Aaron Torres and Jason Martin Talk Quarterback Contracts, Jets Drama & More!

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How you doing doing?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
All right? What's happening other than rain during the opening ceremonies,
which that felt oddly appropriate.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, there was rain during the opening ceremonies. We'll talk Olympics.
But you know what other rain was coming down? It
was raining cash for NFL quarterbacks yesterday.

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Baby, nicely done.

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Yeah you like that?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Huh?

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Did that right off the top of my head, right
off the top.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Drink a little extra coffee today if you could not
tell by the tone of my voice. But anyway, all right,
so you and I in all seriousness, you know, I
love working with you. Me and you producer Ian we start, uh,
you know, kind of kind of throwing ideas around Friday morning,
Friday afternoon, knowing that we're coming on air here at
eleven pm Eastern on Saturday. And obviously, you know, we

(01:21):
we thought we were gonna lead the show with what
appeared to be on paper three very precarious quarterback situations
in terms of contracts. Well, two got settled on Friday
as Tuatoga Iola Miami Dolphins signs a four year, two
hundred and twelve million dollar deal.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
This was about.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Midday on Friday, and then later in the evening, Jordan
Love of the Green Bay Packers four year deal two
hundred and twenty two million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
So Dak is still on the clock. We'll see what
happens there.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
But I want to go ahead and talk about both
of these, and I actually you want to start and
you know, listen, if we go along on Tua, then
we talk about Jordan Love later on in the show.
But want to start with Tua because I think there
are two very definitive kind of camps on Tua.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
One is obviously, look, you know, he's been.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Injury prone, banged up, is coming off a very productive
year last year in which he was able to stay healthy.
But even then you know, blow a lead in the
AFC East Race, you'll lose in an in an AFC
playoff game in Kansas City. You and I were on
air where it wasn't even competitive. We spent a week
talking about, you know, how's the weather gonna affect the Dolphins.

(02:39):
They're going up north, it's gonna be record lows, And
then it really was. It kind of played out exactly
how we all expected. So there's that side of the coin.
There is, of course, the other side of what is
really the alternative? What else are you going to do?
You're the Miami Dolphins, You've struggled. So those are the
two sides. Tua does get the deal done, he is
with the Dolphins for another four years. Which side do

(03:00):
you land on when you think about Tua as a
Dolphin and this four year contract that will pay him
well over two hundred million dollars.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I mean, I can see the argument for both, but
I think it's a mistake. And I hate to say
that because there's nothing I mean I would love to
see this work out for him, even though I mean,
I don't want to see the Dolphins win a Super
Bowl in mo Broncos fans to be real, but generally,
here's a guy that you mentioned he's been injury prone,

(03:29):
but let's just throw that out the window. He played
all the games last year, okay, and he has decent numbers.
But the second part of the problem, the second part
of your theory, or the second option, is the one
that bothers me because it's what else are you gonna do? Well,
here's the thing you're not gonna do with Tua, based
on what I've seen, win a super Bowl. So if

(03:50):
you're not gonna win a super Bowl with the guy, Look,
if you believe that you're gonna win a super Bowl
with him, then you pay him what you gotta pay him.
And maybe that's the story. He's only the other than
Ryan's Hill. I think since Dan Marino left in nineteen
ninety nine, is the only quarterback to re sign with Miami,
which is crazy, This is an insane stat But even so,

(04:11):
if he's not good enough to win, then what are
you doing other than being mediocre to above average but
not actually cashing it in. That's the biggest and I
honestly think it's the worst place for a franchise to be.
Is almost there. They're in like talk themselves into it mode.
It's like, we're close, we're close, we might be able

(04:33):
to do this. I don't think you can. I just
don't think he's a super Bowl winning quarterback. I don't
just watching him on the field, watching him in big moments.
The Dolphins as a whole are going to have a
lot to prove and a lot of it's going to
ride on him. But I just don't look at that
guy and think he's the answer. So even if you aren't,
it does. And I agree I said this to you yesterday.

(04:55):
I don't know how you improve either. I don't know
how you do better than that right now, But do
you need to immediately, Like I'm looking at the future.
If I can't win today, at the very least, I
don't want to sit here in tread water but never
actually do anything. And I think that's the problem when
you're in quarterback purgatory, where you have a guy that's

(05:17):
he's not bad, but he's not elite by any stretch
of the imagination. He does have some red flags that
you have to worry about on top of all of that.
So that's when I look at it, and I am
very skeptical about handing that guy one hundred and sixty
seven million dollars guaranteed.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
And it's funny because about four or five days ago
I actually filled in with Rob Parker on the Odd Couple,
and I think I was more anti paying Tua even
then than I am now, and I made a lot
of the same points that you did, and Rob, to
his credit, kind of talked me off the ledge because
I think there's a few things.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Is one.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Obviously, when I was talking to Rob about this, this
was under the presumption that Tua was going to do
what every quarterback does and try to get the I mean,
everybody tries to get the most possible money, but basically
make the argument that I should be the highest paid
quarterback because I'm the next one up.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Blahlah blah whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, first of all, obviously there is a lot of
money invested, but one hundred and sixty seven million guaranteed
is only eighth most in the NFL, which makes it
a little bit better.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
But what I would say is.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I do lean, and I did lean in your direction
from the perspective of you can't win at the highest
level with him, and it was almost like, you know,
they used to say back in the day with the NBA,
you either want to be at the bottom totally rebuilding
or having a chance to win a championship. You don't
want to be anywhere in the middle. And that's kind
of where the Dolphins are right now. But as I

(06:41):
looked into this more, I think I'm okay with it.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
One.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
First of all, yes, you broke the bank, but but
you know, relative to what other guys are getting, but
then also relative to what some of these other guys
are going to get. You know, there's reports that Dak
Prescott wants sixty five million a year. You're paying him
a little over fifty. This is too. There's that. There's
the fact that I think what you said is important, Jason,
is that because it's the Dolphins. Because the exact stat

(07:08):
that you've brought up is the one that I was
gonna bring up. Since Dan Marino retired in two thousand,
they have had twenty five different starting quarterbacks in twenty
four seasons. That is insane. And so I think it's
this weird deal where because it's that franchise. This isn't
a franchise like the Packers that has had you know,

(07:31):
farv into Rogers or you know, a lengthy amount of
time with consistently good quarterback play. They have been nothing
short of mediocre essentially a quarterback for twenty plus years.
So you add that in. It's a four year deal.
And I think the other thing is that four year
window is kind of in line with the guys that
you got on the roster right now. Tyreek Hill is

(07:53):
thirty years old. I mean, if he hasn't already hit
his peak, he's pretty darn close, and he's gonna be
there for no longer than a year or two. For
those reasons, I don't love it. You wish you could
have got him a little bit cheaper, and I do
think I do. I do agree with you that the
ceiling with that guy probably is in Super Bowl. I
also don't know that with Tyreek Hill at thirty years old,

(08:13):
you just pay Jalen Waddle that pushing to out the
door and hoping to strike gold in the draft or
whatever is a realistic alternative either. So I'm more on
the side of you paid him. It's okay, But I
do understand where you're coming from.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, I guess it's just I want to believe that
if you are committing that kind of money to a
guy you think he is part of a championship for you,
Maybe that's naive at this standpoint. I mean, you mentioned
Dak and what he's going to request, and I mentioned
that as well yesterday. Not Dak, but just you try
and do this as soon as possible because it's only
going to get more expensive. And when we talk about

(08:50):
Jordan Love, we'll have the exact same conversation there. But
you know, you look at Trevor Lawrence got two hundred
mil and guaranteed money. Jared Goff got one hundred and
seventy MILI guaranteed on his four year, two hundred and
twelve million dollar deal. So you get one sixty seven
if you're toua and I think they wanted more guaranteed.

(09:14):
But luckily, if you're a Dolphins fan, Dolphins were able
to kind of dodge that probably by saying, yeah, with
the injuries and all this other stuff, I don't know
that we can commit that much more to you from guaranteed,
even though that's still a solid amount of money. They
have definitely been a turnstyle at the quarterback position, no
question about it, and maybe this is just going to
be the cost of doing business because I say you can't.

(09:36):
I don't believe you win a championship with Tua as
your starting quarterback. I also think that that goes for
a lot of quarterbacks in the league. I mean, in
any given time, how many quarterbacks are really super Bowl capable?
And a lot of that, look, we have top It's
not an objective thing because a lot of these quarterbacks,

(09:57):
we've seen them in certain systems and they've had advantages,
and there have been other guys that maybe never lived
up to what they could have because of various things.
But I mean, realistically, how many quarterbacks do you look
at in a league at one time and say that
guy can lead a team to a championship. There's not
a ton of eleague guys. They're not. Even though I

(10:18):
think we're in a really great age of quarterback play
right now, I still look at it and you say,
you know, there's always going to be the B plus
teams where everything's got to be perfect and maybe they
can win. And maybe that's where you are. If you're
the Dolphins. You've got a head coach that people love
playing for him, love his offense, need to see something
happen in games that matter that's still out there. But

(10:42):
that might just be what it is. Maybe it's a
B plus team where it's all got to fall into place.
Maybe it's just going to take a little bit of luck,
a little bit because it's not just totally loaded and
you don't have a Hall of Famer at quarterback.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, it's it is. Listen.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's the precarious spot that I think so many of
these teams find themselves in.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
And you know, but I.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Think to your point, I just don't know how many
of these guys really, I mean really realistically can you know.
I mean, you go down the list, it's it's probably
not as big as people think, especially when you factor
in all the other Like you even look at somebody
like Trevor Lawrence, it's like, well, he's great, he's at
his moments, yes, if everything breaks right, is does he

(11:24):
have the talent to get you to a super Bowl,
to win a Super Bowl? Maybe he probably does, but
the team around him isn't good enough. He hasn't actually
proven it. But it's like, you know, and but it's
kind of the same thing. You can't not pay him.
So it's an interesting situation. It's a precarious situation, but
the Miami Dolphins did go ahead and get to that contract.
Tell you what, Jason will come back and we will

(11:44):
look at the other big contract that was handed out
on Friday. Jordan Love, he got paid. He is now
one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league. And
I'll tell you, I think I maybe have a little
bit more questions about this one than even Tua will
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(14:24):
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time to turn our attention to Jordan Love. Four years,
two hundred and twenty million, dollars. Jordan Love now tied
a top the highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL, alongside

(14:45):
Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow. Jamartin I got some thoughts,
but but you know your first reaction when you saw
the news that Jordan Love got the contract that he
had been hoping for.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Just that he didn't have to play very much to
get a ton of money.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I mean that's really what it was. It was just
like wow, I mean, he really did. This time last
year we were all in well maybe not all, but
I think you and I were kind of on the
same page of all right, he's got a blank slate.
We're gonna see what he can do because we don't
really know anybody saying they do is begging. It's just
not there yet. We had one year where it felt

(15:23):
like they were sending all the signals that he wasn't
the guy, and then as soon as Aaron Rodgers was gone,
he's a second coming, so we need to see what
he does. So he went out there, and to me,
he exceeded all expectations that I have for him. Played
great now through a terrible interception that ended their season.
Would like to have it back, but we've seen a

(15:44):
lot of great quarterbacks do that. He did nothing to
indicate he can't be the guy. But he just hadn't
played very much and you gave him a I mean,
you gave him an exorbitant amount of money. And I
was thinking to myself it was just like I mean,
I used to talk out. You know, a college football
team has like a good season, then the coach wants
he's all of a sudden, he's he's job hunting, and

(16:07):
they nobody dares a coach to try and get that
money elsewhere. They just end up paying them and then
they have this exorbitant buyout when it doesn't work out
or it's a one year wonder or something like that.
I look at this and it's just you haven't seen much.
It was very good, however, and this could be true
for anybody. I mean, I love CJ. Stroud, but he

(16:30):
hasn't played a ton yet either. But defenses are gonna
have tape and they are going to come back and
play this guy for a second time. And how is
he going to perform then? Because you've committed your entire
franchise to him at this point, like you've you have
said not only have we turned a page, but Kamala Harris,
you are the nominee, like we have. We have completely

(16:54):
and totally made the switch and are one hundred percent
all in, and we've done it on less. There was less.
I think there was less football play here than there
was for Jimmy g before he got his money no
in San Francisco, and that that didn't exactly work out.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
No exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
And it's wild because you know, two things I think
can be true in any of these cases. But I
think in the case of Jordan Love right, like, there's
really no alternative because obviously you have a young team,
you're coming off a second round playoff appearance, Like, there's
no other alternative. You're gonna have to pay him, right,
But I do also and oh, by the way, he's young.

(17:31):
He doesn't have the and you know he's he's young,
so he's not dak you know, like like you know not.
He hasn't had the playoff disappointments yet, he doesn't have
the injury history that to it does, so so you're
gonna have to pay him. I also think my reaction
yesterday seeing the number and I understand that again he
was gonna get paid. This is kind of the price
that it's gonna take in this era with this new

(17:53):
tvd all that. It is kind of wild though, like
people say, oh, you know, well he's only had a
good you know, he's only had a good half a year,
and that's a lot, which is true.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I taken a step further.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
He didn't even have that good of a half a
year what he did, and I actually give him credit
for this.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I was joking with somebody this week.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I was like, he might be the reverse Kirk Cousins
from the perspective that Kirk Cousins was always we all
know the history of him in primetime. Jordan Love I
think made this money because he was really good in
three standalone games and everybody's watching. He beat Patrick Mahomes
head to head at home on a Sunday night game.

(18:33):
He beat the Lions on Thanksgiving, and of course that
Cowboys game. We were, you know, fifty million people or
whatever we're watching that Divisional round game against the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
And so on the one hand, look.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Beat the Super Bowl champs, beat a division rival who
was in the NFC Championship game, and of course beat
the Cowboys on the road. But on the other hand,
in that eight game stretch, nine game stretch end of
the season wherever it was said, oh, they you know,
he was out of this world. He actually lost to
the New York Giants. He actually lost to Tampa Bay
Buccaneers at home. You know, he didn't played great against
the Chicago Bears in a winning home. So again, I'm

(19:07):
not saying he shouldn't have gotten the money because there
is no real alternative. But I think even the narrative
that like, oh, I mean, I mean after the back
half of the season that he had, there's no way
you can't pay him, And it's like, well, yes, you
have to pay him, but even that back half isn't
quite as good as a lot of people remember it.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Well, yes, I think he makes some valid points. I
also really thought he played well for the most part,
and he's only going to get better because that really
was his first season playing. I think my only my
hesitation on taking all that into consideration is he hasn't
played a lot. There's still a lot of room to grow,

(19:48):
But you're paying him before that growth has taken place,
No doubt, you are paying him so fast. I think
he is going to get better. I do he looks
like the truth to me, looks like he's legit and
he's gonna be around for a while. But sixty four
percent completion percentage, that's that's gonna need to jump just
a little bit. It's not bad, but it's not great.

(20:10):
Thirty two touchdowns to eleven interceptions. Eleven interception is not bad,
it's it's better than average. And his passer rating was
a ninety six point one. I liked what I saw
from him in year one, but you paid him like
he's accomplished something and I don't know that he has.
That's the only thing. That's the only place I slow down.
But we again, this may just be the cost of
doing business. Now, we may be naive. We have to

(20:32):
start looking at this differently because not just because of
the cap where if he goes it, has another great season,
then he's gonna want sixty five a year or whatever.
But more than anything, it just looks like, if you've
got a guy you think could be your guy, then
this sky's limit in terms of what you're willing to
pay him. I did say to you when we were
talking about this yesterday in our text chat that if

(20:56):
they think Jordan Love is a guy that can win
them a super and Matt mcfloor. I think at this
point we can say he understands offense, is pretty solid
head coach. If they believe that Jordan Love can get
them to the Promised Land and he is that good,
then pay him as soon as possible so you don't
have to pay him later and pay him more. So
if that's kind of their thinking is it's only going

(21:18):
to get more expensive. He's young. Let's go ahead and
make him happy now so he doesn't you know, So
there's not any kind of I don't know issues between
quarterback and front office, because that's the thing that has
certainly happened with that franchise multiple times throughout the course
of our lifetime. Maybe that is sort of the equation,
the rationale that they're going with of doing this. I

(21:40):
do think it seems to be awfully quick to get
this done, but there has to be a reason.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Let me ask you this, is it quick only because
he's in his fourth year. I mean he's going into
his fifth year. Yeah, I mean, you know, And I
think that's the variable where it doesn't it feels like
it's quick, and in some ways it is because he's
only been a startup for one year. But that's kind
of the precarious situation you put and I understand when
they drafted him. Rogers was coming off a little bit

(22:07):
of a down year and you can't anticipate that he's
gonna win back to back MVPs or maybe you know.
I don't think you can assume that for anybody, but
you know, I may put to put it delicately like
Rodgers had more left in the tank than the Packers thought,
but it came up quick. But it really didn't come
up quick because this is his fifth year in the NFL.
It's just that he is the extremely rare case where

(22:30):
he didn't play until year four. Jase, I mean, we
talk about guys now. I mean it's like, if you
get drafted in the first round, the presumption is you're
starting right away. Like that was what made the Michael
Pennix thing so shocking obviously this year, but like even
somebody like JJ McCarthy, it's like, well they have Sam Darnold,
but I mean McCarthy will probably be starting by the
midway point of the season. I mean, Jordan Love went

(22:52):
three full seasons, started a grand total of one game,
and that was the game of course that Aaron Rodgers
has depositive for COVID with the whole I'm whatever he said,
I'm I'm what did he say, I'm whatever, I'm innocuate,
I'm an I'm I can't remember what he said, but
you know, Aaron Rodgers said something, didn't have the vacs whatever.
Who cares the point I'm trying to make. That was
the only career start that Jordan Love had prior to

(23:14):
last season.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah again, I mean I think that I think that
he played well enough to give you a lot of
hope if you were a Green Bay fan. But they
really have committed the franchise to him at this point,
with as much guaranteed as he's getting and as fast
as he is getting it, you have turned over the
keys faster than you you see. I mean, even look,

(23:38):
you're you're right about when he started and how long
he sat, and and really what's odd about that is
maybe this is not a thing that franchises can do
anymore because you don't get the rookie window. Yeah, you
don't get Joe Burrow, you don't get Justin Herbert, you
don't get a lot of this time to build around you.

(24:00):
Don't get CJ. Stroud starting immediately. Maybe you're gonna have
to start him immediately because Jordan Love got good, or
you prove that he was good in one season and
then you had to turn around and pay him over
two hundred million dollars immediately, like you didn't get anything
back on that. Now, was he gonna be that good
if he didn't sit for a couple of years. I
don't know. We're never gonna know, but we have gone

(24:23):
to a place I think in negotiating and just the
way football is gonna work, that the days of quarterbacks
being drafted and sitting are gonna be over, not just
because of fan expectations, but because you've got to maximize
that investment before you have to commit so much of
your franchise overall cap to it that you can't afford

(24:43):
to sit somebody down for three years.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's such a good point. It's such a good point.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
And again I know that ultimately again when they drafted
Jordan Love, they didn't think that Aaron Rodgers had as
much left in the tank as he did. But it
is a great point that you kind of put yourself
in this precarious situation where if a got for By
the way, the opposite could be true, could be true
as well.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Jason.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You know, if he doesn't play well last year, you
know he's coming towards the end of that rookie contract,
and I know there's you know, franchise tags and all that.
But let's say he didn't play well last year. I mean,
do you just move off of them after a year.
It's just it's an interesting point. And the not starting
until year four is very unique. To your point, I

(25:27):
don't think we'll see much of it in the NFL
going forward. Fox Sports Radio Era Toards Jason Martin broadcasting
live from the Tyreck dot Com studios, will come back.
We'll discuss some other news and notes from a busy
week of NFL.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
But first let's get to what's trending with Steve Saga.
What's up Sager?

Speaker 8 (25:43):
And by the way, I looked it up that Jordan
loves playoff win at Dallas, Fox got forty million viehwa. Yeah,
knew it was a monster, which was the highest audience
any wildcard game his head in almost a decade.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
I mean, he's the reverse Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I mean, if you're gonna be good, do it on
Sunday Night Football against Patrick Mahoss Thanksgiving Day, and a
couple of.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
Years before, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs. Remember
that's right, expanded playoffs. Speaking of TV ratings, the little
con context, the NBA regular season that just finished, the
national TV games averaged one point six million viewers. Olympic
opening ceremony got twenty eight point six million viewers.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Twenty eight point six yesterday. That is interesting.

Speaker 8 (26:22):
We will get to Olympic news in a moment while
you're talking. NFL. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson returned to practice today.
He had missed four of the first five due to illness.
Steelers quarterback Russell Wilson did not practice again due to
a calf injury, but he did participate in individual drills.
Lions kicker Michael Badgeley was officially placed on ir torn hamstring,
the problem he's out for the year. Saints defensive back

(26:44):
Marshawn Lattimore sat out practice with a hip flexor injury,
and the Jets signed your favorite eron tours, Adrian Martinez,
the UFL MVP quarterback.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
So you're going to say former Yukon Husky Tim Boyle
I thought this was.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
No.

Speaker 8 (26:59):
Yeah, only we could be that lucky.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Well he was.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
He was the backup last year.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
Well, we've seen the starter, so I think in a
sense we've seen the backup. The Hall of Fame Exhibition
is Thursday, believe it or not. At Thursday. It's August first,
Texans against Bears. Every other team starts the preseason schedule
at least a week later.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Real quick, do we know? Is eber Flusa play guys
in the preseason? Guy like you think we'll see Caleb.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
Oh, he's got to play this guy, doesn't he?

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I hope? So, I mean, don't you don't know what
you have?

Speaker 8 (27:28):
It's true, and you actually are attempting to do something
this year. I mean they are quite confident this year.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I mean everybody's saying it's the best situation that any
rookie's ever walked into.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
We talked about that last week. Go back now, listen
to the podcast. Have you missed that?

Speaker 8 (27:40):
Yeah, you just can't sit line or receivers while he's in,
obviously because that would be counterproductive. But yes, I'm expecting
him to see in preseed. I would be disappointed if
I did not see him in preseason. Record to the Olympics.
US men swimming won the gold tonight in the four
by one hundred freestyle relay, beating Australia. In the women's relay,
Australia won the gold, with the silver going to the US.

(28:01):
Katie Ladecci took bronze in the four hundred meter freestyle.
Canada men's basketball defeated Greece eighty six seventy nine despite
thirty four points from Jannis Antennacumpo. US men's basketball starts
Sunday against Serbia and the scandal. Canada's women's soccer coach
Bev Priestman was suspended for a year for using drones

(28:22):
to spy on opponents in recent years. They finally got
caught this past week in France spying on their opening opponent.
This is like Watergate, where there's one arrest and it covers,
uncovers this entire thing that's been going on for years,
that's founding.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Aby using the drone in this situation, How is it not, Belichick?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, oh, Canada, oh very good. Yeah, Yeah,
it wasn't that good, but it's okay. I appreciate you playing.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
It up now as good as a segue earlier that.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Was good raining money on these quarterbacks. Continue to Sager,
I'm cutting you off.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
I'm sorry, we are done. Just to remind that we've
got not only the basketball tomorrow, there's US Women's soccer tomorrow.
There was less on the Saturday schedule, but we got
two weeks worth of Olympics. NASCAR's off for two weeks,
WNBA's off for about a month, Women's soccer league's off
for about a month. So a lot going on in France.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Thank you very much to Seger.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday An Tours
Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot
Com studios. So, Jay mart you reference the tees from
earlier in the show because I said, you said it
was rainy at the opening ceremonies, and I said, yeah,
but it was also ranting cash on all these quarterbacks.
Jordan Love gets paid to it, gets paid. The one

(29:38):
guy that's sitting there, you know, I got mean. I
guess he got paid a while ago, but he's looking
to get paid again, as Dak Prescott. Obviously, what makes
the Cowboys unique is that it is at a time
when CD lamp has not reported to training camp because
he is looking for a new deal. Obviously, Michael Parsons
is looking for a new deal. And when I financially
about all three of these quarterback situations, they're all little

(30:00):
bit different. The Cowboys obviously, DA's a little bit older,
he's had the shortcomings in the playoffs, and as I mentioned,
those two young guys want to get paid and want
to get paid. Now, what do you make of a
crazy situation in Dallas?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I mean that again, we're talking about a ton of money,
and eventually, if you're gonna pay somebody, are they gonna win? Right? Like?
I mean, I understand they're really good, but how much
money do you pay to just keep being really good?
I know we had this same conversation about Tua. I

(30:38):
look at Ceedee Lamb and I say, look, Ceedee Lamb
is one of those guys. He's one of those outstanding
wide receivers. I've also started looking at wide receivers and
I'm wondering, but are they are there not too many
good ones to commit too much money to anyone? And
I know that there's differences. You've got a Justin Jefferson

(30:59):
or Jamar Chase, and I think Ceedee Lamb falls in.
But I also think that we are getting on average
two or three wide receivers a year now out of
the draft at least that end up being just unbelievable,
really really fast. It used to it used to be
a position that it took a while to kind of
develop in the NFL, and now it's just kind of become.

(31:21):
I would say it's necessarily the new running back. But
it does seem like you can find yourself a really
really good wide receiver if you want one, not just
in the draft, but you could always find one. I
do think Ceedee Lamb is one of those kind of
elite ones that maybe you do pay of the two,
which one? Which one would you pay me?

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Personally?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
So I don't know if you gave a definitive this
is what I would do, But everything that you said
aligns with with what what I believe is that listen, listen.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
First of all, I'll say this about dak You know,
we know what he is.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
He's great in the community, great representation of the universe
of the you know, we'll get to college football in
the second hour, but great representative of the of the
star of the organization.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Never gets in any trouble.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Always said to God, yeah, yeah, great guy. Sounds like
Brownie James on a football.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I was gonna say, no, no, it sounds like like
we're setting him up on a date.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Oh he's a great guy, But what's the butt.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
The butt is he's thirty years old and we have
seen him year after year after year after year not
get it done in the biggest games that matter in
the in the postseason. I should say he's had some
big moments in the regular season. And I am with you.
Is that I listen, if I was Jerry, by the way,
I said, before you and I were even working together,
I said this the last time his contract came up.

(32:41):
Is if you're Jerry or Stephen Jones or whatever, you
have to tell him like, dude, we can pay you,
but there's a cap to what we can pay you,
because we got because first of all, you know, we've.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Let me backtraight.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
We've seen you as as as you got paid, and
as the roster around you, he wasn't as good. You've
had success, but you haven't elevated your individual play. You've
been as good.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
I know.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
There was moments last year where people were talking about
him as an MVP, but he kind of regretsed.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
The meaning was what he was.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
And so glad you said it that way, because that's
where I am.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah, and so I know where you're I.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Know exactly where you're headed. It's like you're a guy
where stuff needs to be good around you. And in
order for stuff to be good around you, we can't
give you everything. We can't give you any in your
bank account. Yeah, and we got to give some of
these other guys that stuff too. I'll tell you what
I said.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Let's come back and continue this because I think Dak
is fascinating. He is looking for a new contract. Cdelam
is looking for a new contract. We'll continue this conversation
next Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (33:46):

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Eric Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot
Com studios. Before the break, we were talking about the
precarious situation in Dallas. Dak Prescott wants to get paid.
The problem Ceedee Lamb wants to get paid. Michael Parsons
wants to get paid. And this is a salary cap league.
There's only so much you could do now it is

(34:12):
worth noting earlier in the week, Jerry Jones, in specific
reference to Dak said that we fully expect him to
be a cowboy next year. I don't know what else
he would say, and Stephen Jones actually today referenced that
there has been movement with both DAK and CD.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
But before the break, Jason, I mean we were.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think honestly, just having an honest conversation about Dak
Prescott great in the community, represents the organization.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Well.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I just don't know that he comes up big enough
in big games, and it is clear that you need
talent around him. And so as weird as it sounds,
I'm not saying you have to get CD's deal done first,
but I don't know what DAK is without CD.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
And there, you know, we know everything that.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Was lost in the offseason outside of you know, you know,
not including CD, who's obviously still there. Point I'm trying
to make is great guy great whatever, great, this is
great that, but we've seen who he is. He's on
the other side of thirty. This isn't Jordan Love that
has a one year sample size. This isn't Tua that
was awesome last year. And if he could stay healthy,

(35:19):
who knows. We kind of know who Dak is right now,
and I understand the Cowboys being hesitant to push forward
on a long term extension.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Thirty six touchdowns, nine interceptions, sixty nine zero point five
percent completion. I mean, the numbers are really really good.
As we said, he was third in yards. But the
question you asked is the right one. What is he
without Cebee Lamb? Is he more dependent on what's around

(35:49):
him than what's around him being dependent on him? And
I don't know if that's I don't think it's all
or nothing. I think it's sixty forty or forty sixty
or maybe even closer than that. I also think Dak
Prescott strikes me as somebody that if he were to
leave and go somewhere else he might be better because

(36:11):
he's not going to be playing for the Cowboys anymore.
Then he can maybe just go play football. I think
he's exactly who you want is to face your franchise.
But is he who you want on the field fourth
quarter in an NFC playoff game? I don't know. As
matter of fact, I do know no he's not, because
we would have seen it by now. Every stat tells

(36:32):
you you should pay him whatever he wants. One O
six is his passer rating. I mean, he's superb in
all those things, but he hadn't done anything, but neither
has the franchise. So I do think there are systemic problems.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Doesn't say how much do you think are tie? Are
those are tied together?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I think there. I think it's all kind of one.
That's why I'm saying if he goes somewhere else, I
wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he took a
springboard and really was more along the lines of what
most of the people that love him have said about him.
In terms of a football player, he doesn't strike me
as the guy that I want under pressure, and especially
not Cowboys pressure, just because he does seem to come

(37:14):
up small in the moments where you need him and
what he's asking for. If he's legitimately asking for that,
I almost think you've got to You've got to hold
him to it and say, all right, if you can
get that somewhere else, good luck. Like there has to
be a ceiling somewhere when you're not winning playoff games
with the guy and you've already given him a crazy contract.

(37:36):
A few years ago, You've been pretty loyal to him
throughout his career, and he's been a little to you too,
But he also continually comes to you when he wants
to get more money, which of course he does, and
you can't blame him for it, but you can call
his bluff and say, go get it somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
So two things.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
One, I agree with that, and I do think again,
it's a little bit different than a TUA than a whoever,
because you know, Ceedee lamb Is is twenty five years old,
you'd think that, you know, basically you can draft hypothetically,
let's say Dak doesn't you know, you can't get a
deal done with Dak. You could draft a rookie quarterback,
and that rookie quarterback is gonna sort of be on
the same timeline as CD, where again, Tyreek Hill is

(38:15):
much more in line with the contract that you just
gave to et cetera. I think the counter is also
true as well, and I do wonder I'm sure, But
but behind the scenes, if Dak's people are using this
to his advantage, which is, yeah, Dak might be on
the other side of thirty, Yeah he might, but.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
You know, you know who else is getting up there
in age.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Not just Dak, it's Jerry Jones, And I'm just curious, like,
I don't know if you say this to your bosson negotiations,
and I know Dak isn't the one speaking, but like,
do you want to start over at eighty one years old?
Do you want to start over with a rookie quarterback?
And I think the other thing that's interesting if this
thing craters out this year, by the way it I

(38:58):
think it's weird and it's gonna be interesting. What if
does win twelve thirteen games again this year? But you know,
it's like so one he could have that season, he
might have no choice but to pay him. But then
the counter is is that if you lose him, if
you let him walk, then you're probably gonna have to
get a rookie quarterback and you're probably not gonna get
the marquee head coach if you have to get rid

(39:19):
of Mike McCarthy. So that's the other thing too, is
it becomes a pseudo rebuild. So it's just a very
interesting scenario in Dallas. I'm not sure there's a perfect
answer as to what they should do, but they find
themselves in a mess.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Jason yeah, man, I don't know that there is either,
And I think maybe they're in a situation where they
feel pot committed. And I've seen other people say if
he goes out, the Raiders should give him whatever he
wants and all this kind of stuff. I'm like, again,
you're giving him whatever he wants, but what you should
want as a super Bowl? Yeah, and you have to
believe that he can actually win that for you to

(39:51):
commit this kind of money to him, or you're just
gonna be running in place. I don't want to be
on a treadmill. I want to actually get somewhere.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
There is no doubt.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
And it is a fascinating set up with Dallas as
Dak Prescott is looking for a new deal against CD
Lamb and Micah Parsons as well. Fox Sports Radio air
towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyrex Studios.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
We have, uh, we have.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
We have a busy, busy two more hours ahead. Uh, Jason,
I'll tell you what, man, we got to get some
college football.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Did you see what?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
But real quick? Did you We're gonna get to it
next hour. Did you see what Lincoln Riley said this week? Jason,
I mean he said a lot. But did you see
what he said?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Notre Dame King Lincoln Row is actually getting kind of
on my nerves.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Oh, he's getting on your nerves and we're gonna discuss
it all. Guess what Kirby Smart's getting on my nerves
now with how he's running to program. We're gonna discuss
both those topics. Also, the Olympics have begun, twenty eight
million people watch the opening ceremonies.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Nerves.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Oh, Jason's fired up.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
We're gonna discuss all that next air Tours, Jason Martin,
We are in on a busy Saturday night. One hour
in the book books, two hours to go. We have
so much more to discuss.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
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Speaker 4 (41:17):
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(41:42):
Show will follow us. So Jason, I am here in
the tyraq La studios. We got three different TVs on
with the Olympics, and it is obviously the first full
day at least, you know, here on the West Coast,
it's still Saturday, Saturday, the first full day of the Olympics.

(42:02):
The opening ceremonies on Friday, to as de Seger said,
drew twenty eight million viewers, way more than I was anticipating.
And I do think it's interesting because every single time
the Olympics are played, we always have these conversations about
their kind of role in the sports ecosystem, and you know,

(42:22):
we kind of live in this world where every sport
is broadcast and we get sports every single day. Essentially,
it seems like, whatever, where do the Olympics stand in
your opinion? Do they still matter? Is it something that
you tune into for a couple weeks every four years?
Are you into it? Are you not into it? Where
are you at with the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I'm not really into it. I think where I stand
and just kind of how I evaluate it is the
Olympics still has viewers, but you're not hanging around with
a bunch of your friends who are sports fans talking

(43:03):
about the Olympics. But if you are somebody that doesn't
watch sports all that much, but you do get caught
up in pageantry or parades or royal family or you
know that kind of thing, I feel like it bridges
that gap. You heard just Segre say in the first hour,
what twenty eight million watch the opening ceremonies, But how

(43:24):
many theme are sports fans? Like? I watched a little
bit because my wife had it on. I saw the
US I heard Peyton Manning, I heard Kelly Clarkson. It
was kind of odd. I saw some dude playing piano
in a downpour. And then I saw some things that
made me want to boycott the Olympics completely because they

(43:47):
just offended my sensibilities and my faith and every every
every aspect of common decency for any human being. But
perspective of that, I think that's what it is. I
don't think it's a bunch of real, like hardcore sports
fans watching the Olympics. I just don't. I think that

(44:07):
the viewership comes from the cultural context, the international and
of course you put it in Paris, so then there's
a lot more to look at. There's a lot more,
you know, just esthetically, it becomes something that's it just
feels like it's like the same kind of people to
watch the Olympics are to me, are more likely to
go to art museums than they are the Phillies game,

(44:28):
if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
That's really interesting because actually that's kind of you know,
the exact situation that I find with myself is that
I it was actually very interesting. So like my wife
like literally asked me during the day yesterday. Now, admittedly
I didn't know that they were broadcasting the opening ceremonies live.
By the way, I know what you were talking about

(44:51):
with some of the you know, decisions that were made,
you know, what to highlight during the opening ceremonies. Weirdly,
I don't think they showed that, you know, that scene that.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
I certainly hope not. I didn't see that live. I
saw it the way most people did, I think social media.
But it I pray that did not air on television either,
one of the two things that were most offensive.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, I actually didn't see it, and I was kind
of looking for it because I wanted to see what
all the you know what, you know whatever. At bottom
line is what I would say is it was interesting
because my wife did like, Hey, do you want to
watch the opening ceremonies.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
I was actually kind of surprised by it.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Again, did not realizing that they were actually broadcasting it
in real time. It was on the West coast early afternoon,
and then they replayed it in the evening time. And
then it was also interesting because today I'm in the
room doing work. You know, it's kind of that time
of year where I'm trying to get ready for football season,
catch up on everything that I missed, you know, go
through all the preview magazines, do whatever. And then the

(45:51):
other room, I hear her watching you know whatever. As
a matter of fact, I can tell you what was
going on. What was on TV at that exact moment
was the candidate Grease basketball game, because I I heard like,
Shake guil just Alexander, and I was like, are you
like she I guarantee you that is the first time
in her life she has ever seen Shake guild justs
Alexander play basketball.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Didn't watch him for a single game in Oklahoma City.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
She's not an NBA fan, She's not even really a
basketball fan, but she had it on and then you know,
kind of goes to the other sports whatever. So I
think there's definitely something to it where I think there's
a lot of people that get into it. I guess
I would disagree that that, you know, the people that
watch it are I don't think you said this, but
you know, I think I'm a pretty die hard sports
fan and I tune it in. I tune into it,

(46:36):
excuse me, but I also tune into it as a
casual viewer. I don't go into it expecting that you
and I are gonna be talking Katie Ledecki when we
when we sign on at eleven pm Eastern times.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
So see, now, look if she look there are certain
athletes and certain storylines that I would I would disagree
and say, yes, you do, but they're few and far between. Yes,
most of it. It is athletes that you don't know
about that you come to know about. You hear their story,
you see the you know, the human interest pieces and
all that, and they've worked so hard and then you

(47:11):
just you root for the flag more than anything, and
you learn about them as each sport goes along. But
there are your Michael Phelps you're you saying bolts through
the years, You're Katie Ladecki's as you mentioned Team USA basketball, like,
there are some things that change the game, but like
ninety five percent of what happens at the Olympics is
not something that the vast majority of our audience is

(47:34):
gonna want us to talk about even if they did
watch it.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Well, and that's what I was gonna ask you, is
you know you said that you don't believe that, Like
the casual guy that you know that watches twelve hours
of football on a Sunday is sitting around, is telling
his boys, hey, let's go hit the sports bar and
catch the Olympics that starting at eleven am, like you
might on a football Sunday. But my counter to that
would be is that because it's the Olympics, or is

(48:01):
that because there are none of those generational athletes? Because
I do think, like you know, a couple things. One,
obviously there are things that are I think probably the
only thing that's super mainstream this year in the Olympics
is probably men's basketball, specifically Team USA. If for some
reason they struggle, if for some reason they don't win gold,

(48:22):
I think that's that becomes a very mainstream talking point.
But I do wonder, like I feel like Michael Phelps
was a big deal in like twenty sixteen.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
You know, Usain Bolt was a big deal.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
It was funny even Michael Pelps was on the TV
today and you know, my wife and my sister in
law were over. My sister in law was over and
they know exactly who he was, and oh I used
to watch him. So do you think it's it's because
we just don't have those mainstream athletes as opposed to
people that there's that there's no like instead of saying
like there's no talking points for like diehard sports fans.

(48:57):
Do you think that's this specific Olympics or do you
think it's like just do you think is this specific
Olympics or do you think we've just kind of reached
that era where it's casual viewing as opposed to kind
of like hardcore viewing, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Well, I mean I think I think more so this
Olympics than maybe it has been, But I think we've
been trending towards this. Yes, when you have a transcendent
athlete or you have one that's more that has more
mainstream appeal that you've known, that you followed their career.
That does change it to some degree. And yes, okay,
you're going to look at the schedule over a two

(49:32):
week span and find out when Michael Phelps was swimming,
for example, and you are going to tune it in
and you can go back and you can look at
the ratings for certain events at certain times with certain athletes,
and you'll see that. You'll see that play out pretty consistently.
I think the Olympics as a whole. There's a few

(49:53):
things here. One is it felt a lot more special
when we didn't have sports all the time, but we do.
We have over a dozen networks devoted to nothing but
twenty four to seven sports. We have it completely at
our fingertips, on our phones, on our tablets, and on

(50:14):
our desktops. Let me everywhere, let me jump into.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
There's the thing that I think people underestimate too, is
that stuff, besides, like the super mainstream stuff, has become
sort of mainstream. Right, So it's like, oh, it used
to be like the NBA Finals would end and there'd
just be a dead period.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Well, it's like this year we had Copa. Copa got
good numbers.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
You know, you know, Summer League is sort of a
thing that you're not living and dying by it, but
it's on so like even from like ten years ago,
Like I don't remember Summer League being on every single night,
you know, for two straight weeks. I don't remember COPA
being a thing. I don't remember Euros being as big
of a thing. So that's the other thing too, is

(50:54):
it's not just that everything is accessible twenty four hours
a day, but it's also that I just feel like
more things, even if they're a little bit more niche,
are more available to us than they were even a
decade ago.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah. I think that's true too. I mean that's definitely true.
But again, when you have all these different outlets that
can put this stuff out, and you have access to
every game, slash sport, I mean, you've got video games
being played on TV, even though that seems to be
dying out a little bit. You've got Cornhole on TV.
You've got all of these kinds of things. It no

(51:29):
longer feels as unique. Every four years, even if it's
still the best and all this, there's a championship in
some sport seemingly every day on some channel, Like there's
something that's supposed to matter, and I think it all
just becomes noise. And then you also add into that
everything else that we have access to that we're paying

(51:49):
for via streaming services and all this other stuff that's
not sports as well. And so to get my attention
on the Olympics, it better be something special that you've
been able to sell me on in advance. It's not
just going to be me watching for six hours a
night track and field or all this. I remember growing

(52:10):
up watching the eighty four Olympics when I was six.
I remember watching at my grandma and granddaddy's house in Virginia.
I remember sitting on the floor with my legs crossed
watching the television through that time period, and then of
course nineteen eighty eight and ninety two and ninety six,
and then when it was in Atlanta right there in

(52:31):
ninety six, I was in Atlanta at the time that
the opening ceremonies were about to start, just barely avoiding
being in the wrong place as a matter of fact,
with what happened there. But I think, and maybe it
has to some degree as I've gotten older, but I
just think the myriad of options that are now out
there both sports and otherwise just makes it feel much

(52:52):
less special as an event. It doesn't seem nearly as
iconic as it once did.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yeah, and I think there's so to it. I think
it's the I think it's the having everything available. And
I just think, like I said, is that there's just
there's so much sports. It's not just you know again,
I go back to even ten years ago, it's like
you'd watch whatever, You'd watch the mainstream stuff. You'd watch,

(53:20):
you know, the NFL and major college football and the
NCAA tournament and MLB and whatever, NBA, but it really
felt like once the NBA finals were done, it was
like there was no sports. And now again we had
COPA this summer, we have Summer League becomes a thing
for a week or two, we have you know whatever,
fill in the blanks.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
So it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
By the way I'm looking it up, it looks like
in twoenty sixteen, that was the final year that Michael
Phelps swam, viewership for his final race peaked at thirty
two million viewers. Now, admittedly that was a historic moment
with a historic Olympian, but it does speak to I
just think it's a different world.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
I'm with you and I I pretty much.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I guess what I would say is I basically agree
with everything that you said, is that I think it
draws in a casual viewer.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
I think it's a casual watch just in general.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Of Again, I think there are certain moments that you
and I know, Hey, if the US, like if you
and I were doing a Sunday show instead of a
Saturday show and the US loses to Serbia and men's basketball, mark, yeah,
we're gonna be talking about that, but they're just it's
just not like a die hard sports kind of thing.
But it still is pretty cool nonetheless, But real quick,

(54:34):
I still enjoy it even if it's a different kind
of watch.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Are you the same?

Speaker 3 (54:38):
I agree with that, Yeah, yes, yeah, Like I just
I'm not like sitting there with the back of the
day TV guide making sure I'm watching every second of it.
It's just it doesn't hold my attention that way. But certainly, yes,
I'm sure it will be on from time to time
as I'm living my life. It's just I'm not living

(54:59):
my life around the Olympics. And there was a time
where it felt like the Olympics was such a happening
that it almost seemed like the events of the world,
or at least the events in the country, kind of
slowed to a crawl and everything was about the five rings.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Very interesting stuff. Olympics one day officially in the books,
of course. The opening ceremonies was Friday night. Fox Sports
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You won't believe what Lincoln Riley said, and you won't
believe what it means for one of the biggest games
on the football schedule ahead. That's next Fox Sports Radio.

(55:59):
Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Her tours. Jason Martin
broadcasting live from the tirec dot com studios. You gotta
hear what Lincoln Raley had to say this week. It's
gonna get the blood boiling of any true college football fan.
Gonna get to that in just one moment for you.
Let's toss it over the news desk to sager, what

(56:21):
is trending.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
My friend.

Speaker 8 (56:22):
We'd have the Irish theme song in the background here
to start this segment after that, by the way, you
guys referenced it, just to flesh it out. One of
the offensive moments to people online in the opening ceremonies
from Paris yesterday was it seemed like they were mocking
the well Christ himself because it was the Last Supper.
It seemed like the Last Supper painting how they were

(56:43):
lined up. It was actually in the Olympics had said this,
that was the Bacchanalia feast Greek God, Greeks, Olympics Da
Vinci with the painting born in Italy, and that painting
is in Italy, not French. So I get the confusion
on that it was framed like the Last Supper if
the camera was looking straight at a table of people.
There are other things to be offended on that should

(57:05):
not be one of them. But my overall reaction to
yesterday's opening ceremony in Paris, and we talked about a
bit on the air last night was I can't believe
they pulled it off to not use a stadium and
have it all outside and it rained.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Has there been any.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Response to like fans in the stands, because I don't,
I don't. They wouldn't have been aware of any area,
you know, moving cameras and you know this guy's as
Jason said, is playing a piano up there and there's.

Speaker 8 (57:32):
Three and a half miles of people along the river.
I can't imagine. Yeah, that everybody picked up on everything.
I know there were a lot of video screens up
and down the river, so maybe they could enjoy it
that way.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
But the only thing that we found in our household
my wife was born in Guatemala. They were on the
same ship as Great Britain. They showed Great Britain went
right to commercial after that shoot. There was some actually
fire and brimstone in the Taurus Al Laatemala's neighbor El
Salvador or they were in commercials. Yeah, shoes fired, but
they did very much take advantage of being in one

(58:03):
of the world's beautiful and historic cities, even with the rain,
and it was quite an accomplishment, and sometimes it was
you know, French and just plain weird. Yeah, but there
were good moments, including the new idea to parade the athletes.
I mean, that metal band at the castle was odd.
But there were some funny memes about where LA should
do it. You know they're gonna do it at the

(58:24):
La Colisseum, but probably some inappropriate comments about you know,
skid row and things like that, but people had some
funny comments on where they should do it.

Speaker 8 (58:32):
It was on local LA radio right after the Paris
opening ceremony. Their conclusion was, it's not possible in LA
because it's too spread out.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
It is, yes, yeah, and there's also no water for
the river type.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
That's just worked.

Speaker 8 (58:45):
It really worked. It was kind of cool in an
admittedly odd way, is what I thought. After all of
this is kind of like the comedy Airplane. You remember
that there was a magazine that once voted that movie
best Comedy because it packs so much humor, such a
variety of humor into and the article put it this way.
In doing so, it guarantees to offend someone at some
point in the two hours.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Surely you can't be serious, Yeah, I am sure exactly.

Speaker 8 (59:11):
Yesterday in Paris offended me a few minutes out of
four hours. The last hour was very good. All on
the same boat. Nadia Komenich, Serena Williams, Carl Lewis, Ralfie
on Nadal at the Olympic Flame. That was quite a photo.
And the finale with the balloon taking off where the
very first balloon ever took off from France back in

(59:32):
the seventeen hundreds, and then the French song right after that,
quite moving, full of meeting. The ending was a hit.
It wasn't the only one of the day. Very long show,
not all hits overall. Again, can't believe they pulled it off.
As for the Sunday schedule, Yes, US men's hoops versus Serbia.
Also Sunday US women's soccer versus Germany. US men swimming

(59:55):
tonight won Olympic gold in the four by one hundred
freestyle relay, beating Australia. As for late night Major League Baseball,
the Giants are going for a double header sweep. In
the opener against Colorado, they won four to one, and
the starting pitcher, Blake Snell, had fifteen strikeouts in six innings,
no decision. Giants are leading five to nothing over the Rockies.

(01:00:16):
Top of the ninth. In the nightcap, Nationals lead fourteen
to three at Saint Louis, bottom of the ninth. That's
still going on because of a rain delay at the start.
And finally, the game on Fox TV tonight was a
Yankee comeback win at Boston in ten innings, eleven to eight.
Aaron Judge thirty seventh homer back to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
You, Thank you very much, Steve Disager, Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports Saturday Sunday. Depending on where you are, er
towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios.
So college football it is inching closer. We talked a
lot of NFL in hour one, but our two were
switching gears to college because one we're getting closed. But

(01:00:53):
two Big Ten Media Days was this week, and obviously
it was the launch in the debut of the now
eighteen team Big Big Ten, adding Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA.
All four coaches spoke. All eighteen coaches spoke, including the
four new ones. But what caught everyone's attention, Lincoln Riley

(01:01:14):
had some interesting comments about the future of the Notre
Dame rivalry. One hundred years of the making Mary play
the sound.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
I would love to. I would love to.

Speaker 9 (01:01:25):
I know it means you know a lot to a
lot of people, and so the again, the purest in you,
no doubt. Now, if you get in a position where
you got to make a decision on what's best for
SC to help us win a national championship versus keeping
that shoot, then you got to look at it. I
mean and listen, we're not the first example of that.

(01:01:46):
Look all the way across the country, there's been a
lot of other teams sacrifice rivalry games. I'm not saying
that's what's going to happen, but you know, as we
get into this playoff structure and if it changes not
we get this new conference, like, we're gonna learn earn
some about this as we go and what the right
and the best track is, you know, the winning a
national championship.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
The back half of that way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
By the way, he did reference Alabama, who for a
year scheduled that high profile, not neutral site game, then
they'd play a couple duds, and then they'd play the
SEC schedule. Then they'd have the FCS game right before Auburn.
And the quote that caught a lot of people's attention,
Lincoln Riley adding they didn't schedule for the fans.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
They scheduled to win championships.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
J Mart.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Whether you want to go in on Lincoln Riley or
you want to go in on the state of college football?
What do you think of Lincoln Riley? Bab He didn't
say that they're canceling the Notre Dame rivalry, but he
doesn't seem eager to extend it either.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
The biggest problem is just, I mean, how many traditions
are we going to rip down amidst all of this
and Lincoln Riley and his long standing, incredibly deep ties
to USC and tradition and understanding. The biggest concern that
I have there is just like him wanting to end

(01:03:07):
it like you've been there for like five minutes. This thing,
he said, I know, it means a lot to a
lot of people. Yeah, it really does. It means a
lot to a lot of Notre Dame people, a lot
of USC people, a lot of college football traditionalists. I
don't understand, like this just seems like, are you really

(01:03:28):
gonna die on this hill? Like this one doesn't make
any sense to me. That's my biggest thing is just
why step into this and wade into this and sound
so like, let's just go ahead and urinate on every
tradition that is out there, not just that we left
the conference and all that kind of stuff, but we're

(01:03:50):
actually just going to take away this rivalry that has
been a part of college football for such a long
time for no real apparent reason.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
So that's kind of my takeaway as well, is first
of all, I think even if that's something, clearly the
question was asked because there has been probably some sort
of internal conversation that probably conversation got leaked to the media,
and that's why the media felt the need to ask one.
If you're Lincoln Riley, and maybe he's just completely unaware
of what people think about him and how he's perceived.

(01:04:19):
But this was the guy that a few months ago,
for people don't know, by the way, USC opens against
LSU that first Sunday Labor Day night, I'm excited about
that one. But the reports where Lincoln Riley and the
USC tried to get that game canceled and LSU basically
said no way, no, how So you have that, you
have the perception that his teams are soft, that he's soft,
that he's afraid of the SEC. When he decided to

(01:04:40):
leave Oklahoma. So I bring it up because even if
those conversations are happening, I don't like, just lie. If
I was like a rally, just lie, just just be like, listen,
you know, we're evaluating everything, but as of right now,
you know, we're focused on twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,
excuse me, and or notre Damn's other schedu we look
forward to continuing with the rivalry.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Next question.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
So he did himself no favors, but Jason is crazy
because you and I are on the same page a
lot tonight. That was kind of my biggest takeaway too,
is that, listen, I understand that we're moving to this
new world. Like it or not, We're full speed ahead.
College football is essentially the minor league of the NFL. Now,
if it was at any point amateurism, that's dead.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
This is a minor league. It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
But I also think, man, we're moving so far, so fast,
and so much of what we love about college football
I think is really kind of a jeopardy. And it's
kind of funny because one of the other questions that
not only Lincoln Riley got asked, but you know, Dan
Lanning was asked about a few guys where I think
Dan Lanning was asked about it. Ryan Day was asked
about it. Whatever of the idea of playing seventeen games,

(01:05:50):
and remember those conference champions get a first round by
in the College Football Playoff, And no coach explicitly said it,
but there was talk of, like, you know, if you've
clinch that spot in the conference championship, do you rest
players in the final week of the season. Like if
you're Ohio State and you're undefeated and you're going to
the you know you're going to the College Football Playoff

(01:06:10):
either way, but maybe you're a little bit banged up.
Do you rest a few guys for Michigan in the
final game of the season. So that's just another example,
and it just speaks to what you said, is like
we are getting so far away from what made college
sports college sports, college football, college football, and the fact
that this is even being discussed, it's just sad, man,

(01:06:30):
And I know nothing last forever, and I know that
as as Lincoln Riley did say, a lot of rivalries
and traditions have gone to the wayside, But like I'm sorry, man,
that means a lot to a lot of people. That's
a game that we have all watched. We all remember
the Bush push, we all remember all these big moments
in that rivalry, and it's a game that we all
kind of circle on the calendar. It's just such a

(01:06:51):
bummer that that's where we are and that again the
fans are the ones who suffered Jason.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Yeah, and I think that that's going to continue to be, Like,
we're going to get some really good things out of
this when it comes to an expanded playoff and more
games at least, in my opinion, a lot more games
that have stakes as a result, But we're also going
to have casualties in order to get some of this good,
we're going to get some of the bad. We are
going to see the end of stuff. And you get
to that spot again, we've talked about it before where

(01:07:19):
Ohio State Michigan used to kind of be de facto
in and now it's likely more often than not going
to be a scenario where both of them are getting
in and so it doesn't have the same deal. This
isn't a conference matchup, but USC Notre Dame. I mean,
it's when is USC playing Notre Dame not going to
be a good win? For USC if they win it.
I mean it's been a while. There was a time

(01:07:41):
when maybe it wasn't as impressive when they had some
down years, but pretty much throughout the Brian Kelly years,
and it looks like Freeman is going to continue that
these are going to be good wins. Like, I know,
you're in a good conference, but play the game like
it's not going to hurt you. But I guess if
you look at it, if you're in a twelve team playoff,

(01:08:02):
maybe you don't need that. Maybe you don't need that anymore.
Maybe you can make your schedule a little bit easier
because it's easier to qualify in the first place. I
just kind of look at all of it and just
say I think that you talk about the speed at
which everything is changing. I think there are some things
that need to change relatively quickly because we are going
to a new system and we have some conferences. But

(01:08:23):
then there's some other stuff that's we don't have to
get rid of everything today, yep, Like we can work
towards this and see what's gonna work and what needs
to change, what needs to be altered. But it just
seems like everything is trying to happen at the exact
same time, and I'm not sure that's the best way

(01:08:43):
for this to work.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Yeah, I hate to use like the bigger picture of metaphorical,
you know, societal thing, but it's kind of how society
feels like it is like society is like, dude, we're
moving a million miles an hour, and I don't think
we fully understand the consequences of all the decisions that
are being made by the way, not comparing you know,
a football game to real world stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
That's going on. But I think people hopefully know where
I'm talking about Jason really quick.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Let's switch gears to another college football topic that certainly
made headlines on Friday, and it was the news that
a high profile player at Georgia has been arrested. A
wide receiver by the name of rah Ra Thomas was
arrested on Thursday night into Friday. He's facing multiple family
violence charges and was being He is being held in

(01:09:29):
Atlanta or excuse me, Athens Clark County Jail he was
previously I'll read. He was charged with cruelty to child children,
family violence, a second degree felony, two misdemeanor counts of battery,
family violence.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Here's the crazy part.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
He had previously been arrested and accused of felony false
imprisonment because you know, a similar situation. He was part
of a pre trial diversion program and the charges were
eventually dropped. I bring it up because Georgia has had
one issue after another after another.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
After you do you have a number, like I was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I didn't look it up, but I was curious what
the actual total number is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Now I don't have a number.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
What I can tell you is I believe there's been
five driving related instances this offseason. And by the way,
I'm not comparing speeding to a you know, felony basically
kick this offseason, just this offseason. There was a ton
last year. Well, and that's what I was gonna say.
A couple of things on that one. First of all,
one player was arrested for DUI we know. I mean,

(01:10:32):
you don't need me to tell you how serious that is.
And I there were two players that were charged with
reckless driving. The problem was one of them was a
senior captain who's a four year starter. Right, And so
that's just this offseason. But even if you want to say, okay,
speeding should have done it whatever. One, it's one of
your most experienced players, a guy that should know better.

(01:10:53):
And then two it obviously comes Jason Off. As you said,
quite a few arrests in the twenty two three off season,
and that doesn't include a tragic accident that took the
life of a staffer named Chandler Lacroix and one of
their players named Devin Willock. So you had a tragic
accident last year, multiple speeding arrests last year, multiple speeding

(01:11:16):
arrests this year. Now a player who had previously been
arrested is arrested again. He has been suspended in definitely
from the team. But Jaymartin, I'll tell you, man, I
know all these crimes aren't the same. I'm not comparing
speeding to what Robert Thomas was accused of. What I
am saying is this does not feel like just normal
kids being kids college football, and I think Kirby Smart

(01:11:38):
needs to be held a little bit more accountable than
he is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
So the number is twenty four. Wow, twenty four arrests
dating back to the start of last offseason. This is
the last couple of years they're working on it and
getting into me. Yeah, look, you remember the number, like

(01:12:01):
how Florida was talked about. Of course, I think the
difference is people kind of like Kirby Smart.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
That's thank you, That's really it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Because if this was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Give me a prime example, don't like Mancoln Riley Deon Sanders.
Imagine if this was deonce and I'm not trying.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
To we would be getting absolutely hammered from every corner everywhere.
But for some reason, Kirby Smart has this I don't
know what it is, this approachability factor, this likability factor,
and he conducts himself very well and as such, like

(01:12:48):
we don't talk about this anywhere near as much as
we should, like this is this is a cultural this
is cultural rot that's kind of happening at Georgia right now.
And it's not it's not something that can't be fixed.
But the question needs to be asked and is not
being asked, like what's the price of victory? Like at

(01:13:08):
what point are your guys gonna be held accountable for
things like this? Because yes, you mentioned again this is
a much more serious incident than most of the others.
But the conduct issues don't seem to be going away,
do they. And I'm not even saying they're escalating because
I don't think that that's I don't think there's a

(01:13:28):
through line between what was happening and then this incident.
For example, there's just too much stuff happening that doesn't
need to be happening. And eventually, if you're in a
position of authority, you actually you have to take accountability
for that. You actually have to step up and hold
people accountable, and you actually have to stand up and say, yep,

(01:13:49):
it's my responsibility. This guy's not gonna play. I don't
think that's gonna happen because Georgia wins too many football games,
and that is a pretty sad statement.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Yeah, and I'll just I'll wrap this pretty quick because
we gotta get back to Seger. But so I agree
with everything you said because the Kirby defenders, and I'll
give Georgia fans credit, the last couple instances I have
seen even Georgia fans say something has to change, but
the Kirby defenders will say he's done everything. Well, he
hasn't done everything, because as best as I can tell,

(01:14:20):
I haven't seen anybody miss playing time or significant playing time.
And I'm not the just throw everybody off the team.
You know, Nick Saban has that famous quote about you know,
giving kids second shanit whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Okay, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
But at the same time, you want to send a
message whoever it is now this kid Rajah Thomas, I
can't imagine second arrest that he ever plays again. Who knows,
We'll see whatever and definitely suspended. The reports don't look good.
But you want to send a message to your team,
like I said, you have you have a fourth year senior,
fourth year starter that got arrested for something that is
completely avoidable that everybody should know better at this point

(01:14:55):
because one of his own teammates literally died doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
And so I don't know what number is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
But if you want to make a point, take away
what is most important, which is playing time on the field.
Don't tell me about how many laps they run after practice.
Kirby Smart did say a media days that the players
now get fined through the collective. Only thing that did
take away playing time to say you're spending suspended X
number of games and don't make it one, don't make

(01:15:21):
it a half, make it an actual punishment, so.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
That maybe some of these players will actually pay attention.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
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Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
That's next Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, jasmartin broadcasting
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every week around this time, let's toss it over the
news desk to Sager, give us your extended update.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
My friend, I love that.

Speaker 8 (01:15:52):
Peyton Manning on the opening ceremonies broadcast made reference you know,
we've got an Olympic scandal here, another spygate. Oh, because
that is what it is. Canada's women's team, the defending
gold medallist in soccer, has been docked points, sending him
to last place in the standings for this tournament that
has started Sunday. It's Canada against France. But the head

(01:16:12):
coach of Canada women's soccer, Bev Priestman, was suspended for
a year for using drones to spy on opponents in
recent years, including on Monday when their worker got caught
by French police and it turned out they had spied
on that New Zealand practice. They're opening the opponent the
week before in France as well, But according to The

(01:16:33):
Globe and Mail, Canada's national paper, police retrieved footage of
the training session of New Zealand from the drone and
also got text messages from that worker and an assistant
coach with Canada, and that kind of opened things up.
Staff and contractors connected to the men's Canadian national team

(01:16:54):
have also filmed closed practices of competitors. According to TSN,
they used a drone to rector or at a US
practice in Florida five years ago. For example. A couple
years later, Honduras had to stop a training session in
Toronto because someone spotted a drone overhead. Some staff and contractors,
according to TSN in Canada, were told filming's part of

(01:17:15):
your job. You could lose your position with the soccer
federation if you don't go along with these demands, and
one source said, in a couple of scenarios, people have
been pushed. They've been told, hey, you got to give
one ten percent. This is part of your job. They
became sources for this investigative reporting this week, asking for
anonymity because they were afraid the Federation would retaliate against them.

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One of the sources said, among those many instances of
spying on your opponent was spying on Japan, their opening
opponent at the Tokyo Olympics in twenty twenty one. And
remember that was during COVID lockdowns where you couldn't go
into the city. They said, the source was a little
tricky for us at that time. There were more restricts,

(01:18:00):
but there were still ways to sneak out of the
hotel without people knowing. And as far as the actual
practice facilities, they were a bit more open over there
in some cases, so you could get behind some bushes
or behind fences or behind trees. That part wasn't complicated
because they didn't have these big mesh walls around the practice.
But a couple of years after the Tokyo Olympics, a

(01:18:21):
Canada Soccer contractor was scheduled to travel to Australia for
last year's Women's World Cup and was told their responsibilities
would include trying to secretly record the training sessions of
opposing teams, and when the contractor said no, I don't
agree to that, their trip was canceled and Canada Soccer
at a staff member fly in their place and do

(01:18:43):
the recording. And so they've reviewed text messages tsn UP
in Canada and they have correspondence of a women's coach
discussing secret filming of opponents training sessions head of games
two years ago against Costa Rica, against Trinidad, against Korea.
Keep in mind that the twenty twenty one Olympics, the

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semi final was Canada upsetting the US, and then Canada
won the gold medal for the first time right after that.
Both sources in the investigative reporting said there's a lot
to be learned from filming an opponent's practice.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Quote.

Speaker 8 (01:19:17):
You get to know their formations, their starting lineup, look
at who's taking a penalty kick, there's set pieces. Most
people see this as cheating, which it is. Some of
our coaches just see it as a competitive advantage and
justify it by saying everyone does it, which is also
not true. Not everyone cheats, and neither should we end quote.

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US women's soccer is going to be on the pitch
against Germany on Sunday. Each team won its opener in
the tournament three. I think Sophia Smith of the US
left in the first half Thursday with an apparent ankle injury. Meanwhile,
for US men's basketball, remember Kevin Durant missed all five exhibitions,
the US went five to zero. For what it's worth,
he did finally practice with Team USA about a week ago.

(01:19:58):
He'd been out for about two weeks with a strained calf,
so we'll see if and when he plays. The US
in their last exhibition Monday in London, won a close
one against Germany ninety two to eighty eight as Lebron
James scored the last eleven points for Team USA. And
remember before that was the narrow win against South Sudan
where Lebron had the driving layup the game winner with

(01:20:19):
eight seconds left. So Olympics jess getting started US men's
basketball and women's soccer tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Thank you very much, Steve di Seger. Appreciate all of
your help. This is Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tors Jason
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Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
Two hours are in the book.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
We got one hour left and there is quite a
bit to discuss. We'll revisit a busy Friday in the
NFL with those two major contracts sign and what's next
for Dak Prescott also we got to talk about a
crazy week in the media world, tnt SO in the NBA,
so much to discuss.

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What hour left?

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as well. Jmart Let's get back to probably the lead

(01:21:52):
stories of the week. Listen, you know it's that time there,
you know every time around this year there's always some
sort of contract disputes. Let me ask you this really quick,
Am I crazy or does it feel like more? And
let me set the tone here. We obviously saw two
on Jordan Love get extended on Friday, but dak is
looking for a new deal, Ceedee Lamb is looking for

(01:22:14):
a new deal. Brandon Ayyuk has put in a trade request.
Obviously we discussed that last week. Trent Williams is currently
holding out. Am I crazy or does it feel like
more guys than usual this year?

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
It does? You know, now that you say it, It
does seem like there have been more names in the
news that have been talking points surrounding contract disputes or
potential holdouts or just dissatisfaction or trade requests or all that.
I mean. I think that it's I don't know, like

(01:22:49):
I'd like to know exactly what it has been in
years past, but it does seem a little accelerated, and
I think that this might be a monkey see monkey
do so situation where if you watch it long enough
happening around you, you see all these other guys getting
paid You want to do the same thing, and if
it's working for them, then you're going to see more

(01:23:10):
and more of it. You're still not in a position
of the way you are in the NBA where guys are
commanding everything, but the NFL is trying to do as
much as they can. Seems like the players are trying
to exert as much power under a bad CBA and
a bad union deal as they can. And if it
works at your position for somebody else, then why wouldn't

(01:23:33):
you try it?

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
In most cases, yeah, I think everybody's a little bit different.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Obviously, you look at somebody like Trent Williams, he's obviously
older looking for you know, probably that final big paycheck,
and he's still one of the best players in the league.
You know, Tua was coming up at the end of
his rookie deal. Jordan Love obviously was is entering your
five as well. Let's get into those two. We talked
about it earlier. But Tua gets that four year, two

(01:24:00):
hundred and twelve million dollar deal fifty five million a year,
eighth most guaranteed money of all time one hundred and
sixty seven million. Jordan Love, on the other hand, four
year deal two hundred and twenty million for a crisp
even fifty five million a year. That is the most money,
tied with the most money in terms of annual salary

(01:24:23):
in the NFL, along with Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow.
Let me just ask you, let me ask you to
you like this, which team, if either, do you think
is more likely to end up regretting the deal that
they gave out.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
H I think it's Miami because I think we know
what Tua is. I think Tua is good but not great,
and there are more risks there. Now you've seen him
play more football, but you've also seen the injuries. You
know the size already, and you just kind of look

(01:24:58):
at that team, and you look at the AFC as
a whole, and you look even at that division. It's
a bear and it's not going to get easier, and
you're still waiting for TWA to be clutch in a
big moment. Now, that same critique can be applied to
a number of guys that we really like in the
NFL at the quarterback spot. But I think that it's

(01:25:20):
I think it's more likely that Green Bay doesn't risk
it because I think there's still there's still something left
to prove. But you couldn't have asked for too much
more from Jordan Love than he gave you in year one.
And you call it year one, but it's really year FOURD.
I think that again, and I mentioned this earlier. The
lasting takeaway from the Jordan Love scenario is these teams

(01:25:44):
just can't afford to draft rookies and not put them
on the field. Yeah. Really, quiz, you don't get the discount,
You don't get the opportunity to build around a guy
for the first few years because you just had to
commit so much money to him after one year of work.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Yeah, let's reset that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
I thought that was a very good point by you
earlier in the show, and for anybody who missed it,
make sure to go back and download the podcast. But
essentially what you said is this is that that Jordan
Love is obviously a very unique situation. He's a guy
that was drafted to replace Aaron Rodgers. We all know that,
and I think everybody in that Packers front office kind
of miscalculated probably how much Aaron Rodgers had left in

(01:26:24):
the tank. So all of a sudden he went back
to back MVPs. You're not going to get rid of
him that final year. He obviously got hurt, but he
didn't play very well. But Jordan Love a unique situation
where he didn't play significant snaps. He started one game
in his first three years, and as referenced the only
game that he started was the game that Aaron Rodgers

(01:26:45):
tested positive for COVID during that COVID season. And by
the way, I forgot the word in hour one, but
it was immunized, was the word that he used to
describe his vaccination status in the preseason.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
We don't have to relitigate that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
I don't really care whatever, but I bring it up
because that was the only that Jordan Love made in
his first three years. So Aaron Rodgers leaves prior to
last year. He's obviously with the New York Jets. I
thought you brought up a great point is that on
the one hand, Jordan Love got plenty of practice reps,
and certainly in the back half of the year, he
looked very comfortable, and he not only looked like a

(01:27:17):
very capable NFL starting quarterback, he looked like a guy
with a chance to be elite down the stretch. But
I or in the future, excuse me. I also thought
it was a great point though, that when you wait
four years to start a guy, if he delivers, then
you gotta pay him. And so the Packers, I don't
really think it's through fault of their own. Aaron Rodgers

(01:27:39):
just outplayed expectations during the twenty twenty and twenty twenty
one seasons. But at the same time it put the
Packers in a situation where you're basically going off a
half a year of good games and you gotta pay
Jordan Love, you know, you know, top top, top tier money.
I think the opposite is true as well, where if

(01:28:00):
he hadn't played well, you might have to move off
him a little bit quicker, or might be thinking about
moving him off a little bit quicker when maybe he's
maybe a little bit better than you think. So I
thought that was a great point by you, essentially basically
saying like, look, you know, it was a unique circumstance,
but basically by doing this, you're basically having to pay him,

(01:28:21):
you know, like Joe Burrows the started for four years
and is getting the same amount of money as opposed
to Jordan Love, who basically had one good half of
a season last year.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Yeah. I mean, ideally, what you want is what happened
with the Bengals when you didn't have to pay Jamar
Chase yet, you didn't have to pay Boyd yet, you
didn't have to pay Higgins Jet, you didn't have to
pay Burrow yet and you end up in the super Bowl,
Like that's the ideal scenario. You actually saw both sides,
because you saw the Rams that had broken the bank
and given up their future and given up all these

(01:28:50):
draft picks, and they came in and they cashed it
in barely because of that great drive with Stafford and
Cooper cup Or. We have a different discussion, but the
Bengals that that's what you want if you're the Chargers
with Justin Herbert for years, which is why I thought
you shouldn't have wagered and blown a year with Brandon Staley,
Like that's why you get rid of him last year

(01:29:11):
because you just squandered it again. Basically, you have a
buffer zone with a rookie quarterback where you really do
have a lot more just room to maneuver, and it
gets taken away. So, yes, I don't know what Jordan
Love is if he doesn't sit for a few years,
I don't know how much better he got. We're never

(01:29:32):
going to know. But what we do know, without without
a shadow of a doubt, is that he played for
one year and you just gave him two hundred million
dollars guaranteed. That is insanity, and maybe it's I'm not
saying I'm not saying that it doesn't pay off, but
boyd you you had to pay out real quick on

(01:29:55):
that thing, and now it may hamstring you somewhere else
Whereas if you'd been able to pay him, or if
you've been able to play him two years ago, we
would have known a lot more. And maybe you end
up saving yourself the money because you could still get
out from underneath it. Because the other problem with the
guarantee thing is that's over one hundred million dollars dead
cap hit if you let him go, like, you can't

(01:30:17):
just get rid of him. If let's say last year's
a fluke, he comes out, he's bad. This year, you're screwed.
It's not as easy as it looks.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
No doubt, And I think it's worth noting something I
referenced earlier is that everybody says, I mean, he was
unbelievable that second half of the year, and like, statistically
he was eighteen touchdowns one interception in the last eight
games of the year.

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
Okay, cool.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
The thing that's a little bit deceptive though, really probably
his three best games, and it's to his credit because
they were all against Marque opponents. They all came in
standalone games where everybody was watching. He had the big
win on Thanksgiving against the Detroit Lions, follows that up
the following Sunday with a home win Sunday night football

(01:30:59):
against the pack against for the Packers against the Chiefs
where everybody's watching, and then of course that win in
the playoffs against Dallas, where he was obviously phenomenal. But
what people forget in that back half of the year
where he was unbelievable. He also did have a loss
to the New York Giants, he had a home loss
to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He had a narrow home

(01:31:19):
win over Chicago in Week seventeen, And so it's not
saying he was bad in those games, but we kind
of saw him at his best in his standalone games.
And I think it's kind of creating just a lot
of hype going into this year.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
Let me just ask you really quick.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
I mean, obviously I know that it goes without saying,
we know what all of the conversational points going into
the season are, but it is interesting, you know, Detroit
is in kind of that kind of make or break
mode where again you now have paid Jared Goff. You
got a lot of young guys that are still on

(01:31:54):
rookie contracts for basically another year, maybe two, you know,
Penay Sewell, Amon Ross, Saint Brown. Their contracts kick in
here in a year or so. They've already signed extensions
and so the Lions are certainly in win now mode.
The Bears, we certainly believe will be improved with Caleb
Williams along with all the offensive talent that they've brought in.

(01:32:16):
So what do you expect from the Green Bay Packers
given that, I think the division, even though the Vikings
may take a half a step back, it is tough.
And obviously now you're not the kind of team that's
catching everybody by surprise. We know who you are. You
made the playoffs last year. Admittedly it was as a wildcard,
but you made the playoffs. Everybody knows you are. And
now there's that target square on the back of Jordan Love.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Yeah, I definitely think that part is important here. You're
not sneaking up on people anymore. They're taking you seriously.
They're going to be watching film to try and exploit
whatever it is that you do wrong. But look, you
have a coach that's now one with somebody not named
Aaron Rodgers. You have young receivers that really were coming

(01:33:00):
into their own and seem to have good chemistry with
your quarterback. You had a couple of guys that used
to be all pros that had been hurt for you
forever or just didn't seem to want to play, and
you seem to move on from that, your running back
situation changing. We're gonna have to see how that affects you.
But I do think they're gonna be good. I think

(01:33:22):
it's a good division, really good division. You mentioned Minnesota.
They're just unsettled at quarterback, and we're gonna have to
see what that actually shakes out. Like. There's gonna be
some rookie pains for the Bears. I'm not expecting them
to go win double digit games in year one, but
I guess they could. I don't see the Lions taking
a massive step back. So I think I think they're
one of your two teams to watch in that division,

(01:33:44):
just pretty much like they were last year, with an
improved Bears team and maybe maybe a middle of the
road Vikings team.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
It is an interesting thought. The Green Bay Packers, of course,
now have extended Jordan Love and the pressure is on
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Charles is mad and there's a lot to break down.

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(01:36:01):
court this week, and it's you know, everybody has talked
about it, but I still think it's worth us spending
a little time on here.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
And that is the.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Tumultuous end to the NBA on TNT era, which does
have one year left, but following this coming season, the
NBA will no longer be part of you know, no
longer to be broadcast on TNT. So they've had a
relationship for thirty plus years, and I know by now
everybody knows the story. But NBA basically had a chance

(01:36:34):
to renew with them. TNT had the opportunity. Amazon puts
in a bid, TNT has the opportunity to match, and
TNT waits till last second, but they do match. The
NBA claims that it's not enough and they are going
to go with Amazon. TNT beverspoted by saying we'll see
you in court because we plan on keeping the NBA.

(01:36:56):
With that said, it seems like at best it's going
to be illegal battle, but realistically probably the end of
the inside the NBA era on TNT and with it.
Charles Barkley actually put out a statement yesterday about the decision.
He said, clearly, the NBA has wanted to break us
up from the break up with us from the beginning.

(01:37:16):
I'm not sure TNT ever had a chance. TNT matched
the money, but the league knows Amazon and these tech
companies are the only ones willing to pay for the
rights when they double in the future. The NBA didn't
want to piss them off. It's a sad day when
owners and commissioners choose money over fans. It just sucks.
I just want to thank everyone who has been at
Turner for the last twenty four years. They are the

(01:37:38):
best people and the most talented, and they deserve better.
I also want to thank the NBA and its fans,
the best fans in sports. We're going to give you
everything we have next season. So Jason, obviously a lot
to peel back, But you know your perspective on what
was a busy week in the world of sports, broadcasting
and media.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Well, it's no good if you're a fan of the
NBA or just good television in general, because TNT is
top notch. The studio show has been the gold standard forever.
We've all talked about this, We've all known this for
a long long time. It's more entertaining than the games themselves.
More often than not, it's can't miss. It's on my DVR.

(01:38:22):
It has been for well over I don't know, since
DVRs are invented pretty early after that, I was making
sure I was getting it weekly. Even if I can
watch it live, I would watch it the next day.
And TNT seems, or just Turner in general, seems synonymous
with the NBA, dating back to the Atlanta Hawks, but

(01:38:42):
also just NBA covers on TBS that then became TNT,
and just the idea of Ernie Johnson's voice not being
part of leading you into or out of an NBA
night is just unthinkable to me. Now, the one name
that doesn't get talked about enough. So we've talked about

(01:39:05):
what Barkley has had to say, and we've talked about
the contract, and we're suing you and all of these things.
One thing that's funny to me is that David zaz
laugh And I'm gonna mention his name because he's doing
everything he can, it seems like, to kill off his
entire company, selling it off, making horrible decisions in a
myriad of different media ways, not just with TNC, but

(01:39:28):
with his gaming industry is a complete dumpster fire, an
absolute disaster. They released a game back in January that
lost them two hundred million dollars. Wow, So I mean
they are just dropping money, this is like a video game. Yes,
they're making horrible decisions, and it seems like they're almost
doing it intentionally, like he's trying to bankrupt the company,

(01:39:48):
to sell it off or something. But David zaz laugh.
According to a couple of things that I read actually
went to the table and went to Netflix or went
to Amazon. Rather, Hey, get involved in this that way
that we can kind of move some of our burden
onto you, shoulder some of it off, and you can
become a new partner. And it turns out they're going

(01:40:10):
to be the new partner and you're out entirely. I
don't know what happens with the lawsuit, but I'm pretty
sure I know how it end. I don't know all
the intricacies of it and where there's validity and where
there's not. I do know that David Zaslav is a
terrible CEO, that Max has been really really underperforming as
a streaming service for a while. That's why they're changing

(01:40:33):
things up and now doing a bundle subscription with a
couple of things that I have nothing to do with
their company, to ad free and ad plans and all
this that we're seeing across streaming things haven't been quite
as good as expected. And then you look at Turner Networks,
you lose the braves. You've got National Baseball, but I
don't think it's the same, and I actually don't think

(01:40:53):
that it's helped the ratings. I'd have to look at
it to see the NHL was not a gamble that
is paid off. They've just it's made a lot of
really bad decisions, and then they come to this and
they think that they're just going to get grandfathered in.
That's just not how it's gonna work. You're now going
to pay big time money because once you involve somebody
like Amazon, they don't have a bottom to their pockets.

(01:41:17):
They can give whatever, they can always outbid you if
they had to, and it just it seems like this
was inevitable because the leadership of WBD is just a
dumpster fire.

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
I tell you what, there's a lot to react to there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
I want to go ahead and do that in just
one moment, but I'll tell you what before we get
to the back half of this conversation, final time, this evening,
let's go ahead toss it over the news desk to saga.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
The floor is yours, my friend.

Speaker 8 (01:41:46):
Coming up Sunday, US men's basketball starts It's Olympic Tournament
facing Serbia. Canada men's basketball today defeated Greece eighty six
seventy nine despite thirty four points from Janisan Tenakumpo. He
was eleven of seventeen shooting from the floor. The rest
of his team was twelve of forty two. Canada won
at RJ Barrett twenty three points, Shay Gilgis Alexander twenty

(01:42:07):
one point, seven assists. Host France beat Brazil seventy eight
sixty six, victor Wembin Yama nineteen points. He also had
nine rebounds, four steals, three blocks. Teammate Nicholas Batoum nineteen points.
Australia won its opener over Spain ninety two to eighty,
Patty Mills nineteen points, Josh Giddy was seventeen, and Germany
dominated Japan ninety seven seventy seven. Dennis Shrud twelve assists,

(01:42:29):
won turnover Franz Wagner twenty two points in the win.
Rui Hachimura for Japan in the loss twenty points, but
he was four of nineteen shooting. The women's basketball Olympic
Tournament starts for the US on Monday against Japan. Canada's
women's soccer coach Bev Priestman was suspended for a year
for using drones to spy on opponent practices in recent years,

(01:42:49):
including twice this past week in France. Sunday, US women's
soccer faces Germany. US men's soccer won four to one
over New Zealand. Ukraine scored in the ninety eight minute,
and it shorthanded to win to one over Morocco. The
US tennis team of Coco Golf and Jessica Bagula won
a first round match today, as did Spain's men's doubles

(01:43:09):
team Rafael Nadal and Carlos Alcarez. Alcarez won his singles
match easily and Nadal is scheduled for a singles match
on Sunday. Naomi Osaka lost her first rounder in singles
to Angelie Kerber, also a former number one. Katie Ladeki
won bronze in the four hundred meter freestyle. She'll be
swimming in the fifteen hundred meters on Tuesday for the US.

(01:43:30):
The USA men's swimming team won Olympic gold tonight in
the four by one hundred freestyle relay, beating Australia. So
Caleb Tressol now has eight career gold medals. US women's
water polo won its opener against Greece fifteen to six.
US men's volleyball took its opener sweeping Argentina. In Major
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nine to four at Baltimore. Atlanta ended a six game
losing streak with a four to nothing win at the
Mets Braves at three solo homers Marcelo Zuna with his thirtieth.
The Dodger Shoeo'tani hit his thirty second, but La blew
a five to nothing lead and lost at Houston seven
to six, game winning solo homer bottom of the ninth
from Alex Bregman. La first baseman Freddie Freeman is out

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this weekend due to a family matter. Seattle sent the
White Sox to a thirteenth straight loss, six to three.
The Yankees came back for a ten inning win at
Boston eleven to eight. Aaron Judge with his thirty seventh homer.
Kenley Jansen of the Red Sox blew the save in
the top of the ninth. Washington had the late game
at Saint Louis. There was a rain delay at the
start fourteen to three Nationals. The final. San Francisco swept

(01:44:33):
a doubleheader from Colorado. In the opener, blake'snew the starting pitcher,
didn't get a decision, but he struck out fifteen in
six innings of work. In fact, to get over eighty
percent of your outs via strikeout. That is the highest
percentage by any pitcher in any game in the history
of Major League Baseball minimum six innings. Pitched back to you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
Thank you very much, Steve de Sager, have a great evening.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Saga will be back tomorrow with Mark Willard and the
Gang and Ernie Spaniard and Chris playing Fox Sports Radio
erra Towards Jason Martin. We are taking you up till
two a m. Eastern time. Bernie Fratto of The Bernie
Fratto Show follows us. So before we got to to Sager,
we were talking about the decision from the NBA to
go with Amazon as opposed to TNT claims that they

(01:45:22):
matched Amazon's offer. Obviously, the framework said that basically if
TNT matched, they would obviously be able to keep their
TV package. It looks like the NBA disagrees. Before we
got to Sager, Jason mentioned David Saslov, who runs Warner
Brothers and all the things that he's done. Jason, one

(01:45:44):
thing you didn't mention, which I think is worth noting.
This was the guy that when these negotiations really started
to ramp up. Whatever it was eighteen months ago, a
year ago, whatever it was. He said, quote, we don't
have to have the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
Yeah, again, that's like I've said, Like, you're right. I
didn't mention it, but just added to the list. Remember,
I told you, if I didn't know better, I'd think
he was trying to bankrupt the company. That's another kind
of thing. They'll end up bankrupting the company saying something
like that and offending a partner of yours for over
three decades.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
Yeah, that was from November twenty twenty two, so when
the negotiations were first beginning. But no, I mean, it's
just it's such a disaster. And listen, I think all
of it can be true. I think Turner misplayed their hand.
I don't think Zaslov based on a lot of stuff
that I didn't even know, uh really knows what he's doing.
And certainly, listen, I think even if I think maybe

(01:46:38):
in November twenty twenty two, maybe he thought he had
a little bit more leverage than he did, but you
don't say that in public during even at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
Stages of the negotiation.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
I also do think that it's pretty clear that the
NBA obviously wants to partner with tech companies for the
reason that Charles Barkley mentioned, which is that they basically
have unlimited money. And it's not really about this kind.
It's about whatever the next one is and being able
to make sure that hey, you know, the next one
is the one where the the you know, Turners and

(01:47:09):
who knows, maybe an NBC, maybe a Disney aren't going
to be able.

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
To match really quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
What did you think of Charles Barkley basically saying like,
after this this is separate than the actual, you know,
the statement that he put out. He did an interview
and he basically said, yeah, I've had conversations with all
of the major media outlets. I mean, I think it
speaks to something that you and I discussed a few
weeks ago. He was on Turner I guess it would

(01:47:35):
have been during the Western Conference finals and said during
a b or you know, obviously in inside the NBA
he said something to the effect of next year will
be my last year broadcasting basketball. I don't think either
of you, either of us, really brought too much into it,
but it sounds like Charles Barkley has at minimum had
a couple of conversations with the soon to be partners

(01:47:59):
of the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
I think that he may have been sincere when he
said it. I also didn't think it was going to
mean anything, and it doesn't appear to I don't make
anything of it other than he's going to continue to
work because he's very sought after and he's proven. He's
actually proven. Even though I think the unit is what
really makes it work. I think that Ernie is key.

(01:48:23):
I think Ernie is a really just critical part of
just making sure all the other personalities fit together in
that room. But I also think Kenny and Charles have
been together for such a long time and I would
hate to kind of see that breakup. You added shack
to it, but you really didn't even have to do that,
because it was fine when it was just the three

(01:48:45):
of them. Barkley by himself. We've seen Barkley do the golf,
We've seen him do. I think he stepped in and
done NHL some. I mean, he's just a good personality generally.
But the show is what's like true gold. And you
look at Amazon and we talked to it, and you
mentioned there's no end to the money. Here's the reason why.

(01:49:08):
I imagine most people probably have figured this out by now,
but I think I've talked about it as related to
Netflix making the big deal for WWE to put on raw.
With all the streaming services, you have to make your
standout from the pack. And it can't just be I've
got stranger Things, because that's gonna get somebody's money for

(01:49:29):
all of about a month and that's it. And we
are not living in a society anymore where people are
going to carry all these streaming services in their home
all the time. You're gonna pick it. You're gonna get
max in the fall, when the Penguin starts, or when
House of the Dragon is back, then you're gonna get
rid of that, and you're gonna get paramount when they
have something, or you're gonna have Hulu. When only Murders

(01:49:52):
in the Building is back and the Bear is doing
its season, it's not gonna be the same. So sports
is the most fool proof method to keep people's money
for longer, because if you have an NBA deal in
your Amazon, think about how long the NBA season is, folks.
If you're an NBA fan and you want to watch
that content. Then Amazon's going to be near the top

(01:50:15):
of your streaming list for almost half of every year.
And you look at WWE, that's fifty two weeks a
year with no repeats that they're going to have if
you want to see raw, which is the primary driver
of pro wrestling television since nineteen ninety eight, really is

(01:50:36):
when it really took off. You get that you have
to have Netflix in order to have that. So that's
what it is. Like I would pay too if I
was one of the even Apple, you know, getting in
on the baseball, but to a to a lesser degree,
this is going to happen in a bigger and bigger way.
Networks are either going to have to pony up insane

(01:50:56):
money or all of this is going to these streaming
services because this is the one way you can differentiate
yourself long term and keep people's money for a lot
longer time because the series method or the exclusive movie
method just doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
No, and it just listen, I mean that is what
you know. That is what the saying is right now,
is that you know sports is the only thing. As
you said, that's full proof. I'll be curious what happens because,
like you said, Obviously, Chuck and Check and Kenny are
free agents. I think they all want to work. They're
all paid handsomely. They'll all have a place to work. Ernie,

(01:51:33):
it sounds like will probably be staying at Turner. They obviously,
as you reference, still have MLB coverage. They actually have
some college football, including one of the playoff games that
they've licensed from ESPN, So it'll be interesting. But you know,
I think it goes out saying we talked earlier about
Lincoln Riley, you know, basically alluding to the fact that

(01:51:53):
the USC game USC Notre Dame rivalry could be canceled
in the future. And I think it just speaks to
we discussed at that point how so many things are
going by the wayside, and the fans are the ones
that suffer. And yeah, and all I would really add
here is that Turner losing the NBA and breaking up

(01:52:16):
this group, the fans are the ones that suffer. I mean,
all these guys are gonna make good money even if
they're not working together.

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
The games will go on.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Jason, I don't know if you have anything else to
add beyond that, but the fans are the ones who
suffer because obviously this was something, to your point, that
made the NBA, the NBA something that kind of even
exceeded the games themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:52:34):
Sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
Yeah, and I still want to know what NBA TV
looks like at the end of this. I've made that
point before, but almost all the people that work on
that network are Turner employees that do all the shows there.
You're Isaiah Thomas's, you're Dennis Scott's, you're Steve Smith, like
all those guys through the years have been Turner guys

(01:52:56):
that have been gone, and they've been on all the
TNT stuff. The NBA TV stuff has been the same thing.
Kannas Parker, the games that are being broadcast, the Chris Webers,
all those guys have been a part of that. How
does that all pan out? Like what? I don't know
where that factor's in, but I'm curious to see what
exactly happens to NBA TV.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
It'll be interesting, It'll be interesting, but obviously, uh, Turner
and inside the NBA will be no more after this year.
Fox Sports Radio Aeron Torris, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting
live from the Tireck dot Com studios. We'll come back
one segment left and if you haven't heard what Jim
Harbaugh said on the day of training camp beginning, Well,

(01:53:37):
you better stick around because you won't believe it, or
maybe the case of Jim Harball, you will.

Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Torris, Jason Martin
broadcasting live from the Tirack dot Com studios. We are
taking you up till the top of the hour. Bernie
Fratto of The Bernie Frado Show will follow us. You know,
Bernie's got the goods on.

Speaker 4 (01:54:00):
Has been a very.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Busy week in sports, a lot of NFL, the Olympics
tipping off and kicking off in the last twenty four
or so hours. And it ain't slowing down from here,
Jay Martin, It's only gonna get busier and more fun.

Speaker 4 (01:54:15):
And can't wait to keep it going. So I mentioned
that it is, you know, we're getting to be that
time with football.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Training camps are opening, teams are reporting, and certainly a
team with plenty of intrigue is of course, the Los
Angeles Chargers haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
Been good in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Justin Herbert were waiting, is it finally the year? And
he finally has some help? And when I say help,
I don't mean a wide receiver and offensive tackle, though
they did take a tackle in the first round. I'm,
of course talking about a competent head coach. Baby, that's right,
because after Anthony Lynn and more importantly Brandon Staley the
last couple of years, Jim Harbaugh is in town. Training

(01:54:57):
camp opened this week and Jim Harball was asked about
returning to the NFL and responded in a way that
only Jim Harbaugh could.

Speaker 10 (01:55:06):
Feels like Beer's day. You know, it feels like being born.
It was like coming out of the womb. You know,
it's like you're in there and it's comfortable and it's safe,
and and now you're out.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
You're born. The lights are on, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:55:21):
It's bright, chaos, people look people looking at your people,
people talking at you, and just feels good to you know,
have it happen.

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
Uh, that was cool, world man.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
You know what, Mary Mac play it one more time.
I love that so much, Goad.

Speaker 10 (01:55:37):
Just the way it feels. I mean, it feels like
Beer's day. You know, it feels like being born. It
was like coming out of the womb. You know, it's
like you're in there and it's comfortable and it's safe.
And uh, and now you're out, you're born.

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
The lights are on.

Speaker 10 (01:55:53):
You know, it's bright, chaos, people look people looking at your, people,
people talking at you, and just feels good to you know.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
Have it happened? All right? Need a petition right now
to rename the Big House the womb.

Speaker 4 (01:56:08):
Well he's not at the Big House anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
Right, he came out of the womb.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Oh, I see what you're saying. I don't know, I
I I don't know. I just had a huge mile
on my face listening to it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:20):
How are you born twice?

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
Well, you're reborn.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
It's like coming out of the womb. I guess you're
only born once. But he feels reborn. He feels like
he's now come out of the womb because it's bright,
lights are on, people are looking at you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Because definitely people were not paying attention to Michigan Jamar.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Do you think he comes up with this stuff beforehand?
Do you think this is totally ad libbed off top
of his head?

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
No, I do think it's genuine, Like it doesn't seem contrived.
It's a little wacky, it's a little corny, it's a
little pleated khakis. It fits Harball like it it's a
very Harball like thing to say. You're still gonna kind
of mock it or say something about it, But like, genuinely,
I think it's all in good spirits. I think he's

(01:57:06):
super excited to be back. He's wanted to be back
for a long time. Things have worked out real well
for him the last few years. Gets a national championship
university hadn't seen that in a while, really got on
top of Ohio State for a few years. Then he
goes right back to the NFL and he goes straight
to Justin Herbert Like things are going pretty good for him.
So I do think he probably does feel, you know,

(01:57:29):
really good, and he's sort of reacting. He's reacting a
little excited, like he's talking about New Year's Day and
all these other kinds of things. It's like he just
turned sixteen, got his driver's license, he just got access
to some stuff. Like some things have happened for him.
He just opened up a Red Rider BB gun for Christmas,
like very much. He is living it up. He is

(01:57:53):
living his best Jim Harball life.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
Let me say this is that I'm so glad that
he actually won, you know, towards the end at Michigan,
and let me explain why is because like it was,
you know, he had that moment in time. He comes
back to college, He's doing all the quirky stuff. He's
you know, climbing up trees, he's Devin's sleepovers at recruits house,

(01:58:19):
and it was I believe, genuinely him and he was
genuinely being his authentic self. But then he was started losing,
not losing, but he wasn't winning at the level that
justified the quirky behavior. And it went from quirky weird
guy to quirky weird guy who's not winning, So now
he just looks like an idiot. So I love that
he won so he can get back to being in

(01:58:41):
true to his true self, back to say exactly how
it feels, and back to saying stuff like this Jmart.
Where that was like a two three year period where
people were like, we don't really want to hear the
quirky stuff because you're getting your butt kicked by Ohouse.
Stayed every year, just focus on beating them. Had success
at Michigan, closed it out, and now he's back in
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
Yeah, I mean I think there's something to do that.
I do think that it's now like eccentric and kind
of like, oh yeah, he's just kind of a fun
he's a fun guy to have around. But like three
years ago, it's like, shut up, just go away. I
don't need to see or hear you take another shot
at the SEC until you actually do something. You're right,

(01:59:19):
and we'll forget about the whole suspension and all of
the things that were happening at Michigan last year. But
he did win. He won a national championship, and now
he goes to the NFL fresh off of that. It's
been a good twenty twenty four for Jim Harball. Maybe
this might be the peak of it. We don't know.

(01:59:42):
They're actually gonna have to go play football and win
games there, and that's not a thing the Chargers have
done a whole lot. But look at this is hardball
the way that you do want. I agree with you.
It is a lot more fun to have him this way.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Don't disagree, and we will see if the winds start
coming good news for him. It really got some breaks
with schedule. How about this for an opening Raiders at
home at Panthers, at Steelers, your Broncos in Week five,
Cardinals and Saints as well, early in the schedule, so
they could get off to a pretty hot start.

Speaker 4 (02:00:14):
But I'll tell you what, Jason, we got to get
out of here.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
Well.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
I thank the crew ian producing the show, Mary Mack
on the board, De Sager.

Speaker 4 (02:00:20):
From my partner Jason Martin, I'm here, Torres.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
Coming up next Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show.
Bernie's got all sorts of good stuff on a busy
week in the NFL, the NBA, Olympics and more. Make
sure to download the podcast That's All for tonight's show.
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