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wasn't that long ago that everybody was convenching him out.
Why do they call it week zero?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah?
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Well, now we're into week three. Week three is underway,
a couple of big games on Friday Night, some interesting
matchups on Saturday. Week two of the NFL, of course,
is underway. Jampax Show tonight, we've got an absolute Rockets
midnight hour involving two very prominent marquee NFL players, one retired,
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one still very active. Well, I guess they're both kind
of active if you get my drift. Really looking forward
to what the callers we've got to say tonight. You've
been sensational. I want everybody to bring it tonight, come
sick with it. There's a gonna be interesting topics based
on the general commentary in the group, Think echo chamber
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in the ether the last several days coming up in
about fifteen minutes. Great guest, if you have any interest
in Colorado football and what the next chapter is. If
you have any interest in the game Saturday between Colorado
and Colorado State, the storylines are far and above beyond
just the game on the field. You're gonna want to
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hear this guest. Mike Pritchard, Colorado legend, Las Vegas resident,
good friend of mine, and of course said one a game,
we've got more fun with movies. You don't want to
miss that. But we begin with Thursday Night's NFL game,
and it's just simply amazing that the storylines are twenty
four seven. That's just I want to start with the
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Buffalo Bills because there were some people that had the
audacity to say this was a must win for Miami
in week two, and I'm not so sure they were wrong.
I just it's at an f MOA when we're not
out of September to say it's a must anything. But
if you looked at the game, it showed Thursday night
against showed Buffalo they owned the AFC East, and they
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certainly owned the Miami Dolphins. They rode them like a stickhorse.
They were completely dominant, winning thirty one to ten. And
if the eye test didn't convince you enough, look at
the numbers behind the eye test. One of the things
the Amazon broadcast does is bring up stats, stats, and
more stats. And what they do is they just simply
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illustrate the incredible dominance that Buffalo has showed, not just
Thursday night, but in this series. In the last twelve
games Buffalo eleven and one against the Dolphins, they've beaten
it by an average of fourteen and a half points
per game, always a significant advantage of the turnover battle
turnover differential of plus eight in that span. Add that
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to the fact that Buffalo is averaging four hundred and
seventeen yards a game, even though last night Buffalo didn't
have you know, big time of possession or a lot
of offense or check that, yeah, a lot of offensive stats.
They dominate. I'm gonna get to that in a second.
Here's the thing that's interesting. Miami has been fabulous against
everybody else. Go back those same twelve years. They've been
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just under a six hundred winning percentage. But they're one
and eleven against Buffalo in that span. Against everybody else,
Miami's got a point differential plus fourteen. Let's forget all
those numbers. You get to the point you saw the
game and one of the things that jumped out to me.
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Time of possession is important in football. It's like a
baseball game. Let's say your team got to go to
back nine innings with my team only got to go
to bout six. How often am I gonna win?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Last night, Buffalo is so dominant. They lost the time
of position battle, time of possession battle to the Dolphins,
but almost thirteen minutes since they won by three touchdowns.
Of course, penalties also a big proble for Miami. They
had seven penalties for fifty yards, Buffalo one penalty the
entire night on five yards. Set your dials for November third,
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to see if Miami can get the revenge in Buffalo.
And it leads to really the larger storyline last night
that everybody's talking about, because there's nobody I know that
doesn't like to a tongue of a law and when
he suffered the concussion at the conclusion of the fourth
and fourth run in the third quarter as he lowered
his head. He was trying to get a first down too.
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Has got a little dog in him. He's a terrific player.
You know, last year he'd have a concussion. All year,
he took jiu jitsu lessons and etc. And he basically
banished to slide. He had a mental lapse. And here's
the bothersome part. He crumpled to the field and he
went into that same they're referring to as quote a
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fencing response. It's a similar contortion he showed after having
that concussion back in twenty twenty two again on Thursday
Night football against the Cincinnati Bengals, and as two are
allowed on the turf, and trainers evaluated him and all
the teammates and opponents took a knee. He did get
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up and walk off the field under his own power,
with his trainers by his side. And you wonder as
he was walking off the field, if the fortunes of
the Miami Dolphins go along with him, because look, in July,
Miami signed to a four year, two hundred and twelve
million dollar extension. He's got one hundred and sixty seven
million dollars in guarantees. I believe he earned it. He
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led the league last year with just under forty seven
hundred yards and passing twenty nine touchdowns fourteen picks. But
there has always been the whispers, have always been legitimate
concerns about to his long term health. Even at Alabama
he was the number five pick overall. He's made a
concerted effort that offseason last office, he's going to avoid
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the concussions. He bulked up, trained in martial arts, started
mooring a different helmet every single game. In twenty twenty three,
Tua managed to get through it without a concussion. Unfortunately,
this newest incident and this fencing response, well here we go.
It's dragging up the long running narrative and everybody wants
to enter the game. I mean, because when Tua gets
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a concussion, it just it looks different. I mean remember
last year. To check that, twenty twenty two, he during
that matchup against the Bills, he took a hit, he
got knocked back, or he was really woozy. He hit
his head on the ground and he exited the game, passed,
but he passed concussion protocol. But four days later, on
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a Thursday night, the Dolphins traveled to Cincinnati tod take
it on the Bengals. The second quarter, Tua was sacked
very violently, memb. He looked like a whirling dervish hit
the back of his head. He gets the playing service,
went into the fencing response again, raised his hands. It
was kind of an eerly odd ball Twilight Zone esque
motion and it was a neurological response to head trauma.
And a couple of weeks ago, to my buddy Doug Anderson,
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now we're going to talk about this because what's happening.
You know, they tell us when my head gets hit,
it snaps backwards. When you have that type of scenario,
the whole structure gets affected and you short circuit. And
when it happens to two, it just looks sickening no one.
It's a visual that's frankly hard to look at. So
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we could talk about how the Bills dominated the run game,
which they did, James Cook had three touchdowns, or how
they continue to win. They don't have a true number
one receiver. Boy, they really missed Stefon DICKX so far,
don't they. But look six minutes later, when the Dolphins
confirmed Two had had the concussion at least his third
since twenty twenty two, he told reporters. That's when he
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told reporters he considered retiring. Now, all of a sudden,
everybody is calling for him him to do that. The
tweets are coming out right and left. I'm sure people meanwhile,
I'm not sure if they're grandstanding. Here's what I expect.
The calls for retirement to continue. They're reasonable. He's twenty
six years old, he's got two children, He's already made
I believe, one hundred million. Here's the deal. Here's the deal.
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I don't think he's going to retire. It's just an opinion.
I think in the next two weeks to three weeks
he'll be cleared. He'll have a caucus with his family.
They'll go back and forth. He'll have a caucus with
his teammates and doctors. They'll go back and forth. Knowing
Tua he won't retire because he doesn't want to let
anybody down. I think that's the factor. The thing to
note is, and I haven't read his contract verbatim, but
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every contract has a termination clause. If Tua is not
cleared for whatever reason by any doctor, which I think
is pretty much about a zero, cannot see that happening, Well,
I think he retires. It's an injury based retirement, and
he'll get his money if he is cleared and decides
I don't think I want to play anymore. I'm pretty
sure he loses. He waves goodbye to one hundred and
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sixty seven million dollars and he'll lived the rest of
his life knowing the final play was based on a concussion.
So it's just an opinion at this point. I do
not think to what we'll retire, But this is a
story we are going to continue to watch and we
certainly hope for the best. Another story we're watching four
point thirty pm Pacific time on Saturday, Colorado visits Colorado State,
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first time. Those two have played in Fort Collins since
nineteen ninety six. And this is more than just a
football game. It may become a referendum on the Colorado
program and how they go and where they go from here.
We're going to welcome and a gentleman, Mike Richard, who
was a star Colorado and played in the NFL with
Dion Sanders, so you think he's got a perspective on
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I want to welcome in a gentleman. I can't think
of another player in the planet, another individual on the
planet that is more uniquely qualified to talk about our
next subject matter. He's an All American in Colorado. It
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was a key cog in the Colorado nineteen ninety one
National Championship win over Notre Dame first round draft choice,
the Atlanta Falcons. You're on to play with a guy
you may have heard of, Dion Sanders. Ten year NFL
career and very successful media career here in Las Vegas
as well as Denver. Say hello to Mike Pritchard. Mike,
it's been way too long, my man. Thanks so much
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for coming on to.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Night, Bernie. My pleasure. Great to catch up with you.
How are you doing.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I'm doing wonderful, man, And I was so glad you
could you could shift your schedule at the last minute
because it dawned on me. We're going to get to
the game in Fort Collins Saturday in just a minute,
but I gotta start with this. There's no question, it's
unquestionable Dion's impact in football. What is the state of
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the state of the program right now, not just on
the field, but off the field.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Happiness, thrilled, couldn't be in a better position. It's really Bernie.
I mean, our program fell off a cliff or you know,
to use an analogy of a movie it done on
the waves comes to mind right with the program, and
you know, it takes a charismatic and certainly to take
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a special person to not only resurrect the program, but
get people interested in the program, get people excited about
the program. I'm talking about excitement and support financially. In
today's NCAA, today's landscape for college football, you definitely need
financial support. And coach prime Deon Sanders was a perfect
man for the job. You know, Rick George off our
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ad athletic director. He knew what he was doing. I mean,
he knew that he had to hit a home run,
knock it out the park, and he did that. And
only one person was qualified to do what Dion has
done right now, that's de On standards. I mean, I
can't think of another coach, even a great x's and
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o's or a great coach with history like like say
it was a Nick Saban. You know, Nick Saban probably
would have been doing it about a different way. Maybe
it would have taken some time. But the immediate impact,
the immediate interest in the program was from day one,
and again only one person fit the bill for that.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, there's no question, and that was borne out by
the fact that big noon kickoff ESPN Game Day were
literally camped out and Boulder. Last year. They start off
three and you know they BATTCU returned seven starters on
defensive team that had been their national championship runner up.
So the start three and zero. At some point, though,
what happens is people start to look to the wins
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and losses. I'm glad you mentioned Nick Saban because he
talked about, you know, expectations are the enemy of joy Colorado.
What it forgets Colorado only won one game in twenty
twenty two. They won four last year, So let's talk
about expectations. Is it possible the program is a little
bit of a victim of its own success earlier in
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the year.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, you know, Bernie, I think people want to see
the success on the field because they can't explain why
Colorado is so attractive off the field, or why people
have this interest in this program, right, they can't explain it, Like,
wait a minute, they haven't won a game where they
haven't won a championship, where they haven't competed at a
high enough level. Why is everybody interested in this program?
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And so when you can't explain that or you can't
answer that question, now you look to peel back layers
and tear it apart because you want to influence that.
I think what you can't explain, I think you should
try to get more familiar with.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
And you know, Dion is a brass guy. He's a
he's a guy that invites the spotlight. And certainly antagonists
they like to be attracted to the spotlight too, because
they know that they can tear it back down. Right.
So you have this ying and yang and you have
this tug of war going on with just different forces,
all because of this interest in this program.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And it's really unique. It's really fascinating to me, to
be honest with you. I'm enjoying it. Like I said,
we have so much attention, and our student enrollment is increased.
You know, you think about the minorities going back to
Boulder that that has increased. See you in Boulder, Colorado
is hot again. The community from a financial economic standpoint
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has seen a tremendous gain as well. So it has
been impactful throughout And the biggest way that I can
try to explain is the fact that nobody can't explain it, Bernie,
and people are discutching their heads.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Well, you know, Mike, this is show business. We don't
have royalty in this country. Our athletes and our entertainers
are royalty. And Dion has been much since nineteen eighty nine.
You brought up a great point about being paid attention
to at Colorado, and you know, the opposite of love
is not hate, it's in difference. People have to be
emotionally invested because the product has been so intriguing, you
can't take your eye off it. I've always been a
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big Dion fan and that remains. I do wonder, though,
what is going on in his mind when he'll, for instance,
van a reporter from asking questions. Can you speak to
that from an objective level?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I can? I think if you know Dion, and if
you if you if you chronic quote Dion, how about that,
let's go that way. If you chronicote Dion Sanders when
he was a baseball player. You know, there was a
big blow up with a McCarver. He threw water on
remember at Fisk, Yeah, exactly. So you know there's instances
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with the media where you know it. It's that back
and forth, right, It is that you don't know me
kind of situation. Why are you having this opinion about me?
Why don't we sit down and talk it through. Because
Dion has been the others on the other side of that.
He understands because he's been in the media himself, and
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he understands what people are trying to do. So you
know when you when you ban a reporter for taking
shots at you for no reason, really no reason other
than to gain attention, Uh, then you know that's deon progative.
I think I think we all as athletes have the
ability to decline an interview, you know, and I've done that.
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I've done that. I think a lot of athletes have
done that absolutely right. And if you think about some
other highly publicized personas or or or athletes, they've always
had run ins with media people and they try to
avoid it. Troy Aikman and Skip Bayless, I mean that
comes to mind. That's very high profile. So it's out there.
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It's just this is the new out there with Dion,
and it's intriguing because people want to know what happened.
All that happened is that there was a guy who
had an opinion about Dion and Dion didn't like it.
And so he uses his platform and he uses power
to be honest with you to say, look, I don't
need to deal with you, and you can write because
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you're going to write your opinion piece no matter what,
whether you're credible or not. And that's what people need
to realize. There's so many opinions out there, but which
one is a credible? Right? And you know the creative writing.
You can think that you're talented from that, but really
are you providing anything useful? And I think Deon Sanders
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is the type of guy who wants to avoid all that.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I can disagree with any of that, and I would
say this that sociologically, Mike and his countrys. You all know,
we have a ten of see to elevate people to
their highest plateau. We do with politicians who do the actors, entertainers, athletes,
only to tear them back down again. Let's talk about
the game Saturday or one of your compieries. Joel Klatt,
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who also played at Colorado, made the statement earlier Thursday
that he believed Colorado the boss around a tremendous pressure
Saturday at Colorado State. Do you agree with that statement?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I do. I do because there's nothing that you know,
from Colorado standpoint. They have to blow out CSU in
order to impress the people they that feel like they
need to be impressed, right. I think if the bus
going to Fort Collins and they get the victory by
one point, they'll be happy. They're gonna be jubliant, They're
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going to celebrate, They're gonna be happy about winning a
football game. But the people that are trying to pull
back layers and certainly try to expose whatever they feel
like they need to expose anything close or certainly if
CFU gets the victory, uh, they're going to see see
I told you so. You know, there's there's no substance
to the program basically defending their antagonistic position. Right, There's
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so much pressure, but that comes with spotlight, that comes
with attention, that comes with the way that Colorado goes
about themselves. You know, Shader Sanders with with the Rolex
and and the flex and and all this, and certainly
the profile that they have in social media themselves. Right,
everybody's got a podcast now. So it's fascinating. You know,
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you wonder if these kids can handle it. But this
is what they signed up for, and this is what
they've been about. So uh, they got to take the
good with the bad and and certainly mature from that.
So uh, there's a ton of pressure.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
But but to be honest with you, you know, I
don't think Dean would like it any other way.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I'm glad you brought up Shador Sanders. I've been doing
this a long time. He checks every box. He's going
to be a Cloud ten pick. Mike is as a
long time wide receiver in the league. How would you
like to have had this kid? Can really spin it?
My god? How would you like to have had Shudor
Sanders throwing ball? State some of the best?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well yeah, I mean, if you think about it, I
played with three all of famers, so Brett, ma down
Way and war Moon. So that's that's not bad, right.
I think you know what I've seen from Shudor. First
of all, I love this toughness. I love the fact
that he wants to stand in there and and in
the pocket and be creative. You know, he's had to
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escape the pocket, or he's had to try to escape
it just because a lot of things have broken down,
and he's, to be honest with you, he's developed some
bad habits, Bernie, that I think he needs to get
get away from. But who am I to say when
you have three hundred pounds defensive alignment, how they escape
the pocket and when they're bearing down on you trying
to try to tacky. So he'll he'll clean that up.
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I think with more experience and certainly more coaching, more
awareness and and you know at the offensive line kind
of kind of gets better. I think Shad round out
into an excellent pro quarterback. He's an outstanding prospect. There's
everything that you love about should Door Sanders in terms
of what you want from a franchise quarterback to pedigree.
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I mean the pedigree that this guy has is incredible
right there too. So I think, you know, as long
as he's a hard worker, which I think he is,
and then he understands how to evolved his game and
get better, I think he'll have an incredible career.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I'm in agreement. He checkes every box physically, and from
what I've seen in the last couple of years, he
keeps his eyes down field and plays a position with Zis,
which is very important. He just has a much of
an offensive line in front him. Last one for me, Mike,
I am hopeful that for multiple reasons, Dion stays in
Colorado and builds something foundational. It's good for college football,
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it'd be good for Colorado, it's good for my business
and your business. Do you think Dean's there for the
long term or when Travis and his son leave he
might leave as well.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Your thoughts, well, you know, coaching is is sickle, Like
we would think that people would be there for the
for the long haul. Was it melt Tucker right, Well,
we hired you know, yeah, old boy, old boys right,
kind of torpedoed our program. But any coach, you know,
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I think you pay a lot of money for a
high profile name and they just don't work out in
a few years and they get rid of them. Right,
So it's hard to say word Deon is in terms of,
you know, the foreseeable future. I think he wants to
stick it out past Shador and past Travis and past Shiloh,
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I really do. I know he's signing with a four
year contract with a fifty option. I think Rick George,
uh the relationship that they have, Uh yeah. I think
Dion will stay in Boulder. He loves Boulder, by the way,
So I think when he talks about how his lifestyle
kind of has adjusted to Boulder, he's speaking the truth. Now.
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You know, when you're closing in on sixty and you've
pretty much done a lot of things, You're going to
be a grandfather pretty soon and all that. I mean,
who knows where his mind goes after a few years.
But no, I think he'll stick around posts Shouduur and
Shiloh and Travis as well.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I meantime, we'll do with it here and now we'll
I'll be watching Mike great stuff. As always. Tell people
where they can find your good work.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Oh man, you can find me on Twitter of course,
or x they call it nowadays at am I Richard.
But we also I have a podcast, Barnie. He's living
in Vegas, man. I got involved in in the sports
betting realm, and so I do a podcast with two
excellent handicappers, Brady Cannon and James Salidas. They've won these
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contests that are popping up everywhere, and James Laine's catching
big check. He won a million dollars. So we do
a football Contest show. You go Football Contest Show dot
com and get the podcast audio video. We break down
the games that we like, We give our picks out.
We really get in depth and expose the process of handicapping,
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which a lot of people are interested in. Like a
lot of people don't know how to do it, so
a lot of people can get some good takeaways. Just
get the Football Contest Show dot Com.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Mike great stuff, folks. You can follow Mike at at
am I Pritchard on x or Twitter, whatever I want
to call it. My man gets some resks. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Absolutely Burnie, enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Thank you. That is Mike Pritchard, Colorado, All American, Keycott
and the National Championship Team, first Round Draft Roots Atlanta Falcons.
Ten years in the NFL, played with Dion and knows
Dion very well. Coming up, we're going to start to
set up our men at our topics. We have two
very prominent NFL players that we're going to get into
and I'll I will, i will couch, the angles in
(25:53):
which we're going to approach these. Let me just spill
the beans. One name rhymes with Tyreek Hill and the
other rhymes with Tom Brady. They're both in the news
this week. The group Think Echo Chamber had a lot
to say. I want to hear what you've got to
say coming up at top of the art, but we're
gonna set it up and give you some food for
thought before we go down that road. But first we
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go to our guy Kevin Wire at the chef with
the latest.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Yeah, Bernie. We did have college football on this Friday night,
including a matchup of ranked teams, but this one ended
up not being much of a contest. Kansas State and
Arizona a matchup of the Wildcats, and it is Kansas
State winning this one. And I have to remind myself
as a conference game, a big twelve conference game against
Arizona thirty one to seven. Yeah, it's twenty twenty four,
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that's where we are now. But Kansas State does get
the victory. Arizona begins their Big twelve ten year in
conference play with a loss. Ynlv in Kansas the Rebels.
It's Viva Las Vegas over in Kansas City, as the
Rebels getting the victory against the Jayhawks twenty three to
twenty Kylon James a hard fought one yard touchdown with
under two minutes ago to put the Rebels on top
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and give them Elves a three and oh start in
Major League Baseball. Don't look now, but the Detroit Tigers
just two and a half games out of the playoff spot.
Speaker 10 (27:10):
Here's the tux pitch swag in a mess ball game
and the Tigers. They shut out the Baltimore Orioles tonight
a one nothing final on a combined one hitter call
courtesy of the Tigers Radio Network, Carrie Carpenter getting the
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solo home run to give the Orioles their lone run
of the game as they.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
Again put themselves just two and a half games back
of the final wildcard spot in the American League. Kansas
City Royals picking up a game in the AL Central.
That's because they're able to beat the Pirates eight to three. Meanwhile,
it's the Guardians suffering the lost Friday night as they
fell to the Rays three to one. So in the
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AL Central we currently have the Guardians on top of
Kansas City by three games. The Minnesota Twins and able
to take advantage of. They are still five and a
half games back of the AL Central lead, and in
the AL Least that's been a tight division for much
of the season, but the Yankees now starting to pull
away a little bit. They are three games ahead of
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the Orioles. That's after they beat their heated rival the
Red Sox five to four. The Orioles, as we mentioned before,
losing to the Tigers one to nothing, Mets over the
Phillies eleven to three. Meanwhile, the Braves beat the Dodgers
six to two, and the Mets still ahead in that
wildcard standings over Atlanta by one game.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Back to you guys, all right, thanks chef. Well, unless
you've been on Mars or hiding under a rock, you
might have missed this week that before Byami Dolphins before
their game Sundays, he was heading to work Tyreek Hill
was pulled over by the police, and it set off
a firestorm of observation in commentary for minutes, We'll start
(29:00):
taking your calls eight seven, seven, nine, nine six six
three sixty nine eight seven seven, nine to nine on
Fox and what I want from the folks, And you've
just done a sensational job. Since we started this ten
months ago. I just want your observations. What did you see,
what did your eyes tell you? And do you have
anything to add? Now, let me set this up from
(29:21):
thirty thousand feet and extend downward. And I am not
passing judgment on Tyreek Hill and I'm not passing judgment
on the police. I am just going to try to
speak cogently as to as to my general thoughts. We've
all been pulled over by the police. I've been pulled
over twice in the last year. One time I got
(29:41):
a ticket for speeding. I deserved it. The other time
I didn't get a ticket. One time I was driving
a Cadillac Escalade. I no longer have that car. And
here's the bottom line. This is what I've been told
by police, and by the way, I hope a police
officer calls it. During a midnight hour segment tonight at eight, seven, seven,
nine nine on Fox. What I like to do is,
(30:02):
whenever I'm pullover, very simple, I'm gonna be polite, I'm
gonna be cooperative, and I'm gonna be anonymous. I'm not
gonna say anything that would draw the I R that
he could write his report later in case I decided
to fight the ticket. I believe that if you follow
these simple rules, you're not gonna have an issue. Have
your license ready, have your registration, have your insurance, let
(30:23):
them see your hands. Okay, don't just roll down the
passenger window, roll down all four windows. I was told
by policeman that if you roll down all four windows
as they approach the vehicle, you're sending a signal. This
could be an easy one. Let's make sure you don't
have any warrants. Let's talk to you, what's going on,
check your driving record. Depending on your attitude the attitude test,
(30:44):
you may or may not get a ticket. You're dealing
with human beings. Here's where it goes south. If an
officer gives you a command, you may not like it.
You may not like his tone of voice. He may say,
pick your nose and count to ten backwards. You know, okay,
you might not do it because the minute you defy
that first command, you set a red flag period. And
(31:07):
you know it. If you are issued a second command
and you defy the second command, now you're inviting the fight.
You are inviting the fight, and you are sending a message.
And if you were hoping to be on your way
sooner rather than later. You just delayed it, and you
have to ask yourself. Okay, actions have consequences. Again, you
(31:29):
may not like the way you were talking to You
may not, but we have to respect authority in this country, whether.
Speaker 11 (31:34):
You like it or not.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Now again, I'm not here to get on my high horse.
I want to hear what the callers have to say,
but I do have three simple questions that I don't
think anybody could could really give me a whole lot
of craft for it, just asking a hashtag asking for
a friend. One, why did Tyree roll the window up?
I know what he told us, but why do he
(31:56):
really roll the window up? Secondly, as a comp approach
the vehicle, it appeared like he came on like thirty
yards of garlic, had a little bit of a red ass.
Who knows what kind of day he was having that day.
Who knows. I always been talked to in the past. Understand,
twenty seven years in the forest, He's probably seen a lot.
But it felt like he kind of set a tone,
set a tone just saying not trying to practice psychology
(32:18):
without a license. And then the third thing is why
did Tyreek end up on the ground. They could have
asked him to exit the vehicle, which he did. They
could have stood him up talk. I don't know. But see,
I don't know the protocol. I don't make the rules whatever.
So you get where I'm going with this. But it happened,
and immediately everybody rushes to their camp and the dialogue begins,
(32:39):
and there's never really people say they want to have
honest conversation. They don't. They don't. So what we're going
to try to do at midnight is get your thoughts,
on your observations as to what happened in your view,
and do you have anything to add to this. You've
all seen it by now. It's a continuing narrative. Tyreek
(32:59):
even out I think yesterday and said, yeah, I could
have handled it better, Okay, whatever, fair enough. I want
to hear what the peep's got to say. We're gonna
get to your calls at eight seven, seven nine, nine, six,
six three sixty nine at midnight. There wasn't There's also
going to be a second topic because I gotta tell you,
I gotta tell you. We talked about Tom Brady's debut
(33:23):
and what it might look like and on my Saturday
night show. I gave what I believe to be sort
of a journalistic template as to what I was looking
for from him, and I was really taken aback by
the amount of heat he took. So like I was
talking about with Mike Pritchet a minute ago, this is
how we are in this country. People get elevated at
the highest level. We turn him down. Here's a few
random tweets. Somebody named a doctor Jamie Jakes. I don't
(33:46):
want to overreact to week one, but Tom Brady is
the worst announcer in the NFL. You don't want to
overact to week one? Okay, sheeesh A good thing. What
would it have sounded like if you overacted? Jake is
somebody named Jake. Tom Brady hasn't looked this uncomfortable since
facing the Giants in the Super Bowl. Somebody named Luke.
Tom Brady can't seem to form any sentences that have
any sort of normal cadence to them. Somebody named Molly.
(34:08):
I've heard enough of Tom Brady. Justice for got gholst Ah.
There's another part of the culprit here. People were not
only some people bent that Brady got hired, moved to
the top of the class, paid hundred, three hundred and
seventy five million, but also through no fault to his
own elbowed out a guy that everybody genuinely loved, Greg Olson,
who was very good. Okay, somebody named Jonathan said, maybe
(34:29):
someone should have listened to Tom Brady actually say words before
dropping three hundred million on him. Okay. So Tom Brady
obviously had an inauspicious debut, took the year off from football,
signed the deal with Fox, and there's been a lot
of teasing and buzz about his debut, but he officially
made it happen last Sunday. He called his first game
(34:50):
and I watched intently. Cowboys hammered the Browns thirty three seventeen.
Brady got through it. I thought he was prepared, as
is the case, I thought he was a little robotic,
you know, not everybody. You might know the words to
New York, New York, but you can't sing it like
Sinatra out of the gate. Right, So coming up, I
really want to hear from the peeps tonight, pack them in.
I want to make sure all the callers. And by
(35:12):
the way, my Catholic gilt really got to me a
gentleman named Gary from Woke with great caller last week.
I had to cut him short because I didn't manage
the clock properly. And I think there's another named Gug
from San Diego.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I hope you guys call him tonight. By the way,
everybody who calls in does a great job, all right,
and I mean that, And the calls are very well
screened professionally, and you know people can get on are
very thoughtful, so I very much look forward to hearing you.
We'll wrap it up here, and in terms of tightening
up what I'm looking for from your calls tonight, coming up,
(35:44):
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Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Okay, let's refresh this. Last Sunday,
on the way to work, Tyreek was pullover, allegedly going
sixty in a forty in front of God and everybody.
You saw what transpired. It seemed to escalate. The next
thing you know, he's on the ground, and it raised
(37:12):
a lot of questions, and I don't know if the
questions have been answered. I know there's been a lot
of back and forth. I want to get your thoughts.
Just give me what your observations were. We're not trying
to solve the world's problems here. I've said it a
thousand times in the shopping mall, of Life Sports or
the toy department. So we're having dialogue here. We're having
(37:34):
an exchange between people, you know, thoughtful people. And the
callers during the midnight hour in the last ten months
have been just superb, just superb. The insights. It's almost
like a jury of twelve that can look deep into
a situation. It never fails. Someone will come up with
an angle or they'll have an observation we didn't really
necessarily think of. Just to reiterate my personal policy, be polite, cooperative,
(38:00):
be anonymous. Have your licensed registration insurance ready rolled on
all four windows. I was told that by a policeman.
And if we have any policeman calling and I I'd
love to hear from it. You're sending a message. Hey,
I'm not going to give you a hard time. Man,
Let's talk about this. I would like to know why
did Tyreek roll the window up. I'm never going to know.
I know what he told us. Why did the cop
(38:22):
appear to come on like thirty yards of garlic as
he approach your vehicle, looked like he had a bit
of a red ass. That may have set a tone
that's happened to me before. Okay, I'm you're not gonna
win that battle. Just go along to get along, be cooperative,
be professional. Once you pass the attitude test, I don't
think youre gonna have a problem. Is my opinion. Why
did Tyreek end up on the ground is that protocol?
(38:43):
Is that policy? Was that genuinely necessary? And again, with
all the respect to the policeman, and there are last
bastion between a completely crazy society and chaos and order,
So we got to respect these folks. An amazing job
they do. But Tyreekson had I had anea surgery brawl
and the cops said you should have had airsurgery. You
(39:03):
don't listen very well, So just part of the mix.
Want to hear your thoughts on that. And secondly, Tom
Brady's debut was considered dubious by a hell of a
lot of people, and how many of them were just
ticked off that he aced out Greg Olsen, who was
doing a phenomenal job. There were at least one hundred
and seventy tweets that I read that had responded to
(39:26):
Brady's performance, and most of them were not very flattering.
Like I said, this one guy starts out, I don't
want to overreact to Week one, but Tom Brady's the
worst announcer in the NFL. Well, let's not overreact, but
I want you to react. Eight seven seven nine nine
six six three sixty nine eight seven seven ninety nine
nine Fox. Let's talk Tyreek Hill. Let's talk Tom Brady.
(39:48):
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great subjects this week, Tyreek Kill, Tom Brady. You know
where we're going. It's that time. It's a midnight hour.
Callers are lining up. I want to get to all
of you, and I want to reiterate this. It made
sound crazy, but we had a caller last week from Oakland.
I believe his name is Gary. Gary, if you can
hear this call back in the night, I want to
give you your time that I wasn't able to give
you last week. Same with Doug in San Diego, Tyreek Hill,
(40:51):
Tom Brady, let's light this can. But we begin with
Dwayne in Orlando. Hey, Dwayne, how are you tonight? Good
to hear from you.
Speaker 12 (41:01):
I'm all right, sir, Thank you for kicking my call.
Speaker 11 (41:03):
Yes, sir, I want to touch upon the Tyreek situation.
Speaker 12 (41:08):
I just want to, you know, just real briefly speaking
from somebody a blackmail from Florida. So we'll preference this
being that the police officer is a twenty seven year veteran.
I figure he's worked this Miami Dolphin's home game detailed
in previous previous seasons. I don't think This was his
(41:31):
first go round, so he kind of has an idea
of what athletes drive, what cars, and who comes in.
So I preferenced that by saying, Okay, Tyreek, what's speeding,
which a lot of folks in South Florida speeds, and
I'm not condoning or or making any excuses for speeding.
But I do think the police officer kind of knew
(41:53):
he was who.
Speaker 13 (41:55):
He was going to be pulling over. And so with that,
it already kind of set of tones.
Speaker 12 (42:01):
Because he kind of came up with the attitude, I
don't care if you're a superstar, I'm going to You're
going to be treated like a regular citizen. Will prepae that.
So with Tyreek reach your question why he rolled up
his windows, I would say, you know a couple of things.
It is very hot out there in Florida, in South Florida,
and he was also on the phone with his agent,
(42:23):
so probably to get a better reception. But I would
play Devil's advocate and saying how the police officer approached Tyreek,
He Tyreek, if he really wants to talk the truth,
maybe pulled up the windows to antagonize that cop. And
so now we have both two two stubborn attitudes going
at each other. It escalated to a point where it
(42:47):
really didn't need to be. If Tyreek would have gotten arrested,
a charge would because being from Florida, a charge would
have been set that he would was resisting arrest without violence.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
But the bigger picture in this when we.
Speaker 13 (43:04):
And I hate to bring a race card, but a
lot of the times in the current climate that we end.
Speaker 12 (43:11):
We think of racism as being just black and white.
But again, being from Florida, there's a strong disconnect between
the Cube and American community and the Black American community,
and I'm just I'm just wondering if that also played
a part of it.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
First of all, I appreciate your perspective and living in Florida,
I think you bring up a couple of insights that
we might have thought of. Copp probably has worked that beat.
It's game day. He knows what's what, he knows the
way of the you know, the lay of the land there.
And I do agree that both sides were little antagonistic,
and that's what happens and these things escalate. But I
think he covered a lot of great ground there. Very
objective appreciated. You have any interest in weighing in on
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Tom Brady at all.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
They with did tom Brady real quick?
Speaker 11 (43:56):
You got to give him a chance.
Speaker 13 (43:57):
It was it was his first it was his first
go around, you know, this was his preseason and everything.
Speaker 11 (44:04):
But I do feel there's a you know, there's a
lot of.
Speaker 12 (44:08):
Drawback with Tom Brady, with his success with the Beautiful
White what is his old life.
Speaker 13 (44:14):
So anything that tom Brady does is going to be good.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Put on the microscope.
Speaker 12 (44:17):
But just give him a chance and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 13 (44:20):
I think if we're taking my call, you have a
great weekend.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
So hey, Dwayne, thanks for checking in. We are we are.
Don't don't be a stranger man. That was really good stuff,
very sincere, I believe. And also you know we do
this every Friday night, Dwayne with three am in your time,
but jump in man, join us. Chris in Michigan, you
are up next. Good evening, Good morning. I guess how
are you?
Speaker 11 (44:43):
I'm good?
Speaker 3 (44:44):
How are you well?
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Part of Michigan? You call him from Chris. You know,
I got to ask that.
Speaker 14 (44:47):
I'm from Jackson, Michigan, just about thirty miles from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I know where Jackson is Buddy Live, I lived in
Michigan seventeen years and and here that's Tony Dungee Country right,
Jackson A Liub and Christy right good Foot. See see
all right, let's talk real quick. I want to get
to all the callers, so give me your thoughts and
observations on the Tyreek Hill situation.
Speaker 14 (45:08):
Well, it's kind of a sticky situation to be honest
with you. You you, I agree with you. I don't
like how the situation was handed necessarily, but I I
think he should have listened a little better.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 14 (45:28):
I think he should have I put my hands out
the window when I get pulled over.
Speaker 11 (45:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
About you, but I put him on the steering wheel,
want of the things. See your hands? Look, listen. I
if you heard that last caller, he really covered some
good ground, Dwayne. He basically said he thought that, you know,
the cop came on hard. But Tyreek's like, hey man,
you know, I'm gonna treat you like a regular person
even though you're you're a star. And Trek's like, okay, man,
(45:57):
I play that game too. I'm gonna run it up
your butt. Go ahead, you on.
Speaker 14 (46:01):
Yeah, Well I agree though. I mean when when I
get pulled over, I stick my hands out the window
when it's like I.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Guess fair enough did and I and I don't want
to cut you short on that, but what were your observations?
You just you thought the cop the cop created it,
let the fire. What were your off tell us something
you can add to this the incident.
Speaker 14 (46:20):
You know, I really didn't like the way they took
him down kind of hard, and you know, I just
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
I just that's why I want a policeman to call
because is that protocol? Is that protocol to make sure
I don't I don't know what to think real quickly,
Chris being in Michigan Country, any thoughts on Tom Brady's debut.
Speaker 14 (46:38):
Oh, I actually didn't like.
Speaker 11 (46:41):
I'm a Michigan State fan, so I really.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Enough said right there? All right, Chris, Hey, I want
to ans to these callers. Hey, thanks a lot, don't
be a stranger. Mark and Maryland, you're up next. Thanks
for your patients. We'll get to all of you tonight. Everybody.
Hang tight, Mark, Troy Man, Well, George, Jim. We're gonna
get to all you. Mark, You're up next. Mark and Maryland.
Speaker 11 (47:02):
Hike Bernie, I really enjoyed the show. I really enjoy you.
My observation. I'm a black male, sixty years of age.
I had a lot of police encounters in traffic. I think,
of course Tyreek could have handled it better. Now I'm
(47:24):
going to kind of piggyback on what the other guy
said from Florida. First of all, when cops pull you over,
police pull you over, they run your tags so they
know who that was.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I really really.
Speaker 11 (47:38):
Believe that now Tyreek handled it. He's a very polarizing figure.
He did not help himself, not at all.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
But it was very, very disturbing.
Speaker 11 (47:47):
Okay, this is a professional. I think the lines will
blurred between professional and personal. Okay, this police officer was
way at the end on a power trip. As soon
as Tyreek did not comply and gave him a little attitude,
he went off. He did not Tyreek was asking Michelle, chill, chill.
(48:11):
Once he did all of that and all that, it
could have been de escalated. This police officer did not
want to hear it. He wanted to teach Tyreek a lesson. Okay,
I'm not really sympathetic to Tyreek because he brought it
on himself to a degree, but this cop gould have
remained professional. He was not professionally in any way, shape
(48:33):
or form. So that's my comment on that. It was very,
very disturbing. I think there's a whole lot of BW
BW black while driving that's going on. I mean, it's
just real. It's a fact of nature. Okay, It's just
a flat fact that black people have to deal with
(48:54):
each and every day. So that's real talk. Now as
far as talk tom Brady, I didn't hear it. I
didn't watch the games. I didn't hear it. But I
do know one thing about Tom Brady. Tom Brady is
an overachiever. He always has been. First, it's a rush
to judgment. People are haters because Tom Brady is so called.
(49:18):
He's the Golden Boy Ben the Golden Boys. People love
to tell you down like you though, So what I'm
trying to say is I do know what this. I
know one thing about Tom Brady. He's hearing all this.
Tom Brady is an overachiever and his work ethic is unparalleled,
and he will rise to the occasion. So give him
a break, you know. That's all I got to say
(49:40):
about it.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Mark excellent call on man thanks so much. Don't be
a stranger. We do this every Friday night, Saturday and
Saturday morning. Very thoughtful, very objective. And what I like
is I hear the genuine sincerity in the voice. Just
good stuff. Let's keep it rolling. Troy in Texas up next,
Good evening.
Speaker 15 (50:01):
How are you morning bird, Morcaholm.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Now, yeah, ok yeah, I can hear you.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Fine, you got the floor.
Speaker 15 (50:08):
Go ahead, Texas. What I anyway on the Tyreek saying okay?
First off, his excuse of I had to roll my
window up because I didn't want to tract attention to myself. Well,
you're pulled over in a three hundred thousand dollars McLaren
with how many lights flashing behind you? I think you
already got attention to tracted to yourself as far as
that goes. But what you don't do is when an
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officer gives you orders, you don't mart orders back at them.
You've already escalated the situation. So I don't care if
you're black, white, or whatever. You're not going to get
a positive response from police officers when you do that.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
So Troy, let me let me respond to that, because
I believe both Dwayne and Mark were very articulate in
that they admit freely Tyreek did him self no favors.
The real question is how does he end up on
the ground? That was the visual that I think is,
will do you think being on the ground was warranted?
And we have a gentleman, who's that tired deputy coming up?
But we're gonna get to them, and I really want
to hear his thoughts based on what I mean the
(51:05):
enforcement protocol is that may have been I don't know,
I'm not that smart.
Speaker 15 (51:08):
Go ahead, okay, No, I mean putting him on the ground. No,
I mean just take him out of the car, put
them up against the car, put handcuffs on them, whatever,
that's enough.
Speaker 16 (51:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (51:19):
No, they went a little over the edge.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
At that point.
Speaker 15 (51:21):
But once you escalate a situation with the police, you
just never know what you're going to get. That's why
the NFL needs to use these videos as training for
rookies when they come into the league.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
They already do. They already do. And the truth of
the matter is, I think ninety nine point seven percent
of the league falls right in line. Or you have
a story like this every week, you would I just
I didn't mean to cut you off, but again I
don't We're not gonna. I think your observations on the
stop itself are fine. I want to really kind of
keep it there any quickly, Troy. Anything on Tom Brady?
Speaker 15 (51:58):
Yeah, Tom Brady was the super smooth No, but who
is when they go to do anything for the first time.
I mean, you're going to get better as you go.
So as far as Tom goes worst broadcaster, no, but
is there something they can do to improve? Of course,
and he will as time goes by. Okay, so Greg
Olsen has obviously been doing it for a lot longer
(52:20):
than him. I would I don't think I would have
taken Greg off the prime time step right away, but
you know the network's gonna do what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
So yep, they are an excellent call. Thanks so much, Troy.
Checking in Texas, Oklahoma or wherever you are. Rest easy,
my man, and we all know why the network did it.
You may be curious to know that twenty three million
people watch that game, up from fifteen million in the
same time slot the year before. Ladies and gentlemen, you
know him, you love me, can't live without him. It's time.
(52:49):
Manuel in Guardina, Manuel what's that, big.
Speaker 16 (52:52):
Fellaw just want to sell a pray because I'm all
way chill them if not out, Hey.
Speaker 17 (53:02):
Bernie, excellent show is always my man, So let's get
right to business. Tyreek. Yes he was driving Wall black EWB,
but he's also driving wall stupid.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
All right.
Speaker 17 (53:14):
I'm a minority. I've been pulled over way more than
I need to. You know, didn't always keep the best company.
So I've been through that, man, and really, like you said, man,
it's all about just being cool with the situation, being
smart about it. There's no need to bark orders and
(53:35):
roll up your windows. It's just stupid, man. And I'm
sure that wasn't the first time he's been pulled over,
So I don't know, man, I think he needs to
do better. As far as Tom Brady, I would take
Tom Brady every day and twice on Sunday as announcer
over that bloated artist that used to be known as
(53:58):
al Michaels and Herbie Boy.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
That's a topic. People are calling for him to hang
it up. Go ahead, good, someone needs.
Speaker 17 (54:04):
To hang it up, man. At this point, I'd rather
have Herbie the love Bug and freaking Michael Myers calling
the game. I mean, it's a sham. This guy is
one of the best ever and he's so disinterested. It
reminds reminiscent of freaking Elvis in his last dage bloated,
you know, just belting out tunes out of tune.
Speaker 11 (54:28):
They just need to take it away.
Speaker 17 (54:29):
Hey, Bernie, keep up the good work.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
I love you, my brother and Ah just bona celebrace
bad gentlemen. In the comedic stylings of Manuel and Guardina
worth the price of admission, although we don't charge admission,
but there you have it. That's why we love Manuel.
You get Rare Earth, you get Wilson Pickett, you get
Herbie the Lovebug number fifty three, and you wrap it
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up with Elvis. Who can top that? Well, you're gonna
have your chance. George, Jim, Danny, Dan and Sandy you
go and Gary and Oakland's back. Gary, You're gonna get
full time on man. I apologize for cutting you short
last week. Folks, don't go in and we're off to
a rock and start and it's gonna continue. The Midnight
Hour is here. I'm Bernie frattlework coming toy line from
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All right back on The Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.
The Midnight Hour continues Jim, Danny, Dan, Gary, Arthur, Hank Tight.
We're gonna get to all of you. I really want
to hear what you got to say. But we continue
with George in Texas. George, uh Gehoria, Good evening, Good morning,
you're up.
Speaker 8 (55:48):
Hey Bernie, I'm good.
Speaker 16 (55:50):
How are you, buddy?
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Doing well?
Speaker 11 (55:52):
My friend, I'm gonna be a little.
Speaker 16 (55:54):
Different probably than all your callers in the first segment
there after, call it. I spent my first one year's
working career in law enforcement and retired at forty two,
and I've done other things. I'm in my sixties now,
I'm raising my grandkids right now, and so I didn't
really even I stop watching professional athletes getting in trouble
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after Ray Carruthers, and.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
That's a bad one.
Speaker 16 (56:19):
The linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens. He should have went
to prison, and then another Ravens running back beat up
his girlfriend. You know, I just stopped really looking at
this stuff, especially with the social media.
Speaker 18 (56:30):
But I do know this.
Speaker 16 (56:31):
Okay, I didn't spend a lot of time in traffic,
but let me do. Let me give me twenty seconds
to do this point.
Speaker 11 (56:38):
Okay.
Speaker 16 (56:38):
I'm in my sixties. I'm raising my grandkids eight, ten, thirteen,
and fifteen. And one of the biggest things they had
to learn was respect for authority. And so I tell
them the best way to shut an adult up is
just to say yes sir or no sir, and do.
Speaker 7 (56:54):
What is asked.
Speaker 16 (56:55):
And if you have questions after you've completed the task,
then let's talk about it. Okay, this young man I
love Tyree. I mean, great athlete, right, He's got some
great I've seen him on YouTube with some you know,
playing flag football with kids and doing some great stuff.
But Bernie, I'm telling you right now, and by the way,
your friend in Guardina, he is not the minority. The
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minority or the white cops in Guardina. That's where I'm
from down there. But anyways, those cops in South Florida
have been just crushed for the last forty years, whether
it's drug dealers or or whatever whatever.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
As in proteins as I'd like you to be a
regular caller. But what I want to do, my man,
and I respect and thank you for your service, focus
specifically on this individual. Stop.
Speaker 16 (57:42):
I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
I'm sorry because I got to get to everybody.
Speaker 11 (57:45):
Go ahead, I got you.
Speaker 16 (57:46):
So so the white cop, so, I don't care how
long he's been serving, if he's been serving in South Florida,
he does have to look at himself in the mirror
before he gets out on patrol and know that he
is the enemy tonight. Percent of the people in South Florida.
Tyreek did not help himself. Okay, And the driving while
black and all that crap, that all stopped in the nineties. Yes,
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it happened for thirty or forty years, but that does
not happen as a general rule anymore. If Tyreek would
he just said, yes, sir, I'm speeding, give me a ticket.
I'll pay the three hundred dollars fine because it's twenty.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Over two quick questions.
Speaker 3 (58:22):
Jam.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
So when he rolled up the window, let's pretend you're
in that stop. What message does that send you when
you rolled up the window. And secondly, and I really
need to know this in terms of protocol, not Birday's opinion,
not the group think echo chamber. Is it policy to
put a man on the ground in that situation?
Speaker 16 (58:39):
Yes, an athlete. Look, look, the dude is a badass athlete.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
Now.
Speaker 16 (58:44):
I used to hang out with a couple of pro
athletes in southern California party with him, and those guys
are really cool. But if you put them in a
situation where they felt threatened, they will hurt you. They
will hurt you. And cops are taught verbal judo. You
have to stay one step ahead or one step above
of whatever situation.
Speaker 7 (59:04):
Is going on.
Speaker 16 (59:06):
And yes, yes he should have been put on the ground.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
And what was the message you would have received when
the window was going back up?
Speaker 16 (59:14):
See, and this is why I'm not a cop anymore.
But if he would have done this, if somebody would
have done that to me twenty years ago, my nightsticks
breaking the window and I'm pulling him out of the car.
But that didn't happen obviously, So the cops are trained
way better than I was when I was a kid.
But I'm just saying it could have stopped with him
saying I was speeding. I'm late for the game. Please
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give me the ticket. Here's my insurance. As long as
there's no wants and warrants, I'll get the hell out
of here. And I bet you the copsert To said,
all right, Tedrek, we want you to win the game.
Let me let's get you to the game.
Speaker 11 (59:47):
But he didn't do that.
Speaker 16 (59:48):
And so this driving off black thing, it's such.
Speaker 19 (59:51):
An issue now.
Speaker 16 (59:52):
I heard it four times in the seven or eight
callers that you had one of your first segments, and
all those guys said it heartfelt and I get it,
but that stuff doesn't happen any longer. I mean, it
happens in certain situations once in a while, but oh
my goodness, it doesn't happen like the five or six
callers that brought it up in your first segment. The
Anway's Bertie loved the show.
Speaker 11 (01:00:13):
I know you've got other folks to get to.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yeah, don't be a stranger with us when we cover
a lot of subject matter. I appreciate everybody taking well,
thank you, Jim. Appreciate that. And the one thing I've
always purported to achieve in this segment, and I think
we do we remember. The most boring conversations are when
everybody agrees we are not necessarily in agreement on this.
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Where you sit is where you stand. The prism of
which you lived your life may determine how you see
future outcomes. The question is are all those perceptions reality?
So there's a gentleman twenty years on the force. Okay,
we're not solving the world's proms tonight, But man, I
knew this was going to rock tonight, and it is.
And now let's welcome in another gentleman from North Carolina.
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I understand Jim, you are a retired deputy as well.
How long are you on the force?
Speaker 11 (01:01:02):
About twenty years? Also, so I'd love to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Your thoughts on the specific stop and that took place
last Sunday from the perspective of a twenty year veteran,
and share with us some things you can add.
Speaker 14 (01:01:17):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Okay, I can hear you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Just find Jim okay?
Speaker 20 (01:01:21):
Uh Tyreick was Look, he's formed, the initiated the bad
attitude to begin with. As far as the officer's response.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
He went overboard.
Speaker 20 (01:01:35):
When he took him out of the vehicle, he seized
his freedom from him and detained him. He should have
made an arrest. In my opinion, he should have taken
him to jail as far as the window up. If
I'd made the decision, if I was going to stop,
if I was going to arrest the person take them
to jail, I would have used force to get in
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there to take custody of the subject. However, you've got
a minor traffic situation here, a gentleman driving McLaren arriving
at a professional football stagion. Obviously he's an athlete there
and he needs to There needs to be respect from
both sides. I think the city has a problem with
their employees and they need to be dealing with it.
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It appears that they have. They give him a different
type of duty, and that's fine. If I was him,
I would think I would find somewhere to retire and
get out.
Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
Of the business.
Speaker 13 (01:02:38):
We're talking about the policeman now, the policeman, yes, sir,
all right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Let me ask you a question, Jim. I wish I
would have asked the prior caller you're or the gentleman
who called before you. Also, twenty years on the force,
if you come upon a vehicle and I don't care
who it is. If they roll down all four windows
told me to do this? What message is that sending
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to you? For you even getting You see their hands,
you see their you see their paperwork, and all four
windows are rolled down. And I ain't gonna say a
damn word. You're gonna talk first, and I'll respond to
what you got to say. What message is that sending
to you?
Speaker 11 (01:03:17):
But you're going to be very cooperative.
Speaker 20 (01:03:20):
You're not gonna call the ulcer problem, and it will
be a very uneventful stop.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
So let's pretend the entire National Football League and Major
League Baseball and everybody whoever wore jocks listening tonight, take
ten seconds and say you want to avoid what happened
to you. Here's what you do.
Speaker 20 (01:03:41):
You got the floor, turn, turn the engine all take
your foot off the break. When you take your foot
off the break, you're showing I'm not gonna be driving away.
Speaker 11 (01:03:50):
From the windows down.
Speaker 20 (01:03:52):
Don't necessarily go ahead and reach for your stuff yet,
allow the ulcer to tell you, ask you to for
your driver's license registration, Allow them to.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Allow the also to tell you that, all right, appreciate it.
We're trying to learn protocol again, we've got calls from
ALC's life. Jim, thanks for your service. We do this
every Friday night, eleven pm. Check that Bernie come on
twelve midnight. Thanks a lot, Jim. Appreciate your time tonight.
Danny in Northern California, appreciate your patience. You are up next.
Speaker 21 (01:04:27):
Holy No, you know it's difficult to respect people when
they demand respected violence, right, like?
Speaker 22 (01:04:35):
And why is it?
Speaker 14 (01:04:36):
Is it ego enforcement or is this large court?
Speaker 21 (01:04:38):
I don't understand the content desire to be in control
all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
You're not well, you're not wrong. The egos are part
of this because you're dealing with human beings, Danny, and
human beings typically act out emotion and justify it later
with logic. But let's talk about this. Let's talk about
this specific incident. I want to what would you see
and what can you add the way you saw?
Speaker 21 (01:05:01):
What I can tell you is there's there's no there's
this is kind of a hobby, loss of mind. There's
no law that people have to put down their window, Like,
that's not a law.
Speaker 11 (01:05:09):
So there's no officer.
Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Well, how are you going to hand off to your paperwork?
Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Then?
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
How are you going to do that.
Speaker 21 (01:05:13):
But Bernie, you don't even have to hand them your paper.
You just have to present it to the window. You
have to make it clear, you have to present it.
You have to do these things. But you know, ego
gets to the way all the time with these things.
Speaker 14 (01:05:23):
Is God forbid someone to defy these people.
Speaker 11 (01:05:26):
Like the same people who use violence to demand cooperation?
Speaker 21 (01:05:30):
Right, Like, I can't believe how people push back against that.
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
This stacific stuff was.
Speaker 21 (01:05:36):
You know, there's no laws, that's what you went up.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
There isn't This is okay right here, I understand that's
your referendum. So in this you believe Tyree cad no
no obligation to roll down his window, even though the officer.
Speaker 21 (01:05:49):
Was by law, it's law enforcement, not feelings enforcement. Right,
This is not ego enforcement. This is law enforcement. There
is no law that says you have to roll your
window down.
Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
You believe Tyre. I don't want to put words in
your mouth. You're tell me you believe Tyree was one
in the right.
Speaker 21 (01:06:05):
Oh hell no, he's act like an idiot act. I'm
a white welth Buken guy who has always had and
I've got away with large stuff because.
Speaker 23 (01:06:13):
I'm white and I can people sometimes.
Speaker 21 (01:06:17):
Up to you, right, but Tyreek, we brought it upon himself.
But you can't be people who we trusted force these
laws can't be demanded.
Speaker 11 (01:06:24):
It's not even a lot.
Speaker 13 (01:06:25):
There's no loss.
Speaker 24 (01:06:25):
There's a lot for that.
Speaker 14 (01:06:27):
People seem to miss that.
Speaker 21 (01:06:28):
You just see like being told no, you know, no
no special costume about any Danny.
Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I appreciate you, my man. I appreciate your energy, I
appreciate your enthusiasm. I think you've abuttantly made your point,
and certainly you're welcome to hear from you again. On
this show, we have another Dan. This time it's Dan
in San Diego. Your thoughts on the specific incident. What
did your eyeballs tell you?
Speaker 11 (01:06:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 19 (01:06:50):
So, I mean, first off, so so the Dolphins are
my team, right, So I'm I'm I'm biased. I'm biased
when it comes to Tyreek kill. I'm biased when it
comes to Dolphins. However, I'm of the belief that that
police officers disliked when the average citizen exercises their right. Okay,
and so for this specific situation, I believe there was
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fault on both parts. However, when the cop came up
to the window, I think when as soon as she
realized maybe who it was, or as soon as he
got any sort of you know what, I'm going to
stand my grounds in tyree. I think he had had
the standpoint of I'm going to make an example out
of this guy and used way.
Speaker 14 (01:07:30):
Except the force.
Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Yeah, okay, Dan, thank you, Thank you so much for
your thoughts appreciated. I'm inclined to have that has been
a little bit of my observation there, because it felt
like the first thing out of the officer's bounce is
why are your seatbel buff Well, listen, I wear my
seatbelt money idiot, but when I'm pulled over sometimes I
have to unbuckle my seat belt to get my stuff
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that me and my seatbelt wasn't on. So that seemed
to he came on like thirty yards of garlic, just
saying opinion.
Speaker 11 (01:08:01):
What do I know.
Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
I'm just an Italian kid from Detroit who's trying to
do a radio show. This next gentlemen, I'm Gary. I'm
so glad you called back because you were on a
roll last week and I didn't manage the time clock
well and it's good to have you back in. What
are your thoughts tonight? You will not be cut short.
Speaker 25 (01:08:19):
First of all, Bernie, I appreciate your hospitality, and you
do your job. Take care of your business because we.
Speaker 11 (01:08:25):
Need you to keep your show going.
Speaker 25 (01:08:28):
When it comes to this Tyreek Hill thing, I think
everybody need to take a couple of steps back. I've
worked at arenas, I've worked at coliseum special events for years.
Most athletes, most high executives of teams, advertisers, networks, they
come to work like two, three, four hours before an event.
(01:08:53):
I guarantee you Tyreek was out there that this incident
happened a couple of.
Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Hours before the event.
Speaker 25 (01:09:00):
At that point, most of traffic control is not only
traffic control, but it's a level of hospitality because we
have a lot of rich, high levels, special individuals. That
car is not a normal car, that's.
Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Not an expensive car.
Speaker 25 (01:09:20):
That's a very very very abnormal car that's coming through
there a couple hours before the event.
Speaker 17 (01:09:27):
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 25 (01:09:29):
I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Really I didn't.
Speaker 25 (01:09:32):
I didn't want to harp on this because I'm a
black man in America that's growing up in America, and
I still have to be careful with California place, driving
anywhere in America.
Speaker 18 (01:09:44):
But.
Speaker 25 (01:09:45):
Anything else tonight, Gary Forrest, he stopped the guy, and
he said he must have said something to make Tyreek
call his agent. I don't think that any athletes and
beautiful women and celebrities, they go for it. The officer
could have just told him, hey, like, calm down, slow down,
I'll see who you are.
Speaker 26 (01:10:05):
Please be careful, get to your job.
Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Don't do this again.
Speaker 25 (01:10:10):
He said something that Tyreek ha scared him to make
him roll the.
Speaker 11 (01:10:12):
Window up and call his agent. So all right, after
that we get.
Speaker 25 (01:10:20):
Into like the black white thing police than traffic stuff thing.
But the whole beginning of that is off.
Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
It's not proper, all right, Jerry, anything else, my man.
Speaker 25 (01:10:34):
The Tom Brady thing, yes, is the same thing. I'm
not a Boston Patriots fan. I'm not a Tom Brady fan,
but for him to get thrown in the number.
Speaker 24 (01:10:45):
One seat on day one.
Speaker 25 (01:10:47):
Of work is almost like everybody's not for him even
being on that job, like somebody's against you, and whoever
that is. If there is somebody like that to put
him in the hot seat day one, I think a
lot of us learn the hard way. Don't ever bet
against Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Well said, you covered a lot of ground there. Gary,
I hope to hear from you. We do this every
Friday night. Okay, buddy, rest easy there, my man. The
dun found the stroke in Oakland. My little tower of
power reference Arthur and Philadelphia. You're up next.
Speaker 13 (01:11:20):
Good morning, sir.
Speaker 11 (01:11:21):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
I'm doing well, my friend. How are you?
Speaker 27 (01:11:24):
I'm doing quite well well. First of all, it's first
time kill all these athletes. If you get stopped, can
you show you your idea?
Speaker 14 (01:11:32):
Your cooperative?
Speaker 11 (01:11:33):
There's no popping?
Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Now? What did you see here? What did you see?
You're in this specific incident?
Speaker 27 (01:11:40):
Well from what I'm not certain of the facts, but
I heard he rolled up his window.
Speaker 11 (01:11:44):
He did. Now you could take see it on video.
Speaker 27 (01:11:47):
Yes, maybe he was scared. Maybe you were defying, because,
like I said, I'm not certain of my facts. I
heard he told you ALKI do you know who I am?
But I don't care who you are.
Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Has that been confirmed?
Speaker 27 (01:12:01):
I've heard it on more than one occasion.
Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Okay, well, okay, okay.
Speaker 24 (01:12:05):
Because you hear celebrities.
Speaker 27 (01:12:06):
In Hollywood say that they get stopped, you know who
I am?
Speaker 17 (01:12:08):
That doesn't it here to like the committed crime.
Speaker 27 (01:12:11):
I mean as far as being anything, alright.
Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
But as far as this specific incident, Arthur, what I
want to try to do is anything you can add
to what's been talked about tonight, your thoughts.
Speaker 27 (01:12:22):
Okay, there was antation one time when I was stopped
by police, I look like a Robbie sub Step, And
when I looked at it, at the photo I had
said that morning, I did.
Speaker 14 (01:12:34):
Look like him.
Speaker 27 (01:12:34):
But you know what that answer said, even run away,
you stopped him.
Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
The corporate there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
There's your takeaway. There's your takeaway, and I gotta get Arthur,
don't be a stranger. You're welcome anytime. I want to
get to all the callers. But I think that's a
takeaway in your behalf you're implying and you may not
be wrong at all. That from the officer's eyes, and
he's paid to do this. He did not believe Tyr
tyry Kill's quap and in my opinion, comps least here.
(01:13:03):
So that's what we have to kind of roll with. Alan.
We go back down to Florida. Alan, welcome in. How
are you?
Speaker 24 (01:13:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
How you doing?
Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
I'm a white guy in my sixties and I would
like to touch base on multiple ends. This was handled
the wrong way. Let me just talk to the good cops.
I understand that you need to make split second decisions
and that's not an easy job to do. So I
appreciate the work you do. Thank you for protecting me.
Thanks for doing your job. Secondly, I'll talk about the
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bad cops.
Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Now.
Speaker 7 (01:13:32):
The single most powerful figure in the criminal justice system
is that bad coop on the street. Now, if they
have five to ten incidents fat the aggressive, they should
put behind the desk. This the way you wead out
the bad cops.
Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Okay, how does that relate to this traffic stop?
Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Man, I'm not disavowing. I'm not disavowing, but I got
to get these other calls. I want your thoughts on
this incident.
Speaker 7 (01:13:55):
It was handled bad on both ends. The bottom line
is that look, just put being black in America in
this day and age. This isn't sixty seventy years.
Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
This is slavery.
Speaker 7 (01:14:07):
You shouldn't get pulled over from being black. Only not
for this incidence. It happens every single hour of the
day and there's no cameras on h and they shoot
someone and they say he reached from my gun.
Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
I was a fan of my.
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Life again again. I don't know how that relates to this.
I gotta let you go, Alan, and not not because
I don't like you or your call, but I just
got a standpoint with this specific incident. You are articulating
some sociological, you know, opinions, and I'm not going to
say it right or wrong. I'm I'm. I appreciate your
knowledge base and the fact you waited online to call,
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but I just got to focus on this particular incident.
We're going to continue. We have another retired cop Jim
in California and Clinton, Ohio and uh and I want
you to hang right there, guys, I very much want
to hear what you've got to say. I'm Bernie Frattle.
We are coming to life from Las Vegas. Fox Sport's
ready to direct dot com studios, keep it locked and
listening to the Bernie Fraddle on Fox Sports Radio. Hi,
(01:15:01):
We're back on the Bernie Frattle Show the midnight hour.
He is continuing on, it's been fabulous. I can't thank
the callers enough. Let's go back out to the phone
lines a gym in California. I understand you are also
retired law enforcement looking for what you've got to say, Bernie, Yes.
Speaker 28 (01:15:20):
I am retired law enforcement. I worked thirty two years
in southern California. And let's take this incident into perspective.
These officers were working the football game. They were assigned
to the Dolphins game for that day, probably assigned to
all of the home games.
Speaker 18 (01:15:40):
And that's over time that's paid by the NFL. So
you know on your post, if you're working a certain street,
you're going to see these players come through in their cars. Yes,
Tyreek was speedy. The officer pulling him over, Tyreek handed
him to his driver's license. You heard Tyreek say as
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they were talking, go ahead and write me my ticket
before he rolled.
Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
The window up.
Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Yes, I did hear that. Yep.
Speaker 18 (01:16:09):
Yes, at that point, if Tyrek was acting that way
all the the officer should have just walked back to
his motorcycle and written the ticket. Because even though Tyreek
rolled his window up and the window was tinted, Tyreek
was on his way to the football game, so he
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was no threat.
Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
To those officers. Go ahead.
Speaker 18 (01:16:35):
It wasn't as if he was going to reach under
his seat and grab a gun and start shooting.
Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Okay, I really love that, and I love that perspective,
continue on and I have one more caller after you
would continue on.
Speaker 18 (01:16:51):
So now they want to get into a back and
forth about rolling the window down, because now the officers
are upset.
Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
He write the ticket, he could see yeah, go ahead, yes,
go back.
Speaker 18 (01:17:04):
Right the ticket, come back to the window. He's going
to have to roll the window down to sign the ticket. Also,
if you look at that incident, there were probably six
motorcycle cops there at the scene saw it, but if
you truly watch it, there's only one officer that's out
of control, and that's the one with the black sleeves
that grabbed Tyreek.
Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
And throw him to the ground.
Speaker 18 (01:17:25):
That guy absolutely no reason to throw him on the ground.
You escalated a traffic stop ticket into a use of
force that isn't policy.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Superb call listen, I have one more to get to.
You gave two outstanding insights that Tyree, in his own mind,
believe he was cooperating. Here's my stuff, write me the
ticket so I can get to work, and then it
escalated from there and it didn't have to. I think
that's just terrific insight. Clinton o'hil you're going to wrap
this up. Give us your thoughts.
Speaker 29 (01:17:55):
Your last caller made a point that I don't get
why there like six cops there, that it's it was
a rude.
Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
It was a rude. I got to tell you, I
covered Detroit Lions for ten years. You go Brush Avenue
game just cops everywhere. So that's that's your standard procedure.
Speaker 29 (01:18:11):
Go ahead, Okay, okay, I did that. But six of
them all stopping at the same.
Speaker 18 (01:18:19):
You give me up.
Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
We don't know. We're speculating. But is that your observation
that they were there only because of Tyreek? They had
six more backups just because of that, is your observation.
Speaker 29 (01:18:30):
I don't know, But okay, I don't know why there
were six cops there.
Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I think I I listen, having cover again covered the
lines for ten years. Game day is packed. You got
citizens walking, you've got traffic, you got all kinds of stuff.
So a lot of guys are on the beat so
they can get people in and out anything else. Clint,
I appreciate you. I just got a few seconds anything
to wrap it up.
Speaker 29 (01:18:53):
I sort of understand why Tyreek got as angry as
he did. They cought in general, they're getting a little bit.
Speaker 11 (01:19:05):
Too all right.
Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
We don't want to talk in general. Thanks a lot, Clint.
Listen call next week we'll hear from you. I don't
want to talk in generality, don't want to talk about
that incident. And you gave your opinion and I respect it.
Coming up. You like movies, you like sports. We're gonna
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We like movies, we like sports, and often there is
an intersection between the two. And that's exactly why at
one am Pacific time every Friday night, we talk movies
in sports. We called threes, not one.
Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
Not two, but three.
Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
It's entertainment, it's good, it's breeze.
Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Three, it's movie time. Take it away, Bree.
Speaker 30 (01:20:14):
Alrighty, So we saw last Saturday, we saw Northern Illinois
take down number five Notre Dame, and that was quite
the upset. And I'm sure everybody saw a head coach
Thomas Hammick's postgame interview and how emotional that was. And
so just kind of got me thinking like underdog stories,
(01:20:36):
like what are some like really good like underdog movies?
And so I started thinking of a few. I'm gonna
go real girl mode first. I'm gonna go hardcore like
legally blonde. I'm gonna go Reese Witherspoon because I feel like,
you know, she went to law school just to get
her boyfriend back, but then you know, she realized she
wasn't gonna get him back, and she still became like
(01:20:56):
this badass lawyer. So that was my one of the
ones I chose. Kind of a classic, kind of just
like an easy watch.
Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Right, came out in two thousand and one. It was
actually pretty good cast as well.
Speaker 31 (01:21:09):
Yeah, Selma Blair, Luke Wilson.
Speaker 30 (01:21:13):
Yeah, it's like Richard what the main lawyer guy. I
totally blanked on his name. I was gonna say Richard Gear,
but I know it's not Richard gear.
Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Uh you're talking about the one, uh that that Reese
was trying to get back.
Speaker 30 (01:21:29):
Curry favor with, like the the one that he was
like the head professor at Harvard. I know, I totally
blanked on his name. So anyways, so Legally Blonde was
one of mine. Then I went the King's speech, and
I know we've talked about that in the past, but
I mean he had to overcome you know, Prince Albert
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had to overcome his speech impediment, which I thought was
a really big deal and just kind of like overcoming
a huge obstacle. And then I went a little Miss Sunshine,
which I thought was a little bit random, but just
like a little fun just because it just really like
showed like that family dynamic, trying to help Olive, like
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trying to win her beauty competition, and all the dysfunction
that happened in that family that was just like one
of a kind dysfunction that you can't even really like
think about.
Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
That movie had a wicked sense of humor at the
end that final scene. Yes, and Greg Kuaneer was phenomenal,
And yeah, I can picture the guy's face in in
the movie. Legally Blonde Victor somebody.
Speaker 30 (01:22:40):
But the point of the matter, that was kind of
an interesting air that was Yeah, Victor Garber, Victor Garber, Yes,
you did it.
Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
A lot of other stuff. Oh yeah, he's one of
those faces you kind of recognize.
Speaker 30 (01:22:50):
He's everywhere, You're right, right, Yeah, So I kind of
went a little bit all over the place when real
Girl mode went a little historical. And then I feel
like little Miss Sunshine kind of us that, like you know,
Indie kind of classic that everybody kind of still talks
about to that, especially.
Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
That last scene.
Speaker 31 (01:23:07):
I think everybody just kind of talks about that.
Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
It was wickedly. It broke down the fourth wall because
no one saw it coming. It was so funny, right
you just very interesting movie, the car ride, the conversations,
the dysfunction, and but you feel sort of the pain
and desire of this family to want to be better,
to wanna They want their young daughter to achieve something,
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and they go to great lengths so she can enter this,
you know, John Bine Ramsey type beauty contest, and the
final scene just blows everything up.
Speaker 31 (01:23:39):
Adam Arkin was so funny encouraging Grandpa.
Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Oh my god, the stuff that came out of his mouth.
That move is just epic. Adam rk Alan Is it
Alan Arkin or Adam?
Speaker 31 (01:23:48):
It's Alan Arkin?
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Alan Arkin. Yeah, another one of those classic faces you remember. Okay,
moving along, I guess who's next?
Speaker 30 (01:23:57):
Who do you You're next?
Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Okay? Well, okay, so I have First of all, there
was some crossover from last week. So I can't include
Rudy because I used it last week. You know, that's
a hell of an underdog movie. And I really can't
include Moneyball because I adored it, but no one sees
that as an underdog movie. And you gotta be a
baseball nut. But speaking of baseball, to me, Bad News
Bears was one of the greatest underdog movies. Both on
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this Walter Mathow this group, Chico's bail Bonds, Walter Mathout
drinking booze in the car driving up. He's down on
his luck. This team's down on his luck. Jackie Erro Haley,
Young Tatum O'Neill. They did a remake with Billy Bob Thornton.
It didn't come close the original one just simply holds up.
You can easily find it, you know, probably on Prime
or Netflix or whatever. But you know, Alfred lutter Rome
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wasn't built in the day. It was took a thousand year.
Just an epically fun, enjoyable classic cult movie. Bad News
Bearers now the second one based on a true story,
Hoosiers starring Gene Hackman, who's the head coach, don't get
caught watching the paint track course. Dennis, not Dennis Quaid,
but Dennis the knucklehead for you. Let me back up,
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this was a true story. The Indiana High School Basketball
Tournament is a renowned high school tournament, much like the
Minnesota State Hockey Tournament, etc. The Texas High School Football
Tournament So Tiny Miley just had the seven year anniversary
Tiny mile in high one hundred and sixty one students
beats Monthy Central against all odds to win the state championship. Impossible. Well,
(01:25:26):
you know in the movie it was Hickory High School,
Bobby Plump making the shot. Excellent movie. Barbara Hershey, the
intrepid reporter, Gene Hackman. You know, anytime Gene Hackman's in
a movie, it's going to elevate it. It holds up.
It's a fabulous movie, and it's a genuinely true underdog story.
They want to coach fire. The players are quitting and
they come from nowhere to win the championship. Finally, along
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those same lines, who doesn't know about the miracle and
Ice the United States team beating the Russians in nineteen
eighty to win the gold medal like Placid, against all odds.
I thought Kurt Russell did a great job playing legendary
coach Hugh or Herb Brooks, who was a legend in Minnesota,
put this group together. How he did it again, if
you're a sports fan, if you're a movie fan, true
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underdog story and how Herb Brooks coached that team so hard,
had a lot of great coach. He was trying to
make him better, because you guys are getting a little
worse every day right now. You're playing like the middle
of the next month. You got to see this movie
the dialogue, So bad News, Bears, Who's yours? And Miracle?
Are my three?
Speaker 31 (01:26:23):
Okay, then we'll go to Mark so my breeze three
start with the replacements Gene Hackman and Keanu Reeves just
because it's football, and you know they I think it
was scab football, but it was in the football game
and having to find some guys to replace the football players.
Next movie is Major League, Tom Berengerry, Charlie Sheen, Rene
(01:26:45):
Russo and the character really mays Hayes. He's just crazy stuff.
Speaker 11 (01:26:50):
Great movie.
Speaker 31 (01:26:51):
And then my third one for the movies is Cinderella
Man Russell Krug.
Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
And well that's your story. Yeah, that's a great that's
what Anny Jeremy Schapper wrote a book about him.
Speaker 31 (01:27:01):
Continue and just the just watching that movie and understanding
how Central Park in New York used to have basically
people living in it because at that time everybody was
like depression, very very poor and the little shanty houses
in the area where Central Park was. Just learning that,
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getting that understanding of the times where no jobs or anywhere,
everybody was scrambling and having to getting soup lines. It
were just very very difficult times. So that's my basic
three movies of Breeze, three replacements, Major League and then
Cinderella Man, Good Ones.
Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
And by the way, ever so quickly, you remember the
character Willie mays Hayes, which you just mentioned was played
by Wesley Snipes. There was a scene when they're having
a workout in spring training and they show it in
slow motion where Wesley Snipes was racing two other guys
and he blows right past them and they filmed it
in slow motion. It was a fagazy. The producers admitted afterwards,
was these slipes was slow. He actually couldn't beat those guys,
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so they had to jimmy rig up there.
Speaker 31 (01:28:05):
They had to teach him how to swing a bet
because he was he had no idea, so they had
to teach him just how to be, just how to
swing the bat.
Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Terrible swim looked like he was trying to kill a
snake in a phone booth. All right, continue on, all.
Speaker 31 (01:28:19):
Right, you chef, all right, So, uh you took a
couple of mine.
Speaker 9 (01:28:23):
First one was a miracle because uh not only because
of you know, American pride winning the gold medal when
no one expecting to, but because of the political ramifications
we had boycotted the Olympics. I believe it was a
nineteen eighty in Moscow, and nineteen eighty four was a
was a big time and we had an amateur Olympic
hockey team at the time, and the rules war, he
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couldn't have professional players in the Olympics back in the
nineteen eighties. Of course, Russia would get around that by
giving them non existent jobs in the government, while really
they were being played to pay hockey, so he had
professional players going up against college guys. To give you
an idea of the talent difference, the experience difference between
these two sides, along with the fact that it was
at the peak of the Cold War and everything that
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went along with that, it was just it was such
a great time for America, and the movie itself, I think,
really did a great job capturing all of that. Kurt
Russell an outstanding performance from beginning to end. I thought
it was an outstanding movie. The other one, I can't
believe Mark brought that one up. I thought no one
would Cinderella Man, just because of how it was in
the Great Depression, that what it meant in the personal
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life of Russell Crowe. He was an outstanding actor in
that movie, and just how difficult of a time it
was back in the in the Great Depression, and seeing
just kind of everyone ride ride that momentum forward with
that was really inspiring. And then I'm glad no one
brought it up because it's in the title of the movie.
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So I have to make it my number one, which
is Dodgeball, A true underdog story, a time wals probably
my all time favorites sports movie and really, yes, that's interating,
Go ahead continue.
Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
You know, Global Gym versus the Average Joe.
Speaker 9 (01:30:11):
What I love is Global Gym's is corporate behemoth and
Average Joe's is just you know, we're a kind of
a rundown gym. We don't even collect your membership dues.
But hey, if you feel kind of left out and
don't fit in, come on here and be yourself. And
I love the concept of that. And to save their
(01:30:31):
gym having to get the fifty thousand dollars they need
to save themselves from foreclosure and getting bought out by
Global Gym, they had to enter the dodgeball tournament. Of course,
Ben Stiller and Global Gym just despite them enter the
dodgeball tournament and hire the best players they can get,
and that ragtag group of guys from Average Joe's goes
to Vegas and wins the whole fifty thousand dollars and
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my favorite part of the end, everyone gets their girl.
Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
So that does have And for Vince Vaughn, that's not forget.
Vince Vaughn played a major part in that. Yes he did.
Stephen Root, who was Milton in Office Space, who didn't
get cake. He was in that movie. He was classic freakin'
William Shatner, Jason Bateman, Gary Cole. You talk about a
cast nucles are getting ripped, Tor in his patches, Aul,
and now he's a retired seven time Dodgeball All Star,
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coaches the average joes. You think I paid attention to
that movie. Yeah, Hanka's area too. I mean it's that
was a hilarious movie that that kind of laughed at itself,
you know what I mean. And you guys remember the
final scene when I think Ben Stiller's crushing Hagen Dozz.
He's all depressed because they lost, and he's like this
fitness king, but he's gonna end up gatting all that
(01:31:44):
were alight. Anybody have anything else to add? Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 31 (01:31:54):
My honorable mention would be Million Dollar Baby Clint Eastwood.
He'll also I should have thought about that. It's a
great one. And another one honorable mention, uh, The Natural
with Robert Redford and Going Close, And my last honorable
mention slap Shot with Paul Newman.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Oh yeah, that's become an epic, cult classic, epic cl classic.
The Handsome, the Handsome, the Handsome Brothers, those guys were
studs by the way, they were all They were both
midline hockey players. One of them actually had a cup
of coffee in the NHL and they we did a
radio thing with them back in the day. They had
the tinfoil on their hands and everything, and they were
they were there. Just just classic, just classic. I don't
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think they could make a movie like that now for
multiple reasons, and you really can't watch a movie on
TV because of the language. But still, I guess you'd
call it great. I guess you'd call it an underdog story.
Speaker 30 (01:32:46):
Anything else I had, I had Invincible and Glory Road
as my like two honorable mention. It's like Invincible with
Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 31 (01:32:56):
Sure, yeah, that was That was one of mine. And
then rode with.
Speaker 30 (01:33:00):
Josh Lucas that that high school basketball team or that
college basketball team in Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
I thought that was That was a.
Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Really good one for us. That chronicles the famous game
between Texas Western and nineteen sixteen Flather. All five starters
were black against all five starters who were why Don Haskins,
the head coach pat Riley.
Speaker 30 (01:33:19):
I believe that right, Yes, pat Riley was one of
the Kentucky players.
Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
He was one of the Kentucky players, and he also
had a quick cameo John Voyd. I thought was good. Yeah,
that one. You know, I don't know if it got
the critical acclaim. It didn't.
Speaker 23 (01:33:34):
It really didn't.
Speaker 30 (01:33:35):
And Josh Lucas was such an incredible actor in that movie.
Like that's one of my favorite Josh Lucas movies.
Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Yes, he plays the coach Don Haskins, who had the
guts to put that team together. So great job by everybody.
I really enjoyed this segment. It's a lot of fun.
There's no question that the intersection between movies, pop culture
and sports is there. It's always there, and I really
appreciate the crew. You go deep, Kevin, your point about
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the miracle and ice win for the United States. The
hostages in Iran had been taken and they were still captive,
and the country was looking for something to feel good about.
And I had Mike Ruzioni, who scored the game winning
goal against the Russians on my show, you know, many
many years later when I was in Detroit. What a humble,
(01:34:24):
great guy. And that's one that'll just never you know,
we'll never live it down. And I'm glad they made
it a movie, and it's been a couple movies about that.
So thanks to everybody for your well preparedness on the
segment and knowledge, and obviously we have a lot of
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lines will reopen. Jump in. I don't want anybody to
shut out. We had such a great amalgam and broad
based opinions. We had police officers call in outstanding. We
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had folks from all walks of life and every There's
one thing I believe every call had in common. Everybody
was utterly sincere in what they were saying. No one
was grand standing, no one was trying to, you know,
make false statements. They truly believe what they were saying,
and it very much shine through the call. Really appreciate
everybody's efforts in the Midnight Call Midnight Hour segment. So
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Right back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.
Because the Tyreek Hill subject matter had so much legs
and the emotional opinions and the difference of opinion, we
had police officers call, we had people from all walks
of life. We're going to continue eight seven, seven, nine
nine to six six three six nine, will take as
many as we humanly can until I sign off, Tony
(01:36:36):
and Miami. Good to hear from me. Tony, I had
a feeling you might call him tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Uh, I got through.
Speaker 23 (01:36:43):
I just wanted to let you know that the Cuban
culture down here at one of the officers earlier said,
I do agree, they kind of run their own program
down here, and it's not in line with the rest
of you know, cities in North America. That being said,
I would definitely say he didn't help himself at all.
(01:37:07):
I think if Tyreek was an intelligent man, and if
he wants to do twenty thirty over, he should invest
in a you know, fort Focus, Toyta Corolla. You shouldn't
be you should he pulls over. And I definitely believe
that the officer that called before that he probably was correct.
(01:37:27):
Maybe he was taking his time. Everyone's got to do
a was it? George Carlin said, the alpha male ordeal,
like you know, who's who's throwing around more meat. But
I would definitely say let them take their time and
you don't need to, you know, be I think he was.
They were baiting each other either way. I've been on
both sides of that. I've had not a race thing.
(01:37:47):
But I'm not black, but I have been. I've had
done pointed at me for doing nothing when I was
twenty one. I think it's more of a youth thing,
in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
I think it could be an attitude things. What's well,
I've had cops yelling me and listen. You know you
want to play Mickey the Dunce. You know you want
to you want to go back on a cop. Whatever
cranks your tractor, it ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna work. Yeah.
My dear mother spent thirty years in law enforcement. Yeah,
I know what they have to deal with. Man. And
the bottom line is, so anyway real quickly. I want
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to get to the other calls. But that did crack
me up. Even if you're driving a Toyota Corolla, if
you're going sixty to forty, you're probably gonna tract attention.
You're still on line. Tony, All right, Tony yeah here,
Oh go ahead, wrap it up. I want to get
these other calls, buddy.
Speaker 23 (01:38:31):
No, No, I would just I would just say I've
I've you know, twenty two years old, I got snark.
I had a lift with the cop similar to the
one that escalated it. We don't need those type of cops.
I'm not saying he needs to get fired. He needs to, like,
you know, smoke a joint and you know, go relax
in the corner for cold.
Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Compress, maybe some more milk and soft music.
Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Yeah all right, yeah, leave it at that and go
about the way.
Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Always good Tony. Appreciate Tony's irregular and appreciate Robin Orlando back,
Rob Wilkman.
Speaker 11 (01:39:03):
Hey, Ben, good weekend to you.
Speaker 16 (01:39:05):
Listen, thank you.
Speaker 26 (01:39:06):
This is going to be the unpopular call.
Speaker 16 (01:39:08):
But at the end of the day, cop pulls you over,
doesn't matter who you are, it's just simple car off, both.
Speaker 22 (01:39:15):
Thrown windows down, hands on the steering wheel.
Speaker 11 (01:39:18):
Keys if you're.
Speaker 16 (01:39:19):
Using Keith, put them on there.
Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
And I said that in the beginning. So when you
saw this incident, what were your observations.
Speaker 22 (01:39:26):
Well, so specifically, he was speeding well before he got
to the stadium area, so you had cops chasing him
into the stadium area.
Speaker 11 (01:39:35):
So they may not have known exactly who he was.
Speaker 22 (01:39:38):
Secondly, he's gotten massively illegal dark tent on the windows
and he was refusing to.
Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
Roll the windows down completely.
Speaker 17 (01:39:47):
That cop, that's a stressful job.
Speaker 26 (01:39:49):
Man, cops.
Speaker 32 (01:39:50):
I'm not a cop, as a matter of fact, I'm
a committed selling But at the end of the day,
you know what cops.
Speaker 22 (01:39:56):
Will tell you, domestic violence calls and having stops, so
their most.
Speaker 32 (01:40:01):
Dangerous situations because of the unknown.
Speaker 17 (01:40:04):
Roll your window.
Speaker 22 (01:40:05):
Down, do the right thing, show the copy appropriate respect
instead of everybody getting you know, their backup, and let's
you know, you know, have to have the you know,
the the mad dog mentality. And I heard a couple
of callers and I don't discount driving while black, but
at the end of the day, if you know that's
a thing, why are you not just complying, doing the
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right thing, show the officer of the right amount of
respect and move on. Instead, we want to escalate, you know,
to a level to where everybody's got to show them
machismo and then move on from there.
Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
All right, thanks so much, ro I appreciate it. Rick
in Colorado Springs, you're up.
Speaker 26 (01:40:43):
Next, Hi, Rick, I just wanted to make a comment.
I've been in the people business for a long time.
I met a thanous athlete us Ago at a stadium
and I was all banding out. I watched a video.
It was like Tye quoes. Just calm down, you know, Okay,
you're famous, whatever, whatever, Just do what the cop tells
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you to do and it would have been over with.
Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
So basically your your takeaway was Tyreek didn't comply and
it just get it from there.
Speaker 23 (01:41:12):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Is that fair? Rick? All right? But were we had
the fall Lenester blowing up. I gotta get to everybody.
If I'm short with you, folks, work with me. I
don't want anybody to shut out. I will tell you that.
Kevin Knight, Dawn and Tyler up next, But first we
got to go to a guy, Kevin Wire for a
quick update.
Speaker 9 (01:41:28):
Yeah, Bernie, we have several games in Major League Baseball
on Friday night impacting the Pennant Races and the Detroit Tigers,
believe it or not, just two and a half games
out of a playoff spot. The trail Minnesota by two
and a half games. That's after they beat the Baltimore
Orioles one nothing. Kerrie Carpenter a solo home run to
give Detroit the victory, and they were able to take
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advantage of the fact that the Twins lost to the
Reds eight to four. Guardians also losing to the Race
three one so their lead in the AL Central still
sits at three games over the Kansas City Royals. Kansas
City gain the victory against the Pirates eight to three,
with the Orioles losing. The Yankees ahead in the AL
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East by three games, they will pick up a game
by getting a win against the Red Sox five to four,
Braves over the Dodgers six to two. Mets get the
win against the Phillies eleven to three. That NL Wildcard
now has the Braves ahead. We're trailing the New York
Mets by one game. And in college football, we had
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two games in action on Friday night, Kansas State Arizona
a battle of Wildcats, and I have to keep reminding
myself this is a Big Twelve conference matchup was the
first conference game four Arizona since they joined the Big
Twelve this season in Kansas State, though, giving him a
rude welcome a thirty one to seventh victory for fourteenth
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rank Kansas State, but there wasn't upset UNLV and Kansas
Viva Las Vegas over in Kansas City as the Rebels
take down the Jayhawks twenty three to one. Is Kylin
James got himself a touchdown a one yard touchdown at
the goal line, hard fought run in with less than
two minutes ago to give the Rebels the victory.
Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Back to you, Bernie, all right, thanks chef, We'll catch
you Saturday night. We'll have a lot of fun. Back
out to the phones of Kevin in Texas. Thanks for
hanging on.
Speaker 24 (01:43:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:43:17):
I have an interesting taken on this situation. I've been
pulled over by some cops and had a cop that
wasn't always in the in the right. I think maybe
the situation what you can take from it is, even
the cop isn't in the right, you need to keep
your calm.
Speaker 7 (01:43:30):
Even maybe you.
Speaker 24 (01:43:31):
Don't have to have respect for the cop and what
he's doing.
Speaker 8 (01:43:34):
But I think maybe we need to respect the situation.
But even if you see that the cop is doing
something wrong or illegal, if you pop off and get
all emotional or get mad, they could throw you in jail.
You maybe you'll be able to take them to court
if they're doing something wrong. But I think it's about
how you hand them the situation and not necessarily what
they're doing. But even if they're doing something wrong, So
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if they give you a ticket or something, they any
of these situations that. I think keeping your calm.
Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Is the US thing to do. Yeah, Kevin, I appreciate
your call. Man, I just got so many to get to.
And look, the bottom line is class never goes out
of style. Respect never goes out of style. You get
back what you project. You want to talk smack to
a cop. Good luck, uh night in Indiana, good evening,
good morning.
Speaker 32 (01:44:21):
Hey yeah, hey Bernie, I just wanted to say about
the escalation. Out of the four cops that you saw
in the video, it was the second cop who escalated.
Not only did he not de escalate, but he actually
escalated the second cop.
Speaker 11 (01:44:40):
And then I didn't notice that this.
Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
And then you notice that the.
Speaker 32 (01:44:44):
Second cop and the guy who got the who got
the ticket, not the not Campbell who got handcuffed also,
but the other guy who got the ticket. If you
notice the second cop and that one was trying to
tell them just just go ahead and drive off, man,
move your car. But then the first cop didn't let
the second cop de escalate that he said, no, you're
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dealing with me.
Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Now you're getting a ticket.
Speaker 32 (01:45:07):
So it's out of the four cops, only seeing one
try to de escalate. And I know they get de
escalation training. So I mean they need to do what
they train and their train on de escalation cop so
the professional they needed to de escalate, and so they
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need to use this video for every copy.
Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Hey, night over, how to deescalate an excellent call. You
check a lot of good boxes, and you would hope
the police officer would revert to his training. You just
never know when you're dealing with human beings. Man who
knows who pissed in his corn flakes that day? You
just don't know. And that doesn't give them the excuse
to escalate, but escalate, de escalate respect now, respect again,
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A series of great calls down and to call me.
Speaker 33 (01:45:55):
You're up next, Hey, Bernie next, sticking my call. So
before before I talked about Tyrek, I just want to
put one movie out there. It's called Greater, The Brian
Burlsworth Story of Market.
Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Oh that that that movie will slay. Can I just
say one thing? Brian Burlsworth played for Arkansas and I
saw his last game, uh and the I would send
to the Orange Bowl against Michigan in nineteen ninety nine
and covered that game, and he looked exactly like Drew
Carrey and everybody in the media was is that Drew
carry Oh man, that you just you just pierced my
heart with that movie. All right, real quickly, I got
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to get to these calls.
Speaker 34 (01:46:28):
Okay, So Tyreek Hill, So when I was a young
su and I'm sixty five, so I've been around a bit.
Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (01:46:33):
If I got.
Speaker 34 (01:46:34):
Trouble of the law, after my dad got done pummeling
me for whatever reason he needed.
Speaker 17 (01:46:38):
To do that, Uh, he would always pull me aside
his son.
Speaker 34 (01:46:42):
If you're gonna mess with the law, you gotta think
about it this way.
Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
Yeah, that what's up?
Speaker 18 (01:46:46):
He goes.
Speaker 17 (01:46:47):
You have to imagine your mother.
Speaker 34 (01:46:49):
Or your grandmother watching you when you're talking to them
or disrespecting or doing anything. And would you let what
would you let them see you do that?
Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
And as Tyreek Hill, okay, would you.
Speaker 34 (01:46:59):
Her mother or your grandmother do you act the way
you acted with the policeman? And I don't think you wouldn't.
I think they probably grub him by his ears and
drag him into the room.
Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
All right, don appreciate the calling and good movie reference
by the way, Tyler and Phoenix, thanks for hanging on.
You're up next, Tyler. I'm doing well, Tyler, go ahead.
Speaker 22 (01:47:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
I mean, obviously things that could have been done differently
on both sides in regards to the traffic stop and Tyreek.
But I think what really has kind of resonated with
me on this is how Tyreek has handled it. I've
gained a lot of respect for him. He didn't run
right to racism. He didn't run to a lot of stuff.
He went right to try and to find common ground,
how we can work together, what I did differently, what
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I could have done differently, And he took responsibility.
Speaker 11 (01:47:45):
He talked to the.
Speaker 4 (01:47:45):
Point that he has young fans, he had kids fans,
and in that moment he didn't set the best example
for them, and he needs to conduct himself differently. And
for me, like, I think that actually shows a lot
about his character and gained a lot of back.
Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
All right, fair enough, so from your viewpoint, and I
thank you for checking in, Tyler. From you point your viewpoint,
it appeared that in his own right, in his own way,
Tyreek tried to be congenial. He wanted to get the
ticket and get to work, and at the end of
the day, just the optics weren't good and the narrative
wasn't good. But in his own way. His intentions were
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not to escalate. Okay, I think you're seeing into that
something that may very well be true. Jerome in South Carolina, Man,
where the hell you been? Dude? Where the hell you been? Jerome?
Speaker 24 (01:48:32):
Hey, as whold the generations people, we have to get
our sleep, you know, we can't be luck you're young
with a snappers party all night long, you know, and
hang out in the middle of the night and talk
to people and then go have a party and all
that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
We gotta get a night brass.
Speaker 24 (01:48:49):
Okay, we're not young as we used to be.
Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
Oh, come on, man, I ain't here. I ain't trying
to hear that, Jerome. Come on, no, no, no, no, no,
all right, I want to hear what you got to
say about Terry. I want I ain't trying to hear that, Jerome.
Speaker 24 (01:48:59):
Go look, he's kind of cocky anyway. So I'm knock
surprise that got to this point with the backflips and
the and the showing off and all that. Hey, it's
probably happened. He went against something he couldn't he couldn't
deal with, all right.
Speaker 27 (01:49:15):
He couldn't draw his way.
Speaker 24 (01:49:17):
Around and get his way, and so he acted like
a peture of the load towel, and the cops didn't
like it, so say, we're gonna put you in a
low time out. Okay, and I'm not defending police conduct
a long time but hey, I'm kind of on their
time because he's kind of cocky. But I got another story.
What about what's going on at the University of Georgia.
Speaker 17 (01:49:37):
Man, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
I can't do that right now. Jerome, listen, I got
to get to these callers to stay in the traffic stock.
Can you call back next week? I just got a
standpoint to that man. Man, anything else on on Tyreek, No, he's.
Speaker 24 (01:49:50):
Kind of cocky. Yell lot surprise.
Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
I got to this point all right, Hey, Jern, I
appreciate you. Man, damn it. If you don't call next week,
we're calling you. Okay. Actually, I'm gonna come to your house. Man,
I'm gonna wake your ass up. Joe, my love. When
you call Bill Lancaster, you gotta bud you're up.
Speaker 11 (01:50:07):
Hey, Bernie, how's John?
Speaker 20 (01:50:09):
This is just this is just standard operating procedure from Blacks.
They're taught from birth, resist, resist, resist arrests to make
a hard arrest than super brutality, standard operating procedure, just
what to expect.
Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
That's what they do.
Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
Bill, Enjoy the rest of your evening. Arrest easy, my friend.
I never would recommend anybody speaking generalities, but when I listen,
I don't put fielders on calls. I don't dictate to
you what to say. I don't dictate what your opinion
should be. I would just say this. We are trying
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to create content, be a keen observer, contents king package
it in a way that people enjoy listening to the show.
And that is why you know. Everybody gets through. Everybody
gets through. We don't. We typically don't always agree, and
perhaps the most boring conversations are when everybody does agree
and we don't have that. I want to tip my
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cap to everybody who waited online, everybody who called in.
I can't take how much I appreciate it. I wasn't
going to do a segment like this. Ethan Miller, one
of my former producers, talked me into it, and I
am so appreciative to hear everybody's opinion, the diversity, the
thoughtfulness life experiences. The midnight hour is here to stay.
(01:51:33):
And we'll have a couple of great topics for you
next Friday night at midnight Pacific. One thing coming up.
I gotta wrap up the show. Unfortunately, we are going
to be turning it over to Antie Argano, my man.
Not Unfortunately that didn't come out right. We'll be turning
it over to Till a couple of studs, Anthony and
Arnie here in about twenty minutes. But as we wrap
(01:51:54):
up the show, I want to share a thought I
can get to last week that I think everybody can
agree with. And I'm talking about Shoho Tommy. Let me
give you reason number forty seven why what he's doing
this year is so unusual. And I guarantee it you
have not heard this angle. I'm Bernie Fraddle. Were comedy
line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tarret dot
Com Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie
(01:52:14):
Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we are
wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show, come to
you live from the tarret dot Com studios here in
Las Vegas. Before I go any further tonight, I want
to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles. They've
been with me since eleven PM. Pacific Breed Mark and
(01:52:37):
Kevin weirartt appreciate the teamwork, appreciate all the professionalism and
efforts in keeping the show rolling right along. I will
be back on these air waves Saturday night at eleven
pm Pacific. We'll have a day of college football to
talk about, most notably the Colorado versus Colorado State game,
(01:52:59):
but there's some other games on the docket as well,
some key rivalries, and we will also begin to heavily
break down the NFL. Sunday. The Physic five will be back.
As you know, we'll have Mark Medina at midnight for
a little midnight magic and plenty of analysis. I've got
some couple of good best bets. I was on with
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Jason McIntyre Thursday on his Straight Fire podcast, and I
gave two or three of my best bets Sunday, and
I'll break down why, and I'll break down which sides
I like, and we'll get to all of that. Of course,
another rising edition Saturday night of what kind of brand
new fool are You? And what my Name? And all
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the usual hijinks that you come to know and love.
By the way, next Friday night, September twenty, you know,
Friday the thirteenth. How did that get past us? It
was Friday the thirteenth. Of course that probably was not
an underdog movie, but it was a movie. Freddy Krueger,
Nice to see you. Next week is Friday the twentieth.
(01:54:01):
Ryan Berschinger is going to join us. He's going to
give us the latest on the Dodgers, as we're a
couple weeks away from heading into the playoffs, and when
you spend a billion dollars, you have expectations. So this
is going to be a very I think, exciting, contentious
playoff tournament in October that I do think is very
wide open. One of the reasons that Dodgers have had
so much success this year is due to the exploits
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of Shoheo Tani, who is knocking on the door being
the first fifty to fifty player in baseball history, meeting
steal fifty bases and hit fifty home runs. Never been done. Okay,
I believe show hayes on forty eight stolen bases and
forty seven home runs somewhere along those lines. So he's
knocking on the door and it appears fairly well inevitable
(01:54:45):
he's going to get it. So you can talk about
the numbers, you can talk about the sensational performance that
shoheo Tani has displayed this year, worth every penny they
invested in him. He's a brand, He's a incredible player.
But this is what I wanted to This is what
I wanted to emphasize as reason number seventy eight as
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to why showey Antani's been so impactful this year. He's
having an epic season. Wait for it, after getting the bag,
do you realize how unusual it is what shohe Otani
is doing. Typically, the first year after a player gets paid,
it's not necessarily an epic year. Look what happened to
(01:55:33):
Aaron Judge last year, first year after his Mega deal,
his batting average dropped forty four points from the year before. Yeah,
he's making up four this year, but the year after
dropped forty four points. Bryce Harper got the bag back
in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. He did not exceed expectations
until his third season, finally won MVP, but not the
(01:55:55):
next season even well, even Mookie bets now. He got
his bag the year for the pandemic year, which was
a sixty game season, and he did pretty well that
season in a short season, but the first full season
after Muki got paid, he only hit two sixty four,
which is a career low. Probably don't remember this, but
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Albert Poolhols more than a decade ago, signed with the
Angels for a fortune, but he dropped off massively, completely
off a cliff after getting paid. I don't know if
he ever really truly recovered. Garrett Cole got paid big
five years ago, did not exceed the expectations until his
fourth season, until after he won the Cy Young Award.
(01:56:36):
Jacob de Gram the last time he was healthy was
twenty nineteen. He said, three injury riddled seasons with the Mets,
and it's continued with Texas. He got paid big. Think
about show Hick gets the bag and the very next season.
I'm listing a group of guys that are getting Hall
of Fame votes, maybe be in the Hall of Fame,
and none of them did what Shoheatani is doing this year.
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Even Max sure whose deal with Washington is considered to
be worth it, he had the most losses in his
career of a season in the first season following the
year he got paid. Now, sometimes shortstops get paid because
we have more offensively minded shortstops now in baseball, maybe
that we've ever had. Corey Seeger, a guy that I
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think is brilliant. The year after he got the bag,
lowest batting averages of his career hit two forty five.
Fernando Tatist Junior the year after he got paid, got
busted for doping, and when he returned he lost his
starting job at shortstop. Francisco Lindor the year after he
got paid, lowest batting average of his career hit two
thirty even Trey Turner the year after he got the
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bag only hit two sixty six. Xander Bogart's Hey, we
didn't hear from Poppy tonight? Probably should have asked about this.
The second Padre megadeal shortstopped to no longer play shortstop
for San Diego. His first season with San Diego was
his worst and the last six years. They ended up
moving him to second base after he got the bag.
Final Manny Machado, also signed as a shortstop, played part
(01:58:03):
of shortstop his first season with San Diego in twenty nineteen.
After getting the bag. Lowes ops since twenty twenty one, then, oh,
by the way, he lost his job to Fernando Datis,
who also lost his job to doping. If you followed
all that, you're better than me. Keep following Shohio, Tommy,
He's worth the price of admission.
Speaker 5 (01:58:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
Wilson's worth the president admission. My man Honie Spaniard, he's
in tonight with my other man, Anthony Gargano, the Fellas.
You don't want to miss it. Should be a lot
of fun. I'll be back on these airwaves Saturday night
at eleven pm. Don't miss it, or your first aligned
for a frontal botomy. That's gonna do it. Keep it Locke,
Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,