Ryan Hollins & Mike Harmon talk USMNT, Olympic Storylines, NFL HOF Game & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey Grannys, and welcome in another beautiful Fox Sports Sunday.
Fox Sports Radio. The world is our oyster once again,
as the Olympics continue full slate of Major League Baseball
Hall of Fame games. Now in the books, we saw
the kickoff rule. I may or may not have said
something on the show with Jason Smith that if isolated,

(00:25):
could have people coming from my head. Welcome in. I'm
Mike Carbon alongside my guy Ryan Hollins. Ten years in
the NBA working with the Houston Rockets. You see him
depicted fictionally on clip, you see him in reality Master
Thespian and Uncut Gems, and you hear him on the
Opinionated Seven Footers podcast. It's Ryan Hollins. What's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Ryan? What's up? How you doing?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Man?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Another day in Paradise. As we get going, we've got
our team fully assembled. We are either Voltron or the Avengers,
depending on which path you want to take there. So
we've got that role in a full slate. As you
said of the Olympic activity is already underway, got cycling
and water polo, archery. We got a guy that was

(01:10):
straight out of Central Casting in Brady Ellison. I was
commenting to Brianna and Chris as were coming on. They
took away some of the magic right away because they
showed the camera on the ground as it's tracking around
the guys to get all those great three sixty angles.
Ryan and I don't know. I know, I live in

(01:30):
Hollywood and I've seen the tours and I've seen some
of them behind the scenes. Sometimes I just need the magic.
I don't need to see the little railroad track unless
there's actually a little chucchu going.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Around straight to it. Ben, No, I just stand. I
get it.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
So yeah, So there's pre piece one. The other is
we're watching the golf final, right, and Chris Praphatt was
doing some updates and he's found the matchup. So I'm
excited here. But it reminds me of a lot say
youth sports. Right, you play soccer or maybe you know
you're in basketball leagues and you've traveled to tournaments, and

(02:09):
then you end up playing the team from down the street,
even though you're hundreds of miles away from where you
should be. Like for my daughter's squad, they've had that
happen a couple of times. Hey, who are you playing
in the playoffs. Oh yeah, we're in Virginia, but we're
gonna play a team, another team from southern California. Here,
we've got Shaffley and Ram battling it out. It's like
we couldn't have done the state side, couldn't have just

(02:31):
finished it. Matsiyama now has entered the party, as has Fleetwoods.
You've got a veritable battle royale at the top of
the board. But it's that fun time, right. Metal season
is upon us final day of the swimming events, and
certainly a lot of eyes and a lot of mouths
and hot take nonsense. Floating back to the men's and

(02:54):
women's basketball squads. We've got plenty on the men's side
to get to as we roll through the day. Ryan,
But you know one thing, you know, you and I
went back and forth with a little bit in the
planning structure, is the difficulty of trying to reconcile if
you finish second in an event, right, the lifetime of training,

(03:18):
all the things you skipped out on, all the parties,
all the maybe what everybody else would say is a cheat,
you could call a cheap meal. As an athlete, everybody
else just calls Tuesday. You know, all of those kind
of things that you skip out on and then you
have margins of victory where it's literally, I don't know,
the tip of your finger to the wrist separates you

(03:41):
from gold and silver and maybe the riches that come
from it.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, and here's the thing, you know, all second places
are not created equal. You know. For some people they've
overchieved it was a surprise. Hey, maybe one of the
countries medals, you know, and it's a lifetime achievement. And
when you go to the Olympics and you underachieve, that's

(04:09):
what sits with you. That's what you never forget when
there's incentive for you to be a champion, for you
to win gold. And it's not that, hey, you should
ever shrug or hang your head, but when you have
four years of gold expectation, that's something to live with.
And you know, Mike, I don't know if I told
you this my opinion. Maybe it's unpopular, maybe some people

(04:32):
don't get it, maybe I just don't understand the logistics.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
But at the Ryan Hollins for those that are going
to disagree at smallendb Yeah, and I just had to
make sure that we a you're right. We let people
start clicking clocking on the keyboards, So go ahead.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I know it takes a lot to make it happen,
and I don't know what today's technology why we wouldn't
be able to. I think the Olympics should be every
two years. I don't like that in four years, someone
could literally go out of their prime. These athletes compete
every summer, every year in their sport, why not every

(05:06):
two years. We enjoy it. It brings people together. It
could be amazing experience. But when you take that long
to compete, you just miss out on so much. I
think it could be really something special.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, when when we talk about hosting and event planning,
this this is where the curiosity always comes bidding processes
and I'm not going to go down the well as
it were related to what we've had in FIFA and others,
you know, buying for games. Certainly the Olympics has had
some stay ins through the years, right in terms of

(05:39):
choices and decision processes. And you know, you raise your
hand going how did this happen? Why did this happen?
Et cetera. But yeah, whenever you're talking about an event
that large, the machine kind of rolls forward. Right, We've
got plenty of global cities, infrastructure build in many of them,

(06:02):
and for the opportunity to bring in the tourism and
the dollars that this is where we start getting into
I think some of the fuzzy math in terms of
cities and hosting because we do this with all other
big major events in the US. Right, it's like, all right,
does this really work? Or when a team's holding out
saying all right, we're gonna leave unless you build us

(06:22):
a new stadium. Sometimes it gets really fuzzy on the
math because you can always hide it, hide some of
the profits in your subsidiaries and ancillary holding companies and stuff.
So that is always a curiosity. But I think I
agree with you to the point of, hey, give the
athletes more opportunity to get back up on the metal stand,

(06:43):
more opportunity for this machine to keep going for the
stars because you see this and it's a larger thread
throughout the show is mean star power wins. Look at
the ratings for the Olympics led by the women in
this time. We're all talking about legends and legacies and
history and all of those things, and time after time
at least for this Olympic run. We're talking about Simone Biles,

(07:07):
We're talking about Katie Ldecki, We're talking about Hikari Richardson
and what she was going to do right, and then
Taylor Swift even did a commercial that she voiced on
behalf of that trio in terms of legacy and showing
who you are and all those things. So certainly, whenever
you can push this out and I haven't done the

(07:28):
white paper study on it, but I think I agree
in principle, then it just becomes logistically pulling it all
off individual sport by individual sport.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, and again, like you brought up the money, I know,
the money or the planning that goes to it, and
like I said, with our technology, I think we can
do it. But again I understand, you know, part of
the juice is, wow, they took four years of training
for it. But it's like for the track as the
main sport, they go to the World Games, they crown
a world champ, you know, when it's not an Olympic year,

(08:05):
and why not give them more to compete for? Why
not raise the dollars? You know, we see the NBA
adding in the n season tournament. We see the NFL
what knock Then the NFL added a game and knocked
off a preseason game out We're.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
At seventeen and eventually eighteen is coming.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
It's so so when it comes out of money, when
it comes out of rights, when it comes down to
the visuals, you know, get to it, and I know
everyone's got to agree to it, or there was I'm
sure with the Olympics, there was a some type of
a ritual or the origin of the games that were
behind it. But at the end of the day, people
are getting what they want, you know, and why are

(08:43):
we sticking to certain values that may not go And
I'm sure there's Olympic purists that are probably yelling at
me and want to bark bite my head off. But
I think just every two years would be something special.
And I think the frustration is for some of these
athletes that they're not just athletes, are pros that playing
the Olympics, right with some of the NBA guys, they

(09:03):
are just olympe hands two years of competing, they would
be able to hold their salary or like we talked about,
someone who takes that second place or or bronze when
they were supposed to go gold and they have one event. See,
everybody doesn't get the you know, and every event's not
a cook equal you know, Michael Phelps. Would Phelps walk
away with like eight gold medal or something crazy? Like

(09:25):
other sports, you got one event, one shot, that's like
that's it or you go home. So you know, if
you end up, you know, losing, Hey, USA basketball, they
get bronze or they get silver, it is an absolute disappointment.
And they got one shot at it. They don't have
eight different chances to go and get a gold medal.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, I want to get back into the second, second place,
third place kind of thing. From a little different perspective.
You brought up the NBA and NFL as to what
they're changing. Remember money moves the world, right and what
we talk about the new NBA deal eleven years seventy
six billion dollars. Live sports is still the winner and

(10:06):
all programming. And I think maybe the ratings of this
and it's a unique situation again owing to the fact
that you have some of these women, female athletes that
are going for history, legacy all of that. You know,
we like winners and in this case, they have you know,
for us ratings purposes, you know, whenever we're heavily favored

(10:27):
to win something, guess what we show up? Isn't that
the running joke with laker Land and everything else, Chris Purfett,
you wanted to chime in on the topic.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Here, Yeah, just on how close this can all be
to your points here, I was just watching the the
the men's archery for the gold medal match. We had
Brady Ellison the American in their central casting.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, and look like a mountain man straight out of
one of those survival videos.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
So him and his South Korean competitor went to a
sudden death one shot closest to the center what's officially
label to shoot off, and he takes home silver by
a because he was just away. So this was the
final one. He was sixty one point two millimeters from
the center of the target, his opponent fifty five point eight,
So he lost by just a little bit over five

(11:15):
millimeters less than point two inches. That's that's how close
you can be in a lot of these matches, as
the Americans, where it's like you're that close to gold,
you're that close to gold. I don't even I don't
even think anyone in the track and field yesterday who
ended up finishing second to Feenke Bowl or to Alfred's

(11:36):
from Saint Lucian's can claim that they were only five
millimeters away.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
But that's just it right. We're talking about margin of
victory because that's one of the other points I think
on the larger scale to make about this right, talking
about expectations, but also down in distance to use a
little football analogy. We'll continue with this one because it
is a lifetime of training at the Ryan Hollins at
Chris per Fet at Swollen Dome. If you want to

(12:02):
jump in with us on this conversation, you know, being
finishing second place with everything that you do, even just
meddling in general. For me, you got to the metal stand.
I've got a website that I'm building talking about the
arguments that we have some of these inane, hot take
nonsense things in sports, pop culture and ranking everything. That's

(12:25):
what we're gonna do. We're gonna rank stuff, Ryan, but
the idea being that if you hit the metal stand,
then you've accomplished something pretty great. But in some cases
you wring your hands like our friend here, mister Ellison,
in point five millimeters. We'll talk about that as we
continue second place because there was also you know, a DQ.
We talk about margin of victory in some of these events.

(12:48):
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And you know, one of the things we were talking
about a couple a couple of minutes ago, and Chris
Purfett gave us a specificity because we saw the end
of the archery matchup and the margin of victor being
about five millimeters. Now, everybody pull out a ruler and
look at what five millimeters is and you shake your head. Right,
years of training in this case, you know, right, years

(17:12):
of training And this is where I wanted to go
with because you you threw this up and we went
into the every two years, perhaps in between all the
world championships, the you got the Winter Olympics, Olympics to
think about, uh, in each sport and you know, the
different competitions and also trying to make sure you know
that that those calendars all work up and sync up.

(17:32):
But in the end, again, if the money is right,
the audience will show up. But the margin of victory
is something that watching a number of these events, I
feel so terrible for these participants, right when when you've
got this margin. You talked about expectations before, Ryan, and

(17:54):
certainly you know, we we get betting odds on everything anymore,
and we we have things built up, and it's like anything,
depending on your point of view perspective, right, you're always
gonna thank your your favorite male or female athletes gonna win. Yeah,
you might back back down and say, realistically, hey, we're
just hoping to meddle or have an opportunity. We've seen

(18:16):
some of the great responses from athletes winning their first
goals for their nation, right in certain events or or overall,
to where it's it's a monster deal for for a nation.
In the US, we're doing the metal count. We're just
waiting for the odometer to flip over, uh, to go

(18:37):
back to the car analogy. But that margin of victory
in some of these events has been very narrow, like
our like our archer. You've seen it in the pool
a couple of times. Right, it's a matter of maybe
the length of the middle finger, just to be funny

(18:57):
with it. But also you have the other side of it,
like Katie Leddeki the fifteen hundred meter where they had
to do the full how about how far out can
we zoom so we can get a shot of the
second place person trying to chase her down. Right, So
the dominance to where it's like, all right, I'm the
best of everybody else, and I acknowledge that Ladeki is

(19:18):
special and a global leader and a legend. So maybe
finishing second there you don't feel so bad, right because
you're you're looking at her as the outlier to the events, right,
Michael Phelps, you brought up his medal count earlier, you know,
those kind of things. But then you have some of
these events like where you're in a virtual dead heat.

(19:38):
You know, I'm as good as and then maybe on
that particular Saturday, that Sunday, that heat, that moment something
doesn't click and suddenly you're further down the metal stand
or you don't meddle at all, And trying to think
of that psychologically. You know, all that you've prepared for,
all those hours again, all of that stuff that you've skinned,

(20:00):
that quote unquote regular people do for that training opportunity,
and you can never take away the battle and competing
for your nation. But trying to reconcile that, you know,
because in four years, as you said, you're your pride
may be gone, but also the fact there might just

(20:21):
be someone on the come that just surpasses you.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, no, it, it definitely can happen that way. And
again I think it's it's tough watching and obviously, like
you know, track and field is supreme when it comes
to the Olympics because it's just a who who's the
fastest in this? In this? Uh, you know range, who
can jump the furthest who can jump to the highest

(20:49):
it is? It is when when I came I did field.
I did the jumps in college, I did the jumps
in high school, and I loved it because like, hey,
if I was better that day, I was better. I
didn't need any teammates. It was just it was black
and white. There were no real referees needed, just making
sure that I don't foul and my jumps were legal.
But the winner is the winner at the end of

(21:11):
the day. But again, if you're looking at the Olympics
as a whole, it's so subjective the way some of those
sports come in and you know, questioning things and I'm
sure there's obviously a rhyme or reason, and the world
is much bigger than obviously the USA. But again, if
I'm a swimmer, and let's say I'm Phelps, right not qualify,
get nine different chances of the medal or Shaikhari Richardson

(21:34):
she ends up coming in second, but you know it,
she's likely going to get a gold medal on the relay,
you know. But for some of those other sports, you're
gonna have one shot to be there, or even more
of an importance. Like you said, you know, missing gold
by literally a millimeter, and I think somebody was in
like the ten thousand meters or something like that, and
the guy comes roaring in at the end and it

(21:56):
looks like he beat him very decisively. You go back
and you know, heat beat him by a millisecond. It
was a point one of his second you know, Well, it's.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Funny what the eyes will do for you though, right,
because you see maybe someone coming down the stretch. We
do this like my family. We've we've long been betting
on and watching horse racing. So your perception changes, right
based on either your desired outcome or you know what,
you trick yourself and see it. No, that guy's coming
hard on the outside. It's like, no, actually you're still

(22:27):
beaten by a full head. But based on where you
are standing towards the finish line and whatever, your perspective
may alter it. Same thing here, you know, when we're
talking about the margins of victory, and I think you
know you bring up the point of being on the
track right and being able to run, there's a definitive winner,

(22:48):
right basketball, we'll get into how about you love or
hate referees in a minute, but you're done. It's not
a judgment like I can appreciate everything that gymnists do,
but I don't understand the scoring. And you can explain
it to me like I'm a five year old forty times,
and at my age, I think I've had it explain
to me by many people as best they can. Like

(23:13):
my cousin, her daughters were both very competitive. One was
still competing into college, and we talk about it and
she goes, you know, I've been to a lot of
these meets. I go, and I'm the cheering mom. But
what's the difference in that point one? I'm still trying
to figure it out all these years years later. And again,
it doesn't mean you don't have an appreciation for the

(23:34):
athleticism and everything that's on display. Watching what some own
biles and the team have done on the gymnastics side,
I marvel at it, but there's not a all right,
you won definitively because you just beat everybody in a pool,
on a track, on a basketball court, a soccer pitch,
keep on going on down the line, whether it's you know,

(23:55):
the zero point five millimeters of an archery shoot off,
you know that kind of thing. So it's the beauty
in every sport and the the agony of defeat, because
that's the other thing, right, you know, you get into
some of those those events, Ryan, and it's the all
right Judges, and we start looking sideways, right, all the

(24:19):
jokes for years on every comedy show that we could
about all right in the Eastern Bloc, judge is now
staring down sternly at what's going on on the on
the mat, on the pommel horse, whatever else. So yeah,
it's it's but it's three weeks of for the most

(24:39):
part positivity. Obviously, there's some controversy, and there's some some
events and and big things that that have transpired, Uh,
some of which are beyond the realm of of of
a simple sports talk show because larger political and and
I I don't even know what to to qualify it as.

(24:59):
But you know, the discussion points of fair play and
everything else. But you know, when I'm talking about the
the boxing story, of course, where misinformation and everything because
nobody ever reads the retraction. So that's always the hard
part with a lot of this stuff, Ryan, is you know,
a story finds a life of its own, and then

(25:21):
you try to go back and do the explanation, Well,
people have made people make their minds up, right, doesn't
mean that they'll ever come around, no matter how much
evidence is putting in their face. And we see that
and in every walk of life, business, politics, et cetera.
No matter what, we never see the retraction. We only

(25:42):
see what the initial feur is. Now we're watching whitewater
rapids going down, like I'm at the theme park. That
was kind of cool again, the kayak cross. I mean,
you're talking upper body strength and training right there as
you go through some skeet shooting. I just love the
breadth of events. And I know we put them on

(26:03):
the shelf as a collective for four years in between
these games, Ryan, but I'm intrigued, like I always want
to watch and hopefully, you know, I can get some
insights in some of the personal stories of what got
them involved in the sports is always the most exciting
part of this for some of these, right, what got

(26:25):
you into skeet shooting? I don't know, you know, I
have no idea. I grew up playing basketball or playing football,
or go out to the sandlot and play baseball. Maybe
you out on a soccer pitch. But then some of
these sports, like, all right, give me the entry path
towards skeet shooting were you're just a hunter and a
hunting family and it naturally extended from there. I mean,

(26:48):
that's the part of the Olympics that I find most fascinating.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Okay, let me throw this out to you. Hit me,
how do you feel? And this happens depending on what
you know with some of the Olympic athletes where you know,
let's say in their respective sport they were a sprinter
or something, and then they go to it literally a
whole nother sport and compete, you know, like deep into

(27:13):
their forties, you know. So I know, like some of those,
some of like the like the Winter Olympics, you'll have
people that you know, maybe were you know, you know,
ice skaters or something like that. They used to be bicyclists,
you know, like like and then they go metal. They go, yeah,
this person used to do this, this, this, and I go,
it's something about me just goes there's something wrong with that,

(27:35):
you know, because a gold medal is so exclusive, and
I feel like so that exclusivity is leaving when you
have the ability to just switch events and go get
a gold medal and I can't like, okay and shout
out my guy Chase, Buttinger, you know, he goes the
NBA all of a sudden, but he keep in mind

(27:57):
they always said would Chase. He was a much uh,
you know, a much better volleyball player than basketball player.
Just love basketball, you know. And obviously there's a lot
of money and involved. But when you can go and
you can age and you can come back and win
another sport, not that it doesn't take dedication and time,
and hey, a lot of these guys don't have the

(28:17):
ability to sit back and train, you know, train their
sport well.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
But if you have the opportunity, right and whatever means
that is, and this is where you can get into
larger discussions of socio economics and politics and everything else, right,
ground swell of support and where money gets put into
whatever soccer, basketball, et cetera. In terms of youth athletics

(28:46):
all the way through, I think, if you can train
and you're good enough to go and win trials and
compete in a second sport, good on you. Right again,
it's write the book. I'll I'll read it because I
want to know what drives you and what the focus is.
But if you're good enough as you get a little

(29:06):
bit older. I mean, we're watching Lebron James now it's
the same sport, but he's forty years old or going
to be forty here in a short short time that
you just keep going. And some would argue, well, you
should let the younger guys have it. You got in
your medal. It's like, no, he's still one of the
best players in the world. Go do it. And if
you know, Budinger or whoever else, second sport, third sport,

(29:29):
if you're the best for your nation, or there's look,
there's always other things at play. If your name and
attachment to it is going to bring sponsors and money
to help the other athletes get what they need to
participate and train, there's some of that that goes on
with a lot of these athletes as well. So I
can't fault it. And certainly, you know, as my body

(29:51):
withers with age and well sloth that my being a
you know, my slothlike movements and being a more a
couch potato and armchair and analysts than anything else. I'm

(30:12):
gonna call it what it is. Like I can appreciate
when folks are still that driven. I wish I was,
and in that regard right that I was still trying
to hoop it up three on three, I would probably
require at least one shoulder surgery, and I'm putting that
off as long as I can.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, the thing is, you know, and I don't know
how the voting goes or the committee sees things. When
you have some of these sports that they take off
and add like there's no no baseball anymore, right, oh softball?
You know, whatever the reasoning is within that, you know

(30:49):
what qualifies the sport. And when I look at it,
it's like, hey, how competitive are they playing? Is this
like you know, if this is a college like are
they just doing this as inner murals? Or are are
people paying money and training their whole lives to be
a part of it? Or it's like, well I'll switch

(31:09):
over and go get a gold medal. You know, how
competitive is the field? And that's that's to me the fairness.
So obviously, if you have the skill on into your
forties and it's exclusive and you are you know, of
the one percent, you know, I get it. But if
there's not enough people competing in that sport, I question

(31:32):
the legitimacy of the you know of the metal. You know,
there's certain feels like you're like they're just giving away
a gold medal, and I don't think that's fair to
some of those athletes that are missing out by a
millisecond in their sport.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Well they can get a participation trophy for you don't
believe that, Well, that's kind of where you let it you.
I feel bad that they lost. I mean, it's a millimeter, right,
and that's the that's the thing. You're in a competing
in a sport where the precision of a millimeter it matters.
You know what else matters, the absolute dynamic verbal capacity.

(32:10):
That is Isaac lowen Kron, your nemesis at the Dame
at the news desk at Isaac.

Speaker 8 (32:17):
Lowenkron, Morning, Mike and Ryan and I actually have a
quick story along.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
These lines for you guys.

Speaker 8 (32:23):
Once in the Olympics, the United States had two of
the favorites in the men's one hundred meters, So they
had their quarterfinal heat and they looked at the schedule
and they thought it said six point fifteen, but the
schedule actually said sixteen fifteen, meaning at twenty four hour o'

(32:45):
clock was actually four to fifteen in the afternoon. So
they're at the Olympic village chilling out watching TV. They
see the heats in the quarterfinals that they're supposed to
be in on the TV. They raced to the stadium,
but they don't make it in time. And because of
that a misreading of the schedule. One year, two of

(33:06):
the favorites in the one hundred meters failed to qualify
for the semi finals.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
So can you.

Speaker 8 (33:12):
Imagine losing your dream on a misread of a schedule.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
And everybody associated with that part of the program should
have lost their jobs. Yes, it's kind of what happened
three hours before the event. You should be at your venue,
right betching and big controversy.

Speaker 8 (33:29):
Back in the day, Howard Kosel was beside himself. We've
got the gold medal match going on right now.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Thank you, Howard. He still hasn't gotten over it.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
Gold medal match going on right now. In men's tennis
between Novak Djokovic and Carlos all Karaz, the first set
has gone to a tie break. In the tie break,
they are tied at three points a piece. And remember
it's a best of three sets in the Olympics. In
the final round, of the men's golf competition with seven
holes to go. John Rahm, at nineteen under par overall,

(34:03):
has a two shot lead over Tommy Fleetwood and Hideki Montsuyama.
Xander Schoffley of the United States three shots back. Scottie
Scheffler is four shots back. The US women's volleyball teams
wept France today three sets to none to finish group
play two and one in advance to the quarterfinals. Coming
up at eleven to fifteen Eastern, the US women's basketball

(34:24):
team faces Germany and its final game of group play.
Baseball Saturday Night Mariners over the Phillies and ten innings,
six to five. The Phillies on a six game losing streak.
Dodgers won in Oakland ten to nothing as Jack Flaherty
tossed six scoreless innings in his Dodger debut with seven strikeouts.
Show Hey Otani stole three bases to join the thirty
to thirty club.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Mike and Ryan, thanks so much, Ilo at Isaac Low
and Cron. Where you find him in the Twitter verse.
Find Ryan at the Ryan Hollins. Find me over at
Swollen Dome. As we continue, I'm gonna make this about
me the White Sox stink. I mean, it's well established.
Nineteen straight. It's an absolute disaster en route to that
nineteen sixty two Mets all time losing record. So I'm

(35:04):
gonna celebrate some wins in my life because it was
Hall of Fame weekend, and guess what, there were a
lot of Bears represented. We'll talk about that next on Fox. Hey,
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speaking on one cup of coffee, Ryan Hollands sometimes a
big challenge, no question about it. We've got the Global
TV show. We'll talk about that coming up in ten
minutes from now. But celebrating the weekend, and look the

(36:10):
Bears and the Texans got after it on Thursday night,
whether to weather ended up shortening the game Bears were leading.
I'm counting it as a win because again as a
White Sox fan, I haven't seen one of those in
a very very long time. But also the Hall of
Fame itself, Julius Peppers comes in, Devin Hester, the greatest

(36:31):
return man ever. And then my guy and I still
give my good friend Jason Cole who joins the show
and friend of our program, Smith and I during the
week he's one of the Hall of Fame voters. A
question that I've been asking for years, but Steve McMichael
finally got in and he can't speak at this point.

(36:52):
Advanced als. You saw the videos around on X if
you're watching any of the Hall of Fame stuff at
his head side unveiling the bus, a lot of his
eighty five Bears teammates, but Ryan for the levity because
he was once a very loud and outspoken gentleman. He
was a guy that was a member of the Four Horsemen. Yeah,

(37:14):
that's right. He went into wrestling for a while. So
you saw the tributes from from wrestling the wrestling world.
But here's one when he was probably at his peak
of celebrity, deciding to well to hijack the seventh inning stretch.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
All right, Mongo's home Chicago, and don't worry, I'll have it.
I'll have some speaks with that.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Homepint umpower after the game, all.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Right, into finding this. This bit's for you, Harricay, all
right with connois So it's so hurting.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
My crowd of good not one, not too not DoD
And then you get the seventh ining stretch. But he
calls out Angel Hernandez, who's been a punching bag in
the sports radio and television world forever. What was great
about it is you have the booing of the homeplate
umpire and he turns and he looks to the booth.
He eventually throws with Michael out. But one of those

(38:11):
agitator role kind of things. For me, it's I don't know, Ryan,
these all the fame inductions always catch me a little
bit and then I say, wow, it's already been five
or six or ten years since this guy retired, and
you start aging yourself. So there's the positivity. It's like
when all the junior juniors start flowing around in the
NBA and Major League Baseball. The first time for me

(38:35):
was Ken Griffy Junior. That goes all the way back
to nineteen eighty nine when I was only sixteen years old.
But starting to see the juniors come through in the
passes of time, and then you appreciate the longevity and
history of these guys in a different way. And you know,
Hall of Fame weekends always, you know, hit that soft
spot in what's otherwise a cold media heart.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah no, man, I I get it. And you know
when it comes to Hall of Fame, I'm all in
and I you know, I gotta give it's a former
NBA hooper. Man. The the NFL Hall of Fame is
just light years ahead of the NBA, just in a
sense of not that it's it's better set out, but
you know, it's it's a whole lot more exclusive, you know.

(39:20):
But it was cool to see and you saw Michael
Jordan's and the festivities came out and supported Julius Peppers,
you know, And I guess like I'm officially getting old
because they used to be the Hall of Fame inductees.
And I'm like, I don't know any of these guys,
and I'm like, no, I remember Peppers was amazing and
Dwight Freedi and going down the line, uh with the

(39:40):
with those guys man. And my nephew was actually out
there with my brother in law. He got a chance
to you got a picture with Michael Jordan's funny and
he sent me the photo. I said, you framed that photo.
Mj don't take photos, dude, you you got away good.
He don't take photos.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
So we must have been in an earlier good mood.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, whoever he was with, I forget the photo. I'd
need this story. Somebody was friendly enough to kind of
get Mike to do that. He don't photo.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, well we'll see if we can get that story
for next week. He's Ryan Hollinds. I'm by Carbon coming
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Carbon alongside Ryan Hollins. Ten years in the NBA. By
way of you see, I should I do the eight
clap UCLA, Welcome to the Big ten uh the latest
you know we're in Los Angeles is what your football
coach said. So that's good, given folks, the geography lesson,
ten years in the league, working with the Houston Rockets,

(41:07):
helping players become better participants in the game of life.
You see him as part of the seven the Opinionated
Seven Footers podcast. He's depicted in clipped the recent I
don't even know what you categorize that on FX, going

(41:28):
back to the Donald Sterling days. And of course he's
in uncut Gems. So you are in what some people
consider the best Adam Sandler non comedy ever.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Really really there you go.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
You have a part. You just keep that on the
CV and keep that updated. So talking about movies, talking
about a schedule, watching and made for television events. I
think that's kind of where we're headed with the men's
men's side of the basketball equation here, Ryan Hollins, As
we get ready this for the potential of another coronation

(42:03):
of the US men's Olympic team. One of the things
we've talked about a lot, Brianna and Chris and I
just talking about, you know, the collection of athletes and
where do they rank all time against the Dream Team
and all these different iterations of Team USA. We'll get deeper.
Draymond Green came out with some thoughts on the whole,
Jason Tatum, Joel embiid flap of DNPS. We'll get into

(42:27):
that in about twenty minutes. But looking at the way
the bracket came out, and well, it's not lost on
me that Team USA is on one side of the
bracket and Canada, France, and Germany are on the other,
Ryan Hollins, which means they would not meet until they
saw each other in a gold medal game made for

(42:48):
TV events.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
We spoke about this with last week. You know, I've
never seen or felt so much excitement from the basketball
side from a NBA perspective, because every team now has
a slew of NBA or former NBA players or guys

(43:13):
from our narrow minds that we can you know, we
can recognize and you know, if a team like Canada
ends up winning goal, right, you know, obviously we know
how dominate what the Gasol brothers, that Spain was and
that legendary Argentina team, but we can definitely would look

(43:37):
and be like, we're not surprised. We know how good
shake you'll just Alexander is you know, none of you
know what we've seen surprised us and even Giannis over
there with Greek but Greece. But I'm telling you, man,
from an NBA perspective, hands down the greatest Basketball Olympics

(43:58):
that we've seen, or just from a Star Powers perspective.
And then you know, even with this team, just to
have a team that you can compare and I know
the debate is starting to swirl. Some feel like there
is no debate, some feel like there is. And you've
got to give respect where it's due of the Dream Team.

(44:21):
You know, this team having comparisons with the Dream Team,
that's huge.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Well, I mean a lot of it. We talk about
the globalization of the game, the change in just athletes
in general, always great, but certainly more equally distributed. Shall
we say when we talk about where the NBA is, right,
if you do the hey, let's do the top ten
list of best players in the NBA. How many of

(44:47):
them are foreign born and trained in that growth?

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Right?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
You go back to Team Canada to show you how
big it is. Shake Gildess Alexander was the guest at
the halftime of the US game yesterday. We don't normally
do that in US coverage of the Olympics. Let's talk
to the Canadian but he was second in the league
in MVP voting. So here's Shake Gildes Alexander. Right, so

(45:12):
a little bit, you know, not to say you get myopic,
but let's face it, it's usually just a celebration of
here's another American athletes. Like, no, here's Shake Guild. Just
Alexander talking to Ti Rico while we wait for the
second half of the US game. But watching it play out,
you also have you go back to the Dream Team

(45:34):
of ninety two and again, different different time globally, where
the sport was, but also how it was covered. Access
to those athletes in the Olympic village and where they stayed,
and how they I mean, you were just talking about, hey,
trying to get a picture with Michael Jordan. Now guy's
been retired for twenty five years, and it's still Hey,

(45:56):
he showed up and you know, was more excited and
all of those kind of things. It makes news, right,
it's kind of a big deal. And there is at
the Hall of Fame enshrinement yesterday with Julius Peppers and
it becomes a hey, there's Michael Jordan. So take a
little shine from the event, but also add and magnifies

(46:17):
it because Michael Jordan showed up. That's how big a
presency is. But think about, you know, if we had
all these social media platforms and we had the instant
delivery of highlights and everything that we do now, back
then it was the George Michael's Sports machine reveted up
on a Sunday night for a lot of the highlights
of teams you wouldn't otherwise see. Not that you wouldn't

(46:38):
have gotten the Dream Team, but again, even televised Olympiads
back in the day, we're a totally different animal. We
didn't have nine thousand channels. It was how do you
compartmentalize it and make it a nice primetime package because
they weren't going to even preempt it for soap operas
a lot of times back in the day, you know

(46:59):
what I mean. But that's where we're at, right off
off of Peacock. We were talking about it before and
scrolling through you've got every event, and you've got it
sometimes in other languages available to you. Like it's just
a globalization and a difference and talking about you know,
where Team USA is on the men's side, and you know,
trying to go between generations and legacies. I mean, it's

(47:23):
fun fodder. Unless we can do some of the Marvel
Cinematic Universe things and actually merge these guys in their primes,
we'll never find out. But it's fun to theorize and
go through the process because we had Bird and Magic
and those guys towards the end of their run who
are actually younger than some of these guys that are

(47:43):
playing still at the top of their game now. Diet, nutrition,
all of those things that are different, and the microscope
being different and how you respond to it, you know,
to being under that magnifying glass. I think it's just
the fascinating study of it all right. For Kevin Durant.
I don't think I've seen him smile this much as

(48:05):
he has in the last week. Right, he's going back
and forth with folks on Twitter. He's got a lot
of downtime. They're going to all these events, like Steph
Curry with the ping pong team and asking them to
sign the ping pong balls was great, and showing up
at all these different events. I mean, your celebrities, but
you're still part of a collective and you appreciate greatness

(48:25):
based on what you've been able to achieve, and then
in your downtime it's like, hey, let's roll up to
event XYZ. That part of this Olympics has been kind
of cool to watch as well. Just the humanity, the
human side of the athletes that are normally just in
box scores. Doesn't mean we're still not doing the same
old nonsense that we do for the NBA and picking

(48:48):
apart everything. I mean, we'll talk about Steve Kerr's decisions
and what he's doing right guy rite, temperament and good
at managing egos, all of those things, but what do
we do we micro managed like we do all eighty
two of a home team's game or all the way
through the playoffs when they're broadcast nationally and we dissect
possession by possession, the good, the bad, the ugly, and

(49:10):
we're doing it here. But now we get to the
metal rounds. And I just thought the the way the
bracket got set up was just kind of funny, like,
all right, let's let's make sure we got us on
one side and take nothing away from the teams that
have advanced. But on the other side are where all
your marquee brands are in terms of opposition to the US,

(49:31):
including the home France squad.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, and you know that it's I don't know how
it's it's you know, put together in times, but yeah,
that's that's a part of it. You know. I remember
when I played under nineteens in Greece was the home
team back then. Okay, I'm still salty about that opportunity,

(49:55):
but we were date depth. When I tell you, they
stack the the other side away from Greece and made
sure that Greece had every opportunity. It was like Australia, Lithuania.
You know, Andrew bogat Lenis Klaza was with Lithuania and
Puerto Rico, and Puerto Rico had what's our guy JJ Berean.

(50:17):
Those guys man, they absolutely stacked that opposing side and
I definitely, I definitely remember that man, And we remember
we had a chance to go into the metal rounds
and we had to play against Australia after a heavy
win against Lithuania and we were absolutely gassed. So yeah,
you're gonna give your home country every chance to get

(50:39):
in and do their best. But again I don't know.
I'm speaking from my ignorance. I don't know how the
pool or the seating's done.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
What do you think Franz Vogner? Is he gonna dunk
on Wemby? Again? I wanted my tops Now car to
that one.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
He's probably gonna be dunked on a lot in his career,
but he unfairly blocks many shots.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Of course he does. He's a shot changer, he's a
look you get into the low post, the alterations, all
of those things. There's no no doubt about that. But
a bit of a rough week for the home squad
as it were, the curiosity of Rui Hachimura getting ejected
because of unsportsmanlike falls in. You know, some of these matchups,

(51:22):
you just get a bit confused as to what we're watching,
but you know, all in all, it's it's been a
fun tournament to watch and certainly the stars shining out
and having a good time with it. Like the camaraderie
within even if there's a lot of noise swirling around,
certainly seems to be there.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yeah, no, man, it's again it's cool to watch. But
you know, I think again, man, this just has a
This is a different Olympics. Man, there's a different field
dun where you know we're used to seeing.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
No question about it. All right, we'll continue with Draymond
and he commented on the d MPs. He had some
thoughts and e owed back to some old experiences in
his participation, but curiosity because you know, we've got now
the metal rounds and we've seen guys and it seems
drownd Robin of who's next up on the d NPS

(52:17):
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out My garment with Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins
find me over at Swollen Dome. And the controversy still
swirls around Team USA. I dismiss it as I trust
Steve Kerr, Eric Spolsterra Tylou and the brain trust that
they've assembled. They know what they're doing, particularly the Steve
Kerr component when it comes to handling Egos Spolstra on

(53:53):
the metal stand. There as well of guys that have
had to take a lot of big time players, figure
out role sprinkle in some role players to greatness, and
certainly Team USA. The role players are still some of
your current elites. But as you would expect, Ryan Allins

(54:13):
Draymond Green decided he needed to chime in on the
job Steve Kerr and company are doing, particularly as related
to Jason Tatum and later Joel embiid. What I don't
like about it is now to me, it feels like.

Speaker 9 (54:29):
A cover in my tracks, like proving a point and
type thing to where like, oh now Joel's out of
the lineup, and then today Drew didn't play. And I'm
sure it's part we could rest the ankle a little bit,
but it's part we gotta not play someone. And quite frankly,
I don't like it, like come up with a rotation

(54:50):
to stick with it.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
These teams aren't.

Speaker 9 (54:52):
Good enough to where we're trying to match their lineup.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
We gotta match our lineup.

Speaker 9 (54:59):
Hey, we're not matching they line up, by the way,
because we got the best players.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
In the world we gonna match they line up anyway with.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Whoever we got on the court, We'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
So the whole like match their.

Speaker 9 (55:12):
Lineup or you know, this guy out of the lineup
and not disagree with it.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Sore you go Draymond saying, hey, look, I get it.
You can talk about matchups and what challenges South Sudan
presents in terms of the up and down pace and
three point shooting, et cetera. Related to where Joel Embiide
is physically and what he does and how you need
to operate your offense with him. But I didn't think

(55:39):
Draymond would go the three weeks without a little commentary,
did you, Ryan.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
I mean, hey, he's in it, and I hear where
he's coming from. But you know, in terms of Joel,
teams were trying to, you know, making him have to
chase around the perimeter. But so his value isn't there
every game. So I do disagree with Draymond. I think
in terms of Jason Tatum, because of his versatility, they

(56:07):
don't really get why he wouldn't play. I do think
that was a mistake, but I know that also, hey,
in the locker room and probably before he was even
selected maybe those guys were asked, and I have no
problem with that. I don't like the social media backlash.
And we had, you know, we have now that we
didn't have back then. And maybe Jason Tatum was asked,
are you okay with a DMP some games? Are you

(56:28):
okay stepping in to defend? Are you okay if someone
is more equipped from you in a certain game. He's
not the most amazing defender. Derek White's a better defender.
We can't argue that Tatum is the better player that
did it. That is unanimous. So Joel, hey, you're gonna
get a DMP this game? Are you okay with that? Okay?
They go small, their center shoots threes. Yes, you can

(56:51):
dominate them, but we don't want to spin the ball.
You're pounding it into the paint or the game pounding
into the Paintin there's it's a pass or fail grade here.
It ain't about feelings. It's gold or nothing at all.
And the coaching staff assembled the players that bought in.

(57:12):
I got a chance to see him in in the
I wanted to call it preseason, but in the exhibition,
and the one thing that I saw is that all
those guys were bought in. Man. I don't think they
really cared too much about minutes, and you can see
that's why some people are left off the team, where
they like it or not. Hey, maybe Draymond felt like

(57:33):
he was a guy that could have got to invite.
He could have been, you know, a Drew Holiday, you
know for the team where he could have been a
Derek White, you know, with his experience and honestly, the
way that Draymond plays, he's equipped for the world, for
the world sport, you know, for world basketball, for Olympic basketball.
His style of play is that. So who knows, Maybe

(57:54):
he's a little disappointed. He went and asked that, I
don't know, I'm just assuming.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
But see that's it, right, we are getting into backgrounds,
agendas and where you are on the depth chart. Did
you have conversations that led to a dead end in
terms of involvement. Obviously, when you're questioning this stuff, it
goes back to that's your coach. May for Tatum, he
didn't play great in the exhibitioner for five run or

(58:22):
the five and zero run, I should say, right, the
five games and look, Steph hasn't shot lights out either,
so you know you can go and start pointing your fingers.
You know, we were having our pre show valuation, Brion,
if you want to jump in here and make your
case for your guy. I mean, we've got the hoop
type global ratings of players thus far marveling at the

(58:42):
wonderful world of Kevin Durant. And one of the things
I've loved is watching Anthony Edwards continually looking or at
least to my estimation, looking for the approval and love
from Kevin Durant. But you got Edwards as rated highest
thus far during these game games. Durant second, Lebron coming
in third, and then Breonna has got her guy, Devin Booker,

(59:05):
two way guy getting his love in the four slot,
and on the telecast certainly Dwayne Wade's gone out of
his way to make sure to single him out for
what he's doing on both sides. So, Brianna, your Phoenix
Sun's getting a little bit of love.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (59:19):
And I just think he's been really stepping up like on,
especially defensively, and he's actually been like the one constant
as the starter throughout these entire Olympic games. And like
I said, defensively, he's just been on. You know, I
can't talk, but basically you know what I mean. So
I just I just feel like he's a huge difference

(59:40):
maker and he's making a huge impact, you know, not
as much as like Anthony Edwards and like Katie, but
I think he's been pretty critical to their successful well.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
But that's part. Part of it is being consistent, right,
and consistent minutes and going back to the Tatum thing
war EMBIID, you know, EMBIID sits out. There were a
lot of speculation that, you know, prom you got to
promise these guys something getting here, right, You've got to
convince them to sign up for it. You're doing. The
recruit is like college, right, like a college kid. Like

(01:00:11):
it's coach coming to sit on your couch, Ryan Hollins
to come in, so you know, hey, what are the
assurance pt what's the training look like? All of those
kinds of things are going to be part of this process.
You know. To that point, I think Booker as in
terms of consistency of effort on both ends. You know,
I certainly have no issue with him being I would

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have put him on the metal stand just because you know,
that's the importance.

Speaker 10 (01:00:36):
He's like bought into his role too, which I think
has been pretty important.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Mister, buying into your role at this stage is everything
because you can trust me. There's a more talented group
out there that could have been a part of this.
There's a group that's more talents. But again, if you're
a part of the committee and you don't want to
hurt feelings, you're worried oft feelings and someone's gonna be upset.

(01:01:02):
It's just kind of part of the sport. And you
don't you don't win gold, you failed that. It's all
that they're not gonna ahe man, you left that guy off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, so it's you don't want to can't get in
your fields, and like that's the thing. I tried to
use this with Smith. He got kind of mad at me.
But like anything you do, you can get through for
a short period of time. Right, Maybe you don't like coworkers.
Maybe you'll be on a new project, maybe they'll leave,
maybe you'll leave. Whatever. The class that you sign up for,

(01:01:38):
well it's part of the major requirements. You know you're
going to struggle. Maybe it's that rogue chemistry class you
have to take and you have no aptitude and no desire.
Guess what twelve weeks or however long your semester or
quarter is will go by pretty fast. Same thing here.
You may not like it, but you could probably swallow

(01:01:58):
your pride a little bit for three weeks knowing that
that Olympic medal has grander meaning for your career, your longevity,
and hopefully the sense of pride of being part of
that team, whether you're getting huge minutes or not. For
Jason Tatum in Game one, it's like, once it's a
it becomes a all right, what's the margin of victory? Question?

(01:02:19):
Are we going to cover the spread is more of
the question than are we in the battles of a
game that we may lose?

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
How many guys are like, Yeah, I don't need the
five minutes coming off the end of the bench, especially
if you're a guy of that caliber, Right, it's you know,
and it's not Hey, I'm it's senior night and I
haven't seen a minute, so you know, clear the bench
and get me in. Oh you're an Olympian. I don't
know how much you'd want that five minutes at the
end of the game to just finish it out? Or

(01:02:51):
am I? Am I wrong in thinking that way about
perhaps you know, looking Kirks took it and said, hey,
it's my mistake. It won't happen. We'll figure it out.
He's gonna play next game. But for some of it,
it becomes again a little bit of the ego management
of all right, this game's decided, now you go win.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
I think at the end of the day, it's whatever.
As a player, I will say, wherever the communication was,
as a player, you roll with it, and that shows
obviously a respect for the game, but a buy in.
And I think that if that communication was there, hey,
j T, we're gonna go with Derek White for defensive purposes.
This game know its light to you, and he knows

(01:03:33):
going in he's not gonna play. That's fair. But what's
tough is when you get out there, you're prepared, you
lathered up, you're ready to go, and then and then
you don't play. Sure what is going on? And from
the looks of those guys and he didn't play, I
don't think that was the case. I don't think it was.
I think Joel has been a great sport about it

(01:03:55):
when he didn't play. And yes, there is a big
part of him being there because if USA ends up
matched up with France. You don't want to get dominated
in the pain or have Gobert running around free. Or
if the USA when they when they matched up with Serbia,
Jokic didn't just have a field day on the block.
And I tell you one thing that we know, Anthony
Davis would have had a long bam out of Baio,

(01:04:17):
would have had a long, very long night trying to
dart guard Yokic. Okay, So sure he has immense value,
even though you don't see it the way that we're
seeing it. Used to seeing it from Joel Embiid and
used to seeing it front of those guys. Hey, Anthony
Edward's coming off the bench. They were arguing if he's
the best player on the planet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Well, he also said he was the number one option,
so he raised his hand. Remember the Jordan comparisons that
started being made as we got into the playoffs and
everything else. Uh, you know, the let's build it up, uh.
And part of it is look, I'm not gonna say
it's an active part part of a lot of sports media,

(01:04:58):
but some of it is conquered. Divide and conquer and
see if you can find fractures, because then you might
get someone to give you a good one liner, like
Jason Tatum and the wake of the DNP is like,
you know, it was humbling. I understand things from a
little different perspective now, right, it seems kind of contemplative
and you know, thoughtful and reflective of the whole thing.

(01:05:19):
And let's not kid ourselves. If Joel Embiid wasn't happy
or isn't happy with some of this stuff, eventually he's
hitting a podcast and he's gonna tell us just a
matter of when. That's not a guy that's gonna, you know,
just swallow something if he felt disrespected or anything. Eventually
it's gonna come out. Oh yeah, right, of all those

(01:05:44):
guys like that's the guy I look at it. Go Really,
if he's salty about any of this, he may be
fine on the bench now and you might have the
stoic look on his face as you know, the French
crowd booze him, but eventually he'll have his say. It's
like Draymond anything happens related to the NBA or its players,

(01:06:04):
we know we're getting a podcast on it eventually, and
Joe Al Embiid's not far behind.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yeah, No, you're right about that. There is there's no
there's no question at all. You know, guys will let
you know. But here's the thing, man, I guess be
mindful about speaking out, man, because you can, you know,
you likely take yourself out of consideration, you know, for
the next time. And you know, the committee and Sean

(01:06:33):
Ford and Grant Hill, they know the guys that are out,
you know, you know, it wasn't perfect, and you know,
I got a chance to do some USA Basketball stuff,
but they're concerned about image. Hey, do guys want to
have the commitment? You know, are you willing to buy in?
And you know it starts at the top and it's
it's not equal. Hey man, you can probably clearly for

(01:06:56):
chemistry purposes. Isaiah Thomas was left off the Dream Team.
To this day. That still urks Isaiah that it's just like,
come on, man, you know. And and he wasn't even
afforded a conversation, you know, because Michael was the priority. Okay.
And I don't think anybody has beef Jalen Brown, you know,

(01:07:16):
except from the standpoint Yeah, well, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Accept administratively from the players standpoint.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Now, well, hey, you side note. You know, it's funny
everybody was wondering how do you dethrown the Celtics. They
just look so dominant and so deep, you know how
USA basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
No, that just seems the case, right. That was Steve
Kerr might be playing the long game and he actually
thinks his Warriors are ready for another run up in
the Western Conference. Hey, someone's gotta believe, and this is
the way to maybe fracture the heavyweight on the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
And AND's for funny and for Steve Kerr. You know,
side note, Draymond's talking about the coaching for TVU. No,
that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
What I'm saying, right, you got him doing this And
we'll get into Steph Curry next hour because he's not
going to Chris Haynes had the report, remember who Steph
met with the media a while ago talking about, well,
you know, echoing Dak Prescott a bit of like, well,
guys have gone to other other jerseys and whatever, and
if winning's not the thing, sounds like there might be

(01:08:22):
a little more than that. So Steve Kerr not only
putting out fires with US media covering his squad and
again armchair quarterbacking coaching decisions and rotations, but also the
fact that internally, now you got Draymond piping up. You
got Steph who may be looking at greener pastures hanging
out with a bunch of other superstars at the Olympics.

(01:08:46):
We always chuckle about tampering and all, Ryan Hollins, they
got a lot of time together as they go from
event to event.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Yeah, hey, man, you know what those guys are enjoying it,
you know, and look who winning. Here's all you don't
want to get into a losing situation. And here's what
I know you guys are worried about all these minutes.
I'm gonna tell you one thing, when when those difficult
games come around, they're gonna be difficult, and it ain't
gonna be about feelings. Because once you see a team,

(01:09:18):
probably the second or third time, all of a sudden,
and man, they come out fire and it's a different game.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
So I think with the experience, you know, Team of
USA is going we better be prepared. Everything's fine and
dandy now, but I'm telling you it heats up quick.
You find yourself down twenty points.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
He's Ryan Hollins on Mike Harmon here, Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports Sunday. Coming up next, we'll turn our attention
to the National Football League. We got three quarterbacks injury
and availability concerns, but one of them. I saw a
bunch of billboards for that squad today and I gotta
say my panic meter is rising fast. We'll talk about

(01:09:59):
that next, but first, it's Isaac Lohenkron, the man, the legend,
the myth over at the news desk. He's got everything
trend to get our sporting.

Speaker 8 (01:10:07):
Universe Mike and Ryan thinks really heating up right now.
In the final round of the men's golf competition at
the Olympics, American Scottie Scheffler is now tied for the
lead with Tommy Fleetwood at eighteen under par overall. In
the final round today, Scheffler is eight under through sixteen
so it's Scheffler and Fleetwood tied for the lead at
eighteen under. Hideki Matsuyama one shot back at seventeen under.

(01:10:32):
Victor Perez and John Rahm are two shots back at
sixteen under. If the final round ends in any sort
of tie, they will go to a three hole playoff.
In the gold medal match in men's tennis, Novak Djokovic
took the first set over Carlos al Karaz in a
tie break, but right now all karaz leads the second

(01:10:52):
set over Djokovic five games to four. Remember in the Olympics,
it is the best two out of three sets instead
of a best three out of five. The US women's
volleyball team today swept France three sets to none to
finish group play with a two to one record in
advance to the quarterfinals. Coming up just over half an
hour from now, the US women's basketball team plays its

(01:11:14):
final group game against Germany. On Major League Baseball on
Saturday night, the Seattle Mariners rallied from five to nothing
down after four and a half to beat the Phillies
in ten innings, six to five. Philadelphia now on a
six game losing streak. Dodgers victorious at Oakland ten to nothing.
Jack Flaherty six scoreless innings in his Dodgers debut with
seven strikeouts, and sho Hey o'tani had three stolen bases

(01:11:38):
to join.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
The thirty to thirty club. Mike and Ryan, thank you
so much at Isaac Lowan Crown. See what he's got
going on, Chargers, Angel City FC. Make it a push
all of that fun stuff. Check it out there on
his Twitter feed. Follow Ryan at the Ryan Hollins find
me over at Swollen Dome before we hit our break here,
mister Hollins for the women's side in a half hour.

(01:12:00):
Should Brianna Stewart just be the point guard? At this point?
They're not getting a lot from the guard play, so
should it just be a two woman game with her
and Wilson?

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
No, listen, man, don't just I didn't want.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
To blabor what's going on with the guards at this
point because I think folks have had a little bit
of why isn't Caitlyn Clark here fatigue?

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
I mean, I don't know if you saw, but Don
Staley addressed I like what Don said and said, hey,
if she had been playing the way she's playing now,
there would be no questions there. And you know, you
didn't want the Caitlyn Clark show to kind of engulf
the change for the women to go. And the women
are much further along than our men are, you know

(01:12:44):
when it comes to that competition, because you know a
lot of them for half the year go overseas and
play against those girls and have the experience.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
And they do. And at this point, though, you know,
it's hard to not see some issues with the way
the guards had played through at least this part of
the competition. We'll get another chance in a half hour's time.
I just like when Stuart brings the ball up and
can look over everybody. It's kind of like we were
talking about with Durant on the men's side, right, because

(01:13:14):
you got the extra couple of inches, It's like, yeah,
I'm gonna shoot over you, but I can also see
what's going on. And she's just been a phenomenal through
the early rounds here of play. So we'll see what
happens in a half hours time. But coming up next
here in Los Angeles, great expectations billboards in between all
of the lawyer ads. But the quarterback has a giant

(01:13:36):
question mark over his head. Now we'll get into that
as we continue on Fox Sports Sunday. Welcome back in
Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carving alongside Ryan
Hollins having a blast feed this morning all sorts of
Olympic activities. Remember once upon a time it was rom
and shoftly nah, not so fast golf heating up new

(01:13:58):
names atop the leaderboard, including the familiar one when you've
got Scheffler atop the lead We watched cycling Ryan Hollins,
and we had a giant crash involving a number of
the participants, So we'll see if we can get some
updated information of how many bicyclists lost their rides or
are now woefully behind coming out of that. So so

(01:14:22):
much activity, including the men's final in tennis as well,
but turning our attention to the National Football League as
we really get into the throes of training camp, a
couple of injury issues. We've seen Russell Wilson miss some
dates for the Pittsburgh Steelers because of working on the
sled hurting himself. There, you've got Geno Smith is out

(01:14:48):
at least for a little while, so Sam Howell gets
a chance to run and run with the ones. But
here in Los Angeles, planter fasciitis is something everybody's researching.
After the ch Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert was diagnosed with
the injury and is now in a boot for a
couple of weeks before we get towards the open air

(01:15:09):
up for the Chargers. Uh, any history of planiful fascy
itis in your world or watching teammates experience this pain?

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
From my standpoint, thank god no, but oh my goodness.
I know teammates that had it. And the worst thing
about it, it does not go away. You don't get
a chance to rest it. And the only way that
it goes away is for you to get off your
feet and that pain, oh man, and you just kind

(01:15:40):
of played through it. It's just something you're gonna have
for an entire season. Hopefully you don't have like a
you know, a major flap or so. But oh, it's
it's a very real thing. That is something I don't
like to see. And you know, those guys right after
the game, they'll be, you know, stuck in that in
that cold, you know, the cold with a little footpath,

(01:16:01):
and you know, again it's it's nothing you know, you
ever want to deal with, tell you that much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Right now, inflammation of the band of tissues along the
bottom of the foot, really rest and some massage, stretching,
whatever pt go down the normal run of things. We're
talking about a quarterback, new coach, great expectations, who joked
about it. The last couple of weeks. I got accident

(01:16:27):
attorney billboards and I got Harbaugh and Herbert on all
the billboards in southern California right now, trying to hype
this season and trying to get that push here in
the LA area, particularly bringing in new running backs both
those guys that used to be Ravens and changing the
identity here. But you have a massive contract for Justin Herbert,

(01:16:50):
and now you've got a huge question about pain threshold
because they don't have an established number two behind it.
You got and you've got Easton Stick. Stick's been there
a while, a couple of years now, but nobody with
massive experience. So Herbert is just gonna be curious to
see what that pain threshold is because this is one

(01:17:14):
that a lot of weekend Warriors can actually relate to.
Oftentimes we have these injuries, Ryan, It's like you start
going through and you have these the doctors come on
and start giving you all of the insights of It's like, yeah,
I don't know, I was never at that level. I
don't have that injury plan. A fasciatus. Yeah, you know,
either that or maybe they're misdiagnosing gout. If for those

(01:17:36):
armchair warriors as well, too many salted meats, but you know,
swollen feet and pain with each step. But if I'm
a Chargers fan, I'm suddenly feeling a lot less optimistic
about what my year is because week to week I
don't know about the mobility of my quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
No, it's not fun, I mean, and it's something he
should be able to play through. I don't definitely does
in the season, but it you know, yeah, it causes
major discomfort. And again I do not envy any player
who has to go through letter fasciitis. It is. It
is painful, dude. It does not get h you know,

(01:18:16):
worse from that standpoint, and there's you know, other levels
to it, and I'm not sure, don't quote me on it.
If that planner of fascia can develop into like a
how would I put it a a stress fracture? I
don't know if it can grow into that, I'm not sure.
Like again, I don't know if it's about the bone

(01:18:37):
or like you said, I think it's just I think
it's just a tissue. But again, nonetheless nothing to be
played with at all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Yeah, you would treat them the same at least to
lead to some degree, at least in my rudimentary web
MD Google searches this morning. So you know, I'm not
a doctor, but I try to pretend to be one
every once in a while here, maybe I'll go get
a PhD just so like myself doctor, and then people
can guess from there. But yeah, it's it's more concerning

(01:19:05):
because you do have a new coaching staff and a
new offense system, and now you have to be in
operation shut down for several weeks. I think that's the
more concerning thing, because you're always chasing the chiefs, and
then folks would have to believe on some level that
Sean Payton starts to turn things in the proper direction
they're in Denver. And then I'll refrain from making the

(01:19:28):
obligatory Raiders joke out of deference to our friends that
are Raider fans that may or may not be listening
this morning. I salute you with my oversized cup of coffee.
But it's fun to talk to NFL. These are the unfortunate.
The only stories that break through right now are injuries
and off field issues, contract fights and whatever else. Anything else.

(01:19:50):
On the field, you might get a little bit of hey,
this guy's shining, but everything else is Please don't show
up on the blotterer here because it's odds are it's
an injury or something that's gonna make me feel sad.
About my squad. Right, it's that hurry up and wait
thing that month before that first game that we're so
excited to see. But it's like Hungry Hungry Hippos and

(01:20:13):
the Simpsons. The waiting game stinks, So you go and
find yourself a board game to play. He's Ryan Hollins
at the Ryan Hollins. I'm by Carmen here, Fox Sports Sunday,
Fox Sports Radio. Turn our attention back to the Olympics.
Maybe you can extend your prime. We'll tell you how. Next.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, Gradis and welcome in
final hour of the program for us on a big
Fox Sports Sunday Olympic coverage wall to wall Women's national
team basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Addition, they'll tip off in just a couple of minutes
from now. So much else going on and golf and
tennis and everything else. But what's going on in your world?
Ryan Hollins, how are you this fine morning?

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Doing great? Brother? How you been doing?

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Hustle is real? You know, we're head to head in
a wall to wall coverage. I've got a whiteboard with
all the fantasy content that I need to start drawing
up because it is that time of year. To get
those rankings and everything together, and daunting tasks because first off,
there's a lot of guys that change teams. The other is,

(01:21:18):
I'm knee deep in my Phil Steele College Football Guide.
I don't know if you're familiar with the format of
the magazine, but it's one of those that you need
a magnifying glass because it's so chock full of information
on every page that the font might have actually been
invented by him, that's how small it is. But you
want stats, you want data points and whatever else, and

(01:21:41):
they wait until the absolute last minute, so most of
your transfer stuff is done right as opposed to if
you publish it a little bit earlier. None of these
guys are on the same team, the old fantasy magazine
problem when I used to contribute to those. But we're
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everything he's got, cooking all the analysis, getting ready and
warming up and enjoying a little downtown before he gets
back to the planet. Houston Rockets and coverage of a

(01:22:26):
team that's going to be pretty exciting on the come.
Last year, I had a couple of new component parts.
I mean, got to be some excitement there, not only
you know the CJ. Stroud Express, oh Man, because that's
got to be a whole other world right now. Expectations
off the charts with what's been assembled.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
Yeah, listen, man, the Texans are one of those teams
you're you're going to be talking about right now for CJ.
And while he's under you know, a team friendly deal.
This is the time to win, right This is when
you win. And that's why, you know the Texans kind
of going all in. This is the time. So yes,
exciting time in Houston Rockets, getting better astros not quite

(01:23:07):
their normal sales, but they're always going to be just fine.
There's no worries there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
But it's competitive baseball. It's not nineteen losses in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Yeah, I guess you're the guy that doesn't want to
hear that right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Yeah, I don't want to hear about other people's belly
ache and of oh we had a bad week. Oh
we're struggling. Oh, let me juggle my World Series trophies
and laugh at you. And right now they are one
game behind the Seattle Mariners. Remember they actually chased them
down from that ten game deficit to take the lead.
A briefly update from the Olympics. Novak Djokovic is your

(01:23:44):
gold medal winner over Carlos Alcarez, so that one is
a final. We're getting towards the end of it. Here
on the golf side, Scheffler and Fleetwood tied at nineteen
under too, ahead of Matsuyama and John Rahm. Fantastic finishes
all around. You know me, like a kid on the

(01:24:06):
first day of school, I'd rather be anywhere else. Then,
you know, I should say, like, look, nothing more than
everything coming at me fast and furiously, because it's a
new opportunity for greatness. And that's what we're having today,
because it's metal winning time, final night in the pool.

(01:24:26):
Later on we'll have some of that swimming medals to
be handed out. Brionna did give me the update. Only
two cyclists were injured in that pile up at the Olympics,
so that was that's good to hear that it's a
small number, and most got back up on the bikes
and we're riding again, so you know, we got to
keep you apprized of everything that's going on. Head on

(01:24:47):
a swivel with everything. And one of the goats we
talked about some own biles a little bit earlier, one
of the names for this Olympics. But also not shutting
the door entirely. On twenty twenty, Ryan Hollins trying to
extend it, you know where they talk about age and
she even jokes saying, well, you know, I'm kind of
old in her post event commentary. But I did like this.

(01:25:14):
This was one of her tweets. Quote, you guys really
got to stop asking athletes what's next after they win
a medal at the Olympics. It's the old go to
kind of the talk about. But she left the door
open of competing for twenty twenty eight. Quote, never say never.
The next Olympics is at home, so you just never know.
But I am getting really old. She's twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Yeah, for gymnastics, it is I remember at UCLA a
lot of the some of the Olympians would come and
it was like, like retirement they're taking there, you know,
they're they're collegiate athletes that they're taking their retirement. Well,
you know, or.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
It's weird, right, you know it comes though.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Hey, yeah, absolutely, no, I get it. And you know,
for Simone vile Man, I just really like that she's
being celebrated, she's having fun. You know, gymnastics been really
a fun story. She's the goat of the sport. So
I love that random little off topic Mike. I wonder
because I think we all sit back with this mindset.

(01:26:16):
What Olympic sport do you watch and you go, I
think if I did anything that would be it? Is
there anything you watch and you're like, all right, that's
where I win my medal?

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Oh I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Oh you gotta have I'm a big fella. You gotta
have something. There's something you watch and it's like, yeah,
that's me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Like once upon a time, I mean, probably could have
been trying to compete with my man in the shot put,
but how he's a three time gold medalist, right, short squat,
you know, power, powerful base that maybe I could launch
one there, But you know, we got because the men
were shut out in an individual gold here up until yesterday.

(01:26:58):
Finally got one in shooting, and then we had the
for Krauser the third straight gold medal in the shot put.
So I'm not beating him most likely. I mean, he's
a legend, but that that's a sport I could maybe
have competed in, maybe wrestling back in the day. I
don't know. I'm trying. I'm trying to think of where
this might have worked. Chris has one for Is this

(01:27:20):
for me or for you? For you?

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
For you nervous?

Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
No, I think I think you'd have. The downside is
we'd have to put a team around you here. But
absolutely you could be actually bringing America to prominence in handball.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Okay, yeah, we do have handball on here.

Speaker 5 (01:27:41):
I love handball because it is just I think when
my friends described as a sport a pe teacher makes
up in gym class. And yet at the same time,
like having been to Sydney to the handball stuff. The
Germans who I was there with, absolutely took this incredibly seriously.
But I think you'd make a fine handball player.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
I appreciate that. Well, what do you want to do, Chris,
what's your what?

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
I did taekwondo and several martial arts when I was
in like you know, elementary school and junior junior high
and I know taekwondo's coming up here. I love watching judo.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
I don't think i'd be good at it at all.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
I don't think I have the reflexes to have done
table tennis, but I would have liked to try.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
How about you, Hollins, Is table tennis there, because I
mean you could really dominate the size and reach.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
No, I'd been no good. I've been no good to
the USFA and table tennis. I think my safest sport
was basketball, and we'll keep it there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
But what what would you you know if you had
a second one?

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Oh? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
I mean well, because I mean obviously basketball, because yes,
you played you nineteen, I got it. I'll add to
your intros for the next hour.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Let's clarify the the handball, because there's the handball where
they're hitting the hand against the wall, and then there's
like this like rugby basketball deal.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
So you know, this is what we're talking about. What's
actually in.

Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
The Yeah, this thing looks like a combo of basketball
and like us with your hands.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Yeah, a little bit of rugby kind of like there's
some contacts.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
So yeah, I gotta confess I've had dreams about myself
competing in that rugby handball?

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
This kind?

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
I like, our match would be tremendous with your h
with your length.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
I don't think it would be fair. I just I
wouldn't even see the guys and I'd be like whipping
shots in you know, like I yeah, I now, I
don't want to take away from the sport, but it
is one that I watch and go wow. As a
basketball player, just kind of run and jump over somebody
or like two dribbles or you know, then you take
a step. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
Yeah, Why can't we get the US to compete in handball?

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
How about that we get a second life for some
of these NBA players.

Speaker 5 (01:29:41):
Yeah, like we get we get rugby seven's. Americans do,
like we're not great at full rugby for the Rugby
World Cup, but like rugby sevens both you know, the
women's took bronze for the first time history, and like
the men's compete fairly well in rugby sevens because you've
got some of those football players. I just you gotta
put a handball team together here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
I don't think we even know like how the sport
has played. That's the that's the major problem. We don't
even we wouldn't even know where to start.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
I'll find the for Dummies book, We'll go through it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
I I definitely think that that handball is a sport
that I could the rugby kind of you know, just
stiff arm a couple guys get some shot, Like I
think I could do it. I do. I feel I'd
be I'd be great there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
I dig that in my younger days, I when I
visited Ireland a couple of weeks ago, the the Gaelic
football looked like something that, you know, kind of rugby ish,
you know, we talk about, you know, the innovations and
alterations to things that maybe a younger me, when I
still had my knees intact and the meat hadn't gotten me,

(01:30:42):
that maybe maybe I could have been that guy, Ryan Hollins.
You had some speed, you had, okay, So my dad
had ball, Yeah I had. I was pretty good in
the short burst, so I was a perfect offensive lineman
or working around the line of scrimmage, you know, as
a linebacker, or crashing crashing the the a and the

(01:31:02):
b gaps. Now beyond that. Now, now, if I got
to chase you down, it's gonna be a rough one.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
Yeah, let's put together a handball team.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
All right, let's go. Let's see if we can find
a sponsor.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
I never had the skill, but clearly volleyball I would
have been really good at that. I'm big and I can,
I'm mobile. That would have been a sport there built.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Seems like you would have gotten down to the beach
to do that a little bit while at UCLA.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Know, yeah, I just had zero skill when it comes
Oh okay, I have zero coordination. That could it would
be I mean I could probably block with the best
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
But wouldn't that have been good for you know, really
practicing you know, the lobs and throwing it down potentially.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Yeah, No, absolutely, I had some you know, it's a
basketball development. No, no, no, it translates. It definitely translates as.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
We go back to Budinger and his exploits a little
bit earlier. But yeah, some obile's not ruling it out. Look,
I'm always a very big proponent of if there is
still interested in you and they want to put the
the jersey on you or in this case, the the
country's logo and everything you want to have, your pin exchanges,

(01:32:13):
et cetera. And you think you've got another run in you,
why not run it out to its natural end? Right?
It's like for any athlete. Yeah, there are times where
all right, maybe it's time to be a backup, or
maybe you know father time has caught you. But until
they actually take the jersey away and the phone stops ringing,
I think I'd want to extend it as long as

(01:32:33):
I could.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Yeah. No, And here's the thing too. With a lot
of the Olympic athletes, you know they need support. But
I could assume for a guy like Chase Budding, Jermys
made you know, good money, and he's saying, hey, I
got time to train or play or like and you
know what for me, those in your two sport athlete,

(01:32:58):
that second sport is like your love, like you're fun,
Like basket was my love. But like like when I
like track and field, I did I did triple jump
and I was well, I guess clearly my bad. I
could have been an Olympic high jumper, but you know,
putting on a lot of weight, you know, I don't
think that that would have helped. That was probably two
hundred and ten pounds back the last time I did,

(01:33:21):
you know, high jumper, triple jump. But you know, I
would have been you know, hey, you could make it
to the Olympics, and it's like, well, I think the
NBA might be a little better, you know, but I was.
I was. You know, people saw that potential there and
you know, the the excitement.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
You know, well, I want to tie some own biles
and not hanging it up like that, you know, never
say never kind of commentary to a quote from a
quarterback still seeking a contract. A couple other guys got paid,
but some comments that I don't know that I necessarily
agree with on his side, but from simone files, maybe

(01:34:02):
a decision of to the larger picture, I'll make it
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(01:36:21):
together a bit someon biles, you know, talking about longevity
and potentially making a return for twenty eight in the
United States, and already we're seeing all the different plans
to implement in different facilities as they'll be implemented and such.
I wanted to tire to Dak Prescott the ongoing quarterback

(01:36:42):
contract negotiations, and we've heard maybe some offers being floated
to both he and CD Lamb. But Dak had spoken
about his contract and he threw in a line about
setting up the next to where I always hang a
star on that Ryan to a degree when it comes
to the NFL, etc. For Simone Biles, you know her

(01:37:06):
participation is a good thing for all of the sports,
and all of women's sports because the eyes, the brands
and everything associated that there's more people involved that way. Right,
when we talk about star power, we've looked at the
television ratings and certainly Lidecki and Biles, Shakari Richardson three

(01:37:27):
of the big names that really stand out and help
move the needle and certainly bring eyeballs and all of
those brand partners to the table. For Dak Prescott, when
we get to quarterback contracts, or we look at the
NBA and what might happen with the Knicks, right, Brunson
looking and deferring in theory is how it's termed all

(01:37:49):
that money to signed the new deal he did with
the Knicks, that maybe Julius Randall would follow suit. But
Dak Prescott, I go back to the old Tom Brady
model of all right, whether the money actually gets used
on other players, we can talk about if Patrick Mahomes
address that a bit. In the end, the machine of
what other quarterbacks are gonna get paid is not dependent

(01:38:09):
at all on what Dak Prescott's contract is at all. Hey,
can you do what Dak did?

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Okay, now what are we talking about in terms of contracts?
So I like it in theory. It's a nice thing
to say, but I don't think it's reality.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Yeah, if you're Dak, you gotta take your money and
you got to demand it. You gotta play hardball. That's
part of the NFL. And Jerry Jones, he knows Jay
Jones doesn't want to go in with the young a
young quarterback. He doesn't want to start over. So that's
in the favor of Dak. You know that that's something
that he can kind of, you know, hang his hat

(01:38:47):
on and and he's gonna get his money. And here's
the thing with Dak Prescott. No, maybe the wins haven't
been there, but as far as quarterback play, he can't
deny what he's done. There's there's not a lot out there.
And I tell you one thing. You know, if you're
going without quarterback or you're gonna try to see what
life is like without Dak, it ain't gonna be good.

(01:39:09):
And I don't think that Jerry is in a position
where he wants to start over. Otherwise he would have Well.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
It's always the fun part, right, You've got proof of
concept regular season and we can talk about postseason failure.
You still got to get there. You still got to
put up numbers, You still have to pile up wins.
And this is where it gets difficult. We extend that
out to coaches and what they do season to season. McCarthy.
I mean, you're talking twelve wins a year in the
regular season. But at the end of the day, much

(01:39:36):
like we've talked about with the men's national team, it's
about winning. Now. Not everybody's going to hoist a Super
Bowl trophy, but you got to at least extend into
the playoffs. Otherwise it's a well, that's fine and good.
How do we go from point B to point C.
I go back to old Marvin Lewis and what they
were doing in Cincinnati, right long, perennial, laughing doc bottom feeder,

(01:40:01):
kind of like my White Sox and baseball. Now, yeah,
I gotta take I gotta take the low hanging fruit,
all right, every day, Like when we've got Steve Desager
during the week with Smith and I. No matter where,
it's either at the start of the update or the end,
it's gonna be a dig and the White Sox like, yeah, okay, okay,
But that was the Bengals, And then they had a

(01:40:21):
run with our colleague TJ. Huschmanzada, Chad Ocho, Cinco, Rudy Johnson,
Carson Palmer where they got to the playoffs a couple
of times, but they never got over. So at some
point that hard decision of all right, is this the
guy or not has to be made, and certainly with
with Jerry we saw it with Jason Garrett. You know,
sometimes it goes a couple extra years. Quarterback position. Dak's

(01:40:44):
been there since twenty sixteen. It's had a tremendous run.
Playoff success hasn't been there. But to your point, where
else are you gonna go? You want to go back
into the draft, because not often do other free agent
quarterbacks come up unless their team is just they're done
and not worth the cash. Right it's you know, Kirk
Cousins situation doesn't happen a ton one of the greatest

(01:41:06):
businessmen in sports history. Books and movies will be made
about his life and his ability to pile up many,
many millions of dollars again, without grandiose playoff success, but
is a guy that is still desirable for Dak Prescott.
He may not be your cup of tea, But how
many guys are you really taking over him? If you
start going through the rankings and I'm not just talking

(01:41:27):
about the wishing and hoping of this guy is going
to be great, that's a pretty short list right now
in today's NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
Yeah, no, there there aren't many, and Dak knows it.
You know, when you start looking at the comparables and
the numbers, you know, the Dallas stands canna say, well,
we haven't won. But again when you start comparing Dak,
his numbers are there, their production is there. You cannot
deny it. So he's gonna get paid. And again, this

(01:41:58):
is not the air of quarterback play. We've been spoiled.
I mean for almost what like two decades, two decades
if we still had Tom Brady going up until you
know what a season ago. You know where you know
Dak Prescott is he's one of the guys. He's one
of the best, and he's he's going to command money
they cannot afford to move forward from him.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Yeah. The biggest thing, you know, for me was the
comment about I've got to look at you know what
it does for the next guy, because again I don't
think that's true. I don't think just because your name
becomes you're the highest on average quarterback for this week,
that's that's not gonna matter. You'll be supplanted very fast.
Whether you sign for a dollar, fifty or sixty million dollars,

(01:42:43):
your contract is inconsequential to what happens to other quarterbacks
and other teams. They are thirty two individually run businesses
under the NFL umbrella. The other fun is always when
we talk about salary cap of how much manipulation can
be done and change is made and money's moved around
to get you where you need to be. So anytime

(01:43:06):
a team cries poor, I just chuckle, because that means
you just need a little bit of creative accountants in
the room and a little bit of flexibility with the players,
and in the end they're better off because it usually
results in a much larger signing bonus and instant gratification,
which isn't that what we all want?

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
And here's the thing, let me know if you agree
with this. To me, this perfectly sums up Dak Prescott.
You're not gonna win with Dak, but you ain't gonna
lose with him. And if he's got a good run game,
the play actions working, the defense is doing their job,
you can win with them. You can win with them,
and you can't say that about every quarterback. So for

(01:43:51):
Dak Prescott, I think that he knows that his money
is gonna be there. There shouldn't you know, there shouldn't
be a question.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Well, and if it's not in Dallas, there'll be plenty
of other suitors. Right, there's a number of teams that
have drafted quarterbacks in the last two to three years,
and we see the life cycle getting shorter and shorter. Right,
We used to see you get to run out your
rookie contract. That's no longer the case, especially if you
don't translate it into a couple extra wins. So you're

(01:44:20):
back at the table and being able to draft in
a high position again. You can just shuffle up and deal,
but winning time certainly building time a little bit easier
when you're on those rookie deals. We go back to
the Russell Wilson model. Who's now being pressed. I know
he's in the pole position. Per Mike Tomlin there in
Pittsburgh despite missing some time, and everybody doing the oohs

(01:44:44):
and ohs of Justin Fields, no question about it. The
other thing that bears watching, Tyreek Hill restructured his contract
ninety million dollar deal guarantees him sixty five million dollars
over the next three seasons. So right alongside Dak, you've
got Cedee Lamb sitting there going all right, when do
you get to cut me off a check? You want
to get back to work and winning, don't you? Don't you?

(01:45:07):
I love it, I mean I love how the feet
gets put to the fire here with the restructurings and
just the pinball like numbers because you know, like we were
talking about before, we see the headlines, right, we see
the the dollars, and especially now a lot of emphasis
on what the guarantees are because players are getting a

(01:45:28):
lot more guaranteed up front, not not a lot of
a ton of fully guaranteed deals. We're not NBA like
or Major League Baseball like, but we're starting to see
more giant cash payouts earlier. And then we'll get to
the next CBA and perhaps that that grows and that
those are some of the fighting points along with the

(01:45:49):
health plans and everything else moving forward, but curiosity out
of the NFL, no question about it. Injuries and contracts,
the two things were really walking in the preseason. Not
to mention the depth charts. Don't worry. Fantasy stuff is
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(01:46:12):
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We can go to our man who's on the scene,
who's been watching everything head on his swivel. It's Isaac
Loewenkron at the news desk, and he's very attentive to

(01:46:32):
one individual competition what he got going on there.

Speaker 8 (01:46:36):
Ava That is the final at men's golf, where Scotty
Scheffler has just essentially clenched the gold medal. He shot
an incredible nine under par sixty two in the final
round today. He is in the clubhouse at nineteen under
par overall. Tommy Fleetwood, who was eighteen under par overall

(01:46:57):
one shot back, had one last gasp attempt to tie
Scheffler and force a three hole playoff with a shot
from thirty four yards out. He missed it just seconds ago,
So Scotty Scheffler has essentially clinched the gold medal in
men's golf. All that remains to make it official John

(01:47:18):
Rahm would need to have a hole in one on
the par four eighteenth hole, but assuming there is theoretically
a chance. But for all intents and purposes, Scotty Scheffler
has just won the gold medal in men's golf at
the Olympics again with an incredible nine under sixty two
in the final round.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Today.

Speaker 8 (01:47:37):
The US women's basketball team and Germany are tied at
nineteen with eight minutes and forty eight seconds left to
play and counting in the second quarter. The US women's
team's final game of group play. Novak Djokovic won the
gold medal in men's tennis today with a seven to
six to seven to sixth victory over Carlos Alkaraz, Djokovic's

(01:47:57):
first career gold medal. Earlier today, the US women's volleyball
team swept France three sets to none to finish group
play with a record of two and one and to
advance to the quarterfinals and John Raum indeed did not
make all on the par for eighteen, so it's official.
Scotty Scheffler has won the gold medal in men's golf

(01:48:21):
at the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
Fellows back to you, not that I want Scheffler to lose,
but wouldn't a whole one one be you know, the ultimate,
you know, second place finish? All right, we were talking
about down distance, margin of victory. Oh the guy had
to have an ace on eighteen to beat me. Crazy.
Thanks Ilo at Isaac Lowencron where you find him in

(01:48:42):
the Twitter verse. Outside of that whole arrest and chaos
all those those weeks ago for Scottie Scheffler back at
the PGA Championship, Ryan Hollins, been a hell of a
year for him.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
Yeah. Absolutely, And wait a way to cap things off,
that's pretty special.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Yeah, just insane, but great images coming out of the
the golf competition as they finish off the day US
women's team, as Ilo said, up and going against Germany.
Here's a quote that I thought I'd run past you
real quick. That Well, let's see what your take is
on it, Tony Parker. In addition to you know, whatever

(01:49:22):
that run was during the opening ceremonies, hobbled knees, or
just speed walking like he was in the mall. I'm
not sure he compared Victor wembin Yama to Lebron James quote,
he's not bothered by the pressure or the expectation. There's
a conversation with Yahoo. He's a bit like Lebron. The
only one who compared is so much expectation before his

(01:49:45):
arrival Lebron James and Victor. The way he played his
rookie season with the Spurs, he was unbelievable and so
I hope it translates to a lot of championships with
Spurs and translates to a lot of medals for French basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
Tony's the way off by it. If you hear Wimby talk,
he has this like maturity and you know, much like
I don't know if people really know, like since Lebron
was like fourteen or fifteen years old, like he was
being groomed to be Lebron, he was playing pickup. I
spoke with Ron our Tests on the podcast, and you

(01:50:20):
know he talked about Lebron was sixteen years old, running
the NBA guys at the runs and he's playing pick
up against these all stars and he was going pound
for pound with them and everybody was freaking out. So
the NBA world new and was grooming Lebron before he
got to that scene, much like Victor wimbin Yama. You know,
the French in the NBA had identified Okay, this this

(01:50:42):
kid is an unbelievable talent. So it's his rookie year, yes,
but he'd been prepared, he'd been playing at the level.
He'd been seeing guys and you know we've been seeing
we're the last to kind of see the clips and
the highlights and going okay, this don't this don't look right,
but you know everybody else do. Tony saying he knew.
And that's why Wimby is come in with this like maturity.

(01:51:05):
You know, you don't see him, you know, necessarily trying
to figure things out. He's kind of like, yeah, I
got a job to do.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
But you know what, it's also you go to the
right fit in terms of a coach, right, that's gonna
help in terms of that transition. Not to take any
away from what he's done personally and the growth and
development to get to this point, but you know, you
want to be dropped into the Spurs or someplace with
stability rights as a young player with those kind of expectations,

(01:51:35):
because you know a lot of that noise is going
to get muted as best it can.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
Yeah, and beyond stability, you know there's a track record there,
all right, there's a track record. Pop Pop knows who
he is. They know who they are, and it's right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
It's not a young coach trying to find his way
or you know, he's going to pin his hopes on
what Victor Wembin Yahama becomes like his entire career, No Pop,
Scott is his history with Parker and those guys, that
legacy being secured. But yeah, the maturity beyond the years,
sure you recognize that. I mean, look, Luka Dacas, you

(01:52:10):
know to a similar degree, was a guy internationally right
years in playing playing with bron ass Men before he
came to the NBA. Is there still some learning to
be done? Is Michael Finley still the blame for their collapse? Yes?
He is. That's right. Shouldn't have taken the beer, Finley.

(01:52:31):
He's Ryan Hollins. I'm by Carmen Fox Sports Sunday, Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
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(01:52:56):
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Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you podcast. You'll see this
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we close out. We had a great return in the
sports entertainment world yesterday and many storyline flops. Yeah, it
got me interested. And then a quote of the day
coming out of the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies, we

(01:53:18):
mentioned Julius Peppers before he gave you one for the road,
and we'll talk about it next here on Fox Sports Radio.
Welcome back in Fox Sports or Radio. Fox Sports Sunday
Mike Harman alongside Ryan Hollins, live from the tyrac dot

(01:53:38):
Com Fox Sports Radio studios at the Ryan Hollins where
you find them on Twitter Find me over at swallendme.
I'm just kind of getting down to this beat. Now
I'm gonna carry this into the day and then there's
gonna be a bunch of action montages and really it's
me just making coffee. But if we do stop motion,
I'll look like I'm, you know, Jason Statham getting ready
to kick somebody's butt. There we go, and you know what,

(01:54:03):
you know, it all comes out of my watching of
Summer Slam yesterday and a bit of boxing, uh mixed therein.
I got a little bit of both in, but certainly
uh Summer Slam, you know, a lot of turns and
factions divided and the return of Roman reigns, which is
always good for business.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
Cool stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Well, and it was out of Cleveland, So Cleveland getting
a little bit of celebration, as it were, from the
Miz one of the all time greats and one of
the few in the sports world. I can connect with
my older daughter through why because he was part of
all of those competitions on MTV, the Challenge and road
Rules and all of that stuff. Yeah, right, that's where

(01:54:45):
he got a lot of his run I forget which
the Big Brother or one of those as well, So
she she knows him from that world, and so then
I can say, well, you know what, we kind of
know him friend of friends is in the wrestling world.
So there you go, and she just looks at me
like I'm nuts. And then you take her to a

(01:55:05):
live event because I got to take her to WrestleMania,
So she's sold. She likes the women's division, so she's
a little salty that Bailey lost. But you know what,
you gotta tell a story. You gotta keep telling the story.
So that in the background as well, we've got Germany
and the US US now up ten with three minutes
remaining in the second quarter, so exhibiting a little bit

(01:55:27):
of dominance and distance here as it were. We talked
a little bit about the Hall of Fame earlier, and
I do get the website and you know that needs
to be retooled, and that's the find your Wins. But
Julius Pepper's in his Hall of Fame speech not only
given the nod to Michael Jordan, who was in attendance.
I mean, how great is that? Like I'd like to

(01:55:47):
thank my family, I'd like to thank all my coaches. Oh,
by the way, there's my guy, Michael Jordan's sitting over there.
That's the guy that got me to Chapel Hill. That's
pretty good thing. He also gave us some words to
live by.

Speaker 4 (01:56:01):
Now I'm going to close with what being a Hall
of Famer means to me. It's not about how many
touchdowns you scored or how many Super Bowl rings you have,
even though those things are nice. It really comes down
to who you are to core and what's in your heart.
Are you resilient, Do you stand tall in the face
of adversity when things get tough or do you quit?
Do you acknowledge other people's contributions to your success or

(01:56:24):
do you make it all about you. Being a Hall
of Famer is one of my crown and achievements, but
it extends far beyond pro football. It extends to my family,
and it extends to my daily life. Everyone can't play
in the NFL, and everyone can't have a bus hend
can but everyone can be a Hall of Famer in
your own life. You can be a Hall of Fame dad,

(01:56:46):
a Hall of Fame student, teacher, spouse, coworker, friend, whatever
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (01:56:52):
That you do, do it with respect, integrity, passion, resilience, dedication,
and gratitude. That alone would make you a Hall of
Fame person and you too can have a legacy that
lives on forever. Thank you and God bless there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
Since we are on a Sunday morning, there's a little
bit of preaching from the pulpit, So go on and
do great things for yourself and others. But since it
is Sports Talk Radio, Ryan Hollins, you know, it is
that positivity of becoming a Hall of Famer that I
wanted to make sure we spotlighted because it takes a
lot of people to get you to where you are,
whatever your chosen profession. So all of you out there globally,

(01:57:30):
thank you for listening and being part of the extended
family here at Fox Sports Radio. We certainly do appreciate it.
Evangelize your local affiliate and the iHeartRadio app. You can
take us wherever you go off for that hike to
from services and whatever else. But Ryan, I mean all
those folks that you know helped him get there. I
love the shout out to Michael Jordan as part of it,
because I'm about to, you know, make it to heal.

(01:57:53):
Turn to one last story from the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
Yeah no, no, that's big time, and man, that was
a of a Hall of Fame class there that they
had and man Peppers was a dog man. And those
that don't know, yeah, he came in on the basketball
side too. He could really really play. And you know he,
Julius Pepper, is one of the greatest athletes that we've

(01:58:16):
ever seen any sport. And you go, look at a
man six seven, could move, could jump, could run. You
probably could have placed them anywhere in sporting. He would
have had success. Look one of my favorite athletes, I
tell you that much, and trust me. For MJ to
come out, that's said a lot. And the longevity with
his career, Peppers was a no question, you know, Hall

(01:58:39):
of Fame, but one of my favorite guys.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
Well, you know me, I like to latch onto guys
that have some success in my city, or at least
a cup of coffee, you know, Ken Griffy Junior White
Sox Hall of Famer, Julius Peppers Bears Hall of Famer.
It's my weekend, McMichael Devin Hester. Wait because you know what,
at least for a day, I was at the block
out the damn White Sox all right. Last thing. The

(01:59:03):
South sudan As an organization they're calling Shenanigans on the
Olympic officiating and everything else after a loss to Serbia,
saying that they were a hoodwinked. Basically, thirty one free
throws we shot six. I was coach ivy after the game.
He was not happy that, saying that Nikola Jokic and

(01:59:26):
the Serbian squad got preferential treatment all the way down
to the coaches and the coaches box.

Speaker 3 (01:59:32):
Hey man, shout out to Royal. I'll be seeing him
this year. He was a static, did a great job,
and you got to demand that respect he's doing. He's
doing the right thing. And you know what an Olympic officiating,
especially in a sport like basketball, it will change the
dynamic of the game. So he's gonna have to fight
for his guys. Man, that's part of the coaching aspect.

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
It's almost like the ref knows them. It's okay if
the refs know certain players, let them play their style,
as soon as our guys play their style. Getting files
every time. He's very salty, very salty, and now saying, hey,
we need to change up how efficient officials are chosen
in the whole nine yards. Ryan Hollands calling for an
upheaval to the Olympic structure. I like it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
No, everybody I was doing right. I don't mind it.
Let's see it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
There you go. He's Ryan Hollins. I'll buy a carbon
Coming up next Dan Byer Carry Road. Take you through
this Olympic Sunday. Talk to you next week

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