On today’s episode, Jason discusses the possibility that Steph Curry ends his NBA career with any other team than the Golden State Warriors, why sports fans tend to romanticize the idea of a guy playing with one team for his entire career, how Brock Purdy's looming contract extension in 2025 could impact the ongoing negotiations for San Francisco 49ers' All-Pros Trent Williams and Brandon Aiyuk, the likelihood that Dak Prescott winds up getting a $60 million a year contract either from the Dallas Cowboys or someone else, whether or not any team will be forward-thinking enough to reset at the quarterback or wide receiver position rather than pay top-of-the-market salaries and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday,
July twenty sixth. The Olympics are here. Circle Sunday on
your calendar, Serbia, USA. It's gonna be tough. It sounds
like KD will not be playing. He's technically TBD. I
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saw the scrimmage highlights all over Instagram and he looked
good to me. But according to Kerr, we don't know
if he's gonna be ready. I don't get it, but
obviously they're preaching cautions. So it should be a fun
weekend on the Olympic front. I am going to try
the Chargers just so happen to have a training camp
out here in the South Bay, and I'm trying to
head out there this weekend. Take the kids, just check
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out some little justin Herbert action. I don't even know
if I can identify the Chargers like receivers if their
nameplates were not on the back. That's how much newness
there is. Your new running backs and receivers. Should be fun,
but the Olympics probably will rule the weekend. And before
you know, let's quickly start with an Olympics topic, although
so this will be heavy NFL. I did see that
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Mark Spears, the reporter for ESPN, caught up with Steph
Curry and asked a question that we've been pushing here
on this podcast. Well, okay, the Warriors stink. Maybe they're
going off to lowry markin in as if he's going
to turn around their fortunes significantly. Their win totals like
forty two and a half, forty four and a half,
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somewhere in that range. And it's like, I don't know.
You can argue all you want that d Anthony Melton
and Kyle Anderson make them better than Chris Paul and
Klay Thompson. You can argue that all till you're blue
in the face bottom mine. This is not a contender.
And that'll be the first time in about a decade
that the Warriors have not been contenders. And I asked this,
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I'm like, well, what happens if they can't swing a
trade for marketing and they win thirty nine games and
miss the play in, or they're in the play and
again and lose and Draymond's not getting any younger. Andrew Wiggins,
I don't know if he can be fixed, and there's
a world where all of a sudden, the Warriors next
offseason are like, we can't turn this around, we can't
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do it. And then Steph Curry then was asked about
this by Mark Spiras and he said, if it is
a situation where you're a bottom feeder and it's just
because you want to stay there, I'd have a hard
time with that. But I don't think that's going to
be the reality in Golden State. So Steph said, now
here's a weird thing. Well, obviously nobody wants to be
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a bottom feeder and stay there, right, that makes no
sense at all. As bad as the Wizards and the
Bulls are, I don't think they want to stay there.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Do they want to be bad this year for Cooper flag?
Sag for Cooper flag? Yeah? Maybe, but that's this year.
Nobody actively wants to be at the bottom. I mean,
Portland's been in a built since trading McCollum and Dame.
They're not trying to stay there. They're trying to turn
it around. It's tough. And so you look at a
Hall of Famer like Curry and let's just let's work
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under that scenario. Rob They go, they win thirty nine games,
and let's just say they're in the play in and
they lose in the plane and missed the playoffs. Now
two years in a row, Curry is still performing at
a high level. I can think we can pencil him
in for twenty five. I don't know, twenty five, five
and four, don't whatever his numbers are just knock him
off a little because he's at the age where most
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of the greats from the eighties and nineties had already retired.
And then, yeah, do they tinker with trading Curry? I mean,
can does he demand a trade that does not seem
like it's part of his DNA? That just doesn't That
being said, do you know where Hakim elajah Wan ended
his NBA career, the great Houston Rockets legend who won
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two titles. He ended his career with the Toronto Raptors.
Do you know where Patrick Ewing spent the fun year
of his career, legendary in New York nick, arguably a
top three nick of all time, my favorite nick of
all time. It was in the Seattle SuperSonics, Jersey. That's
where Patrick Ewing ended his career. I mean, we could
go on down the list. Alan Iverson he did not
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retire a six or even though he took him to
the finals. You go to the NFL. Joe Montana pushed
out for Steve Young, ends up with the Kansas City Chiefs.
John Tannagret Russell Wilson not quite a legend. I think
he's probably a Hall of Famer. Seattle great identifies with
Seattle in that amazing run, legion of boom. He's now
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in Pittsburgh on his third team in three years. Like,
this is what happens. Not everybody has the perfect I'm
gonna stay with one franchise and I'm gonna end up
staying there forever, and then I'm gonna John Elway comes
to mind. I mean Peyton Manning. You know, the neck
injury was with the Colts. Neck injury, goes to Denver
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and he wins another Super Bowl. Like, let's not freak
out about this that Steph Curry could end up. Listen,
He's not gonna end up in Charlotte. Okay, that's not
gonna happen. I'm sorry, No, I should take back Charlotte.
I was just thinking of a bad team. He did
play college at Davidson, so I should probably take that back.
He could end up in Charlie. He could end up
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in Charlotte. I don't know. I don't see Steph Curry
ending up in Okay, see Okay, It's just unlikely to me. Now,
could he end up playing for a contender. Let's say
the What's that? What's What's a good team that is
on the come up, Houston Rockets. Houston Rockets are building,
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they need they could use one more veteran. I think
they're a playoff team next year. And the Houston Rockets say,
we've got the AMMO, we want Steph Curry. You are
packing the arena, everybody's coming to see Curry, and you're
instantly contending. You right now are a fringe, fringe playoff
team and st adding Steph Curry and another year of Sengoon,
(06:02):
Jabari Smith and all the guys they got, Like, Yeah,
I think there's definitely something there, But I don't think
it's the end of the world. Rob If Steph Curry
did not end up in a in a Golden State
Warriors Jersey, it's.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Not the end of the world, but it would be
something I'd be very disappointed with because call me nostalgic,
call me emotional, whatever, I think that there's something to
be said about great players finishing, starting, and finishing their
career with one franchise. Maybe I'm romanticizing a little bit
because I'm a Laker fan with Kobe and you know Magic,
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But then you got Tim Duncan, you got Derk Novitsky.
This is a big asterisk one. But I think Michael
Jordan still counts because the only reason no he was
in Washington was because he had money in the game.
Right If if he wasn't trying to sell tickets to
help a fledging franchise, I don't think he ever would
have came back.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And played for the Wizards.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Look at you trying to Michael Jordan's Wash years in Washington, Rob.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
As much as I say, you know, I want hashtag
future Laker, Jason Tatum or whoever was Carmelo Anthony, Lebron
James at.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Whatever, all these guys.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
There comes a point in time where if a player's
original franchise has treated them well, has done whatever they
could to put a winner around them, has been a
functional franchise, and you still want out, then that says
more to me about the player than it does about
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the situation, Like I kind of understood Anthony Davis wanting
out of New Orleans because New Orleans was.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
A tire fire, right.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I understood Kevin Garnett eventually wanting out of Minnesota because
Minnesota historically has been one of the worst friend franchises
in NBA history. But when you talk about Steph Curry
when he got there, like the Warriors were nothing to
write home about, Steph Curry wasn't seen as a second
coming him, Clay and dre On kind of became something together.
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And the reason they were able to develop the way
that they did and whined the clip that they wanted
was because they had the infrastructure behind that new ownership
group that was willing to invest in the team to
put the right pieces around them, to take a risk
with the guy like Steve curR as the head coach,
knowing he had no coaching experience, knowing that he was
going to completely overhaul an offense that had just made
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us to the playoffs with Mark Jackson, and they made.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Shrewd move after shrewd move.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It reached a pinnacle when they were able to get
Kevin Durant with that capspike, and even after Durant left,
Klay Thompson gets hurt, they whiff on a couple of
draft picks, and that ownership group says, Steph Curry still
good enough right now, we are going to pay whatever
it costs for us to be in contention. I believe
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up until this last season with Phoenix, they had the
most expensive roster in NBA history, and that team was
wildly mediocre. So their fault that the team wasn't great.
It just that's what happens. Like the window doesn't stay
open forever. And for Steph Curry to I know that
he's saying it's unlikely and I don't really see it happening,
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But to even floated out there that I could eventually
see myself saying, Hey, if we're not winning and we're
not in contention, that I might try to get to
Houston or try to get to San Antonio or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Pick your favorite team.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Oh wasn't they that's saying.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I didn't want throw that out there, but like there's
something to be said about Steph Curry being in All
Caps Warrior, like he it meets something to them.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
For you, what Jersey does Charles Barkley identify with? He
did play for the Sixers before forcing trades to the Suns.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
In Rockets, he's a vagabond, he's Lebron James, He's Kevin Durant.
I don't associate with.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Anybody now he doesn't, he would never Nobody. Too many
pussies in the media afraid to ask him that. Nobody's
asked him straight up when he bashes them for bouncing around. Uh,
nobody asks Barkley because then have the cahonis to ask him.
But that's a that's a great point. And I've made
that many times, and he's like, listen, Barkley is doing
just what Kevin. Kevin Durant, Lebron are doing what Barkley did.
It's not a big deal that they're bouncing around. By
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the way, Kevin Garnett, how many teams did he play
for in his career, I mean he played for three.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's like, I just I cannot crucify these guys for
wanting to go out and win rings.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
No me, me either.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
But I think it depends on the situation, Like if
Kevin Kevin Durant is the perfect example for all this,
and it's kind of sucks that we have to jump
on him because He's been such a lightning rode for
this podcast. Kevin Durant when he left Oklahoma City. The
reason why it looks so bad, Number one, because he
went to the Warriors, they were already loaded. They were
the greatest regular season ever. But number two, it's not
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like he didn't have enough in Oklahoma City. It's not
like they didn't have a competitive, competent team around him.
Well they did, but he was with Russell West, the Chucker.
He also had James Harden, he had Serge Ibaka. I
mean like like he was in a good situation and
he's like, no, I'm going to go to the best situation.
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And that's his own decision. He's a grow man. He
can make that however he wants to. But that's why
he gets chastised in a way like that guy said
that eighty doesn't get chastised for you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Okay, how about the Miami Heat with Dwayne Wade. I
don't remember the exact way he left, but after Lebron left,
they kind of went in the tank and there were
issues I guess with the Heat wanting to pay him,
and he ends up with the Chicago Bulls, his hometown
team total freaking disaster. Then Dwayne Wade goes to yeah, yeah,
it happened rob the Cleveland Cavaliers to partner with Lebron again.
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I was like, I can't kill Wade. He was trying
to chase a ring Miami wasn't going to pay him,
which at the time seems smart, but like, I don't know,
it just feels like it's a different league now than
it was back in the day, even Magic, Kobe, Dirk,
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these guys all well, I guess way to overlap with
Dirk plenty and sort of Lebron. But maybe it's the
social media era of athletes because these guys were heavy
social media as opposed to Dirk. Who I mean, I
don't know, what do you crown? Social media is coming
in two thouy ten ish?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, right right around like where the decision is.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's omnipressant at by twenty sixteen, everybody's on it all
the time, and now you tossed in TikTok and it's
just everywhere. So I don't know, I can't crush Curry anyways.
I thought that was an interesting take by him, And
I'll be real, I'm a Curry fan, not a Warriors fan.
So if Curry says I'm out and I'm gonna and
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ends up in I don't know, fucking Memphis, I don't care.
I then will become a Curry fan in Memphis. So
I'm not gonna hate the Warriors, obviously, but I like
them because of Curry. It's weird. We don't do this
in the NFL, do we rob No, the NFL much
more tribal than the NBA. And that's because I think
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a lot of the reason is the contracts, the franchise tag.
They do it so you can't just force trades, you
can't just bounce around. The NFL kind of controls you.
And oh, by the way, once you hit thirty, most
stars outside of quarterback begin to go downhill precipitously. And
you know that's why like Tom Brady, massive outlier playing
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into his in his mid forties, but most other guys
like NFL is definitely a twenty two to like thirty
one ish. And then by that point Levegon Bell, Pittsburgh
Steelers guy forever forever forever wants to get his way,
gets to the Jets. Total disaster career over. Like, I mean,
that's how fast it is that doesn't happen in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
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Speaker 3 (14:00):
We can pivot to football on that. And it's like
this whole Brock party situation where you know, he's on
his rookie deal, he's had one million dollars a year,
he's the best deal in the discount in the league. Well,
Trent Williams is now holding out as well, and he
wants to get paid because he sees the writing on
the wall, just like Brandon Ayuk, how y'all gonna have
money to pay me next year when you got to
annie up for Brock Purty. And so Trent Williams is
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holding out, and it just it goes to the point
that in football, nobody really has that much leverage unless
you're a quarterback. Now we can sit here and argue
all we want, rob this idea that they're gonna rock
perty's gonna give him hometown discount, that's not happening. You know,
he ain't playing for thirty mil. You know he's just
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not not when he's been playing on pennies and has
like a roommate, you know, in San Francisco. I mean
it's been well chronicled, like he is gonna get paid,
and now Trent Williams is like and then you watch
a video Brandon Ayuke showing up to practice and John
Lynch kind of walks over to him, and then they
start walking into the building together and you're like, ooh,
that looks that looks icy And I don't know Rob.
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I talked about it with Cowhurd on air. I was like, listen, man,
my deal's up next year. And also all of a sudden,
Fox is like skitt has shown whether they want to
pay me or not. Like, I don't know, I don't know.
You you'll have to tell You'll have to come out
and tell the audience, Hey, we would love to have
j Mack blah blah blah, but uh, contract is not
working out right now. I mean, that's what's happening around
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the league. I saw Jamar Chase unhappy in Cincinnati. He's
not practicing. He's there, he's going all the meetings everything,
but he ain't practicing. Show me the money, yeah, to
a tongue of Aloa. You got Jordan Love like this
is I don't know, does it? It feels like rob
there are more higher impact players this year that are
voicing their displeasure in years past. Obviously there's one or two,
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maybe three all the time, but now it just feels
like there's a lot of big name guys just like saying, yeah,
I'm not I'm not practicing yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And I think the reason why you're seeing that happen
is because history tells us the only way you're gonna
get paid is by doing that. And I know that
there's a lot going on right now. You started talking
about the Niners, but the big off season discourse has
been mostly surrounding the Dallas Cowboys because you know, right
now they got Cde Lamb holding out. Dak Prescott is there,
but he obviously wants a new contract, and he even
(16:20):
floated out to reporters on Thursday, like, you know, obviously
I want to be here, but plenty of other great
quarterbacks have any of their career somewhere else, so it's
not something I'm afraid of.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And then you got.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Micah Parsons looming, and you know the thing about Micah
is even though he's not really causing a stink by
holding out or holding in whatever they do nowadays. But
the fact that he has spoken so openly about his
contract and other people's contracts, both to the media and
in his own podcast, means that it's always at the
forefront of your mind. Like he was one of the
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guys who came out and said, and this was probably
a dumb decision on his part, where he's like, hey,
you know, if we got to pay CD thirty or
forty million dollars a year, that's basically three or four players,
and you know, you gotta got to factor that in.
And it's like, you should never talk like that about
one of your teamates. You should say, I hope he
gets forty million dollars. That'd be great for him. But
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what we're seeing right now is not only are guys
more willing, or at least it seems that way, are
more willing to take a stand to get more money.
It's that you're seeing something that you've alluded to in
the past. A lot of these guys are wide receivers.
Because we're at a point in the NFL marketplace where
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the wide receiver market is exploding in a way that
I don't think the NFL is fully caught.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Up to yet. No, and you've alluded to this.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
In the past, and it's been spot on by you.
We're gonna get to a point, maybe not this offseason,
maybe not next off season, but relatively soon where an
NFL team is gonna say, why the hell are we
gonna pay Chase, for example, thirty seven million dollars a
year when we can get eighty percent of Jamar Chase
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production from a fifth round rookie in tanked own. Like,
that's gonna be what happens. You've you've alluded to it
before as well. Eventually someone's gonna do that with quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I don't think that's gonna happen as quickly because the
quarterback is still the most valuable position in all of sports,
because if you have a good quarterback and a bunch
of trash around it, you can still be pretty you know, competitive.
But that is going to happen, and I think it's
smart of guys like CD, Lamb, Brandon, I Yuk, and
the list goes on and on to say I got
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to strike while the iron is hot, because eventually this
money's gonna dry up. Eventually we're gonna get to a
point where NFL front offices are gonna say, I'll give
my quarterback sixty million dollars a year, and then I'm
gonna pinch pennies everywhere else because ultimately, the only thing
that really matters and is really a difference maker is
the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I think the smart move rob is for a GM
to have the kahonas to do that wide receiver thing. However,
you have to have a massive plan with like backup
options out the wazoo. It's like when you're watching some
of these war movies and I kind of got into them.
I watched something called The Land of Bad. Did you
watch that yet? No?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's on Netflix. I guess it was in theaters and
maybe it didn't do well. And it's starting one of
the Hemsworth brothers and the dad from this is us
Milo something or other anyways, but like, and this is
a movie obviously not real life, but throughout the journey
of this movie, they have to have constant backup plans.
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If this falls apart, we meet here, if this goes
all right, do this And I just I don't know
that teams front offices are that forward thinking. Like Frankly,
if you wanted to move on from Brock perty or
after this year, or make a case that you didn't
have to pay him, or that you just weren't gonna
you're gonna be saying, you know, we like Brock, but
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we don't want to have to pay him a ton
of money. You know what the move is, every single
year you need to draft a quarterback. And I'm looking
at their draft picks. This past year, they got a
receiver anticipating ayukor Debo right, they got, they filled other needs,
they didn't draft a quarterback, and then last year also
didn't draft a quarterback. So since they got pretty in
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the seventh round, they haven't drafted a quarterback. I think
one of the moves is every year you need to
draft quarterbacks. Every year you need to draft wide receivers because,
like you said, that bubble is coming. And you know,
basically Jamar Chase is saying, I saw Justin Jefferson get paid,
and I'm right there with him as the best receiver
in the league. So I'm not gonna practice until I
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get Justin Jefferson money. And if you're the Bengals a
Super Bowl contender, and you just paid Joe Burrow a
billion dollars and you're not paying t Higgins, Like, I
don't know what you're waiting for. But rob, do the
Bengals go from Super Bowl contender to who the hell
knows when Burrow and Chase are eating up like thirty
or thirty five percent of your cap because that's what's
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gonna happen if you pay them. And so ultimately someone's
gonna have to do the herschel Walker trade with one
of these receivers. I thought the Vikings would do it
with Jefferson. Now weren't there reports Robbed that the Vikings
were entertaining Jefferson's.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Trades all the way up to the end.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
They they have one of those advanced stats inclined front offices.
Somebody's gonna do it. And listen, the Chiefs moved off
of Tyreek Hill. Now it's easier to said than done
when you have Patrick Mahomes. But the Bills moved off
of Stefan Diggs, And really they're going the Chief's route,
are they not? I mean, I don't know that they
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have the skill position players of the Chiefs do. They
don't have a Travis Kelce. But they got Kincaid and
the other tight end Dawson Knox. So it's like people
are slowly starting to move off receivers, and it's like
quarterback matters the most. But I'm at the point where
I love this Niners model. No, nobody's gonna listen. If
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you get your first GM job, it is a hard
ass sell to pitch what we're talking about. No owner
is gonna be like, yeah, let's do that. Let's get
our fans all worked into a ladder over this quarterback
who's our franchise guy, and then move off of him,
like it's just too ballsy, you know, I think too
many people are gonna be afraid and listen. That's why
in what was it with Sam Hinky? The one who
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trust the process right, that's right? So eventually he got
rubbed out. He pushed out like two incendiary, too radical,
We can't I can't have that, can't stomach it, and
like that's the thing, that's what you kind of need
to do. So the Cowboys have totally screwed up. I
don't even know there's a good coaching job next year.
Right with with the Dak, it sounds like Dak's not
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gonna be there. Dak might be your next quarterback with
the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
For all we know.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It sounds like McCarthy he ain't gonna be able to
pull this off. So it's gonna be Oh we well,
we kept, We had to pay CD, we had to
pay Michael. Okay, what else you got? And the answer
is nothing like they're gonna fall off pretty quickly. If
if they're not a good team this year, you got
to assume the fall offf is gonna be dramatic. Rob So,
I don't know, it's tough. My hope, though, is this
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is just late July soon to be early August, typical stuff.
Some guy Trent Williams getting an extra week off, you know,
not having a practice, you know, Like that's my guess,
and all these will get sorted out. I don't anticipate
us starting Week one with like no CD lamb. Right,
there's no chance.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Of that, Yeah, because eventually Jerry Jones is gonna cave.
He always does.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
History says, if you play hardball with Jerry Jones, he
is eventually gonna throw a with a ball and you're
gonna smack out a home run and you're gonna be
very happy about it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Before I get to the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Though. One thing that you mentioned was about the Minnesota
Vikings that they're forward thinking, very analytics driven front office.
It's it's interesting you brought them up because they are
the ones who decided that there was a walking away
number from Kirk Cousins, because history says that if you're
the next quarterbackup, you are either gonna get resetting the
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market or you're gonna get top five quarterback money just
because it's your turn. And they ultimately said, no, we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Gonna do that. We're gonna let you go free and clear.
We're not even gonna.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Franchise and do whatever we got to do, make it,
sign and trade whatever. And the team that gets him
doubles down on the forward thinking that you brought up.
We're gonna sign Kirk Cousins. We're gonna give him slightly
less than top of the market. We're gonna give him
a mostly guaranteed contract that he wanted, and then we're
gonna draft his replacement at number eight, so that if
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he plays well, great, that we got a good quarterback
at below top five top seven money. If he doesn't
play well, we're only really locked into it for two
or three years, and then by then the guy we
drafted number eight overall his rookie contract is going to
be ready to roll, and we have him at least
on a cheap deal for at least another two or
three years. So you're kind of seeing the seeds being
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planned to right now with that forward thinking type of attitude.
As far as the Cowboys go, I think Adam Schefter
hit a nail on the head where he's because Dak
Prescott is not Patrick Mahomes, both in terms of talent
but also in the way that he approaches.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Finances.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Dak Prescott, to quote Andrew Brandt, is going to be
in the Business Hall of Fame because no quarterback, for
my money, has optimized his free agency better than Dak Prescott.
Every contract that he signed, he signs a shorter deal,
usually with the player option, that allows him to hit
the bite of the apple.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Again and again and again.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
And with this next contract that he's going to get,
assuming he doesn't resign this offseason, which there's been no
reporting that suggests that he would.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Come summer of spring of.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Twenty twenty five, he's going to be free and clear,
no franchise tag, no transition tag, you don't got a
trade for him, you're going to be able to just
go to the highest bidder. The last time we saw
a quarterback who was not coming off an injury, just
free and clear to the highest bidder, Deshaun Watson got
a fully guaranteed two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Million dollar contract.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Dak Prescott is gonna get sixty to sixty five million
dollars a year period.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Well wait, he's going sixty to sixty five. I will
push back against the sixty who's giving him that. Anyone
who needs a quarterback, we could look at the market. Well, okay, so,
but that's the thing. Who does need a quarterback? Fox
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If you're looking at teams drafting in the top three
next year, I mean, we'll see what happens with Shador
Sanders and back and these guys. But I don't I
don't know. I mean, if you're drafting, would you rather
pay Dak Prescott's sixty five million sixty million a year
or draft a quarterback number one or two or three.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I know that's a no brainer the guy, But I'm
not an NFL executive exactly right, Well, that's so okay.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So let's if you take out the bottom three teams.
Let's take out let's just hypothetical Panthers, Raiders, Giants. Let's
say they draft quarterbacks won two, three. What is the
market now for Dak.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Prescott, Steelers?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Uh, okay, Steelers are in play. Okay, I'll toss out
the Jets. I mean, we don't know what Aaron Rodgers
is going to be or if he gets hurt again
you're retired. We don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
He's floating that out again too. Guy really can't help himselves,
of course.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It just I don't know that there's going to be
as men. And I fell victim to this last year
with the Justin Fields. When he was playing well, I
was like, listen, there's gonna be like five six teams
after him, and then Cousins kind of got there out
there and there there was no market for fields. It
evaporates like mid season. There were like a lot of
options when when he was playing well and there were
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teams struggling, and was like, oh, that's interesting, Like, I
don't the Patriots drafted Drake May. I don't see them
in a year just saying let's give sixty million dollars
to Dak. I don't see a world where that happens.
Maybe Pittsburgh, like you said, Colts, no Jags, no Texans,
no Titans. If will Evi Saint the guy, you know,
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then they're probably drafting one high. But if he is
the guy and they win seven or eight games, they're
probably not not paying Dak. We know the Chargers are not.
Broncos just drafted Nicks. They're probably gonna be one of
the worst teams in the league. Raiders may be an option.
Chiefs obviously not. And then it's like Eagles, no Giants,
probably drafting one, Washington just drafted one, Lions no way, Packers,
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no way, Vikings I just drafted one. I don't think so.
And they wouldn't pay Kirk Cousins. So definitely not. Bears
obviously not, Tampa, probably not Saints, Saints would Saints could
be interesting. Well see I don't know the car number,
contract number, but they'll be getting a new coach. I
guess Saints could be in play. Falcons obviously Panthers, Panthers TBD, Niners,
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no Rams, no Seahawks, no Cardinals. No. So it really
is like maybe two or three teams that could be
in the mix for Dak. And you know this, Rob,
you want a quarterback on the rookie deal over sixty
million dollars for sure. I almost wonder if Dallas just
is doing this exercise we just did and they're like,
(29:26):
let's just call this bluff. Guys, nobody's given him sixty.
Maybe we get him for under fifty. I don't know.
In a year from now, what if he doesn't play well,
He's not set up for success.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Rob, you know that.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
That's everything you're saying is true. And the flip side
of that is last year he was an All Pro.
And again, the last quarterback who was not injured going
into free agency, who was in this kind of situation. Oh,
by the way, had like twenty five sexual assault cases
looming over his head, got a fully guaranteed track. True,
he was in his prime. But yet, because the way
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the NFL, it's not not for long. For a reason,
I know that you and I and a lot of
smart people would say I'd rather take the young quarterback
build out the rest of my roster and gives me
a four or five year window to see what I
can build around this guy. Hopefully get the right pick.
But most of these NFL decision makers are just trying
to keep their own job.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
That's how you end up with some.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Of these really shitty picks or these really shitty acquisitions
and trades and things like that, because they're like, hey,
this deal, bring up Derek Carr, for example, We're going
to go from seventy million dollars over the cap to
thirty million dollars under the cap without losing any of
our key players, so that we can sign Derek Carr,
which sounds good for the first year or two. And
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so you look at their cap shitt and you're like,
holy shit, when they get to like twenty seven, twenty eight,
twenty nine, they're gonna be like at ninety million dollars
in dead cap just sitting there that they can't use.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And that's no.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Yeah, and it's a short sighted decision, but that's typically
what happens in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
We can wrap up just because I didn't even realize this,
but you made me look super smart with this Minnesota
Vikings thing. So in twenty twenty two, the Vikings go
thirteen and four with the new GM Quessi and Kevin
O'Connell in year one, Right, they go thirteen and four,
What do they decide to do? They knew there was
some smoke and mirrors involved. What do they decide to
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do the next year? Hey, we're gonna move off Dalvin Cook.
And everybody was like, what dumping Dalvin Cook? They moved
off him and guess what, Dalvin Cook is pretty clearly washed.
Smart move got out in front of it. Now, they
only went seven and ten last year, but that was
the year Kirk Cousins got hurt and Kevin O'Connell made
some major lemonade out of Lemons quarterbacking the likes of
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Josh Dobbs for four starts and Nick Mullins for three,
Jaron Hall for two. I mean, the fact that they
won seven games is tremendous. So then they move off
Kirk Cousins. So they moved off star running back, star quarterback,
and they talked about moving off the star wide receiver.
Maybe you're right, Rob, Maybe the Minnesota Vikings are the
team that is forward thinking enough to say we're gonna
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tinker and we're gonna draft quarterbacks every year and we're
gonna not pay wide receivers and run. You know, maybe
now it's tough to stuff like that, Like Justin Jefferson
is one of the popular players in the league. You
know what trading Justin Jefferson is gonna do to your
What the pr hit in Minnesota is like, that's just brutal. Anyways,
that's a long Friday podcast to take you into the weekend. Everybody,
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enjoy the Olympic festivities and we will talk to you Monday.
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday,
July twenty sixth. The Olympics are here. Circle Sunday on
your calendar, Serbia, USA. It's gonna be tough. It sounds
like KD will not be playing. He's technically TBD. I
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saw the scrimmage highlights all over Instagram and he looked
good to me. But according to Kerr, we don't know
if he's gonna be ready. I don't get it, but
obviously they're preaching cautions. So it should be a fun
weekend on the Olympic front. I am going to try
the Chargers just so happen to have a training camp
out here in the South Bay, and I'm trying to
head out there this weekend. Take the kids, just check
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out some little justin Herbert action. I don't even know
if I can identify the Chargers like receivers if their
nameplates were not on the back. That's how much newness
there is. Your new running backs and receivers. Should be fun,
but the Olympics probably will rule the weekend. And before
you know, let's quickly start with an Olympics topic, although
so this will be heavy NFL. I did see that
(01:16):
Mark Spears, the reporter for ESPN, caught up with Steph
Curry and asked a question that we've been pushing here
on this podcast. Well, okay, the Warriors stink. Maybe they're
going off to lowry markin in as if he's going
to turn around their fortunes significantly. Their win totals like
forty two and a half, forty four and a half,
(01:37):
somewhere in that range. And it's like, I don't know.
You can argue all you want that d Anthony Melton
and Kyle Anderson make them better than Chris Paul and
Klay Thompson. You can argue that all till you're blue
in the face bottom mine. This is not a contender.
And that'll be the first time in about a decade
that the Warriors have not been contenders. And I asked this,
(01:58):
I'm like, well, what happens if they can't swing a
trade for marketing and they win thirty nine games and
miss the play in, or they're in the play and
again and lose and Draymond's not getting any younger. Andrew Wiggins,
I don't know if he can be fixed, and there's
a world where all of a sudden, the Warriors next
offseason are like, we can't turn this around, we can't
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do it. And then Steph Curry then was asked about
this by Mark Spiras and he said, if it is
a situation where you're a bottom feeder and it's just
because you want to stay there, I'd have a hard
time with that. But I don't think that's going to
be the reality in Golden State. So Steph said, now
here's a weird thing. Well, obviously nobody wants to be
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a bottom feeder and stay there, right, that makes no
sense at all. As bad as the Wizards and the
Bulls are, I don't think they want to stay there.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Do they want to be bad this year for Cooper flag?
Sag for Cooper flag? Yeah? Maybe, but that's this year.
Nobody actively wants to be at the bottom. I mean,
Portland's been in a built since trading McCollum and Dame.
They're not trying to stay there. They're trying to turn
it around. It's tough. And so you look at a
Hall of Famer like Curry and let's just let's work
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under that scenario. Rob They go, they win thirty nine games,
and let's just say they're in the play in and
they lose in the plane and missed the playoffs. Now
two years in a row, Curry is still performing at
a high level. I can think we can pencil him
in for twenty five. I don't know, twenty five, five
and four, don't whatever his numbers are just knock him
off a little because he's at the age where most
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of the greats from the eighties and nineties had already retired.
And then, yeah, do they tinker with trading Curry? I mean,
can does he demand a trade that does not seem
like it's part of his DNA? That just doesn't That
being said, do you know where Hakim elajah Wan ended
his NBA career, the great Houston Rockets legend who won
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two titles. He ended his career with the Toronto Raptors.
Do you know where Patrick Ewing spent the fun year
of his career, legendary in New York nick, arguably a
top three nick of all time, my favorite nick of
all time. It was in the Seattle SuperSonics, Jersey. That's
where Patrick Ewing ended his career. I mean, we could
go on down the list. Alan Iverson he did not
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retire a six or even though he took him to
the finals. You go to the NFL. Joe Montana pushed
out for Steve Young, ends up with the Kansas City Chiefs.
John Tannagret Russell Wilson not quite a legend. I think
he's probably a Hall of Famer. Seattle great identifies with
Seattle in that amazing run, legion of boom. He's now
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in Pittsburgh on his third team in three years. Like,
this is what happens. Not everybody has the perfect I'm
gonna stay with one franchise and I'm gonna end up
staying there forever, and then I'm gonna John Elway comes
to mind. I mean Peyton Manning. You know, the neck
injury was with the Colts. Neck injury, goes to Denver
(04:58):
and he wins another Super Bowl. Like, let's not freak
out about this that Steph Curry could end up. Listen,
He's not gonna end up in Charlotte. Okay, that's not
gonna happen. I'm sorry, No, I should take back Charlotte.
I was just thinking of a bad team. He did
play college at Davidson, so I should probably take that back.
He could end up in Charlie. He could end up
(05:18):
in Charlotte. I don't know. I don't see Steph Curry
ending up in Okay, see Okay, It's just unlikely to me. Now,
could he end up playing for a contender. Let's say
the What's that? What's What's a good team that is
on the come up, Houston Rockets. Houston Rockets are building,
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they need they could use one more veteran. I think
they're a playoff team next year. And the Houston Rockets say,
we've got the AMMO, we want Steph Curry. You are
packing the arena, everybody's coming to see Curry, and you're
instantly contending. You right now are a fringe, fringe playoff
team and st adding Steph Curry and another year of Sengoon,
(06:02):
Jabari Smith and all the guys they got, Like, Yeah,
I think there's definitely something there, But I don't think
it's the end of the world. Rob If Steph Curry
did not end up in a in a Golden State
Warriors Jersey, it's.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Not the end of the world, but it would be
something I'd be very disappointed with because call me nostalgic,
call me emotional, whatever, I think that there's something to
be said about great players finishing, starting, and finishing their
career with one franchise. Maybe I'm romanticizing a little bit
because I'm a Laker fan with Kobe and you know Magic,
(06:35):
But then you got Tim Duncan, you got Derk Novitsky.
This is a big asterisk one. But I think Michael
Jordan still counts because the only reason no he was
in Washington was because he had money in the game.
Right If if he wasn't trying to sell tickets to
help a fledging franchise, I don't think he ever would
have came back.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And played for the Wizards.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Look at you trying to Michael Jordan's Wash years in Washington, Rob.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
As much as I say, you know, I want hashtag
future Laker, Jason Tatum or whoever was Carmelo Anthony, Lebron
James at.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Whatever, all these guys.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
There comes a point in time where if a player's
original franchise has treated them well, has done whatever they
could to put a winner around them, has been a
functional franchise, and you still want out, then that says
more to me about the player than it does about
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the situation, Like I kind of understood Anthony Davis wanting
out of New Orleans because New Orleans was.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
A tire fire, right.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I understood Kevin Garnett eventually wanting out of Minnesota because
Minnesota historically has been one of the worst friend franchises
in NBA history. But when you talk about Steph Curry
when he got there, like the Warriors were nothing to
write home about, Steph Curry wasn't seen as a second
coming him, Clay and dre On kind of became something together.
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And the reason they were able to develop the way
that they did and whined the clip that they wanted
was because they had the infrastructure behind that new ownership
group that was willing to invest in the team to
put the right pieces around them, to take a risk
with the guy like Steve curR as the head coach,
knowing he had no coaching experience, knowing that he was
going to completely overhaul an offense that had just made
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us to the playoffs with Mark Jackson, and they made.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Shrewd move after shrewd move.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It reached a pinnacle when they were able to get
Kevin Durant with that capspike, and even after Durant left,
Klay Thompson gets hurt, they whiff on a couple of
draft picks, and that ownership group says, Steph Curry still
good enough right now, we are going to pay whatever
it costs for us to be in contention. I believe
(08:50):
up until this last season with Phoenix, they had the
most expensive roster in NBA history, and that team was
wildly mediocre. So their fault that the team wasn't great.
It just that's what happens. Like the window doesn't stay
open forever. And for Steph Curry to I know that
he's saying it's unlikely and I don't really see it happening,
(09:12):
But to even floated out there that I could eventually
see myself saying, Hey, if we're not winning and we're
not in contention, that I might try to get to
Houston or try to get to San Antonio or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Pick your favorite team.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Oh wasn't they that's saying.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I didn't want throw that out there, but like there's
something to be said about Steph Curry being in All
Caps Warrior, like he it meets something to them.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
For you, what Jersey does Charles Barkley identify with? He
did play for the Sixers before forcing trades to the Suns.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
In Rockets, he's a vagabond, he's Lebron James, He's Kevin Durant.
I don't associate with.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Anybody now he doesn't, he would never Nobody. Too many
pussies in the media afraid to ask him that. Nobody's
asked him straight up when he bashes them for bouncing around. Uh,
nobody asks Barkley because then have the cahonis to ask him.
But that's a that's a great point. And I've made
that many times, and he's like, listen, Barkley is doing
just what Kevin. Kevin Durant, Lebron are doing what Barkley did.
It's not a big deal that they're bouncing around. By
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the way, Kevin Garnett, how many teams did he play
for in his career, I mean he played for three.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's like, I just I cannot crucify these guys for
wanting to go out and win rings.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
No me, me either.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
But I think it depends on the situation, Like if
Kevin Kevin Durant is the perfect example for all this,
and it's kind of sucks that we have to jump
on him because He's been such a lightning rode for
this podcast. Kevin Durant when he left Oklahoma City. The
reason why it looks so bad, Number one, because he
went to the Warriors, they were already loaded. They were
the greatest regular season ever. But number two, it's not
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like he didn't have enough in Oklahoma City. It's not
like they didn't have a competitive, competent team around him.
Well they did, but he was with Russell West, the Chucker.
He also had James Harden, he had Serge Ibaka. I
mean like like he was in a good situation and
he's like, no, I'm going to go to the best situation.
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And that's his own decision. He's a grow man. He
can make that however he wants to. But that's why
he gets chastised in a way like that guy said
that eighty doesn't get chastised for you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Okay, how about the Miami Heat with Dwayne Wade. I
don't remember the exact way he left, but after Lebron left,
they kind of went in the tank and there were
issues I guess with the Heat wanting to pay him,
and he ends up with the Chicago Bulls, his hometown
team total freaking disaster. Then Dwayne Wade goes to yeah, yeah,
it happened rob the Cleveland Cavaliers to partner with Lebron again.
(11:40):
I was like, I can't kill Wade. He was trying
to chase a ring Miami wasn't going to pay him,
which at the time seems smart, but like, I don't know,
it just feels like it's a different league now than
it was back in the day, even Magic, Kobe, Dirk,
(12:01):
these guys all well, I guess way to overlap with
Dirk plenty and sort of Lebron. But maybe it's the
social media era of athletes because these guys were heavy
social media as opposed to Dirk. Who I mean, I
don't know, what do you crown? Social media is coming
in two thouy ten ish?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, right right around like where the decision is.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's omnipressant at by twenty sixteen, everybody's on it all
the time, and now you tossed in TikTok and it's
just everywhere. So I don't know, I can't crush Curry anyways.
I thought that was an interesting take by him, And
I'll be real, I'm a Curry fan, not a Warriors fan.
So if Curry says I'm out and I'm gonna and
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ends up in I don't know, fucking Memphis, I don't care.
I then will become a Curry fan in Memphis. So
I'm not gonna hate the Warriors, obviously, but I like
them because of Curry. It's weird. We don't do this
in the NFL, do we rob No, the NFL much
more tribal than the NBA. And that's because I think
(13:03):
a lot of the reason is the contracts, the franchise tag.
They do it so you can't just force trades, you
can't just bounce around. The NFL kind of controls you.
And oh, by the way, once you hit thirty, most
stars outside of quarterback begin to go downhill precipitously. And
you know that's why like Tom Brady, massive outlier playing
(13:24):
into his in his mid forties, but most other guys
like NFL is definitely a twenty two to like thirty
one ish. And then by that point Levegon Bell, Pittsburgh
Steelers guy forever forever forever wants to get his way,
gets to the Jets. Total disaster career over. Like, I mean,
that's how fast it is that doesn't happen in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
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Speaker 3 (14:00):
We can pivot to football on that. And it's like
this whole Brock party situation where you know, he's on
his rookie deal, he's had one million dollars a year,
he's the best deal in the discount in the league. Well,
Trent Williams is now holding out as well, and he
wants to get paid because he sees the writing on
the wall, just like Brandon Ayuk, how y'all gonna have
money to pay me next year when you got to
annie up for Brock Purty. And so Trent Williams is
(14:22):
holding out, and it just it goes to the point
that in football, nobody really has that much leverage unless
you're a quarterback. Now we can sit here and argue
all we want, rob this idea that they're gonna rock
perty's gonna give him hometown discount, that's not happening. You know,
he ain't playing for thirty mil. You know he's just
(14:45):
not not when he's been playing on pennies and has
like a roommate, you know, in San Francisco. I mean
it's been well chronicled, like he is gonna get paid,
and now Trent Williams is like and then you watch
a video Brandon Ayuke showing up to practice and John
Lynch kind of walks over to him, and then they
start walking into the building together and you're like, ooh,
that looks that looks icy And I don't know Rob.
(15:07):
I talked about it with Cowhurd on air. I was like, listen, man,
my deal's up next year. And also all of a sudden,
Fox is like skitt has shown whether they want to
pay me or not. Like, I don't know, I don't know.
You you'll have to tell You'll have to come out
and tell the audience, Hey, we would love to have
j Mack blah blah blah, but uh, contract is not
working out right now. I mean, that's what's happening around
(15:28):
the league. I saw Jamar Chase unhappy in Cincinnati. He's
not practicing. He's there, he's going all the meetings everything,
but he ain't practicing. Show me the money, yeah, to
a tongue of Aloa. You got Jordan Love like this
is I don't know, does it? It feels like rob
there are more higher impact players this year that are
voicing their displeasure in years past. Obviously there's one or two,
(15:52):
maybe three all the time, but now it just feels
like there's a lot of big name guys just like saying, yeah,
I'm not I'm not practicing yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And I think the reason why you're seeing that happen
is because history tells us the only way you're gonna
get paid is by doing that. And I know that
there's a lot going on right now. You started talking
about the Niners, but the big off season discourse has
been mostly surrounding the Dallas Cowboys because you know, right
now they got Cde Lamb holding out. Dak Prescott is there,
but he obviously wants a new contract, and he even
(16:20):
floated out to reporters on Thursday, like, you know, obviously
I want to be here, but plenty of other great
quarterbacks have any of their career somewhere else, so it's
not something I'm afraid of.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And then you got.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Micah Parsons looming, and you know the thing about Micah
is even though he's not really causing a stink by
holding out or holding in whatever they do nowadays. But
the fact that he has spoken so openly about his
contract and other people's contracts, both to the media and
in his own podcast, means that it's always at the
forefront of your mind. Like he was one of the
(16:52):
guys who came out and said, and this was probably
a dumb decision on his part, where he's like, hey,
you know, if we got to pay CD thirty or
forty million dollars a year, that's basically three or four players,
and you know, you gotta got to factor that in.
And it's like, you should never talk like that about
one of your teamates. You should say, I hope he
gets forty million dollars. That'd be great for him. But
(17:12):
what we're seeing right now is not only are guys
more willing, or at least it seems that way, are
more willing to take a stand to get more money.
It's that you're seeing something that you've alluded to in
the past. A lot of these guys are wide receivers.
Because we're at a point in the NFL marketplace where
(17:36):
the wide receiver market is exploding in a way that
I don't think the NFL is fully caught.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Up to yet. No, and you've alluded to this.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
In the past, and it's been spot on by you.
We're gonna get to a point, maybe not this offseason,
maybe not next off season, but relatively soon where an
NFL team is gonna say, why the hell are we
gonna pay Chase, for example, thirty seven million dollars a
year when we can get eighty percent of Jamar Chase
(18:06):
production from a fifth round rookie in tanked own. Like,
that's gonna be what happens. You've you've alluded to it
before as well. Eventually someone's gonna do that with quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I don't think that's gonna happen as quickly because the
quarterback is still the most valuable position in all of sports,
because if you have a good quarterback and a bunch
of trash around it, you can still be pretty you know, competitive.
But that is going to happen, and I think it's
smart of guys like CD, Lamb, Brandon, I Yuk, and
the list goes on and on to say I got
(18:40):
to strike while the iron is hot, because eventually this
money's gonna dry up. Eventually we're gonna get to a
point where NFL front offices are gonna say, I'll give
my quarterback sixty million dollars a year, and then I'm
gonna pinch pennies everywhere else because ultimately, the only thing
that really matters and is really a difference maker is
the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I think the smart move rob is for a GM
to have the kahonas to do that wide receiver thing. However,
you have to have a massive plan with like backup
options out the wazoo. It's like when you're watching some
of these war movies and I kind of got into them.
I watched something called The Land of Bad. Did you
watch that yet? No?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's on Netflix. I guess it was in theaters and
maybe it didn't do well. And it's starting one of
the Hemsworth brothers and the dad from this is us
Milo something or other anyways, but like, and this is
a movie obviously not real life, but throughout the journey
of this movie, they have to have constant backup plans.
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If this falls apart, we meet here, if this goes
all right, do this And I just I don't know
that teams front offices are that forward thinking. Like Frankly,
if you wanted to move on from Brock perty or
after this year, or make a case that you didn't
have to pay him, or that you just weren't gonna
you're gonna be saying, you know, we like Brock, but
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we don't want to have to pay him a ton
of money. You know what the move is, every single
year you need to draft a quarterback. And I'm looking
at their draft picks. This past year, they got a
receiver anticipating ayukor Debo right, they got, they filled other needs,
they didn't draft a quarterback, and then last year also
didn't draft a quarterback. So since they got pretty in
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the seventh round, they haven't drafted a quarterback. I think
one of the moves is every year you need to
draft quarterbacks. Every year you need to draft wide receivers because,
like you said, that bubble is coming. And you know,
basically Jamar Chase is saying, I saw Justin Jefferson get paid,
and I'm right there with him as the best receiver
in the league. So I'm not gonna practice until I
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get Justin Jefferson money. And if you're the Bengals a
Super Bowl contender, and you just paid Joe Burrow a
billion dollars and you're not paying t Higgins, Like, I
don't know what you're waiting for. But rob, do the
Bengals go from Super Bowl contender to who the hell
knows when Burrow and Chase are eating up like thirty
or thirty five percent of your cap because that's what's
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gonna happen if you pay them. And so ultimately someone's
gonna have to do the herschel Walker trade with one
of these receivers. I thought the Vikings would do it
with Jefferson. Now weren't there reports Robbed that the Vikings
were entertaining Jefferson's.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Trades all the way up to the end.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
They they have one of those advanced stats inclined front offices.
Somebody's gonna do it. And listen, the Chiefs moved off
of Tyreek Hill. Now it's easier to said than done
when you have Patrick Mahomes. But the Bills moved off
of Stefan Diggs, And really they're going the Chief's route,
are they not? I mean, I don't know that they
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have the skill position players of the Chiefs do. They
don't have a Travis Kelce. But they got Kincaid and
the other tight end Dawson Knox. So it's like people
are slowly starting to move off receivers, and it's like
quarterback matters the most. But I'm at the point where
I love this Niners model. No, nobody's gonna listen. If
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you get your first GM job, it is a hard
ass sell to pitch what we're talking about. No owner
is gonna be like, yeah, let's do that. Let's get
our fans all worked into a ladder over this quarterback
who's our franchise guy, and then move off of him,
like it's just too ballsy, you know, I think too
many people are gonna be afraid and listen. That's why
in what was it with Sam Hinky? The one who
(22:28):
trust the process right, that's right? So eventually he got
rubbed out. He pushed out like two incendiary, too radical,
We can't I can't have that, can't stomach it, and
like that's the thing, that's what you kind of need
to do. So the Cowboys have totally screwed up. I
don't even know there's a good coaching job next year.
Right with with the Dak, it sounds like Dak's not
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gonna be there. Dak might be your next quarterback with
the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
For all we know.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It sounds like McCarthy he ain't gonna be able to
pull this off. So it's gonna be Oh we well,
we kept, We had to pay CD, we had to
pay Michael. Okay, what else you got? And the answer
is nothing like they're gonna fall off pretty quickly. If
if they're not a good team this year, you got
to assume the fall offf is gonna be dramatic. Rob So,
I don't know, it's tough. My hope, though, is this
(23:16):
is just late July soon to be early August, typical stuff.
Some guy Trent Williams getting an extra week off, you know,
not having a practice, you know, Like that's my guess,
and all these will get sorted out. I don't anticipate
us starting Week one with like no CD lamb. Right,
there's no chance.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Of that, Yeah, because eventually Jerry Jones is gonna cave.
He always does.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
History says, if you play hardball with Jerry Jones, he
is eventually gonna throw a with a ball and you're
gonna smack out a home run and you're gonna be
very happy about it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Before I get to the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Though. One thing that you mentioned was about the Minnesota
Vikings that they're forward thinking, very analytics driven front office.
It's it's interesting you brought them up because they are
the ones who decided that there was a walking away
number from Kirk Cousins, because history says that if you're
the next quarterbackup, you are either gonna get resetting the
(24:07):
market or you're gonna get top five quarterback money just
because it's your turn. And they ultimately said, no, we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Gonna do that. We're gonna let you go free and clear.
We're not even gonna.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Franchise and do whatever we got to do, make it,
sign and trade whatever. And the team that gets him
doubles down on the forward thinking that you brought up.
We're gonna sign Kirk Cousins. We're gonna give him slightly
less than top of the market. We're gonna give him
a mostly guaranteed contract that he wanted, and then we're
gonna draft his replacement at number eight, so that if
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he plays well, great, that we got a good quarterback
at below top five top seven money. If he doesn't
play well, we're only really locked into it for two
or three years, and then by then the guy we
drafted number eight overall his rookie contract is going to
be ready to roll, and we have him at least
on a cheap deal for at least another two or
three years. So you're kind of seeing the seeds being
(24:59):
planned to right now with that forward thinking type of attitude.
As far as the Cowboys go, I think Adam Schefter
hit a nail on the head where he's because Dak
Prescott is not Patrick Mahomes, both in terms of talent
but also in the way that he approaches.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Finances.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Dak Prescott, to quote Andrew Brandt, is going to be
in the Business Hall of Fame because no quarterback, for
my money, has optimized his free agency better than Dak Prescott.
Every contract that he signed, he signs a shorter deal,
usually with the player option, that allows him to hit
the bite of the apple.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Again and again and again.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
And with this next contract that he's going to get,
assuming he doesn't resign this offseason, which there's been no
reporting that suggests that he would.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Come summer of spring of.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Twenty twenty five, he's going to be free and clear,
no franchise tag, no transition tag, you don't got a
trade for him, you're going to be able to just
go to the highest bidder. The last time we saw
a quarterback who was not coming off an injury, just
free and clear to the highest bidder, Deshaun Watson got
a fully guaranteed two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Million dollar contract.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Dak Prescott is gonna get sixty to sixty five million
dollars a year period.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Well wait, he's going sixty to sixty five. I will
push back against the sixty who's giving him that. Anyone
who needs a quarterback, we could look at the market. Well, okay, so,
but that's the thing. Who does need a quarterback? Fox
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If you're looking at teams drafting in the top three
next year, I mean, we'll see what happens with Shador
Sanders and back and these guys. But I don't I
don't know. I mean, if you're drafting, would you rather
pay Dak Prescott's sixty five million sixty million a year
or draft a quarterback number one or two or three.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I know that's a no brainer the guy, But I'm
not an NFL executive exactly right, Well, that's so okay.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So let's if you take out the bottom three teams.
Let's take out let's just hypothetical Panthers, Raiders, Giants. Let's
say they draft quarterbacks won two, three. What is the
market now for Dak.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Prescott, Steelers?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Uh, okay, Steelers are in play. Okay, I'll toss out
the Jets. I mean, we don't know what Aaron Rodgers
is going to be or if he gets hurt again
you're retired. We don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
He's floating that out again too. Guy really can't help himselves,
of course.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It just I don't know that there's going to be
as men. And I fell victim to this last year
with the Justin Fields. When he was playing well, I
was like, listen, there's gonna be like five six teams
after him, and then Cousins kind of got there out
there and there there was no market for fields. It
evaporates like mid season. There were like a lot of
options when when he was playing well and there were
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teams struggling, and was like, oh, that's interesting, Like, I
don't the Patriots drafted Drake May. I don't see them
in a year just saying let's give sixty million dollars
to Dak. I don't see a world where that happens.
Maybe Pittsburgh, like you said, Colts, no Jags, no Texans,
no Titans. If will Evi Saint the guy, you know,
(28:16):
then they're probably drafting one high. But if he is
the guy and they win seven or eight games, they're
probably not not paying Dak. We know the Chargers are not.
Broncos just drafted Nicks. They're probably gonna be one of
the worst teams in the league. Raiders may be an option.
Chiefs obviously not. And then it's like Eagles, no Giants,
probably drafting one, Washington just drafted one, Lions no way, Packers,
(28:39):
no way, Vikings I just drafted one. I don't think so.
And they wouldn't pay Kirk Cousins. So definitely not. Bears
obviously not, Tampa, probably not Saints, Saints would Saints could
be interesting. Well see I don't know the car number,
contract number, but they'll be getting a new coach. I
guess Saints could be in play. Falcons obviously Panthers, Panthers TBD, Niners,
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no Rams, no Seahawks, no Cardinals. No. So it really
is like maybe two or three teams that could be
in the mix for Dak. And you know this, Rob,
you want a quarterback on the rookie deal over sixty
million dollars for sure. I almost wonder if Dallas just
is doing this exercise we just did and they're like,
(29:26):
let's just call this bluff. Guys, nobody's given him sixty.
Maybe we get him for under fifty. I don't know.
In a year from now, what if he doesn't play well,
He's not set up for success.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Rob, you know that.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
That's everything you're saying is true. And the flip side
of that is last year he was an All Pro.
And again, the last quarterback who was not injured going
into free agency, who was in this kind of situation. Oh,
by the way, had like twenty five sexual assault cases
looming over his head, got a fully guaranteed track. True,
he was in his prime. But yet, because the way
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the NFL, it's not not for long. For a reason,
I know that you and I and a lot of
smart people would say I'd rather take the young quarterback
build out the rest of my roster and gives me
a four or five year window to see what I
can build around this guy. Hopefully get the right pick.
But most of these NFL decision makers are just trying
to keep their own job.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
That's how you end up with some.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Of these really shitty picks or these really shitty acquisitions
and trades and things like that, because they're like, hey,
this deal, bring up Derek Carr, for example, We're going
to go from seventy million dollars over the cap to
thirty million dollars under the cap without losing any of
our key players, so that we can sign Derek Carr,
which sounds good for the first year or two. And
(30:45):
so you look at their cap shitt and you're like,
holy shit, when they get to like twenty seven, twenty eight,
twenty nine, they're gonna be like at ninety million dollars
in dead cap just sitting there that they can't use.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And that's no.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Yeah, and it's a short sighted decision, but that's typically
what happens in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
We can wrap up just because I didn't even realize this,
but you made me look super smart with this Minnesota
Vikings thing. So in twenty twenty two, the Vikings go
thirteen and four with the new GM Quessi and Kevin
O'Connell in year one, Right, they go thirteen and four,
What do they decide to do? They knew there was
some smoke and mirrors involved. What do they decide to
(31:25):
do the next year? Hey, we're gonna move off Dalvin Cook.
And everybody was like, what dumping Dalvin Cook? They moved
off him and guess what, Dalvin Cook is pretty clearly washed.
Smart move got out in front of it. Now, they
only went seven and ten last year, but that was
the year Kirk Cousins got hurt and Kevin O'Connell made
some major lemonade out of Lemons quarterbacking the likes of
(31:49):
Josh Dobbs for four starts and Nick Mullins for three,
Jaron Hall for two. I mean, the fact that they
won seven games is tremendous. So then they move off
Kirk Cousins. So they moved off star running back, star quarterback,
and they talked about moving off the star wide receiver.
Maybe you're right, Rob, Maybe the Minnesota Vikings are the
team that is forward thinking enough to say we're gonna
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tinker and we're gonna draft quarterbacks every year and we're
gonna not pay wide receivers and run. You know, maybe
now it's tough to stuff like that, Like Justin Jefferson
is one of the popular players in the league. You
know what trading Justin Jefferson is gonna do to your
What the pr hit in Minnesota is like, that's just brutal. Anyways,
that's a long Friday podcast to take you into the weekend. Everybody,
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enjoy the Olympic festivities and we will talk to you Monday.
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