Brian Noe, Rich Ohrnberger, and Jared Smith talk SEC additions and Klay Thompson!

Brian Noe, Rich Ohrnberger, and Jared Smith talk about an epic night in Major League Baseball, some “sham” titles and title runs after the latest hot dog eating contest, Texas and OU join the SEC, Klay Thompson says goodbye to the Bay Area, tragic news out of Minnesota, Jontay Porter faces federal charges for gambling, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh, happy Saturday morning to you. Hope everything is great
in your world. I'll tell you what. We had some
craziness in baseball last night. We will get to an
epic win in just a minute. Full menu today. I mean,
we've got college football on the agenda, We've got the NBA,
We've got NFL stuff. I want to talk about the

(00:26):
honeymoon period for quarterbacks. It's a very very short list.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Shit ball, that is right.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
We get a sham champion and the hot dog getting
contest with no Joey chest nutt.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
We are backed to the gills over here.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
But I want to start fellows with your neck of
the woods here Rich an epic win by the Padres
last night. And just to set it up, so the
Padres are leading heading into the ninth inning seven to two.
It's the top of the ninth for the Arizona Diamondbacks.
What did they do? They hit a grand slam yep.
Then they hit a two run homer to take the lead.

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So the Padres are down by a run. What are
they do in the bottom of the ninth Jerks far
hits a home run to tie it up and then
Manny Machado steps up and does this.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Playfield?

Speaker 5 (01:17):
My Paul's into it, against it up.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yes, that's how it sounded.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Compliments mister Orsilo right there, one of the best in
the business on SDPA.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
That was insane.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Nine total runs in the ninth inning alone from both teams,
and that was in front of the largest crowd in
Petco Park history.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
That was amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
Yeah, over forty seven thousand people got to watch that,
assuming they stayed in their seats, because, like you said,
the Padres had a comfy lead heading into the ninth
and there's a lot of people I'm sure that were
turning off their televisions and tucking themselves in. You know,
maybe they got after it pretty hard the past two
days celebrating America's birthday. But the game featured in that

(02:08):
ninth inning a grand slam, a go ahead home run
from the d Backs, followed by that game tying blast
from Profi you were talking about, and then Manny Machado's
walk off.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
That's the first.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
Time in al NL history that four different players have
accomplished those four different.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Feats in the same inning in a game.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
And what's amazing about baseball is it feels like, because
it's an untimed game, it gives opportunities to baseball players
that other games don't give opportunities to their players. It's like,
at one point it'll bother you. Sometimes you'll say, gosh,

(02:53):
these games are so long, and you know so then
they bring in the pitch clock and you know they
shorten the base pass do they make all these changes?
But then you have a night like last night where
I'm sure the fans there wish for nine more innings
of excitement the way was delivered in the ninth.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
It was an unbelievable night.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
I'm sure one that anybody who was there will never forget,
and certainly one of those nights that could provide a
catalyst for a team that's been kind of struggling to
find it's an identity. The Padres are scrappy. They don't
seem to quit. That's definitely been a part of their identity.
But they've been a five hundred baseball team the whole way,

(03:36):
up and down and up and down this season.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
But last night was pretty magical.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
Yeah, I think there's there's a lot of upside for
the Padres in terms of what they can accomplish in
the postseason. I've always been high on them. I think
there's a bit of a mental weakness there that they
haven't been able to overcome, although they did beat the
Dodgers in a playoff series recently. I mean, I think
that's that's a feather in their cap for sure. That

(04:03):
was insane last night. So I watch baseball every day religiously.
I focus obviously on the first inning, but I watch
all the games. I stay up late, I watch all
the games, and actually when I watch the later parts
of the games, like that meltdown for the Padres bullpen
in the ninth inning last night, and by the way,
it was one of many other just last night was

(04:26):
a really weird night in baseball.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think it's because it was a new moon.

Speaker 7 (04:30):
I don't know if you're into that kind of thing,
but it was just one of those When you play
every day, weird stuff tends to happen, and for some
reason last night was just one of those nights. But
you watch these meltdowns in some of these bullpens, and
it's just it makes me grateful that I actually only
bet on the first inning some days because I'm not
involved in any of the shenanigans.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
That happened late, but.

Speaker 7 (04:52):
This is a very exciting I mean, if you just
want to get to how I feel about the Padres
in general as a team, like I'm just kind of waiting,
like I'm waiting for them to reach their full potential.
I mean, they're eight and two in their last ten.
The Dodgers have kind of, you know, I would say,
turned a corner. They kind of hit a little bit
of a lull where they weren't maybe Dodger like, but

(05:14):
nice win last night. Freddie Freeman came up clutch for them.
And I still think the Dodgers win the division. But
I mean, the way that baseball structured these days, you
don't need to win them. Look at the last two
World Series, and half the teams didn't win the division
that were in them. So I think the wild card
and the excitement around San Diego's home ballpark is going

(05:34):
to carry them. I do think they're going to be
a contender when we get to the end of the rainbow.
I don't know if they can get over the hump,
but I think I would say they're the third best
team in the National League right now, Philly Dodgers, and
then I think there's an opening for that third slot
that San Diego can ascend to if they want.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Man, I don't know, they got some work to do
to get there. If they could, I get it. They're
very talented. But I wouldn't put him there just yet.
But the thing that that sparked my interest here I
got my mind working is just kind of like an oh,
by the way comment from you Rich where you're talking
about fans maybe leaving the game early.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I wonder, I wonder what.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Fan has the best which would actually be the worst
leaving the game early story.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I know the answer to this. It's the heat.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
It's the heat at the shot, and they were trying
to get back in and they.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Wouldn't they.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
That was the best You left an NBA Finals Game
seven and then you missed over.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, you can't. I don't know how you topped that.
It would be hard to top. I think of, man,
you go back to the Dodgers with the Kirk Gibson
home run, the walk off homer in eighty eight, because
you could see the tailights of a lot of cars
driving away. Can you imagine being a die hard Dodgers

(07:03):
fan and you left early from that moment? Or I
wonder if anyone left the Patriots twenty eight to three
comeback in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (07:11):
There nobody watching the Super Bowl in the game anyways, right,
it's all corporate rights.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, someone from even.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
A home game.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah, definitely certain people who hot footed it out of there,
and they were like, gosh, you know, they it's been
such a long week.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
This is not even this super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
And and you're right, yeah, like industry people who are
just like so jaded that they're missing one of the
most historic moments in sports.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, listen last night.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
I don't blame by the way, I don't blame any
fans for doing whatever they want outside of you know,
hurting somebody, uh you know.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Or or hurling racial slurs.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
You know, something awful When you buy a ticket, do
whatever you want with an including selling it. Like I don't,
I don't care. You could do whatever you want with
your ticket, you know, So I oh, I never have
because I feel like it's like this little contract that
you know, you sign and by the way, these are

(08:18):
becoming more and more expensive contracts that you signed between
yourself as a fan and the team, and you know,
do what you want with it. But like from the
standpoint of like going to a baseball game, especially if
you're a season ticket holder, especially if you're a season
ticket holder with the team as frustrating as the Padres
where they've done this to you before.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Now, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
They've had a couple of like really majestic walkoffs at home.
So a close game going into the bottom of the
ninth inning you ought to stick around for. But but yeah,
I mean, I wouldn't blame anybody for getting out of there.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
It's just one of those things.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
Where immediate regret because this was a situation where your
leadoff hitter in the bottom of the ninth profar ties it,
and so you just know the magic is hanging in
the air for somebody to grab it. Go figure it's
your star player, Manny Machado who closes the casket on
the Diamondbacks. And is it going to matter when it's

(09:20):
September and we're tallying, you know, the season win total.
Are we gonna remember this night?

Speaker 4 (09:27):
I don't know. Maybe we will, but on a.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
Random July fifth, something special happen, if it's a turning point,
we'll remember it.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
But certainly it.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
Helps when it's a player like Profar, who got named
to his first ever All Star Game, and he was
a bargain basement signing.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
He was a guy who they just signed for a
million dollars.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
Real quick because they were desperate for an outfielder and
it was like musical chairs. The music stopped and there
was nobody left to really take a seat for them,
and they signed him because he had a history with
the team and he's been the hard and soul of
the team.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah. That and that's a good start. I didn't know
it was his first All Star Game.

Speaker 7 (10:09):
And how about that the game's going to be played
in Texas at the Rangers Ballpark, which is the team
that drafted him. Right, that's a great story.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Actually I didn't.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
I did not know he got the name of the
All Star team and it was his first one. That
that's a really good, feel good story for Jerrickson Profar. Yeah,
I really do like this Padres team a lot, guys,
And I think.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
You made a really.

Speaker 7 (10:30):
Good point, Rich When we look back on the season,
that's the beauty and maybe the beast of baseball is
it's one game out of one sixty two. It was
probably of the two and thirty games played in the
baseball season this year across all the teams, that might

(10:51):
have been the best game of the year. And at
the end of the day, it's one of one sixty
two and and that's the Arizona to if you're the Diamondbacks,
that that's your mindset. Well, we're going right back to
the ballpark today and today's game we can win one
hundred to nothing and accounts just as much as last
night's brutal loss. And that can be difficult sometimes from

(11:13):
you know, when we talk about handicapping and betting this,
you know, and you know, getting involved in this sport
on a daily basis because you have a and I
struggle with this all the time. I'll have a three
and oh four and oh day and I'll be feeling great,
go right back to the ballpark the next day, oh
and three, and you just you just have to manage
the highs and the lows. And I almost think as
talent obviously matters, pitching matters, hitting matters, But which team

(11:35):
can handle those highs and lows over a six month
stretch tends to be the team that performs the best
in October because you can handle the ups and the downs.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
The obviously have to win games.

Speaker 7 (11:46):
Too, But I think the Orioles were a good example
of that last year, you know, didn't handle the ups
and the downs as much when they got to the playoffs, had.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
This unbelievable season, historic and then got swept out of
the playoffs, Like, how did they?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
You know?

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Like?

Speaker 7 (12:00):
And San Diego is the same thing. Very volatile team.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
They'll win ten in a row, lose ten in a row, Like,
how do you handle those ups and downs? We'll see,
We'll see if.

Speaker 7 (12:06):
San Diego, if Sanego comes to the ballpark today and
brings you their a game, they carry that momentum over
and maybe they did turn a corner.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Man uh Rich is far more forgiving than I am. Yeah,
I want to hear your story about why you.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Don't like you don't like selling things.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
No, if you sell your tickets, there are certain times
where I have no issue with that.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
But if you are at the game.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Let's just say you were a Padres fan last night.
You're at the game. There, the Padres are leading seven
to two, and then all of a sudden, Arizona hits
Grand Slam, hits a two run homer, and your team
is losing. If you say, map, let's call it in evening,
let's be traffic home. What are you doing there in
the first place? Why are you there? I call those

(12:53):
fans half pints, right. You don't have any passion. You're
not all in. You're just halfway in, halfway out. You're
like one of these fans that sits behind home plate
and just stares at their phone all game.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Why are you there? Go away, get out of there.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
You don't belong.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Have some passion for what you're doing. And these people
that are like, hey, let's be traffic. We're gonna get
home by like fifteen minutes sooner.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Why are you there?

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Why?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I never understand those people. And I hope I hope
that some people got their hearts ripped out because they
went home early.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
And oh they have a little contract. They can do
what they want. Yeah, they can get out of there
for the rest of the time for all I care.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
You shouldn't be there in the first place if you're
leaving early like that, what a joke.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Well, I have a.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Very different relationship with fans because for a long time
they paid my salary. So I mean, listen, if you
want to spend the money, and it's there in the
coffers for the owners to spend on the rest of
their roster. Well, then, by all means, do whatever you
want after you spend that money, because it does.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Not matter to me.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
And you're right, like, there are some of those fans
who show up, ticket holders, who show up and full
throated support of the home team, and as soon as
they start stinking, they're the one. Some of them are
the ones who will turn around and you know they'll
they'll you.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Know, the ah, yeah, this team is lousy.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Another you know, come from behind victory for the opponent.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
I'm out of here, you know, And it's like, you know, where,
where's where's the guts in that? You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (14:36):
If you're going to desire that for the team you're
rooting for, you know what about you?

Speaker 4 (14:42):
What about a.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
Little intestinal fortitude from you? What about a little bit
of the energy that you were bringing when we were winning?
Where is that when we're losing? When we when we
you know, we catch a bad ending, our bullpen melts
down a little bit. You know, we're not out of
this one. So I mean, does it is there a
part of me that feels a little bit of like, yeah,
there's that I told you so energy, Like you know,

(15:03):
you shouldn't count us out kind of feeling. Even though
I don't play for the pad Dres, but you know,
the feeling of when you're on the field and somebody
and and you actually see you know, backs going up
the aisle, you know, because it's the fourth quarter. Yeah,

(15:23):
it's the fourth quarter and you're down two touchdowns and
you see backs going up the aisles and they are
Charger jerseys or the Patriots jerseys.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
I mean, it was rare when it was with the Patriots, but.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
You get the deal, Like, you know, all of a sudden,
you have a little bit of energy in the fourth
quarter and things turn around.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
You know, there is a little bit of a feeling
of like, shouldn't have left, he should.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
Have left left.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Real fast this conversation, here's the thing, it reminds me
of a story real fast. So Notre Dame was playing
a college football game at home against South Florida years ago,
and my mom and I were at the game, and
they're these two long weather delays, and at the end
of the game, it was eerie.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
There there were hardly any people left in the.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Building and you're just like, wow, this is a Notre
Dame game and the stands are empty.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
But my mom and I stayed there the whole time.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
It's one of my favorite memories, not just relating to
sports but in life that we spent that time together
and just stayed until the end. That would have been
great if Notre Dame came back in one, but they didn't.
But still it's a great, great memory. Here's my question
for anybody who leaves early. What great memory occurred once
you left early?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
What happened? Huh? Did you go to the convenience store
and run into dua lipa and you got a date
out of it?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Like?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
What great story came from leaving early? What name one?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I want to hear one, because if you leave early,
you're probably just gonna beat traffic and go home and
go to sleep.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Like wan, what's great about that?

Speaker 7 (16:54):
If like an asteroid hits the stadium and you left
and you remember and you.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Did get killed in the blotte?

Speaker 7 (17:01):
Yeah, I'm about the only positive I think where you
can be Like, Man.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
I am glad I left that game early. Exactly right?

Speaker 9 (17:09):
Man?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
All right, we are firing up today off and running.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
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So the hot dog eating contest on the fourth of July, Well,
normally that's all you have to say, is the hot
dog eating contest? We all know it's the Nathan's Hot
Dog Eating Contest, but not the same thing this year.
No Joey Chestnut. So this sham champion, Patrick Berte, what

(18:31):
is it? Bertletti? Patrick Bertletti? He ate fifty eight hot dogs,
which is been pretty impressive in ten minutes. Then Joey
Jaw's Chestnut huh, who signed with the rival company, who
was barred from competing in the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest.
This year, he goes and does his little contest on

(18:52):
this little side street, this side state. He ate fifty
seven hot dog and about half the time. Yeah, so
the champion of the Nathan's contest had eight fifty eight.
Joey chestnutt eight fifty seven and about half the time.
That's crazy to me, but it gets me thinking of

(19:15):
sham champions throughout the years in non hot dog eating contests,
and you know, like the twenty nineteen Raptors, they would
be one of those teams where the Warriors were all
banged up. KD played only twelve minutes of that series.
Clay missed Game three, had his acl torn in Game six.
Like the Kawhi Leonard, Toronto Raptors of twenty nineteen one

(19:38):
of your all time great sham champions.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, I actually kind of agree with you.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
And don't get me wrong, every champion in my mind,
like you know, the Lakers in the Bubble, the Dodgers
in the Bubble. I know a lot of people give
them a hard time for those championships. You know, they
call the Lakers won the Disney Championship because they played
a Disney world, you know, like the Arlington Bubble in

(20:04):
Major League Baseball for the Dodgers. That Raptor's victory because
like you mentioned how banged up the Warriors were. But look,
you know, you make it all the way there, you
win the darn thing.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
You earn the trophy.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
However, there are certain championships that feel like you earn
him a little bit more like that. We were just
referencing the comeback for the Patriots over the Falcons, like
they earned that one, you know, I mean, I understand
they had a lot of rings during that time, but
they definitely earned that one.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
That one though, with the Raptors, the.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
Part of it that I disliked the most, and I'm
a Kawhi Leonard fan outside of one aspect of his game.
The guy kind of became the face of load management.
So even though I was rooting for the player, I
wasn't rooting for him to have career success like that,
because unfortunately, attached to that are going to be other

(21:03):
players who say, yeah, I want to do it the
way Kawhi did, where I play like a third of
the season every year and I'm a finals MVP a
couple of times throughout the course of my career. You
know it, Just the load management thing I think really
harmed the NBA, and he became the face of it
during his time leaving the Spurs and since then and

(21:24):
winning a championship on his own after leaving San Antonio
with the Toronto Raptors, I think only reinforced Hey, everybody
out there, you really got to rest your body and
be your best come turn, you know, tournament time.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
I think it's hard for me to call a championship
a sham when you win games along the way, Like
obviously that championship series for the Raptors facing a Benga
Boyers team was tough, but then go look at the
game seven in the series against the Sixers and it's like,
all right, they kind of earn that, right, Like that

(22:01):
was about as good of a series as you're gonna see,
and the Sixers were really good that year. So I
struggle in the in the series sports where yeah, maybe
one of the series and maybe the championship series was
a bit of a cupcake, but the road to that championship,
because about long the season is, was just so daunting.
I'll give you one that I was looking up this

(22:23):
morning that stood out because it's always kind of one
of those teams that I'm like, how did they win
a championship in this millennium or in the last one
hundred years?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
And that was.

Speaker 7 (22:33):
BYU football back in eighty four, which was like one
of the softest championships in like college football history. They
only beat one ranked team the whole season. It was Pittsburgh,
and they just weren't a very good team, but they
kind of the way the college football was structured back then,
it wasn't as hard to kind of get through the
gauntlet if you had an easy schedule and you can
go undefeated and you had any name recognition, and that's

(22:55):
what BYU was back in the eighties. So, for example,
I don't think you'll ever see by You win another
national championship of COG football, like ever ever ever happen again.
So that's one of those like one offs that just
like the Joey Chess nutting, like you're never gonna really
think about BYU and that same ilk ever again.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
You're never gonna think of whoever.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Won the hot dog eating contest as like the greatest
hot dog eating champion of all.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Time, because we all know it's Joey.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
The whole Chestnut story is crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I mean, it really is. Why they ban.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
Him and just the whole situation leading up to it,
Like it's just it's money and it's politics, and it's
everything that's wrong with sports, but it's part of sports.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think it's actually easier to have a sham champion
in a sport where you're playing a series, right, Like
if you're playing a best of seven series and you're
adding Kevin Durant to a seventy three win Warriors team,
right and he plays twelve minutes of an entire series
against the Raptors, I think it's much easier to have

(24:02):
a sham champion in a series when one of the
best players of all time is gone for nearly the
entire series that matters a ton, so like literally, the
definition of sham is a thing that is not what
it's purported to be. And I think that's what the
twenty nineteen Raptors are. Where if you look at champions

(24:22):
of the past and it's like they want it all,
they're the champions, and it's like there is a lot
more to it with the nineteen Raptors than just they
want it all. That's why, hey, listen, man, I get it.
Injuries happen. Injuries are a part of sports. I totally
understand that. I'm not saying every champion who benefited from
their opponent being banged up is a sham champion. But

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I have a special category for the twenty nineteen NBA
Finals because the Raptors would have gotten smoked if the
Warriors are at full strength. It was a hot knife
through butter against Lebron's Cavs teams with Kevin Durant on
that squad, and I have no doubt in my mind
none that the Warriors would have won a championship had

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they been not even at full strength, at better strength
health wise, and they weren't some other sham champions.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
The twenty seventeen Astros would be on that list.

Speaker 7 (25:16):
I was hanging on cand Yeah, that one, that one
I think is the biggest sham of them all because
that one they really cheated.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's up there, and not a champion, but a sham
that they even got to the super Bowl. That would
be the twenty eighteen Rams where it was an obvious
pass interference call, no call, They make it there, then
they lose in the Super Bowl thirteen to three to
the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
That was the worst super Bowl in my lifetime. It
was brutal.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Can you imagine if that's Drew Brees and who'd at
That's who should have been And how crazy is that?
That Super Bowl was in February of twenty nineteen, and
then a few months later that was the whole Raptors thing.
We had sham on top of sham in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
I will say this though, it is this is coming
from somebody who was on the second place team, and
that's the best finish I ever had in.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
A football season.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
When the Patriots in twenty twelve we lost to the
New York Giants in Indianapolis Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
What was that forty six? Forty six? I believe. We
go out there to Indianapolis.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
And what's interesting about a season when you reach the playoffs,
it does feel like a whole new season starts and
you start playing through your schedule and you realize, oh,
my gosh, we were only two games away from an
AFC Championship game, like, and then you're there and you're

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like pinching yourself. You're like, oh, this is happening, Like
we're about to we're about to potentially go to the
super Bowl, and we end up going off of a
field goal attempt by the Ravens, basically, and the confetti
is falling and you realize that you've already won a trophy.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
You know you've won the conference.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
You're heading to Indianapolis for the biggest game of your life,
of your career, And I just I can't express to
anybody actually how exhausting it is to make it just
that far. That nobody remembers the Super Bowl losers, nobody

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remembers the World Series losers, nobody really talks about.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
The NBA Finals losers.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
But I can promise you it took a hell of
a lot of effort to get there. And so when
you see a year like Philadelphia have last year after
a year just going to the Super Bowl and losing, like,
it's understandable that they had some regression because it's so
tough to get there and there's so much more sacrifice

(27:58):
that goes into a sea in when you fight your
way to the last game and then.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
All of a sudden you lose it.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
It takes so much to do it, and having that
realization like, oh my god, we were there and we
were in that football game and we lost it, it
is the most deflating feeling on the planet. So it's
hard for me to say that there are sham champions.
I guess outside of cheaters, you know, where it's it's

(28:26):
obvious that they really did something that broke the rules
to earn a championship. Outside of that, because it's just
so difficult to even get to a championship series or
a championship game.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
I love that explanation for two reasons. First, selfishly, it
confirms my opinion about teams that lose in the championship
round or series or game and then make it back
the next year. They're not losing that series or game.
And the ideal example is what happened with the Panthers

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this year in the Stanley Cup. And also I remember
this opinion started back in twenty sixteen when the Royals
won the World Series after they lost to the Giants
the year prior. Like those, that was a formative gambling
moment for me where I had a light bulb go

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off and I said, when a team makes it back
to whatever championship round after losing the prior year, do
not fade them.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
They are not losing.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
Because what Rich, the feeling that Rich just described is
probably that fire that burns in every player's gut after
they lose a Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, championship, whatever, and
then make it back. Right Like, Rich, if you were
on the Patriots the name, I don't know if you
were on them the following year, but if you were

(29:52):
on the team that made it back to the Super
Bowl the next time they made it back, you weren't
losing that game, like cause it's just you just or
your brain just just goes into complete ninja mode. Yeah,
that's I. I and I I kind of agree with
your with with the sham thing. Like I, championships are
so hard and there's so many more moments than just

(30:16):
the one series that led to it, like, yes, that
was what we all remember is the final moment, the
final game, the final series. But those NBA postseasons to
go back to, specifically the Raptors, I mean, they're like
a month and a half long. Like it's it's a
really long journey. So it's really hard to knock the
Raptors steps along the way. Maybe the last step was

(30:36):
a really easy one, and it should be the hardest step.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
And that's how we would prefer as sports fans.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
It's a hard season and you get to the championship
series and it's just easy. Like I remember losing money
on the.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
On the Warriors.

Speaker 7 (30:47):
I thought to myself, there's no way the Warriors are
gonna lose this and they're gonna come back. They're gonna
I think they lost it in six, right, Like they're
gonna come back, They're gonna win Game.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Six, They're gonna win this series.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Nope, Nope.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
They had nothing left in the tank.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
And it's kind of like the optimist passive like passive
mister team, like do you want to look glass half
full like this team won the title, or do you
want to look glass half empty this team lost the title.
They're a sham get him out like it's it's kind
of a it's kind of a dichotomy.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
I would say, you guys are so nice. I know
we're soft.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
We're soft, Brian, you are the hardened metal.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
And we're the softest, big softies, big softies over here.
Like we just saw the Celtics and the Mavericks in
the finals. If the MAVs won the finals because Tatum
was out and Jalen Brown was out and uh wolper
Zingis will count him because he was kind of out
right and Derek White gets banged up, it's like, okay,
astisk City.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
In my mind, some.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
People are like, but they beat the Timberwolves and they
they beat the okac and they had this really hard path.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
That's all true, that's absolutely all true.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
But if you get a great assist, like an all
time assist due to the injury Bud, I'm gonna count
that against that, right it is, it does, But it
was a different category with the twenty nineteen Warriors.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Just a different category in my mind.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
But hey, I think I'm in the minority on this
one because everyone wants to be.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Like they're the champs. They're unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Now, Astro City with Kawhi and his band of merriment
over there, but.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I very chatty over it. We got Isaac clowan card.
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (32:21):
I love?

Speaker 10 (32:21):
Good morning fellas, and let's start in Major League Baseball
A big performance at Dodger Stadium last night by Will Smith.
Oh hold on, guys, I'm getting a text messager.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Dond's from Rich Isaac.

Speaker 10 (32:37):
Don't you think you should be leading with the Chargers
game fist emoji? Chargers game autocorrect? Oh, Padres game you men's.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
I mean, what do you do it? I love?

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Maybe you just here, just take your jabs at the
at the San Diego fan harp broken over the Chargers.

Speaker 10 (33:01):
Still Freudian slip on my shard. Sure, maybe in the future,
instead of threatening me with a fist emoji, you can
offer a free barbecue, because I will gladly do it
for you, Rich. Indeed, we will lead with the exploits
of Petco Park. Last night, before a record Petco Park
crowd of forty seven seventy one, Padres entered the bottom

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of the ninth inning trailing the Arizona Diamondbacks eight to seven.
Jerkson Profar the game tying home run to lead off
the bottom of the ninth inning, and then later Manny
Machado came to the plate with one on. Here's Don
Orcillo with the call.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Black Feld whips.

Speaker 8 (33:44):
Against shut up.

Speaker 10 (33:50):
I gotta tell you, fellas, that was a great call,
wasn't it by don Or Sillo.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
He's one of the best.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
He's got some amazing lines in some amazing moments so far.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
With the Socks that he was with the Red Sox
for a while and then the Padres since then.

Speaker 10 (34:08):
I've never heard a line by that announcer, but that's
a great line. A home run going into the stands
into a sea of San Diegans. Just another great element
of that call, including the excitement by Don Orcillo the
Dodgers getting to them. Will Smith I three home runs
and an eight to five with over the Milwaukee Brewers.
The Baltimore Orioles a three to two victory at Oakland.

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The Orioles have won seven of their last night in
the WNBA. On Friday night, Chicago Sky rookie Angel Reese
added to her WNBA record with her twelfth consecutive double
double in an eighty eight eighty four win at Seattle.
Reef finished with a career high twenty seven points and
ten rebounds, and coming up at noon Eastern time today

(34:48):
the quarterfinal round of Euro twenty twenty four as England
takes on Switzerland just over two hours from now, gentlemen,
back to you, thank lo Hey.

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Jared Smith has been hard at work. He's got a

(35:22):
parlay platter for you. I don't even look. He'll oftentimes
text us or email us. I don't even like to look.
I like to be surprised in the moment. Are we
going soccer here today? Are we going soccer baseball hybrid?
Are we working in the WNBA?

Speaker 3 (35:39):
I don't know. We'll all find out together. That's on
the way.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith
FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian know that is on the way.
The platter du jure. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here
on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right
here on Fox Sports Radio. We've got no time to waste.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Check this out, ar Lad Letter.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Okay, Jared Smith, you've been hard at work. What do
you have for us today?

Speaker 7 (36:08):
Well, let's go to the euro And I know we're
kind of up against it with soccer because we only
have a real few more matches left here.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
But I love this tournament.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
I think it's I mean, have you been watching the
Copa too last night with Canada and Advancing?

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Like it?

Speaker 7 (36:23):
Just the passion for these European nations. And of course
in Copa America's the South American North American countries competing
for supremacy.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's just like to me, it's it's just my favorite event.
I love the world soccer event.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
So we'll go to the quarterfinal this afternoon noon Pacific
three Eastern between Netherlands and Turkey, and.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
We're gonna do a three team or a three leg
same game parlay.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
We're gonna start in the corners market and I know
it's hard sometimes there's only a couple two three goals
in a match. I'm not no goals in a match
like there was in the France Portugal match yesterday. But
we're gonna look at the corners market. Corner kicks is
kind of an alternative statistic that I've been handicapping lately
that you can put in these same game parlays. So
we're gonna go over nine and a half total corners

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in the Netherlands Turkey match. Turkey allowed ten corners in
the last match against Austria. Netherlands had thirteen in their
win over Romania a few days ago.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
We're gonna go over to and a half total goals.

Speaker 7 (37:20):
I know scoring goals is hard, and I know just
goals in general is a soccer seems to be devoid
of them in some of these major tournaments. But I
think this match is going to be a goal match.
The overs actually four to oher and Turkey's matches so
far in this tournament, three and one for Netherlands. The
only under was a nil nil draw against France. And
if you've been watching France, I think they're like the

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best defense I've seen. One of my friends compared them
to be eighty five Bears defense. I know, I know,
you want to go midway the Monsters of France the
best defense in history of the European Soccer tournament.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
So we'll go over two and a half here.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
I think Netherlands is a really attacking side in Turkey's
defensive minded hasn't really been great so and Netherland's on
the money line, I think this is a very undervalue team.
These teams played twice in the euro qualifying back in
twenty one, and I know that's like, oh three years ago,
but a lot of these guys, especially for Turkey, actually
a very older team, very drilled, and so it was

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pretty much.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
The same lineup for Turkey.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
And the last time these two teams played back in
those qualifyings, Netherlands won six to one and four to two.
So maybe something about the Dutch style just doesn't really
quite suit what Turkey tries to do defensively. So we'll
go over nine and a half total corners over two
and a half goals and the Netherlands on the money line.
That is plus two fifty over at that MGM, wow, Wow.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Which sport would you say that you kind of pop into,
you know, like for example, I know around the majors,
you get you know your your state, you brush up
on you know golfers. Yeah, during the Euro and during
the World Cup you brush up on your soccer. I
mean we talked about this last week, this one. This
went to the group chat for us the Tour de France.

Speaker 7 (39:09):
Like, what.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
What sport when you dat out there and you study hard,
is most rewarding when you hit on That's a really
good question.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
So I think over time and you kind of I
developed kind of an internal clock with this stuff. So
it's kind of like you know the event's coming and
you have to prepare almost like an exam, Right, you
get your itinerary before the college semester starts, and you
know when the events are happening that you need to

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study up for every summer or every other or every
two summers. Right it's the Euro or excuse me, you
get the Euro and you get the World Cup. So
it's like an alternating every two years. I think that
is a big one in the summertime. And then the
golf majors, like you know, you know, right after the
NCAA tournament, I know, gearing up for the Masters. Like
it's kind of like an internal clock that just kind

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of wakes up when it's time to start studying go.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I like the research that you did, especially on the
corners just becoming a thing. Yeah, and the thing and
Turkey style is just so aggressive. I know these goals
have been at a premium and a lot of matches,
but I could see it going over today.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
I don't know on the Netherlands final one that would
hit the over. That'd be great for your parlay. Right
there you go? Yeah, absolutely, all right, come it up next.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Oh, prepare for our producer Bo Benson to hate this
next topic. What do Leem Neeson and the movie Taken
have to do with these two teams? We will let
you know here in just a minute. It is Fox
Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. Happy Saturday
to you. So it became official this week, fellas, Texas

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and Oklahoma official members of the SEC.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Yeah, yes, this league year. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
And uh, you know, so we look at college football here,
so you leave the Big twelve, you go to the SEC,
and it just reminds me of the movie Taken. Now,
this line isn't from Leam Neison the actor, but the
line is said to Leam Neison, and I think it
applies to both Texas and Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
It's this luck, good luck, good luck, good luck.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Navigating through that over there. And would you just start
looking at their schedules for this year. I mean Oklahoma
is up up against it, like you look at it.
Just as a gauge of where these teams might be
this year is look at their record from last season. Now,
this is college football, there's a lot of turnover. A

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team that had a good record could have a much
lesser one, and vice versa. But just as a gauge
of where this schedule might be for Oklahoma, you play
Tennessee who won nine games last year. You play at
LSU who won ten games. You're at Old miss and
at Missouri they both won eleven games. And oh, you

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get Texas at a neutral site, and then you get Alabama.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Both those teams won twelve games.

Speaker 8 (42:28):
That's what you have on this.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Schedule for Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
And it's a little bit more manageable for Texas, but
they're still at Michigan the Oklahoma game, and they pick
up Georgia. And I just looked, not necessarily in twenty
twenty four, but long term, to go from being a
big fish in a small, big twelve pond, it's the
opposite they are small fish in the big sea known

(42:54):
as the SEC.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
I just think both teams are.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Gonna have a hell of a time being not not
just like viable in the conference, but excelling navigating through
the SEC and then doing damage come playoff time.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
It's much more uphill now that they're in the SEC.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
I agree. I completely agree. And here's why.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
For as many of these SEC teams who you can
make the argument, well, they got to prepare for a
team that they're not used to seeing on their conference schedule.
That's true, but imagine that being every single week for you, Like,
that's what the deal is going to be for Texas
and for Oklahoma, the same way it's gonna be for

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USC and UCLA when they.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Joined the Big Ten or as a part of the
Big Ten, I should say.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
I mean, it's it's one of those things where when
you're playing and I remember, by the time I was
a fifth year senior, for example, right, so I red
shirted my my freshman year at Penn State, and then
I had I guess something like thirty starts under my

(44:01):
belt by the time I got to my senior year,
my fifth fall on campus at Penn State. Now, don't
get me wrong, Like you're not used to every single
road venue that you're going to play in, because you
you haven't played in every single conference road venue.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
But you're used to the to the scouting report. You're
used to the players who you're gonna face.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
A lot of the players you face, like you know,
I not everybody's a four year letterman, but there are
a lot of three year letterman. There's a lot of
two year letterman. You get used to seeing the same
faces on the scouting report. Oh that quarterback likes to
do this. Oh that defensive end he's got this one
spin move. I really got to look out for.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
You know. Oh, this running back, he's a bowling ball.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
We gotta we gotta bow up this week because he's
a handful even though he's he's there their second string
running back, Like, oh my gosh, when he get if
you let them get going on the inside gap run,
guess what, it's gonna be a steady dose of that.
You have none of those little scouting report things available
to you from from.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
The feel of the game.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
Yeah, you could find out a lot about teams on film,
but it's very different when you have experience playing against
these players. Coaching against these players, and that's a benefit
that Texas and Oklahoma do not have in the SEC.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Yeah. I agree.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
I think the piggyback for me off that And this
is again rudimentary experience. I don't quite have Rich's experience
in the Big Ten. But when I was working for
Florida Atlantic and we moved from the Sun Belt to
the American and the cities that you travel to are
just incredibly different.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:42):
I mean, you're talking about going from the Big twelve,
which is, you know, pretty much in the center of
the country, and you know, you get a lot of Texas,
you get a lot of Oklahoma. Iowa was in there,
and now you're traveling to a brand new city, new hotels,
new routine to get I remember when we went to
University of Louisiana Monroe, Monroe, Louisiana, and the team had

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already been there multiple times because they had you know,
it was my first year with the school, and I
remember stepping foot in Louisiana in Monroe, and I'm like,
where are we but like they already knew, all right, well,
here's where the hotel is and this is how far
it takes to get to the stadium, like, all of
that routine is all different now. And then you throw
in the fact that the new teams in the SEC

(46:29):
have really struggled, and they've struggled historically. For example, Arkansas
South Carolina, which was the first expansion in ninety two,
They've yet to win an SEC title in football, it's
been thirty two years. Missouri and A and M much
shorter time, twelve years. Obviously, neither of those teams have
won an SEC title. I think Missouri has been once
to the championship game but never have raised the trophy.

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It's just hard. It's just it's hard when you take
kids and coaches that are creatures of habit and routine
and you upheave the entire routine. So do I think
Alabama or excuse me, do I think Texas and Oklahoma
will perform better than Missouri and A and M, which
were the most recent additions to see. Yes, I think

(47:14):
the infrastructures are better, but I think there's gonna be
a learning curve, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, I think that Also. It's I don't want to
make the SEC sound like it's bulletproof or anything, but
the amount of NFL talent that comes from that conference
is indisputable, Like these aren't opinions, they're facts, Like they're
routinely leading and sometimes lapping the field in terms of

(47:40):
NFL talent, And I think that's what becomes difficult as well.
We can mention the top end teams. We can mention
the teams that have great records like Georgia or Alabama
or those type of schools, but I think if you
look at Texas and the last four games of their schedule,
it's not gonna be like a who's who. But when
you're going up against NFL talent on a consistent basis,

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that's where it becomes difficult as well. When you're closing
out with Florida at Arkansas, Kentucky at Texas, A and M. Individually,
maybe none of those teams make you go, oh gosh,
that's gonna be a tough game, but collectively, when you're
going up against that, that's where it really gets tough.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
It's the depth of the conference.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
And again, I don't want to make it sound like
it's bulletproof, but that is incredibly challenging to work through that.
But I think that listen, all three of us are
pretty much on the same page. And I think to
give the devil's advocate other side of the coin, our
trusted producer Bo Benson, who has been very vocal about
this issue off the air. I think we have to

(48:47):
hear from Bo Benson here on this one. What do
you think about this with Oklahoma and Texas joining the
big boys in the SEC?

Speaker 11 (48:53):
I mean, I understand that it's going to be difficult
and different. I just feel like the national discussion has
been like, well, Oklahoma's going to struggle and they are,
like their schedule this year sucks, like that's a brutal
welcome to the SEC. But they're also like historically a
top three football program like they have, there's no reason

(49:13):
to believe that Oklahoma won't succeed. But on the other side,
like we're talking about Texas, like, oh, it's you know,
it's Texas. They're gonna be fine. They couldn't win the
Big Twelve. Like ever they won the Big Twelve like twice,
and one of those times was because you know, they
got an extra second that they really should not have gotten,
like they were good last year, but like nothing about
Texas has been consistent, Like I would be unsurprised if

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Texas winning the SEC next year and had like another
classic five win Texas season after we spend an entire
offseason talking about how good they are.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
So it's just it's weird.

Speaker 11 (49:42):
I I don't understand why Texas gets the benefit of
the doubt but Oklahoma does not.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
But well that's where I am. I'm on your side
of this debate as well. I think Texas is going
to struggle too, I really do. I think both of
these teams. Listen, I don't know what the numbers are.
I don't know if we have numbers yet at Vegas
on season win totals, but I'd be willing to take
the under on both of these teams, just just based

(50:06):
on the concept. You know, I was only talking about
the players and the scouting reports and the feel for
the stadiums, like the on the field stuff, but all
the off the field stuff, like you know, the questions
you're gonna get asked, you know, the interview questions. It's
constant reminding. It almost becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Hey,

(50:30):
you guys are off to a one and two start
this season. Do you think it's because you're playing against
a new conference? And it's like, yeah, I don't know. Probably,
I mean leave me alone, like I've got to study
for all these classes.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
I gotta do this, gotta do that. And now we're
traveling to these far these these these.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
Foreign stadiums to us like some of these kids, I've
never played in any of these stadiums.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Or these cities.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
The travels different, everything's different, and you're going to be
dealing with these types of questions and these types of
emotions all season long. It's going to be a rough
ride for both the Sooners and the Longhorns. I promise
you it's not going to be if either of these
two teams are competitive in the SEC. If either of

(51:14):
these two teams have success, I mean give them their flowers,
because this is going to be a rough change for
both teams.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
So do you guys want you where do you think
the numbers are for Texas and Oklahoma? Where do you
think the win totals are? I'm on on GYM, I'm
on MGM's site right now.

Speaker 11 (51:32):
I would guess that Oklahoma is probably somewhere between seven
and a half.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Maybe I was going to say seven and a half.

Speaker 7 (51:38):
Good call seven and a half on Oklahoma, and the
juice is pretty much even on both sides. Texas is
ten and a half ye with plus money to the over.
Over ten and a half is plus one forty. Under
ten and a half's minus one sixty five, basically saying
about sixty percent they'll stay under ten and a half wins.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Does that sound right in your guys' mind? Absolutely it does.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, like the top end games Oklahoma Georgia at Michigan,
Michigan's gonna look a lot different.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
But let's just say they don't beat Georgia, right, they
can't lose another game, right?

Speaker 6 (52:13):
Like?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Is that right, Jared?

Speaker 7 (52:14):
Like?

Speaker 3 (52:14):
No, I mean when you go ten to you that
you don't go over ten and a half.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
You have to win eleven games in order to win
this bet, and I'd be willing to bet that you
can probably get you know, the prices vary from shop
to shop, but yeah, I'm I'm hammering that under. And
then here's some of the other numbers that are intriguing.
So Texas is plus seven to seventy five to win
the championship, not just to make the championship, not to

(52:41):
make the playoffs, just to win the championship. Their minus
two twenty five, which is saying like a seventy percent
implied probability for them just to make the playoff. Now
the playoffs expanded, so it's we have to, you know,
raise the bar accordingly, Oklahoma sixty to one to win
the championship, five to one to make the playoff.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
I think that's the bet.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
I'd be more interested in Oklahoma five.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
To one to make the playoff.

Speaker 7 (53:07):
What do we think?

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Got a tough schedule? It's very tough. That's why it's
five to one. Yeah, I don't like it. I go
back to this, I just I just don't see it
this year. I don't. And that's the thing, man, You
go back to the season win total for Oklahoma at
seven and a half. Yeah, eight and four is not

(53:30):
getting in.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah, you gotta get to ten, and you got to
get to nine. Yeah, at least nine at least have
a shot. But ten I think would get you.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
That's a good question too, like we because we usually
it's like, you got to go defeate it to make
the playoff. Now ten wins in the SEC probably in
probably yeah, probably in It's uphill though, man, absolutely uphill.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
All right, we've got rich orn Berger, Penn State All American.
We've got Jarrett Smith FSR betting analyst Brian No, actually
super super fast because I just remembered our guy Chris Burfett,
he had something on this or technical producer.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
I don't want to speed past him. He wants in no,
come join the party.

Speaker 12 (54:09):
I just on the case of Texas too, I'm I'm
genuinely curious what we're going to get with another year
of Quinn youewers. I don't think it just lineared growth up,
and most NFL people I talk to have been kind
of I don't know. I was playing around with like
some mock draft simulators and none of them think very
highly of Quinn you Weers at this point, like PFF
and and all the rest, Like I don't it seems

(54:31):
like it's a performance. Is that Texas is really going
to be begging to try to repeat, especially in much
better competition. It just it just never really pans out.
I'd much rather stock put stock in someone like Oregon
going to the Big ten right now, and the Big
ten is good. It's just you know, Oregon has been
primed for a lot of success here with taking advantage

(54:52):
of the transfer portal and Landing being one of the
better coaches right now in college.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Football, like it just Hillan Gabriel, Dylan Caper.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah. You know, really, what's funny is with betting, I'll
have a team that maybe just completely screwed me, or
there's a prop bet that was right there for the
taking and it went south.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
And I'm like, it's a painful memory.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
When I hear quinn yours, Jared, I think of you,
and I think of your successful ladder and passing yardage
in a bowl game?

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Who was that?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Was it against Missouri?

Speaker 4 (55:26):
Missed?

Speaker 7 (55:27):
So the bowl games are the best, I think it will.
I forget who they played that I don't even care.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
All I know is it was maybe.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Could have been playing the for all I care.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Oh it was gosh, I'm trying to figure out what
game the al Yes it was, but who was getting Yeah,
I didn't think you might be right.

Speaker 7 (55:54):
It might be Missouri. It was a big, big twelve
sec That makes sense with the Alamo Bowl.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, oh man, craziness. But at least I have one
good memory through you winning a bet.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
We'll get some better bets next year.

Speaker 7 (56:07):
It's crazy to think guys like college football like we're
kind of here, like it's in a month, we're going
to be like, right there, it's basically right around the corner.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
It's beautiful right there, all right.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Coming up next a heartfelt goodbye that we want to
share with you around the corner. It is Fox Sports Saturday,
right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday,
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
So listen.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I'm not a huge sports movie guy, as much as
I love sports, because sometimes sports movies can get pretty cheesy,
you know. So I have exceptions here and there, but
generally not a huge sports movie fan. But I say
that because every now and then you could miss a
great moment because you're like, oh, it's a little bit

(56:56):
too cheesy over here. I bring this up because of
Clay Thompson. Klay Thompson is no longer with the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
He's joined the.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Dallas Mavericks, and he posted a heartfelt goodbye to the
Warriors and the fans and all of that on Instagram,
and I just wanted to share it because sometimes I
feel like we could be like, oh, so choose, and
sometimes we're just missing cool moments, you know. And so
Klay Thompson, he wrote, oh, Bay Area, there are not

(57:24):
enough words and images to convey how I really feel
about y'all. From the bottom of my heart. Thank you
so much for the best times of my life. It
was such an honor to put that Dubb's jersey on.
From day one, I really just wanted to be the
best I could be and help bring as many championships
as possible to the region. The best part was not
the rings, though, it was the friendships I made that

(57:46):
will last a lifetime. My family and I would like
to thank all of the amazing people who worked tirelessly
to make the Warriors organization world class. Don't be sad
it's over. Be happy it happened until we meet again.
Sea Captain out a great tagline there. He loves to

(58:06):
sail around, so he's known as the sea Captain. I
didn't know that, Kun, Yeah, but that I just love
that where I don't know, sometimes we get too involved
in Hey, this guy's making X amount of money and
this and that, and we just moved too fast from
the relationships that occur. And I just love that Klay

(58:29):
Thompson took the time and it was heartfelt. It wasn't
this Hey, it was fun, just wasn't real fun. That
was legitimately heartfelt.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Yeah, yeah, and you'd expect that.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
Look, there are times where these city goodbyes or area goodbyes,
because in this case it is an area the Bay
Area are supporters, proud supporters of the Golden State Warriors.
I mean, during his tenure there, they moved from one arena,
from one pro I'm in an area of the Bay

(59:01):
Area to the other. Uh So this this is very
much so heartfelt message Tody of the Bay Area going
from Oakland to San Francisco in his time.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
It's what's interesting about these goodbyes is sometimes it feels
like a team of public relations writers or agents were
more involved. In this case, it felt like it was
mostly Clay. You know, it felt like that's probably a
genuine sentiment from from Clay.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Thompson to the fan base, which is cool.

Speaker 7 (59:37):
Yeah, is Brian getting nostalgic on me over here?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
I didn't know that you had those vibes in you, Brian.
I thought it was all exist anger and rage. You
don't know me very well.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (59:49):
And that's why I love when we get to do
these should I get to peel back the layers of
the Brian no onion.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
No, I think this is a this is heartfelt.

Speaker 7 (59:57):
I there does there is a little corniness in using
these emotions, but I think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
We are so like we're so too cool for school
these days.

Speaker 7 (01:00:08):
Is a society that I appreciate when people show us
who they really are. And it's kind of funny because
Kevin Durant, who gets a lot of criticism about, you know,
maybe being too vulnerable sometimes with you know, his his
feelings and his emotions, chimed in and and and kind
of tied a nice bow on this called Klay Thompson

(01:00:29):
a Bay Area god in his farewell post to Clay.
And yeah, I mean I think that's a very fair sentiment.
This is an end of an era in the NBA.
You get a franchise that is kind of the window
has officially closed. It is being slam shut and locked,
and we don't know if it's going to be open again.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
But this is the end of right.

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
We saw kd leave a couple of years ago, and
and you know, now it's it's it's Clay, and it's
there's only one left standing from that dynasty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Now, I guess you want to count Steve Kerr. But
in terms of players on the floor.

Speaker 7 (01:01:05):
And I'll be honest, I didn't love the way that
the Warriors handled the way the last year or so.
You know, I think they overreached a little bit on
Wiseman when they drafted him. And I don't think they
really did a great job with the Chris Paul thing
and basically giving him away for nothing and you know
everything they gave up to get him. So it just
we've kind of seen this Warriors team Evan flow and yeah,

(01:01:26):
this you know, the farewell captain, Oh captain, my captain
for Klay Thompson. Like I know Steph is still there,
but it feels like this is really the end of
this Warriors dynasty this year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Yeah, no, it is. It's completely different with Klay Thompson
being gone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
They picked up Buddy Healed, so they're gonna still be
jacking up threes, there's no doubt about that. But I
like what you brought up, Rich where it sounded just
like Clay. It sounded like Clay just wrote it out
and it didn't seem like he had any help. If
he did, they did good job. It blows my mind,
especially when an athlete gets in some type of legal

(01:02:05):
charm and the statement comes out and you can tell
it's not from him at all. I would hope that
the lawyers in the inner circle would be better at
writing the statement where it sounds like it's halfway from
the athlete, you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
It just starts off and it's like four score and
seven years ago, and it's like, that's not him at all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
What are you guys doing? It happens so often in sports.
They gotta get way better at that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
Mean it's very strange when you see an athlete who
also hasn't really ingratiated himself to.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Like a city or a.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
Fan base, right like this long drawn out, like ten
page Instagram, you know, photo share and like you're like really,
like we like, did the city really need a goodbye
from this guy?

Speaker 7 (01:02:57):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
And I don't want to embarrass anybody.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
But we've all read a lot of these where it's like, wow,
what are we doing here? But but look, I understand
it from a standpoint of branding and brand management and
public relations, there are certain, let's just say, boxes that
need to be checked in order to make sure that

(01:03:20):
everybody is happy, that nobody is suspicious that maybe you're
not what you say you are. So if you you know,
if you purportedly you know, if you're a good guy
and you do good, good guy things and you know,
good people would say goodbye to a fan base and
you don't do it, and it doesn't seem sincere are
you actually a good guy?

Speaker 7 (01:03:38):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
Does whoever it is, does kind bar energy bars want
to do business with you anymore if you don't have
that same image, you know. So, I don't know, It's
just one of those things where I feel like in
certain cases, athletes or influencers, they they feel like they
have to do certain things to appear He's people. Yeah,

(01:04:01):
and that is I mean, that is the root of disingenuineness.
That's obviously inauthentic. But Clay obviously enjoyed his time being
a part of the Splash Brothers, part of the Warriors dynasty,
part of what made the Bay Area over the span

(01:04:23):
of time that he was there special, you know, because
without the Warriors and the magic that they created, I mean,
the San Francisco forty nine ers during this stint have
been good. But you remember how desperate it looked before
Shanahan and Lynch showed up on the scene.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
I mean the Oakland Raiders while they were still there.

Speaker 6 (01:04:43):
I mean, it's always been pretty bleak for the A's
like it's it's The Giants had their time during the
twenty tens, but the Warriors really brought to magic to
that area of the country, and without Klay Thompson, they
certainly would not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Have been able to Yes, Sharks want a Stanley Cup too.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
You don't want to forget oh Santo.

Speaker 7 (01:05:04):
Yeah, San Jose, And I know that's kind of the
forgotten part of the Bay Area sometimes, but that's ah,
it was a really good run in the in the
early twenty tens. There was saying it with the Sharks
winning it in twenty sixteen, and then the Giants had
their nice little run there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
I struggle with the with the the creator vibe that
you were alluding to a little bit rich because on
a daily basis, I feel like if I don't give
out bets, I didn't do my job. And like, you know,
everyone takes a day off, everyone takes but there's no
days off in baseball unless you get to the All
Star break. So that's something that I battle with every day,
is to you know, appease the masses. So they don't

(01:05:41):
come for me and pitchforks. If I'm not giving out
good bets, people get really upset. But did you write
a goodbye note or a goodbye post for any of
your times changing teams?

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Rich, I'm curious.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
I don't think so. I don't. You just went with it, man,
you just like screw you guys. I'm gone.

Speaker 6 (01:05:59):
I mean, I just I never felt well, don't get
me wrong, like I felt a connection to New England
and the Patriots fans specifically, because you know, when you
get drafted to a team and it's the first team
that you're cut by, like you know, there there is
this feeling of like wow, that that chapter's closed and

(01:06:21):
who knows what's next for me? And but my next
stop was with the Arizona Cardinals, and I was only
I lived in Phoenix for nine months. I mean I
literally felt like a mercenary, like I was. I was
hired to do a job, got in, got out, you know,
and it was Don't get me wrong, I love my

(01:06:42):
time in Phoenix. But like, you don't really connect yourself
to a fan base the way you would if you're
you know, playing for a decade in a place like
Clay Thompson where and then by the way, and then
he was an integral part of the story of the
Warriors again without Clay tom Up, you know, they wouldn't
have had nearly as many special times in that city

(01:07:05):
without him, you know, the parades. I mean, he was
literally fabric of that community for the time he was there.
I don't know if the twenty twelve fan base of
the Arizona Cardinals knew if number seventy two was on
the field or not, you know, I mean, it's just
I mean I was in and out of that place,
so you know, No, it didn't feel when my career ended,

(01:07:26):
though I did feel a little something, you know, when
I when I knew it was over, I knew I
was retiring. I eventually got around to having my story
told in it. It was actually by ballet time. Sam
Farmer picked up on a long thread that I tweeted

(01:07:46):
out kind of admonishing Indianapolis fans for the way they
handled Andrew lux retirement, you know, saying that you have
no idea how much goes into being a football player
and how much he had been through because a lot
of his career was marred by pretty severe injuries and
for fans to find out that he was retiring in

(01:08:09):
a leaked tweet, I think by schefter who sourced it
and then boom them off the field in his last time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
In a Colt's uniform.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
I thought was classless, and so I wrote this long
thread and my retirement story ended up in the La
Times as a result of it. And it's like kind
of my way of saying goodbye. You know, everybody has
their way of saying goodbye.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Clay's I thought. I think Klay Thompson did it with
a tremendous amount of class.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Well, the Shark's loss to the Penguins and that Stanley Cup.

Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
I'm sorry to get all the San Jose fans all
riled up there, but it made it to the Stanley
Cup finals.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
They didn't win it, but I think that's still pretty
good for San Jose.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Yeah, well pretty good for us as we have Isaac
lohan Kron. You know, Klay Thompson says bye to the
Bay Area.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
We say hello to Isaac lohen Kron, and we actually
have leading off here.

Speaker 10 (01:09:02):
A rich Ornberger Arizona update from the archives. This from
two thousand and twelve. Ornberger, known as one of the
funniest men in all of football. Quote looks like a
middle aged comic with a barrel chest and full head

(01:09:23):
of gray hair, despite being just twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Is that a real line?

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
That is a real awesome line?

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
Let me guess as written by Josh Weinfist, barrel chested
freedom fine Rich Ornberger.

Speaker 10 (01:09:38):
Let's see here. It doesn't say, but I'm guessing it
was Josh Winefist. It goes on and I didn't even
know about this quote. Like any good comic, Ornberger is
collecting new material all the time. He's filled about one
hundred pages of a notebook with jokes, quips, one liners.

(01:10:00):
Anything that comes to mind?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Is that cool? Where's that notebook?

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:10:03):
I have no idea, but yeah, at a time, there
was a long part of my young life where I
thought I would be, or at very least attempt to
be a stand up comic.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
I get that ship has sailed.

Speaker 7 (01:10:17):
And I can see it, though I honestly can't. I
have some friends who are comics, and you fit the bill.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
It was, uh, yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
I mean, I'm addicted to comedy. I watch all the specials.
You know, George Carlin is a hero?

Speaker 10 (01:10:31):
Absolutely, Yeah, George Carlin. Yep, thanks to YouTube, so much
of that is there? Another highlight on YouTube what happened
with the richest San Diego Padres last night. They entered
the bottom of the ninth inning trailing Arizona ten to
eight jerks and Profar led off to tie the game
with a home run, and then later with one man
on Manny Machado came to the plate. Here's don Orsillodel.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Fields sat against.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
It up.

Speaker 10 (01:11:07):
Also Friday night, Will Smith of the Los Angeles Dodgers
hit three home runs and an eight to five win
over the Milwaukee Brewers and the NBA. ESPN reported a
short time ago, free agent forward Caleb Martin finalizing a
deal with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. In soccer, the
quarterfinals of Euro twenty twenty four continue at noon Eastern

(01:11:27):
as England takes on Switzerland. Finally fell as in cycling
at the Tour de France, the International Cycling Union fined
French writer Julian Bernard two hundred Swiss francs about two
hundred and twenty three dollars American for pausing in the
road during the race to kiss his wife. The International

(01:11:53):
Cycling Union said in a statement that Bernard's behavior was
inappropriate and damaged the image of the sport. I don't
remember them saying that about doping, but anyway, Bernard tweeted,
and I quote, I'm sorry for damaging the image of
the sport, but I'm willing to pay two hundred Swiss

(01:12:14):
francs every day to experience.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
This moment again.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Back to you, guys, husband of the Year.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Yes, it is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox
Sports Radio. By the way, this is why I love
about gambling. There's so much space to cover, and inevitably
there are gonna be some spaces where you're like, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
I bring this up because Greece is taking on Slovenia
an Olympic basketball qualifying So we've got Giannis against Luca, right, Like, so,
what do you think the point spread was initially for
this matchup?

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
What would you get? I would have right? No, wow,
Greece minus six and a half. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
And uh, Jannis and Greece have the upper hand early on.
We're halfway through the first quarter and Greece is up
fifteen to two.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Oh, I guess the number was right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Gets SLOVENI on the lifeline if you would like, yeah,
if you would like to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
I know nothing about international basketball.

Speaker 7 (01:13:23):
Nothing I do know Slovenia is they were pretty decent
in soccer the other day they've had they had a
good little run.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
On the on the pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I love looking through these points spread so much because
I have no idea. Well, it's like the Bahamas are
taking on Lebanon.

Speaker 7 (01:13:40):
The Bahamas against like Lebanon.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
What do you think the point spread would be between
Lebanon and the Bahamas.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
I would hope the Bahamas are favored.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
I would hope so too. But what the crazy thing
about it is?

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
Can you tell me the like the population of Lebanon
probably like the size of Delaware.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Ye, Like, who the hell knows?

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
All right, I'm gonna say Bahamas favored by fourteen and
a half.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Fourteen not a bad guess what do you think of you, guys?

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I would say ten Bahamas minus twenty three three.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
They're favored by twenty three points over Lebanon.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
I like some of this.

Speaker 7 (01:14:23):
I have no like Detroit Mercy against Wisconsin Green Bay,
some of those weird Horizon League lines.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
It is interesting, though, that Yannis he missed the NBA playoffs.
He's playing for Team Grease. I'm sure that the Bucks
are like but they don't dare.

Speaker 7 (01:14:39):
Say nos not to play for Team Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Pretty much. Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
He sat out the Canadians the Canadian men's basketball team's
training camp in Toronto, and so he's not eligible for
the Olympic team. And the Warriors said it was it
was a mutual decision. But Team Canada is ticked off.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
It do mutual.

Speaker 7 (01:15:02):
I don't think Wiggins, I don't think that's mutual. That's
not There's no way Wiggins said no. I'm sure he asked,
and the Warriors said no.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Yeah, but it's a little bit of a different tax
bracket with Giannis, you know what I mean, who could
say I'm over this like small market thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
I want to go to New York.

Speaker 7 (01:15:20):
You know, you have a contract thing. He probably hasn't
any deal like Joanness can say yes to that stuff.
And I'm sure the international players when they come over,
that would be something that I would want negotiated in
my contract. I want to be able to go back
home and play for my country whenever, whenever I see fit.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
By the way, also, sometimes players like you know they'll
use an opportunity like this. It might have been Wiggins.
Wiggins could have gone to the organization and.

Speaker 6 (01:15:45):
Said, hey, please have my back, like just just say
that you're fifty percent on board with this as well,
that it was a mutual decision I not play.

Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
You know, do you think that Klay Thompson Thon had
anything to do with it, like, hey, we're about to
lose Clay.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
We can't afford to get you hurt in Canada.

Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
Could have been generated by the Warriors like they they
made it put out the ask like hey, before you
go rolling an ankle.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Yeah, it could have been. It could have been.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Yeah, all right, it's a bonding time coming up next,
prop it Up? We will look at the prop bet market.
We've got Rich Heronberger, Penn State, All American, Jared Smith
FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No hang with us right here.
It's Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. It is
Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Let's dive into.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
This prop it up player plays.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Okay, the prop bet market, let's get after it. Jared,
We'll start with you. What are you thinking today?

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
Picture prop baby?

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
All right, we're gonna focus on this Rai's Rangers game.
I think both pictures are ripe for the pickings. Here
Andrew Heeney for the Rangers, we're gonna go under seventeen
and a half out. He's gone under this in kin
of sixteen starts, coming off of a really good outing.
I was on this under against the Orioles a few
days ago.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
He went over.

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
Andrew heeni pitched a great game against the Orioles. I
don't know if he's gonna be able to do that
two straight starts against another really good American League East team,
The Rays second in Baseball in pitches, seene high strikeout team.
All of that means the pitch count for he and
he's gonna be high.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
I also like TODG.

Speaker 7 (01:17:16):
Bradley, the other pitcher in this game on the other side,
for the Rais, to go over five and a half strikeouts.
This dude throws smoke, and he's gone over this in
eight of his ten starts this year. Rangers about an average,
maybe slightly above average strikeout rate team.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
They're gonna throw a lot of lefties in.

Speaker 7 (01:17:30):
The lineup too, and Bradley has a really good change
up against lefties, so I think Bradley over five and
a half strikeouts. He Ney under seventeen and a half outs.
Put in a parlay if you want, why not.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Pitcher prop as well? Here I got one for you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:42):
It's gonna focus on this San Diego Padres Arizona Diamondbacks
game today. First pitch six to forty West coast time.
It'll be an afternoon start on the East coast. Matt
Waldron the knuckleballer for the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Friars, right San Diego Padre pitcher.

Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
He's been a capable arm in the rotation unexpectedly so
didn't know if he was going to be a starting
pitcher or starting pitcher caliber type player this season. This
is his first real test and he's passed the test.
He's a sub four guy. He got roughed up a
little bit toward the end of the month of June,

(01:18:19):
but overall he's been very dependable in this one area.
If you want to bet unders un hits allowed under
five and a half, I'm taking it five and a
half hits allout for Matt Waldron in this game against
the Diamondbacks today.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Okay, I'm looking at the Cleveland Guardians. I am all
about the Guardians.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Today and the first play, I'm looking at Jose Ramirez,
who is a fantastic hitter and hid absolutely nothing yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
He just had a rough game, and so I'm taking
him to bounce back.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I'm gonna take total bases over one and a half
for Jose Ramirez Today. They're facing the Giants, and the
Giants have been really good lately. The opposing pitcher is
Kyle Harrison, who's been all right, nothing spectacular eer just
under four respectable. But I think this Guardian's offense, they
were zerover eleven with runners in scoring position yesterday. Wow,

(01:19:18):
it's really hard to beat them on the road, like
when they're in Cleveland. They've got a fantastic record. They
are this season at home twenty eight and eleven, and
so it was just a rough one yesterday. I'm gonna
take them to bounce back and leading the charge. I've
got Jose Ramirez over one and a half total bases.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (01:19:39):
So I struggle with hit with batter props sometimes, like
I've gone back and forth which props are like veteran
baseball hitter or pitcher. I tend to stay away from
hitter props because I feel like I can be pitched
around a lot more. Yeah, but I do like certain spots,
especially if guys are coming off of bad games and
they really get it's all matchup dependent. I'll give you

(01:19:59):
a plum this funny one in his Dodgers game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Maybe Bo likes this one.

Speaker 7 (01:20:02):
Freddy Peralta under seventeen and a half outs stayed under
this in nine of the last thirteen starts. Do we
think Paralta's gonna go six innings against the Dodgers tonight?
Dodgers see a lot of pitches plus money. Yeah, I
don't mind that under seventeen and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
Outs they wear out starting pitchers. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah, and that happened to me with Jordan Alvarez. He
was scorching hot against Toronto. They pitched around him and
then he got plunked twice. Hit not the greatest headline
for team Hornberger. Next, Ah, good morning, happy Saturday. So
you hope your day is going great. So I've got some.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
I've got some not so great news for you, Rich Hornberger.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
What wekay?

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Okay, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
We had some fun with this on the text thread
throughout the week. But just to set this up, Riches
of the opinion that one day, in the not too
distant future, sports gambling is going to change in a
big way, maybe to the point where professional athletes are

(01:21:08):
able to bet on their respective sport and maybe their
respective team. Right, Okay, so I disagree, but that's Rich's position,
and that's fine. Reasonable minds can disagree.

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
No issue here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
But there was a story this week that caught my attention. Rich.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
So this is former raptor John Tay Porter. So we
know he's been suspended indefinitely. Some look at it as
a lifetime ban from the NBA because he was gambling
on NBA games, among other things. And one of the
things he was giving inside information to some of these

(01:21:47):
gamblers and he was like, quote unquote, according to the story,
into deep like he had he had a tab of
gambling debts, and so they're like, Okay, we got an idea.
How about you just mysteriously leave a game early and
we'll just hammer the under on all your player props.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
So he's in hot water for that. He's facing federal charges.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
He's facing a felony in connection with this betting scandal
that led to this lifetime ban or this indefinite suspension
from the NBA. So in terms of maybe being able
to gamble on your sport one day, we are far
away from that happening if it ever does happen, and
I don't think it ever will.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
Well, I.

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
Don't disagree with the thought process that we may still
be far away from it. But never say never, because
there's a lot of people who said, oh, I mean,
athletes will never be able to smoke dope.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
Oh yeah, while they're playing. Ricky Williams, he's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:22:54):
He's a pot addict, like you know, okay, yeah, and
maybe he had a little bit of an addiction or
maybe he still does to marijuana. I don't know, but
everybody looked at that situation and they were like, my goodness, like,
you know this guy, you know, he's on this voyage
to try to.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Take away the demonization of this.

Speaker 6 (01:23:19):
Drug that there are clear rules that stipulate he wasn't
allowed to use during the course of his playing career,
and how ridiculous to retire over it, and blah blah blah,
and here we are. I mean, the headlines next to
this Jontae Bordi border headline are headlines about how all
these leagues are lifting and loosening their rules on cannabis

(01:23:40):
usage at the college level as well. You know it's
being discussed, So I think, like the the times are changing. Nil,
speaking of college football, college athletics, name, image and likeness,
athletes getting paid at the collegiate level. Not five years ago,
there was a chorus of people who were covering sports,

(01:24:03):
intelligent sports watching reporters, commentators, sports broadcasters who said, never, never,
will college athletes be paid.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
It's just never gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (01:24:17):
Well, here we are five years later, and it's happening.
So I think in this case, yeah, it looks really
bad for Jontay Porter and he did something that regardless
of whether rules are loosen in the future, I don't
think they'll ever be room for in any of sport
because you will completely destroy the integrity of any sports
league where this is allowed.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
But what I do think may happen in the future
is very specific. Bets may be allowed to be made.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
Like if you are I don't know a player A,
you know, working with Sportsbook B playing for Team C,
you may be able to say, hey, I player A
and Sportsbook B is it's a great place to place
bets and I'm betting that Team C is gonna win
it all this season, and you can bet my back

(01:25:07):
my bet at sportsbook b you know, and then there's
a big smile, and then it's all over social media
that this you know, star quarterback or star point guard
is backing his team to the tune of I don't know,
fifty thousand dollars of his own money or one hundred
thousand dollars of his own money to go all the
way to the Super Bowl or all the way to the.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
NBA Championship Game. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
I just I feel like in the not so distant future,
because of the marketing aspect of that, that is going
to be legalized.

Speaker 7 (01:25:40):
Oh boy, all right, I'll tell a story first then
and i'll give some opinion. So the story in twenty fifteen,
and I'm sure a lot of you have heard this story.
It's kind of a gambling legendary story of a one
point eighty in terms of a public stance on sports betting.
In twenty fifth the NFL pulled Tony Romo from speaking

(01:26:02):
at a fantasy football conference.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
I don't know what the conference was.

Speaker 7 (01:26:05):
It was something fantasy sports related, and Tony Romo was
it was here in Las Vegas. Tony Romo was scheduled
to speak at it, and the NFL said, no way,
we can't have you even affiliated with betting in any
way fantasy gambling.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
No, Tony, go away, don't do it.

Speaker 7 (01:26:25):
And then five years later at the NFL moved to
Vegas and had a team in Vegas, and then last
year the Super Bowl was at Vegas. So it the
ability to progress in terms of the timeline of events,
it can happen. I'm not ruling it out, but I
think the current climate we are in, which has become

(01:26:49):
very controversial in terms of current athletes betting on the
sport that they are playing in, it's a little it's
it's almost like the phrase too soon, right. I think
we're too soon to get there. Maybe we will eventually
get into a climate because you're talking about the marijuana thing,

(01:27:09):
and I agree that was, you know, transformative legislature that
now not only professional athletes, collegiate athletes. The NCAA also
removed that this was like a twenty thirty year process.
We're kind of in year three or four of the
gambling experiment in this country. We've got a long ways
to go. I tell people. We're in like the top

(01:27:31):
of the third inning. Maybe when we get to the
seventh inning stretch, this will be on the table. But
we haven't even finished our first hot dog yet. We
still have to get to the second part of our
you know, pregame, postgame, in game meal.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
We're not there yet, but I.

Speaker 7 (01:27:46):
Could see something in those lines happening, but the current
climate we are in will prevent it from even being
talked about for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Okay, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Rich and I we disagree like brothers from time to time.
I feel like we have a lot of love for
each other, like brothers do. I'll say this and you
sometimes in sports, never say never. It'll never, ever, ever,
ever ever happened in professional sports that athletes are able

(01:28:21):
to bet on their sport.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
It'll never happen because they's from a marketing standpoint, never ever, ever, ever, ever.

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
They said the same thing about Vegas and gambling in
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
They that's that's a step toward it. That doesn't mean
that you're gonna pull vault over. This next hurdle takes time.
We're not there yet.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
It takes time. There's just so much that can go wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
That's the thing as soon as you open the door
to hey, this NFL player can bet on NFL games, Well,
guess what, you can start fading your team. You can
do what John tay Porter did and he was in
debt and the uh one of these people said, hey,
how about, uh, how about you settle this with a special?

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
And he's like, with a special?

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
How about you intentionally exit games early and we're in
the know and we're gonna bet the under and boom,
your debts are settled.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Right, They got greedy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
They made a million dollars by betting the under and
it praised redflex so stupid. But the point is there's
just so much more harm to be done than good.
And like we could talk about Ricky Williams and weed
and how much we've come up from that, but we
never threatened the authenticity of results.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
That's the difference right there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
When Tim donaghue, when that happened, they're like audio, smouchacho,
get the hell out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
It wasn't like, hey, it's so you know, we're in
the gambling day and age.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
No, if that happened today with where gambling is, if
you had Tim donaghe happen all over again, Adam Silver
wouldn't be like, well, times have changed, you know, people,
bet what's the big deal you can't have as a
professional league the authenticity of your games being in question.
It can't happen. And so there's no way they're ever

(01:30:16):
going to make that step toward it happening. John day
Porter is facing a felony in connection with all this stuff.
Like you realize how far that's not on a sports scale,
that's on a legal scale. There's no way the league.
I don't know if the leagues could even legally do it.
Like really, so it'll never happen.

Speaker 6 (01:30:34):
Well, I okay, I bak it saying never, But I
do agree with you. We're probably and Jared frankly because
I agree with the analogy to baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
We're in the early innings here.

Speaker 6 (01:30:46):
You know, talk to me in twenty years though, you know,
I mean because twenty years ago with the marijuana issue
in sports, I mean, we are this close to having
a cannabis country company earned naming rights to one of these.

Speaker 7 (01:31:00):
Oh, that's definitely gonna happen, you know what I mean.
That's rich, that's one hundred percent happening.

Speaker 6 (01:31:05):
It's going to be eas dot Com Stadium where the
you know, the Alabama Crimson Tide are going to be
taking on the Citadel.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
It's going to be something like that. That's all of
these what do you what do you want to call them?

Speaker 7 (01:31:21):
Like the thirty five billion dollar industry. It's a huge
indistactly but hey.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
Real fast, Rich building up of what you're talking about
in Portland is my favorite weed company ever.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
Okay, the name of it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
So the area code is five oh three, the name
of the place was five oh tree.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
I love.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
I would love for the Motus Center where the Blazer's
play to be renamed.

Speaker 8 (01:31:43):
Center five cent Center.

Speaker 7 (01:31:48):
It's going to happen, guys, just like the gambling, Just
like every single commercial you see during an NFL game
is sportsbook this that that the the exact same thing
is gonna happen. But now that marijuana has been legalized
in a lot of these sports, it's just a matter
of time.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
I think where you got you guys are kind of
on opposite islands with your arguments. Like Brian is really
coming at it from a legal standpoint, and I agree
with his argument, where Rich is coming at it from
a marketing standpoint, and I do think the rules are
a little bit i'll call them flimsier when you're dealing
with something that's strictly for marketing. Like that's why the

(01:32:27):
disclaimers exist, and that's why anytime I do a segment
for bet MGM, like we do these segments that we
air every week, you know, you might see them on
social media during the football season when we do those picks, the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Disclaimers and the language that.

Speaker 7 (01:32:40):
Gets put on the clips and on the tweets and everything,
it's very heavy language for those reasons, like we are,
you know, we're protecting our own booties, just to make
sure that nobody sues us for something stupid. And I
think that's the level of let's call it legalization that
Rich is referring to. It's not like Dak Prescott going

(01:33:02):
to the sports book and dealing with all these shady
people like John deay Porter did, like, it's very much
pristine and and everything's kind of keys cross and I
got it. I don't think we're going to get there,
but I'm not willing to say we will never get there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
I am we'll never get there ever. And that's the
last thing I'll say, Yeah, is to me, this would
be just a last ditch effort if you could even
legally do that. And I'm not convinced you could have
your athletes in your respective sport bet on their respective sport, right,

(01:33:38):
but this would be like a fledgling league or a
league that no one's paying attention to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
This is not the NFL agreed with that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Yeah, if it's like the NWSL and like league, no
one's watching our games, Let's just have our athletes bet
on the sport, you know, Let's just do some thing
that's unconventional and get some attention and maybe it'll help us.
That would make sense, But NBA, NFL coms.

Speaker 6 (01:34:10):
Well, here's here's the last thing I'll say is, you know,
we talk about what the implications of this story are
on sports overall, how about the implications on Johntay Porter's life.
I mean, this guy twenty four years old makes a mistake,
and I will call it a mistake because you can

(01:34:33):
get convinced to do a lot of stupid things. Were
makes a mistake that is going to follow him the
rest of his life. Now he's a grown man and
he's capable of decision making and I get it, and
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:47):
And you know, twenty four years old, you are you
are plenty responsible for yourself at that point in life.
But my goodness, getting tied up in something like this,
I don't know who or why he did this. You
know what allegiances he had to the people who were
placing these bets. If this was for his own personal gain,

(01:35:08):
or this was because he got in trouble with the
wrong people and he felt like he owed people that
certain things. I mean, what an awful story, because you're
talking about this guy. I mean, he could live till
he's ninety years old. He's gonna be thinking about something
he did when he was twenty four to twenty three
years old the rest of his life.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
It's just terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:35:29):
It's so terrible, and it's the reason why I think
part of me agrees with you, Brian, that sports leagues
will do everything they can to keep it church and
state like.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
We will never have a mix. It's you know, treat
it like religion and government.

Speaker 6 (01:35:43):
We really cannot have them mix otherwise, you know, there's
corruptible powers at play.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
We'll see though. I mean, money is really what makes
the world go round, so we'll see.

Speaker 6 (01:35:57):
But but I that's the reason why I lean in
your direction, at least in the short term, that it
doesn't feel like it ever will happen. But I'd never
say never because money. When we're talking about the amounts
of money involved in sports betting and gambling in general,
my goodness, I mean, they they air conditioned to desert.

Speaker 4 (01:36:18):
That's all I'll say.

Speaker 7 (01:36:19):
If we're still doing this show, whenever we get to
a point that the culture and maybe the climate is there,
then I'm very grateful for that. But to a lesser extent,
this is why when we do the parlay platter, when
we give out the picks every week, we're not telling
you to make a whale megalock bet on these games
like it is. This is the gambling side of sports

(01:36:43):
is to me a slippery slope. I think people who
are fans, they're short. It's fanash short for fanatic. And
when you are very invested in your team emotionally, that
can bleed over into the financial realm where you're not
making logical decisions. You need to separate not only church

(01:37:05):
and state when it comes to the teams betting on
the players, betting on their teams. You need to separate
your personal emotions from your teams when you're making your bets.
That's what Johntay Porter didn't do. He was unable to
separate those two and he got in with the wrong
people and it got out of control. And that's why
we will always preach discipline and control when we're talking

(01:37:27):
about gambling here on this show.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
If it ever happens where athletes can bet on their
own sport, I will eat a parlay plattern.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Okay, you guys, just figure out what it is and
I'll eat it.

Speaker 13 (01:37:39):
It's mayonnaise and the car. Yeah, I'll just use that
to wash it down because it's not happening ever ever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Rich Ornberger fen State All American with US Jared Smith
FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no coming up next. How
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Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
So I was thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
If you look at the landscape of the NFL, how
many quarterbacks are still in the honeymoon phase right, meaning
they aren't getting heavily criticized for either a lack of
individual numbers or a lack of team wins, you know,
getting far into the playoffs, like.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Who are the quarterbacks? Where it's still the honeymoon phase,
where it's like, you know, shrug the shoulders, it's okay,
not incredibly high expectations just yet. It is a short list, man.
I think you can name off a few, just a handful.
I think CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Stroud with the Texans YEP is still there, right, honeymoon phase.
I think that Jordan with the Packers is still there.
It's really good first season, starting through one of the
worst playoff interceptions I've ever seen in my lifetime against
the forty nine Ers.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
No one cared. I was like, you only need a
field goal to tie it up.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
You threw late over the middle of the field, one
of the easiest interceptions.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
No one cared.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
It was like, yeah, but did you see him against
the Cowboys. Still the honeymoon phase for Jordan Love. I
think Jaden Daniels rookie with the Washington Commanders, of course,
I think he's in the honeymoon phase. I don't know
that anybody else is. Seriously, if you look around the NFL,
it's like, nope, nope, nope, nope.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Is Josh Allen in the honeymoon face? Nope? We need
a deep layoff run. Is Tua there?

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
Nope?

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
Is Aaron Rodgers there?

Speaker 4 (01:39:42):
Nope?

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
We need another ring. It's just nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,
almost all across the league. If you can find one more,
I'm open to it. I think I've got one.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Who is it?

Speaker 7 (01:39:53):
Burrow?

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Hmm? No, No, I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (01:39:56):
But but if hold on, let me because I agree
on the surf. Yeah, the Bengals need to make a
deep run. But let's say Joe plays great the whole
year and then plays a bad AFC Championship game and
they don't go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Are the Bengals calling for his dismissal?

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
No, but fans are calling him out?

Speaker 7 (01:40:15):
Sure, yeah a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Yeah, we'llick everyone. Fans will call everyone out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
I don't think you know rix think about No, it's
funny you read my mind with the Patriots thing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Yeah, I don't think Caleb Williams with the Bears.

Speaker 7 (01:40:30):
There's noney number one pick. There's no honeymoon for a
number one pick.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Yeah, but I think with Drake May it was so
negative heading into the draft, where it's like this guy
the accuracy not even.

Speaker 9 (01:40:40):
Start Franklin, he might not one you want to hear
a weird one because I kind of agree with you
a little bit with uh with the Patriots and the Bears,
because that fan base with the Bears, they're so tired
of losing.

Speaker 6 (01:40:52):
But I feel like the expectations have been artificially high
in Chicago for.

Speaker 4 (01:40:57):
A very long time.

Speaker 6 (01:40:59):
And with the Patriots, you're still living in the shadow
of Tom Brady and that fan base is eager to
get back to those winning ways.

Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
How about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. I mean, the
honeymoon's not over.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
He never, it's never ended. It's been the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
If anybody has the credibility or the past to like
weather a storm where he kind of stinks it up.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
Yeah, Yeah, that's a pretty good one.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
They went to Sandals and they never came home.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Yeah, that's pretty good over here.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Yeah, let's go to Isaac Lowencron real fast for some
breaking news, breaking news from Fox Sports.

Speaker 10 (01:41:41):
We've got some extremely sad NFL news to pass along.
The Athletic TMZ and the Oregonian newspaper are all reporting
that Minnesota Vikings rookie cornerback Kyrie Jackson was killed in
a car crash in his hometown of Upper Marlboro, Maryland,
at the age of twenty four. The Vikings drafted Jackson

(01:42:04):
in the fourth round just a couple of months ago
out of Oregon. Again, the Athletic, TMZ and the Oregonian
newspaper all reporting that Minnesota Vikings rookie fourth round draft
pick Kyrie Jackson has been killed in a car crash
in his hometown of.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Upper Marlborough, Maryland. Fellas nice, Yeah, just awful, awful news.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Yeah, because it's well beyond sports. Yeah, he had his
whole life in front of twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
Early twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Yeah, so so sad heart goes out to the family,
all the loved ones. Just brutal, brutal news.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Woo.

Speaker 6 (01:42:40):
Yeah, it's startling to hear, Like when you know, you
start when you start really walking down the road of
just how young we're talking about. I mean, then this
is a guy, this guy who had to fight his
way to get to Oregon, went the JC route, you know,
obviously one of these guys who the pandemic slammed his

(01:43:05):
football career like it did so many of these you know,
draft picks this year. I mean, what he went through
to get to the point he was at in his
career and be a fourth rounder.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
I remember being taken in the fourth round.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
Didn't expect it to be drafted by the Patriots, and
it was one of the greatest days of my life.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
And I know, certainly for my family. I mean, I'm
not speaking out of school here. It was one of the.

Speaker 6 (01:43:33):
Proudest moments for my parents. I can't even imagine what
they're going through right now. So thanks Ilo. Yeah, that's awful,
awful news.

Speaker 7 (01:43:41):
Yeah, yeah, I don't even really have much of a response,
as Richie a much more perspective on, you know, being
in your early twenties and to get ready to go
play in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
But man, oh man, and you made a good point too.

Speaker 7 (01:43:54):
All the kids that are coming out of school in
twenty four they entered college usually around the twenty twenty times.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
So this is just like a weird the last five
years of this earth was I mean, I don't even
know how to explain it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
Yeah, it's uh, I just think you just never know
when it's your time, and I just anything I take
from that, right, Yeah, it's like I got slaughtered in
gambling yesterday, just a blood bat. But you woke up today, right,
That's right, I did. And it's like, what if that

(01:44:31):
was my last day yesterday?

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Exactly, why would you sweat that?

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Like, just make the most of.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
Meaning that you have.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
Yeah, money comes and goes, life doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
That's exactly there for once. Yeah, let's go back to
I Low. He's got the rest of the sports scene
that he's gonna let us know about.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Right now, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (01:44:50):
I Low, thank Fells, And indeed we repeat our top
story that we passed along to you just moments ago. Oh,
sad and tragic breaking news in the National Football League,
as The Athletic TMZ and the Oregonian newspaper all reporting

(01:45:11):
a short time ago that Minnesota Vikings rookie cornerback Kyrie
Jackson was killed in a car crash in his hometown
of Upper Marlborough, Maryland, at the age of twenty four.
The Vikings had drafted Jackson just a couple of months
ago in the fourth round out of Oregon. In fact,
Kyrie Jackson's head coach at Oregon, Dan Lanning tweeting a

(01:45:36):
short time ago quote, Rip Kyrie, love you. At a
loss for words, I will miss your smile. Great player,
better person unquote. In Major League Baseball on Friday night,
the San Diego Padres with a dramatic ten to eight
win over the Arizona Diamondbacks. San Diego's Jerkson Profar let

(01:45:56):
off the bottom of the ninth inning with a home
run to tie it, and then later in the inning,
the Padres Manny Machado hit a two run home run
to win it in front of a Petco Park record
crowd of forty seven, one hundred and seventy one. Will
Smith of the Los Angeles Dodgers hit three home runs
and an eight to five win over the Milwaukee Brewers.
In the NBA, ESPN reports free agent forward Caleb Martin

(01:46:18):
finalizing a deal with the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
Coming up at the.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
Top of the hour.

Speaker 10 (01:46:23):
In soccer, the quarter final round of Euro twenty twenty
four continues as Anglin goes up against Switzerland.

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
Fellas back to you, thank you, I Low.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
So fellas to put a bow on.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
We were talking about the honeymoon phase with NFL quarterback
and it is wild where there aren't too many quarterbacks,
where we don't have high expectations, maybe unreasonable expectations, where
they're gonna get criticized heavily if they don't put up
individual numbers or have a deep playoff run. So our

(01:47:17):
list right now, our working list. We've got Jaden Daniels,
rookie with the Washington Commanders. He's still in the honeymoon phase, right,
We're not expecting huge production individually right out of the gate. Also,
Jordan Love c. J. Stroud both great seasons last year.
It buys them some wiggle room, right, they have a

(01:47:38):
longer leash in terms of us demanding and expecting if
they fall short. I like yours rich with Patrick Mahomes.
I'll give you a couple of borderline guys. I think
Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson. I was thinking of him sorta
in the honeymoon phase, but getting hurt for both the
last season. We're gonna need to see some results pretty soon.

(01:48:00):
It's a fourth overall pick, and I think Will Levis also. Yeah,
heading into the draft, many people it's very critical of
that guy. So it's not like if he stinks it
up to begin this season, no one's gonna be like, hey, hey,
hold on, give him a chance. He hasn't started many games.
It's just gonna be like I told you, it was
a bump. I don't think he's in the honeymoon phase either.

(01:48:22):
So we've got five quarterbacks in the entire NFL that
are in the honeymoon phase where they're not facing harsh criticism.
Should they falter a little bit, that's wild when you
think twenty seven starting quarterbacks are not in the honeymoon
phase whatsoever.

Speaker 6 (01:48:39):
Well, yeah, when you are a league that depends on
good play at that position, the stakes are so high,
you really it makes sense when you really think about it.
These quarterbacks are so important and they're getting paid so
much money. When you look at the percentage of the
salary cap compared to the rest of the team, the

(01:49:02):
rest of the players on the roster. I mean, of course,
the honeymoon period is so brief for some of these guys,
Like you think about even guys who are reinventing themselves
with new teams, like a Russell Wilson or Justin Fields
with the Pittsburgh Steelers, like a Kirk Cousins with an
Atlanta Falcons. I mean, the honeymoon phase for Kirk Cousins

(01:49:23):
ended within a month. They signed him as a free
agent to a big contract, and then they drafted a
quarterback what eighth or ninth overall? They traded up to
get Pennix Junior.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
I mean it's like, what do we like?

Speaker 6 (01:49:35):
So there there is no honeymoon phase really, because if
you're bad enough early enough in your time with the team,
they're coming for you because everybody understands the great responsibility,
including the quarterbacks of that position.

Speaker 3 (01:49:53):
Yeah, maybe Penix is in the honeymoon phase, right because
maybe here you.

Speaker 7 (01:49:57):
Go, yeah, two quarterbacks in Atlanta may maybe it's easier
for us to talk about the quarterbacks that are in.

Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
The divorce phase.

Speaker 7 (01:50:06):
Like if you stink for one week or one month,
you are getting benched, slashed, replaced. I'll give you one,
and maybe it's not as short of a time horizon,
but he is clearly the most I guess Lightning Rod
polarizing quarterback in the NFL right now? Is Brock purty?

(01:50:29):
Like it seems like we can't make up our mind.
Is Brock getting a longer leash or is he on
such a like I don't really know because there's such
a vast ray of opinions on him, if he would
even be on one side of the eye or the other.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
Yeah, we're not in the divorce phase with him yet.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
He's certainly a polarizing couple's therapy maybe maybe maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
But I like what you're saying, Jared is Yeah, there
are some quarterbacks that were close to the divorce phase.
I'm sure Giants fans want to divorce themselves from Daniel
Jones right, Like there's some quarterbacks from Saints fans. I
don't think they're that Derek Carr is a beloved figure, Like,
there are plenty of teams that would gladly get rid

(01:51:18):
of or divorce their quarterback. Hey, real fast, I want
to throw a story of your way. This is one
of my favorite stories in sports history. So this involves
Jude Benningham.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
He plays for England.

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
He's a soccer player, Okay, he's the guy who made
that crazy bicycle kick wild yes against Slovakia, and so
what happened in that match? UEFA investigated because he made
a leude gesture towards Slovakia's bench during the match, yes,
and they looked into it. They're like, what's going on here?

(01:51:54):
I don't want to be graphic, but just the way
everybody knows what he did because I'm like, what do
you do? Was the he made like an oral sex
gesture and he's looking at the Slovakian bench, and so
they did this investigation.

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
He put on social media. He was like, oh, it
was an inside joke.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Gesture toward close friends who were at the game. I
just happened to be looking at Slovakia's bench. But no,
it's my buddies in Row five. It's just this inside joke.
So YUEFA looked into it and they suspended him for
one match. But he's eligible to play today against Switzerland.

(01:52:32):
He just has to serve this like one game suspension
sometime within the next year.

Speaker 7 (01:52:40):
Matches for England are like the biggest matches ever.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Yeah today, semis, I just love the excuse and thankfully
UEFA didn't buy it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
By goodness, that's worse than the dog ate my homework.

Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:52:54):
I remember one time there was a touchdown celebration was
happening every time a certain player I played with scored,
and I and I I don't want to I don't
know if it was ever discussed publicly, so.

Speaker 4 (01:53:10):
I don't want try to think of who it was.

Speaker 6 (01:53:12):
Was on the Patriots, and and it was one of
those where it was very obvious to all of us
what he was doing, but maybe not to the rest
of the people who are watching the games. And eventually,
I'm fairly certain a coach came and was like, hey, listen,
I know what you're doing, and you gotta stop it
because this is eventually going.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
To get whatever feel this.

Speaker 6 (01:53:35):
Yeah and so and so I remember I remember having
a discussion like, you know, kind of like on the side, like,
so you're gonna you're gonna stop doing it, and he
was like no, no, And he really did it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:50):
It was great.

Speaker 6 (01:53:51):
I mean, it was I mean, and it was subtle
enough that had kind of gotten you know, lost in
the shuffle, but I mean it made highlight reels like
there would be Ye, there would be games where you know,
like kind of the coming attractions for the game. You
you would see this celebration and I would be like,
oh my gosh, like you know, because once, once there's

(01:54:11):
an awareness that's beyond just the player and a small
group of people. But yeah, it's it's interesting man. You know,
there are certain things you could get away with, but
other things are way too.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
There's been a couple of times, I'm thinking where the
league is cracked down. Marshawn Lynch has done this where
he kind of yeah, grabbed his area while he's diving
into the end zone.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
He's gotten fined for that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
Remember Sam Cassell years ago where you would hit a
big shot and he would do the big wavos thing.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
What about Randy Moss when he pulled down his face. Yeah,
a disgusting act.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
They let Joel Embi do the the Generation X thing.

Speaker 4 (01:54:52):
Yeah that one.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
They don't have an issue with that. So and what's
the thing with remember Key and Peel did a sketch
on this. Oh yeah, yeah, you can't do like the
pelvic thrusts. Yeah, you do like one or two pumps,
but not three pumps or something like that. Right, it's
a whole thing. It's a real thing in the NFL.

(01:55:14):
Crazy all right. We've got rich oron Berger, Penn State,
All American, Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. I'm Brian No
coming up next, rapid fire Picks. We will lay him
out for you. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here
on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right
here on Fox Sports Radio. Props to the crew, our
trusted producer, Bo Benson, Chris Purfet, technical producer, Isaac Lohenkron,

(01:55:39):
crushing the updates, crushing life. Top of the hour, up
on game, LeVar Arrington, t J. Hushman's out of Plexicico Burras.
By the way, shout out LeVar Arrington junior choosing Penn State. Yes,
how cool is that? Like as he had offers from
UCLA and Tennessee. He's gonna follow his dad's footsteps go.

Speaker 4 (01:56:01):
To Penn State.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
That so much, really cool story, absolutely cool. So shout
out to LaVar and his son. Really cool stuff. Shout
out to plaques. His son is gonna play at Notre
Dame right, oh yeah, so really cool stuff right there?

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
All right, we got some picks to make.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
Let's do it.

Speaker 8 (01:56:20):
Rapid fire.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
All right, Jared, we start with you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
What are you thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
Yeah, I can't do any worse than last week? Oh
and three?

Speaker 7 (01:56:27):
All three nerfe's failed miserably. Still thirty one and twenty
six though since the Super Bowl so above five hundred.
Hopefully we keep things rolling another month or so until
we get the footy, the real footy back. I'll give
you two nerfees today. Seems like Saturdays are like really
high run scoring days in baseball, so we'll reduce the
Nerfy allocation today to just two.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
We'll go White Sox Marlins right out of the gate.

Speaker 7 (01:56:46):
Garrett Crochet's on the mountain enough said he is having
an unbelievable season seventeen and one to the nerfe Yanni
Chirinos on the other side, don't love that. But the
White Sox stinks, so hopefully they'll go top of the
first score list. Houston, minnesot We'll go nurfy here. Hunter Brown,
Joe Ryan, good pitching matchup, but Houston without Jose Altuve
today got nicked in the hand last night, hit by

(01:57:08):
pitch not in the lineup.

Speaker 3 (01:57:09):
It was just released about twenty minutes ago. Noel Tuve
at the top. I'll take after a.

Speaker 7 (01:57:13):
Ridiculous thirteen to twelve game between these two teams last night,
hopefully lower scoring today and we get a higher scoring match,
hopefully the afternoon match in the euro Netherlands Turkey.

Speaker 3 (01:57:23):
We're going over two and a half.

Speaker 7 (01:57:25):
So the Nerfy White Sox Marlins Nerfy Astros Twins over
two and a half Netherlands Turkey today.

Speaker 6 (01:57:30):
Okay, I actually kind of built the same game parlay
by accident, but here goes nothing. San Diego Padres at
Arizona Diamondbacks back to the weld.

Speaker 4 (01:57:39):
Here, I'm gonna go total total runs scored seven and
a half. I'm taking the under. There fireworks last night
at Pectal Park.

Speaker 6 (01:57:48):
I think it's gonna be a stingure day from the
mound for both of these pitchers, especially because Matt Waldron's
out there. Although I'm gonna take the under because they
gotta be careful with the rotation. Darvish has been injured,
so is Joe Musgrove. So I think it's gonna be
an early hook for Matt Waldron unless he's pitching exceptionally well.

(01:58:09):
So I'm gonna take the under seventeen and a half outs.
He's only made it outside of the fifth inning, or
I should say he has made it outside of the
fifth inning eight of his seventeen starts. So it's about
a fifty to fifty proposition whether he will or not.
Rough's rough finish to the month of June, though, So
I'm taking the under there and then Luis Arise. If

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you pay attention to how often he gets on base
with hits, it's like it happens in waves. He has
three good games and then one bad game. Three good
games and then one bad game. We're in the bad
game territory. So I'm gonna take the under one and
a half bases earned on hits for Luis alright. So
that's under the seventeen and a half outs for Matt Waldron,

(01:58:55):
under the one and a half hits or bases on
hits for Luis Arise, and under the total number of
runs in the game between the Diamondbacks and the Padres
seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
Good stuff. I like how you laid it out anything
with the marine layer.

Speaker 4 (01:59:09):
Though, Oh, Jack Green, you always got a factor in
the always.

Speaker 3 (01:59:13):
Oh keep that in mind, all right, man.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
The Yankees have been freaking all terrible ever since June fifteenth.
They have the worst record, they have the worst run differential,
they have the worst ERA. And before June fifteenth, it
was best, best, best. It's insane what has happened with
the Yankees. But the line today against the Red Sox
thinks to me they are heavily favored. Garrett cole Is

(01:59:38):
on the mound, I get it, but he's just coming
back to form. To me, I'm expecting the Yankees offense
to show up here. I'm going to dare to be great.
I'm taking over four and a half runs scored by
the Yankees today against the Red Sox.

Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
I think they break out of their funk a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
I'm gonna look at the Cleveland Guardians tough one last night,
oh for eleven with runners in scoring position, they break out.
I'm taking them over four and a half runs scored today,
and I'm also taking them on the money line against
San Francisco. Give me the Guardians tough at home minus
one thirty today. I like double dipping with them quite

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a bit excellently.

Speaker 7 (02:00:18):
Do you think seven more Saturdays till college parlay everything together?

Speaker 4 (02:00:22):
You know?

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
Eleven more thirty seven hundred. Everybody, have a great day.
We will catch you soon. Enjoy your Saturday here on Fox.