Brian Noe, Rich Ohrnberger, and Jared Smith talk Finals, Hurley, WNBA Gatekeeping, CFP Schedule and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh, good morning, what is going on? You know what fellas?
I am in the big Apple right now? How do
I sound? Do I sound different?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Pretty good? I thought you were a la.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Do I sound crisp?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah? You sound like you're perfect prestige. That's what I
like to hear right there.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I wanted to make sure you're hearing me and crystal
clear audio here because I've been working all morning on
my impression heading into Game one of the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Okay, this is largely what you heard, all right.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
We love the MAVs.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
They've got two closers, they've had away tougher playoff path.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas. Is that pretty much on point rail?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
And then they go out.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
And get pumped in Game one? Oh that was just beautiful.
I love when the the big mob right, like the
mainstream opinion is dead freaking wrong and they scored eighty
nine points. That's one of the things, man, That's one
of the things about Vegas and the books. Unemotional, you know, unemotional.

(01:15):
Based on what the playoff pats were, the spread was
six and a half. That might have felt a little
heavy heading in and then you blink and Boston wins
by eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, I think, Look, there's a lot of ham handed
betters who bet with their hearts and not with their brains.
But if you watched Boston, and I use this reference
on my weekday show, we were talking about it last weekend,
Boston kind of looked like they went through the playoffs

(01:45):
playing with their food. You know, it really did look
like they were a better team than they were showing Dallas.
I mean, Dallas was surviving Dallas at times, even with
their two stars. There were games where the expenditure felt
very real, the tacks felt like it was draining the
account at times for them to survive him in advance.

(02:09):
It never felt like survival with Boston. It never felt
they they eked out wins. There's no doubt there were
nights where it felt like it was dicey. But but
Boston I didn't feel they had to press themselves to
get to the final, which, by the way, that builds
confidence too. A lot of people concentrated on the fact
that in game they would have struggles, which obviously you're

(02:34):
playing professional basketball, of course you're gonna have struggles in game,
but over series. I don't think mentally they ever felt threatened.
And when you're not threatened, you walk into a final,
especially with as much rest as they had, feeling like
the Alpha. Well, I'll tell you what they played like
the Alpha. Dallas was not ready for that.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, the biggest takeaway for me game one was first
Porzingis and him beat back on the floor and just
the amount of depth that Boston now has, where Jason Tatum,
who admitted after the game he was a little bit
nervous and you know, wide eyed in the moment, kind
of took a step back and didn't have to really
score a whole lot. I mean he took sixteen shots,

(03:17):
he only made six of them, and it sounds like
a lot, but for him it's not. And I think
when you have a guy like Porzingis who comes back
and plays his official I mean it was one of
the most efficient Finals games ever in terms of scoring
twenty points in twenty one minutes. I mean, that's that's
hard to do. Excuse me, the opposite twenty No, I

(03:38):
was sorry, twenty points in twenty one minutes, highly efficient,
Thirteen shots came off the bench very quickly, came off
the bench. But that was another surprise early, right, we
thought Porzing, he's never been a bench guy, came off
the bench. So we'll see out how now that if
that changes in game two, if he's still a sixth man,
or or if he takes back over that starting role
for al Horford. But then the other part to reach

(04:01):
your point about, you know, survive in advance, Dallas made
a push in the third quarter. They got it to eight,
and you thought, all right, maybe this is gonna be
a game. But whenever Boston was pushed in the game,
they just kind of put the accelerator down and said
see you later. So like it's almost like they got

(04:21):
out to the big lead and then they kind of
went into cruise control and they just kind of floated
for a quarter or two, and then mid third quarter
when Dallas made their run, Boston was like, all right,
now we've got to start playing again. And the reason
I bring this up, and Brian, I think you can
expand on this, it is rare that a team has
the ability to just flip the switch. We say that

(04:43):
all the time, Oh, you can't just flip the switch on. Well,
maybe this Boston team can, right because it happened against Indiana.
They were pushed multiple times and they frankly should have
lost the one, two, maybe three of those games. But
they were able to just flip on the defense at
a moment's snow and get across the finish line. And
I think that's what separates them this year from prior

(05:05):
to Boston teams.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well yeah, and that's where it leads to. The scrutiny
for Boston was way over the top. And that's the thing.
This isn't a victory lap just yet. It was Game one.
It was a really impressive Game one performance, but the
series isn't over yet. But the focus heading into the

(05:27):
finals was all about Boston's weaknesses, which I thought was silly.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
You got to look at the strengths as well.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's like it was a little bit like Cindy Crawford's mole,
You know what I mean, You're just focused on the
mole instead of she is a supermodel, right, like she's gorgeous. Yeah,
but the mole though, Let's focus on the mole. That's
what the talk was about with Boston. It was about
the deficiencies instead of the strengths.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
It was all about.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Hey, there was no Jimmy Butler, There was no Dobovan
Mitchell for a couple of games. There was no Haliburton
for a couple of games. And you just mentioned the
guy poor Zingis Jared right, Like poor Zingis was sensational
in game one, and heading in if it was like
a if you've got a newspaper in front of you,
and sometimes they have the full page ads. The full

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page ad would have been what Boston isn't doing well?
And then at the and the stars that weren't playing
against Boston, and then in like little tiny print it
was like, yeah, Boston has some strengths to and Perzingis
missed a bunch of games as well, Like it was
just completely glossed over, and that's gonna make a big

(06:37):
difference that already has in this series. Getting Porzingis back, Yeah,
getting Porzingis back it is a little bit like the
secret weapon.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Because these playoffs are long, you don't have film on
a guy.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Basically in the postseason.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
He exited week one of Boston's postseason.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
That's forty days away from the next postseason. Oh yeah,
I mean for a month.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
It's crazy, it's absolutely insane. And then he comes on
the court, and he looks at fresh. Credit to Boston,
credit to porzingis having their guy ready and trusting him
fully to get back out there and do what he did,
because twenty minutes off the bench, that's a good chunk
and that can wear at you. And so I'm sure
that conversation was ongoing, especially after the first quarter where

(07:24):
he really gave Boston a shot in the arm and
helped catapult them to a lead that they would never
relent relinquish again. Look, Boston, it really does feel like
a team where I don't want to say team of destiny,
but there's this vibe about Boston where they're angry, they're

(07:45):
downtrodden from past playoff losses. They're playing against an emotional foe,
Kyrie Irving. Obviously there's history there between he and the
fan base, you know, so you're.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Gonna have the full voice.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Of the fan base when you're in the garden behind
you because they don't want to see that guy have success.
And I think that translated to the court. I mean, look,
Porzing has had three blocks. We talk about his offense,
and he was incredibly efficient offensively, but how about the
fact that he affected three shots and he probably had
an effect on a handful more.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Just his presence in the low.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Post, and he's not known for his great defense, but
he's long and he's in the way, and I think that.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Really that perturbed Kyrie's play.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
And then on top of it, Kyrie Man, he played
completely differently than he played in other games.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
We were talking about the evolution of Kyrie Irving last weekend,
how he's become a much more unselfish player, much more
self aware human being. It seems like the way he
expresses himself in interviews and some of the things he've
said about being with the Mavericks, and how he sort
of compartmentalizes what's happened in his past, especially with Boston,

(09:06):
and then he goes out there and it looks like
old Kyrie. You know, the best shot is my shot.
I'm not gonna look for the open man because they
trust myself above everybody. And he had an off shooting night,
and defensively they put the clamps on him. Luca got
his points, Kyrie got shut down, and Dallas really struggled
because he couldn't see the cord.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
He got stuck in his own head. It felt like
to assist was the lowest in the whole postseason for him, Yeah,
the entire post So he's averaging like six in the postseason,
he averaged almost five in the in the t Wool series,
he averaged over six in the Thunder series, and then
right at five, so he was he's like five and
a half in the playoffs. Two in this game. Yeah,

(09:47):
that was a big story. But you know, now to
Brian's original point, well, the narrative now flips. Now Boston's
the big public chalk in game two and getting a
lot of the handle, and we're seeing a number push
seven and a half at bet MGM, which is a
little bit higher than what we saw the other night.
And now you've got to make the decision is it

(10:09):
was it a one game blow up or was that
you know, did that third quarter for Dallas give you
hope that they can at least make this series competitive
because I think if they lose by double digits, you know,
fifteen twenty again on Sunday, you know, this is we're
going to really start the question, Hey, can can Dallas

(10:29):
E win a game in this series? I think they will.
I think I think Game two will be tighter. I
think their offense was about as were as bad as
their offense is. I has looked the whole postseason, and
I would expect it to look a little bit better.
It was the fewest amount of assists I think Lucas
ever had too. I mean, I saw some like crazy

(10:50):
historical type numbers on the low assists for Dallas in
that game, and it goes completely against what they've done
the whole playoffs. So Jason Kid's got his work cut
out for him. They have an extra day, right, They
had that weird. I hate when they do this Thursday Sunday,
But I think that favors Dallas making some adjustments. I

(11:10):
think that does give Kyrie a chance to catch his breath.
He looked like he was a little bit, you know,
overwhelmed by the moment. And do I think Dallas gonna
win Game two? No? But would I be shocked if
they covered. I would not be shocked if they covered
Game two.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
No, I hear you on that.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I think what's funny is from Dallas's point of view,
Game one, you just flush it right.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
It was a disaster.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
You're trailing by twenty one at halftime, you lose by eighteen.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Kyrie stunk, you know what I mean, like just flush it.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
And then then after Game one, Kyrie was asked about
the Celtics crowd and he goes, I thought it was
gonna be a little louder in here. Oh no, no, Kyrie,
it can follow you toward game two.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
But I hear you. I think that makes sense. I
like Boston in game two. But seven and a half
points is that's high?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Right?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
And this is Dallas that you know they're gonna punch back,
and you know this is a very important game. So
plus seven and a half you take a closer look
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So the Lakers doing more than flirting with Yukon head
coach Dan Hurley.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
They have met with him.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Uh, They've invited Dan Hurley over to their place, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Like this is beyond here.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
What's going on with the Lakers in Hurley and he's
going to take the weekend to mole the job offer.
He is reportedly fifty to fifty about either going to
the Lakers or staying at Yukon. And so the question is,
would this be a good idea for Dan Hurley to
take the Lakers gig? And I just look at this

(14:23):
and my view is, in the moment, it would be
a great move.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
He goes to the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Storied franchise, he's coaching Lebron. Whoa, this is a major
power move. But then you look at it and you're like, well,
they're not winning a title next season. Lebron is almost forty.
What's the plan post Lebron? You know, how are you
going to build that thing back up? Are you just
going to rely on the Lakers brand and hopefully land
a big free agent. I think it'd be a lot

(14:53):
of sizzle in the moment initially, and then you look
at it and you're like, Okay, the honeymoon's over. We
are ma work to do, and it's not gonna be
the easiest thing to build that thing back up. I
just don't think it's long term the splash that it
would be in the short term if he takes this gig.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
I don't disagree with you and I also think that
he's going to be saddled with some really difficult decisions
to make during Lebron James's time with the Lakers and after,
because if things go well for the Lakers after he signs,
you're going to be there for one of the roughest
transitions in NBA history when Lebron decides to retire, which

(15:35):
I would assume is going to be sometime during or
after his next contract. So you're signing up for a
lot if you're Dan Hurley. Frankly, you're signing up for
a lot if you're any coach. And I think that
the Lakers. I don't believe in the theory that JJ
Reddick was just a smoke screen. I think there was
much more to that story, and I think we'll hear

(15:56):
much more about that from JJ Reddick's perspective after the
NBA Final. I think he's gonna I think he's gonna
give us a little bit more insight into exactly how
deep those conversations went with the Lakers organization.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Out of respect for the.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Network he works for now, I think he's trying to
make the storyline about Boston and Dallas instead of about himself.
In terms of NBA storylines, and I've got a lot
of respect for him for that, but there may be
a lot of misinformation floating around as a result of
him staying quiet. Here my thought on this, and give

(16:33):
me what you think about this theory, is I'm fairly
certain that Lebron James really liked the idea of having
JJ Reddick as the next Lakers head coach. But my
guess is the Lakers said, yeah, but Lebron, we're not
willing to pay him whatever he wants, So we're gonna
need JJ Reddick on a bargain if we're gonna take

(16:55):
the risk of signing a JJ Reddick. And I'm sure
JJ Redick was looking at his current situation where you know,
he does podcasts left and right. You know, he's a
big time color analyst in the sport, you know, one
of the top.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Guys doing it. Does he really want to sacrifice all that.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
For all the smoke he'll receive for being the Lakers
at coach, Because that is a thankless position. If you
do well, if you have success, all the credit and
praise goes to Lebron James. If you struggle, you're gonna
be scapegoaded. Just like Frank Vogel, just like Darvin Ham.
So is that really what you want, especially when you

(17:32):
live such a charmed life as one of the most intelligent,
albeit sometimes characterized as arrogant analysts.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Covering the NBA.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
I mean, I think the problem was the rub where
the friction was was JJ Redick was probably saying, listen,
you're gonna have to pay me a mountain of money
to get me to take on this position. And I
think when things became a little tenuous with that contract
conversation and they had.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
To move on.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
And don't get me wrong, I think the Lakers as
an organization need to look forward to maybe what's next
after Lebron And that could have had something to do
with the interest in Dan Hurley, who clearly is a
culture creator who's good at working with young people in
this league is getting ever younger or it's part and

(18:23):
parcel because Lebron James knows that Bronni Junior is going
to come to the NBA with very little playing experience
at the college level, and he wants an elite college
coach to be his mentor and his basketball coach for
the time that he's there with him and potentially for
the time after he decides to hang up the basketball

(18:43):
shoes for good.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about the Reddick stuff.
I mean, my gut instinct was smoke screen. And then
I was like, all right, well, that's like the obvious answer,
and it's like an Okham's razor, right, Usually the most
the obvious answer is usually the correct one because when
the when the Hurley stuff, Because I don't have the
contacts that you know, some other people at the network

(19:05):
do behind the scenes in the NBA, So I don't
know really what's going on, but I'm pretty good at
analyzing the news cycle, and I thought the way that
the news cycle presented us this story, they presented it
to us like Reddick was the smoke screen to get,
you know, the Lakers to up the offer to Hurley.
And then all of a sudden, we hear this whopper

(19:26):
of a number out of nowhere at a left field
and that felt like the winner, right, that felt like
the real story. So that was my gut instinct. I
think when I look at the story on its surface level, Brian,
what you said makes a ton of sense. The Lakers
have to start planning for the post Lebron Era and

(19:47):
I can count on one hand, probably two fingers. The
teams in the NBA that are built on culture. The
heat are the first one that come to mind, right,
That's like the obvious one that hits you on the head.
I think the Knicks are starting to build it with Tibbs.
I think this year we saw the flashes of the culture.
But outside of that, is there a team in the

(20:09):
league that has a culture established? I don't think so.
I don't think that's how the NBA has really played today.
So maybe this is the Lakers saying, listen, we need
to make a splash. We need to change the culture
of our locker room. We need to start planning for
what's happening after this unbelievably talented player eventually succumbs to

(20:32):
father time. Because we all do. And this makes sense,
Like this move, this move makes sense to me. If
Dan Hurley is ready to cash in his chips, maybe
he's not right. Billy Donovan waited like ten years after
going back to back with Florida to go to the NBA.
I think it was like twenty fourteen or something. It
was several years after they won a Florida Danz is like, hey,

(20:56):
I'm good, I want back to back. You're not going
to have a higher ceiling than that in college basketball.
I don't think they're going back to back to back.
If they do, that would be absolutely absurd. And so
this it makes sense, right. The timing is right, the
Lebron timing is right, He's in the twilight, Danny Hurley's
at the peak. Its just all of those things kind

(21:17):
of fit together. And then the news cycle really whacked
you on the head with this story. So I would
put Danny Hurley right now in the chair and anyone
else would be an upset to me.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, I think that the headline is funny to me,
where it says Yukon's current offer would make Dan Hurley
the third highest paid college basketball headcat, It's like, you
gotta step your game up, Ukon, Come on.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
It ain't exactly you know, you know park boardwalk here.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, the Lakers are pounding on his door. We gotta
make him the top guy. He's the next guy up.
This is like a quarterback in the NFL. I look
at it like this. I think if he doesn't go
what's read into it, it's gonna be pretty interesting because think
about Jim Harbaugh. It's a legitimate comparison, right, Jim Harbaugh

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had a lot of success. He just want a championship
at Michigan. He got an offer to go back to
the NFL and he took it. He's back in the
NFL coaching the Chargers. And if you look at Dan Hurley,
if he says, now, I'm gonna stay here at Yukon,
and you know, it's gonna be taking the high road.
It's what we've built here and this, you know, championship

(22:32):
formula and blah blah blah blah, all that type of stuff.
He's not gonna sit here and tell you, yeah, I
just don't think the Lakers gig is the right move,
you know.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
But that could be the reason.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I just think if he stays in Yukon, a lot
of people will look at this and say, oh, he's
comfortable in college. He doesn't want the challenge and the
demands of being an NBA head coach. It could be
that he just doesn't think the Lakers gig is the
right long term move. But he's not gonna say that
if indeed he does stay. But believe me, that's what's

(23:06):
going to be read into it. If he stays well.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Also, I think I really do think that there there
is a money problem for the Lakers. Like you got
to remember, these are businesses, and they're the business is
booming when you're winning championships, you know, because I mean,
you can increase your rate on everything. You know, advertisers

(23:29):
are kicking in your door to have access to your
players and your brand. Well, the Lakers since the Bubble Championship,
they haven't done much at anything.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Now, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
A Western Conference Final isn't nothing, it's something, But that's
a title town. If you're not coming home with a
banner that you can raise to the rafters, the city
kind of collectively shrugs. And so I think you're in
a position where a lot of coaches out there who
are targeted, you know, like a Jimmy Harbaugh, like coming

(24:01):
back to the NFL, jim Harball was going to be
able to name his price with most franchises, and he
had a pretty good situation in Michigan, albeit it did
sort of feel like Operation avoid collegiate scrutiny a lah
Pee Carroll leaving USC when the scene was really hot
for Pete Carroll at the college level, I mean, there

(24:22):
was a lot of you know, hey, are we recruiting
the right way at Southern California? Does anybody know how
they got all of the good players?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Are we sure that that Reggie Bush was the only
one you know who's who family members were getting special Truman?
Was there anybody you know? So Pete was like, all right,
see you laters. Seattle seems like a nice city.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
I kind of feel like Jim Harborough might have been
a different boat than Dan Hurley. But still speaking specifically
to the Lakers, I look at Dan Hurley as being
in the cat bird seat like the Lakers. That's not
as a a gleaming position as it would be if

(25:04):
Lebron was ten years younger, where there was no end
in sight, you know. I mean, you're talking about a
franchise that's literally got their heels backed up against the cliff.
Lebron James what he says goes with that organization, including
going after Dan Hurley in the first place. That's a

(25:27):
b You're gonna be making the transition from the college
game to the pro game, and if you get sniffed
out as not ready for this position the first year
you're there, You're gonna lose a tremendous amount of respect
in those circles, especially in that locker room with a
veteran of twenty years of the game at the Helm,
and then.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
See what happens after Lebron. I think that. I basically
think that these coaches.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
If they're wanted by the Lakers, they're able to come
back to them and say I want an obscene amount
of money otherwise I'm not moving. I mean because Dan Hurley,
like you said, Brian, he could go back and say, Hey.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's all about the culture we built here in you
card JJ Reddick.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
He could go back to his job with a microphone
and say, hey, you know, this is what I've always
wanted to do post career, and this is what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
You know, you have the perfect excuse.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
I think the Lakers are in a tough spot right
now trying to hire somebody worthwhile.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, I'll be honest, I think this and it is
a lot about Dan Hurley obviously. I think this story
is a lot about Lebron too. And I think it's
kind of like a dual headline. It's like you can
you can write the headline two different ways, like let's
just say, let's let's fast forward to a future. It
could be tomorrow, could be today, it could be in

(26:43):
an hour. Who knows, maybe a good don't think during
the show that the ink is dry and they're signing
a contract. You could write the headline two ways you
could write it. Lakers sign Dan Hurley to mammothic, you know,
contract to be head coach or Laker formulate post Lebron
plan like like to me, the headline is twofold because

(27:06):
if they signed Dan Hurley to a ten year deal
whatever it is, they are telling you that they are
They are showing you their hand in their post Lebron plan,
right like after World War Two they did like the treaty, right,
and they signed the big treaty after all the wars, right,
and I remember the Revolutionary War was a Treaty of

(27:26):
Paris Ben Franklin. They showed you all their plans. This
is how we're gonna, you know, make everything happy again.
That's what the Lakers are doing here. If they do
go in this direction, they are telling you that we
have been in an era now with Lebron where the
culture has been Lebron. Now we have to change that
culture and get back to team basketball fundamentals, all the

(27:49):
things that made us frankly great in the seventies and
the eighties, and now you've you've got to kind of
go back to that. And it's a little bit of
a throwback maybe to Phil Jackson too. And I know
he had Jack and Cobe, but you know, Phil Jackson's
a very fundamental, logical coach like that, Like that's kind
of his his vibe. He was a tough coach too,
And I know that the personalities are different, obviously, but

(28:12):
it kind of feels like that where Phil Jackson had
a lot of star power even though they had Jack
at go, Like Phil Jackson still had a lot of
star power in LA. The coach still commanded a lot
of that star power. And I think that's what we
would be going back to if the Lakers decide to
make this move.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
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(28:51):
you've got the New York Giants.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
You know those.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Ugly, awful, hideous throwback uniforms, this scent three red uniforms
where it looks like they're wearing khakis. They're gonna debut
those uniforms in week one. It's awful they're rolling them
out and oh, nothing says the season is already over.

(29:16):
Oh yeah, like those uniforms, well, well, nothing.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Says the season's over. Like we need to get our most.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Prime merchandise rolling out week one of the season because
that's gonna be the last time we're at an even
record and in the right diretget because I I if
there is a team in the NFL who's had a
more head scratching offseason than the Giants, point to them.
I mean, the Giants lost their best offensive player. They're

(29:44):
sticking with Danny Dimes, which, okay, I get it to
a greater or lesser degree. It is a business, after all,
and it's a business decision sticking with a guy you
just recently re upped. But I mean, there's been nothing interesting,
even remotely interesting that they've done in terms of you know,

(30:05):
coaching hires or you know, player acquisition that leads you
to believe this upcoming season is gonna go better than last.
It almost feels like either the Marrow family is satisfied saying, Okay,
you know what, we're probably gonna fire this coach because
things aren't gonna go well. It's gonna be wholesale changes

(30:28):
around here after this upcoming season, or they've placed enough
faith in Brian Dable that they're saying to him, hey, listen,
if you tank this season, we want you to rebuild
with a different quarterback. We believe that you can. And
so it's a it's a let's work with what we
have here this year situation, and then let's let's go

(30:50):
out there in twenty twenty five and find the quarterback
of the future. It's one or the other, because it
doesn't look like they've put much effort into putting together
the rest sped to make a great stew here.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, I think the stew is kind of what it
looks like on the back end with their uniforms. Right
after you eat the stew that's what their uniforms look like.
When I look at their schedules. I refer to the
matrix they are, they're only they're only favorite. So maybe
that's why they wanted to do it, guys, because they're

(31:24):
favored in week one, it's a they're a slight favorite,
you know, they're they're at home against Minnesota. It's not
like they're a big favorite, but right now they're at
least somewhat projected to win that game. And then things
get really tough because they're basically a three point or
more underdog in their next one, two, three, four, five,
six seven games. And then they're a favorite again at
home in week nine, small favorite against Washington, so decent chance.

(31:49):
They start one in seven, decent chance one and six.
Like they're like they're staring one in six, one and
seven right in the face. Their buy is not until
week eleven. They do get a couple of games there
against Carolina and Washington in weeks nine to ten where
they can at least maybe get some momentum going into
their bye week. But yeah, like, besides New England, who

(32:13):
I am very close to pulling, Like I'm gonna bet
the first bet. I'll tell you, guys, when I bet it,
it'll be New England's under win total. The second bet
I make for the offseason win totals will probably be
the Giants.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
This is my favorite comment. So this is maleak Neighbors, right,
top ten rookie wide receiver, right new Giant Sky, you know,
and here's what he says about these hideous uniforms.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Check it out. It's gonna be hard to swag it out.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
It's gonna be hard to swag it out. That's how
ugly I'm gonna do my best. It's gonna be hard
to look cool in these hideous uniforms. And compare that
to another wide receiver, also from LSU, Justin Jefferson of
the Vikings. So the Vikings later in the year, this
will be in December, they'll have their icy white uniforms.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
They call them the Winter Warrior uniforms.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
They look kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Compare what Maleikue Neighbors said about the Giant sucky uniforms
to what Justin Jefferson says about the Vikings clean uniforms. Okay,
a lot different, a lot of different reaction.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
There between the two. I love that. That's funny stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
All right.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
We got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American Jared Smith
FSR betting analyst.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
I'm Brian No.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Coming up next, Jared has been hard working in the lab. Okay,
smoke is billowing out. He has constructed a parlay platter
that is a bit international today, so he'll unveil that.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Coming up.

Speaker 2 (33:45):

Speaker 3 (33:54):
We have no time to waste. Let's do this.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Check this outlay.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Okay, Jared Smith, you have been hard at work.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
We are all ears. What do you have for us today?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Well, let's go to foggy London town and I apologize
for all the after the British people that I offended
with that terrible let's not more Irish to me. I
have no idea. I am not I'm not good. I
have a fantastic radio voice. It's terrible impersonation's terrible accent.
So I again, it's not my job on the show.
It's hopefully to win bets. But there's a game happen.

(34:27):
He's actually two games happening in London this weekend, one today,
one tomorrow. It's the London Series. This is the third
iteration of the London Series. Of course, twenty twenty was
canceled to the COVID, and then they kind of took
a couple of years off, and then all of a sudden,
we're back last year. So I remember, if you guys
can recall, in twenty nineteen, it was like a bandbox

(34:48):
the stadium. It was Yankees Red Sox. The first game
was seventeen thirteen, a crazy high scoring, second game a
little bit lower scoring twelve eight. Then they had the
COVID year, then a couple of years off. Then in
twenty three last year, Brian, I'm sure you remember Cubs Cardinals,
they moved the dimensions back. So all of a sudden
you saw three eighty seven in the power alleys, three

(35:09):
ninety two to center. So still relatively small, and it's
the game is being totaled like it's a you know,
kind of at like cors Field, so to say, it's
not an altitude, but it's a very small dimensions, but
not as small as before. And I think there is
still a hair of value to the under here. So
we're gonna do a little same game parlay. We're gonna
take the first five under five and a half. We're

(35:30):
gonna take the under for the full game. Ten, and
then we're gonna pair that with Sean Manaiah the starting
pitcher of the Mets, to go under fifteen and a
half out, So the under for the game and the
full and the first five total. That's pretty self explanatory,
right We we think that the Dimensions are playing a
little bit more fair than they were back in twenty nineteen.
And also, frankly, Ranger Suarez on the mound for Philly

(35:52):
today is one of the best pitchers in Baseball one
point seven ERA, and he's coming off a weird start
where he got a hit with a line drive only
pitch two innings against the Cardinals last time out, so
he's very well rested. And also the Phillies are an
underteam eight one to one in their last ten to
the under and overall profitable to the under this season.
Sean Mania under fifteen and a half outs, this is

(36:14):
hitting seven of eleven starts this year. And the Phillies
are really good against lefties. They take a lot of pitches,
very high walk rate. And the Mets haven't played a
game since Wednesday. How often in season do you have
four days off? What ye haven't played since Wednesday? Thursday?
Actually shoos me three days off Thursday, Friday, and now Saturday,
the third day they are playing a game, so the

(36:35):
bullpen is going to be well rested. I think the
Mets will showcase the bullpen today. Mania will not pitch
past the fifth inning. If you throw all three of
those bets together under five and a half in the
first five under ten for the full game, Sean Manyah
under fifteen and a half outs five to one over
at bet MGM. Not too shabby for a three game,

(36:56):
three team parlay that I think is pretty highly correlated.
Do you like baseball? Like when when you think about like, no,
I know, I feel miserable.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Like I hear it in your voice because I hear
the way you the gusto you deliver a college football
pick with or an NFL pick.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I hear the bravado you.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Speak with when you talk about college basketball, especially tournament
time or the NBA, And then I hear you talk
about baseball and you are really like You're like, Okay,
I'm going.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
To stat all over you people, and you're gonna have
to deal with it. You watch these games, right, Rich, Oh,
because you watch a lot of Padres games. Oh yeah,
baseball is the most random.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Oh sport.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Oh, I have lost on the most ridiculous things, way
more ridiculous than other sports, Brian. I mean, you've been
watching the Cardinals for the last few years, you've probably
been pretty upset.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Oh, yeah, it is. It's such a random sport.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's the thing is when it works against you, it's
the worst thing ever.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
You know what it works for you?

Speaker 3 (37:57):
You kind of like gloss over it.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Right to take the good with the bad? You really do?
You just do. And also you gotta know what you
can control and what you can't, and you just have
to not let the things you can't control affect you.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
It was crazy. I was doing a show last week
with Jeff Schwartz.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
He took Blake Snell, the Giants pitcher, under total outs
outs recorded, and he needed one more out for his
bet to lose. He had to come out of the
game with a groin strain.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, that'll do it.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
He won based on that's crazy. Coming up next. This
is the worst way to welcome new customers. Oh, what's
going on? Everybody? Happy Saturday morning to you. You know, Uh,
I'll tell you what the WNBA is on the brain again?

Speaker 3 (38:43):
What's going on here? And I think some interesting layers.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
So the first thing I wanted to throw at you
guys and everybody listening is I find this to be
really interesting where there are some former players and current
players that are saying, hey, hey, don't talk about this
Caitlin Clark controversy where she got fouled hard by Kennedy Carter.

(39:08):
Don't talk about that unless you really know the league
and the players and you've been watching for a number
of years. Are we really doing this right now? Like
Monica McNutt, who does a great job for ESPN, she
told Stephen A. Smith, Hey, you could have been talking
WNBA more than three years ago if you wanted to.

(39:29):
And it's like, first off, your ratings were in the toilet,
no one was watching, right, Like it made sense to
not talk about the WNBA. Thankfully for the league. Thanks
have changed. Caitlin Clark comes in, superstar boom, lots of interest, ratings,
interest like, it's great where it is, But this idea

(39:51):
and this narrative that's out there where it's like, if
you haven't watched the WNBA religious for a minimum of
five years, then I don't want to hear your opinion
about the league that is so ridiculous to me. It'd
be like this, You tell me if this makes sense.
I'm thinking if you owned a restaurant, okay, and you're

(40:14):
not getting many customers. It's been a long time and
you're not getting any customers. You have tried and tried
and it's just not working. And then all of a
sudden you are getting flooded with people. You've got people
showing up. It's the buzz in town. We got to
try this new restaurant. And you you're not gonna be like, oh,

(40:34):
this is awesome. You're going to be like shaking your
finger at the customers and saying, wow, it's about time
you showed up. You could have showed up three years ago. Like, really,
is that what you're doing to your own customers. You're
working against yourself. You should just be happy they're here finally,
Like for whatever reason, they're here.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Good.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
But no, they're like, no, we want it on our
terms and it's overdue, and it's like that's not gonna
help you at all going forward.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Why are you looking at it like that?

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Do you guys remember when Apple decided for all of
us that we needed a U two album on our
phones Okay, hey, hey, WNBA, Like, is it cool if
we just watch Caitlin Clark for a while and we
decide if we want the album?

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Like, yeah, that's what this feels like.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
It feels like I'm being forced by the players and
the media who covers this game.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Like oh no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
If you want to use the iPhone, then you need
to listen to you too. It's like the hell I do.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I don't care about Angel Reese. I don't. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
She may think she's a superstar in my opinion, and
it's a humble opinion, who, by the way, has not
watched a full WNBA game yet, but has watched more
WNBA as a result of Caitlin Clark being in the
league than I ever have in my life. I don't
care about Angel rees I care about Caitlin Clark, and

(42:05):
that's my own prerogative. I am the consumer. I am
the tail that wags the dog. So if you want
the lights to stay on in the arenas, don't shove
me away, welcome me in with both arms, tell me
about your league, interest me in the other items for sale.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
You know, Apple didn't need to do that.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
You know, if people were going to stumble across you
two on their own and the iTunes store, well they
would have. We didn't need it jam down our neck.
As a matter of fact, as a result, that album tanked.
It became a joke, It became a meme. The WNBA.
They think they're helping themselves. These analysts who cover the

(42:51):
game think they're helping the league by championing the voices
of the voiceless for so long. Meanwhile, you're making yourself
a meme.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Don't do it.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
You're going down the wrong path. Embrace what Caitlin Clark's
don't for your sport.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Totally agree. I mean, I think it. There's a simple
term for it. It's called gatekeeping. Unfortunately, it's the uglier
side of the human emotional spectrum. It's jealousy, anger, rage,
all of those emotions kind of congealing into this don't

(43:29):
talk about my thing. And I deal with this a
lot in the gambling space. I dealt with this since
I started in the betting space back in twenty nineteen.
I'm not a professional gambler. News flash. I'm not Bill Krackenberger.
Love your crack, I'm not him. I don't have thousands
and thousands and thousands of dollars in my bankroll. I'm
not a professional better. I do not derive my income

(43:50):
from gambling. But I am on national TV and radio
every week talking about gambling. There are a lot of
professional gamblers that look at me and say the exact
same thing. Who's this guy? What is he doing talking
about my thing on TV? He's not allowed to do that.
He's not a professional gambler. Newsflash, you're not a professional broadcaster.

(44:14):
Just because you're good at gambling doesn't mean you can
talk about gambling on TV and radio. Those things are
mutually exclusive. Cracks one of the few that can do both.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Great.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I love getting his insights every week. But to bring
it back to the WNBA, just because you're not an
expert on the WNBA doesn't mean you're not an expert
on basketball or the trends that happen in professional sports
when new phenomenons come in. So I would say Stephen A.
Smith is an expert in that, and you know his

(44:45):
opinion and other media experts, media people's opinions on what's
happening in the WNBA and how it kind of compares
to the rest of the sports landscape. I think is
very relevant even if you haven't watched one second of
the WNBA. It's all part of this new wave of
superstar we're seeing in this league. And I don't think

(45:05):
Angel Reese is a superstar, but I think she is
a star. I think Cameron Brink, one of the other
young rookie sensations, is a star. They're not Patrick Mahomes,
but maybe they're Josh Allen, right, Like, I think that
is kind of how I compare this. And if there
are voices that have been covering the league for years

(45:26):
and years and years that are now upset that bigger
fish like Stephen a or swimming in the in the
WNBA pool, Brian, to your original point, it should be
all good because it means more attention for the league.
I tweeted this earlier this week. All I saw on
my feed this week was Caitlin Clark. Even if you
disagree with whatever's happening, or you know, whatever your opinion is,

(45:49):
that's net positive for the WNBA that they are in
the conversation. They have a seat at the table. That
should be the most important thing.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Absolutely, And it's just it's not it's not laying good groundwork.
If you're like took you long enough to finally pay attention,
And if you aren't watching game after game after game,
I don't want to hear your opinion. Really, what are
you doing right now? I caught something. This was Greenie, Okay,

(46:20):
Mike Greenberg. He was on Get Up, and he was
having a discussion with Rebecca Lobo and Monica McNutt about
the whole Caitlin Clark Kennedy Carter controversy. Kennedy Carter fouled
Caitlin Hard upgraded to a flagrant one. Lot of conversation
generated because of that. But listen to what Greenie says

(46:41):
based on the pushback of hey, this is our thing.
Like you just said, Jared, this is our thing. You
haven't covered the league. Get out with your opinions. Here
here's what Greene had to say.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
I'm not going to parachute into the middle of a
nuanced debate, in the middle of a sport that I
have not covered as extensively for the last thirty five
years as I have the NBA and the National Football
League and others, and start throwing out opinions based on
things that I've observed over the course of these last
three weeks.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
That is so weak.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
But that's what it turns into, is Okay, I guess
I shouldn't have an opinion based on what I've watched
and what I can gather here, even though I haven't
watched religiously for the last twenty five years or whatever.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Of it's insane. It's like, Caitlin Clark is a rookie.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
You can look at what she's facing on the court
and listen to the comments and gather this goes beyond
just healthy competition. Oh, this is some jealousy absolutely going on.
If Kennedy Carter's like, no Caitlin Clark questions after the
hard foul game, if Angel Reese afterwards like it's more

(47:55):
than just one player why they're watching the league.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
It's because of me too. Like, there's absolutely some jealousy.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
So don't be afraid to have an opinion if you
haven't watched every w NBA game in its history.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
It's just silly what it's turned into here.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yeah, it's it's ridiculous, I mean, and by that, I
mean it is worthy of ridicule. These players, they they
really they they don't understand the fact that this league,
the only reason why it exists is because the NBA
subsidizes it. It's not because of interest. People don't want this.

(48:34):
The ratings reflect that. That's the reality of the situation.
The NBA has lost money on the WNBA every single year.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Now.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Their hope is that potentially one day it'll turn into
a revenue creating a profit mining circumstance. It hasn't reached
that level yet. And if this is going to be
the the blowback that people receive for becoming interested in

(49:04):
this sport, it'll never become profitable. Yeah, Like it's almost
it's it legitimately is almost like having a a ticket
booth where somebody gives you a purity test, like are
you really a Jonas Brothers fan?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (49:21):
They name name the three Jonas Brothers by their first
name in their middle initial Like what why? Why do
I have to pretend like I know the w n
b A to be interested in the WNBA. I mean,
imagine if professional wrestling did this to people, you know
what I mean? Imagine if I mean any sport. I mean,

(49:42):
if if.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Titus think think about Tiger Woods and golf. Right, you
don't know golf, You don't know this guy?

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Many courses have you played this year? Have you ever
played Augusta not. You can't be here. You can't listen
to this guy. He's he doesn't even know golf. He
thinks that he thinks that they score points. It's like,
who can listen to me?

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Seems to me, who cares how much I know about
the WNBA?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Okay I don't, I'll freely admit now. Don't get me wrong.
There are some LARPers out there. There are some marpers.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Yeah, there are some live action role players out there
who are pretending that they've been covering the WNBA for
years and years and years.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
And that is laughable. That is laughable.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
There are certain people who you know, rolled over in bed,
realize that their phone keeps buzzing with Caitlin Clark updates,
and they're pretending they're faking the funk. You know, they're
they're they're trying. They're trying to pretend like they've cared
and been considerate of the WNBA for.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
A long time. Now.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
I could see how that could grind certain people's gears
who have been covering this sport for a year.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I get that. I get that.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
But outside of that, outside of somebody who's pretending to
have a deep understanding of all of the nuances of
the WNBA and the game outside of that, if I'm
just interested and I'm commenting on a new storyline, and
I'm talking about a human interest aspect of a young

(51:09):
woman who is trying as a rookie, is trying to
bring more people under the tent, and the the the
not so subtle rebukes from not only the league, but
her teammates as well that I could connect to.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Let me connect to it.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Don't force me out by saying, hey, you don't pass
our purities test because you can't name the Jonas brothers.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah, it's it's pure gatekeeping. And here's the irony of
all of it. So I have a lot of female
friends that work in the sports business, as most of
us do, who work, you know, in this field, and
they always get upset because when they are either out
on dates or out with friends and they're like, yeah,
I work in sports or I'm into sports, the toxic
masculinity is always, oh, name five players from the nineteen

(51:58):
twenty seven Yankees.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
It's an immediate quiz, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
And it's the is that on the other side, So
it's like pot cauling the kettle black hello, and I listen.
Gatekeeping is a natural human reaction to jealousy. We get
jealous that someone else is infringing on our territory and
we push back. It is a natural human emotion. I

(52:25):
get it, but you have to see you have to
have the self awareness that it's happening, because it's happening
at a at the highest level. Brian, you just played
the clip on ESPN, the highest level, the highest level
of sports media. One of the most respected sports media
personalities in our era is abstaining from giving an opinion

(52:48):
on sports because he's afraid he's gonna get cooked like
Steven A got cooked. That is the wrong message. We
should not be afraid people who work in sports media
to give our opinions about any sport. If someone asked
me about the French Open this morning, I would give
them my opinion. How many matches have I watched? Zero?
I still have enough general knowledge of what's happening at

(53:11):
Roland Garros to tell you who's the favorite and who
I think is going to win. Does that mean that
I'm the expert. No, But we are human beings. We
have opinions. Don't gate keep us on something that should
be a beautiful thing. Caitlin Clark is revitalizing a sport
that is in desperate need of renovation. It's like a
fixer upper the WNBA. It's getting fixed up. It's getting

(53:35):
the renovation right. We're gutting the kitchen. But it ain't
gonna work if the contractors are getting questioned by the
house owner every time they try to make a move
to make sure they know where every pipe goes. Just
let them do their job. Let Caitlin Clark do her thing.
Let her revitalize this league, and let's see where the
dust settles in a couple of years, and let's see
where the WNBA is. But it ain't gonna be as

(53:57):
high as it could be if everyone's gate keying us
out of having an.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Opinion real fast. Caitlin Clark. Yesterday she was asked about
the hard foul from Kennedy Carter and all the conversation
that it has generated, and her answer I thought was
pretty interesting. Here's a portion of what she had to say.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Sometimes it stinks how much, you know, the conversation is
outside of basketball and not the product on.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
The floor and the amazing players that are on the
floor and how good they.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Are think about this, She's totally right. Yeah's at that answer.
If you think about the conversation about the WNBA, we're
not breaking down. Hey, did you see Aja Wilson's statline? Yeah,
yesterday and matchups. And I understand that from Caitlyn's perspective,
you would like that, you would like to be the
focus on the play instead of the drama. But the

(54:48):
truth here is drama is what's selling. Yeah, and if
that gets the interest in the WNBA, so freaking be it.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Boss did this with the Lakers. He realized that.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
That that's right, it's a show. We got the Laker girls.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Absolute Yes, Doctor Buss had it right, he said, he
said the winning time. The whole documentary is based around
doctor Buss realizing that the NBA is losing money.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
I have an idea.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Let's let's build a circus, welcome everybody under the tent,
and then we'll be able to keep the main thing,
the main thing.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
That's right. I just people through the door.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
That absolutely works.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
But that's where it comes back to what Jared is
talking about with gatekeeping. It'd be one thing if Rebecca
Lobo and Monica McNutt just said, hey, I disagree, I
think this is just competition. I think it was a
hard foul. I don't think it's more than that. I
have no issue with it. But instead it's oh, you
don't know what you're talking about, and they're patting you

(55:47):
on the top of the head like, oh good try
you don't understand the context and butt out completely different
catch fuck keeping. Nothing wrong with saying I disagree, And
here's why. It's as soon as you start saying you
don't know what you're talking about, that's where you lose people.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
It is the scene.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
It's the reverse of the scene from Anchorman when Champkind
says to Veronica Corningstone, she.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Can't be there's no such thing as an anchor, lady.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
It's anchor.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I am so WNBA.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Listen the shoes on the other foot, now, you analysts,
I mean, instead of boxing us out of the conversation
and saying the only such person who's allowed to talk
about the WNBA is a former WNBA player or a
longtime WNBA analyst, why don't you welcome us in so
that we can all share in what you've always known

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and always enjoyed, and maybe there'll be more people under your.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Tent and fantastic again. Gatekeeping is I think I see
it in my space all the time. You know, someone
who's new in the area tries to make a splash,
and the sharp community he makes it seem like they
should be in a mental institution, like what are you
talking about? You don't know any Like it's a person
giving their opinion about sports, like gambling isn't now part

(57:10):
of the conversation. So they're trying to mix it up
and they get pushed out and boxed out. And what
it does is it is an attempt to silence their voice,
because that is just textbook gatekeeping in this situation. If
you silence the voices, nobody hears the conversation, and if
nobody hears the conversation, nobody shows up. And that to me, like,

(57:31):
you're right, get him in the door, see what happens,
and then we'll see where the WNBA is in two
or three years. Yeah, I think there's a chance that
it could be a profitable leak if this continues.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
That's the voice of Jared Smith right there.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
FSR Betting analyst Rich Ornberger Penn State All American with us.
I'm Brian No coming up next. The schedule has been unveiled.
What ala carte selections are you going to be making
here in the winter time?

Speaker 3 (57:59):
We'll explain.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.
So the ball buffet, we have the college football playoff
schedule here, when the days are, when the times are.
Of course we don't know the teams, but it gives

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us a taste of what we're going to be looking
at here in December and January. And what caught my attention, fellas,
is this. If you look at Saturday, December twenty first, okay,
there are a couple of games on the menu. On
the college side at noon, we'll have a first round
playoff game at one pm Texans at the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Then a little bit later that same day four o'clock
another college football playoff first round game at four point
thirty Steelers at the Ravens. That is a healthy Saturday.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Now you're probably going to be doing the side by
some action watching both at the same time. But my
question is this, we don't expect the college football first
round of the playoffs to outrate the NFL, but how
much do you think college football playoff games will cut
in to NFL ratings. If you're talking Texans, Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens. Again,

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we don't know the matchups, but say it's Notre Dame
playing in one of those windows and they get great ratings. Yeah,
I know we'd be paying attention to.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Oh that get into a little bit of the ratings there.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
How significant do you think the bite is that the
playoff games and college football take away from the NFL
that Saturday.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
I think it.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Could be significant, I really do. It's Look, if there's
one thing that I learned moving on from college football
to the NFL, the fan bases are very different. The
allegiances are very different. The colors don't run in college football.
You know, there are people who will switch what team

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they root for based on what city they live in professionally,
But when you have a favorite in college it's typically
because you grew up in Michigan. Your dad was a
Michigan your grandpa was a Michigan fan, and you're a
Michigan Wolverine fan.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Even if you went to you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
Know, I don't know, Eastern Michigan, or you went to
Southeast Missouri State, you're still a Wolverine fan because it's
more important and impactful to you if you're alma mater
like mine and Jared.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
We went to Penn State.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
You know in your case, b know you you you
grew up in a Notre Dame house, or you fell
in love with them because they were on TV as
a child, like whatever it is. It seems like those
allegiances are aren't tested, right, They're there, So I guess
my point is if if we have two big enough
brands facing off in a really important moment of their season,

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going head to head against the NFL, I do think
it'll take a sizeable bite.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Yeah, so I'll flip the narrative a little bit. Let's say,
because the teams might not align, but let's just say
that Saturday, December twenty first it was Lions Chiefs. Right,
Let's just take the Texans out for a second. Let's
say it was Lions Chiefs and then it was Michigan
in the playoff.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
At that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Yeah, that to me would be a sizeable chunk. Right.
But if it's Texans Chiefs and if it's USC Notre Dame, right, yeah,
Like I don't I think those are mutually exclusive fan bases.
I don't think it will be as big of a

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of a of a chunk, and you know, you can't play.
I'm sure the NFL could care less because they're the
NFL and they do what they want. But if they
knew who the teams were and they could adjust that
Saturday game accordingly, maybe they would like I see the
Steelers Ravens game in there. I'm not saying this is
gonna happen, but you know, if the Maryland Terrapins. But

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that's also a bad example because I just don't think
there's a lot of crossover between Maryland and the Ravens.
I honestly think there's a very small selection of teams,
the Lions being one of them, right with Michigan, that
have that direct allegiance to a college football team. And
to Rich's point, I'm born in New York. I'm a
Jets fan, I'm a Yankees fan, I'm a Rangers fan,

(01:02:30):
I'm a Knicks fan. But all of those teams have
become less in my heart over the years because I
cover professional sports a lot, you know, harder, I bet
on professional sports a lot more. Penn State will never die,
I will be and I don't bet on Penn State
for this reason, like especially when they're a favorite, because
I can't stand on the I can't even stomach the

(01:02:52):
thought of Penn State winning a game, not covering and
me being upset with the outcome. I can't even fathom
that as a Hence Nate guy. But for the Jets,
I could care less. I could absolutely care Like, like,
the Jets cover the spread as like a fifteen point
hunderdog and lose by fourteen and I bet the Jets.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I'm happy, You're like Jets baby, Kane Green, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I'll just say this, I think that without knowing the
matchups of these first round college football playoff games, let's
just say one of these games gets eight million people
watching it. I guarantee you a lot of those eight
million people would have been watching the NFL profit weren't
for a college football playoff game, right, Like, So that's

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the thing is, you could look at it different ways.
It's not going to outrate the NFL, but I think
it could cut into the audience pretty significant.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
And I'm curious you consider college football to be like
a national like because I consider it more regional. Where's
the NFL? I think is more national.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Well, I think that. I think that college football, Yes,
I agree with you. I think college football still is national.
It's not even close to on an NFL level. I
think it's sports regional, though I don't I think that. Listen,
you're gonna if you're in SEC country, that's what you're
gonna pay attention to. Way more country, no doubt. But

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I still think that now that it's expanded to twelve teams.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Yeah, I agree with sports regional.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
I do too, but I think when it's compared to
the NFL, it seems like it's like on a baseball level, now,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
And I don't think that's the case. I don't think
it's that regional.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
It's easier to compare it to the NFL than it
is to baseball. And I agree with what you're saying,
like baseball is hyper regional. Like where if you live
in the you know, the southwest corner of this country,
I mean, good luck giving any update on the AL.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
It's like the Braids. People live in Carolina, like the Braids. Yeah, yeah,
exactly right, exactly right. Yeah, because it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Nearby television schedules all that type of stuff. And college
football can be that way too. But I do think
when the field is whittled and the attention of the
national media from a sports standpoint turns to college football
to say like, hey, we.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Got something cooking here.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
A we have this group of worthwhile players who are
going to be matriculating into the NFL, this very national
product that we all care about, uh here coming soon,
and maybe a good view of how they're going to
look in big games and how that may compare to
the NFL is coming up in these playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
And I think that's that's.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
When it it really more mimics the NFL is when
we do get to the college football postseason, which is
only about a decade old, but but it definitely has
ensnared more people from a national standpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
That's a good media, it'll be a good take your point.
It'll be interesting to see how much, you know, the
ratings change over the next couple of years that we
get this new iteration of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Let's dive into this right now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
It's back to the futures. Maybe we can voice coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Okay, Jared, you you've got betting on your brain here
with Yamamoto.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
What are you thinking, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Man, guys, so rarely do I see buying opportunities in
the futures market is as delicious as this one. So
we have a hype situation brewing in the National League
Rookie of the Year market. Now I give show to
Imanaga his flowers. He has been the best I don't
want to say pitcher, but definitely rookie pitcher in baseball
the first two months of the year. But I don't

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think he has the staying power to continue pitching at
this level. Paul Skins, I mean, goodness, crazis Yeah, the
hype train after five starts is off the frickin' Sharks.
This guy is almost the favorite to win the Rookie
of the Year is the favorite, and Skiens is like

(01:06:50):
right behind him after five starts. And I love Paul Skiing.
There's a chance he's gonna win a cy Young one day.
But can we can we slow the brake here? Because
the Pirates are not making the playoffs, They're probably gonna
be out of it come September first, And if I'm
Pittsburgh's brain traws, there's no way this kid's pitching past
September first. Like I just I would not allow it

(01:07:12):
to happen because you need him for future years. You
need to milk every inning out of this guy when
you're actually in the race in future seasons. So I
think the Skeens hype train's gonna get derailed at some
point later this summer. And there's Yoshinobo Iamamoto sitting there
right now at five to one after a unbelievable start
last night in the Bronx. I know they didn't have

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won Soto, but he shut down the best lineup in
baseball for seven innings, and you could still get this
guy as the third favorite to win the NL Rookie
of the Year. He had all the hype coming into
the season, and then of course had that bad start
in the Seal Series and that kind of derailed him.
But I think this guy is the best rookie pitcher

(01:07:54):
in baseball right now. I think he will have the
full sample. The Dodgers will be in the race for
the entire summer. They're probably gonna win the West. I
just think this is a great bet to make. I
think the odds are gonna go significantly lower over the
next month or two, and I think Yamamoto mister at
will win the NL Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Make this bet now, guys, interesting stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Yeah, what do we think?

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
I love what you're thinking because what you're saying with
Skeens makes a lot of sense. Where they they might
shut him down. It's more of like a who's the
national spitcher?

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I'm thinking of Strawsburg draws right. I consider Skins like
a shooting star. He's gonna burn Cotten fast.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Right where you don't want to burn him out right,
and if you're not in contention, I could see them
potentially shutting him down earlier. I think what's really interesting
with Shoda Monaga is he was so electric early in
the season where that's gonna work against him sadly in
the NL Rookie of the Year race, because he's gonna

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look like he's slipped. He hasn't maintained the same pace.
It's gonna be a weird feeling. Instead of looking at
his body of work for the full season, it's gonna
feel like, well, he's regressed quite a bit, and that's
probably not fair, but you got to take advantage of
that in the betting market, and if you know how

(01:09:21):
the votes are likely to go, you can take an
advantage of that with Yamamoto.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
So I like what you're thinking here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
I do too.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
I think that Yamamoto really he I think he splashed
in Seoul, South Korea, like the last big, big headline
he had because it was only series going at that point.
It was the MLB opener, there was a little press
around it. He really struggled against the Padres when the
Padres and Dodgers played themselves played each other in that

(01:09:49):
weird one off. Since then, I mean he had one
tough month, he had one bad month, the month of March.
Since then, he's been on fire. And we know how
it goes with the Dodgers. This team always gained steam
down the stretch, and so I do think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
You know, look these it's no it's no uh uh,
it's no hidden storyline.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
These are popularity contests, you know, Rookie of the Year,
m VP votes. It goes to an important, impactful player,
but it also goes to a very popular player. I
think Yamamoto will be there at the end of the season.
I think there's great value on this. I like this,
this futures bet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Yama rookie love the name as wells Right off the tongue.
I love saying just because that's the whole reason I'm
betting you guys. I just want to say the name.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
You just shoehorn some stats and figures and logic. It's
just just the name. So we got Jared Smith FSR.
Betting analyst rich Orenberger, Penn State, All American. He will
blow towards some pork shoulder over there, and I'm I'm
Brian though here in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
The New York Big Apple.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Yeah yeah, might stop buy and say hi to Aaron
Rodgers for you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
H Ask him how his achilles is doing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
He looks a little yeah, yeah, that lit'll ball.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Hopefully he's all right, hopefully, okay, all right, right around
the corner. Prop bets galore. A lot of different possibilities here, NBA, NHL,
we got golf going on baseball of course, a lot
of options. We'll compare notes coming up. It is Fox
Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox

(01:11:27):
Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
You know what, We're just gonna cut to the chase.
Let's do this.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
Prop it up player plays.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Ah, yes, so many prop bet opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Jared.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
We'll start with you. What is on your menu?

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Sir, well, I'll give you an NBA prop because I
think we haven't talked a little whole lot about how
we're betting Game two yet. We did give you some
thoughts on Game one of this series. But I think
I'm gonna I'm gonna trust that the Mavericks give us
a better effort offensively, and I'm gonna go to Kyrie
and I'm gonna go over twenty two and a half points.
I know that sounds crazy because it goes against everything
we saw in Game one, but usually that's where the

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value lies. And again, what did we see in Game one, Well,
the volume was there. He took nineteen shots, if I
tell you, and this is without taking a shot in
the fourth quarter at all because of the blowout. If
I fast forward to Sunday, guys and I say Kyrie
takes nineteen shots again, I feel pretty good. He's going
over twenty two and a half points. So we saw
Boston switch. They're not gonna overhelp. They're gonna allow Kyrie

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to get his shot if he wants it. I think
twenty two and a half points a very fair number
for you know, the guy that has to play well
in order for Dallas to win, So I'll go Kyrie
Irving over twenty two and a half points.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
We're both on Kyrie, but different parts of his game.
I think he's going to have more than the four
assists that I see him mark that look.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
That's been a big part of the evolution and the
maturity of Kyrie Irving's game.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
He's always had good court vision, but I think since
he's left Lebron James, he's played more hero ball. But
then all of a sudden, playing with Luka Doncic, he realizes, oh,
you know, sometimes the best shot isn't my shot, And
so I think he's gonna share the basketball a lot more.
In this upcoming game, christops porzingis his point total at

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fifteen and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I'm taking I'm taking the under there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Here's the reason why so Chris stops porzingis he played
twenty minutes for the first time in forty days.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
And he had a really good game, highly emotional game.
Lot of bender g expenditure. Have you ever heard of doms?
It's delayed on set muscle soreness.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
It sets in in about two days after a lift.
Like if you ever notice, you you know, maybe you
go really heavy bench press one day or you do
a bunch of pushups.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Well, it's not usually.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
The next day, it's usually two days later. You feel
the soreness, you feel the fatigue and the muscle. That
is what Chris topsportzingis is gonna be feeling. I bet
those arms feel heavy, and I bet he hits thunder
on his point total.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Okay, all right, So the first prop I have circled.
I'm looking at Derek Lively over six and a half rebounds,
and here's what I'm thinking. So he was in foul
trouble in game one, he had five fouls, he only
played eighteen minutes. He had five rebounds in eighteen minutes,
and so it was coupled with the foul trouble like

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I mentioned, and some garbage time at the end where
he might have been left in the game even with
those five files late if it's a closer game. So
I think heading into game two and Boston shot the
lights out, they shot a really good percentage, So I
think that getting to seven rebounds for Derek Lively, I
think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
So I've got that circled.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
And if you want a bit of a long shot play, yeah,
you have Al Horford, who was great in Game one,
had two blocks.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
If you go under half a block, that sounds it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
If you go under zero point five blocks, right, you're
gonna have probably more playing time for porzingis maybe the
MAVs they don't test Horford as much, not as many
opportunities to block a shot. It's at plus one seventy
five for Horford to not have a block. Again, I
don't love the idea of him having zero blocks, but

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it's possible, and at that payout, if you're looking at
a little bit of a longer shot, I think that's
got a possibility to hit.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
If you're looking for that type of payout.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
I like that. I like searching for plus money on
the props because it's like you watch these games, it's
all coin flips. And to be on the right side
of that plus money. If you can find narratives that
make sense, I think you get a lot of value there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Yeah, just dive on in those waters. You know you
can involve that in there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Yeah, all right, come it up next, stupid rule or
stupid play years.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Oh what is going on? Everybody?

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Hope you having a fantastic Saturday morning. So we've got
another gambler gambling gone wrong over here, it would be
Lukapita Marcano. He has Hawk Harrelson once said he going
great baseball announcer, former player also shout out to Hawk.

(01:16:28):
But yeah, Luca pedayh grab some bitch. That was one
of my favorites too. But our guy lukapeda ultimate. He
was busy betting on baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
He was talking about he was doing a bad job
betting one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
We're talking about one hundred and fifty k bet on baseball. Wow,
eighty seven thousand was on MLB games and like you're
talking about rich. He had a four point three percent
success rate, which I was he just having like fifteen
team parlays, like fifteen leg parlays, and I hope so

(01:17:18):
that's the only way that percentage would make any sense.
But he's banned for life. The official term is indefinitely.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Yeah, But it's one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Of these deals where it's like I just I don't
have any patience for any athlete who bets on their
own sport yep, because it's clear as day this is
what happens when you do that. I have no idea
why you would literally gamble with your career by gambling
on your sport.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
It just makes no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
And I mean, and I would just stay away from
it altogether while you're playing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
I mean, I get it. Don't get me wrong. Vices
are fun.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
You know, people drink, people smoke, People get involved in
things that they know aren't good for them. I don't
necessarily think that for everybody, those things aren't necessarily good
for them. Some people are socially awkward, and if they
don't have a problem with alcohol, having a couple of
drinks before a family party or a group gathering, you know,

(01:18:21):
where it's socially acceptable to have a glass of champagne
in your hand or whatever it may be. Maybe that's
a social lubricant for you. You know, it's almost medicinal.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
At that point.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
But like when we're talking about sports betting, it's entertainment
for this short window that you have. Because baseball players,
football players, hockey, it doesn't matter, basketball, whatever sport you play, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Making other sacrifices to be at that level.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
You know, you're not somebody who's you know, unavailable mentally
from a bandwidth standpoint to making sacrifices. You've done it
your whole life, so just add one more sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
I'm not gonna sports bet while I'm doing this thing
that I'm doing, because if somehow I accidentally click the
wrong button, I'm either gonna have to tell on myself
because those are the rules, or I'm going to have
to chance fate and hope that I don't get caught.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
So just stay away from it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
But to compete Marcano, he joins Pete Rose as the
only other Major League Baseball player to serve a lifetime ban.
We'll see you know, like you said, it's in. It's
classified as indefinite. Maybe it gets overturned. I would highly
doubt it, because the other part of this story is
Major League Baseball and all of these sports leagues.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
They are looking for examples to be made. They want
to make.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Sure that there are low cost examples, like a guy
like Marcano, who, let's be honest, he's barely had a
major league.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Heard him this story.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Yeah, he's he's he's been a minor leaguer who's bounced
up to major league rosters here and there. He's he's
he was injured when he was making all these bets like.
You know, he's not a name that cuts through at all,
but he is a low cost example to be made.
Major League Baseball doesn't lose a high prize talent.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
This isn't somebody who's going to you know, break through
and end up hitting forty home runs for the Yankees
one day, so they.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Get to make an example of you and they move on.
Don't be the example. Just stay away from him. Yeah,
So there's two I have two tracks of thinking here.
The first track is the initial pushback to the story
from the national talking heads that say gambling's ruining professional sports?
All right, are we going to go back to prohibition

(01:20:53):
every time someone gets killed in a duy like it? No,
let's relax on that now, narrative. This is a bad actor.
There's bad actors everywhere, and we need to just root
out the bad eggs and not focus on the actual
act of gambling. Because if it's not gambling, it'll be

(01:21:16):
performance enhancing drugs. If it's not performance and hancing drugs,
it'll be something else that an athlete commits a you know,
misstep and and and has to be suspended. So let's
not focus on the act. Let's focus on the person
in this situation. I think the punishment fits the crime.
This is a pretty egregious act. There are some other

(01:21:37):
players that were named in this suspension, you know news
that dropped earlier this week, low level minor league players.
One guy bet like one hundred dollars total. Like, these
are kids making mistakes and they should be held accountable
for those mistakes. But we need to stop with the

(01:21:58):
gambling is ruining for national sports, you know narrative here,
because if it wasn't, this is the system working properly.
Like if they weren't doing it legally, they're betting legally
on shore. If they weren't doing it legally on short
you think they wouldn't bet offshore illegally, Like it's still happening,

(01:22:19):
but when you regulate the market, like it is now
being regulated by our friends at bet MGM and all
the other sports books out there in the ecosystem that
have partners and regulatory partners and you know GEO comply partners,
so you're doing it in the right state and the
right locale. The system is working properly. Let the system work,
Let's weed out the bad actors, and let's then continue

(01:22:42):
with our lives because I don't think this might be
a bad example. But I don't think Shoe aotan he's
out there betting millions of dollars on baseball. I think
in general, these are a few bad actors that are
just breaking the rules and they need to be held
accountable for. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
It's interesting, man, because if like, alcohol is everywhere, right,
and if let's say a baseball player got drunk and
then compounded it by driving or getting into a fight
or doing something even more stupid can drink again, right,
we would look at it and say he made a
bad choice.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
I don't know why we don't look at that the
same way when it comes to gambling. Why don't we
just look at these minor league players and we'll get
to the pass and audio. But it's like their names
were on their account, Yeah, betting on under their own name.
It's like bad, He's made a bad choice. It's a
horrible decision. So I don't know why you would look

(01:23:40):
at it differently. If it's alcohol, you're like, bad decision.
If it's gambling, you're like, well, this is because it's everywhere, ya,
so is alcohol. I don't understand it's such a disconnect
core field, right, like right, yeah, it's just strange. But
here's Jeff passing a couple of things that he had
to say. One for anyone who's like, well, these punishments

(01:24:03):
are a little heavy handed. Here here's what Jeff Passon
had to say on the Pat McAfee show.

Speaker 7 (01:24:08):
You see, when you walk into a big league clubhouse
every time, regardless of its spring training, minor leagues, major leagues,
when you're in a professional clubhouse, do you see rule
twenty one right there?

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
It is plain and simple.

Speaker 7 (01:24:23):
It is in English, and it is in Spanish, and
it says unequivocally, do not bet on baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Boom right there. There's no excuse for betting on your
own sport. And the other thing that Passon had to
say is this on the Pat McAfee show.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Check this out.

Speaker 7 (01:24:41):
I think the most surprising elements of this to me
wasn't that guys for gambling.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
It was that they.

Speaker 7 (01:24:46):
Were just so brazen in how they put their names
on their accounts, and they were essentially like narked out
by gambling operators.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
What are we doing? Come on, man?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
If like, if you're gonna speed on the highway, you
gotta be a little savvy about it, you know, I
don't think that you just blow by a cop who's
on the road, right, Like, what are you doing right?

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
If you're gonna gamble on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Your own sport, at least.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Don't bet under your actual name. What are you doing here?
So that's where I don't know somebody. It doesn't need
to be more complicated than horrible decision.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Be smarter. It's nothing more complex than that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
I loved sports as a kid because it gave me
an outlet for all the energy I had, and it was,
you know, a great release.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
I looked at it, as you know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
Football especially as like a sanctuary, Like it was a
quiet time for me where you didn't you could block
out all the other stresses you had going on in
your life and you could just focus on the game
the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
You were very present in those moments.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
And then as I you know, grew and I continue
playing sports through college, and I realize, wow, there are
occupations like completely tied to this game. I really never
thought about it that way, like, wow, this sport could
be work, like it could be what you wake up,
you know, pour your first cup of coffee thinking about
every single day. I really never cross that line mentally.

(01:26:24):
And then you know, as you get into the NFL
and you start looking around the room and you start
being asked questions by younger athletes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Like what does it take to get to the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
You know, you tell them the right things, obviously, working hard, dedication,
making sacrifices. You're not gonna be the guy who's out
laid partying every night, because you're gonna have to wake
up and get in the gym, and you're gonna have
to do certain things that your other friends aren't willing
to make sacrifices for. And then that brings you to
this next inevitable step. Sports are by nature unfair, like

(01:27:00):
sometimes I'm telling you right now, the best football player
to ever live never made it to the NFL. And
it's not because of the reasons you'd think. It's not
because of you know, because he was in it wasn't
the right time, or injury. It's because he flunked out
of school, or it's because he got wrapped up in
a gang, or it's because you know, he had bad

(01:27:23):
parents and you know, you know, a situation at home
distracted him from his college career, or you know, maybe
it's a player who decided to go home and help
the family because they were running low on money and
he had to get a job. Like the best football
player to ever live, you know, better than Dickerson as
a running back, better than Randy Moss as a wide receiver,

(01:27:45):
Jerry Rice never played the sport at the highest level
because I'm telling you something else wiped them out. And
it's Darwinism. It's survival of the fittest. And sometimes it's
not fair. Sometimes the fittest doesn't survive, and sometimes it's
just survivor who survives. So with Major League Baseball and
all these other sports leagues with this gambling aspect, you know,

(01:28:08):
a gambling sports betting aspect that is strictly forbidden.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
This is just thinning of the herd.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
Good player, bad player, you know, smart player, dumb player,
ignorant player, you know, well informed player. If you do
certain things, you're gonna get snuffed, and if you do
enough stupid things, you're going to be a liability and
teams won't want you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
And it doesn't matter how talented you are.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
This is just another way the third the herd gets thinner,
and it's interesting to see it play out because we're
eventually going to see a really important prospect or potentially
a really important player in one of these leagues get
wrapped up in one of these scandals and suffer the consequences.

(01:28:54):
And it's going to be a storyline for weeks and
maybe months and maybe be a great cautionary tale. And
I think it's the one that we need, because I
don't think this has cut through enough. That's the reason
why these ballplayers we're so brazen, because I don't think
the message has been sent, you know, in an ostentatious

(01:29:17):
enough way for people to be paying attention to it,
or at least all ballplayers to be paying attention to it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Yeah. Guess what, guys, Gamba's not going anywhere. No, it isn't.
This show ain't going anywhere. Gamba's not going anywhere. Millions
and millions of dollars are being exchanged from the leagues
to the sportsbooks and vice versa. With the way that
the advertising is built. Do I think we need regulations

(01:29:44):
and you know, guardrails for some of the advertising. Yes,
is it in your face all the time? Absolutely? So
is alcohol, So is fast food so or all the
other vices that are unhealthy. It is on you the
person to have discipline, like being a professional athlete. I
don't know what that is like rich does, but I

(01:30:06):
know what it's like to wake up every day and
to treat what I do as a job. Like I
don't make money from you know, I don't derive my
income from gambling, but I derive my my livelihood from
talking about it and being a responsible actor in the
space to be able to, you know, show people that

(01:30:27):
you can do this as a hobby and you don't
have to be a degenerate. Like gambling can be fun,
it can be entertaining, It can be your instead of
spending one hundred dollars to go out to the movies
on a Friday night. It could be the replacement for that.
But if you abuse it, just like you abuse anything else.
If you eat a million cheeseburgers from McDonald's, you're gonna

(01:30:48):
get fat. If you smoke a million cigarettes from wherever,
you're probably gonna get lung cancer. If you drink a
lot of you know, alcohol every day, you're probably gonna
get liver poison. Like those are the things that happen
when you use of ice and when you are not
allowed to even touch that advice to begin with, well,
then it's probably gonna end bad for you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
No, it's well said. Man, all you guys made great points, and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
I'm just we keep talking about this where it seems
like we have the next example of hey, don't do
this because this is the punishment. We just had John
tay Porter in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
That was really bad. He was fixing his own games. Yeah,
that was.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Now we've got a baseball player suspended for life or
quote unquote indefinitely, and it's still happening, and the reaction
turns out to be, oh, well, it's the the gambling
space and this is what happens when it's like, I
just think that's the wrong way to look at it.
It's just making bad choices, bad decisions. And to me,

(01:31:55):
in my mind, it goes back to the drinking thing.
If you look at someone who abuses alcohol hall and
you say, hey, that was just a bad choice. If
you have another example in another sport, and another example
in another sport, why does your thinking then change to oh, well,
it's it's alcohol. It's everywhere. I mean right, Like, no,

(01:32:17):
these are just bad choices. It's an even worse choice
when you have recent examples of being banned for life
or suspended for a year by betting on your sport
and you still do it, that makes it even worse.
So I wouldn't make it any more complicated than that.
We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR,

(01:32:37):
betting analyst. I'm Brian No all right, coming up next.
This is a reason that doesn't even sound real. I
won't lay it out for you right around the court
or a horrible logic. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right
here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Shout out to Nick Cope with US Today. He had
this in his update last hour. Caitlin Clark left off
the Olympic team for women's basketball, obviously, And this is
a report from Christine Brennan. She does great work for
USA Today, and I'm just going to read a portion

(01:33:21):
of her latest article.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
She wrote.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Two sources, both longtime US basketball veterans with decades of
experience in the women's game, told USA Today Sports Friday
that concerns over how Clark's millions of fans would react
to what would likely be limited playing time on a
stacked roster was a factor in the decision making. If

(01:33:46):
that's true, what are we doing? Are you kidding me?
Just get the best roster possible. And if you look
at this also and say, hey, what's gonna grow, oh,
women's basketball more? Is it Caitlyn Clark and her huge

(01:34:07):
fan base on the Olympic stage fighting for the country,
or is it Diana Tarassi who's gonna turn forty two
on Tuesday? You know, come on, what's gonna do more
for women's basketball? And yet there's a possibility that Caitlyn
was left off the Olympic team because the suits making

(01:34:27):
these decisions are like, yeah, but her fan base, you
know how they are, They're gonna be ticked when she's
not getting minutes out there. I really hope that's not true,
because that is obnoxiously idiotic.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
If it is true, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
Well, listen, this is the reason why. Then this is
a part of the conversation that I have with you guys.
Often when debates Ray je On about Pro Bowl snubs
or All Star snubs or this Hall of Famer should
have been inducted or all fair, it's like it missed
me with all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
I hate these things.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the Olympics,
and I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
How sports work. Like sports are I just said it before.
They're unfair. They're innately unfair.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
Like it's survival of the fittest, and sometimes the fittest
doesn't always survive.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
And this is one of those cases.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
Where extenuating circumstances is the reason why Caitlin Clark isn't
going to be an Olympian. Huh, Like, it doesn't make sense,
It doesn't feel fair, and sports aren't fair.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
But what a missed opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
I really, the only people you're hurting are the people
in that room. The US women's basketball team would have
so much more buzz heading to Paris than they would
hit with with her as opposed to without her. It's
just it's a head scratcher. And I think it is

(01:36:00):
a reaction to how volatile a storyline Christ and Clark
has been, because it doesn't feel like the players, or
the analysts or the coaches maybe who cover play or
coach the sport can handle this. And and in the
pressure cooker, they made the wrong decision.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
I mean, let's be honest, guys, it kind of fits
the narrative of everything we talked about in the last
hour about this story, and not this story, but the
whole Caitlyn Clark debate, like the gate I mean, she's
being gate kept off the off the team of you
team us, Like we're being gate kept. I don't know
if that's the past tense of the verb, but you
understand what I mean. Yeah, we're being you know, the

(01:36:44):
gatekeeping is happening to us, the non WA fan, the
non WWNBA fan, trying to talk about the WNBA in
a you know, I think logical way, as most sports
talk people do sometimes. And now Caitlin is being e
kept off of the team because they're afraid of backlash

(01:37:05):
from fans. Real this this is a this is I
don't even really know how to characterize this because I
haven't had a whole I've had a whole lot of
time to digest it because it just got it just broke,
and I saw Christin Brennant's tweet getting you know, tossed
around the you know, the the social media space with
the anonymous sources. But it kind of fits what we're

(01:37:27):
all hearing here. It kind of fits the narrative of
the WNBA has no idea. It kind of reminds me
actually of like a young star in any industry when
they get that initial success, sometimes they just can't handle
it and they make decisions that are not in line

(01:37:48):
with the decision making process that got them to the
stardom in the first place. The WNBA has now been
given the gift of Caitlin Clark. How does the women's
basketball community handle it? They haven't handled it that well
so far. It's a lot of gatekeeping, a lot of jealousy,
a lot of anger. This decision to keep her off

(01:38:11):
the team feels like it's kind of in line with that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Yeah, it's crazy. I think they messed it up on
both hands. Where if you're just looking for the best
roster possible again you go to if you could just
compare Diana Tarossi what she's done this season to Caitlyn Clark.
Caitlyn Clark has more points, more rebounds, more assists. Now
the points and rebounds are close, but the assist Caitlyn

(01:38:37):
has over six assists per game. Diana has won per game,
you know, And so I don't think they have the
best roster possible and then there's no debate as far
as buzz traction ratings. What will grow women's basketball more?
Diana Tarossi's on her way out. I mean, props to

(01:38:58):
her for lasting this long. She's about to turn forty two, right,
And so if it's the better player, it's Caitlyn.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
She's off the team.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
If it's more buzz and what grows the game more
going forward, it's Caitlyn Clark and she got left off.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
They screwed it up twice.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
Yeah, however you look at it, it's Caitlyn should get
the nod. But I don't know, man, That's that is
the dumbest reason to me, is to think, oh man,
there might be backless soft.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
It's so soft to have a backbone.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Man, if they complain, they complain, Yeah, why would you
only look at it from that point of view?

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
And also, it really is it's cutting off your nose
in some ways to spike your face. Like I understand,
maybe maybe some of the people who are in charge
of making this decision didn't feel like they wanted to
deal with the smoke. In terms of the Caitlyn Clark
fans complaining maybe misunderstanding her place in this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Complaining about or playing time. But who knows.

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
Maybe you get this group of women together and they
start practicing and you go, oh, geez, you know what,
She's gonna get more playing time than we thought, Like, like, how.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
Do you know before you know?

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
Like you know, it's it's so, it's just it's so
confounding to me to make that decision in the first place,
especially like you just laid out, Brian, that there are
women who will make this team who from a statistical,
a measurable standpoint, may deserve it less than her. It's again,
it's another chapter in what has been a bizarre start

(01:40:38):
to the story of Caitlin Clark's professional career.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
It feels like every.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
Single thing the WNBA or now Team USA could do
to gate keep.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
More people from enjoying their sport, they're doing. So that's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:40:57):
I enjoy this league being shuddered in a couple of
years as a result of nobody paying attention to it,
because that is what happens when businesses start rebuking the
interest of their consumers, you start losing your consumers.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Jealousy is is really tough. And I just got a
tweet from a you know, someone who follows me and
and you know chimes in off the time, and they
kept their off the Olympic team because a bunch of
older players the wanter on the team. Jealousy and hatred
is ridiculous. Thank you Jeff Bearder for that tweet. I
agree on the surface. I think there's a couple more
layers to it than that. But there is got to

(01:41:36):
be a tipping point right like right now, we're at
fever pitch. I guess pun intended to the yeah right
that Kaitling Clark plays for. But we have reached now
fever pitch. Of this discourse, it has been a full week,
like every single day for the last week. This has
been top story on most most you know, sports talk shows.

(01:41:59):
Is just discourse in some capacity. I think it's a
good thing for the league right now, unless they don't
figure out a way to just move on right Like
I asked, I talk about this all the time. In gambling,
you've got to move on from a bad beat. If
you let it simmer and you let it affect your

(01:42:21):
next bet, you are making a bad wager like you're
you're in that case, you are cutting off your nose
despite your face because you're worried about something that happened
in the past, and you're letting it affect your future.
At some week to move on from this discourse, because
if the story the entire time, the whole time Caitlin
Clarks in the league is about this, we will never

(01:42:43):
grow as a WNBA fan base, as a league, as
a you know, there has to be an amicable solution
or at least a calming a detent in some capacity,
and this story just made it worse. They just throw
a gasoline on the fire. Like at some point we
have to kumbay a here and just admit that Caitlyn

(01:43:05):
Clark is a big reason, if not the reason, why
this league is getting all the attention, and we have
to just move on and play basketball. But it's been
a full week, and now we're not gonna play basketball
for a full week because all we're gonna do is
talk about now this story with the US. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
It's funny you say that because Caitlyn. I'll say this
real fast. Caitlyn talked about that yesterday. So it was
just you know, interviewing players on the court, and she
was asked about the the Kennedy Carter hard foul, and
she said like she was asked a question like are

(01:43:42):
you expecting an apology? Do you want an apology? And
she was like no, I mean basketball is competitive and
it just makes me think where if you think about
all the unnecessary drama. It's been a full week, if
not more, but especially over the last week, it's been
unnecessary drama left and right, Hard File the reaction to it.

(01:44:03):
What Kennedy Carter has to say, what Angel re says
and says, there's drama, drama, drama, drama, dram drama. You
know who hasn't been dramatic is Caitlyn Clark. Yes, she
could be stirring the pot and be like yeah, she
owes me a bology that wasn't a basketball play at all,
and just she's like, nope, it's competitive basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
And she said yesterday, that's why I originally brought it up.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
She's like, I just want to play basketball, yep, I
love the sport.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
I just want to get back to that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
And she's like, so does my team, and she said,
so does the WNBA all these other teams.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
That's the right approach, I think, to this bro, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
A nice thing to say. It's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
No, it's the right message to send.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
I think, yeah, but that's the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
If you look at all the drama going on here,
whether it's the hard file, the reaction to it, all
the comments being left off of Team USA, and the
ridiculous reasoning as to why that might have happened. The
one missing element of drama in this whole thing is
Caitlyn Clark.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
Yeah, she's as non.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Dramatic as possible, And I mean that as a compliment
and so like it's everybody else's fault that we're living
in dramaville right now, my lord, But we gotta shift
gears over here. Send the baton over to this guy.
He is a speed demon running the anchor leg over
here in the four by one hundred dash. We've got

(01:45:24):
Nick Cope with us today, Nick, what is going on?

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Buddy? Guys?

Speaker 8 (01:45:27):
If I could quickly, as you said, speed demon here,
just contribute to the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
More to Jason's point.

Speaker 8 (01:45:34):
You know, maybe the animosity going on is good, you know,
having all this discussion, but eventually you want the older
players to get over it and so put her on
the team. Maybe you got some friction, but maybe it
helps all that in the long run. Also, Christian Laitner
was on the ninety two Dream Team, Isaiah Thomas was
left off. And also Christine Brennan had a great point

(01:45:55):
when it comes to coverage of the Olympics, who are
we watching every night when NBC has their coverage. We're
watching gymnasts, swimmers, runners, maybe the US women's soccer team.
We're not paying attention. And we have not paid attention
to the USA women's basketball team, largely because they've been
so incredibly dominant. They haven't lost a game since ninety two.

(01:46:17):
You put Caitlin Clark on that team, people are paying
attention now.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
Yeah, it's crazy. So anyways, my two cents Eagles.

Speaker 8 (01:46:29):
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(01:46:49):
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then later on tonight, eight eastern, Game one of the
Stanley Cup Final, the Oilers and the Panthers from Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
Guys, back to you, great stuff, Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
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(01:47:35):
some dirty pool, one of my favorite stev Ray Vaughn songs.
You know, this is just lame. DraftKings, what are we
doing over here? So this is a couple of nights ago,
kent to Mayeta was pitching, and he threw two pitches
and he left the game with an injury. Yep, And
so DraftKings voided all of the underbust on maida props strikeouts.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
If you're like, under, I don't know what the line.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Let's say it's four and a half, and you're like, oh,
under that, how it's recorded fifteen and a half? Give
me the under hits a loud six and a half
under all right, But they're like, nope, nope.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
He left after two pitches. All bets voided you ever?

Speaker 4 (01:48:18):
You ever wonder sometimes like margins, when you walk into
a grocery store and you're like, wow, they're selling I
don't know, a doctor Pepper twelve pack for three ninety nine.
They're probably losing money on these twelve packs or you know,
you you walk through, it's like they got a crazy
sale on pork shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
You know, how are they doing? Whatever? It is like
you know you not after Arenberger gets through, it'll be
they're gonna clean out the place.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
Damn right, you're damn right, but uh you'll have to
take it off the circulars. But uh yeah, when when
that stuff happens, you think, my goodness, like, why would
a business ever do that? And then you start thinking, oh,
because their business and they're selling more than just pork shoulder,
they're selling more than just twelve packs of doctor pepper
they're selling their margins are the fact that you know,

(01:49:11):
their people walking into the store because they're looking for
that sale and on their way to the doctor pepper
isle or the soft drink ale, they're also picking up
their apples. They're also picking up you know, their pancake mix,
and they're picking up their you know, polyo cheese sticks
and the other things that you have a big markup on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
They make their money all the way back and then some.
It's called a loss leader.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
It's what you do in business to encourage people to
use your business, You dummy.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
So like DraftKings, what a miss?

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
What a great opportunity to get some good publicity.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
And take a loss for the greater good.

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
So you get more people in the grocery store buying
cheese sticks.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
But they screwed it up. Yeah, I think it's more
to me that the reason that I don't like it
when the books do this is because they enable and
what they mean, and what I mean by that is
gambling is supposed to be cruel. It's not fair. Sports
life is not fair. It mimics that we've talked about,

(01:50:14):
the bad beats. It's there's an entire segment on it.
You know, Scot Vanpeltz Champion Dad. It's one of my
favorite segments in all of sports media. We enable society
to think that it's okay to get a freebe handout
when things don't go your way, whereas in reality we
need to be a little bit tougher as a society.

(01:50:35):
You had a bad break, ma Ada got hurt. It happens,
injuries happen in sports. You take the l you move on.
But we've enabled the gambling public to think that if
a bad beat happens against you, you deserve to be
bailed out.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Yeah, it's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
It's uh like we've all lost on taking the over
on a player.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
Prop that player gets hurt, you lose your bet.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
They don't say, well, hey, in fairness, he might have
hit the over if he was healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
It's we've lost that way.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
So when I win, you can't say, well he got hurt,
bets are avoided. That's garbage. It can't work that way.
But they're calling the shots. I just hate that they're
not crying poor. They're making so much money and yet
they're still being unnecessarily greedy. That's a terrible look by
DraftKings come on, gotta be better than that. Right, We've

(01:51:32):
got rich Oornberger, Penn State All American. He'll think, man,
they're selling this sports shoulder for this cheap. He thinks
that at least once a week. At least once a week,
Penn State All American. There, we've got Jared Smith FSR,
Betting analyst. I'm Brian No coming up next, Rapid Fire Selections.
That's on the way. It's Fox Sports Saturday here on
Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday right here

(01:51:54):
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Props to the crew, our guy Lee, Robert.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
Nlap the filling in for Bo Benton today, My guy Lee.
Great to hang out with him again as Packers could
have a losing record this season. Boy, very possible the
case a Chris Purfett, outstanding technical producer Nick Cope hanging
out with us, manning the updates in great style. Top

(01:52:20):
of the Hour up on game, LeVar Arrington, DJ Hushman,
Zada Plexico, Burists. They have got you more than covered.
They come your way in just less than ten minutes.
We got some pigs to make.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Let's do it.

Speaker 5 (01:52:35):
Rapid Fire, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
Jared Off of three and oh Week very nice with
the nerfy's last week.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
What do you have for us today?

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Yeah, we'll give you a nervy right out of the gate.
This is the most insaning. This is almost statistically impossible
what I'm about to tell you, But it's the God's
honest truth. The Toronto Blue Jays have not scored a
run in the first inning in twenty nine straight games. Again,
almost statistically impossible, considering the average scoring in the first
inning is about twenty five to thirty percent. So yeah,

(01:53:04):
we're gonna bet the neurfy today for them facing the Athletics.
The Athletics aren't a very good offense either. It's not
the best pitching matchup in the world, Kevin Gosman against
Luis Medina. But you just got it. You gotta keep
riding this street. Blue Jays, a's ner fee and we'll
go cross sport here. I'll give you NHL Stanley Cup
Final and then NBA Finals picks for the weekend. I'll
take the pants. Hey, you gotta get the singular and

(01:53:25):
the plural up there. I'll go Panthers money line against
the Oilers tonight. Listen, guys, I think Florida after losing
in the Cup last year, I was there the night
that Vegas won it. The look in their eyes they're
back now. I think they get over the hump, not
only in this game, but in this series. So I'll
take the Panthers tonight at home to beat the Oilers,
and I'll bet the over straight game over two fourteen

(01:53:45):
and a half MAVs Celtics Game two of the NBA
Finals tomorrow night. I think Dallas's offense plays better. I
don't fully trust they're gonna cover, but I think if
they do play better, it correlates to an over. And
I think Boston's not gonna rest all their starters the
last minutes over to fourteen and a half matt Celtics
Game two tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
All Right, So everybody knows I follow the Padres living
in San Diego here on this show, so I'm gonna
stick with them.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
It's what I've known.

Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
It's what I've seen all season long from the Padres.
When they lie dormant for many games in a row,
they all of a sudden get hot again. It's been
a back and forth Ebb and flow. Padres. Right now
minus one and a half on the run line. Take
it against the Diamondbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
They're at home.

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
They're coming off a five game skid. They just got
a big win over the d Backs last night, ten
runs to three, which brings me to my next on
rapid Fire Diamondbacks Padres total runs eight.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
I'm taking the over there again.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
The offense hasn't created many crooked numbers over the past
five games. I think they're due for another explosion today,
and then I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
Gonna take you to.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
Tomorrow night, Boston Dallas Game two NBA Finals. The total
points is set at two fourteen and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
Like the under, I think this is.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
Gonna be a little bit more of a defensive game
while the series is still in Boston, and then I
think it starts opening up a little bit more when.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
They had out to Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Okay basketball, Derek White three made three pointers last game.
Let's fade him this one under two and a half.
That's plus money plus one thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Give me Derek Lively. I think he gets to at
least seven rebounds. Give me over six and a half
limited playing time five files last game. I think he
gets the seven rebounds. The pitching matchup favors the Twins today.
The Pirates are only plus one oh five. It's a
stinky line. Roll with the Pirates is what I say.
Go Pitchburn, enjoy your name.

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