August 13, 2024 • 39 mins
Episode 101 of 'The Book of Joe' Podcast continues with Jerry Seinfeld asking Joe Maddon and Tom Verducci his baseball questions! Jerry is curious about nightly baseball routines and wants to know who our hosts see in the World Series. Comparing baseball to comedy, Jerry reveals some of the pitfalls he avoided and how he kept his career on track. We wrap our conversation with the comedy icon in the latest episode of 'The Book of Joe'.
The Book of Joe Podcast is a production of iHeart Radio.
#fsr
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Book of Joe Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey Darren, welcome back.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's The Book of Joe Podcast with me, Tom Berducci,
and Joe Madden and our special guest, it's Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
The part of it that I found interesting, I really
felt he was just going to be died in a
woole traditionalist right. But he actually showed some progressive thinking
in some areas and kind of forced me to reach
into my bag there and start talking about the way
I see things, which was kind of interesting. I really
(00:45):
like the exchange a lot. You have to know what
you believe in, but you also have to be open
to something that you think or may believe is slightly
better than what you had thought in the past.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now it's time for Jerry to turn the tables, and
Jerry starts asking us questions.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Let me ask both of you guys to answer this
question that I know know your fans would love to hear.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I would like to hear from each of you.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What is your basic night league baseball routine? What do
you do TV wise in your life in the summer?
Speaker 6 (01:18):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
This is when I'm not at the ballpark? Correct I'm home,
not at of course, I am a channel surfer. I
love the MLB Dot TV app, and I'm going in
and out of games myself. I'm my own director. This
is going to strike you as Jerry. But I did
grow up a Mets fan. My father's cousin was married
(01:41):
to Gil Hodges. We all grew up Mets fans. But
when I got in this business, i just started rooting
for good baseball game.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So I'm never disappointed.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So when I'm when I got all and I got
seven eight games going on, I love jumping around to
each game. I never want to see a commercial. That's
my goal for the evening. No commercials live baseball throughout.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
We are as opposite this can be.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I watch a Met game, I watch every WB Mason commercial,
every ambulance chasing lawyer commercial.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
And I never turned it off no matter what the
score is.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
And I'm completely different. You know, I'm here in the
summer in Pennsylvania. This is like my second year I
think without doing this, maybe two and a half without
actually being involved.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So I sit down.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I'm pretty much active all day doing whatever, playing golf
or fixing around the house or taking care of the tomatoes.
Whatever it might be. But I do that all day.
But then it's time to sit down and have dinner.
I put David Muran, I go right to at six
thirty it's ABC News, and then I like him. I
like his delivery. And then after that, after that it's like,
I'll watch the Phillies because I know a lot of
(02:53):
the Phillies and I like the Phillies.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I like the charismatic component of that team.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I watch the Yankees only because again they're the Yankees,
and it's interesting. And I read the New York the
only paper. It is a new post every day. That's
my source of news. So I read that every day,
and so it's there. It's the best, and and Jill
Sherman best. So I'll do those two things. And then
will I will fade in and out of games.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I will peruse.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I will peruse a thought that comes to my head
right now, poxying a floor in my greenhouse. I'll go
to that as an example. How many time coachs I
have to put on? How long does it need to dry?
But I'll be all over the map. I just don't
sit there and Jones on a game all night long.
I don't think I've watched the game first of the
ninth inning complete, and I can't even tell how many
(03:38):
years I don't so like even like when I've got
to talk to Tommy. When I got to talk to Tommy,
You're like, do other gigs. I mean, I have to
catch up a little bit. But I rely on everything
I've done in the past, and I rely on a
New York Post primarily, and that's it. And then I
wake up and I get up about five thirty in
the morning, and I'm ready to roll and do it again.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
So what are you looking at doing now, Joe? Are
you happy with what you're doing now or are you
looking around?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm pretty happy with what I'm doing right now. Honestly,
this podcast helps a lot. Keeps me connected. I do
once a week on MLB Network with Brian Kenny. That
keeps me connected. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it again.
I would do it again with the right group. And
I've said this publicly. I need somebody to be a
partner with and not somebody to try to control everything
(04:23):
you do. I'm into owners being owners. I'm into gms
being GMS, managers being managers and coaches and scouts being
coaches and scouts. I don't think that's what's happening. And
I also believe that a lot of the fund's been
subtracted from the clubhouse to the field because too much.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Of it's being controlled.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So I need somebody that's willing to balance things a
little bit better. I listen, I'm all. I love analytics,
I love numbers. I love to morph them together with
all the experience I've had and all the knowledge I've
gained over the years that I've done this, But just
don't give me a print sheet and tell me to
follow this and just totally be void of everything I've
learned at this point, because that's pretty much what's gone to.
(05:02):
So if I could find that person and it really
wants to create a marriage and let me manage and
absolutely collaborate, that's what I would look for.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Could I have a Pennant prediction from each of you guys?
Who do you like to win the al Pennant NL Pennant?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Good, Tommy, I'm going to stick with my preseason pick, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I don't want to get off at this stage basically
because I don't like to travel a whole lot. Phillies
and Orioles, Philadelphia and Baltimore's.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm going to stick with that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I'm a little bit concerned about Baltimore these days because
the Yankees now haven't got their acting gear again. But
I'm going to stick with Philadelphia Baltimore. How about you, Joe,
It's it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean, I had it.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
That's exactly where I was at with the whole thing.
Brandon Hyde, Jerry's my former bench coach. I really have
a lot of faith in him. I love the way
he does things there. I like the youth with that
team and the depth, so I think they're going to
be there to the very end. And the Phillies, like
I said, I think they're a bunch of tough guys.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I like tough guys.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I like guys, and I think the Philly's alumni are
a bunch of tough guys. And I like the fact
that they're around the city. You have to be somewhat
firm in your conviction in order to deal with that daily.
So I like that too. Tommy, and we had not
rehearsed this at all. I liked Phillis Orioles.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Okay, I'll take Dodgers, Yankees soo Fox, Jerry, sood Fox.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's right, That's right, hey, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
One of the things we love talking about on this
podcast has been glue. Guys, you know the chemistry of
a unit and how it works. And you know, a
while back on we had Max Weinberg, the drummer of
the Bruce springste and the Eastreet Band, and he talked
about how, you know, as successful as they were, why
it worked and worked for so long, which you don't
(06:49):
see a lot in bands these days for sure. With
your group being together with the show for so long,
what do you think what was the glue to that group,
whether it was a person, whether it was a vibe,
what made it work as a team.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
M Well, I guess that would probably land in my
lap because I was the only guy who worked with
all the actors and all the writers every day. I
would rehearse all morning into the afternoon with the actors
and then starting at like two or three, it was
in the writer's room and we'd be writing till we
(07:27):
you know, till we ran out of guess, so that
was really my job to try and keep everybody happy.
And I just kind of have an even keel way
of going about things that you'd be surprised a lot
of people when they have their own show, they really
have trouble doing that. They start to act out, they
(07:48):
start to you know, it's the most boring story in
the world. But you know, but we never stopped seeing it.
Of things going to people's heads and they're not playing
the game. They they know they can play it. To me, ego, narcissism,
(08:09):
these are the most dangerous things. I have three kids,
and I talk to them about it. I've been watching this.
Netflix has got some great shows now. They do a
show on receivers. They do a show on sprinters that
I'm watching now. I've always been obsessed with sprinters and
watching how they go about their work and how they
(08:30):
handle success. Handling money and success, I would say, is
the trickiest part of any.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Of these professions.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
You know, you win the one hundred meters, your life
changes overnight, and it's this and I kind of went
through that in comedy. I was lucky that my success
came very, very gradually, even on the TV series. It
was so gradual. We were doing the show three and
a half four years. We were one of the lowest
rated shows on TV. So by the time people even
(09:00):
noticed it was on, we were really good, get totally
gelled as a writing staff and as a troop of actors,
and so people never saw our growing pains. Joe of
course has because he watches every episode.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I do, I got it, but even the looks my god.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
So so that you know, and I talk to the
kids about this, you know, they all want. Everybody wants
to make it. You know, everybody wants to hit it.
The money. People know who I am, they know what
I'm doing. No one tells them. You got to be
careful at that moment when the money. I'll never forget
when NBC said to us, you can spend any amount
(09:39):
of money you want on making these shows.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
And I was lucky enough.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I don't know where I got the head, but I
knew that's dangerous, that's dangerous. Being funny with no money
is the way to do it. And suddenly when you
can afford anything, and you know, this is why I
am not as much of I don't these teams that
(10:04):
try and buy it, and I think we've seen the
perils of trying to buy it, and they all do it.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
They can't resist.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So not getting carried away when something starts to work
and sticking to your process, your method, your system, and
ignoring results. I know, Joe, you've probably been saying this
your whole life is the process forget the results. It's
very zen, it's very stoicism. That was how we did
(10:33):
it on the show.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
No, my car was the first one there and the
last one gone every night. Me and Larry, our cars
were there every weekend, Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
And everybody knew it.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Everybody knew it, and so they don't mess with you,
and they listen to you, and they know you're working
harder than anybody and that you get that respect.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
That's my version of the glue. That's my version of it.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You're just describing the minor leagues. It's incredible you just
said and how you said it. I mean, as you're
taking me through all those different years in Idaho Falls,
in Salem, Oregon, and Middland, Texas, and all the things
that you've learned along the way, you stash it away
and then a moment pops up and all of a sudden,
you have these different experiences.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
To draw in.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And by being able to have that experience to drawn
it permits you to react in the situation, or you
recall something and you're able to apply it immediately to
what you're doing at that moment. I love that, the
fact that you've earned it. Having said all that, it's
a question I wrote down before we even started, because
it happened to me, and I think it happens to
anybody that becomes somewhat successful.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
There's got to be a.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Point where you might have questioned the direction you're going
in or is this going to really work?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Do I need to look for something differently?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I know that my crossroads came in Boulder, Colorado in
nineteen eighty and I had a chance to go, like
to go to Europe, to go to Italy to play
some ball and have a good time and whatever. But
I chose to stick around and eventually I got a
job with the Angels.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Really interesting, and after this break, we need to talk
to Jerry about how did he avoid the outside noise
and how did he keep the show Seinfeld fresh for
so many years.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
We'll do that right after this Welcome Back. It's the
Book of Joe podcast with our guest Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And Jerry, can you think back in pinpoint one moment
where you kept your show, Seinfeld got a back on track,
a key point in the success of that show.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yes, when I was in the mid eighties, I was
on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson three or four
times a year. I was on David Letterman several times
a year, and I was doing comedy clubs, which was
kind of the big thing of the eighties. But nothing
else was happening, and I kind of felt that I
had plateaued and that was it. It was never going
(13:06):
to go anywhere, and I did feel some frustration then, and.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Even though honestly stand up was the.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Only thing I ever really wanted to do, everything else
I've done in my career was somebody else's idea that
I just tried to pull off as best I could.
Even the TV series was not my idea. It was
my managers and Larry and I came up with it.
And then I just thought, well, I don't know how
to do this, but luck but Larry didn't know how
to do it either, so that was fun that we
(13:35):
both figured it out and we said, let's just do
this the way we want, even though nobody else.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Does it this way.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
But yeah, in the mid eighties, there were in my thirties,
I was kind of giving up and I just thought, well,
I might as well just get married to start having
some kids. This is nothing's ever really going to happen here.
And yeah, I wobbled a little bit at that point,
and then before I knew it, I was off.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
On that other thing you said, the way we wanted
I love that, the way you and I already wanted
to do it. That's so important, I think, to to
like a real high level of a success where you're
not interfered with, nobody got in the way of your
greatness kind of. I mean, that's one thing that I
Tommy and I talk about often. I think the way
the game structured sometimes and everybody's trying to be the
same guy. You just don't know if you're inhibiting greatness
(14:21):
or not. But the fact and kind of what I
was talking about when you asked me what I wanted
to do.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
The way we wanted to do it.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Now, I'm not saying it to the point like it's again,
that's not a narcissistic comment. It's just you've you've you've learned,
and you've you have an idea in your mind's eye
how to get this thing done, what works, what doesn't work,
and and to have it interfered with could be you know,
it could really mess with the process. And furthermore, then
you start creating some doubt with in your own mind.
You got to do, you got to go out there,
You got to go out there and do some crazy stuff,
(14:50):
because you have to be a little bit crazy to
be great.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I think.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
So it's wonderful to hear that, just that little phrase
the way we want it, I think to me, I
think if you talk to most really successful people, you're
here at some point where they arrived at that kind
of a crossroads, and they follow their own instincts. They
followed their own compass in order to become whatever they became,
as opposed to trying to rely on everybody else always
to tell them what to do.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah, I'll tell you what the big turn was if
we did We had done the show a couple of seasons,
and NBC and everybody watching said, boy, Jerry and Julia
Louis Dreyfuss really have a nice chemistry. Why don't we
put them together as a couple. And they put tremendous
pressure on Larry and I to put Jerry and Elane
together as a couple. Let's have them day, let's have
them get married. And Larry and I knew that is
(15:35):
not the road to comedy because the show was not
about that.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
It was about we were both single. That was the
world we knew.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And four Dysfunctional Singles is going to be funnier than
a couple. You know, there were lots of shows with
couples and they they turned the screws on us with that,
and we said, sorry, but we're not going to do
it because we don't think it's funny awesome. We don't
think couples are funny. I still don't think I could.
I could write a show about being married now having
(16:04):
been married, but anyway, that was kind of a turning
point where we said, no, this show is about jokes.
It's about funny situations. It's not about how does this couple?
You know, it's not a romantic show. But the only
question I would like to I love that George.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Will baseball book men at work.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I think one of the things we all love about
baseball is you get to see how a guy goes
about his work, and I think we relate to that.
We're interested and entertained by it, we think, well, I
wouldn't go about it that way. Tom, Sure, I know
you remember in the twenty fifteen World Series when the
crowd was chanting to get Matt Harvey to go out
(16:43):
for the ninth and I have to admit I was
also cheering. I think it was we want mad or
something like that, we want Harvey.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It was a great moment.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
But Tom, the moment was as soon as Terry lets
him go back out and he sprints to the mound,
and I knew it was over right then, because that's
not your process.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, as it turned out, you're hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I had said on the air, because I'm doing the
game of Fox that I understand him going back out,
But the minute anybody gets on base, he has to
come out of the game, right, because then you're really
stressed out, you know, getting in a stretch position. He
had surgery of the year before, you know, he's deep
into an innings county he probably shouldn't have had anyway,
Now you're deep into this game, World Series all that,
(17:32):
the minute somebody's on base, you got to get him out.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
But the question I want to get to Joe is
what guys do you think back on in your career,
who's approach to the work was something that impressed you
and you admired.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Wow, there's honestly, Joe, there's a lot of guys that's
That's the one thing about professional of.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Course, there's got to be a time.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, I I could go back. I mean, I could
go back to my angel days.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Darren Nurstadt was one of the best or most complete
professionals ever met. Nobody worked harder than Ersty, nobody had
he had everybody's respect. I meanan is he he had
that that look. He didn't have to say a word,
but his look would just undress you. You know, like
so if a player got out of line a little bit,
he would just he would just give him the thirsty
look and you're done.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
You a message delivered. You know, you got it and
you straightened out. So, I mean, Ersty was really one
that I really respected regarding how he worked and how
and how hard he worked and how smartly he worked. Also,
uh more recently, you know, oh Tawny really I got him.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I'm gonna jump Oh, I mean, my god.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
The thing that everybody was critical of Showy because he
didn't do a lot of work on the field, but
he does all kinds of work off the field, and nobody.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Can be more prepared.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
I mean, you talk about the game as it is
right now, and there's others talking about attempting to do
both pitch and hit. My god, it's hard enough to
do that when you're in high school in college where
you play three or four days a week, let alone
professionally on a nightly basis where okay, he pitches one,
but then he doesn't take days off to hit. He pitches,
(19:08):
he goes right back into hitting, or he hits.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
The day before.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
When I first got there, there was a tawny rules
based on he had. You couldn't you couldn't have him
hit the day before he pitched. He could not hit
the day that he pitched, and you could not hit
the day after he pitched. You're losing him three out
of you know, every six days, you're not You can't
even play the guy as a pitcher as a hitter,
and I never liked that. But in order to do that,
he makes it look so easy. He's that strong his
(19:33):
work ethic, and you're talking about the mind. It's all
the stuff that he does on the mental side. Of
things because he's absolutely calm in the moment. The guy's
never too quick, he's never out of control. He always
knows exactly what he wants to do, and he runs,
he runs base. He wants to steal bases on top
of that. So I mean, I'm going to go from
ersty all the way to show hey as being some
(19:55):
really impressive athletes that just went after it right.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Interesting and Jerry, for me, I'm going to give you
something and I'm curious if there's a stand up equivalent
to this. Derek Jeter was the most routine oriented person,
and people in baseball talk about that a lot. This
season is such a grind. You need a routine. You
want to keep things as even as possible, right and
not ride the highs and low so you kind of
arrange your life in a very routine manner.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
He used an a limited bat in high school.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Drafted out of high school, they send him to Tampa,
the Yankees minor League complex. Right after he's drafted, he's
going to use a wood bat for the first time.
He goes to this rack of bets and tries to
find a bat that is most like the metal bat
he used in high school, he picks it out from
that day till his last day in the big leagues.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Derek Jeter never.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Changed that model of batow. Every one of his three
thousand plus hits with the same model bet the same
infielders glove hit off a tee every single day. So
you've talked a lot, and I really like this comparison
to about the grind of a baseball player and how
you respect and admire and relate to what it takes.
(21:05):
I mean, we're talking about a sport where you make
a mistake, they literally put it in lights on the scoreboard.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That's an error, right.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, Well, I can tell you there's very few professions.
I don't know if you can name another profession other
than mine. When when I make a mistake, it's the
same thing. The entire room goes silent and everybody knows
that wasn't supposed to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's tough.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah, So comedians are judged, you know, every twelve seconds
we get a rating, and so you can never not
be present. Nobody cares about your reputation or your accomplishments.
They paid seventy five bucks and I want to laugh tonight.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
And that's the job.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
That's why that airline pilot screws you up. Man. That
was so good.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
That was a true story.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
It was yeah, no way, it.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Was Oh my gosh, that's funny. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Hey, Jerry, I got to ask you.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
This is Joe's a great collector of cars as well.
You talked about the baseball bug and when you got that,
what about the cars? When did the car bug hit you?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
There was a kid next door to me when I
was about four years old that had a tractor with
a steering wheel and pedals, and I used to go
over and just knock on the door and ask the
parents could I borrow the tractor. Eventually they went came
to my parents' house and I said, would you please
buy him one of these so he will stop waking
(22:32):
us up every morning. So my father he goes, he
buys one. We had this black and white Plymouth station wagon.
He pulls into the driveway with the tractor in the
back of the driveway. He puts the car in park,
he turns around. I'm on the tractor in the back
of the station wagon before the car came to a stop.
(22:53):
So it was I don't know what the hell that is?
That's a that's just a strand of DNA. I don't
know what the hell it is.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I just cars.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I just I drove with my son yesterday. We took
two cars out from the city out to the east
end of Long Island. We spent eleven hours driving just
for fun of it.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Wow, what did you drive? What did you drive?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
We drove the new Porsche de Car, you know, this
new off road nine to eleven that they've done.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I haven't seen it, have not seen it.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
It's amazing. And we also drove a GT four RS,
which is a Porsche came in very track focused car,
so kind of the opposite ends of the spectrum. One
is for the dirt and one is for the racetrack.
And so those were the two cars we drove.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Seminole Chevy Guy I got in the garage. I got
a fifty six and a seventy. I got a fifty six.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Bell are in the seventy two Chevelle right out there
right now. I love it.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Seventy two, three ninety six.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
No, it's a three fifty. It's all redone. It's a
fuel inject it runs great. It's a six speed treming transmission.
It's a convertible too, and I love it. But the
fifty six bell Air really goes. I'm getting new tires
and wheels on it.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
A couple of days. I wanted to.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I want to make that my daily driver, you know
what I mean? Why just keep that in the garage
all the time. This sucker goes. He's got good air conditioning,
I got a great stereo system.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I want to drive this thing.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
So I'm an old Chevy guy.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
The way I look at it, j other, they're putting
miles on me. Why not put miles on the cut exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's the Book of Joe Podcast with our special guest
Jerry Seinfeld. Hey, Jerry, I asked Joe about this all
the time. Obviously, he loves his cars. He loves the
roar of the engine, the smell of the gas. I
do talk about electric cars, though, and I get a
different vibe from him.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And I know you're a Porsche guy.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, And they've got Porsche does a new car out
electric vehicle, the take Can is out, which is kind
of an interesting name in and of itself.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But would you drive one? Would you drive an electric Porsche?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
No?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I haven't driven one yet, but maybe someday I will.
But uh, you know, I'm into the tiny explosions.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I'm with you, there's no argument. I'm with you hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
These cars. You know, you could there's a lot of
ecological arguments they but that's not the subject of this podcast.
You could make. You know, a well maintained internal combustion
car can actually have less impact on the environment than
the lithium mining that they have to do for these batteries.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You know, that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Listen, I want to hear my car. I don't want
to just sit there quietly. I want to hear my
and I guess right now they're actually, uh do there's
some kind of an app or whatever they do that
you there, they as you're driving an electric vehicle, that
there's a vehicle noise somehow.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Yeah? They haven't flavorable six dolls too. Now, Joe, I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Know, I've heard about that. I'll check that out from
my boxes from.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
The same company.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And Joe, where do you have your car stored? Our
audience really should hear the story about this?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, well, I'm in PETSIL know, Jerry, I'm in Northeastern PA.
And I got like nine eight or seven eight nine cars.
So I need a place to store them. So I
found a eighteen ninety nine firehouse up in Wookesboro, and
so it's it's awesome. It's really in great shape. So
I stored them up there, and there's there's room to
make this more complete, like upstairs with the old fireman
(26:24):
used to dress in everything where they used to keep
the hate for the horses, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
But I love going up there.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I go up there and I got them all stashed away,
and there he looked them, look at them all at once.
But it's pretty cool to own an eighteen ninety nine firehouse,
fire station number five in Wookesboro, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Wow, that is that is great? Love it, Tom. What
is your hobby besides baseball?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I like word puzzles, word games, and I love golf.
Joe and I talked a lot about golf. I love golf.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Okay, do you play golf?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do you played all? Jerry? Do you play golf at all?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
No?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Do you know my golf joke, Tom? No?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
It stands for get out leave family.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
For four plus hours?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right, Well, one of My great accomplishments in life is
convincing my wife to play golf. Wow, so that's the
secret to happy golf where you don't feel guilty leaving family. Well, Jerry,
you had mentioned I think at one point somebody asked
you about in retirement or you brought up the idea
that the ideal retirement is watching a baseball game every day.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I don't know if you meant that hyperbole or not,
but it's it's a pretty good way to kick.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Back people talk about these shows. Did you see this show?
That show?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I haven't seen any of the shows. I'm watching W. B.
Mason commercials and I just feel at peace. There is
something when the game is on and I'm just sitting
there there there is a serenity that I feel that
then that nothing else gives me.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Serenity now, all right, sendity now?
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Yeah. I love it more and more.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
And you know, it's watching the teams operate, watching the
players operate, just watching people work at this very difficult
thing and the frustration and them handling the emotions of it.
I'm always impressed with these announcers that you know that
they love the team. Well, you think they do and
(28:25):
how they don't let the emotion get the better of
them when things go badly and they just tell you
it's a Grand Slam and that's the end of that game.
And they're pretty amazing. The Mets Booth is a fantastic
group of guys.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Great Booth, Gary Teeth and Ron. They do a great job.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Great Booth.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't know if art imitates life, but there was
a one episode in sidefeld Well where Kramer spoiled the
ending of a Mets game that you had taped.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Are you the pilot episode? Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I love that bit.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I'm not sure whether you're devoing or DVR or whatever
it is to gains, but you're I'm assuming watching them live.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Yeah, no, good.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I like what Jerry. This has been a real pleasure
to me. I can tell, and I've known for years
that you're a true baseball fan, and I think that
resonates with people. And I love talking to you about
the game of baseball because I know it's coming from
such a genuine place.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So really appreciate you coming on here.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
The only thing we didn't talk about and I know
Joe you don't know about this, or Tom you might
know about it. If you guys saw my ceremonial first
pitch on July fifth, twenty nineteen, at City Field.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I did it. I missed it. Strike strike, you saw it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It was a beautiful okitch, strike with movements well done.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
It was a perfect strike from the rubber Joe, not
from the front of the maund from the rubber full
wind up, sixty five.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Years old, strike, non athlete category.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
He basically shoved Jacob the Grom out of the way,
took over the mountain.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Am I correct?
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Jerry?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
You are correct. He was not happy about.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That man to do his work. He's getting interrupted.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
But man, that was a I'm telling you, I wish
they had stat cast on that pitch, Jerry. I'd like
to know how much that pitch moved and came back
over the plate perfectly.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
I threw it as hard as I could.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
I didn't really realize this was going to be the
greatest moment of my life, and it turned out to be.
And I have a little shrine of it. I wish
this camera work. I'd show it to you. I have
some seats from the polo grounds and I've retired the ball,
the glove, the hat. I was wearing the shirt I
was wearing. Yeah, I'll never throw another one. And that
(30:49):
was the peak of it all.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
You know, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I had some friends tell me they thought you were
left handed, and obviously you're right handed throw I am
left handed.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I am left handed, but I throw writing.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
How did that happened?
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Wow, wow, Well I got to drop this out. I'm
not sure if you're aware of this kind of coincidence, Jerry.
The day that you were born, there was another guy
born in Brooklyn exact same day, by the name of
Denny Garcia. I don't know if this sounds familiar.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
He actually became a batboy for the nineteen seventy three
Mets National League champion nineteen seventy three Mets, and then
became a Major League outfielder with the nineteen eighty one
Kansas City Royals, and one of his teammates with the
Royals was Ken Phelps.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
He had a cannon for an arm.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And it was traded for Jay Buhner.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well done, well.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Done, We're all connected.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
So funny. That's great.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Well, Jerry, what are you up to these days?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Just to finish things off, I'm sure there's a lot
of fans of yours listening here?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
What are you up to? What do you got going on?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I'll be in Vegas next weekend at Caesar's Palace, and
I have not changed.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
You talk about you know, we talk about process and.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Routine, and I am very much that guy. And I
love doing stand up all over the country, all over
the world. We just did a tour of Australia. But
the only show I'm really interested in is the next one,
and right that'll be in Vegas at Caesar's Palace next week.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It's beautiful that you're still doing it, man.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Congratulations and hopefully one of these days I'll be able
to get a chance to, oh please.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
To be in an audience. I'd love to be able
to do that.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Let me know if you're coming job I shall.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Thank you been so much fun Gary. Oh, this has
been our pleasure. This has been fantastic, and really thanks
so much. You made this really spec for us. All
the best to you.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
It's a great show, and congratulations on one hundred episodes.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
See after two hundred buddy.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Okay, thanks bye, guys.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Well, Joe, I don't know how you feel, but I
was excited about this interview with Jerry Seinfeld, and it
blew away my expectations.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It was even better.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Correct, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
He's so part of our culture today for me personally,
like I've talked about on a nightly basis, almost he
did not, obviously did not disappoint. Love his demeanor, the
cadence with which he spoke, the effort or the thought
that he put into everything he thinks about. I mean,
it's it's reflective in his comedy and his show. I
(33:45):
can't remember he said he was working on a particular
new thought process, a new a new line of jokes.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And he was having trouble with it, but he was
not giving up.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
And I can't remember how many times he mentioned the
word process during the interview, and that really resonated with me.
This goes back to my time with Ken rivisa sports psychollege.
Just Kenny was the best ever and Kenny always talked
about process. And I think we've done this our whole
lives without even realize we're going through a process. And
(34:13):
when our process is good and we stay with our steps,
and when.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
We're able to do that, you're able to fail and then.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Come back from your failure because you know where to
pick it up and how to pick it up because
you have this method in place. So that was the
one thing that really impressed me. There's so much there's
let me talk baseball, you talk about sports, and then
you to go outside of the industry and you find
other successful people. The conversation and the method's always pretty
much always the same. Sounded like an anchor to me.
(34:41):
It's not like it's something that anchors him and permits
him to maybe have things not go so well, but
they're going to go well again because I have this
method in place that's going to bring me back. So
really impressive man, obviously, and the fact that we're the
same age, just missing by a couple.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Months was kind of interesting too.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I was so impressed the fact by the fact that
as successful as he is, one of the giants of
his business, I think he's got the gift of being
so approachable, right, I Mean, the highest compliment you can
give a baseball fan, I think is you want to
hang out and watch a game with them together, have
a cold one, and just kick back and enjoy the
game of baseball. Jerry's that kind of baseball fan. Although
(35:20):
he once said, you know, he's got a luxury box.
But he doesn't like it as much when it's filled
with people, because then you don't get to watch the
game as much. He doesn't want to talk and chat
about things other than the game in front of him.
So someday we'll have to do that. We'll sit with Jerry,
will promise him that, well, we won't bother, we won't
distract him from watching the Mets.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I tell you when I first started go and see.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Cardinal football games in the eighties and in Tempe when
the Cardinals first moved there from Saint Louis, I would
sit in the stands, of course, and I'd have to
put my headset on because they did not want to
be distracted by anything. I used to go there early
to watch the pregame, like Randall Cunningham throwing a football
to me was unbelievably exciting, and I've talked about Jeff
(36:05):
George possibly the best physical arm I've ever seen. But
I did not want to be bothered, so I just
would lock in. And he's right. I mean, you go
into the boots and the luxury suites, they're wonderful. Bathroom's
right there. But really to really bear down on the game,
is nearly impossible, and that'd be cool.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Man.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Listen, if you could swing that, I'm in I'd go
back just to sit there and watch a game with
him and converse back and forth. I think that'd be
kind of both very interesting and very cool.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Well, that was the most enjoyable episodes one hundred and
one on one with Jerry Seinfeld and Joe. As you
always do, it's now time for you to take us
out with something that fits the theme of the day.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Episode one on one.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
This came from Winnie again, Winnie Churchill, and it's about failure.
You may not see all the failure failures your idols
go through, but you can bet there are a lot
of them.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
And that's the thing. We always see the finished product.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
You watch the TV show, you watched the Major League
Baseball Player, listen to Tom Berducci like the Master, like
so many forms of media, and you think that it's
always been that way, right, Not true. So the great
quote from Churchill is success is walking from failure to
failure and that and then not giving up and then
(37:19):
eventually coming out the other side.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
So that's true. It's so true.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
And I think sometimes when people you look at a
guy like Seinfeld and whomever, and you always assume that
it's always been this way.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Believe me, not even close to being this way.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The different steps you have to go through, the amount
of failure, the amount of rejection, the amount of times
you've told you're not good enough for now, that's not
going to work, and still keep fighting through because you
do have this innate belief system and you have confidence
in yourself, et cetera. So Churchill had to have it
as much as anybody during World War Two. But success
is walking from failure to failure and believing the outcome
(37:56):
is eventually going to be a good one.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Well that was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Joe and I realized that when we have someone like
Jerry Seinfeld on a show like this, I'm sure we
get some new people in our audience, whether they're just
Seinfeld groupies or just out up fans who enjoy Jerry
and want to learn more about him.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But if you are one of the newbies to the
Book of Joe.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Podcasts, stick around because we may not have Jerry Seinfeld
on every episode, but I guarantee you this is the
most interesting baseball podcast on the planet. We go in
directions off the field on the field, a lot of
the process, mental preparation, teamwork.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Glue.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Guys, we can't promise you Jerry Seinfeld every week, but
we can definitely promise you a very interesting listen every week,
and this has been one of our more interesting ones.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Joe, I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Thank you, totally greed, Buddy, well done.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.
For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
The Book of Joe Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey Darren, welcome back.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's The Book of Joe Podcast with me, Tom Berducci,
and Joe Madden and our special guest, it's Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
The part of it that I found interesting, I really
felt he was just going to be died in a
woole traditionalist right. But he actually showed some progressive thinking
in some areas and kind of forced me to reach
into my bag there and start talking about the way
I see things, which was kind of interesting. I really
(00:45):
like the exchange a lot. You have to know what
you believe in, but you also have to be open
to something that you think or may believe is slightly
better than what you had thought in the past.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now it's time for Jerry to turn the tables, and
Jerry starts asking us questions.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Let me ask both of you guys to answer this
question that I know know your fans would love to hear.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I would like to hear from each of you.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What is your basic night league baseball routine? What do
you do TV wise in your life in the summer?
Speaker 6 (01:18):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
This is when I'm not at the ballpark? Correct I'm home,
not at of course, I am a channel surfer. I
love the MLB Dot TV app, and I'm going in
and out of games myself. I'm my own director. This
is going to strike you as Jerry. But I did
grow up a Mets fan. My father's cousin was married
(01:41):
to Gil Hodges. We all grew up Mets fans. But
when I got in this business, i just started rooting
for good baseball game.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So I'm never disappointed.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So when I'm when I got all and I got
seven eight games going on, I love jumping around to
each game. I never want to see a commercial. That's
my goal for the evening. No commercials live baseball throughout.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
We are as opposite this can be.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I watch a Met game, I watch every WB Mason commercial,
every ambulance chasing lawyer commercial.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
And I never turned it off no matter what the
score is.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
And I'm completely different. You know, I'm here in the
summer in Pennsylvania. This is like my second year I
think without doing this, maybe two and a half without
actually being involved.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So I sit down.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I'm pretty much active all day doing whatever, playing golf
or fixing around the house or taking care of the tomatoes.
Whatever it might be. But I do that all day.
But then it's time to sit down and have dinner.
I put David Muran, I go right to at six
thirty it's ABC News, and then I like him. I
like his delivery. And then after that, after that it's like,
I'll watch the Phillies because I know a lot of
(02:53):
the Phillies and I like the Phillies.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I like the charismatic component of that team.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I watch the Yankees only because again they're the Yankees,
and it's interesting. And I read the New York the
only paper. It is a new post every day. That's
my source of news. So I read that every day,
and so it's there. It's the best, and and Jill
Sherman best. So I'll do those two things. And then
will I will fade in and out of games.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I will peruse.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I will peruse a thought that comes to my head
right now, poxying a floor in my greenhouse. I'll go
to that as an example. How many time coachs I
have to put on? How long does it need to dry?
But I'll be all over the map. I just don't
sit there and Jones on a game all night long.
I don't think I've watched the game first of the
ninth inning complete, and I can't even tell how many
(03:38):
years I don't so like even like when I've got
to talk to Tommy. When I got to talk to Tommy,
You're like, do other gigs. I mean, I have to
catch up a little bit. But I rely on everything
I've done in the past, and I rely on a
New York Post primarily, and that's it. And then I
wake up and I get up about five thirty in
the morning, and I'm ready to roll and do it again.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
So what are you looking at doing now, Joe? Are
you happy with what you're doing now or are you
looking around?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm pretty happy with what I'm doing right now. Honestly,
this podcast helps a lot. Keeps me connected. I do
once a week on MLB Network with Brian Kenny. That
keeps me connected. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it again.
I would do it again with the right group. And
I've said this publicly. I need somebody to be a
partner with and not somebody to try to control everything
(04:23):
you do. I'm into owners being owners. I'm into gms
being GMS, managers being managers and coaches and scouts being
coaches and scouts. I don't think that's what's happening. And
I also believe that a lot of the fund's been
subtracted from the clubhouse to the field because too much.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Of it's being controlled.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So I need somebody that's willing to balance things a
little bit better. I listen, I'm all. I love analytics,
I love numbers. I love to morph them together with
all the experience I've had and all the knowledge I've
gained over the years that I've done this, But just
don't give me a print sheet and tell me to
follow this and just totally be void of everything I've
learned at this point, because that's pretty much what's gone to.
(05:02):
So if I could find that person and it really
wants to create a marriage and let me manage and
absolutely collaborate, that's what I would look for.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Could I have a Pennant prediction from each of you guys?
Who do you like to win the al Pennant NL Pennant?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Good, Tommy, I'm going to stick with my preseason pick, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I don't want to get off at this stage basically
because I don't like to travel a whole lot. Phillies
and Orioles, Philadelphia and Baltimore's.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm going to stick with that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I'm a little bit concerned about Baltimore these days because
the Yankees now haven't got their acting gear again. But
I'm going to stick with Philadelphia Baltimore. How about you, Joe,
It's it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean, I had it.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
That's exactly where I was at with the whole thing.
Brandon Hyde, Jerry's my former bench coach. I really have
a lot of faith in him. I love the way
he does things there. I like the youth with that
team and the depth, so I think they're going to
be there to the very end. And the Phillies, like
I said, I think they're a bunch of tough guys.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I like tough guys.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I like guys, and I think the Philly's alumni are
a bunch of tough guys. And I like the fact
that they're around the city. You have to be somewhat
firm in your conviction in order to deal with that daily.
So I like that too. Tommy, and we had not
rehearsed this at all. I liked Phillis Orioles.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Okay, I'll take Dodgers, Yankees soo Fox, Jerry, sood Fox.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's right, That's right, hey, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
One of the things we love talking about on this
podcast has been glue. Guys, you know the chemistry of
a unit and how it works. And you know, a
while back on we had Max Weinberg, the drummer of
the Bruce springste and the Eastreet Band, and he talked
about how, you know, as successful as they were, why
it worked and worked for so long, which you don't
(06:49):
see a lot in bands these days for sure. With
your group being together with the show for so long,
what do you think what was the glue to that group,
whether it was a person, whether it was a vibe,
what made it work as a team.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
M Well, I guess that would probably land in my
lap because I was the only guy who worked with
all the actors and all the writers every day. I
would rehearse all morning into the afternoon with the actors
and then starting at like two or three, it was
in the writer's room and we'd be writing till we
(07:27):
you know, till we ran out of guess, so that
was really my job to try and keep everybody happy.
And I just kind of have an even keel way
of going about things that you'd be surprised a lot
of people when they have their own show, they really
have trouble doing that. They start to act out, they
(07:48):
start to you know, it's the most boring story in
the world. But you know, but we never stopped seeing it.
Of things going to people's heads and they're not playing
the game. They they know they can play it. To me, ego, narcissism,
(08:09):
these are the most dangerous things. I have three kids,
and I talk to them about it. I've been watching this.
Netflix has got some great shows now. They do a
show on receivers. They do a show on sprinters that
I'm watching now. I've always been obsessed with sprinters and
watching how they go about their work and how they
(08:30):
handle success. Handling money and success, I would say, is
the trickiest part of any.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Of these professions.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
You know, you win the one hundred meters, your life
changes overnight, and it's this and I kind of went
through that in comedy. I was lucky that my success
came very, very gradually, even on the TV series. It
was so gradual. We were doing the show three and
a half four years. We were one of the lowest
rated shows on TV. So by the time people even
(09:00):
noticed it was on, we were really good, get totally
gelled as a writing staff and as a troop of actors,
and so people never saw our growing pains. Joe of
course has because he watches every episode.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I do, I got it, but even the looks my god.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
So so that you know, and I talk to the
kids about this, you know, they all want. Everybody wants
to make it. You know, everybody wants to hit it.
The money. People know who I am, they know what
I'm doing. No one tells them. You got to be
careful at that moment when the money. I'll never forget
when NBC said to us, you can spend any amount
(09:39):
of money you want on making these shows.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
And I was lucky enough.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I don't know where I got the head, but I
knew that's dangerous, that's dangerous. Being funny with no money
is the way to do it. And suddenly when you
can afford anything, and you know, this is why I
am not as much of I don't these teams that
(10:04):
try and buy it, and I think we've seen the
perils of trying to buy it, and they all do it.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
They can't resist.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So not getting carried away when something starts to work
and sticking to your process, your method, your system, and
ignoring results. I know, Joe, you've probably been saying this
your whole life is the process forget the results. It's
very zen, it's very stoicism. That was how we did
(10:33):
it on the show.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
No, my car was the first one there and the
last one gone every night. Me and Larry, our cars
were there every weekend, Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
And everybody knew it.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Everybody knew it, and so they don't mess with you,
and they listen to you, and they know you're working
harder than anybody and that you get that respect.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
That's my version of the glue. That's my version of it.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You're just describing the minor leagues. It's incredible you just
said and how you said it. I mean, as you're
taking me through all those different years in Idaho Falls,
in Salem, Oregon, and Middland, Texas, and all the things
that you've learned along the way, you stash it away
and then a moment pops up and all of a sudden,
you have these different experiences.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
To draw in.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And by being able to have that experience to drawn
it permits you to react in the situation, or you
recall something and you're able to apply it immediately to
what you're doing at that moment. I love that, the
fact that you've earned it. Having said all that, it's
a question I wrote down before we even started, because
it happened to me, and I think it happens to
anybody that becomes somewhat successful.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
There's got to be a.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Point where you might have questioned the direction you're going
in or is this going to really work?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Do I need to look for something differently?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I know that my crossroads came in Boulder, Colorado in
nineteen eighty and I had a chance to go, like
to go to Europe, to go to Italy to play
some ball and have a good time and whatever. But
I chose to stick around and eventually I got a
job with the Angels.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Really interesting, and after this break, we need to talk
to Jerry about how did he avoid the outside noise
and how did he keep the show Seinfeld fresh for
so many years.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
We'll do that right after this Welcome Back. It's the
Book of Joe podcast with our guest Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And Jerry, can you think back in pinpoint one moment
where you kept your show, Seinfeld got a back on track,
a key point in the success of that show.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yes, when I was in the mid eighties, I was
on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson three or four
times a year. I was on David Letterman several times
a year, and I was doing comedy clubs, which was
kind of the big thing of the eighties. But nothing
else was happening, and I kind of felt that I
had plateaued and that was it. It was never going
(13:06):
to go anywhere, and I did feel some frustration then, and.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Even though honestly stand up was the.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Only thing I ever really wanted to do, everything else
I've done in my career was somebody else's idea that
I just tried to pull off as best I could.
Even the TV series was not my idea. It was
my managers and Larry and I came up with it.
And then I just thought, well, I don't know how
to do this, but luck but Larry didn't know how
to do it either, so that was fun that we
(13:35):
both figured it out and we said, let's just do
this the way we want, even though nobody else.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Does it this way.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
But yeah, in the mid eighties, there were in my thirties,
I was kind of giving up and I just thought, well,
I might as well just get married to start having
some kids. This is nothing's ever really going to happen here.
And yeah, I wobbled a little bit at that point,
and then before I knew it, I was off.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
On that other thing you said, the way we wanted
I love that, the way you and I already wanted
to do it. That's so important, I think, to to
like a real high level of a success where you're
not interfered with, nobody got in the way of your
greatness kind of. I mean, that's one thing that I
Tommy and I talk about often. I think the way
the game structured sometimes and everybody's trying to be the
same guy. You just don't know if you're inhibiting greatness
(14:21):
or not. But the fact and kind of what I
was talking about when you asked me what I wanted
to do.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
The way we wanted to do it.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Now, I'm not saying it to the point like it's again,
that's not a narcissistic comment. It's just you've you've you've learned,
and you've you have an idea in your mind's eye
how to get this thing done, what works, what doesn't work,
and and to have it interfered with could be you know,
it could really mess with the process. And furthermore, then
you start creating some doubt with in your own mind.
You got to do, you got to go out there,
You got to go out there and do some crazy stuff,
(14:50):
because you have to be a little bit crazy to
be great.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I think.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
So it's wonderful to hear that, just that little phrase
the way we want it, I think to me, I
think if you talk to most really successful people, you're
here at some point where they arrived at that kind
of a crossroads, and they follow their own instincts. They
followed their own compass in order to become whatever they became,
as opposed to trying to rely on everybody else always
to tell them what to do.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah, I'll tell you what the big turn was if
we did We had done the show a couple of seasons,
and NBC and everybody watching said, boy, Jerry and Julia
Louis Dreyfuss really have a nice chemistry. Why don't we
put them together as a couple. And they put tremendous
pressure on Larry and I to put Jerry and Elane
together as a couple. Let's have them day, let's have
them get married. And Larry and I knew that is
(15:35):
not the road to comedy because the show was not
about that.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
It was about we were both single. That was the
world we knew.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And four Dysfunctional Singles is going to be funnier than
a couple. You know, there were lots of shows with
couples and they they turned the screws on us with that,
and we said, sorry, but we're not going to do
it because we don't think it's funny awesome. We don't
think couples are funny. I still don't think I could.
I could write a show about being married now having
(16:04):
been married, but anyway, that was kind of a turning
point where we said, no, this show is about jokes.
It's about funny situations. It's not about how does this couple?
You know, it's not a romantic show. But the only
question I would like to I love that George.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Will baseball book men at work.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I think one of the things we all love about
baseball is you get to see how a guy goes
about his work, and I think we relate to that.
We're interested and entertained by it, we think, well, I
wouldn't go about it that way. Tom, Sure, I know
you remember in the twenty fifteen World Series when the
crowd was chanting to get Matt Harvey to go out
(16:43):
for the ninth and I have to admit I was
also cheering. I think it was we want mad or
something like that, we want Harvey.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It was a great moment.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
But Tom, the moment was as soon as Terry lets
him go back out and he sprints to the mound,
and I knew it was over right then, because that's
not your process.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, as it turned out, you're hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I had said on the air, because I'm doing the
game of Fox that I understand him going back out,
But the minute anybody gets on base, he has to
come out of the game, right, because then you're really
stressed out, you know, getting in a stretch position. He
had surgery of the year before, you know, he's deep
into an innings county he probably shouldn't have had anyway,
Now you're deep into this game, World Series all that,
(17:32):
the minute somebody's on base, you got to get him out.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
But the question I want to get to Joe is
what guys do you think back on in your career,
who's approach to the work was something that impressed you
and you admired.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Wow, there's honestly, Joe, there's a lot of guys that's
That's the one thing about professional of.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Course, there's got to be a time.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, I I could go back. I mean, I could
go back to my angel days.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Darren Nurstadt was one of the best or most complete
professionals ever met. Nobody worked harder than Ersty, nobody had
he had everybody's respect. I meanan is he he had
that that look. He didn't have to say a word,
but his look would just undress you. You know, like
so if a player got out of line a little bit,
he would just he would just give him the thirsty
look and you're done.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
You a message delivered. You know, you got it and
you straightened out. So, I mean, Ersty was really one
that I really respected regarding how he worked and how
and how hard he worked and how smartly he worked. Also,
uh more recently, you know, oh Tawny really I got him.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I'm gonna jump Oh, I mean, my god.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
The thing that everybody was critical of Showy because he
didn't do a lot of work on the field, but
he does all kinds of work off the field, and nobody.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Can be more prepared.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
I mean, you talk about the game as it is
right now, and there's others talking about attempting to do
both pitch and hit. My god, it's hard enough to
do that when you're in high school in college where
you play three or four days a week, let alone
professionally on a nightly basis where okay, he pitches one,
but then he doesn't take days off to hit. He pitches,
(19:08):
he goes right back into hitting, or he hits.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
The day before.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
When I first got there, there was a tawny rules
based on he had. You couldn't you couldn't have him
hit the day before he pitched. He could not hit
the day that he pitched, and you could not hit
the day after he pitched. You're losing him three out
of you know, every six days, you're not You can't
even play the guy as a pitcher as a hitter,
and I never liked that. But in order to do that,
he makes it look so easy. He's that strong his
(19:33):
work ethic, and you're talking about the mind. It's all
the stuff that he does on the mental side. Of
things because he's absolutely calm in the moment. The guy's
never too quick, he's never out of control. He always
knows exactly what he wants to do, and he runs,
he runs base. He wants to steal bases on top
of that. So I mean, I'm going to go from
ersty all the way to show hey as being some
(19:55):
really impressive athletes that just went after it right.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Interesting and Jerry, for me, I'm going to give you
something and I'm curious if there's a stand up equivalent
to this. Derek Jeter was the most routine oriented person,
and people in baseball talk about that a lot. This
season is such a grind. You need a routine. You
want to keep things as even as possible, right and
not ride the highs and low so you kind of
arrange your life in a very routine manner.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
He used an a limited bat in high school.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Drafted out of high school, they send him to Tampa,
the Yankees minor League complex. Right after he's drafted, he's
going to use a wood bat for the first time.
He goes to this rack of bets and tries to
find a bat that is most like the metal bat
he used in high school, he picks it out from
that day till his last day in the big leagues.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Derek Jeter never.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Changed that model of batow. Every one of his three
thousand plus hits with the same model bet the same
infielders glove hit off a tee every single day. So
you've talked a lot, and I really like this comparison
to about the grind of a baseball player and how
you respect and admire and relate to what it takes.
(21:05):
I mean, we're talking about a sport where you make
a mistake, they literally put it in lights on the scoreboard.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That's an error, right.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, Well, I can tell you there's very few professions.
I don't know if you can name another profession other
than mine. When when I make a mistake, it's the
same thing. The entire room goes silent and everybody knows
that wasn't supposed to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's tough.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah, So comedians are judged, you know, every twelve seconds
we get a rating, and so you can never not
be present. Nobody cares about your reputation or your accomplishments.
They paid seventy five bucks and I want to laugh tonight.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
And that's the job.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
That's why that airline pilot screws you up. Man. That
was so good.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
That was a true story.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
It was yeah, no way, it.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Was Oh my gosh, that's funny. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Hey, Jerry, I got to ask you.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
This is Joe's a great collector of cars as well.
You talked about the baseball bug and when you got that,
what about the cars? When did the car bug hit you?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
There was a kid next door to me when I
was about four years old that had a tractor with
a steering wheel and pedals, and I used to go
over and just knock on the door and ask the
parents could I borrow the tractor. Eventually they went came
to my parents' house and I said, would you please
buy him one of these so he will stop waking
(22:32):
us up every morning. So my father he goes, he
buys one. We had this black and white Plymouth station wagon.
He pulls into the driveway with the tractor in the
back of the driveway. He puts the car in park,
he turns around. I'm on the tractor in the back
of the station wagon before the car came to a stop.
(22:53):
So it was I don't know what the hell that is?
That's a that's just a strand of DNA. I don't
know what the hell it is.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I just cars.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I just I drove with my son yesterday. We took
two cars out from the city out to the east
end of Long Island. We spent eleven hours driving just
for fun of it.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Wow, what did you drive? What did you drive?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
We drove the new Porsche de Car, you know, this
new off road nine to eleven that they've done.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I haven't seen it, have not seen it.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
It's amazing. And we also drove a GT four RS,
which is a Porsche came in very track focused car,
so kind of the opposite ends of the spectrum. One
is for the dirt and one is for the racetrack.
And so those were the two cars we drove.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Seminole Chevy Guy I got in the garage. I got
a fifty six and a seventy. I got a fifty six.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Bell are in the seventy two Chevelle right out there
right now. I love it.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Seventy two, three ninety six.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
No, it's a three fifty. It's all redone. It's a
fuel inject it runs great. It's a six speed treming transmission.
It's a convertible too, and I love it. But the
fifty six bell Air really goes. I'm getting new tires
and wheels on it.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
A couple of days. I wanted to.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I want to make that my daily driver, you know
what I mean? Why just keep that in the garage
all the time. This sucker goes. He's got good air conditioning,
I got a great stereo system.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I want to drive this thing.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
So I'm an old Chevy guy.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
The way I look at it, j other, they're putting
miles on me. Why not put miles on the cut exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's the Book of Joe Podcast with our special guest
Jerry Seinfeld. Hey, Jerry, I asked Joe about this all
the time. Obviously, he loves his cars. He loves the
roar of the engine, the smell of the gas. I
do talk about electric cars, though, and I get a
different vibe from him.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And I know you're a Porsche guy.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, And they've got Porsche does a new car out
electric vehicle, the take Can is out, which is kind
of an interesting name in and of itself.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But would you drive one? Would you drive an electric Porsche?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
No?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I haven't driven one yet, but maybe someday I will.
But uh, you know, I'm into the tiny explosions.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I'm with you, there's no argument. I'm with you hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
These cars. You know, you could there's a lot of
ecological arguments they but that's not the subject of this podcast.
You could make. You know, a well maintained internal combustion
car can actually have less impact on the environment than
the lithium mining that they have to do for these batteries.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You know, that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Listen, I want to hear my car. I don't want
to just sit there quietly. I want to hear my
and I guess right now they're actually, uh do there's
some kind of an app or whatever they do that
you there, they as you're driving an electric vehicle, that
there's a vehicle noise somehow.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Yeah? They haven't flavorable six dolls too. Now, Joe, I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Know, I've heard about that. I'll check that out from
my boxes from.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
The same company.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And Joe, where do you have your car stored? Our
audience really should hear the story about this?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, well, I'm in PETSIL know, Jerry, I'm in Northeastern PA.
And I got like nine eight or seven eight nine cars.
So I need a place to store them. So I
found a eighteen ninety nine firehouse up in Wookesboro, and
so it's it's awesome. It's really in great shape. So
I stored them up there, and there's there's room to
make this more complete, like upstairs with the old fireman
(26:24):
used to dress in everything where they used to keep
the hate for the horses, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
But I love going up there.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I go up there and I got them all stashed away,
and there he looked them, look at them all at once.
But it's pretty cool to own an eighteen ninety nine firehouse,
fire station number five in Wookesboro, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Wow, that is that is great? Love it, Tom. What
is your hobby besides baseball?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I like word puzzles, word games, and I love golf.
Joe and I talked a lot about golf. I love golf.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Okay, do you play golf?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do you played all? Jerry? Do you play golf at all?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
No?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Do you know my golf joke, Tom? No?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
It stands for get out leave family.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
For four plus hours?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right, Well, one of My great accomplishments in life is
convincing my wife to play golf. Wow, so that's the
secret to happy golf where you don't feel guilty leaving family. Well, Jerry,
you had mentioned I think at one point somebody asked
you about in retirement or you brought up the idea
that the ideal retirement is watching a baseball game every day.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I don't know if you meant that hyperbole or not,
but it's it's a pretty good way to kick.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Back people talk about these shows. Did you see this show?
That show?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I haven't seen any of the shows. I'm watching W. B.
Mason commercials and I just feel at peace. There is
something when the game is on and I'm just sitting
there there there is a serenity that I feel that
then that nothing else gives me.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Serenity now, all right, sendity now?
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Yeah. I love it more and more.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
And you know, it's watching the teams operate, watching the
players operate, just watching people work at this very difficult
thing and the frustration and them handling the emotions of it.
I'm always impressed with these announcers that you know that
they love the team. Well, you think they do and
(28:25):
how they don't let the emotion get the better of
them when things go badly and they just tell you
it's a Grand Slam and that's the end of that game.
And they're pretty amazing. The Mets Booth is a fantastic
group of guys.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Great Booth, Gary Teeth and Ron. They do a great job.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Great Booth.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't know if art imitates life, but there was
a one episode in sidefeld Well where Kramer spoiled the
ending of a Mets game that you had taped.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Are you the pilot episode? Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I love that bit.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I'm not sure whether you're devoing or DVR or whatever
it is to gains, but you're I'm assuming watching them live.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Yeah, no, good.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I like what Jerry. This has been a real pleasure
to me. I can tell, and I've known for years
that you're a true baseball fan, and I think that
resonates with people. And I love talking to you about
the game of baseball because I know it's coming from
such a genuine place.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So really appreciate you coming on here.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
The only thing we didn't talk about and I know
Joe you don't know about this, or Tom you might
know about it. If you guys saw my ceremonial first
pitch on July fifth, twenty nineteen, at City Field.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I did it. I missed it. Strike strike, you saw it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It was a beautiful okitch, strike with movements well done.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
It was a perfect strike from the rubber Joe, not
from the front of the maund from the rubber full
wind up, sixty five.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Years old, strike, non athlete category.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
He basically shoved Jacob the Grom out of the way,
took over the mountain.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Am I correct?
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Jerry?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
You are correct. He was not happy about.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That man to do his work. He's getting interrupted.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
But man, that was a I'm telling you, I wish
they had stat cast on that pitch, Jerry. I'd like
to know how much that pitch moved and came back
over the plate perfectly.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
I threw it as hard as I could.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
I didn't really realize this was going to be the
greatest moment of my life, and it turned out to be.
And I have a little shrine of it. I wish
this camera work. I'd show it to you. I have
some seats from the polo grounds and I've retired the ball,
the glove, the hat. I was wearing the shirt I
was wearing. Yeah, I'll never throw another one. And that
(30:49):
was the peak of it all.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
You know, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I had some friends tell me they thought you were
left handed, and obviously you're right handed throw I am
left handed.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I am left handed, but I throw writing.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
How did that happened?
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Wow, wow, Well I got to drop this out. I'm
not sure if you're aware of this kind of coincidence, Jerry.
The day that you were born, there was another guy
born in Brooklyn exact same day, by the name of
Denny Garcia. I don't know if this sounds familiar.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
He actually became a batboy for the nineteen seventy three
Mets National League champion nineteen seventy three Mets, and then
became a Major League outfielder with the nineteen eighty one
Kansas City Royals, and one of his teammates with the
Royals was Ken Phelps.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
He had a cannon for an arm.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And it was traded for Jay Buhner.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well done, well.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Done, We're all connected.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
So funny. That's great.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Well, Jerry, what are you up to these days?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Just to finish things off, I'm sure there's a lot
of fans of yours listening here?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
What are you up to? What do you got going on?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I'll be in Vegas next weekend at Caesar's Palace, and
I have not changed.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
You talk about you know, we talk about process and.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Routine, and I am very much that guy. And I
love doing stand up all over the country, all over
the world. We just did a tour of Australia. But
the only show I'm really interested in is the next one,
and right that'll be in Vegas at Caesar's Palace next week.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It's beautiful that you're still doing it, man.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Congratulations and hopefully one of these days I'll be able
to get a chance to, oh please.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
To be in an audience. I'd love to be able
to do that.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Let me know if you're coming job I shall.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Thank you been so much fun Gary. Oh, this has
been our pleasure. This has been fantastic, and really thanks
so much. You made this really spec for us. All
the best to you.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
It's a great show, and congratulations on one hundred episodes.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
See after two hundred buddy.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Okay, thanks bye, guys.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Well, Joe, I don't know how you feel, but I
was excited about this interview with Jerry Seinfeld, and it
blew away my expectations.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It was even better.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Correct, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
He's so part of our culture today for me personally,
like I've talked about on a nightly basis, almost he
did not, obviously did not disappoint. Love his demeanor, the
cadence with which he spoke, the effort or the thought
that he put into everything he thinks about. I mean,
it's it's reflective in his comedy and his show. I
(33:45):
can't remember he said he was working on a particular
new thought process, a new a new line of jokes.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And he was having trouble with it, but he was
not giving up.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
And I can't remember how many times he mentioned the
word process during the interview, and that really resonated with me.
This goes back to my time with Ken rivisa sports psychollege.
Just Kenny was the best ever and Kenny always talked
about process. And I think we've done this our whole
lives without even realize we're going through a process. And
(34:13):
when our process is good and we stay with our steps,
and when.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
We're able to do that, you're able to fail and then.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Come back from your failure because you know where to
pick it up and how to pick it up because
you have this method in place. So that was the
one thing that really impressed me. There's so much there's
let me talk baseball, you talk about sports, and then
you to go outside of the industry and you find
other successful people. The conversation and the method's always pretty
much always the same. Sounded like an anchor to me.
(34:41):
It's not like it's something that anchors him and permits
him to maybe have things not go so well, but
they're going to go well again because I have this
method in place that's going to bring me back. So
really impressive man, obviously, and the fact that we're the
same age, just missing by a couple.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Months was kind of interesting too.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I was so impressed the fact by the fact that
as successful as he is, one of the giants of
his business, I think he's got the gift of being
so approachable, right, I Mean, the highest compliment you can
give a baseball fan, I think is you want to
hang out and watch a game with them together, have
a cold one, and just kick back and enjoy the
game of baseball. Jerry's that kind of baseball fan. Although
(35:20):
he once said, you know, he's got a luxury box.
But he doesn't like it as much when it's filled
with people, because then you don't get to watch the
game as much. He doesn't want to talk and chat
about things other than the game in front of him.
So someday we'll have to do that. We'll sit with Jerry,
will promise him that, well, we won't bother, we won't
distract him from watching the Mets.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I tell you when I first started go and see.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Cardinal football games in the eighties and in Tempe when
the Cardinals first moved there from Saint Louis, I would
sit in the stands, of course, and I'd have to
put my headset on because they did not want to
be distracted by anything. I used to go there early
to watch the pregame, like Randall Cunningham throwing a football
to me was unbelievably exciting, and I've talked about Jeff
(36:05):
George possibly the best physical arm I've ever seen. But
I did not want to be bothered, so I just
would lock in. And he's right. I mean, you go
into the boots and the luxury suites, they're wonderful. Bathroom's
right there. But really to really bear down on the game,
is nearly impossible, and that'd be cool.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Man.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Listen, if you could swing that, I'm in I'd go
back just to sit there and watch a game with
him and converse back and forth. I think that'd be
kind of both very interesting and very cool.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Well, that was the most enjoyable episodes one hundred and
one on one with Jerry Seinfeld and Joe. As you
always do, it's now time for you to take us
out with something that fits the theme of the day.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Episode one on one.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
This came from Winnie again, Winnie Churchill, and it's about failure.
You may not see all the failure failures your idols
go through, but you can bet there are a lot
of them.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
And that's the thing. We always see the finished product.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
You watch the TV show, you watched the Major League
Baseball Player, listen to Tom Berducci like the Master, like
so many forms of media, and you think that it's
always been that way, right, Not true. So the great
quote from Churchill is success is walking from failure to
failure and that and then not giving up and then
(37:19):
eventually coming out the other side.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
So that's true. It's so true.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
And I think sometimes when people you look at a
guy like Seinfeld and whomever, and you always assume that
it's always been this way.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Believe me, not even close to being this way.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The different steps you have to go through, the amount
of failure, the amount of rejection, the amount of times
you've told you're not good enough for now, that's not
going to work, and still keep fighting through because you
do have this innate belief system and you have confidence
in yourself, et cetera. So Churchill had to have it
as much as anybody during World War Two. But success
is walking from failure to failure and believing the outcome
(37:56):
is eventually going to be a good one.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Well that was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Joe and I realized that when we have someone like
Jerry Seinfeld on a show like this, I'm sure we
get some new people in our audience, whether they're just
Seinfeld groupies or just out up fans who enjoy Jerry
and want to learn more about him.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But if you are one of the newbies to the
Book of Joe.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Podcasts, stick around because we may not have Jerry Seinfeld
on every episode, but I guarantee you this is the
most interesting baseball podcast on the planet. We go in
directions off the field on the field, a lot of
the process, mental preparation, teamwork.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Glue.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Guys, we can't promise you Jerry Seinfeld every week, but
we can definitely promise you a very interesting listen every week,
and this has been one of our more interesting ones.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Joe, I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Thank you, totally greed, Buddy, well done.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.
For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Fox Sports Radio News
Host
Jonas Knox
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.