Alex Curry and Carmen Vitali start off the show by talking about Trevor Lawrence getting his mega deal from the Jaguars. Alex and Carmen also react to the first four games of the NBA Finals and what to think about the upcoming game. Plus, the ladies talk more about Tom Brady's Patriot induction, NFL Mini Camps, and so much more!!
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Apparently ahead of this match outside of the stadium. Albanian
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NBA fanels, you guys will go on. Luca and the
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Situation or lack thereof.
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The news desk. But let's talk some money, you guys.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Our first big quarterback contract during minicamp was signed. The
Jags made Trevor Lawrence the highest paid quarterback per year
with Joe Burrow now with a five year, two hundred
and seventy five million dollar extension with.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Two hundred million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now you do need to remember this doesn't kick in
for two years until twenty twenty six, when the quarterback
price will be even higher, which is why I think
this was a smart move for the Jags. For that reason,
they know they're not moving off of Trevor Lawrence. This
is their guy, and as we've seen, the price for
quarterbacks keep going up with each contract. So let's take
(03:29):
a look real quick of where he's ranked, right, because
he is now tied for the highest paid Trevor Lawrence,
Joe Burrow tied at one with fifty five million a year,
Jared Goff fifty three million a year at number four,
Justin Herbert fifty two point five million a year, Lamar
Jackson at five at fifty two million dollars dollars a year,
and at six Jalen Hurts at fifty one million dollars
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a year.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Now, none of.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
These top paid six quarterbacks have won a Super Bowl.
Three of them have been to a Super Bowl, but Burrough, Goffen,
Hurts and what's crazy to me? But again, this is
why we keep saying he did a team friendly deal.
The best quarterback in the league is not even in
the top eight highest paid quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes is ninth
(04:16):
on that list. A three time Super Bowl champ, two
time MVPID three times, Super Bowl MVP. Now, I will
never be mad at a player for getting paid, Like,
you have a very limited window of opportunity as an athlete,
especially as a football player. The average football career is
a little over three years. Quarterbacks a little higher because
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that includes everybody is like four and a half. So
when you have the opportunity to capitalize on this, you
have to take it. And Trevor Lawrence got lucky that
the quarter back market is where it is right now. Now,
in case you need reminding, quarterback is the most important
position on these million billion dollar franchises. So at some point,
(04:58):
if you believe this is your guy, you're going to
have to pay him.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Should he be the highest paid quarterback in the league? Eh?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Now?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Eh, He's only going to be the highest paid quarterback
for like, I don't know, yeah, anywhere from two months
to six months. And this contract is going to look great.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's gonna look amazing. I mean it's crazy though, because
like he's had sixty turnovers in his first three seasons,
which included an NFL high twenty one turnovers in twenty
twenty three. But you know what, good for Trevor, Now
go and prove that you deserve this.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
And here's the thing about Trevor Lawrence also, yeah, is
that you know from all this discourse about Kayla Williams,
I am not a fan of assigning anyone the generational
title before they've even play a snap of.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
The NFL football. He kind of got that too, kinda.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
He absolutely did.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, this was a guy that was supposed to be
generationally because of what he did at Clemson. And that's true,
he had a wonderful college career. But the blast quarterback
I felt comfortable using the turn generational for was Andrew
Luck coming out.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
And then he bailed before he was thirty.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Hey, listen, I'm not mad Andrew Luck. He played everything
to a tea. That man deserves all the flowers. But
here's the thing, by any other Staders, if we hadn't
had that bar of expectations set so high for Trevor Lawrence,
this is a guy, a twenty four year old by
the way, Yeah, coming off back to back four thousand
yard seasons.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's made the Pro Bowl twice. He took the Jacks
the playoffs in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
He has engineered five comebacks, six game winning drives. And
for context, Lamar Jackson, who has played twice as long
as Trevor Lawrence his six years compared to Trevor's three,
He's had eight comebacks and ten game winning drives. And
we think of Lamar Jackson as one of those clutch quarterbacks.
He's got two MVPs under.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
His belt during the regular season.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, deserve, But like that's what I'm saying is like
Trevor Lawrence is on that same track when it comes
to clutch time. Some of these like advanced metrics or
like things that matter.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, and so I am not Obviously, the Jacksonville Jaguars
feel like he is their guy and they're willing.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
To and they've never had their guy.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They've never really had their guy, and now they're finally relevant.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
You cannot let him go. You had to pay him.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
No, because the flip side is what like, that's what
I like all of these conversations. We need to get
it out of our heads that only elite quarterbacks get
paid this kind of money. It is just the quarterback
who signed the latest contract it gets his money if
you are seen as a franchise player. So whether or
not you think Trevor Lawrence should be a franchise quarterback
is irrelevant because the Jackie and Jaguars think that.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
He and he is.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
He is the franchise quarterback. Jacksonville Jaguars have made him
a franchise quarterback. So your opinion on Trevor Lawrence is
completely irrelevant. And I'm saying the collective you, not you,
the collective you like, I'm like, all right.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Come out we getting spicy today.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Come out with me, bro, not you collective you. All
these people that are arguing against like what has he done.
He's got the same stats as Danie Jones, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I don't care. The Jacksonville Jaguars have said this is
our guy. And so in that sense, like you said,
you need to pay him sooner rather than later because
that price is only going in two years.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
This doesn't kick in for two years. Can you imagine
where this is going to be. It's gonna be at
least ten probably ten million dollars more.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, and you locked Trevor Lawrence up.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Now you have him under contract for the next seven
years until this man is thirty.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
One years old.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
That the longer this contract goes on, yeah, the more
of a discount that's going to become and.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
They're seeing with Patrick Mahomes exactly.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
And because you have this length of a contract with
your quarterback, that allows you cap flexibility to change and
manipulate his cap hit to surround him with a better team,
which is again why Patrick Mahomes signed a ten year deal.
Patrick Mallomes is going to see every bit of that
five hundred million dollars. Oh yeah, And so that's why, yes,
it looks team friendly from like an average sense, but
(08:51):
like you have to think about, like is this quarterback
going to get that amount of money and Patrick Mahomes
is going to get every sin of that, oh eventually, and.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
He deserves all that and more, probably doesn't.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
It gives the Kansas City Chiefs flexibility when it comes
to Patrick Mahomes's cap hit so that he didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Have to hit the cap What did Cynthia call it?
Creative accounting?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Creative accounting, that's what this is.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's all what this is.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
You can leverage, you know, certain years in the contract,
you can push money down the line, you can do
all that kind of stuff if you need to because
you're getting close and you want to make these playoff
pushes and all that other stuff. So I am love
the fact that Trevor Lawrence signed this deal. I love
the fact that the Jags signed Treylor Lawrence to this
deal because again, he's twenty four years old. He's had
(09:33):
a good, not great start to his career, but he's
still an above average quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Being improvements each year.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Also, he went into like a dumpster fire situation and
franchise Jack's had.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Back to back first round picks. Yeah, like, what.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Is the reason right for a team in the league
for back to back years.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Again, he took them to the playoffs in his second year,
and I'm not one to advocate for wins being a
quarterback stat they're not a quarterback stack, but he's been
given a limited amount to work with. Yeah, his defensive
staff was completely fire after this year, like completely clean
house quarters, like everything. Yeah, so much stuff was you know,
upended in Jacksonville. So just like give him a chance.
This kid guys play and Tom Brady playedelue forty five.
(10:13):
That's not the norm. But like quarterbacks play until their
late thirties. Yes, you can seemably have fifteen more years
of Trevor Lawrence and he is still on an upwards dejectory.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, no, this was a great deal for the Jags,
considering once again, his contract doesn't kick in for another
two years. But the next question is what does this
mean for the other quarterbacks waiting to be signed, because
they got to be feeling pretty good right now because
the price tag just went up, especially again if you're
looking at Trevor's track record of where he's at right now.
(10:40):
So this is where Dak and Tua and Jordan Love
absolutely are sitting, are sitting pretty especially with teams that
want to remain relevant and in that super Bowl window,
because both Dak and Tua have had really strong regular
season numbers and Jordan Love an insane back end to
his first season.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
But let's start with Dak because.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
He is rumored to want sixty million a year, which
is a big jump, you guys, from fifty five to sixty,
like an extra five mil to go over the where
the quarterback market is right now. And the Cowboys also
need to figure out if they're going to pay Micah Parsons,
Ceedee Lamb and Dak in a laundry list of people,
(11:22):
like what order are they going to do this? The
level of importance for each And I know we just
said like when you can get your money, go like
get that bag as an athlete, if that's what you
want it for. But I will say, like, just Dak
is coming off his best season yet he finished second
in MVP voting. He was he had the yeah had
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most passing touchdowns second and passer rating third in passing yards.
And this is a crazy like stat that I saw
this week. When you compare Dak Prescott and Patrick Mahomes
last fifty regular season starts, it's like crazy, how I
dole it is. Mahomes thirty six and fourteen, Dak thirty
three and seventeen. Mahomes one hundred and five passing touchdowns
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Dak one hundred and five passing touchdowns. Mahomes thirty nine interceptions,
Dak thirty eight interceptions, Mahomes ninety eight point nine passer
rating DAK one on one point three passer rating. Mahomes
sixty six point eight completion percentage, DAK sixty eight point
four completion percentage. So it's crazy like how identical their
regular season stats are. But again, the big difference and
(12:30):
the most important part is the playoffs. Mahomes has three
Super Bowls in five years, Dak is two and five
in the playoffs, so it's this is a very interesting
situation for Dak. But he is going to get paid,
whether it's the Cowboys who are gonna pay him, or
he hits the open market and another team's going to overpay.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I don't well, I don't think it's overpaying. It's just
the market value at this point.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Like that's the thing is, So the salary cap went
up a lot more than it usually does this past year,
which is why you saw a jump in a lot
of these contracts, including quarterbacks. Also, you obvious I saw
the Dustin Jefferson contract. Yes, that allowed for it, and
it should go up again this next year. But the
thing with Dak Prescott is I think that this Trevor
Lawrence deal then became Dax floor.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yes, fifty five million is now Dax floor.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So if he were to re sign with the Cowboys
the cheapest they could get them get yeah, realistically it
would be fifty five million a year, and that wouldn't
be technically resetting the market, which is an important part
of this because I think Dak should and could reset
the market again if he hits free agency.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Because teams.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
We'll get into a bidding war for Dak Prescott because
there are plenty of teams that believe that they can
get to a Super Bowl with Dak Prescott. I take
such an issue with I'm not even a Cowboys person,
Like I'm not.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, but you live with a Cowboys person.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Still, I'm not a Cowboys person. Yeah, But this whole
narrative of.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Organizational failure on behalf of the Cowboys in the postseason
being pinned.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
On one man in.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
What we all call the best like the most complete
team sport we have.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Football is the ultimate team sport?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
How many times do you hear that?
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Then?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
How do you pin the failures.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Of an entire franchise on one man on the field? Listen,
can Dak play better in the postseason? He absolutely can,
Please do not get it twisted. He needs to step
it up. But his defense is averaging it lets up
over thirty points a game in the postseason. That is
the average.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Also, I talk about this all.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
The time, and I started World War three on Speak
a couple weeks ago because I said, Dak needs more
to get him through the postseason. Gotten a lot he's
having no Listen to me, listen to me. His skill
players are lacking. And I will point back to a
team that reached the Super Bowl that I am very
intimately familiar with, in the twenty twenty Bucks. They signed
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Tom Brady that year. Did they only sign Tom Brady? No,
they signed Rob Gronkowski to number one target can pull
him out of retirement?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Was Gronk Tom's only weapon on that team.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
He had Mike Evans, he had Chris Godwin, he had
Leonard Fournette, he had Shady McCoy who was brought in
to be a veteran presence in that running back room
because Leonard Fournette was going to benefit from that, and
Leonard Fournette did benefit from that, so Tom Brady benefited
from that. The point is the Bucks knew that the
greatest quarterback of all time still needed help. Not necessarily
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for the regular season, because one man can will you
to success in the regular season, but because of the postseason,
it becomes a completely different game and the margin for
error is so small. If you look at the roster
that the Dallas Cowboys have put around Dak Prescott, especially
this last year, you have Ceede Lamb. That's great. Where
are all these quarterbacks that are doing it on their
own with one guy. You could argue Patrick Mahomes last year,
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but Patrick Mahomes is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
One of one, Patrick Mahomes, but Travis Kelsey is also
one of one. But also he was not one hundred percent.
He was also injured and not at the playoffs. He
turned it back on because that's what Travis Kelsey does great.
And if I'm looking at yes and if I'm looking
at those two rosters, Dax and Patrick, I would take
Travis Kelce over Ceed Lamb because Travis Kelsey is a
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tight end that presents different types of mismatches for defenses
than a wide receiver can. That's also the comfort too,
like do you have a guy that you know that
no matter what happens, he's going to be able to
read your mind and show up where I'm susabe.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
And CD can be that for Dak, has been that
for Dak, he is a one of the best receivers
in the league. Both track not enough, Oh no, you
need more. So Dak is absolutely deserving of getting paid.
He is absolutely deserving of that sixty million dollar mark,
which he's not He's not seeking. That was refuted by
some of the Dallas Cowboys beat writers. That is what
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he has projected to get.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And they're right.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Dak is not sitting there being like I'm demanding sixty
million dollars, although he should and he could, and we
can't argue with that because sixty million dollars, fifty million
dollars is already the going great for a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, we've now seen it be at fifty five.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, because of Trevor Lawrence, Yeah, Joe Burrow, all these guys.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
That is the floor for Dak Prescott. He will get
over sixty years.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It's gonna be interesting. Lads are getting paid. We're gonna
take a quick break here. But when we come back,
can Luca keep the MAVs alive in Game five?
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Speaker 4 (18:41):
You have a dance party, right. Thank you for spending
your Saturday afternoon with Carme and me.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
We're on a good one today and we're hoping that
we'll just kind of like bleed that through the radio
station and you guys all have an amazing day back
at home.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
But last night, the NBA Finals will go on.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Luca and the MAVs finally woke up last night in
a monster win. Luc and Kyrie combined for fifty points.
Celtic starters only combined for forty four points. Like, congrats
to Luca and the MAVs for avoiding the sweep. That
was one of the most impressive bounce back games I've
ever seen in the finals. But that needed to happen
(19:20):
because we witnessed Luca have a complete frustration breakdown in
Game three.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I didn't hear enough people talking about this, what he's injured.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, no, I talked about this yesterday on the Herd.
I was like, you have to take into consideration he
is dealing with back and Nissa.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Like walking back. Game three he couldn't move.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Oh yeah, so you have to imagine that that adds
to the frustration because you're trying to overcompensate and do everything.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
But bottom line, when you are the leader of a team, you.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Have to learn to control your emotions, use and channel
that fire in a different way, not to the rest.
When you're like you're fouled out of a game with
four minutes left to go and your team loses by seven,
and you are the best player on the team, the
leader of the team, and the reason that this team
is in the finals right now.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
That can't happen. No, that cannot happen.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That was an embarrassing moment and situation for Luca in
game three.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
But what matters. You can't look back at the past.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You got to look at how he responds, because all
you can control is how you react to an unfortunate situation,
which was his fault in game three, and he did.
Look what he did. He took responsibility and he even
said after the game that was on me. I need
to get back to having fun, and he did. They
came out and they absolutely dominated and.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Moss pulled their starters in the third quarter like.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Well, and what was most impressive though, is that that
frustration was then channeled into the defense that Luca showed
finally because he forced missus on Boston's first six attempts
with him as the primary defender. Yeah, he forced Drew
Holliday into four eternal Yeah, where Drew Holliday hadn't had
a single turnover in this theories up until that point.
(21:04):
That is what you needed to see because you need
to see an all around game from Luca. You needed
him not to be a liability on defense, and you
also needed to see guys like Kyrie step.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Up and help him.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
He did, and I mean they were I had to
commend the maps just in general because of the fact
that they were so aggressive in the paint. Yeah, but
then also made it back to play.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
They played defense. They played defense for the first time
this series. That's what happened mass play defense. Did you
see the really cute video after the game of Luca
and Kyrie's dad like shaking hands and like holding hands
and like touching heads and like celebrating together.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It was it was it was really cute.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Like you could tell there was just an energy shift
within not only like within the building, but like.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And that it was even if it was just like a, hey, guys,
we can't get swept. No, Like, even if it was
just that, like, hey, we're probably not going to come
back in this series, because I don't think they're going to.
But we're not going to go out like this. We're
not going to go out on a sweep. Yeah, We're
going to at least put up a fight. And if
that is what rallied the troop and that is all
(22:12):
that the MAVs can muster, I.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Guess that's enough.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yaah.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I mean, it would be insane for the Celtics. We'll
squander a three to zero lead in a series, which
has never been.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Done in every finals now, There's never been a comeback
from being a three in a series to win the
best of seven.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Right right, It's just I don't think it's going to happen, especially,
you know, going back to the Garden. That's a whole
other thing. But I'm glad that the MAVs showed the
fight that we knew that they were capable of.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I also don't want to downplay what the MAVs did,
but this was one of the worst games we've seen
from Boston.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Oh absolutely all season.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So It's like how much credit do you give that
to Boston just like completely just having a down down game,
or like how dominant Dallas was.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
It was like the.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Perfect storm for both were both right to have like
the third.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Our amendment home, Yeah, you had all that, but again
you have to give credit to the Maps were playing
defense because that is what stifled the Celtics. Maybe them
seeing that they're capable of that can carry them to
another win.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But I just I still don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You're going team no, no, no, you're going back to
the garden.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I'm just yeah, I'm just happy that MAVs made it
a bit of the series at least for a night,
and we're going to get another game on Monday, like
just something.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, and then that also or I mean.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Boston wants to win at home, so they were just
like sure the Maps can have this one. We're going
to turn it on. I mean, they have been playing
with their food all season, so we're all serious. I
heard postseason.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yeah all right, I don't know, like.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I mean, like I said, I preface that these are
the conspiracy theorists, but it was now now Boston does
have the chance to close it out.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, as like as a Lakers fan, and I'm living
in the past, wearing my Lakers shirt, like pretending how
we used to be in the playhoffs late to the finals.
I'm just happy that Boston didn't sweep. I'm just so
happy that sweet might be a gentleman sweep. But uh,
we'll see. Now, let's check in with a COVID.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
See what's trudre.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Well more to your point. Game five the NBA Finals
coming up on Monday. According to tick pick, currently the
most expensive ticket on record for a sporting event in Boston.
Cheapest get in price for Monday Night at the Garden
one thy, seven hundred and fifteen dollars. News in the
NFL reports a Bengals receiver T Higgins has signed his
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franchise tag and is expected to report to training camp
next month, but a long term deal for Higgins is
considered unlikely at this point. Third round of the US
Open from Pinehurst, number two is in progress. Crowded leaderboard
at the top, Ludwig Aberg at the top at six
under par, Matthew Pavaughan is one shot back at five hunder,
(24:45):
and you've got a cluster at four under including it.
Tony Finow Roy McRoy and Bryson Deshambeau. But Obert had
the lead at the start of the day and he
has won under for his round. Got Game four of
the Stanley Cup Final tonight at eight Easter and the
Panthers trying to become the first team to sweep the
finals since the Red Wings did it to the Capitals
in nineteen ninety eight. Baseball, the Orioles placed right hand
(25:07):
or cal Brandish on the fifteen day injured list with
a UCL sprain in his elbow. Got a bunch of
games in action, most of them have just started. But
you got the Cubs leading the Cardinals of five to
one in the eighth inning. Also the Blue Jays shutting
out the Guardians four to nothing in the fifth. Twins
and A's was postponed due to rain in the Twin Cities.
They'll play a doubleheader tomorrow. Alex Carmen back to you.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Thank you, Nick. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. Alex
Courry here with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from
Attire dot Com Studios in Los Angeles, and it is
time to bring in our first guest. He's the host
of Exemplift podcast. NFL writer for Yahoo Sports. Please welcome
Charles McDonald. Thank you for joining the show.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Roberts, whoo hey, guys, how's it going.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Thank you? We're doing great.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Let's talk some Let's talk some football here, because Trevor
Lawrence got paid this week with his contract extension five years,
two hundred and seventy five million dollars. Now, Carmen and
I were talking about this off the top of the show.
He came into this league with extremely high expectations, put
on a pedestal here, So there's been a lot of
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talk of do you think he earned this extension? Give
us your thoughts of was this a great deal for
the Jags and was this the right deal for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Look, anytime you can get two hundred million dollars guarantees,
I think it's probably the right deal for you. But
I do think this is the right deal for the Jaguars.
And I've i as my little group of football writers
that I've talked to a lot, and we're all pretty
big Trevor fans, So we've been bracing ourselves for this
(26:42):
idea that when he got that contract, which I don't
think anyone should be surprised they got it that there
would be some backlash to it because he was billed
as like, you know, the next Peyton Manning Andrew Luck
type quarterback. But I also think people need to remember that,
like Trevor Nevers said that about himself, that was us.
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That was our fault, the mis making on that, and
he's not Peyton Manning. But I do think he's a
He's a really really good quarterback that kind of just
hasn't been set up to, you know, fully succeed in Jacksonville.
They tried last year with the Calvin really things, and
it turns out a year away from professional football can
be a little bit detrimental to your ability to play
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professional football on a consistent level. And then they've you know,
they've made investments in Christian Kirk and they having Ingram
who are nice players but not like true number one.
So yeah, I think that they have the quarterback right
for the future. It's just kind of like the skilled
players moving around it that they still need to figure out.
And if they can do that, man, I really wouldn't
(27:45):
be that concerned. But you know, it's like you have
one piece of you have the most important piece. I
think but there's still so much that needs to be
built out around it.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yeah, and now with this contract structured as it is,
you have the flexibility to kind of control Triver's cap
so you can put a better team around him all
that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
We talked about that too. But this speaks kind of to.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
The larger quarterback market where it kind of becomes the
floor for these franchise quarterbacks, where like, all right, this
is just the going rate now. And I know so
Charles is a long suffering Atlanta Falcons fan.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you knew I was gonna have
to go here, Charles.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
You look at like the Kirk Cousins deal and how
that kind of set expectations when he's thirty six coming
off in Achilles injury, which is arguably one of the
worst injury you could possibly have as a football player.
Where does this market go from here? And is it
just going to kind of keep climbing And are these
guys that are in line to get paid like Jordan
(28:45):
Love like to a Tago Butloa and like Dak Prescott,
should they be expecting closer to that six number?
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Now?
Speaker 11 (28:53):
Well?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah, if you're like if you're
a brock Purty, right.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, that's a fast You're just.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Looking at the stats, comparing your stats to other quarterbacks.
That which is what you're gonna take with you when
you go negotiate your deal. But yeah, you should ask
for sixty million dollars because that's what this game is.
You know. I think people forget every single time. People
forget it's not the best quarterback. That's always the high
stake guy like that homes like the ninth high stake quarterback,
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even after like his raises that he got in.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
The past couple of years, which is crazy inspective.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Winning, it's crazy, it's crazy. It's just like who gets paid, uh,
you know the most recently. So what I think is
really interesting about uh where we're going to be by
the time, you know, Week one kicks off, is you're
probably gonna have like Trevor Lawrence, Jerrick Off two a
tongue of Illowa under contract for contract extensions this offseason.
(29:50):
I think that those three are like a great test
case for what what what should teams be paying for
at the quarterback positions because when I look at Trevor Lawrence,
I because you know, that's someone to me who at
times has like the talents to literally carry the jacks
ostense when when things aren't working around them. You know,
I think with Jared Goffe's too tungue ballo, we've seen
(30:11):
they can be a little bit more dependent on the
pieces around them to actually be productive players at all.
So I think that what we see from them because
two is obviously going to get paid. He's going to
be in the fifty five million dollars per year range
or maybe even a little bit more. Uh, Because, like
as I just said, the towns works. But I think
the type of quarterback that teams are handing out big
money too, because look, Derek Goff is making more money
(30:33):
than Lamar Jackson Josh Allen. Now, yeah, So I think
that that's something teams should probably consider moving forward.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Well, and in that vein too, elite quarterback play is
so hard to find. Like the people that are saying,
how could you pay Trevor Lawrence, this, that and the other?
Trevor Lawrence is an above average quarterback? Where what is
your option? What what is your what is the alternative
to paying these guys that are above average quarterbacks? Because
it's like Patrick Mahomes has spoken for Josh Allen is
(31:00):
looking for like your Atlanta Falcons went out and got
Kirk Cousins and then went and spent a top ten
pick on quarterback because you just don't know, like what,
I feel like there needs to be a little bit
more talked about when it comes to the fact that
a truly good quarterback, a franchise quarterback is such a
hard and rare commodity to come by.
Speaker 12 (31:21):
Yeah, Kirk Cousins just got one hundred million dollars guarantee
a put torn Achilles and the Vikings we're trying to
bring them back because remember they put out a statement
like right before Kirk.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Signed with Atlanta. So yeah, the teams are don't pay
anything for this. I do wonder if they're if the
bubbles ever are gonna yop though, where a team looks
at like, you know, not to not to you know,
to hate on them too hard, but a team looks
like a TUA and says, no, I can't I can't
pay that sixty million dollars per year. I can't do it.
(31:54):
It's just not it's not good enough value. And I
think the value, the value idea with quarterbacks is all
is interesting because like what quarterbacks, you know, value obviously
I would I would say at this point, Lamar Jackson
contract that value, Josh Allen contract obviously value Derek Goff.
We'll see, we'll see if he can, you know, end
up overcoming what they have to cut off the roster
(32:15):
as his cap kids grows over the years. But even then,
like he's still a capable player in his own right.
It's just like how high can the ceiling be? So
I think that's also part of the Trevor Lawrence equation,
where you know, you have these moments where he looks
like he could be in that Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson's class at times, but just not consistent. But
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if you can harness that and get that movement, then
this deal is going to be totally worth it. And
even if he just ends up being like the tenth
best quarterback moving forward, right, it's still probably gonna be
worth it, right, you know, all right.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Let's switch gears.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Because Aaron Rodgers missed mandatory mini camp with an unexcused absence,
we still don't know where he is. And the fact that,
like what Pat McAfee like who he goes on that
show every week he also has no idea where he is.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Do you think this is a big deal that he
missed these practices?
Speaker 6 (33:06):
No, No, I don't. I don't think it matters at all,
to be honest with you. It has become something that
gets talked about because it's Aaron and he can't help.
But like, do these things where he's just kind of
messing with the orders of operations actually ms rich to
me and he's you know, he pondered the idea that
(33:26):
Aaron might have gone to Egypt this week. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So we've had he's at like the Kennedy fundraiser we
have somewhere in Europe, we have he's in Egypt.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
This is the like where's waldo of Aaron Rodgers? Where
is it?
Speaker 10 (33:39):
You?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
All over the place? I do think that Soft Gardner,
the Jet's cornerback, he put it pretty pecactly on score
to the other of the day, where basically was like
I'm paraphrasing here, He's like, man, this guy's plays in
the NFL for twenty years.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
The three day.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Practicing June is not really mattering that much. Also, Aaron,
He's been around for literally everything else this season this
off season. I mean, I don't know what he was
doing this week. But Aaron's not even the most interesting
Jets holdout this week. We're the one that h Hassan Reddick,
who they created for in April. First, Yeah, hasn't done
(34:12):
anything yet because he's looking for a new deal as
the enders the last year of his deal with the
Jets a reflex fine with the Eagles. But here's the thing,
Robert Salay and Joe Douglas might not be in a
position to hand out multi year deals right now. So
that's going to be the one that is interesting. But Aaron,
I don't think this matters. He already knows Nate Hackens' playbook.
He's just doing Aaron things.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's it's just been like why not get ahead of it,
you know, be like, hey, he's not going to be
here this week. A post of putting Robert Sola on
the hot seat and then like having him answered that's
a lot of like.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
You're a meeting, you know what you're doing, can't meeting?
You know what you're doing? Now he's top five our
conversation probably a purpose.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
I'll about say. I like Robert sala. I think he's
a good guy. He was greaty for his coach. But
when he gets in front of a mic, in front
of these situations, it never makes it better. You always
have to tell back to the next day and clarify. I thinks,
so yeah, video a little proactivity will be good for
the chest, but I think in.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
A lot of area, just a little.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Charles, thank you so much for joining us. Love your insight,
Thanks for having me, of course.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Now when we come back, it's time for the dues
and the Dons in sports. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
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Speaker 2 (35:29):
Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here
with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from Attarik dot
com studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending your
Saturday afternoon with carme and me. I hope we've put
a smile on your face of even hanging out with
us as last hour.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
If not, you will.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
But guess what great guess at Charles McDonald.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
So he was he was awesome.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
He's so funny. You guys, you need to follow him
on Twitter. He's at four verts. Uh. He's one of
the funniest Twitter follows.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
That in I just in the NFL No, no, no, you
just told me that, and I just ad a full
deep creep at our commercial break and that was great.
But now it is time for the dues and the
don'ts in sports this week.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
High I love that putting a spotlight on the don't.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
The subject brings me no joy.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
All right.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I'm gonna start with a do okay, do recognize and
praise greatness. The world lost a legend this week when
Jerry West passed away, and he will go down as
one of the greatest NBA figures of all time. And
I love seeing just the appreciation from every single level,
every single person not only involved in basketball but in
(36:44):
sports that came out and just shared these stories.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
There was a lot of like old clip.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Surfacing and there was one where he's like, you know,
I'm not a dog. People say like, you got to
be the dog in sports. I'm the wolf and I
eat the dog. I was like, that's what I'm talking
about I.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Mean, he will the three different separate dynasties.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
He had the Lakers in the eighties with Magic and Kareem,
Lakers in the two thousands with Kobe and Shack, the
Warriors dynasty with Steph Draymond Clay and brought in Katy,
that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
So, yeah, has lost some legends in the last couple
of weeks. I know, I know, Walton Billy.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Oh, I just got chill.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
But you're right.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Seeing all the stories about these guys is so it's
so cool, and it's so cool to see the legacy
that they had off the basketball court too.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Okay, I also have a due. Yeah, do double check
your work.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Oh hat, I know where we're going with this.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
The Chiefs had their ring ceremony in the year Air
this week, and the ring itself, it was engraved on
every single one of them on the inside of the ring.
Underneath it had the scores of all of their games
in the playoffs and it listed the Miami Dolphins as
the seventh seed when they were the sixth seed.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
In the AFC.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
The Steelers were the seventh seed and that is now
on everybody's drink.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
It's just like, how much were the rings. They were
like what how much were each one was worse with
an insane amount of.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Like seventy grand something like that. I mean, it's all
as this is.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
This is how I know.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
This is how I know you won too much? Yeah,
because like you you're like, eh, right, here's the design.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
We're doing this again, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, speaking of winning a lot, My next is also
a do do show up and support your teams. Boston
packed two arenas there did the same night, and neither
had a live game happening inside the building. The Garden
was packed to watch the Celtics MAVs game in Dallas,
(38:35):
and then Gillett Stadium was packed for Brady's Hall of
Fame induction.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, yeah, there it is Boston fans. Like I'm from Chicago.
I take pride in being a Chicago fan. Yeah, like
I know that that city can rally. But like Boston
and Chicago are like right, neck and neck. Who I
will fully admit that Boston is such a good sports city.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Philly, Philly's great too, Philly's up there.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Yeah, but I actually have don't in relation to that
whole situation. Don't underestimate Rob Gronkowski because in the roast
of Brady, everybody just kept telling how dumb robis and
I was like, He's not that dumb. And at Tom's
induction on the red carpet, Gronk did some really fun
(39:17):
math about what was all taking place, why it was
taking place.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Why do you think he like bo did this on purpose? Okay,
keep going, keep going anyway.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
He like he was talking about like, oh, well, it's
happening in the sixth month of the year because Tom
was a sixth round pick.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Also other stuff. He did all this fun maths and
then he said it's.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Happening in the year twenty twenty four because that's the
age of the girls that Tom and Bill Balichick are
both dating, twenty four year old, and that Bill Belichick
is dating and brought her to the induction ceremony. No,
it's a former cheerleader. A cheerleader, she's twenty four years old.
She and Bill Belichick are dating.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
No, And now.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
All of a sudden, Rob Gronkowski looks like the most stable,
like less wild of the three of them, because Grok
has been with his girlfriend Camille, who's thirty two years old,
for years and.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Like she also has an extremely successful was also a cheerleader.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah she was.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Yeah, but she like she's a successful in her sports
illustrats on suit moodel. She's got a business bunch of
business ventures, just like Robinson.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
She Patriots, truly, she was Patriots. That's a big no.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
No, we're getting past that.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
But I just all of a sudden, rob Gronkowski looks
like the most responsible of Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
That like if he dropped that at the roast.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Oh, the roast is happening in twenty twenty four, because
that's the age of do we get a.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Bill Belichick roast? Because oh my god?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Like also, like who are you Bill Belichick?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Learning?
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Working now?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Now?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Like about him, we're getting personality for the first time
in our lives.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
You were dating someone that could probably be like you're wet.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
He got caught sneaking out of her house. I don't
know if it was her house, but it was somebody's house.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
They talked about that during the road was brought up.
That was brought up during the roast. But like that,
how old is Bill? Like are we in a sixty?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (41:07):
That could be your granddaughter. That's a little.
Speaker 11 (41:13):
All.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
She's a philosopher, what she is an entrepreneur at a philosopher.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
What there is so much to unpack the Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
All right, we're gonna take a break when we come
back in the mayf Stay alive.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (41:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Welcome to hour two of Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex
Curry here with Carmen Vitali. Thank you for spending your
Saturday afternoon with Karmie and me. We've had a blast
of a first hour. And then tonight I'm going to
Dodgers versus Royals, my first game since Opening Day. I
am ready to watch Yamamoto in real life for my
first time. The big pitching pick up by the Dodgers
(41:54):
this year. Also, like, not sure how many people had
the Royals crushing it this season on their bingo car
are They're one of eight teams with forty wins in
baseball right now? Like, who, I can't wait to watch
Bobby Junior on the wheeler.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Yeah. Been to a Dodger games that I worked for them,
which is like.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Ten years ago. Yeah, that's great that you live here
in La.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Figure that out. We'll go back.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
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The NBA Finals are still alive, you guys, thanks to
Luca and the MAVs going off last night as a
Lakers fan.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
And I'm rocking my Lakers shirt.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I was just crossing my fingers and toes that Boston
didn't get a finals sweep, So thank you. The other
big news last night, Charles Barkley announced that, after twenty
four years on TVs, retiring after next season, he is
in TV.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Gold and just that's a loss, man.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Everything they've won, like I think, like the every single year,
like that whole TNT show set the bar for pre
postgame show.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
It was just as he was saying that, because everyone
was like, Oh, where it's he going to go? How
much money is he going to get? Like anywhere? I
love Yeah, TNT and NBA TV. That's it.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I love it. I'm done.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
End of an era, Well, next year, end of an era.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
But we're going to dive deeper into last night's game
with our next guest, NBA insider Mark Medina.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Thank you for joining the show.
Speaker 11 (43:32):
Alice kar thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, I'm happy that we get to continue to talk
about the NBA Finals. I mean, that was one of
the most impressive bounce back facing elimination games we've seen
in the finals, so much so that I mean the MAVs.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Pulled their starters in the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
What was the biggest difference that you saw from Luca
in the MAVs last night?
Speaker 11 (43:52):
Well, I think the biggest difference with Luca is that
he lived up to what uh the criticism he was
getting in Game three with not complaining to the officials,
playing better on defense. Though it was very much a
bounce back game, but I think in fairness, the entire
group a lot more effort, a lot more help for
Lucas so that the burden wasn't on him. And look,
(44:14):
I don't want to burst your bubble, and I'm sorry
to do it because I know you're a Laker fan.
I don't think that they're going to be the first
team ever to overcome an O three thirds.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
But I can do a gentleman suite, but just not
like a sweet stuff.
Speaker 11 (44:28):
But I will validate. They did make some history with
the game last night. You know, that was the third
most lopsided game in Final history. And while we've seen
the playoff games that each game can have its own identity,
I think that there is something to be said that
there can be a carryover with Game five because of
how well they played, as well as just the fact
that they got some rest in the fourth quarter. And
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there's a lot of uncertainty with Chriss Borzingis's health situation
in Boston, so we will see for an interesting Monday
what Game five looks like.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Now, obviously you could play better defense. The MAVs in
total played better on defense shut down the Celtics in
that game. Do you think that that was more the
elevation of the MAVs or was it more Boston taking
their foot off the gas knowing that if they didn't
win this game, they could turn around and win it
at home now next game.
Speaker 11 (45:19):
Yeah, very good point. Carbon. I mean, Dallas deserves all
the credited kudos that we gave them just earlier, but
we do have to keep in mind that it takes
two to tango, and Boston definitely let down its intensely.
And this is kind of this has been their identity
all season. When they feel that their challenge or have
to play their best basketball, they do. But when they
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feel like that they don't have to do that and
they can coast along, they help themselves to play with
their food and.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Having some exactly what Carmon said.
Speaker 11 (45:51):
So I suspect that that's not going to happen again,
especially they have an opportunity to close it out in
Game five on Money Day, but you never know. I mean,
I think that the thing with porzingis I don't think
that series defining necessarily. There were a few coaches I
talked to before the series started and thought Boston's so
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deep that Withoutzingis they're.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
Going to win.
Speaker 11 (46:15):
But anytime you get a team hope, a team confidence,
anything can happen. And again, I don't think it's enough
to win three more games in a row, but it's
at least enough that Dallas could win Monday and really
make this series more interesting than what we thought.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Okay, so then continuing on that, because no team has
ever come back from being down three in a series
to win the best of seven. Are you expecting the
Mouns to make this a series or is Boston closing
this out and winning it home on Monday Night.
Speaker 11 (46:44):
Yeah, that's the ultimate question here, I think can I
say both? Like I think Dallas w Yeah, I think
that it'll be respectable. We'll see a better version of Luca,
We'll see a better version of Dallas being a complete team.
But I think that we're going to see a much
better version of Boston with them plant their best. Maybe
we get some minutes from Persingus, maybe he's still out,
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but regardless, it'll be Jason Tatum, Jylen Brown, Drew Holliday,
Derek White at their best. They're at home, They're at
the Garden, and I know that it's going to be
celebratory for all the Sevics luminaries, rightfully painful for Lakers
luminaries because of the ring total counts that we're keeping
track of with the NBA's best rivalry. But yeah, I
think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
How much do you think Boston has been helped by
the fact that, I mean, they had the easier conference
when it got in the regular season and then this postseason.
I mean, it only took them fourteen games to get
to the finals. They were very well rested coming into this,
whereas the MAVs had to fight through a gauntlet in
the West, Like are we kind of seeing the disparity
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between the competition of each conference now manifesting in the
fact that Boston now seems to have more energy, has
been more dominant in this series because of the fact
that maybe they're just they don't have as much tree
on them.
Speaker 11 (48:01):
Yeah, really good point. I think we're seeing it, no
doubt because Boston outside of perzingis of course, but they've
been mostly healthy. You haven't seen, you know, signs of
fatigue for really their main guys. And I think also
on the worst end, we also didn't see Boston have
to play at its best in previous rounds because they
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weren't challenged, and we saw that once they faced a
more affordable opponent they did rise to the occasion. But
I think on the other hand, they do earn some
credit that they won most I think nine out of
ten games without porzingis so even though they played teams
that you know, were decimated with injury, especially with their
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main guys they had a key injury. Now it was
much different because their main guys are Jayson Tatum Jael Brown.
But he is their third option. He's a key part
of their machine and why they've been even more dangerous
than past seasons when they've fallen short in the playoffs.
So I think when I'm weighing all this to answer,
you know, the thrush Her question, I think the prevailing
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part is that their depth, talent, and continuity is prevailing.
But I think that what you mentioned about the landscape
that's certainly played I think a third or fourth factor
into all those.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Now we've seen what the MAVs are capable of, but
obviously not quite enough in terms of depth and help.
So where do the MAVs go from here, especially like
looking into the off season.
Speaker 11 (49:29):
Yeah, it's a really good question because if they fall
short inevitably, you always internalize what can you do better?
But I think that the good thing for Dallas is
that they addressed the pressing concerns that plagued them in
previous seasons of finding the right number two or one A,
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one B for Luca, and they've already found that with Kyrie,
He's not going to be a free agent. They resigned
him last year and they found the right supporting cast,
so it's not the Luca Show and only the Lucas Show.
So I think really it's going to be about assuming
that they lose this series, about improving from within and
building off that experience, and that might sound boring, but
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it's also in line with what most teams and stars
go through in the NBA playoffs. I mean, we've seen
this happen in Boston where they were knocking on the door.
They weren't quite ready yet, and now it looks like
they are, and no doubt they've made changes, but it's
mostly been around the margins. They haven't made the changes
with their main stars. So I think that's the most
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likely course that Dallas takes and the most realistic. But
I think the challenging part to wrap this up is
that the rest of the landscape is going to continue
to get more challenging.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
All right, well, let's move to the other big topic
that's been going on during these NBA Finals, and that's
that the Lakers offered Dan.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Early a six year, seventy million.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Dollar contract to become the next head coach, and he
declined it were you surprised at Hurley said, No.
Speaker 11 (51:00):
Not surprised, because I think that he was dealing with
two good options. And so when I conclude with this,
the sense that I got is that it was more
a factor that he had a good thing going of
two consecutive national championships. He's even in the age of nil.
He is the faith of Yukon. There's more stability there
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as opposed to any indictment on the many questions that
the Lakers have. Now no doubt, this obviously shows that
this isn't the Lakers of old, of their glamor franchise.
Anyone would just take any job offered to them.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Pay them to like get them if you really want them,
a little bit of low ball offer.
Speaker 7 (51:38):
Yeah, And that's the thing that's that's I think that
when I'm wrestling with that part about could they offered more? Yes,
they could have, I think in fairness though Dan Hurley's
even acknowledged that he didn't need it for leverage, like
he was already going to get that extension with Yukon.
And secondly, when you're looking at the marketplace, he was
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going to be still among I think top five on
all the highest paying coaches in the league and the
ones that are above them were you know, people like
Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich, and no disrespect to Dan Hurley,
but they obviously have more of a track recor with
the NBA. But yeah, I think to the larger point,
the higher number you get.
Speaker 11 (52:21):
Maybe that makes the difference. But I think when you
weigh all these variables, I think at the end of
the day, he stayed put because he concluded, I have
a good thing going. Why broke break something that is
or why try to fix something that isn't broken.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Now there are reports that JJ Reddick is a meeting
with the Lakers this weekend. What are you hearing and
is this now the Lakers' best option?
Speaker 11 (52:44):
Yeah? Really good question here because it's all fluid, But
I think as we speak, it's the most realistic option,
best option. It's tough because he hasn't coached before, but
it's what are the best options of AILA and James
Barreco is another good candidate, but he might be more
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inclined to go the Cleveland round because he's interviewed there
and he's a great coach. He has a relationship with
Anthony Davis. He knows, you know, off good, pretty good offenses,
but he's also had his own shortcomings as a head coach.
So I think the best and most realistic course of
action is hiring JJ Reddick, but also making sure that
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he has the right coaching staff around him to mitigate
the shortcomings of laugh of experience. But that's easier said
than done because not every experienced coach is willing to
be an assistant. Uh So that's the tricky part. It's
not just finding the right head coach, it's finding the
right coaching staff to address that coach's weaknesses.
Speaker 5 (53:46):
That was my question because I think what goes a
little bit under talked about when you have these guys
that haven't coached before, especially in the NBA, it's not
so much about, you know, their lack of experience when
it comes to actually doing the coaching things. And like
I mean, you know, JJ Reddick played forever, he was
a high level player.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
He knows what a head coach is supposed to look like.
But when you come in so Green.
Speaker 5 (54:09):
You don't have these guys that line your bench as
far as your staff goes, because you don't you haven't
worked with anyone in that regard. So who would be
some of the assistants, you would expect someone like JJ
Reddick to pull in to make up for, like you said,
his lack of experience.
Speaker 11 (54:26):
Yeah, I think Scott Brooks should be a pretty good candidate.
He had former head coach experience, and he has proven
that he's willing to be an assistant coach just recently
with Portland. I don't think that he's actually going to
be a candidate, but I do give the benefit of
the dow with Terry Stott. You know, he was a
pretty good coach in Portland. He's very well respected for
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his offensive acumen. The counterpoint might be, well, he was
with Milwaukee and that time ended very quickly when there
was some friction with him and Adrian Griffin. But that
I get is that that was more specific to Adrian
Griffin than philosophically a veteran assistant coach trying to step
on the toes of a head coach. But that being said,
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I don't think that's an option. I just think that
that's a good option. And then Rajon Rondo, he wanted
to fill fill this bucket, but he would fill a
different bucket of another good smart voice, former player could
at least start off on the player development route. But
this is a tricky puzzle. The Lakers have to figure
it out. And I know, you know, even though the
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sounds bizarre, the Lakers internally aren't necessarily saying we have
to have everything in place before the draft. But I
think objectively they gotta do that because the longer you're waiting,
the more you know you're working from behind with everything
so and the more.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
That you risk having some division on that coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
The players that were brought in and are like oh weird,
seem like a great course of action.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
Mark, Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
And I know you are just everywhere this weekend through
the final, So thank you for taking the time.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
To join us.
Speaker 11 (56:05):
Thank you for having Yeah, we love it.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Thank you, Mark, thank you. I'm nervous about the Lakers situation.
Also like Lebron.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
Also like Lebron, like kind of like it came out
when Dan Hurley was talking. He was on the Herd
this week and he shared like, yeah, you know, Lebron
and I like had some conversations.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
We were texting each other.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
And he told me, you know, if I'm here with
the Lakers next year, I.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Would like to have you in Philadelphia. Lebron was what
he was spotted having lunch in Philadelphia with the seventy
six ers coach. I mean, it could be, it could
be behaving.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
Everything's a thing.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
Though Lebron is a media mogul, he knows what he
is doing. He also has made it very clear that
he wants to play with his son, Bronni. And who's
gonna like, maybe take him in the second round or
sign him as like an undrafted player.
Speaker 4 (57:00):
I don't know. There's so much.
Speaker 5 (57:01):
There's so many it's it's hard to have. It's hard
to have a personality like Lebron. I mean, Lebron is
one of the best basketball players to ever walk the
face of the earth. But it's hard to have that
personality in an age where players do have so much control,
because then like.
Speaker 4 (57:16):
The NBA is the league where your stars do.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
To control and controlling like personality.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Region, it's insane. It's the same to look at all
the other sports. How much power these star players have
in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (57:28):
And I'm not saying they shouldn't, to be quite clear,
but when you have a guy like Lebron who has
been on so many teams, who has so much experience,
who knows so much in his own right.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
How do you tell him, no, that's not going to work.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
Yeah, you can't tell and he's gone. Then he'll regret it.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Goes Stry requested trade, as we've seen with some of
the star players.
Speaker 4 (57:49):
Around the league.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
So this is going to be a very interesting situation
once these finals are over, which could be Monday night.
Speaker 4 (57:55):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
We're going to take a quick break here, but when
we come back. Statues speeches in mind game. You're listening
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And I love it. Yeah, yeah, there's a little.
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Bit of and so it's stuck ever since. And I
have people that call me Krmie.
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Yeah, we do.
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Thank you for hanging out with Karmie and me. I
say it like in every one of our intros.
Speaker 5 (59:28):
I was at Ryan Jensen's retirement party a couple of
weeks ago, and literally the players that were there.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Like Cardie, well, yeah, I feel I feel like when
it's your social media name, that's what people.
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Know you as.
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Oh yeah, for sure.
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Always.
Speaker 2 (59:41):
All right, let's get to Wednesday night this week, because
the Patriots inducted Tom Brady into their Hall of Fame.
It was a star studded event. Jay Z opened the show,
but let me just say, whoever's on that fog machine,
what a little overboard over You can see jay z seconds.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
Performance, but it made his entrance that much well, it was,
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I was like, I hear it sounds like he's live,
but I don't actually see him, right, Is he there?
Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yeah, he's got a.
Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Like rapping along.
Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
See while he was walking back, him and jay Z
were like rapping back and forth.
Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
It was, Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
There were so many really cool moments about this night,
Like first, I want to give a shout out to
Tom's speech because he absolutely I mean, he's slay And
did we think.
Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
It was going to be anything other than amazing because
he is the goat. The quote that like.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Went around for everybody was like, to be successful at anything,
you don't have to be special, you just have to
be what most people aren't, consistent, determined and willing to
work for it. There was also another moment where he
was talking about Bill Belichick. And he's like, it wasn't you,
it wasn't me, It was us, and no one can
tell us otherwise. I get chills every time. I love
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little things like that. And we've gotten a couple of
cool moments now inside like the respect relationship, because obviously
we know they never had dinner together, and they never
went and played golf together when they were working together,
but there was always that mutual respect.
Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
We're really there was very.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Clear boundaries between head coach and quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, but like we've now kind of gotten like an
inside look of the respect that they had for each
other between the roast and now this Hall of Fame situation.
But there was another cool moment with Peyton Manning, who
was Brady's biggest rival during their careers. They faced each
other what seventeen times combined for nine Super Bowls, eight
league MVPs, and Manning was in attendance and he shared
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a story at the ceremony where he said, Tom, let's
get together. Let's go under the radar, don't tell anybody
we're coming in. And then of course Tom flies in
on mister Kraft's private plane. But they lifted weights together,
they threw together with these high school receivers.
Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
They said, they took.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Their phones away and if you tell anybody Tom and
I are working together, then we're friends.
Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Were going to kill you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
But like, I would have just loved to have been
a fly on that wall during that workout, like what
do you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
What are you talking about? What are you doing this?
Is this a respect thing?
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Is this a mind game to try to Like if
you're friendly with them during the off season, then maybe
I can get inside your brain during the regular season.
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Are you observing?
Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Are you like?
Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
There's so many questions I have here.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And we know that Tom is an extremely mental mind
game mass so was Peyton manning.
Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Yes, no, this was It's all of the above. These guys,
I feel like they know at this point they were
in the height of their careers. What Peyton said, they
are the ultimate competitors, but they also just love football
and they wanted their legacies are so important to them
and what their legacies did for the game itself huge
And in order to have the best competition, you need
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to learn from each other. And I feel like that
was part of the whole process. Is Tom never stopped learning,
never stopped learning. Going back to the speech that Tom gave. Yeah,
Like he talked about how hard football is, yes, and
how much it teaches you and all.
Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
They that should be playing sports.
Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
That's why he loves the game. And I feel like
Peyton is very similar.
Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
But also so when I was with the Bucks, Yeah,
and when we won the Super Bowl, Tom Brady came
in with Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Tom Brady comes in. It's the COVID year.
Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
It's all this crazy stuff, so like we didn't have
the access that we usually have.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Ye, so I had to get most of these accounts secondhand.
Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Yeah, like it used to be before COVID that I
was allowed, like in the locker room right after the game.
I could hear the speeches, I could do all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 11 (01:03:25):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
That didn't happen that year.
Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
And now there is this lure that I found out
about at the Super Bowl after party where Tom didn't
really speak the entire season what like I mean like
he talked to his like, he didn't he didn't rally.
He left it up to other people to rally the
troops for most of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
There was a few select times where he did. Yeah,
he said some stuff before the Super Bowl. Yeah, I
heard from so many different players that came up to
me and told me you should have heard Tom's speech. Yeah,
And I was like what, And They're like, what was
it about? They're like, we can't even do it justice.
It was a generational I have never heard anything like
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this before, the way that the war and the legend
of this speech just emulated throughout the entire party.
Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Everybody started to hear.
Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
About this absolutely insane speech ye that Tom Brady rattled
off before the game, before the game that fired them
up so much to the point where the Chiefs didn't
even score a touchdown in that game, and I know
the offensive line we rout. I don't want to hear
it that perfectly encapsulated who Tom Brady was and likes
to see it. Then in his Patriots Hall of Fame
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induction where he just galvanized all of us that watched it.
I mean, nobody wants to keep hearing about how wonderful
Tom Brady is, but like he really was that out.
Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
What do you mean? He is the goat?
Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
He has more Super Bowl rings than any single franchise.
Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Yeah, I know, which is why people don't want to
hear about him that, Like he has been this dude
all the way through.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
And he wasn't the best team, he didn't have the
strongest arm, he wasn't the fastest guy out there.
Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
But like for that that, like he won the Super
Bowl with the Bucks, yeah the first year he was there.
Uh huh, and he like I just I can't tell
you how these guys like, I swear there were tears
in some of these guys eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yeah, when they were telling me about this speech after
the fact.
Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Yeah, So that's why. That another reason as to why
he is the go And are we surprised?
Speaker 11 (01:05:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
And now with Tom coming over to our Fox Sports broadcast,
I'm excited to hear more of these inside, behind the
scenes stories because like we're gonna get a whole.
Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
New side of Tom.
Speaker 11 (01:05:38):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
And he's funny too.
Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
He's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
I am ready for it. All right. Now, let's check
in with Nick Copensee. What's trippy? All right?
Speaker 10 (01:05:45):
Thank you very much. Us open a lot of competition.
They're about to head onto the back nine. Matthew Pavaughn
is the solo leader, the Frenchman at six under.
Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
He's done well today.
Speaker 10 (01:05:56):
Three under four is round. But a lot of familiar
names on the later, Tony Fenut, Bryson de Shamba, and
the newcomer Ludwig Obern, who finished second at the Masters.
They are all tied for second, one shot back of
Pavon Roy McElroy two shots off the pace at four under.
One of the best performers today, Colin moric Cowa. He
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shot four under today, giving himself a chance he is
even par for the entire tournament. Elsewhere in the NFL
reports a Bengals receiver T Higgins has signed his franchise
tag and is expected to report to training camp next month,
but a long term deal for him is considered unlikely
at this point. Coming up tonight at eight eastern, we've
got Game four of the Stanley Cup Final, the Panthers
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trying to become the first team to sweep the final
since the Red Wings did it to the Capitals back
in nineteen ninety eight. In baseball, the Orioles placed right
hander Kyle Bradish on the fifteen day injured list with
a ucl sprain to his elbow. A couple of finals
on the diamond, the Blue Jays just finished off a
shutout of the Guardians five to nothing. In Toronto, Cubs
handled the Cardinals five to one. Yoda Imanaga struck out
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six and seven innings. Twins and a's were postponed due
to reign in the Twin Cities. They'll play a doubleheader
tomorrow at College World Series. Has been great so far.
In a great game today, Kentucky and NC State tied
at four, last of the ninth, the winning run on
third here with two ounce for Kentucky. Also have a
Florida and Texas A and M that'll play coming up
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at seven Eastern.
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Alex carme back to you.
Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Ah, thank you neck.
Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. M Alex Curry here
with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from the Tyre
dot Com studios in Los Angeles and it's time for
another edition of Mini Camp Round Up and Carmen.
Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Yeah, well, well, well where is Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
He did not show up to the mandatory mini camp
this week after giving a speech you guys that they
needed to be focusing on winning and fully committed to football.
Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Now, this is what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Anything in this build that we're doing that has nothing
to do with winning needs to be assessed.
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Everything that we do has to have a purpose.
Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
The BS has nothing to do with winning, has to
get out of the building. He took that literally, but
he's literally not in the building. He's literally not in
the building for mandatory, mandatory mini camps. So let's break
this down of why it's shocking but also very on
brand for Rogers.
Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Like no, like he gave that quote at the end
of last season.
Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Which heated yea in January.
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Four snaps before snapping his achilles with this team, so like,
there has been so much.
Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
A team that gave up a lot to get him
and gave him a.
Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Lot everything, everything preaching about making football your priority, and
here he is in his first opportunity to like really
be with the team war mandatory yeah camp, and he's
not making it a priority. I know he is not
making it a priority. And the justin Aaron Rodgers have
a lot to prove this season their favorite in fourteen
of their games, they are in six primetime games. And
(01:08:59):
again we have only seen four snaps from Aaron Rodgers in.
Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
The Jets uniform.
Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
So like Charles McDonald said it too, like from a
football standpoint, yeah, this doesn't matter because he was at OTA's,
which is not something that he had done for the
last few years with the Packers, he made sure that
he was there for everything. So like two days of
mandatory mini camp in a vacuum, Yeah, doesn't matter. This
guy's been playing for twenty years, Like, does not matter.
(01:09:28):
That's not the point, right, Yeah, here's the thing. You
can't go out and say that everything that you know
that doesn't have to do with winning has to be
out of the building and then be out of the
building for mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Also, you fed Robert salag your head coach to the Wolves.
Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
Yes, the New York media is no joke, No, and
like from being a team player, stamp Like from that standpoint,
this is so like it's just it's one thing after
another with Rogers and like even if whatever or he's
doing is important, it doesn't sound like the Jets were
given a heads up. You fed your head coach and
undermines your head coach in front of the New York media,
(01:10:09):
Like you put your players in position to have to
answer for your actions, which is the absolute antithesis of
a leader. Like this is not being a leader at all.
And you are the veteran, you are the quarterback, you
are the captain of this team. You have we talk
about how much influence NBA players have in the NFL.
(01:10:30):
Aaron Rodgers has arguably the most influence of any single
player still playing in the league right now. He got
them to hire Nathaniel Hackett, he got them to hire
his friends in Randall Cobb and whoever else that wouldn't
have a job if it wasn't for him being on
a roster. This when you demand all of these things,
(01:10:51):
you need to be able to give back, and Aaron
Rodgers doesn't hold up his end of the bargain almost ever.
Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Once again, you're talking about the Jets and Aaron Rodgers
and it has nothing to do with the football. That's
the part that's mind blowing to me. Like, if this
is something you knew that you were going to do,
that you were aware of, get ahead of it. Let
everybody knows, Hey, is he not going to be at
mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
We're all aware. We don't need to address it. It's
none of your business.
Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
And also if it is important, even if it is
your like, if it is important, just tell people what
it is.
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah, I mean, we're literally in the Where's waldo of
where is Aaron Rodgers right now?
Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
And it's a hot topic. Of conversation, So maybe that's
what he wanted.
Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
No, Aaron can't go more than a month without being
in the new cycle.
Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
He just can't. It's it's calculated at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Then let's move on and let's move to the Chargers
because they've got their eyes on winning this season after
hiring Jim Harbaugh And in case anybody forgot, Harball will
be the fourth head coach that Justin Herbert has played
under in his four seasons, and he spoke recently about
playing for Harba.
Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Let's listen to that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
He's a competitor.
Speaker 6 (01:11:58):
You know, he's done such a great job taking this
team and getting them to where he wants them to go.
You know, he's won wherever he's at.
Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
He's a guy that everyone wants to follow him play for.
I'm so really excited to get to play for him.
Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
So you can already feel that there is a shift
in the Chargers because there's a respect right now on
both ends and they have belief that they can win.
Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Because we heard from Harbaugh at camp this week. We
heard Herbal.
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Talked about.
Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
You don't have our guys, guys everything you want and
all that wonderful thought stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
So I don't know about Justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
Yeah, that gives me hope.
Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
They're also like they were five and twelve last season,
so I definitely think they're going to turn that around.
But they also have a new looking offense, right they
don't have Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler. They're in
a tough division again, like Chiefs been the best team
in the Chiefs the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Well, I mean, the Broncos are in a new direction.
Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
You have Sean Payton finally getting his choice of a
quarterback with a lot to prove as well.
Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Raiders also new beginning. But who knows.
Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
How much of a jump do you think Justin Herbert
can take with a winning coach like Carboss.
Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
So I'll tell you why I think this might work,
And it actually doesn't have a lot to do with
Justin Herbert, which kind of goes back on I mean,
I think Justin Herbert's a penomenal quarterback. He has not
been given a fairshake. He is still young to I
fully expect his career to continue to blossom. But why
I think this might work is because Harbaugh is zigging
while the rest of the league is zagging.
Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
What he's always done.
Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
Football is cyclical, So it's become a passing league, right, Well,
that's not the brand of football that Jim Harbaugh plays.
Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
He plays that smash mouth.
Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
Downhill power run game where you have a quarterback that
compliments the smash mouth football. And with the passing league,
defenses have evolved to be lighter and faster and a
little bit more complex, but they're not equipped to account
for a running game like Jim Harbaugh could deploy in
the NFL based on what he did at Michigan.
Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
So I have to think.
Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
That this will this will at least tell us like
where the league is going, because you look in San
Francisco and what Kyle Shanahan can do and he's constantly evolving,
but his offenses are predicated on that pro set the
twenty one personnel.
Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
You have multiple running backs on the field, weapons.
Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
A lot of weapons, but a lot of versatile weapons
that you can deploy in different ways, which makes it
hard for defenses to defend you in the way that
now Jim Harbaugh. If you have like kind of a
running back by committee, which kind of seems like what
they're about to do, yep, you have to have defenses
account for multiple running backs on top of Justin Herbert,
who is an athletic quarterback. He can scramble. He's not
(01:14:42):
really a running quarterback, but he will he'll scramble. But
he also has an arm. So you have now a
multifaceted offense that is different than what most teams deploy
these days.
Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
And I just think that maybe it could work.
Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I think it's gonna work. Also, like we're going to
really get to see Justin Herbert. Right, We've been giving
him the benefit of the doubt these last four seasons
because he hasn't had that consistency, and he's had four
coaches over four seasons, and like that, as we're hearing now,
like there wasn't that respect, there was turmoil there.
Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
What they weren't on the same page.
Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Now we also had a head coach, so.
Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Exactly now there is no excuse. Chargers schedule. They kind
of have a slow roll into the season versus Panthers
or Raiders. Panthers Steelers before Chiefs in their fourth week
and then by week five, so I mean they have
kind of a three game a really early by but
three game warm up to get ready.
Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
But let's let's let's make sure that we're playing the
foundation and not expecting too much in the first year
because it still is a jurasically different system, a new coach.
Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
All other stuff. Top coach, top quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put expectations on like
a winning season.
Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
I'll do that, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
We're gonna take one more break here, but when we
come back, it's our feel good story of the week.
Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
We'll gome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry
here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from attire
dot com Studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending
the last two hours. Variety of carme and me. Oh yeah,
the music. Yeah, it's been a good one today.
Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
We love a variety.
Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
It's been a.
Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Good one today. You one else was fun to watch
this week. We had a lot of like member Berry's, Like, oh,
member Tom Brady with the Patriots week, I've never heard
that Member Berry's. Yeah, No, oh, you don't watch South Park.
There's like a whole thing about Like.
Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
I mean, I haven't watched it in years.
Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Hey, Mamma Sta Walls Mamma tat twas the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (01:16:37):
I was called Cartman when it first came out all
the time, and it made me like not want to
lie as a Carmen because of Carmen. So like in
grade school when south Park first came out, I couldn't
escape that.
Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
It's really funny because I used to like Tim Salmon
when I worked with the Angels, I'd be.
Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
I'd call him Be and he was like, what is that.
I was like, just watch, just watch south Park. It's
Tim Dima. I can't I love it. We're big south
Park people. But anyho.
Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
The member Berrys this week are coming off back to
back Super Bowl wins, looking to become the first team
to try to three p but they unveiled their Super
Bowl rings five hundred and twenty nine diamonds, thirty eight rubies,
the removable top with the game women winning Tom and
Jerry play design engraved on the top of the ring
(01:17:22):
and then on the bottom it was like a field
with like player ponds in the bottom and then says.
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Back to back fetty pieces, was that like little I.
Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Thought they were supposed to be players.
Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Well, I thought they were like in the shape of
the Lombardi Trophy, and I thought that they were just like,
see this is what you went too much?
Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Too much, you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
I thought they were like little like you know when
you play those games like they it remind me of
those Yeah, remind me of like little like I thought.
Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Lombardi trophies and it supposed to be like confetti on the field.
Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
I love this. I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Like whatever, the ring's insane, there's also a typo which
we talked about earlier, which is a proof.
Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
That you've won too much because you don't take designing
these rings series too many.
Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
But like they have won three super.
Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Bowls in Patrick Mahomes in their last.
Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Five years in the Patrick Mahome era, and the only
time they've really been challenged was like Tom Brady the
one we just talked about, ye and then yes and
then Joe Burrow losing in the AFC Championship Game. But
I the question is like, can they threepete because we
haven't seen that.
Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
We just heard Jason Kelsey share that he's not retiring
anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
He mean Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Sorry, yeah, what I said, Travis Kelsey, thank you, thank you.
I was just watching I was watching like one of
their clips, like probably when I was doing this, and
like wrote down Jason Travis not retiring anytime soon, and
he's going to keep playing until the wheels fall off,
which they kind of are a little bit like he has.
(01:18:50):
He hasn't been one hundred percent hen for the post
the last couple of seasons. He's turning thirty five, and
I'm I'm going to say, and I've learned the hard way.
As long as Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelcey are
all working together, you.
Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Can't count them out. No, I mean supposed to, cannot
count them out.
Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
This is supposed to be a down year for the
Chiefs and they still won the Super Bowl. So it's
like it's over for all of you in the NFL.
Like if if Patrick Mahomes was able to will this
team to a Super Bowl, which.
Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Again with new like rookie weapons, yeah, with.
Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Quote unquote no name weapons other than Travis Kelsey, Like
he is one of one in so many different ways,
because there are quarterbacks that are willing their teams to
super Bowls. You can will your team in the regular season,
as we've seen with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
They were talking about earlier.
Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
Exactly, But when the postseason rolls around, the margin for
error is so small, yeah, that you don't see people
being able to do it all by themselves because it
is the ultimate team game. That all went out the
window with Patrick Mahomes this last year where you were like,
all right, this is the one year that the Chiefs
are vulnerable. You've got so much turnover, You've got young
guys that no one really knows like you. Also, you
(01:20:02):
don't have a ton of them like the Packers had
young guys, but like a ton of them, so you
really never knew how to defend them because you didn't
know who was gonna pop off.
Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
But what to do with Jordan Love This was like
the first time we're seeing him in a full season.
Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
But like the Chiefs weren't like that.
Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
The Chiefs had relatively no name players like Darius Tony
is still like one of the guys that's relevant on
your team roster, Like that's just wild to me. And
you still won the Super Bowl, Like this was your chance, NFL,
this was your chance to knock them all. Yeah, lamar,
I mean yeah, but like this was your chance.
Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
They thought everybody thought everyone was picking against and.
Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
The Samferd that's going forty nine ers and like Kyle Shanahan,
this was your chance.
Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Now what like you can you cannot. You cannot tell
me that you're counting them out, Like no, they can't
do it.
Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
They're not gonna three p They're not going to do this.
Do you not remember last year?
Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Do you have that short of a memory where everyone
was like, nop, this is the year the Chiefs aren't
gonna do it. And this would seven apart hardest, like
worst season in his career, and this was.
Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Seven apart from the Patriots dynasty.
Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
This would set to Patrick Mahome would like apart from
in six years, I mean, the Pats won three and
four whatever it was, but they didn't win back.
Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
To back to back three pet three peat.
Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Chiefs could do it, and sheeps are very easily.
Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Thank you so much for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.
We'll see it next week, same time, same place.
Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Have a great weekend,
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here
with Carmen Vitale. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
With Carmee and me.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
We're on a good one, you guys. I'm just gonna
let you know.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We left the car in a full dance party. Sure,
we let the beat drop. We were like, we were
listening to Caigo Radio on the way in and we
stayed in the car for an extra minute.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
To just like fully bang and everything. I'm so ready.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I am so ready for today, and I'm so thankful
that you guys are hanging out with us.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Also, happy summer of soccer.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Euros cacked off yesterday on Fox Spain beat Croatia. This
morning we have Italy against Albania on right now. It's
not up on the screen, but I think it was
two to one last time I checked one.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
What did you halftime? There we go?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's why?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
What did you just tell me? Please? Carmen just had
the most hilarious thing.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Apparently ahead of this match outside of the stadium. Albanian
fans snapped a bunch of spaghetti in front of the
Italian fans what.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Italians were just like on their knees. It was the funniest,
funniest video.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
It's so a family see Italian discrimination. Yeah no, that's hilarious.
We a family.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Friend is Sean Peck and the childhood actor from Nickelodeon,
and he does these videos where he'll like take a burrito,
take a bite out of the middle and be like,
how are you now? How's your day now? And this
is like one of those things.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's going up to an Italian act.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Snap, snap, how about now? How are you feeling that?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, my heart breaks along.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
With I love it so much.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Copa America starts next week on Thoughts.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It is just you guys it we're on the lot
as well as here at the radio station. It is
madness for summer of soccer over there. Oh yeah, I
am so excited. Uh yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
NBA fanels, you guys will go on. Luca and the
Mass finally woke up last night. Lucan Kyrie combining for
fifty point Celtic starters only combined for forty four like
monster win, you guys' third largest margin of victory and
finals history. Now they go back to Boston game five
Monday night. We'll see if they can keep it going
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Speaker 4 (02:39):
Situation or lack thereof.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
We have producer Patrick with us today, Technical producer Chris Purfett,
Nick Cope at.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
The news desk. But let's talk some money, you guys.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Our first big quarterback contract during minicamp was signed. The
Jags made Trevor Lawrence the highest paid quarterback per year
with Joe Burrow now with a five year, two hundred
and seventy five million dollar extension with.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Two hundred million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now you do need to remember this doesn't kick in
for two years until twenty twenty six, when the quarterback
price will be even higher, which is why I think
this was a smart move for the Jags. For that reason,
they know they're not moving off of Trevor Lawrence. This
is their guy, and as we've seen, the price for
quarterbacks keep going up with each contract. So let's take
(03:29):
a look real quick of where he's ranked, right, because
he is now tied for the highest paid Trevor Lawrence,
Joe Burrow tied at one with fifty five million a year,
Jared Goff fifty three million a year at number four,
Justin Herbert fifty two point five million a year, Lamar
Jackson at five at fifty two million dollars dollars a year,
and at six Jalen Hurts at fifty one million dollars
(03:52):
a year.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Now, none of.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
These top paid six quarterbacks have won a Super Bowl.
Three of them have been to a Super Bowl, but Burrough, Goffen,
Hurts and what's crazy to me? But again, this is
why we keep saying he did a team friendly deal.
The best quarterback in the league is not even in
the top eight highest paid quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes is ninth
(04:16):
on that list. A three time Super Bowl champ, two
time MVPID three times, Super Bowl MVP. Now, I will
never be mad at a player for getting paid, Like,
you have a very limited window of opportunity as an athlete,
especially as a football player. The average football career is
a little over three years. Quarterbacks a little higher because
(04:37):
that includes everybody is like four and a half. So
when you have the opportunity to capitalize on this, you
have to take it. And Trevor Lawrence got lucky that
the quarter back market is where it is right now. Now,
in case you need reminding, quarterback is the most important
position on these million billion dollar franchises. So at some point,
(04:58):
if you believe this is your guy, you're going to
have to pay him.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Should he be the highest paid quarterback in the league? Eh?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Now?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Eh, He's only going to be the highest paid quarterback
for like, I don't know, yeah, anywhere from two months
to six months. And this contract is going to look great.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's gonna look amazing. I mean it's crazy though, because
like he's had sixty turnovers in his first three seasons,
which included an NFL high twenty one turnovers in twenty
twenty three. But you know what, good for Trevor, Now
go and prove that you deserve this.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
And here's the thing about Trevor Lawrence also, yeah, is
that you know from all this discourse about Kayla Williams,
I am not a fan of assigning anyone the generational
title before they've even play a snap of.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
The NFL football. He kind of got that too, kinda.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
He absolutely did.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, this was a guy that was supposed to be
generationally because of what he did at Clemson. And that's true,
he had a wonderful college career. But the blast quarterback
I felt comfortable using the turn generational for was Andrew
Luck coming out.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
And then he bailed before he was thirty.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Hey, listen, I'm not mad Andrew Luck. He played everything
to a tea. That man deserves all the flowers. But
here's the thing, by any other Staders, if we hadn't
had that bar of expectations set so high for Trevor Lawrence,
this is a guy, a twenty four year old by
the way, Yeah, coming off back to back four thousand
yard seasons.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's made the Pro Bowl twice. He took the Jacks
the playoffs in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
He has engineered five comebacks, six game winning drives. And
for context, Lamar Jackson, who has played twice as long
as Trevor Lawrence his six years compared to Trevor's three,
He's had eight comebacks and ten game winning drives. And
we think of Lamar Jackson as one of those clutch quarterbacks.
He's got two MVPs under.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
His belt during the regular season.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, deserve, But like that's what I'm saying is like
Trevor Lawrence is on that same track when it comes
to clutch time. Some of these like advanced metrics or
like things that matter.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, and so I am not Obviously, the Jacksonville Jaguars
feel like he is their guy and they're willing.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
To and they've never had their guy.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They've never really had their guy, and now they're finally relevant.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
You cannot let him go. You had to pay him.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
No, because the flip side is what like, that's what
I like all of these conversations. We need to get
it out of our heads that only elite quarterbacks get
paid this kind of money. It is just the quarterback
who signed the latest contract it gets his money if
you are seen as a franchise player. So whether or
not you think Trevor Lawrence should be a franchise quarterback
is irrelevant because the Jackie and Jaguars think that.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
He and he is.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
He is the franchise quarterback. Jacksonville Jaguars have made him
a franchise quarterback. So your opinion on Trevor Lawrence is
completely irrelevant. And I'm saying the collective you, not you,
the collective you like, I'm like, all right.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Come out we getting spicy today.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Come out with me, bro, not you collective you. All
these people that are arguing against like what has he done.
He's got the same stats as Danie Jones, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I don't care. The Jacksonville Jaguars have said this is
our guy. And so in that sense, like you said,
you need to pay him sooner rather than later because
that price is only going in two years.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
This doesn't kick in for two years. Can you imagine
where this is going to be. It's gonna be at
least ten probably ten million dollars more.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, and you locked Trevor Lawrence up.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Now you have him under contract for the next seven
years until this man is thirty.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
One years old.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
That the longer this contract goes on, yeah, the more
of a discount that's going to become and.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
They're seeing with Patrick Mahomes exactly.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
And because you have this length of a contract with
your quarterback, that allows you cap flexibility to change and
manipulate his cap hit to surround him with a better team,
which is again why Patrick Mahomes signed a ten year deal.
Patrick Mallomes is going to see every bit of that
five hundred million dollars. Oh yeah, And so that's why, yes,
it looks team friendly from like an average sense, but
(08:51):
like you have to think about, like is this quarterback
going to get that amount of money and Patrick Mahomes
is going to get every sin of that, oh eventually, and.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
He deserves all that and more, probably doesn't.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
It gives the Kansas City Chiefs flexibility when it comes
to Patrick Mahomes's cap hit so that he didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Have to hit the cap What did Cynthia call it?
Creative accounting?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Creative accounting, that's what this is.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's all what this is.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
You can leverage, you know, certain years in the contract,
you can push money down the line, you can do
all that kind of stuff if you need to because
you're getting close and you want to make these playoff
pushes and all that other stuff. So I am love
the fact that Trevor Lawrence signed this deal. I love
the fact that the Jags signed Treylor Lawrence to this
deal because again, he's twenty four years old. He's had
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a good, not great start to his career, but he's
still an above average quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Being improvements each year.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Also, he went into like a dumpster fire situation and
franchise Jack's had.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Back to back first round picks. Yeah, like, what.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Is the reason right for a team in the league
for back to back years.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Again, he took them to the playoffs in his second year,
and I'm not one to advocate for wins being a
quarterback stat they're not a quarterback stack, but he's been
given a limited amount to work with. Yeah, his defensive
staff was completely fire after this year, like completely clean
house quarters, like everything. Yeah, so much stuff was you know,
upended in Jacksonville. So just like give him a chance.
This kid guys play and Tom Brady playedelue forty five.
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That's not the norm. But like quarterbacks play until their
late thirties. Yes, you can seemably have fifteen more years
of Trevor Lawrence and he is still on an upwards dejectory.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, no, this was a great deal for the Jags,
considering once again, his contract doesn't kick in for another
two years. But the next question is what does this
mean for the other quarterbacks waiting to be signed, because
they got to be feeling pretty good right now because
the price tag just went up, especially again if you're
looking at Trevor's track record of where he's at right now.
(10:40):
So this is where Dak and Tua and Jordan Love
absolutely are sitting, are sitting pretty especially with teams that
want to remain relevant and in that super Bowl window,
because both Dak and Tua have had really strong regular
season numbers and Jordan Love an insane back end to
his first season.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
But let's start with Dak because.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
He is rumored to want sixty million a year, which
is a big jump, you guys, from fifty five to sixty,
like an extra five mil to go over the where
the quarterback market is right now. And the Cowboys also
need to figure out if they're going to pay Micah Parsons,
Ceedee Lamb and Dak in a laundry list of people,
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like what order are they going to do this? The
level of importance for each And I know we just
said like when you can get your money, go like
get that bag as an athlete, if that's what you
want it for. But I will say, like, just Dak
is coming off his best season yet he finished second
in MVP voting. He was he had the yeah had
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most passing touchdowns second and passer rating third in passing yards.
And this is a crazy like stat that I saw
this week. When you compare Dak Prescott and Patrick Mahomes
last fifty regular season starts, it's like crazy, how I
dole it is. Mahomes thirty six and fourteen, Dak thirty
three and seventeen. Mahomes one hundred and five passing touchdowns
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Dak one hundred and five passing touchdowns. Mahomes thirty nine interceptions,
Dak thirty eight interceptions, Mahomes ninety eight point nine passer
rating DAK one on one point three passer rating. Mahomes
sixty six point eight completion percentage, DAK sixty eight point
four completion percentage. So it's crazy like how identical their
regular season stats are. But again, the big difference and
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the most important part is the playoffs. Mahomes has three
Super Bowls in five years, Dak is two and five
in the playoffs, so it's this is a very interesting
situation for Dak. But he is going to get paid,
whether it's the Cowboys who are gonna pay him, or
he hits the open market and another team's going to overpay.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I don't well, I don't think it's overpaying. It's just
the market value at this point.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Like that's the thing is, So the salary cap went
up a lot more than it usually does this past year,
which is why you saw a jump in a lot
of these contracts, including quarterbacks. Also, you obvious I saw
the Dustin Jefferson contract. Yes, that allowed for it, and
it should go up again this next year. But the
thing with Dak Prescott is I think that this Trevor
Lawrence deal then became Dax floor.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yes, fifty five million is now Dax floor.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So if he were to re sign with the Cowboys
the cheapest they could get them get yeah, realistically it
would be fifty five million a year, and that wouldn't
be technically resetting the market, which is an important part
of this because I think Dak should and could reset
the market again if he hits free agency.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Because teams.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
We'll get into a bidding war for Dak Prescott because
there are plenty of teams that believe that they can
get to a Super Bowl with Dak Prescott. I take
such an issue with I'm not even a Cowboys person,
Like I'm not.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, but you live with a Cowboys person.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Still, I'm not a Cowboys person. Yeah, But this whole
narrative of.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Organizational failure on behalf of the Cowboys in the postseason
being pinned.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
On one man in.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
What we all call the best like the most complete
team sport we have.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Football is the ultimate team sport?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
How many times do you hear that?
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Then?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
How do you pin the failures.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Of an entire franchise on one man on the field? Listen,
can Dak play better in the postseason? He absolutely can,
Please do not get it twisted. He needs to step
it up. But his defense is averaging it lets up
over thirty points a game in the postseason. That is
the average.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Also, I talk about this all.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
The time, and I started World War three on Speak
a couple weeks ago because I said, Dak needs more
to get him through the postseason. Gotten a lot he's
having no Listen to me, listen to me. His skill
players are lacking. And I will point back to a
team that reached the Super Bowl that I am very
intimately familiar with, in the twenty twenty Bucks. They signed
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Tom Brady that year. Did they only sign Tom Brady? No,
they signed Rob Gronkowski to number one target can pull
him out of retirement?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Was Gronk Tom's only weapon on that team.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
He had Mike Evans, he had Chris Godwin, he had
Leonard Fournette, he had Shady McCoy who was brought in
to be a veteran presence in that running back room
because Leonard Fournette was going to benefit from that, and
Leonard Fournette did benefit from that, so Tom Brady benefited
from that. The point is the Bucks knew that the
greatest quarterback of all time still needed help. Not necessarily
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for the regular season, because one man can will you
to success in the regular season, but because of the postseason,
it becomes a completely different game and the margin for
error is so small. If you look at the roster
that the Dallas Cowboys have put around Dak Prescott, especially
this last year, you have Ceede Lamb. That's great. Where
are all these quarterbacks that are doing it on their
own with one guy. You could argue Patrick Mahomes last year,
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but Patrick Mahomes is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
One of one, Patrick Mahomes, but Travis Kelsey is also
one of one. But also he was not one hundred percent.
He was also injured and not at the playoffs. He
turned it back on because that's what Travis Kelsey does great.
And if I'm looking at yes and if I'm looking
at those two rosters, Dax and Patrick, I would take
Travis Kelce over Ceed Lamb because Travis Kelsey is a
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tight end that presents different types of mismatches for defenses
than a wide receiver can. That's also the comfort too,
like do you have a guy that you know that
no matter what happens, he's going to be able to
read your mind and show up where I'm susabe.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
And CD can be that for Dak, has been that
for Dak, he is a one of the best receivers
in the league. Both track not enough, Oh no, you
need more. So Dak is absolutely deserving of getting paid.
He is absolutely deserving of that sixty million dollar mark,
which he's not He's not seeking. That was refuted by
some of the Dallas Cowboys beat writers. That is what
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he has projected to get.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And they're right.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Dak is not sitting there being like I'm demanding sixty
million dollars, although he should and he could, and we
can't argue with that because sixty million dollars, fifty million
dollars is already the going great for a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, we've now seen it be at fifty five.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, because of Trevor Lawrence, Yeah, Joe Burrow, all these guys.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
That is the floor for Dak Prescott. He will get
over sixty years.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It's gonna be interesting. Lads are getting paid. We're gonna
take a quick break here. But when we come back,
can Luca keep the MAVs alive in Game five?
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Speaker 2 (18:33):
Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here
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Speaker 4 (18:41):
You have a dance party, right. Thank you for spending
your Saturday afternoon with Carme and me.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
We're on a good one today and we're hoping that
we'll just kind of like bleed that through the radio
station and you guys all have an amazing day back
at home.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
But last night, the NBA Finals will go on.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Luca and the MAVs finally woke up last night in
a monster win. Luc and Kyrie combined for fifty points.
Celtic starters only combined for forty four points. Like, congrats
to Luca and the MAVs for avoiding the sweep. That
was one of the most impressive bounce back games I've
ever seen in the finals. But that needed to happen
(19:20):
because we witnessed Luca have a complete frustration breakdown in
Game three.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I didn't hear enough people talking about this, what he's injured.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, no, I talked about this yesterday on the Herd.
I was like, you have to take into consideration he
is dealing with back and Nissa.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Like walking back. Game three he couldn't move.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Oh yeah, so you have to imagine that that adds
to the frustration because you're trying to overcompensate and do everything.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
But bottom line, when you are the leader of a team, you.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Have to learn to control your emotions, use and channel
that fire in a different way, not to the rest.
When you're like you're fouled out of a game with
four minutes left to go and your team loses by seven,
and you are the best player on the team, the
leader of the team, and the reason that this team
is in the finals right now.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
That can't happen. No, that cannot happen.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That was an embarrassing moment and situation for Luca in
game three.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
But what matters. You can't look back at the past.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You got to look at how he responds, because all
you can control is how you react to an unfortunate situation,
which was his fault in game three, and he did.
Look what he did. He took responsibility and he even
said after the game that was on me. I need
to get back to having fun, and he did. They
came out and they absolutely dominated and.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Moss pulled their starters in the third quarter like.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Well, and what was most impressive though, is that that
frustration was then channeled into the defense that Luca showed
finally because he forced missus on Boston's first six attempts
with him as the primary defender. Yeah, he forced Drew
Holliday into four eternal Yeah, where Drew Holliday hadn't had
a single turnover in this theories up until that point.
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That is what you needed to see because you need
to see an all around game from Luca. You needed
him not to be a liability on defense, and you
also needed to see guys like Kyrie step.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Up and help him.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
He did, and I mean they were I had to
commend the maps just in general because of the fact
that they were so aggressive in the paint. Yeah, but
then also made it back to play.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
They played defense. They played defense for the first time
this series. That's what happened mass play defense. Did you
see the really cute video after the game of Luca
and Kyrie's dad like shaking hands and like holding hands
and like touching heads and like celebrating together.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It was it was it was really cute.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Like you could tell there was just an energy shift
within not only like within the building, but like.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And that it was even if it was just like a, hey, guys,
we can't get swept. No, Like, even if it was
just that, like, hey, we're probably not going to come
back in this series, because I don't think they're going to.
But we're not going to go out like this. We're
not going to go out on a sweep. Yeah, We're
going to at least put up a fight. And if
that is what rallied the troop and that is all
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that the MAVs can muster, I.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Guess that's enough.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yaah.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I mean, it would be insane for the Celtics. We'll
squander a three to zero lead in a series, which
has never been.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Done in every finals now, There's never been a comeback
from being a three in a series to win the
best of seven.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Right right, It's just I don't think it's going to happen, especially,
you know, going back to the Garden. That's a whole
other thing. But I'm glad that the MAVs showed the
fight that we knew that they were capable of.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I also don't want to downplay what the MAVs did,
but this was one of the worst games we've seen
from Boston.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Oh absolutely all season.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So It's like how much credit do you give that
to Boston just like completely just having a down down game,
or like how dominant Dallas was.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
It was like the.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Perfect storm for both were both right to have like
the third.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Our amendment home, Yeah, you had all that, but again
you have to give credit to the Maps were playing
defense because that is what stifled the Celtics. Maybe them
seeing that they're capable of that can carry them to
another win.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But I just I still don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You're going team no, no, no, you're going back to
the garden.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I'm just yeah, I'm just happy that MAVs made it
a bit of the series at least for a night,
and we're going to get another game on Monday, like
just something.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, and then that also or I mean.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Boston wants to win at home, so they were just
like sure the Maps can have this one. We're going
to turn it on. I mean, they have been playing
with their food all season, so we're all serious. I
heard postseason.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yeah all right, I don't know, like.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I mean, like I said, I preface that these are
the conspiracy theorists, but it was now now Boston does
have the chance to close it out.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, as like as a Lakers fan, and I'm living
in the past, wearing my Lakers shirt, like pretending how
we used to be in the playhoffs late to the finals.
I'm just happy that Boston didn't sweep. I'm just so
happy that sweet might be a gentleman sweep. But uh,
we'll see. Now, let's check in with a COVID.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
See what's trudre.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Well more to your point. Game five the NBA Finals
coming up on Monday. According to tick pick, currently the
most expensive ticket on record for a sporting event in Boston.
Cheapest get in price for Monday Night at the Garden
one thy, seven hundred and fifteen dollars. News in the
NFL reports a Bengals receiver T Higgins has signed his
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franchise tag and is expected to report to training camp
next month, but a long term deal for Higgins is
considered unlikely at this point. Third round of the US
Open from Pinehurst, number two is in progress. Crowded leaderboard
at the top, Ludwig Aberg at the top at six
under par, Matthew Pavaughan is one shot back at five hunder,
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and you've got a cluster at four under including it.
Tony Finow Roy McRoy and Bryson Deshambeau. But Obert had
the lead at the start of the day and he
has won under for his round. Got Game four of
the Stanley Cup Final tonight at eight Easter and the
Panthers trying to become the first team to sweep the
finals since the Red Wings did it to the Capitals
in nineteen ninety eight. Baseball, the Orioles placed right hand
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or cal Brandish on the fifteen day injured list with
a UCL sprain in his elbow. Got a bunch of
games in action, most of them have just started. But
you got the Cubs leading the Cardinals of five to
one in the eighth inning. Also the Blue Jays shutting
out the Guardians four to nothing in the fifth. Twins
and A's was postponed due to rain in the Twin Cities.
They'll play a doubleheader tomorrow. Alex Carmen back to you.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Thank you, Nick. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. Alex
Courry here with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from
Attire dot Com Studios in Los Angeles, and it is
time to bring in our first guest. He's the host
of Exemplift podcast. NFL writer for Yahoo Sports. Please welcome
Charles McDonald. Thank you for joining the show.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Roberts, whoo hey, guys, how's it going.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Thank you? We're doing great.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Let's talk some Let's talk some football here, because Trevor
Lawrence got paid this week with his contract extension five years,
two hundred and seventy five million dollars. Now, Carmen and
I were talking about this off the top of the show.
He came into this league with extremely high expectations, put
on a pedestal here, So there's been a lot of
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talk of do you think he earned this extension? Give
us your thoughts of was this a great deal for
the Jags and was this the right deal for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Look, anytime you can get two hundred million dollars guarantees,
I think it's probably the right deal for you. But
I do think this is the right deal for the Jaguars.
And I've i as my little group of football writers
that I've talked to a lot, and we're all pretty
big Trevor fans, So we've been bracing ourselves for this
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idea that when he got that contract, which I don't
think anyone should be surprised they got it that there
would be some backlash to it because he was billed
as like, you know, the next Peyton Manning Andrew Luck
type quarterback. But I also think people need to remember that,
like Trevor Nevers said that about himself, that was us.
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That was our fault, the mis making on that, and
he's not Peyton Manning. But I do think he's a
He's a really really good quarterback that kind of just
hasn't been set up to, you know, fully succeed in Jacksonville.
They tried last year with the Calvin really things, and
it turns out a year away from professional football can
be a little bit detrimental to your ability to play
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professional football on a consistent level. And then they've you know,
they've made investments in Christian Kirk and they having Ingram
who are nice players but not like true number one.
So yeah, I think that they have the quarterback right
for the future. It's just kind of like the skilled
players moving around it that they still need to figure out.
And if they can do that, man, I really wouldn't
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be that concerned. But you know, it's like you have
one piece of you have the most important piece. I
think but there's still so much that needs to be
built out around it.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yeah, and now with this contract structured as it is,
you have the flexibility to kind of control Triver's cap
so you can put a better team around him all
that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
We talked about that too. But this speaks kind of to.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
The larger quarterback market where it kind of becomes the
floor for these franchise quarterbacks, where like, all right, this
is just the going rate now. And I know so
Charles is a long suffering Atlanta Falcons fan.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you knew I was gonna have
to go here, Charles.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
You look at like the Kirk Cousins deal and how
that kind of set expectations when he's thirty six coming
off in Achilles injury, which is arguably one of the
worst injury you could possibly have as a football player.
Where does this market go from here? And is it
just going to kind of keep climbing And are these
guys that are in line to get paid like Jordan
(28:45):
Love like to a Tago Butloa and like Dak Prescott,
should they be expecting closer to that six number?
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Now?
Speaker 11 (28:53):
Well?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah, if you're like if you're
a brock Purty, right.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, that's a fast You're just.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Looking at the stats, comparing your stats to other quarterbacks.
That which is what you're gonna take with you when
you go negotiate your deal. But yeah, you should ask
for sixty million dollars because that's what this game is.
You know. I think people forget every single time. People
forget it's not the best quarterback. That's always the high
stake guy like that homes like the ninth high stake quarterback,
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even after like his raises that he got in.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
The past couple of years, which is crazy inspective.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Winning, it's crazy, it's crazy. It's just like who gets paid, uh,
you know the most recently. So what I think is
really interesting about uh where we're going to be by
the time, you know, Week one kicks off, is you're
probably gonna have like Trevor Lawrence, Jerrick Off two a
tongue of Illowa under contract for contract extensions this offseason.
(29:50):
I think that those three are like a great test
case for what what what should teams be paying for
at the quarterback positions because when I look at Trevor Lawrence,
I because you know, that's someone to me who at
times has like the talents to literally carry the jacks
ostense when when things aren't working around them. You know,
I think with Jared Goffe's too tungue ballo, we've seen
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they can be a little bit more dependent on the
pieces around them to actually be productive players at all.
So I think that what we see from them because
two is obviously going to get paid. He's going to
be in the fifty five million dollars per year range
or maybe even a little bit more. Uh, Because, like
as I just said, the towns works. But I think
the type of quarterback that teams are handing out big
money too, because look, Derek Goff is making more money
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than Lamar Jackson Josh Allen. Now, yeah, So I think
that that's something teams should probably consider moving forward.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Well, and in that vein too, elite quarterback play is
so hard to find. Like the people that are saying,
how could you pay Trevor Lawrence, this, that and the other?
Trevor Lawrence is an above average quarterback? Where what is
your option? What what is your what is the alternative
to paying these guys that are above average quarterbacks? Because
it's like Patrick Mahomes has spoken for Josh Allen is
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looking for like your Atlanta Falcons went out and got
Kirk Cousins and then went and spent a top ten
pick on quarterback because you just don't know, like what,
I feel like there needs to be a little bit
more talked about when it comes to the fact that
a truly good quarterback, a franchise quarterback is such a
hard and rare commodity to come by.
Speaker 12 (31:21):
Yeah, Kirk Cousins just got one hundred million dollars guarantee
a put torn Achilles and the Vikings we're trying to
bring them back because remember they put out a statement
like right before Kirk.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Signed with Atlanta. So yeah, the teams are don't pay
anything for this. I do wonder if they're if the
bubbles ever are gonna yop though, where a team looks
at like, you know, not to not to you know,
to hate on them too hard, but a team looks
like a TUA and says, no, I can't I can't
pay that sixty million dollars per year. I can't do it.
(31:54):
It's just not it's not good enough value. And I
think the value, the value idea with quarterbacks is all
is interesting because like what quarterbacks, you know, value obviously
I would I would say at this point, Lamar Jackson
contract that value, Josh Allen contract obviously value Derek Goff.
We'll see, we'll see if he can, you know, end
up overcoming what they have to cut off the roster
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as his cap kids grows over the years. But even then,
like he's still a capable player in his own right.
It's just like how high can the ceiling be? So
I think that's also part of the Trevor Lawrence equation,
where you know, you have these moments where he looks
like he could be in that Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson's class at times, but just not consistent. But
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if you can harness that and get that movement, then
this deal is going to be totally worth it. And
even if he just ends up being like the tenth
best quarterback moving forward, right, it's still probably gonna be
worth it, right, you know, all right.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Let's switch gears.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Because Aaron Rodgers missed mandatory mini camp with an unexcused absence,
we still don't know where he is. And the fact that,
like what Pat McAfee like who he goes on that
show every week he also has no idea where he is.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Do you think this is a big deal that he
missed these practices?
Speaker 6 (33:06):
No, No, I don't. I don't think it matters at all,
to be honest with you. It has become something that
gets talked about because it's Aaron and he can't help.
But like, do these things where he's just kind of
messing with the orders of operations actually ms rich to
me and he's you know, he pondered the idea that
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Aaron might have gone to Egypt this week. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So we've had he's at like the Kennedy fundraiser we
have somewhere in Europe, we have he's in Egypt.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
This is the like where's waldo of Aaron Rodgers? Where
is it?
Speaker 10 (33:39):
You?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
All over the place? I do think that Soft Gardner,
the Jet's cornerback, he put it pretty pecactly on score
to the other of the day, where basically was like
I'm paraphrasing here, He's like, man, this guy's plays in
the NFL for twenty years.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
The three day.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Practicing June is not really mattering that much. Also, Aaron,
He's been around for literally everything else this season this
off season. I mean, I don't know what he was
doing this week. But Aaron's not even the most interesting
Jets holdout this week. We're the one that h Hassan Reddick,
who they created for in April. First, Yeah, hasn't done
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anything yet because he's looking for a new deal as
the enders the last year of his deal with the
Jets a reflex fine with the Eagles. But here's the thing,
Robert Salay and Joe Douglas might not be in a
position to hand out multi year deals right now. So
that's going to be the one that is interesting. But Aaron,
I don't think this matters. He already knows Nate Hackens' playbook.
He's just doing Aaron things.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's it's just been like why not get ahead of it,
you know, be like, hey, he's not going to be
here this week. A post of putting Robert Sola on
the hot seat and then like having him answered that's
a lot of like.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
You're a meeting, you know what you're doing, can't meeting?
You know what you're doing? Now he's top five our
conversation probably a purpose.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
I'll about say. I like Robert sala. I think he's
a good guy. He was greaty for his coach. But
when he gets in front of a mic, in front
of these situations, it never makes it better. You always
have to tell back to the next day and clarify. I thinks,
so yeah, video a little proactivity will be good for
the chest, but I think in.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
A lot of area, just a little.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Charles, thank you so much for joining us. Love your insight,
Thanks for having me, of course.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Now when we come back, it's time for the dues
and the Dons in sports. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 4 (35:44):
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Speaker 3 (35:46):
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So he was he was awesome.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
He's so funny. You guys, you need to follow him
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Speaker 2 (35:56):
That in I just in the NFL No, no, no, you
just told me that, and I just ad a full
deep creep at our commercial break and that was great.
But now it is time for the dues and the
don'ts in sports this week.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
High I love that putting a spotlight on the don't.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
The subject brings me no joy.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
All right.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I'm gonna start with a do okay, do recognize and
praise greatness. The world lost a legend this week when
Jerry West passed away, and he will go down as
one of the greatest NBA figures of all time. And
I love seeing just the appreciation from every single level,
every single person not only involved in basketball but in
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sports that came out and just shared these stories.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
There was a lot of like old clip.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Surfacing and there was one where he's like, you know,
I'm not a dog. People say like, you got to
be the dog in sports. I'm the wolf and I
eat the dog. I was like, that's what I'm talking
about I.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Mean, he will the three different separate dynasties.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
He had the Lakers in the eighties with Magic and Kareem,
Lakers in the two thousands with Kobe and Shack, the
Warriors dynasty with Steph Draymond Clay and brought in Katy,
that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
So, yeah, has lost some legends in the last couple
of weeks. I know, I know, Walton Billy.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Oh, I just got chill.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
But you're right.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Seeing all the stories about these guys is so it's
so cool, and it's so cool to see the legacy
that they had off the basketball court too.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Okay, I also have a due. Yeah, do double check
your work.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Oh hat, I know where we're going with this.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
The Chiefs had their ring ceremony in the year Air
this week, and the ring itself, it was engraved on
every single one of them on the inside of the ring.
Underneath it had the scores of all of their games
in the playoffs and it listed the Miami Dolphins as
the seventh seed when they were the sixth seed.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
In the AFC.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
The Steelers were the seventh seed and that is now
on everybody's drink.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
It's just like, how much were the rings. They were
like what how much were each one was worse with
an insane amount of.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Like seventy grand something like that. I mean, it's all
as this is.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
This is how I know.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
This is how I know you won too much? Yeah,
because like you you're like, eh, right, here's the design.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
We're doing this again, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, speaking of winning a lot, My next is also
a do do show up and support your teams. Boston
packed two arenas there did the same night, and neither
had a live game happening inside the building. The Garden
was packed to watch the Celtics MAVs game in Dallas,
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and then Gillett Stadium was packed for Brady's Hall of
Fame induction.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, yeah, there it is Boston fans. Like I'm from Chicago.
I take pride in being a Chicago fan. Yeah, like
I know that that city can rally. But like Boston
and Chicago are like right, neck and neck. Who I
will fully admit that Boston is such a good sports city.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Philly, Philly's great too, Philly's up there.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Yeah, but I actually have don't in relation to that
whole situation. Don't underestimate Rob Gronkowski because in the roast
of Brady, everybody just kept telling how dumb robis and
I was like, He's not that dumb. And at Tom's
induction on the red carpet, Gronk did some really fun
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math about what was all taking place, why it was
taking place.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Why do you think he like bo did this on purpose? Okay,
keep going, keep going anyway.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
He like he was talking about like, oh, well, it's
happening in the sixth month of the year because Tom
was a sixth round pick.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Also other stuff. He did all this fun maths and
then he said it's.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Happening in the year twenty twenty four because that's the
age of the girls that Tom and Bill Balichick are
both dating, twenty four year old, and that Bill Belichick
is dating and brought her to the induction ceremony. No,
it's a former cheerleader. A cheerleader, she's twenty four years old.
She and Bill Belichick are dating.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
No, And now.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
All of a sudden, Rob Gronkowski looks like the most stable,
like less wild of the three of them, because Grok
has been with his girlfriend Camille, who's thirty two years old,
for years and.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Like she also has an extremely successful was also a cheerleader.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah she was.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Yeah, but she like she's a successful in her sports
illustrats on suit moodel. She's got a business bunch of
business ventures, just like Robinson.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
She Patriots, truly, she was Patriots. That's a big no.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
No, we're getting past that.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
But I just all of a sudden, rob Gronkowski looks
like the most responsible of Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
That like if he dropped that at the roast.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Oh, the roast is happening in twenty twenty four, because
that's the age of do we get a.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Bill Belichick roast? Because oh my god?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Like also, like who are you Bill Belichick?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Learning?
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Working now?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Now?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Like about him, we're getting personality for the first time
in our lives.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
You were dating someone that could probably be like you're wet.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
He got caught sneaking out of her house. I don't
know if it was her house, but it was somebody's house.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
They talked about that during the road was brought up.
That was brought up during the roast. But like that,
how old is Bill? Like are we in a sixty?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (41:07):
That could be your granddaughter. That's a little.
Speaker 11 (41:13):
All.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
She's a philosopher, what she is an entrepreneur at a philosopher.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
What there is so much to unpack the Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
All right, we're gonna take a break when we come
back in the mayf Stay alive.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (41:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Welcome to hour two of Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex
Curry here with Carmen Vitali. Thank you for spending your
Saturday afternoon with Karmie and me. We've had a blast
of a first hour. And then tonight I'm going to
Dodgers versus Royals, my first game since Opening Day. I
am ready to watch Yamamoto in real life for my
first time. The big pitching pick up by the Dodgers
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this year. Also, like, not sure how many people had
the Royals crushing it this season on their bingo car
are They're one of eight teams with forty wins in
baseball right now? Like, who, I can't wait to watch
Bobby Junior on the wheeler.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Yeah. Been to a Dodger games that I worked for them,
which is like.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Ten years ago. Yeah, that's great that you live here
in La.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Figure that out. We'll go back.
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The NBA Finals are still alive, you guys, thanks to
Luca and the MAVs going off last night as a
Lakers fan.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
And I'm rocking my Lakers shirt.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I was just crossing my fingers and toes that Boston
didn't get a finals sweep, So thank you. The other
big news last night, Charles Barkley announced that, after twenty
four years on TVs, retiring after next season, he is
in TV.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Gold and just that's a loss, man.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Everything they've won, like I think, like the every single year,
like that whole TNT show set the bar for pre
postgame show.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
It was just as he was saying that, because everyone
was like, Oh, where it's he going to go? How
much money is he going to get? Like anywhere? I
love Yeah, TNT and NBA TV. That's it.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I love it. I'm done.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
End of an era, Well, next year, end of an era.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
But we're going to dive deeper into last night's game
with our next guest, NBA insider Mark Medina.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Thank you for joining the show.
Speaker 11 (43:32):
Alice kar thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, I'm happy that we get to continue to talk
about the NBA Finals. I mean, that was one of
the most impressive bounce back facing elimination games we've seen
in the finals, so much so that I mean the MAVs.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Pulled their starters in the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
What was the biggest difference that you saw from Luca
in the MAVs last night?
Speaker 11 (43:52):
Well, I think the biggest difference with Luca is that
he lived up to what uh the criticism he was
getting in Game three with not complaining to the officials,
playing better on defense. Though it was very much a
bounce back game, but I think in fairness, the entire
group a lot more effort, a lot more help for
Lucas so that the burden wasn't on him. And look,
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I don't want to burst your bubble, and I'm sorry
to do it because I know you're a Laker fan.
I don't think that they're going to be the first
team ever to overcome an O three thirds.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
But I can do a gentleman suite, but just not
like a sweet stuff.
Speaker 11 (44:28):
But I will validate. They did make some history with
the game last night. You know, that was the third
most lopsided game in Final history. And while we've seen
the playoff games that each game can have its own identity,
I think that there is something to be said that
there can be a carryover with Game five because of
how well they played, as well as just the fact
that they got some rest in the fourth quarter. And
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there's a lot of uncertainty with Chriss Borzingis's health situation
in Boston, so we will see for an interesting Monday
what Game five looks like.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Now, obviously you could play better defense. The MAVs in
total played better on defense shut down the Celtics in
that game. Do you think that that was more the
elevation of the MAVs or was it more Boston taking
their foot off the gas knowing that if they didn't
win this game, they could turn around and win it
at home now next game.
Speaker 11 (45:19):
Yeah, very good point. Carbon. I mean, Dallas deserves all
the credited kudos that we gave them just earlier, but
we do have to keep in mind that it takes
two to tango, and Boston definitely let down its intensely.
And this is kind of this has been their identity
all season. When they feel that their challenge or have
to play their best basketball, they do. But when they
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feel like that they don't have to do that and
they can coast along, they help themselves to play with
their food and.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Having some exactly what Carmon said.
Speaker 11 (45:51):
So I suspect that that's not going to happen again,
especially they have an opportunity to close it out in
Game five on Money Day, but you never know. I mean,
I think that the thing with porzingis I don't think
that series defining necessarily. There were a few coaches I
talked to before the series started and thought Boston's so
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deep that Withoutzingis they're.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
Going to win.
Speaker 11 (46:15):
But anytime you get a team hope, a team confidence,
anything can happen. And again, I don't think it's enough
to win three more games in a row, but it's
at least enough that Dallas could win Monday and really
make this series more interesting than what we thought.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Okay, so then continuing on that, because no team has
ever come back from being down three in a series
to win the best of seven. Are you expecting the
Mouns to make this a series or is Boston closing
this out and winning it home on Monday Night.
Speaker 11 (46:44):
Yeah, that's the ultimate question here, I think can I
say both? Like I think Dallas w Yeah, I think
that it'll be respectable. We'll see a better version of Luca,
We'll see a better version of Dallas being a complete team.
But I think that we're going to see a much
better version of Boston with them plant their best. Maybe
we get some minutes from Persingus, maybe he's still out,
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but regardless, it'll be Jason Tatum, Jylen Brown, Drew Holliday,
Derek White at their best. They're at home, They're at
the Garden, and I know that it's going to be
celebratory for all the Sevics luminaries, rightfully painful for Lakers
luminaries because of the ring total counts that we're keeping
track of with the NBA's best rivalry. But yeah, I
think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
How much do you think Boston has been helped by
the fact that, I mean, they had the easier conference
when it got in the regular season and then this postseason.
I mean, it only took them fourteen games to get
to the finals. They were very well rested coming into this,
whereas the MAVs had to fight through a gauntlet in
the West, Like are we kind of seeing the disparity
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between the competition of each conference now manifesting in the
fact that Boston now seems to have more energy, has
been more dominant in this series because of the fact
that maybe they're just they don't have as much tree
on them.
Speaker 11 (48:01):
Yeah, really good point. I think we're seeing it, no
doubt because Boston outside of perzingis of course, but they've
been mostly healthy. You haven't seen, you know, signs of
fatigue for really their main guys. And I think also
on the worst end, we also didn't see Boston have
to play at its best in previous rounds because they
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weren't challenged, and we saw that once they faced a
more affordable opponent they did rise to the occasion. But
I think on the other hand, they do earn some
credit that they won most I think nine out of
ten games without porzingis so even though they played teams
that you know, were decimated with injury, especially with their
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main guys they had a key injury. Now it was
much different because their main guys are Jayson Tatum Jael Brown.
But he is their third option. He's a key part
of their machine and why they've been even more dangerous
than past seasons when they've fallen short in the playoffs.
So I think when I'm weighing all this to answer,
you know, the thrush Her question, I think the prevailing
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part is that their depth, talent, and continuity is prevailing.
But I think that what you mentioned about the landscape
that's certainly played I think a third or fourth factor
into all those.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Now we've seen what the MAVs are capable of, but
obviously not quite enough in terms of depth and help.
So where do the MAVs go from here, especially like
looking into the off season.
Speaker 11 (49:29):
Yeah, it's a really good question because if they fall
short inevitably, you always internalize what can you do better?
But I think that the good thing for Dallas is
that they addressed the pressing concerns that plagued them in
previous seasons of finding the right number two or one A,
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one B for Luca, and they've already found that with Kyrie,
He's not going to be a free agent. They resigned
him last year and they found the right supporting cast,
so it's not the Luca Show and only the Lucas Show.
So I think really it's going to be about assuming
that they lose this series, about improving from within and
building off that experience, and that might sound boring, but
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it's also in line with what most teams and stars
go through in the NBA playoffs. I mean, we've seen
this happen in Boston where they were knocking on the door.
They weren't quite ready yet, and now it looks like
they are, and no doubt they've made changes, but it's
mostly been around the margins. They haven't made the changes
with their main stars. So I think that's the most
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likely course that Dallas takes and the most realistic. But
I think the challenging part to wrap this up is
that the rest of the landscape is going to continue
to get more challenging.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
All right, well, let's move to the other big topic
that's been going on during these NBA Finals, and that's
that the Lakers offered Dan.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Early a six year, seventy million.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Dollar contract to become the next head coach, and he
declined it were you surprised at Hurley said, No.
Speaker 11 (51:00):
Not surprised, because I think that he was dealing with
two good options. And so when I conclude with this,
the sense that I got is that it was more
a factor that he had a good thing going of
two consecutive national championships. He's even in the age of nil.
He is the faith of Yukon. There's more stability there
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as opposed to any indictment on the many questions that
the Lakers have. Now no doubt, this obviously shows that
this isn't the Lakers of old, of their glamor franchise.
Anyone would just take any job offered to them.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Pay them to like get them if you really want them,
a little bit of low ball offer.
Speaker 7 (51:38):
Yeah, And that's the thing that's that's I think that
when I'm wrestling with that part about could they offered more? Yes,
they could have, I think in fairness though Dan Hurley's
even acknowledged that he didn't need it for leverage, like
he was already going to get that extension with Yukon.
And secondly, when you're looking at the marketplace, he was
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going to be still among I think top five on
all the highest paying coaches in the league and the
ones that are above them were you know, people like
Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich, and no disrespect to Dan Hurley,
but they obviously have more of a track recor with
the NBA. But yeah, I think to the larger point,
the higher number you get.
Speaker 11 (52:21):
Maybe that makes the difference. But I think when you
weigh all these variables, I think at the end of
the day, he stayed put because he concluded, I have
a good thing going. Why broke break something that is
or why try to fix something that isn't broken.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Now there are reports that JJ Reddick is a meeting
with the Lakers this weekend. What are you hearing and
is this now the Lakers' best option?
Speaker 11 (52:44):
Yeah? Really good question here because it's all fluid, But
I think as we speak, it's the most realistic option,
best option. It's tough because he hasn't coached before, but
it's what are the best options of AILA and James
Barreco is another good candidate, but he might be more
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inclined to go the Cleveland round because he's interviewed there
and he's a great coach. He has a relationship with
Anthony Davis. He knows, you know, off good, pretty good offenses,
but he's also had his own shortcomings as a head coach.
So I think the best and most realistic course of
action is hiring JJ Reddick, but also making sure that
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he has the right coaching staff around him to mitigate
the shortcomings of laugh of experience. But that's easier said
than done because not every experienced coach is willing to
be an assistant. Uh So that's the tricky part. It's
not just finding the right head coach, it's finding the
right coaching staff to address that coach's weaknesses.
Speaker 5 (53:46):
That was my question because I think what goes a
little bit under talked about when you have these guys
that haven't coached before, especially in the NBA, it's not
so much about, you know, their lack of experience when
it comes to actually doing the coaching things. And like
I mean, you know, JJ Reddick played forever, he was
a high level player.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
He knows what a head coach is supposed to look like.
But when you come in so Green.
Speaker 5 (54:09):
You don't have these guys that line your bench as
far as your staff goes, because you don't you haven't
worked with anyone in that regard. So who would be
some of the assistants, you would expect someone like JJ
Reddick to pull in to make up for, like you said,
his lack of experience.
Speaker 11 (54:26):
Yeah, I think Scott Brooks should be a pretty good candidate.
He had former head coach experience, and he has proven
that he's willing to be an assistant coach just recently
with Portland. I don't think that he's actually going to
be a candidate, but I do give the benefit of
the dow with Terry Stott. You know, he was a
pretty good coach in Portland. He's very well respected for
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his offensive acumen. The counterpoint might be, well, he was
with Milwaukee and that time ended very quickly when there
was some friction with him and Adrian Griffin. But that
I get is that that was more specific to Adrian
Griffin than philosophically a veteran assistant coach trying to step
on the toes of a head coach. But that being said,
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I don't think that's an option. I just think that
that's a good option. And then Rajon Rondo, he wanted
to fill fill this bucket, but he would fill a
different bucket of another good smart voice, former player could
at least start off on the player development route. But
this is a tricky puzzle. The Lakers have to figure
it out. And I know, you know, even though the
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sounds bizarre, the Lakers internally aren't necessarily saying we have
to have everything in place before the draft. But I
think objectively they gotta do that because the longer you're waiting,
the more you know you're working from behind with everything
so and the more.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
That you risk having some division on that coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
The players that were brought in and are like oh weird,
seem like a great course of action.
Speaker 4 (55:57):
Mark, Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
And I know you are just everywhere this weekend through
the final, So thank you for taking the time.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
To join us.
Speaker 11 (56:05):
Thank you for having Yeah, we love it.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Thank you, Mark, thank you. I'm nervous about the Lakers situation.
Also like Lebron.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
Also like Lebron, like kind of like it came out
when Dan Hurley was talking. He was on the Herd
this week and he shared like, yeah, you know, Lebron
and I like had some conversations.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
We were texting each other.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
And he told me, you know, if I'm here with
the Lakers next year, I.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Would like to have you in Philadelphia. Lebron was what
he was spotted having lunch in Philadelphia with the seventy
six ers coach. I mean, it could be, it could
be behaving.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
Everything's a thing.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
Though Lebron is a media mogul, he knows what he
is doing. He also has made it very clear that
he wants to play with his son, Bronni. And who's
gonna like, maybe take him in the second round or
sign him as like an undrafted player.
Speaker 4 (57:00):
I don't know. There's so much.
Speaker 5 (57:01):
There's so many it's it's hard to have. It's hard
to have a personality like Lebron. I mean, Lebron is
one of the best basketball players to ever walk the
face of the earth. But it's hard to have that
personality in an age where players do have so much control,
because then like.
Speaker 4 (57:16):
The NBA is the league where your stars do.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
To control and controlling like personality.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Region, it's insane. It's the same to look at all
the other sports. How much power these star players have
in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (57:28):
And I'm not saying they shouldn't, to be quite clear,
but when you have a guy like Lebron who has
been on so many teams, who has so much experience,
who knows so much in his own right.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
How do you tell him, no, that's not going to work.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
Yeah, you can't tell and he's gone. Then he'll regret it.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Goes Stry requested trade, as we've seen with some of
the star players.
Speaker 4 (57:49):
Around the league.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
So this is going to be a very interesting situation
once these finals are over, which could be Monday night.
Speaker 4 (57:55):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
We're going to take a quick break here, but when
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Speaker 2 (59:41):
All right, let's get to Wednesday night this week, because
the Patriots inducted Tom Brady into their Hall of Fame.
It was a star studded event. Jay Z opened the show,
but let me just say, whoever's on that fog machine,
what a little overboard over You can see jay z seconds.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
Performance, but it made his entrance that much well, it was,
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I was like, I hear it sounds like he's live,
but I don't actually see him, right, Is he there?
Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yeah, he's got a.
Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Like rapping along.
Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
See while he was walking back, him and jay Z
were like rapping back and forth.
Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
It was, Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
There were so many really cool moments about this night,
Like first, I want to give a shout out to
Tom's speech because he absolutely I mean, he's slay And
did we think.
Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
It was going to be anything other than amazing because
he is the goat. The quote that like.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Went around for everybody was like, to be successful at anything,
you don't have to be special, you just have to
be what most people aren't, consistent, determined and willing to
work for it. There was also another moment where he
was talking about Bill Belichick. And he's like, it wasn't you,
it wasn't me, It was us, and no one can
tell us otherwise. I get chills every time. I love
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little things like that. And we've gotten a couple of
cool moments now inside like the respect relationship, because obviously
we know they never had dinner together, and they never
went and played golf together when they were working together,
but there was always that mutual respect.
Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
We're really there was very.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Clear boundaries between head coach and quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, but like we've now kind of gotten like an
inside look of the respect that they had for each
other between the roast and now this Hall of Fame situation.
But there was another cool moment with Peyton Manning, who
was Brady's biggest rival during their careers. They faced each
other what seventeen times combined for nine Super Bowls, eight
league MVPs, and Manning was in attendance and he shared
(01:01:28):
a story at the ceremony where he said, Tom, let's
get together. Let's go under the radar, don't tell anybody
we're coming in. And then of course Tom flies in
on mister Kraft's private plane. But they lifted weights together,
they threw together with these high school receivers.
Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
They said, they took.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Their phones away and if you tell anybody Tom and
I are working together, then we're friends.
Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Were going to kill you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
But like, I would have just loved to have been
a fly on that wall during that workout, like what
do you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
What are you talking about? What are you doing this?
Is this a respect thing?
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Is this a mind game to try to Like if
you're friendly with them during the off season, then maybe
I can get inside your brain during the regular season.
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Are you observing?
Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Are you like?
Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
There's so many questions I have here.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And we know that Tom is an extremely mental mind
game mass so was Peyton manning.
Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Yes, no, this was It's all of the above. These guys,
I feel like they know at this point they were
in the height of their careers. What Peyton said, they
are the ultimate competitors, but they also just love football
and they wanted their legacies are so important to them
and what their legacies did for the game itself huge
And in order to have the best competition, you need
(01:02:45):
to learn from each other. And I feel like that
was part of the whole process. Is Tom never stopped learning,
never stopped learning. Going back to the speech that Tom gave. Yeah,
Like he talked about how hard football is, yes, and
how much it teaches you and all.
Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
They that should be playing sports.
Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
That's why he loves the game. And I feel like
Peyton is very similar.
Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
But also so when I was with the Bucks, Yeah,
and when we won the Super Bowl, Tom Brady came
in with Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Tom Brady comes in. It's the COVID year.
Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
It's all this crazy stuff, so like we didn't have
the access that we usually have.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Ye, so I had to get most of these accounts secondhand.
Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Yeah, like it used to be before COVID that I
was allowed, like in the locker room right after the game.
I could hear the speeches, I could do all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 11 (01:03:25):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
That didn't happen that year.
Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
And now there is this lure that I found out
about at the Super Bowl after party where Tom didn't
really speak the entire season what like I mean like
he talked to his like, he didn't he didn't rally.
He left it up to other people to rally the
troops for most of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
There was a few select times where he did. Yeah,
he said some stuff before the Super Bowl. Yeah, I
heard from so many different players that came up to
me and told me you should have heard Tom's speech. Yeah,
And I was like what, And They're like, what was
it about? They're like, we can't even do it justice.
It was a generational I have never heard anything like
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this before, the way that the war and the legend
of this speech just emulated throughout the entire party.
Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Everybody started to hear.
Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
About this absolutely insane speech ye that Tom Brady rattled
off before the game, before the game that fired them
up so much to the point where the Chiefs didn't
even score a touchdown in that game, and I know
the offensive line we rout. I don't want to hear
it that perfectly encapsulated who Tom Brady was and likes
to see it. Then in his Patriots Hall of Fame
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induction where he just galvanized all of us that watched it.
I mean, nobody wants to keep hearing about how wonderful
Tom Brady is, but like he really was that out.
Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
What do you mean? He is the goat?
Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
He has more Super Bowl rings than any single franchise.
Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Yeah, I know, which is why people don't want to
hear about him that, Like he has been this dude
all the way through.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
And he wasn't the best team, he didn't have the
strongest arm, he wasn't the fastest guy out there.
Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
But like for that that, like he won the Super
Bowl with the Bucks, yeah the first year he was there.
Uh huh, and he like I just I can't tell
you how these guys like, I swear there were tears
in some of these guys eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yeah, when they were telling me about this speech after
the fact.
Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Yeah, So that's why. That another reason as to why
he is the go And are we surprised?
Speaker 11 (01:05:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
And now with Tom coming over to our Fox Sports broadcast,
I'm excited to hear more of these inside, behind the
scenes stories because like we're gonna get a whole.
Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
New side of Tom.
Speaker 11 (01:05:38):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
And he's funny too.
Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
He's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
I am ready for it. All right. Now, let's check
in with Nick Copensee. What's trippy? All right?
Speaker 10 (01:05:45):
Thank you very much. Us open a lot of competition.
They're about to head onto the back nine. Matthew Pavaughn
is the solo leader, the Frenchman at six under.
Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
He's done well today.
Speaker 10 (01:05:56):
Three under four is round. But a lot of familiar
names on the later, Tony Fenut, Bryson de Shamba, and
the newcomer Ludwig Obern, who finished second at the Masters.
They are all tied for second, one shot back of
Pavon Roy McElroy two shots off the pace at four under.
One of the best performers today, Colin moric Cowa. He
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shot four under today, giving himself a chance he is
even par for the entire tournament. Elsewhere in the NFL
reports a Bengals receiver T Higgins has signed his franchise
tag and is expected to report to training camp next month,
but a long term deal for him is considered unlikely
at this point. Coming up tonight at eight eastern, we've
got Game four of the Stanley Cup Final, the Panthers
(01:06:38):
trying to become the first team to sweep the final
since the Red Wings did it to the Capitals back
in nineteen ninety eight. In baseball, the Orioles placed right
hander Kyle Bradish on the fifteen day injured list with
a ucl sprain to his elbow. A couple of finals
on the diamond, the Blue Jays just finished off a
shutout of the Guardians five to nothing. In Toronto, Cubs
handled the Cardinals five to one. Yoda Imanaga struck out
(01:07:01):
six and seven innings. Twins and a's were postponed due
to reign in the Twin Cities. They'll play a doubleheader
tomorrow at College World Series. Has been great so far.
In a great game today, Kentucky and NC State tied
at four, last of the ninth, the winning run on
third here with two ounce for Kentucky. Also have a
Florida and Texas A and M that'll play coming up
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at seven Eastern.
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Alex carme back to you.
Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Ah, thank you neck.
Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. M Alex Curry here
with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from the Tyre
dot Com studios in Los Angeles and it's time for
another edition of Mini Camp Round Up and Carmen.
Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Yeah, well, well, well where is Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
He did not show up to the mandatory mini camp
this week after giving a speech you guys that they
needed to be focusing on winning and fully committed to football.
Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Now, this is what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Anything in this build that we're doing that has nothing
to do with winning needs to be assessed.
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Everything that we do has to have a purpose.
Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
The BS has nothing to do with winning, has to
get out of the building. He took that literally, but
he's literally not in the building. He's literally not in
the building for mandatory, mandatory mini camps. So let's break
this down of why it's shocking but also very on
brand for Rogers.
Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Like no, like he gave that quote at the end
of last season.
Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Which heated yea in January.
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Four snaps before snapping his achilles with this team, so like,
there has been so much.
Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
A team that gave up a lot to get him
and gave him a.
Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Lot everything, everything preaching about making football your priority, and
here he is in his first opportunity to like really
be with the team war mandatory yeah camp, and he's
not making it a priority. I know he is not
making it a priority. And the justin Aaron Rodgers have
a lot to prove this season their favorite in fourteen
of their games, they are in six primetime games. And
(01:08:59):
again we have only seen four snaps from Aaron Rodgers in.
Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
The Jets uniform.
Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
So like Charles McDonald said it too, like from a
football standpoint, yeah, this doesn't matter because he was at OTA's,
which is not something that he had done for the
last few years with the Packers, he made sure that
he was there for everything. So like two days of
mandatory mini camp in a vacuum, Yeah, doesn't matter. This
guy's been playing for twenty years, Like, does not matter.
(01:09:28):
That's not the point, right, Yeah, here's the thing. You
can't go out and say that everything that you know
that doesn't have to do with winning has to be
out of the building and then be out of the
building for mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Also, you fed Robert salag your head coach to the Wolves.
Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
Yes, the New York media is no joke, No, and
like from being a team player, stamp Like from that standpoint,
this is so like it's just it's one thing after
another with Rogers and like even if whatever or he's
doing is important, it doesn't sound like the Jets were
given a heads up. You fed your head coach and
undermines your head coach in front of the New York media,
(01:10:09):
Like you put your players in position to have to
answer for your actions, which is the absolute antithesis of
a leader. Like this is not being a leader at all.
And you are the veteran, you are the quarterback, you
are the captain of this team. You have we talk
about how much influence NBA players have in the NFL.
(01:10:30):
Aaron Rodgers has arguably the most influence of any single
player still playing in the league right now. He got
them to hire Nathaniel Hackett, he got them to hire
his friends in Randall Cobb and whoever else that wouldn't
have a job if it wasn't for him being on
a roster. This when you demand all of these things,
(01:10:51):
you need to be able to give back, and Aaron
Rodgers doesn't hold up his end of the bargain almost ever.
Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Once again, you're talking about the Jets and Aaron Rodgers
and it has nothing to do with the football. That's
the part that's mind blowing to me. Like, if this
is something you knew that you were going to do,
that you were aware of, get ahead of it. Let
everybody knows, Hey, is he not going to be at
mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
We're all aware. We don't need to address it. It's
none of your business.
Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
And also if it is important, even if it is
your like, if it is important, just tell people what
it is.
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah, I mean, we're literally in the Where's waldo of
where is Aaron Rodgers right now?
Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
And it's a hot topic. Of conversation, So maybe that's
what he wanted.
Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
No, Aaron can't go more than a month without being
in the new cycle.
Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
He just can't. It's it's calculated at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Then let's move on and let's move to the Chargers
because they've got their eyes on winning this season after
hiring Jim Harbaugh And in case anybody forgot, Harball will
be the fourth head coach that Justin Herbert has played
under in his four seasons, and he spoke recently about
playing for Harba.
Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Let's listen to that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
He's a competitor.
Speaker 6 (01:11:58):
You know, he's done such a great job taking this
team and getting them to where he wants them to go.
You know, he's won wherever he's at.
Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
He's a guy that everyone wants to follow him play for.
I'm so really excited to get to play for him.
Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
So you can already feel that there is a shift
in the Chargers because there's a respect right now on
both ends and they have belief that they can win.
Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Because we heard from Harbaugh at camp this week. We
heard Herbal.
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Talked about.
Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
You don't have our guys, guys everything you want and
all that wonderful thought stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
So I don't know about Justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
Yeah, that gives me hope.
Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
They're also like they were five and twelve last season,
so I definitely think they're going to turn that around.
But they also have a new looking offense, right they
don't have Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler. They're in
a tough division again, like Chiefs been the best team
in the Chiefs the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Well, I mean, the Broncos are in a new direction.
Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
You have Sean Payton finally getting his choice of a
quarterback with a lot to prove as well.
Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Raiders also new beginning. But who knows.
Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
How much of a jump do you think Justin Herbert
can take with a winning coach like Carboss.
Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
So I'll tell you why I think this might work,
And it actually doesn't have a lot to do with
Justin Herbert, which kind of goes back on I mean,
I think Justin Herbert's a penomenal quarterback. He has not
been given a fairshake. He is still young to I
fully expect his career to continue to blossom. But why
I think this might work is because Harbaugh is zigging
while the rest of the league is zagging.
Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
What he's always done.
Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
Football is cyclical, So it's become a passing league, right, Well,
that's not the brand of football that Jim Harbaugh plays.
Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
He plays that smash mouth.
Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
Downhill power run game where you have a quarterback that
compliments the smash mouth football. And with the passing league,
defenses have evolved to be lighter and faster and a
little bit more complex, but they're not equipped to account
for a running game like Jim Harbaugh could deploy in
the NFL based on what he did at Michigan.
Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
So I have to think.
Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
That this will this will at least tell us like
where the league is going, because you look in San
Francisco and what Kyle Shanahan can do and he's constantly evolving,
but his offenses are predicated on that pro set the
twenty one personnel.
Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
You have multiple running backs on the field, weapons.
Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
A lot of weapons, but a lot of versatile weapons
that you can deploy in different ways, which makes it
hard for defenses to defend you in the way that
now Jim Harbaugh. If you have like kind of a
running back by committee, which kind of seems like what
they're about to do, yep, you have to have defenses
account for multiple running backs on top of Justin Herbert,
who is an athletic quarterback. He can scramble. He's not
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really a running quarterback, but he will he'll scramble. But
he also has an arm. So you have now a
multifaceted offense that is different than what most teams deploy
these days.
Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
And I just think that maybe it could work.
Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I think it's gonna work. Also, like we're going to
really get to see Justin Herbert. Right, We've been giving
him the benefit of the doubt these last four seasons
because he hasn't had that consistency, and he's had four
coaches over four seasons, and like that, as we're hearing now,
like there wasn't that respect, there was turmoil there.
Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
What they weren't on the same page.
Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Now we also had a head coach, so.
Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Exactly now there is no excuse. Chargers schedule. They kind
of have a slow roll into the season versus Panthers
or Raiders. Panthers Steelers before Chiefs in their fourth week
and then by week five, so I mean they have
kind of a three game a really early by but
three game warm up to get ready.
Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
But let's let's let's make sure that we're playing the
foundation and not expecting too much in the first year
because it still is a jurasically different system, a new coach.
Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
All other stuff. Top coach, top quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put expectations on like
a winning season.
Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
I'll do that, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
We're gonna take one more break here, but when we
come back, it's our feel good story of the week.
Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
We'll gome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry
here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from attire
dot com Studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending
the last two hours. Variety of carme and me. Oh yeah,
the music. Yeah, it's been a good one today.
Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
We love a variety.
Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
It's been a.
Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Good one today. You one else was fun to watch
this week. We had a lot of like member Berry's, Like, oh,
member Tom Brady with the Patriots week, I've never heard
that Member Berry's. Yeah, No, oh, you don't watch South Park.
There's like a whole thing about Like.
Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
I mean, I haven't watched it in years.
Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Hey, Mamma Sta Walls Mamma tat twas the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (01:16:37):
I was called Cartman when it first came out all
the time, and it made me like not want to
lie as a Carmen because of Carmen. So like in
grade school when south Park first came out, I couldn't
escape that.
Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
It's really funny because I used to like Tim Salmon
when I worked with the Angels, I'd be.
Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
I'd call him Be and he was like, what is that.
I was like, just watch, just watch south Park. It's
Tim Dima. I can't I love it. We're big south
Park people. But anyho.
Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
The member Berrys this week are coming off back to
back Super Bowl wins, looking to become the first team
to try to three p but they unveiled their Super
Bowl rings five hundred and twenty nine diamonds, thirty eight rubies,
the removable top with the game women winning Tom and
Jerry play design engraved on the top of the ring
(01:17:22):
and then on the bottom it was like a field
with like player ponds in the bottom and then says.
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Back to back fetty pieces, was that like little I.
Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Thought they were supposed to be players.
Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Well, I thought they were like in the shape of
the Lombardi Trophy, and I thought that they were just like,
see this is what you went too much?
Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Too much, you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
I thought they were like little like you know when
you play those games like they it remind me of
those Yeah, remind me of like little like I thought.
Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Lombardi trophies and it supposed to be like confetti on the field.
Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
I love this. I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Like whatever, the ring's insane, there's also a typo which
we talked about earlier, which is a proof.
Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
That you've won too much because you don't take designing
these rings series too many.
Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
But like they have won three super.
Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Bowls in Patrick Mahomes in their last.
Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Five years in the Patrick Mahome era, and the only
time they've really been challenged was like Tom Brady the
one we just talked about, ye and then yes and
then Joe Burrow losing in the AFC Championship Game. But
I the question is like, can they threepete because we
haven't seen that.
Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
We just heard Jason Kelsey share that he's not retiring
anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
He mean Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Sorry, yeah, what I said, Travis Kelsey, thank you, thank you.
I was just watching I was watching like one of
their clips, like probably when I was doing this, and
like wrote down Jason Travis not retiring anytime soon, and
he's going to keep playing until the wheels fall off,
which they kind of are a little bit like he has.
(01:18:50):
He hasn't been one hundred percent hen for the post
the last couple of seasons. He's turning thirty five, and
I'm I'm going to say, and I've learned the hard way.
As long as Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelcey are
all working together, you.
Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Can't count them out. No, I mean supposed to, cannot
count them out.
Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
This is supposed to be a down year for the
Chiefs and they still won the Super Bowl. So it's
like it's over for all of you in the NFL.
Like if if Patrick Mahomes was able to will this
team to a Super Bowl, which.
Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Again with new like rookie weapons, yeah, with.
Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Quote unquote no name weapons other than Travis Kelsey, Like
he is one of one in so many different ways,
because there are quarterbacks that are willing their teams to
super Bowls. You can will your team in the regular season,
as we've seen with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
They were talking about earlier.
Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
Exactly, But when the postseason rolls around, the margin for
error is so small, yeah, that you don't see people
being able to do it all by themselves because it
is the ultimate team game. That all went out the
window with Patrick Mahomes this last year where you were like,
all right, this is the one year that the Chiefs
are vulnerable. You've got so much turnover, You've got young
guys that no one really knows like you. Also, you
(01:20:02):
don't have a ton of them like the Packers had
young guys, but like a ton of them, so you
really never knew how to defend them because you didn't
know who was gonna pop off.
Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
But what to do with Jordan Love This was like
the first time we're seeing him in a full season.
Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
But like the Chiefs weren't like that.
Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
The Chiefs had relatively no name players like Darius Tony
is still like one of the guys that's relevant on
your team roster, Like that's just wild to me. And
you still won the Super Bowl, Like this was your chance, NFL,
this was your chance to knock them all. Yeah, lamar,
I mean yeah, but like this was your chance.
Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
They thought everybody thought everyone was picking against and.
Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
The Samferd that's going forty nine ers and like Kyle Shanahan,
this was your chance.
Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Now what like you can you cannot. You cannot tell
me that you're counting them out, Like no, they can't
do it.
Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
They're not gonna three p They're not going to do this.
Do you not remember last year?
Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Do you have that short of a memory where everyone
was like, nop, this is the year the Chiefs aren't
gonna do it. And this would seven apart hardest, like
worst season in his career, and this was.
Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Seven apart from the Patriots dynasty.
Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
This would set to Patrick Mahome would like apart from
in six years, I mean, the Pats won three and
four whatever it was, but they didn't win back.
Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
To back to back three pet three peat.
Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Chiefs could do it, and sheeps are very easily.
Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Thank you so much for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.
We'll see it next week, same time, same place.
Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Have a great weekend,
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