The Bernie Fratto Show Discusses the Lakers' JJ Redick Dilemma, Rickwood Field Tribute Game, Stanley Cup Game 7, and More!

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And just like that, at eleven oh one pm Pacific
time in Las Vegas, it's one hundred and one degrees yep.
I don't want to say it was hot this week
in Las Vegas, but I saw a dog chasing a cat.
They were both walking here all week, Folks. At least
on Friday Saturday Night, Huge Show. Tonight, we'll have erin

(00:51):
Tortus at about fifteen minutes. He and JJ Reddick have
a past, maybe even got a future. You're gonna want
to hear about this. It speaks to temperament. I told you.
Chuck Day once told me that, you know, managing coaching
an NBA team is all about managing an adult day
case center. Hold that thought is Briannie James going to
get drafted. We got the draft this week. Oh my goodness,

(01:12):
all kinds of NFL updates, brand newfool what my name?
Can the Edmonton Oilers do it? I'll give you some
history later in the show. And oh, by the way,
in about fourteen hours, Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese tee
it up again. I would say it's the rubber match,
but Clark's beaten her twice. But regardless, you want to

(01:32):
go to the game two hundred and seventy one dollars ticket. Yep,
you heard me right. But we begin with the biggest
story of the week, and this is the one you
can be talking about all the way through next June.
I guarantee it. The Lakers have their man, JJ Reddick.
He's their new head coach. And you know the first
thing that struck me when that anti climactic event was
finally announced the other day. In Lebron's I westriest career,

(01:57):
he's had eight coaches and what dude, David black, Tyloo
and Darvin Ham all have in common. Well, yes, they
all coach Lebron, but all of them had zero NBA
head coaching experience when they were hired, and all of
them lasted only two years. That's it. Now JJ Reddick

(02:19):
has a four year deal. I'm not casting dispersions all
night making predictions, but you tell me what's going to
be different, you see, because there's no doubt in my
mind that JJ Reddick has a high basketball IQ. We
all know that. There's no doubt in my mind he'll
bring work ethic and he had a fourteen year, seventeen
year NBA career, so he knows his way around the hardwood.

(02:44):
That's not the issue. The question will be can he
produce results while learning on the job in the white
hot intensity of a thousand suns known as the lake
or circus coming to a town near you? Soon see,
it's not just about how smart he is and whether
or not he's willing to work hard, which I believe

(03:05):
both those things are true. But when the rubber hits
the road and life unfolds and living color and you
are all of a sudden in an NBA game against
the likes of Denver or Dallas or Oklahoma City or Minnesota,
what do we know about JJ Reddick and his game
management skills? What do we know about his substitution patterns.

(03:27):
Can he maximize players coming out of a timeout? How
about situational points during the game? And he hasn't assembled
his staff yet. Now I know it's my I was
told by a good source that a couple of weeks ago,
he asked Sam Cassell. Sam Cassell said not no, hell no,
you know what. I don't blame Sam Cassell. And this
sort of raises a question. Let's talk about this. We

(03:52):
know the Lakers. I think everything they do is based
on vanity at this point. Otherwise, how seriously you have
considered Sam Cassell's a head coach. Hell He's only been
an assistant fifteen years. He's only been a part of
four NBA championships, three as a player, one as an
assistant coach. He's been an NBA All Star, he's been

(04:13):
an All NBA player. He's been there, done that, been
around the block. Am I missing something here? How many
years was JJ Redick an assistant coach? Same as me? Zero?
How many NBA championships is Reddick been a part of
as a player or a coach? Same as me? Zero? Hell,
I was an intern at the Forum and the Lakers
won it in nineteen eighty. I got maybe I'm more

(04:34):
qualified than him, but he did start a podcast and
he's now the head coach of the Lakers. This is
food for thought. This is what I do in the
Bernie Frattle Show, I tried to dive into angles. I
just hate that I the third person there. Excuse me
forgive me for first person whatever you call it. I
hate when people do that. So let's not stray too
far off on point. Soon the rubbers going to hit

(04:56):
the road, which I just said a minute ago. That's
the department of redundancy department. What we have is a
situation here where I believe this will be a very
short honeymoon period. The Lakers truly believe they are a
championship or bus team every year. You don't have to
believe it, but they do. But there are two words
forty or numbers. Two numbers I think that will define

(05:18):
this season. Forty and fifty. Lebron turns forty on December thirtieth.
By the way, he can become a free agent between
now and then, which he might probably get a three
year deal, you know, suck all the air of the
room with another fifty million dollars deal. All right, For
the second straight season, the Lakers required a playing tournament
to qualify for the playoffs. So, by the way, Lebron

(05:39):
wanted a guy who came up with the idea of
the playing tournament to be fired. But I gotta tell you,
the Lakers have lived in the playing tournament, so maybe
that's not such a smart thing. By the way, over
the past three seasons spanning coaches Frank Vogel, who won
a championship sort of in darvin Ham, the Lakers are
one hundred and twenty three, one hundred and twenty three.
Here's the bottom line. They're a good bada team. They're

(06:01):
sure as hell not a great team, and they're assure
as hell not championship caliber. And now be careful what
you wish for because JJ Raddick is about to step
into the fire. The reality is, when your team is
built on a forty year old in his foundation, there
are limitations, sorry, there are There are limitations as to

(06:22):
the load Lebron can carry, particularly on defense. And what
those what do those limitations do? They lower the team's potential,
They lower the team's ceiling. Now I get it. The
Lakers still have Anthony Davis played seventy six games this
past year, kudos. He's only thirty one years old, enjoyed
the healthiest season of his career. Can you do that

(06:42):
again next year? Even if he does, you got an anchor.
He's called Lebron James. You don't like hearing that. Your problem,
not mine. Fifty million bucks are going to give this guy,
probably for the next three years, for a forty year
old guy who will do it night in and night out.
But it's all about Lebron. Let's say the Lakers win
a championship next year, He'll take all the credit. If
they don't, he'll blame somebody else, probably JJ Reddick. Just

(07:04):
say it. The Lakers have a little bit of wiggle
room to approve with a rosh, a little bit. They
got some mid tier contracts, including Austin Reeves. Then he
got three first round draft picks who might get their
foot in the door for the next available star. But
who is that player? Do you want to give up
that draft capital and try to sell again to get
a Trey Young or a Zach Levine or a Brandon Ingram.

(07:25):
Don't tell me you're gonna go after Jimmy Butler out Hill.
He might even be available. But it's thirty five years old.
So what are you doing? What if Cleveland woke up
one day and says, hey, Lakers, we'll give you Donovan
Mitchell for a bag of balls. No, they wouldn't do that.
In order to get a guy of Donovan Mitchell's caliber,
that would cost way more than the Lakers could offer.

(07:46):
And let's say they had Donovan Mitchell alongside of Lebron
and an ad And I'm just talking to Mint, who
hire play a lot, would be sports of the toy department.
We're in the shopping mall life. This is the toy department.
We just have a little fun. You tell me that
evens the playing field against against Luca and Kyrie and
the Dallas Mavericks. Nope, Anthony Edwards, Shay Gilgis Alexander Nope.

(08:09):
Those four teams I mentioned, Dallas, Denver, Minnesota, OKC. The
Lakers are not better than any of those teams. The Lakers,
if they go for that third star, that will severely
restrict their ability to build out a roster. This last
year they realized heavily on D'Angelo Russell, ru hachimurvo I
like Torrian, Prince Spencer, didnwitty and let's just cut to

(08:33):
the chase. After you just saw the Boston Celtics and
their depth in the NBA Finals, can you really realistically
feel good about the Lakers? Nicely done, Mark, This is
what happens with lebron led teams. They're going to exhaust
every available option to win now, and it's delusional. Somehow

(08:56):
they did it four years ago in the bubble. I
don't care. I will say if the rest of my
life I lived to be ninety eight, the Lakers would
not have won that year. If it hadn't been in
the bubble. They didn't have to travel and they got
four months off, and with that aging roster, with aching
legs and aching backs and a bunch of pain in
the asses, they would not have won. No, I won't

(09:17):
give them an asteris that's not fair because everybody had
played by the same rules. They wont it far and square.
You don't like it too bad, so you problem give
them their props. But this year, you gotta travel and
you don't have four months off. All right, So the Lakers' strategy,
if they have one, appears to be very myopic. Okay,
the good news is JJ Redick would be catching some

(09:39):
nice checks thirty two divided by fours eight million a year.
That's not bad. It's a lot more than a lot
of other NBA coaches make. But if you turn on
the TV next June and the NBA Finals are on,
what do you want to bet the Lakers are not
in it? And if that's the case, you can't say
it was this successful year. So the bottom line is this,

(10:00):
This will be fun to watch. It's all about the theater.
Dick Schapp taught me a long time ago. What's your
favorite sports people? Who's your favorite team? No, how to
root for teams, to root for the story. We do
have a developing story, not the least of which we'll
start Thursday night. I didn't even get into the Lebron
BROWNI Michigans and what are you going to do? There?
A huge side show. I'm not going to get into it.

(10:23):
We'll do that later with Mark Mandina at midnight. You
know where I was going with that. Anyway, it does
it really matter coming up? Aaron trus and JJ Reddick
have a history. I think Reddick even had a nickname
for him. And I think I'm going to give Taurus
the victory in that battle, because who came out looking better? Frankly,
and if you listen to the subtext of what Aaron

(10:44):
was talking about, he was spot on. By the way
I covered the four Lakers Pistons series. Why did I
bring that up? Okay, Piston's one and five. Three of
the four victories that the Pistons had, they accumulated eighty
eight points. Yeah, team scored eighty eight points. So there
was a time when defense truly was played. Those were

(11:05):
defensive minded coaches and defensive minded rosters. And if they
played that kind of defense now, but it may not
be good for TV ratings, and blah blah blah. You
get the point. Anyway, you're gonna enjoy this, and I
think it might speak to you whether or not JJ
Reddick has the temperament. How will he react when things
start to go south? If they do, it's inevitable, there's
always going to be speed bumps. I talked about this

(11:26):
last night with the Boston Celtics when I gave him
their flowers. I give a lot of credit to Joe
Miszula and Brad Stevens for their patience, for their leadership,
for their composure. How many people wanted Joe Missoula fired
last year after they got slammed by Miami. No. I
really am impressed with Joe Mizula. When heat got hot
and was hard to breathe, he looked like a dude

(11:47):
you want to be around. Kudos. Will JJ Reddick be
that guy? Remember Chuck Dailey told me coaching an NBA
team is like managing an adult daycare center. He didn't
say that a pejorative. They're just growing men with live
and families, and they have a lot of money, and
how they're treated is going to be determined by how
you are accepted in the locker room is how you're

(12:08):
able to treat them. They all get the x's and no's,
they all know why they're there, and they all want
to win. Coming up, we'll talk about Aaron Torres and
JJ Reddick, a match at one time made in Heaven.
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Speaker 2 (13:00):
All right back in the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio,
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covers all levels of basketball for Fox Sports Radio. So

(13:23):
hello to my guy, Aaron Torris. Hi, Aaron, Hi doing bud.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
I am doing fantastic for how you doing good?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I've been looking forward to this segment. We talked about
it a couple of weeks ago. We both felt it
was a FATA complee. Eventually that JJ Reddick would be
hired before we get started. I want to bring the
folks in we might not have been paying attention a
couple of years ago. You had a little tet of
tet with him. I'm going to give you the w
but it got interesting because you got his attention and
he created a bit of a nickname for you. Let's

(13:53):
give it a listen.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
I had this tweet the other day some knucklehead said,
if NBA teams play defense as hard as college kids,
I bet you the scores would be in the seventies
and eighties too. First of all, I mean it's just math.
First of all, the shock clocks longer, so there's gonna
be more possessions in NBA game, and there's eight more
minutes of basketball, so that's not possible.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Aaron, I have a question before I make my statement,
and I'll turn the flow over to you. Who was
JJ Reddicks clapping seal partner that you know every time
you tiss him. Who was he with that day? Do
you recall?

Speaker 5 (14:29):
Well, he had Kevin Durant in studio with him, which
was funny because listen, I can criticize JJ Redick. And
by the way, if you missed my show earlier, I
kind of gave some more context if you heard. If
you if you heard my tweet. By the way, I
did not tweet at him. I was tweeting about an
nca tournament game, and then he tweeted at me. But

(14:51):
it was funny. You know, he's a great You know,
he had a very successful podcast. I assume he's giving up,
But probably the biggest guess he was ever going to
get was of a nant, and he was at that time.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I have a reason because I've listened to you that
clip many times and that guy when I was old. No,
they play it more minutes. Well, I got your back, Aaron,
big time, because Cason point real quickly. Two thousand and four,
I covered the Lakers Pistons final. The Pistons one and five,
three to four games of Pisons scored eighty eight points
in victory. So defense has been played at the NBA.

(15:27):
Your point was irrefutable. I think you got you got Reddick.
You got in his fields there, which leeds to which
sort of sets the stage for what I want to
talk about. Aaron. Do you think JJ Redick has the
temperament to coach an NBA team over eighty two games?

Speaker 7 (15:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:44):
You know, it's really funny. First of all, Bernie, it's
funny you say that, because one, I never said that
NBA players don't play defense. I said, I simply say
that the rules in college were different. And I went
back to that two thousand and four NBA Finals because
that was in the handcheck when the defensive rules were
different and favored defense more than the offense. So I'm

(16:06):
glad you framed it that way. But to answer your
question directly, listen, you know we talked about on my
show tonight, is that maybe I'm being overly sensitive because
you know, he said some things about me that I
don't appreciate. But I also just think that there's a
certain way that a person in the stature of that
job has to carry themselves. And I don't think it's

(16:27):
going around calling people you disagree with and fhead, you know,
I mean, I said it's j mart I said, I
don't think that if Eric Spolstra disagreed with somebody, that's
the way he would speak about them. Jason Kidd, I
don't think that's the way he would speak about somebody
he disagrees with. Joe Massoula, Steve Kerr, on and on,
and so I think this is a big thing burn

(16:48):
because you know, we're talking about a situation you're gonna have,
in a best case scenario, a forty year old superstar.
And even if somehow Lebron turns back the clock, which
I don't think he's gonna be able to do, so,
there are still going to be moments where you lose
three or four, where you have two bad weeks where
Lebron and ad are both unavailable. There are going to

(17:09):
be tough times over an eighty two game season, even
if it works out better than any of us anticipate.
And I just am very curious. Is is that how
he's going to handle himself. Is that how he's going
to handle the press. Is that the language that he's
going to use, Because again there's a level of I
think the word he used, and I agree with his
maturity that I know Joe Mizzoula has that I know

(17:32):
Eric Spolster has. Frankly, I don't think JJ Reddick has.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Talk with Aaron Taurus. Our basketball grew here on Fox
Sports Radio. Let's get down on the floor, Aaron, you
know the game as well as anybody. When the regular
season starts, JJ Reddick's going to have to deal with
things like game management and substitution patterns and maximizing plays
coming out of a timeout, and certainly there'll be all
kinds of situational points during the game. I get it.

(17:59):
He's got the high I get it, he's got the
work ethic. But he's going to have to learn on
the job and produce results in the Lakers circus. What
are your thoughts on how that's going to play out?

Speaker 7 (18:08):
Well, a couple of things.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
One, you know, Bernie, you and I can know every
stat from every basketball, football, baseball game until you sit
in front of that mic. You know, do you know
how to move the traffic along? Do you know how
to do a read? Do you know how to transit?
I mean, there's just things about the job that you
can't possibly know if you've ever done it. But Two,
you know, I had a former coach bring this up

(18:31):
to me. And I won't use the coach's name because
I don't want to put him on the spot, but
he said he watched one of the clips with Lebron
and JJ from their podcast, and just as an example,
he drew up a play. You know, a diagram to
play and he used xs for the offensive players and
os for the defensive players, and he said, anyone who's

(18:53):
ever coached at any level knows that you always put
the O for the offense in the X for the defense.
And that was an example of like, those are the
things that you know you're going to get laughed out
of the huddle by dudes that have been there for
You know, Anthony Davis been in a league for a decade.
Lebron's been in the league for two decades, and I

(19:14):
know he's a Lebron's guy, But if you can't command
that huddle, if you can't earn that respect, and I
just think there's going to be moments where it's not
going to be his fault. But he doesn't even know
any better. I know I'm going along. But one last
thing I just heard not that long ago Billy Donovan
talking about his first year and like everything that he

(19:35):
had to learn. And this was a guy that won
national championships at college, but it was just a different
deal coaching pros. I think it's going to be a
much bigger learning curve than anybody is acknowledging right now,
certainly JJ Reddick and certainly the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right I've said it at times, I'll say it again.
Chuck daily told me coaching an NBA teams, managing in
a built daycare center. I've even gotten to the Bronni
James part yet, Aaron, to the best of your knowledge,
has JJ Reddick genuinely bought into the Brownie James aspect
of this? Or is he just going along with it
because he's got thirty two million reasons.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
To Oh, I think he'd have thirty You know, he's
probably making really good money at ESPN, and that I
just I would assume that he is aware of that.
I just I think, you know, this has all been
coordinated for a while obviously between lebron him Clutched whoever.

(20:32):
I think I don't think Dan Hurley was ever a
serious candidate. Maybe that's my Yukon bias coming in whatever,
So I would think that that JJ has to know.
But again that's another element, right, is that you know,
do you think that it's going to be a certain way?
And again we just heard the way that he speaks
in everyday life. Well, what's going to happen when you

(20:54):
do have to curse out Bronnie? What's going to happen
when he does do something wrong in practice? Pease? Frankly,
he's probably just frankly not good up everybody else? Or
are you going to be afraid to coach him? And
I know, by the way, if you're afraid to coach him,
And I'm just using these players as hypotheticals. What is
Austin Reeve's gonna think of you? What is Rory Hutcher
Moore gonna think of you? Oh, you're You're not really

(21:15):
coming down on that kid because we know who his
dad is. So again, these are all variables that I think. Listen,
Frank Vogel won an NBA championship with Lebron, but I
don't think he had a great feel for how to
quote unquote manage Lebron. You know, David Blatt was successful
at every stop and led to the Cleveland Cavaliers by

(21:36):
the way to the finals, and I don't think he
ever figured out how to manage Lebron. Now again, JJ
in his first stop and the Broni factor. I just
think to your point, Bernie is probably much bigger than
he realizes. And again, I think it just speaks to
it sounds great on a podcast, and you know, he

(21:56):
definitely has a smartest guy in the room vibe him
and how he carries himself and what he thinks of himself.
But until you're in that, you know, until you're in
the trenches, until you have to make those decisions, until
you have to criticize Brianni in front of his dad,
I just don't think he fully knows what he's getting

(22:16):
himself into.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Last thing, Aaron, I think this is pertinent. What does
it say when JJ Reddick, just a dude going about
his life as you were doing your job, he blocks you.
What is that message?

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Well, I mean I think it mean it means he's
a little bit soft. You know, it's funny basically why
he blocked me on social media because you know, Bertie,
I have a little I'm from the East Coast and
I have a little you know, I don't start fights.
I finished him, so you know, I kind of made
it a priority that every time a team did score
in the seventies and eighties, because I don't know if
you heard, but it's a math equation, Bernie, It's a

(22:52):
math yeah, yes, eight more minutes in an NBA Bridie.
I don't know if you caught the final score of
Game five of the end NBA Finals. I believe Boston
won one oh six eighty nine, So you know, it's
a math equation if there's eight more minutes in the NBA.
In three of the finals games this year, the losing

(23:13):
team didn't break nineties, so defense still matters. But yeah, no,
I kind of made it a priority to just to
make sure because I know Jaz is a huge basketball fan.
I just want to make sure that when a team
scored in the eighties or nineties or a seventies or eighties,
that he was aware of it. So I may have
tweeted him every single time it happened. Oh, by the way,

(23:33):
did you see a JJ? Did you see Minnesota beat
the Jazz and the Jazz only scored eighty eight? Just
want to make sure you saw JJ. And then what
ended up happening, which was funny, was a lot of
my followers, a lot of listeners to my show, both
my podcast and Fox Sports Radio kind of made it
a priority to tweet at him as well, just to
let him know. So eventually he blocked me. By the way,

(23:56):
if anybody wanted to get JJ some final scores from
Game five of the NBA Finals, feel free to tweet
at him at JJ Underscore Reddick. Just let him know
you know the Mavericks didn't break ninety in the final
game of the NBA Finals. Three of the five the
losing team didn't break ninety. Just thought he might want
to know that, But again, what do I know? It's

(24:18):
a math equation as so clearly I don't know anything
about basketball.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I love it big finish there. I'd give you the
w Aaron Torres won, JJ Reddick zip enjoy the rest
of your evening, buddy.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Well, I think he's gonna be taking a lot of
LS as the Lakers head coach, so I think it's
good for him to get used to taking the LP
from me too.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
All right, eron, have fun, Sondy. You're back on your
way Sunday. Correct.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, I'll be on with Mark Willard at eight eastern
five Pacific.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Can't wait, all right, Aaron, appreciate you, Bud, talk soon.

Speaker 7 (24:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Bernie's Aaron Torris. As you can see, if he can
just get over the shyness, he's going to be just fine.
But if you follow that in kind between him and
JJ Redick, Aaron was in the right sorry spot the
line spot where Aaron was wrong in any of these
And Aaron didn't call anybody any names either, So just
calling it like it is all right. Well, if you

(25:15):
didn't have enough before at one pm Pacific on Sunday,
the most watched sports event I guarantee of the day.
Maybe the weekend will be Yes, you got it. Caitlin
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Speaker 8 (25:36):
Yes, Bernie. Was a full day of Major League baseball
on Saturday, the Dodgers getting a win against the La
Angels seven to two after losing last night in extra innings.
The Dodgers getting the win behind another big blast from
Choe Aotani swung on a.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Hammer where back in God he is one man, three nothing.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
Dodgers to never it on the Dodgers Radio Network with
the call. LA getting the win behind a strong performance
from Tyler Glass now seven innings with one earned run allowed.
He also had ten strikeouts, throwing just seventy four pitches.
The Yankees beat the Braves eight three behind Aaron judges
twenty eighth home run of the season. Rockies and Nationals,

(26:24):
It's the Colorado Rockies getting the win on a pitchclock violation.

Speaker 9 (26:29):
Three balls, two strikes, tied at seven.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
The pitch time cold.

Speaker 10 (26:36):
Time violation on pitchclock violation on Finnegan and that's the game.

Speaker 9 (26:44):
The Rockies on the pitcher Finnegan taking too much time.

Speaker 8 (26:50):
That becomes ball four and for the first.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Time in the new rules, the.

Speaker 9 (26:57):
Rockies have a walk off on a hitch violation.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
Rockies Radio Network with the call Colorado getting the win
because Kyle Finn again took too much time, didn't get
the pitch off in time, and they're able to get
the victory. San Diego, the Padres now have won four
straight games, including a six to four victory against the
Brewers Saturday ninth. The Astros have also won four straight games.
They beat the Orioles five one. The Cleveland Guardians also

(27:22):
with a four game winning streak, a six to three
win against Toronto on Saturday included. The Twins beat the
Oakland Athletics ten to two, as Oakland now a dreadful
twenty nine to fifty on the season. Minnesota's Bailey over
and only eighty nine pitches, tossing a complete game with
ten strikeouts. I believe they call that a Mattix right,
a complete game with less than one hundred pitches. Philadelphia

(27:43):
ripped Arizona twelve to one, The Cubs blasted the Mets
eight to one, and the White Sox beat the Detroit
Tigers five to one. College World Series. It's a best
of three final and it's Texas A and M taking
the opener against Tennessee at nine to five WNBA. The
New York Liberty beat the LA Sparks ninety eight eighty
eight behind thirty three points from Brianna Stewart. Travelers Championship.

(28:05):
Tom Kim leads by one stroke. Scottie Scheffler tied for
second place. Cam Young shot fifty nine today and is
tied for eighth place. Copa America, Mexico won its opener
one nil against Jamaica. Earlier in Venezuela came back to
be Ecuador two to one. The US does open against
Bolivia tomorrow on Fox TV. Kickoff set for around six

(28:27):
o'clock Eastern time. And at the Euro Tournament, Belgium beats
Romania two nil, Portugal shutting out Turkey three nil, and
the Czech Republic tize. Georgia won one Will hear more
about both of these tournaments from Chris purfet In at
the bottom of our two o'clock hour. Back to you, Berniey.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
So, the ten most expensive WNBA games this season involved
the Indiana Fever, and you know why. One of those
will be Sunday. Two hundred and seventy one dollars is
the ticket price to get into that game, and it'll
be shown live on ESPN one pm Pacific. And essentially

(29:07):
what we now have confirmation of is that the rivalry
between Caitlin Clark and Angel Reies that was in college
is carried over into the w NBA, hence the record
ticket prices. This will be the third time the Fever
in the Sky I've met the season, the first time
the two teams, though, will play in Chicago and when

(29:28):
Trust Arena. The first two matchups, both won by the Fever,
were in Indianapolis. Here's what's interesting. The average price of
a ticket for the first game was a little over
one hundred dollars, the second game with one hundred and
twenty four dollars. It's now jumped to two hundred and
seventy one dollars. You think there's interest, Well it's not.

(29:48):
Just what's happening too on the scoreboard, and the first
matchup between Indiana and Chicago, the Fever won, and frankly
it was overshadowed Kennedy Carter. Chicago's Kennedy Carter called her
a name rhymes with witch, shoved her from behind. Alberta
were in the back. It was not a basketball play

(30:09):
was met with some backlash, and how the Sky and
Carter handled the incident frankly was worse facts spot the lie.
It was unnecessary, but it happened. Then the two teams
met recently again, this time Aja Reese was assessed with
a flavor and file after in a Fish review she
hit Caitlin Clark in the head on a draft of

(30:29):
the basket. I have no idea if it was intentional
or not. Angel Rees was very unapologetic about it, complained
about the refs, complaining other people are getting preferential treatment. Meanwhile,
the Fever won again. So here we are now round three.
And by the way, it's been a great couple of
weeks for Angel Reese. She just set a WNBA rookie

(30:50):
record for most consecutive double doubles. She's a damn good player,
great low post player, great pastor, great court vision, really
a terrific player. For some reason, she's got it in
her head that she just can't get along without all
this crazy Michigas. She's got it in for Kitlin Clark
and they're in lives. I think the draw. There are

(31:12):
deeper storylines, there are subplots. The broader discussion around Caitlin
Clark and Angel Reese is always about everything other than basketball.
So will that continue on on Sunday. I don't know.
We're gonna have to have to watch it. And by
the way, it's been going on since college, all right.

(31:33):
In twenty twenty three, there was a March Madness game
I think I would beat LSU in the Elite Aid,
but then there was a showdown a rematch in the
NCAA title game that was won by LSU and that
three historic leader of viewership, and that basically set the
stage for this ongoing professional rivalry. It's not, you know,

(31:58):
I don't even know if it's a rivalry. I just
I think it just look at the actions. Angel Reese
wins a national championship and was a key cog and
a very good team, and the minute she wins the
championships she's got to follow Caitlyn Clark around the arena
with her hand in her face. Okay, if that's whatever,
crank's your tractor, that's what your fee, you gotta do.

(32:20):
And I don't care. It's just this makes for talking
points on the radio. We'll see if it continues. But
the bottom line has just been good for business. And
when you stick to basketball, Reese has been a damn
good player this year. She's been a really good player.
And frankly so it's Kitlin Clark. She started to get
her flowers. Now she's done a lot of good things
so far, and we're talking about the WNBA more than

(32:42):
ever primarily because of those two. So this is what
you root for in storage. She root for the story
and you root for the opportunity to see what will
develop above and beyond coming up. You know, we've talked
about the new Lakers head coach. We've certainly talked about

(33:03):
the fact that you know, in Lebron's tenure, David Black, Tyloo,
Darvinham when they became Lebron's head coach, none of them
had any NBA head coaching experience. None of them lasted
more than two years. But what's interesting is. It's not
just Lebron and it's not just the coaches who've been

(33:24):
with the Lakers. We now have another NBA season. It's frankly,
it's now in the rearview mirror. But when it comes
to coaching, when it comes to the head coaching profession
in the NBA, the truth is, tenure is not what
it used to be. I'll share some stats with you
coming up. It's like not a lot of job security

(33:44):
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Mark Medina Medina Magic. He's on my show, The Bernie
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We do it fifty two weeks out of the year.
This year, tonight, there is so much meat on the bone.
We're gonna do a double shot because there is that

(35:09):
much meat on the bone. And I'm gonna take Mark
down a couple of angles tonight that he might not
see coming, but I think it will engender. Maybe it
bore broad based discussion as opposed to just simply reacting
to what the news is, so I'll save that for
top of the hour. As you heard me mention a

(35:30):
minute ago. Okay, the NBA season is now in the
rear view mirror, and what has become increasingly apparent is
there is really very little or no stability when it
comes to the head coaching profession in the NBA. I mean,
the Detroit Pistons just paid where they're gonna pay their owner,

(35:52):
Tom Gores, who's worth about seven billion dollars. It's gonna
pay money Williams sixty five million dollars to not coach
after one year. All right, So the truth is, tenure
is not what he used to be.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
You know.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Darvin Ham I think, was very unceremoniously removed from his job,
as was David Blatt and Ty lu back in the
day and Frank Vogel. Now Thursday, JJ Reddick was announced
he will become the new Lakers head coach. If you're
scoring at home, and I hope you are, he'll become

(36:26):
the twenty ninth coach in Lakers history. And by the way,
this will be the eighth since Phil Jackson retired and
the fourth end the Lebron tenure. The Lakers have been
around about seven years, if not longer. So you see
how this is coming fast and furious, and he currently
is the obviously he's the shortest tenured coach in the

(36:47):
NBA until the Calves and the Pistons high replacements for
Monty Williams and JB. Bickerstaff, And you know what the hell,
he earned it. He earned it right. He's a podcaster
who's never coached at a level beyond youth basketball. But
I get it. He did a hell of a job
with those nine years old nine year olds, And I

(37:09):
get it. He's smart and he's got a high basketball
like you, and he's gonna work hard and he gets
to learn on the job in the white hot intensity
of a million sons of this circus known as the Lakers.
And don't act like it's not a circus, all right,
But before we throw JJ Reddick under the bus because
it doesn't have any coaching experience, he's not that far
behind when it comes to experience. With other NBA coaches

(37:31):
currently on the job. You probably don't even know the
name Jordi Fernanis and the Brooklyn Nets, or Charles Lee
and the Charlotte Ortis. They're also both making their head
coaching debuts this season along with Reddick. But they're not
a sexy beyah, exactly, They're not a sexy because it's
not the Lakers. Maybe you were aware that Brian Keef
of the Washington Wizards spent less than one full season

(37:52):
as a head coach, and doct Orakovic of the Toronto
Raptors will be entering its second full season. In fact,
only five t half coaches who were hired before the
start of the pandemic. That's not that long ago. The
pandemic really got into full swing about March or April
of twenty twenty four years and out of thirty two teams,

(38:17):
you mean to tell me that's only five teams half
coaches who were here before the start of the pandemic. Now,
as a rule of thumb, not unlike the NFL, approximately
five teams changed coaches every single offseason. But in the
last two years, since May of twenty twenty two, fifteen

(38:40):
teams have changed head coaches. So now JJ Reddick will
have the distinction of being the sixth head coach in
the last decade. It'll be the ninth head coach to
face the Miami Heat in the A Spolstra era. He's
one of those five who's been around. Of course, if
Lebron would have had his way, he'd got him fired.

(39:00):
The moral of the story. And I am not predicting this,
and I certainly am not hoping for this, and I
don't want to cast dispersions, and don't even tell me
about a jinx. I don't have that kind of power.
But if passed his prologue the moral of the story,

(39:21):
it's unlikely that JJ Reddick is going to last that
long two years, three years, I don't know. Again, I
hope I'm wrong. I'm watching this. The good news is
for Reddick is that it should only take about three
years to become one of the longest ten yured coaches
in the NBA. And he's got three two million reasons

(39:43):
to want to do a good job. This is going
to be fun to watch. The problem is the Lakers
are out manned. Look at their roster. Pete Rose said
it best coaching is like driving a stage coach without
the horses. He ain't going forward coming out Mark Medina
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always a big week. At midnight Pacific time on The
Bernie Fraddle Show, three simple words, it's that time. Mark Menina,
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(40:50):
all around the network twenty four to seven, three sixty
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Bernie Fraddle Show. Mark. Really good to have you tonight.
We really have a lot to get to Bernie.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
We sure do. I think last week we left it off.
We jj Riddick finally got hired with the Lakers. I
think we got an answer.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, and the most daily climatic news probably in the
history of man. But the true matter is there's always
storylines around it. And I think where I want to
start here Mark is no one questions the basketball IQ
the work ethic, but he's going to be learning on
the job and You've heard me see it a thousand times.

(41:27):
Chuck Daly has said managing coaching an NBA team's managing
a Bill daycare center. Does he have the temperament given
the fact that Tyler, David Blatt, Darvinham, three coaches Lebron
had all had one thing in common. They had no
coaching experience and they all laught in two years. Your thoughts,
you got the floor.

Speaker 7 (41:46):
Yeah, I think JJ Riddick has a tupper bensal succeed.
I mean, I think the most important thing is that
he's obsessed with the craft. He puts in a lot
of work. Former NBA player who cement himself with the
pretty strong reputation, is a great shooter, great hustler, and
great teammate and those are things that can per me

(42:07):
in the locker room and help set his podcast partners
Lebron James, who's the most important player on the team,
and there's a buy in there. But even with all
those positive attributes, I think that there's a lot of
challenges that he has with the Lakers because there's three
objectives that are trying to achieve that seem like it's
impossible to achieve at once. They're trying to maximize the

(42:28):
last few years of Lebron James' career. They're trying to
pass the tour Anthony Davis, so he's the face of
the franchise, and they're trying to develop both the role players,
young players and future role players that they get possibly
this offseason, and usually you have to prioritize one of
them because when you try to do everything, there's the

(42:49):
danger of not being able to do all. You add
in the fact that it's the Lakers Lebron, there's more pressure.
They always have championship expectations. I can't help but think
that this is what's going to happen. JJ Reddick's going
to be a successful head coach, but I think that
his time with the Lakers will feature a lot of
ups and downs, and maybe his success is more likely

(43:09):
with another team.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
And I'm okay with the ups and downs. Look what
happened to Joe Mozoula the last couple of years, and
I gave him a lot of prompts last night because
he was really able to navigate through that. All right,
let's go to the floor, because eventually they're going to
get down ninety four feet against the Likes. Of OKC,
in Denver, in Minnesota and Dallas. Tell me how you
think JJ Reddick's going to handle things like game management

(43:34):
or substitution patterns, they're maximizing plays coming out of timeouts,
or certainly the situational points that you have during every game.
And I haven't even gotten to his staff yet. You
got the floor and all those issues.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
Yeah, well the extras and O is managing the game,
calling timeouts. I think JJ Reddick's going to do great
with all those things. And I know that the Lakers
took a lot of priority in finding a head coach
that I feel like had those qualities. One because you
want to have the head coach that doesn't, but two
that was basically the m and Darvin Hamm on what
he lacked. I think that the problem is you can

(44:08):
have all the x's and o's in the great game management,
but if you have a flawed roster that is either
going to have a lot of health issues or just
continuity problems, or just lack of talent and depth, it's
not going to make too much of a difference against
teams like Oklahoma City, Denver, Minnesota, and Dallas. Now to
your point about the coaching staff as another thing that

(44:30):
the Lakers took high priority on that it wasn't just
about the candidate, whether they went for Dan Hurley or
JJ Redick or James Barrego. They found that they're coaching
staff an extension of that head coach. Now, ironically the
coaching staff hasn't been finalized yet, but I think that

(44:51):
the message is clear that it's about getting enough of
a combination of experience on the sideline as well as
some people that could be really good with player development
and it can go hand in hand. So when you
look at the candidates, it's been out there. You know,
someone like Scott Brooks, who has been a head coach

(45:11):
in Oklahoma City and Washington assistant coach with Portland. I
think that he would be an ideal candid as a
veteran assistant coach. And then you have people like Rajon
Rondo Jared Dudley. You know, Jared Dudley has been more
on the player development and Rajon Rondo hasn't been having
any coaching experience yet. But there are two former NBA
players that are very well respected for their basketball IQ

(45:34):
and they're well respect in the locker room and they
know how to tell it like it is. But you know,
I would also argue they should go for someone like
Terry Stotts and might raise a few eyebrows because he
and Adrian Griffin didn't see eye to eye, but I
think that had more to do with Adrian Griffin than
anything else, and also the fact that he didn't do

(45:55):
a great job. But I think that Terry Stotts is
a great offensive mind. He's all his time in Portland
and I think that he would be very supportive of JJ.
But I don't think he's in the mix, but he
would be a good chance of talking.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
With Mark Medina Medina Magic every Saturday night here on
the Bernie Fraterschel at midnight Pacific. All right, I'm going
to invoke the name Sam Cassell and this is going
to be a two part conversation. I'm told vs his
future as an assistant. He gave the Lakers an absolutely
hard note. Is that true? Did you hear that as well?

Speaker 7 (46:30):
I haven't heard that, but I'm going to be surprised
that he would even go there anyway, because I think
Boston would make it worth hiss wow Tuesday. No, I
don't know if he's given a formal hard no I
know that they've talked, but I don't know if it
reached definitive conclusions. But regardless of that, if it ever
got to that point, I think the Celtics won't allow

(46:52):
him to leave. I mean, I don't mean that literally,
Sam Caseelkrich is what he wants, but as far as
making it worth his wold to stay, as far as
a promotion within that staff.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
All right, So here's the second part of the conversation.
Mark It's time for some real talk. Sam Cassell has
fifteen years as an assistant coach. He's been part of
four NBA championship teams, three as a player, one as
an assistant coach. He's been an All Star, he's been
an All NBA player. Now he doesn't have a podcast
or anything, but you tell me why you to them?

(47:25):
Maybe that's it in this day and age. If I'm
the Lakers and I'm really serious about a head coach
or checks a hell of a lot of boxes. And
we can talk about Darvin Ham all day long. But
let's not forget he presided over a team that got
to the Western Conference finals. So let's just include that
as part of the dialogue. What am I missing as

(47:45):
to why the Lakers wouldn't seriously talk to or consider
Sam Cassell. Where did he fall short? Given the resume
I just gave you, he.

Speaker 7 (47:52):
Hasn't falling short. I gotta strust to you on that one.
They've talked. I guess what I'm stressing. I didn't hear
that Sam Cassell gave a hard no, but I think
that it was pretty clear that Boston would do what
it takes to promote his position. I think that's already
going to say.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
So.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
You don't think if the Lakers made Sam Cassel an
offer somewhere between what they gave JJ Reddick and Danny Early,
do you think he turned it down to be loyal
to the Celtics.

Speaker 7 (48:22):
No, But I think it's the devil's in the details.
But I think that Sam Cassell is probably feels like
he can be a little more selective because he's with
a good organization and there could be better positions open
right now. I think in JJ Reddick's case, he doesn't
necessarily have to take this position because he set himself

(48:45):
up to do a lot of good work in the
media space, in the broadcasting space. But I think when
you look at the other teams that he interviewed for,
you know, Charlotte. That doesn't really leave a lot to
be desiredired, And so I think the Lakers the brand
still stands out. You still have Lebron and even if

(49:06):
there's a lot of challenging things that he's going to inherit,
I don't think that it's going to be taken against
him that strongly because I think the mL will be like,
you know what, he was in an organization that you know,
didn't have a good roster and it's hard to really manage,
and the front office hasn't kept coaches head coaches that long,

(49:28):
so it's a mulligan, and if it's a success, it'll
be seen as, hey, the next example of a former
NBA player without experience having a lot of success. I
think in Sam Cassell's case, though he's already with a
good organization, he has relationships, he doesn't necessarily need that role.
But again, to your point, he may have turned them

(49:51):
down directly. I just hadn't heard that. But regardless, I
think Boston's making his interest that it's not worth to
jump three thousand.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I'm fairly secure in the knowledge the Lakers never offered
him the head coaching position. So it's a conversation worth
having because he has a hell of a resume and
nothing against JJ Raddick. But this is why I do
this show to try to provoke thoughts. So Mark, hang tight.
He did a great article this week in sports Keta
sort of disavowing the notion that NBA executives would draft

(50:23):
Bronnie James with the hope that lebron would join them.
We need to dive into that. And oh, by the way,
there's a draft this week for crying out loud, We've
got into that as well. So hang tight, right there, Mark,
Mark Medina Medina Magic every Saturday night midnight on The
Bernie Fraddle Show midnight Pacific. We've got to get into
this Bronnie James subject matter with Bronnie and the Lakers

(50:45):
and JJ Raddick and tie that into the NBA draft
and frankly, will Bronnie even be drafted? I'll give you
my thoughts on that coming up. I'm Bernie frattle Wire.
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(51:05):
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and Pacific six am Eastern. We continue with Mark Medina.
We are on the second half. Now we have a
lot to get to. Mark, let me just come out
of the gate like thirty yards of garlic. Three weeks ago,
I mentioned that I was told by a pretty good
source that Monni Williams would be gone after one year.

(51:27):
I didn't I can't take credit for the prediction, but
my source was right. Two weeks ago, I was pretty
emphatic it was only a ten percent chance Danny Hurley
would take the job. I'm going to make another prediction
that Brownnie James will not be drafted. Wow, well, I don't.

Speaker 7 (51:43):
See what you're ready to run. You're ready to get
the triple crown.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Here we'll see meetlof one said two out of three
ain't bad. But what I don't get Mark, By the way,
you wrote a very good piece for sports key to
this week that they know that teams might draft Bronnie
James with the hopes that lebron would join them. You
don't believe there's a lot of validity. So listen, they've

(52:08):
already got Lebron. He's not going anywhere with the Lakers.
You don't need to draft Bronnie bring him in as
a free agent.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
Your thoughts, Yeah, Well, the broader point is what you
just mentioned that you know this idea that teams are
going to scheme to draft Browny in hopes that Lebron
James signs is a veteran minimum Rich Paul has told
people not to do that. But the ironic part is,
at least from some of the executives I talked to,
is that no one's thinking that. Like when I asked

(52:37):
if there's any ability to that theory, one scout started laughing, said, yeah,
Lebron was thirty years old, but that's not the case anymore,
and he obviously isn't going to take a significant pay cut.
But I think the broader point is about Broni and
you know what people make of him as a player,
and the people I talk to, yeah, there is a

(52:59):
project that he's either going to be in the second
round or he'll be in the G League. So there's
a very good chance that your prediction will come true
because he doesn't have a defined skill set. He's a
decent role player that didn't play a lot of minutes.
He was buried on the depth chart, so it's really

(53:20):
hard to know what the end game is going to be. Now.
In Bronnie's defense, I will say this, there was one
executive in particular that I talked to that was very
high on these specific attributes with Bronnie. The fact that
he overcame uh you know, the cardiac arrest and had
the mental fortitude to overcome that, uh you know, on

(53:43):
the court. That takes a lot of mental toughness, especially
at your you know, at his college age, to have
such a health scare like that. He felt like he
plays the right way, and he makes the basketball right
the right makes the right basketball play. Helps that his father,
Lebron has taught him a thing or two about the game,
even though the skill level is completely different, and he

(54:06):
feels like he can't have a long productive career as
a role player. But in the short term, whether it's
that executive or other executives I've talked to, there's no
feeling whatsoever that he's going to be a game changer,
and it is very likely that whether he gets selected
in the second round or goes undrafted. That he's spending

(54:30):
most if not all, of next season in the G League,
and so I validate your points overall. But I think
what will happen is this, The Lakers will draft him
because they have the fifty fifth pick, and I think
in their mind there's no harm in selecting them and
then having him play for the G League team. But

(54:51):
I think there's a clear difference between the Lakers picking
Browny because they have a fifty fifth pick versus, oh,
they're picking Browny to try to lebron or they're going
to move up higher in the draft. They're not going
to give up draft assets just to get Bronnie. They're
just they're going to select Browny because it's convenient and
there's no consequence to do it. I don't think they

(55:12):
would do it if it was about playing him actual minutes,
let alone having a roster spot on the actual team.
So I think they draft him. They signed him to
a two way, and he's spending most of his time
with the G League team down the South, So.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
You covered a lot of good ground there, and I'm
able to hold two thoughts concurrently. But draft capital is valuable.
There's only fifty eight total picks in the draft this
year because his sons and six ers both forfeited one
of their selections, So either goes fifty fifth or not
at all. But when you look at the talent in
this draft from an international standpoint, and I see no

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scenario where Bronnie gets on the floor for anybody in
twenty twenty four, twenty five and helps him win a
meaningful game. And by the way, let me just switch
gears ever so quickly and throw a curveball. Because the
Lakers have a first round pick they draft seventeenth overall,
I'm hearing they may tap Johnny Furfey out of Kansas

(56:15):
as that pick, and he's a six to seven guy
with you can catch and shoot. I think he'd be
a good asset. Have you heard that at all?

Speaker 7 (56:24):
Heard? I haven't heard specifically that name. I've heard that
the Lakers are really weighing the philosophy on do they
use it for a player or do they package their
three picks that they can trade on Draft night to
you know, get a star player. And I think when
you look at these past two years, the Lakers have

(56:46):
made the conclusion that they're better off with Lebron James,
Anthony Davis having a decent or strong supporting cast versus
having a third star. But the Lakers being the Lakers,
they're never a hoose having a third star. I think
that they were just a little leery of getting that
kind of player and then having to rely on veterans

(57:08):
minimum contracts to fill out the rest of the roster.
So with all that, I think, and this is just
my thinking, I think the Lakers are more inclined to
trade these first round picks because it will make more
impact than developing a young player. And I think the

(57:28):
reason they're doing that is Lebron James only has so
many years left. As long as he's on that team
and relatively healthy, the Lakers feel they still have a shot.
It might be slim, the window might look shut to
most of us, but in their mind, the window's still open.
I's not a slight crack because Lebron's still on the team,

(57:50):
so very well may happen what you've been told, But
you know, I want to be surprised if they decide
to put their chips in.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
And I wouldn't be surprised either. We're talking Mark Mdina,
Medina Magic every Saturday night at midnight Pacific on The
Bernie Fraddle Show. I am so good. I'm so glad
Mark you went down that road. It opens the door
for me to say this and has to have another
roundtable discussion. I realize Lakers have some wiggle room to
improve their roster. They have three first round picks. Okay,

(58:20):
so let's wargame this. Who do you go get? Trey Young,
Zach Lavine, Brandon Ingram, Jared Jimmy Butler. And even if
you get one of those guys, does it really move
the Lakers into serious contention? No, it doesn't. And it's
the same fortune cookie wisdom that's going to kill the
Lakers the next two years because they really believe they

(58:41):
can win now when I don't think they're anywhere near
leaping Dallas, Denver, OKC or Minnesota. You got the floor.

Speaker 7 (58:48):
Yeah, I mean it's all fair points. So when you
look at those players in particular, I do a hard
know on Zach Lavine. I mean, he's been injury prone
and he doesn't play defense, so what's the point. I mean,
he's a great defensive score. Trey Young, I think that
he's improved in some of those areas. But as much
as the Lakers would benefit, especially assuming D'Angel Russell ops

(59:11):
out of his current contract, he has shown that he
may live up to the big moments, but he can't
help produce winning basketball on a consistent basis. I think
the Lakers would be more inclined to get to Jonte
Murray from Atlanta. But I think the problem is I
don't think Atlanta wants to give up to Jonte, So

(59:31):
that's going to be another challenge. Who is the other
player that you mentioned, Brandon Ingram? It'll be quite ironic
because he was part of the Anthony Davis trade. I
can't think that the Pelicans would find that their picks
and some of their supporting casts are worth pulling the

(59:53):
trigger on Ingram.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
I know I'm in agreement with all that, and so
that is maybe Jimmy Butler and DeMar De Rosen. They're
both thirty five years old. You see, we're on one
with it. You released the three, you released that draft cap.

Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
I think demarg Rosa would be good. Yeah, he's thirty
five years old, but he's been a gamer, he's been
mostly healthy, he plays the right way, he's a great teammate.
I would do it for him. Jimmy Butler, I wont it.
Love his competitiveness and everything about him, but he's just
had a lot of injuries these last years. I think

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with Miami they wouldn't want to be trying to trade
Jimmy Butler if it wasn't for the new CBA where
he's eligible for an extension, even though he has two
years left on his contract. I think from Miami's point
of view, they just don't feel comfortable committing even more
years when he's thirty four years old. He's had so

(01:00:46):
many injuries, but they're perfectly fine with riding out the
two years left on his current deal. But because they've
declined that contract, that may have rubbed Jimmy the wrong way.
And I think that they're also pragmatic that, hey, now
is the time to try to get something of value
for him because of that. But I don't think the

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Lakers would want to do that because of his injury history.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Do you not agree though, that trying to acquire that
third star, even if it is Demarto Rosen, completely restricts
the Lakers' ability to build out the roster. It's just
you look at the depth of the Celtics, what they
did this is the bar. They're nowhere near that bar.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
Well, I think that is all true, But I think
that we're dealing with apples and orange is with the
Celtics and the Lakers right now, because the Lakers' core
players are at the tail end of their career. I mean,
at least Lebron, James Is and Anthony Davis. He's improved,
he's technically in his prime, but you can't bank that

(01:01:46):
he'll always be completely healthy. And I think with the Celtics, really,
what they did this championship roster, this is all the
product of them breaking down the previous championship era. You know,
core early with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierson, Ray Allen

(01:02:07):
and it was about developing Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.
What the Lakers did, They already put those chips in,
you know, after Kobe Bryant's Farewell's War with getting some
of these good draft picks developing players, and they traded
those picks to get Lebron and then to get Anthony Davis.

(01:02:28):
So there's not a right or wrong way to do it.
I mean, when you're looking at the Lakers, they won
a title in twenty twenty, which I don't think they
would have won if they just kept the young role players.
But in the Celtics case, that was the best dice
for them to throw because their situation was completely different.

(01:02:49):
But I do understand your broader point that right now,
what we're seeing with the Celtics, it was a beneficiary
of having good chemistry and continuity and roster up, and
given what's going on in the NBA these last few years,
that is the calling card to play. It's just with
the Lakers, I don't think that they're comfortable, from both

(01:03:10):
a business and a basketball standpoint, to just say let's
blow it up and trade Lebron, because that could just
create more problems and solve them and just delay, you know,
the inevitable of rebuilding. And right now they could be rebuilding.
But at least, you know, they're keeping people in the
seats with Lebron, and they could be at least somewhat competitive.

(01:03:31):
But you know, it's a lot of challenges to try
to navigate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
That mark great stuff. As I say every week, I'm
already looking forward to next Saturday, because Wednesday we've got
the draft, and of course a week from today or
yesterday or today, depending on your perspective, Lebron will have
decided whether he's going to opt out become a free agent.

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
He's coming back, he's not going well, no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
No, no, no, yeah, plea please please, I know, but it's
going to be a cya deal. He ops out, he
gets you three year deal. We don't how the games played. Yeah,
I'm not going anywhere. I don't want I don't want
to imply that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:03):
Even leaves and we'll talk about next week.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
He's not. Dude, you got a better chance of led
Zeppelin re recording the Gilgan's Allen theme song and selling
a million copies in Lebron leave in La but but
but he's going to manage his career and June twenty
ninth is the deadline, and as a formality, he'll opt out,
which will open the door for another three year deal.

(01:04:26):
That's that's my take.

Speaker 7 (01:04:27):
Another Bernie Frida of prediction coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
All right, my friend, great to have you. Thanks for
sticking on for two seconds tonight. We can probably go
on three, but but we need to get you your
beauty rest of my man. Thank you, sir as Mark
Mondina Medina magic. As you can see, he's very much
got his finger on the pulse, and these are fun
times in the NBA. I believe lots of lots of
great storylines coming up. Well, the NBA is not the
only lead. This's got storylines. The NFL's got him too.

(01:04:54):
And hey, we're a couple of weeks from July. Not
even that time to dive into some NFL stuff. There's
been plenty of news in the offseason, not the least
of which involved the Kansas City Chiefs. How the NFL
plans to use them this year on TV as they
march for the first ever as a potential first ever
three pat team, as well as you could make a

(01:05:16):
case that the Chiefs offseason was by far, by far
the roughest in the NFL. But first to go back
to our guy, the chef with the latest.

Speaker 8 (01:05:26):
Yes, Bernie, a full slate of Major League Baseball action.
On Saturday, we saw Showyo Tani hit his twenty third
home run of the season that traveled and estimated four
hundred and fifty nine feet as helps the Daughters beat
the Angels seven to Tyler Glassenow seven innings, went on run,
ten strikeouts on just seventy four pitches in the win,
as La splitting the short two game Freeway series with

(01:05:50):
the Angels. After losing an extra innings on a Friday,
Yankees beat the Braves eight to three behind Aaron Judges
twenty eighth home run of the season. Rockies and Nationals,
it's Colorado getting this win off a pitchclock violation.

Speaker 9 (01:06:04):
Three balls, two strikes, tied at seven, the pitch.

Speaker 10 (01:06:09):
Time cold time violation on pitchclock violation on Finnegan, and
that's the game.

Speaker 9 (01:06:19):
The Rockies on the pitcher, Finnegan taking too much time.
That becomes ball four and for the first time in
the new rules, the Rockies have a walk off on
a pitch violation.

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
Rockies Radio Network there with the cal Kyle Finnegan taking
too long to throw the pitch, so he was called
for the pitchclock violation, making it ball four with the
bases loaded. That was what got the winning run in
as it is, the Rockies winning it eight to seven.
The Padres have won four straight games, including a six
to four win against the Milwaukee Brewers on Saturday. Same

(01:06:57):
for the Astros. They've made it four straight after beating
the Orioles five to one. The Cleveland Guardians, also on
a four game winning streak, a six to three win
against Toronto on a Saturday included the Twins win at
ten two against the Oakland Athletics, who are now a
dreadful twenty nine and fifty on the season. Bailey over
and only eighty nine pitches, tossing a complete game with

(01:07:17):
ten strikeouts. The Phillies beat the Diamondbacks twelve to one,
Cubs over the Mets eight one, White Sox beat the
Tigers five to one. College World Series best of three
as Texas A and M takes the opening game of
that nine to five against top seeded Tennessee, and in
the WNBA, Breonna Stewart thirty three points to help the

(01:07:38):
New York Liberty beat the La Sparks ninety eight to
eighty eight. In golf, it's Tom Kim ahead of the
Travelers Championship by one stroke. Scottie Scheffler tied for second place,
Cam Young shooting a fifty nine. Today he is tied
a four eighth and In soccer, Mexico winning it's Copo
America Opener one ZIL against Jamaica. Venezuela beats Ecuador two
to one, and the United States gets their tournament started

(01:08:01):
against Bolivia on Sunday at six o'clock Eastern and that
can be seen over on Fox. And in the Euro Tournament,
Belgium beats Romania two nail, Portugal shutting out Turkey three
to nail, and the Czech Republic ties Georgia one one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Back to you, Bernie, all right, Jef WM up those
vocal cords. We'll catch you in an hour. The future
always has a way of arriving ahead of schedule. Believe
it or not. We are seventy seven days away from
the National Football League kicking off their two hundred and
seventy two game regular season schedule. You've got the two
time defending Super Bowl Chiefs playing perhaps a very big

(01:08:39):
role among the various networks this year, and I'm here
for it. They'll start out September fifth, that opening season
game on Thursday against the Baltimore Ravens. And you know,
that's kind of been the modus operandi. You begin the
season of the home stadium of the defending Super Bowl
champs and Baltimore will pay a Visit didn't work out

(01:09:00):
so well for them in January. We'll see what happens
in September. But that ain't all folks. The Chiefs are
going to be a very significant presence this year in
many games along the schedule. There's another ten days later,
there'll be a very high profile matchup between the Chiefs
and the Bengals. That'll be the very first late afternoon
game Sunday on CBS, which I've mentioned before that those

(01:09:24):
four pm games on Sunday are among the highest rated
of all matchups. And the Raiders will join the chief
for a Black Friday game the day after Thanksgiving. That
game will be shown on Amazon. Last year that had
great success. They'll have a better result. Last year was
a little disappointing because it was at Jets and Dolphins.
But when they made the schedule last year, they didn't

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know Aaron Rodgers would be hurt Saturday. You know, as
we get into December, the NFL starts to play games
on Saturdays. The Chiefs will play the Texans on December
twenty first, that'll be part of the new NBC Sports schedule.
And then the Chiefs well, actually they won't play the
Steelers on Christmas Day. But the truth of the matter
is the Chiefs are going to have an additional on

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top of that, four primetime appearances across Sunday Night Football
as well as Monday Night Football. And why well, it's
obvious the Chiefs are a you know this is they're
a going concern, man, and not just because of their
success on the field, not just because of that. Obviously,

(01:10:29):
you've still got the Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift saga, which
will continue to roll, right, And I think that as
long as the Chiefs are alive for the three p
that is a story that is going to continue to
have real legs. No, by the way, Fox Sports will

(01:10:49):
have the Super Bowl rematch between the Chiefs and the
forty nine ers on October twentieth. So if you like
the Chiefs, they're all over the network. Well, the Chiefs
have also been all over the news. Why well, you
know why. This offseason was easily the roughest the Chiefs.
They endured an offseason easily the roughest of any team

(01:11:10):
in the National Football League. Will that carry over? I
mean Murphy's long. Yeah. Well, the Chiefs Andy Reid put
on a tuxedo last week and the players all brought
their plus ones and they had this really beautiful ceremony
so they could all get their really cool, way cool,
huge Fred flintstone like championship rings for winning Super Bowl

(01:11:34):
fifty eight. Well, each one of those rings had five
and twenty nine diamonds and thirty eight rubles rubies, excuse me,
almost fifteen carrots at gemstones. This is like the ring
of all Rings, except there was one problem. And that's
only the beginning of the rough part the Chiefs had.
I will share with you the litany of things that
have gone wrong for the Chiefs in the offseason, and

(01:11:57):
it's not pretty, by the way. Shortly after the show tonight,
the podcast will be going up. If you missed any
of tonight' show, be sure to check out the podcast.
Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.
I got Shay Mogan Gard will be putting it up.
Be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,
just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast.

(01:12:17):
You'll see the show posted right after we get off
the air. Coming up, we continue the Chiefs and the
speed bumps they had in the off season. Wow, I'm
Bernie Frattle. We're company live from the La Vegas Fox
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(01:12:38):
coming to live after the tyreract dot Com studios here
in a Las Vegas take you up to three am Pacific,
six am easton. Remember about an hour and thirteen minutes
away from the Dance Sensation sweep of the nation. What
kind of brand new fool you followed by what my name?
It's been quite the off season for the Kansas City Chiefs,

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and that is really a loaded statement. Even last week
when you consider the fact that the Chiefs received their
championship rings that sort of commemorated back to back Super
Bowl championships. Five hundred and twenty nine diamonds, thirty eight rubies,
almost fifteen carrots of gemstones. You want to see this thing.
It is spectacular, But even the ring ceremony had issues.

(01:13:24):
See the interior of the ring, which tells the story
of the Chiefs four postseason victories over the Dolphins, Bills, Ravens,
and forty nine Ers. They list the seeding of those
teams in the playoffs, but unfortunately there's a typo. The
ring said that the Dolphins AFC seed was number seven.
They were actually the number six seed. Is it the

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end of the world. Is it a huge mistake? Not really,
but it's just it's a metaphor for what the Chiefs
off season has been. The theme of the Chiefs offseason
has been one goofy peccadillo after another some serious there
is no two ways about it. And I hope it

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doesn't carry over into the regular season because last year,
what was the big story Aaron Rodgers four plays in
We all got the rug he yanked from under our feet.
This year, whether you like the Chiefs or hate him again,
the opposite of love is not hated. Some difference. People
have to have the same emotion invested to watch the

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game and have that kind of you don't hate or love.
So the Chiefs, who had the best season last year,
had the roughest offseason, and let's hope they get the
ship righted so that when the season starts we actually
have a real conversation heading into the playoffs as to
whether or not the Chiefs can three pete in the
Super Bowl era. It's never been done. And let's start

(01:14:50):
with the fact that the Chiefs lost some talent and
free agency, but part of that's by terrible injuries and
look here's the bottom line game with Rashi Rice. There
was a car crash that allegedly Rashi Rice, who was
a terrific receiver in the playoffs, finally took responsibility for causing.

(01:15:15):
There was a hit and run reaction to the crash.
It was caught on camera, and Rashi Rice is facing
eight charges and two civil lawsuits. And it's still the
unknown outcome of this incident revolving Rashi Rice and another
man at a bar. This man reportedly decided not to
proceed the charges, but the matter might not be up

(01:15:37):
to him at the If law enforcement decides they want
to bring chargers, they still can't. And then you had
two offensive tackles. I can't pronounce this guy's name correctly,
but I'll try it. Chukubuka Godric for marijuana position and oh,
by the way, Janya Morris another offensive tackle, both for
marijuana position. So you got Rashi Rice and two offensive

(01:16:00):
tackles running a follow the law. Then there was the
arrest Isaiah Bugs, a defensive lineman. Get this on two
charges of animal cruelty because apparently he didn't give the
dogs water for a week, or I guess they didn't
feed them either. Then there was another arrest recently, and

(01:16:25):
this is again a very difficult situation. Isaiah Bugs. He's
a defensive tackle. He was arrested I think for domestic violence,
something along those lines, second degree domestic violence. And there's
even a burglary. Are there some context of burglary in there? Now?

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He's you know, I think he's a he's a backup.
He's been with Seen five years and the Chiefs just
signed him in February, so he has more arrests, you know,
than he has is I think he's played with the Chiefs.
But look, it becomes death by a thousand cuts. You
just this is not good. Isaiah Bugs. Two offensive linemen,

(01:17:08):
Wanya Morris and Chiku Bakuba Godrich. Then Rishie Weish Rice
was a key player. They can't even get their rings right, okay.
And then of course people lost their minds over Harrison.
Butker just merely speaking his mind that that created some drama.
He would you know, there was a commencement speech that
he delivered Benedictine College in May. Colin Kaepernick has gone

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on to say, well, as long as there areson Butcker's
on a roster, I'll never watch an NFL game. Yeah,
you'll show them, Colin Wow, bring them to their knees.
I'm not taking sides on this one. When people make statements,
you know, vote your conscience, do whatever you got to
do to get through to day whatever. Crank's your tractor.
But even grodri Getdel waiting and gave an opinion on
the matter. So any way you slice it, the Chiefs

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basically pun intended two, partly due to their kicker. They've
taken one kick to the nuns after another. I mean,
these are some serious charges. Criminal charges issues in bars.
We're hit and run accidents, animal cruelty, domestic violence, burglary.
This is all one team. By the way, bj Thompson

(01:18:16):
had a scary cardiac arrest episode during a special teams meeting,
really man oh Man. And finally, even if Krashi Rice
gets a situation straightened out, it's likely that the NFL
will then investigate and he will face the suspension. He's
got to meet with Roger Goodell eventually, legal determine what

(01:18:38):
they're going to do with Rice since he has apparently
allegedly violated the league's personal conduct policy. And Rashia Rice
was really one of the best stories last year for
the Chiefs because he was only a rookie, but he
really developed into a tremendous player who really contributed and
was I think a key cog in helping the Chiefs
win the Super Bowl. So long short of it is,

(01:19:00):
Andy Reid is not the first time. That is first
barbecue that he's presided over some stuff. But boy's got
his handful this year, and I hope they get it
shortened out because I think the Chiefs marching towards the
third championship will be fun to watch, whether or not
you like him or hate him. Game seven Monday Night,
Stanley Cup Finals, we discussed keep it locked to Bernie
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(01:19:23):
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buying should be. We have a really developing story Monday
night that'll take place in Miami, and depending on how
this goes, real history can be in a couple of ways.
First of all, let me set this up. It goes
back thirty one years to June in nineteen ninety three.

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I was actually in the process of relocating from Orange
County to Michigan, and They're sitting in a Marriott Hotel
and I'm watching the La Kings and the Montreal Canadians.
It's Game two. The Kings had won Game one, it
looked like they were on their way. They're winning Game two,
and the Kings are on their way to winning their
first ever Stanley Cup. Martin McSorley scores a goal and

(01:20:30):
Jacques de Maris, the erstwhile coach of the Red Wings
who'd taken over for the Montreal Canadians, a savvy Vett
noticed that Martin mcsouley's stick was maybe a little too curved,
so it was almost like the George Brett Pinetower game.
They measured the stick and next thing you know, the
goal was just allowed. The dynamic of the series changed completely.

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The Canadians won Game two, they went back to La.
The Canadians I believe won the series in five. What's
the significance of that. That is the last time a
Canadian team has hoisted the Stanley Cup. It has been
thirty one years. No Winnipeg, no Vancouver, no Edmonton, no Toronto,
no Montreal, no Canadian team. That could change Monday night

(01:21:16):
because the Edmonton Oilers have forced and historic Game seven
in the Stanley Cup Final. Not just because they're looking
to become the first Canadian team to win the Stanley
Cups as ninety three, but they've completed the comeback. As
it were. On Friday night, the oil the Oilers beat
the Florida Panthers five to one. What did that do?

(01:21:39):
That even the series at three to three. Remember Florida
won the first three games. Edmonton won the next three games.
So now the series shifts back to the home team,
Florida for the winner take all Game seven on Monday
or again, the Oilers will be just the second team

(01:22:02):
since nineteen ninety three to be a Canadian Stanley Cup champion,
but also this second team in NHL history to rebound
from an three deficit to win the Stanley Cup. It
never happens in the NBA, never happens in Major League Baseball,
though you know, I get it.

Speaker 11 (01:22:23):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Four, the Red Sox came back from a three deficit
to beat the Yankees. But that was in the championship series.
We've seen teams come close. We've seen it in other
NBA playoff, lower level playoffs, but not in the files.
And you haven't seen it in the NHL since nineteen
forty two. Back in nineteen forty two, you're for scoring
at home. I hope you are. The Toronto Maple Leafs
came back to beat the Detroit Red Wings after dropping

(01:22:47):
after falling behind three zip. They did it, they completed
It's been eighty two years. Now. Three years later, those
two teams got into a rematch, and this time Toronto
jumped out to a three to nothing lead. Detroit came
back with three straight wins, but Toronto prevailed. They won
Game seven, two to one. So it almost happened twice

(01:23:09):
in three years. So now the Edmonton Oilers, they find
themselves in a very advantageous position, as it were, to
become the first team since the nineteen forty five Red
Wings to erase a three to zero deficit in the
Stanley Cup Final Monday night. They want to make even
more history. And again I know I'm repeating myself, but

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a win will also make Edmonton the first Canadian team
to win the NHL Championship since the ninety three Canadians.
This offers a lot of hope to the Nation of
Canada and to the all you know, the great organization
that the Edmonton Oilers have been throughout history during the
Wayne Gretzky era was of course, by the way, this

(01:23:53):
final also marks the third straight playoff series where Edmonton
has come back to win after behind. The Oilers were
down three to two facing elimination against Vancouver, and in
Round two they had a two win deficiting against the
Dallas Stars. They flipped the switch. They won three straight
games to advance. Frankly, this is an incredibly stunning show

(01:24:14):
of resilience and it speaks to a real DNA of
a team and a squad and the Edmonton Oilers. That
doesn't really even begin to tell the story. I guarantee
if people have forgotten by now that after twelve games
in the NHL season going back to November, the Oilers

(01:24:34):
were in last place. I believe they might have had
the worst record in the NHL on November tenth, two wins,
nine losses in one tie. Two days later, they fired
their coach and they replaced him with Chris Noblock, who

(01:24:55):
was taking over for their coach, Jay Woodcroft. So this
has happened before. We sat with the Saint Louis Blues
a few years ago. You fire a coach the first
couple weeks of the season, next thing you know, you're
in the Stanley Cup Finals. But you cannot tell this
story at all without talking about the Oilers Captain Connor
McDavid time flies, I said, as I said, you know,

(01:25:19):
the future always has a way of arriving ahead of schedule.
Connor McDavid, he's now in his ninth season in the NHL,
twenty seven years old. He's been a three time League MVP.
He's been a scoring machine throughout these playoffs goals and assists,
and he had back to back four point games which
really sparked Edmonton's comeback. They had an eight to one

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win on home ice in Game four and a five
to three win in South Florida just this last Tuesday.
Before by the end of Game five, andre Or Connor
McDavid's up to thirty four assists and forty two points
just in the playoffs this year. They've only played twenty
three playoff games. I know it's heresy to compare anybody

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to Wayne Gretzky, but if you've watched McDavid play as
a magician on the ice with the things he does,
he now holds the all time record for assists in
a single playoff year after he passed up Wayne Gretzky
and their old record of thirty one in game four.
McDavid is now up to thirty four assists and he's
got a game seven Monday. Conor McDavid is now fourth

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all time in playoff points, behind Gretzky forty seven points
in nineteen eighty five, Mario Lemu forty four ninety one,
Gretzky get forty three points in eighty eight. Well, if
McDavid gets just one point, he'll tie Gretzky in eighty eight.
If he gets three points, he passes Lemieu. And if
he gets well and he could get five points. But
if he got four, he'd tied Gretzky back in nineteen

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eighty five. If you looked at the game Friday night,
here's what's really interesting. The rest of the Edmonton Oilers
picked up and carried the torch leon, who's an absolute
scoring machine. I saw that up close and personal in
the twenty twenty three playoffs against the Las Vegas that
gets the Vegas Golden Knights. Here in Las Vegas, Leon

(01:27:10):
drive Sidle I mean him and Warren Fogel, they got
going and Adam Henrique. You put this group together with
a bunch of guys that you never heard of. Maybe
Zach Hyman gets his sixteenth goal to playoffs, and all
of a sudden, they've made Sergey Blebroski, maybe the greatest
goalie in the ANHL this year, look very human. And

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Rogers play sindeedmaton, including the streets surrounding, absolute pandemonium, absolute bedlam. Finally,
in the third period, Florida tried to make a push
and they controlled the play, but it was not enough.
So here's what's interesting, and this is why Edmonton truly
can do this on Monday night, even despite Connor McDavid

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and the statue's putting up what you're through the roof.
A lot of the reason that Edmonton has at such
playoff success this year because it's not just one guy.
It's been solid team play. Their defense has been through
the roof. Their defense has been absolutely outstanding, and their
penalty kill has also been through the roof. Edmonton has

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frankly been frankly virtually unbeatable these last couple of games,
and it's really shown, you know, I'm kind of gonna
do this on the fly. I do want to bring
in the crew ever so quickly, Shae. Have you followed
this with the Edmonton Oilers? And it's okay if you haven't.
I just want to kind of take the temperature of

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the room because people get upset when you don't talk
hockey and the radio. You can't really talk hockey and
the radio throughout the year if you want to keep
your job, because not enough people care. But we have
a historic game on Monday Night. Have you followed this
at all?

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Shape, Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:28:52):
Yeah, I Actually I'm not a fan of the Edmonton
Oilers at all.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
I'm a Kid Hits fan.

Speaker 12 (01:28:57):
So I was really hoping the Panthers would pull through
in Game six, but that was it was just heartbreaking.
The last couple of games have been heartbreaking for me
because the Kings can never get past the Oilers.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Oh yes, yes, Edie exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:29:13):
So it's it's like, yeah, Eddie Garcia feels just like me,
So it just gets to a point three years, three
years in a row, years in a row, and they're
just such a dirty team too.

Speaker 13 (01:29:24):
It's like, oh, like, it's been so upsetting seeing this
and the fact that they have an opportunity to come
back from a three to zero lead, which is history
in the making.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
I hate it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
I do not like it at all. I am not
happy one bit.

Speaker 12 (01:29:40):
I watch every game just because I cannot believe this
is actually happening. I text my friends. I remember I
was texting my friends like, oh, three to zero, like
this is gonna be easy. At least they didn't win,
and now it's just biting me in the behind. So
I'm not no, I'm I'm not happy one bit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
I appreciate the strong opinion. Uh and and you're not wrong,
I mean in terms of of of just Edmonton and
their style of play. Look, here's the thing. Do you
believe in momentum because right now, all the momentum seems
to be on Edmonton side. Yes, it's a one game affair,
Game seven, it's in Florida, and you think it happened,
but all the momentum seems to be on Edmonton side.

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Does that matter to you?

Speaker 7 (01:30:21):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:30:21):
One hundred percent. Momentum is the biggest thing in the world.
It's you can I played volleyball in high school and
it's a set based game. You can win the first
two sets, but if if you win that last if
you don't win that last set, it's it's game like.
It just completely changes the momentum. Everything changes. But the
thing with this is is the Oilers have all the momentum.

(01:30:42):
Right As a coach, what do you say to your team,
like seriously, like, what do you think was going on
in the locker room?

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Like does he go like, guys, you guys are just
like what?

Speaker 12 (01:30:54):
Like I I genuinely don't know what the Panthers can
do to flip it around?

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Like as a coach, what do you do? As a player,
what do you do?

Speaker 12 (01:31:03):
It's it's so demoralizing and it's just hard and like,
I don't know as a coach, is you're going to
get fired?

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
I doubt it, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Well, here's the thing. You have to go back and
evaluate what did you do when you beat Tampa Bay
and five? What did you do when you beat the
Boston Bruins and six? And what did you do when
you beat the Rangers in six as well. They were
the President's Trophy team, so they earned their way there.
I've found and all my ears are covering the Red
Wings a lot of times, Shay. Special teams can decide

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what's going on. And this is where Ebington might have
an edge. They've had sixty eight power plays they've had
to defend. They've only given up four goals and sixty
eight power plays. That's a ninety five percent success rate.
That's the best in twenty five years. So that creates
a lot of momentum when you're killing penalties like that.
So I think it's special teams. And I also think

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Sergei Barbrovski's got to be that proverbial goalie. This stands
on his head. That's all Dominic Kashik do with Detroit
in two thousand and two, you know, so Mike Vernon
do it in nineteen ninety eight. We've seen throughout the years.
You saw probably Jonathan Quick in La. Were you in
La ten years ago when the Kings were winning the
Stanley Cup.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
I was in La. Yes, that was it, And.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
So I'm sure you remember Jonathan Quick and what he course,
of course he's allegedly I mean, I'm just kind of
grabbing in straws here. But the truth of the matter
is this is, you know, Florida had a Game seven
in the twenty twenty three playoffs last year. I remember
I was in Birmingham, Alabama, and they were down three
to one against the Boston Bruins and they got that
overtime goal and then with that seconds to go, or

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they got a goal with seconds to go to end
overtime and then knock Boston off. So they've got it
in their DNA. The question is can they call upon it?

Speaker 7 (01:32:45):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:32:45):
I completely agree. And the one thing that's not making
me super upset is is it's not that the Panthers
are just like messing up completely. It's the Oilers are
just out playing them. As you said with the statistics.
It's the Oilers are just doing better in the last
couple of games. And that that's the one thing that
I'm like, all right, this is fine. Like the Panthers
aren't just losing because they're messing up, or they're just

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not taking the right shots, or just small things like
that they're messing up with substitutions. It's the fact that
the Oilers are just playing better than them. It's it's
they are out of nowhere too. It's something they were.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Down three sip exactly. I don't know where they were
down three zip legitimately down three zip.

Speaker 12 (01:33:21):
You know what's the craziest thing about their their story
though They fired their coach.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Yeah really early, Yeah, talked about that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Yeah, that's that's I cannot believe.

Speaker 12 (01:33:30):
And the fact that he's able to turn around that
quickly and then get back even like get his players still, Hey,
we're down three to zero, it does not matter. We're
staying in it. I'm here to keep it going. I
think that is the only thing I like about the
Oilers is the fact that it's they have that going.
But other than that is a Kings fan, I hate

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the Oilers.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Yeah, this is this is highly improbable. I talked about
this a minute ago. They were two nine and one,
and on November tenth, they fired their coach and they
replaced him with this Chris Knoblock, not to be confused
with Chuck Knoblock. And the truth of the matter is
is that we've seen this before. You remember what five
years ago when the Saint Louis Blues wanted to Craig Berrubi,

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didn't they fire their coach after a couple weeks into
the season. But this squad's got a certain DNA. Having
said all that, you throw everything out Monday Night, it's
a game seven, winner, take all, and anything can happen.
While I do agree Edmonton's got all the momentum and
they look to be the better team, and they've simply
outplayed Florida in the last three games, it does come

(01:34:36):
down to a game seven coming back. I want to
bring in the chef, get his thoughts on this, Get
Mark Ramsey's thoughts too, because look, the NHL is really
sort of morphed into this regional league. It just does
not have the national buzz that it should and could
and would. People don't know the teams, they don't know
the players, they don't understand the significance in the history.

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He's one of those games. It translates somewhat on TV,
but nothing like being aaron person. So for all of
those reasons, you're rarely talk hockey, and I will always
talk to the Stanley Cup Finals, particularly if there's a
story angle and we have two of them Monday night.
Should Edmonton prevail, be the first time in thirty one
years that a team from Canada has won it, and

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should Edmonton prevail, would be the first time since nineteen
forty two that a team has come back from a
three zip deficit. They're going to have to do it
on Florida's Oh Mice. We'll get the chef at marks
thoughts coming up on that as well. I'm Bernie Fraddle.
We're comedy live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio
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on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio Company live
from the Tirack dot com studios here in Las Vegas.
Coming up after the Chef's performance bottom of the hour,
We're going to dive into the significance of the game
played Thursday night at Rickwood Field and give you some
historical perspective. But let's continue with the crew. Chef. You know,

(01:36:02):
we rarely talk hockey, but when you have a Game
seven in the Stanley Cup Finals and you have a
situation that involves two historical perspectives, do you have thoughts
on this game in general?

Speaker 8 (01:36:15):
Yeah, I'm definitely intrigued because I think it was in
nineteen forty six the last time a Stanley Cup finals
saw a team come from behind three nothing a.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
Treat forty two, okay, Ronnie over Detroit, Yeah, even longer
ago than that.

Speaker 8 (01:36:28):
So for the historical significance of it, I am definitely interested.
Although as a Kings fan, I have no love for
the Edmonton Oilers. I've just hated the way they've played
against the King, not only just beating him, but just
the way that they're antics on the ice, So just
something I've never liked from them. So I've been hoping
they would lose throughout these playoffs. But man, it would

(01:36:50):
be nice to see history, though, isn't it. So I
guess that that objective fan part of wanting to see
something that just hasn't happened in my lifetime and in
the lifetimes of most of the people I know. So
I do. I do want to see history be made,
but man, I just wish it wasn't the Edmonton Oilers,
I guess. I guess they're mad at us for stealing
Gretzky from them all those years ago, so they had

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to beat us in the playoffs three straight times. But yeah,
I'm definitely gonna be watching Monday Night as it's been
a great series so far. So it's been a good
hockey and it's been a very competitive, especially after the
Oilers went down three to nothing. They've just been playing well.
So yeah, I'll be watching.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Yeah, I will too, and of course good recall Gretzky
came to the Kings in eighty eight, Bruce Rindall one
of the big signings, and I it was kind of
shocked when Edmonton let him go, basically, and he played
several more years and it was part of that King's
team in ninety three that lost to Montreal. So you'd
see history in two veins here in the sense of

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not only team coming back from down three zip hadn't
happened since nineteen forty two, but also first team since
nineteen ninety three to from Canada to win the Stanley Cup.
Mark Ramsey, Year of Hockey Official, And I'm sure you've
got some thoughts on this.

Speaker 11 (01:38:09):
I'm a big fan of hockey because we all agree
that hockey is, you know, offense, defense, and like a second,
you could be going down the ice, you know, on offense,
and then you quickly have to change over the defense
because you lose the puck. So when it comes to this,
I'm liking it because yes I am a Hawks fan,

(01:38:30):
but just the overall coming back you know, three you know,
three down. I just think about when Dave Roberts was
on Boston and they can't I know, it's baseball and
they were down, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:38:43):
To Dston Yankees.

Speaker 11 (01:38:44):
Thing of coming back from something which was a momentous
occasion for you know, the whole Boston thing. So just
watching that aspect of having that you know, surrounded of
being able to come back, and speaking from a coach.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
Perspective, which I'm not. You know, Shay Is he coached volleyball.

Speaker 11 (01:39:03):
When a coach has to go in and tell the team, look,
everything is back to zero. Right now. It's it's game seven,
so everything is zero zero. Try to clear your mind
and just think if we just win this game, just
worry about this game. Everything is back to zero. Just
calm yourself and win this game. But the whole thing

(01:39:26):
about you know, the Edmonton and the Panthers, it's just
you know, it's it's going to be great. The excitement
is great. Hopefully there's not too many fights, but just
the energy and just you know, watching each team have
it to fight it out for that last game.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
It's very exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Of course, if you're either Florida Panthers, you're thinking, what
do you got to do to win a championship? I
thought they were I really thought they would beat the
Golden Knights last year, but they didn't, and now they
have a chance again this year.

Speaker 11 (01:39:57):
Because every every team or every fan worries about their
team and they really don't care about the other team.
It's like, so what, I don't care that you might
not win because tons of people don't care about the
Cleveland Browns ever winning anything, or they don't care about
the San Diego Charges every winning anything because of the

(01:40:18):
opposite team wants their team to win. So I don't
care about you. And when it comes to sports and
pulling for your team.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
That's that's true. All right, I'm gonna make my prediction.
Let's go around the room. Who gets it done Monday night?
Shay Florida or Edmonton.

Speaker 7 (01:40:35):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
I can't even say it, Bernie, I can't even say it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Okay, no problem, I hear you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
I can't even say. It hurts me so much.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
I'll tell you what. Before we get to the chef
and we get to Mark, I think Florida's gonna win.
I think too good to be beaten four times in
a row. They're at home, Sir Gey Brabowski is due
for one big game, and I feel like Edmon, you
know what happened, Edmonton got loose when the pressure is off.

(01:41:07):
They had that eight goal game and then from there,
all of a sudden, they've carried the play. But Florida's home.
You got ser Gebarovsky, I do, I'm repeating myself. I
think Paul Maurice gets his team ready and they score
first and Florida gets it done. We'll see chef. Who
wins Monday night, Florida Edmonton.

Speaker 8 (01:41:26):
I'd say Edmonton just because I think they have less
pressure on them. Florida they have all. They have, all
the all the anxiety, all the pressure going into that
game because they don't want to be on the wrong
end of history. So I definitely see Edmonton being the
loose team that they have been since they were down
three nothing. That's what I predict happening.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Entirely possible, entirely possible. All right, Mark, you got the
last word? Who wins at Edmonton?

Speaker 11 (01:41:52):
Or Let's see the Panthers are at home, so they
have home cooking, they've had their home bed and the
pressure is on the Panthers because they've lost so many
and their their mentality that they might be thinking that,
you know, it's gone bad this far. I think Edmonton's

(01:42:15):
gonna come across and win.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
All right, we shall see. It will be decided on
the ice on Monday night, a very momentous occasion. Thursday night,
we must break down its significance. We must certainly talk
about why this was such an important game and drop
some historical perspective. But first let's go to our guy
chef for his performance.

Speaker 14 (01:42:41):
Well, cafeteria wants to sing a song about this thrilling
struggle of humanity.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
Remember, what do you have to say about it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
There is another performance by the chef.

Speaker 8 (01:43:06):
I love performing for all our listeners. It brings joy
to me every single Saturday night getting to do that.
He Major League Baseball we had plenty of games on Saturday.
As Soyo Tani launching one deep four and fifty nineteen,
I'm not sure if they cleared that right field pavilion
or not. I saw people kind of jumping up trying
to get it, but I didn't see where it landed.

(01:43:27):
It seemed like to carry it on forever. But Showy
hasn't come down yet. I don't think so. And man,
he continues to play well, looking like the National League
MVP as he has twenty three home runs now as
the Dodgers beat the Angels seven to two. Tyler Glass
now looking like everything the Dodgers hoped for as he
won seven innings won and run allowed, ten strikeouts seventy
four pitches thrown. The Yankees beat the Braves eight to three.

(01:43:51):
Aaron Judge with his twenty eighth home run of the season.
Rockies and Nationals Kyle Ferguson with the bases loaded in
the bottom of the ninth having a pitchclock violation. Yeah,
he took too long to throw it, so the Rockies
up that bat with a three ball count, getting ball
four and that forced the winning run in and Colorado

(01:44:12):
wins it eight to seven. The Padres on a four
game winning streak they beat the Brewers six to four.
The Astros also on a four game winning streak as
they take down the Baltimore Oils five to one. The
Guardians also have made it four straight wins with their
six to three victory against the Toronto Blue Jays twins
over the A's ten to two, and the Philadelphia Phillies

(01:44:33):
beat the Arizona Diamondbacks twelve to one, Cubs over the
Mets eight one, and the White Sox beat the Tigers
a five to one. College World Series first game goes
to Texas A and M as they take down top
seeded Tennessee nine to five. WNBA Breonna Stewart with thirty
three points, the New York Liberty over the Los Angeles
Sparks ninety eight eighty eight. New York now fourteen and
three on the season. Golf, it's Tom Kim in front

(01:44:56):
of the Travelers Championship by one stroke. Scottie Scheffler tied
for second place, Cam Young shooting a fifty nine, he
is tied for eighth. And in soccer, Mexico winning their
Copa America opener one nil against Jamaica. Venezuela beats Ecuador
two to one, and as for the United States, their
first game of that tournament will take place Saturday or

(01:45:17):
excuse me Sunday evening at six o'clock Eastern and that
can be seen over on Fox and asked for the
ure tournament on Saudi It's Belgium over Romania two nail
Portugal blanking Turkey, three nail in the Czech Republic tying
Georgia one one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Thank you, Bernie, all right, Jef. So there was a
monumental game played Thursday night at Rickwood Field in Birmingham, Alabama,
and in April twenty twenty three, on my way to Tuscaloosa,
I made a point to drive by that field in Birmingham.
Rickwood Field a certainly a legendary stadium that was built

(01:45:55):
in nineteen ten before I before I dive into what
I want to talk about here, did you watch the game?
Do we able to see the game Thursday night? Chef?
Are you there? Kevin?

Speaker 8 (01:46:10):
I do not see it. I did not see it,
but I'd see the highlights of it. Okay, So you
followed it very much, Shaye?

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
How about you?

Speaker 12 (01:46:17):
I did watch it. It was terrific. I loved what
they did with the broadcast. I think it was really cool.
When it went to black and white, it was perfect. Honestly,
there wasn't a lot of I thought there would be
moments where I was like, oh, what are they doing?

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
But there really wasn't.

Speaker 12 (01:46:31):
There wasn't a single moment where I was like not
having a smile on my face.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
It just it seemed very cool.

Speaker 12 (01:46:37):
But at the same time, it brings you back to
a moment in our history that was really just so
different and growing up in Los Angeles, like I'm not
really accustomed or like at all, Like I've never really
grown up around that, just because it's a melting pot
around me, especially because I'm only twenty four years old.
So it was definitely crazy to hear some of the things.

(01:46:58):
And I'm sure you'll get into that more.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Yes, obviously. And by the way, I'll just say this
now at the end of the show before we sign off,
with about five minutes to go, everybody heard Reggie Jackson's
commentary before the game. Very raw, very candid, very honest,
very truthful, and it underscores the importance of why this

(01:47:24):
event was so significant and what these men had to
endure before nineteen forty seven before having an opportunity and
even afterward. I'm going to tell you a story that
Hank Aaron told me in nineteen ninety one at the
twelfth Annual Sports Collector's National Sports Collector's Convention at Anaheim.

(01:47:45):
I was part of the executive committee and handled the
green room, and Hank was just an elegant man. But
you want to hear an indignity, don't miss this story.
It's coming up a little over an hour. I'll close
the show with it. After hearing Reggie Jackson's story. This
will sort of put things in perspective as well as
to what they endured. So, Shay, you saw the game,

(01:48:08):
good comments. Mark, what about you? Did you get a
chance to see it?

Speaker 11 (01:48:12):
I did not see the game, but my parents were
born in Birmingham, Alabama, so I've heard tons of stories
about rick Wood and playing baseball there and the various
things that went on, So I know some of the
history because of my dad and my parents.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
Yeah, I've fortunately, you know, I've never got to see
a game there, obviously, but I remember the first time
I went to Tiger Stadium in Detroit. I looked at
the batter's box and you know, I'm literally thirty feet away,
and wow, Ty Cobbs stood in that box. That's the significance.
First time I went to Yankee Stadium. You know, Wow,
Babe Ruth stood in that box, Sam with Wrigley. So

(01:48:52):
if you went to rick would you see yourself? Wow,
Josh Gibson stood in that box. Satchel Page stood on
that mound, Jackie Robinson stood in that box, and not
just in Babe Ruth. All kinds of players, all right.
This was a significant, significant event. It paid tribute to

(01:49:12):
the Negro Leagues, the importance of the Negro League's importance
to baseball's history, their growth ending segregation in Major League Baseball.
And it even got started a couple of days before
when Willie Mays was he was all set to be
honored individually on Thursday night. And Willie Mays is also
from Alabama. And Willie Mays also played a full season
at Rickwood Field with the Black Bearons when he was

(01:49:34):
only seventeen years old before he jumped to the Major
leagues and spent his career with the Giants. And right
before the game, forty eight hours before the game, he
usued a statement said quote, I wish I could come
out to Rickwood Field this week to be with you
all and enjoy that field with my friends. Rickwood's been
part of my life all my life, since I was
a kid. It was just around the corner from there

(01:49:55):
where I went to church, went to high school, et cetera.
Et cetera. The first big thing I ever put in
my mind was to play at rickwood Field. It wasn't
a dream, it was something I was going to do.
And he went out and on. It was everything he
ever wanted. And so Willie Mays was unable to make
the trip and he ended up passing before the game,
and there was a pregame ceremony that paid tribute to

(01:50:17):
Willie Mays. But beyond the game, beyond the history and
why the legacy is so important, is Rickwood Field itself.
It's a special place. Yes, it opened in nineteen ten,
and I don't think there's any stadium honestly ever been
built that holes as much influence and as much perspective

(01:50:38):
in baseball history as Rickwood Field because it was the
home not only the Birmingham Barons, but the Birmingham Black
Bearons of the Negro Leagues. They played on the same field,
and they played there for thirty six years, and even
when the Negro Leagues disbanded nineteen forty eight after Major
League Baseball integrated black players, rickwood Field was basically a
big time fixture in Birmingham and it's a part of

(01:51:01):
the it's officially registered it's part of the National Registry
of Historic Places. And you heard me mention a minute ago,
not just Willie Mays, but Jackie Robertson, Satchel Paige, Josh Gipson,
Ernie Banks, Hank Aaron Well, they all played on that field.
Those are some of the heaviest hitters, not just certainly
from the eager leagues, but also from Major League Baseball.

(01:51:24):
And I think again, Willie Mays, it could be argued,
is he the greatest player ever? Not sure, Maybe he's
certainly in the conversation, but when you look at what
Willy Mays did in his career, and you know, I
don't think anybody combined power, speed and defense the way
he did. Now Babyyuth pitched, but he wasn't a defender

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defensive player. Willie Mays also lost two years in the military,
and he played in Candlestick Park, which was a terrible
hitters park. Terrible who's freezing up there? The wind was
always swirling and blowing around, terrible hitters. I remember in
the eighty four All Star Game, Reggie Jackson was in
right field. Look gle over Bob Brenley, a catcher for
the Giants in the bullpen he says, I really admire you, Bob.

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He goes. Why, he says, because you got to play
in this mofo every night. Terrible Maz hit six hundred
and sixty home runs. I think it could be argued that, certainly,
if Mays hadn't had to play in Candlestick Park, he'd
hit well over seven hundred home runs, And if he
hadn't missed two years to the military, he might have
hit eight home runs. Finally, the greatest catch of all
time in Major League Baseball is widely considered to be

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one that took place seventy years ago, Game one of
the nineteen fifty four World Series Cleveland and the New
York Giants. It was in the eighth inning of Game one.
Vic Wurtz comes to bat, hits a ball about four
und and sixty feet. The game was tied two to two,
and May's went back, back, back, back back, and on
a dead sprint, hauled in the ball over his shoulder

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like a wide receiver. They was They're estimating that the
ball was fourner and sixty feet from home plate, and
it is an out, And you watch Mays chase that
ball down and catch it and then turn and swirl
and throw the ball back into the infield and basically
one fell swoop. That's a highlight that people have seen

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over and over and over again, and you never you
never get tired of it, never get tired of it.
So Rickwood Field is isy is a venue of which
I can tell you just driving by it. Really I
felt it. There was a tangible, visceral feel coming up.

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I want to give I want to give one more
homage to Willie Mays because it wasn't just the catch.
There were so many things he did above and beyond
just the catch that transcended baseball during his tenure in
Major League Baseball from nineteen fifty one to nineteen seventy three.
It's almost indescribable, almost indescribable, and the numbers back it up.

(01:54:01):
I've got plenty of receipts. You're gonna want to hear this.
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(01:54:22):
top of the hour in just ten minutes to dance
Sensation sweep in the nation. What kind of brand new
fool you followed by? What my name? All right? So
there was a lot of discussion this week. Is Willie
Mays the god for me? I'll just say this, It
always has been and always will be. Babe Ruth. Here's

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a guy who had one hundred career victories on the mound.
They said he was a good enough picture that if
you never hit a single home run, he would have
been good enough to be in a Hall of Fame.
But you saw what he did, seven hundred and fourteen
home runs, hit sixty home runs in nineteen twent twenty seven.
That was at a time when entire teams weren't hitting sixty.
You know. One year, I think Ruth led the league

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in horruns with twenty seven. Some teams had like thirteen.
And Ruth did other crazy things too. I think he
stole home like eighteen times. So look, let's it's like
arguing about your favorite noodle in to play the spaghetti.
And of course I think Bill Russell, the Great Bill
Russell once said it best, don't compare eras, don't compare ghosts.
But let's do this. Let's at least acknowledge that it's

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reasonable that Willie Mays is very much in this conversation.
The numbers do not lie. This is a guy who,
in addition to making that great catch that you'll see
in highlight reels for the next fifty years, did crazy things,
you know, offensively. There were various points in his career

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that he led the Major leagues in batting average, on
base percentage, slugging percentage, stolen bases. He won a dozen
Golden Gloves. And by the way, people might ask, well,
wait a minute, why did he only win twelve? Because
they didn't start passing him out till nineteen fifty seven.

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That was Willie May's seventh year in the major leagues.
That's why he didn't start winning gold gloves. Okay, By
the way, he won it twelve seasons in a row.
After it was implemented, Mays hit six hundred and sixty
home runs, which was third all time. When he retired,
and same as Ted Williams, he left to fight World

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War Two, and that obviously took cut into his production.
Mays also had to wait for baseball to integrate. He
spent nineteen forty eight with the Black Barons, one year
after Jackie Robinson broke the Major League's color barrier, and
then he missed two full seasons in the military to
serve in the Korean War. When Mace got to Candlestick

(01:56:51):
part which is the prime of his career, which would
be brutal for a power hitter because if anybody listening knows,
it was a terrible place for offense. He hit fifty
two home runs there. He had a league leading on
base percentage of three ninety eight. He had one hundred
and eighty. I'll tell you it rather than just give
number after number. It's ridiculous to understand when you consider

(01:57:13):
what a phenomenal defensive player he was and a great
base runner he was. You could spend all day on
a calculator trying to figure out how many home runs
Mays might have hit if not for those factors. Korean
warr delayed getting into the you know, the color barreer,
and of course let's not forget you know he played

(01:57:33):
in Candlestick Park. I think six hundred and sixty home runs.
You know he would have hit seven hundred. I don't
know anybody that doesn't think that. Okay, so seven hundred
home runs maybe the catch the gold gloves or career
that stretch from the Negro leagues to divisional play, played
in the polo grounds, played in stadiums with AstroTurf, he
was there. Mays will always get props. It was interesting

(01:57:57):
that he would pass the day before they played the
game on in Rickwood Field. But we'll never know what
May's exit velocity was or any of that kind of stuff.
But it didn't matter because he made things look extraordinary
when he played. You didn't need to stop watch to
know that. Coming up brand new fool of what my name?
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(01:58:19):
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we've come to that juncture on the show every Saturday night,
Sunday morning, two am Pacific, Fabiam Eastern. You know, we
pay attention here. As Yogi Berra once said, you can
observe a lot by watching, and we do. From Seed
to Oily Sea and around the globe. Well, we come
to realize that people do things. They do things that
cause you to scratch your head, to do things that
cause you to raise your eyebrow. And obviously sometimes these

(01:59:07):
things are you know, not serious. They're innocuous, they're crazy, silly, stupid.
Other times they're far more serious, nefarious, and they can
even land you in jail. But anyway you slice it,
anyway you observe it. Anyway you describe these events that
people engage in, will they always leave us scratching our
head and asking ourselves what kind of brand new fool

(01:59:30):
of you?

Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
So, what kind of brand new fool are you?

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
This one has a lot of layers, so we will
lay it out like a subway sandwich. Yes, we take
you to Las Crusis, New Mexico, and it actually involves
a subway store. Imagine that a subway store was actually
robbed a subway sandwich store. Hmmm, Well, let's break this down. Apparently,

(02:00:06):
a couple of folks came in wearing masks. One was
a woman, entered the store about seven o'clock at night,
jumped the counter, started diverbly, and physically threatened employers. The
woman also ordered one of the employees to get rid
of the customer at the drive through window. So while
the suspects both took the employees to the back of

(02:00:27):
the store, one other customer escaped by running to her vehicle,
and they called the police. At that point, things started
to get weird because one of the employees said, wait
a minute, we think we recognized the voice of one
of the intruders who came to the store with masks.
We think that we think that's the voice of Lorena,

(02:00:49):
one of our coworkers. Well, when the police arrived and
the investigated the robbery, well, an officer was flagged down
by someone who saw a white car parks especially in
the suspiciously in the parking lot. And when officers located
and stepped in well, they found perhaps this Lorena and
her companion in the car leaving Well. Lorena admitted that

(02:01:14):
she told police she was involved in the robbery. Why
would she rob a store that she worked at, a
subway store that she worked at. What would be the
reason you would possibly do that? Her reason, she wanted
to teach your fellow employees a lesson that things could
happen if you weren't careful.

Speaker 8 (02:01:36):
You could not be serious.

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
Oh yeah, that's why we call this what kind of
brandon fool you? Interestingly enough, she was booked into the
account or some county detention center on one count of
robbery and they're being held without bond. Pretty serious lesson.
I wonder who really learned the lesson? I knew we
had a weird one here when someone's robbing the subway,
just saying, I don't know, how's your foot long? On

(02:02:02):
that note, Lorena of Las Cruces, New Mexico, what kind
of brand new fool you? All right, chef, you're up next?

Speaker 8 (02:02:12):
All right? So we go back to our favorite state
for this, Florida fort.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
Months to be exact, never fails.

Speaker 8 (02:02:20):
A woman was arrested after reportedly calling nine one once
to report that she was stealing a car from a
dealership so that she could quote do it legally. According
to authorities, deputies are saying that Christy Turmann, who's thirty
seven years old, called the Lee County Sheriff's Office to
report the crime, and she apparently said, because I'm trying

(02:02:41):
to steal a car that's not legally mine, I'm making
a report. I'm reporting this, as he said to dispatch.
So Deputy sa Terman told him she was training in
a game of black Ops to steal a car, but
called nine one one to apparently make the crime legal.
So she was arrested and is facing trespassing charges. According
to the Sheriff's office. He's not being charged of trying

(02:03:02):
to steal the car apparently, so maybe maybe there's some
method to that madness, but nonetheless, she is facing criminal
charges for that brain dead moment that she had calling
the police to report her own crimes. So Christy Turman,
thirty seven years old, Fort Myers, Florida, what kind of
brand New fool?

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
Are you very representative of the Brand New Fool franchise?
As we continue on, Shay, you're a veteran at this game.
What do you got for us today?

Speaker 12 (02:03:30):
So we're going to Manhattan, New York. But wait for it, guys,
don't worry. A Florida man by the name of Sina
Haliver faces multiple charges after being caught on camera throwing
furniture off a twentieth floor terence off a midtown Manhattan
high rise building. The incident occurred last week Friday, causing

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alarm and potential danger to pedestrians below as furniture and
planks of wood rained from the sky. So the NYPD
responded to reports of a man hurling tables, benches, and
chairs from the building onto the busy street and sidewalk.
Officers quickly apprhanded Oliver of West Park, Florida, who was

(02:04:12):
later charged with burglary, reckless engagement, criminal mischief, and criminal trespassing.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
Videos have been circulating around social media.

Speaker 12 (02:04:20):
If you guys do want to go see that, you
can just go on Twitter X and just look up
Florida man throwing stuff off of the New York building and.

Speaker 2 (02:04:26):
I'm sure it will well check that out.

Speaker 12 (02:04:29):
But but yeah, this just leads me to believe that
Florida has definitely got some things to figure out.

Speaker 1 (02:04:35):
But Jean Oliver, what kind of fool are you?

Speaker 2 (02:04:38):
They seem to Florida seem to have coreded the market
on our They on our brand new fool.

Speaker 12 (02:04:43):
They've given me too much, you know, it's I'm very
thankful for them.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
Incredible if we go from Las Cruces, New Mexico, to
to Florida and then to Manhattan, but with a Florida twist,
and that of course concludes another rising edition of what
kind of brand new fool are You, which allows us
no out of segue into our second favorite bit that
we lovely referred to as what my name? And here

(02:05:08):
we go? All right? This past week, the Boston Celtics
won the NBA Championship, hadn't done so since nineteen since
two thousand and eight. The last time the Boston Celtics
won a championship, I was their head coach, Shaye moganngar
what my name?

Speaker 12 (02:05:26):
So that was two thousand and eight, so that would
have to be.

Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
What was his name?

Speaker 12 (02:05:34):
Because I know that was the team with Paul Pierce,
Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. Oh my god, who's their coach?
I hate this? Oh man, that's a brain part.

Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
If I have a rod.

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
One, you were circling right around it though you had
half the roster. Last time the Boston Celtics won an
NBA championship was two thousand and eight. I was the
head coach Mark Ramsey what my name?

Speaker 8 (02:05:54):
I thought it was Doc Rivers.

Speaker 2 (02:05:55):
It is, in fact Doc Rivers on Doc Rivers.

Speaker 8 (02:06:00):
China, and he's been living off that championship ever since.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
All Right, it's all my fault. It's all my fault.

Speaker 2 (02:06:07):
Yeah, all right. Willie Mays, God rest his soul. Appeared
in twenty four Major League Baseball All Star Games, but
I'm still the all time leader. I appeared in twenty five.
USh Kevin Wyatt, what my name?

Speaker 15 (02:06:25):
Twenty five All Star Games? Yep, Pete Rose, not Pete Rose.
Good guest, but not Pete Rose. Willie May has had
twenty four All Star Games. I'm still the all time
leader at twenty five. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 11 (02:06:40):
Did he play short stuff for the Baltimore Orioles.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
You're thinking about cal Ripkin, Yes, Cal Ripkan did, but
he's not, in fact the answer to our trivia question.
Willie May's played in twenty four Major League Baseball All
Star Games. I lead everybody with twenty five Major League
Baseball All Star Games. Shave Ogengart, what my name?

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
I lucked out here, Bertie.

Speaker 12 (02:07:05):
I was just looking him up and I happened to
see this, Hank Aaron.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
It is, in fact Hank Aaron Amer and Hank Aaron
Amber and Hank Aron Legend. All right, after Babe Ruth
did it, I became the second person in Major League
baseball history to hit six on her home runs. Mark Ramsey,
what my name?

Speaker 1 (02:07:27):
Say the question again?

Speaker 2 (02:07:28):
After Babe Ruth did it, I became the second Major
League baseball person in history to achieve six hundred career
home runs. What my name?

Speaker 8 (02:07:39):
Willie Mays?

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
It is Willie Mays. Moving right along.

Speaker 1 (02:07:46):
We're making this quick.

Speaker 2 (02:07:48):
When it comes to Stanley Cup playoffs, I still hold
the record for most points in a single postseason. Kevin
Wyre What my name? I'm gonna go with Wayne grant Sky.
It is Wayne Revski. Guys are cranking right along here.

Speaker 1 (02:08:03):
We're making this easy.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
All right, We're gonna We're going to flip to current times.
Now we are talking about the twenty twenty four Major
League baseball season. I'm the first Major League baseball player
this season to reach one hundred hits. Mark Ramsey, what
my name?

Speaker 8 (02:08:23):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (02:08:24):
Okay, no problem. I'm the first Major League baseball player
in twenty twenty four to reach one hundred hits. Shave Opengar, what.

Speaker 1 (02:08:31):
My name, one hundred total hits.

Speaker 2 (02:08:34):
Yeah, this season, first one to get to one hundred hits?

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
Is it Gunner?

Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
Not Gunner? I'm the first major League baseball player to
reach a hundred hits this season? Kevin Wire at the chef?
What my name?

Speaker 8 (02:08:45):
Man? This is a tough one. Shoey O'tani not Chotani.

Speaker 2 (02:08:50):
But I give you guys a clue. He is on
a California team, one of the Dodgers rivals. Anybody, all right,
it's Lewis Luis Audiez of the Sandy.

Speaker 8 (02:09:11):
I still think of him as on the Marlins.

Speaker 2 (02:09:13):
I know he was traded, but yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
Oh he's one hundred hits already.

Speaker 2 (02:09:17):
He got one hundred hits. He's the first one to
reach you on hunter hits.

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
Oh wow, good for the Giants.

Speaker 2 (02:09:22):
All right? So, uh, Willie May's passed on Wednesday. So now,
with the advent of Willie Mays's passing, I am now
currently the oldest living Major League Baseball Hall of Famer
Mark Ramsey, what my name.

Speaker 5 (02:09:44):
Is?

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
Oh no, not Reggie, no, Reggie. Richie's only about well,
I say only Reggie's about seventy seven or seventy eight.
All right, with the passing of Willie Mays, I'm now
the oldest living Major League Baseball player in the of fame.
Shavee Mogngar, What my name.

Speaker 1 (02:10:03):
Ah, he's got to be old.

Speaker 2 (02:10:04):
Huh, he's ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:10:06):
He's ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:10:07):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (02:10:09):
Okay, Kevin, help me out.

Speaker 2 (02:10:15):
Here, man.

Speaker 8 (02:10:17):
I know Sandy Kofax is alive and kicking, so he's.

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
Not ninety though. Oh my god, who you see? He
came out? We got too many, right, he's coming out
with hard ones.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
Now. It is Louis Aparicio. Oh. He was a great
middle infielder with the White Sox and a great defensive player.
But Louis Aparicio is now the oldest one. All right,
let's jump to the WNBA. Recently, in the WNBA, I
set a new record seven straight games with a double double.
Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 8 (02:10:47):
Angel Reese?

Speaker 2 (02:10:48):
It is Angel Reese. Let's go back to baseball. In
my illustrious career, I was issued more intentional walks than
any other ball player in Major League Baseball history. Shaan Mogangart,
What my name? I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:11:06):
It would have to be mister Juice himself, right, Barry Bonds.

Speaker 2 (02:11:08):
It is, in fact Jerry Bond. Yeah, he was, my god,
he was intentionally why I got the numbers somewhere. But
it doesn't matter. He's way ahead of everybody else.

Speaker 12 (02:11:17):
I would throw so far away from the box it
would be insane. I would go nowhere near that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:22):
I like to go ahead, go ahead, chef.

Speaker 8 (02:11:25):
I'd like to know if there's any like, any computer
nerds who can break down the potential amount of runs
saved by walking him intentionally as often as he was well.

Speaker 2 (02:11:34):
I think the Angels did that in the two thousand
and two series. Man, if you go back, I think
they intentionally walked him like twelve times.

Speaker 1 (02:11:39):
Oh my god, the way to do it.

Speaker 8 (02:11:41):
I think the home runn he hit I was in
the game five. Game six still hasn't landed.

Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
I will tell you. I grew up a few minutes
from Majel Stadium, and I was with CBS Radio Detroit
when they got to the game six. In game seven,
I reached out to a lady Nancy Man's Mania and
she helped me get a credential. I was not going
to miss it. And the Aches were down five nothing
in the seventh inning, and I said, I don't know, man,
this is the rally Monkey team. Sure enough, they come
back and win. They come back and win Game seven.

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I'll never forget that picture of Boonds sitting on the bench.
He looked like it be shot out of a cannon.
He was so sad. And they walked him. They had to.
They could not get him out. You could not get
him out. I mean you could throw the ball behind him,
you could throw a could hit it with the canoe paddle.
He's he was constantly gonna beat you. He was incredible.
All right, let's stay with baseball. He's last two. This

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is true trivia. Here to this day, I'm still the
oldest pitcher in Major League Baseball history to actually start
a game on the mound. Mark Ramsey went, my name
Tom sever It's not a bad one, not Tom Sever.
To this day, I'm still the oldest starting pitcher in
Major League Baseball because you start a game, Shane Oganngart,

(02:12:49):
what my name?

Speaker 1 (02:12:50):
Okay? I only know this because I play on LV
the show. In his card he has like an old
card for it's like.

Speaker 8 (02:12:59):
All right, I legitimately when I first read like he
was why like fifty three or somebody nine? I didn't
think that was real. Like I'm like, no, no, no, this
this is fake. Like he was killing it at forty two.

Speaker 2 (02:13:10):
Man, hey, listen, that's he was killing in forty two.
And look, Julio Franco hit a home run in fifty
Mini Minoso came in to pitch it in nineteen eighty
and fifty three. It's happened. Okay, it's happened. Last one.
Now this one, maybe this might be the toughest one
I've ever had two years to do in this game.
But if you know what, you know it okay to

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this day. I well, not to this day, because this
involves something in the decade of the nineties. In the
decade of the nineties, I had more bas hits than
any other Major League baseball player. Mark Ramsey, what my name, a'guire?

(02:13:52):
Not you're thinking of Mark McGuire. Not Mark McGuire. Okay,
I had more bass hits in the decades of the
nineties than any other Major League baseball player. Shane Ogingar, what.

Speaker 1 (02:14:03):
My name, uh, Ken Griffy, Not.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
Ken Griffy, not the kid. In the decade of the nineties,
I had more hits, more bass hits than any other
player in the entire decade of the nineties.

Speaker 8 (02:14:21):
I'm gonna have to guess the greatest pure here I've
seen in my lifetime Tony Gwynn.

Speaker 2 (02:14:26):
See, that's a really good guess. And it's not Tony Gwynn.

Speaker 1 (02:14:29):
Let's let's let's keep going. We could get this.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
Well, tell you what I'm gonna give you, guys some clues.
He went to high school in southern California and played
college baseball at San Diego State.

Speaker 8 (02:14:38):
Okay, well that I mean Tony gwyn Who is that?

Speaker 2 (02:14:45):
Gwen gwyn went to Long Beach Polly and played at
San Diego State. But it's not Tony Gwynn.

Speaker 1 (02:14:50):
Did Bigio go there?

Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
I'll give you another clue. We went to the same
high school as Sean Green.

Speaker 8 (02:14:56):
So Tustin High High.

Speaker 2 (02:14:58):
Right, look at you actually done?

Speaker 8 (02:15:00):
Yeah? I went to a friend of minelf Wait do
you group with Tustin? I went to elementary and junior
high in Testin.

Speaker 2 (02:15:06):
Oh what high school did you go to?

Speaker 8 (02:15:08):
I went to Tabuca Hills in Michigan.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
Oh, sure, sure, I know that.

Speaker 8 (02:15:10):
Sure, and then I went to Saint Jean de Lessonnox School.

Speaker 2 (02:15:12):
And where did you go? Like? Was it was that
like a junior either.

Speaker 8 (02:15:17):
No, Columbus Tuestin. No, I went to Saint I went
to Saint Gene de Lesson, which is.

Speaker 2 (02:15:21):
Like a lot of kids from modern day went to
Saint Yes.

Speaker 8 (02:15:24):
He did, Yes, yes they did.

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
All right, we're all those clicking noises are radio sets
turning off in the country. We better get off of this. Yeah,
but you guys are gonna get this till you went
to Tustin High. Tustin, you know, produced a lot of
athletes left handed hitter. Did he bones there, Mark Grace?
I was about to say he made his made his

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bones with the cups.

Speaker 8 (02:15:48):
Saddle back college.

Speaker 1 (02:15:49):
Baby, that's boor gold gloves.

Speaker 2 (02:15:52):
I love Mark good dude, man. I hung out with
him in the press box a few years ago. He
had a little bit of a rough adulthood there, right,
he had a couple of justin Timberlake incidents.

Speaker 1 (02:16:00):
Tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:16:01):
I'm pretty sure he uh, I'm pretty sure he did
a little time on the Houscow nineties.

Speaker 7 (02:16:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:16:09):
I love He's really really good dude though. Your Chainsmoker
just an interesting guy, just you know, just really sort
of a really a really underrated hitter. I've been think
about this, guys, in the decade of the nineties, he
had one thy seven hundred and fifty four hits. That's
one hundred and seventy five hits average for ten seasons.
Even if you play a one hundred and sixty two games, dude,

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no one's getting you out. You're getting hit every day, right,
So that is that is really quite a performance. And
when you consider all the great hitters that were still
active in the nineties, I mean, he he absolutely you know,
made his made his mark for sure. All right, outstanding job, guys.
I actually feel like I should throw in one bonus one,
But this this one is so wacky you guys will

(02:16:53):
be laughing.

Speaker 1 (02:16:54):
Your butt off or the dream theme through to us.

Speaker 2 (02:16:56):
Come on, well, all right, you got it, We're gonna
do it, all right. I'm an ex major league baseball pitcher,
but I have the distinction of once dating a young
lady about the name of Madison Bumgarner. True story, Mark Ramsey,
what my name?

Speaker 1 (02:17:18):
I have absolutely no idea?

Speaker 2 (02:17:20):
All right, well, right along, Yes, I'm an ex major
league baseball pitcher, but in my history, I actually have
the distinction of dating a young lady by the name
of Madison Bumgarner. Chef, What my Name?

Speaker 8 (02:17:35):
I always thought this was a joke, But is it
true that Madison gun Bumgarner dated a girl named Madison?

Speaker 2 (02:17:41):
It is not a joke. It's absolutely true. If you
ever meet if you ever meet Madison Bumgarner, he'll tell you.
It's the only reason we know the story because he
told people about it. Great job, guys, it's great.

Speaker 1 (02:17:55):
MVP over there, you got come on, you got everything today.

Speaker 8 (02:17:58):
I have a few wide pieces of knowledge up him.

Speaker 1 (02:18:01):
Sometimes I'm Jalen Brown over there.

Speaker 2 (02:18:05):
All right, good job, guys, great job on brand new
fool What my Name? Another rousing edition in the books.
And oh, by the way, after tonight's show, mark check
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sure to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,

(02:18:27):
just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,
and to see the show posted right after we get
off the air, coming up a lot of them. Finished business.
We had a very rousing midnight hour Friday night. We
took about twenty one calls, and let me set this up,

(02:18:50):
because the truth of the matter is, it's been a
crazy what thirty days. We lost Bill Walton, guess he
hasn't played a game in thirty eight years. We lost
Jerry West, Yes, he hadn't played a game in fifty years.
And we lost Willie Mays he hadn't played a game
in fifty one years. He had. All three of those
gentlemen iconic transcended their names. They arouse emotion fifty years later.

(02:19:15):
The reverence, the respect, the high esteem that people have
for these guys still resonates all these decades later. Is
there anybody in today's sports tapestry that's playing right now
that might engender the same admiration fifty years from now.
We're going to get to that after the chef's update.
But I have one more topic that aroused a lot
of emotion last night that I'll set up in just

(02:19:38):
a second. I'm Bernie Frattle. We are company live from
the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Diirec Dot Corom Studios.
Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie
Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the

(02:19:59):
Bernie f Our Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come to your
life from the Tarak dot Com studios here in Las Vegas.
Coming up after the Chef's update, we talk about what
players today would we talk about with the same reverts
in fifty years, the same way we talk about Bill Walton,
Jerry West, and Willie Mays who we all lost in
the last thirty days. And oh, by the way, Pete

(02:20:21):
Rose is back in the news. Gavin, what's going on?
There's a servity fruitful purpose anymore to keep him out
of baseball. We chop those with the crew coming up,
but first we go back to the guy and the
chef with the latest.

Speaker 8 (02:20:33):
Yeah day full of baseball on a Saturday, as the
Dodgers get a split with a freeway series against the Angels,
winning its seven to Saturday Night show, Yo Tani launching
his twenty third home run of the season four hundred
and fifty nine feet. It was estimated to travel as
a look like it might have even cleared the stadium
as Tyler Glassnew helping on the mound. Seven innings, one run,

(02:20:55):
alouts and strikeouts seventy four pitches. Aaron Judge with his
twenty to home run of the season. The Yankees over
the Braves eight to three. Rockies get a win on
a pitch clock violation with the bases loaded, They get
the walkoff win against the Nationals eight to seven. Kyle
Ferguson on the mound with three balls in the count,
did not get the pitch off in time, so the
Rockies awarded the walk and the run the game winning

(02:21:17):
run as it ended up being Colorado winning this one.
San Diego four straight wins now they beat the Brewers
six to four. The Houston Astros also on a winning
streak of four games. They beat the Orioles five to one.
The Guardians have made it four straight wins, including a
victory sixty three against the Toronto Blue Jays. The Minnesota
Twins ten to two winners at the Oakland Athletics. Bailey

(02:21:39):
Ober eighty nine pitches for his complete game. That's all
he needed, as he had a ten strikeouts. The Phillies
over the Diamondbacks twelve to one. The Cubs beat the
Mets eight to one. White Sox winners at Detroit five
to one. College World Series Texas A and M winning
the opening game against Number one Tennessee nine to five.
WNBA Breonna Stewart thirty three points as she helps New

(02:22:01):
York beat the La Sparks ninety eight eighty eight. New
York now fourteen to three. On the season golf, it's
Tom Kim ahead of the Travelers by one stroke. Scottie
Scheffler is tied for second place. And soccer Big weekend
in soccer both in the Americas and in Europe, Mexico
winning their Copa America opener one nil against Jamaica Venezuela

(02:22:21):
with a comfort behind victory against Ecuador two one. As
for the United States men's national team, they kick things
off against Bolivia Sunday evening at six o'clock and that
can be seen over on Fox. As for the European
Tournament Euro twenty twenty four, Belgium blanks Romania two nail,
Portugal shutting out Turkey three nail. In the Czech Republic

(02:22:41):
ties Georgia one to one.

Speaker 2 (02:22:43):
Back to you, Bernie, all right, Jeff coming up in
about fifteen minutes. By the way, you heard Reggie Jackson's
dissertation the other night about how difficult it was for
him to come back to rick Woodfield in Birmingham because
of the indignities he suffered. That doesn't lead I spent
an afternoon with Hank Aaron in nineteen ninety one of

(02:23:03):
the twelfth National Sports Collectors Convention in Anaheim. I was
part of the executive committee. He told me a story
that had taken place forty years earlier. Also actually was
not in Birmingham, Alabama, was in Washington, d C. When
he's playing for the Indianapolis Clowns. You don't want to
hear this story. It doesn't leave you. All right, let's
do these two guys. Let's start with a quick one.

(02:23:26):
Pete Rose, he's making the rounds again. Look, we've had
a player banned for life in the NBA and a
player banned for life in the situation in Major League Baseball?
Does it serve any purpose anymore to keep Pete Rose op?
Perhaps he could speak at these symposiums and say, hey,
look what happened to me? Do you really want to
be me? Start with you, chef? Yes or no? Leave man?

Speaker 8 (02:23:47):
Or out the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 (02:23:50):
Well two things. Should he be eligible to at least
be voted for in the Hall of Fame. But even
if he's not, should he be banned from baseball? He's
not allowed to work in baseball.

Speaker 8 (02:23:59):
Yeah, I've always felt that being banned from working within
the league was always a justifiable punishment given the extent
that he gambled, not only on baseball but on his
own team. Apparently it was only to win, according to Rose,
but that's just a that's just a red line that
cannot be crossed. So when it comes to him working
for a team, I've always supported him not being able
to do that. He just he broke the He broke

(02:24:21):
the most cardinal rule in Major League Baseball and it's
posted in every clubhouse. He knew that he broke the rules.

Speaker 2 (02:24:27):
That's one thing that so we'll call that or no,
would you should be voted on the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 8 (02:24:31):
Hall of Fame I think is different, just because that's
about recognizing achievements as opposed to whether he broke any
rules in the game. I mean, he is the old
time hits leader, and I think that's something that should
absolutely be recognized.

Speaker 3 (02:24:43):
Now.

Speaker 8 (02:24:44):
The thing that's keeping out of the Hall of Fame,
I think now, more than the gambling, was the statutory
rape allegation that came out against him a few years ago.
Because it seemed like he was kind of working his
way backward.

Speaker 2 (02:24:54):
Let that kind of let go for Fox.

Speaker 8 (02:24:57):
Yes, exactly. So I think before that came out, he
was maybe kind of inching his way toward maybe at
least getting a shot at the Hall of Fame. But
as soon as.

Speaker 2 (02:25:06):
That, yeah, I think Rob, I don't want to get
to all these subjects. In nineteen eighty nine, Brose had
a chance and he kind of gave the middle finger
to a bar Giamati who passed away suddenly, and he
handed it off to fave Vincent. I think it was
a deathbed wish. No, he's not getting in. That was
handed off to Bud Selig and Rob Manfred. The question

(02:25:28):
is whether or not it's serving any fruitful purpose anymore.
But I think you make your point pretty well. Shay
your thoughts.

Speaker 12 (02:25:35):
Yeah, I'd have to agree with with Wire basically on
all of those accounts. I do not think he should
be working for a team at all, especially after all
the gailing. It's just he was one of the biggest
not advocates. But the word I'm looking forward is one
of the biggest people to do that in terms of sports,
and that's such an early time too. I'm sure there

(02:25:57):
was others doing it, but he was the most popular.
He is the most hits. He still is the MLB
all time leader in hits. So it's someone that big
doing that. It just it kind of rubs me the
wrong way. So no, I do not think he should
be able to work for the MLB. But this is
something that me and you have discussed and something that
you touch on all the time. When they were playing,
especially in that era, everyone was juiced. Everyone was doing

(02:26:20):
something that they weren't supposed to be doing it. When
it comes to the Hall of Fame, I feel like
because they were playing other people that basically do that,
like they were either juiced or whatever drugs they were taking,
it doesn't matter. I think that he should still be
able to go in the Hall of Fame just because
of that, just because the competition was doing the same
exact thing, and there are people I'm sure that made

(02:26:42):
the Hall of Fame that didn't end up getting caught.
So I just I in regards to Hall of Fame,
I think she should definitely be in. But in regards
to working in the MLB, I'm very happy that he's
not fair.

Speaker 2 (02:26:55):
You make the distinction, and you know, the Hall of
Fame as a museum, if it was confined to good
guys or probably three three people in the Hall of Fame.
So you got the last word on this, Mark Ramsey.

Speaker 11 (02:27:08):
I still think when it comes to the Hall of Fame,
he can't get in because of the gambling. But I
do think because he is Pete Rose, that he could
talk to baseball players that are just coming into the
league and basically help them. I think that he should
make his own way to make a case to MLB.

Speaker 2 (02:27:32):
He's back doing it now, he's making the rounds with
these podcasts.

Speaker 8 (02:27:35):
If he's trying to get back in, that's good.

Speaker 11 (02:27:37):
But for Hall of Fame, no, because of the cheating
of the betting stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:27:44):
All right, good variants of opinions and thoughts there with receipts,
all right. So Bill Walton has passed, Jerry West has passed,
and now Willie Mays has past. And the real significance,
obviously to me, is that even though Walton hadn't played
a game in thirty eight years, West hadn't played in

(02:28:05):
fifty years, Willie Mays hadn't played in fifty one years.
Hit their iconic, They're transcendent. You mentioned her names today,
They arouse emotion. You mentioned her names today, You feel
you see the reverence, the respect, the highest steem, it
resonates decades later. Is there anybody in today's sports tapestry
it's currently playing that might have gendered the same admiration

(02:28:26):
fifty years from now. I think Patrick Mahomes has a chance.
But I took twenty one calls Friday night in the
midnight hour. Some people mentioned Tiger Woods, some people mentioned
Mike Tyson, more than one mentioned Steph Curry Shay let's
start with you. Who comes to mind? Does anybody fit
that criteria?

Speaker 12 (02:28:42):
So, I mean, as a Dodger fan, I might be biased,
but shoheo Tani definitely.

Speaker 2 (02:28:46):
I think that name came up last night.

Speaker 12 (02:28:48):
Yes, I mean Trout. He is just pure blood New
York Yankee. I think he will definitely be someone that
we hear about and us what's interesting?

Speaker 2 (02:28:55):
Do you think Mike Trout checks the box? If that
Walton did with this quotability in the media, and Willie
Mays did with his say hey enthusiasm, and certainly Jerry West,
it was a savive. Trout's just a really good athlete
one hundred.

Speaker 12 (02:29:10):
But that's all he needs to be. That's what I'm saying.
Like in regards to we're all talking about him. He
barely goes to the media, He barely comes out and
says things. And every time he does say something, we
love him.

Speaker 5 (02:29:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:29:20):
Does that hold up fifty years from now? Though?

Speaker 1 (02:29:21):
I truly think just because he's on the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (02:29:25):
It will if he was he ultimatelyans because he's from
New Jersey. Think Yale ultimately ins up back there?

Speaker 1 (02:29:32):
Ah, No, I think he'll retire.

Speaker 2 (02:29:36):
That's right. Hold that thought. That's going to be a
conversation for a different data because he hasn't worked time
for that. I think the thing about it with these
players is they transcend their sport with the tangible visceral
feeling they engender, and people chef your thoughts. Is here
anybody playing today we're going to be talking about fifty

(02:29:57):
years from now, like we're talking about Jerry West.

Speaker 8 (02:29:58):
I would say showy a maze Schoeyotani's probably the best bet,
just because he's doing what hasn't been seen in baseball
in one hundred years. So we did it. So it's
because of how unique a skill set and how great
he has been, not just hitting and pitching. It's just
someone we don't see very often so that will carry
decades into the future. As for all the other players

(02:30:20):
mentioned across different sports, I mean, they're great, but they're
not like I haven't seen anything that says they're the
type of great player that we'll be talking about in
fifty others.

Speaker 2 (02:30:30):
Again, a lot of these guys got to end up
in the media in the public eye afterward as well.
All right, Mark Ramsey, you were part of the discussion
last night, you got the last word.

Speaker 11 (02:30:38):
Based on what we were talking about, and just you know,
right now, just thinking about this stuff, I don't know
if anybody right now quantified that their careers, if they're
in their twenties, if they have any attributes right now that,
like you said, brings a certain emotion, because I mean,

(02:31:01):
I I was just thinking about Anthony Rizzo because he
was a Cub and he was on a team that
finally won a Cub game after a hundred years. But
for all the things that you say about Walton and
May's and Jerry West, what is it about them that
brings emotion? And do those attributes? Are they are anybody

(02:31:25):
right now? And see that's what I'm saying that there's
nobody right now that I see has certain attributes that
will carry on, you know, because they do things on
the field versus off the field for various reasons. I
don't see anybody right now in their twenties, based on
what they do off the field or what is going

(02:31:47):
on in their life that would, you know, allow people
to think about them fifty years from now.

Speaker 2 (02:31:54):
Yeah, fifty years is a long time, and you have
to have reached people emotional on a tangible visceral level
to be remembered with the same kind of reverence. These
three guys all within the last three days.

Speaker 12 (02:32:06):
Real quick, Bernie, before you go to break. Lebron needs
to be mentioned life. Okay, good, Lebron's definitely going to
be there, and Tiger will definitely be talked about.

Speaker 2 (02:32:13):
Tiger, I think is a real chance. Yeah, all right, good,
good stuff, guys. Again, that's something we can revisit at
another time. I am hoping that we go a while
without another icon passing away. But you know, they don't
live forever, do they. And that's part of the thing.
When you look at a Jerry West, when you look
at a Big Walden, you look at Willie Mays, you
thought they would live forever, and in some degree they

(02:32:34):
are going to live forever. Coming up, we wrap up
the show. I'm going to tell my Hank Aaron story.
It's tantamount to the Reggie Jackson story, and it plays
into the dignities these men suffered while trying to make
their way in America. That was a different time. I'm
Bernie Frattle. We're a company live from Las Vegas, Fox
Sports Radio, Tireck dot Com Studio. Just keep it locked.

(02:32:54):
You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.
We're wrapping it up on the Bernie fratt Our Show,
coming to live from the Tirek dot Com studios here
in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio. Before I go any further,
I want to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles.
They've been with me since eleven pm Pacific time on
Saturday night. Mark Ramsey, my technical producer, turning all the dials,

(02:33:17):
keeping us glued together, Shave Moganngarden, our executive producer, and
of course Kevin Wired the chef on all the updates
and other BAFA performance. You saw Reggie Jackson's dissrotation the
other night. It was honest, it was raw, it was kurt,
it was accurate. Yes, this is what these men had
to endure. Well, in nineteen ninety one, a part of

(02:33:39):
the staff of the National Sports Collectors Convention, the Great
Mike burkas I, had the opportunity to spend an afternoon
with Hank Aaron among many people, but Hank really really
stood out. And you know, it was seventeen years removed
from him passing Babe Ruth, and you know he took
He got a lot of hate mail, a lot of
racist hate mail. People did not want him breaking roots.

(02:34:00):
But those weren't the worst indignities he ever endured. He
told me, the worst indignity he ever endured actually took
place in nineteen fifty one. Hank Arett hadn't even gotten
to the major leagues yet, and he was playing for
the Indianapolis Clowns of the Old Negro Leagues, and they
were on a road trip in Washington, DC. And it's

(02:34:20):
my understanding, if memory serves, the game was rained out
that day. So, in sort of an odd gesture, the
Clowns of the Indianapolis Clowns, a team that Hank was
playing for, they were allowed to eat in a restaurant
that was near the stadium the Old Griffith Stadium, where
the old Washington Senter used to play back in the day,
and they were allowed to have a meal there. Well

(02:34:43):
after the players finished their meal and they were heading
to the team bus, they heard an unmistakable sound coming
from the building behind them where they had just exited.
They heard the sound of dishes being smashed against the wall.

(02:35:04):
And Hank Aaron and his teammates knew instantly what that
had signified. They had to suffer this indignity, that because
those dishes had been used by black people, they were
going to be smashed. Hank Aaron went on to say
that he believed that if they'd fed dogs off those dishes,
they just would have watched them. That doesn't leave you.

(02:35:27):
That is the kind of indignity that would stay with
you your entire life. Hank Aaron endured that. And I'll
never forget him telling me that story. And of course
this is forty years later, this is nineteen ninety one.
He's telling me the story. And Hank was such an
elegant man, such a nice, gentle guy, not a big
guy at all. He could have been more than five

(02:35:48):
to eleven, and all the things he endured just to
get to the Major Leagues, and then of course chasing
Babe Ruth. But of all the things had happened that
incident in nineteen fifty one when they were allowed to
eat the team meal, but what ensued afterwards stuck with
him very poignant. So when you hear Reggie Jackson talking
about what he had to endure, and he's told those

(02:36:09):
stories before, even told the story once about I believe
they threatened to burn down the apartment he was living in.
So look the crew. We did a great job talking
about earlier in the evening the significance of this game
at rick Wood Field because it allowed the two leagues,
the Negro Leagues melding as in a sense with all

(02:36:31):
the talent that came over into the major leagues after
Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in nineteen forty seven.
I believe the Negro Leagues were disbanded in nineteen forty eight.
But regardless, what that game did was set the stage
and certainly cause or bring a remembrance to all the
great players that came before. I said, this is the
first time I went to Wrigley Field. I looked at

(02:36:53):
the batter's box right the first time I went to Fenway,
said wow, Ted Williams stood in that box. I went
to Yankee Stadium, well, Babe Bruce stood in that box.
First time I went to Tiger Staves at Ty Cobbs
stood that box. Well. Imagine going to rickwood Field. I
drove by it last year when I was in Birmingham
in April of twenty twenty three on the way to Alabama,
and I saw it and I said, wow, I'd love

(02:37:13):
to go in there and see that. Josh Gibson stood
in that box. Satchel Page stood on that mound. What
an incredible event. I'll be back on these airwaves next
Friday night at eleven pm Pacific with more high jinks.
We will look forward to seeing it in that is
going to do it for their Bernie Frattle Show. I
want to thank my crew again, and I will also

(02:37:35):
say stay tuned because up next on these airwaves the
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