Andy Furman and Bucky Brooks talk NFL Preseason, Colin Kaepernick, NIL Pros and Cons, and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
He is the one and only mister Senior, Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
How are you, Buck? How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. What was going on?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
And I didn't mean to wake I'm sorry and that loud.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Get a little excited when I see you because I
can't hold this back any longer. Did you see that
behind the back pass yesterday by Patrick Mahomes? Did you
see that? Where did he get that out of his arsenal?
Where did that come from?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
I think he's on those kinds of things before, and
in fact they're in clips of him in practice doing
that on the same play, shovel passed on it behind
his back. So I'm surprised to see him do it
in game action, but it was a great player.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean, they don't practice that. I mean just kind
of like a fooling around thing or a desperation pass
to Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
How does that work? Really? You don't work on that
in practice.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I mean I think you do. I think they do
if they messing around with it.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
I mean, I think Andy ree gives those guys a
lot of flexibility and creativity and and stuff, and so
I think that's just one.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Where Pat Mahomes just goes for it, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
And he said wasn't predetermined, premeditated. He just kind of
kind of felt it and did it.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I hear about the Patrick Mahomes deal all the time,
and the Kansas City Chiefs may be the first team
to go for three in a row with the Super Bowl.
I have a He's great, There's no doubt about that.
He's in a great situation. He's got a great coach,
and he's got some great people on his team with him.
But when I hear people tell me he's the greatest
quarterback of all time, I got to take a deep breath,

(02:02):
scratch my head. What's your take on that? I mean,
is he the greatest of all time? I mean the
greatest results maybe of all time? If he has three
super Bowls in a row and he wins those, but
the greatest of all time, that's tough. That's a tough
thing to swallow for me.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, I mean, if you look at where he is
in his career right now compared to anybody else, I mean,
you would have to say he's trending towards tracking towards
being the greatest of all time.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
And if it comes down to a.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Point where he evens tom Brady's seven super Bowl rings
in those things, I think he certainly gets to not
because many would view him as more talented and I
would say more out of worldly when it comes to
his talent than tom Brady, And so that would give
him a nod.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
But winning is hard.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
But if he's able to win three in a row
to go with the MVPs as he's always already won
the level of success they've already had early in his career,
it'd be hard to move him from that number one spot.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I guess people judging what they do when they judge
who's the greatest of all time, it's all about championships.
I mean, they don't even look at the stats. It's
all about championships. I mean, look, it's a shame that
Aaron Rodgers, who's won two MVPs, only won Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
You know. I think he's a great quarterback. I really do.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And I think one of the reasons he probably went
to the New York Jets. Number one, he's started running
on the wall with Jordan Love and Green Bay. But
number two, I think he realizes if he could take
the Jets from nineteen sixty eight when they last won
until a Super Bowl this year, that's his legacy. And
then all of a sudden he zooms up the list
one of the greatest of all time.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Maybe I don't think he zooms up the list.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I just don't think there's a path for him to
ever be considered the greatest of all time. I think
there's been too many playoff failures, too many shortcomings from
his teams to be considered.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
The greatest of all time.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
One super Bowl only in Green Bay, one super Bowl
appearance only in Green Bay. Look, he can take the
Jets for Super Bowl, but I don't think that's enough
to put him on that mount Rushmore quarterbacks in the
league to say that he's the greatest of all time.
He certainly will be an all time great. But when
you talk about the goat conversation, I mean, you're talking
about Joe Montana.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
You talking about Tom.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Brady and Patrick Mahomes like that's that's it. There's no
one else that is even close to being in those categories.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
And here's where I have a problem. When they talk
about the greatest of all time. I mean, Eli Manning
won two super Bowls. I would never consider him even
in the top ten of all time.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Really, it's a good quarterback on a great team and
they want two super Bowls?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Is he the greatest of all time? Is he a
top ten all time quarterback? I don't think so. But
he's got two super Bowl rings. You got one more
ring than his brother Peyton.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
No, Well wait, Manne Peyton had to like the second one.
Is he has won in Denver, won in Indie. But
that's second one was more on the defense than him.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
But you are right.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
It is an interesting conversation when you throw into winning.
But when you throw into winning, a lot of you
have to remember why did they win?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Did the team win?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Because of you or in spite of you, And of
the three that we talked about being the ghost, Joe Montana,
Tom Brady, and Patrick Mahomes, it's very clear that the
team won because of them and their contributions, and they
also had a level of regular season success that you
couldn't call their playoff success fluky. I think with Eli

(05:22):
Manning you could talk about their playoff things being fluky.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Where a they get high, they can win it. But
there are these long glows in his career.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Where they didn't go to the playoffs, they didn't do
anything of significance. To me, that separates the good from
the elites. The elites are always in the conversation. Kansas
City has always been in the conversation. Seven or eight
straight division titles, always in the AFC Championship game since
Pat Mahomes has kind of been there, like just always
on the verge of doing it.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
And if they get a three peat after.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Losing Tybreek Hill, I just think it's another feather in
his cap.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
You always make too much sense. That's why I love
talking football with you because he always set me straight.
You're really do and I said, it's panic time coming
into this segment, and we talk about quarterbacks. Right now,
let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings losing their rookie quarterback
JJ McCarthy for the season.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
He said he has a miniscus tear in his right knee.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
That was funny because during the game and after that
ball game, the announcers basically said he's got some pain
in his knee. They didn't find that he had a
miniscus tear until Monday of the following Monday, after the game,
like forty eight hours later. I mean, it was crazy
to me. So now Sam Donald's the number three pick
in twenty eighteen. He's going to be the starting quarterback
for the Minnesota Vikings. And here's the deal my take.

(06:36):
As soon as I heard that he was out for
the year, I'm saying again, and this conversation always comes up,
why are they having preseason games? You look at the games,
no one plays. The regulars never play. I don't understand.
I mean, every starter does not play, except Patrick Mahomes
he plays. I don't know why they play and he
plays him. I guess he wants to play. But other

(06:57):
than that, there is no rhyme or reason to me
why these guys. He started playing the preseason. Explain that
to me, did you play in the preseason when you played?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, because you have.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
To get ready to play for the regular season, like
the preseason is that and you can't run around scare
to play your guys. One of the reasons why the
Kansity Chiefs have been able to run out on most
of the competition in the AFC is because their guys play.
They're battle tested, they're hard, and they're ready to go when.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
The regular season kicks off.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
For those teams that don't play, they don't have a
sense of timing. It takes them a while to kind
of find their sea legs and regular season play, and
by then they're looking up at the Kansaity Chiefs. Remember,
prior to last year, EVERYFC Championship game to the Kansaity
Chiefs have played like they hadn't ventured on the road,

(07:47):
like Pat Mahomes did not played any road playoff games
the early part of his career. And it's because they
do a great job of winning early in the regular season,
patting the lead, and finding a way to be the
number one and number two seed. It's worked for Andy
Reid has worked for teams that have taken that approach
where they come after they play their guys, they still
take an old school approach where the first preseason game

(08:10):
they can play half the first quarter, the second preseason
game they can play the first half, and then the
third preseason game they may get in.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
There a little bit.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
But his team is ready to go because they play,
They have a hard training camp, and he knows how
to get his team ready to play.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Okay, So I'm listening to what you say.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
You make a lot of sense, and everything you say
about football, I agree because you always correct and I
believe that. So if that's the case, and if they
look at the model of the Kansas City Chiefs, why
don't others follow suits? Why don't the other coaches do that?
Why don't other coaches play their regulars? I mean, I
want to you know who played yesterday? Daniel Jones, And
to be honest, he's probably sorry he did play because
he threw two interceptions for the Giants. He was terrible

(08:50):
coming off the acl really he really was. The Giants
are in a bad way this year. But other than that,
why aren't these guys playing? If it works for Kansas City,
why weren't the other teams.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Because you have an other faction of folks that are
following the Sean McVay model. Sean McVay didn't play his
guys and he was able to win a Super Bowl
a few years back. And what happens is whoever's the
team at the top typically did the trendsetters. Everyone wants
to model what the best teams do. So when the
Rams didn't play, their guys got to the starting line healthy,

(09:22):
it gave them a chance to win and they had success.
Others like Andy Reid, who's a little more old school,
who's older in terms of age football, experiencing those things
they believe in the traditional way of getting your team.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Ready to play.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
That is long, hard practices, pads on physical practices to
get you ready for contact, playing, the preseason games to
get you ready for the game, experience and situations, and
the way the game ramps up from a pace and
speed standpoint.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
And then the other part that is often overlooked.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
No one talks about the conditioning part of it and
how you have to be ready to play in a
regular season game. And it's hard to go from playing
a half a quarter to not playing to oh, now
i'm a play a sixty minute game that is fully contact.
It's hot, people are beating up on you, and you're
not ready for it. Andy Reid understands that. That's why
he gets his team ready to play in the man

(10:17):
in which he plays.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Now. Other ways have worked for guys, But I know this.
I know the Kansaity Chiefs have always been there.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
They've always been a playoff team. They've been at the
top of the division for a long time. He certainly
is doing something right, and I would be more apt
to follow his lead than to follow others leads.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Okay, I hear what you're saying, and I agree with
everything you say. But if it works that way that
you need to get the condition, I get. It's like
a boxer. You have to have some abouts prior to
a championship bout. You have to have a sporing partner.
You just can't go into the ring and fight. You
have to work it out. I get that. But if
it works that way, how come colleges don't have preseason games.
You know you're a college football player, Boom, Labor Day weekend,

(10:58):
next weekend, the USC plays LSU, they start right away.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
How come they don't have a preseason.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I think some if you ask them, some would advocate
they should probably have scrimmages or something like that against
other teams. You've heard people talk about spring ball and
let them play against others or whatever. Now they're different
ways to get it going. But you know, in college
football everything is more speculative when it comes to the
top twenty five and who we think are going to
be good because we guessing because we never get a

(11:26):
chance to see the teams where we make rankings about
this is a top twenty five team, but we haven't
seen them. We haven't seen this iteration or version of
a team, and so we have these wild swings the
first month and a half of the season because everything
that is related to.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
The polls are all.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I'm projecting that this team is going to be but
I have no rhyme or reason to know, no evidence
to say that they're going to be good.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Pro football is different and you a chance to see them.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Let it go back for a second to the Minnesota
Vikings with JJ McCarthy. Now, is it a blessing in
disguise that he's going to be out for the year,
because I've always thought it's probably best for a kid
who was just drafted, especially at the quarterback position, to
shoot and learn from the veteran instead of throwing them
straight to the wolves. Well, maybe that philosophy is gone
right now. Maybe best for JJ McCarthy not to have

(12:17):
started this year and let the veteran of the guy
who's got the experience, Sam Donald get the snaps.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
I mean, I think every player, I think it's all
based on the individual and look, you would have liked
to have seen what JJ McCarthy would have done in
this next preseason game to make a decision and determination.
Some of it has to do with the coach who
is in charge of the development of the quarterback. He
can have a major impact and influence on how they
perform and how they perform long time Kevin O'Connell does

(12:46):
a good job with quarterbacks. I think for JJ McCarthy,
he was off to a good start, but there are
a lot of people in that building that feel great
about what Sam Donald could potentially do and they were
going to get the best of both worlds. JJ McCarthy
playing in the preseason, sitting down watching Sam Donald play,
doing the regular season and if an opportunity came up
where he jumped.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
In, he would be ready to play.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
I think there's value to him sitting and watching, but
it would be better if he could get the physical
development to go with the mental development that he's gonna
get on the side.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right and yesterday you look at Caleb with the Chicago Bears.
He's playing and he got his first rushing touchdown. They
throw him right to the Wolves. But I think that
that's a situation that they need to win and win now.
I think teams that need to win now and they
build around them with the receivers of the DJ Mooores
of the world. The Chicago Bears right now have been

(13:36):
so downtrodden for so many years. You get a first
round pick, was a Heisman Trophy winner, you got to
put him in there. You got to play him, right.
I think that's what you gotta do.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I think it all changes. I think a lot of
it is up to.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
The player and what you need from that player to
be successful. When I look at like Kayleb Williams, He's
played a lot of games in college. If you're a
quarterback who has played a lot in college, I think
it's easier to put him on the field as a pro.
Kayla Williams was a three year starter for JJ McCarthy.
He only had twenty eight games under his belt as

(14:13):
a starter at Michigan. You probably need a little more
seasoning to be able to be ready to play. And
if you look at the guys that have played really
well early in the year career, most of them have
played a lot of games in college. Every look, they
like snowflakes. Everyone is individuals, and no two snowflakes are
the same. No two game plans or paths to starting

(14:34):
are the same. You have to know what your player
can do, and you have to constantly evaluate and reevaluate
the circumstances to give them the best opportunity to succeed.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
You know what, you make a great point. I mean
that's why perhaps Trey Lance didn't really make it, and
he was a high draft pick, but he didn't play
much in college and he was thrown there during the
COVID situation too, right, I mean, right now he's a
backup in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yeah, I would say, you know, it's funny that you
bring that up Trey Lance. When we go back and
we think about Trey Lance, Trey Lance was a one
year wonder.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
At North Dakota State.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
He was a guy who played multiple positions in high school,
who wasn't really groomed to be a quarterback from birth.
And so they have only one season to then play
one game in a COVID season to you picked by nine,
it's like so much development and I think people may
have overestimated the talent and what he eventually would be

(15:28):
and it's turned out that he hasn't been what many
of us thought he would be.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
And it's tough.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
It's tough because you just see a guy who is talented,
he has all the physical tools, He's just not a
natural quarterback.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
You know what's really funny you look at the situation.
Trey Lance was like the third player picked I think
that year, and he basically it'll come with a lot
of hype, but didn't play at a great big school.
Maybe that was a factor as well. It didn't play
much too, so he kind of failed to some extent.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Maybe I'll come back in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Who knows and brock Perty basically who was like the
last rust and pit clok An after throat, he's becoming
a star. I mean, it's kind of crazy, isn't it
when you think about it.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, and look, it's really crazy.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
But if you go back and you look at Brock
Pritty's career at Iowa State, and you look at the
fact that he had maybe I think at forty nine
starts at Iowa State, he was the all time leader
in passing yards and touchdowns in all these different categories.
At Iowa State, he played a lot. He was ready,

(16:32):
and he continued to improve. Because I said, there and
Washington person at the East West Shrine game and he
was starting quarterback and there was nothing that was necessarily
special about him that stood out. But he goes to
San Francisco, he takes the feedback, he continues to improve.
He challenged himself, and when he got his opportunity, he
played the right way. And a lot of people still

(16:53):
don't give him credit for doing what he does for
the Niners in terms of being the point guard of
this office. But he's really good pro and he's gonna
get paid a lot of money, and at some point
we're gonna have to give miss Flowers as a top quarterback.

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The name is Connor Stallions. You remember this guy. He's

(19:48):
that analyst on the University of Michigan football staff, demand
behind the sign stealing operations at Michigan. This guy is
now the new defensive coordinator at Muntford High School in Detroit.
How why does the Board of Education check the background?
How did this guy get this job? Help me out here?

(20:09):
When I heard about this, I went crazy. Really, I mean,
is it because he's winning in Michigan. I mean, I'm
not down on the guy. Everybody should get a second
chance in life. But wasn't there someone bett to get
than this guy? I think this is the high school
Eddie Murphy went to.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Also, yeah, I mean, I don't know what kind of
Stallions I don't know the background.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I don't know the connection. I don't know the head
coach who brought him in.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
And if there was a bond between Stallions and that
is it his old high school, any of those things,
it would have seem that if you're an ad who's
kind of vetting out the process, it may not be
the situation that you want. The other thing that we
don't know is how Knic Stallions explained himself, you know,
when it came to the NCAA investigation and all the
things that took place at Michigan.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
What we don't really know is his side of it.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
And if they took his side, if they believed this side,
if they were taking away and see approach to see
what happened cond of Stallions, then you get improved. Look
at some point, you know, if he was involved in it,
then you have the punishment. Then you have to have
an opportunity to redeem yourself. And if this is his
redemption opportunity, then it's on him to take advantage of it.

(21:16):
But I'll never knock somebody for giving him a second chance.
It just seems like.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
You would do a little more vetting before you make
that official.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well, I think it's all about who you know in life.
That's basically what it is. Now.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
The Mumford High School Mustangs, they have not had a
winning season since twenty nineteen, all right, so.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I get that now.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
The head coach, his name is William McMichael, and he
said that obviously Stallions might be the most hated man
in college football.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
But he said, the coaches and the kids at Momford
High School love him. You know, I get it.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
That's okay, kind of smoothing the pavement over there, if
you will. But to me to hire this guy, it's crazy,
he says. McMichael said that the Mumford players call their
new defensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Five star Stallions. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
And honestly, to me, as a defensive coordinator in college,
you would think that maybe somebody would have been better
suited to coach high school kids number one, and maybe
have a better resume than this guy. I just it
just doesn't make any sense. The optics aren't good, that's
for sure. Because as soon as this team starts winning,

(22:23):
because they have it once is twenty nineteen, they're going
to say they won because they cheated. That's the problem.
He may be a great coach and a great guy,
but it just doesn't look good. I think he should
have gone on in the bushes for a couple of
years and come back out again.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, I don't know about that man.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
At some point, we have to have opportunities to bounce
back from whatever mistakes that we make in life. And
if we're saying that he has to go away forever
because of a mistake that he may or may not
have been.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Involved in, I just think that's harsh.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
I would like to think that he would get an
opportunity to show people that he can do good stuff,
that they can impact the community.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
He can be good with young people.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
He can maybe tell his story to young people to
inspire them not to do some of the mistakes that
he is not commit, some of the mistakes that he's
made along the way.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I don't know. I think there's positives.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
I think everyone has something that they can bring and provide,
and hopefully he'll take advantage of the situation to be
a positive influence on that community.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Here's my question to you, and I know you'll have
the answer because you're real smart. Okay, Recently, Tom Brenneman
an announcer got a job back. He was doing Fox
football on TV. He was doing Cincinnati Reds baseball on TV,
and he said a homophobic slur about four years ago.
And as soon as he said that on an open
mic and didn't though the mike was open, whatever it was,

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he lost his job. He lost his job in Cincinnati
with the Cincinnati Reds. His father's a Hall of Fame broadcast.
He was he retired Marty Brenneman, and he lost his
job at Fox. That cut him loose. About a week
or two ago, the acc hired him to do football
and basketball.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
He had to wait four years.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
So I don't know what's worse, allegedly cheating or that
claimed that he cheated on stealing signs at michiganfensive coordina
their stallions, or Tom Brenneman who had a slip of
the tongue and he had to wait four years to
finally get a chance to come back. I don't know
what's worse cheating or saying something stupid. I mean, I
don't know, But he had to wait four years job.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
He did have to wait four years.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
I would say that the directory slur would be more
egregious than if he was signed stealing or doing something
like that, I would just say that regardless of whether
it was an open mic or whatever, I think more
people are going to see that as a very egregious
violation of just like disrespect and you know, like a.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Very distasteful gesture.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
As it comes to Condi Stallions, it's like Conna Stallion's
thing is bad, and he certainly deserves to be punished
for whatever he did with his transgressions. But in both
cases I would say that if they apologize, if they
admit whatever wrong when they did that, at some point
people would give people an opportunity to be redeemed, to
have a chance to bounce back. That it's not something

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that around you like an albatross for the rest of
your life. That you can find a way to make good.
And so like Tom Brenneman finally had an opportunity to
get back into broadcasting world, Connor Standings deserves an opportunity
to coach at some point. Now it may be soon
because it's high school, but it's high school, and high
school's a different level than college, and they're more high school,

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they're more young people. There's maybe a shortage of educators
in those things, they created an opportunity before Tom Brenneman
would have gotten the opportunity to be a broadcast.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Well said, as always, mister Bucket Brooks.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I appreciate that he is Bucket Brooks, I may Deferman
and we are Fox Sports suddenly a Fox Sports ready
now coming up next on Fox Live for the Tyraq
dot com studios. If quarterback ranks first, then this must
be second, and that's next. But a first, I mean
it was always first, Kevin Wyert with your sports.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
Well, hopefully sometimes at least, but in the Major League
Baseball pennant races, the Dodgers at least have been in
first for basically the entire season. They've been in firm command.
But uh, the Padres closing in. The Rodgers lead now
just two games after lafl the Cardinals five to two,
while the Padres took advantage by beating the Rockies eight three,

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so San Diego two games back of Los Angeles for
the top spot in the NL West. The Diamondbacks red
hot coming out of the All Star break, but they
didn't get the win on Saturday, losing to the Ray
six to one, so Arizona three games back of LA
in the NL West. As for that wildcard, though the
Diamondbacks and Padres do hold the top two spots, the

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Braves a game ahead of the New York Mets for
that final wildcard position. In the American League Central, the
Guardians lead is now just two games. They lost to
the Brewers a two to one in the Twins, picking
up a game in the standings after they were able
to beat the Rangers five to two, So again Cleveland
ahead of Minnesota by two games. In the AL Central.

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As for that American League wildcard, it is the Royals
holding that final spot, two and a half games ahead
of the Red Sox. The Twins that second wildcard. The
Baltimore Orioles. They're a game behind the New York Yankees
in the AL least, what they are the number one
wild card team. Both the Orioles and the Yankees did
lose on Saturday, so the Yankees blanked by the Detroit

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Tigers four nothing, the Bronx Bombers only mustering four hits
for the game. The Orioles do loose to the Red
Sox five to one. In the AL West, it was
the Mariners division to lose. It seemed like for much
of the season, but they've been in free fall. Seattle
has now lost five straight games, including a seven to
two defeat to the Pittsburgh Pirates, the Astros widening their
lead in the division. He beat the White Sox six

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to one, so Houston's lead now sits at four games.
NFL preseason, the Bears beat the Bengals twenty seven to
three as Caleb Williams gets his first preseason touchdown, a
seven yard touchdown run. He was six to thirteen for
seventy five yards passing on the day. Not good quarterback
play though for the Pittsburgh Steelers as they lose to

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the Bills nine to three, But justin Fields and Russell
Wilson come by for just one hundred and thirteen passing
yards and Daniel Jones coming back from his torn ACL
he played for the Giants in their preseason matchup for
the Texans, Houston really demolished New York twenty eight ten
as Daniel Jones looking really rusty out there, two interceptions

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including a pick six.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Back to you guys, all right, kef seen it?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Now, all right, If anybody needs a salary bump, it's
this spot and that's coming right up.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
He's bucket Brooks.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I me Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sonny of
Fox Sports Radio. We got bucket books. When asked bucking
about seven eight minutes from now. Heybody is in my
imagination although people are just not talking baseball. I mean,
maybe I'm crazy. I heard the scores that Kevin gave
and the races are really tightening up. But you know,
it's all football, It's all preseason football, but no one's
talking to the pennant races. Baseball's kind of taking a

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second scene, am am?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I nuts? Or is that true? That's what I feel.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
I would say it's true, And as a devoted Dodgers fan,
I would say that this certainly has been the same
buzz in baseball that are in other sports. And I
will also acknowledge that football is king and doesn't matter
what football does. Whenever Football drops something, everyone is going
to be all over it. Preseason games, hard Knocks, episodes,

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any and everything related to football commands more attention.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
That's why it's America's favorite sport.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
It dominates the competition, it dominates the airwaves and all
the things that we talk about.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
So I don't know what has happened to baseball.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
I grew up loving baseball, but football is, without a
doubt the number one sport in the country.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Well that's good. Are you second this? So now I
know I'm not crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I talk a little football right now because you know,
following the Cincinnati Bengals is my regional team, my local team.
The attackle the offensive tackle of Deontae Smith. He's going
to miss the whole season. I would have to tell
the tend injury. That offensive line looks a little shaky
right now.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
And I worry for Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Murrius Mims, their first round draft pick out of Clemson,
I believe out of Georgia has a strained pictorial and
Trent Brown has some backtit in this that was just
the other day.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
So what does that do for Joe Borough?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
You know, what does it do for a confidence factor
of a quarterback? I mean, he knows that he's only
really and truly as good as the offensive line gets
in protection. Right, That's basically is so the question I
have how important is the old line for a quarterback?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Not only the talent, but the cohesiveness.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
And I said, coming into this segment, if quarterback is
number one, and basically you know, we know that if
you don't have a quarterback, you're not going to win.
Then the number two's got to be the offensive line.
And I remember reading this book the late Paul Brown,
the founder, the founder of the Cincinnati Bengals. The first
draft pick ever ever by the Cincinnati Bengals in nineteen
sixty eight was an offensive lineman. It was a center,

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Bob Johnson. He was smart enough to realize that what's
upfront that counts. And I don't think the offensive lineman
get the recognition to pay what they deserve. Maybe I'm wrong,
but I think that the offensive line is probably the
second most important position on the ball club.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
I think some would say you're I mean, look at
some would say that it starts and ends in the trenches.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
But yes, you're right.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
If we're talking about positioning, if you're talking about building
a championship team, you have to have a quarterback to
be able to win at the highest level, particularly in
Pro football. But outside of that, it's a line of
scrimmage league. Offensive and defensive lines are paramount. A lot
of times as a team builder, you think about the
passing game and everything has to be built around the
passing game.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
So we talked about the piece right, it's the passer.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
It's the pass protectors, it's to pass rushers, and then
it's the playmakers, which are typically you wide receivers on offense,
and then on defense, it's a second level player linebacker
that can blitz, rush and cover. There's a cornerback that
can lock up or safety. But it is built around
those things. And if you don't have enough of those
guys in the front line, you just can't do anything.

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You have to be able to control the line of
scrimmage and pass protection. You got to be able to
run the football effectively to make life easy for the
most important piece of the puzzle, which is the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, it's crazy, you know. I look at the Cincinnati
Bengals right now. There are offensive line right now is
in shambles.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
It really is. So what is that You've been on teams?
I mean, you know what it's like.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I mean, you've seen quarterbacks and I'm sure the mumble.
They'll say something to somebody like how can I do
my job? I have no protection? Have you seen the
quarterback cry and wine and say things like that, not
you know, during practice or you know, mouthing off to
a coach.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I mean take us, you know, take us behind the
scenes in the locker room, you played the game.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
What is it like when a quarterback knows he doesn't
have much protection when he's going to get sacked maybe
forty fifty sixty times a season.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
But one thing the quarterback can do is you can't
wine and complain, Like no one wants a winer and
complainer at quarterback. Part of the position is not only
your arm talent, but it's your toughness. How tough is
the quarterback mentally and physically, Because the great quarterbacks have
a level of toughness where they can withstand the pounding
and it doesn't impact the way that they play. But

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you don't want your quarterback to get hit. And so
it's that fine line. If a quarterback is getting hit,
that's problematic. Something that you have to do from a
protection standpoint to make sure you have the pieces around him,
or you have to tweak how you go about approaching
the defense. Does the ball need to come out you
become more of a quick rhythm passing game. Do you
rely on screens and those things to slow down and

(33:15):
thwart the pass rush? What can you do when it
comes to allowing the quarterback to kind of handle some
of those things. Joe Burrow in particular likes he wants
all five receivers out in the route, so he doesn't
want you to hold people in.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
He'll rather you spread it out.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Hey, let's go empty and let me see where the
rush is coming from, and then I'll find a way
to beat it.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
With quick routes and those things like he did at LSU.
Just depends on the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
But your quarterback can't wind to complain because that certainly
doesn't endear him to his teammates.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, so the only staple right now, the only I
guess rock on that offensive line is Orlando Brown. And
to me, I thought that guy was nuts from leaving
Kansas City anyway. I guess money's more important than winning
for him, right, I mean, is that the reason why
would he leave Kansas City to come to Cincinnati? I mean,
he had something really good over there. I mean, I
know money is probably the reason, but come on, he

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got something good over.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
There a little bit.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
But like, I mean, having the good stuff over in
Kansas City is great, But if you're talking about significant
increase in conversation, it's his job to do that, Like
I understand, like everyone wants people to sacrifice with championships
in those things, but look, it's a job.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
And if he's going to be paid.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Significantly more money in Cincinnati than Kansas City, he can't
turn that down, particularly if he's already won a championship
or two.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Like, yeah, you follow the money, like that's what people do.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
It's no different than CEOs and executives in the business world,
no different than college coaches chasing every dollar when they
leave one situation to a next. I mean, at some
point it becomes a family decision as opposed to a
decision as chasing legacy.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
All right, and last, but not least, let me run
this by because Jamar Chase has not yet played. I mean,
he did make the trip to Chicago, I get that,
but he's not playing holding out. He wants more money
and he's got two more years there on the contract,
so we'll see what happens over there. But to me,
that's like a non story in Cincinnati, and it's unbelievable.
You know, the story of brendan Auuk with the forty

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nine ers is like a national story that he wants
more money, he's holding out, But in Cincinnati, Jamar Chase
is like hohold home. It's not a big whoop, it's amazing.
I mean, I don't get it. I don't understand. What
if this was in New York City on a major
market Chicago, New York, or LA like San Francisco, I mean,
be all over the place. But in Cincinnati it's like
buried And when the media asks Zach Taylor what's going on,

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We're working on a plan.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
That's the end.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
We're working on a plan. I don't get it. I mean,
here's a guy, Jamar Chase, who sat out his junior
year at LSU. He may sit out. I mean, I mean,
how good could this team be? How good could Joe
Burrow be without Jamar Chase. That's the key right there.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I mean it's a big key. But they got time
to do it.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
And if they gave him the opportunity to hold in,
then he's gonna hold in a lot of it is
the approach to the teams. You can either make people
sit out, hold out and find them, or you're gonna
allow them to do what they're doing right now. You
never get really a solid resolution. The Bengals have elected
to let him hold in, so it's something the Bengals
more so than Jamar Chase.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
There you go, all right, he's Bucky Brooks. He's holding
in right now. I'm Andy Ferman with Fox Sports Sunday
at Fox Sports Radio. And of course his name is Bucky,
but we call him mister answer Man. Why of course
as Bucky. It's freaking next.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Don't listen no, Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
As Bucky right around the corner' about eleven minutes now
before the top of the hour.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman, and we're live from
the ti Raq dot Com studios.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
But right now it's time for It's Bucky. It's the way.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Okay, here's a crazy one bugging on a run by Okay,
Miami Dolphins linebacker Jalen Phillips. He says he leaves his
pilates class with the glow and quote I read this article.
It says, I voluntarily go to shake like a leaf
and hold myself in these extremely challenging, tough positions and
makes your body stronger, but also makes your mind, in

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soul and spirit stronger. I really leave pilates with a glow.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Why are so many NFL players like Phillips are turning
to pilates and what is it basically?

Speaker 4 (37:09):
So I am a yogi, so I'm a devoted yoga practitioner.
So I believe in all of those things. Pilates, yoga.
They not only help you with your physical like in
terms of stretching, building your core and those things, but
mentally because those postures are so challenging that you have
to turn inward to be able to push through it.

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So it becomes about breath control, It comes about mental
discipline and focus. And for players who are always looking
for that competitive advantage, that edge, it provides you with
skills that translate to pressure situations in game, in life.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
And so I can understand why.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Jalen Phillips feels that way because when you're competing against yourself,
because that's the only competition when you're in lades or yoga,
is can I do more than I did the previous day?
It does give you kind of this confidence that you
can uncle the world. So I understand why it leaves
with a glow.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
I knew you'd have the answer. I knew it, Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Indianapolis, the city of Indianapolis hosts the Big Ten College
football Playoffs. They've hosted the Final Four and Basketball College
and next year they go the Wholds to twenty twenty
five WNBA All Star Game. So Bucket Brooks one of
the best sports cities in America.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
M best sports cities in America.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
I think Naptown is certainly when Indianapolis is unique in
terms of being in the Midwest. I would say Chicago
is a great sports town. Anyone who's taken in a
Cubs game or going to a Bears game or Bulls game.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
You're like that. You can't leave New York out of it.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yankees match Giants jests, even though that ventures into Jersey
and the Knicks playing a home game.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
That's nice.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
And I know people will dump on LA, but LA
is a great sports town with an asterisk if the
teams are good.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
When the teams are good.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
There's nothing like going to a Dodger game or a
Laker game or whatever. Now, if they're not any good,
you're not gonna see anybody there. But when it's popping,
there's not much better than La.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Got youa all right?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Got that?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Who is the most important signing now for the Dallas
Cowboys Is it Dak Prescott?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Michael Parsons or C d Lamb.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
We've got to be Dak Prescott.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
It has to be Dak Prescott because he's a quarterback
and when you talk about the quarterback being the most
important piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
It's him.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Dak Prescott has done a bunch of different different things
for this franchise.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I never has gotten his full of respect. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
People talk about the shortcomings and they'll put a lot
on him, and he has to play better in the postseason.
But Dak Rescott has been like the modelistability at the position.
Dak Prescott has played at an elite level for the Cowboys.
He's the most important.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Piece, gotcha all right?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know, I don't think a lot of people talk
about this, especially when talk about quarterbacks of what they're doing.
But what kind of an advantage does a quarterback and
also does a Dome team have in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
They got to have an advantage, right.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
They can have any but it kind of depends on
how its utilized, how it plays out. The advantage comes
from being able to play in like a climbate controlled environment.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
You can build a fast team because.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
The turf Foster's fast played and those things, but you
have to take advantage of it, like the Indianapolis Coast
did back in the day where they got home games
in the postseason there, because if you don't get it,
your team may not be built to play in the
Northeast and cold conditions in those things. So it can
be advantageous, but you got to be good enough to
take advantage of it.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, I look what happened to Peyton.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
I mean he played all those years in Indianapolis in
the Dome, right, which is somewhat of a cold climate,
and then it goes to Denver and kind of struggle
a little bit. You've been hit on it earlier today
that that team won the Super Bowl because a defense.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
They did, but that was necessarily because of the weather.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
It's because of what happened with his neck, and he
wasn't the same player, Yeah, but it impacted him.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Whenever they played in New England, they had issues there.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
We go, Okay, the coach says, it's still open. Well,
we'll a close that and more. Where Fox Sports Sunday next.
When is he ready? That's right around the corner. Good morning, everybody.
This is Fox Sports Sunday of Fox Sports Radio. He
is Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman and we are broadcasting
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Speaker 1 (41:22):
Do I tire big should be here?

Speaker 2 (41:24):
He is, mister Bucky Brooks, the man, the renaissance man,
the coach, the scout, the personnel man, the player.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
He got it. He's a writer. He's everything you ever
wanted to be. If you're growing up, you.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Want to emulate this guy. He's Bucky Brooks. Bucky, how
you doing?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
I'm great, Andy, how you doing?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm happy. I'm happy to be with you. That's what
I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Because the NFL is only three weeks away, really three
weeks away preseason, three games right now. Look, here's my question.
I understand that they claim that the preseason is to
judge talent. You draft the guy you want to see
if you could play. I'm not so certain you can
really judge a guy's talent or what he's going to
be in three games and practice obviously counts as well.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
And they say, well it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't count.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Well, look the Bengals right now are zero to two,
and I think that when the coach says after the game, well,
you know, we don't really worry about that because you
know it's a developmental thing. With scouting, we're looking at players.
I think that if it didn't worry about it, you
wouldn't keep score. I think it means something. I think
you need to begin and start a winning deal. You

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talk about culture, I think it starts in preseason.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
You got to win. I think those games are important
to win to know what it's like to win. Am
I crazy?

Speaker 4 (42:40):
I mean, look, everything you do creates a habit, and
so you certainly want to get in the habit of winning.
But it's really the way that you play that matters
more in the preseason as opposed to the final score.
Because you can have teams that the first and second
units get dominated, but then the threes come in and
they win the game. You don't feel great about that
win because your top two units didn't play up to

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the standard. It's more so about the field and the
flow that you get from your team while watching them
play in these competitive games, and you want to win
them because you want the young guys and the backups
to understand the importance of winning. But it's more so
a did we play the way that we talk about playing.
Did we exhibit the core traits that we believe.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Are necessary for us to win long term.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
If we did those, then we came away with a
very successful outing during the week. But if we didn't
do that withinn, it's an issue and we got to
figure out how to fix it to get better performance
on game day.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Okay, here's the question. You're a fourth, fifth, sixth round
draft pick.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
You're in a position that the starters that they're loaded
are not going anywhere, but you could be a backup
and you certainly want to make this ball club.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
When do the coaches make the decision on this character? Okay?
Is it during the preseason? In the preseason games?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
If he has an outstanding game, maybe he's a defensive back,
he has two i nts in one game.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Is it, wow, he impressed me, He's going to make
the club? Is it in practice? Is it on film?

Speaker 2 (43:59):
How do these just know you've been there, you've done that,
you've scouted. When do they decide in that room that
this guy's going to make the team. Is it the
head coach, is it the position coach? How does that work?

Speaker 4 (44:10):
It's an ongoing evaluation from the time you walk in
the doors in the offseason program. How do you do everything?
How are you consistent and your approach? Can you get better?
Are you committed again and better? How do you take
care of yourself? Then when you get into training camp
and you have these moments to practice and compete, and

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you in competitive situations, do you do what you're supposed
to do? When you're playing in team drills?

Speaker 7 (44:36):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (44:36):
And then in preseason games do you do what you've
shown to be able to do and practice?

Speaker 4 (44:43):
You know? So what you're looking for are consistent players.
You know, because the players that are consistent, you know
exactly what you're getting in, even if they have some
shortcomings physically, at least you know as you're building your team,
this player is always going to give me this. The
ones that are the hardest to judge are the ones
that up one day, down the next. That's so hard,

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so volatile when it comes to their performance. It's hard
to build a team with guys that are like that
because your team then becomes up and down and up
and down, and everyone wants a consistent team that wins
and plays at a high level. So it's an ongoing evaluation.
How you perform in games matters a little more in practice,
but it's all it's.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
All part of the deal, and I have the treaty,
and I would think one of the most embarrassing things
might be, and it's happened many times it will continue
to happen when a player gets cut and all of
a sudden he goes to another ball club and all
of a sudden becomes a star. I mean, I'm sure
that's happened for whatever the reason. Maybe he wakes up,
Maybe maybe the light goes off and say, wait a minute,
I better stop, you know, busting my rear end here

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to make this ball club to stay in the National
Football League.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Maybe that's the deal. And maybe he just feels more
comfortable with that coaching staff. Who knows.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I don't know, but I'm sure you've seen it as well.
Guy gets cut next to you know, he makes the
All Pro team.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
The most important thing in the process fit in scheme
and culture, Like how do you fit into the scheme
that the team is playing, and how do you blend
into the culture that they've created. Some guys are better
suited to play in different environments because of the coaching,
the voice that he hears in his ears, the environment
that they've created in terms of whether they work harder

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or maybe they take it down or notch and so
there are so many different factors in doing that. That's
why as an evaluator, like guys who are really talented,
you want to kick the tires on them to see
if a new environment, a new coach, a new scheme
can bring out the talent that you saw on them
originally when they were going through the draft process. Man,

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it's in exact science in terms of who pops, who doesn't,
who has success over a long time, who fails. And
so you're always just kind of throwing darts out there
hoping that you can kind of land a handful of
guys that can be the core of your team and
that fit how you want to play and fit the
environment that you want to create.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
And a name comes to mind when you talk about
something like that, I think of Baker Mayfield. I mean,
here's a guy who heralded coming in to the pros,
bounced around a little bit, didn't really make it much,
and now all of a sudden he's got a big
deal in Tampa. He's that guy. I mean, how does
that happen? Is it the system or all of a
sudden he says, look, I got one last chance. I

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better make the best of it.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
A few different things.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
For Baker Mayfield, I would give him a ton of
credit because he had to do the work. When you're embarrassed,
like he was, being a number one overall pick dismissed
from the Cleveland Browns, you go to Carolina. Doesn't work
out there, he humbly makes his way to the La
Rams and plays for Sean McVay. Something in La click
for him. He has some success, and that was enough

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to buy him time to get an opportunity with the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers. When he comes to the Buccaneers, he's
a different player. He's not Baker of Old that stepped
into Cleveland full of I would say cockiness and swag.
He's still self confident, but he's a different dude. He's
a man's man in the locker room. He worked and
grinded and didn't do all the showy stuff that sometimes

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top picks can do. He just really committed to being
with the guys, and he earned their respect through his
work and the way that they played, and then the
team responded to him and became more like him, very competitive,
very feisty, a guy who has won, and so they
started winning. And so he certainly bought himself or created
an opportunity for himself to bounce back.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
But everybody's not built like Baker.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
Everybody's not built to withstand some adversity and some setbacks
and still find their way to the other side. So
I give him a ton of credit for the mental toughness,
to perseverance and all those things that he displayed outside
of the talent that he had.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
No interesting I'm going to give an example here a
New England Patriots, their first year coach, Torod Mayo. He said,
the rookie quarterback out of North Carolina, you know, Drake
may said he definitely quote definitely took a step forward
in that team's Thursday night lost to the Eagles fourteen thirteen.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Okay, what does that mean?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I mean, if I'm in the media room after the
game and I hear him say, as a coach, could
you translate that from me say it took a step forward?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Is he going to be the starter? Is he going
to start?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Is he gonna be the number one? Is Jacoby Pressett
not going to be the guy? Jacoby Pressett's a nine
year pro. He's probably the most ready quarterback for the
New England Patriots to take snaps on opening day. But
when you tell me he's taking a step forward, what
does that mean? I mean, could you translate that for me?
Because I would love to see a media guy. Maybe
the media people are too embarrassed to ask him that question.

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I would have asked Rod Mayo that question.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
What does that mean? Coach?

Speaker 3 (49:36):
It means that he improved.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
It means that from where he was a week ago
to where he is today, he showed improvement, and he
showed an improvement in real time in a game. His decisions,
the production, the performance, all those things stay improved. He
looked more comfortable on that stage. And as he's discussed,
just because Jacoby Brisaid has been there nine years and
the plan was supposed to be that he's going to

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started a handful of games, maybe there's not that much
difference in Jacoby were said in Drake May. Maybe Drake
May's closed the gap where you feel comfortable enough to
just put him out there and say, forget sitting back, like,
we're just gonna put you out there and let.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
You learn on the fly.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
You have to know the player and see if he
can handle the diversity that could come with that type
of approach.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Can he handle getting beat up?

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Can you handle the criticism from the outside, because the
voices are louder now with social media and Twitter and
those things. You have to make sure that your guy's
wired the right way because that stuff can absolutely crush
him and he never gets back from that.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Okay, let's pull it back the onion a little bit.
Here be go, So you're gonna help me with this.
Drake May, the North Carolina guy, took twenty five snaps
in that game. He was six for eleven forty seven yards.
He had a four yard rushing touchdown. He threw a
pass that was dropped and it wasn't his fault. It
was a pretty good pass. And then all of a sudden,
you see perset come in. Jacoby Pressett comes in. He
had three series under his belt. He was three for

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seven seventeen yards and they had a big time zone interception.
All right, Now, as far as I look at statistics,
and look at film right now, Drake May to me,
is moving ahead of Jacoby Present because of that performance. Now,
you played the game, You've been in clubs and you've
seen locker room situations where is somewhat of a quarterback competition?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Is there?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
How do I word this? Is there? Animosity? Is there?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Jealousy? Are these two quarterbacks are a bonding or is
their hatred? Is there one rooting against the other one?
How does that work?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Tell me?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I'd love to see that in person. Is Jacoby Present
rooting against Drake May or vice versa.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Every quarterback room, every room is different.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
There can be one in situations where the quarterbacks are
all in it together, they're looking to help each other out.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
There also can be ones.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Where the starter is clearly approaching it differently than the
backups and he sees them as necessary beings that are
to support him, to give them home work projects, to
help him get ready to play, and he may not
dive into what they're doing and those things. In a
competitive situation, it's really hard on the team, right because
all the things that you learn coming up about team

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we over me and making sure that we put the
collective in front of the individual. Pro football isn't like that.
You have fifty three independent contractors. And as much as
I want the team to win, I need to be
a big part of the team winning so I can
stay around. If I'm just a guy that is perceived
to be a Burger eat, I mean, I make all
the trips, but I don't do anything.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I don't contribute. It's harder in the quarterback room.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
It's about making sure that everyone is given the freedom
and the space to do what they need to do
while hoping that the whole unit comes together. But yeah,
it can be awkward at times between Jacoby Brissett and
Drake May. It can be awkward when you're vying for
the same spot. But you got to be a profession
and put all that stuff to the side and focus
on your job in supporting the team the best way
that you can.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, I can understand that because obviously, you know you
don't want to see a guy get hurt. But certainly
you want to get this starting job on the obelt,
you want to win that position. You want to win
it far and square on the field, feeling that you
had enough chance to win that starting job. But also
I think there are certain players and I don't think
people realize this enough. You always see the term quarterback
competition or you know, a quarterback, I guess race, whatever

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it may be. But certainly certain players bond better with
certain quarterbacks, and we don't hear that.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
And I don't think there's too much of that going on.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
What I mean by that is that if there's two
quarterbacks going head to head in quarterback competition, the media
doesn't really get a hold of the receivers, saying, who
would you really like to see at quarterback? You know,
who works the offense better. The coaches will be asked
that question, but not actually the receivers on the team.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Who would benefit by one quarterback over another?

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Correct, Well, it's hard, right because if I'm a wide
receiver and I say I love this quarterback, what happens
if the other guy wins the job? Then I put
myself in a situation where he doesn't throw me the ball.
So you have to kind of operate in neutral. But
guys know, and the team typically lets you know which
one is going to win, not necessarily verbally, but they

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play different. When the better guys in the game, they
make more plays, and so as a coach, your job
is to kind of read the room, which one is
the best fit for the room.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
It's not a talent based thing.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
It's all of the things, the intangible, the personality, the
leadership skills, the game. Who has the most winning in
tangibles for this unit, this group that we have that
will help us win games. So it's deeper than just
who's throwing it, what's the completion percentage? In those things,
It's about how they lead, how they interact, how they connect.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
And the more I hear from you, the more I learn.
I really do because it's a tough call. It really is,
because the you're responsible. I'm certainly I know it's the
head coach is basically making the final call. But you
get the quarterback coach the offensive to make go to
the head coaches say, look, we need Drake may he's
the guy, and the head coaches no, I want Jacoby
because I think he's got more experience.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
They're gonna go with Jacoby Briscaid.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
I'm sure Chris Mayo's got the final sing right, I mean,
wouldn't that be the way to go?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
It's tough. It's a tough call.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
It's a tough call, But how does the team respond
to Drake may How does the team respond to Jacoby?
Which one is going to give us a chance to
flourish and succeed under their leadership. It's a lot, man,
It's a lot of little things that go with it.
But I would say this, in watching the competition between
Jacoby and Drake may Man, there's a reasonable case that

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you can make they just put Drake may in and
kind of find a way to do it. You're saying
the team is not crazy talented, but put him in.
He can make some plays. You just have to make
sure that mentally he's tough enough to endure the bumps
and the difficult part.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Of the game.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Can he can he continue to maintain his confidence if
you lose six, seven, eight in a row, if he
is getting beat to a pulp in the pocket.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
More so trying to preserve their mental than the physical.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Let me ask you this, and this really is like
a question out of left field. They do a lot
of preparation before a games, a lot of play action,
a lot of scouting, a lot of plays drawn up.
You know these coaches they claim they sleep on the
couch as they have to one in the morning. If
that's the case, and they want to do matchups. How
come they don't switch quarterbacks on a weekly basis. If

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I know that Drake May is going to be better
against the Jets and Jacobe PRISSEATID, why wouldn't I start
Drake May? You know, looking at their defense, they Drake
May would do a better job. Don't Why can't they
switch quarterbacks on a weekly basis or against various teams
if they think they'd be a better fit.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Why don't they do that?

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Because the team?

Speaker 4 (56:47):
How does the team respond to the revolving door, Because
every time you switch the quarterback, you switch.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
The wave.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Receivers have to adjust to the balls that are coming
in the way. The team has respond to the cadence
because no one has the same rhythm when it comes
to the cadence and all of those things. So that's
why you try not disrupt the entire team. But you
do wonder why teams don't go to those type things
more if you have an even thing, not that you

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alternate them, but why not being quick to pour the trigger?
And a lot of times we are impacted by the
outside noise, the public, right, but the public is influenced
by the guys who are normally calling the game.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Who are those guys quarterbacks?

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Quarterbacks are rare to advocate like hey, yeah, just switch
them all in and out because their own personal experience
would tell.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Them like, no, if I'm the man, I want to
be the man.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
I want to have the opportunity to go through the
ups and downs of being the leader of the squad
in my unit.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Interesting, Okay, I mean at least you short have met
me halfway that it's a possibility that maybe they could
switch quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
And it's not going to happen, but it would.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
It would take someone who is bold enough to do
it right.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
You know, who's bold enough, who's empowered enough to be
able to do it, Like a Mike Tomlin could do
that in Pittsburgh with Justin Fields and Russell Wilson, he
may be going out because because he's he's empowered, they
believe in him. The team believes in him in those things.
So it just depends on the coach and how will
entrenched he is.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Thank you you really helped me out there, because I
thought it'd be a stupid question, but I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I really do. He is Bucky Brooks, He's the man.

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Speaker 1 (58:37):
But if not now, then why even talk about it?
That's next.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
If he really wanted him, he'd be working now. All right,
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this right now, because I want to talk about Colin Kaepernick,
and sometimes it's best to say less.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Saying less is best. Even people tell me that all
the time here.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
But if Colin Kaepernick wants to join the LA Chargers,
it's not going to happen until next year.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Why do I say that?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Because he wants to be a member maybe of Jim
Harbard's coaching staff. And this is what harbar said, quote,
I love Colin, but he's not going to be under
coaching staff which is set for this year.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
And he's not going to be playing on the roster either.
This is what he said if the practice just the
other day.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
And obviously Harvard coach Kaepernick the forty nine ers from
two to twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
But here's my deal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
You know, he said he got in touch with him
when he got the job back in January about being
a coach. You know, if in fact he wanted to
hire him, why didn't hire him?

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
Then?

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Why bring this up now?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
So, as I say, if he was going to do it,
he'd be working now, why bring up Colin Kaepernick's name. Now,
I don't understand this whole situation. I'm a fan of
Jim Harbaugh, I really am. I like the guy I
wanted to see him do well, and he will do
well because his track record shows that he's going to
be successful again in the NFL. But the capertive thing
that it's an open and shut case. He'd called him

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in January, not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
You got a staff. Why bring his name up now? Again,
I don't understand it. Tell me what did he bring
up his name?

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Or did someone ask him a question about Colin Kaepernick?
Because if someone asked him a question, and it's his
duty to answer that question. And he just tried to
provide more contexts as to why Colin Kaepernick was either
contacted or asked, or.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Did he consider bringing him on the staff or any
of those things.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
The Colin Kaepernick story is one that probably is more
buzzy outside of the football world and inside the world
when you haven't played as long as he's played, like
the NFL has moved on, like it's unlikely that he
would ever get a chance to play in the league
at his age, like you know, mid thirties and those things.
And that's not saying anything about how he quarterbacked the

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last time we saw him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
It's just a father time. We make it unlikely that he.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Would be able to carve out a role for himself
on the squad. It'd be interesting to see what Harbard
says or does when he talks about him as a
coach and those things, because one of the things that
has happened with the Chargers is he's brought a lot
of his former players back to be around his interns
in those things. Through our training camp, Michael Patty's up there.

(01:01:44):
I think Navar Bowman may be helping out a little bit.
So if Colin Kaepernick came, it would be another player
who can provide perspective and context on how Jim Harby
likes doing things.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
I would say this, though we talked earlier to you,
abou kind of Stallion is the guy that was alleged
cheating to see stealing signs at University of Michigan. He's
a high school defensive coordinator and he got a job.
Colin Kaepernick, to me, got screwed big time, no doubt.
He's thirty seven years old now and he's never going
to play again, as you mentioned, But here's the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I feel bad for the guy. I mean, he had
some talent.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
I mean people talk about what he did off the
football field, but he had a twenty nine to sixteen
record as a starter. He was in the playoffs and
honestly he did well. You know, he played in the
Super Bowl. He started quarterback with the Super Bowl. What
was it against the Baltimore Ravens. So the guy basically
got screwed. He was made an example of. And that's sad,
and I'm glad a guy like Jim Harbaugh is even

(01:02:39):
bringing his name up, and maybe next year he will
be on the staff. But I don't think maybe now
was the time, and maybe you're right, maybe he was
asked by immediate guy. I doubt I don't think the
media people are that smart. He will remember that that
he coached Colin Kaepernick in San Francisco. I don't think
they're that smart. But to me, it was meaningless. He
either hired the guy or you don't hire the guy.
The case closed, but the door, I guess is still open.

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And I certainly hope Jim hires him next year because
he's a guy who really got screwed big time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
He did.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Yeah, I mean, like I played out, it played out,
but he didn't get an opportunity to play again, which
is kind of unprecedented for a player of his talent level,
particularly the way that he was finishing. People make the
things about, oh, he couldn't do this, he can do that,
But we've seen lesser talents continue to get multiple opportunities.
In fact, Nathan Peterman just signed again to play with
the Raiders and he doesn't have the talent that Colin

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Kaepernick had.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
At his best.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
But some of the league is just that it's opportunity.
Can you get an opportunity, can you get a fair shake?
And it's never fair, but it goes like that. I
think for cap when it comes to the charges, it
really comes down to what Jim Harbrough wants to do,
and more importantly, what does Colin Kaepernick want to do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
If he wants to coach, if he wants to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Play, he should make those things known to the people
involved that can help him accomplish those things. But as
a player thirty seven years old, it's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
I mean, it's over with.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
It's about coaching or be a part of a team
in a different administrative role more so than anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
You know, the older I get, the more I see
how hypocritical the media is. And I'm sure you see
that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
And what do I mean by that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
You know, they took about Colin Kapenick as a coach
and no one said boom, no one said anything about that.
The guys had no experience, but he may very well
be a good coach when they asked Jim Harbar about that.
So you know, Al Davis saw something in me that
made him think that I would be a good coach,
and I see the same things in the same qualities
in Colin and that's what he wants to choose.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
He wants to be a coach. I would hire him.
But people went crazy when the Lakers hired JJ Reddick
with no experience and Colin Kapack Kapernick has no experience
as a head coach. No one says anything. You know,
I think it's a pick and choose with the media.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Right well, and also he hasn't been hired, Like if
Colin Kaepernick was hired, you think that mainstream media wouldn't
go bananas about Colin Kaepernick, Like he couldn't even have
a try out without it becoming like in the news
cycle at the top of the thing. Yeah, we pick
and choose, and it's one of the things that's frustrating
as a media member, like just kind of seeing the

(01:05:02):
state of the industry when it comes to those things,
as I'll talk about, like with JJ Reddick, I didn't
have an issue with JJ Reddick because I'm a former player.
I always will advocate for former players having opportunities to
coach the game that they played in because there's this
stigma and bias that former players are good enough to
play but not smart enough to do the other stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
So I hope JJ.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
Reddick plays and has success as a coach because it
will open the door for others to be able to
do it. We saw a recent trend in the National
Football League where former players were getting job drive Mayo
being able to get a job on the heels of
Demiko Ryants having success in Houston. So I'm pulling for
those guys because it creates more opportunities for other former

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players to jump in and coach and do some of
those things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
You're exactly right, And the day that Colin gets a
job as a coach, the media will go crazy. They
will I don't know if they if they really and
truly believe it, or it's a great talking point to
stir the pot.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
It's one of the other but then again, it just
makes me sick. They're waiting, they're waiting in the bushes.
As soon as he gets the job, boom, that's gonna
be the story now that he got hired. But why
did he get hired? Because he had no experience? And
one other thing, well, I look at Colin Kapnick. The
big thing the right about him is like, oh, he
had a twenty nine to sixteen record as a starter.
That to me is the most ridiculous statistic, a meaningless

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statistic in the National Football League, a quarterback record as
a starter.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
You're a team. It's a team game. It's not the
quarterbacks deal, right, don't you agree with that?

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
I don't agree with that because ultimately the quarterback is
supposed to win. It's no different than a pitcher in
baseball who gets credit for the win. When we ultimately
had the conversation in the first hour about the goat,
how do we determine which ones are the goat? We
talked about Tom Brady and his seven rings. Well, the
seven rings go along with wins. He didn't win all
those super Bowls by himself, but he gets credit for that.

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The first three to Tom Brady won were on the
heels of a Patriots defense that really carried the weight. Now,
those last four you can talk about Tom Brady. But
so if we talk about winning John Joe Montana, he's
to go because of he won four times, Pat Mahomes
because of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Winning has to matter.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
If not, you're just in the vacuum performing but not
doing anything that helps your team win.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
So winning has to be a part of the evaluation.
When we talk about quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
You caught me again. You win again. Not only do
you win in bon and barrel betting, you win in
every argument I have with you. But it's okay. I learned,
I was. I'm not upset by quarterbacks. I learned from you.
I really do. I just thought it was a silly statistic.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
When you make the comparison to Major League Baseball pitchers,
You're right, Bingo, you're right, You're right on they do that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
You know, picture what his record is against that team.
You're right. I'm with you, and you told me to it.
These are the things that I learned from you. I
really do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
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(01:08:12):
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Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
Major League Baseball, the Pennant races taking shape and out
West the Dodgers up. They're leading the NLS now down
to just two games. They were in firm control of
this division all season long, but they lose to the
Cardinals five to two, and when the Padres winning at
eight three, San Diego now two games back of LA.
The Diamondbacks. They've been red howk coming out of the

(01:08:43):
All Star Break, but did not get the win on Saturdays,
so there's still three games back of LA in third
place in that division. They fell to the Rays on
Saturday six to one. The Braves get the win against
the Angels eleven to three. So for that National League,
while it is the Padres, Diamondbacks, and Braves holding those

(01:09:04):
three spots. The Mets, though, are one game back of
that last playoff spot. The Mets did get the win
on Saturday, they beat the Marlins four to nothing. The
American League Central starting to tighten up. The Cleveland Guardians
beaten by the Milwaukee Brewers two to one. The Twins
taking advantage, they get the win at the Texas Rangers

(01:09:26):
five to two, so Cleveland's lead in that AL Central
now just two games. In the AL least, both the
Yankees and Orioles lose on Saturday. The Bombers blank by
the Tigers for nothing the Yankees, which is four hits
in that game. The Orioles lose to the Red Sox
five to one, so the Yankees still one game up
on Baltimore for the lead in the American League American

(01:09:50):
League East the wildcard though for the American League it
is the Orioles and Twins holding the top two spots,
the Royals in front of the White Sox currently two
and a half game for that final wild card position.
The American League West, it was the Mariners division to
lose much of the season, but it's slowly slipping away
from them, as they've now lost five straight, including a

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seven to two defeat to the Pittsburgh Pirates. The Astros
getting a win against the White Sox six to one,
so Houston's lead in the AL West has now grown
to four games. In NFL preseason football, Caleb Williams gets
his first preseason touchdown.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
It was a seven yard run.

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
On the day, passing he was six to thirteen for
seventy five yards as the Bears do beat the Cincinnati
Bengals twenty seven to three. Not good quarterback play though
for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They lose the Bills nine to three,
but Russell Wilson, justin Field's combining for just one hundred
and thirteen passing yards, and Daniel Jones coming back from

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his torn acl as the Giants played the Texans, but
Houston demolishes New York twenty eight to ten, as Jones
throwing two picks, including a pick six.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Back to you guys, all right, kep seeing it now,
all right, it's all talk. I'll explain that in just
about a minute. He is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman.
We are Fox Sports, Sonny and Fox Sports Ready about
and barrel betting in just a couple of minutes from now.
And I guess the big talk, the big talk off
season right now is the dragging of the Dallas Cowboys
quarterback contract Dak Prescott. Prescott, and there's now his final

(01:11:21):
year of his deal set to make twenty nine mill
this year. That's going to count like fifty five million
dollars against the salary cap and without an extension, which
he's looking for, he'll get free agency in March and
about forty million dollars against the Cowboys cap in twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
All right, this is a big deal. I don't know why.
I don't know why he's not signed. Look, you know
as well as I do. But the longer it takes
them to sign him, and I took a bout Jerry
Jones signing him, the more money Jerry Jones is gonna
have to pay. And I don't get it. Is it
an ego thing for Jerry Jones? Does he want the exposure?
What's more? Pr it's called to cost him? All right?

(01:11:56):
And Dak Prescott says talks are on the right way,
all right? What is that mean?

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
The right way?

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
You either have a signing or you don't have a
signing and look, Dak has him by the you know what,
by the gon Ads because there's no other option in
the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
So he knows he's going to get his money. If
not now, he's going to get it later.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
So when you think about it, yeah, he absolutely going
to get his money, and he deserves to get his money.
I don't know why the Cowboys have been dragging if
he paying him, but yeah, he understands it, and maybe
he is looking to go elsewhere. Maybe he's not in
the rush to get it done because he wants to
hit free agency and hit the open market and become
a sixty million dollar quarterback and maybe pick and choose
where he wants to play and who he wants to
play for.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
If I'm Dak Prescott, I would get tired of having
to always fight for my money.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
That's a fourth round pick.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
I couldn't get my money when I outplayed my contract immediately.
I then had to sit on a franchise tag and
risk injury, get injured, get my money, and now here
we are again, eight nine years in, I got to
do it all over again. Yeah, that can be tiring.
Get me annoying. But what it also would do is, yeah,
I'm not giving you a hometown discount. I'm not giving

(01:13:02):
you the oh, let's do for the team thing. Yeah,
he's not gonna do that because he doesn't have any
reason to, given how the Cowboys have treated him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I think that Dak Prescott to me, is one of
the most underrated quarterbacks in the National Football League. You
look at what he's done, look at the statistics. I mean,
it's a shame that a that team is so popular,
it's such a microscope that it's under that they could
judge so rue. I mean, they did a most watched
team on TV every single year, no matter what they do.
But the fact that they have not really done much

(01:13:32):
in the last several years, and I haven't won a
championship in some twenty five years, he gets to blame
for that. Although I think he's a tremendous quarterback, and
you're right, he might be better served going to another
team and leading into victory.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Hmm, that's tough. I heard what you're saying. That's tough, though.
I don't know if you leave another team and go
to victory. But I understand what you're saying. I kind
of get it. I'm trying to be a new wave
thinker like you, Andy, But I don't know. I don't
know if I can go all the way.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
You don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
I hope he stays there because I think they could win.
They won twelve games last year. I think they could
win and they could certainly win with him. They got
to sign C. D.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Lamb. They got to sign him as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
But here's the big question, the biggest question of the day, really,
can the quarterback salaries that they're getting right now, could
they ultimately ruin the National Football League and maybe the
power structor structure for players' salaries, because when a quarterback
eats up so much money on the roster and there's
not much left for anybody else, and when seeing that
maybe it's happening in Dallas, is that going to hurt

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the NFL down the road. I mean, these quarterbacks again,
big time money and they I'm not gonna say they
deserve it, but they did the team.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
They make the team go. You don't have a quarterback,
you don't win.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
But could that ultimately kill the National Football League because
the's no money left for anybody else.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
It could if you don't know what you're doing, if
you don't know how to manage conversations, communication and budgeting, Yeah,
it could be problematic. But you have to have real
conversations with the people for that come up, and they
may not like what you have to say, but I
think you have to be direct and honest. You also
have to have some values or some things that you
stand on that you're not willing to relent on. We

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saw the off season program with Joe Shane and the
Giants and they talked about running backs and twenty seven
years old being when they fall off the cliff. Well,
that's what you believe in. You stand firm in that,
and you don't make any exceptions to the rule. You say, Man,
I love you as a player, but this doesn't work
for us. You don't fit what we're looking for. That's fine,
that's Everybody's not gonna be a fit for everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
So yeah, there's some things that can be done.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
You know, they wouldn't sign sae Quon balk and not
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
They let them go. They let them go to a
team in their own division. I mean, from what I've saw,
are the Giants what they've done in they Love season.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
It's very foolish, it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
And Daniel Jones is not going to lead them to
any place or anywhere, especially the Promised Land. Yesterday he
looked terrible, he did, so I just you know, look
you stand, Pat, I hear what you're saying. But say
Kwon Barkley was their offense, and they let them go,
and now he's going to hurt them two times a
year when they play each other.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Not good. It's not a good move.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
No, not a good move at all. Not a good move.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
But I'm happy for Sa Kwon because he's gonna win.
Now he'll be on a winner, so that's good for him.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
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Speaker 7 (01:16:51):
It's been a while since I've been on the seat
for this and I'm excited to do it. If you
guys don't know how to play this game for our listeners,
I basically just give Bucky and Andy's some bets that
I found on some betting websites and see what they
would choose. All right, guys, you guys ready, Actually, before
we go into this, Ian actually sent me last week's
last week's match, and you guys actually tied because the

(01:17:11):
darts match ended in a draw, leading the score to
Buckie seventy three and Andy fifty eight. Andy, I've been
gone for what two months? Three months, and you've really
you haven't gotten any better.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I fit excuse it's I think the TI win the
ties of win.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
For me, it is, it is a win for you.

Speaker 7 (01:17:27):
But you know what, I I think we're gonna do
a new season and we're gonna reset the scores from
this point. So it's zero zero right now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
And it's a clean We will be a chick with
Buckey on that. He may not want to go Bucky.
Is that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Is that alright with you? What do we want to do?
We want to start all over.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
We're gonna do a zero zero clean slate. I mean,
let's start with the NFL season starts. Let's do that.
We'll do that.

Speaker 7 (01:17:46):
We'll do a season two then, but let's get right
into it. In the Brave Combat Federation a World MMA promotion,
bajaaz Care is taking on Zero today at six am.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
It's just zero.

Speaker 7 (01:17:58):
By the way, Bajarat con is plus one fifty while
Zeo is minus two hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Let's bucket go first.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Give me the name is Baja? That was first. Yeah,
let's go Bajara.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
I'm gonna go with zero because it's pretty close to zero,
and that's what I do. When this game zero, I'm
gonna go with Zeo.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
All right, Well, let's see what happens with that one.

Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
So in the Tanzian Premier League, which is a soccer
league in Tanzia, uh Simba s C is taking on
kit Ta yose F C at six fifteen am today,
Simba s C is minus five hundred, while kit Te
Yosi f C is plus one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Killing me, smallest kid. Get some Easia names. I'm gonna
go with.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
These are the easy ones.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
I can't pronounce the other name. I'm gonna with Simba.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Really Bucky, I gotta go to opposite. I gotta go to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
He can't pronounce it either. Let's go.

Speaker 7 (01:18:51):
I swear these are the easiest names in the in
the Tanzian Premier League. In the Chinese Professional Basketball League,
the TSG Hawks are taking on the CTBC Brothers. Easy
names for you guys. In little under thirty minutes, the
TSG Hawks or plus one thirty while the CTBC Brothers
are minus one seventy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Who's up me, Yeah, it's gonna be you Andy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
I'm gonna go with the brothers because I think they
play well together. The ct BC Brothers, obviously players are unit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
I think they're gonna win, all right, I go to opposite.
Since this is preseason game, it doesn't matter TSG.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
This is preseason. Their preseason games is a preseason is preseason.
Don't need to put a whole lot into this.

Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
We're going to Saudi Arabia for the Call of Duty
East Sports World Cup, where Optic is taking on Atlanta
Phase at seven am in the semi finals of the
whole tournament. Atlanta Phase and Optic are both minus one
fifteen to win.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Who you guys got I'm gonna go with an Optic.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
I'm gonna go with Phase. We want to phase right
out of here, really, and then with the last one
in the shine? What do you get these games from?

Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Will you? Can you get a little more normal games?
Isn't that the point of this game?

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Bottom barrel betting? Are you really good? To the bottom
of the bottles? The point of the game. Sorry, I'm
doing my job.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
Man, Come on, I mean I would think I would
think there's someone who's argument like that, like you're throwing
him a.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Golden parachute with his regular should be very nice. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:20:23):
I tried resetting the game for you. You know, we're
not resetting the game anymore. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's
just it's not gonna happen anymore. And you know what,
we can't even get to my last my last thing because.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
You just kept going. It's thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
I do need that time.

Speaker 7 (01:20:39):
It's I mean, do we have time? We Mark says
we don't have time, So we don't have time. I'm sorry,
what is Mark? Seems like you don't there? We go
here that ten okay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
If there's a question on every NFL team, we'll give
you the answers and more where Fox Sportsney coming up
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we'll answer it, that's right around the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
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I sometimes feel that I lean on you too much
because I'm so stupid. I have to ask so many
questions in the world of football. So I apologize to

(01:21:35):
you that I put so much pressure on you. I
hope you're not upset with me. I hope you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
No, please, no.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Fresh at all. I enjoy it. I enjoy it all.
I enjoyed it you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
I love working with you. But you know that I'm
I'm kind of like between the years, you know the week,
if you know what I mean. It's a nice way
of saying, not as intelligent as you in the world
as football. You've been here, You've been there, done that,
you played the game. I learned so much from you.
So that that's why I want to apologize. Because I
sometimes ask you questions and you probably think they're stupid,
but maybe most of the general public thinks are the

(01:22:06):
same questions I do. I don't know, but that's why
you're here, and I love having you here. But we'll
talk about the NFL. The season opens in just a
matter of days right now, and I gotta believe fans know.
Fans know if their team is going to be a
competitor or loser. Fans know in New York that it's
all about Aaron Rodgers and the jete. If Aaron's hurt,
if it doesn't play well, they ain't gonna win, okay,
And coaches know, don't coaches know, Bucket Brooks, don't they know,

(01:22:29):
but they won't admit it that their team doesn't have
much of a chance. Don't they know that there's Kevin
O'Connell of Minnesota. No, that doesn't have a real good
shot with Sam Donald right now?

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Does he know that?

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
WHOA, that's what we think. We thinking this Sam Donald
doesn't give them a chance to win, that they.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Should already pack it up.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
No. I think what coaches do is I think coaches
are always on the optimistic side of well, the great
coaches are what can I do to put my team
in a position to win?

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
How can I.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Either change the pieces of the puzzle, change the way
that we play. How can I find a way tactically
to put myself in a position to be in the
game in the fourth quarter. And even though you don't
have the personnel we've seen in the league, the National
Football League, the Sunday League, any given Sunday, you have
an opportunity, the margin of error that the talent discrepancy

(01:23:21):
is never that significant where you can't win.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
It's just a matter of can you the field in
your favor.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Well, let's talk about the players right now. I'm looking
at the media in and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Around Cincinnati right now and I laugh at it. It's
fun it's a fun thing to do, but it's a
meaningless task. It's a waste of time. They're telling everybody
what the Bengals are going to do. One guy says
they'll do ten and seven. One guy says they'll finish
eleven and sixth. And it's such a foolish thing to
do because there's so many factors involved, including injuries, and
right now their offensive line is going down like flies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
But what about the players.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Do they look at the schedule and as they enter
the season and they say, you know, you think we
could eke out seven and wins eight wins.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
You've been on many teams.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
I mean, do they do that before the season, look
at the schedule and pick out the games that they
think they're gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
I mean, you may look at a schedule and kind
of see.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
How it lines up for you, but you never know, man,
because you don't know until teams start playing how good
they're really going to be. You look for certain things
where you may have an idea, Okay, this is gonna
be a difficult stretch around for us. You know, we
may have to tighten it up and got to figure
out a way to navigate these three games in eleven
days and those things. But you don't go into it
chalking up dubs and ls. You try and figure out

(01:24:36):
what can I do to put my team in the
best position during this stretch and.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
You hope that it works out in your favor.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
But it's an ongoing thing because you don't know how
your team is going to be at any part of
the year in terms of injuries, rhythm, chemistry, all of
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
All right, So you're a member of the Carolina Panthers.
They were horrendous last year, they were terrible, and you're
gonna camp this year. In the back of your mind,
I mean, certainly there's a a lot of pressure for
them to win. They got a new coach and they
got their second year quarterback coming in there. You know,
do you really believe you got a chance to go
to the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Honestly?

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
I mean, you just want to be somewhat competitive and
maybe if you could reach the five hundred level. You
know what you can't do because they play seventeen games,
But if you can win eight nine games, there'll be
a tremendous season. I mean, isn't that the way it is?
If you a remember of the Panthers right now.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
I mean, I mean you gotta crawl before you can walk,
before you can run. If you're the Panthers and you're
coming from a situation where they were coming from, you're
Dave Canalis, the first thing you're trying to do is
ask them stability, identify the players that are your core players.
Teach the team how to play the way that you
see fit in terms of your version of the right way. Okay,
once you get them doing that, now let's consistently begin

(01:25:48):
to practice and prepare so we can have those kinds
of results each and every Sunday, whether the wins come
or out, but how we play that matters. And then
you begin to stack on top of it. But you
go into the season with an open because no one
really knows how it's going to play out. We've seen
teams every year they're five or six new participants in
the playoffs. Some of those teams we had no expectations

(01:26:09):
of them being there. For instance, the Houston Texans last year.
No one expected CJ. Stroud and that team to be
a playoff team. You know that as a team that
could win games. But c J start coms, they get hot,
they go and there they are in the playoffs and
they win a playoff game. You're keeping out open mind,
You're working toward the vision that you have for the team,

(01:26:30):
and you just keep stacking days and you see what
it looks like at the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Would you say, I mean, you're a sportsman, You're a
big Dodger fan, you love baseball, and you follow all sports.
But would you think that in football, is it the
best opportunity for Team A to be team being any
single day? When I say that because I look at
last year when the Raiders beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
That was a big day.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
That was unless the Chiefs just you know, kind of
set to themselves. I mean they look at the uniform,
you know, the players look at the uniform of the
opposition and say, you know, we should have a rollover today.
I'm sure players do that. It's a psychological deal. I
mean you just look at certain teams just say you
look at the standings, look at their one loss record,
and look at the uniform, say we don't need to
get up for this team.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
We're gonna win. And they didn't. I mean, the Raiders
beat the Chiefs and that was a big win for
the Raiders last year.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
It was a big win for the Raiders last year.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
You would like to think that everyone can get up
to take everybody with the same kind of approach that
he they're nameless, faceless people that some coaches would talk about,
but it's impossible to do that. What you hope is
they have enough maturity to handle their business when it's
an opportunity to play the game. And it doesn't always
look the way that you wanted to look, but it's

(01:27:42):
the maturity that you talk about. Hey man, let's go
in here, let's take care of business. We're better than
this team. Let's finish them. And the good teams are
able to do that. The teams that are up and
down when it comes to their preparation and process, they're
the ones that have tougher times winning those games that
they should win.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
And also we talked about this early on. I think
there is something to be said about getting off to
a good start and winning early, you know. And again,
you know, they say preseason games, exhibition games don't mean
much just looking at talent evaluation things like that. I disagree.
If that's the case, they wouldn't keep score. I think

(01:28:21):
it means something when you lose. I mean, I look
at the Cincinnati Bengals as the team in my negative woods.
They're all and two already, and they've always traditionally in
the last several years gotten off the slow starts. I
think last day they started two and five.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
You just can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
You can't be competitive if you have a slow start.
And it all starts in training camp. That's what it does.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
It really does.

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
Yeah, it does start in training camp, and it starts
you know what I'm saying, Committing to the grind of
training camp, but also making sure that you do the
little things each day to put yourself in a position
to be in games late. You want to be playing
your best football down the stretch. And as much as
all of us like as CO, which is are people
that are in the game want a team to go

(01:29:03):
eleven and oh or twelve and oh or seventeen and
oh whatever, it's not about that. It's who can play
the best football in November, December, January. So the first
part of the season is to figure out who you
are as a team and how do I need to
play with this set of players that I have to
put us in a position to be at our best
down the stretch. That's what coaches are doing the first

(01:29:24):
eight or so weeks of the season. They're experimenting, they're seeing,
they're identifying. We thought it was going to be this,
but now we have to play like this. Okay, now
we got the formula.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Now let's put it into play and let's get better
at doing what we need to do to win games.
That's how it goes, and so you just don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
And that's why the National Football League get so great
because teams come out of nowhere and it's just which
is the hottest team at the right time to get
it going.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
You know, you said something early on which I think
is worth repeating the fact that you like what Andy
Reid does in the preseason. He plays his regulars, he
plays his starters because they getting game ready shape so
when they get into the season, they're ready to go.
They don't have to get the rust off the first
two three weeks of the season. And we want to
know why other coaches don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
You know, really, and you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Said early on, they did it when McVeigh kind of
put his starters in in preseason several years ago, and
he won that way, and other coaches kind of followed suit.
It's just one of those like a copycat league. I
just don't understand why other coaches don't do that. And
we'll bring up another factor. Back in the day, and
I don't know if you remember this, and I kind
of remembered a little bit, but back in the day,

(01:30:30):
instead of playing three preseason games, I remember when they
played six.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Do you remember when they played six preseason games.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
I don't know, that's way too many preseason games. I
remember it was.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
It was a lot, but they did played. I remember
when they played six and they had two a days.
When when Paul Brown was coaching the Cincinnati Bengals and
they practiced up in Wilmington, Ohio, they played six preseason games,
and I think that got team's game ready when the
season started. I mean they were playing. There was no
talk about holding regulars out back then, six preseason games.

(01:31:01):
You'll went out and I'm sure Paul Brown may he
rest in peace, he went out there said we're gonna
win all these games.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
That's what it was. It's a different mindset now. I
think things are reason also that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
Right, Yeah, But I will also say the difference is
they also didn't have off season programs. So when you
go back to those teams that didn't do that, like
training camp was the time that they got everybody into shape.
And so you're talking about what six to eight week
training camp where they're starting from scratching, they're building you up.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
It's a different time. There are ways to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
And I'm not saying that you got to pound on
your players the entire time to get them ready, but.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
You got to get them sharpened a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
They got to play a little little taste to understand
what is what is going to be needed to be
to be a winner. And sometimes that requires them to
play a little more. Sometimes it's about less, but you
gotta you gotta play a little bit to get ready
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
No, I understand. I mean it's again I mentioned this
early on. If you're a boxer, you better get some
prelimited bouts in before you go to the championshipt. You
just can't go in there and fight with anything else.
I mean, you know baseball players that spring training, I
mean it's it's mandatory. You got to get in shape.
You know, it's your body and you have to play.
But right now, it's an entirely different animal. I mean,

(01:32:18):
they want to eliminate preseason games. There's only three of
them right now. And honestly, I read these reports on
the preseason games like they only had like twenty three
guys suiting up in one team the other day the
regulars aren't playing. I mean, how is Aaron Rodgers going
to get in shape if he doesn't take a snap
in preseason?

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
I mean really, now, it's different though, so and the
reason why I can, I'll say it is this.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Okay, So I was lucky enough to play for the
Buffalo Bills right on the heels of there when they
went to four straight Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
So it's ninety four.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
That team we want had gone to four straight Super Bowls,
had dominated the AFC, and when I went to training camp,
it was it was my first exposure to pro training
camp in man. I would say, in my experience, it
was almost country club like in terms of the way
they got together, didn't really put the pads on, wasn't
a very physical camp, really took care of the players.
Maybe they practiced for an hour and a half and

(01:33:12):
then they were off the field. But it was a
mature team that it played a lot had won a
lot and had enjoyed these long postseason runs under Hall
of Fame coach and Marv Levy, and so you see
them operate that way.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
I didn't go to Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
I played for Mike Holmgeran, who came from the San
Francisco way of doing things, which was similar. It was
more about the mental than the physical. Hey, let's get ready,
there's a pace to practice. Let's bounce around. We'll start
with pads on, we'll go through our nine oh seven
run period. Then we're gonna blow to whist. So take
your paths off and now it's about the execution, running
around doing it. I played for Marty Schottenheimer, who should

(01:33:49):
be in the Hall of Fame because he has two
hundred regular season wins. And it was a physical, slobber
knocker practice session every day when you beat people up whatever,
and it was a physical affair.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
All of those coaches won, and one at a high level,
but they all took different approaches.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Sometimes it's your philosophy that messes well with the players
that you have and they buy into a man, we're
a little grinded out. Other Times you go somewhere and
it just doesn't work out. For Andy Reid, his approaches worked,
just like Sean mcvay's approaches work. I think the most
important thing as a coach, you got to be authentic
to what you believe in and what you believe works

(01:34:27):
for you. You can't be somebody else, and so you
got to experiment and figure out what works for the
type of player that you have and then roll with
it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
I hear what you're saying, but I picked up on
something that we mentioned this. Sometimes you practice with the
pads on, sometimes you practice with pads off. I never
understood that as well, And again I never played the
game the next time I suit up here the first
time I saw, I wouldn't even know how.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
To put the pads on. To be honest with you,
but if you're going to play with pads and show
the pads on in a game, why wouldn't you play
with them on in practice because you need to wear
them in the game. Why not practice with what you're
to play with during the game, right?

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
Well, the physicality in contact. If you beat your people
up during the week, they may not have anything left
for when you need them on Sunday. But most importantly,
the most importantly, the CBA has restricted how many padded
practices you can have during the course of the regular season.
I think the old CBA you only used could have

(01:35:23):
fourteen padded practices the entire season.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
So you had to pick and choose when you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Would use those padded or physical practices throughout the course
of the year and then maybe the last four to
six weeks. You can't put the pads on. You have
to do it in a different way where it's more
we're moving around, we're mentally, we're going through walkthroughs and
those things as opposed to the grind of playing football.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
So there are ways to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
You have to teach you the guys have to practice,
because the most important thing about practice is the execution,
the pace and the rhythm, and then staying up because
you don't want to get your guys hurting practice because
you're reckless and careless with the physicality in those things.
So a lot of it is teaching guys how to practice,
teaching them how to stay up, getting them to go fast,

(01:36:10):
but letting up, operating at what they call thud tempo
where you make a initial contact but then you let
you guys go. A lot of those those things are taught,
and so good coaches start teaching those things in the
off season in terms of here's how our practice has
to go so I can take care of you to
make sure that you can be around all seventeen games.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
The great Paul Brown is in the Hall of Fame
as a tremendous coach and founder of the Cincinnti Bengals
and coached in Cleveland at the Cleveland Browns. He said
that he only practiced for forty five minutes. He said
he got everything done in forty five minutes, and maybe
they did two days back in the day, but he
did it in forty five minutes, and these guys are
doing an hour and a half two hours. I think
that comes a little diminishing returns.

Speaker 4 (01:36:49):
Also, well, if you go back and you study the grace, right,
so Vince Lombardi practice about seventy five minutes, and those
first fifteen minutes were conditioning, and they would do like
you just go back and look at those old films
and you'll see his guys running laps and doing everything
because conditioning was a big part of what he believed
in when it came to winning games. But I think

(01:37:12):
Paul Brown, I think Vince Lombardi. I think a lot
of those guys were right when it comes to how
to get their team ready. Hey, let's be efficient, let's
get in and out, let's do what we need to
do and then move on to the next thing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Amazing, it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
I mean it's such a scientific situation, it really is.
And I think players know if a coach is real
or not. What I mean by that, you would know
that Marv Levy would be faking it if he started
yelling and cussing. That's not him, Tony Dungee, that's not
cuss right, So you got to be yourself and I
think players know that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
You'll say, what's this guy doing? But you know, just
you know, Forrest Greg when he coached CINCINNTI Bengals, I mean,
meeting was frightened for me to go. You go into
a news conference with that guy, He'd bite your head off.
It's just the way Forest Greg was and the players knew.
They responded to it as well.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
You know, more character quality. You have to be authentic
with the players. You can't be someone that you're not
because they'll see through it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Every day. They want to know that you're going to
be consistent.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
So when you show up, if you're not your authentic self,
you're gonna have more inconsistencies in terms of how you
handle things. If you show up good, batter and different.
If you're a yelling, screaming and that's who you are,
you need to be that every day. But you can't
be he I'm gonna be the teacher type. I'ma be
the Tony Dungee type on one day and then I'm
gonna be the Volidi lunatic the next day.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
Like that doesn't work for your team. They're gonna tune
you out.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
So you just have to You have to figure out
who you are, and you have to coach to your personality.
And if you coach to your personality, then you always
have a chance to success because the guys know that
the person standing in the front of the room is
a person that's going to be that same way each
and every day.

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my friend here, Bucky Brooks. You know a lot of
these people pick these standings prior to the season. They say,
where's the team's going to finish in each division? You know,
what's the record gonna be. I think it's a waste
of time.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
I think the better thing to do, and maybe I'm wrong,
but you could tell me is to go look at
every team.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
And one of the big question marks, what's the Achilles
heel for each team in the National Football League? And
I know, Bucky Brooks, you have them. I have a couple.
I'm gonna go down the list, and I did say
for one of them, one is all about the rust
on a quarterback and that's gonna be the Cleveland Browns.
You know, if Deshaun Watson is he ever going to
regain his pro bowl level form? That's the big question.

(01:41:03):
Twelve games as a Browns quarterback, his completion racing rating
is under sixty percent the hots per game but one
to eighty okay, pass the rating about eighty percent, well
below marks in four seasons that he had when he
played in Houston. Can he get back to the level.
That's gotta be the big question, I guess for the
Cleveland Browns. Anything else for Cleveland, No.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
It's all about Deshaun Watson because they have a team
that's talented enough to be at the top of the
charts in the AFC. But the quarterback has to play
at the level that everyone expected him to play when
he came over from Houston. Well, we also have to
understand with him, he may never get back there when
you think about the long layoff and the rust.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
He didn't play his final season in Houston.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
He then had this suspension that kept him from playing
when he first got to Cleveland. Last season, he played
a handful of games and he was injured. So in
three years, we really haven't seen Deshaun Watson. It's hard
to keep your game up at a high level when
you haven't played that long. They changed the offensive coordinator,
Can doors He comes in, so that may help him
as Ken Doorssey builds an offense around Deshaun Watson's talents.

(01:42:05):
But I think it's hard to expect him to get
back to that Pro Bowl form until we see him
play at a Pro Bowl level. It's been three years,
three years since we've seen him play at that level.
We can't assume that he's ever gonna get back to
that level.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
Wow, that's big. That's a big deal for Cleveland, it
really is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
And speaking of quarterbacks, I think the question mark obviously
in Arizona, it's got to be the quarterback as well.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
With Kyler Murray.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Okay played in eight games last year, but he played
in those eight games after that knee injury. And right
now he's got Marvin Harrison Junr. But is he going
to be an ad to Marvin Harrison Jr. Can he play?

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Marvin Harrison Junior is gonna have a big rookie year.
I've gotta believe he will do that, But is it
going to be because of Kyler Murray. So again, quarterback
question in Arizona, quarterback question in Cleveland. Do you agree
on the Arizona situation?

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's some questions about caller
Murray just in coming back and what this offense looks
like with him fully back? Can Marvin Harrison Junior and
Michael Wilson because Michael Wilson is a young player that
they have high hope so on can they create enough
in the passing game to force teams to defend them
differently and maybe create some room in the running game

(01:43:12):
and control of the clock and those things. Team played
better than Anticipator under Jonathan Gannon. But now second year
in how does the coach get the quarterback and his
number one target, Marvin Harrison Junior to play at an
elite level? Because if they play as an elite level,
it gives this team an opportunity to build an identity offensively,
and then that makes it easier to build a complimentary

(01:43:32):
package around what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
You know, you talk about quarterbacks and obviously if there's
a question mark on a team, basically point the finger
at the quarterback. Now looking at the NFC South, which
is not one of the stronger divisions in the National
Football League, and the Atlanta Falcons have not won that
title in that division since twenty sixteen. Kirk Cousins is
the guy if he's healthy, because he's coming up an
injury as well. He could help the Atlanta Falcons get

(01:43:56):
over the hump and give them that title. But now
the question is is it going to be Kirk Cousins
or is Michael Pennox June You're going to push him
out of a job.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
No, I think it's opposite. It is Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
I do think it's weird that Michael Pennick Junior isn't
playing anymore in the preseason. As valuable as it is
to have your guy ready to go, he still should
be able to You still want to get him ready.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
For the pro game.

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
And Rayanie Moore said he saw enough in the first
game to keep Michael Pennix on the sideline. So it
just means they have a lot of confidence in the
young quarterback, but also they have a lot of confidence
in Kirk Cousins. They just want to make sure they
have an insurance policy in place to take care of
the quarterback. With Kirk Cousins, though, the Falcons should play better.
They made a recent trade to get Matthew Judon. Defensively,

(01:44:40):
they should be good. Justin Simmons comes over as a
last minute addition as a free agent to go with
Jesse Bates. Quietly, the Atlanta Falcons have put together a
nice roster, they have a new coach. The expectation is
that they should win. They should roll right to the division.
They should win the division. If I'm looking at the
talent them compared to others, to the most talented team,
they should be the best team in the division.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Wow, all right, you know he those are question marks
obviously with Cleveland, Arizona and Aadana. I'm looking at the
Baltimore Ravens right now. I don't think it's a major question.
I think it's a situation. What I have to work
it out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
What do I mean by that?

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
Lamar Jackson, to me, it is great. I love Lamar
Jackson MVP last year. But right now he's gonna have
the best running back on his ball club that he's
ever had, and that's in Derreck Henry. But Derek Henrys
thirty years of age. He's not going to get thirty
carries a game. I don't think, But can the offense
structure and attack that can get Derreck Henry involved, you know,
in the best position for them to succeed. That's the

(01:45:35):
question right there. Can Lamar Jackson work congruently with Derrick Henry?
Is that is that a major problem? You think, Well,
they'll work that out.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
I think they can work it out. I think they
can figure it out. The main thing that they have
to do is.

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
What is the best way to make sure that both
of those guys are available during the stretch run. So
we talked about having you playing your best football in
November December. How can Baltimore Ravens build an offensive package
that allows them to lean into the Lamar Jackson Derek
Henry combination in noveverm in December? That might mean preserve
Derrick Henry early a little load management, don't wear them out.

(01:46:12):
Let's try and keep the carries to under fifteen or
so a game and then slowly ramp it up as
we get to the part of the year that really matters.
Just down the end, it's a dangerous team with Derrick
Henry and Lamar Jackson and the thought of all the
things that they can do in the ring game. You
just want to make sure that you got them all
available and ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
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(01:46:51):
see this show Fox Sports Sunday right after we get
off THEA. Now, can losing be contagious for at least
one team? For at least one team? That's coming up
next live from the Tirack dot Com studios. But first,
here's a guy who's never a loser, Kevin Wyatt, with
all you four.

Speaker 6 (01:47:08):
Well, Unfortunately for the Dodgers, they couldn't have said that
much of the last couple of weeks as they've really
sputtered in the NL West. So their lead now down
to just two games. They lost to the Saint Louis
Cardinals five to two, the Padres picking up a game
in the standings after an eight three win at Colorado,
so the Dodgers lead San Diego by two games. The

(01:47:29):
Diamondbacks have been red hot coming out of the All
Star Break, but they're only able to get the win
on Saturday following the race six to one. So the
Dodgers lead San Diego by two Arizona by three, but
the Pods and Snakes both hold the top two wildcard spots.
The Atlanta Braves occupy the third and final wildcard spot
in the National League. They are a game ahead of
the Mets. The Braves did beat the Angels eleven to three,

(01:47:50):
but the Mets did keep pace with a four to
nothing shutout of the Miami Marlins. As for the American League,
the Guardians lead now just two two games. They fall
to the Brewers two to one, while the Twins take advantage.
They pick up a game by beating the Rangers at
Arlington five to two, so Cleveland's lead over Minnesota is

(01:48:12):
two games. The Kansas City Royals currently occupy the final
wildcard spot. They're ahead by two and a half games.
They got a thirteen to one win against the Cincinnati
Reds the AL East, it's still the Yankees ahead by
a game, as both Baltimore and the New York Yankees
losing on Saturday, the Bronx Bombers held to just four
hits by the Tigers as a Detroit wins at four nothing,

(01:48:35):
the Red Sox taking care of the Orioles five to one.
And in the American League West, the Mariners seem to
be in the driver's seat for much of the season,
but they've been in free fall of late. They've lost
five straight games six of their last ten, including a
seven to two defeat to the Pittsburgh Pirates. Meanwhile, the
Houston Astros getting a win against the White Sox six

(01:48:56):
to one, so their lead in the AL West increases
to four games. In the NFL preseason, Caleb Williams getting
his first touchdown a seven yard run. Passing wise, he
was six of thirteen for seventy five yards on the
day as the Bears do beat the Bengals twenty seven
to three. Steelers though, man, they could kill for some

(01:49:18):
good quarterback play right now after what they saw on
Saturday from Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. One hundred and
thirteen yards combined by those two quarterbacks as the Steelers
not getting anything going on offense, as the Bills do
win this one at nine to three. Daniel Jones coming
back from a torn ecl and really struggled in his
first game action as the Texans roll over the Giants

(01:49:41):
twenty eight ten. Jones with two interceptions, including a pick six.
Back to you guys, thanks keV All. Right, now, it
is one big question for the Super Bowl winners.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
We'll get to that. Hey just about a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
Of course, he's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we
have Fox Sports Sunday of Fox Sports Radio the blame
game in about seven eight minutes for now, and I
want to talk about those Super whether that's the Kansas
City Chiefs. Obviously that they can't be the Detroit Lions.
They lost again yesterday, what third twenty four to twenty three.
But the big question here, we talked about question marks
of various teams coming into the season. I think the

(01:50:12):
question mark has to be Rushie Rice, the second year
wide receiver. He did catch four passes from Patrick Mahomes yesterday,
but there's a situation there with a suspension on the
horizon for that street racing thing he did back in March.
What have you heard of anything about him being suspended?
And if he is, that's going to put a big
cloud over the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
It's gone away. No one has talked about it, like.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
I know, no one's going about it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
No one has talked about Rashi Rice. They haven't talked about.

Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
Any of the impending suspensions or off field transgressions that
he's been involved in. It's almost as if it didn't
happen once to see if he got here.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
Like I'm sure they're counting on him to be the
number one receiver, to be their number one playmaker, and
they're going to bring in Xavier Worthy and with Hollywood
Brown being out, they really need Rashi Rice to be
available and to be a major piece of this offensive puzzle.
But you just don't know because it has gone very
very I mean eerily quiet in regards to the suspension

(01:51:13):
or any punishment or anything that could be on the
way for Rashi Rice.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
And you know, I guess no news is good news
for the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
But at some point you have to think there's a
day of reckoning that's coming when it comes to Rice
and his issues.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
I'm with you right there, but I'd like to see
it go away, but I don't think it will, all right.
I mean, I mentioned this question coming up to the sevement.
Can losing be contagious for one team? And I'm talking
about the Jackson with Jaguars. I mean, they lost five
of the last six games, and they were on the
outside looking when the playoffs started last year. And I
know they signed Trevor Lawrence to a big five year

(01:51:46):
deal in the offseason. But this losing situation, I mean,
like you say, it's like a.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Like a habit.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
This habit for me, I mean, can Doug Peterson turn
it around because you lose five out of six? You know,
you end the season with that tastes in your mouth?
Can that pick up? I mean, I don't know. I
mean you would have the answer to that. But I
think if there's a question on that ball club, that's
the question. Is losing contagious and the way they ended

(01:52:12):
the season not unlike the Philadelphia Eagles. Can that roll
into the next season?

Speaker 4 (01:52:19):
It can if you allow it to, or it can
lead you to make changes that allow you to bounce
back and be a better team going forward because you
learn from those painful losses that you suffered down the stretch.
For Doug Peterson and the Jags, I would say they've
learned from it, they benefited from it, and you will
see a more connected and cohesive team. I think it

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also when you lose the way that you lose, five
down out of six, you now have to examine the
entire operation, from your exes and o's, to the players
that you have in the locker room, to the connection
that you have with the front office. All of those
things have been evaluated. All those things have I would say,
going through the pressure and the stress of having that
self evaluation, and you try to make changes to put

(01:53:04):
the team in the best position in this best position
to play and flourish down the stretch. I think if
you've seen them play in the preseason, there's a different
vibe and energy around the team. But now that it
really matters until you get to the regular season. The
Jaguars have to play better. They have to put together
beyond just winning. They have to get used to competing
at a high level. And the only time that you're

(01:53:26):
going to be able to really see if they bounce
back and learn those lessons when they kick it off
in the regular season begins.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Okay, you talk about a team with a question mark,
a team with everybody's pointing fingers out, obviously looking at
Dallas as a team because they haven't signed big three
players over there. But I think another team right there
with question mark is the Buffalo Bills, and I think
that the graft right now on that team is pointing downward.
And one of the big reasons is they decided to
trade four time Pro bowler Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
So what does that do?

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
That puts a lot of pressure on Josh Allen. You're
going to see right now who made whom? Okay, did
Josh Allen make Stephan Diggs? I don't think so. Did
Stefan Diggs help make Josh a better quarterback? So we're
gonna see what happens. Who's going to be his receiver?
There's a lot of pressure on him with the new
cast of past catchers on that ball club.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of pressure on Josh
Allen to make your work. I mean, you've heard the
conversation like people have acted like Stefan Diggs was a
handful to deal with. But I do know four straight
one thousand yard seasons walked out the door, and they
don't have a viable replacement right now. You're hoping that
the young player Kenyon Coleman can do that. You're hoping

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that Dalgon kin Kid and Dawson Knox Skin anchor the
passing game as they go more too tight end sets.
But you don't know because you don't have a number one.
And I would say also lost in the conversation about
the Bills, you not only lost Stefan.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Diggs, you lost Gabe Davis.

Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
Gave David signs with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and even though
you know he was the number two wide receiver, he
had at least six touchdowns in each of the four
seasons he was with the Bills. He averaged over sixteen
yards per catch, so he was the explosive, big play maker.
You lost your top two eyes in terms of what
anchored your passing game. You have to hope that those

(01:55:05):
other guys can do it. And so it puts a
lot of pressure on Josh Allen to do what we
will call the Pat Mahomes thing. Can you elevate a
cast of unheralded pass catchers and make them play at
a level that allows you to play playoffootball and championship
caliber football.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
Did go?

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
I'm going to roll over now to the Houston Texans
because obviously that's what Stephan Diggs is and they also
have Joe Mixons.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
So we have CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Stroud, who is a top rookie in every major pissing
category last year and he was the NFL Offensive Rookie
of the Year. Now he's got some more firepower with
Joe Mixon the running back of Stephan Diggs, that makes
them even more I mean, I don't think there's many
questions on that team right now.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
The Houston Texans are there.

Speaker 4 (01:55:46):
Not a loaded but I say the hardest thing to
do is to go from being the hunter to being
the hunted. They're now going to get everyone's best game.
They are the measuring stick in the AFC South. How
did they respond to that? It is a lot easier
to be the challenger than to be the champion because
the champion has to take all that extra energy that
these foes come into the ring with and you gotta

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find them off.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
That'd be a different experience for the Houston Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
There we go, all right, Bucky brooks Andy Furman. Together,
we are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready to
take the gloves off, point your finger. Why the blame game?
And freaking next the blame game right around the Ben's
about eleven minutes now before the top of the hour.
He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman and we're live from
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Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
But right now, let's play the blame game. You ruin me.
It's all your fault, it's your fault.

Speaker 7 (01:56:36):
What is it all your fault?

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
Maybe it's everyone's faults, the liar. That's why there's the
blame game. The blame game. Let's figure out who to blame.
He's a playing game. Yeah, here's mister blame himself, mister
Shay Shay. Take it away, Shae sha.

Speaker 7 (01:56:55):
It is me, mister blame himself Shay.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
So let's start it off.

Speaker 7 (01:57:00):
I'm gonna read, obviously a couple of since instances that
are happening in the world of sports, and you guys
are gonna tell me who is to blame.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
So the first one.

Speaker 7 (01:57:09):
Notre Dame announced a one year suspension for its men's
swim team after an external review found chronic violations of
NCAA gambling rules. Who do you blame, Andy, Let's start
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Well, obviously it's like these swimmers on the team, they
were betting on their own races. I don't think it's
that big of a deal. But when you're surrounded with
betting on your phone, betting on TV, edge, on radio,
everywhere you go, it's place a bed, you tempted to
do that, and it's not a bit incentive for you
to race, and maybe race even better in practice at

(01:57:41):
least because you got money on the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
So I don't think it's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
But I blame the environment itself because there's too much
betting going on.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
Kick it away from it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
Yeah, I think you haven't. You're asking kids to live
in both worlds, right.

Speaker 4 (01:57:54):
You're asking them to be involved in the fantasy football
space and all the other things that they've done that
makes them very very comfortable in terms of betting on themselves,
of betting on teams. But now that you're at a
higher level, they don't want you to bet, and because
you have gambling sponsors and all this other stuff. I
think it's a little blur for the players. It has
to be very clear for them, and I won't absolve

(01:58:15):
them for blame. But I think parents and adults around
them have to make it very very clear what's legal
what's not because so much of what they do on
their phones and devices, it kind of messes into their world,
all right.

Speaker 7 (01:58:29):
Next one, two feuding wealthy businessmen are fighting over sand.
Mark Antenasio, owner of the Milwaukee Brewers, has been sued
over construction tactics in his twenty three million Malibu home
by his billionaire neighbor, who says the homeowners move sand
from the public beach onto his private property. Who do
you blame, Andy, Let's go with you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
Oh, it's quite obvious because the neighbor of Mark Antonasio
is not a Milwaukee Brewer fan, so he wants to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
Screw them over. That's what he's gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
Why would you get upset about guy taking sand from
a public beach.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
Let it go, Let it go, you full hey man, Look,
if you have a homeowners association or something like that, like, hey,
you don't want him taking away and enjoying the fruits
of what everyone should.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Be able to benefit from, making it his own.

Speaker 4 (01:59:14):
And so if he's taking sand illegally and putting it
in the spot like, no, I don't like that. Look,
I paid a pretty penny to to live alongside you,
so you just don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
The rights because you're a billionaire. So now we're gonna
fight about this.

Speaker 7 (01:59:27):
Three members of the Dallas Cowboys are looking for contract
extensions QB Dak Prescott, wide receiver CD Lamb, and the
linebacker Micah Parsons.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
No news yet. Who do you blame?

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
I mean Jerry Jones for stalling and allowing it to
get like this. Most team builders would never allow it
that your three best players have to do contracts all
at the same time, especially when they can be three
of your biggest money players. Should have taken care of
Dak Prescott last year so it's not an issue, But
now you've kind of let it spiral out of control.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
I don't know how you get this back if you're
Jerry Jones, are the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Easy to blame Jerry Jones, But I blame the system.
I mean, most of these guys who run the contract
let him play at that contract.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
You know, it's all about the money. It's about I
want more than you.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
That's basically going It's all about If players didn't find
out what other players made, we wouldn't have this problem.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
That's what the bottom line is. But it is Jerry
Jones fault because he signs a check.

Speaker 7 (02:00:21):
The Commanders have signed receiver Martavius Brian, a Clemson man
who hasn't played since twenty eighteen following his third substance
abuse violation.

Speaker 1 (02:00:29):
Who do you blame?

Speaker 3 (02:00:31):
I mean, I don't know. Like, he hasn't played in
a long time.

Speaker 4 (02:00:33):
I don't don't know why you were saying someone who
hadn't played since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
It's crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
I wouldn't sign the guy if he signed in twenty eighteen,
if he didn't have a drug abuse problem. But the
fact that he has won the NFL. Come on, Roger,
do something, Roger could though, you know what's going on.
Guy had drug problem though, who knows?

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
I don't know. We move on.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
Okay, Hey, by the way, who's doing the checking on
the Boosters data?

Speaker 4 (02:00:55):
Moore?

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
Where Fox Sports Sunday coming up next? There's always one
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Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Andy. What's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:01:35):
Well, you know, things are great.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
I want to take a little bit of a to
from football for a second, because college football basically is
right around the corner. And when we talk about college sports,
you got to talk about nil, name, image, and likeness.
If you will, just talk about that, the good, the bed,
and the ugly. As this season really is rolling. This
next week USC's playing LSU should be a pretty darn
good game. But the name, image and likeness, I want

(02:01:59):
to get the the nitty gritting on this now. The
good the good. To me, there's players deserve to be paid.
There's no doubt in my mind that when a college
increases enrollment, there's selling merch, they're getting on TV, they're
getting promotion. It's all because of the workers, and the
workers are the players. They deserve to be paid. I
think we both agree on that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:19):
Yeah, no, no, they certainly deserve to be paid absolutely.

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
Okay, the bad all right, here's the bad part of
NILS if there is user word bad, maybe the weak part,
if you will, but I call it the bad part. Well,
how much should they get paid? And obviously the schools
that are paying them the rich will get richer. You're
getting a quarterback at Ohio State claiming I guess they
claim he's going to get close to a million dollars.
You know, other schools can't afford that. They just can't

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do it. So you know, how much do these guys
get paid? And certainly some schools are going to profit
better than others. You know, it's hard to make it.
It's hard to make it equal. There's no doubt in
my mind. It's it's never going to be equal because
the Toledos of the world are never going to be
as strong as they are hire states of the world.
But there's got to be some sort of an even
way to get it done because right now it's not fair,

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it's not good.

Speaker 4 (02:03:08):
No, it's not gonna be good, and there needs to
be some kind of regulation like someone to over saying
and say, hey, do's that much money you have to
play with when it comes to spending on your players,
Like there's a salary cap in essence, and then you
can pay people accordingly.

Speaker 3 (02:03:22):
But it's a weird thing.

Speaker 4 (02:03:24):
As the wild wild West. There's no governance over any
of this stuff. And so you've seen these weird things.
And you have my gunny coming out talking to Hey,
we do negotiate during the year. I'll talk to you
after the season because you have agents of these players
who now are calling in favorable at favorable times for
them to maybe try and renegotiate the deal. It's always something. Yeah,

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college football is a mess right now.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
Yeah, not only is it a mess, thing about this
in a college football coach is going to go into
the home of an eighteen year old kid and kind
of try to tell mama and papa to tell the
kid to go there.

Speaker 1 (02:03:58):
I'll watch out from make sure it goes to classes, whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:04:01):
It may be.

Speaker 2 (02:04:02):
Now you've got to go in there with a checkbook.
I mean, you got to promise him to play, but
also you got to promise him to pay. I mean,
it's unbelievable. So my question also as far as the
badness concern with nil is who deserves more, the revenue
or the non revenue sports.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
Obviously the revenue.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
Sports are bringing him money to the school to football
and basketball, But does that take away from a swimmer,
a track guy, a soccer player. I mean, who gets more?
But maybe if you negotiate on your own. I'll give
you an example. There was a woman at the University
of Cincinnati who won a medal in the hammer throw
in track and field at the Olympics. That's a non
revenue sport. She got a lot of notoriety for the school.

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
She should probably get something, at least something good, some money, right,
That's my take on it.

Speaker 4 (02:04:48):
I mean, yeah, I mean it's some good, but I
think all of it is broken, right, So, I think
too many people are quick to blame the players for
the system being garrived with a transfer portal in Io
without blaming the coaches for also driving.

Speaker 3 (02:05:04):
Up the money. When it comes to salaries.

Speaker 4 (02:05:06):
You have guys like Debo, I mean, dum Sweeney, Dabbosweeney
and those guys making ten million plus as coaches. I mean,
no one said you have to pay your coach that,
but they continue to get.

Speaker 3 (02:05:20):
Paid like that.

Speaker 4 (02:05:21):
Without anyone ever talking about the escalating coaching salaries and
how much universities are paying to maintain the coaching staff.
The players, look, this is payback for all the years
that they couldn't get anything and everybody was profiting off
of their laboring those things. I don't think those players
will change. Yeah, it's annoying to deal with their parents

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and those things, but without like structure, a set structure
that every team gets a quote unquote one million dollars
collective where they can pay all their people and all
those things, it's hard to regulate because you got the
haves and the have nots, and you have people that
can ever play on a level playing field.

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
What you're going to see, my opinion, you're going to.

Speaker 4 (02:06:01):
See a group of schools go and play kind of
like their elite college football. They gonna have all the
money go there or whatever. And then you have another
set of schools that are comfortable playing sports, but they
don't want to get into the high cotting of what
that is to play with the Ohio States and the
Michigan's of the world, and you'll see a natural pecking water,
just like you have division one and Division two, Division three.

Speaker 3 (02:06:21):
You'll see some of these.

Speaker 4 (02:06:22):
Teams go down and be comfortable playing outside of that
elite ranks because the money just prevents them from getting
up there.

Speaker 2 (02:06:29):
You touched on something very interesting just now. You told
them with the coaches how much money they're making ten
million dollars over it may be, which I think is
way out of whack, but you know, people are quick
to kind of make mention of salaries that quarterbacks make,
and honestly, the quarterback makes the team gone.

Speaker 1 (02:06:46):
We've mentioned this, and I think.

Speaker 2 (02:06:47):
Even if you're just a casual observer of the National
Football League, you realize that if your team does not
have a quarterback that can play, you ain't gonna win,
you know, And basically that's what it's all about. Maybe
that's why to deserve the money that they get, because
without a quarterback, you're.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
Not going anywhere. But in coaching, you know, you can
get a coach that doesn't make t million dollars and
maybe still win. You know, when when did this happen
that these coaches get this kind of money. I think
it's somewhat out of whack, don't you It is?

Speaker 4 (02:07:18):
But college sports a big business. The money has to
go somewhere. We're gonna let the universities take all the money.
Like the universities the athletic departments, they take all the money,
they don't spend it on anything.

Speaker 3 (02:07:30):
The players do all the work.

Speaker 4 (02:07:32):
I mean, I understand the coaches should get there for shake.
My only thing is this, you can't exclude the players.
The players have to be able to benefit from the
money that has gone into college athletics over the last
twenty five to thirty years. What has happened and the
reason why all those lawsuits finally came back against him,
is college sports benefited and exploited the athletes. Yeah, we

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can talk about free education, but there's nothing free about
the education. If I have to come and have to
practice and have to do all these other things, that's
a part of it. So it became a Look, it's
an employee employee employer relationship, which demands that you unionize,
you have insurance, you have all these other things that
should be a part of it. I don't like the
way it's going because I think people are leaving school

(02:08:15):
after four or five years without college degrees. Like, yeah,
they make a while of cash, but it's not a
higher learning situation for them. There's a way to be
able to do both. There's a way to graduate and
also benefit from the money. There's also a way to
make sure that all the money's not going in the
pockets of the coaches in the ads, but it's also
filtering back to the players, whether in real cash or

(02:08:38):
in programs and things that help them succeed when it's done.

Speaker 3 (02:08:41):
So there's a lot of stuff to do it.

Speaker 4 (02:08:42):
But until you get leadership in place to touch on
all those things, it's pointless. We're just the dog chasing
us on tail.

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
Yeah, But so eventually I think the college is going
to bakway from the ANTW double at the ant double
has no more power, they really don't. And then colleges
excuse to do it on their own, which basically they're
somewhat doing it. Now, let me make a left turn
for a second, and for just a second, we talked
about the quarterback salaries in the NFL and coach of
salaries in college.

Speaker 1 (02:09:07):
Tell me the difference, and I hear this term all
the time. What is the difference between an elite quarterback
and a franchise quarterback? I like to know what is
the difference and give me an example if you could.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
Collegiate level of the pro level well on the n NFL,
because I hear it all the time in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (02:09:24):
Elite and franchise.

Speaker 4 (02:09:27):
Okay, so I think the terms have been blended. So
elite to me, you're talking about the top five, top
ten percent of the league.

Speaker 3 (02:09:35):
So if we do that, if we are really.

Speaker 4 (02:09:37):
True to what elite means, which will be the top
ten percent of society. They're thirty two teams, that means
there are only three to five quarterbacks that should be
regarded as elite in our game. And what has happened
is those elite quarterbacks have you nver? I know Patrick
Mahomes is included that and whoever else you want to
throw into that elite category. But what has happened People

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have justified paying quarterbacks that they want to retain by
calling them franchise quarterbacks instead of being honest and saying, hey,
this guy's.

Speaker 3 (02:10:09):
Not good enough.

Speaker 4 (02:10:09):
If we're going to compete and we want an elite
quarterback because we need elite to compete with.

Speaker 3 (02:10:14):
Patrick Mahomes, well then it was your guy. Ever be elite.

Speaker 4 (02:10:18):
If he's not elite, don't pay him like an elite player,
it gets out of whack. And the reasons salaries have
gotten out of whack is because you have guys who
are not elite making elite money. So let's talk about
just couldn't just happened last night Daniel Jones? Right, So
Daniel Jones got to forty million dollars. You remember how
hard it was for the quarterbacks to get over forty million.

(02:10:38):
It was like Pat Mahomes first, and then Josh Allen,
then de Seaun Watson came and got the guaranteed deal,
but it pushed him over. Well, Daniel Jones came up
won fifteen like they won in the playoffs. He had
fifteen touchdown passes and only five interceptions, but they paid
him forty million dollars, which put him in the.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
Category of Josh Allen, then Pat Mahomes and those guys.

Speaker 4 (02:11:00):
The issue that you have is when you pay him
that expectations all right, well, if I pay this, I
expect him.

Speaker 3 (02:11:06):
To play like Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (02:11:08):
There's never a universe in which Daniel Jones is gonna
play like Pat Mahomes, right, But the money makes you
expect that he's gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:15):
So that's what's happened.

Speaker 4 (02:11:16):
People are playing elite prices for above average to good players,
and that's where you're going.

Speaker 3 (02:11:22):
That's where it's going to, right.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
Thank you very much. That's what I wanted to know.
That's all I needed to know.

Speaker 2 (02:11:26):
Now that back to the nil for a second, I
think the bear does in fact outweigh the good right now,
because there's a lot of confusion in the nil. But
what about this University of Miami, Florida booster John Ruiz.
John Ruiz has a business called Life Wallet, and according
to reports, his business is going on it's going to sink.
So I asked you a question now, because they say
this guy was like mister Miami. He was a Miami's

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nil king. Why does that affect Miami's sports? And who
would Miami? The university has the jot to check the
potential boosters and their revenue stream the fact that they
won't go on there. For example, if a kid is
promised maybe half a mill whatever it may be, half
a million dollars has a quarterback University of Miami and

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they say, well, don't worry, Ruiz is going to give
him the money, and his business goes under. What happens
and can the kid get out of his deal or
his so called contract and lead the University of Miami.
I'll go to another school and negotiate for more money
because he can't get it out of Miami.

Speaker 1 (02:12:24):
Because the guy backed out because his business is going south.
That's the question right now. Is there someone that polices
the boosters and their boosters bankroll? That's the problem, I would.

Speaker 3 (02:12:36):
Think now, there's no one that can release that unless
you have collectives that can be regulated. There's no one.

Speaker 4 (02:12:44):
It's just a bunch of money that's going everywhere and anybody,
and everybody can pay players in whatever manner. Until there's
like a uniform way to regulate in io and the
things that come along with in IO, We're going to
continue to have these issues and is disappointing when.

Speaker 3 (02:13:03):
You look at it, but it's just the way of life.

Speaker 4 (02:13:05):
And so the college landscape is completely changing and we
have to get ready for it. And we can momanthesize
the old way, but it's gonna change. It's gonna be different,
it's gonna look different. But I mean, we'll see how
it all shakes out. I just know wheout leadership is gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
Fall apart now according to reports Now.

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
In the SEC filing, Rui said that life while his
company is his large scale medical claims company, had made
a seven point seven million dollars revenue last year, but
they suffered a net loss of two hundred eleven million dollars.
All right, but here's a guy and he's an attorney. Also,
he was the leader behind the push for a new

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stadium for the University of Miami football and he's committed
millions of dollars and back in twenty twenty one when
nil rules were passed, he emerged now as one of
the faces of the new era. In the first year
of name, image and likeness allowances, this guy, John Ruiz
spent more than ten million dollars in athletes.

Speaker 1 (02:14:01):
So here, here's another question here.

Speaker 2 (02:14:04):
If I had that kind of money, I'd be damned
if I spend it on a college athlete. I don't
understand the pleasure he would get and was dissatisfaction or
why you would even do that?

Speaker 1 (02:14:16):
Why would you die? I don't get it. Why does
someone give money to an eighteen nineteen year old kid
to go to school? I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (02:14:26):
I mean, the whole situation to me, a they should
get paid, but be not by individuals, I don't think,
because obviously one school could overrule another by giving them
more money. The school should pay them. I pay them
a certain amount, but would you pay him? Would you
pay a certain athlete money to go to your school
in North Carolina?

Speaker 3 (02:14:45):
Personally, no, I'm not paying anybody.

Speaker 4 (02:14:47):
But I understand why boosters and stuff do it because
they're competitive. You got to remember the ones who were
the big bank rollers. They were successful and typically some
form of business where they had to bet on themselves,
and they used to having the best and brightest around them,
and so they are into the bottom line of winning.
And what this new landscape has done, it is empowered

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to donors and boosters more so than the head coaches
in the ads, because everyone is having an answer to
those who write the big checks, and because of the
collectives and the amount of money that's needed to secure
and retain some of these players. Yeah, the people that
write the checks, they have more staying who I want
to coach, who I want to be here, Who's not
all of that other stuff. That's what you're saying, and

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you can continue to see it because if I give
two million dollars out to North Carolina. I'm certainly going
to want to have a say in terms of where
that money goes.

Speaker 1 (02:15:36):
It amazes me.

Speaker 2 (02:15:38):
Look is a guy by the name of Isaiah Wong.
He was the ACC Player of the Year back in
twenty twenty three. He reportedly threatened to leave Miami unless
he received more NIL money. Now, this guy Ruiz made
it happen, and he persuaded him to stay. That season,
Miami's women's team reached the Elite for the first time.

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The men's team made its form Final four run, and
after the Hurricanes win, if you remember, Jim Larenega, the
coach of Miami, was hugging Ruiz on the court. Now,
all of a sudden, in twenty twenty three, the NCAA
issued sanctions against Miami. It's first related to the NIL.
First sanctions ever coach University of Miami and IL for
women's coach, the women's basketball coach Katie Meyer for her

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role in urging a meeting between Ruiz and the Cavender Twins.
Very popular twins over there played basketball my right. The
SEC and Department of Justice, they're investigating.

Speaker 1 (02:16:31):
This is not good.

Speaker 2 (02:16:32):
This is going to open up a whole new can
of worms for nil and nil boosters, because this is
the first time I've heard anything at all about a
booster and a booster maybe not having the money to
pay after promising an athlete that he would pay him
to go to that school.

Speaker 1 (02:16:46):
Not good, really not good. It's bad. The whole programs.
It's busted. It really is.

Speaker 4 (02:16:52):
It's busted all over and it's not going It's not
going to change until it absolutely bottoms out.

Speaker 3 (02:16:58):
So it continue to operate at this face. But it's
have to bottom out. You're gonna run out of money.

Speaker 4 (02:17:01):
You can see players in bad situations and eventually he's
gonna go to the course and that's when the course
of mandates some kind of change.

Speaker 2 (02:17:10):
There you go, all right, we're gonna not change that.
Though he's Bucky Brooks. Get him on X, get him
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And by the way, we talk about Jared Goff, the

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quarterback of the Detroit Lions. Jared Goff. Maybe the star,
maybe the star, but this guy is the engine that's
coming up next live for the Tyrock dot Com studios.
Expectations are overwhelming for these two teams. That's coming right up. Okay,
he's Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 1 (02:17:48):
I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio, and Buck. I gotta tell you, I was.

Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
Freaking out a little bit because I went on NFL
dot com and they's sort of change the website. You
know that where it says writers and stuff. I scrolled down, Wait,
where's Bucky Brooks?

Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
Right? But I found it. It's on the news right now.
It's not on the writers.

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
I don't know why they changed it, but I finally
found it because I love reading you every Friday. I
guess you knew about the change, right that they changed
that website.

Speaker 3 (02:18:18):
They're always tinkering with the website.

Speaker 1 (02:18:20):
Leave it alone. I don't leave it alone.

Speaker 3 (02:18:23):
Things. Wow, But I mean they're trying to make it better,
trying to make it a better user experience.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
No, they're not really. You know what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:18:29):
They hire these guys and they're paying them, and the
guys who are getting paid. They I got a monkey
around and change and it ain't broke. Don't fix it.
It wasn't broke.

Speaker 1 (02:18:36):
It was good.

Speaker 2 (02:18:37):
It said writers. You scroll down and you look for
Bucket Brooks's name. Now it doesn't say writers. It says news,
all right, So I had to scroll down news and
finally it said, oh bye, Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
So I got the deal right now. So here it is.

Speaker 2 (02:18:49):
And it was a good one this week because it
was a bad expectations. And you also said something to
the effect that really and truly the talent is unoverwhelming
between NFL elites and the solid dwellers.

Speaker 1 (02:19:01):
I mean, did this got to be?

Speaker 2 (02:19:02):
I mean, you're telling me that between Kansas City and
Carolina's not that much difference than talent.

Speaker 4 (02:19:09):
No, I'm saying that it. I mean, like most games
are decided about eight points to fewer. Every team that
is in the National Football League has talent. It's about
can you get them to play the right way? If
you are a team that is inferior to your opponent,
can you then find a way to create turnovers do
some things that level the playing field. But the talent

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disparity is fairly different. It's fairly even, because remember the
league has tried to make it an eight and eight
nine and eight league where everyone is right in the middle,
and if you look at the way it finishes, everyone
is right in the middle based on the salary cap,
the drafting system, all of those things. So that's why
the talent is pretty even throughout the course of the league.

Speaker 2 (02:19:54):
So the factors of a team winning is not that
much personnel of talent. The difference might be coaching, attitude
of the players, and basically maybe how you practice and
there so called not that I like this word that much,
but the so called culture of the team, how it's
made up. So we'll see what happens, because I got
to believe that over the last several years, the Charge
has always faltered in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (02:20:15):
They faded, they choked, they really did.

Speaker 2 (02:20:17):
We'll see if Harbbar's the difference, and I think he
will be because he's won every place else he went to.
He brings an immediate respect factor to those guys. They
seem to enjoy and they're practicing a lot harder, and
I think they will win. In fact, if Justin Herbert's healthy,
because I know he's banged up a little bit. If
he's healthy, they win because he's the coach.

Speaker 3 (02:20:36):
He's a coach.

Speaker 4 (02:20:37):
But the game really comes down to the mistakes, right,
the team that makes the fewest mistakes wins. And it
sounds like very cliche and very elementary, but really it
comes down to it. And if you think about the
main categories, because people are talking about the dbos that
don't beat ourselves, really comes down to avoiding the self
inflicted mistakes. So if you don't turn the ball over,

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if you don't have any greagious amount of penalties, and
if you don't give up big plays over the top
of the defense, you're gonna win your games.

Speaker 3 (02:21:05):
And really the.

Speaker 4 (02:21:06):
Turnover battle is everything and a national football league, if
you win the turnover battle by one, just plus one
in the turnover battle, you gonn win sixty four percent
of your games. If you win it by two, it
goes up to seventy two seventy three percent of your games,
and winning if you win by three, it puts you
up there in the upper eighties, almost ninety percent that

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you're going to win the game. So if you just
take care of the football, don't give it away to
the opponent, do the things that you're supposed to do
with it, you win games. It really comes down to that.
And so if you can master those areas, you'll always.

Speaker 3 (02:21:41):
Being the game.

Speaker 4 (02:21:41):
And then a team that is not as talented can
then find a way to be a team that is
more talent than them because the other team is messing
up well, all.

Speaker 2 (02:21:49):
Right, And you wrote that in NFL dot comd of
this year. The Dallas Cowboys and the New York Juduman
the spotlight as star studded squads facing lofty expectations.

Speaker 1 (02:21:58):
You know, why do you pick those two teams?

Speaker 2 (02:21:59):
Because I gotta believe there's bigger questions on the Cleveland
Browns with Deshaun Watson and the Philadelphia Eagles way they
kind of went down the cropper at the end of
last season. The bigger expectations may be more pressure there
than Dallas and New York.

Speaker 4 (02:22:12):
Why pick those two because they're the ones to get
the clicks, They're the ones that have been the most
notable in the offseason.

Speaker 3 (02:22:19):
That the ones.

Speaker 4 (02:22:19):
There's a lot of tension on America's team and Aaron Rodgers.
You throw those two names up in the headline, everyone
wants to talk about that. So because they've been the
topic of discussion the entire offseason. Let's dig into what
success looks like for them for this year.

Speaker 2 (02:22:32):
Okay, let's talk about the Dallas Cowboys. Now, the last
couple of years, they were twelve and five. That's not bad,
that's not bad at all, but they really didn't do anything.
They've gone one to three in the playoffs during those periods.
Twelve win campaigns under Mike McCarthy. Here's the guy who's
been on the hot seat that he was hired. I mean,
there's just something about that guy that either the media
doesn't like or he just can't get over the hump.

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I mean, he just can't get it done. So there's
pressure there, and there's even it added pressure right now
because they have to sign Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb, Michael Parsons,
these guys are eligible for extensions, and obviously they don't
win if they don't have these guys. And the number
one guy I need to sign, as you mentioned earlier,
is Dak Prescott, the quarterback. So I guess there's a

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lot of pressure on this team. The spotlights on this team,
and America's on this team because I think that the
ratings for the Dallas Cowboys lead any other team as
far as TV ratings game watching on TV. Why because
they so called America's team did the most interesting team
that has done nothing over the last twenty years.

Speaker 1 (02:23:35):
Think about that. They don't do anything.

Speaker 2 (02:23:36):
I mean, they haven't won anything, but everybody seems to
be interested in them, and they follow them.

Speaker 1 (02:23:41):
You know, it's great. It's great to have that kind
of following.

Speaker 4 (02:23:44):
I mean, they've done a really good job of creating
a brand that can last to test of time. You
talk about the lack of success they've had since what
ninety seven is when they won their last Super Bowl
somewhere in nice six, nice, somewhere in there. I mean,
that's a long time without winning. But yet everyone buys
into the narrative each and every year. They have enough

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star players to kind of keep you engaged, and that
is what kind of drives the engine.

Speaker 3 (02:24:13):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:24:13):
And then they're marketing geniuses in terms of how they
sell the brand, how they package it, what it looks like,
and all those things. But one thing that people never
talk about when it comes to Jerry Jones because everyone
loves to celebrate how rich he is and what he
does in terms of spending cash. He is one of
the more frugal owners that you will find. They do

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not spend a lot of cash on their teams, on
their players, and when they do a lot of times
it's reluctant spending. They don't proactively go and hand out
big contracts to their players. They're kind of forced between
a rock and a hard place before they do it.
And even now, if you look at the patterns, there's
no reason why Ceedee Lamb shouldn't have been signed, particularly

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after Justin Jefferson signed his deal. It should have been okay,
Justin Jefferson signed, he needs to get signed right away,
c at a year a year, yeah, right, So now
you're just prolonging it. Dak Prescott. Why Dak Prescott has
a no franchise tag, no trade class in his thame,
they should have been on the front end of signing
him if they wanted to bring him back. And then

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Michael Parsons they still have time on. But just the
way they go about doing business, I believe they waste
a lot of money on the back end that could
have been saved by just doing these front end deals,
being aggressive signing your guys and being okayble being okay
with that.

Speaker 2 (02:25:30):
Yeah, they're gonna sign them because they have to sign them,
and now they're gonna sign it for more money than
they could have signed them for. But the good news
for the Dallas Cowboys is they have talent that they
can compete this year and the following year. What makes
the stakes high. As you mentioned for the New York Jets,
it's now or ever. This is it for Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, if he gets hurt, they're finished. Number one,

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Number two, he's thirty nine years of age, and number three.
I think if they do, in fact win this year,
I don't think he's going to return for a following year.

Speaker 1 (02:25:57):
So this is it. This is the end of the
line for them.

Speaker 3 (02:26:01):
M you don't think he's coming back?

Speaker 1 (02:26:02):
You think this is I think that he'll go out
to the sunset if they win.

Speaker 3 (02:26:07):
Okay, what's winning? What's winning?

Speaker 1 (02:26:09):
I think?

Speaker 3 (02:26:09):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (02:26:10):
I don't think they're gonna win the super Bowl. But
I think if they get deep in the playoffs, if
they make the super Bowl, I think he quits.

Speaker 1 (02:26:15):
If he makes the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:26:18):
Okay, all right, I just wanted to make sure I
got the definition winning. Yeah, I would say if he
gets to the super Bowl, yes, but I don't envision
him doing it. So if they falter in the divisional round,
I think you have a tough decision to make where
he wants to come back and and do it. It
also depends on how he plays. If he plays at
a high level where we could talk about him with
reverence of being an MVP candidate an MVP finalist, then

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he comes back and it looks different. But if he's
just out there handing it off and doing the Peyton
Manning thing at the end of his career when Peyton
clearly didn't have the the health.

Speaker 3 (02:26:50):
On his side, I then I see him walking away
and kind of going and doing his own thing.

Speaker 2 (02:26:55):
And we haven't talked about the coaching factor. I mean
both coaches with these xpects, so they basically go on
the hotsch. I think Robert Salas really on the hot seat.
I mean we knew that going in, but I honestly
think that basically McCarthy probably maybe not as much. I
think get more heat in New York than you wouldn't Dallas.
Perhaps I don't know, but I think New York will

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give you a lot more heat.

Speaker 4 (02:27:19):
I mean, look New York is gonna give you a
lot of heat just because it's the media market in
New York. I think the questions about the head coach,
the questions about some of the personnel moves they make.
They're gambling on a bunch of older players that are
coming off injuries. To be right, that's a lot man,
and they've always kind of been the step brother when

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it comes to the market. The Giants are the ones
that everyone talks about. The Jets are kind of the afterthought.
This is their opportunity to kind of knock the Giants
out of the headlines and have the.

Speaker 3 (02:27:52):
Really good team.

Speaker 4 (02:27:52):
But whenever we've expected those things from the Jets, they've
never delivered. They've never delivered to our expectation when we
think that good, they never play up to the hype.

Speaker 3 (02:28:03):
And I have a hard time believe they can play
up to the hype.

Speaker 2 (02:28:05):
Now, I'm with you right there, But also I'm not
going to figure out the Eagles in the Browns. I
think there's a lot of expectations and a lot of
pressure they are and you can maybe even throw Buffalo
in the mix too. Those three teams and the plus
your Jets in Dallas, those are five teams that there's
a lot of expectations and pressure coming into the season,
and the players feel it too.

Speaker 1 (02:28:23):
I mean I'm sure they do, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:28:26):
But you know, like the thing is, pressure isn't always bad.
Pressure can make you spend more time preparing. It can
make you lock in and focus.

Speaker 3 (02:28:35):
It can make you.

Speaker 4 (02:28:37):
A better student and just kind of like give you
that competitive edge if you know how to manage the pressure.
The thing that you don't want is from pressure to
become stress. See, pressure is just understanding that the stakes
are high. Stress is when the stakes are high and
you know that you're not prepared for it. Hopefully these
teams feel pressure, they don't feel stressed because stress is
more on the players and the coaches not being prepared

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for the moment as opposed to anything else.

Speaker 1 (02:29:01):
Stress is what I have every Sunday with you. That's stress.

Speaker 3 (02:29:04):
That's what I have.

Speaker 2 (02:29:05):
Stress, That's what I all Right, we got to roll
on these Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We have Fox
Sports Sunday of Fox Sports Radio, and of course who
looks the strongest on these teams? Well that's coming up
next right here at the tiraq dot Com studios.

Speaker 1 (02:29:18):
But first I made himself. I was at Loyal Kron
with the sports. Sorry we're a little bit late. I'm man. Oh,
no worries at all.

Speaker 8 (02:29:24):
Good morning to you, Andy and Bucky, and we start
with some fresh NFL news on this Sunday morning, as
multiple outlets reported a short time ago that the Minnesota
Vikings signing five time Pro Bowl cornerback Stefan Gilmour to.

Speaker 1 (02:29:36):
A one year, ten million dollar deal.

Speaker 8 (02:29:39):
On the field on Saturday night, Cowboys over the Raiders
in Vegas twenty seven to twelve. Trey Lance completed fifteen
to twenty three for one fifty one with a touchdown pass.
Get this, Dallas's Brandon Aubrey kicked a sixty six yard
field goal at the halftime gun that would have tied
the NFL record had it been a regular season game.

Speaker 1 (02:29:57):
Rady said, what was happened?

Speaker 8 (02:29:59):
Check the ball, chip the air in the bull Yeah,
you can't credit the altitude and it's Vegas, not Denver.
Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce said he will decide the
starting quarterback for them between Aid and O'Connell and Gardner
Minshew within the next couple of days. And Major League
Baseball on Saturday night, the Atlanta Braves defeated the Los
Angeles Angels in Anaheim eleven to three. Atlanta pitcher Chris

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Sales struck out ten in six innings for the win
to improved to fourteen and three.

Speaker 1 (02:30:25):
Brewers over Cleveland two to one.

Speaker 8 (02:30:27):
Milwaukee on a four game winning streak leaves the NL
Central by ten.

Speaker 1 (02:30:31):
Cardinals over the Dodgers five to two.

Speaker 8 (02:30:33):
The Cardinals hit three home runs as they broke a
five game losing streak, and San Diego recorded fifteen hits
in an eight three win at Colorado. Padre hurler Dylan
Cees his twelfth victory of the season, Andy, and Bucky
back to.

Speaker 2 (02:30:46):
You, thik you, I mean, okay, now, these moves look
pretty good for these teams. That's coming right up.

Speaker 1 (02:30:51):
He's Bucky Brokes on Indy Ferman and by the way,
yay you and they will come up at about seven
eight minutes from now. And you know, I just heard
Iman told about that sixty six yard field goal. You
know who would have envisioned a sixty six yard field goal.

Speaker 2 (02:31:03):
Just the other day, the Cincinnati Bengals signed Evan McPherson
and their kicker for a three year deal. Sixteen point
five million dollars for a kicker. Would you have ever
believe that Bucket Brooks really and truly and these fifty
yard field goals are nothing nowadays? I mean it's commonplace.
I mean, really and truly, it's crazy, it really is.

Speaker 3 (02:31:24):
Yeah, I think they're worth it.

Speaker 4 (02:31:25):
I think we have made it a joke about kickers
and punters and they don't do anything, but yet we
sit on the edge of our seats when they're asked
to make a game winning kick from fifty yards away.

Speaker 3 (02:31:38):
These guys are valuable.

Speaker 4 (02:31:39):
These guys are often the leading scorer on their teams,
and so their value is and their ability to make
money kicks and long distance kicks. As we're seeing more
field goal kick place kickers knock down these distance kicks
from fifty plus yards.

Speaker 3 (02:31:54):
What it does is it shrinks to feel for the.

Speaker 4 (02:31:56):
Offense and it makes it easier for coaches to call
plays because they know they have the security of walking
away with three points. So kudos to these teams for
paying the kickers and treating them like valuable members of
the team because they are. And when you get a
good one, you need to hold on to them because
justin Tucker's of the World, the Harrison Bookmers of the world.
They're hard to find, hard to find money kickers that

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can be consistent over time.

Speaker 2 (02:32:21):
I agree with you there, I mean, but I will
tell you this much. They don't really work that hard.
I watch practice. They're usually in another field by themselves,
just kicking the ball. Really, they're not getting hit, they're
not killing themselves, just kicking footballs, which is a pretty
good deal, you know. And they got a talent, there's
no doubt about that. They got a talent. But I
want to go back to some of the moves that
some of these teams have made that really put them

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in good contention here, and I'm going to go back
over here.

Speaker 1 (02:32:45):
I got to question what move what they're going to
do with the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (02:32:49):
What's going to happen a quarterback wquse I think right now,
certainly in preseason, I don't think they have any idea
right now if Gardner Minshew or Aidan O'Connell is going
to really walk away and say they're the starter.

Speaker 1 (02:33:02):
I think there's a big question over there.

Speaker 2 (02:33:04):
And as good as their defense may be and as
good as the talent may be surrounding the quarterback. Unless
they have an A one quarterback, they ain't going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:33:14):
True. I mean, I think there's a huge problem. It's
a huge issue. They should have known that. They knew
that going into the offseason.

Speaker 4 (02:33:22):
They thought they could kind of ride it out with
Garnamentchew and eight and O'Connell. It's proven to be a
little more challenging, I would say than anyone expected, and
they don't have to figure out a way to win
games in different means. The quarterback is a pivotal position,
but sometimes you can play around a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (02:33:40):
That isn't necessarily an A plus guy.

Speaker 4 (02:33:43):
It just requires the other pieces of the team to
be so good and operate at such a high level
when you're doing that.

Speaker 3 (02:33:51):
But it can be done.

Speaker 4 (02:33:52):
It has been done. It's just rare to do it
consistently over the course of a full season. So we'll
see if they can figure out a way to do it.
APS's work cut out for him. It should have been
addressed in the offseason, right.

Speaker 1 (02:34:03):
It really should have.

Speaker 2 (02:34:04):
Now we talk about what's going to be addressed in
the offseason, which was not. I mean, let's talk about
the Indianapolis Colts for a second. With quarterback situation. Their
second year quarterback Anthony Richardson, this is really his first
year on they played last year they had that shoulder repaired.
That's going to be serious. I mean, I look at
Joe Burrow's his thumb and his wrist. That's a big
deal too, because those are vulnerable spots where you can

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get hit when lineman got pushed into you. And now
the shoulder situation in Indianapolis with Anthony Richardson, are we
going to see Joe Flacco play again in Indianapolis? I
mean he's on the roster as at backup quarterback. I
mean what happens now with Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 4 (02:34:42):
So look, man, this is Anthony Richardson's deal. Now, he's
been off injured since he at school college, Like this
is in his history. So when they signed Joe Flacco,
they signed him with the expectation that he was going
to have to play, and we have to be prepared
to note that he is going to play.

Speaker 3 (02:35:00):
That's just kind of what it is and what it's
going to be.

Speaker 4 (02:35:04):
Super talented player and Anthony Richison, but man, Durabilly has
been an issue for.

Speaker 1 (02:35:08):
Him certainly has I mean, just some people are just
injury prone. They really are. He's one of them. I
think Joe Burrows won too, I really do. You're not
going to count the you know.

Speaker 2 (02:35:15):
An internal injury, you know, like an dependence, that's not
an injury really, it's a medical situation. But other injuries
they come around and that some people are. So we'll
see what happens. And you don't wish any injury, you
really don't. You want to see a team win full strength,
that's what you want to do. Bucky brooks Andy Firm
way off full strength right here, Fox Sports Sun there
and Fox Sports Radio. It's new, it's exciting, it's yay

(02:35:37):
r nay and it's next yay or nay coming right up.
It's about eleven minutes now before the top of the hour,
and this is Fox Sports Sun. They were live for
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(02:35:58):
on Fox Sports Radio. And a shout we have to
do this bucket to our great staff, what great work
Kevin Wyo with the updates. Now iilo come in with
the updates. The Magic Man himself, Mark Ramsey and Chris
Purfett doing the sound right here, and Shay Shay, the
main man. Shay Shay, let's play, Yay Ornay.

Speaker 1 (02:36:15):
Are you ready?

Speaker 7 (02:36:16):
Let's do it, guys. And this is a new game
for me, so I'm sure it's new for a couple
of people out there. For our listeners. I basically will
tell scenarios within the sports world to Bucky and Andy
and they'll tell me if it's the AA or nay.
So let's get right into it. The price that the
Yankees jersey worn by Babe Ruth during the Colt Shot
game in the nineteen thirty two World Series could be

(02:36:39):
sold for thirty million dollars according to the Heritage Auctions
Andy yay or nay.

Speaker 2 (02:36:46):
I say nay, nay two names. Number one, I wouldn't
pay three dollars, let alone thirty million.

Speaker 1 (02:36:51):
And number two.

Speaker 2 (02:36:52):
I don't believe there was a cold shot. I think
that was just done for Hollywood. I don't think Babe
Ruth ever had a cold shot in that World service.
So I say nay again.

Speaker 3 (02:37:02):
Wow, I believe he called the shot. I believe you
call the shot.

Speaker 4 (02:37:04):
I believe someone's out there willing to pay that money
as a piece of history's nostalgic.

Speaker 3 (02:37:08):
Yeah, I think they'll drop the depict What else you're
gonna do with all the money when you're a billionaire, Yeah, make.

Speaker 7 (02:37:13):
The money charities, Give it to charities, and get mad
about sand cure cancer. Despite losing the first round of
the playoffs last season, the Lakers led the NBA with
thirty nine nationally televised games next season, yay or nay?

Speaker 3 (02:37:30):
Fucking is Lebron James farewell Tour potentially?

Speaker 4 (02:37:33):
Yeah, you gotta see Bron and Bronni see if the
dynamic duo can lead the Great Lakers back to relevance.

Speaker 3 (02:37:39):
So I understand it.

Speaker 4 (02:37:41):
We talk about teams like the Dallas Cowboys that are
national brands.

Speaker 3 (02:37:45):
This is a national brand in terms of the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (02:37:48):
As much as I hate to agree with Bucky Brooks,
I'm gonna go with the YA because number one, we
don't watch teams, We watch individuals, and I love Lebron
and this is gonna be the farewell tour.

Speaker 2 (02:38:00):
I want to see Lebron every night, not thirty nine times.
I want to see him forty one times. I want
to seehim eighty two times. I want to see him
all the time because he's a generational player and I
want to see him.

Speaker 1 (02:38:10):
So I say yay.

Speaker 7 (02:38:12):
The college football playoffs expand this season to twelve teams.
Will we see a team in the playoffs with three losses?
Yay or nay?

Speaker 2 (02:38:19):
Andy, I say yay, because look, you have the college
conferences that get guaranteed births, so there's a good chance
that after the guaranteed berth you're gonna get a team
with three losses.

Speaker 1 (02:38:29):
There's no doubt in my mind.

Speaker 2 (02:38:30):
So I think it's good. I think they got twelve
teams in there. We're gonna see some real tough competition.
And in the years past, we saw a team that
maybe had one or perhaps two losses where they Noah's
perched against the window, couldn't getting in. I like teams,
but maybe three losses getting in They'll be great.

Speaker 1 (02:38:45):
I love it. Yay.

Speaker 3 (02:38:47):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.

Speaker 4 (02:38:48):
I think with the conference champions going in, you have
to be comfortable seeing a team with three losses or
more in the playoffs just because of the conference champion.

Speaker 3 (02:38:57):
I do not believe a wildcard team can get in
with three losses.

Speaker 7 (02:39:00):
Though yay or nay, The NBA will continue, oh sorry, yeah,
continue its Cup series this coming season with six first
round games. Games will be played on Tuesday, November twelfth,
nineteenth and the twenty sixth, and Friday November fifteenth, twenty second,
and the twenty ninth.

Speaker 3 (02:39:17):
Bucky, yay or nay.

Speaker 4 (02:39:23):
I'll say yay, like I'll just kind of go with
it as scripted. Look, I think everyone wants to see it,
So yeah, I'm with it.

Speaker 3 (02:39:28):
I'm okay with it. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:39:30):
As much as I have basketball, I love basketball being
an NBA O college.

Speaker 1 (02:39:33):
This is a nay. This is a capital may because
this is not soccer. This is basketball.

Speaker 2 (02:39:39):
You don't break up the season, stop it in the
middle and start doing these tournament games, these cup series.
It's ridiculous. I don't want to see it. I don't
like what they have at MLS. MLS they take the
players away in the middle of the season, forget it,
nay ny and I can't even figure out.

Speaker 1 (02:39:54):
Who plays when they played.

Speaker 7 (02:39:55):
Sony rick Hill, a left hander who has pitched for
thirteen MLB teams, just signed a minor League contract with
the Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 1 (02:40:03):
Darrey mentioned he is forty four. Yay or nay?

Speaker 2 (02:40:06):
Andy, Nay, you're forty four years of age. The only
reason you're doing this you're probably flat broke. You probably
need the money. Go away, get a job, go to
McDonald's and do some hamburgers. Okay, forty four, you're too old,
go away please? You played on thirteen teams?

Speaker 3 (02:40:22):
Wait, man, I mean Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers. There a
bunch of forty year old guys and are still trying
to play. Like, what are we talking about? Talk about them?
You know he's been there play.

Speaker 1 (02:40:32):
This guy's a loser. He's been there, he's always thirteen.

Speaker 3 (02:40:36):
He's so disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (02:40:37):
Way that's me. He's a loser.

Speaker 3 (02:40:39):
He's a veteran, he's a vagabond.

Speaker 1 (02:40:41):
Oh, I can't wait to see you next week, book,
I can't wait. God bless you.

Speaker 2 (02:40:44):
State duned count out the kickoff coming up next right here,
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