Alex Curry & Carmen Vitali Talk Redick As Laker HC, Caitlin Clark Vs Angel Reese Rematch, Tom Brady's Mind, and More!!

Alex Curry and Carmen Vitali talk about JJ Redick as the new head coach for the Los Angeles Lakers and what that means. Alex and Carmen also discuss the ongoing rivalry between Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese with a sizzling rematch happening shortly. Plus, Alex and Carmen talk more on Tom Brady's unique mindset, NFL minicamps, Reggie Jackson's speech on racism, and more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with
Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with
Carmi and me. I was Sam just pulling up around already.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, I mean after Brian, just I mean, listen, I
know the White Sox are bad. I know they're bad, Brian,
I don't need to keep hearing about how bad they are.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
It's not even bad.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's embarrassing, Okay, it is just like it's beyond bad.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
They're in a category of their own.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
My boyfriend keeps like updating me. It's like, oh, the
Socks lost again. You know, I do to know how
much they lost by I'm like, no, I don't want
to know.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
I don't care. I'm so checked out on the season
already I don't care.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, I mean, that's just a franchise that like there
is no like it's horrible from the top down inside out.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
They pulled back the curtains.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
In a couple of articles last year, players came out
talking about just people don't show up to practice.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
People don't show up to.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Like Luis Okay, yeah, you're living in the past.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Man, you're living in the past. So it's all of
Chicago sports. That's true. That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
What an epic week of sports we've had, right, NBA
crown they're champion?

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Is that Monday?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
He was Monday?

Speaker 4 (01:14):
I clocked that out of my head, you know, because
like a lifetime I got it was Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, Boston Celtics won their eighteenth NBA title, passing the Lakers.
You guys, I've been rocking Lakers gear throughout this entire
postseason just to like, didn't remember the good old days.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
No, I knew they were going to win.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
We all knew they were going to win. They were
they were the best team. Today I'm rocking a a
Lebron a.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Lebron Lakers shirt. It's very relevant, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I know we're going to get to that and ingest
a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
But also like summer of soccer on Fox, you guys,
every single day, Euros and Copa America are in full
swing right now.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, they're live right in front of us.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
We get Yeah, Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese rematch tomorrow,
already breaking ticket sale records so many, dude, that one's
going to be and USA plays tomorrow last night NHL Playoffs.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
We're getting a game seven, you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Like what Oilers have won three straight after going down
three Now I'm so torn, Alex because, like, it's such
an incredible bit that a Canadian team hasn't won the
Stanley Cup in.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
So long, and I don't want that bit to end.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
But at the same time, like, who deserves it more
at this point, the team with the best player in
the world, who cares so much or like much a
team from South Florida that is relatively young compared to them, But.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Like, I love runs like this. I was part of
the Kings broadcast in twenty fourteen when they went down
three to zero in the first round to the Sharks,
ended up coming back one four straight and then went
on to win the Stanley Cup. Like, it is not
an easy feat to lose your first three in a
series and then come back and win.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
No, Like it does not happen four times, situe.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, no, so this is good for them. Okay, good
for them. We're getting a game seven, you guys. We
deserve a game seven after that NBA Finals that.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Was just well, unless your unless you're a Florida Panthers.
Fay Florida. Yeah, no Panthers.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Fam.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
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have a rash Marcazi who's been covering the Lakers for

(03:27):
about twenty years, joining the show to give us the
inside scoop in about thirty minutes. We have forty nine
ers Beat reporter Tracy Sandler an hour two to break
down the whole Brandon Ayuk situation because it's good dramatic.
We also have producer Patrick with us today or technical
producer Iowa Sam Brian Finley at the news deck.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
So we're rockin'.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, we are rocking, But let's start with the big
news that hit after the NBA Finals, which is again
it's so crazy that like that happened Monday and then
the news all week waiting for it finally to drop.
Was the Lakers have reportedly hired JJ Redick as our
next head coach, and JJ just.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Called the finals on ABC, but he apparently met.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
With the Lakers vice president general manager Rob Paulinka, owner
Janie Buss last weekend and then Pelinka offered Redick the
job Thursday morning, according to sources. Now, nothing has officially
been announced yet by the Lakers. They haven't posted anything,
There isn't a press release. His buddy Lebron hasn't shared
anything yet. And JJ obviously has a strong relationship with Lebron.

(04:27):
He co Hos a basketball podcast together. And this also
comes a week after the Lakers offered early a six year,
seventy million dollar contract that he turned down early last week.
So there's a lot of interesting things here right, one
of them being Lebron is towards the end of his career,
so he wants to win now wherever he is. So

(04:50):
how did JJ sell to the Lakers on his plan
to win now? How does a d feel about this?
Because there are reports that JJ wasn't his first pick
and and he just signed his extension last year, so
he still has three years under contract until twenty twenty eight,
with a player option in the final year.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Like, will JJ be successful?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Will the Lakers give him enough time to get successful?
Like at someone doing this for the very first time,
because since Phil Jackson, no coach has lasted more than
three seasons with the Lakers, including Frank Vogel, who won
a title, the Bubble Title right in twenty twenty, Like
will they let him figure it out as a rookie
coach because he could be great? We just I don't

(05:32):
think anybody can really make a point that he's going
to be great or bad at something that we have
never seen.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yes, you don't have a sample size. We have a
sort of frame of reference for how he is as
a coach. You do see him spend what the first
five ten minutes of every podcast that he goes on
with Lebron breaking down certain aspects of the game during
a certain certain place. He gets on his little whiteboard
with his little red marker. Yes, he does all those
wonderful things, and he's very good about communicating that stuff,
which is why I think there's thing here with how

(06:01):
good of a coach he could be, because clearly he's
a good communicator. But at the same time, on a podcast,
you're breaking down basketball for fans. Yes, there's it's a
whole different thing when you're talking about the guys in
the room that you're now breaking stuff down to. Are
the elite of the elite. Yes, and so the communication
is a good sign for me. I think this could work. Obviously,

(06:23):
JJ Reddick was a good player in his own right,
a great player in his own right, has the track record,
clearly has the basketball mind. But my question throughout this
whole process and even now still is who's he bringing
with him? Who are his coaches?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Who's he surrounding yourself with, who has coaching and coaching
your experience?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Because when you are an experience coach, regardless of the
league that you coach, you are coming in with all right,
You're part of your interview is usually Hey, these are
my assistants, this is who I'm bringing in. This is
who's my stat Like they've done this, this and this,
they have this track record, they've been with me for
this long. Yeahad YadA, YadA. JJ Reddick doesn't have that

(07:02):
aspect to his interview, but he does have the most
important person currently in the Lakers organizations vote of approval,
which is Lebron Well.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Also, like I would say, he's still the most powerful
player in basketball in the NBA. And here's what we
do know, okay, because we do know a lot about JJ. Right,
He's an extremely hard worker. My good friend Richard Jefferson,
who was his TV partner this year, told me that,
So he's going to be prepared, and as you said,
we see him, yeah, one.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Of the most prepared players.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
He has a great relationship, as you just mentioned, with
the star player on your team, Lebron James. So he's
going to get that respect right out of the gates
in the locker room because Lebron's going to make sure.
He's going to make sure that happens. He also has
a great basketball mind fifteen years in the league. And
then his former coach, Coach k one of the greatest
coaches of all time, shared that JJ will build a
culture that is conducive to winning.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
And his belief in his ability when he was a
player was.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Top notch, and he can only imagine he's going to
have that same confidence and belief in himself over to
the coaching side.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
And he loves the game.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
He does.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
He loves the game. You can see it in his work.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You can see the appreciation that he not only has
for the players, but everyone around the game.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
JJ Reddick is a psycho. Yes, by his own words,
he went in a good.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Way, in a good way, a good sche No, when
you talk about you want a good psycho.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
I was gonna say yes. The uh.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
He went on the Poblatory Unpublatorious podcast back in January
and he said, I think a little crazy is fine.
What has served me well in life is this balance
of being even keeled but also being a psycho. Sometimes
that balance gets out of whack and I've dealt with
consequences because of that.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
But you need a psychoa.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
He's an obsessive personality to be the best what you're
doing it right way?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, and I think, but I also think that players
in the locker room really respond to that. And he
isn't that far removed from playing. He's only what six
months older than Lebron and though Lebron is the oldest
player in the league, but he's not that are removed.
So I think he's gonna be able to relate to
players and all of that. It's just the technical stuff.
It's the things about being a coach that you can

(09:08):
only be prepared for if you've done it before. Between
like the film cutups and the way that you structure
practices and the way you structure like your workouts and
all that other stuff.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Like all of that, there is.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
A housekeeping aspect to being a head coach that only
the head coach can do, and if you haven't been
in that position before, it's hard. So I need to
see him surround himself with some guys that have been
there before, and that's going to be the telltale sign
for me once this does get announced, obviously publicly and
officially and all.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
That other stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
It's just crazy because over the last twenty five years,
there have been nine coaches hired without head like previous
head coaching experience, and they've been successful, but most of
them not.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
With the first team that they were with.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Besides point, Steve Kerr right, he is liked created a
dynasty for NBA titles, but like Jason Kidd moved on.
He's doing well in Dallas. They were just in the finals,
but that wasn't his first stop. Brooklyn was only lasted
a year there. Doc Rivers didn't have a strong start
with the Magic his first five years, but a second
stop in Boston he won a title there. So you

(10:13):
have you have examples of players moving into the head
coaching role without that former experience, and you know, Lakers
are just.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
They're hope and he's a Steve Kerr. That's all you
can do.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Are you going to give like going back to your
earlier point, are you going to give him? Are you
going to give him the rope to like let him
have that experience, because then you run into something like
Steve Nash in Phoenix where it's like did they give
him enough time?

Speaker 5 (10:40):
I don't know, Yeah, it was like, but.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
You also have like a second coach in Lebron, Like,
you know, he's running. I was going to say, as
they say, like he is a coaching mindset one like
the one of the greatest players in the game, if
not the greatest whatever side your own.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Then what happens if they disagree?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mm, that's going to be an interesting power dynamic. Also,
like can he win with this current team?

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Right?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think they need one more big shooter. Yes, Lebron
still great, but he's towards the end of his career.
He's going to turn forty in December and father time.
You guys, it's it takes you a step back. He's
still an insanely incredible top player, but not the Lebron
that he was ten years ago.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Then you have a d who when he's healthy and on.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Great play, and then your third player, Austin Reeves like,
when he's your third, you need a little more death.
And we saw Trey Young put out a cryptic tweet
after the JJ stuff was announced. It was a little
hourglass emoj posting the glass but like so dramatic it
could I mean, that would be amazing. I think that

(11:53):
would work incredible. But he's still under contract, so the
Lakers would have to trade for him. They don't have
much What are you gonna like get of the picks
that you have left? And maybe this is also why
Lebron hasn't officially signed back with the Lakers yet, because
he wants to wait and see what they're going to
do heading into the NBA Draft next week.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
What moves are they going to make?

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Are they going to pick up Bronny?

Speaker 5 (12:13):
They're working against.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Young too, is that he's due forty three million dollars.
So even if you were to trade for him and
give up assets to trade for him, you now then
have to.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Pay him a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
And yeah, I mean, I think there's a couple of
reasons why Lebron is expected to opt out of his deal.
He's expected to opt out but remain with the Lakers.
That comes from the LA Times or report from Dan Wokie,
but more so than he wants to make sure that
the Lakers are going to sign Bronnie or whatever they're Also,

(12:45):
he's now spent more than four years with the Lakers
and more than eight years in the NBA obviously, so
he's eligible for the no trade clause, which that's the
only it can't be added to existing contracts in extensions,
so if he wants one in LA.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Yeah, this is the only way to get it. Okay.
So there's a lot of reasons.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I mean, after they're they're bringing in JJ like that
was like, Okay, he's going to stay. This is his guy,
and they're just waiting. Yeah you think so. But now
let's have a moment for the champs. Okay, Boston, hard
for me to say, but congrats on your eighteenth and
Briday title, passing the Lakers for most in NBA history.

(13:23):
They had their parade yesterday, and what a moment for
so many guys on this team, Like when it's a
team obviously rivalry. Growing up hardcore Lakers fan, you separate
yourself from the actual teams and you look at the players.
And Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown played one hundred and
seven playoff games together before winning this title, and that
was the most by any duo ever.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
They were waiting.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
For this moment for so long.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Even Al Horford finally got a ring after seventeen seasons
at thirty eight years old. I love him so much.
He wore shirt of Tom Brady hammered at his SuperH.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Together.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, at his parade. That was amazing. I mean it
just Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Harford was drafted the year I graduated high school. That's
how long this man has waited. He's played in one
hundred and eighty six playoff games.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
That the hundred eighty six. It was the charm. Yeah,
first wasn't. The second was the third. It was one
hundred eighty six games. The charge.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I mean, but even hearing like Jaylen Brown, you know,
talking when he got the MVP, shared that he couldn't
do it without Jason Tatum and how people try to
pit them against each other and they just kind of
use that as added motivation to be like, Oh, they
don't think we can do it. They're trying to They're
literally trying to like get us to hate each other,
and that's only going to make us stronger.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
And you can really the concept anyway, because if you
think of the teams that have gone on these runs
and these dynasties that have been created, how often has
it ever been one guy? No, it's always like you mean,
you're one and two. There's there's a lot of big
threes out there too. There are so that have won championship.
So it's just it's it's silly to try to create
division within Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
It sounds like both of them, Yeah, they're going to
keep this dynamic, do it together. Jalen Brown got paid
last year max extension. Now Tatum's gonna get paid. WOJ
was talking during the pregame coverage. At once these NBA
Finals are over, teams are now allowed to start negotiating
contract extensions, negotiating with their own free agents, which means
the Celtics will soon present Jason Tatum with the largest
contract in NBA history of five year, three hundred and

(15:18):
fifteen million dollar extension.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
I mean that's what happens. You're winning Chip, you get
the money.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Congrats. All right, we're gonna take a quick break here,
but when we come back, one of the best and
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Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here
with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from the Taro
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your Saturday afternoon with CARMEI and me. You guys, I mentioned.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
It off the top of the show, this is a
crazy sports week.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
We're getting Finals Game seven's coming up, but tomorrow's rematch
between Kaitlin Clark and Angel Reese.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Who mark your calendars.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's already breaking more records before it even begins. Sunday,
four pm Eastern, one pm Pacific. It's going to be
must watch TV. Ticket prices you guys, for this matchup
are the most expensive for a WNBA game ever ever.
According to Tickpic, the average amount two hundred and fifty
three dollars one hundred and eighty seven percent higher than

(17:08):
the average guy's normal ticket purchase, which is crazy. Currently
cheapest ticket to fifty, most expensive nine thousand. This is
called growing the game. They are the story in the
WNBA right now. These two rookies are what everyone is
talking about, what they want to watch, and they're putting

(17:28):
on a show. Angel Reese is leaning into her villain role,
but like also putting up incredible numbers, playing good basketball
all the basketball court. Both of them are both Caitlin
Clark and Angel Reese are living up to all of
the hype right now in the WNBA.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's it's it sucks kind of though, because they're not
on good teams, and that's what's kind of limiting. I
think a lot of this region exposer like I think
this The Fever and the Sky are fourth and fifth
in the Eastern Conference out of six teams. They're eighth
and ninth in the league overall. So the fact that
you are though seeing these attendance numbers. Indiana has the

(18:08):
highest attendance right in the league this year, with an
average of sixteen thousand per game. Last year, the Las
Vegas Aces, who won the championship, their average attendance was
nine thousand, as the best team in the league. So
these attendance numbers are just breaking all types of records. Chicago,
this guy have only ever played like in their arena.
They only like this season, they only play in their

(18:29):
arena in win Trust, and so there's only a certain capacity.
I think the capacity of win Trust is somewhere between
nine and ten thousand, and they do and they like
they sell out these games.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
They draw an average of about eighty.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Three hundred I believe is what I saw. But the
teams that have played in like bigger arenas, like we
saw the Sparks play in Crypto.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Oh when Caitlin was in town too though, right and.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Bringing Yes, when Kaitlyn comes to town, they these teams
will then move to these bigger arenas and then that
Sparks game has had nineteen thousand people.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Oh no, they packed it, yes, yeah, and like it's.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
I don't I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean, I guess the Sky could have gone to
the United Center and they probably could have gotten like
their attendance numbers up even more. But the point I'm
making is these attendance records are insane considering these two teams,
the Indiana Fever and the Chicago Sky.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Are not good teams right now. Oh and they're still drawing.
But it's must so many people.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's must watch TV, must watch if you can get
to a game. I mean, this is gonna be the
third time that Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese have faced
off against each other in the w Caitlyn has taken
the first two games in this rivalry. And if you
remember the last time, the face was that like flagrant
foul that was heard around the world, Angel Reese was

(19:45):
going for a ball and accidentally or purposefully whatever side drawn.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
As a basketball player.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, Caitlyn in the head, like with the side
of her arm. So this is like all anybody is
going to be watching and wanting to see, Like there
drama and there's a storyline and it's just excitement.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Like I put it.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's in my calendar, like wherever I'm at, Like, make
sure you're at a TV to watch watch this like
entire game. Also, WNBA All Star voting just started. First
returns of the fan voting were published. Clark second, Reese seventh,
both top ten in fan voting. Only two rookies. Yeah,
in the top ten, Like they are one of, if

(20:28):
not the most popular.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, oddestly kind of it's funny that they're only second
and seventh, because so All Star fan voting is just
kind of a popularity contest when it comes with the
fan vote, right, regardless of what sport you're talking about. Yes,
the way it's broken down though, in the WNBA, fan
voting does count for fifty percent of the total score.
Twenty five percent then comes from the player vote, another

(20:51):
twenty five percent comes from.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
The media vote. Okay, so it's not the end all.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
The fan vote's not the end all be all, but
it does a factor the All Star selection more so
than other we've seen other leagues, like the NFL is
famously mysterious for how they're All Stars are actually the
Pro Bowlers are actually chosen. It's like how much is
the fan voting? Yeah, there's like a there's a third
of the vote.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
That's just like.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
A different than any other kind of All Star game
because it's like after the season. It's like fun games,
Like every other sport is kind of in the middle
of the season. It's a halfway point of the season
they're actually playing. But this is I mean, this is
going to be what July twentieth and Phoenix, just before
the Paris Olympics. So it's going to be a fun one,

(21:35):
but also like heartbreaking for Cameron Brink.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
I know the fan voting another if another rookie could
have made it in there Cameron.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, she was eleventh.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
But then also like now now she's not going to
the Olympics, She's not gonna be a part of the
All Star Game, Like, oh man, she had such like
a she has a storybook beginning to her career, and there.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Was and she was the reason that people were tuning in. Yeah,
even if just to see her fire fits.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh no, Angel Reese, oh laying the walk in thick game.
This week, she wore a sweater that was stitched with
the iconic photo of Michael Jordan holding Lario O'Brien.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, it was like embroider, it was. It was beautiful.
I'm like, where did we get this?

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Where can you?

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Can you put this up so we can we can see?

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Yeah, drop the hook.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Us up, hook us up. All right, now, let's check
it with Brian Bentley and see what's trending.

Speaker 9 (22:29):
Yeah, Alex and Carmen, We've got a buffet of soccer
on Fox. It is as you were talking about earlier
from Fox Television to f S Swanna, You've got the
European Championships going on right now in soccer, and Belgium
is leading Romania one nil on Fox Television. Is mentioned
in the seventy third minute earlier Portugal with a three

(22:49):
nil victory against Turkey, and at four different times this
match had to be stopped because fans on those four
different occasions were running onto the pits trying to get
sophies with Chris Gianna. Ronaldo, who by the way, hasn't
scored in six last six euro matches but still draws

(23:09):
so much attention.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Crazy because they want to do it for the GRAM
and if they do, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
This is I mean, we're rapidly approaching like the interest. Yeah,
I was gonna say, things have gotten out of.

Speaker 9 (23:20):
Hand, and the question is how do they police that
when you've got so many thousands of fans guards.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Security, So it's like, you know, it's not their full
time job usually to be.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
And also like, yeah, if I'm a security for someone,
I'm absolutely not putting myself in front of like in
harm's way.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's why Mess has his personal bodyguard. You see him
sprint across the field to a fan this week. Dang
he had wheels.

Speaker 9 (23:42):
I say this ingest a little bit, but like if
they had a little moat, like a castle moat around
the soccer pitch just to stop like.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Barbed wire, Yeah, someone on the sideline like us would
run into it, like that.

Speaker 9 (23:56):
Is true and then too yeah, and then that would
be too well, be too good. But then also at
nine Easter in this evening on FS one, you've got
Jamaica and Mexico Copa America, So a lot of soccer
to sink your teeth into. Also a ton of baseball
to sink your teeth into as well, and Carmen happy
to report your White Sox won a game.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
They sure did, thanks Brian.

Speaker 9 (24:14):
We don't know how they did, but they did, and
that's all that matters. It's a little victory five to
one against the Tigers, and then games going on right now,
a lot of them scoreless, a lot of them in
the first inning. One though, of notable status. You've got
the Cubs seven to one in front of the Mets,
bottom of the six. You can watch that game currently
on FS one. Cardinals seven to four. They are leading

(24:36):
the Giants seventh inning there, and then a bunch of
games are into the first inning without any score. Lastly,
third round of the Travelers Championship on the PGA Tour
and Cameron Young puts down a fifty nine. It's just
the thirteenth time in PGA Tour history a sub sixty
round has been actualized. And even so, at thirteen under

(24:58):
overall for him in the tournament, he's still one shot
off the pace, which is held by a pair of
guys including Tom Kim and Actuay Battia. Both are at
fourteen under, both on their front nine. And then, lastly,
you've got live golf in Nashville second round. Terrell Hatton
is your sole leader at seven under a one shot
edge and he is on the tenth hole, second of

(25:20):
three rounds. With that, let's get it back over to
Karma Vitally and Alex Curry.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Thank you, Brian. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm
Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live
from the Tarak dot Com studios in Los Angeles, and
it is time for our first guest. He is the
founder and CEO of The Sporting Tribune, host of The
Mightier Show, and has been covering the Lakers in the
league for twenty years and has always been a great
friend in this industry. Please welcome rash Marcazi. Hello, yet

(25:48):
has doing great a rash Lots of Laker news this week.
Lakers have reportedly hired JJ Reddick to be the next
head coach. What are your initial thoughts on this hire?

Speaker 7 (26:01):
You know, it was kind of surprising at the beginning
when he was brought up, but I mean he was
really the name, like outside of those four days where
they went after Dan Hurley, I mean, it was really.

Speaker 10 (26:10):
This was their guy, and I think.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
The thought process throughout was like, let him finish his
broadcasting responsibilities, no rush here. So I think that's why
the Dan Hurley thing was so surprising. I don't know
to what details they'll, uh, you know, they'll they'll go
into that during the press conference, but I mean, I
mean it was really like that was their guy, and
again surprising from the beginning because he's never been a

(26:33):
coach before. Yeah, we've actually seen this in the league.
Sometimes it's worked, sometimes it happened, it hasn't, whether you're
talking about Steve Kerr, Steve Dash, Derek Fisher, I mean,
it's happened before. I think Steve her is probably the
best example of it work. No successful, Well, see exactly, Yeah, USh.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
My biggest concern throughout this whole thing when JJ Reddick
emerged as the lakers apparent choice was all right, he's
never coached before. That's one thing, But then that means
that he doesn't have a built in rolodex of talent
coaching wise, staff wise that he can bring in with him.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
So where is he going to get these guys?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
How much emphasis do you think is going to be
placed on bringing in experience in at least the assistant
roles that way they can help him along with some
of the more I don't know, like housekeeping things about
being a head coach, like who was he bringing in
with him.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
It's such a great point, and I do think at
least one, maybe two of his assistants will be former
head coaches.

Speaker 10 (27:34):
Scott Brooks is the name that I've heard brought up.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
But you may also see some you know, players that
have recently become coaches. Jared Dudley. Again he's a coach
with the Mavericks, but he was a teammate with JJ
Bujon Rondo. You know, not too long for his career.
He wants to coach. He may be a part of
this staff. This will be a younger staff, no doubt
about that. I definitely think that that's why it's important

(28:01):
to your point to have at least one, maybe two
former head coaches on the staff. But you know the
biggest thing is that that these coaches, especially JJ Watson,
with the with the respect of the team, and I
did think that's what he has. So you know, again
in this hirings, it doesn't get made without talking to
the players and regardless of what you've heard, like well,

(28:23):
he does a podcast with Lebron. So the fact that
there's being reported that like Lebron wasn't a part of
the process.

Speaker 10 (28:28):
I'm not saying Lebron made the higher but.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
There's no way that you don't talk to Lebron James
right exactly.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Now, Russis deals reportedly four years, but no coach since
Phil Jackson has lasted longer than three. So will the
Lakers be patient with Reddick to get things right?

Speaker 10 (28:44):
I really hope so.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
And it's really one of the red flags with this
job that no coaching Phil Jackson has lasted three years.

Speaker 10 (28:51):
We've seen coaches last one, two and three years.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
But also beyond that, I mean Frank Vocal came in
and did exactly what is with the job. Look at
the Lakers, you have to win less than two calendar.

Speaker 10 (29:03):
Years following his championship. He got fired.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
The Darvin Ham comes in, takes over a team that
didn't make it to the playoffs the year before, thirteen
seed at the trade deadline, coaches them to the Western
Conference Finals less than a calendar year following that, he's fired.
So I really hope that they're patient with JJ, patient
with this team. That's not the business we're in. It's
not the franchise if they run though, So I do

(29:27):
hope that that.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Is the case.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
So what are realistic expectations for Reddick in the Lakers
next season, like what would be considered a successful season.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
So it's a great question because realistic doesn't often go
in line with what Laker fans want of.

Speaker 10 (29:42):
Yeah, Laker fans fully expect to win a championship.

Speaker 7 (29:44):
I think if this team, this team talent wise on paper,
should be a top four seed, should be contending for
the Western Conference finals.

Speaker 10 (29:53):
Maybe be a championship.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
But the fact of the matter is, and we both
know this, and we all know this, you know, having
lived in Los to live, if this team were to
have the season that the Dallas Mavericks did, that should
be a success when you look at the team that
they have. The fact of the matter is if the
Lakers went to the finals and lost to the Celtics, it.

Speaker 10 (30:11):
Would be a disaster.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
So yes, that is why this job is so tough
that he's not taking over a team that should be
a championship team. If he does the job that Jason
Kidd did this year with the Mavericks, that would be
a success and he should win Coach of the Year,
but that first team yeah, it was no, no, no,
But I'm just saying, like, like, what's the successful season,
Like I think if they're a top four seed, they

(30:35):
make it to the playoffs, they're not in the playing tournament.

Speaker 10 (30:38):
Uh, they make it to the conference finals.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
Like in my mind, realistically, that's the success. The problem
is darvinham got fired a year following that, so I
don't know what the team used as a success.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Well, and is that a success for Lebron? That's That's
the other like dynamic here is that Lebron's trying to
win now. He's not getting any younger. He's been pretty
open about the fact that he wants to get another
championship before he's done. So I mean it almost brings
the Lakers into being championship or bust if you have
Lebron leading this team.

Speaker 7 (31:10):
Yeah, and there's no doubt about that. I Mean, when
you go into a season with Lebron James, with the
Davis as long as he's healthy, if Fanthony Davis is healthy,
we've seen like he is still one of the top
ten players in the league. So if you have conceivably
you know, two of the top ten to fifteen players
in the league. I mean, you should be contending. It's
hard to win a title, of course, so but yeah,

(31:30):
there's no doubt about that league. Lebron's coming back for
your twenty one to win a championship. I just don't
know if the complimentary pieces around him are good enough.

Speaker 10 (31:39):
To get that done.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Now.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Lebron's been very vocal about wanting to play with his son,
Bronnie James, and Bronnie has only worked out for a
couple of teams ahead of next week's draft, the Lakers
and the Suns. Would it be a shock if Bronni
doesn't end up in LA. Do you think he's gonna
end up in LA?

Speaker 7 (31:55):
I think he will end up in Los Angeles, just
because they really kind of worked it out way where
he's only worked out for two teams, uh, these Suns
and the Lakers. I don't think the Lakers are going
to use the first round pick on him, Lebron at
least I know, right, but at least publicly publicly, Lebron
is backed off that like I need to be teammates

(32:16):
with my son, which means, like, listen, if he gets
drafted by the Suns and we go head to head
on like in a primetime game.

Speaker 10 (32:23):
That would be great too.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
So but I really do think that they're gonna draft
Lebron's son, Bronni James. I got to see him when
he was with USC. Listen, clearly shouldn't be in the
league right now, but I don't think he's bad. Like
I really feel bad for him that he's not been
able to kind of progress slowly, but again.

Speaker 10 (32:42):
That's his you know, he put his name in the draft.

Speaker 7 (32:45):
But at this point in time, with the way that
they've worked out the tryouts and they've turned down requests
from a variety of teams, I do think he is
with the Again. By the way, I think he'll be
here with the South Bay Lakers playing a night.

Speaker 10 (33:00):
So yeah, we'll see about that.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Yeah, that would work.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Okay, before we let you go, Celtics won the record
eighteenth NBA title this week, passing the Lakers for all time.
Broken Heart, Do you see this team as a one
and done or can they repeat and build a dynasty?

Speaker 7 (33:18):
No, Listen, this is a this is a team that's
gonna be good for a while.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
And I hate I thought you're gonna goanger.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
Listen, because I mean, they have that core group coming back,
and as long as you got that core group coming back,
they are going to contend. And listen, did They've been
knocking up on the door for quite a while being
in the conference finals, the finals. Uh So Again, as
a Lakers fan of the one who grew up in
Los Angeles, I hate the fact that aid that they
wont and be that they're going to be in contention

(33:50):
for the next couple of years here.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Especially in that conference too.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I feel like, exactly, thank you so much for joining
us and giving us that Lakers inside info. It's going
to be an interesting next couple of weeks with Lebron
JJ just seeing how everything plays out here.

Speaker 10 (34:07):
You guys are the best thing. So thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
All right when we come back, you guys, it's sign
for the dues and don'ts in sports this week, you're
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Speaker 5 (34:30):
Hey, welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'm Alex Curry with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live
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Speaker 4 (34:39):
I hope you are too, wherever you're listening. This is
a fun one.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
All right.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's time, you, guys, for the dues and the donts
this week in sports, highlighting the dues.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I love that putting the spotlight on the don't.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
The subject brings me no joy. That's insane.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
It's time for the dues and the domes in sports.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
All right. I'm gonna start with a do I actually have.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
A lot of dues?

Speaker 6 (35:06):
No?

Speaker 5 (35:06):
I have one doubt, but I have all do do
learn from your peers, okay.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Aj Brown suggested that the wide receivers get together and
work out together in the off season, just like the
tight ends do. With tight end you know you posted
on Twitter saying, come on, guys, we can't be too big.
Time to link up and learn. I'm a fan of
everyone and willing to work together with whoever.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Let's make this happen. Wide outs.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, and it's crazy, tho, because they are like wide
receiver arevas.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
So tight ends have done this every year.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
The sauce Gardener, I think last year, said the same
thing about DB's too.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, it's like why tyreek Hill responded, let's go bro
does Bryant responded, would be crazy. I'll drop some jewels.
Shady McCoy a true brotherhood. You gotta respect it, grind
together and make each other better.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Just again, like this known to have a little more
of the diva personality.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
So it's like you're gonna have to kind of put
that aside together and build together.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Like we even just heard like Tom Brady shared that
work out with Fanny, like.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
They got together like in the midst of the rivalry
to learn from each other and get better and grow.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
It's funny because there are other position groups that do this,
so like the offensive lineman do it. I've gone to
online masterminds the last few years. The Aaron Donald led
a pass rush clinic or von Miller is Von Miller
and Aaron Donald would go. Von Miller leads a pass
rush clinic every year for like the defensive ends. It
is like the dema positions.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Though that have a really that haven't done it. They
haven't done it.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I don't know that it ever will happen because that's
a lot of ego to get in one room. Like
tight ends don't have that ego.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
The mean, they better do a reality have cameras. Maybe
that's how you get it.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's probably like have it be like a docu series
and like make a TV show out of it. And
then they'd be like, oh, I'm in let's go.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Speaking of tight ends, yes, do dream big?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yes, Because Travis Kelcey, tight end for the Kansas City
Chiefs of the American National Football League, met the Royal
family backstage at Taylor's concert.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Prince William. He's got his arm wrap Prince William like
they're on the golf course, ye like, and he just
and he just like shot under par or something. And
then you got the kids right.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
There, and I'm like, man, if you would have told
this guy from uh from New Heights, Cleeve or like
right outside Cleveland in Ohio that's where him and Jason
are from, or outside Cincinnati, if you would have told
this kid who also like Jason, Jason had to get

(37:32):
Travis onto the Cincinnati Bearcats football team because Travis was
such a wild child. Yeah, and now he's like brushing
shoulders with Royalty. So you know what, Your your dreams
aren't big enough? Kids, Dream big?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I mean it was on every media outlet from entertainment
to sports like.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Today men being Kylie Kelsey, Like she swiped on Tinder
and she met Jason Kelsey and all of a sudden, she's.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Such a fan.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
I followed her after watching the Kelsey documentary and she
followed me back, and I was like, yes, I think
you're so cool. Immediately like sliding her and Dams, I
think you're so cool. I think you're so fun.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
And this was before all the Taylor Swift stuff flew up.
And then obviously now she's just she just is who
she is, always authentically and.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
I love him.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Okay, Mama Kelsey, all of them, everybody, Okay, I have
another dude, do whatever you need to do to succeed.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Louis a Rise.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
The back to back MLB batting champ just shared a
story that he would sleep with his baseball bat in
bed with him. It started in twenty twenty two. One
night he slept with it. The next day he got
four hits, so he kept doing it, and that was
a year he won his batting title. So it just
became this superstitious thing that he had to sleep with
his bat, and his teammates knew. And now it's become

(38:48):
a like a thing like are you sleeping with your bat?
You're like, Louise a rise and sleep with your bat.
I sleep with a bat next to my bed.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Well yeah, I mean one of my baseball bat for
the same reason that there's no protection.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
But even though my husband's like, what are you doing,
it's not going, I was like, it's something okay.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
It's like you hear about like football players who like
always carry a football, like white backs, or guys that
are supposed to hang on in the ball, like wide receivers,
anybody like always carrying around a football. But a football
is such a more convenient object to hold rather than
a bat. Would that would you imagine be like rolled
over that on that at night? How much that would
hurt Louville slugger?

Speaker 5 (39:24):
All right, I have another.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
I have another, dude, ok, because athletes were at this,
so it's not totally sports related, but.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Again, uh do be petty. Oh ah.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
It was a one night only event in here in
La his pop out, and the way that the life
lesson I took from this is hate more because that
man looked invigorated. And the memes on Twitter all night,
where I don't remember us being that cohesive on Twitter
and just fall in the same court. Like this had

(39:58):
to be the first time since like coked, that we
were all just like tuned into the same thing, all
on the same side. This man galvanized every different group
of people on that stage in La.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
I mean, anybody could achieve it is a full battle.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
No, we love ken Kenza. We got a family connection
to ken So Kenza, family friend.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
I know we love him.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Okay, I got one more before we go, do what
you love pacers.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Miles Turner loves to build Legos, and he recently posted
his latest build about five thousand Lego Mario and Luigi
each like slow he did, like the nerd eye lass.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Such a renaissance right now. I love it so much.
I love it so much. It's cool to be a nerd.
Now I married a nerd, I am a nerd. I
love it so much.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
All right, when we come back, you guys, it's been
quite a dramatic summer in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday Hour two. I'm Alex Curry
here with Carmen Vitali. Thank you for spending your Saturday
afternoon with Carme and me. We are broadcasting live from
tirec dot com studios here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
And what an epic week of sports.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
We talked about this off the top of the show, like,
I mean, we had NBA Champs Crown, Summer of soccer.
There are games on every day, all day on every
Fox channel. If you're on the Fox lot right now,
like when we go in, it is madness. It is madness.
It's so great. We get Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese tomorrow.
We're starting to see all the promos. We also talked

(41:37):
about that in our run, just how they're like breaking
insane attendance records already. We're gonna get a game seven.
I think that's on Monday in the NHL Playoffs. But
I'm also in a really happy place this week because
I don't know if you've been like following like me
or like any of my social media stuff, but like,
I broke my toe like almost two months ago, and

(41:58):
I haven't been able to wear shit use for two months.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
This week, I'm finally able to wear shoes again, and
I can go on walks with my dogs. I can't
tell you how much joy and happiness that brings me.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Yeah, I mean it's because it means like then you
can exercise the bet those fun door here.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah, I was, you guys at work.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I was wearing happy face slippers everywhere.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Everyone's like, oh, what's going on, You're just in your pjs.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I'm like, no, you guys, I'm just trying to be
kind and then also like make myself kind of happy
and smile when.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I look down and see a happy face on my feet.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
But yeah, so vibes are high, you guys. Summer's officially started.
Like it's incredible. I was in degree heat this week,
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(42:54):
We have forty nine ers. Beat reporter at Tracy Sandler
joining us in about thirty minutes. A breakdown this whole
Brandon I You situation. That's getting very dramatic. But it's
been an interesting off season in the NFL. We've had
contract drama but also seen guys get paid. Also, per
league sources, the players involved in the union matter know

(43:16):
that the push for the eighteen games is coming, but
like they just announced now, they're just trying to figure
out what they're going to ask for in return, which
it should one hundred be a second by, Like if
we're gonna ever like dive into.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
That, I think that I don't know that like they
should even need to push for that.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
There's no way that the NFL should allow you to
be a second bye if there's that, if they if
they season extends, that must one game makes a huge
I know people don't think one game makes a huge difference.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
It makes a huge.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Difference early by an early one by, which we talked
about when the schedule release came out, and we even
heard Travis Kelsey say, like, you know, our buys a
little early. That's going to be tough towards the end
of the season when you're all beat up and you
need an extra week up to just like recoup recover.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Also, I think it's gonna come.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I think they're gonna end up asking for the restructure
of the off season program where they don't have this
random six week break, which actually really kind of sucks.
From recoverage standpoint, because then it means you don't have
a summer anymore. Yeah, but it does make a lot
more sense to ramp the guys up and then take
them straight into the season rather than have this six
week break where they can get cold and then have

(44:23):
to come back and reacclimate, or you're.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Just Aaron Rodgers and don't show up, because like where
is he? We still don't know. But let's dive into
what summer looks like for these NFL players, Because Carmen,
you just had a really fun assignment this week in Arizona.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Give us the DEAs.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Tell us about it.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
So anybody that knows me, I always joked that I'm
an offensive lineman at heart.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
This week I got to pretend to actually be one, okay,
which was really fun. I went down to Arizona to
Phoenix to train with three different offensive linemen because a
good friend of mine, a Q Shipley, was in the
league for twelve years. Yeah, multiple different tea games, played
center the whole time. He was a coach for US
in Tampa when I was there, and I got to
know him really well. And by get to know him,

(45:07):
I mean I went into his office and bugged the
ever loving you know what out of him to tell
me everything about offensive line play. We sat there for hours,
like watching tape and him explaining technique to me and
all this other stuff.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
So we've developed a really great friendship.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
He has been training this offseason Tevin Jenkins of the
Chicago Bears, And it's funny because Tevin's going to be
entering his fourth year in the league, but he is
very much a veteran on that line. He has been
with the Bears the longest of any of their starting linemen.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
With the most important draft pick and rookie with the.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Most important investment Williams, the Bears entire organization has made
in a very long time behind him.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
So I got to work out in the weight room
with them.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I got to be on the field as they were
going through drills in one hundred and ten degree heat,
and Alex, it's wild when you are up because these
guys are so big, right, like seven I think is
like six six, three thirty, Like he's a massive dude.
But the amount of athleticism that these guys literally have
in their big toe, which is a thing because there

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was a whole circuits there was a whole circuit structured
around their big toe during their recovery day.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Kids, you not. Aq has a lineman's dream of a gym.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
In his poolhouse and that's where they train, and he
has all these little contraptions that are so offensive lineman specific. Yeah, so,
like there were multiple little machines that were meant just
for big toe. There their big toe, to test the strength,
to practice, the strength, to practice, the flexibility.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Even to speak about that, but the way they're lined up,
like you have.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
To be literally.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Aq had a coach that told him that all power
for a lignement goes through the big toe, And like
it's all of these very intricate, very nuanced things that
you don't consider when you're staring at this wall of
five three hundred plus pound men in front of a quarterback.
But there's so many of these little things that depend

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on the line itself. And I just I've made it
my mission in my career to kind of shed more
light on offensive linemen in general, because I don't think
people really have a great understanding what they do. It's
not just them bashing their heads against the defensive lineman
every play. But Tevin Jenkins was I mean, he's massive,
but he's doing things that.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
I can't do.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
And we're not a professional appa no, but like the
way that he's moving his body and how fast he's moving,
how athletic he is. I'm like, I have no hope
of doing any of this and I am less than
half of your weight, Like it's wild.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
So my question is, because we were kind of talking
about this, if you don't know, Carmen and I carpool
to work, so we have like a pre show before
the show, Sure do, and you were saying, you know,
obviously he knows. I think you also mentioned he's kind
of going to be the veteran right on this O
line this year at what twenty five five years old,
Like still a young guy. What are they doing to

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try to support and we're going to get it behind
the scenes. Look obviously during training camp since Hard Knocks
is going to be with the Bears, but what is
he doing to try to support and help Caleb Williams,
who we've seen reports come out this week like he
has kind of a late release. He's been struggling a
little during these training camps. But again he is all

(48:21):
eyes around him in a new system, new team, New City.
It's going to take time. What is he doing to
help or training right now to do to help to
support Caleb Williams.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
So it's interesting because while the Bears now have a
new offense, they have a new quarterback. Yeah, we talk
about how much new there is on this team. Tevin
was talking to me about how much continuity they have
on the line itself. Okay, because even though he is
the longest tenured Bear on the offensive line, they had
they retained Chris Morgan, their offensive line coach, and he

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now is used to playing next to Braxon Jones, their
left tackle. The center is either going to be there's
a true competition there. It's Coleman, Shelton, Ryan Bay. It's
both very veteran players just haven't been with the Bears.
And then on the other side there's there's Nate Davis
and then you have Darnell Wright, their first round pick
last year. So there's some continuity there and they're really
taking that sentiment and making sure that they can kind

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of anchor. I mean, the offensive line is the anchor
of the offense regardless, but they want to make sure
that they are anchoring that offense and capitalizing on their
continuity by making certain checks, making certain identifications for kyleb
behind him. Okay, so the center specifically center and quarterback
relationship is very intricated.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
It's very thorough. There's a lot of components to it.
Some quarterbacks prefer.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
To make checks and IDs between Like, you know, just
talking about how many downlinemen you see, so you say
four down, I mean it's four down linemen. That that
sets your protection off of. Yeah, you'll talk about you
know where the mic point is, which is the mic linebacker?
You identify that, and that's again a way to set
your protection or what you're setting your protection to. Kevin

(49:58):
was telling me that the lo I now feels personally
responsible for making those checks and IDs. Because Caleb is new,
he is young. You want to be able to take
as much off of his plate so that he can
worry about the scheme, he can worry about the routes,
he can worry about really diagnosing what he's seeing.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
By having these guys in front of him telling him that.
Now it's still going to be up to Caleb Williams
to know what that all.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Means, but he now has five guys, not just the center,
five guys telling him all right, this is what I'm seeing.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
This is what I'm seeing, this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
They all have their own assignments now, and I thought
that that was an incredible gesture of teamwork. Tevin told
me that, you know, Caleb and has been inviting all
of the offensive line out to certain things. Tevin hasn't
been able to go to a lot of these things.
He just had a baby, his wife just did, but
he hasn't been able to really take advantage of it.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
But Caleb is meshing.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Really really well with his line and understands the importance
of the guys that are in front of him.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
It was such a wonderful experience.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
It really I love doing these kind of things because
it just you just really get an appreciation for all
the things, even outside of the field, that these guys
are doing. I mean, Kevin works with a mental health coach, uh,
really honing his leadership skills, making sure he knows how
to communicate.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
He does pilates at six six three.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
You got to get that flexibility, build it up the
little muscles, and there's gonna be You're gonna be writing
a couple of stories on this too.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
A couple of features dropping on Fox sports dot Com
detailing all of this, and if you're if you're a
little bit more interested in what summer looks like, especially
for mine men, and how how intricate their training really gets,
I'm really I'm really excited about this piece.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Yeah, so stay tuned for that.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
But speaking of the off season, off season workouts OTAs
mini camps, apparently the Jets are just willing to roll
with Aaron Rodgers and the drama. He obviously does what
he wants during the summer. Also crazy that we still
don't know.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
Where he is, if he's even still there, if.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
He's even still there back now here, who knows.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
But like we know that some players and Robert Sala
said they didn't think it was a huge deal that
he missed mandatory mini camp, But you have to imagine
there are a handful of guys in that.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Locker room that probably care that the leader of your
team was not there.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
He was not leading by example, and you guys, this
is a big deal, especially in New York. And Julian
Edelman was on The Herd yesterday. He had a really
interesting take about this.

Speaker 11 (52:26):
Take a listen, you can't win games in the offseason,
but you can lose them if they go one in three.
This is going to be such a big distraction for
that locker room if they start four, No, no one's
going to.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Care, that's right, Yeah, yeah, And New York media will
be hounding Jet schedule. I mean remember, they are favored
in fourteen of their seventeen games, six primetime games. Aaron
Rodgers has only played four snaps yes with this team
before snapping his achilles last season, and they start this
season at forty nine ers that's Monday Night Football Week one.

(52:57):
I think the forty nine ers are going to take
that one because they are favored in every single one
of their games at Titans versus Patriots, that's a Thursday
Night Football Week.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Three, and then verse Broncos.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
If he loses to the Titans or the Patriots or
any Broncos or the Broncos, New York media, well one
PC use this situation against him, and she was head off.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
It's so it's interesting because and I'm not you know this,
I'm not in a business at defending Aaron Rodgers. He
was at OTA's all all like off season, all spring,
he was at every OTA, which is not typical for
Aaron Rodgers, especially his last few years with the Packers.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
This is a new team.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
So he was there last year, he wasn't there, but like,
it just it seemed so like, what was two more days, dude?
What was two more days to just stay and maybe
camp to avoid all of this. And what really got
to me though, is now you're putting your coach in
a position to have to defend you and undermining your coach. Yeah,

(53:55):
because you didn't communicate that what you were like, what
you were doing when you were doing.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
It, all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
So now Robert Sala has to get up there and
face the New York media and say, yeah, he's not here, Yeah,
and then say it's not a big deal. It's not
a big deal from a football standpoint, it's not Aaron
Rodgers played a lot of football.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Yeah, he knows a new team. Again, you played four
snaps with this team last year.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Yeah, And I mean there is absolutely something to be
said about getting that chemistry down or whatever.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
But they were able to do that in OTA's which
he was there for, which again is more than that.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
But what is insane to me is that, Listen, you
can't if you're the Jets, you have to go along
with this.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Like you were betting that your franchise on Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
You were betting that the distractions and all of the
things that Aaron Rodgers is off the field were going
to be worth what he was going to give you
on the field. But that hasn't happened yet. As you mentioned,
he's only played four snaps for you. Meanwhile, you are
paying You've already guaranteed him seventy five million dollars, by
the way, because that was guaranteed at signing when Aaron
Rodgers signed that contract. Yeah, not to mention, you gave

(54:55):
up a slew of picks that the Packers have now
turned into Lucas van Ness one of their stars defense
event or like a rotating defensive end Luke Musgrave who
had that wonderful touchdown catch against the Cowboys. I believe
in the playoffs, your kicker Andres Carlson, and then even
this year, your second round pick Eddrian Cooper who's expected
to be a great addition to that, Preston Smith, Rashaan Gary,

(55:15):
lucasfan Nest rotation, offensive lineman, Jacob Mounk, safety's Evan Williams.
These are all the things that the Packers have now
gotten onto a stable yet young team, and Rogers is
sitting here where the expectations in New York for what
you gave up and for what you're paying him now

(55:36):
come down to literally this year. That's why I keep
saying it is super Bowl because what you gave up
for Rogers, all of the stuff you have to put
up with with Rogers, it is the expectation is now
super Bowl for.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
The New York Jets.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
You lost the buffer year, which was last year of
him getting acclimated to this offense, which he's known forever,
by the way, because it's his dude, Nathan no Hackett
at offensive coordinator. You have to now go and at
least get to the super Bowl to make this worth it.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah, I don't see that happening. But you know who
else kind of has that super Bowl or bus mentality
this year? The forty nine Ers. They had a super
team last year and then lost to Mahome, solidifying the
Chiefs dynasty in the Super Bowl, and now they are favored.
The forty nine Ers, You guys, are favored in every
game this season, so they're gonna have a chip on
their shoulder. But apparently so does one of their offensive weapons,

(56:26):
Brandon Ayuk, who was their leading.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Receiver last season.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yeah, yes, but I don't. Did you see his TikTok
drama that he did this week? He recorded had someone
record him facetiming Jaden Daniels saying, they said they don't
want me back.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
I swear so many questions about this TikTok.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Obviously everyone's assuming it's the forty nine ers, But then
the forty nine ers have come back and just say
we do want them, but they're just not.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
They don't want to say they don't want him at
a Y page for the numbers.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Yeah, they don't want to.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
They they don't want them at a right now Ike's price.
And listen, I mean I see it from both sides,
because I just witnessed Justin Jefferson become the highest paid
non quarterback in the league. He keeps seeing receiver after
receiver get that three in front of their number.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
The forty nine ers don't have the flexibility, the cap
flexibility to make a deal like that happen.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
And they can also hang on to Brandon.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Nayuk next year by tagging him in twenty twenty five
so like there isn't necessarily a an urgency.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
To get a deal done right away.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
But I will say there's a major copiat to them
tagging him in twenty twenty five, because when you tag
a player, their entire salary because it's a one year deal,
will hit the cap, and the tag for a wide
receiver by next year, by twenty twenty five, will be
about twenty five million, or is thought to be about
twenty five million.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
They only have.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
They are already projected to be twenty six million over
the cap in twenty twenty five. So now you don't
really have any sort of flexibility with him, and you you're, you're,
you should be incentivized to get a long term Ye'll
done with Brandon ay Yuke, I think, But brand and
Ayuk is sitting here like, well, Justin Jefferson got paid

(58:15):
thirty five million dollars, I want thirty five million dollars. Yeah,
I'm a number one wide receiver and I would agree
with him too. I don't think that offense works as
well without Brandon and Ayk.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
I think they have so many offensive weapons, but he
is a major.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
He provides the aspect to their offense that stretches the field. Yeah,
Deebo does a lot of underneath stuff. Christian McCaffrey does
a lot of the underneath stuff. You need a threat
down the field to open all of that stuff up underneath.
Brandon Ayuk is the one that does that. He absolutely
is crucial to what Kyle Sanahan does on offense, and

(58:47):
he wants to be paid like it. At the same time,
I don't know, is he really up there with STEVIEE.
Lamb and Justin Jefferson and I mean AJ Brown.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Is Trevor Lawrence up there like? Well, that's conversation is
apples and orange.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
It's all where you land and what the market is
once your contract comes.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Up with a lot of things, guys. That's the thing is.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
I do think there's a bubble coming for the wide
receiver market. I don't think that very many guys are.
I think Jamar Chase is probably the next and only
one that's going to top that topple that like thirty
four to thirty five million dollar price tag. I don't
see like there there are too many receivers in the
draft and you can get them too much later, like
you know, in multiple rounds. Yeah, for teams to be

(59:29):
spending thirty thirty five million on a receiver for the
foreseeable future. I think that there's a bubble coming. And yeah,
I don't see anybody topping justin Jefferson's deeal.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
We got Tracy Sandler, forty Niners beat reporter, joining us
in about ten minutes to kind of get the inside
scoop there.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
But we're going to take a quick break here.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
When we come back, the.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Goat is finally sharing his secrets. You guys, you're listening
to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday.
I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting
live from the Tyrek dot Com studios in Los Angeles.
Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.

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Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
We're gonna put it all out there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
I promise you. We got you covered. I'm tominally online,
as alex Well knows, yes she is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I'm literally looking over mid conversation and Carmen is scrolling
the internet on our computer.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
I'm like, how do you concentrate? I can't do those
like two things at once.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
About sick place up here, sick place.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
You know who else has a crazy mind? The goat,
you're a worker. Tom Brady was on the Herd this week,
you guys, and he really gave us an inside look
not only to how his like brain works, but the
Patriots dynasty, why they were so good, how they prepared.
There were so many like gold little sound bites in

(01:01:10):
case you missed it, but there was one that really
stood out that he mentioned in Saturday Night.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
We were so prepared and so focused. We were the
opposite of tight.

Speaker 12 (01:01:19):
Really, we were always relaxed because we had the answers
to the test. I knew that I went through the
call sheet, And let's say we had one hundred and
fifty calls on the call sheet. There was a meeting
at a squad meeting eight o'clock. I would meet with
the quarterbacks starting at six thirty in the offense corner.
We'd go through every single play on the call sheet,
and we'd do exactly what we did. Okay, this is
a play, this is the run. What's the one thing

(01:01:39):
that could mess this run up?

Speaker 13 (01:01:41):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:01:41):
A safety blitz off the right side. Okay, great, what
do you want to do if that happens? So I'd
walk to the line of scrimmage that call was, that
call was made, I'd break the hood. I'd look at
the line scrimmage. I'd say, okay, the only problem I
have on this play is if the safety is blitzing
off the right side, and then I would just look
for it. Oh, and he only did it, let's say
five percent of the time. So most coaches would just say,
I just run the play whatever if they get lucky
and call at the same time one for them. And

(01:02:02):
that's not how I played, because that one play could
mean everything, right, So I would say no, no, no, no.
If it's a five percent chance it could happen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
He was so prepared for every possible scenario. He was
a chess master at his position. That's why he is
the goat seven rings more than any single franchise. He
is the best to ever do that. And now we're
going to get to watch him and learn from him
when he's in the booth calling these games.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
But it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
He even said it in his in his speech when
they were retiring as jersey for the Patriots last week
or a couple of weeks ago, where he was like,
you don't have to be the best at something. You
just have to do what everyone else is not doing
and put in the time and prepare and care and
you just as we saw, he's not the most He
wasn't the most athletic quarterback on the field, the strongest, Yeah,

(01:02:54):
didn't have the strongest arm, But he is the greatest
of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
I So it's interesting because the part about like him
adjusting to certain things and preparing this way isn't really
particularly revelatory. Like everybody will tell you that the NFL
is a chess match. Yes, it is absolutely like reading
and reacting and trying to be as proactive as possible,
saying three steps ahead of your opponent. But what this
is what people mean when they say that this is

(01:03:21):
the NFL is all mental. Obviously it's not actually mental.
There's a huge physical component to the NFL. But this
is what separates the good from the greats is the
way that you can process things, the way that you
can id things, the way that you prepare. When I
was in Tampa, I remember hearing stories just from our
offensive coordinator and our head coach BA Bruce arians at
the time Byron left, which the way that Tom right

(01:03:44):
up until the game, and he talked about it just there.
Ye would be going over different plays, changing different plays, saying, ah,
you know what, after thinking about this a little bit,
I think I want to change this to this or this.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
I want to make sure that this audible is in there.
I want to make sure that this that and the other.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
And then once he's on the field, he will end
up checking into different things and kind of like calling
his own stuff. But what really struck me from that
conversation that he had with Colin Cowherd was the time
it takes to have the trust to be able to
do that kind of stuff. Not every quarterback is free
to make those decisions at the line. Yeah, because they

(01:04:18):
don't have the trust of their team yet. Because that
takes a long time, that takes a track record. The
only reason that Brady was able to come in and
do that instantaneously in Tampa is because he had nearly
twenty years of experience up until that point that told
you he knows what he's doing. So the trust was
there immediately. That's not reality for most players, for most quarterbacks.

(01:04:39):
And this is why expecting players to come in, especially quarterbacks,
to come in and it instantly light the league on fire, yeah,
is so it's far fetched, is what it is. And
you need to be able to build that trust and
that just takes time. And I think unless you're Tom Brady,
unless you're Tom Brady who already had but like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
He had it, he had a track record for it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
I was gonna say six strings beginning in New England.
He did, and he was a six round pick. He
was the backup to Drew Bledsoe. He didn't have that trust.
It took years for that, Yeah, because those don't forget
those first championships were that Patriots defense. And Tom will
be the one to tell you that too. He was
not the Tom Brady that he became those last three
championships in New England. So that was what I took

(01:05:18):
away from it. Again, this is something that you want
your quarterback to be able to do, but you need
to allow them time and you need to prepare them
and give them the tools to be able to do this.
And there's just not that many teams that really are
in that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
No, but I'm excited to listen and watch Brady now
call these games and kind of give his perspective of
what he would be thinking in that situation.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
It's gonna be so cool. Okay, Now let's check out
with Brian fan Lancy. What's trending.

Speaker 9 (01:05:43):
Yes, Alex and Carmen, we were talking about American football
a goat. How about football internationally and potential goat? And
somebody like Christiana Ronaldo who with Portugal. They were in
the European Championship today in soccer and they won three
nothing against Turkey. Also Belgium with a two nil victory
over Romania. Then coming up at nine Eastern time, we're

(01:06:04):
gonna have Mexico and Jamaica squaring off with Copa America.
Major League Baseball, plenty of games are up and running
as we speak, including the Mariners with a seven to
nothing lead against the Miami Marlins in Miami, top of
the six there Also, the Phillies have three home runs
and they are torching the Diamondbacks eight to one bottom

(01:06:25):
of the fifth. A nine to two lead for the
Twins over the Athletics middle of the fifth there, so
they're going to the bottom of the fifth with Minnesota
trying to say goodbye and cut ties to a three
game losing streak. The Astros four and answered against the
Orioles and the Stros in front at home four to one,
top of the sixth, Red's haying three on the Red
Sox and it's three to one Sincy bottom of the fifth,

(01:06:49):
Blue Jays two Guardians five, top of the sixth there
where the Guardians are your leaders in the al Central. Meanwhile,
in golf, a fifty nine was achieved today by Cameron Young.
It's third round of the Travelers Championship on the PGA Tour,
and that fifty nine was just the thirteenth time with
PGA Tour history that somebody has shot a sub sixty round.

(01:07:12):
And not only that, but he moves himself way up
the leaderboard and is just one off the pace now
with Akshay Batilla and Tom Kim. Both are at fourteen under.
Both are still on the golf course. They are in
a share for the advantage or the lead. That excused
me and one shot behind. You've got Young, you got
Xander Schoffle, Colin Morikawa, Scottie Scheffer, you've heard of those

(01:07:33):
names before. And then in live you've got the event
going on in Nashville. And Terrel Hatton through what is
sixteen holes now he has a two shot lead. He
is at eleven under, five under today, Carlos Ortiz is
part of a two way tie four second, two shots
off the pace, but Terrell Hatton is at eleven under.
With that, let's get it back over to Alex Curry

(01:07:55):
in Karma Vitally.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Thank you, Brian, you're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm
Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live
from the Tyro dot Com Studios in Los Angeles, and
it is time for our next guest. She is the
founder and CEO of Fangirl Sports Network. She's a forty
nine ers beat writer and I was just on her
show this week talking all Things Dodgers. Please welcome Tracy Sandler.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
Hello, Hi, so are you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
We're doing great grace.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Let's start with some forty nine Ers drama, please, because
Brandon Ayuk posted a video on TikTok this week facetiming
Jaden Daniels saying that they don't want me back, hinting
that the forty nine Ers won't be giving him an extension.
What are you hearing about Ayuk's future in San Francisco?

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
Well, I really don't believe that it is that they
don't want him back. I think the issue is the
number at which he wants to come back and the
number at which they want to bring him back, because
there's really no scenario where they don't want him back.
He's brought Pretty's favorite target. They see him as a
true wide receiver one he's done tremendousness offense. But they're

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having an issue at the number. And that's really where
we're at right now. And the big question, of course remains,
will they get this done as we've seen them do
with Deebo Samuel, with Nick Botha, with other players in
the past. Or is Brendan and I you going to
be playing on the fifth year option and becoming a
free agent next season. We'll have to see. But you know,

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a couple of months ago, a few months ago, I
think when I was always you Carmon, I was so
confident they would.

Speaker 7 (01:09:25):
Get this done.

Speaker 6 (01:09:26):
I now I'm not as definitive as I once was.
And you know, I guess we'll see what happened. It's
just that they're that far apart. And if he's on
TikTok saying to Jane Daniels, they don't want me back,
that's I have no doubt that's what Brandon heard, like
that's how he interpreted it. I just don't believe that
they don't want him back. The issue is what number?

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Is there a number that they can agree on to
get him back? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
And I mean the forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
I was looking at their their available capspay is going
into twenty twenty five, and they're already projected to be
twenty six million under the cap or over the cap.
I should say, excuse me up until then, so there's
not a whole lot of flexibility that they have. Now
you can play with the numbers and do a little
bit of creative accounting. As our friend Cynthia Freeland likes
to say when you do get an extension done, but

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I think there's a lot of issues with guarantees. Also,
Brandan and I you is seeing that you know these
other guys. Justin Jefferson is becoming the highest paid non
quarterback in the league with thirty five million dollars, and
he knows that if he is a if he hits
the market, if he hits free agency after his fifth year,
then well he might be able to go get that

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money and that number somewhere else.

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
Do we think, I mean he might, but it will
depend on how this year goes. So this is the
part that I think gets difficult for the player and
for the team. And I will say I never say
a player shouldn't do everything he can to get everything
he can.

Speaker 10 (01:10:53):
It's a business.

Speaker 6 (01:10:54):
The team will always take care of itself and he
should take care of himself. But it is a gamble
because he goes into this season with George Kittle and
Christian McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel and Juan Jennings just sign extension.
Ricky Pearsall, he goes in the season and doesn't have
the kind of season he had last year, then what
is his market value. It's tough, it's a tough gamble,

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and yes, next year they're going to have to make
some really tough decisions. This is probably the last year
where they basically have the band all together. But you know,
I've seen a lot on Twitter the joke that if
they don't sign into with extension, it's like the Hunger
Games between him and Deebo Sdanuel for who is going
to stay long term. And I think this actually is
kind of true. So, you know, and the one thing

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I'll point to, and I don't know that this is
going to make have any effect in what Brandon decides
to do, but both Tibo Samuel and Nick Botha have
said that holding out affected their season, and I think
Auk is going to hold out at least for a
little while. I do not envision him being at there
at the first day of training camp, but you know,
you want to put yourself in the best position, and

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if he wants to put himself in the best position,
and he's not going to accept their number, and he's
going to play it out and see what happens. He
needs to he needs to be there, and he needs
to be in training camp, and he it's a tough decision.
I you know, I'm glad to write about it, and
I myself will not be on the field. I will
not be signing an extension note of the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
But yeah, i'd sign that extension for a few mill.

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
Offer it to me, I will be happy to take it.
But I don't know that my play has really that
they want to get. There were the contract that they
want to give me. But it's going to be kind
of interesting to see how this plays out. But I
really I understand that that's separate and I you took
it and that's what he heard, But I don't think
that's the issue. It's just it's a numbers game at
this point, and will they be able to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
So another player that's really proven himself is Brock Perdy,
bringing the forty nine ers to NCY championship in Super
Bowl in his first two seasons. Do you see him
as the future in San Francisco?

Speaker 6 (01:12:57):
Absolutely?

Speaker 10 (01:13:00):
Wow?

Speaker 7 (01:13:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:13:01):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:13:02):
So I've been covering the team. This will be my
ninth season, and in the in the Lynz Shanahan era,
we've had Brian Hoyer, We've had CJ. Bethard, We've had
Nick Mullins, We've had Jimmy Garoppolo and we've had Rock Purty,
and of all those people, Rock pretty aside from the
fact that he's proven himself, Cyle Shanahan trust him in

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a way that I never saw him trust an other quarterback.
And it's changed the offense. It's opened up the offense.
And that's part of these contract talks too, because now
what do they need? Who do they need Because it's
Rock Purty, they can run a different kind of offense
and they were running with Jimmy Garoppolo. But yes, absolutely
he is you know, barring an injury, God forbid, he
is the future in San Francisco. He's their franchise quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
It's going to be so interesting then because then what
tier contract wise does that hurt Rock Party in?

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
Is he commanding?

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Is going to be like past that fifty million dollar Like,
if you're telling me he's the future in San Francisco,
the going rate for franchise quarterbacks these days is over
fifty million dollars at this point, is Rock Party going
to get that? Do you signed into more of a
mid tier deal because of the weapons he has around
him and you don't necessarily need crazy quarterback play, but
like that's also not brock Party's fault.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
I don't know. I go back and forth on this
all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
Tracy, Well, we talked to Jed York at the owner's
meetings and he said he will command with the market bears.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Oh that tells me, tells me fifty million dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:14:27):
That he really does and that he is your franchise guy. Yeah.
I think he is a guy, and they think he's
a guy. I don't think. You know, a lot of
quarterbacks have good weapons around them. Certainly you have like
Tom Brady who was able to do a lot with
maybe not the weapons that brock Party has. But at
Patrick Mahomes who was able to win a Super Bowl
without the weapons that brock Purty has. But if he's

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your future and he hasn't even played two full seasons,
he's really only played it like a season and a
quarter so he's only going to get better and better.
And this offseason he gets to concentrate just on and
not on rehab. So he's gonna get better and better
and he's going to have another season. Yeah, another season
like that. That's what he's going to command, and that

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is what he should command. He's proven that he's there.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
Guys, all right, man, million dollars there we go send it. Tracy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Thank you so much for joining us and for all
that inside of.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
Bo Absolutely, guys, have a great rest of to.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Day, you too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
All Right, We're gonna take one more break, but when
we come back, we got a historic game and moment
this week. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back
to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally.
We are broadcasting live from the Tyrek dot Com studios
in Los.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
Angeles bybire dot Com Studio.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Isn't We've had a different vibe every every time we
come back IOSA.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
I'm crushing it today. We love it rushing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
But Thursday night I mentioned there was a lot of
big sports moments this week throughout the show. But Thursday night,
Major League Baseball and Fox created a really incredible event
at rick Woodfield. Now, this is the oldest ballpark in America,
and this was the first Major League baseball game played
at Rickwood.

Speaker 13 (01:16:04):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Rickwood was a staple in the Negro leagues, and this
game was a tribute to all those players and teams
in the Negro League. But it was also so important
to hear from legends like Reggie Jackson who lived this
history and gave America a really raw and honest history.

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Lesson Thursday night, when a Rod asked him how emotional
it was for Reggie Jackson to be back at Rickwood.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
Coming back here is not easy.

Speaker 13 (01:16:38):
The racism that I've played here when I played here,
the difficulty of going through different places where we traveled.
Fortunately I had a manager and I had players on
the team that helped me get through it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
But I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

Speaker 13 (01:16:57):
People said to me today I spoke and they said,
you think if you're a better person, you think you
won when you played here and conquered. I said, you know,
I would never wanted to do it. You want to
do it again. I walked into restaurants and they would
coin at me and said, can't eat here. I would
go to a hotel and I said, can't stay here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
I mean, it is crazy to see him how emotional
he got sharing these stories. It put into perspective the
horrific racism that these players went through, and also to
put into perspective that wasn't that long ago. Reggie Jackson
said to me eight years old, years old even watching
Big Poppy shared the impact just hearing Reggie's story that

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it had on him, knowing that if it wasn't for
players like Reggie and going through that and breaking down
those barriers and paving the way, he might not have
had the opportunity to be playing and.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
Doing what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
He wouldn't have And that's that's such an important It
was such an important moment for everybody, even if you're
not even a sports fan, because it just reminds us
that this is not too far in our past. This
is not too far in our history. There are people
that are still very I mean clearly, Reggie Jackson is
very with it. He's very articulate. He's on camera talking

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about this, Yeah, because he's only seventy eight, like we
just said, yeah, and this is something that he can
very clearly recount. So this is something that I think
everybody should just take a second to digest and realize
that we also need to recognize it so that it
doesn't happen again.

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
I mean, there are trickle down effects from all of this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Yeah, I will say I love how much major League
Baseball is, how much they're doing to finally recognize the
Negro League. Between the Rickwood game and then this year,
the Negro League stats have officially made it into Major
League Baseball all time spats. But there were also so
many There were so many beautiful moments in this broadcast,
like the tribute to Willie Mays, having Barry Bonds talk

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about the relationship he had because Willie Mays was his godfather,
and he shared this story of when he was breaking
his all time home run record and what it meant
to him and for the game, he said he was
one home run away from tying Willie Mays, and he
wasn't sure if it was kind of a mental block
because it was his godfather and someone he looked up to,

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or if he was just in a slump that's why
he wasn't getting that next home run. But he said
Willy finally came up to him before a game and
was like, dude, you better, you better tie me soon
because I'm flying all over to watch every single game.
And then that game, yeah, and then that game is
when he hit the tying home run that night, and
Willy told him, you keep going and you break that

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all time record and you can just see just the
stories and the emotion for all of these players and
what Willy meant to all of them.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
But I mean, Barry Bonds did.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
He's the all time home run leader, was seven hundred
and sixty two home runs, and it's still crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
To me that he's not in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
I come at me, bro, like whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
I commented on the Barry Bonds video and IMLB on
Fox saying put him in the hall.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
Boy, did I start a debate? I mean, yeah, it's
obviously a hot button issue, but I also I agree
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
I mean, he is the best of the best. He's
still like on the like when you look at the
all time home run leader, it's Barry Bonds, seven hundred
and sixty two. You do realize that every player during
that time was on steroids, even the pitchers, every matter,
like you still had to hit the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
There are plenty of players in the Hall of Pamela at.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
The times the playing field was leveled because everybody, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Yes, but it was also did you see they did
this like old school broadcast vibe, the black and white
with the split screen, the cameras were on like the
roof because Obviously there weren't camera wells when this field
was built. It was just it was bravo to Major
League Baseball and Fox Sports for putting on such a
cool event.

Speaker 5 (01:20:43):
It was a great event. It was a great event,
and it was important for.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
Everybody all around. I'll see that was unexpected reasons too.
It wasn't just the celebration, but that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Thank you guys for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.
Have a fun and safe for us.

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
You're week