Mark Willard and Ephraim Salaam react to the ongoing NBA Finals Game 2 between the Mavericks and the Celtics. Mark and Ephraim also go more in depth on Caitlin Clark being left off the Olympics roster for this year's national run. Plus, the guys talk more about Jaylen Brown's impact over Jayson Tatum, what to make of the whole Dan Hurley decision craze, and so much more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, first and foremost, watch party, Ephram and Willard is
back on a Sunday night, ladies and gentlemen. The second
NBA game that has happened in the last three months.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It feels like is about to tip off and we're
going to be all over it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Game two between the Celtics and the Mavericks is upon us.
But of course that's not what the world's talking about today. Also, Ephraim,
for what feels like the fourth or fifth weekend in
a row, we sit down on a Sunday night and
the world is again talking about Caitlin Clark. So, first
and foremost, good evening to you.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
My brother. How are we doing? I'm good man. How
you doing? I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And I feel like this is maybe the most relatable
thing we could say about this is every single person
listening to our voices is, at one time or another,
I would think, worked for a company, and often as
an employee, you feel like your company is faced with
this conundrum, do we do the right thing or do
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we do the financial companies pick the financial thing, And
this one's interesting to me. I do have an opinion,
but this is one of those where I do see
both sides. Caitlin Clark is not on team USA if that's.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The wrong financial thing to do.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I don't think there's anybody in the world who would
argue that the women's five on five Olympic basketball tournament
would have a lot more attention if Caitlyn Clark were
on the team. However, it's not the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And it's not just.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Because there are twelve veterans who are better and she
wasn't at the Olympic trials and all of those things.
It's more so I always look at the Olympics. It's
hard to do this in basketball, but the Olympics are
something that you just flat out qualify for. Like if
we're in track and field, if you jumped the highest,
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you on the team. I don't care what your name is.
And if you don't jump the highest, you're not on
the team. So this one's interesting to me. I don't
have it because it's the Olympics. I don't have an
issue with her not being on this team. By the
same token, I think we could all admit would have
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been better for the Olympics if she was.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, it would have been, but you know, there's a
lot there's some people out here there like appalled and like,
how could they not put her on the Well, they're
in terms of best players available, would she be one
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of the best players? I remember when the Dream Team
went and Shaq wasn't on it. Shaq was coming out
of college and Shaq wasn't on the the Dream Team.
He was the first pick in the draft and all
that Christian Layner made it.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Kristen Lightner was exactly because he was still in college.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Right, So, I mean they both come out right like,
but they picked Christian Layightner over Shaquille O'Neill, which seemed
weird to everyone, But okay, it's not one of those
situations where I think they were like, oh, we're not
gonna do this, We're not gonna have Kitland on the
team now. I just think there were better options to
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fill out a limited roster. I think this is probably
the best thing that could happen for Caitlyn Clark because
although the WNBA didn't see it wise to give her
an opportunity to ease her way into the w NBA,
they gave them the most luc ludicrous schedule yep. I
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mean they played eleven games before most teams played seven eight.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, seven or eight right, right? I wonder how many
people have noticed that?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
No, not, not a lot of people, because a lot
of people aren't paying attention. They're just listening to the
looking at the highlights and hearing the sound bites and
and and and the clips, but they're not really paying
attention to what's happening. You're forcing a rookie to hit
a wall in the first quarter of the season by
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giving them eleven games. I believe they had five or
six of them on the road with minimal practice if
any in between.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So uh yeah, there. This should be.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
In my opinion, a great opportunity because they're gonna play
for about another month and they're gonna stop down. That
stop down is going to give her an opportunity to heal,
to to work, to practice, to get herself in better
physical shape in terms of the rigors of the w
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n b A, because she's had a sample size of
what it's like, and she should be able to come
off of that break when others are out still playing
basketball more revitalized and refreshed and ready to attack the
second half of the season. So for me, I think
it's great for her. For the WNBA and marketing wise
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not so much. But look, I can't fought them for
picking a stronger roster.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
To attack the world. Now.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
We do have the best basketball women's basketball players on
the planet Earth, so for them in the Olympics, they
should be steamrolling people.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Our guys. On the other hand, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well playing field done, like even out over the last decade.
On that front, I think everything you just said is
pretty spot on. This is probably the best thing for Caitlyn.
My god, this whole thing has just gotten It's gotten
too hot. He has gotten way too hot. It's too
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much at a certain point, and I don't think there's
any way to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
But there are so many people that are now sort
of branding themselves as fans of Caitlyn Clark. Forget being
fans of women's basketball or even basketball, just fans of
Caitlyn Clark. And I wonder how many of them realize,
Like you start to tension and pressure on one person,
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there's a major drawback to the person that you're saying
you're a fan of. It just becomes too much. What
happens from I know you're a Hollywood person.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
What happen?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
You know what I mean by that, But a lot
of people won't know what that means. Okay, a certain
connotation that goes with Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I don't mean you've got flowing hair in a convertible.
I like you, Okay, Entertainment industry, well beyond sports.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I'm in there, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And so you know this, what happens Eight times out
of ten when you get a child acting star before
the age of fifteen, what usually happens.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's not good. I could take you They've done on
drugs by eighteen. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And so I'm starting to feel this for Caitlin where
it's like, look, this is this has become there has
nothing to do with basketball anymore. Every time she plays,
we're having social conversations, fairness conversations, race conversations. Like I said,
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we're not gonna put the toothbases back in the tube.
I'm starting to get concerned for whether or not this
young lady is even going to have an opportunity to
just go be a baller. And so for from this
perspective for the Olympics, You're probably right it's probably good
for her to just set this one out.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, I think it'll It'll give people time to decompress
and the fresh and the newness of you know, the
entity that is Caitlin Clark. You know, it'll it'll die
down a little bit. I hope viewers for the w
n B A uh, don't die down. She's already missed
a game from injury. But it's tough, man, professional sports
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are you know, most people don't have, you know, context
of how different it is from the pros to college.
I mean case in point, remember Drew Timmy very well,
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he was a two time college player of the Year.
I can tell you from Kazaga, good basketball team, good
basketball player.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, he didn't get drafted. Right.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
You look at Zach Edie, who's the two time basketball
you know, player of the year in college. He most
likely won't be a lottery pick, right, So he was like, well,
why he dominated college? Yeah, because it's different when you
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get to the pros. As good as Steph was in college,
when he got to the pros, it took a minute.
It took more than a minute. And that's lost on
a lot of people because we're creatures of the moment.
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First of all, they didn't know if Steph was going
to be able to even play. He had severe ankle
issues early on in his career. And you know this
as a Bay Area guy, like it was just like, oh,
I mean, we ever get this guy help? So we
just are we just have the stepf his moments as
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of recent the last ten years. Like, oh man, but
it took some time. It takes players times into to
unfairly dump all of this stuff on Kaitlyn Clark like
she's coming to save a league that was already going
for twenty five plus years. That's not fair to the
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players in the league, as not fair to Kaitlyn Clark.
She just wants to play basketball and get paid for it,
well paid less for.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It, right right, She's getting paid for it on all
the places except for the WNBA. Yes, but yes, I'm
with you. I think we knew that this was going
to be a big deal. I think she knew it.
I think she's a celebrity and she was prepared for
some of it. But all of this, it's it is
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borderline too much for any one person right now.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
The extension of that, though, is the Olympics themselves, like
I do. Here's the funny side of it. To me,
I think anything that has like the words international or
federation in them, like I automatically don't.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Trust the organization. I'm like, that's corrupt.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, FIFA, I'm pretty sure one of the f
stands for federation.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I don't even know. But I'm like, you're crooked. I
know you're crooked.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
And I feel that way about Olympic committees globally because
we've watched all of the stuff that's going on behind
the scenes.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
For you, this is one where you'd be like, God,
if you really had the dollar signs in mind, of
course you would have stuck Caitlin Clark on the team.
But they didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So this is one of those where I'm like, hey,
good job, committee, federation, international organization.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Think I'm abob whatever you want to call yourself. Good job.
You probably did this the right way.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's not the best financial thing, it's not gonna put
the most eyes on the Olympics, but but it's probably
the right thing to do.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
It is the right thing to do because it's going
to benefit her the player. Right, She's not the w
n b A. She's a player on the Indiana fever
and this is going to benefit her, which I think
is amazing because I'm pulling for I think we all
are pulling for Calyn Clark, just like I'm pulling for
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Angel Reese and the other young women who came into UH,
into this league and gino UH what is Rima had
very profound things to say and if anyone is an
authority on UH and see the play Women's basketball, women
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basketball in general, he's one of the forefront in terms
of authorities to speak on that issue. He has some
very poignant things to say about Kaitlin Clark and the WNBA.
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All Right with Apram salam Mark Weather look how adorable
our points are. I'll get to the bety over thing
here in a second, but I mean we just sat
here and talked for fifteen minutes about how leaving Caitlin
Clark off Team US.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
But I mean, when else do we do that in sports?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'd argue it's incredibly rare, and our behavior suggests that
we don't care that the wrong thing is done. Usually
the best example is the sport you played, no question
about that. Now interesting here because from artificial turf to.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Wednesday night football.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
On Christmas Day, like all of these things, even let's
take Jahn Morant and Draymond Green, if the league really
did there were personal problems and counseling need that handled
those situations differently as well. Anybody who's ever been to
counseling knows three weeks doesn't do it. You're not like
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I spoke to someone three times. I'm fixed that that's
not how it works. So the almighty dollar is always
center focus. And so we just sat here for fifteen
minutes talking about how the Olympic Committee and Team USA
and this is the right thing to do for the
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players who earn their way. It's the right thing to
do for Caitlyn Clark, it's better for her career. What's
the comp We don't do this in any other part
of sport, and.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Our behavior as fans suggest we don't give a rip. No.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I look, it's we talk about it because it's important
to talk about It's important to understand, you know, in
a society where everyone has a voice, and that you
know most voices go in all kinds of different directions
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to speak to things that you know may not make
sense to others, it makes sense to us, and try
to put in perspective and add some context to it.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Right, Like.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I think, I really literally think that they've definitely done
a disservice to Caitlyn and her not making the team
isn't a slight it's not they're taking the best, but
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twelve thirteen players that they have to Paris to compete
for a gold medal, Caitlyn will have plenty of time
to represent Team USA in the Olympics, and so I
think that was the right move. Whether you know, some
may agree or disagree with that. I'm sure many disagree,
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but the fact of the matter is it's it'll be
it's going to benefit her, it should benefit.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Her, right you get what I'm saying, though, And there's
two things in front of us, and one is considered
the right thing to do and the other one.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Money. We know on which one league's pick.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yes, traditionally, traditionally it's the money. Yeah, it's always the money.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And that's not what happened here.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And I don't even know all the intricacies of what
kind of dollar figure this would mean for the w NBA.
She played in the Olympics, but the profile would grow
even more, There's no question about that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It's but look, it's going to grow. It's going to
be there.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
What they need Caitlin Clark to do is be great
for it to grow, going and playing in the Olympics.
Would she continue, would she be great?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Or would she not get the minutes?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I brought up Christian Layner because Christian just carried bags
to the bus, you know what I mean, Like it
was just he carried the bags. Nobody was looking for
Christian Lightner to lead us to the right and and
that shouldn't be the expectation if she was on the team,
for her to lead us to gold. Now you're really
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spitting in the face of the veteran players and the
players who made that team and who make that team
what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
In her most recent game, she did she did go
out there and score thirty points.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, I mean she's a She is the thirteenth leading
scorer in the w NBA. Yeah, what if she was
the ninth? Could she made? Could she have made the team? Then?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
She's also had a one for ten game with three points,
had eight points and nine points, and leads the league
in turnovers. So let's just be realistic about our expectations
of what she's supposed to do her rookie year. And
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I think we have Geno's comments teed up. I'd love
to help with our perspective and have one of the
greats talk about it.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I think you and I both know the landscape that
we live in today, both sports wise and nonsports wise.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Right, we are in.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
A red blue and if you're red, you can't agree
with blue, and if you're blue, you can't agree with red.
Whereas most things are in the middle. If you're a
college player and you're a great college player, like Caitlin was,
the delusional fan base that follows her disrespected the WNBA players,
saying she's going to go in that league and.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Tear it apart.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
There were actually odds like she's third or fourth em
betting odds of being MVP at a WNBA. These people are
so disrespectful and so unknowledgeable and so stupid that it
gives women's basketball a bad name.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Okay, so the kid was set up for failure.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Right from the beginning. So if you're a WNBA player,
and I believe me, I've coached the best and I've
pissed them off a lot, and they let me know
about it, but they were tremendously disrespected.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Okay, why that one grab your attention.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Because he's speaking, he's speaking from the inside, someone who's
done it, coached the greatest players on the planet Earth
for a long time, gold medals, championships, the whole nine yards,
all of it. And so he understands, number one, what
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it takes to make it to the league, to stay
in the league, and to be success in the league.
He also knows how talented and how hard those young
ladies have been working in this league for decades upon
decades before Caitlyn was even born. And so to heep,
and he's talking about their fan base because the fan
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base was literally like, oh, she's the savior. She's going
to do this and that for the WNBA. She and
it just wasn't realistic. So the more people shout that,
the more people listen, the more people believe it. And
then you start tuning into the games, and then you'll
be like, oh my god, they fouled her, Oh my god,
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they hate her. Oh what's happening here? So it all
becomes connected and all starts to spiral, and he's speaking
to a larger point. Hey, relax, Let this young lady
go play basketball, be the best player she can be
by In no means did he or she or anybody
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who knows the sport could imagine Caitlin Clark coming in
and being the MVP of the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Like, what, well, I have a devil's advocate response in
just a moment.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
But you use those three letters MVP, And I went, oh,
you mean Steve to.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Say, yes, Steve MVP. Okay, that's what That's what I
thought you were talking about.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Good Emejeing, gentlemen, We've got actual scoring for the back
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Boston first nine minutes of the game fifteen points from
the starting guards Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving. Meanwhile, Boston
from three point ranges for seven. Celtics are at home
(23:55):
tonight for Game two. They won Game one at home
by eighteen points, led by twenty nine in the first half.
Boston and that opener had nine block shots. Dallas had
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Boston regular season at home had a record of thirty
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Dallas is hosting games three and four of the series
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Stanley Cup Game two is tomorrow night at Florida. Carlos
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of three weekend series. Number one Tennessee at home leads
Evansville in the bottom of the fourth five to one
Florida in thirteen innings eliminated Clemson eleven to ten. Tight
end Darren Waller told the Giants he is retiring. We've
got baseball of Dodgers at Yankees for the weekend, finishing
up the series. Tonight, the Dodgers have tied it. It's
two to two. In the bottom of the fifth. Tyler
(25:00):
Glass now is on the mound for La. Amazingly, the
Dodger offense had not scored a run with him on
the mound in his past thirty four innings on the
hill five starts plus today until Mookie Betts just hit
a tying two run double in the top of the fifth. Earlier,
Aaron Judge with an RBI double for the Yankees. Judge,
(25:21):
by the way, not doing too badly this year. Unfortunately,
he is missing Luis Soto again, out of the starting
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The sore forearm. The MRI show just inflammation. Still, Judge
has fifty eight RBIs already. They've just ended the fifth inning.
Dodgers two, Yankees two Earlier, the Cubs won four to
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to one. Detroit's Trek Scooble is eight and one after
the Tigers beat Milwaukee ten to two in the London
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six to five, scoring three runs in the top of
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Houston closer Josh Hater with a two run homer Bottom
(26:05):
in the ninth, nine to seven. Ten innings wins for
Seattle on the road, for Toronto on the road, from
Minnesota on the road, and Boston won in ten innings
at the White Sox six to four, and finally to
the golf yet again an event and a Scotti Scheffler victory.
He led by four strokes to start the day, made
it interesting shooting a final round seventy four, but did
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take the Memorial by one over Colin Morikawa. This was
actually his highest closing round since the seventy four two
years ago at the Open Championship. But another w foro
him and another w in a big money what they
call signature event. He'd won at bay Hill and Hilton
Head as well. He won the Players Championship this year.
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He got a second green jacket at the Masters. This
guy is the first player since Tom Watson in nineteen
eighty to have won five times on the tour before
we even get to the US Open. And being a
signature event, can you guess the payout? It was equal
to a live golf event which took place in Houston
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this weekend. Four million dollars. For that means that Scottie
Scheffler this season is over the twenty four million mark
in earnings on the course.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
He set the record last year for a full season
at twenty one mil. Already, not yet mid June, he
has broken the record. As for the actual payouts farther down,
believe it or not, they were guaranteeing that every player
inside the top twenty at the Memorial was going to
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make a quarter million dollars, And in fact, a tie
for twentieth gets you about two hundred and sixty thousand
dollars at live golf. A tie for eighteenth got less
than that two thirty five. This is one Sunday where
we can actually say something about the pg Yeah, I
see you.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Guys, okay, well, and by the way, and any PGA
Tour player who thumbed their nose at Live Golf and
I understand why, but I don't think any of them
are going to give this money back.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
That is clearly in response to what.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Living is doing. Say thanks yeah, thanks Ve, oh and
thanks tyrack dot com studios. Isn't that interesting? I mean
it had become a Sunday tradition where Steve comes in
at the bottom of the hour and goes So somebody
won a PGA Tour event and they made forty seven dollars,
(28:44):
and then in a live event somebody finished in eighty
eighth place and they made a billion. Like that's what
it sounded like. That's what it sounds like every Sunday.
And then you you came in and.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
You're like, yeah, pretty even three occurve. And by the way,
this is what you guys just reference. This is what
competition does. This is why you have more with more
than one gas station in your neighborhood. This is why
you have more than one restaurant. Is competition raises the bar.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, it does monopolize it. So now they got to
really step up and they pay those purses and appearance fees,
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Man, you got to change it up.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
We can get back to Gino Orima here in just
a few, but I do want to reference at least
for a minute.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
And look, there's a.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Long way to go, and I could be right and
I could be wrong, but I had a big feeling
about the.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Over in tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Reason being so in game one, and this is a
very simplistic way to bet, but I'm a pretty simplistic better.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Game one, the total was one.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Hundred and ninety six points, right, one oh seven to
eighty nine, one hundred and ninety six points, and Luca
and Kyrie were terrible, and you figure that's not going
to continue. So maybe this is just a response to
people going, well, that's not going to happen again. But
the over under in tonight's game was two fifteen I'm
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like points higher than what the total was in game one.
And when I see a discrepancy like that from I
lean into it. I go, you're telling me that you're
begging me to take the under, So I'm taking the over.
And then of course Luca came out. Luca's got like,
(30:35):
I don't know, thirteen to fifteen points already in this
game and we're still in the in the first quarter
with a minute a.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Half to go.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean you knew more points were going to
be scored, you would guess that Kyrie and Luca weren't
going to come out and have that, especially Kyrie have
that type of game that he had it.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
And so.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
It's a safe bet in a world of threes, both
of these teams put up an extreme amount of threes.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
That you take the over in that in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, that said, Boston's not hitting any of them yet, No,
but it'll it'll happen.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It'll happen.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Not tracking toward what we would call a high scoring
game yet, minute and a half to go, first quarter,
twenty two to twenty Dallas leads. But yes, I do
think that this is going to be a very different
looking game and they're going to boogie here pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I think we have some things to say about Luka Dancic,
even just watching him play in this game, that we
want to discuss. We'll do that at the top of
the hour. Coming up next, let's circle back to your
commentary on Gino Oriema's commentary because I've got a little
bit again Devil's Advocate response to what both he said
(31:57):
and what you said about he said. So that is
all coming up next. With E from Salam, Mark Willard.
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That is E from Salam. I'm Mark Willard.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, haven't our watch party checking it out? Game two
NBA Finals about to head into the second quarter here shortly,
much tighter game, much more watchable game.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
We'll be referencing it a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
But I do want to go back to where you
took the Caitlin Clark conversation based off of Gino Arima's comments,
and again this is all based on if you're just
joining us, so you've been kind of in a fog
this weekend. Caitlin Clark has left off the team USA
Olympic roster. The world is not going to take a
(33:02):
deep dive on this and fully understand why. They're just
going to go crazy. And there's been some outrage and
commentary with regard to her being left off, which was
actually not a huge surprise to those who were following along.
But anyway, here's Gino's comment about the whole Caitlyn Clark situation.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
I think you and I both know the landscape that
we live in today, both sports wise and nonsports wise. Right,
we are in a red blue and if you're red,
you can't agree with blue, and if you're blue, you
can't agree with red, Whereas most things are in the middle.
If you're a college player, and you're a great college player,
like Caitlyn was, the delusional fan base that follows her
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disrespected the WNBA players by saying she's going to go
in that league and tear it apart. There were actually
odds like she's third or fourth embedding odds of being
MVP to WNBA. These people are so disrespect and so
unknowledgeable and so stupid that it gives women's basketball a
bad name. Okay, so the kid was set up for failure.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Right from the beginning.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
So if you're a WNBA player, and I believe me,
I've coached the best and I've pissed them off a lot,
and they let me know about it, but they were
tremendously disrespect.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, now, only disagree from with anything that he just said.
What I can say, though, is sometimes that's just the
way the world works like Geno's essentially saying he's calling
on fans that are brand new to women's basketball and
calling them stupid, and I would be like, of course
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they are, Geno, they just got here. And in the
world of entertainment, I don't think it usually works very
well for the entertainer to welcome the audience in by
going you better be knowledgeable about how we're going to
entertain you, or else we would like to reject you
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and eject you out from our fraternity. Like you know
what I mean, Like, there's no there's no way to
concoct the way that an audience reacts to an entertainment.
The world was not disrespectful to the w NBA establishment.
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I hate to break into, Geno. There was no WNBA establishment.
This is the establishment of the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
No, no understand me. For a lot For a lot
of people, this is their first day in school. Okay,
for some people.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Can't tell them to understand math when they just sat
down at kindergarten on the first day.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yeah, but the thing you can't do is then talk
about math like you've been watching our knowing math and
understanding math this whole time, and.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
That it's sports worth. But that's a problem though, Like, but.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
That's like they're talking about it, like on CNN and
on like it's just like wait what, like well, no,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
It's betting on m VP odds on.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
All the things that have happened, the hard fouls and
look at this screen? Is this too much? And outside
of the one by Kennedy, uh you know, which was
bush yep yep.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
You know they want to point out every time she's,
oh my god, look at the screen they set on her.
Don't you can't do that. It's it's like going into
that messame math class, not having it, not taking math prior,
and be like, well, why is the decimal there? I mean,
I can't believe they put adjucimal after the third digchit
like this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Okay, but you from it's sports and it's barbershop. It's
never like I hate to do this because we do this.
It's never been smart of the board. It's I'm sorry,
every barber shop in America. I hate to tell you.
It's not smart. It's not it's it's it's passionate. It's awesome,
(37:14):
but I ain't going.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
There to be like, tell me what's actually going on.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I'm going there because it's funny and it's fun and
people are denigrating one another, hopefully in a week wink wink,
kind of a way, the way friends are with one another.
It's not supposed to be like all correct, it's sports.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
It's sports. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, you mean okay, That's all I'm getting now here,
He's like, you, do you know what I mean? Like,
there is I think a fair pushback if you want
to say, if you want to be from the side
and go look, w NBA has been going on for years,
don't disrespect these players. There is again to that yang
to say, these people have never been here for and
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you would like them to stay, so please don't thumb
your nose at their uneducated arrival.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
That's all I'm getting, Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I look and do you know, yeah, we can fight
about it. And it sounds like you want to fight
a little basing your voice. It's passionate. I just think,
you know, just doing a disservice to to the to
the women who built the w n b A and
(38:33):
the ones who are currently keeping it going. And he
said also he said, uh, I think it was him
or somebody you know, had mentioned that. You know, everybody
has said like, this rookie class is the savior of
(38:54):
of the w n b A, and people are like,
it's not even the best rookie class.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
What are you talking about right? Right, Well, it's not
a savior because it's not like in danger of dying, right,
it's going to be there. It certainly could take it
to a new level, though.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
You hop if everybody you know does what they're supposed
to do and elevates their team. Indiana Fever just happened
to be a really bad team, and Caitlin scored thirty
against a team that was worse than them, which was
hard to do, and they pulled out a two point
victory against the team it was oh and eleven.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
So you get this. You get this again, mister Hollywood
over here.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
You get this.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
The audience likes what the audience likes, and you don't.
You're not I'm not gonna say you don't get you
You're not smart to tell them they're supposed to like
it a different way.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
That's true. Consume it the way you wish exactly. Just
talk about it. If it's wrong, well.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Consume it. But when you go home, no talking, no talking,
be quiet, don't don't. Don't tell your friends. That's all
I'm getting at. Man, Like I get it. If I
had been in the wa if I was Diana Tarazzi,
this whole thing would tick me the hell off for sure.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
That's like if you well, we'll talk about it on
the top. I was gonna get into a whole nother soliloquy,
but we'll do it next hour.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Okay, we'll do it next hour. We also need to
talk about Luka Doncic.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I know a lot of people that have just kind
of had it up to here with the he is
the least watchable star.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
In the NBA. Uh, we can get into that.
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think there's more to say, obviously on the Caitlin Clark
situation from I know you weren't done.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
We'll get back to it in a sec.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I do want to ask you about the experience of
watching Luka Doncic's play basketball.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
What are your when I say that, What are your
immediate thoughts in terms of the experience of watching it?
Speaker 4 (41:31):
I think of a showman, right, So if okay, someone
where it'll be like, hey, have you ever seen Luca play?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
It? Would you know? It would.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Initially have me thinking like, oh, this is mussy TV, right,
Like when someone came up to me was like, yo,
have you ever seen Magic Johnson play?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Mm hmm?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Or have you seen this kid named Kobe in high school?
Or this kid named Lebron? Have you ever seen this
kid named Lebron in high school? Or any of the greats.
So when you say have you ever seen Luca play?
I'm thinking, oh, okay, I must tune in for this.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
So are you now?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I want to make sure I'm understanding you correct. You're
putting that name on that level.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
I think that name could get to that level. I
mean it is clear just watching him oversea, watching him
play overseas as a seventeen year old. Eighteen year old kid.
You were like, oh, oh he's Oh, this is different.
This is a kid out here destroying men. I'm talking
about bodying them. But like back then, he was even dunking,
(42:48):
he was even Duncan over there. But his body control
is very slow and very You can't speed him up right,
and that's a talent in itself, Like you can't make
him do something he doesn't want to do.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Okay, you answered that in a maybe a very Ephraim
Salaam way of answering it. And here's what I mean
by that, And this is well established on this show.
You love this game. I love it. You love this game.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And so therefore those finer points, the intricacies of basketball
are not lost on you. And I appreciate the heck
out of.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
That that maybe there are a lot more casual viewers
out there who find him difficult to watch, because it's
not because he's not good. But you know where I'm
going next. There's two things. There's two things. First of all,
the man is complaining every constantly, every play, every play.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
And then secondarily, i'd also sort of ask, you know,
while we're having a conversation about asking WNBA viewers basically
to watch the game the right way, well, does Luca
play it the right way? Because I would be less
turned off by someone who complained to the refs a lot,
(44:13):
because there are a lot of guys who complain to
the refs a lot. But I'd be less turned off
by someone who does that if that same person wasn't
also basically playing tittley winks with the defender every single
time he has the ball in order to get the
ref to be fooled. Like he is a master at.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Doing little things with the ball offensively.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Giving a forward shoulder shove and then getting his arm
in the right way.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
So that it'll get hit.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
He's a master of all of those little things, which
I find those two things put together to be very
difficult to watch sometimes, which is I can fool the ref,
but then I'm also mad at the ref all the
time when the ref gets fooled, Like it just it
feels like I'm watching a hypocritical basketball star.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
It's like a presidential debate.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Right, It's like, you can't you can't be mad at
the refs all the time when the refs are very
often being fooled in your favor.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yeah, but that's you know, that's the brand of basketball.
He grew up playing. A lot of complaining, a lot
of flopping was synonymous with overseas basketball, and so it's
you know, it's been invading the you know, the rules change.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
The rule changes have have lent to.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
The the elements of the complaining, complaining, complaining, because even
minimal cunt now they have this new thing. They they've
readjusted how they call fout. Minimal contact is a thing now.
If it's minimal contact, then it's not right. Like no
one understands or knows what that means. But you hear
him say it a lot when they're reviewing the call
(46:04):
and they don't overturn it. Minimum contact. I will tell
you one thing that Luca doesn't have, and it drives
me crazy. He has zero lateral quickness when it comes
to playing defense. So if you get him rocking one
way and come back the other way, he is done.
Reminds well, at least he actually tries. It reminds me
(46:24):
of another.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Great score, James Harden. But he didn't.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
He didn't even really try to play defense. He was
just like, I'm just gonna save it all for offense.
But yeah, the complaining and in last series, he had
a couple of games where they had really talked to
him about just focusing on the games, and he had
he had great basketball games. Right, you use less energy
focusing on complaining and crying. But it's just if I
(46:57):
was a if I was a casual fan of the NBA,
that would drive me crazy. Yes, I would be like,
come on, like, just play bro right, just play.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
It's also funny that if you're bothered by his defense, now,
what are you going to be ten years from now?
Because right stars late in their career ten two defense, Yeah,
they get well, they start they start caring less slash,
They just can't you know what I mean. Look at Lebron.
Lebron was an amazing defender, but like we're asking something. Yeah,
(47:35):
we're asking somebody at age thirty nine to still play
the way he does. You're not going to be able
to go all out both ends of the floor all
the time. I think the most forgettable thing in all
of the NBA right now is that Luca is only
twenty five years old. Yeah he looks thirty four. He
looks thirty four. He plays forty four. Yes he's he's
(48:00):
twenty five. He's twenty five years old. I mean that
is a baby.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
You built like a ups worker. Yes, he is. He's
definitely built.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Like if you showed up at your house, man, that
actually you're making me think about content right now. You
could do some things with Luca if you trust him.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
You did market him to be it could be amazing.
Oh my god, if.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
The Amazon truck pulled up at your house and Luca
got out in just a blue polo and jeans and
put something at your door and took a picture of
it with an iPad, would anybody recognize him? No?
Speaker 4 (48:47):
What the fact that he's six well, it's hard to
hide at sixty nine. I don't care what type of
wig you have on.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
He notts six nine.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
He's listed at six seven, yeah, because he doesn't want
to be Yeah, he doesn't want to be sixty nine.
Guards don't want to be bigger. It's interesting though, man.
And like Katie doesn't want to be listed at seven feet, yeah,
he's seven pete right, like he doesn't want to Anthony
Davis doesn't want to be listed at seven feet. He's
(49:21):
seven pete right, like they once you get he's like,
you know, six eleven right, right, It does there's.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
A little stigment to the basket you seven foot no.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
I tell you, though, this series is going to say
a lot in terms of the star and where the
profile goes. And I'm mainly talking about Luka Doncic and
I'm talking about I'm talking about Jason Tatum, who's only
twenty six and just turned twenty six not too long ago.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
So these guys are young stars.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
And you know, Jason's been here before and it's largely
been disappointing. Luca's profile just in being here has gotten
to be bigger, and I do know a lot of
people that are like, man, he's great, but he's also
annoying to watch play basketball. This series determines so much
on the profile of these two players because I think
(50:22):
both of them they're both a's, but I also think
they're both as far as branding across the NBA, they're
both still kind of a minus B plus guys. No
one's reaching the Steph Lebron Jannis yet kind of of
a level.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yet. I think the winner of this series might The
problem is.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
If the Celtics win, then Jalen Brown is probably going
to be the the finals MVP, Like that's what you
can't happen. That's what you don't want to happen, like
a young rising star when you're considered the face of
the team somebody else. That was the problem with Steph.
With Steph, that was the problem with Steph. That was
(51:15):
that was like, oh, well, yeah, you got the league MVP,
but you couldn't even be the finals MVP. M all right,
somebody who came off the bench and start at midway
through the season the series got the finals MVP. So
that's that's the draw that's the drawback, Like if Jalen
continues to go out, because he clearly him and Porzingis
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were clearly the MVPs of Game one.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Well and so far as they reach halftime with the
Celtics up three, the MVP tonight is Drew Holliday.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Yes, he's got seventeen.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Let's talk about Tatum coming up next, because my man
is two for ten. He's two for ten and he's
zero for three from beyond the arc and he had points.
So let's talk about it. Because I said this before
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the series, nobody's got more on the line than Jason
Tatum in this series, nobody has it. And he has
got five points after again, it didn't matter as much
when you get a big victory in game one. But yeah,
it's been underwhelming so far and that has largely been
(52:30):
the case for him in a lot of his big games.
So we can dive further into that coming up next
with e from salam Mark Whether this is Fox Sports Radio,
so it's the Tyreck dot Com Studios. We'll get back
to Caitlin Clark. I haven't even asked you about the
as the world turns with the Lakers head coaching search.
(52:52):
Good God, we'll get into all of it. But here's
one thing I've been confronted with quite a bit hosting
radio in the San Francisco Bay Area. Kyle Shanahan and
the forty nine ers get largely branded based on what
has happened in two football games. Two doesn't mean that
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they get to escape criticism. But sometimes I find it
interesting in sports, specially football, where there is no series,
so best of seven, you go play a game and
it's like you could be good all year, and then
you every time you go to the playoffs, you're good
in the playoffs, and you win this huge game, and
(53:40):
you win that huge game, and then you win this
huge game over there, and then you go to the
super Bowl. Then you're leading the whole way, and then
like an all time great quarterback rallies and beats you,
and everyone's like, choker, can't win the big One, And
you're like, well.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
What the hell were all of those other games? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (54:04):
And I know you and I have talked so much
about Kyle, So I have a hard time when people
get branded based on an incredibly small sample, especially when
that person's larger sample tells a completely different story. I
have a hard time with that sometimes. So let's talk
(54:25):
about Jason Tatum, because unfortunately for him, the sample size
is starting to not be very small. What do you
think about Jason in Big Games? I think number one,
I think he's a tremendous talent. We saw that early
on his rookie year and every year since. But in
(54:51):
order to cross over that threshold big games is where
you where that comes from?
Speaker 4 (54:59):
If not, then you just be James Harden. Are you know,
Paul George are any of the other beyond talented players
who couldn't quite get.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Over that hump? Right?
Speaker 4 (55:20):
You become extremely talented, but that's it, and then year
after year after year of that becomes your legacy in
who you are, which sucks because you think.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
Michael Jordan scored sixty three in the Garden against Bird
in the Celtics in the playoffs and lost, right right right,
Like this is young Mike, very young Mike. Yes, if
(56:04):
he wins and wins a championship, there you want to
talk about he Look, he came back from that and
still became the greatest to ever play. Imagine if he
wins right then and there, that young doing what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (56:30):
So, Jason Tatum came into the league and was phenomenal
his rookie year. Everybody was like whoa. And then make
it to the conference finals and everybody's like, oh my god.
And the next year good and good, and the Kyrie
experiment happened set him back a little bit. But he's
been that type of player for the last five years,
(56:52):
six years with no wins. So now it's like, oh, okay,
well he's a great player, right, but he's not great
enough to get us over the hump, right, Like, if
(57:13):
you have to score sixty in a game seven or
an elimination game, then that's what you do.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
That's what you do.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
And for some it look everybody's not built like that,
no matter how much talent you have. Now, when we
talk about the all time greats, these guys were affecting
the court on both sides too. It just mind you.
Jordan will lock you up and drop sixty on you.
Colby'll lock you up and drop sixty on you. So
(57:51):
just keep that in mind when we talk about being
great and you know, all of those things, like he
still has a little bit of little ways to go,
but the talent is there. Can he take that next step?
(58:13):
Can he take that next step? Can he close it
out in an elimination game? Can he go bonkers? I'm
talking about bonkers where everybody's like, oh wow, okay, well
yes he's ready, because until you do that, then you're
not ready just a good player. And it's frustrating because
we see him go bonkers at different points of the
(58:35):
year and you know, Game one's two threes, like we
need it when it counts, right, Lebron got over the
hump of the Celtics because he just went ham on
them in an elimination game, right like it was just like,
oh well, it was nothing we can do? Was it
(58:56):
was nothing? It was nothing we could we could have
done there, right, like you will your team to win
no matter what, and then Celtas have the better team.
Not a lot of willing needed to be done, been
the best team the whole time. And all the stars again.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
Yep, yep, all over the place. Everybody in their starting
five has been an All Star except for White.
Speaker 4 (59:24):
So you know, with a situation where it is either now,
people get up.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Well, I mean, look, this guy's a career fifty three
point three percent.
Speaker 4 (59:43):
From the field massacred, I mean massive massive, Yes he's
like that.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
Well, actually that's that's a efficiency field goal percentage.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
But but I overstated it there.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
He's a forty six percent all told, all shooting six per.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Half percent from three point range.
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
When he goes to the playoffs, those numbers go down,
like they go down in ways that you can feel them.
Forty six to forty four, thirty seven and a half
to thirty five. It's not overwhelming, But you're talking about
someone who, at age twenty six, has played in a
truckload of playoff games already truckload, an absolute load of
(01:00:24):
playoff games.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
What to show.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
He has played in twenty playoff series already series not
games series in his career, and so we are well
out of what I would call a small sample size.
Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
We're now in a large sample size.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
And now we're in this is who you are. Well yep, yeah,
no more sampling. If you order Jason Tatum, this is
what you're gonna get. There's no more sampling.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
So that I'm not gonna use the word choker.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I'm not gonna like it's people have not that right, right,
But he is a lesser player, Yeah, because lesser player.
Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
And man, even if they win it and someone else
other than him, is it finals, MVP the same thing.
You're in the same boat. You're in the same boat.
So you know, Jaylen Brown, I don't care nothing about that.
(01:01:30):
He like, I'm going to get mine, man.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
That's you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Like, one thing that I noticed between the two Jalen
is just he's a head down, just go kind of
a person. Tatum has openly spoken about this, and I
don't think it's helped him to be honest with you.
He's openly spoken about how I want to be remembered,
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like x y Z, I want to channel Brian. Yeah,
you got to stay away from that type of stuff.
It's all in Celtics Jersey. It's already a weird thing today.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
But when you say it out loud, it also it
puts it's not only that it puts more pressure on you.
Ephrom I don't think it's kind of like what Anthony
Edwards did this.
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
This playoff season. Oh I'm I'm Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Okay, if you are the fact that you need to
say it out loud, it's what it feels like. I
don't know these guys. It feels to me like you're
trying to convince yourself. Yeah, because the rest of us,
the rest of us don't really care what you say.
We're gonna see it. It's either gonna happen or it's not.
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And so when you start talking about it all the time,
as opposed to just doing it, it feels like insecurity.
Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
To me, you know, having a neighborhood, like don't talk
me to death. There you go, right, you ain't got
talk about it. Be a body, I mean unless your
name Steve de Sayer and then.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
All you want because when you speak, people listen the
way it is.
Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
Let's up date NBA Finals Game two, Gentlemen at one
seed Boston. The Celtics lead Dallas sixty two to fifty seven.
Jason Tatum was two of ten shooting from the floor
in the first half. Did have eight assists, but that
was his worst shooting in a first half of any
game all season. Meanwhile, Luka Donsich with twenty three points
in the first half, most in the first half of
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any Finals game since Steph Curry five years ago. Donsich
ten of fourteen shooting from the floor, now twenty five points.
As we have eight and a half minutes to go
third quarter, the Celtics lead is sixty two to fifty
nine over Dallas. It was pretty easily a Celtics win
in Game one at home. They'll be on the road
at Dallas for games three and four. That'll be Wednesday
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and Friday nights. Stanley Cup Game two is tomorrow night.
Edmonton at Florida Panthers took the opener three to nothing.
Last night, Carlos Alcarez won the French Open in five sets,
six to two in the third. At College Baseball Super Regionals,
Evansville is playing tonight at number one Tennessee. It's the
Balls twelve one in the lead. In the top of
the seventh Florida in thirteen innings eliminated Clemson eleven to ten.
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Scottie Scheffler won the Memorial, his fifth victory of the season.
The livgolf winner in Houston was Carlos Ortiz by one
stroke tight end. Darren Waller told the Giants he is retiring.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 7 (01:04:35):
We've got football on Fox TV going tonight because this
weekend is the conference finals in the UFL. Birmingham won
in a comeback yesterday thirty one eighteen against Michigan. Saint Louis,
which is getting the great attendance in this league, is
hosting San Antonio tonight in the other conference final, and
Saint Louis is trailing at home twenty two to fifteen
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to the San Antonio Bramas. It is, by the way,
next in Saint Louis, the championship game will be held.
NASCAR victory for Kyle Larson at Sonoma, the road course
to Major League Baseball. Yankees are hosting the Dodgers this
weekend and the Yanks are holding on to a five
to four lead over LA right now. The game's in
the top of the eighth. Trent Grisham a three run
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homer in the sixth to take the lead. In London,
met six five winners at Philadelphia with three runs in
the top of the ninth. Attendance was fifty five thousand
as west Ham United Stadium in London was reconfigured for
MLB this weekend. Minnesota in ten innings, one at Pittsburgh
eleven to five, Boston and ten innings one at the
White Sox six to four, Seattle in ten innings, one
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at Kansas City six to five, and Toronto in ten
innings won six ' four at Oakland. The Angels beat
Houston and closer Josh Hayter nine to seven on a
two run homer in the bottom of the ninth. Wins
for Arizona and Saint Louis as well and guys. The
LPGA Tour winner, well, let's just say she wasn't probably
in the conversation of who's going to take it today
(01:06:02):
because she overcame a seven shot deficit to win on today.
Linnea Strom from Sweden shot a final round sixty to
get the victory. This was a three round event in
New Jersey. She had missed the cut in five of
her last six events, barely made the cut on the
number this weekend she had played at Arizona State, and
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here gets an LBGA Tour victory after starting the day
tied for fifty second place, what by far the biggest
comeback by position on that tour since nineteen eighty four,
and in fact, the lowest final round score by an
LPGA Tour winner. Ever, how much you win, Yeah, I
gotta looked at it at eight four mil let's put
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it that way back to you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
So the L in LPGA does not stand for live,
is what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Lucrative?
Speaker 7 (01:06:55):
Yeah, yeah, although kind of like live. It was a
three day event.
Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Well that's good. A sixty Wow?
Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Lord who unconscious right there? Yeah, that's like you you're
in a zone. You're not talking anybody. You don't hear
to Caddy.
Speaker 7 (01:07:12):
You just like, just for the record, remember we were saying,
I looked it up a last hour. We were saying,
the guys at the two men's events, you finished top twenty,
you get a quarter million dollars. Yeah, the winner got
about a quarter million dollars today.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I was just looking at the yearly money list on
the LPGA.
Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
So actually, let's have some fun since I'm looking at it,
and Steve, you might be looking at it. But Eve
from so Nellie Korda, who has won like a just
she's played ridiculous golf. So almost every tournament, yeah she played,
she wins. It's it's ridiculous. She is number one on
the money list in nine tournaments played. And Steve, how
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many wins is it in the nine tournaments that she's.
Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Played five or six? I think it was.
Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yeah, I think you're right, So that's what I was thinking.
Five wins out of nine events. What do you think
her annual money is at this point?
Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
A million dollars?
Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
No, it's not that sad three it is, it's almost three.
But she has yet to reach three million dollars after
five wins.
Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Scotty Scheffler won four today and Scotty's won four today.
Speaker 7 (01:08:24):
He's over twenty four million for the year, already breaking
his record set last year in a full season.
Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
So in other words, the LPGA is like, will take
Caitlin Clark if you guys don't want her.
Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
She wants to play golf. We're open to that.
Speaker 7 (01:08:40):
So are we going to have a conversation? WNBA Salary's
LPGA winnings. It's kind of the same thing, right.
Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I mean, if there's an LPGA player that suddenly grabs
America's attention, then yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:08:52):
And that has happened in the past, by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
In the past, but it was more maybe even more,
thank you. You know, there was the Onica Sorenstams. But
the one that we thought was going to grab everyone's
attention was Michelle wi Yes, who's finished with golf, who's retired.
Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
There's not enough money in it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Right, speaking of retired, I'm worried about Darren Waller. Anybody else,
everybody else just worried for the worried about the person
Darren Waller.
Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I am right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I mean this is like do you want to talk
about having it written all over your face and neon
signs and the alarms are all going off with regard
to mental health. Darren Waller's thirty one, and for those
who don't know his backstory, and I mean going on
the way back prior to when he popped with the Raiders,
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Darren had a lot of problems, a lot of substance
abuse problems, and then he got things going in the
right direction, started playing great football and then moved on
to the Giants and injuries took over and he's married
to Kelsey Plumb, the w NBA star from just a
(01:10:11):
year ago was correct now divorced, and I think that.
And then the rap song came out and was all
over the internet, and it was the minute you saw it,
you're like, oh, oh boy, this is not this isn't good.
Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
So in a way, I don't know how you read it.
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
He like as Glad, like I said three weeks ago,
I go, this guy's going to retire. The minute I
saw the video, I'm like, he's going to retire, and
he did. I'm trying to figure out if that's a
good thing or a bad thing. I feel like it's
a good thing. But if he loses his lady and
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his livelihood all at the same time, I think there's
a healthy level of concern there.
Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Yeah, it is, because that's that's a lot to deal with.
One would think if he would, you know, getting divorced
and stayed in at least to be with the guys
doing something he loves. But to have both of those
things snatched away like that, that's tough for anybody, let
(01:11:25):
alone and recovering addict. So yeah, prayers out, man, What
I I did something not to change the subject. But
I did something this weekend I don't normally do, so
that I'm invested into it now. Yeah, wa watched every
second of this Dodge Dodgers Yankees game.
Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Different, isn't it? All three games? It's different today. What
I've learned is use your probably not pitched to Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Yeah, when Giants came away with you, exact same impression
last weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Now when he's feeling like he's feeling today, yesterday, he today, I.
Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Wonder, Yes, it's been like two weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Yeah, but I'm just they had his number the first game,
you know, with nobody could hit. I mean, it was
just a picture's duel right until the eleventh. But I've
been thoroughly entertained by this series. Could you imagine if
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this was a preview to the World Series.
Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Well, I threw it out to you last week, and
I've got friends who are are not Dodger or Yankee
fans who have texted me just within the last hour
and they're like, I can't turn this off.
Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
I can't, I can't do it. They're like, I, I'm
not even going to watch the NBA Finals tonight. I
can't turn this.
Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Off like, I'm like, I taped the games and came
home and watch them. Like, my wife was like, what
are you doing? I was like, I'm watching the Dodger game.
She said, what you said? Excuse me? She said, say
what now? And look, I am in it. I love it.
(01:13:23):
It's amazing. Yeah, it's entertaining. I love the pitch clock.
Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Okay, let's get I gotta challenge you on this. Not
whether you like it or not, that's up to you.
I want to.
Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Challenge you on about the Dodgers and the Yankees. Yes,
we're live in.
Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
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Fox Sports Radio. Okay, y'all live inthe Tirec dot com
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(01:14:03):
haven't even gotten to the Lakers head coaching thing yet.
I bet you have something to say. We could save
that for the top of the hour though, if you
want sure. I mean, we're going through a lot. Just
a second ago and I almost lost my train of thought.
We were talking Caitlyn Clark, we were talking Darren Waller.
(01:14:26):
What were we just talking about? You had something? You
had something juicy and and and I just forgot.
Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
I was talking about the Dodgers and the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Thank you, thank you. You're jogging my memory. Okay, So
I said I was going to challenge you on something.
Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
That's it, all right. You're telling me how much you
love this, and I get it. This is branding.
Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
It's no different than conversation that we had two hours
ago about Gino Ariy. I'm a kind of wagging his
finger at Caitlin Clark fans. It's like you can't tell
people what they like and what they want to see.
And sometimes we don't even know why. Why does the
Dodgers and Yankees look different? I mean it's history, so
(01:15:13):
those of us we are old enough to remember some history. Great,
but why do the Dodgers and Yankees look different to
an eleven year old? And I know the answer right now.
The answer right now is the two largest human beings
who have ever played in the history of this sport, Dawn,
those two jerseys. No one's not showing up for show. Hey,
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versus Aaron Judge. I had a buddy text me this
morning and he's reading some article on fan sided or
something like that, and he's a San Francisco Giants fan
and this article is all about how a trade between
the Yankees and the Giants could make the New York
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Yankees absolutely unstoppable. They cannot be beat if they can
just acquire third baseman Matt Chapman from from the San
Francisco Giants. And he's kind of bothered because he's like, uh, dude,
(01:16:18):
we're in a playoff spot right now too.
Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
We don't have that good of a record.
Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
But why, like, what what is this article? And I said,
first of all, fan sided just means somebody has a computer.
So that's great. It's an I'm not dissing it, but
it's an article. That's just it's fan sided. That's what
it's called. So don't get triggered by that. But you
(01:16:43):
know where I'm going here, which is to say that
anything Dodgers and Yankees related feels so expectant, as if
there's a birthright to all of the good players in
these two jury. And while that is wonderful, the one
(01:17:05):
time out of two years that the two teams play
in an interleague series like they are now, I do
think there's a conversation to be had with regard to
the way baseball has sort of like the way the
cookie has crumbled, the way this has all fallen out,
because as you said, Dodgers versus Yankees World Series would
(01:17:25):
be amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Ef from your right, what if we don't get that?
Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Is there any other series that would interest you? No,
that's a problem because as I sit here today, I
know that they are probably the respective best teams in
each league. Apologies to the Phillies, but I got you.
They're probably the best. They're certainly the most watched teams
(01:17:52):
in the two leagues. But if I said to you, Okay,
let's bet you get Dodgers and Yankees, I get the field.
Any other matchup, even if it's only one of those
teams I win, I'm the favorite, it is much more
likely that this matchup does not happen than it does.
Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
True. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
You know, I know people get frustrated by the NFL model, but.
Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Makes sense. Sometimes spread it out a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Yeah, it makes sense, but it's you know, we got us,
you know, top of a knife, top.
Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Of the knife. Oh, moviie bets at the plate two
on two outs.
Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Like the fact that I'm sitting here watching the Celtics
play the MAVs and you're watching baseball my head's exploding
bizarro world.
Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
And just to be clear, I'm watching both. But yes,
I know you are. I know you are.
Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
This is it, This is this is big ten. This
is what people want to see. Hit this thing out
the park. Moki, Well, I'm in it, look.
Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
So in it. You can't even answer my question.
Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
I don't even remember what you say it. I know
that I have a problem with that. What did you say?
Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
I said, would it make sense for baseball to spread
it out a little bit?
Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
What is what we want? We don't care nothing about
all that other foolishness.
Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Yeah, except for what you want is probably not gonna happen.
It should it should happen. Nah, there's no shoot in baseball.
I mean, the Dodgers have been due through all of
this dominance and all of these winnings of the division.
Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
They have been to.
Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
One sort of World Series that okay, okay, you're right,
they've been to one that mattered, and they blew it.
Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Come on, Moki, even if the other team was cheating,
they still come on.
Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
You guys want to mark this down. This was the
night that he got distracted by baseball.
Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Oh, I'd have never thought you would do this. Show.
Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
He's all right, all right, fine, what if I yet,
Lakers head coach? Would you pay attention? So impressionable? You know,
I mean, I get it if if everybody we're talking
about it's just kids, but normally adults aren't this impressionable?
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I'm not trying to bring the heat right now. I'm
really not e from The Lakers are one of the
(01:21:04):
great brands, one of the great organizations in the history
of sports in this country. I acknowledge that. I fully
understand that. I also think you fans can be really funny.
Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Something you can be Can you laugh at yourself? Please?
Just please? Of course you got it? Please, because you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
The whole this comes from the whole hashtag future Laker thing. Oh,
it comes from It comes from the expectant, entitled nature
of if anyone's good, well then there ares and what
I've noticed about Laker fans is you can largely be
convinced of almost anything, anything.
Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
And it's hysterical.
Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
So Darvin Ham's fired and everyone's like, yeah, I knew it,
That's the way it should be. And then it's quiet
for a second. And the first story that comes up
for the offseason is I think the Lakers are going
to draft a player in the second round who's nowhere
near good enough to be in the NBA, but that's
(01:22:18):
the plan, and everyone's like, you, damn right, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
That makes some great sense. I don't care for the
guy that we're trying to keep his forty. I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
And the next thing that happens, people go, so, I
think that the Lakers are going to hire Lebron's podcast
partner to be the head coach, and everyone's like, I
think he's just like coach k.
Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
In fact, he's a young pat Riley.
Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Who said that everybody google JJ Reddick and pat Riley
you'll see articles everywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
I think I think he could be the next.
Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
I think it makes all the sense in the world.
Bob absolutely doesn't matter that all he's been doing is
podcasting for the last five years. He hit a three
he used to be able to hit a three, and
he talks to Lebron all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
I think that's oozed off of Lebron. Yep, that's the
guy for us.
Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Then it turns out it was probably at rob link
of smokescreen the whole time. WOJ comes out and goes
Dan Hurley. Okay, very respected college coach. I know you
know all about this, having faced your San Diego State
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team twice in.
Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
The last two right, and he's.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Got a vibe and now all of these things. This
is nothing against Dan Hurley, but the Laker fan that
I used to know, if you had said, all right,
we need a new coach.
Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
We're looking at a college guy in a podcast host,
what do you think.
Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Would have been like, what the hell are you talking about?
We go get the krem de la crem in this country,
we go, we go to the other NBA team that
loves their coach, and we take him because we're the Lakers.
You guys have all reached this point now where we
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could convince you anything. I could tell you tomorrow that
WOD says Ronald McDonald's going to be the next head coach,
and you guys would be like, welly, where's yellow. It's
crazy what's happened? Just the Internet has taken Laker fandom
and absolutely drives it now.
Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
And I like, come on, man, you guys aren't that
I'm not even that.
Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
He may be a great coach, but it's it feels
so like, uh, I'm sorry, it feels so desperate.
Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
It is desperate, thank you. It's bitting it, of course.
I mean, hey man, we're still paying too other coaches
they don't even coach no more.
Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
Of course it's desperate. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
The leader of our team is three thousand years old.
We're watching our mortal rivalries in the final, having a
chance to go up one championship on us. Yeah, it's desperate.
What did you think it was? Thought it was okay?
Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
No, no, it's not about being okay. But I would
have felt like what happened to the days when the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Pore drafts, poor free agents, all of it. It's just
been awful. So we are desperate. We are looking for
that person to come in and write the ship. And yes,
look they've tried it the other way. They've got seasoned coaches,
they've got coaches who've won Coach Up the year, they've
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done all of those things so much to the point
where they almost hired a podcaster. They're trying to figure
out the puzzle, and you know, look, I just want
to coach. Who can coach, who will make an adjustment,
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who will drop a play, who will know what lineup
to put in the game. That's not too hard to ask,
is it.
Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
I don't think so. So that's that's all I want.
Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
So Yeah, if it's Dan Hurley, absolutely, I think he's
a phenomenal coach.
Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
I've watched him destroy us two years in a row. Yeah. No,
he's a fantastic coach.
Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Which, by the way, I'd like to remind everything everyone
means nothing with regard to what would happen if he
coaches the Lakers. Sorry, it doesn't mean he's not a
great coach.
Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
But we watch this a lot. Somebody becomes the Bee's.
Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Knees and they immediately you know what I mean, Like
someone makes the tournament from uh, Florida Atlantic or whatever.
You make the tournament, you win two games, all of
a sudden, Michigan State or Michigan's calling you. It's like,
I mean, maybe that'll work, or maybe their guys just
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got hot for a weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
Yeah, he's a good coach, man.
Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
He They come from basketball family like this is the
dad was the coach that brothers the player's pedigree.
Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
There, But the NBA is a different different makers are
a different animal, even within the NBA. Yeah, I know,
you got, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
It's a lot, and don't take in four games just
I mean, it can't be any worse than what we've
been we've we've been turning on. So at this point,
let's roll the dice. Let's not go dust somebody off
the heap or somebody off the third seat of someone's bench.
Let's say, Look, let's a winning coach and on any level,
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that's all I want.
Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
So what do you think.
Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
I think he'd be a great hire. Okay, I think
he'd be a great higher. I think they'd run plays.
I think the rotation would be better. I think they'd
be better defensively. Do you know how hard it is
for a great player to listen to somebody who you
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used to dunk into the rim? Well, I'm saying, I'm
just saying, if you're my coach and I used to
score forty on you, I'm like, okay, man, we start
off on the wrong foot, I guess because I'm like,
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it's nothing you can tell me.
Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Derek White, woof, he's so underrated. I'm glad you're I'm
glad you're watching the NBA again. A right, welcome back movie,
struck out? Come on?
Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Yeah, yeah, Mookie, I just uh I remember a day
or actually sort of feel like we're still there. You know,
you talk about are you gonna listen to somebody who
used to dunk on? I don't know, man, if you're
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an NBA star, you canna listen to anybody. Yeah, person
in your respect Lebron and Anthony Davis, like what happened?
Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Just know, it's not even about that. It's like, can
you it's not even about coaching once you get to
a certain like look my tenth year in the league
after starting ten years like we didn't he didn't coach
me the same way, but the level of respect from
both it's there.
Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Right. If I did something wrong, it wasn't a what
are you doing? Come on?
Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
No, I'm not responding to that, but what it would
be is like, hey, on this play, like what are
we thinking here? And then I gotta be honest with myself.
Look at you know this that and I'm tired or whatever.
Whatever happened. He was like, all right, well let's just
try to focus in. But it's a different level. It's
(01:30:29):
a respect thing, right, It's not about the actual coaching.
It's about the scenarios right, when to challenge, when to
call a time out, what lineup to put in right?
Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
What plays are we.
Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Calling outside of the time out? If they're on a run,
what do you do? It's all of those things that
garner respect. And if you can't get the respect of
the players because you're not doing what you're supposed to
do there, then yeah, it's gonna be what it's gonna be.
I was at the game, don't watching. I'm like, so nothing,
(01:31:06):
You're not gonna do nothing over there? Would the player
take the clipboard out your hand and do and drap
his own play? That that's the real thing. Like I
like when when when Mike Brown came to the Lakers
(01:31:27):
and he was coaching Kobe, I was like, oh, this
is not gonna work. Because in his press conferences when
he was winning with with Cleveland, I just gave Lebrono.
They were like, you know, what did you say, Dow,
I'm coming out. I just gave Lebron ball and got
out the way. Not nobody respecting that. Nobody's gonna respect that.
The Kobe Bryant is not gonna that's not gonna resonate
(01:31:47):
with him, not coming from Phil Jackson. So that it's
it's it all means something and tough situations. Can you
do something to give us the advantage as a coach.
(01:32:11):
I'm a coach right like that. I at the small
level I coach at those things are glaring because you
coach against coaches that don't.
Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Do that, sure, and you benefit. I benefit from that.
Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
My kids trust me, The parents trust me, and I've
built up that trust over the last seven eight years
of coaching. So now they know, at no point in
the game is it too much?
Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Okay, So I got a question for you then about
what this does or could or might mean for Lebron James,
and I'll ask that to you next with me from Salama,
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the air. My over bet is not out of play.
It's not looking great, right I'm very uh two fifteen yeah,
not looking good anyway. I'm surprised. You know, Luca's got
twenty nine right now. Kyrie seven of eighteen sixteen points
(01:33:53):
just didn't really have a profound effect, not enough on
the basketball game tonight, which is really surprising.
Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
One thing I've noticed about these NBA playoffs, as soon
as a team does something that makes the world go
the squad, they don't play another good game the rest
of the way. Like as soon as Denver rallied back
from down two oh to Minnesota, Denver's winning another championship.
(01:34:27):
Bye bye, And then what did we spend the next
week doing well? Minnesota the Wolves, Wow, that's coronation time,
like they're gonna win it all.
Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
And as soon as they didn't well, Luke and Kyrie
I believe that's the best.
Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Backcourt in the history of the world have ever about
to be down to oh.
Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
It was probably the Celtics all along, and the only
reason it was is because we're bored and we're always
looking to like, have a cool take and be right.
Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
As soon as we started it's back court.
Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Ever, should have known they'd come out lay an egg
in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Then again, maybe they'll win the next one in roll.
Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
But yeah, disappointing performance by those two so far in
this series, big time.
Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
I would agree.
Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
I would, yes, much to my dismay.
Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
You were rooting for the Mavericks. Huh, of course I'm
a Laker man. Come on, I know you are, but
I can't go with the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
Although I like Jaylen Brown, you know, I like Jason Tatum,
I just can't like the team.
Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
This championship, that the Celtics might win. Right here, what
does it do to the little Lakers Celtics thing with
the championships all time that everyone always freaks out about seventeen.
Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Eighteen where it's not little? Where are you guys at?
Where are you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
I nowhere near? It doesn't matter. I just right, people
trumpet things about.
Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Funny people smaller than us are telling us how little
we are.
Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Yeah, so that's not what I said. What I did
say is I think.
Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
It's hysterical that people trumpet things that happened before they
were born. It's kind of the point I was making
last week about the Yankees. Sure, the Yankees and the
Dodgers are different, I get that. I just don't think
it's fun Yankees and Dodgers fans all the championships when
(01:36:49):
when you weren't even born. I don't want to hear
about Mickey Mantle. What are we talking about here? The Celtics.
The Celtics in our lifetime eve from have not been
one of the top five teams in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
No, so my opinion, don't worry. You still got them.
They had a two year run. Yeah, that two year run.
Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
So anyway, just to put a ball on what we
were talking about earlier, how do you think the Lakers
head coaching thing is going to finalize? Because it's not,
And then if it does, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
I think.
Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
I don't think they'll for whatever reason, coach Early. I
would love for him to be the coach. I don't
think he's going to take it.
Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Interesting. I wish he would, but I think we'll be
continue to search, which I hate. Just want a good
(01:38:15):
coach to come in coach my team. That's it. Okay,
this is interesting. Why do you think he's not gonna
take it. It's a lot of pressure, it's a lot.
He doesn't like pressure.
Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
No, I'm not saying that. It's there's no room for error.
So that's a different level of pressure. Okay, no coach
in the last six coaches that's finished out their contract.
That's the type of pressure I'm talking about. And one
(01:38:48):
of them won a championship. So that's that's why. You know,
why would you subject yourself to that for a truckload
of money? I mean the money? Is the money come
(01:39:09):
from a basketball family? Yeah, you don't think you know?
What does he make in a Yukon less?
Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Of course, is less less less than half what he
would make with the Lakers. Yeah. Look, I've learned this.
I've tried to use the same.
Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Like take the free agency late in the career of
any player who's made well over one hundred maybe in
some cases two hundred million dollars. Let's take Klay Thompson's
free agency right now, for example.
Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
Is money a factor? He will make it a factor.
It is not a factor if he wants to stay
in Golden State.
Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
Well, but you know what I mean, like why why
anywhere else they're gonna have to pay if then money
is not a factor? Of course, so be a factor.
Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
And I I think that that fans feel this way
often They're like, at what point have you made enough?
And the answer is always never, you know what I mean.
I was having this conversation with my lady earlier today,
like Mark Cuban right now, when he buys a business,
(01:40:19):
why it's almost like just because you need something to do,
Like it's not like, how is a successful day or
a successful year going to change the life of Mark
Cuban even one iota.
Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
I don't know. I don't walk in those shoes.
Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
I just know that even when people have made a billion,
apparently another five million still is five million, and that's
a lot of freaking money. I think fans think about
that stuff a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
I really do. And so it's going.
Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
To pass out. And I don't know if these reports
are true. But what did it say they offered him
twelve a year. Yeah, he's making and he's making five
and I'm supposed to believe that that doesn't that's not
attractive to him. He's I have a hard time buying
that based on the history of human beings.
Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
It's also what does mama want to live in LA.
It's a lot of factors. Money is part of it,
but there's a lot of factors when it comes to
something like that. So the money's good, right, it's there.
But the bottom line is if mama's like, I'm not
(01:41:44):
feeling LA, then you're like, Okay, it really happens like
that once you've been in it and doing it and
you know the grind of a coach and now he
may be wanting to get off the recruiting carousel and
n IL carousel at IL Yep. Right, that'll drive you crazy.
(01:42:04):
So it's a lot that goes into it. I hope
he takes a job. Like I said, Yeah, Jason Tatum
has again the third leading scorer eighteen points eighteen. Like,
if they go on to sweep Dallas, there's a good
chance Jason Tatum won't be the finals MVP.
Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
That's a bigger conversation. Yeah, he's not so far, not
even close.
Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
Again, I said it, I did say it. I did
say the three letters MVP. You did, And the first
thing that popped in my head was Stephen MVP.
Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
The SEGA good evening once again.
Speaker 7 (01:42:45):
Gentlemen, Yeah, Boston up two games to none in the
NBA Finals. They've just beaten Dallas one oh five ninety eight.
Leading scorer was Drew Holiday for the Celtics twenty six points,
eleven rebounds, no turnovers. Jason hate Him shooting six of
twenty two from the floor. Tonight he had eighteen points
twelve assists. Jalen Brown had twenty one points, Brown with
(01:43:08):
seven assists, six turnovers. Each team from three point range
about twenty five percent from long distance. Luka Donsich with
a triple w He had twenty three points in the
first half. Finished with thirty two points, eleven rebounds, eleven assists.
Donsich with eight turnovers as well. Kyrie Irving sixteen points,
six assists in this loss. Boston and the regular season
(01:43:31):
at home went thirty seven and four. They've won the
two home games to start this best of seven. Dallas
will be home Wednesday and Friday nights in games three
and four. This means now in the past three seasons
Kyrie Irving playoffs included is zero to twelve against the
Boston Celtics. Game two of the Stanley Cup Final is
(01:43:52):
Tomorrow night. At Florida. The Panthers beat Edmonton three to
nothing in last night's opener. Carlos Alcarez won the French
Open in five sets, six two in the fifth against
number four seed Alexander Zaverev. Zverev was the guy that
beat Rafael Nadal first round. Today's match lasted nearly four
and a half hours. American Cocoa Golf, one of the
women's doubles final in college baseball Super Regional number one,
(01:44:15):
Tennessee was a twelve to one winner at home to
eliminate Evansville, Florida in thirteen innings eliminated Clemson eleven to ten.
That the College World Series matchups will include Tennessee against
Florida State, Virginia against North Carolina. Among the games still
going on tonight, Texas and m trying to advance, has
taken the lead nine to eight over Oregon in the
(01:44:37):
top of the seventh tight end. Darren Waller told the
Giants he is retiring from the NFL the UFL Football
Conference finals for this weekend. Saint Louis tonight was hosting
San Antonio and the Bramos of San Antonio have pulled
off the upset twenty five to fifteen, so they go
to the championship game, which will be held in Saint
Louis next Sunday. NASCAR victory for Kyle lars And at
(01:45:00):
Sonoma his third victory of the year. He has the
points lead now Yankees Dodgers was quite a weekend in
Major League Baseball. Yanks won tonight's game six to four
over LA Aaron Judge three hits, including his twenty fourth
home run of the season. He has fifty nine RBIs,
and Yankee outfielder Juan Sota was out again with a
sore forearm. MRI had showed inflammation. Trent Grisham was up
(01:45:22):
at bat at one point and fans at Yankee Stadium
were chanting, we want Sodo. Grisham then hit a three
run homer in the sixth for the lead Yankees with
six to four, and quite a weekend for MLB in London,
they reconfigured a soccer stadium, west Ham United Stadium four.
Major League Baseball attendance was fifty five thousand today and
(01:45:45):
the Mets, with three runs in the top of the ninth,
beat the Phillies six to five. Ten inning wins on
the road for both Boston and Minnesota and for Seattle
and Toronto. Toronto went at Oakland sixty four in ten
and guys the finish in Anaheim today, the Angels wound
up beating Houston nine to seven, the loss to closer
Josh Hayter. The winning hit was a two run homer
(01:46:07):
in the bottom of the ninth. It was a deep
flyball to left Houston's left field, went back to the wall,
seemed to make the catch, collided with the wall and
dropped the baseball into Row one after review, home run. Wow,
not an out game over Angels win.
Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Back o ouch. Taiko have to say about this? Not
off its head? Yeah? No, this is better. This is better,
but still not great, not great.
Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Yeah, wow, incredible finish, Steve, thank you so much. Great
stuff tonight Live tire rack dot com Studios. You know,
in reading the story I'm reading right now from you
may have a point. I wonder what kind of vibe
you get. Early who spoke to ESPN about the Laker
(01:47:07):
interview that he just had and has told the ESPN
he will make his decision on Monday. That is tomorrow, obviously,
and in Connecticut that's in an hour and a half.
But listen to some of these, there's a few things
do unpack here, he said, quote the Lakers made a
(01:47:28):
compelling case, presented a compelling vision for him to become
the next coach, but that he also loves what he
has built at Yukon plans to make a decision Monday.
Hurley told the ESPN that he left quote extremely impressed
(01:47:50):
with Rob Polinka and Genie Buss and has been spending
the day to day weighing his eyes options. All right, well,
what kind of vibe do you get?
Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
I mean, you know, the great thing about the Lakers
is they know how to they know how to sell you.
Sure right, It's it's intoxicating. You come in there and
you see the history and you know they're pretty much saying, man,
we'll get you whatever you want. Just run the show.
You get to make the decisions, you get to do this,
(01:48:30):
and boom. You know, we've got nice properties, you know,
anywhere you guys want to live, and you know, you
get the whole thing. It's it's, it's, it's it's it's intoxicating.
It's very seductive. Oh, by the way, we'll make you
pay you, you know, twice what you're making now, and
we'll guarantee you, you guarantee it, no matter what. You'd
(01:48:53):
be like, Okay, well we're in La, let's do it.
What is a lot that comes with that? The expectation
could be too much because the expectation is to win,
I win a title, period, And so if he's willing
(01:49:15):
to step in to those expectations, because those are his expectations,
not just to make double what he makes and live
in Los Angeles, then I think it'll be a perfect fit.
Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Yeah, I get all that, And at the end of
the conversation, I agree with your previous point. If I
had to predict right now. Doing so well with predictions
this weekend, but if I had to predict right now,
I would say that he's staying. And it's not the
quotes that I'm reading, it's the fact that he gave
(01:49:51):
them in the first place. This is pretty unprecedented. I
would argue Ropa Linka and the Lakers operate on the downlow,
that they've been doing their whole secret. If they've been
doing it the whole time, they JJ reddick, JJ reddick.
Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
They're like, no, it's not but why do we know
this now?
Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
And why did Dan Hurley take the call from ESPN
and create a countdown clock to his big decision that
he's going to release tomorrow. Would he play it this
way if he were leaving? I would argue if he
(01:50:43):
were leaving, that's when it becomes a very sensitive issue
for Yukon. You've got players to talk to, families to
check in with, You've got a whole thing that happens
when there's a surprise departure.
Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
Well, maybe that's what he took the weekend to do.
Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
Maybe maybe, but I would I My guess would be,
if I'll just put it this way, If I were
Dan and that's what I was doing, I'd let ESPN
go to voicemail.
Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
That's what I would do. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
I would not do an interview and tell them, well,
look really great, really thinking hard about it, call you
back tomorrow with an answer that feels like an odd
way to play it. If you're about to leave, you
U kon. I know, Come on, guys, you're emotionally wrapped
(01:51:49):
up in it.
Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Well, it's Mark WEATHERDDY from salam Tyra Com Studios coming
up next. Let's dive a little further into your statement
that there's trouble if Jason Tatum doesn't get it together
at least in these next two games, and Boston ends
up winning the championship.
Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
What do you do? We'll get into that next on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
All right, Tyreck dot Com Studios with e from Sala.
Boston is up two games to none in the NBA Finals,
and in none of those two games has Jason Tatum
scored twenty points or been the leading scorer in the game.
Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
So talk to me. You just made a statement.
Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
What if Boston wins this thing, let's say four or
five games.
Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
I don't think it'll go that way, dab LEAs.
Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
We'll still have something to say about this when it
gets to their building, I would think. But history suggests
that with the two nothing start, the Celtics are highly
likely to be crown champs. What happens if they do?
Tatum is never the leading scorer. Tatum is not the
NBA Finals MVP. What happens he becomes a champion, much
(01:53:23):
in the vein of Steph Curry. Only problem is Steph
Curry at two league MVPs and couldn't manage to win
a finals MVP. Now and that was still the knock
on Steph Curry. Yep, because Igudala and then Kadi twice
(01:53:46):
and then finally he got one.
Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
And twenty twenty two Iguadala one was well interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
Yeah it was, but he didn't do enough to right,
like he wasn't showing up in game six is in
game set like it just he wasn't doing enough, similar
to what's happening right now with with with Tatum Tatum,
Jason Tatum. So that's where it it'll lie. It'll lie
(01:54:18):
in the fact that, look, he's an NBA champion. Someone
came in was the finals MVP, and it'll be a
blemish on his I don't want to say blemish because
you know, winning the championship is winning a championship, but
on his legacy in terms of being the face of
(01:54:40):
the league and one of the great all time greats, right, like,
it matters, It really matters.
Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Oh, there's no doubt it matters. I totally get that.
By the way, I don't know, Look we're two games in.
Silly maybe to start talking about this right now. I
don't know who is the MVP so far. Yeah, it's
it's it's I mean, that's that's how good their team is.
That's how good their team is. That's how good the
(01:55:12):
Celtics are.
Speaker 4 (01:55:14):
But it would be as of now, Jalen Brown, he's
been the most consistent, even though he had a high
number of turnovers today.
Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Yeah, six turnovers, only had twenty one points.
Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
But you look at Luca on the flip side of that,
Look at what Luca's doing. He had a you know,
thirty point triple double. And you know, we're waiting on
Kyrie to join the party.
Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
I will say the wing defenders for Boston are tremendous
and Kyrie's having a tough time going by Jayleen Brown,
Derek White, Drew Holliday and even Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
They're just bigger.
Speaker 4 (01:55:58):
And he's not blown by him like he normally is,
and they're affecting those off balance shots that he's perfected.
He's having a tough time scoring. He can't find his rhythm,
and that's due to the fact that the Celtics are
playing excellent perimeter defense.
Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
Excellent. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
I look at this right now, and there's no doubt
that it's it's way too early to have this conversation,
but it's it's similar to what I said to you
earlier on in this show. I look at Jason Tatum,
and for some reason, it just oozes off of him.
Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
When I watch him play. He looks insecure in these moments,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
We've watched the arrivals where he's walking in and and
you know, he's talked about there was something two years ago.
I'm trying to put a finger on it. But when
they played the Warriors two years ago, he like sent
text messages to Kobe.
Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
I mean, Kobe had long passed.
Speaker 4 (01:57:13):
Yeah, it's it's it's weird, but sent you know what
I mean, like like be with.
Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Me tonight and whatnot, and like it was game four
and you're up two to one, and and and Steph
Curry came in and and and took over and had
an epic performance and the Warriors never lost another game.
Speaker 4 (01:57:30):
And and that's what we're waiting for him to have
and big. But that's what that's what the stage is for.
The stage the NBA Finals that stayed, the Super Bowl,
this stage, the World Series, this stage is for epic performances.
So even though you get to the stage and you
don't stand out right like that's a you thing, and
(01:57:58):
you know it could be he's pushing, he's trying opposed
to letting it come to him, but of course he
hears it, he feels it.
Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
This Celtics team is starting to remind me of that
Pistons team that beat the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
Was that they just have more offense. They have more
offensive power. Though that that that that that Detroit team
where they were holding teams to seventy points.
Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
They were incredible defensively, I'm not I don't mean they're
reminded me in that way. They're reminding me of them
because they don't have.
Speaker 3 (01:58:36):
A leading score. They just have a bunch of people,
a bunch of guys.
Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
I hate, I hate putting Tatum and Brown in that bucket,
but that's what it looks like right now.
Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
But Jayalen Brown is is he's he's stepping into this moment.
He's standing on stage and ready to perform. He's going
about it in a business like way. Nobody's talking about him.
There's no pressure there. He's just going about his business
and he's you can tell him. He's in the floor
(01:59:06):
of the game, he's in his bag, he's having a
good time. There's no there's no pressure.
Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
No, but it all yeah, the whole the whole thing
just sort of you get what I'm saying, though, from
Tatum and Brown, it could just as easily be Holiday.
The other night it was Porzia's Yep, yeah, I know,
I know you like White. Derek White has really had
a wonderful year. They're they're they're they're fantastic. They're fantastic.
But Jason Tatum is not. I hate he doesn't stand out.
Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
He just doesn't. And maybe that's just play a ton Yeah,
maybe that's his lot, and that's okay, that's okay, that's okay.
Are are Kyrie and Luca are still the best backcourt
of all time? I want to check in on that,
are they? Oh? Man, people get to get ahead of themselves.
(01:59:57):
Well not us, man, appreciate you so much much.
Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Great having another hang tonight. This thing will all probably
be a little bit more buttoned up next time we talk.
Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
Yes, it will be.
Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Yes, it will all right. From Salama Mark Wheelard. This
is Fox Sports Radio.
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, first and foremost, watch party, Ephram and Willard is
back on a Sunday night, ladies and gentlemen. The second
NBA game that has happened in the last three months.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It feels like is about to tip off and we're
going to be all over it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Game two between the Celtics and the Mavericks is upon us.
But of course that's not what the world's talking about today. Also, Ephraim,
for what feels like the fourth or fifth weekend in
a row, we sit down on a Sunday night and
the world is again talking about Caitlin Clark. So, first
and foremost, good evening to you.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
My brother. How are we doing? I'm good man. How
you doing? I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And I feel like this is maybe the most relatable
thing we could say about this is every single person
listening to our voices is, at one time or another,
I would think, worked for a company, and often as
an employee, you feel like your company is faced with
this conundrum, do we do the right thing or do
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we do the financial companies pick the financial thing, And
this one's interesting to me. I do have an opinion,
but this is one of those where I do see
both sides. Caitlin Clark is not on team USA if that's.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The wrong financial thing to do.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I don't think there's anybody in the world who would
argue that the women's five on five Olympic basketball tournament
would have a lot more attention if Caitlyn Clark were
on the team. However, it's not the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And it's not just.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Because there are twelve veterans who are better and she
wasn't at the Olympic trials and all of those things.
It's more so I always look at the Olympics. It's
hard to do this in basketball, but the Olympics are
something that you just flat out qualify for. Like if
we're in track and field, if you jumped the highest,
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you on the team. I don't care what your name is.
And if you don't jump the highest, you're not on
the team. So this one's interesting to me. I don't
have it because it's the Olympics. I don't have an
issue with her not being on this team. By the
same token, I think we could all admit would have
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been better for the Olympics if she was.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, it would have been, but you know, there's a
lot there's some people out here there like appalled and like,
how could they not put her on the Well, they're
in terms of best players available, would she be one
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of the best players? I remember when the Dream Team
went and Shaq wasn't on it. Shaq was coming out
of college and Shaq wasn't on the the Dream Team.
He was the first pick in the draft and all
that Christian Layner made it.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Kristen Lightner was exactly because he was still in college.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Right, So, I mean they both come out right like,
but they picked Christian Layightner over Shaquille O'Neill, which seemed
weird to everyone, But okay, it's not one of those
situations where I think they were like, oh, we're not
gonna do this, We're not gonna have Kitland on the
team now. I just think there were better options to
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fill out a limited roster. I think this is probably
the best thing that could happen for Caitlyn Clark because
although the WNBA didn't see it wise to give her
an opportunity to ease her way into the w NBA,
they gave them the most luc ludicrous schedule yep. I
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mean they played eleven games before most teams played seven eight.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, seven or eight right, right? I wonder how many
people have noticed that?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
No, not, not a lot of people, because a lot
of people aren't paying attention. They're just listening to the
looking at the highlights and hearing the sound bites and
and and and the clips, but they're not really paying
attention to what's happening. You're forcing a rookie to hit
a wall in the first quarter of the season by
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giving them eleven games. I believe they had five or
six of them on the road with minimal practice if
any in between.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So uh yeah, there. This should be.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
In my opinion, a great opportunity because they're gonna play
for about another month and they're gonna stop down. That
stop down is going to give her an opportunity to heal,
to to work, to practice, to get herself in better
physical shape in terms of the rigors of the w
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n b A, because she's had a sample size of
what it's like, and she should be able to come
off of that break when others are out still playing
basketball more revitalized and refreshed and ready to attack the
second half of the season. So for me, I think
it's great for her. For the WNBA and marketing wise
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not so much. But look, I can't fought them for
picking a stronger roster.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
To attack the world. Now.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
We do have the best basketball women's basketball players on
the planet Earth, so for them in the Olympics, they
should be steamrolling people.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Our guys. On the other hand, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well playing field done, like even out over the last decade.
On that front, I think everything you just said is
pretty spot on. This is probably the best thing for Caitlyn.
My god, this whole thing has just gotten It's gotten
too hot. He has gotten way too hot. It's too
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much at a certain point, and I don't think there's
any way to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
But there are so many people that are now sort
of branding themselves as fans of Caitlyn Clark. Forget being
fans of women's basketball or even basketball, just fans of
Caitlyn Clark. And I wonder how many of them realize,
Like you start to tension and pressure on one person,
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there's a major drawback to the person that you're saying
you're a fan of. It just becomes too much. What
happens from I know you're a Hollywood person.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
What happen?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
You know what I mean by that, But a lot
of people won't know what that means. Okay, a certain
connotation that goes with Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I don't mean you've got flowing hair in a convertible.
I like you, Okay, Entertainment industry, well beyond sports.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I'm in there, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And so you know this, what happens Eight times out
of ten when you get a child acting star before
the age of fifteen, what usually happens.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's not good. I could take you They've done on
drugs by eighteen. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And so I'm starting to feel this for Caitlin where
it's like, look, this is this has become there has
nothing to do with basketball anymore. Every time she plays,
we're having social conversations, fairness conversations, race conversations. Like I said,
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we're not gonna put the toothbases back in the tube.
I'm starting to get concerned for whether or not this
young lady is even going to have an opportunity to
just go be a baller. And so for from this
perspective for the Olympics, You're probably right it's probably good
for her to just set this one out.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, I think it'll It'll give people time to decompress
and the fresh and the newness of you know, the
entity that is Caitlin Clark. You know, it'll it'll die
down a little bit. I hope viewers for the w
n B A uh, don't die down. She's already missed
a game from injury. But it's tough, man, professional sports
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are you know, most people don't have, you know, context
of how different it is from the pros to college.
I mean case in point, remember Drew Timmy very well,
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he was a two time college player of the Year.
I can tell you from Kazaga, good basketball team, good
basketball player.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, he didn't get drafted. Right.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
You look at Zach Edie, who's the two time basketball
you know, player of the year in college. He most
likely won't be a lottery pick, right, So he was like, well,
why he dominated college? Yeah, because it's different when you
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get to the pros. As good as Steph was in college,
when he got to the pros, it took a minute.
It took more than a minute. And that's lost on
a lot of people because we're creatures of the moment.
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First of all, they didn't know if Steph was going
to be able to even play. He had severe ankle
issues early on in his career. And you know this
as a Bay Area guy, like it was just like, oh,
I mean, we ever get this guy help? So we
just are we just have the stepf his moments as
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of recent the last ten years. Like, oh man, but
it took some time. It takes players times into to
unfairly dump all of this stuff on Kaitlyn Clark like
she's coming to save a league that was already going
for twenty five plus years. That's not fair to the
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players in the league, as not fair to Kaitlyn Clark.
She just wants to play basketball and get paid for it,
well paid less for.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It, right right, She's getting paid for it on all
the places except for the WNBA. Yes, but yes, I'm
with you. I think we knew that this was going
to be a big deal. I think she knew it.
I think she's a celebrity and she was prepared for
some of it. But all of this, it's it is
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borderline too much for any one person right now.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
The extension of that, though, is the Olympics themselves, like
I do. Here's the funny side of it. To me,
I think anything that has like the words international or
federation in them, like I automatically don't.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Trust the organization. I'm like, that's corrupt.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, FIFA, I'm pretty sure one of the f
stands for federation.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I don't even know. But I'm like, you're crooked. I
know you're crooked.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
And I feel that way about Olympic committees globally because
we've watched all of the stuff that's going on behind
the scenes.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
For you, this is one where you'd be like, God,
if you really had the dollar signs in mind, of
course you would have stuck Caitlin Clark on the team.
But they didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So this is one of those where I'm like, hey,
good job, committee, federation, international organization.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Think I'm abob whatever you want to call yourself. Good job.
You probably did this the right way.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's not the best financial thing, it's not gonna put
the most eyes on the Olympics, but but it's probably
the right thing to do.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
It is the right thing to do because it's going
to benefit her the player. Right, She's not the w
n b A. She's a player on the Indiana fever
and this is going to benefit her, which I think
is amazing because I'm pulling for I think we all
are pulling for Calyn Clark, just like I'm pulling for
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Angel Reese and the other young women who came into UH,
into this league and gino UH what is Rima had
very profound things to say and if anyone is an
authority on UH and see the play Women's basketball, women
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basketball in general, he's one of the forefront in terms
of authorities to speak on that issue. He has some
very poignant things to say about Kaitlin Clark and the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
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our points are. I'll get to the bety over thing
here in a second, but I mean we just sat
here and talked for fifteen minutes about how leaving Caitlin
Clark off Team US.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
But I mean, when else do we do that in sports?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'd argue it's incredibly rare, and our behavior suggests that
we don't care that the wrong thing is done. Usually
the best example is the sport you played, no question
about that. Now interesting here because from artificial turf to.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Wednesday night football.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
On Christmas Day, like all of these things, even let's
take Jahn Morant and Draymond Green, if the league really
did there were personal problems and counseling need that handled
those situations differently as well. Anybody who's ever been to
counseling knows three weeks doesn't do it. You're not like
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I spoke to someone three times. I'm fixed that that's
not how it works. So the almighty dollar is always
center focus. And so we just sat here for fifteen
minutes talking about how the Olympic Committee and Team USA
and this is the right thing to do for the
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players who earn their way. It's the right thing to
do for Caitlyn Clark, it's better for her career. What's
the comp We don't do this in any other part
of sport, and.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Our behavior as fans suggest we don't give a rip. No.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I look, it's we talk about it because it's important
to talk about It's important to understand, you know, in
a society where everyone has a voice, and that you
know most voices go in all kinds of different directions
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to speak to things that you know may not make
sense to others, it makes sense to us, and try
to put in perspective and add some context to it.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Right, Like.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I think, I really literally think that they've definitely done
a disservice to Caitlyn and her not making the team
isn't a slight it's not they're taking the best, but
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twelve thirteen players that they have to Paris to compete
for a gold medal, Caitlyn will have plenty of time
to represent Team USA in the Olympics, and so I
think that was the right move. Whether you know, some
may agree or disagree with that. I'm sure many disagree,
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but the fact of the matter is it's it'll be
it's going to benefit her, it should benefit.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Her, right you get what I'm saying, though, And there's
two things in front of us, and one is considered
the right thing to do and the other one.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Money. We know on which one league's pick.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yes, traditionally, traditionally it's the money. Yeah, it's always the money.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And that's not what happened here.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And I don't even know all the intricacies of what
kind of dollar figure this would mean for the w NBA.
She played in the Olympics, but the profile would grow
even more, There's no question about that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It's but look, it's going to grow. It's going to
be there.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
What they need Caitlin Clark to do is be great
for it to grow, going and playing in the Olympics.
Would she continue, would she be great?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Or would she not get the minutes?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I brought up Christian Layner because Christian just carried bags
to the bus, you know what I mean, Like it
was just he carried the bags. Nobody was looking for
Christian Lightner to lead us to the right and and
that shouldn't be the expectation if she was on the team,
for her to lead us to gold. Now you're really
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spitting in the face of the veteran players and the
players who made that team and who make that team
what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
In her most recent game, she did she did go
out there and score thirty points.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, I mean she's a She is the thirteenth leading
scorer in the w NBA. Yeah, what if she was
the ninth? Could she made? Could she have made the team? Then?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
She's also had a one for ten game with three points,
had eight points and nine points, and leads the league
in turnovers. So let's just be realistic about our expectations
of what she's supposed to do her rookie year. And
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I think we have Geno's comments teed up. I'd love
to help with our perspective and have one of the
greats talk about it.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I think you and I both know the landscape that
we live in today, both sports wise and nonsports wise.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Right, we are in.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
A red blue and if you're red, you can't agree
with blue, and if you're blue, you can't agree with red.
Whereas most things are in the middle. If you're a
college player and you're a great college player, like Caitlin was,
the delusional fan base that follows her disrespected the WNBA players,
saying she's going to go in that league and.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Tear it apart.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
There were actually odds like she's third or fourth em
betting odds of being MVP at a WNBA. These people are
so disrespectful and so unknowledgeable and so stupid that it
gives women's basketball a bad name.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Okay, so the kid was set up for failure.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Right from the beginning. So if you're a WNBA player,
and I believe me, I've coached the best and I've
pissed them off a lot, and they let me know
about it, but they were tremendously disrespected.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Okay, why that one grab your attention.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Because he's speaking, he's speaking from the inside, someone who's
done it, coached the greatest players on the planet Earth
for a long time, gold medals, championships, the whole nine yards,
all of it. And so he understands, number one, what
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it takes to make it to the league, to stay
in the league, and to be success in the league.
He also knows how talented and how hard those young
ladies have been working in this league for decades upon
decades before Caitlyn was even born. And so to heep,
and he's talking about their fan base because the fan
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base was literally like, oh, she's the savior. She's going
to do this and that for the WNBA. She and
it just wasn't realistic. So the more people shout that,
the more people listen, the more people believe it. And
then you start tuning into the games, and then you'll
be like, oh my god, they fouled her, Oh my god,
(22:38):
they hate her. Oh what's happening here? So it all
becomes connected and all starts to spiral, and he's speaking
to a larger point. Hey, relax, Let this young lady
go play basketball, be the best player she can be
by In no means did he or she or anybody
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who knows the sport could imagine Caitlin Clark coming in
and being the MVP of the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Like, what, well, I have a devil's advocate response in
just a moment.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
But you use those three letters MVP, And I went, oh,
you mean Steve to.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Say, yes, Steve MVP. Okay, that's what That's what I
thought you were talking about.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Good Emejeing, gentlemen, We've got actual scoring for the back
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Boston first nine minutes of the game fifteen points from
the starting guards Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving. Meanwhile, Boston
from three point ranges for seven. Celtics are at home
(23:55):
tonight for Game two. They won Game one at home
by eighteen points, led by twenty nine in the first half.
Boston and that opener had nine block shots. Dallas had
only nine assists as a team for the whole game.
Boston regular season at home had a record of thirty
seven and four. They'll hit the road this coming week.
Dallas is hosting games three and four of the series
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of three weekend series. Number one Tennessee at home leads
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Florida in thirteen innings eliminated Clemson eleven to ten. Tight
end Darren Waller told the Giants he is retiring. We've
got baseball of Dodgers at Yankees for the weekend, finishing
up the series. Tonight, the Dodgers have tied it. It's
two to two. In the bottom of the fifth. Tyler
(25:00):
Glass now is on the mound for La. Amazingly, the
Dodger offense had not scored a run with him on
the mound in his past thirty four innings on the
hill five starts plus today until Mookie Betts just hit
a tying two run double in the top of the fifth. Earlier,
Aaron Judge with an RBI double for the Yankees. Judge,
(25:21):
by the way, not doing too badly this year. Unfortunately,
he is missing Luis Soto again, out of the starting
lineup all three games of this series due to his injury.
The sore forearm. The MRI show just inflammation. Still, Judge
has fifty eight RBIs already. They've just ended the fifth inning.
Dodgers two, Yankees two Earlier, the Cubs won four to
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to one. Detroit's Trek Scooble is eight and one after
the Tigers beat Milwaukee ten to two in the London
game this morning, the Mets came back to beat Philadelphia
six to five, scoring three runs in the top of
the ninth. The lost closer Jose Alverado. The Angels beat
Houston closer Josh Hater with a two run homer Bottom
(26:05):
in the ninth, nine to seven. Ten innings wins for
Seattle on the road, for Toronto on the road, from
Minnesota on the road, and Boston won in ten innings
at the White Sox six to four, and finally to
the golf yet again an event and a Scotti Scheffler victory.
He led by four strokes to start the day, made
it interesting shooting a final round seventy four, but did
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take the Memorial by one over Colin Morikawa. This was
actually his highest closing round since the seventy four two
years ago at the Open Championship. But another w foro
him and another w in a big money what they
call signature event. He'd won at bay Hill and Hilton
Head as well. He won the Players Championship this year.
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He got a second green jacket at the Masters. This
guy is the first player since Tom Watson in nineteen
eighty to have won five times on the tour before
we even get to the US Open. And being a
signature event, can you guess the payout? It was equal
to a live golf event which took place in Houston
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this weekend. Four million dollars. For that means that Scottie
Scheffler this season is over the twenty four million mark
in earnings on the course.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
He set the record last year for a full season
at twenty one mil. Already, not yet mid June, he
has broken the record. As for the actual payouts farther down,
believe it or not, they were guaranteeing that every player
inside the top twenty at the Memorial was going to
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make a quarter million dollars, And in fact, a tie
for twentieth gets you about two hundred and sixty thousand
dollars at live golf. A tie for eighteenth got less
than that two thirty five. This is one Sunday where
we can actually say something about the pg Yeah, I
see you.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Guys, okay, well, and by the way, and any PGA
Tour player who thumbed their nose at Live Golf and
I understand why, but I don't think any of them
are going to give this money back.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
That is clearly in response to what.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Living is doing. Say thanks yeah, thanks Ve, oh and
thanks tyrack dot com studios. Isn't that interesting? I mean
it had become a Sunday tradition where Steve comes in
at the bottom of the hour and goes So somebody
won a PGA Tour event and they made forty seven dollars,
(28:44):
and then in a live event somebody finished in eighty
eighth place and they made a billion. Like that's what
it sounded like. That's what it sounds like every Sunday.
And then you you came in and.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
You're like, yeah, pretty even three occurve. And by the way,
this is what you guys just reference. This is what
competition does. This is why you have more with more
than one gas station in your neighborhood. This is why
you have more than one restaurant. Is competition raises the bar.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, it does monopolize it. So now they got to
really step up and they pay those purses and appearance fees,
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Man, you got to change it up.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
We can get back to Gino Orima here in just
a few, but I do want to reference at least
for a minute.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
And look, there's a.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Long way to go, and I could be right and
I could be wrong, but I had a big feeling
about the.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Over in tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Reason being so in game one, and this is a
very simplistic way to bet, but I'm a pretty simplistic better.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Game one, the total was one.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Hundred and ninety six points, right, one oh seven to
eighty nine, one hundred and ninety six points, and Luca
and Kyrie were terrible, and you figure that's not going
to continue. So maybe this is just a response to
people going, well, that's not going to happen again. But
the over under in tonight's game was two fifteen I'm
(30:14):
like points higher than what the total was in game one.
And when I see a discrepancy like that from I
lean into it. I go, you're telling me that you're
begging me to take the under, So I'm taking the over.
And then of course Luca came out. Luca's got like,
(30:35):
I don't know, thirteen to fifteen points already in this
game and we're still in the in the first quarter
with a minute a.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Half to go.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean you knew more points were going to
be scored, you would guess that Kyrie and Luca weren't
going to come out and have that, especially Kyrie have
that type of game that he had it.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
And so.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
It's a safe bet in a world of threes, both
of these teams put up an extreme amount of threes.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
That you take the over in that in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, that said, Boston's not hitting any of them yet, No,
but it'll it'll happen.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It'll happen.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Not tracking toward what we would call a high scoring
game yet, minute and a half to go, first quarter,
twenty two to twenty Dallas leads. But yes, I do
think that this is going to be a very different
looking game and they're going to boogie here pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I think we have some things to say about Luka Dancic,
even just watching him play in this game, that we
want to discuss. We'll do that at the top of
the hour. Coming up next, let's circle back to your
commentary on Gino Oriema's commentary because I've got a little
bit again Devil's Advocate response to what both he said
(31:57):
and what you said about he said. So that is
all coming up next. With E from Salam, Mark Willard.
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That is E from Salam. I'm Mark Willard.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, haven't our watch party checking it out? Game two
NBA Finals about to head into the second quarter here shortly,
much tighter game, much more watchable game.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
We'll be referencing it a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
But I do want to go back to where you
took the Caitlin Clark conversation based off of Gino Arima's comments,
and again this is all based on if you're just
joining us, so you've been kind of in a fog
this weekend. Caitlin Clark has left off the team USA
Olympic roster. The world is not going to take a
(33:02):
deep dive on this and fully understand why. They're just
going to go crazy. And there's been some outrage and
commentary with regard to her being left off, which was
actually not a huge surprise to those who were following along.
But anyway, here's Gino's comment about the whole Caitlyn Clark situation.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
I think you and I both know the landscape that
we live in today, both sports wise and nonsports wise. Right,
we are in a red blue and if you're red,
you can't agree with blue, and if you're blue, you
can't agree with red, Whereas most things are in the middle.
If you're a college player, and you're a great college player,
like Caitlyn was, the delusional fan base that follows her
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disrespected the WNBA players by saying she's going to go
in that league and tear it apart. There were actually
odds like she's third or fourth embedding odds of being
MVP to WNBA. These people are so disrespect and so
unknowledgeable and so stupid that it gives women's basketball a
bad name. Okay, so the kid was set up for failure.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Right from the beginning.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
So if you're a WNBA player, and I believe me,
I've coached the best and I've pissed them off a lot,
and they let me know about it, but they were
tremendously disrespect.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, now, only disagree from with anything that he just said.
What I can say, though, is sometimes that's just the
way the world works like Geno's essentially saying he's calling
on fans that are brand new to women's basketball and
calling them stupid, and I would be like, of course
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they are, Geno, they just got here. And in the
world of entertainment, I don't think it usually works very
well for the entertainer to welcome the audience in by
going you better be knowledgeable about how we're going to
entertain you, or else we would like to reject you
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and eject you out from our fraternity. Like you know
what I mean, Like, there's no there's no way to
concoct the way that an audience reacts to an entertainment.
The world was not disrespectful to the w NBA establishment.
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I hate to break into, Geno. There was no WNBA establishment.
This is the establishment of the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
No, no understand me. For a lot For a lot
of people, this is their first day in school. Okay,
for some people.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Can't tell them to understand math when they just sat
down at kindergarten on the first day.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yeah, but the thing you can't do is then talk
about math like you've been watching our knowing math and
understanding math this whole time, and.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
That it's sports worth. But that's a problem though, Like, but.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
That's like they're talking about it, like on CNN and
on like it's just like wait what, like well, no,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
It's betting on m VP odds on.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
All the things that have happened, the hard fouls and
look at this screen? Is this too much? And outside
of the one by Kennedy, uh you know, which was
bush yep yep.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
You know they want to point out every time she's,
oh my god, look at the screen they set on her.
Don't you can't do that. It's it's like going into
that messame math class, not having it, not taking math prior,
and be like, well, why is the decimal there? I mean,
I can't believe they put adjucimal after the third digchit
like this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Okay, but you from it's sports and it's barbershop. It's
never like I hate to do this because we do this.
It's never been smart of the board. It's I'm sorry,
every barber shop in America. I hate to tell you.
It's not smart. It's not it's it's it's passionate. It's awesome,
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but I ain't going.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
There to be like, tell me what's actually going on.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I'm going there because it's funny and it's fun and
people are denigrating one another, hopefully in a week wink wink,
kind of a way, the way friends are with one another.
It's not supposed to be like all correct, it's sports.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
It's sports. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, you mean okay, That's all I'm getting now here,
He's like, you, do you know what I mean? Like,
there is I think a fair pushback if you want
to say, if you want to be from the side
and go look, w NBA has been going on for years,
don't disrespect these players. There is again to that yang
to say, these people have never been here for and
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you would like them to stay, so please don't thumb
your nose at their uneducated arrival.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
That's all I'm getting, Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I look and do you know, yeah, we can fight
about it. And it sounds like you want to fight
a little basing your voice. It's passionate. I just think,
you know, just doing a disservice to to the to
the women who built the w n b A and
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the ones who are currently keeping it going. And he
said also he said, uh, I think it was him
or somebody you know, had mentioned that. You know, everybody
has said like, this rookie class is the savior of
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of the w n b A, and people are like,
it's not even the best rookie class.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
What are you talking about right? Right, Well, it's not
a savior because it's not like in danger of dying, right,
it's going to be there. It certainly could take it
to a new level, though.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
You hop if everybody you know does what they're supposed
to do and elevates their team. Indiana Fever just happened
to be a really bad team, and Caitlin scored thirty
against a team that was worse than them, which was
hard to do, and they pulled out a two point
victory against the team it was oh and eleven.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
So you get this. You get this again, mister Hollywood
over here.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
You get this.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
The audience likes what the audience likes, and you don't.
You're not I'm not gonna say you don't get you
You're not smart to tell them they're supposed to like
it a different way.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
That's true. Consume it the way you wish exactly. Just
talk about it. If it's wrong, well.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Consume it. But when you go home, no talking, no talking,
be quiet, don't don't. Don't tell your friends. That's all
I'm getting at. Man, Like I get it. If I
had been in the wa if I was Diana Tarazzi,
this whole thing would tick me the hell off for sure.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
That's like if you well, we'll talk about it on
the top. I was gonna get into a whole nother soliloquy,
but we'll do it next hour.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Okay, we'll do it next hour. We also need to
talk about Luka Doncic.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I know a lot of people that have just kind
of had it up to here with the he is
the least watchable star.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
In the NBA. Uh, we can get into that.
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think there's more to say, obviously on the Caitlin Clark
situation from I know you weren't done.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
We'll get back to it in a sec.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I do want to ask you about the experience of
watching Luka Doncic's play basketball.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
What are your when I say that, What are your
immediate thoughts in terms of the experience of watching it?
Speaker 4 (41:31):
I think of a showman, right, So if okay, someone
where it'll be like, hey, have you ever seen Luca play?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
It? Would you know? It would.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Initially have me thinking like, oh, this is mussy TV, right,
Like when someone came up to me was like, yo,
have you ever seen Magic Johnson play?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Mm hmm?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Or have you seen this kid named Kobe in high school?
Or this kid named Lebron? Have you ever seen this
kid named Lebron in high school? Or any of the greats.
So when you say have you ever seen Luca play?
I'm thinking, oh, okay, I must tune in for this.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
So are you now?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I want to make sure I'm understanding you correct. You're
putting that name on that level.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
I think that name could get to that level. I
mean it is clear just watching him oversea, watching him
play overseas as a seventeen year old. Eighteen year old kid.
You were like, oh, oh he's Oh, this is different.
This is a kid out here destroying men. I'm talking
about bodying them. But like back then, he was even dunking,
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he was even Duncan over there. But his body control
is very slow and very You can't speed him up right,
and that's a talent in itself, Like you can't make
him do something he doesn't want to do.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Okay, you answered that in a maybe a very Ephraim
Salaam way of answering it. And here's what I mean
by that, And this is well established on this show.
You love this game. I love it. You love this game.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And so therefore those finer points, the intricacies of basketball
are not lost on you. And I appreciate the heck
out of.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
That that maybe there are a lot more casual viewers
out there who find him difficult to watch, because it's
not because he's not good. But you know where I'm
going next. There's two things. There's two things. First of all,
the man is complaining every constantly, every play, every play.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
And then secondarily, i'd also sort of ask, you know,
while we're having a conversation about asking WNBA viewers basically
to watch the game the right way, well, does Luca
play it the right way? Because I would be less
turned off by someone who complained to the refs a lot,
(44:13):
because there are a lot of guys who complain to
the refs a lot. But I'd be less turned off
by someone who does that if that same person wasn't
also basically playing tittley winks with the defender every single
time he has the ball in order to get the
ref to be fooled. Like he is a master at.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Doing little things with the ball offensively.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Giving a forward shoulder shove and then getting his arm
in the right way.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
So that it'll get hit.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
He's a master of all of those little things, which
I find those two things put together to be very
difficult to watch sometimes, which is I can fool the ref,
but then I'm also mad at the ref all the
time when the ref gets fooled, Like it just it
feels like I'm watching a hypocritical basketball star.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
It's like a presidential debate.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Right, It's like, you can't you can't be mad at
the refs all the time when the refs are very
often being fooled in your favor.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yeah, but that's you know, that's the brand of basketball.
He grew up playing. A lot of complaining, a lot
of flopping was synonymous with overseas basketball, and so it's
you know, it's been invading the you know, the rules change.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
The rule changes have have lent to.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
The the elements of the complaining, complaining, complaining, because even
minimal cunt now they have this new thing. They they've
readjusted how they call fout. Minimal contact is a thing now.
If it's minimal contact, then it's not right. Like no
one understands or knows what that means. But you hear
him say it a lot when they're reviewing the call
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and they don't overturn it. Minimum contact. I will tell
you one thing that Luca doesn't have, and it drives
me crazy. He has zero lateral quickness when it comes
to playing defense. So if you get him rocking one
way and come back the other way, he is done.
Reminds well, at least he actually tries. It reminds me
(46:24):
of another.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Great score, James Harden. But he didn't.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
He didn't even really try to play defense. He was
just like, I'm just gonna save it all for offense.
But yeah, the complaining and in last series, he had
a couple of games where they had really talked to
him about just focusing on the games, and he had
he had great basketball games. Right, you use less energy
focusing on complaining and crying. But it's just if I
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was a if I was a casual fan of the NBA,
that would drive me crazy. Yes, I would be like,
come on, like, just play bro right, just play.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
It's also funny that if you're bothered by his defense, now,
what are you going to be ten years from now?
Because right stars late in their career ten two defense, Yeah,
they get well, they start they start caring less slash,
They just can't you know what I mean. Look at Lebron.
Lebron was an amazing defender, but like we're asking something. Yeah,
(47:35):
we're asking somebody at age thirty nine to still play
the way he does. You're not going to be able
to go all out both ends of the floor all
the time. I think the most forgettable thing in all
of the NBA right now is that Luca is only
twenty five years old. Yeah he looks thirty four. He
looks thirty four. He plays forty four. Yes he's he's
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twenty five. He's twenty five years old. I mean that
is a baby.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
You built like a ups worker. Yes, he is. He's
definitely built.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Like if you showed up at your house, man, that
actually you're making me think about content right now. You
could do some things with Luca if you trust him.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
You did market him to be it could be amazing.
Oh my god, if.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
The Amazon truck pulled up at your house and Luca
got out in just a blue polo and jeans and
put something at your door and took a picture of
it with an iPad, would anybody recognize him? No?
Speaker 4 (48:47):
What the fact that he's six well, it's hard to
hide at sixty nine. I don't care what type of
wig you have on.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
He notts six nine.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
He's listed at six seven, yeah, because he doesn't want
to be Yeah, he doesn't want to be sixty nine.
Guards don't want to be bigger. It's interesting though, man.
And like Katie doesn't want to be listed at seven feet, yeah,
he's seven pete right, like he doesn't want to Anthony
Davis doesn't want to be listed at seven feet. He's
(49:21):
seven pete right, like they once you get he's like,
you know, six eleven right, right, It does there's.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
A little stigment to the basket you seven foot no.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
I tell you, though, this series is going to say
a lot in terms of the star and where the
profile goes. And I'm mainly talking about Luka Doncic and
I'm talking about I'm talking about Jason Tatum, who's only
twenty six and just turned twenty six not too long ago.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
So these guys are young stars.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
And you know, Jason's been here before and it's largely
been disappointing. Luca's profile just in being here has gotten
to be bigger, and I do know a lot of
people that are like, man, he's great, but he's also
annoying to watch play basketball. This series determines so much
on the profile of these two players because I think
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both of them they're both a's, but I also think
they're both as far as branding across the NBA, they're
both still kind of a minus B plus guys. No
one's reaching the Steph Lebron Jannis yet kind of of
a level.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yet. I think the winner of this series might The
problem is.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
If the Celtics win, then Jalen Brown is probably going
to be the the finals MVP, Like that's what you
can't happen. That's what you don't want to happen, like
a young rising star when you're considered the face of
the team somebody else. That was the problem with Steph.
With Steph, that was the problem with Steph. That was
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that was like, oh, well, yeah, you got the league MVP,
but you couldn't even be the finals MVP. M all right,
somebody who came off the bench and start at midway
through the season the series got the finals MVP. So
that's that's the draw that's the drawback, Like if Jalen
continues to go out, because he clearly him and Porzingis
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were clearly the MVPs of Game one.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Well and so far as they reach halftime with the
Celtics up three, the MVP tonight is Drew Holliday.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Yes, he's got seventeen.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Let's talk about Tatum coming up next, because my man
is two for ten. He's two for ten and he's
zero for three from beyond the arc and he had points.
So let's talk about it. Because I said this before
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the series, nobody's got more on the line than Jason
Tatum in this series, nobody has it. And he has
got five points after again, it didn't matter as much
when you get a big victory in game one. But yeah,
it's been underwhelming so far and that has largely been
(52:30):
the case for him in a lot of his big games.
So we can dive further into that coming up next
with e from salam Mark Whether this is Fox Sports Radio,
so it's the Tyreck dot Com Studios. We'll get back
to Caitlin Clark. I haven't even asked you about the
as the world turns with the Lakers head coaching search.
(52:52):
Good God, we'll get into all of it. But here's
one thing I've been confronted with quite a bit hosting
radio in the San Francisco Bay Area. Kyle Shanahan and
the forty nine ers get largely branded based on what
has happened in two football games. Two doesn't mean that
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they get to escape criticism. But sometimes I find it
interesting in sports, specially football, where there is no series,
so best of seven, you go play a game and
it's like you could be good all year, and then
you every time you go to the playoffs, you're good
in the playoffs, and you win this huge game, and
(53:40):
you win that huge game, and then you win this
huge game over there, and then you go to the
super Bowl. Then you're leading the whole way, and then
like an all time great quarterback rallies and beats you,
and everyone's like, choker, can't win the big One, And
you're like, well.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
What the hell were all of those other games? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (54:04):
And I know you and I have talked so much
about Kyle, So I have a hard time when people
get branded based on an incredibly small sample, especially when
that person's larger sample tells a completely different story. I
have a hard time with that sometimes. So let's talk
(54:25):
about Jason Tatum, because unfortunately for him, the sample size
is starting to not be very small. What do you
think about Jason in Big Games? I think number one,
I think he's a tremendous talent. We saw that early
on his rookie year and every year since. But in
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order to cross over that threshold big games is where
you where that comes from?
Speaker 4 (54:59):
If not, then you just be James Harden. Are you know,
Paul George are any of the other beyond talented players
who couldn't quite get.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Over that hump? Right?
Speaker 4 (55:20):
You become extremely talented, but that's it, and then year
after year after year of that becomes your legacy in
who you are, which sucks because you think.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
Michael Jordan scored sixty three in the Garden against Bird
in the Celtics in the playoffs and lost, right right right,
Like this is young Mike, very young Mike. Yes, if
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he wins and wins a championship, there you want to
talk about he Look, he came back from that and
still became the greatest to ever play. Imagine if he
wins right then and there, that young doing what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (56:30):
So, Jason Tatum came into the league and was phenomenal
his rookie year. Everybody was like whoa. And then make
it to the conference finals and everybody's like, oh my god.
And the next year good and good, and the Kyrie
experiment happened set him back a little bit. But he's
been that type of player for the last five years,
(56:52):
six years with no wins. So now it's like, oh, okay,
well he's a great player, right, but he's not great
enough to get us over the hump, right, Like, if
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you have to score sixty in a game seven or
an elimination game, then that's what you do.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
That's what you do.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
And for some it look everybody's not built like that,
no matter how much talent you have. Now, when we
talk about the all time greats, these guys were affecting
the court on both sides too. It just mind you.
Jordan will lock you up and drop sixty on you.
Colby'll lock you up and drop sixty on you. So
(57:51):
just keep that in mind when we talk about being
great and you know, all of those things, like he
still has a little bit of little ways to go,
but the talent is there. Can he take that next step?
(58:13):
Can he take that next step? Can he close it
out in an elimination game? Can he go bonkers? I'm
talking about bonkers where everybody's like, oh wow, okay, well
yes he's ready, because until you do that, then you're
not ready just a good player. And it's frustrating because
we see him go bonkers at different points of the
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year and you know, Game one's two threes, like we
need it when it counts, right, Lebron got over the
hump of the Celtics because he just went ham on
them in an elimination game, right like it was just like,
oh well, it was nothing we can do? Was it
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was nothing? It was nothing we could we could have
done there, right, like you will your team to win
no matter what, and then Celtas have the better team.
Not a lot of willing needed to be done, been
the best team the whole time. And all the stars again.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
Yep, yep, all over the place. Everybody in their starting
five has been an All Star except for White.
Speaker 4 (59:24):
So you know, with a situation where it is either now,
people get up.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Well, I mean, look, this guy's a career fifty three
point three percent.
Speaker 4 (59:43):
From the field massacred, I mean massive massive, Yes he's
like that.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
Well, actually that's that's a efficiency field goal percentage.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
But but I overstated it there.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
He's a forty six percent all told, all shooting six per.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Half percent from three point range.
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
When he goes to the playoffs, those numbers go down,
like they go down in ways that you can feel them.
Forty six to forty four, thirty seven and a half
to thirty five. It's not overwhelming, But you're talking about
someone who, at age twenty six, has played in a
truckload of playoff games already truckload, an absolute load of
(01:00:24):
playoff games.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
What to show.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
He has played in twenty playoff series already series not
games series in his career, and so we are well
out of what I would call a small sample size.
Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
We're now in a large sample size.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
And now we're in this is who you are. Well yep, yeah,
no more sampling. If you order Jason Tatum, this is
what you're gonna get. There's no more sampling.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
So that I'm not gonna use the word choker.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I'm not gonna like it's people have not that right, right,
But he is a lesser player, Yeah, because lesser player.
Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
And man, even if they win it and someone else
other than him, is it finals, MVP the same thing.
You're in the same boat. You're in the same boat.
So you know, Jaylen Brown, I don't care nothing about that.
(01:01:30):
He like, I'm going to get mine, man.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
That's you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Like, one thing that I noticed between the two Jalen
is just he's a head down, just go kind of
a person. Tatum has openly spoken about this, and I
don't think it's helped him to be honest with you.
He's openly spoken about how I want to be remembered,
(01:01:56):
like x y Z, I want to channel Brian. Yeah,
you got to stay away from that type of stuff.
It's all in Celtics Jersey. It's already a weird thing today.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
But when you say it out loud, it also it
puts it's not only that it puts more pressure on you.
Ephrom I don't think it's kind of like what Anthony
Edwards did this.
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
This playoff season. Oh I'm I'm Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Okay, if you are the fact that you need to
say it out loud, it's what it feels like. I
don't know these guys. It feels to me like you're
trying to convince yourself. Yeah, because the rest of us,
the rest of us don't really care what you say.
We're gonna see it. It's either gonna happen or it's not.
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And so when you start talking about it all the time,
as opposed to just doing it, it feels like insecurity.
Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
To me, you know, having a neighborhood, like don't talk
me to death. There you go, right, you ain't got
talk about it. Be a body, I mean unless your
name Steve de Sayer and then.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
All you want because when you speak, people listen the
way it is.
Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
Let's up date NBA Finals Game two, Gentlemen at one
seed Boston. The Celtics lead Dallas sixty two to fifty seven.
Jason Tatum was two of ten shooting from the floor
in the first half. Did have eight assists, but that
was his worst shooting in a first half of any
game all season. Meanwhile, Luka Donsich with twenty three points
in the first half, most in the first half of
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any Finals game since Steph Curry five years ago. Donsich
ten of fourteen shooting from the floor, now twenty five points.
As we have eight and a half minutes to go
third quarter, the Celtics lead is sixty two to fifty
nine over Dallas. It was pretty easily a Celtics win
in Game one at home. They'll be on the road
at Dallas for games three and four. That'll be Wednesday
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and Friday nights. Stanley Cup Game two is tomorrow night.
Edmonton at Florida Panthers took the opener three to nothing.
Last night, Carlos Alcarez won the French Open in five sets,
six to two in the third. At College Baseball Super Regionals,
Evansville is playing tonight at number one Tennessee. It's the
Balls twelve one in the lead. In the top of
the seventh Florida in thirteen innings eliminated Clemson eleven to ten.
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Scottie Scheffler won the Memorial, his fifth victory of the season.
The livgolf winner in Houston was Carlos Ortiz by one
stroke tight end. Darren Waller told the Giants he is retiring.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 7 (01:04:35):
We've got football on Fox TV going tonight because this
weekend is the conference finals in the UFL. Birmingham won
in a comeback yesterday thirty one eighteen against Michigan. Saint Louis,
which is getting the great attendance in this league, is
hosting San Antonio tonight in the other conference final, and
Saint Louis is trailing at home twenty two to fifteen
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to the San Antonio Bramas. It is, by the way,
next in Saint Louis, the championship game will be held.
NASCAR victory for Kyle Larson at Sonoma, the road course
to Major League Baseball. Yankees are hosting the Dodgers this
weekend and the Yanks are holding on to a five
to four lead over LA right now. The game's in
the top of the eighth. Trent Grisham a three run
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homer in the sixth to take the lead. In London,
met six five winners at Philadelphia with three runs in
the top of the ninth. Attendance was fifty five thousand
as west Ham United Stadium in London was reconfigured for
MLB this weekend. Minnesota in ten innings, one at Pittsburgh
eleven to five, Boston and ten innings one at the
White Sox six to four, Seattle in ten innings, one
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at Kansas City six to five, and Toronto in ten
innings won six ' four at Oakland. The Angels beat
Houston and closer Josh Hayter nine to seven on a
two run homer in the bottom of the ninth. Wins
for Arizona and Saint Louis as well and guys. The
LPGA Tour winner, well, let's just say she wasn't probably
in the conversation of who's going to take it today
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because she overcame a seven shot deficit to win on today.
Linnea Strom from Sweden shot a final round sixty to
get the victory. This was a three round event in
New Jersey. She had missed the cut in five of
her last six events, barely made the cut on the
number this weekend she had played at Arizona State, and
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here gets an LBGA Tour victory after starting the day
tied for fifty second place, what by far the biggest
comeback by position on that tour since nineteen eighty four,
and in fact, the lowest final round score by an
LPGA Tour winner. Ever, how much you win, Yeah, I
gotta looked at it at eight four mil let's put
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it that way back to you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
So the L in LPGA does not stand for live,
is what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Lucrative?
Speaker 7 (01:06:55):
Yeah, yeah, although kind of like live. It was a
three day event.
Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Well that's good. A sixty Wow?
Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Lord who unconscious right there? Yeah, that's like you you're
in a zone. You're not talking anybody. You don't hear
to Caddy.
Speaker 7 (01:07:12):
You just like, just for the record, remember we were saying,
I looked it up a last hour. We were saying,
the guys at the two men's events, you finished top twenty,
you get a quarter million dollars. Yeah, the winner got
about a quarter million dollars today.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I was just looking at the yearly money list on
the LPGA.
Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
So actually, let's have some fun since I'm looking at it,
and Steve, you might be looking at it. But Eve
from so Nellie Korda, who has won like a just
she's played ridiculous golf. So almost every tournament, yeah she played,
she wins. It's it's ridiculous. She is number one on
the money list in nine tournaments played. And Steve, how
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many wins is it in the nine tournaments that she's.
Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Played five or six? I think it was.
Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yeah, I think you're right, So that's what I was thinking.
Five wins out of nine events. What do you think
her annual money is at this point?
Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
A million dollars?
Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
No, it's not that sad three it is, it's almost three.
But she has yet to reach three million dollars after
five wins.
Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Scotty Scheffler won four today and Scotty's won four today.
Speaker 7 (01:08:24):
He's over twenty four million for the year, already breaking
his record set last year in a full season.
Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
So in other words, the LPGA is like, will take
Caitlin Clark if you guys don't want her.
Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
She wants to play golf. We're open to that.
Speaker 7 (01:08:40):
So are we going to have a conversation? WNBA Salary's
LPGA winnings. It's kind of the same thing, right.
Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I mean, if there's an LPGA player that suddenly grabs
America's attention, then yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:08:52):
And that has happened in the past, by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
In the past, but it was more maybe even more,
thank you. You know, there was the Onica Sorenstams. But
the one that we thought was going to grab everyone's
attention was Michelle wi Yes, who's finished with golf, who's retired.
Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
There's not enough money in it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Right, speaking of retired, I'm worried about Darren Waller. Anybody else,
everybody else just worried for the worried about the person
Darren Waller.
Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I am right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I mean this is like do you want to talk
about having it written all over your face and neon
signs and the alarms are all going off with regard
to mental health. Darren Waller's thirty one, and for those
who don't know his backstory, and I mean going on
the way back prior to when he popped with the Raiders,
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Darren had a lot of problems, a lot of substance
abuse problems, and then he got things going in the
right direction, started playing great football and then moved on
to the Giants and injuries took over and he's married
to Kelsey Plumb, the w NBA star from just a
(01:10:11):
year ago was correct now divorced, and I think that.
And then the rap song came out and was all
over the internet, and it was the minute you saw it,
you're like, oh, oh boy, this is not this isn't good.
Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
So in a way, I don't know how you read it.
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
He like as Glad, like I said three weeks ago,
I go, this guy's going to retire. The minute I
saw the video, I'm like, he's going to retire, and
he did. I'm trying to figure out if that's a
good thing or a bad thing. I feel like it's
a good thing. But if he loses his lady and
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his livelihood all at the same time, I think there's
a healthy level of concern there.
Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Yeah, it is, because that's that's a lot to deal with.
One would think if he would, you know, getting divorced
and stayed in at least to be with the guys
doing something he loves. But to have both of those
things snatched away like that, that's tough for anybody, let
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alone and recovering addict. So yeah, prayers out, man, What
I I did something not to change the subject. But
I did something this weekend I don't normally do, so
that I'm invested into it now. Yeah, wa watched every
second of this Dodge Dodgers Yankees game.
Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Different, isn't it? All three games? It's different today. What
I've learned is use your probably not pitched to Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Yeah, when Giants came away with you, exact same impression
last weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Now when he's feeling like he's feeling today, yesterday, he today, I.
Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Wonder, Yes, it's been like two weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Yeah, but I'm just they had his number the first game,
you know, with nobody could hit. I mean, it was
just a picture's duel right until the eleventh. But I've
been thoroughly entertained by this series. Could you imagine if
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this was a preview to the World Series.
Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Well, I threw it out to you last week, and
I've got friends who are are not Dodger or Yankee
fans who have texted me just within the last hour
and they're like, I can't turn this off.
Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
I can't, I can't do it. They're like, I, I'm
not even going to watch the NBA Finals tonight. I
can't turn this.
Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Off like, I'm like, I taped the games and came
home and watch them. Like, my wife was like, what
are you doing? I was like, I'm watching the Dodger game.
She said, what you said? Excuse me? She said, say
what now? And look, I am in it. I love it.
(01:13:23):
It's amazing. Yeah, it's entertaining. I love the pitch clock.
Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Okay, let's get I gotta challenge you on this. Not
whether you like it or not, that's up to you.
I want to.
Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Challenge you on about the Dodgers and the Yankees. Yes,
we're live in.
Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
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Fox Sports Radio. Okay, y'all live inthe Tirec dot com
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(01:14:03):
haven't even gotten to the Lakers head coaching thing yet.
I bet you have something to say. We could save
that for the top of the hour though, if you
want sure. I mean, we're going through a lot. Just
a second ago and I almost lost my train of thought.
We were talking Caitlyn Clark, we were talking Darren Waller.
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What were we just talking about? You had something? You
had something juicy and and and I just forgot.
Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
I was talking about the Dodgers and the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Thank you, thank you. You're jogging my memory. Okay, So
I said I was going to challenge you on something.
Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
That's it, all right. You're telling me how much you
love this, and I get it. This is branding.
Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
It's no different than conversation that we had two hours
ago about Gino Ariy. I'm a kind of wagging his
finger at Caitlin Clark fans. It's like you can't tell
people what they like and what they want to see.
And sometimes we don't even know why. Why does the
Dodgers and Yankees look different? I mean it's history, so
(01:15:13):
those of us we are old enough to remember some history. Great,
but why do the Dodgers and Yankees look different to
an eleven year old? And I know the answer right now.
The answer right now is the two largest human beings
who have ever played in the history of this sport, Dawn,
those two jerseys. No one's not showing up for show. Hey,
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versus Aaron Judge. I had a buddy text me this
morning and he's reading some article on fan sided or
something like that, and he's a San Francisco Giants fan
and this article is all about how a trade between
the Yankees and the Giants could make the New York
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Yankees absolutely unstoppable. They cannot be beat if they can
just acquire third baseman Matt Chapman from from the San
Francisco Giants. And he's kind of bothered because he's like, uh, dude,
(01:16:18):
we're in a playoff spot right now too.
Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
We don't have that good of a record.
Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
But why, like, what what is this article? And I said,
first of all, fan sided just means somebody has a computer.
So that's great. It's an I'm not dissing it, but
it's an article. That's just it's fan sided. That's what
it's called. So don't get triggered by that. But you
(01:16:43):
know where I'm going here, which is to say that
anything Dodgers and Yankees related feels so expectant, as if
there's a birthright to all of the good players in
these two jury. And while that is wonderful, the one
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time out of two years that the two teams play
in an interleague series like they are now, I do
think there's a conversation to be had with regard to
the way baseball has sort of like the way the
cookie has crumbled, the way this has all fallen out,
because as you said, Dodgers versus Yankees World Series would
(01:17:25):
be amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Ef from your right, what if we don't get that?
Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Is there any other series that would interest you? No,
that's a problem because as I sit here today, I
know that they are probably the respective best teams in
each league. Apologies to the Phillies, but I got you.
They're probably the best. They're certainly the most watched teams
(01:17:52):
in the two leagues. But if I said to you, Okay,
let's bet you get Dodgers and Yankees, I get the field.
Any other matchup, even if it's only one of those
teams I win, I'm the favorite, it is much more
likely that this matchup does not happen than it does.
Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
True. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
You know, I know people get frustrated by the NFL model, but.
Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Makes sense. Sometimes spread it out a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Yeah, it makes sense, but it's you know, we got us,
you know, top of a knife, top.
Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Of the knife. Oh, moviie bets at the plate two
on two outs.
Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Like the fact that I'm sitting here watching the Celtics
play the MAVs and you're watching baseball my head's exploding
bizarro world.
Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
And just to be clear, I'm watching both. But yes,
I know you are. I know you are.
Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
This is it, This is this is big ten. This
is what people want to see. Hit this thing out
the park. Moki, Well, I'm in it, look.
Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
So in it. You can't even answer my question.
Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
I don't even remember what you say it. I know
that I have a problem with that. What did you say?
Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
I said, would it make sense for baseball to spread
it out a little bit?
Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
What is what we want? We don't care nothing about
all that other foolishness.
Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Yeah, except for what you want is probably not gonna happen.
It should it should happen. Nah, there's no shoot in baseball.
I mean, the Dodgers have been due through all of
this dominance and all of these winnings of the division.
Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
They have been to.
Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
One sort of World Series that okay, okay, you're right,
they've been to one that mattered, and they blew it.
Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Come on, Moki, even if the other team was cheating,
they still come on.
Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
You guys want to mark this down. This was the
night that he got distracted by baseball.
Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Oh, I'd have never thought you would do this. Show.
Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
He's all right, all right, fine, what if I yet,
Lakers head coach? Would you pay attention? So impressionable? You know,
I mean, I get it if if everybody we're talking
about it's just kids, but normally adults aren't this impressionable?
(01:20:41):
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I'm not trying to bring the heat right now. I'm
really not e from The Lakers are one of the
(01:21:04):
great brands, one of the great organizations in the history
of sports in this country. I acknowledge that. I fully
understand that. I also think you fans can be really funny.
Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Something you can be Can you laugh at yourself? Please?
Just please? Of course you got it? Please, because you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
The whole this comes from the whole hashtag future Laker thing. Oh,
it comes from It comes from the expectant, entitled nature
of if anyone's good, well then there ares and what
I've noticed about Laker fans is you can largely be
convinced of almost anything, anything.
Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
And it's hysterical.
Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
So Darvin Ham's fired and everyone's like, yeah, I knew it,
That's the way it should be. And then it's quiet
for a second. And the first story that comes up
for the offseason is I think the Lakers are going
to draft a player in the second round who's nowhere
near good enough to be in the NBA, but that's
(01:22:18):
the plan, and everyone's like, you, damn right, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
That makes some great sense. I don't care for the
guy that we're trying to keep his forty. I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
And the next thing that happens, people go, so, I
think that the Lakers are going to hire Lebron's podcast
partner to be the head coach, and everyone's like, I
think he's just like coach k.
Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
In fact, he's a young pat Riley.
Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Who said that everybody google JJ Reddick and pat Riley
you'll see articles everywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
I think I think he could be the next.
Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
I think it makes all the sense in the world.
Bob absolutely doesn't matter that all he's been doing is
podcasting for the last five years. He hit a three
he used to be able to hit a three, and
he talks to Lebron all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
I think that's oozed off of Lebron. Yep, that's the
guy for us.
Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Then it turns out it was probably at rob link
of smokescreen the whole time. WOJ comes out and goes
Dan Hurley. Okay, very respected college coach. I know you
know all about this, having faced your San Diego State
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team twice in.
Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
The last two right, and he's.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Got a vibe and now all of these things. This
is nothing against Dan Hurley, but the Laker fan that
I used to know, if you had said, all right,
we need a new coach.
Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
We're looking at a college guy in a podcast host,
what do you think.
Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Would have been like, what the hell are you talking about?
We go get the krem de la crem in this country,
we go, we go to the other NBA team that
loves their coach, and we take him because we're the Lakers.
You guys have all reached this point now where we
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could convince you anything. I could tell you tomorrow that
WOD says Ronald McDonald's going to be the next head coach,
and you guys would be like, welly, where's yellow. It's
crazy what's happened? Just the Internet has taken Laker fandom
and absolutely drives it now.
Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
And I like, come on, man, you guys aren't that
I'm not even that.
Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
He may be a great coach, but it's it feels
so like, uh, I'm sorry, it feels so desperate.
Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
It is desperate, thank you. It's bitting it, of course.
I mean, hey man, we're still paying too other coaches
they don't even coach no more.
Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
Of course it's desperate. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
The leader of our team is three thousand years old.
We're watching our mortal rivalries in the final, having a
chance to go up one championship on us. Yeah, it's desperate.
What did you think it was? Thought it was okay?
Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
No, no, it's not about being okay. But I would
have felt like what happened to the days when the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Pore drafts, poor free agents, all of it. It's just
been awful. So we are desperate. We are looking for
that person to come in and write the ship. And yes,
look they've tried it the other way. They've got seasoned coaches,
they've got coaches who've won Coach Up the year, they've
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done all of those things so much to the point
where they almost hired a podcaster. They're trying to figure
out the puzzle, and you know, look, I just want
to coach. Who can coach, who will make an adjustment,
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who will drop a play, who will know what lineup
to put in the game. That's not too hard to ask,
is it.
Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
I don't think so. So that's that's all I want.
Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
So Yeah, if it's Dan Hurley, absolutely, I think he's
a phenomenal coach.
Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
I've watched him destroy us two years in a row. Yeah. No,
he's a fantastic coach.
Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Which, by the way, I'd like to remind everything everyone
means nothing with regard to what would happen if he
coaches the Lakers. Sorry, it doesn't mean he's not a
great coach.
Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
But we watch this a lot. Somebody becomes the Bee's.
Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Knees and they immediately you know what I mean, Like
someone makes the tournament from uh, Florida Atlantic or whatever.
You make the tournament, you win two games, all of
a sudden, Michigan State or Michigan's calling you. It's like,
I mean, maybe that'll work, or maybe their guys just
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got hot for a weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
Yeah, he's a good coach, man.
Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
He They come from basketball family like this is the
dad was the coach that brothers the player's pedigree.
Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
There, But the NBA is a different different makers are
a different animal, even within the NBA. Yeah, I know,
you got, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
It's a lot, and don't take in four games just
I mean, it can't be any worse than what we've
been we've we've been turning on. So at this point,
let's roll the dice. Let's not go dust somebody off
the heap or somebody off the third seat of someone's bench.
Let's say, Look, let's a winning coach and on any level,
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that's all I want.
Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
So what do you think.
Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
I think he'd be a great hire. Okay, I think
he'd be a great higher. I think they'd run plays.
I think the rotation would be better. I think they'd
be better defensively. Do you know how hard it is
for a great player to listen to somebody who you
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used to dunk into the rim? Well, I'm saying, I'm
just saying, if you're my coach and I used to
score forty on you, I'm like, okay, man, we start
off on the wrong foot, I guess because I'm like,
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it's nothing you can tell me.
Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Derek White, woof, he's so underrated. I'm glad you're I'm
glad you're watching the NBA again. A right, welcome back movie,
struck out? Come on?
Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Yeah, yeah, Mookie, I just uh I remember a day
or actually sort of feel like we're still there. You know,
you talk about are you gonna listen to somebody who
used to dunk on? I don't know, man, if you're
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an NBA star, you canna listen to anybody. Yeah, person
in your respect Lebron and Anthony Davis, like what happened?
Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Just know, it's not even about that. It's like, can
you it's not even about coaching once you get to
a certain like look my tenth year in the league
after starting ten years like we didn't he didn't coach
me the same way, but the level of respect from
both it's there.
Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Right. If I did something wrong, it wasn't a what
are you doing? Come on?
Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
No, I'm not responding to that, but what it would
be is like, hey, on this play, like what are
we thinking here? And then I gotta be honest with myself.
Look at you know this that and I'm tired or whatever.
Whatever happened. He was like, all right, well let's just
try to focus in. But it's a different level. It's
(01:30:29):
a respect thing, right, It's not about the actual coaching.
It's about the scenarios right, when to challenge, when to
call a time out, what lineup to put in right?
Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
What plays are we.
Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Calling outside of the time out? If they're on a run,
what do you do? It's all of those things that
garner respect. And if you can't get the respect of
the players because you're not doing what you're supposed to
do there, then yeah, it's gonna be what it's gonna be.
I was at the game, don't watching. I'm like, so nothing,
(01:31:06):
You're not gonna do nothing over there? Would the player
take the clipboard out your hand and do and drap
his own play? That that's the real thing. Like I
like when when when Mike Brown came to the Lakers
(01:31:27):
and he was coaching Kobe, I was like, oh, this
is not gonna work. Because in his press conferences when
he was winning with with Cleveland, I just gave Lebrono.
They were like, you know, what did you say, Dow,
I'm coming out. I just gave Lebron ball and got
out the way. Not nobody respecting that. Nobody's gonna respect that.
The Kobe Bryant is not gonna that's not gonna resonate
(01:31:47):
with him, not coming from Phil Jackson. So that it's
it's it all means something and tough situations. Can you
do something to give us the advantage as a coach.
(01:32:11):
I'm a coach right like that. I at the small
level I coach at those things are glaring because you
coach against coaches that don't.
Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Do that, sure, and you benefit. I benefit from that.
Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
My kids trust me, The parents trust me, and I've
built up that trust over the last seven eight years
of coaching. So now they know, at no point in
the game is it too much?
Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Okay, So I got a question for you then about
what this does or could or might mean for Lebron James,
and I'll ask that to you next with me from Salama,
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the air. My over bet is not out of play.
It's not looking great, right I'm very uh two fifteen yeah,
not looking good anyway. I'm surprised. You know, Luca's got
twenty nine right now. Kyrie seven of eighteen sixteen points
(01:33:53):
just didn't really have a profound effect, not enough on
the basketball game tonight, which is really surprising.
Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
One thing I've noticed about these NBA playoffs, as soon
as a team does something that makes the world go
the squad, they don't play another good game the rest
of the way. Like as soon as Denver rallied back
from down two oh to Minnesota, Denver's winning another championship.
(01:34:27):
Bye bye, And then what did we spend the next
week doing well? Minnesota the Wolves, Wow, that's coronation time,
like they're gonna win it all.
Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
And as soon as they didn't well, Luke and Kyrie
I believe that's the best.
Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Backcourt in the history of the world have ever about
to be down to oh.
Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
It was probably the Celtics all along, and the only
reason it was is because we're bored and we're always
looking to like, have a cool take and be right.
Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
As soon as we started it's back court.
Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Ever, should have known they'd come out lay an egg
in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Then again, maybe they'll win the next one in roll.
Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
But yeah, disappointing performance by those two so far in
this series, big time.
Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
I would agree.
Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
I would, yes, much to my dismay.
Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
You were rooting for the Mavericks. Huh, of course I'm
a Laker man. Come on, I know you are, but
I can't go with the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
Although I like Jaylen Brown, you know, I like Jason Tatum,
I just can't like the team.
Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
This championship, that the Celtics might win. Right here, what
does it do to the little Lakers Celtics thing with
the championships all time that everyone always freaks out about seventeen.
Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Eighteen where it's not little? Where are you guys at?
Where are you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
I nowhere near? It doesn't matter. I just right, people
trumpet things about.
Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Funny people smaller than us are telling us how little
we are.
Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Yeah, so that's not what I said. What I did
say is I think.
Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
It's hysterical that people trumpet things that happened before they
were born. It's kind of the point I was making
last week about the Yankees. Sure, the Yankees and the
Dodgers are different, I get that. I just don't think
it's fun Yankees and Dodgers fans all the championships when
(01:36:49):
when you weren't even born. I don't want to hear
about Mickey Mantle. What are we talking about here? The Celtics.
The Celtics in our lifetime eve from have not been
one of the top five teams in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
No, so my opinion, don't worry. You still got them.
They had a two year run. Yeah, that two year run.
Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
So anyway, just to put a ball on what we
were talking about earlier, how do you think the Lakers
head coaching thing is going to finalize? Because it's not,
And then if it does, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
I think.
Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
I don't think they'll for whatever reason, coach Early. I
would love for him to be the coach. I don't
think he's going to take it.
Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Interesting. I wish he would, but I think we'll be
continue to search, which I hate. Just want a good
(01:38:15):
coach to come in coach my team. That's it. Okay,
this is interesting. Why do you think he's not gonna
take it. It's a lot of pressure, it's a lot.
He doesn't like pressure.
Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
No, I'm not saying that. It's there's no room for error.
So that's a different level of pressure. Okay, no coach
in the last six coaches that's finished out their contract.
That's the type of pressure I'm talking about. And one
(01:38:48):
of them won a championship. So that's that's why. You know,
why would you subject yourself to that for a truckload
of money? I mean the money? Is the money come
(01:39:09):
from a basketball family? Yeah, you don't think you know?
What does he make in a Yukon less?
Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Of course, is less less less than half what he
would make with the Lakers. Yeah. Look, I've learned this.
I've tried to use the same.
Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Like take the free agency late in the career of
any player who's made well over one hundred maybe in
some cases two hundred million dollars. Let's take Klay Thompson's
free agency right now, for example.
Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
Is money a factor? He will make it a factor.
It is not a factor if he wants to stay
in Golden State.
Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
Well, but you know what I mean, like why why
anywhere else they're gonna have to pay if then money
is not a factor? Of course, so be a factor.
Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
And I I think that that fans feel this way
often They're like, at what point have you made enough?
And the answer is always never, you know what I mean.
I was having this conversation with my lady earlier today,
like Mark Cuban right now, when he buys a business,
(01:40:19):
why it's almost like just because you need something to do,
Like it's not like, how is a successful day or
a successful year going to change the life of Mark
Cuban even one iota.
Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
I don't know. I don't walk in those shoes.
Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
I just know that even when people have made a billion,
apparently another five million still is five million, and that's
a lot of freaking money. I think fans think about
that stuff a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
I really do. And so it's going.
Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
To pass out. And I don't know if these reports
are true. But what did it say they offered him
twelve a year. Yeah, he's making and he's making five
and I'm supposed to believe that that doesn't that's not
attractive to him. He's I have a hard time buying
that based on the history of human beings.
Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
It's also what does mama want to live in LA.
It's a lot of factors. Money is part of it,
but there's a lot of factors when it comes to
something like that. So the money's good, right, it's there.
But the bottom line is if mama's like, I'm not
(01:41:44):
feeling LA, then you're like, Okay, it really happens like
that once you've been in it and doing it and
you know the grind of a coach and now he
may be wanting to get off the recruiting carousel and
n IL carousel at IL Yep. Right, that'll drive you crazy.
(01:42:04):
So it's a lot that goes into it. I hope
he takes a job. Like I said, Yeah, Jason Tatum
has again the third leading scorer eighteen points eighteen. Like,
if they go on to sweep Dallas, there's a good
chance Jason Tatum won't be the finals MVP.
Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
That's a bigger conversation. Yeah, he's not so far, not
even close.
Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
Again, I said it, I did say it. I did
say the three letters MVP. You did, And the first
thing that popped in my head was Stephen MVP.
Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
The SEGA good evening once again.
Speaker 7 (01:42:45):
Gentlemen, Yeah, Boston up two games to none in the
NBA Finals. They've just beaten Dallas one oh five ninety eight.
Leading scorer was Drew Holiday for the Celtics twenty six points,
eleven rebounds, no turnovers. Jason hate Him shooting six of
twenty two from the floor. Tonight he had eighteen points
twelve assists. Jalen Brown had twenty one points, Brown with
(01:43:08):
seven assists, six turnovers. Each team from three point range
about twenty five percent from long distance. Luka Donsich with
a triple w He had twenty three points in the
first half. Finished with thirty two points, eleven rebounds, eleven assists.
Donsich with eight turnovers as well. Kyrie Irving sixteen points,
six assists in this loss. Boston and the regular season
(01:43:31):
at home went thirty seven and four. They've won the
two home games to start this best of seven. Dallas
will be home Wednesday and Friday nights in games three
and four. This means now in the past three seasons
Kyrie Irving playoffs included is zero to twelve against the
Boston Celtics. Game two of the Stanley Cup Final is
(01:43:52):
Tomorrow night. At Florida. The Panthers beat Edmonton three to
nothing in last night's opener. Carlos Alcarez won the French
Open in five sets, six two in the fifth against
number four seed Alexander Zaverev. Zverev was the guy that
beat Rafael Nadal first round. Today's match lasted nearly four
and a half hours. American Cocoa Golf, one of the
women's doubles final in college baseball Super Regional number one,
(01:44:15):
Tennessee was a twelve to one winner at home to
eliminate Evansville, Florida in thirteen innings eliminated Clemson eleven to ten.
That the College World Series matchups will include Tennessee against
Florida State, Virginia against North Carolina. Among the games still
going on tonight, Texas and m trying to advance, has
taken the lead nine to eight over Oregon in the
(01:44:37):
top of the seventh tight end. Darren Waller told the
Giants he is retiring from the NFL the UFL Football
Conference finals for this weekend. Saint Louis tonight was hosting
San Antonio and the Bramos of San Antonio have pulled
off the upset twenty five to fifteen, so they go
to the championship game, which will be held in Saint
Louis next Sunday. NASCAR victory for Kyle lars And at
(01:45:00):
Sonoma his third victory of the year. He has the
points lead now Yankees Dodgers was quite a weekend in
Major League Baseball. Yanks won tonight's game six to four
over LA Aaron Judge three hits, including his twenty fourth
home run of the season. He has fifty nine RBIs,
and Yankee outfielder Juan Sota was out again with a
sore forearm. MRI had showed inflammation. Trent Grisham was up
(01:45:22):
at bat at one point and fans at Yankee Stadium
were chanting, we want Sodo. Grisham then hit a three
run homer in the sixth for the lead Yankees with
six to four, and quite a weekend for MLB in London,
they reconfigured a soccer stadium, west Ham United Stadium four.
Major League Baseball attendance was fifty five thousand today and
(01:45:45):
the Mets, with three runs in the top of the ninth,
beat the Phillies six to five. Ten inning wins on
the road for both Boston and Minnesota and for Seattle
and Toronto. Toronto went at Oakland sixty four in ten
and guys the finish in Anaheim today, the Angels wound
up beating Houston nine to seven, the loss to closer
Josh Hayter. The winning hit was a two run homer
(01:46:07):
in the bottom of the ninth. It was a deep
flyball to left Houston's left field, went back to the wall,
seemed to make the catch, collided with the wall and
dropped the baseball into Row one after review, home run. Wow,
not an out game over Angels win.
Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Back o ouch. Taiko have to say about this? Not
off its head? Yeah? No, this is better. This is better,
but still not great, not great.
Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Yeah, wow, incredible finish, Steve, thank you so much. Great
stuff tonight Live tire rack dot com Studios. You know,
in reading the story I'm reading right now from you
may have a point. I wonder what kind of vibe
you get. Early who spoke to ESPN about the Laker
(01:47:07):
interview that he just had and has told the ESPN
he will make his decision on Monday. That is tomorrow, obviously,
and in Connecticut that's in an hour and a half.
But listen to some of these, there's a few things
do unpack here, he said, quote the Lakers made a
(01:47:28):
compelling case, presented a compelling vision for him to become
the next coach, but that he also loves what he
has built at Yukon plans to make a decision Monday.
Hurley told the ESPN that he left quote extremely impressed
(01:47:50):
with Rob Polinka and Genie Buss and has been spending
the day to day weighing his eyes options. All right, well,
what kind of vibe do you get?
Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
I mean, you know, the great thing about the Lakers
is they know how to they know how to sell you.
Sure right, It's it's intoxicating. You come in there and
you see the history and you know they're pretty much saying, man,
we'll get you whatever you want. Just run the show.
You get to make the decisions, you get to do this,
(01:48:30):
and boom. You know, we've got nice properties, you know,
anywhere you guys want to live, and you know, you
get the whole thing. It's it's, it's, it's it's it's intoxicating.
It's very seductive. Oh, by the way, we'll make you
pay you, you know, twice what you're making now, and
we'll guarantee you, you guarantee it, no matter what. You'd
(01:48:53):
be like, Okay, well we're in La, let's do it.
What is a lot that comes with that? The expectation
could be too much because the expectation is to win,
I win a title, period, And so if he's willing
(01:49:15):
to step in to those expectations, because those are his expectations,
not just to make double what he makes and live
in Los Angeles, then I think it'll be a perfect fit.
Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Yeah, I get all that, And at the end of
the conversation, I agree with your previous point. If I
had to predict right now. Doing so well with predictions
this weekend, but if I had to predict right now,
I would say that he's staying. And it's not the
quotes that I'm reading, it's the fact that he gave
(01:49:51):
them in the first place. This is pretty unprecedented. I
would argue Ropa Linka and the Lakers operate on the downlow,
that they've been doing their whole secret. If they've been
doing it the whole time, they JJ reddick, JJ reddick.
Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
They're like, no, it's not but why do we know
this now?
Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
And why did Dan Hurley take the call from ESPN
and create a countdown clock to his big decision that
he's going to release tomorrow. Would he play it this
way if he were leaving? I would argue if he
(01:50:43):
were leaving, that's when it becomes a very sensitive issue
for Yukon. You've got players to talk to, families to
check in with, You've got a whole thing that happens
when there's a surprise departure.
Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
Well, maybe that's what he took the weekend to do.
Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
Maybe maybe, but I would I My guess would be,
if I'll just put it this way, If I were
Dan and that's what I was doing, I'd let ESPN
go to voicemail.
Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
That's what I would do. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
I would not do an interview and tell them, well,
look really great, really thinking hard about it, call you
back tomorrow with an answer that feels like an odd
way to play it. If you're about to leave, you
U kon. I know, Come on, guys, you're emotionally wrapped
(01:51:49):
up in it.
Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Well, it's Mark WEATHERDDY from salam Tyra Com Studios coming
up next. Let's dive a little further into your statement
that there's trouble if Jason Tatum doesn't get it together
at least in these next two games, and Boston ends
up winning the championship.
Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
What do you do? We'll get into that next on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
All right, Tyreck dot Com Studios with e from Sala.
Boston is up two games to none in the NBA Finals,
and in none of those two games has Jason Tatum
scored twenty points or been the leading scorer in the game.
Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
So talk to me. You just made a statement.
Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
What if Boston wins this thing, let's say four or
five games.
Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
I don't think it'll go that way, dab LEAs.
Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
We'll still have something to say about this when it
gets to their building, I would think. But history suggests
that with the two nothing start, the Celtics are highly
likely to be crown champs. What happens if they do?
Tatum is never the leading scorer. Tatum is not the
NBA Finals MVP. What happens he becomes a champion, much
(01:53:23):
in the vein of Steph Curry. Only problem is Steph
Curry at two league MVPs and couldn't manage to win
a finals MVP. Now and that was still the knock
on Steph Curry. Yep, because Igudala and then Kadi twice
(01:53:46):
and then finally he got one.
Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
And twenty twenty two Iguadala one was well interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
Yeah it was, but he didn't do enough to right,
like he wasn't showing up in game six is in
game set like it just he wasn't doing enough, similar
to what's happening right now with with with Tatum Tatum,
Jason Tatum. So that's where it it'll lie. It'll lie
(01:54:18):
in the fact that, look, he's an NBA champion. Someone
came in was the finals MVP, and it'll be a
blemish on his I don't want to say blemish because
you know, winning the championship is winning a championship, but
on his legacy in terms of being the face of
(01:54:40):
the league and one of the great all time greats, right, like,
it matters, It really matters.
Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Oh, there's no doubt it matters. I totally get that.
By the way, I don't know, Look we're two games in.
Silly maybe to start talking about this right now. I
don't know who is the MVP so far. Yeah, it's
it's it's I mean, that's that's how good their team is.
That's how good their team is. That's how good the
(01:55:12):
Celtics are.
Speaker 4 (01:55:14):
But it would be as of now, Jalen Brown, he's
been the most consistent, even though he had a high
number of turnovers today.
Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Yeah, six turnovers, only had twenty one points.
Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
But you look at Luca on the flip side of that,
Look at what Luca's doing. He had a you know,
thirty point triple double. And you know, we're waiting on
Kyrie to join the party.
Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
I will say the wing defenders for Boston are tremendous
and Kyrie's having a tough time going by Jayleen Brown,
Derek White, Drew Holliday and even Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
They're just bigger.
Speaker 4 (01:55:58):
And he's not blown by him like he normally is,
and they're affecting those off balance shots that he's perfected.
He's having a tough time scoring. He can't find his rhythm,
and that's due to the fact that the Celtics are
playing excellent perimeter defense.
Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
Excellent. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
I look at this right now, and there's no doubt
that it's it's way too early to have this conversation,
but it's it's similar to what I said to you
earlier on in this show. I look at Jason Tatum,
and for some reason, it just oozes off of him.
Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
When I watch him play. He looks insecure in these moments,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
We've watched the arrivals where he's walking in and and
you know, he's talked about there was something two years ago.
I'm trying to put a finger on it. But when
they played the Warriors two years ago, he like sent
text messages to Kobe.
Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
I mean, Kobe had long passed.
Speaker 4 (01:57:13):
Yeah, it's it's it's weird, but sent you know what
I mean, like like be with.
Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Me tonight and whatnot, and like it was game four
and you're up two to one, and and and Steph
Curry came in and and and took over and had
an epic performance and the Warriors never lost another game.
Speaker 4 (01:57:30):
And and that's what we're waiting for him to have
and big. But that's what that's what the stage is for.
The stage the NBA Finals that stayed, the Super Bowl,
this stage, the World Series, this stage is for epic performances.
So even though you get to the stage and you
don't stand out right like that's a you thing, and
(01:57:58):
you know it could be he's pushing, he's trying opposed
to letting it come to him, but of course he
hears it, he feels it.
Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
This Celtics team is starting to remind me of that
Pistons team that beat the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
Was that they just have more offense. They have more
offensive power. Though that that that that that Detroit team
where they were holding teams to seventy points.
Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
They were incredible defensively, I'm not I don't mean they're
reminded me in that way. They're reminding me of them
because they don't have.
Speaker 3 (01:58:36):
A leading score. They just have a bunch of people,
a bunch of guys.
Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
I hate, I hate putting Tatum and Brown in that bucket,
but that's what it looks like right now.
Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
But Jayalen Brown is is he's he's stepping into this moment.
He's standing on stage and ready to perform. He's going
about it in a business like way. Nobody's talking about him.
There's no pressure there. He's just going about his business
and he's you can tell him. He's in the floor
(01:59:06):
of the game, he's in his bag, he's having a
good time. There's no there's no pressure.
Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
No, but it all yeah, the whole the whole thing
just sort of you get what I'm saying, though, from
Tatum and Brown, it could just as easily be Holiday.
The other night it was Porzia's Yep, yeah, I know,
I know you like White. Derek White has really had
a wonderful year. They're they're they're they're fantastic. They're fantastic.
But Jason Tatum is not. I hate he doesn't stand out.
Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
He just doesn't. And maybe that's just play a ton Yeah,
maybe that's his lot, and that's okay, that's okay, that's okay.
Are are Kyrie and Luca are still the best backcourt
of all time? I want to check in on that,
are they? Oh? Man, people get to get ahead of themselves.
(01:59:57):
Well not us, man, appreciate you so much much.
Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Great having another hang tonight. This thing will all probably
be a little bit more buttoned up next time we talk.
Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
Yes, it will be.
Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Yes, it will all right. From Salama Mark Wheelard. This
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