June 8, 2024 • 41 mins
LaVar Arrington and TJ Houshmandzadeh talk about the chaotic coverage of Caitlin Clark, Kendrick Perkins calling out LeBron making things about himself, NBA Finals Game 2 and more!
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All right, here we go hour two on the move
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a lot to get to all right, Uh, TJ, let's
just jump right to it. I don't I don't want
to mess around with it. Let's let's get to it.
The coverage of Caitlyn Clark and her rookie season. It
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continues to be a very very large topic of conversation,
so much so that now you have legends like Teresa Witherspoon,
who obviously is the head coach of the Sky we
know what took place in that game. Let's take a
listen to what she had to say and what happened,
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what took place at the press conference as it applied
to Caitlyn Clark, and then let's let's have a little
little discussion on the whole Caitlyn Clark phenomenon. Right here
we go, and then Kennedy give you an opportunity to
talk about that moment.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Continue and kate the ones on that play. What was
said and kind of what led.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
To next question.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, I answer clark questions, she said, I don't know
what she said what.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
We're good?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
All right, Here's what she also had to say. This
is the next clip of what coach Weatherspoon had to say.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Unfortunately, Kennedy got caught up into a heated moment because
what we teaching here is to have a cool head
and a hot game cool head in.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Any situation, and that didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
So there was a conversation between myself and Kennedy of
how we conduct ourselves that was not appropriate.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
We don't do that, we don't act like that, we
don't conduct ourselves like that. And the message is clear.
Message is very clear. Lesson learned. We want to move
on a very positive way.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Been great examples, and we step between those four lines
and do things the right.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Way, all right. So, and she is a legend, by
the way, I mean, if you know anything about women's basketball,
Teresa Weatherspoon was was a beast like up there with
like the likes of obviously you know, Sheryl Swoops and
all of them. I mean, she's is a legend, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So, So the point is here, Here's here's what I
want to throw out at you, TJ. The coverage of
Caitlyn Clark. Is it about her as an athlete? Is
the coverage of Caitlyn Clark about her as as a
star w NBA rookie or is this about something else?
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Because I just feel like there is this overload of coverage.
There is this idea that that I don't know that
the narrative has to be based upon Caitlyn Clark and
it and it starts to come across as what what
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is the agenda. That's the first thing that I asked
myself this question, is it to make women's basketball more relevant?
I came to the conclusion that it's not because to me,
if this was really about making women's basketball more relevant.
Then the storylines that people are chasing for Caitlyn Clark,
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the headlines that are hitting for Caitlyn Clark, would be
vastly different. It would be it would be more based
upon what she needs to do and how she needs
to do it, and how it's been done in the past.
There have been great athletes that have come from college
that had to adjust and adapt to a, by the way,
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a very physical pro level league style of play and.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Have done so.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You know, the first names I think of is Shamika
Holsklaw or or Candice Parker, or even like a Sue
Bird or a Diana Tarazi. They've all had to come
through the ranks of playing in the league, not like this,
not as far as coverage, not as far as coverage,
not like this. Okay, talk about it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Let me say this first. The viewers and the listeners
that tune in every week, Man, we thank you' all
for that. Another reason I'm saying this, I'm getting text
messages as we're on air. I'm saying they listening are
God Dave Couello at FS one producer, but the people
that listen to us on a weekly basis, we thank
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you for that. This is what I'll say, is Caitlyn Clark,
She's an enigma. Man Like, it is like people are
jealous and I don't even know if jealous is the
right action. They don't like that she's getting so much coverage.
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But it's Aaron bro She earned this. She earned this. Like,
if you you want to be in a position that
she's in, go do what she did. All athletes, we
are all afforded the same opportunities. She went to Iowa
and she took a women's basketball team and put them
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all the back.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Say she did a blue blood approach to make Iowa relevant.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
She She's earned this. She's earned this off the back
of her hard work. Man Like, I don't people see
the game. They see the game. You don't see what
goes into me being able to play this way in
the game. You don't see the summers of work that
I put in when the season is over, you don't
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see that. You don't see how hard we're not any
athlete works, let's specifically clay Caitlin Clark. Let's just keep
it on her. We don't see her running at what
we would call them. I don't know what they call
them now suicides or jayhawks. They call them suicide of jayhawk.
We don't see that. And then go shoot five hundred
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shots a day. We don't see that. We don't see
that behind the scenes hard work that this young lady
has put in day after day, month after month, year
after year. We don't see that. And it's not just her,
there's plenty others that are doing it. But she took Iowa,
a non basketball school, to the top of the food chain.
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Come up short. They did they win it all? No,
but what she did was remarkable and so because of that,
she goes into the WNBA with extreme popularity and her
team isn't winning, but she's holding her own and she
turning the ball over a bit much yet she'll figure
that out, but it's to me, it's good for the game.
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But people want well I didn't get this attention. They
didn't talk about me like this. Well you didn't do
what Caitlyn Clark did, because if you did, they would
be talking about you like this. And so Angel rees
Caitlyn Clark. They are a big reason a lot of
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people are watching women's basketball in a WNBA. Now, they're
a big reason of that. You would probably if we
had to give a percent, I would probably say sixty
forty Kaitlin Tangel Reese. And that's not a bad thing, Like,
it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Do you think they have the type of influence the
type of gravity that a Larry Bird and coincidentally one
happens to be white, one happens to be black, But
I mean, it is what it is. Do you think
they have the same type of draw the same type
of kind of gravity that could actually get the WNBA
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to a place that Magic and Bird did for the
NBA before it was before it was Michael Jordan who
made the NBA super super relevant and brought it into
mainstream the way that he did. It was Larry Bird
and Magic Johnson that made the NBA took it to
the events level that it did and it never turned
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back like that's been what the standard was. And that
was kind of like where it all started and where
it began where you had you think they're that major.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's possible, it's possible, but this was Their teams are
gonna need to win. Their teams are going to need
to win and win at a high level. And I mean,
you you can't you can't be a bottom feeder team
and say oh, we're gonna take the league to new heights.
You have to win. Everybody loves a winner. And so
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if they start to win, yeah, and we we're seeing
steps years past, they were complaining, oh, we take commercial flights,
we don't get chartered. For what has happened now, well
they don't all have chartered flights yet. Yeah, they do
the whole entire w ANBA. Now it's higher w NBA,
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every single team. And so that's a step in the
right direction right there. And so you're gonna have to win.
But it takes time. Man like you twenty twenty one,
twenty two. You playing against grown women at a thirty
thirty three, thirty four. This is what they do. This
is their livelihoods.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And so.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I can see that taking place. It's just going to
take time. It's going to take time. But the Caitlin Clark,
like she's earned everything that's been given to her. Bro
She's earned it. Like I want to see somebody go
take a nondescript school and do what she did. I
want to see that. We haven't seen it. All I
do is watch sports. I don't I don't watch nothing.
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Else really on TV sports when it's sports not on.
You know, my wife and my ku like we love
to watch, like Survivor, The Challenge, anything that's competitive we watching.
That's what we watch.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
On what on?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
He won on one of them, two shows that his name.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
One of them.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It was one of them because you know, watching Survivor,
were watching the Challenge, were watching Big Brother in sports.
That's what we watch in our house now when I
go to bed, I don't know what they watch, but
that's what we're watching when I'm up.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I'm up right, yeah, I must say. Can I say this?
Can I because I know we're up on the break,
But let me say this. I I hear what you're saying.
I'm a first start saying I'm a start off. I said.
I could be a horrible person for saying this, but
you know me, I always shoot from the hip. Angel
Rees and Caitlin Clark are not on a Magic Johnson
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Larry Bird level. I don't think that the w n
b A, and I know this might sound horrible, I
don't think that the w n B A is relevant
enough or could be relevant enough where it matters enough,
and I feel is the time I feel I feel
as though that this is almost a compensation to the
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lack of relevance that the league holds. While you have
so many gifted and talented players in the NBAWNBA, the
one focus has always or not always, but has currently
really been around Caitlin Clark, Like her getting knocked to
the ground and the girl Kennedy getting is that her
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name Kennedy Kennedy Carter. That's kind of crazy the coincidence
of it. She gets, she gets ejected from the game. Okay,
that that should not be a headline that continues to
linger on for more than a day. That's not significant enough.
The team isn't relevant enough, the game wasn't relevant enough.
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And yet it is a story that people have grabbed
and ran with. Your trying all these questions that the
head coach has to stop them from asking, ask out
the rest of the game. Who won the game? How
many points did the leading scorer have in the game,
who was the most talented player in the game. What's
the relevance of it to the game. But that's not
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what's taking place here. What's taking place here is that
people are so enamored or so taken by Kitlyn Clark,
or so into whatever the agenda is that's connected to
Caitlyn Clark for one reason or another, deservingly not deservingly,
I don't care. It just seems to me that it's
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getting to the point of where it's forced. And while
we can sit here and say Caitlyn Clark one hundred
percent deserves all of the credit that she receives and
the attention that she receives, can there be damage being
done to her career based upon the idea that they're
not giving her really an opportunity to be a superstar
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that adjusts and adapts and integrates into being a professional ballplayer.
Take it from me. I was as big as it
gets coming out of college. And let me tell you something.
You know what people thought I had to do for
me to have a successful career as a campaign. I
had to leap over the line every single play. I
heard it from multiple people. I had to do plays
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that were just unbelievable, extraordinary feats of athleticism for me
to live up to the expectation I'm going to Pro
Bowls every year. I ended up going to Pro Bowls,
and yet and still it wasn't good enough. And I
think a lot of it was based upon and now
I wasn't a national national coverage like or to the
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coverage of anything near what Caitlyn Clark is, but just
understanding how that feels in a role that can play
and putting her in a position where what you're talking
about TJ even talking about her not going with the
USA team and all those different things. Once the expectations
have been put to the highest level of levels and
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that that exists for Caitlyn Clark, there's a strong possibility
that she will never achieve that level.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And that's okay, and that's for her.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
It's a shame because it steals away her having the
opportunity to really be revered and really be respected and
looked a.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
High level athlete. Man, that that's the life. But say
what you want to say, Caitlin Clark's supposed to be
on that Olympic team. You can't. There's no way possible
she shouldn't be on that team. No, like what like,
come on, man, but again, you earn everything you get
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in this life. You earn it. She put the work in, Man,
you want to be like her, Go put the work in,
Go put the work in. Like the best players in
the world, they are what they are very simple man.
Hard work and effort. That's what it is. Is it's
a hard working effort and everybody wont it, but they
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not willing to put themselves through that hard working effort,
that dedication. You wake up, Ah, I do it tomorrow.
The best players in the world, they're doing it now.
They get up and do it. And they getting up
and doing it. And the players that want to be
the best in the world, they doing it tomorrow. Ah
do it the next day. That's the difference, man, that's
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the difference.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Well, we're gonna have to see how that all plays out,
because I think there has to be it has to
be a lot of stars that align in order for
this to turn out in a way where I believe
Caitlin Clark comes out on top in this scenario. But
that's just one man's opinion. You heard TJ's opinion. You
heard mine. We are in the Tyraq dot com studios.
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We're gonna take a quick break and on the other
side of it, we're gonna continue the conversation about basketball. Obviously,
we are in the finals and it is the Mavericks
and it is the Celtic, So we'll talk about that
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Speaker 4 (17:54):
All right, welcome back in. It's up on Game Live
from the tirag dot com studio. It's TJ. Hushman's out.
I'm LeVar Arrington, Stretch, Armstrong, Pleux, Koe Burrs is at
a track meet. He's out today. Yes, we generally have cuffs.
The legend making appearance as well to talk basketball. But
he's out of graduation also as well, So shouts out
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to him and congratulations to the graduate. Uh yeah, but
show must go on, and we got to talk some basketball.
Uh we've been talking. We we opened the show talking
about the matchup between the MAVs and the Cash, the
MAVs and the Calves, the MAVs and the Celtics, And
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I guess so used to to dropping bars TJ. I
was really like I was ready to drop a ball
MAVs and Calves, you know, like anyway, Uh so, looking
at this matchup we talked about, you talked about it
would be it would be disastrous for Dallas to actually
try to be uncharacteristic with how they play, out of
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character for how they play if they're going to have
a chance to win, I say, they needed to change
some of the characteristics and adapt what it is that
they're going to do to see if they can win
the fight. Like as I win the game, and I
say fight, because I started thinking to myself, it wasn't
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characteristic for Muhammad Ali to go on to the ropes
and do a rope a dope on George Foreman. In fact,
it was so uncharacteristic he didn't know what Muhammad was
doing and didn't figure it out until he was too
tired to defense himself. And Muhammad had prepared to be
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punched and hit and ended up having enough, you know,
stamina to beat up on George Foreman at the end
of the fight. I feel like this is what has
to happen because you only have two players that can
actually end theory, do enough to win against the Celtics,
and we all know that's Luka Doncics and Kyrie Irving.
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If you take one of them out defensively, if you
if you, if you go at, if you feel like
you can go at Kyrie, which it look like is
go at Kyrie. Limit Kyrie to the things he's able
to do, make sure that your your sound against him.
And if Luka Doncics goes off for thirty some points,
we're gonna win. If he goes off for forty points,
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we're gonna win. That seems to be the strategy going
up against the Mavericks. I think they gotta make it
a slower game. They got to create sets, and that's
what I think instead of going fast paced and hoping
that Kyrie can do what Kyrie always does. Because I
think they're gonna limit that.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Kyrie's gonna play better now, He's not gonna continue to
play how he played in Game one. He'll he'll for
sure play better. This is the thing. Dallas lost Game
one against Oklahoma City, no panic, and they come back
and win this series. Tomorrow's game is pivotal because I
want to see if, obviously, you have to make adjustments
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when when you go into a game and you lose
the way they lost and they're pretty much blown out,
made it look like it was close, but the game
was never really close, do you make big adjustments because
if you make big adjustments, it's as if what you
thought going into the series was completely off. So do
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you make a little subtle adjustments and say, hey, if
we can just do this, we're right there in the game.
And so that will tell me what they think about
how they lost Game one, Like, was it we just
didn't make shots? Luca had one assists, bro one assists.
He averages just under ten. He had one assists, and
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so again Luca, he gonna get his Like I said,
it's going to play better. PJ. Washington, Dereck Jones, Lively, Gafford.
Those guys are gonna have to give them something. Tim
Hardaway has been like he's been nonexistent. He was in
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a rotation and he kind of fell out of the rotation.
He got some minut here, like they're gonna need somebody
to step up. Because Boston, again what we said earlier,
not only do they have guys that lock up on defense,
those same guys can explode on offense. Like Drew Holliday's
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a defensive player, he can get you thirty. Derek White's
a defensive player, he can get you thirty. The same
for Tatum, the same for Jalen Brown. And so I
believe it's an uphill battle for the Mavericks. And again
I said this when it was we had cuffs on
a couple of weeks ago. I said, the Celtics are
winning the championship, man, like nobody's gonna beat them. And
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I still feel that way. Dallas can make this competitive.
I just feel like the advantages that they had against Minnesota,
it was more so Minnesota just being a young team
not being seasoned enough to stay disciplined in their responsibilities
in what they want to do. That was Boston a
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few years ago. Now, Boston is a mature season team. Now,
they're not gonna make those same mistakes that the Minnesota
Timberwolves made in their series because Boston has already made
these mistakes in previous years and so they've learned from that.
And so I just don't see a way Dallas can
win this series. But I do see Dallas because when
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you have Luca and Kyrie and one of the best
point guards as your head coaching, Jason Kidd, you're gonna
figure out a way to make this work. But you
don't have a manpower. Man, it's just something. They just
better than you, and sometimes that happensis have been picked
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to win a championship what the last two or three years, yep,
And I believe this is their.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Year, all right. Well, if it were to be the
Dallas Mavericks that take it, it would be, as you mentioned,
Kyrie Irving having a better series, a better game than
what he did the other day. Now, what's interesting about
that is, well Lebron James had some interesting things to
say about Kyrie Irving. Kendrick Perkins took exception to it.
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We're going to touch on that, but first let's get
an update from our guy Nick Cope.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Thank you, LeVar multiple reports today saying Caitlin Clark will
not be on Team USA's twelve player roster for the
upcoming Olympics in Paris. USA Today says that concern over
hound Clark's fans would react to likely limited minutes on
a stacked roster was a factor in the decision making.
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a third straight year and for the fourth time in
the last five years. A cruising victory over Jazz and
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in London. You can catch this game on Fox. Following
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that game, it's the Belmont Stakes at four. Eastern PGA
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not provide specific details about their meeting on Friday. Third
round of the Memorial Tournament is underway. Scottie Scheffler just
about to tee off here in the next ten minutes.
He is your leader, three shots clear of Victor Hovelan
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Scheffler at nine under, Hovelin at six under at the
top of the leader board, and you've got super regional
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Currently Evansville leading the number one overall ced Tennessee eight
to five in the sixth inning. Florida State to with
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Yukon seven runs a piece in the eighth inning. If
Tennessee and Florida State each win today, they will advance
to Omaha. He also have NC State blowing out Georgia
twelve nothing in the fourth inning. A lot of more
games still to come today and tonight we've got game
one of the Stanley Cup Final at eighties tern. The
Oilers and the Panthers will skate in Florida. Now let's
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go back to LeVar Errington and TJ. Huschmann Zada.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Appreciate it, Nick, enjoy your day, sir. Yeah, let's talk
about this. So I mentioned Kendrick Perkins. He had some
interesting things to say about Lebron James as it applied
to Kyrie Irving. Don't take my word for it. Let's
listen to Helm himself.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Here we go again, Bro, he's lying his way into
somebody else moment, like, let somebody else like. This is
not about you. Your team is at home. This is
about the MAVs and the Celtics. But yet you so
man and disappointed that you're not Kyrie Irving running mate.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
No more?
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Here we go again, all right? I thought it was
an interesting SoundBite. It seems as though it's hard to
figure out who's pro Lebron and who is not a
fan of Lebron. At times. Sometimes you think one guy
is and maybe something else happens this, that and the other.
This is one of those latest moments where the media
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seems to think that Lebron James is constantly trying to
garner attention, especially in the off season, in some way
somehow keep the attention on him. If it's not about
the possible hiring of Danny Hurley and how that could
play into the role of him staying in LA and
his son coming and being drafted or ending up with
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the LA Lakers. Now it's him having Kyrie as still
as his running buddy, is his running mate, and hating
that he doesn't have that scenario anymore. I know you're
a big Lakers fan. I'm pretty certain you're a Lebron fan.
You're on the pro side of Lebron. What's your take
on like him being, you know, Kendrick taking aim on
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him for basically having those comments about Kyrie Irving being,
you know, being as though he's not still playing and
Kyrie is in the finals.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Man Lebron only said was damn, I wish I was
still this teammates some of that nature.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Correct, Yes, he hated that they're not teammates because he was.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
It's still yeah, because it was a known thing that
last year Kyrie wanted to play for the Lakers, and
obviously they didn't think the contract that he wanted he
was worth that. So basically how I took it was
it was letting the Lakers know y'all didn't won't even
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look where he's at.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I wish it was a shot, So was a shot
at at the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
That's how I took it. I didn't take it everything
that Lebron says. It's like everybody over examines it and
maybe I.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Just take that take. But that's a good take.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
But Kyrie wanted to play with the Lakers last year.
Yes he did, and they didn't want to give him
the contract he wanted. And so that was his way
of saying, like, man, we should basically he should be
he should be on our team.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And so okay, but but let's be clear here though,
to Kendrick Perkins's point, is that even relevant right now?
Like cat, you just wish that man in good luck
and have a great series and hope something good happens
for you. Like what are you making about the the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Ain't playing, because it's it's every time, Oh, Lebron wanted
this guy on the team, it don't work. They talk
about that to the end of name. Oh Lebron wanted
this guy, it didn't work. Oh Lebron wanted to do
this trade, it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Well, Lebron wanted wanted this coach, it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Lebron wanted Kyrie on the team, and y'all didn't want
to do that. So now look at it now, and
so I mean, but again, when you Lebron James, anything
you say, somebody can always pick it apart and will
and they yeah, and they will listening. Like I'm a
(30:16):
fan of sports, I'm a fan of basketball, I'm a
Laker fan. Forced the Farmers. I've always liked Lebron, but
if he wasn't on the Lakers, I mean it'd be whatever.
I'm a Laker fan, so it's about this is bigger.
This thing is bigger than Lebron James. But yeah, like
I'm a Laker fan, I'm just a fan of sportsman.
I don't know why I'm like this. I mean, it
could be because I didn't play a ton of sports
(30:37):
growing up that I love him so much. Now, I
wasn't forced to go train and forced to do this
and forced to do that once I started playing at
such a late age. It just you know, I've always
loved it. But yeah, man, I just look at when
you're Lebron James and he knows this. Everything you say
is gonna be a randomlyzed man everything.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Okay, So before we go to break, because we are
up against the break, what's your take on the Danny
Hurley situation because we did not get to it. That
was the one story. It was the one story I
wanted us to get to at the end of the
last hour.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
That's interesting, LeVar, because I know Lebron has made comments
about Danny Hurley like certain offensive sets they were doing
a you kind of like, man, that's a great set,
that's a great play. But if where is it coming
(31:30):
from so late in the process?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Like why are we just late in the process?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But who who put this out there? Did who put
this out there to put pressure on one or one another?
The Lakers or Hurley? Somebody put this out.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
There because it looked like it was going to be
JJ ready, right, JJ Reddy does the show with Lebron.
Everybody knows there's a connection there. And then all of
a sudden, pow, breaking news, Danny Hurley hit. Somebody was
behind the scenes negotiating, somebody was was having conversations about
this to get this to where it got to where
(32:04):
he came in, flew in because it was the next day.
He flew in the next day to meet with the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Now you know you said it earlier, you know the Lakers. Impossibly,
Bronnie Curly his showed himself to be a great developer
of young talent. Could that be one of the reasons
why y'all say Lebron is running the show Lebron may't
want him? Is because he's developed some lottery picks down
(32:35):
in Yukon and Lebron can see him working with Bronni
and making his son a better player. That could be
the case.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Also Lebron his I think that's one the case.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
And I think he ever basketball is set, man.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
You know, he can opt out. You know he can
opt out.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah. When I say his place in basketball, I'm talking
his story now.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
No, Yeah, I know what you said.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, he wants his son, he wants his son to succeeds. Correct,
And we all, we all do like, oh, he's doing
this for your son, wouldn't you?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah? Absolutely, of course we all would if I.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Could Nepotism at his finest. And I don't blame them.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Yeah, I mean there's guys running teams in the NFL,
in the leagues that that are you know, their their
legacy guys. Hey. But but here's here's my last point
to that. And I'm curious, do you think when I
said opt out, the idea that Lebron James could opt
out and become a free agent and test the market
(33:31):
if I if I understand it correctly, do you feel
as though what you just said may play it a
major part and him saying, look, y'all want me to
come back, sell these tickets, keep keep the Lakers a
hot ticket for another season. Y'all bring my son in here,
and y'all bring in Danny Hurley because Danny h'm.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
They're going to try to do everything that Lebron wants.
You only can do so much. Now, do you want
Hurley or you want JJ Reddick? Which one is it?
You know? Because like this Hurley thing, it caught me
by surprise because it was it's so late in the process.
The Final Four was over months ago. The Lakers season
was over months ago, right, well, it seems like months ago.
(34:12):
It's like, where is this coming from? Or has it been,
like I said, in the process, and they've just been
kind of negotiating, you know, behind closed doors so to speak.
It's a I'm interested to see because I just assume, yeah,
it's gonna be jj Reddick. It's for sure gonna be
jj Reddick. But what Herly did in Yukon is remarkable.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Man.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
He turned that program around there really really good, and
they kind of fell off and like back to back
we went't in college basketball. You don't see this.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
And like.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
It will be like they eight years, one hundred million.
The Lakers are really gonna pay that because you know
when you when you think of the Lakers, it's like
you were giving you an opportunity to for us, but
we were putting you on the map when you coach
our team type of thing. That's that kind of seems
like that's the Lakers' mentality outside of Phil Jackson. And
(35:10):
so these next what would you say, seventy two hours,
we're gonna gonna be very interesting to see how see
what happens. I'm sure JJ Reddick thought the gig was
his and this comes out, it's probably like, oh, hold up,
not so fast. But Lebron is who he is, and
(35:30):
once again he's earned it. And so when you had
a type of equity that he has, it's unlimited.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
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am LeVar Arrington as well. And this is up on Game.
On the other side of the break, we're gonna talk
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Speaker 2 (36:45):
None for some picks. Are you up on game?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Let's break this up.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Let's break it up, down on game, get down?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
All right, lead the lab. What we got going into
this game with the finals of the Mavericks and this
he will take He's taking place well, fellas.
Speaker 9 (36:58):
Obviously Kyrie Irving struggled in game one and many are
high on him rebounding so to speak, in game two.
His point total for game two is over under said
at twenty two and a half. What are you guys
thinking Ooh, that's.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
A good one.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Oh, he'll go over that easy.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
He'll go over it easy.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah, Yeah, he'll get about twenty eight twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah, I'm gonna take the over on that too. It
might be it might be nearly, it might be a barely,
but I'm gonna take the over as well.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
Guys, very low assists for the uh for the Mavericks
in game one. In fact, Luca only had one assist.
They've set it up pretty high in game two. It's
at eight and a half. Eight and a half assists
for Luka Doncic in game two.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I think the Celtics are they want to make a
point emphasis Luca's gonna beat us, beat us if he does.
We don't want to let a lot of guys get
involved off of Luca passing the bar. I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Under ooh, I just think that this has to be
the stand. They got to show that they can get
it done in this game. Part of that is Luca's
ability to draw the defenders to him and create those
easy buckets for his teammates. I'm taking the over all, right, guys.
Speaker 9 (38:13):
Chris Stops was a big storyline coming back from his injury.
Stringed Calf, big game for him in Game one, some
highlight blocks right now, he's over under on blocks in
game two.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Is at one and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
One and a half. Yeah, I say over. I think
you'll get two blocks. You should be able to get. Yeah,
that's tough because they Yeah, I'm gonna just say I'll
go over. I'm not too sure that one though, and.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
I'm gonna take the over on it. I think he
gets at least two.
Speaker 9 (38:49):
How about three pointers Derek White? He's kind of been
hitting it. I mean, obviously the whole team was hitting
it from deep. How about three pointers for Derek White
in Game two?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Two and a half.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
The Celtics are a big three point shooting team. Derek White.
He gonna you know, he's gonna fire up about seven
or eight. So I'm i'm gonna say over, I'll go
over that. I can see Derek White knocking down three threes.
I can see that.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
I can see it.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
But I'm gonna take the under. How about let's go
Jason Tatum. Tatum rebounds for Game twos at nine and
a half.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You know, Jason Tatum is the leading rebounder for the
Boston Celtics, so I'll say.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Over nine and a half, nine and a half. He
was money in the first game. I think he did
lead the team and rebounds in for in Game one.
I O, I'm gonna say nine and a half. I'm
gonna take the under. I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 9 (39:48):
Guys, be we talked about this on on our two
Pros and a Cup of Joe. Number of buzzer beaters.
Game winning buzzer beaters are just getting into overtime buzzer
beaters for the remainder of the series at a house.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Oh, I'm gonna say under. I don't see none of
the buzzer that's rare. I'ld say I'm going under on that.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I'mua stay real with that too. I'm gonna I'm gonna
go with the under on that one as well. I
don't I don't see it being a buzzer beater game.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Point total for Game two is at two fourteen.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
And a half. Oh, shoot fourteen.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, I might have to follow that train on that one,
follow that cab beat beat under.
Speaker 9 (40:32):
All right, guys, what else we got technicals? Technicals in
Game two? Any technicals had a half? Will there be
any technicals. Is there is there a number set at
a half a half?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I'm gonna say that's gonna go under. Somebody gonna be
Somebody from the Mavericks is gonna be mad that they
gonna get cooked again. So yeah, they gonna they gonna
make a fuss about it. Yeah, I'll go I'll go over.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I'm gonna take an over on that. And I don't
know why, but I'm gonna take the over on it.
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All right, here we go hour two on the move
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a lot to get to all right, Uh, TJ, let's
just jump right to it. I don't I don't want
to mess around with it. Let's let's get to it.
The coverage of Caitlyn Clark and her rookie season. It
(01:09):
continues to be a very very large topic of conversation,
so much so that now you have legends like Teresa Witherspoon,
who obviously is the head coach of the Sky we
know what took place in that game. Let's take a
listen to what she had to say and what happened,
(01:30):
what took place at the press conference as it applied
to Caitlyn Clark, and then let's let's have a little
little discussion on the whole Caitlyn Clark phenomenon. Right here
we go, and then Kennedy give you an opportunity to
talk about that moment.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Continue and kate the ones on that play. What was
said and kind of what led.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
To next question.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, I answer clark questions, she said, I don't know
what she said what.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
We're good?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
All right, Here's what she also had to say. This
is the next clip of what coach Weatherspoon had to say.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Unfortunately, Kennedy got caught up into a heated moment because
what we teaching here is to have a cool head
and a hot game cool head in.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Any situation, and that didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
So there was a conversation between myself and Kennedy of
how we conduct ourselves that was not appropriate.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
We don't do that, we don't act like that, we
don't conduct ourselves like that. And the message is clear.
Message is very clear. Lesson learned. We want to move
on a very positive way.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Been great examples, and we step between those four lines
and do things the right.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Way, all right. So, and she is a legend, by
the way, I mean, if you know anything about women's basketball,
Teresa Weatherspoon was was a beast like up there with
like the likes of obviously you know, Sheryl Swoops and
all of them. I mean, she's is a legend, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So, So the point is here, Here's here's what I
want to throw out at you, TJ. The coverage of
Caitlyn Clark. Is it about her as an athlete? Is
the coverage of Caitlyn Clark about her as as a
star w NBA rookie or is this about something else?
(03:24):
Because I just feel like there is this overload of coverage.
There is this idea that that I don't know that
the narrative has to be based upon Caitlyn Clark and
it and it starts to come across as what what
(03:46):
is the agenda. That's the first thing that I asked
myself this question, is it to make women's basketball more relevant?
I came to the conclusion that it's not because to me,
if this was really about making women's basketball more relevant.
Then the storylines that people are chasing for Caitlyn Clark,
(04:08):
the headlines that are hitting for Caitlyn Clark, would be
vastly different. It would be it would be more based
upon what she needs to do and how she needs
to do it, and how it's been done in the past.
There have been great athletes that have come from college
that had to adjust and adapt to a, by the way,
(04:30):
a very physical pro level league style of play and.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Have done so.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You know, the first names I think of is Shamika
Holsklaw or or Candice Parker, or even like a Sue
Bird or a Diana Tarazi. They've all had to come
through the ranks of playing in the league, not like this,
not as far as coverage, not as far as coverage,
not like this. Okay, talk about it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Let me say this first. The viewers and the listeners
that tune in every week, Man, we thank you' all
for that. Another reason I'm saying this, I'm getting text
messages as we're on air. I'm saying they listening are
God Dave Couello at FS one producer, but the people
that listen to us on a weekly basis, we thank
(05:18):
you for that. This is what I'll say, is Caitlyn Clark,
She's an enigma. Man Like, it is like people are
jealous and I don't even know if jealous is the
right action. They don't like that she's getting so much coverage.
(05:44):
But it's Aaron bro She earned this. She earned this. Like,
if you you want to be in a position that
she's in, go do what she did. All athletes, we
are all afforded the same opportunities. She went to Iowa
and she took a women's basketball team and put them
(06:04):
all the back.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Say she did a blue blood approach to make Iowa relevant.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
She She's earned this. She's earned this off the back
of her hard work. Man Like, I don't people see
the game. They see the game. You don't see what
goes into me being able to play this way in
the game. You don't see the summers of work that
I put in when the season is over, you don't
(06:32):
see that. You don't see how hard we're not any
athlete works, let's specifically clay Caitlin Clark. Let's just keep
it on her. We don't see her running at what
we would call them. I don't know what they call
them now suicides or jayhawks. They call them suicide of jayhawk.
We don't see that. And then go shoot five hundred
(06:55):
shots a day. We don't see that. We don't see
that behind the scenes hard work that this young lady
has put in day after day, month after month, year
after year. We don't see that. And it's not just her,
there's plenty others that are doing it. But she took Iowa,
a non basketball school, to the top of the food chain.
(07:19):
Come up short. They did they win it all? No,
but what she did was remarkable and so because of that,
she goes into the WNBA with extreme popularity and her
team isn't winning, but she's holding her own and she
turning the ball over a bit much yet she'll figure
that out, but it's to me, it's good for the game.
(07:42):
But people want well I didn't get this attention. They
didn't talk about me like this. Well you didn't do
what Caitlyn Clark did, because if you did, they would
be talking about you like this. And so Angel rees
Caitlyn Clark. They are a big reason a lot of
(08:03):
people are watching women's basketball in a WNBA. Now, they're
a big reason of that. You would probably if we
had to give a percent, I would probably say sixty
forty Kaitlin Tangel Reese. And that's not a bad thing, Like,
it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Do you think they have the type of influence the
type of gravity that a Larry Bird and coincidentally one
happens to be white, one happens to be black, But
I mean, it is what it is. Do you think
they have the same type of draw the same type
of kind of gravity that could actually get the WNBA
(08:40):
to a place that Magic and Bird did for the
NBA before it was before it was Michael Jordan who
made the NBA super super relevant and brought it into
mainstream the way that he did. It was Larry Bird
and Magic Johnson that made the NBA took it to
the events level that it did and it never turned
(09:02):
back like that's been what the standard was. And that
was kind of like where it all started and where
it began where you had you think they're that major.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's possible, it's possible, but this was Their teams are
gonna need to win. Their teams are going to need
to win and win at a high level. And I mean,
you you can't you can't be a bottom feeder team
and say oh, we're gonna take the league to new heights.
You have to win. Everybody loves a winner. And so
(09:36):
if they start to win, yeah, and we we're seeing
steps years past, they were complaining, oh, we take commercial flights,
we don't get chartered. For what has happened now, well
they don't all have chartered flights yet. Yeah, they do
the whole entire w ANBA. Now it's higher w NBA,
(09:57):
every single team. And so that's a step in the
right direction right there. And so you're gonna have to win.
But it takes time. Man like you twenty twenty one,
twenty two. You playing against grown women at a thirty
thirty three, thirty four. This is what they do. This
is their livelihoods.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And so.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I can see that taking place. It's just going to
take time. It's going to take time. But the Caitlin Clark,
like she's earned everything that's been given to her. Bro
She's earned it. Like I want to see somebody go
take a nondescript school and do what she did. I
want to see that. We haven't seen it. All I
do is watch sports. I don't I don't watch nothing.
(10:41):
Else really on TV sports when it's sports not on.
You know, my wife and my ku like we love
to watch, like Survivor, The Challenge, anything that's competitive we watching.
That's what we watch.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
On what on?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
He won on one of them, two shows that his name.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
One of them.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It was one of them because you know, watching Survivor,
were watching the Challenge, were watching Big Brother in sports.
That's what we watch in our house now when I
go to bed, I don't know what they watch, but
that's what we're watching when I'm up.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I'm up right, yeah, I must say. Can I say this?
Can I because I know we're up on the break,
But let me say this. I I hear what you're saying.
I'm a first start saying I'm a start off. I said.
I could be a horrible person for saying this, but
you know me, I always shoot from the hip. Angel
Rees and Caitlin Clark are not on a Magic Johnson
(11:39):
Larry Bird level. I don't think that the w n
b A, and I know this might sound horrible, I
don't think that the w n B A is relevant
enough or could be relevant enough where it matters enough,
and I feel is the time I feel I feel
as though that this is almost a compensation to the
(12:03):
lack of relevance that the league holds. While you have
so many gifted and talented players in the NBAWNBA, the
one focus has always or not always, but has currently
really been around Caitlin Clark, Like her getting knocked to
the ground and the girl Kennedy getting is that her
(12:25):
name Kennedy Kennedy Carter. That's kind of crazy the coincidence
of it. She gets, she gets ejected from the game. Okay,
that that should not be a headline that continues to
linger on for more than a day. That's not significant enough.
The team isn't relevant enough, the game wasn't relevant enough.
(12:49):
And yet it is a story that people have grabbed
and ran with. Your trying all these questions that the
head coach has to stop them from asking, ask out
the rest of the game. Who won the game? How
many points did the leading scorer have in the game,
who was the most talented player in the game. What's
the relevance of it to the game. But that's not
(13:11):
what's taking place here. What's taking place here is that
people are so enamored or so taken by Kitlyn Clark,
or so into whatever the agenda is that's connected to
Caitlyn Clark for one reason or another, deservingly not deservingly,
I don't care. It just seems to me that it's
(13:32):
getting to the point of where it's forced. And while
we can sit here and say Caitlyn Clark one hundred
percent deserves all of the credit that she receives and
the attention that she receives, can there be damage being
done to her career based upon the idea that they're
not giving her really an opportunity to be a superstar
(13:54):
that adjusts and adapts and integrates into being a professional ballplayer.
Take it from me. I was as big as it
gets coming out of college. And let me tell you something.
You know what people thought I had to do for
me to have a successful career as a campaign. I
had to leap over the line every single play. I
heard it from multiple people. I had to do plays
(14:17):
that were just unbelievable, extraordinary feats of athleticism for me
to live up to the expectation I'm going to Pro
Bowls every year. I ended up going to Pro Bowls,
and yet and still it wasn't good enough. And I
think a lot of it was based upon and now
I wasn't a national national coverage like or to the
(14:37):
coverage of anything near what Caitlyn Clark is, but just
understanding how that feels in a role that can play
and putting her in a position where what you're talking
about TJ even talking about her not going with the
USA team and all those different things. Once the expectations
have been put to the highest level of levels and
(14:58):
that that exists for Caitlyn Clark, there's a strong possibility
that she will never achieve that level.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And that's okay, and that's for her.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
It's a shame because it steals away her having the
opportunity to really be revered and really be respected and
looked a.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
High level athlete. Man, that that's the life. But say
what you want to say, Caitlin Clark's supposed to be
on that Olympic team. You can't. There's no way possible
she shouldn't be on that team. No, like what like,
come on, man, but again, you earn everything you get
(15:40):
in this life. You earn it. She put the work in, Man,
you want to be like her, Go put the work in,
Go put the work in. Like the best players in
the world, they are what they are very simple man.
Hard work and effort. That's what it is. Is it's
a hard working effort and everybody wont it, but they
(16:04):
not willing to put themselves through that hard working effort,
that dedication. You wake up, Ah, I do it tomorrow.
The best players in the world, they're doing it now.
They get up and do it. And they getting up
and doing it. And the players that want to be
the best in the world, they doing it tomorrow. Ah
do it the next day. That's the difference, man, that's
(16:25):
the difference.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Well, we're gonna have to see how that all plays out,
because I think there has to be it has to
be a lot of stars that align in order for
this to turn out in a way where I believe
Caitlin Clark comes out on top in this scenario. But
that's just one man's opinion. You heard TJ's opinion. You
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Speaker 4 (17:54):
All right, welcome back in. It's up on Game Live
from the tirag dot com studio. It's TJ. Hushman's out.
I'm LeVar Arrington, Stretch, Armstrong, Pleux, Koe Burrs is at
a track meet. He's out today. Yes, we generally have cuffs.
The legend making appearance as well to talk basketball. But
he's out of graduation also as well, So shouts out
(18:17):
to him and congratulations to the graduate. Uh yeah, but
show must go on, and we got to talk some basketball.
Uh we've been talking. We we opened the show talking
about the matchup between the MAVs and the Cash, the
MAVs and the Calves, the MAVs and the Celtics, And
(18:37):
I guess so used to to dropping bars TJ. I
was really like I was ready to drop a ball
MAVs and Calves, you know, like anyway, Uh so, looking
at this matchup we talked about, you talked about it
would be it would be disastrous for Dallas to actually
try to be uncharacteristic with how they play, out of
(19:00):
character for how they play if they're going to have
a chance to win, I say, they needed to change
some of the characteristics and adapt what it is that
they're going to do to see if they can win
the fight. Like as I win the game, and I
say fight, because I started thinking to myself, it wasn't
(19:20):
characteristic for Muhammad Ali to go on to the ropes
and do a rope a dope on George Foreman. In fact,
it was so uncharacteristic he didn't know what Muhammad was
doing and didn't figure it out until he was too
tired to defense himself. And Muhammad had prepared to be
(19:41):
punched and hit and ended up having enough, you know,
stamina to beat up on George Foreman at the end
of the fight. I feel like this is what has
to happen because you only have two players that can
actually end theory, do enough to win against the Celtics,
and we all know that's Luka Doncics and Kyrie Irving.
(20:04):
If you take one of them out defensively, if you
if you, if you go at, if you feel like
you can go at Kyrie, which it look like is
go at Kyrie. Limit Kyrie to the things he's able
to do, make sure that your your sound against him.
And if Luka Doncics goes off for thirty some points,
we're gonna win. If he goes off for forty points,
(20:26):
we're gonna win. That seems to be the strategy going
up against the Mavericks. I think they gotta make it
a slower game. They got to create sets, and that's
what I think instead of going fast paced and hoping
that Kyrie can do what Kyrie always does. Because I
think they're gonna limit that.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Kyrie's gonna play better now, He's not gonna continue to
play how he played in Game one. He'll he'll for
sure play better. This is the thing. Dallas lost Game
one against Oklahoma City, no panic, and they come back
and win this series. Tomorrow's game is pivotal because I
want to see if, obviously, you have to make adjustments
(21:10):
when when you go into a game and you lose
the way they lost and they're pretty much blown out,
made it look like it was close, but the game
was never really close, do you make big adjustments because
if you make big adjustments, it's as if what you
thought going into the series was completely off. So do
(21:32):
you make a little subtle adjustments and say, hey, if
we can just do this, we're right there in the game.
And so that will tell me what they think about
how they lost Game one, Like, was it we just
didn't make shots? Luca had one assists, bro one assists.
He averages just under ten. He had one assists, and
(21:56):
so again Luca, he gonna get his Like I said,
it's going to play better. PJ. Washington, Dereck Jones, Lively, Gafford.
Those guys are gonna have to give them something. Tim
Hardaway has been like he's been nonexistent. He was in
(22:16):
a rotation and he kind of fell out of the rotation.
He got some minut here, like they're gonna need somebody
to step up. Because Boston, again what we said earlier,
not only do they have guys that lock up on defense,
those same guys can explode on offense. Like Drew Holliday's
(22:38):
a defensive player, he can get you thirty. Derek White's
a defensive player, he can get you thirty. The same
for Tatum, the same for Jalen Brown. And so I
believe it's an uphill battle for the Mavericks. And again
I said this when it was we had cuffs on
a couple of weeks ago. I said, the Celtics are
winning the championship, man, like nobody's gonna beat them. And
(22:58):
I still feel that way. Dallas can make this competitive.
I just feel like the advantages that they had against Minnesota,
it was more so Minnesota just being a young team
not being seasoned enough to stay disciplined in their responsibilities
in what they want to do. That was Boston a
(23:19):
few years ago. Now, Boston is a mature season team. Now,
they're not gonna make those same mistakes that the Minnesota
Timberwolves made in their series because Boston has already made
these mistakes in previous years and so they've learned from that.
And so I just don't see a way Dallas can
win this series. But I do see Dallas because when
(23:40):
you have Luca and Kyrie and one of the best
point guards as your head coaching, Jason Kidd, you're gonna
figure out a way to make this work. But you
don't have a manpower. Man, it's just something. They just
better than you, and sometimes that happensis have been picked
(24:00):
to win a championship what the last two or three years, yep,
And I believe this is their.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Year, all right. Well, if it were to be the
Dallas Mavericks that take it, it would be, as you mentioned,
Kyrie Irving having a better series, a better game than
what he did the other day. Now, what's interesting about
that is, well Lebron James had some interesting things to
say about Kyrie Irving. Kendrick Perkins took exception to it.
(24:28):
We're going to touch on that, but first let's get
an update from our guy Nick Cope.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Thank you, LeVar multiple reports today saying Caitlin Clark will
not be on Team USA's twelve player roster for the
upcoming Olympics in Paris. USA Today says that concern over
hound Clark's fans would react to likely limited minutes on
a stacked roster was a factor in the decision making.
In tennis, ECUs Fiantek has won the French Open for
(24:54):
a third straight year and for the fourth time in
the last five years. A cruising victory over Jazz and
Paalini in an hour and seven Minutesiantek becomes a third
woman to win three straight titles at Roland Garrows, joining
Justin Enen and Monica Sellis. In baseball, the Mets have
grabbed the early one to nothing lead on the Phillies
in London. You can catch this game on Fox. Following
(25:17):
that game, it's the Belmont Stakes at four. Eastern PGA
Tour said in a statement today that discussions with the
Saundi Public Investment Fund continue to progress, though they did
not provide specific details about their meeting on Friday. Third
round of the Memorial Tournament is underway. Scottie Scheffler just
about to tee off here in the next ten minutes.
He is your leader, three shots clear of Victor Hovelan
(25:40):
Scheffler at nine under, Hovelin at six under at the
top of the leader board, and you've got super regional
action for college baseball. Eight tickets will be punched to
the College World Series by the end of the weekend.
Currently Evansville leading the number one overall ced Tennessee eight
to five in the sixth inning. Florida State to with
(26:00):
Yukon seven runs a piece in the eighth inning. If
Tennessee and Florida State each win today, they will advance
to Omaha. He also have NC State blowing out Georgia
twelve nothing in the fourth inning. A lot of more
games still to come today and tonight we've got game
one of the Stanley Cup Final at eighties tern. The
Oilers and the Panthers will skate in Florida. Now let's
(26:20):
go back to LeVar Errington and TJ. Huschmann Zada.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Appreciate it, Nick, enjoy your day, sir. Yeah, let's talk
about this. So I mentioned Kendrick Perkins. He had some
interesting things to say about Lebron James as it applied
to Kyrie Irving. Don't take my word for it. Let's
listen to Helm himself.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Here we go again, Bro, he's lying his way into
somebody else moment, like, let somebody else like. This is
not about you. Your team is at home. This is
about the MAVs and the Celtics. But yet you so
man and disappointed that you're not Kyrie Irving running mate.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
No more?
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Here we go again, all right? I thought it was
an interesting SoundBite. It seems as though it's hard to
figure out who's pro Lebron and who is not a
fan of Lebron. At times. Sometimes you think one guy
is and maybe something else happens this, that and the other.
This is one of those latest moments where the media
(27:19):
seems to think that Lebron James is constantly trying to
garner attention, especially in the off season, in some way
somehow keep the attention on him. If it's not about
the possible hiring of Danny Hurley and how that could
play into the role of him staying in LA and
his son coming and being drafted or ending up with
(27:41):
the LA Lakers. Now it's him having Kyrie as still
as his running buddy, is his running mate, and hating
that he doesn't have that scenario anymore. I know you're
a big Lakers fan. I'm pretty certain you're a Lebron fan.
You're on the pro side of Lebron. What's your take
on like him being, you know, Kendrick taking aim on
(28:03):
him for basically having those comments about Kyrie Irving being,
you know, being as though he's not still playing and
Kyrie is in the finals.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Man Lebron only said was damn, I wish I was
still this teammates some of that nature.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Correct, Yes, he hated that they're not teammates because he was.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
It's still yeah, because it was a known thing that
last year Kyrie wanted to play for the Lakers, and
obviously they didn't think the contract that he wanted he
was worth that. So basically how I took it was
it was letting the Lakers know y'all didn't won't even
(28:49):
look where he's at.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I wish it was a shot, So was a shot
at at the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
That's how I took it. I didn't take it everything
that Lebron says. It's like everybody over examines it and
maybe I.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Just take that take. But that's a good take.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
But Kyrie wanted to play with the Lakers last year.
Yes he did, and they didn't want to give him
the contract he wanted. And so that was his way
of saying, like, man, we should basically he should be
he should be on our team.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And so okay, but but let's be clear here though,
to Kendrick Perkins's point, is that even relevant right now?
Like cat, you just wish that man in good luck
and have a great series and hope something good happens
for you. Like what are you making about the the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Ain't playing, because it's it's every time, Oh, Lebron wanted
this guy on the team, it don't work. They talk
about that to the end of name. Oh Lebron wanted
this guy, it didn't work. Oh Lebron wanted to do
this trade, it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Well, Lebron wanted wanted this coach, it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Lebron wanted Kyrie on the team, and y'all didn't want
to do that. So now look at it now, and
so I mean, but again, when you Lebron James, anything
you say, somebody can always pick it apart and will
and they yeah, and they will listening. Like I'm a
(30:16):
fan of sports, I'm a fan of basketball, I'm a
Laker fan. Forced the Farmers. I've always liked Lebron, but
if he wasn't on the Lakers, I mean it'd be whatever.
I'm a Laker fan, so it's about this is bigger.
This thing is bigger than Lebron James. But yeah, like
I'm a Laker fan, I'm just a fan of sportsman.
I don't know why I'm like this. I mean, it
could be because I didn't play a ton of sports
(30:37):
growing up that I love him so much. Now, I
wasn't forced to go train and forced to do this
and forced to do that once I started playing at
such a late age. It just you know, I've always
loved it. But yeah, man, I just look at when
you're Lebron James and he knows this. Everything you say
is gonna be a randomlyzed man everything.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Okay, So before we go to break, because we are
up against the break, what's your take on the Danny
Hurley situation because we did not get to it. That
was the one story. It was the one story I
wanted us to get to at the end of the
last hour.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
That's interesting, LeVar, because I know Lebron has made comments
about Danny Hurley like certain offensive sets they were doing
a you kind of like, man, that's a great set,
that's a great play. But if where is it coming
(31:30):
from so late in the process?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Like why are we just late in the process?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But who who put this out there? Did who put
this out there to put pressure on one or one another?
The Lakers or Hurley? Somebody put this out.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
There because it looked like it was going to be
JJ ready, right, JJ Reddy does the show with Lebron.
Everybody knows there's a connection there. And then all of
a sudden, pow, breaking news, Danny Hurley hit. Somebody was
behind the scenes negotiating, somebody was was having conversations about
this to get this to where it got to where
(32:04):
he came in, flew in because it was the next day.
He flew in the next day to meet with the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Now you know you said it earlier, you know the Lakers. Impossibly,
Bronnie Curly his showed himself to be a great developer
of young talent. Could that be one of the reasons
why y'all say Lebron is running the show Lebron may't
want him? Is because he's developed some lottery picks down
(32:35):
in Yukon and Lebron can see him working with Bronni
and making his son a better player. That could be
the case.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Also Lebron his I think that's one the case.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
And I think he ever basketball is set, man.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
You know, he can opt out. You know he can
opt out.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah. When I say his place in basketball, I'm talking
his story now.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
No, Yeah, I know what you said.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, he wants his son, he wants his son to succeeds. Correct,
And we all, we all do like, oh, he's doing
this for your son, wouldn't you?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah? Absolutely, of course we all would if I.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Could Nepotism at his finest. And I don't blame them.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Yeah, I mean there's guys running teams in the NFL,
in the leagues that that are you know, their their
legacy guys. Hey. But but here's here's my last point
to that. And I'm curious, do you think when I
said opt out, the idea that Lebron James could opt
out and become a free agent and test the market
(33:31):
if I if I understand it correctly, do you feel
as though what you just said may play it a
major part and him saying, look, y'all want me to
come back, sell these tickets, keep keep the Lakers a
hot ticket for another season. Y'all bring my son in here,
and y'all bring in Danny Hurley because Danny h'm.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
They're going to try to do everything that Lebron wants.
You only can do so much. Now, do you want
Hurley or you want JJ Reddick? Which one is it?
You know? Because like this Hurley thing, it caught me
by surprise because it was it's so late in the process.
The Final Four was over months ago. The Lakers season
was over months ago, right, well, it seems like months ago.
(34:12):
It's like, where is this coming from? Or has it been,
like I said, in the process, and they've just been
kind of negotiating, you know, behind closed doors so to speak.
It's a I'm interested to see because I just assume, yeah,
it's gonna be jj Reddick. It's for sure gonna be
jj Reddick. But what Herly did in Yukon is remarkable.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Man.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
He turned that program around there really really good, and
they kind of fell off and like back to back
we went't in college basketball. You don't see this.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
And like.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
It will be like they eight years, one hundred million.
The Lakers are really gonna pay that because you know
when you when you think of the Lakers, it's like
you were giving you an opportunity to for us, but
we were putting you on the map when you coach
our team type of thing. That's that kind of seems
like that's the Lakers' mentality outside of Phil Jackson. And
(35:10):
so these next what would you say, seventy two hours,
we're gonna gonna be very interesting to see how see
what happens. I'm sure JJ Reddick thought the gig was
his and this comes out, it's probably like, oh, hold up,
not so fast. But Lebron is who he is, and
(35:30):
once again he's earned it. And so when you had
a type of equity that he has, it's unlimited.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Well there you go. That's t J. Huschman Zada. I
am LeVar Arrington as well. And this is up on Game.
On the other side of the break, we're gonna talk
up on game down on game. We are live from
tyrack dot com studios. This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
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Speaker 4 (36:03):
All right, welcome back in. This is up on game
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(36:24):
up immediately following ours as well, so you'll want to
stay tuned in to listen to what he has to say.
Uh and give him a ju Jonas, you know what
I mean if you're checking him out. All right, it's
time of the game or time of the show we
talk about. Well, let's get up on game. Let's get
down on game.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
None for some picks. Are you up on game?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Let's break this up.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Let's break it up, down on game, get down?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
All right, lead the lab. What we got going into
this game with the finals of the Mavericks and this
he will take He's taking place well, fellas.
Speaker 9 (36:58):
Obviously Kyrie Irving struggled in game one and many are
high on him rebounding so to speak, in game two.
His point total for game two is over under said
at twenty two and a half. What are you guys
thinking Ooh, that's.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
A good one.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Oh, he'll go over that easy.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
He'll go over it easy.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah, Yeah, he'll get about twenty eight twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah, I'm gonna take the over on that too. It
might be it might be nearly, it might be a barely,
but I'm gonna take the over as well.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
Guys, very low assists for the uh for the Mavericks
in game one. In fact, Luca only had one assist.
They've set it up pretty high in game two. It's
at eight and a half. Eight and a half assists
for Luka Doncic in game two.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I think the Celtics are they want to make a
point emphasis Luca's gonna beat us, beat us if he does.
We don't want to let a lot of guys get
involved off of Luca passing the bar. I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Under ooh, I just think that this has to be
the stand. They got to show that they can get
it done in this game. Part of that is Luca's
ability to draw the defenders to him and create those
easy buckets for his teammates. I'm taking the over all, right, guys.
Speaker 9 (38:13):
Chris Stops was a big storyline coming back from his injury.
Stringed Calf, big game for him in Game one, some
highlight blocks right now, he's over under on blocks in
game two.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Is at one and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
One and a half. Yeah, I say over. I think
you'll get two blocks. You should be able to get. Yeah,
that's tough because they Yeah, I'm gonna just say I'll
go over. I'm not too sure that one though, and.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
I'm gonna take the over on it. I think he
gets at least two.
Speaker 9 (38:49):
How about three pointers Derek White? He's kind of been
hitting it. I mean, obviously the whole team was hitting
it from deep. How about three pointers for Derek White
in Game two?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Two and a half.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
The Celtics are a big three point shooting team. Derek White.
He gonna you know, he's gonna fire up about seven
or eight. So I'm i'm gonna say over, I'll go
over that. I can see Derek White knocking down three threes.
I can see that.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
I can see it.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
But I'm gonna take the under. How about let's go
Jason Tatum. Tatum rebounds for Game twos at nine and
a half.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You know, Jason Tatum is the leading rebounder for the
Boston Celtics, so I'll say.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Over nine and a half, nine and a half. He
was money in the first game. I think he did
lead the team and rebounds in for in Game one.
I O, I'm gonna say nine and a half. I'm
gonna take the under. I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 9 (39:48):
Guys, be we talked about this on on our two
Pros and a Cup of Joe. Number of buzzer beaters.
Game winning buzzer beaters are just getting into overtime buzzer
beaters for the remainder of the series at a house.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Oh, I'm gonna say under. I don't see none of
the buzzer that's rare. I'ld say I'm going under on that.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I'mua stay real with that too. I'm gonna I'm gonna
go with the under on that one as well. I
don't I don't see it being a buzzer beater game.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Point total for Game two is at two fourteen.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
And a half. Oh, shoot fourteen.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, I might have to follow that train on that one,
follow that cab beat beat under.
Speaker 9 (40:32):
All right, guys, what else we got technicals? Technicals in
Game two? Any technicals had a half? Will there be
any technicals. Is there is there a number set at
a half a half?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I'm gonna say that's gonna go under. Somebody gonna be
Somebody from the Mavericks is gonna be mad that they
gonna get cooked again. So yeah, they gonna they gonna
make a fuss about it. Yeah, I'll go I'll go over.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I'm gonna take an over on that. And I don't
know why, but I'm gonna take the over on it.
TJ enjoy your day. You guys out there, listen to
our show. We appreciate you. Enjoy your day. Jonas Notch
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