Arnie Spanier & Jason Martin Discuss Team USA’s Decision on Caitlin Clark, NBA Finals, Lakers Head Coaching Rumors & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good Saturday evening to you, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome in.
It is Fox Sports Saturday. He is Arnie Spaniard. I'm
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How are you? My friend?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Did you know that Sergejo Bobovsky looks just like Keanu Reeves.
I don't know if you know that, so I they
could be twins missing him.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Did you just see the the interview? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I saw the I'm like, man, that guy looks like
res Man? How about that? But I'm good. Just got
back from a little mini vacation out in Martha's Vineyard.
You could, you can just smell the richness out there.
I just speaking to a guy who was wearing his
blazer with like the gold emblem on it, and he
just smelled the rich You know, people smell smells like

(01:18):
that new car smell.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
But so you smelled wide receivers in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Just yeah, no, that's nothing. That's peanuts compared to these people. Man.
I'm and I did something stupid too. Like one guy,
I saw him come out of his house. I'm like, oh,
beautiful house. And we're talking, and because you live around here,
I'm like, yeah, you know, not too far from here,

(01:44):
you know, kind of around the corner and things like
oh yeah, where And I'm like, yeah, you know, yeah right,
you know, you know, not too far. And all you
see is like twenty and twenty five million dollar homes
going down to think and he keeps pushing me, but
which is your home. I'm like, make a right, go
up four and a half hours to Vermont. That's my home, buddy.

(02:06):
All right, there you go. You got it out of me.
I'm not and I'm not rich. You could tell you
I didn't smell like that new car smell. He's walking
around with a blazer with a gold neb one. I
have a University of Arizona t shirt and Hawaiian straw
had I'm taking up looking good. So, yeah, that was
my first time out there.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
You live close, you know, if you're in comparison to
say Greenland.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Or yeah, or the guys out in that lay or something.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Like Burkina fosso you're closer.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Oh jeez, I'm telling you, man. You look at these
homes and the people on their yachts and their boats,
and it's just, oh man, I'm just like, why why
didn't I hit the jackpot like this? Why why didn't
I go ahead and hit the financial you know, billions
like these guys. But uh, we could do. Life goes on.
We got a lot to get to. They though it's happening.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
So stuff is happening, that's exactly right, and trying to
figure out where to go to start. It's actually kind
of more than we thought. And so we are going
to talk about the NBA Finals. We know that's a
big deal, and we're just spending a lot of time
breaking it down. We aren't going to lead with it, however,
because other things are going on. I guess the story

(03:19):
of the day, I guess we have to do this.
We have more time.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You You're like, it's like dragging the you know, teeth
from you got from you. You're You're just burnt down
on the whole Caitlin Clark thing.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I just I want to be I want to give
them what they want. I want to give them exactly
what they want and what they clearly are showing that
they want. Just to move on, like you can, you
guys can go back to being irrelevant. But for about
half a percent of the American population, Like that's fine.

(03:53):
Like every story that comes out, everything that gets said,
all of the think pieces, all of the stuff. You're
just asking me to go back to what I've always done,
which is not caring about it, like not caring about
the league at all. It's like, all right, that's fine.
If you would rather fail then do the smart thing,

(04:15):
then that's fine, then I will. I've got plenty of
other things to occupy my time. It's not like it's
a league that I want to sit down and watch
particularly strongly. Anyway. I know some people aren't going to
appreciate me saying that, but I'm behind a microphone. I'm
gonna be honest with you. It's still not a good product.
And you have you have a unicorn right now, you
have something a little bit different that's created a little

(04:36):
bit of interest and you just can't stand it, can you.
So the story of the day, which has, you know,
birth a thousand articles to defend it in every way,
is the Caitlin Clark's not going to be on the
Olympic team, right, fine, whatever, Like, Okay, from a basketball standpoint,
I can see it. But it's like, well, they're going
for the gold medal, right, Well they don't.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Lose, right right, it could be a who cares three? Yeah,
they don't lose it all.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
You're right, that's the biggest part. Like, so you put
her on at twelve, Okay, she's not one of the
twelve best players, as your argument, Yes, but Britney Griner
is who played exactly one game because she's coming back
from injury and everything else that happened. What happened to her,
it was terrible in a lot of ways. It was
a it was a dumb tax that was paid and
then it went way too far. But it's a country

(05:25):
that goes way too far. I don't I'm not gonna
argue she's one of the twelve best women's basketball players.
I'm gonna argue that she's the only one that would
have gotten anybody in this country to care.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
No, you're right, Yeah, you're hunting, that's right. I mean,
first of all, this is so wrong in so many
different ways. It's more than just her not being on
the team. It's all the people that are negative against
her or don't want her to succeed, or that happy
that she's not on They're strictly haters for whatever reason.
And they feel like there's a lot of reasons. First,

(06:00):
just strictly, is she one of the top twelve. I
didn't compare statistics or anything like that, but I did
see this on Twitter when they compared her stats to
Deanuta Tarasi points per game, Caitlin Clark thirteen, Tarassi fifteen,
assist Clark fourth, Tarasi seventy ninth, rebounds Kark twenty seventh,

(06:21):
Tarasi thirty five, blocks, Clark eighteenth, Tarase ninety steals Clark seventeen,
Tarasi sixty five. Based on statistics alone, then she deserves
it over Tarasi. That's the first thing too. You mentioned injury.
Chelsea Gray hasn't played all year. You would think that

(06:41):
I have alternatives, you know, alternates just in case that
some of these girls can't make it because of injury
or something happens between now and the Olympics. I've not
heard that be announced. I think it's supposed to be
announced Tuesday. That's when the list was supposed to be
announced on Tuesday, But somehow it got leaked out there.
And to say that we don't want to put her
on for one of the reasons that her fans might

(07:02):
be upset because of the limited playing time she should get.
That's beside the point. Why would you even make that,
Why is that even coming into your mind? Why you're
gonna keep somebody off the team. There's no reason, zero
reason you wouldn't want Caitlin Clark on the eyeballs that

(07:23):
it brings to America, to women's sports, to the WNBA,
to everything, and you're just kicking it to the curb.
I've never seen more of a of a strategy of
somebody just shooting themselves in the foot, yes and walking away.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
No, I told you I was on vacation. I got
back from dinner. I put on the TV. My wife
is slipping through. She goes, oh, look there's the there's
the fever Gabe. Oh with Kaitlyn Clark. She clicks it.
We put it on. Think you think I would have
done that last year, two years ago, ten years ago. No,
it's rediculous that we are made to feel bad because

(08:04):
we want to go ahead and now, well I have
somebody that we could root for, which is going to
help the WNBA. And by the way, the w NBA
fans are men. That's who supported the WNBA, not women.
Men went to the games all this time, and of
course subsidized by the NBA. I understand that, but it

(08:26):
was men going to the games, not women. And the
fact that you see somebody like Ryan Clark is Ryan Clark,
do like get that right where his article says, maybe men,
you should take a step back. If you haven't been
following the WNBA for and this is your first go around,
take a step back. What the hell does this even
have to do with the WNBA?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Really, that whole thing's weird. Like I'm torn only because
you know, I've talked to Ryan Clark many times through
the years, I've interviewed him a lot, and I'm a
big fan of his work, especially when he's speaking about
the NFL. I just thought, this is a horrible take
by him. And you know, I've had bad takes, and
I'm sure if he had ever heard them, he would
find many to disagree with with me. This is a

(09:07):
bad take. It was just wrong, like the idea of well,
if you haven't covered it, then you shouldn't talk about
it at all. You should lean on a name like
eighteen ESPN Personalities. And what that told me was he's
been at ESPN Bubble too long, right, because he sees
it and he's hearing them tell him what he doesn't know,
and so he thinks that he needs to come out
and tell everybody else don't comment on this. Listen to

(09:29):
Rebecca Lobo and listen to Monica McNutt, and listen to
all these people. Nothing against them, But my argument isn't
about you know, this quality or that quality or this
statistic or I'm not trying to break down the women's game.
I'm trying to show you from an entertainment perspective that
what's happening with Caitlin Clark right now is one of

(09:50):
the dumbest things I've ever seen, because everybody in the
league seems like they would just rather the thing crater
than six seed on her back or with her help.
And she's done nothing like she hasn't come out and
said the wrong stuff. No, she hasn't behaved the wrong
way in public. She's a tough minded player on the floor,

(10:12):
which a lot of those women are, so I don't
know that that's really stepping out. She has three technical fouls.
She talks a lot of trash. She talked a lot
of trash at Iowa. You know, I'm sure that that
will ruffle some feathers. But really, like that became the
things like, well, Joe, she was part to blame for
the foul. Really, we're gonna go here, you have one
player that matters. And then I've got Angel Reese lecturing

(10:32):
me a couple days later about how it's not just
about one player. People come to see me play too.
No way, like people in terms of the way that
you are describing it. Do not people as implural, yes,
but people as in a large swath of people are

(10:54):
super excited to see what I'm gonna do in WNBA
with all do deference here. I wouldn't know who Angel
Reese was had it not been for the Caitlin Clark
back and forth last year. And by the way, to
Angel's credit, I'm not sure I would know who Caitlyn
Clark was had it not been for what happened with
Angel Reese at that point in time. Also, but don't

(11:17):
act like you're some kind of superstar as opposed to
her and saying that this league is not just it's
not just her, it's all these rookies and it's me
and ESPN's were, you know, putting her way down on
lists of rookies in their stats. And again, I think
a lot of that. If you want to go conspiracy
theory route, you can say, you know, there's there's a

(11:37):
lot of things happening, and there's a lot of women
that work at ESPN, and some of them, we know
for a fact, aren't the biggest fans of Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
No, is it because one of them, or is it
because she's strayed, or is it because she is getting
all the attention and they're jealous? This is offensive. It's
not just it's offensive. Way we're meant to feel like
we're some second class citizen because we want to root

(12:06):
for somebody like Caitlin Clark. We're made the feel like
we're no nothing about sports because we haven't followed it.
And by the way, I've done, you know, promotions with
the WNBA back at another place, another radio station. But
that's beside the point. But we're made the feel like
we don't know what we're talking about. You know, I've
been a Knicks fan for sixty years, so monicaut should

(12:29):
be fired and take my lead and let me tell
her about the Knicks, right? Is that the way it's
going to play out? Like in Ryan Clark's article, I
just find the whole thing so offensive on what's going
on with her. I hope she's listed as an alternate.
I was looking at the selection committee and I'm like,
I can't believe they would come up with this solution.

(12:52):
I would love to hear how they voted, or do
they just all get together and agree on it, or
whether individual votes and said did somebody have the guts
to say no, no, I think she needs to be
on the tee. Are they all in cohoots together to
keep her off the team. I would love to know
how that works out. You know I would. Somebody can
tell me.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
See, I don't know. But if you want to argue
to me, if you want to make the argument that
there are players that are on that team that would
side by Caitlin Clark, I'm gonna listen to it and
probably agree with it.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Like it.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
There's no way based on everything that's happened. I don't
care about the Oh, well, they're not out for out
against her, and yes they are, Yes they are. We
have eyes, we can see this. There are women who
don't probably want to play with her at all. And
I've even seen that. Well, you know how it went

(13:51):
with Christian Laightner. This is completely different than that. Like,
Christian Laytner was a name, but he was already somebody
that was pretty hated when he was at Dupe. Right,
I was a rookie with a Michael Jordan led NBA
dream team. That's a little bit different than whoever they're
running out.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well, they had to.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Take a college kid, they had to take somebody from
college or was either going to be him or what
Jack and you had.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
An easy out here. All you had to do is say, hey, look,
because of her postseason run in the NCAA, tournament. She
wasn't part of the qualifying and all this kind of stuff,
so she's actually not eligible. Like you could have figured
a way out of this where even if people would
have been mad, they would say, Okay, well, I mean
that's not how I would have done it. But the
whole thing about our fans and the playing time and

(14:37):
all of these other things, like just stop making excuses.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
So we're to blame then, you and I because we're
fans of Caitlin Clark, We're to blame for her for
her not making the team because we would be upset
at our playing time. Correct.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean it seems like, yeah, it's not us
that's to blame, it's it's the league players that seem
to have some kind of animus towards her no matter
what she does, because she's actually getting covered. They and again,
this is what you're going to get because and this
is I think this is about the most truth that

(15:11):
you can say about everything's happening with Kaitlin Clark. We
led this show off talking about Caitlin Clark and the
WNBA and the Olympic decision, and there are a lot
of people listening like, oh, please, can we get to sports.
Can we get to the NBA Finals? Can we get
to all these other things? We get to Dan Hurley
and the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Can more people care about Kaitlyn Clark than in the
NBA Finals?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, my point being that's the only story that would
get you in this spot at any point. And so
what those people are suggesting, they're all getting I feel
like we're all growing tired of this quickly, and all
of this just stuff that's happening here, even that like

(15:54):
weird fight with McNutt and Steven a earlier this week,
all the stuff that was happening. Yeah, it doesn't matter,
but we can just move on, Like again, I'll go
back to watching everything else that I watch and not
caring about the WNBA, Like I don't really even like whatever. Okay,
I'll let Caitlin Clark go to I'll just let it go.
Like if that's what you want, then you can go

(16:15):
back to no one talking and or writing and or
caring about anything that you do. If I want to
watch women's sports, I'll watch women's softball.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know what I want? I want an explanation, and
I know they're not going to come on the weekends.
Nothing against the weekends. We work weekends. I want Colin
to have somebody on from the selection committee, like Don
Staley or the Atlanta Dream general manager or I think
it was the head of the WNBA. There's some retired
WNBA that played in the Olympics. I want Colin to

(16:46):
just have one of them on, preferably Don Staley. And
it needs to be discussed. We need to know did
they all agree on this? Was there a vote? Was
a unanimous They all have the same thinking on this?
I needed explanation. Are we not own one right? We
don't care? Well, everything's got to be a secret. Now
you you can't fess up you made a sports decision,

(17:10):
shouldn't you? Just if I gave you a vote in
the top twenty five and you put it out that
I had John and said, Jason, why did you vote
alabauta number one year? Said no comment, I'm not going
to discuss my voting. Well, what the hell? What's going
on here? I want one of them to explain, explain
it to me why you did this? Other than the fans.

(17:31):
I need an explanation.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'll tell you what. I'll give you. This scenario. If
you just asked me to try and tell you what
I think may have happened. I'll do that after the break.
I'll tell you exactly why I think she's not on
the team. That's next. He's already span here. I'm Jason Martin.
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Sports Radio. Glad to be with you this evening, all right, Arnie.
Before the break, I said I would throw out a
theory for you. Yeah, if you just said, what do
you think may have happened in that room when you're

(18:59):
deciding who's gonna be on the Olympic team and Caitlyn
Clerk's not picked, which became kind of the story of
the day, I would say what happened was, Man, we
can't do it. They're gonna hate it, like it's gonna
wreck the chemistry because they don't they don't like her
like we we don't. We can't do this. I think

(19:20):
that's what it was. I don't think it's a fans.
I think it's the players, and I think it's the
decision makers that are basically saying, yeah, there's a lot
of people that are gonna be real sour or if
we make this decision, and by that meaning other players
in the league. Diana Taarossi's those kind of folks.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, wrong, thinking on that, that's awful. I'll give
you a conspiracy theory. How about this. The list wasn't
supposed to be released until Tuesday, Okay, that that's a fact.
I think they purposely released it to see what the
backlash would be and if it was such a bad
backlash when the list comes out officially on Tuesday, official officially,

(19:59):
even though they kind of official, let's say the alternates,
and I'll have Kaitlin kark On that you watch and
see if she's not gonna be somehow listed as an
alternate by Monday or Tuesday or whenever they have to
get like official official. But I think they leaked it
out so they can hear the backlash, and they're probably
not liking what they're hearing, to be honest with you,
you know, well, I.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Mean that's interesting. I don't know that I would agree
with that, but we'll find out. I mean, that's something
that we will be able to actually measure, and if
you turn out to be right, then no stra damus,
no stra arnius.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, I just want to go ahead and know what happened.
What they said. We'll never find out the truth. I
can't believe that. I think there was like six or
seven people in the room. I can't believe they all
have the same thinking that there's not one person that said, hey,
you know what, maybe he's not a good idea, you know,
I'm gonna vote the other way. So if we lose

(20:51):
six to one, then so be it. I if there
is even a vote, I don't know. There's got to
be like a jury where it's gotta be twelve nothing.
I don't know how this works, to be honest with it,
nobody's gonna explain it to us. Nobody's gonna ahead and
give us the reason. Nobody's gonna go ahead and speak
out to the media, even though that's making a decision
on who's gonna be on the Olympic team. We have

(21:12):
the right to know it's the USA Olympic team, the
women's team. As Americans, we have the right to know
how you selected the team, right. That's the American way,
is it not? It's the media for crying out loud.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well, geez, they'll get a pass, I would imagine, can't.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
They shouldn't. Somebody should have liked I hope Colin gets
one of the mom to be. I'm really serious about that.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean, one thing Colin has said in the past,
I think it's been in the past week that I
couldn't agree more with is the whole critique. And it
goes similarly back to what Ryan Clark said, and what
some of the other people have said where there's just like, man,
you had plenty of time you could have covered this
league and all this. It's not my responsibility to make
you popular. That's what Colin said. It's like you weren't popular,

(22:00):
not talk about you, and that's the truth. Like, hey man,
the Stanley Cup is the biggest sporting event to happen today. Uh,
we really talked about that. We talked about some dude
looking like Keanu Reeves. That's it. I could have said
three O panthers that was the final score tonight. But
we know something here and this. You know some people

(22:21):
that are hockey fans out there, and you know, I
even had it planned to talk about the end of
the first hour about man, Hockey's just non existent and
it's sad and I don't like it because I used
to love hockey and I don't know exactly what changed
and what happened. But the reason you don't hear hockey
across fox Portradio all week long is because we're actually

(22:42):
paid to understand what people want to hear. And so
when your league is not popular, we're not going to
talk about you. It doesn't even mean some folks aren't fans,
because maybe some are, but they're still not going to
spend much of their time talking about it because they
still want to be employed next.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Week, exactly. You know, you're one hundred percent right. Hey
what I was filling it in Toronto for a while there.
My goodness, man, you want to talk about hockey. Oh my,
it was talked about in the summertime. But we're not
Toronto or Fox Sports Radio. We're national, so we talk
ab we play the hits and people want to talk

(23:20):
about the NFL and when we play the hits. Well,
I'm not kidding around when I say more people are
upset about the Caitlin Clark situation than what happened in
Game one of the NBA Finals, especially considering that the
NBA we've had what one or two? We had two
games in two weeks now, I mean, all the momentum
has been sucked out of the room. It's dragged everybody down.

(23:41):
So you better believe it's not even on the front
page anymore.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah. Well, I mean, this this was a story and
it's you know, it's tabloid fodder, it's anything else. I
was also thinking about this. It's like if you're salty.
Let's say you're a player in the WNBA, and yeah,
you are one of the ones. I know they're not
all like this, but you're one of the ones that
might be a little to you at Kaitlyn Clark don't like
the coverage, all that kind of stuff. If it's me

(24:05):
and I'm one of those women, I would want her
on the team just because it's gonna make her look
bad that she only gets five minutes a game or
something like that. Like if you put her there and
she's not getting timed, then it exposes that she's not
up to snuff compared to you or compared to all
the other players that are there. I think that leaving
her off like this, Like I guess some could laugh

(24:28):
and think this is sort of an embarrassment in all this,
I don't think so. I think it just shows that
you are indeed a one person league because this person
that apparently is not good enough to be on your team,
your Olympic team, for whatever the reasoning is, whether we
learn about it or not, that story made news because

(24:48):
of the individual involved, not because of your league, not
because the quality of the players that are above her,
but about her.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
See who's trending more, Caitlyn Clark or Jalen Brown. Caitlyn
Clark or Jason Table.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, Jaylen Brown's doing a little bit more now because of.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Jason Well, and also you're right about that. And also
beause he said he you know, he's single and he
just watches TV and sits at home all day. I'm
telling you, it's a big thing that everybody's talking about,
and I need some explanations when the day is done,
that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, I don't know that we're gonna get it. But again,
the biggest loser here is NBC because that would have
been a ratings blast. It would have been well, they
have a good radio international competition. Well, yes, but people
aren't gonna watch women's basketball. Now what's going to watch? Well,
like more people, it'll be what it was going to

(25:45):
be before. Kaitlyn Clark. Yes, absolutely, yes, right, all right,
so let's get to the saga and then we can
actually shift gears to uh stuff people on.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I thought I gave the saga the night off. Look
at that, I guess I did. I wasn't going this.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
It's going well, Unfortunately, you're back here for another Saturday night.
Have you kidnapped Torres. He is not on his own
show again.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
What's going on? Week's off a vacation.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
What is up with that? That's all you guys. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I send him a message, getting nothing back.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
He's in Fiji or something. We're never gonna see him.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Well, yeah, it is odd that the Yukon story comes up,
by the way, in Torre's honor. Yukon baseball was in
those super regionals yesterday they lost. They got yes, twenty
four to four.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Good.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
I was rooting against them just so he would suffer.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
At the Florida State Seminoles eliminated Yukon in twelve innings today,
ten to eight. Stanley Cup Final Game one was it
Florida tonight three nothing Panthers over Edmonton. The final Game
two is Monday at Florida. Florida had won the Eastern
Conference last Saturday, taking game six against the top seeded
New York Rangers. Edmonton took the West Final last Sunday,

(26:56):
winning game six against top seeded Dallas despite being out
shut thirty five to ten in that game. You mentioned
WNBA Connecticut's going to be hosting Indiana on Monday. Connecticut
was nine and zero, but lost at home today to
New York eighty two seventy five Olympian Sabrina Yenescu with
twenty four points. New York is ten and two and
Atlanta won the other game at Chicago eighty nine to

(27:18):
eighty rookie Angel Reese in the loss thirteen points, thirteen rebounds,
five steals. NBA Finals Game two is Sunday night at Boston.
Dallas will be hosting games three and four on Wednesday
and Friday nights next week. Boston and the regular season
at home went thirty seven and four and won game
one of these finals at home by eighteen points, led
by twenty nine in the first half. In that opener,

(27:40):
Boston had nine block shots. Dallas had only nine assists
in the game as a team, and so his AP
points out. In the past three seasons, Kyrie irving playoffs
included is now zero to eleven against the Boston Celtics.
Number one AGAs Fiontek won the French Open, her fourth
in five years at college baseball, soit regional. Not only

(28:01):
is Yukon out, but Virginia eliminated Kansas State, North Carolina
has eliminated West Virginia as well. NC State won its
opening of the best of three eighteen to one at
Georgia today, and Evansville won at Number one Tennessee ten
to eight, force a game three tomorrow. Wins for Kentucky
for A and m and Florida one at Clemson ten

(28:21):
to seven at College Station, Texas Soccer tonight attendance eighty
five thousand. Brazil. God that is correct. Brazil with a
late goal to beat Mexico three to two. Meanwhile, US
men's soccer is an embarrassment. They lose five to one
to a good Columbia team at at exhibition in Maryland,
giving up three goals in the last fifteen minutes. And

(28:42):
Wednesday it's US against Brazil in Orlando, a tune up
for the upcoming Copa America games. In Major League Baseball
in London. Today Philadelphia one again beating the Mets seven
to two at Yankee Stadium. Tonight, Dodgers eleven to three
over the Yanks. Teoscar Hernandez with two home runs, including
a grand slam. San Diego has beaten Arizona thirteen to one,

(29:03):
Cleveland and Colorado with victories. Baltimore won again Cincinnati with
its seventh straight win Toronto and Pittsburgh. With victories today
and last night, the White Sox ended a fourteen game
losing streak beating Boston. They beat Boston again today six
to one. Until this two game winning streak, the White
Sox record was fifteen and forty eight.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
This she back to you, by the way, the Sega,
it was sold out at Fenway Park today? Did you
know that? Four the Savannah Bananas sold I'm not getting
around sold out. I mean there was standing group only
the Red Sox don't even get that. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
I have seen some of their tickets online. Not you,
oh not. You fitted a very popular team.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I hear what the owners a little upset about that.
It wasn't meant to be like that, But yeah, it's
a It was a big ticket in town. They're only
at Fenway one day and they sold out.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
For those who are wentware. It's kind of like on
the road to being a Globe Protter's basketball team. The
Savanna Bonana baseball team.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I do love it, just Sega. What are your thoughts
on the Clark deal?

Speaker 5 (30:08):
You mean his comments? No, the Kaitlyn Clark Not because
you know he made Ryan Clark made the comments about
when you keep recovering, you think about the Clark Time
women's basketball. Yeah, uh it once she wasn't able to
go to the US camp. There was a chance she
just wasn't going. And also she's unlike some others, She's
played like fifty games in a row, so there is that.

(30:31):
But also they have Kelsey Plumb on the team, and
they have Chelsea Gray, and they have Diana Tarassi and
they have Sabrina Genescu. These are all guards. So I
realized that somebody like Brittany Grinder just played her first
game in the league last night, she's not a guard.
So we're pretty good. We're pretty set at guard. I
would say, Yeah, I do think Arnie's right about being

(30:52):
named an alternate.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Though, you think you think they set this up so
that on Tuesday they can name her an alternate.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, because it's kind of like the men team because
Kawhi Leonard was listed as one of the twelve, right,
is there a guarantee he's playing for the US this summer.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
There's never a guarantee that exactly.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, okay, well look that was that was pretty well
thought out. I think that the first time. I have
a lot of guards and grinder not being a guard. Yeah,
that helps. I still think you put her, If you
put her in at twelve, I don't think that you're
not going to win the gold medal.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
If you are, you going to win the goal. You'll
win the goal. The five played on the team.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
They've won every goal since the ninety six Atlanta Olympics.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, yes, please please, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I don't I don't think that it's in doubt. All Right,
Well that's cool. Well we'll talk to Steve next hour,
and we'll talk to him a lot next hour as well.
Uh so the NBA Finals, we are going to talk
about plenty. As a matter of fact, we only have
a couple of minutes before we get to this break,
so we want to dive into like the deepest, darkest questions.
So let's just do this the halftime show. M It

(31:58):
is bad. It's been bad. I mean it's been bad
on the four letter for a while. And it's not
even a function. It's not really even a function of
the people on it, but the way it's structured, oh horrible.
The worst part is like it's this rapid fire deal
where it feels like hot Potato before we get to
the next break, like it comes back and it feels

(32:19):
like they might as well just leave the theme playing
underneath it, because it's ninety seconds now, Like every time
how many seconds he and T gets five or six minutes? Yeah,
and it still feels like they have time to actually
break down what we just saw, and ESPN is running
to the next break.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
They have segments that are like twenty to thirty seconds. Ridiculous.
It's not good television. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
You come in.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
I feel like if I don't toote in for the
whole twenty seconds, I come back, I'm catching like five
ten seconds and next thing you know, they're at another
commercial break. Look, I know you gotta pay the bills.
I understand, you gotta go to the commercials. You gotta
figure out a better way than this. If you want
to extend the halftime, then do that. I don't care.
You're paying a lot of rights. You want to get

(33:06):
as much money as you want. But having twenty and
thirty minute segments and the longest segment I think was
like two minutes long, that that's just not gonna cut it.
People are not gonna tune in, we're gonna just say, okay,
it's halftime. We're gonna go to their fridge, We'll go
to the bathroom, we're gonna do flip route on the TV.
We're gonna watch another game. We're gonna do whatever we
have to do because it's not worth watching it because

(33:27):
there's so many commercials.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, I just I don't get it because again, and
it's not like it just happens during the finals. This way,
it just seems like it's on it's on amphetamines every
single time. It's like, well, how does TNT make it
feel completely the opposite right where it still doesn't feel rushed, Like, yes,
clearly you don't have as much time, but even halftime

(33:49):
of the National Championship game, for instance, it doesn't feel rushed.
Like Kenny makes his point and Shack's able to you know,
rebut it perhaps or him and Charles can go back
and forth or something like that. There's like no time.
It's like here's Wobon, here's Bob Myers, here's Steven A. Smith.
As fast as you really possible, nobody can actually repeat
or go back to each other, or if they do,

(34:09):
they just go ha ha you right, and then to
break like, there's no I don't, it's why are when
I'm just trying to figure out, like what where does
the time go? And then it somehow re emerges somewhere else?
Do they just sell that many more ads? How old?
Do you can't stand it?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
You get twelve minutes to begin with, right, and then
they throw on another three minutes. So I think it's
like a fifteen or eighteen minute break if I'm correct.
At least I know it's at least fifteen or sixteen minutes.
So you're gonna tell me that sixteen minutes you got
to play thirteen minutes of commercials? You better you better
figure something else out. You better figure out how else

(34:47):
to do it, because I'm sure even the guys that
are doing the halftime show are frustrated at the lack
of exposure and words they get to say. You can't,
you can't do anything and that short of a time.
Can you imagine do it a radio show? You and
I come back?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
We do.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
We got twenty seconds. Hey, Jason watched the game, Okay,
let's go to a break on. That was great.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Now we have we haven't and now I have done
that in the past where I've blown through a break too, right,
which I'm not gonna do here. I'm about to go
a break, but and like you come back. It's like, well,
we screwed the pooch on the last one, so we'll
see up to the top of the hour. We gotta
get out. It's like Michael will tell you. He's like,
but I don't know what it is you have to do,
but cut the mid coach interview where you get nothing anyway.

(35:27):
Cut whatever it is. Cut like the extra twenty second
highlight at the end of the first half before you
go to that break. Do something to give you to
set up your people for any level of success whatsoever.
Because the micro machines John Mahida thing ain't working. It's
not I know there was a dated reference, but I
realize I'm forty six now, so I guess I can

(35:48):
get away with it. We'll come back. We're gonna keep
talking finals. We're gonna take finals into this second hour,
and we're gonna upset Charles Barkley because we're gonna stop
talking about the finals and talk about Dan Hurley. All
that is still to come here. Fox Sports Saturday, Fox Radio.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
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Speaker 2 (36:13):
Live, not out of touch, not out of time, but
live from the tyreck dot com studios. Fox Sports Saturdays.
He's Arnie Spanier. I'm Jason Martin. You see what Jason
Kid talk the game? Really breakdown Game one? To open
the second hour of the program. We got Dan Hurley

(36:35):
and the Lakers and JJ Reddick and everything else coming
to Yeah, did you see Jason Kid in the media
availability Yes, May twice that Jalen Brown was the best Celtic.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Why why why do that? Why why go ahead and
say something like that?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Do you think there was strategy there?

Speaker 3 (36:52):
I don't know what that strategy would be other than
get Jason Tatum, Matt right, would you? Would you not?
And you don't want to get that guy?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Mad?

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Look, let's be honest. The best guy really on the
team is Tatum. But maybe it's fifty five to forty
five because I love Jalen Brown. I think he's a
great player. Also, I could see people maybe making the
case for him, but it really is Tatum. Maybe fifty
five or sixty forty, but Tatum is the leader on
the team. But it's a good one two punch or
one guy away from maybe you know, being more dominant.

(37:22):
They are right now, there's still three wins away from
a championship, so maybe don't even need that one guy.
We'll see what happens. But I don't know why you
would say that to try to get Tatum going.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
You know, yeah, we'll see. I guess maybe I'm too
naive because I mee, we was just kind of like, well,
first off, I don't know that he said anything wrong.
If it's one A and one B, who cares. Jalen
Brown was the better Celtic during the during the conference.
I think he's been better during this postseason. Okay, and
in Game one, he was better in the in the

(37:52):
in the actual game that was played, he was right right.
A lot of what Tatum did came in garbage time,
like its portzengis early and Jalen Brown and you know
everybody's sitting stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, but I don't think he's talking about He's not
talking about Game one. You know, he's not saying anything
like that. He's not talking overall though, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, but I mean as of late, it has looked
like Jaylen Brown is the one that you fear a
little bit more, even if Tatum has size and he's
a great player too. Like I I think that you
can you can make of this what you want, But
most of the response was just to look at him
trying to play head games. Maybe maybe then they're calling
it desperate. It would be desperate after game two, but

(38:32):
not after one game. Like I would say that he
knew what he was saying because he's been in the
league long enough to know how it works, right and
him being there and he's been there during smartphones and
social media and all those things, so he understands how
this is going to work and how it's going to
be perceived. And he said it, and he said it
multiple times at the same time, I don't really look

(38:54):
at it and say he was doing more than like
was trying to get under Jason Tatum's skin. Maybe, I
think I think the funnier argument about it is I
think you could argue that Jaylen Brown is better, but
it doesn't matter. I think that it's a good problem
to have if you're the Celtics, because it's like when
Tim Duncan came into the league, and it was him
and David Robinson. I don't care who was better one

(39:18):
night to the next, as long as one guy showed up.
And that's generally what you've got with the Celtics. The
Celtics have two dudes that if one of them shows up,
usually the supporting cast is gonna be there and they're
gonna win. Nine times out of ten they're gonna win.
So I don't think it's the It's like who's more valuable,
Tyreek Hill or Travis Kelsey, who cares? As long as
one of them catches one hundred and twenty yards and

(39:38):
two touchdowns, we're probably gonna win. The same thing with
Kyrie and Luca. Like on any given night, it can
be Kyrie, you can be Luca, or in Game one,
it can be neither of them. But generally speaking, as
long as one of your stars shows up, Lebron, Dwayne Wade,
Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, the list goes on and on.
There have been teams for forever that have multiple stars.

(40:02):
Sometimes it's not Yokic, Sometimes it was Murray during the
Nuggets championship run. Maybe it was one night Klay Thompson
had thirty five, and it wasn't necessarily the greatest night
for Steph Curry, Russell Westbrook exploded, and Kevin Durant maybe
took a back seat. It happens, But if you've got
two dudes that can get that job done, it still
puts you where you need to wait.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Why stop there? I mean, if you want to get
everybody crazy and play head games, should have said we
got to stop their best player. Who's playing the best
ball right now, that's porzingis.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, that'd be the easy way.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Why not just say that thing is amazing, That's what.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
That might be where we need to go to open up.
We're gonna open up hour two and we're gonna go
back to Game one, and we're gonna look ahead some
to Game two and just kind of evaluate where this
NBA Finals finds itself going into Game two. And then yes,
of course we're gonna talk about the Lakers and Dan Hurley,
which really upset Charles Barkley. We'll talk, we'll explain all
of that to you when we come back. Hour one

(40:56):
of the books, Hour two coming up with Arney Spaniel
or m Jason More coming up on Fox Sports Radio X.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
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Speaker 2 (41:17):
Our number two of the program, Welcome back in. He's
Arnie Spanier, I'm Jason Martin, Aaron Torres. One more week off.
He's taking two in a row. Charmed life. That one
lives vacationing at the beach. Even though he lives at
the beach.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
We talk, life is good for him, Life is good
for him.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
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Life's not bad for us either. Tyrack dot com. They're great,
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So I gotta tell you this. I went and watch
this during a break Already. I'm a big fan of

(41:57):
Drew Holliday, of his game, of his attitude, his story,
like just he seems to be. He seems to be
exactly what you want, right in every way. So he
did an interview I guess earlier today with with NBA
Radio right and he said yeah, Jason Kid's not lying.

(42:21):
Jaylen Brown is their best player.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Wow he played when he'll say that, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Well exactly, He's just he And he explained it. He said,
I mean you think about it, the way he scores,
the way the way he rebounds, assists, plays defense, he goes,
and I mean he was on Luca in game one,
like he just laid it out right there. He said,
Jay has been unbelievable. He didn't slight Tatum, but he said,
I don't think he's lying. I think that's not.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Even true against Luca. Luca was one for eight, had
no points and had two points no for four from
the three part range with Al Hartford was guarding him.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So I don't.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Look, I don't know why you would say that, especially
when you're a teammate. You don't answer questions like that.
You said, Hey, what differ does it make one A
one B. We're a team one through fifteen or whatever
that he one is, and don't we don't bother with
who's number one who's number two. We know at any time,
either one of those guys is gonna carry us to victory.
That's all we know, and that's all we care. That
we got three more wins. He answered something like that,

(43:17):
they think that's really that that's kind of a bad answer.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Is what he said. He says, quote, I don't think
he's lying. I think JB he's been aggressive in every
single way. He's been getting to the paint, getting the
free throw line, also making plays for other people. And
then he's guarding Luca. He's guarding their best player. I've
been on teams where, just any team where does your
best player have such a heavy load on the offense
and then just as equal a heavy load on the
defensive end. That's hard to do, especially against somebody like Luca.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Oh again, surprised, surprised at all. You know, if I'm Tatum,
I'm reading all this, and I mean, it's not going
to affect my play. I'm gonna come out, maybe be
a little bit more aggressive in game number two. Maybe
you're gonna wake a sleeping giant that like he's been
playing bad anyway this year or in the NBA playoffs.
Just to have the best first game out there. That's
that's the only problem. But it really doesn't make much
of a difference. It looks like they'll probably go on

(44:06):
to win this thing, and I don't know who knows
if it has some long term effect when it's all
said and done.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
You know, so you can you can bring something out
that will destroy chemistry. So we'll move on from that,
even though I think there's more meat on that bone.
And we get to the end of this series, and
if indeed the Celtics do win it, maybe we have
a debate we find out how this is actually gone.
But I said over the last few weeks, I was
totally wrong last season when I thought you should have
gotten rid of Jay when Brown, I think of the two,

(44:34):
he's the guy that I would want, not necessarily because
I think he is the better like talent, but there's
something about his competitive nature and the way he seems
to always be in the right place, and there's just
there's a fight in him that seems a little bit different,
and I like that. But if you go to Game one,
you know, you can look back at times where somebody's

(44:55):
come back from injury and the chemistry has been wrecked.
I always go to the same example or no magic.
When they faced the Lakers in the finals, they were
cooking with Raypah Austen just absolutely playing outstanding basketball, and
then Jamiir Nelson got healthy right before the NBA Finals
since stan Van Gundy decided to tinker with the lineup,
put Nelson in wreck the chemistry, and of course the

(45:18):
Lakers won the series. Maybe they would have anyway, but
this was a magic team that had eliminated Lebron en
route to get to the NBA Finals. And it was
Dwight Howard at his apex when everybody still thought that he,
you know, just wanted to have fun and you know,
all that kind of stuff, and he's putting on capes
and doing Superman dunks and all these other things coming
out of phone booths. But you can wreck chemistry. And

(45:42):
there was talk going into the NBA Finals where the
Celtics is going to do that if they brought in
Porzengis coming back off of missing all that time, how
rusty was he going to be? That first quarter performance
right from Porzengis is one of the most stunning things
I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
And then it's the layup to a little chippy didn't
he Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
But I mean he made everything else, yeah, everything, and
everybody came around. I mean that game was over. I
knew a quarter and a half in. Is that they're
probably at some point the MAVs will make a run. Yeah,
they got down game, they get fifteen, right exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I couldn't believe it. I'm like, okay, but they're probably
gonna put him in and see what they can get
out of him, you know, kind of like at a
Noobia on the Knicks who was hurt and they said
let's give him a couple of minutes. He couldn't play.
They took him out. So I'm saying, Okay, they're gonna
put in Porzingis. They'll let him run up and down
the court a couple of times. If he feels good,
they'll keep him in there. If he's effective, maybe grabbing
some rebounds, playing some defense, gets a bucket or two.

(46:44):
Give somebody a break like Al Horford on the defensive end,
they'll love that. I didn't expect what I saw with
twenty points and the way he dominated me a couple
of long shots too from around the foul line. That's
the best I've seen him play in a long time.
So that was surprise to me the hell. And I
saw that somebody plays the bet before the series on
Porzingis to win the MVP. He might be the MVP

(47:08):
favorite right now, if you were going to take a
vote on that, But there's still a long way to go.
And there he was like some serious odds. So he
was fantastic in that first game.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Well, I mean, what a boost to have him. And
then you've got Derek White making his shots. And Derek
White is the guy that when he makes the threes.
Him and Pritchard are those two guys, and when they
come in and they start making threes, it's just, oh,
it's not gonna be your night. Like who Richard was
horrible too, Yeah he would he did not have Bowser
hit a big three early in the game. But yeah,
Pritchard was not very good, but they didn't care, like

(47:39):
it didn't matter based on everything everybody else was doing.
But I was shocked, Like I was less surprised. I remember,
I told you that the layoff to me was going
to damage the MAVs more than the Celtics. Celtics were
more consistent throughout the season, whereas the MAVs felt like
they had just hit a completely different level over the
last month or so, especially you know, beating the thunder

(48:01):
and then the way that they just kind of dismantled
a red hot Timberwolves team. They were just I mean,
they were lightning and it just seemed like the storm ended.
And so we'll find out the Sunday night game. I mean,
everything is on that. I understand. It's still just home
court and all this right, that thing's too oh, it's
not going seven No.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
I kind of feel the same way also, even though
it's only gonna be two oh. And they say that
the series didn't starting soil you lose on your home court,
I don't know if that's gonna apply in this situation,
especially if Boston gets up to nothing.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I see.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I feel like they could steal a game in Dallas,
come back three to one and maybe put an end
to this thing.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
It.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
You know, it's embarrassing for Dallas to come out so flat.
You nailed that. I thought it was gonna be the
other way around, and maybe it was gonna help Dallas
with the rest. But they were down by seventeen at
the end of the first you kind of knew it
was over. The when they made that run the eight,
I think they called time out Boston and kind of,
you know, got back on track. They have taken a

(48:59):
bit that nixt bucket to make it down the six
things would have gotten real interesting. I would have loved
to see what happens. But give this something's credit. They
were able to get it right back up to fifteen sixteen.
Like you said, pull the way easy. Game one victory,
so I think they take Game two probably also well.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I mean, we'll certainly predict it at the end of
the show. They'd better not if you're a MAVs fan.
But I don't expect Dallas to be that bad in
game two. They can't afford a slow start in that building.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
And I don't expect Partzingas to get twenty points out.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
I don't know. I don't either, but I certainly didn't
expect him to get it in game one. That game
was so non compelling quickly that I was watching it
on my phone while playing with my daughter on our deck.
We were doing bubbles and she demanded the daddy do bubbles.
So well, I guess the game's gonna have to take

(49:52):
a back seat, but I'm gonna have on my phone.
It was more compelling to see whether or not she
was gonna succeed with the bubble wand than what was
happening in the basketball was.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
It because it was a blowout? Was it because there's
been only two games in two weeks and you've lost interest?
Was it because is it because that.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Watched two weeks in a row? Did did? Do you
feel like it came out flat? Do you just feel
like it didn't It didn't have the same the same off.
They took too much time.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Absolutely, one hundred. I could feel it as we talk
about it. I could feel when I was listening to
the network all day last couple of days, I could feel,
you know, even after the game was done that it
lost so much off and people are like, okay, blowout
game one, Celtics win. It didn't carry any momentum. I

(50:39):
feel like this, this is one of the finals has
the least talked about. I mean, I know it's only
one game in, but it's it's not there's not compelling
talk here. It was just one game in. They wanted
a blowout. Nothing crazy happened, and it's like the second
game in two weeks. So yeah, out of sight, out
of mind, And that's what the NBA did. They they
went out of sight, so everybody went to someplace else.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
I just saw what you sent me. We got to
do that. I'm actually went and like found the art.
I can't. I was so on the rundown that I
sent you right before we started the show. You're gonna
end the first hour talking about how hockey is dead, right,
and how I was saddened by that because I grew

(51:24):
up loving the NHL. I lived in Winston Salem. The
Winston sale Thunderbirds were a team, so there was a
rink so I was able to skate. I, you know,
wanted to play some hockey and I was into it.
I collected the pro set cards, upper deck cards, all
sorts of stuff. I was a huge Penguins fan, still am,
But like I, it's just not the same, and I

(51:44):
don't know exactly how it's happened and what's happened and
what's changed. I'm in a great NHL city in terms
of I mean when the president it's a big time
party here.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yes it is, Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
But I gotta say so. The Stanley Cup Finals start
tonight and it's three to zero, and you send me.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
This is LA, This is Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
ABC television affiliate in LA put up a graphic twenty
twenty four Stanley Cup Finals Game one tonight on ABC
out of three.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Nothing was the score? You said it was three oh three?
Nothing was the score? But yeah, go ahead, yes at
three to zero?

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Right, yeah, yeah, three nothing, yes yeah. Game one tonight
five pm dot at a series preview, all this kind
of stuff. They've got the logos on the screen. On
the left is the oilers, good job. On the right
is the Carolina Panthers logo. And here's why this is funny.

(52:40):
It's not that it's just a panther's logo that Look,
I can understand you're a news guy, not a sports guy.
You write with the graphic put up the Panthers, but
it's got Carolina Panthers written underneath it. Yes, it's not
just the panther, it's the font Carolina Panthers underneath. You

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got oilers on the left, Carolina Panthers on the right. Yeah,
something tells me that doesn't happen in the NFL with
the NBA. No, if like that, that's a story right
there of hockey being I'm surprised that you didn't even
you didn't even bother to notice Carolina in the name
when he was brought up instead of Florida.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I'm surprised they didn't put the Houston Oilers up there,
you know, instead of Edmonton. Yeah, No, that's embarrassing. Where
is the fact checker on something like that? Where how
does that go through the you know, the teleprompter it's
inserted right or whatever they use nowadays. You're reading the
script before him. Doesn't anybody picked up on that? Does

(53:44):
anybody say?

Speaker 5 (53:44):
Way?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
You know?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Just sun't seem right. I don't. I didn't know that
they play hockey. Can we can we get a double
check on that? I I don't understand how stuff like
that happens. Jason. There's not one person smart enough in
in sports that he's looking over everything. He's just reading
his own script. I I just don't understand how that happens.
That's so embarrassing, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
So apparently the Four Letter called them the Carolina Panthers
during the series with the Rangers on an ESPN graphic,
So they also got that. They got it wrong too.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yeah, but they do that a lot too.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yeah, that's the NHL's network.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Yeah. Yeah, So how embarrassing you talk about a slap
in the face.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Well, I will say this, Look, if you pick the
Panthers as your name, that's pretty popular. Pittsburgh obviously the
two that we've been discussing here, Like there are a
lot of even the the Dylan Panthers and Friday Night Lights, like,
there's there's a lot of different panthers out there. I've
continually pushed that people need to use ghosts for nicknames.

(54:49):
For some reason, it's not used enough spectrum phantom ghost Like,
first off, the mascot would be awesome. You can use
like black and purple with your color scheme and with
white also, I think it would be phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I think merchandise Casper or something like that.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I mean, yeah, but I don't think you could roll
with Casper like something about that.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
I don't that's old school, by the way, young people
have no idea who Casper is.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Right, But like it'd have to be a little bit
different than the ghost. Like I'm not saying you want
to make it frightening, but I think you would clean up.
I would buy all the merch you had, Like we
were talking about Savannah bananas earlier, right, that's mert you
by Montgomery, that's merch you buy. There are some there's
some great minor leagues that we talked about. It would
be but instead of yeah, but instead of picking Panthers,

(55:40):
pick something else exactly, because that's like picking the Cubs.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
It is. There's no thought on that. Was that a
vote was that if that was voted on by the fans,
you rig the vote then and you make sure it's
to what you want. I would think about maybe changing
the name. But you're right, it is embarrassing that you
get that, especially it was Los Angeles that did that.
You think they'd be better than that than somebody would
check that there.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
That's an NHL city.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I think that's a major. It's a major, Top three,
top two with New York, and you got to catch
stuff like that. It just goes at ESPN has done it,
So it goes to show you the little amount of
effort and put into the NHL so far.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
It really would have taken. I mean, I wonder if
somebody saw it on the screen that was in the room.
It's like wait a seconds, I say, Carolina Panthers, or
if they found out in real time, like we.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
All you think the four the Panthers put that up
and say look what they're calling us. Come on, guys,
this is great.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
I want to get it right. Considering they're up one
to oh yeah, exactly. You might want to have that
graphic right if they win and win a cup here
like that, but that might be a thing to do.
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(57:22):
that the Dan Hurley to Lakers story broke and they
stopped talking about the NBA Finals in the NHL Finals. Well,
we're going to stop talking about the NBA Finals for
a minute and talk about Dan Hurley and the Lakers
and everything that goes with that story, including what I
think is a bigger takeaway, which is something has to
be done about the media trying to be first instead

(57:45):
of being right. We'll talk about that when we come
back as Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports Saturday, Fox Sports Radio Live, Antirack dot Com Studios.
I guess you're in the East coast. It's now Fox
Sports Sundays, which night Game two still tomorrow for the
rest of us. The voice you heard saying that's right

(58:06):
is Arney Spaniard. That was not on the song. Sounds
like that could have been there. My wife watched the
Newlywag Game clip and she just died, laughing.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
I have a star in the making, and I should
have gotten in the comedy, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
She was just when I had sent it to her
during the show Arty Spaniard contest on the Newly Wag Game.
If you didn't know that way back in ninety nine, was.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
It, I'm not sure the year. I I think right
around there, but we did win. I just want people
to know that she.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Was she was shocked by based on how you were performing.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Yeah it was ninety six.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I wanted to say, oh it is even earlier.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Okay, yeah ninety six you had hair, had hair, But
I was looking like I was really fat, Dad. Now
I'm just semi fat. I was really really tipping the
scales on that one. I looked like a big banana
on that one. So it was it was a lot
of fun filming it. A matter of fact, I don't
know if I told you this. The final question. They

(59:05):
asked us like about one hundred questions and they were
using twenty and Beth wanted to change one of the
questions and they said, Beth, don't even worry about it,
probably won't even use it. And she says, I want
to change it, and they go, if you have to
change a question, we have to bring up two attorneys.
You got to do paperwork. And my wife is so stubborn.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
She made it happen anyway.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
She made it to it anyway. They changed it. Happened
to be the final question, and it was in bed
as arny sex speed racer or sex in the slow lane.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
This is not an image.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
I just want you to know. She changed it to
the right answer. She changed it to the answer I
gave the second one. No, it was sex speed racer.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
She put, oh it was.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
That was my favorite cartoon. That was the only reason
that was there. I just yeah, want you to know that.
So she changed it to the right one and we
want to trip to Micronesia and the turtle wax and
the right arony, but we didn't get any of it,
so I was kind of bummed about that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
You didn't get any of it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
No, we didn't go to Micronesia because my wife was
pregnant at the time, so I couldn't go with my
mom or my dad or anything like that. And they
never gave us the turtle. I really wanted the rice
aroni though. That that's a San Francisco treat, man. I
love that stuff. So is that still a round. I
don't even know if it's still around.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I'd been a long time since I would have eaten that.
But back the day, the chicken rice aroni for the
beef rice aronde.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
I love that. Yeah, I got none of like yellow
and turtle wax. Is that still a big thing? TURTLEAXI?

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I think it was still about dead.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
So you didn't get any of that, none of that.
Very disappointing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Wow, that's a shame. Quite a story. Speaking of stories,
it seems like a lot of people got this one wrong. Yeah,
Thursday morning, we get news from Adrian wolshan Erouski DESPN
about the Lakers pursuit of and impending gigantic offer two.

(01:01:00):
I'm defending college basketball champion coach Danny Hurley at Yukon. Right,
this is off like it could have been two days
before Shams Sharania at the Athletic was there finalizing JJ
Reddick as the head coach, and Reddick's name had been everywhere.
Did you know by the way that Reddick had said

(01:01:22):
in an interview during that timeframe that he was going
to have a lot to say to Shams in the future.
He wasn't going to do it in the present, but
he was going to do it in the future. Like that,
Shams was talking out of his rear end. He was
hurting Reddick, like he was making Reddick look bad by
saying he was close to the job when he actually wasn't.
I did not know that. But Reddick kind of came

(01:01:45):
out and he was just like, yeah, I'm not gonna
comment it now. I'm worried about the finals, but you know,
there's gonna be a time to talk about Shams. I'm
interested to hear about that. But yeah, first off, let's
talk about get to the media side of it, right,
But the actual news itself, right, It kind of just

(01:02:07):
blew me away, not because it didn't make any sense,
just because it hadn't been spoken. I didn't. I had
not seen his name anywhere nowhere, and then all of
a sudden, he's the guy they've been zeroing in on
from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Do you well? I have a couple things on this one.
First of all, I thought, you know, I look into that.
Did you see that video that came out with Hurley
at the Billy Joel concert in New York? Did you
see that? It was on Twitter? I guess he's at
the Billy Joel concert. So I'm trying to go in
my mind going, if you just signed the big deal
contract with the Lakers, are you going to the Billy

(01:02:49):
Joel concert too? Is he supposed to have a meeting
with his team tomorrow from what I understand, to tell
them what his plans were? And three, if he was
coming back, wouldn't that weaked out by now? Am I
getting the timeframe wrong on this, Jason? Because if he was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Going to meeting with his team tomorrow, I haven't seen that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
That was one report I had seen that he was
going to meet with the team tomorrow. If he was
coming back. I would think that would leak out. Does
you read anything into him going to the Billy Joe
concert looking happy and having a good time if I
inside the new contry, I don't know. I don't know
if I can go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Out, and because because the contract could be from either place,
like I mean, it could be a leverage deal for
Yukon right, No, I understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Yeah, but if I'm going to LA, I'm not going
out and having fun. I'm thinking about, Okay, where am
I gonna live? Let's start looking at the houses on
the internet. Blah blah blah. You know, I'm we gotta start,
you know, starting the process. I don't know. I just
maybe I'm reading too much into it. But I'm trying to,
you know, feel the room here, feel which way he's
going to go. And I'm just not feeling that he's

(01:03:53):
going to go to the Lakers and that the Lakers
are gonna end up getting JJ Reddick after the whole
NBA Finals are done.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah, you know, I mean he met with him on Friday,
and he met with Polanka, and he met with Genie Buss.
From every story that I saw, it seemed like on
Thursday it felt like it was done, because the leak
felt like it was or the story felt like it
was set up as if they were already almost to

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home plate.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
It felt like that did not I had me believe
in that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I said to the text, and I was like, this
has to be done right right, it has to be
done for this to be out, because there has to
be a reason to put this out, especially in the
day the NBA Finals starts, and to kind of take
the steam away and that become the storyline. But then
since yesterday evening, it's just kind of gotten quiet. All

(01:04:45):
of a sudden. You notice no one's writing articles either.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Well, they're saying that if he wants an NBA job,
he really wants the New York Knicks job, but that's
not open right now, and his wife really prefers to
stay in the East Coast. That's been made, you know,
numerous times on that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I believe he's going to stay. I know that there's
talk about, you know, he really does want to challenge
himself to do the NBA thing. I get it. Look,
Billy Donovan did it. He won a couple of Florida
He ended up finally making the move himself. It has
happened before, and his ego is gigantic. So Dan Hurley
wanting to do it on the top level, I could
understand that, But going west, I mean, he's an East

(01:05:25):
Coast guy, right, His family are East Coast people.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Not a good situation to get in with Lebron and
Brody in that whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
No, it's really not. I mean, you're not going there
for Lebron. You're going there for long term jobs, acurastically,
whatever the future's going to be. You're going there for
the rebuild. You're not going there for right now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I remember gd BUS is not one of the richest
owners in the NBA. She's probably down on the lower
end of that whole scale. So I don't know how
much money she's paying for a coach, to be honest
with you. And by the way, the money this mostly
they were offering him. I think Kentucky had offered him
that a year or so ago.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
You know, yeah, I just it doesn't it doesn't seem
to fit to me, just into like it fits from
a basketball perspective, in terms of like Danny Hurley is
an offensive genius. You've heard Lebron talk about that. He
actually and Dan Patrick actually kind of joked about this that.
You know, JJ Reddick had Hurley on that podcast, right,

(01:06:22):
and for like three minutes, Hurley lays out his offense
and he goes into all his detail and then Lebron
calls him a genius, and then Lebron then goes to
the office. He's like, actually, Danny Hurley is a guy,
not JJ Reddick. He's kind of half joking. But I
just let me ask you this, if he wanted to
go to the Knicks, like if that was the actual
truth that he actually did the NBA job he wants

(01:06:43):
is a Knicks do you just go ahead and boot
Tom Thibodeau And no, he says, a Knicks fan interested.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
You know, look, I love Hurley, but I'm not going
to do that. They've got great chemistry. You've always talked
about chemistry. I'm okay with TIBs. They love playing for TIBs.
That's the thing too. It's not like they don't like
him or they think these prices too much. They really
do like the guy. They love them, they respect him. No,
I'm not making a change whatsoever, even for somebody like early.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Okay, good, let's go to the saga. We'll come back
we'll talk more about this. There's a lot to get to.
Luckily we're only halfway through the show.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
Di Saga, what's up as far as Laker ownership. It
is only two thirds of the Lakers that the Bus
family owns, and there are six kids, So it's two
thirds divided by six, is what, Genie Bus?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Genie, Please don't ask me to figure out what Jimmy
fraction actually is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I think I thought there was only three of them.
I didn't know there were four.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
And then two with another woman that are younger. Okay,
by the way, you reference the Montgomery Biscuits minor league
baseball team this hour. They are going to be playing
a minor league game this month at historic Rickwood Field
at Birmingham, and then two days later is the Fox
TV game, a major league game there on Thursday, June twentieth.

(01:07:53):
Ticketing capacity will be about eight thousand, three hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
I'm bound to bring it up again next weekend as
we get closed, sir. But the teams that night are
going to wear throwback uniforms that highlight the history of
the Negro leagues in those two cities, Saint Louis and
San Francisco. Because the Birmingham Black Bearons, including Willie Mays
played there for nearly four decades, starting in nineteen twenty four.
So it's going to be a minor league game and

(01:08:17):
a major League game there. And MLB is completely redoing
the stadium just for this one week, just like MLB
is redoing reconfiguring a soccer stadium in London this weekend.
Oh yeah right, London was the site of a Phillies
win over the Mets seven to today. This is west
Ham United Stadium in London that was reconfigured. Bryce Harper

(01:08:37):
had three hits, including his fifteenth homer.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
I can't imagine they sold too many jackets. Did you
see those jackets? Half Meds, half Phillies?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Who sent me that like first thing Friday morning logos
on I was like, that's the worst jacket I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Right, have one side Cowboys, one sided Giants there, that's
crazy Yankees.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
This week saw a hat that had ninety nine judge.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
I saw o'tania you lucky slap.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
I saw a guy in the stands tonight wearing a
Padres hat and a Dodgers jersey at the game doing
what's happened to went on here exactly what is going on? Well,
Florida won Game one of the Stanley Cup Final three
nothing over Edmonton tonight. Game two at Florida on Monday.
NBA Finals Game two is Sunday night at Boston. By
the way, you talk about really no buzz like some

(01:09:30):
other NBA finals. Yeah, and it's not like we don't
have star power on the court.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
By that way.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
The NBA Finals, as far as TV ratings, has now
opened below the fourteen million viewer mark six straight years.
It was eleven million viewers for Game one at Boston
this week. That's down five percent from last year. It's
down about ten percent from when the Celtics were in
the finals a couple of years ago, eleven million viewers.
US Women's Olympic basketball has gotten eleven million viewers who

(01:09:59):
for and that was in the London games on a
Saturday morning. Just for the record, Even the US women's
basketball gold medal game at the last Olympics at Japan
got almost eight million viewers.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
That did well, and there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Weren't many TV shows getting those kind of numbers, as
you recall. In twenty twenty at twenty twenty one, well,
the LA Dodgers won at Yankee Stadium tonight eleven to three,
ti Oscar Hernandez with two home runs, including a grand slam,
Dodger postgame host David Vasse saying the last time the
Dodger scored double digit runs against the Yankees was the
opening game of the nineteen seventy eight World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Wow, so it's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Been a while.

Speaker 5 (01:10:35):
Eleven to three the final tonight. Aaron Judge did have
two solo homers in the loss. He's up to twenty three.
Round Trippers San Diego a thirteen to one winner against Arizona.
The Padres had just ended a five game losing streak
last night. The late game has Houston ahead of the
Angels six to one at Anaheim in the bottom of
the eighth. Cleveland an eight to nothing winner at Miami.

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Ben Lively six and two the winning pitcher, he pitched
five innings on record forty one and twenty two. Marlins
had beaten them three to two last night to end
their four game losing streak. Colorado was twenty two and
forty one, but did get a win at Saint Louis
six to five. Rockies had lost six of their last seven,
but short step Ezekiel Tovar four for four two homers.

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Reds won their seventh straight four three over the Cubs.
Cubs with runners in scoring position went one for fourteen.
Baltimore wins again five nothing at Tampa Bay. The Rays
offense two for twenty nine with fourteen strikeouts. Baltimore's record
forty one and twenty two victories for Pittsburgh. Toronto and
the White Sox beat Boston for a second straight day,

(01:11:39):
six to one. Just last night, the White Sox had
ended a fourteen game losing streak. Agos Fiantek took the
French Open, her fourth in five years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Back to you. Yeah, she took it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:49):
She dominated it, absolutely dominant, unclass crushed it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
What's coming up? In the final segment of the hour, which,
by the way, on on the rundown sent by you
guys out in La, it says de segment. And I
had let that die because I was just like, I
tried to make it a thing. It didn't work. Okay,
I'm gonna go ahead and retreat here and get all
stage before the tomatoes start coming in. And now you're
sending me to segment.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
I like it. I like it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
Whatever works, fine, I have nothing to do with fine
either way. Whatever so what we will get a couple
of braids notes in here. I know we mentioned baseball
with some other teams. I know one Aaron Tares is
not here, but I may mention Kentucky, Kentucky, Kentucky winning
tonight in Connecticut, losing tonight in college baseball super Regionals.

(01:12:33):
And we did have a Belmont Stakes in between the
London Baseball and the Yankee Stadium baseball on Fox.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
TV today and former Philly had a nice day. Not
talking about the horse.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
It was not a Philly that won the rest in
a sense.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
But yes, so we'll have the segment when we come
back out of the break. That's all coming back. We
are in the Tireck dot com studios, so we're gonna
have to jump back into it. I think in the
third hour we'll talk more about Danny Hurley and the Lakers,
just your general feeling. We got to get into the

(01:13:10):
media side of this as well, but just your general sense.
I think he's going to stay yeah, and I maybe
he's going to tell his team to that tomorrow. I
haven't seen that anything. It just said he was going
to mold the job over the weekend. I just it
seems to me he'll have his opportunity to do whatever
he wants. I understand the Lakers or the franchise. I

(01:13:32):
understand that, but it's not the best situation to walk into.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
No, it isn't. It isn't, And I agree with you.
I think he is going to say I don't think
the money was worth him leaving. He's got back to
back championships, his wife likes these coast I wouldn't want
to deal with lebron and Bronnie and what I was
a Fanthony Davis gets heard, it's gonna make you look bad.
He really wants the Knick's job, and who knows if
that's not going to be open two years, three years,

(01:13:57):
four years down the line until that he could stay.
At you, Cohn, I don't think he's going to take it.
I have no insight on that. No, you know, secret
sources like Woaj and Shams and all those guys, But
I think he's gonna end up staying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I feel like you're right. So we will come back
and we will have this segment and we'll hear what
Steve has for us. He always has really good material there,
and we will jump back into the Danny Hurly thing
from the other side, which is just how this story
is reported. Reddick's stuff is John's gonna end up being right,
and it's gonna be Reddick in the end. Anyway, There's
just a number of different things to get into when
it comes to the way this whole thing has played out.

(01:14:35):
That plus a lot of finals chatter still to come
on the program, and a couple of NFL notes, like
there's not a lot happening outside of Justin Jefferson now
owning the entire state of Minnesota. I think based on
his contract, and what does that mean for if you
are Jamar Chase, for example, And what are you gonna
do if you're the Bengals, And what are you gonna

(01:14:55):
do if you're one of these teams that didn't pay
And Arnie, be thankful your Dolphins w and handled Jayalen
Waddle before that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
You forget sure, absolutely, I'm glad we got him signed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
That's right. So we'll come back. We will talk to
Steve Desager, who makes just about I don't know, half
percent less than Justin Jefferson. Based on what I'm told,
he's the highest paid employee of Fox Sports. We'll come
back it is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.
How was gonna let that one breathe for a minute.

(01:15:25):
It is Fox Sports Saturday here Fox Sports Radio live
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And we're never alone. Let's go to Steve De Sager.

(01:15:46):
I'm gonna do it again. We just see if it sticks.
The dis segment begins right now as he brings us
an extended update.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Steve Howdy, we had to mention, first off, the passing
of a basketball Hall.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Yeah, I was gonna bring that up to you. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
Chat Walker has died at the age of eighty four.
He had played with Philadelphia and Chicago through nineteen seventy five,
averaged eighteen points a game. So he was on the
Philadelphia team over fifty years ago with Wilt Chamberlain that
eliminated the Great Boston Celtics from the postseason. The Celtics
with Bill Russell, had won the championship eight years in
a row until that Great Philly team of nineteen sixty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
And also who passed away. I don't know if you
were going to bring this up. Pete Maravich's son, who
was only forty two years old, really passed away on Friday.
They haven't released the cause of death. He was young too.
How old was his father?

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
He died at forty two? I remember, so we got
a forty two.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
He died in Pasadena, James Dobson of Focus On the
family used to have headquarters in Los Angeles, and they
had a gym, and he was playing a pickup game
and after one of the games, Pete Marivitch says, this
is great. I feel so great. I haven't played basketball
in a while. And he wound up dying at the gym.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Wait a minute, So.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
So merriv old Sun died at forty two. How old
was Marevich when he died. I'll have to look it up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Yeah, don't tell me. They were both forty two and
he passed away. Oh my goodness. Wow, that'd be crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Got at forty.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Wow, there's got to be something in eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
And yes, of course to Sega was right Pasadena.

Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
Wow, So that's incredible. Well, earlier tonight I had mentioned
the soccer at Texas A and M tonight, eighty five
thousand fans on hand to see Brazil score late to
beat Mexico three to two. We had women's soccer at
Wrigley Field. The Chicago Red Stars of the NWSL set
an attendance record for single game in that league, thirty

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five thousand fans at Wrigley. They lose to an expansion
team BAFC, two to one. This is a Chicago team
in that league that playing in the suburbs last summer
had the league's lowest average attendance under five thousand fans
a game, thirty five thousand at Wrigley for this game tonight,
We're gonna have another MLB first rounder from last summer
into the Major League starting tomorrow. The Atlanta Braves are

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bringing up pitcher Hurston Waldrip to start. We've already had
the number one overall pick from last summer, the Pirates,
Paul Skeins, wowing people in the major leagues. This guy's
gonna start the finale of the series against Washington, so
Max Freed will be pushed back to the game at
Baltimore on Tuesday night. More on the Orioles later, but
Waldrop is a Georgia native, grew up a Braves fan

(01:18:28):
and gets to put on the Braves uniform tomorrow. He's
been at Double A and Triple A this year, played
college baseball at Southern Miss and one at Florida. Florida
Gators baseball won at Clemson to open the weekend best
of three, ten to seven. NC State won it's game
one eighteen to one at Georgia. Kentucky and Texas A
and M, ranked two and three in the country, each

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got game one victories, advancing where Virginia, North Carolina and
Florida State, which won it's Game one yesterday against Yukon
twenty four to four and eliminated Yukon in twelve innings
today ten to eight. As far as the Baltimore Orioles,
their leadoff man is Gunner Henderson. He's on pace for
fifty homers and over one hundred RBIs. The most home

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runs in a season out of the leadoff spot was
set last year Ronald Acunya with forty one The most
RBIs out of the leadoff spot in a season set
last year Mookie Betts one hundred and seven RBIs. He's
on pace at least to pass both of those. Gunner
Henderson is a shortstop who's six three two twenty. Last year,
his first full season in the BIGS, he had twenty

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eight homers. He has about twenty homers already and his
Orioles team is about twenty games over the five hundred
mark already. At the Belmont, which is not in Elmont,
New York this year or next because of reconstruction, Saratoga hosting,
and it was packed. The winning horse at seventeen to one,
door Knock takes the Belmont Stakes, and yes, the horse

(01:19:51):
is co owned by former outfielder Jason Worth. Congratulations. The
Derby runner up, Sierra Leone, went off as the favorite,
but started portly wound up third. This is the sixth
straight year that a different horse has won each of
the three Triple Crown races. NASCAR's on Fox TV from
the Road Course at Sonoma Sunday three thirty pm Eastern Time,

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and the UFL Football Conference finals are this weekend. Birmingham
still Alive, trailed first half today eighteen to three, but
came back thirty one to eighteen over Michigan Saint Louis,
which has been getting the great attendance. Host San Antonio
Sunday Night on Fox TV. Last weekend, Saint Louis clinched
home field advantage, winning thirteen to twelve over San Antonio,
and that we're thirty four thousand at that game. The

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league's championship game will be in Saint Louis a week
from Sunday, Arnie, who.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Did you have in your gambling pool for the UFL
in the UFC.

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
He's just enough of a degenerate to have an answer
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Ye, so weird. Everything is cities and then there's Michigan.
Just throws me in the whole states.

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
Like California Angels.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
What's going on everybody? Our number three of the program, Torres,
is out for another week. You'll be back with me
a week from to day. Plank will be with you
tomorrow because oh use one their fourth straight in college softball,
so there's no more that he can play or on
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for you, forget about that. That plus summer schedule, and
in my graduate school program, there's not a whole lot
of a lot of time. Maybe we'll try to get
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We'll talk about the NBA Finals here in just a second.
But big story of yesterday really was Kaitlyn Clark and
the source, the sourcing that she's gonna be left off
a team USA. I've been kind of looking during the

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breaks just to see what the general consensus is and
some of the articles that are being written, and one
of the things that I have seen I saw this
just a little while ago from one of the analysts
of the WNBA, basically suggesting that FIBA International women's basketball
is going to be too physical for Kaitlin Clark right now. Okay,
and that may well, look that could be true. I'm

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not sure it is a physical game. So it was
a w NBA exactly, I mean, and she is. And
you heard Geno Rim say this on I don't know
if he said it on col Her, but he said
it somebody last week. And I know Colin commented on it,
but generally said, you know, set her up for fail.
She's on a bad team. It's gonna take some time,
not to mention, she's under size right now, so she

(01:23:06):
can't handle some of the bullying that's going on and
all these other things. It's just like, I mean, she
did not know any of that. I had seen some speculation.
Maybe she wishes she had stayed in college for another
year and made some money, and maybe this wouldn't have
happened next year. Sure it would have. It had been
it had been ten times worse because she'd have come
back and had another year of everybody talking about her
in college and what she was doing before she got there.

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It just would have been. It would have delayed the inevitable,
but probably increased it even further. If she came back
and had another glory year and everybody fawned all over
and didn't talk about the WNBA women like I think
it would have been that she had to go. In
terms of that being the argument, it wasn't that that
it was going to be easier for her next year.
Could she have made some money in state in Iowa

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and maybe won a championship. Maybe certainly could have done that,
and this still would have been waiting for her. But
so would the vitriol, So would the jealousy. Would a
lot of these same storylines. And again I understand that
it comes across when we have these discussions like it's
everybody in the league and it's not. I'm sure that
it's just some vocal stuff. But every one of these

(01:24:12):
has been picked up and reported on big. So the
optics are Caitlyn Clark is receiving treatment that seems ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
It is, Well, that's the way I feel. I you know,
there's a few haters out there that think that this
is good or they're saying, which one do you leave off?
Which one do you? First of all, there's a reason
you could leave off three people off the top. I
gave you the stats of Caitlin Clark and Diana Tarassi.
Caitlyn Clark leads her in every statistic category, so she

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deserves it by that way, it was it Chelsea Gray
is that who it is has not played a game
all season because she's hurt. And then again, you do
want people on the team that will go ahead and
be proud to be American, stand for the flag and
that issue. And there is one person on the team

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that didn't do that for a while, even though she
is doing it now. So there's three people you could
probably and it's also hurt a little bit, but there's
three people you could probably replace her with. As for
being too physical for I doubt it because they're probably
gonna name her an alternate. And if they do that,
then they're saying, Okay, it's not too physical for her
because we're gonna put her on the team if somebody

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gets hurt. So that's why I don't buy into that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Also, yeah, look, if they if you're right, if you're
right about them throwing this out as a trial balloon
so that they can then come in and swoop in
and make her an alternate when they release the full information. Yeah,
early in the week or whatever. If that's true, then
the argument that that I read has no merit at
all if it's too physical for it's too physical for

(01:25:45):
her to.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Be exactly yes, right, you're right about that. I think
I think she's gonna find their way on the team.
To be honest with you, I don't know how they're
gonna do it. I don't know how it's gonna come out.
I don't know if they're gonna say that was never
our official release. Here's the official visual ease.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
I don't know what's going to happen. I still find
the way that I think she's gonna find the way
onto that team.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
I don't I think it. I I really don't. And
I think that there's then gonna be a lot of
stuff about, well you're wrong if you don't watch the
women that are actually on the team, and it's gonna
be the same kind of stuff, and it's gonna be
just as much of a turn off as this is.
And again they are approaching that territory where people are
just gonna say, all right, fine, we just won't watch

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her either.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
We're just going right and you know, look, we're gonna
watch the Olympics because we watch the Olympics for the
USA for the name on the shot, not for the
name on the back. So we're gonna watch the women's
team just like we're gonna watch the men's team. And
you know, we're gonna go ahead and we're still going
to root for them. There's not gonna be any you know,
narrative here, and we want them to lose. You should

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have put Caitland Clark on the team and all that.
We want them to win your Americans. Of course we're
behind you one, but we also want Caitlin Clark on
the team, whether she gets limited playing time or not.
You know, I wouldn't get upset if she got in
five minutes a game, ten minutes a game. She's gonna
get play a time. Each game is gonna be a
thirty point blowout. So what are you worried about anyway?

(01:27:12):
You know, Jason, I had a crazy idea a long
time ago. Remember the men's team that got the gold
medal taken away ended up with the silver when they
played the Russians, and the Russians had three times to
throw it in. They never picked up their silver medals.
I say, I once said, let each one or two
guys from that team play with the Dream Team and

(01:27:35):
let's get them the gold medal they deserved, you know,
crazy stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
So that was the team Doug Collins was on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Yes, Doug Collins was on. Matter of fact, a couple
of guys have it in their will that their relatives.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I know, wasn't that the coach?

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
I think you're right about that. They have it in
their will that even their relatives are not allowed to
pick up the silver medal. That's in like some safety depop.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Man. Yeah, I've seen like a documentary on that years
and years ago. Yeah, that was, Oh my goodness, Oh
that was. It was a super compelling as a documentary,
Like the story is unreal. But man, you want to
talk about dirty pool, Oh, there is no Like That's
one of the most egregious things I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Right, Could you imagine if that up and nowadays to
the United States against Russia, We'd be going crazy, We'd
be ballistic right now with all the social media and
Twitter and all that stuff. It'd be getting around the
coverage news. But I always said that with those guys,
a couple of the guys should be on the Dream
Team so they can get the gold medal. Obviously they
wouldn't have really earned it like they did before. But

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you know, we're just having fun with that. It just
goes to show you that it doesn't make it an event.
Wo the eleventh or twelfth, the thirteenth person is, you're
gonna win the gold medal anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Right, That's right. That's one hundred percent of eight They
haven't lost or they've won since ninety six, like they
don't lose. Issue one of the twelve best, No, probably
not at this stage going into the WNBA, she's probably not.
I mean, I don't know enough, and I'll admit that fully,
I don't know enough, but I assume she's probably not
one of the top twelve. But I can tell you

(01:29:08):
she is by far number one when it comes to
any chance that that sport had of advancing past what
it's always been from a rating standpoint. On any Olympics, Like,
whoever watches international and they tune in for women's basketball
at that point in time because it's international, they'll probably
still watch, but no one else is. As a matter
of fact, some less probably will because they'll see this

(01:29:30):
and just say, all right, well screw it, and they'll
just move on and again, it's just getting tiresome. All
the stories are getting tiresome.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
You know what it is, though, it's the anti Caton
Clark crowd. Yes, that narrative is what's making this down,
is what's draggon. This is a story that's supposed to
be uplifted. Here we are, we're talking about women's sports,
women's basketball. We're getting excited about it. We got men
who were the reasons why the WNBA is around. Now

(01:30:00):
now we're getting more into it. We want to see
her succeed. We're giving you positive feedback, and all we're
getting is back negative stuff. No, she shouldn't be on
the team. No, stop paying so much attention to her. No,
it's the whole league. You could have done this three
years ago. On and on and on. The negativity that's
surrounding this girl. It's unacceptable, is what it really is.

(01:30:24):
And I can't wait to find out the real reason
how the voting went, why to keep her off the team.
I can't wait for that if it ever does come out.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
I mean, just the whole idea is like, would you
pay attention to us, pay attention to us, pay attention
to us, but don't pay attention to her right, No,
that's not okay. Look, look so we have to pay
attention to exactly the way that you want us to.
All of a sudden, Yes, there is a gigantic interest level.
I walked into a sporting good store a couple of
days ago. Guess what, there's a lot of Clark merchandise.

(01:30:54):
I'm in Tennessee, not in Indiana. There were Indiana fever
t shirts, twenty two, the whole nine. This is what
you're gonna get, and it's just the way it has
to be right now. And I do think that maybe
you have a chance to grow out of this. I'm skeptical.
I've said that from the start. It just felt like
this was I wouldn't call it a flash in the pan.
I would just call this something. This is lightning in

(01:31:16):
a bottle. You're not gonna be able to just keep
this forever and duplicate it, but you have an opportunity
for however long she wants to play, especially if she
continues to improve, gets better. All of those things knocks
off some of the turnovers and some of that stuff.
The best take I heard all week, I think, was,
and I've mentioned before, it's like It's not like the
Spurs were tearing it up with women Mignanna, but we

(01:31:38):
all know what wom Mignon is going to be and
he was super fun to watch. But they had the
exact same record that they did the year prior. So
you look at the Fever and you look, that's a
bad basketball team, right, that's a really bad team. Like
looking at it just objectively, that's a bad basketball team.
And she was not going to turn them in to

(01:32:00):
superstar contenders for a title, but she was going to
make them relevant and she's certainly already done it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
I want to say, while we're on the WNBA, Jason,
and I'm going to take this theory on this, Shame
on the WNBA, by the way, absolutely shame on them
because Angel Reeves put out a tweet that said they
were called ghetto blanks I don't want to say the word,
and that they were attacked by a so called reporter.

(01:32:31):
I guess is that what it is. Are you telling
me the NBA is not looking into this, that there
are police, there won't be charges on the assault. Yeah,
you know why because I don't even believe that happened.
Was we saw the video and I never saw proof
that anything like that was even ever said, So what's

(01:32:51):
with the tweet? What's going on here? I think it's
crazy you put out a tweet like that when it
really didn't happen. We've seen no proof of it what soever.
And if it did happen, why we know who the
guy is? Why has he not been arrested? That's assault.
Why has he not been arrested. Why have we not
found out his name? Why has it not been a

(01:33:12):
backlash from the females out there saying you can't say
this about our w NBA players. Get this guy in jail.
Nobody's saying crap about this. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Well, I mean they claimed, you know, the video was doctored.
I saw that after the fact that I heard that
the video is doctor that is not. That does not
show the whole thing. He used, all these you know,
slurs and all these other kinds of things. But there's
no footage of any of that, right, so no evidence
of it. It's just it's just hearsay. It's just you know,

(01:33:41):
your word against that person's and I don't I don't
know what to make of that other than I haven't
seen much on the story and if we can tell,
usually you can tell there's no there's nothing behind this
because it's faded into nothing, like there's no one's talking
about it that story anymore. That usually means, especially when

(01:34:03):
it doesn't fit the narrative that you want from a
media perspective, it's just okay, I guess we can't manufacture this,
and we got to let it go, and that's that's it,
just and it just kind of moves out of the
news cycle. And if there had been evidence of the opposite,
if the video had shown what they claimed that he
said and all this, oh, it would still be a

(01:34:24):
top headline everywhere. And that's what's frustrating about it, is like,
if this was crying wolf, if it happened, that's horrible.
First of all, right, if it didn't happen, guess what,
that's horrible because of what was implied and crying wolf
in that kind of and this kind of situation, to me,

(01:34:45):
is is horrifying.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
By the way, who would doctor the video. I'm just
kind of curious. I don't know the government, who who's
doctoring the video on something like that. The hotel they
want to risk their life and hundreds of millions of
dollars of lawsuits for saying, here's the video, we doctored it.
Hope you don't find out who doctored the video. I

(01:35:09):
I there was no evidence of that video being doctored.
And two, if that was really said, there'd be harsher
penalties and we'd be trying to find that guy. I'm
surprised that guy didn't come out, and he was calling
her by her last day, saying miss so and so
and being very polite from what I saw out there,
So I don't know what they were complaining about, but

(01:35:31):
I think when you cry wolf like that next time,
people won't believe you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Yeah, I said, I don't know what happened, but they yes,
we do not. They haven't given me the burden.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
Approved we saw the video. We know what happened. We
saw the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Video right exactly like I'm just saying, we weren't there.
So what we have to deal with is what we
were shown. Right, Nothing that we have seen proves the account.
Nothing that was zero nothing zero. And by the way,
the bodyguard was there. All we have to do is go,
let's talk to him. Are the police talking to him,

(01:36:04):
Is the WNBA talking to him? They're just kind of
hoping this one goes away.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
But why isn't we come out, Why isn't the bodyguard
come out and said, yeah, what that guy did was horrible.
And by the way, what kind of bodyguard are you
that you let a assault happen by letting him call
him ghetto blanks. You should have punched him out and
knocked his head off. Why didn't you? Because I wasn't
said so either you're a horrible bodyguard, and we're gonna

(01:36:30):
go ahead and make sure everybody knows your name, or
come out with the truth. Let's go, somebody tell us
the truth. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Look, that's a good argument, and no question about that
feels too gazy to me. That's one of bit Maler's
favorite words. So I'm gonna take it. It's that is.
I will call that bunk. Can't you show me opposite?
I will easily eat those words.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
The video I got it wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Show me the video was doctor, and then I'll say, okay,
you put there was no video that was doctored. That's
what happened, and you know it would have happen. You
would have went ahead and made a bigger think about it,
like you said.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Yeah, we'll come back. We're gonna get back into the
NBA Finals. We need to talk about game two. How
do the Mavericks kind of reverse the trend? Because everything
you're reading now is oh boy, they're done. It's one game,
one game, but game two could be everything that's next.
He's only spanning Jason Martin here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Saturdays Live tyreck dot com studios.
He's only spanning, im, Jason Martin. We'll have another update
with Steve Sager coming up in a couple of minutes.
But what's the biggest change the Mavericks need to make
in game two? What's the what's the biggest thing, Arnie
when you look at what happening game one that needs

(01:38:02):
to be fixed immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
I don't know if you really do anything differity you
dance with who brung it? Just because you played one
bad game, And let's be honest, Porzingis is not gonna
have that game again. You did a very good job
against Tatum if you told me you could sign them
up for sixteen points again, going six to sixteen, I'd say,
where do I sign I'll take that every time, and
especially Brown with only twenty two, I'd be very happy

(01:38:24):
with that. I don't know if you changed too much.
You just hope that the shots are falling a little
bit more for Dallas this time. You really don't want
Lucas shooting what twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight times
or whatever it was out there. You want a little
bit more ball movement and maybe they won't be as rusty.
You were right when you said the time off really

(01:38:45):
helped the Celtics over Dallas. I thought it was gonna
be the other way around. I think maybe they get
back on a little bit of a schedule, and you know,
hopefully Kyrie turns it around as a big game. I
think you just threw out the first game, and you
come out and you play Dallas Maverick Battle, which has
got to this point they've played real well up though.
Now remember buzzing at a pretty easy road. So I

(01:39:07):
think Dallas gets back on track a little bit here.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
Yeah, I mean, I even if they lose Game two,
I don't think it's going to be nearly as lopside
as Game one. No, No, I mean the thing that
has to change is they can't get off to that start.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
No, you can't be down seventeen at the end of
the first no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
And they're they're not in a position where Luka Doncic
cannot score. Like if he takes twenty eight shots, he
needs fifty points. Like, as long as you're efishing, I
don't care how many shots he takes, as long as
he's making a bunch of shots. Right, if he shoots
twenty five times to give you twenty seven points, now
we've got a problem exactly that becomes That becomes I

(01:39:44):
think the biggest concern that and just do whatever you can.
I understand they're the best three points shooting team in
the league, but do whatever you can to just avoid that.
It seems like the Celtics are really good and have
been all year, and this is probably why they're the
best three point shooting team in the league. At the
one extra pass that somehow freeze up somebody that's going

(01:40:06):
to make it eighty five ninety percent time, feels like
and in critical spots when they need one to just
pull back where maybe the teams made like a five
point run on them and cut a lead, They're able
to pull it back with a three, And I think
you can't give up those looks. You've got to challenge them.
I do agree with you the poorzingis effect. I can't

(01:40:27):
imagine being that big over and over again. If it is,
then the maps are done. Like if he's going to
play like that, the maps are done.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
No, you're right about that. That's for the three point shooting.
Look what they got Tatum, Brown, White, and Drew Holliday
legitimate three.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Point shooters, and Pritchard is too should be.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
Pritchard, Drew, Holliday and Hortford can hit three pointers went open.
You got six guys that can nail it down. That's
why they shoot the most three pointers in the NBA.
Able to have confidence that there shot, I'd be doing
the same thing they've done this all year. That's why
the number one seed, Dallas has to go ahead or
run with them a little bit. If you would have
told them before the game that the Celtics would only

(01:41:06):
have one O seven, I think Dallas would have been
happy with that. The game went way under so obviously
Dallas has to look at that eighty nine and I mean, look,
Kyrie and Luca, they were what eighteen of forty five
or something like that. You know, that's what about not
that terrible at thirty eight thirty nine percent, But they
have to do a lot better, especially Kyrie only had

(01:41:27):
twelve points in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Yeah, and again, I mean they started making shots later
in the game, but they were absolutely brutal early and
that put them in a big time hole. So even
when they got hot, Uh, they had to come from
so far behind that it only took a little mini
run to put it back out of reach. The one
advantage I do think you can and I think you
sort of said this. At some point you realized you
were gonna lose the basketball game. Right at that point,

(01:41:51):
you just throw that one into garbage. Example Jay when
Hurts years ago to saying just flush it, like you
gotta let it go. Event Sometimes it's just not gonna
be your night. I mean, you go back and you
watch the Western Conference semi finals with Minnesota and Denver.
None of those games were close, like one team just
seemed to have it on any given night. It didn't

(01:42:11):
matter who was home, it was away. That was the
Celtics Knight. Everything went right for him. You have Porzingis
come back off an injury and give you twenty right right,
just wait nuts in the first yeah, and go absolutely
crazy in the first half and in the first quarter, particularly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
That pay That set the pace that given a big
halftime lead where they could do you know, afford to
make some mistakes and not really panic. Like I said,
they did get it down to eight, and I found
that interesting, but they got it right back up after that,
so that set the pace for them. Poor Zingis was
a big part. But like we said earlier, no way
he puts that in again. If he does, Heck, he

(01:42:47):
may win MVP of the of the finals that he
keeps playing like this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Yeah, I mean if they if they get that kind
of performance out of him, Knowing what Tatum and Brown
are both capable of, you can hang it up. Regardless
of whether you think Luka don should the best player
in the league, He's not gonna be able to audule
three guys, and even him and Kyrie, I don't think
he'll be able to audule three guys. But I still
I feel like that's probably the best game Porzingis will
play in the series. It was just I don't know
what happened. It was an incredible thing to watch. I

(01:43:15):
don't see it happening again. I think that the one
mistake you can make if your Dallas is coming in
too aggressive and trying to force the issue. Just play
your game. Let it come to you, because you're gonna
have the opportunity. You play fast anyway. You take a
lot of shots. Luka, Doncic makes some of the most
difficult shots you're ever gonna see. Just continue to play

(01:43:36):
your game. But don't get don't get tight. I guess
this is what I would say, And I think that's
the one risk that you come off of a loss
like that and then you come in trying to flip
the script too quickly, and that puts you in another hole.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
By the way, on a little side note, of course,
you know I'm up here in the Northeast. A lot
of Boston Celtic fans out there. I know one guy.
He makes an okay living nothing great, okay, obviously bills
and blah blah blah. He brought two tickets to the game.
Horrible seats, I mean the worst. I don't know, you
know how bad it could be, but I mean the

(01:44:10):
Boondocks on top up of there, I think it was
eight hundred dollars plus per seat, per seat, by the way,
that's a lot of money for one NBA game. That's
I know the super Bowl goes for a lot more,
but that's a lot of money. I don't know if
I could dish that out, to be honest with.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
You, it's a lot. You're right. I had that opportunity
a few years ago to maybe go to the Braves
World Series game and I think it was about seven
hundred dollars to go to Atlanta Real and do that,
and that might have been the game that won it
all and I had a chance to maybe be there
for the clincher, and I actually talked to Torres on
air and we crowdsourced and we have people tweeting us

(01:44:49):
in and giving me advice on what I should do.
And because it's a ton of money, and it didn't
feel like the best stewardship of that money, but it
was also once in a lifetime and with my wife,
let me go and yes you would, and like it
was a big deal. I ended up, of course not going,
and I still regret it because I did have an
opportunity to see my team win a championship.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
And how much were tickets?

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
You said back there, about seven hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
There's a lot of money then, a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Yeah, I mean sports tickets. Sports has arguably priced out
the real fan, the regular fan, I should say, not really.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
You talk about the regular season, be wealthy and be
a real fan. You talk about the regular season or championships.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
The postseason in particular, well even some regular season.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
About that, Yeah, even the regular season NFL. I remember
going to Dodger games sitting on top. You can get
in for six hours. Now I don't want to do
I remember back in my day. Yeah, you know you
could do that, but it didn't seem that long ago
that they had special prices for people that wanted to
go and sit in the upper section. I didn't know
baseball that some names were absolutely crushing it at the

(01:45:57):
you know, pull at the box office. So I know
the Dodgers do every year. But yeah, there's really price
out the average rand, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
We'll see. It's just changed. And some sporting towns sometimes
they can come alive. I mean, you worked in Atlanta
and I lived in Atlanta at the same time. You
worked there, And I remember going to see Barry Bonds
in a Giants uniform play against the Braves and the NLDS,
and I went and walked up and bought the tickets
and they were less than twenty bucks. Hadn't been that long.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
How great is that? Do you know what parking was
at the at the Stanley Cup game tonight? No, seventy
five dollars. Now last year it was one hundred dollars,
and they made us think about it, so they lowered
twenty five dollars. That's still a lot of money to
hold the fans. I mean you're paying a lot for
the tickets and the seventy five on top the go
I mean it becomes it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
You asked me earlier, where am I going on vacation? Well,
if I'm going to a championship game, no way, got
any kind that's literally the vocation.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
Yeah, yeah, Well you can't affortification and they get tickets
to you know, you got to pick one or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Be close enough to be able to drive right exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
Because otherwise you want to save the airfare. I feel
bad for the average fans just to even go to
a regular game. It cost you an arm and a leg.
NBA game, NHL game, any games like that. It costs
you a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Let's go to Disaga, have a film. He'll have some
information here. He could he could be I could be wrong,
but he'll probably open up talking about this issue.

Speaker 5 (01:47:22):
I can recall when I was in school and the
Olympics were in Los Angeles in the eighties. My friend
and I went to the Rose Bowl. Did not have
tickets to see Brazil play that night. Literally walked up,
paid cash ten to fifteen bucks and sat behind the goal.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
Who I was a security guard soccer at the Olympic.
Soccer at the Olympics. That's what would Peter don't play soccer.
That's impressive, Peter, You.

Speaker 5 (01:47:44):
Were off right, Yes, he ran the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Yeah, I was. I applied for one of those uh
you know, security jobs, and they said you want a gun.
I'm like, nah, I don't think so. I'm gonna I'm
gonna pass a soccer Carnie, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:47:59):
It was the eighties days.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Oh. They made me take a test, and on the test,
I remember it says, when you get mad, do you
feel like killing people? I'm like, oh, jeez, what am
I getting by Zovido. I just wanted to see the
games were free. I really did want to work.

Speaker 5 (01:48:14):
Are you scared of doorknobs?

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
What kind of psychological it would say, like if you
got mad, what kind of pictures do you paint? And
stuff like that. I'm like, what the heck? I don't
they Yeah, it would be what I was.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
I don't paint any pictures.

Speaker 5 (01:48:26):
By the way, the Brazil tickets this month are one
hundred to five hundred dollars when they play at the
Rams Stadium in this Copo America tournament that's coming up.
But I can recall the price that you mentioned when
the Dodgers finally got back to the World Series twenty seventeen.
The tickets in the upper corners about equal with the
foul poles way down there, with eight hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Woo.

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
The games at Dallas for the NBA Finals next week
start at eight hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
This is on the official site. I won't mention their
name because they're taking they'll probably get a feed just
from me mentioning it, but it's it's pretty pricey. Dallas
is going to host games three and four the NBA
Finals on Wednesday, and Friday of next week Sunday night
at Boston. It's Game two, and the Celtics, of course,
took the opener at home, led by twenty nine in
the first half, won at by eighteen. The Celtics in

(01:49:14):
the regular season at home went thirty seven and four.
And you mentioned Christaps Porzingis of Boston. He had been
out ten games out since late April with the straying calf,
and in Game one had twenty points off the bench,
most of that in the blowout first half. WNBA at
Connecticut today, a team that was nine to oh lost
at home to New York eighty two to seventy five
New York ten and two. Connecticut's going to be hosting

(01:49:34):
Indiana on Monday. Atlanta one at Chicago eighty nine eighty
rookie Angel rees in the loss thirteen points, thirteen rebounds,
five steals. Four games in the league tomorrow, including zero
to eleven Washington at New York. Stanley Cup Final Game
one was at Florida tonight three nothing Panthers over Edmonton.
Game two is Monday at Florida. A Canadian team has

(01:49:55):
not won the Stanley Cup since nineteen ninety three. Just
for the record. And by the way, it's the New
York Rangers were eliminated last weekend. This is the ninth
straight season that an original six NHL team is not
going to be winning the Cup. Number one AGAs Fiantek
won the French Open again, her fourth in five years,
and this took sixty eight minutes the final sixty two
six ' one. She beat number twelve seed Jasmine Paolini

(01:50:19):
of Italy, aged twenty eight, five foot four Siatech from
Poland just turned twenty three, and she's already won a
US Open as well, so this was her fifth career
Grand Slam title. Already, in the second round of this tournament,
she had overcome a match point against her to beat
Naomi Osaka. She won her fourth rounder six love, six love,
a forty minute match in the Semis Fiontic beat American

(01:50:41):
Coco Goff, who is in tomorrow's women's doubles final playing
against Paullini's team. Carlos Alcarez plays the men's singles final
tomorrow against number four Alexander Zverev. And if you haven't heard,
maybe we have one more year of NBA on TNT,
but tn Sports will TNT Sports will reportedly get the
French Open rights for ten years start next year. At
college Baseball Super Regionals, advancing North Carolina, Florida State, and Virginia.

(01:51:07):
Evansville won at number one Tennessee ten to eight to
force a game three of their weekend series tomorrow. Scottie
Scheffler leads the Memorial by four strokes. Colin Morricaw was
tied for second place. John Rohm withdrew from the live
golf event in Houston due to a foot infection. The
US Open is next week to Major League Baseball. The
Phillies playing in London this weekend and beat the Mets

(01:51:27):
today seven to two. The winning pitcher, Ranger Suarez, is
ten to one with an ERA of one point eight
one so far. West Ham United Stadium in London was
reconfigured for Major League Baseball this weekend. Pittsburgh shout out
Minnesota for nothing. That game was scoreless in the seventh
Minnesota's lost five in a row. Toronto has seven to
nothing win at Oakland attendance nine thousand. Toronto's winning pitcher

(01:51:50):
Kevin Gosman a complete game, ten strikeouts the White Sox
six to one over Boston. They'd just beaten the Red
Sox last night to end a fourteen game losing streak
since Natty One. At seventh in a row. Baltimore and
Cleveland each one again, Padres thirteen to one over Arizona.
Houston took the late game six to one at the Angels.
Hunter Brown, the Houston starting pitcher, was one in five

(01:52:12):
with an ERA over six, but against the Angels he
threw six score listening seven storkouts. Jord On Alvarez three hits,
including a homer in the win and the game on
Fox TV tonight from Yankee Stadium, Dodgers over New York
eleven to three, t Oscar Hernandez two homers, including a
Grand Slam, Aaron Judge two homers and the loss. He
has twenty three so this weekend. So far, Judge is

(01:52:33):
four for seven at the plate. The rest of his
team is batting one thirty three eleven of eighty three
at the plate. They are missing Juan Soto out of
the lineup again with the sore forearm. MRI showed inflammation
and one other note I must mention. Arkansas Women's Track
and Field takes the NCAAA title the Outdoor Championships at
Famed Hayward Field and Eugene, Oregon. The sixteen hundred meter

(01:52:56):
relay team clinched the title with a collegiate record time.
They edged Florida in the team standings. They also won
the NCAA Indoors in March. But how about this and
the four hundred meters today? First place runner from Arkansas,
second place from Arkansas, third place from Arkansas, fourth place
was from Arkansas. First time that the same program had

(01:53:19):
the top four finishers in the same event, and this
was at the national finals, four from the same school.

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
Well, I saw a little of the highlights of that too.
The Mississippi State team won their first four by one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
So when you finished fourth, did they kick you off
the team? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:53:36):
What are you? Can't even mendle? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Loser?

Speaker 6 (01:53:42):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Thank you, Steve. I hear Arnie has given you tomorrow
night off.

Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
Yeah right, good?

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Not giving him tomorrow night off? Yes for it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:50):
Every night off, Arnie for those who aren't with us
on a weekly basis, And see what you're missing for
those who aren't with us. Arnie is under the illusional
impression that he carries weight or power in these hallways.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
I've heard carries plenty of weight.

Speaker 6 (01:54:06):
Well, right, we're at the direg dot com studios.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Yeah, if you finish fourth and all from the same university,
everybody else has got a medal. Like, are you happy
when you're back on the bus after that? Like, I
finished fourth, but.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
I'm going to transfer. I think I'm gonna go to
another school and run somewhere else where I can win
be number one.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
That just seems like it seems like it should be
something you're proud of. But I don't think it could be.
I think it'd be too hard. It's like, hey, cool man,
you finished fourth, and then the whole bus is kind
of afraid to have conversation with you on the way back.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
That would be talk about jealousy about the three that
finished the head Uh exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
So we'll come back, we will predict Game two of
the NBA Finals, and we'll we'll do some other things
as well. We I was waiting to see, like the
Dan Hurley story is going to break right before we
go off the keeping it's gonna happen, and where you
find she's on alternative stuff Like keep waiting. I don't
know why I keep expecting this to happen right now,

(01:55:18):
I could see it happening. I mean, the story came
out before game one. I could usually see the decision
coming out game too, But I kind of expect Monday
morning to wake up and that's probably he's gonna stay
at Connecticut or whatever's happened. But I don't know. Maybe
maybe we'll have breaking news when we come back. I
would not I would not stay tuned for that purpose,
but crazier things have happened in this exactly. We'll be

(01:55:41):
back after this on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in
Fox Sports Saturdays from the tire rack dot Com studios.
Where was Bernie on vacation?

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
Arnie Bernie, I'm got sure to remember. Yeah, I don't
know where he was overseas. Oh yeah, I think you
went to Paris. That's where he was Paris.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
He's back tonight, right, he was back last week, but
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
He's still He's London. Yeah, I knew he was close London.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
London might be my favorite place I've ever visited. Back
in ninety four when I was in high school. Wow,
how cool was I My marching band performed at the
World Parade in ninety four in London my high school.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
That must have been fun.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
It was. It was great. It is a great scuse
to tick that trip, no question about it. It was
cool to be part of that world parade. And London's
just big Ben's the most impressive thing I've ever seen
in person outside of my wife.

Speaker 3 (01:56:40):
There you go. You got that in there quick.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
Right, by the way, that's a big Ben. The clock,
not the quarterback, right exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
I figured that out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
All right. So Game two, I don't think it's gonna
be anywhere near as much of a blowout. I expect
a much more competitive game. I sure hope so, because
the first one was not a great watch. Six and
a half point favorite I think is Boston the last
time I looked, I read a good piece. If you
have the athletic check out John Hollingers kind of break
down a Game one and basically one of the big

(01:57:10):
problems for Dallas is usually Lucer and Kyrie, the defense
will send an extra guy and double them up, which
freezed somebody up for a shot. Boston didn't do it.
Boston stayed one on one and they still couldn't beat
the Boston defense, and there was nowhere to go with
the basketball, and that created a big time problem. I

(01:57:30):
don't know if that shifts, but it shows how good
and how fundamentally solid the Celtics are on both sides
of the ball. It's going to be a big time
challenge for Dallas to win. But again, I think I
almost would rather lose the way they lost in Game
one than just have to go all out and lose
in Game one. Like at least they kind of knew

(01:57:50):
by the time the fourth quarter came out, when they
were down twenty two or whatever it was, you know,
this isn't our night. We're gonna go ahead and pack
this one in and we'll come back in Game two
a little bit more rest. They'd have to go quite
as hard. That may benefit them in Game two.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
Celtics six and a half over under two fourteen and
a half. I feel the same way about Game two
as I felt the game like Game one, But I
was wrong about Game one. I said, even if it's
they lose, they're gonna keep it within six and a half.
I feel it's going to be a close game. Celtic's
gonna have to go one out. I could see it,
you know, being like a one o eight, one o
seven games, some type of effect like that. Didn't expect

(01:58:26):
the Mavericks to put up sub ninety or what was
eighty six or whatever it was, So I was surprised
about that. Don't think that's going to happen again. I'll
go with the same prediction. I think it's gonna be
a close game. If Boston does win, it won't be
by more than six and a half. Mavericks could pull
the upset. I could see it one or two point game,

(01:58:46):
like a one o seven, one oh six, and maybe
the MAVs getting the upset in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
I mean, I think that that's very possible. I I
mean I picked the MAVs to win it in seven
when we actually predicted it last Sunday when we were
doing the show, and I think you picked the MAVs
in six.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
Yeah, I said to ma six, that's not looking too
good right now.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
I was going more hard overhead. I felt like like
fundamentally Boston's a better basketball team, but it just seemed
like a buzzsaw right now for Dallas. If they go
down oh two, they're not coming back. I feel like
they almost have to win this.

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
Game so quick on that Let's not be by the way.
If they do go down oh two, I'd be willing
to bet the other side and see if the MAVs
get back and get back, you probably get some good
odds at that point. Being down oh two, especially with
you have two games back home, I'm not so sure
we should give on a give up on them that much.
If they do go down oh two.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
It depends on It depends on how they lose game two. Also,
if they lose game two the way they lost game one,
then that seems like a matchup situation they can't fix.
If Porzengis comes back down to Earth, then they lose
a close game, then you could start to look at
it and say, okay, let's see what happens to Dallas,
because technically the old cliche about a series not starting

(02:00:01):
until you get a road team winning would still be there.
But if it plays out the same way and Porzingis
has twelve to twenty points again and they're just unable
to get anything done and the efficiency rating is down
and the shots are still not falling, yes more shots
will fall. But the role players in game one only

(02:00:23):
had thirty three points by the before it became garbage time, right,
and I think fourteen of those were PJ.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
Washington you need to make sure, by the way, if
Porzingis doesn't have a good game, that Tatum and Brown
doesn't pick up for those lost points. Next thing you know,
Tatum's got thirty three, Brown's got twenty seven, and you're
back in that same hole because they've picked up the
pace for war Porzgis wasn't able to help you in
game number two.

Speaker 2 (02:00:46):
I think another key is just Kyrie's got to be
more Kyrie. He's got to be the Kyrie we've already seen. Absolutely,
I do expect a better game. I hope it would
be because the first one again not a great entertainment product.
So hopefully we'll get that on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (02:00:58):
All right, Arnie, always my friend, enjoy the game you
are playing.

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
You and plank tomorrow. Bernie coming up next. He'll have
plenty more I'm sure on game two from all different angles.
I'll be listening. I hope you will too. Tores will
be back with me next week for the crew for Arnie.
I'm Jay Martin. We'll see you next week. I'm Fox
Sports Radio.

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