Martin Weiss & Veejay Huskey Talk Florida State Upset, Deshaun Watson & More!

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Speaker 4 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
When I woke up this morning, I'm still on the
line for Chris Broussard.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
When I woke up this morning, I was watching that
Georgia Tech Florida State game.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I said, this is how football should be. This is
how football should be.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Thank goodness, we are back, live and in action, even
though it's this little appetizer called week zero before the
main course, which will be Week one of college football
next week.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Then the week after that, it'll be Week one.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Of the NFL, and then after that, all you gotta
remember just add one to the NFL weekend.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
That's the way you are in college football. That's my trick, VJ.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
What's yours?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
My trick, man is just cut the TV on, get
your chips, get your dip, get your wings, get your
HOGI your sandwich, your breakfast, because out here on the
West coast Florida State.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Game started at nine am.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
So I get up, get my workout, and then get
back in front of the TV while going over a
film from our game yesterday that I coached.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
So it's just get in front of the TV.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Like you said, it's football season. It's here.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
I don't want to talk nothing else, nothing else matters.
I don't care what's going on. Something astronomical like Lebron
has to get traded right now for me to not
talk football, like Aaron Judge has the light tear, something
to be done for the year for me to not
talk football today, Bro, And I don't wish that on,
you know, Aaron, No, I got you, I got a
perfect I got a real world example right here, right now.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Kevin O'Connell earlier today flooded.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Out the idea of the Lakers are interested in pursuing
Luca Dodge.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Oh god, you know what I have to say to that.
Don't give it, shut up, shut up. It is football season.
You know what I knew, you know what such a
mouth that it was football season, you know, And it.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Was official after in the postgame interview, when Georgia Tech
head coach said that was his game kick, he says, this.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Hand off William spirting into the inside.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
He didn't say that.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
The announcer said, that's cool, all right, I'll try what
we're talking.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
After the game. In the same interview, the Georgia.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Tech head coach said this, I don't have it.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
We don't have it. We don't he said.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
You know what he said, VJ. I heard it. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
The announcer of the sideline reporter asked him, you know,
how'd you think about the way your offensive line played today?
And he said he still clattery, laughed, and he goes,
we run the ball. There we go, There we go
one more time.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Run the ball, run the ball.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Football one on one.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Heard that and I said, you know what, we it
feels so good to be back football one on one.
But the VJ.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Vernon Husky Book of Football, run the football, stop the run.
It starts there and that offense on. Let me tell
you something about that Georgia Tech team.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, and I'm quick first, I don't want to cut
you off, but I do want to say this about
Florida State pregame before we get into actual nuts and balls.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Off the game.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Florida State walking into this game.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah, you could see it in their eyes, field in
their pads, and hear it from their fans.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
They were still salty about last year.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Got about last year. Yeah, and that's why I was
gonna go No they I forgot about last year.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Bull went kirk Herb Street at the college game day situation.
I saw tweets from like Danny Kanell and Bud Elliott
satoh old on.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
These guys are fired up, they're mad. They're mad.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, now it's time to prove it on the field.
And on the field you got rare through your face. Yeah,
they got read through the face. Because Georgia Tech has
a very good offensive line. They got a veteran offensive line.
And those guys use pad power. I call pad power
when you just put your pads against the other man's
pads and you push him against your will.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
That's what makes football. I say this all the time.
That's what makes football the ultimate sport. There's nothing better
than football because you can't hide, you can't disguise, you
can't front, you can't fake, and there's definitely no fliff,
flamm and fluff involved. It is man on man me
on you, human body on human body. You've been squatting,
You've been doing your bitch press, You've been doing your

(04:10):
clean you've been doing your running, you've been doing your
up and downs, you've been doing your your late child,
Have you been working to get to this point? And
something else he said in the post game that really
resonated with me. They've been going against themselves for the
last eight months, so to get on the field today,
you really don't know what you're gonna get if you
there's no scrimmages, there's no preseason in college football. That's

(04:31):
what makes week zero, week one, whatever people want to
call it, really really good. I was watching McNee State
and I don't know one player from McNeese State, but
it was college football.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
It was real.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
It was gonna be somebody's gonna be one to zero
or own one. And once again, it's the beauty of
the physicality of football. It is me on you may eleven,
on your eleven, let's go. That's what made this game
a great game. Georgia Tech should get a lot of
credit for their offensive line and that Florida State defensive.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
A lot of guys just think about the guys they
put in the.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
NFL over the last two seasons and then they just
kind of plug and play there. Now it's that type
of system again, not quite like Bobby Bobby Bowden, but
it's good.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
They're they're just gonna plug and play.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
The next guy in, who got plenty of playing time
last year might not have been a starter, but for
them to dominate the line of scrimmage today was impressive.
As a running football guy, I am, and Florida State's
got more questions than I thought because they got pieces.
But you already know who my number one question mark
is with Florida State. I don't have to say it.
Everybody should know that by now. I mean it showed

(05:32):
today a little.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
But he was not nearly the like there were games
and DJ, you along Lay like you along Lele on the.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
End there, young Lay.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm out of shape. You know, it's been a few
months I had so she was at Oregon State. I
gotta like, you know, work the jaw muscles out and
get it, you know, U young DJ.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Tennessee quarterback Nico No no hate me neither. And my
mama and my mama ba stopped.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It sounded like a stop saying islama bah from Pakistan
to stop U Dju.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Was not the reason that Florida State lost today.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
He was not. He did he played? Did he play great? No,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'm not trying to say that he you know, was
gonna be sitting up there in New York for the Heisman.
I'm not saying that this is a performance that he
will write home about. I'm not saying that his parents
are gonna print the box, go out and put it
on the fridge and say what a good job.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
So Big Dave might Big Dave might not after this game,
but he played well enough that Florida State would have
won the game had they not gotten shoved around left, right,
and center at the point of attack all day. That
was the biggest problem. I agree with you. He's not
the reason they lost. He could have been the reason
they won, but he could he didn't the reason they

(06:46):
won any and he wasn't there. There still throws that
he makes, and once again I paused the TV, I
rewind and I go look it through what in a
quarterback his feet and there was an out route and.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Even the the the color guy I forget with a palmer. Uh,
he said it. You know, this is a makeable throw.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
It's a ten yard out, you're six five, you're two
forty seven, you got a big arm, and this critical
point of second half, you've got to make that throw.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
And twice he airmails it.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
And if you go look at his feet, they're not
pointing in the direction where the ball's gonna go, which
means now you're using.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Too much upper body and you can't curtly control.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
And if you don't get the fingers on those laces,
the ball's gonna sell on you. And it did that twice.
I just believe at this point that he makes that
throw ten for ten. You can't miss those throws. So
when if you make those throws, I think it's a
different game in the second half.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
He'd be a different player at this point if you
made those throws he's not making.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
But that's the point. That's the point I'm making five
of his third college team.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
But do you agree that they should be though at
this point, No, because they're not going to like he's
just not a pro. He's just not.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
So you don't think, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Like he's not gonna get like we have got the
maximum we have got the maximum.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Level out of dju Along that we will get no,
I agree, But that's what I mean that you that
there's a basic throw in the route treat and at
this point in your career, you should make ten for ten.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
That's the point that I'm making.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
What I'm saying is, at this point in his career,
if you're expecting him to make any throw that's longer
than five yards consistently, you're the one that's wrong.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
It'd be like expect you. It'd be like if you're
a Raiders fan.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I know, we got a buddy who tweets us every
week about the Raiders starting quarterback competition. If you're it's like,
it's like being a Raiders fan and being like, man,
why can't Gardner Minshew out duel Patrick Mahomes And it's like,
because one guy's Gardner Minshew and the other one is
Patrick mahons. A pretty that's get what you're saying at
this point in time, at this point in time in

(08:41):
your career, what it and the Indiapolis calls that you
were a Gardner Minshew were a bad throw away from
a playoff? Berth right, But did anybody expect Gardner Minshew
to make.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
A great throw?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
You thought it was a bad throw to want to
hit the fullback in the hands in the flat. It
was it.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I thought it was a little behind him.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
But either way, either way his hands, but yeah, either way,
all right, either way, y'all.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Can tell this football season you're supposed to.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Sit there and be like, oh, you know what Gardner
mentioned was supposed to lead the Colts to an AFC
South Division league.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
No, No, of course not.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Dju played well enough in this game to win, and
that's what you need out of a guy.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like him at this point in his career.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Did he make gruesome, terrible pick six fumble six type
of mistakes.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
No, that's the point. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Think about how.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Many quarterbacks we're gonna see. This is confule, this hay
the pros.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
How many quarterbacks we're gonna see look like they're catching
the snap with the relbows, are throwing with their.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Feet all right, right, it's gonna be a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
The reason why I'm laughing all your listeners and for
our new producer, Just so you guys know, Martin, I
pretty much played nice from like February to August September.
When it gets here, we just starting football season and
we're already and we're already on the opposite ends of
the field. So you got sit back because this is
gonna be great stuff. I totally once again disagree. If
you are who you are, fine, but I still can

(09:56):
critique your game and go man. Fifth year thirteen, number
one recruit coming out, tied with b Y who's in
the NFL going in the second year now won the
Heisman in one or pick You still at a critical point,
can't make a tenant outthrow.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Probably why pro the people who raked them number one?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
You know what they were. They were wrong. That's what
it is. Right, they were wrong. That's all it is.
That's what it boils down to. It's like being mad
at the weather.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
It's like, you know, it's like being mad at It's
like being mad at the sun because the weather man
said it was gonna rain.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
It's like, no, the weather man was wrong. He was wrong.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
All these people who had DJ.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You younger lele as the number one quarterback in the
class were clearly wrong because CJ. Stroud now was the
second quarterback in that class. I believe, I believe, so
he's a top ten NFL quarterback.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Dju was on.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
His third college. Oh sidebar, you got me in your
top ten is ok. I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
The point remains that they were wrong. So if you're
expecting more out of.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Dju along Lele at this point, then you are wrong,
just like these guys were wrong when they ranked them
number one. Come, I'm out of college, going to club,
come out of high school and going to clemb from Now.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
With all that said, so where do you see? I
had him as a playoff team? Are they still a
playoff tam? Because I don't think today's were a playoff team. Okay,
I had them in my top twelve because I don't
think today's game matter. Another thing about like when football
season starts in the NFL, I tell people all the time,
don't talk to me the first don't ask me in
the first four weeks.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Let's just watch and enjoy.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
We don't know anything after week one, Week two, week three,
week four, After week four, going in week five, you
have a kind of idea of who's who could probably
be good and who's probably gonna be really bad. And
then another four weeks. By the middle of the season,
the league starts to shape itself. Now we can really
get into the boat. The nuts and boats with a
twelve team playoff. I think a game late today was
just a game Martin honestly to just sit and enjoy

(11:42):
because this one loss means nothing. Now if they lose
two more and they're sitting three losses and are two
losses and they're ranked number fourteen, ranked number fifteen, people
are gonna go right back to today say, well, they
lost that Georgia Tech game and this team lost that.
I think it'll matter then. We won't know until then.
But with DJ as their quarterback, you don't have them
as a playoff team. I wouldn't have. But that's not

(12:04):
an indictment on DJ. To me, DJ is who I
thought your team is loaded though they got That was
last year.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Now they have talent this year too, Bro.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
They have. They have stupid transfer back from Alabama who
I mentioned when I've talked about Florida State. I saw
them Indians. I saw him cross the gold line and running.
Well today, they have, they have talent. I'm just really
curious about where people now see them now that they
see their quarterback on the field once again.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Boston College next week.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
They should get Memphis Cal SMU and then home against
Clips and I think maybe they can come out of
there with me, you know, maybe one more loss art table.
You heard it here right here. Oh well, SMU was
my twelfth team, so I'll go with you there. And
that's at SMU. They have to travel to SMU for
that game.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's when you beat them, and they have was three
losses in that so far. In my Opinionwarida State is
they're just not that their.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
They And honestly, last year was the aberration last year
and the last year was the operation. Last year was
the perfect storm, last veteran quarter heismans like that. Last year,
I've got perfect storm.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm not believing in Florida State ability to revamp, especially
they're shoeing the ACC because they're so good for the
there's too good to.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Play in the league.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Meanwhile, in the last what fifty eight Yeah, it's fifty eight,
last fifty eight ACC football games, Florida.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
State's thirty and twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Right, I rest my case, get out of here and DJU, congratulations,
you'll be playing outfield for the Round Rock Triple A soon.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, Well, he threw one hundred miles an hour and
he's in high school. Drafted last year by the Dodgers.
He did. Yeah, I was in the eighty fifth round.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
But there.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
I remember he was coming out high school. There were
rumors that he might skip Clemson and go play the
majors if then, if the minor league contract was going
to be high enough, if it was going to be
in the millions, there were rumors that he was not
going to go to Clemson. He was gonna go play
baseball and get that money.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
He made the right decision because college football now pays
more than minor league baseball. Oh yeah, you're right, it does.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
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Big Manlla Funny Martin White, Fox Sports raising. What is
your take on the Kansas Jayhawks this season? Will they
make it to a bowl game? Are you? I tell you,
when I first started reading Kansas Jayhawks, I thought you
was talking about basketball, because why would anybody be at
about Jayhawk football.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I'm just messing with you, man. They should make it
to a bowl game.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
They're not getting to the playoffs, but they got some weapons,
they got an offense, and they have to replace some
pieces on defense from last year. But Kansas always has
those weird years from time to time where they'll start
five and one or six and oh and have a
good year. So they would have to do that Hammer
and Hank to get there. I think I think Ken
has a good shot to make a Bowl game. Yeah,
they got a really good quarterback that both their quarterbacks

(16:25):
are really really good.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
So if you have good players at those positions, Kobe
Bryant one of them co B I E.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Kobe Bryant, which is the replace A lot of trading
their front seven guys though, that's just a kind of
bothersome why I just don't love like Kobe. I'm not
saying Kobe's name was made up, because it's obviously the
name of a beef, but it was something that it's like,
it's it's like naming a kid. Jalen is spelling A
j A Y L I A. Why not just spell

(16:52):
it through who you're naming it after. Yeah, why not
just spell it who you're naming it after?

Speaker 7 (16:56):
The Seahawks quarterback to Kobe Bryant, I know, but not
Cob Why but like, but yeah, that's that we're doing.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
No, I mean the same point, but it's off k
O B E.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Baby mamba baby. It's like spelling Shaquille with a city
or or Shaquille with a H at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
It's like, uh, it's like we're naming you after a legend.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
But also so that way, every time you introduce yourself,
you have to be like Kobe Bryant, not that Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
No, because you can tell mine. It is different because
it starts with the scene.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
And it's not just Kobe with the C. It's like
Kobe with a C at the beginning and a Y
at the end instead of an E. There's all all
these caveats you gotta throw it.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Not a fair I know, a young lady Kobe the player.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Of course. It's not a fan of the naming.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
No maclach Man. I had a female friend once to
named her son Donovan Omari and I looked around, I
said after and she finished it, yes, after Donovan mcnath
and Omayer Statlemar And I'm like, wow, Okay, that's what
you want to do.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I think that's for like pets.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Like if I had another pit bull, I would name
my like my pit bull woodson that passed away, Rest
in peace to the little homie. He's named after Charles Woodson,
one of my favorite, if not my favorite football player
of all time.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
My next pit bulls name will be Kobe.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't think you named your kids that, but you know,
co b I E.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Kobe.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
No for the pit bull that's so disgusting.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
What's more disgusting, Mary Mack, is the idea that on
the first day at college football, we got to sit
here and watch not one, not two, not three. That's right,
zero games involving two ranked teams.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
Zero.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
You know, I got it.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
You thought I was gonna say five. No, no, no,
why would you have a front low the schedule?

Speaker 5 (18:35):
No?

Speaker 4 (18:35):
But why are we watching Florida State play Georgia Tech
in Ireland? It's like when baseball starts the season with
the Padres and the Dodgers in South Korea?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 9 (18:46):
Is this not?

Speaker 7 (18:47):
Like?

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Is this not the one of the most storied and
tradition full sport tradition filled sports in America, both baseball
and college football. Can we not get, like, I don't know,
really good team first, really good team in the first
game of the year.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Can we not do that?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Like, especially now with the.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
College football playoff being extended so basically congratulate you.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
You know, to finish well in your conference, you're going
to make the qualifier.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm watching replays right now of a college football game
because there's so few college games to put on TV
on what we call week zero.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
It's disgusting and it's a waste of time. We can
just play a full schedule. Now.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's like having eighteen Manzarella sticks. It's too many. Six
is perfect for too few, eighteen too many. Now you're
not even now you two fourth for dinner.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I'm not mad at Week zero. It gives us a
chance to get some high school football into because I
think that's kind of why they do it, do all
high school games. I'm watching, and I went to a
high school game last night. I will watch high school football.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, I coached went last night, so we will pay
my good lie.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I'll spend eight dollars for some nachos and a bottle
of water to watch Orange Lutheran and Sarah and Guardina Sier. Oh, okay,
good matchup. But I'll just say, like I would watch Hell.
ESPN two is about to run Bosco and Shamana. I
watched that.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Watch Saint Thomas Aquie is played earlier today.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Why is it that Nevada and SMU was the follow
up to Florida State and Georgia Tech. Why can't I
flip around like I will be able to next week
and watch a college football.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Game and what feels like every single channel because it's
an appetizer.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
B that's why it's getting us. We're getting football. First
of all, I'm not mad at this SMU Nevada game.
You and I were just talking to a commercial break.
We both think SMUs beating Florida State this year.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
The problem I have is not with the SMU Nevada game.
The problem I have is with that that is the
standalone game on right now unless you're watching.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
HBCU or as some on the other end, don't, don't
sell yes game in Norfolk and Norfolk State. I know
a bunch of people that graduated from norfald But next
week we get it going.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Man, we get Georgia Clipson next week.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
I get it this way.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yes, that's just not when it's scheduled.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
As TV writes Martinus, money is sponsors commerce all this,
but Labor Day we can no.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
They can't load up before Labor Day. Labor Day is
the load up weekend, and that's next weekend is Labor
Day weekend. It's the last holiday of the summer. It's
the last. Now out here in the West Coast they're
back in school. But back East, I never started school
until after Labor Day. No matter where I lived on
the East Coast, I never write Mary, I've never started
school before Labor Day in my life. Out Here, they

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started school two weeks ago. But it's the last it's
the last hurrah. You can't wear white and the wharf
it is. It's the last yacht parties, it's the last picnics,
it's the last everything.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
So you load it for that weekend.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
But you give us a little appletizer this weekend, because
if they don't give us this, what are we watching
week three preseason? Like real talk, what are we doing?
No one's watching week three preseason? So getting the preseason
doesn't give us some college appetizers like this, get it
set up, get it you. That game was great today, Bro.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Preseason doesn't do though, doesn't lie to us.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
That's what I appreciate about.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
The preseason doesn't lie to us like the college football schedule, Dick.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
College football starts today, doesn't it. Oh wait, who in
the SEC is even playing today? They don't Labor day baby, right,
exact day. There's no more PAC twelve. If there wasn't
the PAC twelve, who won the PAC twelve will be
playing today?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's right, nobody Labor day baby. All right, let's go
ahead kick it over Steve to Seger for what's trending.
As for Steve, how's week zero treating you a lot
of sports?

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Read right?

Speaker 8 (22:30):
I like the way that you put that is, the
preseason does not lie to us.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
You're correct, it doesn't lie.

Speaker 8 (22:36):
We know actually that the Baltimore Ravens just threw trash
on the field today at Green Bay lost thirty to seven.
The Ravens backups with four turnovers and the team had
nine first downs the entire quarter, thirty to seven green
Bay the final. By the way, you mentioned baseball starting
overseas with the Dodgers in Soul last year. Next season
is going to start with the Dodgers in Tokyo against

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the Cubs in March, which means you're gonna have three
guys on Japan's World Baseball Classic winning team in that
game in the Tokyo Dome. But a real major league game,
not a tournament, not an exhibition. Sho Heyo Tani Yoshinobu Yamamoto,
the guy who is the winning pitcher for the Cubs
today fourteen to two showta Imanaga. And also they have

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outfielder say A Suzuki from Japan on the Cubs. He
would have played in that tournament except for injury. The
rest of the major league clubs will start their regular
seasons on March twenty seven, but before that, two games
Dodgers Cubs.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Steves like, do anybody remember this when it comes down
to like one game in the wildcard standings?

Speaker 4 (23:40):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Like right now, if that's what costs you.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
But I'm just saying, I just.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm just saying, like if like the Guardians and the
Roles right now are battling for the AL Central League,
I just it just drives me.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Why can we just play games regular?

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Let that be pre season.

Speaker 8 (23:56):
The presenting sponsor for this next March happens to be
the financial company that owns the Dodgers, and Major League
Baseball keeps wanting to play overseas games like we saw
the London games this summer. They certainly opened seasons overseas
in Japan before. I remember when Ichiro was with Seattle.
You don't like the Germany games for the NFL.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Oh oh, Steve, there's a few very few things in
sports I hate less, hate less or more.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Hey, hey, there you go.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
It was like I couldn't or I could care less.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
I just mixed up.

Speaker 8 (24:29):
I could not care less. I care at the absolute minimum.
Now therefore I could not care less.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah, that's the they infuriate me. They're putting an NFL
franchise over there as soon, guys, so just get used
to it, which.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Does not soon.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
But but can we just play the games at the
same time if it was if it was at one
o'clock Eastern, you could play it in the moon for
all I care.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
But that the fact that a six thirty local time bothers.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Me a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
I remember they did play like ten am Pacific times
some of those, and it really just got lost in
the shuffle. It wasn't special at all. So if you're
gonna hold it there, you kind of have to have
it in its own standalone window.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
It makes for a really long day for some people.
But yeah, six thirty in the morning, that's what West
Coast fans are looking at because those Europe games are
not going anywhere. Lost football, I'm sick if you even
have the channel may trade baseball. Today. Baltimore beat Houston
three to two. The Orioles now half game behind the
first place Yankees in the Al East. Colorado beat the

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Yanks in New York nine to two. San Francisco is
a four to three winner at Seattle. Starter Blake's now
no decision, three inning, six walks for him in progress.
The Tigers are leading nine to three at the White
Sox bottom of the fourth. It's already nine to three
in the fourth inning. If the White Sox lose tonight,
their record will be thirty one and ninety nine. We
still have a week left in August for this season.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Coming there would be the record here we come.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
Phillies lead at Kansas City two to one in the
bottom of the fifth, and it's the Twins five to
nothing over the Cardinals in the bottom of the fifth.
As for preseason NFL games in progress, the Jets lead
in the second quarter ten nothing over the Giants and
coming up in an hour and a half Cleveland at Seattle.
Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson out tonight, still hasn't played a
game since last November when he had shoulder surgery. The

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Browns traded defensive tackle Chris Williams to the Bears. And
then there's the college football opener in Dublin today preseason
number ten. Florida State beaten by Georgia Tech twenty four
to twenty one on a forty four yard Fueld goal
on the final play. Montana State was a winner on
FS one at New Mexico thirty five thirty one with

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three touchdowns in the fourth quarter, and currently SMU is
scoreless first quarter at Nevada.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Back to you and thanks, I'm sorry, just really quick.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
The preseason thing, I have some it's probably gonna shock
Martins wile I want to say live on air. This
is the first time. Remember you talked about the preseason
and it's just it's not good, right, not the NFL
product exactly, It's not the NFL product.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
And Ravens are a good example today.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
And I told you I thank you for that because
I used to be a guy who felt like I
had to watch a lot of preseason like cause you
can get that. Maybe you see that guy on that
one team that said, right, and then someone goes down
in week five and this guy gets in and he
has a good season. It's like, oh yeah, I remember
seeing that guy. But because of the way you spoke
about it, I literally have watched the least amount of

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preseason this year that I haven't about the last twenty
five years of my life. I might have watched two
were two full games worth of preseason, most of it Dolphins,
and I just I put it away. I'm like, I'll wait,
it's a week one because, like Steve said, it really
it's not the product.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
No, it's not why we love the NFL.

Speaker 8 (27:46):
And so I find myself watching, instead of four quarters
of a preseason game, taping four games and watching the
first quarter of each of them.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah. Yeah, And on on YouTube TV they have the
video on demand where they condensed all the good place
yeah until like, you know, four minutes and I'll just
go and just click on those Okay, got did That's
an art?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
And then instead of sitting and watching guys.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
That might be shorter than four minutes. The Ravens game, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Steve said, they put absolute garbage out there.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
Eagles too, But why wouldn't you, right, especially today, Yes,
people are getting cut Tuesday. So guys that are getting
cut saw a lot of the field today.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, put some tape out there from another team.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
Yeah, you're not going to risk the backup that I'm
counting on now for the season, a regular roster spot.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
That is true.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
But that's why I said preseason doesn't lie to you.
That's right.

Speaker 8 (28:39):
So Trey Lance is getting every minute of every game
almost this entire preseason, and who cares if he keeps
throwing picks. They kept him in for Dallas five interceptions
in the loss.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Today. We're going to talk about that in just a
little bit.

Speaker 8 (28:51):
You just decide things before the game. There was a
Dallas game a couple of weeks ago. They just decided
we're not going to use our punder, so we'll try
a sixty five yard field goal. We're not punting today.
The punter is standing on the sidelines for four quarters.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah, Mark, you don't have to do it right now
if you want to go into this topic, but I'm
gonna write it down saying for later. I want you
to break down to me the preseason doesn't lie because
I don't I don't get that. I don't get what
you're saying, and what you're what you're what's the correlation?
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
It doesn't lie to us, because right now I've been
told this is the start of college football. You turn
on one of the premier college football networks and they're
playing freaking replay.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Oh, let's find okay, uh, let's find that the American
Conference game of the week that I couldn't wait to
go see Memphis play.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Oh wait, they're not playing today. Oh who's Georgia playing today?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Right?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
They only won lost one game in the last two years.
Oh wait, they're not playing today. You know, we was
playing Florida State and Georgia Tech.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Oh that's it.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
That's all we got.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
That's all we got.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
That's what I'm saying. It is a lie week zero.
Lie State was on earlier.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
That's why I a lie.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
It is a lie. HBCU popping with you and Norfolk
State right now, man, I want to get into this
real quick.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Sure, Atlanta falchuestrated for Matthew Judon, and Matthew Judon when
he got to Atlanta pulled the opposite of Asan Reddick, saying,
not only do I not have a deal right now,
that's Okay, Atlanta doesn't know me as a player.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
I want to earn a new.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Deal, which from my personal perspective as a thirty two
year old defensive end, is a crazy thing to say
out loud, I go ahead and sign me up to
a new deal I need. But it's things like that
out of Judon which makes it really hard to square
for me. When I heard Albert Breer say earlier today.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
Judon was not as well liked by the coaches in
front office people as as you might have thought. And
that was really part of it at the end, was
that they were just sick of him. They felt like
there was the public facing Judon and then there was
Judon behind the scenes, and judo On behind the scenes
has sort of become a little bit of an operator
and has acted warrenth thin with people inside the building.
So like that's and it's something that was an issue

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in Baltimore too, quite honestly. So it's not saying he's
a bad guy, but there was some of this again,
like this sort of cheerleader stuff on social media that
a lot of people in the organization would roll their
eyes at. And then when he became a problem this summer,
there was all right, like, what do we do to
move him off the roster now, because we're trying to
build a new program and we don't want this hovering

(31:19):
over us.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Hovering over you again, that was Albert Berg. Excuse me
hovering over you?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Like I follow Matthew Judalo both on all social medias
that are available to do so right, like everywhere he's at,
not just because I'm a big I actually know the kid,
so it's not like it's out of the weird, but
I follow him on Twitter, fhon on Instagram, all of that.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
All he does on.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Social media, our youth to do is tweet at people
who were like on the block for example, or like
like a couple of years ago, when Stefan Gilmour was
about to sign with the Cowboys for the first time,
he was like, he was tweeting at bump and run
Gilmore come to New England right at.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
A time in which New England was.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Not very good.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Is the best way to free I was gonna probably
have to make somebody do some working. Don't you just say,
fuck idea, Oh, we don't want.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
This holding over our organization. What exactly do you not
want holding over your organization?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Like Hassan Reddick right now is actively holding over the
Jets organization right now. I happen to think it was
probably mismanagement by the Jets, but still, nonetheless, the Assan
Reddick situation is such. Matthew Judon has been the best
player on the New England Patriots since Tom Brady left
all right, double digit sacks just about every year, was
league leader in sacks up until a week.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Thirteen or fourteen last year.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
And so then to go on and say we don't
want this hanging over us anymore. What a good player
A guy who says no, in fact, come join us.
Like who else is doing recruiting for like in the
NFL in general, not very many people, maybe a quarterback
or two. Matt You know what I'm saying, I'm the
face of this franchise. Understand, on the face of this franchise,

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I'm gonna try to put out good vibes towards this franchise,
A franchise who just turned Brandon not yuk is begging
the San Francisco forty Niners to pay him thirty some
million dollars to play wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
The Patriots said, we'll do it. He said, matter of fact, no,
thanks rather or not? Like what do you talk like?
We don't want this hanging over the organization.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I'm not saying that Albert Breer is lying, but I'm
saying that people who told him that are talking out
the left side of that mouth.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
So crazy, it's ridiculous. Yeah, this is easy for me.
This is a sucker move. And I see, I don't
like stuff like this. And we talked about this when
PG decided not to sign with the Clippers and was
gonna sign with Philly. Vic Fangio did this with the
Dolphins defensive players last year. If you if you gonna
talk trash like say it, why I'm say it, Why
I'm here, don't wait till I leave, you know what

(33:55):
I'm saying. And if I'm gone and I'm happy and
I'm somewhere else and you're that I'm gone, then let's
move on.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Everybody move on to do their thing.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
It's like when people break up and there's always that
one person that keeps talking bad about the X among
the group of friends that they all used to know.
You know what I'm saying, It's like.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yo, it's over. You moved on. She moved on. It's cool.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
We still messing with both of y'all, both of y'all.
The Patriots are still a multi billion dollar business. Judan
is still a great defensive player. We let's move on,
you know, peacefully. Let's move on cordially, let's let's go
hand on our business. The whole thing where oh, wasn't
like that? And b Moore, why do we hear about it? Then?
I know most people go, well, be more cheps. No,
if there's real problems with players, we hear about it.

(34:36):
We hear about it. We don't when there's always when
somebody's because the Patriots signed you, done right?

Speaker 3 (34:43):
That only did they They acquired him and then signed
into a big time deal. Yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
You're telling me that a guy that was so hard
to deal with and not only give him big bread
Bill Belichick, gave him big break Bill Belichick, who torch
you and built your defense around them. But what you
should have saying, like.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
They said, we have a little trouble getting around with
like there was consistently Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Andy said, oh he's too hard on players.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
He's do this, he's do that. So Juno was such
a problem that this guy who doesn't like anybody gave
him big money and you and we know belichickle bench
you belichickle sit you belichickle cut he does. So if
this guy was so bad, that's what I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah,
And once again, this isn't on Breer. He's just doing
his job. He's reporting what he's being told. But I'm
with Martin on this. It's a sucker move. And whoever

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told him this, put your name on it, say with
your chest. My pop's always say if you can't put
your name on it, keep your mouth shut. Period.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
It's just to me, it's just I.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Mean, that's why you want to talk about I not
kind of like rolled my eyes at it and watch
how bad they beut this year? Watch back to the
Patriots had this conversation earlier when Brandon I turned them down.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Do the Patriots have an image issue? The Patriots have?

Speaker 4 (35:52):
And I kind of rolled, I'm like, what are you
talking about? Like I'm sure, like you know, who knows
what the situation was, who knows what the other offers
are for you out there?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like it's hard to just say, oh, he turned this down,
because very rarely in the NFL do we see guy
wants to get paid team willing.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
To pay him, and then and they turn it down.
And they turned it down right, So I figured there
had to be some other something there.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
It's the Patriots. Now I'm realizing there might not be
because you're gonna go ahead and literally the best player
you've had on the team since Tom Brady walked out
the door. Ye, and you're gonna sit there and be like, oh,
you know, he was a problem child.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
There's thirty two.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Year old defensive and who goes down to Atlanta and says, no,
I'm gonna earn my new contract down here.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Oh, and he's a.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Problem and he was a problem in Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Okay, get out of here, Get out of here.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
But you know what, also, to a lot of people
who were watching this game last night complaining about this rule,
I agree with you. This rule needs to get up
out of here too. We'll talk about it coming up next.
Martin Wis's Vida Husky Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Don't listen the Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Shout out to Brendan B eighty one as Martin Weiss
and Bid Hussey come to you live from the Tirack
dot Com studios. Brendon B eighty one was the guy
I was talking about if the Raiders fan. Yes, he
is listening, and he tagged this back. That's what I
would say.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
That's the guy. I couldn't remember.

Speaker 9 (37:13):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Hold on, let me go? Did he did? You said?
I think you were. I think that was me. You
were refersent earlier when you mentioned the guy always teet
about the Raiders. It'll be interesting to see week one
the Chargers as burst the Chargers as to how their
defense holds up against Herbert. Hmm, it will be yeah,
it will be. Yes, that is that's where's that game at?

(37:34):
I believe it's probably Okay, it's it's either in l
A or Vegas. Okay, we got that is here?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Is here? Thanksty? I appreciate your brother. All right, so
is here? Uh now give me the Chargers. Give me
the Chargers like the Raiders. Listen their defense. I think
it will be fine.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
I do. They could have played on the moon and
you would have picked Jimmy Berger's but but well, of course,
well if there was a moon.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
But if I please, you casted the to break characters. Listen,
trust me. I just saw that and let it.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
That is the first time I've ever maybe missed this
same girl laugh like that, and I feel I did
I not tell you anything? When I walked in there,
I said it was gonna be a great show. The
gates are up. You did when the gates are up, Man,
it's beautiful. I already know it's gonna be dope. Man,
already know it's gonna be dope. But give me, give
me the charge. But the Raiders, Martin, you know, as

(38:24):
was I do, they don't have a quarterback. I don't listen.
I'm not trying to dug Quarterbacks exist. Say it again.
Quarterbacks exist, Yes, they do, because they're right here. I
can touch them. I can touch them, I can feel them,
I can you know. I like I watched them walk
around that thing up there. Man, Why does it look
different so many times? Why is it never the same?

Speaker 6 (38:42):
Like?

Speaker 3 (38:42):
The sun literally exists?

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I love the son, don't you see this?

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Tan?

Speaker 4 (38:46):
I love the sun. Me and the son are friends.
But quarterbacks, Raiders don't have one. That's just gonna be
there strung. You think the Raiders are gonna be horrible?
You know? Are your words?

Speaker 5 (38:55):
I do?

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, you think they're gonna be horrible? I like, what's horrible?
Four less than five wins. Wow, it's four and thirteen.
Oh my god, I thought I thought seven and ten. No,
I thought seven and ten.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Not a chance. Wow. Okay, all right, well, look hey
Brandon bb one, that you heard it, so answers your question.
I'm a big fan of my boy Brandon. Yeah, yeah,
of course.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
And an Antonio Pierce, that's our long beach poly guy.
Maybe if Brandon was playing quarterback and everything field b
you still got that arm like that out there, man.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
So yesterday in the CFL our Thursday evening in the CFL,
the team won twenty to nineteen. They missed the game
winning field goal though. Okay, but the Toronto Argonauts and
kicked them game winning field goal. Missive miss it? You think, Oh,
they can't win. It's nineteen to nineteen, TI game, We're

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going overtime.

Speaker 7 (39:51):
No.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
There's a thing called a rouge. It comes into play when.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
The kicking team kicks a field goal or punched the
ball and the opposing team is an able to retrieve
the ball from out of their end zone or the
ball goes out of the back of the end zone.
In this case, the field goal miss goes out of
the back of the end zone. Awarding the Argonauts one
point on a ruge, giving them a win twenty to nineteen.
And because we're in the middle of college football Week zero,

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people were actually watching this because they're looking for football,
and they were confused, and.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
So people were upset that the ruge exists.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
VJ. What are your thoughts winning a game on a
missed field goal? I love it because it's different. I
love it because it's different, and it don't happened here,
so I ain't got to worry about it. Ain't never
gona happen in the NFL, is never gonna have in
high school. It's never gonna happen in college football here.
So it's Canadian football. They got different rules, man, I'm
not mad at it. Their receivers are allowed to start
moving and running towards the line of scrimmage before they
snapped the ball.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
It's different up there, it is. See this happens week zero.
You have people all confused. This is the worst trade
NFL history, and it keeps raising its ugly head.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
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Speaker 4 (41:40):
There, right right there, perfect on the dot So Steve
said it in his update just a minute ago. But
I think back here, it's a wild world. Back in
twenty twenty one, but the Houston Texans traded to Seawan
Watson sight unseen right, what are we gonna do with quarterback?

(42:02):
The answer they had was, we don't know Davis Mills
for two years, but they traded.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
One player, Deshaun Watson, who at the time had been
accused by more than twenty different women of sexual misconduct
of varying degrees. Four A twenty twenty two first round
pick twenty twenty two to fourth round pick twenty twenty three,
first round pick twenty twenty three, third round pick twenty
twenty fourth first round pick twenty twenty four fourth round

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pick bj.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
In total, that is six picks.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Over three drafts, three first rounders, two fourth rounders, and
one third round round.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
That turns into guys like Tank Dell that turns into.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Guys like got traded, Got, Kate Stover, Christian Harris, Damian Pierce,
John Metchi, the third.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
All of these okay here is right here. Directly or indirectly.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
The Houston Texans acquired Kenyon Green, tackle John message At third,
Christian Harris, Thomas Booker, Dami Appears, Will Anderson Junior, Kayln Bullock,
Tank Del Kamala Lasser, Jamal Hill, Kate Stover, and a
twenty twenty five second round pick.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
All for Deshaun Watson. Okay, who since getting becoming a
Cleveland Brown.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Has played horribly.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Yes, he has had one good half, Yes, that half
against the Ravens last season, and in that half he
ended up having to miss the remainder of the season.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Because apparently if he had gotten hit on the shoulder
one more time, his shoulder would have fallen apart. That
was literally the reporting was there was nothing holding his
shoulder and structure. Had he gotten hit, it would have
been a rap.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Yeah. And then not only that, I'm not quite done
yet because Deshaun Watson's contract five years, two hundred and
thirty million dollars fully guaranteed, with they forty five million
dollars signing bonus to boot. This is, without a doubt, unquestionably,

(44:18):
undisputed the worst trade in NFL history.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
It is already the worst trade in NFL history, because now.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Really, are the Houston Texans right now, four your three
years later not better than the Cleveland Browns Right now?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
The Houston Texans are better than the Cleveland Browns are
right now in part because they got six picks back
and then all types of things with them. Out of
that list I named, one of them was defensive Rookie
of the Year. Kenyon Greens is starting offensive tackle. John
Metchi will see what he could do. Tankdell had a
great year before he broke his leg and got shot.

(44:57):
He's right back in preseason cooking. You know the Cleveland
Browns would like off all those guys, all those guys,
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
And without it, they wouldn't have been able to draft CJ.
Stroud And not to mention that, I'm sorry. The last
thing is that Cleveland now had a team that was
like on the remember on the verge, you know where
they are now three steps back.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
They're They're not. They're not the best team in the division.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
You know, if you look at teams that are, you know,
just favored in terms of win loss or over under whatever.
They're coming in third to Baltimore and Cincinnati. Cleveland might
not make the playoffs this year.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
And the only reason they even had a chance to
make make the playoffs last year was because they hadn't
not because of their their fully guaranteed quarterback who they
traded a million picks for, it because of their defense.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
PJ.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Walker started four against them last year. Yeah, uh, bite
back a little bit on Houston being this better team
because Nick Chubbs back this year. Amari Cooper is a
in my being the top eleven, twelve, maybe ten receiver
in the league. Listen, the topic is the Shawn so
I'll stick there and what's happened with this is I

(46:10):
think the reason why I can't call this the worst
trade in NFL history just yet, because I'm old enough
to remember the Dallas Cowboys, Minnesota Vikings and Herschel Walker
and what that turned into was Emmett Smith, Troy Aikman,
Michael Lrvin, Larry Allen, and a bunch of other players.
I believe too that maybe Brock Marriam might have been

(46:31):
one of them also too, but I know some defensive
guys too. But Jimmy Johnson pulled that move off and
then went and won Super Bowls off that trade. That
trade set Dallas up to win Super Bowls. Houston has
won one playoff game since they've made that trade. Okay,
so that's number one there. But with DeShawn you talk
about a guy wh's got a career record of thirty

(46:53):
six and twenty nine, not great, right, But the touchdown
in interception ratio because when he plays and when he's
been healthy, and when he's he's been focuseding locked in
his last time out of a real season where he
before all of the allegations all that stuff happened, forty
eight hundred yards, thirty three touchdowns, and he led the
league in three categories that year, and career wise, he's

(47:15):
one eighteen touchdowns to forty five interceptions. So there's some
things there. I think that if he can show up
and be healthy, now, do I think he's done. I'm
kind of leaning towards yeah. Because football is just one
of those sports you can't miss a lot of time.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
You just can't roll out of bed and go play.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
You have to train all year law, you gotta do OTAs,
you gotta do volunteer, you gotta do involuntary. You gotta
go to the performance places and the performance academies and
work with the quarterback guru and do the quarter and
do it the guru training it. You have to do
that in football, year in and year out to maximize
your talent and your ability that you've worked on and
that God has given you. He has not been able

(47:58):
to do that. He's gotten there. So I'm I'm gonna
hold out a little bit on worst trade ever.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Doesn't look good right now.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
No, But once again, I remember that Herschel Walker Dallas
Cowboy trade, and that trade literally literally got Jimmy Johnson
to take the Cowboys the Super Bowls and.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Won Super Bowl rings. Sure, but what it didn't do
is take the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
They went six and ten the year after and then no,
I'm looking at it right now, they did not finish
under five hundred after that they trade.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
That trade was October twelve, nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
They finished under five hundred one year that the one
time in that stretch making the playoffs one, two, three, four, five,
six seven times in that stretch.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
So are you saying Cleveland? So are you saying Cleveland
is tank because of that trade? Because you say, well,
Minnesota didn't tank like going to the tank after I'm
saying Minnesota after two years after they traded Rehearsa Walker
won the division.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Okay, the second year they were in the wildcard. The
new year after that they won the division. Okay, Cleveland's
not winning any division.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
They're not gonna win a division because they have Cincinnati
and Baltimore. They're right, But they did go to the
playoffs last year without Deshaun Watson. You feel what I'm saying,
like they that's a good football Cleveland's got a good
football team, which is why if.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
They didn't trade for Deshaun Watson and just did everything
the same, Even if they had just missed on all.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Six draft picks, they'd be in a better spot. You
think that they wouldn't have think about the captains. They
were just in the player Martin Listen. They were just
in the playoffs last year. Like it isn't like they
were four and thirteen last year. They were just in
the playoffs last year. They filled They're going to field
a very good football team this year on both sides
of the football. They had one of the best defenders

(49:38):
in football and Miles Garrett, who I think is probably
gonna be close to win the Defensive Player of the
Year this year.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
He's gonna have fifteen sixteen sacks.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
They have a great a corner, I believe Denzel Denzel
Warden is am I saying that correctly. And then one
of those, yeah, one of those, one of those guys
up in the school in Ohio. Chub's gonna be back.
They have the Mario Cooper. No, they they have weapons there.
They have it's all the in a pond. What the
Shawn's gonna do when he comes back because they can't
They can't mcgiver for the quarterback position this year.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
They can't do that back to back years. It's gotta be.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
You know why they had to because the guy with
the most guaranteed money in the NFL buy who's that
ten ten million dollars is absent?

Speaker 3 (50:20):
No, I'm with you, the guy with a twenty two
percent cap.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
But you talking about how great the roster is that
Cleveland has, well, I think imagine if they weren't spending
just short of a quarter of their cap on Deshaun Watson,
how much better would the roster be?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Okay, so if DeShawn, if DeShawn comes back this year
and they go eleven and six, will you get if
DeShawn comes.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Back this year, they're not going eleven at six?

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Really where you got him? They're not gonna go eleven
and six and a AFC North. They're just not How
many teams in the AF year are gonna even win
eleven games? Well, I think Cincinnati and Baltimore both can
win eleven twelve games.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
That's the reason why Cleveland ain't winning no.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Eleven? What was clevelan last year? Even and six or
ten and seven? They were right there last year they
won where there eleven and sixty inch? I think they
were eleven and six or ten and seven last year
Because at one point. They were in first place in
that division at one point in the season last year,
cause we.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Know what Pittsburgh was, this is a team. Then, Yeah,
they were eleven and six last year. So again, think
about it. Think about it. There were eleven and six
and their starting quarterback who they pay two hundred and
thirty million dollars to did Jack? Okay, So just imagine
you take league average quarterback with league average salary like

(51:31):
war in baseball, right, take take the the wins above
replacement level quarterback, and you put him in Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
That team might win the Super Bowl. They scuttled all
opportunity that signed to Shaun.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Watch it. It's the worst trade that we've seen. It's
the worst trade that we've seen. Like I said, I
can't go with that because it can be the worst
trade that we've seen. They win eleven and six last year,
and it's the second worst trade that we've seen. If
he comes, if he comes, listen, So it's not hers,
it's the second worst. I'm going to Vikings didn't have
that sad more success. I'm gonna hold out on calling
it that worst trade that I want. I want to

(52:05):
see what DeShawn does this year. I think this is
his This isn't making a break a year. I will
say that this is Deshaun Watsons making a break a year.
This year he's got to come back and he's got
to play, uh, top notch. They're over underwins total was
eight and a half. Where are you going under? So
you're going they'll take the over and at all day under,
they'll take the over and out all day I'll take it.
They'll they'll they'll get the ten wins. The Browns will

(52:27):
get the ten wins and they don't.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
So you're telling me that there's gonna be a division
with three teams with double digit wins?

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Yes, why not? Wasn't that the case? That was not
the case. No, that's right. Pittsburgh was nine. Sorry, and
then and then of course Cincinnati had you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Play last year, Pittsburgh had ten wins.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Okay, my bad, So there you go. They had three
because that minute they had Baltimore, that the Cleveland and
then they had.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Pittsburgh and the Bengals had nine wins.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
They'll do it again. It'll be there'll be three teams
in that division with double digit wins. Absolutely, absolutely, I
ain't bet knowing it, Yeah, I will, I will, I
put it on that again. I just think that that
ross is great and they have they have some start
really studded town. It all depends not I agree with
everything people saying about DeShawn Watson. In my opinion, this
is a show me year right now for him. This
is this is the year right now. You've been hurt the.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Last two years.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
The one other year you that were suspended, you had
to sit out. It's now, brother, you have to show
if he plays and plays. I would say eighty percent
of the Deshaun Watson we've seen before, which one because
eighty percent of the Deshaun Watson we've seen before twenty
twenty Deshaun Watson the forty hundred yards and thirty nine touchdowns,

(53:33):
I know, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Saying the last time we saw that, Josh Allen of
throwing latters behind him. But here's the thing. Eighty percent
of that.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Would you agree that eighty percent of the twenty twenty
Deshaun Watson would equal all the quarterbacks that they played
last year? Would you at least eighty percent of that
would agree what equal what all those quarterbacks did last year?

Speaker 3 (53:50):
And that was an eleven and sixteen.

Speaker 7 (53:51):
No.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Eighty first of.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
All, eighty percent of that would have been better with
all those quarterbacks attributed last year.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
It is just a chance that he's like, it's gone.
Joe Flacco was playing last year. Yeah, Uncle Flax, Uncle Flako.
He ran out of fact. He was better than DeShawn.
That's my point.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
That's my point, DeShawn. That's the thing that Shawn has
been Listen. The year off hurd him it because when
he came back, he looked rusty as hell. You as
a quarterback, you've got to throw a football twelve time,
twelve months a year. You can't do it just between
August and January. You have to throw a football twelve
months a year, and you're sitting and you're hurt and

(54:28):
then you're suspend. Is he has not had a lot
of time, and I'm not. I don't want this to
sound like a DeShawn Watson defits, because it's not. I
want to see what happens this year because now you're
you know, you're supposed to be healthy, it's supposed to
be ready to go.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
You get chubbed back. Okay, here we go, now, buddy,
this is your show me year.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
If you do it this year, I'll jump on the
band wagon that you guys are and I'm like, all right,
you're done.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
But I got it.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
He hasn't been healthy, so we haven't seen him healthy
since twenty twenty. Let's see him healthy, Let's see him
win his pieces, and let's see what happens the US.
The rust has got to be off. Now you got
to step in and perform. I'm not defending the guy,
but I'll hold off just calling it. You know he's
done now he performs poorly this year, Like say, he's
bitched by week seven? Done?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
How gonna bench him?

Speaker 4 (55:10):
You're paying him two hundred and thirty million dollars the
next three year. I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
I don't think that.

Speaker 7 (55:14):
Don't matter how you gonna bench if you would have
to bench him, because then you're paying you one hundred
and fifty million dollars to make your team act.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
In the NFL.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
You get bitch, doesn't matter how much money you making
in NFL.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
This is what I get bitched if you're not playing
Joe Flacco's comeback player of the Year. You know what
they said in Cleveland, we gotta get him off this
roster because you know it's gonna.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Happen by week three.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Flack oh, flack, oh, flack, oh, Hei, get this bum
out of here.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Put Joe in the game. That's all. You're here for
the dog pound. That's it. He's also fifty four years old.
I mean, you know, but.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
That's the point.

Speaker 10 (55:47):
He's not.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Even though in certain quarterback here PJ. Walker, it would do.
In the same story.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
That's why they got all new backups in Cleveland because
he Keith plays so poorly in the regular season that
by week tour, let the Brown start.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I don't, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
I don't have the schedule off the top of my head.
They may be on the Let's say they're on the
road for the first two games, go oh and two.
They come back in the first quarter of Week three,
the first quarter, if they go three and out in
the first quarter, you would hear pej pejay again, write
this one down.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
This would be one of me and more and some
guy from Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I can't do a Cleveland actually, but some guy from
Cleveland will be like remember last year when PJ Walker,
he was one bad throwaway from beating the calls.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Forty five points we put up.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Now we can't even move the ball with this guy,
Deshaun Watson as our quarterback. Home against the home against
the Cowboys at the Jacks, Home against the Giants at
the Raiders, at the Commanders, at the Eagles to start
the year, before going back home on October twentieth for
a game against the Bengals at home. Watch let them go.
Let them start the year two and one. One of
those Cowboys game. Let's say they lose to the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
And the Giants.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
I think they beat the Cowboys at home, and then
you don't love the jag you don't love the Jacks.
So they're at the Jacks, so they can start too,
and oh they start to know. The conversation is totally different.
And then they're at the Raiders. It depends on how
he plays. I'm sorry. The Giants come in, and then
they're at the Raiders. So three teams that you personally
don't think are gonna be good at all this year.
They got the Cowboys at home week one, I get

(57:13):
give me the Browns. I'll take the Browns week going
at home against the Cowboys straight up, and then they're
beating the Jacks.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
They'll go down there and beat the Jacks. Nobody believes
in the Jacks.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Nobody. We're not gonna start the alllite. People love the
Jacksonville Jaguars right now, we know they don't. So Giants Raiders.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
What I need to be the worst trade and the
NFL history to what may be the second worst.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Trade NFL history. We'll get to that one coming up next.
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Speaker 2 (58:09):
I'm at Martin Wise VJ at the Big Vanilla Funny
like Oga. One C says the Browns only made the
playoffs last year because Borrow wasn't healthy. Browns will go
eight and nine. Oh he had another one drug test VJ.
The Browns are whack as hell.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Oh, oh drug test VJ. Eleven and six last year. Okay,
I listen, I saw what I had to say. Guys,
I don't have nothing to say. Back eleven and six
last year without Deshaun and a quarterback, carousel, door going.
He comes back and he's eighty percent of wheels in
twenty twenty. I like the over in eight and a half.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I'll say this, if Bryce Young was eighty percent of
what he was in twenty twenty, AFL a lot better
about his NFL career right now, but it's not looking
good so far in Carolina.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
He did play yesterday.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
What do you What is Bryce Young and the Panthers
need to do this season to show that he wasn't
a bust or show that this pick is not going
to be a bust.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Just get better that they have to get better in
a lot of aspects of the game. You're not the
worst team in the league off of one guy. You're
not the worst team in any league off of one guy.
If you're the worst team in baseball, it's not one guy.
You're the worst team in the NBA. It's not one guy.
They got a new head coach, former offensive coordinator for
the Temp Bay Buccaneers that got Baker Mayfield paid another
one hundred mil. Is not going to be the head

(59:24):
coach there, and it should be the guy to come
in there and you know, get his quarterback going. They
got to protect him. They gotta put guys in front him.
He had one of the worst They had one of
the worst protection rates in the league last year. The
kid ran for his life and you got to give
him some weapons. You got to give him some guys,
some dudes to get the ball to that can go
house and that can do big things for you. And
then on the defensive side of the ball. The division

(59:44):
isn't great this year, so they should be better, but
they need to improve like a team around and that
will help Bryce Shunk improve as a player, because if
you put the line in front of him and you
give him a decent team, a decent cast, the characters
around him, then he can improve. But if if it's
gonna be the same garbage that it was last year,
then no, that still wouldn't make me. And it's not
even being a b y guy. That just still wouldn't

(01:00:06):
make me go, oh, he's a bust. You gotta put
guys around quarterbacks. No quarterback could come in the league
and do it themselves. That has never happened in the NFL. Ever,
No quarterbacks ever stepped onto the field in the first
round and it had nothing around him and was like,
oh here I am. Hey, all fifty two other of
you get on my shoulders, all you bad guys. I'll

(01:00:27):
take us to the Promised Land. So they got to
put guys around. Saint Stroud was successful last year and
the only new receiver they added on that roster was
Dalton Schultz from the from the Cowboys, Dell was a
third round pick. It doesn't, ma, don't try to add
third round pick like that, Like that knocks down Tank Dell.
He was in addition to the offense and a big
and a big portion of it. But if it's not

(01:00:49):
buying this, because if Tank that like one of the
top left tackles and football and Larry Tebal who's an
All Pro left tackle, was he not there the year before?
And what does that mean? Though they won three games
with All Pro left tackle, Like the reason why you
drag a quarterback in the top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Is because you think he's going to change your futures.
You think he's going to cover up everything that's going wrong.
That's why I have to do that in one year.
I mean, you do you have to hear it. That's
why I asked, what does he need to do this year?
The show wasn't a bust right now? If it's another
year like last year strong, that's bust. So what do
you have to do to not be But the team,
first of all, is not what he has to do.

(01:01:24):
Once again, they were terrible on a lot of fact,
on a lot of you know parts of the football team.
They were terrible last year. So you have to actually
put guys around somebody for them to be successful. And
give don't give me that a left tackle was there
the year before. But when you get a better quarterback,
then let me ask you this with C. J. Stroud,
better than what they had the year before.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
The quarterback position, so right this So, but having a
great left tackle helps that young quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
That's better. If you don't have that left tackle and you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Get a better quarterback and you still got a crappy tackle,
that quarterback can't shine because you still got a crappy tackle.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Everything starts up from you wish.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Zach Will said, I got this level of rope when
he got drafted by the Jets. Second overall, he did
get this level of rope.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
He was there for four years. I'm just talking about
he was you're.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
The jacktar am I am I lying.

Speaker 7 (01:02:09):
No, he's there for three years. I think the same
same points stands there. But I mean guys like Josh Rosen,
he didn't show anything in his first year and he
was out the door. But I get, you know, it's
it's the circumstances.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
But you got to surround them with all this other stuff.
Right when Kyler walked in the whole team that year.
I did this all last year. I'm not gonna do
this today. I did this all last year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Anybody that knows football knows he's like, you gotta get better.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Why they trust me, guys, this is not even real
footballs all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
This guy's smart. This guy said to my right is smart.
He watches high school. He watches football just.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Like I do.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
He know, damn well, you gotta put players around the
quarterback on the football field. But but Bryce Shun's the
only one who can't have this light to them, right,
He's like oo oos can't have tyreek, ooz can't have wattle.
He's gotta have garbage and make it work. But you
give a guy some weapons and it's oh, he's got
this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Because Bryce Young could be on the Chiefs and it'll
still be a problem because he's five seven and he
can't see over the line of grimm.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
He's not and he's not in the lead athlete. All right,
Well that's the difference. Like if he if he was
running around like Kyler Murray, I had nothing to say
because you can escape pro pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
He can't do it. He's too short, and he's not
an elite and he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
And there's the people, and there's people who's already out
on Caler Murray, just people who like him. But there
are plenty of people who are out on Caler Murray
who can run around and do all these things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
The Arizona Cardinals give Hi two hundre million guarantees, so
I don't think they're paid.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Well, come on, man, you gotta pay. We we talked
about that, so you gotta pay your court. You you
believe you got the guy. The Jets didn't pay Zach Wilson.
But you don't gotta pay it. We don't see it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
You don't want to pay it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
We can see he wasn't it. But you're saying Bryce
wasn't it after win year. Okay, I'm like I said,
I'm not doing this today. I'm not getting I'm not
getting pulled into this. Well you know, I'm not get
pull I'm gonna run down.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
He's curious.

Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
But the difference too, though, is that is that Carolina
traded for Bryce Young.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Even they traded to the pick that ended up being
Caleb Williams, right, and then dj Moore the weapon that
they could have had for Oh that guy, where did
he come from? Again?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Ya ask right, Carolina, Let me ask you a question.
And I think Kayle's better, So I'm not going there.
But this case have a better surrounding cast for him
as a rookie than Bryce Young. Ha Yes or no?

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Unquestionable.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
A big part of the reason why because of the
massive trade that the Panthers made.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
C Stroud have a better supporting cast than Bryces Young
last year.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Yes or no?

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Yes, Okay, let's stop stopped doing this. Who was there
doing it? But the idea not doing this. Nico Collins,
how long.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Has he been a Texan? Why does that?

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
Matt?

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Why are you trying to make that matter?

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Because they're all these guys that you're talking about safe,
Tank Dell and Bill Anderson Junior were the same guys
that were there with Davis Mills where they won three games.
No did Nico got better? And Nico worked on this
game and got better. I didn't think Nico was gonna
last in the NFL. And that's a Michigan guy. But
when he got there, he got a slow start to
the NFL, couldn't get off press coverage and had to
drop seat.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
I let me tell you something. With in the NFL,
he still might not have made it okay.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Well, because if Davis Mills was supposed to be the
guy getting in the ball, we saw how that happen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Who work?

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Who's Wh's Carolina's best receiver last year? Adam Dealing coming
off of what? Well it would have been ted, come
off of what a man? A thirty year old plus
receiver coming off of an ACL is his best weapon?
Come on, man, stop, I'm not doing this. We got
eighteen twenty weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
I'm not doing this today. So so but you still
happen square down the answer.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
What does it have to do?

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Yeahs to show that he's not a bus state.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
First of all, like anybody else, you gotta put a
damn team around him. Then he can ask maybe then
we can judge him to see what he can do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Okay, so we're blaming the Carolina front office.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
I mean for every pick but the one that they
made with the number one overall pick last year. The
guy to see that throws drinks on fans y, I'll
blame him. Well, he's the owner of the team. He
didn't draft the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Maybe we should be drafting the Carolina front office for
drafting Bryce Young with the number one overall pick.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
That was also a decision they made. Like I said,
I'm not I'm not doing that. I just want to
know what it has to be told you, bro, they
got to put we can judge him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
What does better mean? When they are in a they're
in the division.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
So winnable that the Cardinals that the Cardinals, the Falcons
traded for Kirk Cousins, who's thirty six years old with
one achilles tendon, just traded for a thirty two year
old pass sure and called Justin Simmons off his couch
when all the other teams the NFL were like, you know,
we're good on that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
That's how winnable this division gave Atlanta. We can load
up and win it. I gave my answer. This is
one of the topics in sports and football we talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
So they just gotta get back. Can I finish that?
You gotta get back? Not make the playoffs, not wild card?
You got it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
You gotta double not not even five hundred better?

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
What does better mean? Better than last year? All right, Well,
it's gonna be hard to be worse than the worst team.
And all right, put in them on Winnesday. Since you
want somebody to put a number on it, you put
a number on it. They're gonna win less than five
games this year? Is that better last year?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Marginally?

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Is it better than last year? Look, it's cold in Alaska.
It's colder than the Arctica once cold and coach still
don't want to wear a coat.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Still, but it's it's way cold.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
If you can freeze the deafinite, uh and Antarctica, you
can freeze to death in Alasta.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Well, you freeze deafine Colorado too, So.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Saying, but you know you're gonna need a different size
coach for Antarctica verse Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Listen, man, People that listen to us long enough, they
know what this is about. This is a Martin VJ.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Bryce Young. Thing I'm not doing is the need to
put a team around him. Then we can judge him
a lot better, like we do every other quarterback in football,
like we do every other quarterback in football. Opinion of
Daniel Jones. You seem to judge him just fine. You
seem to judge him just fun. But he's had weapons,
He's had weapons in the team around him, and he's
sucked doing it. That's I could judge him because he's

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had Hold up, let me you ask it, you asked me,
Let me answer, but ask me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Let me see.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
The giants are just you know, ask me. The player
pro development is just top notch. They never miss. If
I can't answer, Bro, there's no point in going and
we're not doing. Like I said, I'm not doing this today.
I just want you again. I just want to know
for the number one overall pick last year, I think
I guess that's a crazy question to ask.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
It wasn't a crazy question, my bad. You just don't
want my answer, and then when you ask me a question,
your answer is better. I want Hey, you're right, I
want to answer that's better.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Than that answer.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
You'd like to tell me how to hell to answer.
I answer how I answer?

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
You take it or not?

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Well, I'm not and you see me not taking it
you next topic, next topic, seek to say, I guess
it's offensive to ask what the number one overall quarterback
last year?

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
We'll do this year. I'm sorry for that, but if
you can, please update us, but leave out quarterback talk
because lett to have a team around them, we cannot
accurately ascertain if that fourteen for thirty was accurate or not.

Speaker 8 (01:08:16):
What I got out of the freezing comments from a
couple of minutes ago is we're going to need a
bigger coat.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Can you honestly, Steve, can you save this?

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
And like, is it is it crazy to think that
we need to have like players around a quarterback to
be able to really fairly judge them.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Is that is that?

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Sure, all right, that's what that's what. That's all I'm saying.
My career is not over. Yeah yeah, yeah, oh one year. Dude,
you sat with us all last year. You've heard this conversation.
It was bad.

Speaker 8 (01:08:39):
It was all around bad. The whole team was bad. Yeah,
I changed the coach for a reason. Everything was bad.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Yeah, but I'm but I'm but I'm the but I'm
the crazy one.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
I mean all right, to be fair, Steve just say, yes,
you asked them, am I is it crazy? Steve said yes,
Oh no, no, you didn't hear the question crazy. No, no, no,
no you didn't hear the question. Well, I said, is
it crazy to believe that you have to put that
you could judge without judging a quarterback when I have
a talent around him. He said, yes, it's crazy to
do it that way. Exactly, you got your talent around
a quarterback.

Speaker 8 (01:09:07):
The situation for draftees, we have many, many examples in
NFL history that guys go to good situations and have
a better first couple of years of.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
They're absolutely but the ones that go to bad teams
what normally happens.

Speaker 8 (01:09:18):
And then there's Archie Manning. Yeah, whoa, I just I'm
not saying he's Archie Manning, Bryce Young, but you know I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Saying, but how great would those Saints teams?

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
It's real hard to get the number two overall pick
and if you're a good team, I'll just say that.

Speaker 8 (01:09:33):
Yeah, yeah, Carolina, by the way, a winner that that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Counts as a w right today. I appreciations it does
a lot of us, Steve, don't you start now?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Don't you start?

Speaker 8 (01:09:44):
Thirty one, twenty six at Buffalo Panthers kicker Eddie Pinero
left with a hamstring injury. Dallas All Pro defensive back
Deron Bland will miss six to eight weeks with a
stress fracture in his foot. He'll reportedly have surgery on Monday.
Dallas lost it home to the Chargers twenty six to nineteen.
In this one, believe it or not, Well, we've talked
about how much Trey Lance has played and how much

(01:10:06):
work he has gotten in this preseason. One touchdown, pass,
five interceptions in this loss to the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Got us surrounding with more weapons, that's the problem.

Speaker 8 (01:10:15):
Their offense ran ninety three plays in this game. The
Cowboys had over five hundred and fifty yards, time of
possession was forty one minutes to nineteen, and they lost
to the Chargers, who had not scored a touchdown in
the preseason until today. Just for the record, also, we've
got the late game coming up in a half an hour.
Cleveland at Seattle Browns. Quarterback Deshaun Watson out tonight. Still

(01:10:39):
hasn't played since last November had the shoulder surgery, and
there is a game going on right now in New Jersey.
It is still Jets ten to three over the Giants
in the third quarter. The opener for the college football
season was in Dublin again this year, twenty four to
twenty one. The final because Georgia Tech kicked a forty
four yard field goal on the final play to beat
Florida State, which was preseason number ten. Final seconds before

(01:11:02):
halftime at Nevada Wolfback seventeen to ten over SMU and
on FS one Montana State with three touchdowns in the
fourth quarter. One at New Mexico thirty five to thirty one.
Keegan Bradley leads the PGA playoff by one stroke in
the WNBA. Among the two games, Indiana is in action
and with under six minutes to go, trails seventy nine

(01:11:23):
seventy one at Minnesota as NAFISA Collier has twenty five points,
Caitlin Clark twenty points, eight assists, seven turnovers. So far,
NASCAR's four hundred at Daytona is going on their approaching
lap one hundred of the one to sixty. Joey Logano
in the lead, Ryan Blaney second, Brad Keslowski third to
Major League Baseball Philadelphia's j. T rail Muto with two

(01:11:46):
three run homers. Phillies lead in the ninth ten to two.
At Kansas City. The Guardians are the first place team
in the AL Central, one game over the Kansas City Royals.
Cleveland goes to the ninth with a lead of thirteen
to three against the Rangers. Guardians were two games up
on Minnesota to start the night. Minnesota has won in
shutout fashion six nothing against Saint Louis to the ninth inning.

(01:12:09):
Tiger is still leading at the White Sox nine to four.
It's the Braves three to two over the Nationals top
of the eighth. Matt's leading already five nothing at the
Padres in the bottom of the fourth, and Tampa Bay
got four runs in the first off Clayton Kershaw.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
In La.

Speaker 8 (01:12:24):
It's raised over the Dodgers for nothing Arizona when it's
fifth straight game four to one at Boston. Victories for
San Francisco, Colorado and Baltimore three to two over Houston.
The Orioles now just a half game behind the first
place Yankees in the al e S.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Back to you, thanks Steve, coming up next up now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
I don't know if I want to give him all
the way credit for it though, but he did have
a good one last week. He did have a good
one last week. The clues weren't great, Ja House, how
brushed up? Are you on seven on seven in the Midwest? Now?
Because they got to be aware of these names?

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
I didn't know they played that out there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
What's seven on seven? What's the seven on seven football?

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
That was one of the moleast But but I mean
you asked us like he used to play for a
seven on seven that revealed he's from Louisiana, Middle mid
Midwest cop Stoppers waited.

Speaker 11 (01:13:20):
For l s U Yeah, yeah, I don't remember the
name of the team either, craw Dad's Bootsteppers, boot Liquors,
something like Louisiana. We'll see, how is good his clues
are coming up? Play along, We'd love to have it
and get us on Twitter at Martin Weiss, at Big
Vanilla Funny of course always at Fox Sports Radios. Who
played out of the game of who you got.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
That's next. I just realized I never paid off what
the five years ago today happened in NFL history.

Speaker 6 (01:13:47):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
In fact, we'll do it after who you Got?

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
All right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
How sick would it be if your who.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
You got is the answers of my trivia question?

Speaker 7 (01:13:56):
Uh, that would be a pretty huge coincidence, sane I got.
I don't think it'll be the case, but who knows?

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
Who knows?

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
All Right? Again, I came with two just in case
you guys get one quickly. We'll see.

Speaker 7 (01:14:07):
All right, We'll start with this one. This football player
received his first offer to play college football when he
was a sixth grader in the state of Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
The baby, I'm just kidding. The offer was from West Virginia.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Sixth grader in Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
So right off the bat, anyone come to mind, Matthew Stafford. No,
not a bad guess.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Oh he is from Texas. From Texas offered to West Virginia,
Pat White. No, okay, well for springs, but I don't
know where that is. I just know that next next clue.

Speaker 7 (01:14:42):
When he was finally old enough to be entering college football,
he was the number one overall player in his high school.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Recruiting class dju Alongele No, but I did consider him
for this today, so I'm glad I didn't do it. Well,
he's not from Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
That's number yeah, yeah, uh number one coming out of
his class state of Texas. Vince Young. No, No, not
not a bad guess either though. Well, yeah, he was
definitely number one kid. He's one of the highest rated
kids ever in high school coming out of school.

Speaker 7 (01:15:19):
All right, all right, next, next clue here, and this
this was you know, this was not too long ago.
You might remember this story. He once had his car
toad while he was playing a college football game. He
finished the game, got to his car and it had
been towed, so he didn't get to spear Sanders. No, incorrect,
but oh no, they just put a boot on his
Uh yeah that sounds right. Yeah, that happened last year.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
I think I remember that happening into CJ. Gardner Johnson,
but it happened when he was already a Philadelphia Eagle.
So and I don't think he was the number one
players class, but CJ. No, not him.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Yeah, all right, and this is this is the last
clue I have for this player. His close a horrible
Sorry he's closing. Yeah, we don't even know what TV.

Speaker 7 (01:16:03):
I just don't want to get I feel like if
I give the team, it's gonna give it away. But
let's see, I'll give you the Trea if you don't
get it on this one, so this won't be the
last last clip. He had six three hundred yard passing
games in a season, tied for the most in his
school's history. And I will give you the school. It's
the University of Texas, cult McCoy. No, not Colt McCoy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Hook him.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
Uh, six three hundred yard passing games for Texas and
it's not Colt McCoy.

Speaker 7 (01:16:32):
He was the number one recruit in his class, Quen
Hours quin Owers. Yeah, that correct.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
I was either gonna say, was gonna say Quin yours
or major appeasing a row.

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Let's go quin yours. And now I do have another
one to bring to the table, because we still have
we still have time for another. Let's go all right,
let's go all right, We'll go with this one. Another
football player. He was a high school quarterback before switching
to the position the position excuse me, he would ultimately
play in the pros. High school quarterback, that'd be impressive

(01:17:06):
if you got it off justin.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
I thought there was more coming.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
I mean, there are more coming. You know how many
high school quarterbacks which positions to the pros. It's the
first clue, it's the broadest Antoine randelel no heinz war
no all. I'm gonna give you guys the next cluck.
He led the nation.

Speaker 7 (01:17:24):
This should help with the position as well. He led
the nation in tackles his junior year of college with
one hundred and seventy eight tackles.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
That win tackles, Uh no, no, you know, my thought
was the other guy from Texas A and M. I
can't think of it, but it wasn't that win. But
it was another guy that had over five hundred for
his career.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
So I'm figuring that and tackles.

Speaker 7 (01:17:43):
I'll give you the school he went to New Mexico State,
Brian or Lacker. I shouldn't given you the school back.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
The other clues.

Speaker 7 (01:17:55):
He was selected ninth overall in the NFL Draft in
two thousand. He played thirteen years in the nf fell
all for the same team. He's the first player from
his college, New Mexico State to ever make the Pro
Football Hall of fame, and he finished his career with
forty one and a half sacks, the most ever by
a Bears linebacker. Good stuff, guys, you got it. You
got me this week.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
I would have said, if you hadn't given any of these, well,
if you had given any of the other three clues,
then we would I would not have gotten it. It
wasn't it too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
But Ben Bryan had to go to actual New Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
No, I thought he would.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Maybe it was New Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Was it New Mexico or New Mexico State.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
The Lobos are in New Mexico State, right, No, the
Lobos are New Mexico. He went to New Mexico. All right,
you're right, but hey, you got it off me giving
an incorrect clue. So that's impressive.

Speaker 9 (01:18:38):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
Well, then they lose to Montana State today. If I'm
not mistaken, New Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
New Mexico State Aggies, the Aggies. The other ones are
the Lobos right now, yeah, New Mexico Lobos.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Yeah, the Lobos, the wolf. They had a.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
New Mexico had a basketball player. Now I'm trying to
think of New Mexico and New Mexico State.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
But he was like simbular.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
I believe it was like the tall it's like seven
to six something like that, three hundred pounds, like one
of the biggest players of college basketball history.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
M never heard of him. I mean he didn't do it.

Speaker 7 (01:19:09):
I mean it's a seven yeah, yeah, that New Mexico
State seven foot five center boom.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
This is from an article in twenty thirteen. I'm looking
at you. Yeah, hey, this mine goes back and did
nothing and did nothing with it.

Speaker 7 (01:19:24):
But that's why Martin, I don't want to get too
specific with these clues, is because I'm if I say,
like I didn't even say the right college you went to,
I said New Mexican, New Mexico State, and you're Brian
er Lacker immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
I can't get too specific with these clues. It's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
I tell you what, though you asked me, you could
have asked me a million I would have gotten who
was the ninth pick in the two thousand draft. I
would have gotten that wrong at least fifteen times before
I got it right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Well, who is okay?

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Mary Mack would have got it wrong seventeen times.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
I know eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
We're gonna ask you that at the end of the
show mark you can wait. She's like, I don't want
to play. I don't what the I don't want to play?
Don't ask me? That asked me? Who was in the
Black Eyed Peas? The be Fresh Beginning?

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
I know black Eyed Peace? Who's in the Black Eyed Peas?
Go onions and ham Hank Fergie? Will I am?

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Who else?

Speaker 7 (01:20:17):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Before Fergie? Who was the original girl? There was someone
before Fergie?

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Oh stompyall go Marry, Go marry? Who was stomp Yall?

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Who was?

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Who's the answer? Yeah, Oh, we have ten seconds left.
That's who was it?

Speaker 8 (01:20:35):
Five?

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Oh, I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Tomorrow five years ago, five years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Tomorrow, you're listening to Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
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years ago tomorrow. Ah, that's what it was, Andrew Luckman.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
What a quarterback? What a player? What a player?

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Could you imagine could you imagine if you're a Jets
fan within a quarterback who's old, To put it nicely,
could you imagine if Aaron Rodgers retired tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
But he's old, so that's I mean, it would be
a shocker. But I'm saying that would be a shock.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Even though he's old. You gotta think he's got to
play this year at least. Right nothing, and I've defended
him to no end, but nothing would surprise me right now.
If we woke up tomorrow and it was breaking news
one of the NFL lead writers and Rodgers has decided
to retire, I would just.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
I would literally know to be Trump's running mate.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
I would. I was literally about to say, oh god, no,
I don't do politics.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I was about to say, as VJ said that, I
agree if Aaron Rodgers did retire, what I would not
be surprised?

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
He surprised would be what for?

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Yep, because it would be for something absurd. Yeah, like absolutely,
And if you're retired tomorrow, I would shrug it and
just go Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
He was never remember last year I stated by saying
he wasn't truly sold into it, and it never felt
that way, like going to the games, going to the
nick games, going like hanging out with the guy that's
not who he is and who he's ever been. You
mean during last season or before ahead of last season,
this little New York car wash. He was here here
and sauce garden and we're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Like that good though. I think it's more concerning that
he didn't do the same thing this year. It showed
that it was kind of like, Okay, this is my
first year here. It's kind of like a honeymoon phase.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
You know what which is that's that's the one I'm making,
which I called out. It's like, bro, this is not
you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
You don't change.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Dude, in your thirties and forties. You are who you
are now. You can get better at things. You can
you can stop doing bad things or you know, do
better things in life. Go through some therapy, let your
mind start to work. But you in yourself, myself right
now sitting rare.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Vija Erdosky, this is who I'm would be. This is
who I'm gonna be for rest.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
So I'm not gonna change. If I don't like company
over my house without calling before you come, that's not
gonna change. You can't knock on my door. I'll let
you stand out there. If you didn't call me to
tell me you were coming over and you knock on
my door, no, I would look what's up? What you're
doing here? Man? You didn't call me and say he
was coming up? Aaron Rodgers, he's never been that guy.
In last year, like it just felt like, okay, I'm

(01:23:20):
in New York, let me But what did it do? Ultimately?

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
Right, he got hurt. Nobody saw that coming at early.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
I called.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
I thought he'd be injured by week nine, but he
got hurt a lot earlier. But what did all that do?

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
All that posture and dude did nothing.

Speaker 7 (01:23:34):
It never had the opportunity to do anything, is the point?
Because he got injured four snaps into the year.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
I was out after the Darkness Retreat. Yeah, anybody who
intentionally puts themselves in what amounts of solitary confinement, I can't.
I can't. Yeah, I can't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
He's a weirdo. We all know this, but and look
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
I defended that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
I defended the Darkness Retreat and since then, I've I've
peeled back. Like the guy now he's he's he's a
great quarterback. Though that's the part that you can't deny.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
No, you can't deny that. But he's doing he's kind
of taking in an Antonio Brown shift. Now, he was
a great receiver, but once you know, we could see
the incoming, then the off the field stuff started to
show up a lot more.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
I don't know, like Aaron Rodgers and Antonio talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
I'm just talking about as far as just kind of
changing doing weird things. I'm talking about, not talking about
the actual actions. But you you just thought, you guys,
you just he's weird, right, Okay, so he's doing more
all right, this so he's doing more weird those stuff
off the field, and like Martin said him, retire wouldn't
be surprised what it would be for. And you joked
Trump's running mate. Okay, there we go. Here we here

(01:24:39):
we are, and please don't ever play that drop.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
On here again. That's what uh he said, the RFK
what you got, man, we're gonna switch up, all right.
I shouldn't say that we we we had a discussion
in the break just now since there's a difference now between.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
Patrick and I and our two producers in the game,
who you got, we see getting them fast, Pat because
Ian is giving different types of clues, So we proposed this,
Instead of doing one for the entire time, why not
have three? Okay, and if we get all three rapid fire,
then we get like, I don't know, a gold medal,

(01:25:17):
get two the silver won the bronze, and then if
we stuck on one for the entire five minutes, then
we should retire. I figured, we get all three, Ian shull,
have to like wash our car or something like something manual, yo,
and don't forget the spray the purple fabuloso on my seats.
I like the way that smells in my whip and said,

(01:25:38):
listen that if I can't do it on next gen,
I'm not doing it at all.

Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
If that's the deal, I'm gonna be bringing the most
obscure athletes you guys have never heard of, include some soccer.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
This week's athlete was a Romanian shot putter. Oh damn it,
Ian ray Gun.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
I should come with ray Gun one of these weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Well, now I can't, man, I'll be honest, you could,
I'll forget.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
I said, just never know when when it's coming.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Uh, speaking of never knowing what was coming on draft night,
If you told me that the second, I was a second.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
I don't phrase it that of the six quarterbacks that
were taken that bow Knicks would have been the leader
in the clubhouse to start out, non Caleb Williams division, right,
because we knew Caleb was starting as soon as they
traded away justin fields, right, So that's kind of was
a that was kind of a locked in right there.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
I think we can throw Daniels in there two as
we knew he started.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Do you think it was evident day one when they
took him, yes, because they didn't like they still had
at the time Sam Howell was on the roster. Yeah,
but I'm just in any event, though, that's not surprising
bow Knicks being like ahead of the other guys to
be starters. I think if you look up back on
draft night, this is a surprise too many. And I

(01:26:58):
think a lot of the reason why it was a
surprise and he had really had nothing to do with
the way that bow Nicks played in college. I personally
thought he'd be closer to a second round pick than
a first round pick.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
That's off his game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
I think the problem was people are looking like, yo,
we are on the twelfth pickup the draft, and of
the twelve, six of them have been quarterbacks. You mean
to tell me that the twelfth best player in this
draft is the sixth best quarterback in this draft. I
think that's the Lodges that a lot of people had
trouble squaring the circle around. I honestly still do, which
is why I mean, when he's drafted, guy, I ate

(01:27:31):
the stash and with the falcons, it kind of throws
the wrench in everything. But I said at the time VJ,
You'll remember this, I said, Sean Payton is really, really,
really pushed all his chips in, all eighty five million
dollars worth of dead cap money of chips in on
the banishing Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Pot right, he went all in on that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
And this is a guy he's got, like with five
more years of this, he's got a long contract. But
if this didn't work, you were gonna get another opportunity
to do it. Not because of how the owners in
Denver thing, but because of the way that the media
was going to act. Right, you remember when they benched
Russell Wilson initially, and every I mean you got across

(01:28:13):
the board.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Honestly, it felt like, except for everybody but me, was like,
how dare you treat Russell Wilson like this? How can
you possibly bench Russell Wilson? He did this, he won
a Super Bowl? He did He's Russell Wilson. You're gonna
put him on the bench. How can you yell at
him like you did in Detroit? Sean, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
If this works, It's gonna be a lot of revisionist
history with this. But at the time I said, it's like, look, dude,
you took Bownecks with this pick. You could have reset
you You were resetting your quarterback clock. Right now, it's
still a question of did Sean Payton have too much
dip on his chip, because if he does, this is

(01:28:57):
going to crash and burn. If he doesn't, he's going
to be insufferable with his victory laps as well.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
He should. Yeah, I liked the pick when it happened,
but it's it almost had a feeling to me of
we had to take a quarterback this year. My stance
is always this idea that teams can wait till next
That's not what we do. And if you're in the
top ten, or you're picking in the top twelve or
top thirteen, if you need a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
If the guy you have, you know, is not the
guy you're almost forced to take.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
These quarterbacks now, they six went in the top twelve
picks because it was Pindix right, and you saw what
Atlanta did there at eight, which I was one of
the few people who understood it. I understand a lot
of people didn't agree with it. But now people are
starting to kind of come off that bandwagon and go, no,
he's gonna play this year, you know what I'm saying,
because they don't think Kirk Cousins is gonna last the

(01:29:47):
whole season. And when you look at what he was
able to do Champagne that is with Drew Brees, Bonnicks
just kind of fits that type of stature, that type
of arm strength. He's got crazy experience. He played a
long time in college, and it's funny how sometimes that's
a knock. But I much rather have a quarterback that

(01:30:08):
played thirty five forty forty five games in college coming
into be my rookie quarterback than a kid that played
you know, twelve or thirteen. You know it's you look
at Anthony Richardson. Yeah, he's an enormous talent, but he
was also hurt and knocked out for the season. So
the book is still out on him, whether he's the
guy there in Indianapolis or not. I like this move,

(01:30:30):
but when you look into camp, there was no way
they could have started anybody else that was there. He
was there, and he was picked to be Sean Payton's guy.
Now we also learned that Sean Payne was trying to
move up to get JJ and that worked out good
for him because he's got them in Thiss. They decided
to do a whole repair. He's done for the year.
But him being named the first starter since rookie starter

(01:30:51):
since John Elway, I mean, hey, that's pretty a prest
Now you have to think about some of the quarterbacks
that they've taken, as Drew Locke as one that comes
to comes to mind.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
That and I never understood that draft pick.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
But I actually like this move. You name him the starter.
I'm you know me, Martin, I said, if you're drafted
in the first round, you start. The only team that
doesn't do it is the Packers. If you draft, if
I take a quarterback in the first round, you are
going to play that year or you are going to
start play that year. Ie Atlanta Falcons, because once again
a lot of people don't think Kris Cousins is gonna

(01:31:24):
last the whole season, or if he's even gonna come
back and be what he was. He could come back
and be terrible. If he's terrible, they're gonna put Pinis, Well,
they're gonna put be terrible. Then they shouldn't have signed
him to one hundred and eighty million dollars. Well, of
course not, but that'll be revision this history. Once again,
he come back and he plays well, the narrative changes.
Nobody will say that. But I don't mind this as well.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
They're gonna say, why did you draft the quarterback with
the eighth overall pick?

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Well, because he's still old. You're still thinking about the future.
He's still old. He could get hurt, he could play
great and still go down with an injury, and you
gotta and you have a capable rookie that you believe
in that you can throw in there. Well, it just
and then it goes back to why'd you if you
thought he was gonna get hurt, why did you pay him?

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
If you, well, teams and teams teams get desperate at
the quarterback position.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
It just was a bad move. Teams get desperate at
the quarterback position. But you if you think you if
you if you don't have one. See here's the thing, mark,
when you don't have one, you think irrationally sometimes when you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Don't have a quarter that's how important they are.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
When you don't have a quarterback, you're right, you will
go give him guaranteed money because what do you what
are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
What do you have?

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
Desmond Ritter was a miss. He was a complete miss.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
That makes sense if you like, let's say, for example,
they drafted Michael Pennis in the first round and then
drafted Spencer Rattler in the third round, right, that would
be that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
But they don't have a guy at all. They need
to get a guy, so we could run two guys in.
But when you spend forty five million dollars on a
quarterback that's supposed to be the guy that's your quarterback,
Like if I don't mind them, I don't mind him
preparing for the future, and I don't mind them instead
of double down in on a bad move, if Kirk
it was a bad move, I don't mind a franchise
saying Okay, we screwed that up, so let's let's try

(01:33:04):
to fix this now instead of trying to worry about
fixing it later.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
We did like this kid, so let's just go ahead
and take him.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
And if this guy doesn't last or and if he
lasts a season or two, guess what we got our replacement. Now,
we got our future. Now he's already there, He's already
locked in. So that's why I've always still with that pick.
But it's just it was just a bad process. There's
there's no two things. I don't see another argument for it.
But the question I was asking, is Sean Payton in
a success with bow Nick. Sure he's locked in right now.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
He was locked into whoever he was going to draft
in this draft, which was why I probably would have
passed on drafting a quarterback right here, right now, because
there because you're essentially the rest of your NFL career
if you're Sean Payton is tied into this pick, he's drafted.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
He's like he says, he baited the Vikings into drafting up.
It was a lot of talk on draft night. I
was active. What is a quote?

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
The exact quote goes, I was actively. I was actively
evolved and trying to pretend we were moving forward.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
So he's like, he's like, no, we got our guy
at twelve. He said it Draft night, he's saying it now.
All the reports out of Denver have been that bow
Knicks has been getting starters reps basically from preseason game
one and now he's been getting starters reps. So and
he'll be the starter week one. This to me is honestly,
it's more pressure to me than it is in Chicago.

(01:34:23):
It's more pressure because right now your coach is at
one year in is on the line right here, right
now because they're paying eighty five million dollars to not
have the other guy.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
Here over under Vegas got him five and a half wins. Well,
you got him over I like over. I think six
or seven wins. I think six or seven wins. Well
with Sean Payn, Listen, if there's a guy that can
do it, even not being the biggest fan of him
that I am as a football coach, I look at
them and said, if there's a guy that could do it,
it might be Sean Payne.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
I can do this with Bonis.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
I don't mind. Bow Knicks is a lot of people
for some reason knock the guy, and I'm like, hey,
give me a guy that has got a lot of
experience and a guy that basically just couldn't beat Washington
last year. That was really his last year. He just
couldn't beat Michael Pennison and Washington. But I think he
might be right on the over on the five and
a half. But I like the fact that he named
him the starter. Now let's get going, man, No, don't
try to bring in a vat or let naw, Let's

(01:35:14):
go with the rookie. Let's run down and see what
we got. Speaking of five, we saw what people call
a Peterman earlier today.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
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Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Vj's at Big Vanilla Husky, Big Vanilla Funny. I apologize
speaking of right here twenty five seconds in. Brian Alberts,
reading it immediately as I get it, said as as
a picture of Stephen A.

Speaker 4 (01:36:23):
Smith with a cowboy hat on, said, this will be
Martin Wise flexing after every Cowboys win this year in
deep playoff for him, Brian, I was on that team
last year, Pal I was. I was like, they got Dak,
they got to re sign them sometime this season. They
got CD they gotta get his deal done. Once they
get the deals done, everybody's gonna feel good. Michael Parsons

(01:36:46):
gets extended at the end of the season and then boom,
we got our triplet together. No, no, that's not what happened.
That's not what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
What ended up happening is they got ran through by
Aaron Jones and the Green Bay Packers, and Dak Prescott
start throwing the ball to the other time team. After
a year in which he had a great argument to
be the m v P and then led the league,
flucked it down to drink.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Completion percentage and touchdown passes.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
How about think about that quarterback led the league of
complete percentage in touchdown passes, wide receiver led the league
of receptions.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
How many playoff games it would Zeno, Dan will win
a games.

Speaker 9 (01:37:21):
This is the type of stuff that happens to me,
though I feel like it happens to me all the time.
I will pick a team to be successful, and then
if I just told you flat out right here, right now,
there's gonna be the same quarterback will lead in complete
the percentage and touchdown passes, and then on that team
would also be the leader in receptions.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
You would think that team would at least win a playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Game if I just told you that, Like if I
told you today that Patrick Mahomes led the league completetion
percentage of touchdown passes, and then they're gonna win a playoff.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
Rashi Rice or something led it in receptions.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
You know, you would think they're gonna win a playoff game,
like if Lamar if Lamar Jackson led the league in
completion percentage and touchdown passes and you you name it.
Rashan Bateman led the league guitarget like receptions. Same my
man saying Zame Flowers led the league of receptions. You
don't think they're gonna win a plafka.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
Not the Dallas Cowboys. I was on them heavy last year.
I had I think I had the Cowboys win the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
And see, I've been against them the last two years.
That's why I'm going opposite this year because I didn't
cash in the last two years. So it's like, all right,
don't triple down on the calls that you missed. Go ahead,
and you know they still have all those names you
just named. There's still really really really good players, really
good players. You have a surprise team this year, yet
you haven't given one yet. Do you have one that
you oh, that's your dark all time? But all over

(01:38:40):
the card I think the Cardinals have I think the
Cardinals will be a wild card representative.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
I'm leaning towards the com I like the Cardinal pick.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
That's not a bad one. Minnesota was mine, but JJ
went down, so I get a chance to reboot. Something
tells me, and I wouldn't high on coming out of
school and he had a great year. Something just tells me, Jayleen,
excuse me, Jayden Daniels is gonna hit the ground running.
And dan Quinn, you know, you know, Washington's defense is
gonna be good, so they're not gonna get just blown
off the field. They You're gonna have to fight the

(01:39:09):
score against them. But Jaydeen Daniels, man, from what I've
seen from him, he this kid might hit the ground running.
He really may.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
They They they might have a shot because the Giants
aren't gonna be good, and I think Philly's gonna be good.
But just I'm real talk, who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Really, you see the thing that said, just Jaydon Daniels
will hit the ground running, That's not the problem. The
problem is what happens after he runs and then hits
the ground. Yeah, but I do I think he'll be hopefully, yeah,
thank you, Mary. I hopefully he'll be smarter, and I
think he will be.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
But just his his ability and his talent at the
quarterback position, it just made me just kind of look
at them a little different, Like, man, this guy massive
officsive weapons there, if he if he's if he's as
good as I feel like what I've seen from what
I've seen in preseason, it is just pre sees it.
But you know there's plenty of college tape to put onto.
So I'll tell you this though, the Dallas Cowboys have

(01:40:06):
a quarterback problem. Cooper Rush.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Cooper rush Hey, Cooper Rush Hey, Hey, honey, take that
for sales signed down.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
We may not be leaving Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Coop's having a kegger did because after after look between
Dak Prescott, who is going to be a sixty million
dollar quarterback for another team next year? Yeah, unless something
happens in the next couple hours, you know it's gonna
be a six minion dollars garantee quarterback for somebody else.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
So you don't think Dallas is gonna pay him?

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
I think that if I think if it'll if this
thing goes so far to where Dak reaches actual free agency,
I thought, I think if I'm Dak, I'm not even.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
Staying I'm done. And it like you guys could have
You could have had me for fifty five a while ago. Pal,
Now you want me to no, no, no, I'm out.
He also to take that star off your helmet, man,
take all that extra like it matters, take all that
extra mess off for you somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Trey Lance might need to take all that extra mess
off of him and go play in that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
League that has the rude rules for the field goals
that go out the back of the end zone.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
The CFL five interceptions today.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Trey Lance was the last possible option, so like the
last feasible, reasonable option that the Cowboys could have to
get out of the Dak Prescott business sort of unscathed,
right if Trey Lancer came out this preseason and thrown
five touchdowns instead of five interceptions in these games, Because again,

(01:41:39):
as we talked about, the preseason doesn't lie.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
It's not actual real games.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
But these guys are still out there getting reps, and
the Cowboys have let Trey Lance get as much run.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
As possible this preseason.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Very true, and in this preseason thus far, he has
shown absolutely zero.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
That he's able to take over the job for Dak
Prescott if Dak Prescott got hurt or moved on to
a new team next year. That's what said.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
The Cowboys got a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
I know everybody's like, of course they do, Martin, but
this was the last straw. But this was the last
possible solution.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
This was the last possible coin that you could put
in the slot machine and maybe, you know, pull it
down and win. This was it because if you ended
up winning on Trey Lance, and you ended up finding
the guy in Trey Lanes that could come in and
run your offense effectively, then that's sixty million dollars for
Dak Prescott becomes much less of a necessity, right, it

(01:42:38):
becomes much less of a You clearly didn't want to
pay him the field.

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
That's why they traded for him, because we Mike McCarthy,
you know, I'm pretty sure Mike McCrow we talked about
this last year when it happened, I think Mike Winton,
you know Winton Jerry Jones and said, hey, it's not
gonna you know, cost us anything, but you know, let
me see what I could do with this kid, because
he was a top five draft pick.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
But it was actually reported that that McCarthy that it
was all it was a whole Jerry thing. McCarthy came out,
So that's right, you know, right, yeah, right, absolutely, Jerry,
that was still in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
Then that was proven to be.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
But did I say, I don't know if I believe
that or not, though I don't remember, but I get
I get what you're saying, and that's nor here North.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Jerry said, look, here's a quarterback, make him a good one.
Basically to Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
Man, it's uh, it could it could, man, I just
hate the hinges like a preseason performance. I get it.
It's five interceptions. But we just sat here and said
that the preseasons it's bad football. Nobody cares about it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
I didn't make me. VJ missed the football. I didn't
watch preseason this year, and it felt so good.

Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
I feel fine. I didn't die, I didn't pass out.
I didn't need to be rushed to the er over
at Carzer and Willing Hills. I'm I'm pretty okay. I
thought I could never live without watching as much preseason
football as I possibly can't.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
So you got it once again.

Speaker 4 (01:43:53):
I'm just a guy that he's had his chances and
whatever was going on there in San Francisco, just maybe
the kid camp and if the kid can't play, then.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
Yeah, this is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
It's five pre we are quickly approaching KCP territory.

Speaker 3 (01:44:10):
Case can't play. Ok that's what the kid can't play.
Do you do you think there's any shot left for
Trey Lance?

Speaker 7 (01:44:18):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
Okay, I I could be there with you. I could
think that we will be watching Trey Lance. Uh, let's
try uff cups. Wow, you might be in Uh might
get a flat FOOTBA league in battle. Oh I'll say this, Yeah,
Trey Lance, it might not be a bad idea to
go down there and play for the what is it
the UFL.

Speaker 7 (01:44:36):
Now you have the Louisiana Bootleggers seven under flag football team.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
It seems like I've watched more preseason football this year
than DJ has. I've seen uh spring legend Luis Perez
out there spinning it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
I think Adrian Martinez got signed to it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
Wasn't he the MVP in the championship game?

Speaker 4 (01:44:55):
He was MVP of the league and got benched in
the pro the playoffs? Remember, Okay, all right, but he
was the MVP of the league. Okay at any event. Yeah,
you know I didn't watch that league either, And you
know what, I was all game for it. I was
all I watched, like one one of the first games,
and dude, Lou, honestly, it's sixteen nine, it's thirteen like
it's it's it's not good football. It just isn't and

(01:45:16):
it's not gonna last. I know people think it. It
just won't because we don't. If it's not good, Americans
won't watch it. Even if it's just football, it won't.
That's why they have to keep redoing the league. And
that's why the XFL and UFL USFL joined because no
one was watching the leagues. It's the NFL, baby, that's
NFL and college that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Let's go ahead and kick it over to Steve de
Seger for everything trending in the world of sports.

Speaker 8 (01:45:38):
Hey, Steve, Speaking of kick it and spring leagues, it
was Dallas's own kicker where they found in a spring
league USFL a couple of seasons. Brandon Aubrey. He's been sensational,
absolutely sensational. And yes, Adrian Martinez did play quarterback for
the Jets tonight. They're under thirty seconds to go and
the Jets lead ten to six over the Giants. Tommy

(01:45:59):
DeVito going the whole way for the Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
And Timmy devitoy I told him not to move out
of his mama's basement, and I hope he took that advice.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
Hicking Nasa Palma jam.

Speaker 8 (01:46:09):
The Lake Cavens at Seattle Seahawks seven to nothing late
first quarter against Cleveland on a touchdown pass from Gino
Smith twenty one yards to DK Metcalf. Browns quarterback Deshaun
Watson out Tonight still hasn't played in a game since
last November shoulder surgery. By the way, Jets starters and
Aaron Rodgers were not playing in that Jets game, which
was about to finish. The Chargers win at Dallas was

(01:46:31):
twenty six to nineteen Trey Lance for the Cowboys one touchdown, pass,
five interceptions. He had eleven carries ninety yards, including a
forty six yard TV We saw it all day when
the play breaks down. His talent is on display. As
far as calling an actual NFL in the pocket, let's
move and go down the field type of quarterback. No,

(01:46:52):
not yet, and yet again they threw pass after pass
with this game. It was almost fifty pass attempts in
a preseason game for this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
Tonight, he threw five picks.

Speaker 8 (01:47:02):
Five picks. Yeah, the team had five hundred and fifty
eight yards of offense. I mentioned last hour. The time
of possession advantage was forty one minutes to nineteen, but
the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
Won the game.

Speaker 8 (01:47:12):
Carolina a winner at Buffalo thirty one to twenty six.
Panthers kicker Eddie Pinero left with a hamstring injury. Bryce
Young six of eight passing seventy yards and a touchdown.
NFL clubs have to reduce their rosters to fifty three
players by Tuesday. This is the final week of the
preseason three games. On Sunday, Denver is not due to
play a quarterback. Bownicks against the Cardinals Jarrett Stidham would

(01:47:35):
start with Zach Wilson getting most of the work. College
football opener in Dublin again this year, and Georgia Tech
wins on a forty four yard field goal on the
final play twenty four to twenty one over Florida State,
which was preseason number ten. The game winning field goal
came right after a twelve yard pass on third and
seventeen to set them up at Nevada minute to go

(01:47:57):
third quarter, Wolfpack twenty four to thirteen overs SMU the
Lake game in about an hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Hawaii will host.

Speaker 8 (01:48:03):
Delaware State Earlier on FS one, Montana State was a
comeback winner at New Mexico thirty five thirty one. Montana
State had trailed seventeen to nothing early second quarter. Eventually
three touchdowns in the fourth quarter did the trick. There
were two WNBA games tonight. Minnesota defeated Indiana ninety to
eighty Caitlin Clark twenty three points, eight assists, seven turnovers.

(01:48:26):
Connecticut won at New York seventy two sixty four. NASCAR's
four hundred is at Daytona tonight. There in the last
ten laps, Austin Sindrick has taken the lead, Josh Berry
currently running second, Kyle Busch up to third. To Major
League Baseball, there are two late games at Dodger Stadium.
It is now, believe it or not, a Dodger lead
of six ' five because Shohei Otani has just homered.

(01:48:50):
He had the game winning grand Slam in the bottom
of the ninth last night. He's just hit this one out,
so that's home run number forty one to go with
his forty steals. No player in Major League history has
had forty five homers and forty five steals in the
same season. He's getting closer. He leads to the National

(01:49:10):
League in home runs at the moment, so despite a
poor start from Clayton Kershaw, the Dodgers lead the race
six ' five in the bottom of the fifth, and
the Mets lead six to one at the Padres top
of the eighth. Francisco Lindor, as a left handed batter,
hit a Grand Slam. Francisco Lindor, as a right handed batter,
has just hit a solo homer.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
Back to you, Steve, I won't to ask you this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
I'm gonna hijack my own show because I wanted to
talk about this in the forty five, but you're here
now and I know you got stuff to do a
forty five and Vijo wants your opinion as well, of course.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
So Otani hits the home run last night Grand Slam,
Dodgers walk off, the ball falls back onto the field.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
Ah yeah, and Jose Sheer throws the ball back up
into the stay in the outfielder the outfielder for the
other team, and people are giving him all types of
like it seems like he's catching.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Blame too much.

Speaker 8 (01:50:01):
Yeah, he's worried about the game they just lost. On
the field what's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
What does Hose Sheer care that he's forty forty? Yeah,
he's mad, that he's Hoday series mad. He's all in
one today.

Speaker 7 (01:50:12):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:50:12):
Everybody's saying, hey, but you could make money. Okay, minimum
wage is like six hundred thousand dollars in the Major League,
So it doesn't matter if you've never heard of Jose
air Seri. I think he's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:50:22):
Oh yeah, I'm not worried if he's baseball, especially on
the top level, unconcerned with his retirement plan.

Speaker 8 (01:50:29):
The guy I feel bad about is because the Dodger
Stadium configuration these days in part of the life that
had a lot of reconstruction. In recent years, they've really
poured a lot of money back into the old ballpark,
which opened in the early sixties. They have what are
called home run seats. They took the first two rows
right at the outfield wall and made them private, so

(01:50:52):
they're a lot more expensive and you have a lot
better chance of catching a home run ball if you
were sitting in one of the quote home runs, Well,
there was a guy who brought his glove and was
standing there with that grand Slam coming right at him
to end the game. Last night. He put up his
glove and the guy next to him with bare hands

(01:51:13):
bumped him going for the ball, and the ball was
not caught by the guy with the glove, and that's
why it bounced back onto the field. That fan is
who I feel bad about. By the way, if you
want to get a ball, there was a guy in
Oakland last night, because you know, even a big crowd
last night was still only fourteen thousand people. He brought
his glove, caught three foul balls in the course.

Speaker 4 (01:51:35):
Of the game. Good. What if you're a minor league infield.

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
Like you know, you're a little too old.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
They got cut from the Triple A team or whatever
or Double A team and you go out to Oakland
and try to right here, I gonna make enough plays
to where I can get another look.

Speaker 8 (01:51:55):
Do you know in the it's about him for the
next month or so. Those Savannah been games the baseball
it's like the Harlem Globe Trotters of baseball. It's it's
a ballgame, but it's for entertainment. One of the rules
they have in their game, it's not only a two
hour clock. The game will end in two hours, so
sometimes they hurry up. But any foul ball that's caught

(01:52:16):
by a fan. The batter's automatically out, so when the
ball's in the air, people are actually looking around like
is somebody around me going to actually catch it? It
will affect the game.

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
That's crazy, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
It is crazy and entertaining, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
I just can't imagine having just lost on a Grand
Slam walk off and being concerned with the guy who
hit the home run.

Speaker 4 (01:52:38):
No, not in the least at all.

Speaker 8 (01:52:41):
And I think, you know, some people want the ball
because they'll be able to trade it and get to
meeto tany or get a sign.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
Bet.

Speaker 8 (01:52:48):
I think a major leaguer can probably get some of
that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
Yeah, just go knock on the door the clubhouse, Just
go walk around this trade his stuff all the time.

Speaker 8 (01:53:01):
If he picked up the ball and threw it back
into a crowd, he's throwing it likely to a Dodgers fan.
So what's the problem here.

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
Yeah, it seemed like much ado about. You know, just
had so much weird stuff going on. And and you
talk about these home run balls too. Man, It's like,
you don't you hit it out of the park. Okay,
I'm not giving it back, and I don't want those signs.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
You can't expect it back. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
It's like but even when teams like do stuff, ste
like what they gave her a bunch of swag and
a bunch of signs back and what what? No, we're
talking mucho dinetto you know what, this is probably worth.
Make me an offer. Have your people call my people. Yeah,
we'll talk.

Speaker 8 (01:53:40):
The ultimate is when people got those Mark McGuire home
run balls. Yeah, and then twenty five years or so,
but those were on auction.

Speaker 4 (01:53:48):
For all the Barry Bonds that went to McCovey cove
all those guys. Remember how that water used to look
where it was so many canoes and stuff out there.

Speaker 8 (01:53:57):
You couldn't San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
You couldn't see water.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
It was it was just couldn't. It was just like
a concrete walkway of canoes when Barry Bonds was on
that chase. Man, I'll tell you what. You can give
me some swag. As long as the swag is what
about eight inches long, five inches wide, with Benjamin Franklin's
face on it. You we can get busy you okay,
all right? I was about to say, hold up, you

(01:54:21):
would take swag over bred? No way, keep your jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
I could buy a damn jersey, okay, and I don't
need it signed. But this ball right here, number sixty
one sixty now this is mine. Make me an offer
as simple as that. He I know you deferred your contract,
but I'm not deferring my money. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:54:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:54:42):
By the way, it's not who's demanding anything?

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
Yeah no, no, no, oh yeah, it just came up
like what happened to the ball there? He can't demand
nothing anyway, he should. He got a chill.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
It wasn't was it a ball? It was definitely Dodger
Stadium where they had a moment. Let me not talk
out of turn.

Speaker 8 (01:54:58):
No, it was a Dodger stadium. There was a home
run ball where the people got ushered out and very
much pressured by Dodger security. I don't remember who hit it, Like,
we'll give you the trade you for an autograph, No,
we'll trade you.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Wasn't it a lady? Yes exactly?

Speaker 8 (01:55:14):
And then they separated the lady from her husband, so
they negotiate just against her.

Speaker 3 (01:55:19):
Yeah, it really rubbed me the wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
Danny G.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
I believe for Covino Rich got got her on exactly,
They got her on yeah, I think they traded.

Speaker 7 (01:55:27):
They traded like dodgered stuff, and like I think they
ended up giving them the ball or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
I remember.

Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
I remember no, Like it's like you said, they separated
it from her husband and because he knew what was up,
she did it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
She's just like, oh, it's just a ball. It wasn't
It's like.

Speaker 4 (01:55:44):
Ball.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
But she didn't so it wasn't him doing it. It
was security exactly. Yeah, it was the security because over
the line, in my opinion, but why do you need
the ball?

Speaker 4 (01:55:51):
I you the Dodgers, like, what do you need it for?

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
You don't thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:55:57):
That's that's you like it.

Speaker 8 (01:55:59):
It would be a plus bonus. It'd be gravy. But
you know, I do see the Dodgers able to sell
like balls, used balls from other ballgames, along with used
bats and things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:13):
At the club level, I catch that boy authenticated www.
Dot eBay dot com. That's where i'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
That's where I would pawn stars, you name it. Coming
up next, who's the Bruce Lee at BS well.

Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
Answer that question on Fox Sports Radio Martin Wis's VJ
Husky Martin Wiss V The Husky coming.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
To you a lot from the tirack dot com studios.
All Right, VJ, do it like Dion upset with the
reporter in a press conference. All right, shortly after the
show hour.

Speaker 4 (01:56:46):
Oh Man podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:56:47):
Next, we'll do it like Albert Breer.

Speaker 4 (01:56:49):
Next.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
If you missed any of today's show, be sure to
check out though. And he just wasn't nice on the podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:56:55):
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This also follow rate and Minian accent Dominican accent. Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
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after we get off the air.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
The Bruce leya BS, Yeah, what did you talk about?
This is interesting that position.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
Dion Planet prime kool aid, the Dion kool aid that's
on the list.

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
Circus. Apparently if you write things like this, it will
get you banned from the University of Colorado's football programs.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
Media pool.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
Is Sean Keeler, Denver Post columnist. He asked the question,
and Dion said, you don't like us? Why do you
do this to yourself? I'm serious, why do you do this?
You know you don't like us, Like, why do you
do this, and then he was like, wait, what are
you talking about? Can ask a football question? Dion said,
I don't know why you and engage with people that

(01:58:01):
you don't like.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
He's got a point.

Speaker 2 (01:58:05):
No he doesn't, Actually he does, but ahead no he doesn't.
As a member of the media, you are not obligated
to like or dislike. You really shouldn't have a feeling
at all about the person that you're asking these questions to.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
It should be about what's actually happening.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
So like, imagine if you didn't like the presidential candidate,
whichever one, and all of a sudden you're just supposed
to not ask questions as a as a political journalist.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
No, that's ridiculous. I will say this, though, I do
believe we do live in a society where there are
some and Ian I know you have a great take
on this, man, jump jump in on this before we
wrap this up.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
But there are some people in the media.

Speaker 4 (01:58:44):
Being in these press conferences now you can feel the
entitlement are kind of the smugness and arrogance from certain
people that do believe you know, you owe me an answer,
You owe me an answer because you're on that side
of the table and I'm on the side. It is there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
It is your job in that position to talk to
the media, so you owe me an answer. The perfectly
acceptable answer is no common no comment. Yeah, it's a
perfectly acceptable answer. But this whole dress, why are you
doing this if you don't even like me?

Speaker 7 (01:59:15):
It's silly to me, mean, yeah, I mean I to me,
it's just weird that he he can't just act like
most coaches would, and just not every other coach exactly,
just not respond, just kind of give him a nothing
answer like Belichick would.

Speaker 4 (01:59:32):
Has Dion Sanders ever just gave us nothing. That's not
who he is. And as I said earlier, he ain't
gonna change.

Speaker 7 (01:59:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:59:42):
I've seen Dion enough.

Speaker 4 (01:59:44):
I've seen him his entire career from Florida State to
walking in with thirty gold chains on being drafted by
the Atlanta Falcons with a four finger ring on. That's
old school for you. And I know you don't know
about the four finger chunk ring on a cell phone,
so back then cell phones were crazy expense when they
were big as hell.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
This is who Prime is, man.

Speaker 4 (02:00:03):
That's why it doesn't bother me, because he's he's not
You're right, he's not gonna just give.

Speaker 3 (02:00:08):
A no comment, because he's never given a no comment.

Speaker 4 (02:00:11):
This is the same man that doubts the reporter with
a cooler water and ice playing for the Braves because
he knocked Dion for trying to play.

Speaker 3 (02:00:18):
Both a football. This is the same This is the
same guy. So he's got thirty years ago. It doesn't
matter when it was.

Speaker 4 (02:00:24):
It does, silly me. I've grown up a little bit
over the last twenty years. I'm not still I'm sure
you want to do it. I'm sure you want to
do it now. But his attitude towards the media has
not changed.

Speaker 7 (02:00:36):
Okay, but the way he preaches to all of his
players that they need to be high character individuals and
take accountability and stuff, and then you don't do it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
It's just too much. Jason Martin Artare is up next.

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