Andy Furman and Bucky Brooks talk College Football Week 0, NFL Season Preview, Baseball Hall of Fame, and So Much More!

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howai you, JF How you doing man?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
My brother? I am good. I feel it. You know.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
The Fellas starts at five am on Saturday, so extra
hour makes a big difference.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Six am feels like child's play. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, I'm with you right there. What's going on with you?
What's new in your life now?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Just living the dream man?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Just getting ready for a football season right like it's
been a summer of hibernation, I think for everybody, and
you know, for my my other job at yat who
Sports for the summer, they let me do a little
bit of Olympic fun, but mostly it's just been kind
of chilling.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
So I'm ready, like yesterday was just injected yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
In my veins because we're now at that spot where
every single weekend this is the most important thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Like I'm pretty not smart.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
So now I don't have to think for the next
several months on Saturdays, on Sundays, on Mondays, I don't
have to worry what's on TV?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
What am I gonna watch today? Like the answer is there.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
It felt good yesterday to see meaningful college football games
and to see absolute chaos and to lose money, like
all of these things felt right yesterday. It felt like
a normal weekend in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
My friend, let me run this by because this is
all I hear on talk shows. I go to the pub,
I hear guys talking about that. My buddies said, carre
wait for football, OK, wait for I don't hear any
other sport where people are so waiting and anticipation for,
Like they don't do it for baseball. Maybe you know
pitches and catches report obviously in March they go a
little crazy there. NBA they don't do it, NHL, never, MLS.

(01:53):
I don't think so you know, but football why I
don't get it. I mean, it never used to be
that way, So I can't wait. I can't football is ye,
I can't wait. I mean, and then when the preseason comes,
I never watched it. I can't stand preseason. Tell me
why I love it. I love little sports, but I
don't go above and beyond where they go nuts over football.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Tell me.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
See, this is a simple answer, and it's because, you know,
like not having it for so long makes the heart
grow found it right, like whatever that phrase is.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
If you are a let's say Nebraska or you're a
Florida State fan, the last meaningful football game you saw
for your program that you really cared about was the
end of November. So you've had to wait from the
end of November to now to get something that you
can actually get excited about. That is a long break.
We're not talking about Major League Baseball. It feels like

(02:43):
the wrap around just runs faster because you go straight
from September to you know, pitchers of reporting when it's
still cold in March, right, Like, we've waited so long
the NHL. I'm a big hockey guy, and while you
wait the NHL, you're waiting what three months, the NBA,
you're waiting two or three months. Half the time between
meaningful game for college football. In the NFL, the wait
is so long. Everybody knows. I'm a die hard Raiders fan.

(03:05):
I haven't seen a game that matters for my beloved
Raiders since January. That's nine months of just sitting around
thinking about what's gonna happen. That no other sport is
able to make us want it that bad, because no
other sport makes us miss it that much, because no
other sport is willing to not.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Play games for as long.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
So you know, yeah, we're obsessed with the draft and
we're obsessed with free agency. But when we're talking about
like the rush you get from watching a broadcast where
your favorite team runs out of the tunnel.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
If you're a.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Tennessee Volunteers fan, the rush you get from watching the
tee before games.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
You haven't seen that in so long.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
It just hits different because of that moment of having
to wait for it.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, I think the key is less is more. Baseball
one hundred and sixty two games, NBA eighty two games.
You know, college football maybe fourteen games, whatever it may
be and you know in the NFL, and I do
believe the more they expand, it's going to be diluted
to some extent. Not the talent, but I think the
interest might be. And gambling a big deal, a big
part of it, you know, fantasy football, but you know

(04:07):
it's perfect. The NFL is perfect. They're crescendos all the
way to Sunday or maybe even Monday night, whatever it
may be. You're right, less is more, and the gambling aspect,
that's the key. I think the demos. I mean a
lot of women love football. The gambling thing that finished.
I'll go to a football game, I'll sit in the
stands and I hear people rooting for the opposite team.
I live in the Cincinni market, so I'll watch the

(04:28):
Bengals play, but they're rooting for the team that the
Bengals are playing.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Why.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I once asked them, Well, I got that player in
my fantasy league, all right, So it's a big deal
and you get to know the players a lot better.
If baseball can hook up with something like that, they
may be better off. But again, I think the demos
and baseball a little too high. You look at two
sports that are really once dominated dominated this country. Boxing
and baseball. They're forgotten right now, demos are too high.

(04:53):
People don't care anymore.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, well you're right about boxing particularly, which is interesting
because you want to talk about absence makes a heart
gerson the fonder, Like, that's absolutely It's not like if
you look at boxing, it's not like guys are doing
you know, they're they're not boxing every month, right.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
It is interesting to me because I'll go back to.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Look, when I was a kid, I was a massive
eighties wrestling fan, right, And when I was a kid
as a massive eighties wrestling fan, there was so much
significance to me to WrestleMania because it was the one
time of year, like the rest of the year. If
you watched every Saturday like I did, when you were
watching your Saturday morning cartoons. If you watch, you know,
Macho Man every Saturday, you didn't really see Macho Man wrestling.

(05:32):
You're only gonna see Macho Man in Hulk at the
Big they were gonna make an appearance, but they only
really wrestled at WrestleMania. And then they added Summer Slam,
and all of a sudden you had two big events.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You're like Okay, I can live with that.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Now sometimes it is Frankly, it's harder for me to
get into it now because there's a pay per view
every sixty days and every I got to keep up
with him way more. The guys are more accessible and
they're they're in the ring more often, and I just
I don't find that to be as appealing. I think
that's when at UFC the same way, like I used to,
he fights in Vegas years ago, and now I find
myself like trying to keep up with the UFC three thousand,

(06:05):
seven hundred and forty two, and it's just like it's
just too much. Like you just have to sometimes you
got to pull back from all of this and just
you have to force people to realize that they need
your product, and if you give it to them every single.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Day, I don't know that you can do that.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
You're exactly right.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
And let's go back to yesterday, because I know you
were glued in front of the two of Florida State,
Georgia Tech and Ireland and the way it ended. Let's
take a listen how that game ended. If we can,
it's go to Ireland, go to Dublin. Can we do that? Yeah,

(06:56):
we got, courtesy to Georgia Tech Radio Network, that was
Aiden Burr with a forty four yar field goal to
win a twenty four to twenty one over Florida State.
And the one thing that bothers me more than anything else,
And maybe I'm just too picky on this, they say
it was an upset. Look, they say Florida State was
right number ten. I don't know how you could right
a team before they even play, you know, when the

(07:16):
season really, when the season is said and done, we
get to around Thanksgiving, Florida State may not even be
in a top ten or the top twenty five. So
you know, they claim it's an upset. It was a
great win. It was a great game. Now, last year
when No. Jer Dame went to Dublin, you know they rolled,
They rolled last year and it wasn't even once of
a ballgame. And I'm saying to myself, you know, why
did they pick Georgia Tech of Florida State?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
You know, a bitch game was really a nail bier.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
And again I say, the only teams that really should
go to Island I think is No Ja Dame.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
But they had a hell of a crowd.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, I mean look, I like, I found myself being
a hypocrite yesterday because I hate the International Series in
the NFL drastically.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I don't like the thought of a team losing a
home game.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
I don't like the thought of a team trying to
figure out in an arty, expensive league how to go
over to Germany to watch, you know, their favorite team play.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I hate everything about it. But then yesterday I sat there,
I thought, man, I love this Dublin thing.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
I think part of it was because it's week zero,
you know, so it's a way to kick off the season.
So you don't know if your team stinks yet, you
don't know if your team's any good yet.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
It's just fun to see it.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
So I understand why people want to find that as
a reason to go to Dublin.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Great city.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
I've been there a bunch in my life, and you know,
it's a great place to go hang out and party
and watch your favorite football team.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I see all of that. I'm with you, though, there
are certain things that are simple.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Notre Dame having a game in Dublin every year seems
really simple, or every five years, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know, if you're in the spot.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
But as I think, rees Davis said yesterday one hundred
and eighty million euros were brought into the city around
this game. That's just how much money was coming in
from people traveling everywhere.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
So at the root of it all, they're gonna do
whatever works.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
And if you put big fan bases over there constantly,
teams are gonna fans are going to want to go
over there, They're gonna want to hang out. So you know,
follow the money, follow the reasoning behind it.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I guess no.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Look Week zero, okay, first game, and here's the question
I have, and maybe you got the answer, because I
don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I really don't.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
There's no preseason in college. They go out there and play,
and you know, you could claim that maybe, like you know,
a Delaware State Hawaii is like a preseason for the
Hawaii Rainbows.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't know. So why is the preseason in the NFL?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Obviously, you know, I was taught this way back when
if you ever have a question about anything, you know,
revert back to the Mulah, to the Greenbacks, to money,
to the guilt.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
It's always about money.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
And maybe that's why the NFL does preseason because there's
money involved. But there's no preseason truly in the NFL
and college. Yeah, I mean in the college ranks, and
they go right into it and they play. I don't
get it, and there's injuries and the regulars never play. Anyway,
this thought is, never play in preseason in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think one of the interesting things is that argument
against the preseason is drastically different today in college football
than it was two years ago. Because if your argument was,
and it was for many people, hey, we don't want
to expose kids to more games, that's not fair. Well,
they told you right out of the gate with the
college football playoff. Remember you know, if you don't get
a first round by in the playoff, you're going to
play as many as four extra games if you go

(10:09):
to the championship game, if you happen to play in
the conference championship game. Also, like, it's just we're at
this point, they're playing in the NFL season. So I
think you're right, honestly. And one of the reasons why
the best I do is dabble week zero. Like I'm
not not quite a degenerate gambler, but I do love
to put money on college football and Week zero week
one man. I am at the very least, I suddenly

(10:31):
become a pizza beat guy and every single thing. It's like, yeah,
I'll put a slice of pizza on this game, but
I ain't putting anything in real consequence because we don't
know anything about these teams. And when you talk to people,
they'll say, well, you can go back and watch the
spring practices, blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Spring practice does not emulate anything.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
And you know how many years have we seen dj
ueyunglulay the quarterback that's getting his It feels like eighteenth chance.
Yesterday with Florida State looked like dj ueyungl lula has
looked like. But in spring, everybody's like, no, no, no,
he's finally got to figure it out. You know, this
is good to be different. So I do think to
your point that preseason would probably help some of these teams.
But the other side of the argument is, look at

(11:07):
what college football playoff expansion is done. If you're Florida
State and you lose this game a year ago, you're done,
you're cooked, you're over. If you're Florida State, now, just
remember all they have to do is win the ACC.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
A bad ACC they could lose four games, win.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
A bad acc and not only do they still guarantee
make the playoffs, they guarantee get a home game and
guarantee get a first round by So all hope is
not lost for Florida State now, which is a wild
takeaway from watching them just implode yesterday against the team
they should have beaten.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
You know, I think that's a good thing, you know,
And look, obviously, if you win your conference, you get
an automatic bid. You could lose three games, four games,
as you mentioned, easily and still go in. I think
that's great.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know when they had the four team playoffs, you
always had that fifteen pressing its nose against the glass,
saying should they shouldn't they? And the arguments will will continue.
I don't think you're going to get that with the
thirteenth team. I just don't think you're going to get
that now. And I think it's great. I mean, it's
the wide open thing is like the wild West. It's
like nil. Really, everything's everything's good. Everybody's got a shot

(12:06):
right now. And I like that, you know, the more
the better. So you know, let them play, because right now,
if you had a team that lost the first game
of the year, there was zero game. I mean, there's
a good chance like this season's over and that's destimalizing
it really is, so that it's an interest.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I love it. Yeah, I love it too.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
And for anyone that says it devalues the regular season,
I would say it devalues ten or fifteen games out
of the regular season. Sure, but it adds value to
seventy five percent of the rest of the games because
now in November, suddenly you're going to be watching. It
doesn't matter if your team's lost a couple of games,
you're gonna be watching because you don't know what they
can do.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I mean not for nothing.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
If we want to sit here and talk about the
fact that these are college kids, I don't think that
all hopes should be lost for every kid that's out
there playing for the love of the game in college,
even if they are playing for some money. I don't
think hope should be lost because they lost a week
zero game in Dublin. Like, let's not eliminate their opportunity
to continue to do the thing that they love sim
but because they lost one game, that's tougher than the
NFL metric College football college kids should not be held

(13:04):
to a tougher metric than the pros they're trying to
get to. That just doesn't make any sense. So I'm
with you. I love everything about the change. It just
hit me yesterday that, you know, I had a group
thread with some buddies and you know, they were texting
how long until Norvella is on the hot seat again?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
And oh gee, he's not.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
He's not because the real answer is all he has
to do is make the playoffs, and making the playoffs
in the ACC is going to be much simpler than
it is. And say the SEC are the Big ten.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
You know what's gonna do. It's gonna save coaches jobs.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
It really will, because in years past a coach would
never get fired. Try really, if he made a bowl
game and you could win, like you know, go seven
and six, six and five to six is the magic
number you go to a bowl game.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Very embarrassing to fire a coach if he makes a
bowl game.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Now, if you make the postseason, make the tournament, you're
not gonna get fired. So there's twelve coaches right now
that are pretty safe with their jobs right now, even
if they lose three or four games, if they go
to the playoffs, They're not gonna get fired.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
So it's a safety valve, it really is.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, Well, think about the NFL comp like, how often
do coaches get fired that make the Wildcard, and that
it just doesn't happen very often, right, you know, I know,
I know there's the Marty Schottenheimers of the world. That's
a good example. But for the most part, coaches that
make the Wildcard, if you make the playoffs, you're gonna
you're gonna be safe. I do think it becomes interesting
long term if you're a school like Penn State that's

(14:24):
paying James Franklin a lot of money, and all of
a sudden, you know you're in a big ten that now,
even if you're very good, you might be the fourth
best team in your own conference and you might barely
be making the playoffs. How that fan base adjusts to
the new reality of not being the dominant team in
that conference, are one of the main dominant teams in
that conference, How they adjust to simply being a playoff team.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
That'll be interesting to see.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
But I do think that's a new reality and by
the way, more stability with coaches staying in a place.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I don't think it's ever a bad thing.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
I agree with you theah, you know, build up a
program like that. It's good.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I like it, I really do. Everything is good. And
we here because right now is the beginning of a
new sie. It's not full it's football. It's not full season.
It's the football season. Right forget about September twenty first
for fall. It's right now. It's football.

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Fitz right now. And let's talk about reps in practice
in football, all right, if we can. And the next
time I'd have to go to a football practice will
be my first because I never played football except two
hand touch in the streets of Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
That's when I played, all right now.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
The only sport in my heart of hearts, so that
really needs practice, I think is boxing boxes need to
have a sparring product before they go into the ring.
Before about other than that, there's no reason I don't
think for a guy to go on the field and
risk injury in preseason. And I bring that up because
they made a big deal about Aaron Rodgers not playing
a preseason this year for the Jets. It's no biggie,

(17:42):
it's forty years old. He knows what he's doing. He
doesn't need it.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
I don't disagree that he doesn't need the preseason as
long as he gets the practice, you know. Like that's
the thing that I think we have to remember as
a society is that more is accomplished in a practice
then will ever be accomplished in a preseason game. And
joint practice is particularly when teams do, those give people
far more opportunity to actually see what they're looking up
for and jiving together. This is the thing that to me,

(18:08):
like I do think reps matter, they just don't matter
in preseason games. Like I'll go back to my music days,
right when we would finally get some time off, you know,
when we were touring three hundred days a year with
the band. When we would come into rehearsals at the
beginning of the year, everybody was different.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Some people wanted to get away from it completely.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
I was one that just felt like if I didn't
play at all for a month, I was probably going
to be rusty when we came back. And so those
first couple of rehearsals, even though you've been playing together
for years, things just weren't very tight. Like the band
wasn't very good. We had to work through all of
that because he took a little time off. I think
there's something to practice, but there's nothing to a preseason game.
Preseason games are wildly meaningless in every possible boy, the

(18:46):
vanilla defenses that are played, the guys that are playing
in which you don't want in a preseason game. Frankly,
you don't want some kids that's fighting for his life
trying to make a roster because one thing you talk
to anybody that played the game, they'll tell you when
you were trying to fight for a roster, one of
the things they tell you you gotta pop on tape.
You gotta show up every day on tape. You got
to make people say wow when they review, when they

(19:06):
review the game footage. You don't want that guy that's
a you know, fringe roster guy showing up on tape
because he absolutely murders somebody's quarterback, right Like, that's just
not effective for anybody in any way. So I don't
think preseason needs to exist. I think joint practices need
to exist. If I ran in the NFL, frankly, I
would start televising joint practices. I would stop televising preseason games.

(19:26):
But owners never want to lose those home home tickets
they sell.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
I get that, but well, I take a charge.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Way if take a charge for those joint practices, they
would if they could charge or sell tickets for it,
they would, sure.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
I mean, And I just don't think anybody that thinks
Aaron Rodgers is going to suddenly have a worse season
because he didn't play a preseason game. I think they've
lost their minds. Even if it takes the first quarter
of a season to get to to get a little
of the rust off in that situation, that's worth it
to mitigate the risk of playing in a meaningless preseason game.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
And a funny thing is go about to Aaron Rodgers
for a second Last year he played two series in
the final preseason game, though this year didn't play at
all again the Giants last night.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
So I asked the question who made that call?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
So Robert Seller, the coach of the Jets, that he
changed his approach, and I said to myself, you know,
and he said that to the media, and I wish
I was in that media room. What wean, what's your approach?
What was the change? He never mentioned what the change
of approaches? And I got to believe management told him
to say, you better Dan not play Aaron Rodgers in
that game because he's our season.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
But he wouldn't say that.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I think Robert Seller and when they talk about coaches
on hot seats right now, they always claim point finger
to Dallas.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I think Sala is the one who's kind of got
the most heat under his rear end right now.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Do you agree on that?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I really do, because I think that it's all about
Aaron Rodgers. No, he doesn't play. Sala's out and everybody's gone.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, I think Sala's got more more heat on his
seat than McCarthy. I'm not sure Sirianni isn't the one
that comes in if that Eagles team looks bad the
first half of the season. But I will say this
about the entire process for the Jets. The next time
that organize handles tremendous chaos well will be the first
time that that organization has handled tremendous chaos well. So

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why am I supposed to believe there? And look, I'll
apply this universally to Aaron Rodgers and to Frankly kirk Cousins.
I don't trust three hundred and seventy two year old
quarterbacks coming off an achilles injury. I just don't, so
I think it's fair to say, hey, i'd like to
see what that chain looks like. When you talk about
weight and balance and the way guys throw the ball
and what it means for their achilles, I just think
there's a lot to it. So I would love for

(21:27):
Aaron Rodgers to come in and be available all season,
because I think that's more interesting and it gives us
more stories.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
To talk about.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
But I just have a hard time, and I know
Jets fans will at me as they did last year.
Jets fans last year, I have plenty to say about
not trusting that Aaron Rodgers was going to just step in.
I didn't love some of the roster moves they made,
and Jets fans came at me the entire summer, telling
me I was a moron, and then disappeared once the
team didn't have a quarterback anymore.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I would say this to Jets fans, like this is
just universal.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
When your quarterback is forty years old and you've tried
to fix it by putting guys that are possibly injury prone.
To say that politely in front of him on an
offensive line that you know still may or may not
be great.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Like I think it's fair to step back and say
I have real questions about the Jets this season, and
if the Jets aren't great, then sala is going to
have to hear noise every single week.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
If Aaron Rodgers just.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Comes back and plays like a pretty good quarterback, then
Robert sala is gonna have to answer questions about it
every week. Like the opportunity for chaos for the Jets
is bigger than it is for any franchise, and I
do think that that becomes a distraction.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
No doubt about that. The New York media doesn't help either.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
But this guy, Robert Sala three years, he's eighteen and
thirty three as a head coach. I mean, that doesn't
cut it in New York. The only saving grace is
the fact that they haven't won so long. I think
people are getting used to not winning. But go back
to Atlanta for a second. You talk about Kirk Cousins. Yeah,
he's coming off that injury, but at least they have
a backup. They have some guy who's going to be
maybe that quarterback of the future of Michael Pennix junior.

(22:51):
You know, I don't know what the Jets have. I mean,
the Jets have what Tarad Taylor, who's been a journeyman
in the National Football League. So I think that you know,
Atlanta has at least a bettest shot with a guy
who's somewhat maybe coming off an injury than Aaron Rodgers
was forty years of age coming off that injury. And
who's going to back them up? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
And that was the cardinal sin last year, Like they
had to know as an organization that Zach Wilson was
going to red shirt and not see the field no
matter what. And if that's the case, you couldn't put
yourself in a situation where God forbid, something happens to
your quarterback Zach Wilson's on the field. Like that was
an organizational mismanagement mistake to me. So to come in
now and say, well, Torod Taylor's going to manage this thing, like,

(23:31):
I don't know how I feel about that at all.
You know, it's I'm not saying that there was an easy,
better solution. That's always difficult, but man, I would be
more comfortable frankly, based.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
On what we saw last year.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
I'd be more comfortable if they got out and aggressively
gotten somebody like Flacco to come back into the building.
Like it's just yeah, it's a less than ideal situation
and you can't do that two years in a row.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
You're exactly right. He's Jason Fitz.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm Andy Fermerway on Fox Sports Sunning of Fox Sports
Ready and now coming up next on Fox Live from
the Tyraq dot com studio. Just what he needs, even
more pressure, that's next. But first, a man who thrives
on pressure all the time, Kevin Wyatt with all your sport.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
One team who did not thrive on pressure though. On Saturday,
the Florida State Seminoles. They played Georgia Tech in at Dublin,
Ireland to begin their season, and the Yellow Jacks coming
away with the upset.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
It's tumbling, it's turning, it is.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
The horn kid, the luck of the Iris, it's the
heart of the Jackets, and Georgia Tech knocks off number
ten Florida State.

Speaker 7 (24:37):
Georgia Tech Sports that work from lear Field there with
the call as Georgia Tech upsetting the tenth thranks Seminoles
twenty four to twenty one on that forty four yard
buzzer beating field goal and four Georgia Tech. The last
time they beat a top ten opponent back in twenty fifteen,
it was Florida State, so history repeating itself in Dublin
on Saturday. Elsewhere, in college football, SMU with a come

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from behind win against Nevada. They win it twenty nine
to twenty four after they get sixteen points late in
the fourth quarter. Montana State the first FCS over FBS upset.
They get three fourth quarter touchdowns to take down New
Mexico and Albuquerque thirty five to thirty one. And the
Lake Game out on the Islands Hawaii in Delaware State,
the Rainbow Warriors do win it thirty five two fourteen.

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In a Major League Baseball, Daughters five game winning streak
comes to and in at the hand of the Tampa
Bay Rays, who get homers in the ninth and tenth
inning to beat Los Angeles nine to eight. Arizona, though
they're still red hot five straight wins, including a four
to one victory against the Red Sox, the Padres do
lose to the Mets seven to one, so LA is
lead in that division now sits at three games. Cleveland

(25:49):
Guardians demolished the Texas Rangers thirteen to five. Twins keep
pace with a six to nothing win against the Cardinals,
but the Royals do loose in the Phillies eleven to
two behind a couple of home runs from JT Real
To so Cleveland's lead in that American League Central sits
at two games. In the Al Ease, it's the Yankees
lead once again, down to a half a game on
the Orioles. That's after the Bronx Bombers lose to the

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Rockies nine to two. The Orioles get a three to
two victory against the Astros, so again that Yankee lead
just half a game. The Giants do beat the Seattle
Mariners four to three at the Little league level Little
League World Series Championship game set for Sunday, Florida and Taiwan.
First pitch set for three o'clock Eastern time. In the WNBA,

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Kate Leclark in action on Saturday, twenty three points eight assists,
but the Indiana Fever do lose to Minnesota ninety to eighty.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Beck You guys, thanks keV. Seeing it now now expectations
can kill. We'll get to that in just about a minute.
He's Jason Fitzen foot Bucket Brooklyn, Andy Furman, and this
is Fox Sports Sunday and one of my favorite players
in baseball of all time, Rod Carew Get this, FITZI
he became an American citizen yesterday. So my question is
it too late for to vote for this year? We
have been voting coming up in November, big election. I mean,

(27:04):
if you become a citizen yesterday, you have to wait
to How does that work?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I don't know, I think, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
I don't know, but congrats you listen, that's an incredible
anytime somebody gets their citizenship. To me, that's such an
incredible and like just humbling moment that somebody loves the
place that they live in so much that they put
that effort in to learn about it and to assimilate
into it and really be part of it.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I just I think it's such a beautiful thing. Man.
That's incredible. And I hope he gets to vote, because
I do. That's one of the great things that you
get from that.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
So maybe that's why he went for the citizenship now
to vote for you for the presidential election. Who knows
about that. All right, we're gonna have ask FITZI. Are
you ready to ask FITZI in about seven eight minutes
from now?

Speaker 3 (27:41):
You ready for that?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I'm ready. I feel good. I feel good, I feel
hyped up. I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
You sound great? You really do? Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I'll talk about the quarterbacks in the National Football League,
in particular, bon nicks Bone needs to be the first
Broncos quarterback in Denver, a rookie to start since John
Elway in nineteen eighty three.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
You don't think that's pressure. I don't know why they
would do that. I get it. You know, he's a first.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Pick, he's a rookie quarterback at a big college career.
He's going to be the quarterback of the future. But
they're thrown to the wolves like that. You know, back
in the day, the guy would come on the sidelines
with his baseball cap on backwards with a clipboard.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
And learn, Learn.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
And you know who follows that ruling. You know who's
followed that path. The Green Bay Packers. Look what they've
done with their quarterbacks. They have their quarterbacks learning from
the Brett Farrs of the world, and then the Aaron
Rodgers of the world, and Jordan Love came in learning
from Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I think that's the way to go.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
But now they've thrown these guys to the wolves with
you know, all of a sudden, you get beat up,
you lose your confidence, and I just don't understand why
you throw that guy in there with all that pressure.
I just it boggles my mind where they're doing that,
especially in Denver. I've lived there, and those people are fanatics.
They're crazy, those fans.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
It does put a lot of pressure on BO. But
Bo is older than most. I say that politely.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Bo.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
He's twenty four years old, right like, so you know,
if you think about it, Jordan Love is I think
twenty five, and bow Nicks is twenty four.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
He's played a lot college football.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
BO was also I think just a little bit more
life mature than a lot of kids that come out.
I mean, because he is twenty four, because you know,
the way life went down for him, like you know,
going from Auburn to Oregon was a very conscious decision,
and you know, I think there's some maturity to how
he lives his life that probably makes him well suited
for it. I still think, and I would implore anybody

(29:22):
because I was on the sidelines for the first ever
bow Knick's college game when he was playing for Auburn.
Like I was at that game covering it for ESPN
at the time. And if you go back and you
really rewatch his college career, his road and home splits
are drastic, especially in the SEC, they were awful. So
Bo was a much different quarterback at home than it
was on the road. That didn't really rear its ugly

(29:44):
head to the same level at Oregon, which you could
say is maybe maturity in his process, but you could
also just to be polite, especially post COVID, are Pack
twelve environments, particularly as taunting for the most part, as
what it's like to if you're an Auburn.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Quarterback playing at Alabama, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
So I'm genuinely interested to see what rears as ugly
head there, you know, when he has to go to Arrowhead,
what's that looked like. Plus to your point about the Broncos,
the Broncos roster is not good. And I know everybody
wants to sit here and say, but to Sean Payton
and it's bow next cool. You don't win a bunch
of games with that combination without having other people on
your roster that can play. I just think the Broncos

(30:23):
are kind of a disaster right now with where they
are in their talent they're rebuilding. I think they'll be
fine long term, but this year I expect Bo to
have some huge ups and downs and that's going to
be tough on the kid. He's got to be able
to have that confidence to go through it, and Sean
Payton is going to have to manage him in a
way that Sean Bayton clearly showed he couldn't manage with
Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
You know, you're exactly right, and you know what, if
you want to get ato Sean Payton's mindset over here,
you know, Bo may have gotten this quarterbacking gig by default.
Now who's going to start there? Jared Stidham was Zach Wilson.
I mean, so basically he's the best of the rest,
and look, let him take his lumps, because he's going
to be our guy for the future. And you certainly

(31:01):
correct about you know what they have. The wide receiver
situation right now is sort of weak. You know, you're
only as good as the people around you. You really are.
Certainly you've got to move with the quarterback in the
National FOOTBA League, but he needs some help and he
doesn't have much help over there.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
He really doesn't.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
I think quarterback, particularly in the NFL, in a perfect world,
is supposed to be like a seesaw or teeter totter,
depending on where you grew up. Right, Like in the beginning,
the people around the quarterback are supposed to help lift
the quarterback up, and then eventually the scales tip and
the quarterback is lifting everybody else up. So it's going
to be interesting to see when bo is being asked
to do the heavy lifting from day.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
One, what that looks like.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
You know, there are rare moments where Jordan Love is
growing with a young cores all at the same time,
you know. But I would also remind people that right now,
in the entire conversation about Jordan Love, even we just
we're giving the grace of forgiveness for the entire first
half of the season last year where he was not good.
I mean, go back and rewatch that that Monday night
game against the Raiders, Jordan Love was just an abject

(31:59):
to It was terrible, right, So it took a little
while for him to either get comfortable or whatever we're
gonna call it, right, you know, so I would expect
some of the same from Bo right, Like that only
makes sense. You're looking at a kid that's coming in
kind of have to learn the speed of the game quickly,
doesn't have a great mentor tutor around him to help
him that play it at that point, like that quarterback
room doesn't have a dominant they don't.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's not Patrick Mahomes with then Alex Smith, Like there
is no Alex Smith in that room.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
So I do think that all impacts the first six
eight weeks of the Broncos season.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
You just made a great point with that tita tita situation,
because you know, does the quarterback meet the receiver or
vice versa. I look at Kansas City with Patrick Mahomes
Tyreek Hill. When Tyreek Hill left and they went to
Miami to the Dolphins, everybody, oh it's all over you look,
they thrived.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
They didn't miss a beat.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
The Chiefs had not missed a beat with Tyreek Hill
going to the Miami Dolphins. So again, you know, Patrick
Mahomes is there. They complimented each other very nicely. You
go back to to the New England Patriots, with Tom Brady.
You know what Hall of Fame receivers had he ever
had in New England. Seriously, so he sort of tipped
the scale a little bit because I think he made
the receivers in New England more so than receivers making him.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
You're right, yeah, and it's it's a process, you know.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
And for everyone that sits there and looks at Mahomes
and says what we got to find on Mahomes, I
would just remind everybody that Patrick Mahomes was drafted in
a situation where he has credited in interviews repeatedly that
Alex Smith helped teach him how to prep, how to
watch film, how to break down everything, how to be
a pro, how to eat, what to do like Alex
Smith helped him grow, while he also had one of

(33:32):
the better offensive minds we've ever seen, and Andy Reid
with him, So like great, if you want to go
draft the best quarterback, arguably one of the best quarterbacks
of all time and the best quarterback of his current generation.
If you want to go get that guy, you also
better have the best mentor and you also have to
have one of, if not the best coaches in the
game right now. If you combine all those things, you
can have your mahomes. And so if you're Denver, you're

(33:55):
looking at and say, well, why can't Sean Payton be
Andy Reid? Okay, well, somebody still has to be Alex Smith.
Like somebody, he still has to help grow the maturity
of the kids. So I just I need to remind
everybody that it's not just draft a guy and he's
going to be mahomes. There's so much that goes into
actually creating mahomes that we forget now with context and the.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Kansas City situation having you know, Mahomes learned from the mentor,
and the Green Bay situation, having Jordan Love learned from
the mentor. You know, that's kind of gone by the boards,
but it's worth that. It's worse than Kansas City and
it's working in Green Bay. But you know what the
other clubs don't do it. They take these quarterbacks, they
draft them, boom, they throw them to the wolves and
sometimes the confidence factor and maybe that's why Zach Wilson failed.

(34:35):
You need to throw the guy to the wolves, and
he just couldn't get it done, especially with that harsh,
harsh New York media. But we move on, all right,
Jason fitz Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sonny and Fox Sport's ready.
You know what it's time ask FITZI his next.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
You're listening to Fox sportsdio, all right.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Ask Fitzy's coming right up.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
This is Fox Sports Sonny and Fox Sports ready to
ask Jason Fitzen for Bucket Brooks right here, Fox Sports
Sunday on, Andy Furman and we'll live from the ti
rap dot com studios.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Are you ready? Buckling in fits? Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
I feel good? I feel so ready for this. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Here we go, Here we go for you, fitz Is
it football or is it music for you?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Like we that's a question of me. But what's what's
your priority in life? Football and music?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
I mean football is my priority and music is just
what I do for fun. Like you know, music is
just I've been lucky enough to live two dream careers.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I never I never shy away from that.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
But this summer I got to sit in with a
bunch of buddies and have a bunch of fun.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Playing some shows. So you know, like music's a nice release.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
But yeah, like the number of times I would post
something about like me sitting in with a buddy and
playing the show, and they're like, oh, everyone's like you're
getting back on the road.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I'm like, god, no, Like it's nice.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I get to go out on stage, you get to
play a song with you know, Chris you Own or
Collective Soul or somebody like that, and like have a
good time. And then I go. But they go live
on a tour bus. I go back to my comfy
house and talk about football. I'll take football all day
over music.

Speaker 8 (35:59):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Okay, So, so how does your life change Jason Fitz
during the football season.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Oh, man, Like I have to actually watch all the games. Like,
here's one thing. I'm not a fan of faking watching it.
So like for me, I rewatch every game, every NFL
game from every Sunday. I rewatch, and then I also
try and go back and rewatch every game from like
a ranked team in college football as best I can.

(36:25):
That's harder because some of that stuff is harder to find.
But like, I never want somebody else to form my opinions.
So one thing for me is like I spend a
lot of my week rewatching things with a notepad, tried
to figure out like what I actually think. But the
one thing that I love about football season. I say
this all the time, my friend.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
You get this.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Our job is to write a book report after every
chapter of a book. So the biggest thing I always
try and do is just acknowledge it. Just because chapter
one of a book looked like it was going to
be the best ever doesn't mean that it's wrong to
admit that after chapter two the book now sucks. Like So,
you know, Colin says all the time, like new information,
new opinion.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I believe that strongly.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
You know, you got to rewatch everything to make sure
that you're actually giving the best information you can.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
All right, okay, go, all right, continue.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
We would ask FITZI football for you, obviously I love,
But as a college or NFL, which one it takes priority?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
And why?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Oh that's a great question. See.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
I prefer covering college because I don't care who wins
or loses. I just want people to yell and scream,
like that's the fun in all.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Of it for me.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
So I'm all in for covering college because frankly, I
don't have any emotion with it. That being said my
whole week, even as a grown man that should never
admit this. My whole week changes based on how my
beloved Raiders play, so sadly, unfortunately, because of that, I
am you know, my Sundays are just absolutely all about
the regiment of watching NFL games and then you know,

(37:44):
trying to get somewhere private to watch the Raiders game
because I have to apologize to my neighbors for my
language every week when I watch it.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
So I openly admit that.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
But yeah, I'm a I prefer as a fan, I
prefer the NFL. As a media member. I much prefer
college because I don't care who wins it loses.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
There you go, Okay, Now, which NFL rookie quarterback will
have the most success this season? Caleb Williams, Bow Knicks
or Jaden Daniels or anybody else in your heart of.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Hearts, Yeah, it's Caleb, and it's not even close. I
think Caleb is great by the way. You know, it's
funny how we just try and make simple things complicated sometimes,
and that's what we did with Caleb in the draft.
Caleb Williams is going to be a great quarterback. Congratulations,
Bears fans, you can relax. I don't care about sid luckman.
I don't care about Jim McMahon. You have a quarterback
at this point. Relax. You got a guy I think

(38:34):
honestly that we're gonna find over the next several years
that he becomes Caleb becomes one of the great quarterbacks
in the end, not one of the good.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I think he becomes one of the great quarterbacks in
the league.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
You know, when Caleb Williams, who's drafted, Sid Luckman's name
came out of the dead, they really did. I mean,
that's how bad, that's how far back you got to
go to find that a franchise quarterback with the Chicago Bears.
I mean, people had never heard of Sid Luckman and
his name became commonplace when they drafted Caleb Williams.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's unbelievable, it really is.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Yeah, you got kids out there in Chicago saying Sid
Luckman's lame, like I know who the heck he is.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
It's hysterical to me.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
So yeah, one hundred percent, Sid, thanks for your time
with the Bears.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
But the Bears are gonna be fine now.

Speaker 9 (39:13):
They got it.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
They got a modern quarterback.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Sid Luckman Erasmus Hole High School in Brooklyn, the same
as Billy Cunningham, all right, who signs a contract first
with the Dallas Cowboys Michael Parsons, Dak Prescott was C.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
D Lamb.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
I'm gonna go see d Lamb with this one because
I think the comps in the market make it the easiest.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Look, here's my belief on DAK.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
I believe that Dak is gonna have an MVP caliber season,
might even win the dang thing. I think the Cowboys
are gonna win a bunch of football games because that's
all they ever do, and the death of the Cowboys
is wildly overrated. In that process, I think Dak's gonna
just figure out what the open market looks like. And
I believe that there are multiple teams, one of which
is my beloved Raiders, that at the end of this year,
are gonna be prepared to offer Dak sixty million dollars

(39:53):
a year, fully guaranteed on a four year contract where
every dollar is guarant like I'm talking to Sean Watson.
Guaranteed type money coming Dak at the end.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Of the year. Love it or hated it.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
If you're a Cowboys fan, if you got nothing you'd
rather have, You'd rather have Dak all day than some
of the options that are out there in this league.
So I think Dak's going to be the last to go.
So I'll go CD one, Micah two, Dak three, and
Dak's not going to be a.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Cowboy next year.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Well, I hear you saying, I'm really surprised because I
thought that would be the number one. But let me
do this with you. Let's have Fitzi's top three quarterbacks
in the NFL, but throw Patrick Mahomes out because I
know you're gonna make him number one.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
So one, two and three without Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Lamar Jackson MVP, Josh Allen MVP caliber and this year
Joe Burrow if he can stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I can't believe you, Josh all In the end, I
can't believe John. I mean, I mean, I just think
without Stefan Marbury. Well, we'll see what happens over the okay,
Jason Fitz Andy Fermer, right here, Fox Sports something on
Fox Sports right to stick with us. Right here, this
team is chasing a record and breaking the bank. We'll
get to that in just about a minute. He's Jason

(40:54):
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Speaker 4 (41:21):
How you doing living the dream? I mean, come on,
we're hanging out like it's a beautiful weekend. We got
college football alire Forrest. We're only a few weeks away
from the NFL being there, like we're about to have
the big week one in a few days.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Like, I don't know it, just if your life feels
good right now.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Look, the hot take of the world is that I
think summer is wildly overrated, and I think fall is
the best season. So for me, this is all just
the signature that we're almost through summer, which is kind
of gross, and we're finally to the time of the
year that I think is the best, which is clearly fall.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Some is not overrated.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
When you were a student, When you were when you're
in school, you can't wait for somemmer.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
But you're right.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I think that the fall may be the best because
the season's great, the weather's better, but the days get shorter,
and I don't like that. Not short, but it gets
stucker earlier. But I want to talk a little bit
about the NFL right now. I want to talk about
one of the teams that it's a tremendous thing what
they're doing, what they're trying to accomplish. I'm talking about
the Kansas City Chiefs. They're aiming to become the first
team in the NFL Super Bowl era to win three

(42:22):
straight titles, three straight Super Bowls, which is unheard of.
It's unreal, And honestly, I'm gonna say this, I don't
think the Chiefs get the credit they deserve. I mean,
it's like a whole hum thing with the Kansas City Chiefs.
It's always about who's going to dethrone them rather than
how good they are. And what do I say? Why
do I say that? Because the cost of their success
keeps going up for those Kansas City Chiefs. They just

(42:44):
signed an extension to their center Creed Humphrey four years
seventy two MILI, making him the highest paid center in
the NFL. And this comes right after a four year
deal for their kicker, Harrison Butker, for twenty five and
a half million dollars. So the money is flowing in
Kansas City and they keep on rolling stopping this team.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Which is just sort of a reminder to everybody else
when you complain, well, can't pay this guy, can't pay
that guy. You can if the guy is great, Like,
they'll figure it out if the guy is great. And
the salary cap numbers is where they're going right now,
and the trajectory of the new TV deals and what
that means for the future of the salary cap.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I just think everybody needs to calm down.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
A little bit with this concept of like, oh a minute,
somebody gets paid, it's the end of the world. No,
it isn't like there's just it's a necessary evil. If
you have talent, you're gonna have to pay talent. Like,
I just don't know what else I can tell fans
other than if you have talent, you're gonna have to
pay talent.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
And you should have that problem.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Worry about that problem when you get to that spot,
like you know, it's not old and the chiefs back
and I'm not picking against the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I'm done. I'm done being.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
An idiot at the end of the year when I
think this is the year the Chiefs walk it back
and it's like, nope, the Chiefs are the Chiefs, and
the Chiefs are always going to be the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well, I don't know if they are always going to
be the Chiefs, but honestly, I mean certainly, and Andy Reid,
I should say, they lost to your raiders last year
down the stretch you must have been, But.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
What's the matter? What's it matter? Like they went? You know.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
That's the funny thing is if not, if not last
year when like if you're Buffalo who I just praised,
you know, Josh Allen earlier, if you couldn't get the
chief that version of the Chiefs, why are you ever
going to get the Chiefs? Like it's just one of
those things where last year's version of the Chiefs was
not they were not superhuman, they were supposedly gettable, and
all they did was hoist the Lombardy yet again. So

(44:28):
I just the death of the Chiefs is something I'm
not going to talk about in the regular season. I
don't care if you and I are playing wide receiver form.
I still believe in Mahomes that much.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, I agree. I need to tell you what that
my home story. I mean again, I think it gets
buried under so many other stories in the National Football League.
I mean, this guy came out of Texas Tech and
they had a losing, say a season when he was
a senior. But the money factor, I'm not so sure.
It's personnel as much as management that wants to win.
If management wants to win, they find the way. What
do I mean by that? Andy Reid just signs a

(44:57):
five year deal for one hundred mili one hundred million dollars.
It's a lot of Hamburgers for Andy Reid, it really is.
But if management wants to win, they find the money.
And it's kind of an eagle thing. You know, these
owners want to be down there hoisting that trophy. They
really do. So, you know, you want to win Boom,
you pay for the price. There's a price for victory.
And they've got that money going and it's flowing in

(45:19):
Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Well, they also have really good smart people around, you know,
and that's one thing that you know, we get so
obsessed with quarterbacks and we get so obsessed with the
easy answer of a coach.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
But man, if you're the Chiefs, you've.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Got a strong front office, you've got a great head coach,
you've got a great quarterback, and now you're spending money
all over the place because when you have those things,
every year you're in your pocket. Every year you're in
your window where this is the year that you know
we might we can win it all. And so it's
just it changes so much. I just we undervalue the
rest of organizations. And it's one thing that is everybody

(45:55):
goes into the picks this year.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Just look around.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
You'll notice the teams that are picked to go in
to finish in last are always the teams that have
the questionable quarterback coach situation that people don't really pay
a lot of attention to.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Right.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
So, you know, it's funny to me that we have
this sort of block as a society. And I don't
care if we're talking about the Raiders, who you know,
obviously I'm a fan, I never hide that, but the
concept that they're going to be one of the worst
teams in the league, just to me, that begs that
you didn't really watch last year because they shouldn't be
that you know, and the Titans and an area I'm

(46:28):
familiar with after years in Nashville, like the amount of
times I hear opinions on the Titans that are just
obviously not informed.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
And they're not informed because nobody pays attention.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Why because they don't have a quarterback and coach usually
that people are that interested in. So it's just it's
a weird dynamic that we just have to understand that
everybody puts all the weight on one thing.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Food trips to the Super Bowl, three titles and six
AFC Championships games appearances in the last six seasons for
the Kansas City Chiefs, and the money is flowing. And
I say this to send the message out to Jerry Jones.
If you're a Dallas Cowboys fan, you got to be
scratch in your head why this guy will not sign
Dak Prescott with this again, as you just mentioned, the
teams that are on the second level, the second tier

(47:07):
of the national football they have quarterback problems, they really do.
And the longer you wait, the longer you wait to
sign a guy, then what when are you gonna end
up paying for the guy? I mean, the dark Prescott's
just just licking his chops right now. You know that,
because he'll become a free agent next year and command
big time money. If Dallas doesn't want to give up
the money, and I don't know why they won't, they
should have sign him in June.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Yeah, well, and that's you're one hundred percent right. If
you know you have your guy, If you think you
have your guy, just go sign him. Because the sooner
you get that money paid out, the sooner you're ahead
of the curve. And now you know, if you're Dallas,
you're turning around, you're negotiating. And this is just such
a rarity, truly a rarity in this world. That they
are negotiating with no power. That doesn't usually happen in

(47:50):
the NFL, but that is exactly what's happening to Dallas
because the deal doesn't allow for them to franchise, they
can't trade. They have no power with dak at the
end of this, and that happens so rarely because owners
understand if you lose the power, you're gonna have to overpay.
So I'm really, I'm truly curious to see how that
portion of this plays out, because they're not they're just

(48:10):
the worst situation you can imagine for a team.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, I give Dak a lot of credit. He's been
very very quiet throughout this whole process, knowing full well
that he's got the power. I mean, he's kind of
by the unis right now. I mean, they need him,
they want him, obviously, they need him, and they're gonna
have to pay for him, and he knows that. But
you know, I'm one of those guys. I really don't
like looking at the schedules prior to the season and
saying this team's gonna win here, they're gonna lose there.

(48:33):
It's a waste of time. You know, it's fun, but
I don't like doing good. But I'm taking a peak
now at the Kansas City Chief schedule and there's a
good chance, in my heart of hearts, the first five
games they could easily be four and one. Now they
got a blockbuster on the September the fifth with Baltimore
that's at home. But after that, I think they should
beat Cincinnati, Atlanta, the Chargers in New Orleans. They could

(48:54):
be four and one going into a bye.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Colley And You're right, by the way, the schedule game
is really tricky because if we're being honest, Like last
year at this time, if you were looking at the
schedule game and you said, you know, all right, well
they got the Texans coming up, you'd laugh at that
and be like, well, that's an easy win. And we
saw how that played out, right, So you just have
to remember that, you know, the beauty of the NFL,
the very thing that we love about it is that

(49:17):
it is wildly unpredictable, right, So that that has to
play into the conversation of this. But yeah, I mean,
the fact is the Chiefs, whatever we think of what
happened last year, it never looked easy. Didn't pass the
eye tests, as they say in college football all the time,
the dreaded eye test. Didn't pass the eye test. Who cares,
because if you're Kansas City, you have the best player
in the world right now. And when you have the

(49:38):
best player in the world, that's the true normalizer, that's
the true equalizer. Everything else is just sort of irrelevant
to that point because they will be able to do
what they want, when they want, how they want.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
You know, I'm a pretty decent listener, and I listened
to what you said in the first hour, and the
question people are going to say, well, what makes Patrick
Mahomes so great and why is he kind of developed
this way because he wasn't that way in college. He
was maybe almost an after thought really, And you hit
it right on the head when you said he came
there and learned everything. Gave the credit for what he

(50:10):
has done to his guy, to the guy who was
quarterback in Kansas City, Alex Smith, you know, prior to
taking over the reins, and that's a great, a great situation.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
And again we don't see much of that. But to
be honest with.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
You, I mean, I just I just don't understand how
he became so good so quickly, and you know, he
took the NFL by storm. I mean, it's a story
that really needs to be retold. I'm sure they'll do
a movie on him when he retires, an HBO special
or something. But this guy, he may be the best
quarterback of all time when you think about it, when
it's all said and done.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Yeah, he's got a real shot at that. And you know,
there's no magic special sauce. I also have to remind
people to this point too, And look, everybody's different, But
when I was a kid, was a little boy, when
I was a kid, if I as a young man,
if you'd handed me millions of dollars, fully guaranteed, I
would have probably wrecked my life. Like I just didn't

(51:08):
know what to do with it. I wouldn't have known
what to do with it. I wouldn't have known how
to react to it. It just I wasn't equipped for.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
It, right.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
I don't think everybody knows how to handle the same
things the same way, and we have to just sort
of remember that because it's a much different conversation for
each of these different situations, you know, like we want
to sit here and apply a universal rule that we
can learn from Patrick Mahomes, And I think that my
universal rule is that there is no universal rule, because
you never know how somebody handles something as real as

(51:38):
I'm now, you know, a multimillionaire, and I can do
whatever I want to do.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
And I'll never forget.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
A guy that was drafted by the Titans years ago,
and I was asking him after he was drafted. I said,
how's it going? And he said, man, I'm really struggling
to figure this out. Because when he was in college,
they all went to lunch together, they went to class together,
they lived and moved as a unit. And you know,
he pointed out that when he got to the pros,
it's just a bunch of adults that are not necessarily
living that way they're doing. You know, they have their families,

(52:03):
they have their lives, they have all these other things
that matter to them. And it was a big adjustment
for him. And I think we have to remember not
everybody makes that adjustment the same way too. So it
just is all so variable and we want to apply
one rule to it. It's not the same as making
spreadsheets somewhere like it just it is a it's a
different ride, it's a different life.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
You know, the money could really create major problems. And
when I think of that, when I think of the
money what it created, I think the money created a
problem for Deshaun Watson. I really do because right now,
you know, he hurt his shoulder the other day in
practice and he got some rust on his body going
into the season. I don't honestly think he has that drive.

(52:44):
I think he's I don't know Deshaun Watson, I really don't.
He doesn't know me, but just looking from a distance
and all the money, the guaranteed money that he got,
it basically he was the first quarterback that thoughted this
quarterback craze of big time money. I don't think he's
got that burning desire to prove any thing anymore. I
really don't because of the money that he has. Do
you think there's a possibility to uncorrect on that?

Speaker 4 (53:06):
I mean, there's something wrong, and you know, I don't
know what the lack of ability comes from, but I
would say this, the Browns have a super Bowl caliber roster,
which is only laughable to me because I asked at
the time when he was acquired. My question to Browns
fans is what would it take, you know, results on
the field to justify the controversy that came with the signing.

(53:26):
And I'm just talking to be clear here, I'm just
talking about the football player here.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Not not the man.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
So that was my question to everybody, and the answer
I repeatedly got was, well, super Bowl, super at least
that they got at least have a run where they
stand a chance to the Super Bowl. Okay, well they
have that now. I think the rest of their roster
is one of the best in the league. I think
the Browns have everything it takes. I love the coach,
I love the roster, I love everything about the Browns.
I think they are a super Bowl caliber team that
does not have a super Bowl caliber quarterback. And we've

(53:53):
reached the spot where now the player that they brought
in to help take them over the top and really
change the perception of the organization and get them to
that Super Bowl is I think the liability that will
prevent them from winning one. And that's a staggering place to.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Be exactly right there.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
I mean, he hasn't played in about three years, and
you know, you don't know what he's going to do
when he gets on the field. And again, I just
don't think he has that desire. And then flipping the
coin on that, you know, there are quarterbacks right now
who have been bouncing around in the league. On one
of them, particularly Baker Mayfield, I think he still has it.
I think Baker Mayfield has that desire to say, wait

(54:29):
a minute, you know, don't flow me out the door yet,
because I got something left and he went to Tampa
and it gave him a big deal and he's their quarterback.
So I think that it works in both ways. Baker
Mayfield had that desire and you know, people were ready
to give up on him, I think right now he's
the future right now to some extent for the Tampa.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Bay Bucks Well and Baker.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
I talked to it the Super Bowl quite a bit,
and the funny thing is talking to him there, I
asked him what the biggest difference was, what clicked, and
his response was, I just have to be me now,
and he said, I don't I have the pressure of
being a franchise savior.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
There are no expectations.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
I'm just coming in and I'm just playing football the
way I like to play football, and I get to
be myself. And I think that there is some element
of that that we forget. You know, there are certain
guys that in the pressure cooker, you know, don't necessarily thrive.
And what we've learned is that Baker may have been
one of those, you know, like it may be just
as simple as Baker needed to get somewhere where he

(55:23):
could just be Baker, and that version of him can
go out and be the best version of him. And
that that's just again, these human elements that we forget
about every one of these athletes. We want, we want
every guy that plays in the league to fit within
some cookie cutter of like I play in the league.
I'm going to be the face of the franchise. Everything's
going to be glorious. And I just like for everyone
listening that has kids. I don't, but if you do

(55:44):
have kids, ask yourself, like, how many universal rules apply
to every kid in a class, And the answer to
that is none. Like I was such a different kid
than every other kid that I grew up with, you know.
So it's just we just need to remember that. That's
what's happening here for these athletes across board.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
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Speaker 1 (56:29):
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Speaker 3 (56:29):
I don't know about you.

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talk about athletes, and you go to a ballgame, guy
strikes out, Hey, he's a bomb, he's making ten million dollars,
he's a bumm. And I just this time I gotta

(57:15):
defend the athlete. Not that I bang on them, well
I guess I do at times, but you know that's
what we do here. But this is a story that
I had to scratch my head. I got to share
it with you because it's crazy, it really is. The
Yankees just defended Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge is, like, you know,
one of the greatest of all time. He really is.
What he's been doing this year is amazing. Over sixty

(57:36):
home runs again this year. They defended him after south
Shore Little League coach Bob Latuza criticized him for not
paying enough attention to his team at the Little League
Classic on Williamsport, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Hey, Latusa, you ought to be lucky the Yankees even there.
Look at you and your team. It's unbelievable this guy.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Laturza said that he meeting Judge and the Yankee manager
Aaron Boone and pitcher Gary Cole, didn't spend enough time
looking at his team and watching his team and waving
at them at the Little League World. Are you kidding me?
Are you freaking kidding me? This guy should be thrown
out of the little Are you? I read this stuff?
I had to read it twice. I can't believe it.
Aaron Judge, He's always taken pictures with kids, He's always

(58:17):
signing off of all players, of all people. You're picking
on the wrong guy. You're picking on Aaron Judge. It's unreal.
I couldn't believe this FITZI.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Well, and this is one of the reasons why there
are celebrities everywhere that just don't want to even take
the chance of spending time in those settings because you
suddenly you're doing a nice thing, you're at something, you're
you're involved in something, and all of a sudden, well
it wasn't enough, or you know, maybe you had a
little attitude or whatever, and it's like, these are the
moments that I just I don't understand it. I don't
understand the win in saying anything about it. I don't

(58:49):
understand the win. And now, if you're Aaron Judge, what's
the win in giving anybody any time? Like That's just
that this is such a jaded part of society that
we can be now in this world where access to
celebrities is great. But then I say, well, but was
it enough? And did they do enough for the kids
and all this. I it's just you can't put somebody

(59:10):
in that lose lose situation. It's it's absolutely stupid and
shame on them for putting him in this situation.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
In my mind, and I understand why these athletes right now,
when they're on the road, they never go to a restaurant.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
They get room service all the time.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
They don't want to be involved because everybody right now
has a camera with their phone and they're going to
do something. You to take a picture with somebody, you
put your arm around. The next thing you know, it's
a sexual assault. It's crazy. Really, I'm gonna give you
a story. This is crazy, and I've never shared this,
but I'm going to share it with you. As a kid,
I loved the Boston Celtics. They stayed at the Paramount
Hotel in New York City.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I lived in Brooklyn. I used to go to every
Celtic game. When they played the Knicks, I went up
and I went to the Paramount Hotel. I caught on
the phone in the lobby, which would never happen today.
Melt Counts was playing for the Boston Celtics, a seven footer.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
He let me in his room.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Think about that. I spent like an hour in mel
Count's room. I was like, oh, maybe tenth maybe eleventh grade,
whatever it was. I took the subway from Brooklyn, went
to the Paramodt Hotel on forty sixth Street in Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Milk Counts and I would talk and the kid.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I think he went to Oregon State milk counts and
we were talking about, you know, basketball, what do you
like to sell it? It was it was amazing, I mean,
and some guys were in and out. I think Tom
Thacca was on the club of the team on the
Celtics at the time. He came into the room to
say hello. It was something that I'll never forget. And
you know what, it will never happen again, and it
could never happen to any kid today because there's so
much security. I understand why. I understand why there is.

(01:00:30):
But back in the day, everything was wide open.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
It really was well and even look at Twitter, like X,
I guess this we're now supposed to call it. But
if you think about what Twitter used to be like,
there was access to people that you never had, right.
It just it felt so different and special that you
could tweet somebody and then a famous person would actually
tweet you back, and like the concept that you could

(01:00:54):
make friendships and relationships with people doing it that way
versus now where it's just everybody posts something that everybody
that it just becomes such a lose lose in that process,
and it's just it's it's a shame because there is
this moment.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
You know, I'll go back to my music days.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
If you ever watched the movie Almost Famous, you think
about what it was like back then where your tour
in the world, and if you ran into a rock star,
it was the coolest thing that you could ever experience.
And now if you run into a rock star, the
first thing you do is you pull out your phone
and then you're putting it on social media. And God
forbid that rock star might be having a conversation with
their wife and they don't really want to sit there

(01:01:29):
and talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Right then, God forbid that that happens.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
You know, it's like God forbid somebody be having a
bad day. You know, these are the things that like
nobody seems to care about anymore. And it's just it's
wildly frustrating to me. It truly is just it's mind
blowing to me that we put people in a lose
lose situation and then everybody says, well, you chose fame,
And I will remind people that that's not necessarily the case.
You can choose to do something you love and it

(01:01:54):
doesn't mean that you were hungry or ever wanted fame.
Like they're very different things you know that maybe nobody
cares about, but there's a real difference. Like there are
actors that I know that are very successful that the
thing they hate about their job is the fame they
never wanted that. There are musicians I know that just
don't really particularly love people. They just love making music,

(01:02:14):
and like we don't allow that to happen. We just
turn around and say, well, action consequence, you're famous.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
You do this for a living.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
You know, if you and I get a hate tweet
from somebody and I clap back to it immediately, people
will say, well, he's soft and he has to understand
that comes with the territory.

Speaker 9 (01:02:28):
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I never signed up for that. I signed up to
talk about sports.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
I didn't sign up to have a raging social media
debate with some twelve year old jerk sitting behind their
keyboard that things they can say anything about my family
simply because they have anonymity.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Like it's just wild the way that we've gone with
all of this in society.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
It's funny you mentioned because I got a hate tweet
about two weeks ago. I don't know who the guy
was he put it on one of my social media deals,
and my initial thing was I was going to just
block him. I said, you know what, No, So I
rolled back to him and I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Said, well, why would you do that? Just I'm curious.
I mean, I would never do that to anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
It was just really disgusting what he wrote about. I mean,
just every other word I couldn't even say on the radio.
I said, why would you do that? And then I
roll them back, have a nice day. I haven't heard
fro him since. I still haven't blocked them. I just
don't understand why people do that. And then you know,
taking it one step further talking about these political things.
I don't want to go on politics. I really don't,
because no one's business. But I did watch a Democratic
and the Republican convention, but it's history, and I wanted

(01:03:24):
to see what's going on. And each candidate was saying that,
you know, each other, one was making the country divided.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
No, they're not. Social media is dividing the country. That
people are dividing the country.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
And basically I turned the radio and wanted to hear
talk radio and these people talking not sports, but basically
news did divide the country.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
And social media is dividing the country. When I see
what they write about each candidate, it's crazy. That's what's
dividing the country, not the candidates. It's crazy. Don't you
agree on that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
And that's because if we're being honest for a second,
that's because division caused division gets Like you said earlier,
we all learned a long time ago to you know
that at some point you just got to sort of
follow the money. And I've got you know, I've got
close friends that work for some of the news networks,
and if you actually sat there and had to drink
with them, they'll tell you afterwards that they're not picking

(01:04:16):
topics based on what they believe or what they're passionate about.
Just like there are plenty of us in this business
that don't really care about the Lakers. But you know,
during basketball season, they tell you play the hits, you
got to talk about the Lakers, right, Like that's real, y'all.
Like that there's a moment where it's like, hey, people
care about the Lakers. They will tune into the Lakers.
So TV shows during the NBA season will talk about
the Lakers. It's that simple. Well, it's the same in politics,

(01:04:38):
Like they understand who gets ratings on their network, so
they make sure that they talk about that thing because
that gets better ratings. And that's just it's a shame
because it creates It creates more people yelling, less people listening,
and that creates more division.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Well, why don't we talk about the NFL? It moves
to needles? What do we talk about college football? I mean,
you know, and I do like it. I like college football.
I like the NFL, I like the NBA. But we
don't talk about NHL. We never talk about MLS, and
we don't talk about maybe a little bit the NBA
WNBA right now. But it's all about football. We talk
about what moves the needle, and what moves the needle
is football. And honestly, at a twelve month period on

(01:05:13):
sports talk radio nationwide or even on the local basis,
I would say ten out of the twelve months is
basically football, it really, And they have something cooking anyway
every throughout ten months they do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
There's always news.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Well, and man, I'm the first to admit, like back
when I was doing my first ESPN radio show, Sarah
Spain and I used to talk about the WNBA all
the time, and we would go into coaching sessions with
our radio bosses and the first question people would ask
you is, why are you talking about this?

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Nobody cares.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Nobody cares now because people care about Caitlin Clark. Now
it's hey, guys, got to talk about the WNBA like
that's all that's all real, and that's what happens across
the board. Like I mean, I realize I'm sort of
getting into how the soup is made here, but that's
what happens all the way across the board.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
For all of us to do this is a living
like it's just that that's very real, no doubt about that.
He's very real.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
He's Jason Fitz and Footbucket Brooks on Andy Furman. We
have Fox Sports Sunday. Oh Fox Butt's ready. The question
is does the punishment fit the crime? That's coming up
next live from the Tirack dot Com studios. But first,
let's not punish this guy. He's a good friend, he
really is. Kevin Wi Never a punishment.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
On this show.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
It's always a pleasure. No, always a pleasure.

Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
In the college football though, man, we got week zero
already starting on Saturday, we already got a top ten upset.
Man college football is back already Georgia Tech Florida State
beginning the season in at Dublin, Ireland. And it's the
Yellow Jackets coming away from the Emond Isle with the victory.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
It's tumbling, it's turning.

Speaker 10 (01:06:42):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
The horn, get the luck of the Iris.

Speaker 9 (01:06:49):
It's the heart of the Jackets.

Speaker 11 (01:06:51):
At Georgia Tech knocks the number.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Ten foot to State.

Speaker 7 (01:06:56):
Carl Curtesy of the Georgia Tech Sports Network and lear
Field as they Yellowjackets upsetting the tenth rank Seminoles twenty
four to twenty one on that last second forty four
yard field goal. The last time the Leellowjackets scored a
top ten victory was back in twenty fifteen against Florida State.
So history repeating itself on a Saturday elsewhere in college football,

(01:07:21):
SMU getting the comeback win against Nevada sixteen points late
in the fourth quarter to get a twenty nine to
twenty four victory. Montana State the first fcsover FBS upset
of the season. New Mexico is the victim thirty five
to thirty one. Montana State wins it, and the late
game out in Honolulu is Hawaii defeating Delaware State thirty

(01:07:43):
five to fourteen. Little League World Series, The championship game
set for this afternoon three o'clock Eastern time. Over in
Williams Portal feature Taiwan and Florida. In a Major League
Baseball last night, the Dodgers get their five game winning
streatt snapped as the Rays get home runs both of
the ninth and tenth innings to win in Los Angeles

(01:08:05):
nine to eight. Arizona on fire, the Diamondbacks have won
five straight games, including a four to one win at Boston.
The Padres do lose to the Mets seven to one,
but LA's lead in the division right now sits at
three games. They are four and a half ahead right
now of San Diego. In that American League. At Central,

(01:08:26):
the Guardians have a two game lead. They demolish the
Texas Rangers thirteen to five. Minnesota keeps pace with a
six to nothing win against the Cardinals. The Royals do lose, however,
the Phillies eleven to two behind a couple of home
runs from JT. Real Mutos. So Cleveland right now ahead
of Minnesota and Kansas City by two games for both
of them. In the American League Central Al leads. That's

(01:08:48):
a tight division, and once again it's just a half
game lead for the Yankees. They get up ended by
the Colorado Rockies on on Saturday nine to two, while
Baltimore they do win against the Astros three to two,
and in the WNBA, Caitlin Clark in action twenty three
points eight assists of the Fever do lose to Minnesota

(01:09:09):
ninety to eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Back to you guys, Thanks, kevsee in an hour now.
It's a slap on the wrist and it's worth it.
We'll get to that in just about a minute. He's
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Fox Sports Sunday with Jason fitz right after we get
off the air. Now, we got this thing over going
with Iwood football coach Gert Ferrens Okay and his assistant
John Budmar.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
They're gonna be suspended for one game.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Why, for violation related to recruitment of the transfit quarterback
Kate McNamara.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
One game. And I read this, I said, you know,
it's not bad. Really, it's a slap on the risk.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
I'd be willing to be suspended for a game to
recruit a top notch quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Now, either going to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Punish the guy and make him pay because he's doing
something he shouldn't be doing. I'm not saying it's illegal,
but it's against the rules, or just give him that
slap on the wrist and he's going to keep on
doing it. Really, I don't see what the punishment fits
the crime on this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
I really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Yeah, look, if you're telling me that I got to
take a one game, especially if I'm Iowa, a little
context here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Let's remember that the Iowa.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Offense has been so bad for so long that if
you're telling me that as an Iowa fan, my head
coach is gonna have to take a one game suspension,
but it might give us a shot at an answer
to the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
I'd pay that penalty all day, every day. They've got
a problem, how you know what it is?

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
They're allergic to the end zone. That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
Yeah, you're not wrong. And look if this helped solve that,
then like who cares? I mean, realistically, who cares about
a one game suspension if you're Iowa at this point.
If it gives you an answer quarterback, that's all that matters.
And look, this is where college football and the NFL
are going to become more and more similar to like,
how do you win if you don't have at least

(01:11:08):
somebody that can help you generate points?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
I don't know, you know, and you need a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
So if you're Iowa, that's just dealt with this for years,
and now you're dealing with it in a big ten
that's tougher than ever, and you realize that your fan
base is going to rite if you don't at some
point figure out how to score some points. This is
a smart business move. I mean I take this ten
times out of ten.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Yeah, And Kate mcnamart he committed to Iowa back on
twenty twenty two. That was three days after he entered
the portal as a graduate transfer. He started from Michigan
in twenty twenty one. The team won the Big Ten
and they reached the college football players, but he had
that leg injury in the third game of the twenty
twenty two seasons. So look, I understand why Iowa went
after him. They need a quarterback. They want a quarterback.
They can't score. But you know, you talk about what's

(01:11:50):
going on right now as far as college is concerned,
at least in the pros. These guys have a contract
and you can control them. You can't control the players
right now. I'm not saying it's good. I'm not saying
it's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Just the way it is. You can't control players.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
I've seen players right now playing six seven years in
college football. You know what, You've got to college for
seven years? You know why, to be a doctor, not
to play football. That's what you're going to college for
for seven eight years. It's unbelievable, really, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
The funny part about that, though, is like they're never
gonna regain control of the actual kids.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I can't say this loud enough anything.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Now that the NCAA tries to do to limit the
ability of kids to make money, or the limit the
ability the kids to stay in or limit the ability
of kids in general, is going to be challenged in
court and they're gonna lose. Like that's just that every
time so far they've been challenged in court, they've lost.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
This is not rocket science.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
So what the NCAA needs to focus on now is
finding rules within their NCAA partners that don't specifically limit
the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
They're gonna they're gonna have to genuinely figure.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Out some sort of a salary cap structure, some sort
of a way that they can turn around and hold them,
hold the entire NCAA to a higher standard, but in
a way that is not gonna get legally challenged.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
That's easier said than done.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
And like that is just for everybody that's freaking out,
like I would just it's easier said than done to
put the toothpaste back in the pay in the tube.
At this point, I think the NCAA is gonna have
to figure out more creative solutions.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
And yeah, this is the new reality.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
And also I think it's gonna we're gonna see it
in the college football playoff, Like what do you want?
If you're Oregon, you have Dylan Gabriel, who's played a
lot of college football right now, he's your quarterback. Right Well,
if I got one playoff game, and I got the
choice in that one playoff game between a kid that
is eight months removed from a promposal or a kid
that has, you know, spent his the last seven years

(01:13:34):
in college football, I want that seven year kid, Like,
I'm going to have a better shot at winning that
game with a seven year kid that's that's got some experience,
it knows what's in front of him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
So I think we're gonna see more and more of this,
not less and less.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
I want to know who loses more the NC double
Ago to Chicago White Sox.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Really, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I mean it's Look, I think the concept of athletes
getting paid what was excellent? Why they bring this this
h they're the workers. You tell me what business where
workers don't get paid. First of all, they give the
team exposure, they get the school exposure, they increase enrollment,
They saw merchandise that do everything for the school. They're
working their butts off or practice, whatever it may be.

(01:14:12):
They deserve to be paid. But should they be paid
by the school, should they be paid paid by by boosters?
I mean that's the problem. And how much should they
get paid? What sports should get paid? And honestly, the
ritual always get richer. That's the problem. That's what it's
always been about. They got to fix it, they really do.
It's getting ugly. But IOWA keep on getting suspended for
a game, for a game for a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
I do it any day of a week, any data week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
How do you like that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
He's Jason Fitz. I'm Andy Ferman. We are Fox Sports
Sunday on Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Ready.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
It's a game of chance as well as luck. We
call it bottom barrel betting. And you know what, it's
freaking next bottom barrel betting right around the ben. He's
Jason Fitz. I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday
on Fox Sports Ready. About twelve minutes now before the
top of the Iowa a live from the ti iraq
dot com studios.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
But we got a game to play. Let's play it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Maybe it's bottom late. Wanted to sleep people, get my money.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
I'll put your brain to sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Betting, Yes we do.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Here's Shay shed to get a gold shay shee.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Maybe I got a live one here, maybe I could
beat Maybe I could beat fifty three.

Speaker 8 (01:15:13):
Maybe maybe maybe maybe Ever I was alf for with Fitzie,
and I know he's a good better so maybe he
knows some of these games.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Ye wasn't yesterday? Good by.

Speaker 8 (01:15:25):
To any new listeners out there. This is a game
where I basically find random lines from random betting sites,
from random games, and I'll basically give them to both
Chasing and Andy and they'll give me their thoughts. So
we're gonna go right into this, but before what happened
last week, before I get right into it. Last week, Andy,

(01:15:48):
you lost. It was three, It was three to two,
giving Bucky seventy six, and you Andy to sixty. So
you broke sixty. Are you excited about that? That's something want?

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
With the NFL, Jesus still to be stilled fresh again.

Speaker 8 (01:16:01):
We're gonna start fresh again, which is in two weeks,
more less than two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
So that's pretty convenient. Exactly, yeah, exactly, thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:16:08):
But we'll have Jason filling in for Bucky today and
he will definitely hopefully fill some big shoes. So let's see,
let's get right into the first one in the Ukrainian
table Tennis Cup, Pavel Laverne is taking on Roman Poeman
today at six am Pacific Standard time. If you guys
want to go watch some Ukrainian table tennis. Pavel is

(01:16:29):
even while Roman is minus one forty. Who do you
guys got.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
We'll lift the visit a goal first boost to fits.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Okay, this one's simple. What was the second guy's name? Roman?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
What?

Speaker 8 (01:16:38):
Roman Pomene?

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
I'm gonna say Roman Poeman because I like that better
and that feels chantable.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Roman pullman. It does, so I'm going with him. It's all.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Roman was the first guy's name? Begin, Pavel Laverne, Pavel Pavela.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
I'll go with Pavel because anybody who's got that name's
got to go into that sport because you can't do
anything else.

Speaker 8 (01:16:59):
You might be right about that in the In the
next one, we got the Badminton Japan Open. It's the
women's singles. Busar is taking on a Caine. In just
a couple of minutes. Here, Busar is plus five point
fifty while Akane is minus one thousand, one hundred to win.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Do happen?

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
But okay, let's I want a Caine was that one word.
Is it a kine or is it akine? A caine
A caine, not like a chain A caine a caine. Okay,
got it, Jason?

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
All Right, so you're going with the caine, then I'm
going with the other one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Like this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
That that's just I got to know what was the
other one again?

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
I just bosar awkwardly trying it Busar, Okay. I always
liked Mike Broussard, Right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
These are easier Busar.

Speaker 8 (01:17:48):
Yeah, that's too so. But these are easy names if
you If you don't believe it, Jason, some of these
names are crazy that I find. But on to the
next one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
I do believe that, but I'm also kind of curious
why you puts yourself in that.

Speaker 8 (01:18:01):
In the Little League World Series, Venezuela is taking on
Texas today at seven am Pacific Standard time. Venezuela is
minus five hundred while Texas is plus three fifty. But
you guys, got Jason, I'll start with you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Everything's better in Texas. I mean, I'm taking the plus
three fifty plus money. I'm always gonna bet on Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Let's come.

Speaker 8 (01:18:18):
They're slamming it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Play's the USA kind of guy. But you know what,
don going with Venezuela because I think they're hungry. I
think those kids really look at the major leagues and
they want to be there one day. So Texas, they're fat.
Their daddy's got money, he's an oil guy. I'm going
with Venezuela.

Speaker 9 (01:18:32):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (01:18:33):
It looks like we're splitting every game here, So this
is this is gonna be good. So off to the
twenty twenty four sinq Field Cup, which is actually a
it's a chess It's a chess tournament that's hosted annually
by the Saint Louis Chess Club. And get this, the
prize fund is three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So
for chess, for chess.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Yeah, I like games that you don't sweat and you
can sit on your ass. Yeah, that's what I like.

Speaker 8 (01:18:56):
We're in the wrong, We're in the wrong career. Let's
just say that, guys, Wesley so is taking on Ali
Reza Firiza today at eleven am Pacific Standard time. Wesley
is plus three fifty while Ali Reza is plus nine hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Am.

Speaker 8 (01:19:12):
I Andy, you are up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
I'm gonna go with Ali Reza. Ali because Ali ress
is that his middle.

Speaker 8 (01:19:18):
Name, Well, that's his list, that's his full first name.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
They'll definitely going And anybody's got a name like that
big time, all right. He probably has his own cape,
like you know, with these boxes, come up with a cape.
I bet he's got a cape. Before he takes his right,
he's got a cape.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Ali REGI.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
I'm gonna go with Ali Reza too, just because that's
a fun name to say. And that's this is how
we're making these determinations at this point. It's all about
fun names to say.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
I like I'm just happy that Jason's never heard of
these sports and know these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
I'm please believe me. Well, let's get into this next one.

Speaker 8 (01:19:52):
Maybe you guys might know this one off to the
Philippines for the Philipino Basketball Association Governor's Cup. These names,
they are a little bit easier. The nl EX road
Warriors are on the road taking on the Phoenix fuel
Masters right now. The road Warriors are plus one oh
five while the fuel Masters are minus one point fifty.

(01:20:13):
Who do you guys got Who's Jason?

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
I mean, look, anytime you give me the option for
road Warriors, I go road Warriors. That's just gonna be
the way that that happens. So I mean eighties wrestling
kidding me, I'm going Road.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Warriors, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
I was gonna go that way because I thought they
may be a derivative of the Golden State Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
But you know what, I'm not doing it because Jason
has it. I would not do it. I'm not gonna
favor him. I'm not going to this corner.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
I'm gonna go with the Phoenix Fuel Masters, Phoenix fuel
Misters for me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
All right, sweet, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Conclude the Room of Cooper Stole for him. We'll do
that next right here on Fox Sports Sunday. Hash he
done enough, that's coming right up. Good morning, everybody. This
is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports right. He's Jason
Fitzit for Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman and we up
broke casting live from the ti iraq dot com studios
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having fun?

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Yet, man, how can you not have fun? It's a
Sunday morning. We're having a beautiful time together. We get
to hang out. I mean, look, nobody's as cool or
as good looking as Bucky. But like, I'm trying to
fill some big shoes here, just trying to fill some big.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Shoes, you true, man. The only thing I'm missing right
now is a bagel. I wish I had a bagel
now for some reason. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Man, let me can I just like take you off
the rails for a second.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
But I've been on this super clean diet over the
course of the last several months of my life, and
like really cleaned up my eating and to change my
workout habits. And look, I've never been a big guy
to begin with, but I'm down thirty six pounds. I've
cut my body fat in half.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Like this is great. I'm on a journey. I eat
the same.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Regimented things five times a day every day. Bagels are
not on that list. And I'm telling you, of all,
come on, this bagel's imposter near to the top of
the Like I can live with that bread.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
I'm fine with that bread.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
But man, like golly like bagels in general, I just oh,
you stay bagel and cream cheese, and I'm just like, oh,
just little, a little salivating, like it's just it's what
you just did is you made my egg whites and
turkey bacon that I'm gonna eat in an hour and
a half.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Very Underwell, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
It's funny you talk about staying in shape. And I
met a New Year's resolution.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
I used to run. I used to I used to
love to run.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
I ran in a couple of ten k's melodic ten k's,
actually never ran in a twenty six mile marathon with
a lot of ten k's, and then I just wore
out my my hips. I got two new hips several
years ago, so I got to find something else. So
I met a resolution. The first of the year. I
got one of those bikes, so I watched TV while
I do my bike. I think I missed maybe maybe

(01:22:42):
ten days since the first of the year doing a
bike at least an hour a day, maybe an hour
and a half every single day. So it's got me.
It keeps me in shape, which is great. I kind
of stay around one seventy eight to eighty two. That's
my my role, My my rains, right now so I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Things are good. Yeah, no, that's good.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
By the way, like ten thousand steps is the thing
for me, like every I mean I lived six days
a week, but like ten thousand steps every day, non negotiable.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Have to get that in.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
And it's been so like the walking has actually been
really nice. I've learned to find peace in going on
a nice day to go a little walk as the
sun comes up or goes down.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
There you go, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
And I would say this about athletes, which I am
not an athlete, but one of the toughest decisions and
I don't think the public realizes it or cares, or
maybe should they care, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Is when an.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Athlete starts to decline, we watch them play. It's just
it's pitiful, it really is. And they have to make
that decision to say, you know what, it's over because
I can't fight for the time. I just can't do it.
And it happened the other day when Joey Vado, formerly
of the Cincinnati Reds, now playing Buffalo Monor League team
for the Toronto Blue Jays, just said, hey, you know

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it's over. I'm retiring, but going back to seeing athletes
I remember when when Yogi Berra tried to come back
with the New York METSA was pitiful, when Willie Mays
tried to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
It's just you don't want to remember guys like that.
You just don't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
I mean, I remember in the heyday and when they
try to come back and struggle and discussed. I'll tell you,
I'll give you a quick story and we'll go continue.
But I used to go to Cooperstown a lot, almost
every summer because I used to go to summer camp
near there, up an upstate New York. I remember walking
the streets in Cooperstown. On Main Street, I saw Cleek Boyer.
It's a tremendous, stirred basement. When I was a kid

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playing for the New York Yankees, and I said to myself,
is that Cleete Boyer. He must have weigh three hundred
and fifty pounds. It was amazing. He was hawking books
on Main Street in Cooperstown. And I said, I don't
want to remember him like that. I mean, I want
to get out of my memory. And now every time
I hear the name Cleete Boyer, I'm thinking of him.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
That's what I see.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
I see that picture of a big load a balloon,
and I don't want to do that. It's crazy, I
know it is, but that's the way it is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
Yeah, And it's the hardest part for athletes, in my mind,
is that in many ways, it's what you've done your
whole life.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
For me, I'll never forget my last concert.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
I was making the conscious decision I wanted to leave
the music business because I had an opportunity to go
work for ESPN, so like it was a dream come
true for me, so I had no regrets. But I
remember so distinctly my last show with the Van Perry
was the Alaska State Fair and it was cold and
it was rainy, like, it was gross outside.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
The crowd wasn't all that great, like, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
Just there was a tin roof above us where we
were playing that they were trying to keep us like
dry under. It was so low that when I was
playing fiddle, like I had to watch because my bow
was hitting the roof, that's how low it was. And
it was just this awful, crappy show. And I remember
walking off stage and telling my buddies in the band,
I was like, God, I'm so glad this was my
last show because it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Made it really easy.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
Like two weeks before that we played The Garden sold out, right,
So like if that had been my last show, I
think there's a twinge of you that's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Like, oh, I should go back and keep doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
But like I got to pick my out, and for
that reason, I've never regretted it. When I go back
to play now, I don't have a twinge of doubt.
I'm just enjoying myself. For so many people, when you
don't get to pick your out, when you've football your
whole life, for basketball or baseball, your whole life, and
all of a sudden one day your body just doesn't cooperate. Well,
you didn't get to make this strategic decision, you didn't

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want to do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
You just you got replaced. And that's that's such a
different vibe.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
My friends that are no longer in the music business
because they were taking off gigs or because they stopped
selling records or any of those things, like they have
such sadness. And for me, because I got to choose
when I got out, I have such joy with it.
I think of that every time an athlete has to retire.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Oh, I'll tell you It's crazy, it really is, and
I don't see. You know, one of the few athletes
that kind of retired and came back and really was
pretty decent was Michael Jordan. When he came back with Washington,
he still average about twenty points a game. You know,
he didn't have what he had before. And that's why
I'm amazed when I see guys like Lebron James. She's
pushing forty years old and he's playing like thirty plus

(01:26:50):
minutes a game, almost forty minutes a game in the NBA,
and he's still somewhat dominating. He really is on a
bad team, but still he's too play. He's one of
the legends of our time. Certain guys have a certain don't.
But Joey Vado retired the other day, and I think
the question came up almost immediately, is he available?

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Is he ready? Is he a Hall of Famer? And
I looked at that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
I said, one of his great claims to fame is
that he played for one team for seventeen years, the
same team, the Cincinnati Reds. Other than that years, two
ninety four career batting average, four nine on base percentage.
You know, a great guy, respected guy, always friendly with
the media. I'm not so certain he's a Hall of
Famer twenty one hundred plus hits. What do you think
on that with Joey Vado?

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
The funny thing to me is the things, as you mentioned,
are things that we find joy in playing eighteen years
with the team.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Does that make you a Hall of Famer? Is that
a requirement to be in the Hall of Fame? No?

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
And so to me, like you know, just the fact
that you stayed with one organization, Well, that's a slow
clap and I love that, and it really means something
to the city, and you mean something to the city,
and you mean something to the sport for doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
But is that alone a Hall of Fame candidate moment?

Speaker 10 (01:27:58):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
Now, the funny thing is you could look at a
bunch of the metrics, and this is where it gets
really nerdy, right, Like, I'm glad I'm not a Hall
of Fame voter. But you know, as they come in
and say seven thousand career of the players with seven
thousand career played appearances is four h nine on base percentage,
ninth best in the integration era, Like that tells you
how good the stats were. But here's the thing for me,
And this is the argument. I don't care what sport

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we're talking about when you talk hall of fame. This
is what I ask myself. When you saw that team,
did you stop? Did you tell your friends and your kids,
we got to watch this Wait, this guy's at bat,
this guy's playing. When you looked at the schedule, did
you say, oh, man, my favorite team's gonna lose that
game because we're taking on that guy. And as much
as I love the human being and as much as
I love the numbers, and you can make a stats

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case for him, for sure, I just never felt that
way about him as a player.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
So it's hard for me to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Make the justification that he's a Hall of Famer because
I don't think in thirty years people are going to
be sitting with their kids and their grandkids and saying, yeah,
you might be watching this guy, but I watched Joe
Evado and that hit different, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
You know, it's funny mentioned that, because certainly stats are
a great barometer, and the voters will be using the stats,
but I think there's other things that I really decide
what a Hall of Famer is, and I would hope
that those people who vote would think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Number one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
I think they would say, is he the kind of
guy if I'm at a ballgame, I refuse to go
get a beer or go to the toilet because he's
going to be up there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
I want to watch that. That's the key.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
And I don't think Joey Voada was that kind of guy.
Ken Griffy Jr. Was you know, I would never leave
my I would never leave my seat when Ken Griffory Junr.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Came to the plate.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
But with Joey vado I would. I mean with most
of most of the time, he'd walk, you know, and
he wasn't that kind of a guy. So those are
some of the things I think that you put into
perspective what he does.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
More than that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
I remember once, and look, I'm not trying to throw
out names over here, but I got to know p
Rose really well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Why.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
I was a pr guy at a racetrack in northern Kentucky,
Latonia Racecourse, and he came out there every single night,
you know, in the winter time when they when they
weren't playing. So Pete and I became pretty close and
we talk about this many times, and he said, here's
my deal. On the Hall of Fame. If you don't
get it on the first time, you should never get
in at all, because you just don't get better. He said,

(01:30:09):
I don't know why guys keep on putting their name
on the ballot if they don't get in the first time,
because you don't improve in years being on the ballot.
You didn't get you were good enough the first time,
you just shouldn't get it in at all. I mentioned
this to Rob Parker the other day.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
He agreed. He's a Hall of Fame voter.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
He says, if the guy doesn't get in the first
time and I voted for him, I ain't voting for
him again because if it wasn't good enough to get
in the first time, he shouldn't get in at all.

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
That's a I mean, it's a really strong it's a
really strong case, you know, I mean absolutely, I can't
imagine how.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Difficult that is. By the way, you know, I guess
the argument is that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
What each each person, if I'm correct, can vote for
ten people ten every ballance, right, So I guess the
argument is that you didn't get better, but maybe your
competition got less. But also should that be a reason
you get into the Hall of Fame, Like I never
wanted to win a Grammy in my life because it
was the year that nobody put out a good record.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Like that's not kind of that's just not how you
run things, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
So I think that there's a little bit of an
element of truth to that. I cannot imagine though for
a player, just getting in is all that matters. It
doesn't matter when it happens. I cannot imagine not having
that opportunity. If it doesn't happen, you're one. But let
me ask you this, how different do you think the
voting process would be if every person knew.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
That it's one and done on the vote, Like, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
The voters would approach it much differently in every sport
if they knew, Man, this is the only chance you
get to.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Vote on this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
So if he doesn't make it now, he doesn't make
it ever Like that that would change the responsibility of
voting so much. Because I don't know any Major League
Baseball voters that I talked to about the voting process.
I know a couple of voters, but I've talked to
a bunch of Hall of Fame voters in the NFL side.
And then people will tell you that they understand, like, well,
maybe this guy's not going to make it this year,
but they'll make it next year the year after when

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it's a weaker class.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
Like, I don't know that that's the healthiest process.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
I'm with you one thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
I'll tell you why. Even Rob Parker mentioned this. He
says he talked to various voters.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
When they see a.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Guy's name on there for the last time, the tenth
time he's on the ballot and he's not going to
be on to be thrown off the ballot that year,
is well, you know he is his last shot. I'm
I'm going to vote because there's his last shot on
the back. That's not a way to vote for a guy. Now,
another thing that's a flaw as far as I'm concerned
with baseball and the voting process is his Veterans Committee.
Why is Bill Manasarowski a Hall of famer because he's

(01:32:22):
good friends with the Old Bud, the Old Boy Network,
the Veterans, and I taught Davey concepts. The own is
not a Hall of Famer, but Bill Nasarowski is. I Mean, look,
I guess every system and every business is flawed to
some extent, but this is pretty well flawed. The voting
system for Major League Baseball and the Hall of Fame.
It's just don't I don't understand that. I really don't,

(01:32:45):
and I understand how some guys could get in. And
the Veteran Committee, to me, is a backdoor entrance, which
is weak.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
That's just weak. It really is taking care of the
bold boys.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
And when you've gone through the voting process so many times,
it's like, there's a reason there's a voting process. Why
is there a Veterans committee other than to try and
clean up them as to somebody that they think deserves
to be in. And that's just sort of backwards to
the whole thing. And I think we also have to
understand that the voting process in general is taken so
seriously by everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
It's not like you're sitting there saying.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
Well, they didn't get in, because you know, everybody's not
not really participating at the same level. Again, I can't
speak to a Hall of Fame vote, but I have
had for much of my life a Grammy vote, And
you know, I have a Bolitanikoff Award vote in college
football for the best wide receiver, and I take all
of that incredibly seriously, Like I talk to people, I
listen to everything in the grammy side, I watch everything

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on the football side, Like I take that incredibly seriously.
I know Hall of Fame voters do also, So how
is someone even getting to the vet committee if it
presumes that the people voting year and in year out
just didn't take the job seriously and somebody slipped through
the cracks like that doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
Yeah, and most of the veterans that are getting in
aren't deserving of the Hall of Fame anyway. I'm telling you,
they're just good old buds. The only thing Bill Mazerowski
has done that I remember is the fact that in
nineteen sixty he beat the Yankees in the World Series
with that home runner Ralph Terry. That's his claim the fame,
you know. And no one ever gets into the Baseball
Hall of Fame because they're quote a great defensive player.

(01:34:14):
Great defensive players don't get into the Hall of Fame.
You could be the you know, the worst defensive player
in the world, and if you're bat three twenty lifetime
with four hundred plus home runs, you're getting into the
Hall of Fame. If it can't catch a baseball, that's
the way it is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
And you're absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
But I was looking at the class of twenty twenty
nine because that's the time Joey Vada will be eligible
to get into the Hall of Fame, and he's going
against me, Will Cabera and Zach greenk. I just look,
he may get in one day. I don't think he's
a Hall of Fame, but he may very well get in.
But certainly I don't think he's getting in on the
first ballot.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
That's for certain Yeah, and then it does I only
wonder what that means for everybody, Like the Hall of Fame,
when you've gone through that many years of it, what
does it feel like when you finally get the called
you if you're relief, do you feel some level of
you know, you're disappointed in the way the process went down, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
I just I can't imagine any of that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Like, at the end of the day, you're Hall of Famer,
maybe you don't give an in, but that would be
very difficult for me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
I'm with you. Look, you want to be a Hall
of Fame and that's great, but you know, he do
it the right way. And I don't want to bad
now Joey Vado. Just my take, I don't he's lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
He's lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
I don't have a vote because I don't think i'd
vote for him, That's all I'm saying. And I don't
think i'm alone. I mean, he's got some great numbers.
He was a great player, but he wasn't a super player.
There's a difference between the level he was at and
the next level, which is a Hall of Fame level.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
All right, That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
And again, if you're looking at the Cincinnati Reds and
that big Red Machine era bet in seventy five and
seventy six and Davey concepts, you on to me, was
one of the greatest shortstops ever to play the game
of baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
And he's not in the Hall of Fame. Something's wrong there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
That entire team is just about in the Hall of
Fame except Pete Rose and that's another story. But Johnny
Bench is in there. They're all in there, and just
I don't know why Concepcion's not.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Is there anything that fixes that?

Speaker 9 (01:36:03):
To you?

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
Though, Like at this point that it's sort of like
the damage is done. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
I don't know either. I mean, I don't know if
a conception you could get on the Veterans Committee or not.
But you know, there's certainly something should be done. But
you know, I think it's all about people, you know,
working for I remember when Tony Perez did not get
into the Hall of Fame on several attempts. Then he
finally did. I think he hired Now I maybe I'm
pretty sure of this. I'm not going to bet my
life on it, but I remember I got some material

(01:36:30):
in the mail, and he hired a firm to promote
him to get into the Hall of Fame. He eventually
got in. And I'm not saying he wasn't a Hall
of Famer. He'd be probably is a Hall of Famer,
and certainly more so than Joey Vado, and he is
in the Hall of Fame right now.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
But I know he hired some sort.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Of an agency to promote his cause to get into
the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
Yeah, and that's not uncommon. What to do that, Yeah,
whatever it takes to get the consideration you need. For sure,
I just can't imagine having to hire someone to you know,
speak on my behalf. But whatever it takes, because it
certainly changes your life. What you're able to put that
hof next to it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
No doubt about that. Okay, he's the Hall of Fame himself.

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Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Let's go bring it a run.

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Speaker 9 (01:38:28):
Ran one of guys from a hot Fort Minds, Florida
home with Dion Sanders.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
Glad to talk to you.

Speaker 9 (01:38:36):
Thank you being for you. I wanted to know if
you guys. You guys both said you didn't play sports.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
I tried.

Speaker 9 (01:38:42):
I was no good, but you know it was what
it is. Would you rather have the Hall of Fame
jacket being the Baseball Hall of Fame, the NBA Hall
of Fame or win a ring? That's my first question.
The second question is looking at guys who destroyed their
career and Andy, you're from New York. I always want
if the Dwight Goodin or Strawberry could have gotten in there,

(01:39:02):
how things would have been. That's all I have. I'll
take you off the line.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Thanks, all right, as far as that, go ahead, Jane,
I'll follow up, but that we do a Hall of
Fame and would you rather have a ring? Well, you
do get a ring if you go to the Hall
of Fames, you get both.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
Really, but go right ahead, man, that's a tough one,
the ring or the Hall of Fame jacket, because you know,
the Hall of Fame jacket means that you sustain success
at the highest possible level for the longest time and
that people genuinely respect what you do. The championship ring
can mean so much, but you can also win a
championship ring on a team that maybe you weren't the
biggest part of it, maybe you weren't the best part

(01:39:36):
of it. So I mean, I think I'll go back
to something that Nick Saban and Mike Krychevski both teach
their kids when they were coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Now formerly, one of the principles they always taught was
never worry about being the best.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Always worry about being your best, because the best is
variables you don't control, right like, you can't control if
you did your best and somebody else was simply better
than you that day, that's going to happen. Sometimes I
live by the principal would be my best at everything
that I can be, every single day. So I think
the Hall of Fame jacket, I control that far more
than I control winning a chip.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
So even though the.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
Ring is enticing, the Hall of Fame jacket means I
did everything the right way every single day.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
I would take that over the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I think, well, I'm going to jump on your back
and say that I worked for the Robbie family in
Florida several years, and I did work as a pr
guy for the four Little of Theale Strikers in the
Miami Dolphins. And when I think of a guy with
a Hall of Fame jacket who didn't get a ring,
I'm thinking of Dan Marino. So and I love Dan Marino.
I think he was great, and he was the godfather
of the forward pass. So I think I'd rather get
the jacket. I think I'd rather get the jacket in

(01:40:35):
the ring, which the legacy is right there, and everybody
knows Dan Marino. Then, you know, when you talk about
Dan Marine, I don't think many people even realize he
didn't win the Super Bowl, but it didn't play in one.
But the point is that he was a great quarterback
and it will always be known as a great quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
So we leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
As far as what hall of fame, I guess the
hall of fame that the sport that I play in,
that's the hall of fame I want to be in.
But I think the hall of Fame that really carries
maybe the most weight is only Baseball. Although they're foolish
enough to have the ceremonies during the regular season when
games are being played, where other sports have them on
a separate date and stand alone. I wish baseball would
be small enough to do something like that. But I

(01:41:12):
think the Baseball Hall of Fame really and truly probably
has more history towards it too as well.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
History is such a huge part of how baseball fanatics
consume the sport. I think that has to be part
of that too. You know, like when you think about
baseball guy in general, baseball Guy's gonna come at you
with a stat from the fifties or sixties.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Sometimes you know, and then just the history means something.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
If you look at the modern NFL, how many people
right now watching the NFL will turn around and say,
you know, Brady and mahomes the best ever and have
no concept And I'm not saying they aren't, but they
have no concept of Marino or Lway or Montana or
go further back.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Well, you brought up earlier today about Sydney, right, it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
Like it's just such a The past of the NFL
looks so different than the current of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
It feels like two different sports, right, So I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
I think the weight of the Baseball Hall of Fame,
because of the history that really rules that sport, is
the most impactful. And frankly, I think the NBA Hall
of Fame, the Basketball Hall of Fame, I should say,
is the least impactful because it is the Basketball Hall
of Fame. So you can accomplish great things in college
or in Olympic basketball and get in even if your
NBA career didn't really warrant. It's that gets confusing for people.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
So and the hall of glow shotters of the Basketball
Hall of Fame. It's just basketball, period, That's what it is.
All Right, We've got to Michael admitted Snoda. Michael, you're
on with Jason Fitz on Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 10 (01:42:31):
Hey, how you guys doing this horning good?

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
We're great?

Speaker 9 (01:42:33):
How are you, Bob doing good?

Speaker 10 (01:42:36):
Back to the whole Choey Vato is a Hall of Fame?
Or can he get in on a first ballot? If
you don't get in on one, you shouldn't or maybe
you know, I just want to bring up Edgar Martinez.
Took him nine or ten years to get in. Definitely
a Hall of Famer, But should they have dropped him
after one year? And they renamed the Designated Hitter Award

(01:42:57):
after him and still took him nine or ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
To get in?

Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
And I think the problem being a DH You know,
people want to see regular guy. When Mariano Rivero got
any guy on the first ballot one hundred percent, its
scratched a lot of people's heads because you know, he
wasn't an everyday player, He wasn't a full time player,
so to speak. He was a specialist and baseball has
these specialists. But I think the younger voters are seeing

(01:43:21):
that right now. And that's why the sport is morphing
into that you could be a DH and be a
Hall of Famer. You can that there are certain guys
that could do that, you know. It's just the way
the sport has been morphed into.

Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
It really has.

Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
Yeah, well, but I mean, and then you talk about
specializing that, there's there's no better there's no better example
of that in the NFL than the Ray Guy Award,
right Like, you got punters out there and it took
Ray how long to get in? You know, you think
about sort of certain specialized systems that you can be
the best ever at what you do. It doesn't necessarily
mean that you're a surefire Hall of Famer, you know,

(01:43:54):
and that that's unfortunate, but it's just part of the
way the game is the Hall of Fame game, I
should say, is played. I do wonder too in that
example again, to go back to what we said, if
you only had one year of eligibility, would there would
it have been a nine year system? I don't know,
you know, that's just that that's what people have approached
it differently, with less patients to the specialization.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
If they thought they only had one chance to vote
for them.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
And look, I'm sure a lot of people have gotten
into the Hall of Fame Baseball Hall of Fame. That is,
when they're on the ballot for the very last time
and voters are saying, well, if I don't vote for
them now, we'll never get in Soday they vote for them,
you know, but why didn't you vote for them the
first time? But that's just the way I'm sure that
many have gotten in. So you just don't know, you know,
this system is. It's never going to be perfect, all right,

(01:44:40):
But I just think that's a major flaw of the system.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
I really do, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
Jason Fitz Andy Furman, this is Fox Sports Sunday on
Fox Sports Radio. Now, the question is will NFL players
be participating? Well, that's coming up next live for the
ti iraq dot com studios. But first, this guy's always
participating every single Sunday, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
Why we have to participating?

Speaker 7 (01:45:00):
Yes, and we've had plenty of players up participating in
college football. On Saturday Week zero, we already got ourselves
a top ten upset man College football is back as
Georgia Tech goes to Ireland takes down the number ten
ranked Florida State Seminals, winning it on a field goal
forty fourty yard field goal at the final seconds. Final

(01:45:21):
score in that one twenty four to twenty one. And
for Georgia Tech, the last time they had a top
ten win was back in twenty fifteen against Florida State,
Nevada losing to SMU after the Mustangs get sixteen points
late in the fourth quarter to win it twenty nine
to twenty four. Montana State are season's first FCS over

(01:45:42):
FBS upset. They go to New Mexico and win it
thirty five to thirty one behind three fourth quarter touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Hawaii the last game of the night out in Honolulu.

Speaker 7 (01:45:52):
Delaware State missed their plane getting out there, but they
didn't make it in time for the game, but didn't
go well should they yes? With how it went fourteen,
the Rainbow Warriors win it. On Saturday. Major League Baseball
Dodgers have their winning streak snapped at five games by
the Tampa Bay Rays. Tampa Bay with home runs of

(01:46:13):
the ninth and tenth inning to win it nine to eight.
In the Diamondbacks taking advantage of that, they get their
fifth straight win as they beat the Red Sox four
to one. Padre Is unable to take advantage. They followed
them at seven to one, So the Dodgers a three
game lead over Arizona, four and a half on San Diego.
In that American League Central, the Cleveland Guardians have a

(01:46:34):
two game lead. That's after they demolished the Texas Rangers
thirteen to five. The Twins keep paced with a six
tozering shutout win against the Cardinals. The Royals do lose, however,
to the Phillies at Real Mo to two home runs
to help lift Philadelphia to an eleven to victory. So
Cleveland leads both Minnesota and Kansas City by two games.

(01:46:56):
That American League East has been seasawing for much of
this year, and once again the Yankees have just a
half game lead a top of that division. That's after
they lose to the Rockies nine to two. The Orioles
do take down the Houston Ashers three to two, and
in the Little League World Series, the championship game is
set three o'clock Eastern time over in williams Port. It'll

(01:47:17):
feature Taiwan facing Florida for the Little League World Series title,
and in the WNBA, Caitlin Clark in action on a Saturday,
she had twenty three points eight assists, but the fever
to lose to Minnesota ninety to eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
Back to you guys, all right, Ken, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
People will do the same functions and jobs in life,
don't necessarily get paid the same. We'll talk about that
in just about a minute. He's Jason Fitz Andy furmanw
weel Fox Sports sounding on Fox Sports Radio. We've got
the blame game coming up in about seven eight minutes
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(01:47:56):
to also follow rate and review the podcast. Again, search
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this show Fox Sports Sunday posted right after we get
off the air. Now, why do I bring that up
about doing the job the same job as someone else,
you don't get paid the same. Because Jamar Chase, receiver
for the Cincinnati Bengals, he wants four years of one

(01:48:16):
hundred and sixty MILI. That's an extension on his contract
with the Cincinnati Bengals. But he has two years left
on his contract. So I ask you, this is it
the only way to get I guess sports is the
only business out there where you have to sit out
to change your contract. Try that in any bit of business.
Try that in our business. Say we go to management tomorrow,

(01:48:38):
say I got a contract. I want to rip it up,
and you know redo, you know, they'll say, there's the door,
go ahead, sports, And I guess you gotta do it
that way, otherwise you're not going to get a new deal.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
But I don't know why people don't honor that contract.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
I get it. You know, the next play you can
be finished for live you get injured. I get that,
But one hundred and sixty MILLI wants one hundred and
twenty of it guaranteed. And look, he's sitting out.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
What else can he do? What else can he do?
He has not played in one game.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
Thus far this preseason for the Cincinni Bengals, and he's
got a history of doing this because his junior year
at LSU. I guess for COVID he didn't play as well,
he sat out. So I don't understand that. I just
don't understand the whole situation. It's a turnoff to me.
I think it's so much selfish, selfish to your teammates.
And honestly, if you talk about a guy who should

(01:49:27):
be peeled with their contract, what about brock Party, the
forty nine ers quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
He's been real quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
About his and he only made eight hundred and eighty
nine thousand last year.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
Think about that for a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
You're right that Brock absolutely would have every right to
do the same thing. The hard part in the league
is that guys understand their value more than ever, and
they understand that when a team's done with them, the
team will be done with them. Jamar is not gonna
have to worry about that at any point soon. But
let's be real. If to use your example, you and
I go to management, were up a kite going to

(01:50:00):
absolutely throw us away right like, there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
But we're being real about Jamar.

Speaker 4 (01:50:05):
He knows he has the leverage right now, and if
he uses the leverage right now, he can make as
much money as possible right now.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
And when you have a limited earning window, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
It's just sort of the way if you have the leverage,
considering the fact that the league will always use the
leverage if they have it on you, why not use
the leverage if you have it on them.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
It's a rare situation to be in.

Speaker 4 (01:50:25):
But if you're Jamar and you actually control your destiny financially,
I mean, if you and I had the chance to
go to management and say, you know what we want
to raise and.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
We know that we would get it, would we do it?
I probably would, like.

Speaker 4 (01:50:36):
So that's the hard part about I don't disagree with
doing concept that. You know, it's a tough look. But
I'm also looking at and saying I don't know, man like,
if I could do it, I would. If I knew
that I was gonna get way more money to do it,
I'd do in the heartbeat.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
CD lamb led the league in receptions last year. He's
the guy who deserves the money. He's a ring lader,
justin Jefferson gots some big time money.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
He really did.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
And again I'll say this, people who do the same
function in life, and they do the same job in
life do not get paid the same. You could be
a news anchor on a TV station in Minnesota and
a news anchor on a TV station in LA and
the guy in the Elie's probably gonna get more money
than you, and Minnesota, you're doing the same function.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
You may be even working harder than him.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
So you could do the same function as someone else
does not necessarily mean you're gonna get paid the same
as someone else, just just.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
The way it is.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
No, you're right about that one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
But if you know that you're in a situation where
you know, if you're walking onto a set somewhere, if
you're walking onto a stage somewhere, you're walking into your company,
if you're walking into your company, and you know that
everybody else is making you know, everybody else that does
your job as well as you do is making more.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Money, then you're gonna go ask for a raise.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
And this is the one time that you know you've
got somebody that can come in and say, I'm gonna
ask for a raise. And by the way, if you
don't give it to me, I'm just not gonna I'm
not gonna practice, I'm not gonna put my body at risk.
I mean, this is this is sort of the leverage
opportunity that he has by being in the situation, that is,
by being so stinking good, Right, that's the other part
of it, like he knows he's great, he knows that

(01:52:05):
he's got them, and it's rare for anybody to turn
around and really have any leverage against the league, against
the team.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
But when you're one of the five best at your position, man, Like,
this is just a new era.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
This isn't you know the eighties, nineties, two thousands, where
you know, players had no opportunity to be their own businessman.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Players now more than ever, understand their value.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
And I think you're only going to see more and
more of this as we look at a college generation
that's growing up right now in a name Him his
Likeness world that truly understands, Hey, every single year, I
want the opportunity to renegotiate. Like, that's going to be
interesting to see what happens when we get this generation
of athletes becomes professional and then they're sitting around with
the team saying, I don't care about the contract, just

(01:52:46):
like you don't care about the contract if you can
cut me at any time. Like the real answer to this,
if the NFL hates it, is make all contracts fully guaranteed.
Then all of a sudden, nobody can nobody from either
side can yell at each other like you're signing something
fully garan. It won't be renegotiated and it will be
paid in full. But that the league is going to
push back on that every single time.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
You know, when I think about people sitting out, I
have the vision of Le'Veon Bell back in twenty eighteen
with the Stealers.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
He said, what did that get him?

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
Why would you sit out and lose an entire year's
contract and plus on the entire year of your skill set.
I don't understand me where these people get this advice from? Really,
and to me, I get it. I know he's making
twenty six meal this year, Jamar chases and he's not
looking for his next meal?

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
Is it an egle?

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
Thing?

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Is because someone in his position is getting more than
he is and he thinks he's better than them. I
don't understand why. It's like you could live very nicely
on twenty six million dollars. You really can, so what's
the big deal? And you're hurting your team by trying
to ask for more pieces of the pie because there's
nothing left for anyone else.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
And I remember after that Baltimore Ravens won the Super.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Bowl when Joe Flappo backed up his truck and took
all the money and no one else had anything left
for them, and that's why the Ravens went down the
tube after that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
Yeah, but the counter to that is that somebody right
now that is working their tail off at a job
that's making forty grand a year will look at somebody
making one hundred and fifty years say hey, like, what
are you complaining about? But you know how many people
right now making one hundred and fifty year are sitting
there saying, well, you know, I really should take less
because it will help my company. Like that's what we're
asking the athlete to do in this situation, Tom.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
Brady did, Brady.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
But yeah, well that's one person, you know, And some
people certainly have the right.

Speaker 4 (01:54:29):
Like if you love working for Google and you want
to make less money, but because it helps Google.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Good on you.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
But that shouldn't be the standard for everybody. And you're right,
twenty six million is obviously generational wealth. But also if
I look around, I'm like, well, twenty six million, I
know my worth, Like so many young people I work
with say the phrase all the time, know your worth.
And there is some power to this to looking around
saying I think I'm one of the five best, and
I'm not paid like one of the five best, I
never have to work again, Like, so I'm not going

(01:54:56):
to I've got buddies in the music business that were
very successful that never have to work again, And every
time somebody comes to them with an opportunity, if it's
not exactly perfect, they simply don't do it. Doesn't mean
they don't love music, No, it means that they just
don't have to do it because they don't have to
do anything. So Jamar Chase doesn't have to do anything anymore.
You can walk away from the game if he wants to.
Got twenty six million dollars You're making in the bank.

(01:55:18):
You've made so much money, so now it really is
to know you're worth society. And I just like, look,
if you and I took less money, Fox Sports Radio
would be really happy. But are we going to take
less money to keep Fox Sports Radio happy?

Speaker 8 (01:55:30):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Would it make for a better team, Yes, are we
gonna do that?

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
So, like I can't hold Jamar to a different standard
than I would hold myself to.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
I hear that I don't have an answer for this.
I just don't like looking at it. I think it's
a turnoff for teammates. I think it's a turnoff for fans,
and maybe some teammates are running form. I don't know
the inner workings of the locker room there, but I
just don't think it's a healthy environment by doing something
like that with a team. All right, he's Jason Fitz.
I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio. It is time eight the gloves off, point

(01:56:01):
your finger. Why the blame game is freaking next? The
blame game coming right up. It's about eleven minutes now
before the top of the hour. He's Jason fitzin for
a bucket Brooks on Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports
Sunday of Fox Sport's ready and we're lying for the
Tyrock dot Com studios.

Speaker 3 (01:56:16):
Let's play the blame game with me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
It's all your fault, it's your fault. What is all
your faulty?

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Maybe it's everyone's faults.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
She's a liar. That's why there's the blame game, the
blame game.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
Let's figure out who to blame.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
He's a liar.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Shasha's a liar. Go ahead, Shay she take care of it.

Speaker 8 (01:56:39):
Welcome into the blame game, guys, the game where I
tell sports stories from around the world and Jason and
Andy tell me who they blame. Let's get right into it.
There's never been a better time for women's sports in
this country. The most American medallists. Oh sorry, the WNBA
is exploding in popularity, the NWSL is on the rise.

(01:57:00):
Women won most of America's medals at the high profile Olympics.
So why is women's field hockey bombing out?

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
Who is to blame? Andy?

Speaker 8 (01:57:07):
Even start with you?

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
Oh that's easy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
First of all, the women's field hockey team was won
three and one in Paris, so they stunk, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
And more than that, you need a face for the sport.
I don't know who to face.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Is get a good look, good woman for a face
of the sport who could play the game of field
hockey and maybe someone will follow them.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
That's what they need. Other than that, no one cares.

Speaker 8 (01:57:28):
Jason.

Speaker 4 (01:57:28):
I mean, how many people would it take to have
great growth in field hockey viewership like six? I mean,
how many people actually pay attention to this. I'm being
you know, sarcastic here, but I'm also sort of not like, look,
I hear all the time from everybody the growth of
lacrosse obviously, and obviously that's happening, that's all over the place,

(01:57:51):
But it just takes.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
A long time to bubble up.

Speaker 4 (01:57:53):
I think we have to remember that the WNBA even
has been bubbling up for a very long time, Like
it takes several years of simmering, like a good suit,
and then all of a sudden, you got to have a.

Speaker 1 (01:58:01):
Superstar come in.

Speaker 4 (01:58:02):
So I don't know who's to blame, necessarily, I just
don't know who's watching. I just I blamed the sport
as a whole because they just don't think people are
clamoring to watch field hockey at any level right now.
At least basketball is something that people at every level
have been watching for a long time. I don't know
a lot of people that are like, oh god, you
want to go to the field hockey match tonight, Like,
I just don't that doesn't exist.

Speaker 8 (01:58:23):
Miami don't even know if they play field hockey in
the spring of the fall.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
Really, I really don't. Is it a spring sport or
a full sport. I think it's full.

Speaker 8 (01:58:32):
I don't think anyone knows that, all right, next. Miami
of Ohio football head coach Chuck Martin has accused Alabama
of illegally recruiting All America placekicker Graham Nicholson. Alabama coach
Kaitlin Debauer denies. Andy.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
Uh, you know what, though, God bless Chuck Martin for
the Miami Hurricane. No, not the Hurricane. He's the RedHawks
Miami of Ohio. Because he's pointing a finger. Alabama probably
did go after that kicker before he even went into
the portal. So I'm gonna Chuck Moore. I like Chuck Morton.
He wouldn't have done this if he didn't believe in it.
And then when I asked Kaylen de Boor about that,

(01:59:16):
he says, I don't know what you talk about. Come on, really,
come on, you stole the kicker from Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
You are fulked.

Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
Hey, look I love it. Welcome to the big time coach. Like,
if you're gonna get out there and you're gonna, you know,
start stealing recruits, I love it. But risking anything for
a kicker makes no sense to me. Like we've gone
from you know, a spot where we sit here and
hear about Saban not even offering scholarships to kickers to
where like Kaylen de Bor is actually turning around and
like stealings, stealing kickers.

Speaker 9 (01:59:42):
So I don't know good.

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
You know who to blame here is Kayln de Bor,
But the real winner here is the kicker who now
gets to go to Alabama and live like a golden god.

Speaker 8 (01:59:53):
Colorado has banned Denver Post columnist Sean Keeler from asking
questions of football coach Dion Sanders or other members of
the football program. Who do you blame?

Speaker 4 (02:00:06):
I blame the sid and the athletic director of Colorado
Football for letting this happen. There's absolutely no world where
they should be able to block somebody because they don't
like the way the reporting is done.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
That person still has a job to do. You don't
have to answer their questions.

Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
But to tell them they can't even ask him, it's childish,
it's cowardly, and it absolutely shows that Colorado is not
in the big time of college football programs.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
Nick Saban would never have done the same.

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
I love Sean Keeler of the dev Post. I'm gonna
start reading him. He called Deon Sanders the Bruce Lee
of BS.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
I love this guy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
You know what, it's an embarrassment. Where's the president of Colorado?
How do you let this happen? It is ridiculous, It's unbelievable.
It's ridiculous. But wait till you hear this nil bombshell
that is so much more. Where Fox Sports Sunday right
here next. It's just not working. We'll explain that in
just about a minute. Good morning everyone of This is

(02:00:54):
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Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
How are his shoes?

Speaker 9 (02:01:20):
Man?

Speaker 4 (02:01:20):
The shoes are weight like Look, I got small feet,
like size nine nine and a half maybe you know,
like so his shoes are way too big for me.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
But feel was good man.

Speaker 4 (02:01:27):
We're hanging out like I feel like I'm doing a
nice job. And John Gray here like you're you're you're
doing all the real work. The driving out just making
sure the road trips snacks are good. I'm making sure
like I got the appropriate mix of salty and sweet
with the with the road trip snacks.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
Got a little beverage for you, like everything's good, you know,
making sure.

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
You deserve after the show. You just treat yourself to
a bagel after the show, really whites.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
And turkey bacon.

Speaker 4 (02:01:53):
And then I'm gonna go to but it's arms day,
so I'm gonna go make sure, you know, go make
sure my biceps look nice and pretty.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (02:01:59):
Now, I want to get back to this thing.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
We talked about the Colorado banning of the writer from
the Denver Post, Sean Keeler, because basically he's not permitted
to ask any questions to football staff and Deon Sanders,
and I like what he's done.

Speaker 3 (02:02:14):
This guy's pretty creative.

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
He called Deon Sanders the disposition, Dion Bruce leer Bs
a false prophet. I call him a planet Prime and
Dion kool Aid and circus. The ban is indefinite. This
is an unbelievable situation. If you're a sports pr guy,
and I was. I was a sports information guy at
the Oral Roberts University at Saint Francis College, New York.

(02:02:35):
I was a PR guy in sports and the pros.
You know your job can't get done. I mean, you're
you're caught in the middle. You're pulled from both ends.
But Deon Sanders apparently had this in his contract where
he could basically have say so over media.

Speaker 3 (02:02:49):
And he's got a history, he's got a history of
using his.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
Influence to band reporters from asking questions about the program.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
And I get that. I mean, you know what it was.

Speaker 2 (02:02:58):
Back in the twenty two twenty one the Mississippi Clarion
Ledger he bought a reporter from covering Jackson State when
he was coaching there. And it was the day after
the Clarion Ledger reported a story and published a story
relating to a court filing about a recruit that Dion
had who had been charged with assaulting a woman. Now look,
I understand that you could deny an answer, you could

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ask a question and say no comment, because we've seen
Bill Belichick do that and Nick Saban do that many times.

Speaker 3 (02:03:28):
But to ban the guy from even asking the question,
that's wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
And I don't know why the president of Colorado University
has not stepped in and say this makes us look bad,
It makes the program looks cheap and makes it look weak.
You just can't do that, and I don't understand why
Dion continues to do so. You know he's banned, And honestly,
you know, media people right now are probably giggling and
laughing behind Sean Killer's back. If I was in Denver

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right now and I was a news director or sports director,
I would get all the media people that cover Colorado
University and you know what, until you permit Sean Keeler
to ask questions to football staff people, and even if
they say no comment, but until you permit it to
ask questions, we're not covering Colorado football.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
How do you like that?

Speaker 3 (02:04:14):
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. What do
you think about that?

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
I mean, where is the blowback?

Speaker 4 (02:04:20):
Because look, Lincoln Riley did this last year with the
Reporter that he didn't like the tone of with USC
and they ended up having to come to a new agreement. Right,
but that was because the La Times clap back. Right,
Where where is the pushback to this? This is an
absolute joke in every way, shape or form, And look,
I can honestly say I've been on both sides of this.
When you sit in front of a microphone and you

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say things about players, sometimes you got to face them afterwards.
When they say things about coaches, sometimes you got to
face them about afterwards. And it's not always comfortable like that,
but that's part of the job, right And if you
if you're grown ask man, you can handle it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
If you're grown ask adult.

Speaker 4 (02:04:53):
You can have a conversation with somebody about why you
said what you said and they can understand it and
you don't have to come to an agreement.

Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
But you both have a job to do.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
I've also met on the side where in the music
business I played concerts or did things that I was
particularly proud of that was ripped apart by reporters that
I thought were absolutely they were idiots.

Speaker 1 (02:05:10):
And what do you do when you see them? The
next time? You let it go. You let go, let God.
You just got to put it behind you, and.

Speaker 4 (02:05:16):
You gotta trust your work, and you gotta trust what
you do. You can't worry about what somebody's writing or
saying about your performance.

Speaker 1 (02:05:22):
In general.

Speaker 4 (02:05:23):
If you were Dion Sanders, with all the power you
have right there, what you just sent was your entire
team a message that if you don't like the way
things are going, then you use that power to try
and change your situation by banning somebody from doing their job.
What example is that at the end of the day,
everybody disagrees with this concept. But I need to say
this loudly. At the end of the day, a college

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football coach is paid by a university, often by a
state university, to essentially be a air quotes teacher. They
are supposed to be a quote leader of men. So
the highest paid person in that state from a government
institution that is supposedly a teacher, is teaching the lesson
to people that you can be soft and sensitive about
what's being said and then you can wield your power

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ruthlessly to prevent somebody from doing their job.

Speaker 1 (02:06:08):
It's an abomination.

Speaker 4 (02:06:10):
It's an absolute moment where Colorado as a university has
to step in and control this at some level. And
if they can't, shame on them, Shame on Dion, Shame
on everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
It makes you look weak, it makes you look small,
it really does. Just say no comment, but I tell
you what, I've been down that road before. When Sam Weischman,
he Rest in Peace, was coaching the Cincinnati Bengals. He
didn't talk to me for a long time. Then we
finally broke bread. It was okay, But the worst for
me was when Bob Huggins was coaching University of Cincinnati basketball.
He claimed that I was hurting his recruiting. I mean,
that was we think. And they took my press pass
away from me eventually, But I was lucky. I worked

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at WLW Radio, a big radio station in Cincinnati for
about eighteen years, fifty thousand watch Giant, and we carried
the Reds, we carried the Bengals, we carried all the
college sports, and they backed me. Randy Michaels, who was
a great man in radio, and he went after Cincinnati
and I got my pass back and he told me
to go sit in the stands when I took the
pass away.

Speaker 3 (02:07:02):
So it was fun.

Speaker 2 (02:07:03):
I mean it was really at the time, was you know, crazy,
but it was fun. I look back now, but he backman.
It's very rare that you get someone to back you
when a coach or school goes ahead and does something
like that, because you know, money's involved to have a
contract to broadcast the games and things like that, and
they didn't want to rock the boat. But Randy Michael's
God bless him, he backed me. I got my pass back.

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Everything was fine, and Bull Huggins and I now today
we get along. Coaching was coaching West Virginia. But I
understand that. I understand what's going on. But I feel
bad for the sports information guy. He's got to deal
with this. I mean, and how do you deal with
something like that. Let the guy come in, let him
ask the questions, and Dean, if you don't like the questions,
just say no comment. It happens all the time. But

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to band the guy and not let him ask a question,
that's ridiculous. We're in the year twenty twenty four. It
doesn't work like that now. You can't have that kind
of power and control. It's amazing what he's doing and
I can't believe it's being permitted. And a college can't
this no less, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (02:08:04):
And the hard part about it is, Look, I remember
last year working for Yahoo Sports, my other job, and
we were doing our college football wrap ups at the
end of the night and we found a couple of
weeks in that Frankly, if we mentioned anything with Colorado,
the numbers went through the roof. So we made sure
that we adjusted, and we made sure that we covered
every Colorado game from that point on. There was always

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a mention of what Colorado did not because we were
trying to force it down people's throats, as people falsely
think sometimes, but the opposite, like which came first to
chicken or the egg, people were paying attention to it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:34):
The problem is you can't if you live in that market.

Speaker 4 (02:08:37):
You can't really ignore this team because the personality that
runs it has become a juggernaut. The issue with that
is if you give that juggernaut that level of power,
you can never take it away.

Speaker 1 (02:08:48):
You can never walk it back.

Speaker 4 (02:08:49):
And now, even if even if you read what was
written and you think, you know what, Sky's a jerk,
even if that's your approach on it, the message that
has been sent to everybody else in the media is
that whenever he wants, he could take away that level
of power. And if you simply take away that level
of power at any time, now, it's going to change
the way everybody covers don because they.

Speaker 9 (02:09:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
You know, even Bob Knight, he would he humiliate you
with a news conference, but he wouldn't throw you out
and he would always answer you a question. He'd call
you a jerk, he said, I don't want to answer that,
but he would never say, don't talk to me.

Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
I mean right. I may he rest in peace because
I loved him too.

Speaker 4 (02:09:24):
Yeah, I think there's a level of when you understand
how much the people's livelihoods depend on it, how little
some of those guys make to do that work. Also,
and you think about what's on on the line form
if you're sitting there saying, man, I really want to
ask this tough question. But if I anger, if I
angered Dion, I might not lose I might lose my past.
I might not be able to do this anymore. I

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might lose my job, I might not be able to
feed my family. Like, is that the world we want
to go down? I don't understand how we manage to
do that in any way, shape or form, At a
time when journalistic integrity is more important than ever, in
a time when the listening and reading audience trusts journalism
less and less every single day. How can you trust

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anything anybody reports about Colorado? Now when you know that
it's reported, how a fear of reaction?

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
Wouldn't you love to see the other media people in Colorado,
at least the ones that cover Colorado football, band together
and say we ain't coming in, we're not covering any
of the games until you permit this guy to come
in and ask questions. Wouldn't that be great whenever happened.
I'd love to see that happen, though, Yeah, no, it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
Wouldn't, and you're right, it would be.

Speaker 4 (02:10:31):
The thing of it is, so often in these situations,
people that read it on social media, all they think
about is, well, it's coach versus some no name I
don't care about. I'm going to take the side of
my coach because I love my program. I just think
what you're not thinking about is the rest of the
repercussions that come from it. And you know, all of
a sudden, if nobody's covering Colorado, nobody's talking about Colorado.

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If we live in a world where you want in
a world, if you go to a world where you
only get essentially state media, if all you're getting is
what Colorado wants you to get, then you're never gonna
get honesty about your program.

Speaker 1 (02:11:02):
You're never gonna get real reporting about what's.

Speaker 4 (02:11:05):
Going on, and you're gonna end up with a situation
that frankly doesn't honor the team, doesn't honor the fan,
doesn't honor the program, like that's the inevitable future if
you don't clap back at some point. So I'm stunned
there hasn't been more pushback.

Speaker 1 (02:11:18):
I'm stunned that nobody's getting involved.

Speaker 4 (02:11:19):
And it just shows you the lack of power in
the INCI double LA because the NFL would never allow
this to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:11:25):
I agree with you there, And here's the situation right now,
because is a story coming out of Colorado just came
out the other day, and I'd love to have seen
Sean killer at least ask some questions, how does this happen?
Trevor Riley, former special teams coordinator at Colorado. He told
Jason Jones of Sports Illustrated, I'm surprised they let him
told the Sports Illustrated, but he told Jason Jones of
Sports Illustrated that he spent time in the Middle East

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trying to secure nil funds from Saudi Arabia's public investment
fund so they could get money at Colorado. He no
longer works there right now, but these are the things
that Sean Riley I mean, Sean Kile could go over
there and say, well, how did this happen? Why do
you do I mean, but they won't let him ask
any questions. I mean, now he's not even under staff anymore,

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Trevor Riley. But these are the things that the public
would like to know. They don't need to know, but
they certainly would.

Speaker 1 (02:12:14):
Like to know. Yeah, and you're right, And that's where
you've got to have.

Speaker 4 (02:12:18):
You've got to have a respected person in the room
that's fearless with asking journalistic questions. And I'm not a journalist,
I tell people all the time. I don't pretend to
be a journalist. I didn't have a journalism background. I
don't pretend to sit there and call myself a journalist
in any way, shape or form. And even I as
an opinion guy, feel like journalism is so wildly important
because it helps shapes the way we all look an opinion, right,

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Like it helps shape what.

Speaker 1 (02:12:40):
We actually see from a program.

Speaker 4 (02:12:42):
And if you don't have people asking tough questions, you
went up with a situation where suddenly years later you
find out about mistreatment, you find about issues, you find
out about controversy, and everybody's saying, well, how did this happen? Well,
it happened because there's no checks and balances. It's just
such a simple, important part of the way the world
is supposed to work. And I think it's it's just
absolutely crazy to me that as a society we scream

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about accountability to corporations, and we scream about accountability to
everybody that makes money anywhere, and then anytime you try
to have any accountability at all to a football coach,
then it screams you're just out to get him.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
I just I don't understand why the goalpost moved so hard.

Speaker 3 (02:13:20):
Well. Deion Sanders obviously has loved in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
I mean there was time that no one went to
their games and when he went over there, now there's
a waiting list for season tickets. I understand that he's
brought a lot of money into the schools, but the
money creates power, and he's got power to do just
about anything he wants to do with that school. He
hires coaches he wants to hire, and that's fine. I
mean other coaches do that as well, But you know
the fact that he has ruling over media. I mean,
come on, he didn't he throw the CBS affiliate out

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the other day, and last year CBS, the major CBS network,
sixty minutes did a two part thing on him, you know,
making it bigger than God. I mean, you can't do that.
You can't pick and choose media people. Some of you're
gonna like, You're not going to like some things they'll
say about you.

Speaker 8 (02:14:02):
You like, some of you don't like.

Speaker 3 (02:14:03):
Just just the way it is, just as the way
it is, Live with it.

Speaker 4 (02:14:08):
I would also say Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook have created
millions of dollars of revenue for the entire world, and
we still look at it constantly, even though with all
the power, we look at it constantly and we say,
oh my god, where the checks and balances report on this?

Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
Elon musk owning X at this point is.

Speaker 4 (02:14:22):
Such a conversation constantly, and we sit there and say, oh, well,
you know, look at all this power, look at everything
they can wield.

Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
There are still questions that need to and have to
be asked constantly.

Speaker 4 (02:14:30):
Just because Dion is producing revenue for Colorado and there
are lots of fans of there are lots of fans
of Facebook, there's lots of fans of Twitter too, Like,
just because you have fans, and just because you make
money for something doesn't mean that you are now beyond
reproach where you should not have to answer significant questions
about how you do what you do. That is part
of the process when you are a CEO. And Dion
is the CEO of the Colorado football program.

Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
And I hope this case is not closed. I hope
we hear more about this because to end it like
this and to have Sean Killer on the outside look
looking in, it's wrong. And there's gotta be ser some
repercussions over here with Dean Sanders. I hope this continues.
I just hope this is not the last we hear
about this story. He's Jason Fitz. You get him on Twitter,
get him on ex whatever you want to call it,
at Jason Fitz, at Andy Furman. Fso, I bet, hey,

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to comment. At eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox.
That translates to eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
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Speaker 3 (02:15:23):
We've got yay or nay in this hour.

Speaker 2 (02:15:27):
And by the way, one NFL quarterback needs to keep
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Speaker 3 (02:16:13):
Now, I say, you know I see better than we hear.

Speaker 2 (02:16:17):
You know they call this a quarterback controversy, and I
don't think there really was or ever will be a controversy.
I've thought about the Pittsburgh Steelers because Justin Fields I
said he'd go to keep his pieholes shut. He was
talking the other day of practice. I think I've shown
what I can do. This is what he said the
other day. I think the time that I did have
with the first team practicing and training camp. I think

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that went well. I think we grew with a lot
of each other. Just say, I'm trying my best. Whatever
happens happens. I mean, come on, there's no controversy because
when they signed Russell Wilson, there's the guy.

Speaker 3 (02:16:48):
Russell Wilson's the guy. Russell Wilson be the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:16:51):
By the way, I don't think that makes much of
a difference, my friend Jason Fitz, because this team right
now has one receiver in George Pickens. They have a
running game, and I think if they win, if they
do win, it'll be on defense. That's how they're gonna win,
all right. And the story Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (02:17:07):
So, I agree with you with what you just said,
but I think Justin Fields is gonna be the starter
week one.

Speaker 1 (02:17:12):
I don't believe that. Russ So. A couple of things.

Speaker 4 (02:17:16):
One, Arthur Smith is the offensive coordinator there, and the
offensive coordinator he used to be the offensive coordinator for
the Titans back in the day.

Speaker 1 (02:17:23):
And what is he like.

Speaker 4 (02:17:24):
He likes a guy he can roll out a lot.
Mariota was a good example of that. Somebody he can
be fluid, with even in Atlanta. As much as he
never utilized those weapons, fluidity matter to him. Being able
to be mobile matter to him. So I think that's
part one of it. Part two, there's very They have
essentially no cost in Russ right now. But if things
go great for us, then what you know, are you

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really going to sign somebody to a massive contract that
is cooked? And I think Russ is cooked. The other
side of it is Justin Fields at least is young.
They can see what they have in development standpoint. But
then the other part of it is Russ hasn't separated himself.
And Charles Robinson or Yahoo's Sports NFL, I asked him
on one of our shows last week if this was
still a contest in the air, and he said, yeah,

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no decision had been made yet. I genuinely believe Justin
Fields is going to be the starting quarterback. I think
Russ is absolute done. He's done, he's cooked, he's washed completely.
I don't know if Justin Fields is going to be good,
but at least Justin Fields with that offense, can run
around and try and make some plays, get some opportunity
with mobility to try and get something done. You're right,
the weapons stink. I don't think it makes a huge

(02:18:26):
difference in their win total, but I think justin Fields
starts week one.

Speaker 3 (02:18:29):
Yeah, and tell me, why do you think Russell Wilson's done?
Why has he finished?

Speaker 1 (02:18:33):
Well?

Speaker 4 (02:18:33):
I mean, look, we can't have it two ways when
it comes to Sean Payton. You can't be the great
Oh my god, you're going to get the most out
of bow Nicks because you are Sean Payton, the great
quarterback guru. And then all of a sudden, you're the
same guy that that essentially gave up on Russ, even
though it cost an arm in a lake to do it.
So one of the smartest quarterback minds we have in
the NFL saw Russ up close and personally and said, no,

(02:18:55):
I'm not only not in on Russ, I'm so out
on Russ. I'm willing to take a historic dead cat
number to get away from him. And Russ wasn't terrible
last year. He was okay last year. But he was
okay with again one of the best quarterback gurus in
the entire league as his head coach. There's been very
little proof that Russ has anything left in the tank
since he left Seattle, so For me, it's you. I

(02:19:18):
certainly watched as a Raiders fan. I watched those games
last year against Dever. I was never scared of us.
I don't think anybody scared of us anymore. There was
a moment in time of flash where he was very,
very good, and now that flash seems to be over.
So while Rusk can turn around and dink and dunk
for a few yards here and there, maybe get some completions,
I don't think there's anything left there and this offense
isn't going to be really amenable to that. So they

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have a better opportunity with play action. They have a
better opportunity running the football. They have better opportunity with
again being able to move the line of scrimmage around,
move the pocket around with Justin and Russ can't do
any of that as efficiently.

Speaker 2 (02:19:53):
You know what, I hear what you're saying, but I'm
certainly taking the entire opposite approach. Do you realize that
Russell Wilson threw for twenty six touchdowns with all the
eight interceptions last year and threw for over three thousand
yards on a bad football team. I mean, he had
some great numbers, And thinking about Sean Payton. I mean,
you know, it's great that people say that such and
such is going to develop this guy, you know. I mean,

(02:20:15):
Patrick Mahomes would have been a great quarterback without Andy Reid.
Believe me, that's just just the way Andy Reid helped.
No doubt about that, but he helped. That's basically it.
You got the god given ability. You could play, you
could play food. I don't care who goes a quarterback who.
I don't care who coaches Daniel Jones. He's not going
to be a Heisman Trophy winning college. He's not going
to be a Hall of Famer in the pros. Daniel

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Jones ain't gonna make it. He doesn't have it. It
doesn't have the goods. But Russell Wilson still has it.
And I don't care who's coaching there. And I think
the fact that Mike Tomlin has not announced who's starting
it is a great move on his part as coach
because he still keeps the competition alive in training camp period.

Speaker 1 (02:20:52):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (02:20:54):
But if you take those numbers you just gave me
on Russ last year and then make it make sense
for me, why after those three thousand yards twenty six touchdowns,
eight picks that Denver decided to take a fifty three
million dollar cap hit this year and thirty two million
dollars next year just to get him out the door
being the money real numbers. But but yeah, but they

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didn't need the money. They're gonna suck anyway. They didn't
need the money. They frankly, they even with the way
they could have restructured a couple of contracts, they could
have kept Bownicks and Russell Wilson if they wanted to,
like in today's world, they could have pushed some other
contracts around and gotten through that.

Speaker 1 (02:21:28):
They they took a dead cap hit. That is absolutely jarring.

Speaker 4 (02:21:32):
Part of the reason that they don't have enough talent
this year simply to get him out the door like
that has to mean something, right.

Speaker 2 (02:21:38):
Like yeah, not only on pay And then he did
not see eye to eye and they didn't like each other.
He didn't want to play for him. I mean, you know,
Sean Payton wanted it his way, Russell did it his way.
And we knew what Russell Wilson had in his in
his repertoire, he watched video games at one point in
time by himself.

Speaker 3 (02:21:56):
But I still think he has talent and if.

Speaker 2 (02:21:58):
He's molded, if he's if he's taken care of, if
they given the opportunity to play, he's got something to prove.
Right now, I think there are players and we mentioned
this earlier today that a guy like Baker Mayfield, who
has kicked out the door finally found new life in
Tampa Bay. I think that Russell Wilson's going to find
new life in Pittsburgh and I think he will be
the starting quarterback. I think that's the reason why they
got him to be the starting quarterback. You know, you

(02:22:20):
go back to Justin Fields. He's a turnover machine. Really,
I don't think the Pittsburgh Steels could afford to have
him as quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:22:29):
I do. I do agree that the turnovers have been
problematic for Justin Fields. There's no two ways about that.

Speaker 4 (02:22:37):
I would also, though, say that everything we just talked
about with you know, hey, a new lease on life
and an opportunity something to prove, don't those.

Speaker 1 (02:22:45):
Also all apply to Justin Fields. I mean, at that point,
isn't there some element?

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
Not really, because Justin Fields never know, because Justin Fields
has never made it. He's never tasted the honey at
the top of the mountain, you know, but Russell Wilson
has Justin Filds Fields, but he's working up the mount.

Speaker 4 (02:23:01):
But he still has something to prove coming away from
a team that gave up on him, like he still has.
He still has something to show the world about who
he can be as a quarterback in the NFL. And
you know, there is an element of that that I
think has to matter.

Speaker 1 (02:23:14):
And you're right.

Speaker 4 (02:23:15):
The turnovers being there in the preseason I think is
a bad look for Justin Fields because that was the
knock on him and it's still the knock on him.
So that's an issue. There's no doubt about that. And
they certainly can't afford a bunch of turnovers. I agree
with all of that. But also they're gonna need somebody
that can make them big plays. They're gonna need somebody
that can make them big plays off schedule, and I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:23:35):
Know if one of them cans, because I don't know
if that's the talent. I mean, as I say, George
Pickens is to receive and Naje Howards is gonna win
the football. But if they if they do win, if
they can win, if they're going to do anything at
all it's gonna be a defensive the defensive.

Speaker 4 (02:23:49):
Gains with him, but Justin Field's feet, I mean, Justin
Fields hit the over on last year as a degenerate cambler.
Justin Fields hit the over on the Vegas expectation for
yards rushing, and I think twelve of the seventeen games
like Justin Fields can still he may not be able
to throw the ball, but he's going to get you
first down after first down because he can't run the football,

(02:24:09):
and they're going to need that. They need some other
dynamic elements right now. The fact that his feet help.

Speaker 2 (02:24:15):
Him, I would say this, I think it's a tough call.
In my mind, in my heart of hearts, I think
Russell Wilson's gets the nod. But it's a tough call,
and I'm glad I don't have to make that call.
I'm making the call right here saying I think Russell
Wilson will start opening day. Whether he continues, I don't know.
But again, you know, I think Russell Wilson have a
longer stretched quarterback to Justin Fields. Justin Fields, if he

(02:24:36):
does start and he has that turnover situation to pop
up again, he'll be yanked a lot quicker than Russell
Wilson will be yanked.

Speaker 4 (02:24:44):
It's going to be interesting because the Steelers here clearly
right now, in my mind, the fourth best team in
their own division, and that's been a long time since
we said that. They need to get something from the
quarterback position if they even want to have a shot
at being the third best.

Speaker 2 (02:24:56):
And I'm hearing what you saying, and you may very
well be right, but I tell you, if Jamar Chase
doesn't play for the Bengals, they may be battling out
for that fourth spot.

Speaker 4 (02:25:05):
I believe in Joe Burrows so much, you know, and
they got one more year T Higgins. Like, if T
Higgins is going to turn around and get paid like
a number one, he can prove he's the number one
right out.

Speaker 1 (02:25:13):
Of the gates, right right, Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (02:25:15):
It's gonna be tough, But it is the toughest division
I believe in football. That is a tremendous division. It's
a great division. I think Baltimore's head and shoulders above
everybody else in that division. But Cleveland's pretty tough, and
they may have the defensive team, the defensive player of
the year on that team as well, So you know again,
quarterbacks a major question in Cleveland. You know, can Deshaun
Watson come back and play? And we talked about that

(02:25:37):
early today. Can he play? Can he get that rushed off?
Does he care to play? Does he want to play?
Is there a motivation fan to I hope so, you know,
we'll see, We'll see what happens there.

Speaker 3 (02:25:46):
There's a big question in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (02:25:49):
No, yeah, you're right about that. I don't trust that
quarterback situation at all. You're very right.

Speaker 3 (02:25:54):
I'm not very right. Sometimes I'm wrong. Many times I'm wrong.
Believe me. I promise you that.

Speaker 2 (02:26:00):
All right, he's chasing Fitz. I'm Andy Ferman. We have
Fox Sports Sunday on Fox, but it's ready. You know what,
there's still some bad blood, some real bad blood between
one quarterback and his coach. That's coming up live next
on the tyrack dot com studios. But first our guy
Isaac Low and Kron with the sports.

Speaker 11 (02:26:16):
Good morning, Andy and Jason, and we greet you with
fresh NFL news on this Sunday morning. Is NFL media
reporting the Jacksonville Jaguars have released receiver Denzel Mems, while
ESPN reports that the Los Angeles Rams have granted starting
linebacker Ernest Jones permission to seek a trade. Jones was
the Rams leading tackler last season. This is the final
year of his contract. Baseball Saturday night, the Tampa Bay

(02:26:38):
Raised defeated the Los Angeles Dodgers in ten innings, nine
to eight. Tampa Bay's Junior Common Arrow the game tying
home run at the top of the ninth inning, and
then Jose Cabalio hit the game winning home run in
the top of the tenth show hey Otani is forty
first home run at a losing cause for the Dodgers.
The Mets Francisco Lindor homeward from both sides of the plate,
including a grand slam at five RBI and a seven

(02:27:01):
to one win at San Diego Tigers over the White
Sox thirteen to four, as Detroit's Trek Scoobel became the
first of the Majors to fifteen wins. He also leads
the Majors with a two point five eight earned run average. Finally,
back to the NFL because more details have emerged about
the incident on Friday night that saw about a dozen
Los Angeles Chargers players get stuck in an elevator at

(02:27:25):
the team hotel in Dallas preceding Saturday's game against the Cowboys.
Players had to be extracted through the elevator's ceiling panel
by the Dallas Fire Department's search and rescue team. Fortunately
no one was injured, but head coach Jim Harbaugh revealed
that the players were stuck in the elevator for two
hours and that one of the players who was stuck

(02:27:47):
in the elevator, you guessed it, none other than franchise
quarterback Justin Herbert.

Speaker 3 (02:27:54):
Andy and Jason. Next time, I'll just take the stairs
back to you.

Speaker 5 (02:27:57):
Thank you guy.

Speaker 3 (02:27:58):
He's a tough day.

Speaker 2 (02:27:59):
Hey, you gotta let it. Oh, we'll explain that in
just about a minute. He is Jason Fitz, I'm Andy Furman.
He's in for Bucky Brooks, and we have yay or
nay in about eight to nine minutes from now. You know,
I'll let to run this bar you if you could
tell me definitively, what's the major difference between Major League
Baseball interest and the National Football League interests fan interest?

(02:28:19):
That is, I'll give you, I'll give you a bagel.
I'll give you that bagel. What do you think in
your heart of hearts? JF is the biggest difference in
your mind, why baseball is falling so far behind having
an interest in our country.

Speaker 1 (02:28:33):
I think it has a lot to do with the
number of games. It has a lot to do with
the day of the games.

Speaker 4 (02:28:40):
There is something honestly, truly magical about the fact that
you don't wake up and say, oh wait, yeah, they
got a game tonight. Like that just doesn't happen in
the NFL. So it feels like the number of games
being so low. It feels like the way the games
lay out on the calendar, and then it feels like, frankly,
the fact that there are so many months without games.
I keep going back to this, but as a Raiders fan,

(02:29:01):
for example, the last meaningful football game I saw for
my favorite team was the beginning of January. I won't
get a meaningful football game again until the beginning of September.
That is nine months that you say, eight full months
that you sit there and you just wait, you wait
to watch your favorite team. No other sport has a
break like that and then has their games consolidated in

(02:29:23):
a way that you can spend the whole week looking
forward to, Like if the Yankees lose to the Red Sox. Okay,
two days later, you're onto whatever's next, Right, Like if
the Raiders lose to the Chiefs, I have to sit
there and wallow in it for seven days. Just it
creates a different reaction because there's just different there's different inventory,
there's different timing.

Speaker 1 (02:29:41):
All of that together creates this really perfect moment.

Speaker 4 (02:29:44):
And there's no different to me than if your favorite
TV show is gone for a couple of years. When
it comes back, everybody's enamored with it. Your favorite movie.
If they put too many out in a row, everybody
freaks out like you. Just the spacing of it makes
it far more easy to become obsessed with.

Speaker 3 (02:30:00):
I certainly can't argue with anything you say.

Speaker 2 (02:30:02):
I'm gonna add to that saying that maybe gambling, obviously
fantasy football makes football perhaps more interesting.

Speaker 3 (02:30:08):
But here's the key, in my heart of hearts, I
think this is the major reason.

Speaker 2 (02:30:12):
Why football has passed the so called national pastime in interest,
fan interest, and participation watching whatever it may be.

Speaker 3 (02:30:22):
This story's every day.

Speaker 2 (02:30:23):
For example, to a tagle Ivoa just the end of
the day called his former coach Brian Floor is a
terrible person. You don't see stories like that in Major
League Baseball. It stirs the pot, it keeps the interest going.
The media loves this stuff. What was the last time
you saw a story like that in Major League baseball?
When did you see Aaron Aaron Judge say that Aaron

(02:30:46):
Boone's a terrible manager, or someone on his team said
some other manager was banned on another team. You know,
why didn't some player come out and say, to Chicago
White Sox, maybe the worst team he's ever seen in
major league sports?

Speaker 3 (02:30:58):
You don't see that in baseball.

Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
Football has a story almost every day. And Brian Flores
now is the Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator coach to when
he coached the Miami Dolphins. Tua comes out and says
Flores is a terrible person. He said, I'm genuine. I mean,
it's unbelievable. And now that was way back then. I
mean he coached Miami in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.

(02:31:21):
But these are things that we thrive on. We love
this stuff. This is father that keeps us right on
top of things. Baseball doesn't have that, and maybe baseball
should have that to keep baseball back in the news.

Speaker 3 (02:31:32):
They don't have stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (02:31:34):
Yeah, baseball though, and baseball fans seem to live in
a world of you know, wanting more respects than those things. Now,
I will counter your drama argument day in and day
out and say that's sort of what feeds the NBA.
The problem is the NBA product at night in and
night out isn't as significant. So the NBA drama, well,
they don't play every day.

Speaker 2 (02:31:53):
The load management garbagator, they don't play and there's too
many games to play anyway, but they just don't play
every game, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:32:00):
I mean so like they've managed the soap opera.

Speaker 4 (02:32:03):
They've managed the Bravo Network level soap opera around it,
they just don't have an actual product to back it up.
The NFL seems to be the fine balance on the two,
you know, and that definitely makes a difference in it,
Like you've got to have if you've got to have
conversation at the week mixed with a an actual product
that people want to see every day, otherwise eventually they
just tune out.

Speaker 2 (02:32:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:32:24):
Well, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:32:26):
I don't know why two of must really dislike this
guy or he had nothing else to say that day,
but he said that quote. If you woke up every
morning and I told you that you sucker what you did,
that you don't belong what you do when you're doing it,
that you shouldn't be here, that this guy shouldn't be here,
that you haven't earned this right. Then you have someone
else come in and tell you, hey, dude, you're the
best fit for this. How would it make you feel

(02:32:47):
listening to one or listening to the other, apparently talking
about coach Mike McDaniel compared to coach Brian Flores. I mean,
this guy had such a bad taste in his mouth
with Brian Flores, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (02:32:59):
Really think think about it. Sometimes you just got to
let things like that go.

Speaker 2 (02:33:02):
I mean, this is something that's really really eating him
up alive. I can't believe he must have really disliked
Brian Flores.

Speaker 1 (02:33:11):
Well, I think Flores has got to learn from this too.

Speaker 4 (02:33:13):
And I've talked to a couple guys that played in
the league and asked a lot about this. And one
thing that you realize is that the great coaches are
also great at reading the room with the personalities as
they deal with Some people respond to that, you know,
some people respond to coaching of you suck, get better.
I personally, I've always loved being a hard judgment, whether
it's from you know, teachers or whether it's from coaches,

(02:33:35):
whether like I always like somebody that will come in
and say, hey, that sucked, that was terrible, do better
be better? Like I respond to that. There are a
lot of people that don't. And one thing you have
to do as a coaches, you've got to figure out
how each person requires communication, and you've really got to
find yourself communicating on their level. It takes like a
class on communication to be able to do that at
the highest level, and Flores obviously hasn't done it. For

(02:33:56):
him to essentially coach Tua into a bubble is a
statement frankly that he wasn't doing a very good job
of reading the personality. And some guys are like it's allowed.
Some guys are more sensitive than others. And if you
want to get the best out of your quarterback, you
better figure out how to communicate to that quarterback the
way that gets the best out of him. Flores obviously
didn't do that. Mike McDaniel obviously is doing that. But

(02:34:16):
I would tell everybody this one important thing for all
of the praise we give Mike McDaniel so far in
his tenure, he's won one more game than Flora. Right, Yeah,
we see him differently, but like the result, the result
for the Dolphins either way has not been what.

Speaker 1 (02:34:30):
It needs to be right.

Speaker 2 (02:34:32):
And you know, according to p Rose, and he was
managing the Cincinnati Registers, there's three ways to treat your players.

Speaker 3 (02:34:37):
One you can pat him on the back. Number two,
you just leave him alone.

Speaker 2 (02:34:41):
And the third one some of them just need a
lot of coaching and you got to push him to
get the best potential out of them. Three things you
got to do as a coach and they were a manager.
But two has said quote having a terrible person, meaning
Flores was a terrible person. Having a terrible person telling
you things that you don't want to hear or probably
shouldn't be hearing, will eventually lead to a person starting
to believe those things. Look, I wasn't there at the time.

(02:35:02):
I don't want to be there. I'm just reading and
hearing what I see and what I read. The point
is this, sometimes people can't handle this, and obviously Tua
could not handle these things, and he was not coached
to proper way. You know, and look, there's a way
to get to a guy, and maybe Flores did not understand.
I guess the persona of a tour to really get

(02:35:25):
to him, get between the ears, and he couldn't do it.
It didn't work out. So now there's some bad blood
between the two, which is good for the NFL. They
love that because it creates storylines and that's basically what
keeps them alive.

Speaker 3 (02:35:37):
It really does.

Speaker 2 (02:35:38):
Who knows, I don't know, maybe on way off base
on that, but I think I'm onto something.

Speaker 3 (02:35:43):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (02:35:44):
Maybe I think you're right. I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (02:35:47):
Listen to you.

Speaker 1 (02:35:47):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (02:35:48):
There we go, all right, he Jason fits. I'm Andy
Firmway on Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, it's
time to say yay or nay, and you know what
freaking next coming right up? Okay, it's about eleven minutes
before the top of the hour and we're lye from
the tire rack dot Com studios.

Speaker 3 (02:36:05):
By the way, at the top of the hour, which
would be ten a m.

Speaker 2 (02:36:09):
Eastern time, count down the kickoff of my guys Brian no,
Jeff Schwartz, and Bill Krachnolbergers Top of the Hour, right
here on Fox Sports Radio. And before we get into
ya you RNA. What a great staff we have here,
really do. I want to thank them, and I want
to thank my guy Jason Fitz. Thank you so much.
A wonderful four hours with you today. I totally enjoyed it,
so thank you for that. But mighty Mark Ramsey, Kevin

(02:36:32):
Wyo Sports Updates. I love doing the sports updates as well.
Chris Purfet doing that mister soccer stuff he's with us,
and of course Shay Shay Shay Shay.

Speaker 3 (02:36:42):
Let's do yay nay.

Speaker 5 (02:36:44):
Okay, let's begin rack those brains, gentlemen, these stories.

Speaker 1 (02:36:49):
Need an ass I think we need a ruling on this.
It's yay or nay.

Speaker 8 (02:36:54):
Hey, you guys doing and a fun little new sounder
for a new game. We'd like to call it Yeay
or Nay. It is your first time tuning in. Yay
or Nay is the game where I basically tell the
guys sports stories from around the world and they tell
me yay or nay. You guys ready, Yeah, let's get
right into it.

Speaker 1 (02:37:11):
We're are ready. Let's go.

Speaker 8 (02:37:13):
So the National League MVP will go to a d
H Marcela Zuna from the Braves or the Dodgers. Show Hey, O, Tani,
yay or nay, Andy. Let's start with you.

Speaker 2 (02:37:22):
So let Jay he's a guest, come on, let him
go first.

Speaker 3 (02:37:25):
Don't be a chase and go to Show Hey.

Speaker 9 (02:37:27):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (02:37:27):
It's just as easy like it'll go to Show Hey.
It should go to Show Hey. Like at this point,
Show Hey is a little like Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 1 (02:37:33):
I no longer care.

Speaker 4 (02:37:34):
About any of the rules that anybody has about anything.
You just make sure Show Hey gets every year possible award,
every possible thing, plus not for nothing. I mean to
reach the forty forty club in what twenty one games
faster than anyone else has ever done it in history.

Speaker 1 (02:37:47):
Let's just yeah, let's it's all Show Hey, all Show
all Show Hey, all days. That's what I say.

Speaker 2 (02:37:52):
Yeah, I got a yay for Show Hey. But I'm
more concerned what if I happened to his bookmaker. I mean,
the guy was taking his bet, so really, I mean
that story's been buried, that are ruck. I mean, when
he gets the award for MVP, could the book guy
come up with him?

Speaker 3 (02:38:04):
The bookie? Could he accept with him?

Speaker 2 (02:38:06):
Because this is one of the biggest stories in sports
and just like one away, the disappeared.

Speaker 3 (02:38:10):
But yay for show. Hey, he's gonna get it. He
deserves it.

Speaker 8 (02:38:14):
If Aaron Rodgers plays in at least thirteen games for
the Jets, do they win the AFC East? Yay or nay?

Speaker 3 (02:38:20):
I say yay.

Speaker 2 (02:38:21):
He's got to stay healthy, gotta stayley. Look, I got
a great defense, they really do. I think they got
everything put together. Let him play at least thirteen games
this year. They're going to the playoffs. They probably will
win the AFCs. I'll tell you what the big surprise
might be. The Miami Dolphins not as good as last year.

Speaker 3 (02:38:36):
How do you like that? So I say yay for
the Jets. Yea Aaron Rodgers, I say.

Speaker 4 (02:38:42):
Yay to the playoffs, but nay to winning the division.
The death of the Buffalo Bills is annually reported simply
because they can't beat the Chiefs. I'm not willing to
do that. They're still the Bills. They still won a
bunch of football games. I know that they lost a
weapon of wide receiver we all care a lot about.
But one of the guys that played with Josh Allen
for years told me that internally the organization believes that
Josh Allen will account for forty touchdowns no matter what.

(02:39:03):
Whether that's through the air on the ground doesn't matter.
They think he counts for forty. So let's see what
that number looks like. I think the Bills are still
gonna win more games than the Jets.

Speaker 3 (02:39:11):
No, Stefan Diggs's loss is a big loss. Big loss.

Speaker 1 (02:39:15):
Speaking of the back after the season, it was an
okay loss.

Speaker 8 (02:39:18):
Go ahead, guys, speaking of the Bills. Disappointing seasons are
on the horizon for quarterback Josh Allen of Buffalo and
quarterback Deshaun Watson in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (02:39:26):
Yeah your name, Oh I go, I mean yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna say yeah. Game with DeShawn DeShawn? I mean
I really and truly it's embarrassing. Come on, go out there,
take the rust. I want to see what you could do.
Josh Allen, I'm on the fence a little bit, but
I don't think the Bills are going to be as.

Speaker 3 (02:39:42):
Good as last year.

Speaker 2 (02:39:43):
But Deshaun Watson obviously big disappointment. You spent all that
money on him in Cleveland. Now you gotta eat it.

Speaker 1 (02:39:49):
How do you like that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:39:51):
The Deshaun want he By the way, go look at
the dead cap hits if they try and get rid
of DeShawn at any point. I think it's one hundred
and thirty million next year, in eighty or nineteen, and
after the year after that. So yeah, DeShawn absolutely, but
nay to Josh Allen, no step back for Joshjosh will
still be an MVP candidate.

Speaker 8 (02:40:09):
Brandon I will be playing for the San Francisco forty
nine Ers this season, yeay or nay? Andy easy, Yay.

Speaker 2 (02:40:14):
He definitely will be did some rumors now with the
Washington Commanders, but you know what, they had been talks
for months about that ain't gonna have He'll be back
in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (02:40:22):
However, if he's not the forty nine, it can still
win without him.

Speaker 4 (02:40:26):
I've been saying yay since the rumors first started. He's
always going to be a forty nine.

Speaker 1 (02:40:30):
Yep, I'm all in on that.

Speaker 3 (02:40:31):
There we go a pleasure Jason at pleasure. Hope we
do it again.

Speaker 2 (02:40:34):
My friend count dout the kickoff coming up next where
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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