Arnie Spanier and Jason Martin talk shop on how long it is taking to get to the NBA Finals. Arnie and Jason also discuss the heat that Kyrie Irving is taking. Plus the guys discuss Inside The NBA, Arnie's picks, and more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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you doing tonight, Jason Martin.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Doing pretty well? Doing pretty well? Feel like we talked
to day ago, because we actually did.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Everybody's on vacation. You know, I'm a softie. I gave
Torres a couple of saturdays off. I gave Plank tonight off.
So you and me have to hold down the fort
for a while. You know what I mean, what do
you vacation? When you go on vacated because you're you're
within driving distance of a lot of places.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, I mean, we'll drive to uh to the beach
in Florida. Generally we'll go to like thirty eight or
something like that. That's kind of where people from here
end up somewhere down there White Sands, and it's great
to go to destin Florida. We went last year, and
of course now we have the newborn, so we're probably
not gonna do anything this year. But yeah, it's generally
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just something like the beach, although I think, you know,
as our children get older, who want to start traveling
a little bit more, maybe getting overseas and things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Look, you, we definitely want to do that. How far
is it my car to the beach from where you're.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
At It's eight hours something.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh geez, I can't do that. That's too far for me.
I can't be driving. I wanted to go down to
the Carolinas. It's so hard to fly from any place
outside of Vermont. You know, you have to take like
two or three flights. It takes all day to get
out of here and and all day to get back
in here.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So I'm just I'm going down the Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I think it might be a little too oiity toity
for me that you know, that doesn't sound like my
cup of tea, But it's my it's my wife's birthday,
So I'm just gonna I'm just going with the flow,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, you know you don't have to live in Vermont.
There would be. There are other places you could live.
I mean maybe you dig the ice cream. Yeah, I
used to. I used to be a really really big
fish music fan. And you know, obviously they're from Burlington
and in that area. But I mean, you know, Bernie
Sanders is there, you can leave.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You'd be surprised, you'd be surprised where they put you
when you do witness relocation. I'm telling you right now, right,
we got a lot to get to coming up in
about fifteen minutes from now. Mark Medda is gonna stop by.
Got a lot of NBA to get to. Todd Furman
an hour number two. Of course, the Seger also stops
by an hour number two. We'll give our picks coming
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up in the Power hour of the show. Of course.
Always we love to use Twitter or x whatever you
want to call it. You can get a hold of
us at j Mart Radio. I'm of course at Stinking
Genius One. Get a lot of calls or a lot
of tweets in this slot, so we'll try to get
to some of them, Jason a little bit later on.
So try to keep up with everybody because they usually
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send us a lot of tweets when a lot's going
on a few things are going on.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
When we talked last night, and the first thing we
mentioned was about the NBA and the big you know
time between the end of the Eastern and Western Conference
Finals and the start of the NBA Finals. One team
had the way ten days, one team had the wait
seven days. We're talking about hasn't lost its loster? Has
it lost its.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Steam a little bit?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And yesterday I said, yeah, lost in steam, has lost
its loster. But I'm gonna deal with it now twenty
four hours later. Maybe it's because the first game usually
starts on a Sunday, or we usually get a you know,
an NBA Finals game, but a Sunday. We never go
through a Sunday without a game unless the Finals is done.
I'm really I was lost today. I'm like, gosh, man,
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it feels like forever now and it was just twenty
four hours Jason. But when you miss a Sunday in
the rotation, it feels like you've missed a month of
action or something like that. I feel like I haven't
seen a basketball game in a month something.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It really is bad.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Maybe I'm overreacting because we were just on the air
unless did twenty four twenty four hours ago, but it
just feels now longer because here we are on Sunday night.
We got nothing. We had no no games, no Eastern
Western NBA Finals, we had nothing out there.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Jason, Yeah, I mean I can understand where you're coming from,
because I mean the NBA Finals usually start on a
Thursday or a Sunday, right, and just considering the lack
of a plus level kind of content for the vast
majority of sports fans, like you didn't have a huge
golf tournament, you didn't have like Marquete baseball matchups this
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early in the season. Nothing really stands out like that.
And then of course you've got the College World Series,
and you've got what's happened with Super Regionals and everything
else in college baseball, and you've got the NHL Playoffs.
But generally it almost feels like a missed opportunity for
the NBA because you could have owned today.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh big time.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You completely could have owned it. You could have owned
the lead up to it, you could have put it
in primetime and there'd been nothing really to challenge it.
And instead we're waiting until Thursday, And it does feel
like this is a night you should have been playing
if you're the NBA, because the stage belonged to you.
We're still going to be there on Thursday, but it
is a long time off, and to miss a day
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like this where the schedule felt awfully light outside of
what you were doing, that that just seems like that
was a missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You know, I think I brought this up to you yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
There was a time where we said, if one of
the finals ended in a four game sweep, we're going
to start the finals on this day. If it goes
five or six or seven games, we're going to start
the finals on that day. Am I mis remembering that, Jason?
Or is that the way we used to do it?
And that way we always ensured that there wasn't such
a big laps. So the seger told us, just you know,
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this is the second or third time something like this
this happens.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So yeah, I remember, I remember ranting about this on
an annual basis that it feels like forever between the
end of the conference finals and the start of the
Championship round, the actual NBA finals, because they set that
date in advance, and it doesn't matter how things are
playing out. Now what you're saying may have been true,
but at least in recent years, this is kind of
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where they've gone. So you've got these nine day, ten day,
eleven day layoffs and because of the rhythm that you
get in and I imagine for the teams especially, and
I suggested to you last night, I felt like this
might really hurt Dallas because they've just been firing on
all cylinders and for them to then have to step away,
even if it does give them a chance to recharge
their batteries, I feel like that benefits the Celtics a
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lot more than it does the Mavericks because of the
style of play. I feel like Boston can get back
up to speed and Dallas. Dallas has been going one
hundred and fifty miles an hour and now they're in
pit lane, and so you hope that they're able to
get back out and not lose any positions on the
track because they come out rusty. This is not a
team in Boston that you can afford to do that against,
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because they can really just coast that they can their
their level of play, their baseline is good enough to
hold you off because of their defense.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Now remember now, the first two games in Boston anyway,
all they're looking is for this split, not like you're
gonna It's not like you're just going to give up
on game one anyway, but you know you'll get up
the speed after the first what six minutes or maybe
the first quarter, and then you know you'll get your
legs on the you or something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
My thing is this I again.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I maybe it's because of the long time time off
or something. Everybody's talking about how excited they are about
this matchup, and they're talking about Luca and Kyrie, talking
about Tatum and Jalen Brown.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Maybe it has to start for me to get into it.
I'm just not I'm ten years ago. This would have
been phenomenal twenty years ago anything with the Celtics into it.
It wouldn't make a difference who they were playing. I'm watching,
you know what I mean. I'm watching an hour before
I end, and we're rooting against the Celtics were rooting
against Boston.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It doesn't feel like it has that same feeling in
twenty twenty four, but everybody seems to be excited about it.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Maybe I'm on the in the minority on this one, Jason.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I mean, I think the matchup is pretty juicy. I
will say a lot of it. For me, the biggest
storyline is this is supposed to be Boston's time because
they've knocked on the door before. Here they are, they've
been in this situation. Now's the time where you take
that final step and you win. But is someone they
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are going to spoil the party and stop them from
getting there? And if it happens, are they ever gonna
have another chance in Boston to do this again? Are
they ever going to have a better look at it
than they do right now? With teams in the East
getting a little bit better and everybody in the West
continuing to reload. If Dallas jumps that, like, Dallas is
not supposed to be here yet. This is not this.
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This doesn't make sense really, everything that was not who
people had going into the postseason. This is supposed to
be Boston's time if you were just writing it from
like a logical, rational point of view. But sports isn't
logical irrational, and so you bring a Luca who's red
hot at the right time, just making incredible shots, difficult
shots impossible to guard, and then you've got Kyrie playing
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at this kind of level, maybe Boston's not going to
have a time. So I do think that makes it interesting.
And the Celtics are just polarizing in general. It's like
you either like them or you don't. I don't think
most people are milk toast about them. However, there is
still that narrative out there, and Torres and I have
talked about this repeatedly. They do kind of bore me.
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The Celtics kind of bore me.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Like they just Playedio Spurs.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, kind of kind of. I don't know what it is,
but they're just times when I'm not as enthused watching
them as I am.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
A bunch of both teams in that shoots a lot
of three pointers. That's kind of surprising because that's what
people want nowadays, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Not what I want. No, I still think it's way
too much. Yeah, they shoot more and and they have
a but then they're the best three point shooting team
in the league. And so I mean, I understand why
you would shoot it, because the math would tell you
three is bigger than two. I mean, I was not
good in maths. While I'm sitting here talking to you tonight,
but I do understand three is a bigger number than two,
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but I don't know, like exactly how to quantify it.
They don't do anything wrong. There's just not anything particularly
flashy about them in the way that some of these
other teams are. So I do think they don't have
maybe they have a little bit of Patriots in them,
because a lot of times the Patriots weren't flashy either.
You know how you think about Boston teams, they're just
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kind of like a almost like a dull run. It's
almost like a dullness. It's not a sharp edged knife.
It's kind of a dull edged knife with the Celtics,
like a butter knife.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
But by the way, if you want to get in,
like I said, Twitter, we'll use that later on J
Martin Radio. I'm its thinking genius one. You know, all
the storylines that we would have had about ten or
twenty years ago, I don't feel like we have this
time around. Like what we talked about is Ky yesterday
a little bit is he's still hated like he was.
(11:04):
I don't know whether the three, four, five year ago,
how about one year ago, one year ago? You're right
about that. My answer is no, he's he's not nearly
as hated as he was. And you say one year,
I'll go back to three. I think it was pretty
bad about two three years ago, that year in Brooklyn
or whatever it was. But he doesn't feel like you
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still have that same hatred for Kyrie out there like
he did that those years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean I think that.
The reasons I say one year is because when he
got moved to when he went to Dallas, a lot
of people, maybe even me included, we're just kind of like,
can't wait to watch this blow up because this is
what Kyrie does. He kills teams. Why would you want
that guy? I think that's completely shifted. I love watching
him play because he's just doing the thing that we know.
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He's one of the best to ever do, one of
the most talented, just purely talented basketball players you've ever
seen anybody's ever and he's right now completely bought in.
He is playing that leadership role and at the same
time he understands it's Luka Doncicic's team and he's not
trying to take it away from him. He's just doing
everything he can to help Luca win a championship and
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by the same time win one himself. So I was
thinking about it again today, Arnie. I cannot recall in
team sports a comeback like this where you have seen
somebody completely turn around how he's perceived. Right, this redemption
arc is one of the best that I have ever seen,
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and I am here for it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Right And that's why I wanted to bring up hatred,
because we don't hate Kyrie as much as we did.
As you say last year, I'm saying two, three, four
years ago, which brings me to my next thing is
you know back in the eighties, which is I know
a million years ago, we used to hate the Boston Celtics.
I mean remember when they used to play the Lakers
that the crowd would be chanting a black Gala.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
The rivaly was so much out there.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We still hate the Dallas Cowboys from the seventies, in
the eighties and the nineties all the way till now,
but we don't hate the Celtics like we did back then.
Why why why do we still hate the Cowboys but
we don't hate the Celtics like that anymore?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Are or do we hate the Celtics like?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I don't think that's no, I don't think it's even comparable. No,
the way you're saying, I certainly don't think that Boston,
the Celtics franchise now is looked at the way the
Cowboys are. I think that maybe the biggest reason for
that is the Jerry Jones effect a little bit different
from Brad Stevens. But you also just again, what did
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I say, they're kind of like a butter knife. Nobody's
ever gonna say that about Dallas. Dallas is never boring,
but you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Never thought you'd say that about the Celtics, right, I
mean that's the Celtics. The Lakers teams like they're iconic
teams like that.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Jason, I mean I think that the Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett,
Ray Allen. I think they were hated, yes, because larn
Pierce was Paul Pierce was very much to take it
or leave it kind of player, and Guardnet could could
really wear out your wear out your emotions at some
point where you just had enough. Uh, These guys like
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there's not really any reason to dislike Jason Tatum, There's
not any reason to dislike Jaylen Brown. There's not any reason.
Like what they do on the floor, they're history onics
anything like that, very muted. They're pretty just normal basketball
players that are really good. There's not and maybe that's
part of it, Like they don't have the tabloid factor
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going outside of Jason Tatum being a little bit too
much Kobe worship earlier and Jaylen Brown saying some some
stuff off the court that I completely disagreed with and
a lot of the country disagreed with, but it was certainly,
you know, his prerogative to to put that out there.
But generally, like, there's not those personalities don't exist on
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this team. I mean even back like remember like Brian Scalabrini,
these guys, like they were just polarizing figures. There were
just people on the team that you either liked or
just couldn't stand to look at. And this Boston team
doesn't really have that, Like who's the most, who's the
most Who's the guy on the team that is the
easiest to dislike if you're not a Boston fan.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It used to be Mark Smart, but it used to
be Mark and Smart, but he's not on the team anymore.
So I could see people hating him before. But I
didn't say Boston team. I said Celtics. I was gonna
ask you, is the city of Boston still hated because
you know, it was that whole East coast West coast
thing with LA and Boston and the Red Sox, the Patriots,
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the Bruins, you know, the Celtics. People hated everything about Boston,
you know.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, And I think the change is just they haven't
won anything in a while. It's hard to hate a
city when they don't have a bunch of champions, like
the Ruins have been good, but hockey is hockey, right,
The Celtics have knocked on the door and gotten beat
and so you've been able to jeer out them.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Are you forgetting about the Patriots long there?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
As soon as Brady left the Patriots. The Patriots are
just a punching bag right right right, And so we'll
see what's gonna happen under Mayo's regime and starting things
over there. And then the Red Sox haven't been relevant
in a couple of years either. So you look at
all of that, there's not really any reason to hate
on Boston because they do it to themselves, like there's
not you have to be good to make me, I
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think right now, they're not good enough. Their franchises are
not good enough across the board to bring that level
of vitriol out of people.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You know, Philly has a one all heck of a lot,
but we hate the Philly fans.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know, we'll get it.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
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Speaker 6 (18:11):
How you doing Mark, I'm doing well. Hey, just trying
to follow your guys.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
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Speaker 3 (18:17):
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Speaker 2 (18:18):
Tell you, first of all, covering the NBA, how much
of this is a nuisance to you with the long
like ten days rest and stuff. I mean, we know
that we feel like it's lost momentum as a fan
and as a viewer, But what about a guy that
actually covers the NBA.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
What do you do with such a long layoff?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Well, I always just roll with the punches. Whether there's
too many games at once or too much going on,
you get through that, and then when there's a lull
in the action, you just try to chip away at
long term stuff. So you know, you mentioned the co
hosting yesterday, that's one of the examples of just trying
trying to fill the time and still be a value.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Mark matchups in seven game series it usually come down
to that. You look at Denver, they didn't match up
well with Minnesota at all and ended up not making it.
I think Denver probably would have beaten Dallas, but they
never had that opportunity. So looking at the matchup with
the Mavericks and the Celtics, who do you feel like
is in a better, more advantageous position.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Yeah, it's really fascinating because I personally think that Dallas
is in a better position because they've been playing better basketball.
And then the other thing is there's an unknown on
when or if Chris Porzingis is going to come back
in the series. But I did talk to a few
assistant coaches over the weekend and both of them favor
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the Boston Celtics because they feel like even with or
without Porzingis, they have such great offensive chemistry right now
with Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, they have a deep supporting
cast of Drew Holliday and Derek White, and their defense
is exceptional that they feel like a it can overcome
any limitations up Worzingis will have, or if he's not
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even in the lineup. And then secondly, they both downplayed
the concern that some have about, hey, Boston hasn't played
its best basketball, hasn't been challenged enough. They feel like,
you know, once start at the NBA Finals and they
play against the caliber opponent of Dallas, that they'll be
forced to elevate their game. But look, you can't discount
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the fact that Luka Doctrich and Kyrie Irving have been
playing their best basketball ever in their career. Their chemistry
is really great and they have a great supporting cast.
So what I'm getting at here, guys is you can
really flip a coin for either team. But regardless, I
think it's going to go full seven games.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Can you imagine if it was Dallas We're talking about
this earlier, if it was Dallas and Boston forty years ago,
then twenty years ago, compared to now twelve years ago.
I mean, can you imagine back in the like the
Larry Bird era, we have so much hatred for the Celtics,
we'd be like foaming at.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
The mouth for this type of matchup.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I don't know, it just feels like we just don't
hate this Celtics anymore. They don't have that hatred like
they did back in the eighties.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
You know what I mean, Mark, Yeah, I mean back
in the eighties it was always Lakers Celtics. So now
it's been, you know, no repeat champions ever since the
Golden State Warriors dynasty with Kevin Durant. I think the
other thing is that while I think a lot of
the showtime Lakers and people within the Laker organization are
feeling a lot of angst that if the Celtics win
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this upcoming finals that propels them to having the most
titles out of any NBA team over them. But really
I think it's just the showtime guys, Like I think
the current Lakers. Yes, they wish they could still be
in the hount, they still wish they could be winning
a championship, But I don't think the fact that the
Celics are in the finals, or the fact that they
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could exceed them in the organization ring count total really
resonates among the current players.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Mark, do you feel like at all kind of watching this?
It didn't I didn't see Dallas. I didn't see this
being the finals before it started. Do you think it's
fair to look at it and just say, man, it
feels like they jumped the line. They found their way
into the finals. And you look at Luka Doncic right
now and you're hearing people say he's the best player
in the world if they win the championship. Do you
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think that's fair? Like, maybe there's two questions here, but
that Luca question sticks out big because I don't know
if I can get there, but right now he's certainly
the hottest player if nothing else.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, An, I'll pack at one by one. As far
as whether the MAVs jumped the line, Yes, they jumped
the line. That's because they dramatically change their team with
the trade deadline. Yes, it starts as Luca and Kyrie,
but it also helps when they have a supporting cast
and PJ. Washington and Daniel gafferd have been game changers
for different reasons. PJ two way player on the wing,
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Gafford Real give great defensive compliment to Derek Lively the second.
But I think to your broader point, even going to
the playoffs, I thought it could go either way with
Dallas and the Clippers. To his clear Kawhi Leonard wasn't
going to be one hundred percent. I favored Dallas, but
I still favored Oklahoma City in that second round matchup.
But once Dallas beat Oklahoma City, I thought all bets
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are off. They could beat Minnesota and they've simply just
risen their game to another level. As to your second
question with Luka Doncic, yes, he is the best player
in the world right now. I thought that Nikole Jokish
was deserving of that MPP award. We have to keep
in mind that's a regular season award. In this playoffs,
Luka Doncic has been playing his absolute best, and I
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think you can make an argument right now that Kyrie
Irving has been second. They've been that great, both individually
as well as a duo.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You know, Mark, you know, people say, oh, take away
in the Lakers championship, that was a bubble. That doesn't
get that's a bubble it come out. Yes, Well, can
we say the same thing about the Celtics? No, Butler, no, Donovan, Mitchell, Nohlliburton.
Can we say we look how easy it was for.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Them or what? No?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
No, no, no. I mean look, part of the name
of the game is that sports and sports is that
injuries happen and you have to deal with the hand
that you're Dell. I'm not going to fault or penalize
or put an asterisk to a Celtics title just saying
that they had a relatively better path to the finals
than Dallas did because their opponents weren't fully one hundred percent.
(24:18):
What I think does bring some valid concerns, though, is
because they didn't play teams at full strength, Boston hasn't
been fully challenged as much as Dallas, and will that
ultimately affect their play. I have question marks about it.
I know several other people do now. In fairness to
those two assistants that I mentioned, they downplayed that only
(24:40):
because they feel like, for better and for worse, the
Celtics play their game to their opponent, and because Dallas
is a better opponent, they'll elevate their game. But no,
to your original point, You can't penalize teams for facing
the teams in front of them. That's what you're supposed
to do.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So one more and well, you mentioned the team that's
not playing in right now. But I'm just going to
throw two words to you and let you talk because
I think there's a number of different places you can
go here. Bronnie James, what are your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
My thoughts are that he's going to be drafted by
the Lakers at number fifty five, But there's a few
things here. The Lakers aren't going to be trading up
in the draft just to get them higher in the
second round. I don't think and you guys might not
believe me here, but I don't think the Lakers are
making this move to play Kate Lebron James. Yes, it helps,
(25:33):
but it's a topping on a Sunday. It's not the
Sunday itself, because regardless of whether they pick Brownie or not,
I don't see Lebron James going anywhere. He's technically going
to be a free agent by opting out of his
current player option, but that's just to negotiate a longer
deal with the Lakers, and that's going to happen, So
Bronnie James, he's not a game changer. Some talent evaluators
(25:57):
think that he's improved his defense, he's improved his shooting,
but he's not elite in any of those categories or
really anything else. He's just a solid player. But again,
the Lakers had the fifty foot pick. There's not as
much risk with that because he's probably not going to
have a bigger role. Now, that's not going to say
there's not going to be issues. You're playing with your father.
(26:17):
That could could create a cool moment, but it could
also create some awkward locker room dynamics. But that's how
I see things play out with Brawny.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Mark Medeen everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Of course, five sports radios NBA inside are also part
time talk show hosts now so we can Mark enjoy it.
My friend will certainly always love having you on. We'll
do it again as we get closer to those finals
in about a month or two from now.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Yeah, I appreciate you guys, if you don't mind me
giving a quick chatty late TJ. Seimer's unfortunately we lost
the former Alla Times calumnist. Great guy. Some people didn't
like him because of how abrasive.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
He was.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Some people loved him because he wasn't afraid to ask
the tough questions. But hope he and his family can
get through tough time.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Absolutely amen to that. Thank you, Mark, I certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I take care Mark Medina everybody. Of course, as a
matter of fact, let's see what's trending. We go to
our buddy, Steve the Sager, and Steve, that's exactly what
I was about to tell you.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Steve TJ.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Seimers, Yeah, passed away at the age of seventy three.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I put it back out on my Twitter. I don't
know if you heard that.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I was going to tell you earlier, but I'm like,
I'll just mention to you when you're doing the updates.
That was quite a surprise. I guess he was battling
a brain tumor. I guess, but I remember back in
the days when I was doing LA Radio, he was
right there, front and center of things, and.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh he was polarizing.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
His articles was must read, Steve must read every time.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
He joined the La Times nineteen ninety. It was his
longtime editor Bill Dwyer that made the announcement tonight. If
you can ever see I remember TJ. Simers in a
very positive light for the night he had when for
a charity he hosted an evening with John Wooden and
Vince Gully. Can you imagine an hour, hour and a
half of a round table with just those guys on
(28:10):
the stage. There is video of it out there. The
La Times had fired Simers about a decade ago, and
he sued the paper for age discrimination and.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Won a boatload of money.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And then Jay Simers I think was on the initial
around the horn Brough.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yes, yes, years well, yeah, they got rid of him
when he said he was embarrassed to be on the show, that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He might not be wrong.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
That is so appropriate that he would say something. By
the way, the guys that are not on our show
this weekend we mentioned Aaron Torres was off last night.
Mister yukon and busy for Oklahoma softball these days, so
Chris Blank not on tonight. Their baseball teams are playing
each other right now. Are Connecticut and Oklahoma are tied
(28:55):
in the NCAA Region three to three in the eighth inning.
If ok Ploma loses at home tonight, they are out
just for the.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Rector Pike will be really crabby.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Oklahoma softball is number two in the country defending champs.
They get Florida tomorrow. As Florida eliminated Alabama six to
four today and then Stanford eliminated UCLA three to one.
Stanford versus number one Texas tomorrow night. By the way,
as far as NCAA baseball, number one Tennessee one again
too advanced. It was hosting a regional this weekend. Oregon
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State was hosting a regional this weekend, but due to rain,
their game against UC Irvine today was suspended in the
fourth inning. It will resume Monday at noon Pacific with
Oregon State. By the way, we did have a PAC
twelve matchup tonight with that Stanford beating UCLA, I assume
that's the last PAC twelve matchup. It's not a PAC
twelve sanctioned game. It wasn't the conference tournament that was
(29:47):
the national but interesting that we had that and they
won't be a conference opponents. Course, Stanford and call Or
going to acc UCLA, usc are going to Big ten
in the WNBA. Connecticut's eight and oh after winning easily
at Atlanta and at New York tonight, the Liberty seven
and two beat a two to nine Indiana Fever team
one four to sixty eight rookie Caitlin Clark one of
(30:11):
ten shooting from the floor. The NBA Finals don't start
until Thursday. Celtics host the MAVs then and next Sunday
night is Game two at Boston. The Stanley Cup Finals
starts Saturday, with Game two on Monday, the tenth. We
know the matchup now. Florida won the Eastern Conference last night.
Edmonton took the West Final in Game six tonight, eliminating
(30:32):
top seed Dallas two to one, even though the Oilers
were out shot thirty five to ten ten shots and
still winning a playoffs ties a.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Record that's insane.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
It is insane, man, much less a clinching game with
only ten shots at home and.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Mike he could play faced shot.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Maybe they maybe they wouldn't have won two to one.
Robert McIntyre won the Canadian Opened by one stroke with
his dad as his caddy in an emergency this weekend.
What a story.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
What do you know not to bring is what happened
to the golfer? That is, caddy got hurt. So some
guy from the from the.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Gowris that was also, yes.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, it's not just was like big husky guy.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I did see the article, just the photo of the
guy they cut to filling. It's kind of like one
of those stories where they don't have a backup goalie, right,
And so that has happened where somebody who's not on
an NHL roster gets to actually get in a NHL game.
Austin Sindrick won the NASCAR Race. Simone Biles took the
US Gymnastics title. Baseball at Philadelphia Saint Louis in ten innings,
(31:35):
beat the Phils five to four. Next weekend, the Phillies
are in London against the Mets. The Mets did you
know a typical Mets thing that they've been doing for
a few weeks now, giving up a homer in the
nines to lose five to four to Arizona. Kansas City
with three runs bottom of the ninth beat the Padres
four to three, and the Yankees had four runs top
of the ninth to win at San Francisco again seven
(31:56):
to five. Yankees have won five straight. Coming up Saturday
night on Fox TV, the Yankees host the Dodgers. Dodgers
shut out Colorado four Nathan back to you.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
All right, thanks, so Steve appreciate that live at the
tyrack dot com studios. Of course, Jason Martin did for
Chris Plan, Camartie Spanier, t J.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Simmons.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I just wanted to say that finishing that up. Look,
he really did rub people the wrong way. But his articles,
as I mentioned, must read. I was in LA when
he was like a big figure here. It was just,
you know, he was just very polarizing, and I thought
he was a good guy. I don't think I've ever
(32:34):
had any problems with him or he mixes with him,
but certainly some people did. But he I'm surprised you
ever heard of him, Jason, because you were not an
LA guy, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
No. But again, I mean I certainly remember around the
Horn because.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I was, oh, that's right, PTI honk.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But past that, when you're in sports media long enough,
you get to know some of this stuff, and you
talk to people and you find out things about history.
So there's his names that you hear, J. Marriotti and
oh yeah, and the guys that were on TV of course,
but also some of the other guys and Symer's because
he had this aura about him and there was such
(33:09):
a love it or hate it kind of thing. I
heard a lot about him as a matter of fact,
and you know, I remember that when Steve mentioned I
remember the lawsuit. I remember him being fired in the
age discrimination lawsuit and then reading like comments from people
he's getting what he deserves, what a scumbag, like all
sorts of stuff like, I mean, people came for his neck, right,
(33:30):
But I think he's kind of a bit of a
dying breed. Love him or hate him, like, you just
don't get that in media anymore, especially in print media.
Everybody has these relationships with various people, and as such
you can tell reading the article, you know who they're
in favor of who they're not, and also maybe who
they talk to and who they don't and things like that.
(33:52):
Maybe you get more information now, but some of that
personality on the page, it just it just doesn't exist
the same way. That's some great writers now, but it's
just a different it's a different climate.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And I think he used to write about the media also,
did he not. I think he was probably did, yeah, well,
because he used to write an article and it would
be like little bits and pieces, you know, just like
different paragraphs and it could be about anything, it didn't
have to be all one topic. And he would just
sometimes take shots of people in the media also, So
that's why I always read, I'm like, oh, wait for
(34:22):
him to take a shot at me, you know what
I mean, Jason, It's got to be coming soon.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So maybe during the break, I'm gonna look up Awful t. J.
Simer's college because I'm sure some people have some and
just see like some of the stuff that he was
writing really back in his heyday when he was firing
on all cylinders.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
All right, when we come back, though, you know, we
talk so much about the game and the NBA and
stuff like that. What about the pregame? What's gonna happen
with the TNT, what's gonna happen to Ernie and Shack?
It's so hard for me and Kenny really all right, well,
I can't wait to hear that. We'll get to that
coming up next right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
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Speaker 2 (35:08):
All right, could you think everyone Jason Martin is for
Chris Planko Arnie Spaniel live at the Tirack dot Com
studios on this Sunday night. We talk so much about
the NBA and the games, Jason, But what about the
pregame show, the one that everybody loves. What's gonna happen
to Ernie and Charles and Kenny and Shack? Are they
(35:28):
all gonna be together again? Are they gonna go their
separate ways? Is the show just gonna be over and
they're not gonna do anything? Or are they gonna go
to Fox ESPN? Are you gonna miss the show? Or
are we gonna get over it? Are you you seem
you had seem to be bothered by this?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
This is I care more about this? Do the finals.
I can't imagine the NBA without TNT, right, I can't
imagine it without Turner. I can't imagine it without the
greatest pregame and postgame show that's actually better than the
games ninety five percent of the time. I don't DVR
the NBA on Thursday nights, but I've had a standing
DVR of Inside the NBA on both T and T
(36:08):
and on NBA TV for over probably for over a decade.
And the reason why I do it on both is
because I might miss part games long on TNT and
I want to be able to watch the entire inside
d NBA, and so that's been the idea that that
show might not exist is incredible, especially when you watch
(36:29):
the ESPN broadcast, and with all due respect to everybody involved,
it's just not even close. It's not on the same level.
They rush through it, they have their takes. Steven A
is an acquired taste that I still haven't acquired, and
it just it's not the same, and you can The
thing is they can go do this for somebody else,
(36:52):
and maybe they would. You've heard Barkley say, you know,
I'm a free agent if we leave, and Barkley is
sort of still Barkley's the one indispensable piece, even though
I'm a big time Kenny Smith fan and have been forever,
and I I've grown to like shack More. I didn't
like him when he first came on. I didn't think
that he was as necessary as some people did, but
(37:13):
I've enjoyed how he's grown with the show and become
one with it. I the problem is, if you don't
get Ernie, it's still not the same because Ernie is
the perfect guy that just kind of stands in the middle,
who can cut up when necessary but bring it back
when necessary. It's a unique talent that almost nobody has.
Just completely different, and he's not gonna leave because his
(37:35):
entire family was built at turns everything he's ever known
exists there.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
And they're gonna have to split up.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I think if they want to continue, they're gonna have
to split up at least, I think.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, And I just I don't want to see that
without Ernie Johnson either. It's just not the same. And
Ernie will be doing baseball with TBS and he'll be
associated with everything that they're doing as he always has been.
But man, I'm a I'm as big an Ernie Johnson
junior fan as you will find, and just everything about
the guy, it's it's hard to knock him on anything
(38:05):
about his life and how he goes about it and
how he conducts himself, and how he loves people, and
how he has put these guys in a position over
and over again to just shine. And there's just not
going to be a replacement for him. So I don't
even want to talk about the idea that Warner would
let them go. But Zaslov and the guys associated over there,
(38:28):
they just seem to be hemorrhaging money left and right,
making all sorts of decisions, almost like they want to
bankrupt the thing so that they can sell it off.
And I will say this, they don't want to pay
as much for the NBA because and Disager can tell
us this when he comes on Next Hour, right, and
he has told us this many times in the past.
(38:48):
The ratings aren't that great, like they're not necessarily yet. Well, no,
I'm talking about the games, the NBA itself, the games
on Thursday nights. Those ratings are not like Gangbusters. It
used to be. What do you know TNT for except
the NBA. Well I knew it for WCW and now
I know it for ADW. But they've had a few
original series and they've had some other things. They'll be
(39:11):
able to find other content. The NBA is not the
indispensable content that maybe it once was. And if somebody
wants to go overpay for it, then I can see
a company that's not doing particularly well, where Max has
sort of failed as a streaming service, Like there's just
there's a lot of different factors that go into this particular.
(39:31):
The ardship point is just they can't look that we
cannot afford as a sports viewing public not to have
that group of guys doing what they do.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Can you still have the show on TNT, even though
TNT might not.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Have the NBA because like, no, you can't.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Well, ESPNA is like a pregame show, but they're not
carrying the NFL games at the one o'clock but they're
doing a pregame show.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, but they're not a sports network though, Like I mean,
ESPN's a sports network and TNT is not. The thing
that I'm fascinated by is so much of NBA TV's
content and as Turner guys, it's all these same guys
that work for Turner. If they have their B team
guys that do the alt cast, they'll have Ernie, they'll
have Matt Winer, they'll have some of the guys that
have been associated with Turner for a long time because
(40:12):
of their partnership with the NBA. I don't what does
NBA TV become if all of that happens, Like there's
just a lot of things that need to be figured out.
But I'm just hoping that somehow we don't lose that show.
I cannot I cannot abide this at all.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
All right, it was like losing the Sopranos our one
in the Bucks. Wow, that just flew on by Todd
Ferban not gonna join us. I gave him the day off.
So we're gonna plenty of time for your tweets. We're
gonna come back, get into the NBA. What are the
Lakers going to get a coach? If they do get
JJ Reddick, does that mean they get lebron back? Does
(40:50):
that mean they get Bronny? All that coming up next year?
On Fox Sports Radio. Oh that is us. Good evening everybody.
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You know that, don't you. So do you have like
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Oh yes, yes, I do know the little things you
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I just learned that the last couple of months. But no,
I I don't get into the whole duck thing. I
I haven't pushed it that far yet so now, yeah,
not yet. But I do like my jeep, I'm gonna
get some big old tires for it. By the way,
you ever get you know when somebody says, what celebrity
do you look like?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Or something like that.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I used to get this, like probably more when I
had hair that I used to look like Kevin James,
the guy.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
From King of Queens. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I don't know. You know, if you remember, obviously you
do the way.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
You're allowed to do. I remember Kevin James.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, yeah, Well the only reason I bring him up
one because people said I used to look like him too.
He's gonna play John Daily in the movie about John Daily.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I think that's that's a good that's a good setup. There.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I think he looks a little bit like Daily. I
think that kind of works out there, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, I think it works. And look, Kevin James is
he is I've always heard one of the nicest guys
in Hollywood. Yeah, just a really down to earth guy
who's easy to root for. King of Queens and like
a lot of the stuff that he's done, just not
interested like Paul Blart, Mall Coop and some of that
kind of stuff. Like it's it's not my style, but
(43:02):
I do think that it's important to have, you know,
family friendly guys that aren't here, aren't out here doing
awful stuff all the time. So him playing John Daly,
if you like Kevin James, it's gonna be Kevin James
playing John Daily. Like. It's just that he has kind
of you know what Kevin James is gonna give you,
and he'll deliver it in spades. It'll probably it'll probably
(43:23):
be fairly entertaining. He'll certainly give it the best that
he can.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Oh absolutely, I mean, I'll go ahead and see it.
I'm looking forward to you know, I'm a little bit
into the Hollywood scene. This company that wants to sign
me wants to send me out for an audition for
the new movie or that's gonna be filmed called Dexter.
I don't know if you've ever seen the TV show Dexter. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So they want me to go out for that.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:46):
To be what corpse?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I don't know, Probably to get killed somewhere somewhere, gruesome.
I've done a bunch of movies and TV shows, so
I was thinking of getting back in it. You know,
I'm a pretty good looking guy, so uh, thinking about
doing something like that.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I'm gonna google you now because I've had a vision
of you for years. I'm pretty sure I remember how
you look.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
But maybe I believe me.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I got a faith for our producers, Like, yeah, you're
you know you were made for this, built for this
to be behind away from the TV.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Could see it. You you you.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Had a time, yeah, a time when I had hair.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
People say it looked like a mix between like Jay
Leno and Jerry Cooney. But that's going way back there.
That's that's way back out there, my friends. So but uh, yeah,
that's a long time ago. We got a lot of
tweets to get to so if you want to be
part of the show J Martin Radio, I'm mistinking genius one.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Watch our listeners are gonna be said again.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, I look like this guy, and I look like
this guy, and I look like that guy.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I've always gotten the same one. Oh wait, I'm sorry,
I thought it was Jared Goffer.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
From from the hips to the neck right right, especially
that part out there no.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
People to my feet looked like Ryan Gossler's feet. Maybe
that's probably about That's probably about the only only comparison.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I did a I did a commercial with the late
Norm McDonald.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Oh, I didn't get I don't want to mislead everybody.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I didn't get to meet him.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
We were just in the same commercial and I got
to play you ever. You know Carls Junior, the Star,
the little mascot, the Star. He was the voice yeah
he yes, he was the voice of the Star. And
I was voice of Chucky the stunt star. So the
easiest money ever made in my life chasing you know, seriously,
(45:43):
I'm not kidding around. All I had to say was
like three words. All I had to do was go,
oh thanks, Star. I got five thousand dollars to do
the initial and then every time it was a national
commercial of course, like you mentioned Carls Junior Harty's, every
time it ran, I would get residual checks. So for
(46:05):
about six to eight months, I would get about two
hundred to two hundred and fifty checks from all these
cities all over, and the checks would be anywhere between
like twenty five dollars and two hundred and fifty dollars.
And you're getting like a couple of hundred checks per month.
Think about that for a second. How great of a
gig is that?
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (46:23):
You liked?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
My wife was racing to the mailbox at the end
of every month and see what checks we were getting.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Wait a second, I just googled, So I did google you, right,
so that we could continue along these lines. Yeah, you
were on the Newlywed Game. Yes, I found the video.
The video is on YouTube with the entire episode.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yes, we have it on YouTube. I was on the
Newlywed Game. That was a blast. I'll go ahead and
ruin the ending for everybody. We won, of course we won,
and boy, that that was a blast.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
My wife wanted to change one of the questions her answer,
and we weren't in the same room. They told they said, Beth,
if you change your answer, we have to bring up
two attorneys and do a bunch of paperwork.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, this is because there was like they asked two
hundred questions and they want to use like thirty of them.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
So Beth goes, I don't care. I want to change
an answer.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
They go, Beth, We're gonna have to bring up two
attorneys and sign some paperwork, and she.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Goes, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
So they brought up two attorneys, they signed the paper.
We're gonna happen to be the final jeopardy or the
jeopardy the final question, and it was in bed is
arn't he speed racer?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Or sex in the slowly? That was the That was
the final question.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
You know what's disappointing about this? Yeah, like I've got
it up now.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
No, No, Bob you banks, No, it wasn't. It wasn't
It wasn't Bob.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
It looks like Rick Patino was hosting the show.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh, I'll tell you, man, there's there's been some things.
There's been some game shows, some movies I've been on.
I could go on this all day. But yeah, if
you ever have a chance on YouTube. I was telling
Marriott to you before the show. We got to pull
some some clips of that. There's a couple of X
rated things. I said, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
You see you had hair. You had hair on this show.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Oh yeah, I was looking good.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I must have been about two hundred and eighty pounds
back and then looked like a big banana with that
yellow shirt on.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
So I don't know why why we went yellow. Did
the I don't make that choice, sir.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I was in a room by myself with the two
well watch you with the two other men, and the
other three women were in another room by themselves and
another four just so.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
There was no cheating, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
They don't play games. You can't be cheating out there.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
So yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
It was a fun time, free trip to la and
five days out there.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I'll watched the thing.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
If you ever want to go to a YouTube, just
put Arnie in best Spaniard on the Newlywed game and
believe me, it's it's a fun time. Couple X rated
questions there. I'm such a dope man. One question I
don't pay attention to the questions like what's your favorite restaurant,
and I just go.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Pete Saw and they're like, what do you need.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I's not even a restaurant, you Morali, What kind of
idiot are you? And I just felt like such a
I'm like, oh, sorry, I didn't I wasn't paying attention.
So but there you go on that. So, like I
said J Bart Radio, I'm in stinking genius one.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
All wait a second. I love the first comment, the
first comment on this video. I remember being a senior
in high school listening to Arnie on the radio at
my job. He talked about his upcoming appearance on this
show quite a bit. It's amazing he was only thirty
three here and now I'm forty.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Oh why did you have to read that?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Oh my goodness, man, that makes me feel real old.
Somebody recognizes that and recognized us at the airport from
the newly went game. I recognized my wife. We actually
we have a lot of tweets here. Let me just
get to a couple of them. Steak a genius. I
moved to la from Boston in ninety three. I got
(49:57):
the La Times. I was looking to read T. J.
Simer's and the Legend of Jim Murray Jim Murray was
the writer who coined the phrase cool was the other
side of the pillow describing Joe Montana. Yeah, those writers
Stuart Scott. Yeah, I thought that was Stuart Scott. Also, Yeah,
iconic writers out here in Los Angeles back then, no
doubt about that.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Jason and TJ.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Simers passing away at the age of seventy three years old.
Someone say, look up to TJ. Simers interview with Tommy Lesorta.
Was that the one where he asked, is what did
you think of Kingman's performance?
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Or was that somebody else to ask that question.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I'm gonna look that one up.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, because that's when Timmy sort of starts dropping the
F bombs and goes crazy. I thought that was somebody else,
but it could have been TJ. Simers, and mister nobody
tweets him says, I can still hate the Celtics for
the simple reason they've completely married themselves to analytics with
all those three point shots. Of course, I hate Luca
(50:53):
for being a cry baby. He wouldn't have lasted in
the Larry Birds NBA.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
You said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
You everybody loves the three point shot, and you're you
guys are kind of getting sick of it there. Uh, Jason,
you're you're kind of like that kind of turns jof
about the Celtics, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
I mean I feel like I'm becoming a curmudgeon. It's
just the three point shot is so every up and
down in every basketball game college. It's just wrecked college
basketball to me. And I think that it kind of
peaked a few years ago when Villanova won the championship
with U de Vincenzo and that team. It just felt
like it was threes every time up and down the floor.
(51:30):
And I used to love the three ball, and I
used to try and shoot the three ball myself. But
I just feel like there's no fundamental basketball being played
when you're just moving the ball around as fast as
possible to find somebody open, or you're just gonna take
a shot from fifteen feet beyond the three point line
and make it. It's just it's it's I kind of
wish this. A lot of people will disagree with this,
(51:51):
and probably rightfully so, but I kind of wish they'd
e race the three point line entirely. Wow, you want
to take the long shot, Go ahead and take the
long shot, but you don't get a bonus for it anymore. Wow,
just to see if that would encourage.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Again, wasn't there a commercial Chicks dig the three ball?
No wait wait, that was the long bob so well,
but it's not the same thing though. Isn't that kind
of like the same thing for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Because I think the NBA, the chicks would dig the
slam dunk. I think the equivalent of the home run
is a slam dunk, not the three point shot.
Speaker 7 (52:26):
It is, indeed the slam dunk.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
That's why I Harry getting in there. We're getting a
lot of tweets out here.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
Alreadie.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Jason wrote in the answer stick at Gunior gave for
his wife's favorite food and favorite TV show makes me
laugh still today. Jason Martin and Beth's reaction is must watch.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
They asked what her favorite TV show is and I
said Law and Order, and my wife looked at me
and goes, that's.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Your favorite TV show.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. I got them so bad.
I don't know how, Yeah, I don't. I don't know
how we won the round there, but yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I was awful.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
I can't I can't repeat what I said when they said,
what's the one thing about your wife that bothers you
the most? And so I think I gave it inappropriate
answer to that one. I probably the I'm surprised that
I'm still married.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
About that, all right?
Speaker 1 (53:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
And one other thing I want to get to before
we get back to the to the games and something
like that. I asked you, you know, you still said,
you know, Celtic fans are Boston fans in general not
hated anymore because they don't win. And I brought this
up and our number one, but we still hate the
Philly fans, right, we still hate the Cowboy fans, we
hate the Dallas fans. So why don't we hate the
(53:45):
Boston fans Becase it's not like the Dallas fans are winning,
and it's certainly not like the Philly fans are winning.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
You know, Yeah, I guess that's right. I think that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
It's just that, you know, it's been so long for
the Celtic that you know, we've kind of forgotten about
that hatred.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
But they seem like they feel like it feels like
we've been watching this team at this point in the year,
like for a decade. We haven't been, but it seems
like this unit is right around this spot every year
and we're just kind of waiting to see, are they
finally going to break through and win it this year?
And it hasn't really been that many times. But I
feel like I've watched Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown play
(54:24):
together for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
You know who's not hated anymore? But he used to
be hated and he's kind of involved in the finals?
Is Mark Cuban right?
Speaker 3 (54:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
It's because if he sold part of the team, or
he's not as boisterous as or anymore, or he's not
writing the officials, or maybe he's just not so visible.
I still think he is, though, Do we not hate
Mark Cuban anymore? He's a likable guy now, you know?
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Well? I think I definitely think is what he used
to do, like sort of the way that he conducted himself.
He didn't need to do that more. Luca will do
it for him. I think like the way he has
kind of waded into other issues. I don't like him
as much as I used to. I wasn't bothered by
(55:12):
the way. I just thought he was a super fan
and owner and sometimes came across like a petulant child.
But at the same time I thought he was good
for sports, and I kind of still do. He's just
kind of more in the background now he's not out
on there's not really the stuff that he used to
make news for. He just doesn't make news for anymore.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
All Right, A couple of things I wanted to get to.
Everybody's asking what are the Lakers waiting for? We thought
that JJ Redick was the front runner to get the
head coaching job. Of course JJ redickin is going to
be on the call of the finals. So I'm assuming
that the Lakers are waiting to after the finals for
it to be announced. I don't think it's going to
be anybody else. A you think it's gonna be JJ
(55:52):
Reddick too. Does that mean lebron comes with JJ Reddick
and all this stuff of Lebron going to the Suns
is just boloney?
Speaker 3 (55:59):
And three?
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Does that mean Bronny is going to be a member
of the Lakers because Lebron is gonna bring him around?
And is it gonna be a second round pick? Is
it going to be a free agency You tell.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Me what you think about that whole thing.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Hmmm. I mean, are we doing that after the break?
Speaker 3 (56:15):
We do it? No, you could do that, JJ Reddick.
First of all, I just.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Well Redick Reddick's claim to fame at this point. I mean,
we know who he is as a player and certainly
a smart guy. But when he started hosting the podcast
with Lebron James and they're breaking down plays, and you've
got articles being written that are fawning all over it
and saying this is just like detail with Peyton Manning,
detail with Kobe Bryant, all this, It's very obvious. At
(56:40):
the time. I didn't realize it. But as soon as
Darvin ham was officially let go and JJ Reddick's name
popped up, it's like, oh, that's why he's been doing
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
Do you think with Lebron is that a beginning job
being head coach.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Of the LA Wait? Shouldn't it? Shouldn't be right? I
mean the difference. I mean, Darbin Hammill was at least
on the bench somewhere else, you know, like he was
on he was a staff coach doing something else. JJ
Reddick hadn't coached anywhere.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
But he knows basketball. Do you have to have coached
anywhere else? I mean Guyard, Buddy.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
He's coaching in college, and I mean, I know he
coached on a lower level like his kids or AAU,
but you know he's gonna be a first time coach
there too.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
He is, and we'll see how that goes. I mean,
Gottlieb is a very smart basketball yt he is. The
one thing we don't know is how he's gonna do right,
And I think Doug would be the first one to
say that. I mean, we haven't seen him coach a
single game yet, so we don't know if it's gonna work.
I don't know. I mean, Spolstra is one of the
best NBA coaches of all time. And Spolstra was a
(57:43):
tape you know, film guy for the Miami Heat. Yes,
he was way up, but I'd look at Reddick and
what did Redick do? Reddick played, and then he started
doing a podcast, and then he got hired by ESPN,
and now he's gonna go coach the LA Lakers. Yeah,
it does seem like we were talking about maybe Dallas
felt like it feels like they're kind of cutting the
line right now from their seed and what they're doing,
(58:06):
and it's just outrageous to see them find their way
all the way the NBA Finals. I mean, if he
leaps straight to the head coach of the Lakers, I mean,
I don't know, I don't know what it is. It's
not that he won't be able to do the job,
it's just it's kind of similar. Well, I don't know
if that's fair. I was gonna say it's kind of
similar to Bronnie because Bronnie doesn't have an NBA future
(58:28):
outside of his dad, right, he's not at present time.
JJ Reddick really like, why would JJ Redick be in
the in the running for the Lakers job? But then
you hear what he's also high up in the running
for the Charlotte job. So somebody else was looking at
him as well, closer back to home where he played
at Duke. But so certainly he's smart and he's got acumen.
(58:50):
I just can't believe that's that's what you're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (58:53):
With, that's what they're gonna go with, and that just.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
To me means Lebron James is calling all the shots exactly.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
And we'll get back into that.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
We'll talk more about Lebron and Browny and also Todd
Furman usually joins us next segment.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
He's not coming on today, so I.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
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pan Kmartey Spanier. This is Fox Sports Radio. All right,
good evening everybody. Jason Martin In for Chris Pan Kmarty
spanierl live at the Tyreck dot com studios. Getting a
lot of tweets tonight if you want to join the show.
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Jmartin Radio. I'm at Stinking Genius One. Like Jason said,
Coach k is working as a consultant for the Lakers.
Maybe that's part of the reason why Reddick is being considered.
That just be a cherry on top, would it not be?
I mean, Lebron doing the podcast where you. It's got
to be the number one reason. Is it not there,
Jason or what?
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, it's Lebron. Yeah, I mean, this is one hundred
percent Lebron. And any time that he says anything otherwise,
nobody's buying that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
What's gonna happen the first time? What's gonna happen the
first time? They Lebron has to yell at JJ Reddick
or the other way around.
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
That's a good question. I mean, the fastest way to
be unemployed is to coach Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Yeah, Amen to that. Amen to that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
So I gotta I gotta read you this.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, t J.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Simmers. We talked about him earlier, of course, passing away.
He did an interview with the big lead back in
the day, and this was I guess probably around the time.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
J mack was still there, Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
So so he was let go and can from around
the horn for saying critical stuff. We're talking to de
Seger about that. Here's what he said in the interview
about that this is just like it or hate it,
you almost have to respect it. He says, I ripped
around the horn like I ripped my boss wife CEO
of our company, Dodgers, et cetera. I started ripping around
(01:01:18):
the horn before it went on the air, ripping myself
as much as anyone. So I get a call telling
me I'm being taken off the show for a few
days and if I stop ripping the show, I'll be
back on. So I ripped the show the next day.
Now I find it amusing to hear ESPN talking heads
wondering whether Brian Gumbele should be fired from his NFL
gig for his nasty, nasty remarks in regards to the NFL.
(01:01:38):
You can rip anyone, and ESBN would prefer you did,
so long as you don't rip them. And no no
interest in going back under those conditions.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Wow, no wonder they went ahead and fired of them.
Why was he so mad at the show? I don't understand.
And it's been on for such a long time. You know,
they've gone through so many hosts. What was he so
mad about.
Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
I was trying to find the Lesorda deal. Lesorta actually
was one of his witnesses in the case on his side.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I didn't know that. And by the way, someone John
tweeted and said it was Yankee pa announcer Paul Olden,
who asked was sort of the famous question, what did
you think of Kingman's performance?
Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Dave Kingman? Of course, it hit three home runs that day, and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Lasorda just unleashed a some f bombs. I couldn't even
tell you how many. I couldn't even come close to.
Unless you have the edited version, you just can't play it.
It's just that crazy out there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
We're not Yeah, we're not gonna be able to do
that on terrestrial national radio because I'd still like to
be able to do this again next week.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
See, those were the days when you could do something
like that, when you could. And yeah, when I said that, TJ.
Simers used to write media columns. He'd go after some
of the media also too. He wasn't afraid to do that.
Didn't say how much he got. I thought he got
close to fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Dollars seven point oh. So I was off.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I was off on that. Wow. Still good money, though,
was it?
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Yeah, not that yet. Not bad money when you could
find it. I read that about the consultant about it.
If it was coach k You know, of course, you
know that Genie Bust, the owner of the Lakers, and
I went to high school with Genie, so I should
have asked Genie out.
Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
We could have gone the west Wood.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I could said Genie, come on, let's go to a
movie this weekend. Then we'll have dinner at the Taco
Bell and then we'll go ahead and we'll go out.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
But you know, who knows.
Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
If she would have gone out with we probably fallen
in love and I'd be part owner of the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Of course, she's married to j Moore right now.
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
So but there was a guy in our high school
who ended up coaching with Popovich for twenty years, became
the shot doctor in the NBA now was an assistant
for Oklahoma City and you saw what they did this year,
Chip England.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I don't think you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Guys probably know him, and he went to high school
with us. Also, Genie should have went ahead and asked
him for his you know, to be a consultant since
we all went to high school together, and who should
be the next coach When you worked for Popovich for
twenty years, you probably know a lot of names out there.
And of course, like I said, he's the shot doctor
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for all the guys he worked with Kawhi Leonard on
how to shoot from the outside and stuff like that.
We had a great shooting coach in high school, so
I felt that she made a mistake by not asking him.
She definitely could have asked me, Jason Martin. You know
I could have gone and give her some advice. You know,
I could add some good advice for you know.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
That, my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Yes, mellow, you give horrible advice.
Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
For Did they run that commercial too many times?
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Or what one more is about? All I can take, like,
I don't know where the suit where the suit ends
and park begins.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
That seems like it's got to be running at every break,
all right, I do. I do want to get to
that college football subject. I want to get into the
CA Clark I. We'll get that coming up. We got
the saga Jordguez at forty five past the hour. But
before we get anything else, the saga walks right on in.
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Right now, we see what's trending.
Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Everything is a final I believe in college baseball. So
everything good to go, except for that one cancel eah
of that one postponemam.
Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
Yeah, you may have heard that. On Saturday, Dallas Baptists
eliminated the Arizona Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yeah, but they lost Grand Canyon.
Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Wildcats lost in home in the opening
the Grand Canyon. Grand Canyon just lost the late game
eliminated by West Virginia tonight, so they advance Oregon. That's typical, Ernie,
Oregon and Texas and each advance Virginia in k state.
Plenty of others Number one Tennessee as well. By the way, Arnie,
there are many reasons why Jeanie Buss would not have
(01:05:44):
gone out with you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
And she would have gone out. We would have seen
Animal House, that was a new movie out the time.
Speaker 7 (01:05:49):
One of the reasons she would not have is that
voice that you just used pretending to ask her.
Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Out, Well, that's the voice I had.
Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Backed it worked, Albarga Taco Bell was big then a
Taco Bell and Westwood at the time.
Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Everybody would hang out there.
Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
By the way, the TJ. Simer settlement was seven million,
but the La Times appealed and then it got more
than doubled.
Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
So yeah, so I knew I was rioted. It was
about fifteen million dollars. How great was that?
Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
And by the way, as far as the NBA ratings
regular season, here in this postseason, the National TV NBA
playoff ratings are at four point one million. That includes
the Dallas series, which did pretty well six point seventy
five million. The finals are going to do more than that.
Regular season NBA one point six million viewers across TNTESPN,
(01:06:42):
and ABC, and that's about five years running one point
six million viewers. WNBA notes we talked about this story
last night after the close game with Chicago and Indiana.
Angel Reese of the Chicago Sky was fined one thousand
dollars for failing to make her sale available to the
media for interview US yesterday. In addition to Chicago organization
(01:07:03):
has been fined five thousand dollars for failing to ensure
that all players comply with media policies on the court.
At New York tonight, the Liberty at seven and two
beat the Indiana Fever a two to nine team one
O four to sixty eight. Caitlin Clark was one of
ten shooting from the floor from three point range one
of seven. She had three points yesterday and their one
(01:07:25):
point win against Chicago. She had eleven points, eight rebounds,
but six turnovers with six assists. With five turnovers and
from three point range yesterday, Clark was two of nine.
As for the NHL, the Stanley Cup Final is set.
It begins at Florida on Saturday. Florida had won the
Eastern Conference. Last night, Edmonton takes the West. Finally, I
(01:07:47):
can't waste tonight two to one over one seed Dallas
Edmonton on I.
Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Love watching Gretzky anyway, so I'm happy.
Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
You know they've done.
Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Check out Messy. This guy's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (01:07:57):
They've done precious little since about nineteen ninety so, in fact,
haven't been in the final since two thousand and six.
But how they got their winning tonight? We mentioned they
were out shot thirty five to ten and still won
the game for a finals clincher, A conference finals clincher.
I should say it's the worst shot differential by any
winning team, getting out shot thirty five to ten and
(01:08:18):
still advanced.
Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
I would have just fired shots from center to it
that point.
Speaker 7 (01:08:24):
Anything, they were very much protecting the lead throughout it.
It worked, so we've got an Oilers Panthers final. Those
two have never met in the postseason. In fact, the
league says this is five straight years that the Stanley
Cup Final is a matchup of franchises that have never
met in the.
Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Postseason in between tiers. Seeing ratings going down the tubes
for this one.
Speaker 7 (01:08:44):
Well, I think it's going to be more than the
one point six million that the NBA got regular season,
but it's not going to come close again to NBA post.
Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
If I'm right.
Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Do they put in the Canadian audience for the ratings
or they're not.
Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
Oh, you remember the Raptors. Raptors run NBA and there
is no Toronto ratings. It's not a US media market.
Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Yeah, you can't do that though, that's not fair.
Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
Meanwhile, we have the NBA Finals at some point in
our lifetime coming along this week Thursday night, it's due
to be the Celtics hosting the Mavericks in Game one.
Next Sunday night is Game two at Boston. Dallas will
be hosting games three and four, but that's not till
June twelfth and fourteenth. Ooh, Wednesday and Friday of the
next week. At College Softballs World Series, Florida and Stanford
(01:09:33):
each one elimination games. Austin Sindric won the NASCAR race
at Gateway in Illinois. This is five miles from the
Gateway Arch Saint Louis, but it's on the other side
of the Mississippi River. This race was on FS one
today and Ryan Blaney was leading and ran out of
gas late in the race. That allows Cindric to pass
him for the victory, his first since Daytona two years ago.
Fired It is an eighty five race drought that adds.
(01:09:57):
Denny Hamlin finished second. Simone Biles won the US Gymnastics
title for the ninth time tonight in Fort Worth. The
Olympic trials are late this month. In Minnesota. The Sunday
night ballgame went to the Cardinals in ten innings, five
to four at Philadelphia. Nolan Gorman of the Cards a
homer and three RBIs, and the Yankees have won five straight.
They got four runs top of the ninth to win
(01:10:18):
at San Francisco seven to five.
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
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one a couple of things I want to bring up,
and you're a little mat at you. Jason Martin. I'm
going to tell you why, my friend, Well, because if you,
let's say you were getting married in let's say two
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months from.
Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Let's let's not say that I don't think. I don't
think my wife and two daughters I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Well, let's let's turn back the clock and say you're
getting married. I would expect you to start telling us
wedding stories and where you're going on your honeymoon, and
the problems arose, and the flowers are not going to
get delivered on time, or this dot and the other
would be hearing stories about it because it's a big
event in your life. It's a umongous event. I don't
know if this is a good comparison, but you are
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the college football stud the guru. I don't know if
anybody lives college football more than you, other than maybe,
let's say, Jeff Schwartz. I like college football. But we're
about to have an historic year here, a year that
we've never seen before in our entire lives. I mean,
this year is so historic. It's going to change the
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landscaping of college football, not only because of the new conferences,
because of the way we're gonna start doing playoffs too.
I just can't believe that we're not pumping this up more,
especially with all the new matchups and all the new
places where are that are gonna carry games? And the
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new Big Ten and the new SEC Are you not
pumped for this?
Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
This is like historic.
Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I thought you'd be counting down the days like on
a calendar, marking an X until it's start college football season.
Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
You know, Well, I mean you're saying that I'm not
excited about it. I'm super excited about it. But it's
June the.
Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Second, right, But it is historic though.
Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Right right now, I'm excited about EA Sports College Football
twenty five it comes out of July, and I'm excited
about the Phil Steel book coming out because that's kind
of when college football feels like it's really here. I'm
giving it time to breathe. I mean, we've got the
NBA Finals right now. We've got that for a couple
of weeks, then we can jump into this. It's early summer.
There's not anything to get that excited about yet. I'm
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gonna try and buy my time so I'm full of
energy for week one. I'm maybe at Torres and I
can't wait.
Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Right Well, maybe I jumped the gun because I saw
before the show today they put out the odds on
winning the conferences. I pulled the odds on who's going
to win the Big Ten? And guess who's number one?
And it's not Ohio State, it's not Penn State, and
it's not Michigan. How do you like them apples?
Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
My friend?
Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Interesting? It is the Oregon Ducks, the new kid on
the Oregon team.
Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Thirty seven point five percent chance. They're saying the Oregon
Ducks will go ahead and win the Big Ten, and
they're by far the favorites to win that conference. From
thirty seven point five in second place Ohio State twenty
five point seven, then Penn State twenty two point two,
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then Michigan all the way at seven percent. And this
is the part that got me USC two point nine percent,
and then all the way down at UCLA at.
Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Zero point three percent.
Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
You don't even get a ticket for DUI at zero
point three percent?
Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Or is it point oh three?
Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Excuse eight? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yeah, it's point oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Point eight eight point oh eight are the new teams
except for Oregon obviously they're right up there. But USC
at two point nine and UCLA at point three. I
can't I can't wait to watch USC take on some
of these.
Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Big Ten teams.
Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
I can't wait for UCLA and Michigan in some of
those games. I'm just so pumped up for this, But
I was surprised when I saw those odds.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
You know, well, yeah, I mean that's it's interesting, But
if you really look at it, you lose Caleb Williams
USC last year. I mean, that defense was such.
Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
A debacle, horrible, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Just an embarrassment. And Lincoln Rowley's never been able to
feeld one, not at Oklahoma, not at USC. You bring
in somebody, maybe that's gonna change it, but we're gonna
have to see that. And you're going from the Pac
twelve to the Big Ten, where they're gonna try and
run it down your throat a whole lot. You're gonna
be going from playing in warm weather to playing in
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you know, not warm weather. If you're USC, they're going
into a different universe now. And two percent probably feels
about right because I know what they are because Kayleb
Williams was their team, right. I mean, that's a low number,
but this is the breaks of joining the conference. You
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see the highs when you're Oregon. Oregon's bringing a whole
lot of that team back. Not everybody, of course, but
a whole lot of that team is coming back. Lanning
seems to really have that program firing on all cylinders.
Ohio State has had an incredible last six to seven weeks.
Whatever you think about Ryan Day, they're always going to
be in the mix. Do you have Charon Moore in
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his first year at Michigan. But at the same time
they lost a lot, so they I believe in Sharon Moore.
I just don't know if they're going to have all
the tools that they need in the toolbox to get
the job done this season. Penn State, I'm never going
to believe in as long as James Franklin is a coach,
just because.
Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Well, third, they're predicted third.
Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
That's about what he is. He's about third, Like, that's
about what James Franklin is. James Franklin on Saturdays game days,
that's not his best day. His best day is when
he's recruiting and doing the used car salesman deal inside
of somebody's home.
Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
If we have time, I'll give you odds on other conferences.
When we get back, though, the saga will stop on bye.
Get to some of the stories we haven't had a
chance to talk about yet that's coming up next right
here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're live at
tyreck dot com Studios Jason Martin and for Chris play
Cammarti Spaniard.
Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Why right here at Fox Sports Radio. What did we miss?
Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Let's check in with our buddy Steve the Saga. See
what's going on? What's up out there? To Sega?
Speaker 7 (01:16:28):
You mentioned USC football. Their opener this season is the
Sunday night game that first weekend from Vegas, USC against LSU.
Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
But they tried to back out of that game. What
was going on there?
Speaker 7 (01:16:39):
They can't back out of that game. They weren't in.
Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
They were trying to for a long time.
Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Well they're in. It's USC LSU the first Sunday night.
Most teams open that final weekend of August, including some
Thursday night games. I haven't seen like blockbuster great opening matchups.
It'll get better later. But yeah, there are a ton
of games college football final weekend of August. As for
the NHL, we've got a Stanley Cup Final that's Florida
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hosting Edmonton starting Saturday. There was a Sportsnet stat from
Canada right after the Oilers clinch that this finals matchup
a Miami team against Edmonton Alberta team. It's the longest
distance between two finalists ever in the NHL. And somebody,
a college football writer immediately said, yeah, it's going to
hold the record for longest distance between finalists until the
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Big Ten football final is like Oregon Rutgers. So stay
tuned on that.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Well, always go with the goaltending Grand Fear, great goaltender
goal with him.
Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Okay, yeah, Grant Fear.
Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Nobody knows what I'm going to work with me, your people,
I'm using my good stuff here on you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Olers, work with me a little bit here.
Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
What is an amazing story is that the Oilers are
even here because they fired their coach early in the season.
They had such a poor start. In fact, the Oilers
had started to a tent well technically two nine and
one overtime loss, but let's say two to ten five
points in the standings. That's now the fewest points in
the standings through twelve games in NHL history by any
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team that went on to play in the final.
Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
That I like, Paul Coffee, that's nothing, nothing nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Did I give up? I give up? That's it. I'm
not gonna no more.
Speaker 7 (01:18:24):
Note my references. Okay, we have an update to a
story we brought up last night from college baseball. This
is the sound of the applause for the Birmingham Southern
baseball team as they concluded their season today. Why are
we talking Birmingham Southern baseball because they were in the
Division three World Series. Again. Why are we talking Birmingham
(01:18:48):
Southern Baseball because the school as of Friday does not exist.
It closed for good. It had been a college since
the eighteen hundreds, but without state funding. They had announced
a couple of months ago this is going to be
our last year. So the school closes Friday. The baseball
team wins to stay alive on Saturday and then loses
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eleven to ten to Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Be a little bit of like, was it Jim Craig
came from a school that was the longer route, was
like Milton College or something like that.
Speaker 7 (01:19:20):
Oh it was, Yeah, who is the quarterback with Dave Craig?
You're talking? Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it did not exist, and
I think he was still playing at the time in
the NFL and his college did. Oh Jim Zorn, right,
Jim Jim z Orn was I think played for Occidental
and they dropped football. But the college, of course, still existed.
What you're talking about, the actual school stopped existing exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
All right too.
Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
If I appreciate that the Sega short segment two hours
of the Books Power Hour next year on Fox Sports Radio,
Oh I still I got a home what I literally
said two minutes, and I hear you say while you're
closing out the show, You're like, boy, really bad.
Speaker 7 (01:20:07):
This is the problem for somebody who doesn't even know
his producer's name, and it's proud of it, thinks he
can be the producer.
Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
He calls me Awards was producers.
Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I knew.
Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I heard somebody in my ear going, no, you got
another minute, But I'm like, that can't be a producer.
We don't have one. I don't understand, especially seconds left right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Keep going. Thank you very much. I appreciate that I
screwed that one up and usually flagged screws it up.
Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Don't quit your day, j On Man. Thank you the
thing you won the.
Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Game because your shoes he not winning the radio game.
Speaker 7 (01:20:41):
Chris, come back, all.
Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Right, when we come back, I have no idea what
we're going to talk about now. How about that you're
frustrated me here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh good evening, everybody.
Jason Martin in for Chris Blank, I've already spatt your
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I want to apologize on behalf of the saga for
screwing on the up that last segment.
Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Shaman de Seger.
Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
You know, the sega's been doing this for like one
hundred and fifty years and he screwed that up.
Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
So he's bad, and all.
Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
The audio is saved so we can easily go back
to the.
Speaker 7 (01:21:33):
Time we've been replaying it like three times now.
Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
I'll blame you guys too.
Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I'll blame the producers if we have one anyway, and
our technical directors and all that. Don't bring me in this.
I was in your ear, I said, two minutes, not
too much.
Speaker 7 (01:21:48):
Lang's gonna hear about this one next week.
Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Arnie.
Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
You know it's not like Plank doesn't do the same thing.
He's done it a couple of times.
Speaker 7 (01:21:54):
We're gonna take away your picks. No more pickside.
Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Of the program. Please be sure to podcast us search
us wherever you get your podcasts, and save this one
for perpetuity, because this is gonna be like, you know,
destroying documents in the West Wing or something like that.
Or he's gonna try and get everything.
Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
I'll get it out.
Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
I'll get our worthless producer to cut that part out
of the show. SORRD so our boss doesn't hear that
our boss is in a bad mood because.
Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
All the Minnesota teams lost.
Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
When the Minnesota teams lose, he's always, you know, yelling
at me.
Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
He just he's a bear.
Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
I mean, he's unbelievable, hard to work for when the
Minnesota teams lose.
Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Isn't that right, Jason or what?
Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
I've never heard him, yeah, entire life.
Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
He's not gonna say anything bad about the boss.
Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Hey, they sent me something. I got it. I got it.
Came a few days ago. They sent us some very
nice things for our newborn. They didn't have to do that,
but they sound like a hand embroidered blanket on it
and a onesie with the logo and a bid with
the logo, which was similar to what they did when
Claire Grace was born. It's awesome, very that'll be a
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that'll be a post on X. At some point, we'll
put her in those things when she's ready for him.
She's a big one though. She actually got aided this week.
She's eight weeks, she's fourteen and a half pounds.
Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Wow, she is a wow.
Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Start start getting ready for her little w NBA stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
She might be six feet tall. I mean, my wife's
almost six feet tall and I'm six two and a half.
Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Yeah, so yeah, you're somewhat. That's more than an average
for a guy. There's no doubt about that. So, by
the way, speaking about the w NBA, look at that.
Look at that transition from the saga and my producers
the last segment to the way I transitioned to Caitlin
Clark bad shooting Night one for ten. I think she
left the game early. Not a good performance. She is
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having her struggles. She is putting up some good numbers,
but she's having her struggles in the w NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, but let's let's let's let's stop right there. Go ahead,
tell me real fast, like all right, So they lost
by or they won by one on Saturday, Okay, and
that I went. I actually went and watched the foul
and that was as dirty as it gets. Knocking her
down just just ridiculous. She had her ear was bothering
her or something on Sunday. But this is the big thing.
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They played a back to back. They played on Saturday
and then they played on Sunday against the Liberty team
that's really good. Like I was just looking at it
after the fact, say, Okay, she had three points on
one of ten. Anybody can have a bad day, But
is there something that would also help explain it. Well,
the Liberty haven't played since May thirty first until today.
Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Right, they'd also they've had like.
Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Three days off going into this and the Fever, who
aren't that good anyway, played yesterday in a game that
came down to the last second and then immediate we
had to come back out twenty four hours later and
play against one of the best teams in the league.
So again, it's just I think it's important to put
the context out there. She did have a horrible game
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before the worst game of her career, but you could
have potentially looked at that and said, Okay, well, maybe
that's a little bit more explainable. They have been absolutely
crushed in terms of all the games that they've played
already this season.
Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
You know, I watch it up as I mean, look
here we are talking about the WNBA, right, and how
great that is for the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
I had done a when I was working at another network.
Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
We had a you know, we pulled somebody out of
the audience. If they made a half court shot, you
got like one hundred thousand dollars or something like that.
It was before the Liberty game. I remember looking at
the crowd and the people tell me, this is unbelievable.
Look at this crowd. Yeah, it wasn't even a third full.
It wasn't even a third full. And I'm thinking about
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that night because they were given away one hundred thousand
dollars to get even that third into the crowd there.
Compared to now, where the Indiana Fever have more higher
tenants in five.
Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Home games then they did all of last year.
Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I mean, it is remarkable what Caitlin Clark is doing
to draw these people into the game. And I saw
before the game today she went over to a group
of kids that were wearing the Iowa shirts and the
Fever shirts and the Caitlin Clark shirts, took pictures with them.
She's doing everything you're supposed to do, not when you're
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in the WNBA, not when you're a rookie, but when
you're going into any sport, whether it's baseball, football, basketball, hockey, track.
Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
And field, tennis.
Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
I don't care, be humble, remember where you came from,
and give back to the fans that love you. That's
exactly what she's doing. I actually tweeted that out, the
video of her getting around all the kids. I thought
that was fantastic and I think she loves to do
it and good for her. But I just Jason, for
the life of me, and I know we talked about
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this yesterday. The jealousy has gotten out of can. Yes,
I know there's competitiveness and they want to win, and
I know that it gets chippy in the WNBA, and
I'm totally okay with that. But the pettiness and the
way some of the girls are going after Caitlin Clark,
it's out of control. And why her own teammates don't
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do anything to have her back or to protect her,
and maybe they do, I don't because I don't watch
all the games, is beside myself. I I just don't
understand it. You have to protect somebody like that, and
I just can't understand the jealousy and the pettiness, as
Charles Barker would say. Here, they are flying at commercial flights,
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they're getting more money outside of the game, they're getting commercials,
and that's all because of Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
I just don't understand what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
You know, they were tired of her before she got there,
and I said, they you don't want to loop everybody
right in jenal Right, Yes, they were tired of her
before because they had heard enough and they had seen
kind of the pageantry surrounding her last few months at
Iowa and just the coverage that she was getting and
all this kind of stuff. And generally speaking, it feels like,
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whether or not it's true, it feels like they'd rather
their league not be successful if it means she would
fall on her face, and that stinks. That level of
just spite, if that's what it feels like, it feels
very spiteful towards her, right, And they're a myriad of
factors that go into it. But the larger point here
(01:28:37):
is and everyone knows this, whether they want to admit
it or whether they want to write a bunch of
columns about other women basketball players that do nothing from
a business standpoint, doesn't mean anything about their basketball acumen
or anything else. That's not what we're talking about here.
We're talking about sometimes there's bigger stars. There's just bigger stars.
Sometimes you catch lighting in a bottle. And if you're
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a league like a WNBA, this is the a block
on a national sports radio show in June. We're not
in the playoffs, we're not in your postseason, which I
don't even know when it starts, and we're talking about
your league because there's something special here. There's something unique here.
It feels like something you want to go be a
part of when it comes to your town. I want
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to see your play once. I want to be able
to say, yeah, I went and saw Caitlin Clark whatever.
Like There's just there's events like that, and I don't
know how long it lasts. I don't know how long
you actually have here before everyone goes back into their
regular routines and the WNBA kind of recedes back to
(01:29:40):
not being relevant on the national sports scene. So I
feel like everybody is missing the opportunity to drift off
of her. If you want to think of her like
a race car, you can everybody can go a little
bit faster with her. But I don't think that the
way to do that is cheap shot fouls and some
(01:30:01):
of this stuff, like some of the comments, like the
Angel Reese comment for example. I mean, yeah, but Angel rees.
The reason we know who Angel Reese is is because
we know the Clarks exactly, and she's still doing that.
And honestly, it's smart by her because she's trying to
stay Caitlin Clark's rival. She's still because she says kind
stuff about her in press conferences that you know, we're friendly,
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you know, we don't hate each other, and all this
kind of stuff. I don't know if that's true or not.
I know that that's a rivalry that feels like it's
you know, ripped out of pro wrestling. It feels like
it would be right at home in WWE or AEW
or somewhere like that. But if you're Angel Reese, she's
not that great a basketball player. Not that she's terrible,
but she's not going to be you know, she's not
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going to go down as one of the greatest of
all time or anything. But she has an opportunity and
she I think is taking advantage of it in the
right way. But some of this stuff, as you mentioned,
is beyond the pale, and it's just harmful because it's
we don't know your name because you elbowed Caitlyn. It
just makes us look at and be like, well, why
do we even care about your stupid league? Like that's
(01:31:05):
how it feels. It's like, do you want us to
watch or not? Do you do you want to take
advantage of this? Do you like some of the things
that are happening, or do you just want us to
go back to treat you the way we did last
year in terms of your league, because we'll be glad
to do that. There's I mean, it's not that entertaining.
Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
When's the last time we had an athlete that went
ahead and brought this much attention to a sport. I mean, yes,
there was a Lebron, there was a Gretzki when he
came into the NHL, burden magic. Obviously they saved the NBA.
I mean, I know the answer, Tim Tebow. Maybe are
we talking about team sports or overall, just don't like
(01:31:42):
tiger Woods. Well, Tiger Wood, yes.
Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
And then you can look at for women's tennis, you
could look at Venus and Serena. I think maybe Mike Tyson, Yeah,
Tyson and boxing. I definitely think that's a that's a
good one. I mean there there are some examples of this.
I mean, nobody cared about swim, but they carecter individual
those are individual sports.
Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Yeah, look at the teams.
Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Yeah, if you look at team sports in terms of
just saving a league, you talk about Magic and Larry
I definitely think there is something to be said, and
then Lebron kind of picking up the torch for Michael
Jordan and then it's him and Kobe and but I
do think that there were other uh contributors that had
that same kind of thing. Baseball has been struggling to
(01:32:27):
find that person. I don't think Mike Trout's been their
best player. But Mike Trout wasn't that guy. He wasn't
the one that was going to stand out in that way. Now,
maybe you have like a Dela Cruz now or something
like that, but you don't have you don't have some
of the personalities that you had with those mid eighties
Mets teams, Harper some of those kind of people. Yeah,
(01:32:48):
Harper is a good example. Yeah, I think that's true.
But but you're right. I mean, Caitlin Clark is the
entire league from a from a financially uh been official standpoint. Again,
this is not that no one's working hard and that
no one can play and all this other kind of
stuff relative to the women's game. It's just that you
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have one meal ticket from a business perspective.
Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
And she's bringing in money from the TV revenue and
making that higher so they can get a better salary
from years down the line. It's gonna be because of her,
for the reason in two, three, four years, salaries will
go up because you got to pay an extra You
gotta pay more money for the rights of the WNBA,
(01:33:33):
so that money is gonna go back to the WNBA
and you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
A higher salaries.
Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
But don't make any mistake about it, the league still
doesn't make any money.
Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
It's subsidized by the NBA.
Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
When is it gonna be able to stand out in
its own two feet That's gonna be the question.
Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Yeah, And I don't know if the watcher is ever
gonna be I don't know that it will ever stand
on his feet because for all of the women's basketball
is now renaissance on the I don't think so. I
think this is this is a moment in time that
you need to take as much advantage of as possible.
But you also need to be realistic and look at
(01:34:06):
what's what is success for the WNBA. Is this the
high point you hope not if you're in women's basketball,
but at the very least you can't afford to squander it.
And that's what I see in some ways that right now,
everything that you read about this doesn't make me want
to actually watch it, but like you know what, you've
(01:34:29):
done a good job at pushing me away.
Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Sharon tweets and said, I have to believe that Caitlin
Clark was heard by that disgusting hit. She was hit
hard and it hit hard on the floor. I think
that may have had it would effect on today's game,
could have been like you said, Jason was back to
back games too, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Yeah, I mean she was worn out, the team was
worn out. They I mean they got beat by like
forty I mean they got absolutely destroyed in the game.
She was complaining with something with her ear. I don't know.
I think it was something actually happened during the game,
but certainly that comment is not off base. I mean
that shot was just there was nothing basketball about that.
Even Caitlin Clark said that wasn't a basketball play. I mean,
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just walk past her angry and just straight up elbowed
her and knocked her down. There wasn't that the ball
wasn't even in play at the time. It was. It
was like immediate ejection right there. I know they upgraded
it to a flagrant one, right which flagrant one? That's
just flagrant as it gets because it was just basically
assaulting someone for no reason.
Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
I like this tweet that came in just now.
Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Can't the Indiana Fever hire Beer Bill Lambier as a
special assistant coach to sit and just glare at the
Chicago sky Post players for the rematch? Yeah, that would
be pretty good, especially if he still has that black eye,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Just that Beer was was part of the WNBA, was
he not.
Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
I think he used to be a coach, but I'm
not sure, like.
Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
I think he actually has a tie to that. I
do think he was a head coach at some point
so I mean, that's not out of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Just have him stared glare at the other team and
get him.
Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Get Rick Mahore. Where's Anthony Mason right now? Like find
the all like the all Goon team.
Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
I think Anthony Mason might have passed away? Uh oh really, yeah,
I think did I miss that? You might have to
do you have to pull that up.
Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
I used to do this all the time. I used
to actually do it in reverse and say this person's
dead and they were still alive.
Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Oh well, yeah, I think I'm not a hunt I think.
Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
He did pass away, you know what. And he passed
away a long time ago too. I totally missed that.
Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Wow, well, well I was gonna say a couple of
years ago, but time flies on by that. But yeah,
you get some of the bad boys sitting on the
bench out there and kind of glare at the other team.
It's it's kind of bad that her team isn't very good.
I'm wondering how long we're to continue to tune on
in to watch Caitlin Clark until we're like, Okay, enough
is enough. They're not a good team that losing by
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twenty or twenty five points every time, well, I.
Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Want to know what the TV ratings are going to be, Like,
I'm curious to see what the TV ratings are is
this season goes along because everybody tuned in for the
curiosity factor. I'm now already to the point where I'm
just kind of following it via the news that's happening
right and the box scores. I'm not going and finding
the games. I did that for like the first week.
It's not that if I saw her playing, I wouldn't
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stay and watch for a minute or two or whatever.
But I feel like that's going to continue to kind
of deteriorate. There's gonna be some entropy there. We're gonna
see a little bit of decomposition of that, and it's
just gonna kind of it's gonna come. There's gonna be
a baseline, but I think that baseline is gonna be
relatively small in terms of people that are actually tuning
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in and watching the games. And it definitely does not
help that the team hasn't been good and they've been
put through murderers row when it comes to a schedule
early in the season, and the one thing they can't
have is her be bad and she's not. She had
that one. She had a terrible game on Sunday. But
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the one thing they need is for her to be good,
like she's got to be good, because that's really what
her aura was to be in with in colleges, that
she was that good.
Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
We had a host, I know, a host that said
she should be playing in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Yeah, we won't met your names, sane.
Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
We won't mention your names out there.
Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
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I also have the odds on who's gonna win the SEC.
(01:38:31):
If you want to get into little football, we'll have
that coming up next right here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, good evening, everybody, Jason Martin In for Chris Plank,
Camari Span you here in Fox Sports Radio. We are
live from the TIREC dot Com studios. Moving along on
this Sunday night, Still a lot to get to. You know,
Jason Plank and I always argue that we don't hit
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all the Roman numerals that I write down before the show.
We write, we write Roman numerals. That's the way it
was done old's school. I don't know if you learned
that in school. Well, that's what that's how you run outlines.
Roman numeral number one. I gave you the big ten.
Maybe see if I can stump you on the SEC
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because you are the you are the college football guy Georgia,
the favorite to win the SEC the subcoming year. They're
plus one eighty five. That means one hundred dollars get
you back one eighty five. Do you want to take
a guess who's second? Who's predicted a second to win
the SEC?
Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
I have not seen this, but I would say.
Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Texas, Oh good, guess I thought I was gonna catch it.
Maybe you thought that maybe Texas you forgot they were
gonna be in the SEC. I was a little surprised
about that. Plus three ten, then Ole miss at plus
six fifteen.
Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Oh, I mean if they don't win with what they
I mean, look at their look at how they've handled
and who they're bringing in, Like the nil money and
what they've spent like that. That's why they were up there,
Like you look at that roster is loaded and we
all know lank if it can coach let me, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
I It just occurred to me as we were talking
about Texas and we were talking about Caitlin Clark, and
we said, when's the last time somebody came into a
team sport that we desperately wanted to see? Could I
put arch Manning in that maybe position? But what we
were dying is if I told you that he was
going to start Game one, you would have that circled
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with a red marker, you know, with an asterisk.
Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Sake, I can't wait, wouldn't you know? Let's go?
Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
I want everybody would watch that game? Right, That's that's true.
Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
But that would be a different factor because we already
know what Caitlin Clark is as a quantity, because we've
actually seen her play a lot in college like WNBA Y.
I understand that's different. But arch Manning we know nothing
about except what he's done in high school.
Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
Is he gonna stay there? Because I don't think he's
gonna play this year?
Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
Right, He's not going to play this year it'll be
yours unless you weres gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Oh my Goodnes don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
I mean I think that if there's anybody that would
tell him stay the course, it would be Hayden and Eli, right.
I think that I think that the family that he
is in, he knows he's gonna get his opportunity and
he doesn't need to rush this.
Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
He thought he was going to be a four year
starter probably.
Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Or not right, because I mean, he's going if he
has the talent that we're told that he has, he's
going to end up in the NFL. He's gonna have
his moment to be the starting quarterback at Texas. If
he wants to leave and go somewhere else, then you know,
that's a that's a that's a chance that he can take.
But I just think that they're probably telling him, look,
(01:41:34):
you're gonna get your opportunity to shine like it's it's
yours time right now. If yours goes down, then maybe
you're gonna have that opportunity a little bit sooner. But
I don't think arts needs to rush.
Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Is Arch penty a time another Brownie James situation happened, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Doesn't play with the height that he yeah, but look
at the HYPEI coming out of high school, like look
at you know, yeah, but that but a lot of
that was stro with Arch. It was just look at
what he can do. He's he's got the arm Peyton
and Eli, but he can also move and all of
those things like that stuff didn't just come out of
(01:42:11):
thin air. Like he was an incredible prospect and we
knew that coming out. And by the way, quinn Ewers
was like a perfect prospect, like in terms of his
ratings coming out of high school. So you look at
where he finds himself. Now, now he is in this
prime opportunity and Arch is just kind of sitting there
Biden's time. He's going to be fine, and maybe who
knows how how much he's learning behind the scenes, and
(01:42:34):
when he does take over, he's going to be much
more equipped and the stuff that maybe he couldn't have
known until he got there. He might have all the tangibles,
but now he's learning some of the other qualities that
you need to succeed at the highest level. I just
think hit the brakes on trying to rush it in
because he's gonna get his chance.
Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Eli's old team Ole miss at number three at plus
six fifty and then Alabama number four plus nine fifty
wins the last time. Yet, if I'm at the number
four slide all because of Nick Saban or because they
say they lost so many players once Nick left, I mean,
obviously they're gonna miss Nick Saban, though.
Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
I mean it Saban's the biggest factor. It is because
even though Kaitlyn de War has succeeded everywhere he's coached,
this is a completely different challenge for him, and he's
replacing the guy and that can be incredibly difficult to do.
They've still got milrow, they've still got some talent, but
they lost some talent as well, and you just have
to see how the borer is gonna come in and
(01:43:31):
how he's gonna work, because this is a different SEC,
it really is. And you know Saban got out, didn't
want the nil, didn't want to do all those kinds
of things. Not surprised. I predicted it two three years ago.
I said he's got about three more years and he'll
be out, not because he can't win anymore, but because
it's not gonna be his fun for him anymore. And
I think he's gonna be great on TV but I
mean you look at Tennessee is there now you were
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gonna see what A and M is gonna do now
that they've moved on from Jimbo Fisher. But you bring
in Texas, you bring in Oklahoma, you have what you
already had in that conference. Ole Miss is certainly not
going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
It's gonna be a root awakening for a Tennee Oklahoma
after you know, being in the Patsy Conference ad with
the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Now go to the.
Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
SEC every week is gonna be on the line for them,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's gonna be I think it's
gonna be fun to watch because I do think the
Big Twelve in the past couple of years has been
pretty good as a conference they have, It's been competitive,
it's a different kind of football it's played in the SEC,
and you were gonna see but Texas handled themselves pretty
well against Alabama a year ago.
Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
You're an SEC guy, though, so you're more excited about
watching the the U SEC than anybody else out there.
Speaker 8 (01:44:43):
Well, I don't know about anybody in the world, but no,
I meant, yeah, I'm at a fever pitch like like
anybody I'm at one hundred percent, So anybody else that
wants to join me at one hundred percent is that
one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
I can't wait for the college football season. I can't.
I want to see how all this actually plays out out,
what this looks like, because it's it just feels like
it's basically a professional sport now, and you have an
il with it, especially with the schools being able to
pay directly and not having to go through their proxies
in these collectives. You have all of that. You now
(01:45:16):
have a ruling the NCAA transfer rules are completely gone.
Now you have unlimited transfers from athletes, right, which I
think is I understand why, but I don't think that's
gonna work because I mean, how how how good are
you gonna have to treat these guys? Are they just
gonna be able to leave during the third quarter?
Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
Geez?
Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
I think we're gonna get a ratings a game that's
gonna maybe rival a bad NFL game, You know what
I'm saying That we're gonna have two teams that were like,
my goodness, welcome to the SEC or welcome to the
Big Ten with the USC or UCLA game and everybody's
gonna be tuned in and it's gonna shatter all kinds
of records. I think this is gonna be great for
(01:45:59):
college I believe everybody's pumped up in kind of a
renowned interest in seeing this.
Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
You know, yeah, I mean again, you I don't have
to be renewed to my interests. But I do like
the fact that we have a few more teams in
a playoff so that we have more stakes, more games
with stakes. At the end, it's just gonna be fun
to see how it works and what needs to be tweaked,
because I do think some of it is not going
to work, and they're going to have to figure their
(01:46:27):
way through that and hopefully they're going to make the
right decisions along the way. But it's gonna be a
really fun year for college football. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
We got some more football notes to get to. We'll
get to that, but first the final checking with Steve
the Sager, see what's trending tonight, what's going on out
there to Sega.
Speaker 7 (01:46:42):
And first things first, the NBA Finals don't start till Thursday,
but we'll finally get that underway when the Celtics host
the MAVs. Thursday night, and Game two's at Boston next
Sunday night. We mentioned the series a little bit last night,
but there's the stat that the Celtics this postseason, when
they take a double digit lead in the game, are
ten and oh in these playoffs, and the Celtics have
(01:47:03):
outscored their opponents from three point range by ten points
per game, in addition to outscoring them at the line
six points per game. Boston the one seed in the
East regular season sixty four and eighteen playoffs twelve and two.
For what it's worth, the MAVs on the road are
seven and two this postseason. Once the Celtics get on
the road, they're six and oh in the away games
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this postseason. Well, last night, Florida won the NHL's Eastern Conference,
taking Game six against the top seeded New York Rangers.
Tonight in Edmonton, the Oilers took Game six to the
West Final, eliminating top seed Dallas two to one, even
though Edmonton was outshot thirty five to ten in this game.
The Stanley Cup Finals starts Saturday at Florida. Game two
(01:47:46):
is Monday, the tenth at Florida. In the WNBA, Connecticut's
eight to oh after winning easily at Atlanta for Phoenix,
Diana Tarassi thirty one points in an easy win against
La which is two and six Indiana's two to nine.
After losing badly at New York one four to sixty eight.
Caitlin Clark had three points one of ten shooting from
the floor in Minnesota at home eighty seven to seventy six.
(01:48:08):
Winners against Dallas at the French Open by the way
no WNBA tomorrow. At the French tomorrow. Novak Djokovic men's
number one will be back at action after he won
his third rounder late last night in a five set
match that ended after three am. In Paris. Coco Goff
today won our fourth round match easily, as did number
one Egas Fiantech six love, six love in forty minutes.
(01:48:31):
Imagine having tickets to that. At College Softball's World Series
elimination game, wins tonight for Florida beating Alabama sixty four
and for Stanford, which eliminated UCLA three to one. Stanford
gets number one Texas tomorrow night. Florida Gators against number
two ranked Oklahoma tomorrow and at the NCAA Baseball Tournament,
(01:48:52):
number one Tennessee one again to advance. It was hosting
a regional this weekend. There are a few games in
college baseball tomorrow to wrap up the reach by the Way.
US Women's Open was in Lancaster, PA this weekend. It
went to Japan's Yukosaso. American Andrea Lee shot a final
round seventy five and fell to a tie for third place.
The woman who won this event took it three years
(01:49:13):
ago also, but those are her only two wins on tour.
Yukosaso turns twenty three this month, born in the Philippines.
To start today three way tie she takes at Robert
McIntyre won the men's Canadian Opened by one stroke with
his dad as his caddie. This weekend, Austin Sindrick took
the NASCAR Race at Gateway as Ryan Blaney ran out
(01:49:34):
of gas late in the race. Simone Biles won the
US Gymnastics title for a ninth time. The UFL football
regular season ended tonight. Fox TV had one in eight
Memphis hosting one in eight Houston, and the league announced
this week whoever wins this game gets the number one
draft choice next year, not the loser who finishes with
the worst record Congrats Memphis nineteen to twelve on a
(01:49:56):
touchdown with about six minutes left. Attendance was six thousand
and at DC today attendants thirteen thousand. Is Arlington won
that one thirty two thirty one. The conference finals are
next weekend. Fox TV has a game next Sunday, Saint
Louis hosting San Antonio. Last night, Saint Louis had thirty
four thousand fans as they clinched home field advantage beating
San Antonio thirteen twelve. Tonight's baseball game at Philadelphia went
(01:50:19):
to the Cardinals in ten innings, five to four over
the Phills. Next weekend, the Phillies are in London against
the Mets. Next weekend, the Yankees will be hosting the Dodgers.
Dodgers beat Colorado four nothing today, first inning homers for
Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman. Another win for Gavin Stone,
who we talked about on this show during spring training,
having a good spring. He's six and two eer two
(01:50:40):
point nine to zero for the Dodgers. Yankees won their
fifth in a row though four runs top of the
ninth to win at San Francisco seven to five, beating
closer Camillo devljan Soto had two home runs and the
save to Clay Holmes his seventeenth and Giant starting pitcher
Blake's noew left in the fifth inning looks like another
Groin entry. Seattle at Minnesota with wins. Tampa Bay won
(01:51:03):
at Baltimore four to three as the Orioles left thirteen
on base. Detroit came back for a ten inning win
at Boston eight to four. Atlanta three to one over Oakland,
holding the A's to just two hits. Brave's got a
run in the seventh run in the eighth. Rice Ellyglesias
is fifteenth save. Toronto and Texas with wins reds as well.
Washington won at Cleveland five to two, beating Carlos Carrasco
(01:51:25):
Arizona with a two run homer top of the ninth
from Kettel Martee is second of the game. They beat
the Mets five to four in New York Kansas City
with three runs bottom of the ninth, beat the Padres
four to three, and the White Sox have lost eleven
in a row. Lost at Milwaukee six three. Brewers have
won five straight. The White Sox record is now fifteen
and forty five. That's pretty good back to you.
Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
All right, thank you, Steve, you have a good week.
Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
My friend Jason Martin in for Chris play Cambarti spad
you're radio on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
On Twitter, they had that video of Aaron Rodgers sitting
down after doing some exercises, taking off his shoe and
then his sock, looking at his foot. I'm saying, is
he looking at his achilles or something something bothering him?
Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
Already?
Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
We haven't even started contact. I know he's out and about,
you know, making the rounds at events and stuff like that.
I don't buy that a quarterback just south of forty
is gonna bounce back from an injury like this, especially
in the division where Miami pretty much has it wrapped
up in. The Buffalo Bills are a damn good team. Also,
they're gonna be one two. The only thing in their
(01:52:27):
favor is the Patriots just stink and probably not even
gonna win four to five games this year. I don't
think Rogers is in for a good year. I don't
think he could bounce back, man. I don't care how
much hyahuasca or whatever it's called that he takes. I
just don't think is gonna be able to.
Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Work it out.
Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
You can't come back from an injury that easy like
he plans on doing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
Yeah, I mean at his age, we just got to see.
We're just not gonna know. They have what the Monday
night game again to open the season, right, is that right?
So they're setting it right up for you if they want.
But him, you know, taking off the shoe in the
sock and there's the camera for it. It's we saw
(01:53:09):
a lot of quarterbacks go down last year. We see
a lot of quarterbacks go down every year. He was
one of them last year. Is it gonna be one
of them this year? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
I don't know wish she goes down or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
I just you know, when you saw that that video,
if you were a Jet fan, it just about wants
to make you sick. When you see that, you're thinking, man,
could that be an injury or something? And I did
want to ask you because we didn't have a chance
to get to this yesterday, about that gold medal wrestler
that's tried out for the Bills, Steves whether they gave
Stevenson or Steveson Gabel. Steveson okay, never played any football whatsoever?
Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
Right, right?
Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
Two hundred and sixty pounds and what six feet?
Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
Yeah, I mean he's a big guy.
Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
Well that's not that big for a football, is.
Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
It, No, But I mean general population. I mean he's
a monstrous guy. But like the part of this that
I don't know you wouldn't know unless you knew, is
he was in WWE and it didn't work. He didn't
have the personality they needed when they put them on television.
(01:54:13):
They put him in a in a major live event
spot and he flopped.
Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Oh geez.
Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
He just wasn't there. He didn't have what it took.
And sometimes you do and sometimes you don't. Sometimes you'll
bring in an amateur guy like a brock Lesner and
he turns into one of the all time greats in
terms of what you were able to do from him
from a money standpoint, or you do that with a
Kurt Angle or something like that. But with Gable Steveson,
it didn't work. And I think the reason why this
(01:54:41):
has worked in the past, like you've seen some champion
wrestlers end up I think one ended up on the
Patriots years ago, and of course Brock actually went out
for the Vikings. I mean Gable Steveson might be an
incredible athlete. When you look at this from the Bills perspective,
it's probably pretty low risk because if it doesn't work,
you just move on or.
Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
The practice squad.
Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
I mean there's right, Yeah, there's so many people on
the practice squad.
Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
If he's if it doesn't work, it's not like you're
paying him a ton of money, right, You're just giving
him an opportunity to come in see what he's got.
And I've seen no harm, no foul in that. If
it doesn't work, then you won't see Gable Steveson wearing
a Bills uniform. But I just look at him, it's like, well,
good for him. It just didn't work out in WWE.
It just some guys click with it and some guys don't.
(01:55:26):
And it's hard to tell before the fact sometimes who's
got it and who doesn't in that universe, and it
just it never worked. And so I hope this one
goes better for him.
Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Yeah, I'll be keeping my eye eye on it, and
I want to see how far he goes and if
he's able to go ahead and make the team or
have to put him on the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
All right, we're gonna come back.
Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
We'll give our predictions for the NBA finals, and we
got the Stanley Cup Finals, so we'll do that and
we'll get to any finishing stories before we get out
of here. Chase and Martin for Chris Pike and Martie Spanier.
This is Fox Sports Radio, all right, Relive at the
TIREC dot Com studios. I got affect the crew. They
tell me my producer's name is Patrick Patrick. So thanks
(01:56:08):
to Patrick for whatever he did.
Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
Wow, it finally happened.
Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Well, they told me, they told me that's your name,
So I'm just going with what they're telling me. Thanks
to Eminem that's Mary Macheck, my technical director out there.
Also thanks to Jason Martin from Philading for Chris Plank.
We had to do the shows the last couple of days.
Torres had the night off yesterday. By the way, what
is it with Torres putting a picture of Warrior's vacation
(01:56:35):
but they won't tell anybody where he's at. It's obviously Hawaii.
It's not some secret destination that nobody's ever seen or
heard of, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
What what is that? Boloney?
Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Jason Torres is a unique drink of water. Yeah, he
sent me a photo because he wanted me to see
like something that had happened on draft night when he
was at his wedding or something like that. And so
the photo has got like him and his groomsmen or
whatever there, and he's like blacked out the faces of everybody.
(01:57:06):
But then in the photo, I'm like, I understand why
you do this on tighter, but what am I? What
do you me?
Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Why why are you? Why are we going full on?
Like you know, this is the courtroom and I'm the witness,
and you've got the blue dot over me? Like, I'm
not gonna do anything with the photo. Aaron, you could
just send me the original. I don't even know the guys.
Maybe I did. Maybe maybe that's what it is. Maybe
I didn't know the guys, But it's just kind of
like the only person that I actually could see the
(01:57:34):
face of in the photo that it wasn't like blacked
out was Aaron. And I was just like, I don't
know if I should be offended by this.
Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
I love that it's always like so quiet, special mission
keeping secret. I mean, first of all, you live in
La Why do you fly from the ocean to another
place so you can go to the ocean.
Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
I don't understand that that why an ocean. Well, you're
you're on the beach there.
Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
He has the same oce and you're at the beach anyway,
so what are you doing? It doesn't make any sense.
And also thanks to Seger for doing the updates, so
we always appreciate that. All right, give us a little music.
Let's get to some picks before we get out of here. Obviously,
we start with the NBA Finals, Dallas at Boston. I'm
rooting for Dallas. I've come to that realization. I want
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to see the Mavericks win. And I think the Mavericks
do win, They're gonna have to win it at home.
I think they win it in six. Too tough to
win a game seven on the road in Boston. So
and I think it's gonna be a good series. There'll
be some close games out there, so high scoring two.
I think it's like the one to fifteens or higher.
So give me the MAVs in six.
Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
See, I tend to think you're right. The Celtics. The
Celtics are the one team we've heard this now for
several months. Yeah, if they don't win the championship. It's
been a failure a season, right because it's been them
the whole year. It's been them in that conference. They
whatever you want to say, They certainly didn't get full
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strength versions of the teams that they face going into
the playoffs. They've got guys that's just like, is it
finally going to be your time to win all of
it now? Or are you're gonna find a way to
fall short again? They're running into a red hot Mavericks team.
But they're the best team, Like the Celtics are the
best team, the deepest team, they play incredible defense, They're
the best three point shooting team in the league. Seems
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like Vegas is on the side of the Boston Celtics
as well. So why is it that I find myself
thinking the same thing. You are right that this is
Lucas time and what him and Kyrie are doing and
what they've found with what they did at the trade
deadline with PJ Washington and hopefully Lively is going to
be good to go and Gafford and all these guys,
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like they're all contributing on such a high level. If
Luca's gonna shoot like that, it may just be He's
better than everybody and right now you can't stop him.
So I am so torn right now because I think
the Celtics are the better team, but I think they
might be finding the Mavericks at the wrong time. You know.
Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
I definitely like the Mavericks plus the six and a
half in Game number one, and I know the overs
two fourteen and a half, so I'll probably, like I said,
I'm gonna go with the over. And I don't think
I forgot about betting twenty to one that Kyrie might
be named the MVP. Take Dallas, Yeah, thousand and seven.
Gotta win it on the road, my friend. You gotta
win it on the road, do it. Thanks to Jason Martin,
(02:00:34):
my friend, for filling on in. I certainly appreciate that.
You know who's coming up next on Shaw Big Ben
Mallord Live from the weekend. We'll see what he's got
on his plate. All that coming up next here on
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you doing tonight, Jason Martin.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Doing pretty well? Doing pretty well? Feel like we talked
to day ago, because we actually did.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Everybody's on vacation. You know, I'm a softie. I gave
Torres a couple of saturdays off. I gave Plank tonight off.
So you and me have to hold down the fort
for a while. You know what I mean, what do
you vacation? When you go on vacated because you're you're
within driving distance of a lot of places.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, I mean, we'll drive to uh to the beach
in Florida. Generally we'll go to like thirty eight or
something like that. That's kind of where people from here
end up somewhere down there White Sands, and it's great
to go to destin Florida. We went last year, and
of course now we have the newborn, so we're probably
not gonna do anything this year. But yeah, it's generally
(01:14):
just something like the beach, although I think, you know,
as our children get older, who want to start traveling
a little bit more, maybe getting overseas and things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Look, you, we definitely want to do that. How far
is it my car to the beach from where you're.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
At It's eight hours something.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh geez, I can't do that. That's too far for me.
I can't be driving. I wanted to go down to
the Carolinas. It's so hard to fly from any place
outside of Vermont. You know, you have to take like
two or three flights. It takes all day to get
out of here and and all day to get back
in here.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So I'm just I'm going down the Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I think it might be a little too oiity toity
for me that you know, that doesn't sound like my
cup of tea, But it's my it's my wife's birthday,
So I'm just gonna I'm just going with the flow,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, you know you don't have to live in Vermont.
There would be. There are other places you could live.
I mean maybe you dig the ice cream. Yeah, I
used to. I used to be a really really big
fish music fan. And you know, obviously they're from Burlington
and in that area. But I mean, you know, Bernie
Sanders is there, you can leave.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You'd be surprised, you'd be surprised where they put you
when you do witness relocation. I'm telling you right now, right,
we got a lot to get to coming up in
about fifteen minutes from now. Mark Medda is gonna stop by.
Got a lot of NBA to get to. Todd Furman
an hour number two. Of course, the Seger also stops
by an hour number two. We'll give our picks coming
(02:37):
up in the Power hour of the show. Of course.
Always we love to use Twitter or x whatever you
want to call it. You can get a hold of
us at j Mart Radio. I'm of course at Stinking
Genius One. Get a lot of calls or a lot
of tweets in this slot, so we'll try to get
to some of them, Jason a little bit later on.
So try to keep up with everybody because they usually
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send us a lot of tweets when a lot's going
on a few things are going on.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
When we talked last night, and the first thing we
mentioned was about the NBA and the big you know
time between the end of the Eastern and Western Conference
Finals and the start of the NBA Finals. One team
had the way ten days, one team had the wait
seven days. We're talking about hasn't lost its loster? Has
it lost its.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Steam a little bit?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And yesterday I said, yeah, lost in steam, has lost
its loster. But I'm gonna deal with it now twenty
four hours later. Maybe it's because the first game usually
starts on a Sunday, or we usually get a you know,
an NBA Finals game, but a Sunday. We never go
through a Sunday without a game unless the Finals is done.
I'm really I was lost today. I'm like, gosh, man,
(03:46):
it feels like forever now and it was just twenty
four hours Jason. But when you miss a Sunday in
the rotation, it feels like you've missed a month of
action or something like that. I feel like I haven't
seen a basketball game in a month something.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It really is bad.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Maybe I'm overreacting because we were just on the air
unless did twenty four twenty four hours ago, but it
just feels now longer because here we are on Sunday night.
We got nothing. We had no no games, no Eastern
Western NBA Finals, we had nothing out there.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Jason, Yeah, I mean I can understand where you're coming from,
because I mean the NBA Finals usually start on a
Thursday or a Sunday, right, and just considering the lack
of a plus level kind of content for the vast
majority of sports fans, like you didn't have a huge
golf tournament, you didn't have like Marquete baseball matchups this
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early in the season. Nothing really stands out like that.
And then of course you've got the College World Series,
and you've got what's happened with Super Regionals and everything
else in college baseball, and you've got the NHL Playoffs.
But generally it almost feels like a missed opportunity for
the NBA because you could have owned today.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh big time.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You completely could have owned it. You could have owned
the lead up to it, you could have put it
in primetime and there'd been nothing really to challenge it.
And instead we're waiting until Thursday, And it does feel
like this is a night you should have been playing
if you're the NBA, because the stage belonged to you.
We're still going to be there on Thursday, but it
is a long time off, and to miss a day
(05:19):
like this where the schedule felt awfully light outside of
what you were doing, that that just seems like that
was a missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You know, I think I brought this up to you yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
There was a time where we said, if one of
the finals ended in a four game sweep, we're going
to start the finals on this day. If it goes
five or six or seven games, we're going to start
the finals on that day. Am I mis remembering that, Jason?
Or is that the way we used to do it?
And that way we always ensured that there wasn't such
a big laps. So the seger told us, just you know,
(05:49):
this is the second or third time something like this
this happens.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So yeah, I remember, I remember ranting about this on
an annual basis that it feels like forever between the
end of the conference finals and the start of the
Championship round, the actual NBA finals, because they set that
date in advance, and it doesn't matter how things are
playing out. Now what you're saying may have been true,
but at least in recent years, this is kind of
(06:13):
where they've gone. So you've got these nine day, ten day,
eleven day layoffs and because of the rhythm that you
get in and I imagine for the teams especially, and
I suggested to you last night, I felt like this
might really hurt Dallas because they've just been firing on
all cylinders and for them to then have to step away,
even if it does give them a chance to recharge
their batteries, I feel like that benefits the Celtics a
(06:35):
lot more than it does the Mavericks because of the
style of play. I feel like Boston can get back
up to speed and Dallas. Dallas has been going one
hundred and fifty miles an hour and now they're in
pit lane, and so you hope that they're able to
get back out and not lose any positions on the
track because they come out rusty. This is not a
team in Boston that you can afford to do that against,
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because they can really just coast that they can their
their level of play, their baseline is good enough to
hold you off because of their defense.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Now remember now, the first two games in Boston anyway,
all they're looking is for this split, not like you're
gonna It's not like you're just going to give up
on game one anyway, but you know you'll get up
the speed after the first what six minutes or maybe
the first quarter, and then you know you'll get your
legs on the you or something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
My thing is this I again.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I maybe it's because of the long time time off
or something. Everybody's talking about how excited they are about
this matchup, and they're talking about Luca and Kyrie, talking
about Tatum and Jalen Brown.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Maybe it has to start for me to get into it.
I'm just not I'm ten years ago. This would have
been phenomenal twenty years ago anything with the Celtics into it.
It wouldn't make a difference who they were playing. I'm watching,
you know what I mean. I'm watching an hour before
I end, and we're rooting against the Celtics were rooting
against Boston.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It doesn't feel like it has that same feeling in
twenty twenty four, but everybody seems to be excited about it.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Maybe I'm on the in the minority on this one, Jason.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I mean, I think the matchup is pretty juicy. I
will say a lot of it. For me, the biggest
storyline is this is supposed to be Boston's time because
they've knocked on the door before. Here they are, they've
been in this situation. Now's the time where you take
that final step and you win. But is someone they
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are going to spoil the party and stop them from
getting there? And if it happens, are they ever gonna
have another chance in Boston to do this again? Are
they ever going to have a better look at it
than they do right now? With teams in the East
getting a little bit better and everybody in the West
continuing to reload. If Dallas jumps that, like, Dallas is
not supposed to be here yet. This is not this.
(08:51):
This doesn't make sense really, everything that was not who
people had going into the postseason. This is supposed to
be Boston's time if you were just writing it from
like a logical, rational point of view. But sports isn't
logical irrational, and so you bring a Luca who's red
hot at the right time, just making incredible shots, difficult
shots impossible to guard, and then you've got Kyrie playing
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at this kind of level, maybe Boston's not going to
have a time. So I do think that makes it interesting.
And the Celtics are just polarizing in general. It's like
you either like them or you don't. I don't think
most people are milk toast about them. However, there is
still that narrative out there, and Torres and I have
talked about this repeatedly. They do kind of bore me.
(09:37):
The Celtics kind of bore me.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Like they just Playedio Spurs.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, kind of kind of. I don't know what it is,
but they're just times when I'm not as enthused watching
them as I am.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
A bunch of both teams in that shoots a lot
of three pointers. That's kind of surprising because that's what
people want nowadays, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Not what I want. No, I still think it's way
too much. Yeah, they shoot more and and they have
a but then they're the best three point shooting team
in the league. And so I mean, I understand why
you would shoot it, because the math would tell you
three is bigger than two. I mean, I was not
good in maths. While I'm sitting here talking to you tonight,
but I do understand three is a bigger number than two,
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but I don't know, like exactly how to quantify it.
They don't do anything wrong. There's just not anything particularly
flashy about them in the way that some of these
other teams are. So I do think they don't have
maybe they have a little bit of Patriots in them,
because a lot of times the Patriots weren't flashy either.
You know how you think about Boston teams, they're just
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kind of like a almost like a dull run. It's
almost like a dullness. It's not a sharp edged knife.
It's kind of a dull edged knife with the Celtics,
like a butter knife.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
But by the way, if you want to get in,
like I said, Twitter, we'll use that later on J
Martin Radio. I'm its thinking genius one. You know, all
the storylines that we would have had about ten or
twenty years ago, I don't feel like we have this
time around. Like what we talked about is Ky yesterday
a little bit is he's still hated like he was.
(11:04):
I don't know whether the three, four, five year ago,
how about one year ago, one year ago? You're right
about that. My answer is no, he's he's not nearly
as hated as he was. And you say one year,
I'll go back to three. I think it was pretty
bad about two three years ago, that year in Brooklyn
or whatever it was. But he doesn't feel like you
(11:26):
still have that same hatred for Kyrie out there like
he did that those years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean I think that.
The reasons I say one year is because when he
got moved to when he went to Dallas, a lot
of people, maybe even me included, we're just kind of like,
can't wait to watch this blow up because this is
what Kyrie does. He kills teams. Why would you want
that guy? I think that's completely shifted. I love watching
him play because he's just doing the thing that we know.
(11:52):
He's one of the best to ever do, one of
the most talented, just purely talented basketball players you've ever
seen anybody's ever and he's right now completely bought in.
He is playing that leadership role and at the same
time he understands it's Luka Doncicic's team and he's not
trying to take it away from him. He's just doing
everything he can to help Luca win a championship and
(12:14):
by the same time win one himself. So I was
thinking about it again today, Arnie. I cannot recall in
team sports a comeback like this where you have seen
somebody completely turn around how he's perceived. Right, this redemption
arc is one of the best that I have ever seen,
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and I am here for it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Right And that's why I wanted to bring up hatred,
because we don't hate Kyrie as much as we did.
As you say last year, I'm saying two, three, four
years ago, which brings me to my next thing is
you know back in the eighties, which is I know
a million years ago, we used to hate the Boston Celtics.
I mean remember when they used to play the Lakers
that the crowd would be chanting a black Gala.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
The rivaly was so much out there.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We still hate the Dallas Cowboys from the seventies, in
the eighties and the nineties all the way till now,
but we don't hate the Celtics like we did back then.
Why why why do we still hate the Cowboys but
we don't hate the Celtics like that anymore?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Are or do we hate the Celtics like?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I don't think that's no, I don't think it's even comparable. No,
the way you're saying, I certainly don't think that Boston,
the Celtics franchise now is looked at the way the
Cowboys are. I think that maybe the biggest reason for
that is the Jerry Jones effect a little bit different
from Brad Stevens. But you also just again, what did
(13:41):
I say, they're kind of like a butter knife. Nobody's
ever gonna say that about Dallas. Dallas is never boring,
but you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Never thought you'd say that about the Celtics, right, I
mean that's the Celtics. The Lakers teams like they're iconic
teams like that.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Jason, I mean I think that the Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett,
Ray Allen. I think they were hated, yes, because larn
Pierce was Paul Pierce was very much to take it
or leave it kind of player, and Guardnet could could
really wear out your wear out your emotions at some
point where you just had enough. Uh, These guys like
(14:15):
there's not really any reason to dislike Jason Tatum, There's
not any reason to dislike Jaylen Brown. There's not any reason.
Like what they do on the floor, they're history onics
anything like that, very muted. They're pretty just normal basketball
players that are really good. There's not and maybe that's
part of it, Like they don't have the tabloid factor
(14:35):
going outside of Jason Tatum being a little bit too
much Kobe worship earlier and Jaylen Brown saying some some
stuff off the court that I completely disagreed with and
a lot of the country disagreed with, but it was certainly,
you know, his prerogative to to put that out there.
But generally, like, there's not those personalities don't exist on
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this team. I mean even back like remember like Brian Scalabrini,
these guys, like they were just polarizing figures. There were
just people on the team that you either liked or
just couldn't stand to look at. And this Boston team
doesn't really have that, Like who's the most, who's the
most Who's the guy on the team that is the
easiest to dislike if you're not a Boston fan.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It used to be Mark Smart, but it used to
be Mark and Smart, but he's not on the team anymore.
So I could see people hating him before. But I
didn't say Boston team. I said Celtics. I was gonna
ask you, is the city of Boston still hated because
you know, it was that whole East coast West coast
thing with LA and Boston and the Red Sox, the Patriots,
(15:38):
the Bruins, you know, the Celtics. People hated everything about Boston,
you know.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, And I think the change is just they haven't
won anything in a while. It's hard to hate a
city when they don't have a bunch of champions, like
the Ruins have been good, but hockey is hockey, right,
The Celtics have knocked on the door and gotten beat
and so you've been able to jeer out them.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Are you forgetting about the Patriots long there?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
As soon as Brady left the Patriots. The Patriots are
just a punching bag right right right, And so we'll
see what's gonna happen under Mayo's regime and starting things
over there. And then the Red Sox haven't been relevant
in a couple of years either. So you look at
all of that, there's not really any reason to hate
on Boston because they do it to themselves, like there's
not you have to be good to make me, I
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think right now, they're not good enough. Their franchises are
not good enough across the board to bring that level
of vitriol out of people.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You know, Philly has a one all heck of a lot,
but we hate the Philly fans.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know, we'll get it.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
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a talk show host. He was filling in this last weekend.
Our buddy, Mark Medena.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
How you doing Mark, I'm doing well. Hey, just trying
to follow your guys.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Lady, big time.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Talk show hosts.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Tell you, first of all, covering the NBA, how much
of this is a nuisance to you with the long
like ten days rest and stuff. I mean, we know
that we feel like it's lost momentum as a fan
and as a viewer, But what about a guy that
actually covers the NBA.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
What do you do with such a long layoff?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Well, I always just roll with the punches. Whether there's
too many games at once or too much going on,
you get through that, and then when there's a lull
in the action, you just try to chip away at
long term stuff. So you know, you mentioned the co
hosting yesterday, that's one of the examples of just trying
trying to fill the time and still be a value.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Mark matchups in seven game series it usually come down
to that. You look at Denver, they didn't match up
well with Minnesota at all and ended up not making it.
I think Denver probably would have beaten Dallas, but they
never had that opportunity. So looking at the matchup with
the Mavericks and the Celtics, who do you feel like
is in a better, more advantageous position.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Yeah, it's really fascinating because I personally think that Dallas
is in a better position because they've been playing better basketball.
And then the other thing is there's an unknown on
when or if Chris Porzingis is going to come back
in the series. But I did talk to a few
assistant coaches over the weekend and both of them favor
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the Boston Celtics because they feel like even with or
without Porzingis, they have such great offensive chemistry right now
with Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, they have a deep supporting
cast of Drew Holliday and Derek White, and their defense
is exceptional that they feel like a it can overcome
any limitations up Worzingis will have, or if he's not
(20:02):
even in the lineup. And then secondly, they both downplayed
the concern that some have about, hey, Boston hasn't played
its best basketball, hasn't been challenged enough. They feel like,
you know, once start at the NBA Finals and they
play against the caliber opponent of Dallas, that they'll be
forced to elevate their game. But look, you can't discount
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the fact that Luka Doctrich and Kyrie Irving have been
playing their best basketball ever in their career. Their chemistry
is really great and they have a great supporting cast.
So what I'm getting at here, guys is you can
really flip a coin for either team. But regardless, I
think it's going to go full seven games.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Can you imagine if it was Dallas We're talking about
this earlier, if it was Dallas and Boston forty years ago,
then twenty years ago, compared to now twelve years ago.
I mean, can you imagine back in the like the
Larry Bird era, we have so much hatred for the Celtics,
we'd be like foaming at.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
The mouth for this type of matchup.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I don't know, it just feels like we just don't
hate this Celtics anymore. They don't have that hatred like
they did back in the eighties.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
You know what I mean, Mark, Yeah, I mean back
in the eighties it was always Lakers Celtics. So now
it's been, you know, no repeat champions ever since the
Golden State Warriors dynasty with Kevin Durant. I think the
other thing is that while I think a lot of
the showtime Lakers and people within the Laker organization are
feeling a lot of angst that if the Celtics win
(21:27):
this upcoming finals that propels them to having the most
titles out of any NBA team over them. But really
I think it's just the showtime guys, Like I think
the current Lakers. Yes, they wish they could still be
in the hount, they still wish they could be winning
a championship, But I don't think the fact that the
Celics are in the finals, or the fact that they
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could exceed them in the organization ring count total really
resonates among the current players.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Mark, do you feel like at all kind of watching this?
It didn't I didn't see Dallas. I didn't see this
being the finals before it started. Do you think it's
fair to look at it and just say, man, it
feels like they jumped the line. They found their way
into the finals. And you look at Luka Doncic right
now and you're hearing people say he's the best player
in the world if they win the championship. Do you
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think that's fair? Like, maybe there's two questions here, but
that Luca question sticks out big because I don't know
if I can get there, but right now he's certainly
the hottest player if nothing else.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, An, I'll pack at one by one. As far
as whether the MAVs jumped the line, Yes, they jumped
the line. That's because they dramatically change their team with
the trade deadline. Yes, it starts as Luca and Kyrie,
but it also helps when they have a supporting cast
and PJ. Washington and Daniel gafferd have been game changers
for different reasons. PJ two way player on the wing,
(22:49):
Gafford Real give great defensive compliment to Derek Lively the second.
But I think to your broader point, even going to
the playoffs, I thought it could go either way with
Dallas and the Clippers. To his clear Kawhi Leonard wasn't
going to be one hundred percent. I favored Dallas, but
I still favored Oklahoma City in that second round matchup.
But once Dallas beat Oklahoma City, I thought all bets
(23:11):
are off. They could beat Minnesota and they've simply just
risen their game to another level. As to your second
question with Luka Doncic, yes, he is the best player
in the world right now. I thought that Nikole Jokish
was deserving of that MPP award. We have to keep
in mind that's a regular season award. In this playoffs,
Luka Doncic has been playing his absolute best, and I
(23:34):
think you can make an argument right now that Kyrie
Irving has been second. They've been that great, both individually
as well as a duo.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You know, Mark, you know, people say, oh, take away
in the Lakers championship, that was a bubble. That doesn't
get that's a bubble it come out. Yes, Well, can
we say the same thing about the Celtics? No, Butler, no, Donovan, Mitchell, Nohlliburton.
Can we say we look how easy it was for.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Them or what? No?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
No, no, no. I mean look, part of the name
of the game is that sports and sports is that
injuries happen and you have to deal with the hand
that you're Dell. I'm not going to fault or penalize
or put an asterisk to a Celtics title just saying
that they had a relatively better path to the finals
than Dallas did because their opponents weren't fully one hundred percent.
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What I think does bring some valid concerns, though, is
because they didn't play teams at full strength, Boston hasn't
been fully challenged as much as Dallas, and will that
ultimately affect their play. I have question marks about it.
I know several other people do now. In fairness to
those two assistants that I mentioned, they downplayed that only
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because they feel like, for better and for worse, the
Celtics play their game to their opponent, and because Dallas
is a better opponent, they'll elevate their game. But no,
to your original point, You can't penalize teams for facing
the teams in front of them. That's what you're supposed
to do.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So one more and well, you mentioned the team that's
not playing in right now. But I'm just going to
throw two words to you and let you talk because
I think there's a number of different places you can
go here. Bronnie James, what are your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
My thoughts are that he's going to be drafted by
the Lakers at number fifty five, But there's a few
things here. The Lakers aren't going to be trading up
in the draft just to get them higher in the
second round. I don't think and you guys might not
believe me here, but I don't think the Lakers are
making this move to play Kate Lebron James. Yes, it helps,
(25:33):
but it's a topping on a Sunday. It's not the
Sunday itself, because regardless of whether they pick Brownie or not,
I don't see Lebron James going anywhere. He's technically going
to be a free agent by opting out of his
current player option, but that's just to negotiate a longer
deal with the Lakers, and that's going to happen, So
Bronnie James, he's not a game changer. Some talent evaluators
(25:57):
think that he's improved his defense, he's improved his shooting,
but he's not elite in any of those categories or
really anything else. He's just a solid player. But again,
the Lakers had the fifty foot pick. There's not as
much risk with that because he's probably not going to
have a bigger role. Now, that's not going to say
there's not going to be issues. You're playing with your father.
(26:17):
That could could create a cool moment, but it could
also create some awkward locker room dynamics. But that's how
I see things play out with Brawny.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Mark Medeen everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Of course, five sports radios NBA inside are also part
time talk show hosts now so we can Mark enjoy it.
My friend will certainly always love having you on. We'll
do it again as we get closer to those finals
in about a month or two from now.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Yeah, I appreciate you guys, if you don't mind me
giving a quick chatty late TJ. Seimer's unfortunately we lost
the former Alla Times calumnist. Great guy. Some people didn't
like him because of how abrasive.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
He was.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Some people loved him because he wasn't afraid to ask
the tough questions. But hope he and his family can
get through tough time.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Absolutely amen to that. Thank you, Mark, I certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I take care Mark Medina everybody. Of course, as a
matter of fact, let's see what's trending. We go to
our buddy, Steve the Sager, and Steve, that's exactly what
I was about to tell you.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Steve TJ.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Seimers, Yeah, passed away at the age of seventy three.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I put it back out on my Twitter. I don't
know if you heard that.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I was going to tell you earlier, but I'm like,
I'll just mention to you when you're doing the updates.
That was quite a surprise. I guess he was battling
a brain tumor. I guess, but I remember back in
the days when I was doing LA Radio, he was
right there, front and center of things, and.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh he was polarizing.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
His articles was must read, Steve must read every time.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
He joined the La Times nineteen ninety. It was his
longtime editor Bill Dwyer that made the announcement tonight. If
you can ever see I remember TJ. Simers in a
very positive light for the night he had when for
a charity he hosted an evening with John Wooden and
Vince Gully. Can you imagine an hour, hour and a
half of a round table with just those guys on
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the stage. There is video of it out there. The
La Times had fired Simers about a decade ago, and
he sued the paper for age discrimination and.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Won a boatload of money.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And then Jay Simers I think was on the initial
around the horn Brough.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yes, yes, years well, yeah, they got rid of him
when he said he was embarrassed to be on the show, that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He might not be wrong.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
That is so appropriate that he would say something. By
the way, the guys that are not on our show
this weekend we mentioned Aaron Torres was off last night.
Mister yukon and busy for Oklahoma softball these days, so
Chris Blank not on tonight. Their baseball teams are playing
each other right now. Are Connecticut and Oklahoma are tied
(28:55):
in the NCAA Region three to three in the eighth inning.
If ok Ploma loses at home tonight, they are out
just for the.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Rector Pike will be really crabby.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Oklahoma softball is number two in the country defending champs.
They get Florida tomorrow. As Florida eliminated Alabama six to
four today and then Stanford eliminated UCLA three to one.
Stanford versus number one Texas tomorrow night. By the way,
as far as NCAA baseball, number one Tennessee one again
too advanced. It was hosting a regional this weekend. Oregon
(29:25):
State was hosting a regional this weekend, but due to rain,
their game against UC Irvine today was suspended in the
fourth inning. It will resume Monday at noon Pacific with
Oregon State. By the way, we did have a PAC
twelve matchup tonight with that Stanford beating UCLA, I assume
that's the last PAC twelve matchup. It's not a PAC
twelve sanctioned game. It wasn't the conference tournament that was
(29:47):
the national but interesting that we had that and they
won't be a conference opponents. Course, Stanford and call Or
going to acc UCLA, usc are going to Big ten
in the WNBA. Connecticut's eight and oh after winning easily
at Atlanta and at New York tonight, the Liberty seven
and two beat a two to nine Indiana Fever team
one four to sixty eight rookie Caitlin Clark one of
(30:11):
ten shooting from the floor. The NBA Finals don't start
until Thursday. Celtics host the MAVs then and next Sunday
night is Game two at Boston. The Stanley Cup Finals
starts Saturday, with Game two on Monday, the tenth. We
know the matchup now. Florida won the Eastern Conference last night.
Edmonton took the West Final in Game six tonight, eliminating
(30:32):
top seed Dallas two to one, even though the Oilers
were out shot thirty five to ten ten shots and
still winning a playoffs ties a.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Record that's insane.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
It is insane, man, much less a clinching game with
only ten shots at home and.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Mike he could play faced shot.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Maybe they maybe they wouldn't have won two to one.
Robert McIntyre won the Canadian Opened by one stroke with
his dad as his caddy in an emergency this weekend.
What a story.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
What do you know not to bring is what happened
to the golfer? That is, caddy got hurt. So some
guy from the from the.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Gowris that was also, yes.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, it's not just was like big husky guy.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I did see the article, just the photo of the
guy they cut to filling. It's kind of like one
of those stories where they don't have a backup goalie, right,
And so that has happened where somebody who's not on
an NHL roster gets to actually get in a NHL game.
Austin Sindrick won the NASCAR Race. Simone Biles took the
US Gymnastics title. Baseball at Philadelphia Saint Louis in ten innings,
(31:35):
beat the Phils five to four. Next weekend, the Phillies
are in London against the Mets. The Mets did you
know a typical Mets thing that they've been doing for
a few weeks now, giving up a homer in the
nines to lose five to four to Arizona. Kansas City
with three runs bottom of the ninth beat the Padres
four to three, and the Yankees had four runs top
of the ninth to win at San Francisco again seven
(31:56):
to five. Yankees have won five straight. Coming up Saturday
night on Fox TV, the Yankees host the Dodgers. Dodgers
shut out Colorado four Nathan back to you.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
All right, thanks, so Steve appreciate that live at the
tyrack dot com studios. Of course, Jason Martin did for
Chris Plan, Camartie Spanier, t J.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Simmons.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I just wanted to say that finishing that up. Look,
he really did rub people the wrong way. But his articles,
as I mentioned, must read. I was in LA when
he was like a big figure here. It was just,
you know, he was just very polarizing, and I thought
he was a good guy. I don't think I've ever
(32:34):
had any problems with him or he mixes with him,
but certainly some people did. But he I'm surprised you
ever heard of him, Jason, because you were not an
LA guy, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
No. But again, I mean I certainly remember around the
Horn because.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I was, oh, that's right, PTI honk.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But past that, when you're in sports media long enough,
you get to know some of this stuff, and you
talk to people and you find out things about history.
So there's his names that you hear, J. Marriotti and
oh yeah, and the guys that were on TV of course,
but also some of the other guys and Symer's because
he had this aura about him and there was such
(33:09):
a love it or hate it kind of thing. I
heard a lot about him as a matter of fact,
and you know, I remember that when Steve mentioned I
remember the lawsuit. I remember him being fired in the
age discrimination lawsuit and then reading like comments from people
he's getting what he deserves, what a scumbag, like all
sorts of stuff like, I mean, people came for his neck, right,
(33:30):
But I think he's kind of a bit of a
dying breed. Love him or hate him, like, you just
don't get that in media anymore, especially in print media.
Everybody has these relationships with various people, and as such
you can tell reading the article, you know who they're
in favor of who they're not, and also maybe who
they talk to and who they don't and things like that.
(33:52):
Maybe you get more information now, but some of that
personality on the page, it just it just doesn't exist
the same way. That's some great writers now, but it's
just a different it's a different climate.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And I think he used to write about the media also,
did he not. I think he was probably did, yeah, well,
because he used to write an article and it would
be like little bits and pieces, you know, just like
different paragraphs and it could be about anything, it didn't
have to be all one topic. And he would just
sometimes take shots of people in the media also, So
that's why I always read, I'm like, oh, wait for
(34:22):
him to take a shot at me, you know what
I mean, Jason, It's got to be coming soon.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So maybe during the break, I'm gonna look up Awful t. J.
Simer's college because I'm sure some people have some and
just see like some of the stuff that he was
writing really back in his heyday when he was firing
on all cylinders.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
All right, when we come back, though, you know, we
talk so much about the game and the NBA and
stuff like that. What about the pregame? What's gonna happen
with the TNT, what's gonna happen to Ernie and Shack?
It's so hard for me and Kenny really all right, well,
I can't wait to hear that. We'll get to that
coming up next right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2 (35:08):
All right, could you think everyone Jason Martin is for
Chris Planko Arnie Spaniel live at the Tirack dot Com
studios on this Sunday night. We talk so much about
the NBA and the games, Jason, But what about the
pregame show, the one that everybody loves. What's gonna happen
to Ernie and Charles and Kenny and Shack? Are they
(35:28):
all gonna be together again? Are they gonna go their
separate ways? Is the show just gonna be over and
they're not gonna do anything? Or are they gonna go
to Fox ESPN? Are you gonna miss the show? Or
are we gonna get over it? Are you you seem
you had seem to be bothered by this?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
This is I care more about this? Do the finals.
I can't imagine the NBA without TNT, right, I can't
imagine it without Turner. I can't imagine it without the
greatest pregame and postgame show that's actually better than the
games ninety five percent of the time. I don't DVR
the NBA on Thursday nights, but I've had a standing
DVR of Inside the NBA on both T and T
(36:08):
and on NBA TV for over probably for over a decade.
And the reason why I do it on both is
because I might miss part games long on TNT and
I want to be able to watch the entire inside
d NBA, and so that's been the idea that that
show might not exist is incredible, especially when you watch
(36:29):
the ESPN broadcast, and with all due respect to everybody involved,
it's just not even close. It's not on the same level.
They rush through it, they have their takes. Steven A
is an acquired taste that I still haven't acquired, and
it just it's not the same, and you can The
thing is they can go do this for somebody else,
(36:52):
and maybe they would. You've heard Barkley say, you know,
I'm a free agent if we leave, and Barkley is
sort of still Barkley's the one indispensable piece, even though
I'm a big time Kenny Smith fan and have been forever,
and I I've grown to like shack More. I didn't
like him when he first came on. I didn't think
that he was as necessary as some people did, but
(37:13):
I've enjoyed how he's grown with the show and become
one with it. I the problem is, if you don't
get Ernie, it's still not the same because Ernie is
the perfect guy that just kind of stands in the middle,
who can cut up when necessary but bring it back
when necessary. It's a unique talent that almost nobody has.
Just completely different, and he's not gonna leave because his
(37:35):
entire family was built at turns everything he's ever known
exists there.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
And they're gonna have to split up.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I think if they want to continue, they're gonna have
to split up at least, I think.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, And I just I don't want to see that
without Ernie Johnson either. It's just not the same. And
Ernie will be doing baseball with TBS and he'll be
associated with everything that they're doing as he always has been.
But man, I'm a I'm as big an Ernie Johnson
junior fan as you will find, and just everything about
the guy, it's it's hard to knock him on anything
(38:05):
about his life and how he goes about it and
how he conducts himself, and how he loves people, and
how he has put these guys in a position over
and over again to just shine. And there's just not
going to be a replacement for him. So I don't
even want to talk about the idea that Warner would
let them go. But Zaslov and the guys associated over there,
(38:28):
they just seem to be hemorrhaging money left and right,
making all sorts of decisions, almost like they want to
bankrupt the thing so that they can sell it off.
And I will say this, they don't want to pay
as much for the NBA because and Disager can tell
us this when he comes on Next Hour, right, and
he has told us this many times in the past.
(38:48):
The ratings aren't that great, like they're not necessarily yet. Well, no,
I'm talking about the games, the NBA itself, the games
on Thursday nights. Those ratings are not like Gangbusters. It
used to be. What do you know TNT for except
the NBA. Well I knew it for WCW and now
I know it for ADW. But they've had a few
original series and they've had some other things. They'll be
(39:11):
able to find other content. The NBA is not the
indispensable content that maybe it once was. And if somebody
wants to go overpay for it, then I can see
a company that's not doing particularly well, where Max has
sort of failed as a streaming service, Like there's just
there's a lot of different factors that go into this particular.
(39:31):
The ardship point is just they can't look that we
cannot afford as a sports viewing public not to have
that group of guys doing what they do.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Can you still have the show on TNT, even though
TNT might not.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Have the NBA because like, no, you can't.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Well, ESPNA is like a pregame show, but they're not
carrying the NFL games at the one o'clock but they're
doing a pregame show.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, but they're not a sports network though, Like I mean,
ESPN's a sports network and TNT is not. The thing
that I'm fascinated by is so much of NBA TV's
content and as Turner guys, it's all these same guys
that work for Turner. If they have their B team
guys that do the alt cast, they'll have Ernie, they'll
have Matt Winer, they'll have some of the guys that
have been associated with Turner for a long time because
(40:12):
of their partnership with the NBA. I don't what does
NBA TV become if all of that happens, Like there's
just a lot of things that need to be figured out.
But I'm just hoping that somehow we don't lose that show.
I cannot I cannot abide this at all.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
All right, it was like losing the Sopranos our one
in the Bucks. Wow, that just flew on by Todd
Ferban not gonna join us. I gave him the day off.
So we're gonna plenty of time for your tweets. We're
gonna come back, get into the NBA. What are the
Lakers going to get a coach? If they do get
JJ Reddick, does that mean they get lebron back? Does
(40:50):
that mean they get Bronny? All that coming up next year?
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You know that, don't you. So do you have like
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Oh yes, yes, I do know the little things you
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I just learned that the last couple of months. But no,
I I don't get into the whole duck thing. I
I haven't pushed it that far yet so now, yeah,
not yet. But I do like my jeep, I'm gonna
get some big old tires for it. By the way,
you ever get you know when somebody says, what celebrity
do you look like?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Or something like that.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I used to get this, like probably more when I
had hair that I used to look like Kevin James,
the guy.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
From King of Queens. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I don't know. You know, if you remember, obviously you
do the way.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
You're allowed to do. I remember Kevin James.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, yeah, Well the only reason I bring him up
one because people said I used to look like him too.
He's gonna play John Daily in the movie about John Daily.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I think that's that's a good that's a good setup. There.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I think he looks a little bit like Daily. I
think that kind of works out there, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, I think it works. And look, Kevin James is
he is I've always heard one of the nicest guys
in Hollywood. Yeah, just a really down to earth guy
who's easy to root for. King of Queens and like
a lot of the stuff that he's done, just not
interested like Paul Blart, Mall Coop and some of that
kind of stuff. Like it's it's not my style, but
(43:02):
I do think that it's important to have, you know,
family friendly guys that aren't here, aren't out here doing
awful stuff all the time. So him playing John Daly,
if you like Kevin James, it's gonna be Kevin James
playing John Daily. Like. It's just that he has kind
of you know what Kevin James is gonna give you,
and he'll deliver it in spades. It'll probably it'll probably
(43:23):
be fairly entertaining. He'll certainly give it the best that
he can.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Oh absolutely, I mean, I'll go ahead and see it.
I'm looking forward to you know, I'm a little bit
into the Hollywood scene. This company that wants to sign
me wants to send me out for an audition for
the new movie or that's gonna be filmed called Dexter.
I don't know if you've ever seen the TV show Dexter. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So they want me to go out for that.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:46):
To be what corpse?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I don't know, Probably to get killed somewhere somewhere, gruesome.
I've done a bunch of movies and TV shows, so
I was thinking of getting back in it. You know,
I'm a pretty good looking guy, so uh, thinking about
doing something like that.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I'm gonna google you now because I've had a vision
of you for years. I'm pretty sure I remember how
you look.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
But maybe I believe me.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I got a faith for our producers, Like, yeah, you're
you know you were made for this, built for this
to be behind away from the TV.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Could see it. You you you.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Had a time, yeah, a time when I had hair.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
People say it looked like a mix between like Jay
Leno and Jerry Cooney. But that's going way back there.
That's that's way back out there, my friends. So but uh, yeah,
that's a long time ago. We got a lot of
tweets to get to so if you want to be
part of the show J Martin Radio, I'm mistinking genius one.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Watch our listeners are gonna be said again.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, I look like this guy, and I look like
this guy, and I look like that guy.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I've always gotten the same one. Oh wait, I'm sorry,
I thought it was Jared Goffer.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
From from the hips to the neck right right, especially
that part out there no.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
People to my feet looked like Ryan Gossler's feet. Maybe
that's probably about That's probably about the only only comparison.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I did a I did a commercial with the late
Norm McDonald.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Oh, I didn't get I don't want to mislead everybody.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I didn't get to meet him.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
We were just in the same commercial and I got
to play you ever. You know Carls Junior, the Star,
the little mascot, the Star. He was the voice yeah
he yes, he was the voice of the Star. And
I was voice of Chucky the stunt star. So the
easiest money ever made in my life chasing you know, seriously,
(45:43):
I'm not kidding around. All I had to say was
like three words. All I had to do was go,
oh thanks, Star. I got five thousand dollars to do
the initial and then every time it was a national
commercial of course, like you mentioned Carls Junior Harty's, every
time it ran, I would get residual checks. So for
(46:05):
about six to eight months, I would get about two
hundred to two hundred and fifty checks from all these
cities all over, and the checks would be anywhere between
like twenty five dollars and two hundred and fifty dollars.
And you're getting like a couple of hundred checks per month.
Think about that for a second. How great of a
gig is that?
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (46:23):
You liked?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
My wife was racing to the mailbox at the end
of every month and see what checks we were getting.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Wait a second, I just googled, So I did google you, right,
so that we could continue along these lines. Yeah, you
were on the Newlywed Game. Yes, I found the video.
The video is on YouTube with the entire episode.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yes, we have it on YouTube. I was on the
Newlywed Game. That was a blast. I'll go ahead and
ruin the ending for everybody. We won, of course we won,
and boy, that that was a blast.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
My wife wanted to change one of the questions her answer,
and we weren't in the same room. They told they said, Beth,
if you change your answer, we have to bring up
two attorneys and do a bunch of paperwork.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, this is because there was like they asked two
hundred questions and they want to use like thirty of them.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
So Beth goes, I don't care. I want to change
an answer.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
They go, Beth, We're gonna have to bring up two
attorneys and sign some paperwork, and she.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Goes, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
So they brought up two attorneys, they signed the paper.
We're gonna happen to be the final jeopardy or the
jeopardy the final question, and it was in bed is
arn't he speed racer?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Or sex in the slowly? That was the That was
the final question.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
You know what's disappointing about this? Yeah, like I've got
it up now.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
No, No, Bob you banks, No, it wasn't. It wasn't
It wasn't Bob.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
It looks like Rick Patino was hosting the show.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh, I'll tell you, man, there's there's been some things.
There's been some game shows, some movies I've been on.
I could go on this all day. But yeah, if
you ever have a chance on YouTube. I was telling
Marriott to you before the show. We got to pull
some some clips of that. There's a couple of X
rated things. I said, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
You see you had hair. You had hair on this show.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Oh yeah, I was looking good.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I must have been about two hundred and eighty pounds
back and then looked like a big banana with that
yellow shirt on.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
So I don't know why why we went yellow. Did
the I don't make that choice, sir.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I was in a room by myself with the two
well watch you with the two other men, and the
other three women were in another room by themselves and
another four just so.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
There was no cheating, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
They don't play games. You can't be cheating out there.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
So yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
It was a fun time, free trip to la and
five days out there.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I'll watched the thing.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
If you ever want to go to a YouTube, just
put Arnie in best Spaniard on the Newlywed game and
believe me, it's it's a fun time. Couple X rated
questions there. I'm such a dope man. One question I
don't pay attention to the questions like what's your favorite restaurant,
and I just go.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Pete Saw and they're like, what do you need.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I's not even a restaurant, you Morali, What kind of
idiot are you? And I just felt like such a
I'm like, oh, sorry, I didn't I wasn't paying attention.
So but there you go on that. So, like I
said J Bart Radio, I'm in stinking genius one.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
All wait a second. I love the first comment, the
first comment on this video. I remember being a senior
in high school listening to Arnie on the radio at
my job. He talked about his upcoming appearance on this
show quite a bit. It's amazing he was only thirty
three here and now I'm forty.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Oh why did you have to read that?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Oh my goodness, man, that makes me feel real old.
Somebody recognizes that and recognized us at the airport from
the newly went game. I recognized my wife. We actually
we have a lot of tweets here. Let me just
get to a couple of them. Steak a genius. I
moved to la from Boston in ninety three. I got
(49:57):
the La Times. I was looking to read T. J.
Simer's and the Legend of Jim Murray Jim Murray was
the writer who coined the phrase cool was the other
side of the pillow describing Joe Montana. Yeah, those writers
Stuart Scott. Yeah, I thought that was Stuart Scott. Also, Yeah,
iconic writers out here in Los Angeles back then, no
doubt about that.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Jason and TJ.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Simers passing away at the age of seventy three years old.
Someone say, look up to TJ. Simers interview with Tommy Lesorta.
Was that the one where he asked, is what did
you think of Kingman's performance?
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Or was that somebody else to ask that question.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I'm gonna look that one up.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, because that's when Timmy sort of starts dropping the
F bombs and goes crazy. I thought that was somebody else,
but it could have been TJ. Simers, and mister nobody
tweets him says, I can still hate the Celtics for
the simple reason they've completely married themselves to analytics with
all those three point shots. Of course, I hate Luca
(50:53):
for being a cry baby. He wouldn't have lasted in
the Larry Birds NBA.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
You said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
You everybody loves the three point shot, and you're you
guys are kind of getting sick of it there. Uh, Jason,
you're you're kind of like that kind of turns jof
about the Celtics, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
I mean I feel like I'm becoming a curmudgeon. It's
just the three point shot is so every up and
down in every basketball game college. It's just wrecked college
basketball to me. And I think that it kind of
peaked a few years ago when Villanova won the championship
with U de Vincenzo and that team. It just felt
like it was threes every time up and down the floor.
(51:30):
And I used to love the three ball, and I
used to try and shoot the three ball myself. But
I just feel like there's no fundamental basketball being played
when you're just moving the ball around as fast as
possible to find somebody open, or you're just gonna take
a shot from fifteen feet beyond the three point line
and make it. It's just it's it's I kind of
wish this. A lot of people will disagree with this,
(51:51):
and probably rightfully so, but I kind of wish they'd
e race the three point line entirely. Wow, you want
to take the long shot, Go ahead and take the
long shot, but you don't get a bonus for it anymore. Wow,
just to see if that would encourage.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Again, wasn't there a commercial Chicks dig the three ball?
No wait wait, that was the long bob so well,
but it's not the same thing though. Isn't that kind
of like the same thing for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Because I think the NBA, the chicks would dig the
slam dunk. I think the equivalent of the home run
is a slam dunk, not the three point shot.
Speaker 7 (52:26):
It is, indeed the slam dunk.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
That's why I Harry getting in there. We're getting a
lot of tweets out here.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
Alreadie.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Jason wrote in the answer stick at Gunior gave for
his wife's favorite food and favorite TV show makes me
laugh still today. Jason Martin and Beth's reaction is must watch.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
They asked what her favorite TV show is and I
said Law and Order, and my wife looked at me
and goes, that's.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Your favorite TV show.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. I got them so bad.
I don't know how, Yeah, I don't. I don't know
how we won the round there, but yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I was awful.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
I can't I can't repeat what I said when they said,
what's the one thing about your wife that bothers you
the most? And so I think I gave it inappropriate
answer to that one. I probably the I'm surprised that
I'm still married.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
About that, all right?
Speaker 1 (53:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
And one other thing I want to get to before
we get back to the to the games and something
like that. I asked you, you know, you still said,
you know, Celtic fans are Boston fans in general not
hated anymore because they don't win. And I brought this
up and our number one, but we still hate the
Philly fans, right, we still hate the Cowboy fans, we
hate the Dallas fans. So why don't we hate the
(53:45):
Boston fans Becase it's not like the Dallas fans are winning,
and it's certainly not like the Philly fans are winning.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
You know, Yeah, I guess that's right. I think that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
It's just that, you know, it's been so long for
the Celtic that you know, we've kind of forgotten about
that hatred.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
But they seem like they feel like it feels like
we've been watching this team at this point in the year,
like for a decade. We haven't been, but it seems
like this unit is right around this spot every year
and we're just kind of waiting to see, are they
finally going to break through and win it this year?
And it hasn't really been that many times. But I
feel like I've watched Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown play
(54:24):
together for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
You know who's not hated anymore? But he used to
be hated and he's kind of involved in the finals?
Is Mark Cuban right?
Speaker 3 (54:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
It's because if he sold part of the team, or
he's not as boisterous as or anymore, or he's not
writing the officials, or maybe he's just not so visible.
I still think he is, though, Do we not hate
Mark Cuban anymore? He's a likable guy now, you know?
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Well? I think I definitely think is what he used
to do, like sort of the way that he conducted himself.
He didn't need to do that more. Luca will do
it for him. I think like the way he has
kind of waded into other issues. I don't like him
as much as I used to. I wasn't bothered by
(55:12):
the way. I just thought he was a super fan
and owner and sometimes came across like a petulant child.
But at the same time I thought he was good
for sports, and I kind of still do. He's just
kind of more in the background now he's not out
on there's not really the stuff that he used to
make news for. He just doesn't make news for anymore.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
All Right, A couple of things I wanted to get to.
Everybody's asking what are the Lakers waiting for? We thought
that JJ Redick was the front runner to get the
head coaching job. Of course JJ redickin is going to
be on the call of the finals. So I'm assuming
that the Lakers are waiting to after the finals for
it to be announced. I don't think it's going to
be anybody else. A you think it's gonna be JJ
(55:52):
Reddick too. Does that mean lebron comes with JJ Reddick
and all this stuff of Lebron going to the Suns
is just boloney?
Speaker 3 (55:59):
And three?
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Does that mean Bronny is going to be a member
of the Lakers because Lebron is gonna bring him around?
And is it gonna be a second round pick? Is
it going to be a free agency You tell.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Me what you think about that whole thing.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Hmmm. I mean, are we doing that after the break?
Speaker 3 (56:15):
We do it? No, you could do that, JJ Reddick.
First of all, I just.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Well Redick Reddick's claim to fame at this point. I mean,
we know who he is as a player and certainly
a smart guy. But when he started hosting the podcast
with Lebron James and they're breaking down plays, and you've
got articles being written that are fawning all over it
and saying this is just like detail with Peyton Manning,
detail with Kobe Bryant, all this, It's very obvious. At
(56:40):
the time. I didn't realize it. But as soon as
Darvin ham was officially let go and JJ Reddick's name
popped up, it's like, oh, that's why he's been doing
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
Do you think with Lebron is that a beginning job
being head coach.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Of the LA Wait? Shouldn't it? Shouldn't be right? I
mean the difference. I mean, Darbin Hammill was at least
on the bench somewhere else, you know, like he was
on he was a staff coach doing something else. JJ
Reddick hadn't coached anywhere.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
But he knows basketball. Do you have to have coached
anywhere else? I mean Guyard, Buddy.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
He's coaching in college, and I mean, I know he
coached on a lower level like his kids or AAU,
but you know he's gonna be a first time coach
there too.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
He is, and we'll see how that goes. I mean,
Gottlieb is a very smart basketball yt he is. The
one thing we don't know is how he's gonna do right,
And I think Doug would be the first one to
say that. I mean, we haven't seen him coach a
single game yet, so we don't know if it's gonna work.
I don't know. I mean, Spolstra is one of the
best NBA coaches of all time. And Spolstra was a
(57:43):
tape you know, film guy for the Miami Heat. Yes,
he was way up, but I'd look at Reddick and
what did Redick do? Reddick played, and then he started
doing a podcast, and then he got hired by ESPN,
and now he's gonna go coach the LA Lakers. Yeah,
it does seem like we were talking about maybe Dallas
felt like it feels like they're kind of cutting the
line right now from their seed and what they're doing,
(58:06):
and it's just outrageous to see them find their way
all the way the NBA Finals. I mean, if he
leaps straight to the head coach of the Lakers, I mean,
I don't know, I don't know what it is. It's
not that he won't be able to do the job,
it's just it's kind of similar. Well, I don't know
if that's fair. I was gonna say it's kind of
similar to Bronnie because Bronnie doesn't have an NBA future
(58:28):
outside of his dad, right, he's not at present time.
JJ Reddick really like, why would JJ Redick be in
the in the running for the Lakers job? But then
you hear what he's also high up in the running
for the Charlotte job. So somebody else was looking at
him as well, closer back to home where he played
at Duke. But so certainly he's smart and he's got acumen.
(58:50):
I just can't believe that's that's what you're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (58:53):
With, that's what they're gonna go with, and that just.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
To me means Lebron James is calling all the shots exactly.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
And we'll get back into that.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
We'll talk more about Lebron and Browny and also Todd
Furman usually joins us next segment.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
He's not coming on today, so I.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
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to get a little college football and as I get
the big ten odds on the win the conference kind
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pan Kmartey Spanier. This is Fox Sports Radio. All right,
good evening everybody. Jason Martin In for Chris Pan Kmarty
spanierl live at the Tyreck dot com studios. Getting a
lot of tweets tonight if you want to join the show.
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Jmartin Radio. I'm at Stinking Genius One. Like Jason said,
Coach k is working as a consultant for the Lakers.
Maybe that's part of the reason why Reddick is being considered.
That just be a cherry on top, would it not be?
I mean, Lebron doing the podcast where you. It's got
to be the number one reason. Is it not there,
Jason or what?
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, it's Lebron. Yeah, I mean, this is one hundred
percent Lebron. And any time that he says anything otherwise,
nobody's buying that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
What's gonna happen the first time? What's gonna happen the
first time? They Lebron has to yell at JJ Reddick
or the other way around.
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
That's a good question. I mean, the fastest way to
be unemployed is to coach Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Yeah, Amen to that. Amen to that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
So I gotta I gotta read you this.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, t J.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Simmers. We talked about him earlier, of course, passing away.
He did an interview with the big lead back in
the day, and this was I guess probably around the time.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
J mack was still there, Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
So so he was let go and can from around
the horn for saying critical stuff. We're talking to de
Seger about that. Here's what he said in the interview
about that this is just like it or hate it,
you almost have to respect it. He says, I ripped
around the horn like I ripped my boss wife CEO
of our company, Dodgers, et cetera. I started ripping around
(01:01:18):
the horn before it went on the air, ripping myself
as much as anyone. So I get a call telling
me I'm being taken off the show for a few
days and if I stop ripping the show, I'll be
back on. So I ripped the show the next day.
Now I find it amusing to hear ESPN talking heads
wondering whether Brian Gumbele should be fired from his NFL
gig for his nasty, nasty remarks in regards to the NFL.
(01:01:38):
You can rip anyone, and ESBN would prefer you did,
so long as you don't rip them. And no no
interest in going back under those conditions.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Wow, no wonder they went ahead and fired of them.
Why was he so mad at the show? I don't understand.
And it's been on for such a long time. You know,
they've gone through so many hosts. What was he so
mad about.
Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
I was trying to find the Lesorda deal. Lesorta actually
was one of his witnesses in the case on his side.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I didn't know that. And by the way, someone John
tweeted and said it was Yankee pa announcer Paul Olden,
who asked was sort of the famous question, what did
you think of Kingman's performance?
Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Dave Kingman? Of course, it hit three home runs that day, and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Lasorda just unleashed a some f bombs. I couldn't even
tell you how many. I couldn't even come close to.
Unless you have the edited version, you just can't play it.
It's just that crazy out there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
We're not Yeah, we're not gonna be able to do
that on terrestrial national radio because I'd still like to
be able to do this again next week.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
See, those were the days when you could do something
like that, when you could. And yeah, when I said that, TJ.
Simers used to write media columns. He'd go after some
of the media also too. He wasn't afraid to do that.
Didn't say how much he got. I thought he got
close to fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Dollars seven point oh. So I was off.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I was off on that. Wow. Still good money, though,
was it?
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Yeah, not that yet. Not bad money when you could
find it. I read that about the consultant about it.
If it was coach k You know, of course, you
know that Genie Bust, the owner of the Lakers, and
I went to high school with Genie, so I should
have asked Genie out.
Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
We could have gone the west Wood.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I could said Genie, come on, let's go to a
movie this weekend. Then we'll have dinner at the Taco
Bell and then we'll go ahead and we'll go out.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
But you know, who knows.
Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
If she would have gone out with we probably fallen
in love and I'd be part owner of the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Of course, she's married to j Moore right now.
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
So but there was a guy in our high school
who ended up coaching with Popovich for twenty years, became
the shot doctor in the NBA now was an assistant
for Oklahoma City and you saw what they did this year,
Chip England.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I don't think you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Guys probably know him, and he went to high school
with us. Also, Genie should have went ahead and asked
him for his you know, to be a consultant since
we all went to high school together, and who should
be the next coach When you worked for Popovich for
twenty years, you probably know a lot of names out there.
And of course, like I said, he's the shot doctor
(01:04:16):
for all the guys he worked with Kawhi Leonard on
how to shoot from the outside and stuff like that.
We had a great shooting coach in high school, so
I felt that she made a mistake by not asking him.
She definitely could have asked me, Jason Martin. You know
I could have gone and give her some advice. You know,
I could add some good advice for you know.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
That, my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Yes, mellow, you give horrible advice.
Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
For Did they run that commercial too many times?
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Or what one more is about? All I can take, like,
I don't know where the suit where the suit ends
and park begins.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
That seems like it's got to be running at every break,
all right, I do. I do want to get to
that college football subject. I want to get into the
CA Clark I. We'll get that coming up. We got
the saga Jordguez at forty five past the hour. But
before we get anything else, the saga walks right on in.
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Right now, we see what's trending.
Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Everything is a final I believe in college baseball. So
everything good to go, except for that one cancel eah
of that one postponemam.
Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
Yeah, you may have heard that. On Saturday, Dallas Baptists
eliminated the Arizona Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yeah, but they lost Grand Canyon.
Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Wildcats lost in home in the opening
the Grand Canyon. Grand Canyon just lost the late game
eliminated by West Virginia tonight, so they advance Oregon. That's typical, Ernie,
Oregon and Texas and each advance Virginia in k state.
Plenty of others Number one Tennessee as well. By the way, Arnie,
there are many reasons why Jeanie Buss would not have
(01:05:44):
gone out with you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
And she would have gone out. We would have seen
Animal House, that was a new movie out the time.
Speaker 7 (01:05:49):
One of the reasons she would not have is that
voice that you just used pretending to ask her.
Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Out, Well, that's the voice I had.
Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Backed it worked, Albarga Taco Bell was big then a
Taco Bell and Westwood at the time.
Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Everybody would hang out there.
Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
By the way, the TJ. Simer settlement was seven million,
but the La Times appealed and then it got more
than doubled.
Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
So yeah, so I knew I was rioted. It was
about fifteen million dollars. How great was that?
Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
And by the way, as far as the NBA ratings
regular season, here in this postseason, the National TV NBA
playoff ratings are at four point one million. That includes
the Dallas series, which did pretty well six point seventy
five million. The finals are going to do more than that.
Regular season NBA one point six million viewers across TNTESPN,
(01:06:42):
and ABC, and that's about five years running one point
six million viewers. WNBA notes we talked about this story
last night after the close game with Chicago and Indiana.
Angel Reese of the Chicago Sky was fined one thousand
dollars for failing to make her sale available to the
media for interview US yesterday. In addition to Chicago organization
(01:07:03):
has been fined five thousand dollars for failing to ensure
that all players comply with media policies on the court.
At New York tonight, the Liberty at seven and two
beat the Indiana Fever a two to nine team one
O four to sixty eight. Caitlin Clark was one of
ten shooting from the floor from three point range one
of seven. She had three points yesterday and their one
(01:07:25):
point win against Chicago. She had eleven points, eight rebounds,
but six turnovers with six assists. With five turnovers and
from three point range yesterday, Clark was two of nine.
As for the NHL, the Stanley Cup Final is set.
It begins at Florida on Saturday. Florida had won the
Eastern Conference. Last night, Edmonton takes the West. Finally, I
(01:07:47):
can't waste tonight two to one over one seed Dallas
Edmonton on I.
Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Love watching Gretzky anyway, so I'm happy.
Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
You know they've done.
Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Check out Messy. This guy's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (01:07:57):
They've done precious little since about nineteen ninety so, in fact,
haven't been in the final since two thousand and six.
But how they got their winning tonight? We mentioned they
were out shot thirty five to ten and still won
the game for a finals clincher, A conference finals clincher.
I should say it's the worst shot differential by any
winning team, getting out shot thirty five to ten and
(01:08:18):
still advanced.
Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
I would have just fired shots from center to it
that point.
Speaker 7 (01:08:24):
Anything, they were very much protecting the lead throughout it.
It worked, so we've got an Oilers Panthers final. Those
two have never met in the postseason. In fact, the
league says this is five straight years that the Stanley
Cup Final is a matchup of franchises that have never
met in the.
Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Postseason in between tiers. Seeing ratings going down the tubes
for this one.
Speaker 7 (01:08:44):
Well, I think it's going to be more than the
one point six million that the NBA got regular season,
but it's not going to come close again to NBA post.
Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
If I'm right.
Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Do they put in the Canadian audience for the ratings
or they're not.
Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
Oh, you remember the Raptors. Raptors run NBA and there
is no Toronto ratings. It's not a US media market.
Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Yeah, you can't do that though, that's not fair.
Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
Meanwhile, we have the NBA Finals at some point in
our lifetime coming along this week Thursday night, it's due
to be the Celtics hosting the Mavericks in Game one.
Next Sunday night is Game two at Boston. Dallas will
be hosting games three and four, but that's not till
June twelfth and fourteenth. Ooh, Wednesday and Friday of the
next week. At College Softballs World Series, Florida and Stanford
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each one elimination games. Austin Sindric won the NASCAR race
at Gateway in Illinois. This is five miles from the
Gateway Arch Saint Louis, but it's on the other side
of the Mississippi River. This race was on FS one
today and Ryan Blaney was leading and ran out of
gas late in the race. That allows Cindric to pass
him for the victory, his first since Daytona two years ago.
Fired It is an eighty five race drought that adds.
(01:09:57):
Denny Hamlin finished second. Simone Biles won the US Gymnastics
title for the ninth time tonight in Fort Worth. The
Olympic trials are late this month. In Minnesota. The Sunday
night ballgame went to the Cardinals in ten innings, five
to four at Philadelphia. Nolan Gorman of the Cards a
homer and three RBIs, and the Yankees have won five straight.
They got four runs top of the ninth to win
(01:10:18):
at San Francisco seven to five.
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Back to you, all right, thanks so the sagre Jason
Martin for Chris Plank of Artie Spaanier. This is Fox
Sports Radio. You want to be part of the show,
real simple at j Martin Radio. I'm a stinking genius
one a couple of things I want to bring up,
and you're a little mat at you. Jason Martin. I'm
going to tell you why, my friend, Well, because if you,
let's say you were getting married in let's say two
(01:10:39):
months from.
Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Let's let's not say that I don't think. I don't
think my wife and two daughters I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Well, let's let's turn back the clock and say you're
getting married. I would expect you to start telling us
wedding stories and where you're going on your honeymoon, and
the problems arose, and the flowers are not going to
get delivered on time, or this dot and the other
would be hearing stories about it because it's a big
event in your life. It's a umongous event. I don't
know if this is a good comparison, but you are
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the college football stud the guru. I don't know if
anybody lives college football more than you, other than maybe,
let's say, Jeff Schwartz. I like college football. But we're
about to have an historic year here, a year that
we've never seen before in our entire lives. I mean,
this year is so historic. It's going to change the
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landscaping of college football, not only because of the new conferences,
because of the way we're gonna start doing playoffs too.
I just can't believe that we're not pumping this up more,
especially with all the new matchups and all the new
places where are that are gonna carry games? And the
(01:11:50):
new Big Ten and the new SEC Are you not
pumped for this?
Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
This is like historic.
Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I thought you'd be counting down the days like on
a calendar, marking an X until it's start college football season.
Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
You know, Well, I mean you're saying that I'm not
excited about it. I'm super excited about it. But it's
June the.
Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Second, right, But it is historic though.
Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Right right now, I'm excited about EA Sports College Football
twenty five it comes out of July, and I'm excited
about the Phil Steel book coming out because that's kind
of when college football feels like it's really here. I'm
giving it time to breathe. I mean, we've got the
NBA Finals right now. We've got that for a couple
of weeks, then we can jump into this. It's early summer.
There's not anything to get that excited about yet. I'm
(01:12:29):
gonna try and buy my time so I'm full of
energy for week one. I'm maybe at Torres and I
can't wait.
Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Right Well, maybe I jumped the gun because I saw
before the show today they put out the odds on
winning the conferences. I pulled the odds on who's going
to win the Big Ten? And guess who's number one?
And it's not Ohio State, it's not Penn State, and
it's not Michigan. How do you like them apples?
Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
My friend?
Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Interesting? It is the Oregon Ducks, the new kid on
the Oregon team.
Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Thirty seven point five percent chance. They're saying the Oregon
Ducks will go ahead and win the Big Ten, and
they're by far the favorites to win that conference. From
thirty seven point five in second place Ohio State twenty
five point seven, then Penn State twenty two point two,
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then Michigan all the way at seven percent. And this
is the part that got me USC two point nine percent,
and then all the way down at UCLA at.
Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Zero point three percent.
Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
You don't even get a ticket for DUI at zero
point three percent?
Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Or is it point oh three?
Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Excuse eight? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yeah, it's point oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Point eight eight point oh eight are the new teams
except for Oregon obviously they're right up there. But USC
at two point nine and UCLA at point three. I
can't I can't wait to watch USC take on some
of these.
Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Big Ten teams.
Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
I can't wait for UCLA and Michigan in some of
those games. I'm just so pumped up for this, But
I was surprised when I saw those odds.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
You know, well, yeah, I mean that's it's interesting, But
if you really look at it, you lose Caleb Williams
USC last year. I mean, that defense was such.
Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
A debacle, horrible, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Just an embarrassment. And Lincoln Rowley's never been able to
feeld one, not at Oklahoma, not at USC. You bring
in somebody, maybe that's gonna change it, but we're gonna
have to see that. And you're going from the Pac
twelve to the Big Ten, where they're gonna try and
run it down your throat a whole lot. You're gonna
be going from playing in warm weather to playing in
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you know, not warm weather. If you're USC, they're going
into a different universe now. And two percent probably feels
about right because I know what they are because Kayleb
Williams was their team, right. I mean, that's a low number,
but this is the breaks of joining the conference. You
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see the highs when you're Oregon. Oregon's bringing a whole
lot of that team back. Not everybody, of course, but
a whole lot of that team is coming back. Lanning
seems to really have that program firing on all cylinders.
Ohio State has had an incredible last six to seven weeks.
Whatever you think about Ryan Day, they're always going to
be in the mix. Do you have Charon Moore in
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his first year at Michigan. But at the same time
they lost a lot, so they I believe in Sharon Moore.
I just don't know if they're going to have all
the tools that they need in the toolbox to get
the job done this season. Penn State, I'm never going
to believe in as long as James Franklin is a coach,
just because.
Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Well, third, they're predicted third.
Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
That's about what he is. He's about third, Like, that's
about what James Franklin is. James Franklin on Saturdays game days,
that's not his best day. His best day is when
he's recruiting and doing the used car salesman deal inside
of somebody's home.
Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
If we have time, I'll give you odds on other conferences.
When we get back, though, the saga will stop on bye.
Get to some of the stories we haven't had a
chance to talk about yet that's coming up next right
here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're live at
tyreck dot com Studios Jason Martin and for Chris play
Cammarti Spaniard.
Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Why right here at Fox Sports Radio. What did we miss?
Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Let's check in with our buddy Steve the Saga. See
what's going on? What's up out there? To Sega?
Speaker 7 (01:16:28):
You mentioned USC football. Their opener this season is the
Sunday night game that first weekend from Vegas, USC against LSU.
Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
But they tried to back out of that game. What
was going on there?
Speaker 7 (01:16:39):
They can't back out of that game. They weren't in.
Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
They were trying to for a long time.
Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Well they're in. It's USC LSU the first Sunday night.
Most teams open that final weekend of August, including some
Thursday night games. I haven't seen like blockbuster great opening matchups.
It'll get better later. But yeah, there are a ton
of games college football final weekend of August. As for
the NHL, we've got a Stanley Cup Final that's Florida
(01:17:07):
hosting Edmonton starting Saturday. There was a Sportsnet stat from
Canada right after the Oilers clinch that this finals matchup
a Miami team against Edmonton Alberta team. It's the longest
distance between two finalists ever in the NHL. And somebody,
a college football writer immediately said, yeah, it's going to
hold the record for longest distance between finalists until the
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Big Ten football final is like Oregon Rutgers. So stay
tuned on that.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Well, always go with the goaltending Grand Fear, great goaltender
goal with him.
Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Okay, yeah, Grant Fear.
Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Nobody knows what I'm going to work with me, your people,
I'm using my good stuff here on you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Olers, work with me a little bit here.
Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
What is an amazing story is that the Oilers are
even here because they fired their coach early in the season.
They had such a poor start. In fact, the Oilers
had started to a tent well technically two nine and
one overtime loss, but let's say two to ten five
points in the standings. That's now the fewest points in
the standings through twelve games in NHL history by any
(01:18:15):
team that went on to play in the final.
Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
That I like, Paul Coffee, that's nothing, nothing nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Did I give up? I give up? That's it. I'm
not gonna no more.
Speaker 7 (01:18:24):
Note my references. Okay, we have an update to a
story we brought up last night from college baseball. This
is the sound of the applause for the Birmingham Southern
baseball team as they concluded their season today. Why are
we talking Birmingham Southern baseball because they were in the
Division three World Series. Again. Why are we talking Birmingham
(01:18:48):
Southern Baseball because the school as of Friday does not exist.
It closed for good. It had been a college since
the eighteen hundreds, but without state funding. They had announced
a couple of months ago this is going to be
our last year. So the school closes Friday. The baseball
team wins to stay alive on Saturday and then loses
(01:19:10):
eleven to ten to Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Be a little bit of like, was it Jim Craig
came from a school that was the longer route, was
like Milton College or something like that.
Speaker 7 (01:19:20):
Oh it was, Yeah, who is the quarterback with Dave Craig?
You're talking? Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it did not exist, and
I think he was still playing at the time in
the NFL and his college did. Oh Jim Zorn, right,
Jim Jim z Orn was I think played for Occidental
and they dropped football. But the college, of course, still existed.
What you're talking about, the actual school stopped existing exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
All right too.
Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
If I appreciate that the Sega short segment two hours
of the Books Power Hour next year on Fox Sports Radio,
Oh I still I got a home what I literally
said two minutes, and I hear you say while you're
closing out the show, You're like, boy, really bad.
Speaker 7 (01:20:07):
This is the problem for somebody who doesn't even know
his producer's name, and it's proud of it, thinks he
can be the producer.
Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
He calls me Awards was producers.
Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I knew.
Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I heard somebody in my ear going, no, you got
another minute, But I'm like, that can't be a producer.
We don't have one. I don't understand, especially seconds left right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Keep going. Thank you very much. I appreciate that I
screwed that one up and usually flagged screws it up.
Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Don't quit your day, j On Man. Thank you the
thing you won the.
Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Game because your shoes he not winning the radio game.
Speaker 7 (01:20:41):
Chris, come back, all.
Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Right, when we come back, I have no idea what
we're going to talk about now. How about that you're
frustrated me here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh good evening, everybody.
Jason Martin in for Chris Blank, I've already spatt your
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I want to apologize on behalf of the saga for
screwing on the up that last segment.
Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Shaman de Seger.
Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
You know, the sega's been doing this for like one
hundred and fifty years and he screwed that up.
Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
So he's bad, and all.
Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
The audio is saved so we can easily go back
to the.
Speaker 7 (01:21:33):
Time we've been replaying it like three times now.
Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
I'll blame you guys too.
Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I'll blame the producers if we have one anyway, and
our technical directors and all that. Don't bring me in this.
I was in your ear, I said, two minutes, not
too much.
Speaker 7 (01:21:48):
Lang's gonna hear about this one next week.
Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Arnie.
Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
You know it's not like Plank doesn't do the same thing.
He's done it a couple of times.
Speaker 7 (01:21:54):
We're gonna take away your picks. No more pickside.
Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Of the program. Please be sure to podcast us search
us wherever you get your podcasts, and save this one
for perpetuity, because this is gonna be like, you know,
destroying documents in the West Wing or something like that.
Or he's gonna try and get everything.
Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
I'll get it out.
Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
I'll get our worthless producer to cut that part out
of the show. SORRD so our boss doesn't hear that
our boss is in a bad mood because.
Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
All the Minnesota teams lost.
Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
When the Minnesota teams lose, he's always, you know, yelling
at me.
Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
He just he's a bear.
Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
I mean, he's unbelievable, hard to work for when the
Minnesota teams lose.
Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Isn't that right, Jason or what?
Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
I've never heard him, yeah, entire life.
Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
He's not gonna say anything bad about the boss.
Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Hey, they sent me something. I got it. I got it.
Came a few days ago. They sent us some very
nice things for our newborn. They didn't have to do that,
but they sound like a hand embroidered blanket on it
and a onesie with the logo and a bid with
the logo, which was similar to what they did when
Claire Grace was born. It's awesome, very that'll be a
(01:23:07):
that'll be a post on X. At some point, we'll
put her in those things when she's ready for him.
She's a big one though. She actually got aided this week.
She's eight weeks, she's fourteen and a half pounds.
Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Wow, she is a wow.
Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Start start getting ready for her little w NBA stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
She might be six feet tall. I mean, my wife's
almost six feet tall and I'm six two and a half.
Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Yeah, so yeah, you're somewhat. That's more than an average
for a guy. There's no doubt about that. So, by
the way, speaking about the w NBA, look at that.
Look at that transition from the saga and my producers
the last segment to the way I transitioned to Caitlin
Clark bad shooting Night one for ten. I think she
left the game early. Not a good performance. She is
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having her struggles. She is putting up some good numbers,
but she's having her struggles in the w NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, but let's let's let's let's stop right there. Go ahead,
tell me real fast, like all right, So they lost
by or they won by one on Saturday, Okay, and
that I went. I actually went and watched the foul
and that was as dirty as it gets. Knocking her
down just just ridiculous. She had her ear was bothering
her or something on Sunday. But this is the big thing.
(01:24:20):
They played a back to back. They played on Saturday
and then they played on Sunday against the Liberty team
that's really good. Like I was just looking at it
after the fact, say, Okay, she had three points on
one of ten. Anybody can have a bad day, But
is there something that would also help explain it. Well,
the Liberty haven't played since May thirty first until today.
Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Right, they'd also they've had like.
Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Three days off going into this and the Fever, who
aren't that good anyway, played yesterday in a game that
came down to the last second and then immediate we
had to come back out twenty four hours later and
play against one of the best teams in the league.
So again, it's just I think it's important to put
the context out there. She did have a horrible game
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before the worst game of her career, but you could
have potentially looked at that and said, Okay, well, maybe
that's a little bit more explainable. They have been absolutely
crushed in terms of all the games that they've played
already this season.
Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
You know, I watch it up as I mean, look
here we are talking about the WNBA, right, and how
great that is for the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
I had done a when I was working at another network.
Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
We had a you know, we pulled somebody out of
the audience. If they made a half court shot, you
got like one hundred thousand dollars or something like that.
It was before the Liberty game. I remember looking at
the crowd and the people tell me, this is unbelievable.
Look at this crowd. Yeah, it wasn't even a third full.
It wasn't even a third full. And I'm thinking about
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that night because they were given away one hundred thousand
dollars to get even that third into the crowd there.
Compared to now, where the Indiana Fever have more higher
tenants in five.
Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Home games then they did all of last year.
Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I mean, it is remarkable what Caitlin Clark is doing
to draw these people into the game. And I saw
before the game today she went over to a group
of kids that were wearing the Iowa shirts and the
Fever shirts and the Caitlin Clark shirts, took pictures with them.
She's doing everything you're supposed to do, not when you're
(01:26:24):
in the WNBA, not when you're a rookie, but when
you're going into any sport, whether it's baseball, football, basketball, hockey, track.
Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
And field, tennis.
Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
I don't care, be humble, remember where you came from,
and give back to the fans that love you. That's
exactly what she's doing. I actually tweeted that out, the
video of her getting around all the kids. I thought
that was fantastic and I think she loves to do
it and good for her. But I just Jason, for
the life of me, and I know we talked about
(01:26:56):
this yesterday. The jealousy has gotten out of can. Yes,
I know there's competitiveness and they want to win, and
I know that it gets chippy in the WNBA, and
I'm totally okay with that. But the pettiness and the
way some of the girls are going after Caitlin Clark,
it's out of control. And why her own teammates don't
(01:27:18):
do anything to have her back or to protect her,
and maybe they do, I don't because I don't watch
all the games, is beside myself. I I just don't
understand it. You have to protect somebody like that, and
I just can't understand the jealousy and the pettiness, as
Charles Barker would say. Here, they are flying at commercial flights,
(01:27:39):
they're getting more money outside of the game, they're getting commercials,
and that's all because of Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
I just don't understand what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
You know, they were tired of her before she got there,
and I said, they you don't want to loop everybody
right in jenal Right, Yes, they were tired of her
before because they had heard enough and they had seen
kind of the pageantry surrounding her last few months at
Iowa and just the coverage that she was getting and
all this kind of stuff. And generally speaking, it feels like,
(01:28:14):
whether or not it's true, it feels like they'd rather
their league not be successful if it means she would
fall on her face, and that stinks. That level of
just spite, if that's what it feels like, it feels
very spiteful towards her, right, And they're a myriad of
factors that go into it. But the larger point here
(01:28:37):
is and everyone knows this, whether they want to admit
it or whether they want to write a bunch of
columns about other women basketball players that do nothing from
a business standpoint, doesn't mean anything about their basketball acumen
or anything else. That's not what we're talking about here.
We're talking about sometimes there's bigger stars. There's just bigger stars.
Sometimes you catch lighting in a bottle. And if you're
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a league like a WNBA, this is the a block
on a national sports radio show in June. We're not
in the playoffs, we're not in your postseason, which I
don't even know when it starts, and we're talking about
your league because there's something special here. There's something unique here.
It feels like something you want to go be a
part of when it comes to your town. I want
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to see your play once. I want to be able
to say, yeah, I went and saw Caitlin Clark whatever.
Like There's just there's events like that, and I don't
know how long it lasts. I don't know how long
you actually have here before everyone goes back into their
regular routines and the WNBA kind of recedes back to
(01:29:40):
not being relevant on the national sports scene. So I
feel like everybody is missing the opportunity to drift off
of her. If you want to think of her like
a race car, you can everybody can go a little
bit faster with her. But I don't think that the
way to do that is cheap shot fouls and some
(01:30:01):
of this stuff, like some of the comments, like the
Angel Reese comment for example. I mean, yeah, but Angel rees.
The reason we know who Angel Reese is is because
we know the Clarks exactly, and she's still doing that.
And honestly, it's smart by her because she's trying to
stay Caitlin Clark's rival. She's still because she says kind
stuff about her in press conferences that you know, we're friendly,
(01:30:23):
you know, we don't hate each other, and all this
kind of stuff. I don't know if that's true or not.
I know that that's a rivalry that feels like it's
you know, ripped out of pro wrestling. It feels like
it would be right at home in WWE or AEW
or somewhere like that. But if you're Angel Reese, she's
not that great a basketball player. Not that she's terrible,
but she's not going to be you know, she's not
(01:30:45):
going to go down as one of the greatest of
all time or anything. But she has an opportunity and
she I think is taking advantage of it in the
right way. But some of this stuff, as you mentioned,
is beyond the pale, and it's just harmful because it's
we don't know your name because you elbowed Caitlyn. It
just makes us look at and be like, well, why
do we even care about your stupid league? Like that's
(01:31:05):
how it feels. It's like, do you want us to
watch or not? Do you do you want to take
advantage of this? Do you like some of the things
that are happening, or do you just want us to
go back to treat you the way we did last
year in terms of your league, because we'll be glad
to do that. There's I mean, it's not that entertaining.
Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
When's the last time we had an athlete that went
ahead and brought this much attention to a sport. I mean, yes,
there was a Lebron, there was a Gretzki when he
came into the NHL, burden magic. Obviously they saved the NBA.
I mean, I know the answer, Tim Tebow. Maybe are
we talking about team sports or overall, just don't like
(01:31:42):
tiger Woods. Well, Tiger Wood, yes.
Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
And then you can look at for women's tennis, you
could look at Venus and Serena. I think maybe Mike Tyson, Yeah,
Tyson and boxing. I definitely think that's a that's a
good one. I mean there there are some examples of this.
I mean, nobody cared about swim, but they carecter individual
those are individual sports.
Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Yeah, look at the teams.
Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Yeah, if you look at team sports in terms of
just saving a league, you talk about Magic and Larry
I definitely think there is something to be said, and
then Lebron kind of picking up the torch for Michael
Jordan and then it's him and Kobe and but I
do think that there were other uh contributors that had
that same kind of thing. Baseball has been struggling to
(01:32:27):
find that person. I don't think Mike Trout's been their
best player. But Mike Trout wasn't that guy. He wasn't
the one that was going to stand out in that way. Now,
maybe you have like a Dela Cruz now or something
like that, but you don't have you don't have some
of the personalities that you had with those mid eighties
Mets teams, Harper some of those kind of people. Yeah,
(01:32:48):
Harper is a good example. Yeah, I think that's true.
But but you're right. I mean, Caitlin Clark is the
entire league from a from a financially uh been official standpoint. Again,
this is not that no one's working hard and that
no one can play and all this other kind of
stuff relative to the women's game. It's just that you
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have one meal ticket from a business perspective.
Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
And she's bringing in money from the TV revenue and
making that higher so they can get a better salary
from years down the line. It's gonna be because of her,
for the reason in two, three, four years, salaries will
go up because you got to pay an extra You
gotta pay more money for the rights of the WNBA,
(01:33:33):
so that money is gonna go back to the WNBA
and you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
A higher salaries.
Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
But don't make any mistake about it, the league still
doesn't make any money.
Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
It's subsidized by the NBA.
Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
When is it gonna be able to stand out in
its own two feet That's gonna be the question.
Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Yeah, And I don't know if the watcher is ever
gonna be I don't know that it will ever stand
on his feet because for all of the women's basketball
is now renaissance on the I don't think so. I
think this is this is a moment in time that
you need to take as much advantage of as possible.
But you also need to be realistic and look at
(01:34:06):
what's what is success for the WNBA. Is this the
high point you hope not if you're in women's basketball,
but at the very least you can't afford to squander it.
And that's what I see in some ways that right now,
everything that you read about this doesn't make me want
to actually watch it, but like you know what, you've
(01:34:29):
done a good job at pushing me away.
Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Sharon tweets and said, I have to believe that Caitlin
Clark was heard by that disgusting hit. She was hit
hard and it hit hard on the floor. I think
that may have had it would effect on today's game,
could have been like you said, Jason was back to
back games too, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Yeah, I mean she was worn out, the team was
worn out. They I mean they got beat by like
forty I mean they got absolutely destroyed in the game.
She was complaining with something with her ear. I don't know.
I think it was something actually happened during the game,
but certainly that comment is not off base. I mean
that shot was just there was nothing basketball about that.
Even Caitlin Clark said that wasn't a basketball play. I mean,
(01:35:07):
just walk past her angry and just straight up elbowed
her and knocked her down. There wasn't that the ball
wasn't even in play at the time. It was. It
was like immediate ejection right there. I know they upgraded
it to a flagrant one, right which flagrant one? That's
just flagrant as it gets because it was just basically
assaulting someone for no reason.
Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
I like this tweet that came in just now.
Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Can't the Indiana Fever hire Beer Bill Lambier as a
special assistant coach to sit and just glare at the
Chicago sky Post players for the rematch? Yeah, that would
be pretty good, especially if he still has that black eye,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Just that Beer was was part of the WNBA, was
he not.
Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
I think he used to be a coach, but I'm
not sure, like.
Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
I think he actually has a tie to that. I
do think he was a head coach at some point
so I mean, that's not out of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Just have him stared glare at the other team and
get him.
Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Get Rick Mahore. Where's Anthony Mason right now? Like find
the all like the all Goon team.
Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
I think Anthony Mason might have passed away? Uh oh really, yeah,
I think did I miss that? You might have to
do you have to pull that up.
Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
I used to do this all the time. I used
to actually do it in reverse and say this person's
dead and they were still alive.
Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Oh well, yeah, I think I'm not a hunt I think.
Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
He did pass away, you know what. And he passed
away a long time ago too. I totally missed that.
Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Wow, well, well I was gonna say a couple of
years ago, but time flies on by that. But yeah,
you get some of the bad boys sitting on the
bench out there and kind of glare at the other team.
It's it's kind of bad that her team isn't very good.
I'm wondering how long we're to continue to tune on
in to watch Caitlin Clark until we're like, Okay, enough
is enough. They're not a good team that losing by
(01:36:49):
twenty or twenty five points every time, well, I.
Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Want to know what the TV ratings are going to be, Like,
I'm curious to see what the TV ratings are is
this season goes along because everybody tuned in for the
curiosity factor. I'm now already to the point where I'm
just kind of following it via the news that's happening
right and the box scores. I'm not going and finding
the games. I did that for like the first week.
It's not that if I saw her playing, I wouldn't
(01:37:13):
stay and watch for a minute or two or whatever.
But I feel like that's going to continue to kind
of deteriorate. There's gonna be some entropy there. We're gonna
see a little bit of decomposition of that, and it's
just gonna kind of it's gonna come. There's gonna be
a baseline, but I think that baseline is gonna be
relatively small in terms of people that are actually tuning
(01:37:33):
in and watching the games. And it definitely does not
help that the team hasn't been good and they've been
put through murderers row when it comes to a schedule
early in the season, and the one thing they can't
have is her be bad and she's not. She had
that one. She had a terrible game on Sunday. But
(01:37:53):
the one thing they need is for her to be good,
like she's got to be good, because that's really what
her aura was to be in with in colleges, that
she was that good.
Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
We had a host, I know, a host that said
she should be playing in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Yeah, we won't met your names, sane.
Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
We won't mention your names out there.
Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
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I also have the odds on who's gonna win the SEC.
(01:38:31):
If you want to get into little football, we'll have
that coming up next right here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, good evening, everybody, Jason Martin In for Chris Plank,
Camari Span you here in Fox Sports Radio. We are
live from the TIREC dot Com studios. Moving along on
this Sunday night, Still a lot to get to. You know,
Jason Plank and I always argue that we don't hit
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all the Roman numerals that I write down before the show.
We write, we write Roman numerals. That's the way it
was done old's school. I don't know if you learned
that in school. Well, that's what that's how you run outlines.
Roman numeral number one. I gave you the big ten.
Maybe see if I can stump you on the SEC
(01:39:14):
because you are the you are the college football guy Georgia,
the favorite to win the SEC the subcoming year. They're
plus one eighty five. That means one hundred dollars get
you back one eighty five. Do you want to take
a guess who's second? Who's predicted a second to win
the SEC?
Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
I have not seen this, but I would say.
Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Texas, Oh good, guess I thought I was gonna catch it.
Maybe you thought that maybe Texas you forgot they were
gonna be in the SEC. I was a little surprised
about that. Plus three ten, then Ole miss at plus
six fifteen.
Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Oh, I mean if they don't win with what they
I mean, look at their look at how they've handled
and who they're bringing in, Like the nil money and
what they've spent like that. That's why they were up there,
Like you look at that roster is loaded and we
all know lank if it can coach let me, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
I It just occurred to me as we were talking
about Texas and we were talking about Caitlin Clark, and
we said, when's the last time somebody came into a
team sport that we desperately wanted to see? Could I
put arch Manning in that maybe position? But what we
were dying is if I told you that he was
going to start Game one, you would have that circled
(01:40:26):
with a red marker, you know, with an asterisk.
Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Sake, I can't wait, wouldn't you know? Let's go?
Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
I want everybody would watch that game? Right, That's that's true.
Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
But that would be a different factor because we already
know what Caitlin Clark is as a quantity, because we've
actually seen her play a lot in college like WNBA Y.
I understand that's different. But arch Manning we know nothing
about except what he's done in high school.
Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
Is he gonna stay there? Because I don't think he's
gonna play this year?
Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
Right, He's not going to play this year it'll be
yours unless you weres gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Oh my Goodnes don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
I mean I think that if there's anybody that would
tell him stay the course, it would be Hayden and Eli, right.
I think that I think that the family that he
is in, he knows he's gonna get his opportunity and
he doesn't need to rush this.
Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
He thought he was going to be a four year
starter probably.
Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Or not right, because I mean, he's going if he
has the talent that we're told that he has, he's
going to end up in the NFL. He's gonna have
his moment to be the starting quarterback at Texas. If
he wants to leave and go somewhere else, then you know,
that's a that's a that's a chance that he can take.
But I just think that they're probably telling him, look,
(01:41:34):
you're gonna get your opportunity to shine like it's it's
yours time right now. If yours goes down, then maybe
you're gonna have that opportunity a little bit sooner. But
I don't think arts needs to rush.
Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Is Arch penty a time another Brownie James situation happened, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Doesn't play with the height that he yeah, but look
at the HYPEI coming out of high school, like look
at you know, yeah, but that but a lot of
that was stro with Arch. It was just look at
what he can do. He's he's got the arm Peyton
and Eli, but he can also move and all of
those things like that stuff didn't just come out of
(01:42:11):
thin air. Like he was an incredible prospect and we
knew that coming out. And by the way, quinn Ewers
was like a perfect prospect, like in terms of his
ratings coming out of high school. So you look at
where he finds himself. Now, now he is in this
prime opportunity and Arch is just kind of sitting there
Biden's time. He's going to be fine, and maybe who
knows how how much he's learning behind the scenes, and
(01:42:34):
when he does take over, he's going to be much
more equipped and the stuff that maybe he couldn't have
known until he got there. He might have all the tangibles,
but now he's learning some of the other qualities that
you need to succeed at the highest level. I just
think hit the brakes on trying to rush it in
because he's gonna get his chance.
Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Eli's old team Ole miss at number three at plus
six fifty and then Alabama number four plus nine fifty
wins the last time. Yet, if I'm at the number
four slide all because of Nick Saban or because they
say they lost so many players once Nick left, I mean,
obviously they're gonna miss Nick Saban, though.
Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
I mean it Saban's the biggest factor. It is because
even though Kaitlyn de War has succeeded everywhere he's coached,
this is a completely different challenge for him, and he's
replacing the guy and that can be incredibly difficult to do.
They've still got milrow, they've still got some talent, but
they lost some talent as well, and you just have
to see how the borer is gonna come in and
(01:43:31):
how he's gonna work, because this is a different SEC,
it really is. And you know Saban got out, didn't
want the nil, didn't want to do all those kinds
of things. Not surprised. I predicted it two three years ago.
I said he's got about three more years and he'll
be out, not because he can't win anymore, but because
it's not gonna be his fun for him anymore. And
I think he's gonna be great on TV but I
mean you look at Tennessee is there now you were
(01:43:55):
gonna see what A and M is gonna do now
that they've moved on from Jimbo Fisher. But you bring
in Texas, you bring in Oklahoma, you have what you
already had in that conference. Ole Miss is certainly not
going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
It's gonna be a root awakening for a Tennee Oklahoma
after you know, being in the Patsy Conference ad with
the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Now go to the.
Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
SEC every week is gonna be on the line for them,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's gonna be I think it's
gonna be fun to watch because I do think the
Big Twelve in the past couple of years has been
pretty good as a conference they have, It's been competitive,
it's a different kind of football it's played in the SEC,
and you were gonna see but Texas handled themselves pretty
well against Alabama a year ago.
Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
You're an SEC guy, though, so you're more excited about
watching the the U SEC than anybody else out there.
Speaker 8 (01:44:43):
Well, I don't know about anybody in the world, but no,
I meant, yeah, I'm at a fever pitch like like
anybody I'm at one hundred percent, So anybody else that
wants to join me at one hundred percent is that
one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
I can't wait for the college football season. I can't.
I want to see how all this actually plays out out,
what this looks like, because it's it just feels like
it's basically a professional sport now, and you have an
il with it, especially with the schools being able to
pay directly and not having to go through their proxies
in these collectives. You have all of that. You now
(01:45:16):
have a ruling the NCAA transfer rules are completely gone.
Now you have unlimited transfers from athletes, right, which I
think is I understand why, but I don't think that's
gonna work because I mean, how how how good are
you gonna have to treat these guys? Are they just
gonna be able to leave during the third quarter?
Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
Geez?
Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
I think we're gonna get a ratings a game that's
gonna maybe rival a bad NFL game, You know what
I'm saying That we're gonna have two teams that were like,
my goodness, welcome to the SEC or welcome to the
Big Ten with the USC or UCLA game and everybody's
gonna be tuned in and it's gonna shatter all kinds
of records. I think this is gonna be great for
(01:45:59):
college I believe everybody's pumped up in kind of a
renowned interest in seeing this.
Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
You know, yeah, I mean again, you I don't have
to be renewed to my interests. But I do like
the fact that we have a few more teams in
a playoff so that we have more stakes, more games
with stakes. At the end, it's just gonna be fun
to see how it works and what needs to be tweaked,
because I do think some of it is not going
to work, and they're going to have to figure their
(01:46:27):
way through that and hopefully they're going to make the
right decisions along the way. But it's gonna be a
really fun year for college football. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
We got some more football notes to get to. We'll
get to that, but first the final checking with Steve
the Sager, see what's trending tonight, what's going on out
there to Sega.
Speaker 7 (01:46:42):
And first things first, the NBA Finals don't start till Thursday,
but we'll finally get that underway when the Celtics host
the MAVs. Thursday night, and Game two's at Boston next
Sunday night. We mentioned the series a little bit last night,
but there's the stat that the Celtics this postseason, when
they take a double digit lead in the game, are
ten and oh in these playoffs, and the Celtics have
(01:47:03):
outscored their opponents from three point range by ten points
per game, in addition to outscoring them at the line
six points per game. Boston the one seed in the
East regular season sixty four and eighteen playoffs twelve and two.
For what it's worth, the MAVs on the road are
seven and two this postseason. Once the Celtics get on
the road, they're six and oh in the away games
(01:47:25):
this postseason. Well, last night, Florida won the NHL's Eastern Conference,
taking Game six against the top seeded New York Rangers.
Tonight in Edmonton, the Oilers took Game six to the
West Final, eliminating top seed Dallas two to one, even
though Edmonton was outshot thirty five to ten in this game.
The Stanley Cup Finals starts Saturday at Florida. Game two
(01:47:46):
is Monday, the tenth at Florida. In the WNBA, Connecticut's
eight to oh after winning easily at Atlanta for Phoenix,
Diana Tarassi thirty one points in an easy win against
La which is two and six Indiana's two to nine.
After losing badly at New York one four to sixty eight.
Caitlin Clark had three points one of ten shooting from
the floor in Minnesota at home eighty seven to seventy six.
(01:48:08):
Winners against Dallas at the French Open by the way
no WNBA tomorrow. At the French tomorrow. Novak Djokovic men's
number one will be back at action after he won
his third rounder late last night in a five set
match that ended after three am. In Paris. Coco Goff
today won our fourth round match easily, as did number
one Egas Fiantech six love, six love in forty minutes.
(01:48:31):
Imagine having tickets to that. At College Softball's World Series
elimination game, wins tonight for Florida beating Alabama sixty four
and for Stanford, which eliminated UCLA three to one. Stanford
gets number one Texas tomorrow night. Florida Gators against number
two ranked Oklahoma tomorrow and at the NCAA Baseball Tournament,
(01:48:52):
number one Tennessee one again to advance. It was hosting
a regional this weekend. There are a few games in
college baseball tomorrow to wrap up the reach by the Way.
US Women's Open was in Lancaster, PA this weekend. It
went to Japan's Yukosaso. American Andrea Lee shot a final
round seventy five and fell to a tie for third place.
The woman who won this event took it three years
(01:49:13):
ago also, but those are her only two wins on tour.
Yukosaso turns twenty three this month, born in the Philippines.
To start today three way tie she takes at Robert
McIntyre won the men's Canadian Opened by one stroke with
his dad as his caddie. This weekend, Austin Sindrick took
the NASCAR Race at Gateway as Ryan Blaney ran out
(01:49:34):
of gas late in the race. Simone Biles won the
US Gymnastics title for a ninth time. The UFL football
regular season ended tonight. Fox TV had one in eight
Memphis hosting one in eight Houston, and the league announced
this week whoever wins this game gets the number one
draft choice next year, not the loser who finishes with
the worst record Congrats Memphis nineteen to twelve on a
(01:49:56):
touchdown with about six minutes left. Attendance was six thousand
and at DC today attendants thirteen thousand. Is Arlington won
that one thirty two thirty one. The conference finals are
next weekend. Fox TV has a game next Sunday, Saint
Louis hosting San Antonio. Last night, Saint Louis had thirty
four thousand fans as they clinched home field advantage beating
San Antonio thirteen twelve. Tonight's baseball game at Philadelphia went
(01:50:19):
to the Cardinals in ten innings, five to four over
the Phills. Next weekend, the Phillies are in London against
the Mets. Next weekend, the Yankees will be hosting the Dodgers.
Dodgers beat Colorado four nothing today, first inning homers for
Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman. Another win for Gavin Stone,
who we talked about on this show during spring training,
having a good spring. He's six and two eer two
(01:50:40):
point nine to zero for the Dodgers. Yankees won their
fifth in a row though four runs top of the
ninth to win at San Francisco seven to five, beating
closer Camillo devljan Soto had two home runs and the
save to Clay Holmes his seventeenth and Giant starting pitcher
Blake's noew left in the fifth inning looks like another
Groin entry. Seattle at Minnesota with wins. Tampa Bay won
(01:51:03):
at Baltimore four to three as the Orioles left thirteen
on base. Detroit came back for a ten inning win
at Boston eight to four. Atlanta three to one over Oakland,
holding the A's to just two hits. Brave's got a
run in the seventh run in the eighth. Rice Ellyglesias
is fifteenth save. Toronto and Texas with wins reds as well.
Washington won at Cleveland five to two, beating Carlos Carrasco
(01:51:25):
Arizona with a two run homer top of the ninth
from Kettel Martee is second of the game. They beat
the Mets five to four in New York Kansas City
with three runs bottom of the ninth, beat the Padres
four to three, and the White Sox have lost eleven
in a row. Lost at Milwaukee six three. Brewers have
won five straight. The White Sox record is now fifteen
and forty five. That's pretty good back to you.
Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
All right, thank you, Steve, you have a good week.
Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
My friend Jason Martin in for Chris play Cambarti spad
you're radio on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
On Twitter, they had that video of Aaron Rodgers sitting
down after doing some exercises, taking off his shoe and
then his sock, looking at his foot. I'm saying, is
he looking at his achilles or something something bothering him?
Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
Already?
Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
We haven't even started contact. I know he's out and about,
you know, making the rounds at events and stuff like that.
I don't buy that a quarterback just south of forty
is gonna bounce back from an injury like this, especially
in the division where Miami pretty much has it wrapped
up in. The Buffalo Bills are a damn good team. Also,
they're gonna be one two. The only thing in their
(01:52:27):
favor is the Patriots just stink and probably not even
gonna win four to five games this year. I don't
think Rogers is in for a good year. I don't
think he could bounce back, man. I don't care how
much hyahuasca or whatever it's called that he takes. I
just don't think is gonna be able to.
Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Work it out.
Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
You can't come back from an injury that easy like
he plans on doing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
Yeah, I mean at his age, we just got to see.
We're just not gonna know. They have what the Monday
night game again to open the season, right, is that right?
So they're setting it right up for you if they want.
But him, you know, taking off the shoe in the
sock and there's the camera for it. It's we saw
(01:53:09):
a lot of quarterbacks go down last year. We see
a lot of quarterbacks go down every year. He was
one of them last year. Is it gonna be one
of them this year? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
I don't know wish she goes down or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
I just you know, when you saw that that video,
if you were a Jet fan, it just about wants
to make you sick. When you see that, you're thinking, man,
could that be an injury or something? And I did
want to ask you because we didn't have a chance
to get to this yesterday, about that gold medal wrestler
that's tried out for the Bills, Steves whether they gave
Stevenson or Steveson Gabel. Steveson okay, never played any football whatsoever?
Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
Right, right?
Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
Two hundred and sixty pounds and what six feet?
Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
Yeah, I mean he's a big guy.
Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
Well that's not that big for a football, is.
Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
It, No, But I mean general population. I mean he's
a monstrous guy. But like the part of this that
I don't know you wouldn't know unless you knew, is
he was in WWE and it didn't work. He didn't
have the personality they needed when they put them on television.
(01:54:13):
They put him in a in a major live event
spot and he flopped.
Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Oh geez.
Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
He just wasn't there. He didn't have what it took.
And sometimes you do and sometimes you don't. Sometimes you'll
bring in an amateur guy like a brock Lesner and
he turns into one of the all time greats in
terms of what you were able to do from him
from a money standpoint, or you do that with a
Kurt Angle or something like that. But with Gable Steveson,
it didn't work. And I think the reason why this
(01:54:41):
has worked in the past, like you've seen some champion
wrestlers end up I think one ended up on the
Patriots years ago, and of course Brock actually went out
for the Vikings. I mean Gable Steveson might be an
incredible athlete. When you look at this from the Bills perspective,
it's probably pretty low risk because if it doesn't work,
you just move on or.
Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
The practice squad.
Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
I mean there's right, Yeah, there's so many people on
the practice squad.
Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
If he's if it doesn't work, it's not like you're
paying him a ton of money, right, You're just giving
him an opportunity to come in see what he's got.
And I've seen no harm, no foul in that. If
it doesn't work, then you won't see Gable Steveson wearing
a Bills uniform. But I just look at him, it's like, well,
good for him. It just didn't work out in WWE.
It just some guys click with it and some guys don't.
(01:55:26):
And it's hard to tell before the fact sometimes who's
got it and who doesn't in that universe, and it
just it never worked. And so I hope this one
goes better for him.
Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Yeah, I'll be keeping my eye eye on it, and
I want to see how far he goes and if
he's able to go ahead and make the team or
have to put him on the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
All right, we're gonna come back.
Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
We'll give our predictions for the NBA finals, and we
got the Stanley Cup Finals, so we'll do that and
we'll get to any finishing stories before we get out
of here. Chase and Martin for Chris Pike and Martie Spanier.
This is Fox Sports Radio, all right, Relive at the
TIREC dot Com studios. I got affect the crew. They
tell me my producer's name is Patrick Patrick. So thanks
(01:56:08):
to Patrick for whatever he did.
Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
Wow, it finally happened.
Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Well, they told me, they told me that's your name,
So I'm just going with what they're telling me. Thanks
to Eminem that's Mary Macheck, my technical director out there.
Also thanks to Jason Martin from Philading for Chris Plank.
We had to do the shows the last couple of days.
Torres had the night off yesterday. By the way, what
is it with Torres putting a picture of Warrior's vacation
(01:56:35):
but they won't tell anybody where he's at. It's obviously Hawaii.
It's not some secret destination that nobody's ever seen or
heard of, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
What what is that? Boloney?
Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Jason Torres is a unique drink of water. Yeah, he
sent me a photo because he wanted me to see
like something that had happened on draft night when he
was at his wedding or something like that. And so
the photo has got like him and his groomsmen or
whatever there, and he's like blacked out the faces of everybody.
(01:57:06):
But then in the photo, I'm like, I understand why
you do this on tighter, but what am I? What
do you me?
Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Why why are you? Why are we going full on?
Like you know, this is the courtroom and I'm the witness,
and you've got the blue dot over me? Like, I'm
not gonna do anything with the photo. Aaron, you could
just send me the original. I don't even know the guys.
Maybe I did. Maybe maybe that's what it is. Maybe
I didn't know the guys, But it's just kind of
like the only person that I actually could see the
(01:57:34):
face of in the photo that it wasn't like blacked
out was Aaron. And I was just like, I don't
know if I should be offended by this.
Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
I love that it's always like so quiet, special mission
keeping secret. I mean, first of all, you live in
La Why do you fly from the ocean to another
place so you can go to the ocean.
Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
I don't understand that that why an ocean. Well, you're
you're on the beach there.
Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
He has the same oce and you're at the beach anyway,
so what are you doing? It doesn't make any sense.
And also thanks to Seger for doing the updates, so
we always appreciate that. All right, give us a little music.
Let's get to some picks before we get out of here. Obviously,
we start with the NBA Finals, Dallas at Boston. I'm
rooting for Dallas. I've come to that realization. I want
(01:58:25):
to see the Mavericks win. And I think the Mavericks
do win, They're gonna have to win it at home.
I think they win it in six. Too tough to
win a game seven on the road in Boston. So
and I think it's gonna be a good series. There'll
be some close games out there, so high scoring two.
I think it's like the one to fifteens or higher.
So give me the MAVs in six.
Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
See, I tend to think you're right. The Celtics. The
Celtics are the one team we've heard this now for
several months. Yeah, if they don't win the championship. It's
been a failure a season, right because it's been them
the whole year. It's been them in that conference. They
whatever you want to say, They certainly didn't get full
(01:59:09):
strength versions of the teams that they face going into
the playoffs. They've got guys that's just like, is it
finally going to be your time to win all of
it now? Or are you're gonna find a way to
fall short again? They're running into a red hot Mavericks team.
But they're the best team, Like the Celtics are the
best team, the deepest team, they play incredible defense, They're
the best three point shooting team in the league. Seems
(01:59:32):
like Vegas is on the side of the Boston Celtics
as well. So why is it that I find myself
thinking the same thing. You are right that this is
Lucas time and what him and Kyrie are doing and
what they've found with what they did at the trade
deadline with PJ Washington and hopefully Lively is going to
be good to go and Gafford and all these guys,
(01:59:52):
like they're all contributing on such a high level. If
Luca's gonna shoot like that, it may just be He's
better than everybody and right now you can't stop him.
So I am so torn right now because I think
the Celtics are the better team, but I think they
might be finding the Mavericks at the wrong time. You know.
Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
I definitely like the Mavericks plus the six and a
half in Game number one, and I know the overs
two fourteen and a half, so I'll probably, like I said,
I'm gonna go with the over. And I don't think
I forgot about betting twenty to one that Kyrie might
be named the MVP. Take Dallas, Yeah, thousand and seven.
Gotta win it on the road, my friend. You gotta
win it on the road, do it. Thanks to Jason Martin,
(02:00:34):
my friend, for filling on in. I certainly appreciate that.
You know who's coming up next on Shaw Big Ben
Mallord Live from the weekend. We'll see what he's got
on his plate. All that coming up next here on
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