to championship or bust.
And it's a weird thing where it's a backhanded compliment
where we expect so much from Boston because they are
so talented, because they won sixty four games, that we're
just not okay with a night where they look lethargic,

(01:22:16):
or they're going through the motions and yet still win,
or like you should have won, buy more. You know,
we're just hard to please when it comes to us
watching the Boston Celtics, and so I think this that
was then, this is now.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Sure they've looked lethargic.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Sure they've looked unfocused at times against lesser opponents.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
These are the NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
They're facing the Dallas Mavericks with two great closers that
you detailed in Luca and Kyrie. I just don't see
how the Boston Celtics look the same way in the finals.
Getting Porzingis back this stage, the doubt that is out there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Left in ah this team.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Look at their home record the last three years in
the playoffs, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
That's extra motivation on top of it being the finals.
I just don't think you see an unfocused.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Team like you have at many times during the Eastern
Conference playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
I follow up on that the Celtics have I missed
the championships they have won recently.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Well that Vaps haven't either. We gotta go back to dirt.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
Right, No fair. I'm just curious because we talk about them.
Oh they're waiting for the finals. Guys, you know what
didn't matter. Everybody's the finals. They have to play hard
in the finals. They want to have any these lapses.
We talk about the Chiefs in that way three times
Super Bowl champions, right, we think about Georgia sometimes that
way in college football. Oh yeah, okay, they beat Akron

(01:23:51):
by eight, like what evs? You know they'll be The
Celtics have won zero championships with this roster. In fact,
they've won one championships. Is Larry Bird retired? Okay, So
we talk about them like they are destined to be
champions and they can skate through the playoffs because they're
just gonna go to the finals. And yeah, they'll they'll
they'll turn on out. Brian, I don't know, man, I

(01:24:14):
think style of play matters. When you were when when
a team is without their best player and you let
that team whether it was really start with the Cavs, right,
hang around that series without Mitchell. When you let the
Pacers hang around that series without Holly Burden, now they're
more well rounded offensively than we saw Cleveland. Is dude,

(01:24:34):
I have a problem with him, man, Like I think
style of play matters, and they they they just had
moments where there's a problem they've had with this coaching
staff and this offense of just ineptitude and offense. For
five minutes, they still put up on hundred that points.
So you're absolutely right, they're still winning these games, but
they can't have those laps against Dallas. And I don't

(01:24:57):
think they're a team that's a turn on and off
the switch team. What did they turn on the switch
to win a championship? They haven't yet, So it feels
like it's just too early for them to act this
way with any championships to back up that this is
what works for them. So that's that, you know, that's

(01:25:19):
sort of my biggest concern about this idea is like, again,
I this are supremely talented, but they play sometimes like
they're multiple time champions and Dallas doesn't. Dallas plays like,
hey man, this is we haven't won anything yet, And
so that's a big difference in the way I look
at this series.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
I would wonder this, right, if we play the if game.
This is just a theory, right, I wonder what would
have happened. Let's say the Celtics they had the hard
road like the MAVs had, and the MAVs had the
easy path that the Celtics had, Right, Like, let's just

(01:26:00):
flip flop the paths in the playoffs. I really wonder
if we're still getting this finals matchup, would we be
looking at the teams differently? Would there be a night
where Luca and Kyrie they lost focus, you know, they're
playing this team that is much lesser than them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Would we look at those teams differently? It's possible, right
it is. Now it sounds like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
I'm just going out of my way to absolve all
blame of the Boston Celtics, and I'm really not.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
I don't mean to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
They have been embarrassing at times, They've lost focus, they
haven't blown teams out like they should. I get that,
that's fine, but I think what happens is it's taken
way too far.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Where for the most part, the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Media, the talking heads, fans in general just dwell on
the deficiencies of the Celtics instead of their strengths. Like,
if you didn't watch basketball and you just went by
the popular comments, the popular opinions about the Celtics, you
would think this team sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
The expectations of this team are of one that has won,
as we mentioned, in multiple championships. Like they talk about
them in that manner, which is I mean, maybe it's
the media's fault for the hype and and so the
lack of the way we sort of give them the
credit that they deserved. You're actually right of the idea
that like that they get more grief than other teams

(01:27:29):
in the same position. But I think part of that
is they are the Celtics. There are a storied NFL
as the NBA franchise. They've been in the spot before,
they were in the finals two years ago, right, so,
and again, the style of play they've had so far
in the postseasons can be maddening sometimes and they're legitimate
concerns about coaching staff and style of play that I

(01:27:51):
think are real, And that's I think why this all
bleeds into my opinion of them losing in six. Yeah,
they want to, won't be surprised. I just come down
to the you know, the crunch time, Like we're gonna
be texting each other, Brian, and it's gonna be like
you're gonna be like, I hope, I hope Tatum, Oh man,
I can can Brown make that? I'll be like I

(01:28:13):
got Luca and Kyrie.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Yeah, they're down to a big basket, but they've delivered before.
Think about and I know Tatum has, yeah, hit a
huge shot against.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
You would trust Jalen Brown more. I don't know if
Brown can create in the way Tatum can. But Tatum
like just you know, he thinks he's he's you know,
he's a three point shooter. He thinks he's Steph Curry
too much sometimes in these moments too, you're a something's
backer game on the line, you want Tatum or Brown

(01:28:48):
taking the shot?

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
It would be Tatum. It'd be because like you said,
he he can create more create butter Yeah, yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
And if it's a if it's like an open shot,
I think you would want Brown though.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
Right, Brown is Yeah. I wouldn't have a problem with Brown.
But in terms of it's just like Tatum's got more
in yeah, and he's got to step back that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
Yeah. I also think if you're a situation where you
need someone else to make a shot, the Celtics far
more likely to have. Yeah, I think I am going
to bet Sam Howser to make a three.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
He was two for twenty four and the one one
for what one for fifteen or whatever? He only made one.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Records from from three. Okay, if if you were to
say this where I think the Cells have the huge advantage,
right if it's someone else take a shot. So it
can't be Jalen Brown, it can't be Tatum, it can't
be Luca or Kyrie. The Celtics probably have with the
next seven guys.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Well, I love Drew Holliday, he's such I trust.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
Derek White Truck. Yes, commition Porsing is coming back. I
don't know if I maybe not posing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
But that's not a bad fifth option for no.

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
So who's who's about? It is like who's Who's Who's
next on on Dallas?

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Like who is It's just like it's a combination. It's
just it'd be PJ. Washington. It would be just like
a random collection of dudes that are capable of knocking
a shot down. Like You're not gonna sit here and
be like exim, you know, but he can make shots.
Jalen Hardy Jayden Hardy made a couple of shots in

(01:30:26):
the previous series and they're big. So I like Daniel Gafford,
I like Derek Lively. Derek Lively adds a lot of shots.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
They're making off those right from Derek Jones Junior.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
I can't. I used to make fun of this dude
in Portland.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
He played for the Blazers, Jeff he could not make
a three to save his freaking life. And now on
a different team, he'll get some open looks and he's
knocking him down with confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
He's a completely different player with Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
Man that that game, that game seven, I was the MAVs, jeez,
I mean that was we haven't have a time talking
about that, and it's happened. And that was a man.
I mean, the holy heck. They came out with the
purpose and they made it. Yeah, they they took it
to them, and I mean they even sort of mocked
them on the way doing it. I mean they were
miners and so open sometimes it was embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Crash in Snoop Dogg's direction, you know, it was that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
Was really it was a really really like that. You know,
that's a championship type win, right where you just sort
of go into someone else's building and just rip their
guts out and then.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
But think about this, to those.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
That's the last thing we've seen from either team is
the MAVs crushing Minnesota in their building right to close
out the series. But think about this, you fast forward
and after all the negativity about Boston, Oh, their path
is so easy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Look at all these injured teams. They should be crushing them, YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Vegas and sports books they're like, yeah, Boston to win
the series minus two twenty five, Boston in Game one,
minus six and a half after just a beat down, Yeah,
yeah on the road by Dallas, and Vegas hasn't flinched.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
They're like, yeah, we we think they're by far the
better team.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Yeah I was. I took the Mavericks. You would actually
make more money taking the Mattergs on the money line
and rolling it over than you would basically taking their
you know, their their serious price. But I'll have it
in my back pocket to play with something later. Seven
and a half, six and a half, I felt felt
felt heavy in the first game. It's a big it's
a big number. But ye know, look, the Sultan's will

(01:32:41):
be rested, they'll be at home. Dallas has come off
of you know, much tougher series. Again, the role players
make a big difference right home and away, right, we
we often see the role players play differently in serch situations. Well,
the Boston role players would be home and be rested.
Those things will matter. I think two points where but
seven and six and a half feels heavy with Luca

(01:33:01):
and Kyrie, right, it just feels like a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
It does. It does feel like a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
But that's the thing is, we get the deficiencies with Boston,
but we can't gloss over their strengths. And it happens constantly, Jeff,
where it's like you have to almost tap someone on
the shoulder and be like, you know, this team they
had like the fifth best point differential in NBA history,

(01:33:28):
and all the teams ahead of them won championships. Like
this is in the regular season, a historically great run
that they had in winning sixty four games. They really
don't have flaws getting Porzingis back, they play great defense,
you do have closers, right, You've got a decent bench

(01:33:48):
coming in there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
And I just think that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
I love the matchup of Drew Holliday on Kyrie Irving.
I can't wait to see that play up. Drew Holliday
is such a great defender and Kyrie we know his
credentials on offense. That is gonna be electric.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
That'd be the matchup of like sort of like the
you know of the game of the tournament, right, if
you can finals, you can hold down Kyrie and make
the Mavericks very one dimension. I mean that might be
the plan, right. We've we've often seen anyse situations where
you know, you luk At get forty points and you say, Kyrie,
you get ten, and like will force everyone else to
score a bunch of points, right, I can see that

(01:34:22):
being a strategy for Boston. There were periods in the
early part of the playoffs where Dallas offensively just had
nothing going. Do you see that as being a problem
for them at some point in this or I think
that like that's they're sort of past those days.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
Now in terms of what the offense bogging down.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
Yeah, just like five seven minutes of some really bad offense.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Yeah, you know I hate the Boston's offense, right, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
Well, no, I'm talking about Dallas.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
Those Dallas' offense, yeah, down the stretch.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Well, no, like the Clippers series, there were moments where
it's like they didn't score for seven minutes at a time.
It's been but right they you know, we talked about
Boss having those issues. Do you see Dallas being an
issue for Dallas? And so I feel like they've gone
over that in the postseason, but maybe not now.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
I think they'll have They'll have some lolls.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
I think that it just feels like Dallas has been knighted,
you know, where that series against Minnesota just impressed everybody
so much where it's just like Luca and Kyrie certified closers,
offense is outstanding, and it's like, well that was impressed
of what they did against Minnesota, and Minnesota's defense is fantastic.

(01:35:34):
But styles make fights and in the finals, don't be surprised, right,
I think that Luca, he was amazing in Game five,
scored twenty points in the first quarter. But I would
not be surprised. I've actually got under thirty and a
half points in Game one, Jeff. Really, I'm taking Lucas
under in.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
That I have not taken I've not done any way, Jersy.
I feel like as a plaus I've gone on. There's
been less and less edge I've gotten in some of
these numbers. Might look you know, I'm doing the house
with three pointer. I'm just gonna I'll put one hundred
bucks on it and just call a day. Man. I'm
just I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna do it. Do man.

(01:36:12):
He is due. Yeah, I'm kind of curious. I'm kind
of curious sort of where I get out on this series.
I kind of sort of how I how I yamble
on it. I haven't I haven't gone there yet.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Yeah, all right, Well, Redbirds are on the board, Little
Sunday Night Baseball. Nolan Gorman goes yard. So the Cardinals
are up to nothing. We got a lot left to
do here.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
Hope they lose like the Giants lose, just for this,
just for the disrespect Elier.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
I get it, man, I hear you. But hey, betting
hashtag betting right. I had money on the line there,
all right?

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Coming up next? Is it gone or is it just
not the same as it once was? We'll throw that
your way. It's Jeff Schwartz and Brian no hanging out
with you right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
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The crew crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:37:22):
I was looking for something different, man, Very well done.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Jeff, Do you have any love?

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
This isn't metal, but it's like hard rock. I you know,
I'm just trying to picture you like in a mosh pit.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
You could do some damage there. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
Single was more it was going with.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
Lebron was a big fan of that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
I did see that to it. Yeah, I mean it's
for millennials, you know. And he put Abrica Dabra in there,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
It is hit all the hit, all the strings. Put
all the right strings on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
By the way, Eminem set me up for failure in
the Denver market. You want to hear this real fast?

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
I mean sure, radio please continue.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Rap God is an amazing song by Eminem. He does
an awesome job in that song, but at one point
one of his lyrics, he says, I'm omnipotent. And I
said that one time I was filling in for a
Denver radio stake. Yeah, and I said omnipotent, and all
these texts came flooding in.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
You moron, you're pronouncing it wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
And I didn't see the text until after the show
because I would have doubled down. I'm like, my man
am told me this is how it is, and it's like, no,
it's omnipotent. I'm like, well, thanks em, thanks for setting
me up for failure there, jackass.

Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
What do you think that? Do you think it meant
the same thing?

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Yes, yeah, I just I.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
I forgot that it was pronounced omnipotent. That's something that
this is. You can say it both way.

Speaker 12 (01:38:58):
And Brian, anyone that told you that is a nerd.

Speaker 9 (01:39:00):
Yeah, you can say it both the way. There's like
an English nerd.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
Okay, good?

Speaker 9 (01:39:03):
So I was all right, Yeah, I think I think
there's some haters.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
We should go back in time and talk trash about
the Denver haters.

Speaker 12 (01:39:11):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
I want a text line for this show. I just
want to see I want people to be angrily text
me about my takes. I need that in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
You need it, Okay, So just fill in for Milwaukee
Radio Jeff. I'm not I'm not sure how.

Speaker 12 (01:39:25):
I'm not sure how many people know this, but there
is a feature I believe on the iHeart app where
listeners can like leave a voice memo that I can
go in and listen to.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Oh that'd be cool.

Speaker 12 (01:39:34):
Yeah, So we do that every once in a while
just to like see what everybody's saying. It's really fun. Yeah, no,
I'll I'll tell I'll talk to you after in the
break in.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
We should play some of those you know.

Speaker 9 (01:39:47):
Yeah, you guys are gonna have me hitting the dumb
button a lot, So I don't think we should.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
On this show. I still still I.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
I swear that happens once a show where it's not
quite an MF bomb and you're like, I don't know
if I can do that or not, but you'll get
to like the S word.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
Okay, nothing words. It's not even that bad of a word.
You can't say it. It's it's like, I don't know,
blows my mind. You can say other words. It's you know,
I'm on charge of these words.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
On the no go list right there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Absolutely all right, Okay, we're going to get to tradition
here in a minute. But first it is tradition on
a Sunday to hear from the one and only Moncey
Belanos And I'll tell you what, Moncey, what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
I have game changing news for you at the end
of this update.

Speaker 9 (01:40:44):
Wow, I'm very excited.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Good, I am on edge. That's what I like to hear.

Speaker 9 (01:40:49):
That's what I'm saying. I'm excited. I'm excited. You should
be excited.

Speaker 8 (01:40:52):
Your Cardinals are up there we go, you know what
I'm saying, like because they haven't had the greatest start
to the season, but they are up right now against
the Philly zero bottom of the first inning. Plenty of
game left, the games that have wrapped up. This actually
the last one of the day in baseball. The Dodgers
shout out the Rockies at home for zero. It all
started with the Mookey Betts home run and Freddie Freeman
homered right after. The Mariners outscored the Angels five to

(01:41:15):
one to complete the sweep, while the Reds outscored the
Cups five to two and the Brewers defeated the White Sox,
who have lost eleven in a row, six to three.
The Yankees, though with an exciting comeback win. I'm sure
you're happy about that. They now have the best record
in baseball forty two and nineteen. They beat the Giants
seven to five. Juan Soto, the real MVP, the hero.

(01:41:35):
He had a home run in the first inning, homered
again in the ninth inning to retake the lead. They
won at seven to five. San Francisco starter Blake Snell.
He was removed in the fifth inning due to left
growing tightness.

Speaker 9 (01:41:46):
Earlier in the day.

Speaker 8 (01:41:47):
The Blue Jays top the Pirates five to four, while
the Nationals avoided the sweep and defeated the Guardians five
to two. The Rangers blank the Marlins six to zero.
Ket O Marte homer twice for the Diamondbacks. They had
the comeback win over the Mets, and the Rays came
back to beat the Orioles four to three, while the
Braves topped the A's three to one and the Twins
edged the Astros for three. Austin Sindrick won the NASCAR

(01:42:09):
Cup Series at Gateway out of Illinois. Robert McIntyre won
the RBC Canadian Open at sixteen under par overall for
his first career PGA Tour win. Ben Griffin came in
second place, just one shot back. At the French Open,
World number two Carlos Sakraz moving on to the quarterfinals match,
Coco Goff moving onto the quarterfinals match, and so is world.

Speaker 9 (01:42:29):
Number one Egas Fiatec. She dominated her match, guys.

Speaker 8 (01:42:32):
It lasted forty minutes, straight sets, didn't drop a single game.

Speaker 9 (01:42:36):
There was no deuces, there was nothing. She forty minutes.
When you hear other.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
Games after.

Speaker 9 (01:42:44):
After, that's so good, man. I wish I would have
thought of that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
That was good.

Speaker 9 (01:42:50):
Oh that was good.

Speaker 8 (01:42:51):
Other lasticam I tell you here is that a Michael
Jordan card has sold for the most ever. It is
a upper Deck Ultimate Collection, Michael Jordan's signed a logo
man that has like a little piece of the logo
from a jersey.

Speaker 9 (01:43:05):
It's one of one. It's sold for two point.

Speaker 8 (01:43:09):
Nine to eight million dollars, all time record for any
Michael Jordan car.

Speaker 9 (01:43:18):
I can't imagine spending three million dollar card.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
But there was something it was I think it was
two point nine million. I think it was John Lennon,
one of his guitars from the Beatles.

Speaker 9 (01:43:28):
You know what, that makes a little bit more sense.

Speaker 4 (01:43:30):
Yeah, but when here's the deal. But about that money,
is those people that that's like spending ten dollars for
you fair, But it's like it's so much money that
the people that spend it like it's just a it's
just a blip on the radar. That's how much money
they have, Like, oh, three million dollars whatever what app
to here? You But like no one, you have to
have like one hundred million dollars to I mean four

(01:43:52):
hundred and five millions to make that purchase million it's
probably too little.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
Yeah, yeah, you have like to spend three million.

Speaker 4 (01:43:57):
Dollars on a memorabilia item. You just it's just a
blip on the radar for those For those individuals, that's great,
It's insane, right it is.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
You're right about that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
This is the potential game changing news for you. Monci
belano I saw this story is true story. There is
the world's first cheese it jukebox. It's a true thing.
It plays like fifties and sixties hits, but instead of
a quarter or actual money, you use a cheese and

(01:44:28):
that's what plays the music.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
No, it's on eBay. We can bid on it right now.

Speaker 9 (01:44:32):
I mean, I want this in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
I think you should have it.

Speaker 9 (01:44:37):
I'm gonna look it up right now.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
I don't think you can cheat. I don't know how
it works, Mary. I think it's just like a quarter.

Speaker 9 (01:44:44):
Like that's kind of lame because you're not getting a
cheat like you're putting in a cheesey. Yeah, you get
to hear a song where you get no cheesea back.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Okay, that's the next iteration right where you get the
cheese it back along with the song.

Speaker 9 (01:44:56):
Yeah, that would make more sense.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
It's kind of like a pez dispenser, right exactly, Pas,
It's not like they go away.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
Yeah, have it? Yeah, that makes sense if you find it.

Speaker 8 (01:45:07):
It's only eight hundred and ninety dollars as a starting
bit on eBay, And yes it plays music.

Speaker 9 (01:45:13):
For cheese it crackers, But do you get the cheese
it back?

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
I just can you?

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
If you own the device, you can open it up.

Speaker 9 (01:45:21):
Yeah, yeah, right right, you could.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
Do it that way.

Speaker 12 (01:45:23):
Couldn't you just open a box of cheese its and
open YouTube on your yeah, and.

Speaker 9 (01:45:28):
Eat the cheese Jesus not the same on Beyonce, No listen, no,
you take the cheese it and you put it in
your mouth and then boom you start playing your music. No,
it works. I'm with no, honest one.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
Let's buy it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Yes, it's like, uh, you know, if you have video games,
it's different than having an arcade game.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
You know, like in the corner. It's a whole display.

Speaker 8 (01:45:50):
Right, it's a whole It's only up to three thousand,
three hundred and seventy five dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:45:54):
See that's it. I don't like how you say only
in front of it. We just talked out three million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
We we all, we don't make three million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
Wait, you don't make doing this?

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
I wish I did.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
That's what I get.

Speaker 9 (01:46:10):
That's not fair that you were in the NFL. I
was in college.

Speaker 4 (01:46:14):
So I get three mills for this show the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Right, right, Jeff, If you're making three mili, you always
achies at jukebox for real?

Speaker 9 (01:46:25):
Ten ten of those for each of us.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
I got you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
That's right, real fast to Monsie clipped on Netflix. Yes,
the new series about Clippers.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Excited about that?

Speaker 8 (01:46:37):
I mean it's it's it's a terrible time to think
about because it's hard to not remember that playoff runt
where we were up three to one, and so it's
hard to like not blame Donald Sterling for you know,
yeah still, I mean, I know there were other issues,
but it's hard to.

Speaker 4 (01:46:53):
You know, oh back, okay, ye I thought this year,
oh no, no, no, no.

Speaker 8 (01:46:58):
No, in that that year, you know, it's hard to
like not blame him for being such a toxic factor
in the locker room, even though he obviously was removed
from the building. But I'm gonna watch it. So but
excited is not you know the word, because I'm like
stupid Donald Sterling. But I am gonna look, I am
gonna watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
Yes, yeah, we got Ed O'Neil. He's playing Donald Sterling.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
He's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
He's great. Yeah, he is great.

Speaker 5 (01:47:23):
He's great.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
I like your thought, Jeff, if Clipper fans were still
blaming Donald Sterling.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
And the MAVs.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
Yeah, there are some that are I beg you, there are.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Some that are in a freaking Donald Sterling good stuff, buds.
He always good hanging with you.

Speaker 9 (01:47:40):
Likewise, fellows have a good one, you too, Okay, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
So there's something I wanted to throw out there because, uh,
we were talking about Colehurd's take that USC should no
longer play Notre Dame in college football, and it made
sense because they're playing such a tough schedule. I'd hate
to see the tradition go away. But his point is
there's no more tradition. I would push back on that.

(01:48:04):
I think that tradition is not the same in college football,
and that was one of his points. The Pac twelve
is just it disintegrated overnight. But there's still tradition involved
in college football. We still have some great rivalries. We
still have Michigan, Ohio State, we still have the Iron
Bowl with Alabama and Auburn.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
It's not like all tradition is just gone. You can't
find anything anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
I'd compare it to how you hear conversations about tackling
in football, particularly the NFL, where they say, just because
of a previous era where you could, you know, you
could head slap, you could tackle a guy by his
face mask, you could blindside hit someone. None of this
was outlawed, and it's like it's two hand touch now.

(01:48:50):
It's like, no, it isn't. It's just different than it was.
It's still incredibly physical out there, it's just different I
think that's comparable to tradition in college football. It's not
the same, certainly it is, but it's not like it's
just gone you can't find it anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
Yeah, I am curious about sort of the idea of
the Note Dame USC rivalry because is it a is
it still a So when I think like rivalries, you
mentioned a couple of them, right, A lot of them
happen to be you know, like state state rivalries right
in state border states. There are not many rivalries quite

(01:49:29):
like USC Notre Dame in college sports, right where it's
a RIVALI from the nineteen thirties and they're both schools
that you know, they're they're thousand miles apart. It doesn't
feel as rivalry ish as Michigan Ohio State, as the
Iron Bowl, as Texas Oklahoma. It doesn't feel kind of

(01:49:53):
quite that same way, maybe because again it's not a
conference matchup. It's not a match up of states, you know,
you know, Washington, Oregon right, very you know, very prideful
in their state pride, and so I don't it's very
traditional for college football. But I don't know if fans

(01:50:13):
look at it in the same way that they look
at those other rivalry games.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
For that reason, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
I think in general, if you're you're not a fan
of either team, but you're a fan of college football,
you would still look at it as one of the
better rivalries. You might not have it even in your
top five, but it's a top ten rivalry absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:50:37):
Okay, So but I like your point.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
It's more of like it's typically like a Florida Miami,
Florida State Miami type. You're close, you're in the same state,
you might have played high school football against each other,
that sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:50:48):
Yeah, I am, because you see USC's UCLA's the biggest rival.
But I still think that you see a USC game
like those are that's a bigger rival for USC. The
Notre Dame is right, It.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
Depends, right, if you're talking about in that area, sure,
but if you're talking nationally, no, absolutely not, because Notre
Dame they've been more relevant than UCLA over the last
ten twenty years. Easily.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
I did think about it. It's just so interesting about
that game because you got me thinking about like how
we view that game. Right, it tends to be rivalry weekend, right,
because well, sorry, it doesn't tend to be every year
It depends when, you know, if they're in Los Angeles's
rivalry weekend, right, if not, it's it's in the middle
of the season. I just don't feel that game. Am
not saying I'm not It not mean arguing in favor

(01:51:40):
of getting rid of the game, by the way, right,
I'm just thinking about how I feel about the game. Yeah,
I don't. I don't view it as a rivalry as much.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Wow, that's surprising to me. Yeah, I think it's a
great rivalry. It's just uncommon. I didn't think about it
like that, where it's you know, you're not in the
same state or you're not in border. It's very different
than your your typical rivalries.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
Is the origin of it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:06):
Mostly that like Notre Dame wanted to go west for
like their fans in November. Basically, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
A recruiting thing for sure. It's a big thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
But yeah, they always they play USC on the road
the last game of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:52:19):
Well, they played the California team USC or Stanford on
the road the last game of.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
The season, it's right, yeah, but they'll play when Notre
Dame hosts USC. It'll be the middle of the season, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
Well, both when it hosts US here Stanford it's in October,
and they play the game California in December and November.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
I should say yeah, But I can think of games
off the top of my head, like the Rodney Pete
USC team that was number one against Notre Dame. That
was a huge game at the time. There have been
some monster games. Notre Dame were in the green uniforms
and they take down USC bush Push. They've been legendary games.

(01:52:57):
So look, man, I think that I get coy Hurt's point.
Where I think the better point is it's just not
in USC's best interest going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
When you've got a Gauntlet schedule, it's not in.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
Their best if they have LSU on the schedule too.
If they're playing two Cupcakes and Notre Dame, it's not
the worst thing in the world, right, And you add
in when you add in the LSU game plus Notre
Dame plus a Big ten schedule, that's where the that's
where you get it. That's a lot. It's for a
Power five, you know conference team to have all those games, right,

(01:53:33):
So I get the point from from from that perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
That point makes way more sense to me than Hey,
tradition is just gone. It's it's not the same. We've
lost a good portion of tradition with realignment. But it's
not like you you just can't find tradition anywhere, you
can't find a traditional rivalry. There's nowhere to be found.
All these rivalries are new and different. That's not the case.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
It's just not true.

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
No, that's fair. It's not. It's not the saying. But
they're not they're not gone, right. But again, I go
back to the point about the national sort of thing,
like we've we've sort of taken away a lot of
the national rivalry type things because of TV in favor
of keeping some regional things right. So I I get

(01:54:18):
its point, but I think it would be it would
be where they didn't play anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
I feel like I think, yeah, I'd hate to see
that go.

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
I think LSU, you get rid of the LSU game,
and then that's not a problem, right, you keep Notre
Day in game. Again, I do think though, if you
tell Notre Dame we're not playing until you join the conference,
that would certainly help them join a conference.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
I do wonder which way it's gonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Last thing I'll say to you, real fast, Jeff is
because now that the playoff has expanded to twelve teams,
and it might expand immediately after to fourteen or who
knows what.

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
I wonder which way it's gonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
Where a team like USC can say, on one hand, well,
we've got a little bit of wiggle room. We can
lose a couple of games and still make the playoffs,
so let's continue to schedule. Notre Dame or will teams
look at it and say, man, we got a lot
of tough games. We don't need another tough game and
make our path even more difficult. Like you would think

(01:55:17):
they would tend to, with more wiggle room, keep a
tougher schedule, But that might not necessarily be the truth,
because once you get to that twelve team playoff, you're
playing the best of the best, And so do you
want to make your regular season path challenging when the
playoff path is certainly going to be challenging, they might not.
They might look to lighten their schedule quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:55:38):
Well, the effect of the twelve team playoff, I think
we're sort of seeing already where you know, we have
seen better matchups moving forward in non conference because I
don't think there's a fear anymore of losing, you know,
losing that one or two games because you have an
opportunity to keep that playoff spot. I think we're going
to see more teams schedule tougher early conference game games

(01:56:00):
or no conference teams, because why not. And I think
we're two we all, we all seem to like there's
some fan base fatigue. Yeah, with the non conference Northwest
North Northwest South State game. You know, like right, Alabama
has mentioned this in the past, like they started scheduling
tougher non conference the the the the Texas series, which
is now going to be a conference game obviously, but

(01:56:22):
you know, they've scheduled tougher because of that reason. And
so I think teams are trying to not have three
cupcakes anymore on their schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
I hope that's the case, man, for sure. All Right,
we're gonna close it down in style. Who would you
say is the most interesting NFL team this season? Who's
the least interesting? Jeff and I will compare notes before
we get on out of here. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm
Brian No hang with us right here on Fox Sports Radio.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian no here on Fox Sports Radio. So, Jeff,

(01:56:53):
the Bears featured on Hard Knocks.

Speaker 7 (01:56:57):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
There were three teams that could have been to do this,
and they by far picked the most interesting team. It
was down to the Bears, the Broncos, the Saints. That's
a layup Bears, right, Caleb Williams number one overall draft pick.
Saints are They're kind of boring right now, Bo Nicks,
that's all you get.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
I'd go Bears there, right? You agree with that?

Speaker 4 (01:57:21):
Yeah? I think with the Killer Williams story, I mean,
he's maybe the best quarterback that the team has ever had, so.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
Yes, he very well could be. Yeah. Absolutely, So how
about this?

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
It got me thinking about the most interesting teams the
least interesting teams. If you whittle it down just for
the twenty twenty four season, who are you most interested
in watching?

Speaker 3 (01:57:44):
Who are you least interested in watching?

Speaker 4 (01:57:50):
I mean the Bears up there with Kayleb Williams. I
think you know Houston's ascension in year two, and I'm
really curious to watch Buffalo and sort of their quest
with Josh Allen with a little bit of a remade roster.
I can't wait to watch Justin Herbert with Jim Harbaugh.
I mean it's gonna be It's gonna be fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
Are we gonna see Gable steveson the wrestler?

Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
Probably not this year, probably next year for that, Yeah,
I me think of of who else I'm I'm kind
of looking forward to taking.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
There are a couple other teams. You stopped me with
any of these Bengals Niners.

Speaker 4 (01:58:33):
I'm not The Niners are who they are at this point.
I'm not like I want to watch them because I
just I like watching them. But I'm not like, I
don't think there are a team and that I find
as fascinating anymore. I mean they are who they are
right now?

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
Yeah, how about Cowboys, Lions? My number one team is
the Jets. I'm most interested in seeing what.

Speaker 4 (01:58:57):
We just want to watch a train wreck.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
I don't know that it's gonna be a train wreck
this year.

Speaker 4 (01:59:01):
I really the other By the way, I've thought about
the other teams right like, who I just do just
the Giants are one of them. They're gonna going to
be any good. I feel like a decent team that
I just Tampa Bay just do anything for you. I
mean they're gonna be nine and eight or eight and nine.
That's what they're gonna be, right.

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
The Panthers bore me, man, I do, I do.

Speaker 4 (01:59:24):
I'm curious. There's a lot of hope with with kan
Ellis and Bryce, and I'm sort of curious about how
that turns out. I might take a little peak early
in the season, take a peak, you know, week five,
take a peak week eight, kind of just see how
they're doing. You know this, uh the o they're sort
of doing. They have a tough schedule. They play I
believe that the AFC West and the Bengals too. And

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on top of that, that's a crossover game. It's a
tough schedule for them.

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
That's rough. The Patriots until Drake May starts playing games.

Speaker 4 (01:59:56):
Oh no, even with Drake May, I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Even with it might be but at least they have
this unknown element of what's he gonna be type thing.
But until then, yeah, that's pretty rough. Hey man, good
hanging with you, Jeff. As always, I'll look forward to
Boston beating your maps in game one.