Steve Hartman and Rich Ohrnberger preview the NFC!

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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Rich.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We have sort of an open show as we did
a week ago, and we're going to take full advantage
once again if you missed our show last weeks again
once again once again, so we are taking full advantage
of this time to get you fully ready for the
start of the NFL season. Last week we ran down
the entire AFC. Oh my god, sixteen teams. We got them,

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We have wins. You know, who's going to win the division,
who will be the wild card teams, who will be
matched up in the conference championship game? And today we
are going to focus in on the NFC. Monsei wasn't
here last week, so we're going to get caught up
on her AFC picks, and then we're going to go
through this entire NFC ledger here. By the way, I've

(01:47):
already looked at like Chris, you know, who is well
known to have a certain tie to a team in Detroit.
He's come with like an encyclopedia of stats already for
today's show.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Never heard of them.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Bo also is well prepared for it to because we sorry,
I just saw it. Threw it out last week, not
this week. No, they And by the way we were
it was interesting for us last week because for the
most part you and I were pretty much on the
same page.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It was so weird because that is not that is
not us, that's not us. Normally we can't see et
eye on anything, but the versus the control room.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, then the control and then you too. It was
like it was so strange.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Honestly, I thought for sure that my pigs would align
more with Bow's and Chris more with Steve's.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
But it was the opposite.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
It was Chriss and and and Bo, you and I
and it was well, I will say this, it does
draw like a hard border line, like one of us
are going to be very wrong on this side of
the glass and the group of us on the other
side of the glass.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's gonna be one or the other. There's gonna be
no fair. Dogs're gonna have.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
To lay down some wagers on some of this. Then
go back and look at some of the divides and
uh yeah, there's humiliation for whoever loses those battleground teams.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
Now that I've had a week to think about it,
could I make adjustments to my AFC picks or.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
No, there are no We have plenty of time to
think about it. The Stone now you you basically, Bo,
being the uh super duper producer that he is, actually
kept track of all our picks except apparently you and
I and are Titans.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I don't have your Titans win total. Sorry, I
went everyone fell asleep when you mentioned Tennessee Titans. Tennessee Titans,
we all take a nap.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
So well, you know what's so crazy is so after
that show, Yeah, I spent the week going back over
my my picks, and I liked, I liked many of them.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I may I may be underrating the Titans a little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I think maybe we all are, because no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
If it wasn't for the Patriots, I would have had
them solidly right at the bottom of it.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I have to know what the Tennessee Titans are to
actually rate them. I mean, and I don't the post
Derrick Henry Era begins.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Hollered DeAndre hop this this is a retirement tire thrill.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
They let they let uh will Malik Willis go. I
don't know what they are.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I know the fact that Malik Willis is still on
a roster is beyond me anyway.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
So, uh, we will get into the NFC picks.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
But I want to open up Moncey's Mike first, guys,
because we do have to sort of bring her into
the mix. Bringing Now, she's not going to run down
the wins of everybody in the AFC, but she will
share with us her picks on the four division winners,
the three wild cards, and then the two teams that
will face off in the AFC Championship Game.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So, Mance, what do you gotcha?

Speaker 7 (04:42):
I'm gonna start with the easy one. The AFC West
will be the chiefs Chieves.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That makes them.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Wow, that's a shocker. Go ahead.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
I think it's pretty easy. Also for the AFC South,
it's going to be the Texans. I think that win
that division.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Well, we had differences of opinion there.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
In my opinion, I think it's easy. In my opinion,
that one I didn't have to thing too hard about.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
So far, Monsei is aligned with the Control.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I was going to say, because Rich and I were
with Jacksonville there and you guys are all with.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
Houston and I you know, I think I see why
you picked Jacksonville.

Speaker 8 (05:11):
But no, I'm gonna stick with Houston on this one.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Okay, what about that North?

Speaker 9 (05:14):
Okay, the AFC North gets a little hard, but I'm
taking the Cincinnati Bengals, thank you very much, Bengals for
the AFC North.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
And then the East Hi the AC East.

Speaker 7 (05:30):
Also, I'm taking the Jets.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, now, this is ridiculous Jets. So Adam Kaplan. Guys
came on our show yesterday, Richie ready for this, Yeah,
so we were.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I was talking to Adam about the AFC.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I didn't divulge who our picks were, but I asked him,
I said, you know, I I believe that you know,
a healthy Joe Burrow, if he can stay healthy, obviously
makes a huge difference for the Bengals. Who do you
think is the second best team in the AFC behind
the Chiefs?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
He picked the Jets. Okay, so hear me out here.
I mean, I don't even have the Jets making the
pull playoffs.

Speaker 8 (06:06):
Have been on that train the entire time.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Notice I didn't interrupt Adam Kaplan. I was I was
straining myself.

Speaker 8 (06:14):
Yeah, but he's Steve has felt like this for weeks.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I know, Look, he is not. He doesn't get Aaron
Rodgers n He didn't get it at the start of
last season. So this is really another year in the
making in terms of what he thinks the Jets are
gonna look like with Rogers at the helm.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I'm a fan.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think in terms of his game, there's very few
quarterbacks who can elevate a roster the way he can.
In the NFL currently or overall. He is that talented
of a quarterback win healthy obviously, and so I think
the Jets are gonna have a double digit win season.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I have him down for ten wins.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I have them just missing the playoffs because I feel
like the Steelers are going to beat them in Pittsburgh
mid season, and Steelers will finish at the bottom of
the AFC Conference with ten wins as well.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
With that one win will be the tie breaker and it'll.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Be a Rod just heading off on his darkness retreat,
or maybe he's gonna have his aahuasca team considering his future.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
I just got a text from the edit bay Ian
says he's never pulling sound for Steve again.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Wow he did.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
He spent the morning trashing USC and now he's trashing
the New York time.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Know, well, we did have to pull the rappers in.
This is where Monsi has actually really swerved on us.
She's the only one here who has the Jets winning
the AFC East. She is the only one with the Jets.
The other that US had the Bills and Rich had
the Dolphins. I believe I.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Have I have, yeah, the Dolphins as THEFC East winner.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Crew.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, how about this rich So I'm asking Adam Kaplan
after he makes this Jets thing, I said, well, who
do you think is going to have a better year
in twenty twenty four? Joe Burrow or Aaron Rodgers? And
He's like, well, let me think about that, and wow,
oh wow, I would like So I was like, whoa, wha, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa woh.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
They're both coming off of injuries. Though I get the pause.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Aaron Rodgers has turned I mean forty one during the season,
and you think he is egan in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
With Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I would like to know the date because I'd like
to sing him Happy Birthday. That whatever Sunday show that is.
I think we should all join in.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
I'll bring in a cake.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
So who needed a Titans pick? Which which Titans pick?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Did?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I think it's mine? It's your okay? So what I okay?
So I had I'll start with me. I had six
wins for the Titans, and like I said, you know, Bo,
you and me are kind of in the same boat
wanting to relitigate some of our picks. I I went
back and looked at some of the preseason games that
will lavis played. I look back at some.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Of preseason, I know, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Season gauge? What did you think of Aaron Rodgers? Preseason
took a lot? There wasn't a lot. Did I have
five or six wins? Okay?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
And you had the Titans at five wins?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Five wins? That's what I thought. Alright, So we all
set now, But.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Not only do I hold on all of our wins
and laws all of our win totals.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I have them color coded. Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, wow, Now if on our own time, if our
own time, she wants to share that with her list
of wins for the AFC teams, you can do that, Okay,
all right, we need your three wildcard teams, the Ravens, Ravens.

Speaker 7 (09:20):
Okay, and this is where I have a hard time.
I'm not gonna lie Dolphins, Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Okay, one more, I know I know the team she
wants to see. I know too.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, just say it.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
Yeah, it's fine, Chargers.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
She's a Charger fan through and through, so she's all right.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
So you got that.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
And then the two teams that will face each other
don't take a winner. Just the two teams that will
be in the AFC Championship game Bengals, Chiefs, Bengals and Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Okay, all right, boy, you got all that, No, but
I'll get it from later. Okay, all down, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
So he's working it, all right, guys on the other side,
we're gonna get this thing started, and we will start
with the NFC West, home of the defending NFC champion
San Francisco forty nine ers.

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to break down the National Football Conference as we get
ready for the start of the twenty twenty four season.

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By the way, Rich, we not only have a Thursday game, yes,
rematch of THEFC championship game into the Chiefs and the Rape,
we also have a Friday game from Brazil.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yes, yeah, this is gonna be a unique start to
the season. Outside of Saturday, we have four days of
football to open up the season Thursday, Friday, Sunday, and Monday. Yeah,
so that Monday night er is really exciting. We'll get
to that in a little bit here. It's going to
feature the New York Jets going all the way across
the country to Levi Stadium to take on the San

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Francisco forty nine ers. That'll cap the first weekend of football.
But is there any game on the docket that's sticking
out to you that like that's a must watch for me?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:35):
I like the Rams Lions game. Yeah, Oh, that's huge.
I mean it's a rematch obviously in the playoffs, and
you know, again doing television in Los Angeles and you know,
getting a lot of Sean McVay feed as they get
ready for this game.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
They're a little banked up on the offensive line.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
And well, we're going to get to that because we're
going to start with the NFC West as we give
our predictions on how these eagel fair in the twenty
twenty four season now will go alphabetically, which means we're
going to start with the Arizona Cardinals. Now, remember a
year ago Cliff Kingsbury out Jonathan Gannon in he had

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been the defensive coordinator for Bo's beloved Eagles, And you're thinking,
all right, they're gonna put emphasis on defense, and they
promptly gave up the second most points in the league
last year.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
So the idea that you know, okay, we're going to
be more of a defensive minded team did not pan
out in twenty twenty three. Only the Commanders gave up
more points last season than the Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals
are banking on two things this year, a healthy Kyler
Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior living up to the hype.

(13:45):
Right right, those are.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
The two things.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Because I'm getting an earful I believe me, I've heard
more Gannon than anyone here because I'm hanging out in
the Phoenix area these days.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
No, that's right.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
He underwhelms me every time I see this guy in
an interview sit But that's okay. I mean, I've been
underwhelmed by very successful coaches. But I'm going to get
this thing started.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Guys. As far as Arizona four win team a year, Ago.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I really want to believe that there are going to
take a step forward. I've never wavered in my fanship
of Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison. To me, Junior is
going to be the real deal. But that being said, defensively,
this team is still not good. I'm going to give
the Arizona Cardinals an upgrade, but only to six wins

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coming up here in twenty twenty four. Rich, That feels right.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
However, I will say this, the Arizona Cardinals played a
lot of teams really tight last year, and they played
a lot of really good teams really tight last year.
They have the situation that they had at quarterback, Kyler
Murray back and healthy assumedly for an entire season. We
always assume that to start a year, unless there's like

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a specific concern that may hold somebody out of participating
early in the season, like last year. For the Arizona Cardinals,
It's gonna be different. And I think he sounds more
motivated than I've ever heard him. But buy in factor
for Kyler Murray's high. I'm gonna give them seven wins.
I'm at the wins the Arizona Cardinals seven wins, all right?
I have six, which ass seven Bowl?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
You're up next?

Speaker 3 (15:21):
How do you see the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Marvin Arison Junior has been like an NFL wide receiver
for the past three years now playing in college, so
I think the transition for him is going to be
super easy. And yeah, like weridg said, they played a
lot of guys hard. I think they beat the Eagles
last year when the Eagles were falling apart. So but
I think you guys are right. I'm gonna seven ten.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
We're creeping up a little bit here. What do you
got for us? Chris?

Speaker 5 (15:47):
I think the one thing in the Cardinals favor is
I'm trying to look at their schedule right now. I
always like teams that kind of have a middle of
the road bye week. I mean week eleven, though I
don't know if that's the middle of the road, but
still that's good time to get refreshed. You play some
of your big, big games early on at home, like
Los Angeles and Detroit. I think they can. You know, they,

(16:10):
as you say, play a lot of game. Teams tough,
but I'm not as much as we focus on the offense,
as you say, they want to be defensive heavy and
I don't know if they can really do that out there.
Shouldn't overlook Trey McBride as their tight end either, but yeah,
I'm kind of settling into the spirit is very eager
to go out and break faces, but the flesh is

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kind of needs to do a few more push ups.
I've got them at seven and ten.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
All right, another seven wins, Monsei.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
I just quickly jotted down looking at their schedule, and
I counted the wins.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
I counted. I have them winning seven.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 8 (16:45):
That's literally what I did, And I have them winning seven.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
I hope Marvin Harrison Junior is going to kick ass
because he's in one of my fantasy teams already. Yeah,
but he can still kick ass and they still lose.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
So I have them right now jotting it down seven.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
All right, So everyone's at seven, but me, I'm at six?
Would you like to?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
And that's because I get to actually see Gan and
interviewed a lot, so every time I see him, as
you know, it brings it down a notch.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
So alright, maybe revising this next week is what you're saying.
There's no revision. I am on the books. We are
on the books right now.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Arizona Cardinals will go six and eleven in my prediction.
All right, Coming up next alphabetically in the NFC West,
the Los Angeles a Rams, a team that shocked the
world a year ago, certainly shocked me because I picked
them to be the worst team in the league after
a conversation I had with an actual Rams player before
the season began, I asked them, I think the over

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under on the Rams was like six or something like
that a year ago, six and a half.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I said, what do you think under the player? They
had no depth.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
They still had a question mark, you know, with Matthew
Stafford coming off an injury. Cooper Cup was not going
to start the season. I mean, it was a mess.
And what happens Pooka Nakua. He sets rookie records for
receiving yards.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Kiren Williams leads.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
The NFL in rushing yards per game both the Pro
Bowls and no one could have predicted this. But here's
the thing about the Rams as we head into this
year ten and seven. A year ago, they were a
playoff team. I don't think you can overstate the loss
of Aaron Donald. I'm sorry Aaron Donald is one of
the top three defensive players of the last twenty years,

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most dominant. He might be the most dominant interior defensive
lineman of all time, and the Rams will feel the effect.
I say this many times, guys bounce of the balls.
A difference between ten and seven and seven and ten,
that's where the Rams are gonna end up. I got
the Rams at seven and ten this season, all right.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I do think that Aaron Donald is one of those
teams that can knock you down a win without him
in your starting lineup. He's that talented. You said one
of the top three in the past twenty years, I say,
one of the top three defensive players in the history
of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I mean he is, in my opinion, the most dominant
interior defensive lineman.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Of all time. And there's no doubting that.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So with all of that said, I had the Rams
hovering somewhere around eleven wins. I think they're going to
be a double digit win team. I think I'm putting
them at ten wins.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
I have a lot of belief in Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
A lot of people underrate Matthew Stafford, and I don't
know why that guy is incredible. He is a scientist
with the football and he's a surgeon with his accuracy.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
You saw the the.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
What Cooper Cup and and Puka Nakua could do for
a half season. Because Cup was injured to start the year.
You get him for a full season again, assuming health.
This is going to be a gauntlet for any defense
to get through. Offensively going against the Rams, how do
you game plan for all the weapons they have on
that field?

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, the one thing we do to know about a
Sean McVay offense, it only really clicks whether it was
Jered god or Matthew Stafford when you have a running game.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Last year, Kira Williams gave him that. Can he do
it again? All right?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Both very different here. How do you look the Rams
coming up?

Speaker 6 (20:17):
I don't think Kira Williams is gonna be their started running back.
I think that's Blake corum mm hmm. There's a reason
Kile Williams is the punt returner.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Now.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Yeah, I think Blake korm is gonna slide right in.
And I think this is gonna be like a power
running team. I actually looked at their schedule this time.
It's not that bad. It's very backloaded. I think they're
gonna win eleven games. I think the Rams are just
a good team. I don't know, there are some people
in this building that kind of struggle with the idea
that the Rams are a good football team that knows

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what they're doing. Losing Aaron Donald is tough. But Kobe
Turner's really good. And they did, once again draft really
well because that's what they do when they don't have
first round picks. And they did have a first round
pick and they drafted really well with that pick and
the second round pick. So I just think they're a
good teams. So I'm slotting them in eleven wins.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
All right.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
So I am on an island right now, Chris, Where
are you leaning with the Rams?

Speaker 5 (21:07):
So there's always big ifs when it comes to the
Rams and their health, and I want to be high
on them right now, and you know what, I kind
of am high on them, But I got to say,
coming out of the gate with your starting left tackle suspended,
and now you're talking about moving your big acquisition interior
guard Jonah Jackson playing him center, which I don't know

(21:28):
if Jonah Jackson has played former Detroit Lion I don't
think Jonah Jackson has played center before, which seems like
a very big ask, tremendously big ask.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
I don't know what they're really thinking they're but I
think they'll. The good news is that, as as both says,
kind of backloaded, I think they figure some stuff out
and they're probably off to a rocky start.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
But I like this team a lot.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Again, it comes with the big caveats off if healthy,
if Stafford healthy, if Puka Nakua healthy, if Cooper Cup healthy.
This is still a team that has and I know
we talk a lot about Aaron Donald, but they still
have some playmakers on defense. They still have Kobe Turner,
they drafted Jared Verse. I like where they're going. I
like the style of football they're playing. I'm going to

(22:16):
say I too, will say eleven wins.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Okay, okay, So we got a lot of faith in
the Rams here except for yours truly, And see where
Monci's leaning right now.

Speaker 8 (22:27):
I am, y'all like, I think they maybe can win nine.
Maybe that's like me.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
There's a couple of games I'm looking at here where
I'm like, oh, they could win, they could lose.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
But no more than nine for the Rams.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
So you're saying nine nine, nine.

Speaker 8 (22:46):
Nice, and I actually want to say under nine.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
You have to see now or hold your peace?

Speaker 8 (22:53):
Can I say eight and a half?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
No, you have to go eight or seven and one.
And by the way, both these guys picked the time
the last week.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
I'll stick to nine and I'm not comfortable.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
All right, So nine and eight.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
So obviously you guys, by the way, are we calling
wild card or way to the end of the division?
Wait till the end of the division, all right. So
let's move on to the Seattle Seahawks. Of course, they
have a new coach now, Mike McDonald taking over for
Pete Carroll. McDonald another defensive coach getting an opportunity. He
was the coordinator defensive coordinator for the Ravens a year ago.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Obviously the Ravens one of the better defenses.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Young guy, just thirty seven years of age, came out
of the University of Georgia.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I'd say this about Seattle.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
When you're making a change like this, when you've had
a long time coach that leaves like Pete Carroll, with
all this success that Pete Carroll had, everyone saying, well,
that's a tough spot to put a first time head
coach in the NFL, to have to follow up a
guy that probably will be in Canton, Ohio someday. So
the question is how Mike o'donald do. So I was

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really looking at the Seahawks season last year. It was
really an interesting year because they finished nine and eight,
but they had some pretty ugly losses last year. I
mean they lost to the Ravens thirty seven to seven.
Put it this way, they were outscored by thirty eight
points last year and they had a winning record. So again,

(24:22):
nine and eight sounds a little deceptive and actually how
good this team was a year ago. But that being said,
since I'm not super high on either the Cardinals or
the Rams, I think Seattle will be actually the runner
up in this division, but not nine wins. I will
have them for eight, making it three losing teams in

(24:45):
the NFC West.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Oh yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
And by the way, team so so far you have
Cardinals at six wins, Rams at six wins, No Rams
at seven seven, Okay, Seahawks at eight. So we're graduating
we're gonna go out to the nine win team, right.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
But I you know, I still have faith in the
Seattle offense. So I'm gonna put Seattle at eight and nine.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Rich So I had the Rams at ten wins, I
have the Cardinals at seven. I have the Seahawks at
seven wins. Again, if you look at the Seahawks schedule
and you just close your eyes and you imagine some
of these matchups, they are going to get mopped up
by a lot of teams. Now, they do have some
candy bars on the list. They're gonna play the Bears,

(25:26):
which that's late in the season. If Kayleb Williams end
up being something that could be a toughye, they play
the Giants. There are some some free spots on the
Bengo bar aboard, it seems. But I don't have a
lot of faith in a Seattle team with a kind
of a sparse collection of sometimes superstars. I mean, you know,

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we saw Geno Smith two years ago. He talked about
how he didn't right back. Well he hasn't written since,
so I don't know. I'm not as big a believer
as I used to be. That was a fun story
for a year.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
The twenty twenty two season amazing, and it's really gone
stale since So unless they have a rejuvenation of the
run game or something fantastic happens defensively for Seattle, it's
gonna be a whole home season.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Seven wins, seven wins all? Right, bo, where are you
with the Seahawks?

Speaker 6 (26:18):
I I don't think they're gonna be very good. Mike McDonald,
I think is a legit coach in the NFL. The
Michigan defense that they ran, Yep, You're gonna start seeing
that across the league, and all of the smart head
coaches are gonna try to adopt parts of that into
their own defense. So their defense might be good. But I,
like Rich said, I don't think Gino Smith is actually good.

(26:38):
Like I'll deploy this later with another team too, But
I think a quarterback that's in the NFL for multiple years,
they don't just suddenly get really good out of nowhere,
like teams generally know who they are. So I don't
think Geno Smith is good. And also, like you know,
I don't like Patrick Sweeka that much, So I'm gonna
knock a couple wins off the total. So yeah, I'm

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gonna have them at five wins this year.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Five wins all right, So Seattle bringing up the rear
and Bo's standings in the NFC West. Chris, So, this
is one again one of those teams where it's like
I finally look at the roster and I'm like, wow,
they've really changed.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I don't know who any of these guys are.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
But more than that, I look at their record from
last year and let me let me count this here. One, one,
two is that Okay, they only won two games by
more than a touchdown. Every other game was within one
Every last one of their wins besides Carolina and New

(27:38):
York and Arizona, so three wins. Excuse me? Only three
of their wins came by more than one score. I know,
in overtime. In overtime, mind you. But like there's kind
of this, there's kind of this thing that happens in
the NFL where there's a lot of one score wins
or a lot of one score losses, and there's this
return to the mean on the other side. Likewise, I

(28:00):
was looking at their losses. I think they only had
like three or so that were like, again a touchdown
or more. So, I'm on the belief they're gonna be coming.
They had a lot of close wins that I just
feel like are gonna come back down to earth. I likewise,
do not really believe in Geno Smith. A whole hell
of a lot you're bringing in new coach. There's a
lot of warning signs all over the place. I have

(28:22):
them down for six wins, all right.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Not much coming out of the control room as far
as a prediction for the Seahawks or are you monci.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
I agree with a lot of what the fellows say.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
Like it's not that I don't think Geno Smith is bad,
He's fine, but I don't think he is going to
be their savior. There's a lot of new happening with
the Seahawks new teams.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
So it's just like I have them at seven wins.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
By the way, Mike McDonald never played football in college.
He did play a little baseball in football in high school,
but had some injuries. He did those study finance at
the University of Georgia. I don't know another another one
of these analytics guys. One of the analytics guys.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
We're going to see a lot of fourth down conversion
try We're going to wrap up the NFC West with
the forty nine ers but first let's.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Find out what it's trending right now.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Montse trying to do five jobs.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Do we have it update?

Speaker 8 (29:19):
Yeah, I mean we got some baseball going on.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
There is only one college football game, but it's much
later in the day, so we do have some baseball
going on right now.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
With the Brewers now on top of the Reds three
to two, bottom of the fifth inning.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
The Padres and the Rays are on a rain delay
in Tampa top of the first inning. We have to
mention last night that show. Hey, o Tani hit another
home run. I mean, he's just killing it, but he
hit a home run. Mooki hit a home run. Then
Freddie Freeman hit a home.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
First time in Dodger history, Dodgers' history that the first
three batters of the game hit home run.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
I mean, it's very difficult to do, and it was
an exciting game. The Dodgers did end up beating the
Diamondbacks eight to six. They have a four game series.
They've won the first two, so we'll see how it ends.

Speaker 8 (29:59):
We do.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
You have some tennis coming up at the US Open.
Cocoa Golf Emma Navarro, both Americans, Coco Goff third seed
and Navarro thirteen seed.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
They're gonna get going in the fourth round. It's supposed
to be around two thirty Eastern.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
Times, so we'll see what time they actually start, and
then we have the Tour Championship in golf. Scotti Scheffler
still in the lead. He did already tea off for
the day. He is currently one under through two holes
for today and he is at the top of the
leaderboard at twenty seven under par. Scotti Scheffler. Colin Moore
at Kawa is seven shots back. He's the closest one
and he has won over.

Speaker 8 (30:32):
Through two holes for the day.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Back to you guys, all right, MONTI well, don't go anywhere.
I'm not gonna want to figure out.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Can I can ask a question about something, Mont? You
just said real quick? How are the Tampa Bay Rays
in the San Diego padres and a rain delay?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Very carefully? Do the Tampa Bay Rays not playing in
a dome stadium? Yes? Is it leaking? I don't know, Wow,
that is forgot you close it?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Or maybe at mount I'm going to imagine it's got
to be something with like lightning and maybe.

Speaker 8 (30:58):
Something like that. Yeah, because it is. I was thinking
the same thing but delayed.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
It is also like have we ever seen that before though,
with an indoor stadium having a weather delay.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Dude, it's not an indoor stadium, but you remember the
sofar it's a roof stadium. It's not an indoor but
we remember we had that weather situation with them.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Maybe they got like, you know, that's not a dome.
Maybe they left drops a full dome.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
They left, Yeah, the sunroof. All right, guys, we are
finishing off the NFC West right now with the reigning
NFC West champion, reigning NFC champion San Francisco forty nine ers.
Ayuka is back, and of course they sure we'll get
Trent Williams signed to a deal. I don't think there
will be any doubt about that. You know, there's always

(31:42):
this thought about a team that you know, gets to
the Super Bowl and loses, they have a down year
the following year. I don't bite with the forty nine ers,
as I say, I don't have a lot of faith
in the Cardinals, Seahawks and Rams this year. I think
the forty nine ers just mop up the NFC West
and I just gotta believe that Brock Purdy is going
to be better than he was the year before. I mean,

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this guy is a legit quarterback. He has led his
team now to a Super Bowl, and his record is
only gonna get better. So a year ago they were
twelve and five, I tick him up to thirteen and
four for the forty nine ers. This year, Oh, I can't.
I can't get there. This team is great, there's no

(32:27):
question about it. But there are still questions about brock Purty.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
We saw some.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Nerves, let's call it nerves for probably about five quarters
of his playoffs, maybe more than that outside of the
Super Bowl. I'm discounting the Super Bowl for a moment.
Leading up to the Super Bowl, about five of the
quarters he played in were really shaky. Now, he pulled
it together both against the Green Bay Packers and the
Detroit Lions, but there was a shaky half against against

(32:57):
the Lions, there was a shaky three quarter against the Green.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Bay Let's see at the end of those games. I mean,
he was incredible. I mean, I'm not saying but real.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Shaky, real shaky up until the second half against.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Mahomes a little shaky for much of last year.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Mahomes and brock Purty are not the same human being.
I'm just saying, Okay, here's what I will say about
Brock Purdy. I'm very impressed with him. I think that
he can lead them to a double digit win season.
You look at their schedule, it's treachery. They play the
AFC East. I could see them very easily splitting against
AFC East two and two against that division. They play
against the Dallas Cowboys on their regular season roster. That

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is a very tricky game in the regular season. Typically
for the forty nine Ers, they play against the Green
Bay Packers on the road in the regular season. Jordan Love,
like I said, three tough quarters for Brock Purty against
the Packers. Jordan Love looked pretty good out there. I'm
just saying, there's treachery on this on this schedule, I
have the forty nine Ers at eleven wins, and I

(33:57):
don't even love that number. I was close to put
them down for ten. But I'll give them eleven wins
this season.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
All right. I have thirteen. Rich has eleven. Won't worry
you with the forty nine ers.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
I'm very annoyed because I actually thought about this pick
during the course of the week, and then yesterday's event
took place. And I don't want to invoke that in
what I say, but you also kind of can't help it.
The forty nine ers feel like a team that have

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every problem that a team that won the Super Bowl has,
except they didn't actually win the Super Bowl. They've dealt
with lockouts, offseason, holdouts all offseason. They finally got one done,
they still have to worry about another one rock Party
hasn't looked good, and obviously what happened yes today with
Racky Pierce all is something that's gonna have to be
addressed throughout the season and hope that everything's okay, but
that is still a distraction for your football team at

(34:51):
the end of the day. So I just I just
feel like there's a lot working against the San Francisco
forty nine ers in terms of winning their division again.
But they're also just probably a better team than everybody else.
So I'm gonna slot them in at probably twelve wins,
but it's gonna be a tough twelve win season for them.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
All Right, you have twelve Chris, where are you with
the Niners?

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (35:09):
I kind of agree with a lot with Bose saying
I'm glad to see them get the brand and I
you deal done, but I'm also very terrified that Trent
Williams still doesn't have a deal. It's just hard to
do this every year. It's hard to keep winning this division,
especially in the NFC West, every single year, and it
just it feels like, and I'm sorry, but like everything
you're saying about Brock Purdy is what we were saying

(35:31):
about Jimmy Garoppolo too. Like I can't. I can't have
that kind of blind trust in here with what the
forty nine ers do on quarterbacks. I have them down
at ten and seven, which is probably disappointing by their standards.
I mean, I had the Rams at eleven, which means
they're not gonna win the division. But yeah, they'll, they'll
be in the playoffs. They'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
But I do think they are slated to take a
small step back this year. All Right, MANCEI wrap this up.
Where are you with the Niners?

Speaker 7 (35:58):
I think it's it's do or die for the forty
nine ers this season. I see them winning just like
bo twelve games.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Twelve games, all right, So here's our rundown. I'll start
with yours. Truly, I have only one team out of
this division making the playoffs. Forty nine ers win the
NFC West, no wildcards, Rich, all right, I have.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Forty nine ers also winning the NFC West. However, I
do have a wildcard the Rams with ten wins, they'll
get in, all right.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
What do you got here, Bo?

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Yeah, and the Niners are gonna win the division. But
I do think the Rams are gonna be a wildcard team.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
All right.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
You got the Rams as a wildcard, Chris, No, I
have the Rams winning the division.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
San Francisco is a wildcard team, okay.

Speaker 7 (36:39):
And Monci, I only have the forty nine ers they
win the division, and I don't have the Rams.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
All right, So that is it. The NFC West is
now in the books.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
On the other side, as we get ready in the
next hour to move on to the NFC South. Got
a little update on college football after a big day
yesterday and some big question marks about the future of
Dabo Sweeney at Clemson. This is Fox Football Sunday, Steve Harvey,
Rich Rnberger, Fox Sports Sunday, actually now officially Fox Football Sunday,

(37:12):
and we are live from the Tyraq dot Com studios.
First full Saturday of college football yesterday, but we go
back well the day started really bad for Clemson.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
So they were competitive in the first half. Their defensive
front I thought outplayed Georgia in the first half, and
then the roof caved in in the second half and
Clemson walked off the field with a thirty four to
three loss. This is a Clemson team for the better
part of this decade has been in the conversation for
national championship, but the last three years have suddenly seen

(37:48):
this team fall way off that mark, and Dabo Sweeney
is insistent that the transfer portal is not the way
to go. He has made it clear that you need
to have unity on a team, and the only way
to have unity on the team is for them to
fight together year after year instead of bringing twenty five

(38:10):
different guys from twenty five different schools and trying to
get these college kids on the same page. He believes
it is a team unity situation that ultimately will win
and get Clemson back on top.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
You say, Rich, hey, Dabo, what do you call an
NFL coach who refuses to hire free agents?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Fired?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
That's what you call an NFL coach who refuses to
hire free agents. That's where we're at in college football.
It's free agency. Improve your roster, Dabo. Everybody else is
doing it. It's time to catch up with the time.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
What about chemistry. Chemistry is important. Guess what.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
You can be a chemist and add I don't know,
a catalyst like acid to a base like baking soda,
and then all of a sudden, boom, the volcano erupts.
It's it's chemistry when you add something, an ingredient that's
missing to something else.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Look, bread doesn't.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Rise unless you add yeast.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Okay, you have to have certain ingredients from the outside.
Even though you already have the flower and water, you
have that one little ingredient. It's a completely different tasting food.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Look, it adds another layer to what you're hired to
do and paid to do paid well.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Coach.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yes, So if you've got a situation where you got
a lot of new faces walking in the door and
they come from different programs, different systems from around the country,
your job as the coach is to put the pieces together.
So yeah, it would be a lot more difficult to
do that than have the same guys in your system
over two to three to four years. So it just

(39:48):
seems to me like he's almost asking because the buyout
on his contract is astronomical. It's like he's almost begging Clemson. Fine,
you want to let me go. I gotta take it
to the Hall of Fame. With the record I've had Clemson,
I could call it a day. Yeah, I don't really
get it. I liken it to furniture shopping.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
You may have a beautiful home, but it may be
missing a lamp in the corner, or a couch or
a love seat or a shay lounge in the backyard.
You go to a store, you pick it out, it
looks good on the showroom floor, bring it to your house,
and maybe it finishes the whole motif.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Dabbo.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
There's plenty of players who want to play at Clemson.
I'm sure go shopping, find some and then put that
damn couch or the patio furniture outside, and you're gonna
have a complete looking Uh what.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
What do you call it?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
A fench way.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
We're gonna turn our attention to the South. It was
the worst division in football last year. Will it be
the same? Find out?

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(41:16):
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Speaker 3 (41:20):
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Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh yeah, So you could check out our podcasts from
last week where we ran down the entire AFC. Today
we are focused on the NFC and giving our win totals,
playoff predictions, and everything else as far as the upcoming
twenty twenty four season is concerned.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
All right, guys, let's move on.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Let's not waste any time and move to the NFC South,
which a year ago was the worst division in football.
In fact, they've sort of been there the last couple
of years after the Buccaneers led by Tom Brady won
that Super Bowl. So this has been a division of change,
and we're going to start with a team that had
some big changes and that would be the Atlanta Falcons.

(42:02):
Atlanta Falcons a year ago won seven games. They made
a change at coach. A lot of people thought it
was going to be Build Belichick as the new coach
of the Falcons.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
It turned out to be Raheem Morris.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Raeye Morris has been a head coach before without a
lot of success, but he has been a very respected
coach in.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
This league for a number of years.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
They also acquired a quarterback by the name of Kirkussn's yep,
and a year ago before he blew his achilles. Let's
stress that blue his achilles. Statistically, he was having the
best year of his career. So this is a guy
that is capable. I don't know if you could term

(42:44):
him as an elite quarterback, but he's certainly in the
upper half of quarterbacks and the Falcons definitely have an
upgrade at that position. So my gut feeling on the
Atlanta Falcons, I'm going to give the thumbs up on
the Raheem Morris hiring. Yeah, and I'm gonna give a
thumbs up on the arrival of Kirk Cousins as a

(43:05):
major upgrade at the quarterback position. I'm taking the Atlanta
Falcons to turn a seven to ten record into a
ten and seven.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
So kay, all right, we are close on this one.
Everything you just said, I completely agree. The upgrades they've
made to the defense, one of the fiercest secondaries in
the league, certainly the best in that division. You look
at the offensive side of the ball, everything's there, everything's there.
Talk to anybody who just had a fantasy draft. Bijon
Robinson was one of the first players Moncey waving her

(43:36):
hand in the update anchor room. Everybody took Bjon Robinson
early in their drafts, and for good reason, because Kirk
Cousins can move the ball, he can create offensive momentum,
he can attack you on the deep end of the field.
So all of a sudden, defenses have to take players
out of the box. What's Bjon Robinson gonna do. He's

(43:58):
gonna feast all season long. So I'm a believer, A
big believer in Kirk Cousins, always have been. I'm a
believer in the offensive skill position players that they've had
in Atlanta haven't been able to unlock because they've had
such poor quarterback play. I have them at eleven wins
this season.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Wow, even better than I had, So I got ten
for Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Rich goes with eleven. Where are you bo?

Speaker 6 (44:26):
Kirk Cousins is thirty six years old coming off of
torn Achilles.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yeah, I was, I was, I was sailing.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I was a loft on the hopes and dreams of
Dirty Birds fans everywhere.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Then you bring up the Aaron Rodgers will be forty
one coming off of chill.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
That is also a little nerve wracking, I think. Yeah,
I auto drafted Bijon Robinson second overall in a fantasy
draft last night because I did not get the notification
that it had started. So I hope he's good this year.
But it's it's a little conte. Yeah, it's it's the
Atlanta Falcons. Like I just I can never believe in

(45:02):
the Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I just can't about What about Matt ryany what about
Matt Ryan VP.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
Remember to forget about second years ago, I forget about
the second half. Yeah, I think there's a real chance
that that city is clamoring for Michael Pennix Junior at
some point during the year if if kirk Cousins isn't
playing up to his contract. But it's also the NFC

(45:30):
South at nine, I'm gonna I'm gonna say ten wins.
I think they can win double digit yeahs.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
All right, So that's that's three with double digit wins
for the Atlanta Falcons. Chris Man.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
I really hate being I really want to buck the
trend on a lot of you guys.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
I just can't.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Uh yeah, I I you know, you bring up thirty
six and an Achilles chair with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
But that's why they got Penix.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yeah, I'm realizing in a very disgusting way, it's like, Okay,
maybe Pennix was actually a smart move for them.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
After all.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
I did not think I would ever get talked into that.
But I also think between those two quarterbacks, one of
them has got to unlock, probably Kyle Pitts and Drake London.
You know, they've had this quiet, very high powered offense
that is just because of who they have started. A
quarterback has refused to become unlocked. And they picked up
some they picked up some decent defensive talent along the way.

(46:22):
And that's kind of Raheem Morris's you know, whole specialty.
So I it's Atlanta. I mean, you bring up twenty
eight to three. Let's also talk about you know what
happened in the nineties when they went to the Super Bowl, Steve,
when Eugene Robinson gets popped.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
In Miami Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
So I think I think I passed him along the
way where he was going.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
So you were in the same area as Eugene Robinson
very much, did you back in the day in January
of ninety nine.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
Yeah, he was out, he was interesting. He was out
buying peaches, Chris Robinson. Chris reminds me that I also
drafted Kyle Pitts. So you got actually.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Correct seven one going with this another tie?

Speaker 1 (47:12):
All right?

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Just because you can't go, I think they're going to
make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I just cannot.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I can't talk myselves into double digits yet. Then the Falcons,
I wins a nine, seven and one. He's going with
all right, minds, where are you with Atlanta?

Speaker 7 (47:26):
I am a fan of Kirk Cousins as well. I
don't care that he's thirty six. I don't care that
he just had a major injury. He was delivering last season.
Finally had a great Monday or I don't know if
it was Monday night, but like a primetime game, which
was his kryptonite surpassed that. I think that the Falcons
have done a lot of very good moves to set

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themselves up for success, and just looking at their schedule,
I have nine for sure wins and three games that
I'm like they could win. So I have nine for
sure and three with question marks. I'm gonna say, let's
say eleven, just eleven.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Wow, Okay, here we go.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
So a lot of belief in the Atlanta Falcons to
start things off in the NFC South.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
Luda would be proud before before we move forward, the
Los Angeles Rams have hired Scott Frost in a advisor
football advisory role.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
So if anybody wants to off that win total.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
I'm feeling everything. I'm feeling better and better about my
pick for the Rams right now.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Well, that's I had a low number for the Rams.
You guys, Steve said seven wins. I had seven and
ten for the Rams.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
I said wins. I'm looking like a genius too late. No,
I'm just gonna say, can I add three more wins? No?

Speaker 3 (48:42):
You can't. All right, Scott Frost a sure winner?

Speaker 1 (48:45):
All right, Let's move on to the team that was
by far the worst team in the NFL a year ago.
That would be the Carolina Panthers. Can you imagine in
seventeen games they only scored two hundred and thirty six points.
Oh my god, in seventeen games games two hundred and
thirty six points. I mean, it just was unreal. How

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in at that offense was. Dad Canalis comes in, He's
an offensive guy. And by the way, he was a
guy that helped revive the career of Geno Smith in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
He did.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
He revived the career of Baker Mayfield and Tampa. He
brought him back to life, two guys that were considered done.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Oh trust me, this is the reason why they brought
him to Carolina.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
So can he revive a young quarterback like Bryce Yacht. Look,
I'm not gonna make any kind of playoff predictions for
the Panthers, but a lot goes into going two and fifteen.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I mean, nobody should be that bad in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
It's almost the opposite of like if you go fifteen
to two, like you're getting every single break going your way.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
I think they'll improve.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I think they Maybe maybe I'm stretching a little bit,
but I'm gonna get him all the way up to
six wins. So I'm gonna go Panthers at six and eleven.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
It's so funny. I do have a little method to
my men, and I landed at six wins. As you
were saying it, I was looking at their schedule, I
was looking at their depth chart. I was relitigating what
I saw last year out of Bryce Young, thinking about
Dave Canalis and what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers looked like.
And it wasn't like late in the season when it

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all jelled. Baker Mayfield out the gate looked like a
completely different guy. Sometimes you can present a really complex
offense to the defense, but you can simplify things for
your guys. You can have one word codes, you can
have things that just really sort of make it easy
to just get out there and play football and don't think.
And I think Dave Canalis has a system like that,

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so I like him as a coach. I'm not sure
if I'm sold on Bryce Young. There will be improvement,
but it'll only be to six wins. That's where I
sit with the Panthers.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
All right, So we both have six wins for the Panthers.
Where do you sit here?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Bo.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
It can't be any worse, right, Oh, I can't. They're
gonna have a last play schedule. Yeah, so it might
get better. But then you look at their schedule and
kind of feels like they did somebody wrong at the
NFL because they still have to play like the Chiefs,
the Eagles, the Cowboys, the Bengals. This is like a

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four win football team. But I do think you'll see
improvement from Bryce Young, okay, because I think you'll see
an offense that's actually molded around him. But there's just
not a lot you can do when you were that
bad to get competent in one year.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
All right, So you have aamy wins, four wins, all right,
Well they double their total, then, Chris, what do you say?

Speaker 3 (51:38):
So let me just get the wins?

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Right?

Speaker 5 (51:40):
You have what again, Steve? We have the two of
us have six, he has four, he has four. Okay,
I agree. They've tried to do some upgrades to help
out Bryce Young. Unfortunately, those upgrades come in the form
of Deontay Johnson and Xavier Lagette, who was a very
surprising selection for them at wide receiver at thirty two.
They also seem to be coming this land of misfit

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toys of thrown off old pieces of defenses like a
Shawn Robinson. And this might be the final port of
call for Jadavian Clowney, who used to be We used
to all think he was going to be something fantastic.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Uh J C. Horn.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
I know they picked up his fifth year option, but
he's already kind of looking pretty rough. I just I
want to believe they can get better. On the other hand,
not football teams just can't stay single digit. This single
digit bad for this long. And yet you look at
the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
And time out that's come from a Detroit Lions man.
They absolutely that long. They don't have Matt Millin all right,
they didn't like let's let's take it easy over here.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
They do have David Tepper Ye.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Yes, in the middle of their single digit run, they
had a no digit season. How about that.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
I mean Panthers could be on that road at some point.
I don't think it'll be this year. I think they
will upgrade to about like four wins.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
All right, So the twin on four we have six, moncey,
you're the tiebreak. Where do you go?

Speaker 8 (53:03):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (53:04):
I think they're gonna get a little bit better and
I think they're gonna lose games and they're gonna just
be a lot closer. They're gonna look like a better team.
But winning is not easy, right, I have like a
bunch of Oh they could win maybe, and you know,
there's gonna be some surprises, as there are every single year.

Speaker 8 (53:23):
I say that they win five games.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Okay, five games splits the difference.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
All right, all right, Well we're halfway home right now
on the NFC South. Coming up, we're gonna have the
Saints and the Buccaneers. Who ultimately is gonna win this division?
And could there be a surprise wild card out of
the NFC South. We continue to break it down. This
is Fox Football Sunday. Steve Harbin, Rich Armberger, this is

(53:49):
Fox Football Sunday, Bo Chris and Moncey an equal part
of this show today. As we are running down the
NFC South right now, we've got to wrap this thrown
up once again, we're live from the tire rack dot
Com studios. We mentioned, of course that the NFC South

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was by far the worst division in the NFL. Last year,
really the last couple of years, this has been a
week division. The question is is it going to be
any better in twenty twenty four. We've got an upgrade
so far. I think we all had upgrades on the Falcons.
We had upgrades on Carolina. So let's turn now to
the New Orleans Saints. This team, to me was one

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of the biggest enigmas in the league last year. I mean,
they had a nine and eight season, right, and they
had a big win to finish it off. The season
wasn't good enough to get him into the postseason, but
they finished well. I have friends of mine that, believe
it or not, are actually Saints fans, and they tell

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me the same thing. We can't get rid of Derek
Carr fast enough.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
We were also the consensus of the I would say
about two Saints fans that wandered the hall here at
Fox Sports Radio as well.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yeah, you can't get rid of Derek Carr fast enough.
When is Spencer Rattler going to be the quarterback of
the New Orleans Saints. This is what I'm hearing, right.
I have never been a Dennis Allen fan. I don't
know if it was his failed run with the Raiders
or whatever it might be, but to me, Dennis Allen
is such a non entity as a head coach. He's
such an anonymous guy for a guy that's been a

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coach for a couple times in the NFL, I don't
get it. I look at this team offensively, they were
actually ninth in the league in scoring, and they were
eighth in the league in points allowed. Yeah yeah, and
yet they were nine and eight. I don't buy it
with the Saints this year. I just think that this
is a team that's going to be looking for a

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new head coach after this season. I'm dropping the Saints
down to seven and ten in twenty Okay.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
So you and I once again with our win total
predictions are pretty close, almost in lockstep. I give them
eight wins. Here's the thing the Saints are. They're like
friend zoned in the NFL. You know, they're the guy
that the girl describes as nice, Like that's it. That's like,

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you know, and you don't want to be the guy
that a girl describes as yeah, he's nice.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Like that's not good. That's not good. You don't want
to be the nice guy. You want to be like
the oh, he's interesting.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
You want to be the interesting guy, like the Atlanta
Falcons all of a sudden, I mean, don't get me wrong.
He's got a dad bud, but it's Kirk Cousins. And
with all these young skilled position players, I mean, the
Falcons all of a sudden like America's Darling. The Saints
are nice and so with that, I think they are

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going to be hunting for a quarterback next year. Maybe
they have one on their roster that ends up carrying
the man for them. With Rattler, we'll see if he
pans out, if Derek Carr gets hurt. Dennis Allen, like
you said, is kind of anonymous as a head coach.
Nothing about the Saints impresses me.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
So eight wins, all right, I have seven rich as eight.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Where are you here?

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Well?

Speaker 6 (57:16):
I had the pleasure or misfortune depending on how you
want to look at it, of watching the Saints play
in person last year when they came out here to
play the Rams, that was just putrid. They're just not
a good football team. I don't think Dennis Allen survives
the first five weeks of the season because I don't
think his players like him at all. We all remember
that weird thing last year when they scored at the

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end of the game and players kind of threw him
under the bus and he threw his players under the bus.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
I just don't think anybody likes Dennis Allen.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
And by the way, to support your point, they start
the season with the Panthers, but then they go to Dallas,
then they host the Eagles, they go to Atlanta, and
then they go to Arrowhead.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah, so they could be one and four very easily
after that stress.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
That's not very pleasant. So yeah, and Derek Carr is
not the answer. I think we all know that by now.
I think the Saints are just due and they've been
kicking this can down the road since they won the
Super Bowl. I think they're they're due to finally bought
him out. I think they're gonna win three games as well.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Wow, three and four deep for the Saints.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
I wouldn't dismiss that idea.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
That seems extreme, but yeah, they could have that again,
Dennis out.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
They're just anonymous team right now.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
All right?

Speaker 3 (58:23):
So Chris, where are you with the Saints.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
I feel like the bottom has to fall out for
them to get better. I feel like they've got to
take some poison to like before they can really turn
around and become something else. Because, as you say, Derek
Carr's not the answer. But you know what the problem
is too, is that everyone's also fallen in love this
preseason with Spencer.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Ratler as well.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
This guy, Like, yeah, I don't know Spencer Ratler is
a starting quarterback right now in the NFL, but I
certainly root for him. I certainly think he's shown some
of the talent. But to Saints fans, it is absolutely
that your best friend in town is the quarterback that's
not starting, and that's gonna hang over this team problem
the entire year. At the same time, too, like you've

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got pieces that have been here forever in New Orleans
and you just wonder when the end of that that
road finally is how many more years are you going
to have Tyron Matthew, Alvin Kamara Like this, this kind
of feels like the end of an era, and it's
gonna be an ignominious end, just because like it's it's

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a purge that every team I feel like has to
go through to get to the next era. Like I
definitely saw it with the Detroit Lions after Patricia you
kind of had to clear the deck. You went through
some bad times, but hopefully you just come out the
other side. I don't think Dennis Allen is their coach
for the future at all either. I'm gonna put them
down for five wins, but again, I think it will

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be a constructive lesson for the Saints, but that this
is not a good team this year. The vibes are
bad in New Orleans. Everyone's starting to dust off the
brown paper bags like they like their forefathers used to wear.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
It's it's not gonna be great, Bob.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
All right, Well, the control room is got him combined
for eight wins.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
So where are you with the Saints heremanci?

Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
You know the Saints?

Speaker 7 (01:00:11):
Just to me, I'm like, what exactly am I looking
forward to?

Speaker 8 (01:00:16):
What is the upsell here with the Saints?

Speaker 7 (01:00:19):
And I have them losing their first five games. I
have the Panthers beating the Saints game one in my,
oh my, So I have the Saints.

Speaker 8 (01:00:29):
Five to start the season.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
That's a case Dennis l may be gone quicker than
we think. And I leave them in Kansas City.

Speaker 7 (01:00:37):
I have them winning six and I don't even like it,
all right, I don't even like it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:00:41):
I'm kind of with bow here. I feel like Bo
is onto something.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
All right, Let's let's wrap up this division right now. Guys,
we got the Tampa Bay buccant knives.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
So a year ago, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were a
big question mark. Tom Brady was gone and they bring
in Baker Mayfield, and no one could have probably envisioned
the kind of season that Baker Mayfield had unless you
actually know Baker Mayfield's career, right, every time that he
is literally on the extinction list. This was true in

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his college career and the same thing in his NFL career.
Just when you say it is over, I remember what
he's like, the third string quarterback for the Rams. Briefly,
he suddenly revives himself. This is how it operates with
Baker Mayfield. That being said, every time we then suddenly
jump on the Baker Mayfield bandwagon, he suddenly goes backwards

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and I can see this happening. Todd Bowles again, to me,
is a guy as a coach. His head coaching record
is literally the picture of mediocrity.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
They were eight and nine, they went to nine to eight.
Last year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
They got into the playoffs. You know, one of the
few teams actually do that over the last four years.
But it's not happening this year. I'm gonna put the
Buccaneers down a notch. I'll have them at eight and nine.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I don't even have to give my analysis because literally
copy and paste. Maybe I'll put it through chat GPT
so we don't have the exact same answers, and then
I'll submit it to my professor.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
But I don't like Todd Bowles.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I think Baker Mayfield is going to see regression against
a better schedule because they were a playoff team last
year who won. I think that this team is overrated.
I think that they're going to rest a little bit
on their laurels. They're gonna think they're better than they are,
and they're gonna get snuck up on several times throughout
this season. There's treachery all over this schedule. So yeah,

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I have them at exactly the same number eight wins
for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Eight to nine. Here, let's go to the control room, bo,
where are you with the Bucks?

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
As the charter member of the Baker Mayfield Fan Club
here at Foxworths Radio. This is just every Oklahoma quarterback
by the way, Yeah, no, the Bucks are winning twelve
games in this division.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Wow, oh okay, I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Hold on, where do I have that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Let me fine this year here it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Is all right, well I like it, mother of Pearl.
All right, so you you obviously you liked him to
win this division with twelve wins.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Yeah, Baker Mayfield. I think we could say Baker Mayfield
twenty twenty eight. Who is going to be his running mate?
Because both office.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Now you don't even know he I'll just ride him
in this year. What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I don't know if you Candy five, Well, my guess
if the Bucks win twelve games, he's in the MVP conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
Also, I need to see a birth certificate. There's a
couple of steps. Well, he's in the MVP conversation for
me every year, Steve, So all right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
All right, So over there it is Bogoes with twelve.
That's a big number. Chris, We're all over the map
here after that one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Yeah, I have the vapors. I'm gonna need a break.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
I need to cool off for a second. I will
say this is a fairly besides a couple of really
like rough oh Man right before the uh right before
their bye week in week eleven, this is a very
favorable schedule. I think for Tampa I think they're toughest
is they've got again, they've got that Kansas City forty
nine ers back to back before the bye, and then

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they've got to go on the road to play Dallas.
Other than that, I don't really think there's terribly too much.
They got to play Detroit early in the season. But like,
there's not a lot on here that screams like, oh no,
watch out, sorry bos.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
It looked like he was about to say something.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
Oh yeah, like after that Chiefs Niners back to back,
they play the Giants, the Panthers, the Raiders, the Chargers,
and then they go to Dallas by the Cowboys. Yeah,
they played the Panthers in the Saints. That's not Hart's
a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
They can mop up here. And let's let's give some
credits to their defense here, because Kalijah Canci is kind
of coming into his own. I vita Bay if he
can stay healthy, Like, this is a good Tampa Bay defense.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
On top of everything, what's that they have Antoine Winfield
or Antoine Winfield Junior? Like this is this is a
fine defense. I think you like you need to but numbers,
do we are thirteen? Do we are thirteen because I
like going to the rosters and give credit because we
focus too much in the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Baker Mayfield has Mike Evans. I cannot forget that he
has Mike Evans, and Mike Evans remains criminally underrated as
a top wide receiver in this league. I'm gonna put
them down to ten wins, all right? So you got
Tampa ten. So the control room on a much different
page than us. Where do you stand here, Monci?

Speaker 8 (01:05:26):
I went the control room. I have them winning like
eight and then.

Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
Two questionable ones that could get them to ten. So
I'm gonna split the difference. I'm gonna give you nine,
all right?

Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
Nine wins?

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
All right? So let's now go through our predictions on
who makes the playoffs again, like I did with the
NFC West, I only have one team out of this
division moving on to the postseason, and that will be
the division champion Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Same NFC South winners, the Falcons with eleven wins and
a lot of ho hum mediocrey with the Panther, Saints
and Bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
All right, where do you have bow What do you
got a winner? Do you have a wildcard?

Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
You have the Buccaneers winning the division obviously, and that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
And that's it. So the Bucks the sole team out
of here, Chris.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
I have the Buccaneers winning the division and I have
it nine to seven and one. The Atlanta Falcons into
the playoffs. They get that, it's the third wildcard. They're
the number seventh seed in the That means.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
One of these other divisions is going to be yes, Craft, Yes,
So who do you have winning the South and do
you have a wildcard?

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:06:36):
No, I have the Falcons winning the South and no wildcard,
no wildcard.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
All right? Coming up on the other side, Well, this
is one we're gonna have to brace ourselves, especially for Chris,
and that would be the NFC North. But first, let's
find out what is trending right now, Moncey, it's been
a busy day.

Speaker 8 (01:06:54):
Yes, let me get my other document up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Hold on a second, all right, take your time, hurt
all day?

Speaker 8 (01:07:00):
Yeah, oh, this is true, this is true.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
All right, we only have until two pm.

Speaker 8 (01:07:04):
Okay, fair enough, Monty, Okay, perfect, let's start.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
In baseball, the Yankees have activated first baseman Anthony Rizzo
after eleven weeks on the IL due to a right
four on fracture. That he's suffered in a collision with
the Red Sox. The Yankees right now are beating the
Cardinals two to one top of the fourth inning. Gian
Carlos stand with home run number twenty four on the season.
The Cubs, who are four games out of the final
walldcard spot in the National League, are currently beating the

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Nationals four.

Speaker 8 (01:07:29):
To one bottom of the fourth inning. The Brewers and
the Reds are tied still at three apiece top of
the eighth inning.

Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
The Red Sox Tigers, who are out of the Red
Sox for three and a half games out of the
final waldcard spot in the AL so but they're scoreless
in the top of the fifth. Guardians are beating the
Pirates three zero top of the fifth as well, Padres
and Rays scoreless bottom of the second, and the Mets
and the White Sox scoreless top of the third as well.
With the Blue Jays up on the Twins one.

Speaker 8 (01:07:52):
Zero top of the second inning, Let's check in on
the us so but and it's the round of sixteen.

Speaker 7 (01:07:57):
American Taylor Fritz, who is a twelve seed taking on
Casper Rude, the eighth seed in this one. Fritz lost
the first set he is up on the second set.

Speaker 8 (01:08:07):
Five games to four. Again, this is the round of sixteen.

Speaker 7 (01:08:09):
Later on and a little bit on the women's side,
Cocoa Golf is going to take on Emmenovarro in their
fourth round match at the Tour Championship in Golf. Scotti
Scheffler yes still in the lead at twenty seven under
par overall. He has won under through six holes for
the day, but Colin Morikawa creeping back. He is now
only five shots back of Scotty cheff Fleur. He is

(01:08:30):
one under through six holes for the day.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Back to you, guys, all right, mon see, very very good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
All right, So we are halfway home now in our
rundown of the NFC. By the way, by show's end,
we're going to have the winners of the two conference
championship games and yes, our Super Bowl predictions by the
end of today's show. We'll have the complete roster by

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the end of today, all right, So let's move now
to the NFC North guys, and this is a really
a division that's been flipping all over the place with
the emergence of the Lions. Obviously, the Packers revived last
year with Jordan Love having a phenomenal first season as
a full time starter. The Vikings coming off the year

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where they were eleven to zero one score games and
it caught up with them a year ago, they have
a new quarterback situation, and then you have the Chicago Bears,
and alphabetically we will start with those Chicago Bears. Here's
one thing I want to keep in mind with the
Bears last year. I mean, you think, well, first pick
in the draft, but that was Carolina's pick. Remember this

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is a team that started last year zero to four
and they finished seven to ten. So that means they
were seven and six over their last thirteen games. And
at the very least, that tells me that iber Flus
was able.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
To hold on to this team. He didn't lose this team.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
I mean, when you start zhing four coming off a
bad year, the wheels could come off. Oh yeah, and
they didn't, which is why he's stilled the coach of
the Bears. And now he's been handed a quarterback Caleb
Williams that I'm not going to predict any kind of
c J. Stroud rookie season because to me, that's a
once in a lifetime But the idea of upgrading and

(01:10:19):
quarterback is a one hundred percent yes for the Chicago Bears.
I believe that Caleb Williams is special. And if you
look at his numbers a year ago, when he was
basically told each game, you need to put up fifty
for us to have a chance to win. As bad
as USC's defense was, his numbers were more than respectable.

(01:10:42):
So not only do I have the Bears flipping that
seven and ten to ten and seven, I have the
Chicago Bears in the playoffs. Matt Eberflus rated as the
favorite to be NFL Coach of the Year, and it
could very well happen. I have the Bears ten and
seven and making the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
The bust rate for first round draft picks is insanely high. Yep,
only forty percent of these guys become franchise quarterbacks. Okay,
and it's actually less than that. It's somewhere hovering around
thirty seven to thirty eight percent. The Bears may have
found their draft pick, their franchise quarterback, the quarterback of

(01:11:28):
the future to usher in many years, maybe decades, of
success in the NFC North, but odds tell you a
different story. As good as players are at the collegiate level.
It is really hard to make this transition. I'm not
sold that he's the guy until I see that he's
the guy. And so with that, and considering that the
Bears outside of the quarterback position are pretty good roster.

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That's a pretty decent defense, that's a really talented offense.
But it's all going to hinge on Kleb Williams. And
if you play the numbers, if you look at probabilities,
chances are he's not the guy. So I'm going with
seven wins. Bears are probably looking to replace a head coach,
and the start of Caleb Williams's career is probably gonna
look a lot like a quarterback. We were just talking
about Baker Mayfield where he has a head coach for

(01:12:14):
a short time than another head coach, and maybe that
doesn't work out. It's gonna be a little herky jerky
to start with seven wins for the Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
All right, So I have ten wins and the playoffs,
which has seven wins?

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
No playoffs? Bo where are you?

Speaker 6 (01:12:26):
I just first with like to say that I've never
heard Chris Profett as quiet as he is right now.
So he is gathering his thoughts of Chicago. Oh no, no,
I have I have thoughts about this team, don't I've
thoughts about the city. I'm I'm kind of with Rich.
I think the transition to the NFL is going to
be much tougher for Caleb Williams than people imagine. But

(01:12:46):
I think you see in the Flashes that he is
the guy that went first overall for a reason. The
thing with the Bears is their schedule, much like the
rest of the NFC North, all their divisional games are backloaded,
so they have a big chance to stack some wins
early and then play those tough games. But you're lucky
if you if you split divisional games. So I'm with Rich.

(01:13:10):
I think they're going to go seven and ten. I'll
they'll go eight and nine.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
All right, So he's giving a little tick up eight
and nine.

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
And the one thing I'll say is like, I don't
think Matt Eberflus has come off particularly well in Hard Knocks.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Have you watched it at all? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:13:23):
I agree, Yeah, he kind of just does not seem
like a head coach in the NFL. So eight and
nine and the Bears could be looking to replace that
head coach.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
All right, Chris where are you with the Bears.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
When I hear Chicago media starts to really get their
hopes up, I start to start to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Turn the knob down.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
And this has been an incredible season and off season
of hype for the Chicago Bears, just like they had
last year where they were saying that they were going
to be twelve wins with Justin Fields. You turn the
knob down on Chicago people. Why because much like the Raiders,
they sit around and gloat about rusted, tarnished trophies from
the nineteen flip eighties. I do not care about the Bears.

(01:14:03):
I think that this is all just a lot of
gas up everyone. I know they finished the end of
the year very well, and I do love Caleb Williams
as a USC quarterback and everything. But until you actually
produce it, I don't want to hear from Chicago people
because you all line up and drink the electricool aid
every flipping year like it's Lake Michigan is made from it.

(01:14:27):
I'll give me eight wins.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Eight wins for the Chicago Bears. All right, Moncey, where
are you?

Speaker 8 (01:14:34):
I'm kind of with the fellows over here.

Speaker 7 (01:14:37):
I have them between eight and nine wins a couple
of question marks they just played. They play the Packers
a lot in their division and you're not gonna win
all of them. So but I believe a little bit
of the hype.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
I do believe a little bit.

Speaker 8 (01:14:51):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
I feel like they just drafted justin fields.

Speaker 8 (01:14:57):
I'm gonna say they go nine and eight eight.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Yeah, at least the winning record.

Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
Which I think, to be clear, is very fair for
the Chicago Bears given where they have been and hope to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
On the other side, would continue our focus on the
NFC South and less backup folks, because it's going to
be Chris's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
North. Oh North, I say South. I'm sorry, I was
looking at the South.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
NFC North. I know, I know Chris would jump in
because you know which team is next. Oh yeah, that
would be the Detroit Lions. Are Are they for real?
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(01:16:14):
someone's got plenty to say about them. Are the Lions
for real? I'll put it this way, Dan Campbell's for real.
Twelve wins a year ago, I think they hold steady.
Another twelve wins season for the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Rich Wow, wow, Yeah, not a lot of misses when
you look at their schedule, it's interesting. I'll be a
little bit longer than you were here with the Lions,
and then I really want to get out of the
way for Chris Purfett to take over. But there are
some tricky games, a rematch against a playoff team that
gave them fits in the Buccaneers. That was a closer
game than I'm sure Dan Campbell was comfortable with. They

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start the season against the Rams. They're hosting both those
teams early in the year, you know. So, I mean,
you look at some of these games and you say, Okay,
some of these were near misses last year, and the
Lions struggled at times, but they got the W's. Look,
if we say it's hard to win you know, twice

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in your division and they split there and you play
seventeen games, I think I agree with you. You gotta
find two more losses on that schedule, I'm sure at least.
So I'll give them. I'll give the Lions a twelve
win season. That is one of the most dominant rosters
in the NFL. They have the best offensive wine in

(01:17:33):
the NFL and a defense to back up well actually,
and corrections to a defense a year ago and that
needed some especially in the secondary this offseason. So I'm
a big Lions honk. I got them at twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Wins, all right. We have two twelve wins here, bo.
I think they're gonna win fourteen games. Wow, Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:17:51):
I think the Lions are just The Lions might be
the best team in football when all is said and done.
They were a bad half away from going to the
Super Bowl last year, and they fixed a lot of
their issues and addressing their secondary. Dan Campbell's legit. All
that kneecap stuff is in the past, and anyone that
doesn't recognize that Dan Campbell's one of the top five
head coaches in football needs to get their eyes checked.

(01:18:15):
The issue with the Lions, and I think buying into
them is if you still have doubts about Jared Goff,
but like, who cares if he's assistem quarterback? If they
win games, I think they're gonna win a ton of
games this year.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
All right, fourteen that's a big number, all right?

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
Chris so Bo reprimanded me in the studio after I
took the battle axe to the City of Chicago and
then gave them five like about five hundreds. So I've
got to kind of go off the top rope, don't I.
This is a team that, yeahs as Rich said, they've
completely overhauled their secondary. As someone who covers the team
the best, the most we were talking about in preseason
was questions about quarterback three and whether or not their kicker,

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who can hit hit from like sixty five sometimes misses
thirty and if that's a bad thing. But guess what,
Dan Campbell just goes front and fourth down.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
He's not exactly like a field goal guy here to
start with. So there's no drama here. This is a
team that really entered a new era. I wish I
could keep gushing on with them, but I keep looking
at the clock ticking down. I know MONSI has to
talk to the most dominant offensive line of fixing a
massive problem with their defense, and with Bo chiding me

(01:19:20):
about tempering my expectations to reality, I'm gonna throw that
all out the window.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
I feel the master. I feel it. Sixteen in one wow.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Okay, okay, you know what, Bo raised the bar to fourteen.
You had to go high. Some guy who's claiming a
Bears hat around here is putting them at fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
I need to suddenly leap over him. Yeah that's a
good point.

Speaker 8 (01:19:45):
Well, I'll be quick here.

Speaker 7 (01:19:46):
I think the Lions are the real deal, but I
also think teams around them have also gotten better.

Speaker 8 (01:19:52):
That's the problem.

Speaker 7 (01:19:53):
I have them winning eleven with two questionable ones that
could take them up to thirteen, So.

Speaker 8 (01:19:58):
I'm gonna go twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Well, all right, so three twelves of fourteen and yes,
a sixteen and one all right. On the other side,
the other half of the NFC North, we got the
Packers and we have the Vikings coming up, and then
we'll have one more division to get into in the
NFC before we make our final picks on who's going
to be all the playoff teams in the NFL, which

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Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
So we'll have every base covered.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Now. The only question I do have is this, which
we were talking about this yesterday Montsey and I on
Fox Football Saturday. I'm gonna ask you go ahead, so
we know that Tom Brady will be elevated to the
analyst on the number one team with Kevin Burkhart. By
the way, Greg Olsen did a pretty good job.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
I thought Greg Olsen's analysis was peerless. I thought he
was the best doing it last year.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Absolutely, because let's face it, Romo is falling off that
Mantle and I think Olsen right now is as good
as it gets. But they have a dilemma right now
with Tom Brady because of his possible ownership share.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
With the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
If approved, he will literally be banned from talking to
any coach, player, anyone associated with any other team to
prep for broadcasting the number one game on Fox television. So,
as a man that's been an analyst for a lot

(01:22:31):
of years, and I know you do your homework and
you do a lot of prep and everything else. How
much would Tom Brady lose if he literally has to
walk into the studio cold and just basically analyze what
he's seeing as the game is going.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
You lose a tremendous amount.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
You lose the ability to storytell from the first person perspective,
if you lose the ability to talk about the feeling
inside the facility, the feeling on the practice field. So
say one of the teams that he's broadcasting for is
going through a rough stretch, lost two games in a row,
maybe three in a row, maybe one in three through

(01:23:17):
the last four games. When you have an analyst who's
attending a practice as part of their pregame production and says, yeah,
but you wouldn't be able to tell that that was
a one in three team through the last four weeks,
going to their practice, high energy, everybody's bought in this, coaches,
the message is being sent, it's well received. Those things. Okay,

(01:23:38):
I just spoke right there for ten seconds. But something
like that tells an incredible story about perseverance. About the
resilience of a team. He's not going to have the
ability to speak candidly about what a team looks like,
feels like, sounds like outside of what he can observe
on film. It is a huge deterrent for Tom Brady

(01:24:00):
to either throw in and invest in one of these teams.
And maybe that's what the owners want, maybe they don't want.
Maybe they want to keep it a closed culture where
we've never had a former player owner before, at least
not to my knowledge.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Well there have been former player owners, but not of
tom Brady's caliber.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
No, No, definitely, not of tom Brady's calacter. Nobody near caliber,
nobody nearly as famous as him now. Or maybe they're
kind of saying, hey, pick your poison. You want to
be a broadcaster, be a broadcaster. It helps our league.
We would love for you to be an ambassador of
our league in that way. You want to be an owner,
be an owner, that's fine, we would love you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
But the NFL royalty seven million dollars a year to
be that guy. Okay, buts to wing it during a game.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Yes, But let's face it, if the NFL, if you
have the kind of money to invest in the NFL
and the NFL except Malady.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
He's the biggest name in the business. The question is
he such a big name he can get away with it?

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Okay, can he get away with it? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Will there be something missing from his broadcast that other
broadcasters will be able to have in the golf bag
so to speak. Yeah, he's gonna be missing some clubs.
It's like it's like going out there in the rest
of the field is playing with fourteen clubs and you
only have nine, and you it's like, Okay, good luck
putting without a putter.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
That's what it feels like. That's what it feels like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
The NFL setting up Tom Brady for if he becomes
a minority owner with the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Well, I know one thing that will help Tom Brady if
he's a regular on our Sunday show.

Speaker 6 (01:25:31):
I was literally about to say, as you guys were
having this discussion to take the listeners behind the glass.
I am currently emailing with the representative to try and
get Tom Brady on the Sunday shows with us here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
So we'll see how it works out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Back in the day, Joe Buck was regular, Tory Jeigeman
was a regular, Kevin Burkhart's been a regular. I mean
we've had all the Greg Olson obviously. How many times
we have Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Olsen on quite a few.

Speaker 6 (01:25:53):
I did give them Rich's phone numbers for Social Security numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Sorry, good, excellent, Yeah, we're gonna have to run that through, all.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Right, Social secret.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
This all again next week. Every let card All right,
let's get back to our breakdown of the NFC North.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Next up, the Green Bay Packers. Remember when Matt Lafleur was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Higher by the Packers and there are some questions like
he's like almost the same age as Aaron Rodgers and
what can he do? And then all of a sudden,
Aaron Rodgers after a down year his back to back
MVP seasons, and then it became like, well, who makes
you like is Aaron Rodgers making Matt Lafleur? And then
we saw Jordan Love last year and his first year

(01:26:32):
as a starter suddenly put a huge number second the
league in touchdown passes. Matt Lafleur's career records a head
coach is fifty six and twenty seven. Let me repeat that,
fifty six and twenty seven. He's been in the playoffs
four times and won three Division titles in five years.
There's no reason to think it's gonna change now. I

(01:26:54):
think the Green Bay Packers, who snuck into the playoffs
and nine wins and then dominated the Cowboys on the road,
are only going to get better. I have the Packers
jumping up to eleven wins this year and very much
securing eight playoff position.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
All right, so I swear we are not looking at
each other's sheets. Nobody's cheating off each other in this room.
I have the exact same number of wins for the Packers.
I think Matt Lafleur, I literally have this written down.
Matt Lafleur underrated under way, and Matt Lafleur is one
of the most underrated coaches in the NFL. What he's

(01:27:32):
been able to do not only successfully taming Aaron Rodgers
as much as he could during his final years, but
also handling a really clunky transition, not by his own doing,
of course, because Aaron Rodgers obviously made it difficult, just
like Brett Farve his predecessor. It was clunky, But in

(01:27:52):
the meantime he kept the main thing, the main thing,
which was making sure that Jordan Love was going to
be the best possible football player when he took over
for Aaron. And guess what, he's one of the top
qbs in this league. He's getting paid that way. He's
earned that money, and good for him and good for
Matt Lafleur. So yeah, I'm with you, Lockstep. I think
they improve on last year. That's an eleven win.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Team, all right, what do you say, Bo?

Speaker 6 (01:28:16):
You hear a lot about like how Jordan Love finished
the year last year and how spectacular he was, But unfortunately,
there's more than just the last few weeks of football season,
Like there were games that happened before that, And I'm sorry,
I don't know if Jordan Love is worth the contract
that he got just yet. I would like to see
it this year. But I still think they're a ten

(01:28:38):
win team this year. But I'm just not sure that
we're rightfully putting Jordan Love in that upper echelontic quarterbacks
just yet.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
All right, So not quite there yet, not to the
level Rich and I are with the Packers. Where are
you right now?

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Chris with the Green Bay Packers?

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
I hate them, so start with that. But a really
tough division for him.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
But I mean, can we Bo brings up the other
games where Jordan Love wasn't good. Can we also bring
up like that final drive against in the playoffs where
he's just scrambling for getting every fundamental and throwing across
his body Like, I'm not ready to anoint Jordan Love
just yet. I you know, you lose aj Dillon for
the year. I've never been impressed with their wide receiver corps,

(01:29:24):
like Christian Watson still needs to find that next next
set to really be something interesting. Josh Jacobs is fine,
but I've got no problems with their defense. I've got
some questions about how for real we're really going to
see with his offense here and again, I think much
like the Bears, people drink the Green Bay Jungle juice

(01:29:46):
a little too quickly and start bringing up old hoary
pictures of Vince Lombardi to throw up there on the screen.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
I know I'm not buying it. I'm just not. I've
got I've got nine wins for them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Only nine and eight, honestly where they were a year ago?
Nine and eight?

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
All right, Monci, where are you with the pack?

Speaker 8 (01:30:05):
And kind of with Chris on this one.

Speaker 7 (01:30:07):
I have them winning nine, but there's three questionable losses
that I've written down that they that they could win,
but I wrote down initially nine.

Speaker 8 (01:30:18):
So with the three question marks I have, let's move
it up to ten. Why not ten and seven?

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
All right, ten and seven?

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
So here is now time to talk about these Minnesota Vikings.
Oh boy, all right, so you talk about how fortunes
can change. So two years ago, miraculously they had to
be the worst thirteen win team ever.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
They were outscored. Think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
They were thirteen and four and gave up more points
than they scored eleven and zero in one score games.
And that ended with that ugly playoff loss at home
to the Giants. Can you imagine the Vikings and Giants
in the playoff game two years ago? Anyway, and last
year they came back to earth with seven and ten
after the injury, of course, to Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
I don't think they could have imagined the kind of money.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
That Atlanta was going to throw at Kirk Cousins. I
think they were fully expecting the Kirk Cousins is going
to be their quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
They draft JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
And his season ends immediately, so there will be no
JJ McCarthy this year. That means it's Sam Donald, Sam Donald,
Sam Donald, Sam Darnold is guy that can make some
plays happen. Unfortunately they're not all positive. And I think
it's going to be a prime example of that. As

(01:31:30):
good as I think this division will be, it's going
to be that rough for the Vikings seven and ten
last year, I think you might have to drop him
down to six and eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Okay, Rich wins for the Vikings for Steve all right,
I'm gonna be a little bit kinder to them. I
know you believe in Sam Dnal A big believer in
Sam Donald, always has been. I echo Kyle Shanahan's statements
when he said Sam Donald the best arm of any
quarterback who's ever played for the San Francisco forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
You can look it up. That is an actual quote.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Yeah, Sam Perry, de Brockberty, and Jimmy, I mean, well,
he's he was talking about the history of the Niners,
which includes Young and Montana.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
So yeah, I digress there to say this about it
better than Whye tittle John Brody, That's right, better than Brody.
Actually you should you should see.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Sam Donold's Toyota Yaris that he drove to Vikings camp.
With He has a bumper sticker that says better than Brody,
better than Brod. Yeah, it's crazy. Anyways, Uh back to
the Vikings. Look, you can count on one hand how
many wins outside their division they're gonna have. They might
beat the Seahawks, they might beat the Titans, they might
beat the Colts. They probably will beat the Giants because

(01:32:47):
they're awful. If they split the division, that's seven wins.
If so, I'm close to siciding with you at six wins.
I'll say seven because the NFL is a tricky thing.
Seven wins for the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Well, you say split the division. I don't see that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
But anyway, all right, so you have seven, I have six.
Where are you on this one?

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Both?

Speaker 6 (01:33:12):
I think Kevin O'Connell is a real head coach in
the NFL, But much like Gino Smith, I cannot buy
into Sam Donald suddenly being good this late into his career.
And I understand that he has Justin Jefferson and theoretically
we'll have Jordan Addison, but it's just tough for me
to be fully bought in on Sam Donald. I think

(01:33:34):
they're gonna win five games this year.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Wow, yeah, even less than I yea.

Speaker 6 (01:33:38):
Not feeling the Vikings this year, all right, and you
can't forget the Patrick penalty too, So that's yeah, four
wins wins.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Now, Okay? Is that your official number? Four thirteen for
the Vikings, Chris.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
I'm kind of boxing into a corner because I've been
way too generous with the Packers and the Bears, even
though I've had a lot of mean things to say
about their respective franchises. Vikings fans weren't really upsetting me
until last year, where they started calling the Lions dirty
because like they got hit once or something, and it's like,
oh my god, that's actual.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
Oh my, you can't do that to us.

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
Oh the Minnesota nice evaporated too quickly, And I know
I'm getting very personal with this, but like, yeah, I
don't think you can talk me to any universe in
liking Sam Darnold. I'm sorry to Justin Jefferson owners out
there in fantasy.

Speaker 10 (01:34:25):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
Not going to be a very productive year with that
man at the Helm. But more than that, it just
feels like if the Vikings need a cleanse to they
they I think Bo and I were talking about this
even last year. They kind of really need to hit
rock bottom before they can really turn around and actually
be like a real team again. And they've kind of

(01:34:46):
been circling this. They've patched up things and looked impressive,
but I don't think that's gonna happen this year. Tying
in the Patrick penalty as well. Five wins, five wins, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
All right, mind seeing not a lot of faith in
the Vikings right now?

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Where do you stand?

Speaker 7 (01:35:01):
I mean, I understand why there's no faith in the Vikings,
and I really feel like JJ McCarthy's injury.

Speaker 8 (01:35:05):
Was kind of like, uh, setting the tone for the
type of season, that little bit of a omen exactly
for what the Vikings are going to do. I really
don't know what Sam Darnold is capable of.

Speaker 7 (01:35:17):
I'm not saying he can't do it, but I don't know,
so I can't rely on him.

Speaker 8 (01:35:23):
But I am putting them at seven wins for this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
All right, a little more faith at least they get
to seven wins where they.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Were the Patrick penalty to the Vikings this year.

Speaker 8 (01:35:31):
Yeah, no, I mean I did. I had that.

Speaker 7 (01:35:33):
So I have six wins for sure, and then three
games where I'm like, may maybe.

Speaker 8 (01:35:38):
You know what I mean? So I'm going to seven.
I have three questionable games.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
So I think the Patrick penalty is about like what
one and a half game?

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
I'm not going to be happy, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
So here is here is our comfort in the Seahaw.
All right, So let's run down our picks in the
NFC North. I am I'm going all in on the
NFC North this year. I have the Lions winning the division,
and I have both the Packers and the Bears as wildcards.
That's right, the best division save the Vikings. Three teams

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come out of this division and make it to the postseason.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
Rich.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Yeah, I got the Bears and Vikings taking up the
bottom of the division with seven wins, and then the
Lions are at the top with twelve wins. NFC North winners,
Packers second place, but sneak in, actually don't sneak in comfortably?
Cruise in as an eleven win team to the wildcard.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
All right, Lions win it. Packers are in as a wildcard.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
How about you both, Lions and Packers.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Lions and Packers, how about you? Chris Uh, I'm trying
to do the math in my head.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:42):
No, I've got the Lions and just just narrowly getting
in the Packers on a tie break.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
All right, so the Packers do get in as a wildcard.

Speaker 7 (01:36:49):
Monci Lions win the division, and I do have the
Packers and the Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Okay, and be like me, okay, all right? Well three
and one to go finally, and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
This is Bo's territory.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
The NFC East, a division that has not seen a
repeat winner in twenty years, oh bit, twenty years since
a team won back to back, and the East Championships
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focus the NFC. By the end of our show today,
we will have everything in the books, who's going to

(01:38:14):
be in the playoffs, who's going to be in the
conference championship games, who's going to be in the Super Bowl,
and who is going to win the Super Bowl, all
shared on this very program today. Yeah, it's an exercise.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
I think that's kind of fun, especially when you get
to the quarter point of the season, the midpoint of
the season. You know, you get toward the end, Reviewing
what you thought the season was going to look like
prior to the season and having a written account is
something that if you're big enough sports fan, it is.
It is an interesting exercise because what it does is

(01:38:47):
it highlights how volatile the NFL truly is and how
much parody the NFL truly has the fact that they
have a hard cap and a draft. It creates a
lot of I guess you would say equality amongst these
teams that is really missing from other leagues. Now, you
could complain about it from the standpoint and perspective of

(01:39:10):
a player the NFL Union, the players union, they probably
have the worst deal amongst all the other players, or
I should say all the other leagues. And if you
think about it from a hard cap standpoint, baseball doesn't.
And we're going to soon see our first billion dollar
athlete out of that sport. That'll happen before twenty thirty.

(01:39:31):
So it does create a lot of parody though it does.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
It does. Indeed, all right, guys, I'll tell you what.
Let's let's find out what's trending.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
A little early.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Yes, that way we could get a fresh start on
the other side, because alphabetically we're going to start with
the Dallas Cowboys in the NFC East.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
But first, moncie, what is happening?

Speaker 7 (01:39:51):
A little breaking news and positive breaking news with forty
nine Ers wide receiver Ricky Pearsall, who was shot yesterday
in the chest in an attemptive r The mom posted
on social media today that he was shot in the chest,
the bullet went through out didn't hit any organs well.
An update from the forty nine Ers. He has been
released from the hospital this afternoon, so he is on

(01:40:14):
his way home.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
He literally has a shot go right through his body
and he was walking.

Speaker 7 (01:40:20):
I mean, if that's not a G, I don't know
what is I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
So catch me up on this story because I saw
the headline. Yes, so he was in a some tussle
with a guy that was trying to rob him.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
There was a gun involved, and the shot went right
through like his upper chest, and he like and did
he walked him and then.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
He was walking.

Speaker 8 (01:40:38):
He wore an ambulance.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
He walked to the ambulance to be kidding, a bullet
that went right through his body and you could see he's.

Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
Like talking to someone like it's unreal.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Oh my god. Yeah, Like, come on.

Speaker 8 (01:40:50):
If that's not If that's not a G, I really
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
What is it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
It's just like he's already out of the hospital. I
literally had a bullet go right through his body. I
think I'm gonna draft him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
I have a fantasy draft coming up right, you know,
next Wednesday. I mean, anybody who can withstand that I
think deserves a feel good about that first round?

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
There?

Speaker 7 (01:41:09):
One thousand percent? Yeah, so really good news, are there. Yes,
let's move on to the US Open. American Taylor Fritz,
who is a twelve seed taking on.

Speaker 8 (01:41:18):
Caspar Rude who is the eight seed. They split their
first two sets.

Speaker 7 (01:41:22):
In the third set, though Taylor Fritz has come alive,
he is currently up. Let me see the final spray
here because now, of course they give me a commercial.
He's up six games to two right now on the
third set. This is the fourth round match. On the
ladies side, Cocoa Golf and emin of R are gonna be,
are gonna be? I was gonna say, teen off are
gonna be in their fourth round match in about maybe
an hour or so.

Speaker 8 (01:41:42):
They're supposed to have their fourth round match at the
Tour Championship.

Speaker 7 (01:41:45):
Scottie Scheffler still in the lead twenty seven twenty eight
under par overall.

Speaker 8 (01:41:50):
Excuse me to under through eleven holes for the day.

Speaker 7 (01:41:53):
Colin Moricawa is still five shots back. In baseball, Let's
check out how this is going. The Yankees are still
losing at home to the Cardinals sevent to four, bottom
of the fifth inning. The Cubs are beating the National
six to one, top of the seventh inning. The Red
Sox still trying to get into that wildcard, but the
Tigers are now on top four to one, bottom of
the six all Guardians against the Pirates four to one

(01:42:14):
bottom of the seventh. The Padres have scored first against
the Rays three zero, bottom of the fourth inning. The
Astros are beating the Royals three zero, top of the fifth.
Francisco Lindor with a solo shot for the Mets. They're
up on the White Sox in Chicago one zero, bottom
of the fifth. Blue Jays also won zero against the Twins.
Bottom of the fourth. The Orioles have scored first against
the Rockies in Colorado.

Speaker 8 (01:42:35):
It is one zero, top of the second inning. Yeah,
back to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Hi monci, Here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:42:41):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
We get to the NFC East, one more division to
break down for the upcoming twenty twenty four NFL season,
and we'll start with the Dallas Cowboys. As always, a
very interesting offseason for Jerry Jones crew. This is a
team now twenty nine years removed, not only from their
last Super win, they haven't even been in the conference
championship game in twenty nine years.

Speaker 6 (01:43:08):
Steve, I have a question for you real quick. Yeah,
are you do an alphabetical by city or by team name?

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
By city? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
I was confused, Yeah, just st okay, So otherwise I
know you're like the Commanders. I still have a hard
time with that name. That's like a fake name.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
But whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
So the Dallas Cowboys Division winners a year ago. I
mentioned it's been twenty years since Andy Reid led the
Eagles to four consecutive NFC East championships between one and
oh four, and since then, not a single team has
won back to back NFC East championships. So I mentioned
a very busy offseason for the Cowboys. To me, the

(01:43:46):
biggest story out of this offseason no contract extension for
Dak Prescott. Right, Jerry Jones said he's not extending his deal,
which means technically he will be a free agent after
this season.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
A guy that was runner up for MVP a year ago.
Will this motivate Dak Prescott?

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
Will this have an adverse effect on this Dallas Cowboys team?
You may be surprised that I believe it's going to
have a positive effect on the Dallas Cowboys. This was
the highest scoring team in the National Football League a
year ago. They had the second highest point differential in
the NFL a year ago. Yeah, they laid an egg

(01:44:26):
in the playoffs and against the Green Bay Packers, but
for the regular season, this was absolutely one of the
best teams in the NFL a year ago, and the
principals are all back, and I think we will see
a very motivated Dak Prescott. I like the Dallas Cowboys
a lot this year. Twelve and five a year ago,

(01:44:48):
with a couple of bottom feeders in this division, I
think they actually tick up. I'm going to have the
Dallas Cowboys at thirteen and four.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Thirteen wins for the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, here's the problem
for the Dallas Cowboys. The problem is the discord that
Jerry Jones has created to start this season. Not signing
Dak Prescott is a problem. I don't think that Dak Prescott,
if you look at his playoff resume, is a type
of player who plays exceedingly well when the pressure is on.

(01:45:23):
He is a lame duck. He is playing for his
contract and for his future, and I don't know how
well that goes. Also, you have Mike McCarthy who doesn't
have a contract, so he's also a lame duck. Mike
McCarthy in a lame duck year. If things start sliding
for the Cowboys, look out, this could get really ugly,

(01:45:44):
really fast. I cannot commit to double digit wins for
a team with a coach on an expiring contract. That
means Jerry Jones has zero faith in his quarterback and
his head coach. So I don't have faith in the
Dallas Cowboys. I haven't met nine wins this.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Season, nine and eight they fall from grace.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
All right, big difference in this room bow where you
stand on the Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (01:46:06):
Can you guys imagine if Jalen Hurts gave a press
conference and he was like, I don't really listen to
what Jeffrey Lury says in the media, or if Patrick
Mahomes is like, yeah, I don't really care what Clark
Hunt says in the media. That is really odd to
me that Dak and Jerry Jones have that relationship. It
feels like a very adversarial relationship between Jerry Jones and

(01:46:26):
his players. And on top of all this, like I
just don't think the Cowboys are gonna be very good.
I think they help. It's helped by playing in the
division with the Giants and the Commanders, And as I've
established before, I think the Cowboys are always guaranteed to
get double digit wins by the NFL themselves through strange means,

(01:46:47):
so I have them as a ten win team this year,
but I'm also invoking the Ricky penalty and taking away
nine wins, so they're gonna win one game this year.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
You're saying Cowboys win a single game?

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Yeah, by virtue of the Ricky penalty.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
Okay, yeah, so one in sixteen for the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
Hold on. It really needs to though.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
I almost feel like the Ricky penalty is adding a
win to them because he is the.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
Yeah of Dak Prescott.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Yeah yeah, all right, so you're gonna stick with one wink. Yeah, Okay,
he's going one in sixteen.

Speaker 6 (01:47:23):
One legitimate win, illegitimate wins given it.

Speaker 5 (01:47:27):
Okay, you're saying nine wins to typos. Credit about in
the NFL helping them out. I'm noticing, once again the
Lions have to play in Dallas. I do not remember
the last time the Dallas Cowboys actually had to go
to Detroit. I feel like every year, or at least
two out of every three years, the Lions and Cowboys play,
and I've never seen the Cowboys play in Detroit. It

(01:47:50):
feels like a mirage. And I'm not sure how that
keeps working out, that that that's the case.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
That's that's the Jerrah of fact. Yeah, the jer ef fact.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
Well, the Cowboys first playoff game and the Jerry Jones
era was in Detroit and they got routed yep in
nineteen ninety one. So remember that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:09):
The famous cursed Madden words of the two teams of
the nineties. He's only half correct. Yes, I'm not sure
what to do with this team. I'm gonna go and said,
I think the AFC East is going to take the
crown from AFC South as weakest division this year.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
It's just not going to look pretty.

Speaker 5 (01:48:30):
I'm not terribly impressed by what's happened with the Dallas Cowboys.
I not terribly impressed with Dak Prescott. Maybe I've been
hanging around Ricky a little.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
Bit too much. They have.

Speaker 5 (01:48:43):
They had like almost a plus two hundred point differential
last year, and I'm still not sure how I'm gonna
I'm gonna put them down for a perfect five hundred
record at eight eight and one.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Oh, he's going with another time one. All right, So
let me get this straight, Bo, You've got nine wins.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
I have him ten wins, Yeah, ten wins spiritually one okay, but.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Ten spiritually one, but in reality ten Chris got eight,
eight and one. Rich you got him at I have
him at nine wins, nine wins, and I have thirteen wins.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
Something to know too, is that Chris has to have
one more tie, right because he's at three tie early.
Oh thank you for yeah. But he has a tie
from in the AFC as.

Speaker 5 (01:49:24):
Well, all right, so he's gonna have to And also
make sure the Cowboys and the and the Falcons play.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
I'm only keeping count of your wins because that's why
I don't do bad news.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
They Oh no, wait, they do play. Okay, okay, very good, Matzi.
Where are you with the boys?

Speaker 7 (01:49:40):
Well, it's not it's not that I think dak Is
is the man. I do think he is going to
perform out of his mind because of Jerry Jones not
wanting to pay him. So I have them winning ten
games with four questionable ones that they could win.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
So let's make it twelve twelve closer to us, all right,
So they won twelve last year, they won twelve again,
all right?

Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
Next up, guys, it's the New York Giants.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
Oh boy, And the longer I stare at this team,
the bore I convinced that, save the New England Patriots,
this is the worst team in the NFL. It's close
with the Patriots. They won six games last year. I'm
still trying to figure out how they did that. They
only had two hundred and sixty six points. No, Saquon,

(01:50:30):
I mean this is this is a really bad team.
Brian Davile has gone from like like the most sought
after head coaching guy to a guy who will one
hund be in the unemployment line after this season. How
low do I go with the Giants. I'm gonna say,
I'm gonna go all the way there. Three and fourteen

(01:50:51):
is what I'm staring at with this year's New York
Giants team.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
Okay, so the split in the division method that I've
been using, it holds up here because I think this
whole division takes a step back, Not quite as far
as Chris Perfets prediction, but I do think that this
is going to be a weaker NFC East than we
saw last year. I'm gonna say the Giants win four games,

(01:51:16):
and it's really because if you look at their schedule,
they play the Panthers once, and so I guess in
that battle of the basement. I'll give them a win.
So four wins for the New York gm men.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
All right, so I have three rich as four bow
Where are you with the g men? Anywhere else?

Speaker 6 (01:51:37):
I do not care about this team, or it will
be the scrivener. Yeah, I would rather take a nap,
much like the Tennessee Titans. They have no effect on me.
They're gonna win four games, four if they're lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:51:51):
If they're lucky, yeah, I was. I had to drop
this through.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
I just figure like, everyone's going to be a round
four Chris, what do you got? I'm winning the East.

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
We've got a close to no god, no god, I'm
a Lions fan. I'm not psychotic. Yeah, I'm gonna make
this a clean sleep sweep and go for four wins.
There's just nothing like I feel bad because once upon
a time I would have probably pegged Brian Dable as
incredibly smart. But I'm sorry. There's a point of like, yeah,

(01:52:21):
but they had to tie themselves to Daniel Jones. Like, well,
Brian Dables the one who tied himself to Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Well, they made the playoffs, they won a playoff game.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
He had a mediocre season, and they bought in and
committed forty million a year to the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:52:33):
I just I can't do this with the Giants.

Speaker 5 (01:52:36):
It sucks because I feel like they've got some talent
around there that they can probably build a future on.
But this is a team that Bo and I talked
about this about behind the glass, like the Giants are
just as an organization, they do really dumb things a lot,
and they seem to like really relish in doing dumb
things repeatedly.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
They do that. Indeed, all right, matey, where are you
with the GMN.

Speaker 8 (01:52:59):
It's low between four and five.

Speaker 7 (01:53:01):
I just feel like if the Eagles do well, they're
going to win that last game, So I want to
bump them up to five.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
Five all right, there's the high wider mark for the
New York Giants.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
Five wins for months.

Speaker 6 (01:53:12):
I say all that about the Giants, and I do
have a season long wager on the New York Giants quarterbacks.
So if he can just go over twenty nine hundred
passing yards, I think that'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
What was I mean he does here? So what was
your win total? I forgot I had.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
So I have him in the three months he has
five and the rest of you have a at four.
All right. On the other side, we still have two
more teams, the Eagles and the Commanders. So we wrap
up the NFC East. This is Fox Football Sunday, Steve Harbin,
Rich Ornberger, Fox Football Sunday. We are live from the
tire rack dot Com studio. So over the last couple

(01:53:49):
of Sundays, we've been breaking down all thirty two teams
in the NFL, Predictions on wins, who's going to be
in the playoffs, wild carts, the whole shebang as we
get ready for the start of the season, which we'll
start on Thursday with the New England Patriots not in
the game. You remember the Thursday opener every year with
the New England Patriots. It was like that regular New

(01:54:11):
England Patriot.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Not anymore now.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
The Chiefs, it's the Chiefs. It is the Chiefs all
the way as they are going to try to make
history to become the first team ever to win three
consecutive Super Bowls. We'll get to our Super Bowl picks
later on in the next hour. Also coming up in
the next hour, John Paul Morosi, It's going to be Johnny,
It's going to break down as we head down the stretch,
the September stretch in Major League Baseball. All right, guys,

(01:54:38):
I'm going to go out of order because I'm looking
at the clock and I'm going to save the Eagles
for after the top of the hour. Okay, So let's
let's get into the Washington Commanders again. A team that
was four and thirteen a year ago gave up more
points than any team in the NFL, A wopping five
hundred and eighteen points.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
They gave up an average of thirty points a game
for a seventeen game season.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
That is a lot of points. It's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
That's an average of thirty for a seventeen game season.
So Jaden Daniels now comes in as their starting quarterback.
There's no a little research because you know, I didn't
vote Jayden Daniels number one of my Heisman ballat I
had panics over Daniels, and I really wanted to look
at Daniels' stats last year and compare him to like

(01:55:28):
his days at Arizona State. If you forget remember him
at Arizona State, he had a really good year and
then came the COVID year, which was a short year,
and he played well then and then his third year
was not good. Right, you know, he just sort of
bought him out, like something happened that year he transfers
to LSU.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
His first year at LSU was almost identical to Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Burrow's first year at LSU, where he was like, Okay,
he's respectable, yeah, and then all of a sudden just explodes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:59):
He's a very accurate passer.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
I will say that his numbers are impressive, especially it's
throwing the ball down the field. But how much impact
is he gonna have on this Commander's team. They're much
better than the Giants. I don't think that they're even
close to being that terrible. I gotta believe the defense
is going to be upgraded. I gave the Giants three wins.
I'll double that. I think the Commanders can sneak in

(01:56:21):
with six wins this season. Okay, and that's really gonna
be with Jayden Danis.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Yeah, I get it. Here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
I think Jayden Daniels, of all the first round quarterbacks,
I like him the best in terms of what I
predict his transition will look like at the next level.
If you look at the Commanders last season and you
just you just take in that record overall of only
four wins, you're kind of burying the lead. This team

(01:56:52):
lost close game after nail bider after close game, took
the Eagles to the to the closing bell two two times,
lost in overtime thirty four to thirty one. They actually
lost again another one score game that was a late
score from the Eagles they needed thirty eight to thirty one.
Lost in early season, actually the first game of the season,

(01:57:14):
twenty to sixteen to the Arizona Cardinals. I mean their
whole schedule was littered with close losses. Yeah, it just
and by the way, close wins too. So and it
wasn't It wasn't great at quarterback. We know the story
with the Commanders. It hasn't been good at quarterback in
a very very long time. Jayden Daniels is an enormous

(01:57:34):
upgrade at that position. He's the best quarterback prospect that
they've had walked through the doors in an exceedingly long time.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
I have them winning eight games.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
One wow, that's the biggest.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
Grade, going to double their win total. I think En
Daniels has the goods. This uncomfortable missing on big because
I really really think. I really think he's a good quarterback.
I think he's the most secure prospect.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
All right, bo, are you believing in dan Quinn?

Speaker 6 (01:58:01):
No, not at all. I think their front office and
ownership group is kind of a mess.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:58:06):
Everybody kind of glossed over that Ben Johnson was like
the slam dunk higher for the Commanders and then it
didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
And he called them baseball up.

Speaker 6 (01:58:14):
Yeah, he called them basketball guys. Dan Quinn is such
a quintessential like third option for your hire.

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
To me, it came out of Noe.

Speaker 4 (01:58:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
It just feels like they were desperate just.

Speaker 1 (01:58:27):
To have a place.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
Everyone thought he was going to Seattle.

Speaker 6 (01:58:30):
Yeah, and and then just yeah. So it doesn't inspire confidence.
But I do think Jayden Daniels is poised to be
more pro ready than some of the other Rocky quarterbacks.
I just don't think that means very much. So I'm
gonna give him six wins this year.

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Sixth wins? So you're where I am? What do you say, Chris? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:58:46):
I have some faith in uh Jaden Daniels, but this
isn't a roster that has a lot on it To
really talk about and I don't think the addition of
Bobby Wagner in his twilight years is going to really
He's still attack machine fantastic, don't listen. I would buy
a Bobby Wagner commander's jersey, and this guy got other
plus tackles every year. But I don't think my philosophy

(01:59:10):
is always I don't think a star makes a unit.
At the end of the day, I'm gonna put but
I do think they will improve quite a bit. I
don't have much faith in the ownership or Dan Quinn,
but I will put them down for I'll be seven wins.
I'll split the difference between between Rich and Bo.

Speaker 7 (01:59:27):
All right, manci even if you know Jayden Daniels may
be ready and he may deliver. I think the Commanders
have a tough schedule. I'm giving them five wins.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
Only five, all right, So a little bit of an
upgrade for a year ago, but still a team that's
not going to be any threat as far as the
postseason is concerned. All right, Well, coming up on the
other side, guys, we still have one more team to
get to. It'll be the final team, and that will
be Bo's Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, an Eagles team that went

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Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
All right, We have engaged over the last couple of
Sundays and breaking down all thirty two teams of the
NFL and what kind of seasons they're gonna have, win
totals and everything else.

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
Who's in the playoffs, who's not? And we have one
team left.

Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
Mm hmm, and that is Bo's Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 3 (02:00:52):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
Two years ago, the Eagles were really the talk of
the NFL after the Super Bowl. Let's face it, you
could have made an argument that Jalen Hurts should have
been the Super Bowl MVP. Oh yeah, he was the
best player in the field, he outplayed Patrick Mahomes even
if the Eagles lost the game to the Chiefs, but
that more people honestly were talking about the Eagles and

(02:01:15):
Hurts after that Super Bowl than.

Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
The Chiefs who had won the game.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
I agree, and last year was an interesting year for
this Eagles team because they started ten to one and
they never looked right like week after week right to
you and I would sit here on Sunday, the Eagles
won again, but I don't know, something doesn't look like
they don't really resemble the team we saw the year before,
and then the wheels completely flew off the wagon, resulting,

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obviously in an embarrassing postseason performance. I mentioned before last year,
the Cowboys were a plus one ninety four point differential.
The Eagles were eleven and six. Last year they were
a plus five. Who they scored four hundred and thirty
three points, then they score allowed four hundred and twenty eight.
You're almost asking, how do they win eleven games? Well,

(02:02:05):
they won a lot of close games early and then
they had some ugly losses down the stretch. So this
to me is one of the I think the most
difficult team to analyze for twenty twenty four. Are they
going to bounce back? Was that second half of the
season in aberration? Is Jalen Hurts really the player we

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thought he was after that amazing performance he had two
years in the Super Bowl. These are all questions. I
really don't even have the answers. Nick siriannies he still
the guy? Does he still have that team? I look
at the talent and I say it's still there, and
they do benefit from playing in a very weak division.

(02:02:50):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna have the Eagles. They were
eleven and six last year. They're gonna win ten games
this year and they will be a wildcard team. Now
the question is will they be improved at the end
of the year. Will they build the ten and seven
maybe have some men in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (02:03:09):
We'll see. But that's where I got them right now.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
Eagles at ten and seven, and they do sneak in
as a wildcard.

Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
So they had that inexplicable loss to the Giants at
the end of their season. It was just brutal down
the stretch there. But if you rewind back to Week
fifteen of last season, they lost a close one on
the road to Seattle. The week before that Giants loss.
They lose an extremely close game of shootout which was

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really weird to the Arizona Cardinals in Philadelphia. And like
I said, the Cardinals played a lot of teams tough.
I think the Cardinals were a tougher team than a
lot of people were willing to give them credit for.
And that's also a coach that new Jellen Hurts, the
head coach of Arizona Cardinals, had been there this season before,
so you have the scouting report on everything you need

(02:03:58):
to do to attack that team offensively, and the Cardinals
did a nice job.

Speaker 3 (02:04:03):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
So having said that, this team could have been potentially
a thirteen win team last year, we would have felt
very very different about them going into the postseason.

Speaker 3 (02:04:14):
But they weren't.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
They were an eleven win team, and I understand that
last stretch was absolutely dreadful. I'm with you. I think
they're a ten win team. I think they're solid in
a very bad year overall for the NFC East, considering
where they were the bulk of these teams and how
good the Cowboys and the Eagles looked last year in
terms of their record alone, but last year heading into

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the postseason, I think it's going to be a step down.

Speaker 3 (02:04:40):
But yeah, I have them winning ten games. All right,
well your team.

Speaker 6 (02:04:44):
Well, thank you guys so much for the awesome recap
of how fun last year was.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
That was great. I love bringing all that back up
that that was a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, actually
we should spend maybe.

Speaker 6 (02:04:54):
We still like I can just tell JP and skipped
we can. I have them starting six and zero. They
go into Cincinnati and in a close loss, Nick Siiranni
loses his mind and tries to attack Joe Burrow and

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he gets fired, and the Eagles elevate Big Dom to
head coach and from there they go on to win.

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
Well, they'll they'll finish fourteen and three.

Speaker 6 (02:05:25):
Oh my god, my god, on the back of Big
Dom as head coach, where he's supposed to be rightfully
elevated to the head coaching position. I think Jalen Hurts
is a legitimate MVP winner this year. He had a
phenomenal camp. The addition of Saquon Barkley I think cannot
be understated. He's going to He's going to try to

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double up Adrian Peterson's single game rushing record both times
he plays the Giants this year, and they got their
defensive coordinator they were supposed to have last year that
they didn't. Jalen Carter is going to be a defensive player,
the candidate by the end of the season. I think
they fixed their biggest issues. But Nick Sirianni is any

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proven year. If he doesn't win at least twelve games
this year, I would think that he's out and you
might see Bill Belichick in. But I do think Jalen
Hurts is going to have an MVP type year and
that's going to translate to fourteen wins.

Speaker 3 (02:06:21):
No, all right, fourteen wins is a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
All right, so he's got But let's face it, Chris
is laughing at him because that's not a lot of
faith here team. I have my team winning sixteen games
this year, hang on a second.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
And also Chris has a very unique situation here.

Speaker 3 (02:06:36):
Yeah, so, I BO, you've.

Speaker 1 (02:06:38):
Been fairly measured.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
I mean, you definitely have the NFC North having some
action packed teams there. In terms of the NFC East,
it's a whole lot of nothing except for the.

Speaker 3 (02:06:49):
Cowboys and Eagles. Now.

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
Chris, on the other hand, for the NFC East right now,
depending on what happens with the Eagles, the Cowboys win
the division with eight games with eight wins.

Speaker 1 (02:07:01):
So all right, well, I think he's a big believer
in the Eagles. Let's find out.

Speaker 5 (02:07:05):
Let me put it this way, I am still always
impressed by the Eagles offense. I think I need to
lean on Bow a little bit because I listen, no
matter what filling Kelsey's shoes are, it's really hard. And
I guess the question is is Cam Jurgens is he
able to do that? And I guess we're gonna find
out on that front. Well, I think I saw Bow. Yeah,

(02:07:27):
I think I think he will. But that is also
a legitimate question too, is the loss of Jason Kelsey.
And you had that weird quote from Jalen Hurts this
week where he was like, they told me not to
do a lot of learning because we had Jason Kelcey
and he would handle that stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:07:40):
So that was a strange That was a strange thing
for Jalen.

Speaker 5 (02:07:42):
We do not give enough credit to the center position
as how cerebral it is. You're kind of like, just
how much you've got to you've got to be responsible for,
and like, look, I'm not gonna act like the only
thing Philadelphia could do was the Tush push, but that
was that is a tool in their toolkit that they're
kind of like, you know, losing a little bit more
and more. But Saquon Barkley is a very big upgrade

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over DeAndre Swift, which is a lesson that I think
the the Chicago Bears are going to learn very quickly
about DeAndre Swift. That always sounds like a good idea
in September and October, and then as Bo found out
with the Eagles, that starts to have diminishing returns. But
Saquon Barkley I think is going to be great for them.
It's just a team that seems on the wrong side
of some age, but I still they got one in them.

(02:08:26):
It'll look disappointing on the front. I do expect them
to get off to a slower start and then Big
Dom Dom Desandro then stages a mutiny, takes over and
thus cements the first security guard to NFL head coach pipeline.
Very exciting times the National Football League. Once that happens,
I've got them at nine wins.

Speaker 1 (02:08:47):
Nine wins.

Speaker 6 (02:08:48):
Yeah, the Philadelphia I did forget Big Dom institutes on
only Kelly Green's policy.

Speaker 3 (02:08:55):
The uniforms yes.

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
So in other words, as we're going to get to it,
Chris clearly made it clear, which is the weakest division
in the NFL this year?

Speaker 3 (02:09:05):
Matzi, where do you have the Eagles?

Speaker 7 (02:09:07):
I think there's questions regarding the relationship between Jalen Hurts
and Nick Sirianni, which is the reason that I don't
know exactly what the Eagles are going to do. Everything
you said, I'm just like, I don't know how to
assess them.

Speaker 8 (02:09:20):
But since we're assessing them anyway, I have them winning
ten games.

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
Ten games, all right, Well, then we're we're in lockstep
on that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:27):
All right. So final NFC East predictions. I have the
Cowboys ending the twenty year drought. They will win the
NFC East again, and the Eagles will get in as
a wild card.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:09:41):
As for me, I have the Cowboys sneaking in as
a nine win wild card. The Eagles win the division
with ten wins, all right, bo.

Speaker 6 (02:09:52):
Yeah, Eagles win the division and the Cowboys are given
a wild card spot by.

Speaker 1 (02:09:56):
They're given they've.

Speaker 2 (02:09:59):
Never because the in your bracket, the Falcons also have
ten wins, so that the NFL gives the Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (02:10:05):
The NFL feels bad for Dallas and Gibson, so they
get what they had to do.

Speaker 3 (02:10:09):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
See, So Chris, you're you're limited in your love of
the NFC East.

Speaker 7 (02:10:15):
No.

Speaker 5 (02:10:15):
I look, at some point things do change in the NFL,
and as much as we've called the East competitive, it's
also featured some fairly mid play, and I just think
the bottom falls out this year. I've got the Eagles
winning the division at nine and eight, and everyone's unhappy
about it. But guess what, We've been doing this for
years with the NFC South and no wild card teams
to speaking of here, all right, and I am glad

(02:10:38):
to assuage richest fears that I was going to have
an eight eight and one division winner. Listen, man, we've
had worse, We have thans of that nature.

Speaker 1 (02:10:48):
Yeah, absolutely, We've had losing records, get win divisions.

Speaker 3 (02:10:51):
All right, Matzi, how does your NFC East look?

Speaker 7 (02:10:54):
The Cowboys win the division, the Eagles are a wild cards?

Speaker 1 (02:10:57):
All right, We're in lockstep there, all right. We're going
to take a little time out and the other side
down to the bottom of the hour, we're gonna give
our playoff predictions, and then by the end of the
show are Super Bowl predictions. On the other side, though,
we're gonna switch gears talk a little Major League Baseball
getting ready for the September stretch. John Paul Morosi, our

(02:11:18):
Fox Sports Radio MLB insider, will join us. This is
Fox Football Sunday. Steve Harbin and rich Armburger. Here Fox
Football Sunday. We are live from the ti iraq dot
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(02:11:41):
haven't checked the schedule. So we do have a Thursday game,
and we have a Friday game in Brazil.

Speaker 3 (02:11:46):
Yeah, let me see what that Zila it looks like.

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
So I don't think we have as many games kicking
off Sunday.

Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
Do you actually think that Friday game is gonna get played?
Why do you ask that?

Speaker 6 (02:11:59):
I'm starting to think that it might not get played,
given there's like environmental stuff down in Brazil that I
guess there's some wildfires going on.

Speaker 3 (02:12:05):
Oh, we've seen the NFL be quick to pull the
trigger on something like that before.

Speaker 2 (02:12:09):
Well, then it'll be played in Philadelphia.

Speaker 5 (02:12:11):
Yeah, you know what I mean, that rush everyone home
and played on a Monday or something or what.

Speaker 2 (02:12:15):
Yeah, right, Well, yeah, I mean we've seen we've seen
double headers as a result of the pandemic on primetime games.
I could see that happening. So our cestigue games though
for Sunday, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (02:12:27):
All right. So I'm looking at day schedule.

Speaker 2 (02:12:29):
Pittsburgh Atlanta, Arizona at Buffalo, Tennessee at Chicago. The Patriots
will face the Bengals, Houston Texans at Indianapolis, Colts, Jacksonville
Jaguars facing the Dolphins in Miami, Carolina at New.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
Orleans, Minnesota at New York's or some ugly games.

Speaker 3 (02:12:52):
It doesn't matter though. That's eight games, Okay, eight games,
so mine two.

Speaker 1 (02:12:56):
We have eight games kicking off on Sunday next Sunday,
which is not Who've had ten games, so that's like.

Speaker 2 (02:13:03):
That's gonna be no problem among those.

Speaker 1 (02:13:05):
I'm really looking forward to, though, that Sunday night game
between the Rams and the Lions.

Speaker 2 (02:13:10):
No question in that early slate we're going to be covering.
Amongst the eight games that we'll have airing at that point,
Pittsburgh Steelers at Atlanta has the most juice to me.
I mean, look, it's Russell Wilson against Kirk Cousins. I'm
very curious to see what the Steelers look like.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
All right. Well, another man that is all over the
start of the football season, along with his multitude of
other jobs that he's engaged in, including covering Major League Baseball,
is our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider, the great John
Paul Morose JP. Before we get to a little baseball talk,
when you get your thoughts about your Wolverines winning first

(02:13:49):
game in the post, Jim Harbaugh era, what were your
impressions of your beloved Michigan Wolverines.

Speaker 4 (02:13:55):
Well, good afternoon. I don't think Michigan was as impressive
as the Nitney Lions were yesterday. I must acknowledge that much.
Full credits to Penn State. I think that Michigan certainly
will need to work through some of the quarterbacking. Obviously,
JJ McCarthy not being there any longer is something Michigan's

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going to have to adjust to. Although Davis Warren I
thought had some big moments late. Alex Orgi is an
elite runner as we saw. But I do think that
Texas at noon on Fox on Saturday is going to
pose quite a challenge. So I tend to think the
Longhorns will be favored in that game, probably should win

(02:14:36):
that game. But they always say, and Rich has probably
heard this in every locker room he's ever been in
his entire life. The best teams improved the most between
Week one and Week two. So we'll see what Michigan has.
So I thought Loveland was fantastic last night. He's clearly
Michigan's number one receiver. Excellent work in the defensive back
to the Bible Johnson. So some things have built on

(02:14:59):
but the mountain is going to be pretty steep there
in Week two against Texas.

Speaker 3 (02:15:02):
All right, Rich, pardon me.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
I want to ask this first baseball question of JP
because we asked this question, or I asked this question
of you a week ago, but I want to add
another layer to it. So I asked you what would
be more impressive show hey o Tani going fifty to
fifty or Aaron Judge having a second sixty home run
season over a three year span.

Speaker 3 (02:15:26):
But I want to add one more layer to this.

Speaker 1 (02:15:29):
So what's more impressive of fifty to fifty for shoe Atani,
a second sixty plus home run season for Aaron Judge
or the Chicago White Sox losing one hundred and twenty
five games.

Speaker 3 (02:15:41):
What is most impressive.

Speaker 4 (02:15:45):
Utility on that level is difficult Steve to quote unquote achieve,
and yet the White Sox are on the precipice of
that kind of history. It is, it's pretty remarkable. I
I'm out of words a little bit on the White
Sox and they're in f to two. They've made a
managerial change, They're not going to have Grady Seismore as

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their guy for the future as well, so there's a
lot a lot of questions there about where they're going.
It's it is fairly incredible what's happening right now with
the White Sox. But I'll say this, Aaron Judge already
above fifty. He's got fifty one now and he's still
going and o'tani is it's almost a certainty he's get
forty five to forty five, and now fifty to fifty

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is very much within sight. So I'm I'll probably still
stay on the positive side of things and saying the
Judge getting there twice in three years would be extraordinary.
But my goodness, the White Sox, I think they finished
their season in Detroit and it'll be interesting to see
what kind of quote unquote record they are going for

(02:16:50):
when I see them in Detroit at the very end
of the season.

Speaker 2 (02:16:52):
I have to ask this question from this angle about
the White Sox. And I'm sure you're tired of talking
about how bad this team is, but bear with me.
Does losing at this rate stain players like do you
become a little untouchable, whether it be in trade and
free agency because of the radio activity you may carry

(02:17:12):
with you from a season like that. I mean also
from the other standpoint, like a manager, is this going
to be a very difficult team for the White Sox
to find? Maybe the manager that ushers in the new
era for them, because nobody's gonna want to jump in
and roll their sleeves up and try to undo whatever's

(02:17:33):
been done there.

Speaker 4 (02:17:35):
Well, i'll answer the second part first. I think that
there are managers who already have really good situations in
other places that might not want to leave. But I
would say that that is not necessarily unique to the situation,
and in fact, I think in some ways it makes
the job even more appealing, because when you're this bad,

(02:17:58):
you're basically your tolerance of the length of the rebuild
is really the limiting reagent here. If because in some way.
Let's say you take the White Sox job this offseason
with a three or a four year contract, you're almost
instantaneously rich, having one of the greater job securities of

(02:18:20):
any manager in the sport because you're not going to
get fired for two to three years. I mean, you're
good now, Patrick or fall I just think they had
to do something. It had gotten so bad that they
just felt like they had to make a change, and
that the atmosphere had gotten so poor that they had
to make a switch. So I think that for the
right manager who either is is really ready for his

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next go around, maybe at John Gibbons, somebody who's already
been a manager elsewhere, to Marlow Hale. There are really credible,
good baseball people out there who deserve a chance to manage,
and they could have I think years of a years
of runway to do the job. I think the other
part about the players, it's really interesting question you asked Ridge.

(02:19:01):
I think that the atmosphere is so bad that players
that have gone on, like look at Michael Kopak, He's
been a very I think, a very very valuable member
of the Dodgers since going over there, and I think
a large part of it is, oh my gosh, I'm
on a team that's winning again. There's positivity here where

(02:19:23):
we're doing good things. You've even seen Tommy fam Get
claimed that he got traded and got claimed again thereby
the Kansas City Royals, so clearly the Royals were okay
with fam having been an alum of the White Sox
of twenty twenty four. There's no doubt that this is
going to be a team that we talk about for
a long time. I just think it's not going to

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be quite as damaging as we might think.

Speaker 1 (02:19:48):
So if you trace over especially recent baseball history, the
team that has the best record in baseball on September
first has rarely ended up as we champions. I mean,
that's the way it's been in recent years. I mean
we've seen upside down playoff runs by a number of
teams that were not even expected to get there. The Dodgers,

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after beating Arizona twice two big wins on the road
against the d Backs to extend their lead in the
West of six games over the Padres and the d Backs,
the Dodgers right now are sitting with the best record
in baseball, two games clear of the Phillies.

Speaker 3 (02:20:24):
Two and a half over the Brewers.

Speaker 1 (02:20:26):
In your opinion right now September one, who is the
best team in baseball?

Speaker 4 (02:20:33):
That is a great question. I do think that the
best team in baseball right now is legitimately the Dodgers,
but they do have their flaws. I'm saying in my
next breath, I can't remember a time where the best
teams have been this slot, and the Dodgers are certainly
part of that equation. Look what happened with Kershaw. Kershaw

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pitches one inning and then he's out because of the
big toe issue, and we don't know what he's going
to be back on the mound. So they are the
best team. The one thing that's keeping me from saying
the Phillies is I worry about a little bit about
their rotation depth. The Razors Florrez has not been the
same in the second half. I worry a little bit
about Harper having some elbow and wrist issues to where

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he's not quite the same guy. Although JT. Real Micho
the last couple of weeks has been really big. He's
really lifted and elevated that team. I think I look
at the American League that the Orioles have been kind
of up and down a little bit of late. I
think the Yankees, when Judges is playing like this and
Soto is playing as he is, they're still a really

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good lineup, but they're so dependent on those two guys.
So I really think the Dodgers are the best of
a flawed group right now. And honestly, I might tell
you right now, the best team in the American League
might well be the Guardians about just with their overall depth,
I think they're gonna be able to swing some starting
pitches into the bullpen helps them down the stretch, and

(02:21:58):
don't sleep on the I like that team a lot.
They might be the kind of team that really ends
up ends up having a nice playoff run because of
their quality of starting pitching. So it's gonna be a
lot of fun to see which team emerges there late
in the season.

Speaker 3 (02:22:13):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (02:22:13):
And all right, so the Diamondbacks, they kind of snuck
into the playoff picture last year and they rode that
momentum all the way to the World Series. Could you
see a sneaky team making a deep run this year?

Speaker 4 (02:22:29):
This is one of those years where don't don't be
surprised if you get like a Royals Padres World Series.
This is this is the year of the other. And yes,
I'm not just saying that because I'm talking to two
great San Diego broadcasters year, but I'm I'm of the
mind that that any of these teams have to have
a fighting chance, because again, so many of the best

(02:22:50):
teams have legitimate flaws. Legitimate flaws. The Dodgers keep winning,
but can you win a championship with starters who keep
vowing out early? They're just they're hopeful that glass now
comes back. Hopeful, but that's not a sure thing at
this point in time. So I'm a believer that there

(02:23:10):
is a lot, and I'm serious, a lot of variability
with this year, even more so than any other year
that I've covered it. So get ready, guys, Get ready
for some upset in the first round, get ready for
some upsets in the second round. The team that gets
hot could win the World Series. And just don't be
surprised if that. If we're assembling a stage and handing
out the Commissioner's Trophy at Petco Park or Kaufman Stadium

(02:23:34):
or or potentially Progressive Field in Cleveland, we could be
seeing a place host the World Series that we were
not counting on when the season began, and for that reason,
among many, I am as excited for this playoff run
as I have been for the playoffs in a long time.

Speaker 1 (02:23:50):
Well, JP, we will be covering that playoff run with
you every step of the way. Can't wait for this
final month of the baseball season. All right, you got
the w on your book with the Michigan Wolverines. As
you mentioned, we'll see about that matchup coming up, see
if they can get over that big hurdle.

Speaker 3 (02:24:05):
JP.

Speaker 1 (02:24:05):
We appreciate the time is always We'll talk to you
next week.

Speaker 4 (02:24:09):
All the best, my friends. I always love our conversations.
You guys are the greatest. Let's keep it going. My
best wishes to everybody out there for the beginning of
this exciting football season as well.

Speaker 3 (02:24:19):
Absolutely, it is the best time of the year.

Speaker 1 (02:24:21):
Great stuff, JP, John Paul Morosi joining us there our
Fox Sports Radio MLB Insider. All right, it's fine. Now,
what's trending right now? Monzi is back? What he got Monzie.

Speaker 7 (02:24:31):
There's actually a lot going on right now, but let's
start with the positive news out of the NFL that
the San Francisco forty nine Ers announced that their rookie
wide receiver Ricky PEARSLL, who was shot in the chest
yesterday during an attempted robbery, has been released from the hospital.
So great news there. Now we're going to start in
the WNBA. The Sky are losing to the Link sixty
to fifty one after three quarters. But Angel Reese, let's

(02:24:54):
see what she's got. After three quarters, Angel Reese has
fourteen rebounds and thirteen points, officially broken the WNBA record
for the most rebounds in a single season. The record
was four hundred and four. She's probably at halftime. She
was at four h five, so she's probably a like
four to twelve now. But Angel Reese has officially broken

(02:25:14):
that record. I don't think anyone's too surprised. Kayln Clark
is playing the Fever. Are losing to the Wings right now,
twenty nine to twenty eight, about seven minutes to go
in the first half. Kaitlin Clark, she's got five points,
two rebounds to assist. She has one to four from
the three point in line. At the US Open, Taylor
Fritz ended up defeating eight seed Casper Rout in the

(02:25:35):
round of sixteen and four sets.

Speaker 8 (02:25:37):
He's onto the quarterfinals.

Speaker 7 (02:25:38):
Fritz is the first American man to reach three major
quarterfinals in a year since Andy Roddick did it back
in two.

Speaker 8 (02:25:45):
Thousand and seven.

Speaker 7 (02:25:46):
Wow, So Taylor Fritz onto the next one right now
on the lady's side, Cocoa Goff taking on Emma Navarro.
These are American ladies. Coco Goff the third seat. Navarro
is the thirteen seed. They just got going in the
first set. Navarro is up two games to one. This
is also the round of sixteen at the Tour Championship.
Scotti Scheffler still in the lead. He is now thirty
under bar overall, he is four under through sixteen holes.

Speaker 8 (02:26:08):
Colin Morikawa is still five shots back.

Speaker 4 (02:26:11):
Now.

Speaker 7 (02:26:11):
In Major League Baseball, the Yankees did tie the game,
and then the Cardinals said not today. They are now
on top twelve to seven, top of the eighth inning.
In the Bronx, the Padres and the Rays are tied
at three apiece bottom of the seventh. The Astros have
taking the lead over the Royals seven to two bottom
of the eighth inning.

Speaker 8 (02:26:27):
With the Blue Jays beating.

Speaker 7 (02:26:28):
The Twins three to one bottom of the eighth inning
and the Orioles blanking the Rockies five zero, top of
the seventh inning. The games that wrapped up the reds
edge the Brewers forty three and eleven innings. The Mets
did beat the White Sox two to one, so the
Mets are now one and a half games out of
the final Waldcart spot in the National League behind the Braves.
The Tigers outscored the Red Sox four to one, so
the Red Sox now moved four games back of the

(02:26:51):
final Waldcart spot in the AL and the Guardians defeated
the Pirates six to one.

Speaker 1 (02:26:56):
All right, back to you guys, All right, mindzee Now,
remember everybody out there.

Speaker 3 (02:27:00):
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Speaker 2 (02:27:16):
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Speaker 1 (02:27:20):
Well, today we'll listen to a podcast that is immense
because we have covered it all five of us actually,
and our predictions for the NFC.

Speaker 2 (02:27:28):
This podcast and listen to last week Sunday's podcast because
we have literally broken down every single one of the
thirty two teams in the.

Speaker 1 (02:27:37):
NFL extensively because we all have our different angles and
everything else.

Speaker 3 (02:27:41):
All right, So right now I want to go through everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:27:44):
The Pepe silver board up here like jack string and
everything connecting it.

Speaker 3 (02:27:48):
Where we're going nuts just all right.

Speaker 1 (02:27:50):
So what we're going to do now is going to
review our selections in the NFC. So we're going to
each say our four division winners and our three wild cards.

Speaker 3 (02:27:59):
I will start.

Speaker 1 (02:28:00):
My division winners are the forty nine Ers, the Lions,
the Falcons, and the Cowboys. And my wildcard teams are
the Packers, the Bears, and the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (02:28:19):
Those are my NFC picks.

Speaker 2 (02:28:21):
Rich, Okay, my division winners are the forty nine Ers,
the Falcons, the Lions, and the Eagles. My wild card
teams are the Rams, the Packers, and the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (02:28:37):
All right, bo, what do you got?

Speaker 6 (02:28:39):
I got the forty nine Ers, the Buccaneers, the Lions,
and the Eagles. And my wild cards are the Rams,
the Packers, and the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (02:28:49):
Okay, Chris, Okay, I think I still have this right.

Speaker 5 (02:28:53):
It's been a minute and I'm kind of losing my senses,
my division winners are the Rains, the Buccaneers, I believe, correct, Okay,
the Rich has everything. Okay, the Lions and Eagles, and
I've got wild cards going to Green Bay, Atlanta and
San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (02:29:14):
You got it, all right, very good?

Speaker 7 (02:29:15):
And Monci exactly the same as Steve Hartman. I have
exactly the same minds, think alike. The Cowboys, the Lions,
the Falcons and the forty nine Ers are my division
winners with the wild Cards, Eagles, Packers, and Bears.

Speaker 1 (02:29:32):
All right, Now, what we're gonna do is it is
time for us to reveal without picking a winner, the
two teams we think will face off in the NFC
Championship Game. And once again I will start it's all
about seniority.

Speaker 11 (02:29:49):
Very good.

Speaker 3 (02:29:49):
When you're as old as everybody combine, that's that's what you.

Speaker 1 (02:29:52):
Get, alright. So the two teams that I have matching
up and this year's and championship game, Sorry, Chris, it's
gonna be the forty nine Ers and the Dallas Cowboys
will make it to the NFC Championship Game for the

(02:30:14):
first time in twenty nine years. Cowboys, forty nine Ers
NFC Championship Game.

Speaker 2 (02:30:22):
Rich, Okay, well, my NFC Championship game is going to
be between the Detroit Lions and the Los Angeles Ram.

Speaker 1 (02:30:36):
So we got the two teams Sunday Rams Lions were
gonna end to the NFC, and they played each other's
line last year in the playoffs, so this is gonna
be like the number one rivalry.

Speaker 2 (02:30:47):
Cannot wait because also in order in my playoff bracket,
if things go down the exact, I.

Speaker 3 (02:30:52):
Mean, the Rams come out as a wildcard.

Speaker 2 (02:30:54):
So the Rams come out as wild card, they beat
the Falcons division winner in the wildcard round, then they
move on they defeat their old foe, the forty nine
Ers division rivalry in the divisional round, and then they
move on to Detroit, Kent in the championship game.

Speaker 5 (02:31:09):
So it would be in Detroit for the champions Okay, Detroit,
because he's going to have so many podcasts.

Speaker 1 (02:31:17):
Okay, So I got Niners, Cowboys, Rich has Lions, Rams, Bo,
where are you for the NFC Championship game?

Speaker 6 (02:31:25):
I got the Lions hosting the Eagles in.

Speaker 1 (02:31:27):
The NCI Lions and Eagles in the NFC Championship game, Chris.

Speaker 3 (02:31:32):
I can't believe this. I also have the Lions and
the Eagles. No o, get that, geez. That guys spend
a lot of time together. Time together.

Speaker 1 (02:31:42):
All right, Monsey, where are you for the NFC Championship
game matchup?

Speaker 8 (02:31:46):
I have the forty Niners and the Lions.

Speaker 1 (02:31:50):
Forty Niners and the Lions. All right, on the other side,
we will make our final predictions.

Speaker 3 (02:31:57):
We are going to reveal our.

Speaker 1 (02:31:58):
Conference champion and our Super Bowl winners. This is Fox
Football Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Horberger, Fox Football Sunday Live
from the ti iraq dot Com studios.

Speaker 3 (02:32:14):
It's a team effort here on this show. This a
veteran group.

Speaker 1 (02:32:19):
Oh yeah, Manci.

Speaker 3 (02:32:21):
Been through the wars together.

Speaker 1 (02:32:22):
Who brought in food early so we are well nourished
for this insanely busy show today.

Speaker 8 (02:32:28):
Yes, yes, it's my.

Speaker 3 (02:32:30):
Own record eating a burrito this morning.

Speaker 8 (02:32:32):
Did you inhale it?

Speaker 3 (02:32:33):
I doubt Did you get much sauce on it?

Speaker 1 (02:32:35):
Or did you just you know?

Speaker 8 (02:32:36):
Yes, he was putting some sauce while you were talking.

Speaker 3 (02:32:39):
He was you.

Speaker 2 (02:32:41):
You spoke for about I don't know, like ninety seconds
to start the show.

Speaker 3 (02:32:44):
Yeah, and I caught.

Speaker 2 (02:32:46):
Like a minute fifteen of it because it took me
two bites and thirty seconds to the vouer that.

Speaker 1 (02:32:51):
That's yeah, that's bite size for him, no question. Uh,
Chris on the board of course, Uh, phenomenal. This is
another extremely busy guy, as our brilliant producer is bo
as well, who is a busy group of people here,
and we got a lot to do, guys. Phenomenal show today.
I mean phenomenal show. Phenomenal A couple of weeks asked
a lot of you, guys, and you delivered big time,

(02:33:14):
not just picking you know, winners and all that kind
of stuff, but really giving us some in depth, different
opinions to share with our audience. All Right, we're down
to conference championship games. I want to do the conference
Championship game winners first. We'll go around the table, and
then we'll do one last lap with our Super Bowl
champion prediction.

Speaker 3 (02:33:34):
So I'll start here.

Speaker 1 (02:33:35):
My AFC Championship game matchup is the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (02:33:39):
And the Bengals. I've already announced that Joe Burrow is
my pick to be the NFL's most Valuable.

Speaker 1 (02:33:45):
Player this year. I think Joe is going to have
a huge comeback season, but he's not going to get
it done against the Chiefs. Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:33:53):
The Chiefs will be in the Super Bowl again. Chiefs win.
On the AFC side.

Speaker 1 (02:34:00):
As far as the NFC side, we got the forty
nine ers and we got the Cowboys. Are we going
to get a rematch of last year's Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (02:34:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:34:09):
Wow? The Dallas Cowboys after twenty nine years, are going
to make it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:19):
Back to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (02:34:20):
So my super Bowl is the Chiefs versus the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (02:34:26):
Okay, Rich, all right?

Speaker 2 (02:34:28):
So my conference championship game, Bengals at Chiefs, that is
a rematch that is going to be a fun watch.
But the Chiefs na nauseatingly for certain fans. They're going
to advance to their next Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:34:44):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:34:45):
My NFC Championship game, the Rams in Detroit facing the Lions,
Matthew Stafford back in his old stomping grounds, Jared Goff
staring across the sideline at his old team, a player
off rematch, the Lions win. So my super Bowl is
Chiefs Lions, Chiefs Lions super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (02:35:07):
Bo I think last week I said it was the
Chiefs on the road in Buffalo in the AFC title game.

Speaker 3 (02:35:15):
Is that what I'm going back to it? That's what
I said. Bow, your matchup.

Speaker 1 (02:35:20):
Was Chiefs against the Bengals. Chiefs Bengals.

Speaker 6 (02:35:25):
Weird. That makes no sense. On the paper in here,
I said the Bills. I had a head injury. When
I wrote that down, I forgot that. I'm not picking
against Patrick Mahomes. If I don't have to, like, if
I'm not being held at gunpoint, I'm not going to
do it. So the Chiefs are going to go to
the super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (02:35:40):
Okay? On the AC side, do you want me to
chase Ken?

Speaker 3 (02:35:43):
It's fine. Out of the NFC.

Speaker 6 (02:35:48):
The Lions are going to advance to the super Bowl.
So we're gonna have the Chiefs and the Lions and
the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (02:35:52):
So he's got the Lions and the Chiefs. Okay, which
is the same thing you ever y, That's exactly right,
all right, Chris?

Speaker 3 (02:35:58):
What is your Super Bowl match up?

Speaker 5 (02:36:00):
My sheet in here also has the Chiefs, but my
AFC matchup was, and I checked on the sheet in
there is Bills and Jaguars. Seems we have a Florida
team playing in the deep and I have the Jaguars
I believe as a wild card team. Yes, yeah, Lawrence
is playing in the frigid tundra of upstate New York.

(02:36:23):
And everything about that, and yet and yet.

Speaker 3 (02:36:29):
Somehow the Chiefs still win.

Speaker 1 (02:36:32):
Yeah, they cash in the money in the bank briefcase. Yeah, no, somehow, somehow,
Trevor Lawrence shows us exactly maybe not the best start
for the season for him, but he's gonna show us
why he was the first overall pick. And the Jaguars
will advance to the first Super Bowl in franchise history. Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:36:52):
And who will they be facing.

Speaker 1 (02:36:54):
They will also be facing for the first time in
franchise history, one of the most dominant teams of the
year once again, the Detroit Lions. So after that, the
Lions will be going in eighteen and one. And now, well,
oh no, no, seventeen and one. They could be eighteen
and one if they well know, if they win the
conference championship game, they'll there will be sixteen and one

(02:37:15):
and then two playoff wins to get to the super Bowl.
So you eighteen and one, that's right, That's that's right.
I keep forgetting we have added the game. So yeah, no,
So we've got a cat on cat violence for this
Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:37:26):
So two first time ever Super.

Speaker 1 (02:37:28):
Bowl appearances for the Jaguars and the Lions.

Speaker 3 (02:37:32):
All right, manci, who is in your Super Bowl? Who
wins your conference championship games?

Speaker 8 (02:37:36):
Well, I'm with bo.

Speaker 7 (02:37:37):
I'm not gonna ever bet against Patrick Mahomes unless there
is a gun to my.

Speaker 8 (02:37:42):
Head, and maybe even then I won't do it.

Speaker 7 (02:37:44):
So I do have the Chiefs beating the Bengals in
the AFC Conference game. They will be going to their
third Super Bowl and they will.

Speaker 8 (02:37:51):
Be defeating they will get a three p Are we
picking who wins?

Speaker 1 (02:37:54):
No? Yeah, see there it is once again not listening everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:38:02):
Everything was perfect until that moment the show over again.

Speaker 1 (02:38:08):
Hit the up.

Speaker 3 (02:38:10):
Who will they be facing in the super Bowl?

Speaker 7 (02:38:12):
They're going to be facing the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 8 (02:38:16):
I don't think the forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (02:38:18):
How the weirdness is to me? Do we have?

Speaker 1 (02:38:20):
How weird this is to me that we've got four
people in here picking the Detroit Lions in the Super Bowl. Okay,
so here I go. Time for our super Bowl winner. Crazy.
I am the lone person that does not have the
Lions in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:38:35):
I have the Chiefs and the Cowboys. I can just
I can literally picture this right now.

Speaker 1 (02:38:41):
I can picture this right now as Jerry Jones's Head
of the Super Bowl Trophy Dak Prescott is named Super
Bowl MVP. He told to Jerry Jones and says, f you,
I'm out of here. That was my last game as
a Cowboy. Hello world, Let's see the money pour in
is Dak Prescott will get unthinkable money on the free

(02:39:05):
agent market after leading the Cowboys to a Super Bowl championship.

Speaker 2 (02:39:10):
All right, Chiefs Lions. Chiefs win their third Super Bowl
in a row. Jerry Jones gives two double middle figures
to the league and says, how about it?

Speaker 1 (02:39:21):
Enough kidding?

Speaker 3 (02:39:22):
Yeah, so Chiefs three p three p for the chief spoke.
Uh the Lions winning the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (02:39:28):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (02:39:30):
Okay, that looks a lot of pressure on Chris. He's
got the Lions.

Speaker 1 (02:39:34):
Down the field, judging team that will not yield and
win the Blue and Silver wave. Stand and cheer the brave.
All right, So there's two Lions picks.

Speaker 3 (02:39:45):
He's lost his marvel. We already know yours, Manzi.

Speaker 8 (02:39:47):
Yes, they're three peat. Chiefs are beating the Lions, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:39:50):
So we have two three pets.

Speaker 1 (02:39:52):
We have two Lions, and I've got Jerry Jones.

Speaker 3 (02:39:57):
Hoy see that Lombardi truth. Fox Football Sunday. We have
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