Brian Noe and Geoff Schwartz Talk Caitlin Clark's Status, Paul George's Potential Landing Spots, Other NBA Free Agency Craze, and More!

Brian Noe and Geoff Schwartz talk about Caitlin Clark’s status in the WNBA so far, what might happen with Paul George and Klay Thompson in NBA Free Agency, chat with NFL insider Adam Caplan on the latest in NFL camps as we inch closer to training camp, and so much more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Afternoon to you, Jeff Schwartz. Great to be with you again.
If you would have told me a year ago, Jeff,
that I would be watching WNBA games left and right
and betting on them. I literally just saw a second
ago Angel Reesa's seventeen rebounds. We need to be on

(00:43):
the over on that, Jeff. How did we miss that
opportunity there?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I mean, her stats are so interesting to me because
half for our offense, nearly half our offense rebounds. It
is a shocking amount of offensive rebounds of her own.
Missus a lot of times like it's a great opportunity.
You know, when you bet like a like a points
to rebounds assist right for those who you can bet

(01:09):
the combination of all those right, like the best play
is like an offensive rebound and a basket that's three.
You get three for that, right, even better, obviously, off
it's a rebound basket foul, you get four. She gets
three all the time. She gets her own rebound and
it scores two points. Like she would be the absolute
best to wager on in those points rebound assists market

(01:31):
because of that reason. However, I'm glad you started with
maybe the game happening right now Phoenix in Indiana, because
we talked about her a lot. Kaylyn Clark, all right,
and she's very polarizing for whatever reason. But Dana Tarazzi,
one of the best of all time, right is on
the Phoenix Mercury, and she talked a lot about Kaylyn

(01:53):
Clark joining the WNBA, and some of the points I
think are very valid, like, hey, it's gonna take time.
She's a young cat. But it sounds a lot like
a lot of haterade, you know, Brian, a lot of haterrade.
And all Kanan Clark has done kept her mouth shut,
encouraged other women, encouraged other players in the league, gone
about her job, and I think she's two rebounds away

(02:13):
from a triple double today. Yeah, and I know they're
gonna lose. Phoenix's kind of taking off right now. Indiana
was winning for part of the second half. But Kanan
Clark's at twelve, eight and ten right now.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, that's a good way.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
To tell the rest of these old cats like I'm here,
I'm here to stay. She's not shooting terribly well, but
that's you know, she shot better recently, but against these
better teams, she's struggling to find a little bit of
her shot, which is again, this fair criticism of her
game right now. But I love the quiet sort of
assassin thing. Now, I'm not against talking, I'm not against
that at all, but I love when a player is

(02:51):
just quiet and then just goes about and dominates.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, it's a good point where they just flashed it
on the screen, where like you read off this that line.
Caitlyn has twelve points, she has eight rebounds, ten assists.
No rookie in WNBA history has recorded a triple double,
so she's two rebounds away from making history. And yeah,
going back to Diana, and I agreed with her. She

(03:15):
was like, listen, there are levels to these things. When
you go from dominating in college to playing against grown
women who have been playing professional basketball for years and years.
It's a different level and it might take a little
bit of time to be a star. I didn't have
any problem with that whatsoever. But because it's Kitlin Clark,
sometimes it mushrooms into a bigger deal. But I like

(03:38):
your point where I agreed with Diana. There are levels
to this thing. But Caitlyn Clark is already productive. I
think it's a mixture. She will have her passing ability,
some assists. She'll make some passes that are chest gorgeous
and it's like, how did you see that? And then
there are some passes where it's like, oh my gosh,
that was awful. So she's a progress she is still

(04:00):
productive to begin her career.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Here, she's averaging I think six and a half or
seven assists, and it could easily be ten if if
her teammates has catched the ball. Like her turnovers. It's
a high turnover number. But if you watch and people
told her to me to do a good job of
just highlighting this, Brian, her teammates cannot catch the ball.
It reminds me of do you remember the famous Stephen A.
Smith rant when when the Lakers traded pal Gasol's gonna

(04:26):
be four pal Gasol and trade away. Kwame Brown, Kwame Brown. Yeah.
And Steven A. Smith is like he's got he's got
hands for bricks. He cannot catch the ball. He can't
like he cannot catch His hands are small, they're bricks.
He cannot catch the ball. That's the rant. By the way,
it was like old Stephen A. Smith. It was just
it was brilliant. It's before he became famous, porgan popular
the way he is now. That's what her teammates have.

(04:47):
They have bricks for hands. They don't catch the ball.
And you know what part of it Two when you
play with someone like White, Kaylyn Clarkenbook, I've not played
the NBA, but I've been fortunate to play with some
good basketball over the years. Is a year youth and
some AU stuff and some some summer ball stuff. Is like,
when you play with someone like her, you have to

(05:07):
always be ready for the ball. And it's a new
experience for people that don't play with someone like her.
And you can even put this in NBA. I mean,
you know, there's been guys and we just you know,
Bill Walton just passed obviously a couple of weeks ago.
He's one of those guys like, if you weren't ready
for the ball, you were gonna tumble it, like you
always be right, he was gonna pass you the ball.
You always to be ready for the ball. And the
ladyship plays are not ready for the ball. They fumbled

(05:30):
the ball away so much. And uh answers a rookie
on a bad team the first pick overall for a reason.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, and listen, we've got a lot of stuff to
get to today. The ball buffet is in effect, Jeff.
We've got a lot of NFL to get to. Yeah,
some other NBA stuff that I think is interesting. But
sticking with this as we wind down, Phoenix is up
by seven with under four minutes to play. It's this
is gonna sound hyperbolic, and I don't mean it to

(05:56):
sound like that at all, but it does remind me.
Hang with me, because there's gonna be like, I don't mean,
like some shock value to begin with, but with Caitlyn
Clark on the road, when her team scores, and especially
when she scores, the the cheering that takes place, how
loud it is, it reminds me of the nineties Bowls

(06:19):
with Michael Jordan and I'm not saying she's Mike. I'm
not saying anything like that, but it just reminds me
of like the Beatles factor when they're on the road.
It's there already with Caitlyn Clark. It's wild.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know, I thought about this because you know, they've
showed the arenas that she's playing this year. They've showed
how you know, they've they've had to move from some
of the smaller venues to the you know, the larger
NBA arenas, right, And it's so fascinating to me because
you know, like her style of play and the way

(06:57):
people shoot threes now is is not you know, that unique,
especially with NBA players like Steph Curry, But I think
that we just love the performative nature of her game, right,
Like that's what it is. You want to see players
just chuck up logo. She met Logo three in Seattle
the other night. Like it's just she just plays a
game that again, it's not that it's not it's not

(07:17):
that different from other players. They're just the way she
she carries herself on the court, the shot selections she has,
it just feels more exciting when she does it than
anyone else.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, no, it's true.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
It's like I don't know, like why that is exactly
because but like Sabrina Escue, she's just as many threes
as her. It makes just as many of them, but
they don't look as a certain way, like they don't
look as exciting as the one Calen Clark takes.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Right, It's and Sabrina's great at what she does, but
her form isn't as interesting, right, Like she has some
deep threes, but I don't know, she's a little more
mechanical a little bit. I don't mean that as it
disc but like, wow, factor with is different.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Her legs go like Canon Clark's legs play out and
let's go over the place. Yeah, mean, dude, they're selling
out even even my daughter. Today's my son. I think
I had on the Liberty game earlier for a little
bit in between some Euro soccer matches and my son
are the Fever playing. I was like, no, that's later.
He said, Oh, okay, that's that's Katon Clark's team. I'm like, yep,

(08:24):
that is It is like, like I don't know how
he know. I thought, like, we don't spend a ton
of time talking about can and Clark in our house,
but everyone just knows who she is.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Wow, Yeah, it's uh. And she grabbed a rebound, so
I believe she's one rebound away.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's pretty awesome. A triple double against the basically the
team of the players who said you couldn't play in
this league at this level.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
At least initially. Yeah, right, Yeah, But I think.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
There's some I think that there is. It sounded to
me like there was a little bit more than just
like this year. It sounded a lot like we don't
know she'll make it. It felt a little harsher than that.
But and the criticism is totally valid because we've seen
in every league that you know, rookie year is hard man,

(09:06):
especially in this thing. You weren't She went right from college,
one month of training camp right to the WNBA season.
Now they're going to take a break for the Olympics soon,
which I think will be pretty helpful for her. I
actually think I said at the time, Brian, we haven't
done a show in quite a while. Now I've been traveling.
Is I think it's actually better for her personally to

(09:28):
miss the Olympics. She needs a little bit of like
time to relax a little She needs like a little
bit of like she she basically carried college basketball for
so many months, right, and now she's had this media
storm around her and wa even going so far as
you know, you know, ladies in the league questioning if

(09:49):
she has their back, you know, like all these and
it's gone way past just basketball, Like the three or
four weeks off she's going to get in this summer
of not doing the Olympics. I think it'd be really
great for her.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, it could be if she definitely gets a chance
to recharge and all of that. We've only got about
two minutes to go, and Indiana can cut it to
a one point deficit. There was a flagrant one. I get.
I can't believe these are our lives. Now we're breaking
down WNBA games. I love this leading up to the game.

(10:20):
This is beautiful. Diana Tarassi asked a question and did
not go in depth. Check this out, though.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I'm storing into facing Kami Park for the first time
on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, it'll be fun, that's it. Yeah, it'll be fun.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
They just don't want to get asked about it. This
is all look right. The veterans reaction is is totally
I totally understand it because I look, I've been those
spots before. God, the rest of our team is just
not good. Like you, you don't want to talk about
a young player that you feel has not earned the

(10:55):
right to be talked about. As you mentioned, there's levels
to what she said. There's levels to attention that you
generate in sports leagues, and a lot of times that
attention veterans feel has to be earned. And then in
this league, especially because you know there has been a
steady rise in viewership and attention paid to w I

(11:15):
know I personally watch more partly because you know, I
a Sabrina fan, and she went to Oregon. I tried
to follow the you know, the organ team out and whatnot.
She married off. It's alignment too, So she's very smart
and and so you know, I've watched more of it,
and so I understand the veterans feeling of like, hey,
there's been stories to cover before, y'all haven't been here

(11:38):
to cover them. Why we're talking about a woman who
hasn't even set foot in our league yet. And I
get that feeling, but also comes off as jealousy, which
is again a natural feeling to have in that situation. Brian. Yeah,
but when she's helped But thinking about Brian, sorry, the

(11:58):
last there is she's helping the league so much by
her presence, by her fandom around her, and she herself.
I don't know her at all. All I can go
off is what I've seen her, how I've seen her
playing at their times. She shrugs her teammates and and
you know, doesn't look at the best team of all time.
But I think generally speaking, she seems like a good teammate.

(12:20):
I can't she's like a good you know, a good person.
I think, I don't know how else to say it.
So like she's not bringing on the christm on herself.
So it comes off his jealousy a lot of times.
But I understand where the jealousy comes from.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Right, Yeah, it's to me the the Diana Tarassi thing
where she's like, yeah, it'll be fun. That's what you
explained it at the beginning, where it comes across as
a veteran that's like, man, this rookie really hasn't she
hasn't done anything yet.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So well the other time with a minute and half left,
So yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I just don't want to be waxing poetic or talking
about her like crazy. It's like, I think she's a
competitive maniac. And I mean that as a compliment with
Diana t ROSSI. Now, if you go Kennedy Carter and
sort of like Bill Goldberg spear Youkaylee like it's pro
wrestling or something. Now, now that goes to the next
level where there's a little bit more animosity or jealous

(13:16):
whatever is going on there.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
The officiating in this league ain't crat either, by the way.
I've noticed that. Not my favorite officiated league. No, I
feel like that it could be the case in a
lot of places. But sometimes they like sort of it
just they let things go sometimes and they get really ticky, tacky,
and I don't know what. I don't know what they're
doing sometimes, but I feel like that's you can make
a grape of every league. But here we are, I mean,

(13:41):
Fever down down two with a minute about minute left. Well,
now now it's tied and they have and one with
a minute twenty two. So there's a pretty big win
for for for the Fever. I think it's a pretty
cool story then going and get this one because Phoenix
is good, right, They're still good. I think they got there.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Right they don't.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
They have three or four Olympians on their team.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, but they're not as great as they used to be.
You know, Diana is a little bit older, a lot older.
Forty two. I can't believe she's forty two. She's forty
two years old.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Man. Yeah. Yeah, Brittany Grinder is tall. I think that
you sometimes here like and we had we had a
woman's called baschtball played organ. It was six six when
I was there, and that's how tall I am. And
she look between the eye and it's it's still like
to see Brittany Grinder on the court. Yeah, she's tall.

(14:31):
She is tall, and she gets a lot of rebounds.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah she is. She's a tree out there and just
got filed down low. So we'll see. We got some
drama a little more than a minute, Togo. We got
ball on the docket, a lot of football to get
into coming up next. We want to look at a
couple of huge names and what's to come. We'll get
to that right around the corner. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.

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Speaker 1 (15:53):
It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian no.
So we got a huge name. We got a big
name on the open market right now. Lebron James opts
out is eyeing a new contract with the Lakers. There
and Paul George he opted out. That's the big name
and let's start with Lebron for obvious reasons. Jeff, you

(16:15):
look at this and the news is that he's willing
to take a haircut contractually, right, He's willing to take
maybe a twenty million dollar haircut on his fifty ish
million dollar contract in order to get a veteran like
James Harden or Klay Thompson or our guy Big V
Jonas Valenchunis. And I don't know why more superstars don't

(16:39):
do this. If you look at Lebron, if he's able
to surround himself with a better supporting cast and they're
able to make a run, if they're able to mess
around and win a championship, he's gonna make so much
more money then he will be losing by leaving somewhere
in the neighborhood of twenty million dollar dollars on the table.
Tom Brady did this for years. He didn't command top dollar,

(17:01):
and that certainly helped his pursuit of a championship year
after a year. I don't know why more superstars don't
do this. Patrick Mahomes could be commanding even more money
than he's gotten and he's left some on the table,
and I think that has helped him so Lebron, he's
at least willing to do this. We'll see what happens, though,
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
It's hard to take less money anytime in your life
for the good of the organization, you know, because a
lot of times coveries one is I think players don't
trust the organization to make those right decisions. Now Lebron
is doing this where he's saying, like, you bring me
the contract that someone's gonna sign that all do my

(17:42):
deal right, Like he's afforded the opportunity to do because
he's Lebron James, right, and everyone knows he's coming back
she no matter what price. So he can give himself
the opportunity to say, hey, man, show me the mid level.
And I believe that they're just going for a mid
level exemption, right, it's a one player that he would
like to add. Lebron will will adjust his contract accordingly.

(18:02):
Most of the time, you know your players are on
that situation right where if Patrick Mahomes says, all take less,
the Chiefs don't have to spend the money, right Like
they don't have to, they're obligated to do so, and
his deal would basically be taking less and then the
chiefs are proving to him, we're using your money to
buy their place. This is the reverse, right where Lebron's

(18:23):
gonna wait essentially until they decide whether or not they're
going to use that and who they're going to use
it on, and that deal has been done before it's
signing his contract. Right. It's just a big difference in
those two situations. But also to Brian, the job of
you know, your agent and the NFL PA or NBA
PA is to get the most money. You can't. Hey,

(18:46):
it looks good for you and you make the most money.
But also too, is that it advances the next contract.
Right now, that's a little bit different because their deals
are locked by the salary cap and different sort of
you know, max deals and bird rights all this stuff. Right,
it's more locked into place than the NFL. But you know,
if Patrick Mahomes only takes you know, forty two a

(19:09):
year and he can make fifty five a year, yeah,
then everyone else can be like, well, I'm not paying
two of fifty five, I'm paying two of forty one.
So that's that's why players and agents have a hard
time a green to take less money, because as Brady
took less money there at the end with the Patriot,
did they get him a wide receiver ever?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
So you know, like it's hard to do that because
you're not guaranteed that they're going to do that.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, right, you're not guaranteed you're going to be surrounded
by the top players. But listen for superstars to be
willing to do that, they've been I'll put it this way.
There's been a lot of star players that have not
been willing to do that where they have commanded top
dollar and sometimes we know this, you got to skimp.
If you're giving a huge in the NFL, you're giving

(19:55):
a huge, top of the market value type deal, you
got to skimp elsewhere on the roster. That's just the
way it goes. And yeah, some superstars have not been
willing to do that. So to at least hear that
Lebron's willing to do that, it could pay dividends. I
think this roster is far away from truly competing for
a championship, but being willing to do that. I mean,

(20:17):
it's great PR too, He's very PR savvy, But I
do think that it's it makes sense to at least
leave that possibility open by the way this WNBA game
is winding down. Great out of bounce play by Phoenix.
Down by three, they threw the ball to Britney Grinder
and her teammate kicked the ball over to Indiana and

(20:39):
that basically, you know, sealed the win for the Fever.
A nice win for them on the road.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
He's a great win for them again, like kind of
like just kind of quiet going about it again in
that win.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Dude, Betting is so frustrating, Jeff, I have not I have.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
No money anything right now, So it's not it's not fun.
I don't know why we do it.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I don't either. I don't know. It's I think like
my mindset should be more realistic because when you bet,
I'm sure you're the same way. You're like, oh I
like this bet, I'm gonna bet this and I'm gonna
have fun today, and it's the opposite. A lot of times.
It's it's like, hey, how could I get really frustrated today? Oh?

(21:20):
I know I could bet it's off and how it
works out? Right? I took Phoenix on the live line.
I'm like, I think Phoenix is coming back. Fever had
a huge third quarter. They're gonna punch back, and they did,
and then they stopped punching and they lost the game. Meanwhile,
yesterday I had the Detroit Tigers, thought it was a

(21:40):
good line. They're up five to two, Jeff. Somehow they
lost in extras six to five. And then today, just
to twist the knife, they're leading seven to nothing. Where
it's like, I don't have a nickel on the Tigers today.
I was betting on them. Yesterday they had a three
run lead late and somehow screwed it all up. It's

(22:03):
I don't know why we do it. You said it best.
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
It's not It's not fun. Nothing about it is fun.
We need Hoby, we do it anyways, I have no
many I think it's the first time we've done a
radio show in a long time where I have nothing
on anything right now.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, it's it's early, you know, it's very early. Right now.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'm already out on baseball. I'm aready done with baseball today.
I had no w I said soccer ready today, like
I'm I had a double chance on Slovenia England hit.
I didn't know what a double chance was talking we
could go, but I'm using to my advantage nice.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
You don't have anything on the Rockies game. You normally
fade that.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, but they're playing the other team.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, that's so.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I can't I say, not that serious.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I know.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh man, that's not great, right.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
No, it is. We'll get to the other big name
on the open market and some rumors that are swirling.
First though, Martin Weiss with us this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Martin, what's going on, man, Rockies White Sox game. I mean,
don't get me wrong, two teams that stink, but it
has been wild five to four right now on the
top of the fifth, fourteenth inning in the net game
that you're talking about. So, Jeff, if you had bet
on it, you would be stressing out majorly because why
are they playing fourteen innings between these two teams?

Speaker 6 (23:17):
And you just said it, Brian.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
The Tigers seven Angels nothing in the fifth inning, Minnesota
with a three to thing lead over Seattle in the fifth,
Oakland and Arizona tied one apiece in the sixth, and
the Giants over the Dodgers right now, nine to one
in the sixth inning, and the WNBA the.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Fever beat the Mercury eighty eight to eighty two. After that,
soccer play that they called.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
On the inbounds where Britney Grinder caught it and then
kicked it right to Indiana. That pretty much did seal
the game for Indiana. They win by six. Links pinked
the sky seventy to sixty two. Angel Reese made history
most consecutive double doubles in a season, with ten so
far in a row, finishing with ten points and seventeen rebounds.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
And it was a little bit of drama.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
She hit the last free throw with like three seconds
left on the clock to go ahead and get that
tenth point. Round of sixteen has kicked off. At the
Euro twenty twenty four, England defeated Slovakia.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Two to one.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Spain beat Georgia four to one. Andy Murray had spinal
surgery on June twenty second. He's trying to play Wimbledon,
which starts tomorrow. Says he plans to undergo medical tests,
play another practice set and make a decision.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
In the evening.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Now, the NBA Detroit Pistons are hiring former Cabs head
coach JB. Bickerstaff as the franchise's next coach. According to ESPN,
it's a five year deal and the NBA free agency.
We'll have some updates on that coming up soon as
it the windows open in about twenty eight minutes.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Brian and Jeff back to you guys.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
All right, thank you, Martin. It's Jeff Schwartz and Brian
Know here with you on Fox Sports Radio. How about
Paul George on the open market? So the rumor mill
swirling here, Jeff. According to Chris Haynes, there's growing optimism
that the Sixers could land Paul Georgian free agency.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I think that's the team that I think feels most
likely right to get in. That's the team people have
talked about is wanting Paul George. I don't know that
that changed your thoughts about them.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, Like I like Paul George and around Embiid and MAXI.
It'd be interesting certainly in the East, it would make
them interesting. But I mean, look, it's one of these
deals with Paul George. We've been interested for quite a
while and it just hasn't turned into anything. So the
Clippers run. A lot of that had to do with
Kawhi and his injuries, but man, a lot of high

(25:34):
hopes in clipper Land and you got a whole lot
of nothing there with Paul George and Kawhi.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
No, I don't know it. It feels very Clippers to
have that happen. I'm curious if George is the mid
level exemption guy the Lakers want. Probably not going to happen,
but curious if does anyways, right.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, uh, our trusted producer Bo Benson is what
he's got a thought on all.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
No, he just said there's growing optimism. Do you think
that's related at all to Joel Embiid practically flirting with
Paul George on National TV a couple of weeks ago
during the NBA Finals or nah?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, well it could have something. I feel like that.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
This has been talked about though as a as a
pair for yeah a while now.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
NBA free agency is just so funny because, like like yesterday,
for example, you have Lebron could take a pay cut,
right and then two minutes after that, oh, Clay Thompson's
probably leaving Golden State, and then all of a sudden,
like could Clay Thompson And it's just also telegraphed. It's
so funny to me, Well.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Because these guys have the same four agents and exactly
their friends they talk all the time. It's not anything
different than you know what the NFL haves. They just
felt pretend to care about tampering.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
Yeah, I think that's it too. Like you saw the
Sixers leak a couple of weeks ago, like, oh, they're
not that interested in Paul George. I think they just
didn't want to get hit with any tampering investigation.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Tampering is it's very silly that that that's something that
seems to people in you know, seem to actually care
about in the I mean, come on, we all know.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
It's happening, right, Yeah, it's weird, right, it's a it's
just a league thing. It's strange, right, It's kind of
like speeding on the highway. We know what happens all
the time, and every now and then they'll be like,
all right, let's pull over this random guy, Like that's
what tampering is in the NBA. In the NFL, it
happens all the time, and then just selectively they'll be like,

(27:22):
you know what, let's crack down on the Falcons and
them talking to Kirk Cousins. It's just strange.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's never made sense. Why tampering is you know, so
worried about it, But in this in the NBA. Obviously,
the tampering is NonStop. I mean again, we're going to
get this is going to start, you know, in a
couple of minutes at sixth Eastern, and we're gonna get
the Wojes tweets as we do, the schefter tweets right
like so and so is signed with what so and so?

(27:49):
Like how do you know that already? Yeah? Everyone knows already,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah. How long once free agency begins? How long until
we have our first agreement? You know, are we talking already?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I guess we've already had players re signing to their
own teams. As far as actual new contracts, I would
say immediately, it's right six o'clock.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
What's the over under like five and a half minutes?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh well no, immediately right away? Yeah, right away?

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Yeah, okay, Paul George will have taken his meetings with
the Clippers Sixers in Magic within sixty seconds of free
agency opening.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Is this like a UFC thing, you know, when there's
a knockout in the first nineteen seconds or something like that?
Is that NBA free agency?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Do you know what I think? Do you know? I
think we'll have a deals done immediately No, I.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Think you might be right. I think you might be right,
But because it's happened before, Uh yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I think. I think we're going to immediately get to that.
We're going to get these WOJE bombs wherever you want
to use shams like, we're gonna get people signed sign
up already.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
By the way, Paul George, he's reportedly going to meet
with the Clippers, the Sixers, and Orlando supposed to meet
with the Magic. Do you think of Paul George maybe
with a Paolo Bancaro in company over there in Orlando?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Jay chasing a ring at this point doesn't feel like
a very ring chasing to me.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Orlando would not be ring chasing. Yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
But at this point it for no state tax.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, there you go. It's the no state tax contract,
right basically, Yeah, going to Orlando. Yeah. It's funny too
because Paul George and Klay Thompson are only a few
months apart in age. They're both thirty six years old,
and Clay he's a handful of months older. Doesn't Klay
Thompson feel way older than Paul George. Like my theory

(29:41):
is because Klay Thompson's been in the playoffs so often.
We've seen him in the playoffs a year after year
after year except this year, right, But uh, and I
think that when you've seen him win four championships and
go deep in the playoffs all those times, I think
he feels way older, yeah than Paul George doesn't need.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
To you, he does. Plus, I think his body kind
of wearing down a little bit more than you know then,
you know, Uh, I think players of the same age
a little bit. Right, He's injured and injured and things
like that that we look at and and maybe think
he's he's much older than he is. I mean the injury,
you know, the way we feel the injuries plays, I

(30:21):
think a big role.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
In that, right, Yeah, that that is in that's part
of it as well. But it's weird too because Clay
missed basically two full seasons with those injuries with the
al Yeah, and he still feels older to Maybe.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I'm curious about his landing spot because you know, he's
more of a three, right, like as far as your
third option, your third scoring option, and I need to
be pretty beneficial. He could just spot up and shoot
right as sort of to to a contender, like the
Lakers need someone Clay's not as goods used to be.

(30:58):
The Lakers deciminately need someone that just shoot the ball
in the corner.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah. Oh, if he could do that, if he could
be your just spot up and drain three's type guy, Yeah,
that could be a nice little role for him. So
I'm curious to see where he lands as well.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Is look, freidency is what. It's twenty two minutes away now,
so we'll see if who wins the wager, Brian, whether
or not you know I NBA very quickly, guys. Two
day draft, really is that something that we needed? Well?
That draft?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
My whole thing is, if you're gonna do two days, okay,
why the hell is the second day starting at four
pm Eastern time? Why that's one pm out west? People
are working, Like why would you have the draft on
during the middle of the work day. Put it in
primetime if you're gonna do it for two days?

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, it just made especially like this year, you're like, yeah,
one round is pretty much okay, We're okayeh, one round.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
But if there was ever a time where the second
round had something to look forward to, it was this
year with Bronnie James and you started at one pm
Pacific time. That just made no sense to me whatsoever
if you space it out. Okay, but like, think about
the NFL. They have rounds two and three on Friday,
and it's in primetime. They don't have it at one

(32:19):
pm Pacific time and it's the second round. It's just stupid.
NFL would never do something like that.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
They would never do something like that. So I was
surprised to see you that was a two day event.
And maybe but Bronnie was a pick to the end
of it either. It was just it just was sort
of like there. Yeah. I also I also read a
post like a like a draft grade sort of article Brian,
And Yeah, the person that I read it that they

(32:47):
had they they gave no grade lower than a B
minus for the entire NBA draft for all sixty picks,
which is just hilarious. Can you reach an NFL draft
and every draft pick was just a be a B
minus better, You'd be like, Ah, I'm not sure I
trust that person.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
It's like, there's so many international players. I think some
of that factors in where you're like, I'm supposed to
be doing these draft assessment grades and I just learned
of this dude last week. You know, I'm gonna go
be minus be minus sounds about. It's just a total
guessing game. You know, not even halfway familiar with some
of these dudes the NBA.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I think it's not a problem per se, but it's
it just it was a It's not good when the
best player in the in a draft or the number
one player drafted. Just no one's ever seen play like Wemby.
We saw like we've seen how it's Wenby for years.
Everyone knew who he is. You couldn't pick the top

(33:48):
two guys out of a lineup. I might actually get
pick Reed Shepherd out of a lineup unless you were like,
unless you were like like a savant of college basketball.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I doesn't feel good for you, doesn't feel good for
your I would go with the first half overs for
Kentucky's team total every now and then I knew Reed Shepherd.
I still can't pronounce the name of the dude who
went number one overall. That's insane. He's the number one
overall pick and most NBA fans can't pronounce his name.
That's crazy. All right, Coming up next, we've got drama here.

(34:20):
Jeff two stories, both involving high drama, one involving a theft,
one involving a contractual situation. We'll get to both of
those coming up. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now hang
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Speaker 1 (34:49):
It's Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. No
man before we get to ball here, so I'm live
betting the Oakland A's Jeff, you want to come on
board this one here?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Huh sure?

Speaker 7 (35:01):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
The screw Arizona?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
You know why?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Why is Arizona like minus two twenty five or what?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Like?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Why let's go with Oakland on the road here? But
I say, as soon as I was telling Bo and
Chris just a second ago off the year led Me's
das former Cardinals shortstop. He's now with Oakland. Jeff. His
batting average is one o seven. He's hitting one oh seven, dude, that.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Feels less than ideal. Not a baseball expert, but two
hundred typically is is a number you want to be.
There are many times that I need something to happen
in a baseball game positively for me. And I will
look up at the screen of the baseball game I'm

(35:50):
watching and the guy that's hitting that he based he
from his batting one fifty four in June, and you're like,
I just I wish it was better. I wish I
wish you would do better.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
I feel like we only need to apologize to Mario
Mendoza after seeing this.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
This guy's line fight.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, two hundred right, he's hitting one oh seven, Jeff,
and he flied out to right. He might be one
o six.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Now that is actually pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
It's like it's not true, just despicable. Yeah, Arizona. So
it's one one heading into the bottom of the seventh.
Arizona is minus two ten on the money line. You
can get Oakland at plus one sixty if you're feeling saucy. Now, warning,
fair warning, the bets lately have been freaking terrible today. Okay,
so yeah, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I'm actually adding up. I'm actually as in the breaks here.
You know, I keep my spreadsheet. I'm adding up. I
haven't done it for three days and I'm gonna. I'm
gonna it's been a bad It's not only great three days.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Oh man, we got a rally here.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Part of it is, you know, I fade the Marlins
every day and the Phillies have just been killing me. Man.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, but I did.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I did have a little, a little Phillies money line
today when they were losing. So I should have made
at a little bit back.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
But they were down big, they were down like six
to two.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I want to say I saw it for the month,
but I took a good hit. It took good hit
the last three days. Yeah, but that's that's gambling rights partan.
You have to stick with you if you if you
have like a method, you's gotta stick with it.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Absolutely you do. Okay, So the drama going on here
for a story, let's do it. JaMarcus Russell, Oh no,
I saw this. Yes, former number one overall pick. He's
been fired as a high school football coach. Why bad record? No.
He's accused Jeff of taking a seventy four thousand dollars
check that was meant as a donation. He's accused of

(37:39):
doing that. He's out of a gig as a high
school football coach is not yeah, not.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Not great, right, idea not ideal, not ideal. Look, he
should have enough money after his you know, even though
he wasn't a great career, he got he was the
old old system, right, Brian. He was getting a lot
of money back then, and it's unfortunate that he's got
a situation where he needs this money to, you know,
to essentially, I guess no survive paid bills. Less than ideal,

(38:08):
but not great to steal from your high school man.
But you're and coach.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, great, Like you said, that was before the rookie
wage scale. So he was drafted in seven, right, I believe,
and the rookie wage scale I think it kicked in
in twenty eleven.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, the twenty eleven CBA is when it started.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, that's when Cam Newton was the number one overall pick.
So yeah, JaMarcus got huge money. So to your point,
he shouldn't be in a position where he has to
steal money from its high school that he's coaching. That's
what he's accused of. The other drama here, the ongoing saga, Jeff,
can we please make it end? With forty nine ers

(38:45):
wide receiver Brandon Nayyuk. He is looking for a contract extension,
and it has just been drama, drama, drama, drama, drama.
It's the Niners are actively seeking a trade, and brand
Yuke like, wait a minute, I thought they weren't seeking
a trade. At some point, he's probably gonna get his

(39:06):
contract extension as a member of the Niners. That's what
I'm expecting. But we are taking the long scenic route
filled with drama on the way to that destination.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, you know, I uh, this is interesting to me,
and I don't know if you have enough time to
get into this now. I wonder if the Niners are
thicking to themselves. We can't pay everybody Block Pretty's up
for extension after this season, Trent Williams, the left tackles
getting paid, their tight ends getting paid, their running backs
getting paid, their other wide receivers getting paid. They have
guys some defense getting paid. They need to pay other

(39:37):
guys on defense, and maybe they're just like drawing the
line with like brand Ay, We're just drawing the line, buddy,
You're not getting Judge Jefferson deal, Like we just can't
swing that right now. You're just not getting I wonder
if if the line is being drawn right now with
their future and who they're willing to pay to keep
on the team, it could be.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
It could be. And that's what's interesting with these contracts
and nego sociations, is only a little bit of it
leaks out publicly, you know, a very little bit. But
that makes a lot of sense. We're only hearing from
Brandon Aiyuk when he's throwing stuff out there either on
ig his storylines going on, but we're not hearing from
the organization. The organization could be their position could be

(40:20):
exactly what you just explained, Like, bro, we got a
lot of players to pay, and we can't give you
top of the market level deal here. That's a reasonable position.
But they're not gonna state that publicly.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
The Niners have no reasons to negotiating public It's not
he's on the team no matter what this season if
he doesn't even like if he doesn't like it, he's
going to training campus for the team. So the Niners
just saying, hey man, we're just gonna stay out this.
We're not gonna get it to a pensing contest on
the internet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, that's a smart way to do it, all right,
coming up next, an interesting prediction about the top offenses
in the NFL this season. I've got a beef with
a couple of teams on the list. Oh, we got ball,
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stuff going on over here, Jeff Schwartz. We've got the Warriors.
They are waiving Chris Paul. He will be an unrestricted

(41:31):
free agent. And we also have the Beard, James Harden.
He plans to return to the Clippers to your deal
seventy million dollars?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Does this count as as do I win? The better?
You were talking about new We want new new teams
and new deals.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
We need a Yeah, we need a player going to
a new team team.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Okay, okay, yeah, but Heyklay Thompson signed, they will sign
and trade for Clay Thompson'll work with them to sign
and trade.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Now, that would be crazy if it's like a sign
and trade right here, they're.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Gonna work on a sign and trade option for him. Look,
Chris Paul's a fast I won't use Chris Paul with
this even like Kevin Durant and James Harden, Like, it's
it's fascinating to me how many teams these Hall of
famers are gonna end up playing on. Yeah, you just

(42:22):
don't see that happen in other sports where these legacy
Hall of famers and it looks it's not it happens.
You know, Jerry Rice and the Seahawks uniform is weird,
but that doesn't happen very often in like, you know
a lot of these sports where guys are playing four
or five six teams that are Hall of famers, And

(42:46):
Chris Paul has now been, off the top of my head, right,
he's been this is this fifth team? Is that right?

Speaker 1 (42:53):
So it's got to be in the neighborhood right where
he's Uh, well, you go through all of it with
and with the New Orleans, New.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Orleans Clippers, Yeah, Warriors, Warriors. Yeah, we're missing further missing one.
I mean, we should probably just look this up. But
like the point is, you know, it's just it's there's
it's just a lot of teams, superstars, these Hall of
famers have played on, right, Brian, And yeah, it's so unique.

(43:25):
It makes me and it's not probably fair.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
To them, but we forgot one Houston.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
You're right, Yeah, it does. See she's seven my math
right there. It does feel to me. And while these
players are Hall of famers and some of the best
to ever do, it, to me tarnishes their legacy a
little bit to play on so many teams because they're
not Look, Lebron's played on not only believe or not,

(43:52):
it's three teams, right, but he did. He went to
Cleveland twice.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
People always throw Lebron back at me, and okay, fine,
but Lebron, you know he was specifically going to win
championships in these places. I don't know if that's what
Chris Paul's exactly doing. I think maybe he thinks that
that's the case. But to me, to me personally, whether
it's right or wrong, feels a little wrong to feel
this way, But Briant does feel like a tarnishes their
legacy a little bit to plan so many teams just

(44:18):
sort of one year deals and not being able to
find a home at the end of your career. Uh,
maybe you don't feel that way, but it feels that
way to me. No, I hear you.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
It's I never really thought about it like that. But
when you look at Chris Paul, I think Chris Paul
and Kevin Durant both really odd career paths. Where if
you look at let's just start with Chris Paul, because
he was wighd by the Warriors, he's going to be
on another team, so Hornets, Clippers, Rockets, thunder Suns, Warriors,

(44:51):
and now another team that would be a seventh team,
assuming he goes to a team other than the six
he's played for before, right, you know, so seven teams
in his NBA career. I think with Chris Paul, it's
less about the movement and it's more about just hasn't
won a championship, and it's just it sucks to see
this end of his career because he was such a

(45:14):
special player and now he's just these are his final
days in the NBA, you know, and he's half the
player he used to be. With Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant
is one of the better players in the history of
the NBA and he's had just this odd career path
where we don't know if he's still going to remain
with the Suns or be on another team in this

(45:36):
next season. So that career path has been weird. Where look,
when he went to the Warriors and won those two championships,
he was out standing and no one cares. Nobody cares
because he joined the team that beat him and we
all know that. But these last couple of trips with Brooklyn,

(45:57):
with Phoenix, now maybe another team, that's where it gets
a little bit odd with KD. So I put it
that way where I don't know that I lose respect
for a great players career if they've moved around a
little bit more, but it feels a little bit odd,
feels a little bit different. But I would say for
Chris Paul and for KD, at least towards like the

(46:19):
recent years, a lot of a lot more movement for
top players than we're used to.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
For sure, What is the what's the NFL equivalent of
of Chris Paul? Like is it like what quarterback? Would
you say? As a man, Chris Paul?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
You need someone that's on his level, right, like as
good You're not gonna see a really good quarterback move around.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
That's my point. Like, what if Dak Prescott played on
six teams? You'd be like, oh, right, like that's that's weird, right,
Why why why can't you stick with the team? Why
is it what? And you would we would have many
many hours of debate. It's over Dak Prescott's personality traits
and why can't stick with the team. That's true And

(47:06):
in the NBA it feels very normalized now when again,
I mean, we didn't grow up with this. Obviously the
game is changing mightily. Since I'm not saying the game
should go back to the you know, the way it
used to be or whatnot, but it just it. It
does make me question players' careers when they're on their
seventh team and their first ballot Hall of Famers.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yeah, it'd be a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick played for
a ton of teams. But he's Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know
what I mean? Like, yeah, he's a journeyman, backup, spot
starter type guy. He's not, say like Matthew Stafford. Matthew
Stafford is a really good quarterback. And I would say
Chris paul Ish, right, Like Chris paul Ish in the NFL.

(47:49):
He's played for two teams like Lions and Rams.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
That's the resume. He's not gonna be on the Bengals
followed by the Browns following. It just doesn't happen in
the NFL with top quarterback.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
And some of that, by the way, is that the
NBA is when more prayer U prayer. It might be
prayer friendly, it's more player friendly, right, Like the players
are able to move a little bit more more freedom.
It's more accepted the player movement right in the NFL,
you know, just personally, and I look, I was on
four teams in four years. It's really hard to do that.

(48:22):
It's just it's mentally grinding, it's physically grinding you. It's
just a whole, you know, uproot of your life and routines.
It's hard to do that. And maybe the NBA is
just just more money. He's gotta be Chris Paul's leaving.
But can you get thirty million dollars from someone else?
Saw like he's gonna be Like I was getting minimum salary.
I'm not saying I was struggling for in life, but

(48:43):
it's a little bit different here in thirty million dollars
a year to play one year in a new city
versus getting you know, five fifty a year, right, So,
I don't know, I just don't know how they just
do it every year with continuing to move and change
and change locations and make new friends and meet new teammates.
And sure it's a lot of mercenary for higher and
sometimes that can be really difficult in these guys.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, And that's the thing, especially toward the end of
an NBA deal, That's where it differs in the NFL
is the guaranteed money. When Chris Paul signed a pretty
big contract extension with the Suns, that's where in the
later years of that deal, that's where you get all
the movement. That's where he's on like, you know, three
teams in three years, and where it gets kind of

(49:24):
goofy down the stretch where a player is getting paid
way more than he's producing and it just turns into
like a bargaining chip type contract. Yeah, that's where it's
different than the NFL for sure, because you just don't
get that type of guaranteed money, right like at the
end of a player's contract in the NFL. It's it's
just not like that it's front loaded.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Can Chris Paul help a team win a championship?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I mean it would have to be a star studded team.
At this point, he's just he's a role player. He's
not special, he's not close to dynamic. He's just. Yeah,
he's a guy that could get a couple of minutes,
you know, and uh you know, and he could be
in the rotation. But his body's betraying him.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
He betrays it.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, but for him especially, his body was betraying him
when he was younger. You know, it's just way worse now.
I it would have to be a star studied roster
for him to be on a playoff, to be on
a championship team. Man, they would have to be electric.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Really, Oh I have Oh we got one immediately, we
got a Looke Cornette signed with the Let's see, well
all those were turning in the Celtics. Ah man, although
here we go, wait, we might have one Richard or
free agent and to sign a four year deal stay
with the Lakers, Max Christie.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
See that's the thing with a movement.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I watch a lot of Lakers basketball. Yeah, a four year,
thirty two monar for Max Christie.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
You're not a Max christ.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Did he He must have been hurt in the postseason.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
He got a little bit of playing time, you know,
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I guess. Can he shoot the ball? We need the
Lakers people to shoot the basketball.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Let so let's check out Max Christie's stat line over here.
All right, let's uh, let's be accurate on this one.
So we got okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, he didn't play Algmans and Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
He played. He averaged fourteen minutes a night. He played
actually sixty seven games during the season. But not not
gaudy numbers. Jeff we averaged four point two points per
game this past season. So you know, backup guy.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
That feels like a nice good for him. Yeah, it's what.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
He's twenty years old. He's twenty one now, twenty one
years old, been in the league for two seasons. It's
a nice little I mean, his.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
His this year he played in zero playoffs. He played
zero the five games.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Well that's not it's not awesome right there, but uh still,
it gets thirty two mil with no playoff action.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Not bad. I need to play basketball, Ryan to late.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Yeah, I need to stop betting Oakland A's games. That's
the other thing. I need to stop doing Right after
I said that, they give up three runs in the
seventh inning, Jeff, not good. We're running we had right now.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
So we've had. You won the wager.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
We had.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
No one actually signed to a new team.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
That not yet. Yeah, I need some people.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
All people were turning Kevin Hart's I mean Kevin Hart,
Kevin loves here, turning to the Heat. Harden's going back
to the Clippers, yep, Max Christie is signing a deal
to Lakers.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah, need someone on the move.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Alex Lenz going back to the Kings. Everybody's all these
players are going back.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, it's it's not great right there.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
They also kind of word it a little bit different
than in the NFL deals, where in the NFL it's
an extension, and in the NBA it feels like they're
saying that they're they're they're like re signing players. Does
that make sense?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, right, it's just an extension. It's the same thing, but.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
They say the NFL makes it very clear like this
is an extension, an extension, Right, it feels like there's
a new here. It feels like they're they're they're labeling
a little differently.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah, Well, in any event. You know, I need we're
pro tampering on this show, right, So we wanted the
deal within five minutes of free agency beginning.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I'm surprised there's not more. I'm Malcolm, I'm quite quite
honest with you. I'm surprised there's not more. I missed
the days of Mark Cuban going to like DeAndre Jordan's
house and camping on to find.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Maybe they're wiser now, Jeff, maybe they're like, you know what,
let's wait fifteen minutes and then they won't suspect us
of tampering here when we sign a guy from a
different team.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Klay Thompson plans to have discussions with the Mavericks, Lakers, Clippers,
and seventy six sirs.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Okay, hmm, Mavericks. Let's write this down Mavericks, Mavericks, Lakers, Clippers.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yep, both LA and Silly.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Okay. What what's the ranking order? Who's closest to a championship?

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Dallas?

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Okay, so Dallas number one, followed by either Lakers, Clippers
or Philly. I mean, I go Philly.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I guess who would you who would you have in
the playoffs? Lebron or whatever? I mean I'd rather have.
If the Lakers are an Eastern conference, they make it
much deeper.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Right, That's what I'm saying. I like Philly in the
East more than the Lakers in the West.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Sure, I mean the Lakers are I'll tell you what, Man,
the draft pick, the kid from Tennessee, he is exactly
what they need. Like I think, get a middle of
exemption player. Lebron's healthy, a D's healthy, the middle of
exemption plus the draft pick. It's a It's not a
bad five, it's not bad, but.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Freaking loaded. Man, the West, it really is all right.
Coming up next, our guy, Adam Kaplan FSR NFL Insider
Inside the Birds Podcast. We got a lot of ball
to get to, so we will discuss with Adam. Coming
up next, he's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian Know. We're live
from the Tyreck dot Com studios here on Fox Sports Radio.

(55:27):
It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian Know.
Very pleased to welcome in Adam Kaplan FSR NFL Insider
Inside the Birds Podcast. You know we talked favorite beverages
last week, cap so I'm thinking of dinner time. Let's
go dinner time. Right here, you have one choice steak chicken.

(55:50):
What is the top shelf for you dinner wise? That
would put a smile on your face.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (55:55):
See it being that I'm a vegetarian, so I really
won't have any meat. But it also depends guys, what
I have in front of me in terms of work, Like,
for instance, I wanted to see the craziness of the
NBA Trade dayline. So I mean, it's just to be
the opening of free agency. So I said to my
wife is like, hey, I gotta be ready at six o'clock.
I want to see this. I'm just amazed at you
know what goes on with that. It's it's really different

(56:18):
than the NFL. And you know for a variety of
reads we could talk about. But in terms of food, yeah,
no meat. I'm a big salmon guy, big pasta guy,
but again no meat.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
I had no idea you're a vegetarian.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I have talked to the years. As matter of fact,
I was mentioned this before and then we talked to
him about something with like with throughout the fourth of
July and He's like, no meat for me. I was surprised.
But you lost a bunch of weight this way, right.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
Yeah, so I'm down like forty five since the pandemic started.
Started playing tennis, Say, I got up to two fifty Jeff,
and I was like, this is just gross. At my age,
this is not guy.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
It wasn't like a football player like yourself who could
probably hold the weight. So I was like, I got
to get in shape.

Speaker 8 (56:55):
And uh, yeah, I'm down about two weight two ten
something like that, and another ten pounds would be good.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
But as we get older, man, you really feel it.

Speaker 8 (57:05):
And I've learned that you don't really hold up physically
well if you don't, if you, if you, if you
can't make it easier on your bones, are.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
You gonna are we gonna hear? As training camp approaches
the next couple of weeks, Adam kaplan best shape of
his life story? Oh oh yeah that or you know.

Speaker 8 (57:23):
By the way, like be Ben Simmons, you know, you
see the videos of the guys in the off season.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Like it was funny, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I don't know if you did.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I don't know if you did this, but when you
were playing, but you.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
Notice like the quarterback will have his teammates out there
where he lives and they'll throw the ball and fans
go out of their minds sticking like this is some
kind of impact. I've talked to coaches about it. They go,
you know what, it's better than not doing anything, But
they say it don't. They generally say it's very little impact.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I have a hard take on this, Adam. Where our
job is to make sure that we can play football,
that basically means taking care of our bodies. I don't
think it's anything cool that we work out, like it's
our literal job, like to just work out two days,
two hours a day, do some rehab, and just don't
eat terribly so you're not fat and out of shape
and bloating, you know, Like it's like that to me

(58:11):
is not rising grind to work out, Like what like
what people have real jobs where they're like it's nine
to five jobs. I think it's so funny to know,
I get fans eat up and stuff. But I've never
been impressed when athletes post workout videos. That's that's our
our job is.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
It should be doing that right in all sports, by
the way, not just NBA or NFL. I mean what
I mean, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
So?

Speaker 8 (58:33):
Yeah, yeah, I now, But I will tell you when
I first started covering the league in two thousand from
a full time basis, players are still coming to training
camp to get in shape. Now that would change, but
it was still happening because I know, talking to a
lot of guys who play in the eighties and nineties,
you totally, oh, yeah, would come in in February, like

(58:54):
they can't. The offseason programs would start earlier February or March,
whereas we start now around middle of April. It's really
it's really funny how that works. And you cannot no more,
no longer. Could you just come in and show up
in April and not be in shape.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I h fault up on that. Like when I got
an NFL we were in the middle of March. Was
when we came back, right, so we was pre to
and yeah, we we came back. I used to stay
in Charlotte to work out our Our strength coach was like, yeah,
like we're like just run a little bit lightlifting, like
we'll start in March. Like you don't have to show
up in shape now. If you don't show up in shape,
you're looked at in negatively, right, like you didn't do

(59:32):
the job in the off season. Adam if the nfl
PA NFL approved this new offseason, which I think is
just atrocious planning by the players. Does this help the game?
I know players want to win quote unquote win. I
think it's a terrible idea. I don't think players agree
with that. I don't think the report is accurate. What's

(59:54):
your take on this report a couple of weeks ago
that the nfl PA and NFL might modify the off
seasons the program right.

Speaker 8 (59:58):
By the way, the report from NFL Network, it's that
the NFLPA is going to submit this proposal.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Like as you know Jeff in the eleven CBA.

Speaker 8 (01:00:06):
This is when this all started, when players made it
clear they don't want the coaches to work them in
January and February, March, April. They gotta wait now if
we don't have Junota. See here's there are a couple
things which we didn't talk about the last time we
talked about this on FSR. First of all, I get

(01:00:26):
if you don't have OTAs, you got to figure out
what the workout bonus is going to be like, because
a lot of veterans have workoup bonuses, and some, by
the way, aren't like an a grand Some are like
a million, two million, three million. That stuff means something.
I'm interested to see how that would work. But if
this passes, there's no off season, you show up in July.
Now that what I understand is also i'd looked into this,

(01:00:48):
there still would be a five day acclamation period.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
So here's what that means.

Speaker 8 (01:00:53):
The NFL and their health and safety people found that
a lot of the soft tissue stuff happens very early
in training camp because if you're if you haven't done
much or you've been away for six to seven weeks,
and you start ramping it up immediately, it's hard for
your body to adjust. So they found if you wait

(01:01:14):
five days and are very light in training camp, they're
less strains. The data that they've shown me completely backs
us up that would have to happen. If this ever passes,
you still have to have that. So you're looking at
maybe possibly Jeff. You know, if you want to know
who's going to be winning jobs and so forth, it's
still going to be mid July and you won't know.
We talked about this last time on FSR. We discuss

(01:01:37):
this situation if they don't have access to the players
in February March April and May if you don't have
to show up and June. By the way, you have
no idea what kind of shift these guys are in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
He's Adam Kaplan FSR NFL insider here on Fox Sports Radio.
Who do you think gets a contract extension first cap?
Would you go to a tongue of Iiloa or would
you go with Brandon ny Yuk with the Niners or
somebody else there with Ayuk?

Speaker 8 (01:02:06):
It's kind of interesting. So the Niners they won him back.
I mean, he's under contract, he's on a fifth year option.
The problem is at Sea they were unable to get
this deal done in March, and then aj Brown got
thirty two million a year. That didn't help, and Ceedee
Lamb is going to get his should be get done
before training camp justin Jefferson gets you know, thirty five

(01:02:27):
plus a year. That's actually like defensive end money, edge
rusher money. And the Niners that see, My understanding is this,
it's not that they don't want to extend. They think
he's a great player, it's he'll never be able to
put up a hundred catches the season, one hundred and
ten because of Deebo Samuel, because of George Kittle because
of Christian McCaffery. Oh, by the way, they just paid

(01:02:49):
Juwan Jennings their third receiver. Oh, by the way, they
just drafted receiver in the first round. That surprised a
lot of people. Ricky Piersoll, they can't justify giving them
thirty two plus million a year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
They're not there yet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I I get that. Now.

Speaker 8 (01:03:01):
I'll tell you what if Brandon Ayuk is with the Bills.
He's catching and hundred and ten past this season, but
right now they don't want to trade him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
There's reports that the Dolphins want to give to a
tongue of I Low a fair market deal. Well, the
fair market deal is just the next deal. Is this
a sign that Dolphins are not totally sold on paying
to the next deal, right, the next deal after what
you know what Trevor Lawrence got from Jacksonville.

Speaker 8 (01:03:27):
Yeah, but I would also tell you I don't think
there were Jared goff Is yet. Jared Goff got a
very good extension. Fact, his mega deal with the Rams
was kind of historic, by the way, in structure, and
if you look at this one fifty three million a year,
I don't get the feeling I get is they'd like
to be around around where Jalen Hurts is fifty one
million a year. The guarantee structure is very team friendly.

(01:03:50):
Of course, it depends how the player plays. But you know,
on the surface, the Eagles felt they did well with
that with that Jalen Hurts extension. They're not there yet,
but Jeff, as you know as a former player, teams
will not show their hand for the most part on
the mega mega deals where you see all the other
deals out there that are done until there's a deadline.

(01:04:11):
Well the deadline. Obviously they won't come out and say it,
but we know it is start a training camp. It's not,
by the way, when the players report, it's the first
day of practice. That's the way the contracting coacheators want
look at it, and so do coaches and front offs
people general managers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
So the two of one look again. He's also in
his fifth year option.

Speaker 8 (01:04:30):
He's playing for the Dolphins this season and for the
Dolphin fans who don't want them to extend him at
past the season.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
I always ask you this question, what's your recourse? Who
else is out there?

Speaker 8 (01:04:41):
Well, there's no one else out there now the Dak
Prescott deal because the Cowboys have waited. It's going to
surpass my number fifty seven million. It could be fifty
seven to sixty million, folks, if for some reason the
Cowboys cave and get this deal done.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
I'm curious what you thought about the NFL having to
pay back four point seven dollars in the Sunday ticket case.
What's your reaction to all that?

Speaker 8 (01:05:04):
Yeah, so really, what this is is this actually started
nine ten years ago for the class action suit. So
it's behalf of bars, establishments, restaurants, and fans.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
See.

Speaker 8 (01:05:17):
First of all, from a fan standpoint, you'd rather just
al Carter. Why do you have to if you're an out,
If you're a fan that's out of town, right, if
you're from Pittsburgh but you live in Los Angeles, you
only want to you only want to see the Steelers.
You don't want every game. You don't want all sixteen games,
or you know you with the National TV games, you're
you're you're looking more like thirteen or twelve games. But

(01:05:38):
you don't want to pay for the whole package. You
want to spend three fifty to four hundred. You'd rather
just pay each week. Let's say it's ten dollars a game,
right per week.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
That's what you want.

Speaker 8 (01:05:49):
And plus, if you're a Steelers friend, you know they're
gonna be a national TV and this is just not
And by the way, it's not just four point seven billion.
With anti trust, you're looking at more than double that,
more than double that. So this is going to cost
the league. I know they're gonna I know they're appealing appeals.
By the way, it could be months, if not years.

(01:06:10):
And by the way, you could also sign up if
you want to get part of the class action. I've
been part of a couple of class actions over the
years of like the fifty that I've gotten, you know,
with with products and appliances and so forth. I trant
to just throw them out of a couple, I actually
fill out the stuff. You might you might get fifty
seventy five hundred bucks. I mean you have to have
you have to have documentation though, which is what I
learned the hard way.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Have I suddenly I think since two thousand and eight,
so I probably.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
I just love it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
But still the problem is I didn't want the dish,
and that was the other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
I mean, I still have it now. I mean I'm
a huge fan of it, and I understand that people
might just want to walk to their team. That's it
out of market and no one else. And so I'm curious,
you know, to see if the NFL adjustice. I wonder
if that And also to the last part of this
too is if this deal gets adjusted, that affects a
salary cap, right, because the revenue from a TV deal

(01:07:02):
would have to be adjusted.

Speaker 8 (01:07:03):
For Well, the this this the abdruction V deals not
but the networks is so it's they're they're they're a
little different.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
But this thing, I'm fascinated to see what the league does.

Speaker 8 (01:07:19):
Let's say they want to pay up four point seven
billion and that's what they had number it stays there
and they pay that over series of years, how are
they going to make that money up? You know, And
I know, it's amazing. They could sell just about anything.
It's pretty remarkable how they make money. But that's that's
a pretty big it's a pretty big chunk, and it
would be divided up for teams that they have to pay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
It's pretty interesting. You could buy a lot of salmon
and a lot of pasta. With that. Yeah, I know,
I know, a lifetime supply, but hey, man. Always good
catching up with the cap. I'll have a good evening man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Oh god, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
There he is Adam Kaplan FSR NFL Insider Inside the
Birds podcast. Hey, we've got Martin Weiss on with this
this evening slash afternoon, depending on where you're listening, Martin,
what's going on, buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Not not much.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
Max Christie signed four year, thirty two million dollar deal
stay with the Lakers.

Speaker 6 (01:08:07):
We'll see if he can get on the floor more.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
But really, the big news in free agency James Harden's
planning to sign a two year, seventy million dollar contract
to return to the Clippers. Second year will be a
player option and things will look much different in the
Bay Area. The Warriors wave point guard Chris Paul he
had thirty million dollars guaranteed due today if he had
remained on the roster, and Sham Sharani and others reporting

(01:08:30):
that Golden State is working through signage trade options for
Klay Thompson, so they will be breaking up the Splash
Brothers by You know, we'll see if it actually happened
when it happens, but they looks like Clay Thompson and
Steph Curry that partnership will be broken up.

Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
Kevin Love returning to the Heat on a two year,
eight million dollar deal.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
In the WNBA, the Fever beat the Mercury eighty eight
to eighty two, Kitlen Clark fifteen nine to twelve. Links
beat the Sky seventy to sixty two, with Angel Reese
making history for most consecutive double doubles in a season
that record ten. She finished with ten points and seventeen rebounds.
Round the sixteen is kicked off at Euro twenty twenty four.
England beat Slovakia two to one. Spain beat Georgia four

(01:09:10):
to one. Baseball's wrapped, just wrapped up there. The Athletics lost,
unfortunately to the Diamondbacks four to one. Sorry about your
bet there, Brian, still on the range today. I guess
that's why they were minus two twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
But as soon as you like, all right, I'm going
with minus two twenty five. It's almost a sure thing. Nope,
underdog time, baby, you know. So it always keeps you guessing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Like you said, if you want to have a miserable day,
you know, open up the sports book. Rain delay in
the bottom of the ninth still for the Mets and
the Astros bottom of the ninth in LA, the Tigers
leading the Angels seven to one, top of the eighth,
Minnesota with a five to three lead over Seattle. Games
that have already wrapped up the ASH. I mean, the
Rockies beat the White Sox five to four and thirteen innings.

(01:09:56):
Pirates avoid this sweet beat the Braves four to two,
Phillies over the Marlin seven to six. Red Sox outscored
the Padres four to one. Rafael Devers with the two
run homer. Yankees beat the Blue Jays eight to one.
Aaron Judge with his thirty first homer of the year.
He had a two run bomb in the first inning.
Ray shout out the Nationals five to nothing, Brewers over
Cubs seven to one, Bryce Terraine with a grand slam,

(01:10:18):
Royals over Guardians six to two, who also sat down
Tristan McKenzie to their minor league system, and the Cardinals
beat the Reds two to nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:10:27):
Jeff and Brian back to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Thanks Martin. It is Fox Sports Radio here. Jeff Schwartz,
Brian know with you that is pretty wild what we
were talking about with Cap right there, This class action
lossuit and the NFL ordered to pay four point seven
billion dollars in this Sunday Ticket anti trust suit. And
that's the wild thing. Jeff is, like Capp said, they're

(01:10:51):
appealing this, so who knows when they'd actually have to
pay up. But this goes back to they just jacked
up the right. There was a proposal from ESPN that
would have lowered the cost of Sunday Ticket to seventy
dollars per year, and right now the current package costs

(01:11:12):
three hundred and forty nine dollars annually, so it's basically
five times the price it could be. It did, so
the NFL got dinged for that, and they're gonna appeal
and then reappeal and then reappeal the reappeal and who
knows where this ends up, but it looks like they're
gonna have to pay at some point because they have
jacked up the price so much on this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Yeah. I've enjoyed some Night ticket for the years I've
used it. I have it on on YouTube, you know
TV now, But it is very expensive. Yeah, even this year.
I mean it's like five hundred bucks if you include
you know, you want red Zone channel and all that stuff.

(01:11:55):
Like it's expensive. I think obviously, you know, no one
else been able to bid on. They just give it
a DirecTV and made it expensive. I understand, I do.
I watch all the football games for my job, but
just I enjoy watching football. But I understand if you're
just a fan of the Chiefs, and that's a bad
example because the Chiefs games are always on TV. You're
a fan, I hear of the Panthers in Carolina, could

(01:12:15):
be okay. In Iowa. You're a Panthers fan and you
just want to watch Panthers games. There should be options
to just buy Panthers.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Games, right, I agree with that. I also like, you know,
buying in bulk, because I would spend way more than
three hundred and fifty bucks annually if I had to
pay ten dollars every time I watched, you know, an
out of market game. I'm trying to see all these games,
you know, I want to see everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Well, me and you were different because we we we
would buy this package. Just hope you'll hope. Obviously it's
less expensive. But like my parents, I was talking about
this the other day, Like my dad is a Niners fan,
and he were watching the Chiefs. Mostly he watches the
national games too, but he just wants every He's an
interest in the Chargers and Rams in Los Angeles. He's

(01:13:02):
wing for Niners in Chiefs. He would much rather pay
just watch those two teams all year then pay for
the full Sunday ticket package.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Yeah right, And if you had that option, that's cool,
that makes sense. I would just hope that if that
option does exist, that the buying and bulk option also would.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Exist, correct, because we look for me and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
You, Yeah, because that would if it's like ten dollars
for every game, I'd be like, oh gosh, it's going
to cost seven thousand dollars to watch NFL games.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Impossible. I mean, how could you watch Witching Hour with
eight Wedgers on the line the last fifteen minutes of
the early games without having that eight bucks on direct tam?

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Yeah right, you gotta have that going all right? Coming
up next, we get to it. There was a prediction
of the top ten scoring offenses this season, and Jeff
and I have to weigh in on this.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Love.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
It's the season of lists, you know, and it's never
I like what this guy said about number three. It's
what the hell is he thinking with number eight? You know,
that's the way we do it here, so we'll do
that right around the quarter. Yeah, it's more fun that way.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian Know. We're live from the
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is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian Know.
So I ran across a column on NFL dot Com. Jeff,
it's an NFL writer. I'm not I might butcher this
guy's name, but it looks like Gennaro Felice possibly probably
a very nice guy. But he predicted what will be

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the top ten scoring offenses in the NFL this season. Okay,
so I'll go through the top ten real fast. What
he's predicting, so scoring offenses this season? Niners number one?
Raise your hand if there's like instantaneous beef over here, Jeff, Right, okay,

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you're okay with the number one? Sure, Okay, all right?
Chiefs two?

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
The way we're three last year?

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Yeah, who was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Last year?

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Okay? So first is yea within the realm of possibility,
So we go Niners one, followed by Chiefs, Lions, Rams,
and Bengals would be the top five.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Chiefs feel high, A little high, little high Okay, we're
not top ten last year, that's crazy. We top ten
this year. But probably I would imagine they're better, but
not two.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Yeah, that's a fair assessment, right, because what did they
pick up? They got the rookie Xavi you' worthy, but
you know they didn't make a trade for Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Someone like I really think that Rashie Rice is going
to be suspended at some point this season. Travis Kelsey
is at the point now where it's a pitch count,
you know, like it's just making sure that we get
into the end of the season. And really the Chiefs,
I don't remember the Patriots being this way. Certainly I
was playing during this time, but I don't remember the

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Patriots feeling quite as like, just get to the postseason
and will win it all. Yeah, where because the Patriots
notoriously started slow in September, you know, they picked up
steam and sort of got better by Thanksgiving, Right that
was the time they wanted to dial in. Because what
the Chiefs did last year, man, it's just like just

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oh you do is get there? Just just get to
the postseason. So two feels higher for them. I think
they're back in the top ten this year.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, no, that's fair. I think that all makes sense
to round it out six through ten again. Prediction of
the top ten scoring offenses this season. Dolphins sixth, followed
by Packers, Bills, Texans, and Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Yeah, well, I guess Rams or they were eight last year,
probably better. You know, Cooper cup healthier, right, Yeah, it's
on jelling. The Bengals at five sort of the fuels
high after a down year last year, but obviously no

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Burrow last year, and when Burrow was cooking, they were scoring.
But okay, that makes sense, Miami six, that certainly fits. Well. Yeah,
do you start having the beef at seven with the Packers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
My beef is more so at eight and ten. I
look at the Bills and the Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
The Colts being up here is just is just fantasy land.
Right now. We don't know anything about Richardson through a
whole season.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
That's right. Anthony Richardson my best guess what type of
season he's gonna have. I think it's gonna be up
and down. I think he's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
This the first year playing yeah, right, game last year, right,
and he.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Didn't play that much in college either. I think that
he's gonna have some games where he's gonna make some
throws or some plays, and he's gonna have some performances
where you're like, what that was unbelievable, And then the
next game he's gonna complete like nine of twenty two
passes with two picks and a fumble, and you're like,
what the hell was that. I think he's gonna have

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that type of season.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
He should. I mean, I think he can have a
chance to be really good, but last year he didn't
play a lot like he's basically have his work season
all over again.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Yeah. Right, That's why I think to have the If
the Colts are a top ten scoring offense, I will
be really impressed. But I don't think that's happening. I
also don't think the Bills are gonna be up there.
Like Josh Allen is a special talent. We all know that,
but he has one wide receiver returning who's caught a

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pass from him. That one guy he's got, Khalil Shakir,
and that's it. Nobody else. So when you lose to
Von Diggs and I don't know that the offense is
gonna be humming to the tune of a top ten
scoring offense, do you see that happening?

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Probably, I don't know. It's tough to count Josh Allen. Allen,
I'm just sort of looking at like total touchdowns here
from last season, So like the Cults were total touchdowns,
this counts off of the defense. Colts were eleven. I mean, right,
I guess we might have been wrong about them. I mean,
I think the Bills can be top ten in total

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off of the touchdowns scored.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
No, they could be. They drafted Keon Coleman from Florida State, Right,
so let's say he hits the ground running as a
rookie wide receiver. It's happened before, could happened with Josh
Allen the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Dolphin at sixty one total touchdowns last season, how many
the Jets had do you think on offense?

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Oh gosh, if they'd probably be in the thirties, twenty two,
not even in the third. Wow, that's terrible. That's what
happens when Aaron Rodgers plays four plays.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Yeah great, I am surprised that Jets on this list
are fifteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Oh interesting, huh. I think they're gonna be a lot higher.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
People around them. Yeah, I buy it, man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
I think that Aaron Rodgers with the real defense and
that offense. Man like Garrett Wilson is a really good
wide receiver, and then you match him up with you
got a couple of playmakers over there where you bring
in Mike Williams. I think Malachai Corley, he's Deebo Samuel Ish.

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I think that he could be a really interesting player
with the Jets. And Tyler Conklin is a solid tight end.
He's very underrated. Aaron we're talking Aaron Rodgers here. I
think they're still gas in the tank. They're gonna be
much better than last year, like Worlds have to be.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
The only the only thing I'll bring up is that
we have not seen a player at this age come
back from this injury. And I'm just I think there's
it's okay to have a little trepidation on how that
might go.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Yeah, yeah, hey, that's fair, that's fair. I also look
at the style of his game, you know, and I
think his game translates to old pretty well. Hey, Jeff
the ball buffet, it's not over yet. We still have
plenty more plus free agency news. Oh, good afternoon, nostalgia.

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In a minute.

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the Splash Brothers looks like they are no more. Klay

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Thompson is leaving the Warriors. Warriors trying to work out
a sign and trade deal for Clay, and I'm curious
how you feel about this. To me, I don't think
nostalgia gets you anywhere, and I actually applaud the Warriors.
The arrow was pointing down. They were in tenth place
in the West last season. They didn't even make the playoffs.

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They got the Kings, So why would you bring back Clay?
As if what what's going to change? What's going to
be better? We're keeping the band together and what we're
gonna get our teeth kicked in for most of the season.
You got to change it up and be viable, be relevant.
So to try to build around Steph Curry and go
in a different direction, I think that's the only way
you could approach this going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
I'm surprised they didn't do it earlier. Quite honestly, I
think after last year we made the case that him
and Draymond it kind of kind of time to move on.
But I appreciate them doing it better, better late than ever, right,
I mean, it had to be done. They had to
move on. There was no really other way to approach
next season in the years moving forward, because again, your

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job is to rebuild that team, and you have to
rebuild it around Curry, who is most capable right now
of helping you win. And it makes no sense for
them to want to do this. The best teams are adaptable, right,
the best teams are able to mold themselves and you know,
be pliable, be flexible. And so I plowed the Warriors

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for doing this, But they also made it easy because
Clay just isn't the same player anymore, and they weren't
a good team last season, and so you look at
that in the mirror and think to yourself, Okay, what
do we have to do next. I think it's even
it's tougher if they were like the sixth place team
in the West, you know, or you know, seventh place.
They made the playing tournament, and you know, and got
out in two games. Right, Like that to me feels

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a tougherness. They want to roll back, and just rolled
back with the same team. Finishing tenth makes this pretty easy, right, Brian, Like,
it's over now. We've had our four championships, we've had
our winning, we've had our run, we've had this, you
know this, this Hall of Fame do it together. It's
now time to break it up and move a different direction.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Yeah. By the way, I just looked up Clay Thompson
on Pro Football Reference. That doesn't work out, right, You got.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
To go two years. It's it's always a ball buffet
and your brain it's always ready for ball, right for football.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Yeah, but that's an interesting point that they hadn't done
it earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
I thought they were gonna do it laughter last season. Yeah,
I thought that was time. Everyone was older, you know,
the Draymond thing. I thought he was gone just because
of well, I guess the judge him with with Jordan
Pool in the end, right, So that makes a global
sense that I just thought it was sort of it
was what happens with him now? Is he is he
staying or going? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
He could be going as well. I'm not sure if
he'll be back or not. But Clay on his way out.
But I like that take because so they won the finals,
they beat Boston two seasons ago, right, so twenty two.
Then last season they took a step back, right, they
were forty four and thirty eighth. They lost to They
lost them the semi finals in that season. I lost

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the Dakers, right, I think they were last year.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Oh it was the Lakers. Yeah, it t years ago. Yeah,
I mean it was like two years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
So yeah, like the era was pointed down heading into
last season. I think two seasons ago that's when they
lost all those games on the road. Remember they couldn't
win on the road at all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
And they was talking about like chemistry being the reason why.
Right this, Yeah, the wasn't great.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
But that's a good point by you because I think, look,
if this was a Patriot situation, they would have moved
off of Klay Thompson heading into last season, not heading
into this.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
I mean they might have moved off him after the championship.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
They might have been right, if anybody were to do it,
it might have been them, But certainly after two seasons ago,
right where they lost all those road games, they would
have moved off of them then, and now you see
how the last season played out, you're in tenth place.
You know, there's a reason why Bob Myers, the former GM,
was like, you know what, I'm gonna go do TV

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like he knew what was going on there. Right, it
was not a roster that with the arrow pointed up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
No, And you know that becomes sort of like the
long build, right. I mean, I don't know, Steph Curry
Loan's not going to win HI any championships. I wonder
at some point if Steph kind of back to the
Chris Paul discussion where we've had the superstar players just
decide to sort of string their careers out. Stuff. Doesn't
feel like that guy. I mean, maybe one maybe one
other team, you know, like, okay, I want to a

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winning team wants a trade for me, I'll give it
one more go to win a championship. But it doesn't
feel like Steph is going to stick around and play
with three four five teams just to keep playing basketball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
I'm curious what happens with Steph because he's still playing
at a really high level. He's not getting any younger,
He's he's getting longer in the tooth right. He's thirty
four years old right now, but he still has a
couple more special seasons in him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
He can shoot, he could, he could do the PG
in Washington, main shoot threes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
He really can stay viable for a long time. His
game translates to old very well. He's not this dude
that relies on sheer athleticism. He could just be a marksman.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Yeah, you know what I'm thinking. I'm thinking that he
should go with the mid level exemption of the Lakers.
That makes the most sense to me, is that what
that's the route right there that still has a a
good you know, put him in, you know, put him
in the corner, put him at the wing, let Lebron
do a lot of the damage. But then in the end,
you know, like we got stuff there to put up,
you know, twenty five to thirty at nights.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
I would love to hear the conversations if a couple
of superstars did that. They're like, you know what, man,
the hell with it. We've made so much money, Let's
just go super cheap with our contracts. You know, let's
just align forces and win a title. I really wonder
what the conversations would be like. If that, can we
just have that Kevin Durant, Well, yes, right, yeah, but

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I'm talking about like Steph and Lebron, you know what
I mean, Like that type of thing. KD was different
because he was still getting paid. I'm talking about just
taking a cheap, cheap deal.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
So like so like Steph, Lebron, yeah, Chris Paul, they
just all get together and like, yeah, just form this
old super team.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Right, yes, let's get the band together. We'll take all
these deals on thee and let's just win a ring.
You're right, Like with Lebron specifically, the conversations would be
pretty interesting. But if the dynamic was Lebron and Steph,
Steph is more popular, He's not as polarizing. There aren't
as many haters with Steph, not even close compared to Lebron.

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So if they they teamed up. I know this is
fantasy Ville type stuff, but I would love to hear
those debates play out. It's not gonna happen, but no,
it would.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
It would certainly hurt. I think Steph's legacy more than
Lebron's in that sense, because we've ever had to talk
about that with Steph. I mean, KD went went to
him to win a championship. Yeah right, Steph didn't go
to KD. And then with you know, with with Lebron,
I mean he teamed up Miami and worked for for
two titles, came back and won the one in Cleveland,

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and then obviously won the one in Los Angeles. It
would certainly tarnish Steph's legacy more than Lebron did. They
teamed up the ombook. This is obviously a pipe dream.
I don't think's actually not right, but it would be.
It would be interesting, right if Steph was like, you
know what, get rid of me too. I want to
go somewhere to win last couple of years because the
Warriors an't gonna win anything. Just that the Lakers are

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not close. The Warriors aren't close either.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
You know what's weird to me, Jeff, is something that
actually did play out where KD joined the Warriors, and
we know how that worked out, where KD got vilified
for that, and I get it right, he joined the
Warriors who beat him in the playoffs this season prior,
and they had won seventy three games and it was

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front running at its best. But the point is this,
all of the negativity was with KD all of it.
But there's something weird to me with say Steph Curry,
where he's in the Hamptons and he's pitching KD, like, hey,
come join our team, right, like you had the Hamptons

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five you had. I think you had both all like
the Big Three you had play Steph, you had Draymond.
I think Iguadala was there to pitch KD. Whoever's there
is the Hamptons five. They're pitching this guy no negativity.
I find that to be weird, right, Like, you're right,
it's the player who joins the team is vilified. But

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the players who are on the team, who have the
sales pitch, who have like the Excel spreadsheet presentation, come
join us, no negativity whatsoever. I find that very strange.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Well, they'd want already, right, so they didn't. They're not
getting the same negativity as the player they had it
won already, and that they had just be Kevin Durant too, Right,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
But it's like, if you guys are so bad and
so good, why do you need to pitch a superstar
to join you? Like, aren't you good enough on your
own without k D? Why are you given the sales pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Well, they're not going to turn that down though. If
he wants to go play with them, sure, But.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
There you understand what I'm saying. They're pitching him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
I just find that interesting with the player joining the
team crushed villified, but the players already on the team
that are pitching the superstar. Hey, joy, not us. We'd
love to have you. No negativity whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Look, when Kevin Durant is at his Hall of Fame induction,
no one's going to give a rip that he went
to the Warriors and won championships. You like that. That's
that's something that is a social media things. No one's
gonna be up there and be like, oh, that guy
not Hall of Famer, went to play with the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
I mean, look, it doesn't in the end, it doesn't matter.
It's a social media thing where we were we we
attack him for that. I actually think that if I think,
you know, Katie has certainly embraced this role now, but
for a while, he was you know KD Berner, right,
you going on on on social media with a burner account,
and I think people that coupled with the idea that
he was teaming up with the Warriors. Both those things

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played a role in the social media backlash. Again, we're
talking about a lot of times what happened on social media,
not what happened in like society. Right, If Kat was
not doing the social media thing, I feel like we
feel differently about him in that moment. I think that
was all a part of the the reaction to what
Kevin Durant did there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Yeah, interesting stuff, nevertheless, But no Chris Paul either. He
was waived by the Warriors. He'll be an unrestricted free agent.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
That never made sense. I want to again, I don't.
I don't know what Chris Paul, what value he brings
to a championship team at the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
It's certainly a lot of experience. If you've got like
a younger point guard something like that, maybe he's going
to get some minutes out there, but his body's going
to betray him at some point. I hate that because
he is such a special player. But look, man, a
golf thing. This is not just the back nine, it's

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the next step of that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Where he is in his other time is undefeated.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
Buddy, that's it. But I like the point that you made.
If you compare just those two players Chris Paul and
Steph Curry just the way Steph's game is, right, Like,
how long is he gonna last in the NBA if
he wants to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Till forty if he wants to play until forty two,
I mean, just he can again, Like we joked a
lot during the playoffs because we were on PGA Washington
a bunch for the for the MAVs. I mean, he
literally just stood in the corner a lot of times,
just made corner threes. Boston, by the way, to give
him their credit, they took that away from the mass
from most of that series, right, they had to move

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to the wings to shoot threes. Stephan just stand there
in the corner for the rest of his career.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
We really could and just knock down Jays. Yeah, you know,
I want to see what his supporting cast is gonna
be with the Warriors this next season, because I give
him credit, they're trying, but is it gonna be good
enough where you're like, hey man, they could actually make
some noise in the West. They're gonna have to do
a lot to be able to do something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
The Internet is telling me, Brian, there's some Russell Westbrooks
and Nuggets connection happening possibly, which okay, sure, m.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Eh. I mean, like, think about this, So you have
Jamal Murray and Jokich. So Jamal is a very good shooter,
and you would have Westbrook as you know, the guy
off the bench, high energy. If he can attack the rim,
he can do that, no problem. If you have him
like with the Lakers, and you're gonna be a two guard,

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we're gonna need you to shoot threes. But that's not
what he does at all. So could he fit in
a little bit with those guys. Yeah, I could see
him potentially fitting in with that. I just don't like
how Westbrook's reputation A lot of people make him sound
like he's just the worst basketball player ever. It's no,
he just has to have the right role. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
It's also just I think nowadays we are so focused
on the three point shot that you know, we don't
give credit for the energy and hustle he brings it.
I think Westbrook has gotten a little bit of a
bad teammate rap, but doesn't actually feel like that's the case. Right,
didn't feel that way. I mean he doesn't. He didn't
feel that way. So yeah, I'm curious where he goes

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look at this point in his career, and then the
energy off the bench is can be hugely important to
a champion ofcopy. He's also chasing the championship too, right,
I don't think he's won a championship, so it's trying
to find a place to give it himself a ring
down the stretch because I look at this point in
a lot of these guys' careers. Yeah, money is great
in all and they signed for the money, but a
lot of them signed for the chance to chase the ring.
I never won a ring. I'd love to have won

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a ring. Man be awesome. So I think guys rightly
make the decision to go chase that ring late in
their career.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
I'd love to see him win one. For a guy
who's been he had just criticized as much as he
has throughout his career, I'd love.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Especially if he was a helpful in winning the championship,
right like being part of a championship winning team.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Did you see last week that the under twenty American
football team lost to Japan by like three touchdowns?

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
No? I didn't see that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Yeah, they lost it to uh to uh who they
lose to to Austria, and we have a problem in
our hands with our twenty under football team, American football team.
What is happened? Why are we losing Austria and to Japan.

Speaker 9 (01:36:12):
Who's on our under twenty football team doesn't matter, doesn't matter,
that doesn't It's gonna be it. It's gonna be the
dream team next year. We'renna have all the five star
kids in high school gonna be on this team. So
we don't get we don't care. Butt swooped.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Yeah, well that'd be My first question is who the
hell is on this team? You know, because it could
be if like they'll put it this way in the Olympics,
if this is our our Olympic basketball team, you know
what I mean? And instead of having some of the
best players in the NBA, you have like some secondary
players in college.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Did this happen in nineteen ninety eight and nineteen eighty eight,
It's why we got the dream team next time?

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
That's right, That's what I'm saying. Right, if this is
the equivalent of that, it's like, these are this like
our fourth, fifth, sixth stringers compared to what it could be, Right, I.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Still think we should It's one of us we should own.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
That sport like at all times.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
At all times, yeah, dominates. It's not like other leagues
that have like you know, we like we have NBA, right,
which is the number one pro basket league, but it's
not but Europe has like the second pro basketball league.
It's not like there's like when we're get we get
players from that league that do well the NBA. There's
not like a secondary football league in another country. Yeah, like, yeah,
Japan's football, sure, I know, my buddy mine went to

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Germany to do some clinics, Like, yeah, they have football there.
It's not like there's a second league in Europe that
dominates and we get a bunch of players from there
like NBA Europe. Not NBA Europe exactly. But you know,
but you know, it's not like soccer right where our
best players actually go to Europe to play most of
the year. There's there's no secondary league. So we're getting
our butts kicked by nations that don't even have like

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professional football.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
I just love that this is what you're ticked off about.
This is beautiful right here. I need to see the
under twenty under football team.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
I need to get to all twenty two of this,
Please send it to me. Something we need to Diagno,
it's what's happening right now with the under twenty with
the under twenty team.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Let me know, man, I need to know if the
defensive tackle or the left guard needs to be replaced.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
I need to know all of them. I'm curious. It's
probablyhigh school kids right under twenty football roster very.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Well could be. Man, this is to me, it's like
the the Pro Bowl the way it used to be,
where it's like the alternate of the alternate of the
alternate of the alternate. It's finally this guy said yes.
Finally he said yes, I will go play in the
Pro Bowl. You know. That's what I feel like. This
under twenty team is.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Like, think this is it here? And yeah, I mean
it doesn't really say whether or not. It doesn't say
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
I'm guessing it's not star studied. That's just going to
go out there on a limb and say it's not
a start study.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Here's here's one of the lines. Kind of just read
you this very quickly. Yeah, the quarterback room features several
notable faces. I think this is from this year. By
there's no there's no date on this on this USA
Football press release. I think I think it's from this year.
I don't know why it wouldn't be. Don't if I'm wrong.
I'm wrong here, I'm sorry. The quarterback room features several

(01:39:15):
notable faces. Ambidextrous quarterback and Mikey Gao, who came a
viral sensationion in twenty twenty two, is making a trip
to Canada alongside former sixteen hundred US national team member
who is training to walk on at FAU. So we
have an amateur quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Whoa right there, like period hard stop, he's planning to
walk on at FAU. That's all we need to know
about the quality of this team here.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
It says here that the US national team boasts a
wide selection of accomplished alumni, including Trevon Diggs, Toron Matthew,
Jordan Ployer, Jonathan Taylor, Wyatt Teller Or Shan Bateman, Mac Jones,
Kenny Pickett, Elijah Viry, Tucker, Chase Young, Cooper Bebe. He
just got drafted, ye, Jalen Simpsons just got drafted. So
we've had some good football.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Players okay in the past, yes, But is the quality
greatly down? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
No, there's only thirty four kids on the team too.
That's a small it's a small.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
This is gonna really we need to dig more on this,
you know, you need to do some more digging on this.
All right, we got a lot to do coming up next.
Some interesting nicknames, and the ball buffet goes forward here
Jeff and just about ten minutes, there is a team
with a young quarterback. What type of success do you
think the team will have that resembles other teams with

(01:40:34):
other young quarterbacks. We'll lay that out for you as well.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No. Keep it locked right
here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian know man, Jeff, I swear
the off air conversation's fantastic. Over here. Is just talking

(01:40:54):
to my girl Mary, and she'll throw it my way.
She's like, all right, what do you have for me?
Because you'll let me pick the the rejoined music every
now and then. I was like, what kind of mood
are you in? And she said she was feeling like
kind of sappy love song ish. Oh okay, I'm like,
we gotta go with Chris Isaac. Right, it's a freaking

(01:41:17):
classic over here.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
I'm not like a death metal version of this.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
There might be somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
We had no death metal today. It's been nice.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Well that's where i'd drawn back. Yeah, there you go. Good. Oh, no, good, Mary.
We still have one more to go. When when possibility
left here in the show. Hey, by the way, Jeff,
we have our first deal of a player going to
a different team. So this is Andre Drummond. Yeah, set
to sign a two year, ten million dollars deal with

(01:41:50):
the seventy six ers, so he'll be there with Joel Embiid.
We got the Twin Towers again, right, Yeah, and being Drummond.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
Yeah, it was one of the best, you know, backup
centers they've had. I think with embiid injury history, it's
just smart to have someone that you can trust can
put the ball in the basket a little bit right
when it when it beats out, it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
Yeah. Great rebounder, Yeah, great rebounder. Drumming Yeah, was with
with my bulls last season.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
You know your bulls, guy, I love the Bulls. Love
the Bulls.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Still been still sticking true with them, you know, from
the nineties bulls. Yeah, they've been freaking brutal lately, bad
for a long time. But it took us about I
don't know, I'd say about twenty six ish minutes when
it was reported. It's unfortunate, but hey, man, it happens.
So the Astros beat the Mets ten to five. Man,

(01:42:47):
that's a killer for any under you know. Uh, these
extra inning games, your your Dodgers and Giants game yesterday,
jeff Right, it was seven to no. It was six
to six heading into extra is. The final score was
fourteen to seven. They scored nine runs just an extra
innings alone.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
It does feel like a lot of runs can score
an extra endings. I don't know if it's because the
runner starts on second base. Probably not. I mean that
to give you one run, obviously, but the point that
was to make it go faster, and it doesn't seem
like it goes any faster. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
Every now and then you get a marathon game. What
was the game I forget, I don't know if it was.
It was today, It was the Rockies and the White
Soxer But there was another one I can't remember, if
it was like the Mariners and Twins or something. Some
other game went really long. But I think that listen,
I'm in the minority here, i'd be lying to you.

(01:43:39):
I know, the baseball purists they hate the ghost runner
on second base to start extra innings. I love it.
I have no issue with it whatsoever. It's so much
more entertaining to me. And it's just a regular season thing.
They don't have it in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
But well that's why it's okay, right, because it's just right.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
But I can't tell you how many times Jeff be
a game that's tied to two going into the tenth
and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's gonna take him
an hour and a half to score a run or
finish this game. And when it first started, I'm like, oh,
we got a runner in scoring position out of the gate.
Like I'm in I'm watching this, so.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
There's more action. I think based on on a good
job of bringing back and I know we talked earlier,
joked about all the hits that don't happen, but just
the general have brought back a little more speeded past
the game, right, Yeah, with the pitch count and the
mountain visits and the lack of of you know, pickoffs

(01:44:38):
and things like that. Did a good job with that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
Yeah, absolutely, Okay, we got some nicknames. We got some
ball to discuss here coming up first though, Martin weiss
with us today and it's been a pleasure, you know,
always good to hear from Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
What's going on in your world and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
The sports world?

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
Did Martin leave us already? No?

Speaker 5 (01:44:59):
There is yeah for me now, nothing too big, but uh,
there's some big news coming out of Denver Coentavious Colwell Pope.
He has now reached a three year, sixty six million
dollars deal with the Orlando Magic. So that's the second
guy switching teams. Uh, you already alluded to Andrew Dunman
planning was signing a two year, ten plus million dollar
deal with the seventy six ers. Then we got a

(01:45:19):
bunch of reups going forward. James Harden signed a two
year seventy million dollar contract to retire to the Clippers.
Kevin Love returning to the Heat on a two year,
eight million dollar deal. Sean Sarani, you're reporting the Golden
State is working through shine and trade options for Klay Thompson.
The Warriors also waved point guard Chris Paul. He had
thirty million dollars guaranteed due today. Had he remained on

(01:45:41):
the roster, that's gonna suck.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Like you right, Yeah, you're about to be. I'm almost
reaching the finish line. Thirty mili nolp, No psych you
get nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:45:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (01:45:54):
Kevin Porter Junior, formerly of the Houston Rockets, was playing
in Europe the last few years.

Speaker 6 (01:45:58):
He agreed to a two year deal with the Clippers.

Speaker 5 (01:46:01):
Speaking of those Clippers again, there were reportedly looking for
trade partners for Russell Westbrook Denver in the front seat.
According to NBA TV, the Pelicans looking for trade partners
to move on from forward Brandon Ingram. The round of
sixteen has kicked off at euro twenty twenty four. England
beat Slovakia at two to one. Fain beat Georgia fourteen
to one, and you just talked about. The Rockies beat

(01:46:22):
the White Sox five to four. Thirteen innings, Astros and
Mets had a super long range delay in the ninth
inning was a ten to five. The final score there
after that in extra innings Pirates avoded this sweek beat
the Braves four to two, Phillies beat the Marlin seven
to six, Red Sox over the Padres four to one.
Raphae El Devers with the two run bomb. Yankees beat
the Blue Jays eight to one. Aaron Judge with his

(01:46:43):
thirty first home run of the year was a two
run homer in the first Raise over the Nationals five
to nothing. Brewers outscored the cub seven to one. Royals
beat the Guardian six to two, and Sunday Night Baseball
two to nothing middle of the second inning Rangers over
the Orioles.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Jeff back to y'all, Thank you Martin, good stuff, Buddy,
it is Jeff Schwartz. Brian know with you here on
Fox Sports Radio. So let me throw something at you
in the world of ball. Okay, Jeff, So I was
thinking about this with the Texans and c J. Stroud.
He was fantastic last season. So I was thinking, the Texans,
they've got a young quarterback. What is their success going

(01:47:24):
to resemble as a team compared to a couple other
teams that have had young quarterbacks hit the ground running
as well. Okay, do you see the Texans having a Bengals,
Chargers or Eagles type run here? Okay? With CJ Strett,
Now think about this the Bengals. We won't go through
all the records and all that because it's just gonna

(01:47:46):
sound like woh wow, wow, wah wow after a while.
But Burrow got hurt his rookie season, then boom Super
Bowl appearance, AFC Title game loss, and then he was
hurt again. So that's big team success similar to the Eagle. Right.
Hert's rookie season were a wild card team, then boom
Super Bowl appearance, and then last year they tailed back

(01:48:08):
off back in the wild card again. Justin Herbert, he's
only made the playoffs one time and they were five
and twelve last season as a squad. Yeah, So what
do you think of the Texans. Do you think it's
more Bengals, Eagles or Chargers in terms of team success
with a young quarterback there?

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
Well, I don't think they're being in Kansas City, so
that sort of takes out the Bengals and Eagles route, right.
But I don't think they're going to be like the Chargers.
I think they're going to be a viable team to
compete for the top of the AFC. But I don't
think this season they're going into Kansas City, let's say,
and being the Chiefs in the playoff game.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
No, that's fair. I think It's a little bit of
an Arnold Palmer situation here, you know, kind of like
half and half.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Well, yeah, I got that one.

Speaker 6 (01:48:51):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
I don't think they're gonna the ceiling. Isn't the Bengals
right like reaching the Super Bowl? I don't see that
happening this season. But I don't think it's the Chargers either.
I don't think they're five and twelve. No.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
I think people are tatt him the Chargers. I understand
what Jim Harbaugh is going to do to them, but
their roster is just sort of not there yet, and
the idea that they're going to come in right away
and win nine, ten eleven games, I just don't see
that in your.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
One I hear you. You know what's interesting is I
feel like the evaluations of the Chargers and the Jets
are flip flopped right Like, I feel like the common
opinion is all Chargers, Jim Harball look out. I feel
like that should be the opinion of the Jets right now.
But the opinion of the Jets is like, you can't

(01:49:47):
buy them. They were the trendy team hit heading into
last season, and now it seems like most people have
jumped off that bandwagon. I think the Jets could make
real noise. I don't see that with the Chargers this
season they lost a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Thing with the Jets is the same of the Chargers
is you have the stigma as a franchise and you
have to overcome and you need someone to kind of
push that through the wall, break the wall down. And
everyone knows Harbaugh and do that. He did it at Stanford,
he did it at forty nine Ers, he did it

(01:50:21):
in Michigan. Right now he's got a people Chargers. The
thing with the Jets is we have just years and
years and years now of the Jets just sort of
fumbling and bubbling their way around a season. And I
think a lot of us look at Robert Saloon. I
think he's a good coach, not great. I think he's,
you know, good defensive coordinator. But you have Nate Hackett,

(01:50:42):
You're like, oh, God, like that's that's just that's not
gonna be great off if that's your quarterback coming off
an Achilles injury. And it's the Jets. They have the
longest the four major professional sports drafts playoff droughts in
all of the professional sports. So, like I a lot
of just look at the Jets and think like, yeah,
that's the Jets no matter what happens, and it's not
gonna because we think it's gonna be. Where with Harbaugh

(01:51:05):
we have a proven success that he can do this
and change programs and change fortunes for players and individuals
and franchise brogram. We don't have that with the Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Yeah, that's true, but the Chargers are exactly that. You know, like,
is Harbaugh that reliable?

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
And I get you said I don't think in year
one he is, right, but I think he's had proven
track record.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
Now, I mean yeah, but he took Stanford was bad, right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
Do you remember they beat USC and.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
They were like forty one point dogs. It's insane and
it literally is insane.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
I think that was seven we beat USC that year
like at home, Like US wasn't invincible that year and
Harball still beat him as a forty one on the
road in Cosseum, So Michigan. Look, I think in the NFL,
but a lot of college football, it's hard to overcome

(01:52:04):
your past, right is more so college football. But I
think that in NFL it's overcoming you're losing, Like the
lot of n Dan Campson with the Lions. In college football,
we have a lot of programs that talk about the past, right,
Texas is one of them, So was Michigan, you know, USC, Washington.

(01:52:25):
It's about what happened twenty thirty years ago. Yeah, and
Harball broke through that at Michigan. It's hard to do.
The reason why a lot of those schools, Nebraska is
another one, just sort of can't break on through it again.
And Harbaugh did that. So I give him the respect
that he can take that term charging that we talk about,
sure and turn it into a positive.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Yeah, I hear you. I think that a couple of
things with the Jets. You know, Nathaniel Hackett as the
head coach with the Bank of the Broncos disastrous, but
he was with the Packers for many years when Aaron
Rodgers was still there and they had a lot of success.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
So he didn't call plays, I know, but I still
think that anything, right, Like he didn't call plays in
Kansas City. It's hard, like.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
True, true, But I still think that Rogers with a
competent supporting cast, I still think that they can be
a functioning, reliable offense and that defense is fantastic. And
look at that division the arrow on the Bills is
pointing downward. I'm not saying they're going to be a
five to twelve nine playoff team, but they've taken a

(01:53:28):
step back with the talent. They lost a lot of talent,
and the Dolphins lost a lot of talent also, And
so if you're looking at it from a Jets perspective,
you're like, Bro, this division is there for the taking.
It absolutely is, and they are flying completely not under
the radar, They're not even on the radar. I swear
they were the trendy team heading into last season. Rogers

(01:53:50):
got hurt, their season sucked, and no one likes them
going into this season. It seems like.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
Part of that is people don't want to get in Rogers. Yeah,
that's that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
I thought his moved to miss mini camp that was lame.
Does it matter for the success of their season?

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
I don't think so. But it's because he made a
statement back in January where he was like, everything we
do matters, every single thing. This bs that. It's like, Bro,
you can't make that statement and then miss. But you're right,
it doesn't matter, Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
It's more about the principle of.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
What you just said, that's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Where we get one thing that Aaron Rodgers says and
he does something else.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
That's right totally.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
And as a leader of that team, I know, I
know the player said it doesn't matter, and it may
not matter, but everyone else was there and you weren't.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
All thirty one of the quarterbacks were in their mandatory
mini camp. You were not. And the pushback is, well,
he was at the other stuff. Oh okay, he was.
But like if you're a parent, you have a kid,
and your kid has like one mandatory thing you have
to show up for and you're everything else, but you're
on a vacation for the mandatory one. Yeah, kid's gonna

(01:55:09):
look at you a little differently, right, right, then show
it to the mandatory thing. Yeah, the man the one thing.
And people say, well, he scheduled his vacation eleven months out.
I went back and looked. The mandatory mini camp is
the same week every year. He's a twenty year veteran.
He knows what a mini camp is, so he chose
not to be a mini camp. But where the rest
of his team was the except his son Riddick, right,

(01:55:29):
and all other quarterbacks NFL were at their mini camps.
They managed to make it. They managed a not double
book manatory mini camp. So to me, that's just another
continued pattern for him, but also for the for the franchise, right,
who just can't seem to get those moments right. Then
on top of that, they botched the whole messaging behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Well that was bad. When you know, Sala comes out
and says it was unexcused that that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
Well, it technically is the right they I'm him in
that way, it's unexcused.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
But right, right, But why why frame it that way?
I will just say this though, real real fast. Yeah,
is I get everything that you're explaining with the Jets,
but you look at what Rogers has to work with
and you compare that to what Herbert doesn't have to
work well.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
Well, they're better than the Chargers this year. I'm not
on the Charger. I'm on the Chargers are going to
win a lot of games this year. I think year
two and year three and four, that's what it picks out.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Yeah, but this season, I think this season is going
to be a struggle. I think it's uphill all right,
coming up next? Which extension are you most concerned about
we'll compare notes. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now keep
it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is
Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Know did

(01:56:48):
you overrule me? Jeff? I thought this was supposed to
be death metal? Here at the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
This is my daughter'savorite song. Right now, she plays a
song NonStop?

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
Man, what's up with my girl? Mary Mack? I had
to give equal opportunity back. You see what happens when
we go the Schwartz route over is unbelievable. Right we listen,
We're making his daughter proud. Hey, it's fine, It's all
good here real fast. Before ball, I ran across these
nicknames for Klay Thompson. You know, if you go either

(01:57:16):
Basketball Reference Pro Football Reference, have you heard these nicknames?
Here we go the Clay Thompson nicknames Big Smoky, Okay, kill.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
A Clay that would makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Okay, we all know this game six Clay, Yeah again.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
The game six. Of his careers have been fantastic. Yess.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
Also see Captain. He loves to go out on the
water right on his boat and all that. And how
about this the electrician I've never heard that one time
in my life. For Klay Thompson, I've never either.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Now I'm touching my names. If I have any nicknames?

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
Oh, man, I hope you do.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
I do not know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
Ah, that's unfortunate right there. My favorite is Tom Brady.
If you look at his one of his nicknames is
the Pharaoh. I've never heard to anybody referred to Tom
Brady as.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
And there's no link to like the actual like reason
so TV twelve Tom traffor touchdown, Tom, goat the Pharaoh,
comeback kid, or sir the Pharaoh for.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
Sure or sir yeah, sir. Yeah. I've never heard anybody say,
oh yeah, Pharaoh, Yeah Tom Brady, Oh yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
I looked up to uh just because I know he's
your quarterback, but also maybe they added yeah some some
joke from the last Donnie Donnie. How is this that's
what's gonna bring up? How is that possible?

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
The middle name is Donnie full.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
Like his first he's talking about before his his first
name is very Polynesian, right, it's yes, twenty letters he
said it before, and then it's legit Donnie and then
talk of my love.

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
That's awesome. That is awesome. Right there, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
Someone has someone's got to ask him. How Donnie did
do you think people just his name just call me Donnie?

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
It was a baby. He couldn't say you, couldn't say tua,
and somehow it came out weird and she came out
as like like like my daughter couldn't say octopus. She
would say apple sauce for like two years octopus. She
like apple sauce. So like situations where like TWA couldn't
say his name and just said Dawn. He called him Donnie.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
That's fine. I don't know if it was in the
family or what.

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
Just that is incredibly that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
The thing it makes me think of is my nephews
were growing up. It's like the last word one of
my nephews would mispronounce. He would say hella hocter and
my dad went to correct him, and my sister was like, nope, nope,
like that was the last word. They were screwing up
and she didn't want them to say it right because
it was like the last cute thing that was still intact.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Yeah, my daughter still has a grammar thing she does
and she's almost eight. That's not correct, but still like a,
I forget what it is, but it's cute. I keep
and I don't. I don't tell her to change it yet.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
He's one thing where she'd use the wrong to use
the wrong tense of a thing, and just like just keep.
Just it's okay. That the only kid thing you have
left going for you.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
We might dive back into this next week, but just
to pay it off right now. Would you be more
uneasy with the contract extension for dak for Tua or
for Jordan Love? Where would you stand on that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
Right now, this offseason? What would give you the most?

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
Probably fifty five million Jordan Love? I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
We have one season.

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
Yea, yeah, it's half. He didn't play well in the
first half, but that's right, played ball in the second,
play much best. Second half of the season.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
He played great.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
I was pointing up, like he plays well for eight
games or maybe the whole season, Like, yeah, give give
him the money, but right now, I mean, dak Iss
what he is, but he's he's one playoff games.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
Yeah, I want to know more. I don't feel great
about giving fifty five MILLI year for one year. Everybody
have a right evening